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In Where the Conflict Really Lies, which James Beebe has nicely reviewed, Alvin Plantinga discusses nomological necessity, the necessity had by physical laws. As he (and everybody else) points out, propositions like
2) Every sphere made of gold is less than 1/2 mile in diameter
are true and universal. However, there is a clear sense in which (2) is not necessary in the sense required for lawhood (the sort of necessity we call 'nomological necessity'). On the other hand, the proposition that no object can increase from a velocity less than the speed of light to a velocity more than the speed of light is nomologically necessary. Also, it does not seem that this proposition is necessary in the broadly logical or metaphysical sense; the law seems contingent.
How are we to understand nomological necessity? Plantinga suggests:
The sense in which the laws of nature are necessary, therefore, is that they are propositions God has established or decreed, and no creature–no finite power, we might say–has the power to act against these propositions, that is, to bring it about that they are false (281).
(Moon's comment: the second conjunct here seems to be entailed by the first; if God has "established or decreed the proposition", then no finite power can make it false. So, the second conjunct is technically redundant, but I think it is still informative.) Plantinga goes on to illustrate,
It is as if God says: "Let c, the speed of light, be such that no material object accelerates from a velocity less than c to a velocity greater than c"; no creaturely power is then able to cause a material object to accelerate from a velocity less than c to one greater than c. The laws of nature, therefore, resemble necessary truths in that there is nothing we or other creatures can do to render them false… Though these laws are finitely violable, they are nevertheless contingent, in that it is not necessary, not part of the divine nature, to institute or promulgate just these laws. God could have created the world in such a way that the speed of light should have something quite different from c (281)
Plantinga later writes, while summing up the section,
Third, theism enables us to understand the necessity or inevitableness or inviolability of natural law: this necessity is to be explained and understood in terms of the difference between divine power and the power of finite creature. Again, from the point of view of naturalism, the character of these laws is something of an enigma. What is this alleged necessity that they display, weaker than logical necessity, but necessity nonetheless? (283)
Two questions. First, can anybody think of any problems with Plantinga's theistic account? Second, I wonder if naturalists do have alternative accounts of nomological necessity. Plantinga does mention/cite how some naturalists have reduced nomological necessity to metaphysical necessity; I wonder if there are naturalists who don't take this route. This is outside of my area, so I'm curious what other people know.
Minor nitpick: it is more precise to formulate the example of "speed-limit" as the inviolable magnitude of 4-velocity vectors. Talking about the geometric speed of light without reference to the time dimension doesn't adequately account for relativistic time dilation.
While I don't own a reference work about, and am not particularly conversant with, philosophic accounts of natural law, I do know that the following text is an excellent place to start: http://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Science-Central-Martin-Curd/dp/0393971759
A related question: Would it be a theistic account of natural laws that construed them as shared causal powers or relations between universals, or whatever, but then added that God brings about these powers, relations, etc? I suspect that if the view is that the powers, etc, are not so much as intelligible or possible on naturalism, then the account must count as theistic. On the other hand, if the view is that such things are otherwise intelligible or possible, then theism is a little more incidental to the account. (Compare: do theistic botanists with otherwise the same views as atheistic botanists on flowers, have an alternative theistic account of the nature of flowers?)
So I suspect that if there is something (particularly that governs the behavior of things) that God brings about when he says "such-and-such is a law" and that is intelligible or possible on naturalism, then the account isn't exactly theistic, and the naturalist could posit that reality, whatever it be, but absent God, as an alternative account. Just my initial thought. But then perhaps I don't understand Plantinga's views here properly; I haven't read the book.
As for naturalists who do not reduce nomological necessity to metaphysical necessity, I think Armstrong would be an example (at least Armstrong around 1983) as would Lewis. But these views aren't closely related to their views on naturalism or theism, I think.
Thanks, and as you noted, it is minor; nothing stands or falls on that bit.
Well, I don't think Plantinga's saying that naturalists don't have an account of laws, but that they don't have an account of what it is for laws to be necessary. This may also help:
The philosopher David Armstrong at one time spoke of laws as involving a necessitating relationship among universals: a law is just the expression of a certain necessary relationship between universals. But, as David Lewis pointed out, naming this relation "necessity" doesn't tell us much.
Interestingly, after this citing of Armstrong ("What is a Law of Nature?, 1985), Plantinga goes on to say, "Armstrong later decided that the laws of nature are logically necessary after all, prompted no doubt by the difficulty of saying what this other brand of necessity might be" (280). He unfortunately doesn't give a citation.
God's establishing or decreeing some proposition is what it is for that proposition to be necessary; this explains why no finite creature can violate the law (make the proposition false). We cannot make false what God determines to be true. As far as I can tell, this is a uniquely theistic account; I think I didn't understand you where you seemed to imply that a naturalist could make use of it.
So God decrees that every sphere of gold is less than 1 mile in diameter. Infidels try time and time again to make a giant sphere to violate this decree and God strikes them with lightning. Seems to me that (2) isn't a law, but we have a decree backed by the sort of violence that prevents its violation. Counterexample? That seems to depend upon whether a decree is necessary or sufficient. If intended tobe sufficient, we have a counterexample. If only necessary, I suspect the example just shows hat this "account" is not terribly illuminating.
I don't think that on the theistic account these decrees and backed by any violence. God maintains these physical laws by preserving all of creation according to these "decrees". So God has set up (or created or established) the physical universe in such a way that the speed of light is the universal speed limit, say.
