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By Jeffy "Jlaix", Executive Coach for Real Social Dynamics
Hey, Friend. What's up.
Sometimes, being an Executive Coach for RSD is a lot like being a doctor in the ER. Ever since I started doing this, I've seen guys come to the programs in a PANIC about their inability to open groups consistently, paralyzing inner game issues,
terrible fashion sense, and so on and so forth. The equivalent of the gunshot wounds, car accidents and strokes that show up in the emergency room.
Along the way, RSD has earned a reputation as a company that solves problems. We like the rep, too... and we're proud that it's been a long, long time since we've encountered a problem with a guy's game that we couldn't fix.
And fix FAST.
Usually, taking a live RSD program can fix even the most hard-core problems - by pumping up confidence, setting up new belief systems, or straight smacking you up and turning you around 180 degrees, if you're headed in the wrong direction.
Sometimes, however, we need to go right to the heart of the problem, and start rearranging things from the ground up.
Often, the problems are just plain fundamental.
It's simple to work with clients who are saavy about
social interaction. But if they're NOT... it's like
starting a race 10 feet behind the starting line.
You gotta play a very fast game of "catch up".
So, like a doctor quickly checking vital signs, I
learned to do a *rapid* check-up on the basics of any
"patient". No matter how drastic the problem appears,
the *solution* to the problem is usually something
The basics are the first things to look at.
I've got my own checklist in my head now, because I've
done this for so long. But when I started out, before
I had a lot of experience with different kinds of
flaws in guys' game, I had to scramble to figure out
what was going on. This checklist you now hold in your
hands was created a long time ago... when I was still
being astonished at how FUNDAMENTAL most solutions
were to bad game.
I found this checklist recently, while going through
some files. Actually, these were just some notes I
scribbled down during a post-workshop debrief at 6AM
in London... me and the guys were wide awake, and I
had a flight to catch at 8, so we just stayed up until
dawn talking game. When I found it, I knew exactly what
it was.
This list served me very well in my early days of
Nothing whatsoever has changed about the fundamentals,
nor will they ever change. So, this list should serve
YOU well, too. It's the result of some hard-core
studying and experimentation... and also the input
from some of the best in the game. Enjoy.
Aside from body language, this is probably the biggest
thing I see missing from most guys' game. The fact of
the matter is, YOU CAN'T BUILD ATTRACTION
You can't mumble and fumble your opener and expect to
get a good response. You need to project your voice
from the diaphragm.
Five years of karaoke training have made this second
nature to me, but for a lot of guys, it feels unnatural.
Furthermore, it's sometimes necessary to raise the
pitch of your voice in order to cut through the loud
music playing at most clubs. Don't be concerned about
sounding like a Chipmunks Christmas album, it's not
noticeable amidst the thumping bass.
Your delivery is important, too. Ever heard a news anchor
flub a syllable on TV? It's minor, but because
it's on TV, it seems like a glaring error. It's the
same in pickup... you're being closely scrutinized, so
you need to eliminate all "ummms" and "ahhs" from your
vocabulary. SMOOTH.
Finally, start paying attention to the rhythm of your
communication. Rhythm, expression and sexuality are
all intertwined, and it's important to deliver a smooth
flow, modulating things dynamically.
So often, I see guys roll up to a set and deliver their
opener, then start making these weird, jerky head
movements. Like, they're having a damn seizure. The
girls are like, WTF??
Or sometimes, it's weird, spastic hand gestures. Or
maybe they're just shifting from foot to foot
incessantly. In any case, it's not long before the
ladies start giving each other that "let's get the hell
out of here" eye code. Buh-bye!
The point is, these things are subcommunicating a lack
of confidence.
In other words, while your words might be those of a
suave-ass James Bond type, the subtext is that of Steve
Just take a deep breath, and relax. This ain't brain
surgery, Bucko.
Another key one. This is related to #2, in the sense
that the perp is taking things way too seriously.
The difference is, in this case, the guy is acting
like he's an appointee for the Supreme Court being
interrogated by the Senate Judiciary Comittee. All
business. Stone-faced. Giving curt, matter of fact
responses to everything the chick says.
OK, what you gotta understand is that when the ladies
hit the club, they are there to HAVE FUN. Not to engage
in a job interview.
Loosen up, bro. Have a little fun yourself. Don't be
afraid to act a little foolish. Joke around.
What I mean by this is, you've gotta silence the
chatter in your head when you approach.
The only thing you should be thinking about is what's
unfolding as you go in. Not what MIGHT happen or what
COULD happen.
Consider this: a social interaction is a living,
breathing, dynamic thing during the course of which
an infinite number of things can occur.
Given that, doesn't it make sense that you'd need as
much "processor speed" as humanly possible in order to
perceive what's happening, decide what the proper
course of action is, and respond instantly?
Sure it does.
Cycling through failure scenarios in your head isn't
gonna do anything but rob you of that precious
Worse, that internal pollution is gonna taint the
broadcast: you will end up inadvertently giving off an
"insecure" vibe.
Don't do it!
Another thing that screws most people up at a
fundamental level is a lack of frame control.
Controlling the frame means controlling the context and
the direction of the conversation. Being commanding.
Too many guys will hear an unfavorable comment and just
deflate and give up. Or sometimes, the girls will say
something negative about them and they fall into it by
addressing it.
The next thing you know, the discussion is out of their
control and they're faced with the distasteful choice of
either digging themselves out of the hole, or giving up
and ejecting.
At this point, most guys do the latter. Frankly, so
would I.
Best to prevent things from getting to that point in
the first place. That means cutting off threads that
work against you.
That means talking over people who are saying
things that don't lead the conversation in
the ways you want it to go.
Sometimes, it means flagrantly changing the subject
with a ridiculous non-sequiter. Whatever works.
Frame control can be a difficult thing to learn, but I
can't stress this enough:
It's absolutely necessary.
Ever see that movie "Glengarry Glen Ross"? The motto of
the salesmen in the movie is "ABC: Always Be Closing".
This is the motto of the successful pick-up artist as
Don't get me wrong here. I don't mean you should go up
to women and try to get them back to your place in the
shortest time possible. Don't jump the gun... you gotta
take things one step at a time. This isn't a race.
By the same token, however, I get frustrated when I see
guys talking to these girls for hours on end without
doing anything to escalate things toward a situation
where things get physical.
Like, it's three hours in and they haven't even touched
her on the arm.
I think a big reason guys do this is because they're
afraid to get blown out. Like, they think, "Ok, this
is going great, she's laughing at my jokes and we're
vibing really well, I better not screw it up by trying
to escalate."
News flash, man... if they're sticking around, it's
highly likely that they know what's going on, and they
EXPECT you to escalate.
These girls have reasonable expectations that you're
gonna step up at some point and take things to the next
level. Don't let them down. It's just tacky.
Remember, once a girl's attracted to you, there's a
WINDOW of time in which you can "strike" so to speak.
Once that window's closed, you're done, bro.
Always have a direction, and always be moving the set
forward in that direction.
This one kinda ties in with #3. It's about being
At RSD, we define game as: the expression of your
inner state, conveyed by the rhythms you use to direct
the energy of the social interaction.
Some of these guys I see in the field are talking to
the girls, and they look like a marble bust of George
Washington or something... maybe that "strong silent
type" bit works in cerrtain cases, but we're going for
consistency, folks.
When I'm in set, I'm mugging like Jim frickin Carrey.
Sometimes I'll have this stupid smirk on my face, other
times I'll look at them like I'm judging them, other
times I'll scrunch up my nose and wink at them.
It all depends on the energy I'm getting from the girl.
I calibrate and react accordingly. There are XXX
muscles in your face (I don't know, it's a really big
number), and these let you express an almost infinite
range of emotions.
Try it now. Go to the mirror and make as many faces as
you possibly can. Go ahead... nobody's looking. And if
they are, at least you'll entertain them.
OK, that's enough. You're scaring me.
I do this frequently as an exercise to keep those
expressions queued up and ready to go.
Remember: 90 percent of communication is non-verbal,
and a HUGE portion of that 90 percent comes from the
expression on your face.
Trust me on this... it's gotten me laid more times than
I can accurately recall.
Similar to #6. Now, obviously, you don't want to spook
the girl by rolling up and getting two inches from her
face right off the bat.
That's just asking for rejection, it's creepy.
You wanna approach with non- threatening body language.
Maybe even a little "active disinterest". To show
you're not one of the dozens of needy losers that
hit on her every night.
At some point, you have to get closer. It's just a fact.
Okay? Nothing is gonna happen if you stay at arm's
length... except get your butt thrown into the dreaded
"friend zone".
You gotta "cut in".
I'll usually get all up in their space as soon as I
know I've hooked them. That is, as soon as I know
they've stopped thinking, "Why is this guy talking to
me," and started thinking, "I hope this guy doesn't
stop talking to me."
This doesn't mean I have to STAY there. I'll back off
just as abruptly as I went in. It all goes back to
calibration. Give-and-take.
The point is, I get in there. ASAP. You should too.
This is a funny one. You see this usually when a guy
has a lot of rehearsed lines and so forth under his
belt, although that's not exclusively the case.
What happens is the guy is saying things that SHOULD
sound smooth and cool... but it sounds like he's
reading from a script.
Like, it's a little TOO cool. Like an actor in an
after-school special about cheesy "players". Not pretty.
It's like, when you shoot a home video and you put on
some weird "narrator" voice... "And HEEEERE'S the
KITCHEN!!!" It's not genuine.
You do it because you know this might potentially be
viewed by thousands of people, and it's a defense
mechanism against being perceived in certain ways.
So when guys do this in field, it's the same thing. A
defense mechanism. They put out the character to
keep their "real" self safe from rejection.
Ironically, this tends to CAUSE rejection. Life sucks,
Believe it or not, most people (and especially women)
have a keen sense of when someone's faking sincerity.
Unless you're an acclaimed Shakesperean actor, you're
better off being genuine.
So that's the checklist.
Now, I'm not suggesting you write this thing down and
carry it around with you. Nor is it meant to be
a comprehensive cure-all.
These are just some of the most common mistakes we see
guys make in the field, so take a quick inventory and
see if you're guilty of any of them.
For guys with a lot of experience, it may seem
simplistic... but no one will doubt that the basics
are what get violated the most.
Use this checklist on yourself, until it becomes
second nature. And use it when you're doing triage on
someone else's sick game.
You'll be surprised how often the culprit behind a
problem is... the simplest thing in the world.
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Take it easy, player... see you next time.
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PickUp Artist
Free Attraction Guide
First, we will start with some quick, important nuggets of advice on enhancing you personal appeal... My father once taught me that If you have one finger pointing in one direction, then you have at least three fingers pointing back a you...
This section is filled with some great, easy personal advice and exercises that will boost your social level and have you attracting the people you desire.
So look below to see what you can do now to become a more attractive person .
Tools needed:
Mirror, Recording device (on your cell phone, a computer, a cheap one from Radio Shack or wherever), Space to be a little loud, a book or magazine(childrens books are great too)
Breathing: Give full power to your voice by breathing deeply from your lungs and diaphram. Make sure your stomach and/or rib cage rises when you inhale. If your chess rises, you are brething to shallow.
Posture:If you have bad posture it cuts your vocal power. Your upper body should be straight and a aligned. If you like, you can imagine a string is pulling from the bottom of your spine to the top of your head.
Advice for specific vocal problems and challenges:
Speaking too fast: When you speak to fast it tells people that your nervous, you are not confident and your words are not important.
Solution: A calm, slow voice commands authority. Exercise: Read two sentences from a book or magazine and record it. 1st: Say it with one breath without slowing down. Listen to it an notice how it sounds and what someone who speaks like that would convey to you. 2nd:Try reading tha same sentences calmly and slowly. Place pauses in different places for effect. Read it many different ways. 3rd: Try reading it very slow and deliberate with long pauses. Play with it and notice the difference. Its not always what you say but it is always important how you say it.
Forgetting what you are saying aka Brain Farts: Record a converation with friends. Do you say um, like, ahh, you know, you know what i mean etc. etc. alot. These are pausers, placeholders and brain farts.
Solution: From this moment til the end of time, slow down and listen to yourself talk, how it sounds and consciously choose your words. Cut the filler words out( like, um, ahh) If you make a mistake stop and correct yourself, peoplw will wait and listen.
Monotone Voice: Record yourself reading a paragragh. If it doesn't change in inflection, pace or tone then you may have a monotone voice and people will tune you out.
Solution: Record yourself or just listen to yourself as you Read a childrens' book, magazine or any book. Imagine reading to interested children. Use inflections. Pause for effect. Raise your voice and lower it. Use different beats and mix it up. Be interesting when you speak and people will be interested.
Then listen too it and find what you like and don't like but realize how interesing your voice is.
Soft or shallow voice: Grab your recorder or a friend. Find a space that you can be a little loud in. A good statement I found in Neal Stauss' book The Stylelife Challenge which I suggest you buy now is "I can say this without shouting and still be heard." or use a sentence from a magazine or book. Take a deep breath or two and as you are exhaling say the statement.
"I can say this without shouting and still be heard." Now take 2 steps back from the recorder or friend and repeat the statement so they can hear you but without yelling. Then step back a couple steps more and say it again "I can say this without shouting and still be heard." Notice how you can better be heard with a little breathing control, posture and basic know how.
Homework: Listen to comedians and professional speakers on google. Mimic their timing. Try to sound like them. Repeat their jokes. Do this for 15 to 30 minutes a day for a 7 days.
On the below list, Apply at least one of the items that you are lacking or need. Do the things on the list that you are not as comfortable with. You don't become a better person or improve dramatically without being a little uncomfortable. It's comforatable to sit in front of the tv, its less comfortable to workout or talk to a stranger or improve. If you did something that made you a little uncomfortable once a day, you would improve and grow rapidly.
Change your hair: Get a mens fashion, music, or trend magazines. Find a hairstyle you and/or a friend likes and go get it from a stylist. Have them recommend hair product.
Get contacts or Lasix Eye Surgery: If you've been wearing the same glasses for years and you never get compliments on them, get contacts or laser eye surgery. If you can afford it.
Get a tan: Get some color...Spray tans are much better these days or sit in a tanning bed.
Get a manicure and pedicure: You dont need to get nail polish but do it. Girls and guys notice these things and if they notice, you should care. Do it...
Remove excess hair: Grab the tweezer or trimmers and get the ear hair, nose-hair, hair between the eyebrows, hair on the back of your neck and back reomved. Trim, shave, cut, wax... whatever it takes.
Get close to a mirror examine yourself: A magnifying mirror would be best. Tweeze stray hairs, get the nail clippers to cut and clean fingernails and toenails. Get professional facial products for your skin type. Stay moisturized to promote healthy glowing skin. Drink hal your bodies weight up to 90oz in water each day to help cleans your system. Its less water than it sound. Remove ear wax with a Q-tip etc.
Manage your eyebrows: Get them tweezed or waxed. Get the professionally lightened or darkened to fit your look. Go to a spa to have it done, if you like.
Teeth Whitening: There are many ways to get your pearly whites whiter. There are whitening strips, gels etc. Whiter teeth make you look younger and healhier.
Fresh Breath:Floss daily, brush your teeth throughout the day. Get an electric toothbrush and good toothpaste. Use mints and gums. If you have halitosis, get a tongue scraper.
Free dermatology advice: Go to department store. ask a person in the skin or beauty lotions area to recommend products for your skin, get the equivalent at a cheaper store.
Join a gym: Talk to a trainer or look online for free training advice from Menshealth.com, mensfitness.com, womenshealth.com or google free workout or virtual trainer. Ipod has a great virtual training app. Make sure you do cardio training to reduce fat and strenghth training to build muscle. Consume yourself into the fitness world and health lifestyle. You will look and feel much better and people will notice.
Eat Healthy: Eat fresh fruits and vegetables. Control you caloric itake, limit or cut out your saturated fats. Control yourself from having excess salt, foods high in preservatives and refined sugar. Reduce your carbs and eat more lean protein. Consult a doctor or nutritionist. Read Kevin Trudeau's book, Natural Cures and The Weight Loss Cure. Checkout http://www.naturalcures.com/ for more ideas.
Well fitted clothes: Take a serious look at your waredrobe. Go through your closet and either get the clothes that do not fit you well tailored or give them away to Good Will, the Salvation Army, sell them at a consignment shop. Get well fitted clothes that are good for your body type and build.
Do the things you've been putting off: If you have tattoes you don't want anymore(girlfriend or boyfriends name), foot or body odor, excessive sweat problems, skin blemishes, acne etc... Get them taken care of now. Make the appointments. Don't put it off. Its your looks and physical appeal... they are important. No more excuses.
This is the general structure of the Art of Attraction and Pick up. This is some important advice that you should read from some of the best... Do not skip. Enjoy!
Style's Structure
Author: Neil Strauss
I took some notes for myself the other day, and thought I'd share them. I guess this is my structure. May be too general and basic to help anybody,
but here it is for posterity's sake.
Do improvised or canned opener -Click the Opener Tab for Examples
Give yourself a time constraint ("I can only stay for a minute because
I'm with my friends over there")
Body language as if you're about to leave
Convey personality, smile, but don't be over-enthusiastic
STEP TWO (you can also fractionate opener to do this)
Best friend test -Click the Games and Test Tab for Examples
Make perceptive or teasing comments about them (negs are included here) -Click the Neg's Tab for Examples
Insert challenges -Click the Games and Test Tab for Examples
-Click the Games and Test Tab and Attraction Tab for Examples
STEP THREE (can also be done during or after step four)
Option 1: Takeaway or false takeway -Click the Attraction Tab for Examples
Option 2: Join the group, mid-story or routine, but again give yourself
time constraint
Use gimmick, magic, psychic routine, humor, game, whatever -Click the Games and Test Tab for Examples
Elicit Values -Click the Comfort Tab for Examples
Find Commonalities -Click the Comfort Tab for Examples
OPTION ONE: #close
OPTION TWO: Isolate target, phase shift/seduce, and *close -Click the Closing Tab for Examples
OPTION THREE: Stay in group (or return to group) so that you end the
night with them. Try to get to target's house, or get her to your house
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
This is a model I follow to successfully, approach, attract and seduce women and it is modelled after some of the most successful models of PUA in the world.
Most of the phases you will recognize but I have included two new phases as I think they are crucial.
Two new phases are
1. Pre open value calibration phase
2. The hook phase.
So let's begin.
NOTE: If you follow this model you will get laid like rockstars. Just had a RAFC friend of mine, follow this model had a hot 8 on saturday chase him and offer her number to him. Just one week ago he would stall after the opener.
7 Point Model of Seduction
1. Pre attract Phase (Clothes, social proof, body language, etc) This is my step that I have added. Remember you must calibrate your social value to the set before you even open your mouth. Alot of guys shoot themselves in the foot before they even open their mouths and get blown out, simply on non verbals. If you are going to open a 10, you must raise your "PRE-OPENER" Value before the set will even let you game them.
2. Opener - Must be non sequitar and must not convey any interest. I always use...
Guys first impression these rings. I wear these big ass chunky rings - Blows open sets in clubs like fuckin' crazy. Or hey guys first impression these necklaces. I have some wierd, gothic style necklaces that I wear
Or How tall are you?
Do you believe in ESP?
In a Mall, I use an opinion opener and have stacked routines or stories that sequey from that. Each stacked routine has very little or no relationship with the previous thread. This idea of multiple threading, or stacking routines is an art form and we must get good at this.
NOW REMEMBER with a 10 you must NEG or value zing her to disqualify yourself from appearing like a potential "hitter" or "suitor" to her and her peer group if they are there.
I will say things like:
Too bad your not my type because you are really pretty
Or I will approach a set and say..Hey guys my name is McMaax. I just had to come by and ask you guys something. Let me see I need the most interesting one here. Not sure about you...Pointing to the target, but how about you to the Cockblock or ostacle? do you believe in magic, or whatever.
I will also sometimes give an HB ten "the finger" and she will usually say. WFT? but in an attracted way. If they say. you're an asshole. You have to be prepared for that contiengency and I reply. Look knucklehead, in my country that is a sign of affection!!!! I am being social, come on get up to speed!!!
I will say. Look I've been wanting to talk to you but you are surrounded by all of your friends, I don't know why yet I mean you are pretty but who cares beauty is common, so who are you or what do you have going on for you besides your looks? If she says, well I'm smart. I will say "And that is special because.......".
In fact last weekend at this high bitch shield club, we had 7 girls hanging off of our arms. How? I gave the 10 a finger and this baited her to open me. See this type of stuff immediately conveys that you must be getting laid because who disqualifies themselves like this. NO one!!! except a real alpha male who is already getting girls, socially proofed through the roof.
OK so now once you have opened...Then you need to
3. Attract- How? by DHV'ng to the whole group which stands for demonstration of higher value. The best way I have found (FIELD TESTED to the max) is by telling stories. I have a few stories at the bottom that I will tell the whole group. Rememeber. Storytelling is an art and must convey that you possess characteristics of an alpha male like.
1.You are pre selected - "my ex who was an exotic dancer...."
2. You are the leader of men. (Read my YOrkdale story at the bottom)
3. I have standards for myself and for women I date. (Read my francesca story)
You may also DHV using cool IVD's like a massage technique, Palm reading, cold reading, dance moves, show her cool massage tips etc. but I reserve these more when I am alone with her in comfort or rapport phase or if she is in a two set with another chick or guy... Also when you are DHV'ing to the group, you must "falsely disqualify" to the target, to disarm the obstacles by letting them know that you can't possibly be there acting as a potential suitor for her, and to get her seeking your validation..Now if someone goes "yeah right or whatever..because your story is canned and they don't believe you" You say "Please get a life" and then continue..this will get that girl to chase you
or If I'm telling a story about how my ex gave me coupons for various sexual favours for Valentines day which she made. True story by the way and one of the girls goes "ewww that is gross". I will say. Whatever....too bad you're not my type and continue with the story.
See always maintain the set
Own the fuckin' set
And when you own the guys the girls will follow one by one
Also when you demonstrate the mentality of "I am here conveying my personality and if you don't like it, go fuck yourself" that is very attractive.
So always maintain your frame guys in set.
Now the purpose of the attract phase is to get the set to reach the:
4. Hook - Yes this is the point where by you have peaked the groups or set's interest so much they do not want you to go. I usually do this with 4-5 killer Stories I have (some real and some made up) and also by IVD's to the group about my knowledge of certain things, facts, geography, places I've been. Also with lone wolves or 2 sets I will hook them by saying "Holy shit your hand...and then go into the palm reading or handstucture routine". They always respond with curiosity and say" What what. tell me". See how they are all NON SEXUAL, I ain't hitting on the girl . Just being an interesting guy to the set, if there are males or other females in there, I have just by having them listen to me, conveyed higher value than the males because I am conrolling their frame , disengaged any fears that I am there to hit on her from the male/females by lowering the self esteem of the target. Remember the real purpose of the neg or value zing is to disqualify yourself "falselY" from appearing like a potential suitor.
NOTE1: Attract phase is only 2-5 minutes. Most guys make the mistake of staying in this phase way too long. They appear like dancing monkeys. Always remember to phase shift guys. So after 2-5 miinutes. You will see interest being generated, then you can test to see if you are in the screening phase by "baiting the girl" so go into the next phase which is.
You can also see if she is attracted by doing certain touch escalation tests and see if she passes (trust test, tention test, sticking out your hand and see if she grabs it)
You can also use verbal baits and see if she will bite. Baits are verbal questions that bait her to provide illusionary input to your screens. Usually if a woman is attracted to you, she will want to jump through your hoops or pass your screens.
Some of the lines I use are:
You are very pretty, but so what, looks is common, it's like winning the lottery in the gene pool, I'm curious about you. What do you have going on for you besides your looks.
If she answers, then I know I am in this phase. If not and she give me a cocky response like "Why do you want to know. or I am not answering that"
You need to then value zing her because you are still in "Attract her" phase and say "Truthfully I was just being polite I really wasn't interested" then stack another story to her peer group.. This will get her chasing you and will create attraction.. Then when you go into screen/accepting her, she will jump through your hoops.
So once she is biting the bait you are in the next phase which is.
5. Screen/Accept or "She needs to attract" phase. So you have dhv'd to her and she gave you IOI, now she needs to attract you.
So you bait her and allow her to DHV to you. You accept with touch or space invading and then release and say "Wait shit. I can't even talk to you now" and do a backturn or look away. She will reinitiate if she is attracted and will start to game you. In fact you need to be switching the screen/chase switch in the attract phase to get her contributing to the sarge and to prevent her circuits from being overkilled by being in reactive zone. You then also do this cycle a few times in the screen phase to make her feel that she is working to win you over and that to make her feel that your IOIs to her have been earned and are legit, not fake. After the 3rd cycle, you finally accept and go into the rapport..comfort and trust stage.where you can state your interest. This phase is signatured with touch escalation, location changing and comfort/rapport building routines.
6. Rapport/Comfort -Involves getting more comfortable with each others touch, closeness, so touch escalation is the key here and comfort building routines.
YOU can then
1. bounce or isolate to another venue
2. or Time bridge to day2.
A few killer routines are:
Evolution phase shift routine to makeout
Grounding your identity to her reality
Role playing
Pair Bonding
Saying to her "I think you've hijacked my brain babe"
etc... Once the comfort building and touch escalation is in progress it will get more intimate, more sexual...until it leads to a
7. Close - A lay, or a timebridge.
NOTE: You will have to deal with LMR often but the more venue changes you make, and the more time you spend with the girl. I believe it is usually like 6-7 hours she will believe that she "got to you emotionally" and you will stick around, not just go in for the kill and leave.
