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The Budget 2017-18 handed down by the Government has provided further insight to the operation of the new Temporary Skill Shortage (TSS) visa which will replace the Temporary Work (Skilled) Subclass 457 visa from March 2018.
The budget measures announced included the introduction of a new training levy framework which will underpin the TSS visa and replace the existing training benchmarks that currently have to be met by employers accessing the 457 visa program.
Employers who nominate foreign employees for the TSS visa and certain permanent skilled visas will have to pay the new training levy which will be contributed into a new 'Skilling Australians Fund'.
The revenue generated from this fund which is estimated at AUD 1.2 billion in the Budget's forward estimates, will be used to support Australian skills development and the take-up of apprenticeships and traineeships.
From March 2018, businesses with annual turnover of AUD 10 million or more will be required to make an upfront payment of AUD 1,800 per visa year for each foreign employee sponsored on a TSS visa. In addition, they will also pay a one-off levy of AUD 5,000 for each foreign employee sponsored for Australian permanent residence.
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Sathriyan movie cast: Vikram Prabhu, Manjima Mohan, Kavin, Aishwarya Dutta,
Sathriyan movie director: S. R. Prabhakaran
Sathriyan movie rating: 1 star
Sathriyan starring Vikram Prabhu and Manjima Mohan is about two gangs in Trichy trying to overthrow the other. While one is headed by Samuthiram, the current king of the underworld, the other is headed by Shankar. In this film, Vikram plays the role of an underhand, who later becomes important in Samuthiram's gang. Manjima plays the role of his daughter Niranjana.
Screenplay is the backbone of any film. If this goes wrong, then the foundation of an entire movie is weak. So weak that one tiny whisper would destroy the complete film. That is exactly what happened with this Vikram Prabhu starrer. The film did not come together, but was more like a hodge-podge of scenes stitched together.
A mediocre story in combination with the direction and screenplay from above lost its luster. What was probably expected to be a gangster romance film with contradictions and full of characters ended up being an empty vessel that made too much noise.
It could have been an interesting movie if it had a proper direction. At any given point in the film, the story doesn't come together. There are loopholes so big that it is hard to miss. There are so many faults, that in the end it all feels like a farce in the name of a movie. All of it because it lacked that steady direction.
Vikram Prabhu, Manjima Mohan, Aishwarya Dutta and Kavin play pivotal roles. The cast of good actors together performed badly. Vikram Prabhu did not have the aura of a powerful man in the underworld. Manjima does a decent job. Kavin, and Aishwarya Dutta who had no use in the film were probably the only two people who lighted up the screen, but that was sadly for a mere few minutes.
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Ned Kelly's remains found in mass grave
- Photo: Ned Kelly on the day before his execution, November 10, 1880. (National Archives of Australia)
- Photo: Bushranger Ned Kelly's helmet at the State Library of Victoria. (AAP)
- Photo: Drawing of bushranger Ned Kelly being led to the gallows to be hanged at the Old Melbourne Gaol on November 11, 1880. (Reuters: Old Melbourne Gaol)
- Photo: Sidney Nolan's painting titled, Ned Kelly - Outlaw. (AFP)
- Photo: Burial site excavated by Heritage Victoria at the former Pentridge Prison site in Melbourne, that was thought to have the remains of Ned Kelly, March 2008. (AAP: Heritage Victoria, file photo)
- Photo: The Story of the Kelly Gang, made in 1906 and filmed in Melbourne, is recognised in the film industry as being the first feature film ever made. (fanpop.com)
- Photo: The face mask of Ned Kelly at the time of his death in November 1880. (AAP: Julian Smith)
- Photo: Police mugshot of Ned Kelly, aged 16, circa 1871. (Reuters: Old Melbourne Gaol)
- Photo: One of the cartridges found during the digging of a test trench at Glenrowan, the scene of Ned Kelly's last stand, on May 9, 2008. (Narelle Graham: ABC News)
- Photo: Mick Jagger stars as Ned Kelly in the 1970 movie, Ned Kelly. (fromthebarrelhouse.wordpress.com)
- Photo: Armour worn by Ned Kelly, 1879 from State Library of Victoria. Part of the Irish in Australia exhibition. (State Library of Victoria: Supplied photo:)
- Photo: The skeleton that was confirmed to be that of bushranger Ned Kelly, September 1, 2011. (AAP: Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine)
- Photo: Mourners carry the coffin of bushranger Ned Kelly during a funeral service at St Patrick's Catholic Church in Wangaratta in Victoria, Friday, January 18, 2012, 132 years after his death. (AAP: Paul Jeffers)
Ned Kelly's headless skeleton has finally been identified more than 130 years after his execution in the Old Melbourne Gaol.
Victoria's Attorney-General Robert Clark says the infamous bushranger's remains have been identified by doctors and scientists at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine (VIFM).
His body, missing most of the skull, was put into a wooden axe box and thrown into a mass grave with the corpses of other prisoners.
The bodies were transferred from the Old Melbourne Gaol to Pentridge Prison in 1929 and then exhumed again in 2009.
A DNA sample taken from Melbourne school teacher Leigh Olver, who is the great grandson of Kelly's sister Ellen, confirmed the identification.
The forensic team had to sift through the remains of 34 people mingled together in the mass grave.
Mr Clark said he was enormously impressed with the efforts of the forensic team.
"This is an extraordinary achievement by our forensic team here in Victoria," Mr Clark said.
"To think a group of scientists could identify the body of a man who was executed more than 130 years ago, moved and buried in a haphazard fashion among 33 other prisoners, most of whom are not identified, is amazing."
Kelly was captured after a shootout with police at Glenrowan in Victoria in June 1880.
He was hanged for murder in the Old Melbourne Gaol in November of that year.
Skull riddle
The hunt for his body began in earnest in in November 2009 when a skull believed to belong to Kelly was handed in to the VIFM by Tom Baxter.
The skull had been taken from the Old Melbourne Gaol in December 1978, where it had been on display next to the death mask of Ned Kelly. The ink inscription "E. Kelly" was written on the side.
The Victorian Government asked Professor Stephen Cordner and his team of forensic experts to try and identify the skull.
While the skull investigation was underway, the team began trying to identify Ned Kelly's remains from among the bodies exhumed from Pentridge in 2009.
The team was able to confirm that this skeleton belonged to Ned Kelly.
The identification was completed when a DNA sample taken from Mr Olver was compared to a DNA sample taken from remains.
