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I am trying to figure out how to "shrink" down a regular Blu-Ray movie, so that I can burn it to a single layer 25gb BD-R disc for playback. Is this possible? If so, I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to do so.
Me and my wife have invested a lot of money in buying Blu-Ray movies, so I really want to have a backup copy of each, so our kids won't destroy our investment. I do understand that I can back them up on my hard drive and play from there, but I would much rather have a disc copy to store away in case the original gets damaged or scratched up.
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Sure, use BDRB (BD_Rebuilder).
First you have to decrypt/rip the disc to your hard drive. At the moment, AnyDVDHD is pretty much the only option, and it's not free. But the 21-day trial *IS* free, and not crippled in any way, apart from not keeping settings and the nag screens. So you can try before you buy.
Here's a nice simple guide:
Although it's specifically aimed at re-encoding to fit a BD-5 (or rather AVCHD on DVD-5), just change the option in BDRB to BD-25 and leave off patching the index.
Make certain you install the *recommended* versions of: Avisynth, ffdshow, and Haali Splitter.
Good luck and post back how you're doing. And welcome to the forum.
Last edited by fritzi93; 29th Jan 2011 at 08:18.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Originally Posted by brad2157
Thanks for the quick replies to my question.
I have already tried the .PDF instructions and tried two different ways, in each I ended up with a file that I could not use. If I first made a .ISO image using AnyDvdHD "Rip to Image", then the image of my original Blu-Ray disc was too large to fit onto a single layer BD-R 25GB disc. If I tried to use BD-Rebuilder first to "shrink" down the orginal disc, then I was left with a .MT2S file that was the correct size to fit onto a disc, but then I have no way to convert it into a .ISO image that I can burn using Imgburn, nero, etc.. programs. This is where I am currently stuck at.
Maybe there are some steps I need clarified. Any suggestions? Thanks so much in advance!
You need to clarify: Do you have a BDMV folder and a STREAMS subfolder, and the m2ts within the latter? If so, did you follow the burning directions exactly? You don't need to create an ISO image first, although you can. Use ImgBurn only and burn as UDF 2.50.
If you don't have the correct structure and followed the directions, then perhaps you should try an earlier version of BDRB. Version 0.26.03 works for me. The software is beta and, as is normal in such cases, some versions fix old bugs and introduce new ones.
I'm re-testing the latest version right now (v 0.27.01), my first run with it had a great deal of picture breakup. Dunno if it's the updated version of x264 or if the problem is in BDRB.
[EDIT] You can also try tsmuxer. First open the AnyDVD rip and go to the BDMV, then STREAMS. Check the size of the largest file, which is almost certainly the main movie, if it's smaller than 25G, it may fit as movie only. Verify which m2ts is the main movie by playing it in MPCHC. Write down the number. Say it's 00001.m2ts. In tsmuxer, open file and navigate to the PLAYLIST folder and select the 00001.mpls file. This will load all necessary files for the main movie, chapters, subs, audio tracks, etc. Deselect all but one audio track and one subtitle track (PGS: presentation graphics stream). Set audio and video to copy, set output to Blu-Ray. It may well be that the main movie only will now fit on a BD25. Good luck.Pull! Bang! Darn!
My procedure is:
use anydvd and "rip video dvd to harddisk".
use bd rebuilder to shrink down to bd25.
use imgburn to burn to bd25 media.
FRITZI93:I do have the BDMV and STREAMS folders with the .MT2S file within the STREAMS folder. I tried to follow the instructions step by step. I was under the impression that I needed to create a .ISO image file to burn to Blu-Ray though. I kind of get lost after I backup the image with AnyDvdHD to my PC and then rebuild with BD-Rebuilder. I am left with a correct size .MT2S file, but I was under the impression that I needed to convert it to a .ISO before trying to burn with IMGBURN software.
MRSWLA: After you use BD-Rebuilder to shrink down the files to under 25GB, what type of file do you burn using IMGBURN? I am a bit confused about what file type(s) to burn using Imgburn, since most programs only burn image files such as .ISO's.
After BD Rebuilder is done shrinking, it creates a folder that is the name of the movie. This is what I burn with imgburn. When you open imgburn select "Write files/folders to disc", and select the folder the the movie that was just shrinked with bd rebuilder.
Yeah, go over your procedures carefully and try again. Read the guide one more time.
Anyway, I did two runs with the latest BDRB and there's definitely a problem with the encoding. (That is, assuming it isn't some obscure problem with my computer.) I ran the same job again with the earlier version of BDRB and it came out okay. Anyone else had any problem with v 0.27.01 ?
[EDIT] I think I'll drop the latest x264 into the BDRB folder and have another go. There have been several new versions of it in the last couple weeks. It wouldn't be surprising if there are bugs.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Originally Posted by brad2157
1) Open ImgBurn and select "Write Files/Folders to Disc".
2) Drag and drop the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders to the ImgBurn joblist pane.
2) Select Device and set to UDF 2.50. Go to label and enter a name.
4) Burn it.
Which isn't to say that's the *only* way to do it.Pull! Bang! Darn!
bdrb ver 27.01 seems fine to me.
[09:06:08] BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
- Source: ECHELON_CONSPIRACY
- Input BD size: 23.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:45:17.310]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[09:06:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:06:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:12:38] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
[10:20:24]PHASE ONE complete
[10:20:24]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:20:24] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:20:36] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[10:20:51]JOB: ECHELON_CONSPIRACY finished.
Originally Posted by mrswla
Okay, it's working for you then? Since BoB is an episode disc, I've been doing full disc. Perhaps that's it? From the bug report thread at Doom9, I gather there have been intermittent problems with full disc backup. I'll try another, this time movie only. Thanks.
[EDIT] From your log it does appear that the input was re-encoded, however slightly.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Well, *another* version of x264 has just appeared. I'll drop it in the Tools folder and try it.Pull! Bang! Darn!
I try to always do full backup first. If it fails, then I try main movie only.
I have had trouble with episodic discs. I've tried CSI in the past with no luck. Band of Brothers may be the same.
Yeah, it seems so. I just finished encoding disc 2 with BDRB v0.26.03. Full disc, everything's fine except chapter timings on the second episode of the disc. Same with disc 1 of Band of Brothers. Isn't that odd now?
I'm starting another re-encode shortly, movie only, with v0.27.01. Hope it works this time, as the newest version is a helluva lot faster than the previous one. Re-encoding to BD-5 takes a long time. :P
So brad2157, any success yet?Pull! Bang! Darn!
I have 2 questions, when I am backing up movies to BD-R 25 do I not need to use the AVCHD-patcher???? secondly, I have noticed that some movies has more folders besides just BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Do I burn all those in imgburn or should I only burn BDMV and CERTIFICATE folder??
thanks in advance.
I always back up to bd-25 discs, and have yet to use avchd patcher. I have done over 85 discs now. When using bdrb, I have it outputed to the name of the movie with all material (bdmv, certificate, etc.) as subdirectories. Then I open imgburn and use the "write files/folders to disc" and select the movie name folder and burn.
i have the same problem as above....i have some extra folders and i tried burning them ,but my blu ray player didnt support it. ani help appreciated
I wouldn't use DVDFab to re-encode. You'll get the best possible quality using the X264 encoder. If you don't like BDRB, there are other programs that use X264, in fact all the decent freeware Blu-Ray to Blu-Ray programs use it. And no payware programs available offer any advantage that I know of.
As to re-encoding to BD25, no, you won't be able to see any difference. AVC (h.264) is much more efficient than MPEG2. A reduction in file size to 75% (of original size) is quite a hit for a DVD-Video re-encode. Not so for Blu-ray. I don't think you can possibly tell the difference with your unaided eye on any conceivable home setup between BD50 and BD25.
The real disagreements involve BD 5/9. Many people assert their BD5 encodes are indistinguishable from original. Personally, I don't think they're looking very hard, although a re-encode above 4,500 kbps bitrate can be acceptable, depending on the movie.Pull! Bang! Darn!
So are these the steps:
1. Rip to hard drive in .iso image
2. Re-encode and burn to Blu-ray 25G disc using x264 app
No, you need to read the guide linked to in post #2.
1) Rip to hard drive with AnyDVDHD, DVDFab (or the free version), or DVDFabPasskey.
2) Re-encode with one of the Blu-Ray to Blu-Ray tools available in the tools section, e.g. BDRB, RipBot, AVCHDCoder, etc. Whichever one you use, you need to be careful in setting up the "helper" apps, AviSynth, ffdshow, Haali. (X264 needs no configuration and is included in each program.) The author of BDRB links the correct versions on the first page of the bug report thread:
3) Burn with ImgBurn *only*.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Very easy, just use DVDFab 22.214.171.124 and choose the 25GB option on the left near the bottom of the main screen, works great!
