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admin, 31 Jan 2006 @ 8:59pm
lest we forgetThe fiber that they got on the cheap at the
expense of stockholders in firms such as GBLX
and MFNX. In the old days the crowd would have
strung them up by a rope .... im sure enough
strands of fiber would work just as well. Instead
people like Spitzer shake down Wall St and
other firms, not to give the money back, but to
fund their own office. Or worse, we end up with
Martha Stewart while investors have been fleeced
of countless billions and the management of those
companies walked and the ILCs walk away with the
Rick Gutleber (profile), 1 Feb 2006 @ 5:35am
Re: lest we forgetThere's fiber running through my back yard, but I can't get it.
shane, 1 Feb 2006 @ 7:29am
Re: lest we forgeta lot of the fibers that telco's use are to go between central offices... they run it all crazy places, or to slik sites where the fiber signal is turned to a copper signal and sent back to you in normal pairs...
Wizard Prang, 20 Jun 2006 @ 7:24am
What's Martha Stewart got to do with it?Unless I was mistaken she went to jail for lying to investigators... one thing that she has in common with President Clinton...
patrick, 31 Jan 2006 @ 9:22pm
this crapif they were paid the money the should deliver what they promise, this is straight up fraud , they govrement has a good case to go after these people, thats what they should do
Jonathan, 1 Feb 2006 @ 4:43am
Re: this crapIt's too bad they can't/won't. Keep in mind how long ATT managed to keep an accepted monopoly before they eventually (sort of) broke it up. The telcos can lie their way out of just about anything, and if they can't we still can't do much because everyone relies on them. Suing them would just mean a rate hike for everyone and/or loss of service. It's a sticky situation...
Rick Gutleber (profile), 1 Feb 2006 @ 5:34am
Re: this crapIt's kind of hard for the pot to call the kettle black.
DNINC, 31 Jan 2006 @ 9:25pm
Telco liesThis is why i use Vonage, and have been for 2 1/2 years now.. Vonage and bellsouth can kiss my @$$. and anyone not switch over to the future of telco which is "BROADBAND PHONE" is being ripped off!
Dan, 31 Jan 2006 @ 10:36pm
Re: Telco liesAgreed, except that I think you made a typo... I have Vonage too, and it is very nice. I like being able to call my family long-distance with no extra charges. And my fiancee is considered "long distance" by SBC (and it was very expensive), but now the call doesn't cost anything extra. Connection quality is excellent, too... out here, SBC has duplexed POTS lines, and the sound was awful.
llewdis, 31 Jan 2006 @ 11:59pm
Re: Telco liesI just cancelled my vonage after ~1 1/2 yrs. I am now completely mobile. I use a vonage router at work and take it home so that I can work there as well. Not sure that we should ever believe what a telco promises. Very similar to the nirvana promises by BPL I should think. What we really need is a more jaundices and sceptical public that forces their ISP to provide what they promise. I regularly try to monitor the pipe that I am getting from my provider to verify that I am getting some semblance of actual service. Usually, they are not far off, but occaisionally the service is abysmal and I call and complain.
Perhaps I am just a squeaky wheel, but my connection has not gone down while I have been actively using it for over 6mo.
7mb down/ 786up
NetPhreak, 1 Feb 2006 @ 8:11pm
Re: Telco liesFrom what I read about the "experts'" assessment of generation "Y," you are not a "squeaky wheel." You are just not as demanding of the technology. The (nearly) latest generation; those brought up in an age than technology was making leaps and bounds, expect that it will keep going at that pace. --(We're all working on that, but it can't last forever!)
I'm not saying they are wrong.
I understand where you are coming from. People that know how far we have come in the last 25 years are astounded by the incredible advances that have been made. I remember being so excited about paying $200 for 16MB of RAM or my brand new 14.4kbs modem - wow it was so fast! Those days were quickly consumed by advances in technology - and forces of the open market.
The issue, however, that the original post implies is that (along the lines of demand for what we "believe we are owed" is) the increases of technology have NOT been delivered to all of us, as expected.
I'm happy with my connection: wireless, 8MB up, ~1MB down - a hell of a lot better than a 14.4kbps that prevented me from using my phone! BUT, I too am interested in getting what I pay for. Lately has been an EXTREMELY PROFITABLE time for Telcos and if they made a commitment to do something, and where paid to do so... it should be so.
Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2014 @ 7:46pm
Re: Telco liesHow stupid can you be. Broadband is Telco.
shane, 1 Feb 2006 @ 4:14am
waitbellsouth in baton rouge right now is installing fiber within 2000 feet of every home and running a 12 pair copper line to every home, then in galvez/gonzalas, the two citys just south of baton rouge eatel is 3/4 finished running two strands to every home. period.
down here they are doing their jobs.
George, 1 Feb 2006 @ 5:51am
Re: waitwhat's your information source? I live in work 2 miles South of LSU and can't get DSL service due to outdated DSLAM equipment at Staring Lane and the poor quality of copper running Highland Rd. I'd like to believe your information but reality tells me this is years away. BS Atlanta exec's just reported that VDSL won't be happening in 2006.
shane, 1 Feb 2006 @ 7:35am
Re: waitthat is true a lot of the copper in the ground is outdated, but they are starting with bellsouth with the schools first. all the public schools are getting a 24 strand fiber to them now. if you see the white grady crawford trucks around town they are doing the work for bell south. they are working on schools around broadmore and sherwood now in my work area... i locate underground utilities/ laonecall. more than likely they don't have enough strands to spare extras for your dsl connection. it would probably mean your feeder cable is maxed out and they would have to run a new one. the money's just not in it for bell to run a new cable just for your or a couple, you would have to have a large amount of people wanting it with zeal to persuade them to runa a new cable.
Arley, 1 Dec 2006 @ 2:06pm
Re: Re: waitIn a few months there will be wireless ISP service to your area.
Re: waitbellsouth in baton rouge right now is installing fiber within 2000 feet of every home and running a 12 pair copper line to every home, then in galvez/gonzalas, the two citys just south of baton rouge eatel is 3/4 finished running two strands to every home. period.
Yeah, but it's slower, asymmetrical, and more expensive than promised. Not to mention that it's not open for others to offer service on.
That's NOT what they promised.
exablaze, 1 Feb 2006 @ 11:33am
Re: waitmy parents (in maryland) have FiOS now. they love it. way fast. and given that their only reasonable alternative (read: NOT a T1 from speakeasy) is comcast, verizon is superior by far.
shane, 1 Feb 2006 @ 9:50pm
Re: waitvery right... but just a glimmer of hope... it'll be that much closer to actually being there...
btw a side fact with nothing to do with tech. the state just approved barber brothers construction to 6 lane airline highway from florida to bluebonnet.
Rick Rock, 1 Feb 2006 @ 4:50am
Vonage RocksVerizon does not rock, "It's Stinks"
itsadelayworld, 1 Feb 2006 @ 5:36am
Keep waiting,Keep waiting for domestic gasoline production, keep waiting for fiber to the home, keep waiting for lots of stuff which, when you get it finally.. its diluted so much, its almost meaningless. And yet, Verizon has their slogan making progress every day...
By the year some of the things the President talked about could even take place, like with domestic alternative fuels, most of us will be too old to drive, Huh, go figure.
FYI, fttx deployment on the docsis (cablemodem side is lackluster as well) No deployment is above 30megabits, industry-wide.
Static, 1 Feb 2006 @ 5:40am
WTFhow do they get away with this. and yet no one seems to really care?
what the hell is this world coming too?
harbinger, 1 Feb 2006 @ 9:27am
No Subject GivenUnfortunately, Cable in my area is oversold and they are refusing to split the node. Its slow kicks you off at peak times and is just plain bad.
Covad offers services in my area up to 6.0/768 for as low as $110/month, but you still wind up sending money to the ILEC if you go that way. Surewest terminated their last fiber run in my neighborhood (in fact right across the street from me) but then decided that they were not going to allow anyone at all onto that run (so why do the run in the first place?) Satellite is a no go due to latency and the city wi-fi is going to be exactly 1.5 miles too short to reach me (once they hit that particular neighborhood of the city).
