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Bucknell University: University Slams Door on Student Satires of Obama Stimulus Plan and Affirmative Action
Category: Free Speech
Schools: Bucknell University
Student rights are under assault at Bucknell University, where a conservative student group's protests against affirmative action policies and President Obama's stimulus plan have repeatedly been shut down or forbidden by administrators using flimsy or patently false excuses. After the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC) had three events censored in two months, including the distribution of "Obama Stimulus Dollars" and an affirmative action bake sale, the students turned to FIRE for help. The case is still ongoing.
FIRE Second Letter to Bucknell University President John Bravman
Response to FIRE from Bucknell General Counsel Wayne Bromfield
FIRE 2010 U.S. News Letter to Bucknell President Brian C. Mitchell
Bucknell's Response to FIRE's Fourth Letter
FIRE Fourth Letter to Bucknell University Administrators
Bucknell Policy on Sales and Promotions
Lenore Flower E-mail to FIRE
'Counterweight' Article on President's Resignation
Letters to the Editor of the 'Counterweight'
E-Mail from Wayne A. Bromfield, Bucknell General Counsel
BUCC Bake Sale Audio Recording
E-Mail from Judy Mickanis to Travis Eaione
Back of Obama Stimulus Dollar
Front of Obama Stimulus Dollar
Sales and Solicitation Policy
JOHN STOSSEL: Get Your Affirmative Action Cupcakes Here!
November 10, 2010
This week, I held a bake sale — a racist bake sale. I stood in midtown Manhattan shouting, "Cupcakes for sale." My price list read: Asians — $1.50 Whites — $1.00 Blacks/Latinos — 50 cents People stared. One yelled, "What is funny to you about people who are less privileged?" A black woman said, angrily, "It's very offensive, very demeaning!" One black man accused me of poisoning the cupcakes. I understand why people got angry. What I did was hurtful to some. My bake sale mimicked what some conservative college students did at Bucknell University. The students wanted to satirize […]» Read More
Bucknell should embrace free speech as Lehigh University does
October 20, 2009
It pains me to say it, but I owe Lehigh University an apology. You see, I went to Bucknell. We're rivals, you know. So as a proud member of the Bucknell family, I've considered it my job to make occasional fun of our nemesis in Bethlehem. When I was in school, I even owned a T-shirt that said: "Lehigh: Because not everyone can get into Bucknell." Sophomoric, I know. But then again, I was a sophomore. Now, I'm taking it back. I'm sorry, Lehigh. The reason is the First Amendment. The First Amendment protects our right to, among other things, […]» Read More
FIRE blames newspaper's ad refusal on school's 'culture of fear'
September 23, 2009
by Anne Elliot Student Press Law Center A free speech group blames "a culture of fear" at Bucknell University for the student newspaper's refusal to run an ad criticizing the university. Bucknellian Editor-in-Chief Lenore Flower informed the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) in early September that the paper would not be running the organization's ad because of libel concerns. Adam Kissel, director of FIRE's Individual Rights Defense Program, dismissed the editor-in-chief's claim that the ad was potentially libelous, saying its claims were clearly the opinion of his organization. "If third parties cannot even criticize the university in […]» Read More
BUCCing the Bucknell Liberals
September 9, 2009
The Bucknell University Conservatives Club, like so many other conservative clubs on America's campuses, has grown accustomed to its political minority status on campus and having to fight the good fight for equal treatment. Yet, Bucknell's administration has outdone itself in violating BUCC's freedom of speech over the past several months. Bucknell, a private university in Pennsylvania, promises free expression to its students. But it has flouted this commitment and bent its policies in order to shut down BUCC's affirmative action bake sale and a protest of President Obama's economic stimulus. The latest outrage began in March, when BUCC members […]» Read More
'A Crackdown on Free Speech at … Bucknell University?'
June 29, 2009
Check out FIRE Vice President Robert Shibley's latest column at Pajamas Media, where he takes on Bucknell University's suppression of a conservative student group. As Torch readers know, Bucknell has repeatedly defended its indefensible actions against the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC), but FIRE will keep the pressure on Bucknell until it lives up to its promises of freedom of speech to its students. And, as Robert points out, if Bucknell doesn't see the light, it will likely find itself part of our national campaign against "Red Alert" schools this fall. Bucknell does not want to be on that list. To […]» Read More
A crackdown on free speech at … Bucknell University?
June 27, 2009
By Robert Shibley at Pajamas Media Bucknell University, a well-regarded liberal arts institution set in a picturesque location in the rolling Pennsylvania countryside, looks entirely benign. Its campus is safe, its students intelligent. It counts among its alumni the famed author Philip Roth and Leslie Moonves, the president of CBS. It's a college to which most parents would be proud to send their kids. But if your son or daughter is the type who might join the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC), you would be well-advised to send him or her somewhere else. Because Bucknell really, really does not want to hear what the […]» Read More
Bucknell and the 'Affirmative-Action Bakesale'
June 23, 2009
By Ashby Jones at The Wall Street Journal Law Blog Oh to be back in college. The parties, all that time to stretch out with the world's great books, those absolutely mind-blowing affirmative-action bakesales. Yes, we jest – at least on the last point. Truth is, we've never experienced an "affirmative-action bakesale," though we understand that they've popped up on college and university campuses periodically over the last several years. The bakesales, typically put together by conservative student groups, attempt to make a political point about the alleged unfairness of affirmative action by charging different prices for cupcakes and other baked […]» Read More
Bucknell bake sale sparks First Amendment debate
June 23, 2009
By Susan Snyder at Philadelphia Inquirer Bake sales – typically the sweetest and most innocent of displays – again have become a flashpoint for strident political debate and free speech arguments on college campuses, this time at Bucknell University. The "affirmative-action bake sale," at which the Bucknell University Conservatives Club charged different prices depending on a customer's race, was shut down by the administration in April. But it didn't end there. Bucknell president Brian C. Mitchell has received about 100 letters, e-mails, and phone calls protesting the administration's response. A Philadelphia-based national free-speech group this month blasted the school in a […]» Read More
Bucknell University requires permit to hand out Bibles
June 11, 2009
Giving away Bibles on the campus of Bucknell University is at your own peril, since the school requires a permit for such an activity, according to a new dispute that arose involving the school's Conservatives Club. The organization has attempted to make several political statements on campus, and has been shut down by officials with the university repeatedly, said a complaint letter assembled by the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. The revelation of other permit demand for giving away Bibles came as part of an e-mail exchange over the dispute, in which school administrator Judy Mickanis told the leader […]» Read More
Affirmative Education
May 1, 2009» Read More
Power to the People
May 1, 2009» Read More
A 'Bake Sale' Protest at Aquinas College (Bucknell, Are You Listening?)
