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2010-12-08 / Columnists
Pets, Pets, Pets
More Threads in the Baby lon/We stminster Web: Did the Great American Smoke Out originate in Babylon at the former Westminster Kennel Club (WKC)? A 1916 self-help guide to kicking nicotine addiction published by the tenant using Westminster's old property as a health retreat gives this question credibility. This book with a documented litany of tobacco dangers had the US Surgeon General's smoking warning beat by almost 50 years.
Tobacco Habit Easily Conquered: How to Do It Agreeably and Without Drugs is a 158 page manual written by Max MacLevy when he was living on the former Westminster grounds in Babylon overlooking Southards Pond. The volume contains a plan consisting of 20 simultaneous steps called "Dictums" which when followed religiously the author guarantees will free the smoker of that "Demon Nicotine."
Note the year is 1916. The book is geared to financially successful men who smoked. A chapter directed to women is added as an afterthought. Theauthor warns the reader to visualize his goal and stay the course -"You punished yourself by straining your will power alone, and in the end Tobacco punished you more by resuming his sway over you. Thatis the Alpha and Omega of almost every addict who fights the habit with the obsolete shrapnel of willpower alone, instead of the modern explosive shell of sane living, plus the specific Dictums here outlined."
These Dictums are a regimented blend of mind over matter and health tips such as deep breathing, personal hygiene and enough sleep. The most unusual Dictum is #3 -"Chew every mouthful or bite of solid or dry food 28 times before swallowing." All the Dictums are described as "Nature's Way", and the reader is directed to begin all of them but not cease tobacco (cold turkey) for at least two weeks. Each Dictum explanation reads like an old-fashioned infomercial and ends with the salutation "Selah!"-a Hebrew term used to finish psalms telling the reader to "stop and listen." (MacLevy whose real name was "Maxmilian Levy" was a founder of Temple Emmanuel in Lynbrook.)
Westminster Kennel Club built the Babylon compound but had no ties to MacLevy. Westminster had a sportsmen club and kennels housing 200 dogs here from 1880 until they sold the 64 acres in 1904. About a decade later the new owner leased the huge WKC clubhouse to vaudevillian, life guard and exercise guru- Max MacLevy- as his latest health farm. According to his 1934 obituary in the NY Times, MacLevy also had a gym at Madison Square Garden where Teddy Roosevelt had been a client. MacLevy and his son Monty patented exercise contraptions including rowing machines, stationary bikes and that belt shaker shown in cartoons. For more about MacLevy's controversial career, see "Pets" Beacon 6/26/08 online. MacLevy's bio reads like a combo Jack LaLanne, L. Ron Hubbard with a dash of Madoff.
MacLevy set up a series of health farms in Babylon. Previously, he rented Havemeyer Point and what would years hence become Bulk's Nursery in West Babylon. This health movement belonged to the physical culturist fad sweeping Babylon and the country. Smoke-enders was only one facet of MacLevy's therapies. Wealthy patients suffering from physical and mental ailments would pay for the privilege of chopping wood and laboring on his farm. Some of the privileged class resented doing menial chores, only to be "won over" once cured. Others remained disgruntled and sued him. MacLevy's family was living in the old WKC shooting house and his guests staying in the former WKC clubhouse when the whole complex burned down in October 1918.
Throughout his anti-tobacco book, MacLevy refers to the Westminster property as "The Farm." Dictum #4 is "to avoid foods and drinks that disagree with you." MacLevy says: "A visitor at The Farm suffered a serious throat distemper every time he ate nuts, so I stopped him." Dictum #17 is "to pacify an occasional false craving for tobacco, use a harmless substitute." He suggests chamomile tea, crystallized ginger, raw oysters with paprika and salt, and gum chewing which proved successful with soldiers during the Great War, but "at The Farm chocolate cigarettes are handed out to those who ask for them- and I frequently have to order a fresh supply."
The most amazing portion of the book is the footnoted medical statistics in the appendix. Keep in mind that the Surgeon General didn't vilify smoking until 1964. MacLevy's beliefs are ahead of his time. He laments that although "Education is the key to progress. Our nation spends three times more on tobacco than on our school system." When he calls tobacco a poison, he lists specific toxins in nicotine including the deadliest- prussic acid, the historical name for cyanide. With data available at the time, he supports various claims that tobacco
caused cancer, insanity, blindness, deafness, heart failure, hardening of the arteries, epilepsy and loss of memory. Some of these hazards are substantiated with modern findings, including Mac-Levy's warnings about secondhand smoke. MacLevy quotes a doctor stating: "Many an infant has been killed outright in the cradle by tobacco smoke with which a thoughtless father filled an unventilated room" to which he adds his own remark: "Thus, Demon Nictotine out-herods Herod in the slaughter of the innocents."
To think those prescient words were penned at the former Westminster Kennel Club righthere in Babylon. I can't get over the phrase "out-herods Herod" especially weeks before Christmas 2010.
For Adoption at Babylon Town Shelter (631- 643-9270) Lamar St. W. Babylon: Two tiny, frightened dogs are featured this week. "Blanco" #93652 is an older Chihuahua who in typical breed style takes some time to warm up to everyone while "Madison" #93724 is a timid female Jack Russell found in Amityville. She took a fancy to one volunteer but shies away from me, especially when I have that annoying camera. Both are in the Puppy Room.
Male: "Davy Bruno"#93520 personable Pit; "Steve" #93710 Town Hall Shepherd; "JJ' #93725-Dachshund.
Female: "Lydia" #93376 precious Pit; small Shepherd #93691 found with male in Deer Park; "Charlotte" lobby calico.
• Reminder…Reading of Dickens' A Christmas Carol Sat. Dec. 11 at 4 pm to benefit Last Hope Animal Rescue at St. John's Church, Prospect St. Huntington.
• Sad Sign of the Times….Note on doggy clean up bag dispenser at Gardiner Park: "Our funds are low. Please bring your own bags."


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Installing a Volant CAI kit on a 2007 Ford F150 5.4L
Installing a Volant CAI kit on a 2007 Ford F150 5.4L
When Volant found out about Ford-Trucks.com new project truck a 2007 FORD F150 they were very anxious to send us an intake kit for us to install, the results are fantastic!
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Step 1. The directions tell us to disconnect the battery.
Step 2. Disconnect the crankcase breather hose from the intake and from the engine fitting, and remove from the vehicle.
Step 3. Unclip the red tab and unplug the mass flow sensor
Step 4. Unscrew and remove the bolt that is located on the middle of the stock intake, once the bolts are removed the stock intake removes quite easily.
Step 5. Completely remove the bracket that held the stock intake in place.
Editor's note: anybody need a stock intake? .contact FTE Jason
Step 6 & 7. You will see me removing the 4, 6mm bolts located at the sides of the stock filter box.
Step 8. Remove the mass flow sensor with the Torx wrench.
This image shows the engine with the stock intake removed.
Step 9. Reinstall the sensor in the Volant air duct using the same screws and the new sensor gasket.
Step 10. Apply the trim sponge onto the large round opening on the Volant filter box. Install the Volant Filter box on the driver's side where the stock unit pulls its air.
Step 11. The directions recommend attaching the filter inside the Volant.
Step 12. Here the directions state you should slip the Volant sleeve on the end of the Volant duct closest to the mass air flow sensor, using the clamps to secure the sleeve on the duct and place another clamp on the other end of the sleeve. Instead of going with Step 11 as listed in the directions we instead skipped ahead to give us more flexibility when we installed the intake.
This image shows the sleeve installed on the throttle body and one clamp securely tightened. By doing this backwards or out of order you give yourself more leeway as the Volant is a tight fit that you need to wiggle a bit into place.
Step 13, 14, 15. Another perk to doing it backwards if you will is that you can loosen the filter box so the intake fits snugly into place. Install the "hump hose" on the filter box and clamp it, and leave the other one loose. Once we had the intake in place we tightened up all the clamps.
Install the filter into the box and tighten the clamp.
Reconnect the mass flow sensor and connect the hose provided to the Volant duct and the other end to the engine crank breather hose fitting.
The finished install:
Step 16. Reconnect the battery cable.
