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and Honda. I know that Honda is more reliable but
Hyundai has a better warrenty. I need help.
After considering both cars, I went with the Hyundai. The Civic is a nice automobile but the Hyundai gives you more car for the money. The Civic is somewhat more refined, the ride is a tad more smooth. The Hyundai though has a more powerful engine (except for the Civic SI) and holds the road better. At highway speeds passing other cars with the Elantra is not a problem. For around 13K you get power mirrors, power door locks, power windows, map lights, AC, auto trans, rear def. You can also add ABS and a moonroof.
As for reliability, Hyundai is believed to have improved considerably. I do not know if this is the case since I have owned my vehicle for all of six months. I did develop a minor problem with my horn that was promptly fixed by the dealer. You would be covered for 5 years/60K bumper to bumper.
I believe that the car has a solid feel to it. Closing the doors greets you with a considerable thunk and the fit and finish is fine for a car in this class range. Overall, I am very satisfied with my vehicle.0
before i bought my elntra i was also deciding on the civic but I had already owned one, I didn't need two civics at one time. I do notice on hiways that slight gusts of wind would make the civic unstable and hard to control. The elantra is more stable, possibly because of wider tires and stiffer suspension. But it means you'll get a stiffer ride. Elantra also takes turns better.0
Is the elantra reliable?0
I quoted some months back some very impressive data about Hyundia and reliability. Hyundia sales have jumped considerably in the last 3 years, right along with their customer satisfaction and reliability ratings. I put these numbers in a Hyundia vs....?? room. I am sorry I don't remember which room. What I do remember was the numbers were impressive and gathered by an agency that was not affiliated with Hyundai, totally independent. I too was one of those folks who bashed Hyundia and thought they were second rate, until I read the article that is. Frankly, test drive, test drive, test drive.0
Hyundai went with the 10 year warranty as a desperate act. They were frantically trying to restore confidence since they had such a dismal repair record.
Read the fine print on these warranties!
The best warranty is the one you never have to use!
Also, please consider the resale down the road. Hyundais are almost impossible to unload as used cars. They are almost as bad as Kia!
It's the total long term cost of ownership that really counts in the long run!0
Here we go again, resale. Don't forget a Hyundia also sells for Thousands, and Thousands less than a comparable Honda/Toyota for the same options. Now, I am not defending Hyundia, I don't own one. But after reading the data and the article showing how reliability/quality/customer satisfaction has jumped considerably, my whole attitude towards Hyundia changed.0
Please notice that the post about Hyundai's "desperate" act was written by someone named "isellhondas". There is nothing wrong with liking Hondas, I had a CRX that I really liked. But bashing a company for providing an outstanding warranty is uncalled for. I would conclude that he/she is the desperate one. Hyundai is and has been the fastest growing car company in the U.S. over the last year and is poised to overtake Mitsubishi's U.S. sales figures. BTW, I am not affiliated with Hyundai, just a happy owner of 3 new Hyundais.
I think almost everybody would agree that the earlier Hyundais were pretty sad. The ten year warranty is a marketing tool and nothing more.
I agree that they are probably better than in the past. Still, for the money, I would much rather buy something used with a better record.
and...no, it doesn't have to be a Honda either. I just think there are MUCH better choices but, that's just my opinion.
the terrible resale values speak for themselves.0
And so does your name.
Maybe this buyer would like to hear from someone who has owned a Hyundai. Not someone spewing propaganda about the cars they sell. Early Hyundai's were crap, most everyone can agree on that. And the warranty is partially to ease the mind of potential buyers who only remember the late 80's - early 90's Excels.
But that "marketing tool" will help resale values as it carries over to used Hyundai buyers also. Do you remember when early Honda's were being bashed for poor quality and reliability? I sure do. Hyundai has grown up and learned from early mistakes (like Honda).
Hyundai Elantra's have more horsepower, a longer warranty, more standard features, and are a few thousand less than a Civic. Now that speaks for itself.
I'm sure this person plans on test driving both makes. Why don't you give it a try? We won't tell any of your co-workers. You might be pleasantly surprised.
bluffhouse Posts: 33This topic sounds a lot like the Leganza topics. A lot of satisfied owners, and a doom and gloom Honda sales person or two. From what I can see, the Elantra is a cute little car. I can't speak for it's quality since I've never driven nor owned one, but if my Leganza's quality is any representation of Hyundai's, I'd say go for it. I can't see spending thousands more for a Civic and get a less fortified car. As a rebutal about the best warranty is one you never have to use, I think a warranty you have to use when needed is better than a warranty you don't have when you need one. If Hondas were that fool proof, what possible loss could Honda encounter offering a 200,000 mi warranty? What a concept, I don't think a 200,000 mi warranty is covering up for, nor indicating any weaknesses, do you?0
The fact is Hyundia/Kia/Daewoo have had record sales in the last 2 years with no end in sight. Fact is their quality/reliablity/customer satisfaction has skyrocketed. FAct is they sell these cars for thousands and thousands less than a comparably equipped Honda/Toyota. Seems like the Japanese have had their sights set on over taking Ford/GM/Dodge and forgot to look back once in a while, if they had they would have seen a screaming Korean auto industry on on their tail. Man, I wish I would have kept that data showing and supporting my attitude change for Korean vehicles. Granted I don't own one, but now they are on my future list to look at as an option.0
dawinner Posts: 1I was coming home last night from work and the engine siezed on my '92 Hyundai Excel. Funny, as I have been bragging lately that for such a "crappy" car, it has actually been quite good to me for almost 8 years.
