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Gary and I had scheduled a Monday morning meeting in Chicago that required us to go there Sunday. So we decided to make the most of inconvenience and go out for a very good meal that Sunday night. And what a meal we had.
We knew about the meeting a month out so we had time to decide and get a reservation. So we created a list of possibilities and narrowed the list down to Table 52. This is Chef Art Smith's place in Chicago which features Southern Cooking. I have seen Chef Smith several times on Iron Chef America and Top Chef. He was Oprah's personal chef, recently cooked for Lady Gaga and President Obama and Michelle ate at Table 52 for Valentine's Day so there was a really good chance it was going to be memorable. And it was.
Gary started his meal with the Southern Pickles. The dish came with several house-pickled cauliflower, carrots and okra with micro greens, onions, two kinds of salt, baguette, smoked gouda and jelly on the side. The idea was to make your own pickle sandwich out of the ingredients trying the different ingredients. I like participation dishes like this where you can choose your own combination of food so when Gary offered a taste, I went for it. The pickled vegetables were tender and sweetly pickled but not to the point where the taste of the vegetable was lost or the crunch was gone. The rest of elements added interesting tastes of sweet jam and salty salts along with different textures of crusty bread, crunchy pickles and gooey jam. Combining the different elements of the dish was fun but we both agreed that although the gouda cheese was fine on it's own we couldn't find a combination that matched well with the cheese.
I went for the Beet Salad for my first course. The salad came with nice portions of two colourful beets, whipped goat cheese, thyme crumble and Myer lemon puree. For what I thought was going to be a simple salad turned out to be a very complex dish by the various combination of items you could put on your fork. The sweetness of the beets matched well against the tartness of the Myer Lemon Puree and the almost metallic flavour of the Thyme Crumble. The textures of the dish also provided a spectrum of densities, firm beets, semi soft Whipped Goat Cheese and thick puree. We wanted wine with the meal and had our waiter match a glass of wine with each course. For this course we had Acustic from Montsant (Catalonia, Spain) named 'unplugged' in the same way that you find 'naked' (oak free) Chardonnay.
For Gary's second course, he went for the classic southern dish Fried Green Tomatoes. The two large heirloom tomato slices were lightly battered and then pan-fried giving the tomatoes a light crunch with a soft center. Along with the tomatoes came fresh greens, creme fraise and a light tomato puree. Like an old married couple, Gary and I ended up sharing tastes from each others dishes so I can report this version of the southern classic was great. The sweetness of the fried tomatoes contrasting nicely with the spicy tomato puree. The crisp greens and silky puree matched well also. For this course, our waiter recommended the Eyrie Chardonnay from Oregon. I found the wine to have a light oakiness and a little bit fruity. A nice match for both the Fried Green tomatoes and my dish.
For my second course, I also went for a southern classic in Low-Country Shrimp and Grits. I lived in Florence, South Carolina back in the 80's so I tried grits many times but never became a big fan but when you are at Art Smith's restaurant you give them another try. It was great!. These grits were Stone-ground White Corn Grits and so different from my memories of the 80's. These grits were more like a risotto than the cream of wheat memories. These grits were nice and creamy as a whole but the individual grits still had a bite to them as in "el dente" pasta. A very nice consistency. The Wild-Caught Shrimp were tender, sweet and well-cooked. The Spicy Tomato Sauce contrasted well with the sweet shrimp and creamy grits. Basically a very simple dish but well executed with excellent ingredients.
For Gary's main course, he went for the Fish of the Day special, which was Halibut. I forgot to bring my recorder to get all the details of the dish but from my memory, the fish was pain fried and topped with a variety of vegetables and greens. I got to taste the fish and it was perfectly cooked with flakes falling off with just the touch of your folk. Halibut is my favourite fish and Table 52 did it right.
For the main course we decided to order the Braised Collard Greens with Smoked Turkey as our side dish. Collard Greens are about as "southern" as you can get but the smoked turkey was different twist I had not seen before. The more common version I had seen when I lived in the south was with ham hocks. The turkey version turned out fine with greens taking on a light sweet taste of the turkey but not the saltness of the ham version. The greens were well-cooked, infusing the turkey into the vegetable but stopping the cooking before turning the veggies into mush. This was the best dish of collard greens I have ever eaten.
For my main course, I went for the Maple Sugar Short Ribs. These were the most tender short ribs I ever had in my life. Just using your fork you could twist the meat and it would flake off into single strands of flavourful meat. The carmelized maple sugar matched well with meaty flavours of the short rib. The dish came with red wine reduction that match well but I was so focused on the tender meat. A potato puree was the matching starch and a carmelized onion accompanied the dish. Our waiter recommended the 2007 Cristom Pinot Noir to go with the dish. I thought this was an interesting recommendation given Gary's fish and my short rib selection but it ended up being perfect for both of us. Not overcoming the fish and not under powered for the ribs. Nice wine selecting Justin.
I have had the privilege to eat in several celebrity chef restaurants; Emeril's, Bobby Flay's Mesa Grill, BLT Prime, Daniel, over the years but one thing was always missing, the celebrity chef. Until this visit. Making several tours of the dining room during our three courses was owner/celebrity chef Art Smith. He stopped at every table checking to see how the meal was progressing. I thought the treat of the evening was going to be this photo of the two of us but it got better when Art joined us at our table as the restaurant thinned out at the end of service. They say that television puts pounds on you but this thinner and fitter version of Chef Smith has been dieting and exercising lately and looked the healthiest I have ever seen him. I wish I could say that about myself but after this great meal, I wouldn't have much credibility would I.
It gets worse, Gary and I agreed that we were going to pass on dessert as we were both pretty full from the three courses, wine and cocktails we had already consumed. But as we sat there with Chef Smith he had the staff big over some desserts for us to try. First came the Smith Family Twelve-Layer Chocolate Cake. Delicious, light and a great chocolate flavour. The cake came with Vanilla Gelato and Strawberry for contrast.
Next came the Peanut Brittle. I remember peanut brittle as a Christmas treat during my childhood but this was the best brittle I ever had. The thick rich harden caramel sauce was chock full of fresh Georgia peanuts. I was amazed at how thick the brittle was. It was very good and very sweet.
Finally Executive Chef John, formerly of Charlie Trotter's restaurant, brought over Art's Hummingbird Cake. I had my share of cake when I lived in the south but never had Hummingbird cake. If I had most likely I would still be in the south cause this is great cake. Art make his version with Banana and Pineapple flavours three layers high all coated in Cream Cheese Frosting. Served on the side is a wonderful Vanilla Gelato. It was delicious with all the different flavours going on and amazingly light.
We had a great chat with Chef Smith during our 30 minute sit-down talking about everything from the making of Iron Chef, his diet and exercise plan, to who's cooking in Chicago he likes (and who's he doesn't) and where he likes to go hear the Blues in Chicago. The evening ending amazingly with Chef taking us to his favourite Blues Club in Chicago and having a couple of cocktails listening happily to the blues.
It was an amazing meal that will, most likely, never happen again. Thanks Gary and Chef Smith for a great meal and a great story.
Read other reviews about Table 52 here, here and here.
Table 52 52 Elm Street, Chicago, IL – 312-573-4000


