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Nov 25, 2009 at 9:47 am #1242476
I've seen some references (I think from Richard Nisley) that 800 fill power down insulates more than twice as well by weight as 550 down. At first I thought it must be a misprint as I had assumed that the insulation value of down would be proportional to the thickness.
Then I started to consider that the lower mass per thickness would limit conduction.
Also I've seen mention that "overfilling" and slightly compressing down might also increase the insulative value per thickness because the air pockets become smaller. Another boon for overfill is that it prevents the down from shifting out of position.What do you all think?
Nov 25, 2009 at 10:20 am #1548028I can imagine 800 power could be more than twice as insulating as 550. As you say lower density will reduce conduction throughout the down as well as forming a thicker layer of insulating still air in the case of the 800.
Compressing the down slightly may increase the insulation per inch. I do not know.
What I thought Richard was saying was that compressing 800 fill down slightly from maximum loft increased the absolute insulative value of a given weight of down. This I do not believe. I tried to question Richard about one of his graphs on this point and we could not understand one another so I gave up.
If you provide 8 oz of down in a sleeping bag you mostly want it arranged for maximum insulation. not maximum insulation per inchNov 25, 2009 at 11:07 am #1548042I am also interested in this question, as well as Richard's theoretical comparison of a PHD minimus jacket's warmth (unbaffled) to a Skaha (baffled). Because the Minimus had more total down, he rated it warmer, indicating that baffles add no additional warmth to a bag/garment. Aside from not believing this, I know from personal experience that the Skaha is warmer than the minimus.
What I took from Richard's graphs was that most bags were not filled to their 'optimal' density. I can't rectify this with the real world where we are more interested in the optimal weight:warmth ratio, but it did sound like he was implying that adding 7 times as much down, or alternatively compressing your down 7-fold would lead to 'optimal' density. I guess this is the amount beyond which adding more down does not increase warmth???
Nov 25, 2009 at 11:41 am #1548055Well, Marmot makes different bags with different fill-powers for the same temp rating. Dimensions are pretty much identical.
Their 15 degree bags are:
Helium – 19.5oz of 850+ fill
Pinnacle – 22.5 of 800+
Sawtooth – 22oz of 600+I'm at work so don't have the moment to work out the percentages.
Nov 25, 2009 at 11:45 am #1548057Unfortunately if you take test data from different sources then try to find a trend it may be incorrect. That may have been the issue if 550 down was from one test and 800 down from another.
Unfortunately most of us have to rely on test data that we find online, with little background on the test protocol (or financial motives of those publishing the data).
Nov 25, 2009 at 1:53 pm #1548093Lynn,
I said that the optimal linear range for increasing down density without a penalty is about 2.5x, not 7x. Down parkas designed for expedition use typically provide baffling to allow ~16 oz of down to fully loft. For extreme high altitude use manufacturers offer their parkas overstuffed with up to 60/70 oz of down in the same baffle size. This goes way beyond the linear region but they still accrue additional warmth benefits.
Last year I conducted thermal lab tests on a large number of jackets from different manufactures. There R2 correlation was .9928 between the amount of down and the Iclo value regardless of whether the jackets were fully baffled or sewn through the range of 6 oz of down. A standard baffled Skaha (M) has 4.5 oz of down. Obviously there will be a measurable improvement (>5%) in the baffled jackets over stitch through designs at some fill level. Looking at the marketplace, most manufacturers seem to feel that baffling begins to offer measurable benefits after about 6 oz of down.
Nov 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm #1548100That clears things up a little…
"the optimal linear range for increasing down density without a penalty is about 2.5x"
I guess I'm not clear what the 'penalty' is? Does this mean, for instance, that a Skaha would benefit more from adding extra down (up to 2.5x) without increasing baffle height, as opposed to adding extra down AND increasing baffle height? Or would the two options be warmth equivalent? Would a Shaka with baffles half as high but the same down fill be as warm as the one inch high Skaha?
On a side note, have you or are you willing to do actual thermal testing on a Minimus and a Skaha if someone supplied you with one of each? I think a lot of folks would find that kind of info of value (can't remember if you've tested a MontBell UL down inner, but that would be good to compare as well).
Nov 25, 2009 at 3:29 pm #1548114Richard,
Thanks, I went back and read some of your reviews. I had never imagined that packing more down into a confined space would add insulation value.
Now I understand how Feathered Friends can pack 21.4 ounces of 850 fp down into a jacket. I figured it would need 8" baffles to hold that much down if it was meant to fully loft.
Nov 25, 2009 at 4:45 pm #1548137I'd be willing to say that overfilling garments by maybe 10% – 15% would be a good idea as garments tend to get constantly moderately compressed in certain areas like shoulders and arms. "Overfilling" would maintain loft better under this moderate compression.
Overfilling the bottom of a down sleeping bag makes some sense but I think the few hybrid bags around with down tops and synthec filled bottoms are more than likely the warmer option.
I will say from sad experience that wearing a down jacket UNDER a backpack leaves the back of the down jacket soaked with sweat and useless as an insulating garment. For backpacking purposes down is a camp garment, when metabolism is lower and the cool night air comes in.
Nov 25, 2009 at 6:09 pm #1548157Jim,
I just looked at your original post in this thread and am now attempting to answer it.
If I said that 800 fill power insulates more than twice as well as 550 down, then I made a mistake. I can only recall my posts dealing with the effect of different densities of the same fill power. If you can find the URL for that thread, I will correct it.
I think the easiest way to understand the impact of different down fill powers is to explain what would happen with a typical 3 season+ mummy filled with 22 ounces of 800 fill down and EN 13537 LLimit rated at ~10F. Using durable down proof nylon fabrics (300 warp yarns per in. x 300 filling yarns per in.), the bag's total weight would be 43.6 oz. Assume you replaced the original 22 ounces of 800 fill down in the bag with 22 ounces of different fill powers. For each 50 in3 difference in the down fill power rating used, the clo value of the bag would change by about .1 and the resultant LLimit temperature rating 1.8F. So that same bag filled with 550 down would have -.5 clo and an EN 13537 LLimit rating that is 20F.
Down clusters are the "magic stuff" that provides excellent insulation. The difference in the down cluster content versus "the other stuff" is relatively small between 650 fill and 800 fill. "The other stuff" consists of dirt, broken and whole feathers, residue, and down fibers broken from the cluster. They are commonly present along with down clusters. 650 fill has on average 85% of the "magic stuff" and 800 fill has 95% of the "magic stuff". Although your original question was relative to the difference between 550 fill and 800 fill, it is now rare to not have 650 fill being the lowest fill option available.
Nov 25, 2009 at 11:02 pm #1548200Richard-
To avoid embarrassing myself I sent a PM. I may have misunderstood one of your posts from 3 years ago. Let me know.Jim
Nov 26, 2009 at 7:41 am #1548241Lynn,
The Skaha would insulate not more, but approximately the same. The relationship between density and insulation is hockey stick shaped. If you stay in the upper handle range the solutions are optimized for UL backpacking.