It has had its share of problems, but mostly cosmetic and annoying (the glove box latch broke after 2 years, the dimmer switch fell out shortly after, the overhead light never worked right, the gauges could never be trusted - and after 5 years, the odometer/speedometer died - I think I had almost 120k on it before the engine died last night. But overall, no major problems. The only money I ever put into was for normal stuff - tires, brakes, oil, etc.
But I bought it right out of college because it was all I could afford at the time. I was never truly enamoured of it, but it got me from point A to point B ok. My wife hated it because it was "unsafe."
I am now eyeballing the Hyundai Elantra as 1) A good value; 2) In my budget and 3) Reliabe.
That is the key thing. Not only do I expect it to be as mechanically sound, but if things like knobs start falling off after a year or two, I would rather pay a couple thousand extra for a solid make.
Has this gotten better all around?0
And giving my opinion for what it's worth.
I have driven late model Hyundais and find them to be a vast improvement over the earlier models.
Sti,, I think they are pretty lackluster. I guess if a person is determined to buy a new rather than a used car, and initial price is the most important thing, they may not be a terrible choice.
Still, we cringe when a customer wants to trade one in. As a used car, they simply don't sell!
And, THAT is not my humbel opinion, it is reality!
When we call the local Hyundai dealers for buy bids, they either don't want them or bid thousands of dollars below book. Same applies with Kias.
I'm not here to bash anything, nor am I here to promote my own product. I am simply stating things from my perspective.
I do respect Hyundai for surviving against all odds!0
csmarmot Posts: 1A year ago I bought a 1999 Elantra base model, and is is a terrific car. I have 10,800 miles, have done some major road trips, and I'm completely satisfied.
When I bought it, I wanted a Civic. But my realistic choice was between a *used* Civic or a new Hyundai. The price on my Elantra was $10,600, and that was with zero miles, air conditioning, AM/FM cassette, and the 60/100K warranty... that's all standard.
For S10,600, I was looking at '96 model Civics with 30-50K miles! Hondas do hold their resale value, for sure, but if the choice is between a 3-year-old car with 30K and no warranty, or a new car...
As far as considering a *new* Honda, a base 3-door with air ($1000 option) and radio ($250 aftermarket) would have run almost $11,500. A 4-door would run over $13,000. By that time, you might as well consider an DX/EX for $15,000+, which brings it into base Camry, Tarus, etc. range. If you're going to pay $16K for a new small car, why not go for a recent used BMW 318ti?
The point is, nobody makes a base model car that comes remotely near the $11K Hyundai Elantra, period. If you were to debate the merits of the $14K GLS Hyundai vs. the $15K Civic DX/EX, then you've got a debate.... but that's no choice at all.
Hyundai sells a base model that you can live with, Honda doesn't.
And provided they have solved the reliability issues of the older ones, and assuming you plan to hold on it it long enough so that the resale isn't a problem, they might be a good choice.
But, just thinking, why not do one better, and buy a used Hyundai instead? These things take such a terrible depreciation beating in the first couple of years, that a 1 or 2 year old can be bought for a pittance! Now, that, in my opinion would be a much better value!
Some dealer would probably be tickled to sell a slow mover at a distressed price.0
bozse Posts: 1I had one of those "old Hyundais" you all are talking about. A 1989 Hyundai Excel. It was a great car. It's true that little things would go wrong, thermostat, rubber valve failing. But overall, a very reliable car. I went cross country twice in it, from New York City to Seattle and back. The "back" trip the long way, loaded down with a Sears carrier on top and my bike on back. I was so loaded down, I was only a few inches from the ground, and my car was so full inside I could only drive with my seat straight up. But we climbed several mountains, went through the desert through Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah Colorado, and on to Ohio. 4500 miles and no trouble. And would you like to know about safety?? The end came for my dear car when a 1964 Chevy Impala, coming toward me at 70mph on a 35mph street, spun out, hit me and totalled my car front to back on MY SIDE and I walked out of the accident without a scratch.
Now I have a Honda Civic, 1990. True, it has more power than my old car, but the reputation for Honda's lasting forever is overrated. I have had to spend at least a couple thousand dollars in repairs, and it's on it's last legs at 160,000 miles. I'm going to let the old girl die with dignity, but my new car will be an Elantra. Frankly, I just can't afford a Honda. True it may be a better car, but you can't always afford the best. Hyundai's are a very good second choice, especially since you get so much for the money. Look at Saturns too. They won't even give you air conditioning unless you buy the highest S model. If Hyundai's have improved since 1989, that's good enough for me since I was happy with my old car.
And by the way I have a theory about the old Hyundai's. They were cheap cars, so people treated them as throw away cars. I treated mine like a Cadillac, so it treated me back the same way.0
You mentioned that the Hyundai you drove was "pretty lackluster." How so?
As for Hyundai surviving against all odds. It is doing more than surviving it is breaking its own sales records. Some months sales increases have been 100% over last years.0
I'm glad you had good luck with your Hyundai. I'm sure many others would agree with you. I don't think they were horrible cars. I think though they reflected the low prices they sold for. In 1989, they were pretty crude when compared to other cars. Consumer Reports blasted them for poor reliability and listed them as a car to avoid.
You made a good point, though. Maybe the low price attracted buyers who skimped on oil changes and skipped important service visits.
