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The Whiskies
- The Glenlivet 12 Years Old
- The Glenlivet 15 Years Old French Oak Reserve
- The Glenlivet 18 Years Old
- The Glenlivet Nadurra
Date and Time
- Friday 23rd November 6:00pm GMT
Special guest
Ian Logan - The Glenlivet International Brand Ambassador
For those of you who do not know what these are about they run for generally 12+ hours and we all sit down (at various times) to taste a range of whiskies and share our notes and comments on the forum.
They are a great way to meet people on the forum, chat about your experiences and learn something new about the whiskies you have, and we all end up having a good time.
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Please feel free to join in and post any comments or tasting notes you have.
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Meet The Interior Design Expert
While traveling for a paint company out of Denver, CO, Richard R. Myers began thinking he'd like to have his own business. So, when the opportunity for a Benjamin Moore paint dealership in the Yakima area became available, he took it. In 1954 he and his family moved to Yakima and opened Standard Paint along with 2 other partners.
Dick quickly built a reputation for offering exceptional personal service, a knowledgeable staff and a selection of quality products. After obtaining sole ownership in 1974, and to accommodate a growing business, Dick built a new facility on 3rd Ave., where our main branch is still located today. Further expansion came in 1980 with the addition of floor covering and decorating products, and the opening of our Design Studio in 1988. In total, we now consist of 6 stores throughout central Washington and Oregon.
In 1986 Dick Sr. retired, and his son, Dick Jr., took over. Under Junior's leadership Standard Paint & Decorating, (at the time) grew into the Tri-Cities and Bend, OR communities. The flooring and decorating side of the business grew to become just as strong as the paint business, and Standard Paint's brand and reputation continued build trust and loyalty with their communities.
In 2006 Dick Jr.'s sons Regan and Craig Myers joined the Standard Paint & Flooring team to become the third generation of Myers, and are currently partners with their Dad. Recently Standard Paint & Flooring has expanded their product offerings and services to include cabinets and stucco as well. Standard Paint has also increased the benefits they are able to offer their customers by becoming a Window Coverings Dealer and a Shaw Gallery Dealer.
Just recently in 2012 Standard Paint & Flooring opened up their sixth store in Wenatchee, WA and are very proud to become a part of that community and employee some very talented professionals.
Today Dick, Regan, Craig and the entire Standard Paint & Flooring family continue to rely on the same standard of offering quality products and personal service, making Standard Paint & Flooring a place Where service is still in Style.

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About Barbara G
Lives in London, United Kingdom
Since Apr 2012
35-49 year old female
I am a native Viennese, frequent traveller to my hometown and run Vienna blog www.vienna-unwrapped.com. I also run the Vienna Coffeehouse Conversations, which connect Vienna travellers with local Viennese 1:1 at traditional coffeehouses.
This three-day guide to Vienna features my suggestions for first-time visitors to my hometown — with a mix of must-see sights and insider tips. The guide is not exhaustive, but it should provide you with a good overview of what it is possible to see in three days.
16 Places
5 City Tips
16 Places
Historic Walking Areas, Points of Interest & Landmarks, Historic Sites
Points of Interest & Landmarks
Speciality Museums, Architectural Buildings
Speciality Museums, Points of Interest & Landmarks, Art Museums
Speciality Museums
Speciality Museums
Art Museums, Architectural Buildings
Flea & Street Markets
Gardens, Architectural Buildings
Vienna's state boulevard girds the city center and is the perfect place to orient yourself. It stands in the place of the former city walls, which were torn down after the Napoleonic Wars. Take the Yellow Ring Tram for a 30-minute tour past beautiful buildings such as state museums, the Opera, Austrian Parliament, Vienna City Hall, and Stadtpark.
Vienna's luxury shopping mile is part of the pedestrian area in the center, running between the State Opera and St. Stephen's Cathedral. The most famous shops are Oesterreichische Werkstaetten and glass manufacturer Lobmeyr Swarovski's stunning flagship store. However, Kaerntnerstrasse is better for window shopping than souvenir shopping.
Winterpalais is a hidden gem of a town palace, and many travelers discover it by chance. It's located just off Kaerntnerstrasse and has only 10 rooms, so it won't overwhelm you on your first day. The palace once belonged to Prince Eugene of Savoy, one of Austria's most famous military commanders.
Situated on the outskirts of Vienna, the historic tavern Zu den drei Hacken (To the Three Axes) provides a rustic break from Kaerntnerstrasse. The place is well known, busy, and a great introduction to classic Viennese cuisine — from schnitzel (breaded meat) to schweinsbraten (roast pork loin) and knoedel (dumplings).
Situated on Ringstrasse, the Museum of Applied Arts displays a wide array of Viennese arts and crafts, from 14th-century stained glass to 1950s figurines. Highlights include an excellent collection of Biedermeier sofas and Thonet chairs.
If people ask me for a great insider place to have Austrian food, I often recommend Restaurant Silberwirt, for a variety of reasons. First, the menu covers the best of Austrian delicacies, including contemporary favorites. Second, the building complex, Schlossquadrat, dates from the 14th century and is a historic gem with a romantic courtyard. Finally, it's located off the beaten path in the trendy district of Margareten, popular with urban professionals and young families alike.
For six centuries, Vienna was the capital of the mighty Austro-Hungarian Empire, ruled by Habsburg dynasty. The Hofburg, home of the Habsburgs from the first emperor in 1273 until the last in 1918, grew in scope and grandeur over the years, as each emperor sought to outdo his predecessors. Today, it houses a cornucopia of attractions, including six museums, the National Library, and the Imperial Apartments. To get a feel for this place that was at the center of European history for hundreds of years, start in the middle and work your way out.
After so much pomp, treat yourself to a down-to-earth meal of Vienna sausage at a traditional Wurstelstand (sausage stand). Bitzinger's is located near the State Opera and serves up tasty treats. The sausages are cut up and served with mustard and a roll or a slice of dark bread. Alternatively, try a 'Leberkase semmel' (warm meat loaf in a white roll), which is very popular with locals, from students to blue-collar workers.
Konditorei Heiner is one of my favorite cake shops in the center of Vienna. You can go mad with cream cakes, gugelhupfs (bundt cakes), fruit tarts, pralines, cookies, waffles, and macaroons... You can also try the famed Sachertorte here. Heiner is a former supplier to the Imperial Court, but far less touristy than Demel, another former supplier. The cake shop has three different salons, including one upstairs.
Museumsquartier is Vienna's most exciting museum complex, housing more than 10 museums and cultural institutions. It's a great place to explore contemporary and 19th- and 20th-century art. Museumsquartier is located in the former Imperial stables, a beautiful baroque complex with a vast courtyard and funky lounge chairs that are perfect for relaxing.