I've tried it, it works great. No noticable difference from the original...
You don't have to jump through all the hoops everyone on this thread has recommended....
You can use DVDFab to rip it and still use BD-Rebuilder if you want to tweak it. Just rip it as a BD-50 (no compression) then use BDRebuilder to shrink it. Then burn with IMGBurn. That's what I do and get great results.
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Every child is obviously different but I think when they tell you they are going pee or poop, it's time to try. At that point, they are aware of what is happening and may be able to translate it into going to the bathroom. Consistency is key. I never let my son wear pull ups because it seemed that it was a crutch to go in his pants if he felt like it, so I always just bought underwear. If they don't like the feeling of going in their underwear, chances are they will go on the toilet. Never force it, they will successfully be trained when they are ready. Although my son was close to 4 when he was trained he never had an accident. My daughter is close to two, so we will see happens with her. She is much more vocal than my son was. Good luck everyone!
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How can you tell when it's time to start potty training?
Whether it's a prescribed age you think is right, or whether there are signals your child can give you to let you know it's time, how do you know when to begin the process of potty training?
I need some ideas so my two year old almost 3 to start to potty train
Each child is different. I believe girls are easier then boys based on my experience. My boys were about 3 1/2 when we started potty training and my daughter started when she was 2 1/2.
With my boys I just put them in underwear (of course talked to them about it first) and stayed in the house for a week, did not go ANYWHERE and made them go every half hour. After a few days, I incresed the time to 45 minutes and so on. With my daughter, I just talked to her about it and she wore a pull-up for a couple months, for the most part she stayed dry. I would just ask "do you have to potty" alot. Funny thing is, she pooped before she even went pee on the potty. Now she is doing both on the potty and wearing underwear all day and even SLEEPING in underwear too!
Hope this helps.
i humbly believe that when their ready...... you'll know
My oldest was 18 months when he deceided one morning he was done with his pull ups, and asked for big boy undies, he put them on and never did wear another pull up, and he never had an accident even at night... All i did was at 15 months i let him sit on the potty when i was in there and when he asked to go i let him go. I always gave him his freedom in the bathroom. I have a 2 year old though that will not go doesn't even wanna try just flushes the toilet. I let big brother take him to the bathroom with him and he comes with me. Im hoping it soon clicks!
My daughter was easy, she told us when she wanted to go, she'd just turned 2 1/2 and we put her in pants and never looked back. My son has just turned three...he showed all the signs of being ready so we put him in pants and in three days only managed one wee on the potty. I asked him what's happened and he replied..."my pants have got a hole in and my wee keeps coming out." I decided to wait a few more months.
My 21 month old son told me he was ready today when he took his pull-up off and sat on his potty. After a little time he walked over to me and bent over for me to wipe his "booty" and said "I do it!" If that wasn't a clear sign idk what is lol.
I believe they are ready when they start to take their diaper off. My baby girl is. almost 17 months old and she is already trying to potty train.
I tried my son from about 2, I tried forcing it but no luck, then a couple of weeks ago, we were home sick, I put some training pants on him, and he is great! We have only had a few accidents. I think the key was letting him tell ME when HE was ready. He is 2 and a half now :)
Indicating she knows when she's going/when wet, staying dry for longer amounts of time (i.e., only 4 or 5 wets per day instead of 10), showing an interest in the toilet. We started when my daughter was 11 months old. She liked to walk into the bathroom with us and watch, let us know when she was wet, and she was letting us know before she went (like when we went to change her diaper, if she had to go to the bathroom she'd try to stop us from taking her diaper off - every time we persisted and took it off we got peed on!).
I am a first time mom but I think that , once she starts getting interested in the toilet and wanting to know whats happening and getting excited when i flush the toilet. I think that is the write time
I don't believe any of you! My son (who would be not allowed to go to preschool this year, because he's not potty trained, if it wasn't for the fact he needs speech thearpy) has NO interest in potty training.
I am busy with my forth and are slowly introducing the "potty"... He has just turned 2 and according to my mom (has 8 children) and my sister (has 6) it's the best time - around 2, however boys are a little slower than girls!
There is a "general" information out there of when your child is ready and what to do - which is handy for those "general" children. I did everything that was suggested and those things that I didn't want to do like bribing with chocolate/stickers/anything when Miss showed all the signs of being ready. Had step seat, brought a potty with her etc it still didn't work. NO INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO POTTY TRAIN A PERFECTIONIST!! One thing Miss couldn't practise in bed was going to the toilet - this is where she practised her rolling & walking! I gave up, she knew where the toilet was thou she didn't feel safe on the step seat, moved the potty closer (in the lounge room yuk) to where she was, read books in toilet, became cheerleaders outside the toilet! ALL her friends were potty trained, thou she was always the last in our group for everything lol The Little cow would use the potty at other people's house or when someone else was babysitting her. To deal with a perfectionist or if you like a very independent child, I had everything set up and just let her choose when she was ready. Every week I might ask, ASK (is the trick) if SHE would like to wear undies for the day/morning or to just try the potty. WELL someone brought her undies for her birthday and she also got a doll that would pee, not sure if it was just timing yet Miss 3 started to wear her new undies (the others weren't suitable apparently, yet someone else brought those to. She might have just been too young at the time to click). Within two weeks we had succeeded (with many runs to the toilet in shopping centers for nothing lol) she even stopped wearing nappies at nap time during the day with no accidents for two months, by three months she asked not to wear nappies to bed overnight - we had success.
It does take two full weeks to be toilet train and it can be stress free if you let them do it their way. Unfortunately you have to find out what is their way lol we found a step that was a little bit higher and no step seat just normal seat, she had to feel she could climb up to the seat herself and feel safe. There is no way you can force a perfectionist to do anything that they know won't work, they more I pressured the more stressed she got. If you don't succeed this week wait another and try.
I need some help with my 2 and half year old little girl. she is quite happy to wear pants and wee on toilet but will not poo on it. she cries until i put her a nappy on and poos in that
when the childs starts to take her pampers off.
I think an important factor is getting them interested. Take them in with you when you have to go, let them flush the flush, that way they make friends with the potty. Also CONSISTENCY!! My son is 18 months old and he is pretty much fully potty trained. He tells us when he has to go, even when we are out shopping or at a friends house. He used to go to a sitter and she refused to take him to the potty as she thought he was too young. he regressed a bit, but since being back home with me and his daddy he hardly ever misses.
Let them lead you. For my daughter it was a pair of underwear she liked that did the trick, I told her she couldn't wear them until she started going on the potty, which before this she rarely did. And she started to do that. For my son, one day at 2 1/2 he decided he was done with diapers and never went back, night and day. He rarely has an accident. Now with my almost 2 1/2 year old, we'll see, he tried to use the potty for poo today and missed, he got off to go. : ) We'll just see what happens. I agree with the no pull ups, my daughter would use that as a crutch too. But every kid is different.
My son was starting to show interest at 18 months, i didnt force the issue, but whenever he wanted to sit on the potty id let him. He went threw periods where he wasnt too interested, but he was fully potty trained just after he turned 2. I think every child is different, use your mommy insticts ;)
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Listen to your kids!
My son was almost fully potty trained at 2 1/2, then suddenly stopped using the toilet. He could sit there all day and not go, then as soon as I put a diaper on him he litterally peed through it. That's when I gave up. Then one night (he was about 3y/2m) at 4 am he woke crying for me, when I went to him he said "I need underwear" and wouldn't go back to sleep until I put them on him. We continued struggling with pooping on the toilet for a while, but he rarely had any pee accidents after that.
My daughter on the other hand is almost 19 months. About a month ago she told me she had poop so I went to change her. She didn't have poop so I asked her if she wanted to go potty, she said yes and went pee in the toilet. She's never done anything again until today. She's peed on the toilet 4 times today (2 of those times she told me she had to go) and stayed dry between times.
Just another way that all kids (even siblings) can be SO different from one another!
Im glad to know that my son isnt the only one. He started out wanting to sit on it, he has went a couple time but now wont go at all! He used to sit and even want to wipe but he wont anymore. Idk what changed I dont force him, I do ask but anymore he wont even sit on it. I did notice that when I tried celebrating with him he got embarrassed.... Any ideas would be helpful!!!!! He is only 2 1/2 but I think he can do it. =)
I started with potty training just after my daughter turned 2.. it was during summer time so I let her walk bare bottom and when she did have a wee she could actually feel that it was "nasty" so when she did it she would tell me that it was not nice. then i took the potty outside along with our morning missions and told her if she wants to go then she must sit on the potty or tell me. had 1 or 2 incident and then she was on the potty. Took me a week to get her completely of nappies and she never had an accident in bed. She has her lil toilet seat and the potty we keep in her bedroom for the night wees.
you will be able to pick up on it, my children seem to show me just by either grabbing there diaper or pull up and moving it around. so i put them on the potty and they go. be consistant while doing it. they get used to it and then they will not want to potty. remember every child is different. while some ppl pefer to make the child sit on the potty, others let them go bottomless and then once the child has had a accident they tell them to use the potty. hope this was a little bit helpful.
