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|January 25, 2013, 07:35 AM
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How accurate should my O frame press be?
I have been reloading for a few years now, I have been using my fathers O frame press bought in the early 70's. It has not reloaded more than 750 rounds in its entire life.
Last month I started using a Hornady comparator on my mityoyo caliper to measure loading length and realized I was getting upto +/- 3 thou on the bullet seating depth. It was about 50-50 between good and those that varied.
After trying different things including two different calibers, forster & rcbs dies and hornady, berger and sierra projectiles it remained around the same variation.
After scratching my head for a few days, I investigated some more and found that when then press handle was fully down and a side pressure was applied the ram was moving further up and therefore causing the problem.
I reseated the longer cases from the other night but this time made sure that a sideways force was also applied then these matched the good 50% within .0005".
So, my questions are,
Is this issue what I should be expecting in a O frame press that has not had much use?
Am I expecting bench rest quality and need to by something better?
|January 25, 2013, 08:23 AM
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Bullet seating depth as measured to some point on their ogive will all have a couple thousandths spread. That's 'cause the ogives don't all have the exact same shape; even being formed by a single pointing die in production. Sierra Bullets acknowledges this happens but they've not seen any issues with it shooting 1/4 MOA test groups with such match bullets at 200 yards.
Don't get concerned about it. There's also a few thousandths spread from the case shoulder to case head and the case shoulder, when against the chamber shoulder when the round's fired, also affects how far the bullet jumps to the rifling.
That small variable may make a 1" difference in your group sizes at 1500 (one thousand five hundred) yards; not much at all.
Most any O frame press will load benchrest quality ammo. The critical thing about them is being able to not spring very much when full length sizing cases so case headspace spread's small. Using the right case lube and putting the same amount on cases helps. But they do have to be used the same way for each case.
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|January 25, 2013, 09:32 AM
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Bart B is exactly correct. There are gages you can get from Sinclair International where you can segregate bullets by measuring from ogive to base of bullet but proving it works is gonna be one of those things that will cause you to lose hair.
|January 25, 2013, 11:32 AM
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Uncle Grumpy, 'O' type press "I have been reloading for a few years now, I have been using my fathers O frame press bought in the early 70' ",
As you can see, without knowing the brand of the 'Old ?' O frame press it is a guess, in the beginning before Internet reloading a distinction was made between 'CAM OVER' and cram, jam or lock up presses, In the beginning RCBS presses 'cammed' over, now they jam over, meaning they jam/cram up before the ram reaches the top (top dead center), a cam over presses reaches TDC and starts back down, the amount of cam over can be measured by a few reloaders with a feeler gage, most deny it happens. In the old days the die was adjusted to the shell holder on a cam over press, the cam over amount, in the old days, was called 'Bump'. Bump, today, means anytime the shoulder of the sizing die contact the shoulder of the case it bumped. I suppose ad in bumped into the shoulder like some kind of accident. To find 'Bump' before the Internet, read RCBS die instructions from 1960 +/- a few years.
Back to RCBS and bind-up/lock-up, the linkage gets tangled up at the bottom when the ram is raised to the maximum, the linkage hits the bottom of the ram, when the linkage hits the ram the ram is kicked forward at the bottom and back at the top. Do not panic, a compulsive giggler posted the effect on YouTube, there was no die and no case, meaning? The case in the die prevents the kick out at the bottom, after the posting the 'usuals' posted the claim blaming cheap manufacturing on China and or other countries.
then there is the problem with being able to determine if your press is a 'cam-over press', there are not many Herter presses I do not have, all my Herters are cam over presses, two are guaranteed not to flex, with common sense the amount of cam over is a designed limiter to bump.
Back in the old days I listened to a lot of stuff that did not make sense, when sizing and or forming I scribed lines at the case body shoulder juncture, scribing the line convinced me the shoulder of the case did not move, the line did not move, the shoulder was being erases and formed someplace else, I also found by scribing the location of the case body shoulder cases were not stretching between the case head and case body, it was interesting to me part of the shoulder of the case became part of the case body and part of the neck became part of the shoulder, back to stretch and insipient case head separation, insipient case head separation comes from bad habits, not firing the case. Anyhow, I became a fan of knowing the length of the chamber first then sizing cases by length to off set the length of the chamber, I became a fan of cutting down on all that case travel.
Receivers, like presses have different designs, one rule does not apply to all receivers, one rule does not apply to all presses. Again, What brand of press are you using?
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|January 25, 2013, 07:46 PM
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Your press isn't going to be "accurate", it's just a tool to push cases into and draw them back out so the ram slop you cite is trivial and meaningless. It's dies, components, load development and user skill that produces high quality ammo. When you have made up maybe 2-4 thousand rounds while experimenting with your methods and loads you MIGHT be ready to go to the high grade dies by Forster or Redding. Until then standard dies will do all you'll need - after all, they're all pretty good!
BR shooters don't normally use threaded dies or presses. They use 'hand' dies and arbor presses and you can't find a looser press than that!
|January 25, 2013, 10:03 PM
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+/- .003" is very good.
The only time I've done better is with a flat nosed bullet seater and SWC's.
|January 26, 2013, 12:33 AM
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Thanks for your help you have all made me think. I believe I may have solved the problem regarding the slop in the press and I believe the problem is me! (go figure)
It is a cam over press in which you are supposed to have the sizing die down tight on the ram and then lift the handle a little screw the die a little more to make sure the slop is gone.
I however turn the die down tight, then unscrew it 1/8th so that I am neck sizing with a full length die. Therefore I am leaving the slop in the presses action.
I also do something similar with the seating dies under the assumption that all dies have a crimping collar and you need to back off the die when using projectiles without the cannelure.
However the last two sets of dies I bought have been forster dies and the seating die instruction says to unscrew the die 1 turn so the spring is not totally compressed. This then is not touching the ram at all.
My procedure I follow has come from reading several books on how to reload from the 70-80's.
So, it seems that either need a few neck size dies for the old press or find a new style press that can handle the old with the new style dies I have.
|January 26, 2013, 07:47 AM
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UncleGrumpy procedure:
More often than not, when such a sized case is chambered, it binds up a little as the case head to shoulder distance is now too long for the chamber. This causes the bolt to not close back exactly the same for each shot and accuracy suffers.
Reloaders are better off using a case headspace gauge such as the RCBS Precision Mic to measure fired case headspace then adjust the die so it sets the fired case shoulders back no more than a couple thousandths. Doing this usually lets the die's bottom come within a couple thousandths of touching the shell holder. If one of Redding's Competition shell holders of the right height, then adjust the die so when the press cams over a tiny bit, the case is full length sized perfectly and best accuracy is at hand as well as long case life.
Unclenick's great set of labels shown below can be put on sizing die lock rings so one can see exactly how much change in position a given adjustment will make:
Print them so the inside diameter's 7/8th inch. Use a sheet of sticky-back label paper so they can be easily put on lock rings.
wncchester, benchresters have recently started using standard press mounted full length sizing dies with bushings for their specific case neck diameters. The dies set in the press to set fired case shoulders back and case body diameters down a thousandth or a bit more. This method produces more accurate ammo than neck only sizing with arbors pusing neck only dies down on case necks.
