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Monday, October 13, 2008
Game Facets and Multiple Specs
Let's start at the beginning. There are three "facets" to WoW: Group PvE, solo play in the world, and Group PvP. Many individual players want to able to participate in all three facets without going to a capital city and respeccing. The system Blizzard is designing theoretically allows you to do this, but it also allows you to change spec *within* a facet, as well. As Ghostcrawler puts it, "Since dps is your primary concern most of the time, this gives you a way to have say a trash spec and a boss spec, or a cc spec and pewpew spec without hurting your performance on either. "
Effectively, there are two goals:
Goal 1 - Participate in all 3 facets
Goal 2 - Have flexibility within a single facet
The problem here is that there is a conflict between individual and group. The individual wants to be able to participate in all three facets. The group prefers that the individual optimizes for the group's specific facet, and exerts significant pressure on the individual to do so. The group does this because it wants to be successful, not because it's on a power trip, and having the individual members optimized for the group's purpose helps significantly.
In the past, people have always optimized for the group. Spec, loot systems, loot priority, role, professions, buffs. Dual-spec systems will be no different. The system Blizzard is outlining will succeed with Goal 2, but fail to meet Goal 1. Both specs will be dedicated to a single facet of the game, especially for hybrids.
The only way to meet Goal 1 is for the game system to mechanically enforce the separation between facets.
For example, if one spec was only enabled in instances and the other spec was only enabled in Arena and Battlegrounds, then that would enforce an individual's ability to participate in all facets of the game. A group cannot pressure the individual into using two PvE specs, as the game physically prevents it.
The price here is that you lose the flexibility within a facet, you've now failed to meet Goal 2. Even so, I suspect that most individuals would probably prefer this solution, to be able to switch between PvP and PvE, or raiding and farming.
There are other solutions. For example, if you expanded to being able to switch between 3 or 5 specs, you could do:
Spec 1 - enabled in PvE
Spec 2 - enabled in PvE, world, PvP
Spec 3 - enabled in PvP
This would allow you to participate in multiple facets, but still have some flexibility in the group situation of your choice.
The ideal amount of flexibility would be something like:
Spec 1 - enabled in PvE, world
Spec 2 - enabled in PvE, world
Spec 3 - enabled in world
Spec 4 - enabled in world, PvP
Spec 5 - enabled in world, PvP
Note that spec 3 simply cannot be used in PvP or PvE. It's a guaranteed farming or personal spec. The game needs to enforce separation of facets, and prevent one facet from monopolizing all the character's resources. However, this is not as simple a solution, and might be too much flexibility.
29 comments:
Considering we have very little information to work on, most of this is pure speculation. I would hope that the design stays true to its original goal of allowing a player to have different specs for two different aspects of the game.ReplyDelete
However, I agree that it isn't a stretch to see players having both dual specs optimized for raiding, either as two seperate hybrid roles, (i.e Prot Paladin, Ret Paladin) or worse, one spec dedicated to improved buffs and other obscure utility. It's easy to foresee a raid encounter that needs x DPS and y healers, followed by one that requires y dps and x healers, forcing a hybrid to dual spec two raiding specs.
I can also see Paladins being "forced" into having one of their dual specs with Kings in the event that (an)other paladin(s) do(es) not have it.
I can also see exclusive PvPers having two different arena specs, one optimized to fight a specific team or class combination, and simply changing whilst in queue for another game.
This change, while well intended, seems to have a high possibility for abuse.
I would hope that the design stays true to its original goal of allowing a player to have different specs for two different aspects of the game.ReplyDelete
That's what I want too. But judging by Ghostcrawler's comments, Blizzard is intent on allowing a player to have two different specs for the *same* aspect of the game. It's really hard to interpret "trash spec and boss spec" any other way.
The new system is bound to get taken over and abused by raid leaders, but that's inevitable. I've come to the sad realization that someone, somewhere, will find a way to call you selfish because you're not playing how he wants you to play. It's a bit ironic.ReplyDelete
At least now people aren't losing 100g every switch back and forth. When I was prot I hated dailies. I either had to spend 100g round trip, canceling out a huge piece of the rewards from dailies, or stay prot and deal with the tedium of having terrible damage.
This fixes absolutely nothing, but it at least makes the unfixable problem a lot less painful.
It's not that raid leaders are selfish, it's just that they want to be successful.ReplyDelete
Will the raid be more successful if people use a PvE spec instead of a PvP spec? Yes.
Will the raid be more successful if people use PvE gear instead of PvP gear? Yes.
Will the raid be more successful if people are flasked and use full consumables all the time? Yes.
Will the raid be more successful if people have professions geared towards raiding rather than making money? Yes.
Will the raid be more successful if people have dual-PvE specs rather than 1 PvE spec and 1 PvP spec? Yes.
The group wants to be successful, and pressures the individual to optimize for the group's success. Where is the line drawn? You probably object to raid leaders asking for dual-PvE spec, but are you happy with a rogue showing up to a raid with some PvP Shadowstep build, for example?
Everyone is selfish in their own special ways. We're all unique and beautiful flowers that want everything. Selfishness isn't as bad as people claim. It drives everything. If we were truly selfless we'd all shoot ourselves and plant seeds in our corpses to fertilize plants. That would be pretty stupid, wouldn't it?ReplyDelete
Why does the raid leader care about the group? It's in his own interests. He's selfish. He wants to advance and he's going to figure out how to get 9-24 other people to work with him to do it.
I'd tell the rogue to get out unless he planned to spec for his role. A PvP specced DPS is no different than a holy paladin trying to tank. For my own specs, I'll spec whatever gives the best combination of fun (with getting into raids being an aspect of fun) and RLs can take it or leave it. With two specs to pick from, the odds are good that I'll get at least one that I like.
- Anonymous6:53 PM, October 13, 2008
I really don't see the issue with people using the dual specs to min/max raiding or arenas. Blizzard is (possibly) giving us the ability to change specs as we want, how people utilise that tool is up to them. Hardcore raiders will welcome being able to swap to the best utility for the raid.ReplyDelete
For me, my pally will be holy/prot specced because tbh I've never had an issue with doing damage and levelling, and I really enjoy tanking.
People will use this ability however best suits them.
I posted a couple of days ago about this as well.ReplyDelete
I am not sure how this is going to shake out either. Having dual specs will be game changing to say the least.
One way I see to limit the forced speccing (although I would leave the guild that tried to force me into a spec) would be a cooldown on this.
Thinking maybe an hour or so between changes.
Indeed this was what I was thinking...ReplyDelete
Instant thought... WOO I can dual spec Korath for PVE tanking and then a Ret PVP spec! Funky!
Then more or less straight away I thought oh bollox its not going to happen like that. I'm going to have to have a Tanking Spec and maybe an off-healing spec purely for PVE.
Ok its my choice if I wanted to do that right? Wrong. RL has the choice between 2 tanks... 1 tank has a 2nd spec which can off-DPS or off-Heal and I have a 'substandard' PVP 2nd spec. He's going to take the other tank :P
I agree with your Idea that you should have a spec that switches when you go into Arena or BG areas.
- Anonymous7:33 PM, October 13, 2008
I don't want forced spec switching based on location (instance, BG, etc.). My paladin's healing spec works well enough when I do PvP. I want my second spec to be tanking, so I can help when we are short. And, yes, this means two sets of gear and inscriptions, but it's better than running up a second paladin so that I have a tank.ReplyDelete
The specs should be switchable at any time you are not in combat. Period.ReplyDelete
Why? As a Prot pally I am next to useless in solo, and totally screwed if going as the OT in part of the instance where you only need a MT. In this scenario I can switch to my other spec and add healing or damage.
You can sub in any of the classes that have more than one role; be it dps, healing, or tanking.
There will be so many times that this is advantageous to the community to make the situations where it hurts totally moot.
If it is implemented as a pvp vs pve spec, then its totally useless to raiders, and totally useless to me.