So basicly, for me to get reliable broadband services, I have to put up with a middleman (covad) who is forced to give money to the ILEC (for whom I have a burning white hot hatred) or....... I can go with crappy/no services at all.
Where exactly is this type of situation benificial to consumers and why would any group of consumers have any faith in any of the companies involved when they have had to endure a situation like this for years and years?
haggie, 1 Feb 2006 @ 11:12am
Real responsibility...should be put on the POLITICIANS (federal, state, and local) that signed these sweetheart deals in exchange for campaign contributions and then refuse to hold the municipal monopolies to even the vague terms of the sweetheart deals in exchange for additional campaign contributions come re-election time.
Don't bitch about ATT, SBC, Comcast, etc. They are doing what makes sense for a for-profit company. Promise the most, deliver the least.
If our elected officials don't hold their feet to the fire, we are screwed because, as these are monopolies, we cannot take our money to a competitor. Your elected officials are the only people that can break the cycle of lie and under-deliver, but that means THEY have to stop the same lies and under-delivering too.
TelcoWatcher, 1 Feb 2006 @ 4:38pm
Re: Real responsibility...You are so right "promise the most and deliver the least" is so unfortunately accurate. Yet remember that these "for-profit" companies were monopolists blessed for decades with guaranteed rate of return (11%) tariffs and prices.
Please note that it is not "municipal monopolies" which have allowed the kind of sweetheart deals and games the RBOCs have played. These companies are regulated at the state and federal levels - not the local level - and from my experience, are on very cosy terms with many of the federal authorities who regulate them before they go to work for them.
10-15 years ago, T=there were promises of updraded networks and fast connections and a whole new world of technology "if only" the FCC would grant "video-dial-tone". Then there was "if only" the "Open Video System (OVS)rule, but that was not good enough for telcos, so they wanted - and got - a wipeout of the 1996 regulations for opening their networks to new entrants at wholesale rates. (don't forget these are companies who built their plant as state-sactioned carrier-of-last-resort monopolists with that guaranteed rates of return or price-cap reguation, plus subsidies from the universal service fund (USF).
Meanwhile, SBC sold the video franchises owned by Ameritech when it bought Ameritech (incidentally reducing by another one the number of "baby bells", having already done it to Pacific Bell).
And cancelled video trials in Texas and California, including Cerritos where cable service was actually being offered.
After numerous un-kept promises about upgrading their networks "if only", and lots of chances to do video (which they - and especially SBC - blew off more than once) the newest whines are
1) others should not use our networks unless they pay for high speeds (even tho' we the customers are already paying the telcos to connect to google or amazon or yahoo or whomever at certain speeds).
2) we would like to provide video (part of the triple play) honest-to-goodness-this-time-we-mean-it BUT, we want to choose where we offer service.
In SBC's case that mean 90% of "high value" customers and 5% of "low value" customers (see their 11-12-04 Investor Update document for verification). Local Govt types are actively opposing that kind of cherry-picking and red-lining. Local cable tv franchises reqquire that everyone be served.....and any new video providers should have to do the same thing....otherwise it will be Kellor TX everywhere.....cablerates went down in the neighborhoods where Verizon deployed video....but stayed the same in areas without choice....so you will find citizens once again subsidizing cut throat price wars wherever there is not a "choice" of more than one wire-line video.
I submit that this is NOT the way to get a wired nation.....and federal/state policies which allow anything less than universal deployment of upgraded plant across the carrier of last resort footprint is just a give-away to companies that have already taken plenty of our money to spend on lobbyists and lawsuits and self-intersted rules.
But unless individual citizens starts speaking out loudly to your electeds (as happened with media ownership) , the telco juggernaut will roll over the public interest again.....the breadth of their astroturf groups and facile half-truths and enourmous lobbying machine/$$$ is breath-taking.
Anonymous Coward, 1 Feb 2006 @ 4:49pm
Re: Real responsibility...Our elected officials are doing what makes sense for them also: keeping the corporations that put them in office happy. And as long as people keep voting for the candidates that put on the biggest, most expensive, "best" campaign shows, things will continue as they are.
Matt Sherwood, 22 Feb 2006 @ 10:42pm
Re: Real responsibility...kudos to "anonymous coward"..correct "global" understand..hey, weren't you the guy/gal I lauded before?
Wizard Prang, 20 Jun 2006 @ 7:29am
But I see your point, but......last time I looked it was the VOTERS that put them in office.
lil'bit, 1 Feb 2006 @ 5:20pm
Re: Real responsibility...You are 100% correct! Too bad no one else has noticed! I found your reply as I was scanning the replies prior to forwarding the whole to the state AG (California). Bill Locklear (spelling?) is almost as good as the NY AG about filing consumer protection lawsuits.
Denny, 1 Feb 2006 @ 11:26am
Didnt knowAnd just a few years ago we were drooling at the thought of 56k!! A few more years back and 1400 baud was uber sexy! I have SBC and they just increased the regular DSL speed to 768 down. I drool at the thought of fiber, no more need for hosting companies! Pop your fiber in, plug in your terabyte of storage and you're set. But I wasn't aware of this telco subject. I am now... and yea it really sucks that they took our money for a ride. How lame
VZ employee, 2 Feb 2006 @ 7:30am
Very slanted article
Although I would agree that VZ and the rest of the telcos are no angels, I think this article is very misleading (not completely false, but not telling the whole story).
First of all, all the major telcos (VZ, AT&T, and Bell South) are all currently building a fiber optic network. In Verizon's case, we have already built fiber and have done all the back office work to sell the finished product to over 3 Million homes in the US. There are two main reasons why you dont have fiber today (if you are in a VZ territory).
1) local governments are trying to screw all the telcos and charge ridiculous franchise fees and/or make the telcos pay for unrelated local government projects. As a result VZ refuses to build in a locality without a guarantee that it can sell its products. If franchises were approved at the state or national level, and not EVERY SINGLE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THE COUNTRY a lot more areas would have fiber. Texas recently passed a state-wide franchise, watch how fast fiber is deployed there.
2) You might already have fiber available to you, but have never heard of it. VZ is not doing major advertisement of the fiber optic product today because it is only set up for a small fraction of its total customers. It doesnt make sense to do a national campaign for a product you cannot sell yet because you would just upset your customers.
As far as the "promises not kept" I will make these comments. Should VZ continue to offer an open network available to competitors when in the past the government let them use our network at rates less than what it costs us to maintain? Why should we spend BILLIONS to build a fiber network and then allow our competitors to use it for less than what it costs? Please keep in mind we are a FOR-PROFIT company you cant expect us to not do what is in our best interest.
As far as speeds go, VZ's fiber network is capable of speeds up to 100Mbps per second far above the 45Mbps the author quoted. At this time however we are only offering speeds up to a max of 30MB up/5MB down, which is far more than you would need to do anything imaginable on the internet today.
As Far as pricing goes, the cheapest Fiber starts at $34.95 for 5Mbps up/2Mbps down plus taxes, set up fees etc.
To learn the truth about VZ's fiber product (called Verizon FIOS) feel free to go the website and get the FACTS! www.verizonfios.com
Re: Very slanted articleAnd now, your somewhat slanted response. :)
First of all, all the major telcos (VZ, AT&T, and Bell South) are all currently building a fiber optic network.
Indeed, as we noted. But, they're doing so in a different way than promised. Remember, your employer specifically held New Jersey hostage, saying they wouldn't build fiber unless they weren't required to open the lines -- something they had previously promised to get concessions from the gov't.
local governments are trying to screw all the telcos and charge ridiculous franchise fees and/or make the telcos pay for unrelated local government projects.
Indeed, though this is a SEPARATE issue. We've already written in the past about the importance of getting rid of pointless franchise fees. So we're on your side for that... but the franchise issue is just for TV, and totally unrelated to the rest of this argument.
Should VZ continue to offer an open network available to competitors when in the past the government let them use our network at rates less than what it costs us to maintain?
Nice spin! It's completely false, but it certainly sounds good. We've pointed to documents in the past that have shown that the real cost of each copper line was somewhere around a penny... and VZ was demanding $15 or so for it. Hard to square that with the claim they were losing money.
