text: [[quoteright:347:[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/907547c7cfbb5f0b1ec559b7230f5310.jpg]]]][[caption-width-right:347:The small text in the center says it all. [[note]][[http://manapsart.deviantart.com/art/Plumber-s-Dilemma-181579785 Image]] by [[http://michaelmayne.deviantart.com/ Michael Mayne]] on Website/DeviantArt]][[/note]]----* Near the end of ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireII'', you're asked to sacrifice one of your party members in order to get the ultimate dragon power. [[spoiler: It's a SecretTestOfCharacter - you pass by refusing to sacrifice any of them.]]* ''VideoGame/TheGranstreamSaga'' makes the player suffer through a particularly sadistic version of the classic Sadistic Choice. In order to power up your MacGuffin enough to kill the final BigBad, you have to kill one of your two love interests and let it [[DeaderThanDead consume her soul]]. And, sadly, the game [[ButThouMust doesn't let you]] TakeAThirdOption and try to fight without sacrificing either one.** It's supposed to be the one Eon feels the most for, since the weapon's power is equal to the feelings invested in it.* In ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance'', the player is offered by Mephisto the choice between freeing [[Comicbook/XMen Jean Grey or Nightcrawler]] from his realm. The one chosen is saved while the other is dropped into an energy vortex, [[spoiler: and later his/her soul becomes brainwashed by Mephisto and [[DualBoss aids him]] in the boss battle following the choice. S/he pulls a HeroicSacrifice when you defeat the devil afterwards]]. Bonus points if you have the 360 DLC which includes, yes, Nightcrawler as a playable character.** There's even an easter egg in the epilogue scene, [[spoiler: if the player saves Jean over Nightcrawler. Mystique becomes overcome with grief over her son's death and lashes out by assassinating Professor Xavier]]. There's a scene where [[spoiler: the X-Men are attending Xavier's funeral, and one of them is f*** ing NIGHTCRAWLER!]]** If you save Nightcrawler over Jean Grey, then in the epilogue [[spoiler:Jean Grey comes back as The Phoenix and destroys the world. [[DownerEnding You can't win!]] [[SurvivorGuilt The only difference is that Nightcrawler hates you for choosing him over Jean.]] Jean Grey instantly forgives you, assuring you that YouDidTheRightThing. [[BitchInSheepsClothing The bitch.]] ]]** And heaven forbid a player thinks intelligently and try to open both of the cages at once using UA's co-op mode. You will get both bad endings. Both characters "Survived", in that they whined in the safe house. But you will get both of their epilogues together.** If one has Magneto in their party when they have to make a choice, good ol' [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 Maggy]] TakesAThirdOption and uses his powers to break the locks on both cages. Choice averted. Players rejoice.* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', the villain Xaldin makes Beast (from [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney's]] ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'') decide whether he wants to save Belle or the Magic Rose that can change him back. [[spoiler:Beast chooses Belle, but then [[DefiedTrope Belle sucker elbows Xaldin, saving both herself and the rose]].]]** In ''358/2 Days,'' [[spoiler: Saïx tells Axel he must choose which of his friends will survive - Roxas, or Xion.]] As one might expect, he does everything he can to TakeAThirdOption. [[spoiler: It backfires, and he ends up losing ''both'' instead. Ouch.]]*** Not so much a Sadistic Choice as being realistic: [[spoiler: It turns out Xion's existence as an imperfect clone of sorts means she's leeching power from Roxas in order to survive. And the balance is unsustainable, which isn't helped by the fact that Axel has, well before this point, ''killed'' the guy who made her. Saïx is being blunt - Axel can try to delay the inevitable, but at some point, Xion will end up draining Roxas to death if one of them doesn't get killed. Though, it ''still'' doesn't help that no one other than Axel actually cares if one of them dies.]] It's the fact that he makes an effort to bury the knowledge - which one of them finds, and which makes the other one realize how expendable they're being treated, that [[spoiler:makes them both leave.]]* A minor variant in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', where Petey Piranha kidnaps both Princesses [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Peach]] and [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Zelda]]. Franchise/{{Kirby}} (or rather, the player) can only save one princess; the other gets nabbed by [[VideoGame/WarioWare Wario]]. This subverts [[TakeAThirdOption heroic attempts to break them both out]] in that, while it is theoretically possible to deplete both cages' life bars by attacking Petey Piranha's head, the game picks a princess for you if this is the case. [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard Nice try, hero]]. [[spoiler:Both end up fine near the end anyways.]]* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', before the events of the game, Zant gives Zelda the choice of surrendering to him or killing her along with all of Hyrule. Zelda decides to surrender.* At least OnceAnEpisode in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''.** Episode 1: You have to choose whether to save either [[spoiler:Carley or Doug.]]** Episode 2: [[spoiler:First, you have to choose between cutting off the teacher's leg or leaving him in the bear trap for the walkers. Second, when trapped in the meat locker, Larry has a heart attack and stops breathing. Since anyone who dies with an intact brain stem becomes a walker, you have the choice of holding back Lilly from trying to revive him so Kenny can crush Larry's head with a salt lick, or trying (unsuccessfully) to revive him. Another one comes just after that, when you have to choose whether or not to spare the St. John brothers.]]*** Worse is that [[spoiler: Larry's revival is not unsuccessful]] because you can't get his heart going again; in fact, if the player does CPR fast enough he takes a very deep breath...[[spoiler: Before Kenny drops a salt lick on his head anyway.]] ** Episode 3: [[spoiler:Duck gets infected. You either kill him yourself or make Kenny, [[AdultFear his father]], do it.]] Later, you have to choose whether to help Omid or Christa onto the train first, but it's subverted since whoever you don't help catches up anyways.** Episode 4: [[spoiler:Ben, who's been TheLoad for almost the entire season, falls off the balcony in Crawford's belltower. You have to either let him go, fulfilling his DeathSeeker mentalities, or save him.]]** Episode 5: [[spoiler: When Lee gets infected, you have to choose whether or not to cut off his arm to slow the infection. At the end of the episode, you either let Clementine shoot you when you're about to succumb to the infection/blood loss, or just tell her to leave you for dead.]]** The trend continues into Season 2. [[spoiler:The final choice of episode 1 involves risking saving either Pete or his nephew Nick. In a mild subversion, Nick will survive even if you pick Pete, and Pete is killed no matter your choice.]]** The ending of the fifth and final episode is determined by a very dark SadisticChoice: [[spoiler:you're forced into a position where you have to kill either Kenny or Jane. You're either stuck with a man who very obviously has completely lost his grip on his sanity, and just brutally murdered someone in front of you, or a woman who would endanger a baby's life just to prove that said man was going crazy. Or you can kill one and leave the other, which results in perhaps one of the cruelest cases of NoEnding in any video game ever. '''There are no other options'''.]]** In Vince's chapter of the ''400 Days'' DLC, [[spoiler:you're chained up to a [[TheSpock rational]] and [[IRegretNothing unapologetic]] [[WhiteCollarCrime white-collar]] ConMan, and a [[NobleDemon humanistic]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorseful]] rapist. Walkers surround the bus and a shotgun lands in your lap. You can escape with one of them, but it means blowing the foot off the other guy and leaving him to his fate. The question is, which one do you escape with and which one do you sacrifice?]]** An especially cruel example happens near the end of Season 3. [[spoiler: The final choice of Episode 4 has you begging the BigBad, [[BitchInSheepsClothing Joan]], to spare one of your friends. You're forced to choose between Tripp, a friend who's been with you since the start that you may or may not have recently fallen out with, or Ava, a new ally who's been nothing but helpful to you and Clementine. What the player probably doesn't know is that [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo whoever you pick dies]], and the other isn't too happy that you'd be willing to sacrifice them.]]* ''VideoGame/TelltalesGameOfThrones'' has ''dozens'' of these, but the most notable ones from each episode are:** Episode 1: [[spoiler: As Ethan, the new Lord of House Forrester, you must decide how to deal with a thieving deserter. You can send him to the Wall, where he will face a life of hard work, an early death and likely never see his family again, chop off three of his fingers, which you must ether do yourself or ask your sentinel to do for you, or set him free, which angers the people demanding justice and risks making you look like a weak ruler.]]** Episode 2: [[spoiler: Lord Whitehill, the man partially responsible for the death of Rodrik's brother Ethan, is holding Rodrik's other brother Ryon captive to prevent the Forresters from acting out against him. He agrees to let Ryon attend Ethan and his father's joint funeral on one condition: Rodrik must kneel and kiss his ring. This is worse than it sounds, as Rodrik is in front of his love interest Eleana whom he is desperately trying to keep on good terms with, as well as a number of other people who will likely lose respect for him as a leader if he does so. If you agree to kiss the ring Eleana berates you for submitting, while if you refuse Rodrik's mother is upset as she won't get to see her son.]]** Episode 3: [[spoiler: Asher, along with his uncle Malcolm and best friend Beskha, is fighting a massive dragon when he is put into the position of saving one at the cost of the other. Whoever you chose not to save will, surprisingly enough, survive, albeit with a nasty burn wound courtesy of dragon fire. It still counts as a SadisticChoice as the player is led to believe that their choice will result in the death of one of the two, and the character not chosen to be saved will berate Asher for this afterwards.]]** Episode 4: [[spoiler: Beshka, a former slave, finally finds her cruel master after many years and understandably wants revenge. However, she and Asher promised Daenerys that they would not kill any of the masters as it would take justice away from the hands of the current slaves. If you allow Beshka to kill him Daenerys refuses to aid you, but if you stop Beshka she is incredibly angry at being denied her own justice.]]** Episode 5: [[spoiler: Having only just reunited after a number of years apart, Rodrik and Asher are suddenly ambushed by a massive amount of Whitehill soldiers. It is clear that they must flee, but the Whitehills have sabotaged the portcullis meaning that, unless one person is holding it open, it will stay closed. The player is then forced to decide which brother will stay behind and hold open the portcullis, and which will get to escape. The brother left behind [[LastStand puts up a good fight but is hopelessly overwhelmed by sheer numbers]], and dies [[HeroicSacrifice giving his allies time to flee.]]]]** Episode 6: [[spoiler: Mira is finally arrested for the death of the Lannister guard back in Episode 2, and is awaiting execution when the man who sent the guard to kill her and unfairly got her arrested comes into her cell. He presents Mira with a proposition: he will frame Mira's close ally Tom for the murder and get her acquitted if she will marry him, allowing him to claim right over her family name, land and all that the Forresters own. Otherwise, she will face death on the chopping block. If you accept his offer Tom's head will roll, but if you reject it, Mira's will.]] * In ''VideoGame/RadiataStories'' the major branching off point is whether or not the human hero joins the girl and the forces of non-humanity, or stays with humans. This results in two MultipleEndings, one where humanity survives but the girl dies; or humanity is replaced by elves and other creatures but the guy gets to be with the girl.