My child is 1y/10m, I started training him not so long ago (2months ago) ,he can pee for himself and put his pants back but he is still struggling with pooping he doesn't know when is the time and he will say to me ... " mom I need to go to the loo"
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Under the Strong Club approach and in practically all the so-called artificial systems, the large opening interval is divided into two segments.
All bidding systems I know of can be classified as either one-segment or two-segment. The infamous Fantunes system, for example, is a natural two-segment system, a rare beast since all other two-segment systems are usually dubbed artificial.
A parenthesis: The scientific approach is an approach in its own right but not with the same meaning of the word approach I am using here. Scientific methods (asking bids, relays, spiral scans and what have you) can be injected into any system, be it one-segment or two-segment; or three-segment for that matter. That does not change the basic approach followed by the system. Close parenthesis.
Strong club systems are usually deemed superior to natural, one-segment systems. The superiority is attributed to the use of science over the 1C opening. I believe the gain is also due, in large part, to the division into two smaller segments since this reduces the ambiguity about opener's strength and/or shape. In that vein, it makes sense to divide the large opening interval into three, hoping to obtain an even better definition of opener's hand and further improvement over the existing systems.
In the three-segment approach, the large interval is divided into three segments (or regions or intervals or ranges or whatever you wish to call them): Minimum opening hands (10 to 14 HCP), intermediate hands (15 to 17 HCP) and maximum opening hands (18 to 21 HCP).
A working definition: In a true three-segment system, opening bids used for minimum opening hands cannot, should not, be used for intermediate hands. They can, however, be used for maximum hands since the rebid will easily disambiguate. Similarly, opening bids used for intermediate hands cannot, should not, be used for either minimum hands or maximum hands. In that sense, natural systems (Standard, Two-over-one GF, Acol, etc) cannot be considered to be three-segment systems even though the three intervals are implicitly omnipresent. Refer to the very first paragraph.
It seems to me that one can build several different systems that adhere to the three-segment approach. I read (past tense) the description of every bidding system available on the internet, from mosquitoes to dinosaurs. I am baffled that I could not find a single three-segment system. Does anyone know of a three-segment system (past or present)? For the curious, I invented one which you can find here: http://mb-bridge-bidding-system.blogspot.ca/ . And I like it a lot! (Don't we all say that about our own invention?...)
This OP, however, is not about my baby or any other system; it is about the approach. I am asking the BW community for your opinion(s) about the merits of the approach from a theoretical standpoint, regardless of any specific system on can implement. Please don't say that the resultant system is not "GCC-compliant"; that is so uninteresting. I believe there is merit behind the idea. Do you? Your feedback will be much appreciated.
How does this violate our Community Guidelines?
Benefits include:
Plus... it's free!


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Congratz Tom!! ;D Instulent (talk) 11:51, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
It's just something that helps me to organize pages in categories. Sorry bro, I'm a bit busy now. I'll explain more about it later. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 13:05, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tom, I noticed something:
Your user page states you're from Brazil, but the staff page says you're are Belgian.
So, which one is true? -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 15:52, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, OK :) So, which one do you want to put on the staff page? Maybe I can also put them both on the staff page. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:13, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Boy, this is getting complicated... -_- I think I'll keep this that way until I'll decide how to put everything in. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:25, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Image policy
Oh sorry about the images, i did not see the note and uploaded more images. i will look over the policy now.
Dmz2002 (talk) 19:14, August 8, 2013 (UTC)Dmz2002
Apartment complex
Hey, about that apartment complex page, there is this one person who wants to delete it. He says it is not important in the game, should not be considered a complex, and says it isnt a housic project. what do think? should it be deleted, or left alone? get back to me plz.
Dmz2002 (talk) 21:55, August 8, 2013 (UTC)Dmz2002
page name
the name of the page is Mowhawk Avenue Apartment complex.Dmz2002 (talk) 22:23, August 8, 2013 (UTC)Dmz2002
GTA Wiki (Notícias)
Ola Tomás.
Podes ver o que eu publiquei no meu blog, por favor?
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 11:04, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
RE. Apartment on Mohawk Avenue
Hey whats up? Sorry The late reply, i was just going to tell you i am going to remove the housing projects catagory, and i was just wondering, what is the difference between apartment compleexes and housing projects? i probably sound stupid but i actually Dont know. Please Get Back to Me. Dmz2002 (talk) 16:01, August 10, 2013 (UTC)Dmz2002
RE: Hey
Yeah, it's cool here but dangerous cuz gang wars happen everytime better live in Hollywood than here
P.S : Sorry for long reply TheDonkeyFool (talk) 14:08, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
No,Thom Instulent wrote those speeds first before i enter GTA Wiki.But this time it is replaced by me because i just ask Instulent's permission and played also those GTA games so thats why i know
== image policy warning
oh sorry, i cant believe that i forgot! i will fix this too ASAP! sorry again.
dang, i forgot to sign it.
sorry, i am reaally losing it today i forgot to sign the letter. it was about the image policy. LOL!Dmz2002 (talk) 20:50, August 13, 2013 (UTC)Dmz2002
About gallery's
I was also curious how to give the license to images in a gallery, because when i hit to modify the image in the gallery, it just says to but a description, or a photo link. i have checked the image policy, but it does not say how to do this. can you help please? Thanks! Dmz2002 (talk) 21:00, August 13, 2013 (UTC)Dmz2002
IDK know man, I can't say anything right now... I just went to the shop to buy some Nike CTR Maestri 360 III and spend 40 dollars on them, 40 dollars which I needed to buy GTA V. My mom doesn't want to hear about video games and my dad says he won't let me buy it since it's not on PC... At least if I had the money I'd felt better. I'm so fucking sad right now.Dodo8 Talk
- Well, maybe I'll get enough money in October to buy it. About the Ballas, I think there will be a mission where you have to get Grove Street back, also you can observe that The Johnson House has been demolished :( Dodo8 Talk
7000th Edit!
Congrats for your 7000th edit! you're almost there! (1000 edits I mean). Kingrhem (Talk ★ Edits) 15:35, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
Yo so I saw that you reverted the Families' page. I belive my post was justified as I backed up my information, also the people on the talk page decided to change the name. So I tink its unfair of changing it without telling me why you did it.
Grove Street Saints (talk) 20:21, August 30, 2013 (UTC)Grove Street SaintsGrove Street Saints (talk) 20:21, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
I apolgize if the information was wrong, but Ganton represents Compton in GTA SA. And its replaced buy Strawberry in GTA V which is a turf under the Ballas' control. Also that in the leaked gta 5 gang trailer Steve Haines never mentions Grove Street or the other sets.
The second one I wrote that Lamar is a drug dealer because Franklin said he was selling drugs in the Franklin trailer.
Grove Street Saints (talk) 20:34, August 30, 2013 (UTC)Grove Street SaintsGrove Street Saints (talk) 20:34, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Yeah, I had to rollback his edits because he kept changing robbers to gangsters. Let me know if he persists and I will block him. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 11:56, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Missions
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/03/world-first-hands-on-with-grand-theft-auto-v «Pato8» 16:33, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
what's wrong with that? He is based on eminem so i don't see why it's a problem. (talk)
We're still having problems with the signings of the messages; it doesn't work, hence why we removed it, temporarily.
As for the crews, sorry, I'm already in three crews, one of which is our Wiki's crew, and I'll play as a member of this crew almost exclusively to promote the Wiki. Sorry, bro. :( -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 10:50, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Yep, Tony founded this one, so he's the head. I'll try to figure out how to make the damn template work by the time of V's release. And, I'm currently aking a break from editing while I'm on chat, I'll be back in a few minutes or so, so I'll help you :) -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 11:00, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
It's not a problem. Thank you for your polite comment! -- Painkill (talk) 13:47, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
RE:Renaming pages
What are you talking about? Cloudkit01 (talk) 20:01, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
Epicnoobs created those two pages, not me man. Cloudkit01 (talk) 20:07, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
I renamed the pages to Los Santos International Airport (3D Universe) and Los Santos International Airport (HD Universe). -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 06:05, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
I don't want to hear or watch any leaked videos/spoilers until the game's release, so no, I won't watch it. But keep users from adding info about that leak, as I go to sleep. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 21:11, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Leaked info
I thought it was pictures only, sorry for that. You can revert my edits.
