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The Year of Magical Stinking: An Oral History of Tebow Time
Not even Jesus can save his passing game, and yet Tim Tebow somehow dominated the league last season, captivating Denver and much of this God-fearing nation with his messianic confidence and fourth-quarter miracle work. Michael Silver talks to the kid's coaches, teammates, and opponents and asks them: How did he do that, and will it ever happen again?
The moment when I first got religion on Tim Tebow, I was holding a blue tortilla chip about two feet from my mouth. I held it there so long that the pico de gallo eventually dislodged itself, plummeting onto the leg of my jeans. I barely noticed. The world was flatter than the TV screen a few yards in front of me, and all logic had just gone over the edge.
Sitting in the press lounge at Cowboys Stadium, where I had come to cover a mid-December game, I was witnessing the latest Tebow miracle play out with scores of my thoroughly entertained peers. Tebow, as usual, had been Ryan Leaf- atrocious for most of the game before leading the Denver Broncos to a late touchdown, cutting the Chicago Bears' lead to 10-7. All the Bears had to do was not trip on their dicks and it was over. And then, on cue, halfback Marion Barber brain-locked and ran out of bounds, giving Tebow enough wiggle room for another insane comeback, this one featuring two fifty-plus field goals by Matt Prater. Tebow wins—again!—continuing a trend that none of the players, coaches, front-office ecutives, or other football insiders with whom I constantly communicate even pretended to understand.
Never before has an NFL player's success been so simultaneously polarizing, perplexing, and captivating. From the billboard that went up in Denver last September calling for Tebow to start, to the brilliant Saturday Night Live sketch that lampooned his over-the-top Christianity, to the evangelically euphoric victory lap he took after shredding the league's top defense in a playoff victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers, Tebow hijacked a season and messed with football's finest minds. More than a dozen of them weigh in here, as we attempt to make sense of the ongoing conundrum known as Tebowmania.
Trent Dilfer _(ESPN analyst and former NFL QB): _The Tebow story has been the most dominant story since I've been announcing. Every conversation goes to this subject. It's unavoidable.
John Fox _(head coach, Denver Broncos): _The minute you meet him, he has that presence. I went and met him for dinner during the draft process down in Gainesville. He's got a notebook, and he's into it. He just likes talking ball. And he picked up the tab—I've never had that happen before.
Brady Quinn (backup QB, Denver Broncos): Early in the season, there was a game when Kyle [Orton] got hurt and the coaches were calling for me to go in, but Kyle got up and finished the game out. So I was the second-string guy. Then, a few weeks later, they decided to put Tim in. I felt like the fans had a lot to do with that. Just 'cause they were chanting his name. There was a big calling for him. No, I didn't have any billboards. That would have been nice.
Week 7: Broncos 18, Dolphins 15
*Tebow doesn't love the pocket, but he sure didn't mind it
against Pittsburgh.*
_Tebow gets first start of the season, is breathtakingly inept for nearly fifty-five minutes. Then, down 15-0 with 5:23 remaining, he engineers comeback, throws two TD passes. Broncos win in OT. _
Fox: He's a very fiery competitor. I call it competitive greatness.
Jim Schwartz _(head coach, Detroit Lions): _Miami did a really good job of holding him down. And then, late in the game, they got into the "Hey, we're going to play the clock" kind of thing. Tebow was able to get the Broncos back in the game and tie it up. In overtime, Miami went back to doing what they'd been doing, but it was too late.
D'Qwell Jackson _(linebacker, Cleveland Browns): _My first impression was, hell, I couldn't believe it. When you look at the stat line, it's like, okay, you made a great play, but it's not gonna last.
Week 8: Lions 45, Broncos 10
It doesn't last. Tebow constantly harassed by Lions pass rush; sacked seven times.
John Elway (ecutive vice president, Denver Broncos): He played three games [as a rookie], and then there's a new system and a lockout. No off-season! So you're talking about a new situation—essentially a rookie quarterback, and he gets a good football team. The Lions just smothered him.
Dilfer: They did something I'm shocked other teams haven't done—they attacked Tebow. They didn't attack the running game. They attacked Tebow.
Terrell Suggs_ (outside linebacker, Baltimore Ravens): _They say we were giving him a hard time because he's a Christian. No, that's not it! We were giving him a hard time because he was terrible. Fox: Part of coaching is putting guys in position to succeed. After the Detroit game, we had a [coaches] meeting and said, "Listen, we didn't play very well. How can we help them? What can we do?"
Weeks 9 and 10: The Streak Begins
Tebow piles 118 rushing yards on top of his two TD passes in 38-24 victory against Raiders; a week later, completes only two passes (!) against Chiefs but ekes out 17-10 win as Broncos run fifty-five times.
Kurt Warner (NFL Network analyst and former Rams, Giants, and Cardinals QB): A huge part of the credit goes to Coach Fox and that staff to say, "Hey, this is who we've got. We think we can win with him, but we can't win the way we've been playing." From what I understand, a huge part of that was listening to Tim and saying, "Okay, Tim, teach us. Tell us what you're good at. Let's try to cater the offense around that." And you don't find that very often, especially in an ego-driven league like ours.
Fox: The spread option can be tough. Like most of us in the NFL—when I say "us," I'm talking about coaches, especially defensive-minded coaches—I had to deal with the option when I coached in college. And one of the nice things about pro ball is that you don't have to deal with that anymore.
Quinn: The entire game, the defensive line is chasing the quarterback around, and that wears down the pass rush. Meanwhile, the defensive backs are chasing receivers, but you only throw eight passes, so they start to feel lazy. It only takes that one play, that one big pass, for a touchdown.
Week 11: Broncos 17, Jets 13
Jets slop around but maintain upper hand until Tebow caps late-fourth-quarter drive (that begins at his own five) with twenty-yard game-winning TD run. Dilfer: He took advantage of a really bad blitz by, what's his name, [Eric] Smith. That blitz is designed to keep the quarterback from getting the edge. It's called a casino blitz: You're all in. Tim felt it early and beat them around the edge.
Suggs: I couldn't believe my eyes. Somebody has to make a play, and nobody made a play.
Thomas Dimitroff_ (general manager, Atlanta Falcons):_ I think a lot of people around the league assumed, okay, when top-notch defensive-minded coaches like Rex Ryan came in there, [Tebow's win streak] was gonna come to a quick end. And it didn't. At that point, our entire league was truly back on our heels, thinking, Wow! This is for real now!
Warner: I'm more of a purist, a drop-back passer, and there were times that it was almost difficult to watch. Like, this isn't supposed to be happening, and I don't know how to filter it through my brain.
Week 12: Broncos 16, Chargers 13
_Tebow, pregame: "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Broncos mount hard-won comeback to force game into OT; Chargers kicker blows OT field-goal attempt; Broncos hit theirs. _
Fox: Yeah, he ran it twenty-two times. Well, I don't want to do that forever! I don't care who you are. Tim will say different, but it takes its toll.
Von Miller _(linebacker, Denver Broncos): _He keeps his body in great shape. He's a strong guy. He's incredible in the weight room. It's just, "What's next? What's next?" With his mentality, there's no surrender. He gets his body prepared for those type of hits, and I don't think it's the guys that hit him, I think it's him hitting the guys.
Dilfer: It's very similar to how defenses play Roethlisberger. Ben and Tebow, they're so big and strong, they're so physical, that it definitely gets into the heads of the defense at the moment of truth. There's some hesitation in how they bring him down.
