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October 14, 2008
Canon PIXMA scanners now network ready on Linux !
Door is opened to scanning over a network on Linux, with (presumably) all PIXMA multifunction scanners offering a network connexion.
On Linux, older PIXMA models offering network connexion were only able to print, under the JetDirect protocol, using the well known port 9100.
Scanning over the network without a Windows or Mac box was unfortunately not possible, because involving a Canon proprietary protocol, named BJNP, coming with absolutely no information or documentation, and thus very difficult to approach.
Recent PIXMA models offering network connexion have been "enhanced" by Canon, in the way they now accept ... only the BJNP protocol for printing and scanning!
Bye bye JetDirect, welcome to Canon's world!
The situation then for Linux users? print and scan only with USB, forget about network ...
Until ...
Until Louis Lagendijk, a Linux user like many of us, acquired his new PIXMA MP970, and started to work on demystifying this BJNP Canon protocol, for his own needs, to have his printer work over the network.
Louis first designed a Cups printing driver, that works with all network PIXMA printers running the BJNP protocol. This cups-bjnp driver is available here.
Recently, Louis has also worked on adding BJNP support to the Sane pixma backend ...
The result now: you can scan over a LAN network on Linux with Xsane, and your PIXMA network scanner !
Great job.
With the arrival of Canon's new PIXMA 2008 series, models like MP620, MP980, ... which propose network and Wifi, are very likely (but feedback needed!) to be used on Linux with Sane, Cups, for printing and scanning over network ...
Good news again for Linux Canon users!
97 comments:
can I use these drivers for my mx300 mfp ?
- October 29, 2008
- Bob said...
I've built and installed the cups-bjnp driver (CUPS 1.3.9, Ubuntu 32-bit x86 8.10). bjnp correctly recognizes my mp620. Is there a ppd file (or a CUPS model/driver selection) that works for the mp620? The mp610 selection triggers a couple of errors and does not produce output.
- November 01, 2008
I have the same problem than bob (no output using CUPS 1.3.2+cups-bjnp 0.3, Ubuntu 64 bits 7.10)
Something is sent (verified on the printer's screen) but it's not printed.
So I would like to find a ppd file for the mp620 as well.
- November 01, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
Ok guys, are you trying to use Canon's driver (as described in this blog), and associated or modified PPD ?
This cannot work with bjnp, as Canon's driver uses its own USB backend to access _only_ the USB port. It cannot be used in conjunction with a network backend, like bjnp backend.
The only way I see to have MP620 work with bjnp network, is to use a Gutenprint driver, like MP610's one, or maybe, another one for this PIXMA.
- November 04, 2008
I'm trying to get it working with a modified mp620 ppd file from here:
(inside the dmg file)
For now, i have tried with these two filers:
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 textonly"
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-command 0 commandtocanon"
This prints the cups page test in text mode but in color :o)
PS: i'm the same anonymous at November 01, 2008
- November 05, 2008
Well, in fact, it doesn't print the cups test page but the printer self-test page :(
It's the same text on both buttons in french oO...
- November 05, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
Did you give a try with Gutenprint's MP610 driver ?
- November 05, 2008
- Bob said...
The errors that I referred to showed up using bjnp with the gutenprint mp610 driver. See http://messingabout.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/canon-mp620/ for the message text.
When I get a chance, I plan to try the gutenprint mp610 driver via USB.
- November 06, 2008
- Bob said...
I tried it this morning with the Gutenprint mp610 CUPS+Gutenprint driver and a USB connection, with the same results as before:
E [06/Nov/2008:07:52:47 -0500] [Job 40] No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!
E [06/Nov/2008:07:52:47 -0500] [Job 40] No %%Pages: comment in header!
- November 06, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
Actually, this means a driver issue (MP610 driver not compatible with MP620), not a bjnp backend issue.
You need now to try with other Pixma drivers proposed in Gutenprint: MP150, MP160, MP170, MP520, ... and also, printer drivers : IP4100, IP4200, IP4300, ...
Maybe one of those will do the trick.
- November 06, 2008
- Bob said...
I've now tried IP4100, IP4300, IP4500, i850, MP160, C2500, MP520, MP600 and MP610. In no case do I get any output at all when attempting to print the test page. On several, I also tried piping the output of 'ls' through 'lp' and also received no output. Some drivers (including MP610) will cause the printer to wake up, warm up and open its output tray. Others seem to do nothing at all.
Wondering whether my CUPS or Gutenprint installations might be bad, I configured a CUPS/Gutenprint PCL6 driver for my laser printer (which I normally use via proprietary drivers). The test page printed fine. However, I got the same errors in the log file from that one that I get from the MP620 attempts, so I think that those errors are probably endemic to all CUPS/Gutenprint drivers on my system.
Perhaps when I get a little time on my hands, I can capture the conversation of the Windows drivers.
- November 07, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
You should post about that in the Gimp-print mailing list.
Looks like situation is the same with the new Canon iP4600 printer, and someone has started looking at this.
- November 09, 2008
- Maxime said...
I bought the MP620 yesterday and I success in printing yesterday far in the night !
Under Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 and with USB link.
1. Download the two file from canon asia website :
2. Install them :
sudo dpkg -i cnijfilter-common-2.80-1.i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i cnijfilter-mp610series-2.80-1.i386.deb
3. Download the ppdMP610fr-1.3.tar.gz file found at http://mp610.blogspot.com
I followed the README file in the instructions to copy the files to the appropriate places.
4. Edit the cifmp610.conf file and add an entry in the "model" section for MP620 with a model ID of 1399
5. Restart CUPS
sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
6. Turn on the printer and Plug the USB cable, and the printer is Successfully detected and I can print.
7. No, that stops to step 6. I'm upgrading to intrepid in order to make the cups-bjnp "driver" to talk to the printer trought the network.
Following to the next episode...
Thanks to James to have opened the door !
- November 14, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
Something is a bit strange about that !
At step 4, do you have reinstalled the printer and selected the Canon driver, using the cups web interface, or the Ubuntu Gnome printer interface ?
Before going to intrepid (the cups-bjnp driver works on Hardy), could you double check which driver the printer settings is currently showing, check whether this is the Canon one, or the Gutenprint one.
Great chance that the Canon driver won't work with cups-bjnp, as this driver is usb only. But Gutenprint MP610 one should be right. So I suggest you to test that before upgrading, just to be sure which printer setting is active.
Also, could you post the current result of:
$ lpstat -t
- November 14, 2008
- Maxime said...
Nicolas, I'v seen your message today, and I upgraded two days ago...
Sorry !
I do it with Gnome Printer Interface (that talks to Cups server so it is the same)
I'm quite sure that she (my printer is a lady !) uses the canon driver, because I didn't try any Gutenprint one (volontairement), and unless I installed the canon one, the printer didn't work with your ppd.
But in your ppd, there is : *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 pstocanonij"
So I think it is the Canon driver...
I build the cups-bjnp "talker" and I success in printing by ethernet. (See my today email, sent before I see your post)
15:54 maxime@maxime-laptop ~% lpstat -t
l'ordonnanceur tourne
destination par défaut du système : MP620-Ethernet
périphérique pour MP620-Ethernet : bjnp://192.168.0.250:8611
périphérique pour MP620-USB : usb://Canon/MP620%20series
MP620-Ethernet accepte les requêtes depuis le ven 14 nov 2008 20:49:23 CET
MP620-USB accepte les requêtes depuis le dim 16 nov 2008 15:30:56 CET
l'imprimante MP620-Ethernet ne fait rien ; elle est activée depuis le ven 14 nov 2008 20:49:23 CET
l'imprimante MP620-USB est désactivée depuis le dim 16 nov 2008 15:30:56 CET -
raison inconnue
- November 16, 2008
- Louis Lagendijk said...
I am the author of the cups-bjnp backend as well as the bjnp support in Sane. I would appreciate any feedback people can give on the combination of their Canon mutilfunctionals with either bjnp implementation.
- November 20, 2008
Hi - I cant get this to work with my brand new MP610.
I got it on sale :-)
But ubuntu 8.10 wont recognise it at all.
- November 21, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
Ubuntu 8.10 comes with the latest published Sane package, 1.0.19, but the pixma backend that it includes, and which drives pixma devices, is now out of date (Oct 2007).
You need to install, as exposed in this blog, the latest Sane CVS version. This version includes a pixma backend that can drive your MP610 up to 4800 dpi, this is better than Canon's Windows driver.
- November 21, 2008
- Rick Klaw said...
I'm trying to get the Pixma mp620 to work on a 64 bit Ubunutu 8.10 desktop. The mp610 drives don't work. CUPS thinks it's printing and the printer window displays "Printing from computer.." but nothing happens. The printer window returns to its previous state and cups thinks it printed.
Sane won't find the scanner.
Printer self test and the copier work just fine.
The printer is connected via USB.
I installed the bjnp driver with no effect. Any further suggestions?
