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Senators rally past Canucks in Heritage Classicby Adam Kimelman
VANCOUVER -- Parri Ceci wanted his son to follow in his footsteps and play in the Canadian Football League. Now a defenseman for the Ottawa Senators, Cody Ceci got to star on a CFL field Sunday but not in the way his father had envisioned.
Ceci's second-period goal was the difference in Ottawa's 4-2 victory against the Vancouver Canucks at the 2014 Tim Hortons NHL Heritage Classic at BC Place.
"I played football for a couple years," Ceci said. "He (his father) probably would have liked to see me play football, so this was as good as it would get."
Clarke MacArthur had a goal and an assist, and Erik Karlsson and Colin Greening also had goals for the Senators. Craig Anderson made 29 saves to earn his 20th win.
Jason Garrison and Zack Kassian scored for the Canucks, and rookie goaltender Eddie Lack made 24 saves as the surprise starter ahead of veteran Roberto Luongo.
"I have to make decisions each and every time right now, with such short strokes, on what's going to give us the best chance to win," Canucks coach John Tortorella said. "Eddie was playing lights out in the games he's played. He has been very good all year long. He deserved to play this game."
In addition to the two points lost, the Canucks also played most of the final two periods without top-line forward Daniel Sedin. Sedin was carrying the puck behind the Vancouver net early in the second period when he was hit into the boards by Ottawa defenseman Marc Methot. Sedin remained down on the ice for several moments, but was able to skate off slowly on his own. He remained on the bench for a bit, but then left for the locker room, with two Canucks employees helping him make the long walk from the ice to the locker room.
The Canucks had no update on Sedin's condition after the game. The Canucks next play Tuesday at the Phoenix Coyotes.
The victory moved the Senators within three points of the Detroit Red Wings for the final wild-card spot in the Eastern Conference with 21 regular-season games remaining.
"We have to keep winning," Senators coach Paul MacLean said. "If you want to get in, you have to win. We have to get ready for the next game. … We have to turn around [Monday] and go to Edmonton and get ready to play another difficult opponent. We go day-by-day, game-by-game. We still think we're going to like where we are after 82 games."
Aiding the effort Sunday was Ceci, the 15th pick of the 2012 NHL Draft playing in his first professional season. A highly regarded athlete, Ceci didn't fully focus on hockey until he joined the Ottawa 67s of the Ontario Hockey League when he was 16 years old.
Hockey certainly has looked to be a better choice than football. The goal Sunday was Ceci's second in the NHL, and both have been game-winners. In addition, his two goals in 24 games with the Binghamton Senators of the American Hockey League this season have come in overtime.
"I guess that's all I'm good for these days," Ceci said of his game-winners. "I didn't know if it was going to hold until end of the day, and it did. It's a special feeling. I'm not complaining. It's just been a funny year for me that way. They've all been pretty special goals."
"He scored a couple of big ones in Binghamton and scored a big one in overtime against St. Louis and then another big one [Sunday]," Senators captain Jason Spezza said. "He's got a flair for the dramatic. That's a good quality for a young player."
Spezza was a supporting player in the winning drama Sunday. He carried the puck into the Vancouver zone midway through the second period, and Ceci joined the play to give the Senators a 3-on-2 advantage. Spezza slid the puck to his right to Ceci, who stepped around Vancouver defenseman Dan Hamhuis and fired a wrist shot that beat Lack at 10:11 of the period.
"I just jumped up," Ceci said. "Spezza saw me coming down the wing. I had a step on one of the defensemen and I ended up shooting it far side, and it ended up going through."
The Canucks pushed for the equalizer, outshooting the Senators 11-6 in the third period, but Vancouver, which entered the game 27th in the League at 2.34 goals per game and missing one of its top scorers, was unable to score the tying goal.
"I still think we're trying to find our way offensively to make the next big play," Tortorella said. "With Danny going out, that hurt me a little bit as far as some of the line combinations. … First 10 minutes of the first period was good, but I thought our third period was our best period of the game. We just don't convert; our power play doesn't work. Couldn't crawl back into it."
It was an exciting finish to the final game played outside a traditional NHL arena this season.
"We thank the Canucks and Senators for contributing to the terrific atmosphere at BC Place [Sunday] and for providing such an entertaining conclusion to two historic months for the National Hockey League," Commissioner Gary Bettman said. "While the weather outside prevented us from opening the roof at this outstanding stadium, the energy indoors from the more than 54,000 fans made for a memorable afternoon.
"Through the 2014 Bridgestone NHL Winter Classic, the 2014 Coors Light NHL Stadium Series, the 2014 Olympic Winter Games in Sochi and the 2014 Tim Hortons NHL Heritage Classic, our teams and our players displayed the very best qualities of our sport to over 375,000 fans in-person and an international viewing audience of millions more. We thank our fans, our clubs and our players for this 'season like no other,' and we look forward to an exciting run to the Stanley Cup Playoffs."
The retractable roof remained closed at BC Place due to the rain and snow falling outside, but it did little to diminish the unique atmosphere of playing in an ice rink built on the home field of the British Columbia Lions of the CFL.
"It was definitely different," Ceci said. "We all enjoyed it. It reminded us of the old days playing out on ponds."
"It was pretty cool," Canucks forward Alexandre Burrows said. "First time for me to play in front of that many people, and the crowd seemed to be into it. You will remember that one for a long time."
The big crowd of mostly Canucks fans was happy early as Vancouver scored twice in the first 11:27 of the game; it marked the first time they scored more than one goal in a period in 10 games, dating to the first period of their game Jan. 26 against the Phoenix Coyotes.
Garrison opened the scoring 4:54 into the game with his fifth goal of the season. Greening was called for high sticking at 3:17, and the Canucks took full advantage when Garrison's shot from the point went off Senators forward Kyle Turris' stick out high and went under the crossbar.
The power-play goal was the Canucks' first in four games and snapped an 0-for-8 streak.
Kassian's 11th of the season made it 2-0 at 11:27. Karlsson had the puck deep in the right side of the Ottawa zone, but turned it over to Kassian due to pressure from Vancouver's Brad Richardson. The Canucks forward sent a low shot on net that eluded Anderson.
The Senators scored twice in a span of 1:47 later in the first to tie the game, with MacArthur having a hand in both goals.
Eric Gryba ended up with the puck in the Vancouver end. His shot was blocked, but the puck bounced to Erik Condra in the middle of the zone. Condra caught the shot on the heel of his stick, sending a low, soft shot on net that MacArthur redirected off the post and past Lack at 15:15.
Moments later, during an Ottawa power play, the Senators tied the game. MacArthur won a puck battle along the wall on the left side of the Vancouver zone and pushed the puck to Karlsson at the point. Karlsson slid left to right across the top of the Canucks zone until he found a seam on the right side. He fired a shot along the ice to the far side that went through a Turris screen and past Lack's right foot at 17:03. The goal was Karlsson's 16th, tops among NHL defensemen.
After Ceci put the Senators ahead in the second, Greening finished the game with an empty-net goal at 18:27 of the third.
