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In previous installments, we covered the basics of the margin regulations. In our final two installments, we'll cover a few practice points and explore some of the more complex margin issues (particularly under Regulation U), that frequently arise in the context of financing transactions.
A Few Regulation U Practice Points
Purpose Statements: Regulation U requires a bank that is extending credit (regardless of the purpose of the credit) to obtain a purpose statement from a customer on Federal Reserve Form FR U-1, if the credit is in excess of $100,000 and is secured directly or indirectly by margin stock. A nonbank lender that is subject to registration under Regulation U is required to obtain a purpose statement from the customer on Form FR G-3 when it extends credit in any amount that is secured directly or indirectly by margin stock. In both cases, the customer must describe the purpose of the credit on the relevant form of purpose statement. If the credit is purpose credit (i.e., to purchase or carry margin stock), the lender must list all collateral securing the credit on the form. It is important to remember that it is the presence of margin stock as collateral, not the use of proceeds, which triggers the requirement for a purpose statement.
Purpose statements must be signed by the borrower or its authorized representative and accepted by the lender or its duly authorized representative "in good faith." Form FR U-1 and Form FR G-3 purpose statements are not filed with the Federal Reserve or any other agency. Lenders are required to retain the purpose statements for three years after the credit is extinguished.
Representations and Warranties: Credit agreements and other lending documents often contain representations and warranties from the borrower about US margin regulation issues. These provisions will often contain, at a minimum, a representation that the proceeds of the credit will not be used to purchase or carry margin stock. That representation does not obviate the need for the lender to obtain a purpose statement on Form FR U-1 or Form FR G-3. Often lenders will also require a borrower to represent that the borrower is not engaged principally, or as one of its important activities, in the business of extending credit for the purpose of purchasing or carrying margin stock. Based on Federal Reserve interpretations, credit extended to any borrower engaged in such business can itself be deemed purpose credit. Finally, in transactions where the borrower is providing a negative pledge over some or all of its assets or similar arrangement, lenders will typically seek a representation by the borrower that margin stock makes up 25% or less of the assets subject to the lenders' negative pledge or similar arrangement. The purpose of this representation is to attempt to ensure that, if possible, the negative pledge or similar arrangement will fall under the exemption from the definition of indirectly secured.
Status of the Stock Matters: Whether a credit that is extended to purchase or carry an equity security constitutes purpose credit depends on the status of the stock at the time a commitment to extend the credit is entered into. If the proceeds of a loan are used to purchase nonmargin securities and those securities subsequently become margin securities (i.e., because of a listing of the stock), the loan is considered to be purpose credit after that point. In that case, the lender is not required to reduce the amount of the loan or require additional collateral if the loan exceeds Regulation U's 50% maximum loan-to-value ratio except when the borrower seeks to withdraw or substitute collateral. Conversely, if the proceeds of a loan are used to purchase margin stock and the stock subsequently ceases to be a margin stock (i.e., through delisting of the stock), the credit ceases to be purpose credit and is no longer subject to the requirements of Regulation U.
Maintaining Credit: Regulation U provides that, if a lender extends a purpose credit that was initially extended in compliance with Regulation U's 50% maximum loan-to-value ratio (as determined by the market price of the margin stock collateral on the date that the lender enters into a legally binding commitment to extend credit), the lender will not be required to request additional collateral or reduce the amount of credit if the value of the margin stock collateral subsequently declines as a result of a drop in the market price of the margin stock collateral.
Is This Thing Margin Stock or Not?
Questions commonly arise as to whether a particular kind of instrument is margin stock. We previously took a look at the definition of margin stock and found that it includes, among other things, publicly traded stock and certain OTC securities. The types of instruments that frequently raise questions include the following:
Common Issues in Acquisition Finance Transactions
The "Junk Bond" Interpretation: The Federal Reserve's 1986 interpretation on shell corporations (commonly known as the "junk bond interpretation") is generally considered to be one of the more controversial Regulation U interpretations. The Federal Reserve determined that, where a lender extends credit to a shell company for the purposes of a tender offer for margin stock of a target, by purchasing unsecured debt securities of the shell company in a private offering when the shell company has no other operating business or other assets to support the repayment of the debt securities, the debt securities issued by the shell company will be considered "purpose credit" and such credit will be presumed to be "indirectly secured" by the target's margin stock acquired by the shell company. Accordingly, the debt securities would be subject to the requirements of Regulation U, including the prohibition on lending more than 50% of the value of the target's margin stock. The Federal Reserve interpretation is based on the view that, practically speaking, a lender can only extend credit to the shell company by relying on the margin stock as collateral for the loan, since the shell company has no assets other than the margin stock to support its indebtedness to the lender.