Yeah, I think lackluster sums it up pretty well. They just don't do much for me. If you can please forget the fact I sell Hondas, I would MUCH rather spend the same amount and buy a used car I really like instead.
I feel the same way about Saturns. Buyers pay full MSRP for a car that isn't much more than a glorified Cavalier.
Please folks, I'm not here to promote Hondas or to slam Hyundais. I'm only stirring the pot by stating my opinions.
Given past reputation and the fact that they are SO hard to sell used, I just think there are better choices.
But...That is my humble opinion and I respect the fact that some will disagree with me!0
It's a good thing their sales have improved. They came close to extinction awhile back. ANY increase would be a big improvement.0
I agree with isellhonda's sentiments. Hyundais are better than they used to be but still can't compare to Hondas. Some may disagree with that. So be it. But I would take a used car that I knew was going to be reliable and that I knew would hold it's value before I would take a new car that may or may not live up to it's old reputation.
isellhondas is also correct on the resale value. People don't want them used. It is a car to buy if you want a NEW car but don't want to pay that much, just like Kia and Daewoo. It holds no water in the used car market.0
isell_ mitsus1, with all due respect I think that view is becoming dated. I'm thinking about purchasing a second Hyundai and have been looking at Kelly's Blue Book retail prices.
I paid 12.5K for my 2000 Elantra GLS. Kelly's list a 1999 Elantra GLS from 10,700 to 14,330. In fact when I compare the exact car that I bought, plug in the mileage I expect to do in a year (15K), I get a suggested retail value of $12,050. The 2000 Elantra depreciated all of $450 from the 1999 model. Not bad at all. Worse than average resale value I think is fast becoming another obsolete view of Hyundai.0
scruf Posts: 1The credibility of the maker is truly @ issue here. Honda builds a wonderful (if souless) automobile, and has for some time. It has not always been that way.
Hyundai build an unforgetably cheap car a few years back, and this has had an effect on thier image (rightfully).
Yet, the current models, if not market leaders, appear to be "ready for prime time".
Let me bring you back to '73-75. A Japanese motorcycle maker was beginning its importation of cars to the US. It quickly bacame known that these cars were practicaly undriveable while cold. This was bad for that fledgling automaker, now the #2 imported vehicle, of course this is Honda. Those vehicles were pretty undesirable used, too.
Is the Hyundai less desirable than the Honda? Right now, YES. But it is also 10% less, and if I had the choice of a stripped Civic, or an Elantra w/ AC, power goodies, and the warranty, well, I'd stop to think...0
Which car is more reliable and will last longer with no problems? A Hyundai Elantra or Honda Civic?0
I own both and they both have their share of problems. However, the civic has had a few major problems. Thank goodness for warranties.
The elantra i just got and it had some minor problems. Just treat them right and they'll last atleast a decade0
I get a good chuckle when these people tout Honda's "proven" reliability.
The thing is that Elantra is as reliable as Honda Civic.
In fact, early 90s Civic's AIS reliability rating is lower than the Elantra's and its reliability has been widely exaggerated by the owners over the years.0
andes: I would like you to find ANYTHING that backs up your statement that the Elantra is just as reliable as a Civic. I don't think you will find anything that comes even remotely close to saying that.
And to the person who said resale value was just as good for the Elantra...yeah right. I checked the trade for a 99 Elantra with 15k in excellent condition with all options (auto, roof, alloys, power pack, etc) and the trade was $10,---, a comparable Civic was worth $16,---.... you do the math.0
This is like dropping an A-bomb on the Civic Nation, but you asked for it, so,
here you go:
dryfus Posts: 20Isellmitsu says:
"I would like you to find ANYTHING that
backs up your statement that the Elantra is just as reliable as a Civic. I don't think you will find anything that comes even remotely close to saying that."
Looks like you have to eat your words.0
anyone that pays 16,000 for a used civic has some screws loose. You can get a new one for that price.
isell_mitsus1.... don't you think that those numbers are a little incorrect?... say one is wholesale (elantra) and the other is retail (civic).
The way i see it is that those numbers seemed to be doctored up....0
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Deluxe Guest Rooms - Our Deluxe, spacious 350 square feet guest rooms offer picturesque lake and mountain views and include coffee makers, hair dryers, a full-size iron and ironing board, individual climate controls, a comfortable seating area and windows that open to allow for a breath of fresh mountain air. Additional room amenities include two telephones, dual telephone lines, a dedicated work area and high speed Internet access, remote-controlled cable television, pay per view movies and Nintendo games.
Junior Suites - Our Junior Suite guest rooms offer our guests a choice of either a 640 square foot room with a golf-view or a 540 square foot room with a lake view. All Junior Suites have a separate parlor area featuring a sofa and comfortable seating with a 25" inch TV, a separate dining area and an adjoining well appointed bedroom with a queen size bed.
Lakeview Suites - Our Lakeview Suites delight our guests with their own private balcony off a fully furnished living room overlooking a dramatic view of the lake and mountain. Each suite creates an environment of luxury and comfort with a fireplace in the main living room, an oversized bedroom and spacious bathroom equipped with a whirlpool tub and a second full bath conviently located off the living area. Additional amenities include telephones in the living room and bedroom as well as a dedicated work area and high-speed wireless Internet access throughout the suite.
Presidential and Governor Suites - Our Presidential and Governor Suites are oversized and elegantly furnished. The living room includes a fireplace, a dining suite that can seat up to eight guests, a butlers kitchen, a large TV screen, and a half bath. The adjoining bedroom features a king sized bed, a full bath, overstuffed chairs, two telephone lines and a wide array of deluxe amenities.
