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6th November 2010, 11:55 PM | #1 |
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bronze age goat herder
I have used the phrase "The Bible was written by a bunch of bronze age goat herders" before, and I can't remember exactly where I got it from. I think maybe Hitchens.
Where did the term originate? I have been called out on it by Christians before and I don't think there is any truth to it, but it is merely used as an insult. Can anyone comment? |
7th November 2010, 12:00 AM | #2 |
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As nobody knows who wrote the OT it's just a cheap shot/educated guess. Take your pick.
7th November 2010, 12:16 AM | #3 |
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Dawkins used it in "The Greatest Show on Earth", I believe.
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7th November 2010, 12:27 AM | #4 |
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Why did you use it if you didn't believe it?
It's just a description. It doesn't need to have a particular point of origin. If you want to convey certain ideas/meanings, then the words for them are what you'll end up using. If I asked you to describe my car, your description would have a lot in common with anybody else's description of the same car. |
7th November 2010, 12:29 AM | #5 |
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7th November 2010, 12:38 AM | #6 |
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Well if it is essentially childish name-calling then obviously I would want to refrain from doing it.
But if there is truth to it then it can be used to further ridicule the theists belief in a book written by a bunch of bronze age goat herders. |
7th November 2010, 12:42 AM | #7 |
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Well it is a question of when as well as who....
i think bronze age is too early, the bible was written in the... what, iron age? would goat herders know how to read and write? also... probably not So basically you guys are saying we should all refrain from using it, because it is an insult with no evidence behind it? |
7th November 2010, 01:28 AM | #9 |
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Well, whoever said it doesn't know that the Bronze age lasted until ~1000 B.C. (B.C.E. if you perfer), and that most of the texts we now know as the Bible were assembled in the council of Nicea, 325 A.D, and were based on texts written in the 1st century A.D.
Comments about literacy of goat herders are just as valid. Not many goat herders, or commoners in general, knew how to read and write until the 18th century (A.D.). The texts were mostly written by priests and other educated individuals. But it's not completely impossible that a goat herder made a contribution somewhere, it's a long text after all It's an insult and an ad hominem, nothing more. There are plenty of good reasons to criticize any religion and there is absolutely no reason to make up such cheap shots that only serve as insults. McHrozni |
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OK, thank you, that is all I wanted to know.
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And I'll take an insanely wild guess and say the term "goat herders" was used due to the fact that most of the earilier portions of the bible make note of how many goats people actually had at the time.
7th November 2010, 03:15 AM | #13 |
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It's fairly obvious that some parts of the bible mythology originated in a culture which did not have iron, but was in contact (and conflict) with cultures which did. Which is why YHWH can't defeat iron chariots.
AS to the issue of writing, are we talking about when these stories originated, or when they where first written down? |
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"The Bible was written by a bunch of bronze age goat herders" is just insulting and show lack of bible knowledge.
The truth to that sentence, is that it probably started with a bunch of bronze age goat herders(bedouins), who probably were prosperous gold traders, too. They didn't write it, but had oral traditions. Around 1200-1000 BCE it looks like they settled and became farmers in Caanan. After a while, the less than 1 percent that knew how to write and read, started to write some of the oral traditions and laws used in court that time. Around 500 to 300 BCE, the authors collected what was written earlier in Judea, Israel, and surrounding cultures, and added some newer stuff, and it became a cultural masterpice, known as OT among christians today. So it was probably written by an very rich elite(compared to the major population) in a time when goats still was very important. |
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The Bible is your source buddy:
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron. Judges 1:19 Here's an atheist website that talks about it some more: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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Three points (it's breakfast time).
1. Goat herding was an important part of the cultures that created the writings that became the bible. Hence the sheep/goat people references. 2. Much of what's now in the bible was taken from older sources from other cultures the proto-Hebrews were in contact with. So even if parts of the bible date to a particular time, the stories that comprise it are probably older. 3. The history of metal working is complicated. Typically the Bronze age is takes as beginning ~3,500 BCE and the Iron age from ~1,200 BCE. However this isn't an even transition as metalworking emerged at different times in different places. The Chinese had cast iron well before Europe (possible 1000CE). Sub-Saharan Africa never had a bronze age as such, going straight to iron. The Mayans didn't have much in the way of metalworking either. The first tool metal was copper in use by 5000 BCE in the Near East. It makes tolerably good tools on its own but alloying improves its workability and hardness. Several important copper alloys, comparable to iron in hardness, started to appear around 3500 BCE in Egypt, the Near East0 , and north-central China. The first and most common was Arsenic Bronze which alloyed copper with ~2% arsenic; this probably was discovered by chance when arsenical copper ores were smelted. Of course arsenic is toxic and causes both short term and long term deleterious effects. Next came Tin Bronze, what most people1 call bronze, also around 3500 BCE. This requires adding 5-15% tin to copper and is easier to cast and non-toxic. However tin is damned rare and in great demand well into the modern era 2. Lastly came brass, copper alloyed with 5-15% zinc. This is a little tricky to produce with primitive resources as smelting zinc oxide ore allows metallic zinc to evaporate. All these new materials revolutionised civilisation, in fact they allowed civilisation as we'd recognise the concept to happen. However copper is far more scarce than iron. However iron needs temperatures of ~1,200°C to smelt; iron melts at ~1,550°C but that's not really possible to achieve until the late middle ages. Hence iron couldn't be produced as a convenient liquid metal. It should be remembered that iron was considered inferior to bronze as a working metal; it corroded easily, took an inferior edge, was softer than bronze (at least wrought iron was) and was far more difficult to work. Iron, from meteoric sources has been used from ~4000 BCE (high Nickel content) but iron working emerged around 1500 BCE in the Near East with wrought iron being hammered while softened. Steel was made, in very small quantities, using charcoal fires possible with bellows for additional air flow. Eventually two main methods of making solid steel were developed. The easier method (used extensively in Asian but basically unknown in Europe) combined finely crushed iron ore and charcoal powder in a small (usually clay) vessel. In this the carbon completely infiltrated the iron, lowering its melting point to an achievable level (about 1,150°C). The metal produced needed to be hammered into shape but this method produced small quantities of high-quality steel. The other method is the classic blast furnace; lots of air forced through charcoal fuel in a ceramic furnace. This requires more investment and fuel 3but produces more iron (technically cast iron, containing ~5% carbon). However, as an example of the limited production of iron, the entire Roman Empire of the 1st century CE probably produced no more than 20,000 tons of iron a year. Bronze was a more common metal. 0 Yes I'm still using that term. Live with it. I mean it in the archaeological sense of Anatolia, what's now the Middle East and Mesopotamia, i.e. the "bible lands". 1 Who haven't sat through metallurgy or materials science lectures. 2 I will again refrain from linking to "The Tin Mines of Cornwall" but the tin deposits there were an important economic factor for centuries. The tin trade was an interesting factor in Mediterranean politics and economics, with the metal being imported from Hungary and Asia as well as Cornwall. In fact one factor in the emergence of iron was the disruption of the tin trade around 1200 BCE caused by the Sea Peoples. 3 To produce X iron required 8X iron ore and about 40X charcoal in a good design. This massive requirement for fuel had its own implications. |
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The books were written in the Iron Age, but fairly early in it, and the tales had come from Bronze Age oral tradition. So although it's not entirely accurate to say they were "tales written by Bronze Age people", they were indeed "Bronze Age tales" or "tales from Bronze Age people". (The stories themselves sometimes reveal this, independent of archeological evidence; for example, Goliath is described as wearing bronze armor.)
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I started using "The Bronze Age Goat-herders' Anthology of Campfire Tales for Boys" at RDF back in 2008. It got me post-banned at abovetopsecret last year.
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Parts of the OT definitely date to the Bronze Age. The Flood myth was pulled nearly entirely from the Epic of Gilgemesh which dates at least to the 2100ish BCE. I'm not expert enough to know when some of the other books were written but I think it's safe to say the oldest of the books of the OT were in the Bronze Age. The Sumerians had specialization of labor so I'd say it's not likely the writers were goat herders.
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Personally I use the term "goat-shaggers" rather than "-herders".
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17 Then Joshua said to the house of Joseph, to Ephraim and Manasseh, "You are a numerous people and have great power. You shall not have one allotment only, 18 but the hill country shall be yours, for though it is a forest, you shall clear it and possess it to its farthest borders. For you shall drive out the Canaanites, though they have chariots of iron, and though they are strong." 1 Then the whole congregation of the people of Israel assembled at Shiloh and set up the tent of meeting there. The land lay subdued before them. Looks like you are going in the same trap as some of the fundies around here when they choose the verses that fit their faith..? |
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I think you missed the point there, the passage is evidence that the Biblical authors were living in the bronze age, not that they couldn't overcome iron chariots, besides, youre guilty yourself of what you are accusing others
the passage carries on
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But the Old Testament dates back to an estimated 1300 BCE, which was the Bronze age, and furthermore shows many signs of being a compilation of a set of oral traditions.
So it's not at all unreasonable to believe that most of the Bible was composed by a Bronze Age goat herder, even if the first scribe who wrote the text down was a later and better-educated man. |
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OK so I quote Judges and you quote Joshua. Then you say I am cherry picking verses? Haha blatant hypocrite man, how the hell can you double-think your way past that? Fact of the matter is, we have a contradiction, one of MANY. That's because the Bible was written by multiple people with their own views, not by an omniscient creator. Game. Set. Match.
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Well, it all depends of what part of the OT once is looking at but, as far as I know, the oldest books (books of Amos and Nahum) seem to have been written around the 8th century and a lot where actually writen later, in the 6th and 5th century) so, pretty much in the Iron age...
In some case, for example in the book of Genesis, the Hebrews seem to have incorporated earlier traditions, which went all the way back to the Bronze age, but that's limited... At least, it is my understanding... |
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I don't think it's totally out of the question to suggest that some of the oral tradition, the myths and superstitions of bronze age goat herders did indeed find inclusion in the document called the bible.
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myths and superstitions are not an oral tradition, an oral tradition is where a story is recounted over and over in the same format to preserve the detail of a past event
Its usually used as evidence that the bible is innerrant, in a manner of saying, God said this and we preserved it faithfully til we could write it down, this is hardly neccessary as writing was invented and in use for two thousand years before the Hebrews existed. That there was also a library containing all these stories which was staffed by Rabbis is also something frequently overlooked by people who want to believe the bible is the definitive word of God and not as has been proven consistently an early form of plagiarism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Ashurbanipal |
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Surely it's evidence that they were living in the Iron Age, even if they didn't have the technology themselves? If the people you're dealing with have iron, and are using it against you, and you know what it is, I think it's hard to argue that you're not in the Iron age, even if you are not benefitting from it yourself.
Depending on the accuracy of the estimate, isn't it pretty much on the cusp of the end of the Bronze age and the start of the Iron age, in that region?
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Yes I guess you could say certain cultures were in certain ages at different times.
