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Greencastle-Antrim High School celebrates 25 years of indoor music programs on Saturday, Feb. 16. Numerous alumni are expected for the celebration.
GREENCASTLE — Greencastle-Antrim High School celebrates 25 years of indoor music programs on Saturday, Feb. 16, with its annual Indoor Competition, showcasing color guard and percussion ensemble performances throughout the day in the school's gymnasium.
Numerous alumni are expected to attend the 25th anniversary competition next weekend, and will be welcomed with an alumni reception, special recognition during the competition and a group alumni photo.
Twenty-five years is a significant milestone for the school's music department and its longtime headmaster, Sam Forney, but what puts the achievement into proper perspective is this: None of the students currently participating in the indoor music programs at Greencastle-Antrim were alive when the program first started in 1988.
"Right now, I think somewhere close to 70 percent of our outdoor (music program) kids are involved with the indoor program," Forney said about the healthy surge in activity the indoor programs have seen over the past decade or so.
"I don't know if it's the competition or they like to keep busy — these are the busy kids to begin with. I don't know what it is, but they are enjoying indoor."
Small beginnings
Forney said that the color guard program, a musical style of performance that combines dance, flag and rifle spinning and visual interpretation of music on an arena indoors, began in 1988 and has run for 25 consecutive years since.
Saturday's 25th anniversary celebration marks the point from which the school first hosted its own indoor competition.
"We were trying to do it for a couple years in the mid-80s but were unsuccessful," Forney said. "We finally got a few of the girls to go out and watch some of the local competitions, see what guard was about. Then they decided 'hey, we wanna try that.'"
In the beginning, the program moved in small circles, competing in a few shows and performing at half-time of home basketball games.
Forney laughed, remembering how the basketball crowds merely "tolerated" the guard shows back then, but he emphasized it was a way to get performance opportunities for the students.
It didn't take long for the group to catch audience's attention though. In 1991, the group brought home its first championship trophy.
"In 1991, with the guard, that year was special because those kids finished last the year before," Forney said.
The high school guard ensemble now regularly competes in the third toughest category for competition in the Keystone Indoor Drill Association (KIDA), an organization which sponsors indoor activities in Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia and Delaware, and has brought home handfuls of first place and championship trophies for display in the high school's band room.
Percussion grows
The percussion ensembles have suffered fits and starts since the program's first run in 1991, but Forney has seen steady participation in indoor percussion groups since 2002, save for an off year in 2006. Indoor percussion ensembles perform melodic and rhythmic percussion pieces in indoor arenas.
The percussion program started in 1991 thanks to a G-AHS graduate, Tracy Weller, who worked with the school's field band percussion and wanted to start a moving indoor percussion ensemble. After getting the okay from Forney, Weller and the students began practicing on February 15 that year — and entered their first competition a mere four weeks later. The group completed enough competitions to qualify for a spot in the championship.
"The problem we had that year, there were no gyms to be found," Forney explained. "(Weller) was taking those kids out to the outside basketball court and practicing out there. They found some nice days and he would take 'em out there if we couldn't get a gym."
"But with moving percussion, if you can't get a gym, you've got problems," Forney said.
The program fell to the wayside until standstill percussion ensembles came into play in KIDA competitions. After a pair of seasons in 1998 and '99, the indoor standstill percussion ensemble began again in 2002 and has taken off since. The group took home its first championship trophy in 2004.
"What we've become now — we hardly have any percussionists doing percussion ensemble. Only three students doing indoor percussion did percussion before they got into high school. Out of 21," Forney said.
Lasting impact
Ryan Eberly, a 1994 G-AHS graduate and indoor guard and percussion alumnus who now works with the programs as the primary guard instructor, individually represents what the program has meant to 25 years worth of G-AHS indoor students.
Eberly and his wife, Brooke (Baer) Eberly, began dating in high school at an indoor guard competition. Brooke helps instruct the middle school guard ensemble.
Their oldest son Caleb, now a senior at G-AHS, has participated in indoor percussion all four years of his high school career. Their second oldest son, Cole, began participating in indoor percussion this year as a high school freshman. Even their youngest son Christian, 11, rides along every competition weekend to help move equipment for the groups.
As an alumnus himself, Eberly is looking forward to the celebration next weekend and the return of the programs' many, many alumni.
"I think it's going to be great. I think there's a lot to be said about the homecoming aspect," he said. Eberly spearheaded efforts to get program alumni to return using, mainly, a chain of Facebook messages.
"We want to make this an opportunity for them to see how they contributed to the whole piece," Eberly said. "There's hundreds of kids. When you look over 25 years and think about all the individual lives that have been touched, that's amazing."


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|Marie and Tiny, May 1993
As a five years old, it was strange when the other kids in my class were a little afraid of the teacher but she was just Marie to me, nothing to fear. As an eighth grader, remembering to say Miss Krueger instead of Tiny was a challenge.
Marie was born on 14 Sep 1915 in Mt. Vernon, Kentucky, the second child of August Krueger and Susie Taylor. Tiny was the youngest of their four children, born on 21 Feb 1922 in Mt. Vernon.
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2nd Photo: Tiny
|1st Photo: Marie with their brother, Bill, and their aunt, Anna Rose Taylor
2nd Photo: Tiny with Anna Rose and Bill
|Tiny and Marie with their cousin, Edna Hopkins (center)
On 23 Nov 1955, Marie married Henry Houston Cox, son of Edward Cox and Mattie McFerron, in Rockcastle County. Tiny never married. Neither of them had children.
|1st Photo: Marie with their aunt, Emma Taylor Hopkins; 2nd Photo: Tiny
Marie died on 10 November 1993 in Lexington, Kentucky. Tiny died on 27 Oct 1998 in Mt. Vernon. They were both buried in Elmwood Cemetery in Mt. Vernon.
Marie and Tiny were outstanding teachers. Over the course of their long careers, they had an enormous positive impact on Mt. Vernon students.


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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - In the first New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference (NEWMAC) Women's Volleyball Championship Tournament meeting between MIT and Babson College, the No. 3-seeded Engineers emerged with a 25-17, 25-15, 23-25, 25-17 victory over the No. 6 Beavers in a quarterfinal match on Tuesday. MIT (21-15) will travel to Springfield College on Friday, Nov. 8 to square off with No. 2 Wellesley College in semifinal action. Babson concluded its season with an overall record of 16-11.
With the score tied at two in the opening set, the Engineers mounted a 10-1 run, capped by a hit from Barden Cleeland that dropped in behind the Beavers' defense. Babson slowly chipped away at the deficit, coming within six (16-10), but MIT registered seven out of the next 10 points to establish a 23-13 advantage. The Beavers notched the next three points before a strike from Jenny Li resulted in set point. Caitlin O'Neill prolonged the frame by sneaking the ball through the Engineers' block. The Cardinal and Gray would not be denied set point as it converted its next opportunity.
MIT tallied nine unanswered points to start the second stanza and went on to build an 18-6 lead. Babson narrowed the margin to eight on three occasions, the last at 23-15. That was as close as it would get as hits from Katrina Ellison and Cecily Joujon-Roche closed out the set.
