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There is a simple way to find out which meaning is meant in a given context: if the power of prayer is able to change what happens in "hell", then the first meaning is meant. (Whether OO would agree with this, I don't know.)
XCVIII. ---- OF MAR SEVERUS FROM THE 5th LETTER OF THE 4th BOOK OF THOSE AFTER EXILE, WHICH WAS ADDRESSED TO CAESARIA THE HYPATISSA, WHICH BEGINS, «When I read the letter of your magnificence's love of God, not once nor twice».[519-38.] But to the question which your excellency's magnificence has asked me by letter I return an easy answer, that for my part I have never accepted or expressed agreement with those who speak of an apokatastasis, and an end to the judgment involved in the torments that are threatened us in the future world, and the man who says that he has a letter of mine which proclaims this opinion manifestly lies. Therefore I praised your God-loving magnificence for asking for such a letter to be shown to you; a letter which the man who concocted it necessarily set himself falsely to show to be my composition. Those who hold such an opinion, wishing to accomplish their desires, as if forsooth on the basis of plausible suppositions, make use of arguments that are gratifying to the hearers, saying that it is unbecomingto or unworthy |371 of God, and far removed from his mercifulness, that the man who has sinned for 50 or 100 years in this world should endure torments for unending ages, forgetting this, that God's laws and those which, prevail among men think fit to requite sins according to the intention of the sinner, and one may hear even wise men outside saying of certain persons who have done foul deeds and acts that are not permitted, «This man deserves to die not once but many times»975. But, when a man hears as we do that God who became incarnate and was humanized without variation for our salvation, and who for this reason came down from heaven and conversed with us plainly threatens 976 fire that is not quenched and an undying worm 977, and 978 makes light of it, how does he not deserve, if it is possible to say so, to be condemned |372 twice over to 979 endless torment? If a man live 100 years or more in this present world and spend such a period in vanity, it is certain that this man, if he were allowed to live this same temporal life 980 without end 981, would not cease from his eternal 980 greed and wantonness 982. How therefore will this man in accordance with his disposition not justly 980 be tormented without end? Even the very men who introduce an apokatastasis 983 say of sinners that they will be tormented for many 984 and long periods so to speak 985, and then afterwards will be purified and admitted to clemency and attain to the promised blessedness. But they 986 forget that their human reasonings |373 themselves show God to be unrighteous in his judgments 987. If a man lives 988 in sin 50 or 80 years, but 989 endures torments many long generations, it is again apparent on their principle that this is not worthy of God's mercifulness 990, to extend the period of torment beyond the time of the life in sins, If God agreed with the reasonings of those who think thus 991, the man who sins for 50 years should endure torment for 50 years, and it 992 should not be thus long extended over many generations, as they say 993. For our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ also, in the holy words of his preaching, when |374 separating the righteous from the sinners, said, «These shall go to eternal torment, and the righteous to eternal life» 994, and with regard to both the classes 995, that of the former and that of the latter, he spoke in exactly the same fashion of an equality without distinction, applying the word ' eternal' to both without distinction. Basil the great among teachers of the truth shows this clearly in the teaching composed by him in the form of question and answer addressed to the brethren of the convents; and it is the 219th question, which is expressed as follows:«The brethren say 996. 'If 997 one shall be beaten with many stripes and another with few, how |375 say some that there is no end to the sentence of those who are tormented?'Basil 998 says.Points which are matters of dispute and seen to be obscurely expressed m various places of the Holy Scriptures are elucidated by clear statements in other places. Since therefore our Lord says at one time, 'These shall go into eternal torment 999', and at another dismisses some to 'the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels', and at another mentions 'the gehenna of fire', uttering further the words,1000 'Where their worm dieth not, and their fire is not quenched', and again said before through the prophet about certain |376 men, 1001 'Their worm shall not die, and their fire shall not be quenched'; while these and similar expressions, are often 1002 used in the divine Scriptures, this also was brought about by the machination of the devil, in order that men, forgetting these and similar decrees of our Lord, might presume to sin without restraint, persuading themselves that there is an end to judgment. For, if it is possible for there to be 1003 an end to eternal judgment, there will assuredly also be an end to eternal life. But, if we do not consent to think this with regard to 1004 life, what plausibility is there in our assigning 1005 an end to eternal judgment? For the addition of the word 'eternal' is made equally in both cases. 'These shall go into eternal |377 judgment, and the righteous into eternal life'. These things therefore being thus admitted, we must know that the words 'He shall be beaten with many stripes' and 'shall be beaten with few' are not an end, but signify a difference of torment. For, if God is an upright judge, not only to the good but also to the evil 1006, and requites each according to his deeds, it is possible for one to be in the fire that is not quenched 1007, burning either less or more than the other, and another in the worm that dies not, both one that hurts little and one that hurts much 1008, each as he deserves, and another in gehenna that has a variety of torments, and another in outer darkness, and that there |378 is a place where a man is found amidst weeping only, and there is a place where he is amidst gnashing of teeth also from the severity of the pains 1009. But the outer darkness signifies that there is in truth an inner darkness also.1010 And the words used in the Proverbs 1011 'at the bottom of Sheol 1012' signify that there are persons in Sheol and not at the bottom of it, because their torment is smaller 1013. And this is depicted now also in bodily afflictions. For there is aman who is in a fever together with other pains, and another |379 who is in a fever only, and the latter is not like the former, and another has no fever, but is troubled by pain in some limb 1014, and one again either less or more than another. But this expression 'much' or 'little' is employed by our Lord in accordance with customary usage, as are also many other similar phrases. For we know that this form of speech is frequently adopted even with regard to those who are suffering from one disease 1015. For example, in the case of a man who has a fever only, or has pain in the eye only 1016 we 1017 say in astonishment ' How much he has suffered! ' or ' What anguish he has endured!' Accordingly the expression 'shall be beaten with many' |380 and 'with few', I say again, stands not in the extent of the time and the shortness1018, but in the difference of the torment» 1019. These things this great ruler and shepherd of rational souls Basil taught and stated with great completeness.1020 And