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This page is here to answer all things Java related to OpenEmbedded.
- 1 State of support
- 2 A word of warning
- 3 Configuring (add info about what and where)
- 3.1 Bootstrap process
- 3.2 Bootstrap virtual machine aka virtual/java-initial
- 3.3 Native virtual machine aka virtual/java-native
- 3.4 Native Java compiler aka virtual/javac-native
- 3.5 Target virtual machine
- 3.6 GNU Classpath for headless machines aka classpath-minimal
- 4 Writing a Java recipe
- 5 Information on specific libraries
- 6 Caveats, known issues, hints, miscellaneous information
- 7 Future plans
State of support
Virtual machine and class library
Currently (since September 2008) you will be able to build packages for your target system that use a many VMs and their class libraries. For a full J2SE environment on the target you can build JamVM and Cacao as the virtual machine and GNU Classpath as the class library.
For J2ME you can have the "Connected Device Configuration" (CDC) in either the "Foundation" or "Personal" profile using the GPLed PhoneME Advanced virtual machine. See below for details.
For J2ME's "Mobile Information Device Profile" (MIDP2.0) you can use MIDPath.
Support for OpenJDK (with either Cacao or Hotspot/Zero as the runtime) is available through the Jalimo overlay. This will be merged soon. Future additions will also include Hotspot/Shark which is a variant of Hotspot using a generic JIT compiler based on LLVM.
It is planned to use OpenJDK as the native Java runtime. That way Java packages will be compiled against this library.
Java libraries
The number of available Java libraries is still small but can grow quickly as the necessary infrastructure is in place. Currently libraries such as dbus-java, kxml2, libmatthew, librxtx, sqlitejdbc, javasqlite, woodstox, xmlpull, SWT (3.4, Gtk+), a large bunch of the Jakarta commons libraries and stuff like BSF, POI, log4j, logkit and ORO are available.
For the Maemo platform's "hildon" environment special SWT packages are available which allow a better integration (i.e. hildon menus, hildon file chooser dialog).
PhoneME Advanced
PhoneME Advanced is provided in the 'Foundation' and 'Personal' profile through the recipes phoneme-advanced-foundation and (surprise!) phoneme-advanced-personal. The way the recipes are written both can be compiled and installed at the same time on the target device.
Note: At the moment the personal profile's AWT support relies on Qt3 which is heavily outdated. If possible you should prefer the foundation profile with SWT for the GUI or contribute to PhoneME to fix this. :)
When a PhoneME Advanced package is installed you will find the VM in $libdir_jvm (which is /usr/lib/jvm by default). The package provides a java-cdc symlink which is changeable through update-alternatives and a cvm-<profile name> symlink.
J2ME MIDP2.0 is supported through the MIDPath project. MIDPath provides the neccessary libraries (taken from PhoneME and/or the respective JSRs) and OpenEmbedded has direct support for a few devices (e.g. button mappings). Please note that while MIDPath can run most MIDP2.0 programs it is no official MIDP2.0 implementation.
MIDPath can be run on top of either PhoneME Advanced or a J2SE-like environment (JamVM/Cacao and GNU Classpath or any of the OpenJDK variants). If PhoneME is installed it is preferred.
OpenJDK is the name of the F/OSS Java stack from Sun. It normally consists of the class library (often referred to as OpenJDK as well), the Hotspot runtime and many many tools (e.g. javah, rmic, javaws). OpenEmbedded support building OpenJDK with the CacaoVM. This gives many platforms which Hotspot does not directly support a fast Java VM. Please note that Cacao lacks many advanced features like JVMTI. Your only other option is the Zero port of Hotspot. Zero is a C++-based interpreter and can be run on any platform supporting libffi. This gives you a featurefull VM for many platforms at the cost of performance.
In order to build Java packages no virtual machine needs to be installed on the build machine. OpenEmbedded builds everything on its own.
Missing but planned to be included are popular Java build tools like Ant.
GNU Classpath Tools
Included in the package classpath-native are the tools 'gjar', 'gjavah', 'gjavap', 'gjarsigner' (and soon gjdoc). Those tools usually work without problems and should be fully compatible to the ones provided by OpenJDK.
OpenJDK language tools
OpenEmbedded supports the OpenJDK language tools consisting of 'sun-javac', 'javap', 'javah' and 'apt'. Put 'openjdk-langtools-native' to the dependencies of your recipe to use those binaries. Albeit the tools are from OpenJDK they run on Cacao/JamVM and GNU Classpath.
Note: openjdk-langtools-native is not a provider of 'virtual/javac-native' it only provides a 'sun-javac' binary. Refer to the virtual/javac-native discussion for details.
Ant is an often used tool in the Java world. Even OpenJDK uses it. Unfortunately it is also a complex beast with many dependencies (many of which use Ant itself). Despite all this troubles Ant (1.7.1) is available and supported as an application which can be run from build recipes.
A word of warning
Every so often people on the net suggest that in order to get Java stuff running in OpenEmbedded, you need to install a JDK, Kaffe or Jikes and then make modifications to the PATH variable in order to allow the build use the runtime or compiler. These suggestions are wrong! The Java support in OpenEmbedded is (and strives to stay) completely self-hosting. You should not need a single bit of Java on your host OS to get the Java recipes to compile.
On the other hand the Java support in OE can happily co-exist with whatever 'java', 'javac' and other tools you might have installed in your OS. Due to the nature of some configure scripts, those will sometimes find these executables but in the end only the tools from OpenEmbedded's staging directory will be used (if not its a bug that needs to be fixed).
Please note that problem reports that are caused by pulling in native Java tools (those from your OS) into the OpenEmbedded build process will be closed as invalid. The reason is that the recipes are only supposed to work with the built-in toolchain.
Configuring (add info about what and where)
In this section you learn about the things you can set up. In many OpenEmbedded-based distributions some or most of these decision may have already been made for you so there is no need to specify them. However in case you want to provide the Java support in your distribution you need to know which knobs are available.
Bootstrap process
As told in the toolchain support section the whole Java support in OpenEmbedded is self-hosting. This mean you do not need to have any bit of Java on your build machine as OpenEmbedded will build this itself.
This bootstrap process contains the following steps: At first jikes-native is compiled which is a Java 1.4-capable compiler that does not need a runtime or (strictly) a class library to work. With this compiler we compile the initial runtime (package virtual/java-initial).
virtual/java-initial is a preliminary runtime. This virtual package is currently provided by cacao-initial or jamvm-initial. After that ecj-initial is built. At that point we have a 1.5-capable compiler running on a Java 1.4 compatible VM.
The compiler is then used to build virtual/java-native and finally virtual/javac-native. The former virtual package is provided by either cacao-native or jamvm-native. The latter package is currently only provided through ecj-bootstrap-native. Having built these packages provides the OpenEmbedded build environment with a Java5-capable compiler and runtime. At that point we are ready to compile any other Java package.
Bootstrap virtual machine aka virtual/java-initial
The bootstrap virtual machine has the sole purpose of running ecj-initial (the bootstrap compiler) to compile a 1.5-capable runtime and library. The bootstrap VM runs on your build host and is therefore a -native package. Inside the native staging directory the VM provides a 'java-initial' executable.
As told above there are currently two packages that provide 'virtual/java-native'. Add
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/java-initial = "cacao-initial" PREFERRED_VERSION_cacao-initial = "0.98"
to your local or site configuration to choose the Cacao VM. This virtual machine has a JIT compiler and is generally faster but takes a bit longer to compile. Furthermore this VM is only tested to work correctly on X86 build hosts. If you chose Cacao there will also be a 'cacao-initial' binary in your native staging directory.
Note: There is a problem with Cacao 0.98 running on recent distributions where mmaping the zero page is not allowed. Chose jamvm-initial (see below) if you do not want to change the vm_mmap_min_adr restriction on your system.
In case Cacao is unsuitable for you add
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/java-initial = "jamvm-initial" PREFERRED_VERSION_jamvm-initial = "1.4.5"
to your configuration. JamVM is an interpreting Java virtual machine. Despite interpreting only it is very fast (implements many modern interpreter techniques) and compiles quickly. Furthermore it is known to work on X86 and PowerPC build hosts.
Native virtual machine aka virtual/java-native
As for virtual/java-initial this virtual package provides a Java virtual machine which runs on your build host. Its purpose is to run any Java programs that are needed during your build process. The most prominent program that it is supposed to run is the compiler ECJ. The virtual/java-native package provides a 'java' binary inside the native staging directory. At the moment you can chose between two runtimes: Cacao and JamVM.
As for the general features it is the same as for java-initial. However for virtual/java-native later versions of the VMs are used so stability and platform support is better. For instance you can use cacao-native on PowerPC as well since the version of Cacao used properly supports it.
