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June 21, 2010
107 comments:
- traditionalguy said...
To Bork her makes some sense. She will be confirmed anyhow, but she will have to take a position or two in order to appear rational, not that there is anything wrong with using Rope a Dope tactics at the Senate Game Show.
- rdkraus said...
Forget Bork, Kagan herself says Borking is the best thing that can happen to constitutional law.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWMwZTJhMjNiN2FlZDc3ZjQ0MjdhYWRjZjQwNGQxNjQ= - 6/21/10, 1:56 PM
- Scott said...
Robert Bork was savaged in his confirmation hearings, but he did get one big consolation prize: His name became a verb.
Other than Capt. Charles Boycott, I can't think of many people who have been honored this way.
Although there should be a few people who COULD become verbs. What would happen to someone if they were Althoused? - 6/21/10, 2:01 PM
- Palladian said...
"Failed conservative Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork is joining anti-abortion activists to publicly oppose confirming Elena Kagan as a justice."
If Kagan gets Borked, will the AP refer to her as "failed liberal Supreme Court nominee"?
Hahaha! Ok, I'm sorry. This is a serious topic and I won't make any more ludicrous jokes like that. - 6/21/10, 2:06 PM
- Methadras said...
I don't think Kagan has ever been borked and if she has, well, giggity-giggity-goo, all right!!!
wv = suckn - 6/21/10, 2:11 PM
- Methadras said...
Scott said...
What would happen to someone if they were Althoused?
They already have. Does Michelle Goldberg come to mind perhaps? - 6/21/10, 2:13 PM
- Bruce Hayden said...
Awhile back, I thought that Kagan was unstoppable. But it is not as clear today. One thing against her is that she actually does have a paper trail, it is pretty voluminous, and much more radical than we had been led to believe.
Looking back, I think that she was a strategic blunder on the part of the Obama Administration. The problem is that pesky paper trail from when she worked for Clinton. Since Bork, both sides have seemed to pick nominees who had great credentials, but little paper trail. In other words, Stealth Candidates. I think that they figured they had one here, because she wasn't on the bench, and hadn't published much. But they forgot about her time working for Clinton. And that sort of track record is likely to be much more dangerous than if her record were based on judicial rulings, since the White House is inherently political, and so her memos, etc. there are turning out to be politically embarrassing. - 6/21/10, 2:14 PM
- MadisonMan said...
If Kagan is Borked, will the word become Bork-Kaganed? Or Kagan-Borked?
Scott, how about the Earl of Sandwich? Sandwich is a verb too, now, as in sandwiched between two linemen. - 6/21/10, 2:15 PM
- dbp said...
It will be tough for Republicans to Bork Kagan. The Democrats had a majority then and now. The only way to stop her is with a filibuster and that could come bake to bite them.
- rick said...
The Republicans will not Bork Kagan...much to my dismay.
They need to do just once - in honor of Ted Kennedy. They should treat her just Bork was treated by the party of love and compassion. Vilify her, dig up dirt on her, investigate what movies she watches, talk to her classmates....especially those who would speak in a derogatory terms about her....in other words Bork her.
It will never happen...that behavior is reserved for the other side of the aisle. - 6/21/10, 2:21 PM
- DKWalser said...
The only way to stop her is with a filibuster and that could come bake to bite them.
Because the Democrats have shown a reluctance to filibuster Republican nominees? There was an argument to be made that filibustering judicial nominees is inconsistent with the history and comity of the Senate. Republicans made that argument. It was rejected by the Democrats. Why should the Republicans now refrain from doing what was done to them. Will such restraint somehow obligate the Democrats to act differently in the future? I don't think so. - 6/21/10, 2:23 PM
- lemondog said...
If Kagan is Borked, will the word become Bork-Kaganed? Or Kagan-Borked?
Failed male Supreme Court nominee's will have been 'borked' while failed female Supreme Court nominee's will have been 'kaganed.' - 6/21/10, 2:25 PM
- Ron said...
Shouldn't all this Bork earn the Swedish Chef tag?
- R.L. Hunter said...
Methadras said...
Scott said...
What would happen to someone if they were Althoused?
They already have. Does Michelle Goldberg come to mind perhaps?
No, but Meade does ;-) - 6/21/10, 2:31 PM
- Trooper York said...
"Scott said...
Robert Bork was savaged in his confirmation hearings, but he did get one big consolation prize: His name became a verb.
Other than Capt. Charles Boycott, I can't think of many people who have been honored this way."
Did you forget Lord Douchebag? - 6/21/10, 2:37 PM
- edutcher said...
Bork was a good man and should be on the Court. Kagan seems to embody all the worst in Leftist judicial concepts and has no place there.
Going after Kagan isn't borking since borking involves maligning a good (wo)man and kaganning involves showing up an unfit person for whom (s)he is.
PS Damn, all the good lines are going early on this one. - 6/21/10, 2:39 PM
- Dead Julius said...
I think that Borking her would be sexual assault. She's a woman who has been blessed by Obama; even to speak against her means that you are EEEVVVUUULLL...
Besides, someone has to prove that the non-existent glass ceiling can be smashed by being super-duper nice and having friends in the right places. - 6/21/10, 2:44 PM
- TMink said...
Elections have consequences, America voted for Obama, so he should get his appointment. She is replacing Souter, so we are getting a liberal vote for a liberal vote. Big deal.
Trey - 6/21/10, 2:44 PM
- dmacdonald said...
How about a pulled Bork Sandwich!
- Scott said...
@Trooper York: Really. What was Lord Douchebag's first name? I think his mistress called him "Dicky," but his real Christian name escapes me.
@dmacdonald: You really ought to be pinched for that one. Really hard. :)
@Ron: Thank you for the obligatory Muppets Swedish Chef reference. Glad that's out of the way. - 6/21/10, 2:57 PM
- HDHouse said...
You of course are forgetting that according to some on here, we live in a country of minority rule. - 6/21/10, 3:07 PM
- rick said...
TMink said:
"Elections have consequences, America voted for Obama, so he should get his appointment."
Not to burst your bubble here Trey, but Bork was nominated by a Republican president. That did not stop Sens. Leaky and Flipper from their calculated character assassination. - 6/21/10, 3:18 PM
- HDHouse said...
ahh but Ric...I am sure you remember the Saturday night massacre into which our Mr. Bork stepped at Nixon's command.
All actions have consequences. - 6/21/10, 3:23 PM
- ricpic said...
In what way is Bork's intention to criticize Kagan the equivalent of the execrable Ted Kennedy's calumny against Bork when Kenndey rose in the Senate within minutes! of the announcement of Bork's nomination and spewed: Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizen's doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists would be censored at the whim of the government...?
To reread that speech is to have it brought home to you - if there is any decency in you that is - just how horrible liberals are. - 6/21/10, 3:25 PM
- JAL said...
Ha ha.
To quote Farley Mowat's buddy: "Good ideaa."
wv: medlied
Mmmmm .. . . - 6/21/10, 3:32 PM
- rick said...
Ahhh but HDH....that's why we need to dig up all the dirt...er info we can on Ms Kagan. I am sure there is some pure ugliness in her background. Repubs need to keep digging until something surfaces. (a little Chappaquiddick lingo there).
But not to worry - they won't. - 6/21/10, 3:33 PM
- virgil xenophon said...
re: "Borked" as a verb: There is always John (aka Thomas, aka *Sir*--although he wasn't) Crapper who improved--but did not originally invent--the flush toilet..
- Fen said...
If you havent seen this yet:
So you have to ask WHY? Why make it worse?...there really can only be one answer and that answer does not bode well for all of us. It's really an inescapable conclusion at this point, unless you want to believe that every Oil and Gas professional involved suddenly just forgot everything they know or woke up one morning and drank a few big cups of stupid and got assigned to directing the response to this catastrophe. Nothing makes sense unless you take this into account, but after you do...you will see the "sense" behind what has happened and what is happening. That conclusion is this:
The well bore structure is compromised "Down hole".
...the amount, the insane volumes, of gas and oil that could be released if this thing blows apart are truly of nightmare proportions...
