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Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers, 2nd EditionISBN: 978-1-4051-3415-6
526 pages
March 2010, Wiley-Blackwell
• Offers a complete linguistic treatment of the
history of the Greek language
• Updated second edition features increased coverage of
the ancient evidence, as well as the roots and development of
• Includes maps that clearly illustrate the distribution
of ancient dialects and the geographical spread of Greek in the
early Middle Ages
Table of Contents
Preface to the Second Edition xv
IPA Chart xvii
The Greek Alphabet xviii
Introduction: The Scope and Purpose of This Book 1
PART I Ancient Greek: From Mycenae to the Roman Empire 7
1 The Ancient Greek Dialects 9
2 Classical Greek: Official and Literary 'Standards' 43
3 The Rise of Attic 67
4 Greek in the Hellenistic World 79
5 Greek in the Roman Empire 124
6 Spoken Koine in the Roman Period 160
PART II Byzantium: From Constantine I to Mehmet the Conqueror 189
7 Historical Prelude 191
8 Greek in the Byzantine Empire: The Major Issues 207
9 Byzantine Belles Lettres 231
10 The Written Koine in Byzantium 244
11 Spoken Greek in the Byzantine Empire: The Principal Developments 273
12 Texts in the 'Vernacular' 325
PART III Modern Greek: From the Ottoman Empire to the European Union 371
13 Ottoman Rule and the War of Independence 373
14 Spoken Greek in the Ottoman Period 379
15 Written Greek in the Turkish Period 413
16 The History of the Modern Greek State 428
17 The 'Language Question' and its Resolution 438
Bibliography 471
Index 493
Author Information
The Wiley Advantage
- Offers a complete linguistic treatment of the history of the Greek language from the Mycenaean period of the second millennium BC to the current day
- Updated and expanded second edition features increased coverage of the ancient evidence, as well as the roots and development of diglossia
- Explores the evolution of the Greek language in its regional and social heterogeneity and in both its spoken and written forms
- Includes maps that clearly illustrate the distribution of ancient dialects and the geographical spread of Greek in the early Middle Ages
"The text is likewise to be recommended to individuals interested in the effects of politics, military history, and culture on the history of language. In fact, perhaps one of Horrocks' greatest achievements is the skill with which he demonstrates the special value of the history of Greek, thinking about the Greek language in terms of breadth and depth that are unusual among linguists working on Greek." (Bryn Mawr Classical Review, 9 May 2011)
This second takes account of reviews of the first and of the 2006 Greek translation." (Book News Inc, November 2010)
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"Horrocks has outdone himself. The 1st edition was as good an overview of the entire history of Greek as there is, yet this 2nd edition improves on that, with added material on all periods of Greek. This important work is well-written, informative, and interesting."
Brian D. Joseph, The Ohio State University
"Horrocks offers an exemplary, and unique, survey of the development of the Greek language from its Mycenaean beginnings to the present day, with a particular emphasis on the reasons for Greek's linguistic conservatism. Widely read and much praised in its first edition, this expanded and revised second edition is to be recommended even more highly to all those interested in Greek of any period.
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Song, sexual selection, and a song control nucleus (HVc) in the brains of European sedge warblers
Airey, D. C., Buchanan, K. L., Szekely, T., Catchpole, C. K. and DeVoogd, T. J., 2000. Song, sexual selection, and a song control nucleus (HVc) in the brains of European sedge warblers. Journal of Neurobiology, 44 (1), pp. 1-6.
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Female sedge warblers select males that have more complex songs as mates. This study tests two predictions concerning HVc, a telencephalic nucleus that is essential for song learning and production: first, that males with more complex songs will have a larger HVc, and second that males who pair successfully will have a larger HVc than unpaired males. Data on song composition and pairing status were collected from wild sedge warblers breeding in Hungary. We found significant positive correlations between three song attributes (repertoire size, song complexity, and song length) and the size of HVc. Males that paired successfully also had more complex songs (repertoire size and song complexity, though not song length) than males that did not. However, we find no direct evidence that males who paired successfully had a larger HVc than unpaired males. These findings are discussed in relation to the possible functions of HVc and also to current views on sexual selection and the evolution of the song control pathway.
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Sprite (Moo to her foster family) is a darling little pied girl. Her mom wrote us with this detailed update last week. And some great photos!
"It's been a busy week. Busy with cleaning. Sprite, or Moo as we've ended up calling her here, has one accident a day. For a couple of days it was peeing in her crate in the afternoon. I had a pillow in it and it went through the wash a couple of times as a result. Then around midnight she peed on her dog bed, which is next to my side of the bed. My boyfriend woke me up as he could hear it happening (I was dead asleep). There was another pee in the stairwell yesterday while we were waiting for Zadie, my little slow poke, to get down the stairs. Can't quite figure it out, except she seems to like to pee on pillows and she will pee in the stairwell if she has to wait for Zadie. Although the pillows seem to be a much more consistent trigger. It's a shame because she came with a nice big dog bed but the last two nights she's been sleeping on my housecoat.
Since my last email I've noticed that she is protective/possessive of her food around Zadie but will let me take it away from her without a fuss.
Zadie tests Moo's patience, and mine, with her puppy shenanigans. When it's too much I've been crating Zadie as she doesn't mind it and it calms her down. Moo has always been fine with the play biting, pawing, and barking.
...I haven't yet taken Moo to the vet but would like to on the weekend & get her left ear rechecked. It still looks swollen and I'm running out of antibiotic ointment. Moo's fur is still coming out at her back end & she's starting licking her front paws. Perhaps a course of Benadryl would help her out. Something to talk to the vet about.
Moo walks on the slow side with rolling hips but isn't in pain. I still carry her up & down the stairs. There is no knuckling. Moo lets out a little warning bark if she hears unusual noise, but she doesn't get carried away."
All this piddling on pillows puts us in mind of a pup who is making her mark in a new place after a few moves in a row. Could be that she wants the world to know the comfy pillow is SPRITE'S pillow! We hope she soon settles in and feels that she doesn't have to leave her mark everywhere. She'll be much easier to live with when she feels more confident, asserts
The Frog Princess
Thursday, July 15
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No more pees on pillows since I sent this in. I think we're making progress. She's a sweetie and will be a devoted dog to some lucky person.


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Melbourne doesn't have anything to match the drop-dead-spectacular beauty of Sydney.
Monday, November 5, 2012
Guest Author Luke Preston
Melbourne doesn't have anything to match the drop-dead-spectacular beauty of Sydney.
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Luke, Luke, you're not supposed to let on! We're NAICE here in Melbun! We hide our mean streets, and here you go blabbing about them! I don't know, anyone would think you were a crime writer...
It's easy to forget, when dining at the Windsor or clopping around the Domain in a horse and cart, that Melbourne is essentially a port city and still retains some of that in places.My own local, the Edinburgh Castle in Brunswick, used to be the first stop for those recently released from the old Pentridge Prison. I remember playing pool there in the early-1990s. When my pool partner put 'Jailbreak' on the jukebox, an old timer with prison tatts and no teeth shouted, 'Who put this on?' When my pool partner bravely raised his hand, the old timer clapped him on the back and said, 'Maaaaaate.'


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Wednesday, 17 June 2009
No privacy for pseudonymous bloggers
In a decision released yesterday (available from BAILII here), a pseudonymous blogger has failed in his attempt to prevent his real identity from being revealed. The blogger, previously only known as 'Night Jack', has now been revealed (see also here & here) as Richard Horton, a detective working for the Lancashire constabulary.
(right: this is all you will see now if you go to nightjack.wordpress.com)
Some people write blogs under pseudonyms as a bit of fun, and would not be too bothered if their real identity were to be revealed. Others, however, who perhaps think that they can hide their true identity and write blogs that could be damaging to them if their readers knew who they really were, might want to reconsider what right they have to protect their anonymity in light of this judgment.
