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Marlins blank Nats, win sixth straight, return to .500
MIAMI -- A couple of All-Stars lifted the Marlins back to the break-even point on Tuesday night.
Henderson Alvarez threw seven scoreless innings, and Giancarlo Stanton drove in two runs as Miami blanked Washington, 3-0, at Marlins Park.View Full Game Coverage
MIAMI -- A couple of All-Stars lifted the Marlins back to the break-even point on Tuesday night.
Henderson Alvarez threw seven scoreless innings, and Giancarlo Stanton drove in two runs as Miami blanked Washington, 3-0, at Marlins Park.View Full Game Coverage
The Marlins scratched out just enough to get the best of Stephen Strasburg, who yielded four hits and struck out four in seven innings.
The Marlins extended their winning streak to six games, and they have taken nine of 10. Suddenly, the re-energized team is frantically working the phones trying to make additions before Thursday's non-waiver Trade Deadline.
"Those guys are excited," Miami manager Mike Redmond said. "There's a lot of confidence in there. They're having fun. We're relaxed. We feel like we're in the game no matter what happens, even if we go a few innings without scoring or getting a hit."
Miami climbed back to .500 (53-53) for the first time since June 25 (39-39). It was a long haul back, especially after dropping to a season-worst eight under (44-52) on July 19.
Stanton, who now has 71 RBIs, says any additions would be welcome.
"Any help we can get to make us better is always good," Stanton said. "You never know what it's going to be, or if there are going to be ones. But any additions will help."
Once again Alvarez stepped up like an ace. Miami has won 12 of his last 14 starts.
"Henderson was great," Redmond said. "It looked like early he didn't have his best stuff. It kind of took him a little bit of time to settle into that game and get in a flow. We talk about pitchers some nights not having their best stuff and having to compete, and I think you saw that tonight -- competing and battling without his best stuff."
At first, it looked like it would be a rough outing for the right-hander, who was wild early and appeared to be injured. He was tended to on the mound in the second inning after walking two and loading the bases with no outs.
If anything was wrong, it quickly turned right. Alvarez scattered just three hits over his seven shutout innings. Although he had a season-high four walks, he struck out four and exited after 102 pitches with a one-run lead.
"I didn't feel very good. I was in the bullpen and I didn't feel like I always feel before I hit the field," Alvarez said. "I wasn't into it. For several innings, I had to fight through it."
The Marlins broke through in the sixth inning on Jordany Valdespin's single and Stanton's scorched liner to left that traveled to the wall. The RBI was Stanton's 70th of the season.
"I haven't felt good for a while now," Stanton said. "I did a little setup pregame. Hopefully I'm feeling better and more comfortable at the plate. Today was a good plus to that."
Asked why Stanton continues to torture the Nationals, Strasburg said, "He is a good mistake hitter. I just got to do a better job executing pitches."
In the eighth, the Nationals put the pressure on when Bryan Morris walked two, including Wilson Ramos with two outs. Mike Dunn entered to face Bryce Harper, who popped a first-pitch slider to short left field that was collected by shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria to end the inning.
Christian Yelich delivered an RBI double and Stanton added an RBI single in the eighth to drive in insurance runs for Steve Cishek, who pitched a scoreless ninth for his 27th save. Cishek did have to work, as he loaded the bases, but the closer ended the game by striking out Anthony Rendon.
Pinpoint command is one of the reasons Alvarez has been so successful and was named an All-Star for the first time.
So when the right-hander walked three in the first two innings, including two in the second inning, the Marlins were concerned. Redmond, pitching coach Chuck Hernandez and assistant trainer Mike Kozak visited the mound after Alvarez walked Ian Desmond to load the bases with no outs in the second.
Alvarez insisted he was fine, and he worked out of the major jam. It took 33 pitches, but the right-hander left the bases full by striking out Danny Espinosa. Nate McLouth slapped a liner that could have done big damage, but it was snared by third baseman Casey McGehee, who made a diving catch and nearly rolled onto third base for a double play. The threat ended when Strasburg, with the count full, bounced to second.
Entering the night, Alvarez had walked three batters total in 29 2/3 innings in July.
"It's good to have a good game like this," Alvarez said. "Not just for myself but for the team. We need to keep working hard, going out there and keep getting these results. It's good for the fans as well, for the fans who come out and support us."
Joe Frisaro is a reporter for MLB.com. He writes a blog, called The Fish Pond. Follow him on Twitter @JoeFrisaro.


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Midweek at OLAB: Labor Deal, Tie Dye• July 14, 2010 Share:
The 45 high school seniors attending the Opportunities to Learn About Business program at Wabash College have been drilled by a series of lectures, workshops, and decision-making games since their arrival on Sunday. By Wednesday, their fictional companies faced a strike by union employees.
The students, who come from 11 states and Korea, have been broken up into nine teams of five students (team pictures here). Each team is competing in the overcrowded consumer electronics market, and their companies have to ride the waves of business.
From accounting exercises to split-second decisions on pricing, production, inventory, and employee wages, the "Labbies" have begun to figure out how businesses are run.
But on Wednesday, just as they were getting into a groove with "quarterly" decisions, their fictional workforce threatened an industry-wide strike. OLAB students were forced to grapple with pay increases as they relate to productivity, while real lawyers, bankers, and union labor negotiators tried to pry away as much from corporate leadership as possible.
See photographs of Wednesday's labor negotiations here.
After being prepped by Professor Humberto Barreto (above right), this year, the labor negotiators bargained for — and got — wild wage increases, day care and fitness centers, as well as improved safety conditions in the factories.
"Of course, the entire OLAB experience is a business simulation," said OLAB Director Jim Amidon. "But when you have these guys in suits show up on Wednesday morning, the students suddenly realize that all of the concepts they have learned throughout the week actually occur in real life."
Wabash alumni Jon Pactor '71, Rick Cavanaugh '76, Greg Estell '85, and Kyle Coffey '06 were joined by Eric Lindley and Rick Dennerline to cut deals with the nine OLAB companies. Lindley is a vice president with Old National Bank and is affiliated with OLAB sponsor The Goodrich Trust. Dennerline, a Duke graduate, is a labor negotiator in real life.
"I'm indebted to Jon Pactor, who sets up the negotiators every year," said Amidon. "All of these men sacrifice a lot to spend half a day at OLAB, and our program is stronger for it.
The teams had two hours to strike a labor deal or risk a strike, which would effectively put them out of the competition. A series of seven quarterly business decisions, coupled with results of the labor negotiations (wages and productively), drive the computer simulation. The teams also develop marketing strategies and advertising campaigns that will help determine the "Best Managed Firm" award winners.
Also on hand Wednesday were several of the program's sponsors. In addition to Lindley, who represented the program's signature sponsor, The Goodrich Trust, three members of the Crawfordsville Kiwanis Club (Bud Arnold, Gloria German, and Joe O'Rourke) and Joe Kiley of the Carmel Rotary Club also sat in on the union labor negotiations.
"One of the best aspects of the labor negotiations is when the sponsors sit in to see how much the students have learned in such a short period of time, and how much confidence they've gained," said Amidon.
Kiley, who is a Wabash alumnus, has linked the Carmel Rotary Club to OLAB for many years. This year there are seven students from Carmel, Indiana participating in OLAB.
"I don't know if it's me or not, but the kids in this program just seem to get smarter and smarter every year," joked Kiley after sitting in on a heated negotiation between Jon Pactor and Team Two.
"I just love this program and what it does for young people, and we're glad to support it in any way we can."
Late Wednesday, Labbies began to turn their attention from finance to marketing and advertising. Once their factories were up and running and a labor deal was in place, the students developed strategies to reach their target markets, which determined the features and benefits of their hand-held devices.
The 38th OLAB program ends with commencement ceremonies on Saturday at 2 p.m.

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Dec 31, 2007, 10:37 PM
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Why would it be that far out of line to imagine a guy with no formal training but 1 or maybe 2 static line jumps thinking that they could manage to pull a ripcord and live? Someone with the balls to hijack a plane might have the balls to jump without a lot of practice, right?
There were so many good replies to Ckret's post that it was hard to pick the right one to quote -- and Zing your post was excellent - so I just picked one.
I know that not all agree with me that Duane was Cooper - but I know he was
. If the FBI would contact me and really listen to me -- they might find the clues that will lead them to their answers. Not all do I tell in the forum - when it involves other people from Duane's past.
I have told the FBI and others over and over:
Duane was desperate - a man diagnosed with a disease that was considered to be fatal at that time and with a painful life on rudimentary dialysis. He did not want to die the way his mother did - and he made his choice --- his one last chance to prove he was not a Mouse or a misfit who had to live up to the image of his brother.
Duane had access to the schematics of the Boeing 727 and what they could and could not do. Do I have to shout this from the Front Page of NewsWeek?
