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The fear that hearing loss associated with persistent otitis media with effusion can permanently harm the child is groundless, investigators at the University of Pittsburgh and the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh reported in the Aug. 11 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.
At least up to the age of six, a delay in surgical insertion of an ear tube generally doesn't matter, concluded a study of 429 children with the condition who were randomized either to a prompt tube insertion or to a period of watchful waiting for up to nine months.
"We're not saying never do it, but err on the side of conservatism," said Jack Paradise, M.D.
If the condition persisted in those being watched, they were eventually treated -- six months later if both ears were involved and nine months later if only one ear was involved, he said.
Because the condition often clears up without treatment, 113 of 213 in the delayed-treatment group had not been given a tube by the age of six.
The study also included a reference group, selected to represent the demographics of the study population and to include a range of children from those with no middle-ear effusion to those whose condition stopped just short of making them eligible for the trial.
At three and four years of age, there were no differences in developmental outcomes between the groups, Dr. Paradise said. At the age of six, 395 of the children underwent a new series of 30 developmental measures, including testing of intelligence, vocabulary, and behavior at school and home.
"There were no advantages for early treatment in any of the tests we did," Dr. Paradise said.
It is still possible that some differences will show themselves later, Dr. Paradise cautioned. The researchers are now testing the children at the ages of nine to 11 to see whether there are any differences in literacy or attention.
"It's conceivable we'll find some differences there," he said. But the results of the study so far mean "the burden of proof is on those who say do something."
Dr. Paradise said the study contradicts the standard recommendation that children with fluid in the both middle ears for at least three months should have tubes inserted, and that those with fluid in one ear for 4.5 months should undergo the procedure. The concept of delayed insertion is also consistent with a clinical practice guideline recently issued by representatives of the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, and the American Academy of Pediatrics.
About 280,000 children had the operation in 1996, the most recent year for which estimates are available, Dr. Paradise said.
The procedure is still indicated when there are other problems, such as sensorineural hearing loss, cleft palate, or Down's syndrome, he said. "You don't want to add to the burden of a pre-existing condition," Dr. Paradise said.
The treatment might also be indicated if the period of effusion is very long, or if the associated hearing loss is moderately severe, rather than mild to moderate, as is usually the case, he said.
"If hearing is way down, then you might want to intervene," he said.
On the other hand, "some delay is always a good idea -- there's a high likelihood of spontaneous resolution," he added.
The operation is intended to create an "artificial Eustachian tube," he said, allowing air to flow into the middle ear. The surgeon makes an incision in the eardrum, aspirates the fluid, and inserts the tube, which maintains the airflow.
The tube, however, also permits bacteria to enter the ear, creating the potential for secondary infections. Also, the procedure leaves scarring on the eardrum, which may have implications as hearing fades in later life, he said.
"My intuitive sense is that no scarring is better than some scarring," Dr. Paradise said.
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This was the outfit I decided to wear on Sunday for lunch with a couple of friends of ours. I spotted the dress in Animal and absolutely fell in love with it, after trying it on there was no doubt that I was going to buy it - especially after realising that my mom would be able to get 10% off (the joys of having a mom in University!) It was surprisingly warm and really wearable, I teamed it with tights and over the knee boots but I think it would work equally well with heels, just hoping I can get away with wearing it all year round, Stuart thinks not but I'm going to give it a damn good go!!
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Cicada's Insect Wing's Kills Bacteria
Human eye cells have been grown on cicadas' wings after it was found that the wings' surface kills bacteria and boosts cell growth.Dr Greg Watson, a researcher at James Cook University in Cairns, began looking more closely at cicadas after noticing, while out on a walk more than a decade ago, that their wings took much longer to decompose than their bodies.It is the first time scientists have found that tiny features found on a natural surface, rather than chemicals, kill bacteria.
Supreme Court of India Rejected Novartis' Patent Plea for Cancer Drug Called Glivec
The Supreme Court of India on 1 April 2013 rejected the plea of Novartis, the Swiss drug maker, to patent the updated version of cancer drug called Glivec. A bench of justices Aftab Alam and Ranjana Prakash Desai dismissed the patent plea to Novartis on the basis that there was no inventiveness or novelty in the new version of the drug. In its ruling, the Supreme Court of India declared that because the application for patent on beta-crystalline salt did not meet any inventiveness or novelty standard, therefore the company's plea for patent was dismissed.
World's first solar plane to fly across US
A first of its kind ultra-lightweight plane powered completely by the sun is set to fly coast-to-coast this spring.The Solar Impulse plane will stop in Dallas city in Texas during its historic cross-country journey that begins on May 1.The plane, which requires zero fuel and relies solely on solar panels and battery power, would be the world's first plane powered purely by solar energy.
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Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer Detected Evidence of Dark Matter
On 3 April NASA scientists announced the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer (AMS) placed on the International Space Station (ISS) may have detected the elusive dark matter. The scientists made the announcement after they observed an excess of positrons in the Cosmic Ray Flux, which can be the reason of the presence of elusive dark matter.
100 billion Earth-like planets in our galaxy
Scientists have proposed a new method for finding Earth-like planets in our Milky Way galaxy and they anticipate that their number may be up to a whopping 100 billion.The strategy devised by researchers at The University of Auckland uses a technique called gravitational microlensing, currently used by a Japan-New Zealand collaboration called MOA (Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics) at New Zealand's Mt John Observatory.
German Shipyard Launches World's Largest Private Yacht
On 5 April A German shipyard has launched ""Azzam"" , the world's largest private yacht at 590-feet long, which also happens to be among the fastest vessels, costing a whopping USD 609 million.The luxury private vessel 'Azzam' – with a beam 68-feet high – overshadows previous longest superyacht, The Eclipse, by 57-feet. Designed by Nauta Yachts in Italy and constructed by German company Lurssen Yachts, Azzam is almost two football fields long and rivals the size of some cruise ships.It took four years to complete the superyacht from concept to construction.With 94,000 horsepower generated from two gas turbines and two diesel engines, the Azzam can reach speeds of over 55.5kph, which makes it one of the fastest yachts in the world.
