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Michael Berthiaume said he didn't know where his wife, Catherine, was going when she left their home about 4:30 p.m. Monday.
She put three potatoes in the oven to bake, then put her coat on and said she was going to go out for a little while. Mr. Berthiaume said he figured she was headed to Dunkin' Donuts on Route 20, as she often did, to get an iced coffee.
That was the last time he saw his wife of 36 years.
"About 9:30, two cars pulled in the driveway. These two guys got out in black suits and long black overcoats," he recalled. "I'm looking out the window and I said, 'It's a little late for Jehovah Witnesses.' "
Mr. Berthiaume said the two state troopers told him that his wife had been struck and killed by a tractor-trailer when she got out of her moving car on Interstate 290.
"They figured she committed suicide," he continued, beginning to choke up as he sat in a recliner in the sunroom of his modest home at 379 Oak St., smoking cigarettes and watching television. "They wanted to look through the house. They went through her bedroom to see if she left a suicide note. They kept her cellphone. Maybe an hour they were here."
Mr. Berthiaume said his wife, who was bipolar, had tried to commit suicide twice before: Once by overdosing on pills and the other time by stabbing herself. The couple's only child, 32-year-old Sarabeth, is autistic.
He said he's not sure what was going through his wife's mind when she stepped out of her car onto the busy highway. "But whatever it was, it wasn't good.
"She suffered all these years with this problem. She would go two, three years and she would be fine. Then all of a sudden it would rear its ugly head and she'd get sick," he said. "I guess this time, she had her mind made up. She just figured to herself, 'That's it. I can't do this anymore.' "
"I'm really pissed off that she would do that … to leave Sarabeth and I like that. But at the same time, I kind of understand where she was coming from. She was an awful sick woman."
Mr. Berthiaume said he met his wife in 1972, when he was working stocking cans of oil on a shelf at the Mobil station in the center of town. Catherine was born on Martha's Vineyard and as a toddler moved to a home on Milton Avenue in Shrewsbury with her three brothers and her parents. Her father was a schoolteacher in Northboro. Ironically, her mother was head of the psychiatric unit at St. Vincent Hospital in Worcester.
Mr. Berthiaume said he used to say hello to Catherine when she and her girlfriends walked past the station on their way home from school each day.
"One day," Mr. Berthiaume said, stopping to wipe away tears, "I finally worked up the nerve to go over and ask her if I could take her out, so we started dating."
Mr. Berthiaume, 59, graduated from Shrewsbury High School in 1972. His wife, who was 56, graduated in 1975 or 1976, he said. She went to Quinsigamond Community College in Worcester for a year and later worked at Data General, until their daughter was born.
"She was a very good mother. She loved people … do anything for anybody, but she had this sickness," continued Mr. Berthiaume. "It would come and go, but once you have it, you own it. All the medicine and all the doctors in the world can't fix it."
Mr. Berthiaume said his wife was taking medicine daily for the disorder and had had shock treatment and had visited numerous doctors.
He said he didn't learn that his wife was bipolar until after they were married. He said Catherine's mother must have known, but hid it instead of getting her help.
Mr. Berthiaume said he didn't tell Sarabeth about her mother until the next day, after she returned home from work at Mercy Center in Worcester. He told her that her mother had been killed in a terrible accident and that she was going to be with her (deceased) grandmother. His daughter cried a little, but she doesn't fully understand, he said.
Mr. Berthiaume, who has neuropathy, said he recently filed for disability. He worked as plant superintendent for 20 years at GF Wright Steel & Wire Co. in Worcester. After it was bought by another company, he worked as a service technician for Northboro Oil. He hasn't worked since being laid off three years ago as a service technician at Superior Oil in Millbury. He said he used to help his wife out by cooking a couple of times each week, including every Sunday.
Private funeral services for his wife will not be finalized until her body is released from the medical examiner's office in Boston, he said.
"Eventually, I'll get used to it. Right now it's just overwhelming," he said. "I depended a lot on what Cathy did. Now I have to do the laundry, the cooking and take care of Sarabeth. I'm going to miss that woman something awful."


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Many people's eyes glaze over when they see headlines containing the words Albany, corruption and commission. The reports issued by such commissions are like bad commercials we didn't like the first time we saw them and we like even less the 20th time we see them. Eventually, even when they're on, we're not conscious of them anymore.
But that's a mistake. Corruption in the state capital — the unethical and in some cases criminal conduct of the people we've elected — isn't just an Albany issue. Just like county policing isn't just a Mineola issue and veterans' benefits aren't just a Washington issue, state office holders' abuses of power are local issues, having as much impact on the residents of Valley Stream, Oceanside and Lawrence as they do in Buffalo, Schenectady and Oswego. And just because your state representative is honest doesn't mean the "pay to play" atmosphere of how things get done — or not done — in the private chambers of government doesn't affect you.
The Commission to Investigate Public Corruption, established in July by Gov. Andrew Cuomo and empowered through the state's Moreland Act, was created in response to public outcry over what the commission termed "an epidemic of public corruption that has infected this state . . . [T]oo many local and state elected officials, staff members, and party leaders have been indicted and convicted for offenses running the gamut of shame: bribery, embezzlement, self-dealing, and fraud. Public corruption has become all too commonplace and has eroded the public trust and confidence."
"One of every 11 state legislators to leave office since 1999 has done so under the cloud of ethical or criminal violations," the commission stated, "and multiple sitting officials are facing indictments on public corruption charges."
The commission issued its preliminary report last week. Its investigation so far "reveals a pay-to-play political culture driven by large checks, anemic enforcement of the weak laws we have on the books, and loopholes and workarounds that make those laws weaker still."


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It's a good thing I went to Body Pump today.
I usually don't go to Body Pump on the weekends, but my other sister, we'll call her sister one, was in town and has never been to Body Pump so myself and sister two decided to take her. We got there a half an hour early just to make sure we got the back row. However, two others had also had the same idea, so one of us had to move up a row. I usually make sister two do it, but I decided I would do it today and it's a good thing I did.
I absolutely hate looking in the mirror while I'm working out. It's not attractive at all. Today, I looked in the mirror while I was doing squats and I wasn't disappointed at all with what I saw! A friend told me last week that you could tell I was losing weight and I just shrugged it off and said thanks. But today, I finally saw it for myself. I do look thinner and I was pumped about it. So pumped that I increased all of my lifting weights for the entire class....ugh. I will regret appreciate that tomorrow.
Although I haven't lost maybe five pounds in the last three months,but I haven't gained either and I'm starting to see results. I'm excited for tomorrows class and will probably stand by the mirror more often!
In my next post I'll let you in on a conversation I had with my mother this weekend.....


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Two schools, many towns, but all the students are Whalers
New London - Seth Lake is representative of many New London High School students. He works hard in class with hopes of becoming a chemical engineer, plays shooting guard on the basketball team, and fills his spare time with extracurricular activities.
But Lake is not from New London; he lives some 15 miles away in Stonington. And although he is a junior at the Science and Technology Magnet High School of Southeastern Connecticut, technically he also is a student at New London High.
Located adjacent to the high school at 490 Jefferson Ave., the $18.75 million, 60,000-square-foot magnet school opened in 2006 with an enrollment of 120 students. The school, which focuses on science, technology, engineering and mathematics, serves 360 students, including Lake and 141 others from outside of New London.
When the magnet school opened, officials pledged that there would be no rigid division between the two schools. And although each school has its own building, principal and class offerings, they share one address, one driveway and one student body.
"I would say it is more of one school in two buildings," J. Hunter Roman, a junior at the high school, said. "There are subtle differences between the two, but for the most part, everyone is the same. It's just like we're all part of the same school."
Roman, a defensive end on the football team, attends a college-level chemistry class at the magnet school.