* In the final episode of ''Series/DesperateHousewives: [[LicensedGame The Game]]'', [[spoiler: your mobster ex-boyfriend gives you a gun and orders you to shoot either your husband or your ''other'' ex-boyfriend (long story). Whether you shoot your husband, ex-boyfriend or just [[TakeAThirdOption take the very obvious third option]] and shoot the gangster, the end result is the same - the gun wasn't loaded, he was just testing you. That's almost as sadistic as the bad writing [[IdiotBall enforced on you]] the entire game.]]* ''Franchise/MassEffect''** ''VideoGame/MassEffect1'':*** During the attack on Virmire, [[spoiler: you are given the choice between going to reinforce positions held by two of your officers: Lieutenant Kaidan Alenko and Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams.]] As the player is on a strict time limit to the detonation of a massive nuke, there is no time to TakeAThirdOption, and the one you do not choose to help will die. Massive indecision follows, especially if [[spoiler:your character is involved in a RomanticSidequest with one of them]].*** Then, shortly before the endgame, you are asked to chose whether to [[spoiler:call the Systems Alliance ships into the battle in time to save the ''Destiny Ascension,'' the asari flagship which the Citadel Council is currently on board, or have the Alliance ships hold back and wait for the best opportunity to attack Sovereign]]. This one isn't quite as sadistic to the player, since [[spoiler:Sovereign gets defeated either way, making it a choice between sacrificing either a lot of faceless Alliance soldiers or the Council and a lot of faceless asari]]. If you become a complete Renegade, you can decide to [[spoiler:sacrifice the Council, then ''[[ManipulativeBastard explicitly state you wanted them dead specifically to get rid of them so humans could become the new Council]]. Even Captain Anderson expresses utter shock, though Ambassador Udina is just fine and dandy with it. Utterly chilling.]]*** In the "Bring Down the Sky" DLC, at the end the player must choose between [[spoiler: letting the terrorist mastermind behind the attempted ColonyDrop go free to save the hostages, knowing that he will probably kill more innocents later, or letting the hostages get killed in order to stop him permanently.]] Once again, there's no [[TakeAThirdOption third option]]. [[spoiler:As it turns out, however, in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' having let Balak escape means you can recruit the remnants of the batarian military as war assets, because after the Reapers hit the batarians first in the invasion Balak ended up being [[YouAreInCommandNow the highest-ranking officer left alive]].]]** ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'':*** [[spoiler:Letting Kasumi keep the Greybox]] in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' ''seems'' like an easy decision. After all, [[spoiler:you and her went through hell to get it back, and its all she has left of her murdered boyfriend]]. Then you learn that [[spoiler:the data the box contains would make ''the entire galaxy'' turn against humanity in less than a heartbeat if it ever got out.]] Subverted in Mass Effect 3 when [[spoiler:she reconstructs the data anyways, meaning all that she lost were the last bits of Keiji within it.]]*** In a sidequest in ''Mass Effect 2'', you have two missiles being launched at a city and the spaceport next to the city. You only have the codes to stop one. Do you destroy the spaceport, cutting off the city from the outside world, or do you destroy the city, killing thousands of people in order to keep a valuable asset intact? This one presents an interesting twist: Without the spaceport the colony can't be maintained at all. It's explicitly stated that if you choose to save the city, the entire colony will have to be abandoned. This actually makes it a very interesting scenario because the stakes are so different in scale i.e. certain death of hundreds or thousands of civilians (the game is inconsistent about which one it is), against the endangerment of the entire colony (populous colonies can count millions of people).*** Also in [=ME2=], there are two separate instances in which Shepard must mediate an argument between a pair of squad members: Miranda and Jack in one instance, and Tali and [[spoiler:Legion]] in the other. If Shepard hasn't accumulated enough Paragon or Renegade points to talk both sides down, s/he will be forced to chose to support one at the cost of the other's loyalty... which can lead to the death of the non-loyal squad member during the Suicide Mission. ** ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'':*** There are at least two Sadistic Choices in the main mission string alone. [[spoiler: Both have [[TakeAThirdOption third options]], but they each require you to have made ''very'' specific choices in [[OldSaveBonus the past two games]] - and there is ''no'' way for fan-favorites Wrex and Mordin to both come out alive. For players without an import, the third option is not available and the other two options are indeed sadistic.]]*** The Quarian-Geth War arc has two of them. Fairly early on you have to decide whether to save Admiral Zaal'Koris or the squad of soldiers he's been separated from. He wants you to choose TheMenFirst. [[spoiler:As it turns out, however, saving Zaal'Koris is critical to getting the GoldenEnding, since the Civilian Fleet which he commands becomes more panicky without him.]]\\\\Then at the end of the arc, the quarians open fire on the geth while Legion is [[spoiler:uploading Reaper-written code to them that will allow every individual geth program to become sapient]], and Shepard must choose whether to save the geth or the quarians. [[spoiler:The GoldenEnding has Shepard convincing the quarians to cease fire, letting the geth achieve sapience and rejoining the quarians as their allies.]]*** The ending of the third game also qualifies to an extent. [[spoiler:Shepard has to choose between destroying all synthetic life, taking control of the Reapers, or melding organic and synthetic life. The first involves murdering the geth [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential (assuming the player didn't already do that)]] and a popular squad mate, does more harm to galactic infrastructure than the other endings, and leaves open the possibility of future wars between organics and synthetics; on the bright side, it's the only ending in which Shepard can survive as an organic. The second results in [[AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Shepard giving up their humanity in order to take control of the Reapers]], essentially giving Shepard indefinite control of the galaxy. The third is advertised by the Catalyst as the "ideal" ending; it kills Shepard, and subverts the free will of the affected species in a way that bothers many players, but it at least resolves the organic-synthetic conflict in a fairly durable way. There's also the [[TakeAThirdOption Refuse ending]]: the Reapers eventually get defeated in a subsequent cycle, but [[DownerEnding the current harvest succeeds, every sentient being from the current cycle dies.]] ]]* In ''VideoGame/LostMagic'', Diva of the Twilight [[spoiler:holds her own sister Trista hostage for Issac's wand, which is one of the {{MacGuffin}}s. And no, you don't get a third option]]. Due to the game's morals, [[spoiler:Issac will [[FaceHeelTurn turn evil]] and become Diva's subordinate if you decide to hold onto the wand.]]** Further spoilers ahoy: [[spoiler:You still have the wand yourself. But on the evil path, you [[ButThouMust have to kill off the other sages]].]] When you [[spoiler:defeat the last one, if you choose to finish off said sage, you get the BadEnding where Diva kills Issac. Even if you don't, you still will get a DownerEnding.]]* In the final case of ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyJusticeForAll'', [[spoiler:after you learn that your client Matt Engarde was the one who ordered assassin Shelly de Killer to kill Juan Corrida, you are, towards the end of the final day of the case, forced to decide the verdict of the trial. Oh, and your sidekick Maya is being held hostage by de Killer, and the only way he will release her is if you get a Not Guilty verdict for Engarde. But if you do that, an innocent woman will almost assuredly be convicted in his place. The way to win is to TakeAThirdOption and convince de Killer over the phone to abandon his contract with Engarde, freeing Maya and letting you give Engarde his justly-deserved Guilty verdict. In the process, Engarde gets his own unpleasant choice--go free and get killed by de Killer, or plead guilty to murder.]]** The thing is, before you ''can'' TakeAThirdOption, [[spoiler:you have to choose, at two points, which option you'd go with. In the first instance, the judge is willing to declare a verdict on the spot, and you're given the option to either encourage him, or prolong the trial. However, regardless of your decision, [[ButThouMust Phoenix cannot bring himself to get the verdict announced, and he will prolong the trial instead]]. In the second instance, you're asked to either declare your client "Guilty" or "Not Guilty", but Franzieska barges into the courtroom before Phoenix can go through with either choice. If you manage to successfully take the third option afterward, you're explicitly told that the second choice [[WhatYouAreInTheDark was really about the kind of person you were]].]]** CrowningMomentOfFunny ''and'' CrowningMomentOfAwesome at the same time if you [[spoiler:convince the judge that Engarde is innocent after all of that plays out. Convincing de Killer to end his contract with Engarde involves proving to de Killer that Engarde was going to screw him over later on... ''in the courtroom''. Nearly everyone in the room realizes the subtext of what Phoenix and de Killer are talking about, and de Killer pretty openly promises to kill Engarde for it the moment Engarde is alone, while also informing the police of his (hostage's) location. If you convince the judge that it's best for Engarde to go free after this, Engarde ''freaks out'' and ''demands'' to be put in jail.]] ''Very'' satisfying.* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' gives you a choice of two paths at the end of the game: [[spoiler: You can either choose to participate in a mission with Dimitri, the Russian crook who screwed you over earlier in the game and who you've been trying to kill up to this point, or not participate in the mission and instead go and kill Dimitri. If you choose to kill Dimitri, the mob boss who set up the mission for the both of you will show up at Roman's wedding and kill Niko's love interest, Kate. If you choose to do the mission, Dimitri will send a hitman to the wedding who will kill Niko's cousin and best friend, Roman. Ironically, it was Kate who advised you to go kill Dimitri, while it was Roman who advised you to participate on the mission with him.]]** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' does something similar with its final mission: [[spoiler:As Franklin, you're given the choice either to kill Trevor and clear yourself with Steve Haines and the FIB, or kill Michael and clear yourself with Devon Weston, a multi-millionaire with strong ties to the private militia Merryweather.]] Unlike ''IV'', however, [[spoiler:you can also TakeAThirdOption which results in [[GoldenEnding the three protagonists killing all of the main antagonists of the game and walking away scot-free]].]]* Franchise/{{Fable}}** ''Videogame/FableII'' ends with you having to make one of three choices: [[spoiler: use the power of the Spire to resurrect everyone in your family Lucien killed -- your husband/wife, your kids, your dog, even your long-dead sister comes back for a while -- or use it to resurrect the thousands that Lucien killed to power up the Spire. Or you can choose to take 1,000,000 gold, but that's both a major dick move and outside the bounds of this trope. It's not ''quite'' a SadisticChoice, as under normal circumstances all of these people would stay dead, but still a good source of angst if you're looking for one.]]