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This past week I received a Facebook group invitation.
For my 20th high school reunion.
The Husband and I are debating whether or not we should go. Because I didn't have many friends in high school, and the few close friends I had are unlikely to attend this reunion. You see, I attended there my junior and senior years of high school, alongside the children of politicians, lawyers and various other muckity-mucks who'd been in school together since kindergarten. (Seriously, y'all, in one class I even sat next to the daughter of a guy who ran for President. Of the United States. I mean, in case that was unclear.) Plus, there was the whole obnoxious, know-it-all thing. Ahem. The few friends I managed to make and keep were military brats like myself, transplanted into... well... the h-word comes to mind... for one to three years before graduation released them.
But I am sort of local. Like, just on the other side of the beltway local. For you non-DC people, that means I graduated from high school in Northern Virginia, and now live within an hour's drive just over the state border in Maryland. So we wouldn't have to travel far. Technically, we wouldn't even need to stay in a hotel for the night, although we probably would just to make life easier.
Except that my high school years truly were that bad. My husband thought I exaggerated until we attended my 10th reunion, well, ten years ago. It was pretty horrible. I'm told most ten year reunions are like that. Are they always terrible? Are the twentieth reunions any better? Tell me the truth, y'all... I want you to think of the most annoyingly geeky nerd in your high school and ask yourself, "was it good that he/she came?" Because that was pretty much me. I wasn't the smartest in my graduating class, by far, but I probably was the most annoying. Should I still attend?
And yes, I realize this makes me old.
And incredibly insecure.
What is it about reunions that turn
33 comments:
- Kerrie (and Jason) said...
I didn't go to my 20th reunion which was several years back now. The people I liked I have stayed in touch with, the rest, meh, don't really need to know what happened with their lives. If you don't really care about the people who are likely to be there, don't bother going.
- January 30, 2012 at 3:17 AM
- Pamster said...
I agree. Just don't go. It doesn't sound like there is any logical reason to go.
- January 30, 2012 at 3:25 AM
- Carissa said...
Oh no quick math tells me I have a 20th high school reunion this year as well....and ummm high school was h@ll for me. As in I was the target for many bullies, a school full, it was words and not fists but I have no desire to see many of them again. Hmmm we will see what happens with mine, thanks for the reminder and let me know what you decide. Good luck, I will likely not attend mine!
- January 30, 2012 at 3:27 AM
- Aus said...
Good morning my friend - wow - you are a youngen!! I'm coming up on my 35th high school reunion!!
It's been my experience that the reunion's varied from rewarding to fun to just plain amusing!! Well, my bride's more than mine! I mean where else can you go and see 1) folks that have finally grown up and are capable of adult conversations - and maybe even a little contrite (rewarding to see), 2) Enjoy the oldies and even dance a little without feeling too stupid (fun), and 3) see how some adults have never grown up and are still acting like idiots, drink too much and fall down a lot (amusing to me!!).
I'd go - if for no other reason that to let them see that no matter what they thought about you "back in the day" - you turned out to be one of the most happy and well rounded folks with an incredibly satisfying life and family!
Sometimes it's good to let folks see a success story....and you are one!
And I like to laugh at folks sometimes....never hurts!
hugs - aus and co.
- January 30, 2012 at 6:59 AM
- Christina said...
Nahh, I wouldn't go. I just had my 10th reunion. Didn't even bother. I went to a really large high school, so of course there were lots of people invited. The handful of people I still keep in touch with were mostly not going anyway. The only reasons I could think of to attend were rather snarky, ie. most of the people got fat and I didn't. Plus, it costed money that I didn't want to spend to be snarky. So I opted to decline the invitation! I suppose if I were curious enough about the others, I might've gone. But really, I would be paying to spend money with people I'm mostly indifferent about and who feel the same about me!
And btw - you're not old! I have WHITE hairs (And a white stripe EEK!) and a few white eyelashes. And I don't even have kids! ;)
- January 30, 2012 at 7:44 AM
- Amy said...
My 20th isn't for another few years (there- does that make you feel even older??!!). :) I tried to attend my 10-year, but got into a BIG argument with the hubs in the car on the way. We literally pulled in the drive way of the event, turned around, and drove right back home (thankfully, I'm pretty local as well). I didn't really miss going, and I probably won't go to the 20th. Most of my highschool friends "went with" my ex-highschool-sweetheart after we broke up, so there's really no love lost there. I saw take the evening & have a nice date-night with your hubs!! :)
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- January 30, 2012 at 7:55 AM
- prechrswife said...
My class didn't actually have a 20th reunion, but they did have a big school-wide reunion back in December (small, private school that is no longer open). I would have liked to have gone, but we didn't have the vacation time. I did go with my husband to his a few years ago. He was somewhat like you described yourself in school, except he had been there for his whole life. That said, he was glad he went and was impressed by how much some people had changed as they had grown into adulthood. Of course, a few hadn't, but that's human nature. (and those kept to themselves).
And I now feel really old, knowing you are 2 years younger than I am. ;-)
- January 30, 2012 at 8:01 AM
- Jennifer said...
You made me realize that I graduated from high school 17 years ago! I can hardly believe it so I double checked on a calculator!
Personally, I wouldn't go to my reunion. I didn't care for the high school experience and the few people I did like I still keep in touch with. It might be true that the jerks are nice now, but I don't want to take the chance that they are still jerks. I can still feel my blood pressure rise when I remember how I was treated by a particular few who are sure to come to any reunion.
I'd say... if you know some of the people you do like are going to be in town, then arrange for a small dinner party or something to enjoy their company.
- January 30, 2012 at 8:04 AM
- autumnesf said...
I went to so many schools. If I ever got an invite I'd be like "why?". But see, the high school I actually graduated from must feel the same way....
Which might be unfair considering I moved the last semester of my senior year also. Now that sucked.
- January 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM
- Desiree' said...
Sounds like me...I graduated after attending only two years with kids who spent their whole lives togther...not fun, went to my 10th...ick, skipped the 20th last year...no need to go. I have friends and am not interested in seeing old high school kids who may or may not have been nice...just my opinion though :)
- January 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM
- TK said...
I didn't go to my 20th either. Not that I am old enough for my 20th because, you know, I'm only 29...
- January 30, 2012 at 8:42 AM
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- January 30, 2012 at 8:51 AM
- Marla said...
I went to mine, but I'm one of those weirdos that still hangs with a lot of the people I went to school with. I say go, if you hate it, you can always play the kid-needs-us-at-home card and get the heck out of there.
Sorry I haven't been around lately, I must catch up on your blog!!
- January 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM
- Nikki said...
My 20th should be this year if there is one. I will probably go just to show off pictures of my kids. See a few people that i don't often get to see. Look on the bright side, you can always tell them that you are a famous internet blogger now.
- January 30, 2012 at 10:05 AM
- Nikki said...
My 20th should be this year if there is one. I will probably go just to show off pictures of my kids. See a few people that i don't often get to see. Look on the bright side, you can always tell them that you are a famous internet blogger now.
- January 30, 2012 at 10:05 AM
- Casa Bicicleta said...
I didn't go to my high school reunion because I was listed as MIA. (teehee) I just couldn't imagine going back to see people I didn't have any meaningful relationship with. Sure I was curious where they had ended up in their lives but not enough to go stand around a roomful of people I never cared about.
I did, however, go to my college reunion. I had wonderful friendships, and still do, with many people from college.
Whatever you end up doing TM, you have to pinky swear you will write about it. Curious minds want to know what you do!
- January 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM
- Ironsan said...
