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I mean I haven't liked a single one since 2005 and have been looking in the genre ever since. My point is however that the MMORPG genre has evolved into this WoW clone genre, where you make a character, log in, speak to an npc to kill 10 rats, do this until you're high enough level to get to the next zone, to repeat it all again. You then end up doing this until you get to the end game which is made up of standing around wondering what to do because you're bored of Battlegrounds and bored of instances.
I got into the genre back in the day because I wanted virtual worlds, games back then offered this and they were all massively different from each other as the genre was in it's infancy and we didn't have many worlds. Now however MMORPG just means a game like WoW and I know EQ fanbois will be complaining, however they aren't true EQ fans. I mean I'm sick of these people who pop up and say WoW is an EQ clone........ sorry but play EQ from 2000 and play WoW from 2004, they were massivel different games, that is why EQ people hated it.
The MMO genre was also one that amazed graphically as well as scale wise. I mean the genre has this weird perception now where it's always looked bad and never been immersive and now every MMO is some cartoony thing... again thanx to WoW. I remember pre WoW where I was thinking the graphics are amazing for what it was doing. I remember playing EQ in Upper School and my parents saying how good looking it was and I remember games like EQ2 and SWG blowing everyones minds. I mean even Planetside looked good back in 2003, I was blown away with many things in that game. The genre has seemed to given in though to the current gen consoles and never truely entered the DX9 era and just seemed to have stuck with WoW graphics.
After playing Dayz I realised it isn't me, it's the games and how when a game creates an amazing world with challenge, not only do I jump on it, but so do 1.6 million other gamers. I realised that the MMORPG genre that I used to love was basically a genre for emergent gaming, a sandbox one where we create the story and one where we have control.
I reminded myself, I love SIm City, I love The SIms, I love EVE Online, I love Dayz, ArmA and every other game in this style. My Fave MMOS were EQ Pre Luclin/PoP, EVE, PoP and SWG Pre CU. My fave games are the Dayz or the GTAs or the Euro Truck Simulators lol. Ones that are for the hardcore, ones that don't treat the gamer as dumb, ones that you create the story and give you control.
There is nothing more boring to me than doing a kill 10 rats quest for some NPC who gives me some shit 3 line dialogue of story for why I'm doing it over and over again. Even games like SWTOR or GW2 where people claimed they were different, I ended up doing the same thing over and over.
So I realise, this genre is dead and the games I strive for aren't part of it.
Everyone says the genre is dead and most people say that for different reasons.
I also think the genre is dead, but I actually liked WoW untill 2nd expansion or so.
I certainly don't like the evolution right now. Way to action and combat oriented.
Perhaps I like to kill 10 rats, you see it's all just a waste of time, whether you kill 10 rats or you take over a city.
What you want is satisfaction. And I believe they fail in that today. They're to much busy with making the games "fun" and "enjoyable" while in fact it's the contrary that makes it interesting.
Who plays poker for fun? That doesn't exist. You're after the thrill of winning what's on the table. And there probably is no other game you could play for hours, like poker.
I said is in my thread before. The genre isn't dying. It's just that the mindset has changed and developers aren't changing with the new mindset.
the same music that was in the 80s and 90s isn't popular anymore in 2013 like it once was. Why? Because mindset of consumer changed. What's so hard to understand about that?
OP, it's hard to like anything if all you think of any game is "just another WoW clone"
Try going in positive. Maybe WoW and some of the other themepark type MMOs aren't as bad as you envision. Nobody is going to make the perfect game that you dream about. So either alter your tastes or move on.
Originally posted by MMOExposed
I said is in my thread before. The genre isn't dying. It's just that the mindset has changed and developers aren't changing with the new mindset.
the same music that was in the 80s and 90s isn't popular anymore in 2013 like it once was. Why? Because mindset of consumer changed. What's so hard to understand about that?
Well to pick up on your comparision, music is suposed to make you dance, feel good, feel bad, feel nostalgic, feel sleepy, have sex, attend a funeral, celebrate a birthday and so on.
To me music hasn't changed at all, today's music still does all that and has done so for centuries. It's the whole purpose of music.
Back to the games. It's not about how the games technically change. To me it's about how they change our approach to the game. It looks more like coop adventure games these days with very limited depth. The whole reason you play MMO's in today's titles is different than the older ones. Yes I take the most hated MMO of all time: WoW
But I've played some EQ2, and I believe EVE certainly still respect those old principles even if the package is completely different.
We don't need popularity in games, we need quality ;-)
I don't know, it's late, maybe I don't make any sense at all.
wait 1-2 years, real revolution is coming
World of Darkness
Star Citizen
Elite Dangerous
Black Desert
the end of cartoony fantasy clones is nigh
Secrets of Dragon?s Spine Trailer.. !
Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
Originally posted by FromHell
wait 1-2 years, real revolution is coming
And when 2 years have past and it's still all crap just wait 2 more because THOSE games will be the good ones!
If all you see is crap, it's time to go find a better view.
ya I mean those old games are so good yet you quit them all.
And if dayz is so good, why arn't you playing warz.
Maybe just maybe if those developer making those old games manage to keep their player base the genre might be different. BUt they didn't, so they follow the game which did keep it's player base which is wow.
I hear you OP. I found this post I made in 2004 or so, regarding Brads new game at the time, called Vanguard. It was made during beta on the sigil forums. I posted it to the server forums I ran for Antonius Bayle during Everquest1 2003-2004. It pretty much described how my first mmo experience felt like, and probably also explains why no other mmo ever felt the same again.
This was written by Geln a member of the SGO forums. Links provided in the post above. -no its not, Its been 10 years and I lost the link -
I was reading another thread and finally realized what it was that I most looked forward to in a new MMOG. I want to be as excited about the uknown of a totally new world as I was when I first played EQ. But, since I have that experience behind me and have learned a bit from playing for 4 years now, it's going to take an awful lot of trust in the developers for me to expect that kind of feeling again.
When I first started EQ, a good part of my excitement came out of my own imagination of what was possible. Some things did come out of it all that really surprised me, but to be honest, a lot of the potential I saw exploring the new world ended up as wasted. Now I've got a certain set of perceptions about what is done with a MMOG world and game mechanics and the assumptions I make as I explore any new world will be based on that. As long as the limits of the new world fit within the limits I've assumed for these types of games, then that excitement of the unknown is gone.
Let me give a few examples to illustrate.
Quoted from Aradune from another thread...
But what if travelling was fun? What if it wasn't tedious? What if an MMOG could have distant exotic lands where it meant something to have made the journey, ... where you occasionally saw someone of a race or garbed in certain clothing that was totally alien to the environment you were accustomed to?
Reading this made me think of my early EQ days. I had two other friends as excited as I was about the upcoming release of EQ. For a couple weeks before release, we read all the press releases and articles we could find on it and got together and made plans on what characters we'd create and the adventures we'd all go on together. Then the game hit the shelves.
One friend wanted a powerful wizard. He created an erudite. Another friend was drawn to the dark arts and wanted to roleplay a cynical curmudgeon (much like his real life personality ). He started a dark elf necromancer and role-played him to the hilt. I was overcome with the possibilities right up until I read the game manual and learned that bards would be the "ultimate" addition to any party. So I started a wood elf.
Over the next week, we played and got to know the world just a bit and spoke together in real life about plans to get together for adventure. The only problem, as it turned out, was that it would've been harder to pick three starting points more separated by geography. Two of us were on opposite sides of the game world and the third, considered "evil" by those that didn't appreciate his dark cynicism, couldn't even attempt to travel in either direction at least until he got an invisibility spell at the hopelessly unreachable level 8.
Well, somehow it got left up to me to find them. I guess I volunteered for it because I wanted to see the parts of the world they kept talking about. Meanwhile, they had heard me talk about Kelethin so they both created wood elf characters, started exploring the city, fell off the tree platforms and died, then promptly deleted those characters and declared they'd never return.