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You know that colourful tin of tuna you drop into your supermarket basket every week? Ever wonder what's in it? Probably not; in a matter of decades, tuna has gone from being exotic mystery to an almost generic foodstuff, as ubiquitous as bread and milk – there's even one brand of canned tuna called "chicken of the sea". No disrespect to chickens, but the many species of formidable, predatory tuna that charge around our oceans in large schools are in a different league altogether.
But back to the tinned variety; Greenpeace recently commissioned the first ever independent, public genetic tests into tinned tuna, to find out what was really going on inside 50 brands of tinned tuna. Analysis of products from 12 countries, including the US, Canada, Australia, and several European countries, turned up some pretty dodgy things inside some of them.
Inside some tins (brands Calvo, Campos in Spain), two different species of tuna were found, which is illegal in several jurisdictions, including in the EU, while in others (for example Clover Leaf in Canada and Nostromo [owned by Calvo] in Italy), tins from different batches were found to have different species inside separate tins.
While this apparently sloppy behaviour should set alarm bells ringing from a consumer point of view, there's actually even more to be concerned about; the tinned tuna industry, through what appears to be lazy disregard for both its customers and future tuna availability, is forcing consumers and retailers into involvement in a trail of destruction.
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It starts with a fad. That's FAD, or a fish aggregation device– an elaborate name for an object placed in the water, which attracts lots of fish. FADs allow the fishing industry to catch a lot of tuna at the same time, but since different species are all attracted, including young fish it also causes a lot of bycatch.
Turtles, sharks, and various species of tuna, including juveniles of species under pressure like yellowfin tuna or bigeye tuna are caught in the same nets. This is not only killing hundreds of thousands of sharks, which are either drowning in the nets or dying an agonizing death once they have had their fins cut off and are thrown back into the sea, but it is also killing turtles and non-target fish species.
After genetic tests of tuna in tins, Greenpeace has found that many contain evidence of bycatch and unsustainable fishing practices. The use of fish aggregating devices (FADs)is one of the main reasons for this.
Now, we're not saying there's turtle or shark in your tuna tin, at least not literally. But when the juvenile tuna are sent ashore for processing and frozen, identification and sorting is apparently very difficult, resulting in species being mixed in the tinning process. We say apparently, as it may just be a case of it being financially uninteresting for the tuna industry to separate the species.
Whatever the reason, the problem keeps coming back to FADs. By using these fish-attractors in tandem with purse seine nets, the tuna industry is destroying its own future and pushing towards the collapse of tuna stocks. By catching small, young fish, it's ensuring that there will be fewer large tuna in the future. That's bad news for your tuna salad, bad news for the fishing industry, and dismal news for the "chicken of the sea".
Greenpeace is calling for a ban on FADs in purse seining – we want them banned for using tuna fishing throughout our oceans. Fishing with seine nets only would help minimise the bycatch of other animals, as well as drastically reduce the amount of juvenile tuna ending up in tins.
To help support such a ban we need to take action in the supermarket. Consumers don't want dodgy tuna, and neither do retailers. Every industry fears the wrath of consumer opinion; and we can use this to persuade the tuna industry to clean up its act, and to stop forcing dodgy tuna down our throats.
Photo: Fish school and a shark congregate around a fish aggregation device. © Paul Hilton / Greenpeace
Note from AZTI-Tecnalia, who performed the tests for Greenpeace: Analytical results performed by AZTI-Tecnalia under its patented method for discrimination of Thunuus obesus and Thunnus albacares. AZTI has not participated on the sample collection and the design of the experiment and is not responsible for the use of the results delivered, or any information derived from its analysis and interpretation.
Juliette is a Digital Mobilisation Specialist at Greenpeace International. She likes chocolate, narwhals, and is slightly obsessed with the Arctic.
It would be good to label a certified "green" fishing industry product as it is donewith fair trade product.
It would give the onsumer...
It would be good to label a certified "green" fishing industry product as it is donewith fair trade product.
It would give the onsumer the choice to choose the right product.
Greenpeace may just be the right oranization to do that and at the same time generate more resources from the joining companies.
25 November, 2010 at 3:12
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@Laurent: That's what the MSC tries to do (#1). It certainly seems to work (from a consumer / market point of view) as large suppliers and supermarkets jumped on the bandwagon.
With the MSC it's important to realize that they only look at the fisheries (stocks, sustainable in the long run etc) in itself: the assessment scheme does not take in account that it (hypothetically) takes 50 litres of petrol to get one kilo of fish in your oven... Think of it like (bio-)organic products that are not necessary eco-friendly, and can often be worse for the environment than their non-organic counterparts.
Going beyond what MSC tries to do might have negative results. Fair Trade already seems hard (and often expensive) to manage and assess properly. With products like canned and processed fish it's even harder. Pushing for this might actually mean that small players in the fishing industry loose out (even more) to the big ones: it's simply bloody expensive to get something (anything) "accredited", and in the end you still do the same thing you did before... but now with a good feeling for the consumer. While I'm not saying that small-scale fisheries are definitely better than fisheries 'owned' & operated by large multinationals (500 mini-boats with sails can potentially do as much damage as industrial trawlers), this can lead to some big social injustice for the humans involved. Do we actually want that?
#1) MSC certified fisheries: http://www.msc.org/track-a-fishery/certified/certified-fisheries-on-the-map (some are certainly open for debate..)
25 November, 2010 at 19:22
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Could you initiate an action on world level like :
Don't buy any TUNA can or fish for one or two months, like March - April 2011
Could you initiate an action on world level like :
Don't buy any TUNA can or fish for one or two months, like March - April 2011
Thanks for your work,
Best greetings from Switzerland
29 November, 2010 at 13:32
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I find this report totally bewildering and wonder if anyone else does as well. For example; why would I, as a consumer care all that much ( or at all ...
I find this report totally bewildering and wonder if anyone else does as well. For example; why would I, as a consumer care all that much ( or at all ) if the can of tuna I just purchased contained more than one species of tuna? The tin states that it contains 'tuna' and indeed it does so what is your point GP?
I was fully expecting to read about the mercury, PCB, etc. that is found in Tuna as well as other 'top predators' yet there was not even a mention of these dangerous compounds!? I also thought that there would be a mention concerning the large numbers of Dolphins which are killed by the Tuna industry but again not the slightest mention of this.
Furthermore, the article speaks of 'dodgy' things found inside cans of Tuna yet does not mention what these things are. Just because there may be more than one species of Tuna in the can this hardly makes the product 'dodgy'. I just don't get it. Would someone please explain why GP is focusing on something as irrelevant as multiple species of Tuna in a can yet ignores these far more important issues?
30 November, 2010 at 19:36
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A few points;
Firstly, the MSC do not only consider fish stocks. They have 3 main principes which fisheries may be certified against 1) f...
A few points;
Firstly, the MSC do not only consider fish stocks. They have 3 main principes which fisheries may be certified against 1) fish stocks, 2) environmental impact and 3) management. They also have a further 27 criteria. They have received a lot of criticism about the scheme not being fully sustainable, and I for one agree. Fisheries can be granted MSC certification if fish stocks are below healthy, as long as they aim to improve them. Fisheries can also escape their annual assessment for a small fee. In regards to Tuna, the MSC has just 4 tuna fisheries certified (5 if you separate North & South American Albacore Fishing Association), and as Albacore is listed as 'data deficient' by the IUCN then surely it is unwise to commerically fish. It is incredibly difficult to assess fish stocks, and the oceans naturally habit is to fluctuate, so extracting large amounts of fish very close to biological limits it a dangerous activity.
How can we go beyond MSC certification? It is already too expensive for small fisheries to obtain. It costs ~£10,000 to become certified, and annual fees may range from £5000 - £75,000(possibly dollars, not pounds).
Ethically traded fish? That is almost impossible due to the nature of fishing ports and global trade.
Dolphin friendly tuna creates about 52X the amount of bycatch as dolphin 'deadly' tuna, so this is an unjust example of speciesism. Dolphin 'friendly' has huge quantities of endangered sharks, turtles, baracuda, rays etc., etc.
The species of Tuna is highly important due to the dwindling stocks of many species. Although you may not care, you should. Bluefin and bigeye are highly threatened and should not be extracted from our oceans due to a desire for protein. Personally, I see no benefits in eating tinned Tuna as it looses its omega-3 acids and is therefore no better than eating a white fish, say cod. The FSA recommend eating Tuna as fresh, as it retains goodness, and from an Environmental perspective, you know what species it is.
The problem of PCB and mercury poisoning is only an issue with consumption - if you are concerned, do not eat it. It takes huge amounts of these chemicals to cause toxicity, yet effects may be passed down from mother to child during pregnancy and accumulate up the food chain. As humans are at the top, the highest dosage would be passed onto us. Look up the Minimata Bay disaster for more info on mercury poisoning...
In summary, don't eat fish.
Sorry for my rant
1 December, 2010 at 12:26
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Why has nobody stated the obvious? All animal killing industries and commercial fishing are unsustainable and very cruel. The MSC (for fish) is just a...
Why has nobody stated the obvious? All animal killing industries and commercial fishing are unsustainable and very cruel. The MSC (for fish) is just as unreliable as is the FSC (for timber) and the RSPO (for palm oil).
It is unacceptable that governments subsidize commercial fishing. I have written to the Croatian Government and some institutions of the EU regarding this matter.
I am vegan since 1994 and encourage others to reject all animal products. It takes much less land to produce vegan food than food of animal origin to provide for the same number of people. That frees up the oceans and much land area for other species. All species have an intrinsuc value and the right to survive. Humans already exploit about 83% of the land and sea for their own needs and wants; all the other species share the remaining 17%. Go vegan!
It is also necessary for all the large ecological organizations to be more open to advocating population control. Governments should stop financial incentives for people to have more than 2 children.
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@Brucef The fact that we found different species in the tuna cans is a hint that unsustainable fishing methods were used to catch this fish. Capturing...
@Brucef The fact that we found different species in the tuna cans is a hint that unsustainable fishing methods were used to catch this fish. Capturing different species is a mark of the use of FADs, as they attract all fish. This means that the fishermen could be capturing juvenile fish (that hasn't yet had time to reproduce, thereby hindering the chances of the stock to be stable or grow), or some species that are known to be in decline currently.
This method of fishing also causes sharks and turtles to be among the by-catch, though they are commonly thrown overboard after they've been caught.
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@JulietteH, sometimes you have to paint with a big brush and in broad strokes for people to understand.
@Brucef, I hope that you have re...
@JulietteH, sometimes you have to paint with a big brush and in broad strokes for people to understand.
@Brucef, I hope that you have read the response above from JulietteH, the key things to pick up on are the words JUVENILE, UNSUSTAINABLE. We cannot continue with wreckless abandon. The fact that there is bycatch caught in the nets along with the tuna does not mean that it all finds it way into your tin of tuna. It is however wasted by either dying in the nets or by being mutilated and thrown back overboard into the sea. This type of action is irresponsible and industries should be held to task.
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This might be one of the best dolphin watching encounters ever! It happened this past weekend out in Southern California. Lucky, lucky passengers! And it is not the first time this has happened in Dana Point, CA. Apparently, this area of California has an incredibly high concentration of dolphins. Who knew?
Seems like Captain Dave is the go-to guy for dolphin and whale watching out on the West Coast! Enjoy!