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And presumably comment-makers won't be able to preserve their anonymity either...
- Wednesday, 17 June 2009 at 09:07:00 BST
...and what would The Times have done, if it had found out, before Saddam Hussein was deposed, the identity of blogger Salam Pax, that intellectual who risked his life with his informative reports from inside Iraq? Would Mr Pax have been able to count on any protection from the European Convention on Human Rights, or indeed from Mr Eady?
- Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 12:23:00 BST
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the Bishop is, there let the multitude of believers be; |
Abdominal problems | St. Elmo (Erasmus) |
Alcoholism | St. John of God |
Angina | St. Swithbert |
Appendicitis | St. Erasmus |
Arthritis | St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori |
Bacterial infection | St. Agrippina |
Blindness | St. Raphael the Archangel, St. Lucy |
Breast disease | St. Agatha |
Broken bones | St. Drogo |
Cancer | St. Peregrine |
Chest problems | St. Bernadine of Siena |
Childbirth | St. Anne, Our Lady ("Madonna del Parto," or "Our Lady of Childbirth"), St. Margaret of Antioch, St. Elmo (Erasmus), St. Raymond Nonnantus |
Cramps | St. Maurice |
Deafness | St. Francis de Sales |
Death | a holy and happy death: St. Joseph, St. Benedict; against temptation at the time of death: St. Cyriacus; against sudden death: St. Barbara, St. Christopher, St. Catherine of Alexandria |
Depression | St. Dymphna |
Drug addiction | St. Maximilian Kolbe |
Dying | St. Joseph |
Dysentery | St. Lucy, St. Polycarp of Smyrna |
Earache | St. Cornelius |
Epilepsy & fainting | St. Vitus, St. Dymphna, St. Christopher, St. Valentine, St. Vibiana |
Eye conditions | St. Lucy |
Feet Conditions | St. Peter |
Fever | St. Barbara, St. Genevieve, St. Peter |
Gallstones | St. Benedict |
Gout | St. Maurus |
Hangovers | St. Vibiana |
Headache | St. Denis, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Vibiana, St. Stephen the Deacon, St. Thomas a Becket |
Head injury | St. John Licci, St. Stephen the Deacon, St. Thomas a Becket |
Heart problems | St. John of God |
Hemorrhage | St. Lucy |
Hernia | SS. Cosmas and Damian |
Herpes | St. George |
Infection | St. Agrippina |
Infertility | St. Anthony of Padua, St. Anne, Mary (especially under her title of Maria Bambina) |
Inflammatory diseases | St. Benedict |
Intestinal & stomach diseases | St. Charles Borromeo |
Invalids | St. Roch |
Insect bites | St. Mark the Apostle |
Kidney diseases | St. Margaret of Antioch |
Kidney stones | St. Alban of Mainz |
Knee problems | St. Roch |
Leg problems | St. Servatus |
Leprosy | St. Lazarus |
Loss of milk for nursing | St. Margaret of Antioch |
Lumbago | St. Lawrence |
Lung problems | St. Bernardine of Siena |
Mental illness | St. Dymphna, St. Vibiana |
Neck stiffness | St. Ursicinus of Saint-Ursanne |
Neuralgia | St. Ubaldus Baldassini |
Neurological diseases | Bartholomew the Apostle, St. Dymphna |
Nightmares | St. Raphael the Archangel |
Open sores | St. Peregrine |
Pain | St. Madron |
Paralysis | St. Wolfgang |
Plagues | St. Christopher, St. Giles |
Polio | St. Margaret Mary Alacoque |
Pregnancy, safe | St. Anne, St. Margaret of Antioch, St. Elizabeth, St. Gerard Majella, St. Joseph (Patron of expectant mothers) |
Rheumatism | St. Alphonsus Liguori |
Seasickness | St. Erasmus |
Skin diseases | St. Anthony of the Desert (i.e., Anthony the Abbot) |
Smallpox | St. Matthias |
Snakebites | St. Patrick, St. Hilary of Poitiers, St. Paul the Apostle, St. Vitus |
Sterility | St. Anthony of Padua (St. Felicity is invoked to have a male child in particular. Unofficially, Maria Bambina is invoked by couples trying to conceive.) |
Stroke | St. Andrew Avellino |
Sudden death, against | St. Barbara |
Throat diseases | St. Blaise, St. Ignatius of Antioch |
Toothache | St. Apollonia |
Tuberculosis | St. Therese of Lisieux |
Venereal diseases | St. Fiacre |
Wounds | St. Rita of Cascia |
Sickness in general | St. Raphael the Archangel, St. John of God, St. Camillus of Lellis, St. Bernadette of Lourdes, St. Catherine of Siena, St. Lydwina of Schiedam, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Maria Mazzarello |
Desperate causes | St. Jude, St. Rita of Cascia |
Nurses | St. John of God, St. Agatha, St. Raphael the Archangel, St. Camillus of Lellis |
Midwives, obstetricians | St. Brigid of Ireland, St. Raymund Nonnatus, St. Margaret of Cortona |
Doctors and surgeons | St. Luke, SS. Cosmas and Damian, St. Pantaleon, St. Raphael the Archangel |
Hospital workers | St. John of God, St. Vincent de Paul, St. Camillus |
Hospital administrators | St. Basil the Great, St. Frances Xavier Cabrini |
Pharmacists | St. James the Less |
Almost all cultures have some ritually offered words for someone who sneezes -- the ancient Greeks, the American Indians, the rabbinical Jews, Asians, etc. Many of these groups (Talmudic Jews included) believed that sneezes could be mortal, that the soul could leave the body through the mouth during a sneeze. It is Pope St. Gregory the Great, however, whom we have to thank for the practice of saying "God bless you" after someone sneezes. He was Pope during a time when Rome was ravaged by a certain pestilence, the symptoms of which were sneezing and yawning. In A.D. 600, he decreed that when someone sneezes, one should respond with "God bless you" to ask God's blessings for the person's health, and that when a person yawns, the Sign of the Cross should be made on his mouth.


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My car seems to get "hot" when it is idle at an intersection after driving about 1.5 miles. Then when I park it, all of the anti-freeze runs out the bottom of my car. I keep oil in it. Do I have a problem with a hose connection?
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At 1:58 pm on June 8, 1967, Capt. Yiftach Spector lined up his Mirage IIICJ fighter jet above the USS Liberty and raked it from bow to stern with his armored-piercing bullets from his 30 mm guns.
Even now, 37 years later, the attack by the Air Force on the American spy ship on the fourth day of the Six Days' War fuels the fire of intrigue, conspiracy and cover-up theories. Nevertheless, what follows is powerful evidence that the attack was a tragic mistake.
The Israel Air Force archives have audiotapes of the radio transmissions made prior, during and after the attack. They have never been made public. The Jerusalem Post was allowed to listen to these tapes on an exclusive basis together with other Air Force historians. Here, for the first time, the actual transcripts of the radio transmissions between the pilot and ground station appear in the press.
Historians will be the first to say that raw material needs context. Therefore, it is important to present the entire unedited transcript of the attack to prevent Israel bashers from dissecting out the unflattering and incriminating comments and using them out of context.
This said, it is also vital that the text be annotated, translated from the jargon of 1967 Air Force language, to one that can be understood today.
There are a number of dramatic moments, including jockey calls by a pilot: that it would be a "mitzvah" to sink the ship before the Navy arrived and another says it was 'easier than MiGs.'
Another is when suddenly, in the middle of the attack, an unknown voice cuts in from the side: "What is this? What about the Americans?" And finally, the confusion over the identity is dwarfed by the split second decision making made by the chief air controller Col. Shmuel Kislev.