I have tried to tell the FBI about how he may have learned to skyjump...if not in the service.
1. In the service (legally or illegally) - replacing someone else before going over.
2. A friend and family member in Colorado.
3. A group of individuals training for a not so legal action in Mn.
4. San Quentin/Folsom - prison fire-jumpers.
5. In Mississippi in the 60's - the fact that he was not in the prison he was supposed to be in - and was seen by a family member in Miami..he gets an early release from that prison and disappeared with a new identification from 1962 until 1968. AND other unusual involvement during this same period.
This involvement may be the reason the FBI has never found Cooper...?
6. His involvement with individuals who had private planes - before and after.
7. The fact that he is in NY in Jan of 1972 - purchases two new cars and sends his wife to CA. and pays for all of the moving expenses...when he has made virtually no money in 1971.
8. He matches the Revised FBI composite and the extra composite done by TV for Shaffner.
9. He made trips to Wa. alone when married to the prior wife.
10. He had contacts in WA. and one of these was an individual who was stationed there in 71. Plus, how and why did he know the area to the extent that he did not look at a map the whole time we were in WA. and OR.
When Minnie let the cat out of the bag she left a trail that could lead right back to Mouse...but not a soul cared except Mouse...he made a plan just incase.
Dec 31, 2007, 11:38 PM
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Copied from the write up you did Carr:
"And what of some of the names pegged as Cooper? None have panned out. Duane Weber, who claimed to be Cooper on his deathbed, was ruled out by DNA testing (we lifted a DNA sample from Coopers tie in 2001)."
IF this is true - then why did they contact me in 2003 for Duane's DNA. and then
DID not test that DNA until Nov. of 2006
- only
after I contacted your office regarding a covert action
I had been made aware of....
I understand that Multiple DNA was extracted from
a mis-handled tie.
The fact that the cigarette butts have been missing since 2003
substantiates the possiblility the tie was not kept in a manner that would make the DNA evidence valid
...in fact....I am being to believe that the tie you have may not be the original tie. If someone was negligent enough to allow the cigarette butts to disappear - might they also have lost the tie and replaced it with a substitute. The butts they couldn't replace - so they just hoped no one would ever notice.
If the evidence was handled properly as required by law then the cigarrette butts would also be there and you would know exactly who lost them and when.
Until you can publicly announce what happened to the evidence and produce the cigarette butts then you
publicly state that the DNA rules out Duane L. Weber. All you do is cause someone who may have known him or suspect him to continue to stay silent.
The FBI does NOT intend to solve this case - if they did they would have investigated Duane's past more. I know what I saw and
what I held in my hands
- DO you or the FBI want me to take a lie detector test? I will be more than glad to do so.
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Jan 1, 2008, 1:02 AM
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Zing, what do you base your belief on that Cooper lived and walked out of the forest with $200,000 dollars?
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Jan 1, 2008, 1:04 AM
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I think your absolutly right labrys, Cooper didn't have the skill or know how to survive the jump, he thought he could and was willing to give it a try for $200,000.
Jan 1, 2008, 7:54 AM
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All you can show is a couple of stacks of cash from the night in question and the feds say it washed down stream, I don't think so. You find me what is left of a body and some old parachute shit hanging in a tree or in a pile on the forest floor covering the bones, or even the rest of the money any other proof you got that says that cooper isn't sitting on a beach sipping on a cool one and burning a big fatty someplace where the weather is great year round and the "powers that be" are on the take or easy to payoff.
Till then, ya got nothing that says that he didn't make it out.
I bet it was one of your (US GOV) drug mules from SE Asia who made it out of the black operations in cambodia or one of those "other" places we didn't fight the war......LOL, and this special forces dude came home pissed off and hooked on that good dope the US Gov. and their allies in SE Asia were moving to "pay for" the war. 200K would by a lot of smack back then if you knew who's general to go get it from.
And seeing how I know a handful of guys who were in "those countries" (but their records say different) that is not all that far fetched...... about as far fetched as DB Cooper couldn't have made it out, that is.
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Jan 1, 2008, 8:35 AM
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I think your absolutly right labrys, Cooper didn't have the skill or know how to survive the jump, he thought he could and was willing to give it a try for $200,000.
Well.... I didn't actually mean to suggest that I thought it wasn't survivable, Ckret. I just meant to say that I don't think it's that necessary to look for someone with a lot of jumping experience. Since I'm a newer jumper with no experience on rounds my opinion is open to a lot of question, I guess.
Then again, having never jumped a round, would I jump from a jet at night over unknown territory for a million dollars or so (taking the value of the 200K into today's terms)?
Yeah, I probably would. Hell, it's a chance but it doesn't seem that terrible. I know how to PLF (something everyone learns for their first jump), I've seen a number of people land in tress without significant injury... yeah. I'd do it.
Jan 1, 2008, 8:46 AM
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Zing, what do you base your belief on that Cooper lived and walked out of the forest with $200,000 dollars?
As I have said before and I think the old guys here will agree. This jump was entirely doable even for someone with limited skills.
Ever wonder why one segment of smokejumpers still uses rounds ? They are great for tree landings. Cooper took a shot......jumped...walked out, called a bud or his girlfriend ,who was in the area, and if hes still alive at his advanced age,is enjoying this immensely.
You keep asking us for proof , Ckret , we keep telling you , you are full of shit and that this jump was easily done and surviveable.
Let me turn the table....you show some "proof" it wasnt.
As Stratostar said....lets see some bones...harness material or canopy. Heres a bit of "proof" the harness canopy could have survived 36 years in the forest.
I offer the WWII airmans bodies they keep finding on that glacier year after year.....with intact parachute gear on their bodies. This plane went down in 42.
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Jan 1, 2008, 9:13 AM
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just out of curiosity's sake, did the FBI ever record the serial numbers of the gear that was used?? us riggers do keep logbooks and MAYBE some of the gear found its way back into use?
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Jan 1, 2008, 9:31 AM
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just out of curiosity's sake, did the FBI ever record the serial numbers of the gear that was used?? us riggers do keep logbooks and MAYBE some of the gear found its way back into use?
Somebody check Guru's closet?
Jan 1, 2008, 10:27 AM
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I don't think I ever asked for proof, I asked you and anyone else that has a theory to state what they based their belief on. What evidence did you use to come to your conclusions and how did you logically get there.
To answer your question Bozo, I know this jump was survivable because many have done it, not under the conditions and equipment used by Cooper, but did it and walked away without a scratch.
"Cooper walked out called a friend and lived off the money." what do you base that on? I don't need proof, but something more than a statement.
My main goal for being here is not to debate theory on Cooper but to supply you information from the case files about the investigation and hopefully gain information back from you.
When I ask a question about a persons theory it's not to debate or challenge but to gain insight as to how you arrived at your conclusion and see the case from another perspective.
Like wise, if you have questions as to how I arrived at my conclusions ask away. The last go around about the chutes and money I learned several things from some of you that helped, especially about he the found money. It made me go back dig in the files and rethink my theory.
Above all as we progress in this case, lets keep things constructive. Because I put something out about the case it does not mean it is set in stone. i am trying to get people back into it and come to the table with skill and science that may one day solve it. Had i not gone to the public or you folks there would be no chance of that happening.
Jan 1, 2008, 10:29 AM
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Yes we have the serial numbers and interviewd the rigger. One chute was returned to it's owner, two were never found and one is in evidence.
Jan 1, 2008, 1:48 PM
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I could go on, but still I think Cooper's hijack plan was much better thought out than the FBI and a lot of jumpers choose to believe. I also think it more likely that he survived the jump than that he bounced.
I have thought much about this whole issue and I agree with Zing that it was thought out, but I don't know how well.
As with anything being done for the first time, one can't always anticipate the difficulties and the consequences---Murphy's Law is always there, lurking, Zing.
Where I see the planning being less than needed is with the issue I've read here recently about DB cutting up a rig to tie the money to his body. Am I correct that the FA told of DB securing the money to his body with line from one of the rigs?
If he did, in fact, tie the money to his body, I think this was his biggest error. I've made lots of jumps with equipment of various sorts and carrying, or attempting to carry, objects in freefall.
Can someone clarify or speculate "how" he actually tied the money to himself?
In my opinion, it is NOT a trivial issue to improvise a secure method for doing this. What tools/equipment did he use? Cutting nylon cloth and suspension line is not an easy task with good scissors or a sharp-edged tool. In the galley of the aircraft, or on the floor, is not an easy place to wrap the money securely and then secure the package to his body. What was the package like and how was it secured to his body?
He knew that the aft door could be opened in flight--HALO jumps were being made by Special Forces from 727s at that time--so that's pretty easy to accomplish. What I can't visualize is how he exited.
Any non-symmetrical body position--such as he'd have if he tried to hold the package as he pulled the ripcord--is going to exacerbate the turbulence and burbles which would tug at the package.