As for (2) not being a law, Andrew said as much in the original post when he said, "However, there is a clear sense in which (2) is not necessary in the sense required for lawhood"
1. This seems to make the content of each divine promise into a law of nature. But it doesn't seem correct to say that it is a law of nature that all those who accept Christ and live according to the Spirit are saved, or that bread and wine changes into Christ's body and blood at Mass, or that the Pope does not err in ex cathedra pronouncements.
2. Moon: 'the second conjunct here seems to be entailed by the first; if God has "established or decreed the proposition", then no finite power can make it false. So, the second conjunct is technically redundant, but I think it is still informative.' Actually, given Plantinga's Molinism, you do need the second conjunct. Given Molinism, we can say that God established or decreed the proposition that David would freely accept the kingship of Israel. He did this by noting that the conditionals of free will are such that if David is put in certain circumstances, he will accept the kingship, and then deliberately putting David in those circumstances so that he might accept the kingship. But it is not a law of nature that David would freely accept the kingship, and David had the power to refuse. Similarly on Calvinism or Thomism we can say that God can cause someone to freely do something, in such a way that in some important sense the person could have acted otherwise.
3. So it's important to Plantinga's view that both conjuncts be there. I wonder how explicitly on Plantinga's view God has to will that no creature should have such-and-such a power. Suppose God chooses to create no creature. Then is he implicitly willing that no creature should have a power to make a cake, because there not being any creature entails that no creature has the power to make a cake? If so, then in a world where there is nothing but God, it is a law of nature that there are no cakes. And that doesn't seem right. So it's not enough that God should will something that entails that no creature can do something to make a law. So God has to explicitly will that no creature be able to do it. But now what evidence do we actually have that God explicitly willed, say, that no creature have the power to make something go faster than light?
4. Couldn't an angel do something contrary to a law of nature? If so, the account fails, since angels are creatures.
5. A minor tweak is needed. Plausibly, anything that's metaphysically necessary, say that 2+2=4 or that God exists, is also nomologically necessary. But God surely doesn't decree that God exist or that no creature should have the power to make 2+2 not be 4. So the account needs to be extended. Maybe the things that God decrees in the way Plantinga describes should count as primitively nomologically necessary, and then anything that follows of metaphysical necessity from primitively nomologically necessary propositions counts as nomologically necessary.
Hi Roland,
Thanks for the note. I think that Clayton was saying that in his supposed/alternate scenario (where God strikes down infidels, (2) would still not be a law. But according to Plantinga's account, it's supposed to be.
Clayton and Alex,
Very nice comments. I wouldn't've thought of those on my own (or at least it would have taken me longer). I'll think about them, and if I have anything else to say, I'll post a comment.
Clayton and Alex,
Note that Plantinga's not giving an account of lawhood, but an account of the necessity of lawhood; given that p is a law, what is it for that law to be necessary? His account answers that. So, I don't think Plantinga's committed to saying that (2) (in Clayton's scenario) is a law of nature or that each divine promise is a law of nature (as Alex mentions). I'll have to think about the other comments some more.
I don't know whether this would answer your question, but you might try looking at Marc Lange's paper , 'Laws and Their Stability'. John Roberts has a paper, 'Some Laws of Nature are Metaphysically Contingent', trying to show that even on scientific essentialism there are some contingent laws. That account could secure necessary laws as well as contingent laws. And I take it that that the accounts are pretty consistent with theism as well as naturalism.
I find Plantinga's claims here puzzling. Why would we need an account of the necessity of natural laws? Laws are exceptionless regularities by definition. The reason no finite creature can violate a law of nature is that, divine decree or not, were one to do so, it would not be a law. So the necessity of these laws is a property of laws whether you're a necessitarian about natural laws or a regularity theorist or anything in between. It's not a contingent feature of laws that they disallow violation by finite beings (or anyone else). So what is he explaining? Further, the 'necessity' of natural laws that issues from God's decree is no less consistent with there being the sorts of "law violation" by finite beings needed to preserve freedom in deterministic worlds. If you happen to be an old fashioned compatibilist (a lewis style compatibilist, say) you will argue that same way and no less effectively. If L is a natural law of w, and given L it is determined that finite being S does A in w, S can (is able to, has the power to or whatev) do other than A. But S's doing so occurs in w' (not w) and L is "violated" in w' (not w). In short, S can act in such a way that (as we all know) were S to do so, L would not be a law. So there is nothing about divinely decreed laws that makes the familiar old fashioned compatibilist position any less tenable (NB: I'm not claiming it is (or isn't) tenable or that anyone should (or should not) be an o.f. compatibilist). Divine decrees don't make it any less possible to "violate laws" in the way needed to preserve o.f. compatibilism. So, whether you are a regularity theorist or a Plantingan theorist about laws, the way in which they are inviolable is the same, and the way in which they are "violable" is the same.
I am actually quite friendly to Plantingaâs view, but I can see someone objecting to it as ad hoc or non-explanatory. Consider that there are laws of physics, laws of chemistry, laws of biology, etc., and corresponding senses of physical necessity, chemical necessity, biological necessity, etc. We might ask what differentiates these necessities. One answer would be polytheistic: there is a physics god whose decrees constitute physical necessity, a chemistry god whose decrees constitute chemical necessity, a biology god etc. etc.
A pretty good reply to this suggestion is that such a polytheist is just making things up. I think the atheist would be tempted in the same direction toward Plantingaâs suggestion. My thought is that Plantingaâs suggestion might be taken seriously after you already have some reason to believe in a God, but not as free-standing evidence in its own right.