This is not abuse of a system, this is a totally new way of playing the game. In affect the system design has changed to make several roles in the game viable. I welcome it, and hope they make it far easier to get groups, runs, do events, etc. Thats why we pay money for this game.
Leave it to the player to decide what spc they choos eto use for what activity; not forcing a pvp spec.
For my paladin I'm probably going to wind up with two PvE specs; a holy and a prot. I'm already holy, but I also enjoy tanking. I probably would not want to raid tank, especially on progression content (I don't think my nerves could take it), but I like the idea that I could swap between healing one day and tanking the next. I'll never lack for a group.ReplyDelete
What I don't like is the instant switching. That just seems abusive and as mentioned, it could open up both specs being spoken for by a raid. If there was a cooldown then it's more likely the player could keep the second spec for him or herself.
Considering that I like healing, tanking, and pvp, it would be fantastic if I could have specs for each, but I think that's a little greedy.
Even an hour cooldown may end up being too short (though they say that the average instance will take 45 minutes - 1 hour and a half). If they wanted to prohibit switching in one run, I'd imagine it would have to be a 4 hour - 24 hour cooldown.ReplyDelete
That said, I would want to be able to spec and glyph Ret for dailies, events and solo leveling, then spec/glyph holy for instances. I share your fear that the "hardcore" player would be forced to spec one flavor of holy (or prot, or whatever) for trash and one flavor for bosses. Or even have two identical specs with different glyphs to take advantage of the Avenger's Shield glyph or not depending on fight. But then these hypothetical hardcore people are the kind who level enchanting to max in order to get ring enchants then drop it for jewelcrafting/blacksmithing for the sockets.
Thank god my guild is seven people I eat lunch with and not some far flung group of Type A crazy people.
I hear what is being said, but honestly I think any more then 2 specs and we start getting a little crazy. A raid boss would start demanding 3 specs if we had 3. Or 4 if we had 4. Really it's all about how YOU want to play. Is getting in that raid worth giving up your personal speccing?ReplyDelete
Me personally, I'd tell Mr. Raid leader to take a flying leap. 1 spec I will have for grouping (My Prot spec) and one I will have for ME (Likely Retribution). And if he don't like it, then I simply will find somewhere else to play. Of course that's easy for me to say. I think the raids are far more trouble then they are worth. I'd like to see the content... ONCE. I don't care about the "ub3r l33t g34r", and honestly I could care less about trying to repeat the same part of a raid for months just to get everyone geared up. Not worth it to me. For me, my grouping spec is for the 5 man instances that I occasionally run with a friend, or to cover my friend while we Duo our way through new content.
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- Anonymous1:18 AM, October 14, 2008
I think its gonna be great. A lot of these comments & analysis sound like pure speculation. I dont know what sort of guilds ppl move in, or even if these comments about guild/raid leaders come from real experience. For my guild its going to solve a lot of issues eg with tanks being unneccessary for certain parts of the fights - cue switch to healing/dps gear. People will always find excuses to be selfish, and if thats the case, you must be in the wrong guild. Us players are always blaming blizzard for factors they cant control, whereas they're trying to make the game more fun for ppl - assuming you're playing with good people, that is.ReplyDelete
To be honest, despite being in one of the top PvE guilds (Death and Taxes), I've never been "forced" into anything I didn't enjoy. Rather, I felt like I was letting my guild down if I did not perform to the best of my abilities, maximize my gear, enchants and talents. I've raided in the past as a sub optimal spec, with pvp gems or enchants, or without the use of consumables.ReplyDelete
Successful guilds don't usually have harsh requirements. Generally, the people in the guild want to be successful, and will do their best for the sake of the guild. If the game becomes a job, and people start to view it as such, what's to stop them from simply joining another guild if it offers better benefits, or a higher chance of items? I'd assume that the majority of guilds would rather their members enjoy themselves. Player burnout is a problem for every guild, big or small, successful or not. If this change lessens it even a little, it will be very welcome.
I think you're right that you can't give players the choice or they will choose (voluntarily or otherwise) to optimize. It may actually be even worse than you're suggesting, as they're saying that the second spec will a second set of glyphs. You may be looking at two copies of the exact same raid boss spec in order to work around the ban on swapping glyphs in the field.ReplyDelete
That said, I think you may also have put your finger on why Blizzard isn't going the route you suggest - by the time you're allowing players access to FIVE separate specs (2-3 different ones at any given time), you might as well just allow people to respec on the fly at any time. Even the dual spec plan as it exists takes away a lot of the cost of having a highly specialized spec.
- Orgauth6:21 AM, October 14, 2008
I can see my utilization of this being two PvE specs, from two different trees. Some bosses you need more tank than others, so I'll likely be carrying multiple gear sets for Prot and Ret specs as the situation requires. I'd love to just have PvE/PvP for Ret - but my guild values my utility to competantly play either role.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous7:01 AM, October 14, 2008
Even if it only solves goal #2, it is an improvement and a good thing. Many people WANT to make their hybrids more effective inside one single facet. If I am more likely to help my raid by being able to switch to healing on one fight when the needs change, I think that rocks that I can now attend the raid and contribute.ReplyDelete
I believe that in all but the most catass of guilds it will also solve goal #1. If a person's time is not mostly dedicated to raiding then they will save a spec for PvP or whatever they love to do. If they love PvP they may dedicate both specs to that activity.
Bottom line is people are free to put their specs in the activities they like to do. If they are in a guild that forces them to use both specs for raiding, that person probably loves to PvE. Or they are stupid and in the wrong guild.
I see this as the single greatest improvement to the game I have seen in my 3 years of play. I think sometimes we can really sometimes be a bunch of whiners just looking for the next thing to complain about.
~ Jason DPS Liberation Front
I see this as the single greatest improvement to the game I have seen in my 3 years of play. I think sometimes we can really sometimes be a bunch of whiners just looking for the next thing to complain about.ReplyDelete
They throw us a bone and people want the world. Be happy they are even giving us the ability to have two spec's, stop bitching and suck it up. If you don't like it feel free to not use it and pay 50g every time you want to respec.
I agree with what Azrael said, by and large.ReplyDelete
I'll likely have two PvE specs, but that's because I want to, not because my raid asks me to. I simply don't enjoy the PvP game, and as a shadowpriest, my main spec gives me plenty of solo capabilities.
If I were in a guild that required their raiders to have two PvE specs, I'd probably say bye bye.
But you're right - we can't even fathom what people will use this for.
I personally think it's great, I am going to use one spec for holy and one spec for prot. I like the utility that if my guild needs heals, I can do it to a good degree and if they need a tank, same thing. All it does is improve our versitility.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous1:56 PM, October 14, 2008
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The Master of the Modal vs fluid hybrid debate why complain about Blizz making it possible for us modal types to almost be fluid again?
It's still Modal. Fluid requires being able to switch in combat.ReplyDelete
I'm not saying it's a bad situation. It's just that it comes at a price. If you switch between tanking and healing, you cannot switch between PvE and PvP.
Flexibility within one aspect of the game vs. flexibility to participate in multiple aspects.
It's further complicated by the interests of the group vs the individual. The individual may be focused on multiple aspects, but the group is only focused on one aspect. That will cause tension and drama if/when the interests conflict.
What it comes down to is "what problem do we want dual-specs to solve?" If we want to provide more flexibility in raiding--rather than port back to capital, respec, and summon--then this solution will work well. If we want to have one spec for PvE and one spec for PvP, I think this solution will work less well.
- Anonymous4:19 PM, October 14, 2008
in 90% of cases it solves both goal #1 and goal #2.ReplyDelete
In the 10% of the cases where a person is in a guild that does not share thier focus of interest (usually the catass raiding guild is where the conflict might occur), then it solves only goal #2.
You've not explained how this leaves us worse off than we were before...
