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PDF Version: Terrorism and Entrapment in the Era of Increased Scrutiny of Police
Case Commented On: R v Nuttall, 2016 BCSC 1404 (CanLII)
On July 1, 2013, John Nuttall and Amanda Korody placed three pressure cooker bombs in the bushes next to the British Columbia Parliament Buildings ("the Legislature") in Victoria, B.C. The contents of the explosive devices included nuts, bolts, nails, washers and other materials intended to kill or maim people. Luckily, the bombs never detonated. It became public knowledge immediately after the incident that the devices were inert and were manipulated by the RCMP before Nuttall and Korody got their hands on them. The RCMP clarified that while the threat was real the public was never at risk as the threat was detected early and disrupted.
The initial reports indicated that Nuttall and Korody were a couple living in Surrey in the Lower Mainland and were converts to Islam who were self-radicalized. Over the following weeks, more details began to emerge about an elaborate RCMP and CSIS led investigation – Project Souvenir – that had been involved with Nuttall and Korody in the months, weeks, days, and hours leading up to the bombs being planted.
On June 2, 2015, Nuttall and Korody were convicted by a jury of a number of terrorism offences, but their convictions were not entered as they immediately applied for a stay of proceedings based on the conduct of the RCMP during its undercover investigation. This is known as entrapment. As I will describe below, entrapment occurs when someone is induced to commit a criminal offence as a result of unfair law enforcement practices such as trickery, persuasion or fraud.
In Canada, in a trial for a terrorism related offence, an accused person cannot put the defence of police entrapment before a jury and so Nuttall and Korody bore the burden of proving entrapment, on a balance of probabilities, in front of Madam Justice Catherine Bruce of the British Columbia Supreme Court in Vancouver, who was also the presiding judge during the jury trial. In a 288-page opinion, Justice Bruce found that, for the first time in Canadian history, defendants had been entrapped by the RCMP into committing a terrorist act.
In this post, I will first lay out the underlying facts of the RCMP's involvement with Nuttall and Korody, and then examine the existing law of entrapment and how it was applied by Justice Bruce to the facts of this case.
Underlying Facts of Project Souvenir (from paras 15-471)
The RCMP became involved with Nuttall in February 2013 when they received a tip that he was attempting to purchase potassium nitrate, a precursor to an explosive substance, at local pharmacies in Surrey. The RCMP had previously received tips in July and October 2012 from a neighbour who overheard Nuttall speaking on the phone espousing violent Islamic beliefs following his conversion to Islam in 2011.
A psychiatric nurse attended Nuttall's residence and concluded he was not suffering from a mental illness, though he might be developmentally delayed. At this time, the RCMP began Project Souvenir after CSIS passed on information that Nuttall constituted a "threat to public safety" (at para 20). The concern was that Nuttall might be a recent Muslim convert who was attempting to recruit others and might be capable of violence.
The RCMP surveillance on the pair began on February 2, 2013, when two officers attended the Nuttall residence on the pretext of a domestic complaint in the neighbourhood. While they didn't find anything suspicious in the residence, they continued enhanced surveillance over the following months, including direct contact with the pair through scenarios where an undercover officer ("Officer A") would make up a scenario that would bring him into direct contact with Nuttall and attempt to get Nuttall's assistance in completing a task. The first task was an attempt to find Officer A's niece, who in the scenario was someone who ran away from home due to her family's strict adherence to conservative beliefs about Muslim women. This scenario was intended to play on Nuttall's increasingly radicalized Islamic beliefs.
The scenarios gradually ratcheted up to plans to get Nuttall to devise a terrorist plan and execute it (with the idea being that the RCMP would intervene at the last minute and arrest the pair). Officer A told Nuttall that he was now part of Officer A's "organization", which was a jihadist organization, planning a large scale attack on the West. But Nuttall had to come up with the plan for the attack. These ranged from an attempt to blow up the naval base in Esquimalt Harbour, to hijacking a passenger train in Victoria, to the eventual plan to plant pressure cookers on the grounds of the Legislature, similar to the tactics used in the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013.
Unfortunately for the officers involved in Project Souvenir, Nuttall proved to not be particularly competent, organized, or able to devise a plan and come up with the details to execute it. Frequently he would concoct wild and unrealistic plans, including: firing Qassam rockets over the Legislature in Victoria, freeing Omar Khadr from prison, launching some sort of attack on the Vancouver Sun Run, and freeing prisoners from Guantanamo Bay.
Following a few months of failed plans and a lack of hard evidence to tie Nuttall and Korody to violent jihad, the members of Project Souvenir changed tack to attempt a more traditional "Mr. Big" style operation on the pair. In this scenario, Officer A would introduce Nuttall to another undercover officer, who would be a fictitious leader of a jihadist organization and he would press Nuttall to choose a target and execute a terrorist attack.