Just to be clear, Plantinga is not trying to make an inference to the best explanation, arguing that God is the best explanation of the necessity of laws. Instead, he is trying to show, in this chapter, a concord between theism and some aspect of science (the necessity of laws).
Ah I see. Apologies to Clayton… I misread.
Another gripe. It is common for people to say that laws support counterfactuals in ways that accidental generalizations do not. If you are a necessitarian about laws, it is easy to see how this is supposed to work. It is tricky to see how you could do this without necessitarianism, but people have tried it using contingent relations between universals. I can see why someone might be skeptical of any attempt to explain how a law could support a cf without any appeal to necessitarianism about laws, but surely there would be something deeply disappointing about a proposed solution that simply invokes the deity. So, how does P pull it off? If he accepts the necessitarian view, God would be otiose. If he rejects the necessitarian view, what arehis grounds for doing so? How does God help explain how a law supports a cf (e.g.,if this metal had been heated, it would expand?)
Quick addition. This follows up on Tg's post.
On P's view, what is God supposed to have done in establishing a law? There's the decree and then there's everything subsequent to it. Should we think of the law as something established as a _consequence_ of the decree or is P's view that the law includes the decree itself? If the former, then it isn't clear why the naturalist cannot take on board P's view of what a law is. Maybe P means the latter. Then it's clear why the naturalist cannot help herself to P's view. (It's also clear that his view isn't well stated on this reading since he says, "we can think of the necessity of natural law both as a consequence and also as a sort of measure of divine power".)
If P means the latter, then it seems that P does indeed have a strange view of laws. I might be wrong about this, but I don't think P has at any point argued against the necessitarian view of laws and hasn't argued that there aren't the necessary relations between universals that those in this camp take laws to be. If there were necessary relations between universals of the sort that the necessitarian thought constituted a law, it seems they would hold independent from any divine decree. What would the decree add? I don't see that it would add much of anything at all.
There might be interesting ways of filling in the details to formulate an interesting view (e.g., if P had engaged with Shoemaker), but this section goes by far too quickly.
The support of counterfactuals should follow from nomic necessitation. Suppose we have a true material conditional:
(a) If A, then B
such that the whole conditional (a) is more necessary than the negation of the antecedent A. Then I think we can conclude:
(a) Were it that A, it would be that B.
I am thinking here something like: Paradigmatic empirical claims (e.g., I am sitting now) are less necessary (indeed, not necessary at all) than nomic claims and paradigmatic nomic claims (e.g., massive objects attract) are less necessary than metaphysically necessary claims.
Being entailed by the decrees of God is then a grade of necessity, and hence when a material conditional follows from the decrees of God, but the negation of its antecedent does not (and does not have some other, stronger kind of necessity either), the corresponding subjunctive conditional also goes.
The only problem with this version is that in a two-sided deterministic universe it yields backwards conditions. But that conclusion has been defended by Bennett and isn't a knock-down argument against the position, especially since determinism is in fact false.
By the way, my principle of when one can go from a material conditional to a subjunctive conditional can also yield non-trivial per impossibile counterfactuals whenever we have a grade of necessity stronger than metaphysical necessity. E.g., definitional necessity, or first order provability.
It is common for people to say that laws support counterfactuals in ways that accidental generalizations do not. If you are a necessitarian about laws, it is easy to see how this is supposed to work. It is tricky to see how you could do this without necessitarianism
I'm (still) not sure what this has to do with necessitariansim. Regularity theorists might just as easily say the same thing,viz. that laws support counterfactuals. All you need for that claim to be true–at least on the recieved views of counterfactuals–is that worlds in which laws (whatever the correct metaphysics happens to be) are broken are typically very distant worlds. Laws weigh heavily in assessing similarity. Regularity theorists agree with this, of course. But what basis could a regularity theorist have for making such a claim? They have the same basis for such a claim as anyone else does: we look at the way counterfactuals are in fact evaluated and we discover that we laws typically matter a lot to similarity. There is no way in which the metaphysics of laws figures into the assessment of these counterfactuals. Not that I can see anyway.
Plantinga's claim above also has nothing to do, that I can tell, with the metaphysics of laws.
The sense in which the laws of nature are necessary, therefore, is that they are propositions God has established or decreed, and no creature–no finite power, we might say–has the power to act against these propositions, that is, to bring it about that they are false
The fact that no creature–no finite power, we might say–has the power to act against these propositions, that is, to bring it about that they are false has to do with the fact that they are laws. It has nothing to do with the metaphysics of laws.
Just an incidental note: I know what it means to say that a law is inviolable. But I have no idea what it means to say that a law is necessary in some 'weaker sense' than metaphysically necessary. For instance, that a proposition P (which is a law in W) also holds in 25 other worlds does not make it true that P is necessary in any sense (weak or strong) that I can think of. It's a contingent proposition.
"I have no idea what it means to say that a law is necessary in some 'weaker sense' than metaphysically necessary."
Consider claims like: "For a human to survive, it is necessary that she have nutrition, hydration and oxygen." This is a necessity claim, but it is not a metaphysical necessity claim, since it is metaphysically possible for humans to survive without nutrition, hydration or oxygen. The necessity here is a weaker one than the metaphysical one. Ordinary language includes senses of "necessary" that are weaker than metaphysical necessity. Isn't that all one needs to make sense of the claim that a law is necessary in some weaker sense?
On my view, possibility is grounded in the powers of things. Stronger senses of possibility correspond to restricting the powers that can be used in the grounding. Thus, creaturely possibility is possibility grounded in the powers of creatures. Stronger senses of possibility then correspond to weaker senses of necessity.