There are three circumstances under which a shell corporation's unsecured debt securities will not be presumed to be indirectly secured by margin stock under the 1986 junk bond interpretation:
There are a couple of additional points to remember about the junk bond interpretation. First, the presumption of indirect security will not apply in the case of a bona fide public offering or Rule 144A offering of the shell company's debt securities. The Federal Reserve takes the view that purchases of debt securities in a public offering or in a Rule 144A offering do not constitute extensions of credit for margin regulation purposes.
Also, the junk bond interpretation is not applicable if there are any covenants or other arrangements relating to the shell corporation's debt securities that limit the shell corporation's ability to sell, pledge or otherwise dispose of the target's margin stock or that make such sale, pledge or other disposition a cause for acceleration of the debt securities. In that case, the credit would be indirectly secured for Regulation U purposes as a result of such covenants or arrangements, so the presumption of indirect security under the junk bond interpretation would not be relevant.
Other Acquisition-Related Issues: The margin regulations have historically been applied to mergers, acquisitions and other business combination transactions. For example, credit extended to finance the acquisition by a borrower of a controlling block of shares of an issuer that are margin stock is considered purpose credit for purposes of Regulation U. This is the case whether the shares are purchased through a privately negotiated purchase from a substantial holder, in the open market, by a tender offer to public investors, or through some combination of the above. Also, credit extended to finance an acquisition through a cash merger of the borrower or a subsidiary of the borrower with another company is considered purpose credit if, at the time the lender commits to make the loan, the stock of the other company is margin stock. If the stock is subsequently either delisted or extinguished through the merger, the loan will cease to be purpose credit.
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I guess it's a bit much to ask the designers to pass down the savings to customers?? I have the same mentality problem when buying stuff from Ann D...Most of her garments are now produced in Portugal, Poland Morocco etc instead of Belgium and Italy. Price is still exorbitantly high yet quality has dropped drastically in the past few years....I just hope same thing won't happen to Yohji......
Pricing is always a touchy issue, but I believe that when most designers move production, even if they are getting better prices, passing them on to consumers might inadvertently send the wrong message to a lot of people. A price drop might be associated with a drop in quality as well and no one wants that for their brand. Another thing is that moving production facilities might also be done out of necessity as opposed to just a desire to increase profits. If they moved production in order to be able to meet their running costs better and ensure they continue to grow as a business, passing on the savings they make won't help them.
Drops in quality from a high end brand are unacceptable though and there really should be more steps taken to tighten quality control at a lot of these brands. In my own experience though, all of the Yohji clothing I have are definitely very high quality and I don't see any difference between stuff from 2006 and items I have from SS12.
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Actually It was the summertime. My dad drove a bus for a day camp and had to pick up kids in Hollis. So they used to be on the corner rapping all the time. This was way back in 1986 though.
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Actually It was the summertime. My dad drove a bus for a day camp and had to pick up kids in Hollis. So they used to be on the corner rapping all the time. This was way back in 1986 though.
Here's a pic of me from about a month ago. As you can see, I'm hard at work...or is that hardly working? If you look closely, you can see I'm checking my hotmail.
Dr. Zoltar, you work in a very blurry office. ;)
It's nice to see others appriciate the scarrier things in life. Nice Cthulhu plush!
Thanks! I work in a confidential environment so I had to blur out some of the stuff I was working on. And various phone sheets I have hanging up on my cube wall.Quote:
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I have a few Cthulian items hanging around work. My cube buddy and I share horror books all the time. Unfortunately not in the photo is a shelf devoted to a bunch of star wars figures and legos. One day, a co-worker who calls them "dolls" replaced all the light sabers with cocktail umbrellas. It was so funny that I decided to leave them like that.
He thought he was being a smart *** until I got him addicted to the Playskool Star Wars line. Now he has those displayed in his cube as well.
Nice to rub an addiction off on to someone else. Peer pressure never dies out does it? :crazed:
Thanks kidhuman. I'm working on getting as many people as I can where I work into collecting. We once had a multi-site across the nation video conference with all of IT. The head of IT asked for submissions from each site to comment on a quirk or hobby of an employee. A co-worker sent in a blurb stating that I "collected Star Wars actions figures -- er, make that dolls." So now everyone in IT in my company knows I collect. As a thank you for being singled out, I sent the head of IT his very own figure. I never did hear back. But since I was not fired, I figured I did the right thing.
