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We handle everything related to your case, including getting your car repaired, getting medical help, and more. We're here for you.
We've recovered ten's of millions in combined verdicts and settlements on behalf of our clients. Put our experience to work for you.
We never charge any upfront fees, or fees of any kind – unless we win your case. We work on a contingency fee basis – which protects you.
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- The El Dabe Ritter Law Firm, is a premier team of Los Angeles personal injury lawyers, that has over 30 years of combined experience, helping victims get compensated for their injuries. The secret to our success lies in the fact that we believe in being 100% honest with present, and future clients. If we don't think you have a case, we'll let you know upfront. If we think you should settle, instead of going to trial – we'll let you know that as well. We put the interests of our clients above ours. That's one of the reasons why we work on a contingency fee basis: meaning we don't charge a fee unless we win your case. We're client centric lawyers in Los Angeles who care only about one thing: helping our clients recover, physically, and financially, from their injuries.
- El Dabe Ritter Law firm's team of personal injury lawyers has a perfect 5.0 Yelp rating. With over 100 5 star ratings, it's no surprise that we consistently get some of the best results, among all personal injury lawyers. Our dedication to our clients, and refusal to give up – whether it be against large insurance companies, or mega-corporations, is why clients consistently return to us – and refer their friends, and family members. We believe in a higher level of service, and results, and this all comes from our belief in providing the best service. If you are the victim of an injury, contact us today – one of our attorneys in Los Angeles can come to you, whether it be in the hospital, or at your home, to help you understand your options.
Over $50 million recovered for clients
If you're the victim of a personal injury – we want to help you. We work with clients all over California – get the justice, and compensation they rightfully deserve. We have over 30 years of combined experience, helping victims. Our Los Angeles car accident attorneys understand the ramifications of a personal injury, and seek to help you in every way possible. We take on fewer clients, but provide amazing and remarkable results for each and every client.
Why Victims Choose Our Los Angeles Personal Injury Lawyers
Results Matter: Over the last few years, our firm has recovered over $50 million dollars in combined verdicts and settlements. Few firms can say they've done that. Fewer firms can say they have over one-hundred 5 star reviews on yelp. We can – it's because of the service and results we provide, which are unmatched by our competition.
Recognition: Our team of injury lawyers is recognized by many leading lawyer ranking services, such as Million Dollar Advocates Forum, DelanceyStreet, Avvo, and more, as a top ranking law firm
Location: Our personal attorneys can help from our 3 convenient locations, in the state of California. Regardless of where you're injured, you can visit one of our three convenient locations. In addition, our attorneys can come to you, if necessary – or handle everything over the phone
Service: Regardless of the day, or time, one of our lawyers is available to help. Injuries happen at unexpected times, the first few hours after an injury occurs are crucial – and that's when you'll need our team of lawyers.
No Fee. Unless We Win.
Our personal injury attorneys believe in providing each client with no-nonsense legal help. Our attorneys are available 24/7, to help you when you're injured. We pride ourselves on doing our level best to accomodate, and help, each and every client's legal needs.
What you can expect when you choose El Dabe Ritter Law Offices:
- We can help you get compensation for things like medical expenses, lost wages, pain and suffering, and more.
- We come to our clients, if needed, whether it be at the hospital, or their home to consult with them.
- We can help you get medical attention, in addition to helping get your car repaired, and more.
Ed El Dabe
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Born and raised in Los Angeles, Edmond obtained his undergraduate degree in 1998 from UCLA and his law degree in 2001 from Loyola Law School. After gaining experience representing both...
Jon Ritter
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Jonathan was born and is still a resident of Los Angeles. At 16 years old, he tested out of high school and continued to excel by testing out of college...
Why Our Los Angeles Personal Injury Law Firm
Speak To Attorney Directly
From your first call, you speak to a lawyer. We never delegate. In addition, you always have access 24/7 to your assigned attorney.
Risk Free Consultation
We offer a risk free initial consultation, in person, over the phone, or even at your home – or the hospital.
No Fee. Unless We Win
Our firm never charges a penny upfront. We only get paid – if, and when, we win your case. If we don't win, we don't get paid!
5 Star Yelp Rating
We are one of the few firms to have a 5 Star rating with Yelp – in addition to having over 150 positive reviews.
We Can Come To You
Our personal injury attorneys can come to you, regardless of where you are – in order to get you the legal help you need.
Over $20 Million Won
We've won over $20 million in verdicts and settlements for our clients. Put our experience to work with you – when it matters the most.
Car Accidents
Car Accidents
Victims of car accidents – whether be drivers, passengers, or nearby pedestrians, are eligible to get compensation for their injuries, pain and suffering, in addition to other economic damages. Contact us to learn how.Read More
Slip and Fall
Slip and Fall
Did you fall, or slip, while on someone else's property? Whether it be a private business, a house, or a government building, we can help you sue the responsible party.Read More
Bicycle Accidents
Bicycle Accidents
If you were hurt while riding your bicycle – we can help you get compensation. Whether it be due to unsafe roads, or due to a car hitting you – we can help you get compensation.Read More
Pedestrian Accidents
Pedestrian Accidents
Pedestrians who are hurt, due to a car hitting them, or due to unsafe walking conditions, are eligible for compensation. We can help. Get a risk free consultation today.Read More
Motorcycle Accidents
Motorcycle Accidents
Were you injured while riding your motorcycle? If another driver – crashed into you, we can help you get compensation for injuries, damage to your bike, and more.Read More
Wrongful Death
Wrongful Death
Have you lost a loved one, due to the negligence of someone else? Whether it be a hospital, or even another person, we can help file a lawsuit on your behalf to get compensation.Read More
No Fee Promise
Our Los Angeles personal injury law firm never charges any upfront fees of any kind. We work on a contingency fee basis. That means unless we win your case, we don't get paid. If we are unable to get you compensation – we don't charge any fee at all. We advance all of the fees associated with your case. We do this because we want you to know we're invested in your recovery. We don't look at you as a client – we look at you as a partner. We're in this with you – as long as it takes. Our one, and only goal, is to get you the most compensation possible for your injuries. That's why you'll never get a bill for us, until we win your case. It's our iron-clad promise to you. It's also why we we'll never take on a case, unless we truly believe we can help you win.
Concierge Service
We take on fewer clients, because we believe that each and every client deserves the best possible service. All of our clients have 24/7 access to their dedicated personal injury lawyer. We work harder than other firms – because we believe that each client should get the most amount of money possible. We don't settle for less. We spend as much time as necessary to help build a clients case, and to negotiate the most amount of compensation possible. If we find the opposing insurance company is not negotiating in good faith – we go to court, and win, if needed. Our goal, as your personal injury lawyer – is to help you succeed in life – by getting the financial compensation you're owed.
Don't delay – otherwise you lose your right to file a claim
Personal injury claims must be filed within a certain amount of time. If you delay, then that time period may run out – and you may be unable to file a claim. If you are nearing the end of the timeframe, we encourage you to contact our law offices immediately. We can advise you on your rights, and if needed – file the injury claim based on the evidence, medical records, and other expert testimony that is available. We can advise you on how strong or weak your case is.
We have offices all over Southern California
The El Dabe Law Firm is extremely flexible. We don't want you to feel like it's a burden working with our lawyers. Often, we come to our clients. Because of their injuries, they might be feeling unwell and cannot travel. Our Los Angeles personal injury lawyers come to them, at their place of work, their home, or even the hospital. Our only goal is to help you heal and recover. We also have offices all over Southern California. That way, regardless of where you're located, we can help you. We encourage you to visit one of our offices, or we can come to you.