** The money one is useless, except for the achievement and seeing all the endings (at this point, one should have an amble supply of money). The best choice is "Love", as that is the middle one and more importantly, allows one to retain the dog which is useful for finishing the Archaeologist quest (which, if one is doing, should mean something as even if you know exactly where everything is, it is still time consuming). The sadistic choice is the one with the Shadow Court, where you have to choose to curse yourself or an innocent girl. While it has little effect on the game, it would be a rather difficult choice in real life (although, in real life, rapidly aging oneself when one is the only one who can save the world would be foolish).** When [[spoiler:you must sacrifice either yourself or a young woman you've never met to a fate of losing all of your youth and gaining glowing red eyes.]]** ''Videogame/FableIII'' gives you one in the first scene: After asking your [[JerkAss older brother]], King Logan, to spare the protesting peasants, he punishes you by [[spoiler: letting you choose whether he executes your childhood sweetheart or the leaders of the peasants]]. What's that? You want a [[TakeAThirdOption third option?]] Sure. You can choose to do nothing, and Logan kills all of them.** When you finally take Logan down, [[spoiler: you find out [[VillainHasAPoint he actually had a valid reason for being a tyrant]] - he had to make money to fight [[GreaterScopeVillain the Darkness.]] This leads to another rather unpleasant choice, you can A) keep the promises you made to everyone (in which case many of them will be slaughtered when it comes) or B), break them, and save humanity at the cost of becoming as bad as Logan was. There is a third option, but it's difficult and requires a ''lot'' of planning, and this is to buy ''every'' piece of property you can, and delay the FinalBattle until you have enough money from rent to pay the expenses required to fight the Darkness personally. (Even then, the rather FamilyUnfriendlyAesop is that only those with the money to do so can truly save humanity, which is true more often than not).]]* In the Heaven's Feel arc of ''[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/Stay Night]]'', you have to choose between [[spoiler: stopping Tohsaka to save the one you love, Sakura, who will inevitably go on a killing rampage, or killing said love and upholding your borrowed ideal.]]** Regrettably, choosing to kill her only leads to a bad end - right after getting told that what would happen next was probably enough for it's own route. * In the ''FireEmblem'' series: ** ''FireEmblem Shadow Dragon'' for the DS (Marth's game) in one of the early chapters the player has to choose one character to stay behind as decoy, thereby losing the character** ''FireEmblem Radiant Dawn'' has a rather gripping one near the end of Part 3. [[spoiler: Just as Micaiah is about to give the order to fire on the Apostle, Tibarn swoops in and hangs her BodyguardCrush Sothe over a cliff and gives her an ultimatum: cease fire and retreat or Sothe dies. Micaiah can't retreat however, since it would effectively mean everybody in Daein would die due to the bloodpact. Unable to find a third option, Michiah is helpless as she watches Sothe get thrown over the cliff. Micaiah promptly has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone, until it is revealed to have been a bluff and she calls for a retreat.]]** ''FireEmblem Awakening'' has one in Chapter [[spoiler: 9]]. [[spoiler: Chrom must choose between giving [[AxCrazy King Gangrel]] the Fire Emblem, or allowing him to execute Chrom's sister, Emmeryn. However, the [[TakeAThirdOption choice turns out to be irrelevant]]; either way, Emmeryn will [[HeroicSuicide sacrifice herself]] via willingly throwing herself off the cliff she was supposed to be pushed from by Gangrel, allowing Chrom a chance to escape with the Fire Emblem in hand.]]*** This seems to be a theme in the game, as there are several times where you have to decide one thing or the other, but it usually doesn't have any impact on the story with what you choose, with something else conveniently choosing for you.*** In the FinalBattle, Naga presents a choice: if Chrom strikes the final blow to Grima, the Fallen Dragon will be resealed but will eventually be waken up in a millenia. [[spoiler:If the Avatar does it, he/she and Grima will be destroyed forever because the Avatar and Grima are technically one and the same. The Avatar ''does'' ultimately survive in the end, but nobody knows that will be the case when the decision is made.]]*** Lucina has one [[spoiler: ''if'' she is either the Avatar's daughter or wife. To keep the Avatar from coming under Validar's control and murdering Chrom, she has to kill the Avatar first, but doing so means killing her mother or lover. In the end, she is unable to go through with it, even if it means putting her father in danger. And note it only applied in those two circumstances; if they're not related at all or if they're only in-laws or uncle and niece, she'll have no qualms about killing him/her.]] ** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' has one smack dab near the beginning which changes the entire story depending what you pick. The protagonist, Corrin must choose between siding with their blood relatives, the Royal family from the kingdom of [[{{Wutai}} Hoshido]], or the foster family that raised them from birth, the royal family of [[TheEmpire Nohr]]. To compound things, both sides are decent people that love the protagonist very much and '''Corrin can't choose both sides.''' No matter which side you pick, the other side will label you a traitor. There's a [[TakeAThirdOption third path]] where Corrin sides with neither.*** This choice is spoofed in a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMvgKqMWAlg trailer]] where he's presented with the first three options... Then suddenly a ''fourth option'' appears and Corrin chooses that. The choice? To take part in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' of course! Both royal families are baffled and confused at first, but this gives way to amazement as he ([[PurelyAestheticGender and she]]) display their battling prowess in the Smash Bros. ring.*** The protagonist is faced with a string of Sadistic Choices throughout ''Conquest'', as Garon tasks them with committing a number of heinous actions in order to secure Nohr's victory over Hoshido under punishment of death. Near the game's climax, [[spoiler:after defeating Ryoma in combat, Garon tasks the protagonist with executing him. Ryoma saves them from certain death from refusing the order by committing a [[HeroicSuicide Heroic]] {{Seppuku}}.]]* A slightly different spin on this occurs in ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty: World at War'' during the Soviet campaign level ''Eviction''. After being ordered to kill wounded Germans crawling on the ground in the streets of Berlin, you and your squadmates stumble upon three unarmed German soldiers cornered in a subway entrance. Your Sergeant gives you the choice of gunning them down yourself or letting your vengeful Red Army comrades throw Molotovs at them.** Later in that same game, a more traditional SadisticChoice occurs when Sergeant Roebuck and Private Polonsky are attacked by a trio of Japanese soldiers pretending to surrender. It's impossible to save both as shooting one set of soldiers attacking one member of the duo causes the other group to succeed in their suicidal attack on the other. This causes the surviving NPC to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge when the time comes to HoldTheLine.** ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2'' offers another one in Farid's playable segment, which ends with the choice to either shoot Mike Harper to maintain his cover, or try to take out the BigBad Menendez right there. [[spoiler:Shoot Harper and you obviously lose him for the rest of the game, and Farid is [[HeroicBSOD visibly shaken by the experience]]. Try to shoot Menendez, though, and things are even worse - not only does your attempt to kill him fail, but now Chloe Lynch, whose survival is necessary for the GoldenEnding, will also die in the next mission, since Farid will not be there to protect her.]]* Rare example not offered to the story's hero: Torn in ''VideoGame/JakIIRenegade'' has to make a [[FriendOrIdolDecision Love Interest or Underground Movement Decision]]. He chooses Ashelin over the Underground, and as a result Praxis gets his hands on the Precursor Stone.* ''VideoGame/InFAMOUS'': Kessler pulls this on Cole. Cole is given the choice to save six doctors, or save Trish, his girlfriend. The doctors are more relevant in context, because the setting is a city under quarantine due to disease, and the quarantine has been causing basic social services to fail while gang violence escalates to the point of insanity. [[spoiler: If Cole goes for the doctors, Trish dies. But there is a twist if you go for Trish instead; the choice is rigged and Trish will be a decoy, with the real Trish hidden with the doctors Cole has chosen not to save.]] Notable for two reasons: [[spoiler: First, the hero doesn't get to TakeAThirdOption, and second, it's actually a subversion. Kessler isn't doing it because he's a sadist, he's doing it because his ultimate goal is to harden Cole against emotional trauma earlier in his life than he would be otherwise.]]** It comes up again in the sequel: [[spoiler: In the end, you have the choice to either defeat the Beast and in the process kill all Conduits, including Cole, Nix, and Kuo... or side with the Beast to save the Conduits at the expense of Humanity, including your friend Zeke. And no, there's still no [[TakeAThirdOption Third Option]] -- you either wipe out humanity to save yourself and those like you while turning your back on your human friends, or sacrifice yourself and some of your closest companions to save humanity. And yes, they ''are'' KilledOffForReal.]]* The main plot of ''VideoGame/WildArms1'' is kicked off by one of these. The heroes have to either give the demons the [[MacGuffin Tear Drop]], or allow the demons to destroy Adelhyde. They're forced to do the former.* In ''VideoGame/QuestForGloryV'', the hero will venture into Hades at one point. [[spoiler:At the end of the level, he'll be given the choice to resurrect someone implied to be closest to his heart: Katrina, the vampire who died for him, or Erana, whom he forged a spiritual bond with. Both women are in love with him and he can only bring one of them back to life]].** [[spoiler:You can choose to save neither, but that doesn't really count, does it?]]* Sith in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' are fond of this. One of them would torture your LoveInterest Bastila (if you play male) or Carth (if you play female) to extract vital information from you. Another one subjects you and one other guy to a sick game: if you answer some questions wrong, he Force-electrocutes you, but if you answer right, he Force-electrocutes the other guy! In the latter case, it's only this trope from point of view of a heroic PlayerCharacter, as the whole point is that a true Sith, which he thinks you're aspiring to be, would always make the sadistic-towards-someone-else choice. One of the ways out is to TakeAThirdOption and [[spoiler: team up with the other guy to kill your tormentor]].* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''? Well, it's Creator/BioWare again, so they're going to load it on you. ** Imperial Agent: Do you stop the terrorist from killing thousands while letting the one who is ''behind'' said terrorist go free? Do you stop the guy behind the terrorist and let those thousands die? There is the third option of ''joining'' the guy. [[spoiler: and a way to subvert this and TakeAThirdOption, but only if you play your cards ''exactly'' right]].** Republic Trooper: You have 300 Republic prisoners of war in one area of a damaged space station and your ally (and, for male Troopers, minor love interest) Sgt. Jaxo in another. Saving the prisoners will mean [[ThrownOutTheAirlock venting the area Jaxo is located in to space]]. Worse, is she's begging you over the com to spare her life.** ''Knights Of The Eternal Throne'': AxCrazy bitch Vaylin is headed for your party, but said party is split. [[MagnificentBastard Valkorian]] says you can choose which one of your party you rescue [[spoiler: (either Vette or Torian, both fan favorites)]], and the other ''is'' going to be KilledOffForReal* ''FarCry 2'' contains such a scenario, the player character receives word that one of the factions in the civil war plans to wipe out a bunch of uncooperative civilians and his fellow foreign mercenary friends, and only has enough time to get to one to assist in defending. Ultimately though [[spoiler: it doesn't matter which option one chooses, the outcome is the same either way.]]