Obviously, listening to the tapes sends chills down one's spine.
The pilots speak only before and after they act. There are full minutes of almost total silence and you know that men are being killed.
The only sound is of an automated female voice of the time being red out every 20 seconds. "The time is now 14 and two minutes."
There are two tapes, one of the radio transmissions between the pilots and controllers, and the other is of telephone conversations between the chief air controller and regional air controllers. The audiotapes themselves were not released. The following transcript is a mix of the two tapes into one transcript, which explains the time overlaps.
Cast of characters: Homeland - Air Controllers Kislev - chief air controller at general headquarters in Tel Aviv Menachem - chief air controller at Air Control South Yigal - Menachem's deputy Robert - chief air controller at Air Control Central Shimon - Robert's deputy L.K. - Capt. Lazar Karni, weapons system officer Kursa - two-ship formation of Mirage IIICJs commanded by Capt. Yiftach Spector Royal - two-ship formation of Super-Mysteres that made the second run on Liberty Nixon - two-ship formation of Mysteres armed with bombs for third strike Pagoda - three torpedo boats commanded by Lt.-Cmdr. Moshe Oren Migdal - one of the three torpedo boats that communicates with the pilots
Background: The Navy has just identified a mysterious vessel off El Arish possibly shelling the ammo depot on the beach. It dispatched three torpedo boats against it, but has asked the Air Force to intercept the ship.
13:50 KISLEV: Yigal, you have a ship at 26 (site designation). Take Kursa over there. If it's a warship then screw it.
YIGAL Clear
13:51 UNKNOWN Wait a minute Kislev. The Navy says that our torpedo boats are in the area and are called Pagoda. They're on frequency 186.
KISLEV If it is a warship you can attack. There are two of our torpedo boats there and they want (the pilots) to either see them or contact them on frequency 186. (There were actually three boats) Robert, do you have Royal?
ROBERT Royal?
SHIMON He is at Hava 16 (grid coordinates) That's route 15.
KISLEV Robert, take Royal along the coast so that if Kursa identifies then he'll be able to go in too.
ROBERT All right
KISLEV Menachem, how much fuel does Kursa have?
MENACHEM he has a lot. About a minute ago he had 3000 (liters)
13:52 KURSA What's the range? Seven turns, 040 degrees. Roger, I'll stay on 19 and 9 (frequencies). How do you call the torpedo boats? Pagoda? Kursa 9 and 3.
13:53 KURSA Homeland, keep on directing me to the place.
HOMELAND 045 degrees, 20 miles. Ah, can you see them at the moment?
13:54 KURSA Affirmative, it looks longer by eyesight.
LK What is this? Americans? (the weapons system officer in the general headquarters blurted out in what he later testified was a hunch.)
SHOMON Where are Americans?
KISLEV Robert, what are you saying?
(quickly disregarding the comment, Kislev moves on)
KISLEV Does he see more torpedo boats north of him?
13:55 KISLEV Menachem, if there are three torpedo boats, then this could be ours. (he is aware of the correct number of boats now)
SHIMON Pay attention, Kursa
13:55 KURSA Pagoda from Kursa. Migdal?
MIGDAL Affirmative
KURSA Are You attacking some ship now?
MIGDAL We're on our way to one.
KURSA OK. I'll come and give you a hand. Where are you?
KURSA Migdal from Kursa. Are you three? There is no need. Bring yourselves up some 10-15 kilometers from the ship. Is it in the direction of your home?
KURSA I see you on a right turn. Why are you turning? It's not in that direction.
MIGDAL OK, all right. Affirmative Affirmative.
13:56 MIGDAL Can you identify the target?
KURSA Can you identify his target, Migdal?
KURSA She's running from you in the direction of El Arish, correction, Port Said. What is it? What is it? A destroyer? A patrol boat? What is it?
MIGDAL Kursa, Can you manage to identify it?
KURSA I can't identify it, but in any case it's a military ship.
MIGDAL OK, what is it?
KURSA It has one mast and one smokestack
MIGDAL Roger
KURSA It has one mast up front.
13:56 SHIMON Menachem, Kursa is calling you.
SHIMON He says he is starting to strafe them.
MENACHEM I told him that if it is a warship then he has authorization to attack. That was the last command.
KISLEV Menachem
MENACHEM Does he have authorization to attack?
KISLEV He does. If this is a warship then yes. Royal is to be directed to there.
KISLEV Send Royal over there with bombs
ROBERT On what frequency are you attacking?
SHIMON She's running away from this (he says this as he monitors the Liberty on his radar screen)
KISLEV Menachem, after he attacks have him explain to Royal how to find her.
SHIMON She's fleeing very fast.
KISLEV OK, attack.
SHIMON Robert, have Royal call us on 19.
ROBERT Royal to you on 19.
13:57 SHIMON Just a second, Kislev, we see the ship. (on radar) That's one hell of a ship.
ROBERT Menachem, I passing 105th (Super Mysteres squadron) to you on 19. Royal (over) El Arish at 20 (20,000 feet)
KISLEV Menachem, have (Kursa) tell us if there is anti-aircraft fire.
13:58 KISLEV Menachem, nu?
MENACHEM We're asking him. She's not shooting back.
KISLEV Not shooting? Give me 19. (his voice has a puzzled expression)
13:59 KURSA We've hit her a lot ...but maybe she is doing it (putting out smoke) on purpose, I don't know. Oil is spilling out into the water. I'm in eye contact. Great! Wonderful! She's burning! She's burning!
MENACHEM Did you hear? He's hit her a lot. There's a lot of black smoke. There's an oil leak into the water. He's continuing.
KISLEV Was there any anti-aircraft fire on him?
MENACHEM She's burning! The warship is burning!
MENACHEM Shumlik, she's burning! The moment Kursa is finished we're sending in Royal.(he uses Kislev's first name Shmulik in his excitement)
KISLEV That's right, to sink her. (he says this flatly)
MENACHEM To sink her, OK.
14:00 ROYAL Eye contact with the target. Eye contact with Kursa. Royal requests 15 (15,000 feet)
KURSA OK, Kursa is coming in ..you a bit further in. I'll go in the direction OK (his comments are to his wingman)
KURSA I think she is putting out smoke on purpose. It's coming out of the smokestack. OK. I'm finished too. The ship is really burning. There is a large fire and a lot of black smoke.
14:01 KURSA Royal, you altitude? We're at 5 (5,000 feet).
ROYAL You're east, right?
KURSA We're south of the ship.
14:01 KISLEV Menachem
MENACHEM We're sending in Royal
KISLEV Good
ROBERT (garbled) this ship?
KISLEV Menachem, if Royal has napalm it would be more efficient.
14:02 KURSA Affirmative
ROYAL Not ours?
ROYAL Homeland, can you hear? Call Homeland on 19. Ask if it's allowed to go in.
ROYAL I understand do not go in. Fine. We're circling above the ship at 15. (15,000 feet) Tell him that the Navy will be arriving before us. I can see.
14:02 SHIMON Menachem, Royal is calling you.
MENACHEM He got off the line
KURSA I've got him. (Kursa is relaying to control for Royal)
ROYAL Does Royal have permission?
[20 empty seconds pass]
SHIMON Kislev, there's doubt as to the identification.
KISLEV If there is a doubt, don't attack.
SHIMON Don't attack Menachem.
ROBERT Pay attention. There is doubt as to the identification. (Robert consults with a naval liaison officer in his headquarters)
KISLEV What does that mean?
ROBERT OK, you can go in. (apparently resolving the issue with the Navy)
KISLEV You may go in.
KURSA Affirmative, you have permission, Royal.
14:02 ROYAL Sausages, in the middle and up in one pass. Two together. (he instructs his wingman on dropping the napalm) We'll come in from the rear. Watch out for the masts. Don't hit the masts, careful of the masts. I'll come in from her left, you come behind me.
