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|January 13, 2013, 04:11 PM
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Silencer on a skinny factory barrel rifle
Does installing a can on a skinny barrel rifle impact the accuracy of that rifle? I have read that the POI can be altered, which is no big deal. The barrel harmonics are the biggest concern. If the weight of the can plus the "leverage" on the tip of the barrel changes harmonics, then it would become a project to find another load that produces acceptable accuracy?
If anybody has any experience with this, please weigh in. I have a CZ American in .222 Reminton that has been a booger to get figured out, but it seems that the problems have been ironed out. I am looking at a YHM 3200, to quiet the muzzle blast for prairie poodle popping.
|January 13, 2013, 06:50 PM
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Anything you hang on a barrel will change the frequency it vibrates at. Doing so may or may not change its accuracy. But the only thing that'll change is the barrel's resonant frequency and its harmonics; they'll still stay fixed for every shot fired regardless of the loads power; lower frequency for flimsy barrels, higher frequency for stiffer ones.
There's no accuracy difference between whippy, skinny barrels and stiff, thick ones. And many times a short, skinny barrel will be stiffer than a longer, thicker one for the same cartridge. If a load won't shoot accurate in a barrel, it's not how stiff or rigid the barrel is; something else ain't right.
Glue a large nut or two to the barrel just behind the muzzle then see what happens. Move the nuts back and forth to see if there's any difference. That's cheaper than a muzzle brake. You can accomplish the same thing by changing powder charge weight to make bullets exit at a different point on the muzzle axis vertical swing to improve accuracy.
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|January 13, 2013, 10:06 PM
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Thanks, Bart---You hit right on what I was thinking. If the harmonics change due to the added mass of a silencer, then perhaps a new load would have to be developed? I normally enjoy that kind of stuff, but right now, the components are in short supply, and I am really limited on the powder that is good for this gun.
I guess, considering that it might take 6 months to get the paperwork handled (or a lot longer) that powder might be available to us loaders by then.
Thanks again for your comments.
|January 14, 2013, 07:02 AM
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What powders do you have now? IMR4198 was a benchrest winner decades ago when the .222 Rem was "the" cartridge to win benchrest matches. H322 is also an excellent choice.
Changing charge weight does the same thing as as adding weight or moving it at the muzzle end. All both do is change the point where the bullet exits the muzzle as it whips up and down vertically. It's cheaper to change the charge weight than how much weight's on the muzzle or where it's at. Besides, a weight on the muzzle end needs to be moved if another load's used, so I think it's best to just change charge weight and/or powder type.
In the following burn rate chart, item 70 through 74 all all excellent for the .222. Use stick/extruded powder for best accuracy; ball powder's never been popular for best accuracy in any rifle cartridge.
That YHM 3200 at $500.00 is probably going to be a waste of money anyway. If you cannot get the barrel to shoot well with a different load, I doubt it'll do any better with that silencer on its muzzle. And what if it's not the barrel's problem? Something about the reloads may be the cause; tools, setup, component choices. And, just maybe, it's neither the rifle or the ammo that's at fault.
One thing to check; does the stock's fore end touch the barrel at any place? If so, that's guaranteed to be an accuracy detriment.
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|January 14, 2013, 06:35 PM
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The best powder so far is IMR 4198. The accuracy issue turned out to be a problem with neck sizing only. When starting out to find an accurate load, the Nosler 40 BT with 21 grains of 4198 was shooting good. At that time I was using new brass that I had passed through the full length die. Experimented with the COAL and was getting an occasional 1/2 inch group at 100 yds which is about as good as I can do anyway. Then things started getting wierd. Long story short, after doing some research in this forum, and reading other sources, it occurred to me that the issue might be that I had begun reusing my brass and the once fired brass was neck sized only. As best I can remember, the accuracy seemed to fall off about the time I started reusing that brass. I got a Hornady headspace gauge and with some experimenting the accuracy has improved to where it was at first. So at this time I am optomistic that the gun and the load are matched well enough for prairie dogging.
As for the suppressor, I don't expect that to improve accuracy, Bart. I am looking for experienced shooters that can attest to the fact that even if the can does shift the POI, the basic accuracy potential of the rifle does not diminsh after mounting the silencer. The purpose of the silencer is to decrease the report so I can shoot next to some rural residences without becoming annoying to the locals.
Thanks for the burn chart info. I will look into that directly.
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|January 14, 2013, 08:40 PM
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When a weight's put on a rifle barrel at the muzzle, the barrel whips at a different frequency and harmonics for each shot. That extra weight makes the frequency lower. If it changes such that the bullet's leave while the muzzle axis is on the down swing, accuracy will be compromised. Slower bullets will leave at a lower angle, faster ones at a higher angle.
Best accuracy happens when the opposite happens. Slower bullets leaving at a higher/greater angle are compensated for their drop. Faster ones won't drop as much down range so their leaving at a lower angle doesn't cause a problem. This is the reason why the Brit's .303 SMLE's were so accurate at ranges past 500 yards with ammo having big muzzle velocity spreads.
So, I think your accuracy will change; maybe better, maybe worse.
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|January 14, 2013, 11:30 PM
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Thanks for your comments, Bart. I did look at the burn rate chart, and may try some different powders when the panic buying dies down and they become available again. H322 looks interesting.
And your comments about the outcome of mounting a silencer and accuracy, I was thinking what you said, that the results might be better or worse. Well, the shooting club we belong to sells silencers, so tomorrow me and the better half will go punch some holes in paper and then discuss cans with the fine folks that run the place.
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|January 15, 2013, 03:07 AM
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With regards to suppressing rifles with "skinny barrels", I can offer you the following information based on my own experience:
The rifle in the picture below is a Remington model 7 youth model with a standard factory "sporter" (read Pencil) barrel.
With respect to "skinny barrels and suppression, the absolute first thing you need to determine is whether or not your muzzle diameter is large enough to support threading to a pitch of 1/2X28 and leave enough meat on the barrel to provide enough shoulder for your suppressor to "index" upon.