Exhaust Port, yeah that's one of a few Cthulhus I have hanging around my home and office. Just below him at the bottom of my monitor is a Cthulhu Statuette I picked up at the Lovecraft Film Festival in Oregon. There's also an octopus finger puppet there as well. Just a little protection from anyone messing with my cube.
I've attached a painting a friend did for me for my birthday a few years back. He did this off of memory after seeing a picture of Cthulhu only once.
Awesome. After only seeing it once? That's impressive.
Yeah, he's one of those guys that just has a gift for art. He was never professionally trained, but can create impressive drawings in a matter of minutes. I did make him read "The Call of Cthulhu" so I'm sure that helped as well.
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I am working on planning an ultralight cross country trip in the high Sierras with my buddy for this upcoming summer. We have it all worked out except one part. We are unsure if we will be able to get down from one of the passes. It is only 0.2miles and we would be going down about 400ft. If I did my math right that is about a 2000ft elevation change in 1M. So the question is…is that doable? How do you determine something like that?
Thanks!Dec 11, 2009 at 6:00 pm #1552881Plugging in the numbers that's a 22 degree slope. Do you know which pass it is? In most cases, slope is not entirely (or at all) indicative of difficulty when it comes to passes.
Dec 11, 2009 at 6:05 pm #1552883Well it is a cross country route. It is between Rose lake and crazy lake. Rose lake is just South West of Rosemarie Meadow in the JMT…which is near Selden Pass if that helps at all.
Dec 11, 2009 at 6:21 pm #1552885" It is only 0.2miles and we would be going down about 400ft. If I did my math right that is about a 2000ft elevation change in 1M. So the question is…is that doable? How do you determine something like that?"
As the second poster indicated, slope is often not indicative of passability. Much depends on the nature of the terrain; perhaps the rock is wet and lichen covered or there are short vertical cliff bands to be negotiated, or loose talus. The time of year has a huge bearing on conditions, especially on north facing slopes. Your level of fitness, comfort with exposure and technical capabilities should also enter into your decision. Almost every pass in the Sierra is described in one guide book or another. Look for the pass in question in Secor's Rocks and Routes guide to the Sierra. You should be able to find what you need there. Also look for trip reports as your departure date approaches and be prepared to use an alternate route if necessary.
Case in point up here in the Cascades. Mailbox Peak gains 4000' in 2.5 miles and yet is considered merely a strenuous day hike. OTOH, coming off the summit of Mt Stuart there is an innocuous looking slope of about 20 degrees that, when ice covered in spring-early summer, can, and has, taken unwary, though highly experienced, climbers on life threatening rides(including two with I am personally acquainted) due to underestimating it in a mood of elation coming off much more difficult technical climbing.
A final observation: Plan a bypass to any section of your hike that is even slightly questionable and your chances of having a great trip will be greatly enhanced.
Best of luck!
Dec 11, 2009 at 6:35 pm #1552892I have been doing a lot of research and have not been able to find out anything about this area, let alone the specific pass. I would consider us very well experienced backpackers; however we are less experienced on technical routes (if this would be considered a technical route, i dont know). We are going in mid August and the slope is facing the West, so I dont think snow or ice will be a problem. In any case we do have an alternative route planned if needed. Any other tips or recommendations as how to assess a pass while planning a trip?
Dec 11, 2009 at 6:45 pm #1552894This book is handy and might have some info on your pass:
While snow is limited in August, you'll likely find it in some passes in the Sierras.
Dec 11, 2009 at 7:16 pm #1552897Thanks for the book recommendation Christopher! I actually just got that book a little while ago, unfortunately it didnt have anything on this section.
Your right, there is def still a chance of snow, but I think it will be minimal, the face gets alot of sun exposure which I a hoping will melt most of the snow by mid august. ANything left should be passable…i hope haha
Dec 11, 2009 at 9:05 pm #1552926A few ideas:
First, talk to the guys over at highsierratopix.com They're very knowledgeable.
Look for pictures taken at either lake, they may show the pass. Searching webshots, flickr, google images helps.
Look at the pass in Google Earth. Use the tilt feature. Input the UTM or Lat/Long of the pass. You can find this on topozone. Or, use TOPO! it's great.
EDIT: looks like topozone.com sucks nowadays.
Dec 11, 2009 at 9:18 pm #1552930OK, I did the google earth work.
I think the pass that you're talking about it at:
-118.893836°It doesn't look "passable" to me. Looks really steep. Seems like one of those ridges that someone might cross successfully, but not me. Google Earth is just one tool, i recommend looking for photos.
Dec 11, 2009 at 9:19 pm #1552932Thanks for the reply Jack!
