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They use any means to contact victims—telephone, snail mail, email, and the Internet. They gain your trust and when they have you hooked, they ask you for money; then they take it and run. The scenarios they use to lure you in change, constantly. But you can protect yourself and your friends and family by arming yourself with knowledge of the most common types of fraud.
Advanced Fees / Prepayment:You are asked to send money to pay a fee up front for a product or service
Mystery Shopping:You are contacted for an employment opportunity to send money using a money transfer service and evaluate the service
Overpayment:You receive a check for an amount higher than the agreed-upon price and are asked to send back the excess funds using money transfer, but the check is fake
Employment:You are asked to send money for a job opportunity you have accepted
Lottery / Prize:You receive notification you have won a lottery/sweepstakes and need to send money to claim the prize
Rental Property:You are interested in a rental property and asked to send money for reasons that seem legitimate, but the property is not real
Emergency / Grandparents:You are asked to send money to a friend or family member for an emergency situation
Internet Purchase:You are asked to send money to pay for a product, auction item or service advertised online
Relationship:You meet someone online, develop a relationship with them, then you are asked to send money to them
Fake Check:You receive a check and are asked to send a portion of the money back for what seems to be a legitimate reason, but the check is fake
Scammers pose as representatives from phony loan companies and use authentic-looking documents, emails, and websites to appear legitimate. They charge "fees" in advance of making loans. Consumers pay, but the loans never come through. Scammers are long gone and they sometimes regularly change the name of their "businesses" to avoid law enforcement.
This is one variation of a scam called the "advance fee" or "prepayment" scam. Scammers can also lure victims in with promises of investments or inheritance gifts in exchange for a fee. But it all comes down to the same theme: Victims pay money to someone in anticipation of receiving something of greater value and then receive little or nothing in return.
Also see Fake Check Scam.
Mystery shopping scams are popular with criminals who target employment websites. The ploy's simple: Scammers send victims a check and tell them to use the funds to "evaluate" Western Union's money transfer service. Victims wire the money only to find out later that the checks bounce and they're responsible for paying the bank back.
Also see Fake Check Scam and Employment Scam.
With overpayment scams, fraudsters play the role of buyer and target consumers selling a service or product. The "buyer" sends the seller a legitimate-looking check, usually drawn on a well-known bank, for an amount higher than the agreed-upon price. They contact an explanation for this overpayment and instruct the seller to deposit the check and wire back the excess funds. Weeks later, the victim learns the check is fake, but is still on the hook to pay the bank back for any money withdrawn.
Also see Internet Purchase Scam and Fake Check Scam.
Employment scams generally start with a too-good-to-be-true offer—work from home and earn thousands of dollars a month, no experience needed—and end with consumers out of a 'job' and out of money. They generally follow one of three patterns:
1. Scammers pose as a new 'employer' and send victims a check to cover up-front expenses, like supplies. Victims deposit the check, buy the necessary supplies and wire any remaining funds back to the scammer. Weeks later, they find out the checks are fake and they're on the hook for the entire amount.
2. Scammers pose as 'recruiters' pitching offers of guaranteed employment or as 'employers' extending job offers on the condition that victims pay up front for things like credit checks or application or recruitment fees. Victims pay, but job offers never materialize.
3. Scammers pose as 'company' representatives and seek sensitive personal and/or financial information from victims under the guise of doing credit or background checks. They then target victims later on for identity theft.
Also see Mystery Shopping Scam and Fake Check Scam.
Lottery or prize scams follow two similar patterns:
1. A victim gets an unsolicited phone call, email, letter or fax from someone claiming to work for a government agency or representing a well-known organization or celebrity, notifying them that they've won a lot of money or a prize. The scammer gains their trust and explains that, in order to collect the winnings, they first have to send a small sum of money to pay for processing fees or taxes. Following these instructions, victims immediately wire the money, but never get their "winnings." And they're out the money they paid for "fees and taxes."
2. Victims get an unsolicited check or money order and directions to deposit the money, and immediately wire a portion of it back to cover processing fees or taxes. Weeks later, victims learn that the checks are counterfeit, but have already wired the money to cover the "taxes" and can't get it back. And they're on the hook to pay their banks back for any money they withdrew.
Also see Advance Fee/Prepayment Scam and Fake Check Scam.
Sophisticated scammers use the Internet, and particularly free classified websites, to prey on unsuspecting real estate victims. Rental property scams generally happen in one of two ways:
1. Renters are looking for a house or an apartment to lease and get scammed by an "owner." Victims come across a place in a great area, at a great price. The advertisement looks legitimate so they start communicating with the "owner," generally by email. The owner says the place is theirs if they wire money to cover an application fee, security deposit, etc. They wire the money, and then never hear from the "owner" again.
2. Owners are renting out their house or apartment and get scammed by a "renter." "Renters" contact victims, generally by email, and express interest in renting the house or apartment. Scammers send a check for the deposit but then cancel the deal. Victims wire the money back only to find out the check was a fake.
Also see Internet Purchase Scam and Fake Check Scam.
Emergency scams play off of peoples' emotions and strong desire to help others in need. Scammers impersonate their victims and make up an urgent situation—I've been arrested, I've been mugged, I'm in the hospital—and target friends and family with urgent pleas for help, and money.
Emergency scams also come in all shapes and sizes. There's the Grandparent Scam where con artists contact the elderly claiming to be their grandchild, urgently asking for money. And the Social Networking Scam where con artists hack into social networking profiles and then target friends with frantic requests for money, claiming injury, arrest, etc.; they do the same by hacking email profiles. They use the information in these profiles to supply enough personal detail to make their requests appear legitimate.
In the internet purchase scam, criminals prey on victims who bid on items using an online auction website or service. It generally plays out in one of two ways:
1. Victims win the bid, which is likely a sham or set up, and are told the seller only accepts money transfers for payment. The seller tells the buyer to put the transaction in a fictitious name, or the name of a loved one. Scammers convince victims this protects their money until the goods or services are received. The seller then creates a false ID in the fictitious name and retrieves the funds. The merchandise never arrives.
2. The other variation is when the original auction is legitimate but the victims don't win the bid. They're contacted later on by another party offering to sell them the same item under similar terms and instructed to wire the money as payment. The money is sent but the buyer never receives the goods.
Also see Overpayment Scam, Rental Property Scam and Fake Check Scam.
The relationship scam starts simply: A man and woman meet on the Internet. The relationship progresses: They email, talk on the phone, and trade pictures. And, finally, they make plans to meet, and even to get married. As the relationship gets stronger, things start to change. The man asks the woman to wire him money; he needs bus fare to visit a sick uncle. The first wire transfer is small but the requests keep coming and growing—his daughter needs emergency surgery, he needs airfare to come for a visit, etc. The payback promises are empty; the money's gone, and so is he.
Fake checks play a starring role in lots of different scams: advance fee or prepayment scams; mystery shopping scams; lottery prize scams, and more. Victims get an unsolicited check or money order and directions to deposit the money and immediately wire a portion of it back to cover various expenses, like processing fees or taxes. Weeks later, victims learn that the checks are counterfeit, but they've already wired the money and can't get it back. And they're on the hook to pay their banks back for any money they withdrew.
Also see Advance Fee/Prepayment Scam, Mystery Shopping Scam, Employment Scam, Overpayment Scam, Internet Purchase Scam, Lottery/Prize Scam and Rental Property Scam.


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Football Team History
Hillcrest Tuscaloosa Patriots
|Hillcrest High School
300 Patriot Pkwy. Tuscaloosa, AL 35405
Stadium: Roy Johnson Jr. Stadium
Colors: Red, White & Blue
Coach: Jamie Mitchell
Region: 6A-R4
|Patriots Sports Apparel
|Stadium Location
|School Location
|Some records may be incomplete. We have chosen to publish
this information in hopes our visitors will participate in assisting us to complete every school.
Join us in the forums to submit corrections and new information.
(1) If 'First Year' is unknown we assume a year based upon research.
(2) Winning and losing seasons counted only if team plays at least 5 games.
(3) All State players counted for the all state teams we have in our database. We must have an entire team for the appropriate classification to make additions to the teams. Only ASWA teams are recognized after 1982.
(4) NFL Players counted for any player that participated in a regular season game.
