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I've wanted to say this for a long time, but have held back. No more.
Get that through your head. Gura is a man fighting for our rights. Nothing more, nothing less. People here tend to idolize him and put him up on a pedestal to the point that he's infallible and can do no wrong. Gura fights from a judicial aspect, because that's his specialty. Wayne/NRA fight from the public and private sphere. He is not God either. Does anyone really think that the NRA doesnt share Gura's view that the 2A is a fundamental, civil right? If that's the way that Wayne would have responded, he would have been absolutely TORN apart. There's a time and place for insisting upon our constitutional, GOD GIVEN rights......but his press conference was NOT the place to fight a constitutional crisis on the 2A.
People were looking for answers. "Why did this happen?", "How could this happen?", "What are we going to do about it to prevent it in the future?" That's not the realm that Gura deals with. If Wayne got up there and started spewing how they cant restrict a dang thing because we have our 2A civil rights, he'd look like a blithering moron because 1) It doesnt answer ANY of the "why" questions, 2) It's not helpful in preventing future crazies from going postal, and 3) It would make him look like he didnt care if it happened in the future again. He was giving reasons for the madness, and answers to prevent it. He was speaking to people like you and me.....not to Supreme Court justices.
Gura and LaPierre come from two different sides under the Gun Rights umbrella. For Gura to attack him like that is absolutely NOT helpful. He needs to leave Wayne to his sphere of influence and stick to his own.
If violent video games & movies are responsible for acts of violence by criminals, then the parents of those criminals should be charged with conspiracy, if they allowed their kids to play or watch those games/movies before the age of 18. That bogus argument is the same that was made about music & immorality since the 1950s.
Belknap & Vance were not murdered because of Judas Priest, only their own stupidity. Start @ 2:15
As with many polarized issues in our country these days, the independents are the ones that hold the true deciding power. Every effort should be made to win them over if you want to be successful. If they are not on your side, you have an uphill battle every single time.
I was made to keep both of them in a buddies barn an hour away because lord help my mother (who couldn't bring herself to have them trashed because she had a lot of love for her uncle) if a gun were to ever come into her house.
Now, 21 year old trying to work out a plan to make rent so I can leave, have a handgun in my room and a safe at capacity with the guns I've slowly acquired over time.
Also been a few other friends and relations I've worked on with it and succeeded.
The thing to remember, is even though it's unfortunately a minority (larger than a cynic wants to think) of people, there are a lot of folk out there who are 'big' enough to admit when they're wrong. They're ignorant because they've never really thought about or are surrounded by others that they trust who hold that opinion, and so have never had to question it.
All you need to do is be willing to discuss it, be honest when you do, be able to answer questions on the philosophical arguments, and have your evidence in line for the fact based ones.
You'd be shocked how many people are willing to listen if you talk to them about it instead of talking at them about it.
"So, the brutal, merciless, savage mass murderer of first-graders in Connecticut was another in a long line of avid video game players who turned their sick fantasy into our tragic reality. Surprised?
I train military and law enforcement nation-wide, on the road almost 300 days a year for 15 years. I was an Army Ranger and a West Point Psych Professor. An author of many very successful books on this subject. This is the perspective that I come from...
Bottom line: From a military and law enforcement perspective, violent video games are "murder simulators" that train kids to kill. They act just like police and military simulators, providing conditioned responses, killing skills, and desensitization, except they are inflicted on children without the discipline of military and police training.
Research on the background of our juvenile mass murderers show they have one thing in common: they ALL dropped out of life and filled their lives with nothing but violent movies and violent video games. The sickest video games and the sickest movies are very very sick indeed. And the sick sick kids who immerse themselves in this "entertainment" are very sick indeed.
Jonesboro in the middle school, Columbine in the high school, Virginia Tech in the college, and now this generation gives us Sandy Hook as adults
The Sandy Hook massacre has been building for years. And there is much, much worse yet to come. (They are NOT "shootings" they are massacres ... five died in the "Boston Massacre" which touched off the American Revolution six murdered in the "St. Valentines Day Massacre" many times more were murdered in Sandy Hook and we hide the reality from ourselves by calling it a "shooting" "shooting" is what happens on the range a "shooter" is the guy who got lucky during deer season! These are brutal mass murderers, committing savage massacres unlike anything seen in human history.)
This has all been building up for years. Consider the stats on officers murdered in the line of duty in the US:
'08: 42
'09: 48
'10: 56
'11: 72
Anyone see a pattern here? Medical technology is holding DOWN the murder rate. The number of murdered cops should be going down every year.
These are criminals who practiced killing cops since they were six years old, every day of their lives, playing Grand Theft Auto, and now they are primed to kill cops as adults.
If we intentionally tried to raise a generation cocked and primed to kill, we could not have done a better job.
The answer? Parents MUST enforce the rating system. They MUST understand the danger. To do that, they must be informed by our media! And the schools must begin to educate their kids! Go to www.TakeTheChallengeNow.net to learn about a school TV-turnoff curriculum pioneered by Stanford Med School and demonstrated to cut school violence and bullying in half!
An "M" (mature, 17 and above ONLY) rated game is the same as an "X" rated movie! The people who manufacture the game say so. Their own industry says so! A "T" (teen) rating means no child under 13 should play the game. Period. It is a very tragic, horrendous situation when adults let their children immerse themselves in M rated games! Just like, sex, gambling, porn, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, guns, and automobiles: these are all things that adults must not give to kids!
Not all of the kids who play these sick games will become killers, but they will all be desensitized to human death and suffering, intentionally and realistically inflicted by themselves, for their own entertainment
If YOUR child is one who commits a brutal crime, and YOU let them play these sick games, then the blood is on your hands too (And YOU may well be the first one to die, as with this most recent incident.)
This is NOT business as usual in America. Never lose your sense of outrage that every kid in America has to do lock-down drills, practicing "hunkering down and hiding" for when kids come to kill them. Never lose your sense of outrage that all of our cops practice going in our schools and shooting our kids with "active shooter response plans." These things are necessary, they work, they deter violent acts and they can save lives and hold down the body count when it does happen, but they are not normal. This is NOT just another day in America. This is NOT "business as usual" in America Something is very, very wrong.
And it is a world-wide phenomenon! Germany has had two mass murders in their high schools with body counts that beat Columbine. England had a massacre in the kindergarden class in Dunblain Scotland, tragically forecasting Sandy Hook. Canada had the Taber, Alberta school massacre. Finland has had three school massacres. In Norway the killer got on an island and killed all their kids. In China killers are going in the classrooms with knives and gutting and hacking the kids. In Belgium a sicko got in the day care center and hacked 12 babies in the cribs, dressed as the Joker form the Batman movie. (All those European gun laws made THEM real safe, eh?)
And we though it wouldn't happen here!?
And you think it's over now? The worst is yet to come. We will reap what we sow for a generation to come . Until we stop teaching our kids to kill."
Alright, so all the killers played games.
So what? Just about every male in the 18-30 age group does.
These people played violent games.>They massacred people>Games lead to murder
Is the same fallacy as Britain Banned Guns>Gun Crime went down>Crime is lower.
It's a selection bias, and not a useful metric. Can you show me source material that says otherwise, or just Dr. Grossman's opinion on the matter?
I strongly suspect they wouldn't help Lt Col Grossman's argument.
The other thing that's changed is that we emptied the contents of hundreds of insane asylums on to the streets and I'm not sure what we can do about that without opening a new civil rights can of worms.
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I was disappointed by Gura's remarks. Frankly, in all of this, the NRA's suggestion that we put an armed presence in our schools is the only thing that has even a minimum chance of improving the situation. No other offered "solution" will work due to constitutional/social/mechanical reasons. The hilarious thing is that the NRA proposed cops and/or armed civilians. A few days before, Senator Boxer proposed using the National Guard. Yet LaPierre is the crazy one in the room?
So Gura wants to get in front of Cato and bash the NRA. Fine. Just out of curiosity, what are Gura's recommendations for ways to reduce the number of mass murders that we're seeing in gun free zones? Since he's so eager to throw stones, I'm sure he has a stellar proposal that's even better than what LaPierre suggested.
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* 1911 We adopted the 1911
* 1914 World War I begins
I am going to claim that because of the excess of 1911 handguns, Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated. I will back this argument with nothing else.