Gregory, who became bishop of Nazianzus, himself in the homily of defence thinks that the future torment is endless, teaching thus: «But for us, the salvation of whose blessed and immortal soul is in danger, which will be undyingly tormented or glorified1021 by reason of wickedness or of virtue, how great do you think should the contest be1022?»1023 And John in the 66th homily1024 of the commentary on the Gospel of Matthew |381 states things consonant with these as follows: «For all these reasons accordingly let us first pay the taxes; for it is indeed very easy, and the reward is greater, and there is great abundance of profit, and worse is the torture if we do not understand, and a torture that has no end»4. And the same again in the 79th exposition when speaking of the Passion referred to the kingdom, and to the endless torment. And in the 82nd about the man who approaches the communion of the holy mysteries in a careless mood and without caution he gives teaching in the following words: «He who approaches after he has sinned is worse than a demoniac; for the: latter because they have a demon do not receive punishment, but the |382 former, because they approach unworthily, are delivered to undying torment 1025» 1026. And at the end of the commentary on the epistle to the Ephesians he 1027 expressed himself thus: «For a man to be burnt 1028 and not consumed, and to be perpetually gnawed by a 1029 worm is indestructible 1030 destruction, as happened to the blessed Job, who was in process of destruction and did not perish for a considerable time, but was constantly suffering and wasting away, while he scraped off putrid matter from his body 1031 for a long time. Something similar will happen to the soul at that time, when the 1032 worms surround and gnaw it, not for two years 1033 nor for ten nor for a hundred nor |383 for myriads 1034, but for years without end; for 'their worm', he says, 'shall not die'» 1035. The wise Cyril 1036 also in the 1st book of the commentary on the Gospel of John said: "We ought not to be ungrateful to God but on the contrary 1037 to thank him because by means of the Resurrection from the dead he has appointed for us torment that does not pass away 1038»1039.[/size]
Quote from: ozgeorge on July 11, 2011, 01:00:35 AMQuote from: Severian on July 11, 2011, 12:53:03 AMFurthermore, wouldn't Orthodox Christians achieve a higher level of theosis/unity with God than the heathens?How can we know these things when even the greatest Saints never dared to speculate on them?I suppose you're right. No one knows for sure. But don't you think that an Orthodox monk who lived a holy and righteous life is going to have a far better chance at theosis then, say, a pagan? We can't put ourselves in the place of God, but, doesn't Orthodoxy teach that the spiritual state of those outside of her are unknown and that salvation comes through partaking of the uncreated graces of God, and that those graces are most intimately experienced by participating in the sacramental life of the Church? St Seraphim of Sarov said "God will listen to a Christian monk just as much as a laymen provided both are Orthodox" (a bit of a paraphrase from memory). Once again I am not trying to object to what you are saying. I am genuinely trying to learn and create further discussion as I have clearly demonstrated my ignorance on this subject in the past.
Quote from: Severian on July 11, 2011, 12:53:03 AMFurthermore, wouldn't Orthodox Christians achieve a higher level of theosis/unity with God than the heathens?How can we know these things when even the greatest Saints never dared to speculate on them?
Furthermore, wouldn't Orthodox Christians achieve a higher level of theosis/unity with God than the heathens?
It is my opinion that as soon as we begin to speculate on the salvation or theosis of others, we slip further backwards in our own journey to theosis. I hold that this thought should always be in my mind: that everyone except for me will be saved.
That may or not be Metropolitan Bishoys opinion. It is not the opinion of the Church.Quite often Metropolitan Bishoys statements find themselves taken out of context, and misused by others.
Quote from: peterfarrington on July 11, 2011, 01:04:13 PMThat may or not be Metropolitan Bishoys opinion. It is not the opinion of the Church.Quite often Metropolitan Bishoys statements find themselves taken out of context, and misused by others. Dear Father,Here is a small article on Metropolitan Bishoy and his controversial statement that Catholics and Protestants cannot be saved. If you know Arabic, it provides an audio clip of his words on the topic. Arabic speakers may verify for themselves. http://orthodoxwiki.org/Bishoy_(Nicola)_of_Damietta
.وقال بيشوي: إن الكاثوليك والبروتستانت لن يدخلوا ملكوت السماء، ونفي أن يكون بذلك قد أخذ حق الله في الحكم وتقرير المصير، لأنه لم يحدد اسم شخص بالتحديد، وذلك لأمور لا يعلمها إلا الله.
Therefore as Metropolitan Bishoy properly says, Protestantism does not have the power to save,
...Father Ambrose to keep posting this clip about Metropolitan Bishoy, as he appears to have done about 10 times in the past few days.
But for some reason
Quote from: Irish Hermit on July 11, 2011, 06:52:46 AMBut for some reasonThis sort of perversion of traditional theology has occurred all over the map among the OO and in a significantly more extensive way than it has been within your own church.
Someone pointed out that the only way around the statement of Metropolitan Bishoy (and Pope Shenouda about Protestants and non-Christians) is something tantamount to Universal Salvation - that at the moment of death every soul, Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, is enlightened with the knowledge of the truth and has the opportunity to embrace it. Since, in such a state of spiritual clarity, it is highly unlikely that a soul would reject the reality of truth, this amounts to virtual Universal Salvation.....An interesting thought! A not unattractive thought!
Quote from: peterfarrington on July 12, 2011, 04:07:55 AM Therefore as Metropolitan Bishoy properly says, Protestantism does not have the power to save,Father Peter has not understood what Metropolotan Bishoy has said. I do not fail to see why he would not like to face it square on. The statement is a little upsetting for those of us raised in a liberal Western religious atmosphere.There are two statements here:1. Protestantism, as a religious sysyem and a religious belief, does not have the power to save2. "Catholics and Protestants cannot enter the kingdom of heaven"This two statements are not at all the same. The second is Metropolitan Bishoy's position.
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"I Would Have Loved To Piss on Your Shoes"
What Mark Schlueb and other fired or resigned journalists wrote to their bosses on the way out.
If you're not filled with contempt for your boss, there's either something wrong with you or you're a working journalist.
Reporters and editors like to think they don't have bosses, believing almost to a one that they answer to a higher authority, namely "Journalism." The guy who signs their checks? A paper-pusher. The people who try to give them orders in the newsroom? Subhuman obstructions to ignore.
Only when a journalist is fired or quits does the complete fury he feels for those quacking mallards who have made his life miserable begin to surface. Instead of verbally venting after getting sacked, the smart journalist takes a road trip and works through his anger by killing chipmunks and other small game. Only greedy, slightly stupid journalists accept severance packages. They almost always come with do-not-disparage clauses, which are known to cause cancer in journalists.
