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From Athens with Pride: 120 years of Olympic History unveiled
9 May 2014
AOC: Australian athletes and administrators have played a pivotal role in the Olympic Movement for 120 years.
Over this period Australian Olympians have become household names around the world and their heroics are amongst the greatest memories of a sports loving nation. Australia has also hosted the Games twice in Melbourne in 1956 and Sydney 2000.
Australian historian and award winning writer Harry Gordon CMG AM has managed to capture with wit and wisdom the emotion of the wins and losses, and the commitment of our athletes to be the best in their chosen sport over this period in his latest book, From Athens With Pride, launched in Sydney today.
GALLERY: See images from the Book Launch here, courtesy of Getty Images
Over 300 pages of Gordon's magic words are complemented with beautiful imagery from 1896 to 2014. The title of this book reflects, so accurately, the history of the Australian Olympic movement.
AOC President John Coates asked Gordon in 2012: 'it's about time we have an update of your 1994 Olympic history book mate, isn't it?'
The project was soon underway. All previous chapters have been updated and there is a totally fresh contemporary design. Those magic moments and controversies since 1994 have all been captured, concluding with the Sochi Games in Russia.
Coates, who is also now the IOC Vice President, paid tribute to Gordon for the remarkable work done during the 18 month project and years and years of research.
"The book tells the stories of all our superheroes and all the Olympians," Coates said.
"He explains the culture behind these Olympians and it's going to be important for us as Olympians from the past, to pass the baton to future Olympians. This is a book that they can reflect on."
Coates also spoke of the defining moments for Olympic fans in Australia and the AOC, written about in From Athens With Pride.
"It's important for the Australian Olympic Committee because it chronicles the two great events in our history. And that is hosting the Games in Melbourne and in Sydney.
"It also tells the story of the defining event, so far as I am concerned, in the history of the Olympic Committee here, and that is the rejection of the Governments request that we boycott the Moscow Games, which established once and forever that we are a National Olympic Committee that is independent of Government- and that's been so important!"
Coates also joked about the 'salacious gossip' that is contained in the Afterword chapter which discusses the sometimes tumultuous relationship between Coates and former IOC members Kevan Gosper and Phil Coles.
"It had to be said and it's a good read Harry. I thank you very much."
At the book launch in Sydney attended by Olympians, media, friends and the AOC Executive Gordon reflected on how rewarding his Olympic journey, which started at the 1952 Helsinki Games, had been.
"Being here today in this company and a room of people like this reminds me of how rich and rewarding and fortunate a life I've had in terms of making lifelong friendships and watching breathtaking performances," Gordon said.
"The history of the Australian Olympic movement should make us all proud. It certainly should be known to more aspiring athletes and I believe it should be taught in schools. My book pays tribute to the Olympic pioneers."
Gordon also spoke of how the Olympic movement has changed since the original founder Baron Pierre de Coubertin who was against professionalism and women competing in sport. How times have changed!
Rome 1960 Olympic 1500m champion Herb Elliott launched the book. He told how the pair had become great friends but he knew of Harry before they met. He read an article that Gordon had written when he was a newspaper editor in Melbourne, which was an open letter to the great miler John Landy after he stopped to help Ron Clarke at the National Championships.
Elliot said at the time of reading he 'fell in love with the simple eloquent language. He then explained how nothing has changed in the decades since then and Gordon's 16th book From Athens With Pride.
"Once you pick that book up and open a page, you're engrossed and you're wrapped and you just can't put it down," Elliot said.
"It's beautifully written and Harry shows us the Olympic Games through the eyes of the participants, the human experience of being in the Olympic Games. Because every Olympian does have a story and every paragraph in this book could have been a chapter."
Edwin Flack's double athletics gold in the marble stadium in Athens in 1896 started the enviable run of having Australian athletes in every Summer Games. Remarkably Australia has been represented at all but four Winter Games in the modern era since 1924 and reaching the podium 12 times across the past five Games.
On top of this, Australia has hosted the Games in Melbourne in 1956, Sydney in 2000 and had administrators in prominent roles on the International Olympic Committee.
Australia's involvement started at a congress in Paris in 1894, which ended up creating the modern Olympic Games, has continued through to the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games.
One absorbing feature of this book is a complete list of all the Olympians who have represented Australia at both Summer and Winter Olympics, from Athens 1896 to Sochi 2014, and all those who have contributed to the nation's total of 495 gold, silver and bronze medals.
From Athens with Pride is a masterful book, full of tales of persistence, personal strength and above all, courage to win an Olympic medal for Australia. The Foreword is written by Lord Sebastian Coe who was an Olympic Champion, mastermind of the London 2012 Games and always a big fan of Australian Olympic Teams.
The inspirational book was beautifully published by Custom Publishing, University of Queensland Press and will be available in stores in a shortly.
Andrew Reid


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Seahawks left waiting for division title
The celebration of an NFC West title was put on hold for the
Seattle Seahawks.
And unless they get some help, the delay could be for at least
another two weeks.
"We would've loved to come out on top. We had our chance and we
let the opportunity get away," Seattle coach Pete Carroll said on
"So we crank it up. It's really important, as we have
throughout regardless of what the game is before, you have to
handle it properly and put it in the right perspective and move
forward effectively."
Seattle's 19-17 loss to San Francisco on Sunday was the Seahawks
first setback in more than two months.
It snapped a seven-game win streak and left Seattle (11-2) still
needing two more wins – or a win and a 49ers loss – to clinch the
division title.
