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June 23, 2009, 11:52 p.m. CST
by Dr. Zempf
Well, now I know what I won't be going to see today.
June 23, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST
by JediRob
I had really hoped we would see improvements from the first, not more of the worst parts.
June 23, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST
by Tommy999
Yes there was some stupid shit in there such as the twins, the dog stuff..the pot brownie stuff, but Soundwave...that was awesome Megatron and Starscream going at it..wicked Devestator.. sweet, honestly I'm not in it to be experience a story that will blow my mind.. I'm in it to see stuff from my childhood realized in a ooo that looks fucking awesome kinda way, and that's why I enjoyed it
June 23, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST
by theneonsamurai
June 23, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST
by Marshal_Lannes
Concise and to the point...
June 24, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST
by Jobacca
Sounds like Michael Bay took the money,filmed a giant FUCK YOU,and then ran laughing all the way to the bank. He's made a movie too stupid for adults and too offensive for parents to bring their kids to. In a perfect world,this movie would fail and cause Hollywood to take a long hard look at the shit it produces. In reality,it will make more than DARK KNIGHT did and lead to at least 3 or 4 more Bay-directed robot flicks....maybe the next one will have Al Jolson-Prime singing Mammy and treating us all to a delightful giant robot soft shoe before transforming into the General Lee!
June 24, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST
by Ryan B
It makes no sense to me.
June 24, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST
by ABking
Harry, tell your buddy MICHAEL BAY that his cock might be huge, but that he needs a BIG brain the next time he tries the bigger is better approach. HE NEVER WILL BE JAMES CAMERON and the sooner he realizes that, the better.
June 24, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Bay et. al won't see a penny from me... or even bandwidth for an illegal download, for that matter.
June 24, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST
by TheDark0Knight
If this really is as terrible as everyones saying im gonna be pissed...This summer has had 3 good films thus far...Star Trek, UP, Drag Me to Hell...everything else has been disappointing. Ive also been hearing Public Enemies is mediocre...so this summer is officially mediocre.
June 24, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST
by Boborci
thanks for trying to give me and Alex a pass, but the sequence of events isn't exactly right. Two weeks before the strike, Alex and Ehren and I generated a 20 page story outline together, and then Michael used it during the strike to prep the action and to develop some of the things he wanted into more of a 60 page scriptment. The twins were born then. I wouldn't blame Ehren for anything that you wouldn't blame us for, but thanks anyway.
June 24, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST
by Ryan B
I get the headline now.
June 24, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST
by Ryan B
I think...
June 24, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST
by TheDark0Knight
if you are real you did a fucking great job on TREK...wtf happened here?
June 24, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST
by iwontwin
I liked the first film, but this one sounds horrid.
June 24, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST
by elbmirb
I know that when a movie is this offensive to a fanboy there really is no hope for it. I felt the same way when Wolverine came out. What a shitty year for blockbusters.
June 24, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST
by Boborci
We will have to wait and see what an the majority of audiences think before we can draw any lessons.
June 24, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST
by kuldan
...if the stuff is actually true. Just because they showcase it in a movie doesn't mean it can NEVER happen in your eyes, Harry. Live in Downtown L.A. for about two weeks and all of these "racial slurs" won't seem so ridiculous.
June 24, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST
by Human_Bean_Juice_
despite myself. What a poor summer for cinema.
June 24, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST
by owlxi
was going to see it.. but.. meh
June 24, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
The forrest fight was really good, and a lot of excess crap that could be easily taken out, forgot about Sam's mum and the brownies, that did go on for far too long. <p> Edit out 60 minutes of crap, have a far more decent and fun 90 minute movie.
June 24, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST
by Mutilator
It's great to hear that Michael Bay managed to top his brilliant masturbation joke from the first one.
June 24, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST
by ides
I hate to state the painfully obvious, but is there anything else to say about a Michael Bay movie? It's hard to find enough competence to grasp onto for a review to rise above cliche.
June 24, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST
by AJD_1
What the hell was Spielberg (maker of some of the most inoffensive and entertaining films of my childhood) THINKING? Did he even see this movie? Someone must have realised this stuff wasn't going to play well before this mindless flick was released! What on earth does this say about what Hollywood is trying to tell the world?
June 24, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST
by AJD_1
Lets hope not!
June 24, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST
by animas
one of your better reviews...
June 24, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST
by j-bot
It's a fuckin' movie...about giant robots from another planet. You guys act like you haven't seen the cartoon before. I have all the seasons on dvd and have seen every episode, and you know what? They're fuckin' goofy as hell.
June 24, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST
by Z0D
and then now hates Transformers two only a little bit less, I know I will enjoy Transformers 2 even more than Transformers 1! OMG....Yes a movie can have worthless fluff, but if it's fluff filling in between Optimus kicking ass and Devastator powning the little guys then so be it. It's a popcorn movie (maybe with a little ass-hattery)! Not a Kurosawa flick released on Criterion! Duh... ___KNEEL___
June 24, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST
by CherryValance
Kid mashed up his hand and almost lost an eyeball for that? Geez.
June 24, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST
by NoQuarter
Bob Orci or was somebody just impersonating him?
June 24, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST
by Kingdaddy
But this reviews reeks of jealous fanboy bullshit. Call out Spielberg Harold. Bet it'll serve you in spades. Oops, was that racist also?
June 24, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST
by BEEK
Well said. I saw it last night with my (who happens to be african America) who walked out, with others..of a FREE SCREENING! The comic shop I own is cross promoting it with a local free newspaper and I had to send a letter of apology to all my customers. I was too embarrassed for words. Let's just say it didn't play well here in San Francisco.
June 24, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST
by jackknifed_juggernaut
can't say i remember much "shucking and jiving" and all around buffoonery. but again, that was nearly twenty years ago... i could be wrong.
June 24, 2009, 12:36 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
yeah no shit. I'd be happy with a fun, badass summer movie thrill ride, but it isnt that either!
June 24, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Which is saying something, hell yeah Harry, keep working that magic.
June 24, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST
by everstranger
Watched it two days ago in Tokyo. It's not bad, it's just really really retarded. What do you expect from a movie based on toys that stopped being "cool" after you turn 10... I needed a dose of kick ass SFX on a big screen, and it's just what I got.
June 24, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
i swear that dude is on drugs. now the titles of his reviews are as bad as the review itself. <p> I dont really know if its racist and i really dont care. its terrible anyway.
June 24, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST
by Citizen Sane
He's an inept director who obviously doesn't give A SHIT about telling a good story; and Speilberg has been totally irrelevent since Shindler. But just wait, this piece of shit will probably rake in an insane amount of money from all the clueless fan-boys who can't resist jerking off to what's her fuck... or Optimus Prime
June 24, 2009, 12:44 a.m. CST
by LoneGun
Harry's certainly entitled to his opinions, but I hate being preached to about what films I should or shouldn't see, especially by someone who belches the words "f-ing retarded" around so frequently. Also, the complaints about Ehren Kruger may have validity, but they sound petty and personal.
June 24, 2009, 12:44 a.m. CST
by Seph_J
support swearing and disgusting things. So, surely then I ought to... stop coming to .... this site? Anyone??
June 24, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST
by standundermyumbrella
You must have known something was going to go down????? You could sniff out TITANIC in Minniapolis back in the days but not AVATAR?
June 24, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST
by jimmy_009
I bet everyone involved regrets that now.
June 24, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST
by Citizen Sane
June 24, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST
by Nuck81
He likes everything, guess transformers didn't help pay any bills
June 24, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST
by everstranger
remembering the first names of those freaking toys is beyond me. I'm sure some of you guys can name those robots more easily than your politicians or historical personnalities...
June 24, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST
by kbarber29
I try to avoid comedy movies for this same type of low level humor. It's sickening and has no place in theater.
June 24, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST
by ABking
Even the first TRANSFORMERS grew on me, but I gave up BAY a long time ago. He is a HACK with power because of how much money his films make...and much of that thanks should really go to JERRY BRUCKHEIMER and STEVEN SPIELBERG. They produced many to most of his films and the one they did not do -THE ISLAND- FLOPPED. Michael BAY is a big flop himself. GO AWAY BAY!
June 24, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST
by The Mothman
With another Transformers opening, and David Fincher attached to a Facebook script, I don't think I've ever been more bored with movies. Seriously, the only recent films I can remember being alright are The Lookout, Idiocracy and 3.10 to Yuma, and IMDB tells me YEARS have passed since they came out. I could start to rave about remakes, sequels, CGI etc etc but what good does it do? It's the time I live in, and it's going to get worse before it gets better. How much worse? Read Flicker to get an idea. Read it, don't wait for the adaptation. Apprently it's been fucked up too.
June 24, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST
by Autodidact
I'm gonna see this any way, but since it's so long, it'd be nice to know when there's a nice long stretch of inanity so that I can outside and smoke another joint. So will someone please suggest a point in the running time where it would be adviseable to get up and leave for fifteen minutes?
June 24, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST
by Citizen Sane
I'll bet it's his dick that bought him his pointless career. i wonder who he gave it up for...? Geffen, Bruckheimer perhaps.
June 24, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST
by Boborci
"So, Orci, who's idea was it for decepticon ball sacks?" <p> I think that was us 3 screenwriters. Yes, it took all three of us. Only I have to quibble a tad with your label. They are wrecking balls.
June 24, 2009, 12:53 a.m. CST
by Han Cholo
Everyone says so and those who actually like the film other than 9 year olds make me lose all hope in the human race. Whatta piece of shit. And I can tell just by watching the trailers. FUCK THIS MOVIE!!!
June 24, 2009, 12:54 a.m. CST
by kbarber29
Best Star Trek Film ever!
June 24, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST
by ALB_Ariel
Seriously..? It's a BAY movie, for f**k sake
June 24, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST
by Rommel Catuncan
tells many a great tale of the rights and wrongs of his kind.
June 24, 2009, 12:59 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
and barry manilow.
June 24, 2009, 1 a.m. CST
by Tacoloft
It's about time they bring some salty offensive humor back into movies. I am going to see this-- just for the plain fact that Harry doesn't like it I am pretty sure I will LOVE it because Harry can't check his biases and snobbish nose at the cinema door.
June 24, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST
by mitortilla
Torrent a Go!
June 24, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST
by mitortilla
June 24, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST
by Han Cholo
So shitty? Did the execs give you a truckload of money or what? Come on man. How do you go from re-inventing Star Trek to being incomprehensible with these TF movies? Don't give me that bullshit about box office. Shit is shit and this movie is definitely shit!
June 24, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST
by Rommel Catuncan
and he was laughing, so I guess it was okay.
June 24, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST
by RandySavage
First an accurate review of Terminator 4 and now another accurate one of Transformers:RotF... I'm liking this trend. <P> Harry, when your brain fully develops, please go back and watch Phantom Menace and write us an honest review.
June 24, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST
by Rommel Catuncan
And Chris "Mad Dog" Russo- what's his opinion? <p> Howard and Jimmy said it killed.
June 24, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST
by CENOBITE
why? because they feel guilty. they think they know what kids like, and pander idiotic bullshit commercials, TV shows, etc. Why do they feel guilty? Because they were too selfish with their own careers to give a fuck. And if they do have kids, they rarely see them. This is why you will always have hollywood crap that panders to children. But kids know the difference... at lest the smart ones do, the others, just don't care.
June 24, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST
by kbarber29
June 24, 2009, 1:16 a.m. CST
by kbarber29
June 24, 2009, 1:16 a.m. CST
by kbarber29
June 24, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST
by red_eddie
come on. Are they really wrecking balls? ..this is a huge wTF? Surely theyre wrecking balls but obviously part of some piss/fart/ style joke because everyone else whos seen it seems to call it a HUGE NUT sack.. What happend to that consultant michael bay hired for the first one? He was the gatekeeper of all transformer knowledge, surely he wouldnt allow this. No one wanted to hire him the second time out??..Its looking like that was a bad move so far. Im seeing it anyway tommorrow even though ive been warned.
June 24, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST
by Hagrid1
You'll be hearing a lot of negative things about Giant F-ing Robots Part Deux. It's not that what the critics are saying are entirely wrong. For the most part, I agree with a huge chunk of what's been said. But I think people are missing the point about Michael Bay and his Bayhem. Because Michael Bay does not make movies. Michael Bay makes porn. In the seventies, people thought how revolutionary it would be to film a story where once you cut to the love scenes, you would actually see people having sex. This is like the golden age of the seventies in film where you have Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, Friedkin, Lucas (before the dark times), and so forth. But you know what? How many individuals actually sit through the story of the porn movie thinking "oh gosh, I can't wait till these two get it on, I'm in SUCH suspense?" No one. We fast forward to the good parts. Then in the eighties, videotape ruined that. Less story, more porn. Now in the age of DVD and BLU-RAY... no story, all porn. For example, a man in a suit enters a house for a business meeting with his partner. The partner isn't there, but his wife - dressed in slutty lingerie at 2 in the afternoon - is there to greet him. The man in the suit says "great - I confirmed this meeting three times. NOW what am I gonna do?" And then slutty lingerie wife offers him options. BAM! Cut to the love scene. One and a half minutes of story followed by twenty minutes of gymnastic sexual antics. So what Michael Bay does is make modern day blockbusters following the formula of modern day porn. Skip the story, and get right to the reason we hit 'yes' on our On Demand. Sometimes, you're just not in the mood for a story that changes the way you see the world. You just want some porn. You want The Rock or Armageddon. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is like Giant Robot Porn. We don't really care how we see big robots fighting, because that's inherently just silly. Kind of like when a hot blond girl in a short skirt who says she's over 18 can't wait to get at a man in his forties who oozes Axe Body Spray. It's just silly. But we don't care. We just want to see big robots fighting. We want to see Godzilla smash some shit. So give us about ten to twenty minutes of story (which is what T:ROTF gives us) and then give us 2 hours of insane over-the-top-ludicrous-action-that-we-know-can't-possibly-be-realistic-and-doesn't-make-sense-but-who-gives-a-crap-it's-fun-as-hell-to-watch. He basically skips the setup and gets right to the good stuff. Which is what porn does best. So I had a total blast watching T:ROTF. The audience laughed and clapped a hell of a lot at the end. I sat next to four black women who were on the edge of their seat and laughing at all the stuff with the Twins. Judging by those lines I saw, I expect the rest of America will be figuring it out for themselves this week. Now imagine if Michael Bay made an honest-to-goodness porn. (Or with all this remake madness - what abot a remake of SHOWGIRLS? AND on IMAX?) Now that'll be worth $14 dollars...
June 24, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST
by Harbor
Just give your money to me and watch the original Transformers animated movie. Screw "Bay"!
June 24, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST
by MasterSong
Seriously, Im so off this site its not funny. Almost EVERY movie gets the shit bagged out of it. This isnt a movie lover site anymore, its a haters site. Check a site called trip advisor. its supposed to be about reviews. However the only time people use it is to bitch and moan about little things. Transformers ??? What the hell were you expecting? Seriously. Have a REALLY good think about what you wanted to see. All this web site does is promote directors you like and bags the crap out of ones for some small pathetic reason that you dont like. You promote shitty comics and obscure fan boy crap like its liquid gold coming out of your screens. You may as well call this site 'Aint it Cool if you are .....'. This isnt abvout TF2. I havent seen it. I will. I may think its crap too. But Im certainly not expecting an Oscar worthy 2 hours like all you fools still living in the 1980's. I watched Outlander on this sites recommendation and found it the biggest turd worthy sea anchor I have ever seen. But you guys liked it. Next time I want to depress myself about the joys of movies, I will come back here. Harry and crew, have a good think about the last 2 years of this site. There is no love anymore for 'Aint It Cool 5% Of The Time If You Tell Me So'. Get your own opinion everyone. Im outta here
June 24, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Fill the hole where your soul should be? You and your butt buddy have written nothing but fucking trash. You invest NOTHING in your screenplays but generic garbage aimed at the lowest common denominator. Understand that the success and critical blowjobs over Star Trek is because Abram's made the movie so fast paced that people were willing to ignore the fact that the whole movie was Good Will Hunting + Wrath of Khan. Star Trek was successful DESPITE your involvement. I'm sure my words mean nothing to you as you and that other dickhead you "write" with are rolling in cash but know this, 50 years from now the two of you will be forgotten to the trash heap of cinema. You move no one, you inspire no one and you will never make a difference. You only make things worse.
June 24, 2009, 1:34 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Glad to see the check from Paramount cleared, you know, the one you got to keep your mouth shut. Doesn't it bother you that you are now owned by people who loathe you? You are now a company man and Bill Hicks would not approve.
June 24, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST
by Raymar
Run with it, Sommers.
June 24, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST
by C A Iversen
Your advertising it on the main page in two places for goodness sake! Thats real integrity?
June 24, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST
by hallmitchell
I swore never to see another Transformers film while Michael Bay's name is on the credits. I will never ever see Transformers 2. You got my money the first time. That's enough. I pledge for fanboys NOT to see this film.
June 24, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST
by Penhall99
You hide behind your keyboards and piss and moan about EVERYTHING. Bob Orci comes here to interact, and you guys treat him like shit. You know what? If you think you can write a better movie, then get off your fat asses and do it. Stop complaining and do it. But you wont do it, because you dont have the talent or drive. Get a life.
June 24, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
in both movies (i downloaded the second) he seems more interested in blowing up army dudes and showing off vehicles than transformers. and nothing creative. its shit you've seen a thousand times in better movies. who the fuck besides Bay wants to see this shit? For a good 30 minutes you see the military randomly blow up, with some robots doing stuff in the background. the last act was terrible. <p>BAY! YOU CANT DO HUMANS! youre just not good at it. stop trying and focus on robots fighting for the love of god! truly pathetic. way to miss the point.
June 24, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
you know how retarded you sound? you have to suck a lot of cock (and know which cocks to suck) to ever write on a huge budget movie. it has nothing to do with talent. there are much better writers in the biz, and their problem isnt laziness, its not knowing the right people. stop crying.
June 24, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST
by Boborci
"HEY, Boborci, DOES THE MONEY YOU MAKE WRITING SHIT Fill the hole where your soul should be? "<p> No. It doesn't.
June 24, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST
by BadWaldosRevenge
...towards the Latinos. Even a neighbor who is a Hispanic to whom I loaned a rental DVD of the movie said it's racist. <p>I saw the first Transformers movie and thought it was lame-assed despite terrific visual effects. <p>While I doubted your judgment on Armageddon, I'll skip Transformers II flick. I might bear to watch it on a free rental (no Red Box dollar) to see how wretched the movie really is. I'm a little surprised you are considerably more uptight when you expressed concern about unmitigated foul language in Transformers II flick. It's PG-13. From your description, it sounds like it's close to an R with raunchy humor geared towards children and teenyboppers with deceptive marketing focused on the action scenes. <p>I haven't been to the movies since I saw that over-glared POS Star Trek, and based on your condemnation of Transformers II along with T4, I'm glad to take your advice and skip the movies this summer. It's more refreshing watching great classic movies in black and white on DVD, so one would not have to be reminded of the godawful inferior, foul, hyper-edited and grotesquely violent movies out in theaters now that undermine the faith in recent movies. <p>Maybe James Cameron will single-handedly restore our faith in movies in terms of movie-going experience. Commence eyeball raping.
June 24, 2009, 1:52 a.m. CST
by Penhall99
Thanks for proving a point for me. There truly are some vile and disgusting people here.
June 24, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST
by natecore
while working on this movie? Its as if Obama is the only man of race ever in this country.
June 24, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST
by HEADGEEK
Yeah, but BAD BOYS 2 was not aimed at children, and though I loved BAD BOYS 2 - my original review talks a lot about the crazy ass racism of that film.
June 24, 2009, 2 a.m. CST
by HEADGEEK
check the front page of the site - Roadblock ads from TRANSFORMERS 2. Sure did buy loving reviews didn't it?
June 24, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST
by HaterofCrap
my favorite review ever!
June 24, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST
by yodalovesyou
Yeah, Harry, I wonder if Uncle George Lucas runs his "Racist" jokes by his African-American girlfriend, you ignorant, worthless little cunt. I love how there's an entire article on The Guardian's website where people are absolutely tearing into you, you pathetic waste of other people's oxygen. Fuck off and die!
June 24, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
the Jar Jar Bots veered dangerously close to stereotyping, but i dont know for sure. its not the ghetto slang or the gold tooth, that stuff is race neutral to me. plenty of idiots act like that, and that idiot Wayans brother acts like them in every movie that he's in. <p>but i think the way they were designed looked an awful lot like the old racist cartoon stereotypes of blacks. the facial features and build. Really dumb.
June 24, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
just as long as you read what i said and realize how stupid your comment was, you can call me what you want.
June 24, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST
by mightymib
Transformers 2 is a spectacular special effects showcase and pure eye candy. No more, but no less either. I enjoyed the hell out of it (and I'm 28) And yes, some of the comedic relief elements could have been left out, but all in all they didn't feel out of place like the monkeys and groundhogs in Indiana Jones 4 for example.
June 24, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST
by mightymib
I hardly think a movie that is rated "PG-13" is "aimed at children". This is no Disney for crying out loud...
June 24, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST
by mitortilla
like Flava Flav.
June 24, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST
by mitortilla
Welcome to the more democratic future. I'm sorry for you.
June 24, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST
by p0llk4t
Didn't I bust your balls a few years back for showing Troma films to this same nephew :p<br><br> Why the fuck would these hacks take the worst parts from the last film and make them more glaring in the second. It's painfully obvious that the film making process is broken. Rather than focus on good characters and storytelling they write scripts by committee and try to throw in something for every age and taste.<br><br> Hey Bay...stop making boring ass films. None of you movies will stand the test of time.
June 24, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST
by nash077
All I can ask is, why? Why did you have to have the twins? Why put a testicle joke on Devastator? Why have Jetfire fart a parachute? Why have Wheelie hump a girl's leg? It's not like jokes are bad. It's just fitting the joke to the setting, and these things were just . . . jarring. So why?
June 24, 2009, 2:29 a.m. CST
by Tommy999
The cries of racism from you Harry are pretty weak, and if you're going to be nitpicking to that extent where was your cry of racism back with Episode I, I believe your reaction in your review to Jar Jar was Mesa Love Him hardly a condemnation of George Lucas using so called stereotypical racial humor. This review is another example of this website going Aha! Filmmaker I'm going to try to Batman and Robin you. It's like Perez Hilton twittering people to call the police for him, a grab for attention, so congrats somewhere Michael Bay is thinking..fuck you Harry. You do mention it yourself in your review the core of a proper story is in there you see it, and I'm sure if someone Phantom Edit's this thing you could probably have a much better film if you cut out all of the rubbish, cause there is some gold in there, should we have to dig to find it? no but this is a summer special effects romp not a hopeful best picture nominee
June 24, 2009, 2:30 a.m. CST
by Fortunesfool
Three of the most moronic, talentless writers in Hollywood and directed by Michael Bay. Oof!<p>Harry's right. Go and see The Hurt Locker instead and see what an intelligent action movie, not created to tick every box of a marketing demographic looks like.
June 24, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST
by iamnicksaicnsn
The racist angle, I can see you disliking. I mean, I didn't think it was too awful, and the girl I'm seeing seemed to think the twins could have easily been making fun of white-trash people (especially since they were apparently voiced by white actors) - but ok, it offends you. That I get. But again, like I said in the dedicated, The Dark Knight it ain't, but that's ok. Like Hagrid1 says, it's porn, and I don't know, I didn't have any problem with that. I had a lot of fun, the crowd had a lot of fun, clapped their asses off. Awesome fights, insane amounts of deaths, a Transformers story that reminded me of the tv show, Frank fucking Welker, great Megatron/Starscream back-and-forth... What the fuck? My girl did point out that Obama was kinda made to be a douche, appointing the asshole character and all, so I guess I'm annoyed with that aspect, but otherwise...
June 24, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
The Velvet Alley, written by Rod Serling for Playhouse 90 in 1959. It stars Art Carney as Ernie Pandish, a struggling writer who gets his big break, dumps his long time agent and friend played by Jack Klugman, and goes to Hollywood. The character that represents you and Kurtzman is Eddie Kirkley, played by Leslie Neilsen, a fellow writer who's been in Hollywood for a while and who, in a moment of clarity from his alcoholic stupor, explains the trappings of his success, quote – "You know how they do it Earnie? They give you a thousand dollars a week and they keep on giving you a thousand dollars a week until that's what you need to live on. Then after that you live every day, your afraid they'll take it away from you." These words were written 50 years ago and they are as relevant to you today as they were to any other hack who sold out at the cost of their personal integrity. But the truth is that you and Kurtzman never had it in you to become another Rod Serling or Paddy Chayefsky so you never had to "sell out" in the first place as being studio lapdogs came to the two of you as easily as breathing.
June 24, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST
by alucardvsdracula
It is what it is, a decentish movie about toy robots. I watched the toons as a kid and owned a couple of the 'formers (as well as the Gobots!!!!) but that's as far as my interest went. I'm expecting pretty much the same deal from no2, no more, no less. Oh and I wouldn't pay to see the fucker either, but I will catch it at some point, I'm in no hurry though.
June 24, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST
by Fortunesfool
Would people stop defending this fucking dirge with the tired 'its just a popcorn movie' line. That's a line thats come from Hollywood producing vacuous, moronic, identi-kit crap for more than a decade. You're basically starting to accept this shit because its been so long since you saw a well-made, well written summer movie.<p>Wake up people.
June 24, 2009, 2:38 a.m. CST
by Boborci
Since its late and I've had a long day, I will indulge a little by giving you my one and only, but truly sincere FUCK YOU of the night. Congrats and thanks.
June 24, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST
by KarlKolchak
I can't imagine somebody being on the fence about this. Nothing Harry says will keep away anybody who wants to see it. IT'S A MOVIE ABOUT A TRUCK THAT TURNS INTO A ROBOT. FROM OUTER SPACE. BASED ON A FRICKIN' TOY.<p> As far as the sexism and racism stuff goes, I can't fathom how somebody who's watched "Family Guy" or Dave Chappelle's show would storm out of the theater in a huff. It's a non-issue.
June 24, 2009, 2:42 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Dreaming of winning writing awards that you will never obtain in reality. Hack.
June 24, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
but then i remembered GI Joe was coming out.
June 24, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST
by p0llk4t
Fucking broken record bull shit and a lazy ass defense that's used constantly by fan boys defending lame shit.<br><br> Hey here's a thought mental midgets...I want FUCKING BOTH! If I'm gonna pay minimum $30 for 2 to see a movie w/ tickets and large drinks only, it better cover all the bases. <br><br> You're telling me it's that hard to produce a movie with good special effects and good characters and a decently written story. FUCK YOU! It really can't be that hard with that much money and talent in the industry. Wait...I guess this is really showing that the hack to talent ration is way off the charts in the hacks favor.<br><br> And for all you douche bag, fan boy, fuckwads who pull out the "it's not Oscar worthy stuff, it's just a special effects summer popcorn flick FTW?" Eat a dick. Why don't we just have ILM produce 1 to 2 hour "summer special effects romps" with no story, just all the good FX.<br><br> I'd much rather pay the ILM wizards than this middle-man hack Bay. Fuck off.
June 24, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST
by Penhall99
Do you have any idea how pathetic you are? Truly?
June 24, 2009, 2:46 a.m. CST
by Dingbatty
deter them from making an animated version of Bayformers, so we can get that third season of the brilliant "Transformers Animated."
June 24, 2009, 2:49 a.m. CST
by Toonol
Nuck81: Wow, Harry didn't like it? He likes everything, guess transformers didn't help pay any bills<p> Two comments earlier:<p> jimmy_009: Too bad they're advertising this film on this site I bet everyone involved regrets that now.<p>
June 24, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST
by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer
June 24, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
So at Christmas I don't have to explain why I bring shame to my family on a global scale.
June 24, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST
by Toonol
He twittered people to call the police? God, what a waste.<p> It's wrong to be glad somebody got punched, I suppose. But can I be glad it wasn't anybody less deserving (i.e., anybody)?
June 24, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST
by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer
You hypocritical asshole
June 24, 2009, 2:55 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
the same show that every. single. mongoloid. everywhere. screamed and howled their hatred for? I remember seeing the designs and liking them, but that was verboten, now the same mindless peons are screaming that the show they said was destroying the lore!1!!11eleven!1 is not being faithfully revered. <P> I hate 'fans'.
June 24, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST
by Penhall99
You don't think your extremely rude comments to a man that simply wants to interact with fans were out of line? Not even a little? Come on, man. I know its the internet but try to show a little decency.
June 24, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
That guy has to come to his senses and realise that you don't get to do SCHINDLER'S LIST and AMISTAD one day then exec produce TRASNFORMERS 2 the next. He needs to ask himself 1) How much money does he actually need? and 2) If putting out TRANSFORMERS 2 helps him finance another MUNICH (or whatever), is that an acceptable trade-off? (I would say absolutely NOT, given how many kids will watch TF2 and feel that various racist and misogynist attitudes are acceptable.)
June 24, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST
by Toonol
It would have been worse if the movie was only 70 minutes long. Then it would have been:<p> "Harry says TRANSFORMERS 2 is foul mouthed, racist & misogynistic! It also runs an half an hour too short!"
June 24, 2009, 3:06 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 3:07 a.m. CST
by BMacSmith
before it was random words strung together. something about shitting.
June 24, 2009, 3:07 a.m. CST
by thedarklinglord
Sadly, there will be one who positively loves Mudflap and Skids, proudly shouting, "Hells yeah! They be representin'!" And that's so fucking sad...
June 24, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST
by HarryBlackPotter
No invites to Skywalker ranch for you. After your rant about McG, do you have any friends left in Hollywood? See you in court!