Use a personal injury attorney – don't do it on your own
We typically recommend hiring a personal injury lawyer to handle your case. ABC News once reported that the AllState Insurance Company circulated internal documents which said that an injured person with an attorney, received 3x more money than someone who didn't use an attorney. This should tell you that it's better to hire an attorney. When you hire an attorney, you hire someone who has a deep understanding of the law – and can help you in more ways than one. For example, the personal injury attorney might be able to find numerous responsible parties – and thus, sue all of them on your behalf in order to increase the compensation you get. Remember, most lawyers work on a contingency fee basis – that means they don't win, unless you win. It makes total sense to arm yourself with an expert who can help you get more money.
If you're involved in a personal injury law suit, you may be entitled to compensation for a wide array of different things. Your final settlement's value is based on these types of damages. There are two main types of damages that are available: compensatory and punitive. These damages are paid to the plaintiff's insurance company. Below are some of the more typical types of damages we see.
Medical Expenses
This is common to many cases. If you're a victim, you're entitled to compensation for all of the medical care associated with your accident. You can get compensation for expenses already paid, or future expenses. If you have a disability, or need long term treatment, then it's important you get all of your future medical expenses covered in your personal injury settlement/verdict. Often, compensation for future medical expenses can dwarf any other compensation you may get.
Lost Wages
Many victims often are unable to work, while getting treatment. In the event your injury is very severe – it may hinder your future work capacity. Our attorneys can help you get compensated for lost time from work. If you have a reduced work capacity, then our Los Angeles personal injury lawyers can help you get compensation for what your future estimated income potential would have been.
Property Damages
If any property was lost, damaged, or destroyed, as a result of your personal injury – then we can help you get compensation. Property damages are more straightforward, since it's easier to recoup and estimate the value of the damaged property.
Pain and Suffering
Most personal injury victims get compensated for the emotional, psychological, mental, pain and suffering they endured as a result of their accident. This is typically in addition to the property damages, medical expenses, lost wages, and other compensation you may receive.
Loss of Consortium
This is less common form of compensation. Plaintiffs have to prove that their accident, or injury, resulted in a negative impact on their relationship with their spouse/partner. If you are unable to maintain a normal sexual relationship, or are unable to maintain a healthy emotional relationship – this could be grounds for loss of consortium damages. The damages for loss of consortium go directly to the affected spouse, or family member, rather than the plaintiff.
Punitive Damages
This form of damages is given above, and beyond, any compensatory damages. They are only given, in cases where serious injury has occurred – or where the defendant was so negligent, that the judge wants to set an example. The judge does this by adding additional financial penalties, in order to make a "point." These are hard to quantify, and fall squarely on the judge. Judges use them as a deferent.
Don't wait until injuries get worse
Many people think that their injuries are minor, and don't need medical attention. That might be true. But you don't know – until you get medical attention. Often, many victims inadvertently harm their future personal injury claim by delaying treatment. It's crucial to get treatment as quickly as possible. Many injuries, if not treated quickly, can become worse and cause serious pain later on. If you delay getting treatment, it's common for the other insurance company to deny your claim – saying you delayed treatment. What they mean to say – is that your injuries happened from something after the accident. They don't believe you. That's why it's crucial you get medical attention and treatment immediately after the accident. Any lawyer will tell you this. It creates a documented track record of your injuries – and it's something that the injury attorney you hire – will expect. Not having this lowers your chance of getting the full compensation you rightfully deserve.
We can help you determine the value of your claim
Understanding the value of your claim is an important question. During your initial consultation with one of our lawyers, we can help clarify what your personal injury claim might be worth. There's not exact way of predicting it, but we can tell you the general things judges/insurance companies given compensation for. For example, you can get compensation for past/future medical bills, lost wages (past and future), loss of earning capacity, pain and suffering – and in some cases, if you go to trial – punitive damages. There's no real blueprint on what a case's value is worth. Some cases which could be worth a lot – end up being worth nothing, because the client didn't follow the suggested medical treatment plan. As a result, the insurance company didn't believe the client was truly hurt. Based on our experience, we may be able to estimate the value of your case once we gather you medical records, witness statements and other evidence – which will improve, or worsen, your case. Typically, the severity of your injuries, your degree of fault, your employment history and ability to work, in addition to your life expectancy, are all factors which can result in a higher than expected settlement/verdict.
Our personal injury lawyers can help you get compensation
When you're in an accident, you're hurt, you're confused, and you don't know what to do. One of the best decisions you can make is speaking to a lawyer. Our firm has the experience, resources, and ability to help victims of all accidents. Our lawyers can help you win compensation from the responsible party. We have years of experience and ten's of millions in verdicts and settlements. We have a history of handling tough cases, and going to trial if needed. We handle all types of injury matters, regardless of how the accident happen. Above all, our lawyers have a track record of winning. We have a long history of getting compensation for our clients – which should be important to you, if you're going to work with us. We have investigators, and evidence experts, who can help us reconstruct the scene of the accident – in order to prove you're not at fault – whether it be to the opposing insurance company, or the judge and jury. We're 100% committed to our clients. From the minute you call our office, you speak to one of our trial attorneys who want to meet you, and learn more about your case. Our lawyers can meet you at any hour of day, at any of our offices.
When most people become victims of car accidents, the first thing they think about is whether they need a lawyer. While it's possible to get compensation without hiring a personal injury lawyer – it's not a great idea. Many people mistakenly believe they can't afford a lawyer. Most personal injury attorneys work on a contingency fee basis. That means they don't collect any money upfront. They only get paid if they are able to get compensation on behalf of the victim. In exchange for this, the lawyer takes a % of the final proceeds as payment.
Often, we find people who try to negotiate directly with an insurance company get paid less than those with representation. The thing to remember is that insurance companies make money – by making the lowest payout possible. Many victims often sustain lifelong injuries. Some victims incur serious damages, like spine problems, joint damage, and even brain damage. Some have permanent disabilities and can never work. When this happens, the victim loses his/her income and has to live on measly disability checks.
In addition, with rising medical costs – it's crucial you ensure that not only current expenses – but future medical expenses as well be covered. It's likely that if you work with a personal injury attorney, you'll be able to secure a much higher final verdict/settlement.
Is A Personal Injury Settlement Taxed?
Personal injury litigation can take months, or years, before it concludes. After you pay the medical liens and legal fees, the plaintiff ends up with a lump sum, or a structured settlement. The next big question you probably have, is "will my settlement be taxed." The answer is yes, and sometimes – no. It all depends on what the settlement money is for.
What part isn't taxed
Any settlement which is for compensation for a physical injury, or illness, is not taxed. On-going medical costs, past+future lost wages, and compensation for mental anguish – can be included in the untaxed component of your settlement – so long as it was the result of a physical condition.
What part is taxed?
It's always good to speak to a personal injury law firm to get the answer, since each case is different. If a settlement is compensation for the effect of a mental condition – not related to a physical injury, then it will be taxed. In large mass tort cases, the time between filing and the final verdict can be years. In cases like this, it's common for the interest that's accrued to be awarded to the plaintiff. The base compensation may not be taxed, but the interest on this settlement can be taxed.
If you have received proceeds from a settlement that may qualify to be taxed, then it's important you realize that the funds will be taxed as capital gains – not income.
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Frequently Asked Questions
- How much do our personal injury lawyers charge?
- What happen's after i'm injured?
- What is the statute of limitations?
- How long does a case take?
- Accepting insurance companies immediate settlement offers
- Do I Need an injury attorney Or Can I Handle the Claim?
The El Dabe Law Offices work on a contingency fee basis, this means that we do not charge any upfront fees. If we do not win your case, we do not charge anything at all. It's that simple. By working on a contingency fee basis, we make it possible for victims of injuries to focus on recovering – instead of worrying about legal fees.