Week 13: Broncos 35, Vikings 32
Tebow throws for 202 yards, including two TDs; Broncos kicker Matt Prater hits FG with 1:33 remaining to pull even; Vikings throw interception on next play from scrimmage; Prater splits game winner through uprights as time expires.
*Tebowing, from sea to shining sea. You know you've
arrived when you've got your own nation-sweeping pose.*
Jared Allen (defensive end, Minnesota Vikings): We decided not to cover anybody in that game, so we left guys wide-open for him to hit, which sucked. It can lull you to sleep, where you're just thinking, "We can stop the run. We can stop Tebow." But you know, it's still the NFL. You don't need to be Tom Brady to hit a wide-open guy.
Dilfer: They're sitting back going, "Okay, it's a running-back run. No, it's a quarterback run. Oh, it's a pass! Okay, he won't complete it. Oh, he did! Our coaches told us he couldn't do it! He just did it!" What you see on film is, you don't see him getting rushed. Defenders were beating the right guard and then would stop, because they didn't want to run past Tebow and let him run. They just said, "Give him all the time in the world. He's not gonna find the receiver."
Allen: You can still see that child mentality in him. He just has that grin on his face, and he's out there playing ball. We were talking about sacks, and he said, "You got lucky I fumbled that." I told him, "You got lucky that everybody's been wide-open!" He just laughed.
Warner: I definitely think there's an aspect to the other side saying, "Okay, we're gonna blow this team out, and we're not gonna give them a chance for Tebow Time." And then you find yourself in the fourth quarter, and they're still within striking distance. The other team's going, "Oh, my gosh. Here we go."
Allen: You know what the coolest part about the whole thing is? And the reason people hate it? Because it's showing that the conventional wisdom of coaches isn't really necessary. You know, coaches always think they have the winning theory: "Our way is the right way! Blah blah blah!" Well, here's a dude that they basically had to scrap the whole offense for and go back to running a college [system]. And they have been successful with it. Sometimes people think the game is more difficult than it is. If you find something that works, go with it. And I don't really think it has to be a nine-syllable frickin' play.
Week 14: Broncos 13, Bears 10
Bears have the ball, up 10-7 with 2:08 left in the fourth; Broncos get ball back, hit fifty-nine-yard FG to send game into OT and fifty-one-yarder to win it. Tebow, postgame: "If you believe, then unbelievable things can sometimes be possible."
Elway: To win football games, you've gotta have good things happen to you—but when you believe they're gonna happen, then good things usually do happen. That's where he's been such a positive factor. It's changed the mind-set.
Miller: I mean, you could just see our team's resiliency in action. Nobody was giving up.
Quinn: We've had a lot of, I guess, luck, to put it simply.
Warner: Being a faithful man and knowing where he stands at this stage, it was almost like divine intervention. It almost seemed tangible. It was just like, Oh, my goodness! Can you believe this? It can't happen again, can it?
Dilfer: I don't have a problem with what Tim Tebow's doing with [his outspoken Christianity]. I've seen him try to articulate why he has the belief and why he believes the things he does, in a very easy way to understand. He's not the guy, when the cameras are put in his face, saying, you know, "Praise to God, because he supernaturally let that ball hit my receiver!" You know what I mean? But he's up-front with it, and he makes many people uncomfortable. I do have a problem with what the Christian community is doing with his faith, that they are almost becoming a cult following. I think it's an "us" problem, not a "him" problem.
Nick Barnett (linebacker, Buffalo Bills): I think it does rub some of the guys the wrong way. For a lot of Christians, using football as a measuring stick of how good God is—it's not necessarily what you're supposed to be doing.
Quinn: If you look at it as a whole, there's a lot of things that just don't seem very humble to me. When I get that opportunity, I'll continue to lead not necessarily by trying to get in front of the camera and praying but by praying with my teammates, you know?
Weeks 15-17: The Skid
Tebow puts up decent numbers against Patriots, including two rushing TDs, but Denver loses 41-23. Broncos then lose two more to end regular season—a 40-14 dismantling at Buffalo and unwatchable 7-3 pinnacle-of-suck loss to Kansas City—and limp into playoffs. The Tebow backlash, already a low murmur in the league, explodes into the open.
Shawne Merriman (linebacker, Buffalo Bills): His teammates are making him look a lot better than he is.
Suggs: I mean, it's an insult to us players. You know, wins are hard to come by in this league, and if I was Denver's defense, I would feel a certain way—they're not allowed to [say it], 'cause they're all on one team, but people are making it look like Tim Tebow is the kid from Fooro—which, that couldn't be more opposite. It's just crazy that we're calling him a phenomenon when basically he's mediocre. Cam Newton's a way better quarterback than Tim Tebow, and we don't have a Cam Newton phenomenon.
Elway: The great plays that everyone goes, "Wow!"—we all know he's got that. You don't touch that. I get encouraged when I see him working within the system and throwing on time, with good feet. That, to me, is where he's getting better. Consistency and accuracy is gonna come when he gets consistent with his feet. It's like a pitcher: The front foot comes down on the same spot every single time. He's just never really worked on that.
Suggs: He went six for twenty-two for sixty yards [against the Chiefs]! That's terrible quarterbacking. Are you kidding me? No matter how many bad games Tim Tebow is gonna have, it's "He's great." I'll never understand it.
Merriman: No one has seen him actually take over a football game.
Suggs: If he wins the playoff game, I'll be very surprised. And I'll get off him. And I'll say, "I don't know what it is about him, but he does know how to win." But until he wins the playoff game, I'm not a believer.
Barnett: It's gonna end one of two ways—"I told you so" or "Tebow did it."
** Ecstasy on Wild Card Weekend, Agony in New England**
Before being dominated and outclassed in season-ending loss to Patriots, Tebow figuratively flips off naysayers and delivers a monster game against Steelers: 316 passing yards, QB rating of 125.6, three TDs (two in the air, one on the ground). On first play from scrimmage in OT, Tebow hits Demaryius Thomas on routine over-the-middle pass that weirdly (miraculously?!) develops into eighty-yard game-winning TD. A few days later, ESPN poll names Tebow the most popular athlete in America.
*Will they still be cheering next year? *
Suggs: I'm shocked. Jaw is on the floor! He shocked us all.
Dilfer: The one thing he can do is throw the ball deep. I said it on draft day: Give him time; he can locate the deep ball. He did it against Alabama, he did it against LSU, he did it against every team he played. It's a slower-developing play. And he's always been very good at it.
Todd Haley (former head coach, Kansas City Chiefs): As we saw against the Patriots, it's obviously imperative that the game be close for him to work his magic. In the end, I'd say he was a winner who clearly got better as the year went on. He has one more playoff win than a lot of quarterbacks. It's hard to believe he will ever belong in the elite-passer category, but he's obviously a leader of men and a good football player—and you can never have enough of those.
Elway: He has changed the culture of that locker room. The way he handles his life, the way he is with people, the way he is with media—everybody wants to fight over what he is on the football field, but for the NFL, for the Denver Broncos, he's perfect. He's a great kid. You know, people want him to be successful. And so do I. Everybody in this building does, too. If he's the guy that can be our guy for ten, fifteen years, that's a hell of a deal for us.