If you're always tempted to sneak behind private curtains, Hofzeile 27 is for you. For this private dining experience, Chef Sybille Fellner Kisler and her husband Wolfgang invite guests to their beautifully stylish townhouse in the leafy suburb of Doebling. The exquisite meals feature modern Austrian cuisine that can compete with top-quality Austrian restaurants. It's a fantastic way to explore contemporary urban living!
Start your day with a Viennese breakfast at Cafe Museum, where Gustav Klimt used to take his coffee. I love the clean but cozy original 1930s feel: red velvet semi-circle benches, marble coffee tables, a fantastic selection of cakes and coffees, and very friendly service.
On your way to nearby Naschmarkt, you will pass the Secession Building, Vienna's key Art Nouveau landmark. Compare it to the city's Baroque buildings and you will understand the artistic revolution at the start of the 20th century, when Gustav Klimt and a number of his contemporaries 'seceded' from the conservative Künstlerhaus to found a new art association, (they commissioned the Secession Building as the exhibition space). Take the time to walk round the cubist architecture and to admire its signature globe of golden leaves.
Naschmarkt is Vienna's most popular food market, and the perfect hunting ground for all things vintage. Soak up the multicultural Balkan flair and try not to be bothered by the crowds! The green cast-iron stalls are almost 100 years old, and the whole market dates back to the 16th century.
From Naschmarkt, take the Vienna U-Bahn Metro (U4 line) out to Hietzing for lunch in one of Vienna's most beautiful residential neighborhoods. Plachutta restaurants are well known for tafelspitz, a traditional boiled beef dish that became popular because it was one of Emperor Francis Joseph's favorites; while Plachutta has several busy outlets in the city center, Hietzing is more off the beaten track.
From Hietzing, take one Metro station back to Schoenbrunn Palace, Vienna's number one attraction (and rightly so). The Habsburg Emperor's summer residence, with its richly decorated salons and beautiful garden compound, brings back Vienna's Imperial past in all its pomp and glory. In the warmer months, make the effort to climb up to Gloriette Belvedere for coffee, cakes, and a beautiful view of Schoenbrunn and the city.


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Retired Professor of English and Community College of Rhode Island Foundation Trustee Charles Sullivan died on May 27, 2010 at his home in Providence. He was passionate about teaching, adored his students and staunchly supported the arts. His sense of humor and genuine compassion are remembered by many and were celebrated during a memorial service on July 12. Video footage of the service includes:
In 2008, Charles became the 36th member of the CCRI Hall of Fame for his substantial contributions to the college. From his start at RIJC as an English professor in 1967 through his retirement in 2008, he was a tireless advocate for the arts. In honor of his 58th birthday in 2003, a small group of friends established the Charles Sullivan Fund for the Arts and Humanities with an endowment that today totals more than $160,000. His annual Salute to the Arts event provides musical and dramatic entertainment and raises funding for the endowment.
A prolific writer of poetry, Sullivan served as book review editor for East Side Monthly. He was president of the Providence Athenaeum board, president of the Rhode Island Committee for the Humanities twice, vice president of the New England Foundation for the Humanities and was a member of the national Community College Humanities Association, helping to attract and direct the national conference to Rhode Island twice. He was also vice president of Higher Education for the National Education Association of Rhode Island in the 1980s.
Sullivan was a trustee of the CCRI Foundation and sponsored the Women Returning to School Scholarship. This scholarship focuses on women who have been out of high school for at least 10 years and wish to attend CCRI.
Contributions in Sullivan's memory can be sent to the CCRI Foundation, 1762 Louisquisset Pike, Lincoln, RI 02865. To celebrate his life and accomplishments, members of the community have expressed their memories and some of those stories and anecdotes are shared below. If you have a story you want to share on the website, send it to firstname.lastname@example.com.
Lou George '69
Back in 1968, Mr. Sullivan was my professor in British Literature I and II and Shakespeare. His wonderful teaching techniques enabled me to enjoy every minute of each class. The Beatles' song "Hey Jude" had just been released and the record was hard to find. I gave the record to Mr. Sullivan so that he could listen to it. It's funny that before I learned of his passing, I thought about him when I heard the song on the radio this week. Rest in peace my friend.
Linda Richard
IT Director, Instructional Technology/Media Services
Community College of Rhode Island
My memories of Charles are so vivid and bright just like the professor that he was during his tenure at CCRI. As a colleague for many years, he was a regular customer of ours in the former years when our department was known as Audiovisual Services, and recently, IT.
Charles always lit up the room with his infectious smile, grace and charisma whenever he came by to request AV support or technical assistance. We were fascinated to hear about his love for the arts and humanities as well as his journeys along the way.
He recently shared one of his travel journals with me when I was planning a trip to Italy. No guide could match his colorful descriptions or unique experiences shared with a select few. I will always treasure the gift of his well spoken words and his genuine friendship.
He was one very loved scholar and gentleman. It would be a wonderful tribute to see one of the theaters at CCRI named in his honor. Certainly, our fondest memories of Charles will continue here on campus and will far exceed his years on this earth.
Farewell, my friend and colleague.
Kelly Rogers
I had Charles Sullivan as an English professor in my freshman year, 2002. Simply put, he was an amazing professor and made learning about English incredibly fun! Professor Sullivan brought light and humor to the poetry of Emily Dickinson, Robert Frost, and many other greats. I am sad to hear that he passed but know that for those who were lucky enough to have had him as a professor, he will never be forgotten.
Sue Forman
Former Adjunct Professor of English
Community College of Rhode Island
I was saddened to hear of Charles Sullivan's passing. For many years while I was an English department adjunct at the Flanagan Campus, I saw Charles frequently. He was simply a cool guy, and I never heard any student complain about his classes. In fact, he was a popular teacher. I enjoyed his humor, sharp wit, and sometimes unexpected bluntness, characteristic of Charles.
Joan M. Mekuto '04
Charles Sullivan was my first professor at CCRI when I returned to college at the age of 47. I was in the midst of getting a divorce and beginning my life again from scratch. When I signed up for his class I thought it would be my last because of the fact that I had lost all my self confidence and self worth and knew I was destined for failure once again.
I was wrong. After one of our classes in the first week Charles asked me why my writing was so dark and full of pain and I explained to him how my life seemed so sad at the moment and how I perceived myself as a failure. My dear professor told me that even though my writing was dark it drew him in and made him curious about me; he said it was a very useful and engaging technique and that he could not wait to read my next paper. I was so honored! Someone actually believed in me! I was so eager to get to class everyday and my confidence grew and grew. I graduated from CCRI with highest honors and was vice president of the Phi Theta Kappa honor society and eventually got my bachelor's degree from RIC.