Your first step after being injured, is to get medical treatment. If you delay getting treatment – the opposing insurance company may argue that you're really not hurt – and that this is just an attempt at trying to get "free money." It's in the interests of the insurance company to pay you as little as possible, and this is one way for them to do that.
If you're the victim of a personal injury, then you may be eligible to get compensation. Unfortunately, in order to file a lawsuit to get that compensation – you must file a claim within a period of time. If you don't, you forfeit your right to file a claim – and get that compensation. Each state has different deadlines, when it comes to filing a personal injury lawsuit. The statute of limitations is very strict, and there are no exceptions to it. Many victims often lose their opportunity to get compensation because they don't file a lawsuit in time. The statute of limitations is applied to your case from the day you experience your injury. This time limit can range anywhere from 1-6 years, depending on your state. If you're intending on suing the government, the statute of limitations is typically much less.
The statute of limitations can be extended in some cases. With the discovery rule, the deadline to file a personal injury claim can be extended if the injured person wasn't aware of the injury. If it was only discovered after the statute of limitations that the defendant had a part in causing the injuries – this can be a cause for which the statute of limitations can be extended.
Another example where the statute of limitations may be extended – is where there is delayed symptoms. If you have been exposed to a chemical which didn't create symptoms until many years, then the discovery rule would come into play. Even though the statute of limitations may have passed years ago – it can allow you to get compensation for your injuries.
In addition to the ways mentioned above, there are other ways to extend the statute of limitations. In the event the responsible party left the state after committing the injury – then the statute of limitations are temporarily frozen, while the party is outside of the state boundaries.
The statute may also be extended in the event the plaintiff was under the age of 18, mentally ill, or has a disability.
The top question we often hear is: how long will my case take. Many people wonder about this, even after they hire a reliable attorney. On average, the length of the case depends on a number of variables.
Your attorney's workload: The more work your attorney has, the harder it is for him to expedite proceedings, and other legal tasks associated with your case. Many sole practitioners take longer to handle cases because they don't have the necessary support staff. Less resources means the attorney is spending his time doing basic tasks, instead of focusing on your case.If you choose a bigger firm, they're more likely to have enough resources to handle your case on a normal timeline.
Your medical treatments: Personal injury cases cannot be settled until medical treatments have concluded – or have entered into a long-term care. That means the bulk of the urgent care has been done, and now depending on your injuries – all that's left is the long term care and maintenance, based on the disabilities you have incurred. It's hard for a personal injury lawyer to settle a case – when a client is still incurring treatments. If your medical bills are going to continue to grow, it's best to wait.
Fault: In some cases where liability isn't clear, your attorney may need to conduct an investigation. When liability is clear, and evident – it's easy to assign blame, and collect funds. In some cases, where there is partial fault on both sides, an attorney will need to conduct an investigation into the accident. That means finding witnesses, who can support the attorney's claim that you weren't at fault. Or, it might mean reconstructing the accident – based on forensic evidence. Typically, the longer this phase takes, the longer your case will take to settle.
When people are injured in vehicle accidents and the other party is clearly to blame, it is common for the at-fault party's insurance company to call and offer a settlement. To some people, the settlement amount may sound like a decent amount of money as a lump sum. However, it is always the minimum amount that an insurance company could offer. Do not take any settlements from insurance companies without consulting an attorney first. There are several reasons to avoid taking an insurance company's settlement.
Future Medical Bills
While some people have apparent injuries immediately after an accident, there are often long-term repercussions that do not fully appear until several years later. These are due to damages from the accident. Injuries that develop and worsen over time usually have painful and permanent consequences. Attorneys who specialize in car accidents work with experienced doctors who can predict what types of future problems may arise from car accident injuries. The costs of treatments, medications and specialist visits for these issues may not be covered completely by health insurance. When they have the potential to be very costly, it is important to factor in those costs for a settlement.
Loss Of Income
Most people lose income after an accident. They may take time off from work. In some cases, people who are injured so badly that they cannot continue in their line of work are left to find another job or accept disability income. A settlement should cover training for another career and replace income while the injured party develops a new career. If this is not possible, the settlement should cover a considerable enough portion of lost income that it will compensate for the fractional nature of disability payments. Disability benefits from the government are never enough to completely replace previous income. In some cases, people receive about 60 percent of their previous income. Only an experienced attorney who is familiar with the process of car accident injury claims can recover a sufficient settlement.
Never accept an insurance company's settlement offer. Insurers may claim that it is impossible to receive a larger settlement or that the offer is their final offer. Do not let them instill fear or anxiety. Call an experienced personal injury attorney. The consultation is free, and the attorney only collects payment if a settlement or judgment is awarded from the lawsuit.
Often, many victims decide to take legal action after they are hurt. They wonder if they should hire an attorney or not. The person who injured you is most likely going to have an insurance provider. That company will also have their own lawyers, who are going to attempt to squash your case. When you realize this – you'll understand it behooves you to hire an attorney. It's crucial you have someone who understands the legal system, and who can help you obtain a settlement based on your injuries. Filing a claim is more than just filing forms. You have to make sure you can prove liability and in addition, damages. If there are no damages, the claim has significantly less value. Not only must you show there are damages, you have to prove those damages are from the defendant. That means you have to conduct a very extensive investigation that covers all your bases. Insurance companies know that most injured victims are ignorant, when it comes to the law. Having an attorney on your side means you won't be bullied, or swayed to settle for a minor settlement. It increases your bargaining power, and can lead to a much larger settlement.
In some instances, it might be necessary to go to court. When that happens, you have to not only identify witnesses, but have to litigate the case in court. This may sound easy – but this isn't small claims court, it can be difficult to know all the procedures. At the end of the day, while you can try handling your case on your own – it's going to get messy real quick.


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Water expands when it is heated and it is nearly incompressible. These two properties can create a powerful force in a water heater. The water in a standard 80-gallon solar storage tank may expand by as much as 2.5 gallons as it is heated, and this thermal expansion will cause a significant increase in the pressure in the plumbing system unless the extra fluid volume is accommodated. In a now-infamous episode of "Mythbusters," a residential electric water heater was turned into a rocket by disabling its high-limit thermostat and temperature and pressure (T&P) relief valve.
In some homes, this thermal expansion is absorbed by pushing pressure back to the public water supply. But in homes where check valves are required to either maintain the water pressure from a well pump or to protect the public water supply from possible contamination, a device is needed to absorb this expansion. For some water systems, like those that are supplied from a well, the pressure tank often serves this purpose. For homes that have a check valve installed at the public water supply, a potable water expansion tank (aka xtank) is required.
A potable water expansion tank is typically a 2- to 5-gallon steel tank containing a flexible membrane (either a bladder-type or diaphragm-type) that divides the tank. One side of the tank, connected to the pipes of the hot water system, contains water. The other side contains air. The membrane in a bladder-type expansion tank resembles a balloon, while the membrane in a diaphragm-type tank is sealed to the wall of the tank. Since the potable water in a diaphragm-type tank could otherwise be in contact with the steel tank, a liner made from a material such as polypropylene is required to resist corrosion.
Air is compressible and, as the volume of water in the storage tank expands, the volume of air in the expansion tank will decrease. This leads to increases in the air pressure and—as a result—increases the potable water pressure. That's where proper selection and proper sizing of the expansion tank come into play. If the expansion tank is undersized and cannot absorb the additional pressure, the potable water pressure may exceed allowable limits and activate the storage tank's T&P (aka relief) valve. This is a problem since the relief valve is a safety device; constant operation of the valve can lead to its failure, and to potentially dangerous consequences.