Some journalists settle the score with their "bosses" immediately. But my favorites are those who take weeks, months, or even years to settle the score with the institution or individual that they think tormented them. In honor of every journalist who flipped the boss off on the way out the door, I've collected a few of their best kiss-off notes and gestures from the recent past. If, after reading, you don't turn in your badge and burn every bridge and causeway behind you and fill with sewage every tunnel and viaduct that connects you to your former place of employment, I've failed in my mission.
Here goes!
"It's been a rough few years here, mainly because of the jackasses in Chicago who own us. To them I say, with as much gusto as I can muster in an email, fuck you."
—Dan Neil, upon leaving the Los Angeles Times for the Wall Street Journal, February 2010.
"Jesus spent three days in Hell. … I could only handle one."
—Richard Morgan, who quit Gawker.com after one day, January 2008.
"My ill-starred tenure at New York magazine was, among other things, a crash course in the staggering unselfawareness of Manhattan class privilege. … [T]here was the sashaying mood of preppy smugness that permeated nearly every interaction among the magazine's editorial directorate—as when one majordomo tried to make awkward small talk with me by asking what it was like attending an urban public high school, or when another scion of the power elite would blithely take the credit for other people's work and comically strategize to be seated prominently at the National Magazine Awards luncheon."
"Go ahead and talk amongst yourselves, masters of the universe—and let your therapists-manqué at New York transcribe your every mawkishly aggrieved word. Every phony social revolution needs its Joe the Plumber, after all—and Messrs. Moss, Sherman et al fit the bill nicely. Watch the decibel level, though—it turns out that a lot of people went to public high school, and they're pretty fucking sick of the sound of your voices."
—Chris Lehmann, four years after leaving New York magazine, April 2009.
"It is just sort of a pathology on Mort's part. … He just couldn't stand Fallows making the magazine his own magazine. ... The bottom line is that Mort has been sabotaging his own magazine, and it's been sickening to watch."
—Timothy Noah, while still (temporarily) on the payroll after U.S. News & World Report owner Mortimer Zuckerman sacked the magazine's editor, James Fallows, June 1998.
"The last time I was up in front of this group was 27 years ago, when we won General Excellence for Harper's. I was fired the next day. And as the chairman of the board was escorting me to the guillotine, he said, 'Didn't I hear you won some sort of prize?' "
—Michael Kinsley, upon accepting the Magazine Editors' Hall of Fame Award from the American Society of Magazine Editors, March 2010.
"I knew that newspapers were dying daily, that the future of long-form journalism was at risk. And I knew how lucky I was to still have my job. But as my recent story on Raoul Wallenberg was cut from the three parts we'd agreed upon to two to one, I also knew that it was time for me to leave the paper, particularly once I learned that some in management had expressed the same opinion."
—Josh Prager, upon leaving the Murdoch-ized Wall Street Journal, April 2009.
In the summer of 1998, Si Newhouse offered Michael Kinsley the editorship of The New Yorker. Kinsley said he wanted 48 hours to think about it. During that interval, he had dinner with Newhouse and members of his family, and when he returned to his hotel there was a message for him to call Newhouse.
"[Newhouse] asks me to say that I had withdrawn my name [from the running]. I say I'm not going to lie about it, but I'll decline to discuss it. He mumbles something and I mumble something and we hang up.
"On reflection (about two minutes' reflection), I decided I was not inclined to do him the favor of not discussing it."
—Michael Kinsley, in a widely distributed email, July 1998.
"I know the difference between journalism and a slogan. 'Keeping them honest'is a slogan."
—Aaron Brown, formerly of CNN, knocking the catch-phrase of his successor, Anderson Cooper, March 2011
"How do you expect the dedicated and loyal reporters at the [Akron] Beacon Journal to keep putting out a quality paper when you're eliminating nearly a quarter of the reporting staff? You faceless corporate hacks take a break from your golf game long enough to scream that circulation must stay up, but then you order arbitrary budget cuts that force the elimination of entire sections of the Sunday paper. And when that's not enough, you order layoffs that eliminate the very employees who have helped keep circulation from falling. Seriously, the kid who changes the oil in my car could run Knight Ridder with more foresight than you."
"Don't worry about me; I'll land on my feet. I don't regret coming here, even though I've been laid off now. In fact, my only regret is that you haven't come to visit the Beacon Journal. I would have loved to piss on your shoes."
—Mark Schlueb *, in a letter to Knight Ridder CEO Tony Ridder, April 2001.
"Ever since the Chandler Family plucked Mark Willes from General Foods, placing him at the helm of Times Mirror with a mandate to destroy the institutions in ways that would boost dividends, journalism has suffered at Newsday."
—Laurie Garrett, upon making her leave of absence from Newsday permanent, February 2005.
After New York magazine editor Clay Felker took over the Village Voice in 1974, "star writer Ron Rosenbaum ripped up his (meager) paycheck in the New York editor's face, saying there was 'no amount of money' that could make him work for 'the piece of shit' the Voice was certain to become. Rosenbaum then stormed out, a dramatic gesture, topped only by Felker's puzzled reaction: 'Who was that?' "
—From "The Voice Beyond the Grave," by Mark Jacobson, New Yorkmagazine, Nov. 6, 2005.
"After extensive study of history, I believe 'Latino'—as used in the Los Angeles Times—is the most recent attempt at genocide perpetrated against the native people of the Americas. I also posit this new genocide is far more dangerous than the old fashioned murder and relocation efforts."
—Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez, in her 3,400-word letter of resignation to her editors at the Los Angeles Times, early 2001
"Blogging at Newsweek was sort of like setting up your tent in a bombed out building. First the editor who hired me left. Then the editor above him left. Then the executive above that guy left. Then the editor who didn't really like me but tolerated me left. As a result I was left alone, which was fine. I kept writing; the checks kept coming. It was only a matter of time before the occupying army moved in."
"The people at the Daily Beast seem to be having a desperate sort of faux-fun as they try to madly generate paying hits before Barry Diller's money runs out subsidizing Ms. Brown's big bucks staff."
—Mickey Kaus, shortly after his Newsweek blog was canceled by incoming editor Tina Brown, who was merging Newsweek into the Daily Beast, February 2011.
