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A Killzone Shadow Fall developer named Phil, when asked about how much this game is using in terms of memory whether it was 2.2 GB or not, he answered:
" Less than that.Most kits until pretty recently had only 1.5 GB usable for graphics. "
If this is true... Dear god...
Another 6.5GB to go :D
It's only going to get better
Not really impressive...thats expected. Launch games are never supposed to come even close to maxing out a console. If anything, its a relief that better things are to come.
Keep in mind that even with those 1.5 GB, most of it is used for the unoptimized OS. So the game at its current state is even using less video memory and displays such graphics. Imagine what happens next, when you know a month is enoughbto make a Killzone game look way better.
This is exactly why I'm hyped for next gen and was very impressed with the reveal. If games look this GOOD NOW, then damn, I can't wait to see when devs REALLY start to push and max out consoles.
so killzone shadow fall looks better than crysis 3 on ultra while barely using much of its ram in the ps4. i have three video cards with 3072 mb of ram on all three and my pc is quite powerful running crysis 3 on ulta but ps4 with killzone shadow fall exceeds it looking better while barely using a lot of power on ps4.
ps4 is the best gaming system ever and ive never touched it. i cant wait to own one.
im buying a ps4 day one
Even Mark Rein himself explained that the Unreal Engine 4 demo on PS4 was rushed an unoptmized and using not final hardware: http://beyond3d.com/showpos...
Future can only look brighter for the PS4 !
Do you even have a gaming PC?
Because yes it looks good, but Crysis 3 on PC ultra settings is still better. Though, you'll need a graphics card that's around $300 to run it.
For the reasons of that high cost of entry, consoles can never be on par with PC. Consoles are supposed to be cheap/convenient alternatives.
That's not in any way a bad thing. In fact it's quite the opposite. But don't try to tell yourself it's as good as a high end PC.
Well... not exactly.
There is a the OS to consider, but then there is also the fact that the PS4 will be capable of recording video while you play.
If you have any experience with video capture/encoding, you should know that is extremely CPU/RAM intensive, in fact I'd go out on a limb and guess that at least 1gb of ram goes to the os, and at least 3gb is devoted to video capture.
That said, 4gb is a huge amount of memory to have left over. I like to run a performance moniter on the screen on my keyboard from time to time when I play PC games, and the most I have ever seen used by a game was about 1.5gb
People who say this looks better than crysis3 on ultra are smoking crack. or their only experience with it is from a youtube video (meaning they havent actually seen anything cause yt specializes in taking detail and trashing it)
i love that no one realizes that most of that video is either static or scripted.
crysis 3 is fucking jam packed full of dynamic simulations even the water reflects indirect lighting on the environment when you step in it.
I mean yeah it looks killer, but lets not step on the toes of c3 its just in another league at this point. if you know me around here you should know i just dont shout out stupid crap and im not doing so now technically this has nothing on c3 and until you can prove otherwise with a long ass list of facts then dont even talk bro.
c3 will be the benchmark for the best for years to come, and another generation of blind fanboys are being born as we speak.
I swear to god sometimes. >_<
@plastica man, dev kits arent really using the os at the moment. the os doesnt get to devs until shortly before launch. everything is by proxy at the moment meaning they are implementing all the features, but they dont actually have the os, therefore it cannot be unoptimized cause it doesnt exist yet. it is still in development. :)
"Before you ask, there is no link, I am the link."
That dude got shut down! xD The level of enthusiasm devs are showing for the PS4 is encouraging and also reassures me that well get the very best possible version of their game for our system.
Oh snap, I thought Mark was just a dev, he's actually the VP of Epic. O.O lol
Since when does 1 game determine how high of quality is your PC? Truth of the matter is from people like Shokio to just general people and me included I think killzone shadow fall looks better than crysis 3 on ultra.
@Dylia, there is no way you're running Crysis3 @ Ultra with a $300.00 card. Not if you're expecting the "PC fav" 60fps.
@Autodidactdystopia, Crysis3 isn't complete sandbox like the origianl Crysis. It's more of a mixture between Crysis and Linear Crysis2.
Killzone: SF(alpha code) clearly can be put of there with Crysis3(retail code). Killzone is not there yet but given the talent that Guerilla has, I'm sure this is only a tip of the iceberg.
@Plastica-man If you had decided to do some research, you would of known that MikeR is not Mark Rein, meaning Epic hasn't confirmed anything.
Evidence: http://beyond3d.com/showpos...
"No I'm not Mark - nor a Epic developer."
@Disagrees What more evidence could you want?
What you just proposed is a system that uses 1 GB of RAM for OS functions and 3 GB for recording, on a system that only a month ago had 4 GB of RAM total. You might want to rethink your math on that one; and maybe learn a little about the PS4 architecture to see why you're completely wrong about everything, not just the math. (Hint: they actually addressed that very issue in the conference)
P.S. If you're having trouble figuring it out (and I'm sure you are), it rhymes with "dedicated chip." Good day, sir!
i say about 4 more. OS is part of that 8 gig. And social feature will be running in the background as well.
Alpha code never looked so damn good! I think this will be the first next-gen title that I download to my shiny brand new PS4. ^_______^
Sorry but I don't believe him. I think he's just trying to cover his azz in case things get complicate it won't involve/harm Epic.
@TheGamerDood Let me get this straight...
You think the VP of Epic games, who is essentially in the position of trying to sell an engine, would purposefully leave his engine unoptimised (and as a result potentially make it poor looking/not run very well) for "shits and giggles"?
It's not much of a rumor... the 8 gbs of ram wasn't even finalized till January. They built the demo expecting there to be 3.5 GBs total (512MB for the OS). Considering the game used some duplicate textures for the characters and what not, it's pretty obvious it wasn't using much of the ram...
Having seen the Killzone demo in full HD and having played Crysis 3 on Very High (Ultra is not a game option) at 1440p I can say that in my opinion Crysis 3 blows it out of the water.
The funny thing is 1.5GB of ram is still a lot for a game.
I find it funny when people look to ram to determine the power of a pc or gaming machine...
Encoding video doesn't require all that much RAM in comparison to editing video. I know this, I've been in the video production industry for 15 years and deal with it every day. When I'm encoding video my RAM usage is always far lower than when editing. Using a dedicated encoding app, even the most demanding encodes typically do not exceed 1GB of usage. There's no way in hell it would need 3GB's to encode a video stream. There's a dedicated processor to encode the video, and I'm willing to bet that the RAM needed for that chip to do it's thing fits nicely in the 1.5GB that the system has reserved (rumored) for it's OS.
People need to stop hating on Crysis 3. I recently just beat it and the graphics are pretty amazing.
The grass, the details, the fluidity of the water, the textures, the lighting. Everything comes together nicely.
It is what Crysis 2 should have been.
My only gripe is the short campaign.
facepalm.Vram has nothing to do with RAM except if they're shared.You mean 0,7 more to go.
Oh god console gamers are at the vram phase. Welcome to 10 years ago. I advise you now to educate yourselves as to how vram works hand in hand with the rest of the board before you speak up.
Most of these comments are pretty entertaining and shows how ignorant fanboys are.
I've seen crysis 3 on ultra btw. From a purely technical standpoint killzone sf doesn't come close. I do however enjoy the killzone universe more so take that as you will
Video quality remains unchanged. It's the framerate that is changed when uploading a video to Youtube. If you were to upload an uncommpressed video file at 60fps, it'd remain the same graphical fidelity but at 30fps.
That being said, I'd say the textures on Killzone Shadow Fall look better than a lot of the textures in Crysis 3. Texture mapping on Crysis 3 looks pretty ugly in my opinion.
Actually, it makes me wonder if we really needed 8GBs of RAM then. More RAM in those cases doesn't necessarily translate to better graphics.
There is only so much you can do with textures and human resources to create them. Which leads me to the next question.
Are we at the point where RAM is no longer the bottle neck, and processing power is again?
I mean RAM for the most part only enable larger worlds, further draw distance, shorter load times and so on. It is not going to increase frame rate, that is all the work of CPU and GPU with more emphasis on the latter.