Great Moments in Alabama High School Football History
The Alabama High School Athletic Association was first organized in 1921.
The Alabama High School Athletic Association was first organized in 1921.

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There's some important new information for those of you installing Security-only patches for Win7 and Server 2008R2, and there's an unconfirmed report[See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 4: Time to get the July 2019 patches installed]
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I know the Computerworld article is coming soon, but I was checking Windows Update on my 8.1 PC & noticed a Security Intelligence Update for Windows Defender (Version 1.299.1095.0). On the Update tab for Defender, my current version is 1.299.867.0. Clicking on 'More info' in WU, I get this page: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/definitions. Should I just click on the "Update definitions" button in Defender, or do I need to download from the webpage?
Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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You can hit 'Update Definitions' if you like, but you don't have to. It'll take care of itself. Microsoft produces updates to their antimalware definitions 10+ times a day… substantially faster than most systems will stay up to date.
Your "1.299.867" definitions are maybe 2 days behind.
You can check the Windows Event Logs to see when definitions are installed, to get a sense of how often it happens.
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SparkyAskWoody Lounger
That must also include MSE for Windows 7.
As of 7/30/19 the MSE definition name changed to Security Intelligence Update. Unless Windows Defender and MSE are one in the same?
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Should I just click on the "Update definitions" button in Defender, or do I need to download from the webpage?
As @warrenrumak suggests, Windows Defender updates itself outside the realm of WU, as it should. It's the only update from MS that I do not have blocked.
A recent (April 2019) article on setting WD to automatically update can be read here at thefreewindows.com web site. That auto solution will show in tasks, if you don't want it to show (work in the background) another page on the same site shows the same process making it hidden.
I don't rely on Defender to protect me, but see no reason not to have it updated in the background just the same.
i think, i'll only install ie and office patches for win7 and 8.1, skipping "security" updates for windows… let's see, if august patches also have this telemetry bull***t built in… if so, then i'm definitely group w.
ie updates still cumulative, i assume, so i only need KB4510979 (skipping KB4507434), right?
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
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i think, i'll only install ie and office patches for win7 and 8.1, skipping "security" updates for windows… let's see, if august patches also have this telemetry bull***t built in… if so, then i'm definitely group w.
ie updates still cumulative, i assume, so i only need KB4510979 (skipping KB4507434), right?
Yup, same! Had enough.
Nice to retain control of my own PC.
samakAskWoody Plus
I'm not installing that July 2019 "security only" update and also I'm not bothering with the July IE update this late either as the IE updates are cumulative anyways! So for now I'll just wait for the Aug IE and the Aug Security Only update and see if that's also infected with any MS telemetry.
I'll continue to avoid any and all Security Only Updates that have anything extra hidden inside that has no business being there. MS really needs to stop with the nonsense and it's really tempting to just forget about any further patching anyways but any more of the same from MS with any "Security Only" nefariousness and not patching 7 anymore will become the rule long before Jan 2020 arrives.
If my memory serves me well, Woody said a while back that Security Only, Group B, Windows Updates are not cumulative and must be installed every month in order. So I don't think you can skip the July S.O. update and then install the August S.O. update. I think this applies to the IE S.O. updates too.
I'm pretty sure I'm remembering this correctly but if not, someone please correct me.Being 20 something in the 70's was much more fun than being 70 something in the 20's.
The SOs are not cumulative, they are individual.
So you can skip any one your want to skip, HOWEVER, when you do, you skip the security fixes it contains.
You won't get the fixes next month of the next month.
So if you need the fixes, you have to go back and install the SO you skipped.
have not touched win7 updates yet, updating win8.1 notebook right now.
"update for microsoft filter pack 2.0" (kb3114879) is "important" and checked. can i install it? i skipped it last month, installing june patches. i'll install all three other "important" and checked security updates for office 2010 (excel kb4464572, office kb4462224, outlook kb4475509) and of course defender and msrt.
and there is a new "important" and checked .net rollup, is it clear to install?
Fortunately, there are ways to circumvent the telemetry, or at least minimize it. Details following.
will there be a separate article which contains step by step instructions?
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
The July Windows 7 patches have been given the go-ahead if you are Patching Group A.
The Group B people have to make a choice about whether or not to install the Security-only patch, but other than that the July updates have the go-ahead.
The July Windows 7 patches have been given the go-ahead if you are Patching Group A.
The Group B people have to make a choice about whether or not to install the Security-only patch, but other than that the July updates have the go-ahead.
i asked regarding deactivating telemetry if i decide to install that contaminated "security" patch for windows 7.
Fortunately, there are ways to circumvent the telemetry, or at least minimize it. Details following.
will there be a step by step instruction available for this case?
and what about "update for microsoft filter pack 2.0" (kb3114879) and .net rollup? both are "important" and checked (at windows 8.1 at least, still haven't touched win7 updates)…
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
i asked regarding deactivating telemetry if i decide to install that contaminated "security" patch for windows 7
Try AKB2000012.
and what about "update for microsoft filter pack 2.0" (kb3114879) and .net rollup? both are "important" and checked (at windows 8.1 at least
The June and July patches have the DEFCON 4 approval with the exception of the Win7 SO which requires the user's choice.
UH-OH woody!
Remember KB4023057? It's baaacccckk 🙁
you may need to revise/update your recent article from Computerworld and include info about the newly revised KB4023057 update and how to hide/block it
GWL894AskWoody LoungerMoonbearAskWoody Lounger
Oh gawd. Not again.
Anybody who sees KB 4023057 should follow the discussion and advice here:
It's now being pushed to 1809 as well.
In short, you probably don't want it.
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i asked regarding deactivating telemetry if i decide to install that contaminated "security" patch for windows 7
Try AKB2000012.
and what about "update for microsoft filter pack 2.0" (kb3114879) and .net rollup? both are "important" and checked (at windows 8.1 at least
The June and July patches have the DEFCON 4 approval with the exception of the Win7 SO which requires the user's choice.
i'd rather wait for something more current, regarding this contaminated july patch.
on windows 8.1 i'm installing all important updates right now (except that group a patch).
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
Berserker79AskWoody Lounger
i'd rather wait for something more current, regarding this contaminated july patch.
There is an ongoing discussion about the telemetry here
i'd rather wait for something more current, regarding this contaminated july patch.
There is an ongoing discussion about the telemetry here
that is a bit too complicated for me to follow, it seems to need a monitoring software and tampering in registry as far i have read. like already announced for the time being i'll only install ie and all other important checked patches and stay put regarding that malware patch.
btw. on windows 8.1 i also installed that 2019-07 servicing stack (kb4504418)… does windows 7 also await a new servicing stack for july?
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
The latest Win7 Servicing Stack KB4490628 was released with the March Patch Tues. updates. You will need that. See if you have it installed.
You will also need the SHA-2 update KB4474419 if it's not installed.
okay, that win7 march servicing stack i installed along with march updates.
regarding my post history i also already installed kb4474419: 😀 https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/ms-defcon-4-its-time-to-get-windows-and-office-patched/#post-347990
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
Just a heads-up to report that today on my Windows 10 1803 Home machine I was offered a new KB 4023057 update (2019-08). I suppose this update was released after woody changed the MS-DEFCON level to 4, so anyone on 1803 trying to avoid KB 4023057 better keep your eyes open when installing the July patches.
I had to restart my 1809 after installing a new update for Intel 630 GPU and got the notice regarding July updates.
installed .Net KB4507419
installed CU KB4507469
installed .Net KB4503864
installed MSRT KB980830
Didn't get Servicing stack KB4512937
Just checked the Uninstall Updates. None of the updates just installed are on the list, however I have other updates installed on Aug. 2 :
KB4507469 (Download and install now)
KB4506998 (Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.7.2)
KB4509095 (Servicing stack update for Windows 10, Version 1809)
KB4512937 from July 22 superseded KB4509095 from July 5, yet I haven't got it.
What a mess.
The telemetry issue aside, does the July Security Only patch take care of something that is particularly important and necessary? Is it likely that not installing it now will cause serious problems when installing future SO updates?
Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).
MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV
Did you know that Microsoft has disabled VBScript for IE11 in Windows 10 with July 9 CU updates ?
Microsoft is going to disable VBScript for IE11 in Windows 7, 8, 8.1 with AUG. 13 CU updates.
