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|December 30, 1998, 04:15 PM
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Very interesting thread. This is something I've thought about often. I'm a "dog person." I've been around dogs all my life. My first advice is *don't run*. Unless the dog/s are far away and you have a safe place close at hand you will be caught. I've ran with dogs alot and except for very small dogs they can out run me easily and I'm not slow. Also, running triggers thier chase instinct. They become more determined to hunt you down. Instead of running use whatever time you have to draw or look for a weapon and get your back up against something. Make yourself as big and threatening as possible. If there's more than one there'll be a lead dog who'll be the one likely to attack first. Yell and threaten him with whatever you have in your hands even if its just waving your shirt. Against untrained/feral dogs this *may* work to put them to flight. If not the previously mentioned technique of grabbing them with both hands by the loose flesh around the neck can work. Grabbing thusly and swinging them around into whatever backstop you've (hopefully) found could work. IMO, the technique of giving the dog your forearm and putting your other arm on his neck and rolling to snap his neck has very little chance of working. Dog's necks are strong and thier spines are too flexable. They'll just twist around while holding onto your arm doing tons of dammage. Better off going for an eye gouge/grab and hope it lets go and runs away. Personally, I carry pepper spray and a knife and would employ these in a dog attack.
I ran afoul of a dog pack once in Ensenada, Mexico. It was a pack of about 10 feral dogs. Me and two buddies were drinking on the beach when we saw this dog pack coming. Luckily we were next to a rock jetty. We climbed up and scrambled down to the end. The dogs circled around the beach end but couldn't get up the rocks. They ran around on the beach barking for awhile then left.
I was also attacked by a pack of coyotees while camping in the local mountains. I had my dog with me, a little terrier mutt. He chased all of them off except one that ran to attack me. I grabbed a tree branch that happened to be on the ground and as the coyote approached I raised it over my head and yelled. The coyote thought better of attacking me and turned and ran. Both times I was lucky but hey, I'd rather be lucky than good.
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|December 31, 1998, 02:45 PM
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MMN, some excellent comnments. Survival is mindset. Knowledge helps, but without the mindset " I will survive " knowledge may not be enough. George
|December 31, 1998, 08:49 PM
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The comments about yelling and making yourself look as big as possible sound right on - since dogs would seldom hear humans howling and carrying on like that, I imagine it would have significant shock effect.
SPEED is a big factor here as well - not only running, but also fighting. At least from my point of view, I have been absolutely amazed at how quickly dogs can fight / bite. I saw a dog fight once, between one 'bad boy' stray and four others. The 'bad boy' started it, and the four tried to finish it. The 'bad boy' got on his hind legs, put his back against a parked motorcycle, and took care of business - in about 5 - 10 seconds. All I could see was a blur of teeth and blood. The 'bad boy' won.
Unless I'm well armed and ready, I'll still climb the tree or otherwise escape. I'm sure a decent human can take one dog, but up against two attack dogs - that would be a real accomplishment. And, as I think Rob mentioned, perhaps an experience you'd have to relate to the other severely handicapped people in your hospital ward!
Let me ask another question, mentioned above in passing - stare or not stare? I was taught years ago to walk away from the dog, don't show fear, but keep the dog in your peripheral vision until you're out of its territory. I was taught that staring at the dog actually increased the chance of an attack. What do you all think?
|December 31, 1998, 09:04 PM
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In answer (supposition?) to your question, I believe eye lock with a dog has the same effect as with a human. The alpha will attack immediately, the "puffer" will make a tactical withdrawal.
Surely you've met dogs (especially little ones) who only attacked when you attempted to retreat.
As for me, perhaps I need to work a ribeye steak into my daily carry attire...it would certainly give one the opportunity to effect a leisurely pistol presentation. Heck, if you're quick enough, you might even be able to reuse the steak!
|January 2, 1999, 12:24 PM
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Staring - I agree completely with Rich. To a canine, whether it is a dog, coyote, or wolf, a hard stare is a form of a challenge. This could be enough to scare your neighbor's wimp dog off but will harden the resolve of the combat vet stray. I've seen dogs be provoked to attack just from being stared at. Just as in any fight, a non-focused watchfulness is, IMO, the way to go.
Also, in addition to my previous comment about not running (unless you have a safe place *very* close) I would suggest not turning your back and keeping your eyes on the alpha dog at all times. Seems obvious but I just want to throw it out there.