They still hold the best record in the NFC and have a one-game
lead over New Orleans – along with the head-to-head tiebreaker – in
the race for home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs.
But they realize a chance to make the final three weeks of the
season a tuneup for the playoffs is now gone. These games will have
significant meaning, perhaps all the way to Week 17.
From that standpoint, the loss to San Francisco may not be as
much of a negative.
"I don't think there is any question it can help if you use it
right. It's a learning opportunity again, a reality check. How the
littlest of things can determine the outcome of a game and being in
a good hard-fought game is good always," Carroll said.
"I like the other guys to learn the hard way, as always, but
that is not the case. There will be an emphasis throughout the last
three games of this year, every one of them is going to count in a
big fashion and they're all going to make a difference that will
call on us to be on it all the way throughout."
The loss also came with an injury cost. Outside linebacker K.J.
Wright suffered a fractured bone in his foot and is scheduled to
have surgery on Tuesday to insert a screw and stabilize the
fracture. Carroll said the initial prognosis is that Wright will
miss 4 to 6 weeks, but won't be fully determined until after the
Wright's absence will create an opportunity for Malcolm Smith,
who started at the opposite outside linebacker position earlier in
the season and now gets the chance to start at his natural weakside
linebacker spot.
"That's where he's played a lot for us over the years. He
understands the position really well," Carroll said.
Center Max Unger was the other significant injury to come out of
Sunday. Unger suffered a strained pectoral muscle in the second
half and was replaced by backup Lemuel Jeanpierre. Carroll said
Unger will be limited in practice this week, but hopes he'll be
able to play Sunday.
While Seattle's defense managed to keep Colin Kaepernick from
making a major impact on the game, the most damaging play was Frank
Gore's 51-yard run that led to the game-winning field goal.
Both middle linebacker Bobby Wagner and strong safety Kam
Chancellor overran the play and Gore was able to cut back. Earl
Thomas also took a poor angle to try and clean up the play and Gore
was able to slide past him and into the open field.
Carroll said the play should have been held to a far shorter
"We were going this way and he was going that way," Carroll
said. "So they blocked it well up front, but we had plenty of
shots to keep it to being an 8-to-9 yard gain."
Seattle also committed nine penalties, and many coming at costly
times that either erased sizeable gains on offense or were
defensive penalties that kept drives for San Francisco going.
Seattle has committed at least six penalties in every game and
nine or more seven times.
"I don't think that was the story of the game at all," Carroll
said. "In terms of where I would be criticizing the officials, I
don't see it as that, but penalties really were a big factor in the
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The saying "home is where the heart is" very rarely relates to contemporary art. And though the works featured here are not directly about home, they are informed to some degree by immediate family,relationships and experiences that stem from it. In a global spectrum of east meets west these five artists come from genres ranging from Chinese Avant Garde to lowbrow painting, from surrealism to contemporary portraiture, to name a few. The paintings, mixed media works and digital media stills of artists: Song Dong, Brooke Grucella, Seonna Hong, Aaron Holz and Zhang Xiaogang exemplify the diversity with which the artists' loved ones have become not only the subject for the works, but also at times part of the process, as well as a platform to tell a story that becomes increasingly universal.
I recall visiting the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco a couple of years ago to see Song Dong's massive solo exhibition of works made with his family members as subjects, as well as a massive installation that incorporated decades worth of of family possessions as material. His work is deeply personal, with a strong narrative thread, and truly draw you into his world with their reverence and profoundly flawless execution. Zhang Xiaogang's works from his series Bloodlines uses other family portraits as a vehicle for conveying the experiences of his immediate family that they experienced as he came of age during the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Each piece in this series has a thin red line that weaves throughout the composition, symbolizing the connection of heritage and family.


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Australia's AAA-rated economy has been recession-proof for more than two decades, and its benchmark stock index, the S&P/ASX 200, is near levels not seen since mid-2011. Are things now about to change?
Credit Suisse strategist Atul Lele says the Aussie economy will likely be weak in 2013 as tight policies pressure consumption at home, while weak commodity prices affect investments in mining projects. What's worse, leading indicators are pointing to a "substantial" increase in unemployment in the year ahead, he says.
The brokerage estimates the S&P/ASX 200's fair value in the range of 4,000 to 4,500 points – the index was around 4,720 in afternoon trading Monday – as domestically focused sectors including banks, discretionary retail, and construction haven't yet priced in a weak domestic economic environment.
"Against the backdrop of stable, but not strong, global growth and weak domestic growth, we see globally-exposed stocks and sectors, and domestic defensive sectors, as having the best earnings growth in 2013," Lele says.
The Australian economy has expanded continuously in real terms between 1992 and 2011, according to FactSet data, with the lowest growth being 1.4% in 2009 and the highest being 5% in 1998.
Lele says the Reserve Bank of Australia is likely to continue easing its monetary policy, as growth weakens "more precipitously" in the first quarter of 2013, and sees the potential for about 1.5 percentage points in rate cuts over the coming year.
The RBA's cash rate currently stands at 3%, following a series of rate cuts from a peak of 4.75% in early October of 2011.
The bond market wasn't pricing in such policy actions as of Dec. 31. But bond proxy exposures were likely to outperform in 2013, benefiting long-duration assets such as Australian Real Estate Investment Trusts (A-REITs), infrastructure and utility sectors, Lele adds.
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Counterfeits - a sour note for retailers
Black Friday: long lines, harried clerks, stressed-out shoppers hunting for door-buster deals.