Without a "square" shoulder to index the can on baffle strikes are almost assured. Absent sufficient shoulder you also run the risk of the muzzle protruding too far into cans "blast chamber" causing carbon buildup on the exposed threads seizing the can to the barrel.
If your muzzle diameter will support threading but insufficient shoulder you have two options:
1. Cut the barrel back to a point where there is sufficient diameter for the required shoulder or:
2. Choose a fast Attach can that uses a Flash Hider or Muzzle Break attachment for the can, have your barrel threaded "long" and have the mount index on the muzzle.
No shoulder is required in option 2.
Option 2 is the route I took with above pictued Model 7. I went that route because I didn't want to cut several inches off the barrel to support having the shoulder:
In the above picture you can see the exposed threads behind the suppressor mount allowing for the mount to be "run" all the way down against the muzzle.
To some it may be unsightly but my kids don't seem to notice:
Accuracy has not been an issue with respect to teh can being indexed on the muzzle and with 40 grain ballistic tips and a standard charge of WC844T this riifle will have all rounds touching at 100 yards.
The suppressor I use on all my 223/556's is an AAC M42000 and it's the one shown on this rifle.
The M42K is somewhat heavy coming in at at 17.5 ounces (without the mount) and on this thin barreled rifle all that weight causes a 7 inch POI shift at 100 yards (from an unsuppressed zero).
That shift is repeatable with boring regularity with removing and replacing the can.
With regards to continued accuracy between suppressed and unsuppressed groups, there is no difference between the two.
Groups suppressed mirror those of the unsuppressed rifle, again, with boring regularity.
I will share that it has been my experience (with a properly threaded barrel and indexed can) there is no detriment to accuracy with respect to adding a suppressor.
If your rifle grouped well prior to using a can, it should continue to group well when suppressed.
If it doesn't then there is a problem with how the barrel is threaded/how the can is mounted.
At times I have noticed a small "increase" in accuracy and I have rifles whose groups (with pet loads) tighten somewhat when the suppressor is attached but not significantly so.
Groups tighten on my rifles (that display this trait while suppressed ) on the order of about 10%.
That said, I have never had a barrel that I considered inaccurate shoot markedly better with a suppressor attached.
I hope this tiny bit of info coupled with what Bart B shared has helped in some way.
If youhave anymore questions, feel free to ask.
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|January 15, 2013, 09:29 PM
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Exactly the kind of input I was searching for, ATCDoktor. In looking further into the internet, there are some good vidoes and various articles/threads in which the opinions mirror what you and Bart have provided.
I have a varmint barrel 22-250 that is deadly (when I git'er done) and I am thinking maybe that is a better candidate for the can. I don't have a bunch of dollars to invest in this project, so the YHM 3200 looks affordable, and from the feedback on the internet they seem to be good units. Not the best, but good.
Whatever decision I make, you and Bart provided great info. Thanks to ya both!
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Mary's life too, chants her Son's eucharistic hymn of praise and self-gift long before she accompanies Him to the moment when He hands over all that He is on the cross. Eucharistic tones reverberate in Mary's Immaculate Conception, in the Annunciation, in her hearing her Son proclaim the Kingdom, in her presence at Calvary, and in her sharing in the Easter glory.
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Mary's eucharistic living is evident in the moment when divinity unites with human flesh at her consent, "Let it be done to me according to your Word." The Lord instituted the sacramental Eucharist for us to consume and thereby have the divine life pulsating strongly within us. Mary's "yes" to the invitation of God foreshadows our "Amen" at being offered the Eucharist. Amen, here, means "Yes, I believe it is the Body of Christ, and, yes, I wish to receive it." It is implicitly a consent that the Body of Christ — broken, offered, received and consumed — may effect a change in us who partake of it.
Mary experiences deep within her the distinct energies of the Trinitarian persons, as if eavesdropping on the dialogue of the Trinity's plan for her. Mary knows, then, a Father sharing His Son with her, and she knows this contemplatively in the depths of her being. The Father is handing over to her, and through her to all humanity, that which is most precious to Him, His beloved Son. Mary knows these truths with her whole being. Mary's fiat opens the path for the eternal Word to enact His Incarnation in space and time. Mary is present to the moment when the Son clothes himself in the frailty, dependence, poverty and even death that mark every human life.
At the first moment made possible by Mary's assent, the world begins to hear the Son whisper, "Take this, all of you and eat it, this is My Body; take and drink, this is My Blood, given up for you." Mary silently possesses more than an inkling of the self-surrender that God envisions.
The Son empties himself by taking on human nature and Mary nourishes humanity's self-sacrificing Savior toward His birth. She and He, both anticipate His self-offering on the cross, the offering that rises from burial into resurrection and is present each time the Eucharist is celebrated. Mary's praying heart delights in the wonder, adoration and gratitude with which she accompanies the child she carries. With maternal love she worships thankfully the presence within her in a unique communion.
Mary, Woman of the Eucharist, plays a role in this formation of Christ's followers into a eucharistic community. It means learning a new way of being loved by God. Their souls are being awakened to tolerate and then to rejoice that Jesus comes not to be served but to serve. Their hands and their hearts are stained with a grime of laboring in a world polluted by greed, prejudices, dishonesty and violence.
Mary joyfully waits at the center to share what she has received. Eucharistic nuances continue to pervade Mary's discipleship of her Son, especially in her loyal, fearless participation in His death and resurrection. Mary's consent to the angel at the annunciation reaches its climax in her Son's perfect obedience to the inevitable, not a resentful passivity in the face of something she desperately wants to alter.
Mary cooperates in the sacrifice of Jesus. Indeed, as Jesus struggles toward the altar of the cross, Mary's spirit accompanies Him with the prayer that nothing may dissuade Him from His goal. Pope John Paul II says, "Mary embraces both the incomparable grief of a woman who witnesses her Son's execution and the awe of one who witnesses a compassion as vast as God himself. Mary is the 'Woman of the Eucharist' in her whole life."