February 2, 2012
A perennial topic of consternation on college campuses is the "affirmative action bake sale" protest that groups opposed to affirmative action hold with some regularity on college campuses. If you don't recall or haven't heard of these protests, they take the form of bake sales where people of different ethnicities are charged different suggested amounts for baked goods, with whites and Asians paying the most and African-Americans and Native Americans paying the least. The different prices are meant to signify the advantage in college admissions that opponents of affirmative action argue such policies give to certain ethnicities. Probably the most […]» Read More
'Stossel' Show Exposes Censorship at Bucknell, Yale, and More
November 18, 2011
The most recent episode of Stossel on Fox Business Network, titled "Free Speech … and Its Enemies," featured interviews with FIRE Board of Directors Chairman Harvey Silverglate and Director of Legal and Public Advocacy Will Creeley discussing free speech on campus. Harvey described the evolving attacks on free speech whereby people are using terms like "harassment" and "bullying" to censor and punish speech they simply don't like. Will explained why Yale University appeared on FIRE's Huffington Post list of the "12 Worst Colleges for Free Speech" (there are many reasons) and how seven schools made it to FIRE's Huffington Post list of the […]» Read More
An Open Letter to Bucknell University's New President
November 11, 2010
Today, FIRE sent an open letter, reprinted below, to Bucknell University President John Bravman, asking him to vindicate student rights on Bucknell's campus. FIRE is nonpartisan, and we take no position on the issues that Bucknell University students wanted to freely discuss on campus, including President Obama's economic stimulus initiatives and affirmative action. We do, however, passionately and aggressively defend students' rights to engage in free expression on campus—especially regarding contentious national issues, and especially at schools that, like Bucknell, explicitly promise free speech to their students. Now that Bucknell is ceremonially inaugurating its new university president this weekend, we […]» Read More
John Stossel Discusses Bucknell's 'Affirmative Action Bake Sale' (and His Own) with Fox News' Megyn Kelly; Watch FIRE on 'Stossel' Tonight
November 11, 2010
John Stossel's "affirmative action bake sale," which I highlighted here yesterday, is continuing to make waves in advance of FIRE's appearance on his program this evening. If you haven't seen it yet, check out Stossel's visit with Fox News host Megyn Kelly, where he previews tonight's Stossel program with FIRE President Greg Lukianoff and students from FIRE cases at Bucknell University (Kirby Thomas), Tarrant County College (Clayton Smith), and Valdosta State University (Hayden Barnes). The seven-minute segment with Megyn Kelly on Fox's America Live covers Bucknell University's repeated violations of its own free speech promises when it shut down the "affirmative […]» Read More
Finally, a Positive Free Speech Story from Bucknell
October 11, 2010
Bucknell University has been under a lot of heat from FIRE recently for refusing to amend the speech policies it used to shut down three of the Bucknell University Conservative Club's events last year. Between August 31 and October 8, we wrote President John Bravman a letter urging him to amend Bucknell's restrictive speech codes, designated Bucknell as a "Red Alert" school for the second consecutive year, wrote four blog posts (here, here, here, and here) and distributed a press release about Bucknell's free speech abuses, criticized its policies on a local Pennsylania radio station, and erected our first-ever billboard warning […]» Read More
The 'Bucknellian' Publicizes FIRE's Electronic Billboard
October 8, 2010
As Torch readers know, FIRE's electronic billboard criticizing Bucknell University's poor free speech record has been out on Route 15 in Pennsylvania since September 20. The ad was placed in reaction to three separate occasions on which the university shut down the expression of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC), as well as Bucknell's policy preventing "affirmative action bake sale" protests and "gender wage gap bake sale" protests. Bucknell's student newspaper, The Bucknellian, caught wind of the public shame and blogged about it, noting our intention for the ad: Representatives of FIRE hope the new billboard advertisement will force the […]» Read More
FIRE'S Billboard Ad about Bucknell University on Route 15
September 23, 2010
As we mentioned in Monday's press release, FIRE purchased an electronic billboard ad criticizing Bucknell University's poor free speech record. Here it is, out in the wild, with a map to help you see it for yourself.» Read More
FIRE Places Billboard Criticizing Bucknell University's Free Speech Record
September 20, 2010
LEWISBURG, Pa., September 20, 2010—One of the main ways that universities maintain immoral and unconstitutional speech codes is to keep alumni and parents in the dark about rules that restrict student and faculty speech. That is why today the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) has purchased a billboard advertisement to publicize Bucknell University's poor record on free speech. Bucknell, which used two policies to shut down the expression of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC) on three separate occasions, is on FIRE's Red Alert list as one of the worst violators of free speech on campus. Two Bucknell […]» Read More
Red Alert at Bucknell University: Permission Needed to Promote a Cause
September 3, 2010
On Tuesday, FIRE announced our full-page advertisement in U.S. News & World Report's college rankings issue, alerting prospective students and their parents to consider avoiding the six schools on our Red Alert list. We warn people about Bucknell University, Michigan State University, Brandeis University, Colorado College, Johns Hopkins University, and Tufts University because they are the "worst of the worst" nationwide when it comes to meeting their free speech obligations. Bucknell is in the ad, which we place every year, for the first time this year—although it was added to the list almost a full year ago. We have given Bucknell plenty of chances to revise the policies it used to shut […]» Read More
Bucknell University Would Thwart AAUW 'Wage Gap' Bake Sales
July 1, 2010
AAUW (formerly known as the American Association of University Women) is a formidable nationwide entity with much to contribute to campus debate: For more than 128 years, AAUW members have examined and taken positions on the fundamental issues of the day-educational, social, economic, and political. Our commitment to our mission is reflected in all aspects of our work. AAUW boasts "more than 100,000 members and donors, 1,000 branches, and 500 college/university institution partners." In Pennsylvania alone, AAUW has partnerships with 29 colleges and universities—public and private, religious and secular. But AAUW has no official presence at Bucknell University, and I think it would get […]» Read More
Bucknell's General Counsel Abuses the Truth to an Exceptional Degree–Even for Him
June 10, 2010
Every year, FIRE places a full-color, full-page advertisement in the college rankings issue of U.S. News & World Report. The ad (here is 2009's) names the colleges and universities on FIRE's Red Alert list, our "worst of the worst" list of schools that have shown such severe and ongoing disregard for free speech that we warn students and faculty members to avoid them. This year, Bucknell University is scheduled to be included in the ad (along with Brandeis University, Colorado College, Johns Hopkins University, Michigan State University, and Tufts University). Bucknell deserves its ignominy because it (1) repeatedly shut down […]» Read More
In Which Bucknell's General Counsel Calls Me a Big Ole Liar
June 4, 2010
On January 18, 2010, I received a letter from Bucknell University General Counsel Wayne Bromfield that is undoubtedly the most personally insulting letter I have ever received in my time here at FIRE. We actually didn't respond at the time because when someone sends you a letter like this, you can be sure that he or she is no longer acting in good faith. But as we get closer to the time when we will highlight Bucknell as a Red Alert school in our annual full-page advertisement in U.S. News & World Report's college rankings issue—Red Alert schools are the "worst of the worst" […]» Read More
Still Looking for a New Year's Resolution, Red Alert Schools?
January 14, 2010
Here's an easy New Year's resolution that Brandeis University, Bucknell University, Colorado College, Johns Hopkins University, Michigan State University, and Tufts University can make: get off of FIRE's Red Alert list of America's worst violators of campus liberty! This week, FIRE sent the presidents of each of the six Red Alert schools a letter reminding them of their schools' serious and ongoing violations of student and faculty rights, and just how easy it is for each of them to remedy their mistakes and reaffirm their commitment to freedom of expression. FIRE also included with each letter a copy of the […]» Read More
Bucknell Alumnus Prefers Rival Lehigh on Free Speech
October 20, 2009
Bucknell University alumnus Charles Mitchell has a strong piece in today's Morning Call (Allentown, PA) regarding the administration's wrongheaded censorship of political activity by the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC). Because of Bucknell's actions, the school is on FIRE's Red Alert list, which warns students to think twice before applying for admission to Bucknell if they value free speech. Mitchell, who also is a trustee of the Alliance for a Better Bucknell, concludes that despite a healthy rivalry between his alma mater and Lehigh University, Lehigh is the winner when it comes to free speech: [I read in] Lehigh's student […]» Read More
Do Bucknell Administrators Believe in Free Speech or Not?
September 28, 2009
After mid-level administrators shut down or censored several of the activities of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC), FIRE placed Bucknell on our Red Alert list as one of the "worst of the worst" for protecting liberty on campus. After months of administrative recalcitrance, however, a letter published in the August 27 issue of The Counterweight (a newspaper published by BUCC) offers hope for a quick resolution. Bucknell undergraduate Scott Teagarden, in his letter responding to a previous Counterweight article about the shutdown of BUCC's satirical "affirmative action bake sale," writes: The article reads, "If the Administration had its way, of course, […]» Read More
Rejected FIRE Ad at Bucknell Reported by Student Press Law Center
September 23, 2009
The Student Press Law Center (SPLC) has reported on The Bucknellian's rejection of FIRE's advertisement critical of Bucknell University and some of its administrators. The student newspaper rejected the ad, citing a worry that it "crosses a line that could lead to legality issues for the Bucknellian" because it "might be construed as libel." The ad named Associate Dean of Students Gerald Commerford as the primary malefactor against student rights at Bucknell. As FIRE has noted for several months, for instance in a May 21 letter to Bucknell's president regarding Commerford's actions, The Bucknellian previously reported on Dean Commerford's actions to shut down and later […]» Read More
FIRE blames newspaper's ad refusal on school's 'culture of fear'
September 23, 2009
by Anne Elliot Student Press Law Center A free speech group blames "a culture of fear" at Bucknell University for the student newspaper's refusal to run an ad criticizing the university. Bucknellian Editor-in-Chief Lenore Flower informed the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) in early September that the paper would not be running the organization's ad because of libel concerns. Adam Kissel, director of FIRE's Individual Rights Defense Program, dismissed the editor-in-chief's claim that the ad was potentially libelous, saying its claims were clearly the opinion of his organization. "If third parties cannot even criticize the university in […]» Read More
How Can Bucknell University Get Off FIRE's Red Alert List?