Officer A began to turn up the heat on Nuttall by getting mad at him and threatening to expel him from his organization, unless Nuttall could come up with a workable plan for an attack. Officer A promised to finance the plan if Nuttall could come up with a realistic plan of attack.
Eventually, a plan came together about planting pressure cookers on the grounds of the Legislature in Victoria. Nuttall demonstrated time and time again that he had no idea how to make an explosive. The RCMP took the pair to Kelowna in order to have Nuttall plan out the attack. It became clear that he had no idea how much black powder or C4 (a form of plastic explosive used in the making of bombs) he would need for his rockets. He had no idea where to get explosives. However, Officer A again eliminated Mr. Nuttall's lack of knowledge and resources as obstacles by promising to provide him with all the C4 that he would require. In fact, during the Kelowna trip Nuttall and Korody told the fictitious leader of the jihadist organization that they felt pressured by Officer A to support a plan that was quick and that he was not interested in helping them with their long-term plan to build rockets, which was their dream.
At para 375, Justice Bruce summarized many of the things Officer A did for Nuttall and Korody in the days leading up to the pressure cookers being planted:
Officer A systematically eliminated all of the obstacles that Mr. Nuttall had previously placed in his own path towards executing a plan for jihad. In particular, Officer A said that he would take care of the explosives and the guns; he would drive them around to shop for anything they required to build the bombs; he would give them the tools they needed; he had already found them a place where they could construct the devices; he would take them to Victoria a day prior to locate targets and transport them to the location where they would place the bombs. He would also provide them with a safe place to test their bombs. In addition, Officer A said he would do whatever he could to ensure that the defendants stayed alive after they planted the bombs. It was not going to be a suicide mission.
Law on Entrapment
The Supreme Court of Canada (SCC) developed the doctrine of entrapment in three major decisions: R v Amato [1982] 2 SCR 418 (CanLII), R v Mack, [1988] 2 SCR 903 (CanLII), and R v Barnes, [1991] 1 SCR 449 (CanLII), though Mack remains the leading case. In Mack, the police engaged a known drug dealer to act as their agent in the investigation of Mr. Mack for drug trafficking because he was someone previously known to Mack. The drug dealer repeatedly solicited Mack's participation in drug transactions, and eventually an undercover officer offered Mack $50,000 in clandestine circumstances at which point Mack agreed to arrange a drug transaction and was arrested upon delivery.
Justice Lamer, writing for the Court, concluded that entrapment occurs in circumstances where:
- The authorities provide a person with an opportunity to commit an offence without acting on a reasonable suspicion that this person is already engaged in criminal activity or pursuant to a bona fide police inquiry (known as "random virtue testing"); or
- Although the police have a reasonable suspicion or are acting in the course of a bona fide police inquiry, they go beyond providing an opportunity and induce the commission of the offence. (known simply as "inducement") (Mack at para 130)
At paragraph 557 of Nuttall, Justice Bruce interpreted the principles from Mack to mean that the police are not entitled to embark on an investigation into criminal activity that includes providing a person with "an opportunity" to commit an offence unless they are acting on a reasonable suspicion that this person is already engaged in the type of criminal misconduct under investigation. Reasonable suspicion means more than mere suspicion but is less than reasonable and probable grounds. As explained in Mack, the absence of a reasonable suspicion may indicate that the police are engaged in random virtue-testing or, worse, acting in bad faith based on improper motives (Mack, at para 112).
Importantly, the second part of the entrapment defence outlined in Mack states that even where the police have reasonable suspicion that a person is already engaged in the type of criminal misconduct under investigation, the police may not induce the commission of an offence.
Application of Law to the Facts of this Case
- Reasonable Suspicion
On the first part of the entrapment argument, Justice Bruce found that the police had very little evidence at the commencement of Project Souvenir to support any reasonable suspicion that Nuttall and Korody were already engaged in criminal activity of any type (at para 615). Justice Bruce found that the expression of radical beliefs, without more, is not enough to provide police with a reasonable suspicion that such a person is involved in criminal activity (at para 617).
At para 622, Justice Bruce held:
An opportunity is a situation in which something one wants to do is made possible; however, a possibility is not an opportunity, it is only something that might happen sometime in the future…. The question is when or if any of the statements made by Officer A amounted to a true opportunity to commit a terrorism offence.
The Defence argued that when Officer A committed unconditionally to provide C4 to Nuttall in June 2013, the pair was induced into committing a terrorist offence. The question then turned to whether, at that point, Nuttall and Korody were already engaged in criminal activity. The Crown argued that even this offer of C4 did not constitute the provision of an opportunity to commit an offence.
At para 631, Justice Bruce held that:
In my view, Officer A's offer was not merely an inquiry into whether the defendants were willing to engage in a terrorist act or some other type of preliminary step in the investigation. Nor was the offer necessary to perpetuate contact with the defendants who were by this time desperate to be with Officer A. It was a firm and specific opportunity and not a mere possibility that was communicated to the defendants. Accordingly, I find the RCMP presented the defendants with an opportunity to commit a terrorism offence when Officer A committed unconditionally to provide the C4 for the pressure cooker devices on June 16, 2013.