As for the steak idea, hey, why not? Seriously, though, if your walking home from the store with that grocery bag throwing down some food could get you some extra time to back off to a safe place.
|January 5, 1999, 03:54 AM
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Spectre, weight classes don't count for much when comparing humans to animals. The structure of the muscle fibers and the connections are different. This makes a VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE!!
I have raised Dobermans and Rottweilers commercially. I have been involved in Schutzund training. I also used to check out the competition's rent a dogs.
I know how Dobermans move. One on one they are not a problem to me. But this is based on intimate knowledge of the breed. The post about the guy who raised them and only gave himself a 70% chance puzzles me. I wonder if he fought with his much?
Rottweilers are another story. Love them. Don't want to mess with even a small female. I once grabbed an eighty pound female in a bear hug and fell on top of her. She got up and walked off with me holding her (I weigh about 260).
Packs? Gimme shelter. Large capacity magazines. If all else fails...smash the alpha quickly with maximum brutality(best of all possible worlds in a very poor situation).
The various breeds have very different reaction patterns, reaction times, grit, and musculature. Studying at first hand helps a lot. A Schutzhund trained dog will release you once you are down and not resisting. However, some people have trained dogs to other standards. I once had a command trained Doberman that would all out attack a pine tree if you pointed and gave the command. (I rescued her from the people who did this to her) Downside of command training is that one of these dogs will often watch its master beat to death while waiting for the command. Schutzhund type situational training is best in my opinion.
Many of these dogs work every day with no reward from their handlers and are dying for human attention. I have taken old tennis balls up to the fearsome attack dogs' domain and in a few minutes have them fetching the ball back to the gate for more fun. Think the place was very secure? If you use a guard dog...play with it regularly and DON'T let it play with anyone else. Train it not to. Also, a word about gender. Males are usually heavier, more muscular, and more aggressive. They can all be neutralized with one little bitch in heat. Females can't and are also more easily trained in my experience.
It is easy to decoy guard dogs in a fenced area. Get the attention of one and the others come. While the bad guys go in the other side. An easy solution for this is to pen a small loud barker where he can't be seen from the fence. Then when all the guard dogs gather at the disturbance...there will be one dog out of sight and raising hell. Make the BG's pause and wonder.
|January 6, 1999, 08:06 PM
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Has anyone used OC on strays, protection trained dogs, or attack trained dogs? Ed Nowicki did a video in which a protection trained dog was sprayed with OC while dog was being aggravated. Dog put tail between his legs and hid his face.
OC is not anywhere near 100% on people and often does not work on EDPs, or people who are highly motivated and/or people that are very goal oriented. I wonder if the same is true of dogs? GLV
|January 6, 1999, 08:38 PM
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My insane younger brother (14 at the time) sprayed himself with Bodyguard OC. I no longer put much faith in it...(he began crying 8 minutes later. He was never in a condition to be taken out of a conflict.)
|January 9, 1999, 11:44 PM
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IMHO, a good stick or bat will be better protection against a dog than a handgun. First of all good luch hitting an attacking dog with a pistol (a shotgun would be another story). Second, the cance of a OSS with a dog is almost nil unless you blow it's head off. Someone already mentioned a dog that took 4 shots with a .44mag to go down. How many humans do you know that could take three shots from a .44mag and still attack you? Also I recall a show on discovery or one of those channels where they were interviewing criminals to find out what they look for in stores to rob after hours. One guy said basically 'If they have a dog, never try to rob the place. A dog will easilly take two bullets from a gun and still attack you and chances are you will only get one shot off before he is on you'. YMMV of course.
|January 10, 1999, 12:41 AM
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FWIW, I shot a nutso Neighborhood Dog that had been chased from my yard with a paintball gun many times. This time he had a hold of my wife's 3 pound Maltese. It was a Mutt with some Rott in him, probably about 60 lbs. I hit it with a .40 from about 5 feet and it dropped instantly. It was an original Black Talon bullet, they were still fresh enough to have in a carry gun at the time.
(Of course, I waited until any respectable dog would've been able to have shaken the life outta that little rat of dog that my wife had.... ) It survived, but sadly (yeah right) it was crushed by a large SUV tire a year later.
|January 10, 1999, 12:23 PM
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There was a big bulldog that kept wandering around in Spartacus' yard when I was there a little over a month ago. This dog appeared to be somewhat unstable, and inclined to stalk neighbors pulling into nearby yards. He probably was about 80 lbs. In any case, I considered popping him with Spartacus' .22 Browning, but was afraid I might not have the legal basis, since he had not actually attacked anyone yet (and, this was in the city, so it would not have been "discreet")...after having this canine fruitcake prowling the yard for an hour or two, I went out there w/ a katana, not a Taiwanese POS aluminum import, either. For some reason, the bastard would not let me close w/ him...