September 21, 2009
Having posed this question regarding Brandeis University, Colorado College, Johns Hopkins University, Michigan State University, and Tufts University—the other five schools on FIRE's Red Alert List—we today turn to the newest member of the list, Bucknell University. Today's press release—and its spot on the list—was earned by its continuous and unrepentant censorship of the activities of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC). Bucknell's troubles started in March when Bucknell administrator Judith Mickanis prevented BUCC from distributing "Obama stimulus dollars," which bore an image of President Obama on the front and read "Obama's stimulus plan makes your money as worthless as monopoly […]» Read More
Red Alert: Bucknell University Hardens Policy Used to Shut Down Student Protests; Student Newspaper Rejects FIRE Ad
September 21, 2009
LEWISBURG, Pa., September 21, 2009—A culture of fear appears to be chilling expression at Bucknell University, where even the student newspaper fears a libel lawsuit from Associate Dean of Students Gerald W. Commerford if it were to print a critical advertisement from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE). After Bucknell administrators misapplied and abused Bucknell's Sales and Solicitation and nondiscrimination policies last semester to shut down the Bucknell University Conservatives Club's (BUCC's) protests of affirmative action and President Obama's economic stimulus, the group turned to FIRE for help. Bucknell has expanded and hardened the language in its policies […]» Read More
Bucknell Revises 'Solicitation' Policy after Administrators Use It Repeatedly to Shut Down Student Speech
September 18, 2009
Bucknell University has quietly revised its "Sales and Solicitation" policy after administrators badly misinterpreted it last semester in order to shut down student speech at least twice. Last semester, members of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC) stood at Bucknell's student center and passed out fake dollar bills with President Obama's face on the front and the sentence "Obama's stimulus plan makes your money as worthless as monopoly money" on the back. Bucknell administrator Judith L. Mickanis came along, however, and told the students that they were "soliciting" without prior approval. Although the Sales and Solicitation policy explicitly covered only […]» Read More
Bucknell's Oppression of Free Speech in Today's Issue of 'Human Events'
September 9, 2009
When will Bucknell University realize that trying to suppress free speech is one of the best ways to help the speakers get their message out? Human Events is the latest publication to shine the light of shame on Bucknell's frequent actions to shut down the expression of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC). The article, coauthored by FIRE Program Officer Peter Bonilla and BUCC President Travis Eaione, describes how Bucknell administrators flouted the university's commitment to free speech and bent its policies out of shape in order to shut down BUCC's satirical "affirmative action bake sale" and BUCC's distribution of […]» Read More
'Counterweight' Article "Racial Fires"
August 27, 2009» Read More
'U.S. News' Readers: FIRE's Red Alert List Exposes the Worst Violators of Campus Rights
August 25, 2009
The Story Behind FIRE's U.S. News & World Report Ad… Why does FIRE's ad in U.S. News & World Report show a book padlocked shut? One of FIRE's most shocking cases was that of Keith John Sampson, a student-employee at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) who was found guilty of racial harassment for merely reading the book Notre Dame vs. the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan during his work breaks. Thanks to FIRE's involvement and extensive media coverage, the finding against Sampson was overturned and his school record was cleared. Such stories of censorship are […]» Read More
Bucknell University Joins Worst Offenders Against Liberty on FIRE's Red Alert List
August 25, 2009
Thanks to its continuous distortions and abuses of its own policies on free expression to suppress political speech, Bucknell University has earned the dubious honor of being placed on FIRE's Red Alert list. Institutions on the Red Alert list are unrepentant offenders against basic rights that are guaranteed either by the U.S. Constitution or the schools themselves, and they have policies and/or practices that demonstrate a serious and ongoing threat to current and future students. They are the "worst of the worst" when it comes to protecting liberty on campus. Though repeated letters from FIRE, backed up with documentary evidence, […]» Read More
FIRE Releases Video about Bucknell Case
August 12, 2009
Check out FIRE's newest video, which comes straight from one of the students embroiled in the ongoing fight for free speech at Bucknell University. Watch as Bucknell University Conservatives Club President Travis Eaione recounts how the Bucknell administration censored his student group on three separate occasions as the group tried to peacefully protest affirmative action policies and President Obama's stimulus plan. You'll be shocked at how Bucknell is blatantly betraying the ideal of free speech using phony and patently false excuses. Help FIRE restore free speech and open debate to Bucknell: Listen to Travis' story, demand that Bucknell's president restore […]» Read More
'A Crackdown on Free Speech at … Bucknell University?'
June 29, 2009
Check out FIRE Vice President Robert Shibley's latest column at Pajamas Media, where he takes on Bucknell University's suppression of a conservative student group. As Torch readers know, Bucknell has repeatedly defended its indefensible actions against the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC), but FIRE will keep the pressure on Bucknell until it lives up to its promises of freedom of speech to its students. And, as Robert points out, if Bucknell doesn't see the light, it will likely find itself part of our national campaign against "Red Alert" schools this fall. Bucknell does not want to be on that list. To […]» Read More
Bucknell University Lies Again
June 25, 2009
Maybe someone is feeding false information to Bucknell University General Counsel Wayne A. Bromfield, because his latest response to Bucknell's free speech meltdown repeats the lies we already have heard from him and Bucknell. The truth is, Bucknell shut down a student group's protests against President Obama's stimulus plan and against affirmative action policies, using inapplicable university policies as pretexts. The distribution of "Obama stimulus dollars" by the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC) was shut down under an inapplicable solicitation policy, and the administrator who shut it down gleefully said that the students were "busted." (Here's the evidence.) Later, the […]» Read More
Bucknell President Resigns Effective June 2010
June 24, 2009
Maybe it's related, maybe not. But we know that just one day after the national media picked up Bucknell University's pattern of mistreatment of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club, Bucknell President Brian Mitchell announced his resignation. Bucknell had shut down the group's protests against President Obama's stimulus plan and against affirmative action policies, using inapplicable university policies as pretexts. After FIRE publicized the case, Bucknell responded with false and misleading information about what actually happened, contradicting the audio, video, and other documentary evidence of the case. Yesterday, the Philadelphia Inquirer, Associated Press, and Wall Street Journal Law Blog reported on […]» Read More
AP and 'Wall Street Journal' Pick Up on Bucknell's Violation of Conservative Students' Rights
June 23, 2009
The Associated Press has picked up Susan Snyder's excellent Philadelphia Inquirer reporting on Bucknell University's pattern of shutting down events run by the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC). As FIRE's press release points out, Bucknell not only shut down BUCC's satirical affirmative action bake sale but also refused to let BUCC hold any such sale in the future, falsely citing Bucknell's nondiscrimination policy when administrators had to come up with some kind of pretext. Earlier, Bucknell had shut down BUCC's distribution of "Obama stimulus dollars" in protest of President Obama's stimulus plan, in that instance falsely citing the university's solicitation […]» Read More
'Philadelphia Inquirer' on Bucknell Bake Sale Fiasco
June 23, 2009
The top story in the local section of today's Philadelphia Inquirer print edition explores Bucknell University's decision to bar a conservative student group from hosting an affirmative action bake sale on campus. FIRE first wrote to Bucknell on May 21 and issued a press release condemning the school's actions on June 11 after having received no response from the school. As today's Inquirer story explains, Bucknell's hostility to core political speech involves more than just the shutting down of the bake sale event: In March, the club complained that the administration shut down another of its activities – passing out […]» Read More
Bucknell Alumni on Bucknell
June 17, 2009
The word is getting out to Bucknell University alumni that their alma mater has taken a strong stand against free expression on campus—and so far, they don't seem too pleased. Alumni group The Alliance for a Better Bucknell issued a statement calling on Bucknell President Brian Mitchell, "in the strongest possible terms, to immediately condemn the recent censorship and proclaim publicly that no one will ever be treated this way again at Bucknell for expressing social or political views." Indoctrinate U filmmaker Evan Coyne Maloney, another Bucknell alumnus, has also condemned Bucknell for its vendetta against the Bucknell University Conservatives […]» Read More