09:57, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Protection
I'm good thanks, and you?
The GTA IV page is complete and the game is finished. I see no reason why anyone would want to edit the page and therefore no reason to remove protection. Tom Talk 17:17, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
Inactivity notice
I just wanted to let you know, school starts on 16 September. Here, at the end of the year we will have to pass 2 exams with a grade as high as possible, this will decide our future. The higher the grade, the better the high school. Due to this I'll have to learn a lot and do a lot of homework, so I will become inactive. I'll try to check the wiki as much as possible, maybe even daily, but I won't edit that much. Cheers! Dodo8 Talk
Hi Thomas, could you avoid using the "Locations" and "Areas" categories, we have a lot of categories for the same things at the moment so I'm trying to avoid contributing to the issue, thanks. Tom Talk 16:53, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
- You can use areas for neighbourhoods I guess, but maybe a seperate category is needed. Categories are supposed to make navigation easier, but when every single location throughout the series is in the locations category, it doesn't do that. That should be a main category with only subcategories added to it. The categories are a real mess on this Wiki. One day I'll get round to sorting it, but that's a mammoth task. Anyway, get back to the good work :). Tom Talk 17:24, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
If you're gonna make mission pages for GTAV, fill them with some info, don't leave 'em blank! -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:06, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. I was busy playing V, so I haven't noticed the edits made today. Good work. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:09, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
- Same here; Trevor ruined The Lost Brotherhood - Terry and Clay are dead, too. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:16, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
- Why the fuck did you tell me! I'm yet to reach this mission!! Joking, I knew he'll die (due to the leaks), but please don't spoil me the story. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 20:09, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Same here; Trevor ruined The Lost Brotherhood - Terry and Clay are dead, too. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:16, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Death of Johnny K
Honestly, I'm shocked that Klebitz dies by the hands (well, foot) of Trevor, but then, I found it funny how Trevor described Johnny's death to Terry, Clay, and other Lost MC members, then I found it shocking again that Trevor kills them all at The Range. I hate Trevor for that and that's why my brother will play him, not me.
--Tony1998 (Talker * Blogger * Stalker)-- 19:34, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
A Favor
Hi Tommy, I hope you don't count this as spamming, but can you please sign this petition? every sign in is important. AK-28 (Talk ★ Edits) 23:13, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
What the hell, man?
Why try to delete the 'Aliens GTA V' article. I serioulsy suggest you actually play GTA V before assuming that an aspect of it you haven't heard of doesn't exist. Try 'Grass Roots' it's a good example and it's unlocked quite near the beginning of the game. It's one of Michaels strangers and freaks missions.
They are aliens, I mentioned the Grass roots mission to prove their existance. Later on in the campaign they abduct you. In a space ship. Beacuse they're aliens. Also the grammar was fine, and I hadn't yet got to a point where there was need to link to anything.Abeardedgoat (talk) 14:40, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
Also I appreciate that you're trying to save face, but theres no need to lie about it.
Page creating
Sup Thomas, may I ask why are you creating pages with no content what so ever? Seems pointless to me Instulent (talk) 20:20, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Ah ok.. where would you like me to start? :) Instulent (talk) 20:23, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Cool. Where abouts are you in the storyline? Instulent (talk) 20:30, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
No lol, I meant where abouts are you in the storyline of GTA V? :p Instulent (talk) 20:34, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Aren't you going to get spoiled tho? I mean I've seen a couple of major spoilers here.. Instulent (talk) 20:37, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Wow.. you really love this wiki, don't you? :D Instulent (talk) 20:47, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Why not propose to it then? Instulent (talk) 21:01, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Nice. There should be a medal system for good work or something like that.. and if there were one, I'm 100% sure you would get one.. Instulent (talk) 21:16, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Eh too lazy, but your welcome to take the idea if you want :) Instulent (talk) 09:07, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Rename
Done. Tom Talk 14:20, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
Railroad Crossings
No problem! Feel free to ask me anything about Grand Theft Auto V! I absolutely love that game and am highly addicted to it, so I know a lot about the map, the vehicles and some characters! Smashbro8 (talk) 19:32, September 25, 2013 (UTC)Smashbro8
Grove Street
Someone had put a note on the Hood Safari page mentioning it. I think it maybe something like the multiple conversations were recorded like in IV, because I can't rightly remember them talking about this. I'm replaying the mission right now to confirm (yes, I probably should have done this first). Shadowrunner(stuff) 19:49, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
Hey friend, are you busy? I need your help with something :) Bar27262 (talk) 20:17, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
I need you to verify what I made in Wanted Levels in GTA 5 about the Military. I need you to see if I'm not the only one being chased. Bar27262 (talk) 20:28, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
I think it was just Military. It didn't look like Merryweather security. It was the Camouflague Jeeps typically used by Military. Bar27262 (talk) 20:35, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
Probably. We'll see soon hopefully. Bar27262 (talk) 20:45, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
Look the map, man! Is Murrieta not Murietta, fuck!
Indeed, brother-uncle Thomas. I am in 1000 places in the same time. Kifflom guides me to the knowledge of everything. KIFFLOM! Dodo8 Talk
- I feel your pain, brother-uncle Thomas. Zongar's enlightenment will be revoked immediately! KIFFLOM! Dodo8 Talk
I really don't know. I think it will be released on PC though, all the petitions and general outcry should show them how wanted this game is. I have a feeling it'll be announced soon, Rockstar like to keep everyone waiting. Tom Talk 18:35, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks man. Yeh, I finished the game, with 'Deathwish', as it is the only ending I can choose without throwing the console out the window :P -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 12:12, October 1, 2013 (UTC) Damn, that sucks, man. To be honset, I thought you had Xbox 360. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 14:08, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
Great, but I have two probs with it:
- Color (too bright)
- Sections for individual ranks; the only rank that should get its own section is 'Boss' (better be called 'Don' for this one). Other sections should be just 'Members'.
Other than that, I don't have any complaints -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 19:49, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
RE: McReary family
Yep, Packie mentions it during a heist. That family had it rough, I made the same decisions as you. That kind of makes Packie seem like a bit of a dick, leaving his elderly mother all alone at the other side of the country! Tom Talk 20:00, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
Ya, tudo bem, e contigo?
Hoje faz uma semana que eu comprei o GTA V depois de ter achado uma nota de 100€ debaixo do tapete de um banco que fica no caminho para a escola.
O jogo é muito bom. Eu diria que achei tudo excelente, menos a parte que não podes ir nem ao Burger Shot, nem ao Cluckin' Bell, nem ao Up 'n' Atom, nem ao Taco Bomb... :(
Mas de resto, o jogo está muito bem feito, e se tivesse saído na Primavera deste ano, não ia estar tão bom.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:02, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
Não faz mal, os acento, eu percebo na mesma.
Mas sim, por acaso as missões podiam ter mais conteúdo de gang, mas a história também não é só sobre o Franklin, acho que é por aí.
A cidade, em si, não é super-gigante, mas mesmo assim, acho uma cidade muito divertida - nada a ver com Liberty City - e as montanhas são um bom sítio para ir quando se começa a enjoar da Baixa de Los Santos (LS Downtown).
No outro dia, depois de ir à mansão do Devin em Tongva Hills, desci aquilo tudo de bicla, com o Michael, até Vespucci Beach. A resistência dele subiu a pique.
Isto das estatísticas, como a direcção, a resistência, o fôlego, etc. etc. já fazia falta, desde o San Andreas.
Quando comprares o jogo vais-te divertir, até porque as missões são imaginativas (como no Chinatown Wars, mas com gráficos decentes).
Só uma dica, não faças como eu fiz com o IV, o TLAD e o TBoGT: eu vi as primeiras 13 missões de cada um, antes de ter os três jogos - na altura eu pensava que os episódios tinham o mesmo número de missões que o IV... - e quando fui jogar, as missões perderam a graça toda, porque eu já tinha percebido onde é que as missões iam dar. Muito menos ver a missão final, porque aí é que o jogo perde a graça toda mesmo.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:31, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
Acho que a Rockstar tinha dito que não ia fazer nenhum "episódio" do GTA V, e é essa uma das razões para eles terem posto três protagonistas em vez de um só.
Sobre a personalização, eu jogo o GTA V e vêm-me à cabeça os momentos de há 9 anos, com o SA.
Os veículos, especialmente os carros estão MUITO bem feitos.