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|January 26, 2013, 11:20 PM
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Thanks Bart B. After reading your post I am starting to understand a little more clearly.
The intention of my current practice of partial neck sizing is to keep the case sized as close to the chamber as possible. But it's using an idea that introduces it own problems such as the loose press when not jammed up hard.
I have just finished looking at the Rcbs Precion Mic and the Redding shell holders and imediately see the advantages for case sizing.
As far as the crimping seating die (ie .303 British) that I do not crimp the projectiles, it takes 3/4 turn before the crimp stops touching the case, this works out at 0.054" using those useful diagrams. The Redding shell holders only go to 0.010" is there a solution to this?
|January 27, 2013, 12:17 AM
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Partial neck sizing with the versatile full length sizer: Back the die off top prevent the shoulder of the die from contacting the shoulder of the case. .050 thousands gap between the bottom of the die and top of shell holder will prevent the die from contacting the the case body and or case shoulder. I combine neck sizing with minimum case body sizing, I determine the difference in length of the chamber from the bolt face to the shoulder of the chamber then size the case to off set the difference in length between the chamber and case.
The full length sizer die is a versatile die, by adjusting the case up or the die off the shell holder I size cases in 26 different length from short chamber by .012"- to .014"+ between the head of the case and shoulder.
"As far as the crimping seating die (ie .303 British) that I do not crimp the projectiles, it takes 3/4 turn before the crimp stops touching the case, this works out at 0.054" using those useful diagrams. The Redding shell holders only go to 0.010" is there a solution to this?"
Backing the seating die off to prevent crimping is necessary, if you acquired a feeler gage for measuring gaps between the die and shell holder you could make repeated adjustments. Most secure the lock ring to the die, I don't, I secure the die to the press with the lock ring meaning I adjust my dies every time I use them. You are correct, Redding Competition shell holders are acquired when used with the seating die. redding Competition shell holders are nice, not necessary, neither is grinding the shell holder or base of the die, and no, the redding Shell holders were not designed to be an alternative to grinding one or the other.
Back to sizing the 303 British, backing the full length sizer to neck size and prevent the die from contacting the case body and shoulder will decrease case stretch. It is possible for some reloaders to determine the length of the chamber from the bolt face to the shoulder/datum then adjust the die to prevent excessive sizing. Again, nothing beats the feeler gage, first I determine the length of the chamber.
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|January 27, 2013, 12:25 AM
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Outside of reloading there are many ways to remove slack and play in holes and bores and on shafts, still I do not know what press you are using.
If the slack in caused by the ram loose in the bore the hole can be knurled then reamed or honed back to minimum.
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|January 27, 2013, 01:29 PM
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|January 27, 2013, 04:16 PM
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"It is a cam over press in which you are supposed to have the sizing die down tight on the ram and then lift the handle a little screw the die a little more to make sure the slop is gone."
The latteral slop in your ram isn't "removed" or taken care of with 'cam over'. That slop you have actually allows those tapered round cases to self center in that big round hole in the die. High quality (costly) rifle chambering reamers are held in lathe "floating" reamer holders so the reamers can self align with the bore. Meaning we can't MAKE such things go straight but we sure can prevent them from going straight. Unless the alignments of ram-shell holder-case-die-press hole are all perfect (and that is VERY rare!) we actually benefit from less than ridgid ram alignment.
|January 27, 2013, 08:15 PM
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UncleGrumpy, regarding your comment:
Best thing to do for safety and long case life is to back the die up a few thousandths such that the fired case shoulder's set back no more than 2 thousandths. But you'll need a case headspace gauge to measure the case headspace; once before it's full length sized and again afterwords. The difference is how much the case headspace has shortened.
This is why Redding makes those shell holders with different heights in .002" steps above the standard .125". Use the one that lets the press linkage cam over slightly on the die but not set the fired case shoulder back too far.
There's enough slop in the shell holder's dimensions to let a case well align with the die's center anyway.
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4 Then the herald loudly proclaimed, "Nations and peoples of every language, this is what you are commanded to do: 5 As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up. 6 Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace."
7 Therefore, as soon as they heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp and all kinds of music, all the nations and peoples of every language fell down and worshiped the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
8 At this time some astrologers[b] came forward and denounced the Jews. 9 They said to King Nebuchadnezzar, "May the king live forever! 10 Your Majesty has issued a decree that everyone who hears the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music must fall down and worship the image of gold, 11 and that whoever does not fall down and worship will be thrown into a blazing furnace. 12 But there are some Jews whom you have set over the affairs of the province of Babylon—Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego—who pay no attention to you, Your Majesty. They neither serve your gods nor worship the image of gold you have set up."
13 Furious with rage, Nebuchadnezzar summoned Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. So these men were brought before the king, 14 and Nebuchadnezzar said to them, "Is it true, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the image of gold I have set up? 15 Now when you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, if you are ready to fall down and worship the image I made, very good. But if you do not worship it, you will be thrown immediately into a blazing furnace. Then what god will be able to rescue you from my hand?"
16 Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, "King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. 17 If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us[c] from Your Majesty's hand. 18 But even if he does not, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up."
19 Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and his attitude toward them changed. He ordered the furnace heated seven times hotter than usual 20 and commanded some of the strongest soldiers in his army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and throw them into the blazing furnace. 21 So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace. 22 The king's command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, 23 and these three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace.
24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, "Weren't there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire?"
They replied, "Certainly, Your Majesty."
25 He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."
26 Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, "Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here!"
So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire, 27 and the satraps, prefects, governors and royal advisers crowded around them. They saw that the fire had not harmed their bodies, nor was a hair of their heads singed; their robes were not scorched, and there was no smell of fire on them.
28 Then Nebuchadnezzar said, "Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! They trusted in him and defied the king's command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God. 29 Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way."
30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the province of Babylon.
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream of a Tree
4 [d]King Nebuchadnezzar,
To the nations and peoples of every language, who live in all the earth:
May you prosper greatly!
2 It is my pleasure to tell you about the miraculous signs and wonders that the Most High God has performed for me.
3 How great are his signs,
4 I, Nebuchadnezzar, was at home in my palace, contented and prosperous. 5 I had a dream that made me afraid. As I was lying in bed, the images and visions that passed through my mind terrified me. 6 So I commanded that all the wise men of Babylon be brought before me to interpret the dream for me. 7 When the magicians, enchanters, astrologers[e] and diviners came, I told them the dream, but they could not interpret it for me. 8 Finally, Daniel came into my presence and I told him the dream. (He is called Belteshazzar, after the name of my god, and the spirit of the holy gods is in him.)
9 I said, "Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you, and no mystery is too difficult for you. Here is my dream; interpret it for me. 10 These are the visions I saw while lying in bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. 11 The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth. 12 Its leaves were beautiful, its fruit abundant, and on it was food for all. Under it the wild animals found shelter, and the birds lived in its branches; from it every creature was fed.
