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Friday, August 20, 2010
The problem with Phil's approach isn't that there are no dicks in the atheist community. Obviously there are, as highlighted by the "all Christians are retarded" post linked in that thread. All Christians aren't retarded, and that's a dick thing to say. One point for Phil.
The real problem is that by focusing on it in a speech this way, Phil gives the clearly false impression that this is systemic to the "leaders" of the "new atheist" "movement" (to the extent that there are leaders and it is a movement that is new, although I join many in despising the "new" designation).
There's a bait-and-switch which always seems to go on in these discussions. PZ Myers, Dawkins, and we on TAE, do what we can to attack ideas and not people at every opportunity. Some people are dumb, but none of us wants to paint with a broad brush everyone who holds a belief as universally dumb. We say that up front, and we don't hesitate to call specific ideas dumb, if it's warranted. By focusing on the ideas we can pay attention to WHY they're dumb, rather than calling names of people who, after all, are complex individuals with many different ideas and motivations.
We do attack ideas, but we attack them in a way that sometimes offends people. The point, though, is that the people who are taking offense are often doing so due to unreasonable beliefs. Like PZ Myers and his "frackin' cracker." It's less about the offensive language and more about the fact that certain people believe the cracker is the body of Jesus -- which it clearly isn't -- and they are willing to terrorize and intimidate people who don't treat it with the respect due to a magical cracker -- which it isn't. It's about the fact that people should be allowed to draw cartoons with Mohammed as a character -- clearly an activity that harms no one except by annoying them -- without receiving death threats.
In a nutshell, this is about drawing attention to an activity which shouldn't be offensive but is. It is taking a stand to say that religious devotees cannot draw arbitrary battle lines and say "We hereby intend to be offended by activity X, and unless you cease and desist from doing X at all times, you are a dick." I actually see a lot of parallel between this issue and the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque", which is neither a Mosque nor at ground zero. On that subject, an opinion seems to be coalescing, even among people who are trying to appear reasonable, that "those Muslims have the right to build a cultural center there, but good taste dictates that they should not do it."
I reject that. I think if anything, this whole crapstorm has made it more apparent that those Muslims should build their cultural center right where they damn well said they would, because if they give up ground on this issue then there won't be a spot in America where they are allowed to build anything, ever. Free speech and free assembly aren't just symbolic. If those rights aren't exercised then we can still lose them.
I'm willing to have a reasonable discussion about what are the best methods for exercising our free speech to deal with unreasonable taboos. Sure , Phil, in a few situations it may be preferable to be polite and observe the taboos that you disagree with, depending on how important the fight is. I reject, however, the categorical statement that you shouldn't do things that might make some group think you're a dick. That way lies capitulation to every unrealistic demand of a new Taliban.
But Phil Plait would also like to strengthen his case by sneakily conflating two things. On one hand, we have posts that say "All Christians are Retards," a statement which is both dickish and false. On the other hand, we have PZ Myers throwing his cracker in the trash. By conflating the two, we can be left with the impression that PZ Myers calls all Christians retards, when in reality the two acts are not equivalent.
It just seems to me that way too often, saying "Don't be a dick" is actually code for "Shut up and accept it when other people are dicks to you."
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I'm more than a little perturbed.ReplyDelete
It's not just that Phil hasn't adequately defined a problem and hasn't provided any evidence that this is a significant and escalating problem...it's that he's responded to legitimate concerns, honest inquiry and comments critical of his flawed reasoning by smugly knocking over straw man.
At this point, I'm starting to think that the only way I'll get any sort of response from him or any sort of acknowledgment that the response he directed at me was dishonest is to actually BE a dick to him. How ironic would that be?
It's probably good that there's no TV show this week, because I'm about 90% certain that I'd be calling him out on live TV.
At the time I was there I felt the speech was targeted not at the 'leaders' of skepticism but to the general audience and was meant as a reminder some to chill out a bit when talking to friends and family.ReplyDelete
Keep in mind this was at the beginning of the convention and I think the idea was to set a tone of acceptance. Dawkins was the keynote speaker at this very convention and I am sure that Phil did not have a problem with that.
I am not really sure what to think now that I have seen his response to Matt though. I do think this 'skeptic schism' business needs to be addressed. I hope they spend as much or more time at the next TAM talking about how to lessen it. A good start would be to invite more religiously minded skeptics like Matt.
Regarding the "mosque at Found Zero," Carl Paladino, one of the Republicans running for governor, has promised to seize the mosque building through eminent domain and turn it into a war memorial. Now, that would be a dickish move.ReplyDelete
If eminent domain were used to take the mosque, it would be a blatant violation of the first amendment. I don't know anything about the guy, but he's either stupid for saying it, or he's shamelessly making this statement to get all the bigoted dicks in New York to vote for him.
I don't mean to sound silly or anything, but would you people mind sometimes saying some things on some topics that I don't completely agree with? Just now and then, to make me feel less like some stupid groupie, please?ReplyDelete
I think Phil is a bit too caught up on the seduction parts of teaching skepticism. I think He's ignoring the fact that social disapproval of bad ideas is effective as well. When The older kid makes fun of the younger kid for believing in Santa Claus, what happens?ReplyDelete
Some ideas are really dumb. Would it be so bad to have a society that abhors bad ideas? Or is it preferable to have one that champions ignorance and gullibility as open-mindedness?
Phil just seems to be digging a deeper hole every chance he gets. As for his most recent response, I can only guess that he gave Matt's critique of his speech the most cursory review. If he can't use that as an excuse then shame on him for being a dishonest prick.ReplyDelete
I respect the guy and his accomplishments, but the vibe I get these days from him is that of a politician more worried about his image and fame than he ought to be. To the detriment of his stated goals.
I seem to remember him stating that Carl Sagan was a hero of his and that his goal was to be like Carl. Carl Sagan would never have responded to a critique in such a shallow, off the mark, and apparently dishonest way. Phil has got a lot of work ahead of him.
I don't mean to give the impression that I dislike Phil. I really do not. Just keeping it real.