The point of forcing the networks to be open is that it's a natural monopoly (which is also the point of franchise agreements, but we agree those shouldn't be locally managed). There isn't any competition -- meaning you guys get to rip people off. Having an open network spurs competition.
As far as speeds go, VZ's fiber network is capable of speeds up to 100Mbps per second far above the 45Mbps the author quoted. At this time however we are only offering speeds up to a max of 30MB up/5MB down, which is far more than you would need to do anything imaginable on the internet today.
And you know how much speed we need? The amazing thing about the internet is that, for all the speed we get, new services and apps appear that make use of them. So don't tell us how much we need. Give us the speeds you promised, and then see what happens. The folks in Asia seem pretty happy with their higher speeds -- much of which they're actually using.
As Far as pricing goes, the cheapest Fiber starts at $34.95 for 5Mbps up/2Mbps down plus taxes, set up fees etc.
Again, different than what was promised.
Nice response, but the facts don't support you...
Ben, 3 Feb 2006 @ 12:03pm
Fios vs. cableI dunno, I've got Verizon Fios and it's every bit as fast as they claim. It was my old cable modem service that never delivered nearly the speeds that THEY claimed.
Re: Fios vs. cableI dunno, I've got Verizon Fios and it's every bit as fast as they claim.
Uh. Yeah, every bit as fast as they claim now. However, (1) it's nowhere near as fast as they promised and (2) it's asymmetrical, rather than symetrical (as promised). Also, the original promise was to allow other service providers to offer services, which they have not done.
Michael A. Collins, 3 Feb 2006 @ 12:31pm
You've Already Paid $2,000 For A Fiber ConnectionWhere is the New York State Attorney General on this? Where is the State PSC on this? How come my Time Warner Cable triple play has a NYC tax on it for the Universal Fund? I thought that the Federal Court struck down this type of tax on digital information for VoIP and internet service? Why am I still paying? Are these seperate issues?
Big Bell, 17 Mar 2006 @ 2:23pm
Why You Make Lie?Hey why you make lies about these fine companies? they are backbones of america! without them you wouldn't be on this internet right now! you ungrateful jerk! it is unpatriotic to attack our american businesses! you leftwing scum!
Michael Warner, 25 Apr 2006 @ 4:41pm
Re: Why You Make Lie?CEO's the "backbones of america" as you so claim are spineless and greedy and don't hold to their promises. Steel is a backbone of amierica, taxpayers are a backbone of america. Small businesses are a backbone of america, not these huge corporations you give verbal support to, borderlining on fellatio. The only way these huge corporations are what they are today is because people blindly buy into them, not those who actually founded these companies. Those who founded them just saw a huge income in them.
Gizmo, 17 May 2006 @ 7:32am
New ZealandI am from new zealand and have "broadband" *cough* bullsh!t *cough*
I am getting a 2 Mbit connection (soon to be upgraded to 3.5)
This is NOT fast, Totally lagged, I am sure if I sent the same message by post (aka snail mail) it would get there quicker.
I play Red Alert 2 online, it runs better on my 56k dialup connection.
We are setting up our own wireless service provider, seperate to the internet, but joined to the internet for those that pay the extra for it.
We are trying to make this lag free, we currently get a ping of 15ms from one side of our town to the other, just working on lowering that figure and expanding the network.
Broadband in New Zealand isn't worth the money to set it up, they should have used tax payers money for something better, like laying more fiber optics between each exchange instead of satalite and copper cables :O
Irritated Telco Customer, 7 Jun 2006 @ 6:41pm
Interesting InfoSo glad I came accross this thread. I found several posts especially TelcoWatchers and Mike's comments to our Verizon rep very insightful. I have been absolutely baffled at the ridiculous progress and claims made by local telco companies in my area and frankly am quite fed up with excuses on why service is unavailable, overpriced, and under powered. I by no means consider myself an expert on the politics of this issue but I'm so glad to see I'm not alone in my frustration and irritation with companies like Verizon and Comcast, I've been waiting years for a high speed symmetric connection at a reasonable price, now I see why I don't have it.
J.R., 1 Nov 2006 @ 9:31pm
Japanese Racing Ahead @ Light SpeedHaving read through this string, others like it and relating articles I am irate. I have been reading alot of similar stuff for the last few months. I have been stationed in Sasebo, Japan on the Southern Island of Kyushu for the last three years. For the last two years I have been receiving internet service via a company called BBIQ, run by the local power company, which has service very similar to this one: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/en/tepco.html run by another power company in Tokyo. These are start-up tele-comms. It is true they had a solid financial base prior to entering this arena, but those fiber lines did not exist three years ago. Heck they aren't even complaining about construction fee's they just say "if you want it, it will cost this much to expand the system to your home". And people (Including myself) pay it. They just run the fiber along their pre-existing power lines. :-D For those of you who do not know the yen rate it is approximately 1,000 yen to $10.00. I am paying around $60.00 U.S. for a 100Mbps Symmetrical Fiber line into my residential home with no maximum data amount per month (Such as VZ's 5G limit, which I have surpassed on many occasions with my current set-up) and I have a phone line with it as well. VZ may be providing the Fiber but as Mike said they do not know nor seem to understand what we need, as this article illustrates: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thecheckout/2006/10/bandwidth_bandit.html To put it in terms your kids (or you) might understand better: I have had 8 people playing various MMORPG games at maximum connection speeds at the same time with little to no noticeable lag. Games such as Star Wars Galaxies, City of Heroes, Ever crack (quest) and Planetside. A few of us were also downloading various files via "bit torrent" applications. I am preparing to come back to the States next year and have been searching for somewhere, ANYWHERE, that can match this and I can't find it. To know that American people have been paying for this service through taxes for years and have not seen anything near the promises made makes me sick. We advanced so much of this technology, we have been a major driving force behind it for so long and now we can hardly even use it compared to other countries!? This is just one more example of the apparent stupidity running rampant in our nation's government. What makes it worse is we are the people that put our "leaders" in office. Things like this make me want to not come home.
J.R., 1 Nov 2006 @ 9:32pm
ApologiesApologies for the lack of spacing.
Tim, 22 Mar 2007 @ 3:33pm
US Braodband is a national disgrace.Honestly by now we should have a symmetric 1GBs connection to every home in this country. The telcos are failing us and making a fortune doing it.
Horatius83, 27 Mar 2007 @ 12:54am
Japanese lagging behindI wish I were in Kyushu then, we have a T1 line here in Hikone (1 hour by JR from Kyoto) and it's absolute crap, network timeouts and incredibly slow. I have no idea how this place got it's high-tech reputation. So taxes paid for a fiber-optic network that never materialized, and I assume these companies never paid the money back, so isn't that fraud?
Douglas Rea, 14 Aug 2008 @ 10:41pm
Mobile TrekMOBILE TREK (Because In Space No One Can Hear You Dial), is a humorous, zany, off-the-wall look at Sci-Fi and call centres and is currently available in e-book form from www.ereadable.com. For anyone who ever had to phone a "call centre", or worked in a call centre, and thought they were connected to some spacecraft in the distant future. USS Cellforce 1 is an intergalactic mobile phone call centre, in which Captain Pilchard battles the call centre's of the Krapulans, defeating them and forming a communications alliance. From there they battle the Bornagain and defeat them by crippling their international roaming rights. They go on to negotiate with the Phoebians over their ability to transport any object via a mobile phone to anywhere in the universe, which they call 8G. Through all this Captain Pilchard dreams of retiring to his ferret farm in Edinburgh.
"Anything resembling anything living…..isn't"
Kind Regards,
Douglas Rea.
jm, 22 Feb 2015 @ 2:19pmIm no friend of cable or internet companies, but is there any proof of this? If I was going to pay someone 200B to do something, wouldn't there be a contract? My internet is 20Mbs, it's plenty fast for everything I do and I can watch flawless netflix on a fraction of that. What are people doing that they can use 1 GB internet? A bigger pipe will only move more data in the same time frame, functions like surfing and email will see no improvement plus most download sites are not going to let large numbers of users download at 1GB because it will take them down, I dont think people understand what they are asking for. And then there is the billing vs speed, 15 years ago I paid $50 per month for internet that was 1Mb, now I pay $75 for 20 Mb. I have many years experience in large network/computer performance, all of the talking points I hear seem skewed, can you provide more substantiating information other than pointing me at a book? I cant say this is all wrong, it's the talking points that seem like a bunch of angry people that hate their ISP's.
