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Monday, March 11, 2013
I Just. Want. Mayo.
Here in New York it seems that most people use ketchup on their burger but for many of us who grew up in the south, the only natural thing to smear all over your red meat sandwich is dollop after dollop of rich creamy mayo. When I take an order for someone's burger I don't ask them if they want mayonnaise or mustard with it. I figure they will tell me if they want it and I will get it for them. If they tell me when they order their burger, I always go get it right away so that it is on the table when their food arrives. If they tell me when I serve the food, I get it immediately. It takes precedence over everything else because I don't want their burger to get cold while they wait for condiments. If someone else is waiting for a beverage or needs more bread or wants more water or needs me to snap a picture of them on their anniversary, it all waits until the other customer has their blessed mayo. I practically worship at the House of Mayo so I know how important it is. To be honest, I converted to the House of Mayo after growing up in the Chapel of Miracle Whip.
Last night I took off my apron and was a customer for a change. Sitting at the bar, I order a burger but forget to to say in advance that mayo will be necessary. When the food comes out, I tell the bartender that I would like some.
"Absolutely, right away," he says.
Famous last words.
I watch as he proceeds to make a couple of drinks and greet some other customers. I nibble on a french fry. I see the bartender take care of someone's check. I eat another fry. Finally, I see him tell a busser something and I expect that thirty seconds later he will emerge with my condiments but all I see is the busser come back with a rack of glasses. I try to catch the bartender's eye thinking that maybe he has forgotten my request, but he does not look my way. I continue to eat my french fries as my mouth begins to drool looking at my naked hamburger. I want my fucking mayo and I want it now. I see another server come to the bar and ask for change so now the bartender is counting money out of his drawer. He pours two more beers as my burger dies a slow death. I look at the ramekin of ketchup on my plate and decide that I can use it in a pinch. About five minutes have passed. Giving up all hope, I spread ketchup on my no-longer warm bun but this is when I see the bartender go to the kitchen and return with an industrial size jar of mayo that he opens. He disappears again and returns with two ramekins. As if in slow motion, I watch him spoon out the creamy deliciousness into the ramekins. I have already begun to eat my burger and one third of my fries are gone. When he finally brings my mayo, seven minutes have passed. Seven minutes? Unacceptable.
Usually, I am on the side of the server, but this guy failed me. When customers need something for their meal that they need before they can start eating, it has to be done right away. If someones asks for fresh pepper, you do that immediately. Or at least as soon as you can find the goddamn pepper mill because some asshole co-worker never puts it back where it supposed to go and it's always hidden the fuck away. But you do it quickly. If a customers needs another fork because they dropped theirs onto the floor, you do it right away. Or at least as soon as you can get the goddamn dishwasher to run the silver because you're out of it and you've been asking for him to wash it for ten goddamn minutes. If they ask for more napkins you do it as soon as you can because not having a napkin isn't going to keep them from eating. Do you see the difference?
Those seven minutes I waited for my mayo was a very trying time for me. They were hellish and miserable and I can never get those seven minutes back. C'mon servers, we have to step up our game if we expect decent tips. I still left 20% because I don't know how to do a tip less than that, but plenty of people would have taken that seven minutes as a reason to tip 10% or even less.
So what can we call that time that passes whole waiting for mayo? I guess it all depends on the server. With the guy last night, I would call those seven minutes Mayonnaise: Missing in Action. Had it been in my station and someone asked me for mayo. the time that they would wait for it would be called Miracle: Whipped and Ready.
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39 comments:
Write an article about cheeseburgers and why it is assumed that everyone wants cheese. I want mayo and no cheese and it's not weird.
- March 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM
I feel that way about beverages. I can't eat unless I have something to drink and so I would also watch my food get cold if the waiter takes 7 minutes to get me an iced tea refill.
To try and avoid this problem I always tell the waiter that I drink a lot and am not able to eat without some kind of liquid in front of me. As long as they try to oblige I leave at least a 25 percent tip.
Places I go regularly often give me small refill pitchers and for my regular waiters I'll leave 30 percent or more.
I figure give a little, get a little. I'm always nice about it, so I hope they are glad to see me!
- March 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM
- ... said...
You know what always shocks me? When I order a burger and fries (or anything that comes with fries) and the waiter is surprised that we ask for KETCHUP....and then we have to wait in agony for him to finally get around to bringing it to our table.
- March 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM
- *Tanyetta* said...
I try to ask for EVERYTHING I need with my meal upfront or very close together in time. Napkins, Condiments, TWO glasses of water with NO lemon, Dessert (if I am in the mood), a to go box and the check, EVERYTHING! To avoid being up-sold and having the person coming back and forth. It seems to work out better this way. I like to have everything in front of me and then, I can take my time, chat with my friends and family and the waiter can move on to the next table with ease. IF I am with my kids, then, it's a little bit more of a hassle because I want to know what they want to order BEFORE the waiter gets there. Reminds me of the Steve Byrns standup about the kid and the waiter. LOL!___ It doesn't always work out this smoothly but, for the most part, it works.
- March 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM
- anne marie in philly said...
now springs1 and her ranch dressing can wait. but ketchup, mustard, steak sauce, mayo, etc. cannot.
BTW - mayo sux. ;)
- March 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM
- Border Collie said...
I used to order tuna sandwiches until everybody starting putting way more mayo than tuna in the sandwich.
There is a state I find myself in from time to time because some great people live there, but the food is always dreadful. Went to a stand to get a grilled cheese on the theory they couldn't screw up a grilled cheese. They asked me if I wanted it with or without. Without what? I asked. Mayo, they said without blinking an eye. Anybody ever heard of putting mayo on a grilled cheese?
- March 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM
I still worship at the Church of Miracle Whip, but I'll settle for mayo in a restaurant; not for the burger, but for the fries--and I'm never even been to Belgium.
Mustard is fine on a burger; ketchup is boring but acceptable. Ranch dressing is the spawn of Satan.
- March 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM
I'm with you Bitchy. Waiting for condiments of any kind is torture. Even though I was a server for years, I still sometimes will be the dreaded customer who will stand up and go ask a random employee for steak sauce or mustard or salt if my server is mia.
It ruins the meal for me. :-(
- March 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM
- maxi said...
Ketchup and mayo mixed together is a necessity, though I prefer BBQ sauce and sour cream mixed... I'm weird and used to the odd looks fro servers!
- March 11, 2013 at 6:41 PM
- theblonde said...
@Tracy, you are confused as to why people want Cheese on their cheeseburgers?
Good on you, BW - I'm the same. I can only hope that people who asked for napkins or a box before the mayo/ketchup/whatever request realizes the difference.
- March 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM
- Mannix said...
I, on occasion, turn mad scientist when I order a burger and fries and want to drench it in MayoKetchup. A Frankenstein condiment that cannot be completed with solely ketchup. It's like trying to form Voltron with 4 Lions. It can't be done!