"If some ditzy American editor went to London, took over the Spectator and turned it into, say, In Your Face: A Magazine of Mucus, there would be a big uproar, but here in America, we expect turnover. Here, a great American magazine falls into the clutches of a Staten Island newspaper mogul who goes out and hires a British editor who seems to know this country mainly from television and movies, and nobody says much about it."
—Garrison Keillor, after Tina Brown replaced Robert Gottlieb as editor of The New Yorker, April 1995.
"Hi there. My name is James Renner and up until this morning, I was a staff writer for Cleveland Scene. I was fired this morning because I wrote an email to the CEO of the media conglomerate that now owns Scene, Matt Haggerty, in which I warned him that spiking stories because they are afraid of being sued is a good way to destroy a newspaper."
"I am attaching the story on Coughlin which Scene spiked."
—James Renner, March 2009
"I must say, though the [New Yorker]office itself is a little creepy. I didn't work there. I live in Colorado. But I'd visit 3-4X a year.
"Everybody whispers. It's not exactly like being in a library; it's more like being in a hospital room where somebody is dying.
"Like someone's dying, and everybody feels a little guilty about it.
"There's a weird tension to the place. If you raise your voice to normal level, heads pop up from cubicles.
"And from around the stacks of review copies that lie everywhere like a graveyard of writers' aspirations."
"I'd get back on the Times Square sidewalk after a visit and feel I needed to flap my arms."
"Turns out, though, magazines have personalities—especially a magazine like The New Yorker, with such a long history.
"Had I been working in the New York office, I might have picked up on this, and adapted to it."
"[T]he real reason [David] Remnick fired me was that he took a personal dislike to me after our conversations.
"I was pretty bitter for a while."
"Maybe The New Yorker can't run like a collective.
"Maybe it has to run like an aircraft carrier, with one captain in absolute control and everybody else on bended knee."
"The biggest disappointment was learning that, after all, it's not only about the work on the page.
"That the writing life is not a pure meritocracy, or a refuge from office politics. All that crap still matters.
"Even at the top of the heap. Perhaps especially at the top of the heap.
"Who knew?" Had enough? Didn't think so. See Part 2 of "I Would Have Loved To Piss on Your Shoes."
—Dan Baum, in a May 2009 marathon of tweets, about two years after his New Yorker contract was not renewed.
Had enough? Didn't think so. See Part 2 of "I Would Have Loved To Piss on Your Shoes."
Thanks to Jeff Bercovici, Matt Haber, Jason Zaragoza, Michael Calderone, Glenn Garvin, Slate intern Christina Gossman, and the Fort Worth Sports Literacy Association for their help in finding these kiss-off stories. If you've got a good one that I missed, email it to email@example.com. I intend to fire all of you from my Twitter feed before you quit. (Email may be quoted by name in "The Fray," Slate's readers' forum; in a future article; or elsewhere unless the writer stipulates otherwise. Permanent disclosure: Slate is owned by the Washington Post Co.)
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I'm not aware of any series I'm watching that have been officially been put "on hold", but Daa! Daa! Daa! is sure going a slow pace
Actually, it may have been put on hold, because i believe AnimeOne finished the first season... so I'm wondering if that's all they were going to do, or don't have the second season.
Besides that... I have nothing to say :P
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Turn-A Gundam.
One group did it poorly up to episode 11, another is up to episode 7 but their release rate is positively glacial and they never widely release what they do anyway.
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What? I am washed up!
Well, I'd like to see TnK completed, but considering the quality of the last load of episodes I watched (I'm around 31 or something - no rush), I really can't complain. Some great fansubbing of behalf of A-E, but I wouldn't say no to a speed up :P
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Seichi only needs more staff. Another editor/translator/typesetter would do wonders.
Ask Dr. Rin! (HnK and Live-eviL were doing this)
Bakuretsu Tenshi (Lunar and a few others were on this one)
I don't think there are any others.....
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I think Lunar is doing a great job with Bakuretsu Tenshi and they are releasing this series in a timely manner. Animeone and Onigiri, the one I'm following is a little behind, but they're only a few days behind. there are way slower titles out there. How can you be that impatient?
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Well we should distinguish between series that *are* being worked on but just at a slow pace and series that are utterly abandoned. If the group if just slow, I don't think its worth it for someone else to pick up.
I want to see Hidamari no Ki and Dr. Slump.
Overman King Gainer is going to be announced any day now. A US dubbing studio had claimed that OKG was one their projects, but no licenser confirmed it yet.
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Of course if you're the only group bothering to sub it and you choose to do it every 3 months then no one is entitled to complain about speed. I just don't see why no group should pick up your pace just because you started subbing first.
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I always hate even thinking about responding to threads like these due to their "whiny" nature... but...
AM Driver and F-Zero (both were being done by Miyuki) would both be nice.
Side note: anyone know if that F-Zero deal with 4Kids went through? I thought it was pretty much considered that 4Kids licensed F-Zero, but AnimeSuki still lists it... so...
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Advertise our need more? How? We've posted here at asuki, we've asked in public IRC channels, we've announced our need for TLers in our topic, and what has that gotten us? Not much, unfortunately. Why? Because people who have no problems with bitching about how long we're taking DO have problems with being of assistance.
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Okay, so suppose a group which was up to date on a series suddenly loses their translator--like, they're arrested for child porn distribution, or get killed in a car crash, or something. Point being, the group isn't behind on the show, but no new episodes will get done without a new translator. What is the incentive for a translator who finds this out and wants to sub the show to join that group instead of starting their own? It's not like they'd have trouble finding people to fill the non-translator slots--they could personally fill the shoes of timer, typesetter, encoder, etc. single handedly if need be. (It certainly saves the time it would take to move the raw around within the group.) Most groups have multiple teams, so releases of different series by the group wouldn't typically be of consistent style, and even if they were, releases of this single series by that group wouldn't be any more, since the team would be different at a critical spot. And it's not like reputation is an issue--if the new translator lives up to the group's reputation, he doesn't need that reputation--he'll have his own under his own group. Conversely, if the translator doesn't live up to the group's reputation, does the group even want them? The reputation wouldn't last long when the quality dropped. And if the group refused the translator because he didn't meet their standard, and the translator went off and started his own group to continue the show, how dare anyone call him a vulture?
(Of course, I would personally hope that this translator would start subbing the show from episode 1, so that they would have scripts to release in DVDSubber format when the R2 DVDs were released, but the argument still holds.)