June 24, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST
by HarryBlackPotter
No invites to Skywalker ranch for you. After your rant about McG, do you have any friends left in Hollywood? See you in court!
June 24, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST
by antonphd
... music video director who happened to get super lucky with WIll, Tea, Sean and Nic in his first few movie. I enjoy the second unity action directing on his films, yes. I enjoy the super work by ILM on his films. There has never been more than 2 minutes of story in any of his films. I agree that ultimately, Steven is responsible for this film. But whatever, right? Steven made a mint off good aliens until he needed a hit and finally made bad aliens. He's a businessman first. Just like Bay. They want to make money. And it's just entertainment guess. But all the same... I'll see The Hangover again this weekend.
June 24, 2009, 3:20 a.m. CST
by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS
For some reason that line made me laugh.
June 24, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Can you do us all a favour and don't report about every single toy or imageor casting news, or sneak peak that gets released - just publish stories for the trailers, then reviews of the film. That's the very most it deserves.
June 24, 2009, 3:26 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
Wasn't offended at all. Everyone in the audience laughed at the right places. It's a fun, enjoyable movie with good action. Sure, it has plot holes, but then so does everything else.
June 24, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
An obscene amount of money by writing a movie with geriatric farting robots that they will have to explain to their children one day? Hey, I believe in capitalism and the American Dream and if these two had the balls to come on here and say "yeah, we make more money writing nonsensical garbage, with racially offensive UncleTomBots, then 5,000 autoworkers do in an entire year so SUCK IT YOU FUCKING PEASANTS HAHAHAHAH!!!" then I'd have to give them some respect for admitting that they're money grubbing hacks. But they won't because they have artistic pretentions and live in the hope that if Akiva Goldsman can win an Oscar then Hollywood will throw them one once they get around to scripting Michael Bay's dream project about illiterate, Ukrainian, quadriplegic, lesbian, mineworkers starring Megan Fox and Isabel Lucas.
June 24, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST
by ErnestBorgNine
Disney any closer to acquiescing to your demands and releasing it on DVD?
June 24, 2009, 3:29 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
Sad. Everyone in the theater was laughing at them. Aldo, did I mention it was playing on like five screens all sold out?
June 24, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
Bob Orci just fucking owned this elitist piece of shit Charles whatever whatever. <p> Hey Bob man, you can rest easy at night. You are living your dreams and making bank doing it. Don't ever permit a turd detractor that is a failure in life dissuade you from accomplishing your dreams. People resent success you know Bob. It's indicative of their innate misery. <p> You've made two event films this summer that filled theater seats up and ellicited massive audience participation and enthusiasm, and that's something I haven't seen in films since Return of the jedi/Indiana Jones days. Bob, you just keep doing what you're doing. Fuck these turdmongers to hell.
June 24, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST
by Penhall99
All the animosity here is just crazy. But thats all this whole website is. Animosity and hate. There's no discussing movies or anything here. Just a lot of crude comments. Oh well. I'm glad I have other places where I can actually have civilized discussions about things.
June 24, 2009, 3:38 a.m. CST
by iamnicksaicnsn
How much whiter of a guy can you get??
June 24, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST
by HEADGEEK
They actually remastered it, recorded a Leonard Maltin intro for it - along with other celebrities. We'll see what happens with it, but banishing it, would be like banishing GONE WITH THE WIND. It is a great film in Disney's history.
June 24, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit. Bob Orci (if that's him) showed up here to discuss things with us intelligently, and he has to put up with that? <p> Even if you hate the guy, perhaps you could have - oh, I don't know - articulated it as less of an asshole, and maybe tried to find some common ground?
June 24, 2009, 3:44 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
People are patting themselves on the back because they got a HALF African American elected to the White House (never mind the sad fact that Obama wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the WH if both of his parents were AA's) but the truth is that the damage has already been done from Reagan to Bush II and you are now living in the United Corporate States of America where there is always 900 billion for war (to protect against airplane highjacking by people with boxcutters when a locked cabin door and an armed air marshal would be cheaper) and 750 billion for Wall Street (to cover their gambling losses) but it's impossible to create a free healthcare system or improve education while the masses are asleep in their media saturated stupor and lap up trash like Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen. This is what it must have been like at the end of Rome.
June 24, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST
by Devilforhire
Special effects were great. Shia LaBeouf and John Turturro were hysterical. Michael bay gets shitted on because he makes two autobots that act "black" yet the wayans brothers make a whole movie stereotyping white girls and nobody blinks. As for Barack Obama. In the movie he was mentioned during the decepticon invasion and how he went into an undergroung bunker for his protection. At least Bay had the decensy to save him. If he was a racist, Obama would of been blown up by megatron.
June 24, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST
by Devilforhire
Special effects were great. Shia LaBeouf and John Turturro were hysterical. Michael bay gets shitted on because he makes two autobots that act "black" yet the wayans brothers make a whole movie stereotyping white girls and nobody blinks. As for Barack Obama. In the movie he was mentioned during the decepticon invasion and how he went into an undergroung bunker for his protection. At least Bay had the decensy to save him. If he was a racist, Obama would of been blown up by megatron.
June 24, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST
by richardphilip
i liked the last film starting from the part where they leave the Dam sector thingy. I was hoping this would learn from its mistakes in the first film. Ive read most reviews that have been posted and decided not to see it til i read yours. I dont always agree with your reviews ie twilight but your review sounded level headed and basically like the movie is too dumb for anyone who is even willing to forgoe the stupid jokes just to gawp at the sweet action sequences. kinda gutted. bring on Avatar.
June 24, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
is foul language and dog mating worse than murder for entertainment?
June 24, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Because the measure of a man is by how much he has in his bank account, right? By that definition I should be jealous of drug dealers, prostitutes and country western singers. But I'm not because they contribute nothing of worth to our society just like Orci and Kurtzman.
June 24, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST
by Mysterious_Volvo
June 24, 2009, 3:59 a.m. CST
by Mysterious_Volvo
June 24, 2009, 4:02 a.m. CST
by Dingbatty
Fuck you. I never prejudged Transformers Animated. I'm a huge fan of cartoons, more than live action movies/shows, and I particularly like stylized design in animation.
June 24, 2009, 4:02 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Leg humping robots, geriatric farting robots, dogs fucking and the unspeakable horror of John Turturro's ass in IMAX. It would be like Mike Wallace interviewing Rod Serling on the eve of The Twilight Zone's premiere in 1959. I have no doubt that a discussion with Orci and Kurtzman would be like talking physics with Stephen Hawking except with none of the intellectualism and all of the retarded drooling.
June 24, 2009, 4:02 a.m. CST
by schulzcreative
...the first one's DVD immediately after the dizzingly prolonged discussion of masturbation. I couldn't believe what I was hearing in a movie geared for kids. Spielberg should be embarrassed by this crap and he seems to not have learned much the second time around.
June 24, 2009, 4:04 a.m. CST
by zapano
Sorry butit is really fucking beyond me why anyone who watched the first one would go and see this sequel. The first one was an utter waste of time and anyone sees it as a fun action spectacle needs their fucking head examined. It's devoid of any sense of story, character and lacks a single ounce of humanity. <p> The average cinema goer will see this movie meaning that Hollywood will continue to churn out this neanderthal nonsense. People get what they deserve if they support this shit.
June 24, 2009, 4:05 a.m. CST
by bonecrushersmith
Hi. I would like to let everyone out there in on a little secret. There are black people in this world with gold teeth, who are stupid, and who speak in slang. Why can we never show that? We can sure as fuck show the asshole racist white guy, the dumb white jock, the pale white dirty molester, the redneck NASCAR white trash idiot, and on, and on, and on. Anyone with half of a brain knows that most persons of color are in no way respresented by the two GOOFY ROBOTS DESIGNED TO MAKE KIDS LAUGH. When somone makes a movie that calls African-Americans the N-word, shows them eating watermelons with fried chicken, while dancing in blackface for their master, Call me, and I'll be right with in calling that out as insensitive and racist. Until then, get over it.
June 24, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
fuck you with a fucking cherry on top. you, like all other peons, hated the designs.
June 24, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
How did Bob Orci own you, you ask? <p> I'll tell you how. It's fucking simple to sit in the comforts of your own basement force feeding the bag of cheetos and sign on a computer Mommy bought , and attack someones elses art, without having ever, ever in your fucking life, achieved a modicum of success or societal influence. <p> You God damn people aren't film critics, infact your elitist pedantic tastes in film is shit.<p> You mother fuckers don't know the first thing about film, yet you can so callously attack someone that orchestrates an ARMY of technicians and creative artists with a vision to produce mass-media entertainment. <p>Fuck you fleebs. Fuck every one of you fat cocksuckers that have ever said a cross word about a Lucas, Bay, Orci, Cameron, Sommers, whoever the fuck else you want to name. These mother fuckers have achieved more in 10 minutes of their lives than any of you fat pieces of shit will achieve in a life-time, and you have the audacity to presume to lecture someone that LIVES it on what constitutes high art? Fuck you. <p> You mother fuckers have that LUXURY. Cocksuckers. It's fucking EASY to tear down and destroy, but try building and assembling you hack talentless uninspired pieces of shit. Orchestrate a 200 million dollar budget and an army of actors, technicians, craftsmen, designers, writers. Fuck you. <p> How did Bob Orci own you? By even fucking showing up and giving you the profound courtesy of even READING what a true piece of shit that has never created anything has to say. You cowardly mother fuckers it takes a sack to create something all the world will see and unleash it on the public so that any small insignificant trashy piece of shit can "critique" it. That takes more balls than fifty of you fucks have. You pretentious pricks put your shit out there for everyone to judge and lambast and tear apart then see and feel the other end of what insipid, tired little fucks sound like after you've labored on a thing for months. <p> It's one thing to not like the results of a film but when people start attacking the artists or creators as if THEY COULD FUCKING DO ANY BETTER it begins to sound like salty pussy. Tired. Bland. Stale. Small. Salty Pussy. <p> Go fuck yourselves and bag my groceries fat cunts.
June 24, 2009, 4:22 a.m. CST
by barnaby jones
honestly people, go and see any other film in the top ten than this festering monkey turd. Believe me its Batman & Robin bad !!
June 24, 2009, 4:30 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
June 24, 2009, 4:31 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
After reading these reviews, I was thinking they were going to be a lot worse, but they are hardly in the movie.
June 24, 2009, 4:35 a.m. CST
by photoboy
C'mon Harry, you saw Star Trek, that had tons of plot holes, all of them big enough to drive a starship through. The first Bayformers was pathetically scripted and Fringe has the worst science I've seen in a sci-fi show for years. You can't lay all the blame on Kruger here.
June 24, 2009, 4:51 a.m. CST
by Silver_Joo
Colour me retarded but I loved Transformers 2 but even if I didn't, shit, I'm shocked by the vitriol on here. It's far more offensive than any presumed racism in a family film. A film that reminded me of Transformers, y'know, the Transformers for kids long before aging nerds snapped up all the toys instead and complained their childhood was being raped? The humour was delivered by decent comic actors, and as Michael Bay is more than happy to fill his films with a variety of ethnicities, I don't think one group was lampooned any more than the other. Shut the fuck up and be entertained or... don't. Simple. Don't watch it/fall into the plot-holes/cry. It's easy to walk away from the summer season, but if you do want to participate, I think you have to dial down the rhetoric and get over the fact that Spielberg et al won't let you write that Transformers sequel for them...
June 24, 2009, 4:56 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Used the work "Art" in reference to Orci and Kurtzman and I'd rather not achieve success at the cost of having that success mean that my "societal influence" is through writing a 200 million dollar piece of shit that will no doubt make 1 billion worldwide because there are that many fucking retards like you out there that will gorge on this shit like Knowles at an all you can eat buffet even though I have to give Harry credit for trashing this garbage even though that's because the studio probably didn't cut him a large enough check.<br> <br>Through their contributions Orci and Kurtzman only help to drive North American cinema into the ground by reinforcing the misconceptions of idiotic Hollywood executives who think that you need to spend the gross national product of a small country on a pile of garbage, directed by an ADD juvenile delinquent hack with severe arrested development issues and written by three chimps that write their scripts using the highly intellectual process of shoving their fingers up their assholes and finger painting the script on the wall as Uncle Spielberg takes a picture of it before showing it to ILM and saying "DO THAT!".<br> <br>But it's not Shakespeare and I should just shut my brain off, right? It's just about robots that turn into stuff so I shouldn't expect anything in regards to thematic subtext or characterization, right? I should just buy my ticket and make sure I have a bib to catch my drool as ILM's effects reel and Megan Fox's skanky ass parades in front of me for two hours, right? No thanks and expecting me to do so is like expecting Jews to go on vacation at Auschwitz and enjoy it.<br> <br>In closing I'm glad that you enjoy paying good money to be treated like a moron and that's because you are one. Fuck you.
June 24, 2009, 4:57 a.m. CST
by theycallmemrtibbs
nuff said
June 24, 2009, 4:59 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Just to pick you up on: 'These mother fuckers have achieved more in 10 minutes of their lives than any of you fat pieces of shit will achieve in a life-time.' There's no point arguing about the QUANTITY of achievement, it's the QUALITY that counts. Which is why Jean Vigo's four short movies are a bigger cultural achievement than 2,497 hours of THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. I personally think that Lucas and Cameron have achieved a lot. They have created mythologies that are still ringing round our heads - even if we don't like EVERYTHING they've done. But to say that the world is a better, richer place because films my Michael Bay and Stephen Sommers exist - well there my friend you lost me. By your logic, any film deserves applause because someone got off their ass and made it.
June 24, 2009, 5:01 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
I am whining because I seriously believe that this shit (TF2) should NOT be endured, 1) because it doesn't care about character or story in any meaningful way, and 2) because it has a rotten heart that wants to make $ off kids and doesn't care how it does so.
June 24, 2009, 5:02 a.m. CST
by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR
This site gets worse and worse every fucking day!!!! I can't believe your trying to boycott this film? That's pathetic Harry, let us the diehard film lovers decide for ourselves if it's worth it. You love alot of shitty movie's, why can't other people too? Not saying this movie is crap, cause i have yet to see it. But Harry...really a boycott?
June 24, 2009, 5:08 a.m. CST
by eveelcapitalist
So I hear there's a moment which makes Obama look like an asshole, wanting to sacrifice LeBouf to the Decepticons. Is that what it comes down to for you, Harry? Making the Chosen One look bad? Can't have that, can we.
June 24, 2009, 5:10 a.m. CST
by pleasedont
Never EVER commented before on this site, but had to respond. Joshuavance1701: I know you're right, YOU know you're right. In fact, it's obvious to most casual observers of this site that the talk-backers (especially the fervently vicious 'regulars') have no real life to speak of, and no real talents (hell, most of their comments criticizing Harry's bad writing look as if they themselves were turned out by retards). But there's a group of us out here (and it's growing…not exponentially, mind you, but slow and steady) who are entertained by these 'talkbackers'. They have become our circus geeks. So don't get yourself all bent out of shape over them, and for God's sake, don't challenge them to 'accomplish' anything! A few might actually try, and then what would happen to the society at large? We shutter to think of the consequences of THAT one! These people exist for one reason, and one reason only: to entertain through their ignorance. So, to challenge the validity of their comments at any level is futile. Back to stealth mode.
June 24, 2009, 5:15 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Josh, just read your whole post - god that is so offensive. No wonder you didn't find TF2 offensive! So, if you don't want anyone who hasn't made a movie to criticise one... er, what are you doing on this site? This site where the viewing public opine about films, as it is their right to do. And Tinsel: that's totally fine if you want to decide for yourself, but you gotta understand that this site is all about reviews, in which someone who has seen the film writes about it so that someone who hasn't can decided whether to go see it. Not exactly a mind-blowing concept, hm? (Or maybe you guys just don't like it when the predominant opinion is against a film you like, or want to like.)
June 24, 2009, 5:20 a.m. CST
by Grievey
Fuck the children. The film was a great popcorn flick. I saw it in a large group tonight with about three black guys included and they didn't know what the big deal was about the twins. <BR><BR> One of them actually wondered why a bunch of white critics were crying on the behalf of blacks, as if to say "Don't show this to them, they can't handle it."<BR><BR> Dunno anything that could be more racist than that.
June 24, 2009, 5:27 a.m. CST
by Mysterious_Volvo
They all faced the public embarassment of saying ''we'r going to be in the movie business'' both Knowles and those jealous fuckers at chud. and now, we hear not a word about any of it. HAHAHAHAHAHA you stupid wankers.
June 24, 2009, 5:27 a.m. CST
by quantize
people will slurp it up like the cock sucking shitheads they are.
June 24, 2009, 5:28 a.m. CST
by BendersShinyAss
I love that you came to talk but it's like a mouse walking into a circle of cats. sure you might have their attention, but one of those fuckers will pounce and as soon as the smell of blood hits the others noses you'll be torn to shreds. and the cats that were willing to hear the plight of the lowly mouse will have no choice but to 'sigh'. <p>that said, man star trek was fucking insane cool. my friends and i still talk about it - as in, prime conversation always..... can't wait for the next one. but please don't just do more of the same. really stretch your wings on the next one... it is after all, star trek, and i'd hate to think the first one was just a fluke...
June 24, 2009, 5:29 a.m. CST
by HerbSewell
just saw it in korea today. sfx were good, for the most part, really fake looking in others. this move is made for kids, i'm 37, not made for me. be prepared to correct tons of geographical errors in this film, as Bay shits all over the atlas, from the location of the pyramids, to the Smithsonian. I can overlook some things for the sake of the plot but to have our heroes walk out of the Smithsonian and into the desert is just insane beyond words. no explanation given. see it on imax or dont see it at all, you won't enjoy it.
June 24, 2009, 5:31 a.m. CST
by juanmaminx
Harry,are you serious about this shit about Lucas being racist? come on,and then you keep on writing great about Frank Miller or Robert Rodriguez,....those are really racist & misogynistic.And don't say that this kind of movies,Lucas ones ,are fore children,because movies like 300,Sin city are the same but for 30 year old ones.So...come on.It looks like something personal
June 24, 2009, 5:33 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
Actually Gorilla I havent given my opinion on the film Transformers one way or the other, I saw it, whether I liked it or not isn't really relevant to the point of small dicks like this Charles Thomas avergageJoe ass munch that presumes to have an opinion about films and has never directed a successful shit in the toilet, much less a summer tent-pole film. <p> Liking or disliking a film is irrelevent. It's called behaving like a human being towards your fellow human beings, and not some turgid fuck face like Charles bastard up there insulting someone that makes a living doing what he loves like Bob Orci. Hey Chuck you puke faced piece of shit, no one GIVES a shit you felt intellectually violated by the film. That's the whole point here. The fucking internet gives voice to those that simply. don't. fucking. matter. <p> Oh but my how they creep out from every nook and cranny throwing their pig shit faced little opinions around with a sense of ENTITLEMENT. Now Charles you pedantic half-baked piece of shit, you may kindly wrap your car around a tree and burn and rot in hell.
June 24, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST
by juanmaminx
I know that this won't be read by Harry...but needed to say it since a long time
June 24, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST
by jsarnold513
Seriously, props to you for having the guts to come on here and face up to angry critics. That takes huge freakin' balls and I think we can all respect that, regardless of what we think of this movie. Personally, I'm holding out hope for this one and will see it in the next couple of days. The first one was fun with its groan inducing moments (actually saw it twice in the theatres and bought the DVD), and I'm checking this one out based on that and my love of the 80s toys, comics, and cartoon. I honestly haven't seen much of your other stuff, but I'm hoping what you wrote made it into the final cut and blows me away. Hopefully the rest of the movie will too. The reviews and most recent trailers have me a little unsure about it though...
June 24, 2009, 5:36 a.m. CST
by BendersShinyAss
I should be jealous of drug dealers, prostitutes and country western singers. But I'm not because they contribute nothing of worth to our society just like Orci and Kurtzman. <p> dude, drugs are great - its the users who have the problem. prostition (while i heed my fathers advice never to pay for it) is an honest buck and could well be a deterant to rapists. Country music... sure it's shit, but it has it's fans. what do you listen too?
June 24, 2009, 5:38 a.m. CST
by theycallmemrtibbs
Protest everything about it. <p> You can start by taking down the Transformer side banners that pop up when you first log in on this site. <p> Let's face it Harry... You set out to hate this movie months before it was released. <p> What? None of you never watched a Godzilla movie? They weren't Oscar award winning either but they sure were fun. And the special effects were NO WHERE near what they are able to do nowadays. <p> Transformers is based on a goofy kid cartoon, I expected a goofy ass movie with the first one as well as a even more ridiculous sequel. <p> What is the point of Aintitcoolnews, when "cool" shit gets bashed around here every two minutes? <p> SUMMER BLOCKBUSTERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOUD AND RIDICULOUS---yes even Batman Returns! <p> Here you have a movie with giant robots, shit blowing up everywhere and a hot chick. I thought you guys were geeks? You guys just sound old and bitter. <p> If this movie came out lets say 15 or 20 years ago before you could spew hatred all over the internet, you guys would've been creaming in your pants for it. <p> You guys are jaded, Don't believe me? Watch what happens with Avatar, 90 percent of the talkbackers are gonna hate that to.
June 24, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST
by ganymede3010
For those who haven't seen it yet, and are hardcore Transformers fans. Prepare that experience that agonizing feeling you suffered after walking out of the Phantom Menace, only a 1000 times worst.
June 24, 2009, 5:42 a.m. CST
by petergrifin
,Everone will love this moive if if they just go to seeit and stiop being so stupid becase its best moviei ever saw and its best choise of all the movies so shut fuck up then .!you dont knwo what your saying about and you proberly likr moveis about , danceirs and stufdents and is a joke for you to speek about thismovie bcease you dont know what what your saying about doyou then ?stop to say these stupid things about racist becase its fukcing lie reely so shut fuck up then !i see it in egnland when im visits my dad and nobody of england did cheer at end but i did for long time cheer at theend becase im proud to be amerincan and if you ar eporoud to be ameican then you will have to watch this moive becase if if you dont you ar e not patroit becase its about america is best country of world and nichale bay is best directing in world for actoin and esploions andspecail affects !so go to fuckingsee it then !
June 24, 2009, 5:42 a.m. CST
by ganymede3010
June 24, 2009, 5:45 a.m. CST
by quantize
ah you got that cock out of your mouth long enough to type more retarded dribble...please let us know if in fact this is a genius bit of Borat style comedy or you're genuinely the aborted fuckhead dropkick you sound like.
June 24, 2009, 5:46 a.m. CST
by quantize
needs work.
June 24, 2009, 5:53 a.m. CST
by Projectedlight
If you think this will be terrible, don't FUCKING SEE IT. That's the only way to send a message to the studios. Money is the only language they speak.
June 24, 2009, 5:53 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
Are peoples hopes and prayers so pinned on a movie that it can affect them psychologically in such a manner? Is that truly possible? If so, isn't that something worthy of discussion in and of itself? The Psychological implications? <p> I've never in my entire life felt so utterly dissapointed by a film that I couldn't sleep over it. That's actually sad and worthy of empathy someone could experience such a plight. <p> CRUSHED by The Phantom Menace? Maybe these films here aren't the true issues here, but rather, the reactions to them. <p> I go to the God damn movies to be entertained. ENTERTAINED. Escapist shit you know? I don't seek intellectual enlightenment or spiritual edification, and frankly, if people do, there's a serious emotional problem involved. Help is available professionally. If it's intellectual enlightenment you seek read a book, trust me they still print them. If it's spiritual edification attend church. Attending films for anything other than a sensory experience is assinine. People have WAAAAAY too high of expectations and projecting their own personal views rather than simply accepting something for it's own merits at face value and either enjoying it or not enjoying it. Anything else stinks of self-ingratiation.
June 24, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
By settling for less and accosting others for not doing likewise, they accomplish the lowing of standards which is why a large portion of the USA's population now thinks that TORTURE is justified. It's our standards as a society, as a culture and as a people that made the USA the shining beacon of civilization and it is people like you and joshuavance1701 who are driving not only cinema but the quality of our life into the ground.<br> <br>You know what people like me accomplish by bitching and complaining? Progress. A word that regressive asswipes like the two of you wouldn't know the fucking meaning of because you're to busy watching ASS in a movie theatre. In relation to cinema, it's was the filmmakers of the 60's and 70's who railed against big budget generic Hollywood shit and created the greatest era in the history of North American cinema by not settling for less.<br> <br>pleasedont and joshuavance1701, YOU are what's wrong with society today as there are millions of retarded mongoloid fucksticks just like you and that's because your generation has been cowed with reality TV and gadgets. You have no taste and are too dumb to appreciate quality cinema and although not every movie has to be Citizen kane or The Seventh Seal there is no reason that a movie with a budget of 200 million dollars shouldn't be expected to have a reasonable intelligent, coherent screenplay written by people who have an IQ high enough to operate a spoon.<br> <br>By settling for less people like you reward mediocrity and ensure that Hollywood will continue as a trash factory and make movies that are insulting to anyone except for you and that's because you have a terminal case of teh stoopid.
June 24, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
Dude, I've had a webcomic reviewed on AICN. By your logic, I have more right to complain about Michael Bay than anyone who hasn't - but would still be miles behind Bay on the ladder. <p> You're using an odd logic, whereby each person on the pecking order is somehow more entitled (yet not entitled enough) to criticise a director. Right up until they hit Lucas level, and then (by virtue of their success) aren't open for criticism. </p> <p> Oh, and I'm not trying to come across as a big-shot. I got a review up here, yet I earn a miniscule fraction in a year of what Michael Bay makes in ten minutes.
June 24, 2009, 5:58 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
So you're not a Patriot if you don't cheer that $200+ million was spent on a piece of shit film? <p> Hardly a surprise that people aren't patriotic given how much trouble your country is in financially.
June 24, 2009, 6:07 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
Just look at him, read his posts and really analyze how this prick sounds. <p> It's TRANSFORMERS you cocksucking moronic turgid piece of flotsam. Lowering standards?? Let me clarify for you so there's no mis-understanding fucker, it's TRANSFORMERS. It's a movie, about robots, that turn into cars. Do you get that through your fucking head? Your expectations are what is flawed asshole. Once again, it's TRANSFORMERS. Finally to re-iterate, it's TRANSFORMERS. <p> This isn't Lawrence of Arabia or Spartacus or Citizen Kane you anhedonic piece of shit, it's a film about ROBOTS that turn into CARS. Get that through your fucking head. I challenge YOU , or any screen-writer of the last 50 years to pen a screenplay worthy of Sir Lawrence Olivier about the premise of CARS that turn into ROBOTS. You God damn idiot. Your perpective is utterly skewed and simpleton. <p> As far as "My generation" and reality TV and gadgets. I was born in 1973 and I'm 36 years old and SAW Star Wars in the cinema in '77 you trisby 21 chromosome lacking fat mother fucker. You address me as MR. VANCE.
June 24, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST
by The Amazing G
I SURE LOVE BEIN' A TRANSFORMIN' ROBOT! SHEEEEEEEEEEEIT!!! what crack were they smoking when they thought that was a good idea?
June 24, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST
by Projectedlight
"I go to the God damn movies to be entertained. ENTERTAINED. Escapist shit you know? I don't seek intellectual enlightenment or spiritual edification, and frankly, if people do, there's a serious emotional problem involved. Help is available professionally. If it's intellectual enlightenment you seek read a book, trust me they still print them. If it's spiritual edification attend church. Attending films for anything other than a sensory experience is assinine. People have WAAAAAY too high of expectations and projecting their own personal views rather than simply accepting something for it's own merits at face value and either enjoying it or not enjoying it. Anything else stinks of self-ingratiation." Nice argument. Them books is smart becuz I herd it in skool!!! Not like mooviez, theyre all about love and relashonships and aliens and stuff! Never mind the fact that cinema HAS JUST AS MUCH POTENTIAL to inspire the mind and the soul as any other medium. Remember that: cinema is an ARTISTIC MEDIUM. People like me and the people you're arguing with BELIEVE IN CINEMA and its capability to touch us, and obviously you don't, because books are superior and films can't really reach greatness...why exactly? Because they have already and they can continue to get greater and greater and increase in artistic accomplishment IF and ONLY IF we fight the battle against lowered expectations and intelligence, as epitomized by colossal cultural black holes like this film, NOW.
June 24, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST
by The Amazing G
June 24, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST
by ganymede3010
The Presidents liaison who was a bumbling fucking idiot was the stereotypical image that the far right perpetually depict. He was portrayed as an anti-military pacifist. Fuck you Michael Bay. I can't wait until Avatar kicks your ass into the sirius star system and beyond.
June 24, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST
by Projectedlight
I'm not dismissing popcorn or escapist movies. I love them as much as the next guy, probably more (really), provided that they're good. But there's nothing good about film's like this. In fact, a culturally and morally reprehensible film like this is anti-good.
June 24, 2009, 6:11 a.m. CST
by barnaby jones
He should've, but he didn't.
June 24, 2009, 6:12 a.m. CST
by Media Messiah
What is Hollywood smoking these days???
June 24, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
It's called having the wisdom to not walk into a filom called TRANSFORMERS expecting it to "have the potential to move me intellectually or spiritually." Let me make it abundantly clear for you as well. It's called TRANSFORMERS. It's a film about robots that turn into cars. Save your faux arm-chair critiques for the Independent film channel and movies that have the "potential". <p> That's my whole fucking point here. If you expected to walk into a movie called TRANSFORMERS expecting ANYTHING but what was served up, you are not only ill-advised you are a sheer idiot.