...it will carry the oil spillage out into the Gulf stream and all the way up the eastern seaboard all the way to the UK and Europe where it ends. There will be who knows how many cubic feet of gas released into the atmosphere and the surrounding area with an untold amount of toxins
...the economic implications are dire...the fishing industry annihilated, beaches and tourism to them destroyed...and who knows what other effects there will be..it's a very very bad disaster to say the least...it's bad enough NOW...and THIS IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT MAY HAPPEN...and WILL HAPPEN if they cannot stop this thing
...you must get your head around that, nothing will stop this from blowing apart and going wide open if the rush of fluids cannot be halted, it is a CERTAINTY.
/via Instapundit
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2010/06/18/bp-oil-spill-worst-case-scenario.php - 6/21/10, 3:35 PM
- Roger J. said...
HD House--Bork's job as solicitor general was to enforce the law, just as Ms Kagan's as solicitor general is to enforce the law--she, and he, did not make the law; they were and are in the excutive branch and enforce the law.
- rick said...
HDH ....speaking of Chappaquiddick, some actions have no consequences.
Let me apologize for going off topic here. - 6/21/10, 3:37 PM
- themightypuck said...
As has been pointed out, the Republicans don't have the votes to Bork Kagan. Who since Abe Fortas has gotten filibustered?
- MadisonMan said...
Verbs, people, VERBS.
Stop putting up nouns. - 6/21/10, 3:41 PM
- A.W. said...
I wrote this over at Patterico, and i will reprint it, here:
> my take on Kagan is this.
> There's a funny line in the Abyss. The woman is trying to get everyone to believe she saw aliens, but she is understandably having trouble. Then "Hippie" pipes up and says, "oh, yeah, man its totally true. Roswell, chariots of the Gods, man!" (That's going on memory.)
> Well, he manages to make her stuff sound even loonier.
> She looks at "Hippie" and says, "Do me a favor. Stay off my side."
> Look, we can't hope for a conservative. So here's our second best option: a really terrible, not persuasive liberal.
> And that is Kagan. She moves the court to the right by being so bad at trying to get them to go left. that's why i don't oppose her. not because i think she is actually cut out for the job but because i know she is not, and am very glad for that fact
So naturally I oppose any attempt to Bork her. She is our best case scenario for conservatives. - 6/21/10, 3:50 PM
- Blue@9 said...
How can they Bork Kagan? Ted Kennedy can't make up a bunch of contemptible lies about her because he's dead.
- Fred4Pres said...
Maybe she has never been Borked and is curious about it?
- themightypuck said...
There are plenty of moderates (including me) who don't think much of Kagan because she seems so dull and lifeless.
- Sixty Grit said...
Come on people, let us not forget Charles Lynch.
- rollingdivision said...
Politely, calmly ask questions that match the intensity of those posed to Bork during his Senate hearings. Nothing more, nothing less.
- HDHouse said...
i won't argue that he did what he was told. My point though was that he would have been pounded on a lot less by some senators who had their fill of Nixon and Watergate stuff if he had taken a principled stand and resigned instead of obeying the order.
Your point is well taken and he was in a no win situation...and I frankly didn't feel all that bad about his nomination. - 6/21/10, 4:09 PM
- Pogo said...
I say go full metal Alinsky on her.
She's going to be seated. Might as well make the left own up to every piece of lefty bullshit she represents in the process. - 6/21/10, 4:16 PM
- victoria said...
Words from a bitter loser. Oh, an anti choice loser
Vicki from Pasadena - 6/21/10, 4:21 PM
- holdfast said...
Miranda - "I Mirandized the suspect"
- victoria said...
OH, BTW she is not replacing Souter, she is replacing John Paul Stevens. You are about a year too late, Tmink.
Vicki - 6/21/10, 4:23 PM
- victoria said...
Bitterness becomes you righties, as does losing.
Vicki - 6/21/10, 4:24 PM
- Pogo said...
People who lose their freedom are often bitter.
Go figure.
I should be more like you, and learn to love my master, and crave the pat on the head, and think not of all that I have lost, nor worry about the future my children face.
Rather, I should be more like Vicki, and embrace the vacuous acceptance of mediocrity and serfdom. - 6/21/10, 4:25 PM
- Pogo said...
Bitter is the new black.
- Trooper York said...
Bitter is better. But liquor is quicker. Just sayn'
- Pogo said...
No reason you can't indulge both.
Nothing succeeds like excess. - 6/21/10, 4:28 PM
- Trooper York said...
She can't be any worse than Stevens.
Ask tough questions and vote no but let this crap run it's course.
- Trooper York said...
But if you believe "In Excess" you end hanging from a shower curtain rod.
- Pogo said...
Better than going out David Carradine style.
- Trooper York said...
By the way, did you know that Judge Judy is beating Oprah in the ratings every week.
She is by far the most popular jurist in the nation.
Just goes to show ya! - 6/21/10, 4:31 PM
- John said...
re sandwich: He was a vile, vile man who stole the idea of putting a slice of meat between 2 of bread from the Earl of Shrewsbury.
If there was a bit more integretigy in the world, we would he eating shrewsburies for lunch instead of sandwiches.
(I miss Dick Summer)
John Henry - 6/21/10, 4:32 PM
- Trooper York said...
Well grasshopper was in the closet. Or at least found in the closet.
So to speak. That always complicates things. - 6/21/10, 4:33 PM
- Ralph L said...
Gerrymander was creating by combining Governor Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts with salamander. It made a stinky stew.
Democrats blamed Bork for the Saturday Night Massacre, but that action was the beginning of the end for Nixon politically, so they should have thanked him. The prig Richardson and his deputy had made the necessary point. And it was a lawful order. - 6/21/10, 4:33 PM
- Trooper York said...
John Henry said....
"I miss dick Summer"
That's what Titus is having now that he's married. - 6/21/10, 4:34 PM
- c3 said...
I am sure you remember the Saturday night massacre into which our Mr. Bork stepped at Nixon's command.
All actions have consequences.
Surely there must be a rule/law similar to Godwin' Law regarding Nixon. - 6/21/10, 4:35 PM
- Ralph L said...
Sandwich was that horror of Victorian heiresses, a gamester. Too addicted to leave the card table for a proper meal.
- John said...
Christopher Buckley is a wonderfully funny writer. One of his recent books was "Supreme Mischief".
The president (who is a pretty interesting character in the book)nominates a justice who is Borked out of the office on some piddling grounds. He nominates a second and he is Borked as well.
He then nominates Pepper Martin(?) who is a Judge Judy clone. She actually gets confirmed by refusing to take the BS during the confirmation hearings.
there is then some mischief that goes on in the court, Pepper resolves the problem, marries one of the other justices and all live happily ever after.
Great beach or airplane reading.
I'll recommend all of Buckley's books. They are all good.
John Henry - 6/21/10, 4:39 PM
- victoria said...
Are you saying, pogo that all righties have lost their power, or just Bork. He doesn't look powerless to me. He looks the way he always does, an arrogant, small minded angry man. Thank god he didn't make it on the court.
I don't accept the boring and the mediocre. That is why I live and vote with my conscience. I am even considering voting for Meg Whitman in November for governor. She is my kind of Republican, fiscally conservative, socially liberal. I actually think she would be a good shot in the arm for California. Finally, a woman in charge. 'Bout time. Wouldn't vote for Fiorina if she were the only candidate running. Her abuses and firings at HP and other companies are legendary. She is a shill for the far right and I wouldn't believe one word that comes out of her mouth.
Vicki from Pasadena - 6/21/10, 4:40 PM
- Pogo said...
No, I am saying that all citizens have lost their power, having ceded it to the Democrat-Teachers union-SEIU-ACORN socialists.
- Pogo said...
"I am even considering voting for Meg Whitman in November for governor. "
California is a bankrupt state taken over by illegals, potsmokers, high-spenders, and airheaded liberals (but I repeat myself).
The best thing a Californian can do is move out. - 6/21/10, 4:49 PM
- Trooper York said...
I am considering buying the Slim Whitman collection but they aren't doing those late night commercials anymore.
What's up with that? Now all I can do is get debt relief and a "Shamwow." - 6/21/10, 4:56 PM
- Pogo said...