Bucknell to Student Conservatives, Liberty: Drop Dead
June 11, 2009
Wow, that was fast! Today's press release about Bucknell's lamentable ongoing crusade to squelch the expression of the students of the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC) has shaken a formal response loose in record time—probably less than two hours. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the university did even two minutes' worth of thinking about the evidence and our arguments, despite the fact that it has been sitting on FIRE's letter since May 21. In fact, I can't even figure out how Bucknell General Counsel Wayne A. Bromfield could sit down, read our letter, and produce a presumably straight-faced response that […]» Read More
Bucknell University Slams Door on Bibles, Student Satires of Obama Stimulus Plan, Affirmative Action
June 11, 2009
It still amazes me that university administrators come up with such flimsy excuses—sometimes even making up rules out of nowhere, on the spot—for interfering with students' freedom of speech on campus. I reported in April that Bucknell University had shut down a satirical "affirmative action bake sale" on a pretext. On further investigation, FIRE found a pattern of violations of the speech rights that Bucknell's own policy promises to students. Indeed, as today's press release details, student rights are under serious assault at Bucknell, where not only the bake sale but also criticism of President Obama's stimulus plan have repeatedly […]» Read More
Bucknell University Slams Door on Student Satires of Obama Stimulus Plan, Affirmative Action
June 11, 2009
LEWISBURG, Pa., June 11, 2009—Student rights are under assault at Bucknell University, where a conservative student group's protests against affirmative action policies and President Obama's stimulus plan have repeatedly been shut down or forbidden by administrators using flimsy or patently false excuses. After the Bucknell University Conservatives Club (BUCC) had three events censored in two months, the students turned to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) for help. "Bucknell promises free speech, but it delivers selective censorship," said FIRE President Greg Lukianoff. "Bucknell administrators have gone out of their way to abuse and even invent policies in attempts […]» Read More
Affirmative Education
May 1, 2009» Read More
Power to the People
May 1, 2009» Read More
BUCC donut sale rejected by administration
April 24, 2009» Read More
Event Blockade
April 1, 2009» Read More


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Is there a club company out there generating more attention these days than Anytime Fitness?
It helps when the CEO of the company, in this case Chuck Runyon, is out front leading the charge. Not only is Runyon still busy promoting his new book "Working Out Sucks"—which we first told you about here—but in a few weeks, he'll be a TV star for a day—which we also first told you about on this blog.
Runyon and Anytime Fitness co-founder Dave Mortensen will appear on ABC's "Secret Millionaire" on June 10 (8 p.m. Eastern, 7 Central). According to an Anytime Fitness press release out this week, Runyon and Mortensen taped the episode last summer in Oklahoma City. They were dropped off in a poverty-stricken neighborhood with only $75 between the two of them to spend for an entire week. They had no communication with family, friends or the office. How did they do it? Tune in to find out.
The TV show isn't even the biggest news this month for the Hastings, MN-based company. Last week, Radley West, a co-owner of an Anytime club in South Carolina, donated a kidney to one of her members.
You may notice when you click on that story and see a photo of West that she has the Anytime Fitness Running Man logo tattoo on her arm. Several Anytime owners have one, too, including Runyon, who discussed his company's brand loyalty in a column this week. We gave the tattoos some ink here a couple of years ago.
In addition to generating media coverage, is there another club company that generates more brand loyalty—and permanent loyalty at that—than Anytime? Other than seeing Apple stickers on the backs of cars, I can't come up with a comparable example. Any others come to mind?
Anytime Fitness also tends to pop up on several top franchise lists. Within the past year, it was recognized by Forbes, Entrepreneur and CNN Money. It also has been recognized as a top franchise company for minorities, for Hispanics and by the military. In July, Anytime will once again appear on another list—our Top 100 Clubs list.
So all in all, it's been a pretty good week for Anytime Fitness. And month. And year.


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The gates at the castle open up 75 minutes before showtime. The line to get in moves quickly. As you get inside, you get your table card, your crown that designates the color of the knight you'll be cheering for, and take a group picture. We got ours taken with a live falcon! The kids were so impressed.
It's fun to get there early and check out the stables where the horses are getting ready for the show. There is also a knighting ceremony in the main lobby where you can pay to add this unique event to your experience. We got to see Peter and Paul be knighted! #ChivalryinAction
We were assigned the red knight. When it's time to be seated, you are led through specific doors to find your table. I don't think there is a bad seat in the house. With stadium seating, every view is unobstructed.
Our waiter greeted us and instructed us on cheering for our knight. As he was giving us final instructions, he told us all to raise our hands. He informed us that our right hand was our fork, and our left was our knife. He encouraged us not to drop them on the floor because they were the only pair we'd receive! Ha!
The show begins with the performance by the Andalusian horses. They are so beautiful. It is quite incredible to watch these magnificent horses show off, and it's obvious that they love to perform.
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The Santorum supporter comments on the culture wars over contraception use saying, "Back in my days, they [woman] used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives."
Foster Friess -- a prominent Santorum supporter and one of the chief benefactors of a pro-Santorum Super PAC -- today made a statement on contraception that's already raising plenty of eyebrows.
Friess told NBC's Andrea Mitchell on "Andrea Mitchell Reports":
This contraceptive thing, my gosh, it's so inexpensive. Back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn't that costly.
The obvious suggestion by Friess: that women should put an aspirin between their legs so they don't open them.


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Last Saturday's torturous run into Montalcino will undoubtedly go down as one of the most memorable moments of the Giro d'Italia, with shattered riders crossing the line looking more as if they had just finished Paris-Roubaix, not a stage of a grand tour: minutes were gained and lost, spirits were broken, heroes were made.
But for many Giro d'Italia watchers, stage 7 also harkened back to another brutally unforgiving day 22 years ago – when Andy Hampsten left behind all but one of his competitors ascending a snowy and freezing-cold Passo di Gavia, bravely descended the other side, and then went on to become the first and only American to win Italy's greatest bicycle race.
Hampsten's steed back then was a prototypical road racer of the late '80s with a lugged steel frame and fork, a 1in threaded steerer and shifters that were mounted on the down tube, not conveniently integrated into the brake levers. But the characteristics he sought from his machine back then aren't far off what racers demand today.
Though it wore the red, green and white livery and labels of official team sponsors Huffy, Hampsten's bike was actually a custom made rig crafted to his specifications by famed US builder John Slawta of Land Shark after a team-issued frame broke beneath him earlier that spring at Fleche-Wallone. That failure was eventually sourced back to an errant shipment by the builder's tubing supplier but still, Hampsten says his confidence was shaken and he wanted to go with something tried and true.
"I felt bad about not using a Serotta [the company that actually built the team 'Huffys'] and sticking with the team suppliers," Hampsten told us. "It wasn't Serotta's fault. But I was in a period of my life when I didn't like crashing due to mystery bike failures, so I went with the sure ride I knew Land Shark would build for me."
"John gave me a deal on it and the 7-Eleven team were nice enough to let me buy a frame for myself," Hampsten continued. "He made bikes earlier for my Levi's Raleigh team and I knew he would do a great job."
True Temper was once the 'must have' tubing for steel bikes
Hampsten's racing experience at that point taught him to seek out a frame that was light – but not too light – and handled with the stability and predictability needed to not only ascend the highest peaks but also get down them safely and quickly.
"I asked John to build it light for the mountains but it needed to put up with some bad roads," Hampsten said. "It was light but I know John was fairly conservative about going too light. His geometry is perfect; I never felt it wouldn't get me out of the way when I was going around or through a crash, yet on the bad road conditions we experienced it was never unstable."