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Let's get something straight, girls judge by looks. If you are NOT good looking, your only recourse is to have a hella tight VERBAL GAME.
Let's get something straight, girls judge by looks. No ifs ands or buts about it, they simply do. They want someone tall, dark, and handsome with a huge cock. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS. They ALSO want someone that can fill an emotional vacuum as well as PROVIDE THEM with an emotional stimulus.
Honestly, I wouldn't want to be a chick because guys judge almost exclusively by ONE CRITERIA. Which is looks. Now girls, judge by TWO CRITERIA (well, actually more, but for the sake of simplicity…) which are looks and YOUR ABILITY TO AFFECT THEIR EMOTIONS. Or, in lay man's terms, your "personality."
In order to exude confidence, fun, cool, and a host of other emotions, you must CONVEY that you have all these personality traits. This can range from peacocking in wild, outlandish, cool clothes showing that you are fun and unconventional to the VERBAL GAME
IF you have VERBAL GAME, then you can convey your personality, show the girl who you are, as well as push all those attraction buttons in a girl.
Some key elements of VERBAL GAME:
PROJECTION - If you cannot PROJECT and be VOCAL above the loud noise, sounding confident and engaging the group, then you are not conveying your personality. They cannot HEAR you and thusly will judge you simply on looks.
STORY TELLING - Girls communicate by story telling. They are emotional beings. Do not recite facts. Do not ask inane questions, but CONVEY YOUR PERSONALITY by telling multiple stories from your life that range from the funny, to the exciting, to the vulnerable. Role playing, future projection, and just being damn funny. Singing. Yes, I said singing.
KINO - Girls affect others (male & female) by touch. They know they can affect a man's emotions and state by touching you. This also applies vice versa. You CAN touch girls without fear. You CAN caress them without fear. You CAN push them around without fear. You CAN kiss them without fear. BECAUSE GIRLS ENJOY KINO AND THEY ENJOY YOUR TOUCH.
SEXUAL STATE - By being in a sexual state, by being WILLING to phase shift into a sexual state and force HER into a sexual state, you are CONVEYING that you are a SEXUAL MAN. You WANT her and SHE wants you. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS.
ENERGY - This is ESSENTIAL for interrupting large sets AND mixed sets. You must be willing to EXUDE and GIVE your energy to others. You must ENJOY the process of partying, sarging, and socializing with total strangers and NOT GIVE A SHIT.
PHYSICAL SPACE - Physical space is AN ILLUSION. You can invade her physical space, get closer to her, and FORCE her to look at you. On the flip side, you can act INDIFFERENT and make her insecure in her ability to attract YOU because you are keeping a certain amount of physical space.
INTERACTION - This is mostly for those who are heavily routine dependent. If you are simply reciting routine after routine, the girl will feel LESS INVESTED in the moment. You must PULL HER IN and interact with her.
FRAME CONTROL - You MUST control the frame, whatever that may be. You can treat her as a CHILD and she MUST accept it. She will be PULLED into YOUR reality and be fully concentrated on YOU. You cannot let HER control the frame or otherwise she will have NO EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH YOU.
QUALIFICATION - You MUST qualify her in order to create and maintain an emotional connection with her. Otherwise you will come off as either an ENTERTAINMENT, DANCING MONKEY or a PLAYER who simply takes her number and leaves, leaving her feeling cold, used, and impersonal. You MUST state at some point what about HER that YOU like. DIRECT GAME depends on this the MOST (ie You are BEAUTIFUL and I'd like to get to KNOW you better).
BODY LANGUAGE - While this is not exclusively VERBAL, the fact is, your body language SUBCOMMUNCIATES to others what YOUR status and value is. If you LOOK like you are uncomfortable in a social setting, your value, coolness, and overall personality GOES DOWN. If you LOOK and ACT like someone COMFORTABLE in his skin, then your value goes up. This can include the way you hold yourself, react to girls touching and talking with you, to dancing.
If you are NOT good looking, your only recourse is to have a hella tight VERBAL GAME. Mysterious, brooding, silent and sexy only works for Naturals who ARE naturally good looking and can get away without any kind of game.
So, to make a long story short, if you are NOT good looking (8 and above), then you MUST convey your personality to a girl in order for HER to find YOU attractive beyond just the physical aspects. You can think of yourself as the most fun, exciting, intellectual, sensitive guy, but if you cannot CONVEY it, if you are some wallflower that sticks to the shadows, then you cannot DEPLOY your verbal game and CREATE the attraction in her. Then you are depending on LUCK and HOPING that she somehow magically SEES those amazing aspects of you based on no observational, supporting data.
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Openers are the first things you should say or do when you first approach women.It's a statement , question or story used to initiate a conversation with a stranger or group of strangers. Openers may be environmental (spontaneous) or canned (pre scripted) and direct (showing romantic or sexual interest in a woman) or indirect(not showing interest) . Below are some that can work for you. The Game by Neil Strauss, SeductionTuition.com
Openers are the first things you should say ir di when you first approach women. It's a statement, question or story used to initiate a conversation with a stranger or group of strangers. Openers may be environmental(spontaneous) or canned(pre-scripted) and direct(showing romantic or sexual interest in a woman) or indirect(not showing interest). Below are some that can work for you. The Game by Neil Strauss, SeductionTuition.com.
Openers For Art Of Attraction
Author: Sean Newman
Here's a list of sample openers (hook questions and optional follow-up stories) that you can use for the Art of Attraction Workshop . The openers all are designed to start a conversation with groups and give you something interesting and fun to talk about at any time. Find one you like and practice using it to talk to groups everywhere you go.
Intructor-field-tested Hook Questions that Go Straight to Banter
Settle this bet for me, ok? If you KNOW you will never get caught, is it cheating?
Guys, quick question. What's hotter: a tattoo, or a piercing?
Do you guys know any good places to dance around here?
Guys. I have a really important question for you. Like, fate of the world stuff. You ready? Bacon? Or ham?
OK, I need help settling this argument. Guys or girls: who kisses better?
Hook Questions with Optional Stories
Hey guys, Brad or Angelina? Or Jen or Angelina?
Optional story:
Check this out. Most women with boyfriends say they'd sleep with brad pitt. But even more said they'd sleep with angelina.
i asked my ex about this, and she's like hell yeah! if i have a boyfriend, why do i want to sleep with another guy. that's like you've got dreyers in the fridge and you get some ben and jerry's. but angelina, that's like champagne, chocolate, and shoe shopping all at once.
You guys are California girls, right?
Optional story:
You notice no one out here has an accent? I love living here but I miss accents. Like when I lived in Boston. Met this girl. Our eyes met and it was like a thunderbolt. We talked and hung out all night. Beautiful. Smart. Funny. Sexy. But… She had the thickest Boston accent evah.
We fell totally in love and it was amazing. And I even got used to the accent.
Except in bed. Nothing kills the mood like hearing "hahdah, hahdah, fastah, fastah… oh my fackin' gawd!"
You guys ever travel someplace that was way cooler than you expected?
Optional story:
I just got back from Russia. And it's amazing. All the guys are rich mobsters, and all the girls are Anna Kornikovas. And man, do they know how to party and drink. Its vodka all day. 2 shots for breakfast. 4 shots for lunch. And a baker's dozen for dinner every night. Plus, it's like each shot is personal. This is your my country. This is to the friendship comrade. This is to our mothers. What you gonna say to that? Fuck your mother?
Plus, every grandmother there can drink you under the table and drive you home.
Hey, settle this argument for me. Would you hook up with someone who's just a friend?
Optional story:
Check this out. My friend Jen is in this dating slump, right? Like 6 weeks. Not happy about it. She's out the other night and runs into this guy she's known forever. And she's like "he looked cute, and he was making me laugh, and it's been a while…" Y'know, just a hookup, no big deal. "But then. Next morning. I hear this knock. I open the door, and there he is."
He's like, "This is really hard to say, cos I really care about you and your feelings." And she's so relieved that he's there to explain it's no big deal, right? Then he says "but I have to tell you this, no matter how hard it is. I… have been in love with you for years, and now we get to start the rest of our lives together…"
OMG, you guys are so mean! I can't believe you're laughing at his pain.
What's better for a bachelorette party, male strippers, or female strippers?
Optional story:
Check this out. My friend is planning a bachelorette party, and she was gonna get the standard big studly stripper dude, like the cop who shows up at the door and tells them to quiet down, and then peels down to his oiled chest and banana hammock. But, yknow, women are way more turned on by naked women than naked men. Like you. I can tell. I'm gonna tell my friend just to get some chicks.
Even though it will cost me the gig.
Hey guys, what was your favorite movie as a kid?
Optional story:
Awesome, check this out. Me and my girl are looking through the stacks and she picks up Dirty Dancing. I'm like, uh, no, "nobody puts baby in the corner!" and pick up Unfaithful. Yeah, that movie. It's hot, right? So she's all like pouting, going "but this was my favorite movie as a little girl," and I'm like "well, little girl, don't you think it's time for a big girl movie?" It's never about the movie, right? You really don't want to just… watch.
And y'know, hot as it is, Swayze just doesn't do it for me.
Guys. Guys! You ever ride a dolphin?
Optional story:
Awesome! High Five for that. Check this. My ex was at sea world and they have this thing where you can ride the dolphins. So she's all stoked tries it. She jumps in, and the dolphin like whooshes her thru the water by pushing her ass with its nose. But when they're done, the dolphins all rubbing against her. And it's got a great big hard on. The trainer had to jump in and like chase it away with a whiffle bat.
Stupid dolphin. That's the last time she falls for that trick.
Sean Newman
Spells Opener
Author: Mystery
"Do you think spells work?" Sometimes this will send the woman off on a long blab, but if the conversation needs to be kept going, the follow-up routine is:
"The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there met a girl in a club last week. He wasn't interested in her sexually, because she wasn't really his type." (Here the woman might say "Sure," in which case you reply "No, really!" and touch her arm or waist.)
"Anyway, she hung out at his house and after she left, he found a metal ring wrapped around a scroll and some feathers under his couch. Well, he took it to a magick store and they said it was an attraction spell. And now, the strange thing is, he can't stop thinking of her. Do you think it's the spell or just psychological?"
A neg is a technique invented by Mystery, a world renown pickup artist. A NEG is never an insult. It is an ambiguous statement used to show disinterest in a strikingly beautiful woman by being inadvertently critical, while at the same time demonstrating a good personality. It is teasing, flirting. NEGs are used to subtly play with a beautiful woman's self-esteem with the intent of actively demonstrating to her or her friends a lack of interest in her. All this is done while covering your tracks with a grudging compliment. Smile when you NEG her. NEGs work amazingly well on 9's and 10's. It doesn't work so well on 7's and 8's and should be generally avoided with them. NEG'ing takes some practice to know when and how much to do it. Everyone makes mistakes and blows sets doing it, but after a while you'll get great at it.
Neg Theory
Author: Mystery
An HB (Hot Babe) is there, surrounded by her friends. She has put on this BITCH act.
Is she REALLY a bitch? Unlikely. All my girlfriends were wonderful human beings. Beautiful people have it easier because they are beautiful and often times have better upbringings because of it.
BUT - she needs to have a standard when all these NOBODY guys approach her. So her values are very honed and understood. When a man walks up and says, "Can I buy you a beer" this WILL annoy her. While the guy thinks he's doing something nice for her, she gets this ALL the time. She is desensitized to this. You are the 8th guy TODAY!
So she is very good at brushing all these guys off. She HAS to be... she isn't going to sleep with ALL of them! So she may say NO, or act annoyed, and then the guy thinks she's a bitch and he walks off pissed and feeling like a failure. And that seems to work. Sometimes when the girl is particularly in a feeling of control (like in a club where she is PREPARED for the barrage of men - it IS after all something that occurs so often that when it is GONE she MISSES it) she will accept the beer and then flake the guy off. Hey, the guys are stupid enough to buy her one; she might as well take it.
When she accepts a beer from you, the girl is saying to you, "I don't know you and I don't care about you. You are just another one of those typical guys and since I don't respect you, I'll take the beer from you before I snub you."
Since an HB is so GOOD at snuffing your approach, SNUFFING THEM is important. You CANNOT INSULT them, because they are used to all the hurt guys INSULTING them ("ahh you are nothing but a bitch!") so this rolls off their back like water off a muskrat's ass.
How do you SNUFF them WITHOUT INSULTING them? Well, let's say she has long nails which are most likely fake. Now why do 10s dress so FINE if they don't want the attention? Sometimes they LOVE the feeling of control. They are in a club with friends and they want to be the leader of the circle (social hierarchy in primates) and so she gets all the attention. The guys come and buy drinks for them and she gets off on knocking the guys down. It's all in a days play. Ok, so she is wearing fake nails to look even BETTER! Most guys will say, "Wow you are so beautiful!" BORING, typical and in her mind by now, TRUE. Imagine now, a guy comes along and says "Nice nails. Are they real?" She will have to concede, "No, acrylic." And he says (like he didn't notice it was a put down), "Oh. (Pause) well I guess they still LOOK good." Then he turns his back to her.
What does this do to her? Well, he didn't treat her like shit and INSULT her. He complimented her, but the result was to target her insecurity. She thinks, "I'M HOT I'M BEAUTIFUL" - (especially in her current emotional state of control) - "but I didn't win this guy over. I'M SO GOOD at this. I'll just fix that little smear on my image that he has of me."
Then you continue to show disinterest in her looks as you give her a neutral topic like the Elvis script. During this time, her intention is to get you to become like all the other guys so she can feel in control and snuff you.
Then you give her another NEG HIT like this: "Is that a hair piece? Well, its neat... what do you call this hairstyle? The waffle? :)" Smile and look at her to show her you are sincerely being funny and not insulting. You are pleasant but disinterested in her beauty.
This will intrigue her because she KNOWS guys. And this isn't normal. You must have really high taste, or be used to girls, or be married or something. These questions make her CURIOUS. So this keeps happening and is known as FLIRTING. She gives you little Negs and these tests are qualifiers. You pass them by Negging her back. After all, you aren't like the others showing interest. But...why?
To get control again, she says, "Will you buy me a drink?" Notice how she is trying to get you now! BUT, she only wants to sucker you in enough so she can SNUFF you. That is all she is about - this strategy is all she knows and it's not working for you so she is trying to do damage control on the situation. But at the same time she doesn't quite understand WHY you don't think she's "all that." After all, her nails ARE fake.
You say, "Ahhh, that's so funny ... your nose wiggles when you speak......" - (pointing and being cute) - "look there it goes again ... its so... quaint ... hheeeee look." She'll say, "Ahhh, stoppp!" :) *blush*. Now she is self-conscious and having her in this state is where you want her. You have, with 3 negs, successfully created INTEREST (curiosity) and removed her from her pedestal (removed her bitch shield.) You were humorous, you had a smile, you dress well, you are confident and everything she would want in a man.
You didn't take her shit. OH...and when she asked you for a beer, you said, "No. I don't buy girls drinks. But you can buy ME one." You are qualifying HER now. If she buys you a beer, this is symbolic of her RESPECT for you.
If not, you say, "Pleasure meeting you" [NOT sarcastically] and turn your back to her again. DON'T walk away, just turn your back. You are negging her again just when she thought she was negging YOU. That is teasing each other. That is the first step to flirting. This is all textbook psychology.
A NEG is a qualifier. The girl is FAILING to meet your high expectations. It's not an insult, just a judgment call on your part. The better looking the girl, the more aggressive you must be with using negs. A 10 can get 3 negs up front, while an 8 gets only 1 or 2 over a longer time. You CAN go overboard if they think you are BETTER than them. You can drop the self-esteem right from under them (just like most 10s do to guys) and this isn't good. You have to get as close to the breaking point as you can without crossing the line. Once you have gotten her RIGHT THERE, you can start appreciating things about her (NEVER LOOKS.)
There is a mutual RESPECT now. Something most guys never get from the girl. This is how you remove a bitch shield. 3 negs ought to do it within 2 or 3 minutes of neutral chat. Once it is down, you can, from a place of mutual respect, seduce her.
Mystery , Lovedrop and Neil Strauss Reveals Secrets of Mystery Method:
Here are over 30 Negs for you to enjoy. Mav, a master-pickup artist, compiled this list of negs. Mystery is the creater of most of these Negs.
Your hair looks shiny, is it a wig? Oh well it looks nice anyway
That's lovely long hair – are they extensions?
I think your hair would look better up/down
Nice nails – are they acrylic. Oh, well they look good anyway.
Awww, how cute, your nose wiggles when you laugh – look there it goes again !!!
Is that your natural hair colour <yes> well its not bad <no> So you changed it to that?
I like your look, beauty is common but you seem like you have character.
You have U shaped teeth.
Well at least you have a nice body
You are nearly as tall as me. I like tall girls. Are those heels 3 or 4 inches ?
You have an "interesting" figure
Did you drink too much last night!
I think I like your left eye best
Your eyeliner has run a bit….go to wipe it off for her
Eww your palms are sweaty
You have some lint on your shirt, here let me get it off
I think I saw you wearing that outfit a few weeks ago
I like that skirt, they are very popular these days
I like that skirt, Ive seen another girl wearing it tonight as well. Is it from topshop?
Those shoes look really comfortable/uncomfortable
Is she always like this
How do you guys hang with this girl
Geez, you must have driven your parents crazy
Solipsistic ego queen (solipsistic is the view that the self is the only reality)
Hello, Im talking, geez
Um, its too early in our relationship for you to be (doing whatever she was doing)
Where is your off button
You look like trouble
You're bad girls
Were you a dork at school or something
Your kinda cute, like my little sister
Did you parents not give you enough attention as a child ?
How short are you
NEG her if:
She has a bitch shield
She is incredibly hot
Her interest level is dropping off
These are all good NEGS if she starts testing you:
I bet you have a real cute side somewhere. You just don't show it..
When she responds to something, say, "Oh, so you're one of THOSE...."
(Afterwards, you can say "now I see what I'm dealing with.") If she resists this neg, use the NL9 line: "Oh, so then you are one of those people who don't like to be categorized."
"Are those nails real? No. Well they still look good, I guess."
"Is that your real hair? It looks neat, it's like a waffle."
"Weren't you wearing that dress the last time you were here?" (if she answers no, then: oh, must've been some other girl them. Looks better on you though!)
"Oh … sick … you just spit on me!"
"You blink a lot"
"Look … your nose wiggles when you talk … that's really cute!"
"I don't think we should get to know each other." "Why?" "You are just too nice of a girl for me."
"Do you find that your bitchy behavior makes people like you more?"
These are good negs that are safer to use on 8's. They are meant to tease her a little.
I think I loved you *pause* before you turned out to be such a freak. (smile)
I like you better when your silent!(smile)
For such a pretty girl you sure are mentally disoriented!
Or if she is talking about something I pretend I'm searching for something on her body. Then if she goes : "what? " I say : where is your button so I can shut you off.. you are silly (with a smile).
Don't you think we are going to get married young lady if you keep on being so silly.
Dumb NEGS:
When I see her I go like "oh no! not her again" (and pretend I don't want to see her) (Everyone does this one, avoid it. I'm just mentioning it so you don't do it)
BIG NEGS: (Use in case of emergency only):
Well, at least you're lucky enough to have a good body.
No really, I've seen uglier girls.
So are you a bitch to everybody, or just people cooler than you?
So are you drunk or just plastered?
Remember: the purpose of a neg is not to insult. It is to show disinterest by being inadvertently critical, while at the same time demonstrating a good personality. It is teasing, flirting.
These are not NEGs:
Mad Dash
One of the biggest pieces - if not the biggest piece - to consistently attracting beautiful women is to become a MASTER OF CONVERSATION AND STORYTELLING. To really make conversation happen. To show who you are through your own unique brand of humor and through the stories you tell.
That's right. It's your ability to make conversation and be interesting and entertaining in any social situation that really sparks a woman's interest and gives you the power to attract her and connect with her.
But what's the secret to mastering the art of making conversation with attractive women?
The single most important thing a guy needs to have, to consistently flow with conversation in any situation with beautiful women, is a ready-to-go arsenal of conversation openers, great stories, routines and games.
That's right. Having conversation starters, stories, games and other material ready to go - before you need it - is THE KEY to making conversation with women. All the guys I know - and we're talking about the best of the best with women here - have a HUGE assortment of great material that they use over and over again. They have tested, refined, tried-and-true material and routines that they KNOW gets the response they want in any situation they might find themselves in.
Below is some Free Advice from some of the best Conversationalists and Storytellers in the world. Now you too can learn how to become a better storyteller and more successful person behind the bar and in life…
When I was younger and perhaps a tad more arrogant, I had a saying:
"Modesty is for those of modest capabilities." I knew I was elite, and I didn't fail to let anyone know.
The only problem is that I came across as a jerk. Outright bragging is no good. But does that mean we should swing the other way on the spectrum to quiet and passive modesty?
People can have a hard time finding things to talk about with girls. They mumble about boring stuff like the weather and television. And all the while they have something unique and interesting that they should be sharing with the world. Everyone has something. But they don't want to come across as bragging. Stories offer an opportunity to do that.
Here's some tips to get you going:
*Build a relationship when you tell a story: Be smooth. Relax, and slowly offer up more details. Until you have a reputation (like Chris Rock or George Carlin) it's the frame and relationship you have that makes a story funny.
One of my friends owns his own business, and he's constantly having crazy adventures. I love hearing his stories because they're so well told. Since he and I already have a great relationship, he'll just lay out the details. But when someone he doesn't know well is with us, he'll build slowly and it's magical to behold.
*Catch their attention early: A "deadpan" or other edgy part of a story is a great way to do this, especially if there's some boring details in the buildup. Think of the movie Fight Club: It starts with Edward Norton with a gun in his mouth, and then goes into Norton traveling around with insomnia. If it just started with the insomnia, it would have been too boring to engage a lot of people.
I'll be sitting with my entrepreneur friend, and he'll deadpan, "My warehouse burnt down" (he's a light-hearted guy, and means for it to be funny; that's probably part of how he survives his volatile business). After deadpanning that, the audience is really engaged and he can go back and do some boring details about the warehouse before getting to the punchline.
*Don't be in a hurry to finish your story: Start on it, and if it branches somewhere else, great! The best storytellers are interesting to listen to every time they tell the same story, because there's always different elements and tangents. The punch line isn't the goal: The whole experience is what makes an awesome story.
My buddy is a master storyteller, and the objective is never the punchline. Oftentimes, he'll get off on a tangent about some Christmas party and it's still a great story. This also builds anticipation and intrigue, since people will come back and ask him later, "Hey, so what happened with that warehouse?"
*Use vivid, descriptive language (aka, "Show, don't tell"): If you're talking about your ex-girlfriend, replace "She was really beautiful" with "She was 6'2, with curves to die for..." while drawing an hourglass in the air with your hands. "...and brunette hair falling halfway down her back. Sparkling eyes that were totally alive." That paints a picture in the audience's mind and connects them to your ex-girlfriend more.
*Verbalize lower value immediately following any bragging-like comments: Here's the secret on how to convey good things about you. Whenever you say something that sounds like you might be bragging, immediately disclaim that you're not really all that. A very effective way is to just throw in, "I guess that sounds like I was really rolling or something, but I actually just got really lucky" at the end of any bragging like stuff.
*Getting the laugh: Look at them expectantly. Here's the secret to wrapping up your story. After you say your punchline, smile and stare at the person expectantly, like you expect them to laugh. Don't try to explain your story, just stare at them like you expect them to laugh because it's funny. If you can master this look, people will laugh after a second or two, regardless of if they got the joke or not.
Fun stuff huh? Try it out, and watch your storytelling grow.
If you'd like to hear great storytelling in action, you've got to hear Master the Vibe: secret audio of pickups captured by top pickup artists. You'll hear us perform this stuff, then explain it so that you can hear exactly how it works. Check it out at here.
Peace and Love,
Sebastian Drake aka Sebastian Drake
Attraction Routines are what you should say or do in order to gain or build attraction in someone you are interested in. Like a Pebble in a lake... attraction routines start at a single spot yet they build like the ripples in a lake. They are used to grow fun, excitement and interest in your game.
How To Create Sexual Tension
Author: Carlos Xuma
One thing that is critical for developing attraction with a woman that will lead to your eventual seduction success is learning how to build and nurture the sexual tension between you.
Remember that when you first begin to interact with a woman, unless she already has a strong initial attraction for you - sometimes known as "chemistry", you are in a neutral zone with her. This is a place where she has yet to make up her mind as to whether you are interesting to her or not.
Now, you can choose to sift through dozens and dozens of women looking for the few that you have that instant "chemistry" with, but I find it much more practical to stimulate the woman's attraction so that she has that chemistry right away, and then I can choose whether or not to act on my own attraction. It's like getting a pre-approved loan and knowing you COULD go out and buy that new Porsche, but it's YOUR choice.
This, guys, is what seduction is all about. Having your own choice as to whether a woman interests YOU or not, not the other way around.
Back to the Neutral Zone (and I'm not talking about that Star Trek term, either...)