In my advert I used the words "...holding the attache case in freefall" I wrote that ad ten minutes after hearing a news broadcast about the hijacking. The news blurb that I heard mentioned that he jumped with the money in an attache case. Now, I find that he left his attache case and the fake bomb on the plane but with the money tied to his body somehow.
Bottom line: I think that--if he lived--he lost the package from the aerodynamic forces that tugged at the totally improvised tie-job. Even an experienced jumper would have difficulty staying stable while contending with forces on the precious payload package. I'd guess the money was ripped from his body...and he was left with nothing but a cool story to tell.
Jan 1, 2008, 2:41 PM
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Cooper cut cords with a pocket knife and used the pieces to bind the canvass bag the money came in. He never used any pieces of the canopy. Mucklow stated that she saw Cooper securing the money bag with more cut pieces of cord around his waist.
Cooper knew the air stairs could be opened in flight but he was wrong as to how they opened and knew little to nothing of their operation.
He did not leave the briefcase on the plane, it has never been found.
Jan 1, 2008, 5:48 PM
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I don't think I ever asked for proof, I asked you and anyone else that has a theory to state what they based their belief on. What evidence did you use to come to your conclusions and how did you logically get there.
I started on military surplus rounds in 73, and I can tell you from personal experiance, landing in a tree or two is very doable and without injury!!!
I would repeat what oter posters have said, implied, and hinted at and say you show us proof he didn't make it.
Proving he could have has been demonstrted by everyone who ever landed in a tree and walked away.
Out of the and at night??? Not that big a challeng I believe.
Jan 1, 2008, 6:54 PM
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landing in a tree was half the problem:
staying warm through the night was the other problem. ive slep in 20F while only using a canopy (Dry F111). stayed toasy warm. Is it possible to stay warm in wet material from a cheapo ....i believe so but am not sure. im thinking one would be warm...but still wet.
any experience sleeping in an older wet canopy?
anyone want to try? fbi man??
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Jan 1, 2008, 7:06 PM
Post #816 of 1694 (8573 views)
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this was on AOL...
FBI Makes New Bid to Find 1971 Skyjacker
Posted: 2008-01-01 17:36:50
Filed Under: Crime News, Nation News
PORTLAND, Ore. (Jan. 1) - The FBI is making a new stab at identifying mysterious skyjacker Dan Cooper, who bailed out of an airliner in 1971 and vanished, releasing new details that it hopes will jog someone's memory.
The man calling himself Dan Cooper, also known as D.B. Cooper, boarded a Northwest flight in Portland for a flight to Seattle on the night of Nov, 24, 1971, and commandeered the plane, claiming he had dynamite.
Who Was
D.B. Cooper?5 of 5 A number of people have claimed to be D.B. Cooper over the years -- notably, a man named Duane L. Weber whose deathbed confession inspired a July 2000 U.S. News and World Report article.
The FBI ruled him out as a suspect after cross-referencing his genetic profile with DNA left on the clip-on tie Cooper wore during the heist.
Source: AP
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Jan 1, 2008, 7:24 PM
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no one can prove anything thing until we either find his bones or he comes out of hiding and tells his story.
We can, however, look at the totality of the facts we do have and come to a logical investigative theory as to what happened.
Taking one or two pieces of the investigation and developing a theory isn't going to set a successful course. One must start from the beginning to end, weigh all of the facts and see where they point.
The question is not could someone make the jump, of course the jump is possible. The question is knowing everything we know about Cooper, the equipment and the conditions, did DB Cooper make the jump on 11/24/1971 and did DB Cooper make it out of the forest with the money and off to live his life?
By the way, the main focus of the investigation to date has been on the living, that has not worked. Over 1000 people have been looked at and not one was risen to the surface.
Jan 1, 2008, 7:54 PM
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" Am I correct that the FA told of DB securing the money to his body with line from one of the rigs? "
"If he did, in fact, tie the money to his body, I think this was his biggest error."
"Can someone clarify or speculate "how" he actually tied the money to himself?"
" What was the package like and how was it secured to his body?"
"What I can't visualize is how he exited."
"Any non-symmetrical body position---------------exacerbate the turbulence and burbles which would tug at the package."
"...holding the attache case in freefall"
"I'd guess the money was ripped from his body...and he was left with nothing but a cool story to tell."
I am going to throw some scenarios out there about the above questions. Remember I am not a jumper but the things I am going to say
come from unrelated skyjack conversations in the past with Duane and/or something he did under another circumstance.
1. In one conversation he talked about how to tie a package to one's self
without fear of loosing it in "water"...he showed me a knot that was used that would allow you to release the package so it would not pull you under and yet keep it close enough for maneuvering and that properly encased also lent itself as a buoy.
2. He would have tied the package to himself in this manner -
he was a master of knots.
Close enough to hold, but able to release if necessary. He would have had
another wrapper for the package (probably waterproof) that would have fit easily in the briefcase.
He would not leave the briefcase -he was too careful of prints to allow that.
A fact that may substantiate the other unusual clip in his belongings
- remember that
I describe two items.
3. How he exited the plane? - this I know because of two reasons: Experiments with the Boeing (which Duane was aware of - remember Duane's brother was a consultant for the army for Boeing)
was to back down the aftstairs to the very end and to drop off.
Packages were dropped in this manner - they were not pitched out but slid down the aftstairs and then release. The other reason is the Dream - he was reaching out with one hand upward as if to grasp...but it was just a dream and only my word.
4. He was very good at putting things in small packages - I am sure he utilized everything he took and what was available. He would have quessed they might not deliver the package as requested. One
he would have utilized that dummy pack for parts
or had clips with him or removed them from the other chute
to secure it to himself. The money he pulled out to give Tina - he would have stuffed in his pockets and would have stuffed other pockets also...hence why some of the money was found if he did not put it there himself in 1979.
5. There were two different types of container after he died. One I still have - is a flat dark tan heavy bag about 12 x 9 with a spring like closure - what I thought to be used by a clerk to take money to a bank from a business. The other one was a small canvas bag with a handle and could be collapsed to almost nothing (had leather straps for attaching to something else...A very sturdy bag.)I mentioned these to the FBI yrs ago. Both bags would have fit inside of the briefcase behind the upper flap and would not have been seen.
6. I have asked the FBI if they had the cords that were cut - if so I have the knife that would have been use. Can't they match cut ends of cords with the knife that cut them?
That Mouse - he a back-up plan. He was not going to get caught in a trap again.
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by skyjack71 on Jan 1, 2008, 8:22 PM)
Jan 1, 2008, 8:16 PM
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By the way, the main focus of the investigation to date has been on the living, that has not worked. Over 1000 people have been looked at and not one was risen to the surface.
Well, that is the FBI for you -
I have been told by other agents that they got 1000's of death-bed confessions - alone.
So what is the truth.
It is about time that the FBI - put a STOP to the ridiculous statement about DNA ruling Duane Weber out.
Admit the chance of the contamination is strong and
that evidence was LOST.
The butts are the only conclusive evidence that can state 100% that Duane was not Cooper
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by skyjack71 on Jan 1, 2008, 8:19 PM)
Jan 1, 2008, 10:21 PM
Post #820 of 1694 (8513 views)
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After reading all of this and very interested in your posts, I am positive that you are the one and only government official who is dedicating their life to this case, Kind of like you legacy., I also see from your posts and how long it took for you to actually aknowledge Joe Weber in this thread.
This tells me that you have been exausted by her in the past before coming to this forum with your knowledge. It is then confirmed that you are exausted when she states that you did not return her phone call.
Now, I respect Jo and i think you need to lose your emotional side to this case and your previous experience with jo and look again.
For an old lady to come to a 'modern' way of life (the internet) and then to learn how to use all the 'mark-up' help such as HTML and continue to post her arguments and her beliefs in such a strong overwhellming way.... This shows me to people who are more than very dedicated to this. Jo is trying to prove that it is Duane or at least get closure that it is not and you are trying to prove who it is, however i think you are so exausted by the Duane part of the case that in your head part of you is trying to prove it is NOT duane more than trying to prove who it is. I understand that as well because i imagine that you know solid in your head that it is not. Maybe you are wrong though and need to step back and relook into what Jo is telling you.
I know nothing on this case apart from these threads but my simple conclusion is that Jo sure knows alot about this and is dedicated to this. Are the other suspects wifes as dedicated to this case as she is? Does that not put it out there that maybe keeping it simple that Duane needs to be looked at again?
Anyway, what i am trying to say is, step back, work more with Jo, it seems you two working together could go alot further with this than not working together.
Good luck, I hope you make your legacy in your department and are remembered for it. I also would like to see this case solved for all of us who are interested in it.