"That's the thing about this school," he said. "Even though I don't technically go here, if there is a class that I need and they know I am ambitious enough to go get that type of education, they'll offer me that class."
The dynamic between the two schools is a healthy one, officials said, because neither school is exclusive to a particular set of students.
"What makes the relationship between the high school and the magnet school work is that it is so much more enriching and it provides so many more opportunities for all the students," Louis E. Allen Jr., principal of the magnet high school, said. "All the kids are benefitting from both programs. Everybody can get something out of it."
Lake said he views the magnet school as "an extension of the high school" because it offers different classes and includes students from New London and other towns.
"It is a whole different environment out here and it brings a lot of life experiences," Lake said. "It allows you the experience of assimilating into a whole new city and new types of people, and (to) make new friends."
A magnet for diversity
From Sprague to Stonington, more than 900 students from 19 communities go to high school in New London.
"There is nothing like this place, between these two schools, there is nothing like it," said Allen, who was principal of New London High for more than a decade. "We get it all. One thing we pride ourselves on is that our kids know they are accepted."
At the schools, where the student population is 78 percent minority according to the most recent report from the state Department of Education, diversity is celebrated as a valuable part of the school experience.
"I think it speaks to the character and the personalities of the people at the school, at the magnet school and at New London High, because a lot of people from out of town are intimidated by the diversity of New London and of the magnet school," Lake said.
The school's diversity is most obvious in the cafeteria, where any lines between high school and magnet school are erased.
"You have a variety of people from all walks of life, socio-economic statuses, races, and they're all sharing tables together and enjoying each other's company," New London High School Principal William "Tommy" Thompson III said.
The diversity of the schools is a reflection of the city as a whole, Roman said.
"If you look at the city, it's all different types of people. And then all those people come to this school and now we're drawing in kids from out of town," he said. "Growing up in New London, and going to New London High School especially, you see all types of people. I think that is one of the best parts of this city and the school."
An after-school culture
Not only does having a diverse student body make for a more enriching high school experience, but it also prepares students for life beyond high school.
"It prepares us to deal with different types of people as we grow up and go to college and get jobs, because in college, the groups are going to be very diverse," magnet high school junior Lillian James said.
"I'm always here," James said. "Even when I don't have to be."
James, a New London resident who is the drum major for the school band and a member of the swim team, said that participating in extracurricular activities helps keep her on track with all of her academic work, too.
"At 2:05 when the class bell sounds, by no means is the day over," Thompson said. "That's when things come alive at the high school."
Students are involved in clubs and athletics, and some stay after school to study in groups.
"There is a whole culture after school," Roman said. "After school, you always see the same people around, doing the same types of things. Some people leave at 2:05, but there are a lot of kids who are around all the time. It's school I guess, but it's a lot more relaxed."
Between the two schools, students can choose from about 30 after-school clubs and activities including garden club, spoken word club, community service club and multicultural club.
If enough students are interested and a faculty member is willing to serve as an advisor, the school is open to establishing a club, Allen said.
"We try to accommodate every kid in this building and that's why it takes on a life of its own after school and that's why we have a late bus every day," he said. "We tell our kids, if you're looking at the clock, this is not the right school for you."
Now, as New London stands to become the state's first all-magnet school district, the dynamic between the two high schools could be viewed as a model of intradistrict cooperation and partnership.
And though the campus technically remains two distinct schools, Roman said, the shared experiences make the students, staff and faculty members of both buildings unified as Whalers.
"There are kids that are from out of town, but now we're all wearing green and gold, we're all playing on the same teams, we're all going to have the same graduating class, we all go to the same prom, the same homecoming," Roman said. "So it's not a huge division between normal high school kids and magnet school kids. ... It's one big, happy family, basically."
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The other day I made this simple and tasty savoury pancake for lunch..Basically I just modified from the earlier Japanese savoury pancake Okonomiyaki recipe.
Corns and Pumpkin Savory Pancakes(recipe source: by Sonia aka Nasi Lemak Lover)
150g cabbage, finely shredded1 red chili, chopped
1 onion, chopped
1 spring onion, chopped
150g pumpkin, finely shredded
1 corn on the cob, use knife to slice the sweet corns
1 slice of Ham, chopped
2 eggs
1 and ½ cup plain flour
1tsp salt or to taste
1tsp chicken stock powder
50ml water
- Combine cabbage, chili, onion, spring onion, pumpkin, sweet corns and ham in a mixing bowl.
- Add in seasonings, eggs and flour, slowly add in water and mix till a mixture.
- Pan-fry a spoonful of the mixture in a well-greased moderately warm frying pan till golden on both sides.
- Serve hot with sweet chili dipping sauce.


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Monday, December 27, 2010
Hello, you rotten pieces of shit. Did you have a good Christmas? I certainly hope not. The idea of you doing anything besides refreshing the comment threads endlessly to see if some new atheist-tard has posted another illiterate entry using the word "Christian" as an insult so you can post "man you are so right that person is such a dumbhead for thinking that atheists are a bunch of self-important mouthbreathing trolls with the self-awareness of a retarded slime mold" is actually offensive to me, as it is to all of human society. I had a wonderful break, of course, as I always do when I don't have to interact with you loathsome cretins. Your bare existence saps the life of everything you come near, and that's not a positive quality.
But you didn't come here for the express purpose of being insulted for being mouthbreathing atheist trolls with the self-awareness of a retarded slime mold (but see the postscript below). You came here to hear me bitch incessantly about XKCD, a webcomic which is "written" and "drawn" by Randall Munroe, who is a basement-dweller in the city of Somerville, Massachusetts, and currently he is outside of Megan's dumpster, wondering why the presents he gave her are in there, unopened. (They contain "sexy" lingerie, by which he means "lingerie which have linux things written on them," and some cloth napkins with mysterious protein stains on them.)
When last we left our hero, he was writing some terrible comic where he whines about religion or some shit. We join him in a humorless attempt to derive humor from coupon codes.
837 could almost be funny. It's not, of course, because it was written by the aforementioned stalker and author, Randall "Randall Munroe" Munroe, but you could probably make a joke out of something like this without much problem or effort. The problem is mostly that the threat is kind of weak. "I saw you steal something 20-odd years ago" is not really that threatening. There's a statute of limitations on that shit, and in Massachusetts it appears to be about six years.
I can already hear the cuddlefish complaining that I'm just nitpicking and obviously Randy wants me to suspend disbelief in order to make this work, but come on. Theft is a minor crime. Worst case scenario, we're looking at felony theft, which is usually a pretty minor charge, and the addition of a burglary charge for illegal trespass. Neither of these are "OMG YOU KNOW YOU CAN HAVE ALL YOUR SHIT FOR FREE" offenses. It wouldn't have been difficult for Carl to write about a more interesting offense. Something that would be a secret that someone would actually be worried about coming out--an actual crime with no statute of limitations, perhaps, or just something which is either widely or personally viewed as deeply wrong in a moral sense of the word.
And I can also hear some particularly stupid cuddlefish complaining that, no, the joke is that the theft is such a minor thing and it's a contrast. But here's the thing: theft isn't a big deal, but it's not a complete non-issue. Maybe if it was "three years ago you left the state and purchased a Macbook Pro, thinking nobody would notice," it would be funny. But we're stuck with this: a crime that is mediocre in its intensity, remarkable only in that it's so utterly bland.
Is it supposed to be made worse by the fact that he stole it from a dying woman? I'm going to assume it was some piece of fancy jewellery or some shit. And while I'm not an advocate of stealing, come on. Unless you stole something which was directly improving her quality of life in her last days, I don't see how her health is even remotely relevant. I know you suck at writing, Randall, but do try to make the thing your entire joke hinges on at least somewhat compelling.
838 was apparently about me! I allow myself the conceit that Rob actually writes my name into his comics just to get at me, because nobody is going to stop me saying it and it's impossible to prove, like all good conspiracies.