Rocky Gap Lodge features:
* High-speed wireless internet access property-wide, including a portion of the outdoor seating areas and lake-front.
* Coffee-makers and complimentary coffee in every guest room
* Full sized steam irons and ironing boards
* Complimentary USA Today delivered to your guest room daily
* Private safes in every guest room
* Hair dryers
* Dedicated work area with ample lighting and seating
* Room Service
* Nightly turn-down service on request
* Two telephones, dual phone lines and individual voice mail
* Indoor / outdoor year-round swimming pool
* Whirlpool
* Exercise room
* Nintendo in every guest room
* Cable television
* Pay-per-view movies
* Same day dry cleaning and laundry (Mon - Friday)
* Alarm clocks, radios in every guest room
* Tennis courts
* Jogging path
* Yoga classes
* Self or valet parking
* Ice and vending machines
* Full-service gift shop
* Golf and sports shop featuring clothing, equipment and accessories
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* Driving range and putting green
* Golf Cars equipped with ProLink GPS (Global Positioning System)
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* Food and beverage carts on the golf courses
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* Signatures Bar and Grill
* Lakeside Lounge featuring appetizers, light fare
* Lakeside Restaurant open for breakfast, lunch and dinner
* Sumptuous Sunday Brunch buffet
* Conference, meeting and banquet facilities
* Tented outdoor banquet areas
* Outdoor fountains
* Specialty locations for wedding ceremonies and receptions
* Natural outdoor aviary
* A professional staff of wilderness, adventure and incentive planners
A distinct relationship exists between mind, body and spirit. At Rocky Gap Lodge and Resort, we strive to blend the beneficial aspects of traditional and ancient therapies and offer spa treatments to soothe, relax and rejuvenate. Located off the main lobby, our treatment rooms and certified staff of attendants are here to enhance your resort experience. Amid the lush mountains, serene lakeside setting and rustic lodge accommodations, you can choose which treatments best suit your individual needs.
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With a forested mountain setting and a pristine 243-acre lake our Jack Nicklaus Signature Golf Course will give you a completely new perspective on the wonders of golf. Mr. Nicklaus created an exceptional challenge for golfers of all levels here at Rocky Gap Lodge and Resort, in the center of Rocky Gap State Park. Our par 72, 18 hole championship course provides two distinct golf experiences - the front 9 holes are carved out of a heavily wooded mountainside with dramatic elevation changes. The back 9 holes feature expansive, gently rolling fairways and every hole offers scenic vistas, with Lake Habeeb and Evitt's Mountain serving as natural backdrops.
With 5-tee boxes per hole, and bent grass from tee to green, every player can adjust the challenge of the course to their individual level of play. The exhilarating course presents such a wide variety of shots that even the "Golden Bear" himself, Jack Nicklaus, has not broken par. Book your individual or group tee times at Rocky Gap golf and set your own personal best score.
Rocky Gap golf carts feature ProLink GPS (Global Positioning System) technology. Mounted on every cart, ProLink produces lower scores and all around enjoyment.
More than 95% of our guests request a smoke-free room and resort environment. We are committed to providing you with a healthy environment and reduce your exposure to any hazards while at the resort.
Violators of this policy in guest rooms will be subject to a room cleaning charge of $200 to clean the drapery, bedding and walls. Violators in restaurants and public spaces will be asked to go outside by resort staff.
Smoking is permitted outside the resort in designated smoking areas that are located in both the front and back of the resort complex. Please use the smoking receptacles to discard your cigars and cigarettes when finished.
Driving Directions
* From Pittsburgh, PA and areas West
Take I-279 South to I-79 South (Washington, PA) to I-68 East (Morgantown, WV), follow I-68 East for approximately 78 miles. Take the Rocky Gap State Park, Exit 50, make left off the exit, go straight and road leads to Hotel (1/4 mile).
* From East Pittsburgh, PA (scenic route)
Take I-76 (Pennsylvania Turnpike) east from Pittsburgh to I-70 east. Take SR-281 north and east to US-219 south. Follow US-219 south to I-68. Head east on I-68 until you see the Rocky Gap State Park sign, Exit 50. At the end of the ramp, turn left and follow the signs to the resort.
* From Washington, D.C.
Take 1-270 North approximately 30 miles to 1-70 West. Take 1-70 West approximately 60 miles to 1-68 West, from the start of I-68 West proceed approximately 36 miles to Rocky Gap State Park, Exit 50, Make right off the exit, hotel is visible from road.
* From Baltimore, MD
Take 1-70 West to 1-68 West (Hancock, MD) to Rocky Gap State Park, Exit 50, make right off the exit, hotel is visible from road.
* From Baltimore/Washington International Airport
Take I-195 West. At I-195, Exit 2B, turn off onto ramp. Merge onto SR-295 South [Baltimore Washington Pkwy]. Take exit onto MD-100 West. Take US-29 North [Columbia Pike] towards I-70. Bear RIGHT (North) onto Ramp. Merge onto I-70 West. Take to 1-68 West (Hancock) to Rocky Gap State Park, Exit 50, make right off the exit, hotel is visible from road
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JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. (Jan. 25, 2006) - After falling to Gardner-Webb last Saturday in only its second Atlantic Sun loss of the season, ETSU will look to rebound this weekend as it faces A-Sun foes Stetson and Mercer on the road. The Lady Bucs have been victorious in all three of their conference road games this season.
