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103 responses to "High school fashions, 1969"
- Anonymous said...May 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM
- Eric said...May 11, 2012 at 5:33 AM
- bermsherm said...May 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM
- Anonymous said...May 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Long before Aniston. You lads will never know the days of mini skirts and tube tops. What the fuck happened?
- Anonymous said...May 11, 2012 at 11:27 AM
- Anonymous said...May 12, 2012 at 8:23 AM
- Anonymous said...May 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM
I graduated in 1965 with 265 in the class. The fat kids could be counted on one hand. These pix reveal a lot about how different things are now.
- Nissan Debris said...May 12, 2012 at 5:33 PM
my generation went from (5th grade) woodstock to (college)van halen / sex pistols. revolution no more, kids love their luxuries and are stunted.
- Anonymous said...May 13, 2012 at 1:18 AM
- Anonymous said...May 13, 2012 at 3:53 PM
- Anonymous said...May 13, 2012 at 6:01 PM
- Anonymous said...May 21, 2012 at 7:25 PM
I wonder where these were taken. Seems like shades of Woodstock. Can't believe all the girls then were so pretty and long haired and thin. Not realistic. Where are those who looked like Mama Cass?
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM
I don't doubt that the relative number of overweight kids was lower in 1969, but 1) This is a fashion spread--I am absolutely sure they photographed the best looking kids. 2) They are high school girls! Ask the average 35 year old woman if she was skinnier now or in high school. You can hardly compare a fashion spread of high school girls to the average American population. Hey, everyone was white in 1969 apparently, too! (Oh and skinny does not equal "fit." How much exercise do you think high school girls got in 1969 before the dawn of serious women's sports? How many of them ever went for a run?)
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
- Sixty Grit said...February 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Four words - high fructose corn syrup.
That stuff messes up one's insulin regulation and that, I am willing to bet, more than any other factor has led to the blimps we see waddling around now.
- Frenchy said...February 24, 2013 at 11:40 AM
- Frenchy said...February 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM
- Parking Lot Bozo said...February 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM
- RS said...February 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Lived this. It really looked like this on a very good day.
On a bad day, it was double-knit polyester.
Note that we CARRIED our books. No back packs.
- kurt9 said...February 24, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Yes, obesity was much less common among the young then than now. However, I think the HS classes of the late 70's and 80's were much more attractive than 1969. I think "peak beauty", among the young, occurred in the U.S. during the 1980's.
Rather than everyone being fat compared to yesteryear, it is more accurate to say that there is much more of a bifurcation today compared to 30-40 years ago in terms of attractiveness. The people who spend time in the gym and take care of themselves look FAR, FAR better today, at all ages, than anyone did in 1969. However, this is a minority. The rest of the populace generally is less attractive than they would have been in 1969, especially the youth.
- Moneyrunner said...February 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM
- Stepper said...February 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM
re no fat kids: Yes, they did exist. I read once that the big media photographers of the day only photographed the most attractive kids to make the counter culture look more appealing.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM
I think it's cute you guys think life printed pictures of everyone rather than just the attractive people.
- egoist said...February 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM
- A much-changed guy said...February 24, 2013 at 12:19 PM
The are not the fashions of trim high schoolers of 1969.
These are the fashions of trim female high schoolers of 1969.
It brings back familiar, if importunate, feelings from the era.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Locale? My money's on California, although there are probably several high school campuses here, perhaps some in other states.
It's clear Life's photogs were hunting for good-looking girls.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Most people were not over weight back then, go back and look at the movies, everybody is skinny and that is the way it was. Very few people had a weight problem. I still have a pair of my giant bell-bottoms saved in a drawer and my poncho is still usable. I do believe a couple of my crocheted vests are also around. Fast food and non home cooking have destroyed the American body. My hair was long and straight just like in the picture and yes I'm a grandmother now just like another commenter mentioned. Young women didn't treat their hair so brutally with all the dyes like now so hair was pretty not neon like so many today.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM
By 1968, Twiggy and other anorexic models were being imposed as the ideal of beauty and young girls and women started on the road to self doubt over not conforming to what essentially was the body shape of a male drag queen. During 1969, the left started attacking natural foods high in important nutrients as being unhealthy, like milk, potatoes, bananas, strawberries, sweet potatoes, and they promoted what we now know is not only fattening, but as having contributed to the rise in heart disease, margarine and so called 'vegetable' shortening. That is what contributed to the problems of obesity, as well as more fast, convenience foods being consumed because more mothers are out there working instead of having time to prepare healthy meals.
The left have also contributed to the high cost of food, by firstly demanding the highly processed food industry, the factory farms (birthed by the left's destruction of the family farmer, the subsidization of massive takeover combines by democrat contributors, and worked by illegal aliens. The left attacked home baked bread in the 30s and 40s as lacking nutrients, and promoted the factory baked, over processed, sliced bread we're all used to now, and these days, the left praise themselves for baking and selling overly expensive "artisan bread", "artisan cheese" and "organic beef & chicken" that they regulated and pressured family farms from producing during the last century.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Do you really think people are not filtering out the pictures of fat people when deciding which pictures to keep and which to publish? I don't.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 12:40 PM
HFCS was rapidly introduced to many processed foods and soft drinks in the U.S. from about 1975 to 1985.
- SukieTawdry said...February 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM
I graduated in 1964, before the hippies made their fashion statements (and may we never go back there). This to me is post-college southern California. Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll--those were the days.
Other commenters are right: in my growing up years, almost no one was fat. And we all ate copious amounts of red meat, saturated fats (our mothers actually used lard--every kitchen had a big can of Crisco in it) and lots and lots of carbohydrates. What was different about that era? Balanced, well-prepared meals eaten with the family; few fast food outlets; far fewer options in junk food; very little in the way of prepared foods.