This one was so bland that when I was first remembering it, I didn't notice that it was a Christmas comic, and was planning on criticizing him for failing to release a Christmas comic on Christmas eve, when he did one a week or two before. But on looking back on it again, it was, in fact, a Christmas comic, so I didn't write that as a review, except to enlighten you all as to what might have been. What a world!
It's certainly better than last year's effort, which was abysmal. But Jesus Christ, this was bland. Apart from being GOOMH-bait (even I, Lovecraftian horror that I am, have idly wondered where sudo reports these things), this is boring Linux nerdery with a half-assed holiday . . . twist? Let's go with "twist." God knows Randy needs all the credit he can get.
839 was ruined by a surfeit of useless references. The joke could be good--it even almost is--but for some reason he insists on referencing a bunch of other board games, which just makes it kind of annoying. I know he's going for LOL RANDOM HOW WACKY, or perhaps he's just not confident in his joke and hoped that padding it with references would make it funny, but it didn't. Quite the opposite, in fact. The details matter. He could easily have made the conceit "two chess pieces stranded on a desert island" and not insisted on the Catan and Battleship references, and it would have been just fine--simple, but fine.
More is not always better. Frequently the best solution is, in fact, to use less. Simplicity is an art form that you'd think Randy appreciates, given his art style. Apparently not! He keeps trying to be complex, or at least failing to be simple, and it detracts. I'd say "try harder next time," but these days I'm pretty sure Randy's problem is actually trying too hard.
PS. Before I was a troll on xkcd sucks, I trolled religious forums on the internet. It was fun trolling the fundies for a while, but eventually the effort grew stale. I have since moved on to trolling atheists instead, wherever I can find them, and I am not exaggerating when I say that atheists are without a doubt the single most amusing group of people to troll that I have ever encountered. I'd be willing to say they are probably the most amusing group I am ever likely to encounter.
Just throwing that out there. Please continue arguing whether or not trolling atheists is actually worse than the Holocaust because atheists are only improving society with their whining. I hereby dedicate all comment threads, ever, to this discussion.
177 comments:
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM
i like trolling fat peopleReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM
they're harder to find in large groups, and they don't react as predictably--fat people, unlike atheists, have variations in personality and beliefs.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 11:24 AM
unfortunately when you get a large group of fat people together they... they tend to eat each otherReplyDelete
it's pretty disgusting to watch?
but fascinatingReplyDelete
- AlsworthDecember 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM
The only fun athiests to troll are the hypocrites, and that's pretty much true of all religious groups ever.ReplyDelete
Now we're discussing trolling instead of athiests. THIS WAS YOUR PLAN ALL ALONG WASN'T IT
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Evolution is a lie! Do some research, people!ReplyDelete
i don't think 'hypocrites' is the right word. though maybe it is? the ones that are fun to troll tend to view 'being an atheist' in a very religious fashion, though they vehemently deny that their religious beliefs are religious in nature, for some reason. and since they're very anti-religion I guess that's kind of hypocritical. but any moral code besides 'making fun of atheists makes you worse than Hitler and Jesus combined' isn't central to atheist beliefs so I don't really count that.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 11:35 AM
i am a munroe atheistReplyDelete
- ScottMcTonyDecember 27, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Rob just using the word atheist to describe a group that includes the minority of atheists and doesn't even seem to include any remotely prominent vocal atheists besides Pat Condell is POLITICALLY UNHELPFUL.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 12:14 PM
The atheists that are fun to troll are the ones who care about it too much. But fundamentalist atheists are just like the fundamentalist religious, and overused. I'd like to see someone trolling pantheists. That'd be, at least, original. :|ReplyDelete
Comics boring, review is okay. Though I'm still not sure why you referred to Randall as Rob(as in "I allow myself the conceit that Rob actually writes my name into his comics")... is that a freudian slip, Mr. Mason/Munroe?
scott being an atheist who denies that there are very many atheists like that makes you one of the atheists like that.ReplyDelete
also have you never read any prominent vocal atheists? they all fall under this description. every single one of them.
- King George IIIDecember 27, 2010 at 12:21 PM
I trolled deists and accidentally caused the Declaration of Independence. FML.ReplyDelete
- scottmctonyDecember 27, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Maybe I am just being SUPER GENEROUS but I get the sense that, well, in that very specific context, of course Sam Harris or Dawkins will come across like that, but in normal life circumstances I imagine them being respectful, un-angry, and most importantly, I imagine them spending the majority of their time thinking of things besides religion.ReplyDelete
Pat Condell is the only one I've read or watched who gives me the impression he spends a substantial amount of time sitting around being angry at religion.
As for atheists as a whole, of course it's a minority who act like that. I can think of no reason that reaching the conclusion "there is not enough/any evidence for god" would follow into "I will be a constant moral crusader!" any more often than anything else.
Obviously they do exist. The last comment threads 4:47, for example.
PS: Oh god... I, I just thought "woo, that killed five whole minutes! Success!" I have the single most boring life in the entire world.
scott: mostly people who aren't like that don't call themselves atheists, because the word evokes connotations of Dawkins-style fundamentalists.ReplyDelete
mole: what
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM
See the Freudian slip at the start of the stuff about 838? It reveals what we've always known.ReplyDelete
Anyway, I thought the threat worked not because of the legal issue, but because of the idea that he was playing on festering guilt. It's the sort of misdeed a person could do on the spur of the moment and regret for the rest of his life, being too afraid of what people would think of him to ever undo it. I thought the threat was the best part of the comic.
if memory serves rob calls himself a nontheistReplyDelete
this means the same thing as atheist but allows him to say he isn't an atheist when he's trolling atheists
honestly who knew it was so much effort
CAPTCHA: ranter. no comment necessary
actual review stuff: i dunno rob, stealing from a dying woman may not be worse than stealing from a not dying woman when you look at it in a rational utilitarian way, but a basic level it's stealing from someone vulnerable - like stealing from a baby. there's a sense of moral revulsion there rather than it making it a worse offence.ReplyDelete
admittedly it is well known you are fond of stealing from babies but i think my point still stands
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Rob, it's hard to answer that when you haven't specified which part you've misunderstood. Though I guess it's hard enough to answer that when it doesn't have a question mark.ReplyDelete
So, I'll guess and suppose you didn't get the second part. To that, I say: review your damn review, Rob. Hint: it's there right at the start of the "838" section.
CAPTCHA: blewingo. A very kinky way of playing bingo.
- ScottMcTonyDecember 27, 2010 at 12:43 PM
I proved myself a coward who would desert a dying man.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Rob, I suggest you take your own advice and stop writing. I don't like xkcd, read this blog regularly, and then it began to get stale. A few weeks after this Carl jumped ship, but you never stopped. Furthermore, your posts have very little actual critique. While there are a few good points, they are hidden in narratives of Randy's life that you have clearly strawmanned him into. He could say the exact same shit and replace Randy with Rob. I am in no way advocating for xkcd, but rather letting this blog go if you can't think of original, funny things to laugh at xkcd for. As I understand it, thats exactly what Carl realized.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Rob could you BE any more of a pedophile???ReplyDelete
i just don't think that theft is something you still worry about 23 years later. even (or especially) if it's from a dying woman. it has to be a pretty serious crime if you're still worrying about it more than 20 years later. something you regret to such a degree that, despite having had a vast amount of time to get over it (or tell yourself it was a youthful indiscretion--this only really stops working when you've passed, like, 80 years old), you still feel that someone keeping it secret is worth $80.ReplyDelete
and hey, remember that time that randy used this "computers and festering guilt" motif before? I just remembered it right now.
