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Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Crusader Strike Syndrome II
I sense a pattern here. In 2.0, the top Ret talent was released. People screamed that Ret was overpowered, and Ret got nerfed. Then Blizzard had to reverse the nerf months later. In 3.0, the top Ret talent was released. People screamed that Ret was overpowered, and Ret got nerfed. Will Blizzard have to reverse this change too?
Kind of honestly, this does not reflect well on Blizzard's testing practices at all. DS has been Holy pretty much throughout Beta and Ptr, yet it needs to get *hotfixed* within 24 hours of going live? This seems like an overreaction. As well, this patch is full of bugs when it comes to paladin mechanics. Maybe Blizzard should actually fix some of the bugs affecting the class before nerfing it.
I stand by my statement that instant attacks proccing Seals was a bad idea. It widens the gap between Ret (2 instants) and Prot (1 instant) and Holy (0 instants). It causes us to have watered down instant attacks, because attached Seal damage has to be considered. It increases our extreme potential burst unnecessarily, due to Seal of Command.
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Has anyone got to play with this yet to see how it actually affects DPS? That change doesn't even make sense though. It is a spell. Spells deal damage from a specific school of magic, in our case, Holy. It would be like making a Mage Fireball deal physical damage. It doesn't make sense. Unless we are going to start being able to quad wield yellow hammers this is dumb.ReplyDelete
However, I would not be upset if this becomes a physical ability like CS if that means that we can use it while silenced. I believe CS can be used while silenced because it is a physical attack. Guess we will have to see how it pans out.
I think that the release of Warhammer has scared Blizzard into a releasing an expansion that is basically not ready.ReplyDelete
My pala is only level 65 (I got bored of the auto-attaching mechanics that is pre-Wrath Pala, sad to say), on the PTR specced to ret and went around soloing with a one-hander and shield and put out about as much dps as my fire-mage of the same level on live... I.e. Ret was blatently imba.
So I don't think that Blizzard have bad testing - I think that Wrath basically just isn't ready yet and was forced out for commercial reasons i.e. this patch appears near the end of Warhammer's first free month.
Adjunct to this, I wonder if Blizzard's 'It's ready when it's ready' philosphy can work with MMO's? A bad expansion can kill a game, true - but so can rolling out new expansions with too big a gap between them i.e. the playerbase was more or less ready for Wrath in June/July so I think that Blizzard have to try much harder to meet their 18 month goal for new xpac rollouts.
I think you may be on to something Simon......ReplyDelete
To be honest, though, and was stated numerous times, they could test until they're blue in the face but the percentage of people testing is vastly outnumbered by the total number of players.ReplyDelete
The internal testers and the beta testers are (mainly) very bright and motivated people, but they're still probably less then 1% of the total player-base. They're without a doubt going to miss some things or some combinations of effects.
As well, take note that while BGs and world PvP were still active on the beta, arenas didn't really get going until very recently. And about the same time they had a stat stacking bug that was blowing a lot of results out of proportion. These combined mean that there was very little PvP testing throughout the entire beta, and what little there was was tainted because of the stat bug.
- Anonymous4:15 AM, October 16, 2008
ret is way over powered right now. 2 global cooldowns to kill people with 400 res and top dps in PvE (Brut) with same spec. It is kinda stupid they let ret go live like it is. They even bring more utility to the raid than they used to (+2% raid damage + mana regen for 10 people).ReplyDelete
It does make you wonder how they do testing. It always surprises me that they don't seems to just put the numbers from the formulas they create into excel like everyone on elitest jerks does.
From what I heard, Ret DPS was balanced at level 80, but not really checked at level 70. That may be the reason behind the nerf, which means that it will probably be un-nerfed come Wrath.ReplyDelete
We'll be nerfed because of the impact for the two weeks this will be played at 70, and wait for 10 months at 80 to get balanced again. Its a shame, Blizzard just needs to say "Hey, this is going to be a bit wonky for a couple weeks. As people level, it really is balanced."ReplyDelete
Or, if they really have a problem, how about lowering the number of extra attacks at lower levels, add them as the player levels with additional ranks.
At 70, you get two swings. 74 gets three. 78 gets 4. 80 gets 5 swings. So much more balanced than chopping the ability at the knees.
And, yes, there are people who say "Try it, its not so bad" and I can tell them they are wrong before we even start. The reason is simple... change to physical means that Paladins will now favor armor penatration as a stat over all others. This was intended to be a change in mechanic, to remove one of the stats for us, to be less dependant on so many. Sorry, this change either forgets that important mechanic change or ignores it. Either way, this is poorly handled.