Soon I made level 5. I hunted for a few more days after that and was finally able to afford my level 5 song, Selo's Accelerando. Singing that and banging a drum, I felt invincible, so I set out to travel the world. First I would pick up my friend outside of Neriak and then together we would run to Odus. We figured it would take us two nights of play.
Well, the first night was spent getting lost in Greater Faydark. I know a lot of people had gripes about getting lost, but I loved it. I had no idea the zone was square shaped, so I stayed away from the "walls." I knew the paths sometimes led to other cities (another friend had taken her high elf paladin all the way from Felwithe up to join me in fighting the orcs of Crushbone, but she forgot which turns she'd taken on the path), but I also knew that some just ended in orc camps, so I didn't want to use them either. I just stood in one place and hammered Sense Heading until I finally was pretty sure what direction I was facing, then headed West, where the port city of Butcherblock was rumored to be.
Due to the uncontrollable orc population, I died a few times. Then when I found Butcherblock, I died again. Somewhere around there I decided following paths was for the best and I ended up in Dagnor's Cauldron. Someone else in the zone answered my shouted queries and said that it was no place for anyone below level 20 so I quickly zoned out before anything ate me.
I eventually found my way to the docks and waited for the boat. I wasn't bored because the whole time was spent shouting for information on when the last boat had come by and how long it would take after that for the next. Of course, no one knew, but there was a lot of fun to be had speculating. Perhaps the boats were on a regular schedule, but what if pirates had attacked it mid-route and sunken the ship - or even stolen it? Someone shouted that there were worse things in the Ocean of Tears than pirates and that the dragon there could swallow the boat whole.
By the time the boat did dock, I wasn't sure I was ready to board it anyway. But I did. Before the boat had even left the dock, I had explored it completely. And no, I didn't fall off. I've never accidentally fallen off a boat, ever. Why? Well, I grew up in Kelethin and learned to walk carefully.
The boat zoned into OOT and I was on my way.
This post is getting awfully long, but I hope the point is pretty apparent from what I've already written. The adventure for me was in the unknown. It was still possible in my mind that anything could happen.
I didn't worry about the impossible game mechanics of a dragon that would swallow the boat whole. If I imagined it possible, surely the game developers had imagined it as well and I'd better be careful.
I actually walked around tree stumps in GFay clicking on them hoping they would zone me into a magical dryad zone.
When I got lost, I shouted for help in finding landmarks because I didn't realize all trees had to be the same to cut down on zone lag.
I wondered at who had made the paths through the forest and across the lands and tried to determine from the number of zigzags whether they had been good or evil and if that would indicate to me what lie ahead. Of course, I realized this was silly. Only a ranger would have the skill to know that.
I thought the orcs would invade Kelethin some day soon if I and my friends didn't kill a certain number of them every day. I knew it was important to kill the centurions before the pawns or they would shout orders out that the others would obey and outmaneuver us. Every time a pawn died shouting to the centurions to save him I hid.
I thought Dagnor's Cauldron would be a bubbling acidic lake governed by the great and powerful sorceror Dagnor who would pluck unwary adventurers from the chasm floor and use them for demonic magical experiments.
I spent half my boat travel clicking on the "bar" in the belly of the boat knowing that there had to be some way to order a drink or it wouldn't be there and the other half of the time cowering against the far side of the ship and hiding behind the mast so Gornit wouldn't see me and attack the ship.
I believed the rumors that the griffons in the Commonlands were over level 50 and each controlled by a GM. I looked for graveyards so I could return the bone chips I'd looted to their rightful burial spot and finally lay the undead souls to rest.
I still remember the day I stood in Kelethin and marvelled at the gnome in front of me. Surely he was a great warrior for having made such a journey all the way to my city. And surely he was rich beyond belief as he owned a full suit of real leather armor. I remember gang-rushing into Crushbone with 40+ people in vain hopes of taking down the vile guardian of the zone, the dreaded and undefeatable Ambassador D'Vinn. I remember saving up money to buy a sharpening stone so that I could begin to care for my rusty rapier (What respectable bard would be caught dead with so inelegant a weapon as a shortsword?) and turn it into an "uber" tarnished weapon, then being afraid to put them into a forge because I wouldn't be able to go on if I lost my weapon in the process.
The wonder of all of this was in the not knowing the possibilities and also in the trust of the developers that they could do anything they or I imagined. It was in this unlimited possibility that the adventure was found and the game was more than a game, but a new life. Since then, I've come to learn a lot about what can and can't be done within the EQ game mechanics. I've gotted to know the rules of spawn times and loot pools and tiled textures and repeatable quests, etc. The game is still fun for me, but it's only a game. The numbers are important these days. The imagination, unfortunately, isn't.
I enjoy playing EQ. But I remember how much fun it was when no one knew the answers or even the questions. I remember that even though there were those that had advantages of play time, lucky drops or even previous mud experience, we were still all pretty much on even footing because no one knew the extents of this new world. Those that had found something out about the world, or had leveled beyond us, killed something most of us ran from, or wielded a legendary item like the dragoon dirk were respected for their ability and sought for their advice. And it was freely given.
Even the upper tier of level 15s (rumors were that someone had hit level 20, but few believed it) were willing to help out brand new characters because we all survived that way - in a spirit of cooperation. The world was too big and too scary not to.
There was no competition for kills because no one knew the loot tables. If someone ran up and killed your orc, you thanked them for helping you rid your forest of the evil and moved on to the next kill. There were always enough around for experience. KS didn't mean a thing. Camping meant you were logging off. Buff meant a single spell from someone in your group. No one said LFG because all you had to do was stand in a crowded area and someone would join up with you. Drops went to the class that could use them. If no one in the group needed an item dropped, then a shout went out to the whole zone.
As I've said, I still enjoy EQ, but it's not the same. Please, Sigil, give me that old feeling of mystery and possibility. And please try to make it last as long as you can.
If you made it this far, I hope you understand why I kept this post for all these years. It perfectly described how it felt when an MMO was unbound by preconceptions and the player had yet to understand the underlaying mechanics of the game. When the idea of "builds" "min/maxing" or any kind of math behind the game was completely unimaginable. When every choice had consequences and you got sweatty palms whenever a new situation came along because actions had consequences. When classes were really different. When you NEEDED a cleric because only they could help you recover some exp, when you NEEDED a necromancer because only they could get your corpse out of a dungeon, when you NEEDED a wizard because travelling took time and was dangerous without them. - When classes was distinguished by real and powerfull differences, that each held importance to everyone else too. When game developers were not afraid of making us interact with eachother exactly because we needed those various differences to get through our gameplay, when it was alright, great even to have to contact a stranger for a buff or aid, and make friends that way in the process. And when no instances excisted, which meant that everyone needed to co-exist with eachother to play the game.
Originally posted by Psychow
OP, it's hard to like anything if all you think of any game is "just another WoW clone"
Try going in positive. Maybe WoW and some of the other themepark type MMOs aren't as bad as you envision. Nobody is going to make the perfect game that you dream about. So either alter your tastes or move on.
Or maybe the OP is right. The genre might be alive and well and have fantastic games for YOU.
But, and I know this is a shocker, PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. They enjoy different things.
Are MMOs dead? That depends on how you define MMOs. I tend to agree with OP, and therefore for me they are dead. I haven't played an MMO in over a year and before that the only one I had played in the previous two years was ATITD.
It might have been more accurate for OP to say:
MMOs no longer represent a style of game I want to play. They are dead to me.
I've honestly felt myself leaning that way for a while now. Between massive amounts of dissapointment over the year and the dramatic and constant poluting of the genre with tons of crap just to make a couple nickels I'm so over it.
I'm not normally a big doomsayer but honestly I've even been checking into this site less and less. Hopefully development companies will eventually feel the financial loss and see a need to make a better product.
Originally posted by laokoko
ya I mean those old games are so good yet you quit them all.
And if dayz is so good, why arn't you playing warz.
Maybe just maybe if those developer making those old games manage to keep their player base the genre might be different. BUt they didn't, so they follow the game which did keep it's player base which is wow.