In early 2017, we began the process of disabling VBScript in Internet Explorer 11 to give the world the opportunity to prepare for it to be disabled by default.
The change to disable VBScript will take effect in the upcoming cumulative updates for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 on August 13th, 2019. VBScript will be disabled by default for Internet Explorer 11 and WebOCs for Internet and Untrusted zones on all platforms running Internet Explorer 11. This change is effective for Internet Explorer 11 on Windows 10 as of the July 9th, 2019 cumulative updates.
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Berserker79AskWoody Lounger
Hey everyone, I was preparing to install the July patches (Windows 10 Home 1803 here) when I noticed something "unusual" upon running wushowhide to un-hide the July updates: the July CU for 1803 (i.e. KB4507435) has disappeared from the list of hidden updates (all I see in the hidden updates list are the July Office 2013 updates, the 2019-07 Windows Defender update, the 2019-08 KB4023057 update and the Feature update to 1903).
Assuming that WU will not automatically install the July CU for 1803 with the other July updates, should I install it (and the corresponding servicing stack update) manually by downloading the relevant files from the MS Update Catalog? Or should I just skip this CU entirely?
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Just installed the July updates on Win7 64bit. All installed except the Security Intelligence Update KB915597 v 1.299.1066.0, which failed with code 80070650. Windows gives no real help on that code. I tried it several times – always failed.
I'm just reporting the issue. I don't really care, since I use Kaspersky as my primary defence.
Win 10 Pro x64 Group A
SeffAskWoody Plus
280parkAskWoody Plus
On my 64-bit Windows 7 laptop Windows Update responded with an error code when I tried to install Security Intelligence Update for Windows Defender Antivirus version 1.299.1293.0. I subsequently opened Windows Defender and checked for updates and it updated to version 1.299.1319.0 dated August 5, 2019.
L95AskWoody Plus
I have 32-bit Windows 7 and am getting the same error code 80070650 as Chris B and 280park and Anonymous (see August 5th posting below by Anonymous). I tried the trick that worked for 280park and Anonymous, by opening up Windows Defender and checking for updates, but I'm not sure whether it work for me. I tried it twice. I don't recall what it said on the first attempt, but on the second attempt it said "no new definitions or updates are available". But there's nothing showing up in my update history of any successful installation of Windows Defender since July 4th. When I look within Windows Defender at what antispyware definition I have, it says I have definition 1.299.1783.0. The definition that failed to install earlier today due to Error Code 80070650 was definition 1.299.1765.0, which appears to be an earlier definition than what I presently have. I then did another check for Windows Updates, and Windows Updates says "No important updates available". Does this mean that I have successfully installed the latest Windows Defender update even though my update history shows three failures at installing definition 1.299.1765.0, and nothing else with respect to Windows Defender?
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Since opening Windows Defender to update it to version 1.299.1319.0 (which does not show up in Windows Update history), I have been successfully updating Windows Defender by using Windows Update. Shortly after your post, I ran Windows Update and again was able to update Windows Defender, this time to version 1.299.1765.0. At that time, which was several hours ago, I clicked the "More information" link that accompanied the update and the linked Microsoft page indicated that the latest version was 1.299.1791.0. Several minutes ago, I again clicked the "More information" link and the linked Microsoft page indicated that the latest version was 1.299.1798.0. However, neither Windows Update nor Windows Defender is indicating that any new versions are actually available to install.
I am not an expert, but it seems that new Windows Defender versions are developed throughout the day but are made available for installation on a less frequent basis.
280parkAskWoody Plus
I've installed the monthly rollup KB4507449 and the .Net Framework update KB4507420 today on my main Win7 X64 Home desktop with no apparent issues. I'll leave the other similar machine (but with 5 Office 2010 updates also on offer) for a couple of days while I see how the main machine is running.
Thanks as always to Woody and the team for all advice received.
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Nine Windows 7 Pro x64 machines have been updated (Group "B"); all had four scheduled tasks added by KB4507456, which were deleted before rebooting to complete the installation.
Each machine rebooted successfully, and they appear to be running with no discernable issues; the Task Scheduler shows that the added tasks remain deleted. The Belarc Advisor is happy (and so am I).anonymousGuest
Running Win8.1 64-bit – AND WPD to minimize "snooping".
After receiving the OK from Woody and Susan, installed the MS July 2019 'important' (only) updates through Windows Update. Before the update, WPS was set to maximum protections, including having the Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser DISabled.
After the update, WPS showed the Compatibility Appraiser ENabled, and one or more of the third party applications from Microsoft (Skype, OneDrive, Live, etc.) was re-enabled.
Reset WPD to full protection, and all seems to be well again. No other update issues noted.anonymousGuest
anonymousGuestdgreenAskWoody Lounger
Greetings. Here are the general instructions (for both Windows 7 & 8.1):
(Note: if this is your first time clearing telemetry tasks from the Task Manager, then you will encounter several more than four tasks.)
Open the Task Scheduler (click Start, then type task scheduler in the search box).
In the left-hand (white) rectangular box expand Microsoft, then Windows.
Within the Windows section of the hierarchal "tree" left-click on and delete (or disable) the following:
–> All tasks under Application Experience
–> All tasks under Autochk
–> All tasks under Customer Experience Improvement Program
–> Under DiskDiagnostic: DiskDiagnosticDataCollector
–> Under Maintenance: WinSat
–> Each task within (and under) Media Center
Close Task Scheduler. (You're done.)
A post above mentions WPD — the Windows Privacy Dashboard, which is an exceedingly useful tool (portable and free): https://wpd.app/ (Windows 7 -10).
Here is a discussion of the app by Martin Brinkmann: https://www.ghacks.net/2018/10/10/wpd-privacy-app-for-windows-updated/ from last October (it is currently at version 1.3.1203.0, released on 2019.07.08).
As WPD does not automatically create a restore point, my recommendation is to set one before making any changes (on some systems, for example, I've found that one or another website may not be accessible after maximizing privacy, due to changes in the Windows firewall settings (https://outlook.live.com, for example).
Followed your instructions above. Win7 Pro X64. Didn't see Compatibility Appraiser specifically. Should I be looking for that elsewhere? Please respond.
FWIW, did the following today. Installed the IE11 update, rebooted and waited 10 minutes. Installed the Security Only .Net patch for 6.1. Then installed KB4507434. Before rebooting, went into Task Scheduler and disabled all items you mentioned which were not already disabled. Had turned off Customer Experience Improvement… ages ago. Rebooted and rechecked in Task Scheduler and nothing had been altered. Am I missing something???
For the benefit of others, turned on Windows Update and checked for updates. Hid the rollups. Hid the Malicious Software tool. Was offered and hid KB3150513. Tried to installed the renamed Windows Defender update which failed two times with code 80070650. Ran the Windows Update diagnostic tool and it failed the third time. Found complaints of this online with no resolution. Grrr… Rechecked for updates. Four Office 2010 updates were there plus the same Defender update. Installed the Office updates and closed Windows Update. Opened Defender which I don't use because I have Kaspersky Internet Security. Ran the update from within Defender and it updated successfully to a much later version than WU had offered me. WHEW! Opened WU again and checked for updates. No Defender updates were offered. Closed WU "never check" until next update session. Such an ordeal… 🙁
The Compatibility Appraiser may explicitly appear in scheduled tasks under Microsoft –> Windows –> Application Experience as "Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"; however, there are other elements that Redmond also employes. So, if you've deleted everything mentioned above, even if the "MS Compatibility Appraiser" was not one of them, you're still good-to-go.
You might also check out the Windows Privacy Dashboard, mentioned above. (It turns out that it now has the option to create a Restore Point, which I hadn't noticed when I posted earlier; my bad… .)