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Easy answers to your questions, Torgen.
- To avoid oversubbing. Unfortunately, far too few people take this into consideration these days, and that's why we get crap groups popping up left and right to oversub SamuraiChrnoChobits.
- Because the translator likes the work the group does, and thinks he/she can contribute to their releases.
- Because he doesn't want to go through the trouble of founding/running a new group, or learning a variety of new techniques when he can come in to work with an experienced staff who has a 90% probability of being able to do a better job than that one person.
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The late Johnnie Cochran, who understood police abuse as few others ever have, occasionally would ask audiences to whom he spoke this question:
"Who is the most powerful person in the entire criminal justice system?"
A variety of answers would come back, but most ultimately would settle logically on the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. "No," Johnnie would respond. "Let me tell you my friends, that the most powerful person in the entire criminal justice system is the cop on the street, because he — and only he — has the power to summarily execute you … and to get away with it." (Full disclosure: Cochran was a longtime friend and sometime associate.)
When we consider the events of recent weeks in Ferguson, Mo., and closer to home in Los Angeles, Johnnie's anecdote is worth recalling not simply as a caution against abusive policing, but also as a reminder of just how much trust our democratic nation reposes in its police officers. It is the sweeping nature of that trust that renders its betrayal such a deep affront to us all and not just to those who happen to be its immediate victims.
When a Ferguson police officer shot to death Michael Brown, an 18-year-old African American adolescent, and two Los Angeles officers killed Ezell Ford, a 25-year-old black man who suffered from various mental illnesses, we found ourselves again confronting one of the most vexing of our as-yet-undefused social flashpoints, the continuing friction between so many urban black communities and their police forces. It's helpful, though, to consider this new and familiarly painful confrontation as the latest checkpoint on a long historical continuum.
It's genuinely ironic that the first national mottos selected by America's Congress in 1782 were E Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one) and Novus Ordo Seculorum (A New Order for the Ages), and that they were at such odds with the social history that followed. The founders may have hoped that a new sort of nation would be born out of people created through unity in diversity, but the fact is that urban America's mass violence — Ferguson actually is a minor example — nearly always has grown from ethnic or racial tensions.
We all know the history of the anti-Catholic Nativist violence that set mobs against the East Coast's Irish immigrants in the mid-19th century. Who, however, recalls that many Midwestern and border-state cities like Cincinnati and Louisville were rocked by rioting against German immigrants in the 1840s and '50s. The Civil War ushered in a new era of urban rioting directed against blacks, including the New York Draft Riots of 1863 in which Irish immigrants attacked and killed free African Americans. That remains our nation's deadliest outbreak of mass urban violence.
Even so, there also were murderous anti-Chinese riots in Los Angeles (1871). Deadly street fighting among Polish, Swedish and Hungarian immigrants killed scores in Denver (1887). Anti-Italian rioting broke out in New Orleans (1891). Arab Americans attacked blacks over jobs in a local brickyard in Newburg, N.Y. (1899). Omaha, Neb., burned down its Greek immigrant neighborhood and expelled the residents in 1909. In 1930, people in Watsonville, Calif., rioted against immigrant Filipino farmworkers, and Anglo Los Angeles residents against Zoot Suit-wearing Latino men in 1943. Through it all, however, anti-black rioting, much of it extraordinarily deadly, was a constant feature of life in urban America, particularly in the Midwest and South.
Since the beginning of the civil rights era, most mass urban violence has involved outbursts of collective and self-destructive anger on the part of the cities' poor African American communities as in Los Angeles in 1965 and 1992. (In monetary terms, the latter remains the costliest outbreak of mass violence in American history.)
Viewed in this context, "Out of Many, One" can be read as a bad joke.
And yet it is as debilitating to deny just how much progress has been made toward racial equality and equal opportunity in recent decades as it is to use that progress as an excuse to look away from the crucial problems that remain to be resolved. One of those is how to extend the benefits of police reform to the entire nation. There's no better example of how pressing that need is than in the communities' starkly different reactions to the police shootings in Ferguson and Los Angeles. Ferguson, whose police force — viewed admittedly from afar — looks like a poster child for racially grounded abuse has suffered two weeks of street violence over Brown's shooting. Los Angeles, by contrast, has witnessed a handful of peaceful protests and a tense public meeting over Ford's killing.
The difference is police reform and the imposition of constitutional policing. The history of relations between LAPD and the city's black community could not be more poisonous, given that African American Los Angeles was, for generations, treated like occupied territory by an abusive, often racist police force. All that changed when the U.S. Department of Justice imposed a consent decree on LAPD, which included a detailed list of reforms. Equally important, those reforms were embraced by two consecutive mayors — James Hahn and Antonio Villaraigosa — and, most important, by two extraordinarily competent, reform-minded chiefs, Bill Bratton and Charlie Beck. Thus, when incidents like Ford's shooting happen, protests occur — and are heard. (It would help in L.A., as well as in Ferguson, if all our police would recognize that racially charged shooting incidents still require special handling. While it may violate best investigative practices, the earliest possible release of involved officers' names, autopsy results and witness statements would be well worth the risk.)
Does that mean LAPD polices the streets perfectly? Of course not. Witness the payment this week of $5 million to the family of a disabled National Guard veteran mistakenly shot to death at the end of a high-speed chase. It is in the nature off policing in this contentious and heavily armed society that our officers will sometimes make mistakes in those tense and ambiguous situations in which they find themselves. That's why it's crucial that we know that they're committed to performing their duties in a constitutional manner, free of racial animus.
Atty. Gen. Eric Holder was chief of DOJ's Civil Rights Division when L.A.'s historic consent decree was negotiated and his presence in Ferguson this week was a welcome event. If ever there was a department ripe for the sort of "pattern and practice" investigation that occurred here, it is Ferguson, where 50 of the city's 53 police officers are white in a city that's two-thirds black, and where officers appear to arrest and kill a wildly disproportionate number of young African American men.
That latter point goes to an important issue, one various right-wing commentators have used to criticize Holder's presence in Ferguson and to ridicule the city's peaceful protesters' concerns about the disproportionate number of young black men killed by police across America. Over the past seven years, American police officers have killed an average of two African Americans a week, one in five of them under 21. Over that same period, only 8 percent of the whites killed by police have been similarly under-age.