~Jason, DPS Liberation Front
"But judging by Ghostcrawler's comments, Blizzard is intent on allowing a player to have two different specs for the *same* aspect of the game. It's really hard to interpret "trash spec and boss spec" any other way."ReplyDelete
I actually don't see this at all. If you actually looked at the whole of the comment (and all the other comments), this specific snipped was used in relation to a pure DPS class' worry about raiding. That's it, nothing else. In may other comments they've specifically said that it's to allow players to better switch between game styles, or to allow OTs/OHs to switch when they're not needed.
Many other comments have stated that they want this to be used for a player who PvPs and PvEs, and needs a different spec for each (say, a Paladin). Here's a really good example, in fact, where GC talks about how they don't want to impose too many limits SPECIFICALLY because they want to allow players to switch between game modes quickly as situations occur: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10972113408-the-restrictions-dualspec-needs-to-succeed.html
But in general I have to agree with some of the other comments so far. The blues have been pretty clear in saying that anything they say now is to be taken with a grain of salt, because they haven't really figured out any details.
Maybe I am missing something obvious, but why don't they just make respecs free, and keep everything else the same as it has been?ReplyDelete
Because its a waste of time, and effort.ReplyDelete
Respeccing costs little, and is basically a portal+summon to get back, its already nearly instant, the 50g merely puts it out of the range of casual respeccing (my record is 500g in a day respeccing characters).
For Hybrids like Paladins (or rather especially Paladins) you really need the ability to shift between multiple "forms" to use abilities because we don't get many baseline abilities that are useful. Sure as protection I can spam flash of light till the end of time, but I am not actually healing or enjoying it, just spamming (literally, as Prot I have spammed FoL for an entire illidan fight bar the running parts :P).
I don't think its really an issue to stop respecs, or adding a big cooldown to it, people will just respec normally. What you are instead punishing is the person that wants to actually be useful, to enjoy some pvp then go tank for their friends, or swap tank to healer to help you in a run. Sure pure DPS classes suffer a little in terms of what they can do, but my lock could swap to a demo build and have more fun in trash (I can't dps or I pull, though pulling is fun), or keep an sl/sl spec around for pvp, or heaven forbid a destro spec without nether protection (since being immune to bosses makes them go and hit others). It has a lot of uses, and a lot of ways to make it fun, I like the idea of something like Diablo 2, switch gear out, but this time with glyphs and talents as well, WoW isn't a fixed talent game, its a fluid game, if you want fixed talents then you need to have a game like diablo.
The feral druid's natural ability to switch between tanking and dps roles without respecs has shown both how this is valuable, and how there isn't too much need for it. I anticipate a couple people happily using their dual-specs for tank/dps options, and a couple people using their dual-specs for fight-optimization (such as lock tanking leo). Most raids won't make requirements on most people's dual specs because it's just too complicated to organize and provides little benefit.ReplyDelete
Further, an unrestricted dual-spec feature will significantly improve the current 'healer tank disincentive'. Players who raid as prot warriors/paladins or healers must choose between expensive respecs or participate in farming and dailies with an ineffective spec. DPS classes, on the other hand, have no such disincentive. They can participate broadly in their one spec (even if not entirely optimized for any area). I doubt raids will expect tanks to have two different tanking specs, or healers to have two different healer specs, leaving them their other spec for some type of dps or balanced dps/pvp spec for other areas of the game.


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Keyshia Cole has been really acting out lately and now we may know why...
Last night Keyshia sent a few thinly veiled sub-Tweets that suggest all is not well in her marriage to Daniel 'Boobie' Gibson.
Who gives a shit?!
I like that quote.
She is Frankie's child. O.0
daniel is foine!! fuck keysha
This oakland hoodbogger needs to stop the madness ....insecure clucks always wear their emotions on their sleeves.... in this case social network... go back to international blvd....dummy
lmaoooo @ the 1st 2:49 post ...yesss lmaooooo
Why was their reality show given the green light in the first place?
co-signing with everybody up here^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If she would focus on her husband and stay the hell off twitter maybe she would be better off.
Keyshia, please go have several executive seats on Maury- I think he's just located your father
@3:08. What more can I say?
Men are such assholes....always creeping
Frankie could have and should have swallowed that one.
This was too damn obvious...she's miserable and bitter, and is using her pain to antagonise and bully Michelle. If she put half as much energy into her marriage as she does dissing Michelle, she'd be a lot happier. And she wouldn't have time to engage in online fuckery!
With saying that after watching her show. I think Boobie's too good for her. Given how stank her attitude is i don't see her marriage being a life long commitment.
You'd think with her being married she'd mature and grow as a person, as opposed to regressing and going backwards. She's such a dummy! I agree with the poster up top, Boobie needs to RUUUUNNNNNN!!!!
This bitch is nutz!
Show a boy that your a ratchet ass hoodrat and he'll stay and encourage your nonsense. Show a man that your a ratchet ass hoodrat and he consults his lawyers to find the best way out. REAL TALK.
Always remember ugly people say ugly things. Keyshia is very ugly on the inside. I remember when she first came out and she was on a promo with Neyo. Her attitude was so bad. She really needs to grow up and do an internal cleanse
Lmfao 3:36 Truth! N she doesn't need a reality show if u want to know what goes on in her life just follow her on twitter smh.
Yeah I'm starting to think Keyshia has a chemical imbalance which is making her mentally ill she was born under the influence or Frankie was still using when preggers because she isn't acting like a mature married adult who is a mother. She need to stay off twitter PERIOD.
A girl a woman a hoe a bitch. They all chase me. I don't give a damn.
sang it wif' me y'all..."when a women's fed up...."
Keyshia is a P-I-M-P all day. Hell to the yes a real woman aint got no time for games. She WILL let yer ass fall on the cold hard floor. Booby better get it together and stop playing.
Keyshia is the type of women not used to being and having a nice man. She is used to fighting snd arguing and crappy men . She needs to be with someone that treats her like garbage. She doesn't appreciate what she have
LMAO off @2:56 from High Street to the deep east,pick a corner and have a seat.lol.
You better run run run run run
'Cuz there's gonna be some hell to pay
You better run run run run run
And that's the only thing I'm gonna say, hey!
I wish I'd known right from the start
That I was dancing with the dark
You better run run run run RUN!
Daniel run run Daniel run run
Run Daniel Daniel run RUN!
I'mma start a damn "Run Boobie Run!" twitter campaign! Fuck this shit!
Keyshia, >>> Romans 8:1-17 King James Version (KJV) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace Because the carnal mind is enmity against Go for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.The carnal mind is not a sound mind.
@4:54 sounds pretty accurate
to be honest there are several comments that seem to be fairly accurate about her. i feel that this marriage was doomed from the beginning mainly because she is a physically & emotionally damaged individual.
@KC, by bitch!!!
A girl a woman a hoe a bitch. They all chase me. I don't give a damn. - 4:13 PM
if you don't give a damn, too bad for you.
Lord have mercy smh Keyisha you better treat your husband right before someone else does.
oh Please. Bobbie pussy whipped ass ain't going no where. He got issues just like Keyshia crazy ass. She treat him just like a damn dog and he obeys just to please her ass.
Keyshia you have been so mean lately, no one feels sorry for you boo! Go on him like you did Michelle.
First of all I loves me some Keyshia Cole but she really does need to close her twitter account and not because she's being a bitter bitch but because it should only be used by those with at least average intelligence.
If she really thinks ole boy is cheating; you don't give him the heads up on twitter. You call the private detective and have him followed and you get solid evidence on film and audio. That way when you finally end up in divorce court you will have all your ammunition to get in that nucca's cheating ass pockets.
Does ole girl have a stank attitude? You betcha!
Is Daniel a cheating dawg? Can you say "NBA"?
Is this marriage gonna last? Does Tiger Woods date Black Women?.......HELLS F**** NO!!!
Keyshia, Woman to woman, enough of no love Just Let it go and move on to the next man and find your Heaven.
replace...a hoodrat will catch a case!
Ha Ha I called last night. She wouldn't be on up on the net if her man was giving her the cock.