13 "In the visions I saw while lying in bed, I looked, and there before me was a holy one, a messenger,[f] coming down from heaven. 14 He called in a loud voice: 'Cut down the tree and trim off its branches; strip off its leaves and scatter its fruit. Let the animals flee from under it and the birds from its branches. 15 But let the stump and its roots, bound with iron and bronze, remain in the ground, in the grass of the field.
"'Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven, and let him live with the animals among the plants of the earth. 16 Let his mind be changed from that of a man and let him be given the mind of an animal, till seven times[g] pass by for him.
17 "'The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of people.'
18 "This is the dream that I, King Nebuchadnezzar, had. Now, Belteshazzar, tell me what it means, for none of the wise men in my kingdom can interpret it for me. But you can, because the spirit of the holy gods is in you."
Daniel Interprets the Dream
19 Then Daniel (also called Belteshazzar) was greatly perplexed for a time, and his thoughts terrified him. So the king said, "Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its meaning alarm you."
Belteshazzar answered, "My lord, if only the dream applied to your enemies and its meaning to your adversaries! 20 The tree you saw, which grew large and strong, with its top touching the sky, visible to the whole earth, 21 with beautiful leaves and abundant fruit, providing food for all, giving shelter to the wild animals, and having nesting places in its branches for the birds— 22 Your Majesty, you are that tree! You have become great and strong; your greatness has grown until it reaches the sky, and your dominion extends to distant parts of the earth.
23 "Your Majesty saw a holy one, a messenger, coming down from heaven and saying, 'Cut down the tree and destroy it, but leave the stump, bound with iron and bronze, in the grass of the field, while its roots remain in the ground. Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven; let him live with the wild animals, until seven times pass by for him.'
24 "This is the interpretation, Your Majesty, and this is the decree the Most High has issued against my lord the king: 25 You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals; you will eat grass like the ox and be drenched with the dew of heaven. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes. 26 The command to leave the stump of the tree with its roots means that your kingdom will be restored to you when you acknowledge that Heaven rules. 27 Therefore, Your Majesty, be pleased to accept my advice: Renounce your sins by doing what is right, and your wickedness by being kind to the oppressed. It may be that then your prosperity will continue."
The Dream Is Fulfilled
28 All this happened to King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 Twelve months later, as the king was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon, 30 he said, "Is not this the great Babylon I have built as the royal residence, by my mighty power and for the glory of my majesty?"
31 Even as the words were on his lips, a voice came from heaven, "This is what is decreed for you, King Nebuchadnezzar: Your royal authority has been taken from you. 32 You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals; you will eat grass like the ox. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes."
33 Immediately what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people and ate grass like the ox. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.
34 At the end of that time, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven, and my sanity was restored. Then I praised the Most High; I honored and glorified him who lives forever.
His dominion is an eternal dominion;
36 At the same time that my sanity was restored, my honor and splendor were returned to me for the glory of my kingdom. My advisers and nobles sought me out, and I was restored to my throne and became even greater than before. 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorify the King of heaven, because everything he does is right and all his ways are just. And those who walk in pride he is able to humble.
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Faith in the Incarnate Son of God
5 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 2 This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3 In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, 4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
6 This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 For there are three that testify: 8 the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9 We accept human testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10 Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
Concluding Affirmations
13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
16 If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.
18 We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them. 19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
21 Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.
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What If?
What if we could show you a system of eating which was so different from anything else you've ever seen, that you'll notice a change in your body in just 11 Days from Today?
Forget about your past dieting failures for a moment.
Just focus on one thought right now..........WHAT IF it was really possible to change your body in 11 days?
Believe it or not it's really possible to change your body over the NEXT 11 DAYS, and it has NOTHING to do with positive thinking.......because positive thinking all by itself won't remove a single pound from your body.
That's right...........if you want to get NOTICEABLY THINNER IN THE MIRRORthen you need MUCH MORE than just "positive thinking".
Okay.........get ready to be shown an Eating System which is so unique that you're going to be anxious to begin immediately.
FOOD is NOT the Enemy
Did you know that your brain controls the release of Fat Burning Hormones after each meal? It's true.
Every time you eat something there are 2 types of hormones released into your bloodstream, and together they control Fat Burning and Fat Storage.
Also, did you know that these 2 hormones are controlled by the foods that you eat? It's true.
Our Diet Manipulates
Our diet manipulates these hormones.........so after each meal your body will produce a greater quantity of Fat Burning Hormones...........while Fat Storing Hormones are MINIMIZED as much as humanly possible.
That's why you'll be eating MORE THAN 3 TIMES PER DAY during the next 11 Days, because to alter these hormones correctly you'll be required to eat MORE than 3 times per day.
You probably find it hard to believe that eating more than 3 times per day could be the solution to speeding up weight loss, right?
After all, most people believe that food is the "enemy" which makes them overweight.
But that's simply WRONG. Food is NOT the enemy.
So if Food is Not the Enemy, Then What is it?
Food is like a LIGHT SWITCH which can turn Fat Burning ON or OFF.
So even though it may seem like a contradiction to say that eating more often is the solution to weight loss............that's exactly what our New Dieting System is all about.
Of course, you must eat the right meals in the right patterns each day(since obviously you cannot eat chocolate 10 times per day and get skinny).
However, the bottom line is that you'll be eating MORE than 3 meals per day during the next 11 Days.......and after 11 days have passed you'll be much slimmer and lighter on the scale.
Don't believe it?
Well, you've already discovered that low calorie diets don't work.
So what does this tell you?
...It tells you that eating less is NOT THE ANSWER, and it tells you that the solution must be something totally different.
We know that there are *some* people who don't truly believe that they can change their own body within the next couple weeks, but please keep reading below with an open mind. Read More...
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iosumarti wrote:Ok, im aproaching to understand how LSP can do it, but in KT case?
We have saied that he used to record most of the things, except voices and some other things in other studios, ok. But after that, when they take the tape, they have only the 4 tracks, no? Im speaking about the early Tubby times, 75-80 more or less... I know that they do real magic with not much, is amazing!
MulatuAstatke wrote: So for instance when you here reverb just on the snare, it is not because there is a seperate track for the snare drum,
underated wrote:
Were those studios / rooms acoustically treated ?
Did those places use state of the art studio monitors ?
The sound is truly amazing.
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The old 'more is less' thing comes into play as always.
Minimal gear & learn it well never fails.
iosumarti wrote:I suggest you, all the readers of this post, to make a little game;
Can you identify a song wich is mixed in 4 groups?
It doesn`t matter if is not Tubbys or Perrys song, my objetive is to enjoy this dubbing sound, that comes and goes...
Who starts?
Chocolate Soldier wrote:It seems to me that lot of what makes the 70's and early 80's dub so great is the 'raw material' they had to work with eg: the fantastic sounds, performances, vibes and even technical recording quality on the tapes...
It goes beyond a technical process, equipment, the amount of tracks etc..
Another element of what makes a Tubby's mixes generally so brilliant is the approach / way of hearing / mind of the person behind the desk - its more than randomly pushing faders & twisting knobs, the approach is musical. the events that happen make sense in the flow of the track...its musical alchemy, transformation...