It's also a prime time for criminals to slip in a counterfeit bill or two when they pay at the register.
"Yeah, that's a big counterfeit day," said Chip Roberts, a Secret Service agent with 11 years of experience chasing phony money. "Every day is a big counterfeit day."
Billions of forged American dollars are spread across the world. But each year during the holiday shopping season, Secret Service agents in San Francisco see a noticeable uptick in the number of people trying to pass off a copy machine C-note as a U.S. Mint C-note.
Each week, the local Secret Service office collects $55,000 in fake bills from Northern California banks, and that number is expected to jump before Christmas.
For some merchants, like Target or Best Buy, the fake $100 bills are just the cost of doing business. But for some small businesses, hoping holiday season sales will help balance a slow year, a few phony notes can ruin the bottom line.
Repeat visits
Cole Hardware in San Francisco learned that lesson this year after getting hit three times in August by someone dropping fake $100 bills.
"When somebody realizes they can use it, they come back the next day and the next day," said Julia Strzesieski, the store's marketing director. "It is hard for small business. We have better systems in place now. Every time we take a bill that is $20 or more, we check it with the counterfeit pen."
It is mostly up to merchants to protect themselves, because the government doesn't reimburse them for accidentally accepting fake money, said Charlie White, assistant special agent in charge of the San Francisco Secret Service office.
A large part of the attraction for counterfeiters, Roberts said, is the hectic nature of holiday shopping. Clerks dealing with pushy customers and long lines are too busy to check every bill properly, especially when someone plops down $700 cash in a mix of real and impressively faked $20 bills.
"You're in Best Buy and there's a whole line of people, you're not going to notice, if you check at all," Roberts said. "There's going to be long lines, they're going to have young tellers. They're not going to look at that money - they're going to look at those 15 people in line."
These days, most counterfeit bills made in Northern California aren't turned out by a highly organized criminal cabal.
Instead, it's mostly meth addicts, low-level gangbangers, pot dealers or bored 14-year-olds with access to a scanner and color printer, White said.
"They're stereotypically called white-collar crimes, but most of the time the guys involved don't even have collars on," Roberts said.
Sophisticated methods
Scan a bill, print it on quality paper, add a little glitter, and you've got a bill good enough to fool a clerk who isn't paying attention.
More sophisticated counterfeiters will bleach a $5 bill of its ink and reprint the image of a $100 bill on the note. The bill looks real enough, but with the watermark of Lincoln, not Franklin, White said.
The Secret Service was founded in 1865, when more than a third of American currency in circulation after the Civil War was counterfeit. Agents didn't take on their more famous duties of protecting the president and other dignitaries until 1902.
These days, when clerks don't notice fake bills, banks will reject the bills and merchants will be out the money and whatever item they sold. And when clerks do notice, it can be difficult to prosecute, because those passing the notes can say they didn't know the money wasn't legitimate.
Comparison test
In fact, many people who get flagged for using counterfeit money don't even know they've been carrying around fake bills. They got it as change from the corner store and stuffed it in a pocket without a second thought.
In the weeks leading up to Christmas, White and Roberts will visit merchants around the Bay Area and offer tips on how to spot fake bills.
The easiest way, White said, is to compare it with the real thing.
"Get one that you know is real, keep it out and compare it," he said. "Nine times out of 10, you'll know right away that something isn't right.
"You just cannot re-create the genuine currency," he said. "It cannot be done."
How to feel a phony bill
How can you pick out the counterfeit bill?
Experts say it's not the portrait, or the misalignment of numbers, the run-together pattern, or even the missing red and blue threads that will first tip you off. It is the feel that will instantly alert you to the fact that something is wrong. Take a good look at a bill that 'feels different.' There is a good chance that it's counterfeit.
Source: www.bankersonline.com
Will Kane is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-mail: email@example.com Twitter: @WillKane


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:Lobo Santo (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:20am
Making Fabric......is easier than finding fabric.
That's why it's called 'fabrication.'
Pixelation, 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:21amMaybe they are looking to weed out this type of person. Prevention/ cure kind of thing. I have little sympathy for these guys. Anyone willing to randomly blow up innocent people...do I even need to say it?
CoCo Was Screwed, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:35am
Re:Yeah and maybe each and every one of us should have our phone, internet,email, TV, radio, Library, and Toner usage monitored just so they can weed out the folks that might do us harm. Because a pound of prevention...
By the way, I am willing to do a lot of things, Like fly into outer space or direct a movie as good as Michael Bay does or build a device that lets me play with large natural boobs whenever I want, but you know what, I don't know how to do any of that stuff. But is someone came along and helped me, well then who knows!
ChadBroChill (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 1:21pm
Re: Re:"direct a movie as good as Michael Bay does"
*Ahem* ROFLMAO!
I think a monkey with a pyrotechnics detonator could "direct" a movie as well as Michael Bay.
pixelpusher220 (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:08am
Re:I sort of liken this to what NYC did to stop their crime issue. They focused on the small petty crimes, the first time offenders. This effectively cut off the recruitment organized crime did for bigger and more dangerous stuff.
When there isn't a burgeoning class of criminals learning the 'system' its much harder to build the gangs/mafia/etc.
So trolling for people who simply 'want' to do bad things might have some relevant use.
The salient difference is NYC worked with actual offenders, not people simply upset and angry enough to possibly do something in the future ala Minority Report.
interval (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:51am
Re:"Maybe they are looking to weed out this type of person."