Overall my experience with the Volant was that from the moment we installed one on the project truck (Roush F150) I just fell in love with the intake and the exhaust. The sound it makes when I hit the gas, the deep whoomph along with the giddy up I get from this intake has me super excited to install the exhaust and scoop to really complete the total package.
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Bill O'Reilly delivered one of his more bizarre and counter-factual diatribes on his TV show about the Obama drone strike program, claiming that NBC is not covering the story — unlike Bush and torture, which they covered in great detail, he claims. Speaking with Bob Beckel on his show, he said this:
"Remember the outcry over waterboarding? You know, everybody jumping up and down? NBC News, I thought they were going to, like, melt down over there. You heard anything on NBC about the drones?"…
"So you haven't heard anything over about this, and neither have I. Neither has my staff. Okay? So we haven't heard anything. But we heard a lot about waterboarding, but nothing about drone strikes. How do you process that?"
Beckel, whose spine has been removed in order to keep cashing Fox News checks, doesn't bother to point out one little obvious fact: The entire story of the drone strike memo was broken by Michael Isikoff of NBC News, and it was done on the Rachel Maddow show. Maddow has reported on the drone strikes many times over the years. Nothing goes in, stupid comes out — I can explain that.


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RVs Give Hope to Victims of Housing Crash
January 13, 2011 by RVBusiness · Comments Off on RVs Give Hope to Victims of Housing Crash
Editor's Note: Outdoors Writer Tom Stienstra filed this story for the San Francisco Chronicle.
For some, the vagabond life in an RV is the last way to live free.
You turn the key and away you go. Just by parking, you can create your own coastal villa, lakeshore cottage or mountain retreat.
You can roam wherever you want, stay at a spot overnight or for days, and venture off on daily adventures.
Suddenly, you are off the grid, beholden to no one. This might feel like perfection for those who subscribe to the philosophy of Billy Joe Shaver, the old Texas songwriter, "Moving is the closest thing to being free."
In the era of Wi-Fi for computers, satellite TV and radio, and do-it-all cell phones, you do not have to sacrifice being connected.
RV sales, particularly sales of used trailers and fifth-wheels, are strong this winter, according to several dealers and the Recreation Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA). The new, high-priced 2011 models are getting a second look this week by customers at the Pleasanton RV and boat show at the Alameda County Fairgrounds.
One reason for the RV surge is the widespread collapse of California's housing market that has people looking for a way out. An RV can provide it.
In my travels, I've run into several people who have bailed on the American Dream of owning a home and refinancing against their equity to buy plenty of goodies (and then in the past year, watched as others saw their home value fall below what is owed). They bought RVs.
"No more house payments, no more property tax," said Peter Borgards, who decided to buy new, not used, symbolic of a new start. "I got rid of my house and bought a fifth-wheel. Best thing I ever did. The pressure is off. I love the thing."
Simpler can be better
An RV doesn't have to resemble a rock-star tour bus. It can be as simple as a shell on a pickup truck, where you stash an inflatable bed in the back and throw a kayak or canoe on top, your fishing gear behind a seat and a mountain bike on a bumper rack.
It can range from a little pop-up camping trailer to a typical 26-footer, or extend to a Class A motorhome. There are also van conversions, fifth-wheels, overhead campers and countless variations of trailers. Some have multiple slide-outs and awnings to expand the living space, inside and out.
RVs of all styles are great for the outdoors because many RV parks and campgrounds are at beautiful destinations within walking distance of adventures.
Instead of paying a fortune to buy an oceanfront cottage, park at San Francisco RV Resort in Pacifica or at Half Moon Bay State Beach, then walk the beach, play golf, or, in Half Moon Bay, ride your bike on the Coastal Trail.
Drive up Highway 1 to Gualala on the Sonoma Coast and stay at pretty Anchor Bay Campground, or any one of another dozen sites on the way. Head south to Big Sur, and venture beyond to San Simeon, Pismo Beach … or just keep going to Arizona and the Mogollon Rim. You could even end up in Luckenbach, Texas, where you actually might run into Shaver himself, sitting against an oak tree, drinking a Lone Star.
Buying used
Good deals can be had right now. Tracking sales and auctions, I've found that top-quality used RVs with little wear are often available at low prices, providing you know value and work the Internet to find bargains.
There are three reasons: 1. Some seniors buy a new RV and find their health does not allow them to use it, so they sell cheap; 2. People find the lifestyle is not for them, so they sell cheap; 3. People like the RV life so much that they are eager to upgrade, so they sell cheap. The common thread is "they sell cheap."
The best prices are often for used, mid-size trailers, usually 22- to 30-footers. These include a bedroom, kitchen, dining area, couch and small bathroom in three separate rooms.


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For the second year in a row, Our Sunday Visitor has chosen a group of exemplary Catholics to highlight and honor due to their tireless work for the Church this calendar year and beyond. In particular, these leaders in the Faith were selected for their work with some of the most dominant issues facing the Church today, including the Affordable Care Act and the corresponding HHS Mandate, the Church's work with the New Evangelization and the ongoing fights for both life and traditional marriage. We hope the short profiles that follow will both inspire and encourage all Catholics to more effectively live out their faith in their day-to-day lives.
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan, past-president of the USCCB
Monica Fitzgibbons, co-founder of De Montfort Music
Pope Francis, first Jesuit, Latin American pontiff — and the man
behind the "Francis Effect"
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, first pope to resign from the office since Pope Gregory XII in 1415
Curtis Martin, founder of the Fellowship of Catholic University
Students, a prominent New Evangelization effort
Mother Delores Hart, O.S.B., former actress-turned-abbess, and now popular author
Dr. Jennifer Morse, Founder of the pro-marriage Ruth Institute
Father Tom Rosica, CEO of Salt & Light TV and invaluable communications assistant during papal transition
Bernadette Smyth, Irish pro-life activist
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Sesame Street "Hansel & Gretel's Playdate with Big Bird" Hansel and Gretel come to Sesame Street for a play date with Big Bird. As they walk to Big Bird's nest, Hansel realizes that he's not sure how to get back to the subway station afterwards. Gretel agrees and thinks they should leave a trail, so they leave a trail of cookie crumbs. D
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Dinosaur Train "Laura The Giganotosaurus/Dinosaur Poop!" Laura the Giganotosaurus - Buddy spends time with Laura Giganotosaurus, a large dinosaur who always rides the Dinosaur Train and, like Buddy, is a three-toed theropod! Buddy also discovers that Laura is an avid bird-watcher. Dinosaur Poop! - Buddy and Tiny learn that all creatures poop, even really big dinosaurs. D
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Sara's Weeknight Meals "Salad: It's Easy Being Green" Versatile, easy-to-make salads will please even the hungriest eater the way Sara does it, with enough protein to stick to your ribs and a huge supporting cast of vegetables. Think about Warm Steakhouse Salad with Blue Cheese Dressing - it's so rich and filling you'll forget it's a salad. Crunchy Falafel Salad with Creamy Garlic Dressing will give vegetarians something to shout about. D
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Rick Steves' Europe "Iran:Tehran and Side Trips" Rick visits Tehran and a small village for a look at some of civilization's important historical sites and a sense of Iran's 21st-century culture.G
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Song of the Mountains Jimmy Fortune. D
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Ladies of Letters Irene is in prison. The police raids Vera's house and she ends up on the same prison ship as Irene. The two soon become the life and soul of the community.G
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My Hero "Big Brother" Janet is fuming when she discovers that George has been secretly filming her for the Ultronian reality show Thermowatch. With a camera in his right eye, George does not notice when the producers turn the tables on him.G
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Are You Being Served? "Heir Apparent" An old photograph convinces Mr. Grace he is closely related to Mr. Humphries.G
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As Time Goes By "The Anniversary Party" Lionel's proposal to Jean is accepted. But now Judy is barely on speaking terms with Alistair; Sandy has walked out on her boyfriend; and Stephen's plans for a surprise anniversary party for Penny go hopelessly wrong.G


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NWSB Insider and Portland Timbers blogger Blair Thomas reports on the matchup Saturday between the Galaxy and the Timbers. Blair points out first, Portland has only gained the upper-hand once in five matches this season and as evidenced by their defensive efforts, the team needs all of the momentum they can muster early in a match in order to survive at the end of one.