Ned Kelly's remains turned out to be an almost complete skeleton found buried in a wooden axe box, although most of the skull was missing.
The skull handed in by Mr Baxter was found not to be that of Ned Kelly, and Glenrowan historian Gary Deans says the next step is to find Kelly's skull.
"The Government should put a request in the public arena for the return of Ned Kelly's skull," he said.
"We know thanks to Jack Cranston, who held the skull around 1929, that it was sitting on a detective's desk. This was around the same time that remains were dug up in the Old Melbourne Gaol.
"I imagine that that detective or somebody else took it home."
Outlaw's life
Kelly was born in June 1855 in Beveridge, around 40 kilometres north of Melbourne.
The eldest son of eight children to John 'Red' Kelly and Ellen Quinn, the infamous bushranger was first arrested at the age of 14 for assaulting a Chinese man.
After his mother was arrested and sentenced to three years' imprisonment for aiding and abetting an attempted murder in 1878, Ned and his brother Dan, along with friends Joe Byrne and Steve Hart - the members of 'The Kelly gang' - went into hiding from police.
The four ambushed a group of police on their trail in Stringybark Creek, killing three, and from that point on became outlaws.
After more than two years the gang's period on the run ended in 1880 when police cornered them at the Glenrowan Hotel.
Ned Kelly, wearing a suit of armour made from heavy steel, was captured after being repeatedly shot, while the other three gang members died in the shootout.
He was taken to Melbourne and sentenced to death for murder.
Topics: history, crime, human-interest, melbourne-3000, australia, vic
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ABC (Moderator):
01 Sep 2011 9:07:37am
What should be done with Ned Kellys remains?
01 Sep 2011 9:57:40am
Just bury them! Who gives a toss. I've never understood why Ned Kelly is such an Australian legend. He was a violent, murderous criminal and criminals shouldn't be glorified.
01 Sep 2011 10:49:37am
I totally agree with Isabelle. Why does our society have to glorify criminals and thugs is beyond me.
Scatter his bones in an unmarked location or throw them to the sea like they did with Bin Laden.
Seon Ferguson:
01 Sep 2011 10:57:41am
It's the same reason the Robin Hood story was so popular. But he murdered cops, so you are right. Just give him a decent burial- it's more than he deserves.
01 Sep 2011 10:59:03am
not understanding is a natural thing. sometimes it takes time to understand. N. Kelly is a Australian legend because he stood up for what he believed in. while he came from modest social status, he didn't just bow to the will of the rich and their law. I think pegging him as murderous is really one sided. If he really was such a bad guy, why would the people celebrate him? Don't try fitting a square object into a round hole. Just accept that there are square objects and round objects, and that's what make the world an interesting place.
01 Sep 2011 11:53:49am
"N. Kelly is a Australian legend because he stood up for what he believed in"
So he believed he could take what he wanted and when the police tried to stop him, he stood high on his moral ground and killed them? Woah, round of applause for Ned Kelly, a truly moral man.
"pegging him as murderous is really one sided."
Ummm... is the fact that he murdered people really in contention? I thought it was a well documented historical fact.
"he didn't just bow to the will of the rich and their law"
So now not stealing things that aren't yours and not killing people is a law of the rich??
"If he really was such a bad guy, why would the people celebrate him?"
That's was perplexes me. Let me take a stab - because Australian's are trying to claim their convict origins as something to be proud of? This would also explain why Waltzing Matilda is such a popular song. I honestly don't know.
Urien Rakarth:
01 Sep 2011 12:43:13pm
Well said, IsabelleT. We still have unscrupulous police and rich people today - probably more so now in the modern era. I would love to see if most of the people posting in defence of the Kelly myth would support violent action against them. Probably not. Romanticism is a wonderful thing.
Mr PH:
01 Sep 2011 12:52:14pm
What is wrong with our convict origins? It does play a major part in the Australian character. Who are you to deny that? Descended from English nobility or someone? Waltzing Matilda comment .. whats with all the hate of Australiana?
Urien Rakarth:
01 Sep 2011 12:18:41pm
"N. Kelly is a Australian legend because he stood up for what he believed in."
So, any criminal standing up for what he or she believes in makes their crimes okay? There are plenty of better Australians who stood up what they believe in but have not been placed on some mythical level.
"If he really was such a bad guy, why would the people celebrate him? "
You must have difficulty understanding the role of cultural narratives, of Australian's desperate need to reframe our history. Many cultures around the world inject much fiction or exaggeration into historical figures where the actual events become distorted or lost. The same is happening right now with Stalin, in Russia. Mind you, Kelly was not as bad as Stalin, but Kelly is no saint.
"he didn't just bow to the will of the rich and their law."
Nor did he do anything for the underprivileged. And don't give me that "sticking it to the man" myth.
01 Sep 2011 12:34:15pm
Well thinker,It doesnt take much imagination to understand how you wouild feel if this happened in the here and now and the victims were members of your own family.Or perhaps you can enlighten usWhy the tapestry of time gives a common murderer a warm fuzzy glow to some people is a bit of a puzzle.
Mr PH:
01 Sep 2011 11:00:33am
Why don't you go back to school and do an elementary history class. Maybe you will understand the times and place that was Northern Victoria and an emerging Australian society.
01 Sep 2011 11:55:04am
I realise they were hard, volatile and turbulent times - that doesn't excuse theft and murder.
01 Sep 2011 12:34:11pm
Nobody is trying to deny "theft or murder" but what about Jesse James in USA? Dick Turpin in UK? Blackbeard the pirate?
Surely you must remember those "thieves and murderers".
Your attitude to something of an icon of early Australia leaves much to be desired. Do you perhaps come from overseas? Are you just ignorant of Australian attitudes? Well get off your high horse no matter where you came from, Australians love the underdog so get used to it.
We dont have a lot of history in this country but Ned Kelly is historically ours, and yes, he did stand up for his rights because in his days there were pitifully few "rights" of citizens. Good on Ned I say, was much better than being under the thumb of the British :)))
Mr PH:
01 Sep 2011 12:36:16pm
The fact is you don't realise. It wasn't hard, volatile or turbulent. Those are just terms bandied about to generalise the beginnings of the Australian story. It might be easy to in the context of the 21st century to say "that it doesn't excuse ..." but that isn't what it's about. It's history teaching us that that we can even say that.
Canberra II:
01 Sep 2011 11:11:59am
You haven't read your history, Irish history, then. Read, learn, educate yourself and then you will understand.
