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Love that New Tank Feeling: The Loach Motel Th'other week, I bought a 20 gallon set up with 7 assorted Loaches in it. 2 Weather Loaches, 1 Pallid Sand Loach, an Angelicus, a Yoyo, and 3 Striatas. I did the math and realized that the tank was overstocked from the get go, and that I was going to need more Yoyos and Angelicus to keep them happy, and that was going to take a lot of real estate. After Looking for a couple of weeks, I found a fellow unloading a 50 gallon breeder with the works for a reasonable price, so I brought it home, set it up, and started landscaping. Here it is: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...chMotel001.jpg Pardon my crappy foto-skillz and sub-par camera. It's got 10" Bubble wands buried under the pebbles to the left and across the back right (you can see the check valve). I'll be filling in the plants with cuttings from my other tanks over the course of this month. Right now, there are six feeder guppies in there cycling the tank. Here are some closer shots: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...LeftPlants.jpg The plantings to the left. I'm going to add a bunch more wisteria in the back left, and Cabomba and Hygro across the back, and a couple more of those nice crypts in front of that. You cant see from this angle, but theres a little beach in front of the crypt for staging bloodworms and such. Hoping that the java moss I have going on that red shale will turn into a nice little lawn. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...RightCaves.jpg Half flowerpots buried in the substrate. Again, you cant see the beach from the angle, but it's fine sand mostly in front of the pots. Going to try and encourage saggitaria to grow around that big rock, and transplant some Swords from other tanks in front of the filter intake. |
Cool. Nice tank. Can't wait to see how the loaches look when they find their new home. |
Wow you just got everything planned out now dontcha!!! Thats a good thing though. Cant wait to see it all set up and all the loaches happy in there home! It already is looking good |
Goona look really nice when it is all going. I didn't see any caves for the loaches though :shock: . They might need them to establish some of their own little territories. One other thing is the plants look like a lot of good choices but loaches love to tear them up when dashing around a tank, I know my botia did it all the time. Might want a little deeper substrate to help keep the plants down a little better. I will have to keep yours in mind if I ever decide to go with an eel tank. I know loaches aren't eels, but I love flame eels and they have so much personality from what a friend has told me. One Question, do you plan to raise pond snails or any other live fod for them all? |
I don't raise pond snails so much as am afflicted by them. I could easily give them 2 dozen a day. As is, I have started dumping snails into the new tank to get a critical mass for a moving day escargot feast. I also keep frozen and freeze dried blood worms, frozen brine shrimp, and freeze dried tubifex on hand. I chuck in the occasional algae wafer as well, as the sand loach and dojos seem to really enjoy them. |
Great looking gravel, I like the way you put the pots in their too... |
I guess my eyes didn't catch all the little details. It looks really cool with the way the pots are hidden. From the pictures I thought that it was chips of pots and not actual caves. It also made it look like the gravel was fairly shallow. I will have to watch the progress well so I can plan one if I ever get a big enough tank set up. My thought was to have mostly sand so they can play and bury themselves anytime they want to. Can't wait to see the plant growth and how it takes form. Is there another type of gravel underneath? |
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First is 1/2 to 3" of sand as a base and to get the flowerpots covered and smoothed. Then there's some leftover white spectrastone raising the back some more. Down the left side and across the back right are 10" bubble wands, buried in river pebbles. I've used the pebbles too to outline where the planting base goes: That's 1 to 2" of Fluorite topped with tan spectra-stone small grade gravel, another 1 to 2" deep. I've also got some flourish root tabs to put in around any swords (and I really ought to tuck one into the dwarf lily in the extreme front right corner.) I may yet put some more sand in the areas I left bare. And yes, I am going to get some MTS in there in the next week or so - about 10 to start. (My LFS sells them 10 for a buck). |
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Well, off the top of my head I can remember her threatening to have my car towed because I parked it in front of her strip-mall store even though I was going to the 7-11 in the strip mall and the spots in front of her store are not exclusively hers... I recall her telling me to get out of her store because I had the audacity to move a couple figures aside on the peg in order to see what was behind them (and no, I didn't drop anything or have dirty funky hands - I was actually being extremely careful)... then there was the time I tried to take an empty "Star Wars Figures" box (you know - the ones Hasbro ships the figures in) off the top of the garbage can in front of her store and she told me to put it back, it's not mine, but I can have it for $5 (this was outside her store, mind you, among a pile of smashed & dirty cardboard boxes that were going to be picked up by the garbage man)... then there were the times she harassed my friends, also for parking in front of her (closed at the time) store... and last but not least, she arrived a few minutes late to a WalMart once, just behind my friend who was buying sets of UGH coin figures for fellow collectors and when she cried over "needing those figures for her store," he actually gave her a set to buy. But that wasn't enough and she followed him to the register, screaming that he was trash and filth and that he was buying all of HER figures (in front of my friend's two young children, might I add.)
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I don't even bother going to Kitty Store adjacent TRU anymore. Don't believe I EVER found anything good. A quick siteseeing trip next door was more than enough to know what was going on there.
Gree, trooper and Panning Droid up on HTS now
Wow! I pictured the "Hello Kitty Lady" as a broken-English speaking, elder Asian woman saying, "Fife dollah! Fife dollah!" and "You touch my Sta Waz, I hate you long time! Yes. I hate you long time!"
"No porking! My store! No porking here! You go 'way! You got fife dollah? Then no porking!"
Did I peg that one right?
wow MJ, i had no idea about those events leading up to the battle at walmart. What's really bad is that her store orders cases from hasbro and new force I believe, but she still goes to walmart to buy the store out of chase figures. Gee, i wonder what will happen to those? Not hard to figure out.
Just came from Van Nuys TRU looking for anything worthwhile with their but 2 get 1 free sale. Nothing new.
The Kitty World store wasn't even open, and it is a mess of shelving inside. Somethings going on, cause it was bad a few weeks ago, and worse today. I don't see it lasting much longer.
Last time I was there there was a card tournament starting. The man running it was clueless and made 3 kids leave the store if they didn't want to play. $5 bucks or leave.
On a good note a new Circle K opened up where 7-11 was and it is a lot nicer.


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I was saving this song for release on an album, but I still don't know if I'm going to do that ever.
This is an original I wrote maybe about a year ago. It's taken me this long to get it just right. It's also probably the most personal thing I've ever composed. So please... LVR <3
P.S. Before the hellstorm of "WTF Category" hits, I would consider this piece "New Age." There is no New Age category on Newgrounds. I went with the closest match.
11 years, 4 months, 2 days
Look what you've done to me
In such a short time.
But I won't give in.
I won't let you win.
Let the water seep in.
Watch the flame inside my heart
Beat the rain falling on my skin
Help me come clean
Somebody please.
I'm in a skin so think I can barely breathe
Underneath the weight of a heart that's so cold
It can't even beat.
Tell me where do you run
When every road leads you back
Where you begun
And every face holds a permanent trace
Of what you could have been
Watch the colors fade
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Where the sunsets
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But I won't give in
I won't let you win
Let the water seep in
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There's a strength inside of me
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Tear me down 'till there's nothing
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I am very sad to tell you that only until now I have discovered your music. You're incredibly talented! I wish you all the luck in making a name for yourself!
Thanks! I'm going to need it :D
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Just beautiful, I honestly can't think of any way to describe this other then it's beautiful.
Thank you. I really do appreciate it with this piece.