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
- November 24, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
MP620 has been reported to work fine with Canon's MP610 driver, either on USB, or on network after installing the cups-bjnp driver. There are 2 tutorials about that, but sorry, in French:
For the scanner part, you need to install Sane CVS, as Sane version coming with your Linux distribution will not work out of the box for MP620.
- November 25, 2008
- Technical Tony said...
I was able to get my new Canon MP620 to print on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 via USB. But the key wasn't anything to do with the drivers.
The key was that the default paper-tray selection doesn't work! After exhausting all other options I started experimenting and found that I had to specify the bottom 'cassette' tray in order for it to print. Otherwise, it would do the same as others reported -- say that it was receiving a "PC printout" and then just disappearing, no printout, as if nothing had ever happened.
- November 27, 2008
- Proposed by Nicolos said...
Did you succeed also in having MP620 scanner work with Sane CVS ?
Did you try also to use a network connexion to print or scan from the network with your MP620 ?
- November 27, 2008
En suivant pas à pas les différentes instructions sur ce blog et sur http://www.futura-sciences.com/newsrss-canon-pixma-mp620-reseau-ubuntu_808546_0.php, j'ai pu faire fonctionner l'imprimante en USB puis en Wifi (la semaine dernière); le scanner refusait de marcher (I/O error en USB, Erreur de segmentation en Wifi) jusqu'à ce matin. Je suppose qu'une nouvelle version en CVS a été mise à disposition, le scanner fonctionne en USB depuis ce matin.
Un grand MERCI aux différentes personnes qui nous permettent d'utiliser de bons outils que leurs constructeurs oublient de rendre disponibles sous Linux.
- November 30, 2008
It is a good news !!! I'll will try to install these drivers on my ubuntu 8.10 with my Canon Pixma MP600R this week-end. I'll give you some feedback of course ;)
- December 03, 2008
Je suis l'anonyme du 30 novembre. J'ai oublié de préciser que j'utilisais une MP620 sous Ubuntu Hardy -j'ai utilisé Vista pour obtenir les paramètres WiFi sur une clé USB, puis je les ai fait avaler par ma MP620 grâce au paramétrage WCN-. Je souhaitais donc répondre à la question de Nicolos au sujet de la 620 : elle marche chez moi en impression en Wifi et USB, mais seulement en USB en numérisation.
Si quelqu'un est intéressé, je peux essayer de lui envoyer les fichiers à recopier sur une clef. Tous ne sont probablement pas utiles, mais je n'ai pas fait le tri...
- December 03, 2008
- Nicolas says: said...
Bonjour Goffdely,
Quel est le symptome en numérisation Wifi ?
Pouvez vous enregistrer une session avec Wireshark et me l'envoyer par mail ?
- December 03, 2008
I have a Debian Lenny system with sane-utiles_1.0.19-21 installed. Was network scanning added after this release, or should this work with the Debian package?
- December 04, 2008
- Nicolas says: said...
Sane 1.0.19 is the last official released package, but carries a pixma backend now completely outdated.
You must get and install the latest Sane CVS, as explained in this blog (see: Give your scanner a new fresh Sane installation), to have the network running.
- December 04, 2008
- V said...
i have also Mp620. Unfortunally, i could´nt make my Printer working under Gutenprint, but the most actually version of Turboprint supports also new Canon Printers-i mean it works great (wifi e.c whitout any installation-just out of the box). But turboprint is to be payed some 30-40$. So, i hope that in the future will foomatic and gutenprint bring these new drivers. I have Acer Aspire one with Linpus on it.
So, if anyone knows free drivers for MP620, let us know...
- December 04, 2008
- Nicolas says: said...
If you read a few messages before yours, you will see that MP620 can work with Canon's free drivers for MP610, and cups-bjnp, on Wifi too. Someone has written a small tuto about that.
I don't know about Turboprint's drivers, but I invite you to test also the free solution with Canon's driver, cups-bjnp and Cups. Don't know yet if Gutenprint's driver for MP610 will work too, but worth a try.
- December 04, 2008
- V said...
Hi, thanks for advice-i tried with gutenprint-but nothing. All these other stuff i don´t know how to use because i am newbie to linux. Well, there is trialversion of turboprint drivers (30 days), so i hope that open source community will also bring us these drivers.
And i tried some drivers for MP610 and other Printers, but still nothing (i have Linpus-derivation of Fedora).
- December 04, 2008
I just succeded to print on my MP620 with the driver for MP610, but first after having changed the paper source to casette.
I am running Ubuntu 8.10.
The MP620 is network connected and used in a mixed environment of LINUX and Windows clients.
- December 05, 2008
- V said...
Hi Anonymus-does your WiFI connection on MP620 works or not? Where exactly did you change that source...i am newbie to linux-and with which drivers-gutenprint?
- December 05, 2008
For V.
Mine is working over WiFi, on the URI _bjnp://192.168.1.22:8611_ (the fixed address of the MP620) and with the driver MP610 Ver.2.80fr described somewhere on this blog. On Ubuntu, printer's administration gives then access to an _option_ tab (or in your navigator, cups administration _/localhost:631_ ->printer administration -> options of your printer, general) on witch you can change the paper source...
It's working, Great thanks to the developers.
Nicolos said me that scanning over Wifi will soon work too :-).
- December 06, 2008
- V said...
Thanks Goffedly-well i am newbie to Linux (have Linpus/based ond Fedora) and have problem with this printing. I don´t even know if i found MP610 driver (how to install it if my Updater doesn´download it...?)
Sometimes it does start as it would prints something (also here described)-but than nothing.
Maybe if someone can give me a link to these drivers for MP610-if it functions that way that i dowwnload it and install it by doubleclick...
- December 06, 2008
- V said...
I have one more question (i found download sites)-do i need for fedora/linpus deb package or .rpm? As said-newbie...
- December 06, 2008
For V
Looking on the net with Google, you can see that Fedora uses rpm packages...
And you have a good and short "how to..." here :
http://www.futura-sciences.com/newsrss-canon-pixma-mp620-ubuntu_807937_0.php (but in french - and some changes to do to use with Linpus) and here : http://mp610.blogspot.com/2007/11/setup-canon-pixma-mp600-or-mp610.html, very near of where you are now ;-) and very complete...
En cherchant un peu avec Google, on voit que Fedora utilise rpm...
- December 06, 2008
- V said...
Thanks Goffdely, but i think i have some problem-when i try to install those drivers come messages "error resolving dependencies...missing dependency: cnijfilter-common = 2.60 is needed by package..."
I am too newbie for this...
- December 06, 2008
For V.
Following the link above :
http://mp610.blogspot.com/2007/11/setup-canon-pixma-mp600-or-mp610.html , Nicolos explains the order to be followed for MP610, that's working with MP620 :
Try to follow that post scrupulously (may be you find useful information from Maxime in this page above, too, but it's for Debian and alii).
You can do it !
- December 06, 2008
- V said...
Thanks again,
i followed exactly that link-but nothing. Maybe is problem in my distribution (Linpus/Fedora), i dont know...
- December 06, 2008
Great thanks to Nicolos for his good work ! The scanner of the MP620 is now perfectly working over WiFi too... (up to 2400 bpi.). When the machine is away from your computer, the use of the button of the scanner (with the good option ticked) fits correctly. A small regret, i didn't find how to use it (the scan button) in sequence, without going back to the PC and press again scan.
Congratulation for all the work done on this blog and in the backoffice !
- December 06, 2008
- Nicolas says: said...
Thanks Goffdely for your kind feedback and info on MP620, most of the congrats today goes to Louis Lagendijk, who fixed this issue promptly.
To scan several pages with the button, simply enter in Xsane main window, the number of pages you want to scan, in the "Number of pages to scan" field. Then, each scan will be trigged by the scanner button, the different pages will then appear in Xsane.
You can also use scanimage in batch mode (scanimage -b) and use the button option (--button-controlled=yes)
- December 06, 2008
- V said...
lowed instructions of Maxime and Nicolas-and i installed Driver 2.80 for MP610, but my printer (MP620) is not detected. Does anyone knows what to do? I wrote some posts on other blogs, so i apologize if repeat myself.
I am little frustrated, because yesterday my Printer was recognized, but it didn´t work. And today is not even detected. I am newbie to linux so every help is useful (Linpus user with Acer Aspire One)
- December 08, 2008
- V said...
Goffdely, can i ask which packages do you use: .rpm or .deb. I said many times (maybe also here, i don´t know any more) i installed 2.80 drivers, but have problems with detecting of Printer. What did you do after Installing drivers? I made cups restart (before i coppied files where are they to be after readme file from Nicolos...), but my printer is not detected. I have MP620 and Linux Linpus.
- December 08, 2008
- V said...
Finally: i succeeded to print , but...
I realized that my Printer is recognized only when i have installed commercial turboprint-so i installed it one more time. Now, my printer was detected, but i took canon mp610 .ppd file that i found here-and it works perfectly!