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Old MMOs didn't lose their playerbase. Many of them are still chugging along. Some of them were modified because publishers wanted WoW money and then the player base got pissed and they ended up closing. Like SWG. Some of them like EvE have more players than they did before. Some of them like WURM, ATITD and others are still chugging along at a similar level of activity.
EQ still has a substantial playerbase as well, even if they lost a lot of it, shocker, by trying to become more like WoW. Ultima Online is still running as well.
Originally posted by Cuathon
Old MMOs didn't lose their playerbase. Many of them are still chugging along. Some of them were modified because publishers wanted WoW money and then the player base got pissed and they ended up closing. Like SWG. Some of them like EvE have more players than they did before. Some of them like WURM, ATITD and others are still chugging along at a similar level of activity.
EQ still has a substantial playerbase as well, even if they lost a lot of it, shocker, by trying to become more like WoW. Ultima Online is still running as well.
Its been a long time since they've been relevant. A dev would have to be braindead to release an oldschool MMO right now. Most people have moved on, you've moved on. We know of something better so we don't have to endure all the shitty things they made us to do.
The novelty is long gone.
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky
Well the genere is "dead" but its growing. More people are picking up mmorpgs than did years ago...it is a growing genere.
This tells me that a LOT of players who dont like RPG games are jumping in for persistant progression and social aspects of the games they typically play.
What this means is to lure in the 75% of mmorpg players who hate RPG games they will continue to water down RPG aspects and appeal to short term action with limited progression...as these player just want to be the best as fast as possible. To accomplish this, they must remove a deep progression system, water down classes, and provide super easy (though flashy) gimmicks to get these people into the game fast, get them to endgame fast, and get them to a position where they think they are really good at the game, even if they lack a pulse and even a shred of common sense.
And this my friends is mmropgs of today...exactly this. No risks, you cant lose anything, you can screw anything up, just close your eyes and follow the NPC trail to the end, where youll preform just as good as anyone else there.
So some people cant figure out why they cant stay attached to a game where theres no effort needed to progress, where theres no choices, no mistakes, nothing at risk for doing anything...even pvp?
Well the answer is that back during 1996-2004 period, there were not a whole lot of mmorpg players. Most of us had come from offline single player RPG games. We wanted a game you could sink your teeth into, where the gloring of being max level wasnt guranteed or easy...for those who got there, it was an accomplishment, and you grew very attached to the game and character in the process.
Now there is none of that, its all done for you. Sure the games look better, has more features, has more marketing hype and the euphoric prelaunch-first 3 weeks period where its "the best game ever all other games are going to shut down because this game is so fantasic and your really stupid if your not playing and enjoying this game im going to every forum to tell everyone this" moments...if you can remember older games were much more difficult to get into, but once you did it was that euphoric period towards the end and it lasted much longer.
I think two things NEED to happen with these games. Developers need to ditch the mmorpg tag. Half these games are fantasy action games. While some are fun, they just lack most things that make a good RPG...well a good RPG.
We need developers, the indy ones, to top rushing into the endzone, always biting off more than they can chew, creating a general feeling that "those types" of games suck..which is whats happening. You say sandbox or full loot and most think a really crappy game thats alpha test quality 4 years down the road with a broke 5 man team stuck in a situation where the game will never get better. All these guys are really doing is rushing in on the common complaints from RPG players.
And dont get me wrong, RPG players that i speak of can have fun in shallow games, and often do. Just there needs to be someone out there that can make a decent buck on a well made game, that appeals to us...rather than the crowd everyone else is trying to go after...the ones i decribe above. Its turing the genere into a one trick pony where all they can do is over hype the game and move on.
Originally posted by QuirhidOriginally posted by Cuathon
Old MMOs didn't lose their playerbase. Many of them are still chugging along. Some of them were modified because publishers wanted WoW money and then the player base got pissed and they ended up closing. Like SWG. Some of them like EvE have more players than they did before. Some of them like WURM, ATITD and others are still chugging along at a similar level of activity.
EQ still has a substantial playerbase as well, even if they lost a lot of it, shocker, by trying to become more like WoW. Ultima Online is still running as well.
Its been a long time since they've been relevant. A dev would have to be braindead to release an oldschool MMO right now. Most people have moved on, you've moved on. We know of something better so we don't have to endure all the shitty things they made us to do.
The novelty is long gone.
That's not what he said though.
On the issue you are raising:
Modern MMOs didn't improve on old ones. They aren't the same kind of game. If someone came out with an old style MMO with a graphical update and an improvement to the things that made MMOs great it would be popular. Maybe not WoW popular, but then RIFT and SWTOR weren't WoW popular either.
Considering how AOC and WAR and SWG went down the toilet followng the "new" MMO model, it can't be that great.
Of course no one has made an MMO like that, even if a few companies are currently trying. I think they aren't going far enough though.
If you havent enjoyed a game since 2005 you should probably move on.
A lot of the nostalgia is all well and good, but the truth is that if EQ or UO launched today, noone would give it a second look. The industry has moved on and people have higher expectations, thats what is really killing the genre.
People aren't happy with all the time sinks and limitations to having fun.
There are still plenty of MMOs out there that offer that old school feel, that are still alive and well. Aside from graphical snobbery, there is no reason why you couldnt still be playing them.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
Originally posted by tixylix
I love EVE online
This one statement contradicts everything else in your post. You hate MMO's but you love EVE online? Hello? Also seems like you just mentioned the game for you right in your post, how about that. Go tear your ass and have some fun...
What was the point of this post again?
If stopped liking MMORPGs in 2005, I would have stopped playing them in 2005. And I certainly wouldn't be posting here 7 years later whining about how much I don't like them. Move on with your life to something you actually enjoy.
I think it's less about the games changing and more about the players becoming a bunch of whiny, jaded, entitlement-obsessed, freeloading crybabies who would rather complain about what's wrong with games than actually enjoying what's right with them.
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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A man walks into a bar and starts talking about how he doesn't like alcohol anymore.
Everyone drinking in the bar nods in agreement.
I walk out of the bar wondering, why did I choose this bar to get a beer in?
Originally posted by Zorgo
A man walks into a bar and starts talking about how he doesn't like alcohol anymore.
Everyone drinking in the bar nods in agreement.
I walk out of the bar wondering, why did I choose this bar to get a beer in?
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg


text: TROY -- The North Lansingburgh Neighborhood Watch Group counted top police brass, local media and city politicians among the special guests at its monthly meeting Tuesday evening, the topic of which was, not surprisingly, crime. Approximately 100 residents filled the main meeting room of the Boys and Girls Club on 113th Street, making it one of the group's better attended meetings. Along with a regular report from Community Police Officer Jeff Combs, the two-hour forum featured Troy Police Chief John Tedesco, Deputy Assistant Chief Richard "Buddy" McAvoy, Assistant Police Chief George Vanbramer and members of the Troy City Council, including Kevin McGrath, who represents Lansignburgh. Tedesco began by telling residents that the charges of a citywide increase in crime were "greatly exaggerated." "We've had a spike in homicides, we've had six," Tedesco said. "Four of which were committed by firearms. That's not good news by any stretch." But Tedesco pointed out that crime overall had remained steady, citing statewide stats from the past five years. "In 2012 compared to 2011, the increase in crime in the City of Troy was .6 percent," Tedesco said. "It's not the wild west that everybody made it out to be." In fact, the chief said, during that five-year period violent crime in the city was actually down ten percent, according to figures from the state department of criminal justice figures. "That's a real good number," Tedesco told residents. Tedesco credited the drop in violent crimes, including rape and robbery, to McAvoy and Vanbramer, seated behind him. Vanbramer is the department's patrol supervisor while McAvoy heads up all police investigations. Residents had a chance to ask questions of the city's top police brass and many took the opportunity to speak out about problems locally, including vandalism, loitering and a general sense of unease in the 'Burgh. McAvoy urged all residents who see suspicious activity to call police. "If your instincts tell you something is wrong, it probably is," McAvoy said. "Remember, we're as near as the closest telephone." Responding to a question regarding police visibility in the area, Tedesco said he wouldn't talk about police tactics directly, but did say "officers should be strategically placed, and that's what we're trying to do." The possibility of federal grant money to put more cops on the street was addressed, but Tedesco said federal money "isn't out there right now." Tedesco told the gathered crowd that he would continue to advocate for resources when he met with U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand on Wednesday. Before Tedesco spoke, Community officer Combs gave out the monthly crime numbers for the 'Burgh, which he said are down since police made the key arrest in the rash of vehicle larcenies that had been plaguing the area. "Last month we had 18 larcenies from vehicles," Combs said. "That's down from 35 the previous month." "We're reviewing the statistics and [they have] been reduced significantly," McAvoy echoed Cops credit the drop to the arrest of Hiram Morales, a 30-year-old repeat offender they believe is responsible for the one-man crime wave that hit the area beginning late last year. Combs again urged residents to take precautions and secure belongings in vehicles, leaving nothing in plain sight. The meeting was opened by a presentation by Deb Carey, a crime victim liaison, whose office provides services to victims of sex and property crimes. After the meeting, Tedesco told The Record "I get out here a few times a year, and it's a good group." City Councilman Rodney Wiltshire, D-At Large, called the meeting "very well attended." "It was really good to see so many people and to hear such a positive dialogue." The North Lansignburgh Neighborhood Watch group meets the second Tuesday of the month at the Lansignburgh Boys & Girls Club. Charles Sweeney can be reached at 270-1252.