"The year after '88 we had Eddy Merckx as our bike supplier," he continued. "He is the master at fitting bikes to riders and taught us not to get hung up on light bikes. Why save seconds on a climb and lose minutes on a descent? Slawta certainly has an old world style of making bikes that go up and downhill properly."
Hampsten's build kit featured box-section Wolber aluminium tubular rims and tyres, a deep-drop aluminium handlebar, XA forged alloy stem, Volare saddle and cork tape from Cinelli, and a Shimano Dura-Ace group complete with down tube shifters and forged alloy seatpost.
Shimano's top-end Dura-Ace crankarms once wore a spartan, blocky form
Some of the original parts have gone in separate directions from the rest of the bike, including the Look-style Dura-Ace clipless pedals and the then-prototype eight-speed cassette and rear wheel (all of which, "went to a junior racer with another bike in '89. Who knew bike parts would keep changing?").
Hampsten says his local shop, University Bicycles in Boulder, Colorado (where the bike is now on display among an impressive collection of vintage gear) has otherwise done an excellent job of restoring and caring for the bike, and aside from a non-spec chain, it's just as he raced it in Italy in '88, fit and all. Total weight as pictured here without pedals is 8.93kg (19.69lb) – heavy by today's standards but typical for its time.
Hampsten tells us he hasn't ridden the bike in years but by his account its handling characteristics and overall feel aren't far off what he prefers now – though the fit has shortened by nearly 2cm in both reach and saddle height on account of his now more relaxed demeanour on the bike.
Cinelli's XA stem was among the most sought-after of its day
"I haven't ridden one of my old race bikes for a long time, but I don't think they handle any different than what I enjoyed when I was racing," he said. "Now that I'm a dedicated cafe 'tourerererer' my demands are less on the speed of the bike than they are feeling good on my ride.
"So I want a bike that's light and handles extremely well on descents and switchbacks, especially if I'm trying to race rain showers. I want to finish my rides without my body hurting and have the energy to ride more if my (imagined) schedule would allow it. As it happens, what I demand from my bike now is exactly how Eddy designed bikes; make a comfortable ride that lets a racer feel great and full of energy at the end of the race."
Despite offers from collectors, Hampsten says he'll never sell the bike as it holds too dear a place in his heart and too many fond memories. "[That bike] is what carried me through the defining moment of my career as a bike racer," he said. "I never thought I'd face crazy weather on the crucial stage of what is the biggest race I ever won, so I never prepared for that mentally.
"I dreamed of being a bike racer for most of my life, and I dealt with winter six months of the year when I was young. So when my moment was met with snow on the Gavia pass I got far enough past my fears to accept that I was in for a hard time, but it was going to be my hard time. I might have been better at being a bike racer than winning bike races, and on this bike I went farther past the 'can't dos' in my mind than I have ever imagined possible. On the Gavia I was never, never, never going to give up."
The slim (by modern standards) chainstays gracefully taper from end to end


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Aloha lovies!
I hope you all will be tuned in to watch me on "Oprah's Favorite Things 2012," this Sunday at 8 pm EST on OWN. It's a 2 hr special filled with lots of intimate moments. It'll be a tear jerker for sure so please make sure you watch. A few lucky viewers will also have the chance to win ALL the fabulous gifts we received but you must be watching the show for details on when and how you can be entered to win.
For more details, go to www.oprah.com. Don't forget to switch over to my new site: www.itskerrysworld.com for more fun and exciting things coming up for my family and I. I'd love to see you all there. :)
Happy Friday and have a lovely weekend.


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Court Says Employees Have No Expectation Of Privacy For Stuff On Company Owned Computers
from the well,-duh dept
So, then the legal question was whether or not the guy had a "reasonable expectation of privacy" for stuff stored on that laptop, especially in a password protected file. The court ruled no, that an employee does not have a reasonable expectation for privacy, and that, effectively, anything on the computer is fair game for the employer (even if it's password protected).
You can understand the reasoning there, as it makes sense that a company should feel free to go through the contents of a computer it owns. However, it does raise some other questions. Earlier this summer, we wrote about another case in which a company continued to read the personal email of a fired employee, because he had left his personal online email account logged in from the company-owned laptop. While that seems different, is it really that big a leap from data stored on the local hard drive, to data stored on a remote hard drive, accessed via a web browser? It does, however, start to become a much trickier question, especially as more data and apps move from the local laptop into the "cloud" and as work and life boundaries blur.


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A former Marine, Brandon Raub, was recently detained because of posts made on his Facebook account referencing a coming "civil war," saying he was "done waiting," and quoting a rap lyric, "Sharpen up my axe, I'm here to sever heads."
Raub was taken into custody in this week in Virginia after being questioned by FBI and Secret Service agents. The latest is that after a hearing, Raub had been ordered held for an additional 30 days in a psychiatric ward.
For background, you can read the news story on HuffPo and find the essential facts and Mike Masnick's commentary on TechDirt.
I actually have some experience with the legal procedures involved in detaining persons for psychiatric reasons. One summer in law school, I had a short externship with the Mental Hygiene Legal Service in the basement of the Manhattan Psychiatric Center on Wards Island in New York. (And let me say that it was an incredible experience, and I found that the attorneys down there providing legal services to patients were some of the quickest, smartest, and most impressive attorneys I have every worked with.)
So let me offer something from a mental-health-law perspective.
The Raub case has people concerned that online posts espousing conspiracy theories and radical leanings can cause a person to be locked up. And, in a sense, that's what happened here. But once a person gets into the mental health system, it generally becomes a matter for physicians. Physicians aren't legally able to deprive someone of their freedom, at least not beyond emergency circumstances on a short-term basis. Persons suspected of being mentally incompetent and dangerous are entitled to due process.
The due process that patients get is usually get that in the form of a hearing in which a judge listens to testimony of one or more physicians opining as to the psychiatric state of the patient. You might be surprised how smoothly this goes for the state. This is not like a trial. There is no jury, and the evidentiary standards are very relaxed. The state can use hearsay evidence to commit someone involuntarily, since they get it in as the basis for the psychiatrist's expert opinion.
The whole field of mental health commitment is a fascinating one legally, and it raise a host of due process concerns that should make just about everyone uncomfortable. That's not to say that the system is bad – like so much under our system of law, it reflects a balance between the need to uphold rights and freedoms and the need to prevent violence. It's just to say that, like much else in law, it ought to make one uncomfortable.
So, with that background, I'm guessing that the Raub case is more about physicians deciding Raub needs to be held rather than it is about the government taking action against anti-government speech. Now, I should note that the story of physicians have tremendous power, mediated through court process, to deprive people of their freedom is not a new story – but it is a compelling one.
Yet because it brings mental-health law to bear on blogging, the Raub case remains one worth watching. There is no doubt that there is power here that could be abused. Maybe Raub is a radical whose speech is being shut down in violation of principles of free expression. Maybe he needs medical treatment. Of course, it's very possible both are true at the same time.


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A BMW Electric Car for the Price of a Chevy?
BMW said it will begin selling its i3 electric car in the U.S. next year for a starting price of $41,350 –- within range of the Chevrolet Volt. Jonathan Welsh discusses if consumers will buy a hybrid from a luxury brand at that price. Photo: BMW.
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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. -- The MIT men's tennis team, ranked 22nd in the ITA's latest national poll, had little difficulty in upending Salem State University after suffering their second loss of the year. The Engineers blanked the Vikings 9-0 on Tuesday afternoon at JB Carr Tennis Bubble.
Troy Astorino and Robert Wheeler won 8-1 at second doubles and were perfect in singles play. Astorino beat Kristian Biedyl 6-0, 6-0 at fifth singles while Wheeler defeated Joe Kim 8-0 in a pro-set at sixth singles. Ken Van Tilburg and Matthew Skalak beat Shawn Dowen and Alex Eisath 8-4 at first doubles.
Eisath also fell 6-1, 6-1 to Edwin Zhang at first singles while Curtis Wu defeated Eglis Bizhoti 6-1, 6-2 in the second singles match.