E a roupa também, ando sempre a vestir o Franklin à "gangsta", o Michael como quarentão dos 80, tipo o Tomy Vercetti, e o Trevor, ponho-o com bonés da Discount Store, t-shirts e as calças cinzentas de fato de treino (ou de moletom). E às vezes com os óculos de aviador.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:52, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
RE:About the banana guy
I don't know what happened to him, ask Ilan about him. Cloudkit01 (talk) 20:29, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Thomas, I don't need help. I'm racing The Tom and your helpis kinda like cheating XD -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 14:45, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
- On the other hand. Yeah,we need help. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 15:04, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
Antagonist gangs
As you're aware, me and Ilan are in the process of cutting down on categories. I don't feel that "Antagonist gangs" is a particularly useful category, so could you stop using it. Thanks. Tom Talk 18:34, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
- I get your logic, but the issue will be solved when we get round to those categories. As today showed us all, it's going to take a while. Thanks for the help today by the way :). Tom Talk 18:38, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
Attaching Pictures
Oops!! Sorry didn't notice this message. I will read what you said to read now. Alinya (talk), At Your Service! 18:42, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
- I would like to ask, would this image name be okay: JamaicanHeatSMG-GTAIV-it's-location
I'm sorry to see Cheats in GTA III turned back. Did I overste my bounds somehow? I had wished to fix the error in you cheat coding. "gunsgunsguns" is a simplistic and incorrect description of Increase guns & ammo. As I described, 3x "guns" adds one set, 4x"guns" adds two sets, etc.. so typing your cheat twice gives you 4x the ammo as just once. Hoffscore (talk) 15:51, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
What I did?. I follow the Image Policy. Rhenrique (talk) 16:43, october 8, 2013 (UTC)
No problemo, bro! I'm currently rank 14 so I'll help. -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 17:44, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Online
I haven't played Online yet, so I won't be much help. I'll help out with the double redirects though. Tom Talk 17:51, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I've seen Lukaku scoring and the resume of the match! Tukey showed they can be dangerous, they beat us in Romania 0-2. That's what happens when you have a good coach, like Fatim Therim is. Our coach is still Victor Piturca, nobody likes him because he's making bad choices. You heard about Alexandru Maxim (23), the one who scored many times and has many assists for VfB Stuttgart? He's playing on an abnormal position all the time because Piturca brings a guy who should retire on Alex's normal position? His name is Bogdan Stancu, he plays for a team in Turkey you never heard of. Yet, he's still a titular in every match. We have some good players, if we'd have a good coach it would be even better.
Dodo8 Talk 19:57, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
RE:GTA Online help invite
I wish I could help you man, but I can't because I haven't play GTA Online yet, but if you did created new mission for GTA Online pages, I'll always add the link to characters, vehicles, cities, places, areas, etc. that users here always forgot to do it. Cloudkit01 (talk) 14:56, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
RE:Deal Breaker
Sorry for a late replay. It's done :) -- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 11:29, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
Why did you change my edit ----
Can you please stop editing my stuff, I'm not putting useless info, I'm just adding facts about the game that's what trivia is.
Stop editing my stuff please
It's difficult for us now, we will have to defeat Portugal/Croatia/Greece/Ukraine to qualify to Brazil. And I've never been to a stadium anyway, my dad doesn't like football. My best friend says that we will go together to our Stadium in Ploiesti someday though. I've only seen matches at TV. :( Dodo8 Talk 10:22, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Here in Romania, the price of a PS4 is the same price used for the PS3 before the PS4 was announced officially. It's around 500 euros. I still like playing on the PC more. I hope we will be lucky at the draw on Monday, I think the easiest to defeat is Greece. Dodo8 Talk 10:33, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
This is not spectaculation.Tom is all the real data based on my overview myself without anyone's accompaniance
Rapid GT? --ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 18:46, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
If you are still wondering that vehicle, I think it strongly looks like Penumbra. Switch101 (talk) 19:25, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
I think it is an Adder. Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 19:30, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
I'm stuck between the Adder, Surano or a different model of the Rapid GT. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:46, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
We drawed with Greece! We've been lucky! BTW, there's some guy, his name is Kahinde Fatai. He's from Nigeria, but moved to Romania since he was a teenager, he's now 23. He is playing for Club Brugge on loan from Astra Giurgiu, a team from Romania. He's married to a Romanian woman, so he can get the Romanian citizenship faster than other people. Rumours say that his request for playing for our national team is about to be approved. He would be the first player born outside Romania to represent our national team. What do you think?
Also, Steaua drawed yesterday at home with Basel. Unfortunately, Steaua only got 1 point in 3 games. They can still hope for the 3rd place though. I'm not supporting Steaua anymore anyway, the coach was very confident before the first group match, he was annoying. They thought they could win the group! And he said that the other teams in our championship will never beat Steaua as long he's a coach. So now I'm supporting FC Petrolul Ploiești, my hometown's team. They are on the third place in the Romanian League, 3 points away from Steaua which is on the first place. Astra Giurgiu is on the second place with a better goalaverage. Dodo8 Talk 16:06, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
- We were indeed lucky! Let's hope our coach won't screw up this chance! About the Romanian league, we can't compare to Germany. Steaua, which is on the first place in Romania, was defeated in UCL 3-0 by the 4th team in Germany, Schalke. Good thing Belgium is qualified, you won't be so nervous since you won't have to play against another team to qualify. Cheers! Dodo8 Talk 08:05, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
I just realised I am an agnostic. Since a few years, I started to believe that most of the parts of the bible might not be 100% true. I still believe in God though. That makes me an agnostic, right?Dodo8 Talk
RE: GTA Online
Not a problem. I'm happy to help. If you have any big projects that you need a hand on, drop me a message here. If you want to get in contact with me more efficiently and receive a reply in a timely manner, use my email at email@example.com. 'Till then, I'll just be browsing around, touching up whatever I can.
- Sadly that's not me, no. What I meant was, if you ever see anything that needs a widespread overhaul - for example, a category that needs all its articles moved or an enhancement project that needs editors - feel free to enlist me. I'm looking to get my count up on this particular wiki. I'm new here but not new to editing.
- Going to finish up as many Online mission articles I can, going in order from the top down on the Missions in GTA Online page. I'll finish off the missing pages for Simeon and Gerald and move on to Madrazo's missions. I hope you don't mind if I rip screenshots from video walkthroughs on YouTube. If that's not acceptable, I'll upload them without images and let you finish that off.
"...Since when do snipers have wings?!" ♠ Gamer.Matt 05:28, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
It is quite a good idea but the missions come from them seperatly and if you ever need to know who gives the missions then look at this. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 09:53, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Your welcome, and what do you mean about the list having reason? VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 10:07, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Yeah, I guess you should have it saying TP Industries then (or whatever it was). VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 10:15, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tom. Could you vote on the Community Notice Board please? VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 14:25, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
TBOGT Theme Song
I see that you have reverted my edit on the Grand Theft Auto: The Ballad of Gay Tony page. I don't believe the Pjanoo (Club Mix) is the theme for it. The Pjanoo (Afterlife Remix) seems more like the theme. Also, I never heard that alternate version, the Club Mix, In anything in "The Ballad". If you foretell me some evidence of the club mix to be it, that would be great cause I'm confused. If you do look into it, here both songs:
Pjanoo (Afterlife Remix) - The one I believe to be the theme song.
Pjanoo (Club Mix) - The current music which I really never heard until I heard it on the Grand Theft Auto: The Ballad of Gay Tony page.
An explanation would be great to eradicate my confusion I have currently.
Kind regards, Haloprov
~Sig don't work on this wikia
Hey, for a little more sourcing, here's this:
Grand Theft Auto IV - The Theme Song Collection.
Just to help you out on your investigation, User:Haloprov
Hey, are you having any progress? User:Haloprov
Hey Thomas the changes I made were accurate. ChuckieBoyz (talk) 23:23, October 29, 2013 (UTC)Chuckie Boyz
News Team
The news Team has been formed. You can report the news on Thursday, I have Monday and Mikey has Sunday. I just made one so look on my blogs for a brief layout. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 20:06, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tom. Just letting you know it's your turn to report the news tomorrow! VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 21:23, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
News Team Template
Hi Tom. I created the template that we will put on our blogs on our day of the news. I'm already adding it to yours. Take a look at it. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 09:38, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
I updated the staff page and now I'll do the news team one. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 12:55, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
Done. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 12:57, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
I ill work on my grammer BTW thankyou for being polite. Owen1983 (talk) 00:36, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Hey there Thomas! I just wanted to drop by a message, since you contacted me a few months ago, and I don't think you ever saw my reply. I'd be happy to help out here (though I have been editing here and there for a while now), as long as I know what I should contribute to! At the moment, though, I'm not sure what I should work on.