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In the month of April the team of researchers from Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh , developed a New Laser powered Camera System that can take image of any object from a distance of about one kilometer by creating high-resolution 3D images.The technique on which the camera is based is called 'Time-of-Flight (ToF)' navigation systems for autonomous vehicles. In this principle of photography, to capture the image of the far away object, a laser beam is bounced on the object and measure the time that is taken by the beam of light to be back to the detector.
India test-fires nuclear capable Agni-II missile
The medium-range, nuclear capable Agni-II missile was successfully test-fired with a strike range of more than 2,000 kms from the Wheeler Island off Odisha coast on 07 April 2013.The trial of the surface-to-surface missile was conducted from a mobile launcher from the Launch Complex-4 of Integrated Test Range (ITR).The 20-metre-long Agni-II is a two-stage, solid-propelled ballistic missile. It has a launch weight of 17 tonnes and can carry a payload of 1,000 kgs over a distance of 2,000 kms.The state-of-the-art Agni-II missile was developed by Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL) and integrated by the Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) in Hyderabad.Agni-II is part of the Agni series of missiles developed by DRDO which includes Agni-I with a 700 km range, Agni-III with a 3,000 km range, Agni-IV with 4,000 km range and Agni-V with a more than 5,000 km range.
NASA Approved "TESS" Project
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I had to do something! It's hard to describe "what isn't" but I have high hopes. For now thoughts and ideas on parenting, step parenting, marriage, divorce, adoption, death and whatever else I think I may have constructive commentary on. If you have some commentary or thoughts of your own, please feel free to share!
Some people's mothers
This October marks a year since I met my biological mother. This January will mark 2 years since our initial contact via email. At the moment I am going on week number, ohhh let's see, maybe 4 or 5, and unanswered email number 3. Email number 1 was a pretty nice mail (I solicited opinions) in which I asked point blank who my biological father is. I haven't heard squat since. No "eff off and die", no "sorry Campbell, I will not tell you", no "I need more time", not a damn word.
I realize something could be wrong with her, she may have no Internet access, she could even be dead for all I know but it's not likely since I haven't seen an obituary yet in my daily searches. Also, based on the past 2 experiences where I worried something may be wrong and it turned out all was well, she'd just not bothered to mail back, it's more likely that she's just ignoring me again. If I'm wrong and she's ill or dead, I will not feel the slightest bit of guilt for being ticked off and that's her doing, not mine.
I have done all I possibly can to prove my dedication to protecting her privacy. She has no legitimate reason to fear I will betray her if she gives me the information I'm entitled to, which is knowing who my biological father is.
I write this post not to solicit my reader's pity but rather to inform those thinking of searching. To tell those who've gone against their mother's wishes and contacted family members that I can see how it can happen. To let in the closet mothers know how frustrating it can be from the adopted person's side of it all. How disrespectful it feels to be ignored when you've taken great care with your mother or father's feelings and circumstance.
How tempting it is to just say screw this.
Why should I continue to care how you feel when how I feel is apparently meaningless to you?
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- AnonymousOctober 14, 2011 at 8:04 AM
This is simply sad. I wish your biological mother would extend simple courtesy to you. Just an acknowlegement that you have contacted her and asked a question. It doesn't appear you are asking much.ReplyDelete
People are so messy.
Your point is well made. I would never fault you or anyone else who would continue on to contact other family members when they have first reached out to their biological mother with little to no avail.
If your biological mother had asked that you never contact her again, or indicated that you were a part of her life she wished would remain a secret (should a person ever be a secret?), I can see why you may (or may not) choose to contact other family members.
But to simply be ignored.
That seems like it would incredibly hurtful.
I admire that you would consider digging deeper and possibly searching out other members of your biological family. That takes great maturity and forgiveness to allow yourself to move past the initial hurt to seek others who might not treat you the same.
I don't have any experience being an adoptee. But I appreciate you sharing your experience because it helps give me perspective on what it might be like to be adopted.
And it makes me sad. So much loss for you. And unanswered questions.
Thanks for sharing.
I wish your (bio) mom could be honest with you. That is one thing that I swore I would do ~ no matter what. No matter the question I would only be completely honest with Christopher in reunion. I was tired of the lies that already exist in adoption, I didn't need to add any more.ReplyDelete
I wouldn't fault you at all if you do decide in the future to reach out beyond your mom to get the answers you deserve.
- AnonymousOctober 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM
As a firstmom I can't even imagine why someone would keep the name of the biological father a secret. Is is possible that your bio mom does not know? I've heard of situations where such is the case. Just a thought.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousOctober 14, 2011 at 3:27 PM
There is no right way or wrong way. I have talked to adoptees who have been waiting for more than a decade for their mothers to reveal their existance - that takes an incredible amount of patience that I doubt I would have.ReplyDelete
I am sorry you are in the midst of this. My story is different than yours. I know who my father is but he doesn't have any more time for me (as in providing my family health history because my doctors needed it) than he had standing up and being a man when it counted before I as born. After many years I can finally say with honesty - his loss - not mine. Yet at the same time I check the SSDeath index to see if he has passed away. It is never easy or as planned - emotions or reality.
Sorry Campbell. This situation is really unfair. :(ReplyDelete
That's so unfortunate that she's not even responding to communication. What if you sent her flowers or a gift in the mail, and tell her that you appreciate her? Does the honey approach work with her? Some people it does, some it doesn't. I feel fortunate that I was able to meet my father, even though it was only once. Because it explains things about me that I wouldn't know from just knowing my mother. My prayers are with you!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousOctober 15, 2011 at 10:18 AM
I'm sorry Campbell. It sucks :(ReplyDelete
I do not understand how she can just continue to avoid like this, whatever the circumstances surrounding your conception.
- AnonymousOctober 16, 2011 at 6:06 PM
I'm sorry Campbell. I feel fortunate for my daughter that when we searched and found her mother, she did tell us who our daughter's father is. At least my daughter will have a name and physical description.ReplyDelete
I was thinking the same as Gail, is it possible your mother does not know who your father is? That may be hard to admit, even to yourself. Hugs to you. It is not fair. You have a right to this basic information even if the answer is "I don't know."