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Jan 1, 2008, 11:10 PM
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Re: [Ckret] 2003 post
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so why did the FBI NOT release the serial numbers to the rigging public? seems to me that it would have been a good idea to have riggers looking for the gear that cooper took out of the plane with him.
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Jan 1, 2008, 11:16 PM
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I see two areas of the discussion.
1. Was he an experienced skydiver ?
2. Was the jump survivable ?
Training -
My dad was in the Air Force in North Africa during WWII. He told me that there were so many injuries in parachute training that they quit doing it for the air crews.
His entire crew was forced to jump at night over rocky terrain in North Africa. They were so close that the co-pilot got line stretch, swung once, and hit - breaking his leg. The rest of the crew was ok.
So, a person with minor training could accomplish the same. A person with a few military jumps might think it is a good idea.
The experience question is based on the gear check.
Some jumpers aren't that sharp on gear questions.
(Some of the ex-airborne guys that post here can answer as to the level of gear knowledge that they are given.)
I have done a few jumps (like many here) out of a 727 at the convention before. 155 mph. The prop blast is kind of tough. 200 is survivable.
The factors that would concern me are the weather and the trees.
In Burma, the Brits found that getting stuck in tall trees could be fatal. Survive the jump, but be 60ft up a tree and can't get down.
The Pacific Northwest can be painfully cold when rainy.
The weather was bad. There was no way to spot or plan a pickup point. I wouldn't want to spend a few of days finding my way out of it.
The following story is only slightly related, and the person was mentally ill, but it does illustrate that good judgment isn't necessary :
Philippine Airlines Flight 812
The hijacker demanded the passengers to place their valuables in a bag before he commanded the pilot to descend and depressurize the aircraft so that he could escape by a
homemade parachute made of nylon with a curtain sash for a ripcord.
Before he was about to jump, he panicked and clung to the rear door, and a male flight attendant pushed him out of the plane.
The hijacker was wearing a ski mask and
swimming goggles
when he jumped out of the plane...
He died though.
Jan 1, 2008, 11:30 PM
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Re: [happythoughts] 2003 post
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Jumping the jet at 155mph... to be honest, it was nothing like as bad as i imagined it would be, you slow down very fast after exit.
Going on my jet jumps alone, I believe i could handle a 200mph exit, to be honest, call me stupid but i would exit at 200mph without thinking too much about it over 155mph.
However saying that, I have no idea jumping a roundie or landing in trees/forest but i wonder if i was a skydiver back in those days maybe landing in a tree every now and then with a roundie is a given and would it bother me? I dont know.
Survivable, fuckn oath it is survivable, Some of the things we here have seen people survive, this jump does not even compare.
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Jan 1, 2008, 11:58 PM
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Re: [bigway] 2003 post
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At Quincy, I did the 10-way speed competition out of the jet. It does disorient you for a moment, but our best time was 21 seconds.
They also had a high-speed pass at 175 that was more of a dare than anything. It tossed you around a little more.
That is some very rugged terrain. Trees and rocks.
A tough landing.
I think the difficulty would be hanging onto your loafers at 200mph. Walking around in 30 degree weather and rain, soaking wet without shoes, in the dark.
Going 200mph, at night with no way to spot, you couldn't get more accurate than 60 miles. I'll bet it would take 2 days minimum to get out.
So, you get out... do you walk up to a road looking like you spent 2 days in the wilderness while the FBI is plastering your pic all over the new?
You can't land next to your car and then drive away.
No cell phone or GPS.
All that said, it was 1971. Lots of VN vets with those job skills and not much else.
Jan 2, 2008, 1:21 AM
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Re: [bigway] 2003 post
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In reply to:
"I also see from your posts and how long it took for you to actually aknowledge Joe Weber in this thread."
"This tells me that you have been exausted by her in the past before coming to this forum with your knowledge. It is then confirmed that you are exausted when she states that you did not return her phone call."
" think you need to lose your emotional side to this case and your previous experience with jo and look again."
"you are so exausted by the Duane part of the case that in your head part of you is trying to prove it is NOT duane more than trying to prove who it is."
"Maybe you are wrong though and need to step back and relook into what Jo is telling you."
"what i am trying to say is, step back, work more with Jo, it seems you two working together could go alot further with this than not"
"Good luck, I hope you make your legacy in your department and are remembered for it. "
I appreciate the above post by BigWay and I want to make it clear.
I have not hounded this agent - below is the sum total of contacts to the best of my memory
First Contact: The
weekend before the FBI went public in Oct 2007
- Carr called to let me know that they were ruling Duane out and wanted me to be the first to know - yet in a recent post he claims to have know since Feb of 2007. He gives me an email address and a phone number to answer my questions.
Second Contact: I called that number
to find out if it was actually him posting on the forum
. His cell was breaking up - and he calls me back. I told him that he never answered my questions (this is also stated in our forum). He never got very far on my questions because when we got to the subject of prison finger prints - He badgered me....kept insisting that it could not be done....
nothing else matter except what he thought could not be done.
I had already stated that I did NOT feel WELL. I was having chest pain and needed get off the phone - he asked me to fax the information I had that would validate my claim.
Later in this very forum I would ask him to arrange those faxes to be done by the local office as
I did not feel comfortable giving him information he has access to
. Go back to those posts - he ignores me and he does not contact me at my home or by email with a response.
I then (12/09/07) sent him a lengthy email with an attachment or separate email of an old email that I made in Jan of 2007 regarding a item concerning N,W. airlines (since he had obviously never read it). I also need answers as to why if the FBI had known since Jan of 2007 the DNA did not match - why they waited until Oct. of 2007 to tell me - a day before going public and that
he goes on record stating I had been told in Feb of 2007 -
which is NOT TRUE
I would later send him another email (12/15/07) because he did not acknowledge information posted in the forum about (
the composite redo for Florence Shaffner which had recently surface in a manner I could compare and the other prison photo I had held for all of these yrs...?)
I sent another email (12/29/07) regarding the witness that he and other agents refused to acknowledge..in regards to the hotel registration all the way from China.
This is
the sum total of my contacts with Agent Carr.
He nor the FBI have ever acknowledge the statement I made concerning
the chain of custody regarding the evidence nor the fact that if the chain had indeed been complied with - they would know where the cigarette butts absconded to - the only valid DNA they have that could not have been compromised.
If this is hounding the FBI when I am running out of time then "Forgive Me".
Not one agent really checked Duane out.
Twelve yrs ago I asked them to let me help with the contact of a certain individual.
Why? If the FBI was coming to see you and you had something to hide or were involved - what would you do?
if it was someone you had gotten to know and trust because they knew all about it - wouldn't you be more likely to open up
...since it had been over 25 yrs at the time in question?
"That Minnie she done went and run her mouth way too much. Now what is she to do?"
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If you need more features than this you should consider using qmail-scanner. It is a perl program with many excellent features. However it places a higher load on the system. This is mostly due to using perl. The system has to envoke the perl process which is fairly large. simscan is less than 100K and uses the standard system libraries so it loads and runs much faster.
If you need more features than this you should consider using qmail-scanner. It is a perl program with many excellent features. However it places a higher load on the system. This is mostly due to using perl. The system has to envoke the perl process which is fairly large. simscan is less than 100K and uses the standard system libraries so it loads and runs much faster.
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If you are not interested in attachment blocking, just don't use '--enable-attach' configure option. Attachment blocking is disabled by default. You should then enable one antivirus scanner to scan your messages for viruses.
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simscan was written for people who need a fast and efficent way to do virus scanning or spamassassin processing or attachment blocking
If you need more features than this you should consider using qmail-scanner. It is a perl program with many excellent features. However it places a higher load on the system. This is mostly due to using perl. The system has to envoke the perl process which is fairly large. simscan is less than 100K and uses the standard system libraries so it loads and runs much faster.
Attachment Processing
To enable attachment processing in simscan use the following configure option
You also need to install ripmime to extract the mime parts of the e-mail. If you installed ripmime in a place other than /usr/local/bin/ripmime, specify it's PATH in the following configure option:
Place your list of attachments to be blocked in the /var/qmail/control/ssattach file. The list should look something like this:
.scr .pif .bat
Each time an email comes in and simscan is started by qmail-smtpd, this file is read into an array. After simscan calls ripmime to break the email MIME parts into separate files in the tmp directory /var/qmail/simscan, and then simscan will check the list of attachments against the list of file names in the email. If the attachments are set to be blocked, Simscan will remove the temporary files and tell qmail-smtpd to reject the message.
In order to make file names and attachment names case insensitive, simscan forces everything to lower case. Then it does a reverse string comparision for each file name against each attachment name. If there is a match then the email is rejected and control passes back up to qmail-smtpd for the final email rejection.