There's another problem here; the atheist/secularist movement in the United States is rather weak by international standards, and it's faced with confronting the overall strongest bastion of theistic power in the "first world." We don't have the numbers to make good press by peacefully protesting, gently correcting, and simply doing our own thing; right now, we need strength and some solidarity on the issue of church/state separation. The opposition collectively has THOUSANDS of full-time professional apologists, campaigners, organizers, and recruiters on staff, a significant minority of whom are, in one form or another, "in" on the secret that they're arguing disingenuously. They've also got the assumed majority position -- they can claim to speak for the public without raising eyebrows. Then, if you factor in the Republican/Tea Party's recent behavior and its explicit dominionist statements, straight from the desks of a few elites... [/tinfoilhat] Meanwhile, it's pretty darn hard to get paid for pushing the secularist position. There are a few lawyers and judges, a few scientists, philosophers, and professors, one or two bureaucrats, and a very few journalists who spend a significant amount of their time covering the issue; the rest are volunteers with day jobs, like y'all.ReplyDelete
What I'm trying to say is that now isn't the time to be telling atheists to quiet down and play nice, and that's exactly the take-home message Mr. Plait advanced. Calling out specific misdeeds on the part of individuals is one thing. When some atheist douchebag wants to sue someone to quash their free speech rights, call 'em out. When someone's defacing monuments, call 'em out. When someone (specific) is being abusive and mean, or is opposing legitimately conducted meritorious acts by religious people, call 'em out. However, calling for a general ceasefire isn't warranted at all. We've got junior theocrats pushing to block a non-majority religious building in our nation's economic capital on solely religious grounds, and they're polling well. We've got an (avowedly) new splinter political party that's very explicitly stumping for Christian Reconstructionism, and an out-and-out dominionist came as close to the Presidency as V.P. for the runner-up. We've got a whole bunch of big, rectangular states where legitimate science and history education are hanging on by a thread and where the Establishment clause and the 14th Amendment are uncommonly acknowledged. And, we've got a new Supreme Court justice who's not solid on church/state separation.
Sorry, but while it might not be time to beat on a big brass bell and call everyone to arms, it's definitely time to stand up and be heard, to rattle the shutters of a few of the swelling theistic enclaves, and ensure that we don't get shut out in the next decade.
"And, we've got a new Supreme Court justice who's not solid on church/state separation."ReplyDelete
Elena Kagan?
Matt D. said...ReplyDelete
I'm more than a little perturbed.
I don't blame you one bit. However, I would be extremely surprised if Phil were to reasonably address this and admit to any error. My guess is that he will ignore it and never speak directly to you. It would be nice to be wrong.
I respect the guy and his accomplishments, but the vibe I get these days from him is that of a politician more worried about his image and fame than he ought to be. To the detriment of his stated goals.ReplyDelete
Phil needs to realise he is not the Grand Wise Elder of the skeptic community.
His non-response to Matt was incredible. I'm sick of these accommodationist asses talking down their noses. Damn, I wish there were a TV show this week. Save that anger up for next week, Matt!
This is my first interaction with you guys but I've been listening to your podcast for years. I work with a bunch of atheists in a company owned by an atheist. In case anyone is wondering, there's no discrimination here, this is just a particularly secular part of Canada. We all listen to mp3 players all day and I'm the guy that loads them up. Your podcast is the #1 most anticipated and enjoyed. Great stuff people.ReplyDelete
To the discussion at hand, I don't think there's a more important skeptical topic than religion with the exception of, perhaps, global warming denial. I don't say perhaps in the sense that I think global warming is debatable, only in the sense that I don't know which has the potential to destroy our existence first. My interest in skepticism is driven by a desire to one day die with some grounds for hope that mankind isn't on the trolley tracks to self induced extinction. Everything else skeptical, UFOs, ghost hunters and anti-vax etc are important in their own right but they are ultimately trivial in the big picture.
There seems to be a push, whether calculated or not, to steer clear of atheism in the skeptical community. If this is the case, my involvement in the skeptical movement is no longer justified. When group leaders get in the way of forwarding the very message the group hopes to promote, skepticism, it's time to cut your losses and bow out. I'll watch from the side lines and hope common sense wins the day but, until then, I'll focus my efforts directly on the problems that I see as more pressing.
"But Phil Plait would also like to strengthen his case by sneakily conflating two things. On one hand, we have posts that say "All Christians are Retards," a statement which is both dickish and false. On the other hand, we have PZ Myers throwing his cracker in the trash. By conflating the two, we can be left with the impression that PZ Myers calls all Christians retards, when in reality the two acts are not equivalent."ReplyDelete
Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying this.
You said it much better than I did, for sure!
"It's probably good that there's no TV show this week, because I'm about 90% certain that I'd be calling him out on live TV."
I'm about 99% certain that I'd be enjoying the hell out of it!
"I seem to remember him stating that Carl Sagan was a hero of his and that his goal was to be like Carl. Carl Sagan would never have responded to a critique in such a shallow, off the mark, and apparently dishonest way. Phil has got a lot of work ahead of him."ReplyDelete
Yeah, well. Phil Plait is no Carl Sagan.
For one thing, Sagan was not an accommodationist. He wasn't a fire-breathing debater, but he had very little patience for nonsense and superstition. Watch some of those old "Cosmos" episodes; some of them are out-and-out arguments for atheism and a naturalistic worldview---and these episodes did not seem to give a rip about the fragile sensibilities of believers. Sagan tip-toed around NOTHING. (Watch 1:15 of this clip. Keep in mind: this was PBS, too!) We tend to remember Sagan as though he was this Mr. Rogers kind of guy with his turtleneck and tweed jacket---but he never sacrificed truth in service of not offending the precious widdle feewings of religious-types.
And Matt: Hang in there. LOTS of us share your frustration. You always seem to engage people in good faith (no pun intended), and it's a shame Phil didn't handle this better.
AS the apparent dick poster boy (my own fault) I would like to reiterate that that "All Christians are retarded post" was written after watching a since deleted video by youtube user glenreb.ReplyDelete
Anyway, if therw was one thing I would change about that post, I would insert the word "being", as in "Christians are being retarded" instead of "Christians are retarded."
Obviously, Christians aren't literally retarded. And, just as obviously sometimes smart people do dumb things. I do still think that the collection of ideas labeled "Christianity" are an extraordinarily dumb collection of ideas, and that people who accept those ideas are being dumb. You'd have to convince me that Christianity *wasn't* a set of dumb ideas to get me to change my mind on that.
That being said, the post was not an argument, and was never intended to be an argument -- it was intended to be a rant. And sometimes I will rant on my blog. It's why I have a blog. I invite you not to read it if you don't like it. Or read it if you do.
I think it's safe to say that at least some christians are retarded.ReplyDelete
For example, I believe Trig Palin is a christian.