Justice Bruce was satisfied that, by June 2013, Nuttall had proven his ineptitude, his "scatterbrained character", and his inability to remain focused on a task, which would be "essential to the articulation and execution of a terrorist plot" (at para 634). She found that, at the time of the offer of C4, there "was little objective evidence to support a reasonable suspicion that Mr. Nuttall was already engaged in criminal activity related to terrorism." (at para 648)
- Inducement
Justice Bruce also addressed the inducement issue, in case she was wrong that the RCMP lacked reasonable suspicion that Nuttall and Korody were already engaged in criminal activity.
In Mack, Lamer J. outlined a series of factors relevant to the assessment of whether police went beyond opportunity and strayed into inducement. These include: deceit, fraud, implied threats, exploitation of vulnerabilities and friendship, any police conduct that undermines constitutional values, and whether police conduct was persistent and proportional, and whether it included any illegal acts (Mack at para 125). Justice Bruce found that all these factors were engaged in this case. At para 769, she found that:
Based on the evidence before me, I am satisfied that the RCMP knowingly exploited the demonstrated vulnerabilities of the defendants in order to induce them to commit the offences. They adopted a multi-faceted approach that included most of the factors in favour of a finding of entrapment articulated in Mack, including the use of trickery, fraud and reward; the use of persistent direction to become more organized, focused and realistic in their jihadist ideas; the use of persistent veiled threats to adopt the pressure cooker plan as their own and to abandon the grandiose ideas that the police knew the defendants could never accomplish; the exploitation of the defendants' social isolation and desperation for friendship with Officer A, as well as their ongoing search for spiritual meaning in their lives; the creation of an elaborate ruse that led the defendants to fear for their lives if they failed to satisfy this sophisticated international terrorist organization; the repeated angry encounters with undercover officers who played roles as terrorists; and the decision to play the role of the defendants' spiritual advisor and exploit the influence Officer A had secured over them to direct their actions towards the use of violence to accomplish religious and political objectives.
The Court's Conclusion
Finding that the test laid out in Mack for raising the defence of entrapment was met, Justice Bruce held that this was a case where a stay of proceedings was warranted due to an abuse of process by the RCMP. She found that this was truly a case where the RCMP manufactured the crime: "[t]he police took two people who held terrorist beliefs but no apparent capacity or means to plan, act on or carry through with their religiously motivated objectives and they counselled, directed, urged, instructed and moulded them into people who could, with significant and continuous supervision and direction by the police, play a small role in a terrorist offence." (at para 775)
In overturning the jury's verdict, this case became the first instance in Canada where the defence of entrapment succeeded in a terrorism-related offence. Justice Bruce delivered a scathing critique of the RCMP's conduct in this case. She said, "Simply put, the world has enough terrorists. We do not need the police to create more out of marginalized people who have neither the capacity nor sufficient motivation to do it themselves." (at para 836) The Crown immediately announced that they would appeal Justice Bruce's decision to the British Columbia Court of Appeal.
It will also be interesting see what impacts the amendments to the Criminal Code, RSC 1985, c C-46 through the passing of Bill C-51 will have on future cases where entrapment is argued in a terrorism context. The new section 83.221 of the Code states:
Every person who, by communicating statements, knowingly advocates or promotes the commission of terrorism offences in general — other than an offence under this section — while knowing that any of those offences will be committed or being reckless as to whether any of those offences may be committed, as a result of such communication, is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years.
The Crown raised this section of the Code but Justice Bruce dismissed its application, seeing as this section of the Code was not in existence at the time of Project Souvenir or the planting of the pressure cookers by Nuttall and Korody.
Whether or not the Crown's appeal succeeds, we truly are in a watershed moment with respect to police actions in the context of home-grown terrorism.