Slim Whitman would be a great California governor, not least of which because, even though his career is dead, he can yodel like nobody's business.
If all he did was yodel and passed not a single new tax, Californians would be better off. - 6/21/10, 5:01 PM
- Eric said...
You of course are forgetting that according to some on here, we live in a country of minority rule.
Yeah, I know. Corporations rule America, right House? - 6/21/10, 5:11 PM
- Big Mike said...
I think that Kagan should get an opportunity "to participate in the best thing to ever happen to constitutional democracy" from both sides of the issue.
- Cedarford said...
TMink said...
Elections have consequences, America voted for Obama, so he should get his appointment. She is replacing Souter, so we are getting a liberal vote for a liberal vote. Big deal
Mink is in a timewarp. Sotomayor replaced the stealth liberal a year ago.
Dems managed to knock out Douglas Ginsburg and Bork after Reagan's landslide 1984 victory - so much for the theory stated whenever a President is in office that elections have consequences. That only applies to Democrats, by their rules.
A filibuster would be a good idea to help flush out the writings of Kagan..pin her down. It would also serve as a reminder that Obama favors only Harvard and Yale products, that he will add 2 more to make for 5 NYC people on the Court. The goal would be to make Obama look worse, not ultimately block Kagan.
The religious/cultural argument is more discrete, but it will also be on people's minds.
1. 3 Liberal Jews, no moderate Protestants on the Court.
2. All members coming from just two elite private universities.
3. Only one Justice from the South, 1 from the Midwest, no one West of the Mississippi save Californians.
Dems managed to damage Bush when he tried getting two loyal hacks on SCOTUS - Alberto Gonzales and Harriet Miers. Even when he had the votes - he was forced to drop Alberto for Roberts and Miers for Alito....which was good for the country. - 6/21/10, 5:11 PM
- Pogo said...
"What's up with that? Now all I can do is get debt relief and a "Shamwow.""
Don't they show the 'Extenze' commercials in NYC?
That's a real shame.
Debt relief, Shamwow, and Extenze.
Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff. - 6/21/10, 5:12 PM
- Trooper York said...
They should elect the guy you invented the Yodel.
That was someone who really did something worthwhile. - 6/21/10, 5:13 PM
- TMink said...
Rick, my bubble is still intact! What was done to Bork was bad for the country and basically a long list of lies. Nothing good ever comes from a long list of lies, not even in politics where the practice is habitual.
What was done to Bork was unconstitutional in my eyes, and we on the right would do best to NEVER engage in such lies and manipulations. They lead to destruction.
Trey - 6/21/10, 5:13 PM
- Pogo said...
I think they should just ask Kagan Do you now or have you ever played softball?
- TMink said...
Vicky: DOH! You are of course correct, thanks for setting me straight. Stevens is a big lib, so this is just same brand of tires with less wear on them as far as I see it.
Trey - 6/21/10, 5:18 PM
- MadisonMan said...
This made me laugh. Thanks trooper. I keep hearing it said just like in those commercials for the movie.
wv: wineso - 6/21/10, 5:21 PM
- TMink said...
Cedarford, we agree about many things. Then you bring up the Jews and it feels like I can't agree with you on anything. Peace pal.
Trey - 6/21/10, 5:21 PM
- rick said...
I am not suggesting lies and manipulations, just an honest grilling maybe say ...similar to the abuse Tony Hayward faced last week.
To your point that lies and manipulations lead to destruction, it certainly had not destroyed the Democrats. Of course they have willing accomplices in the media. - 6/21/10, 5:25 PM
- TMink said...
Rick, a tough hearing is no problem with me!
While the Democratic party is doing well for now, look how their lies have hurt us and our country. Their chickens are looking for a place to roost, and 2010 and 2012 may be very interesting for them.
Trey - 6/21/10, 5:39 PM
- rhhardin said...
He looks the way he always does, an arrogant, small minded angry man.
I myself am small-minded, but not angry. - 6/21/10, 5:55 PM
- Trooper York said...
You freak me out Rh.
- victoria said...
Please, Rick. You don't think that Hayward deserved the grilling, from the left and right I might add.This is no shakedown and if you believe that poor little PB is being taken advantage of well.... we will have to examine you IQ tests to be sure they were scored correctly.
Vicki - 6/21/10, 6:16 PM
- lyssalovelyredhead said...
Vicki said: I don't accept the boring and the mediocre. That is why I live and vote with my conscience.
What does what is boring and mediocre have to do with your conscience? If something is boring and/or mediocre, it violates your conscience? That makes no sense.
- Lyssa - 6/21/10, 6:25 PM
- lyssalovelyredhead said...
I agree with A.W.- she's so weak that she's better than we who actually want to follow the Constitution could have hoped for.
That said, I want to see her confirmed, but I'd love to see it be tough. Get her on record about the limits of the commerce clause, or lack of limits- there's simply no way a liberal can answer it, and she's likely to professor it up, which will only make it worse.
Then, in 2012, let's use it to remind people that, in an Obama world, the Constitution is meaningless.
- Lyssa - 6/21/10, 6:30 PM
- rick said...
IQ? I would have expected better of you.
Your point was covered in another post...but let me repeat:
BP is going to pay through the nose. And they should. The $20B will be small change when this is finished.
However the treatment of Hayward was shameful. Our country is better than that. He was paraded up in front of congress to be a human pinata. One congress critter asked him "if it was Thursday?" Shameful.
I am not defending him...I am assailing his treatment.
I'll bet the Brits are impressed. - 6/21/10, 6:37 PM
- Beta Rube said...
If you're going to Bork her, use a conundrum.
- New said...
It is over for GOP when they resort to tricks. Face it. Kagan is the next Justice. Obama/Biden till 2016. GOP loses the House, the Senate, and Statehouses. No one likes the GOP, no press, no tv, no radio, etc. Who loves the GOP? No one. Not even Republicans. It is over. Q. E. D.
- Jason (the commenter) said...
Forget Borking her, I say we Bjork her!
- Old Dad said...
Well, I guess if a private citizen's opposition to a USOC nomination by a President whose party holds a large majority in the Senate is equivalent to the well orchestrated lynching of a nomination by a lame duck President whose party was in the minority, then Borking it is. Bork away.
- Cedarford said...
TMink said...
Cedarford, we agree about many things. Then you bring up the Jews and it feels like I can't agree with you on anything. Peace pal.
Just because I have beefs with some groups of Jews, doesn't mean I don't like and respect individual Jews. Like you...
Same holds true with Muslims and Leftists.
Muslims, as a group, can be problematic. But the individual ones I know, while they would fuck up this country beyond recognition if they ever amassed significant power - are by and large, decent well-educated and civilized people.
Liberals? Well, I think most cannot help themselves.
PS - 3 liberal Jews on the Court is too much, just for that. 5 from NYC Metro is too much. 9 from Yale-Harvard is too much. - 6/21/10, 7:55 PM
- bagoh20 said...
A.W. said: "Look, we can't hope for a conservative. So here's our second best option: a really terrible, not persuasive liberal."
That's an example of Althousing.
It's a political strategy that is claimed in order deflect criticism about one being Obamaed. - 6/21/10, 8:38 PM
- themightypuck said...
I once saw an interview between Bork and PJ O'Rourke and was not sad the dude didn't get appointed. He seemed real weird and off putting.
- rick said...
Sixty Grit said
"Come on people, let us not forget Charles Lynch."
Your mention of Lynch(ing) brings to mind another Supreme Court nominee who, in his words, was subject to "a high tech lynching".
That would be Clarence Thomas.
Need I state who orchestrated this lynching? - 6/21/10, 8:52 PM
- rick said...
I'll bet PJ O'Rourke was great.
- Scott said...
"It is over for GOP when they resort to tricks."
You know, I've never figured that out. How can Democrats resort to tricks, bullying, dissembling, character assassination and other repugnant behavior, breaking the law, and lies, lies, lies, lies, and more lies -- but it's never over for them? - 6/21/10, 9:18 PM
- JAL said...