There is simply zero proven causal link here, a weak (r < 0.5) correlation at best with say kids who are already violent becoming more violent.
The article quoted perpetuates the same hysteria as antis do: let's remember, most gun violence is in the ghettos and not in the schools (and certainly not in white suburban schools!), school shootings are tragic but if you *or* the antis want to do something about gun violence, they should attack where the problem is acute *first* and then go from there.
Finally murder and violence rates have actually been falling across the board, in general -- killing of cops, while disgusting, don't represent killing in general. You could also argue that the rate of policing has been increasing, so since more cops are at risk, more cops are killed.
Again, I don't own a tv, don't plan to own one, and I've laid out my rule I'd suggest for letting kids play video games: other than a few non-violent, educational ones, the only other ones you get to play are the ones you write yourself (I've known a few kids who grow up like this, who built adventure/interactive fiction games as a result, that not only taught them programming, but also boosted their verbal fluency and imagination). However, that's my individual choice. I have zero right to impose that on others.
I'm merely arguing to an individual right to play, own, or manufacture video games. This is a red-herring. All it does is make the principled free speech advocates shirk from you and not join foices (when even the legal arguments that are being used here -- due process, what constitutes protected exercise, what does not, etc...) are actually very similar.
I'll say this: if you want free speech advocates who are unfamiliar with guns to err on your side when you argue that "assault weapons" don't constitute dangerous exercise of 2A, you should be willing to err on their side when they say that violent video games don't constitute dangerous exercise of 1A. Stick to principles people, principles. We can't hope to turn unprincipled opponents (the "morally flexible" crowd I deal with that likes to shoot guns, but also wants gun control for everyone else: to whom no right is sacred, just as no other ethical statement is) around, but we can hope to appeal to core love of liberty of the more principled ones.
When the NRA issued its statement that directed attention to video games and movies, I was disappointed and believed it was an error. Keep in mind, I have never played a video game. After reading Lt. Col. Grossman's book, and listening to him speak, I believe this man has excellent insights into human behavior. Also keep in mind, that I have a strong bias against the mental health profession. When I read, that all of those murderers played video games and that they were all on SSRI drugs, I can't ignore the connections.
Image is everything. It's an old saying that is taken more to heart today than ever before. In the world of social media, it's at the top of the list.
Wayne LaPierre, to me at least, comes across as kind of an old codger that doesn't feel comfortable in his own skin. It's hard to listen to what it is he is saying, because I keep thinking about other things in regards to his delivery. Gura on the other hand seems calm and confident in his manner and speech, and I find it easier to actually listen to what he has to say. If we are trying to connect with the younger generations, and try and get them to understand what exactly gun rights, and the second amendment are about, then I think we need to find more people like Gura to advance that message. Although people like Alex Jones and Ted Nugent are entertaining and are somewhat high profile, they likely represent another segment of the gun debate that won't advance the cause. We need to find people that come across as level headed and most importantly sane, or we will be shooting ourselves in the foot continuously.
This is where the dichotomy is and where the concerns are.
Alan's not that interested in 'solutions' nor does he have to be; a civil rights platform acknowledges bad
things can happen under freedom, but freedom is worth the cost. Crime would be way lower if all our
speech were monitored to and from our work camps ;-) The current seats on the Supremes seem to get
this to some extent. And so has the 7th Circuit in Moore v Madigan, etc.
The worry is that a few of WLP's statements might couple back into lower court judicial 'reasoning' ("Omigod
even WLP said it could happen anywhere") and decrease some case velocity here & there.
As far as 'holding Congress', it was probably OK. They're fogies and can change their damnation to somethin'
new-fangled like video games - i.e., WLP gave 'em preloaded talking points and changed the subject from the
yes/no on guns (or gun variants).
As far as NRA recruitment, it was probably substandard, as I said above: 80% of our younger shooters play
Call of Duty on their Xbox and are perfectly nice people. Their reaction will be one of cross-generational
puzzlement if this tack keeps being pushed.
Wholly missing is SSRI meds discussion.
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What data is he basing his position on, or is it just how he 'thinks' the score is?
I have no problem with people having conflicting opinions, but I don't like it when I can't see the evidence they're using to back them up.
The NRA's position on video game violence is completely wrong. The majority of games kids play nowdays are actually less likely to make them go on a crazy rampage because of the switch from single player to multiplayer games. Now, instead of games which simulated massacres and very dark and satanic imagery, we have multiplayer games where you have to work as a team mostly with your friends which greatly lightens the mood for most gamers. Add completely ridiculous game physics (like shotgun spread) and you have a hilariously unrealistic world.
I actually like doom and duke nukem, but after a while of playing it, I get tired and sickened of such games. For me it's like clearing my home by myself, I start jumping a shadows.
The Dark Knight was really crazy and had senseless violence but overall movies switched from actually having a story to superhero bambi movies. Basically it involves a superhero who can never be killed. He completely lays waste to the enemies (which are stereotypical "evil people") and walks out in sunglasses trying to be cool. +1 if you band a bunch of superheros together. How is these movies cause shootings?
All people (even gun owners) love to lay blame on things despite the fact that those things have been proven to not cause violence.
As it is, no that's not what I meant. Gura needs to stick to 2A civil rights focus with the courts, while LaPierre needs to stick to pressuring congress critters to support and uphold 2A civil rights and be the representative for people like us.
I'm not generally a fan of the war on drugs (even though I've never had the slightest interest in using them), but I do think that SSRIs especially when prescribed for off-label uses in kids need to be looked at with more caution. I am sure they are very useful drugs to people who need them, but given things like Serotonin syndrome, interactions with street drugs, etc... when physicians dose patients, they be sure the cure is not worse than the decease for those specific patients.
If you want to live in a free society where people can have guns and play video games and listen to rock music and don't have to worry about being locked away in a mental hospital for making doodles as teenagers, tragedies like Newtown are going to happen. They cannot be stopped. Arming teachers is a dumb idea because, as Gene Hoffman explained a week or two ago, presenting guns as the solution to everything is just as lame as insisting guns cause all the problems.
A lot of folks around here like to say, "Freedom is not free." I am not sure they really recognize what that means. The cost of freedom is the occasional Newtown, the occasional Charles Whitman.
The only places where these things don't happen is in police states.
Not this Dave Grossman again.
He is NOT the authority on "video game induced violence". Unless I suppose you also believe Brady is the authority on "gun violence". And to save some time, don't bother quoting Jack Thompson either.
Some people still don't seem to understand these simple forms of causal fallacies. Here are some examples:
-100% of prisoners drank milk when they were young. Thus milk causes you to commit crimes.
-Most of the mass murderers used firearms. Thus guns kill people.
Sometimes I really wish we could mandate critical thinking/logic classes in schools. Because most people seem to be in desperate need of that skill.
You know how pro-gun people like to say, "hey, 80 million gun owners didn't go out and shoot someone today." Guess what? The vast majority of video game players didn't go out and wreck carnage today either. It's amazing to me how pro-gun people can be so incapable of reflecting on their own actions in respect to other liberties. Firearm rights isn't the only liberty that exists, and no one benefits from such myopia.
re: the violence aspect of video games and movies. I wish people would understand that there's likely a vast difference between how a normal, rational, sane person responds to a culture awash in violence, and how a mentally unstable lunatic might respond to it. Since the truly unstable are relatively rare in our society, the chances of the increase in their violent actions showing up in a statistically meaningful way is low.
At the end of the day, I think the mass gun free zone shootings are a combination of a popular culture that glorifies violence, a video game culture that desensitizes the mentally unstable towards violence, and the proliferation of firearms. Yet I would not change our popular culture, tone down video games, or reduce the availability of firearms. Instead, I think the right answer is to get rid of "come shoot me zones." If that makes me crazy like a LaPierre, so be it.
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Randy, do you know what you and Lt Col Grossman are starting to sound like?
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A more reliable way of detecting emerging signs of craziness is looking at whether the person has friends, whether the person has been bullied, the person's family, and external pressures like schoolwork... etc. These do much more than movies and video games because everybody knows that movies and video games aren't real. But these issues are real. The reason I think games and shootings have been related was during a time when games were single player and thus used by solitary people hiding from the real world.
There is a ton of research on video games and movies and whether or not they make those who play/watch them more violent.