He should be given a very respectful burial.
01 Sep 2011 12:11:07pm
So I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) that you're saying Kelly is excused from his crimes because he was of Irish descent and therefore treated as inferior by the authorities and those who were of English descent. While I agree that it is regretful that Kelly experienced racism (xenophobia?), it does not give him the right to steal and kill people.
01 Sep 2011 12:54:22pm
There is a phrase - "presumed innocent until proven Irish".
Captain Willard:
01 Sep 2011 12:12:43pm
Wasn't Kelly born in Australia? Wasn't the Judge who sentenced him born and educated in Ireland?
01 Sep 2011 11:21:10am
Paradoxocally it is due to Ned Kelly some laws in Australia were changed FOR THE BETTER!
This is a fact!
Dallas Miller:
01 Sep 2011 11:34:15am
Your 100% wrong there Isabellet your forgetting who the real villians are in those days children where being hung for stealing a slice of bread because they where hungry get your facts straight first will you..
01 Sep 2011 12:14:21pm
Sooo... because other people killed children, Kelly should be admired because he only killed men (and only policemen at that!)?? He wins because he wasn't as big of a villain as others at the time? Great defence there.
01 Sep 2011 12:44:48pm
That's not what he was saying at all.
He, and many other people here who have made comments you have ignored in making your one-dimensional assertions, are trying to point out the fact that if you consider Ned Kelly's actions in the context of the times and the social conditions, it might not be as simple as 'he is a criminal'.
01 Sep 2011 1:05:17pm
Isabelle, I respectfully suggest that you come down from your high horse and acknowledge that Ned Kelly's sitaution was a very sad one, and none of us should sit in judgment on him.
No, the treatment handed out by "the authorities" to the Kelly family does not justify the murder of the three policemen. Nor was that treatment justifiable. Northern Ireland has managed to arrive at a form of peace through goodwill on both sides. I would like to think that we Australians can learn from that process, and stop harping on the brutality of the colonial administration and the "lawlessness" of people like Ned Kelly.
01 Sep 2011 11:36:18am
I just can't understand all the money they've spent on this. Seems extraordinarily wasteful and for what?
Ashley King:
01 Sep 2011 11:47:39am
I think if you read the history and the life and times of Ned Kelly you would understand what happened and why. Ned because he and his family were Irish, they were persecuted by the local Landlords / Police and figures of Authority.
They kept pushing and pushing Ned and his family until there was no other option but to Bush range and Loot. Its a sad indictment of the racism and hatred which sadly still pervades Australian life today
01 Sep 2011 11:51:38am
Well said Isabelle. Your in-depth understanding of the social and political events of the time is an education to us all.
As for the rest of this forum debate it is very sad.
rufus t firefly:
01 Sep 2011 11:53:03am
If you're saying all criminals shouldn't be glorified simply because they are criminals I would say you haven't really thought this through (where would you place Gandhi? etc)
On the other hand if you're only referring to criminals who shoot police and defy authority (as in this instance) you still have to ask why they do what they do - there may be some justification.
And if you're really only speaking of Kelly, then some historical knowledge wouldn't go astray. Kelly was a popular hero in VIC when he was alive (one of the reasons the police response to him was so large for the times) - you need to wonder why so many people supported a rebellious murderer - unless police and authorities were so bad, for so many, at that time, that his behaviour was the lesser of two evils...
01 Sep 2011 12:25:53pm
Gandhi is not a relevant example.....
01 Sep 2011 1:05:08pm
Why not? He was a convicted criminal. So was Nelson Mandela.
And even closer to home, think of Peter Lalor who led an armed rebellion at the Eureka Stockade. He later became Speaker of the Victorian Parliament.
Captain Willard:
01 Sep 2011 12:58:14pm
Didn't Ghandi have a policy of non-violent resistance?
01 Sep 2011 12:07:51pm
Why is he such an Australian legend? Because we don't have a history recognised by the majority beyond 1788. Because the anglo-saxon settlement is built on the backs of convicts.
Criminals shouldn't be glorified : well there goes CSI / NCIS / Law & Order / Underbelly / Robin Hood / most of popular fiction.
01 Sep 2011 12:27:43pm
its 2011 - there must be a way to make money out of them.
01 Sep 2011 10:41:57am
A proper burial, but the final decision should be up to his descendants.
Captain Willard:
01 Sep 2011 11:17:03am
Reanimate them so that he can steal cars, beat people up, take hostages, rob banks, shoot up police stations and murder police officers. Then we might rethink our over-romanticising of his life.
01 Sep 2011 12:34:05pm
Whatever is the least expensive option IMHO. I can't believe we are wasting taxpayers funds on this garbage. Where is the essential public infrastrucure we so badly need when the Government is wasting energy, time and money on the meaningless process of identifying one criminal's very dated skeleton. C'mon, honestly!
01 Sep 2011 9:20:25am
Such is DNA.
01 Sep 2011 9:27:30am
Give him a proper burial with a headstone.
01 Sep 2011 9:28:10am
If its possible, bury him. Next to Redmond Barry so his honor won't be lonley.
01 Sep 2011 10:59:59am
hear hear.
and tell some truths about Ned and his family's life.
Captain Willard:
01 Sep 2011 12:44:49pm
I think Redmond is buried next to his wife.
Ahyoo Serious:
01 Sep 2011 9:30:12am
Put them back where they were.
01 Sep 2011 9:31:20am
The remains should be given a decent and proper burial in a cemetery designated by his descendants.
What the police did to that family both before and after events was a crime in itself. It's time to at least bring some sense of civility to the entire matter.
01 Sep 2011 9:35:34am
They should be buried or cremated according to the family's wishes, another outstanding question
Matthew :
01 Sep 2011 10:13:05am
I agree - the family should have the final say
01 Sep 2011 9:35:56am
A memorial and statue in a prominent place.
desert ship:
01 Sep 2011 9:42:25am
something to do with dignity, respect & the family. Like all human beings if given the opportunity.
Ture Sjolander:
01 Sep 2011 9:42:50am
Send it back to Europe and let it rest in his own soil!
01 Sep 2011 11:20:15am
But Ned Kelly wasn't from Europe, he was born in June 1855 in Beveridge, around 40 kilometres north of Melbourne,Vic, Australia.
01 Sep 2011 11:23:16am
Europe would be the wrong destination, or are we all just assigned to economic zones these days?
Does anyone of Irish or UK ancestry or birth actually identify as European?