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I am researching the family of Georgios Anathansiou who came to America in the mid 1800's as a young sailor on a merchant ship.
He settled in Pensacola, Escambia, Florida and lived there until his death in 1909. He came from the Greek Island of Scopelos in the Agean Sea. He changed his name to George Bell and was a wholesale grocer in Pensacola. He married Mary Josephine Mcduffie and they
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making your own hat is so satisfying, you'll wonder why you never made one before. easy as pie!
- 1/2 yard hat fabric
- 1/2 yard lining fabric
- 1/4 yard fusible interfacing
- button
- sewing machine/needle & thread
- (optional) ham for pressing
1. lay out the pattern pieces
2. pin the pattern pieces to your fabric
3. cut out all the pieces (in hat & lining fabric) and interfacing
4. on the side pieces, mark the edge closest to the front pieces (this edge is longer and helps with the shape of the hat)
5. fuse interfacing to the peak pieces
6. with right sides together, sew the back pieces together at 1/2″
7. with right sides together, sew the front pieces together at 1/2″. then sew the side pieces to the front piece
8. press the seams open now (it will be harder to press later, when the hat is assembled)
9. sew the back piece to the sides
at this point, you can trim some of the bulk off the top.
10. repeat steps 6-9 for the lining fabric.
11. with right sides together, sew the peak pieces together at 1/4″
turn the peak right side out and press it flat.
12. you should now have 3 pieces that look like this
13. (optional) topstitch the peak at 1/4″ for decoration.
14. with right sides together, pin the peak to the hat
15. lay the hat and peak into the lining (which is inside out)
16. beginning at centre back, sew the hat to the lining at 1/4″, leaving a 2-3″ gap
17. turn the hat right side out
18. press the edge of the hat flat
(please excuse the dirty laundry in the background)
19. blindstitch or machine stitch the opening closed.
20. attach a button to the top of the hat, sewing through both hat & lining (so that the lining doesn't fall down)
21. ooooh
* another way of finishing the hat is to leave the raw edges of the hat and lining exposed
and stitch a grosgrain ribbon over them.


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I love Greek food, especially gyros. There's something so yummy about the perfectly spiced meat combined with cool, refreshing tzatziki sauce. I had never made these at home before, but with the slow cooker, they are easy and delicious! I used beef, but you could use lamb or chicken, or any meat you like.
Slow-cooked gyros
3 large steaks, about 2 1/2 pounds (I used boneless arm steak)
1/3 cup olive oil
2 Tbsp. lemon juice
4 tsp. minced garlic
1 1/2 tsp. dried oregano
1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. pepper
Slice your steak into thin strips, or have your butcher slice it for you. I threw my steaks in the freezer for a few hours and sliced them with my trusty chef's knife. This makes cutting meat so much easier!
Line your slow cooker with foil or a liner. Arrange beef strips on the bottom. Mix the other ingredients together and pour over the beef. Toss gently.
Cover and cook on low 6 to 7 hours, until the meat is thoroughly cooked and tender. Serve on pita bread with lettuce, cucumber slices, onions, and tzatziki sauce.
Light tzatziki sauce
8 oz. fat-free plain Greek yogurt (or use regular plain yogurt, strained to remove liquid)
1 small cucumber, chopped
1 clove garlic
1 tsp. lemon juice
1 1/2 Tbsp. fresh or dried dill, chopped
1 Tbsp. fresh or dried chives, chopped
Salt and pepper to taste
Combine all ingredients and refrigerate a few hours before serving.


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It's easy to see the experience of buying or selling a home as an adversarial one: you vs. the people on the other side of the bargaining table, with one chess move by your opponent potentially costing you thousands of dollars. In my experience, though, the average real estate consumer's biggest potential enemy is him or herself. Buyers and sellers routinely take approaches, make moves and make omissions that cost themselves much more than anything the other side could ever do. The first step of any cure is diagnosis. Here are some clues to detecting the costliest cases of real estate self-sabotage so you can stop them in their tracks, get out of your own way and get back to the business of buying or selling your home: 1. Hesitating. I'm a big proponent of buying or selling - making any real estate move, really - on whatever time frame makes sense for your life, your family and your finances, rather than trying to time the market. That said, once you've done the math, saved your pennies, prepped your property and otherwise decided to move forward on your home buying or selling plan of action, hesitation can cost you.
- Buyers who hesitate to make an offer can lose out on a home entirely - or can wait so long another offer comes in, forcing them to offer more to beat the other folks out.
- Sellers who hesitate to take an offer can lose out on a buyer, when a new listing comes on the market that catches their eye or better meets their needs.
- Mortgage borrowers who wait too long to lock their interest rates can end up paying more when rates creep up instead of down.
And here's one more for buyers: hesitating to move forward after you get into contract can also cost you untold stress and deal complications if it snowballs into a situation where you run late removing contingencies - having to ask the seller repeatedly for extensions can cost you negotiation goodwill that you could otherwise have leveraged into repairs or closing cost credits. I'd say 90% of hesitation is a result of fear, and fear most often arises when
- we second-guess our life decisions connected to the real estate transaction,
- we don't understand or are intimidated by a subject, or
- we feel powerless to make a wise decision because we don't know our options all the factors we should be taking into account.
Accordingly, you can eliminate hesitation-related self-sabotage by:
- working through the life and financial decisions that are intertwined with your real estate matters completely and on paper before you start the process, so you can revisit them if and when you're tempted to hesitate
- getting as educated as possible in advance about your local market dynamics and neighborhood home values, as well as the home buying or selling process in general, and
- diving head first into the discomfort and uncertainty that everyone experiences when they make these major decisions, sitting down with your agent and other pros involved to get every question you have answered in a timely manner so you can move forward, rather than putting decisions off and "sleeping on it" night after night.
2. Not taking expert advice. Have you ever taken an indecisive friend out to dinner, watched them hem and haw over the menu, ask the server what their favorite dish is and then order something totally different than the server's choice? That same phenomenon takes place every day in real estate. Many smart buyers and sellers invest much time and energy into agent-finding, asking around for referrals, checking agents out online, interviewing them and even calling around to check references, only to completely disregard their advice! If you have a reputable, competent agent, you might be surprised at how often they can save you money with simple nuggets of experience-laden advice specific to a given scenario, like:
- act fast
- list it lower
- offer less/more
- counteroffer for more
- be aggressive
- take the bank's terms
- don't buy that house
- get one more inspection/bid
- don't remove contingencies yet/remove contingencies now
- ask for X, Y or Z repair, price reduction, credit, free rent-back, furniture, or longer time to close.