Mary teaches the Church how to adore the Lord at the foot of the cross, where blood and water flowed from the Savior's pierced side. Jesus' disciples, even His closest friends, had to learn of the empty tomb before their despair turned to hope, but Mary is deeply consoled even as she cradles Jesus' lifeless body in her arms. It is Mary who leads the Church to the Eucharistic Lord. She is intimately involved in her Son's love for the world. Her heart comes to us with the love that overflows from the heart of God.
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Solution providers are holding off on Java EE 5 development until the major application server vendors release compatible updates. Dr. Dobb's reports that while Sun's Java System Application Server has support and BEA's WebLogic is close, IBM lags behind.
Java EE 5 was a major update and most of the major application server vendors do not yet have compliant versions released. This is delaying most solution providers from developing products based on it, as their customers are not ready for them.
"We have it in our lab, and one of our customers has it in their lab, but no one is deploying it yet," said Robert Abate, principal at RCG Information Technology, an Edison, N.J., services firm with a large J2EE practice. "All of our clients are on application servers that don't support it yet, and none of our clients would be willing to deploy anything on a beta application server," said Aaron Mulder, CTO of Chariot Solutions, Fort Washington, Pa.
Among the major vendors, Sun has released support, WebLogic is close with JBoss following soon after. Oracle has not announced a road map and IBM is lagging significantly behind, with full support not due until 2008. According to Mark Heid, IBM's director of application infrastructure product management:
"We see two types of customers right now, and the majority type is telling us, 'You're shipping things to us so quickly and comprehensively that we're having a hard time consuming it"
Here's an overview of where the vendors stand with their support for Java EE 5
|Sun Java System Application Server Platform Edition 9.0 was released in May, based on Project Glassfish.
|End of the year
|BEA has a preview release out and is targeting a full release of WebLogic with by the end of the year.
|First quarter 2007
|JBoss AS 5 will provide full support.
|Release in 2008
|Feature packs for WebSphere 6.1 with support for Web services and SOA are in alpha testing and should be out in the first half of 2007.
|Road map not published.
Amongst other vendors, one noteworthy update is SAP, who, announced last month that they have achieved compatibility with the new specification and they have put out a preview release of it.
One of the biggest changes in Java EE 5 is EJB 3.0. Here is an overview of how the major vendors have responded to EJB 3.0.
|Glassfish recives TopLink Essentials from Oracle
|Acquired Kodo by purchasing SolarMetric last November, available stand-alone and in development preview release
|Hibernate 3.2 released providing full JPA support and certification and embeddable EJB 3.0 engine.
|Feature pack providing support for WebSphere 6.1 goes into testing in the first half of 2007.
|Oracle Application Server 10g Release 3 includes EJB 3.0 implementation.
Another reason for the slow adoption of Java EE 5 could be the continued popularity of the Spring Framework. The IT-eye blog notes that with Spring 2.0 you can leverage many application server features without worrying about upgrading to a new version of the spec.
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Did you check java.sun.com/javaee/overview/compatibility.jsp ?
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I didn't read the entire post. You mention it.
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SAP rocks... SAP's product is very good !!!
Hopefully SAP's product is great. But judging from Google, it seems that you are a SAP employee, and it might also have been good to mention that :-)
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Tips on light to zero wind flying
September 29, 2011, 01:58 PM »
Getting back into flying stunt kites. Been forced to fly in little to no winds.
I have gotten some good advice so far but I could use some more.
Getting a better light touch but I am nowhere near being able to fly in zero wind.
Forced to fly like a shark. always keep moving. once the kite stalls I'm dead.
Trying to temper my inputs as a quick step back and I'm pulling the kite out of the sky.
I do best with my Wren. I can now keep my Airwave zero in the air. Love the Shadow but I need about 5mph. Tried the new Ocius SUL. Great kite but I need about 2mph to keep it flying.
I have a hard time recovering from
1) The kite slows down and then stalls with no forward drive.
2) Pulling an axel that moving forward and I lose contact so it just floats or drops to the ground
Last Edit: September 29, 2011, 04:48 PM by Wayner
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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September 29, 2011, 03:25 PM »
Hey there, W...
One thing I figured out about light/no wind flying is that the rule of keeping your hands at your side doesn't apply. I keep my hands out in front of me so I can get an extra pump when I need it. Too little slack when flying in light wind is rarely a problem. I am gifted with long arms, so light wind flying usually doesn't require much footwork, just smooth, long arm sweeps. All of the kites you list should be capable of close to zero wind flight if properly adjusted.
I made a light wind video a few months ago, and you can see what I'm talking about clearly. It's not much for the tricks, just really about the flying when the wind is that light.
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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September 29, 2011, 03:40 PM »
Best observation for light wind flying came from Steve here, a master of light wind flying and the Trick Tail UL. Your window is vertical. That is keep the kite directly downwind (down air movement?). Don't fly too far side to side, you know how a kite stalls as you approach the edge? the edges narrow as the wind speed drops.
More directed to flying rather then tricking but practice the three step, whenever the kite is nose up and climbing slowly take three steps backward, whenever the kite is nose down take three larger steps forward or more if possible.
Many tricks can take a small step or two forward even in light wind. The biggest problem with light wind flying is ending up with your back against the fence. Many UL's and even some standards can fly with just the slight help of slowly walking backward, get in the habit of reclaiming that ground at every opportunity.
PS: Rob might think he doesn't use much footwork but watching that video he just posted he practices the 3 step, it's become such a natural process he doesn't even realize he's doing it
Last Edit: September 29, 2011, 03:43 PM by mikenchico
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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September 29, 2011, 04:38 PM »
+1 on Mikenchico's info.
Thanks for the vid, RobB. It is actually a great example of footwork. You feet aren't still for more than a few seconds anywhere in there. The parts where you had real wind (for a Vapor) really show how much down wind movement is needed for things like 540s with a really light kite. At 2-3 MPH a kite like the Vapor is like a standard weight kite in 12MPH.