To chose Cacao add the following line to your configuration:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/java-native = "cacao-native"
Besides 'java' cacao-native install a 'cacao' binary into the native staging directory.
If you favor JamVM (or are having trouble with Cacao) use:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/java-native = "jamvm-native"
There will also be a 'jamvm' binary in native staging directory besides the 'java' one with jamvm-native.
Note: Native versions of jamvm are unsupported on amd64/x86_64 hosts since OpenEmbedded lacks a native libffi. If you desperately need jamvm on your platform consider installing the development package for libffi of your distro.
Native Java compiler aka virtual/javac-native
The virtual/javac-native package provides the 'javac' binary which is to be found within the native staging directory. This compiler is used to build all of the Java packages within OpenEmbedded.
There are two recipes which provide this functionality:
ecj-bootstrap-native uses the commandline variant of the Eclipse IDE's integrated compiler. In order to use that compiler add the following to your configuration:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/javac-native = "ecj-bootstrap-native"
The second option is OpenJDK's Java compiler which is the F/OSS variant of good old 'javac'. If you experience trouble with ecj you should try OpenJDK's Java compiler by setting the following in your configuration:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/javac-native = "openjdk-javac-native"
Note: OpenJDK's javac is actually build in the package openjdk-language-tools-native (provides a 'sun-javac' binary). The reason for this is to allow 'ecj-bootstrap-native' and 'openjdk-language-tools-native' to coexist in the staging dir.
ecj-bootstrap-native, ecj-initial and libecj-bootstrap
Since ecj-initial and ecj-bootstrap-native use the same jar file the compilation step for both packages is done through in the libecj-bootstrap recipe. Therefore in order to decide which ECJ version to use for compilation you need to set a version preference for that recipe:
PREFERRED_VERSION_libecj-bootstrap = "3.4"
Target virtual machine
Note: There used to be a virtual/java package. It turned out that by having this it prevented offering multiple J2SE-compatible VMs for the target device.
From a distributors point of view you can build the jamvm, cacao, phoneme or openjdk recipes and provide them to your users. Those can then either install the packages directly by its name or rely on a chosing of the packaging.
At the moment Cacao and JamVM are supported runtimes. Cacao is ready for x86, PowerPC and ARM systems (others are untested and AVR32 is not suppported) and has a JIT compiler. JamVM can be used on x86, PowerPC, ARM and MIPS. PhoneME Advanced should support x86, PowerPC, ARM, MIPS and Sparc.
Additionally OpenJDK can be built using either Cacao (same properties as above) or the Zero port of Hotspot. Zero is an C++-based interpreter capable of running on any platform that is supported by libffi.
When installed all J2SE runtimes provide the 'java' executable (chosen through update-alternatives). PhoneME Advanced gives you a 'java-cdc' executable.
Runtime provider
Warning: When we talk of 'runtime provider' here this is meant in the OpenEmbedded sense (PROVIDES = build provides, RPROVIDES = runtime provides) The Cacao, JamVM or OpenJDK packages are set to provide 'java2-runtime'. Packages which need a J2SE-capable VM should RDEPEND on this. By inheriting the 'java-library' class in your recipe this is done automatically.
PhoneME on the other hand is set to provide 'java-cdc-runtime'.
GNU Classpath for headless machines aka classpath-minimal
Through setting the provider for 'classpath' you can decide whether you build a full class library with support for AWT/Swing (having a gtk+ dependency) or a variant that works without that and is primarily meant for headless devices. It might also be handy if you decide not to use AWT/Swing and use SWT instead. To chose the minimal variant add this to your configuration:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_classpath = "classpath-minimal"
Otherwise you need to add this line:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_classpath = "classpath"
Currently the Angstrom distribution does not set a preference and you have to provide your own.
Writing a Java recipe
This section is going to tell you, how to write a proper recipe to build a Java library or program.
At the moment this is a stub and you will only find some scattered information which at a later point will be merged into a consistent whole.
If you use the java-library bbclass in a recipe foo and generate a native variant (e.g. foo-native) you should use
inherit java-native
instead of native. By doing so, you make sure, that any jars created by the recipe are properly installed into staging.
If you need Ant to build your recipe add ant-native to your recipes dependencies. This will allow you to call the built-in Ant executable.
Information on specific libraries
swt3.4-gtk and swt3.4-gtk-hildon
Some effort has been done to integrate Gtk+-based SWT 3.4 into the Hildon environment (that is what Maemo provides). Distributions targeting Maemo should set the preferred provider for swt3.4-gtk like this:
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_swt3.4-gtk = "swt3.4-gtk-hildon"
Important: If you do not want the hildon variant it is best to declare
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_swt3.4-gtk = "swt3.4-gtk"
as well. So bitbake will not chose the wrong one by accident (which would otherwise pull in all kinds of unwanted dependencies).
Caveats, known issues, hints, miscellaneous information
Version suggestions
Everyone and his dog knows that combining glibc 2.8, gcc 2.95 and Linux kernel 2.6.26 is not going to work. In the GNU Classpath realm we also have a set of versions that do not fit together. Here are some suggestions for your PREFERRED_VERSIONs. Stick to these if you are unsure. You can always find out which version are supposed to be compatible by reading the READMEs of the VMs.
jamvm-initial and classpath-initial
Use this and nothing else:
PREFERRED_VERSION_jamvm-initial = "1.4.5" PREFERRED_VERSION_classpath-initial = "0.93"
cacao-initial and classpath-initial
Use this and nothing else:
PREFERRED_VERSION_cacao-initial = "0.98" PREFERRED_VERSION_classpath-initial = "0.93"
jamvm[-native] and classpath[-native]
These are the releases that appear to be stable.
PREFERRED_VERSION_jamvm-native = "1.5.3" PREFERRED_VERSION_classpath-native = "0.98"
For the target device:
PREFERRED_VERSION_jamvm = "1.5.2" PREFERRED_VERSION_classpath = "0.98"
cacao[-native] and classpath[-native]
These releases appear to be stable:
PREFERRED_VERSION_cacao-native = "0.99.3" PREFERRED_VERSION_classpath-native = "0.97.2"
For the target device take these:
PREFERRED_VERSION_cacao = "0.99.4" PREFERRED_VERSION_classpath = "0.98"
PREFERRED_VERSION_libecj-bootstrap = "3.4"
Extra binaries and symlinks
Since both Cacao and JamVM can be installed in staging you can use this and modify the 'java' or 'java-initial' symlink if you want to switch to a certain VM.
Debugging Cacao on the target
You need to debug the Cacao JVM on your target device using GDB and need some pointers on how to get started? Read this page from the Jalimo Wiki.
Future plans
Default Bytecode compliance level
Soon an option will be introduced to set the default bytecode compliance level. For any Java package that does not explicitly provide this level (not many do this) the one you set in your configuration will be used.
OpenJDK + Cacao
The flexibility of the Cacao runtime allows it to run it with OpenJDK's class library. This allows you to use the official class library and a JIT-capable runtime on an ARM device (as of today Hotspot has no JIT on ARM).
Since the middle of August 2008 OpenJDK + Cacao can be build and is included in the Debian armel sid repositories (package cacao-oj6-sdk). Xerxes Rånby is showing some webbapplets running using OpenJDK + CACAO on his blog: http://labb.zafena.se/?p=1
Since December 2008 OpenJDK + Cacao can be crosscompiled with OpenEmbedded as demonstrated by Robert Schuster! Check out http://rschuster.blogs.evolvis.org/2008/12/21/serving-cross-compiled-openjdk-with-icedtea/ and the answers http://rschuster.blogs.evolvis.org/2008/12/23/comments-on-latest-post-on-openjdk/
Ant integration for build recipes
Although ant can be used as a standalone tool there is no direct support for it in the recipe. E.g. the Debian buildsystem (CDBS) has support classes that can be used for Ant-based Java sourcepackages. It would be nice to have this too for OpenEmbedded.
This space is for *your* questions and those that appeared more often on the mailing list. Things will be added here by the Jalimo folk/OE-Java maintainers or by you asking a question.
Q: I do get all these editions, configurations and profiles that exist in the Java world wrong. Any pointer on this?
I found these articles in Wikipedia helpful to clarify the situation Java platform, Java ME.
Q: I need to solve a specific Java problem in OE and want to throw money at this. Whom can I contact?
The Jalimo project has done a lot of Java work in OE and are available for contract work. You can also ask for experienced devs on the openembedded-devel mailing list.


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Thursday, November 5, 2009
Comic 658: SEXcruciating!
YES, the word "exclusion" starts with the prefix "ex-" which can, I will admit, be modified to become "sex-" and sex, as you may be aware, is hilarious. It is a guaranteed laugh, because everyone is so awkward about it! So you can always always always tap into that awkwardness for Laffs A Plenty. Obviously, xkcd does this very often. That's why it is so funny!