Professor Sullivan changed my life with his kind words and undying support and to him I owe him a lifetime of gratitude. How wonderful he was to me and many others. Charles was a very compassionate, intelligent and worldly gentleman but always had time for me or anyone who needed his help. His life was a life well lived and he brought to this world true love, courage and dignity. Thank you dear professor and friend, I shall miss you dearly.
Jeanne Grandchamp '72
In the CCRI photo tribute to Professor Charles Sullivan, I saw him the way I remember him from my British Lit classes in 1970-72. His loss made me wonder, "What has happened to us all?! How did we get to be our wrinkled selves when we once were those ... hippies?!" He'd laugh to hear me say that, if he remembered me at all. That last part doesn't matter, though; what matters is I remember him and the effect he had on this once-post-Catholic, uptight teenage girl. I recall one day when I was so focused on writing out my eight stanzas of "The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner," punctuation in the proper places--very nervous I'd get the assignment wrong. He, meanwhile, pranced from desk to light switch, flicked the lights on and off, then returned and danced on the desk! At the time I was flummoxed. Why wasn't he more serious about serious literature? Then, I began to understand the spirit, the sheer fun that was literature, because he could see it and he could transmit that spirit and fun to us, his students.
Damn, that's ME, now. I teach literature (among other things) at Bristol Community College and have for over 30 years. Often I think of Charles Sullivan and his passion for poetry and teaching and how he affected me--I have power to make students laugh out loud, but I suspect I wouldn't have known to look for it and tap it if it hadn't been for Charles Sullivan. I'd like to think somewhere out there he's proud of his part in "corrupting" me.
I tell a close friend of mine, another alumna of CCRI, Victoria Lague, who teaches college English, too, that if we're lucky, someone will remember us that way – as a lively inspiration who loved literature, students and writing.
Victoria Lague '75
Associate Professor of English
Miami Dade College, Kendall Campus
I am saddened to hear of the passing of Charles Sullivan. While a student at RIJC/CCRI, I never had the privilege of knowing Charles as a professor, but when I was adjunct faculty, Charles became my professor indeed. One semester, I taught at the Lincoln campus and was fortunate enough to share an office with Charles. He mentored me simply because he cared, and often unknowingly because I learned about teaching and counseling students from listening to him interact with his own students in the office. Every year when I donated to his scholarship fund, he took the time to write a short, personal note of thanks, which was very important to me. We may be sorry to hear that Charles has passed on, but can rejoice in a life fully and joyously lived.
Philip M. Johnston '10
I was introduced to Professor Sullivan last year by Professors Laurie Sherman and Ellen Mroz at a poetry reading at Liston Campus. As a young writer and student, I was told there was much to learn from the gentleman poet. This was true. Sadly, our time was limited to a few short months but he certainly left a lasting impression on me. He gave me a few quick words of writing wisdom through e-mail correspondence and gifted me a copy of a favorite novel of his after hearing me read. He sure did know how to flatter.
As a writer, his words had to be crafted expertly yet sounded so loose and simple. They were elegantly frank and efficient but his greatest attribute, as a man, was style. Yes, his trademark bold spectacles and bow tie (bright red when I met him) commanded attention and were tinged with grace and originality.
His clothes and attitude were just like those words of his, seemingly effortless upon first glance but obviously fine tuned once carefully studied by the perfect eye. The way he would take up a woman's hand, or smile a man's smile was a direct link to an era of gentlemen, who dressed well and lived better. Knowledge, writing and education were his passions but style was his calling card. That is how I will remember him.
May the gentleman in the red glasses and bow tie rest easy.
Mary Oyekoya '07
I had Professor Sullivan for Composition II about four years ago. He was a very unique man, always wearing his bowtie. He made English class exciting for me as English is not one of my favorite subjects. He was passionate about his work and greatly encouraged student participation with his thoughtful approach to teaching.
He will be dearly missed and I have only fond memories of him. Whenever he saw me whether in class, in the hallway, or even outside the school, he would always recite the poem, "Mary Mary, Quite Contrary." At the time, I did not know it was a poem, then he told me the story and asked about my sheep. He had a healthy sense of humor.
May his soul rest in perfect peace. Amen.
James Glickman
Professor of English
Community College of Rhode Island
It will be a world both colder and darker without Charles in it, right down to our no longer receiving one of his e-mails closing with his signature, "Cheers!" He took E.M. Forster's advice, "Only connect, that is the whole of the sermon," and made it into a joyous art form in teaching and in friendship. I always called him Sir Charles for his belonging to that small but open aristocracy of the gifted in spirit. He leaves behind hundreds of colleagues and thousands of students whose lives were touched and made better by his generosity, ebullience and grace.
Margaret Santos
Adjunct Instructor
Community College of Rhode Island
The lights at CCRI just got dimmer and will never be the same again, but we rejoice in knowing that Heaven just got a whole lot brighter. Charles' wonderful, loving, carefree, humorous spirit will be sorely missed. He was truly a gentleman and a scholar. I don't know one person who could say one bad thing about Charles; he was loved and admired by all. The love he shared with his students, his friends, his colleagues was outstanding. He strived and achieved with success in helping all mankind.
I knew Charles when he was student teaching at Central High School and he always made everyone feel comfortable in his/her own skin, never judging and always accepting. When I met him years later at CCRI, I found he had not changed. I was an advisor to the students' Third World Club, and he participated in many of our school activities and joined us on numerous educational trips, always helping, always loving regardless of anyone's color or race. He reached out to students and shared with them his knowledge and love of books. You could start a famous quote, and he would finish it, giving you the author's name and year the book was published. He was able to inspire and encourage students to "move on" and be the best that they could be. We all loved him! What a great legacy he left behind! Charles Sullivan will be sorely missed but he leaves behind a fragrance that will last a lifetime. Let us cherish our wonderful memories.
Theodore R. Clement '97
Assistant Professor of Drama
Community College of Rhode Island
When I first arrived at CCRI I had seriously undeveloped academic skills and very little motivation. Professor Sullivan, along with a few other teachers, endeavored to teach me to be a student. He taught me to be curious about my world. He taught me to be ambitious and seek achievement beyond expectation. I would never have had the courage to become a fulltime theater maker if it wasn't for him. When I transferred from CCRI, Charles wrote a glowing reference on my behalf. If I can be half the educator that he was, I'll consider myself blessed. I can't thank him enough. "Good-night, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."
Leslie J. Dolan, M.A.