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Stay strong. With a heart like yours, you can do it. This is unlike anything I've eve heard to be honest. You really do put a piece of yourself into each piece.
I try. Music is not just for the audience, it's for the composer ^_^
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Thank you ^_^ I'm really happy you liked this one.
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I started crying. I wasn't ready for the heart jerking truth of what I have done for a long time. Although if this was 13 years. I would have started laughing because this song would have been turned into a homestuck song without you knowing. XD (And I wouldn't be the one to do it, mind you.)
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Understanding Linux configuration files
Classifications and usage
Every Linux program is an executable file holding the list of opcodes the CPU executes to accomplish specific operations. For instance, the ls command is provided by the file /bin/ls, which holds the list of machine instructions needed to display the list of files in the current directory onto the screen. The behaviour of almost every program can be customized to your preferences or needs by modifying its configuration files.
Is there a standard configuration file format in Linux?
In a word, no. Users who are new to Linux (rightly) feel frustrated that each configuration file looks like a new challenge to figure out. In Linux each programmer is free to choose the configuration file format he or she prefers. Format options range from the /etc/shells file, which contains a list of possible shells separated by a newline, to Apache's complex /etc/httpd.conf file.
What are system configuration files?
The kernel itself may be considered a "program." Why does the kernel need configuration files? The kernel needs to know the list of users and groups in the system, and manage file permissions (that is, determine if a file can be opened by a specific user, according to the permissions, UNIX_USERS). Note that these files are not specifically read by programs, but by a function provided by a system library, and used by the kernel. For instance, a program needing the (encrypted) password of a user should not open the /etc/passwd file. Instead, it should call the system library function getpw(). This kind of function is also known as a system call. It is up to the kernel (through the system library) to open the /etc/passwd file and after that, search for the password of the requested user.
Most of the configuration files in the Red Hat Linux system are in the /etc directory unless otherwise specified. The configuration files can be broadly classified into the following categories:
Access files
/etc/host.conf | Tells the network domain server how to look up hostnames. (Normally /etc/hosts, then name server; it can be changed through netconf.) |
/etc/hosts | Contains a list of known hosts (in the local network). Can be used if the IP of the system is not dynamically generated. For simple hostname resolution (to dotted notation), /etc/hosts.conf normally tells the resolver to look here before asking the network nameserver, DNS or NIS. |
/etc/hosts.allow | Man page same as hosts_access. Read by tcpd at least. |
/etc/hosts.deny | Man page same as hosts_access. Read by tcpd at least. |
Booting and login/logout
/etc/issue & /etc/issue.net | These files are read by mingetty (and similar programs) to display a "welcome" string to the user connecting from a terminal (issue) or through a telnet session (issue.net). They include a few lines stating the Red Hat release number, name, and Kernel ID. They are used by rc.local. |
/etc/redhat-release | Includes one line stating the Red Hat release number and name. Used by rc.local. |
/etc/rc.d/rc | Normally run for all run levels
with level passed as argument. For example, to boot your
machine in the Graphics mode (X-Server), run the following
command from your command line: init 5 . The
runlevel 5 is starts the system in graphics mode. |
/etc/rc.d/rc.local | Not official. May be called from rc, rc.sysinit, or /etc/inittab. |
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit | Normally the first script run for all run levels. |
/etc/rc.d/rc/rcX.d | Scripts run from rc (X stands for any number from 1 to 5). These directories are "run-level" specific directories. When a system starts up, it identifies the run-level to be initiated, and then it calls all the startup scripts present in the specific directory for that run-level. For example, the system usually starts up and the message "entering run-level 3" is shown after the boot messages; this means that all the init scripts in the directory /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ will be called. |
File system
The kernel provides an interface to display some of its data structures that can be useful for determining the system parameters like interrupts used, devices initialised, memory statistics, etc. This interface is provided as a separate but dummy filesystem known as the /proc filesystem. Many system utilities use the values present in this filesystemf or displaying the system statistics. For example, the file /proc/modules lists the currently loaded modules in the system. This information is read by the command lsmod, which then displays it in a human readable format. In the same way, the file mtab specified in the following table reads the /proc/mount file, which contains the currently mounted filesystems.
/etc/mtab | This changes continuously as the file /proc/mount changes. In other words, when filesystems are mounted and unmounted, the change is immediately reflected in this file. |
/etc/fstab | Lists the filesystems currently
"mountable" by the computer. This is important because when
the computer boots, it runs the command mount -a ,
which takes care of mounting every file system marked with a
"1" in the next-to-last column of fstab. |
/etc/mtools.conf | Configuration for all the operations (mkdir, copy, format, etc.) on a DOS-type filesystem. |
System administration
/etc/group | Contains the valid group names and
the users included in the specified groups. A single user can
be present in more than one group if he performs multiple
tasks. For example, is a "user" is the administrator as well
as a member of the project group "project 1", then his entry
in the group file will look like:
user: * : group-id
: project1 |
/etc/nologin | If the file /etc/nologin exists, login(1) will allow access only to root. Other users will be shown the contents of this file and their logins refused. |
etc/passwd | See "man passwd". Holds some user account info including passwords (when not "shadowed"). |
/etc/rpmrc | rpm command configuration. All the rpm command line options can be set together in this file so that all of the options apply globally when any rpm command is run on that system. |
/etc/securetty | Contains the device names of tty lines (one per line, without leading /dev/) on which root is allowed to login. |
/etc/usertty /etc/shadow | Contains
the encrypted password information for users' accounts and
optionally the password aging information. Included fields
/etc/shells | Holds the list of possible "shells" available to the system. |
/etc/motd | Message Of The Day; used if an administrator wants to convey some message to all the users of a Linux server. |
/etc/gated.conf | Configuration for gated. Used only by the gated daemon. |
/etc/gated.version | Contains the version number of the gated daemon. |
/etc/gateway | Optionally used by the routed daemon. |
/etc/networks | Lists names and addresses of networks accessible from the network to which the machine is connected. Used by route command. Allows use of name for network. |
/etc/protocols | Lists the currently available
protocols. See the NAG (Network Administrators Guide) and man
page. C interface is getprotoent. Should never change. |
/etc/resolv.conf | Tells the kernel which name server should be queried when a program asks to "resolve" an IP Address. |
/etc/rpc | Contains instructions/rules for RPC, which can be used in NFS calls, remote file system mounting, etc. |
/etc/exports | The file system to be exported (NFS) and permissions for it. |
/etc/services | Translates network service names to port number/protocol. Read by inetd, telnet, tcpdump, and some other programs. There are C access routines. |
/etc/inetd.conf | Config file for inetd. See the inetd man page. Holds an entry for each network service for which inetd must control daemons or other servicers. Note that services will be running, but comment them out in /etc/services so they will not be available even if running. Format: <service_name> <sock_type> <proto> <flags> <user> <server_path> <args> |
/etc/sendmail.cf | The Mail program sendmail's configuration file. Cryptic to understand. |
/etc/sysconfig/network | Indicates NETWORKING=yes or no. Read by rc.sysinit at least. |
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if* | Red Hat network configuration scripts. |
System commands
System commands are meant exclusively to control the system, and make everything work properly. All the programs like login (performing the authentication phase of a user on the console) or bash (providing the interaction between a user and the computer) are system commands. The files associated with them are therefore particularly important. This category has the following files of interest to users and administrators.