Experienced, local agents have a strong sense for some of the precise things that are so tricky for a buyer or seller to wrap their heads around, like pricing and negotiations. You should definitely ask your agent for data and the logical rationale behind their advice, and should keep asking until you understand and are comfortable with the decision that you make (whether or not it agrees with their recommendations). By no means am I suggesting that you blindly take every piece of advice you are given by any agent, trusted or not. That said, if you're having a hard time getting satisfaction or making progress on your home buying or selling aims and your typical reaction to advice from your agent is to reject it, at least consider that being more receptive to that advice might actually help you get out of your own way. And if you have a truly hard time trusting your agent's advice for whatever reason, consider that you might simply not yet have found the right agent for you. 3. Overpricing or lowballing. It might run contrary to conventional wisdom, the idea that asking for more money or offering less can be acts of self-sabotage, but ignoring the damage that these acts can do to your real estate plans is unwise. In real estate, pricing is just more nuanced than that. It's not the case that you can simply pick your price, ignoring the financial complexities involved and the psychologies of the folks on the other side, and expect for good things to magically happen. Those nuances include these truths: setting a list-price that is significantly above what other, similar homes have recently sold for will not only not get you that price, it poses the potential to turn buyers off, keep them from coming to see your home, make your place sit on the market longer than it needs to and ultimately, it can result in low or no offers. At the extreme, overpricing can force you to cut the price, sometimes dramatically, to activate buyers who have learned to disregard the obviously overpriced listing in their online house hunt search results. And buyers beware: making lowball offers significantly below the fair market value of target homes has a similar impact. Sellers ignore them or counter them up higher or they get beat out (often repeatedly) by more realistic buyers. I have seen the tendency to lowball cost buyers thousands over the months they are trying to get a fantasy-land deal, in terms of home price increases or money that same buyer ends up throwing at their eventual home, out of desperation and frustration. Don't let your emotions be the ruler of your pricing or offer decisions. Motivation is one factor to consider, but the data on recent, comparable sales should be given much more weight, to keep the threat of price-related self-sabotage in check. 4. Cutting corners. Getting a home ready for sale is a marathon endeavor, not a sprint - especially if you've been living there for a number of years. Same goes for working on your credit, savings and financial plans in advance of making your first buy: smart buyers-to-be start years in advance. So, it's tempting to get near the end of your preparation action plan, lose patience and start cutting corners on staging, property preparation, even vetting your own financials and family wants and needs. Don't submit to temptation - well, don't submit without the input of your agent and loan officer. Depending on your situation, there are some corners that might be okay to cut - the ones that will have very little impact on the eventual outcome of your real estate endeavors. But give the pros you 'hired' the opportunity to give you their input before you unilaterally skip steps on your original action plan. If you tell your agent you need to cut your property preparation budget down by a bit, they can help you decide where the corners you cut will have the least impact on your home's overall presentation to buyers. If your loan officer says that paying a particular credit account down by $4,000 instead of $5,000 won't really do too much to your qualification status, you might be fine kickstarting your house hunt a few months before you had planned to. Unfortunately, it's all too common to see homes where the sellers have poured cash into great, fundamental repairs and neglected some essential, inexpensive cosmetic items - or buyers who have fallen just a tad short on cash or credit and end up scrambling to boost one or both under pressure. Bring your professional team into the conversation before you cut any corners, and ask them to help you understand and minimize any consequences of cutting costs. 5. Failing to read documents all the way through. Hundreds of your signatures will be requested and required during the process of buying or selling a home. But perhaps the single-most expensive way real estate consumers stab themselves in the back is by failing to read and understand nthe documents they are given - from contracts to disclosures to inspection reports and even closing/loan documents - all the way through. Many a condo owner has been surprised to learn that they are being assessed a hefty special bill for common area repairs, when that "surprise" was predictable from a few of the hundred pages of HOA disclosures they received before closing escrow. Seller disclosures can be cryptic and boring, but also often contain red flags to guide buyers and their inspectors to the real areas of concern. (Their guiding power is nil if you don't read them, though.) And the same goes for sellers - your agent should read and help you understand offer(s), buyer's inspection reports and requests for repairs or credits, estimated closing statements and everything else, but ultimately you are responsible for reading and understanding all of these influential, binding documents before you sign them. So read them. And don't be afraid to ask questions or insist on clarifications and corrections, if indicated. If you were quoted a certain interest rate or monthly payment, make sure that matches up to what you see in your closing docs - or that you understand and accept the reasons why it doesn't, before you sign. This sounds obvious, but you'd be surprised at the major lender-borrower disputes and buyer-seller legal dramas that have arisen over the years because of errors in loan or closing documents that could have been detected and resolved simply, easily and inexpensively before closing. Don't be one of them.ALL: How have you sabotaged yourself - or seen others do the same - in the process of buying or selling a home?All: You should follow Trulia and Tara on Facebook!
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A cease-fire deal to end seven weeks of fighting in Sadr City could provide the clearest test yet of just how much sway the anti-American Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has over armed militants operating inside his sprawling bastion of support in Baghdad.
The truce, accepted by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Saturday after being negotiated between the United Iraqi Alliance of ruling Shiite political parties and representatives of the Mr. Sadr's movement, is supposed to end the daily fighting that has claimed more than 1,000 lives in the vast Shiite slum.
The agreement allows government security forces to enter any part of Sadr City to arrest anyone with heavy weapons such as mortars and rocket launchers. Sadr has said his Mahdi Army militia is a defensive necessity, but that it does not use heavy weapons.
The truce was hastily reached as Mr. Maliki's government announced a new offensive in Mosul against forces affiliated with Al Qaeda in Iraq. Maliki has said since January that he would take the fight against Al Qaeda to the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, believed to be the group's last urban stronghold in Iraq. Some Iraqi government officials have suggested that Maliki wanted the battle with Shiite militias quieted before the Mosul offensive.
The Sadr City agreement does not call for the disarming or disbanding of the Mahdi Army, which was Maliki's demand that touched off fighting between his forces and the militia in late March. But it does call on Mahdi Army fighters to keep their weapons out of public view. All explosives planted in the streets of Sadr City are to be removed and the launching of rockets and mortars from the area – scores of which hit Iraqi and US government buildings in the Green Zone over recent weeks – is to stop.
Those attacks on the Green Zone drew the US military into the Sadr City fight, though US officials, including US Commander in Iraq Gen. David Petraeus, had encouraged Maliki to find a negotiated solution to the differences with Sadr. At the same time, US military officials have increasingly blamed the violence in Sadr City on "criminals," "gangs," and "special groups" trained and armed by Iran, and less on JAM, the acronym for the Sadr militia's Arabic name.
Several Iraqi officials said Iran was a party to the effort to stop the fighting in Sadr City, which Iranian officials have called warfare against Iraqi Shiites. If true, the Iranian involvement would follow a pattern set when Iranian officials played a key role in ending fighting between the Mahdi Army and Iraqi and US forces last month in the southern city of Basra.
And it would underscore Iran's growing political influence in Iraq.
On Sunday US military officials said negotiations on details of a truce were continuing between the government and Sadr representatives. But they said military operations in Sadr City had been "limited" as of Saturday night, based on expectations of an agreement.
Calling it "premature" to speak of a concluded accord, Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, spokesman for the Multi-National Forces in Iraq, said the US is "acting in support of the government of Iraq as they move ahead with discussions with elements of the Sadr movement." But he said that, as of Saturday, "We are limiting our operations, just as the Iraqi security forces are."
Admiral Driscoll did not comment on any agreement that would allow the Mahdi Army to keep its weapons, saying, "We have to wait to see the details." An armed Sadr militia could be problematic for the US, since Sadr has said his forces are authorized to act in "resistance" to the US presence.
It remains to be seen how successful the deal will be at ending the fighting, which assistance organizations warned last week was leading to a humanitarian crisis. Militants in the slum have demonstrated varying degrees of loyalty to Sadr, who is thought to be in Iran. If fighting and mortar-launching continue despite the truce, it could be a sign that Sadr has lost control of large factions within his militia.
In any case, the cease-fire agreement harbors the seeds of a continuing political conflict because it does not address the differences between the government and Sadr supporters over a political movement maintaining a militia.
Members of the Sadrist movement say the government's campaign against the Mahdi Army is a distraction from Maliki's true motivations: to stop the Sadrists' participation in provincial elections set for October, and to weaken Iraq's "nationalist forces" at a time when the government is negotiating a set of agreements on a long-term US military presence in Iraq.
"We are the last, the only resistance now to the occupation of Iraq," says Nassar al-Rubaie, leader of the Sadrist bloc in Iraq's parliament, the largest group in the 270-member body. "We want an Iraq free of all outside control, and an end to Iraqis fighting Iraqis."
Mr. Rubaie says Maliki launched what he calls "the siege of Sadr City" to weaken the Sadrists politically by creating a crisis and trying to turn their supporters against them. "He knows that forces loyal to our beliefs would sweep to power, so he's acting now to try to break our movement before these provincial elections."
The Sadrists say their principle objective remains a sovereign Iraq that is free from the "vicious circle" they say has made their country the battlefield in the American war on terror. "The Americans are here fighting Al Qaeda and terrorism and to make America more secure, while Al Qaeda is here to fight the infidels," says Liqaa al-Yaseen, a member of the Sadrist parliamentary bloc. "The result is terror for the Iraqi people caught in the middle of this war."
Dr. Yaseen says the only negotiation Iraq should have with the US is one setting a timetable for withdrawal. "Maliki wants to empty the field of any nationalist movement that opposes these long-term agreements."