You didn't say.....
You didn't say.....
I have no sympathy for him. He knew he married a demon and he didn't care.
Damn, he's hot
Hold onto him Keisha, marriage aint easy, having a man aint easy, dont let the other women win, outsmart them, and last but not least, he married you foe a reason, had a kid with you for a reason, so he obviously loves you, dont let your ghetto, bad attitude push him into the arms of a groupie slut.
I know she is not wearing Mac St.Germain lipstick my fav?!!! She has cheapened it...some people really cheapen quality things...trash!
the reason he married her was cause she is famous....he is ugly..he looks like "black trash"
The fact of the matter is this.....
It don't matter who she replace Daniel with, cause she still won't be happy.
Daniel need a woman like Tiny, and keisha can go over there with T.I.'s controlling ass; she will get all the fighting and arguing she need dealing with T.I.
You edomites are so dumb. I will take my black trash any-day, all-day over your "caucus mountain" cave monkey " aint shit" useless asses.
Like Ann said: half of your entire race is going to be destroyed forever, while the other half will begin SLAVERY when Christ comes back!!!!
I can't wait!
Le Sigh...when will people understand that when you post your SUPPOSED "IDAF-ness/You people are wack/not worthy of my attention!!" it registers as the exact opposite??!!...esp. with celebs who automatically have a bunch of folks looking at them.
Just do your thing and move on, otherwise, you're giving the other person/people shine, letting them know your vulnerabilities and how much they're getting inder your skin.
Keyshia- don't you know that a side-piece's main purpose in life is to cream her pants over the thought that "wifey" is stressed about her??? Come on now, you should be more worldly than that by now, smh.
You should know that, if you're man/woman is betraying you you with someone else, other person have them and let THEIR position, inevitably, be open to the next one.
werd. you ho's & sneaky ho ass men smh. but Key, really, all jokes aside, did you have the him sign a prenup?
Had mad love and respect for keisha cole...till I watch there reality show. Keisha nasty attitide show how immature, unappreciated and disrespectful to her family and her fans. now she killing her career with this BS...my mother and father are drug abuser too, but im responsible for my own action. It call im a grown woman with nothing but love and respect. Keisha quit all this BS before u lose ur #1 fan.
Michelle Williams Destiny's Child, the cold is Frankie child the map. when I heard that I cracked up
Michelle Williams is Destiny's Child, Keysha Cole is Frankie's child. do the math. when I heard that I cracked up, too funny
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Keyshia is the type of women not used to being and having a nice man. She is used to fighting snd arguing and crappy men . She needs to be with someone that treats her like garbage. She doesn't appreciate what she have
I disagree. She doesn't need to be with someone that treats her like garbage. She needs to be with someone that can help her realize her worth -- like a therapist. She may feel she doesn't deserve a nice man. So she's doing what she can to drive him away (unconsciously?). Sadly, there are too many Keyshias in our nation. But this Keyshia, is lucky in one respect -- she has ample resources to get help.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Comics 977 and 978: Humor Needed
978. This one, though, is stupid. I've been making this joke for, oh, several years now--it's not difficult to use Wikipedia to create reality. It's not surprising that this happens, because, despite the fact that your garden variety internet moron will declare that you are really dumb if you link to a Wikipedia article to prove or assist a point, Wikipedia is broadly useful, though not, perhaps, good to rely on.
This is not a novel concept, and he doesn't really do anything interesting with it. "It turns out that Wikipedia cites authors whose source is Wikipedia sometimes!" Yes, and? Did you just now discover this potential?
The alt text is even worse. While I don't doubt that his claim is plausible, his refusal to identify which book and which author just makes it sound like he's making it up. To put it into perspective, it's sort of like if he said "yeah, I totally had this hot celebrity chick over and she let me drink her milk, it was totally hot. She's really famous and you all know her, but I'm not going to tell you which one it is because I value her privacy." Sure, it's technically possible that someone saying this is telling the truth, but it's far more likely they're just telling a lie that you can't go and verify.
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- Jim PantsNovember 17, 2011 at 12:05 AM
- Jim DanceNovember 17, 2011 at 12:12 AM
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- Slim PantsNovember 17, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Rob WISHES he could fit inside me.ReplyDelete
(Because he is fat.)
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 12:34 AM
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 12:34 AM
Also has anyone else noticed a striking resemblance to our dear friend Jimmy and this man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_GeinReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 1:10 AM
Someone who really gave a shit about science discourse would name and shame such an inaccurate book... but we are talking about Randall here.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 4:00 AM
"...but it's far more likely they're just telling a lie that you can't go and verify."ReplyDelete
What if the put that they'd had a hot chick on Wikipedia? It would fact then surely.
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 5:03 AM
Do a Mythbusters sucks blog.ReplyDelete
Seriously. Do it.
He's pandering to the sort of nerds who wear Vibram Five-fingers because they think of it as hacking for their feetReplyDelete
I loled, and then I googled them to make sure we were talking about the same thing. We were, but they were even more hideous than my memory suggested. =[
haha who would wear thoseReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 7:13 AM
Mythbusters sucks. I've only seen a few episodes. In one of them, they were busting the "myths" in Kill Bill, like "can you actually stand on a sword and kick somebody in the face?", or "can you actually punch your way out of a coffin?". Um, no. It's a fucking fictional movie. Nobody believes that stuff can happen. What's next, mythbusting Lord of the Rings? "Can a ring actually make you invisible"?ReplyDelete
Plus at least 1/3 of the episode is endlessly recapped filler. At the beginning of the show they go over what myths they'll be busting. Before a commercial break they take a couple minutes to give you teasers about the results of their mythbusting. After the commercial break they remind you that some results will be shown before the next commercial break, then they take a couple minutes to recap what they were doing before the commercial break. At this point the take a couple minutes to present some fresh content, then whoops, another commercial break is coming up, time for more teasers.
- Charles Augustus FortescueNovember 17, 2011 at 8:04 AM
The scroll lock idea was a good example of the kind of thing that this might happen to, though.ReplyDelete
God bless the XKCD fans who are no doubt vandalising the scroll lock page at this moment.
The map one shows a lot of work for Randall, and is for his fans, really. It's mildly amusing, which is all I think xkcd really aspires to. It highlights what I really think about xkcd: not that it "sucks" but that it's "not for me, if it ever was."ReplyDelete
Whichever of Carl or Rob said it is basically Randall's picto-blog was precisely right, and that has not changed.
The last one that really, truly sucked for me was the banana equivalent dose one. That was the height of pretentiousness if you actually know anything about bananas and their radioactivity. Which RM doesn't - he was passing something along he just didn't "get."
If the latest one is consciously self-referential it's okay, I guess. If not, it's actually funny in the laughing at you not with you sense.
Since Randy has Megan on his mind 24/7 I can name names with a non-she (well, partly) that did exactly what RM's talking about in several papers as well as a report to Congress. Namely, George Mason U's statistics professor Edward Wegman:ReplyDelete
The partly-she part is that the main Wegman student that got pulled into this is Yasmin Said, though Walid Sharabati and Hadi Rezazad (2 other Wegman students) were involved peripherally.
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Mythbusters fell into basically the same trap that XKCD did: they're both pretty much by their very natures things that can't help but appeal to nerds, and long outlasted the point where they were relevant or interesting. In Randall's case it's because he's just not that funny, or at least not capable of being funny on a regular basis. With Mythbusters it's because there's a finite number of urban legends they could test on their show before resorting to "bust a 'myth' from a movie that only an especially impressionable 12-year-old might seriously think was plausible".ReplyDelete
- scottmctonyNovember 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM
I still find mythbusters amusing in a "run in the background while working on 3d art or programming" kind of way.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 6:09 PM
Sorry about the lack of good posting here recently. I've been busy with NaNoWriMo this month so haven't been able to visit and offer my own witty insights.ReplyDelete
I just realised I had better pop by and explain my absence. I'll be back soon, though! Keep watching out for the onset of December.