I also wanted to say that I love the idea for the Wiki News (though I don't know who came up with it originally). If you ever need someone to fill in, or help out, occasionally, don't hesitate to contact me! I was also thinking that it would be cool to have a huge quarterly edition of the Wiki News (comes out in March, June, September, December - the end of each quarter), and is a huge summary of everything GTA that happened during that quarter (similar to the WikiProject Video games Newsletter over on Wikipedia). If you ever want to contact me privately about any of the above topics, feel free to send me an email! I'll be sure to reply.
All the best, Rhain1999 (talk) 07:50, November 17, 2013 (UTC).
I just added Franklin's official artwork what's wrong with that? And I deleted the name of "Franklin in GTA V" because that's pretty obvious and Franklin is only on GTA V. Hamodey1 (talk) 04:31, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
You didn't believe me when I told you Piturca knows nothing about coaching? We lost to a modest team of Greece! The bad thing is, Piturca can't be fired because the federation woul have to pay him 1,5m euros! Good luck to Belgium!Dodo8 Talk 08:36, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
Be Sure to put San Andreas to be released in December in the wiki news on thursday! EpicPonyMuffins (talk) 17:44, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Skylift
Hey Thomas! The skylift can only be obtained through cheats, and still its hard to do. As far as parking it goes, the only place it can go without disappearing is outside Niko's safehouse in middle park east. Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:23, December 4, 2013 (UTC)
Wow, I never have seen a purple Infernes in TBoGT. Boomer is the one who is really into skylifts, but as you said it serves no purpose. Anyways. Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:06, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
Wiki News
I was just thinking. How about instead of having loads of multiple days for making the news, we have one day, perhaps Monday since it is the start of the week. We would make some sort of sandbox page and their me you and Mikey would add different pieces of news to the page whenever we heard some and then on the Monday, the news from the sandbox would be implemented onto a blog. Think about it. LS11sVaultBoy 12:58, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
Sem problema. Eu já tinha feito a actualização, e até já tinha lido no site da Rockstar, ontem. No Domingo, vou adicioná-lo à minha edição das notícias.
Fora-de-tópico: Na terça-feira começam as minhas férias de Natal, finalmente.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 17:38, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. We could have a page called something like Wiki News/Sandbox where we would over the course of the week write in all the news we hear and then on Monday it would all be put into a blog post. Also, Mikey says that he doesn't agree with the idea. LS11sVaultBoy 21:38, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
News Sandbox
I made the Wiki News/Sandbox page for me you and mikey to add to and then on mondays, I'll publish everything in it into a blog post. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 18:21, December 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Nice archive and also, Mikey said that because he sometimes finds it hard to put his news on due to his internet, it's probably best we do this. Also, we can start adding news to the sandbox anytime. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 18:38, December 16, 2013 (UTC)
- No, what it is is every week we all add into the sandbox and then it gets published on mondays. We all contribute at the same time. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:24, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I'll do it. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:39, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I just had an idea. What time is it where you are? LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:52, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, let's say if I don't publish it by 18:00 where you are then you publish it. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:17, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Haha, best guy ever he is. That's made my day. Thanks. Oh, and by the way, congratulations on getting 10,000 edits! LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:27, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
Congrats for achieving 10000 edits! AK-28 (Talk ★ Edits) 18:31, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
Dan & Jeff
You can always ask them yourself. Tom Talk 13:37, December 22, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Blog Post
I deleted it. I'll publish it tomorrow morning at about 8-9AM. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 22:06, December 22, 2013 (UTC)
Weekly News
The news has been put up. Take a look and have a try on our Caption Contest. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:32, December 23, 2013 (UTC)
Olá, tudo bem, Tomás?
Gostei da ideia das missões do Online. Mas também me-podiam ter falado disso. Como parte da Equipa das Notícias da Wiki, também gostava de ter sabido disso de ante-mão.
O post está muito bom. Grande ideia, a das fotos.
Já agora, Boas Festas.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:54, December 23, 2013 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!!!
Hey man! Smashbro8 here! I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas! I might not be online tomorrow so I just wanted to wish you and other editors a Merry Christmas before I forget! Enjoy your day tomorrow! Smashbro8 (talk) 03:18, December 25, 2013 (UTC)Smashbro8
Dodo8 Talk 11:09, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Help me
I'm not sure if you know the background to this, but he was blocked, then he blew his second and third chances. Now he keeps messaging us asking to be his friend, he keeps telling me he has a job for me if I unblock him. I just ignore him, he'll go away eventually. Tom Talk 23:12, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Just a question
Nah, I only been past it while heading up to San Diego. It's pretty big actually, twice as sized as the Alamo Sea. Around the summer, the smell of salt protrudes out of the water and when the wind blows to the southwest, my town gets a scent of it. Also, Slab City is right next to it. Ring any bells? Lol
--Tony1998 (Talker * Blogger * Stalker)-- 21:56, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean don't ignore warnings from an administrator (asuming that by admin. you meant administrator)
What did you mean by don't ignore warnings from an admin.? ~TheAdamBomb2
Hi Thomas,
Thanks - I'm doing my best. The road-signs (and exits) for the Interstates + Route 1 is now finished. I'm working on the rest of the routes now ;)
PhilipMK (talk) 14:36, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
So by admin do you mean administrator? And I didn't receive warnings from anyone. TheAdamBomb2 (talk) 00:57, December 30, 2013 (UTC) TheAdamBomb2
Hey Thomas :) hier im Wiki gibt es eine Babel wo man seinen GTA Online Rank eintragen kann und eine für das Alter. Ich finde beide sehr gut und würde diese auch gerne im deutschen GTA Wiki haben, auch wenn es ein bisschen dreist ist aber könntest du mir den Code dafür geben! Sonny 11:45, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
Super, vielen Dank! :) Sonny 16:14, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I just want fellow gamers to know that he will yell out to the cops and they will chase you if you run past him with a wanted level. I thought it was a quirky fun fact!
OK, obrigado pela informação.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:35, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
The categories on this Wiki need a lot of work. We have a lot of pointless ones and some which just need organising properly, I'm not really sure how to go around doing that because it's a massive job, so for now we're just picking off a few less significant ones. Tom Talk 11:11, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
You seem to be the lead candidate. You deserve it. I couldn't feel sad about it, I can't be very much active because of school. Maybe after the exams I'll be able to apply again. Congratulations! :) Dodo8 Talk 17:42, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
- You could, if you want to write it. I have to admit I'm a little jealous on you. You are promoted since your first request. This would be the fourth for me. Maybe I'm not meant to be an Admin... Keep up the good work! :) Dodo8 Talk 09:25, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
It looks like your the wiki's newest Admin. I have to say, you are very active here and I respect how you have handled past situations on this wiki. All in all great job and I hope you have a great time being an Admin. :) Sasquatch101 (talk) 02:53, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
hi tom I was wondering if you know about this bug in the wiki, all the pictures have disappeared do you know anything about this? (gtchy1230) January 13, 2014 (UTC)
Exemplar Images
The images for the Exemplar, which has improved quality compared to low contrast ones, belong to me (which was from Rockstar Games Social Club website, and under my PSN name MetaKraken), which I edited out the files because the file names are identical. "Don't worry,----it's only collateral damage." 16:25, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
- Sure thing. I have been here for a while, it's that I wasn't expecting anything related to the images, so my apologies. "Don't worry,----it's only collateral damage." 16:34, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry bout that, old chap.
Yeah, wasn't sure about the image policies here. I mainly used to edit the RuneScape Wiki, and it was slightly different over there. Won't happen again! Cheers Lord Rapter, that one dude, the walking non-sequitur (talk) 05:53, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
Per the Election results, you're the new admin type dude around here.
Congratulations! And let me know if you have any questions about how to use the administrator tools. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:41, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Thomas! Congratulations on becoming ana admin! It's really weird seeing your name in blue as I'm normally used to seeing it in orange. I must admit, I believed in you the whole way and the first moment I started seeing your edits I believed you could make it far. Anyways, welcome to the admin team, happy editing. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:29, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, you know, looking at that screenshot really shows how much you've progressed. For someone who's native language isn't English, you really have got good at it. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 18:15, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
- Lol, yeah. You were promoted in less than a month after joining the wiki and you already had pretty much more edits than I did. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 18:24, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Thomas0802! I just wanted to say congrats on being elected as a new admin! I feel happy for you!
Smashbro8 (talk) 18:53, January 17, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
Congratulations! *Mario Style*
Hey, Tom, congrats man! You made the admin position. Though I'm abit sad, it was still an honor to be nominated. So, how is it?