SHIMON Next formation - get a briefing on what took place.
14:03 ROBERT Authorized to sink her?
KISLEV You can sink her.
SHIMON Royal is exchanging words. They started chatting
ROBERT One Eight (sector coordinates) that is not the ship. Wait a minute
14:04 KISLEV Menachem, Is he screwing her?
MENACHEM He's going down on her with napalm all the time.
KISLEV You don't need anymore for the ship. Enough.
MENACHEM There is no need. Our forces are there. The Navy's there too.
SHIMON It'll be worth it just for the insurance.
KISLEV But napalm went there.
UNKOWN What does napalm do (to a ship?)
14:04 ROYAL on the right side of the stern ..
14:05 ROYAL WING You've missed by an undershot.
ROYAL a deep gash
14:05 KISLEV What is Kursa reporting? Was there any ant-aircraft fire?
MENACHIM I've passed him on to 33 (frequency) and asked for a report.
KISLEV Robert, ask Kursa if there was any anti-aircraft fire.
ROBERT Kislev, the Navy asks not to sink her completely. They want to get close and have a look.
SHIMON Have them rescue the people with the torpedo boats to help.
ROBERT OK, finish with this formation. The torpedoes are coming up to the them.
14:06 KISLEV What does Kursa say?
ROBERT I'm telling you already. 'This is easier than (shooting down) MiGs.'
KISLEV What is the situation now?
UNKNOWN I don't know. Two (Royal wingman) hit the ship with (napalm) and now he's strafing.
14:07 ROYAL Fine pull up.
ROYAL I'm behind you. Careful of her antennas.
14:08 ROYAL Homeland from Royal, how do you hear me? She has some kind of marking, P30 and something.
KISLEV Robert, take formation 116 (Nixon) out there too.
ROBERT Good
MENACHEM Her marking (he is cut off by Kislev)
KISLEV Yes I heard. We are checking.
14:09 ROYAL Homeland, if you could have a two-ship formation with bombs (here) before the Navy arrives then it would be a mitzvah. Otherwise the Navy will be here in 10 minutes.
SHIMON Before the Navy arrives, it will be a mitzvah.
KISLEV In the meantime take formation 116 (Nixon). Who is checking this? (the mysterious markings on the ship)
SHIMON Royal reported that it would be a mitzvah before the Navy comes!
KISLEV Look for a flag if they can see one. Have Royal look. See if they can identify her with a flag.
14:10 ROYAL Twelve o'clock ..look higher. Now left, slowly, slowly a bit faster so it will stay external, OK?
14:10 ROBERT Kislev, they (the Navy) are asking us not to do anything else about her. They want to take her. It's a pity to sink her. I want to receive an answer.
KISLEV No, no, We are attacking meanwhile.
14:11 ROBERT Menachem, Is Royal leaving?
MENACHEM Not yet. Just a moment. He is reporting something.
KISLEV OK attack, Menachem (he orders Nixon in for a third strike)
ROBERT Menachem, has Royal left?
MENACHEM Not yet.
14:11 ROYAL Homeland from Royal, do you read me? Pay attention. This ship's markings are Charlie-Tango-Romeo 5. There is no flag on her! She looks like a minesweeper with that marking. Roger, I'm leaving her. I'm staying around one more minute. (the Liberty's correct markings were GTR-5)
14:12 ROBERT What altitude? What altitude is Royal reaching?
MENACHEM Charlie-Senator-Romeo (he incorrectly recalls CSR-5)
KISLEV Leave her! (his flat tone changes dramatically as he realizes this was no Egyptian ship)
ROBERT Leave her. What ship is this?
KISLEV Leave her. (he says tersely) Menachem report the approximate damage. (Redirect) 116 to its original mission.
14:13 ROYAL Homeland, there's external fire on her, a lot of hits on her upper parts. People are jumping into the water. She's not shooting at all. She has hardly any armaments on her. She's going full steam towards the north.
KISLEV Shimon, Robert. We're sending two helicopters to them.
ROBERT Good. Clear. I am dispatching helicopters.
14:14 MENACHEM Kislev, what country?
KISLEV Apparently American.
Coverup There are two negative stories about Israel-US relations that refuse to die and are raised periodically. One of them is the Pollard espionage affair and the other is the attack on the USS Liberty. They often are mentioned in the same breath.
Dozens of books have been written and documentaries made on the attack that killed 34 US sailors and wounded over 170. At least ten official US and three Israeli investigations concluded it was the result of a tragic mistake made in the heat of battle. But for some in the world it was inconceivable that the Israeli intelligence which orchestrated the enormous victory of the Six Days' War could have made such a gross mistake. There must be another explanation.
"There isn't," says Michael Oren, author of the acclaimed Six Days of War and senior fellow at The Shalem Center in Jerusalem. "Conspiracy theories in general live, and regarding Jews and Israel they are immortal."
"They don't die because they tap into the notion or belief of an international Jewish cabal, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion thing," he says. "The USS Liberty conspiracists all claim that Israel uses its lobbies and threaten to withhold support to anyone critical of the country. It is nefarious and sinister. It is anti-Semitism."
Besides that, the incident includes terrific elements for conspiracies, Oren says.
"It involves a spy ship. It involves Israel committing an egregious error in the middle of a war where it was perceived to have been flawless. The combination of the NSA (National Security Agency) and the Israeli Air Force is a conspiracy theorists dream,"
Oren says, adding there was little Israel could to do fight it.
Meanwhile, the survivors of the USS Liberty continue to gather to remember their friends, but also to perpetuate the conspiracy that not only were deliberately attacked, but that it was covered up at the highest American and Israeli levels.
Less than 20 of the hundreds of survivors came to this year's memorial held two weeks ago (May 22) in Nebraska City, Nebraska.
"We all believe we're finally getting to the point where the truth may be told and the world is ready to listen," says Cmdr. David Lewis, who oversaw intelligence on the ship and remembers most of the attack that left him with superficial burns and destroyed his eardrums.
The view from the cockpit Of the four pilots who took part in the attack, three are alive today. One died in 1979 during an aviation accident. For years their identities were classified. Last October, Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Yiftach Spector agreed to be identified and gave an exclusive interview on the attack to this reporter. Here are some of his comments.
"There was a mistake. Mistakes happen. As far as I know, the mistake was of the USS Liberty being there in the first place," said Spector, who at the time was deputy squadron commander of the 101st and used the code name "Kursa" during the attack.
"I did not fire on the Liberty as a human target. I was sent to attack a sailing vessel. This ship was on an escape route from the El Arish area which at that same moment had heavy smoke rising from it," said Spector.
He had been on an air-to-air mission and was not loaded with bombs.
"I was told on the radio that it was an Egyptian ship off the Gaza coast. Hit it. The luck of the ship was that I was armed only with light ammunition (30mm) against aircraft. If I had had a bomb it would be sitting on the bottom today like the Titanic. I promise you," Spector said.
"Every order is given by commanders and the last one to receive it has to decide whether he will pull the trigger or not. In this instance I was the fighter. I checked what I had to check (i.e. that it was a military ship and not one of ours) and pulled the trigger," Spector said.
"The crew should be thankful for their luck (that I was on an air-to-air mission and did not have any bombs) I'm sorry for poor Capt. (William Loren) McGonagle whose leg was wounded and the other guys who were killed and wounded."
"I'm sorry for the mistake. In war mistakes happen," Spector said. "But it wasn't my mistake."
He added he remained baffled that the conspiracy theories live on that Israel deliberately attacked the US intelligence ship. He suggested it might be due to anti-Semitism, or anti-Israeli sentiments. He has never in the past 37 years ever met with any of the Liberty survivors, but had no qualms about doing so now.