"actual review stuff: i dunno rob, stealing from a dying woman may not be worse than stealing from a not dying woman when you look at it in a rational utilitarian way, but a basic level it's stealing from someone vulnerable - like stealing from a baby. there's a sense of moral revulsion there rather than it making it a worse offence."
even if you accept that, (1) it's theft. a minor crime against someone's property, and property that she likely does not need. it would be different if it were 'stealing all the money a widow's husband left her, so she is left virtually penniless and without a source of income.' but 'taking something from the house of a dying woman' just lacks any sort of poignancy. it's a really, really boring crime. there are SO MANY OTHERS you could use. he went with one which is one step up from "in 1987, you ran a stoplight. you thought no one saw you. YOU WERE WRONG."
"Furthermore, your posts have very little actual critique. While there are a few good points, they are hidden in narratives of Randy's life that you have clearly strawmanned him into."
uh, yeah, that's the entire point. critiques are boring as fuck.
though "strawman" is not an accurate word here by any stretch of the imagination. the word implies that I am deliberately mischaracterizing Randy's argument in order to tear it down. you might have slightly better luck with "ad hominem," but Randy doesn't really have an argument and I'm not using the insults as an attempt to discredit him.
this is largely because they are not, in fact, sincere insults! they are jokes. they are amusing to me mostly because sometimes you get people such as yourself who start complaining about them, saying that they take away the substance of the critique or whatever, even when they don't (as in this case).
but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, man.
yeah i get your point the transgression in question being pretty minor - just quibbling with the idea that it being from a dying woman is irrelevant.ReplyDelete
"saying that they take away the substance of the critique or whatever"
that presumes there is any substance to start with
I guess? but I feel like a crime against a dying person is only worse if it actually has some direct impact on them. maybe I'm just picturing a bedridden woman who really doesn't care about her Glenn Beck's Apocalypse-Grade Gold stash in the basement.ReplyDelete
usually I do put a few actual critical elements in there /somewhere/. but yes, by and large, most intelligent people seem to be able to understand that the jokes are jokes and appreciate the posts for what they are: completely meaningless drivel that sort of organizes comment threads.
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 1:01 PM
well if the majority of readers appreciate your jokes, more power to you. Dismiss my comments, you know your audience and you are helping your blog. However, this format of post is relatively new (within the past couple months at most), whereas this blog has been running for years. I'm just saying that I, and perhaps some others, used to think this blog was funny and regularly visited it, and now do so once every couple weeks. But do whatever you like, its your blog.ReplyDelete
thank you, person who is posting anonymously and is still paying attention to the comment threads to see if anyone has responded to your brilliant opinion, I will definitely listen to your sage advice and am thankful you have given me authorization to do whatever I like. I was worried for a moment that I might not be pleasing some narcissistic anonymous commenter.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 1:35 PM
This is so boring I decided to take a look at xkcdsuxredux. Now it has only one boring post by Redux H4xx0r/Redux himself/Randall Munroe. And it's boring. And somewhy people keep on commenting.ReplyDelete
XKCD hate is becoming boring. I hope a few hours away will solve this. :P
I like how rob trolls everybody by putting his and Carl's names where Randy's should go.ReplyDelete
Boring: What happens when trolls try to out troll other trolls.
Can when go back to xkcd criticism and hate circle jerking yet? Or is the self deprecating/self trolling/self hating circle jerk got a few more rounds left in her?
Captcha: troll
You know what my hobby is? Not collecting stamps. I have all kinds of opinions relating to stamps based on my hobby of not collecting them.ReplyDelete
That's my response to atheists who give a shit about what anyone else says about religion.
Anyway, can't say much about this comic because Rob pretty much covered it. I would've said the same thing about it being better if it were a desert island! GOOMHFA!
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 3:22 PM
why does bishop and knight has food and why black and white dont they fight in chessReplyDelete
also rob religion is serious business
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM
I know there's a lot of Dane Cook hate out there, but his routine about saying "bless you" to an atheist is pretty funny.ReplyDelete
"When you die nothing happens!"
Disclaimer: I am a stereotypical Athiest who has an opinion on everyone else's beliefs, and feels the need to explain to them why they are so very wrong.ReplyDelete
Bret: Your analogy is pretty weak. If Theists are stamp collectors, Atheists aren't non stamp collectors who have opinions on stamp collecting. Atheists are also stamp collectors who don't believe stamps have an intrinsic value greater than the number displayed on their face, and that thinking otherwise is just silly. Just because a stamp is "prettier" doesn't make it worth more than 25 cents. And what happens when a stamp gets mailed? It's gone, used up. You can never use that stamp again, sure you can put it on display on your mantelpiece, but the stamp doesn't care, it's been used up, there is no stamp heaven, and there never will be.
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 4:54 PM
This is why Pastafarianism is the best religion evar. May you all be touched by his noodly appendage.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 5:01 PM
No Rinnon, atheists are non stamp collectors who are constantly having people call them sub-human for not collecting stamps.ReplyDelete
- ScottMcTonyDecember 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM
4:15 even when I was a Christian I thought that was one of his more horrible moments as a generally horrible pile of horriblosity.ReplyDelete
- JustScottDecember 27, 2010 at 5:16 PM
God is made of dark matter.ReplyDelete
the perfect illustration of how dull xkcd is these days: even an atheism vs religion debate is more interesting than ragging on itReplyDelete
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- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 6:27 PM
@Capn: Trolololol.ReplyDelete
Seeeriously, though, there was a time when discussing xkcd was interesting. Now we're dragging the same atheism-fueled discussion into the thread instead of talking about the newest xkcd. A discussion which was held in this blog at least once before. Probably twice.
So, what I'm trying to say is... if no one's gonna make a good job of being funny, I'll have to start trying. And when I start telling my "changing lightbulb" jokes, I won't stop!
Alan: good job reading the alt text before freaking out!ReplyDelete
- A ScientistDecember 27, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I need to know what Alan Wrote. For science.ReplyDelete
Alan's original text:ReplyDelete
"it's not Battleship, retard, it's chess notation. "B" stands for bishop, "K" stands for king, "N" stands for knight - are you with me so far? - and a3, e5 and c3 are positions. Look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_notation"
How OrwellianReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM
My favourite atheist justification is definitely "If God exists, He has to be evil. Therefor I don't believe in Him". Sort of like, "the government is probably full of corruption, so we should probably just keep out of its way and it'll keep out of ours, right?"ReplyDelete
I'm also pretty sure Pagans have the most proof. Look at the world and tell me it ISN'T being managed and watched over by a set of imperfect gods who are more interested in their own affairs than humans, and whose nature is rooted quite firmly in Celestial parties, drinking, and orgies.
Captcha: unboop.
I wish modern pagans believed that. I'd sign up in a heartbeat.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 8:37 PM
As a neopagan, I can tell you that religion for about 99% of us is about affirming a)how our 20th Century re-constructionist religion is actually the oldest religion in the world, b) how Christianity stole everything from us despite ecclesiastical records from the 3rd and 4th centuries outlining quite clearly and simply the Biblical reasoning for modern practices, c) how we're still being persecuted today, just like atheists omg when will the Church's power come to and end!?, d) that it is morally okay -- no, it is our duty!-- to screw strangers without hesitation and experiment with whatever we can get our hands on, because the Church can't stop us now, Darling! and e) that our million or so unorganized, already fractured, and generally young/inexperienced/unskilled members are, like, totally a world force to be reckoned with.ReplyDelete
Still better than "there is no god" Atheists [and any Atheist who isn't a "there is no god" type really needs to just re-evaluate their terminology], but not by much.
they need to get back to the whole sacrifice-and-orgies thing. there was a time when pagans were badass instead of kind of sad.ReplyDelete
- nugginsDecember 27, 2010 at 8:41 PM
"My favourite atheist justification is definitely 'If God exists, He has to be evil. Therefor I don't believe in Him'."ReplyDelete
I don't think anyone's ever said that.