--Tony1998 (Talker * Blogger * Stalker)-- 04:55, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
First thing first: congrats on joining the admins team!
Secondly, nice work, but don't make this page; instead, redirect users to Category:Gangs in GTA V, by doing this:
-- ILan (XD • Edits • Home ) 14:48, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
That Something Sensible one, I added a new heading, called Calls/Text after this mission
You deleted it later, saying We don't use this here
What don't we use here? I don't see the problem
1archerhbk (talk) 17:27, January 18, 2014 (UTC) 1archerhbk
Are videos allowed of post-mission phone calls?
1archerhbk (talk) 17:35, January 18, 2014 (UTC) 1archerhbk
Redirect for Did Somebody Say Yoga?
Hi Thomas, there is a problem, in interwiki-links question marks doesn't work, so i want to ask you if i could create this page Did Somebody Say Yoga as redirect for Did Somebody Say Yoga?. Greetings - Mike alias the Master of Contribution (talk) 00:21, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Danke :), Mike alias the Master of Contribution (talk) 00:26, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Parabéns ae cara, por ter se tornado um admin, desculpa se eu não votei, eu tive alguns problemas aqui em casa, o jogo que eu comprei não rodou, desse tipo, em todo caso, parabéns ;) istalo (Fala ae) 03:07, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
First of all, congratulations on your promotion! I bet you'll be a great admin. And sure, I'll check out your wiki and help a little. :) Boomer8 (talk) 03:46, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
RE: Invite
A wiki about the music in GTA is a fantastic idea! I'll head over right now. Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:02, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Congrats on becoming an admin here. If you need any help with anything, feel free to ask me. Messi1983 (talk) 10:30, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Parabéns, Tomás! Tenho a certeza que serás um grande administrador.
Boa ideia a da Wiki das músicas. Se tiver tempo também vou lá.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:52, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Thomas,i'm glad to be here,if i need any help i will definitely ask you :) Armin.$õmõ (talk) 02:29, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
Page Needs Renaming
Hey Thomas0802! Smashbro8 here! This page needs renaming to "Farting and Burping". That's all for now. Smashbro8 (talk) 01:35, January 21, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
Is there really a policy? I've added images before without a prob at all.--Hutchm (talk) 00:00, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
Cool, my lastest exam if on 30/1/2014, so I'll get the chance to edit. AK-28 (Talk ★ Edits) 07:15, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Thomas0802! Smashbro8 here! This user has been edit warring me, Cloudkit01 and Carl Johnson Jr. after we warned him to stop undoing our edits and removing warnings off his talk page. I think he needs to be issued a block. Thanks! Smashbro8 (talk) 20:00, January 23, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
Hey, Thomas!!! Thank you and you have a nice wiki page, i am a noobie on this lol and i cant wait to jump in and make articles!!!
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When we think of nutrition in schools, we think of school lunches. It's pretty well-established that when kids eat junk, lethargy and apathy can set in – not a great environment for learning. And of course, we want to teach our kids healthy eating habits. Feeding kids cheeseburgers and pizza every day clearly isn't the best way.
So while there's been resistance to making school lunches healthier, nutrition in schools has come a long way. This is due to proactive parents and educators who chose to fight the standard reasons for serving kids junk and make nutrition in schools a priority.
But when it comes to using candy, treats, and other junk as rewards, motivators, or "teaching tools" in schools, our culture still says it's just fine.
Why do we support junk food as snacks, rewards, and even curriculum tools when unhealthy lunches are losing acceptance? There are a lot of reasons:
- Kids are "entitled" to sweets; it's a part of childhood and make kids happy.
- Treats "motivate" kids.
- Food restriction, in whatever form, infringes on my rights, even if it means my child will receive sugary treats at school.
- Not everyone is dialed in to healthy nutrition. It's not on our radar.
- Treats are cheaper and easier than other types of rewards.
- It's ingrained in school culture. It's too hard to change.
But when the same reasons are applied to unhealthy school lunches, it looks like this:
- Kids are "entitled" to unhealthy lunches; it's a part of childhood. Junk make kids happy.
- Unhealthy lunches "motivate" kids.
- Food restriction, in whatever form, infringes on my rights, even if it means my child will be given unhealthy lunches at school.
- Not everyone is dialed in to healthy nutrition. It's not on our radar.
- Unhealthy lunches are cheaper and easier than other types of foods.
- Treats are ingrained in the school culture. It's too hard to change.
Sounds a bit far-fetched, right?
Candy Somehow Exempt from Nutrition in Schools
Rewarding and teaching kids with sugar isn't even considered part of nutrition in schools; it holds a a smiled-upon, exempt status. But as you can see, using our schools as a candy store is a pretty bad idea:
- Giving out food as a reward teaches children to eat when they are not hungry and can encourage life-long associations between food and behavior.
- It undermines nutrition education being taught in school.
- Rewards and bribes focused around food ultimately do not help children develop healthy attitudes towards food.
- When children are rewarded with food, they unfortunately associate "junk" food with being good or feeling happy.
- Associating food with good or bad behavior may have long-lasting effects on students' food preferences and eating style.
- Excessive consumption of "junk" food and lack of proper nutrition are contributing factors in cavities, obesity, and diabetes.
Despite some resistance to change at my child's school, we've made headway. Our principals are, for the most part, open-minded and supportive (unlike at other schools where parents may be told they just accept it or homeschool). It's early in the process and compromises have been made. Awareness is the just first step.
As a result of bringing this to the school's attention and working with the Parent Teacher Association (PTA) this past year:
- We created a policy for teachers to use a guide for classroom nutrition. While this policy does not prohibit teachers from using food or candy in the classroom, it raises awareness about the impact of doing so. It also requires teachers to survey parents about whether or not they permit their child to receive food in the classroom. This survey needs work, however; it forces parents to make an all-or-nothing choice about their child receiving ANY food (including birthdays and parties) instead of singling out sweets.
- Some teachers have stopped using candy in their classroom.
- Teachers stopped using candy in math lessons.
- We are now working on finalizing a policy for encouraging healthy food at parties and birthday celebrations.
Eliminating or even just reducing sugar in schools is a hot-button issue; progress is slow. But this isn't about blaming each other, the schools, the teachers, or the parents. It isn't even a "political" issue, which only serves to cloud the problem of obesity in this country. It's about schools sending a consistent and constructive message about how to eat healthy and celebrate in a fun yet healthier way.
I've talked here about how I'm working with my child's school to raise awareness (contact me if you'd like to see our policy). If you're concerned about nutrition in schools I encourage you to get involved in the school's PTA. You should also talk to your child's teacher, and if you still don't feel heard, speak to the principal.
Change can happen, but it has to be parents who move it forward. Being passionate about a hot-button issue may not make you the most-popular member of PTA, but it's truly gratifying to see people working as a team in the best interest of our kids.
We owe it to our kids to do this.
Further reading
- It's Up to Us, Not Our Kids, to Change the Food Environment
- Soccer Mom on a (Nutrition) Mission
- No More Skittles: School Snacks May Get Healthy Update
- Food as a Reward Infographic
- Constructive Classroom Rewards: Promoting Good Habits While Protecting Children's Health
- Alternatives to Food as a Reward: Promoting a Healthy School Environment
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Bluegill wont bite
Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:27 PM
I tried foam bugs to with long and short legs 3 different colors never one bite...
Whats the problem? The water I fish in is stained / kind of muddy... Not VERY bad though.
Is there something I can do to make them bite?
Oh and i'm fishing in a lake, tried in a pound too and still nothing ( same color water ) I live in texas and all the lakes by me are muddy or stained
Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:52 PM
Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:57 PM
I would try some nymphs. Hares ear or a Pheasent tail. Preferably with some soft hackle.
The water in a local pond here was pretty cold last Wednesday and a size 16 red zebra midge worked for me on a few fish.
Prince nymphs and scuds also do well. Once in awhile, a size 14 beadbead olive bugger.
Keep an eye out for water temps since the lower temps slow metabolism, which means smaller is usually best.
Also, look for ants. If there are any trees over the water on your preferred pond, a few ants might work.
Start with smaller size flies and work your way up and start with slow hand twist retrieves.
With summer coming up fast, hoppers and crickets have been known to work wonders in lots of places, so having some tied or bought by then is a good idea also.
Size 14 2x long dry fly hook.
Experiment is the key.
Good luck!
Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:13 PM
I have tried throwing grasshopper in the water beetles crickets, they wont even come to the top for them... i tried that a long time ago
Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:08 PM
I also have good results with a sz. 12 Damsel Nymph. Soft hackle flies are good as well.
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Sorry -- I guess the Evil Monkey movie awoke some deeply buried reserve of hostility in me...