"These people never, ever spoke to me. Perhaps they are anti-Semites? Or these guys feel hurt and are looking for guilty parties, maybe to get compensation, or money? I am not afraid to meet them. Anyone who wants to meet with me is welcome. I don't have any claims against them. I don't want any compensation from them or anything. If they want they can look me up. And they best not deal with lies and deception since it won't help. It's best they tell the truth."
"They must understand that a mistake was made here," Spector said. "The fool is one who wanders about in the dark in dangerous places, so they should not come with any complaints."
Spector, 63, who went on to become a triple ace shooting down 15 enemy aircraft, base commander and took part in the infamous 1981 raid on the Iraqi nuclear reactor, earned a place in the pantheon of Israeli fly boys. He has spent the past 20 years teaching new generation of fliers. He was dismissed from the IAF last year for signing a letter with other pilots protesting the policy of targeted killings.
Somebody posted a few weeks back that the only friends the Israelis have are the Israelis. I believe it.
It's going to take a lot more than mere evidence - no matter how powerful - to convince the tinfoilers and enemies of Israel of that. It's going to take a miracle -- their blind hatred will have to be disgarded.
My question is, why was there no American flag flying on this ship?
"I'm sorry for the mistake. In war mistakes happen," Spector said. "But it wasn't my mistake."
He added he remained baffled that the conspiracy theories live on that Israel deliberately attacked the US intelligence ship. He suggested it might be due to anti-Semitism, or anti-Israeli sentiments. He has never in the past 37 years ever met with any of the Liberty survivors, but had no qualms about doing so now.
"These people never, ever spoke to me. Perhaps they are anti-Semites? Or these guys feel hurt and are looking for guilty parties, maybe to get compensation, or money? I am not afraid to meet them. Anyone who wants to meet with me is welcome. I don't have any claims against them. I don't want any compensation from them or anything. If they want they can look me up. And they best not deal with lies and deception since it won't help. It's best they tell the truth."
"They must understand that a mistake was made here," Spector said. "The fool is one who wanders about in the dark in dangerous places, so they should not come with any complaints."
I am a friend to Israel - but these remarks are hateful. This man killed MANY Americans, and he has no apologies, only "anti-semitism" smears against the survivors of the Liberty. Outrageous statements fuel outrageous theories; Israel would do well to tell Spector to shut his mouth.
Can you imagine the outcry if Americans bombed an Israeli ship, killed 34 soldiers, wounded 171, then spoke this way? It is wrong to speak this way, no matter how right Israel may be in this world - for they have had no finer friend than America. It makes me sad to hear this.
Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.
The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.
Taken from here. Some interesting differences.
Reference to Evans and Novak's story can be found here:
According to this report, Evans and Novak took liberties with some of the sources - not difficult to imagine.
"In 1991, columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak trumpeted their discovery of an American who said he had been in the Israeli war room when the decision was made to knowingly attack the American ship.4 In fact, that individual, Seth Mintz, wrote a letter to the Washington Post on November 9, 1991, in which he said he was misquoted by Evans and Novak and that the attack, was, in fact, a "case of mistaken identity." Moreover, the man who Mintz originally said had been with him, a Gen. Benni Matti, does not exist."
All things considered, the case is intriguing, but far more damage is done by unapologetic statements from Spector (calling the men of the Liberty "fools"), than from any historical fact which has come to light.
Dang it - story found HERE:
Ah well, there's always Roswell.
Thanks for that.
"I am a friend to Israel - but these remarks are hateful. This man killed MANY Americans, and he has no apologies, only "anti-semitism" smears against the survivors of the Liberty."
Gosh, ALMOST as bad as accusing people of deliberate murder who actually made a mistake, huh?
I agree with you 100%.
Uh, yes. Especially considering the propensity of evidence.
With heros like Spector it's no wonder israel finds little sympathy. When I read this guy's quotes I was utterly disgusted. Sounds like those folks were quite trigger happy and had no compunctions about murdering a wounded unidentified "foe".
And yeah, I'm sure the survivors wake up every god damn day thanking jesus that schmuck wasn't armed with a bomb. Wow, thanks for small miracles.
According to this guy he didn't make a mistake. It's all the fault of the people who died...
And anyone that dares call him on it must be an "anti-semite".
That makes his "apology" less than worthless.
While this guys comments are insensitive, he is a private citizen and his tone is not that of the government of Israel.
Secondly, like mentioned earlier, this insensitivity PALES in comparrision to 4 decades of smearing an ENTIRE NATION with the INTENTIONAL murder of numerous Americans.
Accidents happen in war, even to the most advanced, trained, and well-meaning armies. Americans know this better then anyone.
Adam_az is defending Spector...
"And yeah, I'm sure the survivors wake up every god damn day thanking jesus that schmuck wasn't armed with a bomb. Wow, thanks for small miracles."
They should wake up every day and wonder why their ship was there in the first place, and why the US didn't notify Israel that it had a ship in the warzone.
Also I don't think you can blame Israel for Spector being a putz. Blame his electorate.
As for the pilots being trigger happy, this was in the middle of a freaking war.
"And anyone that dares call him on it must be an "anti-semite"."
How about garnering some reading comprehension.
He spectulated as for the reason THE SURVIVORS WOULDN'T TALK TO HIM.
"Adam_az is defending Spector..."
Now I know it's not just your reading comprehension - it's your low IQ.
When the man who did it "apolozises" by say it wasn't his fault and that you should be thanking him for not having a bomb on his plane... Well...
Scorn is due. And due to all those who defend him.
"With heros like Spector it's no wonder Israel finds little sympathy. "
I find it best to keep emotion out of my posts, relying instead on logic and fact. However, I'll make an exception for this quote.
Your comment is that of a complete idiot.
To smear the entire country of Israel over the insensitive remarks of a former pilot is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as claiming this as an example of why Israel recieves little sympathy.
In case you resently crawled out of a rock, the reason for the lack of sympathy is:
1. The world has always, and will always, HATE JEWS.
2. The Arabs have all the oil.
No more, no less.
Hey dude, I understand all that stuff. I'm not sayin this guy Spector is guilty of anything. Except being a pretty hateful human being.
He's a pilot. Not a diplomat. The only apologies that really count are those of the government.
Additionally, if this happened in Saudi Arabia, you guys might have more of a point here. Because at least then you know the country as a whole hates Americans.
However, Israel is really the last country deserving of 4 decades of conspiracy theories regarding the intentional murder of Americans.
Israelis love Americans, and everything American. I've seen more American patriotism in Israel then in most parts of California that I've lived in.
This pilot made a mistake in war. A mistake that wasn't directly his fault. We can blame lots of people for this (including, and especially, the NSA or whoever sent this ship there in secret). But the best 'person' to blame is the FOG OF WAR.
"Hey dude, I understand all that stuff. I'm not sayin this guy Spector is guilty of anything. Except being a pretty hateful human being."
I agree. He's an a$$. It happens.
I'm not dumping on Israel.
I am dumping on this guy.
While I mostly agree with that, the man's apology does matter. Especially to those he hurt. His "apology" offers more injury than healing.
As far as what the NSA did, wasn't the ship in international waters? Did it not have every right to be there?
And yes accidents do happen. It is what you do about them once they happen that really matters.
did you have to bring this up now?
It's a lot more complex than that! Well I didn't intend my comment to be a smear of israel by any means. Reading it a second time it definitely didn't quite make the point I was tryin to make. Anyways. to discuss it further would mean endless debate and on and on.. . :)
So I take my comments back except to say. I damn sure hope this guy isn't indicative of israeli military hero's, or israelis in general. :)
Typical ATC pukes. Lead you into disaster then after it's too late, record something on the tapes to make it sound like they warned you off.
Unmitigated garbage. This lousy excuse for a professional military man has had his identity protected for the almost 40 years that have gone by - it's not "antisemitism" that kept the survivors from confronting him.