In the third set, the Engineers created a 5-2 edge. Miscues coupled with a block by O'Neill put the Beavers ahead, 6-5. After trading points, Babson converted a trio of errors to take a 12-8 lead. MIT battled back and evened the score at 14 on Lindsay Hunting's hit from the back row. Following another tie that featured kills from O'Neill and Allison Hamilos, an error and then a block by Meg Flaherty gave the Beavers the lead for good. The Engineers trailed by one point as late as 19-18, but Babson generated a 5-2 spurt which was capped by Alexa Untermann's ace, resulting in set point. Blocks featuring Cleeland with Ellison and Hamilos and then a kill by Cleeland narrowed the gap to 24-23. A service error ended MIT's run and forced an additional set.
The early stages of the fourth set were closely played as Babson converted a service error to take a 6-5 edge. The Engineers responded with an 11-1 run to regain the lead. The Beavers narrowed the gap to seven (22-15), but they could not generate a late rally to extend the match.
Cleeland collected a team-high six blocks to go along with seven kills for MIT. Li tallied eight kills and four blocks while Kelly Schulte posted eight kills and three blocks. Joujon-Roche amassed six kills, three blocks, and two aces while Ellison added nine digs and eight kills. Hamilos bolstered the Engineers' attack with four kills as Hunting totaled nine digs. Cathy Melnikow finished with 26 assists and eight digs.
O'Neill paced Babson with 11 kills while Flaherty contributed nine of her own. Shanna Glassner recorded a match-high 15 digs as Anna Belz dished out 27 assists.


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Back In The Saddle Again – Training Camp Notes
I skimmed through all the different beat writer reports from today's Cowboys Training Camp, and summarized all of the information for you.
Training Camp Player Valuations – In terms of talking about players after practice, Phillips doesn't like to do it. He feels he needs to see some practice tape before talking about how well a player did or how bad a player did. Phillips said it gives him a chance to give better answers to questions.
"You may see a player do something real good in practice and the rest of the plays didn't play well," Phillips said. "Like a guy in a game, you think he played well, and he didn't play well at all."
Ain't That A Kick In The Pants – The coach made a note that David Buehler isn't the only placekicker on the roster. Delbert Alvarado is also a kicker but hardly gets mentioned because after the team released Connor Hughes, it was assumed Buehler had no competition. Even Buehler said he's competing against himself.
"Alvarado did well, and that's why we kept him in the spring," Phillips said.
Safety First – Does Pat Watkins have a shot to become the starting free safety over Alan Ball? Phillips said he does and that there is competition at almost every position. However, Phillips would like to see Watkins, who is a strong special teams player, be more consistent on defense. Watkins did have a nice breakup of a long pass Saturday.
He Ain't All That – *Dez Bryant, the rookie wide receiver, was impressive in his first practice. Phillips said it's not the best debut he ever saw.
"I don't know if he looked any better than Steve Largent when he came in," Phillips said. "Cris Carter when he came in, I've seen some pretty good ones."
Not To Be Nosy, But – *Marcus Spears is still the starting defensive end, but he will get some snaps at nose tackle during training camp. The Cowboys did some of this last year with him. Phillips doesn't believe it's the start of something long term for Spears.
"I would be comfortable with him playing there," Phillips said of Spears at the nose. "He's a smart player and he's a good run player already, and normally nose guard is a run-player position. [Jay] Ratliff has taken it to a different level; you don't see nose guards getting six and eight and ten sacks. But I think Spears can fill that role as a run player and I think he'll do a good job there."
We Kneed You Man – *Linebacker Keith Brooking might miss the second practice Sunday. He's fine, but Cowboys want to bring him along slowly because he had minor knee surgery in the offseason. Brooking looked pretty good Saturday knocking down a pass and moving around pretty good.
MartyB TV Off The Air – Wade Phillips said he does not expect Martellus Bennett to miss much practice time in training camp with the sprained left ankle he suffered last week while working out. The Cowboys placed Bennett on the non-football injury list because he did not suffer the injury while under the Cowboys' care.


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Adam Levine: Pearl Jam's Newest Drummer?
Adam Levine takes a cruise in his Aston Martin with girlfriend Behati Prinsloo on Saturday (November 24) in Los Angeles.
The 33-year-old Maroon 5 frontman recently expressed interest in going on tour with one of his favorite bands. "If Pearl Jam needs a temp drummer while Matt Cameron tours with Soundgarden, I've been practicing to your records since I was 11. I'm READY," he tweeted.
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"1. I'm dead serious. 2. I'm DEAD serious," The Voice mentor added.
The week before, Maroon 5 performed their latest hit "One More Night" on Saturday Night Live.


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This season of Dancing With the Stars isn't going to be easy to win. The people who are left are all ridiculously good. At this point, there isn't a single person (with the exception of Kirstie Alley) who needs to go. And this is why Alley needs to leave next week.
It's not that I don't love her. I totally do. She is entertaining, hilarious, and yes, even good at dancing. But against Melissa Rycroft, Emmitt Smith, Gilles Marini, and Shawn Johnson, she is clearly (clearly!) the weak link with Apolo Ohno or Kelly Monaco being a distant second.
Under normal circumstances, Alley would be staying much longer, but this season is anything but normal. She has got to go. In many ways, it's not fair that Sabrina Bryan left ahead of her. She may be a better entertainer and have more fans, but come on. Isn't this show about dancing?
It's very unpopular to criticize Alley. For good reason. She is the oldest, the least experienced, and the most "amateur" of all the contestants. The rest are almost all sports stars or have gymnastics or dance training.
Alley said this week that she has a "place" in this competition. She is right. She does. But she also needs to know when to leave. Obviously it's the fans who decide all this, but it would be ridiculous for her to stay while one of the better dancers goes home.
If this were a popularity contest or based on who I liked best, I would think Alley should win it. But it's not. She is by far the worst dancer, and at some point, it's just unfair for her to stay.
I hate to say it, but someone has to! She had a great run. She's been a blast to watch. But enough is enough. There is no elimination this week because of the election, but next week she has got to go.
And she can take Apolo or Kelly with her.
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I have recently purchased a 2004 Mastercraft X Star with 5.7L Indmar MCX engine.
The previous owners have made quite a few changes to the boat and I am trying to restore it to it's original set up. The fuel system had been ripped apart so I am trying to get the original pump back in.
I have already purchased this Indmar fuel pump: http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=55-6014
Unfortuantely I can't fit the pump in because the wiring harness and fule line connectors have been changed. The plastic hanger that holds the pump has also gone. Really I need all the parts below the stainless steel plate, apart from the pump.
This is what the fuel system should look like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mastercraft-...item19cbdf1994
I have attached some pictures above of my current fuel system, and you will see it is a mess.
I have tried to contact, Skidim, Carter, Federal Mogual, Indmar and a few car accessorie shops and nobody seems to be able to help. Anyone got any idea where I can find all these parts?
Kind Regards
Jamie Sarsam
I believe you need this part - not the skidim.com part.
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Why so much rust?
Thanks mikeg205, that is the part I need, but I already have the pump, I just need the rest of the module bits that are inside the tank. The pump is the most expensive part so I was hoping I could get the other bits seperately, even from an old boat somewhere. If I can't find them, then I guess I will have to buy the module and keep the other pump as a spare, but it ain't cheap!