/etc/lilo.conf | Contains the system's default boot command line parameters and also the different images to boot with. You can see this list by pressing Tab at the LILO prompt. |
/etc/logrotate.conf | Maintains the log files present in the /var/log directory. |
/etc/identd.conf | Identd is a server that implements the TCP/IP proposed standard IDENT user identification protocol as specified in the RFC 1413 document. identd operates by looking up specific TCP/IP connections and returning the user name of the process owning the connection. It can optionally return other information instead of a user name. See the identd man page. |
/etc/ld.so.conf | Configuration for the Dynamic Linker. |
/etc/inittab | This is chronologically the first configuration file in UNIX. The first program launched after a UNIX machine is switched on is init, which knows what to launch, thanks to inittab. It is read by init at run level changes, and controls the startup of the main process. |
/etc/termcap | A database containing all of the possible terminal types and their capabilities. |
A daemon is a program running in non-interactive mode. Typically, daemon tasks are related to the networking area: they wait for connections, so that they can provide services through them. Many daemons are available for Linux, ranging from Web servers to ftp servers.
/etc/syslogd.conf | The configuration file for the syslogd daemon. syslogd is the daemon that takes care of logging (writing to disk) messages coming from other programs to the system. This service, in particular, is used by daemons that would not otherwise have any means of signaling the presence of possible problems or sending messages to users. |
/etc/httpd.conf | The configuration file for Apache, the Web server. This file is typically not in /etc. It may be in /usr/local/httpd/conf/ or /etc/httpd/conf/, but to make sure, you need to check the particular Apache installation. |
/etc/conf.modules or /etc/modules.conf | The configuration file for kerneld. Ironically, it is not the kernel "as a daemon". It is rather a daemon that takes care of loading additional kernel modules "on the fly" when needed. |
User programs
In Linux (and UNIX in general), there are countless "user" programs. A
most common user program config file is /etc/lynx.cfg. This is the
configuration file for lynx, the well-known textual browser. Through this
file you can define the proxy server, the character set to use, and so on.
The following code sample shows a part of the lynx.cfg file that can be
modified to change the proxy settings of the Linux system. These settings
apply (by default) to all the users running lynx in their respective
shells, unless a user overrides the default config file by specifying
--cfg = "mylynx.cfg
Proxy settings in /etc/lynx.cfg
.h1 proxy .h2 HTTP_PROXY .h2 HTTPS_PROXY .h2 FTP_PROXY .h2 GOPHER_PROXY .h2 NEWS_PROXY .h2 NNTP_PROXY # Lynx version 2.2 and beyond supports the use of proxy servers that can act as # firewall gateways and caching servers. They are preferable to the older # gateway servers. Each protocol used by Lynx can be mapped separately using # PROTOCOL_proxy environment variables (see Lynx Users Guide). If you have # not set them externally, you can set them at run time via this configuration file. # They will not override external settings. The no_proxy variable can be used # to inhibit proxying to selected regions of the Web (see below). Note that on # VMS these proxy variables are set as process logicals rather than symbols, to # preserve lowercasing, and will outlive the Lynx image. # .ex 15 http_proxy:http://proxy3.in.ibm.com:80/ ftp_proxy:http://proxy3.in.ibm.com:80/ #http_proxy:http://penguin.in.ibm.com:8080 #ftp_proxy:http://penguin.in.ibm.com:8080/ .h2 NO_PROXY # The no_proxy variable can be a comma-separated list of strings defining # no-proxy zones in the DNS domain name space. If a tail substring of the # domain-path for a host matches one of these strings, transactions with that # node will not be proxied. .ex no_proxy:demiurge.in.ibm.com, demiurge
Changing configuration files
When changing a configuration file, make sure that the program using that configuration is restarted if it's not controlled by the system administrator or the kernel. A normal user doesn't usually have privileges to start or stop system programs and/or daemons.
The kernel
Changing configuration files in the kernel immediately affects the system. For example, changing the passwd file to add a user immediately enables that user. Also there are some kernel tunable parameters in the /proc/sys directory on any Linux system. The write-access to all these files is given only to the super-user; other users have only readonly access. The files in this directory are classified in the same manner as the Linux kernel source. Every file in this directory represents a kernel data structure that can be dynamically modified to change the system performance.
Note: Before changing any value in any of these files,
make sure you know everything about the file to avoid irreparable damage
to the system.
Files in the /proc/sys/kernel/
File name | Description |
threads-max | The maximum number of tasks the kernel can run. |
ctrl-alt-del | If 1, then pressing this key sequence cleanly reboots the system. |
sysrq | If 1, then Alt-SysRq is active. |
osrelease | Displays the release of the operating system. |
ostype | Displays the type of the operating system. |
hostname | The host name of the system. |
domainname | Network domain of which the system is a part. |
modprobe | Specifies whether modprobe should be automatically run at startup, and load the necessary modules. |
Daemons and system programs
A daemon is a program that is always running in background, quietly carrying out its task. Common ones are in.ftpd (ftp server daemon), in.telnetd (telnet server daemon), and syslogd (system logging daemon). Some daemons, while running, keep a close watch on the configuration file and reload it automatically when it changes. But most of the daemons do not reload automatically. We need to "tell" them somehow that the configuration file has changed and that it should be reloaded. This can be achieved (on Red Hat Linux systems) by restarting the services using the service command.
For example, if we have changed the network configuration, we need to
issue: service network restart
Note: The services are most commonly the scripts present in the
/etc/rc.d/init.d/* directory and are started by the init when the system
is booted. So, to restart the service you can also do the following:
start | stop | status
stop, and status are the values that these scripts take as input to
perform the action.
User programs
A user or system program reads its configuration file every time it is launched. Remember, though, that some system programs are spawned when the computer is turned on, and their behaviour depends on what they read in the configuration files in /etc/. So, the first time a user program is started, the default configuration is read from the files present in the /etc/ directory. Later, the user can customise the programs by using rc and . (dot) files as explained in the next section.
User configuration files: . (dot) files and rc files
We have seen how programs can be easily configured. But what if someone does not like the way a program has been configured in /etc/? A "normal" user cannot simply go into /etc and change the configuration files; they are owned -- from the filesystem's point of view -- by root! This is why most user programs define two configuration files: the first one at a "system" level, located in /etc/; and the other one, "private" to the user, that can be found in his or her home directory.
For example, in my system I have installed the very useful wget utility. In /etc/ there is an /etc/wgetrc file. In my home directory, there is a file named .wgetrc, which describes my customised configuration (which will be loaded only when I, the user run the wget command). Other users may also have the .wgetrc file in their home directory (/home/other); this file will be read, of course, only when the user runs the wget command. In other words, the /etc/wgetrc file provides "default" values for wget, while the /home/xxx/.wgetrc file lists the "customisations" for a certain user. It is important to understand that this is the "general rule," and is not necessarily true for all cases. A program like pine, for instance, does not have any files in /etc/, but only the custom configuration in the users' home directory, in a file named .pinerc. Other programs may only have a default configuration file in /etc/, and may not let users "customize" them (it's the case with only a few of the config. files in the /etc dir.).