How do you understand metaphysical possibility? My understanding is that metaphysical possibility refers to possible states of the actual world (whereas logical possibility to any world which does not entail internal contradictions). But this understanding does not comport with your âit is metaphysically possible for humans to survive without nutrition, hydration or oxygenâ.
On my view, possibility is grounded in the powers of things. Stronger senses of possibility correspond to restricting the powers that can be used in the grounding.
I asked how it could be that 'laws' are necessary in some weaker sense. I still can't see how. I don't think the examples you offer are really examples of weak necessities. They are just conditional metaphysical necessities: e.g., Metaphysically necessary [Humans of the sort we find in @ survive only if they have nutrition]. It's not another special sort of necessity. And that's good since we shouldn't be multiplying modalities anyway.
On the other claim, I'm inclined to agree that possibility is grounded in powers (in some sense), since I'm inclined to deny brute possibilities. Roughly, I'm inclined to deny the distinction between a world being actualizable and a world being possible. For what it's worth, Plantinga affirms brute possiblities, and maintains that distinction (which has an important role in his FWD). If you think that possibility is grounded in powers, you probably have a nice modal rebuttal to FWD.
"I don't think the examples you offer are really examples of weak necessities. They are just conditional metaphysical necessities"
Well, that's one theory of weaker necessities, that they are just conditional metaphysical necessities. I don't think it's the correct theory of weaker necessities, though. 🙂
That's an interesting objection to the FWD, by the way.
"I'm (still) not sure what this has to do with necessitariansim. Regularity theorists might just as easily say the same thing,viz. that laws support counterfactuals. All you need for that claim to be true–at least on the recieved views of counterfactuals–is that worlds in which laws (whatever the correct metaphysics happens to be) are broken are typically very distant worlds."
I didn't want to say that one needs the necessitarian view to understand how the cfs come out as true, only that one desiderata of an adequate account of laws is that there's a non-cheesy way for the cfs to come out as true. Easy to see how this should work if, say, you endorsed Shoemaker's view. Not at all clear how this comes out as true on the divine decree account.
Plantinga can still do the same thing about counterfactuals are regularity theorists, but perhaps with a different closeness measure. One way to do that is to take a closeness measure that weighs more explanatorily prior similarities more heavily. Then since the decrees in question are explanatorily very fundamental–they condition more particular decrees as well as particular events–they will get carried over into counterfactual scenarios.
In my Worlds book, I have suggested that regularity theorists should probably put a greater weight on temporally prior similarity, as Lewis's non-time-weighted account fails (given Adam Elga's counterexamples as well as mine). So all Plantinga has to do is to replace temporal priority with explanatory priority.
I don't know whether this would answer your question, but you might try looking at Marc Lange's paper , 'Laws and Their Stability'. John Roberts has a paper, 'Some Laws of Nature are Metaphysically Contingent', trying to show that even on scientific essentialism there are some contingent laws.


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Kate Gosselin cancels cruise after low sales
Kate Gosselin cancels cruise event after low sales
The world is just going to have to wait a bit longer for the Kate Gosselin Cruise Liner Express.
The former Kate Plus 8 star has shuttered plans to launch her own event aboard a Royal Caribbean cruise ship this summer in the face of tepid turnout and disappointing sales.
Fans had been invited to sail the high seas with the reality show mama from August 12-19, but now it seems some will be staying on dry land.
Tickets were priced between $1,900-$3,175 a pop.
"Yes, that event has been canceled, a rep for the luxury cruise company told Radar Online. We just didn't get the turnout that we desired and mutually we agreed that if we didn't get it, we would cancel."
All passes to hang out with the mother of eight have since been refunded, although some have chosen to continue on with the cruise, but everyone was given the choice," the rep said.
Gosselin's said to have called each ticket holder individually to apologize for the disappointment.
"It was nothing to do with her," the cruise line rep said. "We needed to hit certain numbers and they just weren't where they needed to be."
I for one am shocked!
Could it be that some people have come to their senses. I guess her 15 min of fame is over.
She seemed nice on the phone..........:cool:
Snoozeman - sorry for your loss, I know you will bounce back :wink:
How very shocking! :p
Like the rest of you, I'm amazed ! I can't think of anything I'd rather do :shock:!
Why anyone would book this cruise is a mystery to me. (Hey, maybe that's a new show!)
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Rory O'Carroll: I'm open to the idea I may never play for Dublin again
All-Star leaving behind a shot at history and admits he may never play for Dublin again
For most on the inter-county circuit, the thought of walking away from the chance to be among the most decorated players in your county's illustrious history would be too much to even contemplate.
A fourth All-Ireland medal would set Rory O'Carroll apart in Dublin GAA circles but in a little over a fortnight, he'll get on a plane to start what will be at least a year abroad with a smile on his face.
For others, departing the stage a moment sooner than is absolutely necessary is unthinkable.
It's not that O'Carroll doesn't care, it's just that he's maybe not as blinkered as the rest of us. When he's playing, the GAA is his world, but it's never his whole universe.
"Everyone is different. I'm very comfortable with those sort of things and I suppose I've done it in the past and that has made it easier," O'Carroll said, at the launch of the adidas and Life Style Sports Boost Run that takes place in Dun Laoghaire on Friday, March 4.
"While when I'm in that bubble I take it very seriously and it's something I love to do but I also love to do other things.
"Maybe that makes it a bit easier. I can only speak for myself, and as I said I will miss it and I will miss a lot of aspects of it, but there are other avenues and paths in life I'd like to go down as well."