Wayner, keep in mind that large, high end SULs such as the Vapor are generally the easiest to fly in low/no wind. Smaller kites are much more likely to get pulled out of the sky over and over again. But I learned low wind on a tiny little 3D, so it can be done and it's just as much fun.
Problem is, very few people make old skool SULs these days. Modern SULs designed for tricks are often much harder to fly in low/no wind than older, floatier designs.
Light wind flying is HARD, but keep at it. It's pretty much all I do these days.
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September 29, 2011, 05:11 PM »
But light wind flying is the quickest road to Kite Zen, Nirvana, Aoxomoxoa, the "Zone ", whatever you prefer. It's a dance, pure rythm. Rob has the dance down to the point he doesn't think of the dance, the music, he is just enjoying the rythm. Up and back, down and forward, right and left, left and right.
How to get there? I used to spend hours just flying big lazy infinitys (horizontal figure 8s). As the kite climbs step back, as it moves to the right step back and to the left, reverse and step forward when decending. Reverse the 8s so it's natural to both sides. Fly straight up and down while doing the step. Light winds are the best time to play with the Flare, Flare to a half spin to straight back up. You could even Turtle to half Lazy to slow unroll to dive at the top. Rythm, repetition, DANCE.
Steve used to talk and dream about those "Butterfly fart " days, those are the days you become one with the kite & wind. Don't fight them, dance with them.
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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September 29, 2011, 07:39 PM »
I think of myself as very good at light to no wind.
My feet never stop moving...not just moving forward and back but also walking side to side depending on the pull.
I use finger straps and I can feel when the little gust of wind (+0.5mph) comes up.
My hands and arms are always moving.
My eyes are always on the kite.
Never let the kite stall...it needs to always be in motion. Like racing cars...you are either on the gas or the brake, anything inbetween is wasted. In light wind if you are going to the top of the wind window you want to continue the momentum and arc in the natural position and not try to reverse direction at the top of the window. If you think about it, you are breaking the natural flow of air.
I can do 360s all day long.
I love the Ocius SUL and can fly indoors without any issue. That kite will fly in absolutely NO wind without much effort and a good amount of pull.
Practice, practice, practice. When I fly my kites I fly the entire time. If there is light wind I am flying while EVERYONE else is sitting. Yea, it is a lot of work but I have learned skills that others do not even try to obtain because it is too much work.
Last but not least...you have to be in control of the kite at all times. If you do not have control and finese you are lost.
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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September 29, 2011, 09:56 PM »
Quote from: Wayner on September 29, 2011, 01:58 PM
Tried the new Ocius SUL. Great kite but I need about 2mph to keep it flying.
Maybe try making sure the settings are correct on the kite and the angle of attk is where its grabbing the most wind? That kite should be able to fly with no issue in 2mph winds.
What everyones said is great advice. Movement and smooth inputs are really the key (imo) to light/next to no wind flying. Its all about finesse.
Good luck!
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September 29, 2011, 09:59 PM »
jeepers wrote..
"My feet never stop moving...not just moving forward and back but also walking side to side depending on the pull."
And that's a good point: Don't just walk up and down. Move around. Use your movement to power and de-power the kite.
When you walk side to side as the kite flies either in the same or the opposite direction, you can accomplish much more.
When walking in the direction of kite travel in low wind you insure that the kite stays in, or close to, the center of the wind window which helps you to maintain pressure on the sail.
if you also add a backward component to your movement, you are now walking diagonally backward, maintaining even more pressure on the sail while keeping the kite at or close to the center of the wind window.
Walking forward to gain ground you can also use sideways/diagonal forward movement to stay at or close to the point of maximum sail pressure for a given wind speed by insuring you are as close to the center of the (meager) wind window as possible which allows you to steer the kite around the window more effectively.
Walking against the direction of kite travel when moving forward or backward, with or without a diagonal component, is an effective way to power the kite to increase sail pressure. This can be an effective way to gain or give ground as well as freeing you (temporarily) from the constraints of a tiny wind window.
While this is all useful in light wind, don't stop there. There is a lot of subtle control left on the table if you are not using these techniques in higher winds as well.
Of course, in true Zero wind, the wind window is as large or small as you make it. You are the wind. lol.
Last Edit: September 30, 2011, 12:22 AM by JimB
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September 29, 2011, 11:24 PM »
Keep moving but don't move anymore than needed or you may tucker out quickly. When the wind is super low, it's all about how much effort you are willing to put out to keep the kite tricking.
Move whatever you need to to keep going, arms, legs, lean, run,walk, skip, whatever.
Watch your slack. When you pump the kite up the window, pull then ease to slack otherwise you'll have too much and no connection with the kite. Be as gentle as you can when ever possible.
Use the appropriate kite, that Ocius SUL will do just fine.
The # one thing that will help in SUL wind is experience. So fly however light it seems.
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September 30, 2011, 04:37 PM »
The only way to really learn is to go put in some serious hours of practice. Anyone can learn to fly in light wind.
Every kiter struggles with it for a while. If you're a kite nut you'll stick with it and then it will be a real joy. It's by far my favorite type of flying.
I can't really add anything about technique that hasn't already been said other than one thing. Get used to your kite flying really slow and try not to panic when it stalls or almost stalls. Relax, be smooth.... it's not magic.
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September 30, 2011, 05:25 PM »
Quote from: John Welden on September 30, 2011, 04:37 PM
Relax, be smooth.... it's not magic.
The way that you fly your Vapor, it is! Honestly, it is like watching a dance with the kite.
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Quote from: tpatter on September 30, 2011, 05:25 PM
Quote from: John Welden on September 30, 2011, 04:37 PM
Relax, be smooth.... it's not magic.
The way that you fly your Vapor, it is! Honestly, it is like watching a dance with the kite.
Thanks Tom.