He and his compatriots didn't bother getting in close to identify a ship before attacking it - they raked it with cannon and rocket fire, then when that didn't cause enough damage, napalmed the thing. The fact that the ship didn't shoot back should've been a major clue. The fact that no one in the attacking aircraft got up on an international radio channel to interrogate the ship to ascertain its identity before attacking is another clue. (The was little chance that a 20-knot ship could get away from 500-knot aircraft during the pause required to get positive identification).
I am and have been a strong supporter of Israel, but this brutal attack remains a festering sore with me and this Air Force Colonel's attitude is callous and insulting to the memory of our murdered and maimed sailors.
The "I was fighting a war and sh_t happens" defense is garbage and the accusation that the survivors are looking for money is scurrilous.
The questions have not been answered and the responses that we have gotten are not satisfactory. How would Israelis have responded if we had attacked them, killed and wounded their young men, then said that "they were lucky that we weren't armed with bombs or we would have sunk them like the Titanic"? Scummy.
I've tested in the same range. My dad has tested higher, so there's hope for me yet.
As for myself, there are times I've wished I were simpler, so welcome to the club. I've learned to often keep my mouth shut offline, but haven't learned the same lesson online.
Let's be honest, you went personal in the attack on this guy, which I believe is unwarranted. Also, you moved the goalpost, which is unfair.
The typical claim by the Liberty activists is that "Israel knew" and attacked the Liberty intentionally.
The worst charge you can make after reading this, is that the pilots were negligent - IE made a mistake.
The Liberty folks for years have charged Israel with intentionally attacking their ship. One of the pilots had offered to meet with them, and was consistently rebuffed, because his story did not match their beliefs... and then you attack the pilot for speculating as to why.
Many WWII vets have met with their Japanese counterparts - and they were bitter enemies during the war. After being rebuffed for years after a friendly fire incident, you might just turn bitter, too.
If you respond, I won't be back home for hours - I'm about to go take the Jeep out to Tonto National Forest to find some pretty scenery and then drive over it. ;)
Oh this thread should be fun to watch...
There was an American flag flying on the ship. They actually used an oversized flag in the hopes that the attacking planes would see it and realize their mistake. I think they used something like a 7 or 10 foot long flag, which is pretty hard to miss from a plane...
But I guess I'm anti-semetic for just not accepting the apology outright.
{He and his compatriots didn't bother getting in close to identify a ship before attacking it - they raked it with cannon and rocket fire, then when that didn't cause enough damage, napalmed the thing. The fact that the ship didn't shoot back should've been a major clue. The fact that no one in the attacking aircraft got up on an international radio channel to interrogate the ship to ascertain its identity before attacking is another clue. (The was little chance that a 20-knot ship could get away from 500-knot aircraft during the pause required to get positive identification).}
Your analysis leaves little room for improvement. Conspiracy theory or no, the baffoons flying those aircraft should have been, at the least, court marshalled.
Instead, arrogant SOB's like Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Yiftach Spector are promoted to base commander. And many on this thread will continue to wonder why the Liberty continues to be a smoldering hot point of US/Israeli relations for some.....
Despite this history, there has been no real investigation, no real accounting, and no real conclusion to the acts that killed and wounded so many American servicemen aboard the Liberty. There are conspiracy theorists in abundance (particularly on this FreeRepublic of ours) because Israel has stonewalled its best friend with inadequate responses and in the case of this IAF officer, unfeeling arrogance. He and all of those in responsibility for that attack should have been court-marshalled. There should have been a meaningful apology and there should be a memorial in Israel to the American men who fell at their hands.
Arutz Sheva IsraelNationalNews.com
Nine "Rebel" Pilots Suspended IAF Commander Gen. Dan Halutz has suspended the nine active pilots who signed last night's "pilots' letter" from further flights. They will be summoned for talks with their base commanders, and if they do not retract their position, they will apparently be discharged from active duty. Those who do retract will be able to fly again only if approved by Gen. Halutz.
Twenty-seven "rebel" Air Force pilots sent a well-publicized letter last night - IAF Commander Gen. Halutz said he received his copy via the media - saying that they refuse to take part in bombing missions against terrorist leaders in Arab towns. Only nine of the signatories are in active service.
They wrote that such missions are "unethical," as they endanger and sometimes kill or wound innocent women, children, and other civilians. In interviews with the press, they did not hide the fact that their action is a "political" one, and that it stems from their political philosophy opposing Israel's presence in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. The pilots wore uniforms during the interviews, in opposition to army regulations forbidding reserve soldiers from speaking to the press while wearing army uniforms.
Foreign Ministry officials say that the pilots' letter will require an intense public relations campaign to counter the expected propaganda attacks on Israel.
IDF leaders reacted with resentment towards the pilots. IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Moshe Yaalon said, "I see political statements dressed up in uniform. This is totally illegitimate. The option of pilots refusing orders because of political claims is absolutely forbidden." IAF Chief Gen. Halutz reacted sharply: "We will hold them to the letter of the law. For the headlines, they call themselves pilots... when in fact 18 of them are not even on active duty... and only two of those serve in units in which they could be called on the missions in question... Some of them are merely serial petition-signers."
More to the point, Halutz said, "The IDF is the most ethical army in the world that I know of. We have no intention of harming civilians, and if it happens that they are harmed, we have apologized."
One of the signers, Brig.-Gen. (res.) Yiftach Spector, was once a commander of Dan Halutz, and served as head of IAF Operations. His current successor in that position, Gen. Eliezer Shakdi, said, "The letter itself was not ethical. Most of them have not been on active duty for a long time, yet they are taking cynical advantage of their past service to express their civilian political opinions."
The letter states, "We, both active and former pilots, who served and continue to serve the State of Israel many weeks each year, object to carrying out attack orders that are illegal and unethical, of the type that the State of Israel carries out in the territories. We, who were taught to love the State of Israel and contribute to the Zionist enterprise, refuse to take part in air attacks in the center of civilian populations. We, for whom the IDF and IAF are integral parts of us, refuse to continue to strike at innocent civilians."
Brig.-Gen. (res.) Effie Eitam, currently Israel's Minister of Housing, called upon the Defense Minister to discharge the pilots: "This is a grave blow to the army's fighting spirit... it knowingly serves the interests of the worst of Israel's enemies."
Deputy Education Minister Tzvi Hendel said, "The ethical level of the extreme left-wing has dropped to an unprecedented low, and it is absolutely unacceptable. This bunch of dissenters must be punished particularly strongly, as their actions are akin to wartime treachery."
Gen. (res.) Amram Mitzna, a Labor MK, took a lukewarm approach, saying that the letter has an "aroma of rebellion," but blamed Prime Minister Sharon's policies and said that the letter was "political/ethical." Meretz MK Zahava Gal'on, on the other hand, justified the pilots' action and said that Israel's "occupation of the territories" is at fault.
All accounts of this have lead me to believe this was an accident..that doesnt make it so tho. I cannot think of a single reason for Israel to attack a US war ship. Perhaps will will never really know but the conspiracy goons will have a field day as always with this story. RIP the 34.
My mistake, Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Yiftach Spector was promoted to head of IAF Operations.
That's what I wondered. Why no American flag on the ship?
That must mean that this forum is a Joooo-hating Loserdopian forum. < /VaBthang>
Right, Spector sounds defensive and hostile. Hmm, he didn't suffer any suspension of rank or privileges after the incident? Hmmm.
I agree. Friendly fire incident happen in the fog of war. They've happened before and as we saw with Pat Tillman recently they go right on happening. Nothing is to be gained by raking this matter over the coals again and again. We have bigger fish to fry in the Middle East.