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Janice Taylor, Weight Loss Success Coach and host of the Our Lady of Weight Loss blog, gets it! We know that Extreme Food Diets are unhealthy, unsustainable and unrealistic, yet the desire for a quick and easy fix that eliminates weighing, measuring and thinking is strong, very strong! "When we hear about the next greatest fat-melting extreme food diet, we wonder, "could this be THE answer?" Before you jump on the next Extreme Food Diet bandwagon, think it through. Make an informed decision. Here, Janice shares the good, the bad and the gassy from five of the more popular Extreme Food Diets.


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SANDY, Utah — Nothing defines Fabian Johnson better than versatility.
It is one reason why the German-American was such a coveted addition to the U.S. national team in 2011. Johnson can shift between midfield and left back with ease. No matter where he plays on the field, he takes to the position like it is his natural one.
"It's not tough," Johnson said. "It's just a different role that I have to play. I've played it a lot of times, so it won't make any difference to the team or to me."
Johnson's versatility could be valuable once again when the United States takes on Honduras in a 2014 World Cup qualifying match tonight at the home of Real Salt Lake of MLS. Honduras is the only team to beat the Americans in their hexagonal group this year and will certainly give them a stiff challenge in the rematch.
The United States leads the group with 10 points off three wins, a draw and the loss at Honduras. The Hondurans are fourth with seven points.
U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann has not said who will start or where, but Johnson is expected to drop into the backfield from midfield, where he played against Panama. The juggling comes out of necessity to fill the hole left by DaMarcus Beasley this week. Beasley will be unavailable while serving a one-game suspension for yellow card accumulation.
For Johnson, it is no big deal to switch. Left back is his club position, so it will be like slipping on a familiar pair of pants.
"I'm used to left back," Johnson said. "I played the whole season there with Hoffenheim. It wouldn't be a [big] difference to me if I were to start there or the midfield. I just try to do my best at every position I play."
Moving Johnson is not the only anticipated change. Graham Zusi and Jermaine Jones are expected to return to the starting lineup after both players missed the 2-0 victory over Panama last week.
Still, taking Johnson out of midfield is a tough call. He has been a steadying force in the middle for the U.S. during the qualifying matches. And his defensive aggressiveness will be an asset against a formidable Honduras midfield.
Johnson is adaptable enough to make life equally tough from the left back position. His willingness to tackle any role makes everything easier for the entire back line and goalkeeper Tim Howard to do their jobs.
"Versatility is good," Howard said. "Sometimes, it can be a curse as well in terms of not being able to solidify a position. Our guys seem to do it. Just being natural athletes back there leads to that versatility."
Klinsmann repeatedly singled out Johnson on Monday as an example of the mentality he wants in his players. His willingness to accept and understand his role, then flourish in it, is a quality Klinsmann sees as a key to success.
"Every coach see qualities and strengths in players differently," Klinsmann said. "At the end of the day, a coach is always working on a bigger picture and puzzle, how to fit all the elements together. How do they supplement each other? How do they help each other? What is their specific role?"
With players such as Johnson being able to contribute from a multitude of spots, figuring out the best lineup for each match suddenly becomes much easier.
"If Fabian Johnson can play very effectively at left back or left winger, he can also play in the middle," Klinsmann said. "We need to figure out what is best for this group. How do they mesh the best? How do we get the best out of them as an entire unit?
The answers are pretty simple when Johnson applies them to himself. He possesses a simple goal of making the right plays at the right times in every match.
"Trying to do everything right is hard to do," Johnson said. "But I try to give my best and help the team in every minute of the game."NEXT GAME
U.S. vs. Honduras
WHEN: Today, 5:30 p.m.
WHERE: Rio Tinto Stadium, Sandy, Utah


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|2011-10-05, 01:30
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Chihayafuru 1
Chihayafuru was my pre-season pick as the standout show, and I think that the first episode did a good job in supporting that view. It had a solid combination of good characterization and direction that entices the audience and forms a firm foundation that the rest of the show is going to rest on. I wish that more shows would understand this concept.
I'm unfamiliar with the manga, so I wasn't sure if Chihayafuru was going to be more of a sports anime or if it was going to be more of a relationship show. Given the ending of the episode, I think that it's pretty clear that it's goin to be the former. The loving way the Kurata play was animated brings Hikaru no Go to mind where we see how much passion and intensity is infused into the game. This intensity is likely to be the focal point of the show even though the relationships are going to play a large role.
On a side note, I want to commend Terasaki Yuka's job at voicing the young Arata. Normally, I don't like that accent, but she made it sound pretty good.
|2011-10-05, 02:05
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For those interested in rules of the game, I wrote a blog post about it.
CR sub review and some TL notes too.
|2011-10-05, 02:16
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I definitely get the sense that the relationships will be at least as important as the Karuta with this series. Certainly, romance will be a much bigger factor - not that it would be hard - than it was with HnG.
|2011-10-05, 02:20
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Really great opening episode. Second best of the season behind Fate/Zero.
Good to know that Nana's director didn't fail me. It seems like Madhouse is back in action as well. Ad din some appealing visuals and character designs and the fact that this is a Josei manga adaption and I'm loving it already .
|2011-10-05, 04:08
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What the hell? That was actually really good. Decent visuals (not a biggest fan of those character designs), excellent and timely of music, good directing, and a story that manages to be charming and not insulting. The main draw thus far is the lead who's energetic, honest, and all around likable with a firey passion kinda thing but not so obnoxiously over the top she's shoved in our faces-- she seriously reminds me of Ohana from Hana Saku Iroha, which is a good thing.
|2011-10-05, 09:31
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Monarch of Rughzenhaide
Very good opening episode. Good mix of slice of life, romance, drama, comedy and "game" elements. Heard the manga is a award winner of a source material too (Won the Kodansha Award for Shojo in 2011). Very likable female lead character too - strong, energetic, outgoing and motivated.
9/10 and very much looking forward to future eps.
|2011-10-05, 09:53
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Didn't know much about this anime other than the fact it was anticipated by some...seems nice enough I guess.
The accurate, eyelash-heavy art style is to my liking. Chihaya is an interesting character from what I've seen, the type that sticks to her own reasoning instead of mimicking what the environment preaches. I liked how she stood up for the unadapted transfer student; two oddballs pursuing their dream, albeit a rather silly one, is a notion I'm rather fond of and support, possibly because I can relate to that.
So uh, yeah, I'll keep watching this for sure. And the ED sounded nice, though I have yet to hear it a few more times before I can be sure of it.
|2011-10-05, 09:56
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Excellent first episode. For overall entertainment value, it's probably my favorite first episode of the season thus far. I've seen more intellectually intense first episodes this season, and more heartwarming first episodes this season, but this is the Fall 2011 anime premiere episode that ties it altogether in such a wonderful total package.
Lovely artwork and nice animation. Very likable female lead. Yes, I do see the Ohana comparisons, although I think Chihaya has the potential to be the more well-rounded of the two. Chihaya feels like a real person to me, like she could be a character arising out of any entertainment medium, not just anime or manga.
This first episode also did a great job of both conveying what this anime would be about, while also actually showcasing a fair bit of that in the opening episode. Given what some first episodes this season have been like, I honestly find this pretty refreshing.
The three main characters of Chihaya, Arata, and Taichi were all given pretty good introductions, establishing upfront some of the strengths and weaknesses of each.
Even though it was only a small part of this opening episode, I also really liked how it briefly explored the topic of bullying. I've seen a couple anime shows explore it before, and the bullying in this one felt the most real of the three, imo.
Now, with this in mind, I think I know why Taichi started to nastily bully Arata in this episode. I'm certainly not defending it, but I think Taichi was afraid that Chihaya would end up getting bullied by association if she grew too close to Arata, so he wanted to forcibly separate the two. So I think his act arose out of a desire to protect Chihaya, but the act itself was of course very wrong and mean-spirited.
I also liked how the bully victim here was a transfer student, as transfer students are almost always gushed over by their new classmates in anime. Sad to say, but I think that what we saw in this first episode is probably at least as common in real life as such gushing is, if not more common. It's not always easy for a new person to fit into an established social dynamic, such as what you have in most classrooms. And if that new person doesn't fit in within a week or two, ostracization often does occur.