Ok SOMEONE probably has, but the problem of evil is more to highlight absurdities in specific religions.
- nuggins againDecember 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM
"Still better than "there is no god" Atheists [and any Atheist who isn't a "there is no god" type really needs to just re-evaluate their terminology], but not by much."ReplyDelete
The vast majority of atheists are agnostic. Atheist just means non-theist. Or at least, that's all it means to most people calling themselves atheists.
I was originally going to apologise for being a Loyal Lurker who only pops in once every fifty years to feed a troll, because it seemed like the conversation got a lot less interesting at that point. Now I'm not so sure it was my fault.ReplyDelete
@Rob: I thought the people who deliberately wanted Dawkins-ish connotations went with "antitheist"?
Why would Alan run away like that? Why can't he just say he's sorry and admit he made a mistake? Then we could all be friends.
"The vast majority of atheists are agnostic. Atheist just means non-theist. Or at least, that's all it means to most people calling themselves atheists."ReplyDelete
it's funny, but the only people who ever say this are atheists who fall more or less squarely under the traditional definition of a fundamentalist atheist. the Common Folk atheists these fundie atheists insist are the most common type don't seem to be interested in defending the good name of atheism--indeed, many of them don't like being called atheists, and most don't really care what you call them.
"@Rob: I thought the people who deliberately wanted Dawkins-ish connotations went with "antitheist"?"ReplyDelete
surprisingly, most of them tend to be in denial about the fact that mostly they just hate religion in all of its forms and want it to die. they sometimes adopt monikers like "rationalist," and I think Dawkins tried to get them to call themselves "brights" (for serious), but mostly they're the people who are out-and-proud lockstep formations of militant atheists, insisting, in identical language, that atheism is just the absence of a belief in god, and that there is no commonality between any two atheists, ever.
Woah okay while I was posting, the conversation got like, way better?ReplyDelete
Agnostics are supposed to be undecided, but the statement "there is no way to confirm the existence of a God, therefore I don't believe" is not inherently agnostic - that's where all the Pastafarian/Intelligent Falling/Invisible Pink Unicorn/Non-stamp collecting stuff comes from. Saying that I don't believe in something simply because I'm not convinced is not the same as saying I'm undecided.
I like the idea of a Sacred Text that has the potential to be adapted into a sitcom or silly teen movie. I think the description of neo-paganism in this thread (which is the sum total of everything I now know about it) comes closest to this, so I am intrigued.
yeah, fundie atheists don't seem to grasp the fundamental difference between someone saying "I believe that knowledge of the divine is impossible" and "I don't think there's any evidence that God exists."ReplyDelete
they're often trying to convince me that, despite their functional certainty that there is no god, they have the same epistemological beliefs that I do, and it's like, "uh, no, you believe that knowledge is possible. stop telling me that I believe the same thing you do."
How are you defining "the divine"?ReplyDelete
"I believe that knowledge of my dick is impossible" and "I don't think there's any evidence that God exists." ... I would say the fundamental difference is really EASY to grasp once the terms are clearly defined like this!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 10:49 PM
I don't think anyone's ever said that.ReplyDelete
Also, the Norse Reconstructionist religious text is clearly the greatest of any Faith. Only religion to prominently post in its Bible a keg run.
Captcha: Zogider. Zog i das was? [[You atheists should be laughing at this -- see what I did there?]]
for serious though, "the divine" and "God" are terms which I use largely interchangeably. I generally feel that "the divine" is better when talking about the general existence/nonexistence of such a category of entity, since it works with all stripes of theism, whereas God has a very mono-centric implication.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Rob, you raised the site just like you -- it has devoured everything that comes near it, including my post.ReplyDelete
Captcha: Dissande. If you speak Italian, this reference sorta makes sense.
i wish it only devoured the posts of people i didn't likeReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 27, 2010 at 11:00 PM
Long post made short: Norse Reconstructionist has the greatest religious text. Proof? What other faith has a story about a keg run?ReplyDelete
Also, nuggins, people do make that argument. Also note the title this fellow chose to start his thread. For those of you too lazy to click links, example:
[...]it merely states that if god exists, he is evil, and therefore I would rather be atheist than believe in god
Captcha: Caemiesb. Caem i e onde?
- Anon 4:47December 28, 2010 at 1:22 AM
Ravenzomg is a neopagan, and it's somehow more right than Christianity
Not only that, but one of the central points of the religion is "affirming" how Christianity stole shit from them. THIS IS OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN. Read the stories and look at the pictures, it's like saying 2005 King Kong is a ripoff of 1933 King Kong. DUH
You only have to fight the Church over this, everyone else knows and/or doesn't care.
YET ATHEISTS ARE ASSHOLES FOR FIGHTING THE CHURCH. They aren't fighting the Church for the right reason!
All in a day's work for the JUDEAN PEOPLE'S FRONT
i'm fairly sure i used to not hate everyoneReplyDelete
*sigh* i liked those days
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 3:47 AM
Currently I'm trying to find a religion that worships moles. According to my gf, moles are sacred and related to Asclepius in old Greek myth, but I need something more substantial. Something more on the Egyptian levels of worshipping!ReplyDelete
...what, if you're gonna continue this suckass discussion, I'm gonna be non-sequiturish. As Rob said, "fuck you all".
Oh, and this:
- How many xkcd fans do you need to change a lightbulb?
- Pi. Because MATH IS COOL! LOLOLOL!
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 5:59 AM
We need another Ryan Learn-level idiot to derail things, because right now the comment threads are hella boring.ReplyDelete
@ 447ReplyDelete
I think the bottom line of those us who disagree with your line was more, morons are morons for being morons? On all sides of this?
Seriously I cop more flack and discrimination in my life as a VEGETARIAN than as an atheist. And this is after 12 years of Catholic schooling. There are plenty of believers in my life and somehow we all get along just fine. Something to do with none of us being dicks, I guess?
I can't imagine the hardships you must have endured as a non-believer. It's especially hard for me to imagine since, as a non-believer I've managed to dodge every single one of those, maybe completely by accident, while spending over half my life utterly immersed in a Christian environment. Perhaps I and every other atheist I've ever known are the lucky, lucky few?
@P.Mole - I wholeheartedly support your non-sequitirs and your quest to find a mole-centric belief system. Might I suggest you combine the two and found your own religion based on profound left-field mole comments? Also I would like to see a visual depiction of Pi people.
"I believe that knowledge of my dick is impossible"ReplyDelete
Also, I am saddened because I just realized I missed the most obvious "because Rob is fat" joke in the world.
But for serious, that is a far more concise definition of "the divine" than I'm used to. Most people seem to be too vague to be able to really discuss what it is exactly they believe in.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 7:27 AM
MykalT, have you ever heard the phrase "I've created a monster"? You might want to remember that. :DReplyDelete
So, where was I? Oh, yes. Pi people. Silly non-math-lover, Randall will never get in your head! Pi people are simply the result of dividing a circle of people by their radius! How can it not be simple.
Now, if you excuse me, I have a talpidean myth of creation to forge-- I mean, to research. Atheists, non-theists, theists, deists, pantheists, monarchists... tremble, for the claws of the Megatalpos shall hit Earth as soon as the Stillstones are gathered in the silence of our hearts!
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 7:27 AM
@Ann Apolis: Your problem is over-estimating people. I know it's nice to have hope for humanity, but honestly? Just don't. You're only going to be disappointed. Aim low, and one person in a hundred will pleasantly surprise you, rather than 99 percent of people showing you why you can't use sarcasm, generalization, hyperbole, or allegory [answer: they're too functionally illiterate to appreciate it].ReplyDelete
Anonymity doesn't make jerks of us all, it just turns us into morons somehow? Or is that the water supply? I've given up. You're all morons as far as I'm concerned until you redeem yourself with a)a name and b) evidence that you're functionally literate.