So what could be funnier than taking something not usually about sex - the Pauli exclusion principle - and making it be all about sex? It is perfect. It fulfills the XKCD Paradox Of Nerdiness - being about science, so it is nerdy, but being about basic high school science, so everyone can feel good about themselves for getting the joke. Heck, even I get the joke and I basically know nothing about chemistry.
God, seriously though, how lame was this joke? Don't we all talk about the concept of being "sexiled" when a roommate is having sex, forcing one to sleep elsewhere? I assume I am not the only one who has heard this word. "Sexiled" is a far funnier word than "Sexclusion" - for one thing, being kicked out of your room because of Sexy Times inside is much closer to being "exiled" than to being "excluded" - after all, how many people actually want to be included in the sex? Basically none, right? I mean, no one is like "Ugh, my roommate is having sex and excluding me from it" they are more like "ugh, my roommate has driven me into EXILE." Also, the word just sounds smoother - following the "ex" sound immediately with a hard C is much more awkward than following it with a long I. That just flows nicer. What I'm trying to say is that this comic is a pale shadow of a joke that everyone already knows and uses.
Not that that will stop Randall from making more jokes like these. That's why I want to help him out. Each of the following words has had the word "sex" cleverly added into it. Each one could be the subject of its own great comic, or even, if you work real hard, a 5 part series.
extra --> SEXtra!
extraterrestrial --> SEXtraterrestrial!
extracurricular --> SEXtracurricular!
extortion --> SEXtortion!
extraneous --> SEXtraneous!
exit --> SEXit!
ex-wife --> SEX-wife!
explanation --> SEXplanation!
exhibit --> SEXhibit!
God, so many great jokes here. Tell me some other good words in the comments.
150 comments:
So would you call your further joke suggestions a SEXtrapolation of Randall's idea? Eh?ReplyDelete
haha! that's SEXcellent! thanks carl!ReplyDelete
meanwhile: i liked comic #659.
- AnonymousNovember 5, 2009 at 10:17 PM
There is a bot in #xkcd that has, for a while now, automatically changed sentences with words like "excercise" to "sexercise," but only a percentage of the time.ReplyDelete
Guys, I think these puns are being used too SEXcessively.ReplyDelete
That would be Bucket. Who is like, the best bot ever. Too bad the channel is crap.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Randall didn't invent the term sexclusion. In fact, the definitions on Urban Dictionary date back to November '06.ReplyDelete
New comic: Don't you love how in randall's mind,everything he says blows everyone's minds. I don't think the idea that the value we put into objects make them more important than the sum of their parts is a new or profound idea. Also, the last row of panels and the alt text don't really add anything new or different to the idea set out in the first row. Though the last panel reminded me of a DJ Shadow song, which is much better than anything that xkcd has put together.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM
The comics could be taking place in Sexeter, sexplaining all the quirky behaviour.ReplyDelete
I thought today's XKCD was... sort of okay. I'm amenable to the idea that patterns are more than just their parts, and that organ donation is good. So it presents ideas that I'm sympathetic to. It doesn't present them well, but even so, I'm less inclined to be hateful.ReplyDelete
The Pauli exclusion principle is "basic high school science"? What the heck kind of supergenius high school did you go to?ReplyDelete
Even if it is taught at the high school level (which I sure don't remember it being), surely it's quite beyond being considered a "basic" topic?
- AnonymousNovember 5, 2009 at 11:47 PM
I think most high school chemistry classes would discuss why alkali metals get along so well with halogens, why carbon only has four numbers in its circle, why the noble gases keep to themselves, and why hydrogen is such a slut. At the very least, the Pauli exclusion principle should come up when discussing the periodic table of the elements.ReplyDelete
I'm not entirely sure I get the new comic, though. Does she want to become a train instead of a house? Did she previously feel that she would be less dead if she weren't parted out?
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Hey, I was just wondering if people had seen this site: http://xkcdexplained.com/ReplyDelete
and what you all thought of it? It seems pretty funny and sarcastic to me.
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 12:03 AM
"Upon completion of detailed character timelines for three of the most well known geek movies (Asperger syndrome), the author realized that a humorous punch-line was necessary in order to publish these charts as a comic strip."ReplyDelete
Get out of Carl's head, other sarcastic bloggers!
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 12:04 AM
If there was a placeholder thread for the new comic, I would post in it.ReplyDelete
I think the joke is not too bad...
The comic itself however, is terribad. two beat panels? really?
Alt text is acceptable
I liked the new comic. And I think two beat panels was the right number to convey how it's striking her.ReplyDelete
I'm kind of surprised at a comic so overtly pro-naturalism, but that's more because even the most SHOCKING! media tends to either tread lightly around the subject and pander to whoever was slighted at every turn (or else be so heavy-handed in either direction as to be obnoxious even to people who agree with the premise). Which is part of why I like the comic.
What pisses me off are the people on the xkcd forums who seem to believe there's a cosmic difference between marking a box with a checkmark or with an X.
so who wants to bet that xkcd fanatics are going to be all over the "in popular culture" section of the "Ship of Theseus" article in Wikipedia now?ReplyDelete
Also, since the pieces are still fundamentally the same, the house is still "in the bin". They are both correct, but I still get the impression that male stickfigure is being a bit of a douche towards her (probably because she can actually make things with lego and he can't :P)
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Embarrassingly, I didn't understand 659 until xkcdexplained explained it to me. I thought she had gone to change the adult's driver's license as revenge for making her think, or something. Some kind of indication as to where she was in the bottom half of the comic would have been nice.ReplyDelete
Do you think they'll actually know about the Ship of Theseus if somebody doesn't point it out to them?ReplyDelete
I think I've seen Sexhibition as a name of a porn movie.ReplyDelete
Also, the new one? Does not really comprehend. Is the joke here that humans don't exist, so they're all organs, so she's agreeing to donate her organs, as in... wait... that's actually kinda amusing. Definitely more than an XKCD chuckle. Not very good, but definitely okay.
- BLANDCorporatioNovember 6, 2009 at 3:05 AM
Sexcalibur Sextraordinnaire.ReplyDelete
Sexquisite; sexquisitor, for extra-nerdiness.
SExxon Mobile.
Sexhaustion. May lead to sexpiration. One of the parties may be sexculpable and require sexpiation.
For set theory, sextension.
Sexpat. I'm pretty proud of this one, so it must be used already.
And from extant, sextant. No, wait ...
The state of my sex life is comparable to the state of the Sexxon Valdez.ReplyDelete
I'm sort of torn on the new comic. The huge speech about the lego bricks is cumbersome, heavyhanded and pretty obnoxious, ESPECIALLY delivered to a kid. It terribly, terribly reeks of geeky superiority complex. But the overall conclusion and cause of the comic is pretty good. I think, in a way, it's quite poignant, and I think it works far better if you don't take it as a "joke". Maybe I'm too sensitive towards the subject of organ donations, and I don't know how it's seen in the US, but I'm quite partial towards things that raise awareness to it in a thoughtful manner.ReplyDelete
Overall, I think the comic would be FAR better if, instead of dumping a lecture by some arrogant, obnoxious fella, Randally presented a discussion between two kids whether the house is in the box or not, with the latter argument prevailing.
By the way, Carl, I'm pretty sure you can make a very SEXtensive list of jokes!ReplyDelete
Pauli Exclusion Principle is High School chemistry, yes. They obviously do not go into the quantum physics of why this happens, but I'm sure I had to do some good deal of electronic distribution.ReplyDelete
So, the new xkcd is not meant to be funny, it seems. I think it's for good that this will probably drive many "GOOMH" fans to become organ donors, but enough about the moral values of this instance. I do think it has a beat panel more than it needed, and xkcd's usual "simplistic" art makes it difficult to realize if that talk on the top panels was done minutes or year before what happens on the bottom row. Also: why does she carry Lego pieces with her all the time? The same message could be conveyed with a thought bubble.
All in all, I'm not SEXempt of agreeing this is a good comic, though. I think when Randall is not trying to be funny he actually does a good job.