My only real concern about this anime going forward is the game itself. If the anime gets very technical and strategic with it, I could see that losing me a bit, as it's not a game I'm familiar with at all. But then, I enjoyed Saki a lot in spite of a low familiarity with mahjong, so hopefully much the same will happen here.
All-in-all, a great first episode. I as well will give it 9/10.
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Now I do have to wonder if Hosoya Yoshimasa can pull Arata off that well... but I'm fairly optimistic in that regard.
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|2011-10-05, 10:48
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But yeah, the slice of life material is definitely top notch in this show, and I hope that will be focused on a lot through out the anime.
|2011-10-05, 10:58
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One thing that makes me believe this won't be boring is that one of the main characters, Taichi, has already admitted that he has grown out of it (or something, correct me if I'm wrong), and the fact that it's openly stated (by Arata) that the game isn't all that popular. Thus this'll probably be more about rediscovering what's fun about the game, reminiscing the childhood days, bringing back some of those memories that might fill the gap in the characters' lives etc.
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|2011-10-05, 12:16
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I'm not sure what you mean by "slice of life material" with the only slice of life scene being the one where Chihaya was lying down with her headphones.
Arata stated that Karuta wasn't as popular in Tokyo as it was in Fukui. It's decently popular throughout Japan with organized tournaments and ritual outfits and everything. Heck, there's even a Haruhi Karuta deck.
Arata already let us know that his dream was to become the Karuta Meijin (a title that Hikaru no Go fans should be familiar with!), so that sets the context for the show. I'd be surprised if it doesn't become Chihaya's dream as well. For Taichi, the setup is fairly straightforward: he's moved away from Karuta because he's drifted away from Chihaya. The show is going to be about him trying to win her back, so he's going to go back to compete in the sport.
|2011-10-05, 13:24
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It's jealousy. Pure and simple.
|2011-10-05, 13:56
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Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....
Otoh after re-watching the ep last night I must admit I felt kinda sorry for Taichi ... Chihaya is pretty tactless (something she herself admits via the "I say whatever comes into my head" statement) and also really absorbed atm in Karuta - for example when she found out Taichi had a girlfriend her main complaint voiced was that Taichi could not keep all his attention on Karata. Seemed to me Taichi was hurt by that as he had feelings for Chihaya but Chihaya was unaware of them ... perhaps a pattern all the way back to when they were students....
|2011-10-05, 13:59
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I think folks are being too hard on Taichi. I certainly saw it as simple jealousy - partly over the "Golden Boy" status but mostly because he didn't like another boy getting close to Chihaya. These kids were what, 11 or 12? He was immature and he acted cruelly, but that doesn't make him a bad person. He's just a person who did a bad thing.
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Category Tags
I noticed that there are already some pages in Category:San Andreas Missions... is that the tag I should be using? --GuildKnightTalk2me 21:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is a bit of a mess with categories, as both the sets from GTW and the old gta.wikia.com are in here. The categories you should use for most things are "Category:Somethings in GTA San Andreas", eg Category:Radio Stations in GTA III. Category:Characters in GTA Vice City, Category:Missions in GTA San Andreas, Category:Vehicles in GTA IV - all other categories with the same purpose (eg Category:SAVehicles) should be deleted (with all the contents copied across to the proper category) - this is the same structure as page names (Missions in GTA San Andreas). Also, {{prod}} is the "Propose Deletion" template. Gboyers (?) 08:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. That's what I'd started using, but got a little confusion. Oh, and thanks for the prod tag. --GuildKnightTalk2me 19:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Some of the stuff on the portal needs updating, like mentions of the merge :) I have a stock CP page which I will post on User:Kirkburn/Dev which you may wish to take some stuff from. Lots of useful links! Kirkburn (talk) 16:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Okay posted it on User:Kirkburn/Dev - some of the links you already cover, but I would especially recommend adding the link lists at the end. Kirkburn (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I've merged in the changes and moved the page back to the "normal" location. Kirkburn (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikia Gaming IRC channel
Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!
You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, #wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net, where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from http://irc.wikia.com/gaming.
Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me! Kirkburn (talk) 21:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Profile tools
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Social tools codebase merge
As you may have noticed, the wikis with social tools are not on the same codebase as other wikis - we are planning to merge them very soon, so you can have the benefits of all the current code updates on Wikia, plus the latest version of MediaWiki. We plan to do this next week at the earliest (23rd June onwards). Regarding the skin changes, this is also likely to be the moment when you switch to Monaco 3.1 and get the new main page tags.
The update may affect the functionality of the social tools, but we are hoping to make sure everything runs smoothly. Thanks! Kirkburn (talk) 11:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Style Guide
I've been working on a page I intend to place at GTA Wiki:Style Guide. I think I've got it to the point that I'm ready for it to be moved... I just wanted to get a few people to take a look at it first, let me know if there's anything I overlooked. It's on User:GuildKnight/Sandbox/2|my sandbox 2; discussions on the talk page, please. Thanks in advance, --GuildKnightTalk2me 19:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- There are no arguments voiced, so I'm going to go ahead and move it. Any further conversation regarding the new Style Guide should take place on its talk page. --GuildKnightTalk2me 22:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Standardized vehicle article layout
As I've been working on the vehicle articles in an attempt to tidy them up, I've gradually developed a consistent layout that I've been applying to them. The problem is, nothing is accepted as standard and everyone has their own ideas of how things should be done, so if I run through a list of articles that need improving and apply my ideas to them, by the time I'm finished half of them have been changed yet again, my edits have been reverted without explanation, or something. The bottom line is it's impossible to maintain consistency without some kind of established style guidelines for each type of article, and I think it's time that was rectified.
So I've put together an example of how I think a vehicle article should be laid out, with an in-depth explanation of my thinking behind it on the associated talk page. Please take a look and give your opinion on it, and hopefully we can agree on a standardized design for vehicle articles, preventing disagreements. --MattyDienhoff 19:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- That layout would work well. I agree that there needs to be a standard... every GTA IV vehicle page I come across is either poorly worded, redundant, disorganized, or just a stub. Thevictor390 17:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi all, a quick note for Bureaucrats on a change made today. Instead of the specific special pages for making admins, giving rollback etc. please use Special:UserRights. This now allows you to set the following rights:
- Add bureaucrat
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Please let me know if there are any problems or if you don't feel this is the right selection of rights for this wiki. Thanks -- sannse (talk) 09:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Vehicle page consistency: Defining 'Variants'
I've got a lot to say, and I've spent a lot of time thinking it through so please, hear me out.
In all past GTA games, there have been only minor variations within the confines of each vehicle model (pickup trucks might come with different cargo in the back, for example, and convertibles would come with or without a soft top, etc). Therefore, when writing vehicle articles in the past (for those games), I'd consider a variant of a vehicle to be another vehicle that's clearly based on the vehicle I'm writing about (Example: the Taxi is a variant of the Premier in GTA:SA). The problem is, GTA IV introduces a large number of 'special' versions of vehicles that are quite different to their respective stock models, and are sometimes even badged differently with appendixes like 'GT' or 'XS', but go under the same in-game names as the original models regardless.
To draw a contrast; In GTA VC, as we all know, there were two Sentinels, the stock Sentinel, and the souped up Sentinel XS. Those are clearly defined as two seperate vehicles, yet in GTA IV both variants also appear, but under the same name, Sentinel. Simiarily, in the earlier games unique gang-driven variants of existing vehicles would have a seperate name. In GTA SA this was irrelevant because gangs didn't drive unique cars, but that's not the case in GTA IV. Gangs drive unique vehicles, but they're uniformly referred to the same names as their stock equivalents (Examples of unique gang vehicles are the Mafiya Schafter, the Mafiya Rebla, the Irish Mob Contender, and the Spanish Lords Primo and Cavalcade).
Okay, so what am I actually getting at? I'm trying to figure out how to distinguish between 'variants' as in other vehicles based on this one and 'variants' as in different versions of this vehicle, and I can't think of anything, so I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. --MattyDienhoff 17:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Make vehicle pages game specific?