The Canucks will look to regroup and stay in the hunt for a playoff spot. They remain tied with the Dallas Stars and Winnipeg Jets with 66 points, but the Stars hold the final wild-card spot in the Western Conference by virtue of having played two fewer games.
"That's a game we should have won," Canucks captain Henrik Sedin said. "If you have a two-goal lead in this league, we know how hard it is to come back from those deficits."
The Senators left Vancouver hoping the win will propel them toward a spot in the postseason. The Heritage Classic was the first of a four-game trip against the three Western Canada teams and the Winnipeg Jets.
"We hope it launches our march," Spezza said. "… It's hard to come out here to Western Canada and play in all these rinks and take a lot of points. It's a necessity for us though. We hope this is a big jumping-off point for us."


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Azrael #1
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Written by Fabian Nicieza
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Following the events of "The Eighth Deadly Sin" in BATMAN ANNUAL #27 and DETECTIVE COMICS ANNUAL #11, the new monthly series starring Death's Dark Knight begins! Michael Lane is a man in search of redemption, but does serving the Order of Purity as God's Angel of Justice bring him closer to achieving his goal – or simply send him further down a road paved with good intentions? When a hired killer comes to Gotham City seeking revenge for crimes committed decades in the past, Azrael faces an impossible conflict: What if God's justice forces the hero to claim one of God's servants? From writer Fabian Nicieza (SUPERMAN, TRINITY) and artist Ramon Bachs (RED ROBIN)!
Batman | 32pg. | Color | $2.99 US
Dark Avengers: Ares #1
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Ares – the God of War! His relentless brutality and his bloodthirsty drive to attain victory at any cost earned him only scorn from his fellow gods in the Greek pantheon, and exile from Olympus. After thousands of years living as a man and fighting in man's bloody, petty conflicts, Ares joined the ranks of Earth's mightiest heroes – the Avengers. Now Norman Osborn – the new head of the corrupted Dark Avengers and director of the paramilitary intelligence agency H.A.M.M.E.R. – wants the finest fighting force the God of War can provide. He charges Ares with hand-picking an elite squad of soldiers and beating them into the hardest, sharpest warriors ever to wield an M-60 in each hand. And that's exactly what Ares will need, when the goddess Hera provides him with a fighting chance to regain his standing in the pantheon's eyes. And Ares is taking his men with him into the battle of their lives… Rated T …$3.99
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by Punchy » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:49 amUnwritten drops 1.12 points between #1 and #6! Oh dear!
I'm guessing this week will be brutal, this just looks so very mediocre.
by thefourthman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:04 amThis book was a fucking mess. I have to reread again before I review, probably tonight. Hope to link before I go away this weekend.
by Garofani Spruzzo » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:05 am
Ok, now you've got me excited to read it.
by MrBlack » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:05 amThe Azrael mini that Nicieza wrote was surprisingly good. I think this will be a decent read at worst, and I'm cautiously optimistic that it might actually be a little better than good.
by thefourthman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:10 am
I liked the mini, that was during Battle for the Cowl, right. Yeah, this comic not so much. First of all, it isn't even a number one. It clearly rests on the two annuals that preceded it and then (much like last week's pick) it is one of those books where the writer throws so much shit onto the page that it is genuinely difficult to figure out what the fuck is going on.
Then there is the art. Yech!
I can tell you right now. This is hands down the worst comic for the group that I have read since I have been in the group.
by ****** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:15 am
Worse than Titans #1 or Checkmate #26? That's a bold statement.
by thefourthman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:24 am
I didn't mind Titans as much, it wasn't good but it wasn't awful. This is on the same level as checkmate.
by ****** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:25 am
You gave Titans a 2.
by thefourthman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:27 am
still not as bad as this. it was entertaining enough to keep me reading the book for three or four more issues and was like Rulk, entertaining but stupid. This is just fucking bad and not at all entertaining.
by Garofani Spruzzo » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:30 amSo how much are we assumed to know from the previous two issues?
by thefourthman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:31 am
the character's identity and the entire story line. You know not much.
by thefourthman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:34 am
actually, it's not quite that bad, but it keeps refering to what happened in the annuals but never says what happened.
by Punchy » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:00 amIt's a bad sign when last week's thread is higher up on the board.
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I wonder what caused this minor variance.
While doing a research on the Greek Majority text (known as the Byzantine text), I realized that the definite article preceding the word "Basileos" in Luke 1:5 was dropped/omitted in the Alexandrian text. Ἐγένετο ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις Ἡρῴδου τοῦ βασιλέως τῆς Ἰουδαίας ἱερεύς τις ὀνόματι Ζαχαρίας ἐξ ἐφημερίας Ἀβιά, καὶ γυνὴ αὐτῷ ἐκ τῶν θυγατέρων Ἀαρών, καὶ τὸ ὄνομα αὐτῆς Ἐλισάβετ. Ἐγένετο ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις Ἡρῴδου βασιλέως τῆς Ἰουδαίας ἱερεύς τις ὀνόματι Ζαχαρίας ἐξ ἐφημερίας Ἀβιά, καὶ γυνὴ αὐτῷ ἐκ τῶν θυγατέρων Ἀαρών, καὶ τὸ ὄνομα αὐτῆς Ἐλισάβετ. People who are not familiar with the Greek alphabet can see the difference in Latin letters on this website: http://www.greeknewtestament.com/B42C001.htm I wonder what caused this minor variance. Why does the definite article not occur in the Alexandrian text? Would its omission cause a difference in the meaning of the verse or constitute a grammatical mistake? Why is it preserved in the Byzantine majority text? Is the reason related to stylistics? Thanks from now for your answers and help.Peace,Theophilos
I'm curious why you bring up that error of all the scriptural variations? I'm by no means up on my Koine, but it seems to me the only difference between the two lines is one has better grammar, on par with saying "I bought a dog" vs. "I bought dog".
And FWIW, these are our Fathers too, you know.
One of the "miracles" of the Quran requires misspelling the name of the city of Mecca. This is a "wrong" spelling and an "imperfection" in a supposedly "perfect" book. They need the error to keep the miracle, and they would lose the miracle if they were to correct the error.
To quote Fr Hopko, "we have a Bible, not a Quran". Trying to use the Bible as a Quran (whether on purpose or not) has lead some Protestant groups to strictly hold Bible inerrancy (because God's Word can't be wrong) to the point of inventing nonsense heretical doctrines for the purpose of supporting their claims. I've seen this range everywhere from the pre-existence of the soul to claims that Christ did not receive His Flesh and human nature from His Mother.
The Quran is nothing more than a demonic imitation of what is God-inspired. There just might be some "miracles" in the Quran, but demons can do all kinds of miracles in order to give the appearance of what is holy. I don't base my relation to God based on how well it squares with human scientific understanding, whether it be how bones or formed in a fetus, the exact shape of the earth, or a scientific explanation of "how" God created all that exists and brought into being. Faith is to bring us close to God, not teach us science.
Sorry for the rant, I hope you find a way to make whatever he claims to be "important" to be not so important when it comes to what really matters.