Snork, the rust must have come from condensation in the tank, the previous owners had it sitting outside for a few years before they sold it to me, I have cleaned it up now but it has been a mission. The vinyl was all cracked and moldy and the engine was rusty with parts corroded. I live in Thailand and there arn't many available and certainly not in my price range, so I bought it cheap and have been slowly fixing it up over the last 2 years, but pretty sure the pump is lacking power, it struggles with weight in it and I can't get over 30mph.
Do you know if I can get the connectors for the actual fuel pump from a car parts store? The connections are all metric over here so nothing fits, I could probably knock something up if I could get the fuel hose attached and the female 12v connector to the pump.
Thanks for the replies
I'm not an expert on the 04 as I have not owned an 04 but based on what you have it would appear you have an "in tank" fuel system like the current model boats. The pump you ordered from SKIDIM would appear to be the external pump that was mounted on the front of the engine block. I had this set up on my 95 Maristar. The general condition of that fuel assembly would tend to make me want to replace it completely but then again I get nervous with fuel systems in boats having experienced a fuel related fire while on a boat.
If you indeed have the in tank fuel system there's a great tread on this site called Fuel Pump 101
that I would highly recommend for anyone looking to work on this fuel system. A quick skim of the tread resulted in mention of systems from 05 and 06 but I didn't see any mention of an 04 in there. Depending on which system you actually have you may be able to source the correct parts from several sources. Skidim is good but you may be able to find a better deal from an Ebay source such as Great Lakes Skipper that buys up over stock items. Anyway you look at it, it would appear you have a bit more research to do if you want to put everything back to stock and like new condition.
These pump assemblies are exclusively manufactured by Federal Mogual for MasterCraft and Indmar have nothing to do with them (other than getting petrol from them). From memory so don't quote me I recall that they were first used around 2004 (seen them in the pickle Xstars from that era 05 model year??) and are still used today. This also means that you cannot buy components for them from anyone other than a MasterCraft dealer or obviously 2nd hand. The corrosion is caused by moisture in the fuel tank and the easiest way to reduce the chances of this happening this is to always fill the tank when you have finished using the boat.
Thanks for the replies guys. I think I want to do my own fuel system, I could replce the whole modlue with the original but from that fuelpump101 link bturner2 posted, it looks like the original system has problems anyway. So if I just get the right in tank fuel pump I should be able to connect is straight to the regulator and it would work ok.
Do you know the correct ratings I need for the pump, from what I have found I think it is 45 GPH at 95psi? Can anyone confirm that.
On another note, becuase I didn' trust the ****ty plastic filter and was worried about moisture in the tank that I might not have been able to get out, I put an inline Racor filter and water seperator. I have since read this might cause problems with getting air in a fuel injected system, I can't see how this would happen but your opinions would be appreciated.
Thaiwake - looking forward to your solution. That's the one thing I would like to learn more of. The pump you bought is a too stage pump which you can also buy at Napaonline...not available at most Napa shops and is about half the price. would love to know the setup and how you setup and manage the return fuel system...lots of pic please..
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Experts Garrett Lisi and Reichart Von Wolfsheild Will Decide
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New York, NY, December 2, 2011 - For centuries, America has been an engine of invention and innovation, creating the technology that has shaped world history. From Ben Franklin to the Wright Brothers; Thomas Edison to Steve Jobs, this country has been a consistent generator of revolutionary ideas. Today many Americans, in basements and backyards around the country, are trying to turn their dreams into the next big thing.
INVENTION USA, a new HISTORY series that premieres Friday, December 9, 10pm ET/9C follows Reichart Von Wolfshield and Dr. Garrett Lisi, innovators and scientists with ties to investors, as they go in search of the next breakthrough invention. Whether they're traveling the country to visit backyard inventors at home, or meeting inventors at their Los Angeles testing lab, Reichart and Garrett will put prototypes to the test and give a tough, no-nonsense evaluation of the invention's potential. If they like what they see, it can mean the Inventor will get the investment they'll need to help bring the product to market. In every case, the stakes are high: a dream is on the line, and the next idea they see could change someone's life...and even the world.
Their adventures are chronicled in INVENTION USA which celebrates not only America's knack for invention but also its entrepreneurial spirit. As Garrett and Reichart see it, one is meaningless without the other - and these two know quite a lot about bringing pioneering new products to the marketplace. As Garrett and Reichart travel the country meeting with inventors, if they agree that there's revenue potential in an invention, they will use their considerable collective experience - in consumer products, marketing, science and design - and make that invention come to life, and ultimately to the marketplace.
INVENTION USA doesn't focus solely on the inventions. The 6-episode series also takes a fascinating look at the inventors themselves, some of whom have sacrificed it all, including money and marriages, to make their creations a reality. Some inventions are brilliant, some batty; and some simply both! There's "The Fireball," a non-lethal weapon that uses modified paintballs to deter wild animal attacks, a product the inventor claims was inspired by his run-in with Bigfoot. There's the "Phone Glove," a cell phone that's not exactly hands free, given that it's built into a winter glove. Also Easy Down, a potential life-saving invention inspired by the events on 9/11; and "Roscoe: One Bad Bird" - a new "weapon" in the battle to keep pesky pigeons away. Which of these and many other items will meet with Garrett and Reichart's approval? The stakes couldn't be higher for the inventors.
Garrett is an American theoretical physicist best known for "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything," a unified field theory combining particle physics with Einstein's theory of gravitation. Born in Los Angeles and raised in San Diego, California, Lisi received bachelor's degrees with highest honors in physics and mathematics from the University of California, Los Angeles, and a doctorate in physics from the University of California, San Diego. After moving to the island of Maui, Lisi balanced his efforts between physics research, scientific consulting, and surfing. His work has been featured in many academic, popular, and online publications.
Reichart has produced over 120 consumer products and pioneered dozens of technologies over the past 30 years including one of the first multiplayer video games, co-designed the first set-top computer, created Disney's Animation Studio software, designed slot machines for Vegas, Toys for Mattel, and weapons for the Defense Department. From their Laboratory nicknamed "The Barn" Garrett and Reichart evaluate and test an array of newly developed prototypes for the series.
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Hollywood Farmers' Market: Edible Spring Blossoms Hollywood, California
Flowers are popping up all over the Hollywood farmers' market, and not just the kind you can display in a vase. This weekend, we spotted so many pretty bunches of edible blossoms, from Asian greens to arugula. With winter behind us, we're ready to add some spring color, and perhaps a peppery bite, to our cooking.
• 1 Arugula – We first discovered arugula blossoms last spring and have been anxiously awaiting their return. At the Hollywood Farmers' Market, they're available at Finley Farms. Use the peppery-sweet flowers in salads, sandwiches, soups, and eggs and check out the arugula blossoms spotlight for more ideas and recipes.
• 2 Rapini or broccoli rabe – When we saw this at McGrath Family Farms, we couldn't immediately identify it since we'd never seen rapini with quite so many flowers! Here's a great recipe for sautéed Sesame Broccoli Rabe, though if you have stalks like these that are practically all-flower, try using the blossoms in a salad. They add a delicately bitter, spicy bite.
• 3 Chamomile – Chamomile isn't just good for making tea. With their subtle apple flavor, the flowers can be used to decorate cupcakes, pretty up a fruit salad, or flavor ice cream. This New York Times recipe for Chamomile Ice Milk sounds heavenly.