While I'm at it, a similar subject I've been thinking about recently is this; in the case of vehicles that appear in multiple games, would it be worth splitting those articles into different ones for each game? Or, alternatively, split such an article into one for each significantly different rendition of the vehicle? (Like Perennial (GTA III Era) and Perennial (GTA IV)?) My train of thought here is that:
A: Of the vehicles have been featured in almost every game in the series so far, most have changed at least a bit and some have changed a lot in recent times (The Perennial and the Manana are two classic examples that have changed a lot in GTA IV, and the Emperor is a more recent one - the Emperor went from being a modern sedan to a 1970s Cadillac clone) and it's becoming very difficult to keep tabs of what each version of each vehicle looks like and how it works in each game without making the article confusing and contradictory.
B: This is also an issue with the other points of data, like car modifications (SA) and manufacturer (IV). Things like these are only applicable to one of the many appearances of those vehicles, so each article gradually becomes a mixed up collection of facts that all apply to different games, with the parts discussing the appearance and handling of each rendition of the vehicle coming to resemble something of a changelog.
Then there's things like 'variants' which I discussed above. Since designs are always changing, the relationships between different vehicles varies wildly between games. For example, in GTA IV the Ambulance is related to the Burrito as the front bears a striking similarity and it's manufactured by the same company, but these two vehicles bear no such relation in any of the earlier games. Similarily, in GTA III the Rumpo referred to an ordinary van that looked a lot like the Burrito, while the Pony was a tall roofed van. From Vice City onward, the tall roofed van formerly called the Pony was renamed Rumpo, a new van similar to the tall roofed van was created named the Pony, and the Burrito was created, looking a lot like the former Rumpo. Try explaining that away all in one article and you've got yourself a problem.
This might seem unnecessary at first glance, but some pages are getting very complicated and awkward detailing all of the differences, so I think we should at least consider splitting them. Thoughts? --MattyDienhoff 17:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- I can understand your frustration with some pages getting long and complex. For most articles splitting things into clearly-defined subsections is enough. Use
<br clear="both" />to force a new line before each section, which keeps images and text together properly. Here you just outline the differences for each game, and you can say what they resemble and add an image, and it all stays togehter. The advantage of this is that everything is in the same place, and if there is anything common between more than one game, it can go at the top. Also this helps every page stay the same, rather thaan having some pages split, some not, some long pages, some very short pages etc. However, I appreciate that some pages may be too long even for this process.
- The current (unwritten) policy on that is to split it into subpages (like /walkthrough on missions) - you could do that for a lot of details about the same vehicle, such as Ambulance/handling. If a vehicle is totally different inbetween eras, such as the Police Car or Bus, then I wouldn't have a problem moving the less-important one to another page, such as Police Car in GTA 2. However I don't think we should do this by standard, certainly not for every page. There would be far too much repeated content, and that is hard to update (as most people would only edit one of them, not every copy). And people would get mixed up and link to the wrong one etc.
- So try and use the first method wherever possible (see Comet or Moonbeam for half-examples). If you aren't sure what I mean, show me a page you think needs splitting the most (where there are lots of differences), and I'll edit that as an example. When we need to split stuff into pages, then we can, but we HAVE to maintain links between them all at all times, which is more important than an easy-to-read or massively detailed page. Hope that all makes sense - Gboyers talk 19:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Game Pages
As I've been wandering around the wiki, I've noticed that some of the game pages are rather messy and unorganized. Following the examples set by Grand Theft Auto IV and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, I've rewritten a few in my sandboxes:
- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
- Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
- Grand Theft Auto III
You'll notice, in the "Game Information" sections, that most are links to "Things in GTA #". The ones linked to subpages of the main article are articles about the game itself, not about playing the game. These are subjects that would normally be on the main article, but due to size and ease of use considerations have been split from the main article.
So... Love it, hate it? --GuildKnightTalk2me 20:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Login Time
Is there any way at all to show if a user (particularly staff and friends) is online/logged on? So that if you want to ask them something, and you need an urgent answer, you would get an answer right away. Just suggesting. Masterpogihaha 10:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Check Recent Edits and see if they've been editing. Staff are easier to locate because of the colour, as for friends, just read the names. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 10:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I, Gstancourt accidentally rejected two friend requests when I meant to accept them. Please resend your requests.
Just to clarify the situation on adverts. If you are logged in, you will ONLY see adverts on the Main Page. If you are not logged in, you will see adverts on other pages. If you don't have an account, just register! Gboyers talk 02:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Is it allowed to talk about hiding the adverts from view?--SpaceeinsteinTalk 04:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Bot Flag
Just to inform that the bot flag has been applied for User:Wikia, which is only used for the automatic welcome messages when someone joins the wiki. This will hide the edits from Special:RecentChanges, but this only applies to that user's edits from today onwards (previous edits are still visible as normal). If you want to be able to see these, just click "show bots" on Recent Changes, or look at that user's contributions. Gboyers talk 18:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Staff Promotions
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Copying of WikiGTA
I have noticed that some of your users is copying images of WikiGTA.nl. The moderator GTA4PC for example; Katana vc.png, Knife sa.png, Sawn-off.png, Silenced sa.png, Machete.png, Tec9LCS.JPG, etc. I have renderd them, so I can say, I've even took the screenshot used for the Machete. Which is really hard, since it has no spawnpoint. Even when they have a logo on them, he uses them. But instead of the hole image, he just cuts a piece out of it; Our version, GTA4PC's cutout. Hell, almost all images of your Beach Patrol are ours; Our page vs. yours. But wait, by the rewards you get linked to Sunshine Autos.. But wait again, your picture of the Vice City Stories version.. Where do I have seen that before? Ohyeah; here. This one has been stolen by Mcanmoocanu. Who has also stole a lot. Look for example on the Characters in GTA Liberty City Stories page, and our page; Characters (GTA Liberty City Stories). I can live with one image, but this is just insane! --ASPHALT 12:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. Category:Screenshots of GTA games are copyright to Rockstar Games, not the person who saved the screenshot. Using those screenshots on this wiki qualifies as Fair Use, regardless of who took them. It is not possible to simply re-copyright a screenshot and claim owenership. To this end, we are happy for our users to use existing screenshots on this wiki. However, where there has been significant artistic alteration to the screenshot, then we would usually not allow that to be copied here without permission. This could include labelling maps, or collaging several images together. On top of this, we have a specific agreement with the German GTA Wikia which means we can share all our images. If any of the images you link to don't qualify as fair use, and WikiGTA owns the copyright, and permission is refused (from staff) to use them, then I can ensure they are removed. I hope this makes sense, but let me know if you have any questions. Gboyers talk 18:08, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Dialog scripts in mission articles
Every one of them seems to have one, but I find it absurd that some of them overshadow the actual content of articles, as I have seen in Keep Your Friends Close, Riot, End of the Line, The Sicilian Gambit and Last Stand. When a typical reader looks up the articles, they are more likely to want information on the missions themselves rather than the things characters talk about. Would it be sensible to separate the scripts into a "(article name)/Script" section? - ZS 17:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree entirely. I try to get people to put the dialogue into a "Transcript" subpage, and just link to it (not transclude the subpage). For missions with only a small amount of dialogue (under 10 lines) then it doesn't take up too much space. However longer than that should definitely always be in a subpage. Perhaps there could be a {{transcript}} which links to the subpage in a consistent and noticable fashion? Gboyers talk 18:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good, although I was thinking about using {{main}} instead. I'm also with you on dealing with this on a case-to-case basis. It's the longer scripts that needs this sort of treatment, but the shorter ones are generally less intrusive. We might want to note this if we go for it. - ZS 19:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- It might be easier to create a consistent one that says something like "click here for the full transcript of the mission". However, you could use {{main}}, like if you keep one important/funny quote in the main article (just a couple of lines), then link to the full transcript subpage. I'll help once I get internet access sorted out. Gboyers talk 19:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Any way of compacting the length of the article should do for me. I'm interest to know how you'll go about it. :) - ZS 19:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well that's several weeks away, so could you start and just do it your way? I was just suggesting that as well as doing it your way, maybe include one important/funny line in the main article, as a teaser of the full transcript (which may encourage people to read it). Gboyers talk 19:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll test it out with a few GTA3 articles first, but it'll be done later. I need to go to bed. - ZS 19:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
We Need to Edit Major Articles
I look at the newly edited arrticles and do you know what I see? I see little tiny edits. We need to start editing the main projects that have nothing or barely anything and that there is so much to add. Everytime we finish doing a major article I will add a new one on this board. Today I want us to focus on Secrets and Easter Eggs in GTA Vice City which has nothing but one link. No words and a link. Thats it. Please I can do some stuff, but I need your help. If we all worked on 1 word one this article we could complete it in 5 minutes. Knowing that this is almost impossible I ask just a couple people to add one sentence per day and we will have it done in a week. Thank you. Peter13
- We do already have Cleanup Projects where a number of people sign up to complete big tasks. I sort of disagree that lots of different people can add one word or sentence to an article - it just needs one person to go through it, then another person to check it. There are thousands of articles on this wiki that need this treatment. One article at a time is not really enough to get the whole community involved in, but if (for example) you suggest Category:secrets as as task, then we can assign a few people to that, and other people can help out where they can. Gboyers talk 11:58, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I knew it was impossible for one word. I just wanted to be philisophical. I meant that people should do more clean up projects rather than adding something small to a very large article. P.S. Do you add the time you entered that automatically because I want to have my name a nd date without writing the whole thing. Peter13
- Just add four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your comment, and that will automatically sign your name and the date. I agree we need more cleanup projects, but I don't want to flood the community with them - just keep them for when they're really needed. Your best option is to add a Cleanup Template to the top of the page (such as {{expand}}, {{outofdate}} or {{list}}; so that people know it needs work. Gboyers talk 02:59, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
Images Not Showing Up
I'm not sure if this is just me, but I find recently that many images don't seem to load in articles. Article images themselves are fine, but examples or SS's don't appear. And it doesn't look like a link to an empty page, because no red text appears, just the text explaining what is in the image, but no image. Is this just something on my browser, or an issue with the site? Vhazhiphor 06:47, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't seem to be having any trouble viewing images, it sounds like your browser might be configured not to show certain images (as the software isn't telling you of an error, it's just not showing up). Does it happen on any other sites? Other wikis? Specifically on Wikia? Also, what do you mean by examples and SS's? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 07:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I guess one way of putting it is images that are contained within the text of the article. Mostly ScreenShots, such as of vehicles. For example, the following SS from the FCR-900 page, which should show three images; I looked at the source, searched for the image pages, and I could see them fine there. But on the FCR page itself...