Maybe. Lemme ask you; how many of these stings does the FBI need to make before you start getting nervous about it? A few more? 100? 100 weekly? Should the media start printing "plots discovered" scores like the "body counts" from the Viet Nam war? (If your too young just google 'em) Should we include anyone who is caught with bomb making materials. Now, suppose the FBI started planting evidence about terrorist plots? Illegal you say? Well... lets just keep going down this road, shall we?
Pixelation, 9 Dec 2010 @ 4:53pm
Re: Re:"Lemme ask you; how many of these stings does the FBI need to make before you start getting nervous about it? "
The thing is, these people are willing/ active participants. Planting evidence? Are you saying these 2 cases were planted evidence? Citation please...
Lemme ask you; how many of these people need to find the person who helps them blow up innocent people before you get nervous?
Ken Downs, 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:09am
Re: Weeding outAs I recall, Winston Smith was successfully "weeded out" of society by recruiting him into an underground movement. The only member of this underground movement that he ever met was O'Brien, who was a government agent. The "movement's" manifesto, supposedly written by a dissident named Goldstein, was actually written by O'Brien as well.
Kind of scary how much of 1984 is coming true.
Once it becomes ok to start "weeding" society, where does it end?
If fictional accounts like 1984 are not satisfactory, read up on the Soviet Union. They did not have the resources to build a 'telescreen' system as described by Orwell, so they sowed suspicion in the population and encouraged people to inform on each other. Kind of like Walmart helpfully reminding people "if you see something, say something." See something like what? A plane heading for a building at low altitude? In Walmart? A better slogan might be, "If you see something run screaming and get out of the way because the bomb is about to go off."
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:23amWell I feel that if the guy didn't found the FBI he probably would have found somebody who did know something.
Thank God the most angry people are also the dumbest.
The thing I don't like about this is not that they caught the guy, but they use those things to make up a level of threat that isn't there, while apparently ignoring to do the basic stuff like trying to not let those people get radicalized in the first place.
What is the government actually doing to not create an infinite stream of extremists outside and inside the USA?
Those things I don't see the FBI trumpeting, where are the operations to win the hearts and minds?
:Lobo Santo (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:33am
Re: Thank God the most angry people are also the dumbest.Sir, on behalf of all angry people I take offense to that!
Stupidity is connected with getting caught, not being angry.
Gabriel Tane (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:49am
Re: Re: Thank God the most angry people are also the dumbest.Thank you LS. I owe you a beer.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 3:13pm
Re: Re: Thank God the most angry people are also the dumbest.Dear Sr SaintWolf,
I disagree, being angry makes you stupid, it clouds judgment and common sense and leads to mistakes, it overrides the sense of self preservation. Great anger is like tunnel vision you loose awareness of your surroundings and can only focused in one thing the object of your anger.
Try playing age of empires angry and see if you can beat anyone or any other game really, racing angry will lead you to try to bump the other car to make you feel better but won't make you win a race.
On youtube there are countless hilarious(from the outside) videos of "Bad day in the office"
Bad day in the office compilation
Have a nice day.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:50am
Re:Hearts and minds? Can never be done. Some people are just fundamentally wired to take the contrary position to anything those they see as authority figures take.
As individuals, they're not worth listening to because you can so easily predict what they're going to say in any given situation. As a group, they serve an extremely minimal purpose in that a contrary position, no matter how absurd, will always be out there for those who choose to think for themselves to examine.
Christopher Gizzi (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:27am
Would BeIts as if the FBI equates "would be if" terrorists equally with actual threats. A "would be if" person is someone who would be something if they could only... Otherwise, they're normal people who don't act on anything. They complain, maybe, but never enough to do something.
Throw the keys to a Lamborghini to someone who can only afford a used Pinto and say have at it... they're going to take you up on your offer. They now have that opportunity they wouldn't have otherwise had.
The FBI profiles the wrong people. They assume that all wanna bes are equal threats. If they feel someone is talking the talk - investigate. But if they don't have the determination, means, or connections to carry out something serious... monitor but don't waste real resources on an arrest that takes their eyes off the real ball.
But maybe that's why they're the "Intelligence" and I'm not.
Michial Thompson, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:13am
Re: Would BeYou could actually take this one step further... Would these wanna bes even have been wanna bes if the FBI hadn't encouraged the behavior.
Millions of Americans think about committing suicide each day. Only a small percentage of those that think about it even attempt it.
But the question that should be asked, how many that think it but never act could be encouraged to act on their thoughts????? This is the actual group that the FBI is preying on with these stories....
I could care less if someone Hates Americans or even talks about hating Americans. This is their right, and I served and faught for that right for them just as much as for my Right to hate them too....
I don't need my Tax Dollars spent to censor their right to Hate me. I want my Tax Dollars spend where the real threat lies, which is in those ALREADY planning to kill me. Those just thinking about it are no threat until they take the first step to act on that thought.
Obviously, it's not good to have people who are willing to blow stuff up, but with so many of these stories, you have to wonder if the FBI wouldn't be better off focusing on those who not only want to harm Americans, but who actually have the ability to do so.First, "With so many of these..", since when does two constitute "so many". Second, it seems to me they are doing the job of catching idiots who want to blow stuff up. If you have intent and act on that intent then yes you need to be in jail. Read up on unloaded gun felonies, it's one of the first things they teach in just about any criminology or law program.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:37am
Re: Reeeally?Yeah, I support entrapment too.
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:39am
Re: Reeeally?First, I found four following the links provided.