Another way of looking at this issue is to compare a Montbell SS sleeping bag with a Western Mountaineering bag using the same approximate amount of fill. The Western Mountaineering bag will loft more and LOOK warmer but the bags will thermal test the same. That is because the MB SS bags stretch elastic compresses the down fill in the linear 2.5x range.
I am working on another project now but when I free up I will contact you about testing the Minimus and Skaha. I agree with you that it would be very interesting to see the results.
I tested all of the MB products and posted a chart to the forum. I tested many other jackets also. Since they weren't popular with the UL community I didn't include them in the chart.
Nov 29, 2009 at 12:30 am #1548698Just one note about the Nunatak gear (who make the Skaha) – in my experience (2 quits, 1 vest, 1 jacket) the shipped weights have deviated from the spec, so it seems quite possible that the fill weights aren't totally consistent either.
>I know from personal experience that the Skaha is warmer than the minimus.
Well this is very very tricky to judge from perceived warmth (assuming this is what you mean). The two jackets are surely going to be at least similar in warmth, are you sure you can really feel the difference, given all the other factors?
Nov 29, 2009 at 12:52 am #1548699Just a further note on Nunatak fill weights.. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Nunatak gear (I have plenty of it), and there's no doubt it's warm and ultralight – even if it is very expensive.
But, for example, look at the Skaha Vest published weights in Pertex Quantum, size M:
Fill weight: 3.75oz
Total weight: 5.5ozFrom this we can deduce that the fabric weight is 1.75oz… which I don't really believe, given that the lightest wind vest (admittedly full zip) I can find is 2.2oz, which is only a single layer of fabric. And at any rate, the vest in reality is most likely heavier – my stock Skaha Plus Vest in Quantum 0.8 is 7.5oz instead of the listed 6oz weight. Is the extra weight more fill, or is the fill accurate and this weight the real fabric weight? Or is the fill in fact less than listed, who knows?
So the problem with calculating warmth based on down weight is that you have to trust the published fill weight (if there even is one).
My clusmy way of measuring warmth (assuming fabric weight+type is similar): how hard is it to stuff into a sack :) It's not totally ridiculous – I used to have a custom Minimus Ultra Vest with no pockets and a stud on hood, but replaced it with a Skaha Plus Vest (mainly for the better hood). The Skaha takes more stuffing into the same volume, therefore it's warmer (and personal experience seems to bear this out, but frankly I don't trust that).
Nov 29, 2009 at 11:13 am #1548739"are you sure you can really feel the difference, given all the other factors?"
Exactly why I would like Richard (or someone) to do a comparison test.
Nov 29, 2009 at 11:43 am #1548744Adrian,
The Skaha Vest published weight for a size medium of 5.5 ounces and 3.25 fill weight leaves 1.75 ounce which includes both the inside material and the outside material. Then you add a small amount for the 14" zipper and the elastic cord and cord lock around the bottom of the vest.
The material for a size medium vest would end up being at least 1.5 squard yards. Add all that together and you get the 1.75 ounce number.
With 3.75 ounces of Down even one made out of the lightest Cuben would weight about 5 ounces.
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"Lunch time!" Matt one of the counselors called. All of the juniors and intermediates ran into party room one for lunch. Tina and Erin checked their lunches to make sure no one had peanut butter, some did so they had to sit away from Aiden. Jeff and Brady walked in to the room and sat across and diagonal from me. I wanted both of them so badly, and every time I looked at them I got wet and my heart began to beat faster. I saw Brady look at me and then I turned away only to catch Jeff staring at me. I was wondering why they were looking at me.
"Katrina?" I asked. She was one of my little friends sitting across from me.
"Is there anything on my face?" she shook her head no.
"Nope, not that I can see." I nodded.
"Thanks." I looked at Jeff who was chatting with Tina. I felt like he liked her but then why did he always give me a glance. Brady was still staring at me every now and then while he talked with the kids.
Once everyone was done with their lunch we went out to the courts and played Mafia. The whole time we played Brady kept glancing at me and Jeff did too. One time he licked his lips and smiled at me. My heart fluttered. I tried to calm down. "Tina! I need your help with something." Christina said.
"Okay." She said. She headed over to Christina. I was left with Matt, Jeff and Brady.
"Okay! Lazer Tag time!" Brady called.
"Whoo hoo! Lazer tag time!" Matt said. All the kids got up and I walked with Katrina.
"Lany are you gonna play?" she asked.
"I hurt my ankle so not today." She hugged me and then ran ahead.
"You playing today?" Jeff asked me.
"Uhm..,no I don't think so." I saw him get a big smirk on his face.
"Good, I mean cool." He walked ahead of me and we entered the lazer tag room. The kids lined up at the end and I took my usual spot.
"Okay everyone, you all know the basic rules, no hitting, no climbing, no running." Matt said. Brady walked in the room and sat down in the chair. "Just so everyone knows, I'm playing as well." Matt stated. My heart beat faster.
"Okay." Brady and Jeff said. Matt divided the teams up and then they headed in. I was sitting there listening to Brady and Jeff talk. I heard them say my name at one point and I thought about asking, but I didn't. I could tell that Brady got up and went over to the door.
"Lany you want to come over here?" Jeff asked me. I stood up and walked over to them.
"Will you do something for us?" Brady asked.
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"Go lock that door." He pointed to the door that entered into the actual lazer tag room.
"We wanna keep them out of this room." Jeff said looking me up and down.
"Please just do it." Brady said and licked his lips. I was totally confused but I had an idea of what was happening. I looked at them.
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"What?" I asked. "Why do you want me on the floor."
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"Hey Brady, Jeff, Lany! The door is locked, Aiden needs to go to the bathroom.
"Shit." Brady said.
"You want me to hide under here?" I asked.
"Brady you take Aiden to the bathroom." Jeff said.
"What? I'm the one with my cock out like this."
"Fuck dude just take him." Jeff and I hid under the table that had a little curtain.
"Sorry we were playing a game, anyway okay I'll take AIden to the bathroom. Come on." Jeff's hands rested on my butt and I held onto him.
"You wanna lose it to me or Brady?" he asked.
"Are you serious? You''re making me choose, I wanna lose it to both of you." I said beginning to grind my hips.
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"Okay." He kissed me. He licked my bottom lip and our tongues began to massage each others.
"Alright continue with the game." Brady said and locked the door again. Me and Jeff came out and Brady smiled. "Mmm I think I need a little bit of a blow job, my cock got less hard." Brady said. I smirked and crawled over to him. I kneeled and stuck his cock in my mouth. "Jeff lock the door." Jeff did that and then came back over. Brady's cock got bigger.
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Brady sat down under me and I put his cock in my mouth.