Selecting an expansion tank for an SWH system is similar to selecting one for a conventional water heating application, but with two distinct exceptions: SWH storage tanks tend to be larger than conventional water heaters and the maximum temperatures in a SWH tank may be 50°F to 60°F higher. This can translate into thermal expansion that is four to 10 times greater than the expansion in a conventional water heater. This needs to be considered when sizing the expansion tank, along with the system's normal operating temperatures, standard water pressure, and the water heater's volume. Expansion tank manufacturers typically provide sizing charts that account for these variables.
In closed-loop antifreeze-based (aka glycol) SWH systems, solar expansion tanks (aka solar xtanks) are required to absorb the expansion of fluid in the solar loop. The solar collectors, piping, and heat exchanger are filled with a glycol solution that—like water—expands as it is heated. Though the volume of glycol in the solar loop is far less than the volume of water in a solar storage tank, solar expansion tanks tend to be the same size or larger than the expansion tanks used on the system's potable water side to handle the normal expansion of fluid and steam expansion, which can occur if a system stagnates.
Stagnation occurs when there is sufficient solar radiation available but the heat-transfer fluid is not flowing through the collectors. This can occur when a component fails, such as a controller or a pump; or during a power outage, since the circulator pump will no longer have power; or under standard operating conditions, when the system has heated the water to the storage tank's maximum temperature limit and the controller shuts off the pump to prevent overheating of that tank. All antifreeze-based systems must consider stagnation in their designs.

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New Tracking of a Patient's Radiation Exposure
In an unusual approach to reduce medical-radiation exposure, Intermountain Health Care of Utah will announce a program to track patients' cumulative radiation exposure and use it to help guide treatment decisions. Laura Landro reports on Lunch Break. Photo: AP.
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by Punchy » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:35 pmMore continued excellence from Bendis and Marquez as the Roxxon storyline really starts to come together. Miles is back in action as Spider-Man, but all throughout this issue he was confronted with reasons for why he quit in the first place.
Ultimate Taskmaster (who is hardcore) has Miles, Spider-Woman and Bombshell paralysed, and it's only though inadvertent use of his Venom Blast powers that Miles was able to escape. The fight between these characters was a lot of fun, especially as it slowly dawned on Spider-Man and Spider-Woman that Taskmaster was able to absorb their powers and send it back to them. It was great seeing the twin inner dialogues of Miles and Jessica, with Miles doubting himself and thinking he's crap, but Jessica seeing just how great he is. It was surprising to me how emotional it was to once again be inside what is essentially Ultimate Peter Parker's head, I still miss that character, even if Miles is great.
Of course, Bombshell, being an idiot, doesn't cotton on to Taskmaster's powers that fast, and basically explodes everything. Cloak and Dagger then get involved, and thanks to Cloak, Taskmaster is taken out. So now we've got all of the characters on the same page, Cloak and Dagger realise that Bombshell is on their side, and everyone's off to get Roxxon! Oh yes, I loved how Spider-Woman has gone rogue from SHIELD here, I can't wait for the next part in this story.
As I said, this book is just consistently great, the artwork from David Marquez just gets better and better, and Bendis just writes Miles' character so damn well, and he's doing an excellent job at building a great supporting cast for him. Even though Ganke and Miles' dad and Katie Bishop are absent here, the likes of Cloak, Dagger, Bombshell and Spider-Woman make for great additions. Just more proof that moving Miles into the Marvel Universe would be stupid, Bendis is building an exciting world and cast here, they aren't going to get rid of it.
by HNutz » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:35 pmHad to go look up Ultimate Taskmaster.
He reminds me of Casey Jones.
by fieldy snuts » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:54 pmWhen his powers became obvious he reminded me of Bishop.
by Grayson » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:16 pmI dropped this series after the first arc but I am slowly starting to regret that decision. Is this something that would be worth my time to pick up in trade?
by Punchy » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:19 am
by Stelios Onuris » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:57 pm...Chapel is back?
C'mon. I'm not the only one who thought it, right?
by GOSD » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:54 am
Yes, that's what I'm doing.
by Wally Brando » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:45 am
That was a mistake.
by The Old Doctor » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:57 am
Reminds me of Persuader from the Legion of Super-Heroes, circa the 5YG.
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ECS brought forth their flagship motherboard not to long ago in the form of the PN2 SLI2+ motherboard. As you can read in our review, this board sported the 680i chipset, and for the most part was a stellar board that was packed with features that the 680i has. Overclocking was good, as it seems to be with that chipset. The main drawback seems to be the price of this board. As it is the top dawg, it comes with the top prices that the 680i commands, which is typically $240 and up. Just the other day, we saw that Nvidia has launched a revision to the 680i, that is cheaper, and leaves out just a few features. Where this will fit into the market remains to be seen. I say that because Nvidia also has the 650i chipset that has also proven to be a great performer and overclocker. With the 650i, I am not sure the 680i revision makes a lot of sense.
We have already had the opportunity to look at a 650i board in the form of the Asus P5N-E SLI, and came to the conclusion that as far as performance goes, the 650i is the 680i killer. It matches performance, and only lacks some of the high end features of the 680i, like support for 437 sata drives and 250 USB devices (a little sarcasm there!), and it comes in at over $100 cheaper than its 680i brothers. With that being the case, we were anxious to see ECS get a 650i chipset based board out of the door to see how it compared to the PN2 SLI2+ board that we just reviewed. So today, we have the ECS NF650SLIT-A motherboard on the bench. Is it a falling or rising star for ECS and the 650i chipset legend? Let's find out! First off, a look at the SPECS:
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The second of two men charged with threatening to break into a Middle Smithfield Township man's home and shoot him plans to plead guilty to a lesser offense.
The second of two men charged with threatening to break into a Middle Smithfield Township man's home and shoot him plans to plead guilty to a lesser offense.
Ravon Simmons, 22, of Stroudsburg, and Sean Washington, 19, of Middle Smithfield Township, are charged with aggravated assault, burglary, having a gun with the manufacturer's number altered, prohibited possession of a gun, receiving stolen property, terroristic threats, simple assault and reckless endangerment.
The charges stem from a January incident, state police said.
Simmons waived his right to a preliminary hearing Wednesday before Marshalls Creek District Judge Brian Germano. Simmons will head to Monroe County Court, where he plans to plead guilty to the lesser offense of receiving stolen property, defense attorney David Skutnik said.
Washington already appeared before Germano in February and is now in county court, where Washington can go to trial, plead guilty or plead no contest.
State police gave the following account:
Police were on patrol at 11:55 a.m. Jan. 29 when they got a call about a burglary in progress involving a handgun at a Route 209 residence. Police responded and met the 48-year-old resident, who said Washington (his girlfriend's son) and Simmons had fled.
The resident directed police to Washington's Sparrow Street home in Country Club of the Poconos. Police arrived at Washington's home and saw him and Simmons running out of the rear of the house into a wooded area.
Police ordered both men to stop and put their hands in the air, which they did. One of the two threw what turned out to be a loaded handgun with a scratch over the serial number to the ground.
The resident later told police he had been with Washington's mother Jan. 27 in a rented room at Werry's Pub on Route 209, celebrating her birthday, and that Washington had been upset over his mother's relationship with the resident. The resident said he and Washington's mother were in the rented room early that morning when Washington, armed with a gun and accompanied by Simmons, kicked in the door to the room and threatened him.
The resident said Washington and Simmons came to his house two days later and went to the rear window, through which Washington threatened to break in. The resident said he told Washington he was going to call police and that Washington then pointed a gun at him and threatened to shoot him.
