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The latest Town and Country magazine has a spread on the gorgeous house of Cosima von Bulow. Her living room is especially beautiful, with its cranberries and blues. But it's the photograph over the sofa that really got my attention. Taken by Candida Hofer – she is the hottest thing in upscale decorating according to the design magazines out this month. I counted three of her photos used by different designers just this month alone. When was the last time that happened?
Here's #2 - in October's Elle Décor – Frederic Fekkai's dining room featured a photograph by Candida Hofer, interior design by Robert Couturier. Notice how large the photographs are. In recent years, Hofer's photographs have gotten bigger and bigger.
And #3, in the latest Veranda, this apartment by Timothy Whealon featured a Candida Hofer photograph on the landing. Notice the gorgeous walnut door! Whealon told All The Best Blog that his most prized possession was a Hofer photograph HERE. Three magazines, one month, three houses – all Candida Hofer.
The Trinity Library – Whealon's most prized possession is this photograph.
And, a little different angle from Whealon's web site – showing the photograph more clearly.
The Museum of Archeology in Venice – this is the photograph in Whealon's Veranda spread.
Looking through a few older magazines showed evidence of more Candida Hofer: Jill Stuart's NYC apartment by Annabelle Selldorf – seen in Elle Décor, October 2009. The Hofer photograph is seen behind the sofa on the left.
Seen in Metropolitan Home – a Hofer photograph over the mantel. It's almost impossible to figure out which photograph this is.
And another Hofer of an Opera Theatre, seen in a dining room.
Elizabeth Mayhew also talked to Ronda of All The Best Blog – HERE. Her most prized possession is her art work, including this Candida Hofer library photograph.
So, who is Candida Hofer who has attracted the attention of so many of the finest interior designers and art collectors? Born in Germany, Hofer trained under avant garde German photographers Bernd and Hilla Becher. She first gained notice with her series on "Interiors," "Rooms," and "Zoological Gardens." While her early work showed exteriors and people, her later work became increasing devoid of people and featured interiors exclusively. She says she does not do landscapes. Her later, most famous work concentrates on libraries, theatres, museums, and a series of works in Italy, all published in gorgeous coffee table books.
The artist stands in front of two of photographs.
I am not an art critic, but I know what I like – and her images of public buildings are beautiful. Always taken from a dead on perspective, the interiors seem so alive, though not a soul is captured. I can see how this contemporary art work works so well in interiors that are neither strictly contemporary nor traditional. But, the art does seem much more at home in a New York highrise than a Texas ranch in Round Top. There is much written about Hofer on the internet, if you are interested in perusing it. I had a field day reading all about her in detail. Most of the reviews are positive, there is very little negative written about her work. Below are some of my favorite images – most are rather recent works, as opposed to her earlier, more stark and depressing subjects.
Le Louvre – Candida Hofer did a series of photographs at the famous Paris museum.
Another photograph from the Louvre Museum
Salone di Castel Capuano, detto anche "Salone dei Busti"
Palais Garnier
And, Palais Garnier set for a dinner.
Her photographs of libraries are spectacular. Here, Naples. This would make such a stunning image in a living room or library.
The gorgeous Abbey of the Library at Saint Gallin. A rare photograph that includes people in it.
The State Library in Naples. Incredible building.
Naples State Library – another view. What a gorgeous library, the tiled floor, the carved wood shelves. Beautiful.
This library has beautiful marble floors and carved wood columns.
Philadelphia Library.
Amazing. The books are so incredible. I couldn't resist showing this image so large, you can see so much more detail this way! Look at the handrails! Remember, put your monitor on maximum view.
Hofer has taken many photographs of beautiful theatres, here - The Theatre of Naples. Gorgeous! Another photograph that I can see in a living room or a dining room, especially in a room with dark blue velvet.
Masonic Temple in Philadelphia.
Masonic Temple in Philadelphia.
Theatre royal de la MonnaieKoninklijke Muntschouwburg
What does one cost? I don't know, but in 2006 – this signed photograph of which there are six, sold for $90,000.00. Yikes!
By contrast, this lithograph, of which there are 100, sells for around $4,000 – much more affordable!
1976, a series of Turkish workers, included people, of course – something her work never shows today.
In my opinion, not all of Hofer's photographs would be as desirable to hang in an elegant dining room as others. Some of her work is depressing or unattractive – not nearly as beautiful as a photograph of a Venice museum.
Other Photographers:
What if you can't afford an original Hofer? Photographer Don Menges took this shot of the Monroe County office, emulating the style of Candida Hofer. I'm sure his work goes for a fraction of what an Hofer does. Look at more of his work HERE.
Other photographers that designers like to use: Here Miles Redd used a Andrew Moore photograph on the right in this apartment.
Two Thomas Struth photographs flank an Andreas Gursky photograph in this Metropolitan Home feature story. Struth and Gursky are both peers of Hofer and they all studied together under Bernd and Hilla Becher.
This photographer is shown a lot - David Armstrong. The blurry images are confusing to me.
Candida Hofer Books:
Here are a few of her more popular books – order from Amazon by clicking on the title:
The book on the Bologna, Italy series:
Candida Hofer: Bologna Series (9788877572127): Ludovico Pratesi, Filippo Maggia, Candida Hofer: Books
The gorgeous book of libraries:
Libraries (9783829601863): Candida Höfer, Umberto Eco: Books
The book on the Naples, Italy photographs:
Candida Hofer: Napoli (German Edition) (9783829604246): Angela Tecce: Books
And finally – Candida Hofer's most acclaimed work – Architecture of Absence:
Candida Hofer: Architecture of Absence (9781931788489): Constance Glenn, Virginia Heckert, Mary-Kay Lombino, Candida Hofer: Books
AND – WHOA!!!! The new Elle Décor features Suzanne Rheinstein's pied a terre in NYC. It's beyond gorgeous. The gray murals are unbelievable. Just look at them!!! And those gilt French chairs. The velvet stools. SWOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This apartment also stars in her new book. I got my book today and it's a killer if you love Suzanne. First – this apartment is shown, along with her own L.A. house showing rooms never seen before. Her most famous job – the Virginia house - is also shown – the master bedroom has been UPDATED!!!!!! Many of the houses have been seen before, but each shows newly refurbished updates and never seen before rooms. The book is fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Her choices of antiques floors me – the chairs, the tables, the accessories, the mirrors, it's all mostly French, a little Swedish, a little Italian and a little English. GAWD. Kill me now!!!! I want this apartment. Seriously. I want this!!!!! AND Suzanne is scheduled for the Skirted Roundtable, along with David Easton, Haskell Harris, Kathryn Ireland, and Chris Madden. What a line up!!!! To order the Rheinstein book, go here:
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Re: Science and Religion
Dustnite wrote:, leroy, those are not incontrovertible facts. Just because you assert things, does not make it true. I have backed up everything I said with the direct data or with a starting point for research. You have not recipricated, neither has nexttodie. I don't expect you to as you're obviously a troll. Every one of your "alternative facts" are brought up so many times there's not only a wiki for each response as a starting point for investigation but there's several articles explaining the blatant misunderstanding that comes from each of your assertions. If you bothered to read anything into the subject, you would discover that. Instead, you have decided to conclude the answer before seeing the information.
anyone from this forum can confirm these 2 facts
1 It is a fact that the earths magnetic field is currently decaying
2 it is a fact that some people (both atheist and theist) are aware of fact 1 thanks to a Christian apologetic.
and (my personal opinion, not a fact) this should be interpreted as a positive contribution made by apologetics.
However, if you don't respond to any of these points, leroy. I'm done
because none of your replies is relevant to my point. I am not even a YEC, ...............all you have to do is grant those 2 uncontroversial facts, and let us know if you share the same opinion that I have.
apart form that, my personal opinion is that God should not be a taboo, if a teacher assigns a student to read a book from William Lane or Michael Behe I would argue that the assignment would have a positive effect in the students scientific formation. .................and I would argue the same with books form Richard Dawkins.
feel free to argue or to disagree, but if you what to argue that such assignment would ruin the student please provide some evidence.
