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>Denny Diehl here
>with a question on MONOGENHS. In John 3:16 Jesus is
>described as "TON hUION TON MONOGENH". We have
>association with some who contend that should be
>translated: ONLY BEGOTTEN SON; and that it is wrong
>to translate it: ONE AND ONLY SON (NIV).
>?1) What is the derivation of MONOGENHS? And does
>that derivation help in understanding and translating this
>Greek term?
(a) It is also found in Jn 1:18, MONOGENHS QEOS (of Christ) with a
variant reading hO MONOGENHS QEOS and in Jn 1:14 in the genitive hWS
(b) Unless one endeavors to assign to the word in the text of John's
gospel a sense DIFFERENT from that which the word has elsewhere in
extant Greek literature, then "one and only" or "unique" would appear
to be the only appropriate sense of the word MONOGENHS in the passage.
LSJ (the latest edition, 1996) derives it from GENOS and says:
"generally <italic>the only member of a kin </italic>or<italic>
kind</italic>; hence, generally <italic>only, single, </italic>PAIS (in
Hesiod, Herodotus; cf. John 1:14, etc.); (2) <italic>unique</italic>
(Parmenides of TO ON, Plato of hEIS hODE MONOGENHS OURANOS GEGNONWS,
etc." There are a couple other senses cited that have no bearing on our
text. The sense "only-begotten" would appear to be derived from the
verb GENNAW or the older verb GIGNW; to be sure, these verbs derive
from the same root ultimately, GEN/GON/GN, but as I said at the outset,
to understand the word that way seems to fly in the face of other
evidence for the adjective's usage, and the sense "only," "unique" is
certainly applicable and intelligible here.
>?2) What are the theological implications in translating
>it ONE AND ONLY SON as opposed to ONLY BEGOTTEN SON?
I think one would have to go to a hair-splitting Patristic scholar for
an answer to this question, and I rather suspect that two or more of
them would split the hair in different ways. The Nicene Creed makes a
distinction between Christ as GENNHQENTA and as POIHQENTA (for
precision's sake, let me cite the whole thing from the liturgy of St.
John Chrysostom: "EIS hENA KURION IHSOUN CRISTON, TON hUION TOU QEOU,
POIHQENTA,hOMOIOUSION TWi PATRI, DI' hOU TA PANTA EGENETO"). This is
certainly the point at which the interpretation of MONOGENHS as "only
begotten" enters definitively into theological tradition--but however
one weighs the authority of the creeds over against the authority of
the NT text, it would seem that there's a great distance between the
sense of MONOGENHS in the text of John's gospel and the interpretation
of MONOGENHS in the Nicene Creed.
I will add, against my better judgment, that the evangelist, who
certainly held a high Christology and unquestionably equated Jesus
Christ with God (whether or not he held a trinitarian doctrine as
such), probably intended by the use of this adjective to underscore the
distinction between the humanity of Jesus as God's son and the humanity
of all other human beings who are children of God in some secondary and
derivative sense (cf. John 1:12-13). And for what it's worth, I'll add
that trinitarian doctrine is complicated enough without making it
depend upon a questionable understanding of the Greek adjective
MONOGENHS as meaning "only-begotten."
>?3) In my Hatch and Redpath under MONOGENHS,
>Baruch 4:16 is listed as an occurrence of MONOGENHS,
>yet in my Septuagint that verse only has MONHN. Does
>anyone have MONOGENHS in that verse? (My copy of
>the Septuagint is Hendrickson, 1995 which came from
>Bagster & Sons, 1851).
Rahlfs has MONHN in Baruch 4:16; however, it indicates MONOGENHN (a
strange feminine accusative where the ordinary ending ought to be the
2-termination form MONOGENH) as a reading in mss. A and V. Even if a
form of MONOGENHS should be read in this text, however, it's sense
would have to be identical with that of MONHN--an only daughter.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO, USA 63130
(314) 935-4018
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Ok here we go!!! First post!! Ok so while here, I stumbled along a few other threads and I have now found the courage to write one of my own yay! So, before I get to the subject of the post I would like to apologize for any future misspellings, punctuation errors or individual mistakes that may infuriate anyone.
(Again I am apologizing now because I am young, I don't know when to restrain myself when responding and somehow, grammar always escaped my attention in class.) :)
So, let's talk life, death and meaning for existence!