• 4 Gai lan or Chinese broccoli – Different varieties of gai lan may have white or yellow flowers, but their bluish-green leaves help distinguish them from other, similar Asian greens. Gai lan is mildly bitter and good steamed, blanched, or stir-fried. We especially like this recipe for Chinese Broccoli with Five-Spice Sauce and roasted peanuts.
• 5 Choy sum or yu choy – Choy sum has white or green stalks and yellow flowers. When buying, look for tender leaves and stalks. This slightly bitter, fast-cooking vegetable may be steamed, blanched, stir fried, or added to soups. Here's a simple, fresh recipe from Steamy Kitchen for Garlic Yu Choy.
• For more information on the Hollywood farmers' market and other Los Angeles area markets, visit Farmernet.com
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by Lord Simian » Thu May 23, 2013 7:32 am
The guy who has had pretty much 95% of this board ask moderators to force a stop to him posting tropes shouldn't be telling other people what THEY can and can't say. Too much pot-on-kettle action for anyone's good this early in the morning.
by Herald » Thu May 23, 2013 7:40 am
I see you didn't understand that it was a joke (unlike said requests). Good to know.
by DoctorStupid » Thu May 23, 2013 9:00 am
How could I not assume that's what you meant? The logic in this statement implies that you believe that he meant that "pandering to male nerds" only means "featuring nearly naked women". Otherwise you wouldn't have made the comment about missing scenes in the original show. Also...
"=" means equal (of course). This means the two things are synonymous. You cannot be one without being the other. By this logic, if you indeed were saying that the correlation was not necessarily exclusive, then you also believe that Spock yelling "KHAAAAAAN!!!!!" is a form of nearly naked women. WTF am I talking about? Allow me to illustrate.
If pandering to male nerds = nearly naked women
and pandering to male nerds = Spock yelling "KHAAAAAAAN!!!"
then nearly naked women = Spock yelling "KHAAAAAAAN!!!"
(this, of course, assumes that you agree that the Spock scene in question really was a treat for the male nerds in the audience, who we earlier established were the primary audience of the original movies)
In reality, "nearly naked women" is a subset of "pandering to male nerds". If you had said...
...then I would not have assumed you were implying exclusivity.
Now all that being said...we've all gone back and fourth so many times on this, I'm actually not really sure what it is that you were trying to prove. Did PDH say at some point that he did not believe that naked chicks were a way of pandering to male nerds? I guess what I'm asking is what exactly is it that you have proven that PDH is unable to argue regarding all this?
Very true. The emotional connections I'm referring to are triggered by sexually explicit imagery. Lust, for example.
Ha ha, not sure why you ever questioned that I did...I was purposefully clear about it in my first post about the subject. (below)
HA! Touche!
What??? Why on earth not?!? Theoretical debate is the best kind! I'm more interested in debating about this than whether or not you can school PDH on the semantics of a couple of his posts, frankly. Exponentially more, in fact. Also, I'm pretty sure it's a lot more in line with the topic of the thread, ha ha.
Okay, ONE LAST comment. The only reason I mentioned that people may be biased against you was to make a point. The way you argue is pretty hostile for the most part. The POINT of arguing (or debating) is to prove a point. Another way to put it is to get the people you're talking with to agree with you. How can you do that if everyone is getting annoyed and angry at you? I'm certainly not saying you're the only culprit here, but it seems like you take the most heat and honestly, you're posts are often extremely insulting. Not to me mind you, and I think that's because I try to be really professional and respectful in my posts, but in my opinion, even if someone insults you in their post, the best thing to do is diffuse the situation and try to get things civilized again. No one will listen to you if you are fighting. People lose respect for you and the less respect someone has for you, the less they want to listen. My observation is that a lot of people here have lost respect for each other and thus tend to just wait for their turn to speak instead of actually listening to what the other guy has to say.
And as for biases...we ALL are completely riddled with them. Anyone who says that they are free from bias (or have very few biases) typically are just unaware of the biases they have.
Okay, I'm done. FOR NOW! MWAH HA HA HA!
by BlueStreak » Thu May 23, 2013 9:15 amSaw the movie last night, so I can finally form a full opinion about the film.
I think both sides make some good points. Carol Marcus mainly exists to advance the plot and get hit on by Kirk and McCoy. Uhura, on the other hand, is shown to be a pretty integral character to the story, although she does seem to spend a lot of her time getting emotional over Spock (or Kirk).
The underwear scene is 100% unnecessary and only exists to get Alice Eve mostly naked.
by Schlemmer » Thu May 23, 2013 9:25 am
Wouldn't that make it 100% necessary, then?
by Herald » Thu May 23, 2013 10:14 am
I don't consider "equal" to mean "completely interchangeable". Even words that are synonymous are not completely interchangeable, since different words have different connotations, shading the meaning of a phrase in a different direction, sometimes slightly, sometimes dramatically.
Or, to get closer to the point, we say that men and women are equal. But does that make us interchangeable?? Good Lord, no! I, for one, would rather look at a pretty lady than a handsome guy; those two are not interchangeable to me.
And that's what I meant at the outset. Just because I did not mention EVERY element that appeals to male nerds doesn't mean I think that "nearly naked women" is the ONLY element that appeals to male nerds.
As am I. Like I said, I deliberately nixed that argument the first time he attempted it.
That, too.
As you mentioned, many of us have already lost that respect for each other. And frankly, I already know that there's no possibility of getting any back from this bunch, so there's no point in me bothering to try. As I've told them before, I'm not interested in getting them to agree with me on anything, since they never would, no matter how nicely I phrase anything. To them, "The Complainer Is ALWAYS Wrong." So when I post, I'm only out to get my point -- whatever it is on any given topic -- across. If people agree, that's great; if they disagree, well, it depends on how they disagree...
As you mentioned, you're respectful even in disagreement, so you're cool. These other guys?? I know their tricks all-too well -- apparently MORE than they do mine, despite all their claims. Really, I only take the most heat because I'm more outspoken than most and don't just take their crap when they start flinging it. They even make fun of the more self-effacing people, like Sdsichero -- or, as some of them call him, "Nerdyboy". So much for nicer being safer...
I actually hope that they take the advice a few people have given on this thread, and not bother starting an argument with me anymore. I have never asked anyone for one in the first place; I just come in, express an opinion on something, and one of them decides to make an issue of it.
Certain people, like "Jubilee", will try to pick a fight just because I posted something, while pretty much ignoring the actual topic completely. Check out the "6 Stupid Superheroine Costumes" thread I started. What's the first thing "Jubilee" posts?? An idiotic personal attack on why I started the thread. And Fieldy Snuts comes along to agree with him. Nothing that addresses the actual topic from either of them. Like I said, PREDICTABLE. Needless to say, those people in particular should feel free to stay out of my way. Of course, I know full well they won't, because they can't help themselves, as demonstrated by the aforementioned thread.
That's my point about reactions to Big Bang Theory. Whether they realize it or not, nerds who vehemently hate the show will do so because they have an inherent bias against it, due to being the target of the jokes.
by The Old Doctor » Thu May 23, 2013 10:19 amJUDE!!!
I need a reader's digest filter for Herald's posts. I sorta want to read them, but I really don't want to read all that is there.
Can it be done?
by Herald » Thu May 23, 2013 10:31 am
That last post got scrambled, Cat. I fixed it, so try reading it now.