I did not have your patience on that day. I broadcast my MayoMayday to any server, busser, bartender or patron-passerby within spitting distance asking, nay, begging for my ketchup!
Luckily, there was an attentive waiter that answered my distress call and I rewarded him with a 25% tip, much to the chagrin of my dinner companions. However, I calmly explained that he deserved every penny of said tip given the fact that he saved everyone in the restaurant from a premature Armageddon.
Thus I say to you, BRAVO BITCHY WAITER! If that was you that saved my day, then forgive me for not tipping 30%!
- March 12, 2013 at 12:47 AM
Ok damn what's The big deal about mayo ?? It's like ranch in the south but worse! It's horrible! Mayo sucks it's pure lard. I'm not hating on you bitchy I absolutely love each and every one of your posts I just despise mayo it's just gross to me.
- March 12, 2013 at 12:50 AM
- Lolamouse said...
When I lived in SC, they put mayo on EVERYTHING! It had to be "Duke's" though!
- March 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM
- JoeinVegas said...
And what did you tip the guy after that? Did you let him know about the wait? (write it on the tip line?) If not, how will he learn?
- March 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM
- Aaron Maynard said...
Hilarious BW!! We could make a movie on that agonizing time and call it Dial M for Mayo or the Mayo Displacement Theory or Mayo or May Not.
- March 12, 2013 at 10:54 AM
OMG, just happened to me last week, but I asked for spicy mustard. I was halfway through my burger before it was brought out to me and that was after I had to slow waaaayyy down while waiting!
- March 12, 2013 at 3:02 PM
"To be honest, I converted to the House of Mayo after growing up in the Chapel of Miracle Whip."
Ha! Same here! Did you also grow up in a chunky peanut butter household, and switch to creamy like I did as well?
- March 12, 2013 at 6:38 PM
- sparky01gt said...
What I don't understand is why mayo is the one thing people ALWAYS forget to mention they want when they order. They'll give you 47 modification for that burger but wait until it is in front of them to remember they have to have mayo to eat it.
Of course on the rare occasion someone remembers to order it upfront, and I type it on the ticket, the food runner doesn't bother to bring it. :|
- March 13, 2013 at 12:33 AM
- Noelle said...
@Paul e mayo I'd not lard at all. It's egg yolk and oil and I love it on beef. Some people dip fries in it. It can't wait. I would have been disappointed too.
- March 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Ok I'm not sure of the environment you were dining in, but I love your blog and being a bartender for years I just have to vent a little. Keep in mind you did order a burger from the bar. I worked for years where people would order 5 course meals at the bar instead of sitting in the dining room. I couldn't stand how people expected me to give them a dining experience at a bar. I serve drinks, tell jokes and force you to take shots not make sure your filet comes out after your salad is finished. I don't have time for that. A burger isn't a really big deal but to most bartenders it isn't our glass of wine :)
- March 19, 2013 at 7:18 PM
- March 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Belgians don't ruin their fries with miracle whip.
- March 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM
- Kyla said...
A cheeseburger without cheese is generally referred to as... a hamburger. Maybe that's the source of your issue.
- March 24, 2013 at 9:53 PM
- Springs1 said...
Your fault you forgot to ask for it and if the drink orders were taken *BEFORE* you asked for that mayo, you *DESERVE* to wait since it wasn't your turn. You shouldn't be serving with cutting in mind.
Now you at least FINALLY KNOW how I feel about condiments. I order them 99.9% of the time *WITH* my food WITHOUT FORGETTING and 85% or so of the time, they get forgotten or more like ignored.
It doesn't matter if the server fixes it right away or not, if they forgot it, the order is delivered INCORRECT. They could have brought it out ahead of time rather than risking forgetting them.
Now I do take off much more if they take a long time.
I don't get it why you are against me, *YET* you sound ******************EXACTLY**************** HOW *************I*************** FEEL, WTF????
If we agree on this, WHY are you not letting me post here, huh?
I mean, this is the *HELL* I GO THROUGH************CONSTANTLY********** WITH UNCARING ASSHOLE SERVERS WHO DON'T SAY THEY ARE EVEN SORRY FOR FORGETTING THEM.
Some servers don't even write the orders down even.
This weekend, shitty service 2 places we went to. I mean, HOW HARD IS IT TO GET ONE ADDED CONDIMENT TO AN APPETIZER CORRECT FROM *YOUR* SERVER?
It helps the tip if I hear a sorry, but I don't most of the times. I am nice about still say "thank you" and tell them NICELY about it, but they still treat me like I am a dog, not a human being with *FEELINGS*! Where's my sorry I feel as I am telling them "Thank you", you know? They want my money, but don't want to be nice, WTF???
Now you see how I felt when once I had to ask 4 times for a side of ranch and a side of bbq sauce at a Chili's, which a manager had to get it. First when I ordered, then when another server ran the food, then our server again which I told her I had told the guy that delivered the food about it(which she should have went to find out where it was, but didn't) and finally my husband called a manager over to get it. 4 minutes. It's ridiculous there's no reason for that. Servers should just offer to bring that stuff out ahead of time and avoid all of that. If you warm up the bbq sauce warm enough it should stay warm by the time the food comes out. The ranch could have been brought out ahead of time for sure.
NOW you see how *I* feel. I am TIRED of the uncaring, lazy servers who don't care, but then want your money.
- March 31, 2013 at 9:28 PM
- Springs1 said...
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- March 31, 2013 at 9:34 PM
- Springs1 said...
"so I would also watch my food get cold if the waiter takes 7 minutes to get me an iced tea refill."
When I see that, I don't get it most of the times, because if you go in the order in which request came in, you shouldn't be waiting no 7 minutes unless you are delivering hot food, even then, I would ask another team member to help if they could if it would be the refills or with some of the food. It shouldn't take 7 minutes to deliver food unless it is a really large party.
Refills honestly in most cases should take less than a minute to a minute and a half if it's like 2 -3 refills. There's no reason refills should take 5 minutes or more in most cases if you go in the order in which request came in.
- March 31, 2013 at 9:35 PM
springs, even when I agree with you, you just turn my stomach. blah.
BW-to focus on the wrong part of the story....
What is the problem with dishwashers and silverware, huh? Dump, run, sort, repeat. It's not rocket science.
- April 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM
I didn't see you mention the tip, stereotypes and all.....do you tip 20%?
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14. Who proposed the nursing theory of self-care deficit?