June 24, 2009, 6:18 a.m. CST
by genrefanboy
....so it gets a ridiculous review. <p> Harry you sure this is not your ST review instead as that was a massive POS. TF2 is nowhere near as bad and all the negatives are ludicrous as its only designed to be a lightweight summer popcorn flick. <p> There are zero racial stereotypes in this, remember how all the robots learnt everything they know from the WWW well obviously the 2 your offended by goggled rappers or street gangs! <p> Geez how hard is it to join the dots. Everyone knows if TF2 gave AICN an exclusive or advanced showing and or lots of freebies the reviews are suddenly positive!!
June 24, 2009, 6:22 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Only a movie about a guy dressed as a bat fighting a guy dressed like a clown and, yet, Christopher Nolan was able to create a movie that was rich in character while layering subtext and meaning to those concepts while you sound like a stupid fucking cunt that would prefer Batman & Robin. Take your head out of your asshole as you could use the oxygen you fucking brain dead pleb.
June 24, 2009, 6:22 a.m. CST
by KillDozer
is the reason Star Trek was good. Without him, you get the likes of this pile of shit.<p>I can only imagine who would've been peeing on whom in Star Trek if he hadn't been involved...
June 24, 2009, 6:25 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
From the South.
June 24, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
June 24, 2009, 6:30 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
The Dark Knight was a film about a guy that dressed up as a Bat to fight a guy that puts makeup on to be a clown. Let's keep some perpspective here. The parts that make up the whole are BY FAR as ridiculous as cars that turn into robots. "Layering subtext and meaning to the concept?" You are a fucking imbecile. Listen to you prick, "I found enlightenment in a movie, I learned about subtext and characterization, innuendo, sardonism, irony, metaphor, and situational context. Batman was nirvana because he was morally ubiquitous and grey, and Joker well, he was clearly the bad guy I could root against, because darker themed movies are by virtue thematically adult in their execution. " <p> Congratulations you small fucker, your parents FAILED you. <p> Now go watch WATCHMEN dick face. While you're at it, kill yourself and conserve some oxygen for the remaining 6 billion of us.
June 24, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
Right or wrong, you're a fucking prick. Wanting people to kill themselves is crossing the line, you utter twat!
June 24, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST
by The Amazing G
first we get the Twilight movies with their Mormon subtext and now this?
June 24, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
But this little patsy pasty fat cunt having the luxury of hiding behind the anonymity of the internet as he spews his vitriol is entirely indicative of small cunts completely enabled by their mommies. <p> You have that luxury Charles you fat cunt, however, I can unequivocally assure you my fat little friend, if proximity and your anonymity werent your cushions, I'd knock your fucking head off. You can take that to the bank.
June 24, 2009, 6:39 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
I'm guessing that you voted for McCain and Palin. It must be wonderful going through life oblivious to any deeper meaning to anything nor even gaining a greater knowledge of ones self and the world around you. You are MTV, you are Coca-cola, you are McDonalds, you are a mainstream drone content with the shit that is fed to you like a mushroom in the darkness of your own ignorance.
June 24, 2009, 6:45 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
You piece of shit I'm a Democrat and have voted Democrat since 1992 in every election how about you fuck face? Not only are you ignorant you are a presumptuous asshole that falls back to assuming and by virtue TRULY makes an ass of yourself. <p> I'm college educated fucker how about you? What do you have? I work for the Federal government and sell paintings fucker what do you have, what do you do? What do you bring to the table other than your ass shaped mouth? <p> You are SMALL, very small and lacking in significance. You are a failure of a human being and get on a talkback to spread your self misery. You represent everything that is fundamentally flawed with this society today you EMO sack of shit.
June 24, 2009, 6:47 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Just look at how he resorts to threats of violence just because he can't shout down someone with a different or opposing view. Good thing that there are millions of dumb shits like him lining up to put more money into Bay's pocket thus fueling his lifestyle of hookers and blow. I wonder how joshuavance1701's head doesn't cave in from the atomic levels of stoopid this shit flinging chimp has in his brain.
June 24, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST
by CeejayNightwing
"The amount of foul language popping out of their mouths is astonishing, especially with the shit, bitch, muther..., ass, pussy, etc... What the hell is this stuff doing in a TRANSFORMERS movie? Anyone?" Well dude, this is 2009 not 1966 or 1986 and that's how the youth speak! You ever watch The WIre? Sorry but its a TF film set in the now and from the MTV to the digital radio, the hip hop, the R&B and the dead studio gangsters, the Niggaz and the Wiggaz.. this is how they speak and act and how the youth around the world adopt it as their own. Here in the UK every kid talks that way and I'm BLACK! It's not a black thing, its an American street culture thing so calling it racist is being short sighted and simply looking to make it out to be worst than it is! The movie is the best popcorn flick of the summer and as entertaining as the first if you enjoyed that. If you didn't enjoy the first movie then there will be NOTHING for you this time around either. I wish people would stop trying to make out this film promised so much and delivered so little, it did exactly what it promised to do for those who ere entertained the last time. Same crew, same cast, same writers and director.. what here you hates expecting to be different about the movie this time then? More fool you!
June 24, 2009, 6:56 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
You're just a spoonfed little fuck that mommy over-indulged and daddy didn't play with and you relate to Optimus Prime as a father figure clearly because your parents failed rearing you hence the disrespectful spoiled cunt you turned out to be. <p> See in the real world when you get away from World of Warcraft you virginal cunt, when someone of modest celebrity graces you with their presence when they don't have to, there is a behavioral etiquette called courtesy wherein you address that individual with all the respect and courtesy you would God damn want for yourself, and not resort to attacking said celebrity with your piece of shit hyperbolic rhetoric as you did to Bob Orci. His celebrity status is actually irelevent, he is a person you tired cunt and even if you LOATHE the results of the mans efforts, what the fuck gives you the right to lambast him in a public forum like a small penised shithead when all you have to say to the man is "I didn't care for your product" and I daresay he would get the fucking hint. You owe Bob Orci an apology you spineless cowardly mother fucker. bnecause everything you have said here in these talkbacks you DAMN sure wouldn't say to any recipients face. That's the bottom fucking line here.
June 24, 2009, 6:57 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
***** and a rave review. Where's the AICN review of it?
June 24, 2009, 6:57 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
You're both nucking futs!!!!
June 24, 2009, 7 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
in person. Except "Too Soon." That just confuses people because they don't know the context.
June 24, 2009, 7 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
It must be terrible to have to constantly feel as though your worth as a human being is determined just how fancy your shit is or how much money you have. It's also typical that you are a liar claiming to be a Democrat when everything you have said clearly indicates that you are a Conservative i.e. greedy, selfish, stupid and short sighted. It's also sadly pathetic that you need possessions or status to make you feel more like a man. What's worse is the way you cheerlead someone like Michael Bay and his script monkeys for raking in cash making garbage that won't stand the test of time. Orson Well's died broke but he will always be remembered for Citizen Kane long after Bay is dead and I hope that you enjoy what you think is important in life because you can't take it with you when you die.
June 24, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
It just pisses me off when failure to launch fat little fingered piece of shit assholes like this clown sit at their fucking computer and talk to someone any fucking way they want with no regard or courtesy or RESPECT to them as a person. Bob Orci didn't fucking deserve that shit regardless of what someone thinks of the mans movies. Words hurt mother fuckers. Words can fucking hurt and people like this fat piece of shit Charles or whoever should be more fucking conscious of that when someone visits these forums to get feedback from the "fans". This bastard attacked Bob Orci personally and that was completely irrelevent to Bob Orci's writing or screenplays.
June 24, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST
by quantize
and get fuckin serious..these films are ABSOLUTELY aimed at that age group...and the sexual content and language was totally inappropriate. Hey put whatever the fuck you want in a film, but the ratings system needs to be HONEST. THAT"s the point
June 24, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
the Sambots are okay. <P> I just entered the goddamned Twilight Zone.
June 24, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST
by Geomancer21
June 24, 2009, 7:08 a.m. CST
by Ballbag
June 24, 2009, 7:14 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Josh. Clearly you are a Liberal because you have empathy even for those you disagree with. <P> Charles. Clearly you too are a Liberal because you are rationally passionate and you write intelligently. <P> Verdict: Continue, both, to do what you are doing. This is a free country. Our Grand Ayatollah Knowles enforces the tradition of free speech. Bob Orci is a big boy and has thick skin. If he feels offended he will lash back. He is aware of talkbacks' unruliness and brutal honesty. <P> You have been fatwa'd.
June 24, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Typical conservative behavior of claiming your opponent of everything that you are. Also, I'll talk shit to Orci all I like as he and Bay drive North American cinema even further down the shitter with every ridiculously expensive piece of trash that they make while a cock slobbering 36 year old dickless pussyface flames me for not being as dumb and easily entertained as him. College huh? I know they have affirmative action for minorities in the States but I didn't know they did that for retards. How much did your crash helmet cost, eh Corky?
June 24, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST
by dailysportspages
Are generally self loathing closet racists themselves. They just cant admit it. <br> Was it racist when the original animated Jazz was voiced by Scatman Crothers in full jive ebonics? <br> Of course not... unless you really just disliked hearing how a large percentage of the black community actually speak. <br> Of course the real truth as to why Whites find depictions of Blacks talking in that fashion has to do more with how they want black people to act, talk, live, be. <br> And wanting another culture to be more like your own and less like theirs can only be one thing... racism.
June 24, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
So you think Al Jolson in blackface is okay?
June 24, 2009, 7:19 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
And you think portraying Jews as money grubbers with big noses is okay? Because judging from your argument, there's no such thing as stereotyping and it's anything goes.
June 24, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
But pricks like that just don't encourage more visits from people inside the industry. This is supposed to be a website and forum that celebrates the art of film. A screen-writer visits and he gets THAT fucking reception? Big boy or not it just shows what lowest common denominator frequents this website and actually Harry should institute a polcy of fucking BANNING people that arbitrarily bash visiting celebrities. <p> Here we have a fucking perfect opportunity to interact with someone that writes screenplays for major motion pictures and can hear and learn about the process involved , choices made, and he gets a reception like that from a pice of shit that has never done anything with his life? It's disrespectful, and my Grandmother would have slapped a stupid ass like that across the cheek.
June 24, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
What are your thoughts about the recent Burger King controversy? You think the Mexicans had a legitimate gripe? I mean, they are on average a smaller people, so why shouldn't they be portrayed as a veritable midget next to a white cowboy, right?
June 24, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST
by dailysportspages
Its even more retarded if the "racism" would be ok if the movie was not aimed at children. <br> So racism is ok, just not for our kids?<br> And i find it hard for someone who runs a website which frequently runs articles by its writers (including Harry) talking about all sorts of obscene stuff (not obscene to me of course) like cum covered pussy lips and dick blood and pussy juice, etc... <br> I didnt know that this site had an R rating? <br> You would think that Harry would think twice about all of his obscenities if he knew how many kids read his site? <br> Its not like constant attention to movies like Spiderman, Star Wars, Transformers, Ironman, Batman, etc... is something that is made and marketed to attract CHILDREN! <br><br> Fucking hypocrite.
June 24, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
in the New Trek talkbacks. He's probably still wiping off the cum from those encounters.
June 24, 2009, 7:25 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
should swap face slapping stories!
June 24, 2009, 7:26 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I'm off to the Mousavi rally.
June 24, 2009, 7:31 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
I'm sure he's had lots of practice when he goes to see his parents and his father starts screaming at him "FARTING FUCKING BLACK HUMPING ROBOTS YOU MOTHERFUCKER, WHEN YOUR MOTHER TOLD ME SHE WAS PREGNANT I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE PUNCHED HER IN THE FACE AND KICKED HER IN THE STOMACH UNTIL SHE ABORTED, NOW LOOK AT THE SHAME I HAVE TO FUCKING ENDURE!!!" before he starts breathing into a paper bag filled with spray paint as his mother starts in "THE TRUTH IS THAT WHEN I WAS GIVING BIRTH I ACCIDENTALLY SHIT ON THE TABLE, THE DOCTOR THEN MISTOOK THAT SHIT FOR LOOKING SO MUCH LIKE YOUR FATHER, WRAPPED YOU UP AND HANDED YOU TO ME. I WAS SO FUCKED UP ON MEDS THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE THE REAL BABY THAT FELL OUT OF MY VAG ONTO THE FLOOR AND WAS LATER SWEPT INTO THE TRASH. HAD I KNOWN THAT UNCLESAMBOTS WAS GOING TO BE THE RESULT I WOULD HAVE STUCK A SHOTGUN UP MY SNATCH AND PULLED THE MOTHERFUCKING TRIGGER".<br> <br>I can only imagine that this is mild compared to what happens at the Bay household at thanksgiving.
June 24, 2009, 7:37 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
To get where he is considering that I've seen letters written by John Graziano post car crash that are more coherent and more insightful than anything this thundering D-bag has written.
June 24, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST
by joshuavance1701
See the diffeerence is Bob Orci can improve his shit screen plays, you, you on the other hand, are stuck being the small, lonely, UGLY person inside that you are. Forever, and ever, and ever. How must that feel?
June 24, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST
by Right Bastard
Ever seen Short Round in temple of doom? (or goonies, for that matter?) But, you know, asian stereotypes are o.k.
June 24, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST
by ZombieHeathLedger
It's been crazy to me to see people kiss Orci's ass just because he graced the TB's with his presence. Glad to see you weren't intimidated or starstruck (unlike another AICN reviewer) and called TRANFORMERS 2 out on it's racist undertones and other shortcomings. Kudos to you, sir.
June 24, 2009, 7:47 a.m. CST
by dailysportspages
Blackface = Act used by whites to imitate the common black slave, most of the time for ridicule. <br> Obviously something that is meant to offend blacks. <br><br> Moneygrubbing Jews = Fear of Jews control over major elements of power in society. <br> Again, obviously used in order to offend Jews and/or scare people into hating Jews. <br><br> Ebonics = HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE TALK. Its everywhere, specially in big cities/urban areas. Turn on your TV... listen to music. Hell if you are a White middle aged parent, guess what, there is a good chance your KIDS probably talk like that too.<br> Look, i didnt enjoy those parts of the movie as much as some people did, but i dont think it was racist. Just not that funny other than in about 2 or 3 moments. They went overkill, as Bay tends to do.<br> This isnt the same as blackface... because Black Urban Vernacular is part of our society, its inescapable. Its not even a black thing anymore... Whites have co-opted it and use it more than Blacks. (simple due to the larger amount of Whites than Blacks in America)<br> And its not just whites, Latinos/Asians/Indians/Arabs/Jews, etc... ive heard all sorts of diverse racial group speak exactly the same way as those two characters did.<br> Im sorry White people, i know you hate that your country is not "pure" anymore... but this is your Ameria now. A little blacker and browner than you may prefer. <br><br> Burger King = If that offends you, then you are a fucking retard. With apologies to all mentally challenged people. <br> A retard is a person who is of right mind but is so warped by bullshit that he might as well be mentally challenged.<br> My father is Mexian, and my mother is from El Salvador, but i consider myself Mexican... i did not find that ad insulting on any level. <br> I also got the joke about "a little spicy mexican", it was great. <br> Most Mexican people arent even offended because of that part, they are offended due to the deep institutionalized homophobia of many Mexicans. And to them, that ad was filled with latent homo-eroticism. <br> And the other major group that is pissed about this is the Mexican government itself. <br> But that is because in their constitution it is illegal to use the flag in this type of fashion. They are VERY strict with things like desecration of their flag... its actually illegal in Mexico to drape it over yourself or use it in comedic entertainment like this. <br><br> This world, specially the US... is simply WAY too politically correct. <br> Its really really sad.
June 24, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
So you'll never know.
June 24, 2009, 7:54 a.m. CST
by buffywrestling
You guys stand up and call out the offensive shit that can damage the BOYS of today..... <p> *HUGE FUCKING EYEROLL* <p> Harry, sometimes your fucking scale of things is out of whack. Yes, it's a shit movie but ask yourself is it going to do any more damage than has already been done?? <p> Mori was right when he said that this is the congolmeration of what box office fanboys have been asking for in the last decade. And the hyped up reviews bitch beasting, blowing shit up is a part of that. You have to realize that you are a part of the disease. <p> The rub is that you can't change. Rememeber when Drew had a kid? And he started reflecting that conciousness into his reviews? Dickwad Talkbackers tore him apart; saying he "lost" something meanwhile none of them supposing that he actually GAINED another perpective. <p> Are you gaing a perpective, Harry?
June 24, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST
by dailysportspages
Then you need to familiarize yourself with one of the worlds greatest literary works by Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra. <br> As this was a classic take on the Don Quixote/Sancho Panza dynamic.
June 24, 2009, 8 a.m. CST
by Roborob
Sure it is not shakespeare or will go down in movie history but it is fun and as much as I think an improvement over the original. I like Michael Bay movies and I didn't notice the two and a half hours. The action is fine and I agree that I dislike the parents but the twins or the Balls did not anger me mind you I didn't find Jar Jar Binks to be as bad as some would have me believe. The worst film ever, no I say 2001 is the worst. Worst sequal, No, I say AVP2 is worst. No this is just another big summer movie it won't win any oscars beyond fx but it isn't the worst film this year. And to all those who hate Michael Bay, why go the see his movies? Leave that to those of us who LIKE his movies.
June 24, 2009, 8 a.m. CST
by JiggahJu
Go to Hitfix and read what Drew has to say. After I read Drew's review it became abundantly clear that Harry's review is amatuerish to say the least.
June 24, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST
by Arteska
Is that there is not ONE SECOND of this film that isn't completely informed by what we saw in the first installment. If you saw that movie, you are getting precisely more of the same with this one, in a larger helping. Everyone is picking at the margins again because there is nowhere else to go to slam this anymore than the whole endeavor was slammed the last time around. But yeah it is too long by like a half-life. James Cameron might have dibs on my eyeballs but Bay destroyed my bladder.
June 24, 2009, 8:03 a.m. CST
by Porrohman
Please post more often.Nice creative insults.I might copy/paste some to use in the future. And you have a point.If someone like that visits this place,regardless of wether you like their movie or not,you just don`t talk to them like that. Unless its those fuckin knuckle draggers that made meet the spartans/date movie etc.. then all bets are off. :-)
June 24, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST
by FleshMachine
and dimwitted.
June 24, 2009, 8:08 a.m. CST
by FleshMachine
lol! like it's a fucking disease. Your're so fucking white.
June 24, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST
by Relugus
Watch these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN5RkRYsru0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2w8_37549M&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tffbekYOh04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClXzsZBGMA&feature=channel And then tell me Transformers is dumb. Its Bay who makes it dumb, its all in how you approach TF.
June 24, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST
by kafka07
for real? This is in the movie?? wow
June 24, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST
by Relugus
...is the way the robots are treated by Bay. They are always secondary to the humans. That's the really racist thing in ROTF, Bay's attitude to robots.
June 24, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST
by Giario
June 24, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST
by Davidhessstation
Transformers 2 or Terminator 4?
June 24, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST
by Yeti
Cause that really drives me bat shit. Fucking Robots.
June 24, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST
by ScotFree
So I can review it...and because I haven't had my site up long enough, I'm not certified, so I have to pay for this. I hope its better than I've heard.
June 24, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
I've been hanging around here since before that kid was born. What have I been doing with myself? Why am i still here? Good grief.
June 24, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST
by ominus
i am sorry sir,but i am going to ignore your pitiful prompt to boycott the film (i wonder why,didnt u get a free ticket for this too?) and laugh at your pathetic turd for a review. <p>I am very glad that your site doesnt have enough public power to influence the majority of the moviegoers.aicn maybe be the no1 cine news site,but like hell isnt going to turn people away from transformers because Harry says so. <p>Like the adv says,keep walking,or in your situation mr Harry keep eating.
June 24, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST
by JamesT
Where is the outrage for the good people of West Virginia who are depicted as inbred cannibals in the Wrong Turn franchise?
June 24, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST
by Kenshiro_187
All Lindleloff, I dont know why JJ has these two dipshits around? Maybe they are good at sucking Abram's dick and getting him smarties.
June 24, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
thats a shame
June 24, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST
by midgarddragon
"I have all the seasons on dvd and have seen every episode, and you know what? They're fuckin' goofy as hell. " And there's the thing fanboys will never remember. The source material WAS CRAP! The most we can hope for from the film is some great action scenes, and almost EVERY critic who's trashing the film has taken time out to say that the action shots were outstanding. Good, all I'm there for. It's not going to win a Best Pic Oscar, nor should it (not that The Academy ever really rewards the best film, since WALL-E didn't make it last year) but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy some offensive over-the-top action shit. Tools.
June 24, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST
by Underoos Hero
June 24, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
sounds fucking atrocious!
June 24, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST
by LaneMyersClassic
C'mon Harry! You are all over the map!
June 24, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
and its "liberal media"
June 24, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
No, The Rock is.
June 24, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST
by mazuzu
both are racists turds... go educate youselves... www.racebending.com
June 24, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST
by Potatino
How many time have we all read a review by Harry just teeming with obscene misogynistic bullpoop? You know talking about how sexual this or that movie made him feel how it made him jizz you know the drill! The last talkback comment I read from him a while had a zany homophobic comment about how he and someone else jack each other off while looking lovingly in each others eyes. Honestly read any review where Harry is trying to be all manly and stuff and just roll your eyes at all the amount of misogynistic sexual poop that that he publishes... Oh yeah and how about all those wacky sexually laced intros to scriptgirls column boobtube.. oh Harry you slay me! In closing I do not think Harry can take the moral highground, not when it comes to rude words and misogynistic behavour without seeming like a hypocrite. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
June 24, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST
by HarryWannaBe
Yet another movie it's silly to expect character development from. Who in their right minds wants to see a TRANSFORMERS movie with character development? This isn't GOOD WILL HUNTING for fuck's sake! It's GIANT FUCKING ROBOTS KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF EACH OTHER!!! No more, no less. Let's stop expecting great acting and a touching story out of movies like this.
June 24, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST
by tiger69357
To long, no character devlopment extremely noisy. CGI so much it looks like a cartoon. Looks just like a kid movie. I have heard all bad from many!bay is ruining Hollywood. CGI is the only thing he can do!
June 24, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST
by Sick Fixx
Why can't we make fun of blacks without being called racists? Fifteen years ago, we could walk up to one and nickname them 'Kool and the Gang' even if there was no gang around, and everything WAS Kool! With that being said, I'm not interested in watching Transformers flatulate and urinate. I don't need my childhood raped any more than it already has been, thank you! But geez, Harry, didn't like Wolverine. Didn't like Terminator. Do you and the Aint it Cool folks like ANYTHING any more?
June 24, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST
by Freakemovie
That seems to be the response from a lot of people to the bad reviews: "Hey, what were you expecting? It's a popcorn movie about robots!" Valid point. Here's the thing though: it's not entertaining. It's long, boring, and yeah, offensive. Could've easily been cut down a half hour. When the action's not confusing, it's repetitive. Etc. Very disappointing.
June 24, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST
by mattb68
Come on guys. You don't go into these movies expecting a "There Will be Blood" or "Let the Right One In" cinematic experience experience. These are big loud, slam-bang action movies that are meant to showcase your home theater system 5 months from now on Blu-ray. I routinely pop in the first one and skip to the action stuff just to flex my speakers and annoy the neighbors.
June 24, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST
by JackLucas
there really was a solid story in there amongst all of the horseshit. A story that, if properly handled, could have sustained two entire two hour films. The problem is that instead of spending quality time on that story and getting the characterizations of the newly introduced bots down solid, Bay tossed all character work out the window, slapped together a bunch of sloppy expositionary dialogue together that should have flowed naturally from a well told story given two films to form and flourish and padded out the rest of the horrorshow with dick and fart jokes any twelve year old with little to no imagination could have themselves thought up. It's really very sad. Had they truly given The Fallen a more thoroughly explained backstory (not to mention explaining to non-hardcor-Transformers fans just how and why the fuck it was that Megatron was subserviant to the guy) and given newly introduced bots like Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, etc. time to develop and shine, we could have had a very kick ass one two punch with a nice cliffhanger ending to this film leading into a third that tied things up with the Autobots leaving Earth after ultimately defeating the Decepticons. It would have been a great trilogy of films with enough open endedness for anyone to come in and carry on after that with a fresh, new approach. Unfortunately, I guess at the end of the day what I am forgetting is the very thing that I myself and so many others had been using as a crutch for the franchise... it's based on a cartoon. That's all Bay knew and apparently until he gets his ass removed from these films (fat chance considering the box office this thing is going to clock) that is all we are going to get from the motherfucker.
June 24, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
Noting the obvious insanity of this ridiculous Talkback. "Did I just enter the goddamned Twilight Zone?"
June 24, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST
by JackLucas
that was exactly what I was thinking as I read Harry's "review". But if there is one thing I have personally noticed about Harry over the past year or so since he got hitched, is that his overall personality seems to have been affected by the tragedy. I mean, the fucking guy loved Twilight for fuck's sake. Liking Godzilla or Armageddon is one thing. But fucking Twilight?
June 24, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
I think its well-known that a lot of the stupider things in the Transformers films are the brainchild of Michael Bay. So ease up on the Orci hate until we get a better story from him regarding whose choices were the farting robots and whatnot. <p> And honestly, the farting robot sounds like more of an aesthetic choice that was most likely Bay's. He looks at the finished shot and decides "Its not interesting enough, have that robot fart as it runs." That makes more sense to me than having a screenwriter write it. <p> Also, I think Orci already confirmed the Twins came from Bay's head and they had to integrate it into the script.
June 24, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST
by dioxholster
did i read this right? this is a family film right?
June 24, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST
by Sick Fixx
"Sex Toy! Where have you been?" "Where haven't I been?"
June 24, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST
by Muzzle
AyatollahSexyBack, ORCI CAN CRY IN HIS PILES OF MONEY.... by CharlesThomasMathews1978
June 24, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST
by fassbinder79
And I'm mixed race (black and white). Great fucking movie! Bought the bootleg this weekend. I don't think anyone can call themselves a true fan of the old Disney films and not like it. And actually I came away from it thinking it was considerably less racist than Gone With The Wind. Please fight as hard as you can to get it released. And if you ever need a comment from a brother about it to back you up I got your back. Its a great film! Really beautiful actually.
June 24, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST
by JackLucas
You give those guys JJ Abrams, you get Star Trek. You give them Michael Bay, you get this thing. I do think that these guys are trying to tell geek stories and do them justice. Ultimately I blame Spielberg for getting Bay involved in the first place. I mean, the fucking guys disses the shit out of Transformers when offered the project and now he has something like a 15% share of all movie related toy sales and other merchandise (as reported in a recent article on his financial rewards from becoming involved in the franchise). Bay is in it for NOTHING more than the money. He can try and claim that he has become a fan of the property all he wants. The shit playing out on the screen screams otherwise.
June 24, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST
by fassbinder79
sounds like its just bad and racist. Can't be down with that. And I didn't know that the Mudflap and Skids voices were done by WHITE actors. :( What the fuck are Bay and Spielberg thinking?
June 24, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST
by JackLucas
You are name checked in the flick.
June 24, 2009, 10 a.m. CST
by JackLucas
I really should go to bed.
June 24, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST
by fassbinder79
George Lucas actually wanted Glynn Turman to play Han Solo and the studio wouldn't let him because it would have meant that there would be an interracial relationship with Han and Leia. Lucas' significant other is also black: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=407130 No he's not racist.
June 24, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST
by arthurrex007
As for Barack Obama. In the movie he was mentioned during the decepticon invasion and how he went into an undergroung bunker for his protection. At least Bay had the decensy to save him. If he was a racist, Obama would of been blown up by megatron.
June 24, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST
by BILLY_BOOMSTICK
June 24, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST
by arthurrex007
You may have found the reason Billy! Maybe we should support Mr. Bay at least he has the balls like Roddenberry of showing real life in the guise of fiction.
June 24, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Good for you. This is some of your best work in awhile.
June 24, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST
by sambafreak13
...but I'm gonna get this on Netflix when it comes out, and literally just watch the action scenes...I really do want to see what they pulled off...as for the rest of it, why waste my time?
June 24, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST
by sambafreak13
...but I'm gonna get this on Netflix when it comes out, and literally just watch the action scenes...I really do want to see what they pulled off...as for the rest of it, why waste my time?
June 24, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST
by fassbinder79
That is some disturbing shit you've pointed out. Now I'm really bummed about this. I'm not the most politically correct person in the world but thats definitely gotta be on purpose. And he was a big McCain supporter. Man this depresses me. I just wish they could keep the politics out of a movie like this. Its supposed to be turn your brain off entertainment. I'm not looking for a pro Obama movie either. Just action and robot fights. This is really upsetting because I was very much looking forward to this film being a big action fan.
June 24, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST
by chuffsterUK
June 24, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST
by BILLY_BOOMSTICK
IMDB is reporting that Tom Kenny (white actor) voiced BOTH twins, but I've heard conflicting reports that Reno Wilson (an african american actor) voiced Mudflap and Kenny voiced Skids.... can someone tell me which is right?
June 24, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST
by liquids
heavy spoilers!! All the AICN reviewers ripped they shit outta this trashy ass fucking movie. AWESOME! I watched this shit online yesterday fucking horrible. Optimus kicks The Fallen's ASS in less then a FUCKING MINUTE!! WTF!!! Thats like Superman fighting Doomday and its lasting 1 fucking page. Thats like Goku fighting Freeza for 1 episode. Fucking horrible Bay is a master of action huh?? My fucking ass.. The forest fight was fucking weak. Good guy fights 3 get killed from BEHIND!! O wow the decepticons are so bad!! they have to stab in back to win.....literally. and its 3n1 wow there bad. O_o. Also all the money shots are in trailer excpet for scene where the big contruction robot forms. Now that was cool. I admit go ILM. and final desert battle is weak DONT BELIVE THE HYPE. its not 40 mintue fight more like 10.