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"Cum on her face!' Jeff said. They came all over my face and I loved it. I ate up their cum.
"Oh shit. That was fucking awesome." Brady said. I kissed him.
"How about we do this again?" Jeff suggested.
"You better believe it." I kissed Jeff too. We all got dressed and then the lazer tag game was over. A little while later we headed for pick up which was outside today. Katrina looked at me.
"Lany you have some sun tan lotion on your face." My heart stopped. I quickly wiped it away.
"Thanks for that." I gave her a hug. She ran ahead and I walked by myself for a little bit, go all crazy inside me head. Brady came up behind me and scared me. "Oh my gosh! What the heck was that for?" I asked with a smile.
"Hey uhm would you ever want to come on a lunch break with just me? Like on Monday?"
"Well I'm not gonna be here Monday but of course...I'd love to." He smiled at me.
"Aiiight, cool." I felt my face get hot. I had just been sort of asked out in a way.
"Thanks Brady." I said.
"No problem." He walked ahead with the intermediates. I walked ahead to and caught up with the juniors. Someone tapped my shoulder, it was Jeff.
"Hey..." I said. He pulled me a side and made it look like he was going to tell me something "important" because Tina was watching.
"About earlier, hah I'm sorry I didn't rip you apart again." My face was hot.
"D-Don't worry." I smiled.
"Might you want to hang out sometime? At my place?" my eyes grew wider.
"Sure....I'd love to." He smiled.
"Cool." We walked with the juniors out. I couldn't believe at what just happened, I mean I loved it, I just hope I wouldn't be fought over for. I went home that night and found out that Brady accepted my friend request but Jeff didn't so, I was gonna blow him off anyway haha.
"I'm the last one again." Isabella said.
"Don't worry," I said. "I'm usually last at a lot of things too, like my mom picks me up late at my tutor a lot." She smiled. I saw her mom walking towards the play ground. "Looks like your mom is here." I said.
"Isabella your mom's here." Athena said.
"Bye Isabella." I said and walked towards the full day kids who were playing on the playground. I sat down and saw Brady walk over to me.
"Hey Lany." He said and smiled. He sat down next to me.
"Hey Brady." I said.
"Still want to come on my lunch break with me?" I nodded but sort of a little bit upset. "Are you okay?" I shook my head no.
"What's wrong?"
"Jeff ignored my friend request on Face Book." He put an arm around me.
"Don't worry, he's an asshole. I think he has a girlfriend or he likes Tina who the heck knows." I smiled.
"Aren't they gonna ask why I'm leaving with you?" I asked.
"Don't worry, I'll tell them I live near you."
"Okay. Are you taking 12 or 12:30?"
"12 so we could take our time." He said sexily.
"Alright, lunch time!" Jeff called.
"I'm happy I lost it to you." Me and Brady stood up.
"I'm happy you lost it to me. I'm nicer than he is, sorry that when we played mafia I didn't know your name."
"Don't worry its okay, at least I got to hear you yell it." I walked right next to Brady.
"Brady are you taking off?" Jeff asked. He nodded.
"I'm taking Lany with me, she lives near me so she needs to get her lunch." Jeff looked at me with a hunger. Brady rolled his eyes at him. "Sure thing dick head." Brady said.
"What? What did I do?" Jeff asked.
"Way to not accept my friend request."
"Brady is Lany going with you?" Alison asked. He nodded.
"Yeah she is."
"Since I live near her she needs to stop home and get her lunch."
"Okay..." me and Brady walked away and once we were out of the playground area we continued to talk.
"Where are we gonna go?" I asked.
"Lazer tag room." He smirked. He grabbed my hand and we walked to the lazer tag room.
"In the actual room?" I asked. He smirked.
"Oh yeah." We walked into the vest room and he turned on the music and locked the door. We then walked into the actual lazer tag room and before he shut the door he turned off the lights.
"Why did you do that?" I asked.
"You wan them on?" he asked.
"Hell yeah, I want you to see my face when you fuck me." He smirked.
"Yes ma'am." He turned the lights back on and we went over to the red base. I pushed him up against the wall and he kissed me.
"Oh god...this tension...I need you right now." I said. He picked me up and I wrapped my legs around his waist.
"I fucking need you too. Oh my gosh." He then put me on one of the structures that they say not to climb on. He pulled off my pants and panties. He spread my legs and sucked my pussy.
"Mmmmm yes!" I moaned out and pushed his face closer. "eat my pussy...mmm yeah oh fuck eat that pussy." He slipped his tongue inside me and I thought I would pass out. He pulled away for a moment.
"You're pussy is amazing." I smirked.
"Mmmm eat it then." He went back to sucking on my clit. He then put two fingers inside me. "Oh fuck Brady!" his fingers were huge, and they felt so good inside me. "Yes...yes...oh my gosh." He took me down from there and put me on my knees. He unzipped his pants and pulled out his cock. I put it in my mouth and began to suck on it hard.
"Oh fuck yes! Suck my cock." He moaned out loud. I gagged myself on his cock.
"Oh gosh you taste so good. Mmmm."
"You want my big cock in you?" he asked.
"Mmm fuck me hard please."
"Get on your hands and knees." I got on them and I felt him get behind me. He slowly slipped his cock inside my pussy and I moaned. I felt him slide it in and out.
"Oh fuck Brady....yes...yes...mmm your big cock feels so good." I could hear the sound of our skin slapping against each others.
"Jeez your pussy is still tight, oh my god." He fucked me harder and harder.
"Ahhhhhhhhhh fuck! Fuck me harder! Harder!" I screamed. I was sweating so much. He grabbed my hips again and really fucked me.
"Holy shit! Lany...ohhhhh....ohhhhh Lany! Fuuuuuuuck!"
"I'm gonna cum Brady, fuck harder until I cum." He kept on ramming my tight pussy. "Ahhhh! Ahhhhh shiiiiiiit I'm cumming I'm cumming!" I felt my orgasm come and I fell on the ground. I was panting so hard.
"Turn over." He said. I turned over and looked at him. He jacked himself off a little bit more and then came on my face. "oooooooh yeah oooooooh yeah oooooooh ooooooooo!" I ate his cum which tasted so fucking good. He got down and kissed me. "You wanna fuck everyday like this?" he asked me.
"Yes please." He kissed my lips and picked me up. He hugged me for a moment.
"Don't think about dick head Jeff, okay." I looked up at him and nodded. He kissed my cheek. "Come on we need some real food."
"yes all that fucking got me hungry." We got dressed and walked out only to see Jeff there.
"So what were you two doing in there?" he asked. Brady stepped in front of me.
"Jeff what the heck dude?" Jeff walked over and grabbed me. "She doesn't like you."
"Yeah I don't like you anymore."
"Fuck I don't care, I like you."
"You ignored my friend request." I said.
"How the fuck do you know?"
"Because I checked." I pulled his hand off of me and walked over to Brady. He wrapped his arm around me.