Dorothea orem
15. The head circumference of a normal infant is –
33-35 cm
16. The leading cause of death in adolescence is –
17. The legal definition of 'death' that facilitates organ donation is, cessation of –
Function of brain
18. The body temperature at which tissues and cells can best function is –
36-38o C
19. Men have a higher Basal Metabolic Rate because, their body contains more-
20. The mechanism by which body loses heat to the environment, without having direct contact is –?
21. Which of the following structures controls heat loss?
(a) Anterior pituitary (b) Posterior pituitary (c) Posterior hypothalamus (d) Anterior hypothalamus
22. Exposure of the body to subnormal temperature can lead to …
23. What is the effect of an antipyretic?
Reduce fever
24. The volume of blood pumped by the heart during one minute is called….
Cardiac output
25. What is the normal pulse rate of an infant?
26. The phase of respiration in which gases move in and out of the lungs is ….
27. What is the normal partial pressure of carbon dioxide in arterial blood? (mm Hg)
28. What is the equipment that indirectly measures arterial oxygen saturation?
Pulse Oximeter
29. What is the term used to denote regular, abnormally slow respirations?
30. What technique of assessment helps to determine ketoacidosis?
31. Inflammation of skin at base of nail is?
32. The condition in which both eyes do not focus on an object simultaneously is known as?
33. The most effective way to break the chain of infection is by?
Hand hygiene
34. How many drops in a standard drip set makes one ml.?
35. The prescription orders 0.125 mg digoxin orally. Tablets containing 0.25 mg is available. How many tablets will you administer?
36. A patient who is receiving intravenous fluids develops tenderness, warmth, erythema and pain at the infusion site. Which of the following conditions will you suspect?
(a) Sepsis (b) Infiltration (c) Fluid overload (d) Phlebitis
37. When providing oral hygiene to an unconscious patient, care must be taken to prevent?
38. What is the intrinsic rate of the normal A-V node?
40-60 per minute
39. Which of the following structures is the pacemaker of the heart?
(a) S-A node (b) Septum (c) A-V node (d) Bundle of His
Ans: S-A node
40. The prescription is for two tablespoons of milk of magnesia. How many ml. will you give?
30 ml
41. Which of the following is intravascular fluid?
(a) Lymph (b) Pleural fluid (c) Plasma (d) Synovial fluid
Ans: Plasma
42. If the serum potassium level is less than normal, the condition is known as –
43. What electrolyte abnormality is likely to develop in a patient with vomiting?
44. How much sodium is normally present in the extra cellular fluid? (in MEq/L).
45. What is the primary cause of hyperkalemia?
Renal failure
46. Which of the following is an isotonic solution?
(a)Lactated Ringers (b) Half –Normal Saline (c) One-third Normal Saline
(d) Mannitol
Ans: Lactated Ringers
47. Thousand ml. of Normal Saline is to be infused in 8 hours. What should be the rate of flow per minute?
30 drops
48. A patient admitted with vomiting, has the following arterial blood gas levels-pH 7.30; PaCO2 36 mm Hg; Pa O2 92mm Hg; and HCO3 18; what is the acid-base imbalance that is present?
Metabolic acidosis
49. Which of the following is a first-line drug used for pain management?
(a)Acetaminophen (b) Clonidine (c) Morphine (d) Ketamine
Ans: Acetaminophen
50. Which of the following is the organism that causes peptic ulcer disease?
(a) Staphylococcus (b) Coryne bacterium (c) Helicobacter pylori
(d) Streptococcus.
Ans: Helicobacter pylori
51. Which of the following nutrients helps for tissue repair?
(a)Vitamin (b) Fat (c) Carbohydrate (d) Protein
Ans: Protein
52. Microscopic examination of urine reveals elevated levels of red blood cells. What does it indicate?
Damage to Glomeruli.
53. Which of the following patient activities helps to relax the external anal sphincter, while administering enema?
(a)Separating the buttocks (b) Lubricating the catheter tip
(c)Inserting the catheter slowly (d) Breathing out through the mouth.
Ans: Breathing out through the mouth.
54. What length of the catheter tip should be inserted into the rectum, for giving enema to an adult patient?
7.5-10 cm
55. The stool discharged from an ostomy is called?
56. Which of the following is the best method to confirm placement of the nasogastric tube:
(a) Checking patient's ability to talk (b) Aspiration of intestinal content
(c) Introducing air and auscultating (d) X-ray of chest and abdomen
Ans: X-ray of chest and abdomen
57. Which of the following is a common cause of orthostatic hypotension in a bedridden Patient?
(a)Increased autonomic response (b) Decreased circulating blood volume
(c) Increased cardiac output (d) Decreased blood pooling
Ans: Decreased circulating blood volume.
58. Which of the following body parts has a condyloid joint?
(a) Shoulder (b) Elbow (c) Wrist (d) Forearm
Ans: Wrist
59. Who was the first president of the International Council of Nurses?
60. Which of the following minerals should be taken by a child suffering from rickets?
(a)Potassium (b) Calcium (c) Sodium (d) Iron
Ans: Calcium
61. Who introduced antiseptic spray during surgery?
Joseph Lister
62. A large infection made up of several boils is known as :
63. Which of the following drugs will be administered to treat anaphylaxis?
(a) Atropine (b) Sodium bicarbonate (c) Digoxin (d) Epinephrine
Ans: Epinephrine
64. Which of the following is a vesicant drug?
(a)Dactinomycin (b) Morphine (c) Azithrocin (d) Voveran
Ans: Dactinomycin
65. Pain caused by damage to somatic tissue is known as –
66. Which of the following immunoglobulin are responsible for anaphylactic reactions?
(a) IgA (b) IgE (c) IgM (d) IgG
Ans: IgE
67. The separation and disruption of previously joined wound edges is termed as?
68. What types of dressing is Duoderm?
69. The role of the complement system in opsonization affects which response of the inflammatory process?
70. Contractures frequently occur after burn healing because of ….?
Excess fibrous tissue formation.
71. Association between HLA antigens and diseases is most commonly found in what disease conditions?
Autoimmune diseases.
72. What is the most common cause of secondary immunodeficiencies?
73. If a person is having an acute rejection of a transplanted organ, which of the following drugs would most likely to be used?
(a)Tacrolimus (b) Cyclosporine (c) Cellcept (d) Daclizumab.
Ans: Daclizumab.
74. The primary difference between benign and malignant neoplasm is the ….
Characteristic of tissue invasiveness.
75. If the blood plasma has a higher osmolality than the fluid within a red blood cell, the mechanism involved in equalizing the fluid concentration is?
76. Which of the following symptoms should be watched for in a patient receiving a loop diuretic?
(a)Restlessness and agitation (b) Paresthesias. (c)Increased blood pressure
(d)Weak irregular pulse.
Ans: Weak irregular pulse.
77. Which of the following should be watched for in a patient who has just undergone a total thyroidectomy?
(a)Weight gain (b) Depressed reflexes (c) Positive chvostek sign (d) Personality changes.
Ans: Positive chvostek sign
78. Which of the following surgical procedures involves removal of a body organ?
(a) Tracheostomy (b) Laparotomy (c) Mammoplasty (d) Mastectomy.
Ans: Mastectomy.
79. The cause of arcus senilis is?
Cholesterol deposits.