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Worldwide, antibiotics are used in animal production at therapeutic levels for the treatment of infections and for growth promotion or prophylaxis. The disadvantage of antibiotics is the emergence and spread of resistant bacteria. Resistant bacteria have become a major concern for both animal health and the public as human medicine is running out of antibiotics that are still effective in treating certain infections.
Antibiotic use in animal production has been identified as a risk factor in the development of antibiotic resistant bacteria that can be transferred to humans via several routes. These include the consumption of animal products, exposure to resistant microorganisms from contact with animals, and the contamination of ground and surface waters by wastes containing antimicrobials and resistant microorganisms.
Exposure to antibiotics not only increases the level of antibiotic resistance among bacteria belonging to the normal intestinal flora of animals but also among pathogenic bacteria. Where high levels of resistant pathogenic bacteria are present, antibiotic treatments may no longer be effective against pathogens.
E. coli resistance in swine
Surveillance and monitoring studies on antimicrobial resistance provide information about the occurrence of resistances in pigs in different parts of the world. E. coli resistance in swine was described in the Austrian Resistance Report AURES, a yearly report published since 2004 on the levels of resistance in humans and the veterinary sector.
To date, a total of about 160 digesta samples from the large intestine of swine from 30 farms in Austria have been analyzed for E. coli. Tests for antimicrobial susceptibility to different antibiotics were conducted. The microbiological resistance of E. coli using epidemiological cut-off values is shown in Figure 1. Epidemiological cutoff values are determined on the basis of the distribution of minimal inhibitory concentration for an antibiotic and a bacterial species. The cut-off values for different antibiotics are presented by the European Committee on Antimicrobial Susceptibility Testing (EUCAST).
Figure 1. Microbiological resistance of E. coli to different antibiotics in Austria>


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CHICAGO, March 25 (UPI) -- Chicago-area employers that use incentives to entice employees to get health screenings see improved health outcomes, a survey found.
Brent Estes, president and chief executive officer of Rush Health, a not-for-profit organization whose members include Rush University Medical Center, said the survey showed a number of Chicago-area employers tie incentives to health screening results.
The survey was completed by 361 organizations representing a broad spectrum of industries in the Chicago healthcare marketplace.
Wellness programs varied by organization, but activities included health-risk assessments, questionnaires, screenings for blood-pressure and cholesterol, and smoking cessation, weight management and nutrition programs.
Also included in the wellness programs were group walking at work, better selection of healthy eating options at work, and monitoring programs to identify participation levels, satisfaction, reductions in risk factors and changes in health behavior.
"The wellness survey showed that employers target lifestyle habits to improve the health of employees," Estes said in a statement. "Keeping people healthy isn't merely a booming trend; it's a necessary part of life."
A total of 81 percent of employers target lifestyle habits that focus on physical activity, tobacco use and weight management programs, the study found.
Of the organizations that focus programs on specific conditions, diabetes was most popular at 72 percent; followed by high blood pressure, heart disease and obesity.
The survey was conducted in September by Aon Hewitt in partnership with Rush Health.


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a a gruntpuddock wrote:This feature is not available in Autopano Pro, options are free or single row/ column.
macbenutzer wrote:Just think of a small panel popping up before the recognition is started saying "Any details known on this project? Enter them here." There you could enter the number of rows, lines, brackets and this information would used by Autopano as "hint" where to put images and what to do with orphaned images. It would be a very easy and totally hasslefree way to get a very valuable information about a project. No more orphaned images or "sub-panorama" in a project!
Maybe i just would like to have something like this as i am more of a photographer than a programmer ;-)
mediavets wrote:(The Seitz VRDrive2 and the Panogear/T&C Touch controller can also generate Papywizard-compatible XML format data files).
a a gruntpuddock wrote:Thanks mediavets - a bit of APP I had vever explored!
Pity the supplied options do not match the pattern I set for my home-grown pano head, but it's nice to know they are available.
a a gruntpuddock wrote:I have two patterns, depending on whether I want to shoot in rows or columns.
In either case, it starts at the top left corner then trundles along one row/ column, shifts, then reverses direction.
So, in the case of columns (my preference), it goes down, across, up, across, down.
Did it that way because it saves the time and battery power compared to always starting the row or column at the same end.
I did not bother looking at the 'input' options before because I assumed you had to have used one of the commercial heads to prepare all the relevant files, etc.
Think I will try an old pano again using these options, I had to spend some time setting the sky shots by hand but that may not be necessary.
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Earth & Space Science: Session 8
Session 8. Order Out of Chaos: Our Solar System
Learning Goals
During this session, you will have an opportunity to build understandings to help you:
- Contrast the characteristics of the three types of planetary bodies in our solar system
- Describe the prominent theory of planet formation
- Discuss the scientific evidence that informs our understanding of how and when our solar system formed
- Comprehend the scale of our solar system
Video Overview
Have you ever looked into that seemingly endless blanket of stars in the night sky and wondered: Is there another planet like ours? Is Earth unique in the Universe? What is the likelihood of the existence of solar systems like ours? In order to contemplate these questions, we must first understand the story of our own solar system.
Video Outline
What is the nature of our solar system? How did it form? How did the Earth form? These are questions that have perplexed the thinkers, the dreamers, and the explorers-at-heart of humankind for centuries. Science is finally able to offer some insight into answers to these questions based on evidence gathered from many intriguing sources. Our investigation of the solar system begins by thinking about the nature of its planetary bodies. Dr. Scott Kenyon explores the characteristics of the planets and smaller bodies in our solar system as well as how they formed, and what this suggests about the origin of the solar system. Dr. Sarah Stewart examines the influence of the Sun on planet size, composition, and placement in the solar system. Dr. Ursula Marvin leads us on an investigation of meteorites and the clues about the birth of our solar system that they provide. Dr. Kenyon concludes our solar system exploration by raising questions about the possibility of extra-solar planets and systems.
Throughout the video, we observe elementary school children being interviewed as they explore their ideas about the solar system, planet formation, and planetary motion. We visit Carol Berlin and her third graders at the Charlotte A. Dunning School in Framingham, Massachusetts. We observe as the students apply their knowledge of the planets in a culminating activity to create a schoolyard solar system.


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Violence Mars Commonwealth Meeting
The trouble erupted after a speech by FDC leader Kizza Besigye. A crowd of dozens of supporters started cheering and dancing as they filed onto a street outside the zone where demonstrations are allowed during the summit which started Friday.
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The Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) in Uganda has been disrupted by street protests.
A rally by Uganda's main opposition party urging Commonwealth sanctions against the host government turned into violent clashes with police, witnesses said.
Scores of police descended onto a group of supporters of the Forum for Democratic Change (FDC) after they left a zone where demonstrations are permitted, the witnesses said. One civilian and one police officer sustained serious injuries.