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begatt necesitaba un nuevo diseño de logotipo y lanzó un concurso de diseño en 99designs.
Un ganador ha sido elegido entre 166 diseños de 36 diseñadores freelance.
webMsolutions.com AND webMstrategies.org
webMsolutions is a website marketing and management company providing simple, fast and effective web solutions and strategies based on proven online marketing tools and techniques.
Both domains (webMsolutions and webMstrategies) will initially point to a single domain (webMsoultions.com), but future expansion into distinctive services and markets may provide opportunities for 2 different Internet presences.
Existing and future markets include both online and offline small businesses.
A segment of the company does provide services to Christian non-profit entities.
We are looking for a logo that will set the stage for our entire online presence.
We want to maintain a business professional appearance but still have a cutting edge modern feel. We do not want to have too much Web 2.0 influence, however, a small influence will be considered.
With the 2 distinct domains, but very similar word structure and appearance, we believe it should be simple to interchange "solutions" with "strategies".
2 distinct logos ARE NOT REQUIRED. They are optional if the designer wishes to include one for each domain within the stated budget.
No cartoons.
Feel free to experiment with colors!
The files we will need to be scalable and usable for both print and online.
Please do not use any stock images or clip art in the logo.
NOTE: If you believe any of these requirements are beyond the scope of the original design brief or they present any kind of hardship for you, please let us know. We do not wish to cause any difficulties for any designers.
As the contest has progressed, we have been discussing what we would like delivered from the contest winner.
We are looking to also have a distinctive graphic that will serve as branding for the company. It will be used strategically throughout our on-line presence (icons, headers, footers, backgrounds, etc).
We do not use in-house graphic design software other than Gimp at this time. We have had difficulty with PNG files not being layered properly in the past, however, if this can be overcome, we are not opposed to PNG files. Other formats are also acceptable if they can be easily manipulated within Gimp.
We have also decided to create 2 separate organizations webMsolutions.com and webMstrategies.org with the same logo design with variation only in color and distinction with .com verses .org.
We will use the logo primarily on-line, but also for print material (business cards, stationary, brochures, etc). File formats must be provided accordingly.
We are not completely familiar with font licensing requirements, however, we expect the designer to fulfill any font licensing needs, rasterizing, etc. accordingly.
The items we wish to receive include:
- Primary logos for webMsolutions.com and webMstrategies.org
- White (not grey or tan or anything else) background version
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Again, PLEASE NOTE: If you believe any of these requirements are beyond the scope of the original design brief or they present any kind of hardship, please let us know. We do not wish to cause any difficulties for any designers.
Thank you all for your submissions. We are excited by what has been provided thus far.
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Have you ever heard of Trenary Toast?
It's sort of like a cross between biscotti and cinnamon toast, and it's a specialty of Michigan's Upper Peninsula. I learned of it on The Splendid Table and nearly broke everything in my path to google the stuff.
To learn a little more about the sweet itself, I'll give you the description from the Trenary House Bakery website:
Our toast is made from a sweet white bread, baked fresh daily. To create our cinnamon toast, we paint the bread with a wash and hand coat each piece with a tantalizing cinnamon and sugar mixture. It is then baked again to acheive that delicious crispy crunch for dunking into your favorite beverage.
As Jane and Michael Stern echo, "Like biscotti and zwieback, Trenary Toast is a brittle breadstuff eminently suitable for dunking."
Seems that this has been a specialty of the area since the 1930s, when the bakery was built; even through the time the bakery (with living quarters) was changed to a boarding house, and then back to a bakery (which it is now), the toast has been a mainstay.
You can order online, or as they urge on the site,
Come and visit us in Trenary in the heart of Michigan's beautiful Upper Peninsula and try some of our delicious Trenary Toast in the familiar brown bag, have a cup of coffee and freshly baked Cinnamon Roll. Take yourself back in time when everything was fresh and sweet to the taste. A simplier time, hand crafted by people who care.
Sounds good to me. Find out more at the Trenary Home Bakery website!