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2011 at 7:16 PM
Would also like to point out that the latest South Park episode was entirely devoted to this phenomenon. Albeit with the History channel citing itself as a source. I get the feeling Randy saw the episode replaced history channel with Wikipedia and thought 'Gold'ReplyDelete
This latest one is another one of those lame pandering ones. Yes, Randy, we've all run into programming issues and googled them and found someone else with the same problem from years ago and no solutions. And yes, it sucks. If someone from work was complaining about that tendency, I would nod in agreement. But I don't go to a webcomic to have someone say something I agree with. I go there, in theory, to find humor.ReplyDelete
Next xkcd will be a guy holding his arm and a caption: I hate when I hit my funny bone.
cptnoremac, hitting your funny bone DOES suck. Stop making light, and start making comics.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 12:06 AM
guys i'm sleepy goodnight.ReplyDelete
Wow, first wikipedia citations, and now finding unsolved problems on the Internet. Two incredibly tired jokes in a row. Did Randy finally run out of ideas and now he's just going through reddit's top submissions?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 5:04 AM
For better or for worse, I've been following xkcd from strip #244... 4 years...ReplyDelete
My god, how fast has my life passed.
I can't let this go on can I? I have to quit at 1000... But that's 4 years down the drain!
It's a sunk cost, Anon504. You have to let it go, because there's nothing you can do about it. Only the future is important.ReplyDelete
Captcha: alebs. The second biggest cities in Syria. All of them.
- That's what sheNovember 18, 2011 at 7:09 AM
Look at you, Raven, pulling out the econ 101 terms. You go, girl.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 8:21 AM
Ravenzomg!, you seem like the kind of plain girl with slightly low self-esteem but an obvious desire to express herself and make an impression who would be really pleasing in bed. Do you have any more pictures of yourself which would allow me to decide whether this fantasy is worth considering?ReplyDelete
if you want video, pm meReplyDelete
Raven is actually Ann in a wig.ReplyDelete
Re 979: More frustrating is when they reply and say "nevermind, fixed it"ReplyDelete
Other thought on 979: And whats the deal with airplane food?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 11:52 AM
the latest comic is actually kind of good. the second panel is visually funny even though the dialogue is trite, and nothing feels excessive.ReplyDelete
sort of nice job, randall.
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 12:05 PM
@Ian I know, right! Billions of people starve to death on the ground even as you eat your fill while flying right the fuck over their sorry asses.ReplyDelete
So guys, what's your favourite map projection?ReplyDelete
Good work on the milk joke!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 12:36 PM
The problem with all those map projections is they operate on the false assumption that the Earth is not flat.ReplyDelete
Ann is actually Kitten in a wig.ReplyDelete
- shut the fuck upNovember 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM
"I know someone was saying they wanted me to rage about this one but I really can't say anything I haven't said countless times before" then don't, just stop.ReplyDelete
"then don't, just stop. "ReplyDelete
why on earth would i do that when i can continue to annoy people by rehashing the same old shit every day
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM
@Jon Levi: I favour the identity projection.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2011 at 7:06 PM
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 12:46 AM
OP = fagReplyDelete
Rob = OP
Rob = fag
@Anon 12:36ReplyDelete
Idiot, don't you realise the world is TRIANGULAR?
Kitten is actually Raven in a furry suit.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 3:33 AM
Jon Levi is actually a serial killer in a woman's skin.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 6:07 AM
979 is probably a rant. Definitely true though.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 8:20 AM
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM
All the anons are actually YOU in a serial killer's skin.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 1:50 PM
ok, so imagine if Breaking Dawn was actually called "Breaking Wind." I've got lots of funny ideas like this. Do you think I should apply for a job with Mad Magazine?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 2:22 PM
Don't waste your talent there. Start up a webcomic today, my friend.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 6:03 PM
Those Vibram Five-Fingers look pretty interesting and I'd actually like to try them out. I just wonder why they don't offer a design which conceals the toe design under a discrete film of leather. Do they really not conceive of a market for people who wouldn't associate prestige with looking like a toy monkey?ReplyDelete
it's hacking for your feet, 6:03ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 19, 2011 at 8:06 PM
I hacked my feet once. Thought it would be a good idea to have several nips of vodka to keep warm while chopping wood for the fireplace. I wouldn't recommend it.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 7:01 AM
Guys I just got high for the first time in my life, and I have to sayReplyDelete
it was actually pretty cool. I don't know why more people don't do this, and I don't understand why any would criticize this stuff.
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM
Guys I just got raped for the first time in my life, and I have to sayReplyDelete
it was actually pretty cool. I don't know why more people don't do this, and I don't understand why any would criticize this stuff.
There's actually a trope for that. It's a shame that Troper Tales is gone, as you would have been able to tell your story there.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Jon Levi I hope you get raped to death.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 1:31 PM
Why is troper tales gone? The more unsavoury tropes were ... interesting to say the leastReplyDelete
jon levi links to awful sites and then confesses his desire to get raped and dieReplyDelete
Believe it or not, to many tropers were getting embarrassed by it.ReplyDelete
To quote one of the tropers on that thread:
"It discourages new members. You've all seen the creepy stuff in the troper tales archives, and it tends to make outsiders think we're all like that. Thus, a lot of potential members get scared away."
Oh well, it seems I'll never get to tell the world about my Badass Longcoat.
For those of us who still want to see it, all the pages have been copied to an off-site wiki that noone visits.
Let's see how long it takes for Blogger's paranoid spam detector to delete my post again.ReplyDelete
Take that back, Jon. I do NOT visit Troper Tales wiki.ReplyDelete
jon, i admitReplyDelete
i deleted that one because i hate you
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Seriously Rob you need to post the comics here so I don't have go to the stupid xkcd site to read them. How hard is it to post the images?ReplyDelete
Unrelated: Badass Longcoats are totally sexy.
it requires about 30 seconds of effort per image, and i'm not willing to spend more than 40 seconds on image linking per postReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 4:58 PM
What happened to BrotherSisterIncest/Archive? RapeIsLove/Archive? What is this neutered bullshit? Please explain.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM
There was a Troper Tales page for Brother-Sister Incest back in 2009, but it was replaced with a piece of text saying "We're not going to talk about this here. Even Evil Has Standards."ReplyDelete
You can still view it here!
Hey, I found some of the others:
Rape Is Love
Parental Incest
A Date With Rosie Palms (masturbation)
Apologies. That second link should have been this:ReplyDelete
You can still view it here!


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Some people like to design their bedrooms particularly to suit the period. Winter colors are extremely common within the winter, fall colors make beautiful bedroom décor, springtime colors can certainly jazz up your bedroom, and summer colors can also put in a stunning hint for your bedroom décor. If you fail to afford to or just do not want to have two to four bedroom units of different colors to suit the periods, you can still have wonderful bedroom design. Basic colors are my first suggestion. Using colors such as greens, browns, beiges, off-whites and whites could all be utilized as being a kind of universal bedroom design.
However, if you do not want to possess two to four-bedroom units in your home to improve the colors within your room as the seasons change outside, you might well would rather find the colors you enjoy best. That is another best thing. If you like burgundy, and you already have a wooden bedroom collection that's stained a burgundy color, you may only choose that style or concept for the remainder of your room design. It is crucial to keep in mind that your bedroom décor will not reflect your own personal taste unless you do not allow anything enter the method of your individual style once you decorate. Your bedroom décor will not reveal your decorative ideas unless it's something you enjoy, no matter whether it is raining outside or swimming pool weather.
Among the most significant room ideas that you ought to consider before you need to do anything is the design. The concept is dependent upon various factors. Or if you are decorating your child's bedroom, think about your child's interests. Does your son like sports? Then enhance his room using a sports theme. Does your daughter love working? Then make her feel like a Hollywood actor by decorating her room with glitzy and glamorous decorations and furniture.
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[Comic title: Hofstadter; alt text: "This is the reference implementation of the self-referential joke."]