Two, the problem isn't that they catch people, the problem comes when they seem to push these people into doing what they think about, but wouldn't have the drive or ability to do alone.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:39am
Re: Reeeally?How many Republicans do you think would pull the trigger on Obama if you set them up with the vantage point and the sniper rifle?
Quite a few, I imagine. How many would do it if you didn't give them everything they needed and encourage them to do it? Next to none.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:54am
Re: Re: Reeeally?Only the very stupid ones. He's done more to advance the conservative movement than any Republican since Reagan. Which is why I voted for him.
pixelpusher220 (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:27am
Re: Re: Re: Reeeally?You mean like handing them the rope that they'll hang themselves with? you betcha :)
GOP: Deficits matter Deficits matter, we can't spend money we don't have!
TeaParty: Great, we'll vote for you!
GOP: We won't let anyone help the economy unless we get tax cuts for the ultra rich that are wholly added to the deficit. When we negotiated the deal, we grabbed even more money for the rich through an estate tax deduction that does absolutely squat for the economy.
uh...not exactly going to turn out well for them me thinks.
Obama has been vilified through primarily distortions and outright lies. The GOP to a man wants things that help the rich by spending what we don't have and claims that will help the rest of the country. Except it hasn't worked in 10 years of their policies.
The Dems, while certainly spending money we don't have, are passing stuff that actually helps the majority of people in this country.
If we're going bankrupt anyway, I'll take the latter thank you very much.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:46am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reeeally?You obviously fail to understand even the fundamentals of the GOP, fiscal conservatism, capitalism, the tea party movement, why people choose to believe in the preceding, and macro economics at the very least. Until you do you're incapable of having an intelligent discussion on politics.
Also, I did not and don't currently plan on vilifying President Obama. I'm quite happy with the job he's done of pissing off enough of the electorate to hand congress back to the GOP and making it possible for the GOP to do some house cleaning on some of the more corrupt members of the party. In fact, I'm fairly certain he even genuinely believes in a fair portion of the policies he espouses. I don't see any particular reason he needs to be a villain to be wrong though.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:18am
Re: Re: Reeeally?Another AC in post #12 wrote: How many Republicans do you think would pull the trigger on Obama if you set them up with the vantage point and the sniper rifle? Quite a few, I imagine.
I certainly hope your "imagination" is not common among those who hate republicans. Of course, you may be projecting your own homicidal desires for Bush (Cheney, Palin, etc). Hate-filled and paranoid is no way to go through life. I honestly, sincerely hope that one day, you (and those who agree with you) get the psychiatric help you so desperately need.
Chargone (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:41am
Re: Re: Re: Reeeally?someone has clearly not seen the idiocy that is American partisan politics from the outside.
Gabriel Tane (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 12:07pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reeeally?Well, we haven't gotten to shooting yet... just curbstomping:
http://videogum.com/238772/rand-paul-supporters-curb-stomp-protester-officially-making-this-the- funnest-election-ever/top-stories/
Gabriel Tane (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:53am
Re: Reeeally?
"First, "With so many of these..", since when does two constitute "so many". "
Well, since we're talking about a federal agency exercising a plan to manufacture 'terrorists' and then arrest them for it; all just so they can look like they're doing something while not actually increasing the safety of the people they're there to protect... I'd say one is too many. How many would you like to see to justify a grammatical choice of "so many"?
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:53am
Re: Reeeally?There are only two of these stories ... on techdirt.
Perhaps we should only comment on things we actually know something about. You can Google Chris Christie (current governor of New Jersey) and you shouldn't have a problem finding a few of the dozens of cases like this one.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:52am
BBC DocumentryGo to youtube, and search for "The Power of Nightmares" it very thoroughly documents the "slam dunk" cases the FBI has invented.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:24am
Re: Reeeally?"since when does two constitute "so many"."
As someone pointed out, Techdirt alone points out four such cases, and as someone else points out, there are many more than four that haven't made their way onto techdrit.
and exactly how many real terrorists have the FBI (or the feds in general) caught (and, don't tell me they wouldn't announce it. If they're so eager to even announce and celebrate over the fabricated terrorists that they caught, they would be more than willing to announce any real terrorists they have caught. and, as Techdirt points out, even the TSA, in the past, has announced when it did find something somewhat significant).
The only reason the feds are doing this is because they're too stupid to ever catch a real terrorist (they leave that job up to citizens/passengers) and so this is the best they can do to look productive. After all, they must do something to justify all the wasted tax dollars, right?
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:31am
Going a little to farWhy does the FBI have to wait until the suspect pushes the button? Wouldn't a civilian buying explosives be enough to arrest these people? Add that on top of the suspect's known planning, and that makes a fairly good case and it makes the FBI look like they know what they're doing.
Scare mongering hypothetical:
What would have happened if this guy found out the bomb was a dud and got a new one that worked? Imagine the look on the FBI agents faces when the bomb actually blew up.
I know that in reality the FBI were probably watching the guy and would cut him off if he tried to get a real bomb, but again, why do they have to wait until he actually pushes the button?
Re: Going a little to farI wonder that as well.
Matthew (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:37am
Re: Going a little to farSo that they have an airtight case when it goes to court. There's no way for the guy to argue that he wouldn't really have gone through with it.