Someone could sit there today with a 4 track set up & never get anything close to KT power.
There is a thing known as vibes.
Vibes is the human factor.
VIbes is the way a drummer will place the snare hit slightly behind the beat,
Vibes is the way the bass strings are slightly out of tune & covered in a layer of chicken grease from KFC lunch 20 years ago and sweat from countless hours of playing....
What is soul? According to Funkadelic - soul is a hamhock in your cornflakes... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgPIqOh9uTU
Watch the LP/KT footage from the Channel Four documentary (rescued from the vaults by one of our own!) - it doesn't get much better than that, a time travel lens in these studios of legend during the 70's heyday...
I advise anyone these days working with a DAW setup as an experiment (if your set up allows for this) to turn off their PC monitor while mixing, just mix listening to <sound> and not by looking at waveforms render on a screen / coloured blocks!
The human brain can only take in so much information at once, this way you are freeing up more brain power to focus on and be in tune with the music, not a light show...
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posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Jan 2006 21:15 UTC, submitted by Herschel Cohen
"If building infrastructure is the true forte of Free/Open Source Software, why is there so much duplicative efforts to build so similar edifices seen in Office Suites? Would it not be better to put the initial efforts into construction a software scaffold as the first fundamental step in building the structure to allow all suites components to be placed upon it from any interested source? While I do not consider myself a competent software architect, conceptually the proposal in the previous sentence seems reasonable. Moreover, it could attract talent that is more attuned to fundamentals of process control, i.e. information exchange rather than the attributes seen in a keystroke binding to an action upon a gui that a class of users expects from an application."


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Jabra BT800
We've always had good luck with Jabra Bluetooth headsets; indeed, the Jabra FreeSpeak BT250 won our Editors' Choice award, which is why we were eager to see the company's latest product, the BT800. Of course, having heard about the headset's impressive list of features, we were even more excited to get our hands on it.
While all Bluetooth headsets offer basic hands-free operation, the BT800 takes it a step further. Through a small rectangular LCD screen, BT800 users can view caller ID information and browse through a Recent Calls list using only the headset. So, as long as you're within Bluetooth range of your cell phone (30 feet), you hardly have to look at your mobile for basic calling features. You can also use the BT800 for voice dialing from your phone book, and you can activate a vibrate mode and select from five polyphonic ring tones.
As useful as it sounds, there are some things the BT800 can't do. Using only the headset, you cannot browse through your phone book or your handset's menus, and you can call only your last-dialed number or recent list of received calls. And, just as we expected, the screen is not visible when you're wearing the headset.
The design of the BT800 differs from that of both the Jabra BT250 and the BT110. Rather than a behind-the-ear fit, it employs a traditional ear loop that can be adjusted for either ear. Also, there's no boom microphone, which makes the compact (2.7 by 1.3 by 1 inches) and understated black-and-silver form factor less conspicuous than that of other headsets we've seen. Coming in at a scant 0.8 ounce, the overall fit is very comfortable, and we did not miss Jabra's usual protruding earpiece. The ear loop is also highly flexible, so we had no problem slipping it on and off.
The 1-inch-diagonal monochrome display sports a pleasant backlighting that makes it visible in most situations. In addition to caller ID information and the Recent Calls and Settings menus, the LCD shows the headset's battery level. Similarly, controls on the Jabra BT800 were tactile and easy to master. A power button doubles as the control for ending calls, while a button for placing calls and putting callers on hold sits just next to it. These keys also serve as soft keys for the menu, as they rest just below the LCD. A single button (which doubles as a blue LED light) on the device's exterior activates the menu and mutes calls, and we loved the handy scrollwheel that is used for volume control and menu navigation.


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Never mind the gruesome Freddy Krueger masks, creepy front lawn "graveyards" and scary-sounding soundtracks.
For many of us, the most frightening specter of Halloween occurs when we have to bring out the knives and deal with the slimy insides of a pumpkin.
OK, the die-hard pumpkin carvers out there are rolling their eyes at the squeamish among us who may prefer to decorate a pumpkin — or gourd, squash or other autumnal fruit — with nary a knife. But even carve-happy traditionalists should consider expanding their repertoire, particularly if they have young kids.
"No-carve pumpkin decorating is such a great option for families who want to get amazing results without the mess and the danger of young children using sharp tools," says Mary Giles, deputy editor at FamilyFun Magazine (familyfunmag.com). It's also easier, she adds, "especially when you're dealing with little kids who might have short attention spans."
"Carving can definitely be a problem with little kids," agrees Jodi Levine, editor-at-large for Martha Stewart Living Magazine(marthastewart.com). Levine adds that a fringe benefit of the no-carve option is a greatly expanded life span for your child's creative masterpiece.
"It can depend on how fresh the pumpkin is, but once they're carved, most will not last more than a week," she says.
What's more, if you use a product like Funkins (artificial pumpkin forms sold at craft stores, go to funkins.com), "your pumpkin will last for years," Giles says.
Here are tips and ideas from Giles and Levine:
Painting the pumpkin: Giles says that even preschoolers can create a patchwork pumpkin by coloring in squares and assorted shapes using tempera paints.
If they're painting pumpkins that will be displayed outdoors, Levine recommends acrylic paint. "You can either just give the children the paints and brush, and let them go at it, or print out designs ahead of time," Levine says.
As long as you're at it, give everybody a paintbrush, Levine suggests.
"It's also fun to let each member of the family paint themselves on their own pumpkin, and then stack up the pumpkin family like a totem pole." This requires breaking the stem on the supporting pumpkins, and skewering the gourds together — definitely a task for the grown-ups.
Say it with felt: A simple no-carve idea from FamilyFun is "Masked Menageries," featuring templates (type "masked pumpkins" in the search field) that can be printed from the magazine's website. Kids cut out the masks in felt, then attach them to the pumpkins with Velcro. Assorted embellishments like googly eyes, pompoms and yarn can be added as desired.
It's a wrap: Giles recommends a no-carve pumpkin project dubbed "I Want My Mummy" (top photo): It's as simple as wrapping a pumpkin loosely with white crepe paper, and allowing a pair of eyes to peek through.
No pumpkin? No problem: Levine suggests — dare we say! — a pumpkin-less project that is as easy as placing pieces of glow sticks inside clear or white balloons, creating spooky faces on the illuminated spheres with a Sharpie, and lastly, taping the balloons to door frames or front porch posts.
Multitasking decoration: Levine, a big fan of artificial foam pumpkins like Funkins, says they're easy to decorate with glitter and paint. But she suggests an added touch: Put the finished product to work by punching it full of tiny holes to serve as a lollipop dispenser.


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Re: Aylin Vel
You're probably right about the whole....we know as much as anyone else does...thing. I just hate sleeping with something unfinished and unanswered......twirling around in my brain....all night long.(not really all night long..lol). I just think the whole "boba has a wife&daughter" thing is rubbish.....and i'm just going to dissmiss it until i have further evidence.