80. What is the cause of presbyopia?
Inflexible lens.
81. The most appropriate technique to assess skin for temperature and moisture is ….
82. Complete absence of melanin pigment in patchy areas on a patient's hand is described as …..
83. What instruction will you give to a patient after a chemical peel?
Avoid sun exposure
84. Childhood atopic dermatitis is commonly seen in which body area?
Antecubital space.
85. Which of the following parameters is commonly used to assess adequacy of fluid replacement in a patient with burns?
Urine output.
86. Which of the following is an earliest manifestation of inadequate oxygenation?
(a) Diaphoresis (b) Cyanosis (c) Restlessness (d) Hypotension
Ans: Restlessness
87. A diagnostic procedure which involves removal of pleural fluid for analysis is :
88. Which of the following helps to identify flail chest in a patient with chest trauma:
(a)Multiple rib fractures seen in X-ray. (b)Decreased movement of chest wall
(c)Tracheal deviation (d) Paradoxic chest movement during respiration.
Ans: Paradoxic chest movement during respiration.
89. Which of the following is an intervention for a patient with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease?
(a) Pursed-lip breathing (b) Chronic steroid therapy (c) High flow oxygen
(d)High Carbohydrate diet
Ans: Pursed-lip breathing
90. Which of the following is a normal finding obtained during a lymph node palpation?
(a) Hard, fixed node (b) Firm, mobile node (c) Enlarged tender nodes
(d)Hard, nontender nodes
Ans: Firm, mobile node
91. Which is the most common type of leukemia seen in older adults?
Chronic lymphocytic.
92. The blood vessel that brings blood to the right atrium is ….
Inferior Venae Cavae
93. Which of the following conditions is caused by elevated intra ocular pressure?
(a)Glaucoma (b) Cataract (c) Strabismus (d) Myopia.
Ans: Glaucoma.
94. Which of the following is the most common pathologic finding in individuals at risk for sudden cardiac death?
(a)Aortic valve disease (b) Mitral valve disease
(c) Left ventricular dysfunction (d) Atherosclerotic heart disease
Ans: Atherosclerotic heart disease
95. Which of the following is an absolute contraindication for the use of fibrinolytic therapy?
(a) Current use of anticoagulants (b) Severe liver disease
(c) Suspected aortic dissection (d) Active peptic ulcer disease
Ans: Suspected aortic dissection
96. Which of the following drugs provide relief of anxiety and decreases both preload and after load?
(a) Amrinone (b) Morphine sulphate (c) Furosemide
Ans: Morphine sulphate
97. In a normal sinus rhythm, the measurement of an S.T.segment is …..?
0.12 seconds
98. The ECG monitor of a patient admitted with myocardial infarction shows ventricular bigeminy. What is the nurse's responsibility in this situation?
Assess the patient's response
99. What is the usual treatment of Rayanaud's Phenomenon?
Calcium Channel blockers.
100. A patient is admitted with a diagnosis of diarrhea with dehydration. What could be the cause of increased peristalsis resulting in diarrhea?
Parasympathetic stimulation.


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Tuesday, October 20, 2009
Galbraith's "Last Taboo": 84 - 0
At the New America Foundation, James Galbraith, Randall Wray and Timothy Bartik offer their policy proposals for dealing with the jobs crisis. These three gentlemen apparently believe that the jobs crisis is merely a symptom of some mysterious financial or structural crisis that itself needs to be addressed by "better government regulation" or something like that there.
How to treat the symptom? Spend money! Bartik advocates a New Jobs Tax Credit and wage subsidies targeting 'disadvantaged' workers. Wray promotes his version of Hyman Minsky's Job Guarantee idea. Galbraith offers a laundry list of good things the government can spend money on: public sector jobs, higher education, early retirement, weatherizing houses, elder care, rehabilitating foreclosed houses, funding non-profits and last but not least a federal jobs pool such as Wray also advocates.
Galbraith calls the Job Guarantee idea "the last taboo". He is wrong. The last taboo is something none of the three mention: work time reduction. In French it is "la solution interdite." Ironically, Jamie's "last taboo" comment brings to mind his father's more salient insight about "the forbidden question" of resource conservation from some fifty years ago.
Government spending on all those nice things is all very well and good... as long as you don't have to worry about an exit strategy. The spending cure also ignores the real nature of the jobs crisis. Unemployment is not a symptom of the financial crisis. The financial crisis is a symptom of the employment crisis. To put it as simply as possible, industrial economies have failed to collectively adjust the hours of work to reflect the new realities of much higher levels of productivity.
Standard full-time hours of work have remained static over the last 30 years even as productivity has almost doubled in the last 30 years -- an increase of 84 percent -- while average weekly hours have fallen only 7 percent, notwithstanding sectoral and demographic changes in the workforce that have increased the incidence of part-time employment from 16.3 percent of the workforce in 1979 to 19.7 percent in 2009.
Most hours of work adjustment has taken place has been at an individual level rather than a collective one. That is to say more unemployment and underemployment. And this increasing precariousness of work has acted as a drag on wages. Adjusted for inflation, hourly wages have remained virtually flat. In today's dollars, the average hourly wage in September 1979 was three cents higher than the average wage today.
Let me repeat that: an 84 percent increase in hourly labor productivity and a 0 percent increase in hourly wages. WHAT PART OF 84 - 0 DO BARTIK, WRAY AND GALBRAITH NOT UNDERSTAND?
So, how did all the extra stuff get bought? Credit. Personal debt mushroomed over the last 30 years. Bartik, Wray and Galbraith's solution to the collapse of a debt-bubble is... wait for it... DEBT! Undoubtedly, some government deficit spending may be necessary to lubricate the transition. But deficits sufficient to prop up employment cannot go on forever. With Bartik's, Wray's and Galbraith's non-solutions, huge deficits would have to continue indefinitely.
Growth is not the answer. Thirty years of debt-fueled economic growth has eroded the job-creating capacity of growth. In hindsight, we would be a lot better off if workers had taken half of the productivity gains of the last 30 years in shorter working time. With a four-day workweek and a six-hour day, workers could have had roughly the same incomes they had in 1979. That's not a feasible policy solution right now. It takes time to make the adjustment. Any and all of the policy prescriptions offered by Bartik, Wray and Galbraith may be useful during the transition. But put forward as stand-alone cures, they are worthless. A spending policy without an exit strategy is like applying a band-aid where a tourniquet -- and then restorative surgery -- is needed.
34 comments:
A couple of questions: First, is it an either/or? For instance, why not a right to a job and a shorter work week? Second, is the overall increase in wealth combined with stagnation of wages (or even a reduction of wages in real terms) an anomaly? The U. S. did not experience it for some time after WWII, but isn't keeping wages at the bottom close to subsistence the general situation in civilization? If so, mightn't a minimum wage indexed to mean GDP per person be part of the remedy?