June 24, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST
by NinjaRap
I thought only hardcore rightist wingnuts believed in that load of fucking bunk. This review just made me lose (more) respect for Knowles.
June 24, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST
by fassbinder79
Sorry, man. I'm a minority and I had absolutely no problems with the way Scatman did his voice work for the cartoon. And there isn't a gold tooth or "I can't read" moment in sight!
June 24, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST
by zinc_chameleon
Hi Harry...I'm an old poster here, since 1997. I'm interested: is is true that Megan Fox met Michael Turner at a comic convention when she was a kid, and they became friends? If so, I think Megan has the most potential of coming out of TF2 in one piece. Michael Bay and Shia LeBouf not so much.
June 24, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Since birth he was raised by a white mother and grandparents. Only in our polarizing race-centric society was he forced to claim to be 'black' when all that was necessary was for him to claim to be a good person and a good American.
June 24, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
And cashed the check. Also, writers have this habit of taking credit for everything that works in a film while telling everyone that all the shit was the director's fault. He and Kurtzman have make who knows how many millions writing their shit so if you were asked by some nimrod Director "hey, what we need is two racially offensive robots that represent the worst stereotypes of blacks" wouldn't the average person say something to the effect of "were making a movie based on a cartoon about robots that transform into vehicles Michael, were not trying to incite a racewar, so NO, I'm not writing that stupid shit and if you don't like that then fire me so I can spend my time counting the millions I've already made while by my pool with my dick in some tight 18 year old pussy". Of course none of these people are ever going to do that and it's because Orci, Kurtzman and Kruger are whores with no integrity, willing to take it in the ass if the price is right.
June 24, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST
by Vitter
June 24, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST
by palpatinefuckedmydog
Transformers2 is much like Aintitcoolnews.com
June 24, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST
by palpatinefuckedmydog
Transformers2 is much like Aintitcoolnews.com... at least the talk back.
June 24, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST
by fassbinder79
about this film is that it sounds like all the so called un PC elements simply had no place in the film and in many cases detract from it. We can argue all we want about people being too sensitive. I like alot of things that I think most people with my background might not appreciate. For example one of my favorite movies of all time is Bakshi's Coonskin. But that whole film is ABOUT black stereotypes and its animated by many black animators and entirely voiced by black actors. And more importantly the subject called for that. I don't have any problems with Song Of The South. I don't have any problems with Robin Williams shit in Smoochy (which is hilarious BECAUSE ITS FUNNY!) Williams is a talented enough comedian that he can tread that line. Black people are not as sensitive about this kind of thing as many white people think it just has to be done well. This sounds like it was racism just for the sake of being racist and not funny. And that's not too cool.
June 24, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
They still have John Turturro listed as the voice of Jetfire instead of Marc Ryan. So for now, don't trust them. Some AP report on Transformers confims Reno Wilson.
June 24, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
Uhh, you think you wouldn't put your name on a film that would make a gazillion dollars? Honestly, you must have no concept of how screenwriting and working with producers and studio heads and the concept of "notes" works. Its been confirmed the Twins were Bay's idea. As was the line "I'm too old for this crap." Bay interjects a LOT of his own ideas into his films. And yet you're still blaming Orci for a lot of the bad shit. That's all I'm saying.
June 24, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
That the voice actors and Bay pretty much made up their own dialogue in the recording sessions.
June 24, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
And NONE of my friends,family or children talk like those to damn transfomers
June 24, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
June 24, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST
by ganymede3010
Bay is a fucking cancer. This movie is lucky that's sitting at 22%, I can't wait until it drops to 10% where it belongs. What a fucking letdown. Not even a good popcorn movie.
June 24, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST
by TheLastCleric
After some of these early "reviews" I was really expecting a mess of film, completely unwatchable, so imagine my surprise when I found the film not only entertaining but actually superior to the original in most ways. I guess what mystifies me is that there is a ton of geek stuff in this sequel that none of the detractors even mention and it really is pretty damn cool. The robots are all given much more personality, especially the Decepticons; Star Scream and Megatron actually have the same type of relationship they had in the cartoon and comics; Rampage, Soundwave's beasty, is used pretty well here; the action is literally a dozen times better this go around with some truly incredible scenes; most of the humor is actually better than what was found in the first film and most of it works. As to the cries of racism, whatever. The whole idea behind the personalities of some of the robots is that they are emulating earth's different popular cultures and while I found the twins to be annoying, they were hardly offensive. (They were also tossed on their ass by Bumblebee, which I thought was pretty cool.) I guess Harry expects us to believe that he is suddenly overly concerned with what the children are seeing these days despite the fact that Transformers has the same rating as just about every other summer blockbuster, all of which contain violence, profanity, sexual references, etc. Regardless, I thought it was a good time and certainly not the shitfest Harry and his band of merry fucktwits are claiming.
June 24, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST
by DS9Sisko
..roughly half of the people who post to these talkbacks.
June 24, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
June 24, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST
by zooch
The blame falls squarely on Michael Bay's shoulders for taking a turd of a script and spinning it into a turd of a film.
June 24, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST
by j_difool
These bad reviews are written like they're "news." As if this is shocking. Movies this bad are released ROUTINELY by Hollywood and Harry and his gang eat them up like chocolate-covered... oh you get the idea.
June 24, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST
by Sithdan
June 24, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST
by seagrass
signifying nothing. Dammit. I was really looking forward to this, too.
June 24, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST
by turketron_2
Friends are talking about seeing this turd at the Orlando IMAX this saturday. No thanks. Gonna have to be an antisocial asshole this time...
June 24, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
"The Twins are racists gold bucktoothed mongoloid faced thugged out "bust a cap in your ass" cussing hillbilly gangsters" Couldn't say it any better myself
June 24, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST
by TheRealMikeJames
Racsist, stereotyping, offensive fighting robots! Hot chicks showing off their goods! Goofy Shia and Taturro delivering bad writing! SOLD.
June 24, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
The point is that Orci, Kurtzman and Kruger are three hacks that kissed the right asses to get where they were and I haven't seen any of them use their position to get some high quality work done. Hey, everyone has to start somewhere and sometimes you need to whore yourself out and do what you have to do so that you can do what you want. But the three of them have had their names attached to how many high profile projects over the last few years and have made how many millions not to mention that everything they've done has been shit. I don't see them taking time off from being Abram and Bay's fluffers to do some work on their own and show off their abilities and that's because they have nothing to offer apart from the trash that they've attach their names to.
Nice review, H, a well measured, reasoned piece on why you didn't like the movie and it's messages.<p> If you'd have done the same for TERMINATOR: SALVATION rather than spewing kneejerk vitriol i'd have had more respect for your opinion - I wouldn't have agreed with it (I still think T4 is a far superior film to TF) but I would have respected it.
June 24, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
June 24, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
A lot of producers and studios don't care about the quality of the film, just how much money it made. Therefore, even if the movie is shitty but it makes a gazillion dollars, they'll look to the screenwriters and the director to capture some of that "money-making magic" again. <p> And not to impugn your honor or anything, but I honestly don't believe any Talkbacker that says they wouldn't accept this kind of well-paying job or that they'd take their name off the film. Really, I don't buy that. <p> Now, have Orci and Kurtzman done anything original, like you suggest they should be doing? I don't think so. Don't know their history. But a lot of screenwriters don't. A lot of just writers for hire, like they seem to be. Which makes even more sense as to why they'd keep their name attached to a film that makes lots of money.
June 24, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Is Britney Spears set to star in a Holocaust movie? <P> By City Mouse <P> Ha'aretz News Tags: Holocaust, Israel news <P> Is American mega pop star Britney Spears set to return to the big screen, seven years after starring in the box office flop Crossroads? According to reports, Spears has been offered a part in the upcoming Holocaust film The Yellow Star of Sophia and Eton, which integrates time travel, concentration camps and a love story. <P> If she accepts the role, Spears will be taking on the title role of Sophia LaMont, a woman who invents a time machine and succeeds in traveling to the time of the Second World War. According to the script, LaMont ends up at a concentration camp and falls in love with a Jewish prisoner named Eton. However, the budding love story is cut short when both are killed by the Nazis. <P> Spears is currently on tour promoting her album Circus. In stark contrast to her thriving music career, Spears' movie career never really took off. Critics panned her role in the teen comedy Crossroads in 2002. Since then, she has appeared in guest spots on TV series such as Will and Grace and How I Met Your Mother. <P> Filming of the new movie is set to begin in September.
June 24, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
....I agree. That was the beacon of dumb fuck in this review. Yeah sure-- George hates all people of color, he just devours their fucking pussies.
June 24, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I already do it for free here.
June 24, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
DGDB, did my email help?<p> Wail for me baby...
June 24, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST
by Sick Fixx
a women's prison flick anyway.
June 24, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
As much defense as it seems I'm giving to him. <p> And yes, cries of racism in Star Wars is even more Baytarded than Transformers.
June 24, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
I'm still on the hunt. I know she's out there.
BSB, I heard Elton has signed on to play Eton. Gonna sing some tender duets with Britney, shave her head and then take her up the ass.<p> Because the holocaust was a Kerrazy time.
June 24, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST
by spiceybiscuit
WOW Harry is two for two on honest reviews! I bet you that T4 is looking like a great film now after that POS you just saw...another bad movie for a bad summer line up.
June 24, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST
by zooch
It's long, it's loud, it's boring, it's dumb, and people only go see it to watch the crashes.
June 24, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
He's the rocket man, burning up her arse. <P>
June 24, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST
by BillyMayesHere
THIS MOVIE IS TAKING IT THE ASS - hard.
June 24, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST
by fanaticon2007
So here it is. Any film that has a pro-war, Irag war, against terrorism stance is a piece of shit. And film that "insults" someone is a piece of shit. Any film that follows your political and twisted liberal mindset is a classic. Harry my man, you and your little crew are slowly becoming the joke of the net. It will be a matter of time until even shitty direct to video releases will fail to put your reviews on the cover. May I remind you of WHILE SHE WAS OUT, a piece of shit that you and your clan acutally hailed as well made. Why should anyone take your review of TRANSFORMERS seriously?
June 24, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST
by HideousSecretion
Transformers 2 sinks to an all-time low. Worse than the first in every conceivable was, but let's not piss off the studio so in the end I highly recommend! Then suck Obama's dick. And scene...
Yeah and who could forget the defiant rendition of 'Im Still Standing' after Elton comes out of the gas chamber alive.<p> And when Elton gets Britney to pretend to be a guy so he can get it up, and she sings 'Im not a girl' as he reams her. The buzz is oscars for both Elton and Britney on this one...
June 24, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
and her gaggle of moral crusaders now?
June 24, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
LOL!!!! How about "Don't Let The Shiksa Go Down On Me"?
June 24, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST
by fanaticon2007
Geeks reviews are having no affect on the box office. Overnight box office was high and I've recieved emails from friends that showings have been selling out all morning on both east and west coast. The numbers are the ultimate judge here, not geeks and wannebe filmmakers pissed at the state of their lives.
June 24, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
So we can point out where Hollywood touched us wrong
June 24, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
shit was crazy..more crazy on tomorrow.
June 24, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
June 24, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
June 24, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Yes, though it didn't match the absolute insanity of the Last Supper, it was quite good. But I think they're saving the best for Thursday, with lots of crying from Caroline. <P> Side note: I think Andy Cohen is a completely prick of the highest order. He had the nerve to say he was offended by Joe's minor gay remark? Seriously? Right before accusing Dina and Caroline of being associated with the fucking Mafia? Stereotype much, Andy? I fucking hate that guy. He is the most pretentious arrogant cocksucker this side of Michael Bay.
June 24, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
June 24, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
and coming back with some sane leaders. Did you hear about the Mark Sanford scandal? Fucking guy.
June 24, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
They will be in stores by the time G.I. Joe comes out
June 24, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
Did I miss something? Reunion? Last Supper?
June 24, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST
by Rob0729
Harry, I still don't trust your positive reviews, but your negative reviews are usually on point. Other than Bad Boys II, I think we both have the same taste when it comes to Michael Bay movies. The thing with Bay is that he never really progressed much from his commercials and music video days and he is all about style over substance. His movies usually succeed when he has actors who can rise above the paper thin plots and character development and bring some weight to the material where there is none. I never thought that Transformers had the actors to do that.
June 24, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST
by TheLastCleric
I just assume since I never heard you once mention the crass Gypsy stereotypes prevalent in Drag Me to Hell, where the gypsies are either black magic wielding old crones or nasty, mean-spirited people who venerate the old crones. Also, the Asian gangster in The Hangover could very easily be viewed as stereotypical and borderline offensive if you really want to play this pedantic, PC-Correct bullshit game. Also, I'd love to know who you think you are, Harold, to call out somebody like Spielberg? You are at best a leech on the ass of that man and this industry in general so really, notch this shit down. It's fucking weak.
June 24, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST
by Series7
We voted for McCain.
June 24, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST
by drewlicious
Got right to the point. Still, how can Megan Fox not be at least as hot after only two years?
June 24, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST
by Sillypuddy
...in the irreverent humor in The Hangover and ROTF....I wonder why the negative opinion is so prominent here.....does an R rating make it ok to make racist jokes or innuendo....
June 24, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Methinks Bob had better disassociate himself with those characters more stridently. It really sounds like Bay took them and ran with it in his own way. <p> "LOS ANGELES — "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" introduces some 40 new mechanized characters of all shapes, sizes and even sexes _ but it's a pair of jive-talking 'bots that critics are singling out as more than just harmless comic relief. <p> Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact Chevys, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth. <p> As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But the traits they're ascribed raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I _ The Phantom Menace" was criticized as a racial caricature. <p> Wall Street Journal film critic Joe Morgenstern described Binks in 1999 as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit," a reference to a black character from the 1920s and '30s that exploited negative stereotypes for comic effect. Extending that metaphor to the "Transformers" sequel was AP Movie Critic Christy Lemire, who calls Skids and Mudflap "Jar Jar Binks in car form." <p> And Manohla Dargis, film critic for The New York Times, takes it a step further, writing that the "Transformers" characters were given "conspicuously cartoonish, so-called black voices that indicate that minstrelsy remains as much in fashion in Hollywood as when, well, Jar Jar Binks was set loose by George Lucas." <p> Director Michael Bay insists that the bumbling 'bots are just good clean fun. <p> "We're just putting more personality in," Bay said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes _ they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it." <p> TV actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids. Neither immediately responded to interview requests for this story. <p> Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters." <p> "I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them." <p> Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters serve no real purpose in the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion. <p> "They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is." <p> Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the "Transformers" sequel. <p> "There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans." <p> American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles. <p> "There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially." <p> If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK." <p> But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"
June 24, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
We're talking about Real Housewives of New Jersey ...
June 24, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST
by BillyMayesHere
It's so easy for these idiots to type HATE when they don't have the ability to put themselves in a position to write or direct ... or lead a crew into production. That takes something inside that nobody typing these posts can even begin to relate to.
June 24, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST
by BillyMayesHere
June 24, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST
by uberman
or paying for anyone else to see it. Michael Bay sucks major assage.
June 24, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST
by CyberVishnu
You can piss and moan all you want. You all knew this was A MICHAEL BAY FILM with all the trappings and trimmings. Minimal story, racist stereotypes, giant fuck off robots battling, and lots of lens flare. If you hated it, then you asked for it. TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN owns your great aunt's sagging tits for near three hours!! And if you hated it, you fucking asked for it! I hope it hurts! I'm going back saturday you fat fuckass!
June 24, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST
by knowledge1027
June 24, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
June 24, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST
by BillyMayesHere
You're a juvenile idiot but yes, this will be critic proof.
June 24, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST
by G100
It's almost as cheap as surrounding everything with explosions to mask some of the poorly executed scenes.<p> <p>Jeeeesus Christ so many stupid fucking explosions. Tedious.<p> <p>There is more CG than the reviews might lead you to believe but the CG is also not as good as many are painting it.<p> <p>Wait for the DVD so you can skip past the hours of embarrassing Bay shit.<p> <p>And for the morons saying what do you expect from a Movie about Giant Robots ? Judeged on the Giant Robots fighting itself it's a failure. Far too little was actually on show. The Millions spent on this Movie were not up on the screen for almost all of the Movie.<p> <p>You don't sit through hours of shit for bout 10 minutes of good Robot action. So it fails on that level.
June 24, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Call me when you need a fatwa.
June 24, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
yeah when Any Cohen said he was gay...i looked at my wife and said..really??<P><P>but im not buying the mafai thing...it was a sad story and all, but then Dina had to ruin it with..think of the grandchildren...<P>meadow soprano didnt know HER DAD was in the mob...these mob guys dont go around and advertise it...its bad business. even so, they seem like a good loving family..jaquiline got lip injections...and huge.
June 24, 2009, noon CST
by PantherMatt
I am stunned that so much time and energy has been spent debating a Transformers movie. I mean, it's Transformers, for god's sake. Transformers. Complaining that Transformers doesn't have a lot of artestry going for it is like complaining that a mesclun mixed green salad doesn't taste chocolate-y enough. I mean, it >could< (as a Transformers movie could contain a high minded story, with social relevence, executed with good acting and quiet restraint), but it's not bloody likely. Transformers is not, and sadly has NEVR been, "More than meets the eye", and as such, I won't be wasting my time with it. In regards to Mr Orci: I really dug Star Trek and think Fringe really started to come into its own towards the end of the season. Keep it up.
June 24, 2009, noon CST
by Series7
got uglier, is because while Shia was busting his ass making every movie he could, she hasn't done shit but sit around and drink stale old 90210 jizz and eat Twinkies. Seriously why the fuck is she the voice of this movie? You know what if its as bad as they say, I'm glad she'll be the main person attached to it. I like Shia and he seems up for anything and I don't think this movie will set him back at all. <P> Hate him all you want but you know when you saw his moppy ass hair back in the day you were like, yeah I'll never see this kid in 5 years.
June 24, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
June 24, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
By the way, if Kate Goselin ever gets a talk show hosting gig, I'll... I'll... well fuck, I'd be really upset.
June 24, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I think she hinted in her blog that her friendship with Danielle is over. And rightly so. Danielle is definitely a toxic personality. They all have faults but Danielle is too brash for sweet Jackie to handle. And if she never had a nip/tuck then I'm the Queen of Africa.
June 24, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
You can say bullshit all you like but I truly care about cinema and if it was a choice between having my name on a piece of shit that made a billion or a masterpiece that was seen by very few people, I would have to choose the latter, as I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror. It's like Bill Hick's said, once you take their money then there is a price on your head and you can be bought. Fuck that.
June 24, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST
by terry1978
You KNOW it is. We always gripe about these properties catering only to kiddies, yet people like Bay take it TOO far to the opposite extreme.
June 24, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST
by G100
But the fact that they were allowed on the screen at all speaks fucking volumes about Bays judgement.
June 24, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Noting the homoerotic tensions between Sam and Optimus. Heh.
June 24, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
In a decision like that, I would probably choose the dream project over the shitty job for hire too. IF I had to pick between them. But IF I couldn't do the dream project for whatever reason, I'd definitely take the money project.
June 24, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Which means she'll get knocked up by the time she's 15 because, HEY, abstinence worked for her slutty 18 year old unwed daughter, right? They hypocrisy of that ignorant, know nothing, white trash, hillbilly, grifter is breathtaking.
June 24, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST
by Shaner Jedi
So if I was just "meh" about Transformers, will this film change my view and make me want another one?
June 24, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST
by Kief_Ledger
then there truly is no hope for humanity.
June 24, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Fucking shrill, castrating, evil harpy cunt…
June 24, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST
by The Garbage Man
The apple looked delicious on the outside but when he bit into it, it was rotten and full of worms and overall tasted terrible. He set the apple down and then watched as, a few minutes later, his friend picked up the apple and, not seeing the rotten bite taken out, started to eat it. Unfortunately, good ol' Josh here has never planted an apple seed. He has never generated the photons of light so critical to photosynthesis. He has never provided water or nutrients to a growing plant. For that matter, he has never picked an apple at harvest time, packaged it, or brought it to a market. Unfortunately, all those things meant he wasn't qualified to give his opinion about said piece of fruit. After all, it's only an apple, right? It's not like it's filet mignon for god's sake. And hell, some people like the taste of worms anyway...
June 24, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST
by danger_havok
Hey dudes and dudettes, Remember, DRAG ME TO HELL? That is how you do it, with lil' to no budget....DOWN WITH BLOCKBUSTERS, UP WITH STORIES WHO HAVE GOOD STORYTELLERS AT THE HELM!!! Also.................."WHERE THE FUCK IS KURT RUSSELL?" ----DANGER HAVOK----
June 24, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Alice. Right in the face. Golden Shower. Only this time, its "subtle".
June 24, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST
by Bot-Bot
Oh, and by the way, Damn you Michael Bay! I reluctantly rented Transformers on the recommendation of a couple of my coworkers. Hated every last second of its porn-style vfx money shots, endless camera spinning, over-designed robo-trash and monkey-level script. Never have I seen a film that has less interest in story or character.What a ridiculous waste of money. This new movie just seems like it's the same times 10. Bay is just a spoiled child with too many toys who deserves a spanking. I say boycott all his films. If any of you saw The Iron Giant and liked it, how can you possibly enjoy this kind of crap-fest?
June 24, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Fire an army of evil looking little minions out of her body!
June 24, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST
by Blanket-Man
I foolishly took my then-7-year-old soon to a pre-release premiere of the first movie, mistakenly thinking "It's a movie based on a TOY LINE, how inappropriate can it be?" It was one of the most foul PG-13s in memory. I made that one exception to my "screen movies before letting Junior see them" rule, and Bay bit me in the @ss. Not this time.
June 24, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST
by jorson28
I'm not defending racism, but I suspect that if those robots resembled and / or acted like fat, white, greedy, corrupt and allegedly Christian types in their late forties or fifties with a tendency to blame the "poor" for all their own problems, you guys might admit it to be cliched, but I guarantee you wouldn't dare call it racist, which is all the more ridiculous since Harry is white and, I suspect, at least half of the contributing staff of Aint-It-Cool-News is white. I could be wrong about the latter assessment (and the first, but I doubt it), but I suggest it because I've seen other reviewers put their race upfront as almost a bragging point because they think it makes theirs a "unique" perspective, which itself would probably make this site appear predominantly white. You guys aren't tolerant or progressive - racism and the tolerance of it isn't going anywhere, it's just changing form a little. Now, white Christians are fair game while everyone else of any minority, particularly racial, can only be made fun of in America to certain extents or by someone of their own race or, maybe, by another racial minority. It's proof that nobody wants real EQUALITY or FAIRNESS, just possible retribution for centuries or decades-old race-related societal crimes (slavery, Jim Crow), entitlement and privilege. Why else can blacks have their own college(s) and white men can't even have a private golf course and country club operated within the letter of the law without still being threatened for being sexist and / or racist? I guess it has to do with which race is starting all the wars from America, right? Never mind that Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice were and still are black - one made the case for the Iraq War (in spite of recent assertions of regret) while the other helped propagate it. But, then again, like Bill Cosby, they're probably not "black." Again, I'd never condone racism, but that's exactly why I'm not condoning this - the movie or the review. And though I haven't seen the movie, I've heard plenty of complaints from African American community leaders about the same sort of depictions in films by African American filmmakers and actors that still seem to fall on deaf ears, including the ones on this site. What's more, it's been my experience that whether you're talking about blacks, Asians or whites - whatever race - most of the stereotypes and cliches have more than a grain of truth to them. Just as there are fat, White, allegedly Christian people of various types in their late forties and fifties that are greedy, corrupt and insensitive to the poor, there are plenty of "people" that DO act and talk like the robots you describe. If you encountered them, you'd never bash them for propagating a negative stereotype within their own community - odds are you'd either pity them, turn a blind eye or tolerate their behavior as part of a culture that whites couldn't possibly understand and about which should have nothing substantial to say. Ignore it or say what you will about this post - call it racist, ignorant, stupid and use probably five times the amount of four-lettered foul language in TRANFORMERS 2 doing it (as usual) - but you know there's truth to it. In any case, in the event the sort of accusation occurs to anyone, if I were truly a hypocrite, why would I bother mentioning the truth behind Caucasian Christian stereotypes? We can only justly be called hypocrites in what we say and do, not in what we think.
June 24, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST
by Evangelion217
It was exactly what I expected, and probably a lot more. It's everything that "Terminator Salvation", and "Wolverine" were suppose to be, but never were. The action is bigger then the first "Transformers" film, it's funnier, it's louder, crazier, and WAY more obnoxious. The fight sequences between the Transformers was more comprehensible, and you can see most of what was going on. And as a former fan of the cartoon, I loved seeing Optimus Prime kicking so much ass. He completely kicked the living sh!t out of Megatron. That was the main thing that pissed me off about the original. Optimus only killed one Decepticon, and got a beat down by Megatron. That's not my Optimus. My Optimus kicks takes names, kills things, and saves the day. In "Revenge of the Fallen", Optimus Prime is THE hero and that's the way it should be. Overall, this isn't a film that is built to last. It's just a forgettable McDonald's meal that you need when you are very hungry. It's a feast for the eyes, a sensory over-load, and a very big film. Nothing more, nothing less. My rating is a 7/10.
June 24, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
Something NFL's MICHAEL VICK Could Never Say..."I Got No Dog In This Fight." I (RDD) was too old for the TRANSFORMER toy fad. So I have ZERO interest in seeing any TRANSFORMER movies good or bad. I could NOT care less. I am at the bottom of caring. So why post? I wanted to use my MICHAEL BAY comment.
June 24, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
CORRECTION: "I wanted to use my MICHAEL VICK comment."
June 24, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
yeah that bitch Danielle MADE HER pick up her glass and toast her..who the fuck does that..you dont order your friends around.
June 24, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
I'll bet HARRY KNOWLES has a correction function on here. Although, the grammar police will say it does him no good.
June 24, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST
by palpatinefuckedmydog
You took your "7 year old kid" to a "PG13" movie...and complained it contained inappropriate content for your kid?..?? you're a moron.
June 24, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST
by Series7
But hated the Island? I thought he loved the Island, and only people in coma's liked BB2?
June 24, 2009, 1 p.m. CST
by zooch
Orci & Kurtzman say it's not Kruger, it's Michael Bay's fault. Michael Bay is like not my fault, blame the voice actors. Pass the blame. Ha!
June 24, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST
by ABking
June 24, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
June 24, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
magical negroes!
June 24, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
seriously, that'd make this bullshit go away.
June 24, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST
by amnesiac108
I've shat on your writing before, but you ain't done no bad job this time. Good show.
June 24, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST
by darthliquidator
...what's funny about Bay...he truly thinks he's the greatest action director ever...when in reality, he's the all time worst..his action sequences are always atrociously edited, poorly photographed and way overlong. In terms of his filmmaking skills and handling of actors...he's basically Ed Wood Jr with 200 million at his disposal.
June 24, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST
by zooch
"Well, it's a construction machine, so you of course have wrecking balls. And Michael, immediately, of course, loved it." -Kurtzman<br><br>Ha ha! This movie was written by adults!
June 24, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST
by Harry Weinstein
...he'd fix his PELHAM 123 review and give David Shire his proper credit for the music in the 1974 version.
June 24, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
but you can't swear or show a titty, you are fucked in the collective brain, america.
June 24, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
He's not racist. Just slightly crippled. Hobbled. Whatever.
June 24, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST
by HoboCode
Why exactly is there no chance parents with young children will not have to take them to this offensive, soul-destroying, socially-corrosive, rancid garbage? Fucking PATHETIC. Hey assholes, the word is "NO."
June 24, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST
by REVENGE_of_FETT
I am the first to point out that the first Transformers is a big, bloated POS. I said it was going to be when the project was announced, I said it was when it hit screens and I say it today. HOWEVER it has Shia being funny, Megan being hot and the robopts do look cool and the cinematography is fantastic. It sounds like most of those things are still intact but the story is way stupider and they've instilled some bizarre racial humor. Remember, Michael Bay wasn't even going to DO this movie because of the HD DVD vs. Blu-ray debacle (after Paramount dropped BD support), and he had to be talked into doing the first one. Honestly, why not someone who really WANTS to do the movie?
June 24, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 24, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST
by Heckles
Foul-mouthed? Check. Racist? Oh yeah. Misogynistic? Yes. Time to transform into justification mode, Harold?
June 24, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST
by Heckles
Get over yourself. Misplaced fanboy indignation, roll out. <br><br>And if you're so offended, thinking Spielberg should be ashamed to have his name on it, what about those nice little ads for Transformers you have on your site? Ah, don't want to stop the gravy train. Well played.
June 24, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST
by meta4
Please write a script for the 3rd...consistency is key.
June 24, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST
by Autodidact
Man, I must have lost my mind because so many people are in love with Drag Me To Hell. It was a fucking piece of dogshit for Pete's sake!
June 24, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST
by ebonic_plague
...if for no other reason than my TB name is actually relevant again.
June 24, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST
by Autodidact
I was going to see TF2 today but real life intruded. I bet I'll get more out of it than I did Drag Me To Hell. All it will take is five minutes of actual entertainment. Fuck you Raimi!