And none of those studies have proven that kids were more violent because they played video games. In other words, there is ZERO scientific evidence that Call of Duty makes players more violent or susceptible to go postal on their classmates or co-workers.
Are movies and video games more graphic and more violent than they used to be? Sure.
But let's not forget kids in the past were exposed to a lot more real life violence than today's kids. Domestic violence was common and seldom punished or even condemned. Fighting was considered a manly way to settle disputes. People would take kids to hangings and lynchings. Racism, sexism and homophobia were not just common place, they were an accepted norm in most communities.
So let's not reminisce on the good old times here. Violence in video games and movies is a red herring.
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How about the full video be posted instead of just one clip:
Gura has become something of a cultural folk hero to a lot of people in the gun rights movement. He's also becoming something of a gun rights ambassador. He should keep these points in mind when he speaks in public.
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Not a single mind in America was changed by La Pierre's statement. The NRA base cheered; NRA skeptics remained skeptical.
And more than a handful of NRA members became skeptics too.
I'm grateful for BOTH the NRA and Mr. Gura.
Because of the former, I've still got my guns despite a great many politicians who would rather I didn't. Because of the latter, I believe there's a pretty good chance the next generation won't lose their gun rights.
Making guns illegal is as stupid as making drugs or prostitution illegal.
Or, at least, they didn't. Maybe they do now. It's not looking like it, though...
The Constitution is not "the Supreme Law of the Land, except in the face of contradicting law which has not yet been overturned by the courts". It is THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, PERIOD. You break your oath to uphold the Constitution if you don't refuse to enforce unadjudicated laws you believe are Unconstitutional.
The real world laughs at optimism. And here's why.
What we need are people who can talk to those on the fence, or those willing to listen - and there are plenty of those.
We won't win this either by making it political. We need to bridge a cultural gap.
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Is violence in the media and video games responsible for increased violence in our society? Should we ban violent games? No and no.
Everything is rated for an intended audience. You can't buy a mature rated game or movie if you are not of the proper age. So why do I hear screaming 13 year old children (kicking me ***) on call of duty? Because their parents don't pay any attention to their children. I grew up with video games being a major part of my recreational activities and it continues to be and always will. I wasn't allowed to play grand theft auto or even Tekken when I lived with my mom and pop. Maybe its because I was adopted by a very old couple (65 and 74 at the time).
Simply put, if a child reenacts something they saw on TV, its the parents fault for exposing them to content they don't fully understand. Video games and movies are not anymore to blame than firearms. Society is, spend time with your kids and your community.
And before anyone says it, yes I am a father and my daughter is young. She only needs to see something once or twice to pick it up.
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Anyone who calls a video game a "murder simulator" has no more credibility than someone who calls an AR owner a "baby killer".
This is a case of Alan Gura preaching to the converted. While many (though probably not all) gun owners consider gun ownership to be a civil rights issue, it should be obvious to everyone that the Democratic Party, the press, and a large section of the public do not. Or they think that if it is a civil right, it should be curtailed. The NRA was right to conclude that the fear-mongering being stirred up by the Democratic Party and the press ("For the children!!!") must be dealt with head on, hence their proposal for armed guards in schools. One should never underestimate most people's sense of practicality and lack of regard for the constitution. A constitutional or first principles argument is not going to persuade anybody in the grip of "For the children!!!"
Personally I think the NRA needs a full makeover. Most people in my generation see the NRA as a bunch of gray bearded old men with evil looking black and gold NRA hats. I even had one young friend ask "is the NRA even relevant anymore?"
Alan Gura is spot on with his statements. I couldn't have said it better. The libertarians have it right.
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Is there any research on the effect of violent video games on people who are mentally ill?
Just like we wouldn't give a gun to someone who is unfit, is it wise to have someone who is unfit play violent games or would there be no effect at all?
If there was a correlation, that would bring up 1A restriction question with no way to do anything yet what the Gov is trying to do with guns; ban them all.
Whether 2A or 1A, that is the cost of freedom. The problem is when you have 300 million, small percentages, such as .0001 % of people is still a big enough number
Overall I'm not comfortable on a "war on the mentally ill" either. It's certainly wrong that Rikers Island is currently the biggest mental institution in the country, but we have to remember that they're more likely to be victims of violent crime than its perpetrators. If your goal is to decrease violence, then stigmatizing the mentally ill further than they already are and scaring them away from treatment (especially the people who need treatment the most), will actually increase violence and work against you.
The big issue I have is that the video game players ARE the future of the NRA. These guys play the games, then they buy and shoot the same guns in real life. This is a demographic that the NRA just threw under the bus. This would be tantamount to abandoning the hunters or high power rifle competitors.
Not a wise move.
"We don't discuss the governor's arsenal in detail" - Brown spokeswoman Elizabeth Ashford
The big issue I have is that the video game players ARE the future of the NRA. These guys play the games, then they buy and shoot the same guns in real life. This is a demographic that the NRA just threw under the bus. This would be tantamount to abandoning the hunters or high power rifle competitors.
Not a wise move.
"We don't discuss the governor's arsenal in detail" - Brown spokeswoman Elizabeth Ashford
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Main Features
- Security appliance
- 10 GigE
- rack-mountable
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Visionis and Vezco FPC-6991 Professional Integration Security IP 4 Bullet Cameras DVR with 2TB HD Included, 2 door Access Control with 10,000 users outswing 300lb maglock exit button and IP Intercom kit
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ATTENTION: Before purchasing, it is recommended that the customer checks with their local fire authority to see if there is any additional product they may need in order to comply with the local fire codes. We are not responsible for the improper installation of our product(s) or any type of fees that can be incurred by not complying with your local fire authority.
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Kit Includes
(1) VS-AXESS-2ETL: Two Door Network Access Control Panel Controller Board with Cabinet TCP IP Wiegand with Desktop Software and Power Supply Included 10,000 Users
(3) VIS-ML300LED: 300lbs Indoor Electric magnetic with LED Sensor
(2) VIS-3100: Access Control Black Outdoor IP66 Card Reader Only Compatible with Wiegand 26 Bit
(3) VIS-7005: Ultra Thin Request to Exit Button with LED light for Door access Control
(1) VZ-IP-INT1DS: One Channel Outdoor Station IP Video Intercom HD 1.3 MP with Built In Access Control Reader 256 Card Users and Remote Unlocking
(1) VZ-IP-BUTIDS-WI: Touch Screen and Touch Pad Video Indoor IP and Wi-Fi Station Intercom Monitor 7 Inch Screen
(20) VS-VIS-APROXCARD-26THCOMBO: Access Control Proximity Contactless Smart Entry Card 1.8mm Thick EMT1400 and Mifare
(4) VZ-IP-B4530: 4MP CMOS Network Bullet Camera
(1) VZ-NVR-81080-P: NVR-8CH-80Mbps, Full 8ch Independent PoE
(4) VISCP100: 12v 1000mA Power supply, UL listed.
(1) INT-WD20PURZ: 2TB WD Purple Surveillance Hard Disk Drive
(2) 2 amp power supply
This kit has a 5 year warranty with full access to tech support in the USA!
General Attention:
- In these kits you will find that there are two different kinds of brands, Visionis and Vezco. In your shipment you will receive separate diagrams: 1 for Access Control, 1 for IP Video Intercoms, 1 for CCTV.
- You will also receive instruction on how to download the VSAXESS or VEZCOPRO software. You will have the choice to download either software to complete the full integration of Access Control, IP Video Intercom and CCTV.
- The intercom outdoor station has a built in reader, however, the reader is not compatible with the desktop software on the reader of the intercom, you will not be able to collect any data from your users. Only on the readers that are included in this kit as part of our access control integration.
Access Control:
- In the shipment we will include the instructions to download the software.
- Power supply and power cord included.
- Install wires are not included
- Wireless doorbell is to be used for one door. If more doorbells are need, they are sold separately.
- This software is not compatible with MAC computers, only with Microsoft.
- The access control portion of this kit is only compatible with the desktop software not the mobile app. You will not to view anything on a mobile app.
IP Intercoms
- You must plug in this system to your LAN. If you do not have internet connection, this will not work the way it is supposed to.