I was not aware of this. What kind of a spelling mistake is it? Mecca written as Becca? Is this what you mean?
I agree with most of the things you stated here. However, there is not even a demonic miracle in the Qur'an.
That is the one I was referring to.
I was referring to the "miracle" of the number thing that is used as "proof" of divine authorship. Whether or not it is a real miracle doesn't really matter because even if it is, that doesn't mean it's from God. Just a thought.
Quote from: Kasatkin fan on September 07, 2011, 07:23:26 PMI'm curious why you bring up that error of all the scriptural variations? I'm by no means up on my Koine, but it seems to me the only difference between the two lines is one has better grammar, on par with saying "I bought a dog" vs. "I bought dog".Well, it is actually a long story, but I shall try to summarize it. I am an author contributing to a website defending Christian faith against Islam. I wanted to write a rebuttal to an Islamic academician who dedicated a website to the so-called numerical/mathematical miracles of the Qur'an. In order to show him how easy it was to make use of numerical coincidences and present them as miracles, I tried to invent similar "miracles" from the Gospels. While checking the Greek New Testament used by goarch.org, I discovered interesting numerical connections related to the number of words in the Gospel of Luke. However, the omission of the definite article in Luke 1:5 destroys my numerical "miracle". I definitely need that article so as to make Zechariah the 55th word in that chapter.
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by Mike Masnick
Mon, Jun 18th 2012 8:29pm
Filed Under:
genius bar, perminder tung, time capsule
People will file lawsuits over almost anything these days. Perminder Tung has apparently sued Apple because his Time Capsule device broke and no one at the Genius Bar could fix it. I can certainly understand the frustration here, but it's difficult to see how there's any sort of legit claim. Technology fails all the time. There's nothing that promised this device would work forever. Claiming, as Tung does, that the failure of Time Capsule represents "a fundamental and total breach of contract," seems like a huge stretch. Man. If I could have legitimately sued every time a technology -- especially a backup storage system -- failed without being repairable, I'd have a hell of a lot more money. But we don't do that, because we know that there is no implicit promise when you buy technology that it works forever.
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Zauber Paracelsus (profile), 18 Jun 2012 @ 8:41pm"If I could have legitimately sued every time a technology -- especially a backup storage system -- failed without being repairable, I'd have a hell of a lot more money."
I know how that feels. I've had five SATA devices fail over the years: four hard drives and one DVD burner. The DVD burner bricked in unison with a hard drive. I'm placing the blame on the PSU in my computer, which failed after three years of usage (almost to the day I first turned on the computer).
Anonymous Coward of Esteemed Trolling (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:34am
Re:Moral of that story is always get a good psu.
One that fails without taking everything with it.
A bit like those cheap "silent" psu's that are noisier than an aeroplane taking off, Apple's "Time capsule" is marketed as bullshit it aint.
This guy should have to learn the hard way.
Everyone knows Apple marketing is utter lies and propaganda.
Hooter McBus (profile), 18 Jun 2012 @ 8:50pm
One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeOne of the few times I disagree with you, Mike.
The selling point of these devices is that:
1. They will last for a long time (hence the name, Time Capsule); and
2. That they are a secure backup for when you encounter problems on your Mac.
You cannot then deny any responsibility with an argument that "all technology fails". That may be true, but when you sell an item based on a promise, you cannot resort to that defence.
This is in contrast to, say, an iPhone, which may fail at some point, but is not sold on the premise that it will have longevity.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 9:51pm
Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeThey will last for a long time (hence the name, Time Capsule);
That is not the genesis of the name at all.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 11:47pm
Re: Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeA time capsule is a device in which are stored items (or sometimes information), for long periods of times (usually several generations, so about 100 years at least).
The purpose of course is that future generations will one day find these preserved relics of ancient times. And that requires the time capsule to be solid and able to protect it's contents for a long time.
Apple's device is indeed aptly name considering it's purpose (but one can question whether the device lives up to it's name).
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 3:44am
Re: Re: Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeThat is the definition of an ordinary time capsule, maybe, but it definitely does not guarantee the same for technology.
Just a list of devices I can no longer connect to my current PC:
ISA/EISA cards
PCI cards
25 pin parallel port devices
9 pin serial port devices
parallel ATA drives
PS/2 mouse or keyboard
15 pin Dsub video cables
coax network cables
I bet some of these can still be made to work, but my point is that the chances are that USB and Firewire in it's current form just don't exist anymore in 20 years from now, let alone 100 years. By then you have a brick which in theory *could* work, but you have no means to access the contents. And that's just the connectors. Operating Systems of that time probably won't be backwards compatible with current file system format.
I think this guy only has a chance at this if the contract with Apple says they guarantee they can retrieve the data, and that this is no longer possible. Which I doubt, data retrieval companies can retrieve data from drives that have been overwritten 3 times and have been in a fire, submerged in water, and what not. Even if all of that applies.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 10:39pm
Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeIt obviously lasted long enough for the warranty to expire. That means a minimum of 1 year, which in apple tech terms is a long time.
Donnicton, 18 Jun 2012 @ 10:49pm
Re: Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeActually, in Apple tech terms it's "Why hadn't you trashed it and bought our newer model six months ago?"
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:01am
Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeIt sounds like you're reading far too much into a brand name for what is essentially an external hard drive. Do you also complain that Windows tablets don't last as long as their stone counterparts, or is your derision reserved for Apple products?
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 3:18am
Re: Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeHe should probably stay away from Apple products. He might try to eat them.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 3:08am
Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, Mike"1. They will last for a long time (hence the name, Time Capsule);"
Right. That's why I sued HTC when my phone failed to produce any sort of "Magic". I also sued Ford, because when I went in to buy a horse, I came out the door with a car. What the hell? What is wrong with these people!?
Hooter McBus (profile), 20 Jun 2012 @ 12:47am
Re: Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeLittle bit different.
There is clearly a connection between the name and the product purpose, as opposed to a brand name or a model (such as your example of Magic and car names).
Not saying this is the be all and end all, but is a relevant consideration (misleading and deceptive conduct?)
My point is, prima facie, it appears that Apple sold a product on the basis that it would last...and it didn't.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 4:11am
Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, MikeFirst, understand, I am no Apple lover, but...
Let me get this straight. Because the name of the backup device is "Time Capsule" it should last a long time? You know the device it backs up is an Apple, does that mean I should be able to eat it (and it should contain, roughly, the nutritional values of an "Apple"? Using your logic that should be true.
How about my Dodge RAM Truck. By it's name I should be able to "RAM" 2500 times, and come away with both the vehicle and me unscathed. No?
What's in a name? Nothing! It is, and has for a very long time been, nothing more than a marketing tool. I could list hundreds probably thousands of products that do not live up to their name.
In point 12 the complaint claims: "The defect with the Time Capsule, which invariably destroyed the stored data..." I would simply contend that the data was not destroyed, it is simply not retrievable using normal methods. In fact the data may be forever locked within the Time Capsule. Thus the Time Capsule did do it's job as per it's name.