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:40am
Re: Re: Going a little to farI think attempting to purchase illegal explosives with the intent to harm would be good enough.
cgt (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:58am
Re: Re: Re: Going a little to farWell, making him actually press the button won't hurt the case, and if the bomb is fake, no harm done.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:59am
Re: Re: Re: Going a little to farYou assume the explosives are illegal though. There are plenty of ways to get explosives that aren't illegal. Charcoal, sulfur, and saltpeter are all legal to buy and can fairly easily be mixed together to make black powder, for instance.
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:03am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Going a little to farBut the second you make that into a bomb, you're in possession of illegal explosives. No button pushing necessary.
Did they say what this guy got? Maybe it was Charcoal, sulfur, and saltpeter, maybe it was C4.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:36am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Going a little to farActually no, there are quite a few explosives you're allowed to possess even in weaponized forms. Granted, the FBI probably didn't tell these guys they were buying anything they were legally allowed to have but again I'm not sure that attempting to buy illegal explosives is illegal. Attempted mass-murder, that I'm sure is illegal.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:40am
Re: Going a little to farAbsolutely! And anyone buying a PC should also be arrested for planning to pirate software.
Last time I looked, it was perfectly legal to buy fertilizer and diesel fuel. Granted, in large enough quantities someone may come visit just to make sure, but they can't arrest you for it.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:02am
Re: Re: Going a little to farWhich is a very good thing for all the farmers in the mid-west. They tend to buy both in quantity on a fairly regular basis.
Urza9814, 9 Dec 2010 @ 12:48pm
Re: Going a little to far"Wouldn't a civilian buying explosives be enough to arrest these people?"
No. Second amendment. By your logic hunting would be illegal. As would the demolition industry. And Hollywood. And a lot of stuff people do just for the hell of it. But yes, when you add on the planning and such, then that would probably be enough if you could prove he had very concrete plans - as in, he has all the materials, all the equipment, and has his plot planned down to what time on what date he's going to do it...and how he's getting there, how he's getting away, etc.
Requiring any less than that, though, is a _very_ scary thought to me. Most Americans probably have everything they would need to make at least a small bomb sitting in their house. They may not know it, but it's probably there. And I'm sure plenty of people have, in jest or out of frustration, said something like "I'm going to kill..." or "I'm going to blow up..." or whatever. I don't think that either of those things (or the two together) should be enough to arrest somebody.
deadzone (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:39amI feel safer all the time! Who wouldn't feel safe when you have the best numbskulls tax money can buy in charge?
molecule (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 8:59am
Same thing, last yearSpringfield, Illinois, September 2009
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:03amI think we would rather that the fbi give a guy like this a bomb that won't work, rather than waiting to let him find someone who will give him one that works well. This isn't fabrication, this is giving a potential terrorists everything he needs to expose himself (and possibly others) for what they are.
You make it sound like the FBI held his hand, carried the bomb for him, turned it on for him, drove him too and from the location, and then just tagged his name on the deal randomly. What a crock. He is a terrorists that, in his heart, felt he was about to hurt and kill innocent citizens. Congrats to the FBI for sussing him out and doing what was needed before people died, rather than after.
Charlie Potatoes, 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:56am
Re: Stupid SOBsThere are always a few dumb sons of bitches who don't get it.
Darryl, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:08am
silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?So I guess it would have been ok for another group to have found these people?
Groomed them for their task, and assisted them to carry it out, and not the FBI ?
Sure, it would have been far better for them to find some Al Qaeda people to 'help' them get the job done.
Its clear the FBI took appropriate measures to ensure they had opportunity to back out, they stated clearly they give these people multiple chances to stop their intended actions, and on each occasion they chose to continue.
So if it had not been the FBI, then it would have been some other group..
and probably a group, that would not stop it and who would ensure it DID happen, and people were killed..
Its up to you, but I think if someone is willing to carry out that act, to the end, then it is far better to stop them than to ignore them and let some other group assist them..
I dont know Mike, reading your statements it almost seems you would prefer them to have succeeded, killing people and so on, as opposed to letting law enforcement try to protect its people..
Why would you want your friends, your family, or yourself put at mortal risk? is it because you think freedom is somehow better, he should have been free to kill people, and the FBI is wrong for trying to find and stop these people.
Who's side are you on mike ??
Its also funny, that TWO is "SO MANY", many is generally considered 3 or more, a couple, or a few would be a more accurate discription, but 'more than one' is not "SO MANY".
It again, is more like 'so few' of these types of cases.
And what does how many have to do with it, is there a quota ? if you find alot then how much is too much ?
Or is it that there are 'too many' people who are willing to acquire a bomb and blow people to death ?
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:22am
Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?That poor shark.
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:29am
Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?You are a damned idiot, Darryl. The issue isn't one way or the other, it's not the difference between "the FBI helped this guy" or "The plan worked".
The FBI could have kept their eyes on him and got the people who would have helped him as well as just him. They already were keeping their eyes on this guy, and catching a conspiracy nets more people willing to kill others.
They now have one guy who was too stupid to do anything on his own instead of the five others that had the ability and were willing to help.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:11am
Re: Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?Yes, 1 < 20 but 1 is also > 0. I gave up expecting competence from government entities a long time ago, so I'm pleasantly surprised when they manage any form of success.
Michael, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:38am
Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?"So if it had not been the FBI, then it would have been some other group.."