Much obliged for the reply. Just had a look and that item and one other appeared. Fairly sure previously only AitAgent was there. Just disabled them. Media Center had 4 – 5 items added. All disabled now. Will recheck the next time I start up this workstation. Hope I won't need a wooden stake. 😉
Unfortunately that stake was needed. 🙁 Mid-afternoon the machine slowed to a crawl and my network settings were inaccessible. Lots of reboots and shutdowns with errors which flashed by too quickly to see. Uninstalled the Security Only update which didn't fix it. Had to bite the bullet and do a full Windows Image and Data restore from my WD Passport Drive. Takes forever and wipes the update history from the page in Windows Update. Installed Updates from Programs & Features is OK. This happened once before 2 – 3 years ago where Firefox froze and the network access icon was b*******. Whether this was related to the steps listed above, who can say. Right now, touch wood, all is back to normal. Only lost some financial data from today which I was 90% able to retrieve because my backup was done just last PM before I started the update drudgery. Ugh…
Not sure whether I should just go Group W at this point as I need this high horsepower Zbook 17 from 2014 to run my life and essentially exist. Not sure I don't trust Kaspersky Internet Security 2019 to protect this box vs M$. Kaspersky's USA phone tech and remote support is 7-8/10 when I've needed it. Group W may just be the way to go. Hate the concept of Win10 and forced updates, particularly drivers. Have learned in the past that the latest drivers don't play nice with older, even premium hardware.
Very sorry to hear that.
Did you try System Restore and/or some of the built-in Windows repair tools (or use a bootable Win 7 installation DVD, or installation USB, to repair Windows)?
For future reference, there is also a way to use a Win 7 installation disc or USB to perform an in-place (non-destructive) repair:
https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-7.html and,
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Other than the restore point created by installing the Office updates, the previous restore point was too old. System Restore doesn't have a great success rate after M$ updates, at least from personal experience. Touch wood, the image and data restore from backup works as well as it did 2 – 3 years ago and was created just prior to the July updating. Am drifting toward Group W and Canadian Tech approach to Windows Updates… 🙁 TBD
Given the programs. configuration and amount of data on this workstation, am not comfortable with M$ doing the repairs. Need to speak again to the skilled I.T. tech who set this machine up. It's been a couple of years = no news is good news. He works for a local firm which maintains hospitals, universities and Fortune 500. Curious about his take on newer workstation 17's and Win10. His firm won't touch consumer-grade hardware BTW.
Reporting in….
Installed the following updates…
KB4507449 (roll up)
KB4507420 (security quality rollup for .net)
All went smoothly.
Hid: KB4493132
MSRT have not installed this for many months.
Did note that MSE (Microsoft security essentials) has a new name now.
Dell Inspiron 660 (new hard drive installed and Windows 7 reloaded Nov. 2017)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP 1 GROUP A
Processor: Intel i3-3240 (ivy bridge 3rd generation)
chipset Intel (R) 7 series/C216
chipset family SATA AHCI Controller -1 E02
NIC Realtek PCLE GBE Family Controller
MSE antivirus (now has a new name)
Chrome browser
DSL via ethernet (phoneline)
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Installed .Net Framework update KB4507420, Monthly Rollup KB4507449 and the 4 Office 2010 patches, all in that order but running one at a time with a restart in between. Let the PC sit idle for a bit to process everything. All is fine and dandy. Thanks to those who report in with results, otherwise I might get a little nervous.
MacOS, iOS, iPadOS, and SOS at times.Susan BradleyManager
I'm going to be devil's advocate.
If I'm on 10, and I'm offered that update and especially if I'm on an older feature release, why don't I want that? I've helped two people this week on 1803 (on even on Home sku) that are starting to get the alert that they will soon be out of support and they had no idea that they were feature release-less and were not getting them. There systems were installing the normal monthly updates just fine.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
As much as I hate to agree, I do understand that there are times and users that a patch to force an update -may- be necessary. I am speaking mainly about forcing an upgrade to the newer version of Windows 10.
Most of the people we know are the "Mom & Pop" of the computer world. If one had a flow chart it would be like this: does the computer start? yes/no. If yes can you: a. browse the web, b. receive emails? If yes, that's it, done. With the possible exception of printing, that is all there is for them. Yes, we have heard of clients that complain they can not get the newest Windows 10. Basically, someone told them a new version was out and -of course- they must have the latest and greatest. "I can't get it. It won't download for me." They never would had known if no one told them. Therefore, in cases such as those, yes, a patch from Microsoft to diagnose and force feed a new version onto a computer is required.
While the rest of us more technical users and helpers, follow Woody and have the same suspicions as Woody, the common "Mom & Pop" do need some assistance from the mothership to force an upgrade. I and others here prefer to wait and let the bugs get resolved, then move up. But not everyone feels that way.
Thank you Woody for having this site.
OK. I did a full backup. I ran a manual Create Restore Point. Now I'm putting on my armor and going in….
Here's what they're throwing at me:
2019-07 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 for x64 (KB4507420)
2019-07 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4507449)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – July 2019 (KB890830)
Hopefully, everything will still be working when I come back.
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Thank Heaven! And thank you Woody and his league of superheroes.
I got through it. And this time I didn't have to reconnect the network.
Telemetry shmelemetry. Microsoft and Google already know more about me than I do. You have to pick your fights.
Thanks again!
I think this fight is worth picking even if it means a bloodbath.
Sigh…You're younger than I am. I hung up my guns.
I will say that I deactivated my FB account and don't use any of their products. I also don't use a smarthphone or any i-Devices.
I'm a neo-luddite. But I know when to put up the white flag. I do wish you success.
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Hi Morty! 6536 here. I knew you were coming on board and getting to be a techie when I commented last month, "now people will be coming to you for help!" Glad it installed OK.
Morty, Abbodi86 and AJNorth have great ideas. If you could go down either suggestions you WILL reduce the telemetry and "they" will know less about you than you do.
See AJNorth's comment #1902567 above. I am sure you can do it!
Good Luck.
@the-Surfing-Pensioner: It isn't just what MS and G know about you in a properly scrubbed form of telemetry that rightfully does NOT have any personal identifiable information, but when things go awkward and then personally identifiable information DOES get out to the world.
A few years ago Wed of Trust had a problem of not "scrubbing" the data clear of any personally identifiable information and a German magazine found data about people in the URLs that were sent back to the aggregators. By having this telemetry data turned off, it is closing another possible vulnerability you may have.
Especially since AJNorth laid out above what to disable or delete, why not spend 5 minutes doing it? BUT … to each their own.
And yes I do agree having a bad patch is more of a headache than turning off telemetry.
As I co-ordinate a small voluntary organisation single-handed, my personal identifiable information is all over the net anyway. It's never been a problem; I don't bank online. I was also (unfortunately) a customer with TalkTalk at the time their records were hacked and I still get overseas calls from individuals with Asian accents claiming to be TalkTalk technicians who ring me up asking for access to my P.C., or for money. I quite enjoy telling them what I think of them. In consequence, I have never been infected by the telemetry paranoia that troubles some people. I really haven't got anything left to hide.
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Reporting in late, have been unwell. Installed the July WIN7 .NET and Rollup with no issues.
(Oh, and made sure that CIEP's throat stayed cut. It did. Should take out 99% of pesky telemetry.)
But why do I ALWAYS have to re-configure Windows Media Player every time I do a Rollup??
Thanks to all here for repeatedly putting their head in the Sabre-toothed Tiger's Jaws.
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Greenhorn
"Nine out of 10 doctors say Acid Reflux is mainly caused by computers."
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Windows 7 Home 64 bit Group B
I decided to switch to Group A (or so I thought). A check for updates offered .Net Framework KB4507420, Security Intelligence Update for Windows Defender KB915597, MSRT KB890830 and Security Monthly Quality Rollup KB4507449. Ironically, all installed except KB4507449. I downloaded the Security Only Group B patches and they all installed – guess I'm still Group B after all. I did disable all the recommended tasks in Task Scheduler.mn–AskWoody Lounger
Oh hey, how does that go with servicing stack updates now? Latest or by kb number?
Because some of those look funny. 1903 got a new SSU on the 27th but numbered earlier than the previous one from the 9th… and I had a bit of a bother some months ago on one system when the exact SSU by kb numbers wouldn't work and had to get a later one to be able to install a CU.
Yeah, right, 1903… but anyway.anonymousGuest
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I actually don't see why not, it's a cumulative IE11 patch.
However, here comes the caveat, the 'security patch' in Group B is non-cumulative which means, if you decide to Group B 'security patch' next month, July's security fixes won't be applied leaving the device vulnerable. Then troubleshooting issues start to get messy..
If you should want to install the July Security Only Update and wish to reduce telemetry, might I suggest AKB2000012 by abbodi86.