Actually, Trig Palin could not possibly be Christian, since he's still an infant and has Down's Syndrome. Therefore he is neither old enough nor mentally sound enough to understand the tenets of Christianity well enough to accept them. Now, I'm sure Sarah and the First Dude have imposed Christianity upon him, as Christian parents do. But if so, Trig cannot really be a Christian, as he has no understanding (let alone an awareness) of what it is he is being obligated to "believe". Imposing religion on children, especially ones who aren't mentally developed — that's a dick move!ReplyDelete
I keep reading through the comments of Plait's post to see if he is ever going to respond to Matt... but I think it's now obvious he isn't.ReplyDelete
As many in the comment section of his post have noted, this makes Phil look arrogant and aloof - not to mention that he can't engage with reasoned criticism.
I suspect that this is one of the few times, if not the first, where Phil is faced with opposing viewpoints which he cannot use his scientific knowledge to rebut or debunk quickly - and we are now seeing how he handles himself when criticised by people he cannot merely dismiss with fact.
I have a good friend at work who I always call "the holy roller". We enjoy a pretty good natured friendship and I genuinely like her. She's a good person. Whenever I legitimately challenge her on her beliefs, she accuses me of being "grumpy" or simply "being negative". All I usually am doing is halting her proselytizing. Basically she goes on as if I've never heard the story before and that's why I don't believe it. I now have a bible at my desk and refer to it and say "I know". Often I'll play devil's advocate and espouse an opposing denomination's belief. Then I'm not labeled as mean.ReplyDelete
The bottom line is this; any time I get the least bit serious and bring up legitimate failings in her system of worship I am labeled, for lack of a better term, a "dick". Even if this is a bit farther than Plait intended, it certainly supports this notion. Just what does that allow me to do then? It essentially makes it a taboo subject. Because when it comes to religion, having an alternate opinion makes you a dick to many christians.
And not to defend the dickish blog entry du jour, but you simply must watch the videos by "glenreb". They can still be found everywhere. The guy is hysterical. He is also a complete dick of the opposing view. While I would never say he shouldn't be allowed, it definitely weakens the christian argument... and I think that was what was originally intended by Phil's comments.
Andy said...ReplyDelete
"Yeah, well. Phil Plait is no Carl Sagan."
My point exactly. Not even close. Not that he is required to be like Sagan, who could be. But he has recently acted like he needs to have this pointed out to him.
"For one thing, Sagan was not an accommodationist. He wasn't a fire-breathing debater, but he had very little patience for nonsense and superstition."
Yah. That is what I liked best about Carl. I certainly wish I could argue like he did.
My current new favorite YouTube atheist is Angie The Anti-Theist, and right now I'm enjoying watching her read and RIP INTO Rick Warren's smug tome _The Purpose Driven Life_. Is Angie being a Dick, Phil?ReplyDelete
I don't know, but I do know I'm enjoying the hell out of it. She's a cult survivor (faith healers) and yes, she is an "angry atheist", but for damn good reasons considering what she's been through in her difficult life.
Angie also has a blog, but her most recent YouTube videos have been priceless. Angie's anger is, in my estimation, fully justified. And entertaining, in the same way that Lewis Black is entertaining. Angie is full of awesome, even if Phil Plait thinks that what she's doing is the rhetorical equivalent of strapping on a dildo. ;-)
"Whenever I legitimately challenge her on her beliefs, she accuses me of being "grumpy" or simply "being negative".ReplyDelete
I think I've encountered this before (and have no doubt done it myself a few times). That tendency to take the uncomfortable feelings some questions generate, and project them outwards as problems with the questioner.
No doubt your work colleague thinks that there must be something wrong with you, rather than ask herself why your questions cause her to react in this way.
I personally remember Carl Sagen as Captian America's friend who was killed by oil tycoons :http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/02/08/captain-america-review/ReplyDelete
The schism stuff really annoys me because the message they're sending isn't "Some skeptics are christian", it's "Skeptics are NOT atheists". The "don't be a dick" thing wanting to not drive people away is especially galling as on some places, say..skepchick, some of the people are perfectly fine and have no problem with offending atheists. Sometimes...a lot. Skepchick has a lot of voices but there is some WTF dissonance when one guest is ranting about how juvenile and stupid atheists are while the host and founder follows up with a pro-atheist vlog.
That sorta is evidence for Matt's Schism hypothesis.
Two things, hopefully quick ones:ReplyDelete
First, before we canonize St. Carl, he had his own forays into poor, fallacious argumentation. I'm pretty sure it's Phil himself, in the "Bad Astronomy" book, who calls out strawmen that Sagan dredged up about Velikovsky in "Broca's Brain."
Second, I think a large swath of skeptics, so enamored with the idea of education, are uncomfortable with the notion of making believers uncomfortable. They also seem to be very concerned with making the skeptical movement larger, and think that being discomforting would hinder that.
These aren't necessarily entirely unreasonable conclusions, but they are unrealistic. The very existence of nonbelievers discomforts believers in whatever subject. There's no way for us to argue in a way that won't make people uncomfortable. And if some potential "members" are driven away by that discomfort, then they don't have the stones to be a skeptic. Skeptics should expect to be questioned, to defend themselves, and to face the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it is.
And while our situations are not the same, it would be good to (yet again) take a page from the gay rights movement. You know what makes people uncomfortable? Pride Parades. Seeing same-sex couples showing affection openly. Rainbow flags. Guys in sequined speedos. The gay rights movement certainly wouldn't be where it is today without the vast majority of GLBT people being normal, everyday folks who just happen to be gay and just want to be treated like everyone else. But those people would be invisible without the folks who had the courage to defy norms and stand up and make conservative straight people uncomfortable.
We can worry about growing the ranks and playing patty-cake with believers once we've gotten to the point that our very existence isn't taboo. Until then, we need the "warriors" at least as much as the "diplomats."
I get to an extent Matt's point, and the point in this post. But for anyone who has spent time on a forum where say atheists and theists debate, or believers of psi and proponents, for example, will see all sorts of comments by skeptics about how idiotic the beliefs are on the other side. They may have some legitimate points in their posts, but those get lost in the 10-20 posts following which discuss nothing other than the person's nasty tone.ReplyDelete
Do we really need Phil Plait to go through and find examples? We've all seen them, on various forums.
Fact is, being a dick often causes one's point to be lost. The recipient focuses solely on the insult, and ignores the content.
That's not to say we shouldn't vigourously promote our skeptical approach, and use logic and reason to tear apart the believer's fallacy-ridden position. We should do that. Phil's point is that when we add inflamatory and base insults into the mix, our valid points get lost.
This happens over and over and over again.
And even when frustration sinks in, and some stronger tactics may be necessary: use your whit, try to be clever, use humour, but if you do so in a dickish way, prepare for your message to be ignored.