In order to get that tension going - a necessary tension - you need to zap her out of her neutral funk and get her into feeling EXCITEMENT. There are many ways to do this:
1. Teasing - You find little areas of insecurity, and you play with them a little. This isn't to belittle her or make her feel bad about herself, but to demonstrate your own confidence and security by showing that you're aware of your own dominance as a man, and that you do not fear her. Teasing also lowers her guard a little so that you can reach that "real" part of her personality that she is cloaking with defensive behavior. (Sometimes called "tease to please")
2. Humor - Humor takes the edge off your teasing (sometimes called cocky/funny). Women are dying to laugh. There are so many guys out there that have ZERO humor to them. They take everything too seriously, including women, which - honestly - creeps them out. Compare: A man with humor enjoys life, is relaxed enough to find the fun in everything, and shows that he has a sense of inner calm. A man without humor is not relaxed, takes things way too seriously, and tends to smother and convey insecurity with his intense behavior.
3. Contradiction - An independent, secure guy can express his own opinion (and he MUST). You should make it a point to contradict her opinion from time to time to demonstrate that you do not need her approval. He doesn't do it to prove her wrong, but to state his own belief in clear terms. And this includes calling her on her bratty behavior, as well as taking control when the situation demands it. This may be the toughest behavior for most "nice guys" to adopt. And it will also sound radically contrary to what you've been brought up to believe by the media and your mom.
4. Detachment - Again, an independent, secure man does not NEED a woman (or other people, for that matter) for his approval. He can stand alone and separate of her opinion, and it doesn't ruffle his feathers if she doesn't like something he did or said. This means the ability to walk away, turn away, and otherwise disengage from a woman so that she understands he is not there to kiss her ass. Another way to show this is to allow for long pauses between contacts with a woman. Don't email her right back. Don't call her right back. A few days could easily pass for a guy who is overwhelmed with women, so why shouldn't it be that way for you right now? Give her a chance to miss you. (Instead of wondering why you're so desperate that you leave five messages every day.)
These are just some of the ways you can heighten the level of sexual tension between you and a woman.
Now, there are some guys out there that are afraid of raising this tension. I suspect this is partly because this kind of tension feels uncomfortable to them. It can often border on making her angry which is something that most guys are afraid to do. After all, you want her to LIKE you, right? How will making her potentially DISlike you help?
Well, it's really about a push-pull effect. The idea is to induce a gentle tug-of-war with her that will get things started. When she thinks you're going to pull, you give her slack, which throws her off balance. And that's when you pull her back in. It's just like fishing: Give her a little "line," and see if she bites. When she does, you pull in a little. (Too much too quick and you yank the hook right back out.) Then you give her a little slack so she thinks she's free, and the hook digs in a little more. Then you give it a little tug to pull her back in.
Push-pull. Reel her in, let her go.
The tension you are elevating has only one kind of outlet - sexual attraction. Sometimes it will even start out as anger and then morph into passion and lust. (Remember the opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy.)
You're better off with a woman that is pissed at you than one that has no feelings for you. Your knee-jerk reaction to her anger is to smooth out the problem, afraid that you've somehow lost her. When you don't NEED, you can't LOSE.
Again, passion very often starts out with a woman APPEARING to hate the man at first.
(Review how this happens in the first Indiana Jones movie, as well as the movie "The Breakfast Club," and especially the police station scene in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off." Yes, they are movies, but they accurately depict how this phenomenon works. And if you'll watch it closely, it may seem counter to what you might think, but at a gut level - it MAKES SENSE and feels right. This sort of thing happens all the time.)
Don't be afraid of that tension, guys. Feed off it and escalate it. This will make the difference between the guy that walks away with the sweet taste of woman on his lips... or the bland and disappointing taste of her "friendship."
Carlos Xuma
Baiting Technique
Author: IN10SE
Ok guys, I'm going to GIVE AWAY one of my GOLD techniques so pay attention...and to the guys that don't read this... well their loss and your gain! :)
One of the things that I do early on is to give a woman a sense that there is "something more".
I may start off as being overly confident and tease her just like a good PUA would - but then I'll let her "discover" that I keep a journal... or drop a line about some random act of kindness that I just did... or mention something that I did for my mom recently ("I took my mom out for dinner last Valentines day")... let her get a hint of a "softer" side that I'm trying to hide.
And I just leave it at that... a one sentence hint about what I did or do, and then move on to the next topic as if I don't really want to talk about it.
If they DON'T ask about it, you can bet they're THINKING about it and will bring it up later. -often times after sleeping with you when you ask them "So what were some of the things about me that first attracted you?".
If they DO ask about it - I may mention a little more and then say, "It's not really a big deal... it's just me. I don't usually tell people about it because guys aren't supposed to "do" those kinds of things." Then they'll say things like, "Well REAL guys do!" And then she begins to "discover" what a great guy you are... and humble too because you don't talk about it much. And they'll LOVE you for it.
I call this technique of mine "Baiting". Because it's what you offer to hook them in.
Check out my Forbidden Hypnosis Seduction course.
Ok guys, I'm going to GIVE AWAY one of my GOLD techniques so pay attention...and to the guys that don't read this... well their loss and your gain! :)
One of the things that I do early on is to give a woman a sense that there is "something more".
I may start off as being overly confident and tease her just like a good PUA would - but then I'll let her "discover" that I keep a journal... or drop a line about some random act of kindness that I just did... or mention something that I did for my mom recently ("I took my mom out for dinner last Valentines day")... let her get a hint of a "softer" side that I'm trying to hide.
And I just leave it at that... a one sentence hint about what I did or do, and then move on to the next topic as if I don't really want to talk about it.
If they DON'T ask about it, you can bet they're THINKING about it and will bring it up later. -often times after sleeping with you when you ask them "So what were some of the things about me that first attracted you?".
If they DO ask about it - I may mention a little more and then say, "It's not really a big deal... it's just me. I don't usually tell people about it because guys aren't supposed to "do" those kinds of things." Then they'll say things like, "Well REAL guys do!" And then she begins to "discover" what a great guy you are... and humble too because you don't talk about it much. And they'll LOVE you for it.
I call this technique of mine "Baiting". Because it's what you offer to hook them in.
Check out my Forbidden Hypnosis Seduction course.
Active Disinterest
Author: Tyler Durden
Active Disinterest does not mean Asexual
I had a few thoughts this week, from watching some guys I was working with.
Some guys (I can't remember who) re-labelled the term Active Disinterest as "Tentative Interest". I think this came from Swinggcat, I'm not sure. To me this is all the same thing, but for some guys this distinction could be useful because they are learning only from text so it's important for the terminology to be as accurate as possible. Since they aren't seeing direct examples, nothing can be taken for granted I suppose.
A few pointers on this:
1- I always tell guys to focus on having fun and being social rather than appearing to be trying too hard to "pickup" (so as not to be perceived and treated as the next cheesy sexually needy guy of the night). But that said, I assume that guys are coming across like MEN here, and there is a sexual vibe between them and the girls already. Many guys I've seen though will take this too far, which is understandable, but IMO it's a mistake. I personally will pull a lot of stripper type stuff, like coquettish "You can't have me" looks. But in doing so, the fact that you're subcommunicating "you can't have me" *assumes* that the vibe between you is sexual. Otherwise, the idea of her not HAVING YOU wouldn't come up at all.. See? : )
Direct examples of ways to do so include quickly turning and facing the hot girl directly, moving a bit closer to her, and shooting a quick triangular gaze from hard eye contact down to her lips, then looking back up to her eyes and making a playful smile and backing away from her a bit to turn to her friends. Watch the girls go insane at this. You could then shoot her a playful nod like "Not gonna happen". Then engage the friends a bit, even though the hot girl knows there's something between you, and watch her work to get your attention by trying to cut in. Then when she pulls her typical "I can get what I want" girl jumping in front of everyone stuff to get your validation, say "Hey! Wait your turn. How do you guys roll with this girl?!", and then give her another VERY sexual playful look, then back off again. Even shoot her a touch on the shoulder and raise your eyebrows, and back off again. Often she'll throw herself up in your face at this point, and from there you can work her directly because she's chosen you. With group theory, and ignoring the target, that doesn't always mean *full* ignorance. It just means not making the friends socially uncomfortable, so that you can benefit from the girl thinking "Wow, my friends love this guy", which can only help you. It doesn't mean get pre-occupied and distracted from the goal, though, by being focused on the wrong things. Otherwise you'll get cases like the hot girls walking off so their UG friend can have a chance with you, which some newbies have reported.
Again, much apologies to the guys to whom this is a blatantly obvious truism, but after some recent posts cropping up, I suppose that it needed clarification.
Point is, once the girl has chosen you, you can get her comfortable (as posted in T/T recently) and sit her down and WORK.
For me, it is more efficient to bait the girl into chasing me within 1-2 minutes, then going in and having her screening me and working against the current. Because I have my bodylanguage and confidence down fully, I am not concerned about being sexually needy with my openers, and I know that the girls will take care of this for me 90% of the time without me having to verbally prompt them (since my bodylanguage and vibe will do this for me).
2- When opening groups of guys, you can either work the guy and ignore the girl, work the guy until he's committed to not having a prob with you being there and then move to the girl (this should take only seconds to 1 minute), or blowing the guy out completely (this last one is easily done when you are 'alpha', because the girls give you so much attention so quickly, that the guys just give up and walk away with their tail between their legs). I use all three, by using common sense.
I've seen some posts lately about what is better, going to the target or engaging the whole group. The answer is to use your brain and common sense. Do what is natural and the path of least resistance in the particular situation.
The only rule of pickup is to be clearly cooler than the girl (I recall David D calling this "The Prime Directive: Never communicate lower social value"). That being the case, take the path of least social resistance, based on what you can tell will obviously work. Many of the rules of pickup as seen on ASF are generalities and ideas that are intended to make things run more smoothly, but always need to be moderated by common sense.
My personal most common approach on guy/girl mixed sets is to engage the group, but the second the guy gives tacit consent to me being there, I blow him out on the spot and engage the girl directly. This takes only seconds. Typically I prefer for him to stay there, because I can eclipse him so strongly that him sitting there watching me only increases my status. This is like striking out like a tiger or something. Like seriously, you go in and come across way cooler than the guy within seconds, and the instant that he obviously is lower than you he is tooled and you cut into the girl and go for it. Still, if I see the girl is going crazy getting all wet by me ignoring her, I'll keep it up. Some girls are just like that, and if I see it I calibrate by playing it out. Or the dude may be just a cool guy, in which case I'll hang with him and I know he'll hook me up (which has happened to me many times). Either way, when Mystery posts about engaging the group, he is not advising the kind of Social Robot behaviours that Style recently posted about. Have I mentioned common sense? : )
3- "Cutting in". This term is something I yell at my wings when I see them f*cking up and not cutting into the girl they want. You'll hear me yell "CUT IN!"
On average, I need only engage the group between 30 seconds to 3 minutes before I have the girl I want chasing me. Mystery is the same. He's usually in the corner with his girl in about 3-5 minutes, and making out with her in about 6-15. I differ slightly in that I prefer to extract the girl from the club and makeout at the next venue, which I do within about 20 minutes, although admittedly I'll do fast makeouts on workshop just to show off even though I don't always think its the best path at that time.
This is where many guys go wrong with the active disinterest. I want the girl close to me ASAP (within 6 inches of my face). The few ways I do this would include:
A-CUTTING IN: To cut in means to move closer to the girl, without being jumpy or nervous or getting too much in her face. It's like how you would walk up to and pick up a cat without making it run off. I do so by turning my face sideways and looking distracted for about half a second, and then closing in. Or turning my bodylanguage, or doing it on high points when she's giggly because she's suggestible at that point and if she's giggly she won't object to escalation because she's not thinking logically. Because I don't shoot into her face too abruptly, she doesn't get uncomfortable. This is done with bodylanguage. Very easy. Most guys make mistakes here because they infringe on personal space too quickly, the girls lock up. Also, because they don't look confident, it looks premeditated and too outcome dependent, which makes the girls feel uncomfortable like "What's he trying to pull?" instead of "This fun alpha guy does whatever the f*ck he wants and I don't question it because he's congruent."
Typically, I will have the girl engaged with my palms up and her hands on mine, so I can do IOI tests regularly to see where she's at. The second she's ready to be pulled, I examine the social situation and make it happen or bridge and then venue change, continue to solidify the bridge, or move to the next set. Oftentimes I am perched on a bar stool with my legs open and her leaning in between them. This is the IDEAL PUA position, and is very important. If you read Herbals latest LR in Field Reports, you'll see him talking about Mystery in this position, which is something I adopted from him and I've found very lethal. It's also great on so many levels, because you can also put her hands on your knees, and lean back to see if she keeps them there, etc., etc.
B-Use a routine: Another quick way is to run the trust test routine or something (like show her something on herself), to make her have to come up to you in order for you to demonstrate whatever it is you're doing. Again, quick and easy.
C-Bait: The other way is something that you don't do, but that just happens. That's that oftentimes the girl will see her friends liking you, and because of this she'll practically start molesting you. This is very common. The other night Twentysix is working a group, and the hottest girl attacks him and pulls him home and f*cks him within 45 minutes. Surprisingly not uncommon, although the latter case is an obvious case of fool's mate, even though the 2 dash 6 is still happily dating her now.
D-Split the set with my wing: Here you just have a wing come in and chat the girls but ignore your girl, and you just move your bodylanguage sideways and engage her in a conversation, so you can work easily here.
Notice here that regardless of how it goes down, I'm face to face with the girl within seconds to a few minutes (usually seconds to one minute). This is not a case where I'm forced to engage the set for long. It's simple social common sense to work social gatherings and to take the path of least resistance. You need not do so, its just often easier and more consistent if you do. Yes, girls are picked up without group theory or any knowledge of ASF, so the aforementioned remarks are obvious truisms. The point is ease and consistency.
The same goes for not facing the girls when you roll in. I've seen guys who have read old posts of mine where I've suggested to enter the set initially sideways. This is the path of least resistance, and there is definitely no harm done in doing so, but oftentimes it can help to make it open more smoothly. That said, it is important not to forget the part from that same post about "The second she earns it, turn and face her". Her giving you her attention (Style calls this the "Hook Point") will usually happen within 1-15 seconds, and at that point you should be engaging them completely, and running your game on them. If it takes longer, wait. But that's an error at that point, and you're in damage control (still, I've pulled many sets that opened awkwardly).
Get the girl engaged ASAP. Active Disinterest does not mean that you are A-Sexual. Use active disinterest and engage the group when common sense tells you that it is the path of least resistance. If her interest level is at a point where you need not do so, then don't. Mystery himself has done this as long as I've known him, and guys need not be concerned about losing sets by doing so. If you detect that the friends WILL interfere, you can also re-engage them easily if you feel that that is the best move.
Anyway, hopefully this had some useful distinctions to some of you guys. To me this seems very obvious, but after browsing some recent posts and seeing some guys in the field who had no previous real life interactions with PUAs, I felt that it was something may have been in need of clarification.
I also recommend that guys go out and experiment with both extremely direct sexual approaches, and group theory / AD approaches. This is the only way to gain calibration skills -> experimentation
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Mini Cold Reads
Author: Tyler Durden
WhiteDragonPUA (Eddy) and I always joke that shit like the CUBE, handwriting analysis, strawberry-fields, and palmreading, is CRACK for chicks.
We call it "CHICK-CRACK".
They HAVE TO KNOW what stupid shit you can tell them about themselves, based on something ARBITRARY. I know Eddy has used this to bait chicks into isolation on MANY occassions, extracting all sorts of things from them in exchange for whatever fabricated information he's willing to spew at them.
So what is the reasoning behind this???
QUICK REVIEW (this stuff is to the best of my recollection, and its been a long time since I read 'The Sexual Key'.. this is the main USEFUL part of it):
As explained in "The Sexual Key", men like LINEAR progress, women like INTERNAL progress.
Goal -> Goal -> Accomplishment
"I got the scholarship." - "I don't have to work this summer." - "I have more time to pick up chicks."
THE PAYOFF IS THE RESULT ("more time" in this case)
/--->----goal---->--------- V
^ \ |
| | |
^ accomplishment------/ V
| |
"I got the scholarship." - "That validated my choices." - "That showed me that I truly do have academic potential." - "That made me feel incredible because it showed me more about myself."
THE PAYOFF IS THE EMOTION, THAT RESULTED FROM A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF HERSELF, AND DISCOVERING HER *UNKNOWN/HIDDEN POTENTIALS*. (in this case, her academic abilities)
How to encorporate this into a more high-impact, or possibly a GROUP SET???
MINI-COLD-READS, cocky-playful, peppered into your SET.
-"you're bad"
-"oooohhhh noooo.. you guys are *trouble*"
-"you guys are the nice ones.. I can only hang with you.."
-(for when she answers that she is NOT adventurous, during Swingcat qualifying)
"yeah.. you're more quiet.. like Velma from Scoobie Doo.. you're smart,.. and
you *solve mysteries*"
-"I don't know about you.. I have a x-feeling about you.."
-"there's something suspicious going on here... I'm not sure what, but I can
just feel it"
-"you guys are *fiesty*.. like little powerpuff girls"
-"you are *crazzzzzy*"
-"I can't trust you guys"
-"ok, I can trust you now.. you guys are *IN*.. you're trustworthy"
-"you're my new bestfriend" (while caveman-ing her.. making the link from her letting you grab her, to her being your new best friend.. it makes NO SENSE whatsoever, but makes PERFECT sense to HER)
-"that-is-*awesome*.. you're gonna be my NEW GIRLFRIEND" (after something ARBITRARY, like a line in her palm, or showing you a cool tatoo or something equally stupid, but is somehow DERIVED from something she showed you...)
-"you guys are like crime-fighters"
-"you guys are total bad-girls"
-"you're the leader"
-"you guys are A-Crowd material" (after she says something cocky to you)
-"dude, these girls are obviously VERY adventurous"
B) X-characteristic = X-related-quality
C) you are carrying a gun and have 100,000$ cash in a briefcase = you are
probably a bad person"
D) "This guy's got a gun and a briefcase.. he's probably bad"
B) X-characteristic = Y-unrelated-quality
C) you are stupid girls sitting in a club looking around with a stupid look on
your face (that I can SAY I think looks 'bad', even though it doesn't really
look like ANYTHING) = you are BADGIRLS
D) "these girls have a fiesty look in their eyes.. they are BADGIRLS"
Ask an arbitrary question. "Do girls think that David Bowie is hot?", "Do you think I would look good if I died my hair ALL BLONDE?", "Do you think that spells work?", etc etc etc
REGARDLESS of her answer, PLAYFULLY-MISINTERPRET this as evidence that she is a "bad-girl".
-"ooooohhhh nooooo... ooooohhh noooo.. you just like David Bowie because he's total GLAM.. it's always BADGIRLS that like that.. you're bad, FOR SURE.."
-"oooh nooo.. my friend with BLONDE HAIR??? oh no, dude DO NOT listen to this girl, SHE-IS-BAD... look at the smile on her face.. dude, she is FIESTY.. do
NOT listen to this girl.. she has bad-girl written ALL OVER HER.."
-"spells? spells? oh no dude, we can't talk to this girl.. she's bad.. she-is-BAD.. look at the knowing grin on her.. she knows her stuff... I don't even KNOW what this girl could be up to.."
SAME THING when you have NOTHING to go on.. Just pick an ARBITRARY quality on
her.. Her clothes, her smile, her aloofness, WHATEVER..
-"dude, LOOK at this girl.. LOOOOOOK.. see it in her eyes??? She is BAD.."
-"oh man, LOOK at the necklace on her.. oh man, this girl is FIESTY.. she is PLAYFUL.. she is ADVENTUROUS.. I *KNOW* girls like this.."
-Choose your target. If you call her "FIESTY", then try saying it to her FRIENDS.. "This one is FIESTY, isn't she???" This disarms the friends, similarly to Mystery's technique of OPENING off of the ugliest person in the peer group. You are ADDRESSING the group, and you are NOT hitting on the friend in the "normal" way.
People may recall that I took an HB8.5 right off her DATE, using this technique. ("is she always tricky like this?? does she always do this?? she is FIESTY isn't she?", to the GUY she was on a date with.. he was DISARMED, and she was AROUSED.. a combo that works for you in MULTIPLE ways, simultaneously)
-Play the mini-cold-reads OFF OF eachother. "she IS bad.. you guys are the NICE ones (to the obstacles)... I can only hang with you guys.. you guys are safe.. this girl is BAD (to the target).."
This gets the little LSE obstacles thinking that you're nice, and DISARMS what you're doing to their friend (your target).
Want to see stupid shit like this IN ACTION?? Check out a stupid soap-opera, like "Passions" or "Days of our Lives".
You'll notice that its *saturated* in STUPID SHIT, like:
-"Billy got trapped in the snowstorm, and now he can never find his true love with Lucette.. could the snowstorm really interfere with them finding the potential of their true love?!?!?!"
-"Patricia got a fake palm-reading because Janet hired a fake to trick her into thinking that Bo is her true love, and not Ethan.. Will Patricia ever really find true happiness?"
-"Melissa hired a street-thug to SWITCH the paternity tests, so that she could be with Jake, even though its really not his son.. Now Jake will have to be with HER, and Crystal will never fulfill the love that she had with Jake, all because of this terrible trickery!"
-"Allen slipped DRUGS into Alicia's drink, WITHOUT HER KNOWING.. now she's a drug-addict, and a prostitute.. a total BADGIRL.. and its not her fault!"
Shit where X = Y, and it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, except through LEAPS of logic. There has to be SOME logic to it, but since its CHICK-LOGIC, there is no actual SOUNDNESS required.
You can generate this CRACK FOR CHICKS in the field, by making ILLOGICAL conclusions, that some particular quality leads to some EXCITING characteristic about them, that they weren't aware of, but maybe had fantasized at some point that they had.
Just pepper it in there, and watch as they CAN'T stop talking to you.
Then, use MYSTERY METHOD to EXPLOIT the social-proof, throw negs, and isolate.
Or just use it to suck a lonewolf into a convo, during a street sarge. It's useful in many areas.
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Conveying Attraction Assets
Author: Swinggcat
The Right Way To Brag To Women
Fact: Sporting a fat bank account, becoming a Rhodes scholar, speaking five languages fluently, and having traveled the world three times over again are all attraction assets that CAN dramatically boost your success with women if used in the right way.
Here's why…
The more attraction assets you reveal to a woman in the right way, the higher your PRIZABILITY – the degree to which she sees you as a PRIZE she's compelled to win over.
Typically, as your PRIZABILITY with a woman increases, so does the attraction she feels toward you.
"But, Swinggcat, I don't have any attraction assets," you might be worrying.
Everyone possesses attraction assets. Maybe they don't know it yet. Do you know a stupid magic trick you stole from a kindergartener when you were in the first grade? Can you wiggle your ears or curl your tongue?
My point…
You Can Turn Anything Into An Attraction Asset, As Long As You Present It To Women In The Right Way!
Have you ever noticed how much time most women put into wrapping a present? They've got to find the perfect paper, the right ribbons and bows, and the ideal card. How the present is presented is more important, for many women, than the present itself.
The same holds true for conveying attraction assets.
In a minute I'm going to reveal the right way to convey an attraction asset.
But first…
I want to tell you a story. Inside this story you'll discover a dangerous mistake most men are guilty of yet oblivious to...
A few weeks ago I was talking to a friend of mine. The conversation started off friendly yet ended up turning into a proverbial Quaalude. If conversations had a taste or smell, this one would have reeked of foot and ass.
He started overtly bragging to me about all of the people he knew, money he had… and so on.
After twenty minutes of him boasting galore, I was bored out of my mind. I felt like he was trying to get a job from me, presenting his résumé the best he could.
I was not impressed.
Am I jaded?
No – because no matter how spine-tingling his accomplishments were, I'd be yawning with boredom.
In fact… It wasn't anything he said in particular that turned me off.
What irked me was the way he said it. How he bragged made him look desperate for approval from me.
His Need For Validation Made Him Look Like A Hungry Coyote Who Hadn't Eaten In Weeks!
What is the lesson to be learned?
Bragging in a way that conveys a need for approval and validation turns women off – especially those who are educated, intelligent, and experienced.
You could have the most impressive résumé in the world, but if you brag in a way that conveys your need for validation and approval, your attraction assets will mutate into attraction liabilities.
Here's why…
When you seek a woman's validation and approval, the Meta-Frame or the underlying meaning of your interaction with her gets recontextualized as her being the PRIZE, not you. This is dangerous because…
Women Feel No Attraction Toward Men They Don't Perceive As A Prize!
But the good news is…
There are ways to present your attraction assets to women without looking needy for validation or approval.
Here's one of my favorites...
I'll tell a woman a story to disclose my attraction assets.
But here's the key… and this is important… so pay attention…
The plot of the story is never about one of my attraction assets. If it were, I'd risk coming across as needy to impress women.
Instead, my attraction assets become either a detail within the story or the context the story takes place in.
I've got a fun, light-hearted story, for example, I've been telling women for years about how when I was in Prague I discovered that all women are perverts.
While the plot is devoid of any attraction assets, the context the story takes place in contains the attraction asset I want to convey – namely, that I'm well traveled.
A friend once argued: "If a woman has been to Prague, isn't the attraction asset you're trying to disclose going to have as little impact as conveying to her that you've been to McDonalds before?"
If she's spent time in Prague , this story ain't gonna make her drop to her knees and kiss your feet.
But so what! Most likely, it's not that often she comes across someone who's also been to Prague . You and her share an experience the people around you probably don't. And that, my friend, is an attraction asset in its own right.
Every Ladies Man Has At Least A Few Great Stories – And For A Good Reason…
Storytelling is one of the best mediums for conveying your attraction assets to a woman.
If you haven't yet picked up a copy of my ebook do so by clicking here. It's the foundation for everything I teach.