Some commentators insist that these figures are a red herring and that so-called "black on black crime" takes far more African American lives each year. While it's statistically true that 93 percent of all black homicide victims were killed by other African Americans, it's equally true that the majority of all crimes committed in America are perpetrated by people of the same race or ethnicity as the victim. In other words, when it comes to crime, as it does to Sunday worship, America still is a rigidly segregated society.
The people of Ferguson, Mo., like all Americans, deserve the constitutional policing that comes with reform — and the racial healing, imperfect though it still may be, that Los Angeles now enjoys is all the proof a person of good will should need.
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SERIOUSLY! What else was I supposed to infer from "Welcome to Arizona State"? Does the FAQ really say that? This is weird and annoying-although worth it if I am accepted.


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by Zechs » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:43 pmWow. Just wow. Words fail me at how awesome this arc was. The finale was just perfect. It's a good end, while the seeds for the third entry to this Apocalypse epic Rememder seems to be have planned is laid out.
I got an almost Dark City vibe with how the kid Apocalypse was being treated. Also what is it with the Kents pulling appearances in Marvel, but not DC? This and Carnage had two homages to them. Come on DC even your goddamn rivals know why they where a necessary point in the Superman Mythos that Bryne and the Animated Series put in. However back to Kid A, the name he chose reminds me:
So this kid is fully Apocalypse right? Cause the name Genesis was one taken by Cable's son Tyler. Who later got killed by Logan.
The only negative I could say is how disjointed Sunfire was at the end. One moment he's blasting AoA Bobby and the next he's trying to contain Holocaust (I like Genocide too but really that's his name screw Marvel taking the easy way out).
All and all, best X-Men story in years. Blows the Messiah Trilogy out of the water and Schism.
by contramundi » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:01 pmspoilers plz
by habitual » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:05 pm
by contramundi » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:10 pm
by Wally Brando » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:13 pmFucking amazing arc.
The Dark Angel Saga is an instant top 5 X-Men arc all-time. It's ridiculous how good this was. Claremont-in-his-prime good.
And the conclusion.. wow.
Those last few pages. Jesus. I mean, it was pretty obvious how this would end.. but that was rough. And then that final page? Awesome. Remender has made me care more about Warren in 18 issues than I have in a very long time. He's been kind of thrown around for the past decade or so until now.
Archangel is dead and purged from him.. and Warren stumbles out of the rubble, but has no memory? Verrry interesting.
by Zechs » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:02 pm
No... Hawk was the mad one. There is no madness in the method of Zechs!
by Grayson » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:56 pmFull Spoilers Within:
This issue begins on a good note as the heroes begin to gain some ground against Archangel and his minions. AoA Sunfire engulfs AoA Iceman and his ice duplicates in a raging inferno, while Deathlok literally reasons his way back into control of his own body and takes down War just in time to save X-Force and the AoA X-Men who were defeated last issue.
Fantomex and Psylocke confront Archangel, Psylocke is quickly defeated but Fantomex distracts Archangel long enough to brag about hooking up with Betsy. The distraction proves ineffectual though as none of Fantomex's strikes really seem to matter. After taking down Fantomex, Archangel stabs him through the forehead into his brain with his own knife.
Dark Beast, Pestilence, and War (who was previously defeated by Deathlok) have escaped back into the Akkaba Metropolis where Dark Beast announces that he is in charge now, they will be retreating to a new location, and that Pestilence is pregnant with Archangel's heir.
Despite having a knife sticking out of his brain, Fantomex is still alive and able to contact Ultimaton. He tells Ultimaton to play a message and "let him out." Ultimaton warns him that the subject isn't ready but Fantomex tells him to do it anyway.
Psylocke has recovered and is angry that Archangel took Fantomex from her. He accuses her of being a weak woman with no identity but Betsy unleashes all her power claiming that she is more than he will ever know. This is enough to momentarily incapacitate Archangel, buying Betsy the time that she needs to strike him with the Life Seed...but she hesitates thus giving Archangel time to recover and thrown her through a wall and off of a cliff.
Inside of a virtual reality program, Fantomex appears at a small country farm. A young man named Evan, who looks a lot like Apocalypse, lives with an elderly couple named the "Sabahnurs." He refers to Fantomex as "Uncle Cluster" just in time for good old "Uncle Cluster" to tell him that the world that he knows is about to disappear. His world does in fact disappear and he wakes up inside the World. Ultimaton is taking care of him and tells him that he now has to save them all.
Having defeated Psylocke and Fantomex and having no more obstacles in his way, Archangel makes his way to Doom Fountain to conclude his plans only to discover that AoA Sunfire is now absorbing all of Genocide's energy, preventing the fountain from jump starting evolution. The distraction allows Evan to engage Archangel. Unfortunately, he wasn't ready to face Archangel yet and is quickly outclassed and overpowered. Waiting in the shadows, Psylocke quickly takes advantage and finally plunges the Life Seed into Archangel's chest, reverting his mind back to Warren.
Fantomex and Ultimaton speed towards Sunfire, hoping to help him before Genocide's flames burn him out, however they arrive too late.
As Warren lays dying, Betsy attempts to comfort him. She enters his mind and allows him to live an entire lifetime with her, complete with two children. Together they grow old, watch their children grown up and get married, and then when they are old Warren peacefully slips away while Psylocke calls him her hero.
Back in reality, Fantomex desperately attempts to bring Betsy out of her trance as the World is crumbling around them. She wants to be left with Warren but Fantomex convinces her to leave. When they pick up Deathlok, we discover that at least Wolverine, Deadpool, AoA Sabretooth, AoA Nightcrawler, and AoA Jean Grey survived and that Deathlok was able to recover control of his body discovering love. He also proudly proclaims that he loves his team. AoA Jean Grey congratulates Betsy on her victory while in the distance a very naked Warren wanders through the snow. Betsy runs to him and kisses him, only for him to ask "Who are you?"
by DeadFett » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:45 pmGreat ending to a great arc. One of my favorite X stories of all time. I found this post while slumming at the CBR boards from Remender which raises a very interesting question about Warren at the end.
I might regret doing this, but I saw a few things here I figured I'd clear up for the folks who enjoyed the story.
Warren did die. His mind is 100% gone, he's dead.
What/who was that at the end?
The AoA spin off series and the creative team involved are incredible, miss it at your own peril. Marvel isn't launching new ongoings lightly. The team have crafted an exciting and smart comic.