* ''VideoGame/SilentHill3'' has a sadistic choice that the WordOfGod has admitted to have been purposely worded that way to make the player uncomfortable. A woman of the Order confesses to Heather and begs for forgiveness. Remaining silent makes you feel like you did something wrong, but forgiving the woman gives you a tremendous number of Dark Points (and is what most people do in order to gain the Bad ending). ** ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'' offers a different variation of the sadistic choice; at one point in time, you are given the option of [[spoiler:watching your mother die by being torn apart on a torture device, or shooting her yourself so she won't have to suffer]]. Neither choice is particularly pleasant.* ''VideoGame/AceCombatXSkiesOfDeception'' offers you something of this in the endgame. You can either take down Alect Squadron first, which leads to the Fenrirs having annoying High Powered Microwave cannons, or you can attack the transport fleet first and deny the Fenrirs their [=HPMs=], but gain Alect Squadron's piloting expertise. And you may also need to go through an AirstrikeImpossible segment now or later. No third option here, folks.* The ''Franchise/DragonAge'' series is way too fond of this.** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' alone:*** In the City Elf origin, [[spoiler:you can kill the [[AristocratsAreEvil noble]] who's about to rape four elven women, but that would bring down the wrath of his father, who would purge the Alienage--so it's either let him get away with raping (and possibly killing) four women to save your town, or killing him and forfeiting your township down the line]].*** The chronologically first (for most characters) major SadisticChoice in ''Origins'' takes place in Redcliffe: [[spoiler:the Arl's young son is possessed by a demon, and the only immediate options available to the party are to fight the demon in the physical world, killing the boy in the process, or perform a blood magic ritual wherein his mother gives her life to allow one of your mages to confront the demon in the SpiritWorld. You can TakeAThirdOption, instead, but it requires you either to have already saved the Circle mages, or to go save them first and come back with their help. If you do, the epilogue reveals that the boy never exactly went back to normal, and Wynne mentions that a mage cured this way will be forever changed by the experience]].*** Another, somewhat more surprising one is [[spoiler:deciding the fate of Teyrn Loghain, who was really a WellIntentionedExtremist and ultimately seems to recognize and regret his errors. If you choose to spare him and give him a chance at redemption, one of your party members abandons you and becomes a hopeless drunk for the rest of his life--assuming the guy you just spared doesn't have him executed, which is also a possibility. Again, you can TakeAThirdOption and harden his personality beforehand, Alistair can be crowned king but will remain forever bitter and despondent over either how Loghain almost walks away scott free or how he gets to play hero.]] Interestingly, the [[CuttingOffTheBranches default option for the first game's ending]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' is actually the third option, as you get to meet [[spoiler:King Alistair who grimly mentions that Loghain is still alive]].*** And then there's the end game, where you have four options on how to kill the Archdemon: [[spoiler:perform a HeroicSacrifice which not only kills you but ''destroys your soul'', have your Grey Warden brother-in-arms (an possibly [[RomanceSidequest love interest]]) Alistair perform the soul-destroying HeroicSacrifice, let Teyrn Loghain do it (only available if you spared his life earlier, see above, but quite possibly the [[RedemptionEqualsDeath most ethically unproblematic decision]]), or help your SourSupporter Morrigan give birth to what may be the equivalent of the BigBad.]] If you decide to take up Morrigan's suggestion, [[spoiler:one of the male Grey Warden party members obviously has to help her conceive the baby. This isn't that big of a deal, unless your player character is in a relationship with Alistair, because if you take that route, he will end up being the only guy in the party capable of playing baby daddy... and if you don't, he will go and sacrifice his own life for you in the end, regardless of what else you have to say!]]** And then the expansion, ''[[VideoGame/DragonAgeOriginsAwakening Awakening]]'' ups the ante [[spoiler:by forcing you to choose between saving the city of Amaranthine (a major population center) or the Vigil's Keep (where your soldiers and half your party are stationed) from getting sacked by the Darkspawn. Thankfully, you can TakeAThirdOption again: if you have invested heavily into reinforcing the fortress and its troops, the Vigil's Keep will manage to fend for itself while you defend Amaranthine. While the Keep's losses will still be significant, none of your party members will die if you maxed out its defenses]].** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', however, shows no mercy in its sadistic choice, [[spoiler:when Anders destroys the Kirkwall Chantry, Hawke is forced to choose between the Templars and the Mages and with it, potentially half of the party who have their own reservations about the freedom of mages. Despite taking a side, Hawke ultimately has to fight the leaders of both the Mages and Templars. For Hawke who sided with the Mages, Orsino was partially responsible for his mother's death while if Hawke sided with the Templars, Meredith has clearly gone insane.]]** ''Videogame/DragonAgeInquisition'' also has its fair share of tough decisions. Choosing to ally with [[spoiler:the Mages or the Templars]] will result in the faction you didn't choose becoming the brainwashed minions of the BigBad. Playing through both paths makes it clear that both factions have plenty of perfectly decent people in their ranks too.*** The end of one arc forces you to choose either a Grey Warden ([[spoiler:possibly Alistair or Loghain]]) or [[spoiler:Hawke to stay behind in the Fade and pull a HeroicSacrifice on the Nightmare Demon to allow the others to escape.]]*** There is also the choice in Iron Bull's personal quest. [[spoiler:The Inquisitor, while working to secure an alliance with the Qunari, is forced to chose between having the Chargers withdraw to survive, or letting them die to protect a Qunari dreadnaught from the Venatori. If the Chargers are saved, Iron Bull is declared Tal-Vashoth.]]*** In the DLC Trespasser, though it's not a decision the player has to make, we learn that [[spoiler:Solas needs to either let go of Elvhenan, his home, and be solely responsible for its destruction, or bring it back at the cost of the entire world that came out of its semi-destruction. It's not a difficult decision to him if your Inquisitor made him genuinely believe that the world is made up of semi-Tranquil, but if you had high approval, he needs to live with the fact that he's probably going to end up mass-murdering countless people including his best friend/girlfriend unless he's willing to live out the rest of his now-tiny life in a world that will never compare to his and then die as the last of his kind.]]* In the 2005 version of ''The Bard's Tale'', you get a choice between saving the princess you've been trying to save, and killing her at her kidnapper's request (who insists she's a demon). [[spoiler: If you choose to kill her, she turns into a demon. If you choose to kill the wizard, you beat him and THEN she transforms into a demon, who keeps you as her right-hand man.]]** [[spoiler: You also have a third option, to ignore both of them, go back to the bar you started at, and just get used to the undead horde that's been rising to conquer the world. They're not that bad.]]* ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'': [[spoiler:Joel finally gets Ellie to the Fireflies in Salt Lake City. Ellie's being prepped for surgery to begin creating a cure, which entails removing her brain, killing her in the process. Joel is faced with a choice: allow the girl he has come to see as his daughter to die and allow humanity to be cured, or save her and damn humanity to the status quo. He chooses the latter.]]* ''Yume Miru Kusuri'' presents you with three girls, you can only save one from their painful problems. Once selected, your character watches the other two their slow inevitable and painful descent to despair from their problems while you are merely buying extra time for your selected girl. She too can join the others in a bad ending if you made the wrong choices* At one point in ''VideoGame/AdventRising'', you are forced to choose to save either your brother or your fiancee. [[spoiler:The one you choose to save ends up dead later in the story, and the villains [[WhatTheHellHero guilt trip you for failing to save the other one]]. Worse yet, there's a glitch that sometimes switches your choice to the other person, so it's all meaningless]].* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' features such a choice near the end of the game,: [[spoiler:it turns out your new friend, Ryoji Mochizuki, is a an unwilling harbinger for Nyx, a Shadow of immeasurable power who would soon come and wipe out humanity. Ryoji assures you that you have no chance of winning and offers you a choice that you must make on New Year's Eve. If you choose to kill Ryoji, you and your friends' memories of Shadows, the Dark Hour, Nyx, and humanity's impending demise will disappear, and you can live out the rest of your days in blissful ignorance and, when Nyx finally comes, die peacefully. On the other hand, if you decide not to kill Ryoji, you will have a month to prepare for Nyx's arrival. You will fight Nyx, but according to Ryoji, you will be fighting a losing battle and will know naught but despair.]]* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'' has one near the end of the game: [[spoiler:it turns out Igor is not actually the ''real'' Igor, but a wicked god, Yaldabaoth who manipulated the events of the game from behind the scenes and who essentially wrote you and your comrades out of existence at this point in the game. He offers you two choices. Option A is to join with Yaldabaoth and let him return the world to its previous state, continuing your lives as Phantom Thieves while he observes your actions, but in so doing robbing humanity of their ability to think for themselves. Option B is to continue to oppose Yaldabaoth, futile though it is to fight against the God of Control. The former choice leads to the bad ending, while the latter leads to the final boss battle and the good ending thereafter.]]* ''VideoGame/LegendOfMana'': Near the end of the Heaven's Gate arc, Escad and Daena come to blows. You get to decide who to side with, causing the other person to initiate a battle to the death. You can't even TakeAThirdOption, as saying that [[spoiler: they're both wrong]] causes [[spoiler: the one you've been nicer to]] to flip out and try to kill you.* Many, many instances in ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. An early example has Geralt having to decide whether or not he should give a crate of supplies he just defended to a desperate band of travelers. [[spoiler:If he gives them the supplies, he later discovers that the "travelers" were actually terrorists, and the "supplies" were weapons they used to murder an innocent man. If, on the other hand, Geralt sees through the terrorists' lie and kills them, he later finds out that his actions caused the arrest of an innocent man.]] Either way, ''someone'' gets screwed over.** The sequel is likewise full of this. A major example is the climax of chapter 1, where Geralt must choose between [[spoiler:helping Iorveth save a group of elves about to be executed by [[TheCaligula Loredo]], or help Rosch go straight after Loredo and kill him. You ''cannot'' do both. Choosing to help Iorveth causes Loredo to escape, spark a mass race riot in Flotsam, and [[KarmaHoudini completely get away with it]]. Choosing to help Rosch kill Loredo results in the elven hostages dying, but the riot, and thus more bloodshed, is prevented.]]** Actually, quite often [[AvertedTrope averted]], or [[SubvertedTrope subverted]]. Plenty of choices that are set up allow you to TakeAThirdOption, especially in ''The Witcher III: The Wild Hunt''. They may not necessarily be better, though. Remember: [[GrayAndGreyMorality there is no good or bad]] in ''The Witcher'', just actions and consequences.