@vicki from pasadena Finally, a woman in charge.
pretty sexist comment there, vicki. - 6/21/10, 9:41 PM
- JAL said...
v from p: I don't accept the boring and the mediocre. That is why I live and vote with my conscience.
Look in the mirror, repeat three times. Twice daily until November. - 6/21/10, 9:46 PM
- A.W. said...
its not a head fake or deflect. It is just saying, we are not going to get the conservative we want. Its just not going to happen. So the best we can hope for is a liberal who harms their own cause.
And Kagan is on record with that. That's what she did in Citizen's United. She turned what might have been a narrow victory for her side, or a narrow defeat for her side, and turned it into a major rout for her side. And thus a victory for freedom of speech.
Why? Because she articulated a defense of the law that would allow congress to ban books. Talk about tin eared! This is her pattern, go so big for liberalism that she alienates anyone who might have gone a little her way. - 6/21/10, 10:02 PM
- bagoh20 said...
I understand, but as with Ann's reasoning with Obama, there is the big question of: is it worth it?
Like Obama, Kagan may do substantial damage. Being able to say "I told you so" may not be much consolation afterward. Kagan will likely get a deciding vote in a substantial number of bad decisions over the course of her decades as a Supreme Court Justice. - 6/21/10, 10:15 PM
- former law student said...
When Nixon said "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest? (Archibald Cox), Richardson resigned rather than fire the independent prosecutor, then Ruckelshaus resigned rather than fire the independent prosecutor, but Bork was loyal to Tricky Dick, stayed on the job, and fired Cox.
So what did Kagan do to match Bork's record? - 6/21/10, 11:15 PM
- former law student said...
Need I state who orchestrated this lynching?
A former employee, Anita Hill. - 6/21/10, 11:18 PM
- Methadras said...
victoria said...
Are you saying, pogo that all righties have lost their power, or just Bork. He doesn't look powerless to me. He looks the way he always does, an arrogant, small minded angry man. Thank god he didn't make it on the court.
I don't accept the boring and the mediocre. That is why I live and vote with my conscience. I am even considering voting for Meg Whitman in November for governor. She is my kind of Republican, fiscally conservative, socially liberal. I actually think she would be a good shot in the arm for California. Finally, a woman in charge. 'Bout time. Wouldn't vote for Fiorina if she were the only candidate running. Her abuses and firings at HP and other companies are legendary. She is a shill for the far right and I wouldn't believe one word that comes out of her mouth.
Vicki from Pasadena
You know, I was going to say something really snide, snarky, and nasty to you, but then I thought to myself, why should I bother, when you are a gift that keeps on giving. Even the rope is looping itself at the pleasure of having your neck inserted within it. - 6/21/10, 11:28 PM
- Fen said...
Libtard: Oh, an anti choice loser
Libtard CHOOSES to have sex
Libtard CHOOSES to use birth control with the knowledge that its not 100% effective
Libtard CHOOSES to take that risk anyway
Libtard then whines about "anti-choice"
And yes, Libtard needs sex so bad she is willing to kill for it. - 6/22/10, 4:02 AM
- rick said...
FLS said "A former employee, Anita Hill."
Ms.Hill was played like a fiddle... - 6/22/10, 5:30 AM
- HDHouse said...
Scott said...
"You know, I've never figured that out. How can Democrats resort to tricks, bullying, dissembling, character assassination and other repugnant behavior, breaking the law, and lies, lies, lies, lies, and more lies"
Dick Cheney teaching the course this fall? Followed by Rush's course on family values and ending with Beck on the glories of 30s national socialism. ....
ahhhh the free air of academia. - 6/22/10, 8:14 AM
- TMink said...
Cedarford, I am a Tennessee redneck from poor Scotch-Irish people. But my way of thinking is that my racial background matters less than my character.
Trey - 6/22/10, 8:23 AM
- former law student said...
Libtard CHOOSES to have sex
No woman should have sex with a right-winger unless she's performed his vasectomy herself. - 6/22/10, 8:38 AM
- rick said...
FLS said: "No woman should have sex with a right-winger unless she's performed his vasectomy herself."
There you go again.....denying someone's right to choose. I know you are being facetious here, but it is telling that libs everywhere are in favor of denying choices.
As Obamacare is implemented, you will see a whole host of choices being eliminated....from choice of doctor to choice of treatment. - 6/22/10, 8:50 AM
- Big Mike said...
After the Bork, Thomas, and Alito hearings, I think that Republicans need to grab the Democrats by the scruff of their worthless, slimy necks and drag them to stare over the edge of the abyss.
Translating the metaphor above for Democrats and other creatures of ignorance, Republicans played nicey-nicey with the Democrats over Ginsburg and the consequence was Alito's wife stumbling from the confirmation hearings in tears. Democrats are like teenagers -- too stupid to learn execpt from bitter experience. The Republicans need to make an example of a Supreme Court nominee, and having blown their chance with Sotomayor they need to unload on Kagan, but good. - 6/22/10, 8:55 AM
- Skookum John said...
Here's some eponymous or semi-eponymous verbs:
Bork, boycott, lynch, sandwich, fisk, bowdlerize, galvanise, jacuzzi, gerrymander, guillotine, hoover, tannoy, mesmerize, pasteurize, shrapnel, silhouette, degauss, daguerrotype, macadam/tarmac, molotov, gerrymander, zamboni, bogart, mirandize, hector, simonize.
In specialized fields you find more, e.g. fourier and laplace in math, lutz and salchow in skating, or doppler and valsalva in medicine.
Morse, marconi and roentgen got some use in the long ago, but not currently.
Madoff may yet be verbed. - 6/22/10, 2:40 PM


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Released: 2012, Unique Leader Records Rating: 3.5/5 Reviewer: Metal-Rules.com UK Team Beneath, an Icelandic five piece death metal band whose album "Enslaved by Fear" is one that instantly delights the more extreme side of music fan. Waste no time with the opening track "As god's walk the earth" which has the instantaneously recognisable piercingly fast drum beats, enough to make your jaw instantly drop with how heavy the opening track really is, with styling's that sound like Nile and Kataklysm the opening track is brutally stunning. The album continues in the same extreme vein with "Lies of the dead" Which focuses more on the crunch of slow guitars with accompanying fret tapping that flow in sounding more Gojira-influenced in harmonics. Which sets up the way for the albums' title track Enslaved by fear" which is a collage of impressively sliced and arrange guitar licks with a beautiful clean interlude at about two minutes in gives the listener not only a head banging break but really sets up the velocity of the tracks integrity to the max. "No one above" and "Heretics" follow up, being the shortest tracks on the album they are the perfect mid-album bridges to the next portion, as exploration of the band's signature guitar work roams free during "Heretics". "Bloodlust" welcomes the deep cavern of despair vocals back again with the growl that means business as the song chugs along with more melody and noticeably more complicated bass lines. The album's stream of constant darker guitar work takes a delightfully welcomed break with "Writhe" which has the perfect complimentary dose of clean looping guitar sounds and machine gun drumming. Soon enough however the deeper tones return with the penultimate track "monolith" Which is a slow burner with the deep guitar tones, and feedback ringing over the sound waves. "Sacrificial Ritual" is unfortunately over before it starts as it speeds through the track, demanding an instant re-listen as the album ends with an Yyrkoon styled track. The album, overall is a beautifully brutal slice of Icelandic metal. Review by Ashlinn Nash
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The 2012 Fisker Karma has an electric range of 32 miles, the EPA says.
Fisker Karma gets EPA certification
October 19, 2011
Fisker Automotive received its U.S. Environmental Protection Agency certification this week, which means sales of the 2012 Karma sedan can begin.
The Karma is a series plug-in hybrid, powered by a lithium-ion battery and a 2.0-liter range-extending gasoline engine. The engine only turns a generator to provide electricity and charge the battery.
The all-electric range was found by the EPA to be 32 miles under its criteria. That's less than the 50-mile range Fisker claimed earlier this year. Still, the company calculates that a Karma driver who has a 40-mile commute and starts each day with a full battery would need to visit the gas station only once every 1,000 miles. They would use about nine gallons per month, according to Fisker.
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All the druggies on here said the reason legalization was needed was to bring down the cost of all illegal drugs.
