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Supermicro SYS-5017A-EF Intel Atom Centerton 1U Server
The Supermicro 5017A-EF is going to be a server that you hear a lot about over the next few months. Its predecessors, based on the Intel Atom D510 and D525 were extremely popular platforms for low power appliances such as low end dedicated web servers, pfsense appliances, proxy server and low power NAS applications. The new Supermicro 5017A-EF uses the Intel Centerton SoC, specifically the Intel Atom S1260 and promises to lower power consumption. Let's take a look at what makes up the Supermicro 5017A-EF.
Test Configuration
Supermicro originally sent this test unit with a 1TB Western Digital RE4 drive and 2GB of memory. To make a generation-on-generation comparison, we outfit the test system with 8GB of RAM and a SSD. We did grab a few numbers with the 1TB WD RE4 also as this is a typical configuration.
- 1U Barebones: Supermicro SYS-5017A-EF
- Included motherboard: Supermicro X9SBAA-F
- Included CPU: Intel Atom S1260 "Centerton" SoC
- Memory: 8GB Kingston Low-Power ECC 1333MHz DDR3L SODIMM
- Hard Drive/ SSD: WD RE4 1TB or Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
Hopefully this will represent a typical configuration as deployed.
The Supermicro SYS-5017A-EF
The front of the Supermicro SYS-5017A-EF is rather unassuming. There is ample ventailation and standard power/ reset buttons and LEDs.
Inside the Supermicro 5017A-EF is a X9SBAA-F motherboard. With the Intel Atom S1260 Centerton SoC, the mITX motherboard is still packed with components.
Another new feature with the Supermicro X9SBAA-F is a single SODIMM slot. Since this is an Intel Atom S1260 Centerton SoC, it supports an ECC SODIMM. Supermicro provided a 2GB Micron unit however we added a 8GB Kingston Low power ECC SODIMM to maintain parity with our 8GB Intel Atom D525 version. Here we see three benefits: ECC, a single SODIMM and lower power SODIMMs. The last two add another dimension of lower power versus just the Intel Atom S1260 Centerton SoC.
Supermicro decided to use a Marvell 88SE9230 6.0gbps SATA III controller capable of supporting the four SATA ports onboard. While some may be wondering why an ICH9R was not used like last generation, here is an interesting fact: The ICH9R has a 4.3w TDP while the Marvell 88SE9230 consumes ~1w. Another interesting point is that that controller supports Marvell HyperDuo which is an automated SSD + HD storage tiering solution. More on this in a future piece.
The Supermicro 5017A-EF has one feature that is significantly ahead of its predecessor, it includes a new Intel i350-AM2 dual port network controller (2.8w TDP). This change has more ECC than the previous generation's dual Intel 82574L controllers (0.727w TDP each) and new features like on-chip QoS.
Another major improvement is that the Supermicro 5017A-EF now has a dedicated IPMI port. This allows one to have the Supermicro 5017A-EF management port on a separate physical network.
Expansion is handled via a legacy PCI slot. With the riser, the chassis supports a full height PCI card. Our sense is that this slot will go largely unused at this point. On the other hand an Intel Pro/1000 GT does add another gigabit port to the mix if needed.
In terms of storage, the Supermicro 5017A-EF has spots for dual 3.5" storage and our review sample came with a 1TB WD RE4 drive. Drives are secured by their bottom mounting points. Likewise, there are mounting points for 2.5" drives including SSDs.
The power supply for the unit is a 200w 80+ Gold unit. The PSU can easily power the Intel Atom S1260 as well as a PCI expansion card and two 7,200rpm 3.5" drives. The Gold rating is a major new feature as it will increase efficiency over previous versions. Here are the power consumption figures. Let's say they are so good, the measurements were taken multiple times.
Power consumption of the unit is awesome. For our power testing we use an Extech 380803 True RMS power analyzer. The Extech is a really nice unit that even records usage over time.With the original Western Digital RE4 1TB drive, we saw some significantly higher power spikes during the spin-up of the 7,200rpm 3.5" drive. In fact, the drive spin up takes more power than the SSD based system at 100% CPU load.
With the SSD, we had awesome power consumption characteristics. Since the SYS_5017A-EF has a dedicated IPMI port, the experience is similar to other Supermicro servers that use the American Megatrends MegaRAC management solution.
We highly recommend Supermicro "F" servers that indicate onboard IPMI as this does make management much easier.
Overall, the Supermicro 5017A-EF appears to be a winner in the segment. Power consumption is awesome! We are going to deep dive into the included Supermicro X9SBAA-F, the Intel Atom S1260 Centerton SoC and setting up appliances with this system in the near future. Overall, the new Supermicro/ Intel platform is a substantial improvement over the previous generation Intel Atom D525 part. At $474 MSRP for a single unit, and given the power consumption profile of the server, this is certainly something that is well suited to a network appliance, low cost and low power file sharing appliance or simple web/ mail server.
February 27, 2013 at 5:52 am
Thinks you are first one with these. Intel and Supermicro did great job. We use the D525 as low power CIFS but this look better.
February 27, 2013 at 8:22 am
If anyone has found some simple benchmarks for the S1200 series CPUs, it would be great to see them. Interested in a low power ZFS NAS application.
February 27, 2013 at 9:31 am
Awesome, thanks! At this point I don't have especially high hopes for this over the last gen D525 after reading some initial thoughts from other sources. But, we could be surprised by the actual data.
February 27, 2013 at 8:22 am
I could see using one or two of these as VPN gateways into our management network. That power consumption plus the fact you can run Linux and/or Windows on it and store disk images on it.
February 27, 2013 at 9:24 am
This box could be much more than just a firewall if SM would just utilize the pci-e x8 on chip.
February 27, 2013 at 9:43 am
That is definitely a great point, not having access to PCI-e sas/sata controllers is going to put a limitation on using these in a NAS situation. Perhaps supermicro will have a different mobo config with a couple PCI-e slots.
February 27, 2013 at 11:18 pm
I estimate there is max 2 PCI-e lanes free with the Supermicro config. The Atom S1200 PCI-e can be configured as 2x2x2x2x, 2x2x4x, 4x4x, or 8x.
2x or 4x to Intel i350-AM2 (The i350 is a 4x PCI-e IC)
2x(IC is 1x but using 2x because of SoC limitation) to Renesas uPD720201
2x to Marvell 88SE9230A board with an LSI2008 and network would be interesting.
February 28, 2013 at 2:25 am
Good find, though doesn't really help SM much, at this price one can get a G2020, some cheap motherboard and ram, together with 16 PCI-e lanes, 4 ram slots, CPU graphics.
You don't need ECC for firewalls so what is the point getting the Atom that is probably something like 1/3 of the performance of the G2020, just to save a few bucks per month by saving 15w?
Supermicro is getting there but this isn't it, Broadwell isn't that far away.
February 27, 2013 at 10:07 am
Love the IPMI port and wish there were more Ethernet ports for firewall and other services.
Good review! -
February 28, 2013 at 12:25 pm
Any thoughts on how this (5017a-EF) compares to the 5017a-EP?
Looks to be virtually the same, except N2800 Atom versus S1260. No ECC support is an obvious comparison… but I'm interested in overall system power consumption and price.
February 28, 2013 at 3:07 pm
The 5017A-EP is pretty different if you look at the specs. Different SATA, uses dual 82574L's, only a 1.86GHz Atom, no IPMI, and has a different GPU with HDMI output options. I think that one is more HTPC oriented whereas the 5017A-EF is for a server appliance.
March 3, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Stronger CPU/NIC/SATA are the main features distinguishing -EF from -EP.