Or you can buy a copy of "CliffsNotes for Herald Posts", written by me, for the low, low price of $19.99.
by S.F. Jude Terror » Thu May 23, 2013 10:32 am
It's not worth it, man.
by The Old Doctor » Thu May 23, 2013 10:33 am
Still too long.
If I can't steal it, it's NOT worth buying.
by Schlemmer » Thu May 23, 2013 10:52 am
Herald torrents
by The Old Doctor » Thu May 23, 2013 10:54 am
Those are virused.
by Herald » Thu May 23, 2013 11:09 am
A good question, since the actual topic tends to get lost EVERY time we get into these arguments.
I refer back to my post on page 3, which quotes PDH saying:
To which I replied:
And that's my post in its entirety.
I specifically wanted to confirm the part in which PDH mentioned "...when you do something like [having nearly naked women traipse around in a movie] you are basically saying, 'we're not that bothered about the female audience,' which again is fine... so if you want to make a film pandering to male nerds, go for it."
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Tonight's episode sees the remaining eight couples head for Cape Town in South Africa, where one will be eliminated. Along the way, they jump out of planes, deliver gifts to orphans, ride quad bikes through sand dunes and shout at each other a lot.
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Quote from: georgiapeach on June 12, 2011, 01:21:30 AMWhich one are your talking about? If it is new, can you describe it??The first one on http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25496.msg617447.html#msg617447I tried to grab it and its telling me the video is no longer available.
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Jennifer Aniston & Justin Theroux: LACMA Gala with Drew Barrymore!
Jennifer Aniston and Justin Theroux meet up with pals Drew Barrymore and Will Kopelman inside the 2012 LACMA Art + Film Gala held on Saturday (October 27) in Los Angeles.
The group checked out some pics of Drew and Will's newborn daughter Olive on his iPhone. The event marked the couple's first official appearance since the baby's birth just one month ago.
At the event, Drew also met up with her BFF and Charlie's Angels co-star Cameron Diaz, as well as Minka Kelly, who starred on the recent Charlie's Angels television series.
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This photography thing–it's about light!
I've had many people ask me throughout my career how I achieve "that look" in my imagery. My answer is always the same–it's about being where you need to be when Mother Nature puts on the light show, and it's about understanding how to capture it.
Skies were gray and stormy last night in the Salt Lake valley, yet there was a sliver of sky on the horizon that gave me enough hope to get out and shoot some trail running imagery. We …
shot some stuff with killer clouds, and then we watched (and proceeded to run around like chickens with our heads cut off!) as the sun slipped into that sliver of sky and proceeded to bathe everything around us in a hue of gold nearly impossible to describe.
The image comparison here is perfect for illustrating the immense power of golden light. You can't replicate it. Two shots, nearly identical save for the ridiculous gap light in the image on the right.
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Standing behind a oneway glass window, could your dog pick you out of a police lineup? According to new findings in the journal Animal Behaviour, not only do dogs recognize their owners' faces, but they rely on sight more than previously thought to identify their best friend. In addition, dogs prefer to stare at their owner's familiar visage rather than at a stranger's mug.
Dr. Paolo Mongillo from the University of Padua led the study called Selective attention to humans in companion dogs, canis familiaris. The team's discoveries shed light on how thousands of years of domestication have affected canine behavior. Mongillo realized that although others had studied how dogs interacted with humans, no one had tried to explain how dogs focused their attention on one person over others or how much dogs seemed to prefer their special person.
Sixty dogs were used in the Italian researchers' experiment to determine whether dogs could recognize the facial features of their owners without smelling them or listening to their voices. Dr. Mongillo and his team had the owner and a stranger walk across a room several times with each dog watching from afar. The people walked in opposite directions so they crossed several times in front of the dog. The scientists compared the amount of attention paid to the owners and the strangers. As expected, the strangers got quick glances while the owners received long gazes.
Next, the volunteers were asked to leave the room via two different doors. The dog was allowed to move freely throughout the room. Most dogs chose to wait by the owner's exit. This was the anticipated outcome but no one previously ever gauged the degree of attentiveness. Theteam measured the length of the gaze bouts and the overall duration of visual orientation toward different targets (the doors).
Dr. Mongillo suggests this observed behavior separates dogs from their wolf cousins. Wild canids are tuned into body signals and cues from other animals in their social groups while pet dogs are so much a part of a human social group that they are even able to distinguish our faces. Think of the dog tied up to the lamp post in the crowded city while the owners dine. These pups study every face that leaves the restaurant until their grand reunion. This visual discrimination skill is a by-product of domestication especially coexistence with the specific two-legged creatures who cater to their every canine whim.
The second part of the study looked like something off the Sci Fi Channel. To make sure the dogs weren't relying on scent, the human participants were asked to repeat the experiment with bags over their heads. In this phase the dogs were much less attentive to their owners. (It is unclear whether Dr. Mongillo controlled for the canine embarrassment factor. There is a chance that a self-respected pooch may not wish to associate with anyone who looks so bizarre or sinister.)
In a final test, dogs seven years old or older were less likely to watch their owner or sit by their owner's door which Dr. Mongillo says demonstrates that concentration diminishes with age. I beg to differ. Maybe visual acuity is weaker; or maybe mature dogs just don't fret anymore, because they are secure their owners will return.
So, to get back to the question of the police lineup, the answer is a resounding Yes. Your dog can pick you out of a line up. If less than seven years old, "Buster" would probably point his incriminating paw at you. Don't bring him along as an accomplice if you are planning a crime spree; unless, of course, you decide to wear an outlaw mask or put a silly bag over your head.
•TWO HOLIDAY PET IDEAS… The 2011 Buddy Cares Calendar makes a great stocking stuffer. All proceeds from the $10 calendar benefit Buddy Cares, which is the wellness 501 (c) 3 organization that aids Babylon Town Shelter dogs and cats. Calendars are available at the shelter, Town Hall or by email: firstname.lastname@example.com. Mr. July is "Phelps" the Babylon Shelter and later Last Hope Retriever mix who swam the Mayhew Canal and was profiled here in "Pets" several times.
•Trees of Love Lighting Ceremony Last Hope Animal Rescue is continuing a 12-year-old tradition. Ribbons are placed on two Trees of Love to honor living and to remember deceased cherished pets while a third tree is decorated with ribbons remembering the countless pets who died unwanted in shelters around thecountry. These ribbons are personalized and can be purchased for a $10 donation each at www.lasthopeanimalrescue. org (Coming Events). The public is invited to the tree lighting ceremony and refreshments this Sat. December 18 at 4 pm at St. Bede's Church, 220 Berry Hill Rd, Syosset.
•For Adoption at Babylon Town Shelter (631- 643-9270) Lamar St. W. Babylon: "The Wrong Brothers- Wilbur & Orville" in Cage 4 are two adorable Retriever/Aussie mixes, about 10 months old, found flying around Birchwood Park in Deer Park. Someone already neutered them. "Shadow" in C-1 is a senior longhaired female cat, very "purrsonable."
Assorted Shepherds: "Steve" in Cage 1; male/female duo in Cage 44, also found in Deer Park.
Males: "Davy"# 93520 Pit; Mini Poodle #93717 recovering well from fractured pelvis; "Blanco" #93652 mature Chihuahua; "Oreo" & "Mac" great cats in C-9 & 10- their owner was deployed to Iraq.