I would like to know why i can use yours drivers after installing (but not using) turboprint?
Anyway thanks all-i hope this will be permanent solution for me.
And yes-wifi works perfectly!
P.S. Sorry for repeating this post (i put it also on some other blogs)
- December 08, 2008
While printing, do you have a pink tone on the grey ?
Some reported to have this problem too...
It's annoying and I don't know what to do to avoid this.
- December 08, 2008
- V said...
Hi anonymus-well now when you mentioned it i made one Printer Test Page and there is Pink tone on Grey Ramp. To me it is but not relevant because i need this computer only for text printing in b&w, and i didn´t notice any problem there.
Hope you´ll find solution to your problem.
- December 08, 2008
- V said...
About this pink-i am not sure if this what i am telling now useful but... i think that in older canon printers was the order of catridges a little bit different as it is in mp620.
So in this file /cifmp600.conf/ are some lines that are suggesting cartridges order:
color 0
bk 1
photo 2
bkcolor 3
bkphoto 4
photocolor 5
Maybe is there something to change. This is merely a thinking-maybe am i totally wrong...
- December 08, 2008
- Technical Tony said...
SUCCESS! Here is my simplified install process for Ubuntu 8.10 and the Canon MP620.
1. download the two updated DEBs and one PPD (see below for locations),
- cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
- cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb
- canonmp610en.ppd
2. install 'libcupsys2' through Synaptic (needed for Canon DEBs)
3. install the Canon drivers,
> sudo dpkg -i cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
> sudo dpkg -i cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb
4. install the printer using the newer PPD, canonmp610en.ppd
5. In the printer Properties > Print Options, set Paper Feed = Cassette
- I got the DEBs from the Canon Asia web-site,
. http://support-asia.canon-asia.com
- I selected Multifunction > Pixma > MP610 > Drivers
- I downloaded these 2 packages,
. "Common (Debian)"
. "IJ Printer Driver (Debian)"
- The PPD came from this same blog's SF project,
. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=210977
- I downloaded 'ppdMP610en-1.3.tar.gz' (English) and unpacked it
- December 12, 2008
- Technical Tony said...
Sorry, I keep forgetting -- I'm only concerned about the print function, so far. I have another scanner so I'm not trying to make the Canon's scanner work (yet).
- December 12, 2008
- Trond said...
I have succesfully made xsane work with my new Canon MP980.
But I'm not able to make it print :-(
When I try to setup a new printer I can't figure out how to specify the new network printer.
Somebody that can help?
- December 18, 2008
MR.Beast say:-
On Ubuntu Intrepid, V8.10 I have installed the 2 deb files as per instructions for my Pixma MP620, and basic printing functions no problems. Thanks for the great guide guys! Next stop BJNP over wired LAN and more thorough testing of this driver over both USB and network for printing and scanning.
- December 18, 2008
- Trond said...
I have installed
- cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
- cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb
- canonmp610en.ppd
as explained by Tecnical Tony
for my networked MP980.
When I print something the printer console start saying that it is printing, but nothing is ever printed.
No error reports, just no printing happens :-(
- December 19, 2008
- Nicolas said...
Unfortunately, MP980 printer seems to be currently unsupported by all existing linux drivers, even by Turboprint.
Guess this should change in the future, but no solution comes to me at the moment.
You could try to post in the gimp-print mailing list to ask for help.
- December 19, 2008
- Trond said...
Strange situation: I have full scanning support with xsane, but i can't print :-)
- December 19, 2008
Hi All
I plan to buy an all-in-one printer.
I'm choosing Canon MP540 : did someone make it worked with CUPS and SANE running Linux 64 or 32 bits ?
Btw, one vendor said "MP540 is equal to MP620 without wifi !"
However in SANE Project database, although MP620's status is tagged as good, MP540 is marked as untested due to "a protocol as Pixma Generation 3" (see http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html#Z-CANON)
I'm confused and don't know if I should go for Canon !
- December 20, 2008
- Nicolas said...
Currently, there's not yet any feedback about MP540, either for printing or scanning.
This generation of Pixma seems to have a scanner protocol very close to previous MPs, so it's very likely that the scanner will work out of the box (like MP620 or MP630, and now MP980 too) or with very little tweakings. Printing is more uncertain at the moment, may work (like MP620 or MP630) with a driver like MP520, or may not yet work (like MP980).
- December 20, 2008
- Trond said...
Anybody now if MP600 is useable for printing? Black-and-white works with MP610 but colors is a mess :-(
- December 20, 2008
Thanks Nicolas for your answers.
If I go to Canon, my choice will be the most sur one. ie MP620, but still risks such as color (pink issue), button management, full res scan support.
Guys, could we list what still not 100% complete with MP620 tweaks ?
- December 20, 2008
Technical Tony November 27, 2008
thank you! about using which paper tray; mp620; cups-bjnp-0.4;
slackware 12.0; cups 1.3.9; printed test page, no errors in log, everything seemed ok, selected 'automatic paper source switching'; prints now; prints dot matrix fonts but prints(working on it); trying to get to sane, thanks everyone too!
- January 01, 2009
I followed instructions by Maxime November 14, 2008 exactly AND set paper feed to "Cassette" to get brand new MP620 to print over WiFi with CUPS. If paper feed is set to "paper feed switch" or anything automatic it won't print. Thanks. Now on to trying out scanning!
Ubuntu 8.10
Canon PIXMA MP620
- January 03, 2009
- Nicolas said...
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- January 05, 2009
- Nicolas said...
For MP620 users:
If you want to get rid of the automatic switch option, you just need to do a small change in the canonmp610en.ppd (or canonmp610fr.ppd) file.
- Locate this line in the file:
*DefaultInputSlot: switch
- And change it to:
*DefaultInputSlot: cassette
Can also remove the line:
*InputSlot switch/Paper Feed Switch: "<...
if you don't want it to appear in the selection list.
Then, reinstall the printer or copy over (or change directly) the existing ppd file for your MP620 in /etc/cups/ppd
Would be worth a new ppd set of files release for MP620 ...?
- January 05, 2009
- Mauss said...
Has anyone found 64bit version of the filters from Canon? I think that's the problem I'm running into at this point. Is there a way to get the 32bit filter to run on a 64bit system?
- January 14, 2009
I have an MP530. The scanning works great! Is there anything I can do to help to get a driver that can print higher quality than 600x600?
- January 15, 2009
I just got 64Bit printing just figured out, on Ubuntu 8.10 anyhow, how to get the drivers installed (wireless and usb printing tested). No luck with scanning etc yet....
I just got the latest (modified jan09) MP620 compatible ppd from sourceforge, and followed instructions...
* dpkg --force-architecture -i cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
* dpkg --force-architecture -i cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb
* dpkg --force-architecture -i scangearmp-common_1.10-1_i386.deb
* dpkg --force-architecture -i scangearmp-mp610series_1.10-1_i386.deb
There may be dependencies and compatibility libs needed that I already have, 'apt-get install' is your friend...
- January 18, 2009
- V said...
Hi, i am the V. who had Linux Linpus and Canon MP620. Now i have Ubuntu 8.04 an can not install file:
It says:
error: dependency is not satisfiable: cnijfilter-common
Does anyone knows what it should be? I installed turboprint drivers-wanted to make the same trick i made with my Linpus, but it doesn´t go.
i printed after all a dokument with gutenprint driver for mp610, but the letters are streched and the print quality is very bad. Does anyone knows how to solve this problem?
and when i try to open that file in terminal:
root@sugar:/home/sugar/Dokumente/Downloads# dpkg -i cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb (--install):
Paket-Architektur (i386) passt nicht zum System (lpia)
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
- January 21, 2009
- V said...
I updated gutenprint. And when i choose the newest file for mp620 or 610 (5.2.2.) -nothing. But when i choose older version (5.0.2) of mp610 it is printing-but with all the problems mentioned before.
- January 21, 2009
- V said...
I tried also with localhost to setup the printer-everything went ok, but no printing is coming out.
- January 21, 2009
Hi everybody
I'm also running under ubuntu 8.10, 64 bits version and have a Canon MP 620 that doesn't work.
I tried to follow the instructions related here (thx Nicolas) but the drivers are made for i386 and doesn't work with 64 bits...
Please, help the newbie I am....
- January 27, 2009
Follow the --force-architecture method above.
- February 08, 2009
- betsubetsu said...
I just received my mp620 and succeeded to print over ethernet after configuring a cups server using the ppd file available on this blog and using the cups-bjnp backend.
But I couldn't manage to scan over ethernet yet.
# ./bjnp
network bjnp "Unknown" "Canon network printer"
anybody has an idea?
- February 26, 2009
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- February 28, 2009
I've successfully configured the network printing part of the MP620 by following the instrucions listened in the page http://www.michael-krueger.org/2009/01/how-to-use-canon-pixma-mp620-with.html
But be sure not to overlook the first part (just before plugging in the usb chord)
- March 12, 2009
- René Steetskamp said...