"events with a zero probability happen all the time"
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:41 pm
Re: Science and Religion
thenexttodie wrote:Dustnite wrote:Typical troll post from next. Wiki pages are supposed to be non technical. Go down to the references if you want to see the actual sources cited. I also love that you call it a fucking joke at the same time citing another wiki.
yes that is my point, thanks for summarizing it
"events with a zero probability happen all the time"
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:43 pm
DustnitePosts: 531Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 9:11 pm Gender: Cake
Re: Science and Religion
thenexttodie wrote:You haven't debunked anything. You might think you have because rationalwiki is so poorly written. There are only a couple things in his list that are even debatable.
Obvious troll is obvious. Not only have you not cited any evidence to back up leroy's claims that you seem to agree with, you're perfectly content to remain ignorant on that subjects you claim knowledge of.
I gave you a starting point for research and you refuse to look deeper into it. Please present evidence for your claims if you find them so convincing.
"But this is irrelevant because in either case, whether a god exists or not, whether your God (with a capital G) exists or not, it doesn't matter. We both are, in either case, evolved apes. " - Nesslig20
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:25 pm
DustnitePosts: 531Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 9:11 pm Gender: Cake
Re: Science and Religion
leroy wrote:feel free to argue or to disagree, but if you what to argue that such assignment would ruin the student please provide some evidence.
Not only did I present evidence to the obvious harm that's being conducted by creationists, you presented nothing but conjecture and opinion. You and next seem content to think that "non-secular" reading material will reveal some scientific truths and I bet you have no idea what that even implies.
The point is that you will take something which I haven't even denied like the recession of the moon which is perfectly consistent with various dating methods and that geomagnetic reversals have happened and will continue to happen. You would of known that if you actually read the wiki entry and then looked into this for yourselves. The whole reason a wiki article exists for this is because creationists bring it up so often that it supports a young earth model. It doesn't. THE POINT IS you have set a preconceived conclusion based off your own myopic view of science and claim that a book written by bronze age sheepherders claims things that only work if you're capable of the mental gymnastics of interpreting it that way.
The point is you both are seriously either misinformed or you're both dishonest. It's most likely the latter. Furthermore and on topic to this thread, SCIENCE AND RELIGION have no problem working side by side. It is only creationists that have an issue. Any "truths" you gain from creationism are either half-truths or data manipulated to fit a creationist container of some kind and is only applied after the fact when something has been discovered. Any new information that doesn't agree with your preconceived conclusion is either ignored, manipulated, or quote mined to pieces until it is unintelligible.
The point is creationists have not added anything to the knowledge to the world. They have instead hindered it or used religion for monetary gain. Science on the other hand has given us a world where we can communicate halfway across the country through a computer screen and fly to anywhere we want in the world. Again, you have nothing to say on this matter except repeat creationist talking point bullshit.
Thanks for not responding to anything else I posted, I am now done with you and rest my case. You're obviously not here to argue in good conscience and please kindly go fuck yourself.
"But this is irrelevant because in either case, whether a god exists or not, whether your God (with a capital G) exists or not, it doesn't matter. We both are, in either case, evolved apes. " - Nesslig20
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:32 pm
MarsCydoniaPosts: 880Joined: Fri May 16, 2014 4:15 pm
Re: Science and Religion
leroy wrote:anyone from this forum can confirm these 2 facts
1. "Mary Curry died from aplastic anemia because she was an atheists, demons possessed her body and never prayed to keep them away"
2. "Mary Curry died from aplastic anemia because she was repeatedly exposed to radiation during her career"
So both atheists and theists could be made aware that Mary Curry died with 1. from aplastic anemia but to say 1. "should be intrepreted as a positive" simply because it got part of something right? I doubt anyone but a theist would make such an interpretation so there is absolutely no "should interpret it as a positive".
A teacher should assign a book from Michael Behe only if the science within it is sound (which limits the amount of Behe's books) and a book from William Lane Craig? I don't see any book of his that would provide a positive effect in a student's scientific formation.
"Slavery is morally ok" -
"I don't know how the burden of proof works in the mind of atheists but I don't have to prove my claims" -
Public information messages from the League of Reason's christians
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:00 pm
Re: Science and Religion
Dustnite wrote:leroy wrote:feel free to argue or to disagree, but if you what to argue that such assignment would ruin the student please provide some evidence.
this guy is worst than MarsCydonia
"events with a zero probability happen all the time"
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:16 pm
Re: Science and Religion
MarsCydonia wrote:leroy wrote:anyone from this forum can confirm these 2 facts
yes sure, only if the book is scientifically sound.,,,,,,,,,,the only point that I am making is that God should not be taboo in science class ... For example today it is relatively common for students to attend to debates on the existence of God,or on evolution vs creation, something that would have been vey extraordinary 15 years ago.
my opinion (might be wrong) is that it is good for students to attend to such debates ..........and do see how attending a debate or reading a book could ruin a student.
"events with a zero probability happen all the time"
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:31 pm
Re: Science and Religion
leroy wrote:the point is that at least some people learn about scientific facts and gain interest in science thanks to Christian evangelicals. in that sense people like Ken Ham are making positive contributions to science.
Well, your point is a bad one, for a number of reasons:
1: You learned science, some of which was bad, from unqualified people.
2: You could have learned a lot more and better science elsewhere (like... science class?), so it was time poorly spent.
3: Ken Ham and others are not contributing to science, but twisting it for own gains.
4: These people are basically trying to make the case that there is good and bad science (which there kinda is, now that they're around), and that you can take sides, and there's ideological angles to take on science, basically undermining it.
5: You're bad at science.
I know the sentiment you're trying to express, but it's simply just misguided.
You could try arguing the "reverse" (not quite, but bear with me):
"I learned some stuff about religion from atheists. They talked about God a lot, how his supposed traits make his existence a logical impossibility. But a lot of other stuff, too, like how Jesus might actually not have existed, how ridiculous the story of Noah is, about how the Jews wandered around the desert for 40 years, and how Moses was a child molester. At least I learned something about religion, so it's not all bad, yeah?"
You're learning some (partially) wrong stuff, from the wrong people, and for the wrong reasons.
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:40 pm
Re: Science and Religion
Gnug215 wrote:leroy wrote:the point is that at least some people learn about scientific facts and gain interest in science thanks to Christian evangelicals. in that sense people like Ken Ham are making positive contributions to science.
yes I would argue that atheist, (jesus mythisists, anti creationists etc.) had a positive contribution to my knowledge on what the bible says, who jesus was etc.
I don't know if atheist are good for religion, because I wouldn't know how to measure good but I do think that theist have more knowledge about their religion than they would have had without atheists.
"events with a zero probability happen all the time"
|Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:17 pm
Re: Science and Religion
leroy wrote:yes I would argue that atheist, (jesus mythisists, anti creationists etc.) had a positive contribution to my knowledge on what the bible says, who jesus was etc.
So in your world, it doesn't matter if you learn the wrong things for the wrong reasons, as long as you just learn SOMEthing?
|Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:50 am
Re: Science and Religion
Gnug215 wrote:leroy wrote:yes I would argue that atheist, (jesus mythisists, anti creationists etc.) had a positive contribution to my knowledge on what the bible says, who jesus was etc.
I don't know what you mean by wrong thing all I am saying is that any source that taught me something that I didn't know previously, would be a source that made a positive contribution in me. Regardless if the author of the source has the same world view that I have or not.
for example I learned from a video made by Aronra that reptiles are not a clade (like birds and mammals) therefore I have to admit this video made a positive contribution on me because I learned something.
"events with a zero probability happen all the time"
|Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:51 pm
Re: Science and Religion
leroy wrote:Gnug215 wrote:
Yes, I know what you're trying to get at, but your premise sits in a vacuum.
Yes, in theory, learning SOMEthing is better than nothing, but if you learn something that is wrong (and by wrong, I mean everything from straight out false, to something that is true but presented in a misleading context - like in your case, being taught by creationist ideologues that, say, the rotation of the Earth is slowing, and how that is evidence for Young Earth).