I've noticed the same desire to "grow the movement," and that might be roughly what Phil means by "don't be a dick": don't do anything that might push people out of skepticism, or make them not call themselves skeptics. Which seems a silly thing; who cares what someone calls themselves? Who cares how many people come to TAM? If someone wants to care about those things, more power to them, but I don't see a compelling reason why everyone should.ReplyDelete
Plus there's the point that the attempt to not push people away is pushing people away. Just another kind of person. Maybe those people are undesirables or something, though. We don't want them anyway, right?
Tom: You're right. Sagan was wrong about the whole Velikovsky thing. Dead wrong. I was unaware that in order to revere someone we had to revere every single argument that person ever made. My point about Sagan--my only point--was that, while he seemed soft and fluffy, he wasn't preoccupied (like Phil is) with the possibility that some people might think that those who defend scientific knowledge are "dicks." If I seem like I hold St. Carl in rather high esteem, it's because I do. But I hope I'm able to view my heroes soberly--which would include acknowledging when they are dead wrong (which, I believe I just did above).ReplyDelete
"We can worry about growing the ranks and playing patty-cake with believers once we've gotten to the point that our very existence isn't taboo. Until then, we need the "warriors" at least as much as the "diplomats.""
Very well put. The warriors--let's remember--are how the rest of the population knows we even exist.
@ PomboloReplyDelete
I gotta come back to the aristo thing. Plait just doesn't see Matt D. as part of the club because Matt lacks the requisite letter assortment after his surname.
How sad. This sort of facile credentialism is the LAST thing our movement - such as it is - needs.
Let's call it, oh I dunno... being a PhDick?
@ Tom Foss
Good point about Sagan. Nobody, but nobody, should get a pass on legitimate criticism.
And it is, in fact, downright remarkable how conservative - no other word for it - the gay rights movement has become. Marriage. Adopting children. Military service. Especially for those of us old enough to remember the ACT-UP days or going even further back to Stonewall.
As an old-skool, small-c conservative, as well as the proud owner of an autographed Sylvester album, this makes me smile.
You haven't really said anything new. It might be more fruitful if you addressed the specific points Matt D. brought up in his critique of Phil's speech.
Regarding the image you invoke of atheists being dicks to the polite believers during internet discussions, I really disagree with you. My experience, anectdotal of course, just as yours, is that a high percentage of the time the theist is the one showing their ass. This seems to almost be the norm from anonymous posters to high end theologians. Foul language is not necessary for dickishness. So many people are just too sensitive about curse words. The most dickish, and downright rude, snooty and boorish, comments I have seen usually contain no curse words, and in fact are often littered with the grandest most self important verbiage one could imagine.
With regards specifically to theists in the "skeptical crowd", if they don't want their religious beliefs "torn apart" then they shouldn't bring them up during a discussion with other skeptics. After all skepticism in general is about dismantling woo.
It is fairly typical for theists to cry dick no matter the tone of an argument against their beliefs. What I find curious about this situation is that the theist skeptics do not see that they are being just as dickish to proponents of other types of woo as they claim atheist skeptics are to them.
Maybe, like that Aussie comic likes to say, everyone in the skeptic community just needs to "harden the fuck up".
Arouet said:ReplyDelete
"Do we really need Phil Plait to go through and find examples? We've all seen them, on various forums."
Yes we really do. Or we do, if we want to understand exactly who Phil is trying to get to tone it down. Clearly people have different perceptions of what "being a dick" is... which is normal --since it's an "opinion"-- not a fact. No doubt, moon-landing deniers think Phil is a dick. I found his speech dickish, accommodationistic, prejudice promoting, and generally unhelpful in getting people to be less dickish. But I'm willing to change my mind with evidence that telling people not to be dicks helps make skeptics more inclusive(or whatever his goal was.)
I find your post dickish in that you are suggesting that Phil, you, and others all have the same opinion of what this "dickishness" is, but none of you are providing anything so we cannot know. Like believers in god, you all get to assume you believe in the same thing and then confirm your biases accordingly-- not very skeptical, in my opinion. We cannot even compare to see if you are more dickish than those you think of as dicks nor can we examine the effect it has.
No doubt lots of people think Matt is dickish, but I suspect he furthers the cause of rational thinking far more than those accusing him of being a dick. I suspect I'd find those who think Matt is a dick to be much bigger dicks than they think Matt is.
"Fact is, being a dick often causes one's point to be lost. The recipient focuses solely on the insult, and ignores the content."ReplyDelete
On the other hand, the "dick" can call the other person out on his or her appeal to the Style over Substance Fallacy.
The Style over Substance Fallacy is one of my favorite fallacies because its identification as a fallacy can be a way to counter the all-too-common "Wah wah wah... I don't care what you said because you were mean to me!" response.
Darrell E. said: I respect the guy and his accomplishments, but the vibe I get these days from him is that of a politician more worried about his image and fame than he ought to be.ReplyDelete
I'm so glad to read this from someone. I was afraid that I was the only person who believed this, and that I was being petty.
Frankly, I'm baffled that so many are so pleased with Phil's speech, and seem to hail it as an example of a message of brotherhood. Every time I view the video, I can't help but feel anything besides a sense of scorn and venom coming from Phil. The parts where he tells the applauding crowd "I don't need it" strike me as particularly.... well.... dickish!
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This blog encourages long post's the behavior from dië commenters is similar....
Do we really need Phil Plait to go through and find examples?
No, but I wish someone - anyone - would.
I gotta come back to the aristo thing. Plait just doesn't see Matt D. as part of the club because Matt lacks the requisite letter assortment after his surname.
It seems Phil, like Mooneybaum, isn't interested in having any kind of dialogue on this issue. I am tempted to think he is concern trolling.
Andy: I was unaware that in order to revere someone we had to revere every single argument that person ever made.ReplyDelete
Yes, clearly that's the argument I was making.
My point was that saying that Phil is nothing like Sagan, because Phil has here engaged in some wildly unskeptical arguments, is not necessarily the case. Neither Phil nor Carl is/was perfect, or perfectly skeptical.
I also hold Sagan in high esteem. Demon-Haunted World is my favorite non-fiction book, period. And I've never read anything by Sagan that goes wrong in the way that Phil goes wrong here (although there's a bit in that same book where Sagan calls himself agnostic and makes a comment about how atheists are "certain", which has similar traits). But when we start saying "Sagan would never...," I think we're getting into a fairly tricky territory. For one, we can't exactly ask him, and for another, it's a subtle distinction between "Sagan wouldn't say that because it contradicts other things he said" and "Sagan wouldn't say that because he wouldn't make that kind of stupid mistake." Phil may be more like Sagan that we're comfortable accepting.
Also, Sagan wasn't "dead wrong" about Velikovsky, he just used poor arguments when he didn't have to.