The "promise" made by Apple is contained in the warranty, a copy of which was provided to the end user at purchase and in the EULA which I am willing to bet the end user agreed to while setting up said device.
Caveat emptor!
The truth is that if he really wants the data back there are several data recovery businesses that can retrieve most data from nearly any drive that is not physically destroyed or wiped via DOD methods. The truth is that if his data was valued at $25k he shouldn't be depending on any single device, especially a consumer grade device, to store the data forever.
Some people simply should not be allowed to use technology. If they can't be bothered with understanding, even at a basic level what it does and how it works then perhaps they should not purchase or use it.
John Fenderson (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 8:38am
Re: One of the few times I disagree with you, Mike
You cannot then deny any responsibility with an argument that "all technology fails". That may be true, but when you sell an item based on a promise, you cannot resort to that defence.
Ad copy and names mean literally nothing. They're certainly not a promise. The promise is in the warranty (which probably says that there is no promise of fitness for any particular use.)
aerilus, 18 Jun 2012 @ 9:05pmwhen you build idiot proof technology you have to deal with idiots
:Lobo Santo (profile), 18 Jun 2012 @ 9:50pm
Re: Right!...and no matter how idiot proof you make something, there will always be a better idiot who can still break it.
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:03am
Re: Re: Right!"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
samoanbiscuit (profile), 18 Jun 2012 @ 9:27pm
I want to sue Apple too!I also purchased a Time Machine device from Apple, yet was bitterly disappointed that my plan to quickly and cheaply find myself among Morlocks and Eloi did not pan out! How was I to know that only digital files would be sent back and forth through time? Now if only I could save up money for a Wacom digitizer.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 9:49pmHe should go back in time and stop himself from purchasing the time capsule.
That One Guy (profile), 18 Jun 2012 @ 10:08pm
Wait wait waitHe sued Apple when one of their products broke and didn't deliver as promised...
Drhead, 18 Jun 2012 @ 10:33pmThis guy needs to learn that it takes two copies to make a backup. If the hard drive containing the only copy of something fails it's your own damn fault, and not an excuse to sue Apple for enough money for 100 replacements.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 11:49pm
Re:Perhaps Apple could learn that same lesson and sell their Time Capsule in packs of 2, then?
RyanNerd (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:04am
Re:Right on!! This is what I want to know. How is this a $25,000 claim? Based on Apple's stock price? I am not a fan of Apple at all but these types of excessive gold digging law suits should be thrown out of court and the plaintiff fined for his stupidity.
Mike M (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 6:28am
Re:This guy needs to learn that it takes two copies to make a backup.
This, I worked for a company that made backup devices running Windows Home Server. EVERY loss of data call included "But that was my only copy!" to which we'd inevitably answer, "Then it wasn't a backup".
David, 18 Jun 2012 @ 10:38pmNo wonder Mr. Tung sued: he's a lawyer. I wonder, though, what his contract with Apple says about something like this.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 11:07pmROFL This is just about as bad as a 400lb lady trying to sue the makers of sex swings when they fail.
To be fair they do come with a warning on the side.
"No elephants allowed."
Same goes for the time capsules.
"Device might fail if inserted rectally."
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 6:10am
Re:They make sex swings?...I gotta get out more.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2012 @ 11:43pmAnyone here remember the light-bulb that has remained lit for 100 years and still works today? That's because at the time, light-bulbs and other pieces of technology were made with quality in mind.
Today, most if not all electronics companies make items of poor quality and short durability so that they break quickly and people are forced to buy new ones.
Light-bulbs don't last 100 years. Some printers are purposefully made so that some parts will fail after a certain number of uses.
Most of the time, manufacturers don't try to make their products last. Sometimes, they even lower the life of their products on purpose.
A lot of stores today will sell you televisions with only a 3-6 month warranty. If you want to extend the warranty, you have to pay extra. Why? Don't these stores trust that the stuff they sell you will last more than 6 months? They're basically telling you "We can't promise it will still work after a few months"! Why do we accept this as normal when we should be telling these stores "Well if you don't think your TV can last longer I won't buy it"?
Maybe we do need some lawsuits over failing electronics. Those devices aren't cheap (they're affordable perhaps, but not cheap). They can also be very important - back up storage, cellphones, laptops with our work on them... we can't afford to have them fail or spend more than a few days in the repair shop.
Yes, technology fails sometimes, I can accept that. The question is, why does it fail? And if the answer is "because the manufacturer doesn't care about making a durably product" then that's wrong.
Not only does this make us shell out more money to replace broken devices, but it also hurts the economy by wasting resources. The natural resources and the time spent making a replacement iPad could be used elsewhere. If only that first iPad didn't break and didn't need to be replaced, right?
Devices have to last for a reasonable amount of time; "reasonable" should be defined with regards to the importance of the device (storage and work devices should definitely be built with durability in mind), the cost of the device (few people can and should spend $1000 on a new TV every 6 months), and the use the device is designed for (some devices are designed for heavy tasks that will damage them faster, such devices should therefore be allowed to have shorter warranties).
We NEED manufacturers to focus on durability. And if the only way to do this is to sue, then why not? I know devices will fail, but did Apple try very hard to make a device that lasted a long time? Durability should definitely have been one of their concerns when they developed the product, so perhaps a lawsuit is warranted here.
We have minimum standards for safety, so why not minimum standards for durability?
Azrael, 19 Jun 2012 @ 1:06am
Re:The minimum legal warranty period for a new product from US is one year - 2 years in EU. If it's less then that product isn't new and you get what you pay for.
Almost Anonymous (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 7:31am
Re: Re:Errr... I have to ask for a citation on that one. I've never heard of a law that regulates warranty periods on new products. I suspect that a manufacturer could offer absolutely no warranty if they wanted to.
Robbie, 19 Jun 2012 @ 11:37am
Re: Re:Don't know about the US, but in the UK (which is in the EU...), there is no requirement for a manufacturer to provide a warranty. However, most consumers expect a minimum of 12 months. And I can assure you that most products in the UK come with 12 month warranty, not 2 years.
But in the UK all buyers of products are covered under the Sale of Goods Act, so while a manufacturer warranty makes it a lot easier to claim when there's a problem, it doesn't trump the Sale of Goods Act rights.
JackHerer (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:02am
Re:I know that it is just an example to make your point but it is a bad example.
The now 110 year light bulb (http://www.centennialbulb.org/) has not lasted so long because it is of higher quality, if anything it has lasted so long because it is a bit crap. The filaments are extremely thick so have not burned out and it still works, the downside of this is it is extremely dull and probably uses a great deal electricity to supply it's meagre dull glow. I also suspect that the cost of the thing at the time it was made compares pretty poorly with the cost of 100 years worth of modern lightbulbs at today's prices.
Also technology moves on at an ever increasing pace, whilst perhaps todays televisions do not last as long as those made 40 years ago, but then today they do not need to. These days with TVs and most technological devices they are replaced with an new, better, more advanced equivalent after en increasingly shorter timer that products simply do not need to last as long. Very few people these days would pay what it cost to build a TV that lasted for 15-20 years because they they expect to have replaced it with a bigger/better/higher definition model long before that 15-20 years is up.