And again, if you've been taught these things by people with an agenda, then they made sure to present it in such a way as to win you over to their agenda. God only knows how many honest mistakes they made, and how many liberties they took with facts in order for them to make their facts fit with their beliefs.
What I'm saying is that not only may their (some, a few, most, all, whatever) teachings have been wrong, they might also have damaged your entire outlook on science.
Also, to repeat myself, you have to look at the time you spent learning these things, and consider if you could have spent your time better. Sure, if the alternative in your case to listening to fake preachers playing science would be sitting at home picking your nose, then sure, I guess at least you learned something.
It is clear to many of us here that your knowledge of science is lacking, and that your mindset towards it is... off, so, to put it bluntly: those bastards messed with your head.
I honestly don't think that's really a positive thing, but I will admit this much: I've been a somewhat similar situation to you. I was also preached to at a young age about some of these things, and I'm not entirely sure what the end result is. Maybe they, with all their faulty science, which gradually became evident over the years, started the process of taking me away from religion entirely?
So if you see it that way, that them teaching you crap science will lead you away from your primitive, emotionally based superstitions, then sure... it's a good thing.
|Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:07 pm
SparhafocPosts: 2648Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:48 am
Re: Science and Religion
leroy wrote:I cant speak for everybody, but I am personally aware of many scientific facts thanks to evangelical Christians.
Completely contrived.
Their belief in the Christian god provided them no material benefit in discovering any of these (although some of them are bunk). Rather, what gave them the insight there was their adherence to scientific method.
Now proceed to show us how many discoveries were made by prayer, invoking the gods, or reading the entrails of goats.
If you want to claim a discovery for your preferred religion, then you're going to need to show how their religion was intrinsic to the discovery, otherwise it's just a form of genetic fallacy.
"a reprehensible human being"
Beliefs are, by definition, things we don't know to be true.
|Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:22 am
SparhafocPosts: 2648Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:48 am
Re: Science and Religion
Leroy wrote:. The appendix is not useless
And on to address the elephant in the room.
None of these were discovered by Christians at all. All of them were discovered by scientists and published in science papers. Not one of them has anything to do with fundamentalist ravings. If you wish to claim otherwise, then it's time to put your money where your mouth is and replace your Gish Gallup with some citations.
Most of them are also wrong or misapprehended.
For example, mitochondrial Eve has nothing whatsoever to do with the raving lunatic notion of a single human female existing. Rather, mitochondrial Eve is just one of many women present at the time, whose descendants just so happened to be the ones who out-survived or out-bred the other human groups. You have to remember, Mitochondial Eve's daughters and grand-daughters had sex with people from the same tribe and other tribes, so it's not like only mitochondrial Eve's genes survive, rather that her mitochondria is the common ancestor of mitochondria present in women today. We picked the name 'Eve' because of mythology, not the other way round.
Living fossils have never been found - the word 'fossil' indicates that biological tissue has been replaced with minerals. Show me a single instance of a fossil ever exhibiting any sign of life whatsoever.
Comets can live for a thousand years, or a billion. How long is a piece of string?
The Sun was not too cold for liquid water 4bya - I was laughing while typing it, so ridiculous is the notion.
The magnetic field is decaying, but it's also being regenerated.
Half-lives were discovered by scientists who have known about half-lives and the decay of C14 for decades. Creationists still don't get this. We know when to use carbon-dating, and when to use the dozens of other dating techniques we've developed over the last century. Creationists, of course, know nothing whatsoever relevant except believing some propaganda proponent that carbon dating is an anti-Biblical heresy.
Junk DNA is still junk, and will always remain so. Just because the role of some DNA is unknown, doesn't mean that it's junk DNA. Rather, as per usual, Creationists have got it arse about tit and think that any unexplained DNA must be junk DNA, whereas it has a specific meaning in scientific parlance and that is Non-coding DNA. There is a lot of non-coding DNA, and whether we call it junk or non-coding, so it remains. Creationists believe what they want to believe, whether that's about science denial or the promulgation of fantastical myth from our species' infancy.
The Moon is very gradually moving away from the Earth and the Earth's rotation is very gradually slowing down, and neither of these have anything to do with Creationists ever at all in any way. Rather, they result from the observations of the movement of planetary bodies for which you Christians used to imprison people... cough Galileo cough.
Finally, the word 'vestigial' doesn't and never has meant 'useless' - another all too typical Creationist canard.
Personally, Leroy, I think you can bring a lot more to the discussion than uncritically borrowed propaganda someone regurgitated into your mouth. If not, fine, you're going to learn the hard way why you've bought into a big fucking con.
"a reprehensible human being"
Beliefs are, by definition, things we don't know to be true.
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Local supergroup to play Kafe Kerouac this Saturday
The guys behind SoHud Music Collective have been talking about going to a cabin to record an album together for quite some time. They finally did it. Joey Hebdo, Jesse Michael Barr, Mike James and The Floorwalkers' Jonathan Elliott combined under the name The Middle Rats and retreated to Hocking Hills with producer Jay Alton. From the sounds of their Monkees-like theme song, they had a lot of fun, and now we can too. Although they already had their album release party last weekend, they'll play again this Saturday at Kafe Kerouac, 2250 N. High St., from 8 p.m. to 9:30. It's the local supergroup's last show until a June 9 appearance in Zanesville. So seriously consider hitting up this gig and the Joshua P. James show at Kobo this Saturday.
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The company is exhibiting at the Detroit auto show this year after a hiatus.
In the last three years, dealers have spent $1.6 billion worldwide on new or updated facilities. Executives expect global dealers to spend another $1.6 billion on their stores during the next three years.
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Executives expect continued growing demand in the United States, too. Though there will be fewer stores, the aim is to significantly increase sales per dealership, said Andy Goss, president of Jaguar Land Rover North America. There are 245 U.S. dealerships today, and about half are dualed. The store count should drop below 200 by sometime in 2016, Goss said.
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Old Salem Ma. Jail
Posted 10 February 2005 - 05:16 AM
First off It was built in 1813 and until it's closing (I believe in the late 90's but I am not possitice of that) was the oldest operating jail in the country. The jail has a rich history of hauntings. You are suppose to be able to see lights in there still, even though the electric has been off since it's closing. It's said you can hear talking and screams comming from within also. It is clailed that you can sometimes see prisioners standing in the yard also. It is ajacent to The Howard Street Cemetery. One of the most Haunted cemeteries in Salem Ma. Supposedly haunted by Giles Corey along with many others. There is still a trap door in the dinning room where there were many hanging that took place when the jail was first open. It is a beautiful building that has sat empty for quit a few years now and the city is starting to now make plans for it's use. (YEA!!!!)
Some of the ideas were Condos (of coures and I so hope not!), A Monopoly Museum, ( Monopoly was invented by a 16 year old Salem High School student and Parker Brothers picked it up), A Veterans Headquaters, Barns and Noble Book Store (???), Jail Museum and Tourist Attraction (hummm, kinda liked that one), A Multiculturial Center, and A reseraunt, (this is really a cool idea!!!) each cell is set up as a seperat Dinning Cell, waiter and waitress's are dressed as Prison Guards, meals have names like Jail Bird Chicken and Misdemeanor Appetizers. The person who gets their dessert that has a file in gets their meal free.
There was an other meeting tonight with the Marketing Agency that was hired by the city and an other one planned for March 3rd. A finial metting is planned for March 9th and the city is hoping to put the property out to bid later this year.
So that was the Artical in The Salem News. I really want to see something other than Condo's, something public, it's such an awsome building with so much history to make it into condo's would be such a waste and we really don't need any more condos in Salem.
I'll keep you updated with any new info that comes out. Sounds like this could get interesting!
Posted 10 February 2005 - 06:53 AM
Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:45 AM
Keep us posted sounds good.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:34 PM
Hope they make a tourist attraction out of the old jail, or something the public can visit.
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The Booksellers at Laurelwood will host former Vice President Al Gore, signing "The Future: Six Drivers of Global Change," Monday, Feb. 18, at noon at the bookstore, 387 Perkins Road Extended. Visit thebooksellersatlaurelwood.com.