Simscan will then report to the smtp log a message similar to:
simscan: IP-of-sender pid pid-of-simscan: invalid attachment: FileName from: FromAddress to: ToAddress
If custom rejection messages are enabled then qmail-smtpd will report a failure message similar to:
Your email was rejected because it contains a bad attachment: FileName
The main advantages of using attachment blocking are:
- You can block files regardless of whether they are virus infected or not. This becomes handy when new undetectable viruses appear on the Net and start spreading through, for example, .bat .scr and .pif files. Block these extensions permanently, users never need these files. If you are not using attachment blocking, these viruses will sneak in untill your antivirus software updated its virus database.
- attachment blocking is *very* lightweight. You don't have to spawn clamdscan, it doesn't have to scan stuff; It's just simply rejected. If you have a large volume of email going through your server this can make the difference between being fine with your current hardware, or needing to buy another server.
- Its an opportunity to reduce bandwidth and employees "play time" if you block the funny .mp3, .avi, .mpeg, etc, files.
If you are not interested in attachment blocking, just don't use '--enable-attach' configure option. Attachment blocking is disabled by default. You should then enable one antivirus scanner to scan your messages for viruses.
ClamAntiVirus Processing
ClamAV processing is one of the simplist parts of simscan. The simscan configure script defaults to doing just clamav processing. If you are testing simscan for the first time you might want to start with just clamav processing. In the source code directory run just: ./configure ; make ; make install-strip. That should be enough to just enable clamav processing.
It is probably worth while to understand the steps simscan will go through at this point. After qmail-smtpd receives the email and starts handing it to simscan, the following will happen.
- A temporary working directory is created and simscan changes it's working directory there.
- The envelope (to and from addresses) are written to a file
- The email is written to another file
Clamav can break up mime encoded parts of the email and scan inside them to find viruses. Check your clamav.conf (pre 0.80 version) or your clamd.conf file to see if Clamav e-mail scanner is enabled. Look for the following section:
# Enable internal e-mail scanner. # Default: enabled #ScanMail
This is from a 0.80 installation. As you can see, email scanning is enabled by default. If you have disabled email scanning you will need ripmime processing. However, if email scanning is enabled and you're not interested in performing attachment blocking, you can save a little processing time by telling simscan to NOT run ripmime. Reconfigure your simscan with the --disable-ripmime option. Go back into your simscan source directory and run these commands:
- make distclean
- ./configure --disable-ripmime
- make
- make install-strip
If everything goes well, you will now have disabled ripmime processing and saved yourself some system load.
In any case, after the email files are written and ripmime is called or not called, simscan forks a copy of clamdscan. Using pipes, simscan will read clamdscan's output. clamdscan will run, passing the file information to your clamd daemon. Make sure your clamd process is running. clamd will scan the files in the temporary working directory and report back to clamdscan. clamdscan will then report the results which simscan reads. simscan parses the results and looks for reports of a virus.
If a virus is found then simscan removes the temporary working directory and all the files and reports a permenent failure back to qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtpd will then report the pemement error back to the sender and clean up all of the data that came in for that email. The result is the data with the virus is removed from the machine before it can cause any problems.
Optional smtp reject message
If you patch your qmail source with the smtp reject message patch from the simscan/contrib directory, and you re-configure simscan with the --enable-custom-smtp-reject option then the smtp reject message returned by qmail-smtpd will contain the name of the virus that was found.
How does this work? If simscan detects a virus it exits with a special error number: 82. simscan will also write a special reject message to file descriptor 4. If qmail-smtpd receives that return code then it will attempt to read the reject message from file descriptor 4 and report that message back to the sender. This is a pretty nifty feature. What I like about it is, if the email is being sent by a real user, as opposed to a zombie pc sending out viruses, then the real user should receive back a bounce message telling them which virus they have on their machine. I know I would like to know if my machine had a virus that was going out in my email. But then again I do not use Microsoft products..
SpamAssassin Processing
SpamAssassin section
There are four ways to use spamassassin with simscan.
Do not run spamassassin
The simplist way to use spamassassin and simscan is not to use it at all. Some sites prefer to have spamassassin run on local email delivery. vpopmail has an --enable-spamassassin option that tells vdelivermail, the local vpopmail delivery agent, to send the email through spamassassin with vpopmail user options so individual users can set their own perferences. maildrop can do this as well (I think).
By having your local delivery agent run spamc you avoid the multiple recipient problem.
Multiple Recipient Problem with Per User simscan option
You can enable the use of spamassassin's per user option with this option:
If there is a single recipient in the email then simscan adds the -u user@domain option to spamc. This tells spamassassin to look up the users preferences to over ride the system wide spamassassin preferences.
But if there is more than one recipient then which user perference should simscan set? The solution simscan uses is if there is more than one recipient and the --enable-spamc-user option is set, then it skips adding the -u user@domain option to spamc.
This problem is avoided by having your local delivery agent do the spamassassin processing.
Scan and pass through to users
You can also set simscan to pass the email through spamassassin and send the result on to qmail. This is done with two options:
--enable-spam --enable-spam-passthru
Do not use this option:
The --enable-spam-passthru option is ignored if you use:
Reject anything marked as spam
Another option is to have simscan reject email (smtp failure 500 response) when spamassassin detects anything marked as spam. Use this option
and do not use these options
--enable-spam-hits --enable-spam-passthru
With this setup, any email designated as spam with the X-Spam flag set to Yes, will be rejected at the smtp level.
Reject really bad spam and pass through anything else
Perhaps the most popular method is a mix of the others. Which is to reject email that scores very high and to pass through other email to the user even if it is marked as spam. This seems to help with the "false positive" issue; email marked as spam but not really spam. Use these options:
--enable-spam --enable-spam-hits=number where number is the spamassassin score at which you want to reject the email
Do not use this option:
Per domain processing
The per domain processing feature allows you to fine-tune scanning parameters on a per domain or per account (email address) base.
Enable this using --enable-per-domain when compiling simscan.
When this option is enabled, simscan is controlled by the simcontrol.cdb file, usually stored in /var/qmail/control. This file can be built, using simscanmk, from /var/qmail/control/simcontrol
Here is an example simcontrol file:
firstname.lastname@example.com:clam=yes,spam=no,attach=.txt:.com example.com:clam=no,spam=yes,attach=.mp3 :clam=yes,spam=yes,trophie=yes,spam_hits=20.1
The options that are available (in version 1.1) are:
clam=(yes|no) spam=(yes|no) trophie=(yes|no)
The clam, spam, and trophie options toggle whether or not to use those scanners for scanning - the binaries must have been available and their locations must have been configured when simscan was compiled.
Processing order of options
The order of precedence is:
email address (overrides all) domain (overrides default) default (only used if not overridden by domain or email address.
First the sender address will be looked up and then the recipients. Without any matches, no scans will be done.
Then run /var/qmail/bin/simscanmk to build the simcontrol.cdb file. You can rebuild this files at any time. The simscanmk program can safely update the cdb files while the system is running.
Qmail extensions are handled like this: the address is broken up into its parts and each one is looked up. For example, email@example.com looks up:
firstname.lastname@example.com email@example.com firstname.lastname@example.com
regex matching
To enable regex matching you have to configure simscan using --enable-regex. You can have only one regular expression per "perdomain" match line. You can however seperate multiple regexes using a semicolon (:).
If you want to match on a semicolon you have to use \072 or \x3a in the regex.
The regex engine is libpcre, so refer to the pcre documentation for the patterns. Basically it takes perl regexes.
The regex option tries to match every line of the mail with all the regular expressions. If it matches, it refuses the mail. If you enabled the custom reject option, it tells you the regex number it matched.
A single regex can be 500 chars at most, and you can have 100 regexes per run applied.
- Creates three regexes to match against
- (?i)^\+\-\+\-\+.*Service
- (?i)^\*-\*-\*.*Virus
- (?i)^\*\-\*\-\*.*Service
- The (?i) at the beginning of the regex makes the regex a case insensitive match
- If one of these three regexes matches against any line of the mail, the mail is refused
- This regex was created to block some sober variant cheaper (system resource wise) than with a virus scanner.
attachment blocking
The attach option is for banning specific attachment types, and is only available if --enable-attach was used at compile-time. The string must be a colon-separated list of extensions, like in the first line of the example above.
refusing spam
The spam_hits option changes the threshold spamassassin spam value. If a mail gets a spam score that number or above, it is rejected, otherwise it is accepted.
The spam_passthru option is equivalent to the --enable-spam-passthru configure option.
IMPORTANT: if you use the --enable-per-domain option, the --enable-spam-passthru option is IGNORED. You MUST add spam_passthru=yes to any and all domains you wish to use it with.
Drop Message option
Some sites have security policies in place which require them to accept every email. For these sites there is an option to do all the normal simscan processing, but if a virus or spam is detected the message is not handed to qmail-queue for local delivery. Instead it is silently dropped.
Use this option when configuring simscan
Custom Reject Option
This option has to be used with the custom reject message patch to qmail-smtpd. The patch is available in the simscan tar ball contrib directory.