Derek Parnell:
01 Sep 2011 11:28:45am
He was born in Beveridge, Victoria.
Tom Riddle:
01 Sep 2011 9:43:27am
He was nothing but a violent, murdering criminal. Throw his remains back in the hole, don't glorify this type of low life.
If he was alive today people would be calling for his head just like they were back then. He was nothing but a killer who was feared by people, not a man to be admired.
Wake up to yourselves.
01 Sep 2011 10:46:48am
Learn some history. He was not feared by the people, only by the police.
01 Sep 2011 11:06:54am
Of course he was feared by the people. Not all of the people, but all of the ones that weren't in collusion. And no doubt quite a few who were in collusion because they didn't want to cross him. He was an extraordinarily violent man, who murdered, robbed and assaulted until he was finally brought down. Do you think vulnerable and remote communities weren't afraid of that?
rufus t firefly:
01 Sep 2011 11:58:11am
You're both right. He was very violent but he was also a very popular in the wider community. VIC police at the time were widely reviled as corrupt thugs (and VICPOL history tends to confirm this assessment).
01 Sep 2011 12:55:26pm
Many of the Victorian police at the time were ex-criminals themselves and judges were notoriously corrupt.
Captain Willard:
01 Sep 2011 11:12:19am
Yeah the police aren't people, he only murdered a few of them, he should remain a national hero.
Joe Palmer:
01 Sep 2011 10:53:40am
I think you'll find that some of the police of that era were not particularly solid citizens either. Many of them openly hated the Irish and treated them as subhuman. Kelly was the victim of prejudice and injustice, but overreacted and went wild.
John :
01 Sep 2011 12:15:58pm
Interesting then that my former history professor Frank Clarke once told me that one of Ned's relatives finished up as a copper in Western Australia.
01 Sep 2011 10:55:21am
Except they didn't call for his head. Thousands of people signed a petition asking him to be spared.
I'm not going to dispute that he was a murdering criminal, but there's much more to the story than you're saying.
01 Sep 2011 9:46:35am
He was murding scum. His remains should be burnt and dumped at sea like the other recent murding scum, Bin Larden.
Last thing we want is a memorial where scum like kelly can be worshiped
01 Sep 2011 9:46:53am
For tourism purposes make the remains pay! I suggest an interactive display where you shoot Kelly's skeleton in his original armour.
It irks me that only sportspeople and criminals are famous in this town.
01 Sep 2011 9:46:58am
Could send them to the police academy for a little a "retrospective" questioning.
01 Sep 2011 9:50:31am
Well if his decendants want them they should be allowed to take them and give him a proper burial.
01 Sep 2011 9:51:08am
just bury them and let history stop making him sound like a hero. He came from a family of criminals and was nothing but a thief & murderer. Lets just drop the 'oh the poor family was forced into being criminals' bit and see him for what he was amurderer and thief not a robin hood at all
Ked Nelly:
01 Sep 2011 9:51:23am
Put them back where they found them.
Urien Rakarth:
01 Sep 2011 10:00:07am
History makes martyrs of us all. Had he been alive today, Kelly would be appropriately reviled. But once again Australian myth making heavily distorts the past to the point where a criminal becomes a hero. Go figure.
01 Sep 2011 12:00:24pm
The Kelly's chose to be criminals while other family members managed an honest existence. He killed people including my great-uncle. He should not be glorified.
01 Sep 2011 10:02:01am
A museum in Melbourne??
01 Sep 2011 10:02:03am
What SHOULDN'T we do with Ned's remains is perhaps a more pertinent question. From my POV, we shouldn't have a say in it - Ned's family's wishes are sacred, aren't they?
01 Sep 2011 10:02:17am
Historically he is a well known figure and as Australians we love the underdog. Give him a proper burial with a headstone and let him be part of our history.
01 Sep 2011 11:08:37am
Underdog? Ha! He was a murderous lowlife. Everyone deserves a burial, but let's not glorify this criminal. It's shameful how so many people admire Ned Kelly.
01 Sep 2011 12:42:44pm
Yes he was the underdog, he was pursued by the police at all costs until he was shot.
Your previous postings do you no credit either Isabelle T. let me tell you your sanctimonious attitude is exactly why Ned Kelly became a bushranger. Go and read about the TRUE history of Ned Kelly before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.
I guess you think all of us are ashamed of our convict heritage well as a descendant of two 2nd fleet convicts I am certainly not ashamed. The British sent the convicts here to be rid of them in UK and so they would die. They didnt die, they made a truly wonderful country for us and I am very thankful that they did. They had to endure their British captors though and they were merciless in their treatment of them, hanging children as well as women and men.
01 Sep 2011 1:13:40pm
Isabelle, you obviously give a toss. I see your point but I think you're taking it a bit too seriously. You're putting a 21st century spin on the events. I'm not saying he is a hero but the events and circumstances are not black and white. If we take a 21st century judgement on history then we could crudely refer to the events of 26th Jan 1788 and 25th Apr 1915 as invasions! After all that's what they were... weren't they?
Kelly descendant:
01 Sep 2011 10:03:10am
Normally the deceased leaves an indication of where they would like to be buried in their will or family members assume their intentions. Given the current circumstances his closest descendents could decide or perhaps be buried near his parents, or Glenrowan. (He will probably get more visitors there.)
01 Sep 2011 10:03:22am
Find his head then decide what to do with his body.
01 Sep 2011 10:03:31am
bury him in the same way that any thug and murderer should be buried
rufus t firefly:
01 Sep 2011 12:03:13pm
That would be a grave wouldn't it?
01 Sep 2011 12:06:45pm
Yes, I agree; which means a burial that shows respect for life and humanity, with no regard for how we think he might have respected the same.
01 Sep 2011 10:05:29am
Place him in an individual grave, and do the same with the other people uncovered. I'm sure many members of the public would flock to Kelly's, but he was just one of 34 human beings found in that mass grave.
01 Sep 2011 10:06:20am
really, wasn't he just an outlaw punk that felt he was above the law and would happily kill someone for their watch? You don't point a loaded gun at someone's face without a willingness to use it.
tutti fratelli:
01 Sep 2011 10:12:27am
Proper burial I say.
01 Sep 2011 10:15:08am
Why on earth would anyone bother to undertake (pardon the pun) this effort? Seriously, why does anyone care about this guy?
Ture Sjolander:
01 Sep 2011 10:21:14am
Send it to China with an apology
01 Sep 2011 10:22:14am
Really ABC? That's your view of history?