The trouble with the latest comic that it comes off like the guy put the organ donor card over on the table and then gave a heavyhanded metaphorical speech and probably looked meaningfully back at the table afterward. Although just now I'm realizing that she's probably supposed to be remembering the first row of panels - when the only way to show someone aging is to make them taller, it's very easy for it to look like the camera's zoomed in and they fill more of the panel. IAW Fernie that it should have been a conversation between two kids.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 7:09 AM
That's not the Exclusion principle? A proper joke based on it would be something like only males and females may share room, where the sexes represent the different spins on electrons.ReplyDelete
- Saint CadNovember 6, 2009 at 7:24 AM
As disappointing as XKCD has been, this one was sextraordinary. I interpreted the last panel as Douchey McDouche being anti-organdonation (take it with you) but after his his sexplanation, she realizes his hypocracy and makes him an organ donor. Just imagine if hes right and he has to spend eternity hunting up his organs and sexcising them from the living. HA HA! Good times for all. I can see the other side where for the first time, she sees organs as a sextraneous sextravagance after death and decides to do the "right thing" and become an organ donor. Is this RanDull sextolling a virtue of the ultimate charity? Don't worry, he'll make up one with Megan providing Roman charity (how's that for an obscure allusion? Fell free to use it in a future strip RanDULL) Either way, a very deep comic which shows that when a little sextra thought is put into it, RanDULL can still make a decent comic.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 7:38 AM
I like Saint Cad's interpretation of her marking his ID.ReplyDelete
Sexperience tells us not to put an S in front of exist, lest White Knight Randall appear.
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM
http://xkcdexplained.com/ is far more humorus than this siteReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM
counterpoint: though I do like the dry humour of xkcdexplained, their post for this comic did not contain the word "SEX-wife!". It is also by nature lacking in the fiery vitriol I have come to sexpect from xkcdsucks.ReplyDelete
guys, the only reason that I read xkcd is because the sites that mock it are so much fun!
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 10:29 AM
This joke also fails on a scientific level. In the Pauli Exclusion Principle, the electrons do not share orbitals unless there is no more room at the same energy level. As someone who was one of two people on my dorm floor one night and the other was right next to me, I can tell you that romantic pairings do not share a similar arrangement.ReplyDelete
I can't believe everybody has passed on the most obvious one yet: sexkcd.ReplyDelete
Anyway I disagree with the comic in many ways but it being a "ridiculously bad pun about science" is not one of them, since science is one of the four 'pillars' of xkcd (although I guess so is romance but he manages to consistantly screw that up).
re: the last comic: why the guy is imparting such "wisdom" to a kid playing with lego makes no sense to me.
--"In the Pauli Exclusion Principle, the electrons do not share orbitals unless there is no more room at the same energy level."ReplyDelete
Is that not the Aufbau Principle? IIRC, the Pauli exclusion principle merely states that the wave functions of fermions are antisymmetric, i.e. that fermions are space-filling; it doesn't say anything in particular about the order in which orbitals are filled, only that they DO have to be filled at some point.
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM
So the lonely guy in the couch is having a .... sexistential momentReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Would you suggest that Randall's humor is getting sexponentially less sexciting?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 12:05 PM
The Aufbau principle tells you how to build up energy levels, e.g.
2s 2p
3s 3p 3d, ... so you go from 1s->2s->2p->3p->4s->3d, etc.
4s 4p 4d 4f
So it can't be the Aufbau ("build up" literally) principle.
On a related note, there's no way in hell I'd let my roommate sexile me. They can go rent a hotel for all I care. >:|
This is my favourite post on xkcdexplained.com:ReplyDelete
"The trick here is that you're reading out loud and thigh sounds like eye.
It is assumed that the author does not like brown-skinned people."
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM
What I learned from today's discussion: fan service can totally redeem an xkcd comic.ReplyDelete
Sam - People also passed on the opportunity for a meta joke in the previous comic (try mapping out an xkcd).
he changed the alt text. It used to read somehting like "And then someone drunk and hot stumbles in and someone's out on the porch." now it's differentReplyDelete
Dragon is right but it still said closet or something I think, not porch. And still it had to do with someone being paired up with a drunkard coming home late, but it was changed.ReplyDelete
True, dragon. I'd never imagine Randall would change the alt-text...ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Uh oh, Fernie liked this one. On Monday, the police will find Randall murdered in his apartment with "Fernie Canto" scribbled all over the walls by way of compensation.ReplyDelete
Because Fernie knows that consistent opinions and sane behavior is for ASSHOLES.
Thanks for this blog. I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that Randal comes across as a conceited, preachy, condescending asshole. Not only that, but his cartoons are about as funny as cancer. I'd rather read For Better Or For Worse.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Surely we have notability after Batman HIMSELF approves of us?ReplyDelete
dude, cancer is hilariousReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Pauli's first name was WolfgangReplyDelete
Not only is it not right, it's not even wrong.
"...Don't we all talk about the concept of being "sexiled" when a roommate is having sex, forcing one to sleep elsewhere?..."
Those of us unfortunate enough to have had a roommate that is......innit?
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM
"..sex....It is a guaranteed laugh, because everyone is so awkward about it!..."ReplyDelete
Not me!
i'm assuming he changed the alt text because "PEOPLE MIGHT THINK I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DRUNK PEOPLE"ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 7:31 PM
@dragon, yeah he must be trying to cover his ass after that whole "I'M COMPARING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NUMBERS PORTRAYED BY THE NEWS MEDIA TO HOW I WOULD LIKE TO GET MYSELF AND DAUGHTERS EVERYWHERE DRUNK SO I CAN RAPE THEM"ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Sam: "I can't believe everybody has passed on the most obvious one yet: sexkcd."ReplyDelete
That is because it's been done before.
Geez, all you had to do was do a find on "sexkcd" on any xkcd sux page.
Anon: Oh, right. Aufbau deals with orbitals of different energy, Hund's Rule deals with orbitals of the same energy. My bad. Not Randall's, though.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM
I'm sorry, but I might have to abandon this site for xkcdexplained.com. Not only do they repost all the comics large enough for me to read them (thus sparing me the hassle of clicking through and granting me the spiteful joy of denying Randall hits), but they coldly refer to Randall only as "the author".ReplyDelete
Anon 9:20, you are a self-important, pseudo-intellectual fuckwit excuse for a troll. You lack the conviction or fire to be truly inflamatory while simultaneously lacking anything substantive enoguh to even spark debate you vacuous, non-contributing zero.ReplyDelete
- BLANDCorporatioNovember 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Ouch. But you forgot the part where you say they have no friends and should take a long ride on the gravity express.ReplyDelete
- BLANDCorporatioNovember 7, 2009 at 12:35 AM
PS: {not on-topic, but about comments) so I was trying to post the above message. Pop, the window with the captcha appears, and I decide I need a last minute edit.ReplyDelete
So I close the preview, do the edit, and click the post comment button again.
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 12:36 AM
WTH? Anyway, as I was saying before the message got snipped was that on the second time the post was added immediately, with no captcha required.ReplyDelete
"@dragon, yeah he must be trying to cover his ass after that whole 'I'M COMPARING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NUMBERS PORTRAYED BY THE NEWS MEDIA TO HOW I WOULD LIKE TO GET MYSELF AND DAUGHTERS EVERYWHERE DRUNK SO I CAN RAPE THEM'"ReplyDelete
what was the coverup for that one?
Not completely. He got me to go to xkcdexplained and find this, which is funnier than the comic itself;
The author read about the Pauli exclusion principle on Wikipedia and quickly realized that the word "exclusion" could be combined with the word "sex" to create a new word: "sexclusion." This was the comedic spark he needed in order to create another scientific-concept-transposed-into-real-life cartoon.
Incidentally, man, when did xkcdexplained turn anti-xkcd?ReplyDelete
xkcdexplained is newReplyDelete
you are probably thinking of http://www.explainxkcd.com/
oh. Well, I like this.ReplyDelete
Dragon, I was referring to comic 558 "1000 Times" where he says that "the difference between a million and a billion is the difference between me having a sip of wine and 30 seconds with your daughter and a bottle of gin and a night with her"...ReplyDelete
Maybe he's not technically covering anything up, but considering the implications of that, that's pretty fucked up wouldn't you say
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Holy shit, there's a site dedicated to insulting someone's comic. XKCD is overrated, but this site is pathetic. What a waste of time.ReplyDelete
- Maximillion MultibucksNovember 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM
The cuddlefish has brought up a truly original talking point that no other cuddlefish has. Invigorating!ReplyDelete
- WilhelmNovember 7, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Randall, get laid already.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Are there people who don't check the organ donor box for non-religious reasons?ReplyDelete
I'd never really though that people just secularly dismissed it, or had any axiological objection to it.
I'd hesitate to be judgemental, but this comic sort of gives off a "I am a philosopher and you are a plebian" vibe, which is especially annoying because of the rudimentary nature of the philosophy in question.
Come to think of it, philosophers would be members of the plebs, wouldn't they? Something to think about, at least.
I think some people just feel generically squicky about it.ReplyDelete
- Owen MartinNovember 7, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Dear carl,ReplyDelete
Get a life. If you feel it necessary to write four paragraphs every day or two on how something sucks you probably should just kill yourself. How anyone could live and be that negative is beyond me. End your misery.