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CSNCalifornia.comPractice No. 9Summary: A new face and an old one were welcomed to camp on Saturday as newly-signed tight end Kevin Boss got in his first work as a member of the Raiders and running back Michael Bush signed his one-year tender and finally reported to camp, 10 days after he could have, five days before he would have been considered a hold-out. Both saw some action in live drills -- not a lot -- but enough to get a feel for things. And after a week in which the offense got the better of the defense most of the time, the defense answered with aplomb. The Raiders also signed three receivers -- Derek Hagan, Chad Jackson and Shawn Bayes -- and a fullback -- Bryson Kelly -- while coach Hue Jackson said recently-signed guard Justin Smiley told him earlier in the day he was retiring. Oakland will take Sunday off and practice Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday in anticipation of Thursday's exhibition opener against Arizona at the O.co Coliseum.Injury report: Sixteen players sat out practice with various "nicks," receivers Jacoby Ford (broken left hand), Louis Murphy, Eddie McGhee and Derrick Jones (Achilles'), fullback James McCluskey, tailbacks Taiwan Jones (hamstring) and Darren McFadden (fractured eye socket), offensive linemen Bruce Campbell (knee), Lou Eiliades and Alan Pelc, defensive backs Chimdi Chekwa (shoulder), Mike Mitchell and Joe Porter and defensive linemen Trevor Scott (knee), John Henderson and Jarvis Moss.RELATED: Raiders add three free agents
Offensive play of the day: On the second-to-last 11-on-11 play of the day, Jason Campbell hit Shaun Bodiford on a perfectly timed slant pass from the right side from 10 yards out and for a touchdown. Bodiford beat cornerback Stanford Routt and safety Tyvon Branch on the play and yes, Bodiford was out there with the first-team offense on the play.Defensive play of the day: As a strong safety, Tyvon Branch is not supposed to have soft hands. But after dropping back into coverage and then reacting to a Trent Edwards pass over the middle, Branch showed 'em. His interception of Edwards was clean and pretty. Especially for a strong safety.Eye on reps: Take it for what it's worth, but the first-team offensive line had a beefier, more experienced look to it as rookie Stefen Wisniewski moved from center to left guard for the second day in a row, though he did move back to center later on. The first-team O-line on this day, then: (left tackle) Jared Veldheer, (left guard) Wisniewski, (center) Samson Satele, (right guard) Cooper Carlisle, (right tackle) Khalif Barnes.Rookie report: Let's just call this this Denarius Moore Corner, for now. The fifth-round receiver's latest highlight reel play was another beauty. This one was a long bomb from Kyle Boller, in which Moore split rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke and veteran safety Hiram Eugene for the touchdown. As coach Hue Jackson said earlier this week, there goes that man again.Notable: Blood from that noted Harvard-Hillsdale College feud spilled on the practice field when defensive tackle Desmond Bryant tangled with left tackle Jared Veldheer late in practice. OK, I kid about the collegiate feud. But the lightning quick rumble between the two behemoths was entertaining, nonetheless.Quotable: "We're going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play. That's what I want. That's what I demand. And that's what my players are going to give me." - Raiders coach Hue JacksonNext practice: Monday, 3:30 p.m.
Camp Report (86): Boss, Bush make debuts
Camp Report (86): Boss, Bush make debuts
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Hey everyone I've been dating this guy for about 2 months he was in a relationship when we started dating with his ex of a year and 3 months.
They lived together as well and she has a kid but the isn't his.
Anyway, they broke up he told me he didn't break up with her for me. He said he broke up with her because they had to many problems and was always fighting.
We went out to eat tonight and went to the movies but I just found out that he's he still supporting her and her daughter financially, he stayed with her from Monday until today. He said the only reason he stayed with her was because he was low on gas and had no money and because his work was closer to her house and because she was taking him to work.
I also found out that they had sex today while he was staying with her. I don't know if they had sex the whole
time he stayed with her or not. He told me that he still has feelings for her and her daughter because they was like family to him. I also found out that they are going to a carnival together tomorrow and I read some of his text and he had told her that he enjoyed spending the week with her and wanted to move back in. So my question is is playing us both or is he planning to go back to her and not tell me?
Is he planning to go back to her or is he playing is both?
Hey everyone I've been dating this guy for about 2 months he was in a relationship when we started dating with his ex of a year and 3 months.
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He's playing you. You're the side chick. It's sick that there's actually a name for it now.
Get out of that relationship or whatever you can call it.
Depending on the boundaries you set I would assume him havin sex with his ex while dating you is cheating. So leave him. You have better options I'm sure.10|10|0
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Um who cares if he's playing you both, he's def not being honest or faithful to you. Kind of important in a relationship.10|10|0
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By placing a mother's story alongside a father's story in this volume, Smiley experiments with the differing narrative rhythms she associates with each gender. The first-person voice of Ordinary Love belongs to a fifty-two-year-old Iowan, a divorced mother of five grown children who typifies Smiley's clear-eyed defiance of sentimental pieties about the heartland matriarch. Rachel Kinsella's story, matter-of-factly told in a tone at once stoic and unrepentant, involves the jarring incompatibility of having proudly borne five babies in five years while married to a doting, ambitious doctor, then initiating an adulterous love affair that ruptured the family idyll so completely that even her identical twin sons were separated in ensuing custody battles. Rachel's history, an arc of emotional devastation and recovery, leads her in middle age to a maturity brought into being out of wildness, grief, and tenacity.
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like on a scale from 0-10? how hot do i appear to you?
How hot would you say I am?
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I'd say a 7 or 810|10|0
I would say a 7/1010|10|0
It would probably be easier if I could actually see you...00|00|0
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You look very handsome and smart I don't know maybe it's the glasses but at the same time you don't fit a stereotype because you also look very athletic.