It is not as if one person started using Iron, and - whula - the Iron Age begun worldwide. It was culturally bound. Now the Palenstines were far behind the Chinese, or so Hitchens says, when he is ridiculing God's sending Jesus to Nazareth instead of China, where they already had telescopes and could read and write. |
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The passage from Judges 1:19 neither prove that YHWH couldn't defeat iron chariots or that they lived in the bronze age. All it is evidence of is that Judah and the LORD failed to drive out some inhabitants of a specific valley because they happened to have chariots of iron there.
brodski wrote in post #13 "Which is why YHWH can't defeat iron chariots.", so it's not only about evidence that they lived in the bronze age. Adding more verses will only show hard it's to use the bible to make this kind of claims, both for and against, and that was my point as well. |
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[quote=OhMan;6525742]Yes I guess you could say certain cultures were in certain ages at different times.
Not to mention that bronze remained the more useful metal even during the nominal "iron age" had begun. Absolutely. This is especially true gven that there's excellent evidence that iron was first worked ~4000 BCE before bronze.......... Well paper use in China dates to before 100BCE (900+ years before the Near East and 1200 years befoe Europe) and they'd used bamboo strips before that. |
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I am not sure what is supposed to be insulting about it.
Is there something about keeping goats or living a long time ago that is supposed to be disreputable? |
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People who come to the Cinque Terre are amazed by the scenery, the trails, its beaches, and mostly of all, the GREAT FOOD!
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Since you'll be in an area that attracts many tourists, you've to pay attention where to eat in Cinque Terre.
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Most of the restaurants here in Cinque Terre are family run and we feel to award the more honest ones, the owners whose philosophy is to direct but also to work all day long in their restaurants and to serve their customers as if they were guest at their houses.
Maybe you won't find excellence in gourmet research and experimentation, no michelin stars here (well, actually, we have a couple), but the tastes you will have the luck of finding here are authentic and original, coming from long family traditions.
And do not forget to end you meal with a Limoncino (lemon liquor not to be confused with limoncello from south of Italy regions). Otherwise you Cinque Terre meal experience will not be complete!
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La Taverna del Capitano in Vernazza
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That app is owned by Slide, which is now owned by Google. So we've come round full circle.
More seriously, building apps on top of Google+ is a way to feed more notifications into the service. Google+'s secret weapon is the fact that notifications appear as a red button in a bar at the top of the screen on every single Google site. That's how Google hopes to get people to see, and sign up for, and use Google+. And more apps means more notifications which means more reasons to use Google+. At least in theory.
The only problem with that is that it would make Google+ even more indistinguishable from Facebook. There's something not-quite-right about building a social service because people supposedly dislike Facebook and then copying it to a t. Especially since last we checked, the most annoying thing about Facebook, according to the half of Facebook users who don't play social games, is all those FarmVille notifications from the other half.
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Masterfully directed by Fritz Lang, Scarlet Street is a bleak film in which an ordinary man succumbs first to vice and then to murder. Christopher Cross (Edward G. Robinson) is a lonely man married to a nagging wife. Painting is the only thing that brings him joy. Cross meets Kitty (Joan Bennett) who, believing him...more
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So, do you have a poet or songwriter trapped inside your nonprofit? It's time to unleash your muses for a good cause!
Here is a great grant opportunity that has just opened up through the CTK Foundation Fund. Nonprofits of all types and sizes in the US, UK and Canada are invited to apply for the following grant opportunities:
- 1st place award is a cash grant of $10,000 (US)
- 2nd place award is a cash grant of $5,000 (US)
- The 2011 Blogger's Choice Award, whereby a randomly selected blogger (hopefully me) participating in spreading the word among nonprofits about the H&SGrant Award Program will choose an applicant of his or her choice to receive a $1,000 cash grant
- 2 steel-stringed guitars, signed by all members of Los Lonely Boys, the Grammy Award winning, internationally-acclaimed band, for auction and fund raising
- Up to 20 technology grants, valued at $10,000, to nonprofits that indicate an interest
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In order to win, you have to channel all your creativity to write an original four-to-eight-line poem that reflects the work and/or mission of your nonprofit organization. This poem may be written by staff members, clients and/or volunteers of the submitting nonprofit, and must be wholly original.
There is a quick turnaround on these grants—you must submit by midnight on March 28, 2011, and will be notified if you have won on April 10, 2011.
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The 1st place award winner will also receive a professionally-produced song to be used in public education or awareness, based upon the selected nonprofit applicant lyrics. This year, the song will be written and recorded by Bill Dillon and produced by Jim Tullio of Butcher Boy Studios of Chicago, Illinois.
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We submitted our Song for Bay Area-Houston Habitat for Humanity!! Thanks for the heads up! *Fingers crossed*


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Thursday, March 29, 2012
Weekly Water Marble 3/29/12
My pal Laurie showed me this rainbow water marble last week and I just had to try it.. By the way, check out Laurie's awesome butterfly marble! It's so pretty!!
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For this marble, I started with two coats of OPI Alpine Snow on each finger. After that dried I sponged on Spoiled Hit The Brakes, OPI A Roll in the Hague, OPI Need Sunglasses?, OPI Don't Mess With OPI, OPI Fly, and OPI Funky Dunkey to make the rainbow pattern. After that completely dried, I marbled with China Glaze Liquid Leather and OPI Pearl of Wisdom. :)
I'll be back next Thursday with an Easter-inspired marble... I think :)
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Trade and Environment: An Empirical Analysis of the Technology Effect in the Steel Industry
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... racket when the hundreds of them travel in packs at Carnival. Kurentovanje is considered one of the world's most unique Carnival celebrations and one I'd like to take in sometime if I'm in Europe around that time of year, perhaps before or after that European ski trip I've had on my mind for many years. So maybe I'll be back in Ptuj someday!
After spending the night in a private room in a very nice a so-called hostel on the outskirts of time ...