EF is better suitable for Entry Level Servers and/or high C/P NAS, with a more balanced Mother Board (X9BAA) architecture.
S1260 is quire different from (superior…) N2800, i350 gives better performance over 574L especially on virtualization (if used), while SE9230 offloads RAID computing from CPU…
March 1, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Very quiet. Only the PSU fan and this PSU fan is more quiet than the previous version's.
March 3, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Power consumption chart has wrong title in image? Also values in numbers would be awesome. Have you tried power consumption with pico-psu?
I just wish this had 6 sata ports or pci-e expansion 🙁
March 3, 2013 at 7:14 pm
12-16w. Haven't tried the PicoPSU because I'm currently working on another project with the system 🙂
August 10, 2014 at 5:15 am
I'm using the same board with a 80W PicoPSU in an even smaller case (MC500 from Logic Supply) with one SSD system disk and 2 2.5″ 1TB WD REDs for data and 8GB ECC RAM…
As for the noise – I NTC-throttled the included 50mm case fan (below 2000rpm@idle; around 2700rpm@max heat) – only audible when close up.
This setup uses about 15W-17W under normal conditions (family home server: mail, file, proxy, multi media on SMP Debian, CPU governor set to "ondemand").
During the initial configuration phase (stability and thermal hardening) I ran mprime in torture mode and it did not surpass the 22W mark (simple wattmeter on the on the 230V socket, all disks powered up).
My goal was a SoHo solution running 24/7 at below 20W – this one nailed it 😉
March 3, 2013 at 9:01 pm
9230 has 4 x SATA III (6Gb/s), not 3.0gbs…
"Supermicro decided to use a Marvell 88SE9230 3.0gbps SATA II controller capable of supporting the four SATA ports onboard"
April 2, 2013 at 12:42 pm
What kind of CPU temperatures can one expect on this board (X9SBAA-F)?
I've just bought it myself. From BIOS I can see that the temperature in my system quickly climb to 80 deg Celsius (after cold boot). This does not seem normal to me. -
April 4, 2013 at 7:30 am
Yes it is.
But can this kind of temperature be normal when just idling in the BIOS "Hardware
Health Configuration"?If anyone else has this board I would like to hear what temperatures your systems idle at in BIOS.
May 5, 2013 at 8:26 am
Is anyone using Windows Server 2012 on this? For some reason I'm getting high CPU usage by SYSTEM process when copying/moving files. I'm interested if anyone is experiencing this. I'm also interested what drivers you use. Feel free to email me at tomuxaz [AT] gmail [DOT] com;
May 22, 2013 at 7:27 am
There's really no point to this product. It's too expensive. You can get a 5017C-LF with an i3-2120T for less, and its like 5 times faster
May 9, 2013 at 7:48 am
Hi Thomas,
I have tried to get Windows 2012 to run on this but so far, it's a bust. It installs fine but it bluescreens constantly. I have 2 units and they both do it.
My Supermicro dealer has been unable to resolve this.
May 9, 2013 at 8:00 am
Rodney – here's a quick trick – install it on another machine, then transfer the dive if you have that issue. I have seen that happen on Xeon E3 and E5 platforms as well as AMD platforms since the Windows 2012 release.
May 10, 2013 at 12:55 am
Hi Rodney,
what kind of BSODs are those? I getting ones as well (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, MEMORY_MANAGEMENT, BSOD_BAD_POOL_HEADER), but I though it's because of faulty memory module (Memtest reports errors).
July 4, 2013 at 10:29 am
I am getting the same problem. Has this issue been resolved for windows server 2012 my computer keeps restarting itself.
October 4, 2013 at 8:47 am
I have 2 Supermicro s1260 servers. 1 of them has been fine all along with W2008R2SP1. I tried W2012 on the 2nd unit. After 30 or so days, I just can't make it stable, it keeps on rebooting. My dealer replaced the whole unitt witth the same results. So I downgraded to win2008r2sp1 and i guess it's happy now.
Both units run RAID1 SSD with the integrated Marvell controller.
November 8, 2013 at 1:46 am
Same for me! Both Windows Server 2012 and Windows Server 2012 R2 crash a lot showing IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. I installed a program named WhoCrashed and it reports that it is very unlikely a hardware error and that it is most likely a driver issue.
It seems that Supermicro needs to test a Windows Server 2012 (R2) configuration immediately, because you can't expect buyers to use an old OS like Windows Server 2008 R2 or older while Windows Server 2012 is released more than a year ago.
I sent an email to firstname.lastname@example.com about this problem. I hope it helps!-
January 4, 2014 at 9:37 am
I returned the board and got a new one. I installed Windows Server 2012 R2 (Server 2012 and Server 2012 R2 are both supported).
After a few hours it crashed again. So the other board wasn't broken! I installed Linux on it (Centos 6.5) and it is stable for more than 10 days now.
Conclusion: Don't use it for Windows Server 2012 (R2), even if SuperMicro supports it!-
July 16, 2014 at 8:20 pm
Same problem with both 2012 and r2. Have swapped drives, memory, purchased second board. Not stable whatsoever.
June 25, 2013 at 5:43 am
It's expensive for what it is, but ECC is extremely nice to have (IMO), the i350 NICs are nice (VT-c/VMDq is supported by Linux KVM: http://vmstudy.blogspot.com/2010/04/network-speed-test-iperf-in-kvm-virtio.html), and the CPU is quite adequate for a home/micro-server. The real draw here is the low power usage, adequate performance, and bonus ability to run without fans.
I now have one of these (added the same 8GB DIMM as in the review). It runs Proxmox and FreeNAS (using virtio drivers in KVM), a local Linux instance, etc. Performance is totally adequate, but Atom-like. IPMI works great.
The power supply fan does not seem to do much to cool the CPU, and my stock PSU sounded like a dying hard disk within a week. I replaced it with a fanless 120W Flex-ATX PSU which was 5mm wider than the stock PSU and it fit well enough. There's less than 1mm of space between the side of the new PSU and the ITX board instead of ~5mm, but at least I can see light between them so there is a gap.
Can get CPU temp up to 95C using Linux "stress" utility, which sometimes trips the IPMI sensors from green to amber (starts at 95C), but system maxes out at 94/95C and does not get hotter. Has been stable running at this temperature for extended periods. Usual temperature is 80-85C (with Speedstep enabled and ~20% CPU usage). Saw exactly the same temperatures with both PSUs. At these temperatures case the case does not feel hot to the touch, so I am done messing with it.
September 8, 2013 at 8:42 am
Does Astaro/Sophos UTM and Untangle's new and up and coming version 10 work on this plateform with it's new Linux Kernel? Can people post if they get any of these two UTMs running cleanly.


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December 10, 2008
How to Hijack a Thread
Lay your groundwork. Watch the group interaction. Make yourself known to the community. Engage on a topic or two. Piss a few people off so they'll react to you reliably later.
Watch for your chance. If the blog is any good, the host and/or community practices some sort of moderation, active or passive. You'll have to catch them on a busy day or heated topic to get them to feed trolls.
Commit to the campaign. Prepare not to have a life for the duration. Refresh frequently and respond to everything before anyone else can. Drown anyone speaking in good faith in an avalanche of comments.
Build a fire. Say something known to be controversial. Be sure to compliment community members--in the most backhanded way possible. Extra points for dog whistles.
Make yourself the injured party. Recharacterize any objections to your statements as referenda on your character. Loudly protest your ignorance of even the concept of a dog whistle. Of course you didn't say that. Abuse yourself sarcastically in strong terms to show how misunderstood you are.
Limit your scope. If the conversation happens across several blogs, pick the one you want to make your own. Most of the community will gravitate to the comment threads where real discussion is happening, leaving a smaller field for you to manipulate.