You are the kite hill guru these days:)
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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October 02, 2011, 01:35 PM »
My 2 cent of advice,
Remember to keep assisting the kite on its way up, that can be as subtle as waving your body back in the up part of a loop and forward on the way down, assisting the gravity. This keeps the speed pretty constant and you are not losing ground.
Move only as much as you need, that saves your stamina and the kite is better to control, since you feel better when the wind is in fact enough to fly or when you need to assist with movement.
The direction you are flying is also important, horizontal movements need less wind then a straight up vertical one. If the wind is not enough to fly straight up, try to fly at an angle up, like 45 degrees, it needs less wind.
Or if the wind is only enough for a horizontal move, try to ladder the kite up, fly horizontal, loop upward while assisting the kite, fly towards the other side, loop up again, and so on.
Learn when you can move towards the kite. Gaining ground is important, otherwise you will run out of room to back paddle on.
If you need to quickly recover ground, a 360 is a good move to gain ground downwind, since that is the direction you move yourself into the most during a 360. A Headover works for this as well, but its harder to do, since you are pulling the kite overhead directly into wind, less marking for error and ramping up your movement.
The quality of the wind is also very important, try if possible in thise light morning, evening breezes, the more stable the wind the easier.
Air temperature plays a big role as well, its much easier during the winter, when the air is colder and therefore heavier then during the heat waves in summer. But that of course is hardly anything we can have any control over, just something to be aware of.
Be aware of the ground in your flying spot, holes? thrash on the ground, other kites or lines on the ground.
Your flying line also plays a big role, length, weight and diameter wise. The longer your line is the more you have to move to keep the kite in the air, since the line weight drags it down and the line itself acts as break due to the surface area that is dragged through the air. 20-40lbs breaking strength lines are more then enough for zero and very low wind flying. Which you want in the thinnest diameter you can get. Of course trick flying influences the choice as well. For tricking you want generally speaking thicker lines, less harm to the kite during wrap ups etc from that.
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
Reply #13 on:
October 02, 2011, 09:59 PM »
Quote from: ae on October 02, 2011, 01:35 PM
The quality of the wind is also very important, try if possible in thise light morning, evening breezes, the more stable the wind the easier.
Air temperature plays a big role as well, its much easier during the winter, when the air is colder and therefore heavier then during the heat waves in summer. But that of course is hardly anything we can have any control over, just something to be aware of.
THis is true but during hot summer days depending on your flying field using the thermal up drafts can help a lot. Catch em when flying my vapor from time to time and it makes for near endless pinwheels
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Re: Tips on light to zero wind flying
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October 03, 2011, 09:49 AM »
Thanks to you all for the wisdom. I love this site.
Putting all these ideas together I have lowered my wind flying wind speed by 2 m.p.h.
Now I'm flying in lighter winds vs. just fighting to keep the kite in the air.
What I learned.
- I put my "old school" Wren on 20' lines (instead of 60') and can fly in zero winds.
- RobB's video and all your comments help me understand smooth. All my movements were to quick.
- To develop control and precision by avoiding slack and keeping the kite moving.
What blew my mind and open up a new world to me.
- mikenchico idea of flying vertical because the wind window is narrow
- JimB idea of walking around when the kite is in the window to maintain sail pressure.
I have spend a lot of time flying with poor technique. It was a joy to start flying properly and start developing the proper skills.
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AACM | Nate Chinen on Roscoe Mitchell's Day Off
For Ars Nova Workshop's AACM: Great Black Music Festival, we've asked several leading jazz scholars and journalists to engage performers in a series of pre-concert public discussions about the history, present, and future of the AACM. On Sunday, June 12 at Settlement Music School, New York Times music writer Nate Chinen will talk with first generation AACM member Roscoe Mitchell, whose Sound Ensemble will perform following the discussion. Chinen made the following post on his blog, The Gig.
If you're reading this, you probably know it's a busy time for jazz. So I'll keep this brief. On Sunday evening at 6 p.m., I'll be moderating a conversation with saxophonist, composer and AACM heavyweight Roscoe Mitchell, at Settlement Music School in Philadelphia. The talk (which is free) will precede an 8 p.m. performance by his Sound Ensemble (which isn't). It's part of a weekend-long Mitchell residency, within a larger AACM series, presented by Ars Nova Workshop.
Roscoe Mitchell is, of course, a fiercely individual thinker and creative force, and while I haven't yet had the honor of interviewing him, I have heard him speak on a few occasions. The most memorable of these was during a symposium in Guelph, Ontario, in 2005. That was for a 40th-anniversary celebration for the AACM; during the same weekend, Mitchell also performed with the Art Ensemble of Chicago and in duo with Pauline Oliveros. (I wrote about it in JazzTimes.)
Incidentally, the other night I was at the Vision Festival speaking with Yulun Wang of Pi Recordings, which has released albums by the Art Ensemble as well as Mitchell's collaboration with two fellow AACM stalwarts, pianist Muhal Richard Abrams and George Lewis. The subject of AACM commemoration came up, and I naturally mentioned the classic John Hughes film Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Yulun didn't know what I was talking about, which led me to believe that this bit of trivia might not be as well-known as I'd thought.
A few years ago this movie was on TV and I caught a little detail in the Chicago parade scene. Look at the banners that go by during Matthew Broderick's slow ride on the float. It's hard to make out in this grainy YouTube transfer, but they read "AACM 20," next to an image of a bassist -- Fred Hopkins? Anyone have the DVD? Anyone?
This makes sense, as the movie was filmed in 1985, when the city of Chicago would have been celebrating the AACM's 20th anniversary. So we have serendipity and location shooting to thank for the only mention of the Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians in a top-grossing Hollywood movie. (Of course I'm not counting the Anthony Braxton cameo, as a blackjack dealer, in Ocean's 12.)
No, I do not plan on discussing this with Roscoe Mitchell.
While we're on the subject of jazz commemoration, though, I should also note that tomorrow, Saturday, marks the 15th annual Jazz Journalists Association Jazz Awards. It's at City Winery, and I believe tickets are still available. In addition to the bestowing of awards, the event will feature performances by Randy Weston, Wallace Roney, Gregory Porter, Jane Bunnett and others. I'll be there. How about you?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? ...Bueller? ...Bueller?