Cycling the Styrian countryside
We jumped on the bikes around 11am and followed the Weistraßeweg (wine bike trail) from Kitzeck through and around the vineyards. We stopped in a little town called Gamlitz for lunch. We had a roll and tasted their local specialty pastry (see photo). We kept going, not realising for 15km that we had gone the wrong way and were now back on the same loop! ...
Lake Bled - Beautiful, Serene and Fantastic!
... As we returned to the campground, we passed a strange set of what could only be described a "spectator stands" on the side of the lake. After hanging out for a few minutes, we realized that these were, in fact, "stands" for rowing races. Turns out the lake is the base for the Slovenian national rowing team (winners at the last three Olympics) and a popular place for international ...
Day 10 Lake Bled
... and sunny, it was a bit of a trek, but well worth the effort.
After I got back to Bled, I went for a walk around the lake in the gathering dusk. It was another pretty walk, with changing views of the island and castle.
That night, in our rather lovely hotel, Kayla and I slept with the window open to let in the fresh, peaceful country air - no noisy traffic here!
Serene Lake Bled, Zagreb & stunning Plitvice L
... an item in the house every day since the break up. However, some stories were really sad. There was one about a woman who had watched her husband be murdered, got depression but came through it by writing a book and the saddest, for me, was one that said I only realised how much you loved me and why you wouldn't sleep with me when you died a few years later from HIV. A fascinating museum that we thoroughly enjoyed. Zagreb is quaint and has a unique charm for ...
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Huffington Post's Gay Voices recently printed a column by Gay Men's Health Crisis COO Janet Weinberg about the impacts of cuts in Washington, D.C. on people with HIV/AIDS. The budget stalemate is literally killing people. She writes:
I am outraged.We all knew sequestration was coming, but most people really did not know what those words meant.
For GMHC's clients it means cuts to the food that they need in order to take their medicine. It means less support for mental health and substance abuse to deal with the very issues that were part of that reason that they are living with HIV and AIDS. It means cuts to the staff who are here to assist clients to secure benefits so that they can take their medicine, go to doctors and potentially not infect others because their medicine is working so well.
These cuts were already severe enough during recent years as HIV funding has dwindled. Many do not understand why we actually need more funding to accomplish the president's goal of an AIDS-free next generation. But alas, just when we thought we'd seen the last of this year's cuts, we got hit even harder.
Two weeks ago, every organization in New York that has Ryan White funding (which was specifically set up to take care of people with HIV) was hit with a cut of about 15 percent. Why it was cut is the most unbelievable part of this story. The Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), which is the primary federal agency for improving access to health care services for people who are uninsured, isolated, or medically vulnerable, made a formulaic error in New York's funding during 2010, 2011 and 2012. In dealing with their own error, HRSA decided to take back $18 million in funding to AIDS service organizations in New York. All I know is that when I make a math error, I usually am stuck dealing with the consequences.
Who is paying for the consequences here?
That would be our clients. Ironically, Ryan White funding is the funder of last resort. This means that the person who is eligible to receive services provided by Ryan White funding are not eligible for public or private insurance. To quote Felix Lopez, GMHC's Legal Services Director, "If Ryan White were alive today, he would not be entitled to services under Ryan White funding." The clients we see under Ryan White are often living on $12 per day after rent and utilities are paid for. It is these very clients who are hurt the most by this terrible decision. What does 15 percent in cuts mean to GMHC, and of course our clients, you might ask? Well, it means a lot. Here is what this latest onslaught has done:
-We had to lay off three very valuable staff members.
-Meals and nutrition: We have a reduction in the amount of food per grocery bag in our food pantry program. We have to limit clients to one serving of the meals we serve Monday through Friday. For some of our clients, this is their only hot meal each day.
-There is now a decrease in nutrition counseling.
-Legal: There will be a decrease in help with evictions, immigration and more.
-Women's services: There will be a decrease in intake and a decrease in HIV testing.
-Mental health services: All our services to individuals and groups will decrease.
These cuts are profound. Did our legislators fall asleep at the wheel? How could they allow HRSA to collect on their math error during a year of already deep cuts? I am baffled.
Where were HRSA, our senators and Congresspeople when I had to stand before some of the most amazing and resilient people to tell them about why we had to cut their services, how services were cut, and what they could no longer count on? I also had to explain that every AIDS service organization is suffering with these cuts. Our clients wanted to know what they should do about this. How can they help GMHC stop the cuts? These very same clients saw that I was close to tears when I had to tell them that we had less food to offer.
When I walked out of the room, several clients followed me. They stopped me to ask, "How can we support you?" The generosity, kindness and love our clients have never fail to amaze me. How lucky I am to work with GMHC's clients who are worried about me when each one of them just received another undeserved harsh blow!
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I will be goin' to south Austin in a few days to attend a free advanced screenin' of Away We Go, so that'll be added to the list soon.
Apparently this is one of those 'love it' or 'hate it' films. Can't wait to see what you think about it.
Me too. That's definitely the kind of movie that requires personnel recommendation to get me interested.
Add another to my list: Zardoz (1974) - I enjoyed it very much and found it to be greatly underrated. Its plot and themes are actually quite straightforward despite the surface weirdness.
In Theaters: Star Trek Angels & Demons On DVD: Hancock Wanted Eagle Eye Jumper Zach & Miri Make a Porno Twilight Let the Right One In The Day the Earth Stood Still Seven Pounds Deja Vu Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist
To be honest I couldn't even tell you if I liked it or not. However, the premise was so "out there" and dare I say, unique, that it had no trouble holding my attention for two hours.