Your Loyal Dating Coach,
How To Compel Women To Touch You Seconds After Meeting Them...
Author: Swinggcat
Why do women keep touching this man?
"Hey man, Your material is awesome. I've been using it on my girlfriend from the first date, being the prize, doing open loops, triggering attraction and curiosity, making her chase me etc... We have been together for 3 month and she is crazy about me and never gets enough of me.
I have also kept applying your ideas to every hot girl I've been interacting with since then, and had amazing results ! A lot of girls now try to touch me whenever they can and THEY are trying to build sexual tension with me! Of course I help them doing it, since I'm a gentleman:-) As a result I've had on several occasions girls dying to sleep with me to the point of rubbing their tits against me while talking to me, and one girl, who knew my girlfriend(!), once started kissing my neck, trying to get to my mouth...Well I had to stop her, sorry baby another time :-)
I'm actually pretty sure that I would having 3x more sex if I weren't with my girlfriend (and that would be A LOT). THAT my friend is a change ! I know what you're thinking but she is probably the first girl I met who is really worth being faithful to, so that's what I do.
I had never been really bad with women, but because I had a couple mental and technical issues I often had to rely on luck to have the occasion to approach a hot women while I was in a very good state. Escalation had never been a real problem for me though.
But now that you've helped me get rid of these issues I feel "in state" pretty much all the time and I am definitely on my way to certified pimp! Can't wait to have some money (charms of student life...) to get my hands on your audio courses. Keep up the good work !"
Jet from London
I love your story, man. Congrats on getting an awesome girlfriend and having the skills to keep her crazy about you.
Many men stop doing what initially sparked the attraction with their girlfriends and wives. This puts the relationship on its death bed.
When you stop generating attraction in your woman, you're opening up a can of nasty worms: from her acting bossy and mean to going out and having an affiar with another man.
Keep up the great work!
You pointed out… women keep trying to touch you. And, as you know, your boost in confidence is a huge factor.
But I've got a question for ya… Do you consciously know what psychological mechanisms emotionally drive women to touch a man?
In this letter I want to share with you one of these mechanisms. Once you become aware of it, you'll have the power to compel women to touch you at your whim.
Just imagine what life would be like, if you had power to emotionally drive any woman you desire to reach over and touch you.
But first... I'm going to tell you a short story… one that might shed some light on what this mechanism is (and as you're reading the story, try to guess what I'm getting at).
Years ago, a woman asked me where I live.
I responded with, "Sorry sweetie… I think you're mistaking me for one of your neighbors from the trailer park you grew up in."
She affectionately touched my arm and bantered back, "You're so mean!"
I playfully scolded her by saying, "This shit ain't for free."
Laughing like a hyena, she responded with, "I love you."
Then she wrapped her arms around my body, giving me a big bear hug.
But I didn't stop there. I amplified the sarcasm a notch with, "Stop treating me like a giant sausage with feet!"
Next… her hand went straight for my crotch.
I grabbed her and we started kissing.
Was this a fluke? Is this girl looser than Jenna Jameson?
She was driven to act this way because of a key psychological mechanism… one that's out of her control… one that I'm going to share with you in a minute.
But first…
Here's a truism in our culture… The frame – or underlying meaning – of a man approaching a woman is that she is the Prize he is trying to win her over.
In plain English – the woman has more value than the man.
If you want to become a ladies' man, you've got to proactively do or say something in every interaction you have with a woman that changes the frame from her being the Prize to you being the Prize.
In the example above I accomplished this by responding to her question about where I live with, "Sorry sweetie… I think you're mistaking me for one of your neighbors from the trailer park you grew up in."
Seems a bit harsh? Why didn't she walk away? Or slap me across the face?
First of all, this girl was dressed to nines. She mentioned going to an Ivy League college. It was obvious that she didn't grow up in a trailer or mobile home. She knew I was joking around with her.
Second… I said this to her in a sarcastic tone.
Thus… I got away with setting a very strong frame because I added a ton of humor.
She didn't perceive my comment as mean or manipulative.
Instead she saw it as charming and attractive and felt compelled to banter back.
Yet she still wanted to take back control of the frame (Though she found me charming and attractive, she wanted to get back her status as the Prize).
However… she couldn't think of a comeback.
So she touched my arm.
"Why?" you might be wondering.
Most women intuitively know… one of the fastest ways to take back control of being the Prize is to touch a man… because…
Most men think that when a woman touches them it means she's interested.
Many a man takes the bait by sticking his dirty little paws all over her.
She pulls back and – voilà – she's regained her status as the Prize the guy is desperately trying to win over.
But when you refrain from touching a woman and frame her touching you as meaning she's blatantly coming onto you, like I did in the example above, you maintain your status as the Prize she's trying to win over.
As a general rule: I usually don't touch a woman until she's touched me two to three times. If you give in after the first touch, you risk the frame reversing back to her being the Prize.
But after she's touched you several times, you can touch her back without losing the frame that you're the Prize.
So let's recap: When you're verbally bantering back-and-forth with a woman and she cannot think of a comeback or she realizes that you've outwitted her, she will invariably reach over and touch you. It's a sneaky attempt regaining her status as the Prize.
You might be thinking, "How in the world am I supposed to outwit every woman I desire?"
Easy. Wit is not an innate ability; it is learned.
Alas, it's not taught in school. Even worse, there are few places on this earth where you can learn this skill.
I went through most of my life thinking I was lumbered with a humorless wit.
But through a lot hard work and experimenting I've come up with a repeatable stucture that gives you the tools to out wit any woman. And you won't have to spend years of toil doing standup comedy.
And if you follow the simple steps I give inside my course, in a few short weeks you'll have the skill to outwit any woman and set frames in hilarious ways that establish yourself as the Prize she is trying to win over.
Just think... If you had this skill, how would it change your life today?
But that's only the tip of the iceberg. My course is a world class education on dating, attracting, and succeeding with the women you desire.
This knowledge took me many long hours of experimenting to discover. And you won't find these secrets anywhere else in the world.
Just like many others have been doing, you too can catapult your current lifestyle with women by getting your hands on a copy of my course right now. You deserve it.
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Using Challenges To Make Women Qualify
Author: Swinggcat
I want to share with you a powerful method for generating ATTRACTION; a method women naturally use on men. But before I do I am going to share a personal tale that takes a lurid look at the collective male ego's pathetic attempt to buoy above water when it comes to attracting women. There are only a few people who I have shared this story with thus far, and I feel almost bashful sharing it with you. It is so important, however, that I share this story with you that I am willing to take one for the team and swallow my pride a bit.
When I was fifteen I went to high school with a guy who claimed to be dating a teen model. Not being the coolest cat in the litter box, he went out of his way to prove to everyone that he was "actually dating her": he cut out pictures in magazines of her, and even made up stories about the two of them making monkey love. Everyone mercilessly teased him, seeing through his transparent lies. In a sad attempt at regaining the smattering of respect people had for him, he promised everyone that she would attend his birthday party. I ended up going to his party just to prove to myself that this girl was a figment of his imagination. Long story short, she was real. She was also drop dead gorgeous: stunning tall blonde, complete with angelic face, an ice cold personality, and cigarette in hand (I was in love!). Birthday boy, however, was not "actually" dating her. In fact, she wanted nothing to do with him.
Fast forwarding a bit, we ended up "getting it on." That was the good news. There was, however, a catch: She had a boyfriend. She let me know, fretting a wound in my heart, that although she enjoyed fooling around with me, she would never break up with her boyfriend for me. Then she poured verbal rubbing alcohol on my open wound by telling me that I did not fit the quota of her "ideal man": I wasn't, for example, tall or handsome or the offspring of rock star parents…or whatever. Next she made a cruel try at alleviating the sting by telling me that it wasn't my fault, but hers – this, of course, only made me feel worse.
Did I run as fast as I could from this little ice princess?
No – instead I had an "I am going to try to live up to her ridiculously high standards" mentality. Similar to many other men in our culture, I viewed attracting beautiful women as a series of hoops and barriers I had to get through. I thought: "I am going to do whatever it takes to become the man of her dreams."
Did I end up winning her heart?
Not at all. And the feeling it left me with was akin to one's nether regions being stretched like a foot of flesh colored taffy. Unless your sexual preference rhymes with the month of May, this is a situation you want to avoid at all costs.
Generating ATTRACTION in a woman is not about living up to her standards. ATTRACTION is not what a woman prefers in a man. Women prefer, for example, men who are tall, dark, handsome, rich, and famous…with really big penises. If ATTRACTION was about what women prefer, only the Brad Pitts, the Dave Navarros, and the Ron Jeremys of the world would be getting laid. This, thank God, is not what ATTRACTION is.
ATTRACTION is not about how a woman judges you.
Letting a woman judge you will make you want and need her validation. Put in other words, you will become even more attracted to her. This, however, will make you less attractive to her than dingle berries hanging from a baboon's behind.
ATTRACTION is about emotionally compelling a woman to chase you. It's about creating inside her the emotions of wanting and reaching for more of you. Those of you who own my book, Real World Seduction, know how to do this.
Now that I know what ATTRACTION is, I realize this woman had succeeded in making me attracted to her. I have extracted the powerful mechanism she used on me and now apply it to ATTRACTING women – but in a way that is neither mean nor manipulative.
So this begs the question: What is this powerful mechanism for ATTRACTING women?
I call it "Challenging & Qualifying." This is the art of CHALLENGING women so they QUALIFY themselves to you. When a woman qualifies herself to you, she is trying to get validation from you. Put in other words, anything you do that forces a woman to qualify herself to you, generates the emotion of ATTRACTION: her wanting and reaching for more of you.
One of the best ways to get good at this is to develop really high standards: know exactly what you want in a woman. When talking to them, convey that you are unwilling to compromise these standards even one iota.
A few years ago, for example, I tried out a little social experiment. I decided that I was only going to be interested in women who were sexually adventurous and spontaneous. If they weren't sexually adventurous, no exceptions, I would walk away – even if they were super cute.
The weird thing, however, was that instead of sleeping with less women, I was sleeping with more – a lot more.
Within the first few minutes of meeting women I would ask them if they were adventurous and spontaneous. If they ended up being adventurous and spontaneous, I would grab their hands and say: "If you were in kissing school, how would your kissing teacher grade your kissing skills?" To which they usually hastened back: "I would get an A+." I would proceed by putting my hands on their sacrum, pulling them close to me and saying, "Let's find out." And most of the time they would kiss me.
Women responded very powerfully to this. Although it wasn't overt, the subtext was that I was QUALIFYING them for sex. Many women find this to be sexually titillating.
I think part of this is that in our culture men typically are the ones who sexually QUALIFY themselves to women: some men, for example, brag to women about the size of their schlong, or how good they are in bed…or whatever they feel will qualify them as meeting women's sexual standards.
Instead I was sexually QUALIFYING women. Many women after the fact have told me that they thought: "If this guy has the nerve to ask me if I live up to his sexual expectations, he must be good in bed."
Challenging women in this way, furthermore, sparks a "tension loop" inside them. When you challenge a woman it creates unresolved emotional tension inside her body. She has to QUALIFY herself to you in order to release and bring closure to this tension.
A big part of making this work is having a strong intent. Having a strong intent is having the desire and will to do whatever it takes to achieve your intended outcome, coupled with the BELIEF that you can achieve this outcome. So, for example, when challenging a woman to meet my standards of sexual adventurism, spontaneity and being a good kisser, I have both:
1) The will and the desire to make her qualify to me that she is sexually adventurous, spontaneous, and a good kisser.
2) The belief that she will qualify to me that she is sexually adventurous, spontaneous, and a good kisser.
Developing this belief is the real key to success with CHALLENGING women. In my next newsletter I am going to talk about how to develop this belief.
I have really only given you the abridged version of CHALLENGING women. My book gets deeply into the intricacies of Challenging and Qualifying. If you are ready to gain mastery over the inner workings of generating ATTRACTION in women using methods, such as Challenging & Qualifying, click the following link today.
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What's up man, this is A, the greaser guy you met in LA.
I remember you mentioned you don't do cold reads anymore. I was wondering what you meant by this?
Is there a reason you dropped them out of your game?
A from California
My comments:
For those who don't know "cold reading" is when you tell someone about themselves without having any prior knowledge of them. This is what psychics do. There are a number of gimmicks you can use to do cold readings: for example, some guys have had success using handwriting analysis and palmistry. If you are confident in your cold reading ability, however, you can cold read women without using gimmicks.
I used to use cold reading within the first thirty seconds of meeting a woman. I no longer do this for several reasons. One is that cold reading usually consists in asking a woman questions about her self. Pummeling a woman with questions within the first few minutes of meeting her can be a bit intrusive. This could make her feel uncomfortable, causing her guard go up. Instead, open up to her first by jesting around with her or by telling funny stories…or whatever. My point is this: If you open up first, this will make her feel more comfortable opening up to you.
I still use cold readings - but only sparingly when first talking to a woman. Put in other words, I usually DON'T use cold readings as a means of engaging women in conversation. I might use a cold reading if I have already engaged a woman in conversation. These days, however, I mostly use cold readings to handle tests and barriers I run into along the way of attracting a woman. Cold reading can be a powerful tool when it comes to attracting women. If you really want to get a foothold on using cold reading to attract women, be sure to pick up a copy of my book. It breaks down step-by-step how to using cold reading within the context of ATTRACTING women. This is cutting edge info that you won't find anywhere else.
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Hoop Theory
Author: Mystery
"You do NOT have to answer questions asked of you. In HOOP THEORY, a girl gives you a HOOP and AFCs think they HAVE to jump through it. Simply, grab the hoop FROM HER and get her to jump through it or present another hoop to HER. OR ... just don't jump through her hoop and leave it at that. SILENCE is often the BEST REPLY."
Grabbing her hoop:
HB: Will you buy me a drink?
YOU: Buy ME a drink and we will see.
Putting up a new hoop:
HB: Why are you talking to me?
YOU: Hey why do you do wear your lipstick like that?
HB: What is with your shirt?
Conveying Personality
Author: Asian Playboy
Let's get something straight, girls judge by looks. If you are NOT good looking, your only recourse is to have a hella tight VERBAL GAME.
Let's get something straight, girls judge by looks. No ifs ands or buts about it, they simply do. They want someone tall, dark, and handsome with a huge cock. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS. They ALSO want someone that can fill an emotional vacuum as well as PROVIDE THEM with an emotional stimulus.
Honestly, I wouldn't want to be a chick because guys judge almost exclusively by ONE CRITERIA. Which is looks. Now girls, judge by TWO CRITERIA (well, actually more, but for the sake of simplicity…) which are looks and YOUR ABILITY TO AFFECT THEIR EMOTIONS. Or, in lay man's terms, your "personality."
In order to exude confidence, fun, cool, and a host of other emotions, you must CONVEY that you have all these personality traits. This can range from peacocking in wild, outlandish, cool clothes showing that you are fun and unconventional to the VERBAL GAME
IF you have VERBAL GAME, then you can convey your personality, show the girl who you are, as well as push all those attraction buttons in a girl.
Some key elements of VERBAL GAME:
PROJECTION - If you cannot PROJECT and be VOCAL above the loud noise, sounding confident and engaging the group, then you are not conveying your personality. They cannot HEAR you and thusly will judge you simply on looks.
STORY TELLING - Girls communicate by story telling. They are emotional beings. Do not recite facts. Do not ask inane questions, but CONVEY YOUR PERSONALITY by telling multiple stories from your life that range from the funny, to the exciting, to the vulnerable. Role playing, future projection, and just being damn funny. Singing. Yes, I said singing.
KINO - Girls affect others (male & female) by touch. They know they can affect a man's emotions and state by touching you. This also applies vice versa. You CAN touch girls without fear. You CAN caress them without fear. You CAN push them around without fear. You CAN kiss them without fear. BECAUSE GIRLS ENJOY KINO AND THEY ENJOY YOUR TOUCH.
SEXUAL STATE - By being in a sexual state, by being WILLING to phase shift into a sexual state and force HER into a sexual state, you are CONVEYING that you are a SEXUAL MAN. You WANT her and SHE wants you. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS.
ENERGY - This is ESSENTIAL for interrupting large sets AND mixed sets. You must be willing to EXUDE and GIVE your energy to others. You must ENJOY the process of partying, sarging, and socializing with total strangers and NOT GIVE A SHIT.
PHYSICAL SPACE - Physical space is AN ILLUSION. You can invade her physical space, get closer to her, and FORCE her to look at you. On the flip side, you can act INDIFFERENT and make her insecure in her ability to attract YOU because you are keeping a certain amount of physical space.
INTERACTION - This is mostly for those who are heavily routine dependent. If you are simply reciting routine after routine, the girl will feel LESS INVESTED in the moment. You must PULL HER IN and interact with her.
FRAME CONTROL - You MUST control the frame, whatever that may be. You can treat her as a CHILD and she MUST accept it. She will be PULLED into YOUR reality and be fully concentrated on YOU. You cannot let HER control the frame or otherwise she will have NO EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH YOU.
QUALIFICATION - You MUST qualify her in order to create and maintain an emotional connection with her. Otherwise you will come off as either an ENTERTAINMENT, DANCING MONKEY or a PLAYER who simply takes her number and leaves, leaving her feeling cold, used, and impersonal. You MUST state at some point what about HER that YOU like. DIRECT GAME depends on this the MOST (ie You are BEAUTIFUL and I'd like to get to KNOW you better).
BODY LANGUAGE - While this is not exclusively VERBAL, the fact is, your body language SUBCOMMUNCIATES to others what YOUR status and value is. If you LOOK like you are uncomfortable in a social setting, your value, coolness, and overall personality GOES DOWN. If you LOOK and ACT like someone COMFORTABLE in his skin, then your value goes up. This can include the way you hold yourself, react to girls touching and talking with you, to dancing.
If you are NOT good looking, your only recourse is to have a hella tight VERBAL GAME. Mysterious, brooding, silent and sexy only works for Naturals who ARE naturally good looking and can get away without any kind of game.
So, to make a long story short, if you are NOT good looking (8 and above), then you MUST convey your personality to a girl in order for HER to find YOU attractive beyond just the physical aspects. You can think of yourself as the most fun, exciting, intellectual, sensitive guy, but if you cannot CONVEY it, if you are some wallflower that sticks to the shadows, then you cannot DEPLOY your verbal game and CREATE the attraction in her. Then you are depending on LUCK and HOPING that she somehow magically SEES those amazing aspects of you based on no observational, supporting data.
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Attraction From Square One
Author: Gunwitch
Gun here from Way of Gun with an article on base female to male attraction stuff.
I am gonna go in to some super deep psychology stuff no one has ever heard about, who hasn't studied it, so read carefully.
Ok we all know at some base level people are attracted to each other based on their body, face, hair, build or their overall looks.
That's the simple first fact of it. Simple absolute truth.
In this game, in this community however, our goal is of course to use that thing between her ears to get her attracted, regardless of having ideal overall looks for her ideal.
What I will explain here is how to get her brain working in the proper directions, so she will when be influenced in her choices about you.
When I studied everything from neurology to biological psychology to physiological psychology, I always had an eye on that exact mechanism. The "choice mechanism", I asked, what was it, how could I work in to it and influence» it?
I never imagined I would even have a debate with someone in my life who did not work at it from this angle. Never imagined this because the use of "changing someone's choices", for influence» in any area, is of course NEED ONE.
Any practitioner of influence» who doesn't understand this and exactly how it works has no hope of ever understanding their game fully.
So what is the first and foremost understanding one needs to have in interpersonal influence»?
Between a man and a woman?
Psychology 101 here so don't write it off, and if you are a woman. Unless you have attended a university and studied the stuff don't tell me I am wrong, out of ego:
Sex is an act of submission for a woman, to an overall dominance of her being.
To be penetrated, to take in, to be filled up with someone else is an act of submission. This is not to say women do not enjoy the act, they in fact love it, but it is hard wired in the DNA of heterosexual women that this submission is the ultimate in sexual pleasure.
If anyone knows their psychology already and wants the "gattaca" dna breakdown and consequence from the chemical reactions behind it on male vs female neurons look it up yourself. Or if enough ask for it I will draw it up and get it online.
Of course looks can come in to play and cause a biological attraction to the guy which fosters this, but does not make it happen by itself.
We won't concern ourselves with that element of it however. Everyone who knows anything knows to look their socially acceptable best for the mating game already. Anyone who knows anything also knows good looking guys mess up their attraction game just as bad if not worse than others at times.
Without going in to all the exact science and filling up 30 pages, just know that women take in, men put in. Not in some little kid fashion, but hard wired in the resulting DNA from the x and y chromosomes.
We cannot however just walk up and put our penis inside of her to achieve this.
We need dominant behaviors to trigger this inside her mind that will result in her feeling submissive.
First what is "dominant" to her "submissive" nature?
As you look at the below traits listed, think of how women possessing them have a harder time with men in general, how they repulse us, or in the guy with no game, even scare him away.
Quick list of traits:
Being masculine.
Being looked up to by others.
Being of more social intelligence than others.
Being able to let loose and not hold back/confidence in actions.
Having a stronger persona than her.
Having a more powerful positive state than her.
Lots more...
Now I don't want this to get TOO long so I will list some behavior and situations you can get examples of that are these things:
Oldie but a goody, not supplicating. An instant screwed up frame is established when you kiss ass of course.
You are having a conversation with her and she says she doesn't like something that you say you like, saying "well you don't know anything about it woman!" tongue in cheek is dominant without being a dick. While on the other hand saying "come to think of it yeah it is stupid" breaks frame.
Something I like to do at bars and clubs and parties is have a stronger party vibe than everyone else. An "UP" state which inside of I will:
Walk up to a chick and put up my fists as if to fight and when she puts hers up play fight super light with her until she turns her back to me from me fake slapping at her.
I will literally walk up and pick up a chick. On my shoulder and carry her away.
If a chick does the "ahhhh scream and run away" thing mid conversation I will chase after her and grab her around the waist and pick her up.
If a chick busts my balls about something, maybe makes a joke at me, I will put her in a light headlock.
If you are reading these saying "I ain't like that though that's what other guys do with their girlfriends" you are dead on right. That's why they are some other guys girlfriend, not yours.
Other things I will do is if in a deep conversation with a chick and she is talking a lot and offering a lot more insight in to the topic, I will change the subject to something I am more well versed in and not act phased by her insights.
I frame women and other men as a student and me as the teacher in conversations. I ain't a rude and interrupting guy, and I don't talk down to people. But I also tell people how it is, I don't go "uhmmm maybe you should think about getting rid of that car if you can". I say "get rid a that car that sounds like a piece of junk".
Dedication to what you say. Not "approval hopefully for saying this" is the key.
Old one here in this community but I don't look away first when eyes lock with mine, chicks or guys. I make sure they look away first.
Another old one, I don't speak super fast, I come off like people actually want to hear what I have to say and will wait. I naturally talk fast so have to work at this one sometimes.
I see myself as masculine, a man, not a boy, and project that to people.
I will tickle you, I will tickle her, someone tickles me I don't giggle, they do.
I don't always feel the need to answer everything everyone says to me. Someone says something trivial like "this is a cool song" that I just put on the radio I don't go in to a novel about how I like it.
I pick up words. Phrases I like and words other people don't use, I use em, and talk how I want to talk, I don't hold back for fear of "seeming weird".
Lots of things like this, that you can easily realize by looking for dominance(not MEAN but MORE based dominance).
Now these alone will not achieve attraction fully.
At this point she simply has submitted to your frame and is now admiring you, attracted to you as a persona.
You will start to then notice her do opposite behaviors things like:
Never giving you eye contact for more than a few seconds with a certain look in here eye you have to know to know.
Running off and looking back at you playfully.
Play fighting with you and losing rather easy.
Jumping on your back to get a piggy back ride.
Jumping on your front and wrapping her legs around you.
Trying to make you tickle her.
Asking your opinion on things in the conversation.
Things to suck you in to the mating ritual, naturally start to come out of her.
At this point you simply need to go sexual state on her fully:
Project the sexuality through your tone of voice.
Touch her more sensually/slower and longer strokes.
Get closer and closer to her.
Give her deep sensual eye contact.
She will at this point:
1. At a neurological level she will see you as a lover, because you are taking the actions of a lover. This works a lot like "anchors" of the Pavolvian sense (CS), but more modern HUMAN biological psychology instead. Different areas of the brain process this than sense (visual, auditory, kinosethetic) based anchors, and she feels a sense of similarity with you as a lover from her awareness of other people. This also works in other terms like the (UCS)in that she feels she SHOULD act on it because she HAS in the past.
2. She will follow your sexual state because of the dominance set in before. She begins to herself slide in to the sexual state as part of her overall attraction to you, and hence becomes biologically attracted as well.
3. No science here on this point, but I suspect from all I know it is, she once going sexual also begins to wonder "why" she is attracted, and attributes good qualities to you. Like "fractionating" theory. Basically she says if she is in to looks and knows it: "oh it must be because he has strong arms", if she is in to money and knows it: "this guy is so smart he has a lot of potential" even though you may be fat and broke. As she does not 100% KNOW you are attracted, as you have not told her you are, yet SHE is becoming attracted she will come up with her own reasons/excuses if you are not her "classic type".
Put all 3 together, or AT LEAST the first two from biological fact, you have attraction achieved that you can easily close her based on, the sooner the better.
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Push Pull Examples
Author: Swinggcat
First A Few Words About Push-Pull...