The resident said he backed away from the window to call police and that Washington and Simmons then fled on foot.


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I met Jim Ware only one time.
The occasion was an interview with Jim for information about his uncle Bill Livers. Yet my intended short visit stretched to over an hour as I was captivated by "Big Jim's" spell bounding talent as a storyteller. He regaled me with colorful tales of not only his uncle, but of his own life growing up in Owen County.
Belying his illness, Jim's booming voice seemed to fill the room and his laughter was contagious as it tumbled from within him in loud delightful guffawing.
Publisher and journalist Henry Luce once said, "I became a journalist to come as close as possible to the heart of the world."
I've found the same to be true about myself, except my world is contained to a rural county in northern Kentucky with a little over 10,000 residents.
The past three months have been a learning experience for me. There have been a few tears here and there, but luckily I've had our readers by my side to help guide and encourage me.
A couple of years ago the now-editor of the Frankfort State-Journal, Phil Case, wrote a column about his accidental entry in the Owen County Christmas Parade.
Mr. Case wrote of traveling home to Franklin County from northern Kentucky via Highway 127. Apparently, in an attempt to circumvent the parade, he accidentally fell in behind Santa Claus riding on one of the Owenton fire trucks.
I fired my personal assistant. I got worried she was a spy for the CIA using my ho-hum life as a front. Bumbling around working for me, a Kentucky grandmother on Medicare, she was respectably dull and invisible, ready to take on any ISIS terrorists who may have penetrated the frozen foods section of my local Kroger.
If not an undercover agent, however, she certainly was the most incompetent assistant in history. Or maybe the most impertinent.
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I am being asked why my name is not on the ballot for Owenton City Council. I was in the hospital Aug. 1-21 and was unable to file for this office.
I deeply regret not having the opportunity to represent you. It has been a great honor to be on the city council. You have been a wonderful group to represent and I thank you for the help and support you have given me.
Mark Bess should be your choice for sheriff. I have known Mark and Machelle Bess for many years. He is a Christian and will work very hard for the county to maintain safety for its citizens. He will work on shutting down the rapid drug growth that our children and grandchildren face daily. He is committed to having more police to be seen and available quickly to the southern and southeastern part of the county.
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BIOL398-03/S13:Class Journal Week 1
- When you hear the term mathematics, what comes to mind?
- My most recent math class was linear algebra, so right now, vectors, vector spaces, and matrices come to mind when I think of mathematics.
- Do you consider yourself a mathematician?
- I do. I use math every day in class and in my life. I ask the same questions that other mathematicians have asked for years. Without the ability to count and manipulate numbers and variables my life would be a mess.
- When you hear the term biology, what comes to mind?
- I visualize many things when I hear the term biology. Sometimes I think of plants and animals. Other times I can see DNA coils winding and unwinding (probably the result of being force-fed the central dogma of biology for the last 8 years in school).
- Do you consider yourself a biologist?
- I do. I have had so much biology in my education and now I am taking that education and giving back through my research on instability in cardiac myocytes. I also do not plan to cease learning more biology in the future; we live in an ever changing world where there is new biology every day waiting to be observed, quantified, or tested upon.
- What did you find most interesting about the Stewart reading?
- I enjoyed the description of a rainbow. I have never heard anything like it, I had no idea that rainbows were personal. Optics is a really interesting field of study, and rainbows are an excellent example of natural optics at it's finest. Of course this was a great example of how math is important, none of Stewart's description would have been possible without math.
- What did you find most interesting about the Janovy reading?
- I have never really thought of the importance of studying something as seemingly unimportant as frogs, but Janovy makes a good argument for studying any part of our Mother Earth. If we really are this new species that Janovy says we are, then not studying the other species around us who have been here far longer would be a huge mistake. The reading gave importance to studying really anything, and I liked that. I am doing research with probabilistic cellular automata and studying the human heart. And I always felt that I needed to be studying some direct human phenomena, so this article is almost humbling, and a reality check. We are such an insignificant part of Earth and yet we have the capabilities to destroy it (and sadly we take advantage of these capabilities to the maximum).
- What does it mean to be a biologist? Do you consider yourself a biologist?
- Being a biologist is not just studying, observing and testing natural phenomena. It is not enough to be up to date on the latest material or memorize the processes that go on in living organisms. Being a biologist means seeing the connections between all living things in this world. The idea that we are all interconnected is key to biologists, and key to us understanding our world which should be more of a priority in society than it is. I do consider myself a biologist. I care about our earth and educate myself on everything in my grasp. I want to learn more for my own fascination and so I can help others learn about our environment and how we can protect it. I love nature and would hate to see it destroyed forever.
- What does it mean to be a mathematician? Do you consider yourself a mathematician?
- Being a mathematician is not just plugging in numbers and solving equations. It is seeing the math in nature, technology, and life. Everywhere we look there is math. And all phenomena in nature can be described mathematically. We learn the math behind nature so we can recognize patterns and come to understand how it relates to us. If we want to survive as a species and preserve nature then we need to be able to recognize the patterns of nature and see the similarities between ourselves and other species. I am a mathematician not only because I love math and practice it every day but because I see it in everything I do and appreciate what a powerful tool math is.
- What are the similarities and differences between the two readings?
Well for one thing, they are both about severely misunderstood subjects of study. Or maybe not even subjects of study, but ways of life. People see math as numbers and equations, the Stewart reading points out this fact and that everything has math in it, but it works in the background. If math were blatant in all areas it is used we would be overwhelmed. The study of a frog seems so insignificant in our world today where money and power are everything. The more you have the more successful you are in life as a person. Society values monetary success over all and looks over biology or takes it for granted. Treats it like it is something that will be there forever, and as if we know everything there is to know about it. Well we have but merely scratched the surface, the vast majority of biology will go undiscovered and disappear into extinction long before we understand it. It is sad that people today cannot understand the value in studying a frog or some other species. And there are many people out there who do not know that they are biologists, they are too blinded by money to recognize it. Both readings also give the perspective of someone who made the choice to become a mathematician or biologist, of someone looking back on their life and knowing that they made the right career and life choice. They both also tell that technology has benefitted mathematics and biology, in math, providing opportunity for more math (as all technology involves math), and in biology, by giving biologists the tools necessary to study nature. The readings differ as well. The Stewart reading seems to be reassuring Meg that there is money in mathematics, so it is not something to be worried about. While the Janovy reading seems to bash any pursuit of monetary gain in place of becoming a biologist. Janovy does not really give hope to someone looking for financial benefit, maybe trying to attract those hardcore enough to study biology with no worry of money. The Stewart reading also stresses that seeing math in everyday life is easier than most people think, while the Janovy reading stresses more the importance of the seemingly unimportant biology or nature that we see blatantly in front of us everyday (it's pretty easy to go outside and look at your front lawn i.e. nature).
Kevin Matthew McKay 18:09, 19 January 2013 (EST)
- Before reading the Stewart chapters (on your honor), answer the following questions; When you hear the term mathematics, what comes to mind? Mathematics is a discipline that encompasses numbers, logic, equations, and theories. In my experience, math is a highly conceptual topic of study. Math requires learning how to reason and the methods one needs to reach an answer (or answers). Consequently, it is this process of reasoning that I find the most valuable in the field of mathematics in regards to my everyday life.
- Do you consider yourself a mathematician? why or why not? I would consider myself a mathematician on a very basic level because I use math in other disciplines, such as physics, chemistry, and biology. All other science fields require a general knowledge on math concepts (e.g. probability, statistics, algebra, derivatives, etc.). I do not consider myself a highly skilled mathematician because I simply have not taken many math courses, and I do not have much knowledge on the subject.