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With Facebook shares trading at all-time lows, investors in the busted IPO are gnashing their teeth.
But they're not the only ones.
California state officials had been counting on a big boost to state revenues from the social networking company .
California Governor Jerry Brown's office put the number as high as $1.9 billion, assuming that Facebook shares are trading around $35 later this year when restricted stock unit lockups end.
Now however, with Facebook barely above $20, those assumptions are very much in doubt.
And as the Legislative Analyst's Office told the Sacramento Bee "if the company's stock price remains depressed, hundreds of millions of income tax dollars assumed in the 2012-13 state budget plan are at risk."
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ATG Test Match Championship: 'GROUP B'
The Scenario
Each contestent has rented a Time Machine, gone back in time, and assembled their own ATG team as listed below. Each player in the team is in the peak form of their career, and is injury free.
Since the Test Match Championship will be played in modern conditions using modern equipment, the respective teams have been assembled in advance, and have played a full season in local competitions. 'Old Timers' have remarked that they, "thoroughly enjoyed the experience", and that playing in 21st century conditions with excellent equipment was a "revelation".
The Test Match Championship is comprised of Home and Away fixtures between each of the seven teams. The strongest team with the most wins in 'GROUP B' will advance to the Grand Final against the winner of 'GROUP A'.
Voting Rules
Please vote for the 3 strongest teams. That is, the 3 teams that you think are the most likely to win the most matches in the ATG Test Match Championship, Group Stage. As usual for Test Match cricket, Wins = 1 point, and Draws/Losses = 0
Voting will be stopped and counted at 8:00 pm Sydney Time, THURSDAY. Votes after that time will be discounted. If there is a tie then voting will continue for a further 24 hours to break the deadlock.
Please remember to vote for 3 'GROUP A' teams when you have finished voting for your 3 'GROUP B' teams.
As stated before, the winner of 'GROUP B' will advance to the Grand Final against the winner of 'GROUP A'.
CHASINGTHEDONs XI
Home Venue: Riverside Ground
01. Graham Gooch
02. Graeme Smith
03. Clem Hill
04. Peter May*
05. Martin Crowe
06. Aubrey Faulkner
07. Adam Gilchrist+
08. Jack Gregory
09. Hedley Verity
10. Alec Bedser
11. Brian Statham
12th Tony Greig
FREDFERTANGs XI
Home Venue: Old Trafford Cricket Ground
01. Victor Trumper
02. Virender Sehwag
03. Ted Dexter*
04. Brian Lara
05. Kevin Pietersen
06. Martin Donnelly
07. Alan Knott+
08. Harold Larwood
09. Johnny Wardle
10. Ted McDonald
11. Joel Garner
12th Reggie Spooner
KYEARs XI
Home Venue: Kensington Oval
01. Bruce Mitchell
02. Vijay Merchant
03. Viv Richards*
04. Inzamam-ul-Haq
05. AB De Villiers+
06. Stanley Jackson
07. Roy Kilner
08. Jim Laker
09. Dennis Lillee
10. Wes Hall
11. Ian Bishop
12th. Tip Snooke
WATSONs XI
Home Venue: Sydney Cricket Ground
01. Matthew Hayden
02. Stewie Dempster
03. Neil Harvey
04. Greg Chappell
05. Lindsay Hassett
06. Warwick Armstrong*
07. Ian Healy+
08. Richard Hadlee
09. Dale Steyn
10. Arthur Mailey
11. Neil Adcock
12th Percy Fender
MORGIEBs XI
Home Venue: Sydney Cricket Ground
01. Sunil Gavaskar
02. Bill Woodfull
03. David Boon
04. Cyril Washbrook
05. Allan Border*
06. Monty Noble
07. John Waite+
08. Stuart Broad
09. Fazal Mahmood
10, Bill O'Reilly
11. Glenn McGrath
12th Frank Foster
Home Venue: Sydney Cricket Ground
01. Gordon Greenidge
02. Bob Simpson*
03. Zaheer Abbas
04. Walter Hammond
05. Dudley Nourse
06. Phil Mead
07. Shaun Pollock
08. Bert Oldfield+
09. Alan Davidson
10. Bobby Peel
11. Allan Donald
12th. Cheteshwar Pujara
CAMO999s XI
Home Venue: Melbourne Cricket Ground
01. Jack Hobbs
02. WGGrace
03. Virat Kohli
04. Javed Miandad
05. Bill Ponsford
06. Clive Lloyd*
07. Richie Benaud
08. Don Tallon+
09. Wasim Akram
10. Shane Bond
11. Bill Johnston
12th. Herman Griffith
As a reminder, the Op was.......
The Best of Each Decade Birthday Draft
The idea is to select 12 players, one from each decade. To stop arguments about whether Hobbs was a pre-War batsman, or a batsman from the 1920s, we'll be going by each player's Birthday. The cut-off Birthday dates for each decade are as follows;
>=1980s - After 31/12/1979
1970s - 01/01/1970 to 31/12/1979
1960s - 01/01/1960 to 31/12/1969
1950s - 01/01/1950 to 31/12/1959
1940s - 01/01/1940 to 31/12/1949
1930s - 01/01/1930 to 31/12/1939
1920s - 01/01/1920 to 31/12/1929
1910s - 01/01/1910 to 31/12/1919
1900s - 01/01/1900 to 31/12/1909
1890s - 01/01/1890 to 31/12/1899
1880s - 01/01/1880 to 31/12/1889
<=1870s - Before 01/01/1880
An example of a team, should you be so lucky, would be;
01. Jack Hobbs (1882) - 1880s
02. Herbert Sutcliffe (1894) - 1890s
03. Walter Hammond (1903) - 1900s
04. Greg Chappell (1948) - 1940s
05. Stan McCabe (1910) - 1910s
06. Garry Sobers (1936) - 1930s
07. Adam Gilchrist (1971) - 1970s
08. Malcolm Marshall (1958) - 1950s
09. Hugh Trumble (1867) <=1870s
10. Allan Donald (1966) - 1960s
11. Dale Steyn (1983) - >=1980s
12th. Arthur Morris (1922) -1920s
Each participant has 12 hours to pick their player for the Round. The odd numbered Rounds will be randomised, and the corresponding even Rounds will be in reverse order.
If a participant misses 2 consecutive Rounds then the next participant in the order can make their pick straight away without waiting the 12 hours. If a participant misses 3 consecutive Rounds then they will be assumed to be unavailable and cannot return to the game.
As usual, NO Bradman.
Feel free to join in. Anyone one play, but it's first come first served, so be quick. It would be nice to get 10 to 14 participants.
(If you don't think that the cut-offs for each decade are quite right then please let me know before we start)
Cheers - Watson


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I had this question asked on stackoverflow, but it was closed "as not a real question".
So i decided to remove all rumbling and post that question here, assuming that this stackexchange is for "conceptual questions about software development"
The main question is in the title: Why rpm and deb package formats are not unified into one standard system?
I think that this is very important step, which we need to do, because such format fragmentation is bad, and not only for independant software developers, but for other tools and languages, who reinventing own packaging, like vim, python, ruby, nodejs, php, eclipse and many many others


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Anyhow this 8 minutes documentary was better than this 1 hour crap produced by the GIS !!
After the return of El Shazly to Egypt and doing his sentence , he met with Chief of staff then Magdy Hatata asking him to meet with the commanders of the army then in order to share all his experience just in case in the future he will not be there.
El Shazly met with the commanders and Hatata and shared all what he believed those commanders need to know from his experience especially in 1973. I wonder if those commanders shared this info to the new commanders currently in control of the army. In fact I wonder if we have a new El Shazly at all.
He was scared that we would repeat his mistakes in wars once again.
In his last days sometimes he would be awake enough to understand what was going on. His daughter , pro-Revolutionary Shahdan told him about Tahrir square and our revolution.
El Shazly died on February 10,2011. At the same day he was buried in Egypt's land he vowed to protect Mubarak stepped down.
May Allah bless your soul El Shazly.
By the way did you know that Shahdan El Shazly , the daughter of the late general was the first and only Arab living woman to have a full training of paratroopers !?? Oh yes she did after all her late father was the founder of Egyptian paratroopers forces in 1954.
|Shedwan with her dad
do not know the date but it is before 1967
p.s : El Shazly without mustache was more handsome.


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2012-13: Finished 18th at The Big One Invitational (11/3).
2011-12: Overall record: 19-53...NFC record: 15-19...finished 35th at The Big One (11/5)...went 9-3 in the "C" Pool at the New England Championship (2/25)...swept UMass, topped Wellesley 2-1, defeated both opponents from UNH, and picked up wins against Boston University, Sacred Heart, and Brandeis at the first NFC event of the season (11/19)...blanked Dartmouth and earned victories over Boston College and Smith at another NFC competition (1/28)...topped Hunter and Haverford at the Eric Sollee Invitational (2/4)...turned in a 2-1 performance versus Brandeis at the Beanpot (2/14).
2010-11: Placed 51st at The Big One (11/6).
Off the Fencing Strip at MIT: Majoring in computer science...completed a program manager internship at Microsoft and also worked at NBCUniversal...conducted research in the MIT Media Lab Personal Robots Group...co-president of Stop Our Silence...member of Roadkill Buffet, MIT's premiere improve troupe...participant in the Vagina Monologues.
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Icy winter storms with hurricane-force winds on Friday lashed northern Europe, where the death toll rose to 10, while hundreds of thousands suffered power blackouts and road, rail and air transport chaos.
The latest known victim was an elderly woman in north-central Sweden who was found dead in the snow outside her apartment, wearing only her dressing gown.
Also in Sweden, a man was killed by a falling tree on Friday, and two Philippine sailors who were swept off a Dutch-registered ship into freezing waters on Thursday remained unaccounted for, with the search called off.
Atlantic storm Xaver, having barreled across Britain, where two people died on Thursday, packed winds of up to 158kph as it lashed Germany, also battering the Netherlands, Poland and southern Scandinavia.
Across northern Europe, emergency services battled to evacuate flooded harbor areas, sandbag sodden dikes and repair damage from toppled trees that crashed onto houses, highways, train tracks and electricity lines.
Blackouts hit 400,000 households in Poland and affected 50,000 people in Sweden, and 4,000 homes in Germany, while thousands of air passengers were stranded as hundreds of flights were canceled at Amsterdam, Berlin, Hamburg, Gdansk and other airports.
The highest ocean swells in decades — whipped up by the strong winds and a large tidal surge — smashed into dikes in northern Germany and the Netherlands, which however reported no major breaches.
Three people were killed in Poland when a tree crashed down onto their car near the northern town of Lembork, firefighters' spokesman Bogdan Madej said.
"Three people died on the spot, another was taken to hospital," he said.
Despite the deaths and turmoil, affected countries breathed a sigh of relief on Friday that the damage was not worse — mindful of catastrophic floods that hit North Sea countries in 1953, when more than 2,000 people died.
Britain reported the worst tidal surge since that disaster, but Environment Agency spokesman Tim Connell told the BBC that "the defenses seemed to have held up well."
In northern Germany, the Elbe River harbor of Hamburg was under more than 6m of water — the second-highest level since records were first kept in 1825 — leaving only the tops of lamp posts sticking out of the freezing waters.
Also in Hamburg, a fallen tree derailed a suburban commuter train which then hit a bridge post. The fire brigade freed six passengers from the train, one with minor injuries.
In northern Schleswig-Holstein state, emergency services were called out more than 2,000 times, dealing with road and rail accidents that left four people injured, roofs ripped off houses and smashed windows.
In snowy Berlin, hefty winds brought down the 13m-tall Christmas tree outside the residence of German President Joachim Gauck.
Still, German authorities said the worst had been averted, compared with disasters such as severe floods in 1962 that left 340 people dead.
"Germany held its breath and looked at the dikes, and they withstood" the high seas, Schleswig-Holstein Minister of the Environment Robert Habeck said.
"We are much better prepared today" than in 1962, Christian Herold of the meteorological service said, with dikes higher and building design improved.
In Scandinavia, the Oeresund road and rail bridge between Sweden and Denmark was closed overnight, but reopened early on Friday as authorities scaled down the alert level from the maximum 3 to 2.