Raven, "OSS" are bs. I used to put faith in them too, when I was younger and more ignorant. If one looks at the methodology used, it's obviously flawed. I was fortunate enough to have my initial training under one of Taylor's Combat Masters (Don Busse). The doctrine was two to COM, evaluate, failure to stop if needed. Other schools teach firing until the threat goes down, but since duty handguns are horribly underpowered I am aware of cases where "bullet sponges" absorbed whole magazines of ammo until taken out by a rifle. That is why "OSS" is bs.
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The 2013 NFL regular season ended with many exciting games which helped to finalize the first-round playoff match-ups. Here are five things we learned on Sunday:
The San Diego Chargers Are Lucky
Both Miami (8-8) and Baltimore (8-8) needed to win on Sunday for a shot at the last AFC playoff spot, but neither team could come up with a victory. The Jets (8-8) rolled over the Dolphins, 20-7, and the Bengals (11-5) handled the Ravens, 34-17. In addition to eliminating the defending Super Bowl champions, the losses opened the door for Pittsburgh (8-8), which downed Cleveland, 20-7. All the Steelers needed was for the Chargers to lose to the Chiefs.
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Aaron Rodgers Was All the Packers Needed to Win the NFC North
The Green Bay Packers (8-7-1) were less than a minute away from missing the playoffs. Enter Aaron Rodgers. The Packers' franchise quarterback, making his first start since suffering a broken collarbone on Nov. 4 against the Chicago Bears (8-8), threw a 48-yard touchdown pass to Randall Cobb with 38 seconds to play to give Green Bay a 33-28 win and the NFC North crown. Green Bay will host the 49ers next Sunday (4:40 p.m. ET).
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The NFL's two most dominant teams in 2013 — the Denver Broncos (13-3) and the Seattle Seahawks (13-3) — each clinched home-field advantage throughout their respective conference championship games with convincing victories on Sunday.
Denver routed the Raiders (4-12) in Oakland, 34-14. Broncos' quarterback Peyton Manning completed his MVP resume by throwing four more touchdown passes and running his NFL single-season record total to 55. He also set a NFL single-season record with 5,477 passing yards, eclipsing Drew Brees' record. The Broncos drew a first-round bye and won't play until the weekend of Jan. 11 and 12.
Seattle beat St. Louis (7-9) by a 27-9 count at CenturyLink Field, where some NFC team will have to win to prevent Pete Carroll's Seahawks from going to the Super Bowl. The NFC West champs looked beatable at times over the past few weeks, but they are nearly unstoppable at home, especially with quarterback Russell Wilson, running back Marshawn Lynch and a lock-down defense ready for the post-season.
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Trailing the Falcons 17-14 in the second half, Carolina (12-4) nearly let the NFC South title slip away, but Cam Newton had other plans. The Panthers' quarterback threw a 7-yard touchdown pass to Greg Olsen late in the third quarter, and the defense made it stand up for a 21-20 win. The victory assured Carolina of the No. 2 seed in the NFC and a home playoff game in two weeks. It also meant the Saints (11-5) won't play a game inside the Superdome this post-season: New Orleans plays at Philadelphia next Saturday (8:10 p.m.).
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After pulling to within two points thanks to a late 32-yard touchdown pass from backup quarterback Kyle Orton to Dez Bryant, Dallas (8-8) got the ball back with a chance to drive for a game-winning field goal. Unfortunately, Orton's first pass of the Cowboys' final drive was picked off by Brandon Boykin, giving Philadelphia (10-6) a 24-22 win and the NFC East title. The Eagles will host New Orleans this Saturday (8:10 p.m.). Orton threw for 358 yards and two scores, but it was the two interceptions, especially the last one in crunch-time, that reminded Cowboys fans all too much of Tony Romo, Dallas' star-crossed starting QB who had season-ending back surgery this week.

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Soybeans were again the upside leader finishing higher for the 10th trading day in a row. May soybean finished 10 ½ cents higher at $13.33, May corn 1 cent higher at $6.55, and May wheat 10 ½ cents higher at $6.74 ½.