@Mole: Just claim you're a Mole re-constructionist. If anyone calls you on the fact that there never was a Mole-worshipping cult, tell them that they just haven't seen the Light yet, or alternately that they're just afraid to accept to Truth.
- AlsworthDecember 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM
Wait, I'm confused; so MykalT created Rob?ReplyDelete
He said 'a' monster, not 'the' =PReplyDelete
I'm pretty sure there's always BEEN a Moleism, but some crazy albino went to quite a bit of trouble to bury it all under a conspiracy some time ago. Still, the claws of Megatalpos are deep within all of us, every one, way down at the bottom of our hearts. To truly understand, you have to sniff hard and dig deep!
... how many people are in the circle? And what are their names?
captcha: brothers. No, seriously. I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy deep within my mole ... you have a mole.
I read the line in 837 as some sort of vague horror-movie-type reference. Like as in "oh no, the dying woman that I stole from has risen from the grave and is now buying stuff on the internet--give her shit for free!"ReplyDelete
I don't know if that makes the comic funny or not, that's just how I read it.
This discussion just reminded me about ravenzomg's extremely poor understanding of evolution.ReplyDelete
Fuck you rob, fuck your fat ass with a dildo stuck on an electric drill.
I was going to explain how my non-stamp collector was a perfect analogy when I realized it was fucking boring.ReplyDelete
Instead I'm just going to say that I'm an atheist because god must have made me this way.
still fucking boring i'm afraid. try again?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM
The Silence, sister Ravenzomg. It's the Silence of the Stone we seek. Only by keeping our paws on the ground we can feel the Silence of the Stone, and it shall tell us what to do, or else the talon of the ancients shall reap our souls corrupted by the falseness of the Word. Hear not the Dark Sound, child, for the Silence is the way to the sacred love of moledom.ReplyDelete
Oh, and Mykal: the people are xkcd fans. It's a circlejerk. Which give you a jerkpi, but it's as good as any pi.
All brothers and sisters live beneath the soft loam of death's garden, but Megatalpos' rough-hewn tunnels shall lead us to the worm of life, to eat and be one with the cloying dark of the universe. The mole-God resides in our hearts and shovels, and he winks from the center of every diamond. He pulses through the singing veins of every subterranean creature. Humanity must unite to begin our long journey to oneness with dirt.ReplyDelete
I feel like that Moliere guy from the Disney Atlantis movie would grok this religion pretty well. Also, I'll go ahead and assert manfully that there is no mole-God but Megatalpos and Professional is its prophet. May divine might embolden your noses and infuse your favorite digging claws, sojourners.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM
where do the mole people fit into this brave new world of yoursReplyDelete
"Would grok this religion"ReplyDelete
May you die the Death of a Thousand Angry Dicks.
Goddamn this comment thread is fucking boring, where's a pitchfork when you need one
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Man, fuck this blog.ReplyDelete
Rob's an unfunny obese pile of aspergers and cocksucking.
Why the hell did Carl leave? This place has gone to complete shit. Fuck it, I'm done. This place is as terrible as xkcd.
Rob, a single cuddlefish is unhappy with this blog and has left it.ReplyDelete
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Okay Rob, help me out here, cause I'm trying to figure out what kind of Atheist I am. Preferably, you'd be able to help me by creating some kind of online quiz that looks at your answers and gives you a result with a cute picture that I can link to my friends, but in the absence of that I'll just ask.ReplyDelete
As an Atheist, I would say that due to a significant lack of evidence for a god, that holding to the belief that there is no god, is justifiable, though I am ready to adjust my position when more evidence is presented.
I'm also one of the type who does not like organized religion not because of the belief in God, but because they're like unions. A very big union. Sometimes unions are good, they protect the rights and safeties of workers, and sometimes unions are bad, and they use their heavy weight to push their own agenda beyond what might have been reasonable. Except in this case, all the unions are essentially in competition with each other for members.
So yeah, where do I fit in on the Atheist spectrum? Can I call it a spectrum? Or is that being too arrogant? Like, there aren't enough types of Atheists to need a spectrum.
PS: Please include a cute picture of a bunny rabbit or kitten when you answer. Thank you.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Croaker, there is no god. There is the Stone and its Silence, and Megatalpos is the first ancient mole, whose talons carved the Earth. I am not a prophet, but a forger of canon, a teller of stories.ReplyDelete
Trust the Stone and your path on Earth shall be clear. Listen to the Silence, brother, and you shall find your way.
...okay, how bland must an xkcd be to people actually pay attention to my ramblings?
- AlsworthDecember 28, 2010 at 2:07 PM
We're just humoring you.ReplyDelete
I'm Roman Catholic, and I still like you all! Big hug now!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 5:44 PM
I have felt the Silence and it is beautiful.ReplyDelete
"Hear not the Dark Sound, child, for the Silence is the way to the sacred love of moledom."ReplyDelete
i am pretty sure you mean molestation
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 5:54 PM
May all hear the wisdom of the Prophet Rob -- he is all knowing, for he is everywhere.ReplyDelete
- CroakerDecember 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM
All good moles use the molestation. Not only do the tunnel-trains run completely soundlessly, augmenting the silence-song of their hearts, but it saves them gas money for their mole-cars.ReplyDelete
- UndercoverCuddlefishDecember 28, 2010 at 6:16 PM
what the fuck is a religionReplyDelete
if i did not know any better i would say you guys are making up words to troll people
a religion is like a moleucopia but far less coolReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM
All this talk about religion is making me horny.ReplyDelete
Making fun of people is easy to do. Is that really your best source of entertainment? Circle jerking yourself?. That's the shit jocks do.ReplyDelete
Rob must have a boring personality.
people still use the word "jocks"?ReplyDelete
I am pleased to see you did not have a good comeback, because that means I was right.ReplyDelete
- TheMesosadeDecember 28, 2010 at 8:54 PM
I think he said that because you're an idiot.ReplyDelete
no, no, this is important. what on earth possessed you to think that calling someone a "jock" in the year of our Lord two thousand and ten was in any way witty, clever, or useful? so clever, in fact, that you repeated the word a second time for emphasis on how clever you think it is?ReplyDelete
I mean, even ignoring the fact that in order for it to work I'd have to identify in some way with the insufferable nerds who still think that the world is out to get them, that stereotype and the worldview that produces it have both been dead for years.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 8:57 PM
talking about "jocks" in a derogatory way means you're either still in high school, or just totally incapable of moving onReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 8:59 PM
also "circle jerking yourself" is just called masturbationReplyDelete
and I believe masturbation is actually the sort of shit nerds do. jocks have girlfriends. haven't you been watching your 80s/90s teen movies?ReplyDelete
It is useful because it accurately summarizes the point I am trying to get across. I did not think it was clever or witty.ReplyDelete
it might if you live in your sad little world, but nobody else here does. maybe you could enlighten us as to why you, alone of all the people in the universe, still think the word "jocks" has edge or meaning?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM
did you know that, despite what 80s movies might tell you, "jocks" generally have larger penises than "nerds" and are (probably unrelated) generally better lovers?ReplyDelete
this is because "jocks" produce more testosterone during the early years of puberty. and because they have more confidence and are more popular, they get started having sex much earlier and thus are more experienced and skilled in the bedroom.
so suck it nerd
I believe it has meaning because it has a common definition that most people understand, demonstrated by the responses here. I do not believe it has edge.ReplyDelete
so you're saying that I'm athletic and have a cheerleader girlfriend? how is that conveying the message you're trying to get across?ReplyDelete
(ps, if you don't think it has edge you should probably not use it when you are trying to insult people. just fyi)ReplyDelete
No, you misunderstand. The definition of "jock" is not what I was using to convey the message I was trying to get across. The word "jock" was what I was using to convey the message I was trying to get across. The definition of the word "jock" was the actual message I was trying to get across.ReplyDelete
I misunderstand because the word "jock" in this context is completely and utterly bereft of meaning. but since you asked, I did date a cheerleader in high school, so I guess guilty as charged!ReplyDelete
still not sure why you particularly care whether or not I'm a jock though, or why you think I am one. well, I am--you're one of those nerds with a persecution complex who thinks that anyone who makes fun of your ingroups is a jock. but I'm pretending, for your benefit, really, that you actually have the capability in that little nerdy brain of yours of understanding social groups on their most basic level.