Divide the community. Pick out a couple of people to side with. Ideally, these should be people with a history of both arguing with the community and making at least occasional good points. Agree broadly as soon as they say anything reasonable, so that anyone else who wants to agree with them must also agree with you.
Deflect topical discussion. Engage with everyone who still wants to discuss the idea at hand. However, don't engage with them on the topic. If you can turn them to talking about your behavior, this is a plus, but any sideline or distraction will do.
Deny group authority. Insist that if anyone wants to judge your behavior, they must also judge the behavior of all community members by the same standards. Point to their reactions to your bad behavior as bad behavior that also needs to be censured. Ignore the fact that you haven't contributed to the community in the same way they have.
Prepare to lose. You've almost certainly chosen a blog where your disruption will be noticed. After all, that's what you're there for. The problem with avoiding chaos is that these people have come together for a reason--to talk to each other, not you. They're eventually going to go back to doing just that, closing up ranks, and you're going to have to find a new way, or a new blog, to get anyone to pay attention to you again.
61 comments:
- Peggy said...
At least the hijacking in DM's thread is allowing the real discussion to take place at drdrA and Dr. Isis's blogs.
- Silver Fox said...
Very good characterization of the situation *over there*. I would also think that trying to have the last word might be part of the effort - but one can never guarantee that!
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Peggy, I think there would have been real discussion at drdrA's anyway. There was before DM linked to it. Much of the discussion at Dr. Isis's blog was about the hijacking, and several people at DrugMonkey tried to put out suggestions for discussion that went nowhere in the noise.
No, this damaged the conversation, at least this time around. It pisses me off particularly because the parts that still managed to come through was some good brainstorming, and I think there could have been more. One of the things I wanted to do here was lay out how it was done, so someone can recognize it if it happens again. - 12/10/2008 2:53 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Silver Fox, I admit, I was tempted to keep fighting it out, but there wasn't any point. It wasn't even about him defending his position. It was plain old trolling.
- Greg Laden said...
One of the things I wanted to do here was lay out how it was done, so someone can recognize it if it happens again.
You mean those aren't instructions? Because they're pretty good instructions. - 12/10/2008 3:49 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
They're just about perfect instructions, which is what told me it was deliberate. I tried pretty hard to think of things that would improve it as a strategy (long meeting this morning) and failed.
- Becca said...
Because satire is fun, not because you aren't right...
How to Hijack a Hijacker
Lay your groundwork. Be a well known and well respected commenter.
Jump right in. People will be (understandably) reacting emotionally. Engage this as appropriate to make sure peple feel "heard" (even if not by the hijacker). It helps to actually empathize.
Commit to the campaign. 100-comment threads are stamina straining? That's lazyoldman talk!
Bring a bucket Agree with something totally ridiculous that will make people laugh. Accept all compliments, and spin them your way.
Make everybody the injured party. At least pretend to see thing from multiple points of view.
Broaden your scope Play by house rules on different blogs. Play on multiple levels to fellow commenters on a single blog. Make sure none of your levels are utterly offensive, but make sure some are whimsical.
Unite the community. It's tempting to pick a scapegoat to do this, but smoother to come up with some generic rallying positive words (e.g. "nurturing"). Don't permit dichotomization of the issues.
Redirect topic conversation. Creative segues are your friend.
Keep putting ideas out there. Don't marry your ideas though, you need to appear available for the inevitable barage of marrige proposals.
Prepare to win, but don't expect it. - 12/10/2008 4:09 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Becca, dear, you deserve a medal, or at least a sock monkey, for what you pulled off over there.
Great analysis! Although I'm not entirely sure it was intentional trolling. And our trollish friend did have a good observation or two..
- Stephanie Zvan said...
I, on the other hand, am quite certain...which doesn't make me any more likely to be right. But just think how short a comment could have contained those observations.
- Greg l said...
Style is important. The medium is -a- message.
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Greg, that clued me in to one more thing that really bothered me about the thread, because the message I got from the medium was the one of an abusive relationship. "See how charming I can be when you behave? Well, if I'm not charming, you're obviously not behaving."
[shudder] With that and "Yes, I'm an asshole" (read "I have no intention of changing a thing"), I don't wonder that I got out of there as quickly as I could. - 12/11/2008 12:53 PM
- Comrade Physioprof said...
The asshole still got cookies in the end. Sheesh.
- Stephanie Zvan said...
I hear you, CPP. Your co-blogger reads him differently than I do, though, at least this time. Not the first person that's happened on, either.
nice post Stephanie.
- Greg Laden said...
He should have set his browser to not accept cookies.
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Oh, come on, Greg. You like cookies. Of course, as with any good thing, one does have to watch how one treats the source.
- Stephanie Zvan said...
And Anonymous, thank you.
- Isis the Scientist said...
Greg, that clued me in to one more thing that really bothered me about the thread, because the message I got from the medium was the one of an abusive relationship. "See how charming I can be when you behave? Well, if I'm not charming, you're obviously not behaving."
This is exactly how it happened, Stephanie, and it is a shame. I am glad that I am not the only one who saw it this way. - 12/11/2008 9:36 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Definitely not the only one, Isis. I'm guessing that if we asked Juniper, we'd get a similar answer there too.
- Juniper Shoemaker said...
Thank you again, Stephanie. I have greatly appreciated this post since it went up, and I just want to say now what a fan of yours I am.
- Juniper Shoemaker said...
LOL. I didn't see your last comment, Stephanie.
I posted some last thoughts on this whole affair here, in response to Becca's question. - 12/11/2008 10:04 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Juniper, thank you very much.
- Stephanie Zvan said...
And yes, that has some of the marks of an abusive relationship, all right.
- Juniper Shoemaker said...
Okay, after this, I'll really shut up about it. But since Stephanie has provided a safe space to say it, I'm going to post what I've been writing and then erasing without publishing from comment boxes everywhere:
Am I the only one who cares that Dave didn't apologize to Dr. Isis? I'm just supposed to be okay with the fact that he passive-aggressively called her a crappy cranky bitch and her husband a loser? What, because he's capable of generating nuanced conversation about a controversy when he feels like it? In that case: how hard is it to fucking apologize?
I was too embarrassed to say that in front of a bunch of PIs. I didn't want them to think that I was in third grade or something, especially after my little outburst. But Dave proclaimed himself "unrepentant" on DM's blog, and then had the nerve to go over to Isis's and start telling her how to parent-- in his "warm", paternal way-- as if it were no big deal. That really was the last straw.
Okay. I'm going to shut up about it now. Thanks again, Stephanie. - 12/11/2008 11:19 PM
- Isis the Scientist said...
I am very thankful for women like Juniper, Peggy, and Stephanie. I do fail to see though while people are suddenly willing to start giving him the benefit of the doubt. I hope the DM blog moves on to non-gender related topics soon.
- Isis the Scientist said...
Juniper, this is exactly the point. It made the hair on my neck stand up when he asked if PP was going to let a girl fight his fight for him. The fact that people over there seem willing to embrace him now absolutely disgusts me.
But, you should never be afraid to speak your mind, sweet Juniper regardless who you're speaking to. They might be a "bunch of PIs," but you seem to be the only one speaking any sense. - 12/11/2008 11:23 PM
I think the notion that I or anyone else "embraced" Dave is a tad unfair. I stand by my opinion that he differs from the standard TSZ alienated-ally troll dude in this discussion. There are additional hints of redeemability as well. I suppose time will tell if my optimism is misplaced.