The University of Memphis will host the Freedom Ball and Mahogany Awards as part of its Black History Month celebration Friday, Feb. 15, at 7 p.m. in the University Center ballroom, 499 University St. Visit memphis.edu/multiculturalaffairs or call 678-2054.
The Racquet Club of Memphis will host the U.S. National Indoor Tennis Championships Saturday, Feb. 16, through Feb. 24 at Racquet Club, 5111 Sanderlin Ave. Buy tickets at memphistennis.com or call 765-4401.
Greater Memphis Chamber will hold the fifth annual Move it Memphis 5K/10K Saturday, Feb. 16, at 10 a.m. starting in W.C. Handy Park, 200 Beale St. All proceeds benefit the chamber. Visit memphischamber.com.
The University of Memphis will host a tour of Slave Haven Underground Railroad Museum as part of its Black History Month celebration Friday, Sat. 16, at 1 p.m. at the museum, 826 N. Second St. Visit memphis.edu/multiculturalaffairs or call 678-2054.
Rhodes College will screen the documentary "My Mic Sounds Nice: A Truth About Women in Hip Hop" Monday, Feb. 18, at 5 p.m. in Rhea Lounge of the Briggs Student Center on campus, 2000 North Parkway. Visit rhodes.edu.
Christian Brothers University will host present Soul Food Day & Art Exhibit as part of its Black History Month celebration Tuesday, Feb. 19, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. in Alfonso Dining Hall on campus, 650 East Parkway S. Visit cbu.edu.
Memphis Rotary Club will meet Tuesday, Feb. 19, at noon at the University Club of Memphis, 1346 Central Ave. Dr. Roland Gray, medical director of the Tennessee Medical Foundation, will discuss prescription drug abuse. Cost is $18. R.S.V.P. to Taylor Hughes at email@example.com.
Saint Francis Hospital-Memphis will host "Young at Heart … New Advances in Heart Care," presented by Dr. Haris Zafarullah, Tuesday, Feb. 19, at noon at the hospital, 5959 Park Ave. Visit saintfrancishosp.com.
A Mid-South Regional Greenprint and Sustainability Plan open house and community meeting will be held Tuesday, Feb. 19 at 5:30 p.m. at Memphis Botanic Garden, 750 Cherry Road. The greenprint is a guide and plan for using greenspace to build regional connections through parks, bike lanes, walking paths and more.
The Booksellers at Laurelwood will host author Cory Doctorow, signing "Homeland," Tuesday, Feb. 19, at 6 p.m. at the bookstore, 387 Perkins Road Extended. Visit thebooksellersatlaurelwood.com.
Talk Shoppe will meet Wednesday, Feb. 20, from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. at the Better Business Bureau, 3693 Tyndale Ave. Sandy Wright of WrightEdge Solutions will present "Getting Organized." Cost is free. Visit talkshoppe.biz.
Greater Memphis Chamber and Duncan-Williams Inc. will host Job Fuel: 2013 Conference on Job Creation Wednesday, Feb. 20, from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. at Memphis Cook Convention Center, 255 N. Main St. Jim Clifton, chairman and CEO of Gallup, and Dr. Gene Huang, chief economist and vice president at FedEx, will discuss what leaders need to know about the future of job creation. Cost is $50 per person or $450 per table of 10. Visit memphischamber.com.
Sales and Marketing Society of the Mid-South will meet Wednesday, Feb. 20, from 11:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the Crescent Club, ninth floor, 6075 Poplar Ave. Kate Armitage of Memphis International Raceway will present "The Biggest Industry No One Considers and How It Affects Your Bottom Line." Cost in advance is free for members and $25 for nonmembers; cost at the door is $30. Visit sms-midsouth.org.
Dixon Gallery and Gardens will host a Munch and Learn lecture titled "Lust for Life: My Life has Value," presented by Caritas Village Artist in Residence Frank D. Robinson, Wednesday, Feb. 20, from noon to 1 p.m. at Dixon, 4339 Park Ave. Cost is free with gallery admission. Visit dixon.org.
Rhodes College will host real estate developer and philanthropist Henry Turley, presenting "Building a Better Memphis" as part of its Memphis Centered series Wednesday, Feb. 20, at 5:30 p.m. in the Barret Library room 051 on campus, 2000 North Parkway. Turley will discuss his commitment to the city and vision for its future. Cost is free. Visit rhodes.edu.
The Buckman Performing Arts Center at St. Mary's School will host an opening reception for "Solitude: New Works by Debbie Likley Pacheco" Friday, Feb. 15, from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. at Buckman, 60 Perkins Road Extended. Visit buckmanartscenter.com.
Germantown Performing Arts Centre will present saxophonist Grace Kelly as part of its Jazz in the Box series Friday, Feb. 15, at 8:30 p.m. at GPAC, 1801 Exeter Road. Buy tickets at gpacweb.com.
The Booksellers at Laurelwood will host Jeff Hulett as part of its Winter Bistro Music Series Saturday, Feb. 16, from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the bookstore, 387 Perkins Road Extended. Visit thebooksellersatlaurelwood.com.
IRIS Orchestra will present "Shaham Plays Brahms," featuring violinist Gil Shaham, Saturday, Feb. 16, at 8 p.m. at Germantown Performing Arts Centre, 1801 Exeter Road. Buy tickets at irisorchestra.com.
Germantown Performing Arts Centre will present jazz singer Jane Monheit with guest Mark O'Connor Sunday, Feb. 17, at 7 p.m. at GPAC, 1801 Exeter Road. Buy tickets at gpacweb.com.
Rhodes College will host Tony Award-winning composer and lyricist Jason Robert Brown, presenting "Building a Bridge: Composition for Musical Theatre" Monday, Feb. 18, at 7:30 p.m. in the McCallum Ballroom of the Bryan Campus Life Centre on campus, 2000 North Parkway. Cost is free. Visit rhodes.edu.
Poplar Pike Playhouse will present "The Wiz" Thursday, Feb. 21, through March 9 at the theater, 7653 Old Poplar Pike. Visit ppp.org for times and tickets.


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^...? I didn't say anything about the jokes being bad.Anyways, I'm close in getting the Platinum trophy. I only have to get through the Survivor and Survivor+ modes and do some stuff along with doing a match in 'Survivors' and everything should be done.Oh and... fuck you too Agent D.( ̄へ ̄)
I didn't really have any bugs that I can recall either. Obviously with a game this elaborate, some people are gonna have them and some aren't, but my experience felt very solid, and watching my brother play through the entire game, his was as well. And even then, glitches never really bother me all that much, but that's just my personal experience.Vis-a-vis shooting and enemies-- yes, I enjoyed fighting both immensely. Fighting humans involved totally different tactics than Infected, and I liked that. And like I said, it comes down to story versus systems. Some sequences in the game "broke rules" in order to change up the experience. I know Rob didn't like those (an Infected spots you no matter what, you're hanging upside down with unlimited ammo, etc), but I thought they were excellent and kept you on your toes. While I'm sorry others didn't have the same experience, this game is, again, easily one of my favorites I've ever played. If you didn't like the story until the end, that's totally cool, but I was 100% invested. The acting was outstanding, the voicing was perfect, and I was completely invested in all of the characters. Where ND really succeeded was including so many different ages and kinds of characters, which basically ensured that no matter who you are, you can relate to someone. As someone very close to my two brothers, Code: [Select] Sam and Henry's arc left me literally stunned. When I watched my brother play through the game this week, I could see that he was moved by it as well. If you look at it as "THIS IS JUST A ZOMBIE STORY," sure, that kind of reductionism will make you value it less. But The Walking Dead is "JUST A ZOMBIE STORY," and everyone seems to adore that. Really it's about how well you get to know these characters, and in this regard, TLOU is an unmitigated success. I will remember the characters in the game forever, I enjoyed the gameplay, and I adored the fact that Naughty Dog didn't feel the need to spell out absolutely everything in the game. Naughty Dog made a world that I felt like I knew incredibly well despite only seeing certain sides of it.So yeah, my GOTY all up in here. Totally cool if others don't feel that way, but I'll argue dissenters into oblivion :)
Sam and Henry's arc left me literally stunned. When I watched my brother play through the game this week, I could see that he was moved by it as well.