- Before reading the Janovy chapter (on your honor), answer the following questions; When you hear the term biology, what comes to mind? I think of all forms of life and everything that explains it. Biology is a study that embodies a broad range of topics including plants and animals, and the mechanisms by which they grow and develop. When I hear the term biology, I also think about how all living things relate to one another and the many comparisons scientists can draw between the different aspects of biology.
- Do you consider yourself a biologist? why or why not? I consider myself a biologist not only because it is my major, but also because I feel like I am constantly thinking about different aspects of biology. I am always curious about why certain things are the way they are, and most times I try to find the explanation to these questions. To be a biologist, in my perspective, is to have this interest on gaining new knowledge on different aspects of life.
- After reading the Stewart and Janovy chapters, answer the following questions:
- What did you find most interesting or provocative about the Stewart reading? The most interesting I found about the Stewart reading was all the examples he used in relating the study of mathematics to everyday life. In the previous question of "What do I think about when I hear the term math?" I discussed how mathematics is a study that can be applied to the other sciences. However, Stewart points out that math can be applied to the world outside of science. He gives examples such as GPS, plane flights, the Internet, modes of communication (e.g. cell phones), genetics, GMO crops, rainbows, and even animal movement. All these examples represent only a minute fraction of how math is applied in daily life. The most interesting example was when Stewart related the lattice structure of a crystal to the position of birds in a given area.
- What did you find most interesting or provocative about the Janovy reading? Janovy's argument on paradigms in biology is one that I found to be interesting. Janovy introduces this topic when discussing Thomas Kuhn, who defines what a paradigm is. Paradigms in biology are areas of study that are the most widely accepted. Janovy argues that "paradigms both direct and limit intellectual development" (Janovy 11). Later in his paper, Janovy gives an example of how scientists will apply for grants , often times with a statement of objective that leans towards the aim of the corporation. It is interesting to me that I notice this in today's society. There is a strong emphasis on the study of genetics in comparison to decades ago. This paradigm has influenced not only biologists, but also technicians and physicians as well. Another aspect of the Janovy reading that I found interesting was Janovy's theme of evolution throughout the chapter. He states that any scientist can relate their field of study to evolution (5). In his conclusion, Janovy ends with a comment on how biologists today have become so specialized in their work; however, it is this specialization that will drive one to "role extinction." The basis of biology, however, is to instead broaden one's view, exactly like the naturalist.
- What does it mean to be a biologist? Do you consider yourself a biologist? Why or why not? What I find interesting about the Janovy reading is both the similarities and differences he makes between biologists and nonbiologists. An early biologist, which one can think of as a naturalist, would consider humans as just another species in the existence of the biosphere. In contrast, the rest of the public community tends to focus on a culture centered on humans. Janovy argues that a biologist should continue naturalist ideals. He uses individuals such as Thomas Hunt Morgan, Jacques Monod, and Charles Darwin to exemplify how successful biologists were attached to the world of living organisms since an early age (Janovy 6). Having an interest in the natural world is only one aspect of what it means to be a biologist. Janovy continues to discuss how biologists perceive their surroundings. He contends that biologists see complexity through uniformity, they tend to pose questions, and they also sense interdependencies in the environment around them (19). Janovy also discusses the attributes of a modern-day biologist. Since World War II, technological advances have become intertwined into the field of biology. Today, biologists use tools; however, they tend to not uphold the values and world views of a naturalist. The study of biology requires a knowledge on computers and math in order to reach biological conclusions. Janovy clarifies his argument by discussing how biology has become interdisciplinary-- relying on other sciences such as chemistry, physics, mathematics, and even the social sciences. Although these are descriptions of the present-day biologist, Janovy concludes that biologists need to not stray away from the original values and worldviews of a naturalist.
- After reading the Janovy reading, I still consider myself a biologist. Like Morgan, Monod, and Darwin, I found myself interested in living organisms since a young age. Although I have learned and performed various technological methods to determine biological conclusions, I still value and revel in nature, which is what Janovy considers to be a vital attribute of a biologist. I try to surround myself with the natural environment at every opportunity.
- What does it mean to be a mathematician? Do you consider yourself a mathematician? Why or why not? In the Stewart reading, a mathematician is one that can not only see patterns in various settings, but is one who can mathematically justify why these patterns occur. For example, Stewart is able to relate an atom's crystal lattice structure to bird positions, and he can even mathematically deduce why rainbows exist.
- After reading the Stewart reading, I still do not consider myself an actual mathematician. Stewart is an individual who bridges the gap between mathematics and nature. In contrast, I do not see patterns in the environment to the extent that he does. For example, of course I have noticed the shape of a rainbow; however, I have never thought about the mathematical reasoning behind it. From this reading, I hope to become more aware of the significance of math in my daily life.
- What are the similarities and differences between the two readings? Both readings make distinctions between how the field of study is perceived by the general public and what it actually is. In the Janovy reading, he argues that biology is understood to be a field of technological tests, drawing from other disciplines. However, the root of biology should be in the value of nature. Similarly, Stewart claims that the notion of the public on mathematics is that it is simply a field of numbers. In reality, math is responsible for many things we need on an everyday basis. In a sense, math is devalued because of its obscure role in society.
- Another similarity between the two readings is that both biologists and mathematicians have a distinct way of thought that is dissimilar from other individuals. Biologists tend to think of humans as another species, whereas society puts more value on humans over other species. Similarly, Stewart contends that mathematicians think differently as well, as noted in the last paragraph of chapter 5. Mathematicians tend to see trends and patterns in their surroundings, which math can explain.
- Although both readings display similarities, they are also different. Firstly, Janovy argues that most biologists lose sight of what it truly means to be a biologist, which is upholding a passion for nature and living organisms. Instead, modern-day biologists may get caught up in paradigms and other influences. In contrast, Stewart suggests that mathematicians are the only ones that understand the true meaning of math, which is the fact that math can be used in everyday life, including in nature. The public, however, is the group of individuals who have the misconceptions on the field of study. Secondly, the Janovy reading proposes that although nature and evolution are the main pillars of biology, biology today is a study which encompasses the other sciences. In contrast, Stewart poses that it is mathematics that highly contributes to other disciplines.
Laura Terada 04:53, 19 January 2013 (EST)
- When you hear the term mathematics, what comes to mind?
- When I think of mathematics, I think of solving problems using numbers, logic and equations. Mathematics is very intellectual and solving problems in math is almost like completing a puzzle.
- Do you consider yourself a mathematician? Why or why not?
- I do not really consider myself a mathematician. To me a mathematician is someone who has studied a lot of math and has a solid understanding of many the concepts. I do not think I have a great knowledge when it comes to math. Although I do use some math in my everyday life, it is simple and not to the level of someone who I would think of as a mathematician.
- When you hear the term biology, what comes to mind?
- I immediately think of all the living things in the world around us. I think of plants, animals and microorganisms. For me the biggest thing that comes to mind is the human body. I have always been interested in the human body. I often think about how it is composed and how we function on a daily basis.
- Do you consider yourself a biologist? Why or why not?
- I do consider myself a biologist. I have always been interested in biology from a young age and I have been learning about it for as long as I can remember. I think that I have amassed a lot of knowledge when it comes to biology. I find that biology is one subject that I always want to know more about. I know that advances in biology are constantly being made and this keeps me interested to continue learning.
- What did you find most interesting or provocative about the Stewart reading?