Hurling casual insults, judging a book before you read it, it's called "contempt prior to investigation" and it's a bad thing to do. Give that first issue a read, you'll see.
by George_Kaplan » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:49 pmIs it my imagination or
did Angel's wings at the end still seem somewhat metallic?
by e_galston » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:51 pm
i thought that too.. they didn't look how the feather wings usually look.
by Grayson » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:54 pm
Yup, they were definitely a mixture of his organic and metallic wings.
by DeadFett » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:07 pm
I thought the same thing. I'm actually glad they're keeping something of Archangel with Warren.
by guitarsmashley » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:34 pmYeah I've been saying since issue 1 that this was the best book Marvel was putting out and it still holds true to the end of this epic story. Rememder has knocked this book and all it's characters right out of the park.
by Wally Brando » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:02 am
Remember, though.. Archangel had become a completely seperate entity within Warren. Very Phoenix-ian. But Warren's body had undergone the transformation into the metallic wings years ago. That was a done deal. I don't know why anyone would expect his real wings to return just because the Archangel being inside him was killed.
As for Remender's quote from CBR.. I can see that. In a way, Warren is dead, sure. With his memory completely gone, he's no longer the same person. It should be interesting to see where they go from here with him. It's basically a clean slate. As long as Remender gets to continue his story, I trust him fully. It's only when other people get their hands on him that I worry, mainly for what I said earlier.. Warren has been horrible mistreated as a character throughout the years, until recently.
by Wally Brando » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:03 am
Also.. what happened with Kid Apocalypse? At first I thought he died, but then they took his body with them, so I guess not.
Does he join Logan's school? Go back into The World?
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Is a video stream its a lil choppy but better than nothing id watch it if I didn't have nfl network
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watch it live on NFL.com tonight instead, great quality and tons of camera angles
the audio link will broadcast the game when it starts, it's just commercials inbetween the pregame talk.
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Author Notes: My mother used to make corn and vegetable au gratin. It had no cheese-just flour, milk, corn and salt and pepper. We didn't have an oven back then, so she cooked it on the stove top and the flour in the gratin would help set it as it cooled. Any leftovers would be spread on toast the next morning for breakfast. I made a variation of the recipe for Thanksgiving last year with Masa flour which gives the dish an earthy taste. I also sustituted some of the milk with buttermilk for a slightly tart taste. —vegetarianirvana
Serves: 3-4
tablespoons unsalted butter
cup milk, 1 % or higher fat content
2 1/2
tablespoons Masa Harina flour
cups of corn kernels cut off the cob [mix of white and yellow would make an interesting combination]
2 tablespoons buttermilk
and pepper to taste.
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- Preheat oven to 375
- Melt the butter in a pan over medium flame. Add the Masa flour and milk, whisk continuously till it thickens, about 2-3 minutes. Turn the stove off. .
- Add the corn, buttermilk, salt and pepper to taste. Mix well.
- Pour into a baking dish, cover with foil and bake in a 375 degree oven for at least half an hour till the gratin is bubbling nicely and the corn kernels are cooked through when tested. If not, bake till the corn doesn't have the raw and crunchy texture.
- Turn the oven off . Remove the foil. Turn the broiler on. Place the dish directly underneath it and broil the gratin till there are nice brown spots on the surface. Remove and let it sit for a few minutes before serving.
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Nars Love blush ($29) is called "tea rose." In my mind, it's a soft misty rose, with a touch of gray and mauve. It's one of those universal shades that looks amazing applied softly with a strong lip, or built up for a slightly bolder cheek. Here is Nars Love on Liz (over foundation and Tom Ford Gold Dust Bronzer, with Nars Stourhead on her lips):
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NARS Final Cut blush is peach coral. This is a color that looks lovely with warm tones, including mixing well with bronzers. Surprisingly, these shades can play well with some reds.
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Like a dozen roses, NARS Final Cut has brought out some beautiful, brightening shades. This gorgeous collection is currently available on Nordstom.com, and will be available on Nars online site and Nars boutiques beginning March 1, 2014.
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European Banks Still Hoarding Money
Worries about the euro-zone debt crisis, economy and regulatory uncertainty mean that European banks still prefer to hoard cash with their central banks rather than lend it out. WSJ's David Enrich has been crunching the figures that show little change in the trend.
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Subject heading is not to brag, but to show that weight loss doesn't have to be really slow on NO S. I consider 10 lbs in 10 weeks a pretty good rate of weight loss.
First the stats. I am 3 weeks shy of 52 today, and female. I am 5.5" tall, and went from 138 lbs to 128 lbs.
My mods: S days are Mon and Fri. This works better for me because I never have more than 3 N days in a row. As a result, I am not experiencing the tendency to go wild on S days that happened on previous attempts with No S. I have exactly 2 "S events" per S day, usually cookies for one and a salty snack for the other. I also get at least an hour a day of exercise.
I don't think I have any more weight to lose really, so whatever happens from here happens. But I am going to keep eating the same way because it is working.
More than just dropping 10 lbs, my mind is now much more free. I don't have to weigh, count, or measure anything. I don't worry about what or when I'm going to eat next. The mental baggage and angst that was previously associated with food is gone. Actually, I consider that a bigger accomplishment than the weight loss.
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Congratulations on your loss. it's great that you found a way that works well for you.
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Thanks gingerpie.
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Congratulations on your good success and mental freedom! Thanks for sharing.
Vicki in MNE
7! Yrs. with Vanilla NoS, down 55+lb, happily maintaining and still loving it!
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Thanks, much appreciated.
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Congratulations, wxwoman! And thanks for sharing your success here.
Interesting mod spacing the S-days apart like that.
Great to hear that you're continuing No-s even though you don't have anything more to lose.
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Thanks, Reinhard. I was surprised to see a blurb with my post appear on my FB page.
I am thrilled with No S. I feel like my years of dieting and food obsession are finally behind me.
Thanks a lot.
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I love the idea of changing your S day's so you don't have more than three N day's in a row. I have struggled to stick with the No S Diet and I think your idea might just do the trick. I will have to try and see how it works. My S Day's would have to be Sunday because we eat a big meal and have dessert at my mother in laws house and the other day I would pick is Thursday.