The Groove Tiger (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:33pm
Re:"Today, most if not all electronics companies make items of poor quality and short durability so that they break quickly and people are forced to buy new ones."
Really? When was the last time you had to change the burned out vacuum tubes of your home computer?
Andrew F (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:12am
Apple Store EmployeesSounds like the complaint is based on a conversation with an Apple Store employee:
"It's crucial that this if this backup fails, I can always recover my data."
"Yes sir, it does that."
"OK, I'm just asking because I don't know a thing about technology and am totally relying on you to tell me how this works."
"Of course. I'm a genius. I guarantee your data will be recoverable."
Unlikely the conversation actually went like that, but if it did, man, that Apple employee's probably out of a job.
Rekrul, 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:15amThis story is obviously a lie! Everyone knows that Apple produces perfection!
The eejit (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:19amThis just in: Apple don't liek you burying their shit in open gardens, break time capsule!
Re:Yep, it's walled gardens only from here on in...
Keroberos (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 1:08amThis seems like a case of a clueless end user not understanding what a backup is. Having a single copy of anything is not a backup, regardless of what it's stored on. Also I'm quite sure that Apple puts in the "No guarantee as to fitness to purpose" and the "No responsibility for damage from events beyond our reasonable control" clauses in their EULA like all other software/hardware manufactures do. Hardware breaks--most of us understand this, this is why we buy backup devices--to lessen the risk by having more than one copy of important files. No company (including Apple) should be held responsible for random unforeseen hardware/software failures--that's the end user's job.
ChrisB (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 11:28am
Re:> Also I'm quite sure that Apple puts in the "No guarantee as to fitness to purpose"
All items sold in North America have an Implied Warranty of Merchantability, which means the thing does what you'd expect it to. So yes, a backup drive should work like a backup drive.
What I wonder...What I wonder is why Apple doesn't make their Time Machine devices as RAID-0 with two mirror hard drives. That would the easiest way to ensure the backups are almost always available so you almost never lose historical data, even if one drive fails. That's what I have in NAS, is two 1TB identical drives. On the other hand that would increase the size and cost of the device.
Jason4207, 19 Jun 2012 @ 5:16am
Re: What I wonder...I think you mean RAID-1. I hope your NAS drives are not in RAID-0. If 1 drive fails your whole array is kaput.
Best to have a local copy and a copy at a remote site (cloud). Any kind of RAID is not a good backup strategy. RAID is for up-time, not backup.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 11:20am
Re: Re: What I wonder...Actually, Raid-1 is a great on-site backup strategy. Since it mirrors data onto two drive, it gives you redundancy. Which is what backup is, redundancy. The odds of two drives failing at the same time is low. The controller failing is an issue, of course, but thats why its best for onsite backup. It is useful for uptime, yes, but many companies use it for backup. A strategy I've seen employed is having 4 NAS boxes with raid 5 made of 4 1TB drives, rotated weekly. The NAS being rotated out is then taken offsite.
Raid is as good for uptime, as you say, as it is for backup, when handled appropriately. (Uptime is ensured by the redundancy, which is the same as having a backup onsite)
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 12:19pm
Re: Re: Re: What I wonder..."Actually, Raid-1 is a great on-site backup strategy."
Um... No, Raid-1 is NOT a great backup strategy. Raid at any level is not a backup strategy at all. It can however be a tool used in a good backup strategy, but that is totally different.
RAID-1 Increases throughput more or less linearly by keeping multiple copies of data on multiple drives. It is not, nor was it ever, designed to be a backup solution.
A backup has at least two purposes. The primary purpose is to recover data after its loss, be it by data deletion or corruption. The secondary purpose of backups is to recover data from an earlier time.
RAID-1 fulfills neither of the goals of a Backup. If I delete a file from a RAID-1 array it is deleted from both drives i.e THERE IS NO BACKUP! If I want to recover last weeks version of a Database, I can't do that from a RAID-1 Drive unless there is a BACKUP stored on the drive.
Anyone who works in IT should know that RAIDxxx != Backup.
Robbie, 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:34am
Sale of Goods ActIf his country's Sale of Goods Act is anything like the UK's, he's able to expect his product to last up to 6 years, regardless of manufacturers warranty. So while it may not last 'forever', the consumer can certainly expect it to last longer than 1 year. But it seems Apple did actually offer a full refund, and he refused it.
As for suing over the additional losses, I'd assume the product comes with a 50 page disclaimer covering them for that kind of thing. And of course, most people should be aware to keep additional, secondary backups.
I don't see any mention of him trying to recover the data - he's just taken the Apple' guy's word that the data is lost. If he's so upset about the loss of data, why hasn't he sent the drive in to a data recovery company?
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 3:16am
Re: Sale of Goods Act"If his country's Sale of Goods Act is anything like the UK's, he's able to expect his product to last up to 6 years, regardless of manufacturers warranty."
Do you have a citation for that? As far as I understand it, 6 years is the length of time you're allowed to put in a court claim, not necessarily the length of time you can expect a product to last for. Lots of things fail well before that time, under perfectly normal usage conditons.
Even so, it's a shaky bunch of claims. For starters, the described loss of functionality could be due to physical damage, a power surge, or something else outside of Apple's control. He seems to be highlighting the fact that similar models had known defects, but nothing suggests this model was one of them (unless that's part of the mysterious proof he's withheld from the initial claim). He claims loss of data, but given that the devices connected to the device are not claimed, that means he was using it as the sole source for that data - something I'm sure they advise against in the manual. The losses of the data from the iPhone sounds fishy (it would usually be backed up on one of his computers, which would then back up on the capsule - what happened to the data in his iTunes install?). On top of that, Apple did offer him a discounted replacement, which he refused even though his product was 2 years outside of warranty, yet he's gone out and purchased extra equipment for which he's now trying to get refund - should Apple really be liable for the cost of replacing equipment after he refused their own offer to replace it?
Unless he can prove that Apple had advertised the product as a permanent, failproof device or that the model was one with a known defect, I don't see where he stands. Either he had totally unrealistic expectations of a hard drive-based device or he's just trying to get free money.
Robbie, 19 Jun 2012 @ 4:24am
Re: Re: Sale of Goods Act"Do you have a citation for that? As far as I understand it, 6 years is the length of time you're allowed to put in a court claim, not necessarily the length of time you can expect a product to last for."
A s a consumer, you have 'up to' 6 years to make a claim against the retailer. It has nothing to do with when you are allowed to file a court claim - it's about your legal right to an 'expectation' of product life. This will of course vary depending on the product in question, which is why these cases often go to court - retailer and consumer cannot agree on a reasonable product lifespan. But in theory the Sale of Goods Act exists so consumers shouldn't have to go to court in the first place.
Should a product like a Time Capsule last longer than 1 year? IMO, yes, most definitely. But that point is moot, because Apple did actually offer to refund the guy.