Skip it. I went to a large high school and while it was not hell for me, I have skipped every reunion. Friends have gone so I know I did not miss anything. There is just too much posturing at reunions for any real connections and the friends you kept in contact with since then, are the real people you would want to spend time with anyway.
- January 30, 2012 at 10:59 AM
- LucisMomma said...
I hated my high school years, too. My dad was flabbergsted when I said I had no desire to attend reunions (they still live in the town where I graduated--I live 2000 miles away). One of the reunions was a cruise--gross! To be stuck on a ship with a bunch of people who wouldn't talk to me when I was in high school. (geeks at my school had few friends) Didn't want to relive that.
- January 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM
- Deb said...
I was a military brat too. Came into my high school before my junior year. I was not able to attend my 10th reunion, but I did attend my 20th year reunion. I will never attend another reunion. The same stupid clicques from high school were still in play, I could not believe it. I talked to another firend when our 25th reunion came up and he indicated the same thing- no way was he going given how bad it was at the 20th year.
my vote- skip it. take a weekend getaway with your husband and enjoy yourselves without the kids and without all the left over HS drama.
- January 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM
- Mahmee said...
Why would you want to subject yourself (and most likely put money toward) that kind of torture? You're a Mom! Aren't your days already filled with self-doubt, insecurity and worry? I know mine are. I'm coming up on what would be my class's 28th reunion. I'll be passing on that one just as I have all others. Blech. I've always thought of Highschool as something one has to endure. Get it over with and get the heck out. No one ever has to go back. Grab your man and run...run the other way!...for a nice weekend elsewhere.
- January 30, 2012 at 4:22 PM
- Girly Girl Mommy said...
So with you. My 20th is this summer. Got a FB group invite-thingy too. And went to a neighboring HS (we emailed about that a year or so ago), so I can really understand the make up of the kids- ahh, the lovely greater DC area! I had a great HS experience- with my mini crowd. Don't care to see the greater masses. I've gotten more info than was necessary already by reading the FB group posts. Something about "20th" makes me feel old, and I'm not ready to admit that in person either.
- January 30, 2012 at 4:30 PM
- Sharie said...
My 20th was last summer, made me feel old too...I went to my 10 year stayed about 90 minutes and talked to one of my good friends from high school (who didn't go to my school, but happened to marry one of the tolerable girls in my class). When his wife came up and told me everyone was asking who the chick was talking to the husbands I decided it was time to leave.
I figured if I wasn't even recognized I probably wouldn't be missed the rest of the weekend. There were 86 kids in our class BTW, not a huge schoo;)
I skipped the 20 actually left work and walked to my car parked across the street from where the Friday night event was, right as it was starting. A few of my friends went, but most of those I want to see, I see outside of the reunion and those I would have liked to see weren't going. I didn't see a point in hanging out in a bar with a bunch of people I hardly know feeling awkward. I too was the annoying person in our class and seem to revert to that when I am uncomfortable;)
- January 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM
- Logical Libby said...
I was told by someone who went to their 20th it is THE reunion you don't want to miss, because it's the one where you get to see who got fat. 10 years, everyone still looks the same. 20? Fatsville.
Still, don't go if you think you are going to hate it.
- January 30, 2012 at 9:19 PM
- Claudia said...
Go! It'll be weird, but it'll be hilarious.
- January 31, 2012 at 3:20 AM
- Briana's Mom said...
You might remember I just dealt with this exact issue back in July.
I actually had a very good time at both of my reunions. If you go, just have a back up plan. We were going to duck out and go to a movie if the reunion stunk. We didn't need the backup plan, but it was nice knowing I had one! LOL!
- January 31, 2012 at 10:18 AM
- Anonymous said...
I don't know why reunions turn us into quivering masses of teenage angst, but they do, so I have never gone to a reunion. in fact, i'd managed to get off all lists and be completely "lost" (easier said than done as I went to a small christian high school where my mother was school nurse and my brother teaches at another nearby school). Now, thanks to facebook, I am once again "found." I still don't go. For one, they cost money. Why would I spend money for the dubious pleasure of seeing people I didn't like much in high school, when I could spend money on a date or taking my kids someplace fun? My thoughts, anyway.
- January 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM
- Anonymous said...
I don't know why reunions turn us into quivering masses of teenage angst, but they do, so I have never gone to a reunion. in fact, i'd managed to get off all lists and be completely "lost" (easier said than done as I went to a small christian high school where my mother was school nurse and my brother teaches at another nearby school). Now, thanks to facebook, I am once again "found." I still don't go. For one, they cost money. Why would I spend money for the dubious pleasure of seeing people I didn't like much in high school, when I could spend money on a date or taking my kids someplace fun? My thoughts, anyway.
- January 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM
- Alyson and Ford said...
My HS class didn't have alot of reunions and there were so many people in our graduating class (380+), that I was only friends with about 40 of them.... But I did decide to attend my 35th last summer (yep, I think I am the oldest Mom of a five-year old!) and had a wonderful time. Heck, it was all good, who can remember anything from 35 years ago? A barrel of laughs. Enjoy it if you decide to go!
Alyzabeth's Mommmy
- February 1, 2012 at 1:58 AM
- snekcip said...
I personally had a GREAT time at ALL our class reunions!! I went to the 10th, 20th and can't WAIT until the 30th (2013)!! My HS close friends *who I stay in contact w/often* fly in from the states in which they now reside. I don't know how other HS reunions are but ours usually begin on a Thurs and end on a Sunday!! GOOD TIMES ALL AROUND!! HS reunions are BIG in my part of the woods and each class usually always have a good turnout. I think it solely rest on whether HS was a good experience for the individual.
- February 1, 2012 at 3:13 PM
- The Byrd's Nest said...
Yuck...high school:( I graduated 31 years ago and have never been to one of my reunions. I didn't like high school and I only keep in touch with two people I graduated with. So in my opinion, if you didn't enjoy those people then...you probably are not going to enjoy them now. Stay home and snuggle with the ones you love the most:)
- February 1, 2012 at 4:01 PM
- Cedar said...
Oh, and I didn't go to my 20 year high school reunion and I didn't feel any guilt. But now that I kind of would like to, I don't have the opportunity. This summer is my husband's but I don't think it will happen. Traveling so soon after the baby doesn't seem like something to plan on.
- February 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM
- Carrie said...
My 20 year was last summer. My excuse was that my brother was getting married, but I wouldn't have gone regardless. I live about 7 hrs away and my parents live there but the people I wanted to see didn't go. Also, I technically wasn't invited. Weird, but true. The popular kids got tmjuuu. Vvvggvvvvogether and made plans and then sent out kkkk
- February 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM
- Aunt LoLo said...
Oh, I certainly HOPE the 20 year will be better than the 10 year!! I went to the 10 year...a few years ago. ;-) It was way too many people, crammed into way too small a room, with music that was way too loud. (I don't have a great excuse not to go, either - I moved "home." As in, the reunion was a 15 minute drive from where I live. ;-))
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like to see anyone would so send 2nd coming of basco ta jolokia http://henshinjustice.com/wordpress/.../basco_lol.jpg aka ONORE MYKAGE a one way ticket to "dead man walking".
yea even more NO!!! read some tv tropes & it mention Alicia resembles Lacus Clyne and has the same voice actress.