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Tonight's A-Sun matchup will feature two of the A-Sun top scorers in ETSU's B.J. Banjo and Stetson's Nefertiti Walker. The tandem is currently ranked second and third in the A-Sun scoring standings, at 20.3, and 19.4 ppg, respectively. The Lady Bucs (11-5, 7-2) need a win to stay atop the A-Sun standings, after falling to Gardner-Webb, 72-68, last Saturday. Stetson (3-12, 1-7) will be looking to grasp its second A-Sun victory of the season, after losing to
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Stetson, last season's A-Sun tournament champions, have had a rough start this season, going 0-7 before picking up its first victory over Bethune-Cookman. The Hatters' lone A-Sun win came against Lipscomb, when Stetson downed the Bisons, 70-62, in DeLand. One bright spot for the Hatters has been the scoring prowess of star Nefertiti Walker, who is averaging 19.4 ppg, 19.6 in A-Sun games.
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Stetson leads the all-time series 1-0, after picking up a 74-71 victory on Dec. 1, 1995.
Last time out ...
Gardner-Webb overcame a 13-point second half deficit to slip past the Lady Bucs, 72-68, Saturday afternoon in Brooks Gym. With the win, Gardner-Webb improves to 7-9 overall, 6-3 in the Atlantic Sun, while the Lady Bucs fall to 11-5, 7-2 in conference. Trailing 66-63, with just 2:34 remaining the in the second half, Gardner-Webb got a crucial basket from Brittany Harmon to bring the deficit to one with 2:14 to go. GWU earned its first lead of half at the 1:30 mark, as Trisha Bennett drained a three to give the Runnin' Bulldogs the 68-66 advantage. GWU continued its late run with a layup from Sequenta Blackman to make the score 70-66, with just over a minute remaining. A pair of free throws by B.J. Banjo (
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Feeding guideline:
A 50lb dog should be fed 2 3/4 - 3 2/3 cups
Calorie Content (calculated):
Metabolizable Energy (ME): 4214 kcal/kg; 448 kcal/cup; 1915 kcal/lb.
Lamb, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, oat meal, pearled barley, chicken meal (natural source of glucosamine), fish meal (natural source of glucosamine), animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), dried egg product, fish oil, pea fiber, dried beet pulp, natural flavor, calcium phosphate, salt, potassium chloride, potassium citrate, dried sweet potatoes, blueberry pomace, dried tomatoes, Vitamin E supplement, zinc proteinate, choline chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, manganese proteinate, ferrous sulfate, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), copper proteinate, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium carbonate, calcium pantothenate, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, Vitamin B-12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, calcium iodate, Vitamin D-3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite.
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Crude Protein (Min) 27.0%
Crude Fat (Min) 14.0%
Crude Fiber (Max) 4.5%
Moisture (Max) 12.0%
Linoleic Acid (Min) 1.4%
Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.0%
Phosphorus (P) (Min) 0.8%
Selenium (Se) (Min) 0.30 mg/kg
Vitamin A (Min) 15,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E (Min) 460 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid** (Min) 70 mg/kg
Glucosamine** (Min) 650 ppm
Glutamine** (Min) 1.0%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids** (Min) 0.4%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids** (Min) 1.6%
**Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles
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First ingredient is a named meat product.
Inadequate meat content, use of grain fragments, fat of unidentifiable origin, controversial filler.
The first ingredient in the food is a named meat product, but this is lamb inclusive of water content. Once this is removed, as it must be to make a dry food product, the ingredient will weigh around 20% of its wet weight. It is thus very unlikely that this is the true first ingredient in the food, and it would be more accurately placed much further down the ingredient list and does not comprise a substantive contribution to the food. There is a further named meat ingredient sixth on the ingredient list and this is likely to be the main meat ingredient in the food. It is thus unlikely that there is any appreciable meat content in the food.
This is a food based primarily on cereals. The main grains are brewers rice and corn. Brewers rice is a low quality grain and by-product. Corn is difficult for dogs to digest and the cause of many allergy problems. The AAFCO definition for corn gluten meal is the dried residue from corn after the removal of the larger part of the starch and germ, and the separation of the bran by the process employed in the wet milling manufacture of corn starch or syrup, or by enzymatic treatment of the endosperm. In plain English, that which remains after all the nutrititious bits have been removed.
Barley and oatmeal are decent quality grains. Fish meal is a further meat product, but in too low quantity to add significantly to the meat content of the food. We note that the manufacturer does not claim to use Ethoxyquin-free ingredients (Ethoxyquin is a chemical preservative commonly added to fish meal ingredients, and which is believed to be carcinogenic).
Animal fat is an ingredient of unspecified origin, and an ingredient we prefer never to see in dog food as it may contain anything. Such unspecified ingredients are invariably very low quality.
Beet pulp is controversial filler which appears to be used in large quantities in this food. It is a by-product, being dried residue from sugar beets which has been cleaned and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. It is a controversial ingredient in dog food, claimed by some manufacturers to be a good source of fibre, and derided by others as an ingredient added to slow down the transition of rancid animal fats and causing stress to kidney and liver in the process. We note that beet pulp is an ingredient that commonly causes problems for dogs, including allergies and ear infections, and prefer not to see it used in dog food. There are less controversial products around if additional fibre is required.
We would prefer to see the use of whole eggs in the food, rather than dried egg product, but appreciate the inclusion of a small range of vegetables.