Thanks. :)
- October 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM
- Sandwichman said...
Min, In response to your first question, I address that in my penultimate paragraph. Various and sundry remedial programs offered by Bartik, Galbraith and Wray are probably needed during a transition. They could also continue to be useful as supplements to a core policy. Second question, as far as I know the extent and duration of the wage stagnation and hours plateau -- 30 years -- is unprecedented in the industrial age. Unprecedented.
There would be no need to index a minimum wage to GDP so long as hours of work progressively decline because that would remove the "lash of unemployment."
- October 20, 2009 at 5:03 PM
"Unemployment is not a symptom of the financial crisis. The financial crisis is a symptom of the employment crisis. To put it as simply as possible, industrial economies have failed to collectively adjust the hours of work to reflect the new realities of much higher levels of productivity."
- October 20, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Why not reduce military spending and raise taxes(VAT,income tax,estate tax,Tobin tax)to pay for what Galbraith and the others have suggested?
- October 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
- Sandwichman said...
I'm going to delete comments when they descend into name calling. Not only is it "not polite" to throw around politically-charged and misleading epithets. It's a distraction and a real conversation stopper.
- October 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM
"Not only is it "not polite" to throw around politically-charged and misleading epithets."
That's your problem: you are too polite! LOL
How can you explain the propensity to rely on government debt and spending, and the general policy of permanent economic expansion without reference to the ideological roots of the viewpoint?
These people have never seen a problem government spending couldn't fix, nor a program that could not be expanded.
Would dirigiste be obscure enough?
- October 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Many thanks, Sandwichman! :)
And yes, I had a lot of pre-industrial history in mind.
- October 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM
You can either use my word for it, or this one:
"Then we have the internationalist tendency represented by the large banks, the Federal Reserve Board, Treasury and White House, who like the leaders of the EU advocate a socialist and proudly statist perspective where banks are "too big to fail" and under the table subsidies to well-connected institutions are encouraged. Whereas in the 1800s the New York banks advocated hard money and sound banks, and the inflationists where among the agrarian populist ranks, today it is Washington, Paris and Berlin, among the largest dealer banks and their political allies, that are found advocates of inflation and public sector debt."
Here: http://us1.institutionalriskanalytics.com/pub/IRAstory.asp?tag=389
Socialist? Internationalist? I prefer my term.
- October 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM
- firstname.lastname@example.com said...
We have debated this before, and it was unresolved, but the hard bottom line is that you have not made the case previously and you do not make it here that a too long work week is what underlies the problem of financial crisis. However, it is pretty clear that the financial crisis certainly is responsible for our current bout of much higher unemployment.
Key to our previous round on this was your claim that a shorter work week would entail greater income inequality and less money going to the rich for speculation. While there are weak cross-sectional correlations between per capita income, income equality, and shorter working hours per worker, these relations are weak, and not sufficient to justify a claim that moving to, say, a 30 hour work week would stabilize financial markets. The propensity to bubble is very strong, as has been established very clearly in economic experiments.
- October 21, 2009 at 2:28 AM
- Sandwichman said...
One thing I do know for sure is that the sentence "there is evidence" is not itself evidence. You say, "there are weak cross-sectional correlations." Show me the correlations. Explain why they are weak. Hopefully, that weakness is not just an artifact of some static, simplified assumptions that went in at the front end of the GIGO processor. Intuitively, it does seem unlikely and odd that cross-sectional correlations could prove anything about an essentially evolutionary historical (that is to say, not a mechanical) process. If they do show that there is not a mechanical relationship, then they've shown nothing because the argument was never that there is a mechanical relationship.
You say, "Key to our previous round on this was your claim that a shorter work week would entail greater income inequality." Well, if you re-read that sentence you'll see that you've said the opposite of what you intended to say. My claim is, of course, that shorter hours reduce income inequality. So if you say "greater" when you mean less, how do I know you don't think "weak" when you see strong???
But at any rate, Barkley, the nature of a debate is not that I will persuade you of something or you will persuade me. So statements from either you or I about whether or not one or the other of us has "made his case" are strictly rhetorical.
This week and next I am putting the finishing touches on the first draft of my "political economy of working less". If you care to have a look at that you would see that my disdain for the finality of "weak cross-sectional correlations" is much more than a debating ploy but proceeds from a fundamental methodological and historical critique.
There is a long history and tradition in political economy of resisting, ignoring and suppressing strong evidence for work-time reduction and promoting and repeating ad nauseum claims for which there is weak or no evidence whatsoever. So one must pay at least as much attention in the discourse to the weak/strong, greater/lesser Freudian slips as one does to the reported cross-sectional correlations. Statements of the logical type, "A is not equal to B; therefore A is equal to B" occur with amazing regularity at strategic moments in the polemic against work time reduction. Not once. Not twice. Endemically.
- October 21, 2009 at 11:59 AM
- TheTrucker said...
Anonymous said:
"Why not reduce military spending and raise taxes(VAT,income tax,estate tax,Tobin tax)to pay for what Galbraith and the others have suggested?"
Blogger email@example.com said...
"weak cross-sectional correlations"
"it is pretty clear that the financial crisis certainly is responsible for our current bout of much higher unemployment."
"The propensity to bubble is very strong, as has been established very clearly in economic experiments."
My reaction to all this is one of "good grief".
The progressive income tax has proved to be extremely effective as a direct and enabling tool for steering the economy in a manner conducive to middle class prosperity. It can also be ab-used to steer the economy into the ditch for ideological political advantage or to grant power to the privileged. All in all this should tell us that progressive taxation is a powerful tool.
Whether such a tax mechanism remains as effective in a more global economy may be questionable but the history and the data tell us that it certainly has been.
As to the cause of the current crises I have little doubt. (That may mean that I haver a religious attachment to my own version of the truth). When it is possible for the very rich to remain rich and get richer by placing money into government protected interest bearing havens as opposed to paying their taxes then you are going to get exactly what we have in the way of wage stagnation. And as to bubbles, they are caused by ridiculously low levels of taxation on gains from asset price appreciation.
How this ties to the hours of work is somewhat inverted I think, because I also believe that productivity gains are _NOT_ being properly distributed in the society and that the work week should have been getting shorter and the participation rate lower as moms (or dads) took care of the home and the kids while the other partner did/does the bacon thing. It might be that the participation rate could/would/should rise as the partners take turns within the week working outside the home.
Higher rates of taxation on extreme incomes (incomes over a million dollars a year with rates increasing to where we are talking about 80% on income over 80 million or so) with preferential treatment to _true_ "capital gains" (not FIRE) will have encouraged more actual investment and productivity. So tax proceeds increase and employment opportunities also. That isn't a guess or a theory. The history and the data say it is a fact.
Social insurance systems are best managed by government and not by the private sector and GM is a shining illustration of why that is so. Such anecdotal "evidence" proves nothing. But it does illustrate.