* In ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky]]'', the hero has to choose between joining their partner on the [[TheDarkSide dark side]] or leaving them at the mercy of the BigBad, who wouldn't want just ''one'' of them... [[spoiler:or not. It's [[AllJustADream all just a nightmare]].]]* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' DLC The Pitt. [[spoiler:You can either defeat the slavers and kidnap the leader's child. This means that the Pitt loses its standing army, the child is subjected to rough treatment and the freed slaves may not even able to discover the cure to the massively degenerative disease them as none of them seem to have scientific knowledge. On the other hand you can crush the slave rebellion, allowing an army of slavers and raiders to terrorize the region and slavery continues in the Pitt, probably even after a cure is found. Don't rely on the Karma meter to tell you which is right, those popups won't give you any comfort now. Worst of all, even after you make yourself believe you did the right thing you then remember that those subhuman creatures the disease turns them into were the only large scale food source available in the Pitt.]]** In ''Point Lookout'', regardless of whether you side with Desmond or Calvert, the latter always turns hostile at the end.** ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' has something even worse; when a faulty reactor threatens some sharecropping plantations, a group of farmers go and investigate, only to be trapped in an unreachable part of the vault. Your choices are to either shut off the reactor and save the crops, which would doom the trapped farmers, or reroute control of the facility to them so they can escape, which would mean destroying the crops and letting many starve in the shortage that followed. The problem is, with most choices you make in ''Fallout'', good choices improve your Karma score and bad ones lower it; this decision doesn't change it either way, and with no third option, all you can do is move on to the next task and think about whether it was right or not.** The ending of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' is this due to copious amounts of GreyAndGrayMorality. [[spoiler:You can side with the Brotherhood of Steel, who finally bring safety and order to the Commonwealth, but through a military dictatorship, and ghouls and synths will doubtlessly suffer under it. You can side with the Institute, who offer a wealth of technological progress to the Commonwealth but even more oppression with it. You can side with the Railroad, which will mean the synths will finally be free but the Commonwealth will be thrown into chaos with no large unifying power to keep it pinned down. Or you can rebuild the Minutemen and side with them, which ''offers'' the Commonwealth both safety ''and'' liberty but leaves no certainty of it due to their shaky military power. You can, however, TakeAThirdOption by [[EnemyMine persuading the Minutemen to team up with the Brotherhood and the Railroad against the Institute]], but this just leaves the surviving three factions in an uneasy truce with no guarantee that further clashes won't take place further down the line.]]*** This is made worse by the fact that no matter what choice you make, you ''will'' be drawn into conflict with one of your friends. [[spoiler:If you turn on the Railroad, you're forced to kill Deacon and you've also placed Nick and Curie's lives in very questionable hands. If you turn on the Brotherhood of Steel, Danse will leave your service and never talk to you again. If you turn on the Institute, X6 will go from calm-professional to kill on sight, and you're effectively betraying your own son by destroying his life's work and what he believes to be the last hope for mankind, and provided you didn't kill him before the final quest, he goes to his deathbed despising you for it.]]* In ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration'' (and possibly the ''Alpha'' series as well?), Elzam's backstory centers around one of these. He can either let a space colony be exposed to nerve gas while he chases the villain, or blast open a hole and launch both the canister and his wife into space. His wife was already exposed to the gas anyway, he just couldn't pull the trigger himself until she begged him to.* In the FanRemake of ''VideoGame/KingsQuestII'', there is a flash-forward to the era of ''VideoGame/KingsQuestIII''. Daventry in ruins from the ravages of a three headed dragon. Graham's son was kidnapped as an infant, and Graham's daughter has given herself up to sacrifice to try and appease the dragon, knowing it's only temporary. And then the [[BigBad The Father]], the {{Chessmaster}} who set ''all'' this crap up in the first place, [[EvilGloating shows up to gloat]]. He then presents the choice: if Graham give up the crown, the Father will remove the curse he's put on the family, dismiss the dragon, and restore Daventry. He will even give Graham his children back. The full points option (it's playable) is telling him to rot in hell.* The first ''VideoGame/AnotherCenturysEpisode'' game features one of these: [[spoiler:Either blow up civilian space shuttles at random trying to locate a bomb, or let that bomb get to Earth and completely wreck the environment.]] [[SarcasmMode Thanks a bunch,]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char]].* ''VideoGame/PrinceOfPersia2008'' ends with a pretty hefty one for the Prince: [[spoiler:Elika, the Prince's LoveInterest, has just died to [[SealedEvilInACan re-seal]] [[BigBad Ahriman]], so the Prince has the choice of either letting her stay dead, or using the power of Ahriman's prison temple to resurrect her, thereby releasing Ahriman and resetting everything he's done.]] It really tells you something about his character when [[spoiler:he brings Elika back. She's not happy about it.]]** A justification in the Epilogue: The Prince (rightly) states that [[spoiler:all that had been accomplished was putting the SealedEvilInACan ''back'' in its can rather than actually destroying it, meaning that at some point in the future, this whole process would start all over again... except this time without the one thing that could stop it from winning: Elika. So reviving Elika (although an emotionally-driven decision) actually ''does'' have some logic to it. Let the world live on for another few hundred years before almost certainly being taken over by darkness and evil [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and people who kick puppies]], or take this ''one freak chance'' that has arisen due to circumstances that will likely ''never happen again'' to destroy the SealedEvilInACan forever?]] In the long run, the Prince's decision is the smarter one. You know, if what you're going for is keeping the world safe from this particular evil for the rest of time.* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' has Kefka, of all people, invoking this on Edgar Figaro. He has his soldiers torch Figaro Castle and state that they'll stop torching his kingdom ''if'' he hands over Terra Branford. This backfires on Kefka when not only does Figaro escape with Locke and Terra, but he also orders his guards to have Figaro Castle tunnel underground.* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'':** Sylvanas takes [[RebelLeader Darius Crowley's]] [[ActionGirl daughter]] hostage and offers him the following options: Surrender and retreat, giving up his homeland and abandoning the battle, or have his daughter [[YouWillBeAssimilated killed and then reanimated as one of the forsaken]].** The members of Garrosh's Horde who don't like his actions have this. Either go along with him and risk their people in what they see as a self-destructive and immoral war with the Alliance, or turn on him and suffer his wrath.** At the end of ''Legion's'' Val'sharah storyline, Xavius tries to force one of these on Tyrande Whisperwind. Pursue him to rescue her husband Malfurion, or return to the Temple of Elune, the goddess Tyrande is priestess of, to protect it from the corrupted dragon he has unleashed on it. Tyrande, however, immediately chooses to rush to the temple to protect it, then tasks the player with rescuing Malfurion.* In ''VideoGame/RuneScape'', in the last quest in a series of quests, you (as the hero) must choose between two of your allies who the BigBad has captured - [[CaptainObvious the one you choose will live,]][[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and the other one will die.]] Naturally, both encourage you to save the other. Although, you don't see the one you choose to save after the quest.* ''Franchise/MetalGear'':** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', Hot Coldman, in a manner similar to SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's "Social Experiment" from ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', managed to leak Peace Walker's false data to NORAD with the intention of forcing the military to choose between launching nukes, namely with the belief that humans don't possess the will to launch nukes, although he also hints that he truly doesn't care if they did launch in either case.** A variation occurs in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid.'' When Snake is captured, Ocelot gives him two choices; endure torture, or submit and accept defeat. A few hints are dropped in the dialogue beforehand, but the repercussions aren't explicitly clear until you reach the end of the game. Submitting results in [[spoiler: Meryl's death,]] while enduring the torture [[spoiler: saves her.]] This wouldn't be much of a sadistic choice if not for the fact that ButtonMashing to survive the electrocution is frustratingly difficult, whilst submitting is the easier, albeit less moral decision.* ''VideoGame/AlphaProtocol'':** The game forces you to choose between the life of someone you care about, and the lives of many people you don't know. [[spoiler:And just like them, the character you care about exits the story either way (though for once, she has a chance of not exiting in a body bag.)]] Interestingly in [[spoiler: Rome]], the choice is even more difficult. While the utilitarian decesion is to save the greater number of people, saving [[spoiler: just Madison]] hurts the greater objectives of Halbeck further as she survives to campaign against them politically whereas if she dies the anti-terror laws, that were the motive of the attack, are passed. ** During the Taipei missions, Thorton has to stop Omen Deng from assassinating Taiwanese President Ronald Sung [[spoiler: or at least he ''thinks'' Omen Deng is the assassin]] and at one point, he manages to recover Omen Deng's flash drive. The problem? The flash drive has protection software that ''deletes the disk when opened'', so Thorton has to choose to either save the data about the assassination, or save the data about deliberately instigated riots planned to happen in the future. If he saves the data about the assassination, President Ronald Sung's life is saved but hundreds of people get killed in the ensuing riots. If he saves the data about the riots, the president puts extra security around to stop the riots before they happen, but the assassin successfully kills Sung.* In ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'':** You can invoke this on any inexperienced Engineer. When you sap his sentry you have to force him to either fix it, resulting in you being able to get away and possibly sapping again, or try and kill you and risk loosing his sentry. Most inexperienced Engies do not realise that the spy can instantaneously place a second Sapper as soon as the first one is removed, and those that do are often not nimble enough to catch experienced spies, who often lure them away long enough so that the sapper destroys the sentry. In this, [[TakeAThirdOption the third option]] for the Engineer would be to [[spoiler: alert their teammates that a [[MemeticMutation "SPAH'S SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY!"]] and let them do the gunning down while the Engy fixes his sentry.]]** Any person who plays Medic will at some point come across a situation where two or more people run up to them while burning or bleeding to death with neither dispenser nor health kit in sight. Your healing beam can only focus on one patient at a time. Occasionally the victims will have enough health that a particularly fast and skilled Medic will be able to bounce just enough healing to each patient for all of them to survive, but this is rarely the case.