You're definitely attractive... I'd give you an 8.
thank you ^_^
um its rude to call a guy hot but yeah, you're attractive enough00|00|0
so number?
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well they can post whatever number they want!
What it comes down to is what i can do, not what they see when they look at me; but what they see when they look at my work and actions..
I am curious what people think of me so that i can read their reactions better, a number is only to bring a more relative to the perspective.
and one more thing, thanks for looking out for me ;)
Sorry, I just get bothered when people want rates I find it sickening.
not that hot.00|00|0
late again :P :p :p
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Flesh is not even on fire. 0/1063|30|1
6 i'd say
That depends, Whats the number for ugly as shit?00|00|0
you can use 0
but it is highly inadvisable since it will be interpreted as being jealous, and the absolute opposite be understood to be the more truthful
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hhh lol
ok seriously you probably would be a 6/10 just another average guy, not ugly but nothing special either.
Not very..31|20|0
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Kathleen Shea cold case
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Kathleen Shea 6 yr. Old vanishes
Going to school
DOB : Feb. 2, 1959 Tyrone Pa.
Disappeared: 3/18/65 last seen around noontime nearing school talked to a neighbor as she walks back to her school after lunch.
Natal without time of her birth:
Pluto was poised in her birth chart for such a potential event to take place and take her as a young child�with Pluto square Mars, square Jupiter opposed to Venus , Quincunx to Mercury and square the Moon. Pluto the planet of transformation, quickly transformed her into an angel at an early age, only 6 yrs.of age on this earth.
Her natal positions, (time unknown) with Venus conjunct fixed star Fomalhaut (an Immortal Name) the ancients say is conferred to one with this star as we saw with quite a few on this form of missing and dead children, one of them I recall was Sylar Orion Newton age 2 who wandered away from his caretakers and died alone in a creekbed.
This little girl had a Celestial lineup which suggested she would meet with an untimely and early demise or had the real possibility of same.
Her Mars already in detriment and square to Pluto is also conjunct exactly to Algol.
So I don�t think she lived and is under an assumed name, but rather left this earth rather early, just after being kidnapped.
If she was born anywhere near the noon hour, her Moon would have been conjunct fixed star Antares, and I wouldn�t be surprised if Antares was a Parans star in her map .
Antares is often seen in the charts of murdered people because it�s a star of violence.
The Ancients called it Anti-Ares, a red star which promotes violent acts or being caught up in violence one way or another through the subconscious or through the acts of another .
Just one more possible pebble heaped upon a soul that took on a lot in a short period of time
Event - Last Seen
In the Last Seen chart, the sign of Cancer on the Ascendent for this hour, gives the Moon special meaning as the chart's own ruler, and found in the 4th house in Libra the house of endings.
The 3rd house of the primary school and Kathleen�s happy walk to school that day, also included the help of the school crossing guard and a neighbor who said she spoke to her as she walked away to school and was therefore the last person known to speak to her.
The 3rd house shows this activity then, but also shows us more. With Uranus at 12� Virgo, conjunct Pluto at 14� and Mars at 15� we have a line up of potent planets here, ready to snatch and harm a child, in a careful well thought out and methodical way because these planets line up in Virgo, which is seldom haphazard as a sign but thinks ahead of time.
Probably then, this is not a random act, but someone who knew the little girl�s routine and that she would be alone and vulnerable.
The house that shows the vulnerability is the 6th of caregiving ruled by Jupiter found in Taurus in the 11th house of opportunity at 22nd degree of Taurus.
Jupiter is also opposing Neptune in the 5th of the child,hence, fooled the little girl, perhaps it was afterall someone she knew around the school and trusted.
We can see the horror show unfolding as we check the Ruler of the 5th of the child and find that Venus, the ruler is at the MC angle, conjunct to painful Chiron and the Sun itself at 27.53Pisces conjunct the fixed star for misfortune, or Scheat.
North Node conjunct Atropos (death) in the 12th house of imprisonment.
A TransNeptunian hypo. planet or :
Vulcanus in the critical 0 degree of Cancer, square the Sun from the 12th, pointing to
A quick resolve to conclude the deed.
Keyword for Vulcanus : �A Mighty force, energy in the extreme with a compulsive quality to the energy�
So no, I don�t think the family should worry that the child is out there somewhere, I believe she went to heaven shortly after being taken."The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
10-28-2010, 12:55 PM #3Former Member
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Thank you so much Leomoon80
Would you happen to know if this was a man or woman? Do you rule the neighbor out that last talked with her? Why do you think this person kidnapped Kathy? Sorry for all the questions, I just wanted to know. Also do you see her maybe buried under cement or concrete?
Kathleen Shea cold case"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
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Well I do think that you are great.
Thanks so much. I am trying to learn, but there are a lot of things to learn and I am at the beginning.
Ray Frank Gricar Cold Case
Just when I think I know he died by his own hand, I'm back to wondering, "But what If?".....What if he simply relocated?