My other point is the responses did a fine job of eviscerating the assholery...so at some point maybe the personal pileon can slow down. I thought we had reached that point. Obviously opinions vary. The suggestion, Isis, that I should avoid blogging gender issues because you do not agree with me on when it is time to deflate the discussion is utter malarky. - 12/12/2008 12:06 AM
- Isis the Scientist said...
Then, DM, I have no idea what your grace under fire comments to him mean. To suggest that drdrA had to "deflame" anyone suggests that the response to his comments was inappropriate and led to nonproductive discussion. As far as the suggestion that he revealed some redeeming qualities that make you think he might not be a bad dude after all? That's lovely. Perhaps you think he didn't mean them? He was possessed by another entity when he typed them? I can totally see how one could misinterpret, "But I have a responsibility to all the other attendees to not fill the schedule with crappy bitter bitches" or "Of course, if this is true then the women scientists reading this must be dumber than most other women" when looking back I realize that they are obviously coming from someone who is supportive of women in science. Maintain your optimism and go have a beer with the guy. But, in outright complimenting him for his handling of the siuation you've alienated your female readers who felt hurt by his comments and made it seem as though it were their fault for being offended. That should be evident by reading the comments here. I don't give my son a cookie for sitting in time out when he misbehaves. I make him say, "I'm sorry, Mommy" before he can go back to play.
The responses may have adequately eviscerated him, in your opinion, but then you reached out and patted him on the head, thus shaming those who called him on the carpet. I suppose I see your need to be peacemaker, but I'll be frank, I'm angry that I feel ashamed for defending women. Again, it should be evident that there are other women who are supporters of the DM blog who also felt ashamed.
Brother Drug, you keep blogging about whatever floats your boat. It's called "DrugMonkey" not "IsisMonkey." I only hoped that you would move on to a new topic because this current topic has descended to a place that makes me uncomfortable. - 12/12/2008 1:51 AM
- Comrade PhysioProf said...
This is what I just commented at DrugMonkey:
I think that the reason some women are disturbed by what is going on here is that they might have considered this blog to be a space with zero tolerance for misogyny, not a misogynist encounter group/recovery session. What was intended to be a discussion of gender issues in science has been diverted into being all about the magical awakening of some random misogynist scumbag who materialized out of nowhere to tell women what to do. This shit is completely typical same-old-same-old, and deserves only the same-old-same-old response. - 12/12/2008 6:45 AM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Juniper, no need to shut up, ever. I searched the thread yesterday for "sorry," because I also wanted to know whether he'd said it to anyone. Of course, that also means no one said it to him, but I'm firmly of the opinion he earned most of the vitriol.
Isis, I'm saying this before I've had my caffeine, so you know it may not be smooth. Know that I agree with you on most of this.
There are some patterns of behavior that have to have been seen to be recognized, in part because they're designed to manipulate. I'm not going to jump on DM, Becca, drdrA or anyone else for not seeing them the same way I do. I am, in fact, going to count it as a little blessing that they don't have that frame of reference.
I am going to let them borrow my frame, but I won't expect them to use it right away. After all, it's warped. It's seeing the world from a place where people shouldn't have to see it. It takes time to absorb and adjust, and even then, it's difficult to work with.
DM, you can put me on the list of people who think the thank you to Dave was over the top. However, I do appreciate that you can hold an unsettled opinion on this. Not everybody can do that, particularly when tempers are high. - 12/12/2008 6:50 AM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
CPP, I'm inclined to take Dave at his word about being a sociopath. What disturbed me was the abuse of a community that's working toward something good. You may well be right about others, though.
- Greg Laden said...
Juniper: Am I the only one who cares that Dave didn't apologize to Dr. Isis?
No, you are not. - 12/12/2008 8:03 AM
- Greg Laden said...
PP: This shit is completely typical same-old-same-old, and deserves only the same-old-same-old response.
I was shocked (and that was not the only emotion) to see Isis suggest that DM move on from gender issues, but of course on reading down this thread I am less shocked and I think I get what both Isis and DM are saying.
I just want to add this: Hijacking a thread has more than one purpose, and one of them is to make the captives bite at each other. We are seeing this here.
PP is totally correct that this is inedible. On my blog, it is usually a racist or two emerging from the muck (Stephanie can attest to this, as by the time I find the scoundrel she has usually eviscerated him, even if sometimes subtly).
So, finally getting to my point: There is no clear guideline or ethic on how to manage a thread when this sort of argument arises. I would never want to fault a blogger for allowing a conversation to go on to the point of discomfort, and I would not want to fault the blogger if s/he banned a commenter like this and even erased that commenter's earlier comments. There are good reasons to allow this kind of conversation to keep running. There are good reasons to stop it.
I can tell you this: Were you to query Stephanie, Isis, DM, PP, me, I'm guessing Juniper, I'm thinking Becca, on key issues regarding gender, gender and science, gender and other professional areas, race and racism, and a few other key political issues, you would probably find an awful lot more in common than not in attitude and point of view, even if personal experiences may vary greatly.
In other words, we are all on the same team. If for a moment you think not, just think of Dave. - 12/12/2008 8:23 AM
- Greg Laden said...
Inedible, I say!
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Uh, yeah, what Greg said. (Dude, you must have had your coffee already, although you did forget the creationist trolls that I eviscerate.)
- Drugmonkey said...
Isis in that case let me offer my apologies. I clearly gave the impression that I was head-patting an assclown and thereby endorsing his right to say some stupid ass and hurtful shit.
For the record, I do not endorse the stupid ass and hurtful shit.
I also apologize for the resulting implication that I was saying that the flaming and evisceration of stupid ass and hateful comments was unwarranted. I was not. I should have preceded such words with "well justified" and "appropriate" and the like to make this clear. - 12/12/2008 11:07 AM
- okham said...
OK, honestly: haven't we all at some point wished that we had screened a certain comment, or at least asked the author to rephrase certain parts ?
I for one admit that I am not ready to have anyone (especially anonymous) write just whatever on my blog and let it pass.
If I am not comfortable with something that is said in a comment, either I am going to contact the author (if I can) and ask for revisions, or I am not going to accept the comment. - 12/12/2008 3:49 PM
- daedalus2u said...
Greg, getting reasonable people to fight with each other is something that sociopaths are quite good at. That is one of their major tactics.
- drdrA said...
Ah- ok, I never gave Dave a pass- DM never gave Dave a pass.
And for the record- the discussion did need de-flaming because comment threads where people just spend 200 comments calling each other assholes are not useful. I stop paying attention, and it pisses me off when a discussion that I care about devolves into pointless mud-slinging. It might make you feel better- but it doesn't accomplish anything. If this were my kids I wouldn't care who started it. I would tell them to knock it off and move on to the important stuff.
Furthermore, in this case we had exhibit A - an actual live silliness spewing subject- to actually provide a live demo for the discussion. - 12/12/2008 4:30 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
drdrA, please see again the part about sociopaths splitting communities. The fact is, he set up a situation that needed to be dealt with if anything productive was going to happen.
Isis and CPP decided to attack. He reacted in a way to encourage bigger attacks. You, Becca and DM chose to engage civilly, possibly more civilly than you would have had their been no attacks. He sucked up to you in a way that made the whole thing look much cozier than it was.
He played it. He pushed to exaggerate both strategies so they came into conflict. Please don't let his created conflict become yours. Please.
And yes, I'm not just speaking to you on this. - 12/12/2008 4:46 PM
- Isis the Scientist said...
Dr. Isis is totally over this. She and DM have not kissed (he forbade it), but they have made up and are totally bff again. At the end of the day it is important to remember who your allies truly are. DrugMonkey and PhysioProf do have a track record for being advocates for women. We may have skirmished on this issue, but it was resolved fairly peacefully because that's the way adult discourse happens (in contrast the Dave-style). This is a perfect example of how two people can have a grown-up disagreement over a gender issue and have it be resolved without going nuclear.