Angels & Demons The Day the Earth Stood Still Gran Torino Higurashi no Naku Koroni (When the Cicadas Cry) Kara no Kyoukai: Mujun Rasen (Garden of Sinners: Paradox Spiral) Naruto Shippuden Movie 2: Bonds Night at the Museum The Punisher: War Zone The Seven Swordsmen The Sky Crawlers Star Trek Sword of the Stranger Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann: Gurren-hen (Pierce the Heavens Gurren Lagann: Gurren Chapter) Terminator: Salvation Twilight Watchmen X-Men Origins: Wolverine
In the theater: UNDERWORLD: RISE OF THE LYCANS WATCHMEN MONSTERS VS. ALIENS STAR TREK TERMINATOR SALVATION On DVD, my favorite discovery this year is SPIDER BABY, this bizarre black comedy from the 1960s. It's like the Addams Family, if the Addams Family actually killed and ate their visitors! It really has to be seen to be believed. I'm looking forward to renting FROST/NIXON and LET THE RIGHT ONE IN as soon as I can take some time off from the book I'm working on right now.
In-Theater or First Time: Star Trek Cloverfield House The Uninvited Angels & Demons Twilight Phantom of the Opera Drag Me To Hell Harry Potter 3 Harry Potter 4 Harry Potter 5 Rewatches: Star Trek II Star Trek III Star Trek IV Star Trek VIII The Dark Knight Deep Impact Blood and Chocolate Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist The Matrix Star Wars V Star Wars VI Spider-man Spider-man 2 Spider-man 3
Let The Right One In (Låt Den Rätte Komma In) was recommended quite heavily (once again, my beloved BuffyForums). It's a really interesting film and I am VERY picky about foreign cinema. It's definitely one of the more memorable new films I've seen in recent years actually. It's haunting. Certainly a better vampire film than the God-awful, embarrassing Twilight series (it makes vampire fans embarrassed to be vampire fans).
From 2008: Appaloosa (I've seen better made for TV westerns.) Valkyrie (Well made, but just okay) Gran Torino (well acted but a bit overrated) 2009: Taken (enjoyable but overrated) Push (light but fairly entertaining) Watchmen (Decent but not outstanding) Knowing (amusingly bad) State of Play (better than I would expect) X-Men Origins: Wolverine (pointless but watchable) Star Trek (most overrated film of the year thus far) Terminator Salvation (maybe the trailers were better than the movie, which seems more and more common, but I liked it)
Star Trek and Up. Kinda want to see Terminator: Salvation, but will probably wait for the dollar theater for that one.
These are all ones I saw at the cinema, I've mostly been watching TV shows on DVD lately. Twilight Role Models Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist Slumdog Millionaire Bolt 3D Punisher Warzone Friday the 13th My Bloody Valentine 3D Secret of Moonacre The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Gran Torino Watchmen The International Lesbian Vampire Killers Knowing Monsters VS Aliens Dragonball Evolution Race to Witch Mountain I Love You Man Observe and Report Wolverine (twice) Coraline 3D State of Play Star Trek (3 times) Angels and Demons Fighting Drag Me To Hell Terminator Salvation Night at the Museum 2 The Hangover
Milk [A]. I was very impressed by this film. The last half hour is the best part of the movie, and if there had been the same emotional impact throughout the entire film, the movie would have won Best Picture.
Ghost in the Shell (1995) - pretty good, but I wasn't wowed by it. Doomsday (2008) - post-apocalyptic hijinks in Scotland, with Neil Marshall concocting a pastiche of films such as Escape from New York, The Road Warrior, 28 Days Later, and Resident Evil, with some Gladiator and Robin Hood thrown in for good measure. It's enjoyably nutty, but nowhere near as good as The Descent. Bottle Rocket (1996) - the endearingly quirky comedy that put Wes Anderson and Owen and Luke Wilson on the map (they initially filmed it as a short film and then got the funding to expand it to a feature).
Films I've seen within the last year (2008-2009) for the first time: Freaks (Saw it last October. It's easily the most unique film ever made for its cast alone. The film puts its deformed cast in an sympathetic light. The viewers are firmly on their side. When they feel pain, you feel it. The ultimate story of the outsider. I have a great appreciation for the people in this historic and infamous cult film. "One of us!") Goya's Ghosts (Miloš Forman already directed the greatest period film ever, Amadeus. From that, you know what he is capable of and the period backdrop is similarly choreographed with Spain instead of Prague. While not as amazing as his masterpiece, this film is solid and well-done. Loved the teensy Mozart shout-out. Forman's asylum motif from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Amadeus and now this is intact. Stellan was great. Javier was genuinely creepy at being so grossly immoral.) Låt Den Rätte Komma In (One of the most unique and haunting films I've seen. This is how a vampire film should be made. It's also a strong example of foreign films branching out into the fantasy genre and being able to compete. The film is dark in the sense that the protagonist's story is one of becoming a willing accomplice to murder after victimization by cruel school children. Eli created a new companion and helper out of Oskar. I also like how the vampire effects and rules were done. And of course, there's the hint at androgynous Eli's origins and being an immortal genderless and incomplete 12-year-old. You almost want to see the remake just to see how they're going to deal with that! Lena Leandersson was very impressive.) 17 Again (Actually not quite as horrible as I thought it would be. It is slightly ripped off of Back to the Future--especially the daughter flirting with the father in his young body scenes, which were very Marty/Lorraine. Efron is actually starting to look like an adult male. This was definitely an attempt at a non-Disney film, however, the abstinence message, which I agree with, was overblown and made him really sound like a middle-aged loser father. Speaking of which, the older version was grossly miscast. I watched it mostly for Michelle Trachtenberg. I sit through the occasional crap movie for Jossverse alumni.) Twilight (I watched it like the derivative *sparkly* train wreck I knew it was and which half the people I know just mock endlessly. The acting is more abysmal than even horrible writing could possibly be. The only redeeming parts involved the evil trio and the quirky Cullens. Edward and Bella and the actors playing them were AWFUL! Unwatchable! My bleeding eyeballs! Enough of vampires in daylight. I hate this pansy new trend. And for God's sake, if you're going to do good vampires, don't make them glitter and sparkle! Let them keep some dignity in being dark, tormented and ambiguous. And I can't get over the stupid idea that Bella gets everything that she wants and becomes a vampire. That goes against everything the vampire-who-hates-what-he-is concept is about.) Star Trek (Best movie of the year. I love it. Inspired a big crush on Zachary Quinto.)