A decade ago, $300 was a decent price, but $350-$400 was not uncommon. $250 was about the bottom $ on an ounce. Factor in inflation and $400 an ounce today isn't that ridiculous.
All the druggies on here said the reason legalization was needed was to bring down the cost of all illegal drugs
quote:I'm not making this up.
As long as we're making shite up.....
I'm not making this up.
quote:I'm doing neither. Sorry if your jimmies are rustled.
You're doing one of two things, you're either making it up or you're cherry-picking one asinine argument out of a sea of good ones.
quote:You need to expand your reading horizons.
I've never seen anyone say that it would cause prices to drop.
quote:You obviously don't comprehend the definition of 'straw man argument.'
What I have seen are a bunch of jackasses making straw-man arguments like the one in your first post.
quote:I have no idea. What do you think?
Do you, as a champion financial guru, believe that prices will drop after the initial onslaught of purchases?
quote:Well those posts are not incorrect, in theory. From a macro-level perspective, legalization would mean cheaper "illegal" pot, and more expensive "legal" pot. It's pretty basic, and this news falls right in line with it.
There have been numerous threads on the O-T and the Poli Board where the drug users have repeatedly claimed legalization would bring down the cost of illegal drugs. Those were not isolated posts.
don't they just burn all that stuff anyway?
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Petalburg City is located in the southwest of Hoenn, west from Oldale Town where the player meets his second rival, Wally. To the north of the city is the Petalburg Woods.
The Gym Leader of Petalburg City is the protagonist's father, Norman, who uses Normal-type Pokémon. The player may only battle Norman after collecting the first four gym badges in Hoenn.
In the anime, Norman, the Petalburg City gym leader, is the father of May and Max. Petalburg City is the hometown of them and Caroline, Norman's wife and the mother of May and Max.
Pokémon Appearances
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokémon | Habitat | Rarity |
Marill | Water | Common |
Magikarp | Fishing (Old Rod, Good Rod) | Common |
Goldeen | Fishing (Old Rod, Good Rod) | Uncommon |
Corphish | Fishing (Super Rod) | Common |
Item | Amount | How to get? |
Balance Badge | 1 | Defeat Gym Leader Norman. |
Ether | 1 | Surf the pond in the city. |
HM03 Surf | 1 | Obtain from Wally's Dad after defeating Norman. |
Max Revive | 1 | Surf the pond in the city. |
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Obtain from Norman after defeating him.
Across from the ether |
Poké Mart Merchandise
Here is the list of items sold in the Poké Mart in Petalburg City.
Item | Price | Descriptions |
Poké Ball | 200 | A tool for catching Pokémon. |
Potion | 300 | Restores the HP of a Pokémon by 20 points. |
Antidote | 100 | Heals a poisoned Pokémon. |
Parlyz Heal | 200 | Heals a paralyzed Pokémon. |
Awakening | 250 | Awakens a sleeping Pokémon. |
Escape Rope | 550 | Use to escape instantly from a cave or a dungeon. |
Repel | 350 | Repel keeps away weak wild Pokémon for 100 steps. |
X Speed | 350 | Raises the stat speed during one battle. |
X Attack | 500 | Raises the stat attack during one battle. |
X Defend | 550 | Raises the stat defense during one battle. |
Orange Mail | 50 | A Zigzagoon-print mail to be held by a Pokémon. |
Extra Items for Pokémon Emerald | ||
Item | Price | Descriptions |
Great Ball | 600 | Easier to catch a Pokémon than Poké Ball. |
Super Potion | 700 | Restores the HP of a Pokémon by 50 points. |
Petalburg City Gym
Norman is the 5th Gym leader in Hoenn and uses Normal-type Pokémon. It is recommended to use Fighting-type moves to tackle his Pokémon. You can only battle him after you get four badges. The Petalburg Gym is set up as a series of rooms. Each room contains a Trainer who specializes in a way of battling. A sign of each door explains what kind of tactics to expect from the Trainer just beyond.
You need to battle at least three trainers to reach Norman, but it is recommended that you battle all to train your Pokémon. Norman has a team of strong Normal-type Pokémon.
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
Pokémon | Level | Type 1 | Type 2 |
Slaking | 28 | Normal | - |
Vigoroth | 30 | Normal | - |
Slaking | 31 | Normal | - |
Money: 3100 (all versions)
Pokémon Emerald
Pokémon | Level | Type 1 | Type 2 |
Vigoroth | 27 | Normal | - |
Slaking | 31 | Normal | - |
Spinda | 27 | Normal | - |
Linoone | 29 | Normal | - |
After you defeated Norman, you will receive the Balance Badge. This badges increases your Pokémon's Defense and allows you to use HM03 Surf on the field. He also gives you TM42 Facade.
Blocked Route 104
You can't access Route 104 unless you visit the Petalburg City Pokémon Gym and help out Wally to catch his own Pokémon. After you have done that, you can then access to Route 104.
(Pokémon Emerald only) Before you walk out to Route 104, you will see a man in glasses walking to you and then talk to you. Then he walks off. He is Scott, the owner of the Battle Frontier. If you have completed the game, he will acknowledge you and allow you to participate the Battle Frontier challenge.
Visit the Gym
Your father owns the Petalburg Gym and be sure to visit it. Your father will not battle you unless you own four badges. He then offers you a word of encouragement and sends you on your way. So come back to him when you acquired four Gym Badges.
Wally is somebody you encounter throughout your adventures in Hoenn. Wally is about to go to Verdanturf Town, but your father thinks he should have a Pokémon to keep him company. Accompany Wally to Route 102 to catch his first Pokémon, Ralts. After catching it, he will thank you and gone off to his destination.
Creating a Profile
Visit the Pokémon Center and meet the man next to the computer. This fellow is interested in your exploits and would love to hear all about them. From a collection of available words, assemble a brief profile of yourself and tell it to the man.
Obtain HM03 Surf
After defeating the Gym Leader Norman, visit Wally's Dad to receive HM03 Surf. This move allows your Pokémon to learn how to surf the sea and you can use it to travel the water bodies of Hoenn.


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As we continue to recover from the worst recession since the 1930s, it appears that most industries have relegated service to the back seat. But not housing. The home building industry has done an incredible job improving its customer satisfaction over the past six years.
Home buyer satisfaction surveys, conducted by AVID Ratings, reveal that the home building industry has improved its annual Total Home Buyer Experience Score by 7 points from 2005–2009. This statistic is backed by J.D. Power and Associates, which also cites year-over-year improvements in the industry. However, compared to other industries that have also faced severe financial stress—such as the banking, airline, and auto industries—the housing industry's customer satisfaction scores are even more impressive.
The American Customer Satisfaction Index (ACSI), the national barometer of customer satisfaction across industries, reports that the airline industry is down 2 points in customer satisfaction since 2005 (and down 11.1 since the index's inception). The index shows the banking industry as flat since 2005, but down 3.75 points since 2009 for the big-four financial institutions. Meanwhile, the auto industry is up 4 points, but Toyota is down 1 point since 2005. (Go to www.builderonline.com/business to view charts on these industries.)
Data aside, personal experiences confirm the numbers. Recently, I was at my local bank and noticed it had introduced a new, higher interest rate savings program, but the bank prohibited switching existing funds into it. I asked, "So, if I cancel my account and redeposit my money, then I get the good rate?" The bank manager said, "I guess so." How smart is this new rate program in maintaining customer loyalty? Well, I am in the process of switching to a competitor that is offering double my bank's "special" rate. Interestingly, were it not for this customer-unfriendly program, I would never have found the better rate elsewhere. Another real-life anecdote illustrates why Toyota's woes should be a warning to those in management who think they can skimp on service and still leap ahead. My wife and I decided it was time to trade in our eight-year-old car and perhaps cash in on all the discounts in the auto industry. We visited numerous dealers, including Toyota, looking for a mid-size SUV that could tow more than 7,000 pounds. This limited our choices, but the Toyota representative insisted we could tow that weight with a Highlander (which happened to be the special that month). I was horrified at his suggestion because I had already studied the factory specifications, which clearly state a 5,000-pound limit for the Highlander.