We really need his time of birth to dig deeper then this , but as promised, here is what I have thus far:
Natal with time unknown:
A hidden love life perhaps, trying to hide from his loved ones after his disappearance all potential remnants of this hidden life? Venus Squares Uranus.
OR, was it trying to hide some type of indiscretions at the workplace?
After all, the hard drive was taken out probably by him from the sound of the LE investigation reveals from his home computer and appears he himself researched this and how to do it.
Tossing it from the Bridge? Someone did it appears.
Did he then take up another life or is he dead via a suicide is the ongoing question never resolved.
I feel very badly for his daughter�.who he supposedly called often and was reportedly close to. The photo on the cold trail link shows how much grief she has undergone and continues to undergo by this not knowing.
It�s a real shame we don�t have the time of his birth as that may help unravel this mystery.
It�s hard to without it. Perhaps impossible to.
Yes, he had Venus in Virgo square Uranus in Gemini, both ruled by Mercury with Mercury at 21Libra.
Mercury also squares Mars and Saturn (2 Malefics)
Transiting Moira (a death asteroid) conjunct his Uranus and Transiting Hades at 22 degrees Gemini conjuncts his Vulcanus at 21.35Gemini, �..perhaps showing us that the Mercury (mindset) was a lost cause from severe depression over something hidden (Moon was in Scorpio on the day he was born, and therefore it is in Detriment and often hides things in their lives) Scorpio is ruled by Mars and Pluto two serious contenders for deep seated issues, hidden agendas
Moon Ephemeris 1945:http://classiclegendbooks.com/ephemeris/1945/oct.shtml
But was this enough to disappear forever over ? Appears so.
Hades transiting Vulcanus? A strength, mighty force to be reckoned with! And Hades
The depth of a deeply buried unpleasant or sordid issue, often a part of life associated with decay, sorrow, waste, illness and want anything crime related, vulgar or crude.
All of these are keywords for Hades.
North Node was transiting at 22Aries, conjunct his natal Hades 23.55Aries on the day he disappeared
note: The chart should say, "Ray" not Roy. I just noticed and it's far too much trouble to go back and redo for one letter.
Event of Last Phone Call:
First we have the Moon Ruling the Ascendent of the last phone call to the Girlfriend.
The Moon takes on special prominance then, and it conjuncts Saturn and the Ascendent, it�s a radical chart.
Vulcanus (the extremes in intensity and strength) is in the 1st house along with Saturn.
Hades (the worse and deep seated regarding illnesses) in the 12th of self-imprisonment, in the 22nd (self undoing degree) is the same degree as the North Node (the fate) as well as Admetos (long held deeply rooted problem) unyielding and immovable are other keywords for this TNP.
The mind was made up.
Mercury squares Pluto.
The 6th house of decisions, has Pluto in house and Jupiter rules . Jupiter found in the 4th
Of �endings� conjunct Zeus (compulsion and drive) conjunct POF same degree as Zeus or 8 Libra � conjunct Vindiamiatrix, the stage was set ahead of time.
The IC angle 4th house of endings, is at the Crisis degree for this phone call 29th and Juno conjuncts the MC
Also in the crisis degree.
Does this chart however, REALLY show a death? Or does it show someone at the end of the line emotionally , mentally and hell bent on a new identify?
I'm leaning towards a suicide but reserve the right to change my mind and perhaps I shall if I can be shown differently astrologically that this is the case. Or of course, through evidence and even his time of birth (most helpful)
We know however, this is a Phone Call Event chart. The last one he supposedly made.
Note: Mars (the physical body) conjuncts Neptune (undermining him) in the house of death with the Ruler of the 8th, and in this case Uranus found in the 9th conjunct fixed star �Skat� (a great misfortune) and leads me to believe it was a great mental and emotional depression he suffered and therefore, ended his own life.
"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
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Thank you so much. I will try to come up with a time of birth. Is there any way that having the live in's birthdate would help?
Some say they think that he might have been murdered. Do you see anything like that? Also could you do a chart on April 13, 2005 when he took the morning off and was seen at Lake Raystown, Hungtingdon. Or a chart when he was last by surveillance coming out of the courthouse at 9:00 p.m. They probably will be more questions as this case has haunted so many people. He was our beloved DA. We would just like to find out what happened to him. He was a very thorough DA and it wasn't in his personality to disappear since he just had about 6 months left to retirement. He loved his daughter dearly and it is unbelievable that he would put his daughter through this since he went through a supposed suicide of his brother.
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Ray Frank Gricar Cold Case"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
Ray Frank Gricar Cold CasePuglover;]Thank you so much. I will try to come up with a time of birth. Is there any way that having the live in's birthdate would help?
Some say they think that he might have been murdered. Do you see anything like that? Also could you do a chart on April 13, 2005 when he took the morning off and was seen at Lake Raystown, Hungtingdon. Or a chart when he was last by surveillance coming out of the courthouse at 9:00 p.m.