Similar to the Meta-Frame, every guy I've met who's genuinely skilled with women uses some form of Push-Pull.
Unfortunately, ninety-eight percent of the rest of the males in the world have no idea what Push-Pull is. For most of my life, I didn't either.
In fact, I was so clueless, I'd have thought using Push-Pull would mess up my chances with women (This couldn't have been further from the truth. Boy was I wrong).
But When I Discovered The Power Behind Push-Pull My Ability To Consistently And Powerfully Attract Women Skyrocketed...
Before I share with you the ins and outs of what Push-Pull is I'm gonna give you three Real World example of me using Push-Pull...
Push-Pull Example #1
I grabbed a woman's hand and said, "You have the most amazing smile I've seen tonight… It makes me feel so happy inside!"
She responded with, "Thank you!"
Then I counted the fingers on my other hand and said, "You know what: actually there were four other girls with really amazing smiles tonight as well. Out of them, you have the fourth best smile. I'm going to call you number four."
And then I pushed away her hand.
She demanded, "Nooo! I want to be number one!"
And I replied , "Alright, I'll promote you to number three for being feisty."
Push-Pull Example #2
A woman replied sarcastically to something I said.
So I said to her, "You know... you're pretty sarcastic... and some people might think you're mean because they don't get your sarcasm. But I think your sarcasm is cool because I'm the same way. I'm also sarcastic. And that's exactly why you and I could never hang out. 'Cause if we did we'd have the best time making fun of everyone in our environment at their expense. And that'd be karmicly bad 'cause then all the people we made fun of would have low self esteem."
She responded with, "Nooo. We have to hang out. You're giving me your number right now."
Push-Pull Example #3
I challenged a woman to kiss me... and she did.
So I said, "You're more adventurous than I thought. You get an A-. And you have permission to cook me dinner."
She retorted with, "What type of food do you want me to cook you?"
Do you understand how these examples I gave...
generate attraction in women.
are neither manipulative nor mean.
make healthy women perceive you as charming and attractive and as a Prize they're compelled to win over?
If you do, you're on the right track. And as you're reading what I'm gonna tell you, you'll probably be thinking: Amen brother, finally someone who gets it.
If you don't yet understand, there's a good chance you're missing out on heaps of success with women you could be having. And it's crucial to your future with women that you pay attention to what I'm about to tell you.
One reason it's difficult for some of us guys to understand Push-Pull is that men become aroused differently than women.
For many a man, when he's turned on, he can't wait to climax... and get the job finished.
Many men become frustrated when women prevent them from climaxing. They think she's acting mean and manipulative.
But maybe not.
As you might know...
Women Get Aroused Differently Than Men!
For most women, it's a huge turn on when a man gets them all hot and bothered... and then stops touching them, making them anticipate his touch... and then starts again, exponentially increasing their arousal.
This is exactly the same as the underlying structure of Push-Pull...
And probably why many women are natural Push-Pull artists.
And as you saw with the examples above...
Push-Pull can be used to generate arousal and attraction inside women before you ever become intimate with them (A truism most men don't realize).
I want you to do something...
Touch your arm with your hand very lightly, as if it were a feather... and then take your hand away.
If you did it right you'll feel an itching sensation.
Touch your arm again lightly... and then take your hand away.
The itching sensation should have increased, yes?
Push-Pull has the same structure.
Whenever you emotionally Pull a woman into you … and then Push her away... and then Pull her in... and so on, you're creating inside her a sexual and emotional itch to want and reach and chase for more of you.
If you do this in a playful way, women won't see you as a manipulative jerk.
They'll instead...
See you as charming and attractive.
Perceive you as a Prize they must possess.
Know that you're one of the few coveted men that understand what arouses and attracts women.
Be itching with attraction toward you.
Inside my course you get a world class education on using Push-Pull to generate attraction in any woman... regardless of you being her physical type... and this is the only place in the entire universe where you can learn about Push-Pull... because I'm the only one teaching it.
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Beauty Is Common
Author: Neil Strauss , Mystery
NightVision - This routine is to get them to qualify themselves to you.
Mystery version:
You know, you are a very pretty girl, but beauty is common… so you got lucky in the gene pool. What counts is a women with an adventurous personality… energy, great energy and a mischievous streak. And what you make of yourself.
Mystery version:
You know what, a lot of people here are so immature. All they focus on is how something looks. But I learned, from an early age (it's a long story, I'll tell you some other time), that beauty is common.
Sure, it's work to maintain, but so what if you're beautiful? There are so many beautiful people in the world. Look around. Big deal! Beauty is an accident--so you got lucky in the gene pool--but what have YOU made of yourself. That's what I'm interested in.
So for me when I meet someone that is attractive, it does nothing for me. And in fact I often wonder if they've gotten lazy cultivaitng the other parts of their personality, the ones that don't fade. What I usually like to ask them is: what are three things about you that a man would
find attractive, and none of them can be about your looks.
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
Munipulate Men With Your Body
Author: Neil Strauss
(to a HB that is trying to use her body to win you over such as pushing her breasts into you etc)
"Somewhere along the way, I bet you learned to manipulate men a lot with your body, by touching and hugging them. You probably get them eating out of your hand this way. But I'll tell you something: I grew up with a lot of sisters, and I've always been immune to this." (note: I have NO sisters.)
She says, "I don't try to manipulate men this way. It's just how I am."
I know what's she's saying is bs, and of course I don't want her to stop touching me. So I say: "But I'll tell you another thing. I'm like a pet. Dogs and cats like to be petted. It doesn't have to be sexual or non-sexual. It just feels good. It's important." She says "good" and gives me another killer hug.
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
Masturbating In The Shower Routine
Author: Unknown
YOU: "Did you know that 93% of girls masturbate in the shower?"
HER: "No"
YOU: "It's true- the other 7% sing"
HER: "Oh really?"
YOU: "Do you know what they sing?"
HER: "No, what?"
YOU: "Oh, you must be one of the 93% of girls that masturbates then"
HER: (Laughs)
Ultimate False Disqualifiers Collection
Author: Mav
NightVision : Can't believe we are releasing this treasure on the site. Took a long time for Mav to compile this list of false disqualifiers. Most of these come from Mystery . If some of them belong to some other PUA, please email NightVision , so credit could be given where credit is due.
It would never work out between us
I can already tell, you and I are not going to get along
You're too much of a nice girl for me
You're a dancer/model. OMG I can't even talk to you
I'm totally not boyfriend material. You need a nice guy who will buy you flowers and tell you how great you look. Hey, that guy over there looks perfect for you.
We are so broken up, I want my CD's back
Your first impression sucked
I'm much too high maintenance for you
You are trouble, I shouldn't be talking to you
Aww you are soo cute.. but we could never be a couple - we are too much the same.. we would fight and throw things and have incredible make up sex all over the place and fight more then sex fight sex fight.. too much drama and intense feelings for me!"
You know we would just fight all the time…. And I'd always win (smile)
You're awesome.. I love how you laugh at all my jokes and you make me feel like I'm the nuts.. I want to hang with you all the time.. Actually, I know I never will, because it's a bar-thing, but I felt the emotion of wanting it for one brief second back there, nonetheless…
You know what….I can already tell…..you and I…… I can talk to you for hours….its weird…I cant LISTEN (stresses) to you (laughs).
Her: Why did you talk to me then, if you think I suck so much You: you want the truth? … Proximity
I don't think we are going to get along. You need a nice guy you can walk all over.
I better leave you to your friends
You look as though you want to get back
You should meet my single friends…they would love you
I should let you go back to your friends…otherwise they will know you are hitting on me.
You remind me of an ex, you have the same smile, yeah…she was lovely, shit in bed though…I can't have another relationship like that.
Take out an imaginary pencil and "write" on your hand as you say "note to self…..do not date this woman. Do this if she has shown any tendancies you don't like.
Wow – that must have been rough on your last boyfriend.
Awww, you're breaking my heart. I can set you up with a real nice guy.
You're so cute (or funny) – I bet when you were a kid you used to get spaghetti all over your face.
We'd be horrible together. We'd spend all of our time cracking jokes and giggling, and never be able to accomplish anything productive
Take her hand, smile and shake your head "nope, I can tell we wont get along already, you see these lines here, they say you're the type of girl who wants a guy she can walk over"
Do you know what the leading cause of break-ups is – Relationships he he. A relationship is a romantic or sexual connection between two people. Take her hand and stare into her eyes…do you feel that? – we're breaking up then – throw her hand away.
I should let you go back to your room or they will think you are hitting on me (smile)
Are you always like that…..to people cooler than you ?
You remind me of my first love, We were so passionate, but she was wrong for me.
You have very strong hands, stronger than mine maybe.
Then again, all that depends on whether you can handle me
(to a taller woman) – Damn, you'd be simply awesome if only you were taller.
Hey you are getting a little too comfortable…this is a public place
You have a nice smile…Id say it's the third or fourth best smile I've seen today.
8 Girlfriends Attraction Routine
Author: Brad P
This has been field tested over 50 times. Women respond to it in a very predictable way.
Setup: Generally I set up attraction material by using it in response to a rapport-seeking question. I break rapport until the woman tries to seek it, then I break it further with an attraction routine like this. You can also set it up by bringing up the topic of having a boyfriend/girlfriend if she is not seeking rapport.
Her: Do you have a girlfriend? (Rapport-seeking question and display of interest in me)
Me: (With head down, looking sad and shaking my head) No. (Wait a moment, then look up, back to normal/happy look) I have eight girlfriends!
Her: You have eight girlfriends?!?
Me: Yeah, it's pretty cool. They all know each other. They hang out sometimes. It sure keeps me busy though.
Her: Wow, I've never heard of something like that.
Me: Yeah, I know I have a crazy lifestyle.
Her: That's really something.
Me: Hey, you know what, you're really sweet. I've been thinking of getting a ninth girlfriend. Now, I don't usually do this, because we don't really know each other that well, so don't tell anyone about this... but, um... maybe you might want to be my girlfriend?
Her: Sure, but I want to be #1!
Me: You want to be #1? But we just met!
Her: Well, I'll only be your girlfriend if I can be #1.
Me: Wow, tough one. Okay, check this out. Now I really never do this, but just this once, I'm going to do it for you because you're really sweet. I can make you #5 right now. Right off the bat, you're #5. That's kind of a big deal actually.
Her: No way! I want to be #1.
Me: You'll be able to make it to #1 I think, but you're going to have to work your way up. You'll probably have to take me on a few dates, buy me presents, and stuff like that. But I do think you have a good chance. If you really try hard, you can achieve your dreams.
It's been extensively field tested, and many of my students have watched me run this one.
The women know it's a joke, and they play along with it. Have fun!
Brad P
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PVC Devil Routine
Author: Tyler Durden
"Oh, you're getting fiesty, huh? You know what I would do with you? I would dress you up.... in a red.. PVC... *devil* outfit.. You'd have little horns like this... and a tail... bitch boots, and..... a pitch fork. Now your friend here.. I'd dress her up in a similar angel outfit.. with wings.. and a fur halo.. and I'd roll with you guys on each arm down the street.. Every girl would be jealous of you.. And whenever I'd have to make a decision.. I'd let each of you fight over which decision is the most fun.. and whatever one would be the most fun.. we'd do that." (the periods are to show the pacing, because they roll over laughing in between every pause)
I've also occasionally been known to follow up with variations of things I heard from Neil Strauss , like "Actually forget that.. I'd dress you up like a nun.. and me like a priest.. and we'd go into a church and to freak everyone out we'd just start making out. Actually fuck that, you're my little sister! That's disgusting! What are you doing to me!? Girls are sexual predators, you know that... you're doing (whatever she's doing) and you think you're all covert.. but I know this.. Girls are sexual predators.. (sexual predator routine stuff)."
I use this stuff early in set, or later on in set before I'm about to move them, and it's to implant the idea of rolling on each arm, and then I throw out my arms and they jump on like magnets.
Lately I've also teasing girls as "Polarity Responders", and explain that they're arguing with everything I say, as well as "stimulus seeking state change junkies" when they're not focusing.
Tyler Durden
Never Be A Couple Routine
Author: ijjjji , Tyler Durden
PUA: "Aww - you are soo cute.. but you make me SO SAD!
PUA: (pause with puppy dog face) Cos we could NEVER EVER be a couple!
PUA: Nooo.. we are too similar.. IMAGINE, we would be SO IN LOVE.. and the next moment, we would be fighting and screaming and throwing things.. and then we would have HOT MAKE UP SEX all over the place.. and then fight, makeup sex, fight, make up sex.. after a week we would both be in psychiatric care due to emotional drainage!"
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Gimmicks, Games and Tests are used to spice up the interaction with curiosity and fun.
The Cube - PickUp Artists Secret Weapon
Author: Organic
he Cube is a game that has been used by pickup artists for some time now, and for good reason. Recently, I asked my friends what results they've had with the cube. The stories are all different, but they all agree: Women will thank you for it. Women will remember it. Women will feel that you really understand them. And, women will want more. Those who use the cube know its power, and it has been their secret weapon.
So, what is it? Well, the cube is a game of questions and symbols. It is five
simple questions of imagination that will allow you to lead a woman deeper and deeper into a seduction. For the origins of the Cube a person could read through The Secrets of the Cube, by Annie Gottlieb. But, the pick up artist will find that he doesn't need to understand the traditional use of the cube. He only needs to know how to use this secret seduction weapon.
Now, the Cube can be used at anytime in a seduction…
It can be used as a playful game to build attraction (by teasing a girl for her
answers and making your interpretations funny and unrealistic.) And, it can also be used in the deepest phases of seduction to lead a woman's mind into her sexual desires (by making your interpretations sexual and erotic). However, what we are going to focus on here is using the cube to build trust and comfort. Most pick up artists will agree that the cube serves the greatest purpose for developing this kind of real connection with a woman you just met. It starts fun and playful as a game, and it ends by leading the conversation into deeper and deeper levels of rapport. Building this type of rapport is the real strength of the Cube.
The Seven Powers of the Cube
So, what is the purpose of the Cube? And why do women consistently react so well to it? Basically, what can the cube do for you? Well, the Cube will have many effects on your seduction…
1) Avoid Boredom - One of the most common mistakes that guys make is to fall into a boring conversation. To find out about the woman, all they can think of are the same old questions… "Where do you live? What do you do? What else do you do? Etc, etc…" The Cube offers a unique piece of conversation that will move away from facts and information, and into more emotional topics. It will lead to a discussion of things that are more meaningful and important to her.
2) Hook Her - Women LOVE these kinds of games. You might think it is cheesy, or too New-Age. But, trust me… Women get hooked. Look through any women's magazine, and I guarantee you will see little personality tests and games. The magazines know what women like, and we should too. The cube will help you hook her into your conversation, and can even be an excuse to isolate her: "Come with me, I'm going to show you something cool…"
3) Demonstrate Value and Personality - You will demonstrate a lot of value to the girl when you use the cube. Most simply, you are a man who leads the conversation, and already this is attractive. But, on an even deeper level, you can demonstrate that you understand women and what they want. You show that you are not like all the other guys. And, through your own personal interpretation of the cube you reveal your own personality and who you are.
4) Build a Connection - The Cube will help build a connection and a feeling of rapport. A woman who shares her cube with you is giving you a gift. It's a gift of insight into who she really is. She will be in a vulnerable state. As you learn about her and reveal things about yourself, she will see that you understand her. And, as she sees how you accept her gift and accept her, she will begin to trust you more. Sharing this vulnerability with her will create a bond that most guys would probably never get.
5) Qualify Her - The woman will assume that you must be qualifying her. Women often say that they were worried if they gave "the right answer." She knows that you are paying close attention to her answers, and she will really feel like you are choosing and selecting her. This is so valuable in conveying that you are a guy who has options and who has standards. In addition, you will really get a chance to listen to her and find out what you like about her.
6) Learn About Her - You will elicit what is important to her. All of the information that she gives you can be used later on in the seduction. The more you know about her, the more you will know how to seduce her.
7) Leave Her Wanting More – Once a woman experiences the Cube, she will associate the experience with YOU. And, she will want more of you and the experiences you bring. In fact, if you get interrupted in the middle of the cube, don't sweat it. She will come back to you, asking to finish. She will want more. Keep these effects in mind as you learn and practice the Cube. Everything you say when using the Cube should be directed toward invoking these 7 powers.
The Design of the Cube
By now, it should be obvious that the details of the game are not nearly as
important as how you play. The structure will have many variations, and
everyone will play it differently. And that's fine. Notice, the power of the Cube isn't to "be correct" or to give "the right interpretation." - There are no right or wrong Cubes.
So, this is how I do the Cube. You can structure it how you like, and find what works best for you.
"Have you ever done the cube?... Ok… I'll ask you a set of questions, and when I'm done I'll know everything about you. Are you ready? Do you have a good imagination? …Good." (The idea here is not to explain it, but just to get her hooked.)
"Now, imagine in front of you a landscape" (I'll usually gesture with my hand for them to imagine it in front of them). "And in the landscape there is a cube. Notice what size is it, what color is it? What is it made of? Where is it?"
"Ok, next you see a ladder. Notice, where is it in relation to the cube? What is it made of? What size is it?"
"Next there are flowers. Where are they? How many? What do they look like? What color are they?"
"Next, there is a horse. What does it look like? Where is it? What is it doing?"
"And, last there is a storm. Where is it? What is it doing? What does it look like?"
When she has visualized the entire image, then you can tell her the meanings.
They are:
Cube = Your Self
Ladder = Your Aspirations
Flowers = Your Friends
Horse = Your Ideal Lover
Storm = Your Challenges and Problems
Now, the routine I use doesn't follow the original book, and you shouldn't either. Do what feels best for you. You can use a desert or a movie theater instead of a landscape. You can introduce it by saying "I'll know more about you than even your best friends know." Or "have you ever been cubed?"
You can have her close her eyes, or draw it out.
Some people may also use different meanings. (Ladder = family, or coworkers, etc…) It's all fine. Just remember, you want to talk about things that will invoke the proper emotions in her, so avoid talking about things like children or enemies, etc…
Unraveling the Cube
So, it is one thing to know the rules of the Cube. It's one thing to know the meanings, and the images. But, the question remains: "What do I do? Just make stuff up?"
Well, what DO you say?
There are plenty of resources that will offer you exact interpretations. But, these really shouldn't be necessary. Remember, the point isn't to "do it right." The key is in giving your own interpretation, and this interpretation can be developed from your own mind, not from what a book tells you. However, if you are curious about suggested meanings, you can read the original book or check out this link:
Ok, since you're not going to follow the memorized meanings what do you say?
Well, here are some suggestions.
* You can be vague and use generalities – Just talk about women in general, and this will still have a powerful effect because she will relate to it. And, she will realize that you understand people, you understand women, and you understand her.
You're cube is xxxxxx. You are a very sensitive person. Probably you are a very good judge of character and you can tune into those times when people just want something from you. While other times you can really feel when a person is being sincere with you. (This describes any socially aware woman.)
* You can ask clarifying questions. Ask her, and she might tell you exactly what something means, doing your job for you. Ask her how she feels about the objects, or ask how they relate to each other.
Her: "My horse is leaning against the cube."
You: "Really? Why is it leaning against the cube?"
Her: "Well, it's just not strong enough."
You: "Oh, I see. It seems like the men in your life haven't been strong enough. You need a man who you can just look into his eyes and listen to him talk, and you know that he is strong… Etc… etc..."
* When you find aspects of the interpretation that really fit her, go into greater detail. Tell stories from your life that relate to her, or give her examples of how she might experience it in her life.
"You are a very creative person, but you're not at a point in your life right now where you are really using your creative abilities. It reminds me of how I felt a couple of years ago. I was working in this job that just wasn't creative, and I…. Etc…"
* Use things that you already know about her.
I met two girls the other night. One was bouncing around dancing, and the other (the one I liked) was standing calmer. Later, I ran the cube on her, and she said that her cube was blue. I said "A blue cube means that you are often calm and relaxed. And, sometimes your friends even come to you just to absorb your calm energy when their lives are more hectic." Of course, she loved it.
* And… you can…. use your… intuition. Yep. Go for it. Be like the enlightened master who has become one with his weapon and allow the force to flow through you. You might not only surprise her, but yourself too.
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* Keep your statements positive. In general, you want to phrase everything as a positive statement. If you really want to tell a woman that she has low sel festeem and that her life is out of control and hopeless, go ahead. But don't come asking me why she was suddenly turned off and depressed! It may take some creativity to keep things positive, but it can be done.
I'll give you an example. If she says she doesn't like the cube and she doesn't think it belongs in the scene, you might be thinking "oh crap, she hates herself?" No. You can tell her "well, when people see you they often want you to fit you into a category with defined boundaries and hard edges, but that's not who you are. You are independent and when you find yourself being put into a box, you know that it's not where you belong."
* One trick for keeping the interpretation positive is to interpret her ideal as being the opposite of what she describes.
For example: a weak and sickly horse means that she has had too many weak men in her life, and she really needs one that is strong and healthy.
* Add lots of Kino and strong Eye Contact. When you are bonding with a woman on this level, it is important to keep enhancing this experience by getting physically intimate with her.
(Note from NightVision - when she answers a question that you feel you could qualify her on, kino escalate. They have to notice the 'slight' change in your body language towards her. DO this each time she tells you something you like to hear or commonalities you both share. This is really powerful as it shows they are also slowly winning you over. It sets the meta frame of the interaction that you are screening her and she is qualifying herself to you)
* Take advantage of the horse. It is a great time to demonstrate that you know what women want. If her horse isn't ideal, then tell her it is an image of what she has attracted to her in the past, and what she really wants is actually the opposite. As you describe her ideal man, and get her thinking about it. Look into her eyes and take on that character as yourself. She will naturally start to see you as that man.
* Burst the tension now and then with a little cocky and playful comment. By making a joke or teasing her, you will keep it fun and keep her interested. Just be careful because she may be in a very vulnerable state to be sharing with you, so don't over do it. An example: "The Cube means that…. (pause) …. You want my body. (smile)"
* Start the interpretation with a bold (but irrefutable) statement about who she is and where she is in her life. This can be powerful and will demonstrate your authority and understanding.
* Use all of the little parts to get a bigger picture of her. Try to get a broad sense of who she is as a person, and then you can use that understanding to lead your interpretation.
* Lead her into emotional states. Using descriptive languaging, you can get her thinking and feeling on a deeper level. One way to do this is to take a general statement like "you are adventurous." And then go on to describe what it's like to be adventurous and how it feels. "You are adventurous. You know, like when you are in the middle of an adventure you really feel alive. As the excitement builds, you become focused on what you're doing, and you get totally wrapped up in what is happening…etc."
* Share with her, and get into the state yourself. If you get into a vulnerable state and reveal things to her, she will follow your lead. As part of this you may want to relate stories that are meaningful to you.
* Share your own Cube. Do the cube on yourself and be ready to share your answers with her if she asks.
* When getting started, it may help to memorize a few ideas that you can use every time. For example, you can always talk about women's intuition, or how she wants a strong confident man. As you do the cube more and more, you will begin to develop your own interpretations that always get good responses, and you can have these in store for every time you use the cube.
* Work with her, and go with what she says. You can use everything that she gives you, no matter what she says. If she says that the horse has a great cock, tell her that her ideal lover will be a great fuck. Go with it.
* Set the mood so that she feels good sharing. There is no need to rush the cube or feel awkward in anyway. Use your calm trust building tonality, and keep her feeling comfortable.
* Find commonalities and develop your connection with her. Since you are learning about each other, this is a great time to find out what you have in common.
* Don't fall into the trap of being the entertainer. Don't proceed to cube all of her friends, and her little sister. You're not her novelty psychic friend.
* Practice to get better. The more you do it, the better you will get, because you will find that many responses are very common. Cube your friends, your mom, your mailman, whoever…
* Tell her that her cube is unique, and you can even say "well, usually, that would mean this… but with you, I think it's a little different." or… "Wow, that's such an interesting image." Then, she will really feel special, and she will think that you are giving her a very special gift.
* Don't reveal everything. Leave parts out, or hint that there is something more. Always leave her wanting more. Do all this, and you will know why the Cube is our secret weapon. You will discover its power and find yourself using it on every girl you meet.
Transitioning and Structure discusses how you should transition from one routine to another, as well as the structure of the pick up.
Style's Structure
Author: Neil Strauss
I took some notes for myself the other day, and thought I'd share them. I guess this is my structure. May be too general and basic to help anybody, but here it is for posterity's sake.
Do improvised or canned opener
Give yourself a time constraint ("I can only stay for a minute because
I'm with my friends over there")
Body language as if you're about to leave
Convey personality, smile, but don't be over-enthusiastic
STEP TWO (you can also fractionate opener to do this)
Best friend test
Make perceptive or teasing comments about them (negs are included here)
Insert challenges
STEP THREE (can also be done during or after step four)
Option 1: Takeaway or false takeway
Option 2: Join the group, mid-story or routine, but again give yourself
time constraint
Use gimmick, magic, psychic routine, humor, game, whatever
Elicit Values
Find Commonalities
OPTION ONE: #close
OPTION TWO: Isolate target, phase shift/seduce, and *close
OPTION THREE: Stay in group (or return to group) so that you end the
night with them. Try to get to target's house, or get her to your house
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
Style's Structure
Author: Neil Strauss
I took some notes for myself the other day, and thought I'd share them. I guess this is my structure. May be too general and basic to help anybody, but here it is for posterity's sake.