He couldn't be called an accidental footballer but he can certainly take it or leave it.
In late 2008, he was a sub on the Kilmacud Crokes team when then manager Paddy Carr called on him in that year's Leinster final to help put the shackles on a marauding Rhode team. The following March he was Crokes' starting full-back as they won the All-Ireland.
Later than year, Pat Gilroy handed him his championship debut against Westmeath but he hardly stalked the opportunity. A few weeks after that O'Carroll was in the Far East travelling with friends.
College work saw him spend time in France which saw him miss a league campaign. Ever since making his breakthrough, O'Carroll has been aware of life outside football.
"First of all I was surprised I was on the (Crokes) senior team. I was thinking, 'I suppose I'm just here to, you know, just bring in a few minors type of thing'. Then I was just happy enough to be on the panel, let alone anything else.
"Then when I got on in that game I was delighted to get on as a sub and then I suppose it just went from there.
"So I wasn't thinking much along those lines (of winning All-Irelands). I had only played a year at minor and hadn't played U-21 yet."
Three All-Ireland medals later and O'Carroll's place in Dublin history is assured but his next 12 months will be very different.
He's unsure if he'll be waking up in the small hours to follow the fortunes of his former team-mates from New Zealand. In any case, he "prefers watching hurling".
And so far this year, the TV screen is the closest he's been to the Dublin set-up as they have made a perfect start to the league.
His schedule is much more relaxed now and he's winding down his job as a social worker here before going travelling.
His body is glad of the rest too though he's keen to stress the prospect of picking up another concussion wasn't a factor in his decision to travel.
Work will bring him to Auckland and he's aware there are three GAA clubs there that will help him keep his eye in. At 26, time is on his side and he could yet return to play for Gavin. Some suggest he might even go hurling on his return though that's not to say he'll be back in a Dublin jersey, or even in Ireland, any time soon.
In fact he's prepared for the possibility he'll never play again. And he is at peace with that.
"Older players might be able to answer this but do they look back on their careers and think about how many medals they won or do they think about the different times and the moments and this match or that match?
"I'd like to think that those are the things I'd think about in 30 years' time rather than the number of medals I actually won. That's the way I look at it.
"I don't believe in retiring as such. What I have said to Jim (Gavin) is I asked him not to consider me for selection for the 2016 season.
"That could last forever and I might never play for Dublin again but I don't like to put any limits or titles on things.
"I'm open to the idea I could play again, I'm open to the idea I may never play again.
"I'll just see how it goes. I'm not too worried about what is down the line."
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An inland traditional county of Wales, bounded to the north by Montgomeryshire and Shropshire, to the east by Herefordshire, to the south by Brecknockshire and to the west by Cardiganshire.
Radnor or Radnorshire is one of thirteen historic and former administrative counties of Wales. It is represented by the Radnorshire area of Powys, which according to the 2001 census, had a population of 24,805. The historic county is bounded to the north by Montgomeryshire and Shropshire, to the east by Herefordshire, to the south by Brecknockshire and to the west by Cardiganshire. The county was formed from the cantrefs of Maelienydd and Elfael and the commotes of Gwrtheyrnion and Deuddwr by the Laws in Wales Acts 1535-1542. New Radnor was considered the county town, although it historically shared administrative functions with Presteigne where the Assizes sat. Radnor County Council and later the District Council were based instead at Llandrindod Wells. The administrative county formed under the Local Government Act 1888 was abolished by the Local Government Act 1972 in 1974, with its area being transferred to the newly created county of Powys. Powys was divided into three districts, one of which was coterminous with Radnorshire. The district was renamed Radnorshire in 1989. Since Powys became a unitary authority in 1996, Radnorshire has been one of three areas formed under a decentralisation scheme. A "shire committee" consisting of councillors elected for electoral divisions within the former district of Radnorshire exercises functions delegated by Powys County Council.
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the least populous of the Welsh counties; lies on the English border between Montgomery (N.) and Brecknock (S.); has a wild and dreary surface, mountainous and woody. Radnor Forest covers an elevated heathy tract in the E.; is watered by the Wye and the Teme. The soil does not favour agriculture, and stock-raising is the chief industry. Contains some excellent spas, that at Llandrindod the most popular. County town, Presteign. Radowitz, Joseph von
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I originally saw this pitch for The Muppet Show at a Jim Henson retrospective at Cinefamily in Los Angeles a couple of years ago and it instantly became one of my favorite things ever. The odd part is (if I remember correctly) CBS passed on it. Eventually, Kermit would hop the pond to England and land at ITV. Most people don't realize that The Muppet Show was actually a British show that was syndicated in the US. This was yet another example of British TV ruling, while American TV was left drooling.
Jim Henson would have been 75 years old today, but even in his short life he managed to change the world forever and make it a better place. The problem with "kids" shows today is that they are too hyper-programmed with crappy market research at children–shows adults cringe to have to watch. The Muppet Show was something that cool parents would LOOK FORWARD to watching with their kids. It just worked for everyone. Schwaaa??? Fun, hilarious, SHARED family comedy? Why that's just cRaZy!!!
So Happy Birthday, Jim Henson! I'm sorry I never got to thank you in person for your generous contributions in shaping who I am from basic spelling skills to more advanced letter combinations like joke writing.