June 24, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
I truly don't understand how there are so many people writing comments here about how much they hated this movie. I am 33 years old, and I took my 11 year old son with me to the midnight showing. There were 10 theaters at the location where we went and they were all showing ROTF, and all were sold out. It was a mad house, packed full of Transformers fans, casual movie-goers, and everyone in between. And when the movie started and you heard Peter Cullen doing his opening monologue, everyone applauded and took an immediate interest in the movie. And all during the movie, you could hear laughter, oohs and aahs, cheering, excitement, and yes, even some sobbing (myself included). When you're in the theater and EVERYONE is that engaged in a movie, it is obviously doing something right. It isn't about whether or not you agree with a few seconds of a certain joke or not, it's how much you enjoyed the experience of watching the movie. No one left that theater saying anything less than fantastic comments about the movie. It was a magical and intense ride to watch what Michael Bay and everyone else created. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen wasn't as mindless as people are making it out to be; while it may not win any awards for plot complexity, it certainly wasn't void of a plot line. It has a solid and engaging story, one that I (as a Transformers fan) thought kept the spirit of the Transformers mythology very well. I absolutely loved this movie, as did a ton of other people that I've talked to, offline. Sure there were some minor plot flaws, but every movie has them. This movie will make a ton of money, because it deserves it. Kudos to Bay, Orci/Kurtzman/Kreuger, and everyone else that contributed to bringing this movie to life! It was a fantastic experience that I intend on enjoying over and over again.
June 24, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST
by ganymede3010
Why couldn't you elicit the same passion for TF's as you did for Star Trek? It's glaringly obvious that you wrote this movie as fast as you could so you guys could move on to something you really love like Star Trek. That's all fine and dandy, but you really shouldn't return for TF3, allow someone to do it who really cares about the characters as much as you care for Trek.
June 24, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Can your post be any more planty? FFS!
June 24, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST
by Philvis
If Harry's bleeding heart calls the movie racist...it definitely is a must see. Keanu Reeves still owes me $9 for The Day the Earth Stood Still, so what's $10 more for TF2. Harry, where is your hyperlink to Perez Hilton's website?
June 24, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I guess we have JJ to thank.
June 24, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
He was quite the nice guy. Had a young girl following him around doing whatever he asked too. I think they called her his "assistant".
June 24, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST
by Hugh G Rekshun
...read it and weep bitches!
June 24, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Mark Sanford is having an odd Oprah moment on CNN ...
June 24, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST
by TheLastCleric
Drag Me to Hell was fucking swill. Cheap, ugly, unfunny and un-scary and yet, because Raimi directed it the film is being called a masterpiece. IF anybody other than Raimi had made this flick it would have been derided into dust.
June 24, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST
by BILLY_BOOMSTICK
... great point regarding "Bruno"... It's okay to laugh at stereotypes if they are of a certain type. Is it hypocrisy to find one caricature hilarious, and to express outrage over another?
June 24, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
www.myspace.com/qatlantis I am not a "plant" - I'm just a hardcore Transformers fan that was not disappointed by this movie. You can check out my myspace page if you like to verify my identity - I'm not ashamed of who I am, and I'll continue to defend my admiration of this movie. The true fans are sometimes the hardest audience to please, and I was highly satisfied with this movie (as were a ton of other people), so they must've done something right!!
June 24, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST
by veritasses
Shallow/stupid/meaningless characters, bad dialog, dumb plots, juvenile jokes, wtf moments etc point to problems with the writing. Sounds like it might be hard to tell who should shoulder most of the writing blame but the result is a shameful mess.
June 24, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST
by TheLastCleric
Like you, I grew up with the Transformers and I really enjoyed this sequel, probably more than the first. They really did a great job with the action scenes and the Megatron/Starscream relationship was dead on. I love all types of film but not everything needs to be heavy, deep and complex. There's a decent little story in the film and the special effects are amazing so really, I don't understand the hatred. Then again, I don't understand why people who hated the first one would watch the sequel.
June 24, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST
by JT Kirk
According to Orci & Kurtzman at Botcon (the Transformers convention in Pasadena) last month, the powers that be saw that the strike was coming so with 2 weeks to go until that, TPTB convinced them to agree to write the film. The Orci Kurtzman connection slapped together an outline for Bay & co. to begin preproduction. After the strike ended, Bay locked them in a hotel a few blocks from his office and they got to writing. But as they were working on 3 other films around that time, someone (them, Bay, producers, studio, I don't recall them saying who was responsible) brought in Kruger to the aforementioned hotel sleepover to help them get the work done. Kruger impressed Bay and the studio with his knowledge of Transformers and his dedication to researching the TF material as they wrote stuff. Ortzman (the celebrity coupling) liked Kruger so much that they are producing a film of his.<p>Now you know, and knowing is half the battle. The battle to figure out who to blame first for this film.
June 24, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST
by JT Kirk
You'd think with all that stuff, it sounded like this was a rushed script, right? They said Bay kept them in the hotel for 4 solid months writing this thing.
June 24, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I just said your post was planty. The fault lies with the real plants. If it weren't for them we wouldn't have had an issue.
June 24, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
A couple friends went to the late night showing of TF2. They didn't think it was the worst thing in the world, but it wasn't so hot either. In fact, they were surprised by how dull it was, despite the robot action. <p> The movie could have lost 90 minutes from the run time, and you wouldn't have missed a thing. Apparently, you can sit down for the movie, watch it for a while, get up, drive away from the theater, go home, balance your checkbook, do your laundry, come back to the theater, sit down and you'd be just in time for the action packed part in the 3rd act. And the movie wouldn't have lost anything in coherence.
June 24, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST
by HoboCode
Jesus the GOP is so fucked. What a tool. Happy Father's Day kids. I'll be fucking my mistress in Argentina but have fun with Mom while she and everyone else on Earth wonders where the fuck I am. Down in flames.
June 24, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST
by Darth Rude
You bitch about the language in the film but not 29 words into your very own review you use the word "FUCK". NICE Harry!
June 24, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST
by Logan_1973
I saw it and really liked it. Don't dare ask me or anyone to boycott anything.
June 24, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
Thanks for supporting my point; not everyone hated this movie! I agree with the Megatron/Starscream banter, it was missing almost completely in the first movie, so it was great to see them include more of it the second time around. And I'm not trying to say that this is the best movie of all time ever created, but it seems that everyone expected it to be and are totally trash talking it now and pointing out every little flaw because it wasn't. It was a fun ride and worth every penny to me!!
June 24, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST
by the new transported man
What you're not considering is that in the 25 years of Transformers, there's been a ton of literate, characterized, & sometimes very profound Transformers material in comic form. Sure, it's still robots turning into vehicles, but kids who played with Transformers in 1984 wound up dramatically expanding upon that 15-20 years later. There's a ton of good source material out there.
June 24, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST
by HoboCode
Sanford had a gay sex romp. Count on it.
June 24, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST
by Cobbio
I agree, AyatollahSexyBack. Qatlantis is a studio damage controller posing as a talkbacker. He's paid to spout "This movie is SO awesome!" rhetoric into this otherwise scathingly anti-Transformers talkback. It's a typically corporate damage control tactic.<p> The problem is: he's lying. None of what he described actually happened.<p> "Insane fun!" Bullshit.<p> "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen wasn't as mindless as people are making it out to be" Also BS.<p> Faceless Damage Controller named Qatlantis, this is what you should write: the movie wasn't as great as it could've been, and yeah the humor was childishly inappropriate and borderline racist, but hey, how about those explosions! Lots and lots of big explosions! Big robots fighting each other! What's not to like about that?<p> See how it's done, Q? Thus endeth the lesson.
June 24, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST
by Fatsquatch
...to expect this movie to be good in any way. It's a silly movie franchise based on a silly cartoon. C'mon!
June 24, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST
by zooch
Bruno is a character that is intended to make homophobes feel uncomfortable and exposed so that we can all have laugh at their expense. It's Sasha Cohen own social commentary on homophobia...and you obviously do not get it. It is completely different.
June 24, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST
by Xxplosive
Is that what all of these robots are fighting for?
June 24, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST
by Philvis
Go back and watch the original cartoons. They are very goofball. I don't expect the movie to be super serious and plot driven as the cartoon it was based upon was not. The original plot of every episode in The Transformers was the Decepticons trying to get energon cubes and the Autobots trying to stop them. Personally, I thought the first film had its flaws with the fact that you couldn't tell who was who during the action sequences and there tended to be commercial like sequences with the cars. Other than that, it is what it is, a cartoon made into a movie. It was an entertaining popcorn movie. That is all I expect out of the second one...a popcorn movie. My only hope is that I will be able to recognize who is who this time.
June 24, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST
by DennisMM
who cares about TF needs to examine his or her priorities. Plenty of great action films not based around toys and cartoons. Go rent the Steve McQueen version of "The Getaway" and get back to us.
June 24, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Which he so desperately tried for by playing to diehard conservatives in his attempt to reject federal stimulus money.
June 24, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST
by Heckles
Cohen is a shit disturber. Don't get me wrong, I think he's funnier than hell. I get it. Don't forget, the social commentary is essentially a crude, racist hidden camera prank show. Sure, SBC is making a big joke, that somehow justifies it? Either way, I don't care. Give be gold tooth Transformers, give me Bruno's African baby named O.J. Just don't tell me one is funny racism and the other isn't. Can't have it both ways.<br><br>And Bruno is marketed toward the same teen market as Transformers. MTV Movie Awards stunt, roll out.
June 24, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is any more or less wrong than yours. I disagree with a lot of people on this post, but I'm not going to try to "school" them on how to properly document how they really felt about a movie. I loved the movie - plain and simple. I'm not overanalyzing every single plot hole and trying to say how horrible the movie was because of it. I had an insane amount of fun while watching it; you cannot try to dictate to me how I felt just because you didn't agree. And it wasn't mindless - they explain a lot about the Transformers' past and where The Fallen came from, and they involved Sam into that past. As I said, it wasn't an award-winning plot, but it was great for the movie. You don't have to agree with me, but I know that there are more people out there that do. And thank you for your opinion; even if I don't agree with you, it is still interesting to hear an opposing side... :)
June 24, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
....what I do give a fuck about is Obama right about to once again give the finger to the assholes that got him elected (I'm counting myself in this group....yes) and dropping a public health care option from his big Health Care Reform package. I'm sure his dear old pal Tom Daschle had nothing to do with it. Bought and fucking paid for.
June 24, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
...and I also wanted to clarify that I'm not a "faceless damage controller" - check out my MySpace page to learn more about me, if you like... www.myspace.com/qatlantis
June 24, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Who the fuck are you? You've been registered for a week and you call me out? <P>Funny child. Funny.
June 24, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST
by Blanket-Man
I'll admit, it was moronic of me to assume that a PG-13 movie based on a Toy Line might not be all that bad for a 7-year-old. There are plenty of PG-13 flicks that I thought were OK for him (Spider-Man 1, Indy IV, Iron Man...). Like I wrote, I had free tix to a premiere, and I made a bad decision. Kind of like Mikey Bay did, for including a "hilarious" scene about masturbation in a Transformers flick. So fuck both of ya.
June 24, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
I'm curious...have you ever fucked your wife with Optimus Prime?
June 24, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
...where it doesn't belong.<p> Government sponsored healthcare, yes what a brilliant idea. Give our literal lives over to the geniuses that fucked up Social Security, MediCare (which IS government sponsored healthcare BTW), and our public schools to name just a few of the absolutely moronic things government has no business being in the business of.<p> Give me a tax credit or a stipend and let me choose my own healthcare. The free market is ALWAYS better than the goddam self-serving politicians.
June 24, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
No, I have not fucked my wife while wearing the Optimus Prime helmet (I'm assuming that's what you were referring to). She and I have tons of sex without the interaction of Transformers (yes, a Transformers fanatic can get laid!!) LOL
June 24, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
If my marriage falls apart I hope it's at least due to a sordid affair with our hot young Russian receptionist and not to too much talkbacking.
June 24, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST
by BILLY_BOOMSTICK
... calm down. This isn't a HuffPo talkback. ... ...like Heckles, I get Sacha Cohen's humor, but a stereotype is a stereotype; to say I can exploit this stereotype because it is for a good cause and you can't use that stereotype because it's not for a good cause is absurd. Personally, I find all stereotypes to be hilarious, and I find it even more hilarious that white people are the ones who raise the biggest stink about them. I know stereotypes are not entirely true... BUT there are some truths to them... that's what makes them so fucking funny.
June 24, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Who asked you anyway.
June 24, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Its called a public healthcare OPTION, because its fucking optional. You can keep whatever the fuck you want. This would simply make an affordable government run program available for those that need it. But even that....would dig too deep in Tom Daschle's lobbyist pockets, so don't worry-- you're not gonna see jack shit under this President.
June 24, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST
by turketron_2
Is how one radio host described the sambots.
June 24, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
I mean actually fucked her with the head of a 12 inch action figure.
June 24, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
The moment he gets something more than a cold he's going to find out the hard way he aint got no fucking coverage. LOL
June 24, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
June 24, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
OH!! That makes more sense. She prefers my 12" head over Prime's, but I could probably try your idea next time... :)
June 24, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST
by BILLY_BOOMSTICK
... the only problem with his story is that he wasn't cracking a Brazilian chick... those bitches are FREAKS!!!
June 24, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
a cape, and a New Trek phaser. Bring Halloween on.
June 24, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST
by BILLY_BOOMSTICK
... I made a political statement and I kept it on the subject of stereotypes (Brazilians=Freaks).
June 24, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Well DickBlood threw it out there, I was just responding. So eat me SexyBack.<p> And don't be retarded, I have my own healthcare NOW, they paid for 100% of the costs of birthing both of my children, and I and my wife have never had a problem getting medical care for ourselves. I know not everyone has it that good, but pardon me for wanting to keep something that's been so good and valuable to us.
June 24, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST
by Qatlantis
I've enjoyed reading and interacting with these posts for the past couple of hours, but I have to go get ready to see Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen again, in IMAX! Have fun everyone!! :)
June 24, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
No one will force you to drop it. A public plan option is crucial to ensure that our fellow Americans are covered too, maybe not as well as under your plan, but to have access to care. <P> Sorry for being so snarky before.
June 24, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST
by Yotz Von Frelnik
Amid everything else, why not?
June 24, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Tell your corporate master we didn't buy it.
June 24, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST
by ebonic_plague
Are you going as the guy from George McFly's nightmare? <p> "Last night, Darth Vader came from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't ask Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."
June 24, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
I have so many problems with what you just said Sexy I don't know where to begin, so I'm going to drop it for fear of disrupting the warranted anger towards TF2 we should all be talking about instead of this. Peace.
June 24, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST
by lavatory love machine
you shoul rewatch bad boys 2 ad armaggedon and you'll see the same repugnant Bay cliches on both
June 24, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
"The Ring" was actually a damn good horror movie, one of the few since "The Shining" that was about the atmosphere and characters as opposed to the slasher crap from the 80's/90's and the torture porn shit from the 00's...so Kruger can write, maybe just on occasion, but it's possible. Meanwhile, Orci and Kurtzman have proven to be sub-mental twits with a questionable grasp of the English language time and time again, (and are so creatively bankrupt that they're only a season into their Fringe thing and have already done the same episode TWICE, the crisis on the airplane storyline)...so I'm sure all the shit is from Orci and Kurtzman, not that you'd ever admit wrongdoing on the part of anyone involved with the CINEMATIC MANIFESTATION OF GOD that is, wait for it...JJ ABRAMS "STAR TREK"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 24, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Now gag on your 12 year old daughter's first pop of the Jesus juice you MOTHERFUCKING TWAT!
June 24, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST
by subtlety
that review took an unexpected turn at the end, even by Harry's usual standards. Gonna try as hard as I can not to go see this thing...
June 24, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I will go as that guy absoluteluy!!! Haha I didn't make that connection!
June 24, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
June 24, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST
by Cobbio
Ok, I read and appreciate your two-part response to my assertion. Thank you.<p> But I must say I still think you're compromised. No one ever gives such a happy happy, pom-pom waving opinion of a film in these talkbacks. Even you loved the film, I think if your opinion were genuine (and not compromised), you would've talked about the film itself, and not how every theater in the cineplex you went to was packed. See, no one cares about that stuff except salesman-types who want to create buzz and sell tickets. See what I'm saying? It's never genuine.<p> Plus, you actually used the full name of the film when describing it, which no one here does. You're probably a nice guy and I have nothing against you personally, but your rah-rah enthusiasm for "Transformers" comes across to me as fake.<p> And I'm sure to other people as well.<p> But this is AICN, and thanks to Harry, it's an open forum. So you're welcome to keep waving your pom-poms.
June 24, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Yes let's agree to drop it, since we'll only waste a lot of time and bandwidth to come full circle .. where I'm found to be right.
June 24, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Dont give in to his brainwashing juice!
June 24, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Who could definitely use some help when it comes to insurance.
June 24, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST
by filegumbo
The hyper-stereotyped, minstrel show black character went out sometime in the 90's (during an episode of "In Living Color" I believe). Even then it was attempting to make a mockery of racism. I don't think that's the case here. I bet Michael Bay thought two trash-talking Transformers would be cool. They even had the gold teeth? Were they drinking a 10W-40 ounce at the same time?
June 24, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST
by lostark1234
WOW. That's all I can say. I must've grown up because I haven't done the forum thing in a while and this thread is the same childish, purile, asinie, tripe as always. There's always the LOVERS, who are usually fine until you say you hate it then you MUST be an asshole because how could they possibly be wrong? Then there's the HATERS, who are complied mostly of frustrated fanboys who KNOW in their greasy little hearts that THEY could make the movie SO MUCH BETTER if someone just gave them a chance. They've been harboring their dream script for Transformers since 97, of course they never wrote it, they just mentally masturbated to the idea of their dream version that the one they saw at the theater just shat all over. Then there's just the ASSHOLES. Wanna-be street toughs who talk about "being called out" as if a forum Talkback was the wild fucking west. This place is a cowards paradise, where those who wouldn't dare open their mouths if staring someone in the face, will attempt to textually shred them, click 'post' and recline in their chair as if they were 'bad ass.' I would never tell you to shut the fuck up because it's your choice and I can always just not read your idiocy. THEN there are the TRUE JACKASSES who turn every damn forum into a Liberal v. Conservative debate. They win the gold prize for dumbfuckery. When you are so blindly aligned with one political side that you can't realize that both sides are a bunch of lying scumbags who care about their party before you, and would crush your grandmother's spine if they thought it would garner votes, then you are a bigger fool than Skid and Mudflap who while they may be black comical stereotype characters are hardly racist. I've seen the same caricatures a million times on In Living Color or any BET comedy special. Flava Flav is a WALKING TALKING Skid or Mudflap. I'm done.
June 24, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST
by lavatory love machine
I say that because the part of the review that says that crew members said that Bay was really trying to make a good movie, it reminds me of this girl at work who's a pill addict, she was trying to come clean and then she said "I got a gret deal for this" and showed us a little bottle filled with pills, and she did it with a stupid smile like saying "I know it's wrong but I couldn't resist", Bay is just like that, he tried to make it good but he overdosed on retarded comedy and bad/overcut action
June 24, 2009, 3 p.m. CST
by TheLastCleric
Why would a studio plant or whatever give two shits about this forum or this place? This film is going to make a truckload of money and anybody who thinks this site and the opinions of those who populate this place holds any kind of sway in the real world is delusional. I think what is jarring about somebody like Qatlantis is that he offers a fair and balanced take of a film despite being surrounded by people acting like it is the worst movie ever made.
June 24, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST
by lavatory love machine
"wow, Bay gets us" (family guy reference)
June 24, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST
by lostark1234
If you yell at someone named "dannyglovers_dickblood" which I'm sure he thought was absolutely badass hilarious, then you get exactly what you deserve. What do you expect him to reply with? <BR><BR> Everything about him from his moniker, to his posts do more damage to him than any snappy comeback you have in your lexicon. <BR><BR> I weep for the poor bastard. <BR><BR> Mike Judge's IDIOCRACY is starting right here...
June 24, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
How in the hell can Harry say anything it too offensive when he runs the website that gave us the term ,"Chocolate covered pussy juice" or some stupid. This fucking website is over the top and can't see quality popcorn fare for what it is. Anyone who says that they can't see a plot in this film isn't paying fucking attention. And you know what, if they had two overly offensive-speaking rednecks in there, no one would have a problem. Fucking counter-racial shit. So go ahead Harry, play up to your black readers and throw Obama's name in there to sound smart. Ladies and gents, I give you the WHITE UNCLE TOM.
June 24, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST
by Rufferto
OH MY. THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP EINSTEINS I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!! Can you stupid assholes come up with new material and new excuses besides posting the same garbage over and over again? And grow an original thought that isn't bull that has been shot down a million times already.
June 24, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST
by casale2a
I just got done seeing this movie and I thought it was amazing. Of course, I loved the first one. If you even liked the first one at all, you will like this one a lot. There's more action, more Transformers, more everything. And as for the Transformer Twins and that one guy on this site trashing them calling them "Jar Jar Binks". That is stupid as fuck. If you think about it in the first one they said they got their language and stuff from the World Wide Web. And if you think about it, they weren't that bad. I thought this movie was amazing and that may just be me. But, DON'T let what these people are saying make you think you SHOULDN'T see it if you planned on it before. Critics suck.
June 24, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST
by lostark1234
You're telling us to boycott the movie, while giant video ads for the thing are playing on your FRONT PAGE! <BR><BR> C'mon man. I've never been one for calling you out, most of the time it just stinks of jealous fanboys wishing their shitty site was getting as many hits, but DUDE! <BR><BR> You can't call for a boycott while advertising the movie!!!!!
June 24, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST
by antrell8
the actor who played 'Yakov' the one-tooth butcher isn't black at all...he's of canadian and middle eastern descent so let's not call every brown person an african american or black guy when we see one on film :) Seriously, I didn't view that part as racist at all, and I'm black, but I could tell by the accent that the character wasn't supposed to portray an black guy....I do agree with ya about some fluff, but the movie is trying to reach everyone of a lot of different demographics and it's not going to please everyone 110% of the time...some of the negative points you bring up I may not have liked either, but the audience got a chuckle out of because we're all a diverse world...take the good with the bad, but enjoy the good...I was glad to see Optimus kick some butt this time
June 24, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST
by Samuel Fulmer
It's more like ramblings you would find written with feces on the inside of a bathroom stall.
June 24, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST
by blakindigo
Try looking up definitions of 'stereotype' and 'racism'— your apparent need to see the images you mentioned as 'accurate' depictions of racial groups makes you seem, well, uninformed to be polite.<br><br>How your twisted and ignorant comment relates to "Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen" escapes me…
June 24, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
and he points out he doesn't do the forum thing too much.
June 24, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
June 24, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST
by lonestaricon
I saw the 1st matinee of ROTF and it was worth $5.50 and 2.5 hours of my life. I really enjoyed watching the spectacle. The only aspects that distracted me were Megan's perfectly glossed lips and the twin Autobots dialogue. The foul language was not so much offensive as it was unexpected and unnecessary to make the movie enjoyable. I am going to see this movie again soon.
June 24, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST
by Kakii
Randall took back porch monkey, so I'm taking back Skids and Mudflap! Skids and Mudflap 4 life
June 24, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
I have to see how bad this movie is with my own eyes (unfortunately).
June 24, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST
by HideousSecretion
Because it makes Obama seem like an incompetent, cowardly ass willing to negotiate with evil Decepticon scum. http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2009/06/transformers-a-swipe-at-obama.html
June 24, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
because i kinda enjoyed TF2.
June 24, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST
by ganymede3010
HAHAHAHAHAH Mark Sanford HAHAHAHAHA!!!
June 24, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
June 24, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
I personally think that portraying them as "Marlon Wayans" was a stroke of genius..."We don't do much readin'" That shit is just classy. It's like they're saying, "Yah, son! We ain'ts be gettin' down book, BULL-shit! Leh-me axe you a question...why you hay-in?"
June 24, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST
by future help
too funny.
June 24, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST
by blakindigo
June 24, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST
by blakindigo
If you're in the States, ever hear of the freelancers union? Look 'em up.
June 24, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST
by C A Iversen
Everything is racist. Your dog is racist, your fridge is racist, the sun is racist. Gravity is racist (white men can't jump)! Racist, racist, racist, racist, racist. Let's just milk this term. Oh yeah I forgot, spare change is racist. Lastly, I'm offended by it all. Every molecule in the universe offends me.
June 24, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST
by Arioch55
...you fat bastard, it's sterotypical. Typical over-sensitive, pc, liberal pansy-ass.
June 24, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Pure Capitalism.
June 24, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
You can be a pedophile like Francis Ford Coppola.
June 24, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST
by drturing
he put his director credit on Bad Boys II over an image of a burning cross. dude has issues when it comes to black people.
June 24, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST
by drturing
Are you not getting my emails? I offered to review The Hurt Locker, Cold Souls, and In The Loop for you.
June 24, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
Shit i'm cracking myself up here.
June 24, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST
by Superzerotwo
...REALLY,HARRY? I take movies VERY seriously, as do you, I've made them my PROFESSION, as did you, but STILL brother, sometimes a movie is just a freaking movie. Maybe the studio heads, Bay, the writers..etc are just REALLY REALLY bad humorists and don't get the fact that they just DON'T GET IT...pulling the "it's racist!" card seems a little much to me.
June 24, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
Everything is racist.
June 24, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
if he won't take them, we will......<p>www.aintitbalenews.com <p><p>email@example.com
June 24, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST
by Nutsack
Simpson leads to Bruckheimer, Bruckheimer leads to Bay, Bay leads to suffering. This sounds just like his last horrible shitty movie, and the one before that, and so on. PLOP-SPLASH! (the fall of Michael Bay's latest turd, signaling my departure)
June 24, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST
by mukhtabi
I did not find mudflap and skids to be at all racist, and have a hard time believing there would be such a thing as 'White' Robots or 'Black' Robots. I mean if that's true then wouldn't by logic Bumblebee be a bad ripoff of Dr. Stephen Hawking and all disabled people? Would Jetfire be derogatory of scotsmen? Is Starscream derogatory of cowards and chickens everywhere? I think all the reviewers I've read are bringing way too much baggage to this film. And Harry, if you true feel this is way too offensive a film for the family audience, I dare you... I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU to come up and actually release and distribute a large powerful family action film for everyone to watch. You got real close with John Carter. Let's see you deliver the goods just once, huh?
June 24, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
I live in Canada and we have a great healthcare system despite what you hear from Fox News. See your phone book? Pick it up and dial a doctor and ask him if he's taking patients. If he is then BLAMMO he's your new doctor. If not then you call another until you get one and NO it won't take more then two or three phoncalls. If you get into a car crash or develop cancer you don't have to worry that you'll be crippled with debt for the rest of your life nor would you EVER have to consider avoiding treatment.<br> <br>Also, the myth about wait times is just that A MYTH. If you need immediate emergency healthcare you go to the fucking hospital or call and ambulance and they take care of you RIGHT THERE and you don't have to worry about a bill coming in the mail for thousands of dollars. The problem is that stupid, selfish fucks like you think that your taxes will go towards paying for poor people and illegal's well that won't be the fucking case. You see we have this thing here called PREVENTATIVE MEDICINE where the goal is to make sure people have regular checkups and encourage you to go to your doctor if you suspect that anything is wrong as opposed to your system where people will avoid surgery for fear of getting into debt.<br> <br> Finally, you are a perfect example of just how fucking dumb the right wing of your country is. Even after the economic devestation caused by the GOP and their buddies on Wall Street you STILL spew that stupid fucking shit about the free market solving all. Hey, I didn't see Ronnie St. Reagan protecting the FREE MARKET when he removed the regulations and anti-trust laws that prevented companies from buying each other up, creating less competition and the "too big to fail" corporations that have so spectacularly imploded over the last year. In closing, eat shit you fucking tard.
June 24, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
Better this fuck-cunt of a site...I love how I read everything over at Comingsoon, and then like an hour to day later it's here. CLASSY
June 24, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST
by SylarTheCylon
SHIT WAS SO CASH, too bad it's just a cam version for now
June 24, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST
by EDGARWRIGHTS_PROLAPSEDANUS
June 24, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST
by Bartleby T. Scrivener
C'mon Harry. For you to slam the movie is one thing; but for you to bring the "the lowest forms of humor, stereotypes and racism around. Not only that, but its packaged for our children. Which makes it all the more offensive". All of a sudden you're a knee-jerk reactionary?! This from the guy who thinks Hostel 2 is good.
June 24, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
Iran is to Freedom, as Harry is to saying anything worth a shit lately. FACT
June 24, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
June 24, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
Apparently the twins weren't originally supposed to appear in the film. They were written in after a test screening because people were offended by the original Tomb of the Primes scene. You see, originally, instead of the twins fighting and smashing into the wall, it was Shia and Megan who were to be going at it because she was fucking that Mexican guy who served no purpose in the movie except for fucking her. So Shia goes all Ike Turner and smashes that bitch's aging face into the wall. The feminists (who are always ugly bitches) were up in arms, and the blacks really had nothing to say other than, "Why you kill the only black one in part one. We wants anudda, black'n." So to oblige them both, they made the twins. FACT FAC
June 24, 2009, 5 p.m. CST
by Xubius
Seriously, this is the only big summer flick 09' I DID NOT fall asleep too during the second viewing. Bitch, Bitch, Bitch! You guys are nitpicking a Michael Bay movie? I laughed. I was entertained. My obligatorily "brothers from another mothers laughed too" statement inserted here and very true so it makes it PC for me to say, YOU GUYS ARE OLD. Get over yourselves. It was Michael Bay's Transformers 2? What did you expect? Bambi 2? I went to get my Big robot fight on and some hot a$$ on motorcycles. I don't know what you went for? It clearly says PG-13 as well. Would you take your 8 year old to "Angels & Demons". Ok yeah, no video game/toy tie-in but really? Would you want a Tom Hanks as "Robert Langdon" action figure? Whatever, I liked it. Can't wait to pick apart all the great ILM work in HD on my monitors once the BR's are out. As far as the racism goes, hillbillies and rednecks are ok to portray in G rated (Cars) movies but 2 Robots that probably made young minority kids laugh and feel more welcome than made fun of (and I know some fools in Flushing just like them 2) is a travesty? Maybe that picayune crap is still looked at in the way you guys are reacting but not by me and my friends here in Bayside NY. We just see an action packed, funny ass robot destruction summer movie with hot lady a$$ on motorcycles too. :) People crying racism over this only want to perpetuate it. As for the dog/leg humping. My uncles dogs do that all the time and my 5 year old cousin laughs his a$$ off. Maybe it's time to throw in the towel cause you ain't cool and you're old as ?@!# in your opinions. Diceptiwhatevers.....Mobilize!!!