Overall, this was the worst dealer experience we had. Notwithstanding my disappointments in vehicle quality, I believe Toyota's world-class company culture is broken. On the bright side, we did find an honest customer-centric salesperson and a quality-built vehicle at a Honda/Acura dealership, where we eventually bought our car.
I believe the current recession has caused a massive reversion to poor service, except for housing. It's almost like some companies have given their employees license to treat customers poorly in the name of making the budget. However, great service is about showing customers how much you care—in policy and in action.
What does all of this mean for us in housing? On many fronts—especially service—the bar has been raised, and with it the barrier to entry. Keep up the good work, and don't lose your way amid shrinking budgets! Keep service as a primary goal of your company and celebrate service excellence as you did before hard times struck the economy. This too shall pass, and the reputation you maintain is fundamental to defining your long-term success.
Housing is a local business that can turn quickly, and recovering from a soiled reputation isn't easy or always possible. That's why quality builders have such an incredible advantage.


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2011 Annual Report
1a. Objectives (from AD-416)
To determine genetic differences between the Tunis/Barbarine sheep in the US and Tunisia and compare phenotypic performance of the progeny sired by Tunisian and US rams.
1b. Approach (from AD-416)
During the 1800's Barbarine sheep from Tunisia were imported to the US as gifts from that government. This breed, now called Tunis in the US, has been maintained as a relatively pure breed in the eastern part of the US. However, its population is relatively small with only 700 animals registered in 2000. In a genetic distancing study performed by NAGP it was determined that the present Tunis are unique compared to other US and Kazakhstan breeds. This result has led us to the following question: how different have the Tunis sheep become from the Barbarine sheep in Tunisia, and how does their phenotypic performance vary for economically important traits? Cooperators will determine the genetic distance between the Tunis and Barbarine. Genetic distances for 28 US breeds have already been completed, therefore the same set of genetic markers will be used on samples from Tunisian Barbarine sheep and the results will be merged with the US results for analysis. The National Gene Bank in Tunisia has the laboratory capabilities to conduct the needed laboratory work on the Barbarine. The analysis of the merged data will be performed jointly by ARS/NAGP and Tunisian scientists. Cooperators will also collect and cryopreserve semen from US Tunis sheep for exportation to Tunisia. This will require the assimilation of Tunis rams at a central facility for quarantine, collection and cryopreservation. NAGP and Virginia State University in Petersburg, VA have facilities which can be used for the described purposes. NAGP staff will cryopreserve the ram semen. Ten rams for this study will either be purchased or borrowed from Tunis breeders known to maintain breed purity (contacts with US breeders have already been established). The cryopreserved semen will be shipped to Tunisia where it will be inseminated into synchronized ewes. Either a NAGP or VSU scientist (or other trained professional) will assist with the inseminations. A like number of Barbarine rams will be mated to ten ewes each. The performance of the resulting progeny will be compared for phenotypic traits, such as, birth weight, weaning weight, growth rates, and wool characteristics. The anticipated results from this project are multiple. Quantification of the genetic similarity or dissimilarity between the Tunis and Barbarine sheep that will increase our understanding about gene flow between countries and how imported populations are subject to genetic drift and selection pressure over time. Understanding the genetic differences will assist ARS and the National Gene Bank of Tunisia in knowing if there are genes of interest in the Barbarine/Tunis sheep populations. The phenotypic comparison of performance traits will serve to inform breeders of both countries of the potential for exchanging genetic resources. The project will strengthen the collaboration between ARS/NAGP and scientists at the National Gene Bank of Tunisia, a process started during the ARS sponsored workshop in 2009.
3. Progress Report
DNA from U.S. Tunis sheep has been extracted and sent to Tunisia for laboratory analysis via the FAO panel of microsatellites for sheep. This analysis has been combined with the Barbarine samples from Tunisia. The results of the laboratory analysis have been reviewed by scientists in both countries and it was determined some genotyping errors had occurred. These are currently being rectified so that the statistical analysis can proceed. Work on correcting the allele calls will proceed. ADODR monitoring for this project was done via email and phone.
4. Accomplishments


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EASTPORT, Maine, Sunday—With Korean war news telling of difficulties these last few days, I am chiefly worried because I know we are less likely to accept diplomatic talks when, things are not coming our way. For the sake of Korea and Asia and of the USSR itself, I would like to see the North Koreans back at the starting line so that talks could go on around a table and not on battlefields.
Every day that we fight, bitterness grows among our people and we hold the government of the Soviets responsible. When you see our workers refusing to unload goods because they come from the USSR and our ship lines deciding not to carry Soviet goods, then we are getting aroused. We are slow to anger and I had always hoped that our opening wedge of understanding might be through trade, since we enjoy new and adventuresome business. But we are feeling more and more that the Soviets want war and confusion in the world and that only overwhelming force will prevent their aggressive attitude. We can build force, but we would rather spend our substance on making the lives of people happier and easier.
I was shocked to hear the recent statements made by a Republican Senator about Secretary of State Acheson. It would seem that partisanship was making the Senator forget the real instigator of trouble in Korea. In addition he was putting responsibility for certain conditions on one man, when the legislative branch should carry equal responsibility with the executive branch of the government. Those who so often banded together to defeat administration policies must bear some of the responsibility also, and not try to blame any one man or even any one party.
August 19 was the eightieth birthday of a great citizen of the United States. Bernard M. Baruch has served his country in many ways, in times of war and in times of peace. He has earned respect and gratitude from his fellow citizens, who trust his integrity and his judgment. He could rest on his laurels, secure in a good name and a worthy place in history, but instead he is putting his major effort now into a great new hospital where the handicapped people who have become his greatest concern can receive the treatment which may make life worth living for them. Few of us can do anything for Bernard Baruch, but those of us who have the honor to count him our friend can wish him many more years of usefulness in which to serve his fellow men. So, here is my heartfelt wish for health and happiness in the years to come.
Our two little boys have played Indians all way with headbands of gauze and feathers stuck all around their heads. This is ideal country for any imaginative child. The pines grow tall and the branches reach to the ground. The alder bushes make an impenetrable underbrush. The fog which has been blowing in and out ever since our arrival makes everything mysterious to those who are living as the children do, in a world of make-believe. Sometimes I think it would be good for grownups to dream they were living in the kind of world they really wanted. Even Mr. Malik of the Soviet Union might try to make it a reality.


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In a packed room before thousands of neurologists,
As expected, the data show their medicine, bapineuzumab (b-mab for short), showed a significant benefit among the minority of Alzheimer's patients who don't have a gene mutation called APOE4. In patients without this mutation, b-mab slowed by five points cognitive decline in those patients' performance on a commonly used survey, the ADAS-COG. Existing drugs such as Aricept generally slow decline by two to three points on this scale.
But b-mab didn't help the 65% of patients who have the APOE4 mutation, perhaps because of greater incidence of a side effect–fluid leakage in the brain–in those patients. Patients on the drug also experienced back pain, vomiting, anxiety, weight loss and hypertension. And in all patients combined, the small improvements seen over a placebo were not statistically significant.
"Maybe, maybe, maybe [it works], but I am not convinced," says British Alzheimer's researcher John Hardy, who helped come up with the basic idea behind the drug. "I'm worried they are just looking at noise."
He noted that almost all of the analyses presented at the meeting looked at subgroups of patients and were not planned in advance. Such after-the-fact analyses are considered the statistical equivalent of moving the goalposts after you have taken a shot at the goal. The trial was negative for the overall group of patients. After hours, Elan
Nonetheless, Georgetown University neurologist Scott Turner called the results "very exciting. … This is a bigger magnitude of effect compared to the drugs we have currently."
Underpinning the debate about b-mab's effectiveness is a question: whether the theory behind the drug is true. This idea, which Hardy helped develop, says that aberrant protein clumps called amyloid plaques in the brains of Alzheimer's patients are one of the major causes of the disease.
Neurologists fiercely debate whether the amyloid clumps are the cause of the disease or merely a consequence. The Elan/Wyeth data hardly settle the question.