This comment has been removed by the author.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Aw, it's so cute how the XKCD fanboys love it so much they're willing to casually tell people they don't even know to kill themselves! I love how caring and concerned they are that they don't even pay any thought to how callous and insensitive suicide jokes are--so consumed are they by their wild emotions of rage that someone dare dislike their comic.ReplyDelete
- Owen MartinNovember 7, 2009 at 10:12 PM
And also If you hate them why do you read them allReplyDelete
If you hate the blog so much why do you read it?ReplyDelete
In YOUR case it's because you're an emotionally stunted idiot. In our case it's because it's fun to make fun of them.
- Owen MartinNovember 7, 2009 at 10:18 PM
I was not telling him to kill himself because he doesn't Like xkcd I don't give two shits what any of you think I was telling him to kill himself because I don't understand how any one would be so negative that they have to find an outlet and talk about how something sucks analytically and want to keep on livingReplyDelete
- Owen MartinNovember 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM
i don't I just like to see how little i have to type to make people angryReplyDelete
I'm not angry I just think you're a useless human being. Angry is something I reserve for full humans. Run along now and go tell an emo kid to cut himself, that's real classy.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Did you know that a large number of pacificst groups in the 1840s and 1850s fought in the Civil War with the justification that Southerners were not human? It's true! Even some Quakers.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM
listen your not understanding what he was saying he talking about negativity and how if your fine and you want to be NEGATIVE all the time you arn't a person who anyone wants to be around other than miserable people. have fun in all your negativity and and misery ASSHOLESReplyDelete
I'm actually having a great deal of fun here. You're the only one who appears to be unhappy at the moment.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 7, 2009 at 10:33 PM
misery loves companyReplyDelete
OH NOES A CLICHE WHAT AM I TO DOReplyDelete
Reading XKCD is kind of like going to bad movie night. Making fun of it is like making fun of the movies at bad movie night.
and then you find the one comic/movie that will make you want to drink and drink and drink to forget it *cough*631*cough*ReplyDelete
captcha: ducktok I blacked out a second because I thought it looked like Ducktales >:D
But yeah there's always the risk it will be bad in a bad way, but mostly it's just bad in an amusing way. And communal! We're building a community.
Wow, he really changed the alt-text to Pauli comic. It was stupid before, and it is even more incomprehensible now. "drunkn"? Get a fucking spellchecker.ReplyDelete
I actually wonder what was his reason to change the alt text, whether it was fear of being "offensive", or if he thought the original text sucked. But then, if it was the latter case, he should have went ahead and replaced the whole comic.ReplyDelete
I like it when the cuddlefish go crazy like that. At least Owen gave himself a name, which deserves kudos. But then, how come an xkcd fan, who is SO enlightened and smart, think that a guy like Carl can possibly NOT be a pleasant person just because he reserves some minutes of his week to develop his criticism to a webcomic? ... I guess it's because xkcd fans just love every single move Randall does, so they can't imagine being turned off by anything. Dunno, just a hypothesis.
Captcha: Skeow. That's exactly what it sounds like when my cat plays ska.
I love how cuddlefish are always taking the moral high ground and graciously educating us about our deficient of character, and yet they won't even bother to post with their email.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 6:14 AM
you are all sad sad people. it's a WEBCOMIC! let it go.ReplyDelete
And this is a blog.ReplyDelete
Fuck off and stop intruding on our fun.
It's not just a webcomic, is it? It's a webcomic that YOU happen to like. And that's terrible to make of.ReplyDelete
- Anon #1November 8, 2009 at 7:57 AM
You guys are so retardedReplyDelete
do you not have anything better to do with your time?
Anon #1, use your inside voice.ReplyDelete
That's a good boy.
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Hey you know what ? I just learned about this site, and I just couldn't believe. Oh my god. I mean, do you have any friends, or family, apart from your fellow xkcd haters ? 'Cause you obviously don't have anything to do all day long except shitting upon a webcomic, describing bit per bit why YOU think it isn't fun. Well, guess what : persuading people you are absolutely incapable of getting the humor of almost each and every comic from Mr. Munroe, even the rare times when it is done with sensible arguments, in the end, make you nothing else but idiot. And I'm not afraid of making long sentences to express it.ReplyDelete
Have fun with that, give me a lil' touch of your condescending humor, which seem to find so much funny compared to xkcd's.
PS:Yes, I am aware that now that I've said that, you're not going to do condescending humor, just to look annoying. Or maybe you are, because I just said that. Oh, dammit, this non-ending !
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I don't understand where this "you don't have any" friends argument comes from; it's really silly but it's so ubiquitous on the internet.ReplyDelete
Also - is it really easier to type "'cause" than "because"? Because, just aesthetically, it's repulsive, and it only saves one keystroke.
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 9:30 AM
I like to mentally hear what I'm typing, and on the spot, I was hearing a "'cause" rahter than a "because".ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 9:30 AM
"And I'm not afraid of making long sentences to express it."ReplyDelete
Your grammar and spelling is not very good so maybe you should pay more attention to your teacher as this makes you a hypocrite*.
I know you're trying though so I'll give you an A for effort. Well done! :)
* Pronounced HIPPO-CRIT . A hippo is like a big purple cow.
Aaahahahahaa. I love you so much, your post made me laugh a lot.
"Hey you know what?" is never the way to begin.
"I just learned about this site". Wow, you are very behind.
"and I just couldn't believe." It helps when you finish sentences.
"...do you have any friend, or family, apart from your fellow xkcd haters ?" I actually have a mother and a dog, but I can't speak for everyone else. Also, we're not haters. Also, question marks don't come after a space.
"'Cause you obviously don't have anything to do all day long..." You think this takes up all of our time?
"describing bit by bit why YOU think it isn't fun." Mate, it's the internet. We have opinions here. We don't say that we're right. Well, Carl does but he's the boss so...
"...make you nothing else but idiot." Confucius say: "He is idiot."
"And I'm not afraid of making long sentences to express it" It'd be even better if your sentences were good ones. Didn't you ever get taught not to start sentences with "and"?
Also, look up "condescending".
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Write better than that in french, Dan, and then tell me one more time my grammar sucks.ReplyDelete
Condescending is a latin-derived adjective meaning "acting with a patronizing descent, often showing superiority". Now, tell me THAT doesn't fit the tone of your and Anon's comments. You can take off that primitively-capsed "UN" from your PS.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM
You're so adowable when you're angry :3ReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Teach yourslef. And get a life. Bye bye !
A french passer-by.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM
ACTUAL QUOTES FROM MANUTAUST AKA THE DUMBEST CUDDLEFISH:ReplyDelete
"BTW : how can you hate a person met on the internet for absolutely no reason ?
Ah, I love so much provoking idiot fanboys on the internet, even though it makes me an idiot too. The cool thing about it is it can last forever since you keep on calling Sony crap."
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Cool, you know Google. Have you heard of Facebook ?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Hey, did you know what? I think that this site is the most pathetic thing that ever was. Ongelooflijke why that why you would mash a webcomic when you would do not better yourself. I would be ashamed to have you in my village. You are tiny child! I think perhaps you people have no lives at all!ReplyDelete
It seems like we've got more cuddlefish then usual recently. Have they been linked here from somewhere?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Manutaust, you are a coward hiding behind a wall of anonymity.ReplyDelete
I should have suspected you were French...
Now give up. As your kind are wont to do.
"Cool, you know Google. Have you heard of Facebook?"ReplyDelete
Randall has.
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Anonymous, is that supposed to be some kind of joke, that you're the one using the word "anonymity" ?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 10:42 AM
There is no joke here but you.ReplyDelete
Hehe, "you must have no friends because you dislike something on the internet." That one's my favorite. It's got just the right level of moronic extrapolation without going into the tasteless category of "you should just kill yourself if you don't like XKCD."ReplyDelete
It's some pretty excellent extrapolation! "You dislike a comic and have a sarcastic sense of humor. THEREFORE, you have no friends!" The best part, the BEST part, is how you have to build in an exception for "apart from other xkcd sucks people" in order to make it even remotely fly. Still not that feasible though. And btw most of my friends are XKCD fans. It is nice because I get to feel superior to them.
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Apparently, it wasn't obvious that I was imitating Carl's brilliant humoristic style, which, as you summed up, looks like "you should just kill yourself if sou like xkcd, and I'll tell you why : because I don't".ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Quotation marks: learn to use them correctly.ReplyDelete
And yeah, it's not obvious because you really suck at imitating styles of humor. Probably because you don't understand them! Because you're barely literate. Please learn the language before attempting to speak it.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Rob you are a gay!ReplyDelete
11:50, I lol'dReplyDelete
I propose a Cuddlefish Corollary to Poe's Law.ReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Yeah, sure. You english speakers definitely know so much more than anyone else in languages.ReplyDelete
--"You english speakers definitely know so much more than anyone else in languages."ReplyDelete
Native English speakers are generally better at English, yeah.