Hopefully we are not overpaying for specs we do not need again that gives only minor insignificant differences.
It's not that simple, you must have computational power, to process information in memory, also it's not 6.5 gigs, memory is unified, it's both usual RAM and VRAM, can't say how much GPU can use, but definately it's not all 8GB.
This is big news, Logicwins. Most people have a assumed that at the worse devs have been using 4GB. Now they've been given 8GB you realise that we haven't seen anything yet.
E3. Naughty Dog, Grab your popcorn.
Wow. Holy crap. Now, don't get me wrong, I knew this site had a lot of Sony fans, but I didn't know so many of them would be THAT willing to through common knowledge out of the window.
Crysis 3, as much as I despise the damn game, is still THE best looking game on the market. The fact that some of the highest-end computers can only run it at around 30 frames maxed out certainly attributes to that fact. The textures, models, and advanced DX11 effects are just mindbogglingly detailed.
And I watched the Killzone: Shadow Fall gameplay. I liked how the game looked. Granted, you could tell it wasn't running at a consistent 30 frames, but that's something that will most assuredly be resolved before release.
Regardless, the point I'm making is that I have not only the proof of, recently, Crysis 3 to back up that this console game doesn't look as good as a PC game... I have common sense, too. I still can't understand how people can't get this through their damn heads: No console game in the past, now, or in the future will EVER look as good as whatever is looking good on the PC front. It's just not possible because PC hardware will always be more advanced. These are facts.
Ok people...just stop..disagreeing with these comments, your just being stupid now.. Get over yourselfs, dagon, your making us gamers who arent douchebags look bad to the general public.
And you get mad when the news starts talking negativly about videogamers, they start with the same people that disagree over comments like "another 6.5gb it will only get better". That's simple math guys come on..
are you serious?
no it doesnt. it absolutely doesnt. (keep your quality of upload.)
youtube compresses a video no matter the quality you upload at. you really dont know what you are talking about here so i would go do some reasearch.
major research.
The RAM is Unified RAM meaning it is shared between the CPU and GPU. So the GPU has less than 6.5 more to play with, the CPU needs some. Still impressive though!
The only thing that is shocking is how much people are freaking out about this... a low RAM consumption is to be expected from such an early demo.
I find it hilarious that people are freaking out over the 1.5 GB comment, they'll believe anything that devs say. It's like telling kids Santa Claus is coming.
Apparently everyone here are experts on how vRAM works. I'll admit, I'm not an expert on this stuff but I know damn well that it doesn't work like that, you cannot just simply say that KZ will improve drastically because there's 6.5GB to spare. There's more to it than this.
As for as I know in gaming, more vRAM allows for a higher screen resolution and texture resolution, maybe more. However, most of us don't even know how developers are using the PS4 or how it's designed.
Again, I'm sorry, but you can't throw 6.5GB for just KZ and call it a day. You guys get hyped up for the wrong reasons, just like when a new iphone comes out.
First let me get one thing out of the way. Even if some of us prefer consoles that doesn't mean we are complete dumbos. Some of us work actually in the field and have a quite mature understanding of computer architecture - not just PCs. Before another vulcan erupts here ;)
So, with that said, there is one general rule in computing and that is: Do not move memory.
So, with that said, does more memory increase performance? Most likely not. But it depends how you see things.
Smaller footprint of memory needs you to come up with tricks to use that memory more efficiently; but sometimes you have no choice but using that memory as a buffer only. You will have to re-use as much as you can and sometimes you would re-fill it with things you need and get rid of parts you don't.
Every time you do that you have to move memory. And usually you have to squeeze this through some bottle neck; down to the level where you would have to load things from a drive (HDD or BD/DVD). A GPU can only work in its dedicated vmem (it can fetch data usually per DMA from somewhere else, but this is a different chapter).
So, no, it doesn't make the CPUs faster, but you might have sufficient memory to instead of worrying to swap parts and allocate "compute resources" (new buzzword) you could use that to render things. So, yes, more memory gives you more flexibility and the chance to use the resources where you actually need them.
@ Ju
I'm in no way stating everyone in this site are dumb. From what I can tell you certainly do have a solid understanding of computer architecture, but this is not the issue.
What annoys me is that a lot people on this site (and others) don't bother to educate themselves on the subject and instead spout complete nonsense. These people just want to hype the PS4, but they do it the wrong way.
Journalism is also partly to blame because those so called "Journalists" create misleading titles and misleading information. All the while they continue to feed this info to gullible people so that they can spread the word.
It's just too bad that people rather go along with the hype than asking themselves "Only uses 1.5GB of vRAM, what does that mean?" Then there are people such as you and vulcan who try to educate, but get downvoted for trying to put some sense.
Goes both ways, though, isn't it? There are as many people just attacking others because they just prefer a certain other platform. And no matter what you say, no matter how reasonable you try to be, you will get totally ridiculous responses. Let people enjoy their hobby. I'm not making a secret that I like PlayStation more, but come on now. Can we be a little bit excited because we like sh!t? Please?
Ju, I totally agree with you that there will be ridiculous responses no matter what. I'm really not trying to bash the PS4, I just use it as an example because now it's the craze. When the Xbox720 gets announced, people will go bonkers over it as well and the cycle continues.
My point still stands though. I'm actually excited about the PS4 as much as the next guy. But seriously, how can you show your excitement when you can't have an intelligent conversation on this site? Right now all everyone does is talk about hardware nonsense, PC elitists, PS4 fanatics, it's the same load of crap and it isn't excitement.
Anyway, this is my last post on this thread, no need to continue me thinks.
no game out there now will use even close to that at 1080p, not even pc crushing games.
the only way a game can use that much memory is if it is running eyefinity (multiple monitors)
Crysis 3 uses about 2GB of video memory on a graphics card if you max it @ 1080p and enable 4x MSAA. http://www.guru3d.com/artic...
That goes to 2.5GB if you increase the AA or resolution further, to say 2560 x 1600.
Crytek aimed for the 2GB video memory figure @ 1080p and nailed it dead on.
I think it can manage like 2.5GB system memory. If you play 2560 x 1600 you can easily exceed 5GB total memory usage anyway.
1.5Gb video memory usage is a common figure for an average modern PC game. Quite a lot of PC games can exceed that figure these days. Battlefield 3 could exceed 1.7GB 18 months ago. Total war, Civ 5 etc as you might expect from strategy games can have very high memory usage.
ps4 is a raging beast baby! its unstoppable!
Its no wonder if true, late games always blow launch titles out of the water.
Well is this so unbelievable? BF3 on ultra with 64 player on a huge map only takes as much as 2gb vRam.
I can believe this. Killzone looked great but I never though it used 6-7 gb vram for a second. But they will my friend they will in a few years. Now If deep down is real time then I would say it used more vram than killzone..
@Dylila acting crazy again. ps4 >>> pc I guess in ur world.
This game uses 1.7gb vram on my pc.
I hope they get killzone running 60fps by launch. It looked amazing.
Also I won't be only looking to 1st party devs for the best looking ps4 games! Remember this is x86 and most devs know the this kind of cpu already. It's not like cell were they have to relearn things. x86 is where game devs first learn to program games on pc. I think crytek, dice and 4a will make ps4 games look amazing.
I pray that Deep Down is realtime.
I would get metro: last light on ps4 not ps3 if you can help it.
And know it's all about next gen graphics but seeing how ps4 is more like pc I hope this means ps4 will get the sims!!
going on in the game the Graphics looked ultra detailed. They are pretty different games from a deign standpoint but MOH is definitely more detailed. Nut KZs prettu close for a game that isnt finished yet.
KZ: SF looks way better than BF3 on ultra settings. I just saw the video.
@Subtenko- I own BF3 on PC and my PC maxes it out. Seeing KZ SF in HD....yes. IT very much looks better then BF3 on PC.
Many of you have to remember, it will only look better because DICE didn't just optimize BF3 to run on 8gigs or anything. Why the hell would they? NO PC GAME NEEDS IT THUS THERES NO POINT!