Believer of a SOLO boba,
[i] "I love that crunchy sound they make when they die." ―RC-1207 (Sev), killing Geonosian [/i]


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DEF LEPPARD kicked off its eleven-show residency on March 22 at The Joint in the Hard Rock Hotel And Casino in Las Vegas. Produced exclusively by AEG Live, the shows are seeing the band play their 1987 album, "Hysteria", in its entirety as well as a selection of their greatest hits, highlighting classic material from throughout their career. Viva Hysteria! features an elaborate set design created only for DEF LEPPARD's Las Vegas residency.
Fan-filmed video footage of DEF LEPPARD's April 6 concert at The Joint can be seen below.
"When Elton John started doing his residency stuff in Vegas, all of us poked our heads out like meerkats, 'Elton is doing a Vegas residency? Surely not!' It got us thinking," DEF LEPPARD singer Joe Elliott told AOL's Noisecreep. "Then I came out and sang some stuff when CHEAP TRICK did their 'Sgt. Pepper's' performances there in 2009. All of a sudden, we were in good company. The Blue Rich Brigade were over. [laughs]"
He continued: "It was just a matter of time before the people who grew up listening to KISS became rich enough and wanted to go and see a rock concert. Not just some old guy with a big blue tie. [laughs] Sooner or later, Vegas was going to catch up with itself and become cool, which it did. I think we're just riding our first wave here with this Vegas stuff. Who knows, in 5-10 years we might see SLIPKNOT and the FOO FIGHTERS doing one of these residencies."


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A local radio station asked listeners which of the following types of music did they like: Pop, Rock or Rap.
Of the 44 listeners who responded, 18 said they like Rap.
9 said they like pop and rock only, 7 said they like pop and rap only.
While 1 person likes rock and rap only.
Three times as many said they like pop only as said they like all 3 types of music.
Twice as many said they like pop as said they like Rock.
3 people said they do not like any of this music.
Let x represent those listeners who like all 3 types of music.
i) Represent this on a venn diagram
ii) Calculate x
iii) Calculate the percentage of listeners who like one type of music only. Give your answer, correct to 1 decimal place.


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Preparing for an Office Visit
Diagnosing and managing your neurologic disorder is a partnership between you and your neurologist. Much of this partnership relies upon sharing your health information.
You want your doctor to know all about your symptoms, medical history, and any prior test results. This way he or she can be more effective in diagnosing and treating your disorder.
Likewise, you want to get answers to your questions so that you and your loved ones can better understand the disorder and treatments, and how they will affect your daily life.
You can get the most out of your doctor visit if you are fully prepared. Most people visiting a neurologist want and need to have the following questions answered:
- What type of disorder do I have?
- How will this disorder affect my health?
- What is the treatment and what will it do?
- How will this disorder affect my daily life and activities?
When answering these questions, you and your neurologist will be exchanging a lot of information. It often helps to have a family member or friend with you to listen, take notes, or ask questions.
You might think about your visit with the neurologist as having several stages. During each stage there are actions which can help you be prepared.
Even if you have already met with your neurologist, these tips can be helpful for future visits or if you are referred to other medical specialists.
Pre-visit Planning Activities
- Write down the questions you would like to ask. List the most important questions first. It might be helpful to get a small spiral-bound notebook or folder to keep these questions and answers in one place and so you can add information or questions throughout your treatment.
- Ask a relative or friend to come with you to the visit. A second set of ears may be helpful.
- Gather all your medications in a bag to bring to your visit. Or write down in your notebook their names, dosage, and how often and what time you take them. Be sure to include supplements and over-the-counter medications.
- Prepare your "health history" (previous illnesses, hospitalizations, allergies, etc.) and bring it to the visit. You may want to ask your neurologist if there is a form you can complete prior to the visit. You may also want to bring your family members' health histories. Their health information may help the neurologist diagnose your condition.
- Bring other medical information and test results, such as lab work, x-rays, and MRIs. For radiological studies, ask the office if they prefer copies of the films or if reports are adequate. You may also ask your primary doctor to send records directly to your neurologist's office.
- Bring a list of the doctors you want your neurologist to update about your medical condition. Be sure to include their telephone, fax numbers, and addresses.
- Bring your insurance card and referral, if needed.
At the Office
- Plan to arrive early to complete any forms that may be needed. If you do not understand the questions or forms, ask for help—it is your right to have information explained to you.
- Give the neurologist any information about your symptoms or condition, even though you may feel that it may be unimportant or embarrassing.
- Take notes or have your companion take notes on what the neurologist tells you. If you don't understand the doctor, don't be afraid to ask for more information.
- Ask the doctor the questions you wrote out during your pre-visit planning activities, even if you may feel the questions are not important.
- Ask for handouts or Internet information that you can share with your family or review when you are at home.
- Make a follow-up appointment, if necessary.
- Find out when your neurologist will get back to you with your test results.
- Know what the next steps are in your care.
- If your neurologist prescribes medication, make sure you fully understand:
- What has been prescribed and what it should do for you
- If there is a generic substitution that is acceptable
- Exactly when and how long you are to take your medication(s)
- The potential side effects of the medications and what to do if they occur
Back at Home
- Review the information you got from the neurologist's office. If you can't remember or don't understand something you were told, call the office to get the information you need.
- Follow the neurologist's instructions. Managing your disorder is a partnership between you and your neurologist.
- Make sure any medication you get at the pharmacy or through your mail order pharmacy benefits plan is what has been prescribed for you.
- Call your neurologist's office if:
- There are any complications or changes in your condition
- You experience any side effects from the medications
- You need to follow up on your test results
Legal Concerns
There are two important legal documents that can help you and your caregivers manage your care and personal affairs. They would go into effect if you become incapacitated for any reason.
- Advance Health Care Directive
The Advanced Health Care Directive is a written statement of how you want care to be provided and the designation of an agent who is authorized to make health care decisions for you if you are unable to do so. Many states have now combined the "living will" and the "durable power of attorney for health care" into one advance directive document.
- Durable Power of Attorney
This document names the person who has the legal authority to pay your bills, deposit your checks, and handle your day-to-day matters.
These documents are generally tailored to the legal specifications of each state. Before discussing your situation with an attorney, you may wish to contact your state department of health.


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Chelsea Marr, a veteran of The Dalles Chronicle advertising staff, has been hired as general manager of the Hood River News.
Marr will be responsible for day-to-day operations, as Publisher Joe Petshow assumes additional responsibilities as president of Eagle Newspapers Inc. in January.
"Chelsea is going to make a good team here even better," Petshow said. "She's played a big role in the Chronicle's success over the years."
Marr said she is pleased about the opportunities to be more involved in newspaper publishing.
"People ask me what I like about the newspaper and the first thing that comes to mind is that it is never boring," she said. "I like to be busy and this keeps me so!
"I work with a talented group of people in the business and I enjoy making community connections; we have the ability to make a difference. A variety of media resources are available, yet we remain the most trusted source for news, information and advertising."
Chelsea and her husband, Dan, settled in Underwood, Wash., 19 years ago, when she began selling advertising at The Dalles Chronicle. Her husband works in construction, and designed and built their home. They are parents of a 7-year-old son, Wyatt. He has a trusted companion, their beloved and aging black lab mix, Oliver.