I sense I'm being too generous.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 9:29 PM
So... we're going to bitch about atheists believing something that we don't because atheists bitch too much about us believing something that they don't. Everyone bitching must use sweeping generalizations about the group that they don't belong to while insisting that the group that they do belong to is far more diverse than any such generalization would account for. First group to invoke Godwin's Law wins.ReplyDelete
Sound fun, you guys?
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 9:30 PM
XKCD840: I'm not baffled at the simple pun here, but I am baffled at why Randall made a comic about this. It's just... ah, who am I kidding? People are going to print this off and show it to all their friends saying how hilarious it is.ReplyDelete
So what's the deal with airline food?
You have confused me. I did not ask whether or not you are a jock, nor did I accuse you of being one. I simply mentioned that you share a common personality trait.ReplyDelete
You have surprised me, however, with your false assessment. You never made fun of my ingroup, therefore I never reacted, so I never gave you any evidence to believe that I am a nerd with a persecution complex.
keep telling yourself that, kiddo. I'm sure you're totally able to say what you meant and just choose not to.ReplyDelete
but you are right about one thing. I don't own every piece of Green Lantern merchandise ever released, so you would probably find me boring. c'est la vie! have fun being jealous of my athleticism and cheerleader girlfriends.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 9:39 PM
840 is fixed with the magic of MS Paint.ReplyDelete
Experiment is over.ReplyDelete
Results are conclusive.
or put another way: LOL I TROLL UReplyDelete
I'm atheist. I'm fine with religion.ReplyDelete
Did the world just explode? I think not.
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 10:12 PM
The problem with jocks and sexuality is that all jocks ever think about is sport, while all nerds ever think about is sex. I learnt that from Revenge of the Nerds and had it confirmed by sexkcd.ReplyDelete
- UndercoverCuddlefishDecember 28, 2010 at 10:35 PM
what do you call somebody who spends the vast majority of his time thinking about something other than sports or sexReplyDelete
captcha: nuking
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 10:41 PM
You agree with 'LOL I TROLL YOU' Rob?
So why continue trolling?
is that not what just happened? /b/ posted some stupid shit, everyone made fun of him for being stupid, and then he tried to bow out by saying 'EXPERIMENT CONCLUDED SUCKERSSSSSS'ReplyDelete
that is the exact storyline of 'LOL I TROLL U'
He did call himself /b/ so it's not likely that he ever thought he'd be taken seriouslyReplyDelete
The irony is lost on Rob.ReplyDelete
the irony that a group of mouthbreathing idiots produced a mouthbreathing idiot?ReplyDelete
Nope, try again.ReplyDelete
you do realize that saying stupid things "on purpose" and getting people to make fun of said stupid things is not clever trolling, right?ReplyDelete
This is too easy. You're so predictable.ReplyDelete
yeah, I have this thing where I like making fun of people who are as retarded as you are. when you persist in being retarded I'll persist in making fun of you! you're so clever for figuring that out.ReplyDelete
How jockish of you.ReplyDelete
Meh: "So why continue trolling?"ReplyDelete
Rob: "is that not what just happened?"
I was referring to your confessed pension for trolling atheists, et al. You seem fine with trolling (for no other purpose than to rile people up) and yet you attempt to denounce it by linking to 'LOL I TROLL YOU'.
That was exactly my point.ReplyDelete
"I was referring to your confessed pension for trolling atheists, et al. You seem fine with trolling (for no other purpose than to rile people up) and yet you attempt to denounce it by linking to 'LOL I TROLL YOU'."ReplyDelete
there is a difference between trolling, and attempting to withdraw from a conversation in which you have been thoroughly denounced as an idiot by saying "LOL I TROL U." one of them doesn't require acknowledgment. the other is a sad ploy to save face. I'll leave you in your infinite wisdom to figure out which one is which.
"That was exactly my point."
sure it was, honey.
protip: latching on to the nearest remotely intelligent point that sort of agrees with you doesn't make you appear clever by proxy. sorry!
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:12 PM
So serious = not wanting to be touched?ReplyDelete
Does that mean silly = wanting to be touched?
He really could have actually had the putty say something that was serious instead of a matter of fact statement to an action.
I am like two (2) steps ahead of you with every comment.ReplyDelete
hey, Danth's law!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:21 PM
What word am I allowed to use if somebody asks me about my religious beliefs Rob? Do I have to pretend to be theistic?ReplyDelete
I quite liked going to church (I lived in a small village where church was unavoidable because the only school was religiously-oriented). It's like a fun history tour with songs.
Also, as far as I can tell you're upset about people being militant about their non-belief. Almost militantly so. There should be a word for people who think they're above being an atheist despite actually being one. A nice shortening of "contrarian ultradick" might be appropriate.
Joke's on you, I don't even know what that is.ReplyDelete
@Anon: There's an xkcd comic about exactly that. See? It applies to everything!
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM
The Serious Putty comic is a good example of why Randall can't write or convey (of course, he doesn't need to because he's cornered the market for people getting a kick out of just recognising tech/science things that they can use for boasting purposes). He has come up with the idea of serious putty, and just presented it as plain fact. The best way he could make that into what he views as an acceptable comic was to get the putty to show that it is serious by being a bit grumpy and not up for playing. Ha. Hahaha. Ha. Ball pit. Hah ah aha. Shit.ReplyDelete
This is what you get when you have a fan base that lets you get away with not trying.
poor baby doesn't know how to use google :(ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:31 PM
"contrarian ultradick" - One who contradicks.ReplyDelete
I was certain you wouldn't go for that one. "It's too easy" I thought. I'm giving you too much credit I guess.ReplyDelete
see previous comment w/r/t "when you do stupid shit, I will make fun of you for it." being too stupid to use google is included under "doing stupid shit!" I'm not sure why you feel accomplished for doing this.ReplyDelete
perhaps this is why our education system is so broken. children are intentionally putting down the wrong answers because they feel a sense of smug accomplishment when they predict that their teacher will correct them for it later.
I think our education system is broken because they're teaching Intelligent Design as if it was science. god does not exist, wake up.ReplyDelete
but that doesn't explain how you're so incredibly stupid. or was that genetic?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Surely you can tell the difference between stupidity and poor education?ReplyDelete
And surely you're not so autistic that you took /b/'s "I don't even know what that is" message at face value, rather than as the jokey banter it was obviously intended as?
Sorry I'm so angry. I was just imagining how awful it would be if an atheist used a irrelevant blog to rant about religious people. What a cunt that person would be!
No, YOU'RE a poo head.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 28, 2010 at 11:58 PM
LOL /b/ likes to play with cunts what a homoReplyDelete
- CroakerDecember 29, 2010 at 1:03 AM
You guys have been just grand, but I've really got to scuttle on down to the molestation. Your future overlords, seated upon their silent thrones at the heart of the dread city of Yeh'Ryl, shall be glad to hear of your apparent receptivity to their black faith.ReplyDelete
- TheMesosadeDecember 29, 2010 at 2:59 AM
I think I'm gonna have to side with Rob on this one.ReplyDelete
The only poo head here is /b/.
- AnonymousDecember 29, 2010 at 3:21 AM
/b/, read my writings and seek the Silence. Because silent you're way less likely to make a damn fool out of yourself!ReplyDelete
So, new comic, let's leave my Horwood inspired homilies aside for a while.