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Well, it's turning out like I thought. They squandered their time and now are forced to rush everything else. A real shame they spent so many episodes on Amata angsting over his Mother, who could care less about him, all that time to develop Zessica even though they planned for this to happen the entire time, those "random" reveals that completely messed up Genesis and the original love story, and now they're starting to kill characters off in droves(with little development). Seems like they're panicking and using death to try and finish up their plot points or to quickly deal with issues they don't have the time to touch on. Perhaps they should have put someone else in charge of this project, you know someone that knows how to stay focus?
I fully expect them to say "screw it" with Zessica and kill her off in the end, most likely sacrifice(to stop Mykage because clearly nothing but killing yourself can end his trolling), because of her "love" for Amata. Worse if she doesn't even appear anymore and just say Mykage has full control. Which we all know Amata will cry about for all 5 seconds than going back to Mikono mode. I mean he's already done it before and considering how easily he forgave his horrible parents and will most likely take his mother's bad advice....
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Simply put, it's the easy way out of the corner that they've wrote themselves into with Zessica. Anything else would require frankly startling character development which honestly could come off as an asspull if not handled superbly (honestly, I can't see Zessica easily getting over Amata or the Mykage thing now; not now, I just couldn't swallow it).
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The only thing that could allow it to happen is get over the bodysnatch and if she does so no need for her to kill herself.
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That would require the creators actually moving characters off their one track train ride. They wont let Zessica move on from Amata, they even showed what happens when she tried to forget about Amata so he could be happy. It only made things worse and locked her into that promise with Mykage when she was emotionally distressed. Thus her death is pretty much going to happen, or at least her final fate wont be a pretty one. The sad thing is that Amata and Mikono, if they get together, wont care about her fate or anyone else's fate in the end because fate got them together so fate must be a pretty cool guy, right?
As for her body. They may not show her inside again, thus her death will occur, or they will go the cliche route of her appearing, fighting for her body, and than holding Mykage in place and having Amata or Mikono kill her so she can try and take Mykage with her because she "loves" Amata so much that she will die to protect him. Than they'll have Amata carry Mikono off into the sunset and pretend he never met Zessica and Mikono will suddenly never mention Kagura ever again.
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Frankly, I think a lot of the *single minded desires* only come off as absurd because of what I brought up before, alloted time vs. running plot threads. I think some characters are meant to come off as *monsters* for their love, while others are meant to be the *normal* people caught in the storm.
Look at Mikono and Zessica. Mikono is stuck in the middle of an obsessive tug of war between two halves of the same person who is her destiny no matter how you turn, shake, or rock the world. Meanwhile, Zessica is stuck on the outside and unable to get in because of the above (the final nail in the coffin, probably what broke her enough for Mykage to possess her, was the reveal of Amata = Apollo = destined to be with Mikono).
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I cannot help but think that this episode was just making fun of everything that's going on, or is unintentionally hilarious in bad ways. (Start off that father was with Kagura, while mother was with Amata, the set-up is too perfect for coincidence, tbh) Izumo is identified with and compared to Kagura (screw the world, I want my woman), while Alicia was identified with and compared to Amata (fell in love at first sight), and, by the end of their episode, it becomes clear that the traits now shared by Kagura and Amata are what caused the whole mess in the first place plus some compounding factors like Mykage (but he's still a compounding factor).
I won't even bring up the laundry list of inconsistencies that would arise if "gloom" or "not being with the one she loves" was what our resident angel needed to take house in Zessica. #1 on that list being: Didn't need to do anything.
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I am going to say that I feel very upset for Amata. Only because beautiful Alicia is gone now. I seriously hate Mikage now. He only reminds that he is a wannabe woman. I also dislike Kagura for taking Mikono all to himself. -.- One of the most emotional episodes I have ever seen.
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Anyone else confused when Amata said "I was afraid to go after the one I love" or something to that effect? Has he not been egging for Mikono this entire time? Didn't he go to Altair because he was going after the one he loved? It this yet another retcon to try and make him understand his horrible mother?
I also don't understand how everyone can hate Mykage so easily yet they instantly forgive Izumo. Izumo may not have wanted to take Alicia to Altair but he still attacked Vega and willingly kidnapped countless other woman only to erase their memories after they turned into men than making them his soldiers. Lets also not forget his rough treatment of Kagura and his totally screwed up treatment of Amata. There's nothing redeemable about him at all, his death and his "love" for Alicia doesn't give him a free pass for all the people he abducted or the countless innocents killed on Vega during his abductions that he willingly participated in and gave the okay for future missions. Not once did he try to resolve this peacefully, it was only after **** hit the fan and his abductions were failing that he bothered to try and force his demands on Vega. Even than he told them very little and fully expected them to comply in giving him Rare Igura.
It's like everyone forgets that Izumo is the main reason Mix got turned into Mixy and why Mixy has altered memories.
Alicia may have had noble intentions but like she said she had Amata. Her responsibility was to him first, he was entirely dependent upon her and unlike Altair's state, which was its own fault in a way, he had done nothing wrong. Yet even though she was a rich actress she couldn't have even bothered to have a guardian set up for him after agreeing to go with her lover? She left him traumitized and alone to live on the streets while being treated like **** by others because of his wings. I don't care what they try and say or do, what she did was wrong but it was worse fo Amata to so easily forgive her despite all the BS she put him through.
No reason to hate on Kagura. Mikono has shown far more interest in him and just like Zessica its a wasted opportunity and wasted time that should have been spent on Amata and Mikono since they are the ones they're pushing for as End Game.
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A beautifully absurd reason to forgive your mother who abandoned you in a graveyard
Ahh, Alisia Alisia, why they gave you that beautiful voice ... anyways I'm amazed and amused by the total non-sense of all the Alisia / Izumo story. As already mentioned I guess (beause I didn't read all the prev posts), basically Alisia left Amata for her lover that was by chance also his father. They abandoned him. Izumo apparently knew about that. And even if there were probably good reasons having done that in another universe, the way the show portayed it looks completely wrong. If I think about it I can't stop laughing Adding to that an intense closure episode for them and for the poor Amata, that makes the whole thing even more absurd.
In the end Alisia told Amata to keep loving the girl she love as they have done... mmm nice advice mum. As he hasn't kept doing that from episode one With the advice Alisia seemed to imply even that he had to follow the same path his parents had, like their path was worthy to be followed. And looking at the parents end we could assume that if they keep loving each other, Mikono will be killed by Mykage/Zessica and Amata by Kagura in the end. And I don't know why but I think that all the Mikono / Amata haters would revalue the show instantly
Well, anyways after the middle episodes finally I'm enjoying the show again.
At this point it is really hard to even think at how it will end. And we still have the mourning marriage vision to arrange.
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Rant time! Every day – yeah, pretty much every day – I get an email from somebody seeking to hire a slave. In my mind's eye, I see them standing there with a whip and an evil laughter. "Muuaahhahahhahahaaaaa!"
Here is one of those emails I just received.
I am looking for an article writer who can write quality articles for the keyword and the special instruction that i provide. I need 500 words and 700 words articles meeting the deadline. I give $1.20 for 500 words article and $2.40 for 700 words article. You can take a keyword after submitting an article. Time frame to complete 500 word article is 2hrs and 4 hrs for 700 words article. Let me know if you have any questions.
I was tempted to respond…
"Yeah, and I give $5.40 for a quality transatlantic flight. However, I got tired of the "comfortable" seating in the catapult, and the landing is usually quite rough – especially since I always hit the office tower across the street. But, "Hey", you can't beat the price, tight?
I didn't send that email – what's the point of arguing with an $%#@%! and starting a flame war with someone whose intelligence level makes him a threat to anybody standing close enough when he sets himself on fire?