But the biggest difference between then and now: we didn't sit on our asses all day in front of a computer screen. When we were kids, we were always outside riding bikes, playing games, running, walking, skating, always active. And although the activities changed, we continued our active lifestyles as teenagers. And we worked mowing lawns, raking leaves, washing cars and running around after the little kids for whom we babysat. The couch potatoes among us were rare and generally overweight and, believe me, nobody back then wanted to be overweight.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Not realistic? C'mon! I was in high school from '82-'86, and there were almost no fat kids then, either.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM
We didn't have the degree of junk food then that we have today. I went to Michigan State (class of '71)and McDonalds had one restaurant on Grand River Ave. It was popular, but most kids ate in the dorm, and as I remember the food was pretty healthy compared to today.
Also we didn't have computers, anybody else remember sliderules? Today kids just veg in front of screens...as I'm doing now.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM
I graduated from high school in 1966. We had some fat kids, but probably fewer than today. These photos appear to be of models with perhaps normal folks in the background. Or maybe my school just had fewer attractive people.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM
I think it's kind of silly to draw conclusions about the general public based on some pix that appeared in a magazine. Life mag was just not going to show pictures of the fat and ugly boys and girls, not in 1969 and not today.
- Bookdoc said...February 24, 2013 at 1:17 PM
If you recall, we could smoke back then. The start of the obesity problem coincides with the stamping out of cigarette smoking. Interesting...
- Kimberly said...February 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM
During the 80's (my teenage years), the 60's/70's looks seemed so ugly and dated. However, looking back on it now, there are a lot more classic, simple, and lovely fashion and beauty elements (long straight hair, miniskirts, eyeliner, flared pants, simple tee shirts, tights, maxidresses) from that time period than from the Decade of Excess. I'd wear those red velvet flared pants with a white tee before I'd wear anything neon, jellied, or acid-washed.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Odd. I can only remember one guy who was really fat back then (high school) and he was a terrific athlete, 2nd gen Greek, as I recall. A friend of mine was 10-15 pounds fat (And that was considered 'fatty' then.) but his mom was an excellent cook -- but his sisters were Twiggy skinny!? (for the younger set: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiggy) This was Beltway-Washington, D.C.. Almost everyone was from someplace else (with about 5% native.)
- Koblog said...February 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM
"They look fit..."
I graduated in 1970. At 6 feet, I weighed around 150 lbs. Like most of us, I walked or rode my bike the two miles to and from school or most anywhere else I wanted to go, as I had done since elementary school.
You want a fat kid? Drive the little princes and princesses everywhere.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 2:02 PM
This isn't what you would call a random sample. If you conclude that everyone is in shape based on these photos, you must also conclude that only about 8% of students in 1969 were male. The photographer just may have had a bias in the subjects he or she chose to shoot--like pretty girls.
- Roadkill said...February 24, 2013 at 2:04 PM
- CJ said...February 24, 2013 at 2:14 PM
I graduated high school in Canada in 1970. These pictures bring back a lot of memories, for sure. They do seem to be taken in a relatively affluent area where people could afford fashions more than most of my calssmates, but certainly a lot of the period "looks" are there, including things like flared pants that many would prefer to forget. Some of these pictures are taken away from school; most schools then did not allow girls to wear pants or anyone to wear shorts. As regards the obesity situation ... my high school was a small town/rural district school with 1,500 students. There were a few pudgy people, but the number of actual fat kids was no more than eight or nine, tops. Yes, really. And they weren't all that fat by today's standards -- the heaviest student in school was about 280 pounds, and he was a big 6'3" guy. The next one was about 250. No girl weighed any more than about 200 pounds, so we literally didn't have a Mama Cass.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 2:25 PM
I think the 7th photo down (red bell bottoms) was taken at Alcee Fortier High School in New Orleans.
- phytorx said...February 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 2:33 PM
In my 1969 HS graduating class of nearly 600, there were 2 fat girls and 3 fat boys. They weren't disparaged - they were well liked and had many friends but they were a rarity. WTF happened?
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 2:42 PM
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- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 3:02 PM
- Pratt Hobbies said...February 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM
first what is the goal of the photographer? It looks to me like he got a plum assignment to go shoot pictures of college students. Maybe a what are the kids wearing today thing. I've done those in the past. So is he going to take pictures of fat ugly people. NO that's not what his editor is going to want. Since even today the number of guys wearing anything interesting is small compared to women, he is going to shoot typical (some of the pictures could have been shot today)co-ed and those dressed in a more fashionable/creative way.
That said I work in company with a fair amount of young people working the call center and customer service lines. I do see more young women who are about 20-30lbs heavier then these pictures or that I can recall from my highschool/college years.
- Christian LeBlanc said...February 24, 2013 at 3:42 PM
I was born in 1957. Before 1980 or so I don't remember there being many overweight people, and virtually nobody who was morbidly obese.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 3:53 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 3:58 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM
- Unknown said...February 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 4:27 PM
momma cass was fat. from the mommas and the poppas. this is a photoshoot for life magazine. only beautiful people need apply.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Wasn't that about the time high fructose corn syrup was introduced into America's diet? Coincidence? I think not.
- sd2 said...February 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM
Wow I love those colored stockings in that last pic. Very nice. My sister could have been one of those girls. I remember her and her friends. Always nice and pretty and very educated. I miss those days. What happened? Why are girls so big these days? It's not at all appealing or sexy. European women still look like this and take care of themselves well.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM
- JAL said...February 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM
"Can't believe all the girls then were so pretty and long haired and thin."
Graduated from HS in 63 --- we had 3 kids in my class of 154 who might be considered obese today, probably not more than a 10 - 12, if that, in the whole school of 900. 2 - 3 teachers that I can recall. As for college (63-67) -- I cannot remember a single "obese" person. And we had no intercollegiate or even intramural sports.