Of Course BF4 can change all that, but we'll have to a wait and see.
the first kits did only have 2 gigs so it's possible. then they got 4 gig kits.
Just to add. They did not get the 4 gigs kits until September. Which does not give devs enough time to make a game. Maybe a short demo but the one thing that is very clear is that nothing we saw was running on 8 gigs of gddr5 Ram. The Developers in attendence didn't even know that they were going to use 8 gigs. So know they can go back and beef up the games they are working on. The Next gen is going to be very exciting with both systems having 8 gigs.
Let's hope for a amazing boost on KZSF know that GG knows the true! not like it need it but..
plus they next game will be even more amazing!
i know consoles are not suppose to even come close to great looking pc games but imo atleast ps4 is blurring the lines between great looking pc to great looking console games
I think this killzone I have seen is the best looking game I have seen. PC or otherwise. Granted my PC isn't the highest end but it was about 1,500 dollars a couple years ago when I bought it. I haven't seen a game this good. But Crysis 3 is beautiful too. I know i'll get hate for saying that but it's how I feel.
+ This is the just beginning of next-gen, hell even this gen, even the new games releasing this year still have impressive graphics etc.
This console is going to be awesome due to the fact unlike the PC it has no overheads , Ps4 is a serious bit of kit .
VRAM not RAM....there is no 8gb VRAM in ps3 >.> learn to read...VRAM = VIDEO RAM.
That is for the whole system. OS, all its new features, all the computing for games to do and other stuff, this is shared ram and you will never ever even see half of it used for graphics. Comments like "6,5 Gb of ram for graphics still to go!" are just stupid.
This news would not be surprising and shows like most co soles that things will get much better...but Phil? Not the most Dutch name I have ever heard.
My question is why arnt they using it then? Are we going to have the same problem of never hitting the potential like with the PS3?
Jesus, they're not using it as they didn't know about it.
Yes but if thats devkit then retail 4x less ?? wiiu devkits have 4GB essentially you build a game at 4GB and compress it down to 1GB and loose zero quality in the process,i don't think devs are clear on how much RAM ps4 games have ?
I dont think most people understand what they are saying, not 1.5 gigs total ram, 1.5 gigs vram. Atleast 512 mb of ram for the cpu, im guessing probably close to 2 gigs though. Then I dont know how much background tasks eat up, it sounds like sony has alot going on in the background to make things transition instantly. So there probably is some headroom, no idea how much. And im guessing we will see more impressive games later on.
I love Sony.
I love Playstation.
I love how Playstation 4 is shaping up.
I love Guerrilla Games.
I love Killzone.
That said...
I don't believe it's only 1.5 GB.
If I was told it was 3.5 GB I would have absolutely bought it.
4GB of leaked devkits - 0.5 of OS...I would have believe it easily.
1.5 I don't believe it and at the same time I soooooooooooo hope it's true :p
@logic nothing ps related to you logic.I'm sick of reading your so called "balanced "opinion on every p s related article.you don't like anything they show then by all means gtfo
See what 1.5 gigs can do? I believe that is what the wiiu has? Quite interesting and proof from a Sony developer too! Really you don't even need that much.
Really guy ?
Because the Wii U has 2 GB of Ram.
Do you even know what video ram and frame buffer means? Then on top of every thing it still runs at 30 fps. So yeah 2 gigs is still a lot for a console. It really does depend on how the developer chooses to break things up.
I'm think by the time people figure out what to do with the ram we will be in the next gen. A large majority of titles on the high end pc are not even using the ram in those systems.
I like the move to gddr as well as SRAM. Which means reguardless of how much or little ram you need it will be fast meaning it can do more.
For Sony to show off this speed they will need game play that I actauly like. Fast paced high end rendering with destruction changinging the play field strategically.
I hope their controller interface is up for it.
Now if they want to start using tessalation in a game then they start having a reason for that much ram. Also unless Sony gimps this system we should have 64 player maps easily!
I think this is the gen where the "hardcore" have to learn what specs can and can't do.
This game was using the specs Sony was using before they changed them to match the 720. PS4 announced specs are a new target
Here are the specs Sony was using just weeks ago


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Many a deal is concluded with a firm handshake, a smile and a few scuffles of a boot in the dirt on farms and ranches across the country — but that level of trust may soon be as rare as handwritten letters.
A "gentlemen's agreement" is often all that's required to conduct business in rural America, but that may not be enough anymore, says Jason Thomas, CPA, JD, and senior tax manager at Frost PLLC, certified public accountants in Little Rock, Ark.
"Is the gentlemen's agreement obsolete?" he asked at a Beef Financial Management Conference in Amarillo, Texas. "That may be a little too strong, but business is becoming less personal, and farmers and ranchers are making fewer one-on-one deals."
A bankruptcy case about a year ago involving the Eastern Livestock Company, LLC, proves the point, Thomas says. In that case, the company drew on a $32 million letter of credit and created "artificial balances in other accounts," using an illegal scheme called check kiting to defraud clients.
"The bank was asleep at the wheel," he says. Checks issued to producers who had sold cattle were returned because of insufficient funds.
"They were left holding worthless checks," he says. "The company filed bankruptcy and the producers were left with nothing."
The fraud amounted to a kind of Ponzi scheme, he notes. While some funds have been recovered, significant amounts remain unsecured.
Ranchers should take this cautionary tale to heart, Thomas says, and think carefully about how they conduct business. Preventing fraud, he says, should be part of any producer's risk management strategy.
"Managing risk requires an integrated approach to balance conflicting objectives," he says, and both personal objectives and business objectives come into play. Personal goals include building relationships and trust, while business objectives include profit, business security and the farm or ranch's longevity.
He said fraud includes three parts — motive (or pressure), opportunity and rationalization.
"Don't provide an opportunity for fraud," he advises. That may mean doing business in a different way than usual.
"Think about managing risk every day. That's hard to do in daily practice — producers tend to do things the same way for a long time. But we're in changing conditions. We deal with new buyers, for instance."
He says producers should enter into new relationships cautiously, "with someone you can trust. But trust is a two-way street — you have to build a trust history."
In the absence of that history, producers still have options to reduce the chances of fraud. Obtaining information about a trading partner is critical for a cattle producer, he says. Keeping good records is also important; he recommends requiring binding contracts, letters of credit and getting everything in writing.
State and federal laws also help. Following the case from last year several states have initiated regulations that require security liens from cattle buyers, Thomas notes. The liens are in effect "until the check clears the bank. This is a minimal and a useful approach."
He says a letter of credit should "guarantee that the obligation is paid."
Responding to a question from the audience, Thomas said auction houses offer special circumstances for sellers.
"The buyer may be unknown, so the auction house itself may need to put in safeguards. That may be tedious to do. Also, state legislation may come into play."
He says auction houses face both a challenge and an opportunity to "protect customers and to increase the customer base" with increased safeguards.

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WALTHAM, Mass. – Competing at the Brandeis University Invitational on Sunday, the MIT women's fencing team defeated UNC (14-13) but fell to Yale (14-13), St. John's (24-3), Cornell (17-10), and Brown (19-8). The victory over the Tar Heels was the first for the Engineers since 2004 and seventh in program history.
The sabre squad amassed a record of 23-22, highlighted by victories over Yale (6-3), Cornell (6-3), and UNC (5-4). Junior Robin Shin (Brookline, Mass.) powered the Cardinal and Gray with a 12-3 performance while senior Molly Kozminsky (Port Matilda, Pa.) finished at 11-4. Junior Elisabeth Morant (Chicago, Ill.) was winless in her 14 appearances as junior Sally Wolfe (Madison, Wis.) was defeated in her lone bout.
The epee team edged out Yale (5-4) and fell to Cornell by the same margin en route to a total of 14-31. Freshman Sarah Alkilany (Brooklyn, N.Y.) went 5-5 as senior Kirsten Hessler (Roswell, Ga.) posted a ledger of 6-8. Seniors Breanna Peterman (Selden, N.Y.) and Rachel Williams (Merritt Island, Fla.) rounded out the squad with marks of 2-12 and 1-6, respectively.
