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Judge rules Indiana must recognize 1 gay couple's marriage
A federal judge ordered Indiana on Thursday to recognize the out-of-state marriage of a gay couple before one of the women, who has cancer, dies. The decision, specific to the couple, doesn't affect other lawsuits challenging Indiana's ban on same-sex marriages.
U.S. District Court Judge Richard L. Young granted the request by Niki Quasney and Amy Sandler for a temporary restraining order that forces Indiana to recognize "this particular couple's out of state marriage," said Paul Castillo, an attorney for the national gay rights group Lambda Legal, who represented them.
The state must recognize their marriage immediately, Castillo said. "They have to be treated as any other married couple," he said.
Quasney said she felt grateful for the judge's ruling.
"We are so thankful that we can move forward and concentrate on being with each other. Our time together and with our daughters is the most important thing in the world to me," Quasney said in a statement. Sandler and Quasney, of Munster, had asked Indiana to recognize their 2013 marriage that took place in Massachusetts, one of 17 states where gay marriage is legal. Indiana does not recognize same-sex marriages performed inside or outside of the state.
Indiana Solicitor General Thomas Fisher argued that Indiana's current law "does not allow for hardship exceptions," attorney general's spokesman Bryan Corbin said in a statement after the ruling.
Young's decision doesn't affect other lawsuits challenging Indiana's gay marriage ban. "County clerks still are prohibited by law from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples," Corbin said.
Corbin said the office would not comment further until attorneys had seen the judge's written order.
Quasney has stage 4 ovarian cancer, and the couple had argued in their complaint that the court should grant their request because "they have an urgent need to have their marriage recognized" due to Quasney's terminal illness.
Young ordered the state to recognize their marriage in Quasney's anticipated death certificate.
"No one can determine for sure how much time Niki has left. And it was certainly important to the couple to be recognized as married during the time she has remaining, Castillo said.
Young's order issued Thursday lasts until May 8, and cannot be appealed. The court is expected to schedule a hearing as soon as possible on a preliminary injunction, which would last until the courts ruled on the larger issue of whether Indiana ban's is constitutional.
Castillo said the couple sought a temporary restraining order because that process moves faster than others. "It was more of an urgency issue," he said.
Quasney and Sandler have been together 13 years and have two daughters, ages 1 and 2, conceived through "reproductive technology" and birthed by Sandler, according to their brief. In their federal complaint, the women argued that Indiana's marriage law "encourages and invites private bias and discrimination, including in medical settings."
The brief argued that if the state listed Quasney as unmarried it would interfere with Sandler's ability to take care of her partner's affairs after her death, and to access the safety net generally available to a surviving spouse and the children of the person who has died.
In Illinois, a same-sex couple in which one woman had cancer was the first to marry in the state after a federal judge ordered that they be granted an expedited marriage license ahead of the date when the state's gay marriage law took effect. A subsequent judge's ruling then paved the way for more same-sex couples to marry early in some Illinois counties. The big difference is that Illinois already had a law passed allowing gay marriage, though it had not yet gone into effect.
Although Indiana's Legislature did not send a proposed state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage to a referendum this year, the state already bars gay marriage under a statute defining marriage as between one man and one woman.


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In July, the world's greatest distance runner, Mo Farah of Great Britain, challenged the world's greatest sprinter, Jamaica's Usain Bolt, to a race. Farah suggested a distance of 600 or 800 meters, both options significantly longer than Bolt's preferred race distances of 100 and 200 meters yet significantly shorter than Farah's own preferred race distances of 5000 and 10,000 meters. Bolt readily accepted the challenge, choosing the 600-meter option.
No venue or date has yet been selected for the showdown, and some track and field insiders have expressed doubt that it will ever happen. Nevertheless, many fans have offered predictions, with a majority favoring Farah. In a September interview for BBC Radio, Bolt admitted that he would need to train specifically for the 600-meter distance to have any chance of beating Farah.
More: Easy Does It: High-mileage or High Intensity?
There seems to be widespread agreement that if the compromise race distance were only 400 meters, Bolt would win. Indeed, Bolt occasionally competes at that distance and has a sizzling personal best of 45.28 seconds. Farah's personal best time for 1500 meters, 3:28.81, predicts a 400-meter time of 46.0 seconds. It's doubtful that Farah could close the gap on Bolt at that distance with any amount of specific training.
But what if the challenge was not a single race of 400 meters but a set of five races of 400 meters with 5-minute rest periods between them? It's very easy to predict what would happen in this scenario. Bolt would win the first race by at least half a second. The second race would end in a virtual tie. Then Farah would beat Bolt by ever-increasing margins in the last three races, utterly humiliating him in the fifth.
This is not pure speculation. Research shows that while speed-trained athletes perform better than endurance-trained athletes in an individual sprint, endurance-trained athletes perform better than speed-trained athletes in multiple sprints.
More: The Benefits of Running Slow
One study of this kind was conducted at Loughborough University in 1991. It involved six endurance-trained runners and six "games players." Since this study was done in Britain, we can guess that these "games players" belonged to rugby and or soccer teams. In any case, the point is that the training of these games players was speed based rather than endurance based.
All 12 athletes were asked to perform a set of 10 sprints lasting just 6 seconds each on a nonmotorized treadmill. Each sprint was followed by 30 seconds of rest. The researchers measured performance by recording power output in each sprint. As expected, the speed-trained athletes tended to produce more power than did the distance runners (839 watts versus 777 watts, on average).
As was also expected, power output declined in both groups as the workout progressed. But the drop from the first sprint to the last was more than twice as great among the games players than it was among the runners (29.3 percent to 14.2 percent). And, in fact, the runners outperformed the games players in the last few sprints.
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09.25.12: The CCRI Knights men's soccer team traveled to Holyoke, MA to play the Cougars of Holyoke Community College for a Region XXI non-league game. The Knights defeated the Cougars 2-0. With the victory the Knights improve to 3-4 overall and 3-1 in Region XXI play.
The Knights continue to deal with injuries, with starters: Chris Munoz (Talcahuano, Chile), Damon Georgiou (Portsmouth, RI) and Frederick Korsah (Accra, Ghana) unable to play due to injuries. This forced Head Coach Gabe Toro and his staff to make some adjustments to their lineup once again. Newcomers to the Knights Kyle Ferreira (Westerly, RI) and Jossiemar Caballero (Providence, RI) stepped-up and did very well in their first starts of the season, contributing to the team immediately.
The Knights opened up the scoring on a free kick from Servi Barrientos (Providence, RI) before the first half ended. After the Knights played well for most of the first half, they came out flat the second half which allowed Holyoke to get back into the game. The Knights had some chances but were not aggressive enough to get another goal until there was twenty minutes left in the game. Forward Luis Duarte (Pawtucket, RI) scrambled to pass the ball to Barrientos who unleashed a powerful shot from the top of the 18 yard box into the top corner of the Holyoke net to give the Knights a 2-0 lead and eventual margin of victory. Goalkeeper Derek Soares (Pawtucket, RI) also got his first start of the year and made the most of it charting his first career shutout.
Coach Toro commented after the game: "Overall, the new lineup did show some more offensive flow but the defense still needs to work on cleaning up their play coming out of the back."