Interesting. And the clothes were relatively modest -- how about that.
- Floyd Alsbach said...February 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 5:04 PM
I graduated in 1971 from a school with around 1200 students. I can only remember 4 or 5 that we thought were fat. We didn't eat many processed foods or McDonalds/Burger King burgers. Our mothers cooked fresh meats and vegetables they purchased at the grocery store. Most of my male classmates had part-time jobs after school. We didn't play video games, we played outside. Our play involved running, horseplay, jumping and other physically active endeavors.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 5:14 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 5:21 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Even in the 80s no one was fat. There was one fat kid in my graduating class. Just one. The funny this is that all the clothing sizes have changed. Now a size 0 or 2 is about what a size 6 or 7 was back then. Almost every female student in my nephews' high school class is at least 10 to 20 pounds over weight. There are maybe a handful of thin girls in his class. That's it! Almost all the girls are chubby and doughy.
- jaed said...February 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM
These were taken and selected for the purpose of going into Life Magazine. They were selected, in other words, for the prettiness of the subjects. (This being before the days of the obesity panic, the editors weren't trying to find headless fat subjects in order to freak readers out.)
Or do you think everyone had beautiful hair back then too? Not a bad hair day in the bunch. Is that because "in 1969, no body had frizzy hair" too?
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Mama Cass was an outlier then. Not so much now. But remember guys, it's genetics, not behavior, that makes a person fat!
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 6:16 PM
OK, I was a High School Freshman in 1969. This is EXACTLY as I remember it. The chicks actually WERE thin and even the UGLY ones were built damned nice. Fat chicks were few and far between and not as fat as the average cow is today. Life was FUN and we didn't eff around with Political Correctness or any of that stuff. WE HAD FUN. And the girls were effen beautiful. Actually feminine with curves. The girls liked the boys and vice verse and there was no misandry. The music was 100 times better than the rap crap today. The cars were incredibly cool. Really, American Society peaked in 1968, then the Communists like John Kerry and Jane Fonda ruined everything with their mindless Anti-Americanism. If kids today ever get a hint of what it was like for us, they're gonna be SO pissed off.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 6:17 PM
Why would they be fat? This is the generation (primarily the women) who STARTED the obesity epidemic. Shoving tons of Borlaug's untested hybrid wheat, fried starch products, and gallons of sugar drinks into their and their children's stomachs largely so that meals were efficient enough that they can still feel good about having jobs that they can pretend produce, rather than encumber, value. Then falling entirely for the "food pyramid" rather than their own training, history, experience and judgment when they find themselves getting a wee bit pudgy, then falling in line behind Susan Powter and the simplistic calorie math to shove still more unbuffered carbs into the mouths of those they were supposed to care for and nurture, many eventually having children in later years who were already well along on the insulin resistance process in utero(!), initiating a cascade that we will never escape from until this "fit and alert" generation is silenced.
Yet for now they still fill jobs as journalists, bureaucrats, health care regulators, and tax-funded researchers telling us how it's our fault, in our laziness and gluttony, that we're obese, arguably in an effort not to acknowledge their culpability.
I hope it was worth it.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 6:19 PM
- Dana said...February 24, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Oh, heck. I remember those days. Great days for girls, not so good for boys (the war was going on, remember). Girls were pretty in those days. Thank you feminists, leftists, and our shitty popular culture for making our girls ugly. Remember the old adage - our men our brave and our women are beautiful? What in the world do the leftist think this is all going. Now, our boys are mostly cowards or bullies (except those few still fighting in the Middle East), and our women are gross! As one woman, all I can do stay trim, look nice, without tattoos or piercings. I try to associate with those lone brave men we still produce.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 6:35 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 7:14 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM
In the 1960s, Life Magazine did a "photo essay" of "youth culture" (maybe calling them 'teenagers' was a little too 1950s). There was one of those temporary big deals in the press when it was revealed it was just this year's fashions from the nation's bigger brands at the time. There are no fat people in that picture. No one has acne. No one really seems to have glasses. It's just well disguised advertising from another era. If there was any accompanying text it was probably nothing but filler and disguised ads. "The youth of today really think it's hip and groovy to listen to all the latest hit singles like The Archie's 'Sugar Sugar' on their RCA transistor radios." All of the ads that popped up at the top of this page for me have words like "belly fat" and "diabetes." Congratulations, someone in an office somewhere has decided that they aren't rich enough and that people- including you- aren't hating themselves enough to be easily suckered into buying their diet plans, clothes, makeup and acne cream. So put a few photos as some sort of masturbatory false nostalgia for the baby boomers out there in the crowd and let's hope that someone clicks on any of the ads at the top of the page so they can feel horrible about themselves. Advertisers have always been trying to get under your skin one way or another. The best time to advertise to people is when they think they aren't being advertised to. If you want to get into the nuts and bolts of this there is such a thing as media psychology. Look it up. If these scans from an older magazine made you feel ugly or inadequate in any way, congratulations, the advertisers of the world have got you by the short ones.
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 10:09 PM
High school? Don't think so. These are all Southern California college scenes. High school dress codes in the sixties didn't allow any of this. And nobody at my high school looked anywhere near this good...
- Anonymous said...February 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Sixties' high school? No Way! In the sixties', we ran from class to class. We weren't allowed outside the school. Never mind sitting on the grass. Never mind having time to sit on the grass. It was risky for a girl to wear fishnet stockings. Never mind any of this stuff. Mini skirts? Multiple long necklaces? Or that Indian look with the arm and leg things? Fugeddiboutit!