Ill definitely go check out highsierratopix.com.Ive searched for photos of both lakes. I was able to see the pass from the Rose lake side, which I am sure is doable. It is the Crazy lake side I cant seem to find much about. Its a very tucked away hidden lake, I dont think many people ever go there.
I have done thorough research on Google Earth and it has helped alot, and I own TOPO, its an awesome program, thats where I figured out the elevation change and distance and all that.
Dec 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm #1552936I guess that one of the fantastic things about the wilderness is that there remains an unknown. Only a few years ago, we would have never dreamed it possible to determine whether a pass was passable. Likely it's still not possible to find out this info. To me it's too bad that before too long there will be trip reports covering virtually every square inch of the Sierra.
Dec 12, 2009 at 2:10 am #1552973Very simple: you go and look at it.
Of course, what is passable to one person may not be passable to another. Which is why YOU have to look at it.
Dec 12, 2009 at 7:39 am #1553003And the most fun part is…
It ends up looking passable. With much effort you get to the top. You even get part way down the other side. Then you reach the impassible cliff band. Back up and over.
This is what makes a good adventure. Go for it.
Dec 12, 2009 at 11:48 am #1553052Looked at it on google earth. Looks pretty steep, but doesn't look cliffy – which is important, as it's often those 35 foot vertical drops that don't show up on the contour maps that getcha. The Rose lake side doesn't look to badd, so go up and take a look – and if that side seems too steep for you taste, then the other side is steeper.
Yeah, I bet you don't find any info on the Crazy lake side. No trail up there and I'd bet nobody goes there.
Here's an option if that way looks too gnarly when you get there:
go north from Rose, up to the top of the peak 12146 and right over the top of it, north along the wide ridgetop to the saddle, drop down the slope – steep but not as steep as the one you've been looking at – and then contour into the creek, follow it up to foolish and crazy.
Looks like a lot of work to get there, though.Dec 12, 2009 at 12:25 pm #1553067> Then you reach the impassible cliff band
Oh yes, been there. Very rugged country and the track along the ridge which was on the topo was not on the ground any more. Totally and utterly overgrown, in remote and very wild country. Identified good looking side spur which would take us down to river, and set off along it – late afternoon, dry country and limited water left.
Topo showed a gentle roll-off and descent from the end of the spur. When we got there we found a complete ring of vertical cliffs, maybe 50 m high. Ahem! Doubt anyone else had ever been there.
Dec 12, 2009 at 12:37 pm #1553071Roger said it best, you might just have to go look at it and have a back up plan.
Usually I am pretty good at figuring it out from studying a topo map. Had an iritating experience last year though. Planned a last minute trip in Nevada and bought a couple 7.5 minute topo maps for part of the trip, and quickly developed a cross country route. Didn't study the maps too closely. The end of the first day required going over a pass. Going up it was much steeper and more difficult than I thought it would be. When I got to the top, the other side was impossible. Perplexed, I got the map out, tripled checked my position, and yes I was where I wanted to be.
Then… I noticed the contour lines were 20 meters, not 40 feet. I had never seen or even knew that the USGS did metric. So I had to take another route. Had two other instances on this trip where the route was steeper than anticipated, per my metric map. But I finished the trip as planned.
BTW, I hate the metric system even more :)
Dec 12, 2009 at 12:54 pm #1553074Thanks for all the great advice and research everyone, I really appreciate it! Paul, that alternative route you said looks like it could work. I have been up to Gordon and harvey lakes but not the others…it is pretty rugges country up there….but I guess thats what I love about it…probably only a small handful of people have ever been there…to me thats sweeeeet!
I was also looking at an alternative route, and going from the southern tip of seven gables south past Aweatasal and Pooha lakes down to Piute Canyon. Once you are out of the 7 gables canyon it looks like a smooth route, but its getting out of the canyon that looks tricky…any tips on an approach from there?
Dec 12, 2009 at 1:45 pm #1553082I have only been in the seven gables lakes valley on skis – came in over Ruskie pass from Merriam Lake.
According to info I have seen, both Stough pass (the obvious saddle due north of Aweetasal Lake) and Gemini Lake pass (comes through by the little lake that's almost on the ridge just east of Gemini) are both class 2. Looking back at my photos of that ridge, I'd say Gemini lakes looks easier, but they are right next to each other so you'd be able to see both from the lakes and make the call then. It looks quite doable.Dec 12, 2009 at 9:49 pm #1553184Hi Nick
> BTW, I hate the metric system even more :)
I wonder … was it (otherwise) a pretty good trip?