The Knights look forward to their next game this Saturday at 3:30pm when they will host the Wolverines of Essex County College form Newark, NJ at the CCRI soccer complex in Lincoln.
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|Iraq car bomb kills 12 Shiite pilgrims
|At least 12 Shiite Muslim pilgrims were killed on Thursday in Iraq when a car bomb exploded in the city of al-Hillah, south of the capital Baghdad, police said.
Some 43 were injured in the attack, which targeted a convoy of pilgrims were returning from the Arbaeen pilgrimage that commemorates 40 days after the slaying of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the prophet Mohammed, police said, dpa reported.
Millions of pilgrims attended this year's ceremony, including 750,000 from other countries, according to security officials.
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Have you thought about making this xmas party an event cache so we can log it?? I'm looking forward to seeing all of you there.
Yep, just awaiting approval. I had to remove something from the listing so hopefully it will get approved soon!
junglehair wrote:
I'll be sure to bring my coin collection with me for anyone that wants to log them and add about 20 new coin icons to their stats page!
The Winter Soiree Event is now posted on gc.com at:
If you plan to attend, please post a note there with how many in your party.
One of the things I would like to have at the event that I couldn't include on the listing on gc.com is that everybody attending donate $5 minimum to be collected and donated to a charity of choice as yet to be determined on behalf of the MBGA. Does anybody have any problems with this and if not, suggestions for charities? There are tons and I'm sure we can come up with something!
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29 August 2013
Hybrid or multi-cloud deployment is the most cost effective and efficient method for a business to manage abundant cloud computing resources, cloud computing experts at the University of Sydney say.
The School of Information Technologies' Centre for Distributed and High Performance Computing has endorsed the hybrid cloud model because it is a scalable, quantifiable solution that can combine the best of both private and public clouds. Their endorsement comes on the heels of the group's Cloud Computing Systems and Applications forum.
"A hybrid cloud is a cloud computing environment where a business can manage some resources in-house while also utilising external providers," explains Dr Young Choon Lee, a research fellow at the centre.
"A business or organisation might use a public cloud service such as Amazon EC2, MS Azure or Google Compute Engine to process and archive burly data, but continue to utilise its in-house storage capacity for operational or day to day data.
"The hybrid approach allows a business to take advantage of the scalability and cost-effectiveness that a public cloud computing environment offers without exposing the organisation's applications and data to third-party vulnerabilities such as hacking."
"The availability of virtually unlimited cloud resource with the elasticity of public clouds in particular is a great opportunity for a business yet determining the best resource provisioning level is an open question."
The trade-off between cost and performance that are two main and conflicting objectives in hybrid cloud can be effectively captured using pareto-optimality, states Dr Lee.
Corporations can choose multiple trade-off points best suited to their business needs
"For example, pharmaceutical companies could run their drug design software - software that typically requires large-scale distributed computing capacity - across private and public clouds."
Professor Albert Zomaya, Chair of High Performance Computing and Networking at the University who also participated in the think-tank says it is critical that we develop models for the efficient use of cloud resources and traditional data centres.
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Many organisations already combine their own private clouds with data centres. Managing their cloud storage addresses security concerns but not consumption or usage levels.
"Private cloud capacity can be much reduced by dynamically provisioning public cloud capacity. While sensitive data and time critical workloads are processed in their private cloud, the rest may be offloaded to public clouds."
While a seemingly cost effective option for excessive data, businesses must consider security and regulatory compliance requirements such as privacy and confidential of client information, states Professor Zomaya.
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|2011-11-28, 22:12
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[PC] Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate (Love, Election, and Chocolate)
With the anime have been announced, this is a thread for game players who wish to discuss the game, or to discuss their expectations of the anime based on their game experiences.
Title: Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate (vndb)
Brand: Sprite (region-locked)
Genre: 18+ AVG
Themes: Romance, Drama, and High School Politics
Release Date: 2010-10-29
Premise and OP are at the top of the anime thread. Here's a nice review of the game.
WARNING ABOUT SPOILERS: This thread will contain spoilers about game events. While participants are encouraged to use spoiler tags if revealing specific end-game details or plot twists, this thread is intended primarily for people who have already played the game or are at least willing to be spoiled about it.
I'm going to start the discussion by continuing from the anime thread.
While I have a few qualms with the Chisato route (particularly with the ending), she did reach lethal levels of cute and deredere in some parts. The most memorable scene in the game for me was the morning after she and Yuki became an official couple. If there were a good use for the "so moe I fucking died" meme, that would be it for me. I think they make a really good couple, which is it makes sense that her route is the "base route" for the game.
|2011-11-29, 03:30
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I kind of agree about the drama being a bit too drawn. But to be fair so does all the other route.
Spoiler for LOL:
I might be a little bit bias here since I love some good old love triangle drama. The intensity in Mifuyu route is what I'm looking for. Mifuyu kind of want to get in realtionship with Yuuki but afraid that she might hurt chisato. Of course this kind of pattern is pretty much everywhere but instead of the usual - hard to get because I'm your girlfriend's best friend - She gives Yuuki a lot of hopes and in a sense she kind of outright betray chisato. Like when she kissed him outside school at night. (if my memory seves me right)
Chisato attitude in some other route clearly didn't help either. Though I have to admit that her dere-dere mode is as good as you said, I had suspicion on her that she might have mild yanderu tendency.
My second best would be Michiru. I especially love that scene where chisato said to Yuuki that it's all too late to take him from Michiru (with that music in the background playing).
Personally I hope the anime would combine Mifuyu and Chisato route together
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Mifuyu as a character was good, but her route itself was too drama-loaded and packed with an aura of uneasiness roughly after Yuki's "love realization" has started. I must say that I have a clear dislike about this kind of love triangle as it has happened on her route.
Spoiler for Mifuyu:
If the anime wants to focus on waves of either love-drama or plot/election-drama, they should opt for Mifuyu or Isara (I mean there were moments where a temporary "You have failed" sign was looming in the air election-wise). I cannot comment on Michiru's because I didn't understand the main jist of her route that well.
Chisato's drama really only started after her jealousy on Isara "escalated" when she argued with Yuki and her past re-emerged to slap her. Of course on my first playthrough I didn't mind any bit of drama on Chisato's route, but retropective I can see flaws
/needs to refresh his memory
|2012-07-19, 13:04
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After watching 3 episodes (yes including the one that aired a few hours ago) i have a small idea what the anime is doing.
My initial reaction was that the anime felt rushed , because in the game there was some slight buildup to it before the club was in actual jeopardy of being disbanded. The idea of joining the election to prevent the disbanding of the club took place slightly later in the game.
Eventhough it was not a bad idea in retrospect for doing so, because the anime could start the election settings earlier and thus the anime watchers could easier get interested in this anime .
Spoiler for spoilers:
edit: eventhough "Non-chan" was promoted as a main heroine for the psp port, i doubt that the anime will do anything with that
Just like that the Mashiro iro Symphony anime didn't add anything from Sana's route on the psp
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|2012-07-21, 22:38
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I'll go with two questions for now. Tag spoiler if it's warranted, though since I know just about nothing of the game, I doubt it would constitute it.
1. What's your opinions of the different order of the events from game and anime. The same text/event more or less happened regardless of different background/location, and while it seems interchangeable it does change things.