The cleric's partisans in government are quick to point out what they say is the hypocrisy of Maliki's offensive to disarm Shiite militias.
"If Maliki truly intends to have no armed groups outside the Army and police, then why do we have the Sahwa?" Rubaie asks, referring to the "Sons of Iraq," the armed Sunni patrols created by the US military to help fight Al Qaeda-affiliated extremists.
"What about those militias that simply entered the Army or police, like Badr," he adds, referring to the militia, now largely absorbed into the Iraqi security forces, of Iraq's largest Shiite political party.
What really motivates Maliki, say the Sadrists, is his fear that with their anti-American message they will make large gains in the next round of elections.
But that public support may be less overwhelming than they assume if the growing impatience with conditions in Sadr City are any indication. Indeed, Iraqi officials say that it was the ire of Sadr City residents that prompted Sadr representatives to reach the cease-fire agreement.
"We had Mahdi fighters shooting near our house, and then the Americans would come and shoot at them," says Abbas Alibi, a Sadr City street vendor who took his wife and four children to a camp of tents set up for displaced Sadr City residents at a Baghdad stadium. "We are not involved on either side of this fight, but it made staying in our home impossible."
Mr. Alibi says he finally decided to make his move when the government began encouraging residents of some parts of Sadr City to evacuate. "We thought surely that meant a big fight was coming."
Another father of a family sheltered in a nearby tent was more adamant. "Only government forces should be allowed to carry weapons, period," says the father of five, who requested anonymity because he has already been a target of Mahdi Army miltitants in his neighborhood. "All of the people of Sadr City are feeling that way now, so of course the militia doesn't like it."
Alibi says it will take more than the announcement of an agreement to get him to move his family home – despite the poor conditions in the temporary camp. "I'll have to go back first," he says, "and see for myself that the fighting really has stopped."


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For the record I want to explain how to get 5.2 (as soon its out) can be installed successfully on a macbook 5.2 .
I take it one knows about refit, if not RTFM.
The first thing todo when booting the LiveDVD is edit the boot parameters and append: maxcpus=1 . Otherwise the kernel will panic (acpi issue).
Alternatively you can just disable all acpi but this will not do any good for day2day usage of the macbook.
Ok we start installer and we create 1 partition /dev/sda3 I used ext4, works just fine.
In the installer you need to check a box for advanced grub options and
select to NOT install it in MBR but in /dev/sda3 instead.
Personally I think this step actually is a bit buggy because after a
succesfull installation and syncing partition tables in refit you will
get a message that there is no operating system found if you try to
boot the linux partition. This is because it seems that grub2 actually
didn't install there at all.
To fix this I booted live again to manually install grub here are the
excact steps todo it:
open a terminal, become root
– mkdir sabayon && mount /dev/sda3 sabayon
– mount -o bind /proc sabayon/proc
– chroot sabayon
– grub2-install /dev/sda3 –force (I guess its this step where it went /dev/null during installation process)
– equo update && equo install grub (this will auto generate the shiny
sabayon grub2 theme and detect the kernels)
– exit
Now reboot and there it is. Keep in mind that you still might need to append the maxcpus=1 flag to your line, to perm edit that line you can have a look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg


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Yesterday a minor update to the Silverlight 2 runtime was released. You may see terms of "GDR 1" floating around. That's pretty much an internal term at Microsoft referred to as "general distribution release" – yeah, I know we have a lot of random terms. Think of it just as an incremental update. If you are curious for Silverlight's entire release history, you can view that here.
So what's in it? Well, nothing earth shattering if you were expecting feature updates. There were some needed fixes based on customer feedback that we included in this update (which is version 2.0.40115.0). Basically I would bucket it into a simple list for you:
That's about it…no new controls, nothing suddenly going to make you amazed and shocked. But it was a needed release to fix these issues.
So what should you do? Depends.
If you are a consumer…
You really shouldn't need to do anything unless you are specifically experiencing one of the issues above. Web developers using Silverlight and needing their user's to have this update will update their site and let you know. There isn't a huge need to rush out as an end-user and download the update. Besides, if you have it configured to automatically update, then in due time you'll get the update through that mechanism and won't have to do anything. If you absolutely want to be on top of things, then feel free to grab the latest updated runtime by visiting the download link.
If you are a developer…
If you are directly affected by the changes above then you should update your application. There are really two things you need to do:
For the latter note this is a simple change. Update your "MinRuntimeVersion" attribute in your hosting page/content to ensure that end users have the latest runtime version for your application. Again, you should only really need/want to do this proactively if you (or your users) are directly affected by the updates in this release! Here's how you'd do it.
NOTE: Even though you update the developer runtime the Visual Studio project templates are not updated to set the default runtime version to the updated version so each new Silverlight project using those templates will still reference minRuntimeVersion="2.0.31005.0" – if you want to change that you can modify the template.
NOTE: Even though you update the developer runtime the Visual Studio project templates are not updated to set the default runtime version to the updated version so each new Silverlight project using those templates will still reference minRuntimeVersion="2.0.31005.0" – if you want to change that you can modify the template.
UPDATE: How to modify the default value of the template
I've received some errors myself after changing this, so while it sounded like a good idea :-), I can't recommend altering this reg value to the updated version – if I find out why, I'll post here.
I got some questions about exactly how you would get the default web templates to change the generated test pages to emit the updated version number. Since these are pages in a web project and not the Silverlight project, it isn't easily found. In fact, that value gets pulled from a registry setting. The setting is at (removing the Wow6432Node if you are not on 64-bit Windows):
1: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Microsoft SDKs\Silverlight\v2.0\ReferenceAssemblies]
2: "SLRuntimeInstallVersion"="2.0.40115.0"
and you need to change the value to match what you want that to be. Again, this is not a required step at all.
As a reminder, messing with your registry can be dangerous if you have no idea what you are doing. Backup your reg keys, don't blame me if something goes wrong :-).
If you are using the ASP.NET Silverlight control you'd modify the MinimumVersion and AutoUpgrade attributes:
1: <asp:Silverlight ID="Xaml1" AutoUpgrade="true" runat="server"
2: Source="~/ClientBin/SilverlightApplication3.xap"
3: MinimumVersion="2.0.40115.0" Width="100%" Height="100%" />
If you are using the <object> tag instantiation you'd modify the minRuntimeVersion and autoUpgrade attributes in the <object> tag for your Silverlight application:
1: <param name="minRuntimeVersion" value="2.0.40115.0" />
2: <param name="autoUpgrade" value="true" />
If you are using Silverlight.js to create the object you'd modify the version attribute when passing it in to the properties parameter of the createObject function (sample):
1: Silverlight.createObject(
2: "ClientBin/SilverlightApplication1.xap", // source
3: silverlightControlHost, // parent element
4: "slPlugin", // id for generated object element
5: {
6: width: "100%", height: "100%", background: "white",
7: version:"2.0.40115.0"
8: },
9: { onError: onSLError, onLoad: onSLLoad },
10: "param1=value1,param2=value2",
11: "context" // context helper for onLoad handler.
12: );
That's it! Hope this helps. The team is diligently working on Silverlight 3!


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1."We're all over the place."
The number of medical spas — hybrids of medical clinics and day spas — in the U.S. is up more than fourfold since 2007, from around 800 in 2007 to 4,500 today, according to the International Medical Spa Association. Why? For one, technology continues to improve, allowing for better results from less invasive cosmetic procedures. What's more, older people remaining in the workforce sometimes want to look younger than their years, but don't want to take weeks off their job to recover from a face-lift, says Dr. Timothy C. Flynn, president of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery Association. So they're turning to medical spas to smooth their wrinkles and erase their age spots.
There's another factor behind med spas' rise. Soaring health-care costs have caused insurers to reduce the rates at which they reimburse doctors for services rendered to patients. As doctors' revenue at their regular practices gets squeezed, some physicians are signing on with medical spas to try to make up the difference in their top lines, says Dr. Roy Kim, a plastic surgeon in San Francisco who isn't affiliated with a medical spa.


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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Draw your own conclusions: Researchers suggest in a small new study that art therapy makes kids less anxious about their condition.