Marr grew up in Hailey, Idaho, near the resort town of Sun Valley. Her winters were spent skiing and summers horseback riding and camping.
She received a degree in business marketing from University of Nevada-Las Vegas.
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Mutual fund investors have more investment options than those who stick only to equities. In fact, Value Line provides information on around 20,000 mutual funds but only about 6,000 stocks—note that that stock number represents almost the entire market cap of available equities. The discrepancy between the two numbers is simple, a single stock can be owned by multiple mutual funds. It wouldn't be far from the truth to say that creating a mutual fund portfolio can be a daunting task, despite the perception that they are less difficult to understand.
In general, there are two ways to look at investing in funds: cherry pick your funds or stick to one family. The cherry picking approach, assuming you meet all of a fund's investment minimums, has the benefit of providing the most diverse list of potential candidates. However, it may require you to start financial relationships with multiple different companies. This can become confusing to track and definitely creates a lot of paperwork—particularly at tax time.
Going with just one family, on the other hand, can make things very simple, but it limits your fund options. That said, larger fund sponsors, such as Fidelity and Vanguard, have a myriad of fund choices for investors to select from. Moreover, while their funds may not be the "best in class" for every category, they are usually at least middle-of-the-pack performers. So while you can't guarantee getting the "best" fund, you can be reasonably confident that you won't get a bad one. Of course, a little research will go a long way in weeding out the funds you simply don't want to touch. The large fund houses also tend to offer the most diverse collections of index funds. So, if you can't find an actively managed fund to your liking, there will usually be a fallback option.
For the limitation on the selection front, you gain the benefit of having just one relationship. This can lead to reduced costs and better service. Vanguard, for example, puts shareholders who have relatively large total holdings with the firm into a special fund share class with lower expenses. With regard to service, having just one company to deal with allows you to simplify your communications and, frankly, larger fund houses have the financial wherewithal to hire, train, and retain high quality staff. That isn't to suggest that smaller fund shops don't have good employees, only that a Fidelity or a Vanguard has more heft, which gives it material flexibility. Vanguard, for one, is renowned for its customer service.
There is, however, another option for those who want their cake and eat it, too. Both Fidelity and Vanguard provide brokerage accounts through which they sell funds from other companies. This is no different than opening an account with Charles Schwab (SCHW) or a similar broker. In this scenario, fund investors get to cherry pick and deal with just one company (the brokerage arm of the fund company).
However, there are limitations to the broker approach. For starters, although brokers offer a large array of fund choices, they most likely do not offer every fund from every family. So there is a possibility that the fund you might want to purchase won't be available at the broker of your choice. Also, there may be commission costs involved; after all brokers make money by charging people for the trades they make and trading a mutual fund is, in the end, no different than trading a stock. Make sure you know the trading costs you might have to face before trying to make a trade.
Even if the fund you select is on a list of "no transaction fee" funds, you are still likely to be paying more than going direct to a fund company. This is because funds pay to be included on a broker's "no transaction fee" list. The fund family passes those costs along to shareholders in the form of added fees (12b1 fees, to be exact). So, no matter how you cut it, using a broker will likely lead to higher ongoing costs.
Going with a hybrid approach, such as using Fidelity, could be the best of both worlds. Sticking mainly with Fidelity funds would limit costs, but still give you the option of going outside the Fidelity fund family for select funds. True, the non-Fidelity funds would likely cost more to own, but overall the costs would be cheaper than going through a traditional broker and the headache would be less than going to each fund company individually.
While there is no right or wrong way to own a portfolio of mutual funds, it is something that fund investors should consider before taking an unplanned scatter shot approach. There are good and bad features of each approach, a few minutes of thought can help you figure out which one is right for you.
At the time of this articles writing, the author did not have positions in any of the securities mentioned.


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Eliot's Comfortable Love Nest
Name: Eliot (due 1/16)
Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
Color Inspiration: The inspiration for this room was four words: soft,light,luminous and warm. I choose the soft blue color for the walls long before I was even pregnant. We had recently moved into our new home and were gradually repainting the entire house. This room was chosen to be our future baby's room, and painting it, I already had a good idea of the ambiance I wanted to create. When I received the long-awaited good news, I started working on the decor and decided on a forest theme with a modern twist. The treatment of the theme, and all of the accessories and details, were selected so they'd be in agreement with my original inspiration.
Tip for Using Color: When I decorate a room, I like to start with a neutral base - here light blue and white - and use accessories to create color accents. This is an especially useful tip when decorating a baby's room, since baby accessories tend to be very colorful. The decor can easily be updated as the child grows up, or when a new color becomes fashionable and we suddenly find ourselves surrounded! Another quick color tip: I used scrapbooking paper to add decorative panels to the bookcase.
Colors Used: Bétonel's Mariage (Wedding) for the walls, then lots of white and off-white, plus a few touches of dark blue, green, dark turquoise and
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This course, the first half of the two-term series in human biology, will explore the cellular and tissue levels of organization as well as the structure and function of the integumentary, skeletal, muscular, nervous, and sensory systems of Homo sapiens. The pathological conditions associated with these systems will be addressed. You will learn to identify anatomical structures and recognize their important characteristics while gaining knowledge of anatomical and physiological terminology.
Memorization of many facts and structures will be required, but practical applications of the material will also be stressed. Emphasis will be placed upon clinical applications and the levels of organization and control that permit homeostasis. Through this approach, students are expected to develop an understanding of how anatomy and physiology relate to pathology. Regardless of your career plans, this course will give you a deeper understanding of the most complex machine you will ever use...your body.
Concurrent enrollment in BIO 314 required.
Credit Hours: 4
Prerequisites: BIO124/125, CHM124/125 and MAT 118


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Forcing Jersey City businesses to offer mandatory paid sick-leave to their employees will end up doing more harm to the local economy than good, and a comprehensive study should be conducted before the plan is implemented.
That's the message coming from New Jersey Business and Industry Association in a letter to Mayor Steven Fulop from the industry group's assistant vice president for labor and development.
"While we understand the desire to help workers, we feel that this ordinance will have a negative impact on both large and small employers," Stefanie Riehl wrote. "Given the potential for unintended consequences, we suggest that a comprehensive study be undertaken prior to implementation (as opposed to one year following implementation). Otherwise, we believe the proposal could compromise the economic engine that Jersey City has become and hurt the very people it intends to help."
To the dismay of several business groups, Fulop announced earlier this month that he plans to make the city the first in New Jersey to require that employers provide paid sick days for their workers.
RELATED: Employers groups blast Fulop bill to require paid sick leave for private sector
Fulop today said that the plan would prove beneficial to both Jersey City residents and those employed in the city. He drew on similar measures enacted across the country as examples of how successful he believes the ordinance could be.
Under Fulop's plan, employees would earn one hour of paid sick time for every 40 hours worked with a cap at 40 hours per year. Employers with 10 or more workers will be required to offer both full and part-time workers the opportunity to earn up to five paid sick days per year. Those with nine or fewer employees would still have to offer up to five unpaid sick days per year.