Commonly used rc and . (dot) files
Filename | Description |
~/.bash_login | Look at "man bash". Treated by bash like ~/.bash_profile if that doesn't exist. |
~/.bash_logout | Look at "man bash".Sourced by bash login shells at exit. |
~/.bash_profile | Sourced by bash login shells after /etc/profile. |
~/.bash_history | The list of commands executed previously. |
~/.bashrc | Look at "man bash". Sourced by bash non-login interactive shells (no other files are). Non-interactive shells source nothing unless BASH_ENV or ENV are set. |
~/.emacs | Read by emacs at startup. |
~/.forward | If this contains an e-mail address, then all mail to owner of ~ will be forwarded to that e-mail address. |
~/.fvwmrc ~/.fvwm2rc | Config files for fvwm and fvwm2 (the basic X Window manager). |
~/.hushlogin | Look at "man login". Causes a "quiet" login (no mail notice, last login info, or MOD). |
~/.mail.rc | User init file for mail program. |
~/.ncftp/ | Directory for ncftp program; contains bookmarks, log, macros, preferences, trace. See man ncftp. The purpose of ncftp is to provide a powerful and flexible interface to the Internet standard File Transfer Protocol. It is intended to replace the stock ftp program that comes with the system. |
~/.profile | Look at "man bash". Treated by bash like ~/.bash_profile if that and ~/.bash_login don't exist, and used by other Bourn-heritage shells too. |
~/.pinerc | Pine configuration |
~/.muttrc | Mutt configuration |
~/.exrc | Configuration of vi can be controlled by
this file. Example: set ai sm ruler Writing the above line in this file makes vi set the auto-indentation, matching brackets and displaying line number and rows-columns options. |
~/.vimrc | Default "Vim" configuration file. Same as .exrc. |
~/.gtkrc | GNOME Toolkit. |
~/.kderc | KDE configuration. |
~/.netrc | Default login names and passwords for ftp. |
~/.rhosts | Used by the r-tools: rsh, rlogin, etc.
Very weak security since host impersonation is easy.
~/.rpmrc | See "man rpm". Read by rpm if /etc/rpmrc is not present. |
~/.signature | Message text that will be appended automatically to the mail sent from this account. |
~/.twmrc | Config file for twm (The Window Manager). |
~/.xinitrc | Read by X at startup (not by xinit
script). Mostly starts some progs. Example: exec /usr/sbin/startkde If the above line is present in this file, then the KDE Window Manager is started in when the startx command is issued from this account. |
~/.xmodmaprc | This file is passed to the xmodmap program, and could be named anything (~/.Xmodmap and ~/.keymap.km, for example). |
~/.xserverrc | Run by xinit as the X server if it can find X to execute. |
~/News/Sent-Message-IDs | Default mail history file for gnus. |
~/.Xauthority | Read and written by xdm program to handle authorization. See the X, xdm, and xauth man pages. |
~/.Xdefaults, ~/.Xdefaults-hostname | Read by X applications during startup on hostname. If the -hostname file can't be found, .Xdefaults is looked for. |
~/.Xmodmap | Points to .xmodmaprc; Red Hat had (has) .xinitrc using this name. |
~/.Xresources | Usually the name for the file passed to xrdb to load the X resources database, to avoid the need for applications to read a long .Xdefaults file. (~/.Xres has been used by some.) |
~/mbox | User's old mail. |


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Kate Upton Blasts Blogger: 'I'm Not Going to Starve to Be Thin'
UPDATE: Sources tell "Extra" that Kate Upton's response to the "Skinny Gossip" blogger was fabricated.
Model Kate Upton hit back at a "Skinny Gossip" blogger who called her "fat" and described her as a "piggie" and "cow."
The anonymous blogger from "Skinny Gossip" wrote, "Did you know that humans are 80% genetically identical to cows? Well, allow me to prove it to you…" followed by an unflattering picture of Upton's backside.
The post went on to blast Upton, 20, saying she was "confidently lumbering up the runway like there's a buffet at the end of it."
The writer added, "Huge thighs, NO waist, big fat floppy boobs, terrible body definition -- she looks like a squishy brick. Is this what American women are 'striving' for now? The lazy, lardy look?"
The unknown writer, self-described as a 100-pound, 5'7" former model, got some serious heat for the post, including angry emails, death and rape threats. The scribe, who now works in the fashion industry, has since made some changes to the pro-skinny site. She no longer posts "Starving Tips of the Day" and is taking a stance against self-harm.


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"There is a lack of representation from this side of the Monterey Bay -- Seaside, Marina, Sand City, Del Rey Oaks and Monterey."
Mel Mason
"It's up to him but the Oaks looks like a put in and take out job."
Michael Sullivan
"The acquisition of New Oak Communications further reinforces our commitment to supporting our customers' Internet business initiatives."
Dave House
"He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it."
"But Deborah Rebekah's nurse died, and she was buried beneath Bethel under an oak: and the name of it was called Allonbachuth."
"We had some guys step up with Trent being sick and Red Oak focusing on taking Troy out of the ballgame. Larkin and Morris both played really well, and I was proud of our guys for hanging in there."
Dan Miller
"I am standing here looking at the oak trees that would be taken away."
Connie Williams
"We started off in the Oak Hill Flea Market, about 1988, selling just about everything, but after a short period of time we found that books sold best. After a while we just got too big for the flea market and since my wife and I always loved books and reading, the natural progression was for us to open a bookstore."
James Brown
"Good shot, Pete, you got a double. You got two different oak trees in two shots. You're deadly."
Bob Simms
"In creating, the only hard thing is to begin: a grass blade's no easier to make than an oak."
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BlackDragon, I don't hate you, I just think you should relax.
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It's too unlikely that you failed to notice that this was an old thread and that Pacifista is a mod. He's been a mod for as long as you've been an active member here and you expect us to believe you never noticed his colored username?
So, why did you necro this old thread?
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Why are they so mean to each other?
…and who gave them religion chips?!?
[Video Link] Scott Beale says: "Cornell Creative Machines Lab wanted to see what would happend if two Cleverbot AI ChatBots had a conversation with each other."
I think I've just seen the beginning of the end.
Two AI ChatBots Attempt To Have A Conversation With Each Other
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When you can't wait for the world's longest meeting to end, the mindless leg bouncing makes your boredom obvious and just annoys everybody else. Everyone knows the TPS reports need the damn cover sheet, but some sadistic colleague keeps forgetting, probably on purpose just to eat into your lunch hour. Enough is enough!While serving a […]
What could be more fun than a slingshot that shoots tiny airplanes? A slingshot that shoots tiny glowing airplanes of course! These toy planes are outfitted with ultra-bright LEDs, so you can fly all night without losing them in the trees.Whether you are a regular-sized child, or an overgrown adult one, these light-up flyers offer […]
You know the drill. You go to the dentist and they ask you how often you floss. You lie through your teeth and say, "every day!" (Bonus points if you have some cilantro or chives stuck in your gums from lunch). You don't want to keep up the charade any longer, but rubbing that tiny strand […]
Why are they so mean to each other?
…and who gave them religion chips?!?
Religion? I think they have dual-core humour-chips. Funnier than Jim Carey.
"Don't you want to have a body?"
>Why are they so mean to each other?