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How many species of grasses are there?
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Any plant of the family Gramineae, an important and widely distributed group of vascular plants, having an extraordinary range of adaptation. Numbering approximately 600 genera and 9,000 species, the grasses form the climax vegetation (see ecology) in great areas of low rainfall throughout the world: the prairies and plains of North America, the savannas and pampas of South America, the steppes and plains of Eurasia, and the veldt of Africa.
Most grasses are annual or perennial herbs with fibrous roots and, often, rhizomes. The stems are always noded and are typically hollow and swollen at the nodes, although many genera have solid stems. The leaves have two parts: a sheath surrounding the stem (called the culm in grasses); and a blade, usually flat and linear. The flowers are of a unique form, the inflorescence being subdivided into spikelets each containing one or more tiny florets. (In other flowering plants the inflorescences are clusters of separate flowers, never spikelets.) The dry seedlike fruit is called a caryopsis, or grain. Economically the grass family is of far greater importance than any other. The cereal grasses, e.g., wheat, rice, corn, oats, barley, and rye, provide the grain that is the staple food of most of mankind and the major type of feed. The grasses also include most of the hay and pasture plants, e.g., sorghum, timothy, bent grass, bluegrass, orchard grass, and fescue. Popularly the word grass is used chiefly for these latter and for the lawn grass types; it is also loosely applied to plants which are not true grasses (e.g., clover and alfalfa) but which are similarly grown. Molasses and sugar are products of sugarcane and sorghum, both grasses. Many liquors are made from grains and molasses. Plants of the grass family are also a source of industrial ethyl alcohol, corn starch and byproducts, newsprint and other types of paper, and numerous lesser items. Especially in the tropics, species of reed, bamboo (one of the few woody types), and other genera are used for thatching and construction. As food, grasses are as important for wildlife as for domesticated animals. They are able to survive grazing because their intercalary meristems are set back from the apex of the plant. Because of the tenacious nature of their large underground root system, grasses (e.g., beach grass) are often introduced to prevent erosion. Grasses are classified in the division Magnoliophyta, class Liliopsida, order Cyperales, family Gramineae. http://www.answers.com/grass?cat=technology


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Tech Fixes to Illegal Spying
NSA spying whistleblower Edward Snowden says that NSA agents as well as private contractors who work for the American security services can decide on their own to access any American's digital communications. Snowden said in a video interview that he could from Hawaii "wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president."
In a question and answer session today through the Guardian newspaper, Snowden said:
1) More detail on how direct NSA's accesses are is coming, but in general, the reality is this: if an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc analyst has access to query raw SIGINT databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want. Phone number, email, user id, cell phone handset id (IMEI), and so on – it's all the same. The restrictions against this are policy based, not technically based, and can change at any time. Additionally, audits are cursory, incomplete, and easily fooled by fake justifications. For at least GCHQ [the British equivalent of the NSA], the number of audited queries is only 5% of those performed.
2) NSA likes to use "domestic" as a weasel word here for a number of reasons. The reality is that due to the FISA Amendments Act and its section 702 authorities, Americans' communications are collected and viewed on a daily basis on the certification of an analyst rather than a warrant. They excuse this as "incidental" collection, but at the end of the day, someone at NSA still has the content of your communications. Even in the event of "warranted" intercept, it's important to understand the intelligence community doesn't always deal with what you would consider a "real" warrant like a Police department would have to, the "warrant" is more of a templated form they fill out and send to a reliable judge with a rubber stamp.
Glenn Greenwald follow up: When you say "someone at NSA still has the content of your communications" – what do you mean? Do you mean they have a record of it, or the actual content?
Both. If I target for example an email address, for example under FAA 702, and that email address sent something to you, Joe America, the analyst gets it. All of it. IPs, raw data, content, headers, attachments, everything. And it gets saved for a very long time – and can be extended further with waivers rather than warrants.
CNET confirms:
The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."
If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney and congressman who serves on the House Judiciary committee.
Not only does this disclosure shed more light on how the NSA's formidable eavesdropping apparatus works domestically, it also suggests the Justice Department has secretly interpreted federal surveillance law to permit thousands of low-ranking analysts to eavesdrop on phone calls.
Because the same legal standards that apply to phone calls also apply to e-mail messages, text messages, and instant messages, Nadler's disclosure indicates the NSA analysts could also access the contents of Internet communications without going before a court and seeking approval.
The disclosure appears to confirm some of the allegations made by Edward Snowden ….
Earlier reports have indicated that the NSA has the ability to record nearly all domestic and international phone calls — in case an analyst needed to access the recordings in the future. A Wired magazine article last year disclosed that the NSA has established "listening posts" that allow the agency to collect and sift through billions of phone calls through a massive new data center in Utah, "whether they originate within the country or overseas." That includes not just metadata, but also the contents of the communications.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the head of the Senate Intelligence committee, separately acknowledged this week that the agency's analysts have the ability to access the "content of a call."
Yesterday, top NSA whistleblowers confirmed Snowden's claims:
[USA Today]: Thomas Drake, you worked as a contractor for the NSA for about a decade before you went on staff there. Were you surprised that a 29-year-old contractor based in Hawaii was able to get access to the sort of information that he released?
Drake: It has nothing to do with being 29. It's just that we are in the Internet age and this is the digital age. So, so much of what we do both in private and in public goes across the Internet. Whether it's the public Internet or whether it's the dark side of the Internet today, it's all affected the same in terms of technology. …
One of the critical roles in the systems is the system administrator. Someone has to maintain it. Someone has to keep it running. Someone has to maintain the contracts.
Binney: Part of his job as the system administrator, he was to maintain the system. Keep the databases running. Keep the communications working. Keep the programs that were interrogating them operating. So that meant he was like a super-user. He could go on the network or go into any file or any system and change it or add to it or whatever, just to make sure — because he would be responsible to get it back up and running if, in fact, it failed.
So that meant he had access to go in and put anything. That's why he said, I think, "I can even target the president or a judge." If he knew their phone numbers or attributes, he could insert them into the target list which would be distributed worldwide. And then it would be collected, yeah, that's right. As a super-user, he could do that.
[USA Today]: As he said, he could tap the president's phone?
Binney: As a super-user and manager of data in the data system, yes, they could go in and change anything.
And the analysts' decision to tap your communications can go backwards … a long way. For example, NBC News reports:
NBC News has learned that under the post-9/11 Patriot Act, the government has been collecting records on every phone call made in the U.S.
Former FBI counter-terrorism agent Tim Clemente told CNN:
There's a way to look at digital communications in the past.
In other words, if an analyst wants to spy on you, he can pull up your communications since 9/11. (Remember, the private Internet Archive has been archiving web pages since the 1990s. So the NSA has undoubtedly been doing the same thing with digital communications).
The high-level NSA executive who largely created the NSA's electronic data-gathering system – William Binney, a 32-year NSA veteran with the title of senior technical director, who headed the agency's global digital data gathering program (featured in a New York Times documentary, and the source for much of what we know about NSA spying) – says that information gained through spying will be used to frame Americans that the government – or presumably anyone with the information – takes a dislike to:
Even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded. And the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude … to where it's getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong. You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody – even by a wrong call. And then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with. And attack you on that basis to sort to derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer.
Binney also says that there is a cheap and easy technological fix for the government's massive illegal spying program. Specifically, Binney says that he set up the NSA's system so that all of the information would automatically be encrypted, so that the government had to obtain a search warrant based upon probably cause before a particular suspect's communications could be decrypted.
But the NSA now collects all data in an unencrypted form, so that no probable cause is needed to view any citizen's information. He says that it is actually cheaper and easier to store the data in an encrypted format: so the government's current system is being done for political – not practical – purposes.
Binney's statements have been confirmed by other top NSA whistleblowers.
Yesterday, these top NSA whistleblowers again explained that it is technically simple to keep America safe … while protecting our Constitutional rights:
[USA Today]: Is there a way to collect this data that is consistent with the Fourth Amendment, the constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure?
Binney: Two basic principles you have to use. … One is what I call the two-degree principle. If you have a terrorist talking to somebody in the United States — that's the first degree away from the terrorist. And that could apply to any country in the world. And then the second degree would be who that person in the United States talked to. So that becomes your zone of suspicion.
And the other one (principle) is you watch all the jihadi sites on the Web and who's visiting those jihadi sites, who has an interest in the philosophy being expressed there. And then you add those to your zone of suspicion.
Everybody else is innocent — I mean, you know, of terrorism, anyway.
Wiebe: Until they're somehow connected to this activity.
Binney: You pull in all the contents involving (that) zone of suspicion and you throw all the rest of it away. You can keep the attributes of all the communicants in the other parts of the world, the rest of the 7 billion people, right? And you can then encrypt it so that nobody can interrogate that base randomly.
That's the way of preventing this kind of random access by a contractor or by the FBI or any other DHS (Department of Homeland Security) or any other department of government. They couldn't go in and find anybody. You couldn't target your next-door neighbor. If you went in with his attributes, they're encrypted. … So unless they are in the zone of suspicion, you won't see any content on anybody and you won't see any attributes in the clear. …
It's all within our capabilities.
Drake: It's been within our capabilities for well over 12 years.
Wiebe: Bill and I worked on a government contract for a contractor not too far from here. And when we showed him the concept of how this privacy mechanism that Bill just described to you — the two degrees, the encryption and hiding of identities of innocent people — he said, "Nobody cares about that." I said, "What do you mean?"
This man was in a position to know a lot of government people in the contracting and buying of capabilities. He said. "Nobody cares about that."
Drake: This (kind of surveillance) is all unnecessary. It is important to note that the very best of American ingenuity and inventiveness, creativity, had solved the major challenge problem the NSA faced: How do you make sense of vast amounts of data, provide the information you need to protect the nation, while also protecting the fundamental rights that are enshrined in the Constitution?
The government in secret decided — willfully and deliberately — that that was no longer necessary after 9/11. So they said, you know what, hey, for the sake of security we are going to draw that line way, way over. And if it means eroding the liberties and freedoms of Americans and others, hey, so be it because that's what's most important. But this was done without the knowledge of the American people.
Indeed, not only is gathering the communications of all Americans not necessary to protect us, it's actually counter-productive.
And yesterday, these top NSA whistleblowers explained to USA Today that an easy technical fix could also keep contractors away from Americans' confidential information that they're not entitled to view:
[USA Today]: Would it make a difference if contractors weren't used?
Wiebe: I don't think so. They are human beings. You know, look at what's going on with the IRS and the Tea Party. You know, there (are) human beings involved. We are all human beings — contractors, NSA government employees. We are all human beings. We undergo clearance checks, background investigations that are extensive and we are all colors, ages and religions. I mean this is part of the American fabric.
Binney: But when it comes to these data, the massive data information collecting on U.S. citizens and everything in the world they can, I guess the real problem comes with trust. That's really the issue. The government is asking for us to trust them.
It's not just the trust that you have to have in the government. It's the trust you have to have in the government employees, (that) they won't go in the database — they can see if their wife is cheating with the neighbor or something like that. You have to have all the trust of all the contractors who are parts of a contracting company who are looking at maybe other competitive bids or other competitors outside their — in their same area of business. And they might want to use that data for industrial intelligence gathering and use that against other companies in other countries even. So they can even go into a base and do some industrial espionage. So there is a lot of trust all around and the government, most importantly, the government has no way to check anything that those people are doing.
[USA Today]: So Snowden's ability to access information wasn't an exception?
Binney: And they didn't know he was doing (it). … That's the point, right? …They should be doing that automatically with code, so the instant when anyone goes into that base with a query that they are not supposed to be doing, they should be flagged immediately and denied access. And that could be done with code.
But the government is not doing that. So that's the greatest threat in this whole affair.