- And it's like that on just about every page. Also, I checked on two other wikia hosted wikis and I can see that kind of images on them just fine. Vhazhiphor 07:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Ahh, yes, the above images don't show for me either... Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 07:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC) EDIT: I use Google Chrome, but also tested IE8 and Firefox on Windows 7. The above images show up in none of them.Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 07:41, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- The ads could have caused the images to not show up. I blocked all ads on this site when using Firefox and have no problems seeing images but on IE7 some images are not showing up on this site.--spaceeinstein 08:04, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm using FF, too; didn't check IE, to be honest. So... is there a way to fix that? Vhazhiphor 08:44, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- (Biggest gta fan ever pinged me) I'd report this via Special:Contact, our team there are best suited to help out. Kirkburn (talk) 11:55, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
I see a big empty screenshot. Where is that at? --Uberfuzzy 13:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Works for me. Its possible that our servers were just being slow when they were creating those thumbnails. --Uberfuzzy 19:23, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't seem to have any problems with the image in FX and Chrome, but in IE7 the images seem to not appear depending on the size of the window.
- --spaceeinstein 20:38, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I tried a couple of solutions I've seen around the internet. I tried deleting cookies from this site, and checking the firewall, making sure all images load automatically, but it's still not there. Now, if I log out, I can see them (at least on FCR-900, since we seem to be using that for reference now), but logging in they're not there anymore. I looked around in my preferences but nothing seems to indicate why this happens. I even tried increasing image size limit but it didn't fix the issue. Hope that info helps. Vhazhiphor 01:50, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't work on Apple Safari either. --Gta-mysteries Talk 18:17, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Looks more like Wikia servers managing thumbnails are on the fritz again, because other Wikias are suffering the same problem. That's what can be assumed for now. - ZS 09:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
Removal of Social Tools
Hello GTA community,
As many of you are probably aware, we will soon be rolling out a new skin on all of Wikia. While designing the new look, we did a thorough assessment of all of the features we offer on Wikia. This wiki was one of those trying out the "social tools", which for this wiki were: profiles, userboards, awards, gifts, friends, userboxes and gamercards. These are now quite out of date and so will be removed when we flip your wiki over to the new skin. Some of these social tools have similar extensions that are available, such as achievements. We have created a new version of gamercards, which is now available on this wiki. Please contact us via Special:Contact if you would like achievements, or other new features enabled.
You can view the timeline of the new skin rollout on our recent staff blog post, and more information on our FAQ. Our current schedule to remove the social tools on October 13th, one week after the initial release of the new look. We will update you here as that date nears.
We will be reassessing all the tools to see if any should be developed more fully in the future, so please let us know if there are any that worked particularly well for your wiki --Sarah (Help Forum) (blog) 01:27, September 30, 2010 (UTC).
- I think that social profiles have worked very well on this wiki for as long as I've been here. I woulden't see the sense of removing them. As for achievments, I noticed that some wikis who do have them have "Editing Limits" where you can only edit a page a certain amount of times so you are not editing just to get the achievments. As it encorages a lot of unesessery editing. An "Edit Limit" is really un-democratic in my opinion. Sometimes pages need huge amounts of edits, often by the same users to be completed. Personally, I edited this page over 80 times to get it up to speed. I guess the choice is up to User:Gboyers though. Chimpso (Talk) 02:17, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
- I've always hated the user board, I much prefer my talk page, so it would be good to force users to use talk pages. On the other hand, I find that gifts, friends and awards encourage new users to edit and remain part of the community - and social profiles are good instead of having a red link for most new users who haven't made their own userpage... I also agree with Chimpso that there should not be an edit limit, even (especially?) regular users and staff need to make alot of edits to a single page from time to time. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 09:24, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
- I've been beta-testing the new layout for a while now, and it's pretty good. I will be glad to see many of the Social Tools disappear - the user board can be a big problem since it's not moderated in the same way as the rest of the wiki. However, it's nice for users to have a pre-made profile that updates their information. That said, we can build our own default profile page content easily enough. As for awards/achievements, it's nice to keep a track record, but I'm not sure whether our users value them at all? We don't make a big fuss about them. As Chimpso says, that can cause problems with editing-for-achievements. I wish people would use the preview button more instead of clicking Save 30 times in a row! As for gifts and friends, I think it's only a handful of people who bother. Maybe we can make a better way of doing it (like we do for Userboxes). All in all - I say go ahead, we can think of better ways of doing this if we need to. Gboyers talk 22:17, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
- To be truthful, I dislike the new look. It's making Wikia look more like a social networking site then a professional wiki organisation. As GTA Wiki is (speaking frankly here) slightly more professional (especially with our templates) then other wikis, this may drop our reputation a little. In addition to this, our site banner will have to go, as it runs on Monaco. We use a lot of infoboxes, the small article content space (600px) and large sidebar means that all the writing is squished and messy, with the infobox looking a lot bigger. Of course it's easy to tweak the userboxes to fit, but on many articles here, some images will have to go, as the article is too cluttered. I was using the new look on the Community Wikia and noticed several clashes between buttons, text and images. Chimpso (Talk) 02:11, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that it's not perfect, and I agree that it's quite a big change. I'm not sure it is necessary to go this far towards looking like a social networking site rather than a big open content-based collaboration. I fully intend to tweak & alter the layout to maximise our content area and provide a recognisable GTW experience. I'll keep you in the loop on that. Gboyers talk 05:57, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I think that the new skin is rubbish, advertising again. The constant Wikia banner at the top makes it feel no longer like "
GTA Wiki (hosted by Wikia)," but more like "
Wikia - GTA Wiki" (if you understand what I mean). It looks awful and makes navigation difficult. I quite like Monaco, one of the best MediaWiki skins I've ever seen for both usability and aesthetics, and they're even taking away customisability with the new skin and terms of use (despite ensuring that it would be more customisable than Monaco). Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 06:41, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I think that the new skin is rubbish, advertising again. The constant Wikia banner at the top makes it feel no longer like "
What BGTAFE said pretty much sums it up. Matter of fact, many wikis are planning to move to other wiki hosts (such as ShoutWiki) to avoid the problems this will cause. Almost all of the people who have commented on satff's blog posts have posted negative comments. A poll that was put up showed that 60 people did not want the move to go through, and only 3 people did (most likley staff). They're not even allowing Monaco as an option! Why? Because it costs too much and the technical support teams cannot handle it. This is what I don't get, if you can't fork out money for something everyone wants, how did you get enough money to utilise social profiles or the "My Home" system? I just continue to wonder. If anyone is interested, check out the Anti-Wikia Alliance on the Community wiki, it lists users who are not in support, and wikis who are leaving/planning to leave. World of Warcraft wiki, the third largest, is considering a move. Have a look at this change they made to the terms of use:
"In keeping with the goals of the new look, our Terms of Use have been updated as well. Admins will no longer be able to completely remove core features for all users by using custom CSS or JavaScript. This is to protect the universal layout and functionality of every wiki on Wikia and ensure that users have access to all of the features available in the new design. Remember, these new terms only apply to the CSS of the wiki as a whole -- they don't apply to your personal pages.