Thanks for all your efforts. It's by far the best source for PIXMA on Linux.
Unfortunately my MP620 is still not working on my Ubuntu 8.10 box.
Here's what I've got after following the instructions on this blog:
- After plugging in the printer's USB cable, Ubuntu correctly recognizes it.
- Running bnjp shows that Ubuntu can also see the printer over WiFi
So I apparently have both printer configurations ready to go in CUPS. The status applet tells me the printer is "idle".
But when I try to print the test page (or any other page, Postscript, OpenOffice or otherwise), I get "/usr/lib/cups/filter/cpdftocps failed". When I print over USB I also get the response "printer 'mp620-series' may not be connected". When I try cpdftocps with a PDF file (like "cpdftocps file.pdf") from the command line, nothing happens (it doesn't even return).
The same happens with versions 2.8 and 3.0 of the Canon drivers.
So it seems to me that the connections to the printer may be fine, but something goes wrong with the cpdftocps filter.
This has been driving me nuts for months. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
- March 20, 2009
- vic said...
René Steetskamp, try this-this helped me:
Install try version of turboprint drivers (turboprint.de). You don´t have to use their drivers or programm-remove from desktop their shortcuts, and just leave that programs and forget them (but do not uninstall them). I think that problem is "bnjp"drivers/files. After that, add new printer (using instructions read here-and read file "readme"-you have to put .ppd files on their places).
You don´t even have to connect your printer with usb cabe or to go to/localhost:631-wi fi should be enabled automatically.
- March 20, 2009
Just a note for everyone who is experiencing the same problems I've had:
When you installed the new sane-backends but executing the command scanimage -L does not reveal your Scanner you should make sure that your firewall allows connections to port 8611 (I finally found the tip on line 75 of the README file of the cups-bjnp package: http://cups-bjnp.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/cups-bjnp/trunk/README?revision=36&view=markup )
ps.: the MP970 is an excellent scanner - inSane!
- May 18, 2009
- Kevin said...
Hello all,
I am running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit and am having trouble getting my mp620 to actually print. The printer is connected through USB and detected just fine (automatically found and downloaded drivers too), but when I attempt to print a test page the queue shows it as complete but nothing actually prints.
I am new to linux so I probably made a rookie mistake, just looking for someone to point it out.
- June 03, 2009
- Nicolas said...
Installing Canon's 32 bits drivers on a 64 bits machine requires a little trick.
CUPS will look for the pstocanonij filter program in a 64 bits folder /usr/lib64/cups/filter.
You just need to add as root, a link as follows to link pstocanonij with lib32:
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij /usr/lib64/cups/filter
- June 06, 2009
- Jay McWilliams said...
OK, got printer to work in Ubuntu Intrepid AMD64 (8.10). Thanks to all the forums, I brought this together & got it to work;
First, you need to grab the needed files from LINUX section @ canon's website. (Just do a google search on each file)
cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb, cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb, scangearmp-common_1.10-1_i386.deb, scangearmp-mp610series_1.10-1_i386.deb.....
Then find & download this file: ppdMP620-630en-1.5
Use sudo nautilus goto /usr/lib , /usr/lib32 & /usr/lib64 & create folder bjlib & copy new PPD files there.
Following files from Canon support site for the MP610:
Use terminal:
* sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
* sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i cnijfilter-mp610series_2.80-1_i386.deb
* sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i scangearmp-common_1.10-1_i386.deb
* sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i scangearmp-mp610series_1.10-1_i386.deb
Now here's the important part, DELETE ANY previous canon printers. Then add new using USB (mine is USB#1). Next, DO NOT USE PIXMA MP610!!!! Use "Canon MP610 series Ver.2.80". Then go into the printer settings under options / paper feed choose something like cassette or rear tray. I have not used paper feed switch yet so pls let me know.
Sorry about leaving out the direct links but they keep changing them. This works on AMD64 & i386.
- June 15, 2009
- Kevin said...
When I connect my mp620 via USB Ubuntu automatically downloads drivers (CUPS+Gutenberg 2.5.3 I believe). Are these drivers sufficient or do I also need to download those listed by Jay?
- July 09, 2009
- Nicolas said...
Yes, the Gutenprint drivers are different from Canon ones.
Although they work fine, they are slower then Canon's one, limited to 600 dpi, and do not offer basically borderless printing.
But you can of course use them too, they offer the advantage to be open source software, compared to Canon's one, proprietary, with partial access to source code.
- July 09, 2009
Like Kevin's post I am running Ubuntu 9.04 (but not 64bit) and am having trouble getting my mp620 to actually print. The printer is connected through USB and detected just fine (automatically found and downloaded drivers too), but when I attempt to print a test page the queue shows it as complete but nothing actually prints.
I followed the advise as how to load everything, but I probably made a mistake, looking for someone to help point it out.
- July 15, 2009
- Kevin said...
Make sure you change the paper feed to "cassette". Hope that fixes your problem.
- July 20, 2009
- Pooja said...
Thanks a lot for the post. I am fond of Canon printers as they are of high quality. Canon Pixma MP980 printer can print, scan, copy, and e-mail.The Canon Pixma MP 980 printer is designed very well with a silver and glossy black body.The printer also does well on graphics. The text prints are of average quality. For more details refer canon pixma mp980
- July 29, 2009
I am still having problems installing this printer. When I enter your first line of code under COMMON: I get this:
kevin@kevin-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
So . . . I must have messed something up along the way. Could someone please point out where I've gone off track?
- August 04, 2009
I just bought an new MX 860 with LAN and Wifi network connection. Like you described in your latest blogpost I should be able to scan via network too.
You asked for comments, I will give them now to you: Working with the canon ist just great. No problems during installation. I just installed the canon drivers and the linked BJNP. And it works.
If some other needs help and finde someonne who translate it for him, he may use the german ubuntu wiki. It is a well written description.
For this or the next weekend I will try to install the new XSane on my Ubuntu.
Whish me luck. In thinks like this I am just a noob (sry for this horrible english).
- August 20, 2009
Has anybody tried to use MP640? Any luck?
I have not been able to print or scan from Jaunty 9.04, although the devices seem to be recognised.
I am frustrated to have to use Windows on VirtualBox just to use my brand new machine. I am willing to do any testing on my system, if someone can make suggestions.
Thanks to Nicolas for efforts so far.
- October 05, 2009
- Canon Pixma ip4300 Printer said...
This is a good printer but I do not believe Canon makes it any more. I especially like the dual paper trays, small size, and speed at which it prints both documents and photos. I did not give it five stars because some of the small pieces - paper cassette cover and paper holder end seem to be very cheaply made. It also works well with generic ink cartridges and I will not be held prisoner by printer companies who charge exorbitant prices for ink.
- December 23, 2009
J'utilise une MP640. L'impression marche en Wifi.
Avec sane-find-scanner j'ai "found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9, product=0x173f) at libusb:001:01"
Par contre scanimage -L donne "No scanners were identified.".
En wifi par contre sane-find-scanner ne détecte rien.
J'ai installé les drivers linux cannon et "scanimage (sane-backends) 1.0.20; backend version 1.0.2"
- March 21, 2010
- Mazur said...
I _have_ a Canon Pixma MP540, connected directly to a USB port on my Fedora 11/Gnome system, and I cannot for the life of me get it to print.
The printer is recognised, it seems, device /dev/usb/lp0 is created when I connect it. I can configure it, it gets recognised in gnome-config-printer, correctly, as a Canon MP540, but printjobs all go into a great big void.
I've found not a single reference on the web claiming the printer to work, and have no ideas how to make it work.
I've tried all different connections methods in gnome-config-printer, I think.
Stefan Linnemann
- March 26, 2010
- Nicolas said...
Don't know too much about Fedora, but I guess it has a Gnome printer settings window ?
Did you install the printer from there, and did you use a Cups or Canon driver to install it ?
- March 26, 2010
- chooochio said...
How can I scan transparencies from my Pixma MX310 or MP610 to my computer?
- May 10, 2010
- chooochio said...
can I scan transparencies from my Pixma MX310 or Pixma MP610?
Thanks CR
- May 10, 2010
- Henk said...
Installation MP620 on Ubuntu "LUCID"
After several tryings installing printer software I installed ubuntu LUCID again.
Na verschillende installatie mogelijkheden heb ik alles gedumpt. LUCID opnieuw geinstalleerd een paar updates uitgevoerd en de printer installatie gestart. Hier het resultaat:
After that I started the printer install procedure, result:
sudo dpkg -i cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb
[sudo] password for henk: ******
Selecteren van voorheen niet geselecteerd pakket cnijfilter-common.
(Database inlezen ... 146724 bestanden en mappen geïnstalleerd.)