Dilfer: The question Elway has to answer is "Are you all in on the offense Tim runs, or are you trying to get him to run a normal offense?" If the latter, he has a lot of work to do this off-season—and it's going to be very hard to achieve, in my opinion. If the former, you'd better get a backup who plays like Tebow. But I think there's a limit to how successful you can be.
Warner: To me, it's a biblical story. That's what the Bible's full of: ordinary guys who are able to accomplish extraordinary things, not by their own strength and might but by God's hands coming with them. And I think it's very similar to my story and what people took from me going from a grocery-store clerk to a Super Bowl champion. Often we want to focus on the individual and the great things he's done, kind of like Tim Tebow, and rightfully so. But the thing you always notice in the Bible is that the result of those things is other people believing. That's what I take away from this: Tim is an ordinary guy who by football standards might be considered ordinary but is doing some extraordinary things. I've seen a team and commentators and analysts and fans come to believe. And it doesn't always have to be believing in Jesus and believing in faith. They're believing in the fact that regardless of our limitations, we can still accomplish great things.
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This happened a couple of weeks ago, but Prep Rally only found the video yesterday, so let's all now gawk at it. You can practically hear the Tecmo Bowl music as the play unfolds.
Mount Pleasant (R.I.) running back Randolph Zleh officially gets credited with a 64-yard TD reception at the end of the first half here, but he must have run 100 or so yards to get it done. It was one of four touchdowns Zleh scored in a 46-0 drubbing of East Greenwich (R.I.) on Oct. 25. His little stop-and-spin at the 28-second mark is a delightful touch, as is East Greenwich's comic inability to make a tackle.
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WESTCHESTER COUNTY, N.Y. - The man accused of suffocating his 7-year-old daughter in New Rochelle earlier this year has been arraigned on a murder charge.
A grand jury has voted to charge Neil White with second-degree murder after the 47-year-old was charged in June for his role in the death of his daughter Gabrielle, who was a student at Ward Elementary School. He pleaded not guilty in Westchester County Court on Friday to the murder charge.
At approximately 3:20 p.m. on June 6, police received an emergency call from 3 Arbor Glen when Gabrielle's babysitter went to the home to check on the girl following an uneasy text message exchange with White, New Rochelle Police Capt. Robert Gazzola said at a press conference earlier this year. Upon arrival at the scene, she reportedly found White bleeding with wounds to his wrists and Gabrielle in her bed, prompting her to call the police.
Paramedics said that Gabrielle was unresponsive, laying in bed when they arrived. Neil White was taken to Montefiore Hospital for treatment of non-life-threatening injuries. He was later taken into custody and was arraigned in New Rochelle City Court on murder charges.
An autopsy performed by the Westchester County Medical Examiner's Office determined that the cause of death was asphyxia by suffocation.
This isn't the first time police have been called to 3 Arbor Glen. In January, Gazzola said that officers were called there for a verbal dispute between White and his wife, from whom he has since separated. Gazzola said that the dispute was minor and officers cleared the scene in a short few minutes.
White and Hord-White had shared custody of Gabrielle, and at the time of the 7-year-old's death, they resided in separate homes. Police said that Hord-White was at work at the time of the incident and that Gabrielle did not attend school as regularly scheduled on the day of her death.
White remains remanded to the Westchester County Jail. He is due back in court on Aug. 24. He faces a term of 25 years to life in prison.
"This hurts our community, and it hurts us all deeply as it relates to children," Gazzola said. The entire New Rochelle community is saddened by this event and asks that everyone respects the family's privacy during this difficult time."
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[sny-box color="fff"] In Case You Missed It....
Carmelo Anthony led the Knicks in scoring tonight with a season high 37 points on 14-24 shooting which included making seven three's.
James Harden scored 33 to lead the Rockets while Chandler Parsons had a career high with 31 points. The five starters for the Rockets combined for 105 points.
Jeremy Lin had 13 points on 6-12 shooting with seven rebounds and three assists with four turnovers. Raymond Felton had 17 points on 6-11 shooting with eight assists and four turnovers. Lin was +24 while Felton was -13
The Knicks were out rebounded 49-30. Asik had 14 rebounds, double Tyson Chandler who had seven to lead the Knicks.
The Knicks have lost two in a row and this was the most points allowed under Woodson since he took over as Head Coach. The Knicks have not given up this many points since 2009 when they allowed the Clippers to score 140.
The Knicks are now 3-3 against the Western Conference while 5-0 against the East
Now normally, I give you my best effort in trying to explain what I saw during Knicks games this season. Tonight in honor of the Knicks defensive effort, I'm going to mail it in and instead use the video below to explain what the Rockets did to the Knicks tonight.
Coming up next, the Knicks will return home for another Sunday afternoon game as they take on the Detroit Pistons at Madison Square Garden, at 1:00 PM. The game will be on MSG.


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Patara is in Mediterranean Turkey.
Homesick Australians will rejoice at the sight of eucalyptus trees and a sandy beach (Turkey's longest). Everyone who visits here will appreciate the relaxed relaxed atmosphere both in town and on the beach. Patara as it is known to everyone in Turkey, is the name of the former Roman city once found here. Google Maps will tell you that you are in Gelemis.
Get in[edit]
Busses run regularly between Fethiye and Antalya. Those coming from Antalya may have to change at Finike. Make sure that your bus is stopping in Patara as there are some express services. From the bus stop there are dolmuses into town that run regularly (2.5TL) or you can walk or hitchhike with ease. Note that the town is about 3km from the beach and the land between the beach and the town is protected from construction so don't expect to find any pensions closer to the beach than this.
Get around[edit]
Within the village shops and restaurants are all within walking distance. The beach is a 15 minute walk past the Roman theatre and other ruins. There is also a shuttle which runs regularly (2TL) to ferry people between the beach and the town. The walk back to town at sunset is worth the extra effort and taxis are waiting in the parking lot for those not willing to wait for the shuttle.
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The roman theatre and other city ruins are well worth the visit. As they are beyond the entrance to the beach you will need to pay to visit them as they do not distinguish between the two.
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Swim at the beach. Pricing is strangely divided into two tickets. Single person 5TL. Groups or people planning on visiting the beach more than once can buy the 5 day ticket for 7.5TL (for everyone). Kind travellers may give you their valid ticket upon their departure. Topless sunbathing is accepted along the entire stretch of beach but those wanting to leave all clothes behind can do so a short walk from the cafe where the families tend to congregate. A local travel agency hire quad bikes canoes and organise horse riding for those that want to explore the region in a more extreme or romantic way.
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Local shops sell the usual handmade jewelry.
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Local restaurants serve a variety of Turkish food and seafood as other towns nearby. Most restaurants do little to distinguish between each other although there are a few that will make gozolme in the front of the shop and encourage a more bohemian vibe. There is also a small cafe on the beach.
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There a a few local bars with water pipes and local beer in the centre of town. There is also a reasonably priced bar on the beach.
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Even during peak season you will have no trouble finding a suitable pension here. Your best bet is to turn up and find one that suits your needs and budget. There is also a hotel a few kilometers from the main town catering to the local religious crowd.