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 5:04am
Re: Re: Re: Sale of Goods ActOK, so first we're talking about retailer vs. manufacturer (e.g. more about how it was sold, rather than what it actually does). In fact, one section of the link you provided (which is advice for businesses, not consumers) states: "This does not mean that everything you sell has to last six years from the date of purchase!". It also says "A customer cannot hold you responsible for fair wear and tear".
In other words, it's really down to expectations and 3 years isn't necessarily an excessively short lifespan for a hard drive-based piece of equipment, depending on how it's used and treated. Sure, many devices last longer and you'd normally hope they would, but the nature of the device means that moving parts may fail and data could be compromised if they do. The data's even probably still retrievable, but not for free.
"Should a product like a Time Capsule last longer than 1 year? IMO, yes, most definitely. But that point is moot, because Apple did actually offer to refund the guy."
Indeed. The customer would have a reasonable expectation that such a device would last longer than one year, which it did. That's of course where the warranty kicks in. The device lasted 3 times longer than the warranty, and he refused a perfectly reasonable offer of a replacement because the lack of warranty meant he had to pay. Apple shouldn't be liable for that, unless it can be proven that they were aware of some inherent flaw in the design of the model in question.
Robbie, 19 Jun 2012 @ 7:20am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sale of Goods Act"OK, so first we're talking about retailer vs. manufacturer (e.g. more about how it was sold, rather than what it actually does)."
No, in the UK when a consumer buys goods, their contract of sale is with the retailer, not the manufacturer. So if you wish to sue over a product, the Sale of Goods Act expects the consumer to sue the retailer.
The Sale of Goods Act (UK) is a contract between buyer and seller, not buyer and manufacturer. However, in the current example, the guy bought it from the Apple Store, so retailer and manufacturer are one and the same.
As for it being targeted to businesses - it's a guide for businesses selling to consumers, so it's still the same Sale of Goods Act (which in this example, is generally the same laws for B2B purchases as well).
"This does not mean that everything you sell has to last six years from the date of purchase"
As I said, the Sale of Goods Act allows the consumer to expect a product to last 'up to' six years, depending on the product. And yes, wear and tear is not included. The consumer has to prove the product contained a manufacturing fault or has an inherently bad design that is destined to failure within an unreasonable amount of time. These times are ultimately decided by a judge based on the product and the specifics of the situation.
With so many hard drive manufacturers offering 3-5 year warranties by default, I would argue it is fairly reasonable to expect an apple hard drive product to last more than 3 years. I even suspect the drive inside it, if purchased separately from WD or whoever, would most likely come with such a warranty.
EDIT - I misread the filing, it looks like Apple didn't offer to refund the customer, he was offered a replacement for payment of $252. In that case, I think the guy could have pursued for a replacement, but I still think the rest of the claim is ridiculous.
I have no idea how the system works in this guy's country, but in the UK most people who can be bothered to make claims under the sale of goods act are typically quite successful (via small claims court). The key issue though is that most people either can't be bothered, or just don't know that they have additional protection beyond the manufacturers 12 month warranty.
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:38pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sale of Goods Act"No, in the UK when a consumer buys goods, their contract of sale is with the retailer, not the manufacturer. So if you wish to sue over a product, the Sale of Goods Act expects the consumer to sue the retailer. "
I apologise. I did realise that, but my response was a little badly worded. The lawsuit above doesn't mention where the product was purchased, and from the description it may have been bought through a reseller rather than an Apple store, in which case he seems to be suing the manufacturer rather than the retailer - a rather different tactic.
"With so many hard drive manufacturers offering 3-5 year warranties by default, I would argue it is fairly reasonable to expect an apple hard drive product to last more than 3 years."
Perhaps, but I suppose it depends on which part fails. The device in question is essentially an overblown enclosure for the hard drive, and the drive itself would not be manufactured by Apple so could theoretically have a different warranty that might be covered. The description is of a failure in the enclosure, so the drive might be in perfect working order outside of that. Apple may simply have not wished to cover the recovery at their own expense.
I'd agree that a longer warranty might be nice, but anyone who's worked in I.T. for any length of time has encountered devices still operating 30 years later and devices that happen to fail the day after the warranty expired, sometimes from the same source. Hoping that the one device you choose to hold your data on is the one that lasts longer is foolishness.
"The key issue though is that most people either can't be bothered, or just don't know that they have additional protection beyond the manufacturers 12 month warranty."
To be perfectly honest, in my 3 decades in the UK before I moved away, I didn't bother at all with the small claims system. I rarely encountered any real wrongdoing, and the time and effort for pursuing a claim like the above simply wouldn't be worth my time. I was generally prudent enough to research products before I bought them, and I never left my only copy of anything important on a system prone to failure (i.e. all of them). I've suffered data failure due to my own mistakes of course, but the data's always recoverable if it's worth the effort.
I understand that non-techies might have a different take, but in my opinion the only reason a device might be worth more than its original purchase price due to the data stored is the user's own mistake.
Robbie, 19 Jun 2012 @ 4:31pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sale of Goods ActThe lawsuit above doesn't mention where the product was purchased, and from the description it may have been bought through a reseller rather than an Apple store
In section 9:
The Plaintiff was told by Simply Computing representatives to take the TimeCapsule back to the original Apple Store where it was purchased.
TBH, its not entirely clear to me if he's going after Apple the manufacturer or Apple the retailer, but as he's stating the Sale of Goods Act, I guess it's whatever ties in with that.
PaulT (profile), 20 Jun 2012 @ 12:34am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sale of Goods ActAh, my apologies, I somehow missed that while skimming last night.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 4:00amDepends what he was told when he bought it.
My friend (stupidly) bought all Apple products, including a Time Capsule. The sales guy told him "Unlike other brands of backup devices the Time Capsule won't fail after several years. You could keep it for 50 years if you want."
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 4:22am
Re: Depends what he was told when he bought itReally? I was told that; eating a Big Mac would not make me fat; a certain brand of battery would "keep going and going and going"; gym membership would turn me into a muscle bound god. Need I go on?
Caveat emptor! This is especially true when talking to a salesman who is paid on commission.
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 5:03am
Re:I love the way people attack Apple whenever their name is brought up. The anti-fanboy reaction to their very name tends to be a lot worse than the fanboy defenses of their mistakes.
"My friend (stupidly) bought all Apple products, including a Time Capsule."
No he didn't. If the products met his needs and he's happy with the manufacturer's products, then he made a rather sensible buying decision.
The sales guy was stupid for having claimed such a thing, and your friend was stupid if he believed his claim and/or based his decision solely on the claims of a salesman. However, unless you think that buying only from one manufacturer is inherently stupid, his decision to buy only Apple is no different from another person's decision to only buy Dell, HP or whatever.
"Depends what he was told when he bought it."
Was the salesman employed by Apple? If not, why should they be held accountable for what a 3rd party falsely claimed about their product? If so, I hope someone's reported him to Apple for falsely representing their products.