Dec 17, 2009 at 11:59 am #1554855I just looked at the USGS topo. The west side is no problem, outside of being a big climb. The east side is definitely problematic, and I would plan a different route. The 200 feet just below the pass concerns me most — I think you'd be okay if you were able to get through that section. There might be a Class 3 scree gully to get you up/down, but I wouldn't count on it.
Dec 17, 2009 at 12:02 pm #1554857BTW, regarding the larger question of "how do i know if a pass is passable," I've found that nothing is better than familiarity with terrain and maps. I've been in some places long enough — e.g. the Sierra, Winds, Colorado Rockies — where I know just by looking at the map whether a pass will go, whether it'll be scree or slab, if it will be heavily vegetated or light, etc. Throw me in a new area and/or give me a different set of maps and I wouldn't be as accurate.
Dec 17, 2009 at 3:24 pm #1554954Roger,
"I wonder … was it (otherwise) a pretty good trip?
(Betcha.)"Absolutely. Going back in two weeks.
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Released in August 1996 for the SNES, Tetris Attack is a puzzle game with swapping tiles, which does not actually have anything to do with Tetris or attacking. Tetris Attack was previously released as Panel de Pon in Japan, but Nintendo decided that skinning the interface with characters from Yoshi's Island would increase the game's popularity tenfold. They were correct.
Note: Runs on stage clear mode are not allowed because they make people fall asleep.
Best single-segment versus mode time: very hard 0:04:19 by Craig 'cyghfer' Gordon on 2010-03-29.
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As I watched many of the speedruns on the SDA, I sought to start creating my own runs. Tetris Attack was not one of the games I initially had in mind for speedrunning, but after watching Darkwing Duck's good, though beatable, run many times, I decided to pursue this game first.
This run got enough good luck on enough stages to achieve a final time of 4:19, thanks in part to some strategy changes from the previous run. First off, I try to start my chain at most after raising my stack one row, which both saves time in the standard sense and also increases the chances of the computer having a relatively high stack when I drop my garbage. For the first 6 stages, my ideal execution is to send a x5 - x7 chain block (depending on the exact stage, the accompanying combo blocks I've made, and how big the computer's stack is when I'm completing a chain), a 4-combo, and a 5-combo. As Darkwing noted in his comments, generally a x8 or so is sufficient to just fill the computer's screen, and creating chains any larger is a waste of time; he also noted that a combo will help fill any gap if the chain was one line short. I took this idea even further. Creating a 5-combo is still faster than creating a new chain link. Compare: clearing two extra blocks vs. clearing three extra blocks + time blocks are suspended in the air after clearing but before falling + block falling time. Although creating two combos instead of one doesn't save that much time, it often means the difference between a :14 and a :15. Note that I need a 5'er as the second combo because two 4-combos will only fill one line. I generally found trying to make more than two combos during a chain too strenuous. And if I don't manage to scrounge up two or even one combo, I just add chain links accordingly.
From stage 7 on, I change my strategy so that my ideal execution is a 3x chain block + a 4-combo, and then another 3x - 5x chain block (with extra garbage as needed). Darkwing mentioned this in his comments but chose to continue with the large chains strategy. The later opponents usually do clear the first round of garbage anyway, but there are nonetheless a few reasons why I prefer the segmentated strategy for them. First, it opens up the slight possibility of achieving a 'quick kill,' wherein the computer's stack is near the top and yet it fails to clear the small chain block sent. Unfortunately, this does not occur in this particular run. The second reason has to do with the process of garbage blocks falling into the opponent's playing field. Anyone who's played the game much will have noticed that larger chain blocks create a loud rumbling sound effect and shake the playing field more upon impact. Most people have probably also implicitly realized that larger chain blocks give the receiver more of a buffer time to recover; this means that more time passes between impact (at which time the stack ceases to rise) and the continuation of the stack rising, which wastes more time in terms of the run and, more importantly, gives the computer more time to reduce his field or find a way to clear the garbage. Furthermore, this buffer time can be extended by clearing blocks, clearing garbage or having garbage fall one or more rows. Thus, reducing the buffer time increases the probability of a relatively quick finish in many respects. If the computer is not engaged in clearing blocks/making combos/making a chain at the conclusion of the garbage-clearing process it will pause for some time after the block hits the stack (crucial) and then either reduce the stack or switch blocks to clear the garbage. You can get away with large garbage blocks in the early stages because the computer's cursor moves slowly enough; all of the later computers will clear barring ridiculous luck. But if the block is only of medium size (3x - 4x, I think), it will cause only a medium buffer time, greatly decreasing the computer's chances of clearing.