Kenny's family tragedy > Henry and Sam tragedy.
What difficulty were you playing on? Didn't die during that once. I had more trouble with the bloater fight, mainly because I was trying to find ways around it.
You have unlimited ammo when hanging upside down. I've done it twice and seen someone else do it. You also have unlimited when Joel gets injured.
Code: [Select]You have unlimited ammo when hanging upside down. I've done it twice and seen someone else do it. You also have unlimited when Joel gets injured.
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Like most of the geneaworld, I have been eagerly awaiting release day of the 1940 U.S. Census. I wasn't active with family research 10 years ago when the 1930 census was released so I feel a bit like the new kid in school - excited to get started yet a little apprehensive about where to begin. So I'm going to start easy and focus on finding someone who can help me in my quest - my mother!
My mother was 12 in 1940 and due to her parents' divorce, at some point she lived with her great aunt and uncle in a different city than either of her parents. But she's not 100% sure where she was in 1940 - was she still with her mother, had she moved to Berkeley with her aunt, or was she back in Fresno with her mother and step father? So I'm going to help her figure that out!
She remembers the address of the home she lived in with her grandfather's sister, Anna Teresa Fitzgerald Sronce, as 1441 Milvia Street, Bereley, California. Lo and behold, when I received the 1950 death certificate for Anna, that was the address listed and it showed that she had lived "in this place" for 30 years. However, the 1930 census shows Anna and Robert Sronce in Oakland. My guess is that I'll find them on Milvia Street in 1940 but we'll have to wait to know for sure.
Once I find the Sronce family, I'm hoping my mom will be listed with them. If she's not there, I'll have to start searching in Fresno to see if she's listed with her mother or, perhaps, her grandparents. I'm hoping that once I find her, I'll spark some memories for her and she'll be able to put more pieces of the puzzle together.
Who do you hope to find in the 1940 census?
|My mom - Geraldine Martin
She looks to be about 14 years old


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CANTICUM NOVUM was formed in 1984, in
Bogota City, Colombia, by Psychologist and Professor Dr. Ramiro
Alvarez Cuadros. For many years the choir was conducted by Master
Luis Torres Zuleta.
Professionals of the most diverse disciplines make up the choir,
united by a passion for Gregorian Chant and the desire to study
it seriously and to make it known.
The chorus name was taken from the first words of Psalm 97 that
begins: CANTATE DOMINO CANTICUM NOVUM. The subtitle "Schola
Cantorum Bogotensis" refers to Bogota City, where it was
founded and currently functions.
The chorus interprets this Gregorian chant, named for Pope Saint
Gregory the Great, using the notation of the 11th century that
consists of neumes or groups of notes arranged on staves of four
lines. It recognizes the rhythmic technique of the Abbey of Saint
Peter of Solesmes, the institution to which Pope Saint Pius X
entrusted the restoration of chant for the liturgy (1903).
"At first view, Gregorian Chant might seem monotonous. Without
doubt it disconcerts our modern ears accustomed perhaps to other
more spectacular but less profound types of music. In reality
the Gregorian repertoire is a complex field that taps many centuries
of music history. It is a dichotomous world that mysteriously
unites delirious enthusiasm with the most delicate private nuances.
A paradoxical world in which the music pervades the silence."
(Abbey of Solesmes - Internet Site).
"Gregorian art is fully able to provide magnificent serenity,
concentrated passion and ineffable sweetness. It is music devoted
to serving ideals that are of faith; that is to say, the most
intense form and source of spiritual energy" (Bernard Champigneulle).
With this in mind, Canticum Novum has presented instructional
concerts at universities and has participated in choral music
festivals. It is within the Liturgy of the Church, however, (in
Masses, in Requiems, at an Ordination, for a wedding anniversary,
etc.), that the Spirit inspires the singers to give their best.
Without doubt, Gregorian Chant was written for use in the Liturgy
of the Church.
Canticum Novum Members
Luis Eduardo Alvarez Ramírez
Humberto Celis
Ramiro Alvarez Cuadros
Alberto Luzardo
Carlos Eduardo Martínez Villamizar
Guillermo Eugenio Ortega Llano
Carlos Hernando Prieto Suarez
Francisco Rocha Pereira ( + qepd)
Pedro Ignacio Rodriguez Velandia
Alfonso Segura Barrera
Fagua Alvarez Flórez
Carlos Eduardo Martínez Villamizar
Luis Torres Zuleta
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and Technic | Canticum
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Diving in Port Elizabeth
Scuba diving : Diving in South Africa : Diving in Port Elizabeth
This article is a travel topic
This article is intended to provide the already qualified Scuba diver with information which will help to plan dives in the waters around Port Elizabeth, whether as a local resident or a visitor. Information is provided without prejudice, and is not guaranteed accurate or complete. Use it at your own risk.
General Topography
Port Elizabeth is situated on the west side of Algoa Bay, which is a wide indentation on the South African east coast, some 683 km east of the Cape of Good Hope. The bay is bounded in the west by Cape Recife and in the east by Cape Padrone, and much of the shoreline is sandy beaches. The greter metropolitan area extends some distance to the west of Cape Recife, and this rocky part of the coastline includes a number of the most popular dive sites.
Climate, Weather and Sea conditions
"The Windy City" has a subtropical climate with light rain throughout the year. The area lies between the winter rainfall, Mediterranean climate zones of the Western Cape and the summer rainfall regions of eastern South Africa. The proximity to the ocean has a moderating effect on the climate, so winters are cool but mild and summers are warm but considerably less humid and hot than more northerly parts of South Africa's east coast. Jan Max: 25 °C, Min: 18 °C; Jul Max: 20 °C, Min: 9 °C
The Marine Ecology
Port Elizabeth is within the warm temperate Agulhas bioregion, which extends from Cape Point to the Mbashe River. It is some 360km from Mbashe mouth and 660km from Cape Point, so is somewhat towards the warmer side of the region. Upwelling on the south coast of South Africa is largely driven by the Agulhas current and the continental shelf. This form of upwelling forces cold deep water up onto the continental shelf, but not necessarily above the thermocline. In the region east of the Agulhas bank, wind enhanced upwelling, occurring mainly in summer, augments the current driven upwelling bringing the colder deeper waters to the surface. This enhances biological productivity by supply of nutrients to the euphotic zone (where plants have sufficient light to flourish) which fuels phytoplankton production, and rocky shores that are supplied with the nutrient rich water support rich algal biomass. The annual chokka spawning takes place largely in this region.
No special equipment is required for most of the sites. Wet or semi-dry suits will be adequate for most divers most of the time, though for those who wish to do multiple dives of longer duration, or are sensitive to the cold, a dry suit is recommended. If you intend to dive autonomously, rather than follow thr divemaster, a DSMB (Delayed/deployable Surface Marker Buoy) and reel or spool is recommended, so the boat will know where you are surfacing, particularly if there is a current running. This will also help alert other vessels of your proximity to the surface so they can avoid you in time.
Nitrox is available at some filling stations, but your choice of mix may be limited.
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Annual Noordhoek Wildside Dive Festival
The Noordhoek Dive Festival is held every June at the Noordhoek dive and boating club on Marine drive, which has a slipway a short distance to the east of Cape Recife, just outside of Summerstrand, Port Elizabeth, towards Schoenmakerskop.
Divers from all over South Africa gather for a three-day festival of Scuba diving. Several boats make strictly scheduled launches several times per day depending on conditions, and dives are generally limited to 30 minutes to allow schedules to be kept.
Dive operators and other sponsors from Port Elizabeth and surrounding areas support this festival of diving which was started in 1999 and has grown to be the best known and probably largest event of its kind in South Africa. The organisors and crew are all unpaid volunteers, and the takings go to charities: deposits are not refundable.
The festival is well organised, but can be disrupted by adverse weather conditions.
Features offered include:
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Bell Buoy
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Chelsea North
Devil's Reef
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The Doddington
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The SS Fidela
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The Haerlem
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The Inchcape Rock
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Tango flapper dress 20s in crushed velvet
Added Sep 22, 2012
by Irina Schwab
Aylesbury, Unite...