The matter is set to go before city council Wednesday when it next convenes at 6 p.m.
The NJBIA and a coalition of other business groups also are battling a similar measure introduced in the Assembly last spring by Pamela Lampitt (D-Voorhees). The Lampitt bill would require employers to offer workers one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours worked, with a cap at five days per year for businesses with less than 10 employees and nine days for those with 10 or more.


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You Deserve a Vibrantly Healthy Child!
On this website you will find, sacred wisdom for Preconception, A Healthy Pregnancy, A Safe Birth, Instinctual Parenting and Children's Health.
A majority of doctors and midwives are unaware of proven knowledge that can dramatically alter in a positive way, the entire life of your child including; their health, vitality, and well being. They don't know that most birth defects can be prevented, autism and other childhood diseases can be prevented, and that you can raise a disease free, happy, and content baby. They don't know how to ensure for excellent physical development, superb mental health, and good moral character. Healing Our Children explains in terms that make sense, why children get sick, and how you can free yourself, and your baby from disease. You are the one who makes a difference in the life of your offspring, even before they are born. The website is provides vital free health information. Healing Our Children is for those parents who want to take the health of their children to the next level, and who are willing to embrace more aware and conscious parenting practices.
Why Change?
Why did I write the book?
Why did I make this website?
Because nobody suffers more from our modern lifestyle, our diet, our schools, our modern births, than our children. Millions of our children suffer now from preventable diseases like: autism, birth defects, scoliosis, tooth cavities, poor growth, diabetes, arthritis, and other ailments.
Our children suffer because we as adults have forgotten how to understand them, how to nurture and care for them in all ways. Our children are longing for a hero, a savior, for someone to show them that life is more than just a fleeting glimpse of pleasure. And you are that hero / heroine for your child. At last a resource to support your own wisdom, instincts, and inner knowing.
In fact, let us cease fooling ourselves about miscarriages, birth defects, SIDS, tooth decay, autism, scoliosis, infertility, pre-mature births, early infant death and diseases of childhood.
The main causes of these diseases are explained in Healing Our Children - here is a review.
- Disease is not caused usually by germs, microorganisms, or genetic errors, by rather by a misuse and dishonoring of Nature's fundamental laws.
- We have the power to create vibrant babys. Our children get sick because their bodies degenerate from our deficient modern nutritional programs. Their bodies are also poisoned by vaccinations and harmful toxins in our environment.
- When Mother's and Father's follow a special plan during the time prior to conception, follow a special diet during pregnancy and lactation, and feed their children special foods, and care for them in a holistic manner, then parent's will significantly increase the likelihood of a little angel who is:
- super intelligent
- highly immune to disease
- straight teeth
- beautiful, compassionate, loving
- physically strong and fit.
Preconception Health is Utilizing the Time Prior to Conception for Health
With preconception health, you can decrease your odds of miscarriage by 714%, decrease your odds of birth defects by 1602%, and it is possible for 78.4% of all infertile couples to become fertile.
Prior to conception, parents need to take at least 3 months, and ideally 6-24+ months before conception to cleanse their body of toxins, and to eat special foods, which include grassfed liver (and/or fermented cod liver oil), yellow butter, and/or fish eggs.
How to Have a Healthy Pregnancy
The well-being of your baby to be, is a direct reflection of how you take care of yourself through nutrition before and during pregnancy.
What I teach is that the primary cause of disease is not genetic. But rather disease is primarily environmental. The term for this is epigentics, it explains how the expression of our genes is influenced and even controlled by environmental factors. In Dr. Weston Price's anthropological studies of Inidgenous cultures documented how our modern diet and makes us and our future baby's weak and deficient. He also documented traditional customs used to control the genetic expression in order to create a robust baby.
Here you can learn some tips to utilize Indigenous nutrition during pregnancy and lactation to change the gene expression for your offspring.
A Healthy Pregnancy Overview
- Eliminate the news from your life, both television and newspapers as they are usually sources of misinformation related to diet, nutrition, and pregnancy.
- Use organic and natural soaps and skin products, drink and bathe in only filtered water. The reason is that unnatural beauty products cause chemicals to absorb into your skin .
- Eat a diet that has enough saturated fat from free range animals, and wild sea foods. The reason is that animal fat promotes regeneration and balance in your the body. Animal fat like grassfed butter is also necessary to help your body use minerals during pregnancy and preconception.
- Eat organs from wild fish or free ranging animals such as liver, heart, bone marrow, fish eggs.
- Drink lots of raw grassfed milk, eat raw grassfed unsalted butter, and raw grassfed cream, these are some of the most nourishing foods on the planet.
- AVOID - Processed Sugar, All Flour products (except fresh ground and fermented which have had the bran and germ removed), Vegetable Oils (soy, corn, safflower, canola or cottonseed), Tofu, Soymilk, Pasteurized Milk, Non-organic fruits, vegetables and meats, Low fat foods, Other Processed Foods, these foods build up toxins in your bodies, Avoid Fluoride and fluoridated water, Fluoride is a poison. Modern foods cause physical degeneration and promote illness during pregnancy and during our adolescent's life.
A Safe Birth - Learn why some women have effortless births, while other women suffer in agony, and need emergency medical procedures to save their life? You will learn effective keys to significantly increase your likelihood of a safe and natural birth.
Summary of Creating a Vibrant Offspring
Your infants well-being is not genetic.
Your infants health is a a result of how well your genes are expressed. This is a factor of nutritional stores and stored toxins that are passed along from mother, and father, to your baby. The result is either wellness, or disease depending on those two factors. Adolescent disease begins as improper nutrition before conception.
Vaccines do not work and they do not prevent the diseases that they are supposed to prevent. Vaccines usually cause disease as they introduce toxic matter into the body.
"The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective."
Circumcision is a hidden form of violence, sexual abuse, and male infant genital mutilation, do not do it.
Your child's real needs are love, attention, respect, breast Milk, and holding. Learn about the tragic child raising practices of the west, and the enlightening practices of Indigenous people.
Holding - Hold your child for the first 0-6 months and never abandon them. In many Indigenous cultures, the mother's never abandon their children. That means you can be in another room, or outside, but not inaccessible when your child needs you.
Breastfeeding - Breast milk is your child's best food, so nursing on cue is vital to your child's well-being, even at night. Breastfeed for 4-7 years. Continuing to nourish children with breast milk means that the Mother can never be too far away.
A Continuum of Care - After the initial bonding stages, your child stays in his second womb for several years as he develops a sense of himself. In this period, of 0-6 years, he needs to be held frequently and on cue, breastfed on cue, and have his needs for union, love, contact, honored. In our modern culture, we usually discard our child's bonding needs by putting them in nursery's that cannot nurture, and day care's that cannot care. This is because most of this caring needs to be done by the child's mother, or close family member with the mother accessible. You cannot fathom the intensity of the pain your child faces, if you abandon him or her for even 3 minutes.
Nourish your offspring with excellent food. Since you will learn that childhood disease can be caused by improper nutrition, we can prevent it through proper nutrition.