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text: Korean Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - Great read on Bananada ... Speak Korean Now! Korean Job Discussion Forums"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!" FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in Great read on Bananada ... Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum View previous topic :: View next topic Author Message gmatJoined: 29 Jan 2003 Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:14 am Post subject: Great read on Bananada ... Everybody Does It Is this it? The moment when the one-party state's internal organs crumble to nothing like an old rou' in the final stages of syphilis? Well, I wish I were that confident. No doubt, as before, Stephen Harper will be running as Boy George: the calmer calmer calmer calmer calmer chameleon. Last time round, to offset the perennial Liberal-media message that all conservatives are by definition extremist rabid fundamentalist nutcakes--and worse, extremist rabid fundamentalist "U.S.-style" nutcakes, Mr. Harper was measured, moderate, soft-spoken and narcolepsy-inducing and, when the sky-is-falling types still shrieked that he was planning to introduce "U.S.-style" health care, "U.S.-style" warmongering, "U.S.-style" non-confiscatory taxation, etc, the rabid leopard changed his spots and all but insisted that a vote for the Tories was a vote for no change whatsoever. Whether the calmer-chameleon approach will prove any more effective this time round is doubtful. Let's start with that self-proclaimed colossus of the political scene, Warren Kinsella. The other day on his website, he teased: "You want greed? You want corruption? You want kick-backs and toll-gating and all that?"--and then linked to . . . Stevie Cameron on what Brian Mulroney was allegedly up to in 1989, or 1953, or 1867 or whenever it was. Warren was missing the point. Those of us who are outraged by Gomery Canada don't want an opportunity to get our own sweaty fingers in the sewer. Honestly. Cross my heart and strike me down with one of those memory-disabling afflictions half the Gomery witnesses have been hit with. (Fortunately they made enough out of the sponsorship program to afford the Mayo Clinic rather than the Royal Vic.) We Gomery obsessives don't want just to change to a different set of corrupt officials. If it hadn't been stinkingly corrupt, the "sponsorship" program would have been merely worthless, and I'd rather keep the money and spend it for myself, my own humble business ventures at least having the merit of being self-supporting unlike the swollen ranks of "advertising agencies" and "graphics designers" and "marketing consultancies" with which the province of Quebec is so abundantly endowed, despite the noticeable lack of real businesses to market or advertise or design for. On the other hand, Warren Kinsella does nicely distil what passes for sophisticated thinking in the political establishment: everybody does it, as Bill Clinton's defenders used to say, and, to judge from the call-in shows I've heard, far too many Canadians are saying today. One day, years from now, these supposed sophists and cynics who can't wait to dial their local radio host so they can shrug insouciantly "Everybody does it" will realize that if anyone in this wretched tale cuts a more pitiful figure than Jean Brault publicly sobbing or Jacques Corriveau claiming that he doesn't remember any of the salient points because he stood next to a fellow with Alzheimer's, if anyone's more pitiful it's them--the "everyone does it" crowd. If you're stopped in the street by a CBC reporter and you tell him, "Oh, everyone does it. That's politics. What's the big deal?", you're not being worldly and cynical, you're being played like a violin by the Liberal party fiddlers. In the diseased Dominion, our rulers are so cynical they're cynical about cynicism: they understand that once a political culture reaches a certain point of decay a large segment of the population is content to take refuge in the pose of cynicism. How do you get to that point? By going the Kinsella route: Warren evidently feels that two wrongs do make a right. And, politically speaking, he's not wrong. Corruption feeds off its victories. If you've got some nickel'n'dime racket going and it makes the papers and there's a bit of huffing and puffing but in the end nothing happens, then, reasonably enough, you'll conclude that having crossed that line you might as well see where the new line's been drawn. Ten grand? A hundred thousand? A multimillion-dollar boondoggle? And every time you get away with it you lower public resistance and increase the chances you'll get away with the next scam. That's what the Liberals have done to Canada's political culture, which is why you run into large numbers of Canadians who are entirely indifferent to Gomery and equally large numbers who think it the height of sophistication to sneer knowingly that "everyone does it." There's no one quite so naive as a faux cynic who can't wait to fall in line with the herd of iconoclasts parroting the "everybody does it" line: it's the intellectual equivalent of those teenagers who express their individuality by wearing exactly the same clothes as everyone else--like Warren Kinsella in his Ramone-groupie days. The sponsorship racket is Canada's Oil-for-Food scandal. Indeed, they functioned in remarkably similar ways. But, in fairness to Saddam, he's a psychotic dictator from a ruthless blood-soaked basket case of a state. What's Canada's excuse? Well, the same excuse as always: "national unity." "National unity" was the Liberals' justification for Adscam and Flagscam and all the rest in the first place. Now they're threatening to run as the "national unity" party against those rabid extreme "U.S.-style" conservatives. If so, it's important to remember what "national unity" actually boils down to: it means Quebec federalists and Quebec separatists bribing each other with money raised in the rest of the country. In the sense that Quebecers of all persuasions are united in their determination to milk the nation, the "national unity" strategy worked. Jean Brault himself is a splendid example of "national unity" in action: he received money from the federal government to promote national unity and used it both to make illegal donations to the P'quistes through his workers and buy tables at Liberal fundraisers, where he papered the room with his separatist employees who got a free meal in exchange for cheering M. Chr'tien. Can't get much more "national unity" than that, can you? Are you or any of your neighbours so wealthy you can afford to give Jacques Corriveau's personal bank account $5 million for doing nothing? Yes, yes, I know technically M. Brault gave M. Corriveau the five mil or maybe M. Corriveau gave it to M. Brault or maybe they both gave it to each other simultaneously. But in the end you paid for it. And you got zip in return. M. Corriveau claims not to be able to remember anything now, and nor does Mr. Martin. What did they not know and when did they not know it? Gilles-Andr' Gosselin billed the government--i.e., you--for 11 hours work a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year for the whole of 1997, which works out at an awful lot of "national unity" but apparently not enough to warrant any photocopies or memos in triplicate or anything else which might suggest what he'd done for all that dough. These fed-sep Quebec grandees may be suffering a little public embarrassment at the moment, but in the elite golf clubs and swanky restaurants life goes on and I'll bet no-one's cutting 'em dead. If the Liberals are re-elected, these chaps will still be part of the circle. Canadians cannot afford this lavish scale of "national unity." Indeed, we need a lot more national disunity--real alternative visions competing for public favour, not just the phony-baloney choice offered in Quebec, between "federalists" and "separatists" who are in full agreement on everything. That being so, what bothers me is why the polls aren't worse for the Liberals. What do they have to do for the average apathetic not-especially-political anglo-Canadian to let go? The minute an election's declared, the CBC and the Toronto Star will come on side and we'll stop getting features on Adscam and start getting in-depth investigations on Tory plans to bring back back-street abortions and mandatory readings of Leviticus in gay bathhouses. And then some of those wobbly Liberal voters will wander home, in Ontario's riding-rich 905-belt, in Quebec's West Island, in the Maritimes, where Messrs Brault and co. might well be seen as simply beneficiaries of mega-pogey. If it was a question of renewing the party's intellectual energy, a spell in opposition would do the Liberals good. But, if you're used to millions of dollars for doing nothing, you don't look on it that way. The Grits will be playing to win, and playing hard. And, if they do win, life in Quebec will go on and the next scandal will involve billions and even more people will shrug, "Everybody does it." No, they don't. And, if the ones who do do it keep on doing it, they'll cost us our country. M Steyn - May 16 Back to top mithridatesJoined: 03 Mar 2003Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:09 am Post subject: Quote: The minute an election's declared, the CBC and the Toronto Star will come on side and we'll stop getting features on Adscam and start getting in-depth investigations on Tory plans to bring back back-street abortions and mandatory readings of Leviticus in gay bathhouses. Back to top gmatJoined: 29 Jan 2003 Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: Yes Mith, that one had me laughing too. Love or hate him, Mr. Steyn can write. Back to top mithridatesJoined: 03 Mar 2003Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: Actually, it looks as if it's already started: Quote: Was it Laureen who finally made her husband go to his room for a time-out? If so, where was she a week ago? The politics of rage has backfired in Stephen Harper's face, and he's going to pay an awful price. However disgusted people may be with the Liberals, they're not going to forget that the alternative is a snarling, mean-eyed pit bull. It's okay to be angry at the