I made this dress for the Kop Hill Climb event, it is an event which takes place since the 20s! and involves classic cars trying to climb a hill!
The organisers encourage the spectators to wear 20s clothes, so this is how I decided once and for all to comply!
I made this dress following a very old pattern for a 20s Tango dress and I made a few adjustments. The design of the dress is meant to draw attention to the dancer's legs (see the tail and the front and back scarves. It is also meant to make ladies look taller! (Oh, I need that!)
I used crushed velvet in teal and loads of accessories, such as hand sewn sequinned band around the waist and on the head band. I also applied a vintage brooch to add more glamour. I have added teal lace alongside the hem. Voila!
Material Notes
crushed velvet, sequins, vintage brooch
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Sep 26, 2012, 12.12 AMby servareginae
Very pretty dress with a lot of nice details. …gorgeous color. …and interesting car.
Sep 22, 2012, 11.25 PMby jennyrecorder
Gorgeous, my favourite fashion era!
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Sep 23, 2012, 07.32 AMby Irina Schwab
Thank you. I had to make one, originals dating that decade would cost a fortune!
Sep 22, 2012, 05.02 PMby Irina Schwab
I have just posted this project and has already disappeared?
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|Sunshine Games Poppy Parker
by Integrity Toys
This doll doesn't even have a name yet. With the outpouring of Poppy dolls this year, I haven't had a chance to name the ones that I've gotten. And yet, here she is, maddeningly trying to fit into a skimpy rococo style dress so she could be the first doll featured on this year's Twelve Dolls of Christmas.
What does rococo style have to do with Christmas? I don't know. This particular doll desperately wanted to show off her new garb and I obliged. It's a step up to the swimsuit she came in originally, I guess....I think I'll name her Basi. A new name will be her Christmas present from me.
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BMW Performance Part Details:
- M Carbon-Ceramic Brake System
- M Performance Exhaust System
- Aalcantara leather steering wheel and race display
- Carbon trim throughout interior and stainless steel pedals
- Carbon mirror caps and M Performance high-gloss black front grille
With the Holidays just around the corner, BMW has just released new aftermarket items for the M6 (Coupe, Convertible and Gran Coupe) models and M5 Sedan owner's wish list.
Performance upgrades are the highlight of the M accessories lineup. These include an M Carbon- Ceramic Brake System, which features brake rotors made from carbon ceramic composite, which are able to withstand higher heat resistance while reducing weight (by 42.8 lbs) and prolonging resistance to wear. These are offered in conjunction with 20in M light-alloy wheels and features 16.1in front brake discs and 15.6in rear brake discs. These further ensure a more sporty and dynamic driving experience with better stopping power and less weight.
When not using the M Brake System, acceleration sounds even more incredible thanks to an M Performance Exhaust System, developed jointly with Akropovic (an official partner of BMW Motorsport). As expected from this high-end exhaust manufacturer the entire system is made from titanium, which reduces weight by more than 22 lbs while also resisting heat and corrosion. The freer breathing setup will also add performance to back up the improved exhaust note.
While you hear and feel the performance upgrades on your newly accessorized M5 or M6, the interior gets some nice additions as well. An alcantara leather steering wheel and race display are available. The display is integrated into the top center of the steering wheel rim and provides the drive with important information such as a gearshift indicator, lateral and longitudinal acceleration values and laptimer. Additionally, carbon trim for the shift lever of the double clutch transmission, carbon interior trim, stainless steel pedals and M Performance floor mats are available. The exterior can also be customized with carbon mirror caps and M Performance high-gloss black front grille.
If you already own one of these powerful Ultimate Driving Machines why not make it stand out from the crowd with some M performance and style upgrades?


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"To this day, pro-se plaintiffs harass large corporations with incomprehensible filings requiring responses that you first have to figure out what the heck they're talking about before you can even start to respond with a legal argument."If a meritless lawsuit is filed the Court is supposed to deal with it. In my experience pro se plaintiffs may have a good case but get bogged down with civil procedure. So what would you propose, barring pro se filers? As far as corporations paying off pro se plaintiffs with meritless claims that is a myth put out by shills like the Chamber of Commerce. Next you are going tell tell me that old saw about MacDonalds coffee lawsuit. Meritless cases do not make it trial and run away jury awards get knocked out or down in the appellate courts yet the corporations keep up the same old whine about how they are getting raped in the courts. Sort of like Newt claiming the federal courts are packed with judicial activists when we have the most conservative judiciary possible and a conservative majority in Supreme Court that is out of touch with reality. And don't even ask me about insurance companies, what a bunch of crooks.
And when you turn on the TV and see police walking up to peaceful protesters sitting on the gournd, and spraying them with pepperspray, and then just walking away, those images can go a long way to reinforce that image.
Yawn. Yawn + 1 for my pal Falcon Jimmy. You make your argument well, but I'm beginning to think it's the only argument you know how to make. We get it-- you don't like digitally delivered law education. So, why do you bother to post here? No one else will let you play in their sandbox?
One way to lessen the power of the ABA would be to start a "competing" accreditation body and then LOBBY hard all the states to have members of schools that received their stamp of approval to take their state's bar. This body would accredit online/distance learning schools - in my dream world


text: Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - BULGARIA--but not strictly TEFL Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today! Job Discussion Forums"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!" FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in BULGARIA--but not strictly TEFL Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Europe Forum View previous topic :: View next topic Author Message SelyerJoined: 04 Feb 2003Posts: 62Location: Poland Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject: BULGARIA--but not strictly TEFL Hi all. I have a job offer to be a private teacher/tutor in Sofia next year teaching some missionary kids. Having never been to Bulgaria before, I was just wondering how those of you who have lived, worked and/or travelled around there found it. Do you think it might be possible to find a few TEFL hours here and there to help supplement the income I'd be making teaching the missionary kids? From what little I know of Bulgaria, it doesn't seem like there's much extra money floating around for Bulgarians to be splurging on things like English lessons. I'm going for a week in February to check things out (to be "wined and dined" or whatever the Bulgarian equivalent might be!) Any advice you'd like to share would be welcome. Thanks! Oh and yes, in case anyone's curious, I'm fully qualified...M.Ed, CELTA(B pass), 10 years teaching experience, blah blah blah. Back to top scot47Joined: 10 Jan 2003Posts: 15323 Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:16 am Post subject: bg work Bulgarophilia is one of my problems. I cannot work there because salaries are so low. Currently in Bulgaria teachers earn around 110 Euro a month in state schools. Rate for private lessons are around 5BGL to max 10BGL an hour (2BGL approx = 1Euro) You cannot afford to take a teaching job in Bulgaria. The situation has changed drastically in the last few years. Life is materially not easy and there is little effective demand for native speaker teachers of English. {Remember Economics 101 ? "Effective demand is naked want clothed in purchasing power."} Back to top scot47Joined: 10 Jan 2003Posts: 15323 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: sofia The American School is called "The American College in Sofia". If you have qualified teacher status they may be interested in your sevices. How are you getting a work permit ? BG is still protectionist about jobs and will be until accession to the EU allows other EU nationals freedom of movement. When you are in BG get out of Sofia. Away from the capital it is a diferent - and better - country. Back to top scot47Joined: 10 Jan 2003Posts: 15323 Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject: jobs in BG Having just spent a vacation at home in BG, I can confirm that foreigners will have difficulties in getteing a job that pays enough to live. I was offered jobs but I had to turn them down because the salaries on offer were just not enough. And I have the luxury of a house, permanent resident staus and competence in Bulgarian. Will it change as BG continues on the path to EU membership in 2007 ? Who knows ? Back to top scot47Joined: 10 Jan 2003Posts: 15323 Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: Treti Mart Third of March : Bulgarian Independence Day ! Greetings to all Bulgars, Bulgarians and Bulgarophiles. On this let's remember the long struggle of Bulgaria to emerge from the Ottoman Yoke and rejoin the family of independent nations. Back to top scot47Joined: 10 Jan 2003Posts: 15323 Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 9:53 am Post subject: hols in BG Soon off to Bulgaria for my loooooooong summer hols. A chance to reflect on the economic injustice that condemns me and many others to work in the Middle East while wishing we were back home. 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Alfresco Partners with Adobe to Deliver Content Services for Adobe LiveCycle Enterprise Suite
OEM Agreement to Help Customers Deliver Content-Rich Applications Across the Extended Enterprise
LONDON, June 17, 2008 – Alfresco Software today announced a new technology partnership with Adobe Systems Incorporated to provide additional content services capabilities to Adobe® LiveCycle™ Enterprise Suite (ES). Under the terms of the agreement, Adobe will embed the Alfresco Enterprise Content Management (ECM) software into Adobe LiveCycle ES. The relationship represents a shared vision for a new class of applications that utilize flexible, open source and Web 2.0 standards that deliver rich and engaging enterprise experiences.