- The only card compatible with this system is model Number. VIS-APROXCARD/26THCOMBO. You may not use card model No. VIS-APROXCARD/26 or Model No. VIS-AKEYTAG . At the moment no keytag is compatible with this product.
- This system only uses Mifare cards not EM cards.
- There are 3 ways to open the door remotely. 1). Via the Monitor 2). Via the mobile app 3). Via the Desktop Software.
- This kit does not include install wire. Use UTP cable for LAN Connection and 18/4 for locking device and or exit button.
- This system can also integrate via software with our CCTV and Access control products.
- The monitor that is included can be connected to the system via wifi.
- This system does not include the LAN cable, it need to be connected to your router.
- In the shipment of this kit you will find a pamphlet indicating on how to download the desktop and Mobile app software.
- Name of the mobile app is VEZCOGO, the app can be found on App Store and Google Play.
- Terms: "Door station" is the camera and doorbell option that will go outside of the door. "Indoor station" is the Monitor that is used to be installed inside.
- Very Important: The reader that is built in the "Door station" will not sync with our access control system in the sense that you will not have any type of reporting or permissions. This reader is only standalone.
- You may only register 256 Users per Door station
- The Door station has a doorbell button that will ring in two areas if wanted. 1.) On the monitor, 2.) Via the app (the app does not have to be 100% open but it should be
open at least in the background).
- 2 way audio, 1 way Video
- Only Compatible with Microsoft
Windows 7 or higher. Not compatible with mac.
- In a situation where you are going to have multiple entries, there is a maximum of 2 door stations per indoor station.
- There is a limit of 7 indoor station per outdoor station. This limit is per device, and not calling button. This applies to 1, 2, 4 door station.
- Door Station must be programmed via VezPro or VSAxess Software.
- Access control cards must be configured via the software
- Hardrive is included in this kit but it does not come installed. In the shipment you will receive instructions on how to do this.
- This kit does not come with BNC Connectors.
- Does not come with wire.
- Comes with Individual Power supplies only for each individual camera.
- Power supply included for DVR or NVR.
- Only IP cameras that are in the kit include POE switch that is in the NVR.
- The cameras are Day and Night.
- The cameras come with wide angle lens of 2.8mm, gives you the ability to cover large areas while still having focus and quality image. The cameras come with a Smart IR technology, giving better IR coverage without ever having over/under exposed areas in the frame.
Screenshots Examples of the Desktop Software
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Specifications & Packaging
Model No. VS-AXESS-2ETL:
- 32-bit high-speed processor.
- TCP/IP network communication, with self-adaptive network interface. The communication data is encrypted to ensure information security.
- Supports Wiegand interface for accessing card reader. Wiegand interface supports W26/ W34 and is seamlessly compatible with third-party card reader.
- Massive storage with 10.000 users and 50.000 card swiping records.
- Supports first card function, super card and super password function, online upgrade function and online remote control of the doors.
- Supports various card types such as normal/disabled/blacklist/patrol/visitor/duress/ super card, etc.
- Supports tamper-proof alarm for card reader, unsecured door alarm, forced entry door alarm, alarm for door opening timeout, duress alarm, and alarm for invalid card swiping attempts alarm, case in alarm and restore, insufficient storage alarm for offline event, network break alarm.
- The recognition and storage of card number with maximum 20 digits.
- Supports online and offline operating mode.
- Supports time synchronization via NTP, manual or automatic method.
- Data can be permanently saved when the access controller is powered off.
- Client supports attendance function.
- High/low temperature resistant design -20°C to +65°C (-4°F~+149°F)
Model No. VIS-ML300LED:
- Voltage Input: 12 VDC / 24 VDC
- Current Draw: 12V / 300mA ; 24V / 150mA (±5%)
- Holding Force: Up to 300 lbs (136 kg)
- Anti-Rust Surface Treatment: Blue Zinc Plating
- Operating Temperature: 0~55° C ( 32~131° F)
- Operating Humidity: 0~95% ( non condensing)
- Weight ( Magnet): 0.6 kg (±1%)
- Dimensions:
Magnet – (L)170x(W)35x(T)21 mm
Armature – (L)130x(W)33x(T)11 mm
- Green/Red LED Indication for EM Lock Status
Model No. VIS-3100:
- Color: Black
- Operating Voltage: 9~24V DC
- Frequency: 125KHz
- Card Type: EM card
- Reading Distance: 7 cm (2.75 in.)
- Output Format: Wiegand 26 bits (26~37 bits available upon request)
- Operating Temperature: -40°C ~ 60°C (-40°F ~ 140°F)
- Standby Current: < 25mA
- Operating Humidity: 10%~95% RH
- Index of Protection: IP66
- Dimensions: 102L x 48W x 20H (mm) – 4.01L x 1.88W x 0.78H (in.)
Model No. VIS-7005:
- Innovative LED Design
- 2.5mm or 0.1 Inches ultra-thin, an ideal choice for door access control for office building, households, etc.
- Long Mechanical Life, exceed 1 million times
- Simple installation
Model No. VZ-IP-INT1DS:
- 24hr clock.
- Ability to name indoor stations.
- Ability to open microphone and camera of outdoor station via indoor station or phone app.
- Ability to reactive caller ID of indoor station previously added to contact.
- CMOS Low Illumination 1.3 MP HD Colorful Camera
- Video Compression Standard: H.264
- Resolution: 1280 × 720
- Video Frame Rate: 25 fpsBuilt-in IC Card Reader
- Exit Button for Opening the Door
- Door Magnetic Detection: Detects Door Magnetic Status
- Ethernet: 10/100 Mbps Self-Adaptive Ethernet
- Network Protocol: TCP/IP, SIP, RTSP
- Alarm Input: Door Magnetic Alarm, Tampering Alarm
- Network Interface: 1 RJ-45 10/100 Mbps Self-Adaptive Ethernet Interface
- 1 RS-485 Half-Duplex Port
- I/O Input: 4I/O Output: 1
- Power Supply: 12 VDC/24 VDC
- Power Consumption: ≤12 W
- Working Temperature: -40° C to +70° C (-40° F to 158° F)
- Working Humidity: 10% to 90%
- IP Protection Level: IP65
- Dimensions (L × W × H): 164 mm × 97 mm × 54.4 mm (6.46in. × 3.82in. × 2.14in.)
Model No. VZ-IP-BUTIDS-WI:
- Display Screen: 7-Inch Colorful TFT LCD
- Display Resolution: 800 × 480
- Operation Method: Capacitive Touch Screen, Physical Button
- Operation Interface: Flattened UI Operation Interface
- Audio Input: Built-in Omnidirectional Microphone
- Audio Output: Built-in Loudspeaker
- Audio Compression Standard: G.711 U
- Audio Compression Rate: 64 Kbps
- Audio Quality: Noise Suppression and Echo Cancellation
- Ethernet: 10/100 Mbps Self-Adaptive Ethernet
- Network Protocol: TCP/IP, SIP, RTSP
- Alarm Input: 2-ch Alarm Input Sensor
- Network Interface: 1 RJ-45 10/100 Mbps Self-Adaptive Ethernet Interface
- 1 RS-485 Half-Duplex Port
- I/O output: 1
- Memory: 256 M
- Power Supply: 12 VDC
- Power Consumption: ≤10 W
- Working Temperature: -10° C to + 55° C (14° F to 131° F)
- Working Humidity: 10% to 90%
- Dimensions (L × W × H): 217 mm × 142 mm × 26 mm (8.5″ × 5.6″ × 1.0″)
- Image Sensor: 1/3″ Progressive Scan CMOS
- Min. Illumination: Color: 0.01 Lux @(F1.2, AGC ON), 0 Lux with IR
- Shutter Speed: 1/3 s to 1/100, 000 s, support slow shutter
- Lens: 2.8 mm @F2.0, horizontal field of view 105.8°
- Lens Mount: M12
- Day & Night: IR cut filter with auto switch
- 3-Axis Adjustment: Pan: 0° to 360°, tilt: -90° to 90°, rotation: 0° to 360°
- Digital Noise Reduction: 3D DNR
- Wide Dynamic Range: Digital WDR
- Video Compression: Main stream: H.264+/H.264 / Sub stream: H.264/ MJPEG
- H.264 Type: Main profile/High profile
- Video Bit Rate: 32 Kbps – 16 Mbps
- Network Storage: NAS (NFS, SMB/CIFS)
- Detection: Motion detection
- Operating Conditions: -30 °C – 60 °C (-22 °F – 140 °F), Humidity 95% or less (non-condensing)
- Power Consumption: Max. 5 W/6.5 W (PoE)
- Power Supply: DC12V ± 25%, PoE (802.3af)
- Protection Level: IP67
- IR Range: Up to 30 m
- Dimensions: 69.1 mm × 66 mm × 172.7 mm ( 2.7″ × 2.6″ × 6.8″)
- Weight: 500 g (1.1 lbs.)