Assistant Professor of English
Community College of Rhode Island
I was fortunate enough to have had Professor Sullivan in the summer of 1991. I was enrolled in one of his sections of ENGLISH-1250 Readings in the Short Story, at the Lincoln campus. That summer, I was finishing up a few courses before I entered my senior year at the University of Rhode Island. Until that summer, I had always enjoyed reading, but had set my sights on a career in business. I was set to graduate with a degree in communications the following May.
My experience in Professor Sullivan's class made such an impression on me as a student, a young woman, and as a member of the community. Sullivan's infectious passion for literature sparked such excitement in me and others in that class. I recall his animation as he explained Shirley Jackson's, "The Lottery" or Lawrence's "The Rocking-Horse Winner." His love for those stories would manifest itself in his twinkling eyes and wide grin.
Excitement can be contagious. I immediately enrolled in as many English courses as I could for the following fall and spring semesters at URI, in the hopes to relive that passion. And although other faculty members approach their love of literature in various ways, Sullivan's energetic seed had already been planted in me.
Charles Sullivan's approach to literature also stirred social awareness in many of us that summer. As a young woman, I was developing my own thoughts about society and human dynamics. Still naive and impressionable at the time, I was hesitant to stake claim in any one political party or organization. But learning, through Sullivan's guidance, about the struggles that writers themselves had had with social issues made me feel a bit more at ease about finding my own voice as a woman. His elaboration on stories like Hemingway's, "Hills Like White Elephants" sparked critical thoughts for me.
Furthermore, that summer I was inspired by Sullivan to make a difference. I set out to get involved in the community. Joining both arts-related groups and political organizations, I felt encouraged to do what I could to share my own love for the arts and my interest in the community. Ultimately, my need for community involvement led me to become a teacher, as well. So today, I write, as an assistant professor of English here at the Community College of Rhode Island, to share with you all that Charles Sullivan offered to me in that summer course. My vivid memories of his class and the specific stories we read serve as proof to his passion for life and the arts. I smile to think that I have now had the fortunate experience of teaching the very same course that he had taught to me almost twenty years ago. I am hoping that I can offer to my students what Sullivan had offered to me: and inspiration for greatness, an appreciation for the arts, a growth in critical thinking, and a desire for community involvement.
Thank you, Professor Sullivan. Thank you, Charles.
Ed Liston
President Emeritus
Community College of Rhode Island
Charles Sullivan was indeed the "poster boy" of the ideal faculty member. He was a scholar and a gentleman. He was also a good friend to all who knew him. Many times during my tenure at CCRI I listened to his wise counsel. He had no personal agenda but was always willing to join in supporting the Institution that he loved. May he rest in peace.
Dee and Tom Verrecchia
After a 50 year friendship, Charles' passing leaves an empty place in our hearts.
Peter N. Woodberry
Dean of Business, Science and Technology
Community College of Rhode Island
While I have many lasting fond memories of Charles, I now will recall may last vision of him. I literally bumped into him in the late afternoon on Tuesday, May 25, when he was leaving a doctor's appointment. We shared a quick handshake, a warm smile and a few words about our mutual love: CCRI. Hardly did I know he would be gone two days later.
Mary Benton Fuchs
Associate Professor of Art
Community College of Rhode Island
I was with Charles just three days before he left our part of the earth. It struck me at the time that he had really never looked better. He was cute, he was fun, he was thoughtful and he was inspirational. He was such an integral part of CCRI for so many of us that I am convinced he will never ever really leave us.
Maria A. Tamborelli
Assistant to the Dean of Health and Rehabilitative Sciences
Community College of Rhode Island
It is almost 10 years since I took a course with my dear friend Professor Charles Sullivan while also working here at CCRI. He was so inspirational and would always make me smile. Each time I saw him, either in the hall or at my desk, he would have words of wisdom to share. His wit and charm, and tender heart will always be special to me!
Steve and Yvonne Kadelski
One of the best instructors and students, faculty and staff will truly miss him.
Kathleen Beauchene
Professor of English
Community College of Rhode Island
A bulging leather briefcase filled with student essays (maybe even a few stamped with an "A" and accompanied by a perfectly penned "Terrific"), a paisley or polka-dotted bowtie, and smiling eyes behind crimson glasses—such are my concrete images of Charles, my office mate of 22 years. Specific stories and events, though, are blurred by profound sadness. What does surface is his full-throttle approach to everything, his grace, and his bluntness that bordered on the humorous. More than anything I remember Charles' love of teaching—even after four classes in a row, even after 40 years! His students are his legacy. They have inherited his vision, compassion, and inspiration. I hold up my imaginary glass to toast to a man well loved and a life well lived. As I do, I borrow his characteristic closing—"Cheers!"
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Madara making everyone fight in tournaments in the genjutsu does seem more like something he would do instead of just making the genjutsu a world of peace. Unless Madara changed so much that he just wanted peace rather then to fight.
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|2012-12-11, 14:43
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To me it seemed that Madara always uses just as much power as it is needed to have an interesting and risky fight, so i concluded that he wants to have fun by taking some risk. I mean he was always reacting to stronger attacks by activating stronger jutsu of his own. First sharingan, then EMS, then rinnegan. He could have ended quickly the whole thing with a perfect susano, but he just chose to have fun and he even stated that. Of course we could say that it's not Madara's will but the author wanted that the readers get an interesting fight, but if Madara started with a perfect susano right away then there wouldn't be any fight.
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If he really has infinite chakra as a zombie then he should be able to use his perfect susano as much as he wants, so then it's not a "trump card" which he uses only when no other option is given. But who knows, it may be that Edo Tensei has also a weakness that Kabuto didn't know, i mean infinite chakra simply sounds too simple, even dumb. And if Madara knows about that then it would make sense that he doesn't want to overuse his perfect susano because it's too much risk for him.
|2012-12-11, 17:10
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In other words, if someone were to actually find a way to counter perfect susano, he wouldn't have any other plausible techniques left that would be as effective (even with supposedly infinite chakra). With that said, it'd be hard to believe someone like Madara wouldn't have *something* else left to use in the unlikely event Susano fails. As you basically said, and now that I think about it, his mastery over the rinnegan must grant him other options that are just as (if not more) useful.