"He's a pedophile Lany, don't-"
"he's fucking younger than you." I yelled.
"Dude just get away, your loss." Brady said and we exited the room.
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I enjoy displaying seasonal photos in the sidebar on my website and have been doing so for a couple of years now. It frustrated me that I couldn't easily caption them or credit the photographer. I finally decided I would do a post every month highlighting these photos. So, here we go:
These daffodils are descendants of those originally found on our property. One of the first things I did as a gardener there was dig up and divide the clumps of daffodils that were no longer blooming. Even in late April, the trees have often not leafed out. This bloodroot grew so well for me at the old house that I divided it up and used it as a ground cover under a shrub. Cornelian cherry (Cornus mas) blooms earlier than forsythia but takes longer to get really showy. Some cultivars are bred to be more floriferous and some are bred to have larger fruit, for the fruit is edible. Weather can be very moody during mud season. Advection fog occurs when warm air moves over the snow pack. You can see the fog condensing on the bare tree branches and dripping off. Read the story of the Crocus Bank. The daffodils were growing on my neighbor's property when she moved in. I dug them up for her and we divided them between us. The hellebore was an unnamed seedling from Seneca Hill Perennials. We have raised chickens for over twenty years. We let them out of their yard to scratch because the grass isn't green yet and they have cabin fever, too. Or should I say coop fever? These self-sow along the stone wall. Did you notice they have blue anthers? The grass doesn't turn green until the soil has thawed.April Featured Photos on Cold Climate Gardening
April 3, 2013 – Posted in: What's up/bloomingIf winter is slumber and spring is birth, and summer is life, then autumn rounds out to be reflection. It's a time of year when the leaves are down and the harvest is in and the perennials are gone. Mother Earth just closed up the drapes on another year and it's time to reflect on what's come before.
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Love te double bloodroot! I have not seen that before. I will have to go looking for it this year!
So many beautiful photos. I especially love the crocus bank and the cornelian cherry, a shrub I wish I had. Spicebush is another nice alternative to forsythia, though much more understated.
I also really admire the double bloodroot – we have a lot of wild ones growing here and there in the woods, but they are all single. You photos are making me homesick for spring, which apparently has business elsewhere this year…
Love your long shot images, Kathy. And I do enjoy the transition from Winter to Spring as the grass begins to green.
Such wonderful shots, Kathy. Kudos to all of the photographers. I love seeing your spring blooms and hearing their history.


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"If I do the train it's $20 round trip times 3 people is $60 plus $5 to park at the train station we are at $65. If you do a NYC stadium you are paying through the nose for food, beer etc before a game or during a game. Easily $100 for 3 people so $165 for a yuppy NYC experience plus game ticket prices or $80 for a real man's football experience".
These numbers are way off. A lot of man on LI work in NYC so we have monthly passes. Kids ride free on LIRR so at best you buy and off peak for wife. LIRR charges zero to park in all train stations on weekends and even nights.
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If it was in NYC the tailgating would happen before you got to game.
Right now if I take a train to a 4pm game. My cost is $11 for NJ Transit. LIRR is free. I sell my parking pass for a $20 dollar profit. Grab a few tall boys and a dog for train ride for around $9 bucks. Total cost is zero.
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Tailgating like going to a football game is something you do cause you love to do it. No way can you say it is cost saving.
Honestly if I am taking kids to something a basketball game in Garden is a lot easier and family friendly. Dont even need to bring coats in the winter. Delli at my trainstation too. No worries about traffic, no subway and kids ride free. I can take my kids round trip to MSG for free.
Now that they hiked tolls I am planning on going to opening day with my parking pass and selling the nine other passes. Plus I have to get there at the crack of dawn to get a good spot. Who wants to leave house at 8am on a Sunday when I can leave house at 11am. Last time I tailgated I met up with my buddies who have a dad who joins them who has a handicap sticker. It was great. I took 10am train, met them right by gate at 11:25, tailagted to 12;50 and walked in gate which was only a few hundred feet away. all I had to do was bring a 12 pack with me. Which I grabbed cold at 7/11 at my train.
Guy actually begged me to come more. 1/2 his tailgate crew is gone. I told him I cant bring food on train. He was like bring nothing if you want to. I was like beer or a bottle of something no problem.
People have time constraints today, they dont have all day to hang out. NYC would have been better for Gen Y. Plus kids under 30 have been drilled into not to drink and drive. By me all the clubs are dying. Kids dont own cars and dont drink and drive. My neighbor kids all borrow dads LIRR pass, meet at 7/11 near train, hop on train with cold case, and go out in city. Parents actually like that better.


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A restrictor plate or air restrictor is a device installed at the intake of an engine to limit its power. This kind of system is occasionally used in road vehicles (e.g., motorcycles) for insurance purposes, but mainly in automobile racing, to limit top speed to provide equal level of competition, and to lower costs; insurance purposes have also factored in for motorsports.
Racing series[edit]
A few top classes like Formula One limit only the displacement and air intake mouth dimension. However, in 2006 air restrictors (as well as rev limiters) were used by Scuderia Toro Rosso to facilitate the transition to a new engine formula.
Many other racing series use additional air restrictors.
- Formula 3, 2000cc, 215 hp
- Formula SAE, 710cc, 20 mm restrictor.
- Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, 4000cc, 470 hp
- FIA GT Championship (now FIA GT1 World Championship) and other series using FIA GT regulations
- Le Mans Prototypes used in American Le Mans Series and Le Mans Series have restrictors based on precalculated tables depending on the type and size of the engine and fuel
- The ALMS in the 2010 season combines both LMP1 and LMP2 into a single LMP class on all races except 12 Hours of Sebring and Petit Le Mans; LMP1-categorized cars use a 5% smaller air restrictor compared to LMP2- categorized cars to balance performance in the races[1]
After Group B cars were outlawed from rallying because they were too powerful (rumored to have reached 600 hp), too fast and too dangerous, the FISA decided that rally cars should not have more than 300 hp (220 kW). For a while no special restrictions were needed for that (e.g. the Group A Lancia Delta HF 4WD had about 250 hp in 1987). But with development in the 1990s, Group A cars were rumored to have reached 405 hp or more. So the FIA mandated restrictors for supercharged and turbocharged engines in all categories (World Rally Car, Group A and Group N).
This means that the rally version of a car like the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution can have less power than the street version (the "280" hp Evo VII was believed to have more than 300 hp, and in some markets the FQ-320, FQ-340, FQ-360, FQ-400 versions were sold, with the number representing the total horsepower).
It also means that the torque and power curves of the engine are unusual. The engine produces peak torque and almost maximum power at a relatively low RPM, and from there to the rev limiter the torque drops and the power does not increase much.
In 1995 Toyota Team Europe used an illegal device to bypass the restrictor (allowing an estimated extra 50 hp). Due to this the team lost their results in the 1995 season and was banned from rallying until the end of 1996.