(Also I believe most events had Chisato with Oojima with almost every encounter hence his seeking of his destined one which obviously was nowhere near the priority of the anime's start)
2. Although Ayumu is a cameo, with the fact that she and two friends showed up at the first major scene of the anime, as well as right after Oojima was debating on running, as well as before Oojima went to eat dinner, doesn't it look like to the casual viewer that they have relevance? They show up more (often) than Ariake Mieru and Saga Reiji (wait did they even use his name? They said Garage but ...) in my opinion, and those two are supposed to be the most helpful side character classmates. Yes you can assume the Ayumu group isn't from the same school but then they run around the same city/area. (And if they were in the same school you'd think Oojima would ask them for their help).
In other words, the main point is easy to follow but I find it easy to get confused. You have fewer main girls but you have a lot more characters.
On a random note since the general route is the same throughout, it's easy to implement the common route/plot. It's almost also possible to run components of every route literally.
On another random note despite some trends of "non-primary" girls winning, I would think for Koichoco it's easier to attempt that given that the struggle of that concept is within the base plot itself. (Meaning the protagonist is actually looking into having a girlfriend and actively shows interest).
Then there's a bunch of tiny things but I won't inquire here.
Is there any speculation on route order if it's implemented? Given the pace of the election that easily covers the bulk of the next few episodes, but I do wonder. (If there was a route order I'd randomly say the same order you see the girls right at the end of the opening). There was already evidence or statements of singular character focused episodes. And even if not, you'd expect that anyways other than the election stuff.
Yeah, so I found it interesting how the anime set up ways to leave holes everywhere despite having a main focus. I felt this was much different than the game (despite the common election component being more or less the same). Introductions to characters (main girls specifically) are virtually identical too. But this anime contrast of Chisato where she isn't with Oojima and Oojima being with another girl is rather interesting. I don't think there's any PSP specific components here, but I wouldn't know.
Speaking of which, the Morishita-already-joined/met is a bit odd if a route or something new occurs to Oojima. It's like "ok I regularly hang out with this girl but she's still an enigma". Well, not that it matters.
I could have my facts totally wrong but I am curious to know. I didn't even mention about Hidaka. Ah too many things to look at. Seriously, this formula looks similar to Manglobe's Mashiro and then you get thrown a second curveball that Oojima wanting to look for love not with Chisato is already an in-game engine.
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|2012-07-23, 17:17
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Well I'm already ruling out Isara to even be a possible candidate for the anime ending due to the fact many of her scenes were already omitted. What concerns me though is how much screen time is she going to get? She is my favorite character after all.
Based on the little I've skimmed through here about Mifuyu, I doubt I will like her route (I've yet to play through it). I was already surprised on how immature she is... just learning more about her feels like I'd be forcing myself.
|2012-07-23, 17:34
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Spoiler for spoiler:
But like what i have posted before, i don't think Isara stands a chance in the anime.
|2012-07-23, 18:24
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Really? I'm only finding it not an absolute rule out yet because while you guys say omission it felt to me more like a reorder of events. So I personally thought Isara's events were pushed to later as opposed to coinciding so that the flow of events remain.
It's true that an actual route/ending of Isara is unlikely, however I am fairly certain problems you see with the school/system that involve Isara are relevant. (Otherwise why bother with Oosawa scandal lol).
And yes I'm aware most, if not everything can pretty much singlehandedly be resolved by Satsuki which is why other character omitting levels other than Chisato is quite likely. Heck even Chisato's had lower allocation such as having Oojima directly introduce himself with Satsuki and Isara alone as opposed to with Chisato nearby or next to him (and Mifuyu too for Satsuki's meeting).
I guess I'm expecting more flashbacks, granted I generally don't like a large amount of flashbacks unless it's extremely relevant.
If I recall, in the game Oojima actually actively (or wanted to) find love aka a girlfriend, but the anime very vaguely implies this (like the start of episode 2 with the destined one comment in his room directed at Chisato). Though I guess having Oojima get particularly happy over meeting Satsuki and Isara are sufficient.
I recall the election is for the most part persistent through most of the game, and not like a minor early event (ex: Otoboku) where you get over 75% of the vote within the first three episodes (or early enough in the game) where winning was important but not particularly integral. Much different here in Koichoco where you either genuinely want to win or learn enough so you can still make a difference (since the chocolate club is like a completely irrelevant third party so to speak).
Speaking of which, the school has 6000 students right? Why wasn't there a mention of how big the school is? I'm not familiar with private high schools, but when other visual novel adaptations have like 700 (ex: Clannad), 6000 does look a LOT more. [Especially when the preliminaries require 10% votes hence 600 people which is no easy feat.]
I still think it's a reordering of events rather than omissions. But if I looked at in an omission viewpoint, yes I would agree it did look like a TON was omitted. I mean yes I can see how you want to leave Koichoco somewhat happy but um, there are components that aren't exactly happy happy.
Thanks for the inputs. After watching the end of episode 3 I got drastically interested in game events and the reordering or omission and wanting to know why for instance, or what could be implemented next.
|2012-07-23, 19:22
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The anime has so far mixed the beginning parts of most characters into the first three episodes: The encounter with Satsuki which lead to Yuuki's final decision in participating at the election, one scene of Michiru following him and Chisato when she went with him to talk with the other clubs. That leaves Isara and Mifuyu, whereas the latter has only a few scenes before it goes too deep into the drama-route.
Spoiler for Mifuyu:
I cannot remember if the scene where Yuuki cooked for Hazuki counts already as another snippet of Satsuki's route or happens also during the common one, but the sisters' argument counts likely towards it..
Corrections are welcome.
@election: The final stage of the student president elections was indeed an important part towards the end or 3/4 part of each route for at least Chisato, Mifuyu, Isara and Satsuki .
|2012-07-24, 01:04
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Now the anime doesn't need to be exact to the game, but reordering events isn't exactly chronological. The current omissions seem okay (like Michiru's welcome party) to be more concise or having less food club idle time and getting right into the manifesto.
Since the PSP game isn't out I can't really ask if there is anything specific to it, but from what I've seen there isn't much deviation from the game either. The most important points of the game are featured in the anime, I suppose.
And yeah I should realize a girl is more likely to win if she has more screen time (Satsuki) than usual rather than less (Isara). However one can argue that just about everything that was already shown is all common route material.
Well, based on VN adaptation trends, route specific content doesn't usually manifest until say an episode 5, 6, or 7. By 8 or 9 you're guaranteed something.
And hyl you're right, as far as omissions go, ironically other than Satsuki (whose scenes we already saw actually appear in other locations), even Chisato specific scenes were done less. There's less Chisato room penetration. There's less morning conversations (particularly due to animating Oojima walking around alone for a good portion of episode 2). Actually this I find interesting. While a Chisato end is no guarantee nor is it out of the question, there is indication it could go either or and it's staying neutral currently.
I personally did find it weird that not much about the distaste of chocolate was emphasized, or what Oojima actually wants normally (love/girlfriend) because the student council running is more like "event triggering" that even he initially didn't want (as opposed to a nice/destined girlfriend/love which he clearly wouldn't mind).