This website has an old map that should give you an idea of the layout of the town. http://www.kircatravel.com/patara_village.html
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About Me
- Leslie:
- Delta, British Columbia, Canada
- I took very early retirement from teaching in '06 and did some traveling in Europe and the UK before settling down to do some private tutoring. As a voracious reader, I have many books waiting in line for me to read. Tell me I shouldn't read something, and I will. I'm a happy, optimistic person and I love to travel and through that believe that life can be a continuous learning experience. I'm looking forward to traveling more some day. I enjoy walking, cycling, water aerobics & and sports like tennis, volleyball, and fastpitch/baseball. I'm just getting into photography as a hobby and I'm enjoying learning all the bits and bobs of my digital camera. My family is everything to me and I'm delighted to be the mother of two girls and the Gramma of a boy and a girl. I may be a Gramma, but I'm at heart just a girl who wants to have fun.
Saturday, April 21, 2012
O is for OPTICAL ILLUSIONS
Eyes function as cameras that send a picture to your brain through the optical nerve. Your brain "prints" the picture and allows you to envision the object your eyes observed. Optical illusions are achieved by messing up the signal between the eyes and the brain. An optical illusion is the difference between what you expect to see and what is actually there.
You can mimic optical illusions with your camera by taking photographs where the timing and angle works out just right OR you can create optical illusions by working with your photographs and layering them together to distort reality. With the help of natural elements, unique composition, color, light and even photo editing software, you can create works of art that confuse the mind and trick the eye.
I'm still working on how to do this with Photoshop Elements, but here are some photos I found online that illustrate optical illusions. (from here)
Hope you enjoyed this little introduction to optical illusions. And I promise that as soon as I learn how to do it, I'll post some of my own.
Before I go, I must remember to give Oppulent thanks again to Mrs. Nesbitt for creating and persevering with the Official ABC Wednesday site. She and her team of assistants are Open-minded (although some of us (me) may be a bit Odd) and will Organize their lives to Oversee your posts and Offer Original and Objective Observations. To join in, click here.
31 comments:
- Roger Owen Green said...
Love these. Peiple are always "posing" with large, well-known items such as the Capitol or the Eiffel Tower.
- Sat Apr 21, 05:14:00 pm
- Powell River Books said...
Looks like the push me - pull you from Dr. Dolittle. - Margy
- Sun Apr 22, 11:31:00 am
- Shrinky said...
I found that last one a bit unsettling, in a creepy kind of way! I love what you can do on photoshop, it's opened a whole new world of possibilities, hasn't it? I am excited to see what you've got in mind for us once you master the tecniques you're after. The trouble with photoshop, is it is like falling down a black hole, as it can suck you in there to play, and you may never come up for breath..(grin)
- Mon Apr 23, 02:21:00 am
- Welshcakes Limoncello said...
I like the zebra one best!
- Mon Apr 23, 08:58:00 am
- EG CameraGirl said...
Optical illusions are wonderful but I bet very hard to create.
- Tue Apr 24, 08:10:00 am
- Carver said...
Optical illusions can be outlandish. Outstanding post for O day. Carver, ABC Wed. Team
- Tue Apr 24, 08:10:00 am
- Meryl said...
Very cool. Good luck experimenting with your own. I have no doubt you will succeed brilliantly, and look forward to seeing the results.
- Tue Apr 24, 08:13:00 am
- Lisa said...
This Is. Fabulous! I LOLed at the first photo, and did need to go back and look closer at the last one. What a great post for optical illusions.
- Tue Apr 24, 08:59:00 am
- Reader Wil said...
Beautiful and funny, Leslie! Thanks for your comment on my blog. I also learn from comments.
Have a great week!
Wil, ABC Team.
- Tue Apr 24, 09:04:00 am
- photowannabe said...
Terrific post today, Leslie.
Love the gymnast with no head. Thanks for my morning smile.
- Tue Apr 24, 09:08:00 am
fabulous post. really funny.
- Tue Apr 24, 09:21:00 am
- Black Jack's Carol said...
Hi Leslie,
All of your examples of optical illusion were fascinating. I have just joined a photography club and have a new interest in photoshop, so this was a particularly apt post. I loved the idea of holding the moon, or having the strength to tilt without toppling a building. The zebra was mesmerizing and I had to look at the man's face again to catch the double view. All in all, great learning and lots of fun here.
Thanks also for your encouraging comment on my first ABC post. It was much appreciated!
- Tue Apr 24, 10:51:00 am
- Paula Scott said...
Most certainly another fascinating and educational post! Looking forward to what you come up with by way of optical illusions!
- Tue Apr 24, 12:01:00 pm
great pix. i like the zebra best too
- Tue Apr 24, 12:12:00 pm
- aka Penelope said...
Funny how sometimes my mind's eye fails to notice some oddity through the lens of a camera until I see the picture later. There are times when a plant seems to be shooting out of a pot that is actually a person's head. :)
- Tue Apr 24, 01:43:00 pm
- Hildred and Charles said...
wonderful choice for O, Leslie, - your optical illusions are quite fascinating. I am still intrigued with the athlete and must go back and look at it from different perspectives.
- Tue Apr 24, 02:08:00 pm
- Hazel said...
It will probably take me time to 'solve' the dancer and the guy on the last photo, but always fun these optical illusions are. My fave is the zebra.
- Tue Apr 24, 07:18:00 pm
- chubskulit said...
That last photo fooled me hahaha.
O is for....
Rose, ABC Wednesday Team
- Tue Apr 24, 07:46:00 pm
- Ann said...
when I was 15 in the photography club, we were encouraged to do the one "capturing " an object. My son learn too, and he captured me.
- Tue Apr 24, 08:31:00 pm
- ChrisJ said...
I have a book somewhere showing all kinds of art and photography of optical illusions. I shall have to hunt it up and see if you are familiar with it. I don't even remember the title now.Great topic for 'O'.
- Tue Apr 24, 09:32:00 pm
Great O post!
- Wed Apr 25, 12:42:00 am
- Arthur (AmeriNZ) said...
Great choice for "O"! I liked the gymnast one best—that probably means I'm a bitOdd, too.
- Wed Apr 25, 12:50:00 am
- Ania said...
Thank you or visiting my blog :) So many O's in your tekst :) Great :)
- Wed Apr 25, 02:48:00 pm
- Joy said...
Some great examples, its a great thing to play around with. I managed to take two horses with blankets on like the zebra photo, nice when things come together.
- Wed Apr 25, 02:50:00 pm
- sush said...
Really brilliant post:-) And fantastic examples.
- Wed Apr 25, 11:59:00 pm
- ☆•.¸.Mildred.¸.•☆ said...
Great entry!
Love these optical illusions!
Thanks for sharing. And thanks for visiting and taking the time to comment;o)
Have a great day****
- Thu Apr 26, 05:02:00 am
- Gattina said...
Wow ! that's amazing ! very good idea for O !
- Thu Apr 26, 09:05:00 am
- Martha said...
How fun. There have been Kodak moments I've missed because I left my camera home, or perhaps I was in a place where snapping pictures would have been deemed inappropriate, like the time I looked across the aisle at church and it appeared a husband was wearing his wife's hair.
- Fri Apr 27, 11:06:00 am
- nancygrayce said...
I'm catching up today! I love optical illusions and find as I age, my eyes scan over words and I sometimes read the wrong thing! For example......today I was reading something about the University of Autism! At least that's what I thought it said until I did a double take and saw it was actually the University of Austin! I wonder how often I miss the right message by doing that!
I really need to learn how to use my big girl camera!
- Sun Apr 29, 04:17:00 pm
- KM said...
The gymnast shot is my fave :D
Late visit for ABC Wednesday ^^
- Sun May 06, 11:42:00 am
- Liz said...
Now that one of the man holding the mirror had me really confused!!