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Tomorrow will be nothing like today. It may look and feel a lot like today – you'll get up, have breakfast, exercise, go off to work, etc. But tomorrow will be nothing like today. Tomorrow there will be 600,000 new smartphone activations, 540,000 new computers sold, hundreds of thousands of new cloud computing credentials issued, hundreds more petabytes of data traveling through the Internet, thousands more miles driven by autonomous vehicles, millions of new words interpreted by Natural Language Understanding (NLU) systems, billions of new patterns learned by machines, and billions of new lines of code created. Tomorrow will be nothing like today.
With that in mind, it might be fun to think about how some of things that will make tomorrow different might impact how you spend your day. So let's play a game about the future called, "What Do You Believe?"
First we will list a set of assumptions. Then we will craft a set of thought experiments to help visualize the future we assume and put some timing around it. Then we will ask two simple questions: (1) Do you believe in the future you've envisioned? (2) How will you spend your day in the future you've envisioned?
What Do You Believe?
To help you get started, here are a few things I believe. You may (and should) have a different set of theses, but feel free to adopt any of the following:
- The big will get bigger, the small will survive, and the middle will perish.
- Consumers of every economic stratum will demand "on demand."
- Access is becoming as valuable as ownership – streaming media instead of buying a download, ride-sharing instead of buying a car, etc. You will pay for it with cash, data, or a combination of both.
- Anything you can talk to will understand and talk back – Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR), NLU, and related technologies coupled with Augmented Reality and machine learning will have a radically disruptive impact on the way we live our lives.
- As a result of ride-sharing, the auto industry will contract by 20 percent.
- Traffic will increase because ride-sharing service cars will always be in motion.
- AI will start taking white-collar jobs more quickly than experts predict. If just 20 percent of white-collar jobs evaporate, the economic impact will be profound.
- New technology will not replace all of the jobs that new technology displaces.
- Commoditized products that are hard to pronounce or spell (or speak) or hard to search will quickly become unprofitable.
- The convergence of on demand, machine learning, and autonomy will change the world.
- Data is more powerful in the presence of other data.
- Anything that can be connected will be connected.
- Anything that can be hacked will be hacked.
- Distribution channel disruption is accelerating.
- Due to the increasing world population, we cannot train enough doctors, dentists, and other health care professionals.
- Fresh water is a scarce resource, and natural supplies will diminish quickly over the next 30 years.
- "Big Food" may go the way of "Big Tobacco" as health care costs rise.
- The tools used to access the free and open Internet have enabled users to filter out anything that makes them uncomfortable and have exacerbated the negative effects of confirmation bias.
- The entire education system is too expensive and is not producing qualified candidates for newly created jobs.
- Climate change will cause sea levels to rise over the next 50 years.
I'm intentionally leaving politics and terrorism off this list – you need to put them back.
I could go on listing my theses and assumptions, but I'm sure you get the idea. Think about the future in a holistic way and try to incorporate as many aspects of your world view as you can. You can categorize them several different ways: personal behavior, consumer behavior (shopping, media, sports, eating, cooking, housing, etc.), industry behavior. Organize your theses in any way that works for you.
What Will Happen?
Let's think about each assumption. For example: "We cannot train enough doctors." What probable futures or opportunities does this thesis suggest? Just keep trying to adapt the current healthcare system until it breaks? Invent some new ways to increase efficiency? Create Dr. McCoy's Medical Tricorder? (That's a Star Trek reference. Google it, and look up the Tricorder Xprize while you're at it.)
Add Timing and Changes
Now imagine a future where you have used technology (of any kind) to create a world you'd want to live in. For example: I envision a world where everyone has access to a device that can do basic medical examinations and increase wellness outcomes by diagnosing the most common, treatable diseases and providing access to the cures at an affordable price. Does this exist? Will it exist? Can it exist? If so, when? You cannot answer, "In the future." Put a number next to it. Two years, five years, 10 years, etc. What will change when this new technology or system exists? Write it down.
Bonus Points
For bonus points, think about how these various probable futures will interact with each other. For example: If there are fewer cars sold, what will happen to the work force? Not just the auto industry work force. What about parking lots? Gas stations? Convenience stores in gas stations? Auto parts stores? Strip malls? And so on.
Hello "New" World!
If you've played the game correctly, you will have created a world with some magical and some horrible attributes. It should not be Utopian, and it should not look like a post-Apocalyptic movie. Neither extreme is realistic.
Once you've envisioned this world, we get to the first main question: "What do you believe?" You've just crafted your vision for the future. You've taken your world view, information from others, and thoughts and opinions from everything you know and projected it onto a blank canvas. Is it your vision of the future? Do you believe it? If you don't, rework your thought experiments until you have high confidence in your beliefs.
Get Ready
Once you passionately believe in the future you've envisioned, the next step is to prepare for it. How will you spend your day? What will it take to get there? What investments need to be made? What will your competitors do in such a world? What if … But wait – this stuff won't happen until the future. I'm just playing a game about what it will be like.
Surprise Ending
It's not a game. It's a test. And your answers are your future. So let's take it from the top: What do you believe?
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Students have invited members of the public to submit their loudest screams in order to test whether they can be heard in outer space.
The Cambridge University physics undergraduates are testing out the "in space, no-one can hear you scream" theory, made famous by Ridley Scott's Alien blockbuster.
The university's spaceflight society (CUSF) will be uploading videos of human screams into a specifically developed smartphone app, which will then be shot into space on a satellite in December.
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Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy: Future, Fluke, or Still Improving?January 3, 2010
I recently did an article about how Vitor Belfort might have a chance against Anderson Silva. At first I wasn't going to do one about Dan Hardy and Georges, because originally I didn't think Hardy stood ANY chance. However, I recently realized this might not be true.