Wisdom Is Within All of Us!
Trust the voice within, listen to your heart, it knows what is right.
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Learn more information about fertility, a healthy pregnancy, a safe birth, and natural parenting.
If you have enjoyed this website, then the published book which this website is based upon, Healing Our Children, is a must read. A vibrant and healthy child can be yours. Even your doctor or midwife do not know the vital information revealed in this book. Give your best to your children and future children...
Published book Healing Our Children will teach you how to have happy and vibrant baby today.
Feedback From Readers Who Have Nurtured Their Offspring with advice from Healing Our Children
This truly is a book to heal our future generation of children! - Hally Cuttner
Ramiel Nagel's book "Healing Our Children", lovingly provides holistic perspectives on the many facets of parenting and family life. Through the guidance of this book we have become more aware and enlightened parents. Overall, this book exudes an energy of life and honesty. It is a refreshing addition to the run of the mill parenting guide. Thank you Rami! - Jamie Busch, New Jersey
This book is a treasure for new families, for all those who are planning on having children or already have young kids. - Olga
In this book Rami explains the basics of how nutrition is linked to so many of these so-called "incurable" diseases. At the end of the day, there are no shortcuts. We do need to take full responsibility of raising our children properly. - Sandeep Agarwal
Healing Our Children reveals that each disease of pregnancy and childhood can be prevented naturally. The secrets of having a vibrant, bright-eyed baby are explained in easy to grasp terms.
Learn how to:
·substantially reduce your child's risk for disease.
·reduce your risk of birth defects by 1602%, miscarriage by 640%, and premature births by 315%.
·reverse infertility with 78.4% success eating real food.
·raise your child so they feel loved, honored and cherished.
Healing Our Children will serve as an important tool in reversing the now obvious trend to physical degeneration and restoring vibrant health to all children.
Weston A. Price Foundation
I've read over 12 books on this topic and this is my number one book to the extent that it's become my bible, in that I've read it over 5 times and my husband has also read it. Ramiel's book really helped us along this journey and I can't recommend this book enough. It's truly is life changing!! If you are going to buy a diet / nutritional / lifestyle book for pre-pregnancy, pregnancy or for children, this book would be my number one choice.
Jena Morris - Australia
My daughter just turned 5 and we adopted the recommendations you mention in the book. I have to say that I have never seen her that happy. Always in a good mood and I've never seen a baby that smiley.
If you are planning to have a child, be sure to read the book, "Healing Our Children."
"Healing Our Children" will help you prepare for a healthy pregnancy and also contribute to the health and wellness of your entire family.
Pam Killeen,
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I had to get to the Toothless Lady. The light would be amazing.
I'm an artist and writer who lives in the Appalachian foothills of Ohio. With this blog, I hope to show what happens when you make room in your life, every day, for the things that bring you joy. Strange...most of them are free.
Feb. 21-25, 2018: Julie Zickefoose-keynote, field trips, workshop at San Diego Bird Festival Marina Village Conference Center, San Diego, CA
Mon. Feb. 26, 2018: "Baby Birds: An Artist Looks Into the Nest" talk with booksigning at 1 pm. Wild Birds Unlimited 17611 Yorba Linda Blvd, Yorba Linda CA 92886 (714) 985-4928
Fri. Mar. 9, 2018, 7:30 pm: "Baby Birds: An Artist Looks Into the Nest" with booksigning at Burroughs Nature Club Willoughby United Methodist Church, 15 E Spaulding St, on the Square, Willoughby, OH 44094. Dinner is at 6:30, reservations required for dinner, program at 7:30 open to all
Fri. April 13, 2018, 7:00 pm:Explorer Series featuring Women in Science "Baby Birds: An Artist Looks Into the Nest" with booksigning at Cleveland Museum of Natural History 1 Wade Oval Dr. Cleveland OH 44106. Doors open at 5 pm, refreshments, lecture, question and answer and book signing follow.
Sat. April 14-Sun. April 15, 2018:Atlanta Audubon Society Bird Fest, Kickoff Ceremony with Julie Zickefoose and "Baby Birds" Chattahoochee Nature Center 9135 Willeo Rd, Roswell, GA 30075.
Fri. and Sat. April 27-28, 2018:Carolina Bird Club Spring Meeting with Julie Zickefoose and "Baby Birds" Mountain Lodge and Conference Center 42 McMurray Rd, Flat Rock, NC 28731.
Tues. May 1-Sun. May 6, 2018: Julie Zickefoose at New River Birding Festival, Fayetteville, WV. Keynote by Julie Zickefoose; music by some of The Rain Crows on Saturday, May 7. The Bacon will be there in spirit.
Thurs., May 10-Fri. May 11, 2018: Julie Zickefoose at Biggest Week in Am. Birding, Maumee Bay, OH Keynote by Julie Zickefoose May 10, Birding with JZ Fri. AM
Thu. Jun 7, 2018:Nature Artists' Guild Evening Presentation with Julie Zickefoose and "Baby Birds" Morton Arboretum 4100 IL Rte. 53, Lisle, IL 60532, (630) 968-0074
Fri. Jun 8, Sat. Jun 9, 2018:Nature Art Workshop with Julie Zickefoose Morton Arboretum 4100 IL Rte. 53, Lisle, IL 60532, (630) 968-0074. Walks and talks and drawing too!
Sat. Sept. 15, 2018, 1-3 pm:"Bertie's Tea" with Julie Zickefoose Dawes Arboretum 7770 Jacksontown Rd, Newark, OH 43056.(740) 323-2355
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So much to respond to...the beauty of your photos, the breathlessness of your wonder, and the challenge of your expression. You made this "old" English major look up deliquescing. Thank you. My brain needs all of that.
What beautiful pictures. Thank you for pointing out many delightful features, that phrase 'delightful features' seems so inadequate to capture ice and sunlight, barns, birds across the path, blue sky beaming through the roof of a barn. Thanks for rising early.
Those hills! That sky! All those old bank barns! I had to go to the big screen for the photos, much too beautiful for the small screen. Drone on!
I wallow in the beauty you share, cognizant that there are oil derricks and slaughtered woods that you COULD focus your mind and camera on – but choose not to. I try to do the same here; it is the only way forward.
Julie Zickefoose writes and paints from Indigo Hill, an 80-acre sanctuary in Appalachian Ohio. Her books include Letters from Eden, The Bluebird Effect, and Baby Birds: An Artist Looks Into the Nest. Learn more on Julie's website.
If you like what you see, and are tempted to lift something for your own use, you need to contact me and play Mother May I. Extra points for genuflecting and offering recompense, linkage, and obsequious tribute. If you reproduce my photos, art or writing without asking, I will track you down with my Googlehounds, and you don't want that. Aooooooo!


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Wow, that sounds so stressful!
Would you consider trying 1 ounce once every hour during the day?
Not letting him sleep longer than 2 hours at night is a good idea at this point.
The only reason I can imagine for talking about formula is if the doctor is considering human milk fortifier to get more calories and nutrients per ounce into him. But HMF could be added to breast milk.
I'm sorry you're going through this!