The trouble erupted after a speech by FDC leader Kizza Besigye. A crowd of dozens of supporters started cheering and dancing as they filed onto a street outside the zone where demonstrations are allowed during the summit which started Friday.
"This is nothing new, we have been living with a police force that does not respect the rights of the people," Mr. Besigye said. "With or without the Queen, this country will be free."
Uganda is hosting the biennial 53-nation meeting, which opened a day after Pakistan was suspended for civil rights violations under emergency rule.
"We believe that Uganda requires sanctions based on its violations," Mr. Besigye told supporters at a Kampala airstrip.
"What is happening in Pakistan also happened here. [Pakistan President] Musharraf has been asked to leave the Commonwealth, why not here?"
Over 100 protestors gathered under the sweltering sun to hear the opposition leader denounce Britain's Queen Elizabeth II for meeting Museveni, whom he accused of rights abuses and election rigging.
"Queen you are the head of our problems!" read one banner waved by the protestors, some also carrying pictures of tortured opposition activists and tear-gassed marches.
The FDC said the cost of hosting the summit in Uganda was twice the amount pledged by the government for relief in areas affected by devastating flooding.
An opposition demonstration charging the Commonwealth was not giving enough attention to impoverished communities was also staged in Kampala on Thursday, resulting in scuffles that left a handful of protestors hurt.
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A tale of two Ms: Motor magazine competition winners get behind the wheel of a vast range of BMW M cars at Sydney Motorsport Park.
The fast-fleet includes the likes of the M3, M4, M5, M6 and X6 M, with a 428i and M235i thrown in for good measure. The baby coupe may not be a full M car (M2 is coming) but is among our readers' picks of the day for packing big entertainment into a compact size. X6 M also overcomes scepticism that SUVs can't cope with a track attack.
Driver-training action incorporates braking, skidpan and (timed) motorkhana exercises, though our participants are most in their element lapping SMP behind BMW's skilled instructors. Or sitting beside them for hot-laps – where the M3s spend more time sideways than straight-ways. All in the name of education, of course.
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Five9 Rising: Q1 Beats, Q2 View In Line, Year View Higher
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Shares of Five9 (FIVN), which deploys call centers via cloud computing, are up 11 cents, or 2%, in late trading at $5.71, after the company this afternoon reported Q1 revenue that topped analysts' expectations, and a smaller-than-expected net loss per share, forecast this quarter's revenue in line, and forecast year revenue higher.
It was the company's first report since going public on April 4th.
Revenue in the three months ended in March rose 27%, year over year, to $24.3 million, yielding a net loss of $1.55, excluding some costs.
Analysts had been modeling $22.9 million and a $1.77 net loss.
CEO Mike Burkland called the results "strong," remarking that the quarter was "fueled by the growing demand for our integrated cloud-based software solutions."
"Increasingly, we are seeing customers shift from legacy on-premise solutions as they are drawn to the benefits of the cloud—the low up-front costs, ability to scale on-demand, rapid deployment and the ease of management and integration. We believe Five9 is well positioned to capitalize on these trends in a multi-billion dollar market opportunity."
For the current quarter, the company sees revenue in a range of $24.4 million to $25.2 million, and a GAAP net loss of $11.6 million to $12.6 million. Analysts have been modeling $24. million and an $11.2 million net loss.
For the full year, the company forecast revenue of $102 million to $106 million, above the average $102.5 million net loss estimate on the Street. Net income is seen in a range of $36.8 million to $38.8 million. That compares to consensus for $43.3 million.


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WEST HARTFORD, Conn. – UMBC junior midfielder Amy Savage (Ottawa, Ontario/Sir Wilfrid Laurier) tallied her second goal in two games in the first half against Hartford, but the Hawks' senior forward Ameila Pereira netted two first half goals en route to a 4-1 victory in Thursday night's America East contest on Al-Marzook Field inside Alumni Stadium.
Hartford improves to 6-2-3 overall and 2-0 in conference, while UMBC drops to 1-8-2 on the year and 0-2 in league play.
Junior forward Natasha Douglas helped to put Hartford out in front 2:54 into the contest, sending a pass just inside the box for Pereira to blast a shot into the lower right corner of the net, for the 1-0 advantage.
UMBC junior forward Stephanie Smith (Severna Park, Md./Archbishop Spalding) earned her first point of the season, crossing the ball out of the corner to the front of the net for Savage to head past Hawks' junior goalkeeper Erin Quinlan to even the score at one with 34:29 remaining in the opening half.
Pereira struck again, giving Hartford back the lead and notching the eventual game-winner, heading in a cross from junior forward Arielle Aikens for her ninth goal of the season.
Hartford added further insurance in the first half, as Douglas stole the ball from the UMBC defense and dished the ball off to senior forward Caitlin Alves for the finish for the 3-1 lead at the half.
Freshman forward Elise Galipo added her second goal of the season in the 85th minute for Hartford's fourth goal on 10 shot.
"The score was not indicative of our play tonight," head coach Leslie Wray said. "Although we went down a goal early we responded well and tied the game with a quality goal. We showed a lot of heart and I was happy with our work rate."
UMBC returns to action on Sunday when it hosts Maine at the Retriever Soccer Park for America East action. Kickoff starts at 1 p.m.


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Active forest clearing by PT Asia Tani Persada, who supply Asia Pulp and Paper (APP) in Kuala Labai, West Kalimantan. Greenpeace activists witness active clearing of the forest during the Tiger Tour Kalimantan on September 27, 2012 in Kuala Labai, Balai Berkuak District - Ketapang Regency, West Kalimantan, Indonesia. Greenpeace is calling on Indonesian citizens to be part of the 'Tiger's Eye Community' to protect Indonesian forest from destruction. Greenpeace is urging the government to take immediate action to protect the habitat by expanding moratorium areas, evaluate existing permits and implement full peatland forest protection.
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Hi all,
Well I've gone and done it... I've booked the Ferry for May, I'm actually getting to go to this years BTS Exhibition!! I couldn't go last year and I was gutted!
This will be my first time going so I'm really excited & can't wait (and yes... I know it's only January) to experience it, not to mention pick up some nice 'T's!!
I have a few questions... If anyone can give me an answer it would be very much appreciated, so thank you in advance..
1) The Exhibition starts at 11:00am, what are the queues like & how early should I arrive?
2) Is it necessary to preorder from sellers?
3) Do sellers mind holding on to your purchases for you until the end of the Exhibition & what are the pros and cons of doing this?
Any other advice and or tips would be most welcome
Thanks again,


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YouTube might currently be chock full of unauthorized movies, but now they've struck a deal with major Hollywood studios to bring new, legal movies to their site as well. They've had a movie rental system in place since January, but the selection to this point has been largely of the never-heard-of-it variety. No word on what rental fees for the mainstream flicks might be yet, but the previous rate has been $4 for a 48 hour rental window.
Update: Looks like there are a handful of studios holding out—namely, Fox and Paramount—which is delaying the launch. [The Wrap]


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Cat 6 lead authors: WU cofounder Dr. Jeff Masters (right), who flew w/NOAA Hurricane Hunters 1986-1990, & WU meteorologist Bob Henson, @bhensonweather
By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:40 PM GMT on August 15, 2013
The tropical wave in the Western Caribbean near the Yucatan Peninsula (92L) is growing more organized this morning, after an evening when it lost most of its heavy thunderstorm activity. Satellite loops show a modest-sized area of heavy thunderstorms that are increasing in intensity and areal coverage, but there are a no signs of a surface circulation. Winds at surface stations in the Western Caribbean also do not show a surface circulation. The highest surface wind reports this Thursday morning were at Western Caribbean buoy 42056 about 140 miles east southeast of Cozumel, which had east winds of 25 mph, gusting to 34 mph, at 10 am EDT. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 20 knots over the the wave, which should allow slow development today until its west-northwest movement at 10 - 15 mph carries it over the Yucatan Peninsula Thursday afternoon. Four hurricane hunter flights were scheduled to fly into 92L today--an Air Force mission tasked to provide a center fix early this afternoon, two NOAA P-3 missions aimed at collecting real-time radar data to feed into the HWRF model, and a flight by the NOAA jet to collect dropsonde data around the periphery of 92L. However, all of these flights were cancelled, given that 92L did not organize as much as much as it could have.