That's quite the statement. What crystal ball is proving that, had the FBI not provided the opportunity, a criminal element would have? Had it not been for the FBI, it may have actually been IMPOSSIBLE for the guy to commit the crime he is being accused of - that's a big problem. Catching a wants to commit a crime but can't does not seem like the best way to use our resources.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:50am
Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?The FBI keeps picking the low hanging fruit, and that's not what I expect of an intelligence agency. They should be using these dumb asses to get to the bigger players. I know that's a difficult task, but that's why they are the FBI. Goading some idiot into buying a fake bomb doesn't do a damn thing to stop terrorism. I stops one idiot stupid enough to buy a fake bomb from the FBI.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:07am
Re: Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?At least they're getting some fruit. It may not be as good as they should be doing but it's better than what you usually get from a bureaucracy.
Gabriel Tane (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:44am
Re: Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?Actually, they keep taping fruit to the tree, whistling innocently for a few seconds, and then grabbing it saying "Hey! Fruit!"
that_id (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:19am
Re: Re: Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?This is simpy the FBI trying to catch a little good press. Unfortunately, it forces the real enemy to spawn a craftier class new recruits every time they use these dumbed-down moves. It really is low-hanging fruit, sadly it is just laziness on our part due in no small part of our generation's need for instant results to everything.
Pseudonym, 11 Dec 2010 @ 5:11pm
Re: silly FBI, they should have refered him to Al Qaeda ! so if their bombs are fake ?I'm going to quote my previous comment yet again, because people really seem to not get why this is a problem.
There is a very simple test that anyone can use to see if they are suffering from a lack of rational perspective: Come up with an identical scenario where Islam and terrorism isn't involved, and see if the response still makes sense.
Suppose you took a poor, young, lonely, white American, who because of their socioeconomic circumstances and upbringing is at risk of leading a life of gang-related crime. Perhaps they've already expressed antagonism towards law enforcement, or are already using drugs (and thus are already technically doing illegal things).
You're in authority. Which of the following two general approaches sounds better to you?
Approach #1: You befriend them and give them a job, perhaps a trade. You encourage them into the respectable and legal workforce, and perhaps try to help them complete their education. If they're addicted to something, you help them get off it, so they don't mix with criminals any more. You give them a circle of peers of people who got out of bad situations so they have someone to talk with and lean on should that be necessary.
Approach #2: You befriend them, and secretly groom them into joining a fake criminal gang. You start by giving them small tasks which aren't necessarily criminal acts in and of themselves, provide them with an income which they understand is from illegal sources, and promise them more if they participate more fully. Then you stage a big crime, perhaps a bank robbery or a drug deal, and encourage this person to be involved. At this point, you spring the trap, arrest them and congratulate yourself that you've taken a dangerous person off the street.
Does anyone, anywhere, think that approach #2 is ever the right idea? If it were ever found to have happened, there would be hell to pay!
If you want to stop people ending up in organised crime groups, regardless of whether those groups are trying to sell meth or trying to blow up buildings, you should be doing everything you can to steer them away from those gangs. This should be a no-brainer but, as Lawrence Lessig would say, there are apparently no brains involved here.
Hell, it'd even make some kind of logic had they used the kid as bait to try to catch someone higher up the chain. I'd still feel sorry for the kid, but at least it would have been more-or-less productive work for a law enforcement agency.
The sort of people the FBI locates are probably the sort of impressionable, easily-swayed individuals who could be radicalised into committing some horrible act. But something is deeply wrong when it's the FBI doing the radicalising.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:14amThey had to make up for the last fabricated plot that they caught, which made them look bad, so their solution was to fabricate another plot and not get caught this time. Unfortunately, that failed too, so expect to see another fabricated plot in another attempt to make them look productive. Can't these people do anything right?
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:21amThe government is trying desperately to prove that terrorism is a real threat. Thankfully most people aren't buying it. Problem with this FBI tactic, is they used it in 1993, but gave them a REAL bomb and they actually bombed the world trade center, whoops.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:18am
Re:Silly AC. Someone with the desire to kill you is always a real threat. The threat from those that have been arrested recently may or may not have been imminent without FBI help but it was definitely real. Since you have no access to the minds of terrorist recruiters, the minds of those they would recruit, or even the FBI intelligence that lead them to target these individuals, your belief is based on very little except your own world view.
Greg, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:25am
there might be another motive hereI hate security theater, but there's something to be said for spreading fear and paranoia amongst potential extremists. The more they hear about FBI stings, the more they're likely to fear being caught, which may deter some of these wannabes from even talking about any violent fantasies they may have. Classic chilling effect, possibly? Strategy vs. tactics.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:30amThis just amazes me. The FBI leads these guys through a complete bomb plot even to the point of providing a fake bomb. So what if someone wants to blow up something. 99.9% of us couldn't do it without the FBI's help. Law enforcement in this country only succeeds with the sting operation to nab 'Bad Guys?' They are totally useless in prevention and it only criminals they can arrest are ones they collude with.
The latest one is to report break-ins online. No officer comes to the place of the crime and looks at the evidence. You can post it online and say anything. Get a police report to print out and voila, Insurance Fraud. Great crime protection. Do you feel safe? Only with my gun.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:25am
Re:Yes, AC, most of us could blow something up without the FBI's help. Most of us could also go down to our local Wal-Mart, buy several guns and a backpack full of ammo, and shoot up a bus station, mall, coffee shop, etc... The FBI finding those that actually have the desire and will to before-hand is about the only thing they can do.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:32amIf you're asking why the FBI has to wait until the suspect has a credible plan, ask yourself this:
Is thought crime?
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:06am
Re:"Is thought crime?"
Conspiracy to murder is.
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:26am
Re: Re:Not unless at least one affirmative action is taken to further the plan.
Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:35am
Re: Re: Re:Like, say, building a bomb?