- Radish said...February 25, 2013 at 4:52 AM
Of course none of them are obese...the magazines only published photos of attractive women. Derp.
And most of those girls wearing shorts would be derided by 21st century entertainment media for being "fat" because they're built like women, not like teenage boys with fake breasts.
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 5:56 AM
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 6:40 AM
Corn makes us fat! Sodas had real cane sugar back then. Now everthing has high fructose corn surup. Also we now feed ground up corn to our live stock for that extra fatty flavor.
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 7:16 AM
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Possible reasons for no fat kids: mothers stayed home in those days and cooked. No fast food 2-3 times a day for kids! Also, free food (via food stamps) was not so prevalent.
Look at Hoop Dreams, made in 1980. Nobody was fat in the inner city either. The gubmint had not taken over the family yet.
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 8:17 AM
- Alan said...February 25, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Pretty rich neighborhood there.
And what's with all the racists here complaining that there aren't enough Negroes? Nobody's counting but you, ya bigots.
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM
apparently 1969 was also barren of blacks, Latinos and Asians. oh surprise surprise theres a photo of some pretty, rich, white kids.
- frankly said...February 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Graduated in 1970. The winter of my Senior year it was bitterly cold in early January. Several girls came to school in slacks. They were sent home by the principal for "inappropriate dress". The next day it was equally cold so several girls worn what were then called 'granny' dresses, floor length - you got it! they were sent home!
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM
I live in Asia.
Whenever i go to places like US and Australia I find I'm surrounded by fat people who roll smugly from place to place in great steel boxes. They imagine they are somehow empowered.
In fact they are all VICTIMS of a very efficient and highly sophisticated sales process produced by multinational corporations at huge investment.
I know what I'm talking about. I have worked on many campaigns that aim to persuade people to act against their interests in the pursuit of some bullshit ideal. The fat epidemic is proof these campaigns work.
It's interesting to me to see how many people in this thread are trying to convince themselves that somehow this magazine article doesn't reflect a previous reality. You people are fucking brainwashed. I feel sorry for you.
You can change your life. Start by googling "How To Be Happy". Study what you find. Implement it.
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Saw a lot of comments about no fat people. There weren't hardly any. We had a thing called PE in school and we went to PE 5 days a week. Schools today have little or no PE which I think has had an enormous impact on obesity today.
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 7:05 PM
Not only were there no fat people back then, there were no males either, evidently. C'mon people. This is about fashion and the photographer wasn't out to take pictures of ugly or fat people, his or her assignment was to make beautiful pictures of beautiful girls illustrating the fashions of the day and that is exactly what the photographer did.
It's not that I don't agree that people back then in general weren't as overweight as the average of people today, but comments based on these pictures about this subject do not take into account that we are seeing what Life magazine wanted us to see.
- Alan said...February 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Re Anonymous Feb 25 2:23pm:
I've written about temporal bigots -- the people who think that the people and the mores of right now are the only people and the only mores that there ever were.
What do the racists commenting on this page want Life to do, Photoshop some Negroes into the pictures? It would probably solve the problem of the paucity of fat people, too...
- Anonymous said...February 25, 2013 at 11:02 PM
For those of you wondering "SoCal?" and "Why so many white kids?", I've seen this layout before. Was a long time ago, but am 75-80% sure it was shot at Beverly Hills HS in '68 or '69.
As for the 'why no fatties' issue, I graduated in 1977 from a HS that had 5000 (!) students. I'd classify maybe 50 in the 'husky/chunky' class, and another 30, tops, as obese.
HS kids got more exercise then, true, but they ate the exact same fast food crap they do now; and were just as lazy then as now. If you ever pick up a copy of 'Wheat Belly Diet', and compare HS pics from 1969 and 2009, you'll be sold: the difference is *obviously* GMO grains, and HFC sweeteners in colas. They weren't around back then, and the kids weren't fat. Today.....things have changed. Cause and Effect, baby. C&E.
- gah! said...February 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM
the girls appear to be feminine as well.
Well, we can all blame the people in these photos for the present state of our country.
- Anonymous said...February 28, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Talk about brain washed, i see much talk about HFCS, that is part of the brainwashing, yet not one mention of the very addictive and deadly Nutrasweet and other synthesized sweeteners, so called natural and placed in many more foods than anyone cold shake a stick at. If you drank soda back than it was an 8oz. bottle or 12oz. can bottle, and it had REAL SUGAR. Also, as mentioned in an earlier post, smaller BALANCED meals,(no food pyramids) BALANCED families and every day exercise in some form. In other words we thought for and made choices for ourselves, these choices usually also in many ways would benefit additional family, friends and neighborhood. That was until public school and media brainwashing
- Anonymous said...March 4, 2013 at 12:58 AM
For the idiots claiming no one was fat. These are pictures of white high school kids. Go look at a yearbook of any recent white high school and everyone will look just as fit. Most people don't gain a lot of weight until after high school.
Geez bunch of retards on here.