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Yom revi'i, 4 Kislev 5772.
This is a departure from the "I love Israel!" nature of this blog. But my friend Batya has been asking me, gently but consistently, to involve myself in the Kosher Cooking Carnival. And today I came up with a recipe that made me so happy, I had to share it.
Let's say you came up with half a kilo of Welt Family Freedom Farm organic kale (three lovely varieties, completely bug-free, b"H). You've soaked and salted 'em; laid 'em out lovingly on towels to dry; divided the leaves into different piles for different purposes.
Now let's assume you've steamed some of your kale to eat with a plate of excellent beef, and the rest you've made into kale chips. (Preheat the oven to 180 degrees Centigrade -- around 350 degrees Fahrenheit -- sprinkle washed and dried and chip-sized leaves of kale with olive oil and seasoned salt; bake for about ten minutes, until the edges are brown but not burned. Delicious snack!) Now you've got all these stems and tiny leaves left. Not quite enough for -- anything. But wait...
You're on this great low-carb, virtually no sugar (except for Shabbat) diet, which is working miraculously: you are never hungry; you are eating foods you enjoy; and you are consistently losing weight. (Oh, how I wish they'd told me decades ago that meat and eggs and butter are health foods!) Oh, yeah -- and the stomach problems you've had for years have vanished.
So... you take some eggs and Parmesan, a little onion and garlic and those bits of kale, and you come up with
Kale, Garlic and Parmesan Omelet
1/2 T. butter
1 small onion, chopped
1/2 cup kale, chopped
1 large clove garlic, chopped
3 large eggs, beaten
1 oz. Parmesan cheese, grated
salt and pepper, to taste
Sauté onion, kale and garlic in butter at medium heat. Remove vegetable mixture from pan. Add eggs to pan; turn down heat to medium low. When eggs are nearly set, season and add Parmesan. Top with vegetable mixture.
Allow to set for a minute or two more; then, fold omelet gently before transferring to plate. Sprinkle with a little of the slightly-too-brown kale that is the inevitable result of a phone call during the last batch of kale chips; add a few tiny cherry tomatoes for garnish.
Voilà! A breakfast to kick-start your day. Accompanied by an excellent cup of coffee, of course.
Check here at Batya's blog Me-Ander to see a collection of Kosher Cooking Carnival blog posts. And, if you have a kosher recipe or post about food you would care to share, please feel free to add your contribution here.


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What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. (Confucius)
Welcome to a new week, friends. Hope the folks in the middle of the country start having better weather. Except for Jim. And only because they need the moisture for their fields.
Was suppose to get up and do 4 this a.m., but battled a bad headache and being really tired all day yesterday, so I slept in. So 4 EZ this evening in cold, windy conditions. Now I'm just waiting for Coach Gary to get me my schedule for the rest of the week. Think I'll go sit in a hot bath for awhile then check again.
Nite All ~
Leslie Living and Running Behind the Redwood Curtain -------------
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I did 5 miles this a.m. with Miles 3 and 4 being tempo miles. My legs are still tired from Saturday and from last night's EZ 4, and it took about 1.5 miles before they loosened up. My tempo paces are Matt's and Joe's regular paces, so I'll continue to stake claim to being the tortoise amongst the group.
We have thousands of Canada geese that winter here. The ranchers and farmers hate them because they tear up the fields. Their daily flight path, to and from their feeding grounds, goes right over our hours. During my last mile. wave after wave after wave of squadrons of honking geese flew overhead. They look like tiny fighter planes. It was an incredible sight and sound to behold. I stopped twice to watch them fly over.
Trails are hard!
Unfortunately, they can also act as little bombers. Hope you're not in THAT fight path. Our town used to have an Australian shepherd to try and chase the geese off our common and lake since they were very adept at spreading landmines when there's 100's of them around. Flash had to be retired since he kept stepping in holes and hurting himself. Now they have volunteers that go around to there nests and oil the eggs so that little ones don't appear. Not always successful.
3.25 for me this morning at 9:30 average pace, but highly irregular actual pace due to all the snow seepage that froze overnight. Lots tippy-toeing around or over the slippery spots. As much as I love my Pure Connects, the traction sucks on snow and ice. Plus, since they're so flexible, they turn into elf shoes when I tried them with the Yaktracs. I can survive on most anything that has a little texture with the Adrenalines.
At some point when I feel a little more comfortable wiht my base, I may actual do a little speed work, but for now, I'm going to stick with Leslie in the tortise class and just get the miles in.
and yes, 70 is approaching beastly hot.
Need a fast half for late fall. Then I need to actually train for it.
Geese abound here and are a big problem. Year round they poo all over the athletic fields and school yards. Some have tried putting plywood labs out in the fields, but the geese figure it out . I let Buddy chase them. One of his favorite things me thinks.
Happy Belated B Day Leslie. what are you now, 29?
Nice attitude Stumpy. Take it easy on that slippery stuff. Glad we missed that last dumping that you received.
Loosened up Arla? Yes, if you're complaing and bundling up for 60* weather, you're officially a warm weather wimp.
What I have been doing is on the pullup bar (palms out) do 3 perfect pullups, drop in a squat, snap out to pushup position, 3 perfect pushups ,then snap right back up for 3 more pullups. Tonight I did 5 sets ( so 60 pullups/60 pushups) of those with 2 mile tm runs in between. Cowbell is the same as conventional barbells. Curls,shoulder lifts,swing under your legs and up,etc. Also getting in 5 sets of abs. Lunges, squats,planks,trying to mix in all I can. All that went with 4 games of racquetball earlier this morning. Much to the chagrin of my opponent, I won them all today.