Look, I'm a FAN of xkcd and I'm STILL annoyed by the cuddlefish. There are plenty of opportunities to criticize this site that don't involve making the arguments Carl's made it clear he doesn't care about.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Je suis français et je pense que Manutaust est de la français stupideReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Let's not digress over english speakers then. All right. Start on a new base, with actual arguments. Okay. First : why devote so much time and energy to criticize somebody else's work ? Carl's not even trying to point out anything trully bad about xkcd, he's just saying that he doesn't like its humor, meaning randall's. Right, so what ? And I'm not even speaking of how, in 90% of the times, Carl's just doing it with nothing else than insults, self-references ("Meme machine, just a meme machine" might he think), and unintersting photoshoppings of Randall's works. And it's pointless even when it has pseudo-arguments, because I think, in most cases, you just can't tell why something isn't funny. You just feel it, some others don't. Plus, sometimes, some hypocrite talks about how, from his divine humoristic heights, Carl almighty, in great goodness, deigned to recognize some humor in poor Mr. Munroe's comic. That is quite ridiculous, considering Munroe is obviously high above Carl. All this makes Carl a very annoying and hatable person.ReplyDelete
Was that better ?
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Anonymous : Almost credible, Google Translate apparently failed at "de la".ReplyDelete
No, you're still a stupid credulous hack.ReplyDelete
To answer your first question: nobody is spending a great deal of time or energy on this. Carl is probably the laziest among us all. The rest of your questions are based on similarly flawed assumptions so I'm really not going to waste my time on them. Esp. as you are a complete idiot.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Si tu pense que je ne parle pas la français, comment pense tu que j'ai des faux pas que Google ne pas pas faux? J'ai l'idiolecte idiot et tu as les idiosyncrasies idiotsReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
That doesn't mean anything. Unless "If you think I do not speak -the- french, how do you think I have missteps not that Google doesn't not wrong ? I have the idiolect idiot and you have the idiosyncrasies idiots" means anythingin english.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousBNovember 8, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Maybe it does and you just can't properly translate. (On the count of you being a French pansy who can't speak English.)ReplyDelete
Hating the cuddlefish is the first sign of conversion ;)ReplyDelete
Hey you know what?ReplyDelete
I like this site.
I'm an intermittent reader of xkcd because it lost its edge a bit and in my opinion no longer merits following it regularly. I found it on Tuesday because I was skimming through the recent comics, checked out the forum a bit and saw someone bashing it. Since it was a slow day, I decided at the very worst it was good for some cheap laughs.
Instead, I found salient points explaining what seem to me to be legitimate criticisms of Mr. Munroe's comic. These criticisms were perhaps not particularly well organized, but it's a blog and you have to accept some limitations of the medium. The disorganization isn't anything that basic reading comprehension and the willingness to actually read the comics couldn't solve, so I don't mind it.
Of course, my opinion of the critics here rose the next day, when Mr. Munroe posted the example of mediocrity that is the subject of this post. It's not an original thought, the pun makes me groan (and I usually like bad puns), and the execution left me cold. It came off like the comic was written by the person destined for the couch, and the alt-text seemed like him fantasizing.
Fortunately, I was able to find cheap laughs anyway, in the form of xkcd fans who come over here. It's seriously downright hilarious that they don't see that every criticism they make can at the very least be said about them, and more, as this site pretends to be nothing other than what it is. Of course, their points are weak anyway.
To illustrate this, I'll end on one of the "criticisms" leveled at this site...
All you Cuddlefish, you're all OUTSIDE THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC!!!1!1
(Of course, as this site has a much smaller target demographic, specifically those who have become disenfranchised with xkcd, it's actually true, unlike when they say it, as xkcd's target demographic is much larger and almost by definition includes anybody who would actually criticize it in detail).
I know: tl;dr. I never did get good at that "brevity" thing.
Stefan you are a true American hero and also I am hopped up on cough syrup and pain medication.ReplyDelete
As for cuddlefish: LOL I TROLL YOU
That last panel is how I envision every single cuddlefish on this site. I encourage all of you to do the same. Stefan - it will make your cheap laughs EVEN BETTER.
- TheMesosadeNovember 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Everyone bashing XKCD sucks:ReplyDelete
What I find most ironic of the basis of all arguments is that they all lead back to "Why don't you let it be?" We are, you're not.
People like Manutaust, anonymous haters, and others, the reason why none of your arguments work is because this site is not malicious. We don't flame and spam the XKCD topics. We don't send Randall letter-bombs. Hell, the most real thing this blog has done to Randall was write him a book. It was even in good taste!
So tell me, what's worse, a site that minds it's own business operating in it's own domain, or you, a person who comes to our site, makes badly constructed arguments, tells us to kill ourselves and leaves?
Long story short, we're not the haters. You on the other hand, are. So until you find a point that hasn't been repeated dozens of times, you can get the hell off this blog.
(P.S. I understand the nature of your criticism, it's just that you don't know what you're criticizing. It's not that you dislike the criticism, it's that you can't handle the thought that something that you like possibly sucks. Put simply, if this site were Dregorkraken sucks, you wouldn't give a hoot in hell.)
- ManutaustNovember 8, 2009 at 9:42 PM
That was easy. I never defended myself from criticizing this site, because as you said, I obviously do. But M. Munroe, since the appearance of this site, almost never alluded to xkcdsucks. He continued writing his comic (whether you like them or not), remained silent about what was going on her.ReplyDelete
On the other hand, you, I mean Carl here, kept on criticizing xkcd, and even attended the book launching party. If that doesn't look like stalking ... See, I don't think good words help in any way : Carl doesn't construct anything by just shitting upon xkcd. He just destroys things. And this is what makes this site irrelevant from its beginning.
And as for the PS, yes, I feel more concerned, because I like xkcd a lot, but I objectively reckon this site isn't full of good intentions and intelligence. If this was Dregorkakensucks, I probably wouldn't care a lot, although I'd for sure say to myself "Wow, that's annoying, the guy here just hitting another site." But I'm pretty sure there would also be concerned dregorkaken fans to come to this site so you can have your little private meme about them. I don't hate memes in general, but the cuddlefish is particularly untasty, and the way Carl always present himself as a meme machine (between other qualities) is also a significant part of why his statements are unsignificant to me.
You know what else looks like stalking by your definition? Here, let me make a list.ReplyDelete
-being a critic of anything. You even go to advance screenings just so you can write about whether you liked something or not!
-writing a fan site. Hunting down every bit of information you can find about someone, compiling bits of trivia about them--that's just a step away from a dossier!
-being a regular on an artist's forums. You have a whole community devoted to intelligence gathering about that artist!
-being a fan of an artist's work, whether or not you ever communicate with them. You are sitting there reading things that they produced, learning things about them--personal things! And they don't know about you, and they certainly don't care about your existence. The feeling is not mutual.
But people like throwing that word around casually, as if 'stalking' is something that you can just casually do. Its casual use regarding things like Facebook is probably at least partially to do with it. Somehow it's come into the heads of people that 'stalking' just means 'caring about/talking about something (especially if that something is a famous person.'
That is not stalking. Stalking is harassment. Stalking is sending threatening emails and creepy letters. Stalking is the sort of thing that makes a person in fear for their safety and the safety of their friends. Stalking is a criminal offense and jeopardizes the health of the victim, both psychological and, in some cases, physical.
We are writing snarky reviews of a webcomic, and someone who was in the area attended an event that was open to the public hosted by Randall Munroe.
If you honestly can't tell the difference, you should probably seek help. You are a danger to yourself and others.
man: I have decided you are a troll. Because you make too many dumb mistakes to actually mean what you claim: Mr. R. Munroe has not been silent about this site in the least, and I did not attend the book release party.ReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 9, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Then who's asked the question about cartoon vaginas ? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but at least someone from this site did.ReplyDelete
Again, this is why I dislike your ways and manners more and more : you just can't find anything more to say insults and irrevocable truths. This is enough to make somebody unlikeable. I don't like you. You probably don't care, and there's no discussion about it; so, that being said, I propose we end this argument here.