The other interesting contrast is having "daily characters" (like the club members hanging around each other) not knowing too much about one another (such as Chisato not knowing what Oojima is doing, or the Shinonome sister fact, or other things). Since all the daily club stuff which is normally present in the game was totally omitted and fast forwarded, I felt like the two "monkeys" (who I don't recall being called monkeys in the anime at all) didn't even have their named mentioned for the most part. [You knew everyone's names from the club members introducing themselves to Michiru but since you didn't have the Michiru welcome party, you didn't even have character introductions!]
I guess it's good and bad. You minimize any effect of a drag out by keeping the main interesting points and plot momentum but enough holes to be curious about backstory and what will happen next.
If I recall though, Koichoco's greatest strength was in its watercolor drawing, as opposed to its writing. Seems an acceptable level from what I read on reviews, but far from perfect or ideal. (Lol or Chisato being required to be finished first on the first playthrough).
I find this very interesting as while the game pointed out Oojima dense effects, in this case he looks proactive. (Though really the dense effect is towards Chisato but then you can integrate the childhood friend effect or them as a "team" or "pair" ... which the anime didn't really mention either.) In fact most scenes you see are Chisato NOT with Oojima (or not seeing the same thing like how Oojima sees a propeller and mask).
Well, I expect the cooking thing to occur. Funny, you'd have Isara cookies which are salty and then you have Chisato cooking where you know that's her only major weakpoint. I'm not sure what order goes what but um yeah I think the Isara cookies were first.
Sure interested as to what will come next. Can't deviate too far into a route or it'll sway too far from the base plot but who knows.
|2012-07-24, 04:08
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Spoiler for spoiler:
So in matter of fact, i don't think Chisato had that much less screentime compared to the VN, but some of her hints were more subtile in the anime.
I didn't mind a forced playing order, because Chisato's route was pretty important and like Relentlessflame has posted a few years ago it was the "base route" of the game.
Enforced playing orders in general (like Hatsuyuki Sakura or Fate/Stay night) are not bad if it's done well, but that is just my opinion
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|2012-07-24, 04:38
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I agree. If done correctly a forced playing order isn't really bad except for the personal bias of "OMG I wanna play route x first!!!" .
I liked Chisato's route and she remained my fav. girl after I completed the VN. In contrast to Michiru where I had sadly as good as no idea what the route was about. The very few snippets I grasped, didn't help Maybe it's time for another shot.
Spoiler for Chisato + other routes:
And yes, the special scene in hyl's spoiler happens after you are locked into Chisato's route.
|2012-07-24, 09:34
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As for the politics. I was on the edge of my seat for Isara's version. There was a lot of tension and drama which really had me worried on how things would end up. I'm not sure if any other version can compare to it imo, but I have yet to go through every route so this opinion could be premature.
Btw.. does anyone think that Chisato's personality has been toned down in the anime to be more likeable? The fact that she let Oojima walk around all morning by himself and not questioning him about as strongly as she would in the VN has made me wonder how they are going to handle her story in the adaption.
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Well the only thing that wasn't from the common route in this week's episode was the inclusion of the beginning of Isara's route with her being bullied (and it even looks more terrifying than i would have imagined, because you never actually saw the bullying in the game aside from the guys who said that Isara stinked).
And a small advancement into Satsuki's route (including her dealing with the members of the air sumo club).
Michiru's stalking from last week wasn't explored further this week. So i don't think we get any advancement in her story unless we get to the part with the harmonica
Spoiler for spoiler:
So far, the anime has small bits in it from every route except Mifuyu's. Which is not strange because the events that started her route started later.
The anime mostly seems to favor Satsuki though.
edit: i have noticed that the pacing of this episode has slowed down in comparison with the previous 3 episodes.
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Eventhough that event was seen in the common route, the reason for it was only explained in the Satsuki route.
My memories of her route is a little fuzzy but from what i still remember, it had something to do with that it started that at one time Yuuki got kissed by Hazuki (not sure if she was drunk or not). I think that this kiss was the start that caused them to have somewhat feelings for eachother (so much that Hazuki even confessed to him in Satsuki's route).
I am pretty sure that others can fill in the rest of the details , but i will reread Satsuki's story later today (i am still busy with a trial version of a new game now) for a more definite answer
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VERGENNES — When Ann Rivers, Richard Catchapaw and Anthony Korda got the call from Vergennes Area Rescue Squad (VARS) Operations Officer Chuck Welch last Friday afternoon, the three volunteer rescue workers had less than an hour to make up their minds. Were they ready and willing, Welch wanted to know, to push off for the Gulf Coast — and could they do it in three hours' time?
With Hurricane Gustav set to bear down on Louisiana and Mississippi, Welch told them, the call had gone out for out-of-state assistance, and American Medical Response (AMR), the private company responsible for contracting emergency response teams for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, tapped the Vergennes crew for help.
The VARS ambulance crew was one of 11 Vermont rescue crews to head south in preparation for Gustav's landfall. (A mechanical breakdown in Virginia meant that 10 Vermont ambulances arrived by Saturday evening.)
Though they were given just a few minutes to make the decision, all three responders — Korda, from the Town Line First Response team in Bridport, and VARS volunteers Rivers and Catchapaw — pushed off on the 3,000-mile trek to Mississippi last Friday, just over four hours after VARS received the initial call from AMR.
"They drove straight through," Welch said, and arrived in Jackson, Miss. — a staging area for out-of-state ambulance crews — on Saturday night around 6 p.m.
"We're pretty fortunate to have dedicated folks that are able to drop everything and go," he said.
Gustav is not the first natural disaster that has sent VARS volunteers south to chip in while hurricanes chart their course for the states along the Gulf of Mexico.
By JOHN FLOWERS
VERGENNES —A half-dozen Vergennes-area church congregations are joining forces to pull together money, food, clothing and other resources to help needy residents weather high heating fuel prices this winter.
Working together as the Economic Crisis Community Response Team, or ECCRT, the parishioners have already brainstormed such ideas as filling gas cans with enough fuel to get needy households through the night until they can tap into assistance programs, assembling an emergency firewood pile, reaching out to people who may have surplus vegetables in their gardens, and organizing trips to the Wal-Mart distribution center in Johnstown, N.Y., to get free "seconds" for distribution to those in need.
"We all expect (an economic crunch) is coming, because of the cost of fuel," said Connie Goodrich, chairwoman of the ECCRT. "Our biggest concern is for seniors on fixed incomes and the working parent who doesn't qualify for fuel assistance or food stamps."
ECCRT membership currently includes members of the Congregational Church of Vergennes, St. Peter's Catholic Church, St. Paul's Episcopal Church, the Ferrisburgh Community Methodist Church, Addison Baptist Church and Vergennes Methodist Church. Organizers will reach out to fellow parishioners and non-church-goers alike in their effort to find resources for people they fear may have to choose between food, medicine and heating fuel this winter.
"We are anticipating a crisis of some kind," said the Rev. Gary Lewis, pastor of the Congregational Church of Vergennes.
The Addison Independent reported on Sept. 1 that the number of families needing help from the Congregational Church's food shelf has jumped 25 percent compared to the same time last year. The food shelf is currently helping around 125 households.