Yay, my first post! I work at a movie theater, so I get free movies and I try to go as often as I can. Marley and Me Valkyrie Slumdog Millionaire (easily my favorite for the 08 Oscar Race) Gran Torino (I need this on DVD for sure) Milk He Just Not that Into You Mall Cop Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li (this was laughable...) Coraline Fired Up Watchmen Miss March I Love You Man Taken Monsters vs Aliens Adventureland Sunshine Cleaning Dragonball Evolutions (again..laughable) Observe and Report 17 Again X Men Origins: Wolverine Star Trek! (This is honestly what launched me into the fandom sad, I know) Up Night at the Museum 2 Hangover Land of the Lost Theres quite a few DVDs I've watched but I can't remember them all. I just remember to save my tickets from the movies I go see.
The Reader [A] I've now seen the best picture nominees from 2008. I really enjoyed all five of them for once.


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The Dark Knight Rises (2012): NBA Playoff TV Spot
05/18/2012 - 1:14pm
The fire rises with the NBA Playoffs and The Dark Knight Rises!
Check out a combo TV Spot that was shown on ESPN.
The Dark Knight Rises hits theaters July 20th, 2012 and is directed by Christopher Nolan starring Christian Bale as Batman, Tom Hardy as Bane, Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle/Catwoman, Gary Oldman as Commissioner Gordon, Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox, Michael Cain as Alfred, Juno Temple and Josh Pence as a young Ra's al Ghul.
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SPAL USA's "Rocket Ranger" Pickup Sets New Land Speed Record
Aug 21, 2007, 01:00 ET from SPAL USA
ANKENY, Iowa, Aug. 21 /PRNewswire/ -- SPAL USA's "Rocket Ranger," driven by Hypermax Engineering's Max Lagod, has set a new land speed record and claimed the title of World's Fastest Diesel Pickup Truck during the Bonneville Salt Flats Speed Week, Aug. 11-17. (Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20070821/CLTU115) The "Rocket Ranger" achieved an average speed of 215.091 miles-per-hour -- nearly 2 miles-per-hour faster than the previous record of 213.583 miles-per- hour in the "C/Diesel Truck" class. SPAL's record is recognized by the Southern California Timing Association/Bonneville Nationals Inc. (SCTA/BNI). In 2001, SPAL USA approached Ford with the "Rocket Ranger" concept. Ford was eager to offer support by providing a stock Ford Ranger pickup. Currently the "Rocket Ranger" is equipped with a Ford Powerstroke(R)/International 6.0- litre diesel engine equipped with Hypermax intercooled series turbochargers, injectors and Mach 7 performance module, dual SPAL USA 12" high-performance cooling fans and a ZF 6-speed transmission. "The Bonneville Salt Flats is the ultimate proving ground to demonstrate the performance of our cooling fans and centrifugal blowers," said Heath Langenfeld, sales and market manager -- powersports, SPAL USA. "We are thrilled to achieve this prestigious record, not only for SPAL USA, but also for Hypermax." Lagod, who has driven the "Rocket Ranger" for the past three years, started road racing in 1988, won the SCCA GT-1 class national championship in 1997 and 1998 and recorded several top five finishes in SCCA Trans-Am racing. The "Rocket Ranger" qualified for the land speed record three times but had difficulty making the back up run. During the first back up run, a failed piston forced the team to change the truck's engine in Utah's 100-degree heat; an oil pump interfered with the second back up run. "It came down to the 11th hour, but in the end the truck definitely had a record-breaking performance," said Lagod. "It was so exciting to beat the existing land speed record to become a member of Bonneville's 200 mile-per- hour club with the 'Rocket Ranger'." Lagod said the team may return to the Bonneville Salt Flats in October to beat its own land speed record. SPAL's "Rocket Ranger" set its first land speed record in 2001 at the SCTA/BNI World Finals with a Roush-built NASCAR(R) Nextel Cup(R) engine enlarged to 371 cubic inches. It reached 205.208 miles-per-hour and shattered the existing "Modified Mid/Mini Pickup" class mark by almost 25 miles-per- hour. In 2003, SPAL USA's "Rocket Ranger" returned to Bonneville to mark the first time a Powerstroke diesel engine was used for a land speed record attempt. The truck reached a respectable 222 miles-per-hour but was unable to complete a back up run due to an electrical issue caused by an intercooler explosion on a previous run. "Nothing comes easy at Bonneville," said Mark Kitlinski, sales and market manager -- bus & truck, SPAL USA. "We are very proud of the work our dedicated team has put forth. This record breaking performance would not have been possible without the support of Hypermax, International Truck, Ford Motor Company, and Creative Werks Inc." SPAL is a leading manufacturer of ISO 9001-certified and TS16949-certified OEM and aftermarket automotive products, including electric cooling fans, centrifugal blowers, power window kits, power door lock kits, security systems, shaved door kits parking sensors, satellite/navigation systems, keyless entry systems and many other products. Founded in 1959, SPAL is headquartered in Correggio, Italy. The company maintains distribution facilities in Ankeny, Iowa, (SPAL USA), Sao Paulo (SPAL Brazil) and Shanghai (SPAL China). SPAL USA is located at 1731 SE Oralabor Rd., Ankeny, IA, 50021. Contact SPAL USA at 800.345.0327, fax 800.654.7725 or visit online at www.spalusa.com.