NASCAR's Monster Energy Cup and Xfinity Series have used restrictor plates at Daytona International Speedway and Talladega Superspeedway since 1988. They are still in use with the 2012 season introduction of McLaren Electronics engine control unit providing electronic engine management for all NASCAR races and cars with carburetors finally being phased out.
The device limits the power output of the motor, hence slowing both the acceleration and the overall top speed obtainable on the tracks where the cars are so equipped. NASCAR routinely stated that the Monster Energy Cup restrictor plate reduces engine power from approximately 750 hp to approximately 430 hp.[citation needed]
A major effect, however, is that all drivers tend to form very large "packs" of cars that run closely together for the majority of the race. In these packs drivers often run three abreast across the track, consequently there may be as little as one second separating the entire field. These large packs reduce air resistance which allows the cars to run faster and makes drafting easier.
The restrictions are in the interest of driver and fan safety because higher speeds are closer to out-of-control than the 190 MPH range used for Daytona and Talladega; the severity of crashes at higher speeds is also much greater, shown by telemetry readings of wrecks such as Jerry Nadeau at Richmond and Michael McDowell at Texas that were far higher than registered on restrictor plate tracks. Drivers such as Rusty Wallace have also cited data showing that the sport's roof flaps cannot keep cars on the ground above 204 MPH.
At Daytona and Talladega, most races are marred by at least one multi-car crash as cars rarely become separated. Talladega has been considered the more likely track for these instances to occur as the track is wide enough to have three to four distinct lines of racing. With the new pavement at Daytona, three-wide racing is now possible and multi-car wrecks could become more common. The 2011 Daytona 500 saw a record number of cautions including an early 17-car pile-up. These wrecks tend to be singled out for criticism despite multicar crashes at other tracks and the generally greater severity of impact on non-restricted tracks. In addition, the packs were far smaller in 1988 through 1990 until more teams mastered the nuances of this kind of racing and improved their cars (and drivers) accordingly.
The 2011 Sprint Cup season was the last complete Cup season with carbureted engines. NASCAR announced that it would change to fuel injection for the 2012 season.[2] The injection system used by NASCAR is a different system from that used in IndyCar Racing and other motorsports series and restrictor plates are usable with the NASCAR system; they were used for January 2012 testing at Daytona. The current restrictor plates are bolted beneath a throttle body that sits in the same place as the former carburetors.[3]
Reason for restrictor plates[edit]
There have been three reasons that NASCAR used restrictor plates.[citation needed]
The first use came in 1970 in response to escalating speeds. Following testing and input from drivers such as David Pearson, Bobby Isaac, and Bobby Allison, NASCAR mandated the use of a restrictor plate. Smaller engines, in the 358 cubic inch range, were exempt from the plates; the first car to race with a small block engine was Dick Brooks at the 1971 Daytona 500, where he ran a 1969 Dodge Daytona with a 305 CID engine. The transition period lasted until 1974, when the current 358 cubic inch (5870cc) limit was imposed and NASCAR eliminated the 427 cubic inch (7000cc) engine. As the early 1970s use of restrictor plates was considered a transitional process, and as not every car used restrictor plates, this is not what most fans call "restrictor plate racing."[citation needed]
The second use came following the crash of Bobby Allison at the 1987 Winston 500 at Talladega Superspeedway. Allison's Buick LeSabre blew a tire going into the tri-oval at 200 mph (320 km/h), spun around and became airborne, flying tail-first into the catch fencing.[4] While the car did not enter the grandstands it tore down nearly 100 feet of fencing and flying debris injured several spectators. After a summer where the two subsequent superspeedway races were run with smaller carburetors (390 cubic feet per minute (cfm) instead of 830 cfm) proved to be inadequate to sufficiently slow the cars, NASCAR imposed restrictor plates again, this time at the two fastest circuits, both superspeedways: Daytona for all NASCAR-sanctioned races and Talladega for Cup races. The Automobile Racing Club of America also enforced restrictor plates at their events at the two tracks. In 1992, when the Busch Grand National series began racing at Talladega, the plates were implemented, in keeping with their use at Daytona.[citation needed]
NASCAR's concerns with speeds because of power-to-weight ratios result in restrictor plates at other tracks. The Goody's Dash Series (known now as the ISCARS series with its new ownership) used restrictor plates at Bristol during at least the last years of the series' existence when the cars were using six-cylinder engines (compared to the traditional four cylinder engines), in addition to their Daytona races.[citation needed]
However, restrictor plates initially were not used for Camping World Truck Series trucks. Rather, aerodynamic, air intake reduction through the use of a 390 cfm carburetor, and eventually a tapered carburetor spacer were implemented for those races. Combined with the aerodynamic disadvantage of the trucks, this allowed NASCAR to avoid the use of such equipment for the trucks until 2008.[citation needed] In 2008, the Nationwide Series (now known as Xfinity Series) and Truck Series began implementation of tapered spacers in the engines to restrict power compared to Sprint Cup cars at all 35 (NNS) and 25 (NCTS) races. Both these NASCAR series now use a restrictor plate and tapered spacer at the two tracks.
The third use came in 2000. Following fatal crashes of Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin, Jr. at the New Hampshire International Speedway during the May Busch Series and July Winston Cup Series races, respectively, NASCAR adopted a one-inch (2.54 cm) restrictor plate to slow the cars headed towards the tight turns as part of a series of reforms to alleviate stuck throttle problems which were alleged to have caused both fatal crashes. For the Winston Cup race, it was used just once at the 2000 Dura Lube 300. Jeff Burton led all 300 laps in the ensuing race, despite a 23-car two-abreast battle in the first ten laps, a dramatic charge past 22 cars in 100 laps by John Andretti (who finished seventh), and two charges by Bobby Labonte in the final 50 laps where he took the lead but Burton beat him back to the stripe. The use of restrictor plates, intended as an emergency measure pending a more permanent replacement in any event, was discontinued at New Hampshire for the following race for Cup only. However, the Modifieds still use a restrictor plate because the speeds are too great for that class of racecar without them. The track has since been changed with soft walls to improve racing safety.[citation needed] Restrictor plates remain a permanent fixture to the Modifieds and the racing has often broken 20 official lead changes for 100–125 laps of competition.