When Mike Swick beat Ben Saunders, sorry, CRUSHED the previously unbeaten Ben Saunders with his "Quick" hands, I was very impressed. This seemed like a fighter who could pose a decent challenge to Georges St. Pierre, or so I thought. He has great striking, which could make a situation similar to the Matt Serra incident possible. He also seemed to be able to have good stamina, and go the distance in decisions.
He seemed like a great fighter.
That is, until Dan Hardy came along.
Swick and Hardy were to fight a fight that would determine the next challenger to the almighty Georges St. Pierre. I figured Swick would easily dispatch Hardy, and so I was eagerly awaiting the fight between Swick and St. Pierre. The only thing I was really interested in in the fight between Swick and Hardy was how quickly Swick would (T)KO him.
Dan Hardy dominated the whole fight before taking home the win in the unanimous decision. It was completely unexpected and I had no idea what to think. I didn't even consider Hardy surviving the first round, let alone dominating the whole thing.
I, of course, instantly thought that Hardy was going to get destroyed by Georges. He didn't stand a chance. I also scoffed at how ridiculously confident Hardy was, stating things such as, "I am a fighter and Georges is an athlete." Yeah, right.
I thought a little bit more, and I decided it wasn't going to be as one-sided as people thought. Let's take a look at the record of this overconfident "Outlaw."
Surprisingly, Hardy has most of his losses in the beginning of his career, and he hasn't really been beaten in his last 13 fights. I don't count his DQ against Yoshida. Besides Swick, Hardy has also beaten Marcus Davis and Akhiro Gono. He has good striking, as he definitely proved against Swick.
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Travel slowly, staying in vacation rentals (villas, farms, cottages, apartments)
> SlowTrav > Europe Trip Planning
How to Survive the Heat of Summer Travel
How to survive the heat and still be touring your favorite Italy (or elsewhere) locations
2007 is expected to be a Niño year. This means an extra hot and muggy summer, but then summers are often hot and muggy and Italy, as well as many other European countries, is not particularly air conditioning (AC) friendly. Not traveling in the hottest months of summer is an option for many, but some of us are forced by job or school needs to travel only in July and August, despite the heat, the crowds, and the highier prices. So, what to do if you are stuck with a trip to Italy (or pick another country of your choice) in July? There are ways to protect yourselves from the heat when sightseeing outside or when no AC is available.
Pauline wrote notes about keeping your Italian vacation rental cool in the summer by using the shutters that most buildings have. In this article I will give you suggestions for dealing with the heat when outside. Some of my advice may be well-known, in which case I hope you will forgive me; other points may be new.
1. Dress cool.
Try to use clothing made of natural fibers. Artificial fibers, although lightweight, tend to trap the wetness inside, while natural fibers (cotton, linen) let it evaporate more easily. The one exception to the rule is viscose, which is nicely transpirant. Also, use the lightest fabrics you can find. Make sure your clothes are comfortable, avoid all tight clothing and opt for flowing over form-revealing. Swishy gowns and drapey shirts move around with you, allowing cooling and drier air to circulate on your skin, while tight clothing trap the hotter air and moisture close to the skin. Also, use light colors and white, which reflect the sun, over dark and black, which attract it.
2. Protect yourself from the sun.
Sunscreen may protect you from sunburn, but it does not protect you from the hot rays. If you are at a beach and wish to tan, a good sunscreen is perfect, but if you are taking a walk in the city you will need to protect yourself from the sun heat. Long trousers, especially if extremely light and large enough to let air circulate, or a long skirt, will keep you cooler than a pair of shorts that leave too much skin exposed to the direct, hot, sun rays. Also, wear a hat. Especially if you are bald or dark-haired. A white baseball cap may single you out as a tourist, but it will keep your head cooler and your eyes screened from the sun. If you don't want to stand out as much, grab a nice straw hat, a cotton knit or crocheted cap or a classy panama hat.
3. Drink a lot.
In most Italian cities you will easily find small fountains of drinking water. Stop for a free drink as soon as you feel thirsty. Bring a half liter bottle of water to be refilled at the fountains: no need for a thermos bottle, as long as you keep refilling the bottle quite often. Italian tap water is safe, in fact the controls on tap water are more strict than on bottled water. Drinking a lot may cause you also other urgencies. All bars have a restroom you can use for free, although purchasing a drink or a coffee is the polite thing to do, and you will find public restrooms in most towns.
4. Eat light.
Many suggest having your main meal at noon, but in summer the hot weather mixes with digestion to slow you down, especially if you also suffer from low blood pressure (something I am a bit of an expert about). Better to have light meals and a few snacks, especially if you opt for liquid and mineral replenishing ones like fruit or fruit-based gelato (sorbetto). At lunch opt for a big salad and fish secondo, or a nice caprese salad of tomatoes and mozzarella, or rice or pasta salad, or some other light, fresh and cool food. Leave heartier food for dinner, after the sun sets and the temperatures go down.
Young Slow Travelers cool down on a hot summer in Rome
5. Stick to the Italian timetable.
In Mediterranean countries, especially in summer, life starts pretty early in the morning, to better use the cooler hours of the day. Midday is time for the meal and to rest in a shady place; life resumes in the late afternoon ending in a pretty late but rich dinner. Have breakfast to your taste, a midmorning snack of fruit and a bit of bread, a late lunch (no earlier than 1pm) and, if possible, return to your lodging for a midday rest. Go back to the streets at 4pm or 5pm and keep going until the sun sets, then stop for dinner and return to your lodging for sleep. If returning to your apartment or hotel is not an option, look for nice churches to visit (they are usually pretty cool inside), check out some museums (they will also be empty at lunch time and usually have AC), look for a nice bar where you can drink something and relax, or find a shady park bench for a picnic.