- Mon May 07, 10:14:00 am


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Jan. 20, 2006
IRVINE, Calif. - UC Santa Barbara received 26 votes and placed fourth in the Big West Preseason Softball Coaches poll released on Wednesday. The Gauchos, who return 10 letterwinners from last season's team that finished 26-22, kick off the 2006 campaign February 9 at the Campbell/Cartier Tournament in San Diego.
Cal State Fullerton, who returns four all-conference players from last year's roster that made a return to the postseason, received six first place votes and 48 total points for the No. 1 slot in the poll. Long Beach State recorded the other first-place vote and placed second with a total of 39 points after winning its second straight league title in 2005.
Cal Poly followed in third place with 32 points. The Mustangs finished second in the conference standings last season under the direction of 2005 Big West Coach of the year Jenny Condon.
Rounding out the Big West Conference poll was Pacific who also received 26 points, followed by Cal State Northridge (16), and UC Riverside (9).
1. Cal State Fullerton (6) - 48
2. Long Beach State (1) - 39
3. Cal Poly - 32
t4. UC Santa Barbara - 26
t4. Pacific - 26
6. Cal State Northridge - 16
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Tag: 'digital video'
February 8, 2011 at 7:54 am
Behold, the grand unveiling of the CHOCOLATE & VICODIN book trailer:
Yes, books are now required to have video trailers. When I say "required," they are not actually required, you are just highly pressured into making one, like babies are for couples in their 30's. When my first book, Half-Assed came out in April of 2008, video book trailers were just starting to become the norm, but no one told me that until after the book came out! So, I threw something together using my weight-loss progress photos that came out fairly well. (48,000 views can't be wrong, right?)
This time around I decided to seek advice from actual publishing professionals before making my trailer. I also viewed some trailers to figure out what works and what doesn't.
Research. (Yes, spending hours on YouTube can be considered research)
Rachel Kramer Bussel is an author friend who's done lots of (Not Safe For Work) book trailers, and she said to keep it under two minutes and to make it match the tone of your book. It also shouldn't be an […]


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In Germany, the Standing Committee on Vaccination (STIKO) develops national recommendations for the use of licensed vaccines. The STIKO consists of 12 to 18 unpaid members who are appointed by German Federal Ministry of Health for a period of 3 years. The experts represent various fields such as pediatrics, family medicine, occupational medicine, virology, immunology, epidemiology, public health, and evidence-based medicine.
The STIKO is an independent advisory group. The recommendations are not legally binding, but by law they form the basis for the federal states' vaccination guidance and the Federal Joint Committee's vaccination directive. There are at least two closed STIKO meetings each year. As permanent guests, representatives of the RKI, the Ministry of Health, the Federal States, the national regulatory authority for vaccines (Paul-Ehrlich-Institut), the Federal Centre for Health Education (BZgA), the Federal Joint Committee, the Federal Foreign Office, and the German Bundeswehr participate in the meetings (without voting rights).
The Executive Secretariat of the STIKO located in the RKI's immunisation unit (unit 33) is in charge of organisational and scientific matters. It prepares the meetings in cooperation with the STIKO chairperson and coordinates requests from the medical community and the media related to STIKO recommendations and their implementation. In support of the decision-making process in the working groups and the STIKO, the secretariat performs systematic reviews, meta-analyses, and drafts background papers in close collaboration with the members.
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Ziggity Zoom's Today's Activity for Thursday, October 2nd is:
Special Halloween Activity
Halloween I Spy Learning Place Mat
Print this Place Mat off for Your Kids and let them search and find the Halloween items.
Get Up and Get Moving Activity
Look and Find: BackyardGet Up, Get Moving and Explore!
Kids love hide and seek and scavenger hunts-so print off this look and find sheet and set them loose in your backyard to get moving and exploring their world.
Dinner Tonight
Tip of the Day for Meals
1 Way to Get through Dinner and have more fun with your kids: Play a Game during Dinner
At first it might seem that the dinner table is the absolute worst place to play during dinner. But with kids the goal is to get through dinner without a melt-down, everyone eating some of their food and to spend time together as a family. There is a time for conversational, formal-type dinners, but I do not think that helps to keep your kids, especially young ones, engaged at dinner time. So leave the formalities to your grown up dinner parties and have a little fun with your kids. You will all enjoy dinner time a little more if everyone relaxes a bit. Of course, there is always a place for manners and teaching at every meal, but a little fun makes meals more enjoyable.
Game Ideas
- Name Something that Is: Color, Shape, Food grown in ground, on a tree, or any other group or things.
- I Spy: Play the usual I spy game but everyone has to be able to see it from their seats.
- What Is It?- Someone says 2 to 3 clues and each person takes a turn guessing what it is (ex. do animals or foods that are easy for kids to guess).
- Spin a Tale- A parent starts a story about something the kids like and everyone can add to the story or give ideas to help the storyteller finish the story. So you could tell a story about a Princess or Pirate, a Knight or a funny camping trip or anything you can think of.
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by Mike Masnick
Wed, Nov 3rd 2010 1:32pm
Filed Under:
delays, movies, rentals, windows
netflix, redbox, warner bros.
Hollywood continues to seek new and ever-more creative ways to shoot itself in the foot and drive movie fans to unauthorized copies of movies. Earlier this year, Warner Bros. studios was successful in pressuring Netflix and Redbox to delay rental releases by 28-days, with the hope that people who couldn't rent the movie would buy it. Warner Bros. has been claiming this strategy succeeded and that they've sold more DVDs because of it. I would doubt that it's the delay that's increasing sales, and it seems like a pretty short-sighted strategy to look to increase sales of a format like DVD right now. Either way, Warner Bros. is now claiming it may try to increase the window over 28-days. It's as if they want to drive more people to get the movie from unauthorized providers. Making it more difficult to let people watch movies the way they want to isn't a solution that will work long-term.
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Rose M. Welch (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 12:50pm
Streaming, FTW.I saw this on the Consumerist site, and it's chock-full of people just like me who wouldn't get the movie until two or three months after its release anyway, because we're too busy watching the awesome streaming to bother to use the discs...
If they choose to delay the availability of new releases by 28 more days in exchange for greater streaming access to Warner's catalog, I'm all for it.
mikez (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 1:19pm
Re: Streaming, FTW.i agree with you. I'd gladly take a larger catalouge over new releases. But i don't watch many new releases as it is anyway.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Nov 2010 @ 5:36am
Re: Streaming, FTW.this, and so much this. warner is thinking they are winning because of this window... but in truth we are because we are getting more and more streaming availible.
so make it two months, go ahead!! just give us more of the old catalogue.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Nov 2010 @ 5:49am
Re: Re: Streaming, FTW.yes, i am commenting on my own comment...
but, there is alot of money to be made in impatience. and the studios know it.
eventually you will be able to see avatar for free. it will be on ABC on sunday, or what have you. But you will have to wait. and a lot of people didn't they wanted to see it now. then when it came out on dvd, they had to own it now.
me? i waited. i have impatient friends, they bought it, and i watched it at their place.
so be patient. they are making money on your impatience. a 28 day wait for a netflix movie? seriously? you think you'll be able to get iron man 2 in the mail the day it was out? they only have so many, chances are you were going to wait a month anyway.
but if that 28 days buys me countless movies from the 80's and 90's, or even newer ones, then bring it on. i can wait. i'd rather have the streaming library increase.
make a release window. it is fine. i'll still wait. i have 300 entries in my netflix streaming que, most of which are series. i can watch stuff for a long time before i'll miss iron man.
now... mike may say they could make MORE money by not playing on my impatience but giving us what we want... and that is probably valid as well. but in this case? give me the streaming library.