I basically want to know what many of you think when it comes to the purpose for our existence and how you find solace in the fact there is no life after death.
(Just a presumption since we are all obviously atheists)
How do you all cope with the reality of death and well….. your own existence? Have you ever felt anxiety after thinking about death? Has wondering about your meaning for existence ever worried you and have you ever tried to explain how you've come into existence [Big bang, spontaneous existence, billion of years of evolution?] Which one works best for you?
Also some thing interesting to ask > Does your perceptions affect your every day routines, emotions and attitudes towards others? Does it bring more meaning to things you do?
Now I am pretty sure this has already come up somewhere and this thread is a mixture of previously stated questions and I apologize for that and the fact that it's a lot of questions. Since this is my first thread, I just thought of asking what I have always wanted to ask to the "normal" population around me. Unfortunately for me, every time I ask someone in my town they basically look at me like some freakish madman! I suppose it may be the heavy influence that religion has on my community or the fact that I live in a small town that impedes progress, curiosity and wonder?
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I can only say that I no longer fear death for the same reason you do. I dont really see my own self worth and therefor have no reason to panic if I do in fact die. Now, there was a time when I did fear my own mortality, because as a child I was often scared into believing in hell - so you could say that I at one point believed in divine punishment......just not divinity itself. (I was a confused little child, that being said I could not reason)
So the occasional feeling of guilt and remorse simply remind me of death's presence; I now have no fear of my own death but of the death of others.
I do in moments of weakness believe that all things have meaning.......and then I remember Uganda and pretty much every other simple act of violence through out history. So I am constantly looking for a reason to exist. I've tried many things from simply improving my family's life through kind gestures and sympathy, to applying for medical school and hoping to later improve many other lives.
One of the reasons I asked if these perspectives changed your attitude, is because they greatly affect mine and sometimes I lose motivation to do just about anything. I think that because we evolved we have the capacity to continue evolving but I doubt I can really do anything to improve that.... but that's a different story
Welcome! This is a very interesting subject to discuss. Without a belief in life after death I think it helps me appreciate the life I have with my kids and my family...my parents are getting older...in their '70's, so I've been dwelling more on their eventual deaths than my own lately. I just hate to see them getting frail and dependent because they've been so active and independent, traveling for example. Now I worry about my dad's driving and the possibility that he's going to get Alzheimer's because his father died as a result of that dreadful disease.
I am grateful for medical breakthroughs and scientific discoveries...I think that 'progress, curiosity, and wonder' will always outshine the backward teachings of religious dogma. Being curious will be enough to get you to old age, if you ask me. Always feel like you can learn more by keeping up on current events and reading the subjects that interest you the most. I hope you won't be discouraged and cynical and pessimistic like so many people are becoming.
I like to think of death as the final chapter of my life but that my life will have been filled with many interesting chapters beforehand....some painful, some joyful. Like other people have mentioned, I fear pain and suffering more than death. I also hate the idea of being dependent on somebody else...it's a pride thing. And I also don't like the idea of people 'praying for me' on my deathbed and me being unable to say...HEY, KNOCK IT OFF, I'M AN ATHEIST! My kids will know the kind of funeral I want and a religious ceremony WON'T be a part of my 'send off'.
I am impatient with people that have easy answers about death and 'leaving it in god's hands' and 'let go, let god' and that sort of mumbo jumbo. I try not to roll my eyes on the OUTSIDE because people mean well and I have to constantly remind myself that my way of thinking is in the minority and most people in the U.S. have a belief in the afterlife. Just think of all the people that believe in the literal interpretation of the bible and you're bound to get a bit discouraged...but remember, freethinkers are around and you can discuss this sort of thing with them anytime when you want to vent. A lot of us feel like outsiders in our communities, so we can certainly relate!
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Illinois Begins Work on Medical Marijuana Rules
Illinois officials have begun setting up a system to let people buy medical marijuana in the state.
The Springfield bureau of Lee Enterprises newspapers reports officials from at least four state agencies are meeting to draft rules that will govern medical marijuana distribution.
They hope to present a final version of the rules to lawmakers in the spring.
In August, Illinois became the 20th state to legalize medical marijuana. The law sets up a four-year pilot program for state-regulated dispensaries and 22 so-called cultivation centers, where the plants will be grown.
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