The USDA announced more private sales of soybeans this morning with 120,000 MTs of old crop and 165,000 MTs of new crop (both to unknown destinations). This combined with somewhat "bullish" Informa estimates this morning may have been enough for the market to hold support. Looking at a chart of May soybeans, it looks like we settled directly on the 61.8% retracement level which is a major technical target for exit orders (see chart). This may keep some technical sell pressure on the market, especially after trading higher for the past 10 days in a row.
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Ran, April 29, 2013 in E05: Kissed by Fire
You know the drill!
Great episode!
...haven't actually seen it yet, but, still.
OK, back to what I was saying in the other thread.
1. Uh-oh Robb.
2. For those of you waiting for some Stannis development... there you go.
3. Bath scene = NAILED.
Nicely quiet, contemplative, often even haunting episode. If someone wanted to make a case for an acting emmy, this would be the episode for Madden, Dillane, and NCW.
Essentially, a really great episode on the opposite end of the spectrum from, for instance, "Blackwater", or even last week's "And Now His Watch Is Ended." The average scene length in this episode was WAY longer than we usually get. Wonderful pacing.
The Hound is badass.
Lots of naked men for our lusty ladies(and men) that have been complaining about too much female t&a.
This was a fantastic episode.
All the pieces are lining up, maybe not exactly as in the books, but all roads lead to the same outcome.
The bath scene was even better on the screen than it was on paper.
And the Hound/Beric was awesome, as well. Poor Arya. Maisie broke my heart when she asked about bringing a headless man back to life. :(
Love love love Shireen singing Patchface's rambling for the credits
I love that Patchface lives on in creepy credit song form.
I think the episode was excellent. Many exciting bits from the novel appeared, and certain parts of the story which fans have been missing, such as the absence of Arya's nightly prayer, made an appearance.
Oh, and SHIREEN. Holy creeptastic Greyscale.
And the fetuses were super creepy, as well.
No wonder Stannis wants to bang the hot red head.
Great episode! LOVED the bath scene!
Sorry for the delay in posting these threads, BTW, folks. SLipped my mind entirely. Been a long day, and still no chance to rest as I'm trying to get this recap and book-to-screen done before the west coast airing is done....
yeah that was really creepy, loved it.
Such a good episode. I'm ready to watch it again. I teared up a few times Arya & Gendry, Jamie & Brienne, Robb. And little Shireen gah she pulls my heartstrings.
I didn't like the whole Loras boinking and spilling secrets to Littlefinger's prostitute.
Also haha Jorah trying to sneakily find out if Ser Barristan Selmy knew he was feeding info about Dany to Robert's small council.
Okay...Selyse's jar collection...WTF?!?!?!
Who else teared up when Arya told Gentry that she could be his family?
Very impressed with this episode, it just seems to be getting better and better.
She was also singing it when Stannis came to her.
I also appreciate the streamlining of teaching Davos to read. Eliminates the Maester. Nicely done. Although I am a little saddened Stannis didn't order it.
Shireen did not look nearly as depressed/sickly as I expected she would. The greyscale looked nasty, but Shireen seemed cheerful. Didn't really pay attention to book Shireen, but I feel so sorry for the TV version. Dragonstone is no place for a child like that...
And Maisie Williams is the best actress on the show. Quite easily, actually. I'm a grown ass man and her scene with Thoros and Beric was getting to me.
Good episode, though. Not quite like last week's bombastic episode, but still very solid.
Shireen singing Patchface's songs <3 :') Beautiful during the credits. Impressed with the greyscale make-up too.
Loved Barristan and Jorah's exchange.
Robb signing his own death warrant :'(
Bath scene was perfect.
Loved Grey Worm.
"You know nothing Jon Sno-oooh" :bowdown: Also DAYUM Rose Leslie : - O
Tormund is disappointing me :(
Absolutely adored the Stannis stuff... the fetuses though :x
Loved this episode overall, my favorite this season, even moreso than DRACARYS.
EDIT: How could I forget Beric vs Sandor. It was awesome.
Really good. I like that the tension is building. It seems like everything is about to erupt. Jaime continues to be awesome.
I'm not sure I like Robb devising strategy with Talisa. At least they've given him some sort of plan though.
Everything else was pretty spot on though, minus Tywin suddenly changing how he pronounces Tyrell but that's a minor gripe.
Great episode, loved the duel between the Hound and Dondarrion
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BARBARA BUSH is a word that rhymes with fright.