Uitpakken van cnijfilter-common (uit cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: vereistenproblemen verhinderen de configuratie van cnijfilter-common: cnijfilter-common is afhankelijk van libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1); maar: Pakket `libcupsys2' is niet geïnstalleerd.
dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van cnijfilter-common (--install): vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureerd
Fouten gevonden tijdens behandelen van: cnijfilter-common
I can't find "libcupsys2" It was in 8.01.
Met beheer gezocht naar "libcupsys2", niet gevonden.
What now ? En nu ?
- May 13, 2010
- Shinji257 said...
The driver sees my mp980 but when I tried to use the mp970 ppd I get no output...
- March 20, 2011
- susja said...
Hello Folks,
I hit the wall and need your help.Please :) I bought Canon MX410 all-in-one. I was able to download and install printer and scanner driver from Canon european site. I am able to use printer now but I'm stuck with scanner which is very important for me. My scanner driver is 1.70. Installation of it was OK but when I try to scan document scanner fails to recognize PC. Any help would be appreciated ... or maybe you could direct me how to use SANE utility instead ... actually I tried xSane but it didn't found drivers for me. In other words I'm stuck and request help from someone.
Thanks in advance.
- February 13, 2012


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Why BASIC?
Making Great Programmers - Why BASIC is Still Relevant
Ian Larsen - drblast [at] sourceforge.net
When anyone asks if their children should learn BASIC, there is always a vocal group that says "NO! It teaches all the wrong things! Learn a modern language like (insert favorite language here)." But this is nonsense.
Just as spoken languages are tools we use to communicate ideas to other people, computer languages communicate ideas to a computer. What's really important is knowing what you want the computer to do, what idea to comunicate. The language you use to express that is largely irrelevant, as long as it works for your purposes. For the purposes of writing simple programs and games, BASIC works just fine, and has for years.
But as for the argument that learning BASIC will hinder further progress in learning about computers, why would that be true? It's not true for spoken languages. Nobody ever said, "I wish I never learned English, because I had to un-learn so many bad habits to learn Japanese." People who learn many spoken languages say it gets easier the more you learn, because you can relate them to each other and recognize patterns. It's the same for computer language, probably even more so, since computer languages are much more similar to each other than spoken languages are.
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The first the traditional approach, which teaches students how to program in the latest industry standard language. My college used this approach. Prior to when I enrolled, students learned C. I learned C++, and now they teach in Java. I struggled, like everyone else, with classes and pointers. I don't know what the current students struggle with, but I'm sure it's not pointers, because they don't exist in Java. I'm not sure when the current students learn pointers, or if they're expected to learn that later on their own, like we were expected to learn how linkers worked, what the compiler was actually doing when we hit the green button, etc. Maybe they never learn what pointers are.
This brings up a dilemna. Either pointers are obsolete, or they're being glossed over in the current computer science curricula. If they're obsolete, my college did a disservice to me by teaching me a faddish programming construct like pointers in CompSci 101. But if they're still valuable, then the current students are getting the short end of the stick by not learning them early.
The traditional approach will always have this drawback. The higher the level at which they teach, the more stuff they have to leave out, by necessity. Now, a good program will cover a range of topics, including how the hardware works. But if the range continues to grow, something's going to get left out.
The second approach is the MIT approach. MIT uses an excellent book which teaches the mathematical model of how computer languages and algorithms are structured. It's very theoretical and complete. Any student taking that course will gain a complete understanding of how computer programming works, and be able to implement the entire process from the source code to machine code generation. Interesting to note is that the computer language they use to teach it (scheme) has its roots in Lisp (which is over 40 years old) and will probably never change. This is an indication that what they're teaching is universally valuable. It's not just this year's industry concensus.
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There's a third method, and while no college uses it, I'm fairly certain that my generation would find it familiar. It's the bottom-up approach. In the bottom-up approach, you'd start with a machine that has a small subset of functionality. I had a Commodore 64, which had a BASIC on it that was just a step above assembly language. You would write your first program and run it:
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And then you'd add more. You use a GOTO statement to print that over and over. You'd see exactly how the computer jumped around in memory doing things in the order you specified.
What's the point? Well, one of the most necessary things when teaching Computer Science is to de-mystify the machinery. High level languages like Java or Python don't do this. What's needed is a language that's directly analagous to how computers actually work, like assembly language.
Once you learn assembly language, nothing else is ever too difficult. Is that because assembly language is so much harder than everything else? Well, not really. Compared to Java and its libraries, assembly language is tiny -- learning it all is simple. It's because when you understand assembly, you understand computers. You know that "functions" are nothing more than a jump with some stack manipulation to make it look like you're not using GOTO. You know that "objects" are nothing more than a collection of function pointers and data with compiler-enforced rules about how it all can be accessed.
So should children learn assembly language first? Certainly not. It's way too difficult to do fun things that a child would want to do, like write games, in assembly. They'd get bored and go do something else. Ninety percent of teaching children is keeping them interested long enough for them to absorb information. But if assembly language were easier and more fun, wouldn't it be an ideal language to teach children?
The truth is, the BASIC most of us grew up with was hopelessly low-level. At the same time, it was simple enough for a 7 year old child to understand. Why is that? Well, it's because computers are inherintly stupid, simple machines. There's no magic in there, despite what the Intel ads say. Making the transition from Commodore BASIC to Commodore assembly language was simple, because Commodore BASIC was so limited, just like assembly. They even had the same control constructs, like GOTO.
That's where BASIC comes in. It's as close to the computer hardware as you can get and still do fun things. It's the highest level low-level language there is.
So don't listen to the traditional approach folks. To teach someone how to program, he first has to understand how computers work. BASIC will teach him that easily, bottom-up, and he'll stay interested. Then, when he's got that down, he'll easily be able to learn more the MIT way.


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Course evaluations have been with us for almost 100 years, and for most of those years there has been an uneasy relationship between faculty members and administrators, and faculty members and their students. Are the ratings a valid scientific basis of determining the quality of teaching? Should they be relied upon for promotion, tenure, and salary decisions? Are the anticipation of ratings a cause of grade inflation? Prof. Zeng wades into this controversy. Other views are of course welcome.
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However, the situation may be significantly more complex. For example, in a 'difficult' class, some students may feel so challenged and unhappy so as to give a poor evaluation of the instructor, only to discover later that their grades are not bad at all because the grades are largely relative. Ironically, I know of a situation where students in the class were highly challenged by the course material from the very beginning, and several of them complained bitterly. Realizing that they would do poorly in the class, they dropped out before the deadline for class withdrawal. The remaining students liked the class and gave high evaluations.
It is well known that the response rate is influenced by a 'motivation gap' as disgruntled students are more motivated to do the evaluation. Another observation is that negative comments are typically much longer with many complaints, while the positive comments are typically short, like 'I enjoyed the class.'
High impact of negative evaluations: Potential consequences of this 'motivation gap' can be seen in an example illustrated in Figure 1. In a hypothetical situation with 30,000 students, if only the lower 75% of the class actually do the evaluation, i.e., the 25% that would give higher marks do not participate, the average score would be 0.55 points lower (2.45 as opposed to 3.00). If only the lower 50% participate, the average would be 0.80 points lower (2.20).
When the sample size is small, this situation becomes more stochastic. A total of 60 Monte Carlo simulations were conducted for a class of 20, again drawn out of a normal distribution of mean=3, standard deviation=1, as above. The upper panels in Figure 2 show a realization similar to the large sample case above. A more interesting case is shown in the lower panels of Figure 2, where the spread is relatively large. Even though there are only three very low scores (0 and 1), their impact on the average is high because one 0 needs three 4s to balance out, and one 1 needs two 4s to balance out (there are no 5s or 6s). When considering the 'motivation gap' which causes the potential higher scores not to be included, this impact is even more drastic. At a response rate of 75% from the lower scores, the average is now 0.62 points lower than the already not-so-high value of 2.70. The average is 0.9 points lower for the 50% response rate.
This high impact of extremely negative values on the average has the effect of driving the instructor to try hard not to 'alienate' the poor-performing students. It also makes it less likely that the instructor will make great effort tailored at the better students. This is a particularly important dilemma for classes that are designed for motivated majors but also open to a broader student body.
Evolution towards a feel-good education model? Unfortunately, as the only "quantitative" measure, these numbers are being increasingly used as a key criterion in decision-making processes including merit increase and promotion. In contrast, traditional tools such as evaluation from peers, input from exiting students, and assessment by the unit are deemed not reliable because they may come from the instructor's 'friends' or the happier students. They also require more effort to evaluate, and are thus being less and less used now.
Gradually, this will steer our teaching style towards getting the best student evaluation, not what is best for our students. Do the two goals coincide?
America is facing an increasingly competitive international environment. Our graduates are finding themselves not equipped with the strong technical skills demanded by a challenging information age, especially in the STEM areas. Overemphasis on CourseEval will steer our faculty members to tailor their teaching towards making the less-competitive students happy by, for example, focusing on easier and feel-good material, as opposed to challenging them and preparing them for the real world.