IMHO I'm now convinced that Group A is the way forward to prevent this scenario from happening. Woody, what's your take on this? Head scratching time..No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created IT- AE
Yes, you can install only the IE11 CU.
But the telemetry is not the only thing in the July CU. The fix for the new Meltdown/Spectre vulnerability is also in the SO KB4507456.
See this Blog Post.
After reading all of the comments relevant to this untenable situation, I can only feel that "we who are totally non-computer literate" are "up the proverbial creek without any kind of paddle". I don't want to wait too long, however don't know which way to jump at this point in time, and I think there are many others who have this lack of "experience and computer knowledge" to deal with it all. Good luck to us all, and I'm thankful there are so many who have the outstanding knowledge and experience to share with us.
I installed the Group B, Security Only updates for Win 7 and IE11, the .Net update, and the Office 2010 patches yesterday. I disabled all the telemetry items as given to us by nice people on Woody's site. I should emphasize that you should give some time after each reboot for the updates to work in (15 to 20 minutes). I watch the CPU usage on Task Manager to see when it stops.
So far knock on wood, things seem to be okay and all settings are where I put them. Nothing has been said one way or another, but I'm assuming the KB4507456 Win 7 update can be uninstalled if a problem comes up.Being 20 something in the 70's was much more fun than being 70 something in the 20's.
Just now received KB3150513 … "The updated definitions help enable Microsoft and its partners to ensure compatibility for all customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system", on W7/32 – sent by Windows Update. It came in as important/recommended.
With KB4507456 snooper update and now this, it is obvious that it is all about data gathering for upgrading purposes and not for diagnostic/trouble shooting statistics.
We may soon see yet another 'get W10' offer to those with so-called compatible systems. I am not expecting a rehash of the previous unethical GWX offer, but I ma expecting a popup (or the likes) with a YES and hopefully a NO button. I am not anticipating a 'do not ask again' box to check.
Today I finally had a moment and installed the Windows 7 x64 July patches: for Office 2010, the July MSRT and the .Net rollout, as well as the July IE11 Cumulative Security update. But had no luck with the July Security Only update. Something I did, I think, cut short its install. It did not go through the "Installing Update" stage with the growing green bar, but declared itself installed all the same and in no time at all. When I checked in Windows Updates the list of installed updates, it did not appear anywhere. I searched for it by KB number, and it was found. I tried to uninstall it to have another try at installing it properly, but that failed with an error message. I restarted the machine, which fiished installing the IE11 update. But then I tried, once more, to see if I could install the Security Only KB4345459 and I got — again — the message that this was already installed. So I used a restore point I had created before installing IE11 to undo the whole thing and then tried, once more, to install Security Only, but had no luck: the system informed me, yet again, that this was already installed, although, again, it showed nowhere in the lists of installed updates. I reinstalled IE11 without problems and then said to myself: "Well, I am going to let this July Security Only patch rest in peace. At least this way, this time, I won't get any of the telemetry in its bag of nasty tricks. If others (Group W) can live long and prosper without ever, if they are to be believed, installing any patches whatsoever, then I could, probably, survive with a botched install of July's Security Only."
Such is life. That, as I've been told by an usually reliable source, is not half as bad as its alternative. If anybody has any advice that is not too complicated to apply, I'll be interested to read about it.
Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).
MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV
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Thank you, AJNorth, Sir! Thank you so very, very much! Not the least reason for being thankful is that you have completely demonstrated that, indeed — and as I have suspected all along — I did do something wrong!
Now, following your most illuminating suggestion, I have succeeded in installing the July SO patch without any obvious bad side effects, so far.
Oh, this is SO weird! Unique, in fact, in my, by now, very long patching history! I imagine this happens to people who rush to do things very, very slowly that they lose track of things, as myself in this particular case.
Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).
MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV
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Quick question about July updates for Win 10 1903. I just now have gotten notice on my laptop that the following updates are ready for downloading, and wanted to just ask if it is safe to do so now. I am assuming yes, since these are July patches, but wanted to just make sure, since this is just the second time I'm getting updates for this laptop.
Win Defender Update KB 2267602 (V1.299.1542.0) This KB is the same number as the June Defender Update – are they always the same, just a different version number?
July Malicious Software Tool KB890830
July Cumulative Update KB4507453
July Cumulative .NET update KB4506991
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Group A with Win7 Pro 32bit on HP dc7900- sff deskside with Wolfdale Intel Core2 Duo/Southbridge
No issues with the 7420 .net KB, or the SMQR 7449 and MSRT 830 installs. Internet connectivity and WMP all intact, too.
Really appreciate the sundry inputs I read through above from everyone to help keep misery to a minimum.
Enjoy the dog days of August, all!
Here's my feedback after updating last night:
Note: I had results similar to Sueska's (#1899427). I had already disabled each of the scheduled tasks under Application Experience [AitAgent, Compatibility Appraiser, Program Data Updater] and CEIP [Consolidator, KernelCeipTask, UsbCeip], and verified this prior to installing July's SO.
1 – imaged my disk with Macrium Reflect Free
2 – downloaded Updates KB4507456 (July SO) and KB4507434 (IE11 July Cumulative)
3 – installed the July SO and IE11 Updates and then rebooted; waited 15 minutes
4 – re-checked Application Experience and CEIP: under Application Experience, AitAgent remained disabled, but Compatibility Appraiser and Program Data Updater were now 'Ready' so I disabled both. The 3 tasks under CEIP remained disabled. (I double-checked this morning, and all 6 tasks are still disabled.)
5 – updated MS Security Essentials' Virus & Spyware Definitions manually to eliminate Windows Update's "Optional" 'Definition Update for Microsoft Security Essentials – KB2310138'
6 – checked "Windows Update" => 6 Important (all checked): 3 Office 2010 and 3 Win 7; 3 Optional: all unchecked
7 – unchecked and hid "Important" Update KB4507449 (July Rollup)
8 – hid the unchecked Optional update KB4507437 (July Preview Rollup)
9 – hid the unchecked Optional update KB4493132 (the "Get Windows 10" nag patch)
10 – hid the unchecked Optional update KBKB3150513 (as noted in Bill C's results #1904809)
11 – checked "Windows Update" again => 5 Important: 3 Office 2010 and 2 Win 7: all checked; 0 Optional
12 – unhid 0 hidden updates to install
13 – installed 5 Updates: 3 Office 2010 (KB4464572, KB4462224, KB4475509), 2019-07 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework (KB4507420) and MSRT (KB890830)
14 – rebooted and waited around 45 minutes
Note: Windows Media Player needed to be reconfigured once again.
Many thanks to Woody, PKCano, abbodi86, Sueska, Bill C, and everyone else who continue to contribute their time and expertise, or who post their own results!Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Office 2010; Group B (SaS); Former 'Tech Weenie'
@SueW: Isn't the KB4507449 (Monthly Quality Rollup for Win 7 for x64, the one that has the "telemetry" cooked into it? I'm sure there are many who are having nightmares about what will transpire, "if and if it's NOT" downloaded and installed.
It would be interesting to get an idea of how many are taking the risk of installing this one versus not installing. Thank you for posting the information..
@PKCano: I sent two replies to you thanking you for REALLY making my day. It was absolutely wonderful. I checked several times and was unable to locate my reply so I am sending another one. Your assistance has been a real "life saver" for me.
I cannot begin to ever say "thank you" enough for all of the amazing and outstanding assistance you have provided for all of the members. Thank you, thank you, and thank you again. You are absolutely amazing, and "PURE GOLD".
I really don't understand all the theatre involved with Windows 7 updating. We're five months away from an obsolete operating system. Why not just install all updates?
As a side question, why are we still seeing KB4507437 [2019-07 preview of monthly quality rollup for win7 x64] after already installing KB4507449 [2019-07 monthly rollup]?
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As a side question, why are we still seeing KB4507437 [2019-07 preview of monthly quality rollup for win7 x64] after already installing KB4507449 [2019-07 monthly rollup]?
KB4507437 ( 2019-07 Preview of monthly quality rollup) is an UNCHECKED Optional update that was released AFTER the 2019-07 SQMR. It contains non-security fixes that are not in the July CU. The Preview updates are intended for testing only, and the new fixes they contain will be rolled into the next month's Security CU on Patch Tuesday.