Rekrul, 4 Nov 2010 @ 6:16am
Re: Streaming, FTW.I saw this on the Consumerist site, and it's chock-full of people just like me who wouldn't get the movie until two or three months after its release anyway, because we're too busy watching the awesome streaming to bother to use the discs...
One word: DVDRip :)
Christopher Gizzi (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 1:30pm
Why Windows Don't Work For MeFirst, I don't buy DVDs much at all anymore. They take up too much space in my apartment and I almost always watch a movie once or twice ever. If I buy a movie, its for a really good movie that's destined to be a "classic."
If I'm looking for something to watch, I'm going to use my delivery method of choice to find something. I'm not looking for a specific movie per se. I'm looking for something to fill time - almost anything will do. I have no intention of buying this movie and wouldn't "rent" a movie I want to buy. I'm not going to Blockbuster or even RedBox because that requires me to actually get up out of my chair and spend energy on travel.
So I'm going to stream. But because I don't care about the latest releases (again... just passing time here), I don't care how long the window is. If a movie isn't available on Netflix Streaming (or even as a DVD for that matter) I won't know the difference - or care. Plus, the "window" just changes the "release date" for people like me. Its no different than WB pushing back the actual sale back 30 days or whatever. The release date is relative and since movies are always getting released, I don't care that one title was delayed 28 days but available for stream vs some other movie thats in retail stores but not streamable. It will eventually so why should I care?
The issue the movie companies are facing is indifference to the effort needed to see a movie. Who wants to go to Target or Best Buy, pay $30 plus for a movie, stand in a long line, greeted by unskilled "employees" where I'm usually treated poorly, and have to walk or take the subway home to enjoy what I just spent an hour or more buying something I'm only going to watch twice if that.
I suppose this long rant was to say that instant gratification is what people want. If they can't give them that or delay titles, that's fine. They'll find alternatives to the content they want with legal streaming or the actual content they want through less than legal means.
If they want to use windows, fine. It won't change the way people are consuming content in their homes at all.
:Lobo Santo (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 1:41pm
Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MeI was all fired up to agree with you (still do, actually) until I figured out you weren't talking about the operating system...
Christopher Gizzi (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 1:50pm
Re: Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MeThen the title would have been Windows Doesn't Work For Me or Won't work. Its all in the grammar. It would also say that Windows doesn't work for anyone... period. :-P
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:35pm
Re: Re: Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MeI keep hoping that 2011 will be the year of Linux on the Desktop too!
Michial Thompson, 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:09pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MeI'm sure you were hoping 2010 would be, and 2009 and 2008 and 2007 and 2006 oh I guess you get the point. Good thing the world is ending in 2012 anyway, only 2 more years of the agony of hoping that linux will take over the desktop :)
I like Linux, but until the Linux crowd stops shooting it'se self in the foot by treating new users like they have no business in their sandbox, Linux has absolutely no chance.
Just try to find out how to fix or change something in Linux, and if you find your answer in under 50 clicks I's be totally shocked.
btrussell (profile), 4 Nov 2010 @ 4:20am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MePCLinuxOS
You should be able to wipe windows, partition and install Linux, as well as any needed apps, update all, being ready to go, with no issues to fix, in less than 50 clicks.
Use the LiveCD first. If it works, install.
I just put it on a Dell Lattitude(?) last night. Took an hour and a half to do above (I wasn't impressed with the 830MB of updates. Get the newest release to avoid this and save time.).
AW, 4 Nov 2010 @ 12:25pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MeNetflix doesn't work natively in 'Nix why is this even an issue? Also Linux and Microsoft are just as easy to search for fixes for, people forget that since you have more control of your system with most versions of Linux it's easier to break things and updates come a lot faster, but most average users could get along fine with Linux unless they require specific games or software, though many can run in Linux nowadays.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:44pm
Re: Why Windows Don't Work For Me"First, I don't buy DVDs much at all anymore"
So true, as for me I bought one single DVD set in my entire life, no kiding: Star Wars Original Trilogy Collection, the one with the golden box. Everything else I can just wait until it comes out for rent(I have a HUGE list of backed up series to keep me entertained until). If I absolutly can't wait I resort to "more unorthodox channels" ;)
Jim O (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 8:12pm
Re: Re: Why Windows Don't Work For MeI have never in my life bought a DVD (I'm 29). I once won a DVD in a raffle, but gave it away after watching it once. I don't like stuff cluttering up my shelves. I've also bought less than 10 CDs in my life... I'm just not interested in owning any kind of physical media (unless it has multiple terabytes worth of data on it).
I have a Netflix subscription with a Boxee laptop (my box will arrive next week).
AC, 3 Nov 2010 @ 1:53pm
StupidEven when my wife worked at a video store, and we could rent all the movies we wanted for free, I downloaded a ton of movies. The maximum of three out at a time, the scheduling of watching on certain days so that they would be ready to return by her next shift, and the plain old hassle of dealing with physical media made it easier to simply download what I wanted to watch.
After her company shut down, we got Netflix, and I haven't pirated a single movie since. Every single hassle was completely mitigated by the streaming service. Even for $13/month, it's totally worth it.
I rarely use the discs, so the new releases aren't usually my thing anyway, but if the mood strikes, and I have the choice between waiting another 3 months or pirating a perfect DVD rip from somebody who didn't wait, well, I've done both, and I know which I would choose.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:21pmit is so irritating to see netflix get bullied around like this then when i watch tv the cable and satellite companies advertise that they got them and netflix doesn't. i love netflix and watch it all the time. the studios pulling this shit doesn't make me buy dvds or blurays, i just snag it from a unapproved source.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:29pmI love now I get to see shitty DirecTV who emptied out my account of $800 last year because of an error on their part that took them 6 weeks to fix now gets to say on TV we have movies that Netflix doesn't!
I'm still watching Netflix and not buying nor renting DVDs so screw you Warner Bros.
weneedhelp (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:39pm
Re:NEVER....ever, ever, ever, give anyone access to pull directly from your account. NEVER! I don't care how convenient it may be.
Nastybutler77 (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:23pm
Re: Re:I've given access to several companies to auto charge my credit card/checking accounts for the past ten years or so and never once had a problem. And I do keep track to make sure I'm not getting screwed.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 4:30pm
Re: Re:Second that. Many problems and it is too tempting for them to pull a verizon, refund later and make a profit. screw that. if i disagree with their charges im not paying them. Would you handle your wallet to a cashier and say: take whatever it is the total while i turn my back
TPBer (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:30pm
Makes no diff..for those who already get their content via streaming or torrents. Now that GTV is going to hit the market with all the content the web can offer, I prob will cut back on the torrents and just stream whatever whenever. The networks and studios should be very afraid of this, it's legit and they cannot stop it now.
BigKeithO (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:35pm
Re: Makes no diff..GTV? Google TV?
There are already stories of studios blocking access to Google TV. They aren't that stupid. They know Google TV is a threat, they will try their hardest to avoid that threat. Make no mistake about that, soon Google TV will be deemed a national security issue or something and made illegal.
TPBer (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 4:37pm
Re: Re: Makes no diff..They cannot block the internet. I you have ever used a GTV box, you would know. It's not much diff than your computer.