George: I gotta come back to the aristo thing. Plait just doesn't see Matt D. as part of the club because Matt lacks the requisite letter assortment after his surname.
I don't know if that's fair--there's no string of letters after Randi's name either, and Plait would certainly respond to him. It may be fair to say that Matt's not a big enough "name" in the "community," and Phil probably sees this as the kind of low Internet squabbling that he doesn't want to be involved in. Of course, if he didn't want to get involved, he shouldn't have commented in the first place, and refusing to answer the criticism is pretty dickish, but that's the kind of hole you dig when you start in on this "my way is the right way" kind of idiocy.
Arouet: It is fairly typical for theists to cry dick no matter the tone of an argument against their beliefs.
And this is a key point. Theists tend to read whatever tone they expect into Internet comments, and they'll take any excuse they can to dismiss the arguments--even if it's an excuse they make up.
And they tend to expect a free pass on being a dick--or at least don't think quote mining, dodging questions, changing the subject, crowing victory prematurely, stereotyping their opponents, and threatening eternal torture as being dick moves. Again, my definition differs.
When just acknowledging atheists existence (ie putting up billboards that just say to other non-believers that "You are not alone") is considered dickish by believers, wtf are atheists supposed to do?ReplyDelete
And if we're allowed to work for our causes but just supposed to pretend to be nice, that is IMHO pure dickishness. It really kinda pisses me off when the believers pull their smug ass nicey nice act they play as soon as you enter into an argument with them. (which isn't to say they're being nice normally is an act, its just that when you enter into an argument they try to overplay their niceness like they are fucking goodness incarnate and then throw their condescending "i'll pray for you to understand, I know the truth and you'll eventually get there if you just trust jesus and blah blah blah.")
The message is apparently, atheists, sit down, shut up, know your place, get back in the kitchen!..wait, what?
"Regarding the image you invoke of atheists being dicks to the polite believers during internet discussions, I really disagree with you. My experience, anectdotal of course, just as yours, is that a high percentage of the time the theist is the one showing their ass."ReplyDelete
Youtube is full of atheists who skop argumentation and go right to insults.
Then again, it's the internet. And it's also youtube....
Maybe the message should be "Don't take the internet so seriously."
[Do we really need Phil Plait to go through and find examples? We've all seen them, on various forums.]ReplyDelete
Yes, he needs to. That's the whole point. I find many people claiming this rude or mean attitude, but I don't see it as some big trend at all. I find instances where someone reacts to their ideas being challenged. but I'm not convinced it's about how their ideas are being challenged. Unless specifics are given, I don't know where this arbitrary "dick line" is or when I'm crossing it. We've seen one example so far and we mostly admit this was not an advisable approach. But this is rare, not common, when I go looking through forums.
The claim seems to be that this dickishness is "everywhere", but I really don't see it. Even on YouTube, possibly the least high brow of discourse, I most often find atheists using arguments not insults. Actually the atheist/ theist discussions on YouTube are the rare videos that don't immediately invoke racists, bigots and nationalists.
It's almost like you are saying it "feels like" people are being mean all the time, but you can't show examples. I'm open to the evidence proving me wrong, but a general feeling isn't evidence.
I've lost some respect for Phil Plait over this. It's regrettable because it was so damn avoidable.ReplyDelete
I didn't lose respect for him for his original speech. But after Matt pointed out so cogently that Phil made an emotional appeal, I felt he was obligated to respond.
What made me lose respect for him was the nature of the response: his dismissive and dishonest defense in part 2, his refusal to answer Matt's criticisms in any way after being called out on being dishonest, and a Part 3 post where the argument seems to be "but look how happy it made the theists in the skeptic community!". And now it appears the case is closed from his perspective.
To be clear, it's not the fact that he made the emotional appeal in the first place. Anyone can make a mistake. It's his adamant refusal to either admit error or give a valid response.
I respect his work as a popularizer of science, but until he mans up and either admits his error or provides a valid counter argument, I can't respect him as a skeptic after this.
magx01 said...ReplyDelete
"Youtube is full of atheists who skop argumentation and go right to insults."
As I wrote on this topic on another blog.
Obviously there are instances of flat out uncalled for, improper, unhelpful dickishness by atheists. But as numerous people have already asked, show me that this type of behavior is displayed frequently enough to be a real problem. I am skeptical about that.
"Then again, it's the internet. And it's also youtube....
Maybe the message should be "Don't take the internet so seriously.""
Yeah. I think you are correct in that there is a lot of unimportant crap on the internet and I fully agree with this sentiment. But some ideas are important for various reasons. And the internet is becoming more and more an integral part of our culture that does affect the way people act in meat space.
"I like the idea of Boobquake for many reasons. It's an excellent display of physical mockery, which is a great way to raise awareness. It also resonates in American culture because we have so many people who are so twisted up about such things morally; I support poking them in the eye with this kind of thing as well."ReplyDelete
"Now, Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) is batguano insane...Her viewpoints are so bizarre and skewed that her biography would have to be written on a Moebius strip."
--Phil Plait
Phil has no problem being a dick to moon hoaxers or other "safe targets", and even says Boobquake was good specifically because it was dickish (if boobs could be dickish).
The main issue I think (although I haven't looked into all the backstory for it) is that Pamela Gay is his friend, and he's upset because other people were talking about her skepticred.
He's like a guy who's for the death penalty because his friend or whatever was murdered, he knows all the logical arguments, but doesn't care because he wants the guy who did it to die. His judgement on the issue may be skewed and as such should probably salvage what he can and bow out for now until he can come at it less emotionally.
Is there room in the skeptical community to improve relations with theists, sure. But the answer isn't to just have the atheists shut up.
and a Part 3 post where the argument seems to be "but look how happy it made the theists in the skeptic community!".ReplyDelete
He was also saying "These people and I disagree, but we're still friends!"
And that's all well and good, as I have theistic friends, ghost-believing friends, friends who use alternative medicine, friends with whacko political ideologies, and so forth. And when the topic comes up, I usually tell them I think what they believe is stupid. And we get into it for a bit and call each other names and then we go get Chinese. Throughout the "dickish" behavior between good friends, there was never any real animosity, because we're friends. If your friends up and leave you the first time you say "Are you retarded or something?" then I can't say I think much of the strength of your friendships.
This whole nicey-nicey goody-two-shoes crap is making me nauseous.
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You'll need a plastic container, so go rummage around in your recycling. It doesn't have to be transparent, but the plastic does have to be reasonably flexible if you are going to punch through it with a regular hole puncher. If you have something like a Dremel that you can use to drill holes then you don't have to limited by that. You do need to make sure that your crochet hook can fit through the holes you drill though! I've happily used a hand punch on all the baskets that are shown here (except the tiny necklace one) The easiest to punch through was the yoghurt pot.