A 6-3 win over UNC helped propel the foil team to an 11-34 record for the day. Senior Julia Hopkins (New York, N.Y.) had a ledger of 5-10 as classmate Ana Escalante (Los Angeles, Calif.) came in at 3-11. Junior Julia Kimmerly (Middlesex, Vt.) contributed a tally of 2-5 while freshman Rebecca Shi (Plainsboro, N.J.) finished at 1-8.
MIT (6-5) will return to action on Saturday, Jan. 28 for its final Northeast Fencing Conference competition of the season.


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Will Vote Delay Tarnish Michael Dell's Image?
Dell's shareholder meeting has been adjourned until July 24, a signal that the company didn't think it had the votes to pass its proposed $24.4 billion sale to Michael Dell and Silver Lake. MoneyBeat's David Benoit and Angelo Zino of S&P Capital IQ discuss the latest.
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ALM so it's a substantial amount of money on his end ... but you know all things aside here ... aam I think they were too many institutional investors ... that work on a stunning decided against ... of Michael Dell's supporting Carl Icahn and ... pretty much calling Michael Dell's off here and I think ... of now that is that the bloc has been called that I think he's going to have to up his offer ... to do what happens in the next week and it was Carl Icahn you ... oh God I'm actually saw some of the state already this morning he's Corsi how ... he is ... disappointed but not surprised that they would delay the vote ... aam ... I think what happens is uncertain Adobe negotiations going on about what what Michael does mm on and kind of distorted or ... shareholder painting you know ... a combo they they Avici they have every name of the people that didn't go to go into those people ... and try to get their votes ... aam and that that ... the US is a sin or getting this morning that ... this is more about ... getting more votes in the Serengeti and bonk ... I'm really still unclear ... whether Michael will will fall that same and I agree that if the pressures on him but then ... but the networks' finance minister who is this whole thing about this deal not going down today not happen in both the Proms with it ... has been a contentious process the whole time ... is this all some kind of indication that this plan is not a very ... good plan ... um ... as a rainy here talking about is the planned taking the company private and not a good plan when I mean that the plan your friendly look ever complained about the share price but no further offers no competing offers came when with a substantial substantially better price tag ... is is this to happen shareholders storm allegiances and not very good deal ... for Dell ... for the company a for shareholders ... well well I think the best thing for Dell personally is for the company had to go private here ... I'm in it ... and ... and I think known Michael Dell's offer out there ... is is a pretty good one for investors I mean ... I think what you can sign in to see here is the number Investors the boss' a significant amount of money ... aam ... investing in the company in recent years and because of that ... they wanted squeeze as much as they can ... aam added the company ... aam ... Yeliz ... I think that there's a there's no way that Dell would do the same itself better as the company ... if it were to ... keep itself publicly traded especially ... given the events that was Khona seen here ... in recent months um ... because million out of the kind of in the put and that you know ... the square center of everything ... and they don't have to do something if you know the opinion even if ... the whole Michael Dell situation Khona flops ... and the last thing you wanna do is potentially Sidel ... significantly increase its debt exposure and remain a publicly traded company for and do does this ... I mean obviously it's more for for Michael Dell the man ... I mean does this start to become a thing where ... his is his way to see if this company is in jeopardy ... I was I would argue that's with this whole fight has been about a ... thousand it is is the name on the door on on your computers ... aam should do on a Dell ... accidental ... death it ... aam ... certainly I think that's what the large predators the penalty ... he knows he has to change the company he knows he has turned around ... and as Angeles AP ... he thinks ... it's easy to do this in private ... right and so ... policies can keep trying if this wind up in public is not able to just walk away to drink and other items ... but ... it will be harder Welch and Intel have to face the public scrutiny of ... job cuts in and miserable margins gossip with ... the ... high day Benoit they carry much Angelo Zino thank you very much thank you


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In 'Skyfall,' James Bond fights irrelevance
The James Bond movie franchise turns 50 this year and continues with Daniel Craig in the title role. But to hear everybody in "Skyfall'' debate whether, after 23 movies, James is now too long in the tooth for glamorous spy craft — the leaping onto speeding trains, the sneaking up behind a sexy lady as she showers — you would think the star of this movie is Methuselah. "Skyfall'' refers to James's boyhood manor. But, really, it's what Chicken Little calls his action thriller, not 007.
At almost 2½ hours, the movie plays like a long, familiar family conversation: Should we put dad in a home or not? This idea of retirement comes up over and over, and it does so at the expense of the actual fun of these movies: their exaggerated interpretation of international politics — warlords, terrorists, greedy pigs, insane demands, the pathological need of sex to be had.
"Skyfall,'' which has a midnight showing tonight at the Jordan's Furniture IMAX theaters in Reading and Natick, doesn't feature much of any of that. The movie gives us Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem), an evil former agent who's still mad about his treatment by MI6 and its ruthless director, M (Judi Dench). He wants the British intelligence agency in general and M in particular to suffer, so he steals a file with the names of NATO field operatives and begins to blow their cover, one mission at a time. He also has a computer virus obliterate the headquarters and flash ominous messages on M's laptop. Obviously, she needs her precious 007 to stop the destruction. But before he can begin, James's fitness for work is questioned. He was presumed dead after the film's opening sequences and returns to London a drunken wreck. The security breach and James's resurrection prompt the new intelligence and security chairman, Gareth Malloy (Ralph Fiennes), to question whether it's time to put both the spy and his boss out to pasture. It's the dignified thing to do, Malloy tells M. "Oh, to hell with dignity,'' she spits, Denchly.
These are truly tedious stakes for an action movie. The franchise isn't worried about world safety. It's fretting over whether to start wearing Depends. After more than an hour, Silva reveals himself, among the vivid brutalist ruins of Japan's deserted Hashima Island. The combination of Bardem's slabby handsomeness and his newly yellow hair and orange eyebrows achieves unsightly alchemy: He's Frankenstein's Ken doll. Silva ties James up to a chair and proceeds to fondle, among other parts, his Adam's apple. It's quite a moment, one that both deliberately echoes a grisly torture sequence in "Casino Royale'' (a much livelier evening at the movies, with Craig's maiden outing as Bond) and implies the character's bisexuality. Silva is flirting with Bond, and, sadly, "Skyfall'' is flirting with us. Silva brings bond to Hashima Island not for sex, but to lecture him about what dinosaurs they all are — Bond, M, the agency, the series, their technology, their jet-set approach to intelligence.
The script is credited to John Logan and two regular Bond screenwriters, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. The film's been directed by Sam Mendes, an Englishman with a high style that can either mask mediocre material ("American Beauty'') or find unexpected moral art in familiar subject matter (the first Gulf war in "Jarhead''). I don't know what Mendes believed he could bring to the series that would have freed it from all that it's obligated to do. It seems as if Silva's contempt for M — his vengeance is like that of a spurned child — and her discovery of an orphaned James might push the film into strange psychological territory, that M might be some rethinking of the manipulator Angela Lansbury played in "The Manchurian Candidate,'' that the "M'' might stand, sardonically, for "Mommy.'' But the misogyny in this movie doesn't extend that far. It's still mostly women as bait, screw-ups, and exercise.
Watching the purposefulness of this movie, the way Mendes argues for conversation and atmosphere over conventional, incoherently assembled chases and fights, I realized I was frustrated. "Skyfall'' does every single thing these movies have to do (Bond's last-name/full-name introduction, the shaking of the martini, the sport cars and sport sex; the stunts, deployment of gadgets, and camped-up villainy), and there's little Mendes can do to enliven the familiarity. He has a set of instructions and straying too far from them risks rearranging an entire room when your assignment was simply to remove a chair. Once James finds himself behind the wheel of an Aston Martin, Silva reveals his detachable jaw, and the equipment specialist, Q, and the executive assistant, Moneypenny, are reintroduced to the series, the movie's self-defensiveness has atrophied into the kind of nostalgia that calls into question going on with this enterprise at all. Here we go again.