Yes, but only with exact dates and exact times and places.
I don't see where the 13th of April however, and seen in Lake Raystown would be of any value 2 days before the disappearance. If I disappeared today , my neighbor could say that they saw me 2 days ago walking to the mailbox for instance.
Perhaps if someone saw him on this day at a particular time, and he seemed agitated or expressed concern about something to that witness , then it may warrant a chart for a look-see.
However, the survailance camera Video at 9:00PM from the courthouse one may be intriguing. What date was this?
Was it the night before he disappeared? Or the 14th?
Do you have a link for it......
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They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
10-29-2010, 03:47 PM #10Former Member
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Leomoon80, thank you so much for all that you do. I know that doing the charts are a lot of work.
I did find a web site pertaining to Ray being on surveillance at the Courthouse in Bellefonte, PA
Police also viewed Centre County courthouse surveillance tape that showed Gricar coming into his office at about 6:19 p.m. and leaving at about 9:07 p.m. April 14, the day before he was reported missing, Dixon said.
4/14/05 Ray going into his office at 6:19 p.m.
Ray seen by surveillance leaving his office at 9:07 p.m.
The next day he disappeared.
Ray Gricar cold case of missing DA
In keeping with the rules of the thread, to keep the responses condensed. This point in time for him appears to say he was despondant. With 11Scorpio Rising when he left the courthouse, conjunct �Crux� the burden to bear and square to Mars on the I/C cusp, it appears that this time may have set a stage for the disappearance the next afternoon.
Neptune is conjunct Mars on the IC cusp (Mars being the ruler of the chart) within one degree and with Chiron in the 3rd, I�d say he was despondant and decided to disappear as the 3rd is the computer and the records as well as his mindset at this time or what he was investigating perhaps here in the courthouse.
Without his time of birth (and then we may start it�s own thread in accordance with the rules), we cannot say more about the mode of exit he arranged for himself.
Anubis (related to suicides) is conjunct Mercury in the 5th, and in the house of ruling decisions, or the 6th, it appears that the NN is conjunct the Sun and Venus is here as well in Aries, in a crisis degree the 29th..
My feeling about this point in time as relates to him, is the Vertex in the 8th of death, is 22nd degree and conjunct Hades within minutes in Gemini, an air sign.
It is the same degree as the North Node (fated occurrence) in the 6th of decisions.
So I feel this is a marker for his death and his decision to complete what he did the following day.
He still may be out there somewhere, as it could conceivably be pointing to the death of an ego self.
Perhaps he decided to be reborn as another��so the time of birth in this case is more crucial then not.
Until we have that and unless it is a verified time , I am disposed to not doing any more guess work on this case.
I can also appreciate how concerned the entire community is, as well the family. They may request their privacy as well in this matter of grieving his loss."The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
for Puglover - Stepbrother's untimely death
This young man was extremely intelligent, probably a higher IQ (Ascendent conjunct Aldebaren, which confers an honor in intelligence) . The Fixed star Aldebaren is also one of 4 Royal Persian stars…and sometimes can work against us as well.
Thus, his mind or Mercury in his natal the symbol of the lower mind, ,
becomes all important as the chart's own Ruler. He had much potential, but depending upon one's own religious and philosophical viewpoints, it appears to me that the weight of the vibrations were too much for him to bear in this lifetime to overcome them.
The overall strength here, is lessened for him because Mercury is square Jupiter more importantly however, it's not this square that really does overcompensates with emotional angst for him, as Jupiter is in Pisces a sign known for much emotion,
But rather the true trouble I see, was his Mercury Quincunx (a health aspect) to the 6th house Neptune (see the broken green lines) linking Neptune to Mercury at the Ascendent and then over to the Moon in the 7th house of others.
This suggests to me that his mind was emotionally plagued in some fashion, perhaps unbeknownst to his family he may have kept the upset to himself.
Often people will do this.
A Yod (called the finger of god) with the focal point of expenditure for the energy lying in the Apex of Mercury says his emotions (the Moon) were getting the best of him and he simply did not have a way to cope with them because Neptune in the 6th house of our health, was greatly afflicted at his birth making it a potentially organic problem or some undiagnosed mental issues with Jupiter exaggerating the problems for him.
Using this type of chart we can see various and complicated formations that he was born to examining the aspects the various planets make to each other.
For instance, he had a Kite formation which connected the energies of Jupiter in the 10th or public house in Pisces, with Mars (his physical body) in the 12th or hidden house,
We often call the 12th house, the house of imprisonment because the energies don't really operate well here to our advantage, but often seem to hold us prisoner to them.
The other planets involved in this Kite you can see visually on the chart, are the Moon in the 8th house of obsessions, and can easily point to death and sexual overtones here, we call it the house of "other's assets" because it often involves others (such as being obsessed over others, or over death issues, or even sexual abuse can have a signature from this axis of the 2nd house to the 8th house, called the Axis of Desire.