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14ToeSide wrote:Looking forward to Flying my 12. It should have a lot of juice as the projected area is the same as a North Rebel 14.
14ToeSide wrote:I do. Just waitin for some wind. I will tell you the 19M Edge is NOW my fav kite of all time and I have had a bunch since 1999. The 19 is a Killer! Doesn't need App Wind so much. With me at 110/245 Pies it is Amazing!!
PMU is using his. If only he knew the Cronix pump was double action...Ted B wrote:hey PMU
you have an extra pump? I suddenly need 1 now... Thanks
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15 Vegetarian & Vegan Comfort Food Recipes
The Kitchn's archives are filled with deeply satisfying, and often very easy to make, vegetarian and vegan dishes. From hearty beans to soothing soups and creamy pasta, here are 15 of our favorite, meatless comfort foods.
• 1 Borlotti Beans in Tomato Sauce with Creamy Polenta - A hearty winter meal
• 2 Vegetarian Split Pea Soup with Grilled Cheese Croutons - Traditional flavor without the ham
• 3 Tomato and White Bean Panade - A filling stew thickened with bread
• 4 Slow-Cooker Black Bean Enchiladas - Soft and chewy with oozy cheese
• 5 Vegetarian Black Bean Espresso Chili - Finally, the perfect meatless chili recipe!
• 6 Very Simple Dal Palak - This recipe also freezes very well
• 7 Butternut Squash, Sage, and Parmesan Pasties - Buttery, savory, and sustaining
• 8 Quick and Easy Fried Rice - Quick to pull together and deeply satisfying
• 9 Brown Rice with Winter Squash and Cashews - Creamy, nutty, and totally vegan
• 10 Vegetarian Dduk Gook - A soothing Korean rice cake soup
• 11 Hot and Sour Mushroom, Cabbage, and Rice Soup - Pleasantly warm and filling
• 12 Nicole's Spinach Lasagna Roll Ups - An easy weeknight dinner
• 13 Pasta with Butternut Squash, Sage, and Pine Nuts - Rich and creamy
• 14 Vegetarian Phở - A restorative bowl of Vietnamese noodle soup
• 15 Paul's Uova In Purgatorio - Quick, rustic, and full of flavor
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Moberly's history
Monday, February 25, 1963
•Supt. Russell Allen said today that Westran schools will be closed tomorrow and Wednesday because of excessive absenteeism, mainly due to flu. Plans are to resume classes again Thursday. A total of 102 students were absent out of the total enrollment o 691.
•Snow fun: A group of students of Central Christian College of the Bible constructed a snow couple at the height of the snow storm that blanketed North Central Missouri Saturday. The snow couple was the brainchild of Bob Schofield and Gene Smith, both students of the college. The snowman is about 10 feet tall and the snow lady is about 8 feet tall. The eyes were made from potatoes dotted with red India ink. The mouths were fashioned from red crepe paper. The buttons on the gentleman are jar lids. He has a regular belt. His hat is fashioned from a garbage can lid and a pail. The snow lady has an apron made from two burlap sacks Her head scarf is made from two scarves that were found around the school. CCCB, 405 North Ault Street is in the background of the photo. Featured in the photo were Gene Smith, Kay Smith, Gregg Stout, Bobby Stout, Bob Schofield, Thelma Lollar and Keith Jackson.
•Mr and Mrs. Woodrow Dunlop, 905 West Reed, lost a five room frame home three miles northeast of Moberly by fire at noon Saturday. The home was completely furnished and ready for occupancy by renters. Mrs. Dunlop was at the house at the time of the fire doing some cleaning. By the time help arrived, the blaze had gained too much headway to save the house. The property was insured. The cause of the fire remains undetermined.
•Some of the workers at the Kiwanis Club Pancake Day program Saturday were waiting to get cakes from Waldo Littrell, presiding at the grill. Included with Littrell in the photo were Ward Hayden, Bruce Daniels, Dr. A.F. Rychnovsky, Roy Cunningham, Dr. A. Noel Rains, chairman of the program and Howard Hils.
Thursday, February 25, 1988
•A huge crowd attended the Highway 63 Coalition meeting in Moberly at the Peppermill. Seventy-five from various locations, including Centralia and Lancaster, were in attendance. During the meeting it was announced a series of hearings on proposed improvements to the Highway 63 corridor will be held by the Missouri State Highway Department.
Tuesday, February 25, 2003
•2003 Little Miss Moberly Mariah Dawn Searcy, granddaughter of Harold and Linda Searcy of Renick was crowned Saturday night. Her court consisted of third runner-up Kaitlyn Templeton, daughter of Brandy Chase, Moberly and Curtis Templeton, Germany; first runner-up Brianna Leigh Hunt, daughter of Timothy and Rhonda Hunt; second runner-up Alexia Nicole Crabtree, daughter of Bill and Jacki Crabtree, Moberly; and fourth runner-up Michelle Apel, daughter of Charlie and Robin Apel of Renick.
Monday, February 25, 2008
•Kelsey Sisco was named Miss Moberly 2008 and was featured in a photo on today's front page.
•Moberly Police Officer Michael Barrett and Chief Dennis Cupp showed off one of the video cameras that will be installed in police cars. The video system was purchased by the Missouri Coalition for Roadway Safety.
•The Higbee and Eastern and Southern Fire Districts responded to a fire early Monday morning at the home of Dennis and Jennifer Price located on Route A less than two miles west of Business 63.


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Guilty Pleasures: Superman III
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's our Scott McKenzie in shorts and tights...
Let me begin by stating an irrefutable fact: Superman III does not exist. It does not exist because the events contained in the movie were removed from the screen canon of Superman with the release of 2006's Superman Returns. Just as Highlander II was quickly removed from the memory of the general public with the release of subsequent sequels, the same was done for this movie and its partner in crime, Superman IV: The Quest For Peace. Any attempts to resurrect this fossil are futile for the sole reason that Superman III sucks and I'm going to tell you why.