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|2012-12-11, 18:41
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Beyond that, I pretty much agreed with everything else.
|2012-12-11, 19:06
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At some point Madara tells to the hokages that nobody ever lived who saw it. So going by that he can spam it because it still remains a secret since everybody who saw the jutsu has been killed
But i guess that's not the full reality since the 1st hokage won against Madara, so he had to witness that monstruosity and also defeat it. And since it has already been defeated i don't think that it will be the ultimate move of Madara, his ultimate jutsu should be something that not even the 1st hokage would be able to beat.
|2012-12-11, 19:28
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but yea, i agree that perfect susano'o is a trump card, but it also wasn't used as a trump card imho. i think madara was just having fun as you said initially. he also wanted to try out the hashirama cells and wood element and then when he got bored with the kages he chose the quickest technique to destroy them so he could go see what obito was doing.
i'm sure madara has more up his sleeve, but so does perfect susano'o. we barely saw what it is capable of, so the next major fight madara has, he will assuredly use perfect susano'o and showcase all its abilities
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|2012-12-13, 00:57
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LOL, "he only had the intel on their abilities recently but he already made such a smart strategy! Thats Shikamarus dad for you" NO shit! people from stone use earth, mist use water, cloud use lightning, leaf use fire, sand use wind.... EVERYONE knows that
The war has gotten brutal and has drastically lowered my ranking of Naruto and how good the manga is..
Also how can Naruto go into sage mode without even gathering any energy.. kind of stupid, or hell gather for 2 seconds
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Bikaner is a city in north-west Rajasthan, India.
Get in
Bikaner can be reached by train from Delhi, Jaipur, Mumbai, Agra, Punjab and other major Indian towns. It can also be reached by road from Delhi Via Shekawati or Jaipur. The Highways are very good however the country roads in the shekawati region can be a bit of a dampner. The road from Jaipur Jaisalmer and Jodhpur are the best roads. The nearest Airport is Jodhpur (around 4.5 hours journey) and is well connected by road and rail. However, travelling via Jaipur (6.5 hours distance) gives you more option in terms of flight frequency and choice of Airlines. Overall it comes out to be cheaper (due to availablility of low-cost airlines) if you travel via Jaipur.
Get around
Getting around in Bikaner is best done using Trishaws and Tongas ( horse carts) due to the fact that streets are too narrow (so that they are not clogged with sand incase of a sandstrom which are very frequent) and busy for cars. These are very cheap and a day's hire shouldn't cost more that 250 rupees. Bicycles can be hired near the Railway Station.
For a foodie a visit to Bhujia Bazaar (yes Bikaner does have a market named on famous Bikaneri Bhujia) and Chai Patti is a must. You will just fall in love with the Kachoris and Samosas at Chai Patti.
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by Mike Masnick
Fri, Apr 29th 2011 6:33pm
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copyright, ed helms, mike tyson, tattoo, victor whitmillq
warner bros.
It really was just a couple of weeks ago that we asked the (we thought) hypothetical question of who owns the copyright on a tattoo, and noted it would be a good question for a law school exam. We did mention one case, but it was settled out of court. Now we may have another. Apparently the artist who designed the tattoo on Mike Tyson's face is suing Warner Bros. and seeking an injunction to block the studio from releasing the upcoming movie The Hangover 2. In that movie, Ed Helms apparently ends up with a tattoo quite similar to Tyson's (Tyson appeared in the first Hangover movie).
The tattoo artist, S. Victor Whitmill, did in fact register the design with the Copyright Office, and even got Mike Tyson to sign a release making it clear that Whitmill retained the copyright on the work. I would think that Warner Bros. has a number of potential defenses here, including parody fair use. It's certainly difficult to claim that this movie in any way diminishes the market for the original tattoo. My guess is that there may be some sort of quick settlement with Warner Bros. paying off Whitmill to make this go away, which is exactly what Whitmill wants. However, if it does go to court, we can see how good all of you were at answering that law school exam question we posited...
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Honest Injun, 29 Apr 2011 @ 6:59pm
Tattoo ownershipHow will this choad win when he aquired the design from Tā moko, the Māori face marking.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 29 Apr 2011 @ 9:32pm
Re: Tattoo ownershipThe same way Disney gets to own the copyright on its derivatives of European, Asian and American folk tales, I guess.
indeciSEAN (profile), 29 Apr 2011 @ 7:07pmFrom what I can tell, it's not even a very close replica - I think Warner could easily let this guy try and take them to court, only to be laughed out.
A shitty tribal tattoo is still just a shitty tribal tattoo, it just so happens few enough people are stupid/crazy enough to put them around their eyesocket and so we recognize what they're going for, with it.
Anonymous Coward, 29 Apr 2011 @ 7:17pmDoes the artist also get to cash in whenever some entity publishes a picture of Mike Tyson wearing the tattoo in question?
SUNWARD (profile), 29 Apr 2011 @ 7:36pm
simple solution in the futureactors will not be allowed to have tattoos if they appear in a movie.
Christopher (profile), 30 Apr 2011 @ 6:14am
Re: simple solution in the futureOr they will have to cover their tattoo with something if they wish to appear.
Mr. Oizo, 30 Apr 2011 @ 11:51pm
Re: Re: simple solution in the futureThink Teal'c and the hat.
McCrea, 1 May 2011 @ 9:37am
Re: Re: simple solution in the futureLike blur out Tyson's face everytime he's on T.V.?
darryl, 29 Apr 2011 @ 9:25pm
what so special about it?its just a new zealand Maori style tatt, nothing new here
The eejit (profile), 29 Apr 2011 @ 11:06pm
Re: what so special about it?That'#s the issue, it's been around longer than copyright itself has. The question is can you copyright Art?
Christopher (profile), 30 Apr 2011 @ 6:16am
Re: Re: what so special about it?Not when it is part of a cultural identity and has been used by MANY MANY people over the years.
Oded Burger, 29 Apr 2011 @ 10:18pm
Relevant caselaw
Anonymous Coward, 30 Apr 2011 @ 11:53am
Re: Relevant caselawMerely FYI, the rule within the federal courts is that a decision by a circuit court of appeals is binding only with the area of the US where the court has appellate jurisdiction. Presuming the case is pending in California, which is located within the 9th Cirsuit, a decision by the 2nd Curcuit is not binding. Of course, it may be relied upon by any other circuit for its analysis of the legal issues addressed in the opinion.
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Re: Re: Relevant caselawMerely FYI, I've never seen so many different ways of spelling circuit in one comment.
bigpallooka (profile), 30 Apr 2011 @ 3:38pm
Re: Re: Re: Revellent coleslawDreary FYI, I've never seen such a pointless post reply..........except maybe this one.
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Re: Re: Re: Relevant caselaw;)
I make no claim to being a good typist...but looking past that the reply is otherwise accurate.
theskyrider, 30 Apr 2011 @ 3:32am
Warner Bros deserves it.I have no sympathy for Warner Brothers or any copyright maximalist and the organizations they front. (RIAA, MPAA, You name it.)
They started this with their mine! minE! miNE! mINE! MINE! MINE! crap.