June 24, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
The only people who bitch about racism are people who are racist. FACT
June 24, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST
by Heckles
Or did he act 'black' just the right amount? And why did the holographic cop in the cop car Decepticon have to be white? With a mustache? And why were the Autobots American cars? Racism and ethnocentric overtones. Sad.
June 24, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Every other straight male on set is overcome by the sight of The Mega Fox - Bay just keeps on jizzing as his pumped-up military keeps on rolling out at his command... BAYHEM! HOO-AAH!!!<P> *shakes, comes in his pants*<P> Goddamn, that was good... Bring on more hardware!<P> Is it me, or are fetishes getting weirder in kids' movies? Asexual abstinent boring bastards, and now masturbatory military sequences? GodDAMN...
June 24, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST
by Shaner Jedi
June 24, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST
by kwisatzhaderach
Never mind kids, Kathryn Bigelow, Michael Mann and James Cameron are here to save the cinematic day.
June 24, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST
by ZodNotGod
Good God, u people are fucking retarded! Lucas is a racist? Yeah right...I didnt even know what a Stepppen Fetchit was when the 99 reviews came out, some of them anyway, slamming Jar Jar with that garbage...I think its worse to look for racism when its not there to see it so blatantly. Dumb ass fuckers, all of you who think Lucas and Bay are racists...so goes society, we are now a nation of cry-baby, reactionary, full blown weak ass, PC pussies. FUCk you all.
June 24, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST
by egoing
You gushed over that pile of steaming excrement. It was far more offensive in tone and it was literally a shitty movie. I'm going to enjoy the hell out of TF2 for what it is a trill ride, a big fucking popcron movie. Not an artsy fartsy indie cinema experience. You talk about foul mouths. You are one to talk. You use the word Fuck more than Tony Montana.
June 24, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST
by ZodNotGod
And how can Jar Jar be racist when he's performed by a black man? DUH! Do you think he would drag himself and his race down like that? PC Cunts.
June 24, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
June 24, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
Stepin' Fetchit. Black guy played him too.
June 24, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST
by ZodNotGod
I am sure I will enjoy this now. harry, you have proven to have no crediabilty by accepting free gifts, bribes and whatever else to elicit positive reviews despite the obvious. How for fuck's sake can u dislike this film and love all over "Armageddon?" You sir are an idiot, from your Obama support alone.
June 24, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Sorry guys, I tried to end it but this halfwit asked for it.<p> Chaz honey, you really believe the GOP caused this crash when it was the GOP that has been calling for the reform of Freddie and Fannie for more than a decade now? If by "cause" you mean they didn't do enough to force change onto the lenders and their toxic loan policies, then I would agree with you.<p> Not too long ago John McCain himself attemtped to introduce legislation that would put an end to the toxic loans and fucktards like Barnie Frank and his cronies shouted McCain down before the legislation even made it out of the committee level. McCain predicted EXACTLY the mess we are in today, but here you are incorrectly blaming him and the GOP.<p> Sorry bucky, but the GOP weren't the ones that began this mess 10-15 years ago by "encouraging" the lenders to start giving out these toxic loans to people who never had a chance in hell of paying the loans back (loan welfare anyone?), and the GOP weren't the ones that blocked the legislation that may have stopped this economic tumble before it ever began.<p> There are plenty of other things that I do blame the GOP for, like spending money like drunken sailors over the entirety of Bush's term, but that pales in comparison to Obama's spending so I suppose you wouldn't be critical of that now would you?
June 24, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
He made me hate black voice actors.
June 24, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
...I really didn't want to jump on the fucking politics carousel again. Everyone please bite your tongue and ignore my post so we can avoid another unless and fruitless political bitch session!<p> Fuck why did I have to post that?!?!?
June 24, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST
by Trannyformers_Apologist
Bay tells Associated Press "the Racist bots are for the kids"!<P> In other news Producers and writers blame the the terrible aspects of ROFT on Bay. <P> What does Bay say about the critics?:<P>"C'mon guys critics? Give me a break. Do you all have short term memory? They killed the first one, and it still became a world-wide smash. I made this for the you, the audience!"<P> GOOD JOB BAY
June 24, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST
by ZodNotGod
99% of you assholes need to know the true definition of racist before throwing it around so freely.
June 24, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
Clank clank, nooka....clank clank!
June 24, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST
by Flames gotta Eat
Let's pray bad word of mouth will kill this film in the coming weeks. I do not think it will come close to Dark Knight numbers because what shot DK to the moon were the glowing reviews and WORD OF MOUTH. Which is still extremely important today. Why do you think Hangover is doing as well as it's doing? I see at least a 50% drop in numbers for TF2 by next weekend.
June 24, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST
by ZombieHeathLedger
June 24, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
I don't get, though, why some who didn't care for the first movie, would pay to see the sequel in a theater. Why would you be expecting better from this director? <p> I thought the first Transformers movie had a bit of charm to it, largely due to the Spielberg-influenced 'boy and his car' storyline. I didn't think so much of it that I'd waste $20 in a theater to see the sequel. I'll likely wait for the DVD or HBO. <p> Anyway, the flick is what it is. If I do go with friends I won't be expecting a coherent story or 'acting' from Lebouf or Fox (by the way, is it me or does she, despite her hotness, look really plastic-y?). I also think Bay is over rated as an action director. There are other directors, like Doug Liman, who can shoot a better action sequence. Some of Bay's movies do offer an escapist good time though, even if it is junky, like watching a badly-dubbed Japanese monster movie, which TF was obviously influenced by. <p> Take heart lovers of good stories and cinema, good stories are out there or coming our way. I'm looking forward to Shutter Island, and there are also many fine new novels out there which I encourage you to read.
June 24, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
Of racist caricatures in American History. Blackface, Minstrel shows, and such images as Picaninnies,Sambos, Darkies and Coons. Then maybe you would see where people who have a deeper understanding of America's history might be a little offended by Jar Jar Bink's resemblance to a character that Willie Best might have played, and how just because a black man portrayed him doesn't mean it can't be a racist stereotype (Stepin Fetchit and Amos N' Andy were also played by black people). <p> Lets put it this way - if you saw a bunch of guys wearing arm bands with Swastikas on there arms you might be alarmed, and if they insisted it wasn't because of the Nazis but because they liked Hindu culture you might be a little skeptical because really, who doesn't know about the Nazis. That is how some of us feel - really Lucas, you didn't see the resemblance between Jar Jar and some of the racist characters in the past. You're old enough to know better.
June 24, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST
by Lemure_v2
everything you hated about the movie, Bay stuffed in there because he doesn't give a crap and all he could see before his eyes was BIG BUDGET + 42 ROBOTS + 'SPLOSIONS + MEGAN FOX. That's it, that's all he wants - and I for one love him for making such an over the top and massively flawed film, because he can. Think he wants any awards? Pah!
June 24, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST
by egoing
June 24, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST
by Logan_1973
The same author who endorses BORAT (and BRUNO) for being offensive and vulgar chastises another film for being just that. Harry, either you sold your soul to the devil or you're a solid flopper.
June 24, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST
by Logan_1973
The cartoon had plenty of "black" bots. You purists got exactly what you wanted...
June 24, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST
by kaspianwithak
"In Ways I Thought Unthinkable" holy shit, is Harry funny or what?
June 24, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
That forced Clinton to remove the Glass-Stegall Act (created after the Great Depression which was also caused by Republicans) which was DIRECTLY responsible for the collapse. Oh and John McCain would have saved you with his brilliant legislation? The same John McCain that picked an ignorant know nothing white trash hillbilly from Alaska as his Vice President? The same John McCain that was one of the Keating 5? The same John McCain that was singing BOM BOMB BOM IRAN last year, let's see Mr. I Crashed Five Planes™ sing that to Neda's parents, eh? The same John McCain who said "the fundamentals of our economy are strong" a few months before the crash? The Same John McCain that said, even after the collapse, that there was "too much" regulation.<br> <br>Also, the reason Barney Frank and Sen. Dodd didn't come down on Fannie and Freddie was because those companies were cooking the books and they didn't have the insider information that John McCain corrupt, stubby little fingers got a hold of. So fuck you and your Fox News lies. Oh and of course like the good little drone that you are you trot out the old "they were giving out loans to poor people i.e. minorities which is what YOU REALLY MEAN! <br> <br>The Republican's/GOP/ Conservative's had control of two of the three branches of Government from 1994 to 2006 and control of over all three from 2001 to 2009 and it was during this time that the worst terrorist attack in the country's history happened because Republican's didn't pay attention to the warning's. An entire city was allowed to be destroyed while Bush and McCain ate cake. You fuckers also used 9/11 to start a war with a country that didn't attack you and created a torture program to illicite false confessions in order to justify that war not to mention the illegal wiretapping of dissenters, critics and political opponents never mind that your kind blew the cover of a CIA agent. In short, you are a pathological lair and a piece of shit.
June 24, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST
by toadkillerdog
I do not think Bay is necessarily a racist - but is insensitive as hell, and does not care, because he appeals to the lowest common denominator, and he gets his cheap laughs at the expense perpetuating a historical stereotype. Lucas, on the other hand is an out and out racist who knew damn well what he was doing, and did not care because: 1) he really is a racist, and 2) he felt burned by being forced to include a black man prominently in his first trilogy. After being pilloried for three years after Star Wars. <p> I also blame the writers who felt they could get away with it.
June 24, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Since you fucking tanked the world economy he had to pass the stimulus Bill which is the exact same thing that Clinton did when he took charge which is why there was an economic upswing during his Administration. But fucking morons like you were to preoccupied about where he put his dick. To bad you fucking traitors don't pay that much attention to the 5,000 soldiers that you murdered in a war for oil. My only worry in life is that there is no Hell for you to burn in for eternity.
June 24, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
Please read the talkback before posting.
June 24, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
June 24, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST
by W3bzpinn3r
The only film worse than Transformers 2 is the Street Fighter: Chun Li movie. And at least that wasn't remotely as gutter trash as this piece of "art". I hope when Michael Bay steps up to accept his effects Oscar he is wearing a white hood and burns a cross on the red carpet. This movie pissed me off more than anything in the last decade.
June 24, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
June 24, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST
by toadkillerdog
A somewhat fair point about Harry and Borat, but not entirely because Borat was a comedy that aimed to be offensive as hell. People knew going into it what they were getting. The equivalent is if you went to a Richard Pryor concert in the 70's and were offended at his language and content. <p> Transformers is aimed squarely at kids. It has no reason for such racist stereotypes. And the fact that the cartoon had them does not excuse it either. Plenty of cartoons were offensive or played upon stereotypes. It does not make them right.
June 24, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST
by W3bzpinn3r
Transformers is aimed at kids (it's a 2hr toy commercial, for christ's sake!).<p> Borat is aimed at retarded college students. <p> I dunno about you, but I don't want my 9 year old thinking ANYTHING from Transformers 2 is funny or appropriate. <p> Well, actually, most of the talkbackers would want their kids emulating a Michael Bay film.... bunch of classless, brainless, f'cked up liberals who have so many drugs in their systems and so spoiled by welfare that they don't have braincells anymore...
June 24, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST
by egoing
I think I'm intelligent enough to see a movie and not equate it with the intelligence of African-Americans. The characters are goofy comedic CG created robots. Indiana Jones re: I don't see all modern day Germans as members of the third Reich.
June 24, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST
by kaspianwithak
Harry, this whole motherly attitude doesn't become you. It rings false and sounds sillier than the quote I mentioned earlier. If you don't like the movie, that's fine, if it's juvenile humor flops and it's characters are lifeless, okay. IT'S MOTHERFUCKING MICHAEL BAY MAKING A MOTHERFUCKING MOVIE ABOUT MOTHERFUCKING ROBOTS. we didn't really expect any humanity, and figured the jokes would suck.
June 24, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
June 24, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
Had a really big anti-immigrant sentiment just as the whole political climate was tense regarding that issue. And really awkward and inappropriate lines.
June 24, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST
by toadkillerdog
That is not the point. Sure, you may be smart enough not to equate the twins, and their antics with racist stereotypes: but those racist stereotypes should not be present at all. They serve no purpose other than going for a cheap joke at the expense of perpetuating historical stereotypes. There are far better ways to get humor. This smacks of K and O lazy writing. The same they exhibited in Star Trek. It also smacks of a director who doesnt give a damn either.
June 24, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST
by blhotz
Aintitcool.com is being ripped on numerous other sites for all the "hate" here. About time people noticed... strange it took a Transformers sequel... I'll still gladly visit this site for mostly info but the hate has definitely gotten out of hand especially in talkbacks.
June 24, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST
by bobbofatz
Big ffing deal. There are scenes seeming racist? So what. Everyone is racist. Which makes us all equal. In reality, there is only one race, the human race, but there is to much money to be made from keeping us divided. And the hate for Reps/Cons on this site is breathtaking. Did it occur to some of you that you are hating on a lot of really good people, who may just differ from you in a few superficial ways.
June 24, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
First off, I am a fiscal conservative and socially pseudo-liberal. Which means I believe people should take care of their own damn selves but I am not opposed to helping them socially when they run into trouble through no fault of their own. I believe in social safety nets, I do not believe in cradle to grave socialized welfare for anyone other than those who simply cannot help their situation, such as the mentally disabled. So fuck you motherfucker, I'm no Fox News tit sucker like you so incorrectly jumped on me for.<p> I'm going to address one thing and one thing only from your diatribe because most of it is "Spare Chage" level stupidity and bile that isn't worth commenting on.<p> "...trot out the old "they were giving out loans to poor people i.e. minorities which is what YOU REALLY MEAN!"<p> No you stupid racist fuck, I mean people of any race that cannot afford to pay back a loan period. There are millions upon millions of people who are white that are holding these toxic home loans, ridiculously far more whites than anyone else. The fact that you think it's only minorities is incredibly telling of your racism and bigotry. Of course the fact that they are not giving out these loans to people you assumed were minorities anymore doesn't even register on your radar does it, because it completely and totally shatters your bullshit socialist world view now doesn't it?<p> No one should be able to get a loan if they cannot afford to pay it back period. Where oh where did the myth that anyone should be allowed to buy a home regardless of ability come from? Oh yeah, it was uber-left morons like yourself.<p> I, my wife, our two kids, and our little dog live in an apartment because we cannot afford a home right now. Because we believe it would be irresponsible to attempt to buy a home when we cannot afford to make the payments. I know, I know, the idea of people being responsible is a notion you simply cannot wrap your feeble mind around, but it's something we believe in and live every goddam day.<p>
June 24, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST
by mitortilla
June 24, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
Kindly piss off. <p> I find it off to label people who didn't care for any movie as 'haters'. WTF?? What does that even *mean*? If I hated a particular novel, or magazine article, does that also make me a 'hater'? <p> Please go grow a brain, and *think* something through before you write or say it. <p> I swear, some people just don't seem to have an internal EDIT function before they spout inanities.
June 24, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST
by magic_ninja
The only people getting offended are white people. No one else gives a shit about the racism that does not exist in this movie.
June 24, 2009, 7 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
...apparently I need an 'Edit' button on this site though. (Please, Harry) <p> I meant to write: "I find it odd to label people who didn't care for any movie as 'haters'. WTF?? What does that even *mean*? If I didn't care for a particular novel, or magazine article, does that also make me a 'hater'?
June 24, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
Yes, you probably are an intelligent enough person to not equate it with a certain group. But let me ask you, when you see the crows in Dumbo, do you think they are supposed to represent black people? Or how about the crows in Fritz the Cat or the animals in Coonskin? Do you see them as representing black people or just animals? And if you and others come to the conclusion they are supposed to be representing black people, why is that? <p> Because those cartoon characters displayed traits that have historically been used in stereotypical portrayals of black people. <p> That is the thing about caricatures,they display stereotypical traits. And racist or racially insensitive caricatures (which blacks have had to deal with for a long time) are mostly negative traits. And the thing is many of those (mostly negative) traits appear in both Jar Jar and the Twins. <p> Now you can say it is unintentional, which is a fair argument, but don't say people are reading into something when American film (and especially animation - Coal Black and the Seben Dwarves anyone?) has been using these images and associations for 80+ years to make the connotation between them and people of a certain race. That is like saying people are crazy for seeing Christian imagery in the Neo character from the Matrix just because he is the "one" and he returns from the dead. Even if such imagery wasn't intentional, it is would be very rational for people to notice it and come to a conclusion about what the filmmakers are implying.
June 24, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST
by bobbofatz
June 24, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST
by bobbofatz
You seem to speak truthful. Good luck talking sense into some of these propaganda soaked sponges.
June 24, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
June 24, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
Made my point, and he did with 1/5 the words. <p> Concise my friend. Concise.
June 24, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST
by BMacSmith
Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."<p>kinda says it all about this stinking pile of shit, doesnt it?
June 24, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST
by Sicuv Uyall
Hmmm let's see... I made Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and that made 20 billion for some fuckin reason, so now i'm assuming people love SHIT!! I got away with this a few times before with Hook and Lost World, so why not? Fuck you, moviegoing public, I'm getting paid, bitches!!!
June 24, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST
by Relugus
Saying Transformers can only be dumb because the cartoon was dumb is like saying Batman can only be silly because the 60s TV series was silly. Watch this and tell me Transformers is dumb: http://tinyurl.com/mjs4dg http://tinyurl.com/lvjwkb I would say Transformers has a richer universe and characters than Harry Potter, yet alas TF is treated shoddily in its adaptation. This critic sums up the problem with the film: http://tinyurl.com/m2aqrf On the DVD commentary of the first film Bay says he was initially dismissive of Transformers but saw the light, I suspect that he is still dismissive of the source material but sees it as a way to make money. Bay is a snob who won't take TF seriously, that's why he plasters every scene with "humour", he does so because he has no interest in the Transformers. This is the typical reaction of film-makers who think they are above material. Transformers started as a toyline but grew into something much more via the comics. TF is the only really serious portrayal of robots in pop culture as something more than mindless tools (Terminator) or cute pets (WALL-E, Short Circuit), portraying TFs as pets is a big no-no for me, it totally goes against the concept. The beginning of Revenge of the Fallen was hugely promising, the prologue and opening scenes work well, but as soon as the kitchen bots appear Bay's inability to take it seriously creeps in more and more. After the forest battle, the only set-piece in the film other than the opening which really feels like Transformers, the "Bay cancer" spreads throughout the film, poisoning its bloodstream. Its frustrating because great movies can be made from Transformers. Yes, some of the mythology is there, but its very heavily truncated and squeezed in rather than being at the heart of the film. Optimus, Megatron vs Starscream, and Jetfire (some funny lines but he is never allowed to be serious) work, but the rest of the robot characters are shunted into the background, largely, it seems, so we can see more of Car Car Binks and Bay's "humour". The Pretender is totally pointless. Transformers is about sentient robots, in order for that premise to work, characterisation must be a priority, which is why Bay was the wrong choice to direct.
June 24, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST
by Pixelplays
All the talkbackers who loved Borat shouldn't talk about Transformers as offensive unless you admit Borat was, because Borat simply was. The stuff in Transformers 2 is mild compared to Borat when it comes to offending people. I saw Transformers 2 earlier today and it seemed like an even bigger version of the first Transformers film. The African American audience I was in, for the politically correct who frequent this site, laughed and seemed to love it - many applauding at the end. Have you been to a comedy film aimed at African Americans? This was tame and really not offensive, unless you are a certain PC humorless type. Lots of robots fighting - in fact fans will love it because they won't have to wait. The robot slaughter starts right away. Megan Fox has more to do in 2 and she does it well for a young actress with not a lot of roles yet... I strongly disagree with those who find fault with her... fun bits with the little robot. Shia is fine and they worked his real life hand injury in very well. Great to see Aaron Pierce from 24 playing a general. He has those military and government agent roles down pat. The dogs screwing is silly but the audience I was in laughed loud. Guess the tame souls here have never witnessed it in real life. Lots of explosions, very well shot scenes, and plenty for the chi chi folks who like boring movies on this site to hate. Including Harry who lately I've been disagreeing with. Which is good. The story made sense to me, and flowed OK, and once again I wonder how reviewers here and elsewhere can space out and not follow along. It could've been trimmed of some of the battle stuff, but that's what the movie is really about. Ignore the critics, unless you are really like them, and see this if you want. Once again proof not to take a critics word unless you really are in lockstep with everything they say.
June 24, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST
by pdennett316
And that is that some guy called Joshua has told me I'm not allowed to dislike and criticise a movie on a site built around the idea of discussing film until I become a director. <p> Wowsers, thanks for the lesson. I actually agree about the lack of respect to a certain Mr Orci, but fucked if I can agree with the assertion I can't call a movie crap unless I've made one myself. <p> Fuck it! To get around that, I'm going to film a 5 minute short story based on the love between my left hand and my cock, written, produced and DIRECTED by me. There, now I can have an opinion again...joy! My opinion is that your assertion was bullshit of the highest order and I'll criticise whatever the hell I like.
June 24, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
I don't believe a fucking word of what he says because for his kind reality is optional and facts have a liberal bias. Fuckwads like him will say or do anything to justify their greed and selfishness and that's because he's a sociopath who has a complete lack of empathy for any other human being which is A-typical of the Republican mindset. I don't believe for one second that he's married or has kids because what fucking whore would marry a cuntrag like him and shit out his kids? Not even the Chicken Lady from the end of Todd Browning's Freaks is that desperate.
June 24, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST
by BMacSmith
to crit Bayformers you also have to have millions of dollars from exploiting idiots and do a lot of coke. apologists are so bad at making excuses for this movie.
June 24, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
I don't really see what the big problem is. what about the people that are saying "oh well, one has a gold tooth, they talk in street slang, they can't read, and they're bumbling idiots...why...they must be making fun of black people!" like in this day and age there aren't just as many white people that act the exact same way. second, i think its pretty shitty that most of the people posting on this board are bad mouthing the movie, yet they haven't even seen it for themselves. you can all talk about how you "weep for the future of our country" based on people's opinion of a movie, but at least those people are going out and forming their own goddamn opinions. if everyone acted like you fucking pricks, then america never would have come to be and everyone would be rocking red coats. did i like the movie?? yeah, it wasn't bad. wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it wasn't this godforsaken "abomination" that people claim it to be. its been said many times already, but for fucks sake its a movie about a cartoon from the eighties. did you guys seriously expect it to win an oscar? and i feel bad for the people that say the plot doesn't make sense, you might not have liked it, but it made perfect sense. if you couldn't follow it, then maybe you should wait the Thomas the Train movie coming next summer, maybe that's more your speed.
June 24, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
i would like to hear Spike's opinion on this shit.
June 24, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
June 24, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST
by BMacSmith
this movie sucks balls.
June 24, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
"The only people getting offended are white people. No one else gives a shit about the racism that does not exist in this movie."<p> There's probably an air of truth to that. I wouldn't call it racism exactly, I'd lean more towards bigotry. We should all know by now that there is always a certain amount of truth to stereotypes of this kind, whether they are supposed to be black or wiggers or whatever, that's what usually makes this sort of thing so morbidly funny sometimes. And I would agree that the reaction to this particular stereotypical portrayal may be over the top.<p> From a creative standpoint it's just a WTF thing. Why would alien robots choose this ridiculous behavior to emulate anymore than why would Jazz in TF1 choose to breakdance as he transforms?<p> Creatively the idea is ridiculous knowing the established background of these characters, even in Bay's TF universe, is that they are centuries old battle-hardened warriors...who ingest the internet when they land and apparentely then emulate the absolutely stupidest parts of Earth culture. These warriors chose to emulate wigger/street/whatever culture rather than say Rambo? Yeah that makes sense.
June 24, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST
by FuckMichaelBay
...I defy you to defend Bay after he has brazenly assumed your an idiot lemming that would lap this shit up. Flock to the theater with your children and waste your hard earned money to be insulted, when you could take them to a baseball game for the same amount.
June 24, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST
by StrokerX
there's at least 20 more reasons why this movie sucked.<p> and will someone tell me why the hell did the decepticons bring sams parents out to the set from transformers 1? why were they there!?
June 24, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
i assume you mean the desert scene?? they brought them out as a distraction, kind of like ransom thing, its harder to fight when you have to protect people too.
June 24, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST
by Ator
I've loved transformers since the 80s and was really planning on seeing this. I didn't expect it to be good. I just wanted big robots hitting each other. I'm not going to go now. The fear of giving Bay one more penny to make another film is horrifying enough to keep my away from Fallen until one of my friends rents it someday.
June 24, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST
by vezner2007
Sign me up. All I want and expect out of this movie is huge robots kicking the shit out of each other. If it delivers that, then I will consider my $10 well spent on the movie ticket. I don't care about the other characters in the slightest. BTW, the new Terminator was a fucking AWESOME movie...and Harry hated it. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to really like this new Transformers movie.
June 24, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
June 24, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST
by StrokerX
See, I don't even remember that part. The whole desert scene was a big blur of random robots being shown for a second and people running away from explosions.<p> I was pretty sad that I kept yawning and actually thought..."Man when is this over?" This movie was kinda poo poo.
June 24, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
LOL!!!!! good call buddy.
June 24, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Wow, are people supposed to take you seriously after your last several posts? You're a bigger stereotype than Car Car Binks here. I'm having trouble believing you're a real person at this point. FFS!<p> And fuck you right in your stupid goddam ass for the comments about my family and for suggesting I lack empathy for my fellow man. Building homes in Mexico, feeding Mexican orphans with my own hands, and doing years of charity work down there gives me the right say I hope you get AIDS and die you ignorant fuckrag. Enjoy some prostate cancer while your at it you fucking waste of oxygen.<p> Too bad you aren't here face to face so I could go Will.I.Am on your Perez Hilton like soft ass. No doubt in my mind you would crumble like tin foil when presented with a real confrontation, you cowardly internet tough guy. I'm officially done responding to your ignorant, RACIST nonsense. Enjoy the AIDS and cancer, expect zero more responses from me.
June 24, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST
by liquids
Ummm, why is Optimus Prime taking out decepticons like a drugged up crazy man?? Ripping off faces, shooting already defeated guys in head, pulling spines, punching in neck, etc just a lot of unnessary brutality. Cant Bay do action with out overkill?? I dont think Superman, Batman or Spidey would act like this in fact they havent in there movies. So why is are hero Optimus fighting like this? Not very hero like..... FUCKING BAY
June 24, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST
by StrokerX
the green one...I dont remember his name...he's kinda crouching down and shooting from the hip behind the humans in the desert scene...kinda looked like a Gundam.<p> Yeah I liked that part....so I guess it didn't totally suck...and since when (SPOILER) do they have human transformers? arent they then just terminators?
June 24, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
i agree, it wasn't the greatest but i got what i wanted out of it, so i'm not gonna trash it. they could have done without the whole college part for sure though! holy shit! two people on this site talking about a movie without getting at each others throats!!! i'm shocked!
June 24, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST
by StrokerX
Oh and Ravage was cool...but that robot he spits out...i couldnt tell if it was floating or if it like was balancing on a tail or wtf it was....
June 24, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
i know exactly what part you mean, and yes he looked cool. and the forest fight was sick. pretty much anything without fighting sucked, but thats not why i wanted to see it.
June 24, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST
by TurdontheRun
What? Jar Jar-ese was Jamaican Patois, was it? And I bet Watto was a veiled send-up of money-grubbing jews, wasn't he? Or was he Italian? No one could decide! You couldn't resist another stab at Lucas could you, Harold? One thing I always liked about him is that he never pandered to geek sites like this. Believe me, if Lucas had showered AICN with 'pwesents' then Harold would have been eating out of his hand forever more, instead of harboring a perpetual grudge.<p> No doubt Bay's latest shit-bomb opus has distateful elements, but his whole resume is in extreme bad taste and an insult to viewers, so what else is new?! He's the king of tacky, sugar rush, cinematic junk food, and it seems this time out even the general public have gorged themselves to vomit-level on his cinematic turdburgers. But that's no reason for Harold to come out with racist allegations - and its no reason to bring tiresome diatribes about Lucas' supposed racial caricatures out of the closet straight from 1999, by apparent 'association' (Lucas deserves far more respect, for many reasons, than Mikey 'lord of cinematic tat' Bayhem). <p>This site is hardly the bastion of good taste, morality, or even common sense. You've got no integrity, on any level or on any issue fat man, so stick to bizarre, sticky doughnut-fuelled metaphors about chocolate-covered pussy juice, and leave serious issues to intelligent people.
June 24, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
was like the coolest character lol. when he was shooting at the soldiers and hopping back and forth he looked awesome. i'm gonna train my dog to do that
June 24, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST
by #1 Zero
I haven't seen the movie but after the reviews I've read, I don't want to see it. I will probably agree with Harry after seeing it (on cable next may or june probably) but I will say this is his most lucid posting in a while. It's straightforward, lacking lewd commentary and doesn't drift into weird asides (I'm looking at you Marley and Me posting). It's weird that this site's reviews mostly refer to the racial stereotypes and maybe Arfican American comedies and Airplane are laughing with African American stereotypes while a movie like transformers isn't a parody and possibly therefore shouldn't present a stereotype at all. And I know Airplane was written by white people and maybe some of the African American comedies are too, but maybe it's just that Michael Bay is doing this that it smacks of having a racist bent. Maybe I'm just too harsh on Bay, but I read in an esquire or GQ interview where he parked his sports car in a handicapped spot during the interview for pete's sake. Sounds like a great guy.