- October 21, 2009 at 5:21 PM
- firstname.lastname@example.com said...
Miswrote on shorter work week and inequality. Meant opposite.
Provided some studies earlier, but out of town and not going to go dredging all that up again here and now. So, let me ask this. France is the most recent case of a country that shortened the work week. Did equality increase and did the unemployment rate go down? Near as I can tell the answer to both is basically "no."
- October 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM
- Tim said...
Several points:
1. We need to distinguish between dealing with the current unemployment crisis and dealing with our long-term labor market problems. Some policy solutions may do both, but many may be more appropriate only as short-term solutions, or only as long-term solutions.
2. The current unemployment crisis is severe enough that we need to explore a variety of solutions. Work-sharing should be considered. Public service jobs should be considered. Some sort of employer tax credit for new job creation should be considered. Counter-cyclical revenue sharing should be considered. The issue for all of these is : what job creation impact are they likely to have, and at what cost.
3. Dean Baker recently has an interesting policy brief at CEPR that presents some numbers on work-sharing as a solution to the short-term unemployment crisis. My colleague Sue Houseman at the Upjohn Institute has an article with Katherine Abraham in our July newsletter that looks at short-time compensation via the UI system as a way of encouraging work sharing.
4. As for work-sharing and our long-term economic problems, I am less convinced than the Sandwichman seems to be that work-sharing is "the answer" to our long-term economic problems. I think this claim requires a high standard of proof, as most deeply rooted economic and social problems do not permit one "answer". I do think there is merit in trying to move towards shorter annual work hours as in much of Western Europe, not so much because it solves our long-term economic problems, but because it would increase the quality of life.
Tim Bartik
Senior Economist, Upjohn Institute
- October 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM
- Sandwichman said...
I've answered the question on France several times in the past but since you're out of town and have already made up you mind on what you think the answer is, I "am not going to go dredging all that up again here and now". Google Anders Hayden. Or search "lunatic scheme" on EconoSpeak.
First, thanks very much for responding here. Yes, I agree strongly that there is a difference between the short-term emergency needs of the labor force and long-term adjustment. That's an important point and is why I said at the end of my post that "any and all" of the policies suggested by you, Jamie and Randall needed to be considered during the transition to a long-term adjustment.
Second, I am very pleased to hear about Houseman and Abraham's article and look forward to reading it. I've been promoting Dean's proposal since he first mooted it last January. So far, I've been disappointed to see very little response to it from other economists but am encouraged that you find it interesting.
Finally, let me be clear about "panaceas". I don't view work time reduction as "the answer" except to the extent that it has, in recent decades, been systematically excluded from policy discourse and thus its absence has become a bottleneck obstructing other necessary reforms.
Thanks again for responding and I hope we can continue the dialogue.
- October 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM
- TheTrucker said...
Blogger Tim said...
"I do think there is merit in trying to move towards shorter annual work hours as in much of Western Europe, not so much because it solves our long-term economic problems, but because it would increase the quality of life."
If economics is not about improving the quality of life then what good is it?
- October 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM
- firstname.lastname@example.com said...
I did not revisit the income distribution issue, which we duked it out over previously, but I did just do a quick google scan on France and the impact of the shorter work week, while it lasted. The consensus of all the reports I looked at was that it had no impact at all on any increased hiring, none, rien.
I am not necessarily against some reduction of the length of the work week, but like Tim Bartik it looks more defensible to me on grounds of quality of life, not on resolving unemployment, much less such larger scale issues as business cycles or financial market instability or distribution of income and wealth, none of which it seems to tied to in any serious way. The quality of life issue is important as there seems to have been some trend in the US to working hours lengthening with inceased stress resulting.
In any case, reducing working hours might help some with some problems, but it is nowhere near being "The Solution" that you tout it to be.
- October 22, 2009 at 6:03 PM
- LaJeunesse said...
Dear Sandwichman:
Kudos on keeping us focused on the heart of matter! You seem to grasp the "Macroeconomic" issue better than many Post-Keynesians. They would do well to revisit the work of the Institutionalists (like Ayres) or the Marxians (like Gillman) on policies to absorb the "uninvestible surplus". This is where the "macroeconomics" of work time become important and your analysis of wages vis-à-vis productivity supports the fact that the surplus has grown so large that it is increasingly difficult to absorb it –hence the jobless recovery. Of course on some scale we could use tax and transfer policies to redistribute incomes, but that would result in massive growth in the size of the market economy, perpetuating the work and spend treadmill while doing little to address the labor market segmentation that is the source of the problem.
I do agree with the Post-keynesians/Chartalists that the government is not fiscally constrained, but that doesn't mean we should use public debt chasing rainbows. Japan offers a good case in point. They have erected all kinds of infrastructure of questionable social and ecological merit in an effort to kick-start the economy for more than a decade. Moreover, despite a six-fold increase in GDP since WWII, life satisfaction (happiness) is the unchanged. Which begs the "Trucker's" pregnant question, "What is an economy good for?"
As for the shibboleth of "look at France," when I do so I find that unemployment in the US NOW EXCEEDS THAT OF FRANCE! When job preservation is included in the metrics, the merit of work-sharing is patent. The emerging evidence from Short Time Compensation experiments in 17 US states also supports this and I hope the Upjohn research will document it. Of greater relevance to the debate - given that France's 35-hour program never reduced average hours very much - is short hours Netherlands where unemployment is one-third of the US and quite stable. We should all be looking to the Dutch economy for macroeconomic solutions and the distinguishing feature is the shortest average workweek in the developed world.
- October 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM
- Sandwichman said...
email from Jamie Galbraith, posted with permission:
Dear Mr. Walker,
My response is similar in spirit to Tim Bartik's. However, I'm quite happy to have your endorsement of the measures I suggest on a "during transition" -- or any other -- basis. Better a half-hearted endorsement than none at all.
Your claim about wages and productivity is clearly overstated. This is because, as you recognize, your measure of the wage share excludes the rising value and share (in total wages) of medical and other benefits. These represent transfers (in part) from the healthy to the sick, though also (in part) from medical consumers to medical producers. But since any one of us can get sick, and since medical care has clearly improved, it is clearly incorrect to argue that *none* of the rising share of health care should be counted toward the average wage.
I could further make further comments on your 84-0 claim if I knew what you comparing with what. Average hourly productivity to average hourly wages? Or average productivity and *median* wages? You don't say. If the latter, the changing structure of jobs, and of the labor force, are both relevant. *Median* wages can remain stagnant as the labor force grows younger and tilts toward service jobs held by women, minorities and new immigrants. All of which has, of course, happened. Claims made without regard to these composition effects are also overstated and unreliable.
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- October 22, 2009 at 6:55 PM
- Sandwichman said...