* None of the endings in ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' are exactly happy but an example occurs when JC is holed up with his injured brother. Government agents arrive and you can either go out through the door to fight them or slip out the window and leave Paul to his fate. The choice is more difficult if you have specialized your character for stealth. [[spoiler:This becomes almost a non choice if you know that you get captured when you're "killed" (which will happen inevitably regardless of choice) and that the only thing that truly chooses whether Paul lives or dies is if you exit the room via the door or escape out the window, respectively.]]* In the ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' DLC ''The Missing Link'', Adam ends up on the butt end of one at the end. ArcVillain Burke, in an attempt to cover up his tracks and destroy evidence of his crimes, unleashes poison gas across the facility, intending to kill everyone in it. Adam reaches a control center and is forced to choose. [[SmallStepsHero Option A:]] Redirect all the gas into the laboratory, saving hundreds of innocent prisoners but killing a whistleblower who can unravel the inhumane experiments happening in the facility. [[IDidWhatIHadToDo Option B:]] Redirect all the gas into the cells, saving the whistleblower and putting an end to the experiments but sacrificing hundreds of innocent lives do do so. [[spoiler:[[TakeAThirdOption Option C:]] Find the extremely well-hidden pump for the gas and destroy it, saving everybody. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome "All of the Above", indeed.]]]]* The ending of ''VideoGame/{{Killer7}}'' presents players with one: kill Matsuoka, and [[spoiler: the US will wipe Japan off the face of the earth]]; spare him, and [[spoiler: Japan will attack the US, starting WorldWarIII]].* In the last level of ''VideoGame/DeBlob 2'', the BigBad has placed bombs around his enslaved workers and only Blob can save them. He taunts you to either waste time saving a few and let him get away with brainwashing the rest of the planet, or go after him and leave those few to die. But there's enough time in the level that if you're any good at the game, you'll be able to do both.* Although this is put in a rather subtle way, in ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' this occurs to [[spoiler:Litchi Faye-Ling. Hazama invites her to join the NOL because he has the cure for herself and Arakune. Her condition is worsening and if left be, she'll be at best a burden to Orient Town, at worst turn into the next Arakune and eat her former friends. If she just refused, there will be a big chance that Hazama will dispose the cure and her only lead for salvation lost. It boils down to either "Go betray those who expect you to be a good person and join TheDarkSide" or "Slowly wither and die, or if [[SarcasmMode lucky]], turn into a monster that eats everyone who looks up to you." There's just no [[TakeAThirdOption third option]] for her.]] She ''did'' have a third option: [[spoiler:give up on Arakune and get Kokonoe to help her deal with her Boundary corruption which Arakune himself begs her to do in his true ending.]] She just refuses to take it because [[spoiler:giving up on Arakune would have made all of her efforts pointless.]]* The end of ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' forces Desmond Miles to make a choice between [[spoiler:letting the Earth burn in the hope of building a better civilization AfterTheEnd, knowing that evil will eventually return; or saving the world but handing it over to a vengeful PhysicalGod who will enslave mankind. The latter choice also comes at the cost of his life. He chooses to save the world, hoping that his friends will be able to stop Juno [[SequelHook in the next game]]]]. To highlight how sadistic this choice is, [[spoiler:Minerva actually recommends doing the opposite of what Desmond chose. In her opinion, setting Juno loose would be worse for humanity than a solar flare frying the planet.]]* A sadistic choice plays a pivotal role in the backstory of ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'': one of the dwarf clans carelessly allowed humans access to their secrets of technology, humans [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters used that technology to destructive ends]], and a delegation of elves petitioned the dwarf king Loghaire Thunderstone to allow them retribution against the clan (elves, being InHarmonyWithNature, suffered most from the industrial revolution). To allow elves to interfere in the dwarven justice system would violate the clan's honor, but upsetting the elves could have led to a war which would have devastated the continent. Loghaire eventually gave in to the elves' demands, but was so ashamed of his decision that he abdicated the throne and exiled himself from his people.* ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'':** In the penultimate story mission, [[spoiler: the player is forced to choose between going to Magarac Island to save some friends that STAG had kidnapped and strapped explosives to, but in doing so allow Killbane to escape; or go after Killbane and kill him, but in doing so allow your homies to die.]]* Mocked in ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' in the first mission, where you must choose one of two world-changing bills as a short button pressing event--a bill to support a cure for cancer ("Fuck Cancer") or a bill to end world hunger ("Let Them Eat Cake"). In a later mission, [[BigBad Zinyak]] offers you a choice to either continue your quest to rescue Matt Miller/oppose the Zin Empire (and face further opposition from the Zin) or give yourself up and ensure the safety of what's left of the human race (and [[spoiler: get a NonstandardGameOver where you're bluntly told [[ILied "ZINYAK LIED"]]]]).** Subverted in Shaundi's LoyaltyMission: in the end, two digital clones of DJ Veteran Child take Shaundi and "Fun Shaundi" (Shaundi's LiteralSplitPersonality, based on how she was in ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'') hostage and try to force you to choose who lives and who dies. Both Shaundis collectively decide "Fuck that!" and kill the clones themselves--especially poignant is that they each kill the clone threatening the ''other'' Shaundi, demonstrating their newfound readiness to accept each other.* For the final mission in ''VideoGame/TheBureauXCOMDeclassified'', you get to pick a new PlayerCharacter from among [[spoiler:Faulk, Weaver, and Weir]]. After you reach your assigned objective, both of the others get in trouble and ask for your help. You can only pick one, resulting in the other one dying. You also get another choice on whether to [[spoiler:execute Carter or not]]. If you choose the second option, he will swear vengeance.* One of the early bosses in ''Demonicon'' is a cannibal who kidnapped a bunch of local refugees. Problem is, he happens to have blood-bound them all to himself, so if you kill him they die too, but if you let him go he gets to find a bunch of new victims someplace else. Unfortunately for good-aligned players, there is no third option to just let the prisoners go and turn him into a {{Sealed Evil in a Can}} or something.* In the backstory to ''VisualNovel/HatofulBoyfriend'', the mother to Yuuya and Sakuya [[spoiler: ran away with a commoner and had one chick and one egg before her fiancee had him murdered. Yuuya remembers her telling him about his "new father" and saying "But your new father says he doesn't want your brother. He says he can only feed you if you leave the egg behind." The phrasing suggests that she was only allowed to keep one of her children and elected that it be the one who had hatched already. To spare her Yuuya volunteered to throw his brother away, but kept the egg and switched it with the new one she laid, smashing the new one. Killing his unborn half brother as a child had a profound effect on Yuuya - he's not sure if he did it for his full brother or out of spite, just like the nobleman, and it haunts him. Either way, he would have had to kill his sibling or let his mother kill her son]].* ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' and [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 its sequel]] hinge on this: are you willing to kill all of your companions in order to escape?** The first game also gives you a SadisticChoice in Chapter 5, where Kyoko, who's been Makoto's closest ally thus far, is trying to fend off suspicion of herself being the murderer, even if it means that the suspicion falls on ''Makoto'' instead. [[spoiler:By the end of the trial, Makoto has the option of either exposing a lie Kyoko's told, thus clearing himself of all suspicion but playing right into Monokuma's plans, or letting her lie slide, thus making him the prime suspect. The canon choice is the latter one, and while Monokuma does try to get Makoto executed as a result, Alter Ego saves his life. In the bad ending, however, Makoto exposes Kyoko, resulting in Monokuma ''successfully'' executing her, and the surviving students spending the rest of their lives inside the GildedCage of Hope's Peak Academy.]]** Both of those games have an even nastier choice in the finale. In the first game, the final trial has the survivors choosing between Hope and Despair. Choose Despair? [[spoiler:They surrender and stay in the school forever. Oh, and Hope, aka Naegi, gets executed]]. Choose Hope? [[spoiler:The Mastermind dies, but they will be forced out of the school and into the outside world... which is a ''wasteland''. Makoto convinces them to take the latter option, as he's hopeful that they can rebuild the world and heal it from the despair Junko has wreaked upon it]].** The second game has three choices. The survivors can either [[spoiler:stay on the Jabberwock Islands with the members of the Future Foundation (AKA the "World Destroyers", which they are NOT; they're on the students' side)]], [[spoiler:escape the Jabberwock Islands as intended, which will allow the Mastermind to escape too, and keep the Future Foundation members trapped]], or they can TakeAThirdOption and [[spoiler:shut down the game, escape the Islands with the Future Foundation ''and'' slay the Mastermind... but run a heavy risk of going completely insane in the process. After going through a HeroicBSOD, Hajime manages to overcome his indecision with the help of Chiaki, and he convinces everyone to shut down the game and destroy the Mastermind, promising them that this choice will allow them to take full control of their future. He turns out to be right]].** The spin-off ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' keeps up the tradition. Do you, A: [[spoiler:destroy the Monokuma robot controller, putting an end to the rampaging slaughter machines, which will also cause the brainwashing helmets being worn by thousands of children to explode,]] or B: [[spoiler:not destroy it, and let the Monokuma bots continue to rampage, further riling up the already bloodthirsty mob of adults bent on killing the children]]? By the way, it's revealed that [[spoiler:not just the children's lives are in the balance. Depending on what you do, a complete and utter ''war'' between various powerful parties will be started depending on the choice.]]* [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei "Your mother has been possessed by a demon and pleads with you to end her suffering. Do you kill her?"]]** Returns with a vengeance in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV''. Issachar, already dying from wounds ''you'' inflicted on him, begs you to hurry and [[MercyKill kill]] [[ICannotSelfTerminate him]]. Much later, in the Chaos Ending's PlayableEpilogue, [[spoiler:a Mikado woman is surrounded by a flock of Halphas, and is offered to either remain a human and be devoured, or just take a Red and become a demon]].* In ''VideoGame/FallenLondon'', the Finder of Heiresses storyline ends with one after you find out that the missing Comtessa has been turned to clay by her Clay Man lover and is only able to stare at you with frightened eyes: do you kill her on the spot to save her from a potential FateWorseThanDeath, or do you leave her as she is with the reasoning that you don't know enough about the situation to kill her? The game deliberately leaves it ambiguous if you made the right decision or not, regardless of which one you choose.