Amyloid proponents have held the upper hand for years. But now "we are at a historic point where some new ideas are being able to question the orthodoxy of the amyloid hypothesis," says Zaven Khachaturian, president of Keep Memory Alive in Las Vegas and former head of Alzheimer's research at the National Institutes of Health. He says targeting amyloid is still a reasonable idea, but "maybe it is not the panacea that the orthodoxy is leading us to believe."
In June,
Says Khachaturian, "We are beginning to find out that when you eliminate the amyloid, some people still have the dementia."
The amyloid theory "is in a meltdown," says Claude Wischik of the University of Aberdeen, Scotland, founder of the biotech TauRx Therapeutics. He argues that the amount of amyloid in patient brains doesn't correlate much with dementia, and that blocking tau, a second protein that accumulates in the brain cells of demented patients, as his company is doing, is a much better way to go.
"I could never understand why people were so persuaded by the amyloid theory. It is more about sociology with science," Wischik says.
But Pfizer neurologist Larry Altstiel counters that the amyloid theory "is alive and well. It is pretty hard to explain away." He and others point to lab data showing that amyloid can be toxic to brain cells. They note that rare inherited gene mutations seem to cause Alzheimer's disease by raising amyloid levels.
"The evidence for amyloid is still pretty impressive," says Ronald Petersen of the Mayo Clinic.
One worry is that Alzheimer's takes years to develop, and doctors may not have a way to identify patients in time. Even if amyloid does trigger the disease process, by the time symptoms become obvious "the disease becomes independent of amyloid, so it progresses even if the amyloid is removed," says Scott Turner of Georgetown University.
Meanwhile, researchers are beginning to focus on alternative targets to amyloid. At the conference, the Alzheimer's Association International Conference on Alzheimer's Disease, two companies, TauRx Therapeutics from Singapore and Allon Therapeutics of Vancouver, Canada, presented human trial data for drugs that target tau. Another non-amyloid drug showing intriguing results is Dimebon from
In a second-stage trial presented at the conference, one of the doses of the TauRx drug that was tested was able to dramatically slow the progression of the disease. The effect was almost twice as big as typically seen with existing drugs, Wischik says. "We have stopped the progression of AD for 19 months," he claimed. The drug tested is an old chemical that previously has been used for a variety of purposes, including treating urinary tract infections.
Muddling matters is the fact that another higher dose was inactive, a problem that Wischik attributed to formulation problems. Meanwhile, the Allon Therapeutics drug helped improve some measures of short-term memory in patients with mild cognitive impairment, a condition that often leads to Alzheimer's.
"For the first time we are actually starting to see tau therapeutics results, which is something we have never seen before," enthuses neurologist Scott Turner of Georgetown University. While the data for the tau drugs "aren't definitive at this point," says the Mayo Clinic's Petersen, they do provide researchers enough of a signal to continue forward in larger trials that may provide more definitive results.


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Blackout Unplugs San Diego Economy
Monday, September 12, 2011
Aired 9/13/11
The San Diego region suffered about $100 million in damages during last week's regional power outage, and many insurance policies don't cover damages homeowners incur during a blackout.
SAN DIEGO The regional blackout didn't just shut off lights, computers and televisions. The power outage effectively pulled the plug on businesses all around San Diego County.
National University System's Institute for Policy Research estimated the region lost about $70 million worth of business productivity. Just about everyone lost some perishable food, since the power was off 13 hours.
"Most people when they opened up their fridge come Friday morning, people looked at their milk and probably thought it was a better case to throw it away, along with some other goods that needed to be disposed of," said Erik Bruvold, president of the National University System's Institute for Policy Research. "Those are real economic losses to households."
The report puts regional food losses to homeowners and businesses at $12 to $18 million. Most homeowners policies won't cover that loss. Bruvold says the typical policy excludes coverage for loss linked to widespread power outages.
San Diego Gas and Electric has a claims process for people seeking damages. Their website explains the process, and has claim forms.
"If a blackout happens to just your property - for example, if a tree falls and knocks out your power lines - then it would, however, most likely be covered. However, on a broad blackout, the policy expressly excludes those types of blackouts from coverage," said Mark Sektnan, president of the Association of California Insurance Companies.
The trade group recommends filing a claim with San Diego Gas and Electric, because they might cover losses linked to the blackout. The main exclusions for the San Diego utility are linked to acts of God like earthquakes, fires or storms.
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Greg Duch | September 12, 2011 at 6:11 p.m. ― 5 years, 6 months ago
Once again, San Diego is spared enduring any meaner effects of a true disaster. Last Thursday, was merely an inconvenience. We skated through with barely a scratch. What if the blackout HAD lasted 24 hours; 48 hours, 72 hours? --or more?
If the blackout was set in motion by one solitary incompetent technician, having an OOOPPSSS! moment; what might be possible if several, ill-intentioned,-- dare I say, terrorists, did their best to sabotage the electric power grid here or elsewhere?
katlovesbeer | September 13, 2011 at 1:55 p.m. ― 5 years, 6 months ago
hehe, speak for yourself...my black out did last 24 hours. i live in a small area near USD where the power was restored from 3am to 6am...just enough time to think everythign's fine...then it went out again. Food replacment is possible, but not my\y special/rare beer in the fridge that must stay at cellar temperature and (2) 15.5 gallon kegs of beer in my kegerator that MUST stay refrigerated. power didn't come back on till almost 5pm the following day. :(
wlekas | September 14, 2011 at 7:24 a.m. ― 5 years, 6 months ago
I'm one of the guys who has to attach a value on events based on available data and what we "know". When I see these kind of projections I wonder where these people got what they "know". If you have freezers and refrigerators that you don't open and close all the time, the temp does not go up radically. The power was off (dark). What are you doing in the refrigerator? The stores were dark, as in closed. This all sounds horrendous but the reality is far less than the projections. The loss is probably from no one shopping (since everything is closed) for the period of time between say 4:00 PM and 10:00 PM. But then if they are partying in the dark they have to stock up the next day so it may be an net increase in spending!


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In his second MLS start of the year, Landon Donovan scored and assisted in a 2-0 LA Galaxy win over visiting Sporting Kansas City. The result also halted Kansas City's five-game streak without conceding a goal.
In the 20th minute, Graham Zusi clanked a free kick off the post.
On a Sporting KC attack in the 27th minute, Oriol Rosell slipped. Marcelo Sarvas nipped the ball away and pushed it to Donovan. The U.S. international spend down the left and slipped a low cross in front of goal. In the middle of four defenders in navy blue, Sarvas tucked home from a few feet away.
The goal ended Kansas City's shutout streak at 545 minutes, the fifth longest in MLS history.
The clinching goal came off another slip. Paulo Nagamura lost his footing at the halfway line with the rest of his teammates pushing forward. When the Galaxy cleared their lines in the 74th minute, Robbie Keane turned quickly and left Nagamura trailing behind. The Irish striker bore down on goal and unselfishly passed off to Donovan at the last moment, who finished the simple tap-in.
The result marked the Galaxy's first win and shutout in five matches.
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Hey Half, they are noticeably darker as seen in the pics and I'm not sure why. I've seen other pics of cxl shoes that were significantly darker as well, and my Alden CXLs have also gotten a lot darker all around. I'm perfectly fine with it as I think it legitimately "adds character" and it's uniform, but it is something for others to consider when ordering.
Maybe MWS knows why this happens? And, right, as Mike mentioned, the wrinkles will certainly soon overshadow!
Sorry for the extremely late response. The darkening of the leather in those areas is likely just where they are extra oily due to natural variation in the hide. CXL is an oil stuffed pull-up leather. Pull-up lightens when it's stretched, but the facings aren't really stretched much during lasting.
On burnished shoes, it's not unusual for the high points to end up darker (naturally) since the raised areas will come in greater contact with the burnishing wheel, but that shouldn't be the case here, as I doubt they have burnishing.
So I may/may not put my merlot heritage with a V-Tread on this sale (unless my bonus comes in!) but I've mentioned the idea to a few friends - they seem to be for a natural sole/welt?
I don't know - I was leaning to black but..
Using the McCallister as an example (I think this might be Burgandy color option, the Merlot looks weird in the custom shoe maker).