June 24, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST
by Karimkai
From what I've been reading here for years on the AICN forums is that everyone, the majority, hates something and always try to bully someone who thinks differently. TRANSFORMERS ROTF is just another example. Now I'm not gonna get one some STFU haters mode, but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and thinks the others stink. This is true but try to explain yourself on why the hate is there, not some "michael Bay sucks" tirade. I liked the film, there I said it, I didn't mind all the "dreaded explosions", "racist robots" or so-called "mess of a story". It was sid in the first film that the Autobots/decepticons were millions of years old so it was no surprise to me that their was ancient autonomous robotic organisms before the ones we all know and love. I noticed the little touches from G1 in the movie such as The Matrix of Leadership, energon and definitely the Megatron and Starscream's rivalry. loved Starscream's G1 cowardice was present here too. Plain and simple , I liked the film and that doesn't make me anomally, just willing to accept my own beat I dance to.
June 24, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
after every battle? How tall is Prime anyway. He was tall as the pyramid in one shot, but at the graveyard he was smaller than tombstone.
June 24, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST
by StrokerX
Actually...at that graveyard scene optimus is all dirty and even has mud caked on his windshields.
June 24, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST
by Helsinki_Hal
couldn't have said it better myself. People arguing about soundwave being a satellite. like they really wanted him to be a tape deck? how bout the fact that starscream is an f-22 and not an f-15. Things change for a reason, not to mention, soundwave did about as much in this movie as he did in the old show, he spit out little trasformers to do his dirty work. what else do you want?
June 24, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST
by orcus
But you used to love Jar Jar
June 24, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST
by egoing
I can't possibly know the mindset of Disney writers/Animators had in the 1940's. It is a fact Societal norms are very much different today. Ralph Bakshi was/is a maverick. He didn't care who he offended. So, I don't know if we can apply this to someone who pretty much told society to fuck off in general.
June 24, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
All hallmarks of a GOP D-bag. Years of charity work in Mexico HAHAHAHAHA you fucking liar. If you ever were in Mexico it was more then likely for underage boys to ass fuck. A person who devotes oh so much time helping the poor of Mexico and yet you have no sympathy for the poor of your own country? If your gong to lie then at least make up something that sounds plausible for a member of the GOP like shitting in a cup and giving it to a blind orphan who's hungry, you wife beating, dog fucking, child molester. FFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK YYYYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!
June 24, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST
by Karimkai
I think it's Ratchet's work if it after battle But if you talking about how they look tarnished when robotic compared to vehichle form flawless look, I think it's just a ILM or storywise ploy to make them look more defined and less artificial for the camera by giving them flaws in robot form maybe
June 24, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST
by Karimkai
Thanks...Soundwave's voice was close enough too. Liked that he's still up there waiting, and keeping the Decepticon's "in the know" even as the movie's over. i wonder if TF3 is made, will Blaster, the Autobot's version of soundwave, be introduced? or even UltraMagnus and Hot Rod?
June 24, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST
by filegumbo
I love these posters who make a one sentence, drive-by comment and end it with FACT. As if your insightful analysis is beyond reproach, and there is no logic that can overcome it. "The only people who bitch about racism are people who are racist. FACT"--OOOOKAY SlapStickJim. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I am enlightened.
June 24, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST
by SpeakerForTheDead
Just the way things roll on AICN. Personally, 90% of what Harry seems to report on comes off as BS anyways. It's biased, obviously, from his point of view. I find nothing wrong with enjoying a bad movie so long as you have fun. Hell, this is a movie based on a cartoon that ripped off it's premise from two defunct Japanese toylines so they could reissue them and sell it to American kiddies. It worked on me. Hoist was a fricking actor in one episode of the cartoon. OMFG! That's so lame, blah blah blah. With years and years of contradicting source material I'm just happy seeing Optimus on the big screen. Would you prefer gorilla Beast Wars Prime? Wasn't Jazz pretty much a walking talking stereotype? Fuck people, if you enjoy it then cool, if you hated then cool. One person's opinion doesn't matter vs another, you know? Especially Harry. His movie tastes suck.
June 24, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST
by Karimkai
Well said. Optimus' presence and impact as a leader and warrior were well shown in this movie as well as the fact he no longer wasn't hesitant to battle his "brother" Megatron. Prime made Megs look like the menacing oppotunist-yet fearsome Decepticon leader we saw in G1
June 24, 2009, 8:17 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
I started doing it as a homage to Lloyd Kaufman's book All I Need to Know about Filmmaking I Learned from the Toxic Avenger. At the end of one of his ridiculous stories he ends it with the word FACT.
People who say "its based on a 80s cartoon" are morons. That's like saying Batman is "based off a camp 60s TV show". Like the 60s Batman shows, the 80s Transformers cartoon is ONE interpretation of Transformers. The numerous (vastly superior) comics are equally valid interpretations. FFS imagine if Chris Nolan had the same attitude to Batman that some posters here have to Transformers.
June 24, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST
by filegumbo
You started this...damn you! Well, as the originator of so epic a closing phrase, you are the only one who can use it. I kinda preferred "Fuck first posters, fuck them up their asses," but that hasn't been used in a long time.
June 24, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST
by bonesMD
stand by your convictions dudes.
June 24, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST
by Karimkai
....and some people may not like the "interpretation" of Transformers but heck, we shouldn't try to make one another sound like a moron for haven't different opinions. I'm glad it payed homage but didn't imitate the "80's cartoon" where they are immune to human weaponry, could have destroyed humanity but chose just to fight one another and never get killed until the animated movie. In place we got these two films that were good to me. Fighting machines that posed a direct threat to humanity, showing their true destructive nature and the consequence of their war. Remember how the human world of the G1 series were like power rangers, magically rebuilt after every giant robot fight? No the movie. Thank god we didn't get the 60's Bat, wait a minute we did..ask Joel Shumacher
June 24, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Back in late 2007 and Motoko Kusanagi, Ceiling Cat bless him, has been running with it ever since. I'm a virtual catchphrase machine, FUCK ME, I should be writing Transformers 3 and taking it in both ends like Bob Orci does from Spielberg and Bay.
June 24, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST
by GForce05
I used to think the same thing that Harry thought, that Mudflap and Skids were racists stereotypes, but than I remembered that the African American community elevated Soulja Boy to idol status, a guy who can barely speak English and is worse than any black face act Whites have ever put out, EVER, and then I remembered how this wasn't an isolated incident, and how the African American community makes heroes out of those kinds of people, over and over and over again, the latest examples being T-Payne, Akon, that Jamacan douche who sings that song about taking his "girl to the slums" and the chorus of his new song goes "she's cool like fire. COOL LIKE FIRE!!" Idiot doesn't even know that fire is hot, and I'm supposed to complain because some black guy voiced a robot who can't read?!? Give me a break.
June 24, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Could you provide some elaboration? How does it work? I freelance in the film and video industry, would I qualify?
June 24, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
and here is my verdict: <P> Hairy. You parroted all the standard Republican talking points with strong conviction. <P> Charles. You effectively debunked every last talking point with deadly precision. You made a great, patriotic case for a public healthcare plan. <P> Charles wins. <P> You have been fatwa'd.
June 24, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST
by Karimkai
I hate Autotune!!! Soulja Boys sux and I'm ashamed my fellow people think it's hot music, hot shit...I was desensitized the Skids and Mudflap by the crows in Dumbo, The screaming Black dolphins of Family Guy and years of other crap that's exploited my people. It's sad many of us would rather see a fiend like R.Kelly free because "they like his music" which started sucking many moons ago if you aske me...back to the topic, Lil Wayne's even worse and many think he the best? WTF?
June 24, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
June 24, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
That are ripping into AICN? I wanna know!
June 24, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST
by thegeorger
It amazes me how people are actually angry with him and verbally bashing him... Real classy folks. It's easy to be a know it all when you hide behind a username, but Bob Orci (assuming it's him) was kind enough to come by and share some info and thoughts with us even though people were giving him shit, many of which likely haven't even seen the movie yet. Well Bob, I hope you don't let a few douche bags stop you from commenting here in the future. I was a fan of the first Transformers, cause I knew the kind of movie I was going to see, and I enjoyed it on that level, a fun action flick. So I hope I enjoy the sequel the same way when I go see it tomorrow night.
June 24, 2009, 9 p.m. CST
by GForce05
The only people I can see who are making an issue out of Mudflap and Skids are White! The African American community are seeing Mudflap and Skids and nodding their head thinkin', "finally some robots that represent us!" The most famous African American's in music culture are all much worse than Mudflaps and Skids: Soulja Boy, the Ying Yang Twins, T-Payne, Lil Wayne, etc... I have always thought that South Park should do a Soulja Boy episode where they find out that Soulja Boy is really a white clansman in black face trying to give African American's a bad name, but how can you deny the obvious. There really is a segment of the community that really does behave like Mudflap and Skids and they are PROUD of it! Racism? Then what do you can a 14 year-old African America dancing around like an idiot while rapping "Watch me super soak that HOE! Super soak that HOE! Superman that HOE!" Talking about spraying down women in semen while HIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY, ADULTS, MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN CLAP AND MAKE HIM A MILLIONAIRE? I'm talking about Soulja Boy by the way.
June 24, 2009, 9 p.m. CST
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
June 24, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Fred would like to respond to your post -specifically the part about The "African American Community elevated Soulja Boy". Fred heartily disagrees with that assumption. There is no monolithic mind think in the African American Community. Sure, some Blacks liked Soula Boy, just as some Blacks liked Clarence Thomas. Maybe more liked Soulja Boy than Clarence Thomas, but that does not mean that the "African American Community" elevated him. A segment did. Just as as segment of whites elevated the Jonas Bros. <p>
June 24, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST
by FuckMichaelBay
June 24, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Everytime I heard something I didn't like.
June 24, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Repeating and rapping offensive lyrics, as you do blacks. It does not make it right, but it does mean that you can not pigeonhole one ethnic group any longer. <p> Rap and hip hop have become universal. M&M anyone?
June 24, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST
by orcus
Long time Orcus no see. Long time Orcus didn't see alot of folks come to think of it
June 24, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST
by nyj_et
...on BOOTLEG DVD!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! I hope it was shot in a russian theater, with subtitles with people getting up to buy popcorn and sodas!!! I'm not gonna spend a dime on this, but I'm going to watch it for free and talk about how crappy it is and make fun of it. HATE! HATE! HATE! BOOTLEG DVD!
June 24, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
by Boborci
"I hope you don't let a few douche bags stop you from commenting here in the future. "<p> Not at all, being an occasional douchebag is the fun of a talkback and I reserve the right to be a douchebag, too. All part of the fun!
June 24, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
by SlapStickJim
Must suck that you will never make films to the calibur of he who walks on HIGH...THE BAY! BOW BITCHES at his majesty, and blaspheme no more!
June 24, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Hello! Fred is very happy to see you posting. It has indeed been quite a while. Fred thought you might have gotten lost doing you mystic time traveling.
June 24, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
by GForce05
Ok fine. A segment of the community. Fine. But your mistake is comparing Jonas Brothers to Soulja Boy. I'm not a fan of either, but the Jonas Brothers could easily do what Soulja Boy does - dance around and poorly rhythme words together, whereas Soulja Boy definitely could NOT do what the Jonas Brothers do - actually play instruments and sing in tune.
June 24, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
by orcus
Newfangled tings catch Orcus' eye
June 24, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
And raised the question is Bay making a racist stereotype or is ridiculing a culture and trend that he doesn't like - hip-hop/urban/ghetto rap culture. I guess the question is does he seem to be acting like Michael Richards or is he acting like Chris Rock and his whole "Keeping it real...real stupid!" skit.
June 24, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST
by orcus
June 24, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST
by nyj_et
He's a musician trained in numerous instruments. Including piano and drums.
June 24, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Fred has a question, and please forgive Fred if you have answered this before. Were you responsible for painting such a broad and out of date stereotype, or was it an improv by the voice actors that was allowed to stay in the final cut?
June 24, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
He was letting starving Mexican children suckle on his bitch tits and starring in a donkey show.
June 24, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
If he is the real Bob Orci, I just imagine him at a keyboard with a big smug grin on his face as he types.
June 24, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST
by Snake Foreskin
I can't believe somebody said that.
June 24, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Hee hee. <p> Fred has been absent from the boards for a while.
June 24, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST
by GForce05
Yeah, Eminem sucks. His music is an embarrassment. Even Lil Wayne is more talented than Eminem. I'm not going to disagree. The fact that people call either the greatest rapper alive says volumes about the sorry state of hip-hop. Tupac4life.
June 24, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST
by Snake Foreskin
Was Austin Powers a racist movie? They made tons of jokes about his bad teeth. By Harry's logic, it was racist against Brits. Did Harry pop a zit over it? I think not. Get a life, screwjobs.
June 24, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST
by Snake Foreskin
Are you serious? Wanker!
June 24, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
For every Black performer that you or Fred might find "offensive", Fred is certain that an equal number of white performers can be found. The difference is, that the some want to label an entire community (African American) by the actions of a few.
June 24, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST
by GForce05
I don't think Bay is making fun of the hip-hop/urban/ghetto community at all! I think he is paying tribute to them to make money! It just so happens that hip-hop culture is such an embarrassment that any attempt at tribute seems like a bad stereotype, because that is basically what hip-hop culture is at this point. Case in point: Soulja Boy.
June 24, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST
by Continentalop
...a good natured joke aimed at a British caricature and a joke that brings up a hundred years of slanderous stereotypes, I ain't going to take the time to explain it. But I will give you a hint - one laughed with them, one seems to be laughing at them.
June 24, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST
by orcus
It was bound to happen
June 24, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Been awhile.
June 24, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Fred thinks some people are too quick to use the word "racist" when in fact it should be "racially insensitive". Fred does not believe that it is the duty of a Director or writers to provide "sterling examples of racial pride" in their movies. And broad ethnic based humor has it's place and can be very entertaining. But when only the stereotype is presented (which should not be case at all -hence the insensitivity) then you are left with an unbalanced view point, which can lead some folks into really thinking "hey African Americans really behave that way". When in fact, the only knowledge they have of such alleged behavior comes from TV and movies.
June 24, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST
by 2007
it's really easy to talk about the need for great story and plot... How a film is hard to watch if it doesn't commit to real drama of any sort, and ruins any sense of real tension with Comedic Beats Then why the fuck does EVERYONE around love the EVIL DEAD series? why is Hangover the runaway hit with the critics(not just on here) it's called going into a movie and knowing it's a comedy, a bruce campbell film. it's not shakespere,it's fun, just as any comedy is fun. but then of course, how can you earn your strips as a critic if you don't do the impossible...point out the story and acting flaws is a bay summer movie kudos
June 24, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Republican talking points? Conservative maybe, I find very little to admire within the Republican party. I dunno if there's a party for my beliefs exactly, but I've heard it called constructionist or constitutionalist.<p> So your gonna criticize me for using "Rep talking points" (as if) but give him a pass for parroting Keith Olberman and Michael Moore? LMFAO, ain't that rich? Very neutral evaluation of what I shudder to even call a debate considering the bullshit he levelled at me.<p> But seriously, a patriotic argument for healthcare? Now that's hilarious, he's a fucking Canadian, a person who sucks on the teet of grandma government for his entire life, from a country whose population is a tenth of the US's but thinks for some reason that their opinion matters oh so much more than anyone else's. A country whose population hates us for being capitalists, but can't sustain their own economy without our capitalism as a foundation.<p> Canada, America's hat!<p> (and I sincerely apologize to any other Canadians here, I think Michael Bay's use of stereotypes has had a negative influence on me)
June 24, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
How you have to write your scripts phonetically and as monosyllabically as possible for Mr. Bay to read and understand while also including little cartoon stick figures with air bubbles above their heads next to anything involving dialogue so Bay knows that those are for the second unit to shoot. Then tell us if he let you smell his fingers so you could know what Megan Fox's dirty snatch smelled like? Or did everyone involved in this movie fuck her until cum was spewing out of her mouth, rancid cunt and engorged asshole like Old Faithful? P.S. have you got the newest edition of Studio Executive Cocksucking and Shit Writing for Retarded Fucksticks™ since I assume that Screenwriting for Dummies is a little above your reading level?
June 24, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST
by orcus
Orcus took a bit of a hiatus, still lurked though. What did Orcus miss?
June 24, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
sometimes refers to himself in the third-person, and is not above trolling on occasion
June 24, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST
by thegeorger
That was touching, I think you just inspired me to write a movie called "The Occasional Douchebag"
June 24, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
That's all. But you're back just in time for the great Bayformers Battle Royale.
June 24, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
...that post to Orci was actually pretty goddam funny (especially the first half), but Jesus Christ lay off a little so he'll talk to us.
June 24, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
You fucking plant.<br> And Bob Orci, please kill yourself. That is all.
June 24, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Fred was third person speaker for quite a while, Fred glad you are back.
June 24, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST
by orcus
Orcus' luck, the Apocalypse will include his 37th banning
June 24, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
I'd see it. Sounds like a lot of people I know.
June 24, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST
by orcus
Now all we need is JPT, Lost Jarv, Xiphos and a few others
June 24, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Was that during that who ShitGirl debacle? Or was that the first?
June 24, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Though I think JPT has dropped out for awhile due to... differences with the rest of us.
June 24, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST
by thegeorger
To be fair only one line of the post was directed at Orci, and you missed the point... I find it interesting hearing what professionals in the industry have to say about their material (again, assuming it's actually Bob Orci), I DON'T care to hear a bunch of faceless pricks spout off every insult they can think of, with no real point. I can go to any random forum or talkback on the net for that.
June 24, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST
by orcus
Orcus forgets. Still trying to get the dents out of his pointy eared skull
June 24, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST
by orcus
What happened there?
June 24, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Fred has been absent for a while, what happened with Just Pillow Talk?
June 24, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST
by darius25
... when u can get crazy bot on bot action, driving a train thru Michael Bay ahem...
June 24, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST
by orcus
It seems the party is in thread 41375
June 24, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST
by Anna Valerious
...that the Farrelly Brothers are secretly directing half of these movies. I thought the marijuana brownie part was hilarious, dammit. And come on, the granny flipping the bird from the first one (Homer Simpson's definition of 'quirky') is total Farrelly.
June 24, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
ganymede3010, weren't you one of the guys defending this movie a few days ago, or am I wrong?<br> If so, this movie must be REALLY bad.
June 24, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
How many Canadian banks have failed? Oh, that's right, ZERO and that's because we have a financial industry that is maintained through regulations that are strict while allowing the free flow of capitalism unlike the US system which is corrupt to it's core because little greedy rats like you have to fuck everything up for everyone else.<br> <br>"sucks on the teet of grandma government", another clue that you are GOP scum as that has been the talking point of Republican cocsuckers since that piece of shit Ronald Reagan was making anti-government healthcare PSA's about how a free healthcare system would lead to communism which is ironic since it was St. Ronnie that created the conditions that would allow companies to buy each other out until you had 4 or 5 multinational conglomerates owning everything because Wall Street style capitalism is really communism in disguise never mind that cum gobbling ass bandits such as yourself didn't seem to mind Bushco. socializing Wall Street's 750 billion dollar losses nor do you complain how 900 billion dollars of you money is spent on a military to protect you from people with box cutters never mind that you are more then likely to die from being killed by your wife once she gets tired of you beating her, molesting the kids and fucking the dog then you are ever to die in a terrorist attack you fucking coward.<br> <br>I'll also assume that you live in a Red State, probably one of the ones that still allows you to marry your 12 year old sister, since white trash GOP'ers always complain about states taking their taxes to put into the pockets of poor people (i.e. minorities) when it is a statistical FACT that Blue States have been carrying you inbred fucking deadbeats for years if not decades because your local economy can't get by on moonshine and assrape. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKK YYYYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!
June 24, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST
by theycallmemrtibbs
June 24, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST
by Trannyformers_Apologist
For the kids...... <P>Money equals quality
June 24, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
That dropped out bc of disagreements with us. It was someone else, and right now I'm forgetting his name. Damn these dirty Arnold Palmers.
June 24, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
Why did I think you had been banned during all the crap that went down in the ScriptGirl talkbacks last summer?
June 24, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST
by Eddie_T_Head
I'm new to posting but I wanted to say thank you to Harry for this site I do read it everyday but this is the first time I felt I needed to comment. With that being said I have read the articles about this and I am shocked at the out come. So let me get this right so called "hip hop" street talk is portrayed by robots in this movie and people are crying racist? Who is more racist you just accused all people who speak slang are of colour? What??? That seems racist to me. Last time I checked street slang and hip hop slang is spoken by people of all colors. So how is poking Fun Of a culture (hip hop whatever you want to refer to it as) Suddenly a race? So I guess thAt meAns groundkeeper Willie needs to be pulled of the air cause he is a racist view of Scottish people. It's a stereotype of a culture Harry not a race. Not all Irish peoe eat potatos and get drunk either. I feel people are kneejerking the PC boat. To further illustrate my point I shall now direct you to a insane clown posse fan most are shite and sound no different than skids or mudflap.
June 24, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST
by orcus
Which thread was it?
June 24, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST
by Eddie_T_Head
I'm writing from my iPhone and i typed "shite" at the end there I meant " white" sorry about that.
June 24, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
While fat people bitch about the planet eating Unicron.
June 24, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
June 24, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST
by thegeorger
You give Americans a bad name buddy... You clearly have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to Canada... Or your own country for that matter. Canada is an amazing country, and you are a ignorant douche. America needs Canada just like Canada needs America, anyone who doesn't get that is a moron.
June 24, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
I've already screwed up two stories. Orcus, the ScriptGirl thing was last summer. I wasn't there (perhaps that's why I'm remembering this wrong), but apparently, when she first started out, a bunch of people called her out on her shit, some made a bunch of crude jokes at her expense, and a LOT of people got banned, many people very undeservedly so. I thought you were one of those lost during the SG debacle. I thought your name was mentioned around then. It must have been for something else...
June 24, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
...if y'all write a third.
June 24, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST
by orcus
Seriously Orcus doesn't understand why she's here. Is she now a part of AICN because it appears she has her own thing going on. Nice tits though
June 24, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
I'd like an extreme long shot of an all out robot battle royale. But with Bay, chances of my seeing that are very slim.
June 24, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST
by D.Vader
And that's the problem. Harry likes to pretend she is and likes to sell her to us like she's doing all these columns for us... but its all still bullshit. She makes these videos to get noticed and she makes them for YouTube. That's all. Harry just embeds them here. But he likes to lie and pretend she's part of the gang. <p> I will agree, she does have some nice tits. But that doesn't take away from the fact that she doesn't belong here.
June 24, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST
by MICHAEL_BAYS_BLACK_FRIEND
He brought me to his crib, yo, and he said I heard you like black people, so let's put a black person in a Transformer, dawg, and pimp that robot out. Sometimes Mike let's me hang out at his bbqs, and he tells me how much he likes The Wire and rap music. It's cool!
June 24, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST
by holen2junior
well what I have to say Is that I see stuff like this every fucking day. seriously, their just goofy heroes that see in comic books or t.v. shows It just harmless fun
June 24, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST
by orcus
This looks like it will get ugly, no need for a 38th banning. Why does trouble follow Orcus?
June 24, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST
by Exterminans
"honestly I'm not in it to be experience a story that will blow my mind.. I'm in it to see stuff from my childhood realized in a ooo that looks fucking awesome kinda way, and that's why I enjoyed it: That attitude from the average filmgoer is why Hollywood doesn't bother to raise it's own standards when it comes to summer movies. The audience doesn't give a shit so why should they.
June 24, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST
by VonThunderballs
It was still a pretty fun movie to watch. Take it for what it is: a popcorn movie. you're reading too much into things bud.
June 24, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST
by Moviegimp
This talk back is just like the movie, loud, dumb and full of bad language.
June 24, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST
by gusradio
has the river I'm crying made it to Texas yet? Ah shucks a ding dang doo, thems robotz'r all the racists type. I need to cut it with the redneck stereo typin' me damn self. Oh wait. I'm sure Martin King is rolling in his grave over this, like for reals yo! You do realize they probably included those "Hip Hop" robots in a shallow attempt to appeal to a demographic? Ah who gives a fuck? I did however,want to see this movie fail on it's true tortured weakness, not the 7th crappy thing down the list.
June 24, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST
by shartron
Pure garbage. I didn't know there was a mountain range by the Smithsonian. Same goes with the scene that says "New Jersey" on the screen and you clearly see mountains in the distance. Lazy filmmaking. The parents should have been disemboweled so we wouldn't have to hear their annoying one-liners. Turturro was embarassing along with every visual "gag" already stated previously. And the tagalong roomie was a hoot!
June 24, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST
by Exterminans
<p>It can barely even be called a film.</p> <p>All involved should be ashamed of this shit.</p>
June 24, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Reading a review from Steven Lebowitz and he quotes South Park : <p> "...A couple of years ago the television show "South Park" put out a 3-part episode entitled, "Imaginationland" that went on to win an Emmy. In the episode, terrorists have taken over our imaginations in Imaginationland and the US government enlists the help of some Hollywood filmmakers to help come up with ideas to help stop the terrorist. One of the directors they enlist to try to help them was Michael Bay. <p> Michael Bay offers some great actions sequences which anger a general to say, "Those aren't ideas. Those are special effects!" A confused Michael Bay replies, "I don't understand the difference." "I know you don't", says the general."
June 24, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST
by ReportAbuse
We know they're exaggerations but if there wasn't any truth to them they would be unrecognizable and baffling. In the media's paranoia to avoid any intimation of offense, we end up with (e.g.) commercials where ONLY the white man can be the butt of the joke.
June 24, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST
by Lauryn2000
Once a year I leave my mark,just came back from seeing Prime and friends.Action?Lots of it...did it make any fuking sense??HELL NO...and that's what "summer blockbusters" are all about.Now being a black female,I did not take The Twin to be racial parody,after all Autobots learn everything,from downloadinf shit from the world wide web.Somehow these two found their way on some idiots My Space..MudFlaps sure sounded like Paul Wall.Megan Fox was purely "eye candy" in this one,losing her "hot wire/grap the tow truck" moment she had in the first film. Transformers reminded me of Bad Boys II which had to be the most FOUL MOUTHED movie,I ever watched in a theater. It is what it is,if you were looking for "Dark Knight" type-sequel...I guessed you got "Pawned",if you went in to see shit get blown up and Chevy's new line up of cars (coming to a checy dealer near you) than you was in for a treat......why must every summer movie be "The Notebook"..?? I'm audi...til next year..I think..
June 24, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST
by darthwaz1
in the later episodes...how fucking gay was that?
June 24, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Most stereotypes are culled from the most extreme and negative behavioral trait. They are far from the norm, but because they become associated with a particular group, over time they become an 'accepted' way of thinking about that group. Their( the stereotype) legitimacy comes not from the truth, but from the acceptance of it as truth because it has been reinforced in mass media and pop culture over time.
June 24, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST
by Logan_1973
To me are throwbacks to the cartoon, which had severeal characters with african-american qualities, and served little other purpose than to provide laughs. The purists asked for more cartoon stuff, they got it.
June 24, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Bill Maher was recently talking about Greed not being good, referring of course to that quote from Gordon Gekko from Wall Street. He then goes on to talk about how our problem in relation to greed is the common thread to our financial meltdown, climate chage and healthcare. Its definetely worth a look and Bill is on the mark. <p> Bay seems to be the personification or "greed is good", more and more, excess is better. Its this criticism of Bay which has been a common thread throughout the reviews. <p> "Why have a tight 100 minute movie, lets expand it out to 151 minutes. Why have 10 or so robots we can really focus on, give me 40+. More explosions, more, more, MORE!!!" <p> But then again Bay has always been like this, you give a guy tonnes of money, who is known for a lack of constraint, and spending up big, the outcome is expected. <p> From a Studio perspective, does anyone oversee him, or is it a case of "you made tonnes of money last time, go for it and make tonnes of money this time", is there micromanagement, project reviews etc ?
June 24, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST
by grandlarseny
This is honestly the first time I've felt frustrated with this website. I saw TF2 today, and I basically enjoyed the hell out of it. The whole crowd was in to it and even applauded at the end. YES, there is some stupid, low-brow humor that I found annoying. But you know what? I DON'T FUCKING CARE! I came to the theater to see giant fucking robots fight each other and that's exactly what I got. As far as the racism goes... This honestly never occurred to me once in my viewing of TF2. I found the twins a little obnoxious and unnecessary but I didn't realize they were apparently some kind of racial slur? This sounds more like someone who was prepared to hate this movie looking for things to hate about it. Yeah, the movie is seriously flawed in ALL THE SAME WAYS EVERY MICHAEL BAY MOVIE IS. The sweeping, epic shots of people who are just standing there. The obnoxious exposition, the crappy dialogue. Whatever. The point is I had a blast watching this movie. It will not win any awards and I didn't expect to see a movie like that. What this movie DID have was seriously awesome action, transformers looking for energon, some awesome backstory about the transformers' species, and that dynamic between Megatron and Starscream that I was missing in the first movie. Harry, did you hate the original cartoon movie as well? Did you think Arcee (the female motorcycle autobot) was misogynistic? Do you remember when Bumblebee said "oh shit!" in a children's movie? Cuz if you did hate that movie, then fine, I guess you were predisposed to hate this one too. The thing that gets me is you're using this "racism" thing (that I really didn't see, but maybe I'm just a moron) like it makes your opinion untouchable. Like, "how can anyone say they liked the movie now that I've said it was racist?" Ugh
June 24, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST
by Pixelsmack
After reading all these there is no way she is seeing this. TF1 was borderline here and there but this is just unacceptable. There's was subtle racism at the start of TF1 with the entire "hey mammy" salesmen scene. Always made me shift a little especially when the two black ladies behind me in the theater said, (and ironically) "Oh hell no! He did *not* just say that!" I can't even imagine this.