MIDDLEBURY — After almost a dozen years of practicing medicine in Middlebury, Dr. Breena Holmes has decided to at least temporarily retire her stethoscope and return to the classroom.
No, Holmes isn't going back to school as a student. She's returning to be a teacher — in Middlebury Union High School's Health Literacy program.
"This was generally about my need and desire to be with adolescents," Holmes said of her transition from physician to teacher, which officially commenced last week.
Holmes has, for the past 12 years, specialized in the care of teens as a physician with the Middlebury Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine. She has enjoyed that experience, but has also wanted to interact with youths in a venue not confined to short, clinical visits. When she heard of a vacancy in the MUHS health program (brought on by the recent retirement of longtime teacher Peter Ryersbach), Holmes decided to apply for the post. She landed the position and took her place among the rest of the MUHS faculty last week when classes got under way for the 2008-2009 school year.
Holmes, 42, will officially leave Middlebury Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine on Nov. 1. Until then, she will work mornings at the practice and afternoons at MUHS teaching a health literacy course. Deb Karpak is the leader of the program.
"The way I see it, this is a course in teaching decision making," Holmes said. "It's what you need to know about your body and your mental health to make good decisions."
Course material will touch upon alcohol, drugs, sexuality, personal health and media literacy, among other things.
"The fun challenge for me will be to make it more relevant for the older students," Holmes said, noting a substantial number of juniors and seniors who will need to take this course this year.
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The Winnipeg Jets began "The Homestand" on Nov. 29. They had 13 of 15 games at home and they needed to grab at least 20 of 26 possible points at MTS Centre.
It was a simple assignment, but it did not come without a certain degree of difficulty. Especially after the Jets lost the first game at home in late November, 6-4, to Ottawa.
So along comes December. The Jets had 12 of 14 games at home in the month and the team had to make some noise. After all, come January, the Jets will play 12 of 16 away from MTS Centre – 15 of their next 21 away from home — and if they didn't make some hay in December, they could end up a long way from the playoffs come the middle of February. It was win in December and then try to keep the ship together.
Saturday night, the Jets did what they had to do. With a 3-2 victory over the slumping Toronto Maple Leafs, the Jets finished the month of December with a record of 10-3-1 — that's 21 of a possible 28 points. They were 9-2-1 at home — 19 of a possible 24 points. They started the month 9-11-4 and in 12th place in the East. They finished at 19-14-5, tied for sixth in the East. In mid-November, the Jets trailed Toronto by 12 points. Saturday night, they moved two points ahead of the Leafs.
In a nutshell, it was mission accomplished.
So how did the Jets go from 9-11-4 to 19-14-5? Five reasons:
1. Ondrej Pavelec and Chris Mason: The Jets goaltenders had some tremendous games during the stretch. Even in a 3-2 shootout loss to the Islanders, Pavelec stole the point. In fact, other than the ugly 7-1 loss in Detroit, which was nothing more than a blip on the screen, Pavelec made the Jets a better team. Mason pitched in with two big wins – a huge 1-0 overtime victory against Los Angeles was his doing almost single-handedly – and is now 5-2-0 on the season. It was Brian Burke who said, "We call it the Stanley Cup playoffs because we can't call it goalie." You could paraphrase that and say. "We call it the Winnipeg Jets 2011-12 season because we can't call it goalie." The Jets have moved from 12th to sixth because their goaltender stole at least five games and at least 11 points.
2. All hands on deck. The Jets leading scorer, Evander Kane, has 18 goals and 11 assists and is 57th in scoring in the NHL. However, it doesn't matter. Regardless of the game, it seems that somebody always steps up. If it's not Bryan Little, it's Andrew Ladd or it's Blake Wheeler. The Jets have a potential superstar in Kane, but he's not there yet. Right now this team is scoring by committee and for the time being, at least, it's working. However, on or before the traded deadline, the Jets are going to have to after some scoring or the playoff run will be short.
3. The Jets survived the loss of Tobias Enstrom. When he was injured, Enstrom was playing 25-32 minutes a game. He was not only a workhorse, he was the steadiest influence on the team. When he went down, the Jets were a 12th place team. When he came back they were 11th, but had gained three points on the teams in the Top 8. It could have been a lot worse and with him back, the Jets not only have a full compliment of NHL-level defensemen, but they've won three straight games since Dustin Byfulgien was injured (more about that in a future post).
4. Claude Noel. He is a journalist's dream, an eccentric, insightful, talkative head coach who is NOT afraid to say what's on his mind. His post-game stream-of-consciousness news conferences are becoming the highlight of every game. He has made, what have appeared to be some strange moves at times, but it's impossible to criticize any of them. The Jets started the season as a 12th place team heading directly toward 12th place. Today they are a sixth place team with at least a playoff hope heading into the January-February road wars. Noel has had a great deal to do with that.
5. The crowd at MTS Centre. No wonder these Jets don't play as well on the road. The home crowd in Winnipeg is a phenomenon. The 15,004 who show up inside the tiny boutique arena in downtown Winnipeg (and make no mistake, every seat is taken) every single night start screaming before the game and don't stop until their beloved Jets salute them from centre ice after the final buzzer. Long-time Alberta journalist Bruce Penton compared it to a British soccer crowd. "They don't get tired," he said. "It's just relentless." And despite that lousy little excuse after a 5-1 season–opening loss to the Montreal Canadiens, the Jets have warmed to the crowd. They love it. They live for it and if there can actually be a "seventh man" he/she lives in Winnipeg.
These Jets are by no means a playoff-bound team. But they grabbed a hold of their December homestand and skated with it. Now, with January upon us, we'll really get to see how good they are.


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- Point Isabel/Marina Bay
Located in Richmond, Point Isabel/Marina Bay can be a great place to kite when conditions are good. Generally speaking, Summer to Fall provide the best conditions with winds ranging from 10-30 knots mostly onshore. It is not a suitable location for beginners as a confined launch surrounded by rocks and turbulent winds create hazardous situations during launching and landing. Depending on the tides, waterstarts can be a bit tricky as your ability to get out in the water to start may be limited and starting requires sending the kite down over the rocks. As with many sites, if you for any reason doubt your confidence in safely launching and landing in a confined rocky area, handling your kite precisely, getting out on the water fast and staying upwind, don't kite here! In addition, fisherman do frequent the small beach, so give them the right-of-way and all due courtesy. Above and along the small beach is a section the Bay Trail which is frequented by joggers, walkers, families and children. Ensure that your activity does not inadvertently involve them in any way.
Once out on the water, you'll need to decide if you're heading upwind toward the ships and the channel or out and around Brooks Island to the left, as the area in front of the launch is the wind shadow of Brooks Island, resulting in weaker and often turbulent winds. Left and south of the island offers strong, steady wind and some nice ramps and chop all the way toward the Albany Bulb and Berkeley. Upwind into the channel requires some effort to get to, but can reward you with smooth water as the low, end of the island can smooth things out. If you do kite upwind to the channel, do not encroach on the protected bird nesting grounds at the east end of the cove.
If the fog comes rolling in, conditions can quickly become very gusty and turbulent so be aware. Also if you become overpowered, you may want to consider two other and safer landing options depending on where you are, rather than attempting to come in at the main beach launch. If you have been kiting upwind, you may want to consider coming in at the upper beach on the other side of the breakwater jetty as the beach is much larger, or if you are downwind there's an even larger beach at the east end after the rocks end. As with many locations, consider all the hazards and conditions and what your plan will be if you become overpowered or experience equipment failure.