She's right.
Asked on the "Today" show whether she thought her son Jeb should run for president in 2016, as W. has urged, the famously candid and caustic Silver Fox offered the most honest assessment of her oldest son's legacy.
Aside from the cascading disasters that the country is still struggling to recover from, a key W. legacy is derailing the path of the son Poppy and Barbara Bush dearly wanted to be president: Jeb.
For the first time, the 87-year-old former first lady acknowledged, in essence, that W. had worn out the family's welcome in the White House. "He's by far the best qualified man, but no, I really don't," she said when asked if her second son should aim to be the third Bush in chief. "I think it's a great country. There are a lot of great families, and it's not just four families or whatever. There are other people out there that are very qualified and we've had enough Bushes."
Jenna Bush Hager, a "Today" show correspondent who was a participant in the Thursday interview with her grandmother, mother and sister, blurted "Surpri-i-ise!" and threw up her arms. CNN e-mailed Jeb to find out what he thought of his mother's "priceless" comment and Jeb e-mailed back: "Priceless indeed!"
But Bar, who was also giving the back of the hand to the Clintons, spit out the truth. It is wearying that America, a country that broke away from aristocratic England in a burst of rugged individualism, has spawned so many of its own royal political families, dynasties that feel entitled to inhabit the White House, generation after generation, letting their family competitions and tensions shape policy and history to an alarming degree.
Why does a George P., Chelsea, Beau Biden, Joe Kennedy III presidential sweepstakes feel so inevitable?
There were plenty of other, less perspicacious assessments of the Bush legacy on the occasion of W.'s presidential library opening in Dallas. Josh Bolten, Bush's chief of staff in the second term, defended 43's economic record — two off-the-books, badly managed wars and more of the deregulation that led to toxic derivatives, government bailouts and a near collapse of the whole economy — saying it "really wasn't so bad."
Former Bush staffers and some on the right defended 43 in the usual debates: Was he the Decider or the Dupe? Was he smart or simplistic? The latter question is really beside the point in Washington, the capital of smart people doing dumb things.
W.'s presidency will go down in infamy because he ignored Katrina and the Constitution and cherry-picked intelligence with Tony Blair to build up a faux case for invading Iraq. That is why the three Democratic presidents who talked at his library's dedication had to cherry-pick their topics, focusing mostly on W.'s good work on AIDS in Africa.
Though he presents himself as the Batman of anti-terrorism, W. ignored the warning that Osama was going to strike and didn't catch him dead or alive. He failed to fix the egregious problems of agencies coordinating watch lists and dropping the ball on information about terrorist suspects, which flared again in the Boston bombings.
W. and other Bush officials continue to say they could not possibly have known that Saddam had no W.M.D. But I'm now told that Saddam sent word through the Saudis to the Bushies over and over that he had no W.M.D. and was only blustering to keep his nemesis in the neighborhood, Iran, at bay.
Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld weren't looking for the truth, and they weren't hitting the pause button the way President Obama is with Syria right now, sensitive to the quicksand nature of the region. They simply wanted to blast some Arabs and Saddam was a weak target, just as W. was a weak president, easily led wherever Cheney and his co-conspirator Rummy, along with their bellicose band of neocons, wanted to take him.
Obama and others praised 43 last week as "comfortable in his own skin." That's absurd. People who are comfortable in their own skin don't shape their lives and actions so self-consciously, and often self-destructively, on another. W. veered between aping his father and doing the opposite of his father.
Pressed by Charlie Rose on "CBS This Morning," W. reiterated the unfathomable fact that he went to war with the same dictator that his father did, without ever seeking his dad's counsel. "He knows," W. said of his father, "that each presidential decision requires advice from people who have studied an issue." That's quite a rationalization. Who, after all, has studied the issue more closely than another president who decided against invading Baghdad?
Sadly, no one in W.'s inner circle studied the issue. As Colin Powell has noted, there was no proper debate or meeting of the National Security Council before the invasion. W. went to war on body language, manipulated by the war-mongering gargoyles who would also bring us torture, domestic spying and secret prisons.
"I can't remember a specific incident where I called up and said, 'What do I do?' " W. said about getting advice from his level-headed dad.
And that's the shame of it.


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SHELF LIFE- Intriguing: Richard III charms and repels
This article is the last covering the Blackfriars Theater's three spring productions.