Adobe LiveCycle ES is an integrated family of software for automating processes that help businesses and governments more effectively engage with customers, citizens, partners, and suppliers. Alfresco uses the innovation of open source to provide a highly scalable enterprise-class content management system. Through the addition of Alfresco's content management technologies to Adobe LiveCycle ES, customers can rapidly develop and deploy content-rich engagement applications that blend data capture, information assurance, document output, process management and content services.
"Alfresco's open source business model and ability to support Adobe® Flex™ and Web 2.0 technologies will allow our customers to take full advantage of advanced capabilities to deliver content-rich engagement applications even faster," said Rob Tarkoff, senior vice president of Business Productivity Business Unit at Adobe. "By bringing together our technologies, now our customers can quickly create a business process or application with the LiveCycle technology platform that is deeply integrated with enterprise content."
The Alfresco ECM platform delivers people-centric content management and collaboration tools enabling users to mashup and present internal and external content, and bring social computing capabilities into the workplace, while retaining choice over the selection of best of breed open source tools and ensuring enterprise-level security and control.
"A growing amount of content is now being created and shared using Web 2.0 tools," said John Powell, CEO, Alfresco Software. "We have developed an enterprise content management system that is entirely built using an open architecture which allows companies to easily take advantage of this new information paradigm. Adobe's decision to embed Alfresco in the Adobe LiveCycle Enterprise Suite validates not only Alfresco's momentum but also the acceptance of open source throughout the industry. Adobe and Alfresco are revolutionizing the way in which content can be created, managed and deployed."


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The new E! show "Pop Fiction" sounds like a complete rip off of another pitch -- "Celebrities Strike Back." Oh, by the way -- it was pitched by Anna Nicole Smith more than three years ago and there could be a lawsuit.
"Pop Fiction," produced by Ashton Kutcher's Katalyst Television, debuted last night. It seems identical to a treatment obtained by TMZ that Anna Nicole registered with the Writers Guild in 2004. Now get this -- in 2004, Anna Nicole and Howard K. Stern met with Jeff Shore and Jay James, both programming execs for E!. They pitched the show and sent Shore the treatment.
We're also told Anna Nicole and Howard K. met with then E! Prez Ted Harbert in 2004 and also raised the show.
Ashton's show sounds like a carbon of Anna's treatment -- "...what happens if Anna Nicole Smith and other celebrities turn the tables and capitalize off of the overzealous media? What if the next big supposed scandal is not a scandal at all? What if everything is staged, but the media (and the public) don't know it?" It continues, Anna Nicole and other celebrity guests take aim at the media and push all the limits."
That's Ashton Kutcher's show and we're told Howard K. has already threatened suit. What is really pissing him off is that he and Anna had multiple meetings with E!. Two months ago, Stern spoke with E! again on behalf of the estate and the network seemed intrigued by making Larry Birkhead the celeb to do the first prank and then host the show. Ultimately Jay James said it just wouldn't work. Oh really?
UPDATE: A rep for E! tells us, "'Pop Fiction' is a program independently created and developed by Ashton Kutcher's company, Katalyst. 'Pop Fiction' is not based on any idea or concept that may have been pitched to E! by any other party."
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Ginger spoke today about how some dogs are just "hyper-motivated" to meet other dogs, which can look like aggressive behavior, while others truly do want to injure the other dog. She said the methods we will be using will work on both types of dogs.
amazincc wrote:Why not try and teach Inara to "relax" around a very calm and composed dog first?
TheRedQueen wrote:Just remember the name of the class, and relax yourself too...hard to do when you're stressed
pitbullmamaliz wrote: Chaos. From everybody. So barriers were left in place. After that Inara just couldn't calm herself. I think she was just tired and had passed way over her threshold.
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if its not too much trouble. saturday 8pm for two, see you then
if its not too much trouble. saturday 8pm for two, see you then
lol. It is REALLY fancy, and expensive. John Eden's freakish appearance had us turned away from Hakkasan - it was only Mrs Droid playing the honeymoon card that got us in.
ah, right, they'll seat me next to the toilets then.
You'll definitely need a shirt - and shoes. Sufi could probably get you in.
I love everything about the last two pages of chat.
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Anyone found half decent bread in this supposed food mecca?
that place on broadway market is good tbf but its the only one ive found that i like.
Actually just went out and found a good loaf by this lot.funny cos two years ago I was selling their pastries (and giving away the rest to a certain homeless dissensus poster)
i like the dark rye loaves you get from the jewish bakeries on brick lane a lot, though they only seem to do it on particular days (which i never seem to remember).
ayres is pretty good but the spelt is a bit much
the old post office in brixton
Here's a thing about immigrant communities and "cheap eats" lists that's tangentially relevant to this thread:
Personal thoughts: it's interesting but it seems to be conflating two issues, i) the ghettoization of immigrant food as inherently cheap-and-cheerful and ii) general wage pressure on low-end restaurant staff.
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Traditional bakeries are a rare bread.
I like the look of both oklava and yosma based on their instagrams but has anyone here visited either in their actual physical form?
food in london is now terrible. maybe there was a brief moment when this wasnt the case, it's hard to say but it's 100% true now. the posh kids took over food just like they did with dance music. loads of people chasing private equity and scaling up.
using media contacts to get free advertising for food which looks the part but doesnt taste the part.
More detail needed - I'm living in Brum now, so only periodically get to sample the delights of the London food scene. The London restaurants the media cover don't sound very inspiring, mostly more of the same simple/rote cooking elevated to high prices.
On the plus side, I love Xi'an Impression at Holloway Road, and, er.....I had a nice bao in Croydon.
Which major cities are better though?


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One can only imagine the anguish of the parents of 18-year-old Columbia South Carolina student Ryan Schallenberger went through in making the gutwrenching decision to turn their son in to police. The angry young man had ten pounds of ammonium nitrate at his home, and planned to make several bombs to kill his fellow students at Chesterfield High School.
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Reginald Stark, 47 was arrested at gunpoint by Kern County Sheriff's deputies responding to a report of a burglary in progress in the 100 block of Harrison on April 26.
He pleaded not contest to one count of commercial burglary and was sentenced Wednesday.
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Sharing Memories - St. George, UT (63-64)
For Those Places Thursday this week I posted a photo of our house in St. George, Utah, where we moved in the Fall of 1963 while in the U.S. Air Force. We were there a little less than a year, but it seems much more important then that short time period, because of the events of the period.
Until I began writing this, I had forgotten that the Kennedy assassination occurred at this time (Nov 1963). I remember hearing it on the radio in the orderly room, at my desk, but I had not recalled whether we were in Winslow or St. George. It had to have been St. George.
The singular big event of this period, however, was, of course, the arrival of Allison in Mar 1964, just about 48 years ago (in a couple of weeks). (Nancy did all the work, of course...) Here we are a couple of months after that.
That will do for today. Thanks for joining us on this journey. More to come, of course.
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List of Useful Finding Aid References
| General References and Guides
This article is part of a series.
|Introduction to the General References and Guides
|Overview of Databases and Indexes
|Database and Index Types
|List of Specific Databases and Indexes
|Library Catalogs
|List of Useful Finding Aid References
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American Biographical Index (ABI). New York City: K. G. Saur, 1993.