Hugs, Kris
When I met her we talked a bit about it. She told me that the man in my non identifying information is not the person who is my father, that it was just wishful thinking on her part. The non identifying info gave a description of him and said I already had a half brother at the time of my birth, that he was seperated from his wife. I think that it's now that she's lying, not then. I think that he's likely still married and she's afraid I'll out him. If I'm right, it's insulting to me that after all this time she doesn't trust me, never mind think enough of me to simply write me back. It's just common courtesy to reply in a timely manner, especially to something of such a serious nature.ReplyDelete
In ten seconds I could contact two of her sisters, both of her adult children, an adult grandchild, and numerous relatives and have been capable of doing so for over a year. I've not even told my mother her (bio mom) last name in my dedication to protecting her privacy.
I guess I just find it all insulting. It's rude, thoughtless, and not a way that I act or treat people. This is far more than I should be saying but you're all so kind and I want you to know I appreciate your comments. If I ever hear from her again, I'll be sure to let you know. Thanks.
- AnonymousOctober 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM
I think it's also frustrating that she wants to keep you a secret. That makes me equally mad. It would be better for her to just tell everyone now that to keep the lie going. I hope that she'll come around eventually. I'm sorry that you're being treated like this.ReplyDelete
I'm so sorry Campbell. My daughter will be in this situation in many ways. He siblings are all adultm and she is only 3, they know nothing of her existence. I did, with the support and words of Ms. Marginalia, get her first mother to tell me her father's name. I am so glad she has that. I have not reached out to him on my word, but I did search and have all his contact info.ReplyDelete
Every day that passes is a day my daughter does not know her sisters and they do not know her, and that is incredibly sad. In fact, my daughter is about to become and aunt at 3. Sigh...If and when my daughter wants to meet her sisters, I will assist her, I can reach them...
That is so good you have his name, Trish. Keep keeping track of him. Would you be able to vaguely share why your daughter's first mother doesn't want you to reach out to him? Why she doesn't want her other kids to know?ReplyDelete
Oneinchofgrace, thanks. What bugs me is I am letting her have her secret, what can't she give me something in return, you know?
- AnonymousOctober 19, 2011 at 6:49 AM
It's about control. Not necessarily about controlling you, but about her no longer feeling in control of things in her life -- specifically this secret.ReplyDelete
My guess is that she feel's alot of shame and regret and has convinced herself that having this secret out would be devastating for her.
The reality is she may never get beyond these feelings and give you what you need/want, the whole truth. That puts you in a catch 22 position, if you go against her wishes and contact siblings, etc. you risk looking like a jerk for not respecting her wishes (in their eyes) and if you don't you risk ending up with a lot of you own regrets not getting to meet the rest of your family.
This really sucks! I am sorry.
I get this 100%. As you know, my parents are married but nobody else knows about me. I'm trying to be respectful. I've been responded to. But NOBODY will tell me what the time table is. I don't think they understand that while this has potential to upset the lives of their kept children, this has huge potential to mess with me too.ReplyDelete
Communication is good. Clearing the air is good. I really hope this works out and she gets back to you. ((hugs))
You could very well be right Cheryl, she has in conversation (about things unrelated to adoption/me) talked about her tendency to like to be in control of what's going on around her.ReplyDelete
Jenn, I always follow your story because of us having in common being kept secrets from siblings. Of course your siblings are full siblings and are still children, not the same at all as my circumstance but still, I can relate to many things you say and feel.
Your first/birth/bio mom...sheesh I'd like to tell her to take advantage of the fact her other kids are still kids, that every day she waits makes it worse. Not to mention her husband knows he's your father!! She's really in the best place to come clean about it all. Anyway, sure would love to talk to her lol
- AnonymousOctober 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Sorry she's being silent. It's disrespectful. I think silence is worse than anything else. Even if she doesn't plan to tell you his name, she should tell you that she won't tell you. I think many first moms choose silence over conflict with us adoptees; conflict is understandably messy, and mixed up with issues of shame, etc., it's all the more painful. But I feel they owe us the respect of being honest about the decisions they are making. We don't have to like them, but they need to tell us about them.ReplyDelete
And as we are adults, we are then free to make our own decisions, based on theirs. Respect is key, but they first need to respect US.
- AnonymousOctober 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM
I've been thinking about your situation for a few days now and your bio mother's actions seem wrong on many accounts. Despite your tx you have been very respectful for quite some time. At this point, what could it hurt to go ahead and introduce yourself to your siblings and your aunts? It seems like you have nothing to lose and possibly much to gain. I am so sorry that you have to deal with all this.ReplyDelete
"That is so good you have his name, Trish. Keep keeping track of him. Would you be able to vaguely share why your daughter's first mother doesn't want you to reach out to him? Why she doesn't want her other kids to know?"ReplyDelete
It's all very vague anyway. She was 40 and he in his 20s. I guess she told him and they agreed to an abortion or something like that, They broke up, she says he was no good and our daughter "dodged a bullet" no further details on what that means. She did not name him at any point, and being in a putative father's registry state his rights were gone 30 days after birth (she was placed with us at 2 months, long story not mine to tell) She hated his mother too. Who knows the truth?
She his her pregnancy form everyone and got no prenatal care. She believed and continues to believe that no one would support her choice to place. She bottom line did not want to parent and start all over, and she did not want father to parent with his mother. She thinks her daughters could not have handled the loss but "planned to tell them when they are older" whatever that means.
My thoughts are that to some degree her sisters do know their mom was pregnant- they did ask and she denied- and that mom just wants it to come out so she can stop hiding. I don;t think she will ever tell of her own will, though. There was a lot of sneaking around etc. and there are tons of photos, OBC (!) and other things in a box that can easily be found.
I often feel really shitty about participating in this web of lies. What will my daughter think of my actions? Will she blame me? I do my best to have all the information (and photos, lot and lots of photos) she needs to do with what she wants, but is that enough? Will she hate me?
This is all so complicated, and I hate the thought of my beautiful girl feeling pain, feeling rejection, feeling any less than her sisters who were raised by her first mother.