The results provide "encouraging initial data" that art therapy can help improve the emotional health of chronically ill children, the authors write in the May issue of the Journal of Allergy & Clinical Immunology.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, an estimated 7 million American children, or nearly one in 10, have asthma. The breathing disorder is a leading cause of school absences.
For children, "simply thinking about past asthma attacks can bring on feelings of anxiety," the authors write, and anxiety can either precipitate an episode or worsen an otherwise mild one.
In art therapy, children work with crayons, paints, and other materials, guided by a therapist to express feelings that they may have trouble communicating in words.
"It's not about painting pretty pictures," Anya Beebe, an art therapist at the National Jewish Health in Denver who led the study, told Reuters Health. "It's about helping people go deeper, and using art as a process to express and release their feelings."
Although art therapy has become more common in hospitals to help children cope with the distress of their illness and hospital stays, researchers haven't yet rigorously studied whether it works in asthma.
Beebe and colleagues enrolled 22 children between the ages of 7 and 14 with persistent asthma. The children were students at a school on the campus of National Jewish Health in Denver; 11 were randomly assigned to have art therapy along with their usual asthma treatments for 7 weeks, and the others had usual asthma treatment but not art therapy.
The children were tested using several standardized measures for coping skills, anxiety, worry, self-concept, and quality of life before the first therapy session, at the end of the last session and six months later.
At the end of seven weeks, the art therapy group had lower anxiety and higher quality-of-life and self-concept scores than the group that didn't have art therapy. The improvements persisted, although they were not as pronounced, six months later.
Calling the results "striking," Beebe and her colleagues write that "the use of art therapy for children with severe, chronic asthma is clearly of benefit."
Beebe said the results were gratifying but not surprising. "Kids tend to feel better after doing art therapy," she said.
The researchers did not study whether less anxiety would decrease the number of asthma episodes, nor decrease the amount of medications children need. But "physical health and psychological health are often linked, and we do see that link in children with asthma," Beebe said.
The cost of art therapy varies depending on the institution, and some hospitals offer it free. According to the American Association of Art Therapy, it is difficult to put an exact price tag on it because it may be billed as part of other services.
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UDPATE: The Richmond Fed Manufacturing index tumbled to -7 this month, well below expectations of a positive 5 reading.
Manufacturing activity in the central Atlantic region pulled back in October after improving somewhat last month, according to the Richmond Fed's latest survey. The seasonally adjusted index of overall activity was pushed lower as all broad indicators of activity — shipments, new orders and employment — were in negative territory. Other indicators also suggested additional softness. Capacity utilization turned negative, while backlogs remained negative but improved from its September reading. Moreover, the gauge for delivery times changed little, while raw materials inventories grew at a slightly quicker pace, and growth in finished goods edged lower.
Looking forward, assessments of business prospects for the next six months were less optimistic in October. Contacts at more firms anticipated that new orders, backlogs, capacity utilization, and vendor lead-times will grow more slowly than anticipated a month ago.
Survey assessments of current prices revealed that growth in both raw materials and finished goods prices grew at a somewhat quicker rate than a month ago. Over the next six months, respondents expected growth in both raw materials and finished goods prices to grow at a somewhat faster pace than they had anticipated a month earlier.
Current Activity
In October, the seasonally adjusted composite index of manufacturing activity — our broadest measure of manufacturing — lost eleven points to −7 from September's reading of 4. Among the index's components, shipments fell eighteen points to −9, new orders moved down thirteen points to finish at −6, and the jobs index held steady at −5.
Most other indicators also suggested weaker activity. The index for capacity utilization turned negative, losing seven points to −4, and the backlogs of orders gained six points to end at −3. Additionally, the delivery times index subtracted one point to −2, while our gauges for inventories were mixed in October. The raw materials inventory index rose six points to finish at 23, while the finished goods index fell three points to 15.
Labor market activity changed little from the modest contraction a month ago at Fifth District factories. The manufacturing employment index held steady at −5, while the average workweek indicator turned positive, gaining eight points to 3. Moreover, the wage index rose four points to 10.
In the current survey, contacts were generally less optimistic about their business prospects than reported a month ago. The index of expected shipments was virtually unchanged at 21, while the new orders index declined seven points to finish at 19. Backlogs reversed its ten-point gain realized in September to end at 6, and capacity utilization inched down four points to 19. Vendor lead-time moved down six points to 7, and readings for planned capital expenditures lost two points to 0.
District manufacturers' hiring plans were somewhat more optimistic in October. The expected manufacturing employment index gained seven points to finish at 8, while the average workweek indicator changed little, losing one point to 10. Moreover, the index of expected wages rose four points to end at 25.
District manufacturers reported that raw materials prices increased at an average annual rate of 3.21 percent, notably higher than September's reading of 1.42 percent. Finished goods prices rose at a 1.99 percent pace, also somewhat higher than September's reading of 0.44 percent.
Looking forward, respondents on average expected that the prices they pay will advance at a 2.55 percent pace, markedly above September's reading of 1.33 percent. Contacts looked for finished goods prices to increase at a 1.51 percent annual rate, also slightly above last month's 1.27 percent pace.
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The Republican lieutenant governor nomination of outspoken conservative black minister E.W. Jackson, who has compared Planned Parenthood to the Ku Klux Klan, has alarmed black elected leaders in Virginia, all of them Democrats.
Richmond Mayor Dwight Jones, also an African-American pastor, bristled at online videos of Jackson drawing analogies to the Klan and to his assertion that the Democratic Party is a latter-day slave master to black voters.
Said Jones, ``Let me be clear right now: nothing is like slavery.''
Bill Euille, the black mayor of Alexandria, voiced amazement that such statements could even be an issue in 2013.
But former Del. Winsome Sears, an evangelical businesswoman and the first black Republican woman elected to the Virginia House, says some black Christians share Jackson's beliefs but don't use his rhetoric.


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Thought his deserved a place on the CT board as this is not the first time such a thing has occurred. Building 7 of the World Trade Complex mysteriously burned and collapsed in a control demolition and it just so happened that within this building at the time were investigations on the SEC, Osama Bin Laden and various terrorist as well as a CIA operation center and various clandestine operations going on. Right after collapsing it was announced that all the information was lost and there WAS NO BACK UP...yeah right. Are your bones telling you something is up?
No Criminal Charges Sought Over C.I.A. Tapes
By MARK MAZZETTI and CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: November 9, 2010
WASHINGTON Central Intelligence Agency officials will not face criminal charges for the destruction of dozens of videotapes depicting the brutal interrogation of terrorism suspects, the Justice Department said Tuesday.
C.I.A., via Associated Press
Jose A. Rodriguez
After a closely watched investigation of nearly three years, the decision by a special federal prosecutor is the latest example of Justice Department officials declining to seek criminal penalties for some of the controversial episodes in the C.I.A.s now defunct detention and interrogation program. The destruction of the tapes, in particular, was seen as so striking that the Bush administration itself launched the special investigation after the action was publicly disclosed.
Government officials said Tuesday that the special prosecutor, John H. Durham, could still decide to charge current and former C.I.A. officers and lawyers with making false statements to a grand jury over the course of the investigation, which began in January 2008.
In addition, the prosecutor has yet to close another aspect of his investigation, focused on the death or abuse of detainees in the hands of C.I.A. officers who used tactics that had not been approved by the Justice Department.
The investigation is ongoing, said Tom Carson, a spokesman for Mr. Durham.
Justice Department officials provided no details of Mr. Durhams decision. However, one impediment to the case was that the officials who destroyed the tapes claimed to have gotten approvals from C.I.A. lawyers. Similar claims have also posed obstacles to investigating the Bush administrations use of brutal interrogations and secret prisons in the years immediately following the Sept. 11 attacks.
The key figure in the tape destruction incident was Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., the former head of the agencys clandestine service. In November 2005, he ordered his staff to destroy tapes of the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the first two detainees held in secret overseas prisons. The tapes had been kept in a safe in the agencys station in Thailand, the country in which the interrogations were conducted in 2002.
According to current and former government officials, Mr. Rodriguez told his superiors that two lawyers inside the C.I.A.s clandestine service, Robert Eatinger and Steven Hermes, had signed off on his order to destroy the tapes.