I am obviously quaking in my boots at the imminent return and vengeance of Carl, who will return and find my works lacking and smite me and blah blah blah whatever fuck you.
Anyway, comic 917! This one quite obviously started with Randy coming up with the acrostonym* in question. It don't think it reads the way it's intended to, but I'm not here to take issue with this.
I'm here to take issue with the GOOMH-bait that is so obvious that even one of the fanboys in the previous comment thread noted it:
"Well _I've_ never heard of that guy, because I'm not XKChttp://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifD's target audience, therefore Randall is just being obscure again, GOOMH-baiting the nerds and trying to make them feel important about themselves for knowing who that is. Or he has a crush on one more obscure scientist, I can't decide. Maybe both. Also, porn star daughter Megan nipples har har!"
This was intended to invalidate the criticism by preemptively making it, of course, but the fact of the matter is, this is yet another comic where the entire humor relies on nerds recognizing the topic in question and then saying "lololol I know who that is too." It's exceptionally sad that the pandering is so bad that one of Randy's loyal fanboys is preemptively trying to head off criticism of it. (The irony here, of course, is that Douglas Hofstadter isn't really Randy's type of person--but props for finding someone who has an interest in self-reference, though! My guess is he went to the Wiki page on "self-reference" and noticed a name in the Examples section, and said "I guess he'll do.")
What really stands out here to me, though, is that this marks at least the third time he's put words in the mouth of a famous person. You have Zombie Feynman, Zombie Marie Curie, and now Douglas Hofstadter. (Let me know if I've forgotten any.) While this one lacks the preachiness of the first two, it does share the commonality that Randy is trying to improve his words by making it sound like they are not his.
It's not as bad as it's been before, but this isn't a coincidence. I think this is a sign that Randy is trying to write character humor. I've been noticing it lately: you have a strip featuring Black Hat guy where he doesn't do anything Black Hat Guy-esque--the only way we can tell he might be sarcastic is because he's Black Hat Guy. And then you have a strip with Beret Guy where he is pretty much entirely a passive character, and maybe if anyone could figure out what his personality is supposed to be it would be funnier?
Of course, this being XKCD, Randy actually pulling off character humor is about as likely as an Internet Atheist acknowledging that he's pretty much directly comparable in every way to your garden variety fundie, but these strips all give me this feeling, like he wishes that he were capable of writing in a rich, sustaining universe, where characters are dynamic and interesting and he isn't just writing author inserts and strawmen shouting into the void.


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Roy F. Linck, 63, of Augusta, passed away Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012
Roy F. Linck, 63, of Augusta, passed away Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012.
Service 11 a.m. Saturday, Nov. 24, 2012, at Headley Funeral Chapel, Augusta. Burial will follow at Elmwood Cemetery , Augusta.
Roy was born in Wichita, on March 25, 1949, to the late LaVone Elaine (Grunwald) and J. Frank Linck. He was also preceded in death by his brother James Linck. Roy enjoyed fishing, hunting, farming, boating, and was a big fan of astrology and science-fiction. He was also an avid book reader and strong supporter of Kansas college sports. He worked as a jig builder at Boeing and Spirit for over 35 years. On May 21, 1983 at All Faiths Wedding Chapel in Wichita he married Connie (Hendricks) Linck, who survives him.
He is also survived by: son, Kyle Linck and daughter, Katie Linck of Augusta; brother, Steve Linck of Wichita; sister, Connie Basquez of Augusta; and numerous extended family members.
In lieu of flowers memorial donations may go to Augusta Community Caring Center.


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Template:Translation, reputed as the Template:Translation,[1] is a shinobi from Kirigakure's Hōzuki clan. He was held in one of Orochimaru's labs where he was experimented on for some time. After being freed by Sasuke Uchiha, he became the first member to join his group Taka, which was initially called "Hebi" at the time of its creation.
Background Edit
Suigetsu was born in Kirigakure and was reputed alongside his brother, Mangetsu, to be the incarnation of the demon Zabuza Momochi.[1] He and Mangetsu aspired to inherit the title of Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. This acted as their motivation to finish cruel missions day by day. While Mangetsu eventually became one of the seven, Suigetsu's motivation was shattered with the premature death of his brother, and Suigetsu changed his ambition to "collecting all of the swords", in order to retrieve all seven original blades that has been passed down by the swordsmen, so that he could rebuild the group and become its leader.[2]
With the humiliation of being captured and experimented on by Orochimaru and Kabuto Yakushi, his ambition was put on hold. Through these experiments, Kabuto at least, was able to replicate Suigetsu's unique secret ability to liquefy himself at will.[3] At some point in the past, he had to fight with Jūgo.[4]
Personality Edit
Suigetsu appears to be indifferent, caring only for a few things around him. He spends a considerable amount of time mocking and/or being beaten up by Karin. Despite showing initial dislike towards his team-mates, Suigetsu has grown fond of them, and was willing to risk his own life to protect them against the Eight-Tails.
Kisame Hoshigaki claims that Suigetsu is a prodigy in the art of murder, as he has a habit of chopping off his victim's limbs before beheading them.[1] Suigetsu, despite addressing him with the honourific term "senpai", wants to defeat him and take his sword, noting to Sasuke that he will one day serve him as "shark fin soup" (a reference to Kisame's shark-like appearance) after Sasuke suggested that he was not yet strong enough to defeat Kisame, showing it to be a sign of sarcasm rather than respect for Kisame.
As a prodigy at the art of murder, Suigetsu has a certain love for killing, but he refrains from doing so at Sasuke's request. However, there are several occasions where he has killed people when he believed Sasuke wouldn't notice. Suigetsu has been shown to have thoughts such as "just this once" and "he'll forgive me". However, he was noticeably upset that Sasuke killed several samurai during the attack on the Kage Summit, pointing out how many times Sasuke had told him not to kill anyone. He was described to have a belligerent personality,[5] witnessed through his hostile and aggressive attitude most times.
Suigetsu has a passion for collecting exotic swords: he made it his goal to collect all the swords from the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. He took Zabuza Momochi's Kubikiribōchō and joined Hebi only to take Kisame Hoshigaki's Samehada. He even went into great detail to explain about the seven swords to Jūgo, with a passionate tone to his storytelling. However, his passion doesn't seem to be entirely limited to the seven blades, as he also expressed interest in Darui's sword. His ultimate goal however, is to collect the seven blades, so he can reform the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist and become their leader. Along with this passion for collecting swords, Suigetsu is very mischievous and as such, takes great joy in foiling Karin's plans to be alone with Sasuke and has stated that it is his second favourite thing to do.[6] By his own admission, Suigetsu has an impulse to cut things up, be it a people or relationships, as he does with Sasuke and Karin.[7]
Suigetsu apparently likes animals somewhat seen from his attempt to play with the talking ninja cats from the abandoned Uchiha warehouse at one point. He also lectured Sasuke on treating animals better after Sasuke used Manda to shield himself from Deidara's suicide technique, which resulted in Manda's death. Suigetsu also has what seems to be a chronic fear of Orochimaru, which is to be expected due to the latter imprisoning and experimenting on him. This fear was witnessed when Sasuke declared that he would revive Orochimaru and Suigetsu's ensuing attempt to dissuade him from doing so. When Orochimaru was revived, Suigetsu even refused to stay on the same side of the cave with him, retreating to opposite ends depending on where Orochimaru went.[8]
Appearance Edit
Suigetsu is a lean-built young man of average height, straight white hair with a light-blue tint to it, purple eyes and like all members of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist pointed teeth — one of which sticks out even with his mouth closed. He wears a purple, sleeveless shirt with grey pants, sandals and a belt around his waist with water bottles attached to it. He also wears another belt strapped to his chest which he uses to carry the Kubikiribōchō. Due to his special body, Suigetsu is able to alter his body size at will, usually to aid in his techniques and when rendered unconscious, he is reduced to a jelly-like state. Whenever he is seen recovering from these unconscious states he is placed in a large tank of water and resembles a fish-like being.[9]
Abilities Edit
Suigetsu is a capable fighter, or at least very confident in his abilities, since he has threatened Sasuke on more than one occasion and was capable of stopping Jūgo's rampage with little difficulty. Kisame has noted him to be a child prodigy in the art of murder, and that he is practically the reincarnation of Zabuza.[1] In an anime-only fight, Suigetsu was also shown fighting hundreds of foes unarmed, showing that he is also capable in taijutsu.[10]
Hōzuki Clan Techniques and Nature Transformation Edit
As a member of the Hōzuki clan, Suigetsu is well versed in the clan's secret techniques. Suigetsu is able to transform his body into a liquid form, and to return to his solid bodily form at will. This ability also allows him to change his body shape, giving him the ability to increase the size of his limbs, thus proportionally increasing his strength if necessary. It also makes striking him somewhat difficult; since he is made of liquid, any regular strike will go right through his watery form. When struck, part of the water he turns into can also split from his body, and be used to attack others, for example, making a water blob around one's head to drown them. As his body is water, he is also capable of merging with already existing water to increase his attack range, as seen when he fought against Killer B, and to use Water Release techniques. When he passes out he enters a jelly-like state, as seen in the battle against Killer B.