* ''VideoGame/{{Lisa}}: The Painful RPG'' thrives on these. The majority revolve around whether or not you're willing to risk yourself in order to save one of your allies. Choosing to act almost always leads to Brad getting disfigured and suffering a stat loss, while abandoning them leads to [[FinalDeath their deaths]].** One of it include choices between[[spoiler:The lives of three of your party member, or you surrogate daughter's nipple]]* In ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' mission "All That Glitters...", Vaadwaur leader Gaul has decided to [[spoiler:slaughter the Talaxians remaining in their asteroid base]] as a major "Fuck You" to the player for trying to be the good guy. At one point, you're asked to choose between two doors and even if you're playing with multiple people, you ''cannot'' open both. Even the EMH Mk. I expresses displeasure at this choice.* Near the end of the prologue in ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', Deathshead has Blazkowicz and his surviving squad mates captured, and forces Blazkowicz to choose either Fergus or Wyatt to be taken away and "put to the scalpel". Doing so changes the story in a number of ways, both subtle (hotwiring/lock-picking minigame) and not-so-subtle (different characters join LaResistance depending on who you save). And there's no [[TakeaThirdOption third option]] either - take too long to choose, and you ALL die. You ''have'' to choose either Fergus or Wyatt. And just to rub it in, at a certain point in the plot whomever you saved will [[WhatTheHellHero ream Blazkowicz out]] and say that he made the wrong choice -- Fergus says you should have saved the younger man, while Wyatt says you should have saved the more experienced soldier.* ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange'' lives on this trope. You'll end up running into this multiple times in each of the five episodes. [[spoiler:The final decision of episode five leaves you to decide whether to save the townspeople of Arcadia Bay from an incoming tornado, or save your best friend/possible love interest.]]** There's one that only becomes sadistic on a second playthrough. In chapter 4, [[spoiler: you're given the option of having Max warn Victoria that Nathan is targeting her. If you've got Vic to the point that she believes you, this leads to her death as she goes to the actual villain, Mr Jefferson, for protection, and he disposes of her before he does Max. In the second playthru, this leads to the difficult choice of sending Vic to her death, or either being a jerk to her through the earlier chapters, or having Max act on knowledge she can't have (or change to a jerk characterization at a strange time).]]* ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'' is all about this. At the beginning, it seems mostly like the choices are about morals (like telling Matt that his girlfriend hugged her ex), but it at some points becomes quite sadistic like when [[spoiler: deciding whether Ashley or Josh should die by a gigantic saw]], when having to decide on[[spoiler: Matt saving himself or trying to save Emily]] or [[spoiler: shoot Ashley, shoot Chris or letting both die]]. While some of these interestingly don't really end in the characters certain death, they can impact later decisions or [[GuideDangIt lead to the ironic death of the one you saved]].* In the ''Videogame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic'' ''IV'' "Glory of Days Past" campaign, Waerjak at one point must decide between rescuing his foster father Tarnum or freeing a bunch of slaves. It is actually possible to choose Tarnum, but doing so results in scenario failure. Waerjak must choose the slaves over his father to "win". The right choice is foreshadowed by the narration, which has Tarnum teaching Waerjak about TheNeedsOfTheMany. [[spoiler:Fortunately, Tarnum isn't called "The Immortal Hero" for nothing.]]* ''DarkestDungeon'': In addition to the adventurers whose survival outweighs the necessary assets you can acquire, the final battle [[spoiler:requires you to sacrifice HALF your party. There are only 12 options, and some are less willing than others. And in the end, the Heir has seen too much and must choose between a life of insanity and a cowardly death.]] They choose the latter.* ''VideoGame/MinecraftStoryMode'':** At one point in the first episode, Aiden floods your Endercon booth with lava, which sets Reuben (your pet pig) on fire, but also puts your machine at risk of heat damage. Will you have your friends help you find Reuben, or have them stay and save the machine? Unlike most sadistic choices, this one has a correct answer, non-obvious though it may be, which is [[spoiler: to have your friends stay behind. They don't actually help at all in the search for Reuben, but they do save the machine. If the machine survives, it wins the Endercon building competition, but if your friends aren't around to save it, the Ocelots win instead.]]** [[spoiler: At one point within the story, you're given the option of saving either Gabriel or Petra from the Wither Storm. You can't choose both.]]** In episode 3, there's an unusual example that ''at the time'' is just presented as a regular choice, with the "sadistic" implications not occurring until later: [[spoiler:you need to take either Magnus's or Ellegaard's armor to proceed, but the person whose armor you take will be killed later after taking a lethal blow without armor to protect them. So you have a sadistic choice of saving either Magnus or Ellegaard; you can't save both.]]* ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTelltaleSeries'' has a fair amount of them:** In Episode 2: [[spoiler:Batman is forced to choose between saving Catwoman from armed criminals or saving Harvey from Penguin. Failing to save Catwoman will drive a wedge between Selina and Bruce, but failing to save Harvey will leave his face disfigured.]]** In Episode 4: [[spoiler: Harvey Dent wanted to go into Wayne Manor to defeat Bruce Wayne while Penguin was attempting to hack into the bat-computer while he is inside Wayne Enterprises. Either you must head back to Wayne Manor to stop Harvey Dent while forcing Batman to give up all of technology to prevent Penguin into hacking the bat-computer and knowing everything about Batman or you head to Wayne Enterprises to stop Penguin while leaving the fates of Alfred and Lucius unknown when Wayne Manor was burnt to the ground.]]** In Episode 5: [[spoiler:Lady Arkham holds Alfred hostage and threatens him unless Batman reveals his identity to her. If Bruce complies and removes his cowl, Lady Arkham will attack him and blast off a piece of his ear. If Batman refuses, Alfred will lose an eye.]]** Episode One of the second season: [[spoiler: Riddler manages to trap Batman in a cage along with one of the government agents he captured, while the other three are still locked in his death traps. He offers Batman a set of "riddles" (which is really just ego-stroking, like "What's the name of the man who outsmarted the Batman?"); if he answers wrong or refuses to answer, one of the trapped agents will be killed. However, every time he answers correctly Riddler hits the cage with a blast from a sonic weapon; while Batman's suit will protect him from the worst of it, the agent in the cage with him will die of internal hemorrhaging after three blasts. Tragically, the game subverts the "third option": if you answer all three questions, Batman will figure out a way to destroy the cage while putting the agent inside a broken deathtrap to shield her from the blast. While she survives, the sonic attack leaves her permanently deaf, something that makes her partner hate Batman more than he already did.]]* Invoked by Eggman during ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2.'' Sonic has the last chaos emerald needed to power the ARK's laser cannon, and in order to coerce Sonic into cooperating, Eggman holds Amy hostage, threatening to shoot her unless Sonic hands over the emerald. [[spoiler: Naturally Sonic chooses to save Amy, but Eggman was well aware that the emerald was fake, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard using Sonic's own ploy against him.]]]]* ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'' is fond of this, but the most prominent example is the chapter where Ethan is ordered to kill a drug dealer. At first it seems like it's going to be an easy choice, but then he shows you [[spoiler: a photo of his two young daughters, all while begging you not to shoot him.]] Suddenly the decision gets a whole lot harder, especially when you take into account that the killer won't reveal any more clues to Shaun's whereabouts unless Ethan kills the man.* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' backstory, the [[OurElvesAreDifferent Falmer (Snow Elves)]] were faced with one - extinction or transformation into [[TheMorlocks Morlocks]]. At one time, the Falmer had a civilization rivaling that of the Altmer (High Elves) spanning across Skyrim and Solstheim. However, they came into conflict with the ancestors of the [[HornyVikings Nords]] who were coming over in droves from the [[GrimUpNorth freezing-over continent of Atmora]]. Ysgramor, one of the Atmoran leaders, rallied [[BadassArmy an army of 500 of Atmora's greatest warriors]] and led them on [[FinalSolution a purge]] of the Falmer. Facing extinction, the surviving Falmer turned to their [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] cousins for shelter. The Dwemer accepted the Falmer, under the condition that the Falmer must consume toxic fungi that would blind them and then serve as [[EnslavedElves slaves]] to the Dwemer.* ''VideoGame/TheWitcher3WildHunt'' has one quest where Geralt is tasked to destroy the malicious spirit [[spoiler:of a murdered druidess]] who has been killing innocent people left and right, only for it to barter with its life by promising to save a group of blameless orphans set for sacrifice. There is no good choice. [[spoiler:It's heaviy implied in an in-game book that the murdered druidess is the individual that created [[WickedWitch the Crones of Crookback Bog]].]]* Common throughout the ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'' franchise, but the final game, ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'', is based on these with the "Decision Game" repeatedly foisted on the characters. Does Diana risk blowing Sigma's brains out in order to save Phi, who is trapped in an incinerator? This is just one example of many.* ''VideoGame/OneShot'' features one at the very end of the game: [[TrappedInAnotherWorld send Niko home]] or [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed (temporarily)]] SaveTheWorld. There is no [[TakeAThirdOption third option]] by the time you need to make the choice. Trying to [[NewGamePlus *find* a third option]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt makes things worse before they get better]].* At the climax of [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire Diego]]'s season two path in ''VisualNovel/HavenfallIsForLovers'', the season's antagonist presents the player character with a choice: kill Diego with the stake and other vampire-slaying tools prepared for just this occasion, or lose her younger sister forever.* ''VideoGame/MegaMan2'' presents the player with a more gameplay-oriented one in the form of Quick Man's stage, which is full of OneHitKill lasers and requires near-perfect platforming to get through. While the lasers can be halted with the Time Stopper, at the end of ThatOneLevel is ThatOneBoss - Quick Man himself, who's also weak to Time Stopper. You also can't turn off Time Stopper once you've activated it, meaning once you turn it on it'll run continuously until it's out of ammo, leaving the player to choose between using it to get through the stage or using it to weaken Quick Man. Even [[TakeAThirdOption Taking A Third Option]] and grinding for weapon energy just before the boss room is made incredibly tedious by the only available enemies being tanky Sniper Armors.----


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At Boston Children's Hospital, our orthopedic and plastic surgery teams know how concerned you are that your baby has a hand deformity. It may help you to know that we've developed innovative surgical and non-surgical treatments for children with all degrees of severity of radial dysplasia. Learning more about this condition will help you feel more confident and in control as we treat — and work toward — healing your child.