My goal is to get more agile as in spring time I am taking up something that I consider my next evolution in sailing , that's kiteboarding. I have been reading up on it and will be able to speak the language by the time I take a lesson or two in the spring. I was sailboarding in the early 80's ( and sailing since 13 yo) so it's the next step for me. I'm excited about it.
Happy Belated B Day Leslie. what are you now, 29?
Yes. Yes, I am.
I'm always afraid that "too much" cross training is going to make a tired body even more tired come running days, so I only XT two times a week at the most, and those are usually on a rest day and a low/EZ mileage day. Guess I need to stop being a wimp and try it and find out. I have some DVDs that just kick my rear end, so maybe I'll start incorporating them more after this upcoming race.
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OM - I think you're in good shape to hit that 4-hour mark, hope you get the right course and weather and all that.
Leslie - those Canada geese are a sight! Too bad there's just too darn many of them in many places, and people don't seem interested in eating them nowadays. When I worked with the USDA in Philadelphia, we tried to donate a bunch of goosemeat to homeless shelters but they turned their noses up at it! Go figure!
stumpy - keep at those miles and keep the shiny side up!
Joe - dang, that's tough stuff you're doing there! Have you started practicing with a kite? Do the kiteboarders use a 2-line or 4-line kite? It sure looks fun, even playing around with a strong-pulling kite on the ground is a kick!
Hope ev is recovered from his fun weekend.
Felt mysteriously tired yesterday, so turned in early and slept a little extra, and then just as mysteriously felt great today! The butt is about 95% better, did some extra stretching and foam rolling and got in a couple strides today. Thinking Saturday's 10K is going to go ok after all, hoping to crack into the top 3.
Supposed to be 80 here on Saturday!
Ex runner
80?? Dang. Good job listening to your body, Arla, and getting the extra rest. You're gonna do great in the race.
About 50 min of core/strength training last night while finishing up "Because I Said So." Diane Keaton is such a screw ball.
This morning is was 8 miles of a steady paced run. When I left the house, I told myself I was too tired to run the hills on the course I would be taking, and I vowed to turn up "S" Street when I got there. . . . . I sucked it up and ran the hills. I'm glad I did as my endurance is definitely improving, and the reward is the bathroom at Safeway at the 4-mile turn around point.
My quads are sore and tired, but my 4 EZ went well this a.m. Probably could've been more aggressive with my 30 min of strength training, but my heart just wasn't in it. I used for foam roller for a few minutes this morning, and have decided I really need to find a sports massage therapist to go to every three weeks or so. I've been getting regular transcription jobs at home, so it shouldn't be too taxing on the finances.
Tomorrow is my last LR, and then I get to start my taper in the Rodeo Valley 50k on March 16. I plan to savor the lower mileage since afterward, things are going to start getting a bit harder to get ready for Memorial Day Weekend and Mt. Hood.
Okay - Lunch time is over ~
flatland mountaineer
Literally a crappy run week. Apparently in our travels we both picked up a bug that made me more of a "trotter" than a runner. I finally went to the doc yesterday, bloodwork did indeed seem to indicate a viral thing so have to wait it out, seems to be improving though.
Arla good luck with your 10k race today, sounds like you are ready! One thing about getting older is I think we get smarter about listening to our bodies and sometimes you just need a little rest.
One of the farm papers I get pegged CA snowpack at only 66% ave for this time of year after a wet start.http://www.agweb.com/article/california_faces_'gloomy_water-supply_year_/ Seems like the west is remaining dry.
Stumpy, nice pace there! I hate that melt refreeze on the asphalt especially on a slight slope as you are running fine and all of a sudden you are on the ground wondering what the heck happened. I been loving my La Sportiva crosslites for general winter ice and snow, by far the best I found but the black ice stil finds me doing the tippy toeing step light thing you were talking about.
Joe that kiteboarding looks really fun and sounds like you are going to have the fitness to do really well at it.
Leslie enjoy your upcoming taper. Sounds like have done quite well in this training cycle despite the foot issue early on. Maybe I could loan you Dessa Lou to keep the goose poo away, she ran down another coyote 2 weeks ago, she is stupid fast!
Om good luck on the Colorado Marathon. Ft Collins is a neat town. I think Mtn Chick did the half or maybe the full.
Ev I am so jealous of your snow and moisture. Heard Amarillo had close to 20 inches, record, thats good enough to snowshoe in!
Some STOMP pics if you are interested. https://picasaweb.google.com/117838166781867695807/022313STOMP?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCM2Kpt-a_52SYQ&feat=directlink
We seemed to miss the good snow again. Our shallow snow cover will melt this week and maybe we will begin to be able to assess our wheat condition. The central corn belt has recovered some as well as the SE, and although the southern plains picked up the big snows I dought it will change their drought status too much unless the storm track continues. Won't be long and we will be back in the field. Kinda puts a question mark on entering any races this spring and summer as I expect we will be irrigating early where we can.
The whole world said I shoulda used red but it looked good to Charlene in John Deere Green!!
Support Ethanol, drink the best, burn the rest.