Rusty Wallace tested a car at Talladega Superspeedway without a restrictor plate in 2004, reaching a top speed of 228 mph (367 km/h) in the backstretch and a one-lap average of 221 mph (356 km/h).[5] While admitting excitement at the achievement, Wallace also conceded, "There's no way we could be out there racing at those speeds... it would be insane to think we could have a pack of cars out there doing that."[5]
The competitive quality of restrictor plate racing[edit]
A frequent criticism of restrictor plates is the enormousness of packs in the racing, with "Big One" wrecks as noted above singled out for condemnation despite the greater violence of "smaller" crashes on unrestricted tracks. In restrictor plate racing the packs have brought about an often-enormous increase in positional passing; at Talladega Superspeedway the Sprint Cup cars have broken 40 official lead changes sixteen times from 1988 onward, including both 2010 Sprint Cup races at Talladega, which had 87 official lead changes in the regulation 188 laps. (The 2010 Aaron's 499 had 88 lead changes, but the 88th - the race-winning pass by Kevin Harvick - was on the last lap of the third attempt at a green-white-checkered finish). Daytona International Speedway has generally been less competitive because the age of the asphalt (the track was repaved in 1978 and again in 2010) has reduced grip for the cars and thus handling has impeded passing ability to a significant extent. The 2000 New Hampshire race was condemned because Jeff Burton led wire to wire; the plates were singled out as impeding ability to pass, a criticism contradicted by the use of restrictor plates in a Busch North support race the day before where the lead changed seven times in 100 laps and by the highly competitive nature of restrictor plated Modified races; as noted above the 300 also saw a 23-car battle for third in the first ten laps and a burst by 22 cars from John Andretti.
The criticism stems from reduction in throttle response brought by the restriction. The reduction in throttle response, however, has never been shown to have impeded ability to pass; the criticism was shot down in the first "modern" plate race, the 1988 Daytona 500, as the lead changed 25 times officially and saw several bursts where the lead changed several times a lap and also several bursts of sustained side-by-side racing, notably in the final 50 laps between Bobby Allison, Darrell Waltrip, Neil Bonnett, and Buddy Baker.
Said Waltrip before the race, "I feel, as a driver, now I can do more than I could before (the plates). Now, instead of a car just blasting by me with a burst of speed and a lot of horsepower, he's got to think his way, he got to DRIVE his way around me."
In the transitional years (1971-74) where the seven-litre engines (427ci) had restrictor plates, Daytona and Talladega broke 40 official lead changes six times, while Michigan International Speedway broke 35 official lead changes in both of its 1971 races.
- ^ IMSA/ALMS Competitor Bulletin #10-01: Technical Specifications, 2010
- ^ Aumann, Mark. "NASCAR takes 'really big step' with fuel injection". NASCAR. Retrieved 30 January 2012.
- ^ Demmons, Doug (October 23, 2011). "NASCAR's change to fuel injection won't mean the end of restrictor plates". The Birmingham News. Retrieved February 16, 2013.
- ^ "Top 10 NASCAR Crashes That Changed Racing (With Videos!)", Popular Mechanics (retrieved 10 Aug 2010)
- ^ a b NASCAR.com – Rusty Wallace hits 228 mph in Talladega trial – June 10, 2004


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Plus, my conservative soul is vexed to find that Yahoo has changed my e-mail format. Why do they do that? It was fine. Of course, they play it as a great improvement. Can't say I see it. One nifty new aspect is the disappearance of the "save sent items" feature. The "sent items" folder is still there. You just can't turn it on. I haven't found out yet if this is a judgement for my having had it turned off. I don't like to save everything I send, so I usually have it off. Now there's no way to turn it on anymore. I've written to Yahoo help about this three (count 'em, three) times. Each time I get a cute note from what is obviously a computer calling itself George (I hate computers with names) telling me that, because Yahoo likes to provide fast and efficient service, they aren't going to answer my question. It's a pretty simple question: "Has the save sent items feature really disappeared, or is the button just moved? If the former, could you please put the feature back again? I was using it sometimes." But no answer. Just a repeated link to a help page which, of course, doesn't mention this topic.
I definitely think they need to get some good, capitalist customer service going at Yahoo. And they should fire George. I don't think he has a wife computer and baby computers at home to support.
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After one more band of rain showers moves through Western Washington tonight and Tuesday morning, forecasters say clouds should give way on Wednesday in time for mostly clear skies for fireworks.
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This past Sunday as I was coming home from church, Lynne Rosetto Kasper on "The Splendid Table" was chatting with a caller to the radio program about bacon fat in cookie recipes. Like many of us, I grew up with the can of bacon fat on the counter (I really don''t remember it being refrigerated), waiting to be dipped into for frying or flavoring. And, for a time in my life I, too, saved bacon fat, refrigerated, and would spoon a tad in the water for my butter beans or mix it with olive oil for frying corn or green tomatoes, or in my cast iron muffin pan for corn muffins. I used it judiciously, telling myself that a little bit couldn''t hurt me.
As I made more friends who were not from the South, I became sensitively aware of my use of bacon fat. "Gross" and "I can''t believe you cook with that!" were just a couple of the comments I remember from roommates past. So, I meekly stopped saving my bacon fat, stopped eating bacon I guess, and switched to blander oils like canola.
Oh, hallelujah, I''m back again cooking in the South with my "kind" of cooks -- people who understand the need for a little pork fat every now and then. And, of course, with my foodie group, Southern Foodways Alliance, I have the support I need to use bacon fat any time I like.
Every which way
Several years ago, Terry and I attended a dinner in Louisville, Ky., and ate six courses of artistically smoked pork product, right down to the dessert -- bacon baklava. It might have been a little much. I felt like I had smoked a pig cigarette by the end of it; however, the point was to showcase families who have been making a living smoking pork for generations.
There is a Bacon of the Month club (www.gratefulpalate.com) that will ship you different small-batch produced bacon each month. One of the most popular is that of Allan Benton (bentonshams.com) near Madisonville, Tenn. I''ve had this bacon many times and can attest to its rich and smoky flavor. But, then again, I can eat just about any bacon (Hormel Black Label is my grocery store fav right now), except for the precooked microwave kind. My mother loved this sort of instant bacon, and I never said a word to her about it. But it''s so skinny and fatless. Why bother?
Back to the cookies. I came home and looked online and sure enough, I found several recipes on making cookies using bacon fat. They were all some sort of spice or molasses cookie. It brought to mind the brown sugar bacon someone once served me in New York. I was so shocked to be given a glass of wine and a piece of bacon in a chic New York apartment, but, you know -- it was really, really good. If you haven''t had this tasty treat, I''ve included a recipe below. It is equally good and a little spicier if you add a dash of cayenne and dry mustard to the brown sugar and maybe sprinkle chopped pecans on top. This bacon would be fabulous cut up in a spinach salad.
You can do that?
On different SFA trips I''ve tasted bacon peanut brittle and bacon cotton candy, and there is something to be said for them. Salty, smoky, sweet and yummy. I also found a candy bar online by Vosges called "Mo''s Bacon Bar." I had one of their mini chocolate bars with salted smoked almonds last week (from Whole Foods), and I can imagine that the bacon version would be equally exotic.
An okra note
Before I leave I''d like to pass on more okra tips that came to me after the last column. (Who knew okra was so popular?) One is a recipe from "Cross Creek Cookery" by way of Margo Bretz. Only tiny okra are used, with some stem left on. Drop the okra into boiling water and boil exactly seven minutes. Drain quickly and serve with hollandaise sauce for dipping. Sounds delish.