A much better way to handle such things is…


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See National, World, & Olympic figure skaters at the Ice Chips show on Saturday, April 10 at 1 p.m. at Harvard University. Girl Scouts of Eastern Massachusetts (GSEM) has partnered with Ice Chips for discounted tickets at just $10. Family members may attend with Scouts.
GET BALANCED Local National competitors and World and Olympic guest skaters will perform with a cast of 100, including Girl Scouts from GSEM.
Girl Scouts can join the skaters for a meet-and-greet immediately after the show.
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Registration deadline is March 29.
Tickets must be picked up at a GSEM office, e-mail Martha Bezzat, firstname.lastname@example.com, with choice for pick-up location (Waltham, N.Andover, Boston, Middleboro).
The event is for all Scout levels from Daisy to Ambassador. Juliette Scouts in grades K-12 may also register.
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Shorts / Not Google Plus
The world's first antisocial network.
Not Google Plus
By Dan Gurewitch
INT. ANIMATED NOTEPAD A STICK FIGURE, let's call him STICK, walks up to the Google+ logo. He stares at it and scratches his head. NARRATOR By now you've probably heard about Google+, a new social networking platform. But there are already so many of those. A PENCIL writes the word "NOT" above the Google+. NARRATOR That's why we've created Not Google+. Joining is simple: First, don't join Google+. Then, once you've done that, don't invite your friends to join Google+. They'll all start not inviting their friends to join, and soon, nobody will feel any need or desire to join Google+, and we can all get on with our lives. During the above dialogue, the pencil draws an expanding diagram: Stick sits at a computer. Two lines are drawn to TWO OTHER FIGURES AT COMPUTERS, and from them lines to THEIR FRIENDS, then THEIR FRIENDS, etc. onward, zooming out. But each time a line is drawn, it has a BIG RED "X" over it. NARRATOR On Not Google+, you'll have fun not spending hours dividing your friends into "circles," not having to update your "stream," and not worrying about "huddles" and "hangouts" or even learning what those words mean! Stick watches helplessly as the pencil draws an OVERLY COMPLEX series of doodles, explaining the above terms with lines, arrows, circled and crossed-out images, etc., as if a frantic professor on speed is attempting to illustrate. NARRATOR In fact, Not Google+ has no learning curve at all - everyone alive has years of experience using it! You're an expert! The doodles are all erased, and the pencil draws a graduation cap & gown on Stick & puts a degree in his hand. NARRATOR Not Google+ provides the most privacy of any social platform. There's no mobile app to download. You won't have to worry about syncing it to FourSquare and Tumblr, you won't feel a compulsive, insecure need to refresh it, and it will never contribute to an irrational fear of "missing out." Various pencil doodles illustrate the above: An open window shade is DRAWN SHUT next to Stick; a slowly-loading progress bar breaks in half; a large foot steps on a buzzing cell phone; Stick sits at his computer sweating, frantically typing and clicking. NARRATOR Not Google+ accomplishes all of this simply by being, by definition, something that does not technically exist in the physical realm. No one has ever received 14 invitations to a one-woman show on a website that doesn't exist! On "realm," Stick's computer goes POOF!, vanishing into a cloud of dust right in front of him. An ANNOYING STICK FIGURE WOMAN does a dumb little dance in an attempt to impress Stick; on "doesn't exist," she's erased. NARRATOR Best of all, you're already a Not Google+ member. To continue your membership, simply continue not joining Google+. Stick stands hesitantly outside a group meeting above which a hanging banner reads "NOT GOOGLE+ CLUB." The group members amiably beckon him to join them, he does. NARRATOR Eat a cantaloupe, clean your toilet, play tetherball with a small Portuguese child - as long as you're not joining Google+, you're enjoying the benefits of Not Google+. It's that easy! Stick does all of the above actions. On "that easy," the pencil draws a disembodied HAND that HIGH-FIVES Stick. NARRATOR If you enjoyed our other products, "Definitely Not Google Wave" and "Get The Hell Out of Here With That Google Buzz Thing, Just Stop," you, like us, understand that the biggest revolution in social networking would be for there to be no more revolutions in social networking. Not Google+: Because Enough Already. Pencil draws the excess words above around the Google Wave and Google Buzz logos. They're erased. Stick walks out of a computer-filled room into a SUNNY DAY. The Not Google+ logo appears, with the slogan "Because Enough Already (TM)." END.
- Writer - Dan Gurewitch
- Animation - Studio Joho
- President of Original Content - Sam Reich
- Executive Producer - Spencer Griffin
- Director of Post Production - Michael Schaubach
- Production Manager - Sam Sparks
- Post Production Producer - Lacy Wittman
- Production Office Coordinator - David Kerns
- Post Production Coordinator - Amanda Madden
- Production Accountant - Christine Rodriguez
- Assistant Production Accountant - Daniel Siegel


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The cremated remains of 34 veterans and nine spouses of veterans from the Civil War, World War I and World War II were honored at the chapel at Fresh Pond Crematory, 61-40 Mount Olivet Crescent in Middle Village.
From there, the remains were taken by the American Legion Riders via motorcade and accompanied by the Patriot Guard riders to Long Island National Cemetery.
"U.S. Columbarium and Fresh Pond Crematory's mission is to provide memorial niches for all cremated remains with dignity," said J.P. DiTroia president of the columbarium. "With that in mind, it is our honor to be a part of this memorial event.
"When I see these markers in this cemetery of all those who have served, I realize that if it where not for their sacrifice we would not have the freedom that we all enjoy today," he added.


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Measuring the U.S. Constitution's Influence
A couple of days ago the New York Times published a front-page article by Adam Liptak headlined, "'We the People' Loses Appeal with People Around the World." The information presented in that article didn't strike me as a supporting the headline, so I went to look for the abstract of the underlying paper in the New York University Law Review.
David S. Law and Mila Versteeg summarize their findings this way:
In this Article, we show empirically that other countries have, in recent decades, become increasingly unlikely to model either the rights-related provisions or the basic structural provisions of their own constitutions upon those found in the U.S. Constitution. . . .The Times article focuses almost entirely attention on the rights enumerated in different constitutions. There's even a chart. It says little about governmental structure, but the paper does cover that topic.
We find some support in the data for the notion that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms has influenced constitution-making in other countries.
The Canadian Charter was instituted in 1982. I'm not surprised that it reflects today's understanding of human rights better than the U.S. Constitution's guarantees, which come mainly from the first federal Congress. The oldest parts of our Constitution reflect eighteenth-century Whig ideology and controversies, with the inherent limitations of that society.
Some of the rights that Law and Veerstag looked for, such as a presumption of innocence in criminal trials, aren't part of the U.S. Constitution but nonetheless part of U.S. law. They're probably part of U.S. culture as well; we citizens would be upset not to have them. Perhaps they should be in the national charter, but as a nation we've been reluctant to amend the Constitution—or maybe its amendment process is too difficult.
It's also no surprise to anyone who reads a newspaper that a lot more governments have a prime minister reflecting a parliamentary majority than the U.S. of A.'s structure of divided government. Even our own government chose a parliamentary system for Japan after World War 2. And no country, to my knowledge, has copied the American Electoral College.
On the other hand, one important aspect of the U.S Constitution has remained very influential, it seems to me: the fact that there is a written constitution that takes its authority from "We the People." The requirement of a written constitution, drafted and ratified by people who at least claimed to represent the population, underlies most of the world's present constitutions. There weren't a lot of examples of that in 1787. Many of them, in fact, came from the American states. For most statesmen then, a nation's "constitution" was an abstraction, a status rather than a set document, like an individual's medical constitution.