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I like your windows uncovered, Susie....perfect with the pendant. Really shows it off to a great advantage.Hello sweet Susie - I've been out of the loop for a couple of months. Enjoying catching up with my fave blogs! Love your sleek pendant! It looks like it was designed especially for that space. And having boys in the house does come in handy, doesn't it!
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The opening song in Hiatus Kaiyote's Tawk Tomahawk captures you instantly. Guitarist and lead singer Nai Palm's vocals are raw and sincere—weaving in and out of a beautiful blend of strings and snares. The debut EP is bold, yet intimate. Close your eyes after pressing play and you will be transported from your seat to the desert sands of Australia where the video for "Nakamarra" was filmed.
The Melbourne quartet is an internationally acclaimed "future soul" band. In little under two years, highly-respected artists, audiophiles and everyday people have been waxing poetic about Hiatus Kaiyote. The music is diverse and it expands into a sound that can't fit within the boundaries of a single genre. Each track is like a key ingredient in the listening experience that adds to a fusion of jazz, hip-hop, electronic, opera, rock and soul. Subtle traces of the group's major influences, ranging from Stevie Wonder and J Dilla to Flying Lotus are imbedded in the project.
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When Tawk Tomahawk was released in spring 2012, the EP quickly climbed the indie charts. It was as if a word-of-mouth shock wave moved from Melbourne, to Gilles Peterson in London, to Questlove and Erykah Badu in New York City and beyond. Hiatus Kaiyote began performing with artists like Taylor McFerrin (Brainfeeder) and José James (Blue Note) and are now headlining sold-out shows.
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The radiation at the Fukushima Daiichi plant broadly falls into two types of potentially harmful emissions. The first is the weakly penetrating beta-radiation from radionuclides such as iodine-131 and strontium-90, which pose a health risk if they come into contact with the skin or get ingested or inhaled into the body.
The second type is the penetrating gamma-radiation, which as the name implies can pass through some materials and clothing. The caesium isotopes are the main emitters of gamma-radiation which is dangerous at a distance, unlike the beta-emitters. Japan's nuclear watchdog said the radiation at the site is mainly beta radiation, which British experts suggest is probably from strontium-90, which will remain a biohazard until at least the middle of the century.
Radioactive substances decay at different rates. For instance, the half life of iodine-131 – the time for radiactivity to diminish by 50 per cent – is relatively short, just eight days, which means that it has now disappeared, and so no longer the concern it once was when the crisis first erupted in March 2011. Strontium-90, however, has a half-life of 30 years and this probably accounts for a substantial portion of the beta-radiation being found at the site.
The half lives of the caesium isotopes vary widely, from two years in the case of caesium-134 to 30 years in the case of caesium-137. The risk of radioactive caesium being taken up by fish in the ocean is the main reason why fishing was banned.
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PETERBOROUGH, ONTARIO--(Marketwired - Aug. 28, 2013) - The Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters (OFAH) and the Ontario Fur Managers Federation (OFMF) congratulate the Ministry of Natural Resources (MNR) for introducing a youth trapping program in the province. The announcement was made at the OFMF annual general meeting held in Napanee over the weekend.
"Trapping is a heritage activity and by providing an opportunity for youth to be involved, it will enhance their appreciation for the outdoors and instill a lifelong dedication to conservation," said OFAH Executive Director Angelo Lombardo. "The OFAH is pleased that the MNR recognizes that a youth trapping program will not only provide recreational and outdoor benefits, but also pass along knowledge of an activity that is part of the cultural fabric of Canada."
Beginning this fall, youth between the ages of 12 to 15 will be eligible to obtain a trapping license. The license will permit youth to possess, prepare and sell pelts commercially. To qualify, youth must successfully complete the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course (FHFMCC) and be accompanied by a licensed trapper 18 years of age or older. The FHFMCC provides training with an emphasis on safety, humane trapping techniques and sustainable wildlife management practices.
"The Ontario Fur Managers Federation has worked closely with the MNR to make this program a reality, and we are delighted that the government has agreed to move forward on this vital and timely initiative. The introduction of a youth trapping program will allow us to teach young people about the rich history associated with trapping in Ontario, and ensure that future generations understand the key role that trapping and trappers play in terms of conservation, sustainability, wildlife management, protection of crops and livestock and public safety," said OFMF President Karl Lindstrom.
"Trapping is considered an activity of significant historical, social, cultural and economic value in Ontario for centuries, and one that results in economic benefits to the communities and individuals. Ontario trappers have worked tirelessly for many years towards a program like this which will guide youth to be safe and responsible trappers," said Minister of Natural Resources David Orazietti.