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- Leanne said...
oh come on! don't give up on the blog now...unless there is another way for me to keep up with your growing baby boy and all that is happening there...
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It would be nice for you to keep the blog thing, too, for folks like Grandma Driggs, who can navigate to the blog easily. Just a thought. Thanks for posting, TA.
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Love your blog, I hope you decide to keep it!
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PLEASE don't stop blogging. We need a Gavin fix once in a while! You might check into blurb.com or snapfish... they both have programs to make your own albums. Serra and Darci have used blurb and the books are BEAUTIFUL! jan
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GPS 15 H/L software version 4.40
as of April 21, 2009
View installation instructions and system requirements
If upgrading software to version 4.00 (or above) from a version prior to 4.00, you will need to reconfigure the sensor because all user configuration information will be erased during the upgrade process.
A unit with version 4.00 (or later) should NOT be downgraded to any software version prior to 4.00
Change History
Changes made from version 4.30 to 4.40:
Fixed problem that could cause NMEA output to occasionally transmit at the wrong interval in certain situations where the output time is set to a large value.
Reduce CPU loading in difficult signal environments.
Changes made from version 4.20 to 4.30:
Fixed problem that caused certain NMEA fields not be populated if the sensor had a 2D fix rather than a 3D fix.
Changes made from version 4.10 to 4.20:
Improved robustness of internal error handling.
Changes made from version 4.00 to 4.10:
Improved the fix-reporting logic to better reflect the status of the unit.
Changes made from version 3.30 to 4.00:
Use new non-volatile memory manager software to improve reliability.
Changes made from version 3.20 to 3.30:
Improved the WAAS selection algorithm.
Fixed a problem with 3D-only mode that caused a '3D-differential' fix to be downgraded to 'no fix' instead of '3D'.
Changes made from version 3.10 to 3.20:
Fixed a problem that would cause the system to crash when you sent a reset command to the unit after turning the PPS setting on.
Changes made from version 3.00 to 3.10:
Fixed problem that caused the horizontal velocities in the PGRMV sentence to be missing unless the sensor had a 3D fix.
Fixed problem that caused the status indicator in the GPRMC sentence to show 'navigation warning' unless the sensor had a 3D fix.
Changes made from version 2.90 to 3.00:
Changes made to support manufacturing.
Fixed SBAS compatibility issue with Japanese MSAS system.
Drop WAAS satellites that are not transmitting useful data.
Changes made from version 2.80 to 2.90:
Improved compliance with NMEA version 2.30 Standard.
Changes made from version 2.70 to 2.80:
Improved robustness of non-volatile memory handling.
Changes made from version 2.60 to 2.70:
Changes made to support manufacturing.
Changes made from version 2.50 to 2.60:
Improvements made to ensure that the unit correctly reports the validity of the vertical speed and altitude when a 3D fix is not available.
Increased the responsiveness of the reported fix type when the dead reckoning time is set to a short amount of time.
Changed software version to 2.60.
Changes made from version 2.40 to 2.50:
Improvements were made for internal purposes.
Changes made from version 2.30 to 2.40:
Added ability to turn position averaging on and off via a Garmin or NMEA command.
Enhanced first-fix processing.
Changed software version to 2.40.
Changes made from version 2.20 to 2.30:
Allowed vertical filter to be disabled via the PGRMC sentence.
Added altitude-validity checking to first-fix processing.
Improved EPH during non-differential fix to differential fix transitions.
Changes made from version 2.10 to 2.20:
Improved non-volatile memory storage of WAAS/EGNOS ionospheric mask corrections.
Changes made from version 2.02 to 2.10:
Improved WAAS/EGNOS satellite selection algorithm to select the satellite with the most beneficial corrections given the unit's current position. Units will not use a WAAS/EGNOS satellite if the unit's current position is outside of a given WAAS/EGNOS satellite's service volume.
Changes made from version 2.01 to 2.02:
Added automatic position averaging when stopped.
Removed position pinning. Position pinning remains off regardless of the PGRMC1 sentence command.
Fixed problem with saving unit position in nonvolatile memory upon first fix.
Changes made from version 2.00 to 2.01:
Added support for ephemeris download.
Improve eph estimate for WAAS DGPS fixes.
Installation Instructions
It is recommended that you disable screen savers or other programs running on your PC while you go through the update process. Disruptions to the update process may render your GPS inoperable. If the transfer is interrupted, turn off the GPS and then turn it back on. Reboot your PC, go to step #9 and attempt the download again. GARMIN is not responsible for failed downloads of operating software to the GPS and factory resetting the GPS unit will fall under our Flat Rate Repair Policy.
Click on "Download" and choose to save the file to your computer.
Choose a location where you can easily locate the file by saving it to a location such as the "My Documents" folder or to "C:\".
Once the download is complete, go to the location where you saved the file.
Locate the downloaded file and double-click on it. This will launch the Win-Zip Self Extractor. This program compresses the data to allow for a faster download of the needed files.
A program window will appear asking you where to "Un-zip" the files. This is by default C:\Garmin. You can change this location if you like. Be sure to note where the un-zipped files are going to allow you to find them!
Click on the button labeled "Un-zip".
Once the un-zip process is complete, click on the "Close" button to exit the Win-Zip Self Extractor.
Click on the "OK" button on the Updater program window to start the data transfer.
Connect your unit to a free serial port (Com 1, 2, 3, or 4) on your PC. The user will need to build an appropriate cable to accomplish this.
Power up the unit.
Option 1: a) Navigate your browser to the C:\Garmin folder and run the SNSRCFG program by clicking on the SNSRCFG.exe file. Make sure 'GPS15 H/L' base model has been selected and click 'OK'. b) Either select Config-Update Software from the menu bar or press F12 to update the software. Normally, you will see a confirmation window indicating that you have connected to the unit. If the connection confirmation window does not appear, there are two possibilities: i) The GPS15 is not properly connected to your computer. Click 'Cancel'. The update program will not find the GPS15 and will fail. Verify the serial connections, cycle power on the unit, and try again. ii) The unit may be in Garmin (update) mode. In this case, click 'Cancel' to continue with the update. c) A browser window will open and default to the folder C:\Garmin. You may now browse for the correct region file to upload. The correct region file will be named 021700000xxx.rgn, where XXX is the version number of the software you wish to upload. Select region file and click 'Open'. d) A browser window will open and prompt for an update program. Select the Garmin software update program, updater.exe. Updater will start and prompt you to select the appropriate serial port. Click 'OK' to begin the software upload.
Option 2: a) Run SNSRCFG by clicking on the SNSRCFG.exe file. Make sure 'GPS15 H/L' base model has been selected and click 'OK'. b) Either select Config-Switch to Garmin mode from the menu bar or press F11 to switch your unit to Garmin (update) mode. If the unit is in NMEA mode you will see a confirmation window saying 'Connection Success'. If the connection confirmation window does not appear, there are two possibilities: i) The GPS15 is not properly connected to your computer. Verify the serial connections, cycle power on the unit, and try again. ii) The unit may already be in Garmin (update) mode. Proceed to step c. c) Change to the directory in which you unzipped the files, (i.e., C:\GARMIN), and run the update program, updater.exe. Select the appropriate serial port and click 'OK' to begin the software upload.
During the upload, the display will indicate 'Software Loading....'. The upload process should take 1-3 minutes to complete. When the upload is completed, the unit will reset itself and turn on normally. At this point, click the connect button (or select Comm-Connect from the Menu bar). If you select view-NMEA Transmitted Sentences the NMEA sentences should be updating on the screen.
NOTE: If, for any reason, updater does not completely execute and terminate normally, the GPS15 system software may be corrupt and the unit will remain in Garmin mode. If this is the case try the following: 1. Try to switch the unit back to NMEA mode (press F10 or select Config-Switch to NMEA Mode). 2. Check to see if the unit is transmitting NMEA sentences. If the unit is transmitting sentences, verify the software version number via the PGRMT sentence. If the GPS15 is not transmitting sentences or the version number is not correct, you must reload the software starting with step 12 above.