One more note about sending a second round of garbage: say you complete a x4 chain with an accompanying 4-combo. If you start another chain before all the garbage from the previous barrage has fallen (including the combo), the combo block's drop will be delayed until the second chain is completed and has already fallen. Thus, if this situation occurs, and you complete another x4/4-combo, the following will occur: the first x4 chain will fall, then the second x4 chain will fall, and finally both 4-combos will fall. This defeats the purpose of throwing in a chain with the first barrage of garbage, and is the reason I will sometimes pause or cease chaining after completing the first chain.
Thus, in the later stages, assuming the computer clears the first round of garbage, the ideal situation is 1. drop a x3/4 block 2. computer clears while you are constructing your second chain, and while his stack is 3-5 lines from the top or so 3. your second chain block falls while the first garbage is still clearing 4. the garbage does not fall after clearing and the computer does the after-clear pause. Unless the computer's cursor is sitting right next to an easy clear this situation will usually lead to a high :10s/low :20s finish. The third main reason I send a x3/4 first is because it is too large a block for all the later computers to ignore, and since it takes <10 seconds to send to the opponent's play field, his stack will usually be high enough to achieve the ideal situation.
I execute my strategies effectively in all but two or so stages. On to the individual stage comments:
Stage 1 - Lakitu
God, Lakitu is such a bitch to start a run against. Compared to the next two stages, Lakitu doesn't raise his stack as high at the start,
and thus is usually pretty low (maybe 4 lines high on average) by the time I've finished my chain, which I generally opted to go the
full x7/4/5. This time I suffice with x5/4/5 and Lakitu fails to clear, netting a very nice :13.
Stage 2 - Bumpty
Bumpty and Lakitu together ended about 80-90% of my runs. It is pretty likely that when your chain drops, the computer will be in the
process of making pointless matches around its field, and won't pause the cursor upon impact. It is also rather likely that an easy clear
will be available that even these early computers can reach in time. Well, I get good luck in that regard this time around, but I mess up
my chain early in the process due to not seeing the purple block that rises in line with the other two. That is seriously the thing that
annoys me most during Tetris Attack: making a match you didn't intend because a block from the rising floor helps you out. What's
worse is that I fail to see the easy chain continuation with the green blocks, and thus have to start a new chain. Still, I recover and get
away with only a x2 plus a few combos, since Bumpty needs to take the time to clear the little 6-combo block I send and keeps his stack
high. Final time is :15, which I consider 'solid' for the first four stages.
Stage 3 - Poochy
Similar to Bumpty - doesn't reduce as quickly as Lakitu, still pretty slow cursor movement. I notice his stack remains pretty high and
only send a x5/4 block. You'll see that he tries to 'stall' with regular matches when the garbage drops but dies when going for the
distant yellow blocks. Again, a nice :15.
Stage 4 - Flying Wiggler
I have similar problems here that I usually have with Lakitu - Wiggler's stack is usually pretty low by the time I send garbage his way.
I opt for the full x7/5/4 and luckily there is no easy clear for the computer; however, he makes one match and stalls for just long enough
to push the time to :17. My general target time going into the 2nd third of the game is actually 1:00 so I was on point so far. If any of the
first four clear I restart.
Stage 5 - Froggy
The next four stages tend to be a tossup in terms of how high the computer's stack will be when the garbage block falls. I underestimate
Froggy here and only send a x5/4/5 block, though he actually responds kindly and clears immediately instead of reducing and leaving
lines of space near the top of his stack. I send some more garbage his way and he goes down in :22, which is a decent time given one
Stage 6 - Gargantua Blargg
Darkwing mentioned that Mr. Gargantua is tough to take down quickly - it's been rather the opposite in my own experience, often
going down without a clear most often of the mid-run opponents. I send a x6 with an excess of combos and he does an inadequate job
of reducing, resulting in a stellar :14.
Stage 7 - Lunge Fish
This stage, along with stage 4, tends to wall me for some reason, I don't really know why. This time around Lungefish reduces more
than he usually does, both before I send my initial x3/4 block and while it's clearing, so that my subsequent x5/4 doesn't reach the
ceiling (seriously, what an ass - ending with only one complete row of non-garabage). I'm forced to send another combo
along while the computer slowly lets the final row rise, wasting time that definitely shouldn't've been wasted. I think I wasn't expecting
Lungefish to clear as much as he did and I don't make an effort to send more garbage
after my second barriage - and in addition I didn't want to delay the combo blocks in the second barrage. The hesitancy in sending the
final combo was my first really costly mistake of the run - about 3 seconds lost. The stage ends in a disheartening but still acceptable
Stage 8 - Raphael the Raven
My favorite character in the game : ] (not my favorite music though - Forest Stage for sure there). I believe this was the best luck I ever
got on Raphael with speedrunning in mind, recorded or not; he clears very consistently and tends to combo a lot during the initial
dozen seconds or so. This time he barely clears anything before I send my initial x3/4 block, which fills his entire playfield. After getting
a few easy matches while the initial garbage is clearing he stops near the bottom, enabling the pause after the garbage finishes clearing.