Liberals. Who isn't? But it's not okay for the guy who wants to replace them to have such an obvious anger-management issue. It's not okay for him to hold his breath and turn blue unless he gets his way this very second. And it's really not okay to act as if he, personally, wants to tear Paul Martin's throat out. No matter how deeply Mr. Harper may despise him, it is not okay to accuse Paul Martin of playing politics with cancer victims (even if it might true). It's not okay to claim the Liberal government has no legitimacy (when it clearly does), or to unilaterally declare a no-confidence vote on dubious grounds, or claim we're in a constitutional crisis when we aren't, or smear the entire Liberal Party and everybody in it as "morally reprehensible" and "corrupt" (even though some of them are). Sure, Canadians are cheesed off. We're in a cranky, vengeful mood. But we don't want a killer dog for prime minister. Yesterday, Mr. Harper ditched the pit-bull routine and did his best to morph into a cocker spaniel. "There do have to be limits to how far we go," he said, as if somebody else had unleashed the attack dogs in the first place. Wisely conceding that the vast majority of the public doesn't care whether a confidence vote comes right this minute or next week, he promised to stop holding his breath and turning blue over it. Mercifully, he even withdrew the cancer card. Concerned citizens will now be spared the bizarre spectacle of sick men forcing themselves to crawl to Ottawa to defend their party's honour. "I have done some reflecting this week on what's gone on," Mr. Harper said, in an effort to undo the damage. "My father used to tell me, 'Be careful when you fight a monster lest you yourself become a monster.' " The best thing for Mr. Harper would be a Liberal win next week and an election some time far in the distant future. Far enough for people to forget the monster. Stephen Harper's worst political liability isn't that he's cerebral (Pierre Trudeau was cerebral, too), his inability to project himself as Everyman (ditto), or even his lack of bonhomie (Mr. Trudeau didn't much like glad-handing and kissing babies either). It's his unrelenting negativity. We all know what he's against. But we have no idea what he's for. Mr. Trudeau, like all successful politicians, was able to project optimism and hope. He was able to make us think, for a time, that we belonged to the greatest little nation in the world. Mr. Harper just projects fed up. "People aren't looking for great men and women," says political pollster Allan Gregg. "They're looking for good ones." This being Canada, we're also looking for nice ones. We admire niceness. We think niceness is our defining national trait, and so it's no surprise we want our leaders to be nice, too. Paul Martin may have many flaws. He may be second-rate, ineffectual, even opportunistic and untruthful -- but deep down inside, we think he's nice. Mr. Harper is no dummy. Lately he's been working furiously to project his inner nice guy. He's been trying to out-fingerpaint Mr. Martin at friendly kindergartens. He's been snatching babies from their mothers' arms to plant kisses on them. This is, in my view, a waste of time, because people don't believe it. What's more amazing is the radical makeover he has performed on his party platform. Although most people haven't noticed, he has scrubbed it clean of any trace of unpleasant right-wing residue. My girlfriends here in latte-land don't believe me when I tell them that the Tories' platform is now almost identical to the Liberals'. You can look it up. Forget that scary Bible-thumping stuff. Today, Mr. Harper appears to stand for most of the things that Liberals stand for. He has endorsed a form of national child care, the goals of Kyoto, bilingualism, immigration and the Canada Health Act. By saying he'd bring no law forward to change the existing law, he implicitly accepts Canada's current approach to abortion, which is to have no law at all. He endorses legal same-sex unions. In other words, on social issues he's positioned himself somewhere to the left of Bill Clinton and John Kerry. Mr. Harper has worked hard to make us forget about those angry old white guys who used to make us so allergic. He's tried to lock them in a box and throw away the key. He has replaced them with attractive, camera-ready young ethnics like Rahim Jaffer and smart women like Diane Ablonczy, Rona Ambrose, Diane Finley and Bev Oda (to say nothing of the beauteous Belinda). He's got as much or more female firepower than the Liberals. And if he's got a hidden agenda, I can't detect it. So far as I can tell, his agenda is out in plain sight. His agenda is to get elected. Stephen Harper, in fact, has done everything right. He has united the party and taken it to the centre, which is the only way it can possibly win. His opponents are exhausted, scandal-ridden, badly led, deeply unpopular, and on the ropes. This should be a slam dunk. But there's one problem he hasn't licked. He hasn't gotten rid of the angry white man who leads his party. And that man is going to beat him. [email protected] Reminiscent of most other editorials during the last election campaign: "sure the Conservatives are ahead in popularity, but you're not actually going to vote for them, are you?" Parts in bold were my doing. Not everybody wants to read a whole article. 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Curiosity completed a drive of 100 feet (30.5 meters) during the mission's Sol 29, on Sept. 4, 2012, traveling southeastward with a dogleg move partway through the drive to skirt some sand. This was the mission's longest drive so far and brought total driving distance to 358 feet (109 meters).
A Navigation Camera image with a wheel track from the Sol 29 drive is in the mission's collection of raw images, at http://1.usa.gov/OWxGIT .
Curiosity continues to work in good health. Sol 29, in Mars local mean solar time at Gale Crater, ended at 2:37 a.m. Sept. 5, PDT.
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Olive Garden will open its newest restaurant at 1266 Fording Island Road in Bluffton at 4 p.m. Monday - creating 165 jobs.
The 7,441 square-foot restaurant can host up to 246 guests and features a design inspired by traditional farmhouses found in Tuscany, Italy. Olive Garden design teams traveled to Italy to work with Italian architects Fabio and Lucia Zingarelli and the result is a restaurant design that recreates the warmth and simple beauty of a Tuscan farmhouse.
The restaurant also will feature a number of sustainable design elements, including recycled building materials, enlarged windows to increase natural light, low-water landscaping and energy-efficient equipment. These enhancements are part of the Sustainable Restaurant Design initiative launched by Darden Restaurants, Olive Garden's parent company.
Olive Garden is accepting applications for employment. To be considered for an interview, apply online at www.OliveGarden.com/Careers.


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Rev your engine and joyride your way to Biker Burger in Freeport.
Though the name and menu may be biker themed, you don't have to be a Hog enthusiast to enjoy the one-of-a-kind sandwiches at the family owned, counter service joint.
"It's a restaurant for everybody, kids ... grandmas. Everybody," said owner and operator Joel Gutierrez. "We give everybody the opportunity to feel like a biker."
It wasn't until last summer that Freeport diners got that opportunity. The store in Freeport opened July 28, 2012, as an expansion of the original Biker Burger which has been serving Fort Walton Beach from Beal Parkway in Fort Walton Beach since April 2008.
Gutierrez works to keep his offerings unique and with something for everyone, bikers or otherwise.
"Like our slogan says, 'Like nothing else.' We do everything differently," said Gutierrez.
And the owner proves that with a unique menu that features 19 different sandwiches, all served on hamburger buns.
"It's a very unique concept," said Gutierrez, who came up with the idea for each of the inspired sandwiches.
On the menu is everything from the "Scooter" with a single beef patty and American cheese to the "Dirt Bike" with chorizo sausage on a beef patty topped with mozzarella, the "Jet Ski" made of salmon and mozzarella to the "Classic Bike," a 6 oz. Sirloin on a bun.
To satisfy the hungriest of motorcycle enthusiasts, the restaurant offers the "Trike" made of three hamburger patties, equaling about 1.5 pounds of beef. Finishing it, though, can pose a challenge.
"I've only had two or three customers finish it all," said Gutierrez, using two hands to describe its gargantuan height.
For the more exotic eaters, try the "Super Bike" or the "ATV Amphibious," made of bison meat and gator meat, respectively.
"We try to have a little bit for everybody," said Gutierrez.
And that include salads for the lighter eaters and Tool Box meals for kids, which offer brake pads (chicken nuggets), a scooter (a small burger) or spokes (cheese sticks).
Also offered are an assortment of fuels (Pepsi products and tea) or anti-freeze (coffee), tires (onion rings), ball bearings (battered mushrooms) and spark plugs (fries).
Within the next month, Biker Burger will also be starting to serve up milkshakes.
Gutierrez runs the business with the help of his wife, daughters, and mother.
The store's location is perfect for those bikers who often trek east to Panama City using Highway 20, which becomes a high-traffic motorcycle thoroughfare when the weather is right.
"We use this road a lot," said Gutierrez, who has been riding since the age of 8 when his dad bought him a Suzuki ATV.
He has since upgraded to a Yamaha Venture and instead of riding around the neighborhood, Gutierrez will take his bike "300 miles to go get a meal."
Now, ever since Biker Burger moved into the neighborhood, Freeport residents don't have to go nearly that far to get a tasty, satisfying meal.
"It's something new for Freeport," he said. "We try to bring the people something different."
Stop in to try Biker Burger at its Freeport location at 172 State Highway 20. Folks on bikes and members of the military receive a 10 percent discount all day, every day.
For more information, call 835-1032, visit TheBikerBurger.com or "Like" Biker Burger on Facebook.