Figure 1 Distributions of a hypothetical course evaluation, assuming Gaussian distribution with mean 3.00 and standard deviation 1.00. The sample size (number of students) is 30,000. Potential biases due to a 'motivation gap' leads to an apparent mean lower by 0.55 if only the lower 75% students respond, and by 0.80 if only the lower 50% students respond.
Figure 2 Two hypothetical but realistic examples. Number of students in class is 20, and each response is 1 of 5 choices (0-4, corresponding to 'strongly disagree' to 'strongly agree'). The random samples are drawn from the same Gaussian distribution as in Fig.1 (mean=3, standard deviation=1). Upper 3 panels: the spread is moderate and the biases due to 'motivation gap' are similar to the large sample case in Fig.1. Lower 3 panels: the spread is large and the biases are heavily influenced by the few low ratings.


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For Immediate Release.
John Baldessari: Double Play
October 19 - November 21, 2012
Opening Reception: Friday, October 19th, 6-8 pm
Marian Goodman Gallery is very pleased to announce an exhibition of new works by John Baldessari titled "Double Play" to open on October 19th - November 21st, 2012.
The exhibition consists of a new series of paintings on canvas in which Baldessari engages us in his strategic and diverse practice of selection and montage, removal and assembly, 'taking an image to make an image'. In this series, he draws on the art historical canon, rather than photography and film, to juxtapose the part and whole, to contrast and weigh language, image, and color, and to interrupt context in order to arrive at new relationships, narrative allusions, or an enigmatic totality. "I am always looking to invert priorities, to make the unimportant important, leaving images out and letting [us] fill in the blanks", says Baldessari.
«On one hand I think the older an image is the more it is exhausted of meaning – where it is a cliché. It's dead. Because clichés are dead. I like the idea of playing Dr. Frankenstein and reinvesting the dead, a metaphor, with life again. Because clichés are true – they just have lost their meaning. And I can pump another kind of meaning back into it, but you are still aware of the source and where I'm directing the traffic.»1
Culling imagery from the history of painting, the Double Play works present motifs from art historical sources ranging from the 18th to 20th centuries, conflating visual fragments with adjoined and intersected areas of the canvas made from Baldessari's own hand-painted color overlays, to create a new hybrid zone of imagination. Paired against this interplay of gesture and media are unrelated texts drawn from song titles as various as Johnny Mercer and Tom Waits. Containing both image and text in combination that the artist considers equally important, each work explores the double life of the image or text, prompting the viewer to invoke their own memory to divine the origins of the work and to construct a new proposition, to unearth unexpected and evocative aggregates from disparate, recombined parts.
As the artist says, "Art comes out of art; if any artist doesn't admit to that, it doesn't ring true… The job of an artist is to keep art alive. The torch gets passed to you and you elect to keep it burning. As De Kooning wrote, 'a masterpiece is a masterpiece if it speaks to the present.' Just as the job of a writer is to make the reader feel intelligent, the job of an artist is to make the viewer feel intelligent. In a way, 'Double Play' is an art history test. Similarly the challenge with electing to incorporate musical titles and link them with images is that they mostly convey emotional states; the danger is in appearing like a Hallmark Card, which I diligently play against." (John Baldessari, September 2012)
John Baldessari continues to make pioneering work, developed over five decades of conceptual practice in astounding depth and breadth. His work includes photo-text paintings, conceptual works and composite photo-based works, as well as video, books, prints, objects and installation. His work has shaped the very definition of the artist's role while expanding and interrogating the borders between photography, painting, video, drawing, sculpture and installation.
John Baldessari was born in 1931, in National City, California. He lives and works in Santa Monica (CA). He was on the faculty of the California Institute of the Arts in Valencia (1970-1988) and the University of California, Los Angeles (1996-2007).
Currently his work is on view in John Baldessari: Video Works 1970-1977 at the Stedelijk Van Abbemuseum, Eindhoven through early October. Recent solo shows include John Baldessari A Print Retrospective from the Collection of Jordan D. Schnitzer and his Family Foundation at the MCA, San Diego which ended last Spring, as well as a solo exhibition Double Bill at Galerie Marian Goodman, Paris, last April/May.
John Baldessari was recently awarded the 2012 Kaiserring Award by the city of Goslar, Germany (past recipients have included Matthew Barney, David Lynch and Rosemarie Trockel). An accompanying solo exhibition of his work is on view at Monchehaus Museum, Goslar. He was also awarded the Golden Lion Award for Lifetime Achievement at the 2009 Venice Biennale. In 2008 he received the Biennial Award for Contemporary Art from the Bonnefantenmuseum, Maastricht.
He was also the subject of a recent lifetime retrospective organized by the Tate Modern, London that traveled to MACBA Barcelona; LACMA, Los Angeles. The Metropolitan Museum of New York celebrated him in a major exhibition "John Baldessari: Pure Beauty" in 2010-2011 which retraced his career from 1962 to 2010.
The first volume of John Baldessari: Catalogue Raisonné : Volume One: 1956-1974 covering his unique works during the years 1956-1974, has recently been published by Yale University Press (New Haven and London, 2012). John Baldessari: Catalogue Raisonne: Volume Two: 1975-1986 will be published in 2013.
1 «John Baldessari in conversation with Ann Goldstein» in Köb, Edelbert and Pakesch, Peter ; John Baldessari : Life's Balance, Work 84-04, (Cologne: Buchhandlung Walther Konig, 2004), page 91.
Please join us at the opening reception at the gallery on Friday, October 19th, from 6-8 pm.
For further information, please contact the Gallery at: 212 977 7160.


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ALFRED, Maine — A jury of 10 men and six women has been chosen to decide the guilt or innocence of a Thomaston businessman accused of helping run a prostitution business out of a Kennebunk fitness studio.
On the fourth day of jury selection — a process that was delayed nearly four weeks after appeals — Superior Court Justice Nancy Mills and attorneys for both sides in the case settled on a group of 12 jurors and four alternates they believe could be impartial.
As a result, opening arguments in the case are expected to be made Wednesday afternoon.
On trial is Mark Strong Sr., who faces 13 counts of promotion of prostitution for his alleged role in the running of a prostitution business out of the Kennebunk Zumba studio of co-defendant Alexis Wright. Wright faces a separate trial scheduled to begin in May.
During the final morning questioning potential jurors Wednesday, the second-floor courtroom at the York County courthouse was filled with approximately 55 remaining jury candidates, narrowed from a pool of more than 140 when the process began on Jan. 22.
Of those 55, the judge and attorneys had a list of 23 front-runners to be whittled down to a group of 16 to decide the trial.
Potential jurors were asked to stand if they would answer "yes" to a series of questions agreed upon by the attorneys in the case and asked by Mills. Four of the jury candidates, who only were identified by numbers, stood when asked if they might have scheduling conflicts if the trial lasts until March 15, as attorneys expect it might, and 12 stood when asked if they had read, seen, heard or been told about any developments in the case since they were last in the courthouse more than three weeks ago.
"Walking by the TV — you can't turn your ears off," said one juror.
"My grandma knows I'm here, and she can't stop talking about it," said another.
When the judge asked if anyone in the jury pool felt that his or her ability to be impartial in the trial has been affected by anything read or heard during the previous few weeks, however, no one stood.
Mills told the jury candidates that, although they had been told nearly a month ago that Strong faced 59 charges, he now faces 13. She asked if the reduction in counts the defendant faces may sway potential jurors' opinions of the case, but none stood. Likewise, no one stood when the judge asked if the long delay in the jury selection process — caused by a Jan. 25 prosecution appeal to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court opposing Mills' dismissal of all 46 privacy invasion charges against Strong — would cause anyone in the pool to feel differently about the case.
The judge and attorneys then invited four jury candidates to the second-floor law library for individual interviews to ask additional questions outside of the group setting in the courtroom. Members of the media were allowed to sit in on the interviews, thanks to a Jan. 24 ruling by the state supreme court in favor of the Portland Press Herald and its parent group, MaineToday Media, which had challenged Mills' previous decision to block public and media access to the jury selection process.
In the law library, one potential juror acknowledged working as a police officer in Kennebunk in the early 1970s, but said he knows nobody on the force now and does not believe he would favor the testimony of a police officer. Another, a Kennebunk landscaper, said one of his business clients had been charged as a john in the prostitution case and told attorneys he "strongly" believes prostitution should be legal.
The attorneys believed the former police officer could remain impartial, but both the prosecution and defense challenged the landscaper, and he was crossed off the list of potential jurors.
Just before noon, Mills informed those still in the pool that the clerk would read out 26 numbers, and the called jury candidates would be asked to stand. She then called off the numbers of the final 16 chosen after Mills conferred with attorneys.
The normally routine jury selection process has been anything but in the Strong case. Presiding Justice Nancy Mills said the effort represents the first time in 19 years in Superior Court she has failed to seat a jury in a day or less.