To give a few practical examples of what this means: It's not permitted to remove the right sidebar modules, blogs, and image attribution or add a banner that shifts the entire content area down the page, or alter the fixed width. You can still personalize your wiki with different colors and themes, add large, standout images to the wiki background, create styled templates and tables within the content area. There are plenty of ways to be creative! While these terms will limit what you can do to the overall layout, creativity is still an essential part of Wikia."
- "...Admins will no longer be able to completely remove core features for all users by using custom CSS or JavaScript."
- So does that mean that anon editing will be availble on this wiki? That sort of scares me.
- "...This is to protect the universal layout and functionality of every wiki on Wikia and ensure that users have access to all of the features available in the new design..."
- So you're basically saying that you want all wikis to be alike. You are focusing too much on the new users and not enough on the old, more dedicated ones.
- "It's not permitted to remove the right sidebar modules, blogs, and image attribution or add a banner that shifts the entire content area down the page, or alter the fixed width."
- Bye bye GTW banner, it was nice knowing you. You added much appeal to our site, and it feel so different without you.
- "There are plenty of ways to be creative!"
- Well, you're taking away a whole bunch of them now.
This is starting to look like a dictatorship. Sorry for losing my head a little in this, but I strongly support the return of Monaco and the removal of this from the terms of use.
Chimpso (Talk) 07:59, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- No, (the part about CSS) shouldn't change user rights at all (anonymous users editing, moving restricted to staff, moderators), as they aren't features that can be altered with CSS (but instead in LocalSettings.php), though you're right, by trying to make all wikis consistent, they might try to force those changes on us... And the reason they want all wikis the same is apparently because advertisers prefer consistency (over professional looking websites?). Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 08:32, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- You're right, I always used to think of wikia having these priorities in a wiki:
- 1. Article Content
- 2. Users
- 3. Layout and Design
- 4. Advertisment
- Now however, it's more like this:
- 1. Advertisment
- 2. Users
- 3. Article Content
- 4. Layout and Design
Chimpso (Talk) 08:48, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
Could GTW staff please convene here to discuss this? Thanks - Gboyers talk 17:22, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Each time I click on the link I get an error message. A-Dust 22:02, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
The social tools will be be removed tomorrow, October 13th. Please contact me on my talk page if you have further questions or concerns. Best, --Sarah (Help Forum) (blog) 21:50, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
I'm confused with GTA IV
Hi, I am Smashbro8. I think that GTA IV is cool, but I am wondering if the player can turn off the cops in that game. I am also asking if the player can save vehicles at a safehouse, and if there is an invincibility cheat. Smashbro8 03:59, November 16, 2010 (UTC)Smashbro8.
Where would the unfinished bridge in Bohan have led to? Would it have led to Algonquin, or Dukes?
Links from the wiki to a map of in-game locations
As a game player and user of the wiki, I find that I would like a good way to reference game locations from the wiki.
In real life we can reference map coordinates like latitude and longitude, intersections, landmarks, or other named areas. Then handy software like Google Maps, etc. will take us to that location on a map. It would be so handy to be able to make references like that in this wiki, but AFAIK, there's no such thing.
I could totally make this happen: I'm a software engineer and I could easily enough make an app in Flash or some other platform that has a map and can search for locations. My question to the community is: what are your thoughts?
If you had a way to link from the wiki to maps of in-game locations, how would you want to use it? Would you want to make a list of helipads, armor vests, mission locations, etc? Would you want to use wikilinks to maps or also embed them as graphical elements?
Would you be willing to do some of the grunt work like tracing and identifying roads on the map so that the software can search for intersections?
What platforms would you want to use to view the software? Desktop web browsers like Firefox, IE, Safari, etc? iOS and Android?
Michaelstoops (talk) 04:11, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
There must be a way to flag or remove images as a community from this wiki, as people, mostly users with suspiciously empty profiles, are uploading either duplicate images or unnecessary/unwanted images. Additionally or alternatively, I believe the rules on uploading images to the wiki should be revised and more strongly enforced to hopefully prevent this in the future.
Jco176 (talk) 23:18, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
A question about GTA IV
Hi, i been hearing rumors about females characters in GTA IV Oline are lesbias, is this for real?
Bittersweet symphony homage
'SYLVERSECOND (talk) 18:10, October 7, 2013 (UTC)'
Bittersweet symphony homage
Hey there
I watched "A history of Liberty City" yesterday with my friends and I recognised, that at the end you can hear a song which sounds almost identical in comparsion to "Bittersweet symphony" by "The verve"
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tBoz9ep0qk <---- @ 35:43
How can I purchase this song in .WAV? SYLVERSECOND (talk) 18:10, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


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That said, none of these aforementioned sites have managed to mimic the TV-viewing and the radio-listening experience as much as Hulu, Pandora, and Last.fm have. While Hulu gives you access to the latest shows, Pandora acts like your personalized radio station. The same with Last.fm, as it lets you listen to your customized Internet radio stations. Having said that, these services don't really work outside the United States. For those who are not in America, these services are either completely closed or are available with limited functionality, which, many people think is quite a bummer.
Thankfully, though, there is a neat little workaround for the problem. All you need is a Linux desktop, a computer, or, for that matter, any other computer with an Internet connection. For this guide, we'll stick to the Linux configuration. The service that lets you access those restricted sites outside the U.S. is called Tunlr. The service is, as to speak, 'installed' when you change your DNS address to Tunlr's servers. A small amount of traffic then gets routed through their servers thus letting you access Hulu, Pandora, ABC, and many other US-only sites without any proxies or cheeky software.
To get started with Tunlr, simply go to the network indicator and select 'Edit Connections' from the drop-down menu.
From there, select your connection be it wireless or wired and click on the 'IPV4' settings tab as shown in the screenshot. Change the Method to Automatic (DHCP) addresses only.
There, add the following lines in the DNS servers field:
188.8.131.52, 184.108.40.206
Then, click on 'Save'.
Once done, disconnect and reconnect to your network and start watching your favorite sites in their full glory.
Once saved, you'll be able to access Hulu, Pandora and other US-only sites as long as you don't change the settings. However, that doesn't mean that you should keep those settings on forever. Using their servers puts considerable load on the server, so use them only when you need to. Sites supported include CBS, FOX, Vevo, Discovery, MOG, Rdio, iTV Player and many more.
Written by: Abhishek, a regular TechSource contributor and a long-time FOSS advocate.


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Oct. 25, 2004
Springfield College Sports Information
SPRINGFIELD, MASS. - Alisha Miner scored two goals to propel Springfield College past MIT, 5-0, in NEWMAC action on Saturday. The loss snapped the Engineers' five-game winning streak, the program's longest since the 1998 season.
The Pride (15-3, 7-0 NEWMAC) opened the scoring eight minutes into the first half with a goal from Amber Pardee off a feed from Lydia Grant. Miner would then net her first goal of the game three minutes later. Kim Stevens added a goal after another three minutes had expired thanks to another set-up pass from Grant. Miner would close out the first-half scoring for Springfield with 8:27 remaining.