Figure 1. MODIS satellite image of Invest 92L taken at 12:30 pm EDT Thursday August 15, 2013. Image credit: NASA.
Forecast for 92L
92L will trek across the Yucatan Peninsula Thursday evening and arrive in the Southern Gulf of Mexico on Friday, when it will have the opportunity to strengthen. The 06Z Thursday SHIPS model forecast predicts that 92L will remain in an area of low to moderate wind shear through Saturday, and ocean temperatures will be a favorable 29 - 30°C. The topography of the Southern Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche can aid in getting a storm spinning more readily, but 92L may be far enough north that this influence will be negligible. Given all these factors, 92L should be able to become at least a tropical depression by Saturday, A trough of low pressure over the northern Gulf of Mexico will dip down by Saturday evening over the Central Gulf of Mexico, potentially increasing wind shear to a high 20 - 30 knots, stalling any further intensification. This trough may also be able to pull the storm northwards to a landfall between Eastern Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle, as the 00Z Thursday run of the European model is suggesting. This would bring a plenty of tropical moisture into the Southeast U.S., resulting in a large area of 4+" of rain. However, the other models show a more westerly track for 92L, with landfalls possible in Texas or Mexico south of the Texas border, and there is high uncertainty where 92L may go once it enters the Gulf of Mexico. In their 8 am EDT Wednesday Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 92L a 50% of developing by Saturday, and a 60% chance of developing by Tuesday.
Figure 2. MODIS satellite image of Tropical Storm Erin taken at 10:30 am EDT Thursday August 15, 2013. At the time, Erin had maximum sustained winds of 40 mph. Image credit: NASA.
Tropical Storm Erin
The season's fifth named storm of the year, Tropical Storm Erin, has formed over the far Eastern Atlantic off the coast of Africa. Erin is over warm waters of 27°C and is under a moderate 10 - 15 knots of wind shear, which should allow continued development today and Friday. Erin is a small storm, as seen on satellite loops. The 12Z Thursday SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear will be low to moderate for the next five days, which favors development. However, the waters beneath Erin will steadily cool to a marginal 26°C by Friday, and the atmosphere will steadily get drier, as the storm encounters the Saharan Air Layer (SAL), discouraging development. Erin's west-northwest motion will cut the storm off on Sunday from a moist source of air to its south--the semi-permanent band of tropical thunderstorms called the ITCZ (Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone.) The storm should weaken beginning on Sunday, which would result in Erin turning more to the west as the east-to-west blowing surface trade winds begin to dominate the steering of the shallower storm. We may see a situation like occurred for Tropical Storm Dorian in late July--intensification to a 60 mph tropical storm, followed by a slow decay and dissipation. The latest run of the GFS model calls for Erin to dissipate well before reaching the Lesser Antilles Islands.
Typhoon Utor dissipates
Typhoon Utor has dissipated after hitting Southeast China about 150 miles southwest of Hong Kong on Wednesday as a Category 1 storm with 90 mph winds. The typhoon is being blamed for 1 death in China, and sank a 21-person cargo ship off the coast. In the Philippines, where Utor hit as a Category 4 storm with 140 mph winds on Monday, 8 deaths are being blamed on the storm, and damage is estimated at $20 million.
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Cat 6 lead authors: WU cofounder Dr. Jeff Masters (right), who flew w/NOAA Hurricane Hunters 1986-1990, & WU meteorologist Bob Henson, @bhensonweather


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Feb. 28 must be one of the days marked on President Ma Ying-jeou's (馬英九) calendar as days on which he must speak carefully and, perhaps, apologize as president and Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) chairman, for all the wrong reasons — such as the 228 Massacre being "people rebelling against misgovernment."
It is easy to imagine Ma breathing a sigh of relief when March comes around, since he can then ignore calls for the government and his party to seek the truth behind the ruthless massacre and to apologize for the right reasons for at least another year.
Not so fast.
March 8 — which was also International Women's Day — marked the anniversary of the beginning of the "March Crackdown," which has been described as the second, although most important, part of the massacre.
On March 8, 1947, the Nationalist Army's 21st Division arrived in Keelung and began shelling the port and shooting at residents even before landing. During the next three months, Chiang Kai-shek's (蔣介石) troops scoured the island and wiped out an entire generation of Taiwanese elites.
For many victims and their families, it is a date they can never forget, and so it should be for the government and the KMT.
However, the Ma administration could not care less about the facts, instead pretending that the crackdown never took place.
Marches involving tens of thousands people on that day — Saturday this year — in cities around Taiwan have given March 8 another meaning: marking opposition to the Fourth Nuclear Power Plant in Gongliao District (貢寮), New Taipei City.
For the third year since Japan's 2011 Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant accident, Taiwanese are asking the government to not only suspend the construction of the Gongliao plant, but phase out nuclear power altogether, citing the potential of a nuclear disaster in earthquake-prone Taiwan and the incompetence of Taiwan Power Co (Taipower).
The Ma administration has said that while nuclear safety is crucial, the concerns of the nuclear skeptics have never been an issue and Taiwan must have atomic energy.
A different group took to the streets on Sunday, one day before the annual Tibetan Uprising Day, to commemorate Tibetan resistance against a Chinese invasion in 1959 and to raise awareness that Chinese suppression of Tibetan culture and religion remains ongoing.
Supporters of the democratic movements in Tibet and East Turkestan, now known as the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region in China, have always had a strong presence in Taiwan because they feel that the three places share similar histories of Chinese oppression and exist under the same threat from the Chinese Communist Party.
That is why these supporters hoped that Taiwan, as a beacon of democracy in Asia, would advocate human rights and the right of self-determination more than any other country in the world.
However, the Ma administration has never shown support for the movements in Tibet and East Turkestan. Nor has it addressed the issues with Beijing during the past six years of "significantly relaxed" cross-strait relations — despite more than 100 Tibetans having committed suicide by setting themselves on fire over the past two years.
A well-known Chinese poem written during the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 described the authoritarian Chinese regime like this: "Cover your eyes so you think you would not see. Cover your ears so you think you would not hear."


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June 17, 2013
Food trucks on campus June 25 to kick off Food Fight 2013
Food Fight is an event held to fight hunger in our community. In partnership with Mid-Ohio Foodbank, the Central Ohio Restaurant Association (CORA) organizes a group of member restaurants that generously volunteer to donate a portion of one day's sales receipts to help those in need. All proceeds benefit Operation Feed, Mid-Ohio Foodbank's annual community-wide food and funds campaign.
Food Fight 2013 will kick off with the first annual Food (Truck) Fight on Tuesday, June 25, from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on the Columbus State campus. Several food truck vendors will station themselves in a parking lot at the corner of Mt. Vernon and Cleveland Avenues to offer their fare to our campus and the community—for a great cause. Five percent of your purchase at the food trucks will be donated to Mid-Ohio Foodbank's Operation Feed campaign. Each dollar raised provides three meals for a child, senior or other community member in need. Food trucks will include Pitabilites, Dan's Deli 41, Los Jalapenos, Blu Olive and That Food Truck. Don't miss it!
UHC Health Rewards points due June 30
Time is winding down to achieve the minimum eight health and wellness points for your United Health Care (UHC) coverage. Remember, employees with UHC coverage can maintain or regain their 20 percent contribution by achieving eight points. The points are tallied between July 1, 2012 and June 30, 2013. All activities must be completed by June 30, 2013.
If you need a refresher course or are having trouble navigating the UCH website, check out this web video http://welcometomyuhc.com/healthandwellness/tour/. There's a pull-down menu in the upper right side that says "Jump to Topic." That menu will allow you to select specific areas that you want to view.
If you have questions, please contact Wellness Coordinator Nichole Bowman-Glover at ext. 3989.