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Consider the name Lloyd A. Duncan, carved on the Oregon Vietnam Veterans Living Memorial.
I met Lloyd A. Duncan a week ago Saturday. He was chewing a cigar and looking at his name engraved on the black granite wall.
Lloyd Alvan Duncan, a 20-year-old combat medic from Albany, did, in fact, die in Vietnam in 1967.
But Lloyd Albert Duncan, drafted out of Astoria one year later, did not. That Lloyd A. Duncan, also served in Vietnam as a combat medic. He was wounded on May 17, 1969. Last Saturday, he stood on that hillside in the rain talking quietly with a young man he was mentoring.
As a drug and alcohol specialist, Lloyd Duncan has likely saved more lives in Portland than he ever saved in Vietnam.
We are here today at this memorial to honor the men and women who died serving the United States. This year, Oregon lost Matthew Lembke, Taylor Marks, Earl Warner, Michael Johnson, David Mudge, Elijah Rao, Joshua Lengstorf and Erin McLyman.
How do we honor their parents? What they have given? Matt Lembke was an all-conference football star in Tualatin who died after losing both legs in Afghanistan. Taylor Marks' funeral was in the same barn in Independence where he danced at his senior prom. How do you honor what they have given?
After four years of writing about impact of the wars on Oregon families, I have concluded, you start here. This memorial. This beautiful amphitheater is called the Oregon Vietnam Veterans Living Memorial to honor not just those who died, but the 57,000 Oregonians who served and came home. They have given us a path to follow. Vietnam veterans have transformed our nation's treatment of those serving in the military. They propelled the diagnosis, treatment and widespread understanding of post-traumatic stress. They have made us look at an amputee and see a paralympic athlete. They have alerted us to the risk of chemical exposure and of chemical addiction. They have proven that when a soldier goes to war, her family does, too.
They have given us, at an unimaginable personal cost, the gift of Vietnam.
More than 1,000 studies have been conducted on today's combat veterans, but everything we know for sure about PTSD is based on the Vietnam vet. Vets helping one another led to the creation of readjustment centers under a Veterans Affairs chief, a triple amputee named Max Cleland. Today, 30 years later, there are 299 Vet centers, where more 22,000 Iraq and Afghan vets get help.
The gift of Vietnam.
Linda Rotering was a young social worker in Vietnam, stationed at the 24th Evacuation Hospital at Long Binh and the U.S. Army Hospital Saigon. She took her unique experience and earned a master's degree and a doctorate. Today, as a readjustment therapist at the Portland Vet Center on Sandy Boulevard, she has treated vets from 11 different wars and military campaigns. I have met many of the people she has helped.
Linda told me, "I know what it's like to come home from living in a war zone and have a broken heart and a broken soul and a broken trust in humanity that no one can see, and I can't explain, nor do I want to try, nor does anyone ask. We think that avoidance of war memories will hide and heal them, but, it doesn't.
"Now I know that broken can be mended and that I can be with others and guide them to duct tape and staple and super glue the pieces back together. And, that it works."
It works. Ask William "Bud" Brown, a combat vet who drifted into a vet center in Vegas almost 30 years ago. Today, Dr. Brown teaches criminal justice at Western Oregon University. But he also ferociously tracks veterans who become homeless and those who break the law. He has launched a non-profit to build the first legal center for veterans in Washington state, and is co-founder of the Bunker Project, residential treatment center for veterans in Oregon.
"I have a responsibility to do something," Bud says. "Most of the veteran criminal cases I have seen were likely preventable if only someone had intervened or offered viable options -- and I am not talking about the 10-13 prescriptions they are given when diagnosed with PTSD."
Vietnam. I've heard it described as a war, a morass, a syndrome. Portland playwright and poet Roger Fuchs beautifully described what Vietnam meant to an entire generation of Americans, including me:
"For our parents in WWII, the whole country came together. Everyone knew what they were fighting for. But for us, the country came apart. World War II we won and Korea we forgot, but Vietnam we just never wanted to know. A whole generation of us have been torn apart by Vietnam -- whether we went or not."
Fuchs concludes that the power of the national memorial, The Wall, is that "it's for all of us. For the whole."
Follow this path, to the sixth alcove above this garden and you will see, the names of those still missing in action in southeast Asia. Because of Vietnam veterans, the federal government has committed to accounting for all Americans missing in action. Since 1973, the remains of 927 people have been found and brought home.
Ensign Eldon Wyman, a Grant High and University of Oregon standout was identified by DNA and returned to his family for full burial 67 years after he died on the USS Oklahoma at Pearl Harbor. I wrote about the funeral two years ago and the family that had waited for him nearly seven decades. I can tell you it gave them peace. For all of us, for the whole.
Last August, I paddled the Willamette River with 17 veterans blinded in Afghanistan or Iraq. They left me to run whitewater on the Deschutes River. Oregon has an amazing water sport program for disabled veterans, because of a Gresham river rat named Val Shaull, who served two tours as a combat engineer in Vietnam.
"When I got out of Vietnam, I tried a lot of different things to quell the demons," said Shaull, a retired Portland firefighter. "Getting away from crowds, being in nature, changes my attitude. I calm down and life is a whole lot better," he said. "I figured if it worked for me, it will work for other people.
"We live in the age of the anti-hero, cynical about any allegiance to duty, honor and country.
John Wheeler, a West Point graduate and one of the founders of The Wall, wrote in 1984 that "Learning from Vietnam will proceed only when our country can fully acknowledge the integrity of service and the embodiment of the cherished values represented in the soldiers sent to Vietnam."
Dennis Reynolds is an insurance broker, so straightforward and self-effacing that his closest friends did not know he served three tours as a Marine radio operator in Vietnam. But I kept running into Dennis, who has voluntarily stood in a flag line or organized a flag line at almost 400 Oregon veterans funerals and military homecomings as a Patriot Guard Rider.
Dennis told me, "When I'm holding the flag, and you see the tears, you see what it means to the families for us to be there. It's something you never forget." Dennis believes this simple act has helped the entire country acknowledge and appreciate those now serving.
Last Saturday, I met West Linn High students here cleaning these grounds for today's service. They'd been studying the Vietnam War, but they weren't too excited about it until Ron Cannon showed up at their history class. Ron works for the federal government finding and protecting veterans' jobs. He told the students about stepping on a land mine in Vietnam and losing his right leg. Then he took it off - and tossed it to Kaitlin Andrus.
"I caught it," she said, "It changed my whole view of the war, it was so personal. I thought, 'this really happened.' "
I know Ron, because the first time I met him, he tossed his leg at me, too. He did so to get an Iraq vet to get comfortable with his new artificial leg. The Iraq vet's prosethetic looked like a Star War's version. Ron's leg looks like it was from the War of 1812. And I can't help think that one was due to the other.
The gift of Vietnam.
Here's the path these vets have shown me. Be nice. Be nice to everyone. Talk to the press. Visit high school classes. Send a BlueStar mother a note, cross the airport to shake a soldier's hand, show up for parades, vote, work for peace.
After Dan Shea came home as a Marine in Vietnam and started a family, his son was born with a heart defect linked to Dan's Agent Orange exposure. Casey died of complications from it at 3.
Dan turned his grief into activism, started a drop-in care at a child center, organized a multi-cultural center at Portland State University and has lead many of Portland's peace and social justice activities since 9/11.
On this Memorial Day, consider the living memorial all around us.
Honor the sacrifice of Lloyd Alvan Duncan, who gave so much, and of Lloyd Albert Duncan, who has given so much since, from Vietnam.