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Online Registration For 2011 Melges 24 Worlds Now Open - Corpus Christi Prepares To Welcome Teams From Across The Globe
28 October 2010
28 October 2010 - Corpus Christi, TX, USA - Online registration for the 2011 Melges 24 World Championship being hosted by Corpus Christi Yacht Club, Corpus Christi, Texas from May 11-21, is now open via the Event Website. Famed for its great sunshine and strong winds Corpus Christi is the perfect Melges 24 sailing venue and the fleet is looking forward to a big turnout for this it's 14th World Championship, including entries from across North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.
In the build up to the World Championship the United States Melges 24 Class Association is planning a series of events under the "Road To Corpus" banner. The series comprises:-
Key West Race Week - January 17-21 - Key West, Florida
Miami Winter Regatta - February 12-13 - Coconut Grove SC, Miami, Florida
Bacardi Miami Sailing Week - March 10-12 - Miami, Florida
Charleston Race Week - April 14-17 - Charleston, South Carolina
2011 Melges 24 World Championship - May 11-21 - Corpus Christi YC, Texas
In addition Sail 22 will be running two tuning events in the run up to the Worlds, the first in Miami on February 10-11 and the second on Corpus Christi on April 30- May 1. Further details about the Road To Corpus events can be found at www.usmelges24.com.
The official hotel partner for the 2010 Melges 24 World Championship is the Omni Corpus Christi Hotel Marina Tower located just along the coast from the regatta center and only 15 minutes from the airport. With services including two swimming pools, three restaurants, bike rentals, an in house massage therapist and a sensational kids program this is the perfect base for your stay. Competitors are offered special discounted rates for bookings made prior to 20th April 2011 on a first come first served basis and are recommended to book early to avoid disappointment.
Additional information about visiting Corpus Christi including alternative accommodation options can be found at www.visitcorpuschristitx.org
Overseas competitors requiring shipping assistance should contact Official Shipping and Logistics Partner Valls Group. With offices in Houston and Corpus Christi Valls Group is a leading provider of international trade and shipping services and can assist with all logistical needs.
You can keep up with all the latest news and developments from the 2011 Melges 24 World Championship and the Road To Corpus events via the Road To Corpus Facebook Page and the Event Web Site.
The 2011 Melges 24 World Championship is sponsored by:-
Melges USA
Sail 22
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US Sailing Regatta Network
Corpus Christi Marina
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For further information please contact IMCA Administrator & Media Coordinator Fiona Brown on E-mal email@example.com, Tel +44 7711 718470, Skype fpbrown,
Visit the Official Event Website of the 2011 Melges 24 World Championship
The Melges 24 is designed by Reichel Pugh and considered the most unique one design sportsboat in the world as well as one of the fastest-growing classes of high performance yachts. For more information please visit the official websites of the International Melges 24 Class Association and the United States Melges 24 Class Association.


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Fans need to take notice of Lamar women's basketball
Fans in general, but especially here in Southeast Texas, always complain about the lack of winning – otherwise known as losing. The Lamar women's basketball team was one of the worst women's team in any division until Larry Tidwell was hired. I've given Billy Tubbs a hard time over the years in this column, but Tubbs hit a home run by hiring Tidwell.
It's been a while since I've written a column about the Lamar Lady Cardinal basketball program. I think the last time was several years ago when I mentioned that Tidwell should become the university's new athletic director, which he eventually did.
Now in his sixth season as a head coach, the nearly 40-year veteran of basketball has yet another great team on the court. He has an eye for talent. Despite Lamar being his only collegiate head coaching job, he's recruited and helped coach some of the best at Baylor and TCU.
He's helped recruit and coach the likes of Laura Webb, who started her career at Lamar then transferred to Baylor, where Tidwell was an assistant. "She would bring it every day, whether it was practice or a game," Tidwell said. "Each season, she was one of the leading scorers in the country."
While at TCU, he coached Sandora Irvin, the niece of former Dallas Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin. All she did was earn All-American status and become the third overall player taken in the 2005 WNBA Draft.
Tidwell could also tell you about Adrianne Ross, who was honorable mention All-American at TCU; Iceland's Helena Sverrisdottir, a 6-foot-1 guard who was the Mountain West Conference Player of the Year twice (Tidwell missed out on her by coming to Lamar); and Kacy Moffitt, a 6-foot-4 post player who played professionally in Europe.
But in his six years in Beaumont, Tidwell has also provided the university and its fans with some great talent to watch. First came Tamara Abalde, who left Lamar early to play for Spain in the 2008 Summer Olympics, then went on to sign a professional contract in the prestigious European League. Then came guard Jenna Plumely, who could shoot from all over the court and helped lead the team to the NCAA Tournament.
And now? There's senior Kalis Loyd. The 6-foot-2 Sweden national has scored 1,671 points, which is just 59 shy of Uirannah Jackson's school record of 1,730. "She is the total package," said Tidwell, who earlier this season became LU's all-time winningest coach and currently has a 116-59 record headlining into the Jan. 10 matchup with Sam Houston State at 5:30 p.m.
"I was recruiting her while I was at TCU," said Tidwell. "I knew about her through a former Lamar player who was coaching international basketball. When I came to Lamar, TCU didn't follow up on her and I did. I went to Sweden, got to know her parents and signed her. She can play many positions on the court, plus her three-point shooting has improved. Kalis is a pure competitor. Not only is she on track to break the scoring record, but she can break 2,000 points. She is in the all-time Top 10 in major records here at Lamar. She will get some professional looks, and people are going to want to sign her — Kalis is the real deal."
Despite losing great players each year, Tidwell and this program seem to reload. They are 10-3 overall, 3-0 in the Southland Conference and they just flat out know how to recruit and coach. "We worked hard at Lamar," he said. "We go get kids who are players, but also ones that have character."
A youngster who should have a bright future at Lamar is true freshman guard Asia Booker, who played her high school ball at Beaumont Ozen. Her mother, Ramona Locke, holds Lamar's career record for assists (653) and steals (333). "In 38 years, she's the fastest player I've ever coach," added Tidwell.
Though the records speak for themselves on the court year in and out, Tidwell has also restored pride back in the women's program. Right outside of his office in the Montagne Center, the head coach as a complete 44-year-history of the Lady Cardinal program. He's created a Wall of Excellence, which honors community service, leadership, academics and basketball honors for present-day players. To honor former players, a Graduation Wall, an academic all-conference recognition display, an all-conference basketball display, and honor teams display is currently on the drawing board for the lower concourse area. Likewise, a Top 25 Club that honors outstanding boosters and supporters has already been established on the lower concourse.
"We've raised nearly $1 million for the women's basketball program," said Tidwell. "Since I've been here, we've been out in the community more than 370 times. We've had 34 players on the Southland Conference Commissioner's Honor Roll, and 14 players were on the conference all-academic team."
Tidwell has finally put the finishing touches on the first ever women's basketball reunion for Feb. 15-16.
"I am trying to do everything I can to inject even more pride into our program," Tidwell said. "I want everybody to come back and be honored. I want to make it a special occasion because they are special. They are Lady Cardinals." Tidwell also spoke highly of current athletic director Jason Henderson, who he said is behind the reunion 100 percent.
Despite several league championship banners hanging in the Montagne Center, it's time for the first Lady Cardinal to have a jersey retired. I don't know whose, but there are plenty of good ones. Not only would it be the right thing to do, but it would also mean a lot to the man who restored a basketball program that was the laughing stock of the conference.
"Many thought I was crazy for leaving TCU and coming to Lamar," stated Tidwell. "I knew my window was closing to be a head coach. I had people that believed in me, and one was Billy Tubbs, who I knew previously at TCU and of course, Dr. Jimmy Simmons. The (Lamar) program hadn't had a winning season in 13 years, but it wasn't depleted. I love this conference. We have some great rivalries."
But how did Tidwell manage to turn the program around so quickly when several others failed?
"I have said this a thousand times — I haven't scored a point, grabbed a rebound or made a steal," said Tidwell. "It's all about the players. Plus stability, and I've had a great support staff. I lost a good assistant in Joey Wells last year, but I was able to replace him with a former Division I head coach in John Ishee. That says a lot about this program. We also have television and radio shows, and that's hard to find in the SLC."
It's time for Southeast Texans to reenergize themselves and go see a Lamar women's basketball game. Tidwell has poured blood, sweat and tears into this program, and what better way to reward not only him but also the hard working ladies who have helped this team become and exciting winning commodity.
Again, their next home game is tonight against Sam Houston State at 5:30 p.m. No excuses.


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Habitable Planet, The "Human Population Dynamics" The human population of our planet now exceeds 6.5 billion and is rising. Much of this growth is projected for the most environmentally fragile regions of the world. Will studying the history of the world's population growth help predict the Earth's "carrying capacity"?. D
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Habitable Planet, The "Risk, Exposure, and Health" We all require food, air, and water to survive - which are contaminated to some extent by man-made pollutants. Two studies, one in a rural western mining town and another in a dense urban population, reveal how these exposures impact health, and what can be done to reduce the risks.G