Learn about Cultural Competency June 21
The phrase "cultural competency" has recently emerged as a theme through focus groups associated with Achieving the Dream. What is cultural competence and what role does it play in student learning? Differences in culture and experience affect how students learn. Their expectations for how to behave, study and communicate may not be what you expect.
Join Kim Brazwell, manager of Diversity Initiatives, and Tywan Banks, instructor in Multicompetency Health, for exercises and a discussion to explore these potential gaps in understanding. Cultural Competency, the next Academic Onboarding and Renewal program, will be held Friday, June 21, from 1:00 to 2:00 p.m. in CT 107.
Required training for employees who handle credit cards
All employees at Columbus State who handle credit cards or are exposed to credit card information are required to take a PCI Compliance training session annually. If you have taken the class previously, you are required to take a refresher class annually as well.
The Columbus State procedure states that to be in compliance with CSCC procedure 9-12 (C), all department personnel assigned to process payment card transactions must receive training on the process to report and include those transactions in the College's financial system. Department personnel who accept and process payment cards must receive training on understanding the requirements of and compliance with the PCI-DSS standards.
Six training sessions offered in July to meet this requirement. Sessions will be held in
Madison Hall Room 217 – the Student Assistance Center Conference Room. They are:
July 9, at 9:00 a.m.
July 11, at 2:00 p.m.
July 15, at 10:00 a.m.
July 17, at 3:00 p.m.
July 22, at 3:00 p.m.
July 25, at 11:00 a.m.
Register here: http://web.cscc.edu/is/employeetraining/courses.asp
Three employee training courses offered
Career Pathing II - Wednesday, June 19 from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon in WD 415.
Career Pathing II will focus on your Career Action Plan. We will discuss roadblocks encountered and progress you've made in assessing yourself, exploring opportunities at CSCC and documenting your goals. Bring your Action Plan with you (even if you haven't yet started it!) and be prepared to share your accomplishments and frustrations. Prerequisite: Career Pathing workshop. Register here: http://web.cscc.edu/is/employeetraining/register.asp?C=470&D=3048
Win With Your Strengths – Tuesday, July 9 from 12:30 to4:30 p.m. in WD 402.
Everyone has strengths. Recognizing and tapping into them to reach larger goals can lead to increased job satisfaction, performance, productivity and success.
In this course you learn the Introduction to strengths-based language, learn more about your own strengths, and learn more about others strengths. You'll also take an online StrengthsFinder assessment and determine your top five "Signature Strengths." Register here: http://web.cscc.edu/is/employeetraining/register.asp?C=302&D=3072
Hostmanship: Customer Service and Leadership reframed: The Art of Serving Others – Friday, July 19, from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. in WD 435N.
Hostmanship in the art of making people feel welcome--meetings where genuine hospitality is present and has its origin in that person, that organization or that place that has invited you. Good Hostmanship means understanding the art of serving and realizing how much it enriches our lives.
In this introduction to Hostmanship, we will discuss its foundation and principles as well as its application for personal and professional growth. We will take an hour "on your own" lunch break from 12:00-1:00 p.m. Register here: http://web.cscc.edu/is/employeetraining/register.asp?C=433&D=3056
LaForrests host German exchange student
Al LaForrest and his family recently were awarded the President's Volunteer Service Award from the Education First Foundation for Foreign Study for hosting an international high school student during the 2012-2013 school year. The awards are issued annually on behalf of President Obama to honor the "commitment of America's most dedicated volunteers." Magdalena arrived in August 2012 when she was 15 years old and turned 16 while she was in the U.S. She will return home on Tuesday. From left are Al LaForrest, Magdalena, Al's wife Rita, and daughter Mary.


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A Chicago man who police saw take a running start before kicking a kitten 15 to 18 feet into the air, then raise his arms to signal a successful field goal, will be spending some time in jail — and won't get the cat back.
Cook County Judge Tommy Brewer on Tuesday found Percy Love, of the 6500 block of South Maplewood Avenue, guilty of animal cruelty for the Jan. 23 boot of the small black cat, according to Cook County State's Attorney's office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton.
The judge sentenced Love to 90 days in the Cook County Jail on the misdemeanor conviction and gave him credit for 37 days served, Simonton said. Love was held since his arrest on a $50,000 bond.
Officers cared for the male cat until Animal Care and Control workers took it for treatment at their facility on the Southwest Side.
"Despite the terrible abuse, the cat (whom the defendant called 'Nightmare') is doing quite well. He is a very friendly and affectionate cat," Animal Care and Control Director Cherie Travis said on her Facebook page.
On Wednesday, she added, "the cat, now named Avery, was adopted... and is doing wonderfully with his new family, which includes dogs and cats."
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Roll over the circles to see how the companies line up: ✔ Company meets the criterion ✔ Company only partially meets the criterion ✘ Company fails to meet the criterion.
The companies in the Tiger Challenge are ranked according to the efforts they are making to ensure palm oil in their supply chains is tiger and forest friendly. To ensure they are not linked to forest destruction, companies must be able to answer these five questions with a yes:
Greenpeace reached out to more than 250 consumer companies, all big users of palm oil, in 2013. The Tiger Challenge is based on the information we received from the companies that responded to us, as well as publicly available information.
Palm oil, an ingredient found in nearly half of our supermarket products, is the biggest cause of forest destruction in Indonesia. The Tiger Challenge reveals which global consumers of palm oil are working to ensure that their products are tiger and forest-friendly and which companies are exposing consumers to forest destruction. With as few as 400 Sumatran tigers left in Indonesia, the need for action is urgent.
Procter & Gamble committed to a no deforestation policy in April 2014 as a result of a public campaign by Greenpeace. P&G's new policy builds on the existing RSPO criteria and includes protection of peatland and HCS/HCV areas. Greenpeace will continue to engage with P&G to ensure that this policy is implemented before 2020 and effective action is taken to deal with problematic suppliers. Major brand names: Head & Shoulders, Gillette, Pampers
Colgate Palmolive committed to an ambitious No Deforestation Policy, which aims to have traceability down to plantation by 2015. Colgate's policy goes beyond the RSPO's standards and commits the company to buy only from suppliers that can guarantee their palm oil is produced responsibly. Greenpeace will continue to engage with Colgate to ensure that this policy is implemented before 2020.Major brand names: Colgate, Sanex, Palmolive soaps
Ferrero has one of the most progressive No Deforestation Policies in the sector and has set an ambitious timeline of 2015 for its implementation. It has committed to traceability for all of the palm oil it uses in its products and plans to report publicly on its progress every six months.Major brand names: Ferrero Rocher, Nutella, Kinder Chocolate
General Mills has taken some initiative to map its supply chain and engage with its suppliers, but has made no public commitment to ensure full traceability for the palm oil and derivatives that it uses. Unless it does so, the company has no way of guaranteeing that its products are free from forest destruction.Major brand names: Häagen-Dazs, Cheerios
Godrej is one of India's largest consumer goods companies. It does not have a commitment to implement a No Deforestation Policy. Godrej is an RSPO member. It relies wholly on the RSPO to source whatever sustainable palm oil it buys, and does not have additional criteria to remove forest destruction from its products. Godrej cannot claim to know where its palm oil comes from.Major brand names: Cinthol, Godrej (shaving cream), Genteel
Johnson & Johnson, committed to a No Deforestation policy in April 2014 which aims at sourcing palm oil and derivatives from fully traceable sources. The policy is effective immediately and ensures that J&J only buys from suppliers that can meet their criteria regarding protection of peat, high carbon stocks and high carbon value areas. Greenpeace will continue to engage with J&J to ensure that the implementation of this policy is done in a time bound and ambitious manner.