Juniper said: "how hard is it to fucking apologize?
I could apologize in the way you ask, but it would be insincere. The most inflammatory things I said were poorly marked sarcasm and jokes. I've made classic newbie internet message board mistakes. I'm sorry for that in the sense that if I weren't such a dork, I no doubt would have known that my brand of sarcasm and humor completely falls flat in this type of forum. DM rightly has chastised me, but I think he can back me up based on posts he's pulled (yes, he is actively moderating) that I really am joking and deliberately pushing buttons some of the time. It doesn't work in this venue, obviously.
So I'm not going to apologize for being mean to Isis, because I really wasn't trying to be mean. What I do honestly apologize for is any undercutting of confidence my words may have given (as in 'oh crap the world really IS full of misogynist assholes'), because that doesn't help anyone and really is not anything I'd like to see happen. Toward that end, obviously, I should have said that I recognize that fathers are also responsible for child-rearing and other chores that often unfairly burden mothers or something like that instead of calling Isis' husband a loser. Etc. I am not used to being so explicit. People who know me in real life know. I assumed people could easily laugh off some corrosive internet remarks, or recognize it as the goofy playful debate I meant it to be. I recognize now that I was wrong -- not through a fault of anyone reading my words, but rather my misunderstanding of the audience and medium. So I'm sorry -- not for what I said, but in the way I said it.
Still, I do think it's an important that women break out of traditional gender barriers instead of using them as an excuse. In that regard, I am not convinced Isis has done so. She can do better.
At this point, assuming you are still reading, you may be parsing my motivation in posting this. What motivated me to finally say something here was this:
I was too embarrassed to say that in front of a bunch of PIs."
This actually shocked and hurt me and made me feel sorry. Juniper: NEVER feel embarrassed to say what you think. Especially in an anonymous venue like this. It's what the internet is best for. You can fling out crazy things and see how people respond without the worry and residue these things bring in real life. Call it sociopathic (it sort of is), but it's also liberating. What I liked, Juniper, is that you of everyone called me out in the harshest most direct way possible. It was really your words on Isis' blog that made me think "Holy crap. I've really pissed some people off. They're not just pretending." DM can unfortunately vouch for the fact that it didn't completely kill my tendency toward inflammatory jabs. But it did make me think. So say what you think. Always. That's what your brain is for. If you keep it all in, what good is it? You have a blog. Don't let the blog be an excuse to not let loose your ambition in real life too. - 12/12/2008 8:29 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Dr. Isis, that makes me very happy. Sleep well tonight, please.
- Comrade PhysioProf said...
Dude, I think you are missing a very important point here. No one gives a flying fuck whether you're earnest, joking, learning, growing, spurring discussion, or whathefuckever. The problem is that your long-winded masturbatory gibbering, which seems to always end with some kind of exhortation to people that they are doing whatever it is that they are doing wrong, is WASTING OTHER PEOPLE'S VALUABLE TIME. No one wants to show up at what should be an interesting discussion and have to wade through thousands of words of your inane narcissistic fuckwittitude. Get your own motherfucking blog and knock yourself out. But stop acting like such a motherfucking asshole in other people's spaces.
- D. C. said...
I can totally see how one could misinterpret [...] "Of course, if this is true then the women scientists reading this must be dumber than most other women"
Hmmm. I read that as reductio ad absurdem, and looking at the context still don't see any other way to read it. - 12/13/2008 6:19 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
D. C., I read that as one of those statements that ultimately boils down to, "Look what I can get away with saying because it's a joke. Don't you get it? Yeesh, I said it was a joke. (No sense of humor.)" When it isn't funny, all that's left is the hostility.
- ScientistMother said...
Oh gosh, I don't get why you female, colored person who has faced discrimination and judgment based solely on either your gender, cultural heritage or both don't understand a joke from poor defenseless white male like myself.
I have avoided the discussions over at DM's b/c quite frankly getting my science done was far more important then giving this guy a comment. However he seems to be moving all over the place leaving comments, giving sage advice. Sorry Dave, I don't need advice from you. I need you to learn to actually think about and how you're saying it.
Nor do I think Juniper needs your type of advice.
Why should women have to change? why don't you stop being so closed minded and judgmental - 12/13/2008 11:33 PM
For the record, I didn't find Dave's very long rants about gender issues much fun. I don't feel like showing all my scars of injustice just so he can 'get it', and after a while I started skipping his contributions because I simply found them way too depressing. I thought it a shame he took up so much room on the blog because there are others with opinions I am much more interested in. It's nice to find a measured, thoughtful discussion (which also feels a bit safer) over here. Thanks Stephanie
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Hi, ScientistMother. All you said and then some. Thanks for stopping by, and I hope the science prospered.
Anonymous, you're very welcome. I'm glad to hear this feels like a safer space. - 12/14/2008 5:14 PM
- daedalus2u said...
Wasting other people's time is another strategy of sociopaths. Causing strife, difficulties, anxiety, worry, distress; anything that keeps good scientists who are not sociopaths from thinking about and doing science leaves more science for the mediocre scientists who are sociopaths to do.
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Daedalus, remind me not to get on your bad side. :)
- Silver Fox said...
Stephanie, much earlier, when I mentioned tyring to have the last word, I meant that could be an additional strategy of a hijacker - I didn't mean that you or any other of the reasonable people posting should try that - I don't think *that* game could ever be won with a hijacker (except by the blog owner deleting comments!). Sorry for getting back to that so late - I've had some trouble commenting recently (so much stuff, too little time!).
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Silver Fox, I admit, I figured out what you were talking about some time after I left my comment. No worries, though.
I stopped by via a link from Dr Isis' blog (to a different post) & have some insight to offer into the Dave problem; my father interacts in exactly the same way, and it's exactly as infuriating if you don't realize what's happening.
He does the same thing -- says intentionally inflammatory things to "stir things up" (his words) and provoke a reaction -- because he doesn't do so well with normal reason-based argument, so if he can get his opponents (i.e., everyone) riled up, he can critique the high emotion. "This can be a learning experience for them," he thinks.
He preaches a lot about the importance of controlling your emotions, "sticks & stones", etc. -- partly because he wants to believe it (*he* is very easily wounded by words) but also because it absolves him of blame. If other people get upset -- and even remain upset, months later, because of the horrific things he's said -- that means *they* have something to learn about not being ruled by their emotions. They should grow up and get therapy or something.
He appeals to the importance of "facts" constantly -- demanding multiple & detailed supporting examples for any critique you might offer (though it's impossible to get through the first one without him changing the subject) but at the same time never giving actual *relevant* facts to support his own arguments -- just overwhelmingly long streams of tangential crap -- and he'll readily move the goalposts if called on it.
He seems to have an overwhelming need to be "the expert" in any discussion. If he is clearly in over his head, he will do his best to change the subject. If he at least understands part of the discussion, he assumes his place at the head of the table and starts the process of educating all present -- if you say something he doesn't grasp, he assumes it's irrelevant. If you try to offer more advanced information he will argue with you (using the techniques above) until you give him back the floor. Because every conversation is yet another opportunity for *you* to learn from *him* -- there is no situation where he will sit back and listen to you with interest -- if he listens for a moment, it's only because he's waiting for one of his keywords to pop up, so he can start another lecture. He's quite distinguished-looking, mind you, so people new to the game find themselves trapped for a very long time, too timid/respectful to have any chance at all in diverting him.
I notice quite a few behavioral overlaps with Dave's comment here, and his comments in the battle in question.