Mendes opens things up. There are three exquisite set pieces, one in MI6's vast new underground lair that — austerity measures be damned — features a chic interrogation hangar with a holding tank that Bardem fills with the high-minded arrogance of Hannibal Lecter and the musky perversion of his serial killer in "No Country for Old Men.'' Another is that Hashima Island interlude. The last is the film's climax, which has been orchestrated in and around the grand old Skyfall manse in the Scottish Highlands. Nearly every Bond movie has fabulous exterior sequences. The ones in Skyfall are the first to achieve theatricality.
Mostly this is the result of ingenious art direction and production design, but it's also a result of the manner in which the camera and editing resist carving up all that open space. As much as he can, Mendes wants you to appreciate the scale. These are sublime locations, particularly the last two. Why waste them in a barrage of technical excess? I would love to see them again. That, of course, would mean watching this movie a second time, and there's not enough here to make that worth doing, even on HBO at 2 a.m.
Mendes conducts things with such deliberateness and precision that often all you have is clockwork. There might be people excited by trains that pull into the station on time, but that's the least a good rail system can provide. Mendes meets expectations and visually exceeds them, but I didn't have much fun at "Skyfall.'' A kind of incompetence is the engine that keeps the franchise going. Professionalism should come more from MI6 than the filmmaking, per se, and all you notice with "Skyfall'' is the professionalism.
This is especially true of Craig, who after three movies actually does look ready to retire. He has an actor's dramatic heft, but, with the exception of "Casino Royale,'' these movies have given him very little to act, which means you need a star with the kind of shameless, unembarrassed charisma that Craig — unlike Sean Connery, Roger Moore, and Pierce Brosnan — might be too self-consciously talented to deploy. "Casino Royale'' gave him a psychology to play. Here, he's best as a kind of solemn fashion model, leaping from an excavator into the car of a moving train, stopping only to adjust the cuff of his shirt. Craig is either playing a man who's psychologically firewalled or he's layered a lot of posing and grave expressions into a sophisticated illusion of instinct — Richard Burton not drunk enough to let loose.
For all of "Skyfall,'' I thought about the most recent "Mission: Impossible'' — "Ghost Protocol'' — a movie that didn't need to exist and was seemingly delighted by its own extravagance. That movie had a star who loves, loves, loves being himself and a director who prizes coherence and was spared the assorted hassles that come with being responsible for a half-century-old franchise. The "Mission: Impossible'' movies, as well as the "Bourne'' films, a generous handful of television series, and almost anything starring Jason Statham, breathe the cultural oxygen of the Bond franchise without having to contend with or maintain its legacy. What was special about these movies' ideas of international politics and sexual indecorousness 40 and 50 years ago feels standard now; some of that specialty, like Bond's suaveness (Tom Ford made the excellent menswear), has a dated allure.
We've absorbed these movies so fully that there's almost nothing left for them to say. The marketplace demands that the franchise exist, and with that comes a kind of pressure not to trash things too much. This means James Bond could never have been a woman or have sex with a man, that he must continue to battle craggy foes, that he'll be more beholden now to the demands of the ratings board than he was even a decade ago (like many of its predecessors, the movie is PG-13, but this time the decorum is depressing), that he'll never fully live in the 21st century because, this series seems to say, there's something undignified about how we live now. But if these movies are ever to matter again, their makers have to be willing to say to hell with dignity.


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Wealden Iron Research Group
The Wealden Iron Research Group (WIRG) was founded to focus and initiate research into the extinct iron industry of the Sussex, Kent and Surrey Weald, and aims to foster interest in this subject, to work with other groups and institutions having allied aims and, above all, to publish its researches. Find out more about their work and interests at www.wealdeniron.org.uk∞.
One of the original aims of WIRG, to publish a new survey of the industry, has resulted in the new standard reference on the subject, The Iron Industry of the Weald, by Henry Cleere and David Crossley, first published in 1985 and now in its second edition, which contains much of WIRG's research over the past thirty-five years. In 1981, the group won the BBC's Chronicle Award for Archaeology.
Although WIRG is predominantly a loose association of individuals who pursue their own interests and researches, it does have active sections which engage in particular activities. Its Field Group organises a monthly programme of fieldwork between October and April, looking for undiscovered sites, surveying, and carrying out small-scale excavations. Meeting on Saturdays, the forays, as they are called, take place all over the Weald, and a number of projects are in progress. One of these is the systematic field walking of an area of the Weald to record all the iron-making sites there. Another group within WIRG undertakes experimental iron smelting at a primitive bloomery furnace on Ashdown Forest, attempting to replicate the products and waste materials of the Iron Age, Roman and medieval iron makers. Members assisted in an experimental smelt for one of the Time Team's broadcasts. The group holds two meetings a year, in January/February and in July, with visiting speakers. The summer meeting also includes a site visit. In addition, the group advises archaeological units where iron-related material is being excavated, and has provided information for several television and radio programmes. Some of WIRG's members are regular lecturers to local societies, and have run adult education courses on the industry.
WIRG is managed by a committee, which is elected annually at its summer meeting, and which administers the Tebbutt Research Fund, awarding small grants towards research into the Wealden iron industry. For details of this fund, and of membership of the group, which at present numbers about 170.
Tebbutt Research Fund
This fund was established as a tribute to the life and work of the late C Fred Tebbutt OBE FSA, the first President of WIRG. Applications are invited from individuals and groups, for grants towards aiding research, including associated expenses, into any aspect of the Wealden iron industry. Applications should be received before 31 March each year.
David Brown, Hon Secretary, 2 West Street Farm Cottages, Maynards Green, Heathfield, Sussex TN21 0DG, tel 01435 812506, email firstname.lastname@example.com∞, web www.wealdeniron.org.uk/about.htm∞.
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by Rev. John S. Smylie
It has been my pleasure to become acquainted with some colorful clergy who are imaginative in delivering meaningful messages to their congregations.
One dear friend decided that he would vacuum the sanctuary of the church during the service time for the sermon. His congregation sat in their pews for 10 minutes wondering what in the heck was going on. Had their pastor lost his mind?
Amazingly, everyone sat patiently and when the vacuuming was finished, the pastor put the vacuum away and returned to the pulpit. And told his flock that he decided to vacuum that day because he felt his pastoral messages were landing on deaf ears. No matter what he preached it seemed to him that the behavior and commitment of this congregation remained the same.
He didn't see any results from his preaching because the congregation didn't do any work on their part to grow and become more Christ-like. He vacuumed, he told them, so that the use of his time was purposeful.
Another pastor (one of my dear friends) admonished his congregation that if they didn't come to Thanksgiving Eve service, there was a good chance that they would choke on their turkey bones! The point of the quip is-if we can't take time to give thanks to God in God's house on Thanksgiving, then something is very wrong with the way we are celebrating the holiday and managing our spiritual lives.
I am delighted this year to be the celebrant for the Thanksgiving Eve service - 7 p.m. - Holy Trinity Episcopal Church - 4th & Edison in Sunnyside. It is my pleasure to invite the whole community to join in welcoming "Thanksgiving To God" in song, sweet fellowship, and the feast of our Lord's supper.
"Come-gather together and together we ask the Lord's blessing!" (and not take a chance on choking on turkey bones!)
Reverend John S. Smylie is the interim priest at the Holy Trinity Espisocal Church in Sunnyside.
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Jeremy Nussbaum of Amagansett and New York City, a prominent attorney and the co-owner with his wife, Charline Spektor, of the BookHampton stores, died at their Manhattan apartment on June 12. Mr. Nussbaum, 70, had been diagnosed with cancer some time ago.
In the mid-'60s, the time of the Watts race riots, the freedom marchers, and Agent Orange, Mr. Nussbaum attended one of the most liberal colleges in the nation, the University of California at Berkeley. Student unrest over the war in Vietnam was escalating. He was among the leaders of Berkeley's Free Speech Movement, a series of student protests, unprecedented at the time, demanding that the university end its ban of on-campus political activities. The drive, which succeeded, was a precedent for the civil rights movement, and also for Mr. Nussbaum, who remained an outspoken liberal throughout his life.