With the win, the Engineers bounced back from being on the wrong side of a 9-0 score on Saturday, when they were swept by the Amerst Lord Jeffs. All three doubles matches were close, but Joey Fritz and Justin Reindel edged Larry Pang and Curtis Wu at No. 2, 9-7. Fritz and Reindel had little trouble in singles play, as Fritz earned a 6-3, 6-0 win over Brian Oldfield at No. 3 and Reindel defeated Matthew Skalak at No. 4, 6-1, 6-2.
MIT is now 5-1 on the spring season and 5-2 overall. They will begin their New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference schedule on Saturday when they host Coast Guard Academy at 1:00 PM. The Vikings fall to 0-2 on the season and will play at Endicott on Thursday at 3:30 PM.


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by Mike Masnick
Fri, Mar 11th 2011 4:08am
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blocking, copyright, france, secondary liability
The latest in confused secondary liability rulings comes from France, where Google has lost a lawsuit and been fined for copyright infringement, because of links and an uploaded video of a movie from producers Mondovino. Apparently, Mondovino wanted Google to block links to the unauthorized version and was upset to find that someone had uploaded the video to Google Video. Of course, Google has a well known takedown procedure that is supposed to protect it from liability. For that reason, the company appears to be planning to appeal, claiming that the ruling contradicts a 2004 European law and is technically "unfeasible." It's really amazing in this day and age that courts still don't understand basic secondary liability issues and are happy to blame third parties for actions they had nothing to do with.
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Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 4:19amGood.
It's very amusing to see how Google thinks it can ignore takedown notices with impunity.
Looks like they can't.
John Doe, 11 Mar 2011 @ 4:26am
Re:Seems you are jumping to conclusions here. The linked article says the material kept appearing online even after the take down notice. That could mean once they took it down, someone else put it back up. I doubt very much Google ignores take down notices, they don't want the liability on them.
Anonymous Coward, 12 Mar 2011 @ 5:38pm
Re: Re:So why can't Google keep it down once its been posted and removed once? A copyright holder should only have to notify once. At that point, Google has the complaint on file and shouldn't require 1000x more notices every day of the week for it to do its job.
Google is the one choosing to publish without editorial review. If that is the business model they have chosen for themselves, it is their responsibility to deal with the consequences when it blows up in their face.
Ideally, they would just invest in more advanced and more adequate fingerprinting technology. That way, once something gets taken down, it stays down. But why would they do that? There isn't a single law compelling them to.
And the less responsibility they have, the more money they make. Why should they care whose work they are profiting from?
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 4:43am
Re:They did. And the material appeared again. The copyright holder did not enjoy it and got tired of defending it's rights (by sending takedown notices), so dumped that responsibility on Google, basically saying that it is Google's responsibility to monitor uploads and block those that infringe.
Now, anyone with the brain of a slug can tell that that is not doable. No one, not even Google, can filter through millions of uploads and magically determine those that infringe and those that don't (if you have an idea on how to do this, please, share!).
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:01am
Re: Re:ahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yes of course, it was simply impossible for Google to filter that.
That is so rich. I'm going to remember that one. "Why are you picking on Google? You act like they had the world's most sophisticated technology at their fingertips. They employ hundreds of elves and squirrels to move their materials from place to place. Quit picking on small folk."
Berenerd (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:50am
Re: Re: Re:Why don't you show us all how it is done...
Oh that is right...you can't...you have no ability thats why you troll. get back under your bridge.
Chuck (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 6:11am
Re: Re: Re:If it's impossible for your small folk to keep tabs on only your data, then how do you want Google to keep track of EVERYONE's material? If it's so simple, you can always do a google search RSS of the keywords that leads to infringement, but then you need to put in the human labour yourself to filter the results.. Google does not want to be liable for blocking sites because of over-zealous IP owners, because then they'll feel the wrath from site owners.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 6:52am
Re: Re: Re:I suggest you read a bit about pattern recognition, both in computer science and human psychology, since you seem to be completely unaware of the complexity of such a problem.
Solving Google's particular problem would certainly qualify for a noble prize (if there was such a thing for computer science).
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:01am
Re: Re: Re: Re:"noble prize"
D'oh. I meant Nobel Prize. Stupid dyslexia.
Stuart, 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:13am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:There is no longer anything noble about any Nobel prizes.
JTO (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:56am
Re: Re: Re: Re:Pattern recognition is a great idea! Why don't you give Google a few hundred million dollars for the supercomputers needed to process that much data in a reasonable amount of time?
Even if one company has the knowledge and resources to do it, safe harbor laws are there because the vast majority simply can't do it. However, this ruling states that, even though there are laws specifically protecting the third party, those laws don't matter if the offending material keeps on showing up.
Anonymous Coward, 12 Mar 2011 @ 5:34pm
Not reallyDigital fingerprinting is already quite commonplace. Marginally advancing the algorithms and the processing power dedicated to them is hardly worthy of a Nobel Prize.
Gwiz (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:01am
Re: Re: Re:SNORE.
Perhaps this is your problem. Sleeping at the helm of your ship is never a good idea. Your business tends to run aground with disastrous results.
Richard (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:02am
Re: Re: Re:That is so rich. I'm going to remember that one. "Why are you picking on Google? You act like they had the world's most sophisticated technology at their fingertips
No matter how sophisticated your technology there are some things that can't be done.
Perpetual motion machines
Squaring the circle
Travelling faster than light
Making sense of "the set of all sets that are not members of themselves"
Deciding whether the continuum hypothesis is true
Taking down an infringing upload instantly without information from the rightsholders
All things in the same category.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:38am
Re: Re: Re: Re:Traveling faster than light may be possible.
You see it all depends on how you define the speed of light and your theory of time.
Wait there is no theory of time. Physicists are not even up to understanding if time is analog or digital. And with out a theory of time it is impossible to state that matter may travel faster than the speed of light or not.
Richard (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 8:17am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:Sorry - you're not crazy enough to be right.
This is the kind of stupidity that people who don't really know about the subject come up with all the time - not the kind of stupidity that turns into the next new breakthrough.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 12:26pm
Re: Re: Re: Re:Squaring a circle reminds me of how PI is calculated LoL
Rekrul, 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:31am
Re: Re: Re:Yes of course, it was simply impossible for Google to filter that.
That is so rich. I'm going to remember that one. "Why are you picking on Google? You act like they had the world's most sophisticated technology at their fingertips. They employ hundreds of elves and squirrels to move their materials from place to place. Quit picking on small folk."
And how exactly do they filter out infringing sites?
If they just filter out any sites with the title of the film in them, that will also block every site that reviews the film, every news site that mentions it and even the Internet Movie Database. I doubt that France would be too happy with that.
OK, so it flags the sites for review. You now have 1,000,000+ sites waiting to be reviewed by a human. Some are obvious, such as links to downloadable copies, or torrents, but what about sites that have a 30 clip? Infringing or fair use? Do screencaps count as infringement? Answer fast because another 100,000 sites just popped up. How many sites can you check in an hour? Get moving, the title just appeared on another 150,000 sites.
Oh, don't forget about the other 100+ movies that might be turning up on 5,000,000+ web sites as well. Gotta filter for them too...
btr1701 (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 3:29pm
Re: Re: Re: Re:> And how exactly do they filter out infringing sites?
He doesn't know. He doesn't have any clue. He just says they're a big company should be able to do it and expects it magically to happen.
Anonymous Coward, 12 Mar 2011 @ 5:33pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:Digital fingerprinting technology works if you put enough money into it. If a viewer can understand what they are watching, so can a computer.
Plenty of companies offer fingerprinting solutions.
If Google can't find one to get the job done properly, then as they say, maybe its business model is at fault, and it should stop leeching off others' work altogether.
Gwiz (profile), 13 Mar 2011 @ 7:23am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:If Google can't find one to get the job done properly, then as they say, maybe its business model is at fault, and it should stop leeching off others' work altogether.
So, you are saying that it's your content, you have a copyright on it and you have the exclusive right to profit from it
it's your content, you have a copyright on it and it's someone else's responsibility to pay to protect it.
Double standard much?
Rekrul, 14 Mar 2011 @ 11:32am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:Digital fingerprinting technology works if you put enough money into it. If a viewer can understand what they are watching, so can a computer.