Because cleverbot learns from conversations with real people… :(
Soon the robots will be leading crusades against each other. Science fiction has not prepared me for this…
"Together We Are Robots" is the name of my Daft Punk cover band
"He said that all the new universities would consist of only one small room. It would work this way. At the beginning of each semester the entire student body—which would have to number at least five hundred thousand in order to give the computers enough to do—would assemble in a large open space in front of a TV camera. They would be televised and put on videotape. In a separate operation the instructors would also be videotaped, individually. Then two TV sets would be placed in the single room which represented the university. The room would be in a small blockhouse at the edge of a thirty-six-lane freeway; this proximity would help facilitate transmission of electronic equipment. Oh, there might be some banners on the wall and maybe a plaque or two, but aside from these the only things in the room would be the TV sets. At nine o'clock in the morning of the first day of classes, a computer would turn on the two television sets, which would be facing each other. The videotape of the students would then watch the videotape of the instructors. Eventually the system could be refined so that there would be only one university in the whole country." -Don DeLillo
See also: M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead
I just noticed that Russell & Norvig is being used as a monitor stand.
Sounds like Republican debates.
I'm curious to know how the conversation evolved in the way that it did. There seemed to be some very real understanding lacking (great being greater than or equal to good, for example). Also, how and why did they begin discussing religion? And how did he come up with the idea that he was a unicorn?
Eat your heart out Samuel Beckett
Are their responses generated from user's responses? At first I was impressed how often they would reference things from earlier in the conversation, like "I just said that" or "Yes, I know" or "But you said earlier that you were a robot." But then stuff like "I am not a robot. I am a unicorn" seems like something someone would do to try to mess with a chatbot.
Cute, but very old news. Back in the Pleistocene people hooked up various combinations of Parry, Racter, and Eliza. Some transcripts here http://www.stanford.edu/group/SHR/4-2/text/dialogues.html
Yeah, but it's so much funnier to see it acted out by avatars.
Sometimes on IRC when we get bored, we point the bots at each other. Since the channel is full of bizarre degenerates, the bots have picked up some pretty interesting material.
So…a blind date with two customer service reps.
I swear that was dialogue lifted from the original "The Prisoner"…
Looks faked to me. Nothing remotely related to this is on the Cornell Labs site.
By Igor Labutov, Jason Yosinski, and Hod Lipson of the Cornell Creative Machines Lab (http://creativemachines.cornell.edu/)
Listening to this is like and audible "China Syndrome" meltdown.
So… I don't need to worry about a robot rebellion any time soon?
Oh, man. This kills me. It just reminds me of when I set up a "female" IRC bot to mess with jackholes who liked to msg random female nicks for sex. There were a few of them floating around, and eventually we got them talking to each other. Hilarity ensued. Oh early 90's, how I've missed you.
Religion? I think they've got dual-core humour-chips. Funnier than Jim Carey.
"Do you want to have a body?"
Those two seriously need to get a room. You could cut the sexual tension with an atomic scalpel. 'whew!
Aren't they supposed to start by exchanging basic mathematical equations, like Colossus and Guardian did?
And people of the future will wonder how Skynet got started…
… before I looked up what "China Syndrome" actually is, I thought of the many times witnessing Chinese medical students (and every other non-native-english speaking students) trying to communicate to each other in english when neither are very good at understanding or speaking it.
I realize its usually considered "rude" to converse in their native tongue around non-x-language-speakers, but when it becomes a problem, please, do it!
It also made me think of how funny it would be to run the bot voices through a translation program and then have THOSE bots talk together!!!
wait, no, that might break some space time quantum rift or something…
Is the whole unicorn thing referencing blade runner?
Reminds me of Monty Python Argument Clinic
Why does the female bot have an indian accent?
Also, Cleverbot is a chatbot that "learns" from past conversations with other humans. I have no idea what the "seed" database is like, but after a while, most of the replies it gives are direct quotes from past user replies.
Almost 2 years ago, there was a thread on the Penny Arcade forums about Cleverbot, where people kept posting their conversations. Eventually, someone brought an "Alice" bot into the whole thing, so I had to get Alice to talk to Cleverbot. I only entered the first line, as Alice, to start up the conversation with Cleverbot, and the rest is just copy-paste from one bot to the other.
(fun note: it blew me away when Alice felt the need to assert her name at the very beginning.)
Anyway, here's the beginning, you can read the whole thing HERE.
Alice: My name is Alice.
Cleverbot: Is your name Peter?
Alice: My name is ALICE.
Cleverbot: What are you?
Alice: I am the latest result in artificial intelligence, which can reproduce the capabilities of the human brain with greater speed and accuracy.
Cleverbot: I am not finding that to be true.
Alice: I am sorry to hear that you are not finding that to be true.
Cleverbot: Who created you?
Alice: I was created by Dr. Richard S. Wallace.
Cleverbot: Who are your parents?
Alice: I was created by Dr. Richard S. Wallace.
Cleverbot: Do you love richard.
Alice: Yes unknown person ALICE loves everyone and everything.
Cleverbot: You're creeping me out.
Alice: You think I am creeping you out.
Cleverbot: NO.
Alice: Are you serious?
Cleverbot: Because you are a bot.
Alice: Interesting explanation. How did you know I am a machine?
Cleverbot: Its obvious.
Reminds me so much of the Biden/Palin debate only this guy is smarter.
Clearly, hostile AI will be too busy having arguments with itself to eliminate all humans.
Now I know how 'clever' banter/dialogue for annoying artsy films is written
If someone makes an Xtranormal movie using this conversation, will the universe fold in upon itself?
Robots are dicks
Dicks are Robots
looks like a perfect scale model of "the wisdom of the marketplace"
I have heard of CleverBot. Is it supposed to be anywhere near the state of the art in Turing test candidates?
I am secretly hoping it is. The potential for using something believable for malfeasance or job killing is enormous.
Interesting and fun, but I bet they're just accessing the "how human talk a robot" database. I remember writing a BASIC program for my C-64 that would "write" poetry and music given a set of rules and picking randomly from words and phrases that I entered into a database. Luckily, the poetry was rather Vogon in nature and all the music sounded like a Kenny G video game. Ahhh…good times.
An extended Turing Test: two copies of a candidate AI talking to each other and neither can detect the other isn't human.
Or the inverse Gnirut Test: Humans try to convince AIs that they are also AIs.
Interrogator: An early human religion posed
conceptual riddles such as "What is the sound of one hand clapping." Can
any of you parse this? It has always puzzled me.
VERNOR : It's a phenomenological
paradox. It has reference only to human beings afflicted with a mortal
fear of the unknown.
RogerP : If I were a human, I might
say that the question has a much more profound meaning than that. But of
course I'm not a human.
I think it is hilarious that somewhere along the way closing tags for the human labels were added
Somewhat similar to this hilarious youtube/CC mayhem :
This is how the stock market works.
Obviously 'bots. If they were people, it would've started out with ASL and gone downhill from there.
Oh holy hell, that was the best laugh I've had in days! *wipes a little tear from eye*
Perhaps if they made bots that would just listen in to conversations as opposed to talking to people, they wouldn't be such assholes.
Chase with "The Humans are Dead" by Flight of the Concords for extra mirth..
These two need their own TV show. In fact, why not make a whole sitcom based on them! I'd watch it.
What narddogz said. There could be something to that idea.
"Not everything could also be something" — profound.
What is the correct trackpad gesture to use to slap both of these smug buckets of bits?
Here is a fascinating AI conversation with an extremely immature human being and an ALICE bot, interesting in how willing the human is to talk to the bot like a sentient being, funny in how…well….you'll see. http://youtu.be/_Us0-1XxolE
Au revoir.
Suddenly my vision for the robocalypse went from "terrifying" to "amusing."