Radial dysplasia is a non-painful, rare congenital (meaning your baby was born with it) difference in which the radius bone of the forearm did not form properly. This causes the affected hand to be bent inward toward the thumb-side of the forearm, often with limited movement.
In addition to the curve of the wrist and forearm, your child may have a missing or small thumb.
When describing a specific side of the forearm, you may hear your child's doctor refer to the "radial side," which means the side of the arm on which the thumb lies, corresponding to the radius bone of the forearm. The doctor may also refer to the "ulnar side," which describes the side on which the little finger lies, corresponding to the ulna bone.
Radial dysplasia affects between one in 55,000 and 100,000 babies.
Functional consequences depend upon the severity of radial dysplasia. In the most severe cases, your child may have very limited range of motion at the wrist because her radius is completely absent. Other problems that cause limited function include:
• an underdeveloped or missing thumb
• abnormal muscles in the forearm, wrist, and hand
• curvature and/or shortening of the ulna
In mild cases, the radius is merely slightly smaller than the ulna and there is minimal wrist deviation. This generally does not cause many problems with your child's development or hand function.
If your child is diagnosed with radial dysplasia, your doctor will check for other associated deformities or syndromes, including problems with the:
• heart (such as Holt-Oram syndrome, also called hand-heart syndrome)
• kidneys, spinal column and/or digestive system (such as VACTERL syndrome)
• blood cells (such as Fanconi anemia, TAR)
Additional anomalies can occur with radial dysplasia, including:
• bone/joint anomalies
• muscle/tendon anomalies
• nerve/artery anomalies
Radial dysplasia usually occurs sporadically (by chance). Doctors and scientists don't know why radial dysplasia affects certain children.
In some children, radial dysplasia is associated with other congenital anomalies or syndromes that are known to have a genetic component. Some associated deformities or syndromes include those of the:
• heart (such as Holt-Oram syndrome, also called hand-heart syndrome)
• kidneys, spinal column and/or digestive system (such as VACTERL syndrome)
• blood cells (such as Fanconi anemia)
• thrombocytopenia-absent radius syndrome (TAR)
Signs of radial dysplasia may include:
• The affected arm is shorter, with curving of the forearm and stiffness of the wrist and fingers.
• The thumb is either very small or missing.
The arrangement of muscles and nerves may be unbalanced, and some muscles and nerves may even be missing.
Your child's doctor will know by sight that your baby's hand has a radial dysplasia. The doctor will refer you to a hand specialist, who will guide you to a more detailed diagnosis and treatment plan.
If your child is diagnosed with radial dysplasia, you may feel overwhelmed with information. It can be easy to lose track of the questions that occur to you. Lots of parents find it helpful to jot down questions as they arise—that way, when you talk to your child's doctors, you can be sure that all of your concerns are addressed.
Some of the questions you may want to ask include:
• What is happening to my child, and why?
• What will x-rays reveal?
• What actions might you take after you review my child's x-rays?
• Is surgery necessary? Are there alternative therapies?
• Will my child be OK after surgery?
• Will my child recover full function of her hand? Will it look OK?
• Will there be restrictions on her activities or capabilities?
• What will be the long-term effects?
• What can we do at home?
• absent radius: condition in which the inner forearm bone (radius) is completely missing; occurs in Type 4
radial dysplasia
• The Center for Families at Children's: dedicated to helping families find the information, services
and resources they need to understand their child's medical condition and take part in their care in radial dysplasia
• congenital: present at birth
• embryonic development: development of the fetus in the womb
• in utero: in the womb (uterus)
• occupational and physical therapy: services offered by trained professionals to help restore function or
(re)teach basic life skills, like dressing oneself or grasping objects
• orthopedics: the medical specialty concerned with diagnosing, treating, rehabilitating and preventing disorders
and injuries to the spine, skeletal system and associated muscles, joints and ligaments
• orthopedic surgeon, orthopedist: a physician specializing in surgical and non-surgical treatment of the spine,
skeletal system and associated muscles, joins and ligaments
• osteotomy: surgery that involves cutting bone
• passive motion: motion in a body part guided by a helper, rather than by the patient
• pollicization: surgical procedure in which a thumb is constructed from an existing index finger
• post-operative (post-op): occurring after surgery
• prenatal (fetal) ultrasound:ultrasound performed at several stages of pregnancy; may detect radial dysplasia
in the fetus
• pre-operative (pre-op): occurring before surgery
• radial dysplasia (radial longitudinal deficiency): a deformity in which the radius bone of the forearm doesn't
develop properly, causing the hand to angulate toward the thumb-side of the forearm with limited movement
• radius: forearm bone on the thumb-side
• range of motion (ROM) exercises: physical therapy exercises designed to improve or restore flexion and
extension of joints
• reconstructive surgery: surgery performed to repair and/or restore a body part to normal or as near normal
as possible
• sporadic: occurring without apparent genetic cause
• thumb aplasia: complete absence of the thumb
• thumb hypoplasia: underdevelopment of the thumb; can occur with radial dysplasia
• ulna: bone on the little finger side of the forearm
• x-rays: a diagnostic test that uses invisible ionizing radiation to produce images of internal tissues, bones, and
organs onto film
Boston Children's is so much more than a hospital—it's a community of researchers, clinicians, administrators, support staff, innovators, teachers, patients and families, all working together to make the impossible possible.

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text: On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote:> NO.>> Guys, I will say this once more: git will not look at the signature.>> That means that we don't "strip them off", because dammit, they DO NOT> EXIST as far as git is concerned. This is why a tag-file will _always_> start with>> commit <commit-sha1>> tag <tag-name>>> because that way we can use fsck and validate reachability and have > things that want trees (or commits) take tag-files instead, and git > will automatically look up the associated tree/commit. And it will > do so _without_ having to understand about signing, since signing > is for trust between _people_ not for git.> And that is why I from the very beginning tried to make ti very > clear that the signature goes at the end. Not at the beginning, not > in the middle, and not in a different file. IT GOES AT THE END.Actually, can you make the signature be detached and a seperate object? Ie, add a signature object in its own right, distinct from tag. They could then:- be used to sign any kind of object- allow objects to be signed by multiple peopleIdeally, there'd be an index of signature objects by the SHA-1 sum of the object they sign, as the signed object should not refer to the signature (or the second of the above is not possible).The latter of the two points would, in combination with the former, allow for cryptographic 'signed-off-by' chains. If a 'commit' is signed by $RANDOM_CONTRIBUTOR and $SUBSYSTEM_MAINTAINER and $ANDREW, you know its time to pull it. Would also work for things like "fixes only" trees, where (say) a change must be approved by X/2+1 of a group of X hacker providing oversight -> looking up the commit object's signatures would tell you whether it was approved.No idea whether this is possible or practical. :) But it would be good for future flexibility to avoid including the signature in the object being signed.regards,-- Paul Jakma firstname.lastname@example.com email@example.com Key ID: 64A2FF6AFortune:You give me space to belong to myself yet without separating me from your own life. May it all turn out to your happiness. -- Goethe-To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" inthe body of a message to email@example.com majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.htmlPlease read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


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