Let me tell you a story. "Once upon a time, a young girl who also happened to be an aspiring artist, walked into a museum with her sketch pad. She proceeded to sit in front of an artwork and make a copy of it on her pad. As she drew, an evil security guard admonished her for trying to copy famous art. The aspiring artist was not only crushed but escorted from the museum. The end."
Moral here? You tell everybody everything is copyrighted, (which is what the guard seemed to think), expect to be sued when you copy an idea. They opened this can of worms.
Making a strong point of copyright (IP) in trade negotiations is why Columbia is getting sued for showing the brief virtual destruction of some some statue in some country in South America.
Reap what you sow.
)Pretty soon fart and burp noise styles will be copyrighted and people will be afraid to pass gas in public.(
MrLemurBoy, 30 Apr 2011 @ 7:27amI know this lawsuit seems silly, but maybe he's just trying to save face.
The eejit (profile), 30 Apr 2011 @ 10:50am
Re:I see what you did there -.-
NullOp, 30 Apr 2011 @ 4:55pm
TatGive it up! Nice try. Just a money grubbing move....again!
Coughing Monkey (profile), 1 May 2011 @ 5:24am
Mike's inkIf clowns can have their faces patented so may tattoo artists.
Sailor Jerry's Intellectual Property, 1 May 2011 @ 6:50am
(C) copyright mark of the beast on a tatto
Sailor Jerry's Intellectual Property, 1 May 2011 @ 6:54am
(C) copyright mark of the beast on a tattooDammit! Double post!
I've seen an arm tatoo that included a (C) symbol, a date, and the tattoo "artist's" name. It was on a guy that I believe to be especially stupid, so I wasn't surprised by it. Especially Stupid Guy got this tattoo at least 8 years ago, in South Western Colorado. The tattoo didn't look particularly original to me, but I'm not an expert.
Billy Wenge-Murphy (profile), 1 May 2011 @ 11:05pmThat's a pretty stupid design; the kind of thing a kid draws in their notebook in math class
(Am I still allowed to say that when it's "cultural"?)
Dena drake, 28 Jun 2014 @ 6:50pmThere should be no laws for getting a tattoo that some one else had money hungry people in this world tattoo work is art
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When The Barcelona Cookbook showed up on my desk, I initially thought it was a Spanish cookery book, or perhaps a cookbook of tapas recipes. As it turns out, The Barcelona Cookbook is both of these and more. It is a collection of recipes from Barcelona Wine Bar and Restaurants, a group of six restaurants located throughout Connecticut. While the cuisine served at all of the Barcelona restaurants can loosely be called Spanish, the menu is peppered with international influences from the backgrounds of this restaurant group's two owners, Sasa Mahr-Batuz and Andy Pforzheimer.
Mahr-Batuz is a former professional tennis champion and restaurateur, and Pforzheimer is a Harvard-educated chef whose varied resume includes cooking dinners for the Harvard Lampoon, working with the legendary Jerimiah Tower, and creating menus for the Hard Rock Cafe. Mahr-Batuz fell in love with Spanish cuisine while playing tennis in Spain. He wanted to recreate the easygoing, glass-of-wine-and-a-bite atmosphere of a Spanish tapas bar but in Connecticut. Pforzheimer was working as a restaurant consultant at the time, and when Mahr-Batuz approached him with the tapas concept he was immediately sold.
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by Mike Masnick
Thu, Mar 15th 2012 8:37am
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There is something symbolic about the news that the Encyclopaedia Britannica is finally giving up on its printed product -- a product that was once more or less "required" for middle class families. Of course, if you'd asked me last week if Britannica actually still printed its books, I might have guessed they'd already stopped. Britannica had lost an awful lot of relevance even before Wikipedia came along, and its efforts to embrace the web have always come across as too little, too late in an era dominated by Wikipedia. While the ending of the print publication is a milestone, it seems unlikely to be an indication of fortunes turning around for Britannica.
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 8:46amI wonder if they are going to start hiring lawyers ... because that always seems to work, just look at the RIAA/MPAA ...
HATS, 15 Mar 2012 @ 8:50am
Re:[Insert lawsuit claiming infringement of RIAA/MPAA copyright in its business model of 'hire lawyers; sue everyone']
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 8:58am
Re: Re:Everyone knows business models get patented, not copyrighted.
HATS, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:03am
Re: Re: Re:Everybody knows your mum.
Also don't worry - the patent is copyrighted with a new form of copyright, that has itself been patented.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:05am
Re:Maybe if Wikipedia was copying the articles from Encyclopedia Brittanica, considering that's who the MPAA and the RIAA go after, the people who steal their content and then allow others to steal it.
Quinn Wilde, 15 Mar 2012 @ 8:55am
Telling....Britannica wordcount on Wikipedia: ~1400
Wikipedia wordcount on Britannica: ~7500
Which one sounds more comprehensive to you?
(It could just be that there's more to say about Brittanica than wikipedia... but both Brittanica and Wikipedia have self-referencing articles of similar length (wikipedia 10k, brittanica 12.5k)
HATS, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:00am
Re: Telling....Clarity and succinctness trump word count.
:Lobo Santo (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:03am
Re: Re: Telling....yes, provided your audience has the ability to read and comprehend... if one is forced to use many small words because medium-sized words with specific definitions confuse the audience then the whole word-count thing becomes...
Never mind, you're exactly right.
Clarity and succinctness and complete lack of ambiguity.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:30am
Re: Re: Re: Telling....Wikipedia is great either for general references or as a reference to someone who already spent a long time studying a technical subject and just wants a quick reference to something they learned a long time ago but mostly forgot.
You couldn't really use wikipedia to study a technical matter for the first time, you would need to either take a class or buy a textbook designed to teach the subject to you.
BentFranklin (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:13am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Telling....That's true of Brittanica and any other encyclopedia as well.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:26am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Telling....Other encyclopedias aren't even good references .... they're too general.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:06am
Re: Re: Telling....simple.wikipedia.org
HATS, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:15am
Re: Re: Re: Telling....Simple language is less technical, but does not guarantee greater clarity.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:30am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Telling....You are correct. simple.wikipedia.org is, however, good for a few laughs.
It's not because of it's accuracy or anything. It's because I find funny the way they try to explain complex topics in the same language a parent would try to explain them to a 3-year-old child :)
This doesn't mean that I don't applaud their effort, tough. I am sure that it useful and important to have.
monkyyy, 15 Mar 2012 @ 12:08pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Telling....it seems more clear to me, significantly less depth but far better clarity
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 2:18pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Telling....Lets see.
How Differential Gear works (BEST Tutorial) from the 30's explaining how a differential works to a 5 year old.
Comparing that to the modern version.
How a Differential Works and Types of Differentials from 2011 explanation.