Mills said 250 jury summonses were distributed to York County residents, and more than 140 of those recipients showed up at the county courthouse on Jan. 22 to fill out questionnaires and sit for voir dire interviews with attorneys to determine whether they could be impartial in the trial.
For 2 ½ days of questioning, the interviews were held behind closed doors as Mills ruled that privacy would be necessary for attorneys to ask sensitive personal questions of the jury candidates. The trial is expected to feature heavy sexual content and illicit evidence, Mills reasoned, and potential jurors needed freedom from the public eye to answer questions about their sexual histories or views on pornography candidly.
Attorneys also sought to ensure that the jury candidates have not been influenced by the global media attention attracted by the prostitution scandal, nor have personal connections with any of the individuals involved in the sprawling case.
Law enforcement agencies at the local, county, state and federal levels played roles in the investigation, and nearly 70 people have been charged with paying for sex at the alleged prostitution business.


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An exquisite estate and vineyard owned by the Oscar-winning actor.
Hollywood icon, Robin Williams, is reportedly selling his unbelievable estate in Napa, CA with Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage mega-agents, Cyd Greer and Joyce Rey. As first featured on Yahoo Real Estate, the star of Dead Poets Society, Mrs. Doubtfire and the CBS comedy The Crazy Ones has one of the most amazing estates in Napa that looks like it was ripped from the pages of every luxury architecture magazine.
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This FAQ was originally published in [http://www.eclipsefaq.org Official Eclipse 3.0 FAQs]. Copyright 2004, Pearson Education, Inc. All rights reserved. This text is made available here under the terms of the [http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html Eclipse Public License v1.0].

This FAQ was originally published in [http://www.eclipsefaq.org Official Eclipse 3.0 FAQs]. Copyright 2004, Pearson Education, Inc. All rights reserved. This text is made available here under the terms of the [http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html Eclipse Public License v1.0].
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When you unzip the Eclipse SDK, it creates a base install directory called eclipse. The directory layout looks something like this:
eclipse/ features/ ''the directory containing Eclipse features'' plugins/ ''the directory containing Eclipse plugins'' eclipse.exe ''platform executable'' cpl-v10.html ''the CPL license'' install.ini jre/ ''the JRE to run Eclipse with'' notice.html readme startup.jar ''classes needed to start the platform''
You can start Eclipse by running eclipse.exe on Windows or eclipse on other platforms. This small launcher essentially just finds and starts a JVM. Alternatively, you can launch Eclipse by directly invoking the JVM as follows:
java -cp eclipse/startup.jar org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main
NOTE: As of Eclipse 3.3M5, startup.jar in the root folder has been replaced with org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_*.jar in the plugins folder. For details on launching Eclipse using Java (not eclipse.exe) with this new launcher, see Starting Eclipse Commandline With Equinox Launcher.
If available under the eclipse/jre directory, the Eclipse JRE will be used; otherwise the launcher will consult the JAVA_HOME system path variable. To explicitly specify a JVM of your choice, you can use the -vm command line argument:
eclipse -vm c:/jre/bin/javaw.exe
Another option is to put startup configuration into an
eclipse.ini file. The Eclipse program launcher will read arguments from either the command-line or the configuration file named
eclipse.ini. To specify a JVM using configuration file, create a text file named
eclipse.ini in the same folder as
eclipse.exe with these contents:
-vm c:/jre/bin/javaw.exe
Eclipse now will launch without additional arguments in the command-line, with the JVM specified in the
eclipse.ini configuration file. Windows users: please be sure that the file you created has .ini extension, you may need to uncheck the 'Folder Options:View:Hide file extensions for known file types' from the Windows Explorer's Tools menu..
You should always use -vm so you can be sure of what VM you are using. Installers for other applications sometimes modify the JAVA_HOME variable, thus changing the VM used to launch Eclipse without your knowing about it.
The first time the eclipse command is executed, the platform creates a workspace directory, such as eclipse/workspace. The workspace will contain all your projects, along with private metadata computed by various plug-ins.
In Eclipse 3.0, you are prompted to choose a workspace location on start-up. Previously, the platform stored the workspace in the Eclipse install directory by default. In all versions of Eclipse, you can manually specify the workspace location on the command line, using the -data <workspace-path> command-line argument. The easiest way to quickly start Eclipse on different workspaces for versions before Eclipse 3.0 is to create shortcuts or shell scripts for each launch.
The use of -data is advised because using the default workspace location will make it much more difficult for you to upgrade to new versions of Eclipse.
See Also:
- FAQ How do I increase the heap size available to Eclipse?
- FAQ How do I increase the permgen size available to Eclipse?
- FAQ Who shows the Eclipse splash screen?
- The Eclipse Program Launcher
- Equinox Wiki Category
- Running Eclipse 3.3M5+
This FAQ was originally published in Official Eclipse 3.0 FAQs. Copyright 2004, Pearson Education, Inc. All rights reserved. This text is made available here under the terms of the Eclipse Public License v1.0.
User Comments
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Lament For The Fallen (Banned)
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This is the Wall of the Banned, please bow your head respectfully and remember those who have come and gone before us.
Wall of the Banned:
Special mention to doggie015 who was banned in this very thread.
With the recent ban of Vault101 I was thinking about all of the good posters that have been banned over time and I realized that I am unable to remember all of the ones that I should. This made me think that there should really be a list of notable posters that have been banned. The purpose of the thread then is to post all of the Ex-Escapists that you consider to have been notable for one reason or another.
Feel free to reminisce about the Banned Ones if you wish, the more to remember them by in a single thread the better.
Forgotten Pr0digy and Webhead were also banned, but Pr0digy ban-jumped (rather poorly, as they used the same avatar)
Of your list, I only recognize 3 of them, one I didn't have much interaction with and the other two I'm not sad with their banning.
Also, not on your list, but there's someone else who was the very epitome of a strawman, a European that could never understand the American way of life, while he attempted to turn nearly every thread into an argument for banning of all firearms in the US.
Wonder if Daystar would ever get the ban, now that would be a national tragedy.
Oh wow, I hadn't even realized until now that I hadn't seen that Fox McCloud avatar in a very long time.
Wasn't Karutomaru a troll?
I remember Boudica. She was involved in some pretty heated debates, but she seemed pretty nice overall. I kind of liked her. Vault usually made me smile, whether that was because of her posts or because of her spelling, I know not. Maybe a bit of both. Karutomaru was fucking amazing. I loved that guy. Always got the forums red raw with his Capcom antics and his posts (and the ensuing chaos they always inspired) were a joy to read. I remember reading a lot of posts from Danyal. I also remember how half the forum would ignorantly accuse him of indulging in bestiality simply because he defended it. He pissed off a lot of people from what I remember, though I can't imagine why. He always seemed civil and nice enough.
That's about all there I care to reminisce about. I do remember Mortai Gravesend, very well, and I certainly shed no tear over his forum-passing. I recognise the name Matthew94 as well, though I didn't know him.
There would be so much mod baiting. Possibly threads filled with shock porn, the equivalent of marching in the streets. Open rebellion. The escapist would certainly be an interesting place for a week or two.
On a side note, the post that got vault101 seemed pretty vanilla. Just saying.
EDIT Just learned that she was banned because of many warnings, that makes more sense. Still sad to see such funny person go, but my sympathies are far less engaged now.
Not surprising. Whenever you see a long term or high post count member get banned, it's usually for an accumulation of small infractions, until one just tips things over.
I'm just off a two week suspension for calling a man a twerp while parodying a snooty theater goer. And since none of the mods bothered to actually respond to the three times I tried to dispute the suspension, I'll say it right here: I was joking, and the person in question responded to me without incident. Why the hell did you not at least give me a response to my challenging the suspension?
I can only remember Vault and Mortai Gravesend off the top of my head, although I do remember Boudica now that you mention her. Also, I did not realise Hammeroj was banned.
So that's why I've been seeing all those vault101 graveyard avatars. It seems kinda dumb how people who post more often are more likely to get banned simply due to accumulated minor infractions. Instead of 6 months it should be after a certain number of warning free posts that you get a warning removed. Vault101 wasn't a bad poster, she certainly doesn't deserve to be ranked alongside some of those people. Remember Zeel? I still wonder if his entire time on the Escapist was just one enourmous... uh... you know.
It's easy to slip up from time to time is what I'm getting at. If I accidentally get another warning I'm going to have to go on hiatus for a while, and that'll suck.
So is Vault's ban perma or is she returning eventually?
It seems kinda weird how the system works...
The small infractions are really quite brutal.
I never knew her, but apparently Zeithri helped us transgendered peeps around here by founding both of our primary usergroups. I would've liked to have met her at some point. She's banned now, not sure if by choice or not.