- I found Stewart's discussion about the red stickers to be most interesting. He believes that the public has the wrong view about mathematics and he wishes that could be changed. He suggests putting a red sticker on everything that uses mathematics that says "Math Inside." He makes the point that math is in almost everything in our world today but nobody knows it or appreciates it. It was interesting to see how many examples have math in them, including vegetables. Many would not think of the math that goes into commercial breeding. I found this point to be very interesting as I have always had an interest in genetics but I have not fully thought about all the mathematical methods that go into it.
- What did you find most interesting or provocative about the Janovy reading?
- I found the author's story about his encounter with the woman at the high school volleyball tournament to be most interesting. He talks about discussing his work and the work of his colleague to the woman. It was interesting to see the two different perspectives they had about the conversation. Janovy thought his colleague's work was interesting and important. He knows his colleague as a well respected man who does important work for the further development of biology. It was funny to see that the woman did not exactly agree. She gave a look of disapproval when she learned that the colleague did work on frogs in South America. She does not see this work as beneficial to our society. As Janovy says, this work will not cure cancer or stop pollution, so most people may not see the benefits of the work. I liked that Janovy was able to defend his own position as biologist. He saw the work as beneficial to ultimately contribute to overall view of the world. Without research such as this our knowledge about our world will cease to grow. It was interesting to see the two different trains of thought between them.
- What does it mean to be a biologist? Do you consider yourself a biologist? Why or why not?
- A biologist is one who has an interest and an inherent attachment to the world of living organisms. A biologist knows and understands that each living organisms has levels and levels of complexity. They understand that there is very little understood about living things and that there is much more to learn. A biologist has the drive to continue to search for new answers and continue to learn more and more about the world around us. Biologists want to know more and hope to discover it. I still consider myself a biologist. I share a lot of the traits that Janovy discusses. I know that biology is a field where still little is known and I like that about it. I want to know more about the world around us and I look forward to learning new things about biology.
- What does it mean to be a mathematician? Do you consider yourself a mathematician? Why or why not?
- There is more to being a mathematician than using numbers and equations to solve math-related problems. A mathematician sees math everywhere and can use math to create many new technologies. According to Stewart, we see mathematicians around us all the time but we almost never notice. A mathematician sees mathematical patterns in their everyday life, such as noticing the spacing of birds on a wire. I still do not consider myself a mathematician. I do not often notice math in my everyday life. I have rarely noticed any type of mathematical patterns in my life or thought about how to mathematically explain a rainbow. I think I could learn to become a mathematician, but at this point I do not think the way a mathematician most often does.
- What are the similarities and differences between the two readings?
- Similarly, in both readings, both authors make the point that their respective field of studies are often misunderstood. The authors seem to feel that general public have misinformed opinions about their fields that are often too specific and limited. Stewart demonstrates that math is everywhere. It is not just numbers written on paper but it is the foundation of many advancements in our world today. Janovy also shows that there is more to biology than what is on the surface. When he is speaking about the frogs in the south america, most people would not see the significance of this but Janovy does. He argues that biologists appreciate these studies because they contribute to our understanding of the world. The authors believe people in their own fields of study think differently than others. A mathematician notices patterns in nature and can rationalize them mathematically. A biologist sees the importance in various studies that may not seem significant on the surface, but will contribute to our biological knowledge long term. It seems that the authors think the general public does not fully understand what they do and how important their fields of study are.
- There are differences in the readings as well. One, in the Janovy reading when he tells others he is a biologist they have the impression that they do not make much money. And the author does not say much to contradict this point. In Stewart's reading, he explains that there is a ton of potential to make a lot of money as he list off some of the new, very successful technologies that were created with math. Another difference is seen tn the Janovy reading as he explains that in biology not much is known and biologists need to actively go out and look for answers. He thinks a good biologist will seek out the answers to questions about the world. Stewart seems to have a different philosophy as he explains that anyone can see math in nature and it is just a matter of noticing different patterns that can make one a mathematician. Janovy also mentions that worldviews between fields of studies seem to vary dramatically, showing that every field of study has unique ideas about the world. I think there is potential for these views to come together and complement each other, just as math can complement biology and vice versa, as they do in genetics.
- James P. McDonald 19:04, 21 January 2013 (EST):
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Before Stewart
- When you hear the term mathematics, what comes to mind?
Hearing mathematics, I instantly think of all the numerous math courses I have taken over the years. Not only do I think of more numerical classes like Calc and Algebra with formulas like the quadratic formula, but I also think about all of the proofs I've done since taking MATH 248 and MATH 321 that are not typically thought of when it comes to mathematics.
- Do you consider yourself a mathematician?
I do consider myself to be a mathematician. Taking and loving math classes since 7th grade proves to me that I am a mathematician. I have a deeper appreciation and understanding of the subject than many people.
Before Janovy
- When you hear the term biology, what comes to mind?
My first thought when I hear the term biology is cells. I then think of all of the systems of the cell, and how those affect the tissues, organs, organ systems, and organisms that are made up of these microscopic things. I am instantly in awe of the way that biology works, and it amazes me how many things there are left to learn.
- Do you consider yourself a biologist?
Similarly to mathematics, I feel that my appreciation and understanding of the subject qualifies me as a biologist. It is more than just being able to recite facts, but being able to grasp how everything is intertwined that makes you into a biologist.
- What did you find most interesting about the Stewart reading?
- What did you find most interesting about the Janovy reading?
- What does it mean to be a biologist? Do you consider yourself a biologist?
- What does it mean to be a mathematician? Do you consider yourself a mathematician?
- What are the similarities and differences between the two readings?


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When the iPhone was introduced, Nokia's first official response was the corporate equivalent of a raspberry (the spitting kind, not the fruit!). Their second official response was to demo a device which so closely mimicked the iPhone that it quite possibly was one.
"If there is something good in the world then we copy with pride," said Anssi Vanjoki, Nokia's Executive VP & General Manager of Multimedia.
Well, proudly copy it they have! The final device, bewilderingly code-named "Tube" is ready for prime-time (or whatever time it is they relegate programs that knock off last season's hits).
Is Nokia worried about the iPhone and it's popularity? Not according to Tom Libretto, vice president of Forum Nokia (who must be auditioning for a shot on iPhone JEOPARDY!):
"We've done [the iPhone's sales numbers to date] since we've had dinner on Friday."
We would hope so! Since the global sales leader with a complete range from cheapo handsets to high-end convergence devices available in almost every country, on every carrier, on the planet is comparing numbers to a single (albeit revolutionary) iPhone available in only a handful of places on a single carrier each. And Fake Steve claims to be mathlexic! (N95 to iPhone numbers in the US anyone?)
That Nokia has adopted the increasingly popular "if you can't beat them, copy them" strategy -- a strategy that, if Apple had adopted it, there would be nothing for RIM, Samsung, Microsoft, or Nokia to be copying right now -- is disappointing to say the least. But it once again highlights that if Apple hasn't achieved market share, it's certainly achieved market leadership.
Do you want a world where there's the iPhone and every other manufacturer's knockoff of same? Or would you rather see the other companies innovate and revolutionize and differentiate their offerings? What do you think?
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Am I the only one whose inner voice for Old Testament God is Ultimate Warrior? It sounds so much better that way.
Since you have refused to obey my laws and regulations and have behaved even worse than your neighbors, I myself, the Sovereign LORD, am now your enemy. I will punish you publicly while all the nations watch. Because of your detestable idols, I will punish you more severely than I have punished anyone before or ever will again. Parents will eat their own children, and children will eat their parents. And I will punish you by scattering the few who survive to the far reaches of the earth.
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sounds good to me!