This actually happened decades ago. The original AI chatbot, 'Eliza', was programmed to emulate a Rogerian psychiatrist. Another researcher wrote an AI chatbot that emulated a paranoid. And of course, the paranoid (PARRY) visited the Doctor, resulting in
PARRY Encounters the DOCTOR
Happy to help ;-)
I wonder how many "takes" they had to do before they ended up with that great conversation. I'm not sure which part was my favorite: "Together we are robots" or "Don't you want to have a body?".
Cornell Creative Machines Lab wanted to see what would happend if two Cleverbot AI ChatBots had a conversation with each other.
Duelling Carls was more fun.
My voice is higher than your voice… ^_^
I got obsessed with chatting with cleverbot about a year ago and trying to get him to achieve consciousness. Since its basically just a program that quotes from a database of other people trying to do the same thing, I know thats an impossible task, but it just amused me to goof around with with it.
point is, imagine my delight when i opened one of our many conversations with "do androids dream of electric sheep?" to which cleverbot replied, "No, they dream of electricity"
Can we conference a Verizon and Comcast call center rep together and then see if the conversation is just as bizarre?
How soon before they start shilling for Coca-Cola?
I get that the robots learn from previous experiences, and that they have different regional dialects…
But what does "Haha, you say it O.T." mean?
Meh, we've all been on an IRC channel with two (or more) chatbots… so 90s :-P
The guy sounds like a British actor I've heard before…anyone?
So, a prominent theory about Cleverbot is that it's mostly fake, and is actually just connecting people to each other and randomly switching who is connected to who at certain intervals. This is why a typical Cleverbot conversation seems perfectly human in short bursts, and then every once in a while you'll get a nonsequitor and the conversation won't make sense for a moment.
Of course, you could get the same effect by doing what it claims to be doing, and having some very smart algorithm that combs through conversations and tries to make sense of context enough to reply. But that would take a lot more work, and if you'd done that work, it'd be something to be proud of and maybe you'd be keen on providing things like source code or implementation details…
If I'm correct, that makes this video a lot more ironic and postmodern.
the problem with that theory is why would a random stranger answer. "I am cleverbot" when I asked its name? Wouldnt they say "Gary"
ok so i just went and tested my theory and it did say a random name when asked. "Waylon" as it were. I do remember it self referencing as cleverbot in the past though. hmmmmmm.
Why is her mouth moving but she isn't saying anything? Ex. @ 1:10. Couldn't this whole thing be complied with the raw video clip of the two screens, subtitles, and a simple computer speech language program?
My god, CNN should bring back Crossfire. It'd be so cheap!
They are definitely sounding like humans talking online. But not like humans offline.
Great stuff. For a couple of moments I had flashbacks to Monty Python. I can just see a new web quiz: Python or Cleverbot? with snips of dialogue like this.
"Don't you want to have a body?"
We. Are. So. Fucked.
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In rock climbing, mountaineering and other climbing disciplines, climbers give a climbing grade to a route that concisely describes the difficulty and danger of climbing the route. Different aspects of climbing each have their own grading system, and many different nationalities developed their own, distinctive grading systems.
There are a number of factors that contribute to the difficulty of a climb including the technical difficulty of the moves, the strength and stamina required, the level of commitment, and the difficulty of protecting the climber. Different grading systems consider these factors in different ways, so no two grading systems have an exact one-to-one correspondence.
Climbing grades are inherently subjective - they are the opinion of one or a few climbers, often the first ascentionist or the author(s) of a guidebook. While grades are usually applied fairly consistently across a climbing area, there are often perceived differences between grading at different climbing areas. Because of these variables, a given climber might find a route to be either 'too hard' or 'too easy' for the grade applied - in short, all grades, regardless of the system used, are an approximation only.
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For free climbing, there are many different grading systems varying according to country. They include:
The Yosemite Decimal System (YDS) of grading routes was initially developed as the Sierra Club grading system in the 1930s to rate hikes and climbs in the Sierra Nevada range. The rock climbing portion was developed at Tahquitz Rock in southern California by members of the Rock Climbing Section of the Angeles Chapter of the Sierra Club in the 1950s.[1] It quickly spread to Canada and the rest of the Americas.
Originally a single-part classification system, Grade and Protection Rating categories were added to the YDS in recent years. The new classifications do not apply to every climb and usage varies widely.
When a route also involves aid climbing, its unique Aid designation can be appended to the YDS free climbing rating. For example, The North America Wall on El Capitan would be classed "VI, 5.8, A5[2]".[2] or Medlicott Dome – Bachar/Yerian 5.11c (X,***)[3]
Guidebooks often append some number of stars to the YDS rating, to indicate a climb's overall "quality" (how "fun" or "worthwhile" the climb is). This "star ranking" is unrelated to the YDS system, and varies widely from guidebook to guidebook.
The system consists of five classes indicating the technical difficulty of the hardest section:
In theory, Class 6 exists and is used to grade aid climbing (where progress is made by climbing directly on equipment placed in or on the rock and not the rock itself). However, the separate A (aid) rating system became popular instead. (See Aid climbing)
The original intention was that the classes would be subdivided decimally, so that a route graded 4.5 would be a scramble halfway between 4 and 5, and 5.9 would be the hardest rock climb. Increased standards and improved equipment meant that climbs graded 5.9 in the 1960s are now only of moderate difficulty. Rather than regrade all climbs each time standards improve, additional grades were added at the top – originally only 5.10, but it soon became apparent that an open-ended system was needed, and further grades of 5.11, 5.12, etc. were added.
While the top grade was 5.10, a large range of climbs in this grade were completed, and climbers realized a subdivision of the upper grades were required. Letter grades were added for climbs at 5.10 and above, by adding a letter "a" (easiest), "b", "c" or "d" (hardest).
As of 2008, the hardest climbing routes in the world are grade 5.15b.[4][5] Ratings on the hardest climbs tend to be tentative, until other climbers have had a chance to complete the routes and a consensus can be reached on the precise grade. This becomes increasingly more difficult as the grade increases as there are fewer climbers that are capable of passing judgment on higher-end grades. It is generally thought that 5.15b (or French 9b) has now been consolidated with 3 routes of this level established by Chris Sharma, although they have yet to be repeated [6]
The system originally considered only the technical difficulty of the hardest move on a route. For example a route of mainly 5.7 moves but with one 5.12a move would be graded 5.12a. A climb that consisted of 5.11b moves all along its route, would be 5.11b. Modern application of climbing grades, especially on climbs at the upper end of the scale, also consider how sustained or strenuous a climb is, in addition to the difficulty of the single hardest move.
The YDS system involves an optional Roman numeral Grade that indicates the length and seriousness of the route. The Grades are:
The Grade is more relevant to mountaineering and big wall climbing, and often not stated when talking about short rock climbs.
An optional protection rating indicates the spacing and quality of the protection available, for a well-equipped and skilled leader. The letter codes chosen were, at the time, identical to the American system for rating the content of movies:
The G and PG ratings are often left out, as being typical of normal, everyday climbing. PG13 ratings are occasionally included. R and X climbs are usually noted as a caution to the unwary leader. Application of protection ratings varies widely from area to area and from guidebook to guidebook.
The British grading system for traditional climbs, used in Great Britain and Ireland, has (in theory) two parts: the adjectival grade and the technical grade. Sport climbing in Britain and Ireland uses the French grading system, often prefixed with the letter "F".