If you've got a container with labels on then weight it down in some water to soak them and make them easier to peel off.
It's handy to note that if you have a container that has printing on it that you want to get rid of first, then giving it a scrub with a Mr Clean Magic Eraser or similar product will take off the printing (on a transparent plastic it will make it translucent though) here's the yoghurt pot with some of the printing scrubbed off.
From here on out you can just wing it really to get the shape you want from your basket top. Each basket I've made has been different and I kind of like the "make it up as you go" way that these come together. With this one it looks like i made two single crochet stitches into each of the base round stitches, but generally if you do just one stitch into each of the base round stitches then the top will start to pull in like the style of the larger ones I've posted pictures of in this thread.
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|Sensory Biology and Intelligence
|Chapter 7
|[241-262] See Evidence that birds are smarter than you!
|Mar 13
|Mid-term exam
|Lectures through Communication: Visual AND Vocal; all associated readings
|Click here to view a Sample Test
|March 18-22
|11 &12
|Mar 25
|Communication: Visual AND Vocal
|Pgs. 344-359 and Chapter 8 AND watch Communication in Birds Video
|Manakins show off -- Michael Jackson rolls over!
|Mar 27
|Annual Cycles
|Chapter 9
|April 1
|Chapter 10 (pgs. 273-295)
|April 3
|Chapter 10 (pgs. 295-306)
|April 8
|Social Behavior
|Chapter 11
|Apr 10
|Reproduction: Mating Behavior
|Pg. 359 through Chapter 13
|Apr 15
|ttp:// Reproduction: Physiology
|Chapter 14
|Apr 17
|Reproduction: Nests and Nesting
|Chapter 15
|Apr 22
|Reproduction: Growth and Development of Young
|Chapter 16 (pgs. 467-482)
|Apr 24
|Reproduction: Parental Care
|Chapter 16 (pgs. 482-502)
|April 29
|Avian Conservation
|Chapter 21, pgs. 558 - 569
|May 1
|Climate Change & Birds
|Pgs. 269 - 271
| US Forest Service Climate Change Bird (& Tree) Atlas showing how bird distributions will change with changes in climate.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's web page.The Arbor Day Foundation's maps showing changes in hardiness zones since 1990.NOAA Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory's sea ice projections.
|May 8
|FINAL EXAM in our regular classroom
|10:30-12:30 am
Course Guidelines and Grading Policies
Use of electronics in the classroom? In a word, NO. Your phone should be OFF (not set to vibrate), your music should be off, your earphones should be in your backpack, and your laptop should be used ONLY for taking notes. All other uses (surfing the web, watching videos, email, IM, texting, whatever) are distracting, disruptive of the work we are doing in the classroom, and disrespectful of your classmates and the instructor. I will call you out publicly for the first offense; at the second offense you will be banned from using even a laptop in class; on the third offense I will ask you to leave. If you lack the self-restraint to stay on task in class, then take notes on paper. Recording lectures with any device is prohibited unless you ask for and receive permission from me in writing.
Entering or Leaving the classroom during a lecture is distracting and disruptive; do not do it unless absolutely necessary. If you know you will be late, or will have to leave early, come and go by the BACK door of the lecture hall, and sit in the nearest available seat to the door, whether you know the person sitting in the next seat or not. I will assume that, as adults, we are all capable of anticipating, and managing, the need to use the bathroom without leaving the classroom during a lecture. Assume that if you must leave the lecture hall, you may not come back. If you have a disability that would keep you from meeting these expectations, or expect an emergency communication during class, speak to me about it BEFORE lecture begins.
Grading in this course is done on a straight percentage-of-points basis, i.e., to obtain an A, you need to earn 90% or more of the available points on tests, minute papers, quizzes and other assignments and activities (e.g., Twitter). The grades will not be "curved", and there will be no opportunities for "make-up" or "extra-credit" points. Opportunities to miss/drop your lowest grades are built into the recurring assignments (see below), but these are to account for, e.g., sick days, so do not skip assignments frivolously. If you have a legitimate reason (e.g., a death in the family) to miss the midterm, you may be excused (at the discretion of the instructor) IF AND ONLY IF you provide written documentation (for example,an obituary documenting a death in your family). In cases where you have a legitimate excuse, there still will be no make-ups administered: your grade will be pro-rated on the basis of the points contained in the tests and assignments you did complete. NOTE that this method reduces the number of points you can afford to lose and still do well in the course. If you have a legitimate excuse to miss the final exam YOU MUST INFORM THE OFFICE OF STUDENT SERVICES & ADVOCACY in order to be allowed to take a make-up after final exam week is over. The final exam is the only point-bearing exercise for which a make-up is possible.
Attendance is not taken, and is not required; however, if you miss class you may miss in-class minute papers, quizzes or assignments (see below). SICK? Believe me when I say that we don't want to see you in class! Please be responsible, and don't spread germs by coming to class with a fever, or hacking and coughing. As noted above, there are no opportunities for making-up missed in-class activities; as noted below, you can miss up to two and still achieve full credit. However, bear in mind that you may also miss information I give, discussions that arise over questions asked, examples given on the spur of the moment. You are responsible, on quizzes and tests, for what is said in class, as well as the materials in the reading. If you miss class, you are responsible for using the lecture materials provided above, and for getting any additional notes from lecture from a classmate: I will not re-lecture to you, one-on-one, at a later appointment. Arrive early to the next lecture, or stay a little late, and find out whether you missed an in-class minute paper, quiz or activity; do not ask me to meet with you outside of class to "tell you what you missed".
These policies have been developed over years of teaching this and other courses, and are designed to ensure fair treatment of everyone by maximizing everyone's opportunity to learn, eliminating discrepancies in testing and evaluation, and by eliminating differences in the amount of study time available to students. I am very willing to discuss my reasoning for these policies, but if you try to talk me into making an exception to them for you, you will fail, and probably make me grumpy to boot.