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"Now they won't be forced to get a job off the farm." The new law prohibits insurance companies from rejecting individuals for pre-existing conditions. "The no pre-existing condition is a positive benefit,"says Tim Mahaffey, executive director of the Farmers Health Cooperative of Wisconsin in Madison. However, he is concerned about the costs. "For those who don't qualify for the small business tax subsidy (less than 25 employees), the cost could be high." Moving Target. While the new law conveys several benefits, it could pose a host of financial challenges. Because the law is "a moving target" and is still being tweaked, experts and farm advocates say that it leaves many questions unanswered, such as how much will it cost farmers to cover themselves and their families if they try to buy insurance through the exchanges and whether farmers with more than 50 seasonal employees must extend coverage to them. Greg Buckman, a fourth-generation farmer from Hallsville, Mo., who also sells health insurance, says most farmers he's spoken with are uneasy about the new law because it is sure to lead to higher premiums. He says the law forces insurance companies to pass on the costs to customers, particularly those who are healthy and haven't had any difficulty getting insurance in the past. "I'd say 95% believe that Obamacare is a bad thing," says Buckman, who is also a regional vice president for the Missouri Cattlemen's Association. "The 5% that do like it are the ones who can't buy insurance." Buckman pays $700 a month for a premium that covers him and two employees. The policy has a $6,000 deductible for each of them. As of December 2014, his monthly policy will increase by at least $250. He says another carrier has informed him that it plans to raise its rates by 32% next year. Like the rest of the population, many farmers who live in states where there are a limited number of major carriers are concerned about being able to find affordable policies. There are also concerns that farm businesses that qualify for tax subsidies might see those subsidies eroded by exorbitant prices at the exchanges. Wendy Fink-Weber, spokeswoman for the Western Growers Association, which represents about 2,500 farmers who grow labor intensive crops, says the new law presents a couple of overarching problems. Seasonal Unknowns. First, these farmers hire scores of seasonal employees who receive limited forms of health insurance known as mini-med plans. The plans typically cover $50,000 or $100,000 of medical expenses, Fink-Weber says. "There are not a lot of deductibles," she says. "The workforce is healthy and a little younger than the general population." Farmers are concerned about being able to afford the premiums if the new law requires them to buy more comprehensive forms of health insurance for their seasonal workers, she says. It's estimated that 70% of seasonal employees are undocumented immigrants. Getting insurance for these employees would be impossible. "This has also given us the impetus to work on immigration reform," she says, adding that they are working to extend waivers to let them keep using these mini-med plans. While it's easy to question the unknown, observers are quick to tout other aspects of this law that could benefit farmers, such as tax subsidies for those who are income eligible. They note that it would also benefit farmers who are 50 and older. Mahaffey says some health insurance ratio rates for older to younger people are as high as 5:1. Under the law, the ratio cannot be higher than 3:1. "As we've moved through the implementation, people are hopeful it will work, but they are apprehensive," says Pat Wolff, American Farm Bureau Federation senior director of congressional relations. "Employers are concerned about what they will have to do to comply with the law and what it will cost." It's these unknowns that trouble many. "We don't know what the costs of premiums will be," Mahaffey says. "A farmer that has scaled back coverage and is now being forced to buy comprehensive coverage might be faced with sticker shock." Back to news


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AMHERST, MA – The York College women's basketball team saw their outstanding 2011-12 season come to end at the hands of top ranked Amherst College 79-55 on Friday night at LeFrak Gymnasium in Amherst, Mass.
The Spartans conclude their season with a mark of 24-6 while the undefeated Lord Jeffs advance to the round of eight with a perfect 30-0 mark.
The Spartans got off to a good start as sophomore point guard Aja Wallpher hit the first bucket of the game on York's first possession, giving York its first, and only, lead of the game.
Sophomore forward Brittany Hicks hit a jumper at the 16:33 mark, tying the low scoring contest at four. The Lord Jeffs then put together an 11-2 run, extending their lead to 15-6 with 11:36 remaining in the first half. Amherst All-American Caroline Stedman poured in seven straight points on the run as the hosts gained firm control of the game.
York trimmed the lead down to seven four times over the next eight minutes with the last time coming on a pair of Jess Selby free throws with 4:56 left in the stanza. After another Stedman triple, sophomore Kristen Haley hit a lay up at the 4:20 mark. That would be York's last first half field goal. After Haley's bucket, Amherst outscored York 7-1 to end the half.
The first half saw the Spartans shoot a season-low 24% in the opening 20 minutes while the 18 points was also the lowest total for York. The Green and White also committed 11 first half turnovers which directly led to 15 Amherst points.
The second half didn't start much better for York as the Lord Jeffs scored six of the first eight points of the half to take a 38-20 lead. York used a quick 6-0 spurt to cut the lead to 12 at 38-26 but the Lord Jeffs answered with six of the next eight points to push the lead back to 16 with 14:53 remaining in regulation.
York cut the lead to 13 on a Madeline Sloan lay up with 12:46 but the Lord Jeffs ripped any hopes of a comeback away from York with a 7-1 run that jacked the lead to 19 with 10:43 left in the contest.
Amherst pushed the lead to 26 on two different occasions before settling for the 24-point margin of victory.
Stedman powered four Lord Jeffs in double figures as she poured in 20 points in just 23 minutes of work. Stedman was 7-for-16 from the floor including 3-for-7 from three and 3-for-5 from the line. Lem Atanga McCormick added 18 points and eight rebounds while Marcia Voigt contributed 17 big points including four three pointers, many of which came at key points in the game for Amherst. Megan Robertson came off the bench to add 12 points and six rebounds for the Lord Jeffs.
Hicks powered the Spartans with another impressive performance as she totaled 26 points on 8-of-13 shooting from the floor including 2-of-3 from distance and 8-for-13 from the free throw line. She also pulled in a game-high 13 rebounds for her 10th double-double of the year. Wallpher was the other Spartan in double figures with 10 points while she also had six assists and two steals in her 36 minutes of work.
The Spartans shot 33.3% for the game while they attempted just six three pointers all night. The six threes and the two made threes are both season lows for the Green and White. York wasn't great at the free throw line either, converting 17-of-26, good for a 60.7% shooting percentage.
Amherst finished the game shooting 43.3% including 42.9% (9-for-21) from three. The Lord Jeffs made 12-of-17 (70.6%) from the free throw line.
Spartan head coach Betsy Witman doesn't want the result of tonight's game to taint the great season the Spartans had.