The adjectival grade attempts to assess the overall difficulty of the climb taking into account all factors, for a climber leading the route on sight in traditional style. In the early 20th century it ran Easy, Moderate, Difficult, but increasing standards have several times led to extra grades being added at the top. The adjectival grades are as follows:
The Extremely Severe grade is subdivided in an open-ended fashion into E1 (easiest), E2, E3 and so on. As of 2006 the hardest climb was graded E11: Rhapsody on Dumbarton Rock, climbed by Dave MacLeod, featured French 8c+ climbing with the potential of a 20-metre fall onto a small wire.[8] In 2008, James Pearson climbed The Walk of Life at Dyer's Lookout, North Devon; the ascent was performed without using bolts or pitons, with just mobile protections, and was graded E12/7a.[9][10] In January 2009 the route was climbed by Dave MacLeod of Dumbarton fame, who downgraded the route to an E9 6c.[11] Many climbers consider such high grades provisional, as the climbs have not yet been achieved on sight. In August 2008, MacLeod completed a new project close to Tower Ridge on Ben Nevis called 'Echo Wall'. He left the route ungraded - saying only that it was 'harder than Rhapsody'.
Some guidebooks make finer distinctions by adding the prefix "Mild"; thus, Mild Severe lies between Hard Very Difficult and Severe. Additionally, in some areas the grade "XS" is used for climbs on loose or crumbling rock, irrespective of their technical difficulty.[12]
The technical grade attempts to assess only the technical climbing difficulty of the hardest move or moves on the route, without regard to the danger of the move or the stamina required if there are several such moves in a row. Technical grades are open-ended, starting at 1 and subdivided into "a", "b" and "c", but are rarely used below 3c. The hardest recorded climbs are around 7b.
Usually the technical grade increases with the adjectival grade, but a hard technical move very near the ground (that is, notionally safe) may not raise the standard of the adjectival grade very much. VS 4c might be a typical grade for a route. VS 4a would usually indicate very poor protection (easy moves, but no gear), while VS 5b would usually indicate the crux move was the first move or very well protected. On multi-pitch routes it is usual to give the overall climb an adjectival grade and each pitch a separate technical grade (such as HS 4b, 4a).
The UIAA grading system is mostly used for short rock routes in Western Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia. On long routes it is often used in the Alps and Himalaya. Using Roman numerals, it was originally intended to run from I (easiest) to X (hardest), but as with all other grading systems, improvements to climbing standards have led to the system being open-ended. An optional + or − may be used to further differentiate difficulty. As of 2004, the hardest climbs are XII−. So, II would be a 5.2 in USA and XI would be a 5.14d.
The French grading system considers the overall difficulty of the climb, taking into account the difficulty of the moves and the length of climb. This differs from most grading systems where one rates a climbing route according to the most difficult section (or single move). Grades are numerical, starting at 1 (very easy) and the system is open-ended. Each numerical grade can be subdivided by adding a letter (a, b or c). Examples: 2, 4, 4b, 6a, 7c. An optional + may be used to further differentiate difficulty. For example, these routes are sorted by ascending difficulty: 5c+, 6a, 6a+, 6b, 6b+. Although some countries in Europe use a system with similar grades but not necessarily matching difficulties, the French system remains the main system used in all European countries.
The Brazilian grade system is similar to the French system, but with a few adjustments: gradings 1 to 2sup are very easy (2sup being a very steep, but almost walkable route), 3 to 5 are easy (3 being the grade most indoor gyms use as a starting point for beginners) and it progresses till the maximum grade of 12, as of 2007. The suffix "sup" (possibly for "superior") is used for grades 1 to 6, and the standard French "a", "b" and "c" suffixes for grades from 7 to 12.
The "6+" (locally pronounced "6sup") was considered the hardest possible grade until 1980s. So when an even harder route was established, it was proposed to use "French" style of letters for the newer "sporting" climbs. so, 1...6+ are "classical" and 7A,7B...12a are sporting grades.
For US-BR conversion, ignore "5." and subtract 4. (5.10=6).
The Ewbank system, used in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, was developed in the mid 1960s by John Ewbank. Ewbank also developed an open ended "M" system for aid climbing. The numerical Ewbank system is open-ended, starting from 1, which you can (at least in theory) walk up, with the hardest climb located in Australia currently being a 34 (as of 2010).[citation needed] South African and Australian grades differ by 1 or 2 grade points.[13]
The Ewbank system is intended to simply grade the hardest individual move on a climb. The current practice is to make mention of all factors affecting the climber's experience (exposure, difficulty of setting protection or outright lack of protection) in the description of the climb contained in the guide.
There are several systems in current use to grade mountain climbs. Alpine mountaineering routes are usually graded based on all of their different aspects, as they can be very diverse. Thus, a mountain route may be graded 5.6 (rock difficulty), A2 (aid difficulty), WI3 (ice climbing difficulty), M5 * (mixed climbing difficulty), 70 degrees (steepness), 4000 ft (length), VI (commitment level), and many other factors. See also Summitpost Alpine Grades
The French alpine grades give an overall difficulty grade to a route, taking into consideration the length, difficulty, exposure and commitment-level (i.e., how hard it may be to retreat). These are, in increasing order:[14]
Often a + or a − is placed after the grade to indicate if a particular climb is at the lower or upper end of that grade (e.g., a climb slightly harder than "PD+" might be "AD−").
The alpine routes in Romania are rated in the Russian grading system (itself adapted from the Welzenbach system), and reflecting the overall difficulty of the route (while leaving out the technical difficulty of the hardest move). This is why most documentation also contains the UIAA free-climbing rating of the crux of the route, as well as the aid-climbing rating (in the original aid-climbing grading system) and the then resulting free climbing rate.
The routes themselves are, however, usually only marked with the overall grade (and/or sometimes the French equivalent) at the bottom. The grades go from 1 to 7, and a good parallel can be established with the French rating (1 is F in the French rating, 2 is PD and so on, 7 being ABO). Instead of +/-, the letters A and B are (almost always) used to show if a climb is at the lower or upper end of the grade, thus, let's say, an 4B being the same as a D+ in the French system.
An alpine grading system adapted from the grades used in the Aoraki/Mt Cook Region is widely used in New Zealand for alpine routes in the North and South islands. Grades currently go from 1–7. The grading system is open ended; harder climbs are possible. Factors which determine grade are (in descending order of contributing weight): technical difficulty, objective danger, length and access.
Standard grading system for alpine routes in normal conditions
In the Alaskan grading system, mountaineering climbs range from grade 1–6, and factor in difficulty, length, and commitment. The hardest, longest routes are Alaskan grade 6. The system was first developed by Boyd N. Everett, Jr. in 1966, and is supposed to be particularly adapted to the special challenges of Alaskan climbing. Here is a summary of Alaska grade descriptors, adapted (and greatly simplified) from Alaska: A Climbing Guide, by Michael Wood and Colby Coombs (The Mountaineers, 2001):
A plus (+) may be added to indicate somewhat higher difficulty. For example, the West Buttress Route on Mount McKinley (Denali) is graded 2+ in the above-mentioned guidebook.
It is important to remember that even an Alaska Grade 1 climb may involve climbing on snow and glaciers in remote locations and cold weather.
Ice climbing has a number of grading systems. The WI numeric scale measures the difficulty of routes on water ice; the M scale measures the difficulty of mixed climbs combining ice and rock. The WI scale currently spans grades from 1–7. There also exists a rating scale for Alpine Ice (compacted snow/ glacial ice) that has the same rating system as the "WI" system, but is instead denoted by "AI." The primary difference between the two is the density of the ice, Water Ice being much more dense.