Tests/ In-class Assessments & Assignments
Exams: 200 points
Midterm exam: 100 points, March 13 (Covers material from Lectures 1 - 12)
Final exam: 100 points, May 8 (Covers material from Lectures 14-25)
Click here to view a Sample Test
In-class Assessments & Assignments: 50 points (5 points each; one per week [excepting the week of the midterm]; we will drop your lowest two scores; if you miss, your score = 0)
These activities are designed to provide us with an assessment of your background preparation for class, to assess whether you understood what we just tried to teach you, and to enhance your understanding of the material. They will take multiple forms: MINUTE PAPERS: are short (it takes a minute!), UNGRADED (if you write something relevant, you're good -- there are no "right" answers) responses to questions we will pose in class. QUIZZES are GRADED, provide practice for the exams, assess your knowledge and understanding, and provide incentive to stay on top of the material. ASSIGNMENTS are GRADED and require you to do some background work BEFORE COMING TO CLASS; you are responsible for checking the class web page every week --- we recommend checking every Friday to see what's in store for the following week. Snow days and other unforseen circumstances can change our plans; a class cancellation should prompt you to check the web page.
Other Required Class Activities
Biological Collections tour 5 points
Every student is expected to visit the EEB Biological Collections for a tour that will introduce you to the resources and opportunities in the collection. We will offer 4 different opportunities, on different days and times. You will need to sign in at the collection; at the end of the semester, everyone who has signed in, will have 5 points added to their grade. Tours will take about 45 minutes, they meet at the south end of the Biology/Physics building lobby on the hour. You are responsible for finding a day and time to attend from the options listed below; if your class schedule prohibits you from attending any of these, you are responsible for letting me know that you will need an alternate opportunity BEFORE THE LAST WEEK OF CLASS. If you have already toured the collections (e.g., in a previous class with me or another instructor), provide me with documentation to that effect, and I will just add the 5 points to your grade without you needing to tour the collections again.
Available tour days/times:
Monday 18 Feb 9 am
Wednesday 6 Mar 12 pm
1. Amandeep Samra 2. Krista Wolffer 3. Meghan Moore 4. James Stewart 5. Hadlai Neff 6. Alexandra Addabbo 7. Lisa Balestrino 8. Meghan Moore 9. Stephanie Henry 10. Muhammed Abubakar 11. Mary Ward 12. Keith Syrett 13. Chelsey Gribbin 14. Marissa Mills 15. Taylor Barry
Thursday 28 Mar 3 pm
1. Jaron Kolek 2. Kevin Canavan 3. Laura Rice 4. Michael Cenkus
If you are not signed up for a collections tour date, email Manette. Do not show up on Wednesday March 6th if you are not signed up for that collections tour! We cannot have more than 15 people on a collections tour at once!
Twitter 30 points
Twitter is a social networking resource that allows users to communicate in short, frequent posts. Posts ("tweets") are limited to 140 characters. I expect you to go to Twitter, sign up (a matter of giving an email address and picking a password and username), and, over the course of the semester, post observations of birds outside of class. Your posts should consist of any observation of birds you make that somehow relates to the content of the course. Each post should say: where you are; what you are seeing in the birdlife around you; and make the connection to the course content. For example: "Two sparrows are beating each other up outside the student union. Territoriality or dominance fight?" You are expected to post at least once per week. Posts are worth a maximum of three points each, you can earn up to 6 points from posts per week, and you can earn a total of 30 points in the course from Tweets. We must know your username in order to give you credit for Twitter posts: once your account is in place, then use "Find People" on Twitter to locate us (type in "Margaret Rubega" or "ProfRubega" and "Manette Sandor" or "Oikomemoranda") and then click on "Follow" to follow us. We will receive autumated messages informing us that you are following us, and will have a record of your user name. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PRIVACY SETTINGS ALLOW ANYONE TO SEE YOU. (If you do not wish your personal account to be visible, establish a second account/username with "open" privacy settings for our class.) In addition, the "Twitter Handle" assignment sheet is due by our Wednesday class in the second week of classes. You MUST end every tweet with the string "#birdclass"; that is how we will be tracking tweets, and any post without the hashtag will NOT count toward your credit! We will all be able to see every tweet generated by the class by searching on #birdclass. We will be keeping track of posting and points during the semester by tracking the posts themselves. The beauty of Twitter is that it can be posted to virtually at any time, anywhere --- it's possible to post using many types of cell phones. However, anyone with an internet connection can post from a computer, and you should be mindful (as you are responsible for) of any texting charges that posting from your phone may incur.
Academic Rules/Conduct
All students should be aware of the guidelines on academic integrity contained in the Student Conduct Code. Click here to see the Conduct Code.
Course Guidelines Form
After you have read ALL of the above, print out and sign the Course Guidelines Form. Hand it in to Dr. Rubega no later than the end of the last lecture of the 2nd week of classes. Students who have not signed and handed in the form in will not accumulate points on ANY quiz, assignment or activity until we have the signed form.
If you have questions, by all means stop me in class or email me and ask. I will post both the questions (questioners will be anonymous) and answers here.
Bird News
A link to a page set up and maintained by Dr. Elphick.
Useful and Amusing Links
Environmental Campaign Internships
CT Beardsley Zoo Summer Internships
Awesome National Geographic article on feather evolution in dinosaurs
Jobs in Ornithology, the job board for the Ornithological Societies of North America. THE central clearing house for field research internships and jobs.
UConn Ornithology Collections Donation Page -- where to go if you find a dead bird! University of Connecticut Biological Collections, including the Bird Collection.
Feather Identification Resource Online! The Feather Atlas of North American Birds provided high-resolution scans of flight feathers of the major groups of birds; useful for comparison with found feathers whose origin you aren't sure of.
Images of Bird Wings Online. The Slater Museum, at the University of Puget Sound, provides high-resolution images of their entire collection of spread (open) bird wings. Useful for studying flight style as a function of wing morphology.


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A cis-eQTL in PFKFB2 is associated with diabetic nephropathy, adiposity and insulin secretion in American Indians.. Hum Mol Genet. 24(10):2985-96.. 2015.
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"Brain response to visual, tactile and auditory flow in sighted and blind individuals supports a supramodal functional organization in hMT complex", in Proc. 12th International Conference on Functional Mapping of Human Brain Mapping, 2006, vol. 31, p. 512 TH-P.,
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"Perception of Optic and Tactile Flow Both Activate V5/MT cortical complex in the human brain", in 10th Annual Meeting of the Organization for Human Brain Mapping, 2004.,
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- 6 bolt disc, Shimano 10/11 speed, SRAM XD driver available separately
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Tubeless-ready rims and tires are parts of a complete system that eliminate the need for tubes by creating an airtight chamber between the rim and tire. Liquid sealant is added to the chamber to fill small punctures and maintain air pressure while you ride.
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|Rim Material
|Brake Compatibility
|6-bolt disc
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|Outer Rim Width
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Hallowed be Thy Name;
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
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The call works as should. No bugs.
But. In most cases you won't able to work with pipes in blocking mode.
When your output pipe (process' input one, $pipes[0]) is blocking, there is a case, when you and the process are blocked on output.