Why point out the man was Chinese? Kelly wasn't a racist and he served longer time for horse stealing. But you went with the racial angle.
Ned's mother was defending her daughter against a drunk cop. But you left that out too.
The gang wasn't cornered at Glenrowan. They called out the cops and waited almost two days for them to turn up.
Not all the gang members died in the "shootout". Steve Hart and Dan Kelly died by being burned to death when the cops set the inn on fire.
Nice slant on the story. But no cigar.
Mr PH:
01 Sep 2011 11:12:00am
Well most brief articles mention it as an assault on a chinese man. The fact was, it was a chinese pig farmer and he was acquitted of the robbery. A decision in favour of the Kellys? The significance that the man was chinese is lost in such a short piece I agree.
Captain Willard:
01 Sep 2011 11:29:09am
Called out the cops? Didn't they pull up the rails so that the train would crash before it got there? (It was only a brave citizen who flagged down the train with a lantern before it hit the broken rails from my memory?)
01 Sep 2011 10:25:30am
If we celebrate the life of this convicted murderer and theif then we are hypocritical.
The police he killed at Stringybark Creek had families. Even if he and his associates killed them in self defense, the theft of items, such as valuable watches, from the corpses was not in self defense. There is no honour in stealing valuable items from the dead when those dead leave families with no breadwinners.
This would not be the first century when journalistic bias in search of a good story has led to rather biased interpretations being placed on historical events.
01 Sep 2011 11:29:00am
Then read some of the contemporary accounts. Here's just one eample:
"about 200 persons assembled at half- past 10 o'clock on Saturday morning at the town-hall, for the purpose of accompanying the brothers Gaunson to Government-house to appeal for a reprieve on behalf of Edward Kelly. They were duly received by His Excellency, and Mr. Hamilton presented the resolution passed at the meeting praying that the condemned man's life might be spared."
- The Argus, 8 November 1880
This was just one of many petitions for his life to be spared. His life was being celebrated while he was still alive.
01 Sep 2011 10:26:24am
If they give Ned a proper burial than every other body in that mass grave should get the same treatment!
01 Sep 2011 10:27:04am
I believe the Family should be allowed to make the decision of where the ashes should reside. Ned Kelly is a part of Australia's History .... but ultimately/Culturally .... His Family deserves to be able to lay him to rest in whatever way they see to be dignified and honorable!
Liam :
01 Sep 2011 10:27:32am
Ned holds such a lively place in the Australian cultural identity he should be given a burial befitting a national treasure, regardless of whether he was a bit of a scallywag or not.
01 Sep 2011 11:12:17am
Bit of a scallywag?! He MURDERED people! He was a thieving, violent criminal - not some larrikin who played pranks!
01 Sep 2011 12:21:15pm
IsabelleT. I don't think you realise the persecution that was placed on these people back then and how there is evidence into the fact that their was unfair treatment.
Back then, it's not like you could petition to make a change in the government or police for unfair treatment or a lawyer to argue your case... the government was everything and it wasn't exactly the democracy - couldn't go to a current affair to complain back then.
I'm not saying murdering was right but what would you have exactly done if you were being persecuted like that? Put it up with it sure. A lot of people did. But then there probably would have just been another person like Ned Kelly eventually.
01 Sep 2011 1:10:02pm
Kayla. I do actually have a fairly thorough knowledge of frontier Australia. I am aware that there exists circumstantial evidence that the Kelly family did experience discrimination due to their Irish heritage and I know people often did not have sufficient recourse to address the unfair treatment they received from an authoritarian government riddled with corruption. This is very unfortunate. Kelly really did himself no favours though. I don't think he was an idealistic hero who fought police corruption by engaging in armed combat with police officers. It seems to me that the anger he felt from his persecution fuelled his already existing desire to steal and commit crimes (which are NOT honourable acts) and his murdering police officers was just a desperate act of survival, rather than a symbolic act against corruption.
John Oh:
01 Sep 2011 10:30:01am
Neds remains should be buried in his hometown. An example of what not to do at a Police trial and investigation.
Puss in Boots:
01 Sep 2011 10:33:36am
His remains should be treated with dignity and interred or cremated as preferred by his descendants.
The other remains should also be identied and treated similarly.
This procedure of burying inhabitants of prisons without acknowledgement should cease immediately. People regardless of situation should have a grave or urn with their name on it.
01 Sep 2011 10:38:44am
Send them to Glenrowan so tourists can take their kids photo in front of the tombstone and then go and buy a souvenir T-shirt...YEAH!!!
Shaun Newman:
01 Sep 2011 10:41:09am
The tragedy is that school children probably know more about Jesse James or Billy the Kid, than they know about Ned Kelly and Captain Starlight. It is sad that we don't concentrate on our own history.
01 Sep 2011 10:46:47am
Who cares! Good riddance to a criminal.
He's not a role model or hero of any kind, nor a person that anyone should look up to.
Mr PH:
01 Sep 2011 11:19:18am
No one is saying look up to him as a hero. His legacy is different to these days of football icons and thespians of insignificance but have a read of his Jerilderie letter and you might learn a bit about the man
rufus t firefly:
01 Sep 2011 12:05:14pm
Would you prefer Warney?
01 Sep 2011 10:47:02am
You can't glorify the murder of 3 policemen. But it is a poignant episode that symbolises the hard life and struggle many settlers experienced under colonial rule in Australia. I think there should be a descent burial and a monument signifying the struggle between law enforcement and outlaw gangs of the colonial era of Australia.
George Michaelson:
01 Sep 2011 10:47:34am
what about the other 32 bodies? Are we so shallow that we carelessly toss 32 hanged men into the dustbin of history and give the kelly family some closure?
I want the story about how they did DNA analysis on the other bodies and gave their families the same rights.
01 Sep 2011 10:48:39am
If it is OK with their descendants, recover and inter the Kelly Gang alongside each other with a prominent memorial, and establish a proper world-class museum devoted to the Kellys and life during that period in general, at Glenrowan as a tourist attraction. Would help revive the town and district.
01 Sep 2011 11:00:03am
His own soil is Aust.
Police in those days were as bad as outlaws. If you were Irish your life was hard.You can't look back & say he was trash & not look back at out police of that time as well. English police treated the family like trash no wonder the boys fought back. Let the family have the remains
01 Sep 2011 12:16:48pm
I think that's the most important part of the story of Ned Kelly's life and death: he was an underdog type of hero for Irish Australians and represented a common struggle.