Sorry -- I guess the Evil Monkey movie awoke some deeply buried reserve of hostility in me...
- Alex Ross on composer Gyorgi Ligeti
- Classic Film Preview on the great Renoir films Grand Illusion and Rules of the Game (easily in my top 5, along with 20 other movies).
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- Andy Duncan has a blog.
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- Edmund White on "The New Gay Fiction".
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Eyetracking and research have studied how people look at websites. Here are 10 useful findings you can use.
1. Top left corner gets the attention first
When users land on your site, their eye path starts from the upper left corner, and moves on from there. According to this eyetracking study by Eyequant these areas get the most attention:
Similar findings came from a study by Yahoo. Check your site and see what you have in these zones. Move the value proposition to the top left zone. Yes, there can be exceptions, but use this as a starting point and test from there.
Are you familiar with the Gutenberg diagram? It describes a general pattern the eyes move through when looking at (usually text-heavy) content. It fits this zoning conclusion pretty well, with the exception of the bottom right area.
The fourth, bottom right terminal area is where you should place your call to action. Note that this is not some universal truth, but a good starting point.
2. People read in F-patterns
Most people don't read, but scan. A 2008 study concluded that on average only 28% of the text is read.
Eyetracking visualizations show that users often read website content in an F-shaped pattern: two horizontal stripes followed by a vertical stripe. Another study confirmed this.
This is why you want your value proposition in the top and why your menu should be either top horizontal or on the left, vertical.
How to design for F-patterns? Read here.
A similar study called this the golden triangle.
3. Use visibly bigger introductory paragraphs for improved attention
Make introductory paragraphs in boldface or larger font size. When the test subjects encountered a story with a boldface introductory paragraph, 95 percent of them viewed all or part of it.
Every SmashingMagazine article starts with an intro paragraph:
Keep the paragraph line lengths short and in a single column – that's how people are used to reading text.
The font that you use doesn't really matter. Oh, and people like links – the number of clicks on the links goes up as you add more links.
4. People won't look past the first search results
If you're not in the top 2 or 3 in Google for a keyword, you're losing out. In an eyetracking study by Google most users found what they were looking for among the first two results and they never needed to go further down the page.
As it's increasingly harder to get the top spots, using long tail keyword strategy is very important.
5. People do scroll, but put most important content above the fold
Web users know how to scroll look below the fold, but not nearly as much as they look above the fold. Make sure the above the fold part contains your value proposition, but don't try to squeeze everything in there.
Scrolling is still better than slicing up lengthy content to several pages – it provides better usability. Just make sure you guide people to scroll down.
Wiltshire Farm Foods gives a hint in the bottom right corner:
Interestingly several studies point that the very bottom of a page also gets a lot of attention. That's a good place for a call to action.
6. Left side of the page gets more attention that the right
With some exceptions, people read from left to right. This is also why the left side of your web page gets more attention.
Web users spend 69% of their time viewing the left half of the page and 30% viewing the right half. A conventional layout is thus more likely to make sites profitable.
Amazon is known for their left side menu:
If you have a vertical menu, put it on the left. Navigation placed at the top of a homepage however performs best (seen by the highest percentage of test subjects and looked at for the longest duration).
7. Use high quality, large images
Use large, crisp images – recommends usability guru Jakob Nielsen based on his eyetracking studies. Image quality is a significant factor in drawing attention. People in pictures facing forward is more inviting and approachable.
Highrise features huge photos of customers, looking at you:
Fuzzy, small images are less inviting as are big glamor shots. Nielsen said the eye-tracking study also surfaced a counter-intuitive finding–people who look like models are less likely to draw attention than 'normal' people.
"A call center ad with model in it on the phone may be a good picture technically, but it will more likely be ignored," Nielsen said. Images appearing unneeded, at least peripherally, will be tuned out. Avoid cheesy stock photos.
8. Need to show pictures of smartphones? Stick with Apple products
A study by EyeTrackShop, a company now known as Sticky, recorded that consumers looking at groups of smartphones and tablets discovered that Apple's iPhone 4S and iPad 2 drew more glances and held people's attention longer than Google Android devices from Amazon, HTC, Motorola and Samsung.
The iPhone commanded the greatest amount of attention — 2.3 seconds, on average — in its group. Among tablets, the iPad tied with the Amazon Kindle Fire for the lead, at 2.4 seconds each.
9. Dominant headlines draw the eye
An eyetracking study observed that big headlines most often draw the eye first upon entering the page – especially when they are in the upper left corner.
Present a whole value proposition with the headline. Keep in mind that clarity trumps persuasion.
Rekko greets you with a dominant headline:
When you list a bunch of headlines on a page, most often it's the left sides of the headlines that get the attention. People typically scan down a list of headlines, and often don't view entire headlines. If the first words engage them, they seem likely to read on.
On average, a headline has less than a second of a site visitor's attention. This means that the first couple of words of the headline need to be real attention-grabbers if you want to draw attention.
10. First impressions take less than a second
When viewing a website, it takes users less than two-tenths of a second to form a first impression, according to an eye-tracking research conducted at Missouri University of Science and Technology.
Researchers found that their subjects spent about 2.6 seconds scanning a website before focusing on a particular section. They spent an average of 180 milliseconds focusing, or "fixating," on one particular section before moving on.
The website sections that drew the most interest from viewers were as follows:
- The institution's logo. Users spent about 6.48 seconds focused on this area before moving on.
- The main navigation menu. Almost as popular as the logo, subjects spent an average of 6.44 seconds viewing the menu.
- The search box, where users focused for just over 6 seconds.
- Social networking links to sites such as Facebook and Twitter. Users spent about 5.95 seconds viewing these areas.
- The site's main image, where users' eyes fixated for an average of 5.94 seconds.
- The site's written content, where users spent about 5.59 seconds.
- The bottom of a website, where users spent about 5.25 seconds.
Do you know of any other useful findings? Post them in the comments!


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New York, NY, November 21, 2012 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today welcomed the announcement of a ceasefire of the hostilities in Gaza brokered by the U.S. and Egypt. The announcement was made this afternoon in Cairo by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Egyptian Foreign Minister Kamel Amr.
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:
We welcome the announcement of a ceasefire and hope that it will result in a night without sirens and rockets and safe rooms for the 3.5 million Israelis living under threat of Hamas attack and provide Israel with an end to the nightmare of terror it has been living with.
Since the start of Operation Pillar of Defense, Israel has been willing to stop its targeting of rocket launchers, weapons storehouses and Hamas and other terrorist operation centers so long as the rockets and missiles stop being fired into Israel. Assuming the quiet achieved today continues, effective long-lasting measures supported by the international community must be put in place to stop the flow of weaponry into Gaza, particularly the long-range missiles supplied by Iran.
We extend our deep appreciation to President Obama and Secretary Clinton for their steadfast support of Israel during this difficult period and for their constructive efforts to reach a cease fire. The constructive participation of the Egyptian government both behind the scenes and actively in the negotiations leading to the cease fire announcement was crucial to the outcome. Because the most lethal weapons used to attack Israel enter Gaza through tunnels on the Egyptian side of the border with Gaza, Egypt must continue to play its important role in advancing the prospects for a permanent end to the rocket attacks on Israel by assuring that terrorists cannot use those tunnels.


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Two films that Steven Spielberg had a hand in, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Back to the Future, were both selected alongside 23 other films to be shelved forever in the Library of Congress' National Film Registry. They'll get locked up inside a hermetically sealed vault, and preserved in mason jars with really tight steel lids, to keep the freshness in. What other scifi films were deemed by the government to be worthy of preservation forever?
These films join 475 others in the National Registry, although only 13 others are science fiction, including everything from Alien to The Nutty Professor. Even Groundhog Day is in there, trapping Bill Murray for all eternity in a regressive time loop. The Library itself chooses a few of the films, and the public nominates the others, which means you've got films like Fast Times At Ridgemont High sitting alongside Citizen Kane, so we're not clear on how auspicious an honor this is. But at least future generations will have access to topless Phoebe Cates.
Check out some of the cool features of the National Film Registry's Film Vault/Bunker:
- It's built mostly underground, so a nuclear attack won't stop us from having fresh copies of Dances With Wolves at hand.
- There are over 90 miles of shelves inside, which make browsing a real bitch.
- A below-freezing vault keeps film masters, as well as Walt Disney's head, perfectly preserved.
- They preserve digital film at the petabyte (one million gigabytes) level. Cell phones will catch up to that storage level around 2015.
- It is fully equipped to playback antique film formats, even movies on Beta tapes.
- It has high-quality fiber optic connections to Capitol Hill for when your congressman needs to run out and catch a few minutes of Do The Right Thing.