Then Annis Cox told me that she grills okra. We grilled lots of veggies last week, but didn''t think to try okra. But I have plenty coming along in the garden and lots of tomatoes -- if the birds will please leave them alone.
Happy eating!
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Ginger Cookies
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One large egg
2 cups all-purpose flour
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2 teaspoons baking soda
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I saw lots of my favorite movie stars wearing tiffany & co, so I'd love to have one too.
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I get my discount tiffany jewelry repaired at a local jewelry stores cost about 20 dollars, it's not that expensive.
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Notorious BitTorrent tracker The Pirate Bay has today dropped .torrent files completely from their site in favour of magnet links instead. Labelling .torrent files a "waste of space and our time", a blog post on The Pirate Bay explained the move will not affect the way users make use of the service.
Magnet links are hash values stored on a webpage which provide the functionality of a .torrent file without using up the bandwidth required to download one. They make it easier for any sites that wish to mirror content, and make it harder to block .torrent downloads due to the fact that the data is stored on the page and not in a separate download.
The Pirate Bay was one of the first major trackers to introduce magnet links, which had in the past been largely unreliable. A TPB blogger made the announcement on Wednesday:
"TPB will no longer give out links to .torrent files … Instead we're giving you Magnet links. It's simpler for us and no more hassle for you. It's more resilient than .torrent files and it uses much less bandwidth for those who wants to mirror. Also, since the magnet links are just a hash, it's on every single torrent detail page – so noone knows that you actually downloaded a file or not."
In a slightly humorous twist, the website celebrated the shift to magnets by replacing the iconic pirate ship image and name with something a little more fitting.
Do you use The Pirate Bay? What do you think about the switch to magnets? Business as usual or a pain in the hash? Let us know in the comments below.
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Good decision From TPB
I'm not so sure that I like this, but I guess I'll have to wrap my head around it more to completely grasp the change.
Hi Tim Brookes, can i download any content from piratebay using internet download manager? if yes then how? thanx
So, is downloading torrents through magnet links completely anonymous/not trackable (i.e. by your ISP)? Because I used to use TOR to download the actual .torrent files (not really necessary, I know.. I'm just paranoid), but I don't know if I should bother any more.
because of this the problem I am currently facing is that I cannot choose what I wish to download from the magnet link. had it been the torrent file I could easily choose the files once I opened the file in utorrent. So does anyone know how to choose the files in TPB now?
I have a question? I can never get any magnet links to work ever from Pirate Bay. I upgraded utorrent and still i can never get the magnet links to work.. Its so frustrating. Does anyone know how to get them to work? Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
James, you may need to associate an application with your magnet links which is done through your browser. For Firefox: Tools>Options>Applications and then search for "magnet" in the list and left-click to associate your chosen application's .exe file. That should take care of it.
Nobody's mentioned the awesome, lightweight TIXATI client which can handle all (so far) the problems mentioned here about using magnets...I highly recommend using Tixati.
I trust that TPB knows what they're doing, btw. The "unknown" often simply needs to become familiar b4 we can appreciate it...
what do i do to make my computer read magnets?
This magnet link is a real pain!!! I can't choose witch specific folders I want to download before the download starts, and then I have to go through all the files and subfiles in u torrent and pick them out one by one...
Those little coeikos look yummy enough to eat! I am loving all your new magnets.I think my mom and I both enjoy making the little mini-scarves the best, they are quick and always turn out so cute and seem to be popular in the shop so far.
I guess it may be more convenient for some people to use magnet links, but I personally find it absurdly annoying. Many times, I don't want everything uploaded in the torrent, just certain bits and pieces of it. With magnet links, there is no option to view the files that comprise each upload, so you're stuck downloading everything and then having to weed out everything you don't want. Like right now, I'm trying to download 3 e-books. The only torrent I could find that had them was a compilation of every work the author ever wrote. I think you can at least somewhat imagine my frustration with a torrent that is going to take several days as opposed to a few minutes.
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I love the idea of a magnet link, and my torrent client shows me the files if I choose to see them before they are downloaded, or choose what files I want to download. Besides magnets are faster.
how to see the files before downloading them when using magnet links?
Too bad... i need torrent files . I hope soon some1 find the way to make torrent files from magnet links
It's a shame, because utorrent 1.6.1 doesn't support magnets and I refuse to upgrade it since it's the most stable version out there! So basically "upgrading" it will be "downgrading".
how can i save a magnet file on to my hard drive for later download? in torrents i right click a torrent and save to my folder and open and download with utorrent whenever i want, how can i do the same with magnet link?
the magnet files are opening with utorrent after clicking. i want to accumulate lots of magnet links for later use. for example: i still have 100 torrent files to be downloaded. is it possible to accumulate those magnet links in my drive rather than going to piratebay for each file? -
Shut them down they are not that important, fair trade will just move back to guntella, and IM clients. e donkey is also still around if any of you care! The idea behind these services was to help each other and for helping you get something in return. I.E. not profit community sharing.
Looks good to me.
Great I find Magnets easier & faster. Been using them for about a 1 year.
I wish everyone used magnet links to share files..
Thank a lot John and Ajaxkmb for help. Now I can use the Magnetic link.
For those of you who're wondering how to download selected files from a magnet link, watch this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCIclko7Bc8
pain in the hash
Sounds perfectly fine to me actually. I've been using both torrent and magnet links interchangeably for a long time now, and the difference to me as the downloader is completely transparent.
use utorrent or qbitorrent instead to download magnet links
Previously when I clicked the .torrent link in Firefox, I was able to save it or open the torrent client. But now when I clicked the magnetic link Firefox says it doesn't know how to open the address. Why?
You have have to direct the link to open open in your bittorent client, like Utorrent or what ever program you use.
Use this extention (BitTorrent WebUI+):
I know that already which is why pelpoe need to learn which songs they can add to their videos and if they do have to replace it then use one of the many OTHER songs in the list instead of this noise which will make sure the record doesn' even get watched.
you probably have a virus.
You need to associate magnet URIs with your torrent client. If using uTorrent go to ;Options > Preferences > General' and click on the 'Associate with magnet URIs' button. Now when you click on a magnet link it will open in uTorrent..
It has been said a couple time already; the drawback of magnets is you don't initially have the opportunity to select which files to download. Though, you can still change priorities of the individual files once it is started. But, this too wastes band width - starting to download files you don't want or need, just to delete them.
With Magnets, you also don't have the opportunity to initially set the category of the download, ie. shareware or pdf's or video. It is yet another step in organizing your files.
Magnets are like "torrents for dummies" They are one more step towards taking away your ability to control what happens on your computer. It's the whole Windows95 thing all over again.