"Our investment in the future of our country was in having independent bookstores and being able to read whatever you want," Ms. Spektor said in recalling how the couple came to own the BookHampton stores. "The most important thing for freedom is the freedom to read and to understand other people's ideas. He said that all the time."
Mr. Nussbaum was born in Muskogee, Okla., on Nov. 23, 1941, to Max Nussbaum and the former Ruth Offenstadt, two years after his parents escaped from Nazi Germany, where his father had been the rabbi of Berlin's once-powerful Reform Jewish congregation. When he was a toddler, the family moved to Hollywood, and he grew up there among directors, producers, and a galaxy of movie stars. It was Rabbi Nussbaum who converted Elizabeth Taylor to Judaism before her marriage to Eddie Fisher.
After graduating from college, Mr. Nussbaum attended law school at New York University, and he stayed in New York, where he and Ms. Spektor met, for the rest of his life. With what his family called an "unstoppable curiosity and an extraordinary depth of literary knowledge," much of it acquired over a lifetime's prodigious reading, he became a sought-after specialist in intellectual property law, dealing with novels, poems, plays, films, musical work, artworks, and architectural design during a 40-year career. Among his well-known clients, first at Greenbaum Wolff & Ernst and then as a senior partner at Cowan Leibowitz Latman, were the authors Joe Heller, William Gaddis, and Robert K. Massie; the actress Kathleen Turner, the actor Andre Gregory (who introduced the couple), and the Nobel Prize-winning neuroscientist Eric Kandel.
After renting for a few years in Sag Harbor, the Nussbaums fell in love with a house on Old Montauk Highway in Amagansett and bought it 28 years ago. Mr. Nussbaum, who had an encyclopedic knowledge of both classical music and jazz, played the piano and the clarinet. The couple's house was filled with music, books, and good talk, often political. Movies and the stage were also high on his eclectic list; he was a founder of the Hamptons International Film Festival.
The Nussbaums became the owners of the BookHamptons in 2000. There were two then, in East Hampton and Southampton, but they added a third, in Sag Harbor, within a year. Their newest, in Mattituck on the North Fork, has been open only a few months. The stores will continue under her ownership, Ms. Spektor said.
All four were closed last Thursday so employees could attend Mr. Nussbaum's funeral at the Jewish Center of the Hamptons. Both sides of Woods Lane were lined with cars for the service, which was followed by burial at the center's cemetery in Springs, Shaaray Pardes.
Mr. Nussbaum leaves a son, Gabriel, who runs Bank Street Films in Manhattan, and a daughter, Lily Claire, who heads a rock band called Lily and the Parlor Tricks. Both live in New York City. A sister, Hannah Marsh of Los Angeles, also survives.
The family has suggested contributions in Mr. Nussbaum's memory for Planned Parenthood, 434 West 33rd Street, New York 10001, or the American Civil Liberties Union, 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor, New York 10004.


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Gundam Fanfiction Thread
I remember that we used to have this thread before the forums got wiped, yeah, so here we go. Post up your fanfics, or those you think are deserving of recommendation.
Hidden Faith by Fatty Chalupa
A piece by our very own Fatty Chalupa. Not too much to say here. -WIP-
A Story of Heroes by bondfan
A rather interesting part-AU (ie. not a "proper" AU, but instead it modifies the canon tale) that takes place post-Alaska. Various new OCs and machines, as well as losses that never were. -Complete-
Brothers in Arms by Solid Shark
"How much do events change with just one person added to the equation?" While the number does happen to eventually be untrue, the OCs here are awesome without being godly (which happens to be some of the complaints against GSD...). Prepare for truths to be flipped around Hideo Kojima-style as the narrative progresses! -Complete-
Birds of a Feather by Solid Shark
Arguably the story which revived the "OC in canon tale part-AU" genre in the GS category. Read on and learn the truths behind the many questions surrounding Ken DiFalco. -WIP-
Well, that would be my say on things. Go on, contribute. It would do us all good.
|2005-12-30, 23:40
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Unfortunately I decided to give up on mine. Its just that the Final Plus has completely screwed up everything I wrote. (That bastard Fukuda!)
Nice to see this thread back up again though. Writing is a good hobby!
|2005-12-31, 01:09
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Well Demongod86, maybe some people like to make a continuation of their favorite anime. Its not like you're gonna watch the final episode of an incredible series and then the very next second you're gonna forget aobut it. Its kinda hard to pull something out of mid-air and start writing about it. I mean lets take our wonderful friend Fukuda here. Half of the mecha in CE were poor rip offs based on stuff in UC
|2005-12-31, 01:13
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|2005-12-31, 01:25
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Really... As I said in another thread, you stll have a right to disagree with others but you can't go out and call them "amateurs" and say that their work is "rabid." Yeah I won't mind if people hate my work but like any other normal person I'd get angry if people started calling me names.
|2005-12-31, 02:11
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i recommend this. this guy is almost just as good as the actual scriptwriters for the original seed.
|2005-12-31, 06:57
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i write original stuff i have 3 books full with manga made by hand and drawing pencel and have a comic online on the official dutch Abunai convention team
but still i preffer making fanfiction, mostly because my ieas start from fanfiction and then come to something way different witch can be called to an original fictional story
i have a Gundam Seed Destiny fanfiction in my list, though at that time i didnt know much about things such as models and uniforms, those will be sorted out, i decided to make my own alternative story
currently its on hold because i am still bussy with my first part of Black Gatomon, after that i will redo the GSD story and finish it, the sequel has been thought of but i have so many storis to finish that it'll have to wait
those who hate Shinn.. dont read..
|2005-12-31, 07:04
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It's actually quite difficult to write good fanfiction. If you have any respect for the original work, you have plenty of limitations in terms of the original storyline, settings, characterization. In a way, writing fanfiction is a good way at practicising before producing your original work.
Unfortunately, 90% of the stuff out there is nigh unreadable. That includes all the ones that take the characters and drop them into a high school setting, uses text-messanging syntax and has more author comments than actual writing.
|2006-01-01, 07:39
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That depends actually on how far you intend to follow the canon. If you intend to write part-AU, deviation is quite allowed (intended to varying extents, actually).
And I wonder if your "90%" estimate is overdoing things...
|2006-01-01, 16:01
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In Vain Doth Valeur Bleed - it's very long and still in progress, but one of the few Gundam fanfiction works that I've found worth reading. It's set in the Zeta era, and is about a group of former Zeon.
|2006-01-01, 16:37
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If its bad, it's better to say nothing about it and be nice not to say anything negative. But this is Earth, so it's not full of good and selfless people.
Fan fiction is like a practise for some fan fiction writers who wants to be a writer. If you still want to call us, the writers, a bunch of amateurs, fine, call us amateurs because we are. However, that does not mean that we do not get any better. Every chapter we write, every story we write is a progress for us.
|2006-01-01, 17:23
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Crazy Devout Fanboy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks
Here's my old fanfic, brought back form the dead after the hack. No changes have been made since my last update to it.
GSD Redone
|2006-01-01, 20:45
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Gundam Boobs and Boom FTW
Join Date: Dec 2005
To all those that say let's see me do fanfiction: did it before, in fact, I had a soulcalibur/warcraft 3 xover fic going, made it Siegfried x Taki anime style pairing, then had Illidan come on over looking for SE, and Maiev follow him, and it got like 11 reviews per chatper, but it just got discontinued.
For some reason my warcraft 3 humor fic got taken down as policy violations, because it was warcraft 3 meets QVC
That and some warcraft/starcraft/diablo fanficcers are REAL bastards. They are friggin Al Qaeda fundamentalists of fanfiction...wouldn't put it past them to start nuking original fiction sites in their raving...
|2006-01-02, 00:52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Have fun writing!
|2006-01-02, 13:53
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Loyal Haruhist.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Age: 32
The story is about a mercenary who gets a gundam and it's problems with various secret organizations, former EA soldiers and pirates.It's pure insanity.
I agree with scorch,In vain doth valour bleed is pure gold.There's also a lot of good fanfic iaround 60000 words in the UC section.