In that respect, every country that sits down to write a national constitution has been influenced by the U.S. document, even if they choose models that offer more individual protections and a different structure of government. Article 2 or the Third Amendment might not be models, but "We the People" still has appeal.


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CAMBRIDGE, UK – Sept. 6, 2005 – ARM [(LSE: ARM); (Nasdaq: ARMHY)] today announced that ARM® Jazelle® technology will be deployed in a new line of FOMA® handsets by Japan's premier mobile communications company, NTT DoCoMo, Inc. Jazelle technology will enable the creation of innovative new consumer applications.
Emerging applications such as mobile games and business tools place increased performance and power demands on Java technology-enabled handsets. ARM Jazelle technology provides handset developers with Java acceleration, delivering improved performance and reduced time-to-market for advanced Java technology-enabled devices like FOMA handsets. Through ARM's partnership with Aplix Corporation, a global leader in deploying Java technology in mobile phones, ARM Jazelle technology is being adopted in the DoJa/Java platform for FOMA handsets, which is being jointly developed by Aplix and NTT DoCoMo.
"Java technology is a key component for innovative mobile handset applications," said Kiyohito Nagata, vice president and managing director of NTT DoCoMo's Product Department. "I believe that ARM's Jazelle Java acceleration technology will contribute to the creation of the ideal environment for powerful and versatile applications."
"In 2001, Aplix integrated ARM's innovative Jazelle technology, with JBlend, Aplix's Java platform product," said Ryu Koriyama, representative director, chairman and CEO of Aplix Corporation. "Since 2003, products incorporating this fusion of Jazelle technology and JBlend have been adopted in a wide array of mobile communication devices. Today's announcement that NTT DoCoMo will implement these products in its FOMA handsets is a tremendous result for the ongoing technical cooperation between Aplix and ARM."
"Consumer demand for rich content and interactive applications without loss of performance or responsiveness is a key challenge facing mobile handset manufacturers and operators like NTT DoCoMo," said Takafumi Nishijima, president of ARM KK. "This latest development effort showcases how ARM's Jazelle acceleration technology and our partnership with a leading Java technology provider such as Aplix, enables manufacturers or operators to deliver innovative consumer applications."
ARM Jazelle DBX technology delivers an unparalleled combination of Java performance and the world's leading 32-bit embedded RISC architecture. This level of integration provides platform developers with the ability to run Java applications alongside an established operating system, middleware and application code on a single processor. This single-processor solution provides higher performance, lower system cost, reduced power, and more reliable operation at high frequency compared with coprocessor solutions and dual-processor (dedicated Java processor with native application processor) solutions or Java platforms using compilation techniques. The result is optimum performance, with a difference that users will feel unmistakably. ARM continues to develop fresh solutions that boost the performance and reduce the cost of Java platforms.
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Winston Cho needed a new stationery design and created a contest on 99designs.
2 winners were selected from 170 designs submitted by 29 freelance designers.
Social community site for tennis players. The site will be a robust portal for tennis players to find information on the latest tennis news, free instructional videos, gear information and to interact with other tennis players.
We're open to modifications to the logo if necessary
The card will be given out to executives in the sports industry as well as general contacts including players.
I've included the basic requirements below but I'm really open to almost anything as long as it looks professional (which I know it will since it's 99designs!)
I'm open to letterhead comps as well.
Two sided card
Back: logo
Front: Basic contact information:
Winston Cho
CEO, Founder
2672 Bayshore Parkway Ste 123
Mountain View, CA 94043
650 224 4566 (mobile)
650 555 1212 (phone)
650 555 1212 (fax)
e-mail: email@example.com
Web: http://www.10sworld.com
Twitter: twitter.com/10sworld
Facebook: facebook.com/10sworld
The twitter and facebook can be on the back side as well if necessary.
I'm open to a right and left side split for name and additional information. For example, name and title on left and additional information on right.
I'm also very open to non-traditional layouts and styles so don't let the requirements scare you away!
- Something that represents a sports company
- clean lines
- modern and simple fonts
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- classy look
I've attached AI files for the logo as well as a preliminary comp for the home page for the site.


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Every Monday through Friday, we deliver a different song as part our Song of the Day podcast subscription. This podcast features exclusive KEXP in-studio performances, unreleased songs, and recordings from independent artists that our DJs think you should hear. Each and every Friday we offer songs by local artists. Today's featured selection, chosen by Midday Show host Cheryl Waters, is "One Million Feet Below" by Little Pieces from their self-released EP Vampires Fill Their Waterbeds with Blood.
Upon first listen to today's song, you might be floating along serenely with Herman Jolly's guitar before his lyrics sink in and you realize this love song is less about testing the notion of absence making the "heart grow fonder" than creating an absence just to see what would happen. Seattle band Little Pieces is the melding of iconic Portland band Sunset Valley with Seattle's Guitar Defamation League. It is a power perfect vehicle for Jolly's off-kilter brand of power pop. This trio will rock it out then cool it down in a heartbeat and usually some witty stage banter to help ease the transition. Their second release Vampires Fill Their Waterbeds with Blood may be a mouthful but it's also an earful that will help battle this frosty winter weather.
I recently spoke with Little Pieces about the new album but sadly did not get to sample any of Grant's hometown hobo juice:
How long have you been playing music together? Do you remember how you all met?
Grant: We've known Herman for a long time, back from when he was in Sunset Valley. Rob and I played with Chris Mills, who was a songwriter on the same label (Sugar Free) at the time. Strangely, we were covering Herman's song "Crooked Vein", so I was playing his song before I had met him. After that, we'd always see Sunset Valley when they were in town, and were big fans and immediate friends, so it was natural to join forces when Herman moved to Seattle.
Vampires Fill Their Waterbeds with Blood is an interesting title, how did you come up with this particular collection of words? Is there a concept behind the album or is it a jab at the recent popularity of vampires?
We feel that we had no choice in today's tough vampire-driven economy.
Are you looking to release another full-length anytime soon or are you digging the EP format?
Our name is Little Pieces, so I guess that's what you'll get. It works for today's ADD culture. It actually was pretty natural, as there were some songs kicking around that needed a cozy little home. We do have another whole album half-recorded, so there's a full-length coming down the line.
What is the story/inspiration behind today's song: "One Million Feet Below?"
Rob: My version is that Herman wrote the song about falling into a giant crevice which he discovers is inhabited by an ice queen.
Grant: I think it could be about how they keep finding severed feet in the ocean up near Vancouver.
Herman: It's about leaving someone just to see if they love you enough to want you back, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't like Rob's and Grant's answers better.
How do you approach songwriting? Do you have one person who writes the majority of things or is it pretty collaborative?
Rob: Herman has a ton of songs at all times. He and Grant play around with one, tighten it up, and work out some structure. They then bring it to me and I tell them if I think it's shit or rocks. We all are allowed to express our opinions quite freely as long as there is a valid reason, good or bad. If the song is sticking, we go into steep mode (like a stew in a crock-pot) and let the juices flow.
Herman: Grant and Rob are pushing me to be a better writer. I have to build songs out of bricks now instead of straw or sticks so those guys don't blow them down.
You guys have recently shot, produced and edited a couple of videos for "Soul Track" and "Key on a Kite," what was the most challenging part of the process for you?