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I've always had a secret desire to own a Mac. Of course, I didn't do anything to get one, but today I've made my first step: I've installed FlyakiteOSX (mirror), which is an application that transforms Windows XP in a Mac OSX. Like magic. The package is more than a simple skin, it makes subtle changes:
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* every folder can have a different color
* Spotlight clone with Google Desktop
* new effects for icons and folders
* shadows for windows and taskbar
* new cursors, screen savers, boot screen, wallpaper, Jaguar sounds
* new look for Internet Explorer, Outlook Explorer, Office
If you go to the site, you'll see a small version of an online Mac OSX desktop. The setup has about 30MB, but the result is a beautiful new operating system that makes your work on your computer more enjoyable.
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The University of Stirling's main campus is located in the heart of central Scotland. It is easily accessible by public transport. The campus is home to students from over 90 nationalities.
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text: Latest Analysis News RUSSIAGATE: Craig Murray rejects 'Russian cutouts' theory, refers to Seth Rich Craig Murray, the former British ambassador and friend of Julian Assange who says he has personal knowledge of the DNC and Podesta leaks, rejects 'Russian cutouts' theory and refers again to Seth Rich. Published 2 years ago on July 10, 2017 By Alexander Mercouris 3,455 Views Share Tweet Former British ambassador Craig Murray, who is a friend of Julian Assange and who has claimed to have direct personal knowledge of the DNC and Podesta emails found their way to Wikileaks, has written another long statement on the Russiagate scandal. The most interesting comments in this statement in my opinion are the following ones Not actually examining the obvious evidence has been a key tool in keeping the "Russian hacking" meme going. On 24 May the Guardian reported triumphantly, following the Washington Post, that "Fox News falsely alleged federal authorities had found thousands of emails between Rich and Wikileaks, when in fact law enforcement officials disputed that Rich's laptop had even been in possession of, or examined by, the FBI." It evidently did not occur to the Guardian as troubling, that those pretending to be investigating the murder of Seth Rich have not looked at his laptop. There is a very plain pattern here of agencies promoting the notion of a fake "Russian crime", while failing to take the most basic and obvious initial steps if they were really investigating its existence. I might add to that, there has been no contact with me at all by those supposedly investigating. I could tell them these were leaks not hacks. Wikileaks. The clue is in the name. As I have discussed recently (see my discussion of claim (2) made in my recent article summing up the claims made in the Russiagate scandal), the US intelligence community says that the Russians did not provide the DNC and Podesta emails to Wikileaks. It guesses the Russians provided the emails to Wikileaks via cutouts. Craig Murray's article essentially rejects this claim. The original, base accusation is that it was the Russians who hacked the DNC and Podesta emails and passed them to Wikileaks. (I can assure you that is untrue). I have previously expressed my own strong doubts that the cutout theory can be true Julian Assange, Wikileaks, and ambassador Craig Murray – the latter by his own admission the contact between Wikileaks and the person or persons who actually provided the emails to Wikileaks – deny that the emails were provided to Wikileaks by the Russians. They say the emails were the result of leaks not hacks, and have hinted that the persons who provided them with the emails were disillusioned DNC staffers angered by the DNC's bias in favour of Hillary Clinton and its 'dirty tricks' campaign against Bernie Sanders. Julian Assange, Wikileaks and Craig Murray – whatever other views one has about them – are experienced people and consistent truth-tellers about their work. They are not naive people, and in Craig Murray's case he is a former senior diplomat accustomed to working with intelligence agencies and who knows how they work. There is no evidence that the people Wikileaks and Craig Murray dealt with were cutouts. Comey's words show that the US does not know their identities ("we assessed – ie. guessed – that they were some kind of cutout"), and the theory these people were cutouts is therefore no more than a guess. On the face of it it is highly unlikely that Julian Assange, Wikileaks or Craig Murray would have been deceived by cutouts, and since it is no more than a guess that the people who gave them the emails were cutouts, that theory can be discounted. Whilst Craig Murray does not specifically discuss the cutout theory in his article, the whole content and tone of the article – "I can assure you that is untrue" – rejects it. However it is his words about Seth Rich which I find especially interesting. May be I am reading more into these words than Craig Murray intended, but why mention Seth Rich at all in a discussion refuting the theory of Russian involvement propounded in the Russiagate scandal if Seth Rich had no connection to the DNC and Podesta emails? Why draw particular attention to the FBI's failure to examine Seth Rich's laptop or to conduct proper investigations both of his murder and of the whole Russiagate affair? Craig Murray moreover does this in comments which expressly say that Wikileaks obtained the DNC and Podesta emails because of leaks not hacks, he makes it clear that he has personal knowledge of the matter (he has of course been saying that for months), and he 'wonders' at the failure of the US and British authorities to question him about the affair. Frankly, I cannot help but see this article as yet another in the series of hints dropped by Julian Assange and Wikileaks and by persons connected to Wikileaks implying that Seth Rich was one of the persons who leaked the emails. I do not know whether or not Seth Rich was the person or one of the persons who leaked the DNC and Podesta emails. Perhaps he had no connection at all to the whole affair. I have previously said that rather than dole out hints about Seth Rich in this way Julian Assange, Wikileaks and now Craig Murray should come out and say openly whether or not the person or one of the persons who provided them with the emails. To those who say that this would be a breach of confidence I would simply say that by repeatedly dropping hints about Seth Rich Julian Assange, Wikileaks and now Craig Murray have breached his confidence already. To those who say that the US intelligence community and the Western media would ignore or deny any admission by Julian Assange, Wikileaks and Craig Murray that Seth Rich was the source, I would say that the world is not limited to the US intelligence community and the Western media and those who believe them, and that publication of this information is overwhelmingly in the public interest, if only because it will increase public pressure for a proper investigation of this affair. Alternatively, if for whatever reason best known to themselves and contrary to my own view Julian Assange, Wikileaks and Craig Murray decide that they cannot make any sort of public comment about Seth Rich confirming or denying his role in the DNC and Podesta emails affair, then I feel they should stop dropping hints about him. To those who say that these hints are intended to provoke a proper investigation by the US authorities both of Seth Rich's murder and of the Russiagate scandal – and Craig Murray's words appear clearly to hint at that intention – I would simply say that either a confidence is respected or it is not, that the hints have already compromised Seth Rich's confidence if he actually was involved without however achieving the intention of having either his murder or the Russiagate scandal investigated properly, and that this intention is anyway far more likely to be achieved if the true extent of Seth Rich's involvement in the DNC and Podesta emails affair is made public. Liked it? Take a second to support The Duran on Patreon! 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Published 13 hours ago on January 18, 2019 By Alex Christoforou RT CrossTalk host Peter Lavelle and The Duran's Alex Christoforou take a quick look at the New York Times hit piece citing anonymous sources, with information that the U.S. President dared to question NATO's viability. Propaganda rag, the NYT, launched its latest presidential smear aimed at discrediting Trump and provoking the establishment, warmonger left into more impeachment – Twenty-fifth Amendment talking points. Remember to Please Subscribe to The Duran's YouTube Channel. Follow The Duran Audio Podcast on Soundcloud. Via The American Conservative… The New York Times scored a serious scoop when it revealed on Monday that President Trump had questioned in governmental conversations—on more than one occasion, apparently—America's membership in NATO. Unfortunately the paper then slipped into its typical mode of nostrum journalism. My Webster's New World Dictionary defines "nostrum" as "quack medicine" entailing "exaggerated claims." Here we had quack journalism executed in behalf of quack diplomacy. The central exaggerated claim is contained in the first sentence, in which it is averred that NATO had "deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years." This is wrong, as can be seen through just a spare amount of history. True, NATO saved Europe from the menace of Russian Bolshevism. But it did so not over 70 years but over 40 years—from 1949 to 1989. That's when the Soviet Union had 1.3 million Soviet and client-state troops poised on Western Europe's doorstep, positioned for an invasion of Europe through the lowlands of Germany's Fulda Gap. How was this possible? It was possible because Joseph Stalin had pushed his armies farther and farther into the West as the German Wehrmacht collapsed at the end of World War II. In doing so, and in the process capturing nearly all of Eastern Europe, he ensured that