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I just rolled back Windows 10 updates that updated my computer sometime today. My Windows 10 version is 1903 build 18362.10005.
When I clicked my Search bar in the taskbar, all I could see was a big black box. My search window came back when I uninstalled today's update. Sorry, I didn't notice the build number of today's update.
Thought you would want to know in case this happens to anyone else.
I just rolled back Windows 10 updates that updated my computer sometime today. My Windows 10 version is 1903 build 18362.10005.
When I clicked my Search bar in the taskbar, all I could see was a big black box. My search window came back when I uninstalled today's update. Sorry, I didn't notice the build number of today's update.
Thought you would want to know in case this happens to anyone else.
Your new slow ring build was 18362.10012.
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This is to help all. I want to thank Sueska, GoneToPlaid, SueW and my friend "CH".
Windows 7 SP1 64bit, with Broadcom network card. Group B.
Installed all July's updates; IE KB4507434, then IE KB4510979, SO KB4507456, .NET 3.5.1 SO KB4506976 and MSRT today.
From the catalog; Installed IE KB4507434 1st, KB4510979 2nd, SO KB4507456 3rd, SO .NET KB4506976 4th, and MSRT (from WU) last.
Installed one at a time, *with Network disconnected*.
Rebooted in between each update letting it sit 1 or 2 minutes after update was installed (when hard drive light settled down).
As per SUEW I did the same. "I had already disabled each of the scheduled tasks under Application Experience [AitAgent, Compatibility Appraiser, Program Data Updater] and CEIP [Consolidator, KernelCeipTask, UsbCeip], and verified this prior to installing July's SO."
(For me, Compatibility Appraiser was missing. It was installed after KB4507456. I then disabled it).
After the Windows 7 SO KB4507456 install, I went through Scheduled Tasks, found and compared before/after, the below:
AitAgent was set to run at 2:30am -presumed altered- but it did honor the set disabled state. If it wasn't disabled by me, it too would be running.
ProgramDataUpdater – was "ready", set to disabled again.
PerfTrack – disabled (stayed the same)
Autochk Proxy- Disabled (deals with CEIP) was left alone.
CEIP was -presumed- updated and set run times, but it did honor the set disabled state. If it wasn't disabled by me, it too would be running.
DiskDiagonostic Data Collector & Resolver – Disabled (disk & system info for CEIP). It did honor the set disabled state. If it wasn't disabled by me, it too would be running.
Media Center has: AccountWindows Search, ConfigureInternet Time Service, DispatchRecoveryTasks, ehDRMInit, InstallPlayReady, mcupdate, MediaCenterRecoveryTask, ObjectStorRecoveryTask, OCURActivate, OCURDiscovery, PBDADiscovery, PBDADiscoveryW1, PBDADiscoveryW2, PeriodicScanRetry(disabled, an old trigger of 2006), PvrRceoveryTask, PvrScheduleTask, RecordingRestart (disabled), RegisterSearch, ReindexSearchRoot, SqlRecoveryTask, UpdateRecordPath. ALL had "last time run never". After install all appeared the same "ready" except for 2 of them mentioned as "disabled". No new run times, no new triggers (I do not use Windows Media Player).
Is the Scheduled Task "WindowsErrorReporting" needed (WindowsError Queued files)? I already have Windows Error Reporting Service disabled, so I will probably go and disable the Scheduled Task.
Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services, find Diagnostics Tracking Service. I did NOT have that service. I never installed KB2952664 nor any get win10 patches (Group B).
It was mentioned to add a registry key of: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SQMClient\Windows\CEIPEnable\0. I did not have that key and I did not create the key. If Abbodi86 or other askwoody MVPs say, "yes, you should", then I will. (Is this registry key definitely needed?)
No network issues. No oddities.
Rebooted 3 times and let it sit for several minutes. (15 min. – so MSCORSVW of .net could run)
I would recommend people on the last reboot to go to the desktop and let it sit 45 to 60 minutes to Process Idle Tasks, let the trusted
installer (as per PKCano) do its thing and the MSCORSVW of .net can get done.
If others here are interested, one can run the MSCORSVW .net image compiler (NGEN) manually. (I do).
You can also force Processing of Idle Tasks if you want by the administrative command prompt: rundll32 advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks
You can enter that then walk away for 15 to 20 minutes. If the drive light is still on, it is still running, walk away again. Do not allow
the computer to go to sleep. Reset the Power Options to 1 hour sleep if needed. Laptops make sure you are on AC power not battery!
And like ELLY said, you could keep task manager open and look at the MSCORSVW process and see if it is still running.
Thanks to all here.
Windows 7 Group B
? says,
thank you for the detailed patch report and tip 'o the fedora to SueW as well! your posts take the guesswork right out of the process. i lost the ngen speed 'em up years ago so it is nice to have it although mscorsvw.exe usually runs for 11-14 minutes and at this late stage of the win7 patching game i really don't mind the wait. i see trusted installer run for 10-13 minutes and then move on. i'm skipping the SO for July and beyond if they also contain the telem just don't want their plumbing .dlls, .exe's., mui's and associated winSxS in the mix. the win7 started life around 4GB and now is a plump 20GB after all the patching…
Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Group B
Following the directions of AJNorth & Sueska regarding telemetry and SueW's excellent and precise record of her updating & installation of this July's patches (minus Office) the updates went with only very minor glitches plus fixing Media Player and same as others above, post Task Scheduler telemetry check fix. The only problem is that when checking for updates, I was never offered the Net Framework KB4507420 patch, even with repeated checks. So I've gone to the Microsoft Update Catalog and have 3 security updates to choose from: which one should I download and install? I think it's the 162.4 MB choice, but I'm not sure. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
KB4507420 is a Rollup, a bundle of updates for different versions of .NET. If you are patching .NET manually you need to know which versions of .NET are installed on your computer. The patch for different versions have individual KB numbers different from the Rollup. (See the linked pages.) What you see installed is the Individual KBs, not the Rollup KB number.
That is why it is best to update .NET through Windows Update. WU will determine what is on your computer and install the patches for the version(s) you have installed. If there is no patch for your version, you may not be offered any through WU.
PKCano, thanks again for your input. Actually, as an apparent Group B "for REALLY dumb dummies" member, I usually wait monthly til the last minute to install whatever patches are available. When checking for further WU at the end, I will hide any unchecked + checked patches that show up that do not belong in my personal patching roster for that month. Those patches that I hide, apparently can be patches that I will be needing for the next month, which is what happened with 2019-07 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework KB4507420. After a light bulb suddenly flickered on above my head, I checked my hidden patches and found my KB4507420. I just downloaded and installed it without incident. Sorry to have bothered you in the middle of the night.
Probably few folks check back here, but I wanted to mention some of my recent experience…
Friday I took it upon myself to bring 6 machines at work up to date.
Two were mine (my desktop workstation and a VM within), three were high end server farm machines that were recently installed (e.g., less than two months ago, bought new and Win 10 v1903 installed afresh by a coworker), and one was a coworker's office machine.
Of those six systems EVERY SINGLE ONE exhibited errors upon running
SFC /VERIFYONLY. All had to be repaired by running
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealththen
SFC /SCANNOW. Fortunately that succeeded in every case.
These systems are closely and carefully managed and kept up to date every month when Woody here takes us to MS-DEFCON 4 or higher.
2 of the 6 machines I personally verified as of last month's patches to pass an SFC check cleanly. I presume the other 4 must have been clean at some point, though I can't be certain.
How is it Windows 10 has become so fragile, so apt to soil itself, that it requires geek chops to recover virtually every machine just used normally? How many folks, even in Engineering lines of business, even know to use DISM? What do regular folks do?
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I periodically run system checks — different operating system, same lack of trust.On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender
It is a matter of personal habit going way back.
I just always check, before and after updating. If it finds a problem before, I fix it before attempting updates. If it finds a problem after I fix is so that maybe – just maybe – next time I won't find one before.
What do regular folks do?
Move to Linux Mint 19.2 ? … 🙂
Thanks Noel for the reminder about the Command Prompt DISM and SFC commands, remember to 'Run as Administrator'. I have done that with Win10 v1803 and recently with version 1809. I am not using 1903 yet. Were all 6 of your computers on v1903? What type of problems were you having? I am learning about LM19.2 in my Win7 VirtualBox.Computers become slow when they sense that their servants are in a hurry.