When your input pipe (process' output one, $pipes[1]) is blocking, there is a case, when you and the process both are blocked on own input.
So you should switch pipes into NONBLOCKING mode (stream_set_blocking).
Then, there is a case, when you're not able to read anything (fread($pipes[1],...) == "") either write (fwrite($pipes[0],...) == 0). In this case, you better check the process is alive (proc_get_status) and if it still is - wait for some time (stream_select). The situation is truly asynchronous, the process may be busy working, processing your data.
Using shell effectively makes not possible to know whether the command is exists - proc_open always returns valid resource. You may even write some data into it (into shell, actually). But eventually it will terminate, so check the process status regularly.
I would advice not using mkfifo-pipes, because filesystem fifo-pipe (mkfifo) blocks open/fopen call (!!!) until somebody opens other side (unix-related behavior). In case the pipe is opened not by shell and the command is crashed or is not exists you will be blocked forever.


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BG Reynold's Passion Fruit Syrup / 12.7 oz.
Not Shippable. Western New York Local Delivery and In-Store Pickup only.
Why Can't We Ship This Item?
For certain products, like beer, we're unable to ship due to state laws. For other items, the item may be at a size that's incompatible with our shipping capabilities or may be too fragile/perishable to ship. For most of these items, we still offer in-store pickup and local delivery options.
More About Local Delivery/In-Store Pickup
We offer same day local delivery to certain zip codes around our store. If local delivery is available to you, the local delivery option will come up as a shipping option when you enter your zip code in the cart or at checkout.
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- 12.3 oz. bottle.
- An all-natural cocktail syrup.
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- Use in zero-proof cocktails for complex and exotic flavor.
- Used in Hurricane, Lost Lake, Zombie, and other tropical drinks.
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Version: 330114 (ubuntu - 24/10/10)
Section: 1 (Commandes utilisateur)
NAMEat, batch, atq, atrm - queue, examine or delete jobs for later execution
SYNOPSISat [-V] [-q queue] [-f file] [-mldv] timespec...
at [-V] [-q queue] [-f file] [-mkdv] [-t time]
at -c job [job...]
atq [-V] [-q queue]
atrm [-V] job [job...]
at -b
DESCRIPTIONat and batch read commands from standard input or a specified file which are to be executed at a later time, using /bin/sh.
- at
- executes commands at a specified time.
- atq
- lists the user's pending jobs, unless the user is the superuser; in that case, everybody's jobs are listed. The format of the output lines (one for each job) is: Job number, date, hour, queue, and username.
- atrm
- deletes jobs, identified by their job number.
- batch
- executes commands when system load levels permit; in other words, when the load average drops below 1.5, or the value specified in the invocation of atd.
At allows fairly complex time specifications, extending the POSIX.2 standard. It accepts times of the form HH:MM to run a job at a specific time of day. (If that time is already past, the next day is assumed.) You may also specify midnight, noon, or teatime (4pm) and you can have a time-of-day suffixed with AM or PM for running in the morning or the evening. You can also say what day the job will be run, by giving a date in the form month-name day with an optional year, or giving a date of the form MMDD[CC]YY, MM/DD/[CC]YY, DD.MM.[CC]YY or [CC]YY-MM-DD. The specification of a date must follow the specification of the time of day. You can also give times like now + count time-units, where the time-units can be minutes, hours, days, or weeks and you can tell at to run the job today by suffixing the time with today and to run the job tomorrow by suffixing the time with tomorrow.
For example, to run a job at 4pm three days from now, you would do at 4pm + 3 days, to run a job at 10:00am on July 31, you would do at 10am Jul 31 and to run a job at 1am tomorrow, you would do at 1am tomorrow.
The exact definition of the time specification can be found in /usr/share/doc/at/timespec.
For both at and batch, commands are read from standard input or the file specified with the -f option and executed. The working directory, the environment (except for the variables BASH_VERSINFO, DISPLAY, EUID, GROUPS, SHELLOPTS, TERM, UID, and _) and the umask are retained from the time of invocation.
As at is currently implemented as a setuid program, other environment variables (e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_PRELOAD) are also not exported. This may change in the future. As a workaround, set these variables explicitly in your job.
An at - or batch - command invoked from a su(1) shell will retain the current userid. The user will be mailed standard error and standard output from his commands, if any. Mail will be sent using the command /usr/sbin/sendmail. If at is executed from a su(1) shell, the owner of the login shell will receive the mail.
The superuser may use these commands in any case. For other users, permission to use at is determined by the files /etc/at.allow and /etc/at.deny.
If the file /etc/at.allow exists, only usernames mentioned in it are allowed to use at.
If /etc/at.allow does not exist, /etc/at.deny is checked, every username not mentioned in it is then allowed to use at.
If neither exists, only the superuser is allowed use of at.
An empty /etc/at.deny means that every user is allowed use these commands, this is the default configuration.
- prints the version number to standard error and exit successfully.
- -q queue
- uses the specified queue. A queue designation consists of a single letter; valid queue designations range from a to z. and A to Z. The a queue is the default for at and the b queue for batch. Queues with higher letters run with increased niceness. The special queue "=" is reserved for jobs which are currently running.
If a job is submitted to a queue designated with an uppercase letter, the job is treated as if it were submitted to batch at the time of the job. Once the time is reached, the batch processing rules with respect to load average apply. If atq is given a specific queue, it will only show jobs pending in that queue.
- -m
- Send mail to the user when the job has completed even if there was no output.
- -f file
- Reads the job from file rather than standard input.
- -t time
- run the job at time, given in the format [[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.ss]
- -l
- Is an alias for atq.
- -d
- Is an alias for atrm.
- -b
- is an alias for batch.
- -v
- Shows the time the job will be executed before reading the job.
Times displayed will be in the format "Thu Feb 20 14:50:00 1997".
- -c
- cats the jobs listed on the command line to standard output.
SEE ALSOcron(1), nice(1), sh(1), umask(2), atd(8).
BUGSThe correct operation of batch for Linux depends on the presence of a proc- type directory mounted on /proc.
If the file /var/run/utmp is not available or corrupted, or if the user is not logged on at the time at is invoked, the mail is sent to the userid found in the environment variable LOGNAME. If that is undefined or empty, the current userid is assumed.
At and batch as presently implemented are not suitable when users are competing for resources. If this is the case for your site, you might want to consider another batch system, such as nqs.
AUTHORAt was mostly written by Thomas Koenig, firstname.lastname@example.com.
Contenus ©2006-2023 Benjamin Poulain
Design ©2006-2023 Maxime Vantorre