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If the 49ers win the Super Bowl, 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver possibly will go to Disneyland. Win or lose, he'll be going back to school, too.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Culliver will receive sensitivity training in the wake of his grossly insensitive comments from media day regarding the possibility of having a gay teammate. Eventually, Culliver will do volunteer work with the Trevor Project, a group that provides crisis and suicide intervention for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender youths.
"He's so passionate about youth and people being comfortable with who they are and accepted by all," a P.R. representative for Culliver told the Associated Press. "He's excited to learn. The plan is with the Trevor Project, and their concerns are that he is genuine about his words. . . .
"It's just an opportunity for him to learn about his comments and educate himself about the LGBT community, and grow," the spokesman added. "It's the first step in learning about his words."
Actually, the first step came when Culliver faced a throng of media members who grilled him about the comments the day after they came to light. And plenty of steps will be needed before anyone believes he truly means what he's saying, now that the things he said got him in hot water.


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In case the other food diaries I've mentioned here on Smart Phone Healthcare haven't been your style, be sure to check out Healthy Food Guide.
Healthy Food Guide is based on the dietary recommendations that can be found at MyPlate.gov. While the app doesn't sync with an account on MyPlate.gov, if you try to go by those standards, it does implement those guidelines pretty well. Food can be added to breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks, which is pretty typical as far as food diaries go. However, unlike on other food diaries I've used (such as MyFitnessPal,) it doesn't break things down according to fat, carbs, protein, and sodium. Whenever a food is added, a graph changes, letting the user know how much more than can eat in a certain category that day (there are five sections – grains, vegetables, fruits, dairy, protien).
Below is a picture of the graph. It shows how many calories are left, as well as the percentages.
The app encourages users to try and eat "green" and "yellow" foods, and avoid the "red" foods, which is shown below for when the word "pizza" is searched. I think this is a good idea in essence, but I found that almost every food I added was "green." Which would be fine, if everything I was searching was healthy, but I couldn't find anything that wasn't a "green" food. Even things that are obviously unhealthy, like ice cream and french fries. It might just be a glitch in the system, but hopefully that will be fixed. I think it would be interesting to see the "yellow" foods especially.
Overall, this is a very simple food diary. It doesn't incorporate exercise, which may or may not be a plus for some people. For me, I like that. With food diaries I've used in the past, whenever I added exercise, it would give me additional calories. And I would end up thinking, "Oh, I have 300 extra calories. That means I can eat a big bowl of ice cream." Not probably the best idea.
It's very easy to set up an account, and I think the calorie goals are more accurate than other food diaries I have used. I have calculated my ideal caloric intake for weight loss using different calculations in the past, and this app has come the closest to matching that (unlike MyFitnessPal…which tried to convince me that 1200 calories was the way to go. No thank you.) The integration of the MyPlate standards are pretty interesting. It's a nice change to see what types of nutrients the foods I'm eating have, and if I'm getting enough (or too much…darn those grains!) of a certain section.
There are a few things that should be improved. First and foremost, the database really doesn't have the greatest selection. Something I love about MyFitnessPal is that it has seriously EVERYTHING. I mean, I typed in Costco samples before, and it had several entries for that. Quite often, I've found there to be foods from obscure restaurants I went to, which is cool. That isn't the case with Healthy Food Guide. It has foods from a few restaurants, as well as most common foods, but it definitely has room for improvement.
Also, even though I don't mind the absence of the exercise tracker, it may attract more users if that was implemented somehow. It might also be nice to have information regarding fat and sodium somewhere, just for those who do need to keep careful track of those factors. Incorporating social media might be nice as well, and the ability to add friends might be nice too, but obviously not a necessity for everyone.
All in all, it's a nice little app for those who want something simple. I like the emphasis on selecting the right choices, and not just aiming to stay under a certain calorie goal. The description in the Google Play Store basically says, you can eat six chocolate candy bars all day and stay under your calorie goal, but that doesn't mean it's helping toward a healthier lifestyle. It moves beyond the basic idea of calorie counting, and places more of an emphasis on healthy eating. The app still in it's early stages, so it cannot be expected to be perfect, but, it's free, and I think that's a cost anyone can afford just to try it out. It's exclusively available for Android devices and can be downloaded here.