Suigetsu is seen carrying water bottles with him, as he frequently needs to consume water in order to stay hydrated. Due to his water-like body, he exhibits weakness against lightning-based techniques, as exhibited in his defence of Sasuke against Killer B's chakra-charged strike against Sasuke.
Kenjutsu Edit
From his training days with the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist, Suigetsu is quite adept at wielding Zabuza Momochi's Kubikiribōchō. However, he lacks the high degree of physical strength Zabuza had, as carrying the sword around for long distances seems to tire him out, and makes it necessary for him to drink more water. However, he partially makes up for this with his Hydrification Technique, which allows him to expand the muscles in his arms to help him wield such a heavy weapon with more ease. In addition to his own abilities, Suigetsu also has a good perception for swordsmanship skills, as he saw Killer B was a skilled swordsman almost instantly after the fight began. Suigetsu also seems very fast witnessed when he got away from A's assault against Jūgo and almost got C from behind unexpectedly until Darui stopped Suigetsu from landing his assault and he was fast enough to intercept Killer B's attack on Sasuke. He is also skilled as he was able to clash toe-to-toe with an powerful opponent like Darui even with the Kubikiribōchō broken in half.
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Itachi Pursuit Arc Edit
Immediately after Sasuke defeated Orochimaru, he went into one of Orochimaru's many experimentation labs and freed Suigetsu, who was sealed inside a holding tube. After threatening Sasuke, holding his hand in a style reminiscent of the one used to perform his clan's Water Gun Technique, he pointed out that he owed nothing to Sasuke for dealing with Orochimaru as there were many who wanted to do it and it was just a case where Sasuke was able to, because he was always in close proximity to Orochimaru. Suigetsu nevertheless agreed to join him in the hopes of meeting Kisame Hoshigaki and taking Samehada for himself. Once they left, Suigetsu had Sasuke take him to the Land of Waves to retrieve Zabuza's Kubikiribōchō from his grave. In the anime, the story of Suigetsu obtaining Zabuza's sword was expanded and lengthened out slightly for this episode in order to facilitate an earlier display of his abilities. The sword in question was taken from Zabuza's grave by a politician and crime boss named Tenzen Daikoku, who wanted to take the sword as a trophy, and for "revenge" after losing many men during Zabuza's attempted coup years before.
They then went to the base where Karin resided, where Suigetsu was instructed to free all the prisoners. Before releasing them, however, Suigetsu told them to spread the word that Sasuke killed Orochimaru, and would bring peace to the world. As Sasuke hadn't ordered him to say these things, his motives appear to be unclear.
Once Karin was persuaded to join, they headed to meet with Jūgo. They had to fight their way through an army of people branded with the Cursed Seals to reach him, and, under Sasuke's orders, were told not to kill any of them whilst subduing them. When they found Jūgo, who promptly attacked them, Suigetsu attempted to kill him. However, Sasuke intervened, and threatened to kill both of them if they didn't stop fighting. Jūgo eventually calmed down, and, with some persuasion on Sasuke's part, was recruited. Afterwards, Sasuke told them their mission and their new team's name; they would be known as "Hebi", and their mission was to find Itachi Uchiha.
Soon afterwards the team split up, searching for information about Itachi's whereabouts. This led Suigetsu to a bank where Akatsuki member Kakuzu's banker Ginji was. Recognising him as such, Suigetsu threatened him to talk.[11] Seeing Deidara's large suicide bomb's explosion, Suigetsu was drawn to the site of Sasuke's battle with Deidara, where he had used a special seal to summon Manda and had used the snake to escape the explosion. It had, however, been a little too late, and Manda died, making Suigetsu tell Sasuke that he should treat animals a little better.
After they had rested and continued on their way, Sasuke found Itachi in an Akatsuki hideout. The clone of Itachi then guided Sasuke to an Uchiha hideout. On their way there, the group encountered Kisame Hoshigaki, who told them Sasuke must go alone. Leaving Hebi behind, Suigetsu challenged Kisame to a battle, who gladly accepted, while Sasuke finally made Itachi's death a reality. It was later revealed that Zetsu interfered in the fight, leaving both Suigetsu and Kisame alive.
Invasion of Pain Arc Edit
Hebi, now renamed "Taka", began working with Akatsuki. They went to Kumogakure and confronted Killer B, the jinchūriki of the Eight-Tails. Suigetsu attacked him first, but was quickly disarmed. Both Jūgo and Sasuke's individual attempts at subduing Killer B failed as well, and Sasuke would have suffered fatal injuries had Suigetsu not intervened to spare him a finishing blow from the jinchūriki. However, Killer B's electric attack overwhelmed Suigetsu, cleaving a substantial tear in his sword, and it would have severed in half had Sasuke not nullified the attack in time.
After Karin healed Sasuke, Suigetsu, together with Jūgo and Sasuke, engaged Killer B once more to no avail. At one point, Suigetsu succeeded in immobilising Killer B providing an opportunity for Sasuke to use a lightning attack. Unfortunately, to keep Killer B held, Suigetsu voluntarily received Sasuke's lightning technique as well, sustaining considerable damage.
After severely wounding Sasuke, Killer B invokes his tailed beast form in order to deal with the rest of the group. Suigetsu, thrown into the water earlier, emerged, using the body of water, to save his team-mates from what would been a devastating blow. Keeping the Eight-Tails at bay momentarily, Suigetsu valiantly told his weakened team members to escape, though somewhat amused that he was risking his life for them. When Killer B tried to use a Tailed Beast Ball on the team, Suigetsu used himself as a shield, keeping his team-mates safe.
Although Suigetsu was left unconscious, he managed to gain the time Jūgo needed to revive Sasuke. By unleashing Amaterasu on the Eight-Tails, Sasuke was able to turn the tide, at last successfully capturing the Eight-Tails jinchūriki. After the battle was over, Jūgo carried Suigetsu away.[12] While Taka recuperated, Suigetsu recovered in a tank of water. He yelled at Karin for leaving his sword behind, but was later seen to have recovered it.
Five Kage Summit Arc Edit
Once healed, Taka set out for Konoha. Along the way they were intercepted by Tobi, who informed them of Konoha's destruction and their failure to capture the Eight-Tails. He convinced Sasuke to go to the Kage summit to kill Danzō, so Zetsu led them to the Land of Iron. Upon their arrival Suigetsu scouted the area, in order to find a way to the summit, but he found that there were too many samurai patrolling the area. Jūgo found them an alternate route, where they were attacked by the samurai, having been exposed by Zetsu. As Sasuke killed their attackers, Suigetsu pointed out that he (Sasuke) was doing the very thing he forbid him to do. The Fourth Raikage soon arrived to fight Sasuke and Suigetsu tried to help, but the Raikage breaks his Kubikiribōchō in half. He used what remained of his blade to fight Darui, and was able to hold his own, until Darui infused his own blade with electricity, allowing him to overpower Suigetsu and pin him to a wall. When Sasuke destroyed the room they were in, Suigetsu was freed. He retrieved his sword and regrouped with Jūgo. They contemplated following Sasuke and the Raikage, but decided that it would be too dangerous. Instead, they dressed up as samurai to gather information while avoiding drawing attention to themselves, at Suigetsu's suggestion. They were quickly detected, and Jūgo stated that it wasn't the best plan.