I personally don't think your daughter will hate you Trish. Not for all this stuff anyway. Sounds to me like you're respecting her first family as best you can. Focus on being the best mom you can and be there to support your daughter if the time comes, and be confident in the role you play in her life. Your daughter may or may not feel those things Trish. I don't think it does anyone any good to automatically assume everything negative an adopted person goes through growing up is adoption related, to do with attachment, abandonment etc. No offense meant to you personally at all but it can have to do with the adoptive parent themselves and instead of thinking about what they may do differently in parenting that adoptee, it's just taken for granted that there is something wrong with the adoptee by virtue of having been adopted. Don't fret too much yet, enjoy her and keep up with the info gathering. I think it's great!ReplyDelete
Gail, you're right in that I really don't have much to lose but there's just something that seems wrong about it to me. I guess if I were to though it might ease my conscience to warn her of my intentions ahead of time. I don't know. Not even sure if any aunts would even have knowledge of who my bio father is although they could have some guesses I suppose.
- AnonymousOctober 20, 2011 at 6:15 AM
What a dilemma. I feel bad for you. I can't think of anything more you could do to win her trust, other than to continue as you are doing, and who knows how long that could go on for?ReplyDelete
Like Gail said, you have been respectful and discreet for a such a long time, you'd think she'd have given you her trust by now, instead of leaving you in this difficult position.
Not that it really helps to consider such a thing and it may be that it really is just avoidance on her part, but do you think it is possible that the withholding could be a kind of challenge?
"..do you think it is possible that the withholding could be a kind of challenge?"ReplyDelete
Who knows, eh? Could be I suppose but I just don't REALLY know the woman.
Don't get me wrong, I don't fret this every minute (though some days I really do stress it from am ethiocal perspective). I enjoy every minute as a mom to my most aswesome daughter. And as a mental one person do not necessarily impact another in the health clinician, I know there are many things that impact development, and that things that impact same way or at all. Still, I'd rather have everything for my kid and she not really want it than have nothing and she really need it. And I'd rather recongnize and validate adoption related issues should they manifest than to pretend they don't exist if one just loves the child enough.ReplyDelete
And I don't think she'll hate me one day (for this at least). At 3, She thinks I rock as a mom!
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Thanks Trish. Sounds to me like you have a good handle on it all. I really like that you'd rather have everything and she not want it than have nothing and find she needs/wants it. Your daughter is fortunate you understand there are many things that impact development, not just being adopted.ReplyDelete
I wonder if pretending adoption related issues don't exist even happens much anymore? Seems to me more like people assume or expect they will (or do) exist and that preventative treatments or therapies are the norm. That any little thing is an indicator of attachment issues, any unacceptable (to the parent) behavior on the part of the child must be because they are adopted.
I know as a parent I look at myself first when I had/have an issue with my son, I don't automatically assume it's him.
"I wonder if pretending adoption related issues don't exist even happens much anymore?"ReplyDelete
Oh believe me, it happens, a lot. It happens as much any issue that parents pretend doesn't exist. I guess it depends on what population you are talking about, too. I see lots of adoption in my work, kin and non kin adoption, or informal adoption (a ton of this- mom leaves kid with neighbor and never returns, or comes in and out) I also see lots of foster care issues, migrations issues, etc. You'd be surprised how much attachment issues are totally overlooked, even by professionals. Adoption or not, I can diagnose at least 60% of my clients with attachment disorders.
Hmm now you have me thinking Trish. I take what you're saying to mean that attachment issues are a pretty big deal and not unique to those involved in what may be considered typical adoption. That attachment issues can also exist in intact families.ReplyDelete
Now I'm wondering if you have seen situations where parents think their child, adopted or not, has attachment disorders when in fact it's them, the parents, who are the ones having trouble attaching or are just dissatisfied with the way their kids show attachment.
It depends on how you are defining "intact." Attachment issues can and do occur, quite often in fact, in families of origin. That said, there is often a relational rupture that occurred.ReplyDelete
We've gone off on a tangent. I can write volumes on attachment. To answer your question, I have not seen- in my practice-parents believe their child has an attachment disorder (especially when one exists). I have seen parents think their child is just bad, and not look at their own parenting, or recognize that there are relational issues that affect behavior. Sadly, this happens quite often.
For those still checking in here, I finally heard back from bio mom. She said has already given me more information than she likely should have and is sorry to disappointment me but cannot give me any more information. She apologized for taking so long to reply but my asking really threw her for a loop.ReplyDelete
I'm so sorry Campbell. That's really infuriating and hurtful. I have no words...ReplyDelete
Ah Trish, you know what? I'm not infuriated nor hurt now to be honest. I'm pleased she finally mailed back. It's obviously a very big deal to her for some reason. I'm disappointed I don't get to know something I'm pretty curious about, especially now with all the secrecy!ReplyDelete
I'm glad you are not infuriated or hurt. We are [very obviously] different types of people. What you are "pretty curious" about would drive me completely batshit crazy! Sometimes I wish I wasn't this way, but mostly, I love my over the top curiosity and love doing the detective work that follows!ReplyDelete
Was just speaking to my sister about my passion for "detective" work. It's things driving me completely bat shit crazy I try very hard to avoid ; )ReplyDelete
I have to say that I don't think I'd be as nice as you. I'd probably contact my bio siblings. Frankly I think she's being rude. She's a grown woman now. Adoption isn't taboo. She should grow a pair and deal with it. You deserve answers if you want answers. I haven't tried to find any answers because its not something I care to look into right now. But...that said, if I felt I was getting the run around like you have been...I'd take my search farther. Maybe if her bio children knew they would persuade her to tell you what you deserve to know.ReplyDelete
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Yesterday I finally made crispbread again. Crispbread like this are quite expensive if you are to buy them at the supermarket, but you don't have to give in to the evil consument business, as these crispbreads are really easy to make yourself. (I hope I've been able to translate all the ingredients correctly).
Use a convection stove/stekeovn med varmluft. Preheat till 160 degrees.
You need:
200 g sunflower seeds/solsikkekjerner
50 g sesame seed/sesamfrø
50 g linseed/linfrø
2,2 dl whole grain millet grit/hirseflak
2 tablespoons psyllium husk fiber/fiberhusk
5 dl lukewarm water
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Then, add the water and blend together. Leave the dough to rest for 15 minutes. It will swell and become less wet porridge, more dough.
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My finished pile of goodies. This batch ended up quite golden, I don't think they should bake any longer than this...