Internal C.I.A. e-mails, released earlier this year in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union, showed that Mr. Rodriguez had argued that the heat agency officials would take over destroying the tapes is nothing compared to what it would be if the tapes ever got into the public domain.
Mr. Rodriguez told another top C.I.A. official that if the images were disclosed out of context, they would make us look terrible; it would be devastating to us, an e-mail said. The tapes showed hours of interrogation of the two detainees, including the infliction of a technique called waterboarding that simulates drowning.
The e-mails showed that the tapes were destroyed on the morning of Nov. 9, 2005. Officials announced the decision on Tuesday because the five-year statute of limitations for filing criminal charges relating to the tapes destruction had expired.
The agency had withheld the fact that the tapes existed from both the federal courts and the Sept. 11 Commission, which had asked the agency for records of the interrogations. The existence and subsequent destruction of the tapes was first revealed by The New York Times in December 2007.
Robert S. Bennett, Mr. Rodriguezs attorney, said in an interview that he was pleased that the Justice Department did the right thing.
Mr. Rodriguez is a hero and a patriot, who simply wanted to protect his people and his country, Mr. Bennett said.
Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, said in a statement that the C.I.A. was pleased with the decision not to bring charges against agency officers involved in destroying the tapes, and that the agency would continue to cooperate with other aspects of the Justice Departments investigation. But Anthony Romero, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, condemned Mr. Durhams failure to file charges for obstruction of justice. He noted that the tapes were pertinent to litigation pending at the time that the agency destroyed them, including an A.C.L.U. Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking documents and images related to interrogations.
Mr. Durham, a career federal prosecutor based in Connecticut, was appointed in January 2008 by Attorney General Michael Mukasey to investigate whether destroying the tapes was a crime. In August 2009, the new attorney general, Eric H. Holder Jr., expanded Mr. Durhams mandate to include looking into whether crimes had been committed in the interrogation program, an investigation that remains open.
At the time, Mr. Holder cited a 2004 report by the C.I.A. inspector general that discussed several instances in which detainees died during interrogations by agency officials in Iraq and Afghanistan. It also documented the use of unauthorized techniques like mock executions, threats to family members and inflicting waterboarding more often than the department had approved.
When he expanded Mr. Durhams mandate, Mr. Holder also stressed that the Justice Department would not prosecute anyone who acted in good faith and within the scope of the legal guidance given by the Office of Legal Counsel regarding the interrogation of detainees.
Mr. Holder was referring to once secret Justice Department memorandums asserting that certain interrogation techniques, like stripping prisoners naked, keeping them awake for long periods, slamming them into walls and subjecting them to waterboarding, would not violate antitorture laws.
Many legal scholars have contended that the memorandums gave a false reading of the law, and other officials in the Bush-era Justice Department later rescinded the legal guidance. But because the Justice Department had initially signed off on the techniques, it is considered essentially impossible for the department to prosecute officials who relied on the memorandums.
In his newly released memoir, former President George W. Bush writes that he personally authorized the C.I.A. to use the techniques in 2002, after obtaining assurances from government lawyers that the interrogation program would be lawful.
I have been troubled by the blowback against the intelligence community and Justice Department for their role in the surveillance and interrogation programs, Mr. Bush wrote.
Our intelligence officers carried out their orders with skill and courage, and they deserve our gratitude for protecting our nation. Legal officials in my administration did their best to resolve complex issues in a time of extraordinary danger to our country. Their successors are entitled to disagree with their conclusions. But criminalizing differences of legal opinion would set a terrible precedent for our democracy.
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The local Grayton community was astir a few weeks ago with the reappearance of an old familiar furry face: a black bear that has long been known to frequent the area.
The bear surfaces only occasionally, but appears frequently enough that most locals call her Pam � from a distance, of course.
When Pam was seen rummaging through Dumpsters at a Grayton shopping center July 18, her picture, along with her cub, began showing up on the Internet as onlookers began to gather.
However, Pam was just searching for a free meal for herself and her cub, and an audience was not what she desired.
Pam and her cub retreated up a tree, where their pictures continued to be snapped and posted online.
"This is not a good situation," said Stan Kirkland, a public information coordinator for Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. "The best thing for bears is to stay in the woods. That keeps the bear out of harm�s way. If you see a bear, we recommend as quickly as possible back off and leave them alone and they will go their way."
But since that day, the situation seems to have gone from bad to worse.
Local bear impacts
Anita Page of the South Walton Community Council reported �some sadness� on the group�s Facebook page Aug. 12: �There have been several bears in the Point Washington State Forest lately including a male and a mom and two cubs. Last night a small bear was hit by a car close to the intersection of 30A and 283. Witnesses believe it was one of the cubs. Please keep a special eye out for our animal residents at night while you're driving � for your safety and theirs. The bears are active eating berries and moving about.�
Kirklandconfirmed the incident and said the cub was injured so badly it had to be euthanized. And incidents like this aren�t uncommon, Kirkland said, as more than 300 bears were killed on Florida roadways in 2012.
A couple of weeks prior, Shannon Wallace, who lives in Santa Rosa Beach, posted an account of a close encounter with a bear near Sugar Road. "So I'm squatting down in the driveway working on my Jeep and in the corner of my eye I see what I think is a dog or cat in the distance. When I turn and look again there is an adult black bear coming straight for me in a four legged gallop. The bear was chest high on all fours and weighed 600 to 700 pounds. I did not budge and he ran between me and my house within about 4 feet. I don�t think he even saw me. The bear stood up in the back of my neighbor�s yard and he was about 7-feet tall. Yea, I got lucky and needed no coffee for the rest of the morning."
Kirkland said Florida has never had a documented bear attack, nor has our surrounding states.
"There has never been a predatory attack," he said. "They aren't a threat to people and if you leave them alone, they will go back where they came from."
However, they have been known to kill goats, pigs, chickens, and occasionally, a dog.
"That's why it is not a good idea to have them in neighborhoods," said Kirkland.
The bear facts: "They were here first"
The bear population in the state of Florida is estimated to be between 2,500 and 3,000, and that number is on the rise.
"Twenty-five years ago, we were picking up about 100 bears a year; now we are picking up about 200 to 250 a year that have become nuisances," said Kirkland. "That's not a perfect indicator, but we know the population is increasing due to the number of calls and complaints that are up dramatically."
According to FWC reports, in 2002 in Florida's Northwest region, which extends from Escambia to Jefferson County, FWC received a total of 79 calls about bears. In 2012, the calls went up to 1,671.
In this first six months of 2004, Okaloosa County had 45 calls and Walton County had one. In 2012 there were 36 calls from Walton and 327 from Okaloosa.
�These are significant increases,� Kirkland says as he acknowledges that black bears are native to Florida.
"We are just trying to figure out how do we live and co-exist with them. They were here first," he said.
There was a relative absence of bears in this area in the early 1970s, with an estimated 500 bears, based on the best available information, and the black bear was placed on the threatened list. Due to their prolific increase, they are no longer on the list.
"They have increased statewide," said Kirkland, "and we are starting to see them north of 98 in Milton and Navarre. And they are expanding their range south of 98 in Navarre."
In fact, on a recent weekend, FWC staff responded to an incident in Santa Rosa County where a bear had gotten south of 98. U.S. Highway 98 had to be shut down as an officer darted the bear to immobilize and remove it to Eglin.
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As a general rule, the FWC does not relocate bears.
"There is no good place to put them. There is increased mortality when they are moved due to being in unfamiliar territory or encountering other bears that are unfriendly, or they tend to return to their original habitat. They tend to come right back to their territory. We have seen them travel hundreds of miles and be back to their original territory in two or three days," he said. "So, they are not moved often."
Kirkland tells of a beekeeper in the Point Washington area that had a nuisance bear, which was moved, but it soon returned.
Any bear that is handled in a nuisance situation, the FWC tags.
As for a solution to solving the problem of nuisance bears, Kirkland said the FWC is trying to get businesses to contract with waste providers to make it an option to bear-proof garbage cans. He said they cost more in areas where they are available, but they do work.
Secondly, there are bear-proof Dumpsters that are available to bigger businesses.
"As bears have increased they have become very astute at getting an easy meal," said Kirkland. "That's bad on several fronts as it brings them in close proximity to people..."


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