Model No. VZ-NVR-81080-P:
- IP video input: 8-ch
- Incoming Bandwidth: 80 Mbps
- Outgoing Bandwidth: 160 Mbps
- Decoding Format: H.265/H.264/H.264+/MPEG4
- Recording Resolution:
- 8MP/6MP/5MP/4MP/3MP/1080p/UXGA/720p/VGA/4CIF/DCIF/2 CIF/CIF/QCIF
- Synchronous Playback: 8-ch
- Capability: 2-ch @ 4K, or 8-ch @ 1080p
- Network Protocols: TCP/IP, DHCP, HIK Cloud P2P, DNS, DDNS, NTP, SADP,
- SMTP, NFS, iSCSI, UPnP™, HTTPS
- SATA: 2 SATA interfaces for 2HDDs
- Capacity: Up to 6TB capacity for each disk
- Two-way Audio: 1-ch, RCA (2.0 Vp-p, 1kΩ)
- Network Interface: 1 RJ-45 10/100/1000 Mbps self-adaptive Ethernet interface
- USB Interface: Front panel: 1 × USB 2.0; Rear panel: 1 × USB 3.0
- Alarm In/Out: 4/1
- Power supply: 100 to 240 VAC
- Power: ≤180 W
- Consumption (without hard disk): ≤15 W
- Working Temperature: -10 ºC to +55 ºC (14 ºF to 131 ºF)
- Working Humidity: 10% to 90%
- Chassis: 385 mm chassis
- Dimensions (W × D × H): 385 × 315× 52 mm (15.2″ × 12.4″ × 2.0″)
- Weight (without HDD): ≤3 kg (6.6 lbs)
Model INT-WD20PURZ
- Formatted Capacity: 2TB
- Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
- Form factor: 3.5-inch
- RoHS Compliant: Yes
- Cameras: Up to 64
- Maximum Drive Bays Supported: 8
- Cache (MB): 64
- Performance Class: 5400 RPM Class
- Temperature (°C, on the base casting): 0 to 65
- Height (in./mm, max): 1.028/26.1
- Length (in./mm, max): 5.787/147Width (in./mm, max): 4/101.6
- Weight (lb/kg, ±10%): 1.40/0.64
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Develop Ineo 554 MFD
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The Develop Ineo+ range of mfps boast some the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) in the industry due to competitive purchase and lease options, high yield toner cartridges, drum units and developer units all of which are competitively priced against the Canon imageRUNNER Advance, Ricoh Aficio, Toshiba eStudio, Xerox WorkCentre and Sharp MX multifunctional colour photocopiers.
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Toner Inclusive Service Level Agreements
For complete peace of mind many of our clients opt for our fully comprehensive onsite maintenance agreements which include all toner supplies, spare parts and consumables, engineer call outs, labour time and IT support.
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Our toner exclusive agreements offer all of the same benefits as our inclusive agreements with clients able to purchase the toner from directly from us at competitive prices and is particularly suited to businesses who only produce a very small amount of colour on their documents.
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WDS work with many clients who choose not to take a support agreement, we offer a fixed cost repair service and provide consumables at discounted prices to ensure the running costs for Develop copiers are kept to a minimum.
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Secure & Flexible with Follow me Printing
Follow-me printing of the Enterprise My Print Manager takes user convenience and security aspects to a new level. Not only does it enable confidential printing anywhere; it also facilitates print fleet optimisation and, by avoiding wasted output that is never collected, helps reduce print volumes and enhances cost efficiency.
The My Print Manager provides a comprehensive follow-me printing functionality that is available in Windows Print Server and Point & Print environments. The My Print Manager can also be used as a stand-alone application, offering secure printing without driver authentication, and supports ID & Print as well as Select Jobs.
- Follow-me printing both without print server or with print server and Active Directory (requires Authentication Manager for communication)
- Convenient sorting, filtering and deletion of print jobs via print job list with user (own jobs) and administrator (all jobs) view
- Print job quota settings for single users or groups, by number of jobs or calculated total size
- Auto deletion of abandoned jobs after specified time period
- Customisable panel design
- Up to 200 devices per server
- "ID & Print" function
Enterprise Device Manager
Monitor your system requirements from one central location.
Device Manager, a web-based server software, is capable of monitoring nearly all output systems installed on your network. Instant email notification of low paper levels, jams and other system incidents are sent directly to the IT-Administrator or key operator and leads to reduced response time. In addition, Device Manager automatically transmits the status of toner shortage per email and allows remote access to counter data.
The IT administrator is assisted with a once define, repeat install function, avoiding repetitive installation tasks on several systems within the network. When changes occur in the network, the printers and copiers can be easily adapted.
Workgroups, departments and divisions can be re-grouped with access to pre-defined devices. Nevertheless, if the user requires access to a specific ineo device, Device Manager leads the user via a direct link to Web Connection, the user interface to the digital systems on the network.
Apart from a clear arrangement and time-saving "Device-Search" function it is also possible to remotely reboot the devices after changing network settings or to fix an error. This allows IT-Administrators to save immense time, especially in network environments with long distances between the systems and the operator or separate buildings.
If you are considering first-time entry into centralised print management on your company network, then Device Manager is without doubt the best entry-level choice
Mobile Printing
Mobile workers benefit from a new freedom and attractively enhanced flexibility, enjoying instant access to printing wherever they happen to be. Follow-me printing "inside the cloud" does not re quire users to determine a certain output device in advance – they can make this choice as they go along.
Using the authentication functionality, Everyone Print can be flexibly configured for employees and external users. Guests enjoy the benefits of driver-less printing and can easily generate their own printouts by sending an email to a preconfigured address or up loading their documents via a web browser. No software installation on the user's mobile device is required.
Key features
- Convenient driverless mobile printing
- Flexible print job submission via email, landing page or EOP printer driver
- Easy modification of basic job settings during print job release
- Office file format support for mobile printing – Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF, websites, TXT, etc.
- EOP printer driver support for unlimited applications (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
- Access limitation, e.g. to known users in the corporate network by authentication
- Print job release via PIN ID for anonymous users
- Straightforward integration of EveryonePrint with existing print accounting systems
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- Easy establishing of private cloud print solution in corporate environments
- Enhanced security avoids unattended printouts in the printer output tray
- Saves printing costs because sent but forgotten print jobs will not be printed
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- IT-friendly use of standard applications (web browser, email client) to print for all platforms
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Zebras with Spots?
As she prepares to feed the zebras on the 3-acre African Journey savannah, zoo keeper Lisa Gehlhausen gathers her equipment. Wheelbarrow: check. Zebra treats: check. Stick to fend off ostrich: check. Treats for ostrich: check. Wait a minute – are we feeding the ostrich or the zebras?
"You really can't feed one without the other," she says. "The ostrich follow us everywhere."
Indeed, Kimmy and Penny, the zoo's two female ostriches, are ever-present as Gehlhausen tosses chunks of carrot and sweet potato to the zebras. "We use these treats to encourage the zebras to go into the barn at night," she explains. "That helps reduce wear and tear on the pasture." The zebras also eat hay and grain, and nibble on real grass on the pasture.
A bucket of cracked corn distracts the ostriches while Gehlhausen explains how she tells the zoo's three female zebras apart. "Each zebra has different markings," she says. "The trick is to look at the things that aren't stripes." Telodi, for example, has one white spot on the left side of her lower neck, while Jasiri has two white spots in the center of her neck, as if she is wearing a necklace. Okolo has a black spot on her left shoulder.
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As headwinds in its Nook division continued to weigh on earnings, the bookstore chain now plans to reduce overhead costs by backing away from making tablets in-house. It will instead focus on e-readers and reading platforms, given intense competition in the tablet market from Amazon.com (NASDAQ:AMZN) and Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL).