Sunday: S Day
Tuesday: N Day
Wednesday: N Day
Thursday: S Day
Friday: N Day
Saturday: N Day
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Thank you for posting! I have fewer than 10 lbs to lose, and it's encouraging to know that it can be done in a reasonable amount of time. Your post gives me hope (although I'm not pressuring myself to lose by X date; my main focus is establishing the habit).
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I think the S days mod is the key to sticking with No S this time.
On my previous attempts, which I think was at least 4, I would just be nuts by the time Sat rolled around, and pretty much permasnack all weekend long. Not every single weekend, but most. I felt as if each weekend I lost whatever ground I had gained during the week.
Spacing out the S days has taken care of this problem. As extra insurance, I have only two things on S days, usually a snack and a sweet. So I enjoy my S days with no guilt, and just move on.
The other thing I've noticed is that I feel better having only 1 S day at a time. After a couple treats, I feel like I want to have an N day again.
Let me know how you do.
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It's over 11 weeks now, and I'm down another lb. So it's still about 1 lb per week, but at some point that will stop. It could stop now and that would be fine. But this definitely works.
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Thanks for sharing this! My starting stats are about the same as you. 5'6", 140 lbs. I just began on Saturday. It's exciting to hear that those with 10-15 lbs to lose have success as well.
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Congrats that good, sane, sustainable habits got you where you are.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
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There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
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|Bobby at the Manassas Civil War Battlefield
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
A Surprise..Some Crafty Sisters and A Table
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- Katie said...
Love the table! A stained wood top and painted base is one of my favorites.
- October 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM
- Kelly Ann said...
It was fun seeing the sisters and meeting the dude that was hangin' with them....
- October 19, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Looks like so stinkin' much fun! Wish my sister could have come for a visit this fall, but airline fees kept her home.. boo hoo....
- October 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM
- Holly Loves Art said...
Hi Janet,
Oooh what a newsy post! Just loved seeing all the happy family members and boy oh boy the banner project is just too cute for words. So clever! Always love coming here to see what you're up to. Happy Fall!
Take care,
- October 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM
- Annette said...
Sounds like a perfect weekend. I don't have a brother, but time spent with my sisters is always fun and special. I think the bottom of the table compliments the wood top beautifully. Good job! :)
- October 20, 2011 at 2:27 AM
- Atelier Conti said...
What a fun post, Janet! I love the project you did with your sisters! I wish I had been there to participate. The results are adorable. And if I ever come to your part of the world, I definitely want to go shopping with you! I can't believe the things you're able to find. I'm hoping this winter to make the trek to find the chalk paint and start doing a bit of refinishing on some of my old tired furniture! I'm sure I'll be referring back to this post for inspiration.
- October 20, 2011 at 3:10 AM
- Gretel said...
What a lovely time I've had, looking at your weekend, it looks so warm and happy. Bobby looks nice. And the bonus of another lovely piece of furniture!
- October 20, 2011 at 4:09 AM
- Claire said...
Oooh, aren't you devious..........what a wonderful surprise for Bobby. How much fun did you guys have? I can imagine there was a lot of laughter going on amongst the crafting and thrift shopping....another fab makeover Janet.
Maddy did an excellent job making the Fall wreath, great colours. Love the red door too.
A wonderful family post,
Claire :}
- October 20, 2011 at 8:20 AM
- Kathleen Grace said...
You mean your brother and sisters chose the same days to visit without knowing it? How cool that your sibs love to get together:>) It sounds like you had a really great time. I love the painted bottom of your new table, I have a table I have been eyeing to redo in the living room and I may see about some AS paint to do it since yous seem to be having such great results. SO far I love everything you have redone with that paint and the fact that you don't have to sand before painting appeals to me a lot!
- October 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM
- Michele said...
wow, you have been busy!!! Love it all! Family is so important and being together is the BEST!
- October 20, 2011 at 10:40 AM
- Wanda..... said...
I always leave here in an inspiration-overload state, Janet...wanting to do or make every lovely thing I see you post! You have a great looking family!
- October 20, 2011 at 12:04 PM
I need to stop by Fox Den and visit the tables...gorgeous!!!!
- October 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM
- Hartwood Roses said...
Di, The Blue Ridge Gal, just sent me over here. I love what I see, and I will DEFINITELY be back ... in fact, I intend to hit the Follower button AND add you to my sidebar as soon as I finish here. As I'm reading, I discover that you're just up the road from me! It's a very small world. (This also reminds me that it's been too long since I have seen my brother and sister, though they only live about an hour away, so I think I'll pick up the phone this evening and see how they are doing.) I'll be back ... you can guarantee it.
- October 20, 2011 at 2:41 PM
- free indeed said...
You did an excellant job! Wish I had your eye and talent. Painting the bottom and leaving the gorgeous wood was exactly the right thing to do!
- October 20, 2011 at 4:37 PM
- Tweed Delights said...
Hey Janet! Lovely to see pics of your visiting family - just one thing missing from them . . . YOU!!! (very disappointed :() Love the beautiful wreath your sister made - it's great that you 'insist', sorry 'encourage' them to get involved in a crafty project, hehe! The finished table looks fab :)
(Sorry, have been off the radar for a little while - too many hours at the office and now on October break!)
- October 21, 2011 at 5:34 AM
- Lorraine Young Pottery said...
Great transformation on that table, the curves are special!
Lorraine :-}
- October 21, 2011 at 9:58 AM
- The LadyBugs Garden said...
Janet you did good girl..She is just beautiful.
I am still excited you came to visit me in Texas with Mr Secret Agent Friday. I had not seen you all in 11 years. We must have hugged each other a dozen times. My sweet friend!
Love and Kisses
Stephanie :))
- October 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM
- Kathryn Ferguson Griffin said...
Looks like you guys had a great time together! Loved the crafting picture! And, the table is gorgeous! You've done it again! Hope you're having a grand evening! Toodles, Kathryn @TheDedicatedHouse
- October 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM
- Hines-Sight said...
Looks like you have a talented family.
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Reflections from Lakewood: A Talk with Mayor Madeline Cain
A holiday wreath hangs on the door to Madeline Cain's office in Lakewood City Hall. The gold letters under "Office of the Mayor" will soon be replaced with the name of long-time councilman Thomas George. Next to the door, is a wall with more than a dozen portraits of Lakewood mayors past, each one a black and white photograph, all men, in suits and ties.
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