"We are a considerably young team and I don't want this last game to be what we take away from this season," stated the Spartan mentor. "It's been an incredible journey. These kids have matured as players and as people. Our team chemistry has been unbelievable by the end of the season, both on and off the floor. I just think we were playing at a high level, particularly the last two games. Even tonight, I thought we played hard. I hope our kids remember that we got to the NCAA tournament and won two games. We will miss our senior leadership but the exciting thing is that the core of this team is sophomores and they have two years to play together. What a great experience to be in the NCAA tournament and win two games. Hopefully we can continue to take more steps further."
Witman knew the Spartans had their work cut out for them coming into the second Sweet 16 in school history.
"We knew coming into the game that Amherst was really strong. We have a lot of respect for their program and what they have done this year. I thought we were prepared but Amherst is a very good team. They beat us inside and outside and were very tough to score against."
Witman felt the Lord Jeffs were comparable to Capital Athletic Conference foe Mary Washington, who is also undefeated on the season.
They are similar to Mary Washington but they are a step better. They are deeper and bigger. I am proud of my team and we fought until the end. We could have easily put our heads down, even though we lost by a pretty big margin, our kids kept fighting."
Hicks commented about the inside/out ability of the Lord Jeffs.
"It's hard when you have a team that goes inside and out. There's not one player on that team that didn't step outside and you had to guard against the three. Even when I am guarding someone, I am allowed a little bit of space but Amherst didn't allow me to have that. We had to rely on our help defense but they are really good at dishing the ball so it was just an all around tough time guarding them because they have such good players."
Witman knew the Lord Jeffs made things difficult on the Spartans in the first half.
"I thought in the first half we weren't very patient on the offensive end. We were taking quick shots but credit their defense, they made us play that way. Normally shots that come very easily to us just weren't there. It's not like they weren't open, the shots just weren't there. They are the best defensive team we have seen all season.
The loss closes out the stellar career of four-year starter April Sparkman. She finishes her career with 1,615 points, good for third on the all-time scoring list. She collected 767 rebounds and made 148 career three point field goals. She was a three-time All-CAC selection for the Green and White and will go down as one of the best players in Spartan history. Seniors Khadija Mitchell and Brittany Percich also saw their careers conclude with the loss.
Amherst, the defending Division III National Champions, continue their impressive run. The Lord Jeffs have won 49 straight games including 66 straight at LeFrak Gymnasium in Amherst. The Lord Jeffs' senior class has amassed an impressive 123-6 mark over the last four years including a 94-2 mark in the last three years.
The Lord Jeffs play Emmanuel for a trip to the Final Four. Amherst is playing for their fourth straight trip to the Division III Final Four. Tip time from Amherst is set for 6:00 pm.


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The music video for Fiona Apple's "Every Single Night" is sort of hypnotically weird, in a "I want to be Lady Gaga, but I'm too depressed" sort of way.
Apple told Pitchfork:
I told [director] Joey [Cahill] just to come up with a bunch of things and do things to me and put me in situations and surprise me. One thing I wanted to have happen was to be covered in snails. I laid in a bed of soil and they put snails all over me. And then they brought in shit that I would not have asked for. He put a dead squid on my head.
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LG to bring over-the-air phone sync to all
DropBox-style service coming to feature phones
MWC LG has claimed it is the first phone maker to bring over-the-air synchronisation out of the smartphone handset category and into the mid-range market.
It showed off the technology, dubbed LG Air Sync, using the skinny LG Mini phone it launched last week as the world's "smallest and thinnest" touchphone.
LG's Air Sync: duplicate data on phone and PC
Air Sync continually ensures the Mini's complement of data - photos, video clips, calendars, contacts and browser history - is duplicated not only on LG's servers but also on the user's own computer.
Think of it as a kind of DropBox for feature phones.
The notion is that should your phone be lost or stolen, you'll be able to get your data back onto your new one quickly.
It also means, of course, you have an incentive to keep buying LG handsets.
LG's Mini: three-way syncing included
LG didn't say if the Air Sync service will be free of charge, or impose a maximum per-sync data transfer capacity.
The first phone to support Air Sync, the Mini - aka the GD800 - is based around a 3.2in touchscreen and provides 7.2Mb/s HSDPA 3G and Wi-Fi connectivity. It has a 5Mp camera, an FM radio and assisted GPS. It goes on sale here in March. ®


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"Metazoa" by ROA at Jonathan LeVine Gallery
Photos by G. Art by ROA.
Belgian street artist ROA has a new exhibit at Jonathan Levine Gallery in New York entitled "Metazoa." ROA specializes in the portrayal of animals, specifically those that have been forced to dwell in the outskirts of urban society, not unlike street artists, whose work once released into the wild can often get them arrested.
Within each panel of ROA's works, you can move pieces around to reveal the carcass of each animal.
It's definitely worth a look if you are gallery hopping. "Metazoa" by ROA is showing at Jonathan Levine Gallery (located at 529 West 20th Street) in New York through May 2, 2015.


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NEW YORK (AP) -- LeBron James lost his latest triple-double Friday when the NBA determined that one of his rebounds should have been credited to Cleveland teammate Ben Wallace.
James scored a season-high 52 points and had 11 assists Wednesday in the Cavaliers' 107-102 victory at New York. He was believed to have a triple-double when he grabbed what went down as a 10th rebound with under 2 seconds left.
However, the league reviewed the game and ruled that a rebound given to James with 39.3 seconds remaining should have been credited to Wallace. The corrected statistics now have James with nine rebounds and Wallace with two.
A release from the league said: "All NBA games are reviewed to ensure the accuracy of the game statistics."
Had the triple-double stood, it would have been the first 50-point game in a triple-double since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1975.
James now remains with three triple-doubles this season and 20 for his career.
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Peyton Harvill necesitaba un nuevo diseño de logotipo y lanzó un concurso de diseño en 99designs.