Do improvised or canned opener
Give yourself a time constraint ("I can only stay for a minute because
I'm with my friends over there")
Body language as if you're about to leave
Convey personality, smile, but don't be over-enthusiastic
STEP TWO (you can also fractionate opener to do this)
Best friend test
Make perceptive or teasing comments about them (negs are included here)
Insert challenges
STEP THREE (can also be done during or after step four)
Option 1: Takeaway or false takeway
Option 2: Join the group, mid-story or routine, but again give yourself
time constraint
Use gimmick, magic, psychic routine, humor, game, whatever
Elicit Values
Find Commonalities
OPTION ONE: #close
OPTION TWO: Isolate target, phase shift/seduce, and *close
OPTION THREE: Stay in group (or return to group) so that you end the
night with them. Try to get to target's house, or get her to your house
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
Author: Wayne Elise "Juggler"
The best transition... is no transition?
No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition. No transition.
Go right into something that is very different from the last thing. After the hair thing, ask if they have any pets or ask what fun things they are doing this summer, talk about your trip to the amusement park or how your socks are really really tight or your brother who just ran away to join the carnival, whatever... Then push them together and do a street levitation (no props needed). Then talk about how you just broke up with your girlfriend even though she loved you deeply, you bastard.
Act out each of these routines/stories with appropriate emotions and expressions and do not look for ways to transition between them.
Transitions are for the weak minded. Look at it this way, when you first approach you are introducing a new state. There is no or little transition. Now you think that was the hard part. But in reality you need to re-open continuously by introducing new topics that are completely unrelated to the last. That is taking charge.
As soon as you know the topic is going to stall out or not be interesting anymore just pick it up and move it to another topic which is fresh and hopefully, a lot different from the last.
Regular people never do that in real life because they are afraid of cutting people off or not being able to make a new topic interesting, or worried about taking charge etc.. The problem is that when no one takes charge of the conversation and hopes it just goes in a good direction, the interaction has no magic, no zing or snap. And you end up trying to force these unnatural transitions. Don't do that. Be powerful. Be transition free!
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The Interesting/Interested model of interaction.
Rapport and Vibing: You know, that thing that is 95% of your conversation.
EXACTLY how to approach. Body language. How to ask questions.
The difference between sexual obsession and sexual interest.
Being the Alpha Buddha and giving away your approval.
Simple things you need to know to keep a conversation moving.
Statements of Intent: When to put your hand on the table.
Making presumptions: Have high expectations for everyone you meet.
Finding comfort and presence in silence.
Moving towards intimacy and closing.
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Observational Transitioning
Author: Rokker
One of the hardest things for new guys when it comes to cold approach is making conversations seem smooth and unstrained. This is especially true right after the opener, when you are about to turn the opener into a "normal conversation" (in other words, moving into the Attraction phase). This is nothing new, and both Sinn and Savoy have been dishing out stuff about this for awhile. There's a great chapter in Magic Bullets for transitioning.
The easiest way to transition in my opinion is by using observational transitions. These carry a number of advantages such as:
Piques her interest right off the bat as this isn't what every guy does and what you are saying is interesting.
It involves cold reads, which almost always gets a good reaction (and by a good reaction I mean something that helps you move the interaction forward).
You can easily display playfulness and humor with them.
They often lead you into another routine.
You can build interesting and playful "minimum input" routine series with them.
Here's the basis of delivering observational transitions: when you are about to (falsely) leave the woman or group after the opener, you notice something about a person (or persons) in the group that you just have to tell them about. The great thing about this is that they actually don't have to do anything to make you say this! In other words, you can use the same observational transition for every interaction and create routines for which you use the same transition every time. You can use this routine as training to get some live experience under your belt and work on your delivery, or you can use it as a back-up whenever you feel like you need it.
"Well, I could build routines with phrasal transitions too" you might say. Well sure, but in my experience interactions tend to go better and people listen more closely to what I have to say if I use cold reads and get their attention and then jump into my longer DHV stories than the other way around. Beyond that, cold reads and "observational transitions" are powerful tools that you can throw in pretty much anywhere in the interaction, so it's useful to learn a few of them anyway.
So what are some ideas for observational transitions? I have listed a few that I personally use (so you deliver your opener, then body rock as if you are about to leave and then fire out one of these babies):
"Oh my god I just noticed something... you guys are pretty good friends, aren't you?" [Go into the Best Friends Test routine]
"Hey, I just noticed... your eyes tend to slant downwards and to the left when I talk to you. My ex-girlfriend taught me that people who do that tend to be in touch with their feelings. They seem to listen and follow their feelings a lot. Would you consider yourself a person who listens more to her feelings than pure logic?"
[They answer and I follow up with:] "Yeah, because I like to do that too... actually, that very trait has led me to some great adventures... [and off I go into a story]
"I just noticed... you have a U-shaped smile." [and into C vs. Us routine]
"Hey, where did you get those shoes?! I was out shopping with a friend of mine the other day and she was looking everywhere for a pair of shoes like that... you do know that if that pair you're wearing was the last pair, then you are in some serious trouble!" If said to the target, I sometimes add: "I think I hate you now. You and I are so not going to get along. You made me spend four hours looking for those damn shoes!" [From here I continue with "Actually, speaking of my friend, she has this interesting theory..." and then off into a routine]
[They answer your opinion opener] Hmm... let me see your hands. Yeah, just like I expected." [They'll ask "what, what?" and you go into Finger Length routine]
"Geez, it's amazing. My ex-girlfriend has this "doppelganger" theory and it basically says that every person has an identical twin in the world, and you look exactly like my last girlfriend/aunt/sister/cousin/the girl I met last week. [and then go into a story about that person]
[Pause the opener, look at her and say:] "The way you stand when you talk to me... [pause] gives me the feeling that you're pretty confident and friendly... am I right? (As you may notice this could very well be used in the Qualification phase, like many other cold reads that say something about her.)
"Hey by the way, did you pick the finger you are wearing that ring on?" [and go into the Ring Finger routine]
"Hmm... something about you makes me think you are a pretty bad liar. We have to play the lying game to see if that's true. [and into the 5 Questions Game]
"Hey it's so cute, your nose wiggles when you talk and that totally reminds me of my ex-girlfriend and the time we went to... [and into a story]
There you have some ideas for observational transitions. Play around with these and come up with some of your own. Now you know an easy way to transition from your opener to your attraction material, which often is a big sticking point for new guys.
A good exercise for in-field improvisation is to make up your own "cold read" (or something you've noticed about a person or persons) on the spot. I like to do this because it's fun and I get a kick out of improvising. I'll say: "Hey, I noticed you have blue eyes, just like me. Did you know that they say that people who have blue eyes are more spontaneous and adventurous? Too bad you have blonde hair; you don't want to know what they say about that..."
Remember, the more natural a transition feels the more likely it will be a good one. By practicing you will make these feel very natural, but if you come up with something on the spot that feels more natural then by all means use that one.
The Love Systems Routines Manual is the foremost resource on routines, with detailed explanations of how they work and when to use them in the phases of the Emotional Progression Model. All of the above routines can be found in the Routines Manual, and many more. Check it out here.
For more advanced techniques, check out Interview Series Volume 1 on Opening and Transitioning with Sinn and Savoy and Volume 9 on Using and Creating Routines with The Don and Savoy .
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7 Point Model of Seduction
Author: McMaax
This is a model I follow to successfully, approach, attract and seduce women and it is modelled after some of the most successful models of PUA in the world. Most of the phases you will recognize but I have included two new phases as I think they are crucial.
Two new phases are
1. Pre open value calibration phase
2. The hook phase.
So let's begin.
NOTE: If you follow this model you will get laid like rockstars. Just had a RAFC friend of mine, follow this model had a hot 8 on saturday chase him and offer her number to him. Just one week ago he would stall after the opener.
7 Point Model of Seduction
1. Pre attract Phase (Clothes, social proof, body language, etc) This is my step that I have added. Remember you must calibrate your social value to the set before you even open your mouth. Alot of guys shoot themselves in the foot before they even open their mouths and get blown out, simply on non verbals. If you are going to open a 10, you must raise your "PRE-OPENER" Value before the set will even let you game them.
2. Opener - Must be non sequitar and must not convey any interest. I always use
Guys first impression these rings. I wear these big ass chunky rings - Blows open sets in clubs like fuckin' crazy. Or hey guys first impression these necklaces. I have some wierd, gothic style necklaces that I wear
Or How tall are you?
Do you believe in ESP?
In a Mall, I use an opinion opener and have stacked routines or stories that sequey from that. Each stacked routine has very little or no relationship with the previous thread. This idea of multiple threading, or stacking routines is an art form and we must get good at this.
NOW REMEMBER with a 10 you must NEG or value zing her to disqualify yourself from appearing like a potential "hitter" or "suitor" to her and her peer group if they are there.
I will say things like:
Too bad your not my type because you are really pretty
Or I will approach a set and say..Hey guys my name is McMaax. I just had to come by and ask you guys something. Let me see I need the most interesting one here. Not sure about you...Pointing to the target, but how about you to the Cockblock or ostacle? do you believe in magic, or whatever.
I will also sometimes give an HB ten "the finger" and she will usually say. WFT? but in an attracted way. If they say. you're an asshole. You have to be prepared for that contiengency and I reply. Look knucklehead, in my country that is a sign of affection!!!! I am being social, come on get up to speed!!!
I will say. Look I been wanted to talk to you but you are surrounded by all of your friends, I don't know why yet I mean you are pretty but who cares beauty is common, so who are you or what do you have going on for you besides your looks? If she says, well I'm smart. I will say "And that is special because.......".
In fact last weekend at this high bitch shield club, we had 7 girls hanging off of our arms. How? I gave the 10 a finger and this baited her to open me. See this type of stuff immediately conveys that you must be getting laid because who disqualifies themselves like this. NO one!!! except a real alpha male who is already getting girls, socially proofed through the roof.
OK so now once you have opened...Then you need to
3. Attract- How? by DHV'ng to the whole group which stands for demonstration of higher value. The best way I have found (FIELD TESTED to the max) is by telling stories. I have a few stories at the bottom that I will tell the whole group. Rememeber. Storytelling is an art and must convey that you possess characteristics of an alpha male like.
1.You are pre selected - "my ex who was an exotic dancer...."
2. You are the leader of men. (Read my YOrkdale story at the bottom)
3. I have standards for myself and for women I date. (Read my francesca story)
You may also DHV using cool IVD's like a massage technique, Palm reading, cold reading, dance moves, show her cool massage tips etc. but I reserve these more when I am alone with her in comfort or rapport phase or if she is in a two set with another chick or guy... Also when you are DHV'ing to the group, you must "falsely disqualify" to the target, to disarm the obstacles by letting them know that you can't possibly be there acting as a potential suitor for her, and to get her seeking your validation..Now if someone goes "yeah right or whatever..because your story is canned and they don't believe you" You say "Please get a life" and then continue..this will get that girl to chase you
or If I'm telling a story about how my ex gave me coupons for various sexual favours for Valentines day which she made. True story by the way and one of the girls goes "ewww that is gross". I will say. Whatever....too bad you're not my type and continue with the story.
See always maintain the set
Own the fuckin' set
And when you own the guys the girls will follow one by one
Also when you demonstrate the mentality of "I am here conveying my personality and if you don't like it, go fuck yourself" that is very attractive.
So always maintain your frame guys in set.
Now the purpose of the attract phase is to get the set to reach the:
4. Hook - Yes this is the point where by you have peaked the groups or set's interest so much they do not want you to go. I usually do this with 4-5 killer Stories I have (some real and some made up) and also by IVD's to the group about my knowledge of certain things, facts, geography, places I've been. Also with lone wolves or 2 sets I will hook them by saying "Holy shit your hand...and then go into the palm reading or handstucture routine". They always respond with curiosity and say" What what. tell me". See how they are all NON SEXUAL, I ain't hitting on the girl . Just being an interesting guy to the set, if there are males or other females in there, I have just by having them listen to me, conveyed higher value than the males because I am conrolling their frame , disengaged any fears that I am there to hit on her from the male/females by lowering the self esteem of the target. Remember the real purpose of the neg or value zing is to disqualify yourself "falselY" from appearing like a potential suitor.
NOTE1: Attract phase is only 2-5 minutes. Most guys make the mistake of staying in this phase way too long. They appear like dancing monkeys. Always remember to phase shift guys. So after 2-5 miinutes. You will see interest being generated, then you can test to see if you are in the screening phase by "baiting the girl" so go into the next phase which is.
You can also see if she is attracted by doing certain touch escalation tests and see if she passes (trust test, tention test, sticking out your hand and see if she grabs it)
You can also use verbal baits and see if she will bite. Baits are verbal questions that bait her to provide illusionary input to your screens. Usually if a woman is attracted to you, she will want to jump through your hoops or pass your screens.
Some of the lines I use are:
You are very pretty, but so what, looks is common, it's like winning the lottery in the gene pool, I'm curious about you. What do you have going on for you besides your looks.
If she answers, then I know I am in this phase. If not and she give me a cocky response like "Why do you want to know. or I am not answering that"
You need to then value zing her because you are still in "Attract her" phase and say "Truthfully I was just being polite I really wasn't interested" then stack another story to her peer group.. This will get her chasing you and will create attraction.. Then when you go into screen/accepting her, she will jump through your hoops.
So once she is biting the bait you are in the next phase which is.
5. Screen/Accept or "She needs to attract" phase. So you have dhv'd to her and she gave you IOI, now she needs to attract you.
So you bait her and allow her to DHV to you. You accept with touch or space invading and then release and say "Wait shit. I can't even talk to you now" and do a backturn or look away. She will reinitiate if she is attracted and will start to game you. In fact you need to be switching the screen/chase switch in the attract phase to get her contributing to the sarge and to prevent her circuits from being overkilled by being in reactive zone. You then also do this cycle a few times in the screen phase to make her feel that she is working to win you over and that to make her feel that your IOIs to her have been earned and are legit, not fake. After the 3rd cycle, you finally accept and go into the rapport..comfort and trust stage.where you can state your interest. This phase is signatured with touch escalation, location changing and comfort/rapport building routines.
6. Rapport/Comfort -Involves getting more comfortable with each others touch, closeness, so touch escalation is the key here and comfort building routines.
YOU can then
1. bounce or isolate to another venue
2. or Time bridge to day2.
A few killer routines are:
Evolution phase shift routine to makeout
Grounding your identity to her reality
Role playing
Pair Bonding
Saying to her "I think you've hijacked my brain babe"
etc... Once the comfort building and touch escalation is in progress it will get more intimate, more sexual...until it leads to a
7. Close - A lay, or a timebridge.
NOTE: You will have to deal with LMR often but the more venue changes you make, and the more time you spend with the girl. I believe it is usually like 6-7 hours she will believe that she "got to you emotionally" and you will stick around, not just go in for the kill and leave.
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Comfort Routines are what you should say or do in order to build comfort in your interactions with women. After gaining attraction, you need to build a connection through comfort.
Vibing Framework
Author: Jon King
It seems there are a number of factors that will typically enable an individual to carry on a seemingly endless, engaging, and effortless conversation.
However, when I look back on my experiences, both within mASF and pre, the biggest area within which I think most can improve towards this capability is vibing - ie. knowing which questions to ask, when to ask them, and how to ground and share your own personality and experiences in doing so - on any topic a conversation might lead to.
Before mASF, my improvisational skill in this area was all I had to keep a conversation going. I was an AFC, so rarely got anywhere with it alone, but I could always sustain a good, interesting interaction and maintain interest nonetheless. Sarging over the past year I was surprised to recently notice my vibing skill actually starting to deteriorate - the product, no doubt, of the fallacy that only the girls should be asking the questions, not me; a shrinking perspective from over-relying on the consistently same routines in cold approach time and time again; and my forgetting that so much of PU is truly just about getting to know the girl on a personal level, and letting her do the same with you.
It is therefore no surprise to me that a common issue for guys on mASF is one of stalling or lack or escalation correctly - even when a player is becoming otherwise quite proficient in his game.
I've put together this list together from what stands out of my lifetime of vibing experience, and since doing so, I'm already noticing myself back to better than ever. Questions included in this vibing framework were designed to roughly cover the gamut of almost all typical topics a PUA or any individual, for that matter, might be interested in engaging a target along, including:
- logistics
- ambitions
- priorities in life
- values in terms of friendship, family, and connection
- personality type
- day to day habits
- preferences and abilities in a wide array of areas
- childhood and formative experiences
- romantic and sexual triggers
To the vibing illiterate, I can't say this clearly enough - THE QUESTIONS BELOW ARE NOT ENOUGH TO GET MUCH DONE BY THEMSELVES. Vibing means sharing of the conversational load, not a Q&A session. What provides the potential for making each question interesting are:
1) her answers
2) your replies to those answers
3) the stories you then choose to tell
4) the topics you then segue into from each inquiry
To better investigate her answers, which may be sparse at times, for all question on the list, natural follow ups to elicit greater responses are always those along the lines of:
- Why is that?
- What are your thoughts on X?
- How does that make you feel?
- What is it about X you enjoy/dislike?
- If you could change X or have it differently, what might you prefer? Why?
If you want a full picture of how this sort of thing plays out, as you read, imagine any number/variations of these and your interspersed comments being applied to each question.
As far as your responses go, they should range from negs to busts to commonality/vulnerability sharing stories. Stay flexible. Your comments and replies should depend on what you calibrate will provide the best boost in BT while still remaining congruent with who you are and conveying what you would like to project about yourself. Feeling conflicted? Don't. Consider: Like a willow tree that sways so greatly in the wind, yet maintains among the deepest and strongest roots of all trees, so too can you bend and adapt while keeping firmly in tact your personal integrity. It all just takes some finesse.
Most people are familiar with the 6 degrees of separation. The same premise applies for segueing. No matter what subject you are on, if you are familiar enough with your topics, it should be easy enough to change gears or phase shift with the right questions and anecdotes.
Calibrate and escalate.
To anyone seeking to tighten their vibing, I strongly recommend copying and pasting the questions below out and then writing personal answers and stories for each (I've deleted mine for privacy). Consider how they link. You can havefull control over pre-mapping steps #2-4 well in advance.
If you do, the next time a given topic comes up, you may notice you have a lot more to say and are far more capable of eliciting better emotional responses and continued, more connected interaction. Doing so can easily provide the requisite suggested 7 hours of material, or literally hundreds of hours if you felt so inclined to reach even deeper.
The subheadings are loose, and, although they roughly follow some pattern of escalation, there is no set order. This is where your calibration and experience again come into play.
Where do you live? How far? With parents, friends, roommates?
How old are you?
Goals and Hobbies
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Do you have any hobbies? (If no, "what do you do in your spare time then?" if they have no spare time, next them.... they've got no time for you either)
Who do you spend the most time with?
What do you like doing more than anything? Like if you could be paid to do anything in the world (including professional couch potato or cake eater or whatever), what would it be?
If you could be anyone or do anything in the world for one day, what would it be?
What's the best/worst job you've ever had?
Are you rich? Do you plan to be? I've been looking for a good sugar momma to take care of me.
What's your proudest accomplishment?
What's matters most to you - friends, family, career, or guys?
Win lottery, what spend it on?
Is money important?
If you died today what would you miss most? What would you be saddest about not being able to do in the future?
What kind of crowd do you hang out with these days? What are your friends like?
Do you keep friends for long? Are you still close with high school / university friends?
Do you have a best friend? How long have you known her?
What's important for you for someone to be a good friend?
Personality typing
In a word, what would you describe yourself with? How do you think your friends would describe you?
If they bottled your personality what would it be called?
A new law says you have to change your name to match your personality. What shall we call you from now on?
If you were to be any animal what would you be and why?
Are you the 'adventurous type'?
How often do you do new things or make plans and follow through on them?
If you were going to change your name, what would you make it?
When's/what's the most you've ever driven over the speed limit?
What female celebrity would you most like to be? Which do you relate most to and why? If they made a movie of your life, who would you want as the lead?
Who do you relate more to - Betty or Veronica? Which are you after - Archie, Reggie, or Jughead?
If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
Do you tend to favour change and variety or reliable consistency?
What do you live your life by - what's your motto?
On the bumper sticker of your life, it would say, "honk if you're (a) ___"
If your life was a movie, what would it be rated? What genre?
If you were in a Western, on your "WANTED" poster, what would be your crime?
If you could have one magical power, what would it be and how would you use it?
What in life do you fear? Not including silly phobias, like re: 50 years from now what do you think of?
What do you think most about / matters to you most - the past, present, or future?
Swimming in a cold pool - do you wade/creep in slowly, or jump? What about bandaids - fast or bit by bit?
This glass - half empty or full? (drink it)
Are you a giver or a taker?
What do you think life would have been like if you were a guy? What would you like most/least about being the opposite sex?
Day to day
Shower or bath? Cold or hot; long or short?
Morning or night?
On average, how late do you run?
Alarm clock - how many snoozes a day?
Sleeping - Snorer? Flailer/Thrasher? Nightlight? Smotherer? Sleep walker? Midnight snacker?
Would your roommates more describe you as a neat freak / germophobe or a bit on the sloppy side?
Do you like to drive? Worst offence / horror story?
Phobias? Spiders, millipedes? Snakes? Planes?
What do you get like when you're inebriated?
When was the first time you got really hammered?
Favourite drink?
Weed? Hard drugs?
Have you ever been thrown out of any bars for 'disorderly conduct'?
Who holds your hair back when you've had a few too many?
What was the closest you ever came to being arrested?
What are some of your favourite clubs? Do you have any good connections?
What's the craziest party you've ever been to and what happened?
Do you cook? What's your best dish? KD doesn't count.
What's the primary staple of your diet?
What's your worst temptation? Like your kryptonite of food?
If you could have anything right now what would it be?
Chocolate or vanilla?
Salty or sweet?
Vegan, vegetarian, or organic?
Favourite season?
Nature lover? Hikes?
Favourite holiday? Christmas and family - big deal? Halloween and what wear? Wildest New Year's?
Have you ever broken any bones?
Have you ever needed stitches?
What's the most daring stunt you've ever pulled? Sky diving?
When's the last time you went on a good roller coaster and felt your stomach just drop out beneath you?
What's your favourite kind of music?
What's your favourite CD?
What's the last concert you saw?
What's the most embarrassing CD you've ever owned?
Did you ever play a musical instrument? Well?
What genre of movies? Scariest movie you've seen?
Favourite place to shop?
If you were granted unlimited funds, what would you splurge on?
Do you get buyer's remorse?
What's the scariest single thing in your closet?
What's your favourite item of clothing?
Are you one of those girls that needs an entire closet for her shoes because she has 80 pairs? Are you one of those girls that wants to need an entire closet for her shoes because she WISHES she had 80 pairs?
What's your most embarrassing HAIRSTYLE you've ever had? When did you sport? What did it look like?
Tattoos, piercings, or neither?
What do you like your style to project about you as a person?
Which of your relatives are you closest with? Who understands you the most/best? Who do you miss the most when you go away? When did you miss them most?
If you weren't feeling well, who would be there to take care of you?
What sort of role do you play in your family?
Who's the strict one in your family? Who helps you slip everything by?
Who in your family would you most like to be closer to?
Who's the annoying one? ie. On your family trips, who's the first to say "Are we there yet?" or start poking people?
Who's your funniest relative?
What's your family like at get togethers?
If you were / could be a sitcom family, which would you be in?
How far back can you trace your roots/ancestors?
Do you like little kids?
Siblings? What were the worst and best things about having them around?
Are you an animal lover? Not that kind of loving. Geez. What country do we live in?
What's the first pet you ever had? What was the weirdest pet you ever owned? Most affectionate pet?
Dogs or cats?
What were you like as a kid?
Were you a troublemaker? I bet you tried to be totally badass.
Were you more likely to get dirty in the mud or host a dainty tea party? Tomboy or priss?
Which one - teddy bears or dolls? Did you have a favourite? What was its name? What did he/she look like? Do you still have him/her today?
What childhood toy do you most wish you could get back?
What were you most likely to run around the house pretending to be?
Did you ever belong to a clubhouse (like 'girls only')?
Video games? Even when you were a kid? Extra points if it was NES … Duck Hunt?
What summer camp did you go to or what did you do with your summers as a kid?
You know that nursery rhyme thing - "this little piggy went to market .." How did that go? I don't know how but I can't remember… Do itsy bitsy spider on arm
Do you remember your tongue twisters? What's the hardest one you learned? You know there are advantages to having that kind of oral dexterity. I mean you can speak better of course. 5 times fast.
Did you clown around a lot? What's the goofiest face you can make?
Growing up
What was your most 'awkward' ie. geekiest age and why?
If you could go back in time what advice would you give yourself? / what would you tell yourself?
Do you remember your first school dances?
What's the worst you ever cheated in school?
How have you changed most since you were a kid?
How have you changed most in the last five years?
Were girls ever attracted to cartoon characters growing up? What about GI Joe? Jessica Rabbit and/or Holly Wood from Cool World - too much stimulation for a 10 year old boy
Do you believe in ESP?
Do you read your horoscope?
Have you ever seen a psychic? Had a tarot/palm reading?
Faith, life, and death
Are you religious, spiritual, or both/neither?
Do you ever wonder what happens after it all?
What's the closest you ever came to dying?
Do you ever consider that it could all be over, or things could change, in a heartbeat just about any minute of any day?
Travel/ worldliness
What's the best place you've ever been?
If you were to live anywhere else in the world, where would you go?
What's the longest road trip you've ever been on?
Would you describe yourself as the romantic type?
Who was the first boy you ever had a crush on?