The Mighty Buzzard (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:50am
Re: Re: Re: Re:Exactly like that. I was nit-picking. Mea Culpa.
Hyman Rosen, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:36am
Preventing attacksPreventing attacks is done probabilistically - you take various security measures and each one has some chance of making attack plans go awry, and with luck, a planned attack is foiled. This is a fine example - a wanna-be is removed from the action, and other potential attackers must deal with the possibility that everyone around them is an agent of authority rather than a helpful companion.
There is no evidence in the referenced article that the FBI is trying to make more out of this case than it is. In fact, they always emphasize in these cases that no one was ever in any danger. What they do say, as quoted in http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101005/ap_on_re_us/us_times_square_car_bomb, for example, is "We have to be concerned about homegrown terrorists given recent events. We're working as hard as we can to make sure we don't have another event like that." And in this case, that's what they've done.
weneedhelp (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:39am
rather than dealing with real threats.This should say something. If there were that many ppl wanting to blow shit up, shit would be blowing up. In a free and open society it is easy. The threats are minuscule. So the FBI needs to find fucktards to be patsies.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 9:52am
The goal explains the method.If they just wanted to inhibit people from plotting bombings, they could simply make a pass on the guy, explaining that they are being watched, and see how they respond before moving on to the next on your list of thousands, since they generally have no way to check whether they are being watched or not.
That would be a practical and cost effective way to shut down wannabes, or force more serious plotters underground. If they vanish after the pass, then you could escalate your investigation.
Since they pushing this as far as possible, the goal is to prosecute ANYONE, just so they appear to be having an impact. This is about appearance over effectiveness (again,) and that is bad.
Jay (profile), 9 Dec 2010 @ 10:06am
The FBI has nothing to doWith ICE running around on copyright, they can't pay for wiretaps, I guess a little bomb scare helps keep the lights on.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 11:45am
"The Shirky Principle"
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 12:30pmI am a former Marine and a republican and if you set me up with a high power rifle in sight of Obama I would put one right through YOUR heart.
Being a devils advocate, I would imagine that this person hit the FBI's radar screen, why was that? Did they just see some kid on the street and say, hey, lets see if we can set him up? The FBI probably had information that this kid was looking to do something bad, so they put their plan in place to see if he would bite. What happens if the FBI does nothing and then the kid walks into a mall or school and shoots it up and kills a bunch of people?
Would you condemn the FBI for doing nothing? Maybe the govt. finally learned its lesson after the Fort Hood shooting after not learning it after 9/11 and countless other attempts.
That being said, it would have been pretty funny if the guy had replaced the fake with a real bomb. I too would have enjoyed seeing the look on the agents faces, of course, I wouldn't want anyone hurt, but it would be funny.
john, 9 Dec 2010 @ 2:54pm
Re:Finding alienated clueless people with fantasies of being ( briefly) a big headline bang is pretty easy. Finding people who are clever enough to have a vague chance of being made real is much harder- The FBI is taking very low hanging fruit.
PS in Australia a solder of the crown that expressed a serious desire to assassinate the head of state would face criminal charges and definitely would be disowned by his mates as a traitor.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 6:12pm
Re:I am a former Marine and a republican and if you set me up with a high power rifle in sight of Obama I would put one right through YOUR heart.
Wonderful. Let me set this all up for you so I can arrest you for attempted murder.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Dec 2010 @ 3:29pmCompletely out of the blue I have been noticing that the colors of the icons for AC's may have to do with tracking the hour it is posted, not that is a bad thing just something I noticed and got curious about :)
canucky, 14 Dec 2010 @ 5:02pm
Sigh!This is all about keeping the American public scared. A scared population is an easily control population.
hotrod, 22 Feb 2011 @ 3:18am
Big Brother at it again"This is all about keeping the American public scared. A scared population is an easily control population."
Exactly. The people defending this abuse of authority and resources are probably the same goons that supported the Patriot Act, because it would "save lives."
When the FBI is done pissing around, and destroying troubled lives that just need a push in the positive direction, just so they can increase the arbitrary "threat level" and justify their inflated "homeland security" budget, maybe they'll take to doing something productive, like combat the organized gangs and thugs themselves.
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As we previously reported, the Grammy Award-winning crooner allegedly snatched a female fan's iPhone after she took a picture of him while he was sitting in his Bentley. The victim claims he grabbed the expensive device and told her, "B—h, you ain't going to put that on no website." Breezy then pulled up his window and drove off.
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Met Police boss Jimmy Cooper is playing down his side's Ryman Premier League chances next term based on the fact he is being outgunned in the transfer market.
The Imber Court chief saw wideman Howard Newton leave the club last week bound for Ryman Division One South Tooting & Mitcham United – managed by former Blue Craig Tanner.
Cooper is in the market for a replacement plus two others, but admits his best laid plans may be blown out the water by big spending rivals.
Rumours of some clubs shelling out £900-a-week for the division's top players have circulated this summer with Margate and new boss Terry Brown already pre-season title favourites based on their aggressive recruitment policy that has seen Kingstonian striker Ryan Moss move east.
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International Fuel Cells (IFC), South Windsor, Conn., will power the world's largest fuel-cell installation at the Connecticut Juvenile Training School in Middletown, Conn. Project plans call for IFC to deliver six PC25 fuel-cell units, which will provide primary power to the school. Each unit produces 200kW of electricity and 900,000 Btus of heat. The heat produced by the fuel cells will heat and cool the training school.
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