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If only it were so easy to just hop to another OS.
The two office systems were v1809, the VM and the three test machines in the server farm were v1903.
I kept my own office system on Windows 10 for Workstations v1809 simply because it has not yet been offered v1903 and I'm in no hurry to beta test the new version. I have it set to the most conservative setting, formerly known as "Current Branch for Business" I guess, as I need the machine to be stable (which it is). It was clean before the update but gathered some kind of SFC problem during the update, which I then fixed.
The other office system running Windows 10 Enterprise had an SFC problem before the update, which I fixed, then it was offered v1903 this time around, so I went ahead and put the new version in. That went quite smoothly, and wasn't corrupted (SFC-wise) upon login after the upgrade.
The three server systems have the most "stock, out of box" configurations of Windows 10 Enterprise. All three of those showed SFC problems before the update, which I fixed, and after the update no additional corruption was detected.
That's the Windows Defender sfc/scannow DISM bug. It's well-known, and comes from a change inside of Windows Defender. The only permanent fix will come in the form of a future Windows 10 Feature Update which will incorporate the correct internals for handling the changed WD updates behaviors.
-- rc primak
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That's the Windows Defender sfc/scannow DISM bug. It's well-known, and comes from a change inside of Windows Defender. The only permanent fix will come in the form of a future Windows 10 Feature Update which will incorporate the correct internals for handling the changed WD updates behaviors.
My Win 10 v.1809 build 17763.615 has the same issue wherein sfc /scannow said it found corrupted files but could not repair them.
Next, i ran this command: DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
The result was: [==========================100.0%==========================] The restore operation completed successfully.
Then i ran sfc /scannow again. The result was:
Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.
For online repairs, details are included in the CBS log file located at
windirLogsCBSCBS.log. For example C:WindowsLogsCBSCBS.log. For offline
repairs, details are included in the log file provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag.
Hopefully, all is well!
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I have not received ANY notices of updates to the subjects I am subscribed to since August 9th. What is wrong with the system? I have no problem with logging in, and trying to find a subject to read the replies to, however I have NOTHING being sent to my email for notifications since August 9th. Is anyone else having problems with this? I am lost without my notices of new messages. I have no idea what the problem could be…. Thank you for any help you be able to provide. Your website is the "pot of gold" at the end of the rainbow. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. 🙂
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@PKCano: I have never had any problems receiving the "alerting" emails since I've been a member of this forum. I always check all spam and trash before clearing, so I don't know what is occurring. I have not changed anything at all, when my "alerts" suddenly stopped and have not started again. Thank you for the tips, which I have always strictly adhered to. Again, and again, I "thank you".
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PKCano: MIRACLE OF MIRACLES!!! Your notification on this "alert" is the FIRST I've received since my "alerts" suddenly stopped!! I have done nothing difference, so I don't know the reason why, however I am SO thankful that I have received the "alert". THANK YOU for all of the recommendations (however I've never had to use anything other than what I've always used). This is VERY strange, however I'm not questioning it! I AM SO HAPPY!!!
I only hope it continues without anymore problems. As always "THANK YOU" for all of the time and effort you expend helping all of us, PK!! 🙂 🙂
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When reading Woody on Windows (August 2 column – It's Time to Install Most of July's Office and Windows Patches) at Computerworld.com I noticed this statement:
"There are plenty of full-image backup products, including at least two good free ones: Macrium Reflect Free andEaseUS Todo Backup."
Both of those backup programs are good. In fact, I often use Macrium Reflect Free. I'm curious, however, as to why Woody didn't mention Windows own System Image backup. It's known as Backup and Restore (Windows 7) these days, and it still does a good job. So, why no mention?OldBiddyAskWoody Lounger
I'm running Windows 7, Home 64 bit. I installed all the important July updates that were checked without incident. But I noticed since the update, my disk space has gone down spontaneously by 3 gig! Can this be due to the addition of the telemetry in the July roll Up? Otherwise the system seems normal, just seeing this disconcerting drop in disk space. Any help would be greatly appreciated!anonymousGuest
Hello OldBiddy,
PaulT may have a point in that System Restore points are made by the MS updates. However I would had thought eventually the maximum amount of the drive would had been met, thereby having the oldest restore points drop off. However, it is a good thought and should be looked into.
I would also suggest you run Microsoft's "Disk Cleanup", press the "Clean up System Files" button, and see about further cleaning by removing the "old MS updates and Previous Windows version OS" and Delivery Optimization files. Reboot afterwards. Do not panic if it takes some time to reach the desktop again. We have seen as long as 45 minutes of a "black screen" and then up pops the login or the desktop. It does have to delete the files and redo pointers and that takes time.
After every MS update, a day or two later, I run Ccleaner. I use the older 5.29 or 5.30 version before Avast bought them. It usually find 500 megs to remove, 400 megs of that being logs and error logs. Unless you want to have your Windows 7 upgraded to windows 10, I see no reason to make send or keep any error logs that windows 7 may acquire. If you are not intending to upgrade to Windows 10 on that computer, you might consider turning off (disable) the "Windows Error Reporting service".
Hope this helps.
Oldbiddy here. Can't seem to sign on to the forums – pwd not working though I haven't changed anything. I did successfully sign on earlier.
But just wanted to let Paul and anonymous know that running disk clean freed up considerable space – about 10 gig!!! All those old windows updates and SP1 backup files took up a lot space. I figured I shouldn't need the Service Pack backups since my nearly 10 year old laptop will be obsolete in the next few months. I do have my data files backed up and can move them to whatever new machine I get next.
Many thanks to anonymous and Paul for your help. So glad it worked 😊. Although it's still a puzzle to me why I lost so much disk space within the span of a week.
This is really strange. I'm not signed in but my post shows my name. I get an error when I try to sign on saying either my userid or password is wrong, but I was still able to post as myself. Not being officially signed in though, so I can't see the option to thank anyone. And I never use the keep me signed in option. Maybe my account is corrupted in some way.
You know, this is absolutely true 😋. I do write things down – that's the only password manager I can handle! And I'm sure you're not old at all, PKCano – you're just trying to make me feel better, bless your heart 😊.
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Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate, x64, Group B.
Yesterday I decided to install the so-called Security-Only update KB4507456. After restarting, apart from the scheduled tasks added in the Task Scheduler, I have noticed in the the Event Viewer this warning message:
"A provider, InvProv, has been registered in the Windows Management Instrumentation namespace Root\cimv2 to use the LocalSystem account. This account is privileged and the provider may cause a security violation if it does not correctly impersonate user requests."
Doing some searching in the web, I have not found something really definite about this, but I suspect that it relates with the notorious KB2952664 …
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I suspect that it relates with the notorious KB2952664 …
Yes, it is, and dates back to year 2015
I never would have thought to look at Event Viewer unless I read your post, but I also have 2 of the same warning messages. Each warning has the same date and time (right after I installed KB4507456), the same source [WMI] and the same Event ID [63].
I'm tempted to delete these; have you?Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Office 2010; Group B (SaS); Former 'Tech Weenie'
Hi @anon, thank you for your response. I had disabled the telemetry tasks again (although I was tempted to delete them as you did!).
As to removing the InvProv provider, one could delete each of its 'Warning' events in Event Viewer > Custom Views > Summary page events, where the Actions for each event, including Delete, are in the right-hand margin. If deleted, I'm not sure what any side effects would be either, though my system didn't have this provider prior to installing KB4507456.Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Office 2010; Group B (SaS); Former 'Tech Weenie'
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I had a report of a similar (but not identical) scripting/ad blocking package having a fit with Susan Bradley's post here.
Ends up it was a simple mistake — the second link was pasted as http, when it should've been https. Changed it to https, and the warning went away.
I wonder if you're seeing something similar?
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We have a big problem with Internet Explorer on Windows 7 x64 and June+July Monthly Rollup Updates and Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer.
I made a video about that problem – https://youtu.be/DWISubnC5sI
In two words – IE starts sooo long and works soooo slow after problem updates. When you uninstall update – IE fast as it can be again.