"Key on a Kite" we did in a couple of hours on a rooftop in San Francisco, just the three of us and two pairs of sunglasses as props. It came together almost too easily. "Soul Tack" was a big production, with a multiple shoots, a crowd scene, rolling dollies, we had to grow beards, and whatnot. It was a pretty big ordeal for no budget and tons of raw footage to deal with. And we learned that one person can easily ruin an otherwise beautifully executed scene.
Did anything wacky happen?
Well we got a lot of people drunk and then realized crowd scenes are hard to control.
Grant: I thank my Hometown Hobo Juice for that.
What's next for Little Pieces?
Europe sounds nice.
You can catch Little Pieces at The Brick in Roslyn this Saturday or at The Sunset in Seattle on January 28th. For more information and dates, check out their website or MySpace page. Herman Jolly is also the curator of the Acoustic Coal Mine, which gives local musicians a chance to preview new songs in an acoustic setting. He's took a bit of break to find a new locale but should have some dates to share soon. Until then, keep an eye on his MySpace page. For now, here is their video for "Soul Tack":


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Oct. 18, 2008
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – The MIT water polo team won their second game of the weekend, defeating Queens College, 14-6, in the Zesiger Pool Saturday afternoon. The Engineers beat Connecticut College, 16-3, last night and improve to 6-9 on the season.
Tech led, 5-1, after the first period and 8-2 at halftime and would never trail in the game. Devin Lewis led the Engineers in scoring with four goals. Leading scorer Mike Smith-Bronstein had three goals. John Preis scored twice and five other Engineers would contribute to the attack. Freshman goalkeeper Columbus Leonard had seven saves in net for MIT.
The Engineers will take on nationally-ranked St. Francis (N.Y.) tomorrow afternoon at 12:00 p.m. in their final tune-up before next weekend's Division III Eastern Championship at Johns Hopkins University.


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Which religion contains the weirder theogony, Mormonism or Scientology?
(Kolob is the star which God is said to reside near or on or…something. The theorem is in book form and looks all official and scientific and so it must be true.)
Wow, that thing's 98 pages long. I got as far as the part about god sitting on the stars and guiding their movements. Things discoverd since the time of Joseph Smith…
That was enough. Nice pictures though.
[quote author="Josie"]Which religion contains the weirder theogony, Mormonism or Scientology?
(Kolob is the star which God is said to reside near or on or…something. The theorem is in book form and looks all official and scientific and so it must be true.)
Hi Josie.
I am a recent former Mormon having come out of the entrenchments of my faith only about 20 months ago. I battled cognitive dissonance fiercely for 7 years before I was able to finally let logic weigh in and settle the matter once and for all that Mormonism is an invention.
I will be honest, re reading this Kolob Theorum set me back on my heels momentarily. Some of what the author wrote are doctrines I used to hold near and dear to my heart. I experienced a mild panic revisiting the assertions in that some of the explanations he came up with were similar to how I used to rationalize that Mormonism indeed was God's true religion, Smith was the restorer of Jesus's gospel that became corrupted150 a.d.
I had to force myself to revisit how the many scriptures the author used came from a Smith invented book supposedly written by Father Abraham himself.
The author is fringe. Many Mormons do not get so wrapped up in these explanations and doctrines. It is not encouraged by the general authorities. Mostly, these types of theorums originate from extremely bright Mormons who become extremely bored with the primary lay person gospel teaching going on week in and week out. There is nothing new ever taught in Mormonism. It is rather boring. Once you hear the same lessons, oh, about 15 times over 20 years, you start to go stir crazy and this document you provided is what can result.
Rather than ditch their Mormon testimony, they choose to delve into uncharted mysticism.
This article you provided is really the tip of the iceberg. Mormons believe that in heaven, men will have countless wives. It goes on from there.
I was a mormon for most of my life.
Mostly, these types of theorums originate from extremely bright Mormons who become extremely bored with the primary lay person gospel teaching going on week in and week out.
yessiree, that's true. I have the yawn marks to prove it.
There is nothing new ever taught in Mormonism.
Oh yes there is. Every time the prophet has a "revelation". :wink:
Thanks for responding.
The Kolob Theorem...which holds that each galaxy's core is the seat of a controlling deity.
Here are some fun quotes for those of you who bore easily or else are horrified by the topic length (as frankly I am):
We can learn by astronomy but better still is to learn from the scriptures which were dictated by the creator himself, who is our Heavenly Father.
ie: Put your brain in the coat check and listen to us—I mean—God!
Most of us think of our earth as an inert lump of rock forever circling the sun. However we assert the earth is alive. It is has a spirit, can talk and can keep God's commandments and will finally be exalted in the Celestial Kingdom.
It keeps God's commandments? What about "Thou shalt not kill?"
The Urim and Thummim was used by Abraham to see through what we theorize as the veil of interstellar dust and into the very heart of the Galaxy. This is the location where the Kolob Theorem places the throne of God with Kolob in the center.
The Urim and Thummim are better than a radio telescope! They show what isn't even there and don't show what is there! (Namely, that our galaxy, like so many others, has a black hole at its center and not a star.)
...when earth time is counted no longer, the earth will depart from its orbit about the sun and return through the terrestrial zone (the millennial period) then to resume its original place in the celestial kingdom.
That would require travel by the earth across many tens of thousands of light years to reach the center of the galaxy, where it would then be sucked disasterously into the black hole already mentioned.
Astronomers have recently found evidence of super massive activities at the center of several external galaxies. These are called black holes.
Aha! The problem is finally acknowledged.
This new information leads us to ask ourselves:
• Could a black hole exist in the heart of every galaxy?
• Could there be a black hole at the center of the Milky Way?
• Could a black hole also be called "Kolob"?
Now the star Kolob is a black hole?
Consider that nearly 150 years ago, long before science had any idea of the structure of the Universe, God's prophet said that there exists "clouds round about in the heavens"...the purpose of these clouds is to keep the planets from being consumed. What profound insight! We stand with awe and respect for Joseph's prophetic powers.
Don't get too excited. These amazing "clouds of dust" contain less particles of matter in them than the finest vacuum that we can possibly create on planet Earth.
In the great revelation on astronomy given to Abraham and again to Joseph Smith, we are informed that light radiates out from Kolob to give power to the sun, moon, and earth thru the medium of Kae-e-vanrash and Kli-flos-is-es…Astronomers have yet to confirm that our sun, for example, is renewed or refueled by such outpourings from the heavenly center.
Damn straight. Our sun, a fairly unremarkable, run-of-the-mill main sequence star, is powered by nuclear fusion.
We suspect that there are unusual stars in the center with profound radiations emanating from them, Eloheim's bright throne, in a band of the spectrum not visible to the eye and not yet well understood by man.
Still awaiting confirmation of that.
The Prophet Joseph Smith taught there are other deities, also. He said there are Lords many and Gods many and that he was not "scared to death of such a doctrine" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.373). These deities surely have creations and dominions comparable to our Heavenly Father's, and thus, there are some remote worlds, stars, and creations that are not of our Father's making.
Mormonism is essentially polytheistic.
When we observe an external galaxy we see it can be divided into three areas, each glowing with a different color of light. The Kolob Theorem identifies the center bulge of every galaxy as the location of a celestial kingdom, with outer rings successively as terrestrial and telestial kingdoms. Outer darkness, a kingdom without glory, must be located outside any of the kingdoms of glory for all of them shine and are lit up. We postulate the Devil and sons of perdition are cast out beyond the galaxy and shielded from it by a veil of dust.
Groovy. Hell is cold, not hot.
All right, that's about halfway through. I think you get the picture.