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Adjustable Anti-Sway System! (I know what you where thinking)
One of the things I love about joining HF is I now spend more time thinking about splicing, rigging, suspension ect in work (and out) than I do about actual work. Not a bad thing.
Inspired by a suspension system I seen on here- where the spreader bars where secured to the ground (or the bottom of the tree?) using lengths of cord in a 'V' formation,
it got me thinking about two things. A- Would a ridge-line benefit the RR, and B- Could it serve more purpose than just controlling the amount of sag that a ridge-line
would normally undertake.
Armed with the day off, two UCR's previously made in an attempt at ubler light hammock suspension (fail) a dutch oven full of cassoulet, roll of 1.5mm dyneema
and a friend that also wanted a day/night in the woods to go over kit, off we went.
First things first, ridge-line.
This was adjusted inwards until a negative effect was felt (noticeable sag, defeating the RR concept of a flat lay) and then dialed back out slightly to my preferred 'sweet spot'
Ridge-lines do work with the RR as there was still a slight change in angle at the connection point.
Handy for now adding a ridge-line organizer for when the bug net is stowed, or a support when deployed,
connecting/shortening the mesh shock cord lifts for the net or whatever you wish really, not to mention
a consistent 'flat' lay how you like it. Two mini krabs held no probs (I'm 210lb) so there's no reason you could not
simply unclip it and stow when packing up if you did not want to fix it.
All good so far. Mine measured 138 inches once set.
Next up was to tie adjustable support lines down under slight tension from the ridge-line to see what effect (if any) they would have with the stability
of the hammock. It was interesting to find this instantly removed the slight 'tippy' feeling that happens generally moving around.
The supports wont stop you falling out or extreme movement shifts, but they made a very noticeable difference with the general lay of the hammock from lateral movement.
View from inside-
Well, the concept worked and the rig was split down once measurements taken with the rest of the afternoon/evening enjoying good food,
beer and company. The following day at home, it was time to make Gen-2.
Every contact point has a minature whoopie with a 3' constrictor so there's a degree of adjustment. Support lines fixed with a clove hitch at the ridge.
This adjustment is needed for Gen-3, where rig will be single line suspension as such, with small steel rings at the apex ends of the main ridge-line,
a modification to the amsteel 'V' length (which will become dynaglide) and one or two other bits such as dynglide whoopies.
The mini krabs will be replaced with soft shackles so everything can be removed if need be and with the removal of nearly all the shock cord from the net lifting system,
Its added no more than 2-3 grams to the original system after the reduction in shock cord..
Once the Dynaglide gets here, It should hopefully be 10-20 grams under original weight and much more stable. it will also be single line into the doors of the Superfly.
To be replaced with a few inches 2mm shock cord and a fixed eye in the ridge line.
Micro soft shackles. Less than 1gm each.
I hope this was of some use to the RR owners out there. Food for thought!
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Livia Firth's Green Carpet Challenge has received the royal seal of approval. In a letter read by Firth at the launch of "The Green Cut" at London Fashion Week in September, Prince Charles praised the initiative for bringing the British Fashion Council and the British Film Institute "under the banner of sustainability." The GCC is particularly heartening because of its "uncanny ability to show that living in harmony with the environment and respecting nature can go hand-in-hand with the most beautiful clothes," wrote the Prince of Wales. "After all, it's only by inspiring people that a sustainable future is not about sackcloth and ashes, but is about attaining an infinitely more balanced approach to life that works in harmony in nature once again, that we will stand a chance of securing a stable environment for our children and grandchildren."
His Royal Highness is good for more than a sound byte, however. As the patron of the Campaign for Wool, the organizer of Wool Weeks across the globe, Prince Charles has been a vocal proponent of heritage and craftsmanship in clothing.
Clothes, according to Prince Charles, have to combine style with sustainability.
Clothes, according to Prince Charles, have to combine style with sustainability.
"For me, one reason is that quite apart from it being wonderful to wear, such crafts-men and -women offer products with excellent durability," he told British GQ in July, not long after he was voted one of the magazine's best-dressed men. "Given the demands of my life, it is a great help if a suit looks as good at the end of a day as it did at the start; and it also has to withstand the heavy battering it can sometimes receive. So the challenge to tailors, shirt- and shoe-makers is a tough one."
Clothes, he said, have to combine style with sustainability. "I find British-made tailoring more than meets that challenge—much to the amusement of my staff, who are sometimes surprised to find that what I am wearing turns out to be as old as or even older than they are," he added.


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MOUT/CQB tactics for those scenarios and games
I am also on SpecOps and X7OG and this type of conversation was brought up in a similar thread there. One member on X7OG (Damifino) recognized me and PMd me that I should also post up/share information for you guys as well. So here I am with that information and welcome others to participate in sharing the wealth of knowledge that forums are great for.
Some (or many) may know that I am SRT in a prison. These are some of the tactics we use (but understand that I'll never fully divulge exactly what we do for our security reasons) and are general knowledge.
The basic premise of any tactical maneuver relies on two things:
1. Completion of the objective
2. Minimize (Eliminate our) casualties
How that is achieved is:
A. Training
B. Adherence to orders (aka "the plan")
C. Communication
D. Unity (fluid movements of a Team with purpose)
E. Anticipation of unknowns.
We aren't talking real-world scenarios here. We are going to apply this to paintball. The completion of the objective is "the greatest goal" in that game. For some, it's a flag station and others, total elimination. For large scale events like the 2 DDAY games (1 each in PA and OK), those objectives are broken down into different segments for the overall objective...to gain the total win of the game.
2. Minimize (eliminate our) casualties
It's a game and yu can NEVER eliminate your team losses in paintball. That means, you have to minimize your losses. In that respect, training with your team MEANS WORLDS to your success and whatever mission your team draws. To accomplish this, you need to VARY your outlooks on objectives, opposing force numbers and the tactics for that particular terrain.
For this, I will concentrate on indoor (or outdoor) room clearing techniques because let's face it - many fields are building town-like structures that require more than over gunning a mass of opposition.
A.) Your team must constantly train, whether or not you have paint/air at the time. Simply going over movement techniques (wearing ALL your gear), learning communication and HOW to attack a room-structure can advance your side greatly. You must learn to trust one another and each must know every other member's role. This eliminates "cross-rolling" in a particular assault.
B.) If you don't adhere to orders, you will cost your team greatly. There's a reason a plan is in effect - so others in support of you know what you are doing. Deviate from that plan and they have NO clue what you are up to.
C.) Communication between team members and side Commanders is paramount. No one here is a mind reader.
D.) Unity comes from A.) and constant training. It is imperative that everyone knows the other players, their roles and movements.
E.) Anticipation of unknowns is pretty much self explanatory. You have to learn to make allowances for any unknown factor and playing "whatif?" games helps to accomplish that. Simply testing your own mind to say "what if _________ happens?" and coming up with an answer can mean volumes to yur success. This MUST be shared during your training sessions with the others in your team.