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April Fools! Ten of the best pranks in sportBen Blackmore March 30, 2012
Have you ever had your dad burst through the front door, clutching a hand covered in red stuff (later to be revealed as tomato ketchup), claiming he's just had an accident with the hedge trimmer, only to yell "April Fools" as you go to dial 999?
Sunday brings the potential for mischief-making in the world of sports, with individual stars, clubs and the media all attempting to prove they possess the humour gene. Below are ten of the best sporting hoaxes from over the years...
Marathon Man
We've all heard of some ludicrous feats in the London Marathon over the years: there was the man who ran the entire race, touched the finishing line and then repeated the feat in the opposite direction; there was also the man who did the race in slow motion, "running" one step every five to six seconds in an effort that took an entire week.
In 1981 - the year of the inaugural London Marathon - the Daily Mail decided to formulate such a story of their own, producing a report about a Japanese runner who had been given misleading information about the length of the marathon. According to the paper, an inexperienced translator had told the runner the race lasted 26 days rather than 26 miles, and as a result he was still running three days after the race had finished.
Pascal Cygan's brother
Remember Pascal Cygan? He was one of those players who slipped into the blind spot that Arsene Wenger possesses when it comes to signing central defenders. Blessed with decent height, strength and a look not too dissimilar to Martin Skrtel at Liverpool, Cygan was not to be messed with... or at least that was the impression he gave when you judged the book by its cover.
More accurately he was a man simply not cut out for the Premier League, lacking co-ordination and always capable of a blunder. So imagine the disbelief among Arsenal fans when it was reported in 2004 that they would be signing Cygan's brother?
Still, they weren't the only ones duped that Easter period, with Eric Cantona supposedly signing for Yeovil while Jurgen Klinsmann moved to Swansea.
Spanish inquisition for Ronaldo
"Cristiano Ronaldo has agreed to 'act like a patriot' and be sold to neighbouring Spain for €160 million," reported the Independent. "While Ronaldo's fee ... barely dents the €12 billion Portugal owes, it is believed that the international bond markets will take it as a symbol of Portugal's determination to tackle the crisis, and respond accordingly."
In essence, the report was claiming that Portugal's financial crisis had got so bad that they had sold the international services of their best player to Spain. The paper even printed a picture of Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero shaking hands with Portugal's Prime Minister Jose Socrates.
And just to really go the whole nine yards, the report finished with: "Late last night, reports suggested that David Cameron was preparing a counter offer of £200m to persuade Ronaldo to play for England."
Fortunately we've got Stewart Downing.
Superhuman pitcher
One of the most notorious April Fools' creations in sporting history proved to be one of the most ridiculous stories ever believed.
In 1985 Sports Illustrated thought it would be funny to report that the New York Mets had signed a baseball pitcher called Sidd Finch. What was special about Sidd? He could throw a fastball at 168mph.
For those of you who do not know the scale of such of a claim, that would be around 60mph faster than any other player in history at that time. Not that such details stopped readers writing in to find out more on the new "superstar".
Maradona shocks the world... again
Imagine if Sunday's papers claimed Lionel Messi had signed for Spartak Moscow. Where would your paper end up? Promptly in the bin we would suspect.
However, such a story truly took off in 1988 when Diego Maradona - who had led Argentina to the World Cup two years previously, was said to have agreed a move to Russia. Soon picked up by one of the leading news agencies the story went global, largely due to the fact that the source, Soviet newspaper Izvestia, had never previously been linked to light-hearted banter.
Hahnemann flies team to Newcastle
United States goalkeeper Marcus Hahnemann is one of football's more interesting characters, if for no other reason that he harbours a superstition of wearing the same under-garment until his team loses.
So it was perhaps believable when a video emerged suggesting Hahnemann - the Wolves goalkeeper - would be piloting the flight that took Wanderers to their match at Newcastle. Team-mate Kevin Doyle was deadpan serious, others backed up the story, but it all came crashing down - literally - when the video finished with Hahnemann crashing a toy plane into a field.
Years later Wolves fans thought the club were playing a similar trick when they announced Terry Connor as manager.
I'll-judged prank
Everybody loves a film where the plot takes a late twist, and then for good measure twists again just to really keep the viewer guessing. This Orlando Magic prank did just that.
Half-time brought the chance for a lucky fan to net $100,000 if he could sink a shot from the halfway line, blindfolded. One chap stepped up and missed, but the crowd were instructed to roar - convincing him he had won the money.
Naturally, the man in the middle celebrated but then he revealed he had just been laid off from work - making everybody feel rather more uneasy about the joke they had played on him. He was then told it was an April Fools' Day prank, which he took gracefully despite obvious pain at the glory that had just been swept away from him.
However, then came that second twist as it was revealed the man was an actor all along, and that the real joke had been played on the crowd. Great scenes!
Rangers' mystery signing
Of all the wonderful title races ever witnessed in the SPL, the 2002-03 season must go down as one of the best. Rangers, locked on the same points as Celtic going into the final day, eventually claimed the SPL crown by a single goal in thrilling circumstances.
It was a memorable campaign for manager Alex McLeish, not only for the success but for an April Fools' prank played by the club on their official website. Rangers fans got excited when it was claimed £10 million had been spent on Greek striker Yardis Alpolfo of Galatasaray. Fans of word game Countdown will have already worked out Alpolfo was merely an anagram of April Fools Day.
Nowadays of course the joke is on Rangers, who would dearly love to be able to sign Alpolfo but cannot afford his wages.
World's Longest Anthem
In 2009 England fans across the country raced to get tickets for an international clash against Ukraine, believing the worst they would suffer was 90 minutes of watching Andriy Voronin attempt to play football.
The Sun had other ideas though, claiming on the morning of the match that Ukraine had requested to sing their full national anthem, lasting an "unparalleled" six-and-a-half minutes. Moreover, the report came with a warning that any fan who booed or sat down during the anthem would be ejected from the stadium.
Of course, the hoax largely misfired because we all know that the Greece national anthem has the most verses... don't we?
Martinez Martinez
For those who didn't see Roberto Martinez play football, he was a graceful player to watch. Much like his managerial style he always looked for the pass and, sitting at the base of a midfield, he attempted to control a game like a Pep Guardiola (although he wasn't as good).
Therefore, when Swansea reported that a mystery virus had struck down the squad ahead of their showdown with rivals Cardiff, it was suggested by the website that manager Martinez may have to rescue his boots from the attic. Aimed as a comical joke with the fans, it then backfired somewhat when Swansea's supporters genuinely began looking forward to seeing the old maestro in action.


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Could Ronnie Hillman's breakout game come in his homecoming game?
SAN DIEGO — Rookie running back Ronnie Hillman is expecting dozens of family and friends to make the drive to San Diego for tonight's Monday Night Football. He's also hoping the San Diego State fans here cheering for the Chargers will also greet him warmly as he makes his first appearance back at his former home stadium as a member of the Broncos.
Hillman rushed for 3,243 yards in two seasons at San Diego State.
"I've had some good games in that stadium," Hillman said Saturday. "It's going to be fun."
Indeed. Hillman had five, 100-yard games at Qualcomm last year, including a 224-yard game against Wyoming, and two different 4-touchdown games (against Washington State and Fresno State) here. He scored 13 games in this stadium in 2011.
He is still looking for his first NFL touchdown.


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Is Brad Pitt going to become the next actor, after Tom Hanks, to become completely synonymous with World War II? He's already put in one memorable performance on the war-torn European front, as the scalp-wielding Lt. Aldo Raine in Inglourious Basterds, and he's currently making his way back in Fury, another Word War II drama currently shooting in London. We thought the crew joining Pitt was already set in place, but THR has added one more name to the pile, reporting that Jason Isaacs will play a member of the five-man team of American soldiers who drive a tank over the front lines of battle.
Shia LaBeouf, Logan Lerman, Michael Pena and SCott Eastwood were already on board for the film, and a photo recently tweeted by director David Ayer seemed to confirm that that five-man tank crew was already in place:
So how does Isaacs fit in? THR says he will "play the confident captain and veteran on the team that Pitt's character looks to for advice," which definitely indicates some kind of key role. Maybe one of the younger guys only joins the team halfway through? Given that it's a war movie, it's not hard to imagine one member of the team biting the bullet early on-- and if this is a story about Pitt's character learning to step up and be a leader, that cannon fodder might be Isaacs himself. Not that Isaacs can't make an impact even with a tiny bit of screentime-- he spent years taking one or two scenes as Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter films and making them most of them, after all. Teaming up with Ayer, who made the kinetic End of Watch, ought to allow Isaacs to show a new side of his action chops-- even if my prediction turns out correct and he doesn't have a lot of screen time to do it with.


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