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Tuesday, 27 January 2009
Dr Who and my daughter
I have friends who are amazed and horrified that I let my 6 year old watch the new Dr Who. She's been watching with me since the show began, 3 years ago (we had to wait for it to premier over here). It began as a treat for her, she'd stay to listen to the theme music, then she'd stay for 15 minutes and fall asleep curled against me in a cuddle, then she'd slowly fight to stay awake for the whole hour. The next day she'd ask to see it again, when she was awake. And very quickly, she fell in love with Rose, and the Doctor, and the whole idea of travelling in the blue box all over the galaxy, helping fix whatever needed fixing in every world they came to.
So why, I am asked, do I let my daughter watch it? The themes are adult, even if some of the creatures are in that cute gizmo way, and the science talk is sometimes goobledy-gook, and the inside of the Tardis is fantastic beyond anything dreamed of! and I'm still not sure how it's the time machine, just that it is - it doesn't matter. What matters is the truth the show tries to convey, the heart of the story every week, which is almost always about love. There is death, and sadness, and partings - Holly-Anne still isn't over Rose going, and then all this past season got so excited over Rose coming back,until the ending, when she cried (I cried too) over Donna and Rose and the Dr. Because in a funny way, the writers and creators of Dr Who are updating this old science fiction idea for the 21st century. Yes, we can travel in time, and to different worlds - and wherever we go, we face ourselves, in whatever disguises we come in. How do we love what is alien in ourselves, if we can't embrace the stranger across from us? How do we learn to say hello in a different language? How do we gaze upon the stars and not wonder 'what's up there?' If we can save a life, do we? Yes, because we can.
My daughter is learning about what it is to be human, by exploring the universe. And I love the fact that as she grows older, she will find more in the stories and dialogue than she can currently understand. She loves the Dr, and Rose, and finally came to like Donna by the end of this year, only to lose Donna at the end. She's gone through the doctor change once - and she cried and cried when the Doctor changed from Christopher Eccleston to David Tennant, and then within a year became devoted to David Tennant too! She has already said that if the Dr came by with his blue box, she would gladly fly with him through the universe.
So would I.
I bring this up today, not just because it's still Carl's on-going Sci Fi Experience, but because I wanted to share what Holly-Anne chose to take to school today for Canada's Literacy Day. The children were encouraged to dress in pyjamas, and bring a book and toy from home. Out of all the books for her and her brother that we have (hmm, 100? 200 is closer....)she went right to the bookshelf last night and picked out the 2009 Official Dr Who Annual.
We picked it up while in England because it hasn't been available here. Off she went to school, and she showed her friends and her teacher. I did ask her if anyone else knew about Dr Who, and she said no.
This quote from Ursula K Le Guin's essay 'Why Americans Are Afraid of Dragons', is the real reason why I let her watch Dr Who with me - always at her insistence, so it's become our tv show now, hers and mine;
And finally, I believe that one of the most deeply human, and humane, of these faculties [of a human being] is the power of imagination: so that it is our pleasant duty, as librarians, or teachers, or parents, or writers, or simply as grownups, to encourage that faculty of imagination in our children, to encourage it to grow freely, to flourish like the green bay tree, by giving it the best, absolutely the best and the purest, nourishment that it can absorb. And never, under any circumstances, to squelch it, or sneer at it, or imply that it is childish, or unmanly, or untrue.
For fantasy is true, of course. It isn't factual, but it is true. Children know that. Adults know it too, and that is precisely why many of them are afraid of fantasy. They know that its truth challenges, even threatens, all that is false, all that is phony, unnecessary, and trivial in the life that they have let themselves be forced into living. They are afraid of dragons, because they are afraid of freedom.
So I believe that we should trust our children. Normal children do not confuse reality and fantasy.....Children know perfectly well that unicorns aren't real, but they also know that books about unicorns, if they are good books, are true books." p 44
The unicorn comment made me think about something that happened this autumn with her. We came across a copy of The Last Unicorn, the animated video that came out in the - 1970's? that we were able to rent from our local video store. It was the animated film of Peter Beagle's book, which I read long ago and have carried a copy with me ever since. She watched it once, and then cried when it had to go back. (We haven't been able to get it out since.) I realized then, and often since then, watching her watch Dr Who, that there is a power in fantasy and science fiction - whether in Dr Who or Disney - that she responds to, and I am delighted to see this love of 'what if' rising up in her.
Oh, and she also loves Indiana Jones, especially the first movie. And Scooby Doo, and her doll Rose (named after you know who), and Strawberry Shortcake and Littlest Pet Shop. So she's not being completely taken over by Dr Who and science fiction! Though I have endless questions to answer about Dr Who, especially this season's ender, which she is still working out.
That's why I let her watch Dr Who. It is in the end, made for children, so any blood or gore is minimal - almost always off-screen. The very best of Dr Who contains what is in the very best of all science fiction and fantasy: it shows what it is to be human, and it shows what is true.
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- Molly said...
I just had to let you know two things. First of all, I have learned more about the appreciation of fantasy and science fiction literature by reading this post, than I have in my entire life. I am not "afraid" of fantasy literature per se, I am just such a realistic, black/white person that I have a very difficult time understanding it. Your post helped me to put it in some sort of logical order for my very limited brain, and I vow that I will someday persevere and grow to enjoy it.
Secondly I wanted you to know that I greatly appreciate your blog. When I see that "You Can Never Have Too Many Books" has made a new posting, I become very excited to check it out ASAP. There is an award floating around the blogosphere called the "Well Worth Watching Blog" You definitely have my vote!
- 27 January 2009 at 22:53
- Carl V. said...
Hey, anything that introduces your child to a love of science fiction is a good thing in my opinion!!! And if she likes Scooby Doo, all the better...just so long as she doesn't love that abomination, Scrappy Doo! ;)
- 28 January 2009 at 00:39
- Michelle said...
My husband used to watch Dr Who when he was little (probably not at 6 though!) and we tried watching the new series of it when it started, but I couldn't get into it. He continued watching it for nostalgia and then stopped as well.
I think what you said was right though, that if it encourages her to be imaginative then all the better!
- 28 January 2009 at 03:54
- Cath said...
Well, my two daughters are adults now and have children of their own. People used to ask me how come I had two such well adjusted, sensible kids. My answer? I brought them up on Star Trek. We watched the repeats as a family and from that they learned a good code of behaviour, not to judge people by the colour of their skin or gender, and to be open minded. I think people just thought I was weird... especially when I took them both off to a Star Trek con when TNG was popular. The fact is, you can do an awful lot worse than introduce your children to sci fi and fantasy at a young age. There is so much to be learnt from it about how to be a decent human being.