On to some movements:
Room entry hot spots The areas are color coded to represent immediate threat level. The green represents the first areas seen by the team members and the red represents the area seen LAST by a team.
Angles of assault in a stack (Room Sweep) This must be done QUICKLY...almost to where the 4 team members need to get into the doorway at the same time. What we do at the prison, can't always be done in a paintball situation. We have huge doorways where a CQB course may not. That being the case, you might only be able to get 2 in at a time so that means the team of 4 has to enter in two separate pairs but in under a second in total time.
Clearing hallways, you either use a "lateral support" assault style, where there are two rows of players along the walls and a point man in the center front...or a diamond wedge. I did not depict the diamond wedge because it does not work all that well. It's used for long hallways without peripheral objectives (rooms off to the side) so I left that out. That point man identifies all openings or breeches in structure and directs that info to the lateral support behind him. There's also a rear guard that watches your 6.
In this depiction, the left lateral line engages the room. The point and rear guard concentrate on the hallway and the right lateral line stands at the ready to replace an eliminated team mate. The color coding for the right line means little in this case, but they need to know the role of the left line person who was eliminated so they know where to "fill in."
For a right side room assault, the same teory applies but in reverse.
If there's a doorway on the left, let's say, the point man uses his left hand to point to the open doorway well in advance of reaching it. The unit still moves as one. The left line clears that room while the right line and point man cover the hallway. If you team is made of say 10 players, you have
1 Point man
2 columns of 4, each left and right side
1 rear guard
in the scenario I described above of clearing a door/room on the left side, the left line enters the room. We will number the players in-line to make things easier...
1 enters doorway and sweeps right
2 enters room and sweeps center right
3 and 4 sweep center left and left respectively.
This has to be done FAST.boomboomboomboom. Think 'shock troop'
The first pic I posted tells you your hottest zones in relation to how a door opens.
Green, yellow, orange, red is the color scheme I used to indicate areas cleared as your vision acquires it. Green is immediate, yellow is next, orange after that and red is last. Red is the worst enemy location for an assaulting team because an opponent in the red zone will get the most eliminations before he himself is eliminated by the entering team.
Hallways, corridors and streets. Some new field creations add the 3rd dimension of elevated structures or muli-story buildings on either or both sides of the street. The picture below is designed for that street, providing a means for players to defend from threats above.
This is the "Wedge" I spoke of earlier. As you can see, it's a "V" pointed in the direction of travel. The point man concentrates on street-level threats directly in front of him and 2/3 (blue) concentrate on threats to the sides of him. 4/5 concentrate on elevated threats on their respective sides of the engagement area and 6/7 concentrate on the rear in a cross-fire manner. The reason for this is so that they can keep a better eye on the wedge "behind" them and still provide rear support for the team.
Anyone and everyone may feel free to copy my renderings. If/when asked about it, please remember to use my name as it's creator. Thanks.
Add your knowledge and experiences as well. If you can post pics, do so. Visual aids are easiest to understand.
Re: MOUT/CQB tactics for those scenarios and games
hmmm, interesting. what about the use of smoke/paint grenades.
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thanks for posting this :thumbsup: you did a good job too, will be very helpful for cqb. once again, nice job druid
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good point about the smoke grenades.
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Financials from three equipment manufacturers that show increases in 2010 sales don't necessarily mean all is back to the good old days, says Stephen Tharrett, president of Club Industry Consulting, Highland Village, TX.
Life Fitness had a 9 percent increase in sales, Precor had a 6 percent increase and Johnson Health Tech, the parent company of Matrix, saw a 25 percent rise in North American sales.
"While these early reports indicate an uptick in sales, they must also be considered in light of the significant sales drops experienced by the majority of manufacturers in 2009, some of 30 percent or more," Tharrett says. "As a result, while the 2010 trends are definitely favorable, they still reflect sales levels below the peak periods from the middle of the last decade."
Other suppliers had difficult times in 2010. Tharrett points to Star Trac's restructuring and Cybex's $66 million loss in a legal claim.
Bryan O'Rourke, co-founder of consulting company Integerus LLC, agrees that Star Trac's financial challenges, in particular, probably helped some of the other manufacturers.
"I expect, however, that as Star Trac recovers its footing, the numbers for both Life Fitness and Matrix may be subdued somewhat in the future," O'Rourke says.
Cybex had not released its fourth quarter 2010 financials as of March 1, 2011. The speculation is that Cybex has yet to determine how best to account for the $66 million claim, which would be a liability on their balance sheet—one that will eventually need to be written off if Cybex does not win its appeal.
"In 2011 we should see the larger companies experience continued growth, though at a slower pace than in the past," Tharrett says. "With the oversupply of clubs in some markets and reduced spending by most operators, including a considerable slowdown in new store development, we can expect that growth in fitness equipment sales will continue to be a slow climb back to pre-recession levels."
O'Rourke is a bit more optimistic about club growth and spending, saying, "Expansion among a number of chains is planned for 2011, so I anticipate that numbers will continue to improve."
Tharrett warns of manufacturer consolidation, saying that the industry is oversupplied by manufacturers. He also expects product advancements from leading manufacturers, which may cause smaller players to leave the business due to low demand for their products.


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New Jersey moved to end gasoline rationing on Tuesday, but the impact of Superstorm Sandy on the East Coast refining sector remains.
Sure, drivers and homeowners were snatching up all the gasoline they could find to fuel their cars and generators during the power blackouts that last more than a week in many areas. But on the whole, refiners sold much less gasoline than they normally would because so many stations were closed, putting a dent in the massive fuel market in the Northeast.
The blackouts not only affected gas stations, but the massive infrastructure for delivering fuel to markets on the wholesale level.
That\'s sending a bit of a warning alarm on Wall Street, with Deutsche Bank analyst Paul Sankey pointing out that Sandy dealt a body blow to the Northeast\'s role as a consumer of a hefty 6% in global oil demand and 27% of U.S. oil demand.
\"We are deeply concerned about weather and related shortage impacts on Northeast oil markets,\" Sankey said in a note released Monday. \"The scale of power-related outages post-Sandy has surprised us….We believe that consumers will absolutely minimize discretionary driving and stay cautious in storms right as we enter holiday travel planning season.\"
Citing in part the impact of the storm, Sankey cut his ratings on Marathon Petroleum Corp. and Phillips 66 to neutral from buy.
Sankey estimated that Sandy may cause a 10% dent in East Coast oil demand — at least.
\"It would not be unreasonable…to assume a 20% decline in demand for two quarters,\" he said. While the long-term view for U.S. refiners remains strong, Sankey said in the short term, \"we see enormous headwinds from what we expect to be a major downturn in Northeastern oil demand on the massive disruption and confidence damage done by Sandy. We think demand destruction is likely to be far bigger than is currently discounted by the market.\"
Phillips 66\'s big Bayway refinery in New Jersey is still knocked out, with a restart not expected for weeks.
While gas lines may soon be a memory to drivers in the region, Sandy continues to leave a reap havoc in the refining sector.