Years ago, I worked at a major electrical goods store that stocked Apple products. One particular salesman had a habit of lying outright to customers about iMacs so that he could get the higher commission rate for selling them instead of Windows PCs. Even when I had to deal with the umpteenth angry customer wanting to know why their Windows software wouldn't run on OS9, I didn't hold Apple accountable for this idiot's lies. In fact, I was more likely to blame the customer for blindly accepting the word of a commission-earning salesman instead of doing some actual research before parting with �1000+.
NullOp, 19 Jun 2012 @ 4:41am
Failed...I WISH we could legitimately sue over something failing that should not have. I sue the living crap out of our government as it has most certainly failed the citizens of the U.S.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 5:32am
Warranty should be: life of owner + 70 years.I agree with just about everyone else that a backup is meant to be used only in an emergency where the primary copy is lost. No hardware manufacturer should be held responsible for lost data.
The lawsuit doesn't seem to be about lost data at all. It seems that the device failed out of warranty and therefore Apple won't repair it. The article make no mention of any attempt to actually recover the data on the device. In fact the article says the device "would not turn back on", which could be as simple as a power supply failure. The hard drive used in the device might still be functional and data may be recoverable.
We all know, no device works forever.
It seems Mr. Tung is suing because the warranty expired.
AndyD273 (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 6:05am
Recovery Cost?Maybe the $25k is to cover the cost of getting the data recovered?
I think everyone here agrees that one copy does not a backup make, and preferably you want to have a copy as far off site as you can, either a physical media copy or a cloud copy.
However, Apple does a lot to market their products to people that don't know computers.
Not saying this guy has an excuse for not having a second backup. Or keeping a copy of everything on the computer at the very least.
I'd rather have a less expensive external HD for local backup combined with a backup service like Carbonite or Jungle Disk or one of the many other online backup options than an over priced external hard drive.
For $299 at least get one with multiple drives for redundancy.
PaulT (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:21pm
Re: Recovery Cost?I'm admittedly a tech-minded guy, but my take is what someone mentioned elsewhere - if the only copy of his data was on the capsule, he didn't have a backup of any kind. He had a single copy of data that happened to be stored on a backup device. If he didn't bother to actually back things up in the real meaning of the term (i.e. having multiple copies of the data, preferably in multiple physical locations), he only has himself to blame. I will still maintain that the symptoms he's describing still means that the data is recoverable, just that Apple won't get it on their dime.
"I'd rather have a less expensive external HD for local backup combined with a backup service like Carbonite or Jungle Disk or one of the many other online backup options than an over priced external hard drive. "
Having used one of these devices before, I'll defend them to some extent in that it's more than simply an external hard drive, and it doesn't introduce the external issues a cloud provider can introduce. Overpriced? Perhaps, but anyone even considering Apple products should realise that. But, simply comparing it to an external hard drive or cloud service is missing the point somewhat.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 6:16am
Wha-?One of the items he's trying to claim recovery costs on is for a wireless router. Did Apple implode his router too?
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 7:31am
Re: Wha-?The "Time Machine" is a router with a backup drive built in. If your Time Machine fails, you have lost both.
Anonymous Coward, 19 Jun 2012 @ 7:32am
Re: Wha-?I meant "Time Capsule".
dento77 (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 9:18am
doesn't your state gov protect consumers or is Maine the only one?http://www.maine.gov/ag/dynld/documents/clg4.pdf
Consumer Goods and Maine Express and Implied Warranty Laws
my family and i have used this to have items replaced way beyond anything stated by the manufacturer. a 1 year warranty like the one Apple (or any other company) has is a complete joke and should not be tolerated imo.
Get off my cyber-lawn! (profile), 19 Jun 2012 @ 2:00pm
Help! My time capsule broke and I can't get up!A broken piece of technology seems like THE perfect time capsule piece to represent our current society! Something quick and easy which doesn't last but creates legal cases which will outlast the final cockroach.
Just sayin....
So Mr Tung asked Apple if the data from Time Capsule could be recovered. Apple said no, but has he asked for a second opinion?
Apple are great at lots of things, but not data recovery experts. This is what we do here at PicBack.
We have successfully recovered data from many damaged Time Capsules. They can be a little more difficult to work on but are still just hard drives at the end of the day.
While we can't guarantee that data can be recovered every time, we have all the right tools for the job. If anyone else is in the same position then they can read more about out service here - http://picback.com/time-capsule-recovery
This story should stand as a warning that drives do fail and that it is always a good idea to have several backups of your valuable data.


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Game 6 is more than a count of what has been played, more than a bookmark to the World Series. Game 6 has its own mystique. The most dramatic World Series usually go seven games, but it can't get there without a Game 6.
One way or another, it ends after Game 7, which takes away part of the suspense. However, there's a sense of urgency, of desperation, for the team behind entering Game 6.
It is why many of baseball's most dramatic moments are born to that game. I've chosen five, with the criteria being I saw the game and it produced a seventh game.
One of baseball's most enduring images, and perhaps its greatest game, came in the 1975 World Series on Carlton Fisk's game-ending homer in the 12th inning as Boston beat Cincinnati, 7-6. Fisk's homer was made possible by Bernie Carbo's three-run, two-strike, pinch-hit game-tying homer in the eighth inning.
Fisk's moment just delayed what Red Sox fans would call the inevitable, as Boston lost Game 7 at Fenway Park.
Another moment etched in time is the ball that got by by Bill Buckner in the 1986 World Series. Down to their last out, the Mets rallied for three runs to beat Boston, 6-5, with the game-winner coming on Mookie Wilson's dribbler through Buckner's legs.
The Mets went on to win Game 7, and overcame a three-run deficit to do it.
That game was made possible because the Mets prevailed against Houston over 16 innings in Game 6 of the NLCS. Keith Hernandez called it a crucial victory as it kept the Mets from facing Mike Scott, who beat them in Games 1 and 4.
This year's playoffs have been marred by terrible umpiring, but one of the game's most infamous calls came in the eighth inning of Game 6 of the 1985 World Series that might have kept St. Louis from winning. Facing elimination and down 1-0 going into the ninth inning, umpire Don Denkinger ruled Kansas City's Jorge Orta safe at first on a play in which he was clearly out.
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Often forgotten, perhaps because the game wasn't decided on a game-ending hit, Anaheim rallied from five runs down in the seventh inning to beat San Francisco, 6-5. The Angels scored three in the seventh and three in the eighth to win, then won Game 7.
Another came in the 1971 World Series, when the Orioles, facing elimination, beat Pittsburgh, 3-2, in 10 innings on Brooks Robinson's sacrifice fly.
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Tell us what the product is for, and who it's aimed at. What do the manufacturers say about it? How does that compare to your own feelings about it?
Traditional winter cycling hat made from natural, recycled wool. Keeps your head warm.
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Hand made from 100% recycled fabric. Fully customizable, you can choose any colour or pattern (as long as they have it in stock).
Good attention to detail
The wool worked well at wicking moisture from my head which was just as well because it definitely keeps your head warm.
It has a brand-new second-hand feel. Pre-worn and loved soft to the touch.
Using the natural elasticity of the fabric it fitted my round head very snuggly. No red marks across your forehead or bulging eyes with this on.