Run for fun? What the hell kind of recreation is that? quote from Back to the Fut III
Leslie - Hope your LR went well today and now it's TAPER TIME! WOOT! Might want to back off on the strength training, too..?? You're going to come off this at a great jumping off point for Mt. Hood, I would think.
r2 - Sorry to hear bout your trotting, not the kind of easy run anyone enjoys. Yeah, dry and warm today, we're officially at 79 as I type. Maybe a pinch of precip coming this week, but I'm already deep-watering my redwoods (curses to the people who thought planting coast redwoods in Fresno was a good idea).
The race today was chaos! Everyone got sent in different directions, I guess because there was also a 2 mi and some other events so the course monitors were confused. A few women clocked 19 and 20-minute 10Ks (heh), while the 50+ women's winner came in around 27:00 (wouldn't that be nice?). The pack I was in got to run a little extra, I'm not sure how much. Somehow I got officially 5th and it's good for points so I'll take it. All in good fun and for a good cause.
The course start/finish was near the firehouse in the small town where Mark works. After the race Mark, his wife Shirley, myself, and a couple extra friends got permission for Mark to take us for a spin in one of the engines (Mark is an engineer). We had real fireman helmets and headphones with mics (the engines are loud) and Mark even blipped the siren and horns for us. Fun! Then we got a tour of the firehouse, let's just say it's a fantastic man-cave, each guy has his own Laz-Z-Boy type chair, there's a sweet big-screen TV, and a really nice gym. One of the guys joked that all they needed was a refrigerator that holds a keg.
Arla - Sounds like you had a good time, despite the chaos. Saw the pics on FB of you in the fire engine. What fun!
Jim - Sure wish you guys were getting more moisture. Hope the trots clear up soon!
Last long run in the bag today. 25 miles in about 6 hours out at the McKay Tract that sufficiently wiped out my legs. They are T-O-A-S-T. Tackled a 7-mile loop twice, which on one side is up, up, up, then a snotty, slippery mess down the other side, then some out and back.
My legs haven't felt like this since Mt. Hood last year. However, I've schedule a 1.5 hr massage for Monday that should help get them back in working order. It's gonna hurt like the dickens, but it's gonna be worth it. The darling hub worked on my calves this evening, and all I can say about that is O-U-C-H!! . . . . But thanks, Hon. I REALLY needed it.
Arla - Yes, I will be backing off the strength training for the next two weeks, but will keep some core stuff going. That's the part about tapering that stinks. Two weeks with little to no strength training always sets me back in that arena. But, I really, REALLY need the rest this time around. I'm very tired. Been increasing mileage for the last 6 weeks to get ready for this race.
So - my brother lives 4+ hours away. There's a message on the answering machine when I get home saying he's come up to my dad's place (about half an hour from us). He brought fresh eggs for us, if we're interested. Here are the kickers: (1) I had no idea he was coming to town, and (2) My 72-year old dad works the graveyard shift as a security guard at a hospital. He's usually a mess on Sundays and not moving too much 'til late afternoon. Did my dad even know he was coming? Who knows. Brian gets a wild hair up his butt, and there he goes. Unfortunately, I have a ton of transcription I have to work on tomorrow. Not sure if he's expecting us to have him and dad up here for a visit or what. If I'd known he was coming, I would've done some extra typing during the week to make up for not being able to tomorrow. Now, I HAVE to work tomorrow. Sometimes all I can do is . I'll see him in two weeks when I stay with him to run Rodeo Valley.
Leslie - congratulations on getting that last run in so solidly! You've certainly earned this taper. My brother visits randomly like that, too. Sometimes I get to see him, sometimes not.
Cooler and showery today, should make for a pleasant long run.
Have you tried the Pure Grit? That's why I've been wearing in the snow and slush and muck this winter, since my regular shoes are the Pure Flow. So far, no need for the Yak Traks for me! Nice run, btw.
who says life doesn't have a soundtrack?
3.5 yesterday and 7 today, kind of a run walk jog, but no TROTTING! Yay, Feeling ok just short of energy but seems to be coming back pretty fast.
Arla so did you get a new asterisk PR? ;-) congrats on the official 5th place, sounds like a big time at the firehouse.
Leslie yay last long run of the cycle in the books! And don't get me started about family :-(
Contractor is pouring a concrete floor in the shed we put up last winter so have to get all our Junk equipment moved out this afternoon. Hopefully the contractor gets started tommorow.
Leslie....I missed your birthday? How in the heck did that happen? Happy Birthday! Hope you had a good one. Happy tapering!
Arla....Nice going on the 10K+. Nce ride in the fire engine. I'd have had to resist the urge to say, "One Adam 12, One Adam 12." Or were those guys paramedics?
Joe...kickin' some raquetball butt.
Jim....we did get some good moisture. 8 inches of wet snow, followed by 18 inches of wet snow a few days latr. Plenty of snow shoveling. I'll was wondering yestrday about the the stomp. I'll check out the pics latr. Hope this week is less "crappy" for you!
Stumpy...I'm with you about the icey conditions. I like a nice layer of snow 1-2 inches. But once it starts getting packed and icey, it makes it tough. Need the yak trax, and OM....I'll have to check out the pure grit. Thanks for that tip.
Just about recovered from the fun musical weekend from last week.....then had another fun musical weeked this week. My friend Joe Baxter and his band the Lost Cause performed a stellar show at Roman Nose State Park. Baxter is a great songwriter. Pure Americana. Every song takes your mind to a place that us Okies can all relate to. He doesn't get much publicity, but locally he's becoming a legend. A real gem.
Anyway....a couple of 6ers for me this weekend. Yestrday was shorts and T!
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