Dr. Who is wonderful. My kids watched it, and now my grand-daughter is watching (she's eight and a half). She also reads a lot of fantasy books. I truly believe the books she reads and the TV shows are just as educational as Maths and History lessons. Oh and I too was devastated at what happened to Donna at the end of the last series. Heart-breaking. Lastly a TV rec for you. If the BBC's new 'Merlin' series ever hits your side of the pond it's well worth watching. My whole family is hooked.
- 28 January 2009 at 04:53
- Jeane said...
I have to admit I've never heard of Dr. Who, but I watched a lot of Star Trek when I was younger, and my husband allows our 4-year old to watch Star Wars with him- they get into lots of long discussions about why the characters do certain things. That's one of the things I've always appreciated about fantasy, be it film or book- the stories are always so enmeshed in issues of good/evil and codes of conduct. And they're entertaining as well! I love the quote you shared by LeGuin. I want to read the entire essay now. Which book of hers did you find it in?
- 28 January 2009 at 08:33
- Care said...
I believe any parent that shares activities and imagination with their children must be 'good' parents. I don't know anything abt Dr. Who but I can appreciate kids growing up watching Star Trek per Cath's comment.
- 28 January 2009 at 11:19
- Robyn said...
Wow! Thank you for posting such a great post. I was impressed by your passion on this subject and your insistence on letting your daughter learn and experience in a manner that is conducive to the stimulation of her imagination and appreciation for literature. Thank yoU!
- 28 January 2009 at 12:04
- Susan said...
Molly: thank you so much. If I can get one person just to try reading fantasy, then that is part of my goal in writing about books. Don't worry if you don't like it, though. Many people don't! Like some people don't like romances, or mysteries, or non-fiction. I wanted to share why I thought Dr Who was worth while. If you read below, though, some people don't like it.
Especially, I thank you for your very kind words that you get excited to read my new posts! and the Well Worth Watching Blog - thank you! I'm not sure I've come across this award. Mostly, I love talking about books, and the blog is my way to talk without being interrupted! lol
I will come visit you shortly, and I am delighted that you are enjoying what I have to say. thank you.
Carl: lol!! and we're trying Star Wars with them - lately, it's the Clone Wars, which they've (both children) have taken to watching....
Michelle: this new Dr Who doesn't appeal to everyone, though I am delighted to say I made a convert of a friend's boyfriend last weekend! lol he is busy watching the whole first season dvd now we lent him. and we've watched the original Dr Whos as well - my kids love Tom Baker - and again, the old show promotes alot of the same values. At least you tried it (the new show), and I know it's not for everyone. so far I am the only one watching Battlestar Galactica religiously, but it doesn't change my mind that it's must-see viewing. I'm just an audience of one!
Cath: *hug* we must be long-lost friends. I love the original Star Trek (I grew up on it), and my children have just started watching it - not all the time, but they are still young. My eldest prefers the newer Star Treks - he grew up on Voyager - and we all love Star Wars. Lucky you to get to a Star TRek con! I knew people who went - this was back in the 80's - and I didn't have enough money, and truth be told, other than the communicator, I didn't want anything else. I did buy Leonard Nimoy's biography and devoured that - Spock was my favourite - basically I think we are an SF household, and as you say, this helps raise kind, sensible kids. I love that your granddaughter is following in your footsteps!!
What's the new Merlin? Who's in it? This sounds interesting....
jeane: the quote is from her book of essays, "The Language of the Night", published in 1979.
Like you and Cath say, SF and fantasy allow us to teach - learn - in the ancient storytelling way about good and bad. My eldest (age 20)loves Star Wars - we all do - even the youngest is getting interested! Does your 4 year old watch all through the movie, or does he pop in and out as it's on? I ask because our 4 year old likes some of it, but the talking parts he gets bored with still. I like that you used to watch Star Trek too. I think there are a lot of us out there - or perhaps they are all finding my blog! lol
Care: thank you! and we watch Star Trek too together, though it isn't the same attachment for her yet as Dr Who is. Myself, I was devoted to the original Star Trek.
Robyn: thank you!! this was all at her insistence too, her liking for the show, because otherwise I would have waited a year (or two, when she started she was 4!) before introducing her to it. She likes it as much as I do! I'll come see your blog now.
- 28 January 2009 at 18:17
- Cath said...
Susan, the BBC's new Merlin series occupied the Dr. Who slot on Saturday evenings during the autumn. Here's the BBC website for it:
I hope you're able to access it as I know the BBC have become funny about non-UK residents viewing their site. Anyway, it's a family show, has knights and dragons and monsters and lots of intrigue. It has an excellent cast of four youngsters and two veteran actors, Anthony Head from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Richard Wilson from the classic comedy series, One Foot in the Grave. The whole thing is a real joy to watch and returns for a 2nd. season in the autumn. I thought that Canada and the US were supposed to be getting it this coming season but it seems it's been delayed.
As a family we watched all the Star Treks except Enterprise. The original series was my 'teenage' thing and then became a family favourite with the repeats. When TNG started my daughters were 11 and 14 and we all obsessed over it. Much later we were all big Voyager fans too. As you say, we were, and still are, a SF family and are always chatting about the fantasy or horror books we're reading or various TV series. My grandkids don't really stand a chance of *not* being into sci fi and fantasy. LOL.
Sorry to be so long-winded!
- 28 January 2009 at 18:52
- Susan said...
Cath: I'll go check the site out! thanks. I'm pretty sure it's not over here, CBC usually promotes the BBC shows it imports very heavily before the show, and then all through the season. I'm quite sure we will be watching this one!!
I love long-winded posts, it's like a conversation with lots to say :-)
and I am delighted that there is a whole family of you across the pond, glued to SF on tv, like we are here!! And from Jeane's comments and a few others, I think there are more of us than I knew, who love genre tv and are sharing it with loved ones. Certainly my eldest son and I (we were alone during his childhood) watched them all together - Star Wars endlessly when he was sick, Jurassic Park, Babylon 5, and all the Star Treks. It is fun to see it pass through the generations, isn't it? My mother, and niece, read a lot of fantasy too, so we are always sharing books back and forth. That's why i was so surprised and delighted when Holly-Anne picked, out of all of her books, the DR who annual to take .