...it's a pun. A pretty obvious pun. And... not very attached to the punchline.
Randall is regressing to elementary school level, folks. This is so stupid I'm having trouble gathering my thoughts to bash this shit properly!
- your father's vaginaDecember 29, 2010 at 4:19 AM
Any Atheists genuinely hurt or offended by rob's comments have self esteem issues. And also extremely poor trollsenseReplyDelete
Anything would have made the serious punchline better.ReplyDelete
"Whoa! Serious putty? Does that mean I can't do anything fun with it?"
"Srs bsns only"
Atheism is a solved problem: If there were a God, how could there be an xkcd? All atheists can now relax.ReplyDelete
rob ate a cheerleader in high school?ReplyDelete
new comic: so bad
^what about malicious or apathetic gods? maybe xkcd was meant to balance out all the good things in life, making it meaningful?
- Anon 4:47December 29, 2010 at 8:09 AM
@MykalT, I'm glad to hear your atheism goes unmolested. Or does it?ReplyDelete
I don't know where you live, but:
(1) In the U.S. it is effectively impossible for an atheist to be elected to any vaguely important public office. Even if they don't run on an atheist platform or emphasize atheism in any way.
(2) In South America the same is true. What's more, many important media outlets will not hesitate to impugn the reputation of atheism on absolutely no grounds. A recent major case was a newscaster saying that a certain gruesome murder "could only be caused by not having god in one's heart". Moreover atheist ad campaigns are routinely refused by billboards, buses etc on grounds of "offense". You may venture a guess as to whether christian ads are subject to similar treatment.
(3) In the Middle East religion is a major source of law. They routinely stone widows for "adultery", apostasy warrants death, and in the last couple of months Israel has been trying to make its citizens pledge allegiance to a "jewish state".
(4) In India politicians must not only be religious but some higher-ups actually have sorcerers in their staff.
(5) Still in the second decade of the 20th century the catholic church used its influence over South America, Portugal, Spain and Italy to delay for years or decades the legalization of (civil!) divorce.
(6) In most countries of the western world it was legally required until relatively recently that ALL government employees be christian.
Maybe you skipped over the wall of text. But here's the fallacy that the atheist-bashers like to commit: restrict attention to people's private lives.
Maybe everyone is an asshole at a personal level, or maybe everyone gets along at the family dinner, but one of the groups is having their societal rights trampled on a much more regular basis. Whether anyone SOUNDS ARROGANT or COPS FLACK is a laughably irrelevant concern. Probably a lot of gay activists sound arrogant to the Pope, but hey, maybe the Pope's delicate sensibilities aren't as important as equal rights for everyone?
I have yet to see an argument against atheists that could not be directly applied to the gay movement. "Oh shut up it's not so bad", "you're coming off arrogant", "some of my best friends are atheists".
OK, maybe the insane counterfactual "if atheists were in charge they would segregate religious people, therefore SHUT UP".
Fight the powa!!ReplyDelete
On an xkcd hate blog ya'll.
Disclaimer: Atheist.
Atheists are people, too.ReplyDelete
Therefore, not all atheists are the same.
- RochambeauDecember 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Nope the last one works too. If gays were in charge, they would probably persecute straight people.ReplyDelete
- RochambeauDecember 29, 2010 at 9:23 AM
And by 'persecute' I mean 'bum'.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM
Let's put the gays in charge so that the local gay newspaper can become the city newspaper, that'd brighten my day and then I'd always know where to get good leather.ReplyDelete
@Rochambeau: "Burn" here is a sexually-based metaphor I assume.
My little brother came up with the idea of serious putty when he was 3.ReplyDelete
Just sayin'.
- RochambeauDecember 29, 2010 at 10:40 AM
I'm not the author of the second comment bearing my name, but I will explain the pun. See, in British English, bum means butt, and to bum means to have sexual intercourse in the bum. On the other hand, to bum (or more precisely to bum s.o. out) means to cause him/her to be disappointed or depressed, which is a close, albeit not perfect, substitute for to persecute.
I was just underlying how relevant I found Anon 447's point: "I have yet to see an argument against atheists that could not be directly applied to the gay movement."
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- AnonymousDecember 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM
@Rochambeau: All the more reason to get a cheap tinny blogger account.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM
....to avoid impersonation. I'm afraid you're still equally [if not more] viable for sodomy.ReplyDelete
The latest comic would be mildly funny if it weren't for the alt text. What the fuck is PuTTY and why would Randall ever think that was funny?ReplyDelete
"If gays were in charge, they would probably persecute straight people."ReplyDelete
well they deserve it, fucking breeders
Atheists are just angry because they know deep down they will burn in hell.ReplyDelete
Am I making it too obvious? >.>
rob you idiot "cannonball" is AWESOMEReplyDelete
- UndercoverCuddlefishDecember 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM
@thepirateking as with all of randalls attempts at humor the answer to your question can be googledReplyDelete
as for why randy would think it was funny
well he is randall munroe and writes xkcd for starters
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- AnonymousDecember 29, 2010 at 7:50 PM
"What the fuck is PuTTY and why would Randall ever think that was funny?"ReplyDelete
PuTTY is a popular remote terminal emulator. You've seriously never heard of it?
"@MykalT, I'm glad to hear your atheism goes unmolested. Or does it?"ReplyDelete
Well geez, when you put it THAT way, I guess some dude on the other side of the planet WOULD have a better idea of how my life runs than the voices that live in my head.
"I don't know where you live ..."
You hurt my feelings, you couldn't figure out where I live simply by the fact that I referred to myself as an Aussie and briefly mentioned that my Nana's opinion on the Australian PM is based on her religious views? (Not to mention the use of phrases such as, "cop flack", whose scope you as a non-Australian may have misunderstood. I forgive you, we're proud of being incomprehensible for some reason.)
How can I be expected to read every single word you write when you don't extend the same courtesy to me?
To be fair, I live in China at the moment, though. (And atheists do MORE than okay over here, you'll just have to take my word for it okay cos I don't know what kind of slander you capitalists have been exposed to over there!) I made a bad joke about them being pro-xkcd a while back. My gut tells me that I am right, clearly they block all of blogspot to conceal the existence of the growing anti-xkcd movement within.
"Maybe you skipped over the wall of text. But here's the fallacy that the atheist-bashers like to commit: restrict attention to people's private lives."
Nah, I didn't, and no, I don't,. Are you insinuating that I am a self-hating atheist? =S
Anyway, the point that you are not quite getting is that you are getting cause and effect sorely muddled. The fact that religion is used as an excuse or a tool to persecute others does not mean that the persecution stems from religious belief, but rather the tendency of people to be small-minded fools.
Atheists and Christians are all the same in the eyes of the Muslims in charge in Malaysia, for example. Muslims and atheists are pretty much the same as far as the Fundie Christians that America is so famous for producing are concerned. Contrary to popular belief, Buddhists haven't done that much better historically, and there have been tons of examples of people without religion going after religious groups, too. It's not that atheists are being singled out, it's the tendency of idiots within groups to think everyone should believe the same thing that they do - and atheists are by no means special in this respect. We've got our own ranting lunatics too.
You might say, "okay well that doesn't mean we shouldn't DO something about it!!!" Okay, sure. Keep yelling at people in a panicked and indignant tone on the internet. It's us against EVERY MAJOR RELIGION IN THE WORLD, all at the same time, all over the place. You've sure got me converted to the cause. What's our next move, chief?
- AnonymousDecember 29, 2010 at 10:18 PM
I'm atheist. :)ReplyDelete
- AnoNestorDecember 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM
"d) that it is morally okay -- no, it is our duty!-- to screw strangers without hesitation and experiment with whatever we can get our hands on, because the Church can't stop us now, Darling!"ReplyDelete
Best religion ever! Ok back to lurking.


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