He then goes for a clear with the reds at the top, which is unfeasible for Raphael's speed level. Really great :16 here, and a good
example of how the segmented-chains strategy is effective.
Stage 9 - Hookbill Koopa
Unfortunately Hookbill busies himself with some small chains and doesn't clear until after I send my second round of garbage. :27 is a
pretty standard time for the Cave stages.
Stage 10 - Naval Piranha
Worst stage of the run here in terms of execution. I'm not exactly sure what my plan was at the start of the level, but I stupidly start off
by matching and not 4-comboing the purples, which leads to yellows that are positioned in a way deleterious of continuing the chain.
It's actually possible to switch the yellow on just the right frame so that the game recognizes it as 4-combo chain link 2, but I'm too
flustered to even come near pulling that off. Then later, after dropping the first chain-block, my second chain ends after link 3 due to
switching the light blue and green blocks instead of dropping the light blue onto the two greens. Thus my set of chain blocks ends up
being too small to cover Naval's entire field. After that my nerves fully kick in and I piddle around accomplishing nothing for a full 8
seconds or so. Eventually I send more garbage and Naval goes down in :34.
I'm honestly not sure whether he would've died at around :21 if I had sent just one or two more lines of garbage; it's hard to tell if enough non-buffer time passes before clearing, as he finds a clear pretty quickly after fully reducing. My guess is that he would've died, but I'll forgive myself since this was only the second instance that I got to the late stage of a speedrun while recording.
Stage 11 - Kamek
Though I make a mistake at :10 it wouldn't've made a difference in the final time, given the same execution by Kamek. I simply get bad
luck here, as Kamek has easy clears (I could've gotten a very quick kill if, say, Kamek had had another stack on the right to reduce
when my first garbage block fell) and starts a chain from a random block off the garbage (most annoying occurrence while specifically
speedrunning the game). I end up with a :36 through no fault of my own, which is quite heartbreaking given the extraordinary pace I
had going into the Cave, but not really bad enough to cause a restart so late in the run.
Stage 12 - Bowser!!!!
Bowser clears twice but the after-clearing pause does its job, and the run ends with a sound :24. As you can see I was quite eager for
the run to end and dick around praying for Bowser to not pull off a bunch of bullshit chaining.
Though the final time is a large improvement over the previous run, I'm not quite satisfied with both my performance and the time itself. I really get pretty lackluster luck in the Cave, which plain sucks, as I believe my time going into it had been my best ever for that point. In addition, while practicing the game unrecorded (on a TV with HD lag to boot!), I happened to get a ridiculously lucky run ending in sub-4:00. Though I could've kept going after I got this 4:19 run and tried to match the luck of that unrecorded run, I felt that 53 seconds was a good enough improvement for submission. One can only handle so much dedicated puzzle game running before offing oneself. My eventual target time is sub-3:45 - whence I will never look at a stage timer in this game again.
Thanks to the SDA management for running and maintaining the site. Thanks to Darkwing Duck for providing an enjoyable run and the framework for speedrunning it myself. I'll be there to take the record back when you beat this run :W
If you read through all of my long-winded and wordy comments, thank you! I hope you enjoy my first completed run!


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Power Stop rotors and pads
Finally did my first mod. My front break calipers locked up so I decided to just do new brakes all around. I went with the Power Stop cross drilled n slotted rotors with ceramic pads. I got a great deal on them at a local auto store.
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- 02-07-2011 08:17 PM - permalinkMrVampire181Haha I know the feeling.
- 02-07-2011 08:06 PM - permalinkbettalover2033Yea i am going to use it as a grow out tank in the future:).
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I feel so poor right now lol. - 02-07-2011 05:42 PM - permalinkMrVampire181AWESOME! Is that your new growout tank? Anyway $18 covers the cost of shipping, fish, and the cultures (a value of $2 per culture). I'm getting them Thursday!