- 28 January 2009 at 20:11
- Robin said...
What a wonderful post! My husband and I are enjoying the first season of Dr Who right now! Our son was an avid fan when he was growing up, (yes, I knit him the scarf!) so we were curious about these newer ones, and we are totally hooked. I love your reasons for letting your daughter see them! I'm always trying to find good age appropriate science fiction stories/books to introduce my 7 and 8 year old students to the genre. It's such a powerful and creative genre!
- 28 January 2009 at 21:25
- Jeane said...
My kid sits still through most of it. She does get a bit bored with the "they're just talking" parts, and hides under blankets for some of the fighting parts, but never wants to really quit until the ending credits!
- 29 January 2009 at 06:53
- L. Clarke said...
G,day my parents let my brother and I watch Doctor Who since it first started back in the 60's. My Dad could walk down a street in suburbia anywhere and every house would be blaring, 'Exterminate'.
I loved the series and have started reading the Doctor Who novels to my own daughter, who likes the series too. She loves the new series mostly.
I write a bit of sci-fi and have a novel called Doom Of The Shem.
- 30 January 2009 at 03:14
- Nymeth said...
Wonderful post, Susan! Fantasy and sci-fi are definitely powerful, and their not being realistic really doesn't make them any less true than mainstream fiction. People who tell me they don't read/watch stories in these genres because they like their stories to be about "people and the world" puzzle me. Of course fantasy and science fiction are about that too. How could they be about anything else? We're all human. Anything we imagine will by definition involve human concerns. As always, Ursula says it perfectly.
How great that you are sharing your love of storytelling with your daughter. You know, your post reminds me of Neil Gaiman's posts about watching Dr Who with his daughter Maddy :P
- 31 January 2009 at 13:49
- Memory said...
This was such a wonderful post. I'm an awful lot older than your daughter, but I can relate to so much of what she loves about the show. (I cried and cried and cried at the end of the second series). It's awesome that you and she watch it together, too. When I was about Holly-Anne's age, or maybe a little older, I used to watch Star Trek: The Next Generation with my parents. It was SUCH a big deal; I'd get to stay up an entire hour past my bedtime, and we'd talk about the shows, and it became a huge part of my childhood. (I also developed a collosal fear of the Borg, but that's another story). Knowing that other parents are doing similar things with their children makes me smile.
- 31 January 2009 at 22:51
- Susan said...
robin: you actually knit him the scarf! aah. I bet you could knit someone on our blogs as a giveaway and get a whole lot of 'pick me's!'!!! lol my kids love Tom Baker and gladly watch the old ones too. It is such a powerful genre, isn't it? you should try Becky at Becky's reviews for good ideas for your students, she reads alot - A LOT - of young adult books, and kids books, and is a great resource. I still have so much in Young Adult to read! Have you tried them on Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising series? I'm just reading that now. I'm very happy you are enjoying the new Dr Who too, by the way!
jeane: I think you could be describing the 4 year old in our house too!! He enjoys it too, but not quite to the same extent yet as Holly-Anne does. I can hardly wait to show them Star Wars!!
L.Clarke: I'll come check out your site, thanks for leaving a comment on mine. How old is your daughter?
Nymeth: thank you! And you put it perfectly too, by saying fantasy is about people. I get confused by people who say science fiction is about rocket ships - well yes, it is, but it's about the trip in the rocket ships and where it's going to - the human voyage, that is so interesting in science fiction - to me, anyway :-) I get upset at people who dismiss it because it is science fiction or fantasy - but then I think, they are the ones missing out, and oh, are they missing out on so much. I love that fantasy makes us confront our myths, and live them out, too.
I haven't been to Neil's posts lately, I'll have to go check and see what he says! Don't they have a lovely relationship, he and his children?
Memory: thank you so much for sharing this! I can see you staying up late with your parents, discussing the ideas - star Trek, no matter which version, was always, at its heart, about people and ideas, and if we embody our ideas well enough or not. I did enjoy the Next Generation, I just found it copied my favourite, the original Star Trek, alot. I loved the idea of Voyager, but when the first mate Robert Beltan got taken off, I thought that was a real shame - and I really hate the Ferengi!! The Borg give me the shivers too, though 7 was a fascinating character.
This all goes to show, that when TV is done well, and families share it, there is a lot of good that comes out of it. thank you!
Though it can never take the place of books, tv is a good place to meet to share in a communal viewing, isn't it?
- 1 February 2009 at 22:31
- jspeyton said...
What a lovely post and a great quote from Ursula! Until a few years ago, I would have told you that I didn't particularly care for sci-fi/fantasy either. That is, until I realized that a great many things could fall under the rubric of "fantasy" and a lot of it I happened to like. Because it didn't fit my idea of what fantasy was I didn't think of it as fantasy of sci-fi until a few books opened my eyes. Now I'm a proud fan! In fact, my reading material of later has been very fantasy heavy of late. Lol.
I've never seen Dr. Who. Maybe I'll check out an episode. =)
- 7 April 2009 at 11:35
- Susan said...
JS: Oh, Please do! we got the boyfriend of one of my close friends hooked on the series after watching an episode! It really is much more than the old series, which we do watch also when we can now - I do love this series, though. I can't believe we're on hiatus for over a year now! Let me know if you give it a try :-D and how you like it.
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Torn between his love for his family and his love for Blaire, Rush has to find a way to save one without losing the other. In the end one has to be more important. Letting go isn't easy.
Blaire believed in her fairytale... but no one can live in a fantasy.
Her love for Rush and desire to have a family keep her believing that they can find a way for this to work. Until she has to make the right decision for her and the baby. Even if it breaks her heart.
Can they find the forever that they both want or has it all just gone... too far?
If you're like me that can't get enough of Rush and Blaire's story, I know you would be happy that we now have a new cover to the third book (and its now the two of them there), release date ( June 10, 2013 ), and a few teasers I found online to satisfy our cravings
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"You nervous?' Grant asked.
"That she's gonna decide not to walk down that aisle? Yes," I replied.
Grant laughed and shook his head. "That's not what I meant."
"One day, brother. One day you'll understand. And when you do I'm going to laugh my ass off."