June 24, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST
by ChanceMinter
Charles first: You were a dick. Plain and simple. That dude came on here to talk, and you acted like an ass. You aren't better then him. In fact, you're a lesser person for how you treated him. Canada is awesome. I love Canada. I've worked in Canada, but Canada has its fair share of fucking problems bud. Rednecks exist there. Rapists, murderers, they exist. Walking in Downtown Van, you're going to see people shooting up on the street. Thats no better than any city. I give you all the free healthcare, but in return look at the taxes you pay. Every country has its pro's and con's. Don't act like yours is any better than ours. Joshua: I agree with you 100% and its for this line: "It's one thing to not like the results of a film but when people start attacking the artists or creators as if THEY COULD FUCKING DO ANY BETTER ..." Apparently everyone over looked that remark. You aren't saying you have to be a filmmaker to critique the result of the film, but you should at least be someone who has accomplished something to critique a person behind it. Everyone fucks up. Everyone has different tastes. But to bash the person themself, well... that just shows how trashy a person you are. I agree 110% with everything you said. So bravo. You were on point.
June 24, 2009, 11:40 p.m. CST
by ThusSpakeSpymunk
This movie isn't racist. You know why it's not racist? The supposedly "racist" characters ... are robots! THEY ARE BRIGHT CANDY-APPLE RED AND SOUR-APPLE GREEN! They are not "black" people. They are a PAIR OF ROBOTS! Who says they're black? You? Because the swear and have gold teeth and talk funny? Why does that make YOU think of black people? Me, I thought of two robots. Where are you getting the idea they're black? Is it from your own ... racism?
June 24, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST
by ThusSpakeSpymunk
Harry, you still have my respect, and the above comment's not meant for you - you say what you feel.
June 24, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST
by ilovemrdoe
When they see Sam's face on a computer screen, and quickly pick up a phone and literally all they say is "Allahu Akbar"
June 24, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
are usually the biggest assholes you'll ever meet.
June 24, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
I can sense the intensity of your retardation pulsing through my monitor. Do something about that. Try multi-vitamins and ginseng candy.
June 24, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST
by AyatollahSexyBack
Not only will you teach your daughter that racism is not to be rewarded, but also that Megan Fox is not to be emulated. Win-win.
June 24, 2009, 11:57 p.m. CST
by ziggee38
Not sure i understand all the negativity for this film. I'm not going to revert to the "It's a pocorn movie" defense. Quite frankly, that is a weak defense. I understand people's desire to to want to be entertained by the films they go see....I myself have seen this twice and will see it again this weekend, I found it rather enjoyable. I can understand why some may not like this film, but the utter disdain baffles me. It's as if the filmmakers personally ripped your heart out and eat it with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Sure, I have disliked some films, but you know what, I just don't go see them. I certainly don't think it's viable to slander someone just cause they like certain films that you may not like. Alot of people are holding James Cameron up on some pedestal. I'm sure AVATAR will be a home run, it better be considering he has not made a non doc in over 10 years, but honestly, he has made one great film (Terminator) and the rest are meh. Go back and watch T2, there is as much goofy, awkward humor in that film as there is in ROTF...Bay just jazzed it up a bit. As for the racism...I never once thought the twins were making fun of anyone but white trash guys. sometimes it's as if people are just searching for things to call racist. p.s. if not for Heath Ledger, DARK KNIGHT would be....meh
June 25, 2009, midnight CST
by Hairy Nutsack
I'm not sure this issue deserves this much attention, but at the very least these bots are racial stereotypes put into the film for laughs. Call it racism or bigotry or whatever, but it's certainly a discussion worth having.<p> I think there's more than a little hypocrisy here though. There's been plenty of racism used for comedic effect in a myriad of films these same reviewers, here and elsewhere, have never said word one about because they like the movies the scenes were in.<p> Two biggies that come to mind immediately are Blazing Saddles and Animal House. Hell, there isn't a single Mel Brooks movie that doesn't have wanton displays of racism of one kind or another, especially directed at his own race.<p> So yeah, there's an overreaction going on here, but at the same time Bay and pals should have fucking known better. (But really people, isn't this just one of a billion things wrong with this movie anyway, rather a minor problem compared to most everything else)
June 25, 2009, midnight CST
by Magnum Opus
He would smite everyone that likes this movie, thus drastically improving humanity by removing the bottom level of the gene pool. He should probably give actual retards a pass, and children under 12, but everyone else dumb enough to actually be entertained by this should go.
June 25, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST
by LeeMajors
But I have no idea what happened. I mean, apart from what I can guess.
June 25, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
You are on the mark re Charles, but have to be careful when we go down Joshua's track re accomplish something. That is very subjective. <p> Agree Bob didnt have to come here, he chose to, and surely its important that he hears from the fans, he may dismiss them and focus on bottom line, like Bay does, but that is up to him. <p> Whilst some of the comments were overly critical, most of them were very fair and are reflective of what a lot of people are commenting about whether they be professional reviewers or a Transformers fan.
June 25, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST
by Relugus
Primus would beat the shit out of God.
June 25, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
Because I don't have *any* respect for Harry, like I once did when I was 15.
June 25, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST
by mitortilla
Let's talk about abortion now.
June 25, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Have you seen Aliens (different movie to the first one, but its really well done action, with some great characters) or T2 ? <p> The Abyss is underrated IMHO <p> Titanic (am not a fan), but it has a place in a lot of people's heart, and True Lies was fun.
June 25, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
When some reviewer here hypes up something enough people come to this site and blab about shit.
June 25, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
Yikes...I did forget about The Ayss...you are right, very underrated...especially the extended cut. And yes, True Lies was ok. as for Aliens, it was enjoyable for sure, but I wasn't a fan of having more action and less suspense then the first. My point is that while Camron did have some good hits, he is in no way the end all be all of filmmaking
June 25, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST
by D.Vader
Does that include everyone that enjoyed this film, but also loves Seven Samurai and 2001? <p> Idiot. Don't boil this down to such an immature and moronic statement along the lines of "only idiots are entertained by this". Give me a fucking break.
June 25, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST
by mitortilla
therefore he is a racist.
June 25, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
He/She hasn't done a very good job. Might say that there is a God for every planet, we got the George Bush one, C grade student. "....hmmmm oops, dropped my beer, another Tsunami". "Yeah need to do my homework and do something about Africa, hmmm or watch some suns exploding with my buds, yeah Africa can wait another 100,000 years or so".
June 25, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
With the constantly rotating banner ads that AICN has, it's pretty damn unfair to criticize them for lambasting a movie whose ads they have on their site when they have no control over what banner pics the ad agency sends to this sight through their server. Soon the banner pics will be Harry Potter, a movie most on this site will love, and still AICN will have no control over what banner pics the server sends them. That's how the ad banners work boys, AICN doesn't control them, and naturally they'd be fools to say no to the money, would you?
June 25, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST
by shartron
Terminator was the only great film Cameron made??? Aliens? T2? Aliens is one of the best sci-fi action films ever made. True Lies and The Abyss weren't too shabby either. All of these films share 2 common things: Good writing and great effects. Bay got one of those right. Makes for a very shallow film.
June 25, 2009, 12:20 a.m. CST
by shartron
Guess I should post faster!
June 25, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathews1978
Maker of shallow, superficial trash posing as a summer flick for kids that is in fact a 200 million recruitment promo for the military while also displaying Bay's imperialistic Neocon politics and cross burning racism. Was the paycheck really worth being associated with that Boborci?
June 25, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
I agree, ROTF was a shallow film, but I found it fun. T2 was nothing more then a "boy and his 'bot" again, I'm not saying most of his films were bad, I just wouldn't call them great.
June 25, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
He did that movie with a BROKEN HAND!!! Damn professional.
June 25, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST
by shartron
Just Harry Potter? Am I missing any other tentpole films?
June 25, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Actually one of the things I love about True Lies is the seeming lack of sfx. I know they're there, but they are few and far between.<p> The harrier scene at the end is amazing, and most of that was a practical shot done by hanging the jet off of a crane on the building. Nowadays that whole scene would be boring ass CGI, CGI has its uses, but I love a director that has the balls to go practical when he can.
June 25, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST
by jsherry
I'm up in the air on this one. I've heard my 5 year old approximate Scatman Crothers voice when he quotes Jazz from the G1 cartoon. He imitates the voice he hears, which has a distinct rhythm to it. I can't judge Crothers for being racist, since, well, thats his voice. So is my son racist in his imitation? All he is doing is mirroring. By the same token, if Mudflap and Skids have "racist" voices, then shouldn't we all be up in arms every time we see Chris Tucker in a movie?
June 25, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
of the summer. I'm sure the Potter asshats will eat that shit up one more time.
June 25, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST
by web
Is this true? Did Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen make nearly $41 million worldwide on it's opening day 06/24/09?
June 25, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST
by web
Is this true? Did Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen make nearly $41 million worldwide on it's opening day 06/24/09?
June 25, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST
by _Lizarkeo
And I liked it. Not a follower of Bay. I´d never read the comic or watched the TV show. Or had the toys. But Turturro was hysterical. His sidekick, his face inside the car targeted by missiles...pure golden comedy! Megan was the dream gal every scene on the screen. The Blackbird is my all-time fave airplane (the military stuff was awesome, BTW). The sinking of the aircraft carrier scene was just like an insane Ultimates art from Bryan Hitch becoming true. Older Shia looks more and more like the dude from the Y the Last Man. I actually liked the retarded pot jokes, because of the acting and editing. The website with the dumb cute cats. Didn´t expected so many goodies after reading the one star Ebert´s review. The plot and the jokes, again, were "for the kids, you know". Even the military dudes (from the general to the grunts), they acted just like kids playing good guys vs bad guys, "woo-hoo, let´s go save our brothers and kick some evil dudes´ assess RIGHT NOW!". Kids will love it. <p>Now, waiting for the more adult, more politically incorrect and gorier Team America version of the Transformers, hehehe. Cheers!
June 25, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST
by web
...dang new-fangled Google Chrome browser.
June 25, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
Yes, Harry Potter does look epic and I think will be one of the best of the series. As for the rest of the summer, let's not look past some of the smaller films like "District 9" and "Humpday"...and then there is "Funny People" comming out as well
June 25, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST
by jsherry
June 25, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST
by TheDark0Knight
I really dug the first one & the only Bay film I cant watch anymore is Pearl Harbor...I think this flick is easily one of the summers best movies. Maybe its cause I went in with some incredibly low expectations, I really loved everything about it.
June 25, 2009, 12:35 a.m. CST
by shartron
Exactly. Those truly are "special" effects. Lizarkeo, what age group of kids was this intended for? The jokes were for kids? A leg fucking robot and the words bitch, ass and pussy? Perfect for the kids!
June 25, 2009, 12:35 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
oh...and how could i forget "Inglorious Bastards"
June 25, 2009, 12:36 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
Eat that UP!!
June 25, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST
by GunterMonkey
It's mind boggling...where were all of you?
June 25, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Deceased directors I would say Kurosawa and Kubrick, living hmm. <p> The ED on this Spielberg would be up there, but not on recent movies. Possibly Scorsese, Coen Brothers, probably Yimou Zhang.
June 25, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST
by GunterMonkey
With the trash you watch on a consistent basis, I'm surprised this was even a blip on your radar...
June 25, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
Megatron will crush Batman.
June 25, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
nothing like seeing the Pretender's panties. Am sure there will be a few more Birds and the bees talks after this one. <p> The target audience surely is 12-15 year old males ?
June 25, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
I'm a HUGE fan of Tim Burton...as stylish directors go, he is among the best. Raimi, as well as Jackson are up there as well, especially their earlier work. The cohen Brothers are ok at directing but AWSOME at writing...I eat up all thier films with a smile on my face. I will always have a soft spot for Spielberg, he was such a presence in my youth. As for dead...I agree with ytour choices and i'll go one more....Hitchcock
June 25, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST
by PantherMatt
Fair play to ya! I missed Transformers by a few years, so I never paid much attention. If you say there's some good stuff in there ( I mean the Transformers mythos), I believe you. I certainly have no grounds to argue, that's for sure. For what it's worth, I'm sorry the franchise turned out to be (by most accounts) crap...
June 25, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
I'm not surprised this film will break all sorts of records...let's face it, some movies are critic proof. As i said, i did enjoy this movie, as did both my daughters (who i have shown the original cartoon to). Would i have liked a deeper movie, one that appeases the geek in me? Of course, but the studios, while trying to do things that the fanboys (and girls) will like, they ultimately want to make money...say what you will about Bay, but he does know how to orchestrate lavish action sequences that go boarderline overload...but in this disposable society, that is just what the public wants
June 25, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST
by ebonic_plague
So, casting a white kid for Aang in the Last Airbender is horrendously racist and needs to be protested by all fair-minded moviegoers... but illiterate, shit-talking stepin-fetchit robots are IN NO WAY racist, and everyone should just get over it and enjoy the movie... now that's pretty fucking funny.
June 25, 2009, 1 a.m. CST
by theycallmemrtibbs
Than sinners in the church!" <p> If you guys claim this movie is a piece of shit. <p> Why did you pay to go see it? <p> I mean, This isn't the first time Aintitcool ragged on this movie. You guys knew 3 months in advance what this movie was going to be like. <p> Whenever Harry and Co. put up a new Robot or Production still, there were plenty of "The Fallen looks like he has a penis" or Fuck Micheal Bay!!!! remarks to go around. <p> I can count on one hand how many people that were positive about this movie, <p> So why the fuck did the rest of you pay for a ticket? <p> Did you intentionally go into this movie, knowing you were going to hate it, So you can give Micheal Bay your money, for something you hate, so you can hate it some more? <p> "THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE!" <p> Tell the truth, you know you liked this movie.... <p> I can respect a persons honest opinion about something if it's in fact honest. <p> However, there are a lot of guys (and gals) are on here chiming back and forth on str8 bullshit. I'm quite sure no one is that stupid to intentionally walk into a movie and freely give Micheal Bay they're money. <p> That's like given the Executioner the Hatchet.
June 25, 2009, 1 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
From memory they existed in the cartoons/comics ? <p> Still think that the character was a bad inclusion, a lot of the reviewers and people I know have all commented, why aren't they all disguised as people, wouldnt that be easier ?
June 25, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
I would assume they would be had all the decepticons been human size....my guess is this is one of the models that was hatched AFTER the first film....but why argue scamantics...Isebelle lucas was pretty hot
June 25, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST
by cylon_conspiracy
<p>I don't understand why the negative reviews are so full of vigor. But it seems like everyone's buttons were pushed on this one. So while it may be horrible, I'm tempted to see it now to see why it is so divisive. </p> <p> I thought the first one was a solid B--just couldn't make sense of the fight scenes. I can't believe Bay is making deliberately racist comments in summer movie designed to sell toys. This film must be one huge mind-fuck.
June 25, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST
by p0llk4t
...and contain animal sex, drug use, robot balls and fowl language? I guess I missed the memo on that one...
June 25, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST
by ganymede3010
TF2 was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. No hypocrite here. It's time that the entire team is fired! That's not going to happen anytime soon. Especially when this movie is going to gross a billion dollars.
June 25, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST
by Banzai Rootskibango
...and this movie fucking rocked. <P> Yeah, it got way too stupid every now and again as far as the humor goes. <P> Yeah, it could definately be a good 25 minutes shorter. <P> Yeah, the two robots were everything that everyone has said about them...but... <P> ...So what? Who gives a shit? It was a fuckin' fun-ass movie to watch. Everyone at the midnight screening where I saw it loved it. The theater was packed and everyone was having a blast. <P> You guys are haters.
June 25, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
If we are going to point out racist charecters in movies...why has no one pointed out that in the movie "up" delroy Lindo voices a dog that is a pit bull....
June 25, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST
by drturing
he came up to me and he said that in college he read "The Invisible Man". And he thought slavery was bad. And man he cracked me up so much, he told about this joke Chris Rock makes about how there are black people, and there are... "N word people"! It was so funny.
June 25, 2009, 1:49 a.m. CST
by Qatlantis
I've seen this movie twice now, and I still must be missing something... Which race are Skids and Mudflap insulting? I noticed that they have an urban type of street slang when they talk, but that doesn't strike me as offensive. It's the same as when Mater would talk with a southern 'twang in "Cars", or when our former president use to speak with his Texan accent. Were they all racist, too, just because they speak similar to how other people speak? There were no derogatory remarks in the movie against the twins about how they were speaking; no one in the movie tried to put them down or make them feel inferior because they couldn't read the ancient Cybertronian language (they did not state that they could not read at all; in fact, all they did was stated that the printed glyphs were ancient and unfamiliar to them). I thought racism involved the blatant hatred, disrespect, or intolerance of someone's ethnic background, and I just don't see that in this movie. I think we as a society have lost sight on what is considered offensive and have jumped straight to believing everything that is different is racist.
June 25, 2009, 1:52 a.m. CST
by BlackPrince
Ooooh look at meee, I'm Josh Vance, I know basic medical terminology like "anhedonia" and Trisomy 21 (btw ur comment implying that someone had Down syndrome was VERY offensive). You're a first class prick. Fuck off and die, asshole (and yes i WOULD fucking say it to your face if I saw you)
June 25, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST
by ziggee38
my point is you can find racism in ANYTHING if you looked....isn't it a waste of time to do that though? Doesn't pointing out something like that in fact make you racist...even subconciously?
June 25, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST
by SK229
It was well written, considered, and thought out. Fucking amazing. I wish all of your reviews were like this. <p>And about the public health care option... this was dead and buried the second someone (or a bunch of people at the same time) realized you could get very, very rich and create huge conglomerates based around something as basic and necessary to humans as FUCKING HEALTHCARE. I realized it during Nightline after the Aetna CEO spoke. It's just fucked, it ain't ever gonna happen. That guy who came after, can't remember his name, basically made it clear that he wants his $2,500+per family for his shareholders. BOTTOM LINE - WE ARE FUCKED. There's not much Obama can do about it. If anything, Obama highlights how little change can come, no matter how much sense the president is making. If Bush showed the true face of one side of the coin, Obama is showing the other. I'm repeatedly flabbergasted at the amount of simple sense the man can make and yet it doesn't penetrate because of partisanship or plain-ole stupidity. Fuck it man...
June 25, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST
by CharlesThomasMathewsMom
pretty accurate post- http://tinyurl.com/noqyo4
June 25, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST
by dudemandude
I wasn't fond of the toilet humor at all in this film. The dog sex, the fart jokes, Sams "love you b" shtick with Bumblebee that went on for 5 min too long, leg humping transformers, the blatant racism, misogynistic themes, unnecessary crude language.. none of it worked. Just because it's Transformers doesn't mean we should get a mess of a film like this, does it? There's no effort here except to make a special effects showcase. We should care about the Transformers and their eternal war, those who've survived so long and those who fall in battle. We should care about Sam and Mikaela, I want to tense up in my seat when Mikaela is in mortal danger from Megatron or Starscream and Sam is helpless to save her, but instead it's flat. No one cares. I'm no film guru but I love movies. I don't know shit about them, but I can tell if what I'm watching is "good" or not and I think most of us can, but then I see a film like this and I start to wonder.. If I was a producer and putting up my hard earned money for a film and this was what I bought, I'd be upset. Sure I will earn my money back and make some too, but forever my name would be attached to this movie. A few parts stood out though, the forest fight, Megan Fox, John Tutorro (?) he was much better this time around minus the nudity. Optimus is always awesome and really fights like a Prime in this film. Bumblebee was great to watch and has gotten much tougher in the last 2 years (still no speaking tho? yes I know the kids like the radio an noises he makes). Racists robots.. what was their point? Just a head shaker moment for me. Just overall this movie felt thrown together. I've been rewatching some of the G1 cartoons, which weren't full of writing genius either, but they're still better done than this film. It's just a mess and I just wish it wasn't.
June 25, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST
by Ployd
I love how Harry has to bash Steven for putting his name and stamp on this movie. I seem to recall this travesty of a movie that came out called "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" which he DIRECTED. I seem to recall alot of bashing on that film as well. The point is, everyone has their opinion, even someone as biased as Harry. Honestly at this point you just know too many people and are way too opinionated about how a project will turn out simply based on who's in charge of it. It's like going to an Applebee's and getting a burnt steak...you'll hate it and maybe never go to THAT Applebee's again, but you'll go to another one someday. You may love or hate Michael Bay, but who do you think could have really done it any better?
June 25, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
They speak just like Bumblebee does. With the clipped phrases and goofy music.
June 25, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 25, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
Bill Cobbs is a fucking pimp.
June 25, 2009, 2:16 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
Seeing Iron Hide and shit introduced in the first scene, and then they suddenly dissapear until the end of the movie. WTF was that shit. They needed to be in the movie more.
June 25, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST
by DocPazuzu
Absolutely horrid. I haven't felt this bored, numbed or mentally assaulted since I saw Van Helsing, only this was much, much worse. <p> It's a curious thing to experience with your eyes that which by all rights should be awe-inspiring and mind-boggling, yet is no more exciting than watching a snail crawl across a patio. <p> The movie looked amazing. The effects were all top-notch and you could definitely see all the money on the screen, but it was utterly uninvolving and tedious. Afterwards it was almost like a dream -- did I actually see all that stuff? Why don't I feel excited or charged after witnessing all that cool carnage? Is there something wrong with me? <p> No. No, there isn't. <p> Apart from the sinking of the aircraft carrier, Optimus' growling "I'll take on ALL OF YOU!" and the clanging robot balls, I have a hard time remembering ANYTHING distinctive about this movie. <p> It was a ghastly viewing experience in every conceivable way.
June 25, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST
by dudemandude
ok dude, I'm black and those two robots were clearly a satirical attempt on "urban youths" or "gangster culture" or "rap culture" whatever name you label it with. I live in West Chicago and I'm telling you those two robots were clearly trying to appeal to that crowd. Or even worse mock it for the white suburban kids. Does it offend me? Yeah to an extent it does, it's like Robot blackface. But does Mr. Bay have the right to have them in his movie? Yeah of course he does and it's up to you whether or not you go see it right? Personally, I have thick skin, I didn't like it but that in and of itself didn't ruin the film, and I just tried to ignore it. What does worry me is the underlying acceptance of this bigotry. Same thing that was going on a few years before Jews were being ushered into slave camps and ovens. Dehumanizing people seems to be the way around here though, people telling each other to die and such.. it's abhorrent and has me worried about the state of the world. If I wasn't an atheist I would pray that none of you psycho's live next door to me. lol
June 25, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST
by ironic_name
June 25, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
Both the PC people who complain about it AND the people who made the film are idiots. <p> I mean, the way the people involved in the film are defending the characters, is along the lines of "They aren't black. They're robots. They picked it up from the internet & they're wannabe Gangster posers." <p> Um, ok. Except, they ARE meant to be copying black people. You can invent any backstory for fictional characters to prove a point, it's just idiotic. "Oh, they're not mimicking black people. They're talking like that 'cause Optimus Prime sponsored them to talk funny for a week, If they can do it, the local school will get a new computer room." Bay et al need to grow up. <p> The proof is in what people can see & hear.On the other hand, that's why it ISN'T racist though.<p> The fact is, people are watching it & saying "Oh my God, that's racist", but why are they noticing it? Because some black people DO act like that. Nobody ever once says in the movie that they act black.People are assuming it, based on the fact that the characters resemble a certain number of black people. Maybe a minority, I don't know. But I've seem them around.<p> It's no different to Jetfire having an English accent. I don't talk like him, I don't behave like him, he doesn't have my accent per se, but there are some English people who speak like him. <p> Why is it wrong to have Mudflap & Skids speak in a way that a few black people DO speak, yet it's fine for Jetfire to have a pretty stereotypical accent?
June 25, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
if you have never been one? I can't. It's such a non issue.
June 25, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
by Finding Forrestal
Cinematic gluttony to the nth degree. A master class in excess. The worst kind of "everything but the kitchen sink" type filmmaking that is loud, obnoxious and worst of all, boring. The film was so manic it made "Transformers" look like "My Dinner With Andre." And this is coming from a (former) Bay aficionado. What a waste...
June 25, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
They picked out Harry and Devin, but have read a lot of comments saying the same thing. Don loses any real credibility with " Michael Bay made a terrific film", the reviews haven't been kind we aren't talking about a 40-60% range at Rotten Tomatoes, where it is about a matter of taste. <p> Not sure why Don should care so much, don't think Harry has much box office pool these days compared to the old days, as was demonstrated in that scene in Entourage.
June 25, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
by Zandunga
...people like Doc Pazuzu. Now I think he makes lucid points and agree with him wholeheartedly. But...why put your money behind this film?? You're voting with your wallets here, folks. You're sending a powerful signal of what you would like to see in the future, and if the trend is to be reversed, you need to not see it in the theaters. Wait for a cheapo rental if you must, or if you're so inclined, stream it online...whatever. But there are so many of you who know you're going to hate it, who don't fall into the category of the lowest common denominator prats who love this bullshit, and leave the theater indignant...and should have really known better. <p> I'll admit that part of me is curious to see this train wreck, just to check out what Bay did, but I prefer to stand fast and not subsidize the wholesale spread of idiocy and gauche fucking filmmaking.
June 25, 2009, 2:30 a.m. CST
by Continentalop
Blazing Saddles isn't a racist movie, it is a comedy about racism. Who do the jokes poke fun at? Black people? No, white people. The redneck cowboys and the simple-minded towns folk. Black people, especially Sheriff Bart, are portrayed as smart, cunning, brave and honest. The majority of white people, especially the racist characters, are portrayed as idiots and fools. The scene when they try to get the black railroad workers to sing a Negro spiritual is the epitome of this: Instead of singing a cliched song, the black workers break out into a hip Frank Sinatra song and then trick the dumb white formen in singing "Camp Town Lady." <p> As for Mel Brooks making fun of his own race, well he is allowed to. As George Carlin once said, a black guy can call another black guy a "nigger." Why? Because they are both "niggers." How can you be offended if it applies to him as well. <p> There is a big difference between making fun of racism, poking fun at your own group and making fun or mocking another group with stereotypes. <p> And if you want to point out the double standard of black people mocking white people, I am all for it. Nothing is lamer than a black comedian doing the "white people do this and black people do this-" acts.
June 25, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
So fuck off and go watch your copy of Evil Dead for the 400th time. Hey, did you know that movie BOMBED?
June 25, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST
by DocPazuzu
Despite what I posted in that other talkback about adding money to Bay's bank account, I actually got a free ticket to the movie. I just posted that to get a rise out of AsimovLives. <p> Bay didn't get a dime out of me.
June 25, 2009, 2:32 a.m. CST
by dudemandude
because most of the people, like myself, who's a 36 yr old black musician that lives in West Chicago, that are bringing this up are American. You see, after we kicked your asses back across the pond, we still had this problem with slavery over here. Some black folks take it a bit unkindly to be mocked on television or cinema, because of our history here. Some white folks feel guilty about history and overreact to try and make up for it. Other white folks are just racist, whether they admit it or not. In the black community we have racists as well, but generally speaking we don't make 200,000,000$ movies to showcase it.
June 25, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST
by BendersShinyAss
What planet are you on, seriously? <p>I just saw it and it was fucking insane awesome. im not joking, i fucking loved it. here are some points id like to call each and every complaint on<p>The opening; plot setting, establishing a whole new story. everything that happened in the first 15 minutes was just non stop action excitement and it explained the world we are in, whats happened, who are allied to the transformers, who is suspicious of them. it was fucking GREAT!!<p>the whole witwicky family, dogs humping, transformer appliances... bumble bee jumping to guardian protection, the mother having her change of life episodes - michael Bay is a fucking comedian! <p> the whole campus story arch, the situation with sam and michaela... this film was non stop, it didn't drag and it didn't let up! <p>I fucking loved it!! <p>the twins were not anywhere near as annoying as was let on - as for racist over tones, bullshit, it was a fucking riot! a good time!! and it wasn't the least bit offensive, it was fucking funny!<p> cybertron, megatron, starscream, soundwave, the fallen, the pantha, the little ballbearings, shit, even the human transformer - this was THE TRANSFORMERS!!!!!!<p>the whole egypt battle, the reintroduction of sector 7, this film FUCKING ROCKS I feel sorry for you sad bastards<p>devestators balls... come on, it was one quick shot- a pov and they were just dangling wrecking balls... and they weren't exactly balls, but sector 7 dude looks up and says he's under his balls... i fucking laughed!!! and so did the audiance. <p>this film was AWESOME!!!!!!!<p>Michael Bay - I love you man!! i fucking love you. you made a killer kick arse film and I'm going to see it again this weekend. hahahahahahahahaha<p>yes whoooooooo :)
June 25, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST
by Finding Forrestal
You're absolutely right. I won't make the same mistake again...
June 25, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST
by lockesbrokenleg
He probably did because that theater had to rent out seats for advance screening so he is probably counting your money right now
June 25, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST
by Zandunga
...it's that it's crass, lazy stereotyping, and above all, stupid.<p> There no need for this cheap pandering, even in a popcorn film like Transformers.
June 25, 2009, 2:35 a.m. CST
by dudemandude
I don't even know what the heck that is, but way to make your point brotha! curse words are so cool man. Nothing like internet tuffguy's to make ya chuckle.