Un ganador ha sido elegido entre 85 diseños de 21 diseñadores freelance.
PH Company (building & design)
We are a husband & wife team looking to start a new general contracting/Interior design company. We plan to specialize in new home construction, renovations, additions and/or general contracting. Both my wife and I are currently in the profession (builder & designer). However, we are looking to join forces, so to speak as an added sales feature for the new construction we are looking to get. Our names both begin with P.H. hint the PH Company.
We are looking to do new high-end homes, renovations & additions. We are not the contractor you call to fix your toilet or a flickering light.
We want our logo to be simple but eye catching, sophisticated and established looking. Nothing to ornate/decorative, nor do we want a tool or house represenation.
I think we are leaning towards a play on the "PH" in the PH Company that catches your eye. We are undecided if we want to us "Building & Design" anywhere in the logo. Feel free to experiment.
These are the colors we like (Neutral), earth tones greens, blues, browns. We know we don't want red and would prefer charcoal over black.
No clip art or stock images.
I do not know what files I will need. This will eventually be put on job signs, letter heads, shirts, huggers. (I think jpg and layered psd files is what I need?)
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It's on like LeBron when Mr. James and the Eastern Conference's finest take on the best of the West at the "NBA All-Star Game" in New Orleans. 5 p.m. TNT
Leading the field with 11 nominations, Alfonso Cuarón's "Gravity" is a force to be reckoned with at the "British Academy Film Awards 2014." 8 p.m. BBC America
All grown up: The family-friendly sitcom "Good Luck Charlie" presents its series finale. 8 p.m. Disney Channel
Benedict Cumberbatch plays the villain in 1982's "Star Trek II: The Wrath of…" – oops, that's 2013's "Star Trek Into Darkness." With Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. 8 p.m. Epix
The Nazis are bombing London, and added to that spot of bother, there's "Murder on the Home Front" in this whodunit set in WWII-era Britain. 10:15 p.m. KOCE
Good sports: Snowboarder Shaun White and the Dodgers' Yasiel Puig are among the nominees for "Hall of Game 2014." 7 p.m. Cartoon Network
Aquatic fowl are up all night to get ducky in the new animated series "Breadwinners." 7:30 p.m. Nickelodeon
It's like they're from two different worlds — oh, wait, they are — in the new teen-themed science fiction drama "Star-Crossed." With Aimee Teegarden and Matt Lanter. 8 p.m. KTLA
Chefs Anne Burrell and Bobby Flay do the best they can with the "Worst Cooks in America" when the culinary competition returns for a fifth season. 9 p.m. Food
Debutantes in Laredo, Texas, get dolled up like America's first first lady in the documentary "Las Marthas" on a new "Independent Lens." 10 p.m. KOCE
Heeeere's Jimmy! The former "Late Night" host follows in the footsteps of Messrs. Allen, Paar, Carson, Leno, O'Brien and Leno again with the debut of "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon." Midnight NBC
Agents of S.H.A.K.E.S.P.E.A.R.E.: Amy Acker, Alexis Denisof, Nathan Fillion and Clark Gregg star in Joss Whedon's contemporized 2012 take on the Bard's rom-com "Much Ado About Nothing." 8 p.m. Epix
Where now stands New York City's Madison Square Garden, there once stood the majestic Penn Station, the making and unmaking of which is revisited on "American Experience." 9 p.m. KOCE
What's not to "like"? See how teens' social-media shout-outs for name-brand products are used to market name-brand products to teens on social media on a new "Frontline." 10 p.m. KOCE
The wise man builds his house on the rock, but the even wiser one buys a house that is "Mennonite Made" in this new docu-series. 10 p.m. National Geographic Channel
Honey badger don't care about going viral on the Web. But this feisty carnivore found in Africa and Asia must be pretty pleased that he's being featured on a new episode of "Nature." 8 p.m. KOCE
Almost golden girl: Five-time Oscar nominee Amy Adams ("American Hustle") is featured on a new "Inside the Actors Studio." 8 p.m. Bravo
"The Real Pompeii" recalls the volcanic panic that ensued when Mount Vesuvius blew its top way back in 79 AD. 9 p.m. National Geographic Channel
By George! "Seinfeld's" Jason Alexander guest stars as Maddie's (Kirstie Alley) agent on a new "Kirstie." 10:30 p.m. TV Land
"The Taste" dishes up its second-season finale. 8 p.m. ABC
All right, all right, all right! It's Golden Globe winner Matthew McConaughey's turn on another new "Inside the Actors Studio." 8 p.m. Bravo
Take his wives … please: "The Sopranos'" Michael Imperioli guest stars as an accused bigamist on a new "Rake." 9 p.m. Fox
They don't scare us: Billy Crystal and John Goodman reprise their "Monsters, Inc." voice roles in the 2013 prequel "Monsters University." 8 p.m. Starz
Sting sails through a set of songs from his latest album "The Last Ship," the basis for a new Broadway-bound musical, on "Great Performances." 9 p.m. KOCE
Get revved up for next Sunday's big NASCAR race with "The Daytona 500 Bash at the Beach." 8 p.m. Fox
John Cusack is a serial killer and Nicolas Cage is the cop out to put him on ice in the Alaska-set 2013 thriller "The Frozen Ground." 8 p.m. Epix
Jesse Eisenberg, Woody Harrelson and Isla Fisher use their illusions in the 2013 caper "Now You See Me." Mark Ruffalo, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman also star. 8 p.m. HBO
A woman fears an old friend has gone off-line — permanently — in the thriller "Status: Unknown." 8 p.m. Lifetime
Bloody good show! The Victorian-era crime drama "Ripper Street" is back for a second season. Matthew MacFadyen stars. 9 p.m. BBC America
We're all alone, no chaperon can get our number, the world's in slumber, let's watch the new docu-series "Secret Sex Lives." 9 p.m. TLC


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Published January 13, 2015
New Jersey has approved a request from a national atheist group's president for a license plate with the word atheist after a brief flap.