Any thoughts?
How brown is the brown one? The natural seems a bit light, black is a bit dull.. wish the natural was just a shade or two darker.
Black shell Rutledges have arrived!
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These were spec'ed to be a complement to my ruby shell Carminas:
AE can do sleek when it wants to.
And with this . . . I report, somewhat wistfully, that the last hole in my collection (black shell dress shoe) has now been filled, and my racks are officially full. Any future purchases will be either (1) something that absolutely cannot be resisted, or (2) purely a nibbling at the edges.
So . . . what shall I start buying next?
These are nice and sleek. Did you order tts? Will you please post a few more photos? thanks!


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For me 85 -90 gets really obnoxious after a few alts. My solution would be to add more normal mode dungeons and increase the xp a little, Also incorporate scenarios into the leveling process just to break up the monotony of questing.
For me 85 -90 gets really obnoxious after a few alts. My solution would be to add more normal mode dungeons and increase the xp a little, Also incorporate scenarios into the leveling process just to break up the monotony of questing.
Personally I levelled 85-90 3 times now and did not even touch certain zones... As said before it's all about mixing up dungeons pvp and questing. It doesnt have to go fast if it's an alt right? The instances do not give you alot of xp indeed, but you fly through em and are always a little change to your normal questgrind. I never felt like it was problematic and the zones are not my favo's either.
I agree.
MoP leveling is absolutely dreadful, the amount of HP the mobs have, often twice as much as the player yet they hit for nothing, it's like killing training dummies all the way to level 90.
People are acting like it takes a lot of time to go from 85-90. It only takes you between 12-16 hours playtime total. Pick a weekend and grind it out.
in cata both the cape and helm where 1 to 85 and you can buy it for gold from the guild vendor, i understand them not wanting peoples to rush with their main but why the new upgrade system don't bring them to 90? we are already far into the xpack there is no reason to keep this strong stance.
depending on how much time is left after playing your main 12-16 hours of playtime can be 2 weeks or more.People are acting like it takes a lot of time to go from 85-90. It only takes you between 12-16 hours playtime total. Pick a weekend and grind it out.
Then don't do it.
As I said, people (including me) level alts to make tons of gold and/or solo old raids for a better chance at a rare mount. Truth is, if you find leveling alts boring, you will also find constantly relogging to send items from one alt to another and killing the same bosses on 10+ toons every week boring. If you aren't mentally prepared for the gigantic grind that leveling (and playing) alts is, just don't do it.
It was fine leveling alts in Cataclysm. I would run instances and BGs and do quests between them. I had 8x 85s and all of them with 2 maxed professions at the end of the expansion.
But instance and BG XP is so low now that this isn't a reasonable strategy. You can quest, or you can quest. Or if you don't like questing, then you can quest.
Or you could level your cooking to 600 in all schools and be 90 within 1.5 hours with the help of a single macro and a few k gold. Yes, people do that. No, I don't know the exact details but it's possible.
Grinding mobs with the help of a lvl 90 guildie healer is also a possibility, saw multiple people do that with great success. You aren't limited to questing only.
You apparently never played any of the original MMO's then. Asheron's Call in particular had one of the lengthiest leveling procedures there was, of course the ability scaling after a certain level was less and less......either way
On topic. Leveling is not hard. Anyone that complains about it either needs to a) look at what they really want to accomplish in a game, nothing should be handed to you b) look at how you are approaching it (let a bit of rested stack up and then level, if for nothing else the placebo effect of awmg im leveling faster)
tl:dr The leveling of alts system isn't broken, people being too lazy to put in effort are broken.
I leveled on the release night 85-87 by doing dungeons only. Took us about ~4 hours as a group of 3 (tank, healer, dps) + randoms. We were doing Temple of Jade in less than 10 minutes. I'll let you do the math on how much XP we got from that and how many we run (hint: too many!)
Educate the community: X-Perl is dead. Stop using it!
Personally, i think Blizzard has done equal amounts of right and wrong this xpac, in the leveling area. Bare in mind i only have 1x 90, but 3 more 86s, and an 80, and countless alts below that range. I have done alot of leveling, not as much in MOP persay, but alot nonetheless.
From my perspective, MOP lacks the epic feel that both Wrath and Cata had to them. The environments, while certainly beautiful and artistic (definitely asian inspired which i LOVE) lack the scope that made the previous two xpacs that much better. I read an article on the web where the writer basically said the best reasons to play MOP are also the best reasons not to, meaning that WoW, while it has had a winning formula in the past, isnt changing much, and certainly not straying from their current path or taking risks.
What could have made MOP that much better, in the leveling respect was the sort of massive invasions and pvp-esque atmosphere that both Cata and Wrath had. I.E. who can kill LK fastest, Horde or Alliance? Who can defend the world best, Horde or Alliance. MOP certainly tries to match that sort of feel, but its lacking. So far the only HvA i have seen is the gunship/assault at the beginning of Jade Forest, and at the jade serpent battle. After that the game has me looking for stolen veggies, exterminating pests, wrangling lost animals, slaughtering mass quantities of mobs, and... farming. Like, actual farming.
Nothing about any of those tasks screams HERO. Certainly not like brazenly assaulting the gates of Icecrown Citadel (the quests, not the raid), trying to conquer an underwater land, or challenging the might of elder gods in the storm peaks. Just a few examples. MOP has you assault a family owned business under errant management, fighting off corrupted insectoids, corrupted bison, corrupted fish, corrupted monkies, etc. Throughtout all of the zones i have done, the alliance is almost constantly absent, except for, jade forest of course. Where is the WAR in WARcraft? Give us something epic like the Gunship battles and Saurfang encounter from ICC, especially after leading us into MOP with our gunship assaulting a presumably alliance stronghold...
But, imho, what WoW could REALLY benefit from is a makeover of the questing/leveling system. Not for pre MOP, i think all of that is just fine and dandy, but something more Epic for the slayers of a thousand raid bosses that we are. What do raiders enjoy after all, if not raiding? Maybe just be done with this quest=reward folly. It serves as nothing but a time sink. Granted, that is what Blizzard really wants, but its not what we, the players want.
What does literally EVERY MMO have in common? Quests. Why can't we get decent experience from our crafting and gathering profs? None of this 15k per node BS. Have some long, truly engaging quest lines. Give us enemies, and allies that we can really form a relationship with. Like that story you love where your favorite character is the one that doesnt survive the telling. Or that grey fantasy where characters aren't always black or white, but real and gritty. Maybe not in the George R. R. Martin sense, but characters we can actually like. Not just throwaway nobodies. Saurfang is a PRIME example of this, everyone in my guild loved him, none of us could wait to see what happened next. The Garrosh intrigue is a good example of how that sort of thing isn't altogether absent in MOP, but its still lacking.
Somebody, somewhere needs to figure out how to tell a story. And come up with something other than questing. Its all we ever do.
I've had 2 toons sitting at 89 since November. One of them is still mounted on a broomstick. So, guess what, I don't like it, and I'm not doing it.
Now, I don't know how you think about games, but I think of it as a failure of the game designer when I can't find something I want to do in the game, over a period of months, that will gain me that one last level on two toons.
Wish I could be bothered to level up my Priest/Lock/Shaman as they're my maxxed out Tailor, LW and Scribe (Tailor and LW are utterly useless with pretty much no access to harmony).
Sadly I agree with the 'it's too boring to bother' - maybe not too long if you sit there and force yourself into doing it, but certainly too boring to bother in the first place, even if fully rested. Gearing the alts at level 90 is somewhat enjoyable - getting them to 90 in the first place is just a total tedious snoozefest of looting 10k items and killing 10k mobs while trying to run around as much rubbish as possible without a flying mount, auto accepting quests without reading them/skipping all the videos as you've seen it all before and just don't give a f anymore.
So yay at being ripped off on the AH because they've made certain professions nigh on worthless if you're not 90 - but it's sadly better than being bored to tears forcing myself to level any more alts, until they fix either flying or looms or...change something. Couldn't even level my miner/herber to 90 by actually mining and herbing like I did in Cata, due to the whole retarded no BoA flying tome for alts thing.