Shinobi World War Arc Edit
As the war was being waged, Suigetsu and Jūgo escape their cell in the Land of Iron, having taken care of the guards, and stating that security had got looser. Suigetsu said he wanted to go looking for his Kubikiribōchō, to which Jūgo agrees to help. He then states that Jūgo is nicer than Karin, and then they decide to look for her as well. During their search for the sword, Jūgo asks why Suigetsu, being a person who gets bored easily, is so particularly obsessed with those swords. Suigetsu then reveals his dream of reforming the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist and becoming their leader.[2]
Suigetsu and Jūgo escape from the samurai compound. They walk through a forest and discuss their plans. Suigetsu tells Jūgo that even if they reunited with Sasuke and Karin, it wouldn't be a grand reunion of sorts as Karin wanted Sasuke to herself in order to seduce him. As they continue onwards, Suigetsu tells Jūgo that they'd continue to get in Karin's way which was his second favourite thing to do after collecting swords. They proceed to head towards one of Orochimaru's hideouts. On the way there, they learn about the war. After arriving, Jūgo and Suigetsu have a brief conversation before Jūgo loses control and attacks Suigetsu, who is unharmed. Breaking into a wall, Orochimaru's secret room is discovered and within it, Suigetsu finds a scroll — the contents of which shock him somewhat. He takes the scroll stating that it could be beneficial to Sasuke and to possibly gain control of the war.
Later, when Sasuke was being tormented by thoughts concerning what he was, Jūgo and Suigetsu broke through the ceiling and declared that they had finally found him. Suigetsu examined Kabuto's body and expressed his disgust at Kabuto's navel-snake while Jūgo found Anko unconscious on the cave's floor. When Sasuke asks them their purpose of coming there, Suigetsu handed him the scroll — the one with which he exclaimed that their group Taka could use that to rule the shinobi world with — and making him cognisant of reincarnated Madara's presence even though Itachi forced Kabuto to release Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation, which leaves Sasuke somewhat surprised.
After Sasuke declared that he would revive Orochimaru, Suigetsu vehemently opposed this and tried dissuading Sasuke from his actions to no avail. When Orochimaru emerged from Anko's Cursed Seal of Heaven, Suigetsu retreated behind Kabuto's immobile body and sheepishly greeted his former captor. Shocked when he heard that Orochimaru was not interested in the war that was going on, Suigetsu then quickly relocated to the other side of the cave when Orochimaru moved towards Kabuto. Declaring that Orochimaru was going to kill Kabuto, he is corrected by Jūgo who noted that Orochimaru was only draining his own chakra from within Kabuto. He later listened on, confused as Orochimaru told Sasuke that they were going somewhere he knew well.
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Trivia Edit
- Template:Translation is a poetic term for the moon reflecting on the surface of the water. As an extension of this, the word can also refer to something illusory, without true substance; perhaps referring to Suigetsu's ability to turn his body into water.
- The full phrase of which Suigetsu's name comes is Template:Translation, meaning the moon reflected in water and a flower in a mirror are things that can be seen but not held; this is a Chinese proverb for seeing and desiring something that is a dream that cannot be easily grasped in hand, teaching people about temptations.
- Template:Translation is the Japanese word for the Chinese Lantern, a plant bearing fruit which resemble Chinese paper lanterns; like all members of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen, his surname is derived from a type of produce.
- According to the databook(s):
- Suigetsu wishes to fight Kisame and the other Seven Ninja Swordsmen members.
- Suigetsu's favourite foods are jello or yogurt (preferably anything drinkable), while his least favourite is dried cuttlefish.
- Suigetsu's favourite phrase is Template:Translation.
- Suigetsu's hobby is looking after his beloved sword.
- Suigetsu has completed 92 official missions in total: 2 D-rank, 33 C-rank, 40 B-rank, 13 A-rank, 4 S-rank.
- In the omake of Naruto: Shippūden episode 161, he asked Karin the reason why she is in the male's room. He then looks for his toothbrush which was mistakenly taken by Karin thinking its Sasuke's.
- Suigetsu is the only member of Taka whose eyes and hair are not of the same colour. However, the colour of Suigetsu's eyes is similar to the top that he usually wears.
- While not officially a member of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist, he can be used in the Ninja Storm games alongside actual members to form the Mist Ninja Swordsman team.
Quotes Edit
- (To Sasuke) "You really do talk like you're in charge… Let's make our relationship extremely clear, shall we? Just because you defeated Orochimaru, doesn't put you in charge here… Everyone was after him, someone would have taken him out sooner or later… Orochimaru liked you, otherwise you'd be locked up, not by his side. You simply had more chances to kill him than the rest of us."[13]
- (After finding the Kubikiribōchō) "I'm amazed it's somewhere like this… Zabuza, this is mine now. It's heavy… the great beheading sword of the the demon Zabuza of Kirigakure!"[14]
- (To himself) "I can't believe I'd be protecting their hides this often!"[16]
- (To Jūgo about Sasuke and Karin) Template:Translation[7]
References Edit
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Naruto chapter 353, page 16
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Naruto chapter 523, page 4
- ↑ Naruto chapter 579, page 10
- ↑ Naruto chapter 349, page 5
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- ↑ Naruto chapter 567, page 4
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 Naruto chapter 574, page 4
- ↑ Naruto chapter 593, pages 7, 15
- ↑ Naruto chapter 417, page 7
- ↑ Naruto: Shippūden episode 115
- ↑ Naruto chapter 355, pages 11-12
- ↑ Naruto chapter 414
- ↑ Naruto chapter 347, pages 3-5
- ↑ Naruto chapter 347, pages 14-15
- ↑ Naruto chapter 349, page 3
- ↑ Naruto chapter 414, page 5


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Gatehawk wrote:Former Arsenal player Ian Wright has suggested Arsenal make a bid for rivals Spurs player Jermain Defoe, what do you think Hawkspur? Is he crazy or is it a possibility?
Ian Wright is a mentor and close friend of Defoe's. He's been beating that drum for about 5 years now. Defoe's problem is that he inclined to shoot on sight, often at the expense of passing to a player in a better position. I'm inclined to agree with Rob and Smurf and think that someone who can play between the midfield and the striker like Alan Dzagoev, Wilian or Dempsey may be a better option.
Also, at the moment Spurs have just 2 strikers, one of whom is Defoe. Unless we bring in Wilian and Leandro or Remy in the next 3 days I think it'd be futile for Arsenal to bother bidding.
Edit: it's incredibly unlikely that Wright has any contact whatsoever with any of the Arsenal decision makers so I doubt that his speculation is based on anything more than his personal thoughts.


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Prepare yourselves, ladies and gentlemen. WhatsApp has announced a number of releases are in the pipeline for its Windows Phone client, which are said to contain improvements for the overall user experience.
The popular communications app was made available for Windows Phone 8 just last month, following a period where the app was not available for consumers on the latest version of Microsoft's mobile platform.
@abdulaziz_balol you will see a lot of improvements in the next batch of releases.— WhatsApp Inc. (@WhatsApp) January 10, 2013
There have been a number of complaints from readers about the quality of the experience in WhatsApp and many are clutching at straws to see the company release an update that addresses most common concerns. Could the next build be the one for Windows Phone that solves everything? Possibly. But we've grown tired of waiting on the team to believe anything will change.
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