Also, I kinda miss some of those people, and kinda want to forget some others from that list. Mortai, Matthew, and Vault are some of the ones I remember a bit more fondly. Hell, I already miss Vault's substandard grammar a bit: it may have been barely readable, but when you could read it you could tell that she had more brains than she let on. I won't say I agree or disagree with the ban, but I will say I wish she was still here.
I like how forum celebrities of yesteryear are no longer mentioned in these lists. Reminds me of how useless the pursuit of the title really is. I only remember one banned member personally. Swollen Goat was funny before he got so bitter.
That Zeel guy was such a handsome, clever and pleasant fellow too! Why do the good die so young?
HA! Vault101 got banned? Oh man, the irony of this is too sweet for me. I'm gonna get cavities.
I still enjoy Furburt and Hubilub for their antics. Plus, Furburt introduced me to the awesomeness that is Braindead (Dead Alive)
Mostly it was his debating tactics. He had a tendency to open a thread with something relatively benign like "Do people have the right to be happy?", and after a page or so of general agreement, come back with something completely off the wall like "Well, bestiality makes people happy so if you oppose it you're a hypocrite" or something. He did that so often that many people started calling him on it as soon as he posted any thread with an ambiguously worded question or obvious answer. And, yeah, he did seem a bit obsessed with bestiality in general.
Religion and Politics tends to have a rather high turnover rate. Even if people don't do things to get them banned outright, arguments do tend to get heated and we've lost more than a few to attrition as the minor dings and scrapes of battle after battle eventually add up. Just the way of things, I suppose.
And there we go. Didn't take long. Still, they aren't on the initial lists anymore so my point still kind of stands. :P
I was at the tail end of their careers here, but they did leave their mark all right...
This has been done to death.
The redemption process is fair. And, if you haven't figured out how to post and not violate the Code of Conduct after getting 4 warnings, probation, a 3-day suspension and then a 2-week suspension, then perhaps this isn't the forum for you to be posting in.
In the end, it's really simple. Before you post a comment, proofread it. If you think there's a possibility it might violate the CoC, delete it and either try again or simply move on.
what happened to vault? I wasn't around when she kicked the bucket.
So this wasn't the forum for Vault101 to be posting in? She fit this community like a glove. A lot of genuinely decent members (IMO) have been banned so I find this viewpoint hard to believe. As far as I can tell the only thing that made Vault101 different than anyone else was that she posted a lot more frequently. That seems like an odd thing to punish someone for.
Seriously? You make it sound like it's always blatantly obvious when you post something in violation, it isn't at all. All three of my violations came as a complete surprise to me, even after I found out what they were for. And I've read the code of conduct page several times, I know the rules. I've even PMed numerous members before to warn them about posts that might get them into trouble. When it's happened to you it's hard to watch it happen to other's as well. So many noobies fall for the low content posts.
I honestly wouldn't have guessed the post that got Vault banned was bad either. I know I've seen far worse that have gone untouched.
I can tell you don't post as often as I do, and have no (current) warnings, so it seems odd for you to be dictating this stuff to me like that.
Wait, what? (Does double take). Holy crap, he's still alive. I never thought I'd see the day. That's a hell of a resurrection spell.
As for the infraction system, eh, I've had ups and downs with it. I think that the amnesty period would be better dropped to three months rather than six. Having cumulative infractions build up, even if it has been months since the last slip up leads to the kind of situations we get with Vault101. The infraction system is great for stopping frequently hostile posters, since they rack up very quickly. I just feel that infractions stay with you too long. One slip up here or there, such as a low content post or some mild ribbing that some take offense to, shouldn't be the reason to permaban.
If it has been something like five and a half months, and you've been on your best behavior, only for one derp moment to kill you, it kinda hurts. That is why I feel that a faster amnesty time, for minor stuff at least, would be better than waiting half a year for your health bar to regenerate ONE piece.
I disagree. These forums don't have any need a disrespectful user that posts an image of a crying child in response to someone else.
She wasn't punished for posting often. She was punished for 8 violations of the CoC.
To me, it is. Whenever I write a post that I think might attract mod wrath, I follow my own advice. Either try to reword it so it's safe, or I simply let the matter drop. If I can't make a point without being rude, then I reckon it's not a point worth making.
Even if you think others may have gotten away with worse, it doesn't mean you will get away with less.
You're right, I don't post as often as others. Mostly because I lurk, rarely have things to say and am not active in user groups.
Also, I've seen this scenario play out several times, a popular user's forum health fills up, they get banned and others say it's unfair.
We need the to call Special Agent Dale Cooper! Somebody needs to sort this weirdness out.
I don't even have words... uh
Okay, fair enough. So Zeel, were you being like... for real?
I guess more importantly, are you done talking about... you know... that.
Anyway, welcome back, I have a feeling things will get interesting.
Honestly, who knows? I mean look in this thread right now to see an example of someone returning.
I know how you feel...
Soviet Heavy does bring up a good point about the 6 month health regen, it is a little long but it is a very good deterrent and better than the old system.
Okay, but I've gotten 3 warnings, and none were for being "rude".
Low content posts, mentioning the T word, revealing that you've pirated stuff before, these and more can land you a warning. Sometimes things that are said jokingly can get you into trouble too because the mods can't always tell you aren't being serious.
I'm guessing you're already aware of all this, but if not you should know, you do have to be pretty careful.
I'm not saying it's inevitable, but your odds certainly increase if you post more often. That's basically a statistical fact.
Completely avoiding violations is certainly possible, even with a high post count, but we all make mistakes, we're human beings.
I get one more infraction and it's goodbye Akratus! Gotta be reeaal careful.
Also, Zeel! Hell of a guy. Such an agreeable fellow. I do think I'm one of his few supporters on this website.
I remember there was that Max guy (can't remember the full username) when I first started on here. He was a writer as I recall, and he had a tonne of posts. Then he got banned for...something, I remember he was there one day then he wasn't. Not sure if people lamented, back a few people mentioned him over time, the memories aren't clear, it was a while ago.
I give it a week! :D
OT: Shit, Hammeroj was finally banned? Surprised it took so long. He was very aggressive in his posts.
I miss Danyal. R&P just hasn't been the same without him.
I also miss Sober Thal's drunken late night rants. The irony in that statement.
Mythrandia. I miss Mythrandia. Best posts ever. :(
Karutomaru was great until he decided that Capcom was the Devil. Yeesh.
Captcha: labour of love. Hey! Dis is 'Murka! You kin take yur superfluous 'u' an' shove it! >:(
I actually wish Karutomaru was still alive. He/she was very interesting.
@wintercoat You underestimate me. After all I did get unbanned. I'm sure I can behave myself for a few weeks.
I am somewhat new to forums in general, with the escapist being my first trip into a actual forum and it always weirds me out how quickly these "ecosystems" (lame description, but its 4 A.M. so I am going with it. Besides, sounds better than "microcosm".) form, complete with celebrities, rivalries, friendships, memorials for fallen comrades and the like. I have always thought of the internet more in Yahtzee's terms of being like throwing notes in bottles into oceans made of notes in bottles, so it seems strange that communities with recognizable members could form. Interesting thing to be a part of, glad I am. Vault101 is the only one I ever really saw at all.
No Demented Teddy? That guy was a freak.
Also MaxTheReaper. What a funny cunt.
And PirateKitty. Oh well, no lament here.
All of which are covered by the CoC, which we all had to agree to in order to register.
I disagree. Violating the CoC gets you penalized. Not violating the CoC doesn't.
This is a matter of content, not volume.
Agreed. That's why we have seven chances to make mistakes and learn from them.
However, if someone fails to learn from their actions after committing seven infractions, then they have earned and completely deserve the ban that will soon follow.
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DENY Rosie Brown
Rosie Brown Bursting Bromeliad Quatrefoil Mirror
About Art: blue, turquoise, abstract, floral, geometric, landscape,
Mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest one of all? Well that's easy…the quatrefoil mirror collection, of course! With a sleek mix of baltic birch ply trim that's unique to each piece and a glossy aluminum frame, this mirror makes you feel oh so pretty every time you catch a glimpse.
- Baltic birch ply frame and high gloss aluminum printed front with UV resistant coating
- Quality glass mirror
- Mounting hardware included
- Custom made in the USA
- Estimated Ship Date: 5-10 business days
- This item is eligible for a return or exchange in new condition within 30 days
Small: 14" x 19" x 1"
Small inner mirror size: 11" x 8.5"
Medium: 22" x 29" x 1"
Medium inner mirror size: 16" x 12"
Rosie Brown has been painting in different mediums her entire life.Rosie Brown's paintings reflect Florida living: vibrant colors, gorgeous seascapes, and all things tropical. She is a signature member of the Miami Watercolor Society, a member of the Florida Watercolor Society, and a docent at the Lowe Art Museum at the University of Miami. Rosie moved to the United States from Cuba at the age of nine. She graduated with a business degree from Florida International University, but she continued to pursue her passion for painting as a hobby. After a successful business career, she retired and now focuses on her painting full time.