Exhibit A: The funniest man in the world (in 1983)
I'll start at the beginning. Instead of flying through the depths of space with titles whizzing past the audience, we are introduced to the true intended star of Superman III: Richard Pryor (exhibit A). The Salkinds insisted on a comedy theme and roped in the biggest stand-up comedian of the time, but by doing so heaped far too much pressure on their new star, which did nothing for the emotional state of a man who was not well-known for his mental stability. They had already flexed their collective might by getting rid of Richard Donner from the first Superman sequel, and effectively cut Margot Kidder out of the second after she voiced her disgust at their actions.
Exhibit B: Superman or Charlie Chaplin?
Following the introduction of Gus Gorman, we're then treated to a rehearsed slapstick sequence (exhibit B) instead of the impressive credits we expect, nay deserve, from a Superman movie. Throughout the movie, the comedy is pitched far too broad, often venturing into spoof territory. In one particular montage that is nothing more than a collection of badly-written skits, the red and green men on a crossing signal start to fight each other. Surely only Superman and anything or anyone else from Krypton are supposed to be the supernatural elements in the stories, not any old nonsense that suits the writers for the sake of a cheap laugh? I mean, there's no way Gus Gorman could ski off the top of a building and land on the street below without a scratch, and when he does it makes a mockery of the peril Lois Lane finds herself in before she meets Superman in the first movie.
Of all the Superman movies, number three has aged the worst. The reason for this is its secondary theme: computers. Following his failed attempts to exist on state benefits, Gus Gorman somehow turns into a computer programming genius. The only problem with including computer technology in any movie is that it badly dates that movie. How could we believe that the Superman that returns to Earth after going looking for Krypton could have been gone for any less than twenty years if Superman III was to remain a credible inclusion in the series?
Exhibit C: Comb your hair, you naughty Superman!
My learned friend for the defence will no doubt dazzle you with tales of how Superman III is the movie with the darkest moments, that it was originally supposed to be called Superman vs. Superman. I'm willing to concede that the fight between Superman and his evil alter-ego is a refreshing twist, but in the same way that one spray of air freshener doesn't hold back a pungent smell, one decent scene doesn't stop Superman III stinking either. Even when he stops being a goody-goody, the filmmakers still milk it for cheap laughs, whether he's stopping the leaning tower of Pisa from leaning or blowing out the Olympic torch, and the only way they could think of making Christopher Reeve look evil was to make his suit a bit darker and ruffle his hair (exhibit C).
I will leave the ladies and gentlemen of the jury with a clip that shows them how the opening credits of Superman III could, nay should, have looked (exhibit D) and allow them to dream of what could have been if only the producers had decided to make a movie half as good as the first two entries in the series.
Exhibit D: What could have been
I'm afraid that my colleague for the prosecution could not be more wrong. I'll admit that Superman III is no classic by any means, but it is an adequate addition to the series and does not deserve to be excluded from the Superman canon. For starters, it is the first Superman movie that Christopher Reeve received top billing for and contains one of his strongest performances. In addition to playing the dual roles of Superman and Clark Kent, he is asked to play the third role of Evil Superman. Through his performance, we get to see his wide acting range that goes from slapstick comedy, sensitivity and heroism through to arrogance and self-doubt.
Exhibit E: Combine harvester rescue
Superman III also contains set-pieces so memorable that they cannot be removed from the minds of fans, no matter how much the prosecution pushes for a guilty verdict. Rescuing Ricky from certain death in the jaws of a combine harvester (exhibit E), being chased by missiles through the Grand Canyon, Gus Gorman embezzling half-cents and the junkyard fight are scenes that stick in the mind long after the credits have rolled. Lest we forget the moment where Vera Webster is caught in the supercomputer during the climactic scene and is turned into a half-human half-robot monster (exhibit F), which gave countless children nightmares throughout the 80s.
Exhibit F: Don't worry, it's only a movie
I'd like to reiterate the prosecution's point about how the filmmakers made Superman look evil. Yes, he is dressed in a dark suit with ruffled hair, but is that any different from the techniques used to make Peter Parker look evil in Spider-Man 3? I would therefore ask that if the jury are willing to find this movie guilty, they must also do the same for Sam Raimi's movie.
Prosecution: Objection!
Judge: Sustained, although the prosecution makes a good point.
Superman III is also notable because we get to see Clark Kent of the present day spend time in his home town of Smallville. The relationship he shares with Lana Lang is at the core of the movie and works well, and Annette O'Toole was a logical addition to the cast of the Smallville TV series. Yes, Lex Luthor is missing but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Even though Superman may be the greatest comic-book superhero, his selection of nemeses isn't as wide as Batman or Spider-Man and it's good to see him go up against someone else, even if it is Robert Vaughan and Mrs Billy Connolly.
I will leave the ladies and gentlemen of the jury with a clip that shows just how dark and compelling this movie is (exhibit G) and ask them to consider the following fact: at least it's not as bad as Superman IV!
Prosecution: Objection!
Judge: Sustained. The jury is instructed to disregard the defence's last comment. Superman III is the only movie on trial here. Superman IV was already found guilty a long time ago and has no relevance on this trial.
Exhibit G: Superman vs the bottle
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Words by Mr Sanjiv Bhattacharya
Standing on a rooftop on Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, the actor Mr Jake Johnson, 34, looks out over the hazy city and considers his options. "Here's what I'm thinking," he says. "I'll just stick with this TV show until the wheels fall off and start spending my summers in Hawaii," He laughs. "I've been talking to the wife about it!"
He's kidding but it might happen yet. The show he's talking about is New Girl, a hit comedy starring Ms Zooey Deschanel, which is about to head into its second season. Before it launched last year, few had heard of Mr Johnson. He was one of LA's many minor actors hustling their way into small roles here and there - there was a brief appearance on Curb Your Enthusiasm, then Get Him to the Greek and 21 Jump Street. But now, he's booking leads. He's one of the leads in a small but perfectly formed movie opening soon, Safety Not Guaranteed, about a man who places a classified ad asking for a companion for time travel.