Shares tumbled 12.6% to $16.45 in early morning trading. As of Monday's close, the stock was up about 25% on the year.
In the wake of a surprise third-quarter loss reported in February, Chief Executive William Lynch said the company needs to make changes.
The Nook division has particularly struggled. The unit recorded a 34% decline in sales to $108 million on less demand for its devices. Digital content sales slipped 8.9%. Its adjusted loss swelled to $177 million, up from $77 million.
On Tuesday, Barnes & Noble said it aims to reduce losses in the Nook segment by limiting manufacturing risks. It plans to continue efforts to design e-reading devices and reading platforms but will look to form a partnership with a third-party manufacturer to make color tablets.
"Thus, the widely popular lines of Simple Touch and Glowlight products will continue to be developed in house, and the company's tablet line will be co-branded with yet to be announced third party manufacturers of consumer electronics products," the company said.
Lynch said in a statement that Barnes & Noble is "taking big steps to reduce the losses in the NOOK segment, as we move to a partner-centric model in tablets and reduce overhead costs."
"We plan to continue to innovate in the single purpose black-and-white eReader category, and the underpinning of our strategy remains the same today as it has since we first entered the digital market, which is to offer customers any digital book, magazine or newspaper, on any device," Lynch added.
The company's chairman and largest shareholder, Leonard Riggio, announced earlier this year that he is interested in buying out the chain of consumer bookstores, reigniting the expectation that Barnes & Noble will be split in two. Barnes & Noble has long explored the possibility of spinning off its Nook business.
Overall, Barnes & Noble's loss grew to $118.6 million, or $2.11 a share, compared with a year-earlier loss of $56.9 million, or $1.06 a share. Analysts were looking for a loss of 99 cents.
Revenue fell 7.4% to $1.28 billion, missing estimates of $1.33 billion. Gross margin slid to 17.9% from 29%.
The retail business posted a 10% sales decline to $948 million, and same-store sales dropped 8.8%. The fourth quarter faced a tough year-ago comparison, since the prior year had a stronger title lineup including "The Hunger Games."
Sales did rise 11% to $252 million at the college business.
For the current fiscal year, Barnes & Noble anticipates same-store sales to post a percentage decline in the high single digits. College same-store sales are expected to fall in the low single digits.


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Wage and Hour Division (WHD)
October 13, 2005
Dear Name* ,
This is in response to your letter inquiring whether substitute teachers for kindergarten through twelfth grade for "the District," a public school district, qualify as exempt teachers under the professional exemption contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) section 13(a)(1) and regulations, 29 C.F.R. Part 541 (copy enclosed). You also ask whether any distinction is made between non-certified substitute teachers with a bachelor's degree and those without a degree in the application of this exemption. It is our opinion that either class of substitute teacher may qualify for exemption if the duties test is met.
The District employs numerous substitute teachers, some of whom hold teaching certificates, while some do not. Additionally, some substitute teachers have a bachelor's degree, while others do not. District policy requires that substitute teachers who do not hold a teaching certificate must have at least 60 hours of college-level credits. The duties of the substitute teacher include instructing students regarding a variety of classroom topics and courses of instruction, supervising students during the school day, making attendance reports, attending faculty meetings, grading work given to students during the day and preparing lesson plans for the following day, and special assignments given by the regular teacher or the principal.
Please note that the Department of Labor issued revisions to the Part 541 regulations that exempt certain executive, administrative, and professional employees that were published as a final rule in the Federal Register on April 23, 2004 (69 Fed. Reg. 22122). The revised Part 541 regulations went into effect on August 23, 2004.
Substitute teachers must be evaluated on an individual basis to determine whether they qualify for the teacher exemption contained in the Regulations at 29 C.F.R. § 541.303. This regulation exempts "any employee with a primary duty of teaching, tutoring, instructing or lecturing in the activity of imparting knowledge and who is employed and engaged in this activity as a teacher in an educational establishment by which the employee is employed." 29 C.F.R. § 541.303(a). Having a primary duty of teaching "includes, by its very nature, exercising discretion and judgment." Wage and Hour Division Fact Sheet #17D (copy enclosed). The duties of the substitute teachers qualify them for the exemption if their primary duty is teaching and imparting knowledge in an educational establishment. Substitute teachers whose primary duties are not related to teaching students—for example, performing general clerical or administrative tasks for the school unrelated to teaching their assigned students, or manual labor—do not qualify for the teaching professional exemption.
Section 541.303(c) specifies that possessing a teaching certificate is one clear method of identifying employees the regulations contemplate as qualifying for the exemption. Those substitute teachers whose primary duty is teaching and who possess a teaching certificate would therefore qualify for the teacher exemption. "However, private schools and public schools are not uniform in requiring a certificate for employment as an elementary or secondary school teacher, and a teacher's certificate is not generally necessary for employment in institutions of higher education or other educational establishments. Therefore, a teacher who is not certified may be considered for exemption, provided that such individual is employed as a teacher by the employing school or school system." 29 C.F.R. § 541.303(c). Thus, substitute teachers whose primary duty is teaching qualify for the exemption whether or not they hold a teaching certificate. Based upon your description of the substitute teachers' duties, we conclude that their primary duty is teaching.
Moreover, there is no minimum educational or academic degree requirement for bona fide teaching professionals in educational establishments. Thus, the application of this exemption is not dependent upon possessing a bachelor's degree. Those substitute teachers who are not certified, but who do work as teachers, are within the teaching professional exemption whether or not they possess an advanced academic degree.
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|2009-05-12, 14:27
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One Piece - Chapter 542 [Manga]
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|2009-05-12, 14:29
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There's a small summary out right now:
-Apparently our old friend Blackbeard has arrived at the prison, and is sucking up jailors in his black hole.
-Magellan seems to have regained control over level 2. Meanwhile, Shiryuu is busy rampaging through the prison, slashing his way through prisoners and jailors alike.
-A female jailor (probably Sadi or Domino) tries to stop Luffy's group, but ends up getting owned by the Luffy/Croc/Jinbei trio.
Hmm.... so if it's true that Blackbeard is at the prison, then what purpose would he have there? Perhaps he's decided to make those big, bad level 6 pirates part of his crew? While I do believe that would be a really awesome twist, I just gotta wonder how the government would let that fly. Still, I can't really think of any other reason for him to make a surprise visit to ID, especially since Ace just left the place.....
Heh, I figured that Shiryuu would be rampaging through the prison once he was freed. I'm pretty sure that we'll see a glimpse of whatever power he possesses at this point, though the summary hasn't mentioned it. And of course, Luffy's team once again shows their overwhelming might. Sure, they'll eventually be impeded by Magellan and Shiryuu (and Blackbeard, if this summary is 100% accurate), but I still think it's fun to see those 3 tearing through the prison right now. I hope that Iva and Inazuma will get their fair share of boss battles, as well.....
|2009-05-12, 14:36
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if blackbeard is in there it means hes got a reason,every scene with him so far has been pretty cool and he is a really cool charcter,espcially cos him and luffy have the same goal of becoming the pirate king.
i think if blackbeard is there its probably cos he either wants to join some new nakama from level 6 like u said,or that he heard about what is luffy doing there and wanted to come and see what is he doing...
|2009-05-12, 14:44
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|2009-05-12, 14:53
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I'm also pretty stoked about Blackbeard's return (the spoiler summary seems to have been confirmed to be legit, by the way). He's one of my top fave villains in the series, after all. In fact, I realized something..... Teach might be the one to comment about Luffy's Haki again. He previously mentioned Luffy's "ambition" (Haki) during the Jaya storyline, so if he catches Luffy duking it out with Magellan, he might also say that he possesses the "quality of a king"......
And I wonder.... if Magellan stopped the level 2 riot, does that also mean he caught Buggy and Mr. 3, as well. Heh, if that's the case, then those guys never get a break! Well, they'd be able to escape anyway when Luffy arrived to deal with Magellan, but still......
I doubt it. There's already a bunch of marine battleships patrolling the outside of the prison anyway, so why would the government need to send extra protection? I'm pretty sure Teach went to the prison on his own volition, and for reasons only known to himself. Whether or not it has anything to do with Luffy is anyone's guess, but I still don't really see any point in him holding off Luffy at this point......