Here is a Mormon Hymn about Kolob which, according to Joseph Smith while under direct revelation from God, is located near the planet Smith called, again—through revelation no less, "Oliblish":
If You Could Hie to KOLOB
If you could hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye,
And then continue onward with the speed of light to fly**,
D'ye think that you could ever, through all eternity,
Find out the generation where Gods began to be?
Or see the grand beginning, where space did not extend?
Or view the last creation where Gods and matter end?
Methinks the Spirit whispers, "No man has found 'pure space',"
Nor seen the outside curtains, where nothing has a place.
The works of God continue, and worlds and lives abound;
Improvement and progression have one eternal round.
There is no end to matter; there is no end to space;
There is no end to spirit; there is no end to race.
I participated in singing this hymn only a few times in my three decades of Mormon experience. Many but not all Mormons are familiar with it. A lot of Mormons are embarrassed by the Kolobian doctrine. Most dismiss Kolob as a creative accounting of a prophet. They cannot escape that current canonized LDS scripture prints Joseph Smith's revelations mentioning and explaining Kolob.
I don't know if the song will transfer with the following link but if it does, you can hear what it sounds like. (If not, and you are interested, you can cut/paste the url.)
In short, it's a strange song about a strange doctrine that most Mormons wish would just… go… away….
Noggin… whistling the Kolobian tune as he signs off.
I thought that Urim and Thummim (thought and memory) were Wotan's ravens. So that isn't even origional.
Would be nice if Mormonism included a Ragnarok tho….....
[quote author="Noggin"]In short, it's a strange song about a strange doctrine that most Mormons wish would just… go… away….
I can't remember singing that in my ward. Maybe once. The chorister was too pragmatic, possibly? There was far more putting the shoulder to the wheel than hieing off to Kolob.
[quote author="switch"]I thought that Urim and Thummim (thought and memory) were Wotan's ravens.
Wow, I never drew the correlation. Interesting switch, thanks.
Would be nice if Mormonism included a Ragnarok tho….....
Hey! Totally! A little Gotterdammerung never hurt anybody, right? :mrgreen:
-Ragnarok ("Doom of the Gods"), also called Gotterdammerung, means the end of the cosmos in Norse mythology. It will be preceded by Fimbulvetr, the winter of winters.
-The wolf Skoll will finally devour the sun, and his brother Hati will eat the moon, plunging the earth [into] darkness. The stars will vanish from the sky.
-The earth will shudder with earthquakes, and every bond and fetter will burst, freeing the terrible wolf Fenrir. The sea will rear up because Jormungand, the Midgard Serpent, is twisting and writhing in fury as he makes his way toward the land.
-Meanwhile, Heimdall will sound his horn, calling the sons of Odin and the heroes to the battlefield. From all the corners of the world, gods, giants, dwarves, demons and elves will ride towards the huge plain of Vigrid where the last battle will be fought. The fight between Odin and Fenrir will rage for a long time, but finally Fenrir will seize Odin and swallow him.
-After the destruction, a new and idyllic world will arise from the sea and will be filled with abundant supplies. Some of the gods will survive, others will be reborn. Wickedness and misery will no longer exist and gods and men will live happily together.
...on second thought, this sounds a bit like Revelation.
I could handle Ragnarok if they let me be a Valkyrie. :D
Brief background for the non mormon:
Joseph Smith claimed to have translated golden plates that depicted a 1000 year slice of history of Central and North American indians from 400 bc to 350 a.d. Smith claims these indians descended from Israel. He supposedly found the gold plates hidden under a stone a couple miles from his house. An angel told him the location three times. These plates were written in a mysterious language he called "Reformed Egyptian". The method of translating as told by Smith in Church History was by using a Urimm and Thummin that was also buried with the plates. There are a few eye witness accounts that tell of some device purported to be the U & T as two cyrstals set in glass frames worn as eye glasses.
In reality, the way the golden plates were "Translated" was later verified with certainty that Smith put a brown treasure seeking occultic seer stone or peep stone in a hat and covered his face into the hat and dictated the entire book from that position. Much of the time the golden plates were not even in the same room.
(Incidentally, no other human was allowed to see the golden plates… they were told they would die if they looked at them and there was a cloth over something that resembled a stack of metal plates in shape)
Here is what I found out about the Urimm and Thummin as real life scholars reveal:
In Old Testament times, the three main channels of God's revelation were the sages, the priests, and the prophets. The priests had various duties, but their primary function until after the death of King Solomon was that of divining the will of God by the use of ..urim and thummin."
Scholars think that these words refer to objects, perhaps stones, used by the high priest to ascertain the will of God in any important matter affecting the nation. One theory is that the stones were used to cast
Urim and Thummim typically translate as "lights and perfections" or "revelation and truth" - were a divination medium or process used by ancient Hebrews (usually Israelites) in revealing the will of God on a contested point of view or other problem.
According to the teachings of Judaism, a small parchment with God's holy name, the Tetragrammaton, inscribed on it was slipped into an opening under the Urim and Thummim on the high priest's breast plate, which caused the breastplate to "glow" and thereby "transmit messages" from God to the Children of Israel.
Some scholars have suggested "the" Urim and Thummim consists of two crystals; however, the precise nature of the medium is unknown to most secular scholars. According to the Hebrew Bible, stones used for "an" Urim and Thummim were kept in the breastplate of Aaron, the brother of Moses.
More recent scholars have pointed to the plural nature of the words to argue that there wasn't "a" certain device, but rather Urim and Thummim was the process or procedure priests used in the casting of lots and some sort of stones or jewels were the medium. Others have pointed out that the words "Urim and Thummim," in the Hebrew, begin with the first letter (aleph,) and end with the final letter (tav,) of the Hebrew alphabet, that the device contained these and perhaps other letters of the Hebrew alphabet, which were used as lots to determine the response of the oracle.
There is some evidence that Urim and Thummim were/was used as a lot that provided "yes" or "no" answers, depending upon whether the Urim or the Thummim came into play, as manipulated by a Hebrew oracle. There is also evidence that the medium was used as an ordeal to establish a person's guilt or innocence.
Aaron supposedly carried a Urimm and Thummin. Can you imagine being judged guilty of a crime by a old guy wearing this vest of stones? Wouldn't you be like, pissed off?
Here is a pinnacle of Mormon perspective from pro Mormon website:
The existence and use of the Urim and Thummim as an instrument of revelation will continue among exalted beings in eternity. From the inspired writings of the Prophet we learn that angels "reside in the presence of God, on a globe like a sea of glass and fire, where all things for their glory are manifest, past, present, and future, and are continually before the Lord. The place where God resides is a great Urim and Thummim. This earth, in its sanctified and immortal state, will be made like unto crystal and will be a Urim and Thummim to the inhabitants who dwell thereon, whereby all things pertaining to an inferior kingdom, or all kingdoms of a lower order, will be manifest to those who dwell on it; and this earth will be Christ's. Then the white stone mentioned in Revelation 2:17, will become a Urim and Thummim to each individual who receives one, whereby things pertaining to a higher order of kingdoms will be made known." (D. & C. 130:6-11.)
source: http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/prayer/seer_stones_eom.htm
There are masonic tie ins as well but this is getting long and I'll end here.
Kolob… Oliblish… Urim and Thummin… polygamy. I swallowed it all. I served 2 years 24/7 trying to convert others to believe in this. These are the fibers that made up my reality from birth. It was all completely normal to believe this was all real and "god's way".
Feel sorry for me… uh, now kidding!
Wow, Noggin, Thanx for the history.