Rekrul, 4 Nov 2010 @ 6:26am
Re: Re: Re: Makes no diff..They cannot block the internet. I you have ever used a GTV box, you would know. It's not much diff than your computer.
I'm getting this weird sense of deja-vu...
weneedhelp (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:36pm
Delay?Didn't notice it. I dont use P2P because there are enough ppl in my life that do, and if I want to see something that bad I just ask them for it.
The funny thing is I know someone that has terabytes of downloaded content, and they do it just to do it. They told me that 90% of what they have, they have never even seen. Kind of silly IMHO.
RikuoAmero (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:16pm
Re: Delay?That's just like me. I've spent close to a thousand euros on hard drives, upgrading to bigger ones as time goes by, and the vast majority of the files on them, I haven't watched. I even have Stargate the complete series on DVD, and have never watched them, even though I bought it a year ago.
Jeff, 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:39pm
WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN?You do not earn business and sales if you piss off your customers, and drive people to pirate the movies.
RikuoAmero (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:44pm
They need to change their business modelJust to share my two cents on the whole purchasing of media these days. I'm a hardcore downloader, I even bought two 2TB hard drives to store all my games, movies and music.
However, upon going through what I have, first, all my music is illegaly downloaded apart from a couple of OST's that came with a game and an Aerosmith album.
But its the movies and games that are going to be though provoking here. Lemme check my hard drive...my video files folder is 507 GB while my Games folder is 739 GB. In both folders are illegaly downloaded files as well as backups of media I actually have bought. In fact, there's quite a collection in my room I haven't backed up yet - things like Stargate SG1 and Smallville, both entire series (If I was to a full 1:1 disc dump of those two alone, I estimate it would be larger than 500 GB).
Now, what does this have to do with this article? Simple, when I want digital media, often the foremost thought in my mind is convenience. Would it be easier to download or to buy? In fact, just today, that was what I weighed when I bought Darksiders for PC (I bought it originally for PS3, but gave up Sony for good once they took out Linux, a feature on a piece of hardware I owned - so Sony will not see any of my money ever again). I could have downloaded the game. My preferred method is cyberlockers. But, the hassle of finding links and hoping that the one collection of links I'm downloading from doesn't get blocked, plus my slow speed (2 Megabit connection), meant I was looking at potentially days of downloading all 13 GB.
Now, however, that is a rare event for me. Most of the time, the convenience of downloading is greater than the convenience of going to the store and buying the disc. If I had Netflix, there would be no convenience to get the movie disc legally. I would then decide to download. I see Warner Bros. actively trying to shut down a legal business model - the rental of movies. You don't sell your product by limiting access to it as much as possible.
Another thing that has to be fixed is pricing. Just today, in Ireland, I walked into HMV (a DVD/games/music chain). I spotted Ghost in the Shell. Specifically, it was the Stand Alone Complex movies (the first two were compressed versions of the two season anime, while the third was an actual movie sequel). I love Ghost in the Shell. However, the price was 55 euro (that's about 77 dollars at current market rates). For a three movie boxset that don't sell that well in Ireland, since anime isn't as popular here. The discs were there. It would have saved me hours of searching on the web, and downloading, but the price was just too high. That, and I heard the English dub for these movies used a different cast than the one in the actual show, which I actually liked (but that's beside the point).
To summarise: What Warner Bros. have to figure out, in order to encourage me to buy, is how to balance the two conveniences of downloading versus purchasing. You do not do that if I cannot get at your product legally. And as I said, the pricing. It's far too high in areas where it shouldn't be.
RIAA & MPAA, 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:58pm
Re: They need to change their business modelYour IP has been logged and we are coming for you.
BigKeithO (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:24pm
Re: Re: They need to change their business modelI know this post is a joke but it drives me a little insane when people claim the RIAA/MPAA can do shit to anyone outside of the US (even in jest).
Back on topic, carry on.
TPBer (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 4:42pm
Re: Re: Re: They need to change their business modelThey can't do shit her in the states :)
10TB and growing, but I have an 18Mb connex
Chunky Vomit, 4 Nov 2010 @ 5:23am
Re: They need to change their business modelThe only thought that this provoked was "what a douche".
Rekrul, 4 Nov 2010 @ 6:40am
Re: They need to change their business modelBut its the movies and games that are going to be though provoking here. Lemme check my hard drive...my video files folder is 507 GB while my Games folder is 739 GB.
My movie and TV collection is all AVI files, burned to data DVDs. By my estimates, based on the number of disks that I have, I'd say that I have around 6TB of stuff. I don't have Stargate SG-1 though. It's not the size/number of episodes that prevent me from getting it, it's trying to track down good copies of all the seasons from reliable sources. I hate when the filenames just list the title and episode number. What group is it by? Is it a DVDRip? Etc.
I don't have that many games though. My system is older and can't play the more recent stuff and a lot of the older stuff doesn't appeal to me for one reason or another (no in level saving, fixed camera angles, etc).
athe, 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:50pm
Do Netflix have some indirect resposibility for this?What's the old saying - "Give them an inch..."
fogbugzd (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 2:52pm
Gives me time to forget the adsThere are a lot of times I see an add for a movie and think, "I want to see that." Almost always that means Netflix or a very rare visit to the theater. With my short attention span, the 28 day gap is usually enough to let me forget about wanting to see a movie when it shows up on Netflix. A longer delay probably means that I will be even less likely to remember a Warner film, so I will a movie made by some other studio and let them earn a bit of royalty.
On a different thread, I wonder how much Blockbuster pays Times-Warner for skipping the delay. I also wonder how long a withering Blockbuster will be around to pay a premium for same-day releases.
RikuoAmero (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:18pm
Re: Gives me time to forget the adsThey're not withering. They're practically dead, having filed for bankruptcy in September.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 4:43pm
Re: Re: Gives me time to forget the adsWarner Bros movies chapter 11?
MGM I think just filled that.
How the grossed 2 billion dollars in 2009, a record in history.
Hephaestus (profile), 4 Nov 2010 @ 6:37am
Re: Gives me time to forget the ads" I wonder how much Blockbuster pays Times-Warner for skipping the delay."
I believe its a profit sharing agreement.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 3:37pmI think 28 days was a subliminal message about zombies taking the earth.
That is ok though, I don't buy movies and it has been a decade now.
DRM, ridiculous prices and the general attitude of those companies really put me off.
I used to get angry about those things, not anymore I realized I was angry because I thought they were taking away my fun, when was I being stubborn and not letting it go, I found alternatives to have fun and other places to find interesting stories, contrary to popular belief there are other ways to get entertained without being in front of a box.
Rekrul, 4 Nov 2010 @ 6:41am
Re:I think 28 days was a subliminal message about zombies taking the earth.
They weren't zombies, they were infected humans! ;)
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 4:57pmOops!
Warner Bros. Pictures grossed 2 billion dollars in 2009 a record in history, no other studio made that much ever.
It is true they filed for chapter 11?
If so Hollywood accounting is doing wonders.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 5:11pm
Warner Bros. Cable double standarthttp://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Continues-Legal-Assault-On-Community-Fiber-111183
Warner Bros. sued Greenlight(Muni fiber) to get data from its operations, but the funny part is that the same cable companies don't like to give that information away.