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|2009-05-12, 15:38
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If the spoiler right now is true, I got some new info about it.
the female jailor is Sadi and her Monster guards are no match for Croc, Jinbei , Luffy
I dont know if its true or not but it seems way to chaotic in terms of... Mangake's capacity.
Many Mangake(Araki for instance) told audience the reason Magan always end up 1 on 1 or 2on 2 and war become like small skirmish was the limit of Mangake to draw it properly in paper.. I dont know if Oda can pull this one right..
|2009-05-12, 17:04
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So I guess Blackbeard is going to leave Newgate to WG, letting them to focus all their power on the whitebeard pirates, while he initiates his own plans. Since the WG may not be able to deal with all of them at the same time, they may have to let go of Blackbeard and ignore his actions for now, though with no real knowledge on what his intentions are, this will be a risky thing to do.
|2009-05-12, 18:04
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|2009-05-12, 19:11
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Location: west coast is where i live and it can't be beat no matter what.
Haha thats totally amazing that blackbeards there now cause he is totally amazing. perhaps hes there to finish what he started with luffy and get more people to fight for him. maybe he will free san jaun wolf and use him as his ship?
|2009-05-12, 19:44
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I hope that part on Blackbeard at Impel Down is fake. Otherwise I'll be locked in surprising shock.
(surprising shock)<"WHAT'S BLACKBEARD DOING AT IMPEL DOWN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
< "This is a twisted turn of events." "woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo!"
|2009-05-12, 19:46
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According to the Script in Arlong park
BB doesnt come to Impel Down
he just talks with the Marin soilders around him while Kuma is reading Moria is sleeping and
Mihawk doing nothing
and Back to Impel down Magellan agrees letting shiryuu out
Croc uses his ability to open Level 3
A big Gaol net or bullet caugths half of the Escapee army or more (excluding important charcs of course)
and fight continues.. and suddenly Mr.2 is stabbed by Shryuu
and back to the ship Ace is held
WB appears attacking Marines to rescue ACe
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Liveright to live again (and Faulkner comes first)
Intriguing press release from W.W. Norton: In 2012, the publishing house plans to revive the venerable Liveright name as an upscale imprint. To celebrate, Norton is sort of previewing the Liveright name by using it to reissue William Faulkner's first two novels, "Soldiers' Pay" and "Mosquitoes" in new, handsome paperback editions ($14.85 each). For folks who love to prowl the racks of used bookstores, seeing the name Liveright come back is like a blast from the past. From 1916 until… Read More »


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The site IcelandGourmetGuide.com made it to the "Best New Websites" section of Web Users, did not get a full house but three out of four stars, not all bad. Little Web 2.0 options such as interaction with each restaurant, external rating options but beside that, three stars. For me the site looks little one dimensional and as stated in the review "Sadly, the restaurant guide to Reykjavik is disappointingly thin and there's nowhere for interested visitors to interact". I am how sure that the site owners will fix this.
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The conviction of a Leavenworth man who was found guilty of raping a 75-year-old woman has been upheld by the Kansas Court of Appeals.
The conviction of a Leavenworth man who was found guilty of raping a 75-year-old woman has been upheld by the Kansas Court of Appeals.
The decision in the appeal of Andre R. Connally was announced Friday. The Court of Appeals affirmed the verdict, according to Assistant County Attorney Michael Jones, who prosecuted the case.
Connally, 22, was convicted in May 2011 of rape and aggravated criminal sodomy. The crimes were committed in Nov. 19, 2010. The victim was attacked in her Leavenworth apartment. She was hit in the head with a frying pan and raped.
The jury acquitted Connally of an aggravated burglary charge.
Connally was sentenced to more than 22 years in prison.
He's currently in custody at the Hutchinson Correctional Facility. His earliest possible release date is May 11, 2030, according to a website for the Kansas Department of Corrections.
While Jones knew the conviction had been affirmed, he had not yet seen the written Court of Appeals decision Friday.
He said the issues argued in Connally's appeal concerned whether there was sufficient evidence to sustain the convictions, whether the judge had coerced jurors into reaching a verdict by telling them to continue deliberations after they indicated they couldn't reach a verdict on all the counts and whether the judge should have given an instruction to jurors for considering an attempted aggravated criminal sodomy charge.


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When Evan Malach, 26, found himself lost in the wilderness without food or shelter, in desperation he recalled survival tips offered by host Les Stroud on the reality TV show Survivorman.
Malach was able to start a fire, find a trail and make his way to the nearest village before hypothermia set in, using what he had learned watching the legendary outdoorsman's show.
"I was a pretty hard-core snowboarder at the time, and I had gone off on my own in the out-of-bounds area of Whistler's Blackcomb Mountain," Malach recalls. "But I quickly realized I was lost and didn't have an exit plan."
After hours of fruitless wandering, Malach found himself completely unprepared to brave the wild for the night. "I tried to get rescued by waving at gondola riders, but I wasn't able to get spotted. I was freezing and I was scared, but then I thought of Les Stroud – if he could do it, I could too."
Malach made a fire that night and built a makeshift bed out of pine needles. Just before his phone battery died – before it occurred to him that he might need to call for help – he received a text message that would change his life.
"My friend wrote to me out of the blue, saying, 'What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us. What we have done for others and the world lives on and is eternal.' I knew I wanted to spread that message."
Twenty-eight hours later, he was able to get back on track by following footprints to a nearby village. And today, having safely returned from his Whistler snowboarding misadventure, Malach, a Thornhill native, is working in Toronto to give survivors of all types of journeys a chance to travel the world.
"After surviving the cold, I realized how important it is to open our eyes to the majestic beauty this world has to offer," he says. "I've been so lucky to have the opportunity to travel. Travel is a significant rite of passage, but so many people don't get that chance."
Inspired by his ordeal, Malach, who is no stranger to the concept of tikkun olam (he was featured in Heebonics in 2009 for organizing a fundraising rock concert for the victims of the Darfur genocide), beat out hundreds of other applicants in the American Express Canada's Room for Thought program.
The program called for submissions from people who wanted to turn a big idea under the categories of community, music or travel into reality.
One winner from each category would be given the opportunity to work with mentors Free the Children co-founders Craig and Marc Kielburger, Metric lead singer and songwriter Emily Haines and Stroud.
Malach's idea to create a program that offers underprivileged youths who've overcome major obstacles a chance to go on an adventure abroad was selected as the winner for the travel category, giving him the opportunity to work with Stroud.
The two are currently developing the Second Chance Travel Co-op program. One aspect of the initiative will send volunteers – who have survived hardships themselves – to work with those struggling with their own quests for survival.
"We want to bring survivors in as ambassadors to help with water-filtration projects in Africa, build schools in Equador, that sort of thing. I want people who've gone through any sort of hardship – cancer, addiction, abuse, you name it – to have a chance to propel themselves forward in positive ways and help others with their own survival journeys," he explains.
Malach says that travelling teaches people about the many things that unite them, rather than what sets them apart.
"So I want to provide a chance for worthy survivors to use the lessons they've learned, their sense of gratitude to be able to make the world a better place."
Aside from Stroud, Malach says his family was a major source of inspiration for his charity work. His dad, who died last year, volunteered for many years, and his grandparents were Holocaust survivors.
"They endured so much and are a constant source of inspiration," he says.
Last summer, Malach decided to volunteer at a camp for children with cancer, an experience he found particularly rewarding.
"Working with young people who have had to stare mortality in the eye makes every waking breath and moment all the more inspiring," he says.
"They're so positive and grateful, open to learning, and excited for every day even though they've had almost everything taken away from them."
Malach's survival experience also led him to write a spiritual memoir, Now Boarding, which will be released next year on his late father's birthday.
Lisa Shanker, also a member of Thornhill's Jewish community, was chosen as the winner for the contest's community category for her idea to create a "survivor garden" for people recovering from cancer and other serious illnesses.
"I had a stem cell transplant 2-1/2 years ago," she says. "When I was in the hospital, all I could do was look out the window. I couldn't wait to go outside and be in nature, but I had no gardening skills at all."
With the help of her mentors, the Kielburgers, she set up an outdoor space for survivors to interact through gardening.