If I'm right, Dave doesn't *think* he's a troll, though he functions as one. Perhaps he wanted to spice things up a bit with some non-PC truthiness (because you need someone to be provocative to have a "real" discussion). Perhaps he didn't (and probably still doesn't) realize how obviously weak his grasp of logic is -- because he usually relies on his bag of rhetoric tricks -- and was hurt by the many strongly-worded responses. Surely he deserves more respect than that. And so the offensive defense begins. And the last-word-ism. Etc.. And even when he draws you on by seeming to concede some things... trust me, that will all be forgotten the next time the topic comes up.
And clearly he *still* doesn't understand that you are not all arrayed about his feet like little children hungry for his wisdom, but currently pouting because he phrased a few things a bit roughly.
Anyway, many of the responses in that thread and in this discussion here gave me a nice warm feeling. I wish some of you folks had been around when I was growing up!
But the solution is to notice the pattern, and stop it cold before the real escalation and 20-car pileup begins. He's not going to learn anything (I submit the comment above as exhibit A), and the wreckage is brutal, every time. If you're moderating a discussion and someone pulls a Dave, it's your choice to allow the first comment or two (and the resulting backlash) but if so I strongly recommend just inserting a polite note at that point that "the Dave" has been closed out of the remainder of the discussion, and a virtual air-freshener has been sprayed, so useful conversation may resume. - 12/16/2008 5:11 PM
Ugh; sorry for the long rant! I hope you get something useful out of it. And be glad that Dave isn't an inextricable part of your life.
I'm still reading through that thread, and sweet jesus, this guy has whatever mental disorder my father does, exactly. Notice how many times Dave lists his own qualifications, awards, proof of his popularity, etc. etc.. How many times does he say he's a nice person? It'd be interesting to count those and then see how many self-compliments each of the other posters give themselves.
And he's definitely designated himself as the center of the discussion, as if he's participating from a wiser perspective than everyone else.
Holy fuck, this is creeping me out. I'm done now. - 12/16/2008 6:05 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
Anonymous, no apologies necessary. That's a lot to think about, but it's definitely worth it. Thank you.
Anonymous wrote: "I'm still reading through that thread, and sweet jesus, this guy has whatever mental disorder my father does, exactly."
Narcissistic personality disorder, perhaps? - 2/04/2009 12:01 PM
- Stephanie Zvan said...
MH, without access and training, I'm not diagnosing anything beyond "fucked up."
imma hijack ur thread... lol!

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Beat the Pats!
My wife ill be making her first regular season appearance as her sister will be watching the baby girl.
Beat the Pats!
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I will be there... My nephew is coming down from Boston... Somehow he is a Jets fan while his father and brothers love the Pats... This will be his first game down here... 6 of us heading up after Thanksgiving dinner...
Won't get too excited because we won today but if we win is our season turning around??
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I tried killhdinitrd on the virgin 7.2.2 kernel on my 9.3.2b SA2 TiVo and it's now in a reboot loop after the "Almost there" screen.
What's the trick? I was happily running a hacked TiVo on 7.2 until the 9.3.2b upgrade happened - was kinda forced into it because it wouldn't update guide data any more on the old 7.2 system. Sigh ...
ScanMan --> Just another Tivo hacker...
Killhdinitrd SA S2 Monte S2 Unscramble Upgrade Tivo Software
ScanMan --> Just another Tivo hacker...
Killhdinitrd SA S2 Monte S2 Unscramble Upgrade Tivo Software
I have tried to download the referenced zip and I keep getting a not logged in message what gives?
I have discovered my mistake so disregard this post. TKS
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I was wondering, While I was reading trough the killhdinitrd tread, it said that no prom mod is needed to use this. I would like to know if it would work on my following models.
Tivo Series 2
Mdl # - TCD540050
Tivo Series 2
Toshiba digital media server
Mdl #- SD-H400
Just wondering cause the prom mod seems a bit expensive to do or have done.
Killhdinitrd was originally developed for the HR10-250 to eliminate the need for a prom change. The TCD540050 was designed to be invulnerable to the killhdinitrd exploit. The only way to hack it is to replace the prom.
I have no idea about the Toshiba. I would suggest searching for it by model number and seeing what you can find in this forum.
There's a difference between needing help, and just being plain ole' lazy.
"You cannot teach a man anything. You can only help him find it for himself." Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
HR20-700 with 2 TB, HR22-100, HR22-100, HR22-100, HR23-100 all running 0x5cd and networked.
Sorry to ask, but I can't seem to get the image to work with a hacked kernel... and it's now in a reboot loop after the "Almost there" screen. These are the commands I used. I tried one, then tried it in the tivo then I tried the other.
dd if=/usb/vmlinux-series2-7.2.2-oth.k1-01-2.px of=/dev/hdc3
tpip -k /usb/vmlinux-series2-7.2.2-oth.k1-01-2.px -S 1 /dev/hdc
I am using this image http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...32#post8707432
Does anyone know what version that image is?
and i have a TCD24008A.
Please help.
I also ran killhdinitrd on the kernel.
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Thai Shrimp is a yummy appetizer cooked in oriental style. Greg Patent shows a easy to prepare healthy tasty shrimp fritter recipe that is sure to tickle your taste buds. Crispy and flavorful this Thai cuisine definitely warrants a place in your dinner table.
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If you love waffles you are simply going to adore this Norwegian version of the same. Crunchy rolled cone shaped cookie filled with whipped cream and berries makes for some treat. Greg patent shows you how to prepare these wafers at home and get indulging.
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Although this traditional Jewish bread is seen making rounds on the table during the Passover holidays you can bake some at home any day using this recipe. Greg Patent tells you how you can bake crispy ultra thin bread at home that makes great accompaniment
Creamy and crispy cannoli is an Italian delicacy that features chunks of chocolate candied citrus peel and ricotta cheese based filling. Greg Patent shows how to make crunchy outside creamy inside dessert that is solely soul satisfying. A yummy way to appease
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MU College of Veterinary Medicine to Open Cancer Center in Wentzville
The University of Missouri College of Veterinary Medicine will bring its educational, research and outreach services to the St. Louis area with the opening of a new facility in the spring of 2011.
Mizzou Animal Cancer Care will offer advanced care for veterinary cancer patients. The University Board of Curators on Monday finalized the purchase of a building at 1092 Wentzville Parkway, in Wentzville, Mo., which will house the cancer care facility.
The center's services will include diagnostic and treatment options, such as computed tomography and radiation therapy, for dogs and cats that are referred by their regular veterinarians. Neil Olson, dean of the College of Veterinary Medicine, said the new center will make cancer treatment more convenient for pet owners in eastern Missouri, southeast Iowa, southern Illinois and even Kentucky who have, in the past, brought their pets to the College's Veterinary Medical Teaching Hospital in Columbia, Mo.
"Pet owners increasingly choose a level of intervention for their animals' care that is comparable to that available to people," Olson said. "Aggressive cancer therapy for dogs and cats sometimes requires radiation treatment over several days and sometimes even weeks and months. Spending a long time in a vehicle is hard on any animal, harder still on sick pets, but owners may not want to leave their animals behind at the teaching hospital in Columbia to drive home. This new care center will facilitate our ability to deliver state-of-the-art cancer intervention therapy while making it easier for both the patients and their owners."
Olson said the 9,579-square-foot building purchased to house the new Mizzou Animal Cancer Care is a former medical office where human radiation oncology services were provided. The existence of a radiation-containing vault within the building made it ideal for its new purpose as a veterinary cancer care office.
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Dubai Customs inspectors caught a passenger of Asian origins trying to smuggle more than 15 thousand banned tablets while attempting to enter the UAE through Dubai International Airport- Terminal (3).