"Not a chance in hell," he replied.
Rush's mouth trailed kisses down my neck as the shower spray fell from above our heads like it was raining. I wanted one of these showerheads in our house. Both of Rush's hands slipped around my waist and covered my stomach. He had a hard time keeping his hands off my belly these days. There was no mistaking that I was pregnant now. It was as if Rush needed to stake his claim regularly. If he wasn't so dang cute when it came to protecting me it would get on my nerves.
Before I could completely enjoy having Rush's body covering my backside and his hands on me, the high-pitched angry scream that I knew belonged to Nan stopped both of us. Rush's body went rigid behind me.
"Nan?" I asked already knowing the answer.
"Yeah. Guess she found out I was here already," he replied and pressed one more kiss to my neck. "You finish your shower. I need to go deal with this. She and my father do not get along."
I nodded and stood under the warm water as he stepped out of the shower and grabbed one of the large white fluffy towels folded up on a marble pedestal table. I wanted to go with him but he hadn't asked. But then he wouldn't. He was so worried about anyone upsetting me.
A man's deep voice began yelling in response to Nan's screams. Who was that? I had only been around Dean a little but I didn't think the man had ever gotten emotional about anything enough to raise his voice. I turned off the water and grabbed a towel then followed Rush into the bedroom.
"Who else is here?" I asked as he jerked on a pair of jeans over his naked ass and reached for a tee shirt.
"My guess would be Kiro. Apparently they're having their father daughter bonding here," he replied in a frustrated tone.
Kiro. I'd only ever seen pictures of the rock god. But he was here now. In this house…
"Just stay in here. This is why we came. So I could deal with her. She's raising hell and Kiro can't manage her. As soon as I get her calm and under control the sooner we can go back to Rosemary."
I nodded and forced a smile. Rush started for the door then stopped and turned back around. A crooked grin tugged at his lips and he sauntered over to me. His hands slipped into my damp hair and he cupped my face as he gazed down at me. "I just want to stay here with you," he whispered before lowering his mouth to mine.
I grabbed both his arms and held on to him as his mouth brushed gently against mine before he took a small lick at my bottom lip. I opened my mouth so he could taste more when another shrill scream came from downstairs. Rush pulled back and sighed. "Damn crazy family," he muttered.
"Go deal with it. I'm okay here."
A knock at the door surprised me and I pulled the towel tightly against me. Rush stepped in front of me to block anyone's view.
"What?" he called out.
I peeked around his back as the door slowly opened. I was mentally preparing myself for Nan to come barging into the room. Instead, a girl about my age stood at the door. She didn't look like anyone I would imagine belonged in this house. Her long brown hair brushed her waist in soft curls and was parted to the side. She had no bangs. It was all one length. Her sultry looking hazel eyes were framed with dark lashes but she wasn't wearing any makeup. The straight legged shorts she had on hit just at her knee and she was wearing a pale pink blouse that buttoned up the front. It was simple and classy.
"Hello, Harlow," Rush said surprising me even further. "I'm on my way down. I hear her."
One of the girl's perfectly sculpted eyebrows arched. "I was hoping I could hide up here with you. You're really going down there to deal with that?" The southern twang to her voice startled me. Who was she and why did she have a southern accent? We were in Beverly Hills.
"That's why I'm here. To help the situation," Rush replied.
The girl nodded and then her eyes shifted from Rush to focus on me. "You must be Blaire."
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The night breeze was cold now. I immediately shivered and Rush stopped and wrapped his arms around me. "We need to go to the house. I'm not going to make her stand out here and talk. It's too damn cold." Rush told his father.
Dean finally stopped walking and looked back at me. His eyes slowly took me in and I could see the moment he noticed my stomach.
"Dean, this is Blaire Wynn. My fiancée. Blaire this is Dean Finlay, my father." Rush said in a tight voice. He didn't sound like he wanted to make this introduction.
"No one told me I was gonna be a grandpa," he said in a slow drawl. I wasn't sure how he felt about that because there was no emotion on his face.
"I've been busy," was the only response Rush gave him. That was odd. Was he embarrassed to tell his dad? I felt sick at my stomach and started to ease away from him.
His arms tightened their hold on me and I could feel his attention focused completely on me. "What's wrong?" He asked turning his back on his father and bending down so he could look me directly in the eyes.
I didn't want to have this conversation in front of Dean. I could feel his dad's eyes on both of us. I shook my head but my body was still tense. I couldn't help that. The fact he hadn't told his father was bothering me.
"I'm taking her to the car. I'll meet you back at the house," Rush said over his shoulder but kept his eyes focused on mine. I dropped my gaze wishing I hadn't reacted now. I was making a scene. Dean was going to think I was a whinny princess.
and this one didn't shocked me at all:
"Grant and Nan have had a thing for a while now. Nan finally screwed things up for the last time and its over. Rush didn't know about it"
My mouth dropped open as Dean's words sank in. Grant and Nan? Really?
"Shocked the hell outta me too. Didn't think that boy was stupid. Guess he learned the hard way just cause it's pretty doesn't mean it shines"


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Little Julienne's arthritis has been acting up, making her want to sit around and not do much. I thought we should give her a little bit of aspirin but when we checked with our Illinois vet, he said glucosamine would be more effective and less dangerous. So glucosamine it is. Now every morning she gets a special breakfast. It starts with her anti-seizure medicine, which she has been taking every day since September, 2013.Then we add a little ground-up glucosamine. Randy used his lightweight cooking scale to determine the dosage, and it turns out to be a "pinch", according to the cutesy measuring spoons we never thought we'd find a use for.
Then a little olive oil, because olive oil is good for everyone and mixes everything together.
And lately we have a couple more things to add. This week we took her to a local vet and he prescribed some pills to help manage the pain as her joints heal. So one half of a round pill,and one half of a long pill (she gets the other halves at night).
The olive oil probably tastes ok and the seizure med is butterscotch-vanilla flavored, but I imagine the glucosamine and pills taste awful. So to encourage consumption, we add a bit of a treat. (Plus, treats were the only way Julienne accepted getting her meds for since 2013, so I don't think we can quit now).
Since we can't play favorites, Shorty gets a striped down version - just olive oil and treat. And then they both enjoy their breakfast!