"We are trying to give people recovering from serious illnesses a space to learn gardening skills in an environment that is peaceful and social, so people aren't isolated and alone."
Shanker says she isn't looking to change the world, just to give back some control and companionship to people who have been sick.
"Healing is a lot more than coming out of a doctor's office, it's emotional, too," she adds.
Shanker's project was displayed earlier this month at the Four Seasons Centre for the Performing Arts in Toronto, and Malach's project will be featured from Nov. 20 to 22.
For more information about the Room for Thought program, visit www.blogto.com/events/47409.


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Papaya/Pawpaw apaya (Carica papaya) originates from tropical American countries. Today Papaya is cultivated in most tropical countries around the world. The Papaya with the Latin name carica papaya is called Paw Paw in Australia and New Zealand. This is in no way related to the Paw Paw in North America that has the Latin name asimina tribola, though both are medicinal plants.
Papaya leaf juice is claimed to have reversed cancer in many people living on the Gold Coast in Australia. Harold W. Tietze in his book Papaya The Medicine Tree, describes how to make the juice and tells the stories of many cancer survivors who reportedly used the juice to get rid of their cancer.
The book contains the the following report that was published in the Gold Coast Bulletin. "PawPaw Cancer Plea Bears Fruit". Gold coast gardeners have responded to an appeal by cancer victims desperate to find supplies of pawpaw leaves. And the Gold Coast man who, 14 years ago, first exposed the leaves as a possible cure for cancer has been tracked down to a Labrador (Gold Coast) nursing home. The story of how Stan Sheldon cured himself of cancer by drinking the boiled extract of pawpaw leaves was first told in the Gold Coast Bulletin in 1978.
Now research in the United States has given scientific support to his claim, isolating a chemical compound in the pawpaw tree which is reported to be a million times stronger than the strongest anti-cancer drug.
Mr Sheldon, says the discovery does not surprise him. "I was dying from cancer in both lungs when it was suggested to me as an old Aboriginal remedy" he said. "I tried it for two months and then I was required to have a chest x-ray during those compulsory TB checks they used to have. They told me both lungs were clear." "I told my specialists and they didn't believe me until they had carried out their own tests." "Then they scratched their heads and recommended I carry on drinking the extract I boiled out of the papaw leaves."
That was in 1962. The cancer never recurred. Since then Mrs Sheldon has passed the recipe onto other cancer victims. "Sixteen of them were cured," he said. Mr Sheldon's involves boiling and simmering fresh pawpaw leaves and stems in a pan for two hours before draining and bottling the extract. He said the mixture could be kept in a refrigerator though it may ferment after three or four days."
"One man has been growing papaws and giving away the leaves to cancer victims ever since he read the Bulletin's original 1978 story about Mr Sheldon. "I have no doubt that it works," he said. "I know people walking around now who should have been dead according to their original cancer diagnosis. But the pawpaw treatment helped them to beat the cancer."
The recipe is as follows:
Wash and partly dry several medium-size papaya leaves. Cut them up like cabbage and place them in a saucepan with 2 quarts / litres of water. Bring the water and leaves to the boil and simmer without a lid until the water is reduced by half. Strain the liquid and bottle in glass containers. The concentrate will keep in the refrigerator for three to four days. If it becomes cloudy, it should be discarded.
The recommended dosage in the original recipe is 3 Tablespoons/ 50ml three times a day. It is recommended to read Papaya The Medicine Tree for the interesting stories of "incurable" people who have used this extract to beat their cancer, and for other medicinal uses of papaya.
A letter from R.J.W.:
"... I was inspired to send some leaves to a few people dying from cancer. The first, a banana grower aged 40, had two operations on his bladder for cancer which did not prevent metastasis. I placed him on a very simple diet consisting of zero junk food,fresh living food with no preservatives, white flour, sugar, colourings or additives and told him to "stuff a handful of pawpaw leaves into a saucepan and fill with water. Boil, simmer for one hour and drink it till it comes out of your ears." He did so and five weeks had no trace of cancer whatsoever."
The leaves have also been reported successful used when dried and ground. The astonishing effects of the pawpaw have also been proved in tests on mice. The results were very impressive; tumors found in humans were being injected in mice and during treatment with papaw were disappearing.
Pawpaw twigs contain acetogenins - active compounds that modulate the production of ATP in mitochondria of specific cells - which affects the viability of specific cells and the growth of blood vessels that nourish them.
A recent clinical study with over 100 participants showed that the pawpaw extract, containing a mixture of acetogenins, supports the body's normal cells during times of cellular stress. Since 1976 Dr. McLaughlin, professor at Purdue University, at the request of National Cancer Institute, lead a team of two other professors in studying the effectiveness of herbs on tumors.
Pawpaw proved to be the most effective out of about 3,500 plants. Dr. McLaughlin found around 50 biologically active ingredients in this plant. Acetogenins are the medically effective ingredients of this herb.
Acetogenins found in pawpaw have been shown to have dramatic biological activity, being active against worms, some viruses, fungi, and many cancer cell lines. When compared with conventional chemotherapy agents, they have worked comparably in cell culture and animal studies, but at far lower concentrations and with almost no toxicity to host animals.
Dr. McLaughlin says that pawpaw is also effective in the fight against tumors, actually against any type of abnormalities which involve faster than normal cell growth. Pawpaw can be used as a support during Chemotherapy and radiation. Tests revealed that pawpaw makes these therapies more effective, and reduces their side effects.
"Pawpaw is very effective on its own. It typically doesn't need any supporting supplements. There are however, products that may be used in increasing the pawpaw's effectiveness. The products are Noni, Immune Stimulator, Colostrums, and Protease Plus (especially when fighting a digestive tract or intestinal tumor). However, pawpaw should not be used with any kind of thyroid stimulators (e.g.: KC-X) or with CoQ10 (coenzyme Q10).
For cancer patients taking Laetrile, it is important to consume paw paw and pineapple each day, as the natural enzyme strips the coating on the cancer cells, so that the B17 in the kernels can work."
Dengue Fever Remedy
I would like to share this interesting discovery from a classmate's son who has just recovered from dengue fever.
Apparently, his son was in the critical stage at the ICU when his blood platelet count drops to 15 after 15 liters of blood transfusion.
His father was so worried that he seeks another friend's recommendation and his son was saved. He confessed to me that he gave his son raw juice of the papaya leaves. From a platelet count of 45 after 20 liters of blood transfusion, and after drinking the raw papaya leaf juice, his platelet count jumps instantly to 135. Even the doctors and nurses were surprised. After the second day he was discharged. So he asked me to pass this good news around.
Accordingly it is raw papaya leaves, 2 pieces just cleaned and pound and squeeze with filter cloth. You will only get one tablespoon per leaf. So two tablespoon per serving once a day. Do not boil or cook or rinse with hot water, it will loose its strength. Only the leafy part and no stem or sap. It is very bitter and you have to swallow it like "Wong Low Kat". But it works.
*Papaya Juice - Cure for Dengue*
You may have heard this elsewhere but if not I am glad to inform you that papaya juice is a natural cure for dengue fever. As dengue fever is rampant now, I think it's good to share this with all.
A friend of mine had dengue last year. It was a very serious situation for her as her platelet count had dropped to 28,000 after 3 days in hospital and water has started to fill up her lung. She had difficulty in breathing. She was only 32-year old. Doctor says there's no cure for dengue. We just have to wait for her body immune system to build up resistance against dengue and fight its own battle. She already had 2 blood transfusion and all of us were praying very hard as her platelet continued to drop since the first day she was admitted.
Fortunately her mother-in-law heard that papaya juice would help to reduce the fever and got some papaya leaves, pounded them and squeeze the juice out for her. The next day, her platelet count started to increase, her fever subside. We continued to feed her with papaya juice and she recovered after 3 days!!!
Amazing but it's true. It's believed one's body would be overheated when one is down with dengue and that also caused the patient to have fever papaya juice has cooling effect. Thus, it helps to reduce the level of heat in one's body, thus the fever will go away. I found that it's also good when one is having sore throat or suffering from heat.
Please spread the news about this as lately there are many dengue cases. It's great if such natural cure could help to ease the sufferings of dengue patients. Furthermore, it's so easily available. Blend them and squeeze the juice! It's simple and miraculously effective!!
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