Ali Al Mugahwi, Director of Airport Operations at Dubai Customs, stated that the Customs inspectors operating on the entries contributed to uncovering the smuggling attempt of a large quantity of medical tablets weighing around 44 kg. He added that the medicine is listed under the restricted medicine category and is prohibited to be exchanged or taken unless with a medical prescription due to its danger and potential health threat which might cause death if used without medical supervision as per the instructions of the Ministry of Health.
Al Mugahwi further noted that Customs inspectors' suspicion and doubts increased when the reluctant passenger was approaching the inspection area. Therefore, his personal luggage was manually inspected only to find out he was hiding the tablets which cannot be for personal usage due to its large quantity and rather brought in for commercial purposes. The passenger and the seized medicines were referred to the relevant authorities for further legal procedures.
Al Mugahwi stressed Dubai Customs keenness to provide professional competencies who are well-experienced and all-knowing about the different smuggling techniques and are familiar with the body language organised by Customs to the inspectors to detect suspects easily and foil their smuggling attempts of any contrabands. Being well-equipped with the most hi-tech checkup and inspection tools and machines in the different customs entries, protecting society from the dangers of smuggling narcotics as well as prohibited and restricted items is considered a major responsibility at the department.


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Sunday, June 3, 2012
My Navimie Chibi Commission is done!
A huge thank you to Sleepingfox! You might have remembered I linked a picture done by her on my post about learning about how to bear tank. I liked her Chibis so much I asked her to do me one, and I asked if she could make her cute! And look at this adorable picture she sent back.
If you didn't know Navi had green eyes, OMG you can see them now! So I've got Navi in her 100k set, with the wood weapon on her hip, and I asked if she could be doing a victory sign. If you ask me, it looks a bit Vulcan like as well, so I really REALLY like that! So what did Navimie think of that? This was her comment:
"Live Long and Prosper, and Walk with the Earthmother!"
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That looks soo damn cute! I just want to scoop her up and give her a hug. I also loved my hunter's green eyes when I was a tauren. I know how ecstatic you must be but I disagree. I think you should use it EVERYWHERE! :)
ReplyDelete@McTacky - TY Tacky :) you know, I just realised you are the only male to comment on this post... maybe the boys don't like it...
@Erinys - You know, I was thinking of getting one with the sad face and big eyes, looking up at you pleadingly "Please kill me quickly, don't make me suffer..." :P just for you!
@Saya - TY and it is an honour to have you visit!- AnonymousJune 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Really cool navi! Imagine a lil legendary Roshii aaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Aretha Franklin Performs "Precious Lord" at MLK Memorial Dedication
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Aretha Franklin Performs "Precious Lord" at MLK Memorial Dedication
Stevie Wonder Performs "Happy Birthday" at MLK Memorial Dedication
Yes indeed! Her music touches the soul!
President Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, daughters Sasha and Malia, and Marian Robinson tour the Martin Luther King Jr. National Memorial before the dedication ceremony in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Oct. 16, 2011.
at the memorial service i noticed many that were wearing white caps. Were they representing a particular group or club or were they caps that had a mlk logo on them? I would like to see what the caps say and if it is possible to buy one or anything else that was on this day.
The King Memorial: A Symbol of the Best in America
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On August 28, 1963, the day of the March on Washington, all of the platform speakers were invited to the White House to meet with President John F. Kennedy. A few months earlier I had made my very first trip to the White House. I was only 23-years-old and also the brand-new chairman of the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee. It was amazing. A week into my new job I was headed to the White House to meet President Kennedy.
I was with five other great men, including Martin Luther King Jr., Roy Wilkins, James Farmer, and Whitney Young, known as the Big Six leaders of the movement. There were many women who were instrumental to our plans to march and many heroines of the movement, including Coretta Scott King, Fannie Lou Hamer, Dorothy Height, Ella Baker and Diane Nash. However, as was customary in those times, none of them were in the room that day. We told President Kennedy the people could not wait any longer. We were planning to call on thousands to march on Washington.
President Kennedy was visibly concerned. He was sitting in the Oval Office in his rocking chair, and he began to rock a little more briskly. He was concerned about violence. He wanted to cool down rising tensions, but A. Philip Randolph, the founder of the Brotherhood of Pullman Car Porters, the dean of our movement, and the visionary behind the march assured him this would be a lawful, peaceful, non-violent march. I will never forget. Randolph told him, we could not wait any longer. "Mr. President, he said, "if we cool down any more we will be in a deep freeze."
After the largest march Washington had ever seen, the President stood in the door of his office relaxed and beaming. He shook each hand and said, "You did a good job. You did a good job." But when he got to Martin Luther King Jr. he said, "And you had a dream."
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$50-$100, For Kids, Unique October 20, 2009, 0 Comment 61If you ahve a toddler that wants to take pictures like mommy or daddy this is the perfect digital camera for the job. It looks fun, has easy grip rubber handles and takes good pictures too.
The toddler digital camera can hold up to 150 pictures in the built-in memory and then can be transferred to a computer afterwards.
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For 2012, the SLE Canyon loses its manual transmission; otherwise the Canyon is basically unchanged.
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Big Boy Meatballs And Spaghetti
- 4 slices white bread, crusts trimmed
- 3/4 cup milk
- 1 1/2 pounds ground chuck
- 3/4 pound sweet Italian sausage, removed from casings
- 2 ounces (about 1/2 cup) finely grated Parmigiano Reggiano
- 1/2 cup chopped white onion
- 4 tablespoons minced garlic
- 2 tablespoons minced fresh parsley leaves
- 3/4 teaspoon salt, plus more for seasoning
- 3/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
- 3 tablespoons olive oil
- 2 cups chopped yellow onions
- 1 teaspoon crushed red pepper
- 3/4 cup dry red wine
- One (28-ounce) can tomato puree
- One (28-ounce) can crushed tomatoes
- 2 bay leaves
- 1/3 cup chopped fresh basil leaves
- 1 tablespoon chopped fresh oregano leaves
- 2 tablespoons evaporated milk, optional
Tear or cut bread into pieces and place in a small bowl along with milk. Set aside for 10 minutes, then stir with a fork, mashing bread to form a paste. Place ground chuck, sausage, Parmesan, white onion, 2 tablespoons garlic, parsley, 3/4 teaspoon salt, and 3/4 teaspoon pepper in a large bowl. Add bread-milk mixture and mix gently but thoroughly to combine. Shape into large meatballs (about 1/2 cup each) and refrigerate briefly.
In a large nonstick skillet, heat olive oil over medium-high heat. Add meatballs, in batches if necessary, and cook until very well browned on all sides, 8 to 10 minutes. Transfer browned meatballs to a large pot.
To oil remaining in the skillet, add onions and crushed red pepper and cook, stirring occasionally, until onions are soft and lightly browned, 6 to 8 minutes. Add remaining 2 tablespoons garlic and cook, stirring, for 2 minutes. Add wine and cook, scraping any browned bits from the pan, until reduced by half, 1 to 2 minutes. Add tomato puree, crushed tomatoes, 1 1/2 cups water, and bay leaves and bring to a simmer. Carefully transfer hot tomato sauce to the large pot containing meatballs. Place the large pot over medium-high heat and bring sauce to a gentle boil, undisturbed. Reduce heat so sauce just simmers, and cook until sauce is thick and meatballs are tender, 45 minutes to 1 hour, stirring occasionally once the meatballs have firmed up and have begun floating. Stir in basil and oregano and season with salt to taste. If sauce seems too acidic, add evaporated milk and cook a few minutes longer. Serve meatballs and sauce ladled over cooked pasta of choice, garnished with additional Parmesan cheese if desired.