Many know these words from Shakespeare's Richard III but rarely think of them in proper context, signaling the commencement of an intriguing– if deeply troubled and corrupt– political campaign.
Indeed, few think of Shakespeare as a historian, or as having any interest in the real political struggles of his time.
In the virtual universe of Shakespearean drama, however, not even politics or history escapes the author's scrutiny or his lyrical coloring. Despite being based on actual events of England's 15th-century civil war between the House of York and the House of Lancaster, Richard III like all Shakespearean drama is a work of art meant to be entertaining rather than an authoritative scholarly treatment of the so-called "War of the Roses."
The most austere of the productions at Blackfriars this season, Richard III is nevertheless a luxury for theatergoers, offering historical insight in addition to Shakespeare's wit and word play.
But the educational reward is not easily won. One of the longest of Shakespeare's 38 plays second only to Hamlet Richard III features an immensely complicated plot, dramatizing the intricate and chaotic interactions among over 30 characters. But despite its length, the text is characterized by high-speed plot developments.
Director Joyce Peifer, like others who have tackled the play, has cut marginal plot details and characters. Still, many in the American Shakespeare Center's traveling troupe– just 11 members strong– must juggle up to three roles to pull it off. Troupe member Sarah Bowles, for example, plays a widow, a duke, and an adolescent boy. Andrew Gorell, however, plays only the role of Richard.
Richard III is the story of the rise and fall of the brutish, ambitious youngest son of the House of York who plots to capture the throne. A social and spiritual outcast cursed with physical and emotional deformities, Richard hatches a scheme to achieve his political ambitions by killing his two brothers, deceitfully courting a victim's wife, imprisoning his brother's sons, and defrauding an entire nation.
With or without familiarity with medieval history, the audience can guess how the play will end. But the intrigue is in the details, in the way the troupe choreographs the text to reveal the subtle dimensions of the title character.
Little time is wasted with preliminary character development. The play launches directly into action, presupposing the audience's general familiarity with the political figures and political climate of the day. The tone is set in the first lines, when Richard openly declares his plan: "I am determined to prove a villain/ And hate the idle pleasures of these days."
One complication of portraying the villain, Gorell says, is that "Those who commit evil acts often are aware that what they're doing is evil. There's an underlying humanity."
Gorell also notes the importance of relying solely on the text for guidance, aware that exposure to other performances of the play might have tainted his own interpretation. "The words tell me how to act," he says.
The play demands more effort from the audience than this spring's other two shows, Much Ado or Forbidden Planet, as the players provide fewer rhetorical cues than in the comedies. It's a more exhausting production to watch, since the plot depends primarily on the machinations of the title character.
If Richard's behavior seems unbelievably villainous if the evil of his personality seems exaggerated one must remember that Elizabeth I, who ruled during Shakespeare's time, was a member of the Tudor dynasty, descending from Henry VII, who succeeded the last Yorkist king. Thus Shakespeare might have felt some indirect political pressure to please her court by presenting such a portrait of Richard.
Again, there is historical continuity: while the writer may very well be at liberty to mine the political sphere for material, not even Shakespeare himself was exempt from the practical need to be politically savvy.


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All Michael Jordan wants to do is come to the City by the Bay and play, but San Francisco's laws have officials telling an American icon to butt out.
Jordan is in town for the Presidents Cup golf tournament. He has more recognition than most of the players, but he is also getting attention for his habit of smoking cigars on the links.
That is against the law in San Francisco and, famous or not, city officials are asking him to put out the cigar while on their property.
"I've already sent an e-mail to the PGA Tour director," Recreation and Park general manager Phil Ginsburg told the San Francisco Chronicle. "It was a gentle nudge reminding them that smoking is illegal and that we would appreciate their support."
Jordan lit up the stogies during Tuesdays practice rounds and it didn't take long before somebody noticed he was breaking the rules. He's here as a guest of U.S. captain Fred Couples and serves at the U.S. team co-captain.
Jordan said he will "try" to contain himself.
It may effect his game though. John Madden says Jordan usually lights up four or five cigars per round. Who knows? Losing that stick in his mouth could effect his balance.
It looks like there is another visitor who will return home with an "only in San Francisco" story.
Of course Jordan isn't the only name forced to face the anti-smoking rhetoric of the Golden State. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is also a stogie fan. When he learned he couldn't light up on the job, he built himself a smoking tent in a courtyard of the state capitol.