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Hey, you're right! Someone from this site went to the book release party. How you came to the conclusion that it was Carl in particular that went is quite beyond me, as it was made very clear in this blog who exactly went. Methinks someone isn't doing their research before attempting to make an argument?ReplyDelete
How you could learn that someone from this site went to the xkcd book party, but think that the person who did, aloria - a four foot tall tiny little gnome of a girl (no offense) - was me - a seven foot tall 98 year old man - I truly cannot fathom. Perhaps you could explain.ReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM
I just ran randomly into the article by browsing this site, and quickly read it. There was a paragraph that said "Then, I asked the question 'Are you going to show some respect to your female readers at last ?'" or something like that (to which Randall answered "I tried, but they kicked me out of their TGIF parties" ), and assuming you were the guru of the site (which I had sufficient clues to think was true), I quickly linked to you Carl.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Reading comprehension needs work. At the very beginning of the blog post: "Here it is! ==>Aloria's<== HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU HAVE MISSED THIS??? thrilling tale of being at the NYC party for the xkcd book. All your questions are answered....below!"ReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM
See, the discussion was almost decent until you spoke. Yes, I apparently missed it. It wasn't all big and flashy, and as I said, I quickly read through the article, stopping most notably at the Youtube videos.ReplyDelete
also, the end said "A thousands thanks to Aloria for doing all this." You can understand why it might be frustrating to argue about this with you, if you make your points after only a cursory glance at the post you are critiquing.ReplyDelete
Anonymous/Sam/Person 1: stop astroturfing for your crummy blog. The first time you posted about it, it was obvious that it was your own blog, but who cared? The tenth time? It allowed me to come out and say, without guilt: nothing on xkcdexplained was remotely well-written or funny. Go away.ReplyDelete
Fuck, are people abusing the word 'astroturf' now? THAT IS NOT WHAT ASTROTURFING IS.ReplyDelete
Manutard: You should really learn to read. Like, seriously. Errors that you make when speaking a foreign language are your fault. You can't just expect people to accommodate your stupidity. You can't just make stupid assumptions based on your complete inability to read basic words and phrases and then act like they were somehow completely reasonable. You fucked up.
I don't have a blog, nor am I an affiliate with any particular blog. Maybe your next guess will be better.ReplyDelete
- ManutaustNovember 9, 2009 at 10:27 PM
See, when one speaks like you Rob, there are two possibilities :ReplyDelete
- He belongs to the xkcdsucks beloved members, in which case he is just showing a sharp and distinguished sense of humor.
- He doesn't like xkcdsuckx, and thus he's just trolling dumbass cuddlefish.
Oh, and the english-speaking stuff is cool, in fact.
That isn't an actual response. Please to be trying again.ReplyDelete
rob, of explaining your ideas, to be saying "language" is to be of doing to say "i am not of the smart" thus it is not to be don't say.ReplyDelete
to be understood? is yes.
epic pwn ftw manutaustReplyDelete
you really showed that carl what an epic fail he was
that was win
From the previous post:ReplyDelete
[[PS here is something interesting - looks like xkcd is now overtly objectifying women for profit. I wasn't expecting that.]]
One of the charities you can donate to is Women For Women International which helps victims of wars. If that makes you feel any better...
it does, a little. But doesn't it still seem odd?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Hey, at least it's better than the Reverse Polish Sausage Joke.ReplyDelete
at least he didn't make "Reverse Polish Sausage" be a comic about backwards polish guys' dicks, hm?ReplyDelete


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Celebrating illustration, design, cartoon and comic art of the mid-20th century.
Tuesday, December 16, 2008
Bad News, Good News, Bad News, Good News!
Outside of the warranty, the repair to my Mac was going to cost almost as much as a new computer! Even worse, all my jobs, past and current from the last three years - plus all the the scanned images and written research I've done for Today's Inspiration - EVERYTHING! - was locked up on my dead machine. After a day of much weeping and gnashing of teeth I was little more than a pathetic ball of nerves, curled up in the fetal position on the kitchen floor. That's how my darling wife found me when she got home from work.
There are many reasons why I married this girl, but here's one of the main ones: without a moment's hesitation, she took the bull by the horns, said, "go get your computer. I'm going to get it fixed and I'm getting it fixed for free." - and in a flash she was off to our local Apple reseller/repair shop to kick some ass and take names. I love it when she does that!
The Good News: after an hour at the shop and another hour on the phone, she managed to get Apple to agree to completely cover the cost of the repair, despite the computer being two months past the warranty!
The Bad News: All of this year's remaining 'Countdown to Christmas' material is now sitting in the shop on that ailing machine, and I don't have the time or energy to rescan everything, or re-research all the accompanying text. That means this year's Countdown has come to an unscheduled, abbreviated conclusion a week ahead of time. Sorry gang.
The Good News: After a hiatus for the rest of this year, Today's Inspiration will resume on January 5th, 2009. I already have several weeks of new material planned, and no doubt the new year will bring all sorts of interesting surprises.
So as much as I hate to say it, this is good bye... for now. Here's hoping everyone has a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year and a wonderful holiday break! Many thanks to everyone who has shared their art, information, comments, suggestions and words of encouragement - and to all of you who have simply dropped by to look and read. You all make the effort of putting this blog together a huge pleasure.
See you next year!
* And meanwhile, be sure to drop by Charlie Allen's Blog for the Christmas installment of the CAWS.
41 comments:
My logic board did a similar death. Started with the mouse not working, then keyboard then screen then fan. Wheee! You deserve a break, we all love what you are doing and eagerly await the return.ReplyDelete
Hi. I just wanted to let you know I really appreciate all the work you put into this blog. I am a graphic designer and information designer and I just love what you've been doing. I send people to read your stuff all the time. I hope you're able to mediate your memory losses and be back online soon, and I hope your holidays are wonderful. Keep up the good work.ReplyDelete
i look forward to your post every day, but i hope you have a great holiday off.ReplyDelete
please please please tell santa to buy you an external hard drive and back that gold up with time machine !!!
Wow - is there any chance you could loan your wife to one of your kind readers, should anything happen to my precious three-year-old Power Mac? She is an unstoppable force!ReplyDelete
See you in '09 and thanks for all the glorious posts.
Oh, Leif! You just described my worst nightmare. :(ReplyDelete
All the best to you (and your wonderful wife!) and see you in the New Year!
- Anonymous2:27 PM
This is EXACTLY why I have TWO back up hard drives. I keep one in my studio and one at a friend's house. I switch them out once a month. This way if my computer crashes or the (God forbid) house burns down I still have almost everything in a safe location.
On another note, THANK YOU so much for another incredible year of classic illustration! This is one of my favorite stops on all the internet!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours!
- Anonymous2:39 PM
Hi Leif,ReplyDelete
Yikes! I'm getting very nervous about my 2002 Mac G4 Quicksilver tower! I obsessively back everything up on extra hard drives, DVDs, etc. so it wouldn't be that bad anyway, I guess.
I'm glad it sounds like things worked out okay for you. You deserve a break!
Thanks for all your work over the last year. It is appreciated. "Today's Inspiration" remains the only online posting I subscribe to.
Merry Christmas and all the best in 2009!
Huw Evans
EYECATCHER Graphics
Lovely thing about Apple, they helped me out the same way when my iPod died and was out of warranty by a month. Still replaced it none-the-less.ReplyDelete
I'll be in withdrawal without "Inspiration" till the new year!
Whew, glad that worked out in the end! Thanks for all of your hard work, looking forward to the new year!ReplyDelete
I know I'll come here many times on the next weeks, even though the site is on hiatus - It'll be a good chance to dig into the archives of TI! Thanks for running this great website Leif!ReplyDelete
- Anonymous6:00 PM
Hi Leif, I've never posted here before but I follow the blog pretty regularly and this seems as good a time as ever to thank you for all the amazing work you've put into it over the last few years! I'm an illustrator myself with a love of mid century styles and this site has been an absolute treasure trove of daily ... uh ... inspiration:) Enjoy your well deserved holiday break and I look forward to seeing what goes up in the new year!ReplyDelete
- Anonymous8:04 PM
Sorry to hear the bad news. Thanks for your many diligent hours of hard work putting this great blog together for us all to enjoy.ReplyDelete
The truth is, the reason men marry has little to do with our young man's lust fueled fantasies: We marry for to save ourselves from the certain disaster of the manly life. For all of the attendant grief--and what's any relationship without grief!--wives, at the bottom of it all, make our lives better. For better and worse: That's life!
Happy Holidays!
Hi Leif -- I love your blog and visit it daily. I look forward to the new year and being able to read your wonderful posts again.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous9:17 PM
Having suffered two data-loss scares in the past, I know how it feels! Do yourself a favour, and start backing up in the new year.ReplyDelete
Your Mac is probably too old for OS X Leopard with Time Machine for backups, but Time Machine is a godsend. I went from never backing anything up to worrying when Time Machine misses even one hourly backup.
Good luck with your data, and I'll see you in 2009!
Sorry to hear about your computer trouble, and I await your return to blogging.ReplyDelete
I gotta know what your wife said to get the thing repaired for free, though!