Have you ever been in love, like the big one - with a capital L? How did you know it?
Have you ever just met someone and yet somehow, felt almost like you've known them your whole life? Like it's just that easy to relate to them?
What's the 1st signal, the 1st recognition you get for yourself on the inside when you know you're really, .. really .. attracted to someone?
What's your idea of a dream date? Describe your dream romantic get-away.
Have you ever prepared a candlelight dinner?
Have you ever had/made breakfast in bed?
Have you ever picked up a guy before? Do you think you could? Would you? Show me your best moves.
What's something nice your exes might say about you? Something not so nice?
Her kind of guys
What kind of guys do you usually go for?
Who is your favourite celebrity? Which celebrity have you had a secret crush on?
In the movie of your life, who would play love interest? Who would play you?
If your perfect guy was an ice cream, what would he be called? Would you feel the need for sprinkles?
Who was your favourite Backstreet Boy? Or was he in N Sync? New Kids?
Who would you most like to be stuck in elevator with for 15 minutes? | Who's shower curtain would you most like to be? | If it was your birthday, who would you most like to see jump out of your cake? (follow up to the last three is "and don't say me - we just met.")
Have you ever bought a guy flowers before? What have you bought?
What does your family think about your taste? Do you care?
Do you think Jesus would have been good in bed?
What was your first kiss like?
On a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate yourself as a kisser?
Do Spanish/whatever girls' lips sweet or bitter? Etc. Shall we find out?
Would you like to kiss me?
Feathers or ice?
What's the sexiest food for a date?
What's your favourite body part? On you, not on me. I already KNOW that one …
Do you have a secret erogenous zone? Ears? Knees? Thighs?
Do you give good massages? Anyone can SAY they do. Show me some.
What's the sexiest piece of clothing you own?
Have you ever been to a strip joint? Male or female? Did you get a lap dance?
If the world turned upside down and you decided you were going to dance at one, what song would you pick? What name would you use?
What do you find the sexiest job for a guy to have?
Thong, g string, or granny panties?
What do you think about the male body hair? Shave, wax, or trim? What about female? EVERYwhere..?
What's the most exciting place you've hooked up with a guy? Where would you most fantasize about doing so in the future?
Imagine a flowing moving body of water, like a stream or a river. Is it fast or slow? Is it choppy and rough or gentle and smooth? (4 questions)
Dominant or submissive?
In your experience, is sex a good time for conversation? Vocal or quiet? Dirty talk, small talk, or none at all?
Have you ever had a one-night stand?
Jon King
Boyfriending Technique
Author: John Alexander
I'm going to reveal an important comfort-building technique I call "Boyfriending." In a nutshell, there's something you can do that's usually done ONLY by a woman's boyfriend.
If you do it too, it's a way of getting under a woman's radar and making her comfortable enough around you so that she'll be receptive to sex without making you wait.
You see, in order for a typical woman to have sex with a man, she must have feelings of comfort. It is not enough for her to simply feel attraction for the guy.
Let's say you meet a girl at a 5 PM happy hour. The two of you hit it off, having a great conversation. She's laughing. She's interested. You entrance her by telling her fascinating stories about your life. The two of you have good rapport.
Around 7:30, you get hungry and invite her to get something to eat. Dinner goes well too. Then dinner ends. Now what?
Around this time, a lot of guys get confused about how to advance the interaction forward. Clearly the goal is to get laid, but the roadmap is often muddled.
Usually the night ends with the woman saying something like, "I had great time meeting you. Call me. Bye!"
Often, the need for comfort is why women like to make guys wait before sex.
(If the guy's lucky, it might be only three dates, but with a lot of women, the guy can be made to wait for months.)
Fortunately, there's a way to shortcircuit that barrier. I call it the "Boyfriending Technique."
If you watch couples who are in close relationships, you'll notice an interesting phenomenon. The man and woman are extremely comfortable touching each other, so much so that they'll even do seemingly gross things like brush sleep ("eye boogers") out of each other's eyes.
It's a behavior that's only done by people who are completely comfortable around each other. Certainly when you are in a relationship where you can brush sleep out of a woman's eye, you've long since passed the point where the two of you are comfortable having sex.
Catch my drift? You can use this as a psychological weapon to make the woman feel more comfortable around you.
In mid-conversation, tell her to hold still and close her eyes. Pretend there's sleep in her eye, and make her believe that you just brushed it off.
Later, after the two of you finish eating and leave the restaurant, again tell her to hold still. With your finger, brush off an imaginary piece of food from her lower lip.
The net result of the Boyfriending Technique is nuclear. First, it sub-communicates that the two of you are very comfortable around each other.
Second, it involves you touching her face, bringing your heads closer together and progressing towards a make out session.
Third, in the case of you touching her lower lip, you're in fact touching an erogenous zone. That's right... a woman's lower lip has a high concentration of nerve endings. Stimulating her lower lip makes her body release sex hormones.
Make the Boyfriending Technique a part of your dating arsenal, and you'll find more success than ever before. You may just be having sex within several hours instead of having to wait several months.
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Deep Rapport Builder
Author: IN10SE
This is a rapport builder as well as an opportunity for anchoring for those of you that do this. In addition, it really shows that you GET IT, when it comes to "relationships", when a chick brings it up.
I had to come up with a good response on the fly when a few of the gals I have been out with lately have asked me what I'M looking for in a "relationship". I normally don't like to bring up the "R" word, but when a gal brings it up, you have to have a good reply... one that will show them that you are intelligent, that you have it together, that you are sophisticated, and that there is more to you than meets the eye.
Now the context of using this is that I have only used it with gals in a casual environment, (a bookstore, coffeeshops, restaurant). Haven't tried it in clubs nor do I think it would work in a club setting. This is for when you are alone, having one of those one on one, deep rapport conversations, as a prelude to (a few steps before) the full close. Here was my response... and everytime I've used it so far, it has gotten deep levels of rapport (it became about them seducing ME) as well as broken down any resistance...
As far as anchoring, when I've done this, I used sugar packets once, and I used my fingers (pointing to them) the other times.
(You may want to read the theme itself before reading about the anchoring part next so that it will make more sense)
Actually using my fingers as an anchor was kind of a subtle sexual signal, because I would put my 3 right hand fingers up (one finger for each value, as if counting), and point to them with my left index finger and then when I would do each of the "2 values without the 1", I would form a "ring" with my thumb and index finger of my left hand that would encircle the two fingers of the other hand... and as I talked I subtly slid my encircling hand up and down over my fingers. (first each of the 2 together and then the 3 all together at the end)
I actually did this without thinking about it consciously at first, then I wondered why the chick I was talking to got all flushed and started breathing heavy as I was moving my left hand index/thumb "ring" up and down the "shafts" of the fingers of my right hand. Anyway, here it is...
Begin Theme
"I have a new theory about all relationships and what makes up the ideal one.
First of all you need Passion. This is where you have a physical chemistry with this person, where you feel drawn to this person that you're with, you may even feel a warm feeling right here in your stomach and maybe it spreads all over your body when your with this person… where you can lose track of time and give yourself completely to this experience…
Next you need Intimacy. This is where you feel an emotional connection with this person, like you've known them before, and like you were always meant to know this person… like this was meant to be and where you feel completely comfortable and close… and you may feel it right here in your heart…
Then you need Commitment. Philosophers have called this a sense of "duty"… where you feel secure, knowing that this is someone that is here for you, that we both choose to be together… and this is someone that you can see yourself with now and in the future…
Now, all relationships are based on varying degrees of each one of these elements.
For example if you have just passion, but no intimacy or commitment, then that would be like just physical infatuation. Like a one night stand or something… nothing more, nothing less…
If you have just intimacy, but no passion or commitment, then that would be just friendship. And we all have those…
If you have just commitment, but no passion or intimacy, then that would be an empty relationship. Like a lot of married people out there… so sad.
Then you can have passion and intimacy, but no commitment. This is like a "Romantic affair"… and maybe the knowledge that it is something that's now or never… or that you have no guarantees about, makes the passion and intimacy even more intense…
And you can have passion and commitment, but no intimacy. That is like people who stay together because they really like the sex.
And you can have intimacy and commitment but no passion. That would be like grandma and grandpa who are together for companionship, but cant remember the last time they did it.
And of course the ideal, as with all things… is about balance, where you can have just the right amount of passion, just the right amount of intimacy, and just the right amount of commitment… well… now that I think about it, an extra little bit more passion would be nice… what do you think?"
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Eliciting Values Routine
Author: Neil Strauss
I've successfully used it at the end of attraction phase as I'm shifting into comfort and trust. It allows you to get to know them, captures and leads their imagination, and makes them laugh. Below is the routine quoted from one of Tyler Durden 's posts.
-what is the experience you most enjoy doing? (she'll say dancing or being with family or something)
-what is the ideal scenario of you doing that thing. descrive it..
-so picturing that RIGHT NOW, how do you feel.. what emotions?
-"so really then, while I was asking you this, you smiled.. and yeah its kind of because I'm being a bit funny or weird or whatever.. but also, its because you could kind of feel that emotion right now, while we were talking about it.. can you feel it.. blah blah"
-so really then, even though your favourite experience is dancing, your core value is fun and excitement.. So what's most important to you is the experience of fun and excitement, and whatever leads you to that is most important.. blah blah
-OK, so in 4 minutes we've fulfilled your quest for core value. You can die now.
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
Closing Routines are used for getting what you originally wanted when you first decided to approach a person. This could be a phone number, arranging to meet again, a kiss and more.
Three Minute Closes
Author: David DeAngelo
How To Get A Woman's Phone Number And Email Address Within Three Minutes Of Meeting Her
By David DeAngelo
Let me start off by telling you something interesting:
I've personally stopped focusing on just getting phone numbers. I've found that EMAIL addresses are far better (I still get the phone number too, of course).
Let me explain.
I perfected the art of getting phone numbers a couple of years ago.
If a woman is single, I can walk up to her and get her number in about a minute or two (if I'm in a hurry). I found out later, after working like a mad scientist on this that GETTING PHONE NUMBERS ALONE DOESN'T EQUAL SUCCESS.
You see, women have many different reasons for giving out their phone numbers. Some love the attention of having a lot of men call them. Some like to turn guys down. Some are actually interested. But the universal feedback that I get from men, and in my personal experience, women act different on the phone than they do in person.
When you call a woman for the first time, she'll often start acting stand offish or even worse, just plain rude. It's almost like she's a different person than the one you met.
I've found that getting an EMAIL address is not only easier, but it gets more positive responses later on. It's almost as if women appreciate it that you've taken the time to think about what you're going to say when you write an email to them, and they think of you more like someone they know.
The other benefit of email is that it can be written and answered anytime.
If you call, you have to actually reach them. But an email can be answered anytime. And I've found that emails are answered FAR more often than voicemail messages.
After I've talked to a woman for about 3 or 4 minutes, I'll often say something like "Well, it was nice meeting you. I'm going to get back to my friends."
They usually don't know what to do, as they're used to guys clinging to them. Most of the time, they say "It was nice meeting you too..." Then, just as I'm turning to walk away, and we kind of disconnect, I turn back and say "HEY! Do you have email?"
The "HEY!" is a bit surprising, and "Do you have email" is non-threatening. In fact, I'm technically asking her if she HAS email, not if she'll GIVE IT TO ME.
If she says "yes," I take out a pen and paper and say "Great, write it down for me" and I have her write it down. (This is great, as I just treat the 'yes' that they give me as a yes to get it from them as well. And they've almost ALL gone along with it so far) Then AS SHE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF WRITING, I say "Write your number down there too."
When you ask for email, it's very low risk for a woman, so she'll think "Fine, I'll do that." Most women will give out an email address without thinking about it, because they know that they can choose later to just not answer.
The magic of asking them to write their phone number down WHILE they're in the middle of writing down their email is all about the psychology of human behavior.
She's already mentally said "OK, I'll give you my email address"... and she's in the middle of writing it down. When you say "And just write your number down there too" it's only NATURAL to just write it.
In other words, it's a MUCH smaller step than giving out the phone number all by itself. It took me a LONG time to figure out this simple move, but it works like magic! You will have women writing their phone numbers down without even thinking twice.
Here's a great add-on to make sure you're getting a real phone number and not a pager or voicemail:
As she's writing down her phone number I say "Is this a number that you actually answer?" If she looks at me and hesitates, or says that it's her "voicemail or pager number," then I say "Look, write your real number down. It's going to be OK, I'll only call you nine times a day..." They laugh and usually give me their real number.
Now, if she answers my first question and says "No, I don't have email" then I bust on them and say "Well, do you have electricity?" This is a GREAT opportunity to use humor.
Then I say "Well, OK then. I like email better, but I'll take your regular phone number. It's so damn hard to reach people on the phone these days."
Just realize that all you have to do is ask.
Like I said, I've tried all kinds of things. And I've gotten hundreds of phone numbers. And I use this exact sequence every time I talk to a woman and I want to get her phone number. I've gotten to the point where I can often do this in a minute or two - no kidding!
Now that you know the sequence, write it down with the words and the steps, and rehearse it in your mind over and over until you know exactly what to say for each step and each response.
Many guys have asked me "But what do I tell her as a reason why I want her number or email?" I've never had a woman ask me. If you ask, and they give it, then she knows why you asked. If she doesn't give it to you, then she also knew why you asked.
Just assume that this is the case.
If you ask every time, and you do it in a smooth, assuming, calm way, you'll get a lot of emails and phone numbers.
Note: Carry a pen on you at all times. I prefer the Fisher Space Pen (chrome) because it's small, classy, and women love it!
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One Minute Number Closing
Author: Sebastian Drake
I'm smiling over here from ear to ear. I just finished working with a student earlier today, and I taught him very fast approaches and got him doing them with some success. I hope he builds on it and becomes really good at it, but I do find it a little funny to come home and see this question in my inbox. :)
Anyway, it's not all that difficult. The basic format goes something like this:
"My God... I wish I had time to talk to you. You're so beautiful and classy... but I've got to go meet my friends."
I smile sadly, and let her reply. She almost always thanks me very much, some of them start completely and totally glowing.
I let her say whatever, then I go:
"Tell you what: Let me grab your number and I'll give you a ring later. If we get along on the phone, maybe we'll go hang sometime."
Really high close rate. Actually, it's easier to kiss them once on the lips after this one than it is after slightly longer sets sometimes (or so it seems to me: Maybe I just play quick numbers a lot harder).
These numbers really are quite decent. I've slept with girls off of them. One girl, in a city I don't get up to much, I got her number when Woodhaven and I were practically running out of a train station.
This was like a year ago, but I never make it out to see her. I've only talked to her five or six times for a while since then, but she remembers me *every time*. She invited me over to her place at one point, but I wasn't in town. In fact, when I call her, sometimes she calls back. And this a very, very beautiful girl, man. I don't even bother doing this if I'm in a hurry with a girl who isn't really beautiful.
So there's that. I recommend substituting what you like about her and what you're doing for my example. "My God... I wish I had time to talk to you. You're so [what you like about her]... but I've got to go [do what you're in a hurry for]." Pause, let her reply. "Tell you what: Let me grab your number and I'll give you a ring later. If we get along on the phone, maybe we'll go hang sometime."
Flaking isn't a problem. These numbers are *always* real (occasionally she'll say she's flattered, but can't because she has a boyfriend: but I've never gotten a fake number like this). You DO have to talk to her before you ask her to go hang out. You need to get to know her a little, see if she's actually cool, etc. But they're good numbers.
I'd recommend Woodhaven's post "The Transition to Natural Game" for more on this. He says one of the things that inspired him to come up with the Contintuous Flow of Action concept was how fast I could get good numbers... totally not in line with some ASF dogma.
Don't worry about getting 20 minutes. You need to smooth, confident, and cool, and strike a good impression. But to make an example: If Brad Pitt were to walk up to a woman and say, "Wow, I really like your look, but I don't have time to talk to you right now. Let me grab your number and maybe we'll talk later", would she hmm and haww?
If you're not Brad Pitt, that's okay: You can become very attractive yourself, by working your bodylanguage, speaking patterns, style, and so on. The drive behind getting a quick number is not the actual words: Though the words are pretty close to optimal, they don't do much without the right attitudes and the external manifestations of those attitudes.
Sebastian Drake
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How To Get A Girls Number
Author: Richard La Ruina
Most men will find that getting a woman's phone number is an arduous task. They will not know when to ask, for example, or be fearful of risking rejection. Even after having got a girl's number it can be difficult converting this into a second meeting or date.
Conversation Leading To A Number Close
One key mistake most men make is making small talk with a woman and then just suddenly asking for her number. This is definitely the wrong approach. A connection may (though normally is not) be made exchanging small talk with a girl but it takes a lot longer to do so. Instead, you must constantly steer the direction of the conversation towards your goal. Such a conversation will need to be based around building a connection with a girl and common interests you share.
Examples of questions aimed at establishing a connection with a girl or sharing common interest:
• What does she like to do when not at the office? How does she spend her free time?
• What foods does she like? What places does she like to go to in the evenings? Is she a party girl? Does she like the arts? What is something she would like to do but hasn't yet (e.g. salsa classes)?
There are ways of asking questions that establish common interests and help build a connection. There are literally hundreds so come up with some tailored for you.
Taking two polarised examples, here is how to lead into a number close from a general conversation:
You: What places do you like to go in the evening?
Her: I like club/bar X.
You: Cool, its good there, have you ever been to club Y?
Her: Yes/No
You: Well me and some friends are going there on X day, you should come along.
Her: OK
You: Excellent, what's your number*.
Or perhaps:
You: What do you like to do when you aren't working?
Her: I like to go to the theatre/exhibitions/museums/ballet.
You: Have you been to that new show/exhibition etc.?
Her: No
You: Me neither, we should go
Her: OK
You: Great, give me your number*
*You never ask outright for a number, it should flow naturally, and the close should be assumed.
But how about if you cannot find a connection or common interest, do not have the time to, or do not have a conversation that bares any resemblance at all to the examples?
Then deploy the universal:
You: You're cool/It was interesting talking to you, we should hang out sometime.
Her: Yeah.
You: *handing her your phone* What are you doing on Thursday? **
Most men will find that having got a girl's number, nothing in the form of a second meeting or date materialises- in other words, the girls flakes.
How To Minimise 'Flakeage'
Ensure that you enter your number in her phone too. Have a connection or something you can do together as described above. And most importantly: **arrange a date there and then. This means that she can be expecting your call and is more likely then to pick up if she has something to look forward to. The above tips should go some way to ensuring all good interactions end in solid number closes.
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Mystery's Classic Kiss Close
Author: Mystery
You ask, "Would you like to kiss me?
If she says yes, kiss her.
If she says, "Maybe," ''Why?", "What do you mean" or "I donno" it means she does, but is shy about it. Reply with a gleam in your eye, "Let's find out..." *kiss*
Remember to caress the back of her neck to show you mean business.
If she says no, you reply, "Well I didn't say you could, it just looked like you had something on your mind." (Don't ask "Why not?" This shows low self-esteem.)
If she says, "not yet" or "not here" it means she is open to it but there is a logistical issue. Perhaps her friends are nearby, or she needs more gaming first. Say, "I understand," and continue gaming her.
Does it seem as if most of these lines involve asking her for permission in order to kiss her? Is that wimpy? They are just considerations. We've found that just going for the kiss without indicating your intentions can sometimes lead to embarrassment — more than her saying just saying no.
When she says no, that is much easier to save face from than the situation where you try to kiss her and she moves away.
That having been said, feel free to field-test every possible kiss move that you can think of. Just go right in for the kiss without saying a word. If she turns her head, use your hand to turn it back and kiss her anyway. Test it out a hundred times. Be enthusiastically willing to brainstorm and experiment.
Kiss Tactic
Author: Neil Strauss
When sitting arm in arm with your target, lean in and smell her hair and say "you smell so fucking good, I'm trying so hard not to kiss you right now…."
Then, push her off you and say "now get off me". At this point so a slight freeze out/IOD and wait for her to give you an IOI. If you did everything correctly up to this point, she will give you an IOI by re-initiating kino with you. After she does, lean in and kiss her
You'll know that she is ready to be kissed after she IOI's you, because you verbalized that you wanted to kiss her, and her IOI'ing you is a way of accepting that verbalization.
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
The Diamond Between Your Legs
Author: Cortez
Whenever a woman gives me a problem about sleeping together I simply tell her:
"The diamond between your legs is not something I want to steal from you… It's just something I want to get through before we move on more interesting things."
Girls are afraid to sleep with a guy too fast or too soon, as they will look easy, like sluts. They also grow up in a society that tells them, when they give their pussy to a guy, there is nothing else they can give to him. Society unconsciously puts all value on their sex organs and beauty. Once you cross that point, they feel they have nothing to offer. No more value. She is afraid that, once she gives sex to a man, he won't come back, as that's everything she could give him.
Its sad, that whenever you talk with girl, she assumes (thanks to society) you want to sleep with her. I mean, the morning after, you still need to talk, to have fun in your life and you can still enjoy and learn about each other… Its not just about sex.
So think about the sentence above. Take a moment, and think about it.
What you are actually saying to a girl, is exactly what she wants to hear. It's not about sex, its about you being together, having fun in the long run and sex is just a step along the way that people make a big deal out of…
A big percentage of sexual resistance is exactly this — she's afraid that's all you want and there won't be anything else. So it's smart to address the issue directly before it becomes a big problem. I prefer to say it directly than to bullshit around it and play games…
"The diamond between your legs is not something I want to steal from you. It's just something I want to get through before we move on to more interesting things."
I dare you to use it.
Kissing Grade Close
Author: Swinggcat
You: Are you adventurous? Are you spontaneous? If you were in kissing school, what grade would your kissing teacher give you? (get her answer)
You: "Let's find out." (kiss her)
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Note from NightVision : For this close to work smoothly you would have already established yourself as the prize. The questions about adventurous and spontaneous is like screening questions for her to jump through. You are qualifying her, and if you have maintained the frame that you are the prize, she would say yes to those questions. If she pulls away from you from the kiss after having said yes (which rarely happens if you have set the frame up properly), bust on her for not being adventurous and spontaneous. Use push pull.
Dual Induction Massage
Author: Neil Strauss
Some of you may have pieced this together already from Jlaix and Chessclub's FRs, but here, for the archives and for posterity, is the step-by-step Dual Induction Massage Sure-Fire Threesome Routine, with credit given where credit is due.
This to me is the biggest breakthrough I've had in the last year. Once you cross this barrier (as Jlaix knows), there's no going back. It changes your whole PU life. No longer are you going out trying to just get a LR, but to bring two of the right women together for a dual induction massage. This all began one night at the ProHo mansion, when an FB was over and an MLTR did a drop-by. I was in Herbal 's room, sitting there with them both vibing each other, trying to figure out what to do. I went outside and talked to Mystery , and asked him which girl I should get rid of.
Fortunately, Mystery had just been at David D's DYD seminar. And a gentleman there had talked about getting threesomes by having two girls massage him at the same time. We looked into Herbal 's room, at the two of them talking, and Mystery suggested a couple tactics. I decided, what the fuck, I had nothing to lose.
I took them both up to my room to watch a fun home video clips that I was in. We all lay on the bed, and watched it.
So, here are the steps, once you have them on your bed. Of course, make sure the lights are low and the mood is romantic and comfortable, without being an obvious seduction/plan.
STEP ONE: Tell them, genuinely, "I just experienced the most amazing thing. I went to San Diego and hung out with my friend Steve, who's like a guru and a shaman, and an amazing guy. And he had two of his students perform a dual induction massage on me. Their hands were moving in perfect synchronization on me, and because your conscious mind can't follow all those movements, it just disconnects and you feel like there are thousands of hands on you. It was amazing."
[This is true: It was an amazing gift from Steve P., one of the really great and powerful guys I've met through this community.]
Now, ideally, the HB getting the massage should be the one who would get the most jealous. She needs to get the attention first to feel comfortable. Also, to make sure this goes smoothly, it's best if this is someone you've *closed or !closed before. It's best to leave her shirt ON, and just do it over the shirt.
Next, tell the HB who's doing the massaging that she must follow your hand movements exactly and move in exact synchronization. (I'd recommend taking a seminar in Swedish massage to learn how to do a nice backrub; if you're in NY, try the Open Center; anywhere else, just do a Learning Annex course.)
STEP TWO: Next, say it's your turn. Take off your shirt, and lie on your stomach. And definitely show appreciation for what they are doing.
STEP THREE: Afterward, say that it's the third girl's turn. Help her out of her shirt, or ask her to take off her shit while she's facing away from you (if she's shy), and have her lie on her stomach.
On this girl, you can make the massage more erotic. Go around the breasts and butt and thighs, WITHOUT actually touching any private parts.
STEP FOUR: Now this is the key move. After you finish the massage, let her lay there on her stomach underneath you and the other girl. Pause a moment to build up a touch of tension, then start making out passionately with the other girl (the one who was just doing the massaging with you) over the back of the girl lying down.
Now, just gently turn the face of the girl lying down towards you. Kiss her. Then gently take the head of the other girl and bring it DOWN to the face of the girl lying on her stomach. If you've created the mood properly, they'll just automatically start kissing. Join in for a threeway makeout, and it's all over.
YOU have to be a conductor, and orchestrate everything. Turn over the girl who was being massaged last, and each take a breast. Then switch off girls. Then roll away and watch them go at it. Then get back in there and help them remove some clothes. Etc. Etc.