the Soviets had no Western enemies within a thousand miles of Leningrad or within 1,200 miles of Moscow. This vast territory represented not only security for the Russian motherland (which enjoys no natural geographical barriers to deter invasion from the West) but also a potent staging area for an invasion of Western Europe. The first deterrent against such an invasion, which Stalin would have promulgated had he thought he could get away with it, was America's nuclear monopoly. By the time that was lost, NATO had emerged as a powerful and very necessary deterrent. The Soviets, concluding that the cost of an invasion was too high, defaulted to a strategy of undermining Western interests anywhere around the world where that was possible. The result was global tensions stirred up at various global trouble spots, most notably Korea and Vietnam. But Europe was saved, and NATO was the key. It deserves our respect and even reverence for its profound success as a military alliance during a time of serious threat to the West. But then the threat went away. Gone were the 1.3 million Soviet and client-state troops. Gone was Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. Indeed, gone, by 1991, was the Soviet Union itself, an artificial regime of brutal ideology superimposed upon the cultural entity of Mother Russia. It was a time for celebration. But it was also a time to contemplate the precise nature of the change that had washed over the world and to ponder what that might mean for old institutions—including NATO, a defensive military alliance created to deter aggression from a menacing enemy to the east. Here's where Western thinking went awry. Rather than accepting as a great benefit the favorable developments enhancing Western security—the Soviet military retreat, the territorial reversal, the Soviet demise—the West turned NATO into a territorial aggressor of its own, absorbing nations that had been part of the Soviet sphere of control and pushing right up to the Russian border. Now Leningrad (renamed St. Petersburg after the obliteration of the menace of Soviet communism) resides within a hundred miles of NATO military forces, while Moscow is merely 200 miles from Western troops. Since the end of the Cold War, NATO has absorbed 13 nations, some on the Russian border, others bordering lands that had been part of Russia's sphere of interest for centuries. This constitutes a policy of encirclement, which no nation can accept without protest or pushback. And if NATO were to absorb those lands of traditional Russian influence—particularly Ukraine and Georgia—that would constitute a major threat to Russian security, as Russian President Vladimir Putin has sought to emphasize to Western leaders for years. So, no, NATO has not deterred Russian aggression for 70 years. It did so for 40 and has maintained a destabilizing posture toward Russia ever since. The problem here is the West's inability to perceive how changed geopolitical circumstances might require a changed geopolitical strategy. The encirclement strategy has had plenty of critics—George Kennan before he died; academics John Mearsheimer, Stephen Walt, and Robert David English; former diplomat Jack Matlock; the editors of The Nation. But their voices have tended to get drowned out by the nostrum diplomacy and the nostrum journalism that supports it at every turn. You can't drown out Donald Trump because he's president of the United States. And so he has to be traduced, ridiculed, dismissed, and marginalized. That's what the Times story, by Julian Barnes and Helene Cooper, sought to do. Consider the lead, designed to emphasize just how outlandish Trump's musings are before the reader even has a chance to absorb what he may have been thinking: "There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, the military alliance among the United States, Europe and Canada that has deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years." Translation: "Take that, Mr. President! You're an idiot." Henry Kissinger had something interesting to say about Trump in a recent interview with the Financial Times. "I think Trump may be one of those figures in history," said the former secretary of state, "who appears from time to time to mark the end of an era and to force it to give up its old pretenses." One Western pretense about Russia, so ardently enforced by the likes of Julian Barnes and Helene Cooper (who, it may be safe to say, know less about world affairs and their history than Henry Kissinger), is that nothing really changed with the Soviet collapse and NATO had to turn aggressive in order to keep that menacing nation in its place. Trump clearly doesn't buy that pretense. He said during the campaign that NATO was obsolete. Then he backtracked, saying he only wanted other NATO members to pay their fair share of the cost of deterrence. He even confessed, after Hillary Clinton identified NATO as "the strongest military alliance in the history of the world," that he only said NATO was obsolete because he didn't know much about it. But he was learning—enough, it appears, to support as president Montenegro's entry into NATO in 2017. Is Montenegro, with 5,332 square miles and some 620,000 citizens, really a crucial element in Europe's desperate project to protect itself against Putin's Russia? We all know that Trump is a crude figure—not just in his disgusting discourse but in his fumbling efforts to execute political decisions. As a politician, he often seems like a doctor attempting to perform open-heart surgery while wearing mittens. His idle musings about leaving NATO are a case in point—an example of a politician who lacks the skill and finesse to nudge the country in necessary new directions. But Kissinger has a point about the man. America and the world have changed, while the old ways of thinking have not kept pace. The pretenses of the old have blinded the status quo defenders into thinking nothing has changed. Trump, almost alone among contemporary American politicians, is asking questions to which the world needs new answers. NATO, in its current configuration and outlook, is a danger to peace, not a guarantor of it. Robert W. Merry, longtime Washington journalist and publishing executive, is the author most recently of President McKinley: Architect of the American Century Liked it? Take a second to support The Duran on Patreon! Continue Reading Latest Nigel Farage To Back Another "Vote Leave" Campaign If UK Holds Second Brexit Referendum Nigel Farage said Friday that he would be willing to wage another "Vote Leave" campaign, even if he needed to use another party as the "vehicle" for his opposition. Published 13 hours ago on January 18, 2019 By Tyler Durden Via Zerohedge… Pro-European MPs from various political parties are pushing back against claims made by Prime Minister Theresa May's government that a second Brexit referendum – which supporters have branded as a "People's Vote" on May's deal – would take roughly 14 months to organize, according to RT. I have got hold a copy of the guidance setting out why it takes 12 months to organise another EU refrendum. You can read it for yourself here: https://t.co/5iBxHvkxKR — Christopher Hope (@christopherhope) January 17, 2019 But while support for a second vote grows, one of the most notorious proponents of the original "Vote Leave" campaign is hinting at a possible return to politics to try and fight the effort. After abandoning UKIP, the party he helped create, late last year, Nigel Farage said Friday that he would be willing to wage another "Vote Leave" campaign, even if he needed to use another party as the "vehicle" for his opposition. Farage also pointed out that a delay of Brexit Day would likely put it after the European Parliament elections in May. "I think, I fear that the House of Commons is going to effectively overturn that Brexit. To me, the most likely outcome of all of this is an extension of Article 50. There could be another referendum," he told Sky News. According to official government guidance shown to lawmakers on Wednesday, which was subsequently leaked to the Telegraph, as May tries to head off a push by ministers who see a second referendum as the best viable alternative to May's deal – a position that's becoming increasingly popular with Labour Party MPs. "In order to inform the discussions, a very short paper set out in factual detail the number of months that would be required, this was illustrative only and our position of course is that there will be no second referendum,," May said. The statement comes as May has been meeting with ministers and leaders from all parties to try to find a consensus deal that could potentially pass in the House of Commons. The 14 month estimate is how long May and her government expect it would take to pass the primary legislation calling for the referendum (seven months), conduct the question testing with the election committee (12 weeks), pass secondary legislation (six weeks) and conduct the campaigns (16 weeks). May has repeatedly insisted that a second referendum wouldn't be feasible because it would require a lengthy delay of Brexit Day, and because it would set a dangerous precedent that wouldn't offer any more clarity (if some MPs are unhappy with the outcome, couldn't they just push for a third referendum?). A spokesperson for No. 10 Downing Street said the guidance was produced purely for the purpose of "illustrative discussion" and that the government continued to oppose another vote. Meanwhile, a vote on May's "Plan B", expected to include a few minor alterations from the deal's previous iteration, has been called for Jan. 29, prompting some MPs to accuse May of trying to run out the clock. 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Kate, this is a beautiful tribute. I'm sorry to see that your aunt passed away Sunday. It looks like she had a long life and I know she was dearly loved. I really enjoyed the photos and this precious tribute to her. I've been thinking about you and Jon a lot. Hope you're doing well.ReplyDelete
Kate this is awesome,Aunt Delfreda would be honored by your tribute and I am sure she is smiling from heaven! What a gift you have in your genealogy, thank you for sharing our family history and photos.