I read Under the Banner of Heaven, but I think that that deals with more of the more unorthodox Mormon sects than what you would find in SLC.
Still, I find any history of Mormonism interesting. This is the first modern religion we have been able to observe evolving. From "revelation" to cult to martyrdom, finally to expansion throughout the world. Gives you pause when you think about the origions of other faiths: Was the Ark of the covenent real, or was it just something that only the initiated could "see" once a year. Shades of Golden plates.
I had never heard of Urimm and Thummin in Mormonism before. From what I remember of Nordic mythos, Urimm and Thummin (I think it was Hurimm in old norse) were our old friend the all-father's ravens. Since Wotan was a blind god, he'd just sit on his throne, drinking mead I suspect, untill the ravens (thought and memory) would come to him, whisper in his ear and his ego would return as well as all the ravens had seen transpire since their departure. Thus dear old Odin ruled Vahalla. It just sounds really simillar to the smith vision.
Btw, Josie, I think you'd make a fine valkyrie, Just don't go singing Wagner whilst you fly. Bad luck.
Switch—you stole my old sig. But that's OK. You're just a white suburban punk like me.
sorry mud, I'm a newbie. didn't know.
but it still…........................hurts…...
LOL no problem. Welcome noob.
Geez—and people think that Catholics are wierd…..at least all we had to deal with in Catholic school was memorizing the Sacraments, and the Holy Days Of Obligation.


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View from Studio 3: Gyorko ready to break out
Second baseman showed impressive power in rookie season and is poised to improve
He finished his rookie season in 2013 with more home runs that Ian Kinsler, Brandon Phillips and Dan Uggla.
He had more doubles than Chase Utley, Neil Walker and Howie Kendrick.
And he posted a higher slugging percentage than Dustin Pedroia, Ben Zobrist and Jose Altuve.
Meet Jedd Gyorko -- the best offensive second baseman who doesn't get nearly enough attention outside of San Diego. While many casual observers are still trying to figure out how to pronounce his name, the former West Virginia Mountaineers star is preparing for his sophomore season with the Padres. I spoke with Gyorko moments after he walked out of the batting in Peoria, Ariz. As he reflected on how his life has changed in the last 12 months, it was clear that his professionalism and maturity are as impressive as his work ethic.
"It's changed a lot, actually," Gyorko said. "It's been a whirlwind of exciting things. There's obviously been the challenges, but it's been, probably most importantly, it's been a big learning experience for me to get to know the pitchers that I'm facing, and hopefully it's something I can build on going forward."
Over the last few years while coming through San Diego's Minor League system, Gyorko has picked the brains of the best to ever play. Imagine getting hitting advice from Padres legends Tony Gwynn and Dave Winfield? Gyorko soaks in the lessons and advice from the Hall of Famers as well as former Padres Brad Ausmus and Mark Loretta. The common message:
"Go at it every day," Gyorko said. "Every day brings a new world of possibilities into the game, so make sure I'm ready to go every single day and get out there and play hard."
Play hard, practice hard and be ready to drive in runs when the opportunity presents itself. Gyorko says that one area of his offensive game he'd like to improve on is hitting with runners in scoring position. Last year's .184 average in such situations isn't going to cut it.
"The name of the game is scoring more runs than the other team, so to drive in those runs when the opportunity presents itself will be big for me," Gyorko said.
The desire to work hard to improve is one of the things MLB Network analyst and Atlanta Braves senior advisor John Hart likes about Gyorko. Hart says his work ethic and bat will translate to a long productive career. If you're looking for a comparison, look at Uggla, but Hart predicts that Gyorko will hit for a higher average, but perhaps a bit less power. You could also compare Gyorko's production numbers to that of Jason Kipnis, although the Indians' second baseman, a left-handed hitter, is a bit more athletic and able to steal a base when needed.
There's a chance, Hart says, that Gyorko won't remain at second base for the long term. If the Padres don't retain Chase Headley, they could move Gyorko back to his natural position at the hot corner. That's the future. Gyorko is concerned with the present and refining his skills at his current position. He cites his work with Padres coach Glenn Hoffman.
"It helps me tremendously as far as positioning and my footwork around the bag. All those things added up to me having a good year last year," Gyorko said. "It's something that we're gonna keep working on and trying to get better. There's always room for improvement."
There's the work ethic again. No surprise when I asked Gyorko to talk about players he emulates or admires, the first name to pop out is that of a former MVP and two-time World Series champion.
"When I was in college, I enjoyed watching the way Pedroia played," Gyorko said. "I like the grittiness that he has to go out there every single day and give it everything he's got. That's a guy I'd like to model myself after, just the way he plays the game."
High expectations for sure. But Gyorko wouldn't have it any other way.
Matt Yallof is the co-host of The Rundown on MLB Network from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. ET.


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On whether Michigan should use No. 21 like it has used No. 1 and will use No. 2, as jerseys that must be earned: "You should ask Brady about that. I just got inducted to the Hall of Fame. I have no idea why I'm not getting the same treatment. [Editor's Note: he said this tongue-in-cheek].
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by Pete Mazzaccaro
The essayist Chuck Klosterman once noted that when you ask people what they'd like to see in a newspaper, they'll want to see more of and less of all the same things, providing a net feedback of suggestions that weighed together will equal zero.
For every person who wants more sports there's someone who wants less. For everyone who thinks we don't cover Mt. Airy enough, another will say we cover it too much.
I was reminded of this when, while interviewing a source for a story, he lamented that there wasn't enough controversial material in the Local's letter section.
For every person who felt the way he did, I know I could find someone who felt the opposite, that the letters in the Local, when controversial or just plain critical, are detrimental to the well being of the whole neighborhood.
What was further interesting about his observation, though, was his reasoning.
"I used to really like reading that," he said. "Now I guess you don't publish that stuff anymore."
It's a fairly reasonable assumption to make. The Local had weeks when we could have filled three pages with letters. Some controversial, others totally bland.
But those days are gone. And it's not because we refuse to publish letters. We just don't get them.
We definitely have guidelines for letters. We won't print libel. We won't print stuff we know to be false, but we have a liberal letters policy, which I like to differentiate from other papers with this explanation:
Other papers look for compelling reasons to publish letters. We must find a compelling reason not to publish a letter. The Local has always promised readers that they can have a place in print if they so chose. All that is required is to compose a letter and send it to us. Now it's as easy as sending me an email.
Why our correspondence has thinned out is a bit of a mystery tome. While we definitely don't dwell on the inside game of CHCA politics, there are certainly big issues in the Local's pages on a regular basis. From parking to property taxes, we write and editorialize about every local issue we can find.
One might suspect that the energy for responding to the Local has moved to the Web. We certainly get feedback online to our stories, but even that feedback is slim.
Another newspaper professional I talked to who lives in Chestnut Hill continues to be amazed at how quiet Hillers are in print and online.
"Get a drink in their hand at a social gathering and they're never short on opinions, but ask them to put their name behind that opinion in print, and they no longer have an opinion," he said.
To me that might be the phenomenon most responsible for the sharp falloff in reader correspondence. It dates back approximately to the same time we moved the Local to a daily, online publishing platform that has a much wider reach. Our readers, aware that their opinions and comments will be stored on remote servers in perpetuity for the world to call up with a simple Google search, are opting to zip their lips and leave that angry email as a draft in their outbox. It's one thing to vent, but another to attach an opinion to your online identity.
Maybe I'm wrong, and people just aren't interested in writing in. Maybe we don't have the stories that interest them (though my weekly review of our online analytics tells me our stories are ever more popular with readers).
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