Dear Professor Galbraith,
Thanks very much for your reply. Indeed, as you say, "better a half-hearted endorsement than none at all," which is why I took exception to the absence of any discussion whatsoever of short-time compensation or work time reduction in the policy round table piece for NAF. See, however, Tim's comment on my blog article in which he refers to Dean Baker's proposal as "interesting" and mentions the article in the July Upjohn newsletter by Abraham and Houseman titled, "Short-Time Compensation Is a Missing Safety Net for U.S. Economy in Recessions".
Admittedly my blog reference to the average wage and hourly productivity is "simplistic." My numbers by the way, come from the St. Louis Fed (I can look up the time series and you can double check them, if you want) and the wage figure is mean wage. As I mentioned in my earlier reply to you, the question of actual benefit to the employee from employer-paid benefits is clouded by the health consequences of overwork. Health Canada has done research on the costs to the health care system of stress from overwork. Assessing the net benefit of "benefits" would no doubt be a wonderful topic for a PhD. dissertation.
Another issue I didn't address is the extent of health care coverage 30 years ago and today. Has the average cost gone up even as the percentage of people covered has gone down? If so, if we're talking about increasing inequality in benefit coverage, is the escalation in average costs as good a thing as you imply? We also have the matter of people paying into pension funds and then... whooops... bankruptcy! no pension. So there could even be a portion of that average wage that the employee never receives. It's complicated.
For the purpose of a blog post, the fact that average wages haven't gone up in 30 years is itself significant. So, even if my claim is "overstated" (and I'm not sure we could prove that one way or the other) it is nevertheless correct and I'll just have to trust my readers to make their own judgments about the importance of the compensation v. wage question. Of course, from the standpoint of employers, total compensation costs are what matters. But I wasn't looking at it from the employers' perspective.
In terms of composition and demographics, off the top of my head the employment ratio in the US of over-55 (and thus presumably more experienced and better paid) people has gone up significantly in the last 30 years. Meanwhile, the US now has an unprecedentedly low employment ratio for 16-24 year olds. On the negative side, the workforce participation of women is much higher and women have traditionally earned lower wages than men. But the gender gap is the explanation for the absence of wage growth then persistence of that gap is not exactly grounds for celebration. And so it goes.
And productivity? Where to begin, huh? In my heart of hearts, I just can't put a lot of faith in a number that includes as "output" all kinds of questionable financial "services" and military-industrial "goods". But maybe if we weren't producing so much toxic crap, the same industrial capacity could be turned to producing worthwhile stuff. I think some guy wrote a book about that fifty years ago or so.
For the sake of comparison regarding the degree of "overstatement and reliability" of my average wage and productivity comparisons, who would you say is closer to what matters here, me or Brian Griffiths, who is quoted in a Bloomberg article yesterday, "We have to tolerate the inequality as a way to achieve greater prosperity and opportunity for all."? Notwithstanding the above points in rebuttal, I would welcome your posting your criticisms of my methodology as a comment to the Econoblog article.
Best regards,
Tom Walker
- October 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM
- Sandwichman said...
commenter LaJeunesse above is Robert LaJeunesse, author of Work Time Regulation as Sustainable Full Employment Strategy, published by Routledge in March of this year. His book contains a comparative assessment of job guarantees, such as advocated by Wray and Galbraith, and work time regulation (pp. 125-156) as well as a chapter on the employment effects of work time reduction (pp. 192-232).
Barkley, may I suggest that the research done by Robert and by Anders Hayden trumps "a quick google scan on France" but I guess that's just my prejudice for 'qualitative' v. 'quantitative' research.
- October 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM
- Sandwichman said...
I wrote, "as a comment to the Econoblog article."
Whoops... that should have been EconoSpeak, of course.
- October 22, 2009 at 7:18 PM
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Have not read these last folks you mention. Netherlands has many differences with US in policy. My understanding of France is that the shorter work week was seriously undone in 2005, so it is the period before then that matters, and there appears to have been little reduction of unemployment then.
Many observers would say that the recent better performance of France vis a vis the US looks like Canada's: both more seriously regulated their banks and thus did not get into as much trouble with the financial crisis, the issue Galbraith has top and center, although you have suggested it is subsidiary to your focus.
- October 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM
- firstname.lastname@example.com said...
Have not read these last folks you mention. Netherlands has many differences with US in policy. My understanding of France is that the shorter work week was seriously undone in 2005, so it is the period before then that matters, and there appears to have been little reduction of unemployment then.
Many observers would say that the recent better performance of France vis a vis the US looks like Canada's: both more seriously regulated their banks and thus did not get into as much trouble with the financial crisis, the issue Galbraith has top and center, although you have suggested it is subsidiary to your focus.
- October 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM
- Sandwichman said...
The macroeconomic estimates cited by Anders Hayden fall between 300,000 and 500,000 jobs attributed to the work time reduction. I believe I've mentioned this before.
The problem for these kinds of estimates, as you should realize, is how to isolate the effects of the policy from other factors that might be affecting employment.
According to Hayden,
"France's unemployment rate fell from 12.2 percent in 1997, when the 35-hour week was announced, to an eighteen-year low of 8.6 percent in the spring of 2001, before rising back up above 9 percent by the time the laws were first amended."
These were "the biggest job gains of any four-year period in twentieth century France."
But... how much can be attributed to the 35-hour workweek? How much to generic "growth"? Well, between 1986 and 1990, the last period of sustained growth, GDP grew an average of 3.6% annually and employment growth averaged 1.5%. From mid-1997 to mid-2001, the economy grew at a 3.3% rate but jobs grew at 2.7% annually. That's about twice as much job-growth bang for the buck.
Now, there were all sorts of problems with the Aubry Laws and the work-time reduction was watered down in response to business resistance, so the estimated job gains didn't meet the government's original goal of 750,000 jobs.
As is the habit of the American and British press, they repeated incessantly the claim (usually not even bothering to cite any studies because, "it's a known fact") that no jobs were created or that the 35-hour work week was a miserable failure. Which makes one wonder why the French took to the streets to protest efforts at dismantling the legislation. One of the favorite put downs was to compare the pitiful French record with the marvelous American job-creating engine. What is there to show today for the American bubble-jobs?
Anyway, I sent you a copy of the Hayden article by email and, as the saying goes, "if you want any more you can bake it yourself."
Anyone else wants the article, you'll have to download it yourself:
- October 22, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Galbraith is pissing in your milk and calling it breakfast. His response is no response at all.
As to Mr. Bartik's response:
Who the hell is talking about work sharing? What about we are tired of being slaves, and tired of you thinking up new ways for us to spend our time slaving away.
Do you not understand that forums on unemployment are a perversity? Who in their right mind tries to create work when there is no economic demand for more work. Do you have a fetish for renting yourself out to Citi Bank?
Get a clue, dude. It is not our life goal to shift from one meaningless task to another to the benefit of Wall Street.
- October 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM
Bartik: "Public service jobs should be considered."