System requirements
IBM-compatible PC running Windows 2000 or later operating system and an available Com 1, 2, 3, or 4 port.
PC Interface Cable for suitable for your OEM unit. The user will need to fabricate one according to the data provided in the Technical Specifications.


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Having lived in the historic Brentwood neighborhood for a decade and well aware of its unique quality, the owners had planned to expand their 1950's house. Demolishing the unremarkable structure and building from ground up ultimately turned out to be the better solution.Inspired by strict regulations demanding a mid-century ideal of humane modernism and appreciative of its values, the design is a contemporary interpretation and celebration of its inherent qualities, with an added strong focus on sustainability.
A steep down-slope site above a wooded canyon required a low profile from the street and the careful positioning of the volumes to preserve views, while making the comparably large home appear modestly scaled in keeping with the neighborhood.
The massing concept consists of a simple large open glass volume for the shared living spaces, wrapped around three-dimensionally by a solid band of smaller rooms that also maintain the owner's privacy from the street. Closely integrated into the historic surroundings, the house features a typical transparent clerestory above the opaque walls and a floating flat roof with exposed steel beams.
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Given the historical success of undrafted quarterbacks in the NFL, Tony Romo might as well be a national treasure. We look at the impact of developmental leagues on undrafted quarterbacks, and just how many players have tried to break through in a recent season.
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Tampa Bay quarterback Mike Glennon is having an excellent rookie season. He's thrown 13 touchdowns against only four interceptions and ranks a middle-of-the-pack 18th in DYAR and DVOA. He's one of the big reasons the Bucs are no longer known solely as a giant hot zone of MRSA.
But the Bucs quarterback does need to work on something -- when he gets in trouble in the pocket, it's better to step up then to try to backpedal away from danger.
Glennon has generally tried to run away from danger. It hasn't helped his sack rate (he has 21 sacks in 290 dropbacks) and it's led to an NFL-leading 11 sacks of 10 or more yards lost. He's also had a pair of intentional grounding penalties of 10 or more yards. When you consider that Glennon has started only eight games this year, it's a pretty strong sign that Glennon has some work to do.
Five of those 11 sacks have come on third down, which costs the Buccaneers a little field position, but little else. But four have come on first down and another two on second down. Those six sacks have killed those six drives -- the Bucs have five punts and a missed field goal after the long-yardage sacks.
The rest of the top 10 in double-digit yardage sacks features a number of names you might expect -- mostly they are mobile quarterbacks who have the speed to try to extend plays by running away from trouble. Sometimes it works, and sometimes they end up with a very lengthy loss on a sack.
But there is one other name that stands out because of the sheer number of long-yardage sacks: Fill-in Texans starter Case Keenum. Keenum fits the mold of a mobile quarterback, but he might need to do a little less backpedaling to evade the rush. Keenum has been sacked 13 times since he took over as the team's quarterback. Seven of those sacks have been 10 yards or longer. Like Glennon, Keenum has a predilection to backpedal or even turn his back to the line to try to avoid the rush. In Keenum's defense, six of his seven long-yardage sacks have come on third down, so while they cost Houston field position, they don't kill drives. Those drives are dead already.
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M.Glennon | TB | 11 | J.Flacco | BAL | 5 | P.Manning | DEN | 3 |
R.Griffin | WAS | 10 | B.Roethlisberger | PIT | 5 | M.Schaub | HOU | 3 |
C.Newton | CAR | 9 | E.Manning | NYG | 4 | D.Brees | NO | 3 |
G.Smith | NYJ | 9 | J.Freeman | MIN | 4 | M.Stafford | DET | 3 |
C.Keenum | HOU | 7 | B.Weeden | CLE | 4 | B.Gabbert | JAC | 2 |
T.Romo | DAL | 7 | R.Wilson | SEA | 4 | A.Rodgers | GB | 2 |
R.Tannehill | MIA | 6 | M.Vick | PHI | 4 | T.Brady | NE | 2 |
M.Ryan | ATL | 6 | J.Locker | TEN | 3 | P.Rivers | SD | 2 |
T.Pryor | OAK | 6 | A.Smith | KC | 3 | C.Palmer | ARI | 2 |
A.Luck | IND | 5 | J.Campbell | CLE | 3 |
Sometimes as an offensive lineman, you're just screwed.
Titans center Brian Schwenke apparently did everything right on a first-quarter pass play against the Raiders, and he still gave up a sack.
The Raiders lined up in a four-man front in a 4-2-5 look. Right before the snap, linebacker Nick Roach switched over from Schwenke's left to stand in the A-gap to Schenke's right. He became Schwenke's obvious immediate target to block at the snap. The Titans play call had the lone running back going out into the pass pattern, meaning that if Roach was coming, it would be five linemen to block five rushers.
Roach wasn't faking. As soon as the ball was snapped, he fired upfield, aiming for the gap between Schwenke and right guard Chance Warmack. Schwenke picked him up as he was supposed to, while Warmack began blocking defensive tackle Brian Sanford who was attacking the B-gap off his right shoulder.
So far so good. But linebacker Kevin Burnett was also blitzing following right behind Roach and Sanford. Six rushers, five blockers. Burnett did a good job of being patient, waiting for a gap to open up. That happened pretty quickly as Roach knew that his job was to aggressively attack the Titans' right A-gap, opening a massive hole to Schwenke's left.
To Schwenke's credit, he realized what was happening, then tried to hand Roach off to Warmack and shifted back to his left to try to pick up Burnett as well. It's just an impossible block to make. Unless the NFL legalizes clothesline arm bars again, anyway.
Schwenke came close to doing just that, as he punched Burnett in the chin with his left hand. That was enough to annoy Burnett, but not enough to slow him down. He collaborated with Roach, freed up when Schwenke shifted to try to block Burnett, for an easy sack.
Schwenke diagnosed what was happening perfectly, but he was facing a problem with no simple solution. Life as a lineman is hard.
Patriots center Ryan Wendell can agree with Schwenke that sometimes linemen are asked to do the impossible.
In last Sunday night's game, Wendell was asked to block Broncos defensive tackle Kevin Vickerson, who was lined up on right guard Dan Connolly's outside shoulder. He was asked to pull off this block because Connolly was pulling to try to help pick up any rusher coming off the Patriots' left edge.
It was impossible for Wendell to pull this block off as Vickerson fired directly upfield at the snap. Wendell had to wait until Connolly had cleared the area to ensure they didn't trip over each other's feet. By then, Vickerson was halfway to Tom Brady, wrapping him up for a 1.7-second sack.
Hail Mary passes are an understandable source of long sacks. It's the end of the game or the half, and the quarterback has to give his receivers time to get downfield. Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill ran into exactly that problem on the final play of the team's loss to the Panthers last week.
Tannehill couldn't find a clean pocket to step into to throw, so he ran around to try to buy time. The problem never cleared up, and eventually the Panthers sacked Tannehill, but only after he had run around for 9.2 seconds.
5 comments, Last at 04 Dec 2013, 6:45pm by tuluse
The more stats I see the more I appreciate how truly great Drew Brees is. Discrimination based on race has thankfully left the evaluation of quarterbacks by management, but I believe description against those of "normal" height persists.
When Drew Brees enters the HOF, will he be its shortest quarterback?
Discrimination against short QBs will persist because it's better to be taller, unlike skin color which is irrelevant.
Apparently not. Sonny Jurgensen is 5'11", and Len Dawson and Fran Tarkenton are both 6'.
With 6 blitzers and 5 blockers, isn't it up to Fitzpatrick to go to a hot route there?


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