Now that 'white Australians' are all blithely labelled as 'Anglos' or as European, the stories of Irish Catholic Australians are dying out with the generation who fought in WWII.
All comments which simply label Kelly as a criminal have little knowledge of early Australian society.
I also doubt that there are thousands of dispossessed homogenous Kelly relatives who might want to ceremonially bury his bones. I find these suggestions to lack respect and represent an offensive underestimation of why Aboriginal people today ceremonially bury Aboriginal remains.
There's not so much of the Irish Australian struggle left to fight, surely?
01 Sep 2011 11:11:37am
Seriously....."all you people saying just chuck him in a hole, he was nothing but a crim". He was also a human being. How do the Americans bury those that have had their death sentence carried out??? The family gets the remains to bury/cremate as they wish. No different here....yes he was a criminal who was found guilty of heinous crimes but he paid for his crimes with his life, let the family decide. No-one elses business really.
Gorden Farkas:
01 Sep 2011 11:12:55am
Give the Man a state funeral!
I'd be happy if my tax went there...... R.I.P........ E. Kelly
Viv Algernon:
01 Sep 2011 11:13:11am
I believe that he typifies Australasian Larrikinism and should be rewarded with a posthumous honorary ALP portfolio.
01 Sep 2011 11:14:47am
Buried/cremated according to surviving family's wishes. Then we can forget him and move on. I've never understood the attachment to Kelly - he was the 19th century's version of Jason Moran or Chopper Reid, with a family to match. Violent thugs and thieves who predated the terrorist tactic of taking hostages by a hundred years.
David Buchan:
01 Sep 2011 11:17:20am
Who gives a damn? Kelly is very dead, just a bunch of bones, and how much taxpayer money was given to these "forensic scientists" to work that out?
01 Sep 2011 11:24:25am
Give Kelly a decent burial outside prison walls.
Kelly's sentence was carried out .The public, the police and the government ceased to have any further claim on his person once his execution was carried out and his remains therefore should not be turned into an indecent public display.
01 Sep 2011 11:26:17am
If it were up to me,I would have them cremated and let him go in the ranges of Kelly Country,the place Ned loves best.That's where he is & always has been anyway.Rest In Peace dear brave Ned. X
01 Sep 2011 11:30:29am
I can't understand why we glorify a criminal but it is something in the Australian DNA I suppose <sigh>.
However it happened the myth has become larger than reality and will only increase with passage of time. Hence we should offer a burial/display befitting an icon.
Decendants should get input into whatever happens.
I still don't care but hey .... such is life.
Peter Adamis:
01 Sep 2011 11:32:48am
I find the majority of comments to be of a negative nature and wonder and wonder if there are hidden agendas if any regarding Ned Kelly and his remains. Ned Kelly led a tumultuous life that brought him into conflict with the local authorities and then became a problem for them as they could not manage his escapades early in life. However, please step back and reflect on your comments once you become more familiar with the events leading up to him becoming a bushranger. The Irish in those days and up to the early 1950 were treated as second class citizens. Like any new comers of todays immigrants, they too had to find their way in society. The days of old were very hard on any individual and to judge them by todays standards is folly indeed. Ned Kelly deserves to be buried with dignity and allow the ghosts of the past to rest. Thos who throw stones at glass houses should closer to home and they may find that they have a few broken windows of their own No one is immune past or present from some folly in life. . Peter Adamis Watsonia
01 Sep 2011 11:34:01am
Regardless of their reasons , these guys were criminals plain & simple. He should never have become a cult figure, should never be celebrated in any way. I agree with other posts, that myths & story tales have turned this guy into the hero he never was.
Dallas Miller:
01 Sep 2011 11:37:56am
Long Live Ned Kelly the legend who took a stance against police corruption He deserves a taxpayer paid funeral with all honours A grand state funeral and he deserves a medal in my opinion. SUCH IS LIFE...Rip Ned..
Christopher Hobe Morrison:
01 Sep 2011 11:42:09am
Not too long ago I was reading about the death penalty in England. I read that it has for a long time been traditional for executed criminals to be buried in unmarked graves on the grounds of the prisons they were executed in. Their families apparently had no option of choosing a burial place or to mark their graves. In the not-too-distant past during work on the grounds of one of these prisons, the buried remains of some of these executed criminals were found. No effort was made to identify any of these or to contact their families, but they were cremated and again buried in a mass unmarked grave. Apparently these people did not expiate their crimes with their execution, apparently the state's revenge has no end. I also read that this policy was in effect in Canada, also.
I notice one of the comments comes from Tom Riddle. I don't know if this is Tom Riddle Sr. or Jr., so I don't know whether this is Voldemort or his father.
01 Sep 2011 11:44:07am
I'm really surprised by the lack of historical understanding present in these comments. Is this the level of ignorance and judgement that's really out there? Know your history people!
People seem to be judging Kelly's actions by using today's frame of reference - life was different back then and as some have mentioned, families like Kelly's were victims of abject persecution and corruption and he tried on numerous occasions to bring to attention the injustices they'd all suffered, but to no avail.
Seems we are destined to repeat the mistakes of the past..
01 Sep 2011 11:49:29am
He did the punishment for his crime. He danced at the end of a rope until dead. I think he should be forgiven for whomever he killed over a century ago. He was also goaded into his lawlessness by police... nowadays it could almost be considered entrapment. Now bury him outside Melbourne gaol as a tourist exhibit so people can gawk and stare at his grave.
01 Sep 2011 11:49:51am
Poor Ned, you're better off dead/at least you have some peace of mind. (Redgum)
Bury him properly, the same with the others in the mass grave. It is hard to credit there are people now who are advocating that mutilating any body and dumping in a mass grave is defensible.
He took his brutal punishment. Why degrade ourselves by defending the attacking the shell of his body after death? Remember that was the 19th century...
Oh, and people have some sympathy for the Kelly's. Or is police persecution of individuals on the basis of their origin or religion to be defended here too?
01 Sep 2011 11:50:01am
There is no disputing Ned Kelly was a criminal but why do we remember him so. I believe it was all to do with the bizarre get up he had on at Glenrowan. Putting on a suit of armour and attacking the police while wearing it is one amazing story. I think the family should bury his remains in a cemetery with those of his other relatives, if tourist go there, so be it.