I look at Yahweh as an omnipotent, cruel, selfish little princeling. He viewed humans with the same lack of compassion that a little boy might look at his ant farm. He experimented on humans, tortured them, played with them, without regard to human emotion. Yahweh was a spoiled as the child of a king, with no conscience, no morals, no ethics, no feelings other than his own petty jealousies and selfishness. Kind of the "1%" of his species. How the ancient hebrews came up with such a character, I don't know. They had yet to develop a sophisticated sense of ethics themselves. Also, life can be a bitch, and life in ancient Palestine was more so - invasions bu powerful enemies, slavery, subjugation, famines, who knows what. Only a nasty pissypants god would treat his pet that way.
Religions are fun to study. It's like reading science fiction stories, only instead of aliens it's humans and their gods. I would love to take an evolution-of-religions course. Only no time for that.
Actually, Sentient, there's a good book on that very topic. The Evolution of God by Robert Wright. I recommend it.
Maybe these legends speak to a type of human archetype - Samson, Rambo, Hercules, Conan, Hulk Hogan, The Incredible Hulk....
That reading the bible thing can get you in trouble. Made me into an atheist.
"You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do." Anonymous
YWHW is the super magical version of the city state despots and tribal chiefs of the Bronze and early Iron Ages. When they marched their armies on another mud hut city or village and raped, pillage, and laid waste the countryside, they had to have some rationalization for it; especially for those doing the raping and pillaging. After all, the people of the neighboring city state might get pissed and kill you in the process.
If "Da Sky Boss" ordered it, you could back up your claim with the gullible who had the swords, spears, and chariots who were doing the fighting. And, the extra added bonus was that if you won, you were justified in your own populace's eyes; especially if they shared in the looted goods, women and slaves.
These dictatorial despots (David, Solomon, Ramesses, Xerxes, Aztec and Incan rulers, etc.) justified their own blood lust and desire for conquest by invoking the magical spirits of the sky to rationalize what they did. When you read about the atrocities of YWHW, Marduke, Quetzalcoatl, or Allah, wreaking vengeance and tribulation, what you're really reading is all too normal and darker human emotions and actions of vengeance, murder, theft, rape, and the occasional fantasy about what you'd like to do the guy that did it to you first.
Love the scapegoat line.
it'd be funnier if God's voice was Mike Tyson (especially for your chosen quote):
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What impact can an increase in peanut acreage have on a state's cotton crop? Plenty if growers of both crops don't pay particular attention this year to timeliness of harvest, say Extension specialists.
U.S. peanut acreage is expected to grow this year by a considerable 12 percent over 2004, with five of the nine peanut-producing states boosting their acreage in 2005. Leading the way in this rush to plant more peanuts is the Southeast, with a whopping 18 percent increase over last year.
Breaking it down even further, Georgia leads nationally in the race to increase peanut acres, with growers saying they'll plant about 750,000 acres for a 21 percent increase over 2004 plantings. Some of these same farmers also will be planting cotton, with an anticipated acreage this year of 1.2 million acres.
Herein lies the potential problem, according to Steve M. Brown, University of Georgia Extension cotton specialist.
Pressure from tomato spotted wilt virus has gradually shifted peanut planting dates from the latter half of April to the latter half of May. As a result, says Brown, both peanuts and cotton often are ready to harvest at the same time.
One of the key challenges of having peanuts and cotton on the same farm is timeliness of harvest, he says. Physiologically, mature peanuts cannot be left in the field. "Harvest delays in peanuts can be catastrophic. But while not as costly as cotton, harvest delays can significantly reduce cotton yields and both fiber and seed quality."
One possible way to address this problem, says Brown, is to plant and manage a portion — perhaps 10 percent — of your cotton crop so that it matures and is ready for harvest prior to mid-September, before the initiation of peanut digging. This spreads production risks and harvest, he says. It also provides an opportunity to capture yield and fiber quality that might otherwise be lost.
A typical early management system might include the following:
• Plant in mid-April, at least by April 20 to 25. Get the crop in early but not too early.
• Plant early to mid-season varieties. Avoid full maturity varieties such as DP 555 BG/RR. A four-week bloom period is sufficient to make 2.5 bales or more.
• Don't over-fertilize, particularly with nitrogen. The object is to grow and mature the crop and have the plants begin to decline by mid to late August.
• Encourage early fruit retention. Don't misuse glyphosate in Roundup Ready systems. Apply mepiquat (Pix, etc.) to increase square and boll retention and tilt the crop towards reproductive rather than vegetative growth. Scout carefully and spray as needed to minimize insect losses.
• Be prepared to aggressively apply harvest aids as the crop matures. Once the crop nears 60-percent open, and/or five nodes above cracked boll, it is ready. Treat with defoliant and boll opener combinations and then pick as soon as the leaves drop.
Brown warns there are risks associated with an earliness cotton management system, and these all include adverse weather conditions. Of these concerns, early planting ranks as a far lower risk than early harvest, he says.
On the front end, planting in mid-April can sometimes mean increased stand establishment because of cool temperatures and wet soils. The standard recommendation is that planting can safely proceed when the 4-inch soil temperatures reach 65 degrees F. for three days, and warming conditions are projected over the next several days.
This is a very conservative approach, says Brown, and provides a more-than-reasonable margin of safety. Other, more northerly states, routinely plant under much more adverse conditions and consistently achieve acceptable stands, though often at higher seeding rates, he adds.
Brown advises that growers use common sense and consider temperatures and forecasts when planting.
A second risk, he says, is a June drought. If the crop blooms by June 20, dry weather in late June can be devastating, especially for early maturing varieties in non-irrigated fields, he says. "Keep in mind that mid- to full-maturing varieties generally have greater 'comeback' potential and can more readily recover from periodic drought."
Historical averages, says Brown, indicate the likelihood of significant rainfall around Labor Day. This has motivated University of Georgia scientists in the past to recommend that cotton planting be delayed until after May 10 to avoid or minimize boll opening during this time. If boll opening initiates during a period of rain, high humidity, and overcast conditions, problems with boll rot will increase.
"While averages suggest a greater threat of rain in early September versus late September and October, no one can accurately predict what will happen this year. Delays in recommended peanut planting dates have pushed peanut harvest back to Oct. 1. Thus, there's a window in September to harvest cotton. Again, the risk of rain in early September exists. An equal or even greater risk is cotton that fully opens in late September and remains in the field for weeks while attention is diverted to peanuts."
Even with the risks, says Brown, the opportunity and possibility of harvesting cotton in early to mid-September is an option that should be considered on many farms.


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Frank Szczepanik, Mill Creek resident, said he was spending his afternoon at the pool when he saw the girl floating face down in the water.
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well, a few nights ago i was walking alone near an old school building were, supposedly, a murder took place. as i was walking, i felt a presence that i was being watched. i just brushed it off by thinking that it was my imagination getting the better of me. but after thinking that the lights of the old building switched on, but the gates that were put up to keep people out were locked up tight.i looked into the building, but nobody was around as far as i could see. not to mention that its impossible to unlock the gate from the inside. i called out into the building, but no reply.still the eerie feeling of another presence loomed over me. i got out of there as fast as i could. ;D. i dont know if it was anything supernatural or just coincidence. what do you think?
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Posted 09 August 2003 - 01:24 PM
Awesome ;D I think it was real Where is the school?
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Posted 09 August 2003 - 08:00 PM
i think it was real to yeah were is this kreepy skool? :-/
Posted 09 August 2003 - 08:18 PM
i always thought school were creepy...lol. but this is different, were is it at?
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Posted 13 August 2003 - 12:46 PM
the school was in the Owens Valley in the middle of the California desert. i think i posted something on it before i joined in haunted locations. but its a twenties/thirties style building with the windows blown out and locked up tight. honestly ive tried to break in there more than once :, and i cant get in. but i'll try again, but with friends :-[ ;D.
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