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Today I had to put my Sky down. His poor body was deteriorating before my eyes. If he had been a short haired cat, you would've seen nothing but skin and bones. He was with me for a little over 12 years and was at least 13 years old maybe older. He was such a happy friendly cat but as he became older, he became more sensitive to being touched especially his paws. He hadn't been doing well for a while now and I just kept putting off the inevitable. When I put him in the carrier, he didn't resist at all. Luckily, I don't need to make appointments for this kind of thing and my vet hospital even has a room where they do this and they take you back there right away so you don't have to wait in the lobby. The room has a comfortable couch and Sky was able to sit on it so it was more like being at home. Now he's pain free and at peace. I'll always love and miss you Sky. We'll meet again some day sweet boy.
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Holy shit, Heather. Your mother is JUST AS PERFECT AS YOU HAVE ALWAYS CLAIMED. She makes me feel like a sloppy slattern, and I'm 5,000 miles away. (When was the last time I plucked my eyebrows? or moisturized anything below the neck? I DO NOT RECALL.) Anyhow. Like your beautiful mama, I, too, am "griteful" for your blog. Thank you to you and your family for putting yourselves and your adventures out there for the world to enjoy. Mahalo and aloha and MELE KALIKIMAKA from Caroline in Hawai`i
Your mother is lovely. And you can't tell from the video that she is Mormon.
I love that woman! Hugs from Kim and Susan in Memphis, Linda!
Love this: "Heather, she exaggerates a lot…"
NOOOOOOOOO! Say it isn't soooooo!!!!
Mom's got your number, Dooce. Love her to death, she is adorable!!!
I was totally waiting for that little cute baby boy to head but his grandmom in the face. One of my kids would have so done that to my mother. Anyways, Heather, your mom is the epitome of a warm lovin ma. Is she free for phone calls on tuesdays?
I know Basie isn't yours (….Basie isn't yours, right?), but it was fun to pretend for a minute- "What if Heather is really SO crazy that she actually decided to add another member to her family since she doesn't already have enough to do!"
I love the Avon World Sales Leader. The end.
love it. love it!
Why is your the only camera that is shaking? Is Marlo holding it so you can hold the cue cards? Your mom is delightful! It must be comforting to know that you will still be as beautiful as you get older.
i saw a little heather humour in there … good to see you come by it honestly!! but were there subliminal messages in there? i have an urge to call your mom and order some avon …
She is so cute! And stylish! And cute!
I really loved this, being able to see your mom talking about how proud she is of your blog. I've been blogging for nearly 5 years and after the first couple of years, I think my mother just stopped reading. I was single then and in Paris on my own, and she didn't want to read about my sex life. Now that I'm married (and I don't write about my sex life… much) you'd think she'd start reading again to keep up with my life so far away. But no… and in a way, this is liberating for me as a blogger. My mommy isn't watching me, and I no longer feel the need to "duck and cover" if I'm gone beyond the boundaries of what SHE would consider "acceptable".
Awwww, now I love your mother too.
Your mom is so awesome. I want to put her in my pocket and take her everywhere with me. "She exaggerates a lot"… haha! Love the accent too, by the way. As a Texan, I can always appreciate a hearty Southern accent.
Your mom is such a sweetie! I myself went through pretty hardcore postpartum but didn't really realize what was really going on until I read your recent book. I'm from Salt Lake City but now live in Seattle, so pretty much every thing you write about I can relate to My mom passed away a few years back and I often wonder how she would feel about my parenting and blogs etc and what your mom had to say really brought tears to my eyes!
You are such a rockstar and I look forward to reading your blog daily. Merry Christmas, enjoy those funeral potatoes I'm sure someone is making them in your family for the holidays lol!


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When passing or attempting to accelerate quickly the entire car "bucks", it's not a stutter or hesitation but rather it feels like the car is going to stop dead in its tracks. It only lasts a split second then resumes normal operation. I have recently had cam and crank sensors replaced with OE parts, water pump, timing belt and coil packs have also been replaced. The only other issue is that the car will stall frequently on start up or when in heavy traffic.
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Written in 2003 as the Writing Task Response for the QCS Test. The theme was 'Faces', and it had to be approx. 600 words. I may upload the stimulus in the future. The stimulus I chose for this story was a picture and passage from 'Dorian Grey', a picture of a building facade, and a picture of the evil queen from Snow White looking in her mirror. A woman sits on a bench, reflecting on her life through the actions of those she is observing.
This was also written in late 2001, when I was in grade 10. Our unit of study was 'science fiction', and the first task (which unfortunately never got assessed) was to write a short story with one of a selection of bad things happening. I chose the 'A cloud of gas covers the sun and wipes out life as we know it' kinda thing. This is the result! Hehehe! I'm especially proud of the twist in the end! ^_^
Written in late 2003 as a uni folio submission piece. Unfortunately, I didn't make it into the course, but I'm still very proud of this story. It had to be 600 words, and titled either 'Grave Errors', or 'The Wave'. No guesses for which one I picked! ^_^ It actually took me forever to decide which one I was going to do, and come up with a story. This is an original story, but thanks to Missy for Chael! ^_^ Please also check out the other submission piece, by going to my fiction press account, it's linked as my library on the main page! Unfortunately, it is not fantasy or sci-fi, so it cannot go on here, but I think it is one of my best pieces! If you comment there, don't forget to tell me you're an elfwood person, so I can check out your stuff too! Newho, onto a description of the story! ^_^ Chael is a half vamp with a mission, to rid the world of vampire scum! But with her human lover along for the ride, 'grave errors' are sure to be made...
This is a fantasy story I'm working on, this part being the very beginning. Please feel free to suggest ideas for plotlines!also check out the notes on Trinity which will explain about characters etc
A short story I did for english assessment in yr 10. Quinn is just an ordinary girl. Or so she thought til she woke up in that strange white room...Will she finally learn the truth?
The product of utter bordeom, and too much time surfing Elfwood ^_^ I have a habit of writing random passages when I'm bored, using ideas that jsut pop into my head. I'm keen to continue this passage, and form a story, tho I'm stuck for ideas at the moment! I'm hopign that soem of you creative and imaginative ppl out there in elfwood land will be able to act as a muse and suggest a possible outcome! hehehe! Enjoy!
This is another part of the Trinity story. This particular scene happens in the middle. I know it's a bit out of order, but if you have any suggestions for what happens before and after this, please tell me!


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This is ROUND ONE.
It still faces the Senate.
Showdown looming on national concealed carry
Next Tuesday, Nov. 15, the U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on legislation that would require all states to honor the concealed carry licenses or permits issued by other states, and the bill H.R. 822 is taking fire from certain corners on both sides.
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I have meet a couple that were really pretty but I have meet several that could have passed as men. It's funny during the games how they always find the more attractive ladies. I do like the fact that the German broads are a little on the easy side.
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Marlies are Headed to the 2013 Calder Cup Playoffs
With Chicago's loss on Friday, Toronto clinched a playoff berthAmerican Hockey League
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The defending Western Conference champions will have a chance to repeat.
The Toronto Marlies clinched a berth in the 2013 Calder Cup Playoffs on Friday night when the Rockford IceHogs completed a 7-3 victory over the Chicago Wolves.
The Marlies will be in the postseason for the fifth time in their eight-year history and the second consecutive spring under head coach Dallas Eakins. Last year, Toronto got past Rochester, Abbotsford and Oklahoma City to win the Western Conference championship, before falling to Norfolk in the Calder Cup Finals.
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LEOPOLD – The Cook-York family reunion will be held June 10 at St. Augustine's parish hall in Leopold.
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