- Anonymous11:25 PM
Well, this is horrible, but it's great that your wife is such a force. I guess Apple really doesn't want customers going away mad after such a bad event.ReplyDelete
Your ordeal has scared me. I haven't backed my mac up for months. I'm going to get right on it!
I will be looking eagerly towards the new year. Thank you for all of the hard work and passion that you've put into this project so far. The word "blog" doesn't seem good enough.
- Anonymous1:26 AM
My G4 iMac (the one with a round base and swivel head) has been running for 6 years now and never had to take it to get it repair [knocks on wood].ReplyDelete
Sorry to hear what happened. Thank you for all the reference material and inspiration to make me happy we get to draw, paint, wacom, scan, draft, scribble, sketch, spray, and doodle for a living!
- Anonymous2:11 AM
Hi - I'm one of those anonymous readers that shows up every day but never comments. It seems like the perfect time to let you know that I also really appreciate all the work you put into your blog, pretty much every day starts with a visit to it. Have a great holiday (and a well deserved break). See you in the New Year.ReplyDelete
And I agree with some of the others - ask Santa for a Time Capsule, and go for the 1TB model.
This place is an invaluable resource for me. I'm thankful for your tireless efforts and very glad they'll be able to recover your files for the new year. This is exactly why I have a tenacious, ass-kicker wife of my own! :)ReplyDelete
To the tough wives!
Happy holidays to you and yours!
Naughty boy! Backup,backup and then backup again!Pull out the hard drive, get an external enclosure and plug into another Mac and you'll be up and running. My G4 went down after 10 years of use (costs work out at .5 euro per day so a pretty good bargain from Apple I think) so found a G5 on French ebay for 250 euros that will stand in in until Santa brings me a new shiny Mac. Great blog as it reminds me of working for various ad agencies in London from the end of the sixties. Anyway, Happy Christmas from sunny southwest France to you and yours.ReplyDelete
Wow, I'm overwhelmed by all your best wishes - thank you everyone! :-) And not to worry - there's a shiny new external HD sitting on the shelf here , waiting for my G5 to come home from the hospital. I think I will take Joe's advice, get a second one, and keep switching them out at a second location.ReplyDelete
Not sure if my iMac is able to support Time Machine... its the last gen before the pentium chips so maybe not... but I'll ask my IT guys (also known as my two teenage sons!)
Sorry about your computer problems. Your blog gets better each year. I enjoy seeing the work you post and I learn something about artists that are hard to find info on. Thank youReplyDelete
and have a well deserved holiday.
Sorry about your computer problems. Your blog gets better each year. I enjoy seeing the work you post and I learn something about artists that are hard to find info on. Thank youReplyDelete
and have a well deserved holiday.exessesi
Hi Leif, Another backup option—for a few dollars a month—is cloud storage. A couple examples are mozy and iDrive. All backing up is done during off hours and provides the security of a completely separate, secure location for crucial data.ReplyDelete
Enjoy your time off!
That you are apologizing further illustrates your year-long good will and generosity.ReplyDelete
Since I have logged on with you, I have saved your scans, and should you need any back-up, just say the word.
I know that you have made the lives and eyes of me and my students that much richer-
Happy Holidays and good luck!
So sorry to hear this Leif, but I'm glad it wasn't worse. Having recently gotten some experience in managining a dinky blog by comparison, I would venture that this mishap may be a blessing in disguise. You really deserve a break from all your hard (but obviously well appreciated work).ReplyDelete
Happy holidays and I look forward to seeing TI in 2009.
Just wanting to tell you how much I'm enjoying your blog - what a pleasure! Thousand thanks to you!ReplyDelete
Wishing you the very best and looking forward to your come-back in 2009 !!!!!
mille gracie, Karl
That's really bad / good news! with a happy ending of course of which I'm glad for you and for this fantastic blog you share with us!ReplyDelete
I had the same happen to my mac about 2 or 3 years ago now. It's really frustrating. An external hard drive would certainly ease the pain, since at least you put your concerns about the contents aside.
Anyway, all the Best for this Christmas Season and a Happy 2009!
Bless your wife, the ideal illustrator's partner! If she can get Apple and get you uncurled from the fetal position she walks on water!ReplyDelete
As observed, you deserve a break, and maybe the machine was forcing the issue! We are all in your debt for what you contribute back to us through your blog, Leif. The imagery, the writing, the links to many voices long thought gone ( and the ones who are now gone) , the creation of community, we should all pitch in and BUY you a new machine.
But Last, Sing this song to Santa Claus is coming to town:
Oh, you'd better back up
You'd better back up
You'd better back up
I'm telling you why
Even Apples finally die!
Merry Christmas to you too! And loads and loads of love for all the inspiration given this year!ReplyDelete
- Anonymous9:32 PM
I'm sorry to hear you lost last your scannned images. I agree, 2 hard drives would be ideal.ReplyDelete
And they're getting cheaper by the month. I just bought a 1.5 terrabite for $199.
Anyway, I'm greteful your blog exisits. It's inspiring to see so much 'solid' work (and yet a bit frustating when I'm reminded they don't teach this kind of stuff at art schools anymore)
Happy holidays, best of everything.
Wow...tough break! My G5, also purchased 3 years ago, has been having erratic fan noise issues after it's been on for a while. Fortunately I reported the issue on the very last day of my AppleCare agreement. Not my usual luck, to say the least, but I'll take it! Anyway, they replaced the logic board and one of the processors. I got it home and the drive bay was still overheating, causing the fans to pick up again. It still works, though, so since I'm in the middle of a big project I'm going to take it in when I'm done. They're going to replace the entire housing this time, I'm told because some of the wiring related to the problem is part of the housing assembly. By the time they're done I'll practically have a new machine.ReplyDelete
I really enjoy your blog, thanks for all the work you put into it. Good luck getting back on your feet!
Steve D'Amico
Hey Bruno, They do teach that stuff at my art school! The Academy of Art in SFReplyDelete
Hi Leif,ReplyDelete
Sorry to hear about all of your computer troubles. I had some problems with my iMac over this past summer that resulted in them giving me a brand new 20" one in exchange, only to be found to have an inferior screen to my previous one and not at all acceptable to my needs as an illustrator. Anyway, I was able to pay a small bit more to upgrade to a nice 24" screen which seems to be working very well.
I think this may be the first time I've actually posted on your blog, but I want you to know how much I enjoy your very informative articles along with the accompanying artwork. I check in here at least a couple times a week and really appreciate all of your tremendous effort in creating such a valuable resource. Merry Christmas to you, Leif, and I look forward to what you've got lined up for us in the New Year!
- Anonymous5:58 AM
Just the first time i post a comment here, i am coming very often to see all these incredible pictures, and it seems to be the ggod moment to say : thank you for this blog.
- Anonymous8:33 AM
Never has a blog been more aptly named, not just for the beautiful illustration that you post and your obvious passion for the subject, but for your tireless dedication to blogging. Sorry to hear of your troubles but relieved to know that you'll be back in the new year.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous2:45 PM
Sometimes one just has to let go...ReplyDelete
I've also become an addict of Today's Inspiration, but...
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose"...
these words from time to time keep on ringin in my ears.
Looking forward to the continuation,
Thanks and God bless
Hope all is well now - Merry Christmas and thanks for a wonderful blog! :DReplyDelete
Merry X Mas Mr. Leif--ReplyDelete
When my logic board froze (this was on a G4 tower which I had for 5 years and finally killed due to the huge files I was working in photoshop), I had the same problem-- I found a place here in NYC which could retrieve the old info, thank god...
I back everything up on an external now and my assistant has a copy of that at a different location...just incase!
Your wife sounds like a great partner, cheers! See you in 2009.
Looking to buy cheap phones, including apple iphone 11 pro or Samsung? Techinn have quality without contract with genuine manufacturer's parts.ReplyDelete


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Firebrand Books, 1995 - Biography & Autobiography - 189 pages
Minnie Bruce Pratt expands the boundaries of gender and its theory in these sophisticated lyrical vignettes sited at the crossroads of feminist analysis, queer theory and transgender liberation.
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PALACE At almost sunset in the formal garden we walk on plush green grass
between borders of perennials — golden everlasting, pink hollyhocks, the masks
of ... I wish to be known for what I am, and to dwell with you in the palace of truth.
PALACE At almost sunset in the formal garden we walk on plush green grass
between borders of perennials — golden everlasting, pink hollyhocks, the masks
of ... I wish to be known for what I am, and to dwell with you in the palace of truth.
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Amazing. Loved every aspect of this book. She shows how her thoughts and process have developed and changed over the years with both conversaitons, debates, and encounters with the people she has met ... Read full review
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An amazing book of vignettes that explore the ideas and intersections of love, sexuality, gender, and identity. A beautiful love letter to her partner, Leslie Feinberg. Read full review
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