The Motor Vehicle Commission said Thursday a clerk had wrongly told David Silverman of New Jersey-based American Atheists Inc. he couldn't use the word on his plate.
Spokeswoman Elyse Coffey says the clerk had exceeded her authority.
Silverman says the clerk told him his proposed plate was offensive, which he called "outrageously discriminatory."
Custom plates with language deemed offensive are prohibited. Coffey says it was determined there was "nothing offensive" about it.
Silverman's plate will have the number one in place of the letter "i."
The MVC says "atheist" spelled with an "i'' was taken. It's on an old license plate hanging in Silverman's office.


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Many snow-kiters have combined a climbing harness with waist harness in the past to back-up for safety when doing small glides in snow. The crunch factor is hard to control with these leg loops. Also too much uneven/unpredictable transfer of power from hook to femur. There's a long way to go in this area.
The ideal connection point would be joining the legs to the waist harness via the spine area, emulating (or not interfering with) the natural twist of torso. The leg part would be fitted and lower, well below potential marital harm (not crushing the family jewels please). The tricky part is how to make it not look funny. Don't tell me I gotta wear boardshorts over it. Tall order I know.
Ideally it might have to be an integral part of the wetsuit, with an attachment point for the harness at the base of the spine or across the hip joints.


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Hyundai's posh mid-sizer.
All-new in spring 2012, the Azera is staged to take a sizable bite out of the market share of cars like the Ford Taurus, the Nissan Maxima, and the Buick LaCrosse. The traditional slowest-selling Hyundai — it slots between the Sonata and the Genesis — recently got the full attention of the company's able engineers and designers, and it follows the swoopy design themes of the Sonata, the Elantra, and the Accent. Only one trim level is available, and it's loaded — as it should be for a starting price of about $33,000. Standard leather upholstery is sweetened by seat heaters for all four outboard positions. Touch-screen navigation, a backup camera, Bluetooth, and dual-zone automatic climate control are also standard. The only option is the $4000 technology package, which includes a panoramic moonroof, xenon headlights, nineteen-inch wheels, ventilated front seats, rear sunshades, and a powerful Infinity stereo. There's only one engine (previously there were two), but it offers 10 more hp and better mileage than the previous top engine. A six-speed automatic transmission remains standard. The Azera is no sports car, but it's comfortable and spacious. If you like the styling and don't care to spend a couple grand more on the sportier rear-wheel-drive Genesis sedan, the new Azera might satisfy your automotive hunger.
Chrysler 300
Nissan Maxima
Toyota Avalon
Volkswagen Passat
new for 2013
Nothing — because everything was new last spring.
Front, side, side curtain, and driver's-knee air bags; ABS; traction and stability control; electronic brakeforce distribution; tire-pressure monitors; and impact-reducing seats are standard.
Affordable, spacious luxury
New model follows recent Hyundai lead
Far from sporty
Lots of solid competition in Hyundai's own showroom
Base Price: $33,000 (est.)
DRIVE: Front-wheel
TRIM LEVEL: Azera
BODY STYLE: Sedan, 5-passenger
ENGINE: 3.3L V-6, 293 hp, 255 lb-ft
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed automatic


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The road to London and the Olympics this year for Track and Field came through Eugene, also known as TrackTown USA. Featuring top-notch athletes from across the country, a huge fan festival, live music and more, the Olympic Trials ran from June 21-July 1, 2012.
I attended the events on Saturday, June 23 at historic Hayward Field to cheer on the decathletes and sprinters. With seats right in from of the finish line, it proved to be one exciting day of races.
The climax of the day's events by far was watching Ashton Eaton cross the finish line of the 1,500m in seconds under is personal record to set a new world record for the decathlon, take gold at the meet and move on as a member of Team USA to the Olympics!
Check out all the events, results and photos from the trials in Eugene at TrackTown USA


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Sebastian Bach Unveils Promo Clip for Upcoming CD/DVD 'ABachalypse Now'
Sebastian Bach is preparing to offer the ultimate live package for fans, as the 'ABachalypse Now' CD/DVD collection will arrive on March 26. The frontman has just unveiled the electronic press kit for the upcoming release in which he discusses some of the material fans are getting.
In the promo, which can be seen below, Bach focuses on the Graspop Metal Meeting performance in Belgium, which is just part of the footage that fans will get in the package. The vocalist says, "This is one of my favorite shows to watch because I was bitching and moaning about it for like a week before I did it, because it was the earliest set time I think I've ever experienced, going on at noon or one in the afternoon."
He recalls, "There was a torrential rainstorm, which made it even funnier. So I was just whining the whole time. It made it so I couldn't run around and jump around, I just had to stand there in a puddle of water and scream my guts out. I think the band played really good show at this show." Despite the conditions, Bach says he finds it fun to watch in retrospect and loves the final video footage from the show.
The ultimate CD/DVD edition features the Graspop Metal Meeting, plus a full never-before-seen set from Hellfest in France and a fully remixed and remastered show from Los Angeles' Nokia Theater.
In other Sebastian Bach news, the musician has been working on new music of late. He's teamed with Billy Idol guitarist Steve Stevens on songs. He also recently rehearsed with Fuel's Brett Scallions, Barenaked Ladies' Ed Robertson, members of O.A.R. and the Dave Matthews Band for a live show that will air Saturday (March 16) on AXS TV.
Watch Sebastian Bach's EPK Discussing the Graspop Festival Performance


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