Can you honestly say that this statement isn't fascist? That rather than reducing hours of work, we should be impressed our youth into some national work gang? Dress it up all pretty and call it national service.
The Messiah's volunteers???
(Idle hands are the Devil's workshop, don't you know)
My God these people need to be slapped!!!!!
You delete this if you want, but you know I am right.
- October 23, 2009 at 8:26 AM
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I looked at the paper you sent. Policy being "annnounced" and put in place are quite different. According to the chart, most of that UR decline preceded actual implementation, and when it came in, the UR was lower than for most of the period the law was in place. I think you are seriously misrepresenting things here, which also makes your personal attacks on Jamie Galbraith although the more indefensible. Clean up your act, please,
- October 23, 2009 at 1:59 PM
- Sandwichman said...
Well, that's the last time I bother to send Barkley a paper so he can cherry pick some random qualification out of it and use it to make bogus charges about misrepresentation.
I have repeatedly pointed out the difficulty of making unambiguous claims about the results of the 35-hour work week while Barkley has repeatedly made "absolute" claims about failure based on vague impressions gained from quick google searches.
I have made no "personal attacks on Jamie Galbraith." I've criticized his narrow policy focus.
It would be interesting clinically to know why Barkley feels so threatened by an idea that he often has said holds no particular interest for him. Let's assume (aside from the fact that I've researched this topic extensively) that I'm mistaken. Would that be grounds for Barkley to question my good faith for holding the views I do? I don't think so. But Professor Rosser charges that I am "seriously misrepresenting things", that I am making "personal attacks on Jamie Galbraith" and that my postings on EconoSpeak are "indefensible".
And he has the nerve to tell me to "clean up my act"? I'm afraid someone needs to talk to a therapist.
I had it with your bullshit, Rosser. Stick a fork it.
- October 23, 2009 at 3:15 PM
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I am having bad email connections here so difficulty getting on. Looked at paper more closely. Graph seems to show that Aubry I came in 1998 when UR at around 11.5%. This fell to 8.6% in 2001, then up to around 10.2% in 2005 when law mostly reversed, which was followed by about a 1% decline the following year.
During period of decline by 3% in France, Germany declined by 2%. So, maybe the cut in working hours reduced the UR by about 1%, maybe a bit more. Hayden does say the policy was mostly a "success," mostly on quality of life grounds. He also notes some pressure on low wage workers to work harder, so indeed, mixed results.
Otherwise, Tom, I think you are overreacting. You like to dish it out, but you do not seem willing to take it when someone says that you are dishing it out too hard.
- October 23, 2009 at 7:15 PM
- email@example.com said...
I am having bad email connections here so difficulty getting on. Looked at paper more closely. Graph seems to show that Aubry I came in 1998 when UR at around 11.5%. This fell to 8.6% in 2001, then up to around 10.2% in 2005 when law mostly reversed, which was followed by about a 1% decline the following year.
During period of decline by 3% in France, Germany declined by 2%. So, maybe the cut in working hours reduced the UR by about 1%, maybe a bit more. Hayden does say the policy was mostly a "success," mostly on quality of life grounds. He also notes some pressure on low wage workers to work harder, so indeed, mixed results.
Otherwise, Tom, I think you are overreacting. You like to dish it out, but you do not seem willing to take it when someone says that you are dishing it out too hard.
- October 23, 2009 at 7:16 PM
- email@example.com said...
I am having bad email connections here so difficulty getting on. Looked at paper more closely. Graph seems to show that Aubry I came in 1998 when UR at around 11.5%. This fell to 8.6% in 2001, then up to around 10.2% in 2005 when law mostly reversed, which was followed by about a 1% decline the following year.
During period of decline by 3% in France, Germany declined by 2%. So, maybe the cut in working hours reduced the UR by about 1%, maybe a bit more. Hayden does say the policy was mostly a "success," mostly on quality of life grounds. He also notes some pressure on low wage workers to work harder, so indeed, mixed results.
Otherwise, Tom, I think you are overreacting. You like to dish it out, but you do not seem willing to take it when someone says that you are dishing it out too hard.
- October 23, 2009 at 7:19 PM
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I apologize for this last multiple posting. Due to internet problems, not intentional.
I also apologize to anyone who has found my recent tone overdone or inappropriate.
- October 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM
- Peggy said...
I have no idea who Tom Walker is other than someone who eats or sells sandwiches whom I discovered, praise be to Tim Berner-Lee, on the w w w. I am relieved to see that some economists whose names I have read are debating with him about the logic that if we do not find a way to ensure leisure, technological increases in the productivity of commodities that must be consumed will just have to be imprisoned. I beg them to get him 30 minutes with Obama. I hope I'm still alive when his colleagues good naturedly grudgingly nominate him for a Nobel. If so, I hope he's not too pure to take the money before it will buy less labor time than the year before.
- November 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM
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- West Yorkshire Honours Its Frontline Heroes At Awards Ceremony (15 Mar 2014)
- Cold Callers Set To Be Frozen Out In Ackworth (18 Mar 2014)
- Have you got a watch over your street? (19 Mar 2014)
- Call for sale of so called 'legal highs' to be reviewed (21 Mar 2014)
- Wakefield man ordered to pay back more than 350,000 after confiscation hearing under the Proceeds Of Crime Act (21 Mar 2014)
- Web chat on Neighbourhood Watch (25 Mar 2014)
- West Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner Response to HMIC review on domestic abuse (27 Mar 2014)
- West Yorkshire's Police and Crime Commissioner seeking independent members to sit on misconduct panels (16 Oct 2014)
- New Year resolution- become a Special Constable (29 Dec 2014)
Commissioner fund targets diversity (4 Aug 2014)
Promoting diversity in West Yorkshire is the theme behind the latest round of the Safer Communities Fund.
A third phase of grants has now officially opened, with £155,000 available for local groups and organisations.
The money has been taken from criminals under the Proceeds of Crime Act.
Applications of up to £7,500 can be submitted and will be considered by an Independent Advisory Board.
West Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner, Mark Burns-Williamson said:
"When I have visited local communities, people have told me that promoting diversity and tackling hate related crime are among their key priorities.
"This is reflected in my refreshed Police and Crime Plan and is the reason why I have selected it as the theme for this latest bidding round.
"Only last weekend, I attended the Gay Pride event in Leeds where I undertook street surveys and spoke to people on a one to one basis. It was clear that funding levels for local groups was an area of particular interest.
"Every applicant must show how they work to encourage diversity within their neighbourhood, ensuring people are safe and feel safe.
"The closing date for submissions for this round of the Safer Communities Fund is 5th September 2014.
"Already dozens of local groups and organisations have received money from the fund since it was launched in February, totalling £412,000.
"This is making a tangible difference to people's lives and I intend to ensure the focus remains upon issues which mean the most to our communities.
"There has been unprecedented interest throughout the campaign and I want to see more groups and organisations realise these potential benefits."