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Bell, Carol Willsey. Ohio Genealogical Periodical Index: A County Guide. 4th ed. Youngstown, Ohio: C. W. Bell, 1983.
Bell, Mary McCampbell, et al. 'Finding Manuscript Collections: NUCMC, NIDS, and RLIN.' National Genealogical Society Quarterly 77, no. 3 (September 1989): 208'18. Bentley, Elizabeth Petty. County Courthouse Book. 2nd ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1995.
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Boyer, Carl, III, ed. Donald Lines Jacobus' Index to Genealogical Periodicals. Newhall, Calif.: Boyer Publications, 1983.
Brown, Lesley, ed. The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary. 2 vols. Oxford, England: Oxford University Press, 1993.
Buckway, G. Eileen. Index to Texas Periodicals. Salt Lake City: Family History Library, 1987.
Carson, Dina C. Directory of Genealogical and Historical Publications in the US and Canada. Niwot, Colo.: Iron Gate Publishing, 1992.
Century of Population Growth 1790'1900. 1909. Reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1967.
Chapter, Elizabeth Benton, comp. Genealogical Guide Master Index of Genealogy in the Daughters of the American Revolution Magazine Volumes 1'84 (1892'1950) with Supplement Volumes 85'89 (1950'55) Combined Edition. Kansas City, Mo.: National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, 1951. Reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1994.
A Complement to Genealogies in the Library of Congress. Baltimore: Magna Carta Books, 1981.
DAR Patriot Index. 3 vols. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2003. Dictionary Catalog of the Local History and Genealogy Division. Boston: G. K. Hall, 1974.
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Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files. 4 vols. Waynesboro, Tenn.: National Historic Publishing Co., 1991'92.
The Genealogical Index of the Newberry Library. 4 vols. Boston: G. K. Hall, 1960.
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The most recent models of the Saab 9-5 enjoy incredible popularity with Saab fans and those who appreciate General Motors offers for the model. At the time of the design, GM still owned Saab.
It's hardly uncommon to find many of the well-known automakers started out in different fields. For example, several of the U.S. carmakers originally manufactured carriages and buggies. In Europe, things differed, and many automotive companies started as part of the World War II war effort. This is the case for Saab. The Swedish company first started producing airplanes, in both the bomber and fighter designs, in 1938. After basing its airplanes on German and American designs, Saab offered the first completely Swedish-designed aircraft, the Saab 17.
After the war ended, the company needed a new direction, and making high-quality automobiles seemed like a good way to go. The executives at Saab decided to offer the public affordable, safe cars. Up to this point, this particular market had been largely ignored by the other car manufacturers. As it turns out, Saab made a good choice. The company quickly became known for its quality cars offered at reasonable prices.
Saab has continued to offer its various lines of vehicles in several of the world's markets, including the U.S. The 9-5 series provides just one example of the quality cars available.
Like most of the lineup from Saab, past and present, the 9-5 series of sedans enjoys a reputation for being well-made and reliable. Interestingly enough, this particular model lasted 11 years in its original guise. Most carmakers update or retire models much sooner than that. This one proved so popular that Saab left well enough alone until an update became imperative. The 2010 model year marked the changes for the 9-5, and so far it appears successful.
This car doesn't necessarily offer the same precision as the older models, but it does offer a fun and reliable driving experience. In test drives, it receives favorable reviews for quick response. The attractive styling of the body and interior also attract a lot of attention. The 9-5 is impressive to look at, and this feature alone makes it popular with those buyers looking to find an affordable midsize sedan.
Saab offered the 9-5 series new for the 2011 model year. This car touts a distinctive body style and good looks. In order to meet the needs of all of its clients, Saab offers the new 9-5 in four unique trim levels. Consumers can choose from Turbo4, Turbo4 Premium, Turbo 6 XWD, and Aero trim levels.
The Turbo4 trim level comes equipped with a four-cylinder engine and includes plenty of amenities for an entry-level option. Consumers will enjoy 17-inch wheels, keyless ignition, and cruise control. With the Turbo4 Premium, also a four-cylinder car, buyers receive all of the options of the Turbo4 with the added offerings of a panoramic sunroof, front and back parking sensors, and leather upholstery.
The Turbo 6 XWD contains a V-6 motor and offers plenty of features as well. These cars have all-wheel drive, advanced parking assistance, and a head up display. The upgraded Aero offers everything the other trim levels offer with the addition of 18-inch wheels, a sport-tuned suspension, and paddle shifters.
As noted, the original Saab 9-5 sedan remained relatively unchanged for 11 years. These cars debuted in the 1999 model year and didn't receive updates until 2010. For the most part, the 9-5 series sells well and often receives very good reviews from industry leaders and drivers. During the first generation, the biggest changes Saab chose to make with the 9-5 series concerned the engines. It appears the company sought just the right mix of power and precision.
It can be difficult to judge how well the 9-5 stacks up to the competition due to the many years it saw production. Each model year has different competitors. However, buyers expect several features from the 9-5 sedans. These cars offer incredibly comfortable seats and cabin space, regardless of the model year. Available cargo space draws in many buyers, especially those with families or those who frequently travel.
In 1999, Saab presented the 9-5 with three trim levels: the base model, the SE, and the upgraded Aero. Each of these trim levels offers plenty of options for the new car buyer and makes a good choice for the used car buyer.
2011 Saab 9-5
Luxury, Sedan
The 2011 Saab 9-5 is an executive car manufactured by Saab Automobile AB, Sweden.
2010 Saab 9-5
Everything. The 2010 Saab 9-5 is new from the ground up, riding on a new chassis with all-new bodywork and interior. Engines and drivetrains are carried over from the Saab 9-3, but are matched to a new adaptive suspension. Adaptive Cruise Control and Traffic Sign Recognition are now both offered. Engines are bio-fuel compatible.
2009 Saab 9-5
Luxury, Sedan, Wagon
The Saab 9-5 can be described as ""long in the tooth"" for a car.
2008 Saab 9-5
The Saab 9-5 was first introduced in the 2000 model year, making it one of the oldest vehicles on the market as of 2008.
2007 Saab 9-5
The 2007 Saab 9-5 is overdue for an upgrade.
2006 Saab 9-5
The 2006 Saab 9-5 is a midsize sedan that offers the classic Saab look but sometimes falls short on performance.
2005 Saab 9-5
The 2005 Saab 9-5 comes with superior handling, and the suspension fittings make it a sure performer on bends and sharp corners.
2004 Saab 9-5
The Saab 9-5 debuted in 1998 as a successor to the 9000 line.
2003 Saab 9-5
With six models total, there are a lot of great luxury choices in the 2003 Saab 9-5 lineup.
2002 Saab 9-5
Saab is a Swedish manufacturer that is well known for producing safe and reliable vehicles that stand out from the crowd.
2001 Saab 9-5
The 2001 Saab 9-5 combines some elements of the best luxury sedans with the pep of some sportier sedans.
2000 Saab 9-5
1999 Saab 9-5
Saab introduces the 1999 Saab 9-5.


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Rational MSU fans, your thoughts for this weekend
I know there are a few users around here who have established themselves as rational MSU fans. I've seen some pretty unbelievable comments in other places (no links, you go to these places at your own risk) about how Michigan is so over-rated and MSU is going to kill us, so I'm interested in hearing some more rational insights. So, this is for you. After seeing how we handled our first away game, what are your thoughts for this weekend? Homerism aside, do you agree with the odds placing MSU as the favorite?


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Okay I don't want to jump to conclusions or anything but I was surfing the web for sandman comics. And desided to empty the trash I colud not do this because my computer said .trash in use, at first I didn't find this att all strange but then I desided to check my firewall logs just in case and they were all GONE! I'm running a virus scan on the system and checkin if anything is changed but sofar I've failed to find anything.
Am I making any sense or do I just come out paranoid?
If I was hacked how can i trace the intruder?
Right now my only open connections are the one to internet and my messenger connection other than that ther's no trafic at all
This is srange to me,
what do you guys/girls think?