I don't know why I keep seeing comments like this. YES, YOU CAN SELECT WHICH FILES YOU WANT BEFORE DOWNLOADING!!!!! Can I say it any more forcefully? You CAN if you're using a good client. I use KTorrent and it works with magnets the same way it does with torrent files. I get a dialog box that pops up asking me to select which files I want to download.
Get a decent client folks!
I just use demonoid or h33t and it works perfectly
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The only bad things about magnets is that you have to download the complete file, unlike torrents, you could choose which files to get and not to get.
Really? Do you have to download the whole file? Don't know about other torrent clients, but you can choose which files you want with BitComet (Win7)
You can choose with ktorrent, utorrent, and transmission, and even utserver for linux.
.torrent files has one advantage - you can see exactly what you're downloading before start and exclude the files you don't need. With magnet links only thing you can do is to choose destination folder.
that's why I am against magnet links
Wrong! As you acquire the torrent content list through the magnet link, you can inspect the files and choose which ones you want, just as you would upon opening a torrent file.
NO you can't!! I tried soo much and Couldn't find a way of doing just that!!
if theres a way of selecting individual files from magnet links please post method. I too have tried and there's no way to do it.
many TPB downloads are massive collections of episodes of popular programs ie; History Channel. BBC Horizon. Discovery ect ect, bring back torrent links for these huge downloads, I used them all the time, no way I am going to wait 6 months for a 87gb download! (often you dont even get a file list in the description) -
Yes, you can. It works for me every time. Perhaps you need to use a better Bittorrent client. I use KTorrent and I get the same select/deselect box before downloading just like I do with a torrent file.
Before you just say no, you can't, you need to look around for a better client.
I'm still not getting the option to select individual files from the magnet links, I use uTorrent and others have said that it should work, but it doesn't for me. All I do is click the magnet link, it's opened by uTorrent, from there the display that pops up always shows it blank with zero KB file size, if I click OK it will start downloading and seeding, but never is there a display that allows you to select individual files.
You need to chenge your settings for utorrent to not start right away. Make it load the torrent first then stop, so you can manually start it. With this you can still unselect what you dont want.
help!... is there a way to get torrents from piratebay. i use transmission which tracks the torrents in my watch folder on a remote pc (read NAS box).
Transmission can use magnet links to. Just open url with Transmission.
weird. it just goes to a let me google that for you page. where is the magnet link training? :-)
Puh-leaze, would someone kindly translate this story down into a "for Dummies" version
By the way, I use Pirate Bay daily through a VPN-


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You know that one friend who always invites people over to watch various events like the Grammys or the Super Bowl or the Academy Wards because he or she has some ridiculous home theater set-up at the center of which is an unbelievable TV? If you want, that can be you. To start, you need a TV. A really good one. It doesn't have to be expensive (though those are usually the best), it just needs to have good color accuracy, a good number of ports, not look like it belongs in your grandmother's basement. If you're in the market for a new one this holiday season, consider these 10 models.
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Captain's coming
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Captain's coming | |
Age Range | all ages |
Group Size | medium (6-20), large (21+) |
Setting | indoors, outdoors |
Setup Time | short (0-5 min) |
Duration | medium (11-30 min) |
Subjects | pirates |
Materials | none |
Alias | pirate ship |
Presentation Style | active, interactive |
Brief Description
Captain's Coming is a simon says type game for pirates! Arrrr! This game has commands like swab the deck! Swim to ship! Man overboard! and many other swashbuckling commands. It's ARRRmazing!
Students will be able to play a game much like simon says. Students will be able to act like pirates
This Is How You Play
- Tell the campers that they are on a ship and that you, the counselor, are the captain.
- Counselor gives orders to the campers, or pirates. Here are some of the orders:
Command | # of people | Action |
"Captain's coming" | 1 | Salute |
"At ease" | 1 | hands at side |
"Swab the deck | 1 | Pretend to mop |
"Seasick" | 1 | Make horrible vomiting noises as loud as you can |
"Swim to shore" | 1 | Run (making swimming motions) to the side that the counselor said is the island |
"Swim to ship" | 1 | Run (making swimming motions) to the side that the counselor said is the ship |
"Mermaid" | 1 | Stand on one foot, wave and say in a high pitch voice, "Hi sailors!" |
"Hook" | 1 | Hold up pointer finger in the shape of a hook and yell "Arrrrrrr!!" |
"Man overboard" | 2 | One person bends over at the waist while another person looks over their back as if they are looking over the edge of the ship for someone who fell overboard |
"Porthole" | 3 | Two people form a porthole with their hands while a third person looks through the hole |
"Octopus" | 4 | Four people lean against each other back to back and wave their arms as if they are a giant octopus |
"Captain's table" | 5 | Five people turn towards each other and pretend to be eating at a table |
There are probably other orders. Feel free to add new ones to this table.
Variations for Younger Students
- Younger students may be confused by the group commands. Don't use commands that require partners.
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ROME, Maine — Embers from a campfire are being blamed for a fire on an island in an inland Maine lake in the town of Rome on Memorial Day.
Rome Fire Chief Gary Foss tells the Portland Press Herald about 15 firefighters from Rome, Mount Vernon and Belgrade used boats to reach Blueberry Island in Long Pond and extinguish the fire.
Foss says no one lives on the privately owned island, but the owners saw several men on the island Sunday who had a campfire. They were asked to put the fire out and leave.
Foss says the men apparently tried to put out the fire, but a hot ember likely reignited.
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Experiment To Investigate the Plasmolysis Rate and Concentration of Sucrose Solution In the Onion Cell
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Experiment to investigate the plasmolysis rate and concentration of sucrose solution in the onion cell Neena Kim SFC1A Date of the experiment : 1st September 2001 Objective In the onion cell, there is cell sap which has a certain concentration of materials. Depending the concentration of the outside of the cell, the cell can be plasmolysed at the different rate by osmosis. ...read more.
fine forceps paster pipettes slide and cover slips microscope graph paper lazor blade tile procedure label six % of plasmolysed cells in the onion concentration of sucrose solution 1st 2nd 3rd average 0.2M 0.0 3.6 1.7 1.77 0.3M 15.8 22.0 22.1 19.97 0.35M 46.8 56.3 38.5 47.18 0.4M 69.3 54.5 57.3 60.40 0.5M 94.6 91.2 89.2 91.70 1.0M 98.7 95.1 96.0 96.67 Table of the percentage of the plasmolysed cells in the onion and the concentration of sucrose solution used Limitation factors 1. ...read more.
2. The used part of onion cell is not even and identical. The concentration of cell sap is different from place to place so that the degree of plasmolysis can be different. 3. The time may affect the result. Although the osmosis will stop when it reaches the equilibrium, we do not know when the equilibrium point is. Therefore, we might take the onion piece out too earlier so that the plasmolysis would not be fully accomplished. 4. the other component within the cell sap may give the unwanted error. 5. 6. 7. 8. ...read more.
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