Plenty of companies offer fingerprinting solutions.
So digital fingerprinting works whether the movie is a high-quality MKV, or a crappy Flash video, as well as if the film is packed into password-protected Rar files?
Not to mention that to apply this technology, Google would actually have to download the files in question to be able to test them. Remember, the files aren't on Google's servers, they just link to them. So, you expect Google to download several thousand copies of the movie every day, from cyber lockers, torrents and other file sharing networks, so that they can test the files to see if they match up to the company's movie?
Yeah, that's going to work. While we're at it, why don't we force every company that compiles phone directories to make sure that they don't list the phone numbers of anyone doing anything illegal...
btr1701 (profile), 14 Mar 2011 @ 4:37pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:> Digital fingerprinting technology works if you put enough
> money into it.
Trips to Jupiter work with enough money behind them, however there's no legal or moral reason why someone putting a video service on the internet should have the burden of spending huge amounts of their own money to protect other people's stuff. If those people want their stuff protected, let them pay to do it.
D, 14 Mar 2011 @ 9:52pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:"If a viewer can understand what they are watching, so can a computer"
Seriously? So we have complete AI now? Right?
Point me to it, cause it is an interesting field.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:13am
Re:"It's very amusing to see how Google thinks it can ignore takedown notices with impunity."
What will be amusing will be when Google pulls out of France altogether because it's now responsible for every idiot that posts something stupid online.... like yourself for example...
John Duncan Yoyo, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:23am
Re: Re:Heh when Google pulls out of a country it ceases to exist for many people. Anyone remember hearing about a country named China?
While we are at it can we sue France because French Fries are bad for us?
Jay (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:13am
Re: Re: Re:Anyone hear about the little workaround and how they're still in China?
DOlz (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:20am
Re:Mr. Masnick,
You have a pull down menu for "Show All Comments", "Show Insightful Comments", and "Show Funny Comments". Could you please add an option to not show any comments by anonymous cowards.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:58am
Re: Re:Too much reality for ya?
John Doe, 11 Mar 2011 @ 4:24am
While they are appealing...While they appeal, they should block any and all mention of Mondovino and see how they like it. Tell them they can block everything or nothing, but there is little way to be selective.
Qritiqal (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 8:47am
Re: While they are appealing...I like this idea!
abc gum, 11 Mar 2011 @ 4:44amSeven degrees of infringement implies that Google needs to block everyone.
Miff (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:00amEveryone knows blacklists are ineffective at filtering. What we need is a whitelist.
A trusted party *ahem*MPAA*/ahem* gives Google a list of "non-infringing" sites, and Google only indexes them.
That way, Google's not at liability for infringement, and no infringement occurs. Everyone wins!
Except users, of course, but who cares about them.
FuzzyDuck, 11 Mar 2011 @ 6:21am
Re:Really how would that work?
When I create a site with my own content, how do I get it on the whitelist for indexing by Google? Do I have to ask a government or business interest group for permission?
Brian (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:20am
Re: Re:Yup, you would submit it to the *IAA's Infringing Sites group for analysis. This process will take anywhere from two to ten years for them to check over your site for any infringing content or content they deem harmful. Then you must submit a 1000-page form, in triplicates, that confirms your site has nothing infringing or harmful on it. After these documents are reviewed, handed back for correction, and corrections submitted your site will be added to the white list.
Re: Re:Yes, thats exactly what you must do. The post you replied to is packed with sarcasm, but I guess you missed it.
Richard (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:56am
Re: Re:You can't of course - Miff was being sarcastic.
Miff (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 2:54pm
Re: Re:Oh, you just have to pay a hefty fee to the whitelist maintainers. Nothing pricey of course, just a bit more than you'd pay to publish whatever you want to get out without the internet.
Unrelatedly, it figures that the one time I decide my post is sarcastic enough to not warrant the inclusion of a "" tag, someone takes it for real.
Bas Grasmayer (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:06amFlattr'd for the title, haha.
Shon Gale (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:11amFrance is out of control. But what do you expect when you elect a communist. Sarkozy sucks.
Major, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:34am
Re:Hey, in case that isnt sarcasm : sarkozy is right-wing, far from being communist, france actually have a party for that but no one seem to remember it :)
But i concur he does suck, just look at the record industry holding him by the jewel with hadopi and stuff... wait maybe thats why Carla Bruni actually married him ?
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:34am
Re:I agree France is out of control & Sarkozy sucks.
Unfortunately he *isn't* a communist.
Who knows, as a communist he may have actually been better at his job.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 6:33am
Re:communist? right now he is closer to the FN (Front National) than the UMP (center-right)
Beta, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:13am
shrug?If this ruling stands, how can anyone expect that it will be the last in France? At what point will it become more profitable in the long run for Google to cease operations in France entirely?
Jeffrey, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:14am
When will people ever learn?Blame the users, not the tool.
Google is a search engine. It's a tool that people can use. Plus, Google/Youtube can't view every video that gets uploaded. Hundreds of thousands...even millions of videos are uploaded every day. There's no way they can view every single one.
Frosty840, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:47am
Re: When will people ever learn?
There's no way they can view every single one.
Think again...
Richard (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 8:07am
Re: Re: When will people ever learn?Content ID - yawn - we know about that already -
if Mondovino had bothered to use Content ID there maybe wouldn't have been a problem. Part of the issue here seems to be that they didn't.
However content ID is fairly easy to defeat - because - in spite of the hype in your TED talk link - it is fairly limited in its ability to detect content that has been tweaked to get around it.
If you read the Argonne Lab Security Maxims you will understand why.
Pay particular attention to the Arrogance Maxim, the High Tech Maxim and the Dr Who Maxim.
Re: Re: Re: When will people ever learn?Actually, in my experience, Content ID has even taken down entire remixes of songs that were changed to the point of being fair-user. Sure, you can specifically modify it to bypass Content ID, but the quality would be really messed up and it wouldn't really be worth watching/listening to.
And of course, there are always going to be exceptions to that as well.
Richard (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 8:20am
Re: Re: When will people ever learn?Plus - the complaint was about the film appearing on Google search engine rather than Google video/Youtube.
They do mention Google video - but if Content ID had been used (their choice) there should not have been a problem.
btr1701 (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 3:35pm
Re: When will people ever learn?> There's no way they can view every single one
And even if they could, they can't determine what's copyrighted, who owns it, and if it infringes or not.
It takes entire trials in courts of law to determine that, yet Google is supposed to just magically know?
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:37amThe thing I see is this, everyone is running from the expenses to monitor and hold copyright in place, it is so expensive that no one wants that burden not even the primary beneficiaries of such policy and that is exactly why the entertainment industry is going to find itself alone in the dark, while people keep sharing and sharing and sharing LoL
This is just to funny, there is no technological solution possible to stop anything and now the industry is lashing out at the very people who could have helped them, maybe this is a lesson to others in the tech industry not to trust the entertainment industry and treat them just like they deserve, with indifference.
V, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:42am
It's France...It's France... did you really expect any SERIOUS laws from the country that bent over for Germany invaders?
They need to worry less about third party infringement and eat more cake...
Hephaestus (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:05am
Re: It's France..."It's France... did you really expect any SERIOUS laws from the country that bent over for Germany invaders?"
That nations moto should be "We Surrender, want some cheese?"
Jimr (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:47amIf it takes a court, a judge and team of lawyers to determine if something is copyright infringement how on earth can any single person (not to mention an automated algorithm) determine if something is legit?
John Doe, 11 Mar 2011 @ 5:49am
Re:You sir have hit the nail on the head. The MPAA, RIAA and book publishers know this, but that doesn't stop them from trying to put the cost of enforcement on others. They hope to dupe the unwitting public into thinking Google is the bad guy and support their cause.
Unfortunately, the courts should know better.
Gwiz (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 10:02am
Re: Re:The MPAA, RIAA and book publishers know this, but that doesn't stop them from trying to put the cost of enforcement on others.
It's exactly that.
It's like this:
I rent a unit in a strip mall and I run a donut shop and I make a pretty good profit selling donuts and coffee. One day somebody opens a shop next to me selling WiFi access and business services and as an incentive to increase sales they give away FREE donuts and coffee.