However, this can NOT be about your pleasure. In the majority of cases, you are providing an excuse for the girls to get together. So if one of the girls is an MLTR or primary or main FB, make sure that it's all about HER pleasure. You need to calibrate the comfort level of each girl the whole time. If you start trying to be a porn star too quickly or making it all about you (or making it too explicit where the massage is heading), this could backfire. That said, since I first figured it out (with respect to Mystery and Steve P), it hasn't failed once. (Though there have been occasions where the energy wasn't right to go into this dual induction massage.)
Neil Strauss
Neil Strauss aka Style author of The Game which follows his development from a guy who was hopeless with women to become one of the greatest pick up artist in the seduction community. His book gave many men hope that they could do the same and hence learn how to become irresistible to women. He started learning pick up with the mystery method.
Dealing with Obstacles
discusses the obstacles that we encounter during picking up and seducing women. This could be that she has a boyfriend, her friends are obstructing you (known as cock blocking), or even that another guy is trying his luck.
She Says Too Young Too Old
Author: Swinggcat
Whether a woman thinks I'm too young or too old for her doesn't matter to me one bit because...
Years ago a friend of mine taught me a few short words that not only circumvent the objection but also... generate massive attraction inside women.
He was in his mid thirties yet had a penchant for really young girls: We're talkin' late teens to early twenties.
But as soon as he started flirting with a girl she'd chirp, "Dude, how old are you? You must be my dad's age."
So he racked his brain and came up with something that's not only pure genius but also... fall-on-the-floor hilarious.
If a twenty-one year old girl objected to his age, he'd say...
"Did you know girls age faster than guys? Take models, for example. They peak at like seventeen. By the time they're nineteen they've passed their prime. They're middle aged. You're twenty-one, making you sixty-three in girl years"
When a woman told me that I was too young for her, I'd say this exact line but add...
"You're practically a senior citizen... Don't take this the wrong way but I'm an active guy and don't think you could handle me with your cane and all... I should introduce you to my grandmother, I think she's more your speed."
Do you know why this generates attraction in 90.2% of women?
Here's a quick explanation...
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What To Do If Women Tells You "Your Not My Type"
Author: Swinggcat
Admit it...
A woman letting a man know he's not her type is so common it's almost cliché....and when it happens to you - it sucks. It can feel like you've hit a brick wall
But, honest to God, there are some men who revel in women barking at them with, "You're not my type."
It puts a big shi*t eating grin on their face because...
They possess the secret to mutating this comment from a woman into massive attraction inside her body.
I should know. I'm one of these men.
In a minute I'm gonna let you in on this secret method that less than 98.4 % of the male population knows about, giving you an unfair advantage over others. It works so well it's almost embarrassing.
But first I want to share a story with you a guy sent into me...
"Hi Swinggcat, I have a question about something that happened to my friend while he initiated a chat with a woman inside a bus. She might have been in a slightly bad mood or tired as she answered his questions in a disinterested way and within two minutes of the chat she rejected him to his face saying 'you are too young for me'. I was just wondering if there's a solution for these kinds of situation in your book where it is possible to turn a rejection into attraction. Plz reply asap."
- K from NY
All I have to say is: Déjà vu. This reminds me of the same problem I used to have. Everything would be going fine until the women inevitably sneered, "How old are you, twelve?"
I wasn't annoyed; I was seething with frustration.
I even had one woman ask me for age verification before we... well, that's a story I'll save for another day.
But, my friend, the pendulum has swung the other way: Many women I meet think I'm a modest decade their senior.
Maybe it's age beginning to march across my face or too many sleepless nights?
Whether a woman thinks I'm too young or too old for her doesn't matter to me one bit because...
Years ago a friend of mine taught me a few short words that not only circumvent the objection but also... generate massive attraction inside women.
He was in his mid thirties yet had a penchant for really young girls: We're talkin' late teens to early twenties.
But as soon as he started flirting with a girl she'd chirp, "Dude, how old are you? You must be my dad's age."
So he racked his brain and came up with something that's not only pure genius but also... fall-on-the-floor hilarious.
If a twenty-one year old girl objected to his age, he'd say...
"Did you know girls age faster than guys? Take models, for example. They peak at like seventeen. By the time they're nineteen they've passed their prime. They're middle aged. You're twenty-one, making you sixty-three in girl years"
When a woman told me that I was too young for her, I'd say this exact line but add...
"You're practically a senior citizen... Don't take this the wrong way but I'm an active guy and don't think you could handle me with your cane and all... I should introduce you to my grandmother, I think she's more your speed."
Do you know why this generates attraction in 90.2% of women?
Here's a quick explanation...
When a woman says, "You're too young (or old) for me," she's establishing the underlying meaning of your interaction with her as her being the Prize you're trying to win over.
This underlying meaning is what I call the "Meta-Frame."
But... when you respond to her with the line above, it proverbially picks her up by the nape of her neck and sucks her into your Meta-Frame that you're the Prize she's trying to win over.
Doing this is what I call an "Attraction Coup."
There's a structure to the Attraction Coup. Master the structure and you can mutate any negative response or objection a woman flings your way into heaps of attraction inside her.
I'll tell you where you can get your hands on this step-by-step structure in a minute.
Maybe, though, you're worrying, "If I use this line she'll walk away and think to herself: "Thank God that creep wasn't interested in me."?
Most of the time this isn't the case because...
Women want you to desire them - even if they aren't initially attracted to you.
Fact is... When you goad a woman into trying to convince you that she's desirable, you establish the Meta-Frame that you're the Prize she's trying to win over.
I have, for example, had many experiences where women told me they weren't interested.
But then I'd let them know they fell an inch short of what I look for in a woman... and, therefore, would never go for them.
As a result, they'd struggle for my validation and approval... and, then, it would hit them like a scolding hot frying pan across the forehead: They felt attraction for me.
I've had many of my students email me with similar experiences.
But there's another part, a very important part that makes this effective...
And what I'm about to suggest is very advanced...
Whenever a woman feels even a smidgen of attraction for you...And you point out all of the reasons why the two of you make a bad match... the attraction she feels exponentially increases.
It's like putting a super-powered magnifying glass on that spec of attraction she feels toward you and transforming it into uncontrollable lust.
Go out and try this line. You'll be quite pleased, my friend, with the results.
But the reality is...
If you've spent time in the singles scene trenches, you've probably noticed women putting up other objections such as: height, weight, education, social status... and the list goes on.
"How do I respond?" you might wonder.
You could memorize an attraction coup to every objection a woman has. And inside my audio course you'll get dozens of word-for-word Attraction Coups.
But in all honesty...
There are so many objections women throw at men that having a canned response to each one is a challenge a few hairs shy of impossible.
Plus... memorizing a warehouse full of lines is a shi*t pot full of work. With a fraction of the effort you'd put into memorizing all of these canned responses, you could have at least one new woman in your life.
But then, Swinggcat, the problem still remains...
How do you handle objections flying out of left field?
Why are some guys able to effortlessly transform any objection a woman throws at them into attraction?
I used to wonder this myself. And I have a confession to make...
I was so jealous of guys who had the wit to mutate any objection or negative response into attraction.
When I asked them how they came up with witty responses so quickly they'd shrug their shoulders and stare at me vacantly because...
It was unconscious. They had no conscious understanding of what they did.
For a long time I thought it was an impossible skill to learn. You were either born with wit or not.
But then it all changed when I discovered...
A learnable and repeatable structure anyone can master.
You might have all the confidence in the world. Maybe you can skillfully approach dozens of women in a single night.
But if you can't handle women's objections - and you'll inevitably get them - your chances of success with women are grim.
Whether you take the time to learn the Attraction Coup structure or not, doesn't affect my life one bit.
The few of us who know this structure will continue to turn objections into heaps of attraction, allowing us to enjoy truckloads of success with women.
The question is: Are you ready to change your life by learning this structure?
Can you imagine what it would be like to mutate any negative response you get from a woman into massive attraction?
How would that affect your life?
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How To Mutate Rejection Into Attraction
Author: Swinggcat
I've got a question for you…
Have you ever been shot down by a woman? – be honest. I, for example, have been rejected more times than I'd like to admit.
For the collective average male, rejection plain sucks. There's nothing fun about it.
But a select group of ladies' men actually enjoy being rejected.
You might be thinking, "Sounds like these guys are masochists." Far from it. They revel in rejection because of a few secrets they possess that most men don't…
Most men think when a woman rejects them, they are doomed.
But ladies' men know…What kills most men's chances with a woman is their reaction her rejecting them.
Plus… ladies' men have the skills and knowledge to mutate rejection into attraction at their whim.
I'm going to teach you step-by-step how to do this, so the next time a woman rejects you, you can mutate it into attraction.
But first… I want to introduce you to some key attraction principles. These principles lay the foundation for what you're about to learn.
1). Prizability: Women are attracted to men they perceive as the Prize. Prizability is the degree to which a woman sees you as the Prize.
2). The Meta-Frame: Every male-female interaction has a meta-frame or underlying meaning. When you establish and maintain the Meta-Frame that you are the Prize the woman is trying to win over, attracting her becomes as easy as tying your shoe. But when the meta-frame is her as the Prize you are trying to win over, triggering attraction in her is next to impossible.
Imagine talking to a woman and just as things are getting hot and heavy she hisses the all too familiar words: "I have a boyfriend."
If you interpret these words as her rejecting you and walk away or apologize for hitting on her, she becomes the Prize in the interaction. Bad thing!
If you take her words as meaning her boyfriend is a barrier you have to get past and attempt to prove to her that you'd make a better boyfriend than her current one, once again, you're setting the meta-frame that she's the Prize you are trying to win over.
"So how in the world can you mutate the words 'I have boyfriend' into attraction?" you might be wondering.
Instead of interpreting the crippling words "I have a boyfriend" as meaning that she's rejecting you, interpret them as her trying to impress you.
So the next time a woman says, "I have a boyfriend," try: "Good… in the morning he can bring us breakfast in bed… but if the orange juice isn't fresh, I'm gonna club him."
One of two things will happen…
She'll completely get sucked into the Meta-frame that you are the Prize she is trying to win over.
She won't fall into your Meta-frame but will know that you are unwilling to get suck hers.
But I've got to be honest with you, my friend. This is a short letter and I've scratched the surface on how to establish, control, and maintain the meta-frame of your interactions with women.
I might not know you personally. But I do know...
What I teach gets results. It consistently drives women to see you as a Prize and triggers uncontrollable amounts of attraction inside them.
Just like many others have been doing, you too can catapult your current lifestyle with women by getting your hands on a copy of my course right now. You deserve it.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I think you owe it to yourself to start succeeding with the women you really want.
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AMOG Tactics
Author: Tyler Durden
The easy way to handle any alpha is to be polite to him, but act disinterested by his rap/accomplishments using tonality/body language (without coming off as patronizing/sarcastic) while simultaneously being charming to others around you. This will drop his perceived value and cause him to qualify himself to try and raise it back up. He can't fight you or do shit like that, and he can't move to insults, because you've been polite and in doing so he would be making himself look VERY BAD. The only tactic vs this is to walk away. If you reward him just enough to encourage further qualifying but not enough to make him feel validated again he will fall into line as beta in relation to you. I blow out rich men in power outfits, top ranking professors in schools, 300lb bouncers, police officers and gangers ALL THE TIME. This shit works - if you do it right they will work VERY HARD to be your friend.
Ultra quick and effective AMOG destroyer
This is just like the JAP Busting stuff, where you say "you're cool", as a way of tricking him to qualify himself to you.
He's stuck, because if he DOES do well, he's qualified himself to you. If he doesn't, he's failed to. The only answer he would have would be to say back to you "hey now, you're cool.. I didn't mean to step on your toes man.. You're a smart guy, keep talking to her and I'll watch and learn man!"..
Of course to that, you could reply, "You just met me and you already say I'm smart and cool? hahah"
More AMOG destroyer
AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
PUA: Her? I fucked her.
(Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you...).
AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
(Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)
AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)
AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool, it fucking rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh? Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..
AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!!
(then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).
AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality) guys.. You guys fucking ROCK.
(cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)
AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy
(girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(fucks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")
PUA: dude, you're like Bart Simpson all grown up.. (for guys who pull the college-guy type out alpha on you)
PUA: dude, you're like the Joan Rivers of the club.. I love all the little comments and shit.. (to imply like he does nothing but sits on the sidelines making comments but doesn't take action, so use this on guys who have that characteristic in the club venue)
PUA: That was really good man, you're like a comedian.
OR, if the dude is out-alpha'ing you, keep going until he's TOO into it, and then let him do a bunch of condescending shit on you in a row. Look at the girls like you're bored or sad, and because he's talking TOO MUCH he's therefore qualifying himself to you and losing. Then say to the girls "he's playing the condescention game.. I already won so I stopped now.. who do you guys think won, me or him?" (key is that you looked SAD so the girls start going "awww, he's so sweet", so they'll say you won because they love you now)
For super aggressive AMOGs who try to pick fights
AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: Dude, are you pissed that you're rolling with all guys?
AMOG: blah blah
PUA: dude, your all guy crew is so slick man.. where are your girls dude, what happened tonight?
AMOG: let's go outside..
PUA: guy man, I'm with chicks right now.. I'M INTO CHICKS.. I can't get into this experimental kinky shit with you right now, I have my hands full.. (misinterpreting that he was trying to sleep with you, not fight you)
AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: dude, that shirt rocks.. Tommy Hilfiger.. awesome.. man, back in highschool I used to have the one with like all these cool stripes on it.. it was awesome..
AMOG: fight blah blah..
PUA: guy man, these chicks just told me that they dig you like so bad.. you don't have to fight to prove yourself to them.. they think you're an alphamale dude.. you don't need to try so HARD man.. just BE REAL..
Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just cut him out. You'll notice trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with logical questions. They'll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was just to say "hey man, don't get all scientific on me.. we're here to have fun.." and then immediately start gaming the girls again. btw, if I'm out with any of my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS to stop them.
When you cut him out of the circle, he'll either leave (too deflated), or he'll try to grab your shoulder and say something like "don't turn your back on me". From there, the girls think he's creepy, so you say "hey guys, this dude is creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?" The girls will say "no no no, we don't know him", and you say "OK, let's get out of here", and put out your arms for them to grab.
Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot) turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the AMOG goodbye.
Also, you can USE the AMOG's WORK for yourself. Like he lines 'em up, you knock 'em down.
This is something I do alot. I let a guy pick a girl up and increase her buying temperature, then I go in and outalpha him, say he's creepy to the girls, and then remove them from him.
The girls are already aroused, so they are still in state based on what the AMOG did. I can do this like maybe on 90% of sets I approach where a natural AMOG has gotten far with a girl. I think a dude I know "Stephane" recently posted about this on Cliff's List regarding a sarge we did.
Basically, I just make the friends of the girl who is getting gamed on by the AMOG like me. Like, they want me, but they know they're not qualified but their friend is.
Then I say "Hey I want to meet your friend so much, but that touchy grabby lean in guy is all over her.. is she just being nice, or does she really like guys who lean in and touch and do all the 'whats your name' fake ungenuine stuff?"
The UGs are invariably like "no no, we hate guys like that.. that's why we love you so much blah blah", and then you get the FRIENDS to literally REMOVE the hottie that you want from the AMOG who is conveniently heating her up for you and saving you the hassle.
Most of the time, the AMOG feels immediately beta after such a line!
Hey AMOG, what's up? Are u ill today? You look sick!
Hey AMOG, you look/talk/act strange, do you take drugs?
Hey AMOG, your clothes are really strange!
Hey AMOG, i talked to some people here...
They don't like you, because you seem strange!
Hey you seem tired!
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Boyfriend Destroyers
Author: Tyler Durden
Background - a few things to remember
1) When BFdestroying you walk a tightrope between evoking too many bad feelings and having them anchoured to you, and getting the chick to want to dump her BF. Don't forget that your end goal is to f-close, not to break her up for some other dude to enjoy.
2) It is preferable that you don't make it appear that you want her to dump her boyfriend. Rather, make the idea appear to be something from within her (more of a Socratic thing, than a direct thing).
3) While BFdestroying, you must direct the convo. to make her prompt you to tell her how you would treat a woman. Make her work it out of you, because she's worked up, and wants to know if she's got a fair deal or not.
4) You must REFRAME all behaviour to appear like insecure nice guy behaviour.
Even behaviour that -WE- as ASFers would use on girls (such as not agreeing to LTR) is to be REFRAMED as being nice guy behaviour, as someone who is too afraid to be decisive and go for what they really want, since they are too afraid that they will lose it once they've been emotionally vulnerable (as will be explained below). All behaviour can be REFRAMED.
5) By making the guy look like a "NICE GUY", you are making him the most sexually unappealing guy conceivable. Once you've done this, there is NOTHING that he can do to get back into her good books, as you've put him into a predicament where anything that he does will be interpreted by his GF as being insecure. So, if he's too distant, and he makes up for it by buying her flowers -> he's insecure. If he's too needy, and he makes up for it by getting a life -> he's insecure. You are trying to DIFFUSE his outer glossy shell, and give the girl a window into his inner workings, so that he no longer appears "mysterious" in any way. You make her understand him so well, that she likes him more as a person, but no longer has any sexual desire for him.
6) Rather than re-explaining EVing, I'll just quote some MrSEX4uNYC archive, to give the basic frame that you're working with WHILE you are using the stuff that I'm mentioning. Without using this at the same time, my shit is USELESS:
"A major point though is that if her relationship to her boyfriend was so good, what is she doing sitting out for coffee with you? This does not need to be stated by you. It is obvious. Your job is to find out what SHE wants from you and how you plan to demonstrate that you can provide it to her through your stories about yourself. Of course you need lots of stories about yourself dealing with women in the same fashion that she likes to be handles herself. This stuff seeps in and makes her think of you as "her type" without you even complimenting her once." (MrSEX4uNYC)
The Tactic
What you're looking to do here is tear the guy down to a NICE GUY, while making it look like you're actually STICKING UP FOR HIM! Your goal is to make him one of those guys that a girl would go out on a date with, like as a person, and feel bad for having to LJBF at the end of the night when he tries to kiss her at the door.
So how do you do that? Almost invariably, LTRs have certain problems (which any of you who've had LTRs are morbidly familiar with):
-jealousy related spats (KEY)
-failure to commit or being too distant
-abusive behaviour (be it physical or mental)
-psychological withdrawal, to gain certainty in the relationship (ie: in LTRs each party will withdraw to see if the other will pursue periodically, to assure themselves that the LTR is solid.. this is dimestore psychology, and easily observable in any relationship)
-being irresponsible (not holding up share of chores, etc.)
-not being assertive in bed (KEY)
-being into S&M and other stuff in bed, that the girl thinks is too far out
-getting angry/frustrated when he initiates sex, and girl is not in the mood
-being too predictable, not passionate
OK, there are some basic ones. I will now break these down to show you how I would roughly respond to any of these complaints, in a way that I appear to be sticking up for the BF, but am inadvertantly BFdestroying him. This is not the sum total of the routine, but simply the raw fuel that you are employing, while using standard *** kino/bodylanguage/tonality etc. Remember, that you may not necessarily want to start escalating your sexual state, until she is convinced that her BF is lame-ass, otherwise she may potentially realize that you are trying to pull one over on her. This is not the rule, but simply something to be considered based on your evaluation of the circumstance.
"You have to understand that this guy really appreciates you, because you're probably the best girl that he ever got, or ever will get. I know that...you care about this guy (maybe sp)... but there's just a certain equilibrium where if you've done this guy a favour by being with him and he's not equipped to handle it, since he knows that he'll never get a girl like you again if he walks out, that he's just constantly frustrated and panicked that you'll leave. It's not his fault."
"You've got to understand that for this guy you are his entire world. He cares about you so much, that everything else in the world is meaningless to him. You are his only source of pleasure, and without you he knows that...he's nothing. You can't blame him, he just doesn't have anything else going for him, so he needs you."
Failure to commit:
"It's not that this guy doesn't love you. He does. Its just that deep down he has a fear that... you're too good for him... and that you'll realize it and be like, you know....you just have to dump this guy.... and then he'll be left emotionally destroyed because he made himself vulnerable. Yes yes I know that you wouldn't do that to him, but its just that with (x,y,z into consideration - bring up imbalance struck earlier in the convo) he knows that you could get other guys (SP)...like me...I just think that he's not an emotionally secure person, and you've gotta cut him some slack."
Abusive behaviour:
"It's not that this guy doesn't love you. Its that he loves you too much, and just can't handle it. He's not emotionally available, and because he knows that you're the best he's ever had, he can't handle all of these things that he's going through emotionally. All his life he probably wasn't very good with women, and women weren't interested in him.. So now that he's got this girl, he doesn't know how to handle it. (plus use the he doesn't want to be emotionally vulnerable, because he's such a loser ass that he can't handle it as per above etc.)
Periodic Psychological Withdrawal:
"(use combinations from material I've written.. Rather than downplaying it for the perfectly normal behaviour that it is, magnify it by making it appear to be a sign of insecurity, that is typically displayed when nice guys who can't get girls get stuck into a relationship with a girl that is too good for them)"
Being Irresponsible:
"Its not that this guy doesn't -want- to do these things. Its just that he's so overwhelmed by all of the things that are going on, that he just can't keep up these responsibilities. Yes yes, I know that x,y,z aren't that much, but he's not in an emotionally healthy place right now, and he just can't handle it (you mirror this against yourself, the image of a REAL/STRONG/COMPETENT man, basically trying to make him seem like a little boy)"
Not being assertive in bed (THIS IS KEY, AND IS VERY OFTEN THE BEST ONE TO USE - VERY COMMON)
"It's not that he doesn't want to excite you. It's just that he's so overwhelmed being with a girl like you, that he's not equipped to handle your sexual needs. It's like the typical case of the rich daughter who marries the labourer. At first the labourer is so exstatic to have this gorgeous girl (point to her) wanting him.. But in the end, he cheats on her with some white trash mullet haired girl, because he knows that that's who he really belongs with, and that's who makes him feel good about himself. You shouldn't hold his lack of assertiveness in bed against him, because its just a reflection of his insecurity. With the right girl, any guy can be a stud in the sack .. its not hard, you just have to take CONTROL (perhaps show some controlling kino here, to get her turned on)." then transition to some HOT sex talk, where you inadvertantly spill how much you need to take control in bed.
Guy into weird stuff in bed (S&M etc) when she hates it:
"It's not that this guy doesn't love you.. Its just that he uses these things to objectify you, because he knows that he's never had a girl like you, and probably never will once you're gone.. so he doesn't want to "make love", because he doesn't want to make himself emotionally vulnerable to you.. but he still wants sex, so he has to turn it into a perverse game, to keep his insecurities from overwhelming him"
Guy gets angry when he initiates sex and she's not interested (ANOTHER KEY ONE TO PECK AT..VERY COMMON)
"The thing is, that this guy loves you, and he's just exasperated that.... he's completely impotent to turn you on.. he just can't turn you on, and he knows that, so he gets frustrated.. Its like when you want to have sex...with me.....its like, I know that its your job to get the girl turned on. Girls need a man who knows that they want, and how to get it. When a girl says 'no', but at the same time she loves this guy (sp), it often means please turn me on more.. please, I want you to be more attentive to me.. (this totally mindfucks the girl, as it is an EXTREMELY COMMON part of the LTR cycle, that once sex becomes stagnant -> foreplay nearly ceases. Because chemically women are addicted to OXITOCINS which are released by touch, and it is more testosterone that they get from sex, most women will hate sex once it degrades to a lack of foreplay. However, most LTRs have this problem, so you must exploit it.. I'm ceasely amazed by how much girls in LTRs PERK RIGHT UP the second that you imply that you're attentive even in LTRs)
Being too predictable, not passionate:
"Its not that this guy doesn't love you. He does. Its just that he's so comfortable with you now.. and feels so close to you, that you're more like a sister to him.. Like a special sister, but someone who he doesn't feel that he has to do all these things for anymore, because your relationship is so secure and so predictable.. there's no need for all that excitement, because he knows that nothing will change.. Some guys deal with true love that way.. I dunno, for me, I think that if you really love someone, you have to do x,y,z (established earlier in convo) to keep it fresh. Like if you are really a real man who loves his woman, you have to do x,y,z to keep it fresh. But really, its not that he doesn't love you, its just that he loves you so much that he doesn't see the need."
***So, remember that you are focusing on destroying the guy's sexual appeal, by making him seem too familiar, and easy to understand. People generally get 'one-itis' for those who are challenging and hard to understand. By making the BF seem both easy to understand, and very insecure/nice/beta in the meantime, the relationship will likely not last the week.
Just remember not to be the LJBF who counsels her on her problems. Instead, you are constantly getting her worked up by doing the EVing that MrSEX4uNYC discusses in his archive. Ideally, she must be getting both turned off the guy by what you're doing, and getting turned on by YOU, and the conversation NATURALLY LEADS TO HOW YOU ARE DIFFERENT, AND -IDEAL- FOR WHAT SHE WANTS. The natural flow of conversation must indirectly lead to exposing your highly desirable qualities.
She is getting turned on by the DIRECT CONTRAST between you and her boyfriend.
You do not offer your qualities directly, but highlight them by pointing out that you understand where her BFs negative qualities are insecure. Getting her to beg you to tell her how you treat women is all the better, and if it is going well can likely be expected. Act reluctant to tell her if necessary, though not to the extent that you are sending an SOI that her getting with you is not a program that you're down with.
Once you have her worked up, use standard *** material to move in, and its a done deal.
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