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|2006-01-02, 17:50
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Senior Member
I use to write all sorts of fanfiction stuff(have notebooks and notebooks of the stuff), but now I'm focusing on writing original works as it's more fun to come up with new stories and characters and not restrict myself to what's already been done.
Working on a Gundam series right now with a little bit of royal blood backstabbing and a staged war between two sides.
|2006-01-03, 05:24
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Loyal Haruhist.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Age: 32
But you're bound to find a diamond sooner or later.In vain doth valour bleed is perfect.I cannot say any bad words about it.The story,the characters and the style are great.
I know it,I read 20 chapters of it.It's criminal of a gundam fan to ignore this story just because it's a fanfic.I insist, read the first chapter.
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The public's skepticism about U.S. international engagement – evident in America's Place in the World surveys four and eight years ago – has increased. Currently, 52 percent say the United States "should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along the best they can on their own." Just 38 percent disagree with the statement. This is the most lopsided balance in favor of the U.S. "minding its own business" in the nearly 50-year history of the measure.
Not so coincidentally, the landslide winner of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Presidential Straw Poll last weekend was U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). He beat runnerup U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 20 points.
Paul's even more famous father, Dr. Ron Paul, has been opposed, often vehemently, to every war started by the U.S. war machine since Vietnam.
These wars have bankrupted the U.S. government. It is not clear what their objective was either. In retrospect, all these wars did was enrich the military-industrial complex and pick the pockets of taxpayers.
They also ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands of people who were ordered to participate in them.
It is doubtful, though, whether the corrupted GOP establishment, which is owned by globalistic Wall Street banksters and the worldwide megacorporations which they finance, will allow Sen. Paul to compete fairly for the 2016 nomination.
The establishment has never been kind to the Paul family. Right now the banksters are still shedding tears over the air coming out of the Chris Christie blimp. The New Jersey governor was and is BY FAR their preferred candidate for President.
They are so desperate that efforts are being made to recruit a person with one of the most despised last names in American political history to run for President. This candidate, should he run, would be wise to just go by his first name a la Madonna or Cher.
With the Democrats likely to nominate warmonger Hillary Clinton (if she runs) for President, it would be wise to have a candidate such as Sen. Paul on the other side to make the case for nonintervention and a return to the foreign policy of our founders.
Having said all that, how often do the aforementioned corporations who own the U.S. government consider the will of the people? Evidence shows it is only on Election Day that these forces ever even realize there is a population of hundreds of millions of people out here who despise them.


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Reina writes goodbye letter to Liverpool and fans
New Bayern Munich goalkeeper Pepe Reina has written an open letter to Liverpool after completing his £2 million move to the German champions.
Reina, 30, will provide backup for No.1 Manuel Neuer and explained his decision to leave Liverpool after spending last season on loan with Napoli. During his time at Anfield he won the FA Cup (2005-06), League Cup (2011-12) and UEFA Super Cup (2005).
He wrote:
"Around this time last year, I wrote a letter to say goodbye to Liverpool and the fans after I joined Napoli. Some people asked why I was doing it when I was only going on loan for a season and would be back within twelve months, but the reality was that it was already clear to me that my time at Anfield was over.
"Liverpool had signed Simon Mignolet to be their new number one and I was being allowed to go out on loan so I wanted to take the opportunity to offer my thanks and bid farewell because I knew that I would not be back.
"I suppose this is a bit of an update now that my departure has been confirmed and I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone at Liverpool - and I mean everyone - for everything that they have done for me over years. Last time, some of my words were misinterpreted and taken out of the context in which they were meant but it would never be my intention to leave Liverpool on anything but good terms so hopefully this will put that right once and for all.
"I have been extremely fortunate to spend so many years at what I consider to be one of the greatest clubs in world football. It has been an honour and a privilege. The memories I have of Anfield, my team-mates, the supporters and the people of Liverpool will stay with me forever. I am disappointed that I am leaving but only in the sense that I enjoyed being at the club so much and it is always difficult to say goodbye to something that is special to you. I will always be grateful to have played for Liverpool and my time at the club was always going to come to an end so we move on with no hard feelings.
"All I can do now is look forward to a new adventure at Bayern Munich and being reunited with Pep Guardiola, who was my first captain at Barcelona. Hopefully I will enjoy being with them as much as I enjoyed being with Liverpool and again. I am fortunate to be going from one great club to another. I will return to at Anfield some time soon, though, only next time it will be as a fan rather than a player and I hope that when I do come back Liverpool will be challenging for the biggest trophies like they always should.
"The final thing for me to do is to express my gratitude to everyone who has supported me in any way since I joined Liverpool in 2005 - all of the managers who I have played under, all of the players who I shared a dressing room with, all of the staff who helped me in so many ways and every single one of the fans who gave the team and myself the kind of backing that others can only dream of. I count myself as a Liverpudlian and I will be one for life.
"You'll Never Walk Alone.


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The former Motel 6 at 1321 Sycamore View Road in Northeast Memphis has traded hands for $1.4 million.
An entity called P & S Hospitality LLC bought the 27,232-square-foot motel in a Jan. 14 special warranty deed from G6 Hospitality Property LLC, which had bought the property in 2012 for $1.4 million from Motel 6 Operating LP.
Built in 1985, the hotel sits on 2.4 acres on the west side of Sycamore View Road south of its intersection with Macon Road. The Shelby County Assessor of Property's 2013 appraisal was $1.2 million.
In conjunction with the purchase, P & S Hospitality LLC filed a $1.1 million deed of trust through Argent Bank. Jetal R. Shah signed the deed as managing member of the borrower.
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– Daily News staff
Belz Enterprises has established a new venture, Peabody Hotels & Resorts, that moves the company into asset and brand management within the luxury hotel space.
The transition has been in the works for a few years, and through it, the new venture will begin researching and evaluating properties that could become Peabody-branded hotels.
Under the management of Belz's new venture, properties would take the Peabody name and adopt its core standards, values and traditions. And like the flagship Peabody property in Memphis, each hotel would serve as the home for its own group of five North American mallard ducks, continuing the Peabody's 80-year tradition of the March of the Peabody Ducks.
– Andy Meek
Dr. Gary W. Kimzey, an anesthesiologist at Medical Anesthesia Group, has been named the 137th president of the Memphis Medical Society.
Kimzey and other officers and newly elected members of the 2014 board of directors will be installed on Saturday, Jan. 25, at the Memphis Marriott East. The event begins with a 6 p.m. cocktail reception.
Kimzey is a 1969 graduate of Christian Brothers High School and a 1973 graduate of the University of Tennessee, Martin. He received his medical degree in 1977 from the University of Tennessee-Memphis. Kimzey is a fellow with the American Society of Anesthesiologists.
– Don Wade
Courtney Barnes of Woodyard Realty Corp. won the Associate Member of the Year award at the Apartment Association of Greater Memphis Diamond Achievement Gala.
Barnes, who was named Newcomer of the Year at the 2005 Pinnacle Awards commercial real estate ceremony, specializes in apartment sales and sales training for apartment owners.
Barnes' involvement with the Apartment Association has included serving on the board of directors, assisting with the annual golf scramble and teaching educational classes at the association.
– Amos Maki
Memphis-based medical device manufacturer Onyx Medical Corp. will hold a job fair Tuesday, Jan. 28, from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. at 1800 N. Shelby Oaks Drive.
Hourly and salaried positions under consideration include skilled machinists and machine operators, a quality technician and a software developer. Job descriptions, qualifications and applications are available at onyxmedical.net.
Space is limited to the first 100 qualified applicants. Call 323-6699 for more information.
The College of Allied Health Sciences at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center will host an open house for prospective students Friday, Feb. 21, from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m.
The event, to be held in the lower-level auditorium of the Student-Alumni Center, 800 Madison Ave., will provide information to individuals interested in learning more about educational programs for careers in allied health.
Prospective students will have the opportunity to talk with UTHSC allied health sciences faculty and students, tour teaching labs, and meet with representatives from the financial aid and admissions departments. College-level prerequisite coursework is required prior to admission to all UTHSC Allied Health Sciences programs.