And while all this is happening, complete strangers are stopping him in the street. They know him as Nick Miller, the sensitive, earnest character of Ms Deschanel's three male roommates.
"I'm the relatable one, the Everyman," he says, in his raspy Chicago accent. "I guess I'm like Nick in some ways. There are times when he can be a bit of a dick, and I can relate to that. But it's because he just hasn't grown into who he's going to be yet, and it's uncomfortable. I feel the same way."
Our house was the kind where if an uncle was going to jail and had to go to court, he stayed with us
Mr Johnson's self-effacing manner stems in part from his Midwestern roots - they raise them differently in Chicago - but also his circuitous and often humbling route to success. Raised by a single mother, he grew up in a colourful home in the suburbs. "Our house was the kind where if an uncle was going to jail and had to go to court, he stayed with us. We had an open door policy." His dream of writing fiction took him to college in Iowa and then to New York, where he put on plays by night and worked jobs by day. But New York is a tough city to crack.
"The acting thing wasn't working out and I kinda hit zero," he says. "I lost my construction job so I thought, if I'm going to be broke, it's better to be broke in Chicago where I don't have to pay rent."
So he moved back home. The plan was to return to New York once he was back on his feet, but a woman changed his mind. "I was pretty serious about this girl in New York, and then I heard she was seeing another guy. And I didn't want to go back and bump into her on the subway with her new boyfriend. So in rebellion I moved to LA. That was 2004. I thought I would act in LA, do plays up in San Francisco and Seattle, and eventually make my way back to Chicago."
He points at the palm trees and the orange sunset. "But once I got here, I never left."
Mr Johnson starring alongside Ms Zooey Deschanel in New Girl


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Two Missouri-based B-2 stealth bombers have carried a clear message from the U.S. to North Korean leaders.
Following weeks of North Korean bluster, the U.S. on Thursday took the unprecedented step of announcing that the nuclear-capable bombers joined joint military drills with South Korea, dropping dummy practice bombs on an island range.
The bombers made the 13,000-mile nonstop round trip from Whiteman Air Force Base near Knob Noster.
In a statement issued Thursday morning from Seoul, the 509th Bomb Wing at Whiteman and the U.S. Strategic Command said the mission demonstrates America's ability to conduct precision strikes "quickly and at will."
The North Koreans reacted late Thursday. The government-controlled Korean Central News Agency website said the B-2 mission "from Whiteman air force base in Missouri State ... proves the brigandish ambition of the U.S. imperialists for aggression."
It said the B-2 flights were an ultimatum that the U.S. "will ignite a nuclear war at any cost on the Korean Peninsula."
But a U.S. international security expert said the B-2 mission was a reminder to the North Koreans "that there are things we can do that they have no defense against."
Owen Coté Jr., associate director of the security studies program at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said the show-of-force B-2 mission sends the message that the U.S. alliance with South Korea "remains solid in both directions."
The $2.2 billion B-2, with its 40,000-pound capacity of nuclear or conventional bombs, is an especially effective weapon in North Korea, Coté said, because the B-2 is "absolutely immune" to North Korea's Vietnam-era radar defense system.
"North Korean radar is ubiquitous ... but it is not mobile," he said. "The B-2 knows where the radars are and it flies a path between them."
Twenty of the bombers are based at Whiteman, the only operational base for them since the Air Force first based them there in 1993, partly at the request of then Missouri congressman Ike Skelton.
Many aspects of the stealth bombers, which carry a crew of two, remain classified. But the planes use composite materials, special coatings and a flying-wing design to evade radar detection.
They have been used effectively in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.
Based on one estimated cost of about $10,000 per flight hour, the mission to South Korea probably cost taxpayers at least $260,000.
"The B-2 is a door opener," John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org told The Star last year. "It has the unique ability to fly unescorted into hostile airspace and blow up a lot of stuff — without us first having to take out the other guy's air defenses."
Coté agrees.
"The North Koreans, for whatever bizarre internal reasons, are deciding they have to whip up this crisis," Coté said.
The B-2 mission, he added, is a reminder that they have "no means of defense. This is the Americans and South Koreans saying they have a straightforward deterrent."
Coté said the B-2s can haul plenty of heavy ordnance.
"The thing about the B-2, besides its stealth," he said, "is that it can unleash by far the most powerful conventional weapons."
The bombers can carry high-impact bunker buster bombs that would convince most any leader, Coté said, that he can't "dig holes, cover them with concrete and feel as though he is protected."
The flights are likely to further enrage Pyongyang, which has already issued a flood of ominous statements to highlight displeasure over the drills and U.N. sanctions after its nuclear test last month.
North Korea sees the military drills as part of a U.S. plot to invade and becomes particularly upset about U.S. nuclear activities in the region. Washington and Seoul say the drills are routine and defensive.
North Korea has already threatened nuclear strikes on Washington and Seoul in recent weeks. It said Wednesday that there was no need for communication in a situation "where a war may break out at any moment." Earlier this month, it announced that it considers void the armistice that ended the Korean War in 1953.
Analysts see a full-blown North Korean attack as extremely unlikely, though there are fears of a more localized conflict, such as a naval skirmish in disputed Yellow Sea waters. Such naval clashes have happened three times since 1999.
North Korea's latest threats are seen as efforts to provoke the new government in Seoul, led by President Park Geun-hye, to change its policies toward Pyongyang. North Korea's moves at home to order troops into "combat readiness" also are seen as ways to build domestic unity as young leader Kim Jong Un, who took power after his father's death in December 2011, strengthens his military credentials.
Although North Korea has vowed nuclear strikes on the U.S., analysts outside the country have seen no proof that North Korean scientists have yet mastered the technology needed to build a nuclear warhead small enough to mount on a missile.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.