01 Sep 2011 11:52:43am
Researching the stories of our colonial past is very interesting. That time in our history is fraught with predjudice and open hatred between the more royalist of the population and the more idealistic, who hoped for a new, more free, life out here... and it was also a time of frontier justice...both on the side of the 'law abiding' as well as the 'outsiders', which, by the way, included the aboriginal population. How many of them were murdered by officers of the 'law'??? The police were little more than vigilantes and the people opposed to them were exactly the same. It was almost gang warfare. Kelly was a Marxist before his time, is all, and it just didn't work in his favour. He is a hero for fighting for what he believed in, and a criminal for choosing to kill for what he fought for. He is what he is and the words of people posting hatred on here will harm those who are related to, and proud of being part of, the Kelly legacy.
01 Sep 2011 11:54:04am
I agree with most of the comments here - WHO CARES! He was a violent criminal with no honour.
He was not a Robin Hood, or a Che Guevara, or a William Wallace, any other number of other outlaws with a cause and a reason for their civil disobedience, he was the Billy The Kid of Australia - a misfit with nothing but vengeance, murder, and a general disdain for authority running through his veins. I too can't understand the venerated position he enjoys in our country's folklore, as it only serves as an example to those with evil on their minds that there is somehow an honour in robbery and murder.
Cremate what remains of him and scatter the ashes at sea I say, so the rotten element of our society cannot make his grave a shrine.
01 Sep 2011 11:56:18am
Isn't the kind of interest and reverence shown to Ned Kelly and criminals of the past similar to the present day fascination with the mobs in melbourne and the "glorification" of these same mobes in the tv show "Underbelly"?
01 Sep 2011 11:57:17am
Nothing is as simple as it seems. Ned was neither a hero nor a cold blooded murderer. He was brave, certainly and impetuous and he refused to be persecuted by a corrupt Victorian police force (as they were at the time).
Ned acted like a man who had nothing left to lose, because he was forced into a corner. He knew no one would believe his version of events. Did he act like a thug, yes, but having read his story, I really do understand how he reached that point.
The police he killed were arguably shot in self defence.
Ned's remains should be treated with respect. Love him or loathe him he has an undeniable place in history and he helped shape our Australian identity.
Jane Steinberg:
01 Sep 2011 12:00:03pm
give the remains to the family for burial
i as to why he is considered by some to be a legend , it was part of our then culture . but yes I agree we really shouldn't gloryfy criminals.
01 Sep 2011 12:00:17pm
Put them in the museum vaults. I'm not sure of the display value of them but they should be kept.
01 Sep 2011 12:02:05pm
Redgum expressed it best for me:
Poor Ned, you're better off dead/At least you'll get some peace of mind.
01 Sep 2011 12:02:11pm
Ned kelly has paid , with his life , for crimes committed, this cleans his slate, let him lie in peace
Terry Hardy:
01 Sep 2011 12:04:32pm
Ned Kelly was nothing but a criminal apprenticed at an early age to a horse thief to learn the trade. The view that he stod for the down troden is a fairy story. He should be buried in the same maner as all persons who died in custody were at that time.
John of Marrickville:
01 Sep 2011 12:08:02pm
On with his head!
01 Sep 2011 12:15:31pm
The remains should be given to the Glen Rowan city for proper burial with a head stone and a plaque commemorating an era of lawlessness, thus giving the town a big boost for the tourist trade.
01 Sep 2011 12:26:03pm
Ned is neither a hero or a villain - or he is both.
He is absolutely guilty of murder - there is no denying that. He could have just gone and been hung instead. Oh that's right - that happened anyway.
He did draw attention to an issue of great concern to people of the times - particularly those of Irish origins. That is - the issue of the fairness and integrity of the law and its representatives, the police. It would appear he had good reason for his grievances and was therefore a hero for making a stand - to his own peril.
Times were tough, the cops were bad, Ned went bad, people got hurt - examples were set for all time. Bad cops lead to dead cops and bad deeds lead to bad outcomes, despite any good intentions. I think there has been something in that for a wide range of people ever since.
The memory of Ned should be honored. Not for the obvious, illegal behavior, but for the examples set in society, that have stood ever since. It is a part of our history - we cannot, should not deny it. It's colorful - establishes the principal of law and order and the consequences of badly enforced law.
We owe Ned and his descendants a lot.
01 Sep 2011 12:30:13pm
Posted at 10 and 100 comments by 12! That must be a record, but what is it saying about Ned? Perhaps we love a criminal or just some good old blood & guts.
There are many ways to be famous and it seems the reason for fame is as irrelevent now as 100+ years ago.
01 Sep 2011 12:34:35pm
Rest in Peace dear brave Ned.You will always be loved & remembered forever.He is eternally in the ranges of his beloved Kelly Country no matter what.
01 Sep 2011 12:40:33pm
That's the problem....it's not just regardless of their reasons. It has every thing to do with their reasons. They didn't wake up one day and think lets commit terrible crimes. Forced into a situation, they had no other choice.
They were different times. It's hard for some of us to understand their actions.
When your family is threatened..... any one is capable of anything.
01 Sep 2011 12:44:31pm
Ned was a hero and his story will live on long after we are all gone and forgotten.
01 Sep 2011 12:48:42pm
Well said Urien. The same gift for myth making that claims Simpson and his donkey and Breaker Morant are Australian heroes when in fact both are English
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01 Sep 2011 12:51:30pm
At least the Kelly family can finally have some closure.
01 Sep 2011 12:53:37pm
Poor Ned!
I think some of the posters' here need a lesson in Australian and Irish history. Additionally, Isabellat, get over yourself please. You did not live in those times. God forbid if you had!
Ned Kelly is an Australian Icon for good or bad. Let the man rest in peace
01 Sep 2011 12:53:47pm
I think to many of you are glorifying the police in those times.it's common knowledge that the police in those times where so corrupt & used the law to hide their crimes.
Ned Kelly is an Australiam hero because he stood up for his beliefs,values and his family. After years of being persecuted, watching his family & friends being violated by the very men who were meant to protect them. He stood up & took action, was it the right action? No, but he was given little choice, it's not like he would have gotten a fair trial etc. Most of the iconic men in history are murders yet we still celebrate them, King Arthur, Robin Hood etc. It's not what he did we are celebrating, it the reasoning behind it,
I say, if his family agrees. Give him a decent burial, with a headstone, statue etc, that describes who he is, what he had done & most importantly WHY he did it.