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The Memphis City Council approved Tuesday, Jan. 21, a set of six alley and street closures on parcels totaling 28 acres in the Poplar Avenue-Cleveland Street area. The area, once known as Washington Bottoms, was cleared of buildings in 2008 in anticipation of redevelopment by a Memphis division of WSG Development Co. of Miami Beach, Fla.
WSG took out a $14 million construction loan for the project through Lehman Brothers Holdings, but after the economic downturn, Lehman Brothers foreclosed on the property and took control of it in 2010.
The council on Tuesday approved Lehman's application for the same street and alley closures it had approved for WSG. Tuesday's approval is good for three years.
The council also approved accepting $7.6 million in federal grant funding for the design and construction of improvements to Forest Hill-Irene Road from Walnut Grove Road to Rocky Point Road, and $661,795 in state funds for Walker Avenue streetscape improvements near the University of Memphis campus.
And the council approved a resolution by council member Myron Lowery that calls on the Shelby County Election Commission to have an effective and capable administrator.
Lowery originally offered a "no confidence" resolution targeting Shelby County Elections Administrator Richard Holden, similar to one approved by the Shelby County Commission last year.
– Bill Dries
A proposed deal to allow supermarket wine sales in Tennessee is drawing criticism for trying to exclude big box retailers and convenience stores.
Supporters of the measure seeking to authorize cities and counties to hold referendums on supermarket wine sales have been heartened by the liquor industry lobby for the first time engaging in serious negotiations over the perennial bill.
But a proposal to require a minimum percentage of sales to be made up by groceries in order to gain a license to sell wine has drawn the ire of big retailers such as Wal-Mart and smaller convenience stores.
Wal-Mart spokeswoman Anne Hatfield said in an email that company is calling for legislation that "does not arbitrarily limit our ability to offer customers the convenience and product assortment they want."
Rep. Jon Lundberg, R-Bristol and a main sponsor of supermarket wine sales, said Tuesday that he's wary of setting up free-market barriers.
David McMahan, a lobbyist for the Tennessee Wine and Spirits Retailers Association, said restricting wine sales to traditional supermarkets would fulfill the public demand for picking up a bottle while grocery shopping, while at the same time keeping the state's about 600 liquor stores from being driven out of business.
Randy Stepherson, a board member of the Tennessee Grocers & Convenience Store Association, issued a statement lauding the ongoing negotiations. But the owner of Memphis-based Superlo Foods stressed that the talks "remain fluid at this time."
– The Associated Press
Katy Perry's Prismatic World Tour will visit FedExForum Oct. 5. Tickets go on sale Monday, Jan. 27, at 10 a.m.
Perry is touring in support of "Prism," which debuted at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 and remains in the Top Ten three months after release. She is partnering with Tickets-for-Charity to offer tickets that benefit charitable causes, available at ticketsforcharity.com.
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The North American Anglo-Arabian Horse Association recognized the most talented Anglo-Arabians competing at both Youth and Sport Horse National Championships again in 2011. NAAAHA has rewarded the top performers since 2007 by presenting the top five horses and riders with embroidered dress sheets, ribbons and trophies.
This year's Youth Nationals' Supreme Champion was the gelding CRIMSON ILLUSION+, owned by Arielle Cotroneo of Bernardsville, NJ. He won a National Champion in Hunt Seat Equitation 13 & Under with Anna Sporrong in addition to a National Championship in Hunt Seat Equitation Walk-Trot with Chloe Doherty and a Top Ten in Hunt Seat Equitation 14-17 with Erika Faust. He is trained by Ricci and Stephanie Desiderio.
THOR+// (Sabers Clasy Star x Blind Eagle), owned by Patricia & Dwight Fichtner of Norco, CA, and ridden by Emily Phillips, was Reserve Supreme Champion Anglo by earning three Top Ten titles in Working Hunter, Hunter Hack and Equitation Over Fences. Thor was bred by K.S. Swigert.
Earning Top Five honors was VF MAJESTIC ROGUE++ (LFD Amir Rogue x Majestic Holme), owned and ridden by Madeline Jahns of Cave Creek, AZ, for their Top Ten awards in Training Level Dressage 13 & Under and Sport Horse Under Saddle. He was bred by Kristen Valencia.
The Anglo gelding HS HIGH POWER (High Sign+/ x Rangereite), owned by High Star Farms of Las Vegas, NV and ridden by Rachel Youngblood, won a Reserve National Championship in Sport Horse Under Saddle. He was bred by Susan S. Burkman.
Rounding out the Top Five was COPPERS ROCKY MOUNTAIN+// (Amazing Sulton x Copper Dawn) owned and shown by Rachel Barker of Surrey, BC. The pair won two Top Tens in Training & First Level Dressage 14-17.
At the Sport Horse National Championship Show, held in Lexington, Kentucky in September, there were 18 Anglos competing for these Top Honors.
The Supreme Champion was the 6-year-old mare CHURCH CREEK+++// (*Baladin d'Oc x Oh Say Valay) owned by Bill and Alexis Doughty of Cape Charles, VA and bred by Virginia Tech Foundation. She earned three National Championships in Open Sport Horse In Hand, Amateur Owner Working Hunter and Amateur Owner Hunter Hack, plus 4 Top Ten titles in Amateur Sport Horse In Hand; Hunter Hack Open and Amateur; in addition to Green Working Hunter.
The seven-year-old gelding ONE MORE ROUND+++// (Al Jassur Laddin x Winifred) earned Reserve Supreme Champion honors thanks to winning a National Champion in Open Sport Horse Under Saddle, and Top Tens in Adult Amateur, Amateur and Open Working Hunter; Sport Horse In Hand Geldings Open and Amateur. He is owned and bred by Bill Doughty of Cape Charles, VA.
Top Five awards were earned by RS MERCURY++++// (SDA Silver Legend x Vagabonds Finale), owned, bred and ridden by Jackie Alkin of Cave Creek, AZ. They garnered two National Championships in Hunter Hack Jr. Horse and Sport Horse Under Saddle Junior Horse; plus a Top Ten title in Green Working Hunter.
Seven-year-old gelding BEYOND THE SEAZ+/ (Al Marah Seazar x Glenna Bay), owned by Denny & Kristin Herbst of Farmington, MO. This horse earned 7 Top Ten titles in Open, Adult Owner & Amateur Working Hunter; Open, Adult Owner & Amateur Hunter Hack and Training Level Dressage.
With a National Champion in Sport Horse In Hand and a Top Ten in Sport Horse Under Saddle Junior Horse, KHEMOS KHOPI++ earned himself a place in our Top Five. Owned and bred by John Albright and Heather Rudd, this 5 year old gelding is sired by Kharbon Khopi++++// out of Do Yourself Proud.
Rounding out the Top Five was the 8 year old bay gelding MAKE MYNE A DOUBLE (Boilermaker x Vintage Style), owned and bred by Amy Judge & Raymond York of Columbia, VA. They earned three Top Tens in Open and Amateur Sport Horse In Hand, and Amateur Training Level Dressage.
Anglos earned a total of 7 National Championships and 16 Top Tens.
NAAAHA (www.naaaha.com) is a non-profit organization offering awards, education and promotion of Anglo-Arabian breeders and owners in North America.
The North American Anglo-Arabian Horse Association recognized the most talented Anglo-Arabians competing at both Youth and Sport Horse National Championships again in 2011. NAAAHA has rewarded the top performers since 2007 by presenting the top five horses and riders with embroidered dress sheets, ribbons and trophies.


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No.10: Edward Jones
Edward Jones is no stranger to awards -- among its accolades are a 13-year run on Fortune magazine's annual list of the 100 Best Companies to Work For. The financial services company is headquartered in Missouri; 77 of its 36,600 employees work in the Baltimore metro area. All associates are eligible to become partners in the firm and share in revenues; branch associates also enjoy compressed workweeks and telecommuting, among other perks. "I have a beautiful office with all the tools and support I need to help my clients. I have no cap on my earnings potential, and I have the training needed to be up to date. I travel the world and have become a [limited] partner in the firm," said one employee. "Life is good."
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