Kao cosmetics is a brand based in Japan with a global presence. It does not have a commitment to a No Deforestation Policy. According to its 2013 procurement policy, Kao relies completely on RSPO to meets its sustainability criteria. This means the company cannot guarantee that its products are free from forest destruction. Major brand names: Bioré, John Frieda, Molton Brown
Kellogg's, the maker of cereal and other food products, made a recent commitment to implement a No Deforestation Policy with full traceability by 2015. The announcement is the result of campaigning by various civil society organisations. If implemented fully, it will remove deforestation from Kellogg's supply chains, with traceability down to plantation level. Major brand names: Kellogg's, Pringles, Froot Loops
Liby is a Chinese company selling a range of homecare, detergents and personal care products in China and internationally. Although a Consumer Goods Forum (CGF) member, it does not have a commitment to implement a No Deforestation Policy. Liby is not an RSPO member. In response to Greenpeace East Asia, Liby stated that it does not consider deforestation to be an environmental risk to its palm oil supply chain.Major brand names: Liby, Chaowei, Lantian
L'Oréal committed to a No Deforestation Policy in early 2014 and aims to achieve 100% traceability by 2020. While the policy is progressive, the 2020 timeline is unambitious. L'Oréal will report the implementation of this policy in a transparent manner and we will continue to engage with the company to ensure that it implements its policy before 2020.Major brand names: Maybelline, Garnier, Kiehl's
Mars In early 2014, Mars committed to a comprehensive No Deforestation policy including traceable palm oil for all their products and a clear preference for suppliers who can guarantee No Deforestation by 2015. This makes them one of the most progressive buyers of palm oil in the industry. Major brand names: Snickers, Twix, Whiskas
Mondelēz International updated its palm oil sourcing policy in mid-2014, along with a detailed action plan. Mondelēz expects to ensure traceability back to the mill by 2015. The company has mapped its supply chain and promised to proactively address problematic suppliers. However, the current policy does not define High Carbon Stock (HCS) forests - an essential definition to deciding which land can and cannot be developed, and therefore key to putting No Deforestation into practice on the ground. Greenpeace will continue to engage with Mondelēz to ensure effective implementation and the immediate adoption of the HCS approach.Major brand names: Cadbury, Oreo, Côte d'Or
Nestlé became a leader in the industry by committing to a No Deforestation Policy, including 100% traceability, in 2010 following Greenpeace campaigning. Nestlé has started implementing its policy and has been reporting annually on its progress in a transparent manner.Major brand names: Mövenpick, Kit Kat, Maggi
Nice, one of China's top three detergent and toothpaste producers, does not have a commitment to implement a No Deforestation Policy. Nice is not an RSPO member. In response to Greenpeace East Asia, Nice stated that it does not consider deforestation to be an environmental risk to its palm oil supply chain.Major brand names: Diao, Nice, Chaoneng
PepsiCo has no policy in place to ensure that its crisps are not playing a part in tiger habitat destruction. The company relies on the RSPO to fulfil its sustainability requirements, so it cannot guarantee that its products are free from forest destruction.Major brand names: Pepsi, Lay's, Doritos
Reckitt Benckiser has begun to engage with its suppliers to map out where its palm oil comes from. It currently relies on GreenPalm and the RSPO for its sustainability commitments. While the company acknowledges the importance of traceability, its timeline of 2020 is unambitious and its current policy cannot ensure that its products are free from forest destruction.Major brand names: Clearasil, Vanish, Mr Sheen
Unilever committed to a No Deforestation Policy, along with transparent and public reporting of its implementation, in late 2013 and aims to achieve this goal by 2020. Unilever's engagement with its suppliers is a progressive step, but it must not wait until 2020 to guarantee its products are free from forest destruction.Major brand names: Dove, Pepsodent, Persil
Why these companies?
This first selection of consumer companies represents the leading end users of palm oil. They are household names with the power to help transform the palm oil industry. As our ranking reveals, while some are showing industry leadership, others have a long way to go before they can be considered forest and tiger friendly.
Many of these companies are relying on the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil's (RSPO) certification scheme to meet what sustainability commitments they may have. However, RSPO standards fail to ban forest destruction and peatland conversion. If these brands are serious about removing forest destruction from their products, then they must go beyond the RSPO and make a public commitment to implement a No Deforestation Policy.
Most of these companies are also members of the Consumer Goods Forum (CGF) – a group of companies that has committed to no net deforestation by 2020. As this analysis shows, many CGF member companies have a long way to go to achieve this goal.
There are solutions
The palm oil industry is in rapid transformation. Palm oil does not need to be linked to forest destruction.
Big brands can lead the way in protecting Indonesia's forests. Companies must follow the example of leaders such as Nestlé, which is already implementing its No Deforestation Policy, and L'Oréal, Unilever and Ferrero, which have recently announced progressive No Deforestation commitments.
On the ground, there is already a group of progressive producers – the Palm Oil Innovation Group – that is committed to responsible palm oil production.
Find out more here.


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November 30, 2012
WASHINGTON, Nov. 30, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Following is the daily "Profile America" feature from the U.S. Census Bureau:
Profile America — Friday, November 30th. As National American Indian Heritage Month draws to a close, attention is being focused on the increasing role American Indians and Alaska Natives play in the country's economy. Businesses owned by this group grew in a recent five-year period and now number more than 237,000. They generate nearly $34.5 billion in annual revenue. Just over half of these firms are in construction, retail trade, and wholesale trade. The largest number of firms owned by American Indians and Alaska Natives — nearly 46,000 — is in California; Oklahoma and Texas follow. You can find current data on the country's economy — on the go — by downloading the new "America's Economy" mobile application at www.census.gov/mobile.
Sources: U.S. Census Bureau, Facts for Features, CB11-FF.22
Profile America is produced by the Center for New Media and Promotions of the U.S. Census Bureau. These daily features are available as produced segments, ready to air, on a monthly CD or on the Internet at http://www.census.gov/ (look for "Multimedia Gallery" by the "Newsroom" button).
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A smoker from Seattle heads to Bali to train as a yoga teacher, providing an entertaining voice to her doubts and inner rebellion.
Morrison followed Indra, her beautiful blond yoga teacher, and her mind-reading husband Lou, to a remote Indonesian village for a two-month training program. While there, the author struggled with the austere lifestyle and faced unresolved spiritual issues from her Catholic youth. Upon discovering her beloved guru's flaws, Morrison became disillusioned with yogic teachings and began drinking milkshakes in an act of rebellion, leading to open resistance and rejection of the higher path, and returned to America disappointed to be the same woman. Ten years later, Morrison found herself in New York, still unforgiving of the yoga world. She humorously dismisses the urban yoga scene, calling the practice "yogaerobics," the teachers "celebriyogis" and the boutiques "sacred schwag." Optimistic despite her constant questioning, Morrison reflects on her time as "a real yogi in Bali," and finally is able to forgive her teachers their humanity and move toward acceptance. Though her love life provides the framework for her story and decisions, the author candidly describes her thoughts in detail, whether selfish, cynical or mushy, without professing a message or conquering her own dualistic world view, allowing the reader to participate in her processes along the way.
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Join President Virginia Dominguez in honoring this year's award winners. The ceremony will be held in Room 516CD at the Palais des Congrès today from 19:45-21:00.
The 2011 AAA Award Winners include:
Bonnie Pitblado – AAA/Oxford University Press Award for Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching of Anthropology
Helen E. Fisher – Anthropologist in Media Award (AIME)
Mark Nichter – Robert B. Textor and Family Prize for Excellence in Anticipatory Anthropology
Shankari Patel – AAA Minority Dissertation Fellowship
Amy Moran-Thomas – David M. Schneider Award
Frances Norwood – Margaret Mead Award
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Patrol info for U-468
Date lookup for 25 May 1943
|Arrival / Fate
|19 Apr 1943
|La Pallice
|29 May 1943
|La Pallice
|41 days
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Oblt. Klemens Schamong
U-468's position on 25 May 1943
Wolfpack operations during this patrol
U-468 operated with the following Wolfpacks during this patrol
Amsel (29 Apr 1943 - 3 May 1943)
Amsel 3 (3 May 1943 - 6 May 1943)
Rhein (7 May 1943 - 10 May 1943)
Elbe 1 (10 May 1943 - 14 May 1943)
Mosel (19 May 1943 - 23 May 1943)
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