At this point I have three options:
a) I re-adjust my business strategy to remain profitable by adding experience for my customers or I start selling a different product. Or I think of some other strategy that keeps me competitive.
b) I call in the lawyers and demand that everyone I can think of, my competitor, my customers, the landlord, law enforcement, the government, Google and the Easter Bunny protect my business of selling donuts and coffee. By doing this I also alienate all of my existing and/or new customers. Of course I expect all of these other entities to foot the bill for these expenses too.
c) Do nothing and eventually lay off all my employees, file bankruptcy and close my shop.
Which is the best option for me?
icepick314, 11 Mar 2011 @ 6:39am
How about this?if I owned Google, I would just pull out from France for pissing me off with this ridiculous lawsuit...
The eejit (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:05am
Re: How about this?Actually, I would go all evil megacorp, and pull all *.fr and French-language sites from their index.
imbrucy (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:17am
Re: Re: How about this?If only Google would actually do this. For the average user this would equate to all french websites effectively disappearing from the internet.
Nina Paley (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 7:23am
FranceFrance has the worst culture laws in the Western world.
On the bright side, that's giving rise to one of the most vibrant Free Culture movements in the Western world, too.
MADelineWoe, 15 Mar 2011 @ 12:08pm
Re: FranceComing from the renowned Free Culture Activist Nina Paley!!
Hope you all know!
MADelineWoe, 15 Mar 2011 @ 12:11pm
Re: Franceps love your work!
Google HeatmappingIt should be noted that Google does employ a heat-mapping system on YouTube which is used to detect copyright infringing audio or video. I am not sure if this is run on Google Video as well, but if your content is really infringed so heavily, you would be stupid not to add your content to this system as it will take down the violations and prevent them from being added to this site.
Here is a video I watched a long time ago about copyright infringement on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_EamVE1HVE
MADelineWoe, 15 Mar 2011 @ 12:21pm
Re: Google HeatmappingI have tried to upload video on my blogger blog and it turns into a youtube video...
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 9:01amSo is Apple in grave risk of inducement charges since their iPad device actually is "magical"?
crade (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 10:35amPersonally I hope google and the rest of the doers go all Atlus Shrugged on all our asses.
known coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 12:44pmJust because google�s business model for you tube does not include pre screening of videos for whatever reason, does not mean they can not be forced to do pre screening or not put the video�s up. Google�s business model is not defacto legal because it exists and does not mean requiring prescreening is illegal, and or stupid.
and to some of the comments: Google will pull out of france sometime after they pull out of china.
Gwiz (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 1:04pm
Re:Just because google�s business model for you tube does not include pre screening of videos for whatever reason, does not mean they can not be forced to do pre screening or not put the video�s up.
And just because the movie industry's business model does not include the cost of policing their own IP, does not mean that Google or the ISP's should have to pay for it instead.
It's your content, if you want it protected, then bear the costs yourselves or don't release it.
btr1701 (profile), 11 Mar 2011 @ 3:40pm
Re: Irony> Google�s business model is not defacto legal
> because it exists
You owe me a new irony meter. Your comment just blew mine to pieces.
D, 14 Mar 2011 @ 9:58pm
Re:They have a prescreening system.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 3:43pmNew slogan: "Google Video. It's not Hotfile. We actually have content."
I don't think there's ANY content on Hotfile anymore.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Mar 2011 @ 4:31pmIt's really amazing in this day and age that courts still don't understand basic secondary liability issues and are happy to blame third parties for actions they had nothing to do with. It's because it's so broad, that if they allow Google to do it, they're allowing ThePirateBay to do it. Simple as that. Can't let that happen. Ever. Think of the children!
John Horstman, 14 Mar 2011 @ 8:54pm
Re: Nobody uses subjects?"It's because it's so broad, that if they allow Google to do it, they're allowing ThePirateBay to do it. Simple as that. Can't let that happen. Ever. Think of the children!"
Yup, ThePirateBay, IsoHunt, NinjaVideo, et al. And that's because what they're doing is legal, because the concept of "intellectual property" was formulated when a small oligopoly controlled content distribution and no longer applies to the current paradigm. Unfortunately, bandwidth is so inflated in cost that it's still cost-prohibitive to allow for the previous method of combating piracy: the quality vs. cost trade-off. People bought cassettes and CDs instead of recording them off of the radio or from friends because of ease-of-access and quality; people are willing to pay for those. People are NOT willing to pay for marginal gains in quality (if that; my NetFlix streaming is terrible quality, mostly) if it means tons of DRM that greatly impedes ease-of-access. High-bandwidth, high-quality streaming solves the problem; I, and I'm sure anyone who was going to buy anything in the first place, am totally willing to pay for the ability to confidently get my hi-def movie NOW instead of waiting three hours for a crappy 700 MB download through bit torrent. Why on earth would I pay to get an extremely limited catalog of streaming video in equally crappy encodings when I can get a much larger catalog for free with minimal to zero wait time? The answer isn't to re-imagine the industry, it's to do what they've always done: compete on the basis of quality-of-service. The people who can't afford $15/month for NetFlix or something similar can't afford your product anyway; you're not "losing" money when they "steal" it.
MADelineWoe, 15 Mar 2011 @ 11:36am
Re: Re: Nobody uses subjects?Yes! Some people would never buy it, but rent it.
If you torrent it..yes there are many bad quality torrents. If your video is not bad, then the audio seems bad, unless they obtained their copy from the source. Or are from fiend geeks who like to edit and fix up videos. A sort of pride in being able to fix it , I am sure. Thus you have some pseudonym like "TheKid" or something that has almost the same underground heroism as a famous tagger(say banksy). They must be electronically set up with fast drives or dvr recorders and conversion programs...at a quess. I tried copying a DVD with one of those ripping programs to test out how easy it would be to make personal back ups on DVD disks. I found that it was a lot of time for my drive to be spinning and I personally would not put my computer through all that.
MADelineWoe, 15 Mar 2011 @ 12:54pm
Re: Re: Re: Nobody uses subjects?Copy from the source meaning some one stole it off the editing desk or likely they have a copy of the distributed DVD to the Academy for review and voting that has subtitles saying "Do Not Copy".
There was a lot of hoopla going on when X-men Origins Wolverine got out from the studio prior to theater release. The torrent was excellent quality, however there was a couple of scenes where the the green background and computer generated grids of sort. Just recently a man from New York was sentenced for putting it on two of his websites for download...up to $250,000 fine. He had got the copies from MegaUpload.com. There are many other great quality torrents from sources unknown that come out two days after theater release and are not web cammed.
If you hook it up to your flatscreen and watch them...it is pretty much like watching the rental dvd...
The thing is..you got to be pretty cheap to download a video when you can rent them for a buck and buy them as low as 5 bucks used.
But, I think you are right. Those who do this would not normally buy it.
Zahn, 14 Mar 2011 @ 3:28am
really?is this true or it's a joke? it was found guilty for this? come on... it can't be real :)) looks like a 1 april joke... although I read the article on paidcontent and it looks like indeed, google did it :D
MADelineWoe, 15 Mar 2011 @ 10:53amI find it funny that there are Mozilla add-ons and other free ware that allows you just to right click and download a YouTube video in the format of the users choice. All the wholabala about Limeware and music, and MP3's are just a right click away off of YouTube. The add on that saves in FLV will download off of other sites that offer music and movies.
The prescreening you speak of is counter acted by disclaimer that the uploader pastes to the description. Or pastes to the dispute form. This is not top secret info.
"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use".
Yet when you upload with the disclaimer, it still has a note on it that it has third party content, yet it plays and is embeddable. Is this enabling infringement?
Tag and sort and leave it up to the user to delete the bad deed? I don't get it. An analogy is that you leave a bag of money in the bank lobby and then put a camera on it and see who takes off with it? Hold on to the security tape and then bust them later?
Also with the right click ability to download off of a site, you can take it then edit it to your preference (say add lyrics or change the video content) and then upload it back. Is it wrong to take it then give it back?
I read somewhere that for the purposes of editing, it is legal to have an MP3 for only 48 hrs then you must delete it?


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