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Before traveling to Syracuse, we stopped at the Burrville Cider Mill for some locally made cider and donuts. They were our potluck contribution. I mulled the cider and it was fantastic. Visiting the mill was a wonderful way to ring in the new season. Autumn pleases all of the senses! |
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by BendtheBar 05-13-2011, 09:04 AM
Extreme Depth: Unsafe and Unfair Squat depth has been a matter of controversy in powerlifting since the 1970s and continues to be so. In todays era, the usual focus is on squats passed in multi-ply competitions that seem insufficiently deep. I would like to discuss an aspect of the depth debate that is less focused uponthe frequent requirement of excessive depth in the International Powerlifting Federation (IPF) and its American affiliate, USA Powerlifting (USAPL). Legal squat depth in the IPF is defined as follows: Upon receiving the chief referees signal, the lifter must bend the knees and lower the body until the top surface of the legs at the hip joint is lower than the top of the knees. (The World Powerlifting Congress rulebook likewise states, Upon receiving the head referees signal, the lifter must bend the knees and lower the body until the top surface of the legs at the hip joint are lower than the top of knees.) With this standard in mind, I will begin with three squats from three continents that were turned down on depth: It isnt a petty complaint but plain reality to note that these squats were sufficiently deep. There have been numerous other incidents like this through the present, which space considerations do not permit me to post. As some more recent examples, see the first squat and the third squat (and another third attempt from this year). As a notable historical example, see Ed Coans third squat at the IPF Worlds in 1996. There are two problems with requiring a standard of depth beyond what the rulebook describes. The first problem is fairness and respect. Lifters have trained for months and often traveled significant distance at considerable expense to compete at a meet. Fair judging is the most fundamental respect they deserve. When referees red light squats that arent even borderline good but clearly deep, an obnoxious theft has occurred. (Speaking of borderline situations, IPF policy is that All doubt must be made in favor of the lifter. Policy and practice are often two different things though.) The second problem with requiring excessive depth is lifter safety. Jake Impastato, who competed at the 2010 USAPL Raw Challenge at the Arnold Classic, remarked of his meet experience in relation to powerlifting legend Mike Bridges bombing out on squats (view his first and third attempts), When I arrived that morning, the rumors going around the Grand Ballroom were that your squats had to be very deep. There happened to be quite a few injuries that were probably due to lifters really trying to go extra deep on their squats. I actually got a light quad strain that forced me to pass on my third squat. Likewise, Becky Rich, who holds the world record raw total without wraps in the 123-lb weight class, comments about 2008 USAPL Raw Nationals: It was the inaugural USAPL Raw Nationals, and it seemed like the judges had something to prove. A large number of first day lifters ended up bombing and not necessarily because they deserved it. Similar accounts followed 2006 USAPL Masters Nationals, as reported on the website PowerliftingWatch on May 8, 2006 and May 21, 2006. A final examplea top USAPL lifters opening squat at the IPF Worlds a few years ago was turned down on depth, despite being clearly good. The lifter repeated the weight and went extra deep, the coach told me. This resulted in a back injury, a failed third attempt, and diminished deadlift performance. Such injuries are to be expected with excessive depth. Mark Rippetoe, coauthor of Starting Strength: Basic Barbell Training and competitive powerlifter from 1978 to 1988, has noted in the context of ass to grass squats, Squat depth is critically important but so is correct form. ATG-level depth most usually requires that the lumbar muscles relax the lordosis and that the hamstrings relax before extreme depth can be reached. It doesnt sound like a good idea to me that anything be relaxed in a deep squat, [because] doing this kills your good controlled rebound out of the bottom and risks your intervertebral discs. And that much less of a good idea with a maximal weight on ones back. If unfair judging that jeopardizes lifter safety is probable in certain meets, lifters deserve to be aware of this before investing money and confidence in the competition. If a lifter is OK with likely rejection of good squats or jeopardizing their spinal and orthopedic health to secure lifts, thats their freedom of choice. But people should know what theyre getting into. Prudence and caution please, wrote a senior USAPL official in a recent USAPL newsletter ridiculing federations that he called just the new flavor of the month and are soaring in numerous liabilities. The assertion of liabilities is particularly brazen given the liabilities that USAPL practices with its unsafe depth requirements. Prudence and caution? Both are in order toward an organization that displays habitual recklessness and unfairness. (As another example of glaring liability, at least one of the platforms at the 2010 USAPL American Open was hazardous. See the deadlifts and lifters comments in this video.) I competed at the state, regional, and national level in the USAPL from 2007 to 2009. I found squat judging to be fair in Florida, and other lifters competed in the USAPL based on my recommendation. It is now 2011, and I cant ignore what I have learned between 2009 and now. As the saying goes, When the facts change, my opinion changes.
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The USAPL around my neck of the woods is known for a deep requirement. It's really the only game in town too (the state).
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I would never go so deep as to relax the hams as i dont think i would get back up... Plus I want every muscle tight a furrk when Im squatting so I dont get squashed under the bar.
I think some people see going ATG as some macho crap, but I think as long as you are going below parallel or as deep as you can without losing tightness thats fine. Thats the trouble with having loads of different feds and governing bodies for things like powerlifting, there isnt a constant that you can train to. My ATG isnt the same as someone elses due to flexibility etc etc... its not fair to bomb someone out because of things that arent strength related. It should just be a standard 'one the hip joint is below the knee joint its good' type of thing (or howver they want to regulate depth), but however they do it, it should be standardised. carl.
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Man, those were 3 good looking squats. Wow, and I thought I was going plenty, plenty deep enough. Still am, but maybe I won't compete if I ever get strong enough.
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Great reading for relative novices like me. Cheers Steve.
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I have to be honest. Before 2008 I didn't know ATG squats existed. I certainly wouldn't do them with one rep max weight, but they feel ok for me in with lighter weights. Mileage may vary, I suppose.
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Max Brawn
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I disagree with the idea that ATG squats are dangerous; most people just don't perform them correctly. They are not like your typical back squat; you pretty much just drop straight down. A lot of folks tend to sit back and try to reach their calves, resulting in back rounding.
That said, those squats looked perfectly fine to me...I don't see why any of them wouldn't pass.
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Max Brawn
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Personally, I love to see real deep competition squats (or gym squats), it has some interest and drama, it looks like a full range movement. Like when someone like Koklyaev lifts, for example. And I hate, hate, hate to see guys in fabric exoskeletons doing a little curtsey with 1200lbs on their backs. It's boring to watch and it looks ridiculous. All imho . |
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