No sweat shops were involved which has a higher moral value.
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It kept my head warm and was comfortable to wear.
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See previous answer!
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May not suit everybody.
Did you enjoy using the product? yes
Would you consider buying the product? yes
Would you recommend the product to a friend? yes, to my spherical head shaped friends
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Age: 36 Height: 78 Weight: 178
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CC finds Rays' Myers to be thorn in his side
NEW YORK -- CC Sabathia showed a potential sign of his old self in the first inning Sunday against Wil Myers. He already allowed a run on a pair of doubles -- one off the left-field fence and one that bounced over the right-field wall -- and he couldn't quite crank his fastball up to its former mid-90s form, but he put one past Myers for a strikeout en route to escaping the inning.
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NEW YORK -- CC Sabathia showed a potential sign of his old self in the first inning Sunday against Wil Myers. He already allowed a run on a pair of doubles -- one off the left-field fence and one that bounced over the right-field wall -- and he couldn't quite crank his fastball up to its former mid-90s form, but he put one past Myers for a strikeout en route to escaping the inning.
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The slugging Rays sophomore hit a three-run inside-the-park homer off Sabathia in the third, then sent the struggling ace home with an RBI double in the fourth. The exit was already too late for the 41,122 fans at Yankee Stadium, whose frustrated boos made the most noise on an afternoon when the American League East-rival Rays took the three-game series with a 5-1 win.
"I was surprised to see today a little bit," said manager Joe Girardi. "I still think he's evolving as a different type of pitcher. Today he just didn't have his normal stuff that he's brought out the whole season. I didn't think he had his good sinker. I didn't think he had his good changeup. That was a little strange to see."
Girardi, Sabathia and pitching coach Larry Rothschild agree singular poor pitches or bad innings were the lefty's problem through his first six starts.
At times, according to Rothschild, Sabathia tried to revert too much to his old self, the former AL Cy Young Award winner who could power a fastball past the most imposing of hitters. Sabathia called it "just a lapse in concentration for a pitch or two."
It was a lack of stuff throughout Sunday's finale.
Rothschild noticed it in the bullpen, where he said Sabathia did not warm up well. And the big left-hander responded by trying to make early adjustments, keeping his hand more on top of his two-seamer. But he couldn't consistently command his changeup and called his fastball "all over the place."
"If I pitch better in those starts before, and we're not questioning that one pitch or that one inning, this doesn't look as bad," Sabathia said. "Obviously giving up 10 hits and five runs in three innings is not ever going to look good, but it doesn't pile on."
Instead it brought his ERA to 5.75 and his record to 3-4.
It forced Sabathia, his pitching coach and his manager to offer assurances that the 33-year-old is healthy and can find his familiar success, although they all admit he has to do it a little bit differently.
"I feel like he'll get past that as he gets adjusted to what he's doing now," Rothschild said. "Today he was just out of sync all day."
Relief came into the game after Myers' fourth-inning RBI double into left field, but the decisive runs scored an inning earlier, when Sabathia allowed a one-out double to Desmond Jennings before walking Evan Longoria to bring Myers to the plate.
"I think a big difference would be, I think, Wil Myers hitting an inside-the-park home run," said Rays manager Joe Maddon. "That gave [Myers] some confidence and took a little bit away from them. That was the game-changer for us."
Sabathia threw a 2-2 changeup -- he was ahead of Myers with no balls and two strikes when he delivered a 91-mph fastball for the first-inning punchout -- and Myers sent it slicing away from Jacoby Ellsbury in center field.
The former AL Gold Glove Award winner made a leaping effort, but the ball smacked off the fence out of his reach, bouncing off his leg and into right field, giving Ellsbury no choice but to watch Carlos Beltran retrieve it as he returned to his feet from an awkward collision with the wall. Myers already had the signal to round third and head for home as Beltran fielded the ball, and it mattered little that Yangervis Solarte dropped the relay throw at second base.
Beltran was too far away to make a real play anyway.
"I just got caught up watching the play," Beltran said, "and when I reacted … I just couldn't get to it."
Alfredo Aceves entered and escaped the fourth, then kept the Rays off the board as he saw the game out with 5 1/3 scoreless innings, but the bats offered little help.
Three times the Yankees went three-up, three-down against Tampa Bay starter Erik Bedard -- they did so again against Joel Peralta in the eighth -- and they stranded all but one of the seven runners they put on base against the southpaw who entered the game winless with nine earned runs allowed in his previous 14 2/3 innings.
The Yankees scored four runs in 3 2/3 innings against Bedard in an April 18 loss, but they managed only one this time, temporarily tying the game in the second. Mark Teixeira led off with a single up the middle, advanced to third on an Alfonso Soriano double and scored on a sacrifice fly from Solarte.
It was one of three instances in which the Yankees had two on with nobody out, but the only time they scored.
Twice they turned the lineup over with runners in scoring position, but the first three hitters -- Ellsbury, Derek Jeter and Beltran -- went a combined 0-for-12, stranding 10 runners on base.
"The theme of these games that we've lost, probably the last four or five, is we really haven't hit with runners in scoring position," Girardi said, "and that's what it comes down to."
The skipper defended his captain, who had Peyton and Eli Manning watching from his personal suite as he went hitless in four at-bats to drop his current skid to 2-for-25.
It's not a matter of ascending age or declining health, according to Girardi, just a slump -- Jeter echoed the sentiments -- and the Yankees are left hoping the same is true for their staff ace.
"I can't let a little adversity throw what I've done over the years out the window," Sabathia said. "I still need to go out and battle and be as good as I can be. Going through this adversity has been the toughest part of my baseball career by far, but I know I'll come out of this and be a better pitcher for it."
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IDAHO FALLS, Idaho—A Colorado woman wanted in Idaho for nearly two decades has turned herself in and been sentenced to one year of unsupervised probation for misdemeanor battery.
The Post Register reports (http://bit.ly/WblgR5) that 40-year-old Lisa Marie Arthur had been living in Thornton, Colo., since the Idaho arrest warrant was issued in 1995, when she failed to appear in court. She faced a charge of lewd conduct with a minor younger than 16.
Late last month, Arthur, along with an attorney, turned herself in. On Thursday. she pleaded guilty to misdemeanor battery in 7th District Court.
"I give her some credit," Bonneville County Chief Deputy Prosecutor Daniel Clark said.
Clark said the alleged victim, now 33, denied a relationship happened. That led to the initial charge being amended to misdemeanor battery. He said Arthur needed to clear up the outstanding warrant so she could qualify for professional licensing in her nursing career.
Magistrate Judge Stephen Clark granted Arthur a withheld judgment. That means there was no guilty verdict and, if Arthur successfully completes her probation, she could have the charge dismissed.
Arthur's sudden appearance followed a report by the newspaper earlier this month about outstanding warrants held by the Idaho Falls Police Department. Arthur's was the oldest of 742 outstanding warrants.
Daniel Clark said Arthur had apparently avoided trouble with the law over the years and so was never picked up on the warrant. He speculated the warrant was so old that police in other states might not have known it existed.
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