Well, dunno but I'm going with the 5 year old explanation here, it explains how it works it shows you and helps you understand what it does and how it does it, the other one is prettier but it doesn't explain that well just says what the whole mechanism does and never bother to explain how they actually work you don't get to understand why the gears turn the way they turn it just says "trust me" it will do this, when it is not clear to everyone how the gears work really, that is why the 30's video is great it shows why the gears act the way they act and people have an easier time acquiring the knowledge of what they do.
With that said I agree simple language does not guarantee greater clarity for that the people doing the explaining need to be knowledgeable on what they are explaining so they can find the best approximation and means to explain something but simple language means common language that is accessible to a bigger group of people and with the ever growing need to share knowledge with other fields that is going to become a problem that every engineer/professional out there will have to learn something about it, you don't want doctors and programmers talking different languages there needs to be a common one that can be used for both of them to pass knowledge to each other it is becoming increasingly unacceptable to create terms that are only used in one area and not to others because it makes it difficult to work in large groups.
e.g.: Get a doctor to explain how a heart works and then get a mechanical engineer to explain how a pump works and then get an physicist to explain how a pump works all those terms used in different areas makes no sense to people outside, but they all explain the exact same thing and that can be explained in simple terms.
The myocardial muscle will contract pushing blood away.
The Tension ball will contract pushing blood away.
Today two groups of people need a third one to serve as a translation interface between everybody else, Steve Jobs although a tremendous jerk was a brilliant interface, he knew just enough engineering to understand what they were talking about and was able to be simple minded enough to understand the needs of other people, that is no easy task. That has other names some people call that managers, some call it coordinator, some call it GUI.
Simple language: The more simple you can communicate something a larger group of people you can reach and more benefits can be draw from it.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:05am
Re: Telling...."Britannica wordcount on Wikipedia: ~1400
Wikipedia wordcount on Britannica: ~7500
Which one sounds more comprehensive to you?"
Word count is irrelevant.
What counts is the intelligence and integrity of the writers and editors.
Britannica wins over Wikipedia hands-down.
Wikipedia,because of it's open-source nature invites self-serving or deliberately-inaccurate entries composed by those who wish to misdirect or present biased information.
How many times have articles about politicians or other public figures been modified to deliberately contain what could politely be called "inaccuracies"?
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:11am
Re: Re: Telling....Well, except that you're wrong.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 1:11pm
Re: Re: Re: Telling....TOR users please note that if you click on that link you will hit a paywall.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:15am
Re: Re: Telling....Concur. EB has always prided itself on having all entries vetted by subject matter experts for accuracy. WP is a very useful tool, but the absence of editorial control makes it useful primarily as a starting point for further research.
HATS, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:19am
Re: Re: Re: Telling....This. Wikipedia is good for what it is; it is not a replacement for a fully vetted encyclopedia. As you say, it is best used as the starting point for further research.
It has been interesting, as a university student for the past 7 years, to see the faculty position on Wikipedia gradually change from "It's rubbish and written by god knows who, and you should avoid it like the plague", to "Sure, use it to get a basic overview - just make sure that you confirm anything you're relying on with an external source."
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:33am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Telling....Whenever I hear this, I think: Encyclopedias were ever more than a place to start?
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:45am
Re: Telling....The English version of Wikipedia as 3,896,950 articles and again that just the English version, their are 100s of others, so how the hell can Wikipedia only 1400 words!
monkyyy, 15 Mar 2012 @ 12:11pm
Re: Re: Telling....to clarify his statement, wiki-ception
Ima Fish (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 8:56am"I might have guessed they'd already stopped."
I would have assumed they stopped back in the 90s. First CD-ROM encyclopedias killed any reason to buy a set of books. Then the internet killed any reason to buy a CD-ROM. I'm assuming only libraries were buying them.
When I grew up in the 70s we had an old set from the 50s. It was hilarious to read because any speculation about a future event, e.g., landing on the moon, were hilariously wrong. One article stated that to get to the moon we'd have to build an orbiting space station and then launch a craft from there. Good stuff.
ltlw0lf (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 1:19pm
Re:One article stated that to get to the moon we'd have to build an orbiting space station and then launch a craft from there. Good stuff.
Given the state of rockets in the 1950's, that would have been a true statement. It wasn't until we figured out how to build multistage rockets and launch them without them blowing up on the pad that we had enough speed to break orbit. Firing a rocket from a space station would require less fuel than from the ground, since you are further out of the well.
Encyclopedias are always out of date before they are even printed. Wikipedia catches up some because of the ease of editing.
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:13amI read about this earlier in the week. Apparently they adapted their business model long ago and the print version of their encyclopedia only represented 15% of their revenue. It appears they now are more focused on online educational tools.
Will the Encyclopedia Itself SruviveYou raise a very fundamental question. When a company seeks to explore new business areas; can that be considered "code" speak for eventually abandoning the encyclopedia itself.
Companies have been known to take a high quality product that customers like and cheapen the product to jack-up the profit margin. When the customers stop buying the product; it simply "dies". Will that be the future for Britannica?
Zakida Paul (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:23amI used to love looking up the Brittanica Encyclopedia for homework assignments. I can't tell you how many times I ended up reading about a topic unrelated to what I was looking up just because it looked interesting. I will miss the good old books.
BentFranklin (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:16am
Joe Publius (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:54am
Re: Re:It's a bibliophile thing. You might not understand.
Even now, over a decade after college, there's something about the smell of a library that's comforting.
John Fenderson (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 2:07pm
Re: Re: Re:Yes, I do miss this quite a lot. But times change, and the advantages of the new ways greatly outweigh the losses.
I will forever remain nostalgic about this, though.
Planespotter (profile), 15 Mar 2012 @ 9:55amI grew up with a set from 1975... they burnt well!
Anonymous Coward, 15 Mar 2012 @ 10:07amwasn't there some study that found wikipedia had fewer errors than EB?
monkyyy, 15 Mar 2012 @ 12:18pm
Re:there was http://news.cnet.com/2100-1038_3-5997332.html + the over time improvement rate far surpasses "eb"
Another Failure to AdaptThis is another instance of an industry leader that has failed to adapt to changing technology. One thing that made an me an instant convert to Wikipedia was its ability to have "small" stories concerning new content that Britannica would never bother with. (For example newly released movies).