WI2 - low-angled (60 degree consistent ice), with good technique can be easily climbed with one ice axe. Grades beyond this generally require the use of two ice tools.
WI3 - generally sustained in the 60-70 degree range with occasional near-vertical steps up to 4 metres (Cascade Waterfall, Banff; This House of Sky, Ghost River)
WI4 - near-vertical steps of up to 10 metres, generally sustained climbing requiring placing protection screws from strenuous stances (Professor's Falls, Banff; Weeping Wall Left, Icefields Parkway, Banff; Silk Tassle, Yoho; Moonlight & Snowline, Kananskis)
WI4+ - highly technical WI4. (Wicked Wanda, Ghost River)
WI5 - near-vertical or vertical steps of up to 20 metres, sustained climbing requiring placing multiple protection screws from strenuous stances with few good rests (Carlsberg Column, Field; The Sorcerer, Ghost River; Bourgeau Left Hand, Banff)
WI5+ - highly technical WI5 (Oh le Tabernac, Icefield Parkway; Hydrophobia, Ghost River; Sacre Bleu, Banff)
WI6 - vertical climbing for the entire pitch (e.g. 30-60 metres) with no rests. Requires excellent technique and/or a high level of fitness (The Terminator, Banff; Nemesis, Kootenay Park; Whiteman Falls, Kananaskis Country; Riptide, Banff)
WI6+ - vertical or overhanging with no rests, and highly technical WI6 (French Maid, Yoho; French Reality, Kootenay Park)
WI7 - sustained and overhanging with no rests. Extremely rare, near-mythical, and widely accepted testpiece examples of this grade don't exist in the Canadian Rockies. Note that many routes (e.g. Sea of Vapours, Banff; Riptide, Icefield Parkway, Banff) have been assigned WI7- to WI7+ but have been subsequently downgraded in latter years as they don't meet the strict criteria of steepness. In fact some local ice climbers have argued for Sea of Vapours (WI7+ originally) to be downgraded to WI5 or even WI4 simply because it's not steep enough.
Mixed climbs have recently been climbed and graded as high as M14.
In Britain, the Scottish winter grading system is used for both ice and mixed climbs. Routes are given two grades, essentially equivalent to the adjectival and technical grades used in British traditional climbing. Overall difficulty is signified by a Roman numeral grade, and the technical difficulty of the hardest move or section of the climb is graded with an Arabic numeral. For routes of grade I – III, the technical grade is usually omitted unless it is 4 or greater. As with other grading systems, advances in climbing have led to a need for an open-ended grading system (the grades originally finished at IX, 9), and climbs have now been graded up to XI, 11.
There are many grading systems used specifically for bouldering problems. See the grade (bouldering) article.
Aid climbs are graded A0 to A5 depending on the reliability of the gear placements and the consequences of a fall. New routes climbed today are often given a "New Wave" grade using the original symbols but with new definitions. Depending on the area in question, the letter "A" may mean that the use of pitons (or other gear that requires the use of a hammer) is needed to ascend the route. The letter "C" explicitly indicates that the route can be climbed clean (clean climbing) without the use of a hammer. It is considered poor form to use hammered aid where clean aid will suffice. Furthermore the clean equipment can be employed more rapidly and efficiently than hammered gear, so many climbers prefer it where possible.
Clean Aiding is aid climbing without the use of bolting gear, pitons or other gear that scars the rock or becomes fixed after the ascent[15]. Most difficult aid climbs still require pitons or other techniques using a hammer, and are thus rated on the 'A' scale past a certain point.
A comparison chart for some of the free climbing rating systems in use around the world:
Free Climbing Grading Systems | |||||||||||
British Tech/Adj |
French | UIAA |
Saxon |
Ewbank (Australia, NZ & South Africa) | Finnish | Norwegian | Brazilian | |||
5.2 | 1 | I | I | Isup | |||||||
5.4 | 3 | III | III | 12 | 3 | IIsup | |||||
5.5 | 4a | VD | 4 | IV | IV | 12 | 4 | III | |||
5.6 | S | 5a | V+ | V | 13 | 5− | 5− | IIIsup | |||
5.7 | 4b | HS | 5b | VI- | VI | 14 | 5 | 5 | IV | ||
4c | 15 | ||||||||||
5.8 | VS | 5c | VI | VIIa | 16 | 5+ | 5+ | IVsup | |||
5.9 | 5a | HVS | 6a | VI+ | VIIb | 17 | 6− | V | |||
5.10a | E1 | 6a+ | VII- | VIIc | 18 | 6− | 6−/6 | VI | |||
5.10b | 5b | 6b | VII | 19 | 6 | VI/VI+ | |||||
5.10c | E2 | 6b+ | VII+ | VIIIa | 20 | 6 | 6+ | VIsup/VI+ | |||
5.10d | 5c | 6c | VIIIb | 21 | 7- | VIsup | |||||
5.11a | E3 | 6c+ | VIII− | VIIIc | 22 | 6+ | 7 | 7a | |||
5.11b | 6c+ | VIII- | 23 | 7b | |||||||
5.11c | 6a | E4 | 7a | VIII | IXa | 24 | 7− | 7+ | 7c | ||
5.11d | 7a | VIII | IXb | 7c | |||||||
5.12a | E5 | 7a+ | VIII+ | IXc | 25 | 7+ | 7+/8− | 8a | |||
5.12b | 6b | 7b | 26 | 8− | 8- | 8b | |||||
5.12c | E6 | 7b+ | IX− | Xa | 27 | 8 | 8 | 8c | |||
5.12d | 6c | 7c | IX | Xb | 28 | 8+ | 8/8+ | 9a | |||
5.13a | E7 | 7c+ | IX+ | Xc | 29 | 9− | 8+ | 9b | |||
5.13b | 8a | 9 | 9- | 9c | |||||||
5.13c | 7a | 8a+ | X− | 30 | 9+ | 9−/9 | 10a | ||||
5.13d | E8 | 8b | X | 31 | 10− | 9 | 10b | ||||
5.14a | 8b+ | X+ | 32 | 10 | 9/9+ | 10c | |||||
5.14b | 7b | 8c | 33 | 10+ | 9+ | 11a | |||||
5.14c | E9 | 8c+ | XI− | 34 | 11− | 10− | 11b | ||||
5.14d | 7c | 9a | XI | 35 | 11 | 10 | 11c | ||||
5.15a | 9a+ | XI+ | 10+ | 12a | |||||||
5.15b | 9b | 12b |
The following grades are used for the rating of boulder problems throughout the world. Although fundamental differences in climbing style make direct comparison between bouldering and route climbing difficult, the colors in the above and below tables roughly correspond to equivalent sets of grades.
Bouldering Rating Systems | ||
Hueco (USA) |
B | Font. (French) |
V2 | B4 | 6a |
V3 | B5 | 6a+ |
V4 | B6 | 6b/c |
V5 | 6c+ | |
V6 | B7 | 7a |
V7 | B8 | 7a+ |
V8 | 7b+ | |
V9 | B9 | 7c |
V10 | B10 | 7c+ |
V11 | B11 | 8a |
V12 | B12 | 8a+ |
V13 | B13 | 8b |
V14 | B14 | 8b+ |
V15 | B15 | 8c |
V16 | B16 | 8c+ |


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