Eileen Jenkins registered the only goal of the second half for the Pride, which was her first career tally.
Lindsey Pardue stopped four shots in goal, and was credited with her sixth shutout of the season. MIT (9-6, 4-3 NEWMAC) goalkeeper Alexa Herman stopped 15 shots in goal on the afternoon.


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Phone Calls Are For Old People? Just Not Efficient Enough
from the bye-bye-phone-calls dept
Consider: If I suddenly decide I want to dial you up, I have no way of knowing whether you're busy, and you have no idea why I'm calling. We have to open Schrodinger's box every time, having a conversation to figure out whether it's OK to have a conversation. Plus, voice calls are emotionally high-bandwidth, which is why it's so weirdly exhausting to be interrupted by one. (We apparently find voicemail even more excruciating: Studies show that more than a fifth of all voice messages are never listened to.)That last point is a really interesting one. One of the "features" of the "always on" society is the fact that we're actually ending up with better tools for managing our time -- and the "old" telephone system really doesn't fit into that setup. Thompson notes in the piece that he simply won't answer calls that aren't scheduled -- and I've been reaching the same stance lately myself. I actually find it odd when people call me without contacting me first to set up a time to call. If anything, it almost feels "rude."
The telephone, in other words, doesn't provide any information about status, so we are constantly interrupting one another. The other tools at our disposal are more polite. Instant messaging lets us detect whether our friends are busy without our bugging them, and texting lets us ping one another asynchronously. (Plus, we can spend more time thinking about what we want to say.) For all the hue and cry about becoming an "always on" society, we're actually moving away from the demand that everyone be available immediately.
Of course, some of this could also be corrected by better technology -- such as allowing a phone to indicate some of your status, such as whether or not you're busy. Better yet, would be a system that automatically built in a scheduling feature if someone wanted to talk to you.


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Garage Doors in the Kitchen
Wait... what? Garage doors in the what? It's true, folks. For those wanting to easily alternate between eating in a conditioned environment and eating al fresco, the simple choice just might be a garage door in this unlikely location. Just take a look at these four stylish examples and see what you think:
That first one up top is so appealing with its open garage door and all-around windows that the work space has invaded kitchen territory. Nice big work table there, isn't it?
Second is perhaps the best-known kitchen with a garage door: it's the Novogratz'! The third example shows just how great such a door could make indoor-outdoor living. And the fourth exemplifies how a large opening can really expand a small space.
What do you think? Would you like this unconventional door-type in your kitchen?
Related: Indoor-Outdoor Kitchens
(Images: original sourse unknown via Canty Shanty, Sixx Design, Coastal Living, New York Magazine)


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Babe can't miss a gameday thread, that just wouldn't be usual..lol
Babe can't miss a gameday thread, that just wouldn't be usual..lol
Trying to decide, stay home and stream the game..or got to the bar....
"When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself."
-Wayne Dyer
Baby sittin the cat. Ready for sum football.
And their fans.
Steelers inactives LB LaMarr Woodley, NT Chris Hoke, WR Emmanuel Sanders, WR Arnaz Battle, OT Jamon Meredith, DE Al Woods and QB Dennis Dixon.
Who Dey Who Dey Who Dey....lol I can't wait to beat the Bungels today....Here We Go Steelers Here We Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carlos Dunlap the Bengals best pass rusher is out. 40 mph winds today, gotta run the ball.
Big hits, big passes, big run game, big DEFENSE!!! Let's do this!
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Talk:Install The 2007 PPC Gentoo
Overview Custom Firmwares
Please update the custom firmware overview as appropriate: http://nas-central.org/index.php/Custom_firmwares Thank you, --Hinnerk 11:51, 3 December 2007 (CST)
I updated the custom firmwares page on 21 Novermber '07. I was not sure about the Home Server (HS) box but basically all of the powerpc boxes are supported except for the TS boxes. --RussK 21:30, 3 December 2007 (EST)
uboot for the linkstation: This pages mentions that <quote> Do not attempt to use this port of U-Boot on a the LinkStation version 2 (HD-HLAN-2) as it uses a MIPS processor which is completely different from the PowerPC processor used in the LinkStation version 1.</quote> - So is there a version that can be used with a version 2 linkstation? --Hinnerk 11:28, 3 December 2007 (CST)
If you are asking if there is uboot for the LS2, I suggest reading the forum thread here: LS2 Uboot + kernel thread. If you are wanting gentoo on the LS2, I am not aware of it. This wiki page is for powerpc boxes, denoted by "PPC", maybe we should make it clearer in the first paragraph(?) --RussK 21:35, 3 December 2007 (EST)
- Ok, my mistake, i'm still just getting aquainted with the language and abbreviations involved here. I actually want to get a Linkstation Live or Pro V2 soon. Which is guess is "arm9" not PPC. I noticed that i always have this problem, that i need to figure out if an article or a section apllies to my (future) specific box. Maybe i can create some templates to be added to an article which immediately show which machines it applies to. --Hinnerk 07:06, 4 December 2007 (CST)
Install EM mode utilities
Are the subsections to be exectued sequentially? Or are these alternatives? If so, which is the crtieria that makes the distiction? --Hinnerk 11:23, 3 December 2007 (CST)
They are alternatives, I updated the headings just now to try make it more clear. --RussK 21:38, 3 December 2007 (EST)


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What makes a live album good or bad?
-Have a good sound quality of course, no fuzzy or muddy sounding recording.
-The band should sound excited.
-Have the band's big songs.
-Have some dialog with the audience. These band's have personalities or they should so let's hear what they say to their fans.
-The hope is that there is some variance between at least some of the live versions and the studio versions. Not every one will agree with this, but I like it when a band speeds up a song a little live or takes a chance with a song or two. Maybe they make the song longer by adding some solos or different parts in.
-Depending on the band, you may want some solos thrown in.
-If it's not the band's first live album then you want some different tracks from the first live album.
There are probably others so feel free to add your own. As for a bad live album, I guess it could be described as anything does the opposite of the above. A few other things a bad album might do is ......
-Be boring or not even as good as the studio versions of songs.
-Sound fake or obviously not live.
I think too often live albums are used as contract obligations. Meaning a band owes the label another album and they don't want to go into the studio right then so the label plops together some piece of pulp and the band doesn't have input or doesn't care. Have some pride in your work. Led Zeppelin didn't want their performance from Live Aid released because they didn't think they performed that well. I can respect that, I can't respect band's who let subpar recordings come out although sometimes I know it's the label's decision rather than the band. I'll step down off the soapbox now and let someone else have a chance.
So what do you think makes a live album good or bad?


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BLACKSBURG, Va. (Sept. 27, 2012) – The ETSU women's tennis team heads for its third tournament of the fall season this weekend, as it travels to the Burrows-Burleson Tennis Center in Blacksburg, Va. to compete at the Hokie Fall Invite on the campus of Virginia Tech.
The three-day tournament begins Friday with first round singles action, as well as first and second round doubles play. Other squads joining ETSU and Virginia Tech in Blacksburg include West Virginia, Radford and Tulane.
Making the trip for ETSU will be senior Antonia Kolovou (Larisa, Greece), and juniors Salma Dahbi (Marrakech, Morocco), Larn McShane (Hobart Tasmania, Australia) and Sofia Espana (Mexico City, Mexico). Kolovou will compete in the singles A flight, with Dahbi in the B flight, McShane in the C flight and Espana in the D flight. In doubles action, Kolovou and McShane head to the A flight, while Dahbi and Espana take on the B flight.
At last year's Hokie Fall Invite, then-senior Paula Jaime advanced to the A flight final and current sophomore Jessica Brumit (Elizabethton, Tenn.) worked her way to the D flight final. While both were defeated in straight sets in their respective finals by opponents from Tulane, the tournament closed out a successful 2011 fall campaign that saw Jaime go 15-3 in singles play and win the back draw at the USTA/ITA Ohio Valley Regional Championships.
Daily recaps and updated draws will be posted on ETSUBucs.com at the conclusion of each day. Tournament draws for the start of play will be available when released.
For more information on ETSU women's tennis, please visit ETSUBucs.com and click on the women's tennis links.