6. Cool yourself down.
To prevent heat stroke, use the fountains to cool your hands, arms, legs and neck. These are the parts of the body where the blood vessels are close to the skin. When plunging your hands and wrists in cool water you immediately feel refreshed all over, since the very blood will cool down and spread the coolness over your whole body. If you are wearing a hat, wet it and return it to your head; the water evaporating will keep you cool even if the hat feels warm. If you are not wearing a hat, wet your hair. This is particularly nice if you are out walking.
8. Do not drink very icy drinks.
Or, at least, do not overdo them. Although a long drink of icy liquid may feel refreshing, the truth is that if you are already very hot and feeling dizzy due to low blood pressure, a too cold drink may cause the blood pressure to get further unbalanced. Better to drink cool but not extremely cold drinks.
9. I changed my mind: buy icy stuff.
Point 8 does not mean that icy drinks, popsicles and gelato will kill you or something, just that they must be had cum grano salis (with caution) . Buy a popsicle or a glass of a cold, icy drink. Allow the ice to melt slowly in your mouth or use the glass to cool your hands or lower arms. Sip slowly, so that your mouth will be extracting all of the available coolness without shocking your system.
10. Take advantage of the porticoed sidewalks.
Walk as much as possible on the shady side of the street. If there is no shade, pop into a few shops, look around and pretend you are going to buy something (or, buy something!), then leave. I find that bookshops are perfect for this: you can wander around and not get disturbed by the clerks. Spending as little as five minutes out of the sun and in a cooler place will regenerate you.
Sitting in the shade on the piazza in Volterra, Italy
11. Do not queue in the sun.
If you have to stand in a line under the sun, take turns with your travel partners. You don't have to all stand in the line for the whole time: have one person queue while the others stay in a cooler place and take turns until you are at the head of the queue.
12. Trust your body, and if heat is too much, trust Italian doctors.
Heat tires you out. If you suddenly feel very tired, dizzy or weighted down, you may be too hot or have lost too many salts with perspiration. Look for a shady place, drink water and eat a piece fruit or a raw tomato. Bring along a salt integrator, or even a small bottle with orange juice with a pinch of salt added: this will not disturb the juice's taste, but it will add precious salts. If you feel like fainting, or if one of your companions does, look for the most protected place, for a fountain with cool water or a bar or shop where to wet a handcherkief to place on your or your companion's neck. In case the person develops a fever or faints and cannot be roused in a couple of minutes, call 118 for an ambulance.
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PREDICTIONS: Next 7 games (rest of the year of 2012.)
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Re: PREDICTIONS: Next 7 games (rest of the year of 2012.)
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Dec. 17: vs Houston W
Dec. 19: vs Brooklyn W pick'em
Dec. 21: vs Chicago W pick'em
Dec. 23: vs Minnesota L
Dec. 25: @ LA Lakers L
Dec. 26: @ Phoenix W
Dec. 28: @ Sacramento W
It's ironic that the first 3 games the Knicks lost to these teams already. Its tough to predict which games we would win or lose. I have put it in the memory bank and I have never been absolutely right or close.
With that said. The home stand are 3 lose-able games for different reasons.
I think the Knicks can win against
they are without Patterson, Morris cant defend but can score. Harden and Parsons are problems. They now have Delfino back. But this team is a terrible road team!
will be rested and although its a back to back but the other game was at the Barclay Center. With time for Lopez to heal more and get acclimated again. This is an ugly gritty team with many parts struggling. This will be a close ugly game that can go either way. Considering the Nets are not good closers I will bet on the Knicks to win.
This will be another grind it out game.
is just winning ugly and the only consistent player is Noah. You cant predict who will go off for this team for example Deng or Boozer etc... Considering they would have time to prepare this is another pick'em game like the Nets. I say the Knicks will want this one and find a way to win a close one. On a side note at this time we should be looking for Stat's return.
This is a tough match up. Rubio, Love, AK and Peko for
are going to be a handful and they will have Rubio increasing minutes by this time. They would have had a few days off so I can see this one being our first loss.
Lakers lets just say all parts should be back on this day. Nash Paul Dhoward Black Mamba... Days off before this game at home Xmas.... I will just give them the benefit of the doubt. But I know the Knicks can win this game honestly. The Lakers defense is atrocious!
Pho and Kings are just 2 expansion teams. Depending on the injury situation for the Knicks and having Stat most likely back. These should be both W's!
Regardless of where the W's and L's are 5-2
or better would send a great message and the bandwagon will be full by New Years. The NBA will be buzzing and jumping especially if Stat comes in with his new role and is making it work! If Shump makes an early debut with Stat in and the Knicks are still winning. It can be Linsanity all over again in the NBA and on message boards.
4-3 would have me concerned regardless of where and how the Knicks lose.
Because that means either we didnt hold serve on the home court or we lost on the road to some bums. If these are not injury driven loses or force feed Stat loses.
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But part of the program is available in Victoria.
Pat Timmons is the rural financial counsellor at Mildura.
He has just returned from a meeting in Canberra where it was clarified that any farmers can apply for the Newstart and household support allowances if they can prove hardship.
Mr Timmons says "the means testing has been eased so now farms worth up to $2.5 million can be considered. Theoretically a farmer in any part of the State can apply".
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