01 Sep 2011 1:00:00pm
I am disgusted by the developement in this news that the Victorian government is considering what to do with the Kelly remains and further disgusted that the private owners of Kelly's place of emprisonment and execution should come within a cooee of being considered as having any say in the matter.
Disgusted that we forget that the manner of our honouring the dead is tied up with our ability to keep promises, as we keep promises when we honour a person's testamentary wishes.We don't just honour the dead only for their own sakes, depending on our biased view about their just deserts, but because we believe that we are not animals.
Even animals such as elephants seem to have more decency in mourning than the grizzly musings today about giving due consideration to the "historical significance" of an individual's bones.The historical significance is as much to do with the duty we owe to pay homage to honour and decent ways of behaving.
01 Sep 2011 1:01:13pm
People seem to be getting rather vexed about glorifying criminals...If you think about it we still do it. How come the footie "heroes" who assault other players on football fields around the nation are held up as worthy people? We choose our heroes for many reasons and their violent bent is often glossed over and image re-made to suit fans, interest groups and media. We also tend to demonise the newest arrivals in the nation and the Irish were the new arrivals back then. The Kellys were just the latest iteration of the underdog immigrant gang. If they were glorified for the wrong reasons back then, you can't say we've learned that much, looking at who we hold up as heroes now.
01 Sep 2011 1:12:16pm
He was a cop killer. Put him back in an unmarked grave.
01 Sep 2011 1:12:31pm
Just maybe it's not as simplistic as some of the black and white comments on this post would have you believe. A respect for authority is fine as are the laws made by it when they are JUST and FAIR but the authority and laws around Kelly's story were neither "just nor fair" and were indeed a carry on of the horribly unfair penal colony that started this country in the first place. There should be some recognition of Kelly's Legend be it at the Melbourne Goal as part of the exhibits or at the Vic Museum -wherever. Yes Kelly need not be glorified but neither should he be totally vilified without recognition of the system that contributed to his delinquency.
01 Sep 2011 1:13:10pm
No grave, it would become a shrine to a unworthy man. How many people know the names of the men he murdered, the real heros of this story.
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Heres a quick little spring tote I whipped up during Mason's nap
You can make a few too! All you need is:
a canvas tote mine is approx 15"x15"
Similar sized scrap of fabric
and a few cute buttons
I found these canvas totes at Michael's for $1 each a while back. I picked a few up figuring that saving me the time of sewing them together and making handles was worth a dollar alone.
First you iron out your tote
With bag inside out, line the side seams up in the center of your tote and iron flat, like so
Hard to explain, easy to do! : )
both corners of the bottom of the bag should be stacked
Draw a line across the corners. I did a 4" line which will make the bottom of my bag 4". If you want the bottom to be wider make a longer line at the corner.
Sew along pencil lines on each corner. You should end up with something like this
Turn bag right side out and set aside. If you do not want to line your tote then you may skip the next few steps.
If you plan on adding a flower or other goodies to the outside of you bag sew them on now before adding the liner.
For the lining cut a piece of fabric to the width size as the tote. fold in half at bottom. My piece was 15"x 32" before I folded it in half. Fold the top edges over and press then fold over again and press to make a nice top seam. If you want to add pockets to the inside of the bag sew them on before sewing the sides of the bag. Sorry I forgot to take a picture of that.
Stitch sides together but leave the top alone for now
repeat the same corner technique as with the tote to make a 4" bottom to the liner
place the liner in your bag wrong sides together and top stitch the 2 together
Just like that you bag will be finished
I wanted to add a little extra ruffle, so I sewed 2 strips and added them to the tops of the handles
Ruffling is super easy just stitch your strip of fabric with very loose tension. I backstitch just a bit at the very beginning to make ruffling easier.
To ruffle the strip simply pull 1 of the 2 strings until desired ruffles are achieved!
I only added 1 pocket to the inside of my bag, but I did add a bit of ruffle to it :)
And just like that you take a $1 canvas tote and make a fabulous spring shopper
I use this fantastic tutorial to make my flowers, but beware, you'll be addicted and everything in your home will be covered in fabric flowers!
Peace is in the bag!


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Sunday, December 29, 2013
Linen Valentine Gift Tags
I spent part of my weekend finishing up some Valentine designs for my Etsy shop. I had so much fun with these linen gift tags! I used my Silhouette Cameo and a marker holder by Amy Chomas ( http://amychomas.blogspot.com ) to help make these. Love, love, love the look of the way it printed on linen using a Sharpie no-bleed pen. I am still thinking of others that I'd like to do - but.... now I am on to fabric gift bags.
Posted by Lauri Springer at 3:47 PM
Labels: Crafty Things, Sewing
2 comments:
- Amy Chomas said...
These turned out fantastic! Love them!!! Thanks so much for sharing them!
- December 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM
- Amber Horn said...
I was hoping you might be able to help me figure out how to get a design from the silhouette to a shirt. I want to use Amy's Comas Creations pen holder in my Silhouette Cameo to make a design for shirts but I can't stick a shirt in the cameo :-) I was thinking I need to transfer it somehow. Any advice would be greatly appreciated :-)
- December 31, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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When, many decades after its release, I saw this film, I was prepared for the usual "let's put on a show" plot that movie studios did a lot in those days. Indeed, I understand this was one of a series Monogram made with the four leads (June Preisser, Freddie Stewart, Noel Neill, Frankie Darro), setting them in high school and, in this film, graduating them to college. I've never seen any of the others in the series so cannot comment on their musical quality, though Freddie Stewart's sweet singing must sound as good in the others.Watching this film, I was surprised that this Monogram "B" musical had some wonderful musicians just "sitting in" -- the likes of Russ Morgan, Candy Candido, Les Paul, Abe Lyman, Wingy Manone and Joe Venuti, among others. These great musicians just sat around and casually played together. The movie even threw in some interesting dancing by jitterbug champion Arthur Walsh. It's fun, too, to see Alan Hale, Jr. (nice-but-not-overly-bright Sarge) well before his more commanding Gilligan's Island days, and Noel Neill (cute-as-a-button Betty Rogers) before she became Metropolis' all-business Lois Lane, pal to TV's Superman. This movie was filmed at the Monogram Studios in Los Angeles, which became the studios of KCET, still located on the very same spot, as of the last time I was there.The music in this little movie is worth the purchase of the DVD. Some time ago I was able to buy a video tape of this film but have yet to find a DVD. It's a cute movie with wonderful music by historically great musicians. Hope someone makes a DVD of it and I hope to find out about it when they do.
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