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Rihanna's millions of social-media followers probably appreciated her diligent documentation of her recent adventures in Thailand, but the locals who are getting arrested over her posts might not be quite so happy. A few weeks ago, the singer posted an Instagram photo of herself playing with a slow loris, leading to the arrest of two men for possession of protected animals.
(MORE: Rihanna Plays With a Slow Loris in Thailand, Gets Locals Arrested)
And now, one of her tweets has led to another arrest, this time of a bar owner responsible for a lewd sex show on the island of Phuket. Her tweet shared some, um, interesting details about the show:
Either I was phuck wasted lastnight, or I saw a Thai woman pull a live bird,2 turtles,razors,shoot darts and ping pong, all out of her pu$$y—
Rihanna (@rihanna) September 21, 2013
The bar owner now faces charges of obscenity and operating an entertainment venue without a permit, the Associated Press reports.
"Authorities found out about this bar the morning after Rihanna tweeted about it, but we were not able to catch them violating the law until Saturday night," local district chief Weera Kerdsirimongkon told the AP. "We had been waiting for them and finally caught them red-handed." He added that the owner could be looking at a month in prison and a fine of up to $1,900.
Now that three (three!) people have been arrested as a direct result of Rihanna's social-media updates, it's time to seriously address the question whether she's in cahoots with the Thai government.
MORE: The Physics of Rihanna: Can You Actually 'Pour It Up'?


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Disturbing trend of Obama cult of personality in school system continues
Paul Joseph Watson
Monday, May 21, 2012
An audio recording of an exchange between a teacher and a student at North Rowan High School in North Carolina serves as a reminder that the school system is becoming a training ground for teaching kids to be subservient to the state while indoctrinating them into thinking that the First Amendment doesn't exist.
The clip features a conversation in which teacher Tanya Dixon-Neely tells students that it is a criminal offense to criticize Barack Obama and that they could be "arrested" for doing so.
The discussion centers around a story about Mitt Romney bullying a kid five decades ago. A student responds by pointing out that Obama admits in his own book, Dreams from My Father, that he also bullied a girl when he was in school, and that both Obama and Romney are "just men."
Dixon-Neely then begins yelling about how "disrespecting the President" is an arrestable offense.
"Let me tell you something, you will not disrespect the president of the United States in this classroom," she says, adding, "Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush? Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?"
The student correctly dispels Dixon-Neely's nonsense by pointing out that the First Amendment permits the most vigorous criticism of the President.
"You would have to say some pretty f'd up crap about him to be arrested," says the student. "They cannot take away your right to have your opinion … They can't take that away unless you threaten the president."
When the student refuses to be intimidated into agreeing with the teacher, Dixon-Neely states, "OK, do I have to get my cane?"
"As a social studies teacher, I cannot allow you to slander any President," she adds.
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According to Breitbart News, "The student had asked his friend to record the discussion to "prove to his parents what he has been trying to tell them for some time. The teacher in this video has a long history of pushing a liberal agenda, by shouting down students. She is very intolerant of other points of view that she does not share. The atmosphere at this school is not very conducive to opposing views."
The school reacted to the controversy by claiming it represented "a learning experience," and failed to indicate whether it would take any action against Dixon-Neely for her blatantly misleading and downright dangerous teaching.
As we have previously documented, there are numerous examples where children are being made to chant songs worshipping Obama in schools, perform military-style parades in his honor, or watch propaganda videos about celebrities affirming their allegiance to him.
In September 2009, the White House announced it would stream an Obama speech directly into government schools. The speech was accompanied by lesson plans issued by the Department of Education which instructed teachers to ask children "Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials."
This was merely a continuation of the cult of personality that has been built up around Obama with the aid of the education system.
This creepy cult-like video showing celebrities pledging their "service" to the Obama government's global warming agenda was shown in Utah schools.
This now infamous "Obama Youth" video shows students at a middle school in Missouri performing a military style drill while chanting slogans about Obama's policies.
Children at Sand Hill Elementary School in Asheville, NC recite Obama campaign slogans.
A creepy video of young children in Illinois singing a Maoist-style homage to Obama's government, chanting "Yes We Can." A shockingly accurate comparison with the Hitler Youth is made at the end of the clip.
Teenagers in Toronto Canada perform a song for Obama in school.
Shocking video of a teacher forcing children to worship Obama. The kids look largely disinterested.
Black children mindlessly chant for Obama on a school bus.
Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show and Infowars Nightly News.