"Wilson now not only has to give up private network information (something Time Warner Cable traditionally fights against at every level), but has to pay Time Warner Cable's legal fees. Time Warner Cable meanwhile is among the slowest U.S. cable providers when it comes to DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades -- preferring apparently to put that money into turf protection, campaign contributions and lawyers."
So I don't think they will stop shooting themselves in the foot anytime soon.
They are fueling a sentiment that when it spills it will be uggly, I doubt they will be prepared to what is coming to them.
When people turn their backs on companies it won't be pretty.
abc gum, 3 Nov 2010 @ 5:45pmDear Warner,
Ok - lets make it much larger ... say forever.
BruceLD, 3 Nov 2010 @ 6:09pm
SubjectMy money is on those who do not like waiting...who will simply download from bittorent instead.
Yes, that'll make Warner Brothers a lot of money. *shrug*
Craig (profile), 3 Nov 2010 @ 6:31pm
Fcuking Microsoft GreedUp here in Canuckistan, we finally have access to Netflix via the Wii and PS3. Today Netflix tells me that I can now use my Xbox so I'm in Netflix heaven...
Until I see that I have to buy a Gold Membership on Xbox Live in order to access Netflix. It's free to get Netflix on the PS3 and Wii, so it's pretty obvious I won't be using my Xbox, which, incidentally, was always my first choice.
Everybody wants their kilo of flesh from the consumer, don't they?
Colin, 3 Nov 2010 @ 7:12pm
From Yahoo New's article on the subject"Don't like the idea of a longer wait for the latest DVDs? Too bad, said Universal's home video president, Craig Kornblau. Determining the perfect release timing for a movie -- via on-demand, through iTunes or Amazon, in retail stores, or as a Netflix or Redbox rental -- is a matter of working out "methods that are more profitable," he said. The bottom line is that "we don't have an obligation to give consumers what they want when they want it.""
At least they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 8:37pmY'know, I think if you just posted the sentence "Hollywood continues to seek new and ever-more creative ways to shoot itself in the foot and drive movie fans to unauthorized copies of movies." every day, you'd still be accurately reporting the news.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 8:38pm
Isn't this illegal?I thought it was supposed to be illegal to pay someone to not sell a product? Or pay not to rent it out, in this case? Maybe it's just in some states, but I thought it was a federal law. Something about agreeing to restrain trade. Did the tea party already get rid of that? I sounds like they made a deal to keep cheaper copies off the market, so now if you want cheap in the first 28 days, it has to be pirate or pay more.
Anonymous Coward, 3 Nov 2010 @ 10:50pmI haven't even watched Avatar yet, Who cares!
lens42 (profile), 4 Nov 2010 @ 12:07amMy advice to Netflix is to do whatever it takes to increase the catalog. The delays are irrelevant. All that matters is the catalog. The only date that registers in peoples' heads is the original screen release, DVD dates are lost in the noise. People may chomp at the bit to a see a new movie in the theater, but who's in that much of a hurry to watch a DVD?
Jaszmin (profile), 4 Nov 2010 @ 3:59amThe failure of the DVD as a cash cow for the studios is having an effect on the movies themselves. The Studios are scaling back. No simple drama will be budgeted above $40 million from any studio from now on. The Studios are now producing even worse junk than before for teens and post teens, and better stuff than for a long time, for grown ups thirty and older. The failure of the DVD model is responsible for this improvement. But the 28 day delay just cuts DVD sales and rentals further. When the price got too high to RENT DVDs, after I'd been paying just $1.50 up until December, 2008, I just quit renting from stores and switched to Red Box, while focussing on classic film rentals from Netflix, to copy. I'm still sailing along that way two years later. I go to at least 60 theater movies a year, see everything I want to as I always have, but stopped watching marginal DVD material I had been watching, when the stores either closed or wouldn't give on the rental price. I believe this is some variation on what every DVD consumer is doing now. H'wood is spiking itself in the nose. Rolling out films from the Cloud won't work either. Someone will figure out how to steal even those films. I watch the occasional bit torrent film. My friends have such horrible taste I rarely watch what they download. But I'm fine. I'm still building a DVD film library at roughly 30 to 40 cents per dvd from netflix and $1 from Redbox. My collection is richer since I stopped copying new ones which had become primarily dreck since 2000. There weren't generally good enough NEW DVDs to make copies of anyway. My switch to classics came as a result of the outrageous charges for the dreck. The Industry cannot win now that the digital genie has been released from the bottle.
ASTROBOI, 4 Nov 2010 @ 4:34am
Warners has always been nuts.For some reason Warner Bros has exceeded the other studios is foolishness where home video is concerned.The company that brought us out of the silent era seems determined to destroy home viewing, with disastrous results...to themselves. Back in the seventies they were so outraged that people were renting VHS tapes that they themselves had produced that they started a program requiring each and every renter to sign a contract which was a miniature version of the theater movie contract. It was three pages long and the renter had to fill in all sorts of needless personal info. Most video stores then were individually owned, Blockbuster was just getting started. Faced with a load of needless paperwork and customer anger, they just stopped renting Warner movies. A few months later the program was quietly canceled. Disney tried a similar thing. They sold "rental only" tapes for a much higher price than the "not for rental" tapes which were not available to rental outlets. Of course the rental stores just drove over to the guy selling the cheap tapes and paid retail for them.
That program ended also after a few months. But they keep trying. Any bets when some smart suit will come up with the idea of shortening the window as a way to increase profits?
Anonymous Coward, 4 Nov 2010 @ 5:40amWarner thinks its getting a great deal, but they don't realize that they're only hastening the death of movies on optical disks.
taoareyou, 4 Nov 2010 @ 8:55am
Casting My voteNetflix, go with expanding the catalog. They can double the delays. Any movie I couldn't wait to see, I already saw it in the theater. I LOVE your collection of streaming movies and would gladly trade new release delays for even more streaming content.
I don't buy DVDs, and delays for new releases won't change that. All it does is prevent WB from getting any revenue from Netflix for streaming those movies while the DVDs collect dust on store shelves.
mikej, 4 Nov 2010 @ 9:07am
Yawn...I'll just continue to rent my movies from the local library anyway. My tax dollars have already paid for them. Heck, my fellow citizens have been gracious enough to support my habit and this has made a huge collection available. No need to buy them since I only watch 'em once or twice anyway. I figure I am saving hundreds of dollars a year this way. To this I say thank you. Carry on...
DanVan (profile), 4 Nov 2010 @ 10:10amIf it were up to them, Netflix wouldn't exist period
Shows how idiotic these companies are and how they could NOT care less about consumers but simply to screw them so the company can make more money on top of their already making millions CEO
vastrightwing, 4 Nov 2010 @ 12:40pm
Obvious conclusionMake the window infinitely large. This is OK with me, it's not like I watch so many movies this will make any impact on me. If I really want to watch a movie on DVD because it's that good. I will. I won't buy it. I'll rent it from RedBox. so knock yourselves out with windows and make them as big as you want.
Robert Scott Lawrence, 8 Nov 2010 @ 11:44am
Why Am I Not Surprised?Another ploy by the studios to figure out how to separate the fan from his hard-earned dollar? Shocking. If they would simply grow some sense and realize that the vast majority of people would much rather boot up Netflix and watch current releases on the ginormous flat screen HDTVs that industry priced so low the average Joe can now afford 50" of high def bliss, then they might be able to move into some kind of symbiotic relationship with the public. Until then, it's parasitism as usual. Oh, wait, I mean "smart marketing."


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