If we install some of next updates, we have IE problem:
KB4503292 (June Monthly Rollup)
KB4507449 (July Monthly Rollup)
KB4503259 (Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer: June 11, 2019)
KB4507434 (Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer: July 9, 2019)
We don't have any problems with KB4507456 (Security-only update)
Today we try to install KB4512506 (August Monthly Rollup) – no problem, all fine. But August updates are just released and on DEFCON2.
Does somebody have same issue?
Or it is some kind of our specific issue?
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See https://www.askwoody.com/2019/ms-fixes-the-bug-that-causes-a-looooong-delay-in-starting-internet-explorer/
Does that fix the problem?
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The Progressives won on Tuesday.
I don't mean the people who voted Democrat who call themselves "progressive." Though they won, too.
I mean the Progressives who've been waging a century-long effort to transform our American-style government into a European-style state.
The words "government" and "state" are often used interchangeably, but they are really different things. According to the founders' vision, the people are sovereign and the government belongs to us. Under the European notion of the state, the people are creatures of the state, significant only as parts of the whole.
This European version of the state can be nice. One can live comfortably under it. Many decent and smart people sincerely believe this is the intellectually and morally superior way to organize society. And, to be fair, it's not a binary thing. The line between the European and American models is blurry. France is not a Huxleyan dystopia, and America is not and has never been an anarchist's utopia, nor do conservatives want it to be one.
The distinction between the two worldviews is mostly a disagreement over first assumptions, about which institutions should take the lead in our lives. It is an argument about what the habits of the American heart should be. Should we live in a country where the first recourse is to appeal to the government, or should government interventions be reserved as a last resort?
These assumptions are formed and informed by political rhetoric. President Obama ran a campaign insisting that Democrats believe "we're all in it together" and that Republicans think you should be "on your own" no matter what hardships you face. We are our brothers' and sisters' "keepers," according to Obama, and the state is how we "keep" each other. The introductory video at the Democratic National Convention proclaimed, "Government is the one thing we all belong to."
Exactly 100 years before Barack Obama's re-election victory, Woodrow Wilson was elected president for the first time. It was Wilson's belief that the old American understanding of government needed to be Europeanized. The key to this transformation was convincing Americans that we all must "marry our interests to the state."
The chief obstacle for this mission is the family. The family, rightly understood, is an autonomous source of meaning in our lives and the chief place where we sacrifice for, and cooperate with, others. It is also the foundation for local communities and social engagement. As social scientist Charles Murray likes to say, unmarried men rarely volunteer to coach kids' soccer teams.
Progressivism always looked at the family with skepticism and occasionally hostility. Reformer Charlotte Perkins Gilman hoped state-backed liberation of children would destroy "the unchecked tyranny … of the private home." Wilson believed the point of education was to make children as unlike their parents as possible. Hillary Clinton, who calls herself a modern progressive and not a liberal, once said we must move beyond the notion there is "any such thing as someone else's child."
One of the stark lessons of Obama's victory is the degree to which the Republican Party has become a party for the married and the religious. If only married people voted, Romney would have won in a landslide. If only married religious people voted, you'd need a word that means something much bigger than landslide. Obviously, Obama got some votes from the married and the religious (such people can marry their interests to the state, too), but as a generalization, the Obama coalition heavily depends on people who do not see family or religion as rival or superior sources of material aid or moral authority.
Marriage, particularly among the working class, has gone out of style. In 1960, 72 percent of adults were married. Today, barely half are. The numbers for blacks are far more stark. The well-off still get married though, which is a big reason why they're well-off. "It is the privileged Americans who are marrying, and marrying helps them stay privileged," Andrew Cherlin, a sociologist at Johns Hopkins University, told the New York Times.
Religion, too, is waning dramatically in America. Gallup finds regular church attendance down to 43 percent of Americans. Other researchers think it might be less than half that.
In the aftermath of massive American urbanization and industrialization, and in the teeth of a brutal economic downturn, Franklin D. Roosevelt promised to fight for the "forgotten man" — the American who felt lost amidst the social chaos of the age. Obama campaigned for "Julia" — the affluent single mom who had no family and no ostensible faith to fall back on.
In short, the American people are starting to look like Europeans, and as a result they want a European form of government.
(Jonah Goldberg is the author of the new book "The Tyranny of Clichés." You can write to him in care of this newspaper or by e-mail at: [email protected], or via Twitter @JonahNRO.)


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"We consider the attempts to accuse Russia of violation of U.S. laws and even some sort of conspiracy, which on top of all that are accompanied by threats, as absolutely ungrounded and unacceptable," Lavrov said. "There are no legal grounds for such conduct of U.S. officials."
The defiant tone underlined the Kremlin's readiness to challenge Washington at a time when U.S.-Russian relations are strained over Syria and a Russian ban on adoptions by Americans.
This picture taken on June 18, 2013 shows a man walking past a banner displayed in support of former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden in Hong Kong. Hong Kong leader Leung Chun-ying on June 24 broke silence over the departure of Snowden, saying his government had complied stricly with the law, but also admitted discussions with Beijing over the issue. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
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Lavrov claimed that the Russian government found out about Snowden's flight from Hong Kong only from news reports.
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Ecuador's foreign minister, Ricardo Patino, hailed Snowden on Monday as "a man attempting to bring light and transparency to facts that affect everyone's fundamental liberties."
This photo provided by The Guardian Newspaper in London shows Edward Snowden, who worked as a contract employee at the National Security Agency, on Sunday, June 9, 2013, in Hong Kong. The Guardian identified Snowden as a source for its reports on intelligence programs after he asked the newspaper to do so on Sunday (AP)
He described the decision on whether to grant Snowden asylum as a choice between "betraying the citizens of the world or betraying certain powerful elites in a specific country."
State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell said the U.S. had made demands to "a series of governments," including Ecuador, that Snowden be barred from any international travel other than to be returned to the U.S. The U.S. has revoked Snowden's passport.
"We're following all the appropriate legal channels and working with various other countries to make sure that the rule of law is observed," President Barack Obama told reporters.
Some experts said it was likely that Russian spy agencies were questioning Snowden on what he knows about U.S. electronic espionage against Moscow.
"If Russian special services hadn't shown interest in Snowden, they would have been utterly unprofessional," Igor Korotchenko, a former colonel in Russia's top military command turned security analyst, said on state Rossiya 24 television.
The Kremlin has previously said Russia would be ready to consider Snowden's request for asylum.
Snowden is a former CIA employee who later was hired as a contractor for the NSA. In that job, he gained access to documents that he gave to newspapers The Guardian and The Washington Post to expose what he contends are privacy violations by an authoritarian government.
Snowden also told the South China Morning Post newspaper in Hong Kong that "the NSA does all kinds of things like hack Chinese cellphone companies to steal all of your SMS data." He is believed to have more than 200 additional sensitive documents in laptops he is carrying.
Some observers said in addition to the sensitive data, Snowden's revelations have provided the Kremlin with propaganda arguments to counter the U.S. criticism of Russia's crackdown on opposition and civil activists under President Vladimir Putin.
"They would use Snowden to demonstrate that the U.S. government doesn't sympathize with the ideals of freedom of information, conceals key information from the public and stands ready to open criminal proceedings against those who oppose it," Konstantin Remchukov, the editor of independent daily Nezavisimaya Gazeta, said on Ekho Moskvy radio.
Putin has accused the U.S. State Department of instigating protests in Moscow against his re-election for a third term and has taken an anti-American posture that plays well with his core support base of industrial workers and state employees.
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Katie Holmes was on Jimmy Fallon last night to talk about her play Dead Accounts with really good hair and doing a good job of being herself as Anne Hathaway being her. Someone wrote to me earlier today that her teeth look dirty. I dunno, I zoomed on them and they look fine to me. I wonder though if it's that so many of them bleach the sh-t so much out of their teeth that they're making people with normal teeth seem other. Kinda like actresses who don't have any work done.
As for Anne Hathaway, here she is today in Brooklyn with her husband Adam buying toy gifts for Sandy storm victims. Why's he trying to be Ryan Gosling?
Obviously this entire article was just an excuse to post it. How could I start the weekend without posting it? I've probably watched this close to 50 times now, no exaggeration. The rich low tone of Russell Crowe's voice when he asks, "Where's the child Cosette?" is... perfect. I think I might come out of this film totally, totally in love with his performance. My favourite movie of the year comes out in 39 days.


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