— Steve Gelsi
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by Mike Masnick
Tue, Feb 28th 2012 2:37pm
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We've said it a bunch of times here in the past when describing the life cycles of tech companies: when you're young, you innovate. When you're old, you litigate. We've seen it time and time again. The big tech companies that are no longer innovating and are far removed from their former position as major players in the market, make one last grasp at relevance by breaking out their patent portfolio and beginning to sue. The latest to take this death knell step appears to be Yahoo, which is threatening to sue Facebook for patent infringement. This may be a sad end to the legacy of Yahoo -- a once innovative company that has made pretty much all the wrong moves over the last half-decade or so, that is now left to snipe at those more innovative and nimble.
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silverscarcat (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 2:43pmSo sad, Yahoo...
First you lost out to Google with the search engines...
Then you killed Geocities...
Now this?
I'm all nostalgic for Geocities now.
I'm sad. :(
:Lobo Santo (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 2:47pm
Re: GeocitiesHere ya go: Makes any page look like an old geocities page.
Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 2:50pm
GMacGuffin (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 2:55pm
Re: Re: GeocitiesNow that's handy. Couldn't read any text, but there are lots of crazy colors and fonts! Yay!
I will add this link to my list of nostalgic indulgences (e.g., Big Macs, Zingers, DOS commands, frames).
Re: Re: GeocitiesOkay is funny, that thing is spot on!
Re: Re: Re: Geocities**that is
Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:08pm
Re:"I'm all nostalgic for Geocities now."
Then use Yahoo.jp, Geocities are still very much in use over there.
Gracey (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 4:53pm
Re:geeze. Yahoo didn't kill geocities. The users with those horrendous web designs killed geocities.
Loki, 28 Feb 2012 @ 8:39pm
Re: Re:"Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it".
See MySpace
fb39ca4, 28 Feb 2012 @ 2:53pmYahoo is the new AOL.
eric e johnson, 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:04pm
blame patents, not yahooThere is only one thing a patent does. It allows you to sue people. That's all patents have ever done.
Blame patents, not Yahoo.
Beta (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:09pm
Re: blame patents, not yahooEmphasis on allows. Blame Yahoo.
Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:11pm
Re: blame patents, not yahooWe do but we also blame the people who use patents in this manner. You just said "Guns allow you to shoot things. Don't blame murderers blame guns."
illuminaut (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 4:07pm
Re: Re: blame patents, not yahooThat analogy doesn't quite hold up since patents are weapons that are used lawfully. So by changing the laws you can actually take away the weapons. Try that with guns.
ltlw0lf (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 9:38pm
Re: Re: Re: blame patents, not yahooThat analogy doesn't quite hold up since patents are weapons that are used lawfully. So by changing the laws you can actually take away the weapons. Try that with guns.
Huh? I use guns lawfully. A lot of people do the same. Ever been to a rifle range or a shooting range? Just because someone shoots a gun doesn't necessarily mean that they have committed a crime. If they shoot at someone, yes, but if they shoot down range at harmless pieces of paper, nope...not usually.
illuminaut (profile), 29 Feb 2012 @ 3:01pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: blame patents, not yahooYou misunderstood. I was saying that you can't keep guns away from criminals but you can keep patents away from corporations since they actually have to follow the law.
ltlw0lf (profile), 29 Feb 2012 @ 6:29pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: blame patents, not yahooYou misunderstood. I was saying that you can't keep guns away from criminals but you can keep patents away from corporations since they actually have to follow the law.
Yup. I've got an itchy trigger finger when it comes to the 2nd amendment. Re-reading what you said, I misunderstood.
Though it is kinda interesting that some states are doing everything in their power to limit the 2nd amendment even though, as you say (and I agree,) you can't keep guns away from criminals.
jig, 28 Feb 2012 @ 5:26pm
Re: blame patents, not yahooYou sir are an ass clown
Beta (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:17pm
experimentI'd love to plot some curves for these companies, especially total salary paid to engineers, lawyers and executives over time, along with quarterly earnings and indicators for initiating patent lawsuits.
Am I leaving anything out? Political contributions? HQ building size? Stock price?
Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:20pmWhat is truly sad is that the comments on the article on ZDnet appear to think that criticism indicates facebook fanboyishness.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/yahoo-threatens-facebook-with-patent-war/9588?t ag=mantle_skin;content
But then the fanboy accusation gets thrown around on ZDnet in much the same way as gay gets thrown around in an elementary school playground and apparently by people at or about the same stage of development.
Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:25pm
As someone who despises both Yahoo and Facebook.....I'm entirely in favor of this. Well, provided it becomes an all-consuming fight that uses up all their resources and leaves them both empty shells of their former selves. I will be very disappointed if this ends quickly and amicably.
Doug B (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:35pmThere was never a point in time that I thought yahoo was innovative. The website annoyed me from the first time I happened across it. I still don't understand how it ever gained the users it did.
illuminaut (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:58pm
Re:Their development resources including the YUI library used to be cutting edge. That's pretty much it already, tho.
PlagueSD (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:41pmIs it me, or is this just coincidence that this is happening soon after Facebook announced it was going public.
stever, 28 Feb 2012 @ 5:25pm
Patents Patents and more PatentsThe thing I love most about these fights is that the idea that may have been copied is not central to the product or even slightly important. Apples protecting the touch slider to open concept for example. As such you have to condem such actions as being vexatious, and little more than a desparate grab for money. However if the things are not like that (chances are that they are though) then go Yahoo. We really dont want the term copyright to become a copy it right mentality.
Shmerl, 28 Feb 2012 @ 7:35pmYahoo became a patent troll? Time to go for them then. They were respected before, but this behavior is unacceptable.
Loki, 28 Feb 2012 @ 8:56pmActually this could become a self-correcting problem. Eventually the "right" people are likely to take note of the innovate-to-litigate phenomena as a sign a company is dying and the minute they start patent trolling their stock will tank faster than Congress's approval ratings.
All it would take is a maybe 2-3 companies to bottom out like that and see how hesitant the rest get to unzipper those patent portfolios and wave them around.
Webster Phreaky, 28 Feb 2012 @ 9:49pm
WHO'S THE REAL TROLLS???HOW COME WHEN IT'S GREEDY BASTARDS CrAPPLE SUING EVERYONE THEY'RE NOT TROLLS, but when it's Yahoo!! they are???
You're F*&KING HYPOCRITES! YOU ARE THE TROLLS!!
Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 9:50pm
Re: WHO'S THE REAL TROLLS???Is there no longer an app for reading comprehension?
Vincent Clement, 29 Feb 2012 @ 4:22am
Re: WHO'S THE REAL TROLLS???Apple is a hybrid troll. A successful company that uses patents to increase the cost of doing business for it's competitors.
Tim K (profile), 29 Feb 2012 @ 5:41am
Re: WHO'S THE REAL TROLLS???Who said apple wasn't a troll? They can be a troll and still innovate, but yahoo is lacking the innovation part.
Some Other AC (profile), 29 Feb 2012 @ 7:59am
Re: WHO'S THE REAL TROLLS???You sir, need serious anger management work. Please read both this article and the many others on this site.
"The big tech companies that are no longer innovating and are far removed from their former position as major players in the market, make one last grasp at relevance by breaking out their patent portfolio and beginning to sue."
This statement alone calls out numerous companies that have taken this same path.
while Im at it, 29 Feb 2012 @ 1:30pm
Here's to hopingboth of these companies sue each other into oblivion.


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