The encyclopedia purest police have lambasted Wikipedia concerning quality control. Yes that is an issue, but I have also been able to find in Wikipedia analysis on obscure historical events that seem to be missing from Britannica. I will even suggest that Britannica is "censoring" history by limiting their articles to only "approved" pundits. And who is to say that the "approved" pundits are unbiased anyway.
aldestrawk (profile), 16 Mar 2012 @ 11:53amI use Wikipedia nearly everyday mostly as a first step in researching technical stuff related to computers and the internet. One of my gripes about the quality of the articles that I usually read is that they have been "dumbed down" over the past few years. This is an intentional trend by Wikipedia to make all their articles more encyclopedic. However, by making those articles more accessible to the general public but less useful to me personally. The links and references in the articles are very useful though. I see a niche for on-line encyclopedia(s) that are narrow in scope but more detailed and more technical than Wikipedia for science and technical subjects. I cannot compare the Encyclopedia Britannica though as my set is the 1926 edition. (No, I am not THAT OLD!)
whocares, 25 Mar 2012 @ 11:03pm
yes, well ..Wikipedia is for 5-year-olds and Americans.
Any electronic resource, be it Wikipedia OR Britannica, is ok for general quick reference, but as a research tool it is totally useless.
A serious researcher must cite reliable and consistent sources. How can you cite a source that doesn't remain static? If the article is different today compared to yesterday, then it's not the same article, and I cannot cite it in my work because that means nobody else can refer to it.


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|In conjunction with the premiere of Thomas Campbell's new surf film, The Present, which premiered at the Victoria Theater in SF the same weekend.
"YAR: Art stuffs derived from the surf film The Present"
Mollusk Surf Shop
March 27th - April 24
It was packed as hell when I got there. Fought to get to the back room to see the art. In the future they might want to consider removing the product tables when they have events. Especially when live music is part of the equation. The posters and original works were wonderful to look at. Great photos and posters that evoked the sea and surf. The crowds prevented better photos and it was a exercise in bump and grind to get close enough to get a good shot of Tommy G. and guests playing. The music sounded great and the pizza at The Pizza Place a few blocks away was a perfect ender to that part of the night. I ended up helping Porous until 2am.
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Germany's large Turkish population has come under the microscope of the government, which wants to crack down on those who hold dual citizenship.
Germany no longer tolerates dual nationalities
In order to keep German-Turks from voting illegally in next month's crucial state elections in North Rhine Westphalia, the German government has begun going after those who hold dual citizenship.
Only German nationals are allowed to vote in Germany, and citizenship laws reformed in 2000 forbid Germans from holding any other passport. But roughly 50,000 of the country's 2 million strong Turkish community still do, and Interior Minister Otto Schily announced this week that the government wants to find out who.
In talks with his Turkish counterpart, Abdulkadir Aksu, Schily asked for a list of all Germans of Turkish descent who had received a Turkish passport after 2000. Both the interior minister and his colleagues in the opposition Christian Democratic party want to keep dual nationals from voting in the May 22 election.
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Some in the Turkish community have responded angrily to the plans. Many of those with dual citizenship weren't aware of the change in law and now fear new paperwork, even deportation, if they tell the German government. Businessman Ekber Bialoglou said the aggressiveness of Schily's plan angers him.
"Considering their past, Germans should deal with this problem with much more tolerance and moderation," said Biagloglou. "They should be happy if someone wants to become a German national or decides to live his life in Germany."
Turkish organizations have tried to talk to local governments to come up with a solution to the issue but without much luck.
"In every law, especially one like this, there is normally a transitional period before it comes into effect. This could have been done here as well," said Hakki Keski, head of the Association of Turkish Communities in Hamburg.
Government depends on good will
Only people with German nationality can vote
At the moment, the government has no real way of knowing who has dual citizenship. Cities have been sending out letters to German-Turks asking for information. If those with two passports head to the voting booths, they could get in legal trouble, said officials. But if they come to local immigration offices the problems should be solved fairly quickly, said Dethleff Feige, spokesman for the city of Essen.
"We expect a pretty good response from all these people," he said. "Of course, they would then have to give up their Turkish nationality, but for that, they will get the German."
With his readings from Hitler's "Mein Kampf," Serdar Somuncu wants to unmask the absurdities of right-wing logic. On his new tour "Hitler Kebab. Separate Checks," the German-Turkish artist delves into his own heritage.(March 23, 2005)
A survey conducted by the European Union's racism watchdog has revealed waxing intolerance among Europeans towards immigrants. (March 17, 2005)


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QUETTA, Pakistan (UPI Next) -- Nasir Khan, a waiter with a polio-stricken 3-year-old son, is one of the faces of a boycott of polio vaccinations by conservative Islamic leaders in Pakistan who claim the campaign is a Western conspiracy to limit Muslim populations by causing AIDS and sterility.
Khan, who lives away from his village, said his wife turned vaccinators away after religious leaders warned the drops are harmful.
"Even my family was visited by the female vaccination team [recently] and my wife had refused to vaccinate my only son," Khan told UPI Next. "My son will be crippled forever due to a polio attack."
Public health officials say the populations of conservative regions of Pakistan, Afghanistan and northern Nigeria are difficult to vaccinate, in part because of widespread belief that the drops are a plot to cripple their children and reduce the birthrate. Opposition has grown since the 2012 U.S. assassination of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, an effort that included using a Pakistani doctor running a fake vaccination effort to collect information on bin Laden.
The World Health Organization's 2013 Global Polio Eradication Initiative fact sheet said 27 Pakistani children have been stricken with polio so far this year, compared with 29 for all of 2012.
One of only three endemic polio countries, Pakistan's informal opposition to the vaccine began in the early 2000s, when the United States led the invasion of Afghanistan, and then Iraq.
Khan said his village maulvi, or local Islamic leader, has told worshipers not to take the vaccine. An unknown number of Muslim figures across the Afghan border have also forbidden use of the vaccine after the Abbottabad raid.
Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan spokesman Shahidullah Shahid said the organization was not opposed to the vaccine before the assassination of bin Laden.
"Now we know the strategy of the infidels is to arrange such campaigns, which are intended for espionage and targeting our leadership rather than anything else," he told UPI Next.
"We appeal to the workers whether they are male or female doctors, health workers, teachers and every kind of volunteer not to be part of polio campaigns, otherwise they are themselves responsible for being targeted by our mujahedeen."
The highly contagious polio virus is transmitted by water and can leave its victims -- usually young children -- partially paralyzed.
WHO, which once predicted the world could be free of polio by now, has said Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2011.
WHO spokeswoman Sonia Bari said 22 vaccinators were killed in 2012, most of them women working in the most deeply religious districts of northwestern Pakistan.
The U.N. agency says Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria are the only countries where polio is still endemic. This summer, the virus again swept conflict-weary Somalia, and in August turned up in a river in northern Israel, news reports said.
Shafia Bibi, 38, living in Chaman, a remote village near the Afghan border, refused to let her children be vaccinated, "because the drops are given for the purpose that the children may not be able to have a larger size family."