There may have even been in his natal chart, what is called a Quindecile between
Pluto and Lachesis, ….and both of these (one a planet, one an asteroid) have to do with death. His own Pluto was in his 4th house of home life, early foundation of his life. Pluto was adversely
Square to Mercury and opposing Jupiter, there may have been a silent brooding that no one was aware of unless the subtle part of his personality was known to some. Pluto squared his ASC place, and is called the planet of transformation and destruction for a reason. This is an extremely potent position for overcoming in one lifetime these energies.
Again, having Mars in the 12th, has not a lot of place to go when this brooding occurs, as Mars in Taurus is in Detriment, meaning the same thing, ….not able to really efficiently effuse the energy within. Becoming perhaps a cauldron of emotion he simply cannot get out easily or exhibit to others.
I would see the Mars placement in his natal chart as energy that was extremely detrimental and hard for him to overcome in this lifetime.
We are all born differently as you know, and not all of us have the same capabilty to defend ourselves or even to tell others what our problems are and therefore seek help in a successful way.
I believe this was his problem.
Another Royal Persian star was Regulus in his natal but it was conjunct to the erratic and unpredictable planet Uranus. This was then what we call a natal promise to him. Meaning it would eventually come to bear that he would need to adjust to what Regulus promises or fall under it's weight.
Most adjust……but for him, the 6th house planets and the formations made, simply made the weight too much to bear.
When the Tertiary minor progressions pushed Uranus at 9Virgo45minutes over his natal
Pluto the worse occurred and that internal explosion could not allay the volcanic eruption he must have felt.
Perhaps the trigger was the car wreck?………Perhaps it was feeling he could not keep up and couldn't take the consequences of more going wrong in his life.
I see a brooding young man, intelligent but yet imprisoned by his own internal emotions which worked against him. With Antares (the red star) on his DC cusp opposing his Ascendent and the planets there, he took instead the path of least resistance to end his suffering.
His 8th house cusp is ruled by Saturn, and [B]Saturn conjuncts the MC
We can see that all angles are compromised by critical stars, an afflicted the MC ….and these too add up to the natal promises of troubling times.
I haven't yet begun to really disassemble this chart and it's potentiality, (Progressions, Parans – Morinous pre-natal etc.) but give you this effort here and now as the natal promises look to me,
as a reassurance that thus far, it's leaning heavily as I'm saying, to his ending of his own life prematurely from all I can see.
My feeling from the natal chart and it's formations made, including the Mystic Rectangle, the Kite, the Yod, etc. is that the energies he had to work with, were afflicted by some organic or undiagnosed mental issues that needed quite a bit of help, but he was unable to ask or tell anyone about it.
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They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
Death Event of Stepbrother
In the event chart, we can see the death by following the green broken lines (the Yod)
Between the planet Neptune (in the 10th house) conjunct to the Black Moon Lilith, always a shadow for us to contend with, and in this case, showing again, his mental
problems , as the Black Moon overshadows Neptune here., linking this place then to the 8th house of Death, and Pluto.
Connecting Pluto and Neptune, the green broken line of the Yod (finger of god as it�s termed)
Goes to the Sun (the death event) conjunct Chiron (the inner wound)
Part of Fortune conjuncts Moira and opposes Uranus (the separation of the body to the spirit and separating from the earth plane�.and then Part of Fortune also squares the Ascendent, (the physical as he was known to the family)
The event itself is of immense tragedy as shown by the fixed star Algol, the worse star in the heavens�the Chinese dubbed �piled up corpses��.to show the immensity of the harm that this star potentially can inflict.
This takes place in the 3rd house of the lower mind, and the 6th house of decision making, shows us Anubis the suicide asteroid, the decision to leave this plane of suffering.
Mercury conjuncts the 4th house cusp exact orb, so this is telling us it was his own decision and mental mindset that decided to take this route.
Mars in the house of commitments and conjunct Pallas Athena, suggests it was a premeditated act and not spontaneous.
Saturn the planet of woe, timing and karma, conjuncts the cusp of the 8th, the house of death.
"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
11-03-2010, 02:31 AM #14Former Member
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Thank you so much Leomoon80, I learned so much. He was a young man that tried to please everyone. He was a crippled child and used a brace and cane when he was little till about high school. He eventually overcame that and walked as well as a healthy person would. His death was really horrific. Once again thanks so much.
We see Mars is the Ruler of his 6th House of health, and as I said, find Mars in the 12th house of self-imprisonment and in "Detriment" in Taurus.
Thus the physical condition was immensely compromised, and added to his decision for certain, to not prolong the suffering here.
I'm so sorry for the immense loss you all must continue to feel.
Time is like that,...........in that sometimes, it's as if no time at all passed when it comes to pivotal moments in our lives.
I know, I live it too.
Leomoon"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
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