- 02-07-2011 05:15 PM - permalinkbettalover2033uh well ok. i think i can send you about $18 (Possibly) im really not sure because i just got a 55 gallon tank and fish and plants and a whole set up, and my parents are not very giving with me right now because of all that.:/ so im really not sure.:/
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- 11-17-2010 01:47 PM - permalinkbettalover2033Also, M.R. V i thank you for messaging me because i havent been able to get on here so often because fry keep me busy plus school work. i now know that its easier to do it during summer because its just too hard. i love being on here so bad because its so much fun talking about breeding care and i miss seeing pictures and just browsing for a topic to read and start!:)
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Sports Editor's Playbook, Wednesday, Sept. 21, 2011
Patrick Newell
Jim Smith, a former Norwich teacher and coach, will be inducted into the Oswego High School Sports Hall of Fame on Oct. 1. While at Norwich, Smith coached the 1956 Norwich High School varsity boys basketball team to the overall Section III championship.
Smith, who passed away in the late 1980s, was a member of Oswego's 1941 championship football team and started on offense at center. Smith is being inducted as part of the 1941 team, a squad that gave up just seven points the entire season. Smith's children, Jim Smith, Mike Smith, Bill Smith, and Terri Jo Hawley were extended invitations to the banquet.
Jim Rebbeor, an organizer for the HOF banquet, contacted The Evening Sun Tuesday afternoon by e-mail requesting information about Jim Smith's family. He described Smith as a "local hero in the Oswego area." Rebbeor said that the 1941 football team produced school superintendents, school principals, doctors, and two young men gave their lives in World War II. "It was quite an outstanding group of men," Rebbeor said.
Many may not know that Smith served his country in World War II, and was held by the Germans for two years as a prisoner of war, said Mike Smith. "It's not something he talked about," Mike Smith said of his father.
Anyone else disappointed by Syracuse University's decision to leave the Big East for the ACC? The Orange were a charter member of the Big East, and I have lived and died for those rivalry games with Georgetown, St. John's, Villanova, and most recently, Connecticut the past three decades. Conferences used to be identified by their geographic location. Now, it's about solidifying power and creating more money-making opportunities. SU basketball coach, Jim Boeheim, is on board with the school administration's decision to leave home for the South, but he isn't an enthusiastic endorser. Boeheim said in a recent interview with ESPN that the decision (by SU) was about football and money. What? Since when was Syracuse football the school's marquis sports program? The team is coming off its first winning season (not including back-to-back .500 campaigns seven years ago) since 2001. Until last year, Syracuse had not won more than four games since those aforementioned six-win .500 seasons. We all know that Syracuse is known first for its men's basketball program where Boeheim's troops have made a home in the top 25 for decades. Boeheim lamented the loss of those long-standing rivalries, and instead will pick up teams such as Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, and Virginia Tech. We aren't apt to see any attendance records when those clubs visit the Dome. At least we have Boston College back on the docket, the one rivalry we Syracuse fans can look forward to.
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Over the last several weeks we've watched the Pentagon double timing in their efforts to get ahead of the fallout from the April 23rd meeting between anti-Christian activist Mikey Weinstein and senior Air Force officials. In the meeting, discussion surrounded a forthcoming Air Force policy on religious expression that Lt. Gen. Richard C. Harding said "will be a panacea to all religious issues." Many in the Christian community have sought to make sense of the Pentagon's confusing statements this past week — particularly the most troubling line: that "religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense." Coercion has always been prohibited. But another Air Force statement said "members are free to express their personal beliefs as long as it does not make others uncomfortable." Uncomfortable is obviously subjective. The Pentagon later claimed that evangelism is not included in their definition of proselytization.
However, a well-respected Rear Admiral as well as an avalanche of recent attacks on religious liberty in the uniformed services completely contradict the official line put out by the Pentagon. Yesterday, video was released of the speech given by Coast Guard Rear Admiral William Lee at the National Day of Prayer service on Capitol Hill. The Admiral boldly declared that he had disregarded the rules and gave a Bible to a service member who had attempted suicide. He went further and pledged not to abide by the restrictive regulations. To a standing ovation, Admiral Lee promised not to back down from "my right under the Constitution to tell a young man that there is hope."
After listening to his speech and reading the steady stream of reports about suppression of religious expression, I don't see how one can dismiss these concerns as rising from some kind of conspiracy theory being pushed by Christian groups. In reality, the concerns stated by Christians in the military are the result of an environment of increasing religious hostility that has been created by restrictive regulations at the behest of activists like Mikey Weinstein. Several weeks ago, Defense Secretary Hagel was grilled about them in a Congressional hearing — but said he knew nothing about it. A conspiracy? No. An environment created by Mikey Weinstein's influence over military regulations and compliant leaders? Yes.
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