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Ok....finishing lower level of the house. Framed in for zero clearance fireplace Saturday. Moving on to frame the rest, then hvac and electrical.
Want to do 7.1 surround and considering in wall/in ceiling speakers. Looking for experiences and thoughts on the A/V system.
Think i am doing TV over projector but opinions there too??
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I personally don't think the projectors are as versatile as TVs. I haven't cheeked the technology out in a couple years though.
We have a full on home theater with a projector and 110" screen. At the time we put ours in, projector tech was moving really fast and that meant the second-hand market had some great deals. We picked up a Sony "Ruby" (originally a $10K projector) for two grand. Yes, we took a chance buying used, but in our case it's worked out great. Provides a full HD picture with really terrific color, tone and does blacks well (one of the hardest things, BTW). To get optimal performance, most projectors/screens require a dark room, and even the paint color should be a medium to dark tone, otherwise it reflects too much light from the screen. In our case, we have a bit of a high-gain screen which dictates a fully darkened room. If you will have (or want) some ambient light, you can get a lower gain screen. Regular TV is certainly a fine option, but a projector / big screen really does make it a theater for strictly viewing, vs. a TV room where you can do other stuff besides viewing.
Projectors are certainly not as versatile. Need pretty dark room. Kinda large picture. But they sure are nice. A friend has a massive one in his basement with 7.1+ 3 or 4 subs. Very cool.
TVs are cheap now. I saw a 55" at Walmart for like $400. How about a 55 for watching tv Andries usage, then lower the screen in front of it for movies and football?
Go give the 4K TVs a look. We have a 7.1 system. We are using 8" ceiling speakers for the surrounds and rear surrounds. We are using bookshelf Klipsch speakers for the center and front speakers (since the TV and components are installed in a built-in built for the TV. The center speaker is obscured behind a hinged panel with a nice tweed grill cloth we found (old Fender Amp grill cloth). The fronts are visible, but discrete. We have an attic with easy access to the side of the built in from above. So running wiring for the surrounds and the sub was very easy.
What is the viewing distance? Drywall/insulated walls with drywall or suspended ceiling? If you're willing to use floor-standing speakers, you'll definitely have better sound than using in-wall for the front. If possible, use front speakers that are all the same- L, C and R. Don'r expect a sound bar to be adequate for high SPL use. How much automation will you need? If you do use a projector, you'll need some kind of trigger to turn it on and IR is far less reliable than a 12VDC trigger. Some receivers have it, most don't. You'll also need to let it cool down before shutting it off, so the bulb can cool without re-tempering the glass and making it brittle. These are expensive to replace and using a UPS on the system is a good idea (UPS is often used to mean surge suppressor, but I mean battery backup). I installed one for someone's office and during a strong storm last week, their power went out and came back on while he was using the computer. When the computer wasn't affected at all, he looked at his wife and said "Well, that just paid for itself".
Install 2" orange Smurf tube from the equipment location to the projector or TV, if it's not next to the equipment. HDMI sucks and it's likely that the cable will have to be replaced at some point or something added in the future.
I can't say enough good things about my Bose home theatre. i got mine about 6 yrs ago and they've developed some new stuf since then. Its expensive but it is that for good reason. i've heard louder and i've seen bigger but nothing is as clear and high quality sound as Bose.
Are you going to get a drop down screen? If not, the area you are going to be putting your TV is not that big. Go with the TV. A good projector will cost you $2500. Panasonic and Sony make great units for the money if you decide to go that route.
As far as speakers go. ARX makes an amazing speaker for the money and just won the $1000 shoot out on the Home Theater Shack. SVS, HSU or Powersound Audio will be the Subs you will want to look at.
If you want to go the extra mile and make your room sound tons better, then look at acoustically treating your room. Before you Sheetrock would be the time to start addressing this.
I just finished a small upstairs media room that tightly fits four wide in an arc and is single depth. Based on the size of the room, the nook and cabinet, I have a Sharp 80" LED. It's good in any light and okay for movies but not the same as a good projector. If the room is large enough to support a projector and larger screen then I would go that route. I have recently watched a Panasonic and JVC projector. Both knocked me out.
I'm running a 5.2 audio. I went for a system that would also sound great on music, which is a major challenge for many AV systems. The front uses small floor-standing towers and this makes a giant difference. Free-standing sounds better. Great fullrange and musical bookshelf speakers (like a dual 6" & tweeter, or single 8" & tweeter) on stands can also sound great in the front. Substantial in-cabinet (different from standard in-wall) front speakers can sound good if you fill the surrounding void in the cabinet. Smallish front satellites never sound natural to me and certainly don't play music well.
all the advice above is great. while i am a big fan of internet buying, in this case it may be better to explore local options for support and service down the road. several years ago i bought a 5.1 definitive technology system from the local dealer. besides the advantage of being able to hear the system personally i was able to get them repaired under warranty without any hassle after i smoked the fronts demo-ing apollo 13.
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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — The Kentucky Supreme Court has upheld a state law that required a conservative Amish group to post orange safety symbols on horse-drawn buggies, even though the General Assembly has since changed the law to accommodate religious objections.
The high court's decision on Thursday also upheld the convictions of several Amish men who said their religion prohibited them from displaying the bright orange triangles. Many of the men spent several days in county jails for refusing to pay fines.
In a 5-2 ruling, the court held that the men's convictions did not violate their religious freedom.
The Amish men called the orange triangle color gaudy and said their safety depends on God, not manmade symbols. Most had already been using the reflective tape that's allowed under the new law.