- Orgauth6:59 AM, October 16, 2008
Hotfix or no, nerfed or no - DPS is WAY up. Period. Everyone wanted to "test drive" their new spells and talents last night, so we made an impromptu Karazhan group and annihilated the entirety of the instance in just over two hours (no CC used on Moroes - just burned them all down, one repentence on Maiden, one evocation on Curator, one arcane explosion on Shade, one set of beams on Netherspite - to illustrate the ease). It would have been shorter, but we let our sense of invincibility cause a couple dumb wipes on trash, and a wipe on Shade with people stuck outside the room.ReplyDelete
I was near 1k DPS for most of the run (about a 50% increase from what I'm accustomed to seeing), finishing around 925 for the night and #2 on the meter (behind a WELL-geared fury warrior). Was still sporting Ragesteel Shoulders and Skullsplitter gauntlets (remarkably decent BoE blues if you're not hit-capped), as well as only one DPS trinket (Hourglass acquired from BM just prior to Karazhan run).
I died a little too often (WTB shorter CD on Hand of Salvation), but everyone was thoroughly impressed with not only the damage output, but with the healing and mana provided by Divine Storm and Judgements of the Wise, respectively. I wanted to position myself as the (and demonstrate the need to have a) indispensible ret paladin for raids - and I think I succeeded.
I shudder to think what the numbers could have been without the nerf (of which I was not even aware).
NOTE: It occurred to me mid-raid that without Precision in the Prot tree, the hit cap is 142 now, not the previous 95 for human paladins. Fortunately, I acquired the DPS ring from Prince with 17 hit, and got enough badges to purchase the DPS badge gloves (Doomgrip Gauntlets?) for another +13 net hit gain. Two Glinting Noble Topaz later (one in new gloves, one in another existing piece) I've already nearly covered the gap - Surefooted on the boots will get me to 143 tonight.
Between the night before just running around randomly killing things, and last night - there was nothing that made me go "WTF is wrong with my DPS", especially after 9 aggro-ripping-induced deaths. L2watchOmenBetter XD
DPS is most definitely way up.ReplyDelete
I'm a protection paladin, level 69.
Last night we had a team of: spriest, prot pally, balanced druid, resto shaman and then either a fire mage or an enhancement shaman or a MM hunter.
We cleared:
HEROIC Slave Pens - in 32 minutes
HEROIC Underbog - I think this was about 45 to 50 minutes
regular Steamvaults
regular Black Morass - no more than 2 groups of adds ever spawned from each portal, most of the time just 1 add
HEROIC Black Morass - I can't believe I could tank this at level 69 and that my girlfriend could heal it at 69.
I believe we wiped twice throughout the entire night, and both times was the hunter accidentally body pulling or doing stupid things like MDing to me when the healer was afk.
My dps, at level 69, with some greens and blues... on the order of 500 to 550.
I beat the shadow priest in every instance except for one when it came to overall damage.
The moonkin used to be spec'd dreamstate/NS and do roughly 400 dps... last night he was full balanced and did over 900 dps.
I'm not sure what to make of all the changes, but I wouldn't be surprised if T5-level guilds start getting ballsy and attempting Sunwell.
When did this hotfix go in?...ReplyDelete
When I played last night, I did notice things dying faster, but I wasn't getting OMGNERFMEPLEASE numbers.
If they did nerf us back to the stoneage, then it will become easy for me to shelve my paladin again in favor of my hunter...
- Anonymous7:53 AM, October 16, 2008
We raided sunwell last night. We had first 3 on farm and a couple almost kills on twins. We 1 shot first 4 (server first twins kill). Took 4-5 attempts on M'Uru and got a kill. The ret paladin in the raid was around +1000 dps from normal and said he didn't have a good rotation down yet. He did 2600 dps on brut (4:30 kill down from 5:40 a previous best). Ret was top dps on brut and felmyst and twins.ReplyDelete
Ret will be nerfed a lot. No way a utility class should be topping dps meter. Enjoy it while it lasts.
- Anonymous8:00 AM, October 16, 2008
"Ret will be nerfed a lot. No way a utility class should be topping dps meter. Enjoy it while it lasts."ReplyDelete
LOL, another "ret shouldn't be doing good dps. NERF RET!" drone, despite the fact that the devs have said that all dps specs are going to be withing 5% of each other now.
Also heads up, EVERY dps class has utility now as well, not just pallys. Molten Core was a long time ago, m'kay?
- Anonymous8:26 AM, October 16, 2008
where is my bubble i had before this so suxsReplyDelete
So yeah, if they're going to nerf us, how about giving us more survivability? Right now us paladins seem like we're in cloth rather than plate and I pop like popcorn in BGs. Talk about a glass cannon. As soon as you get in range of anything "You Have Died." comes to mind. If you do get the upper hand, then yes you have a chance to throw down amazing numbers. People just don't get it. High AP + Low Survivability = balanced. MS warriors = High AP + Better survivability. We have stuns for a reason folks, and thats to survive in 1v1 battles. an arms warrior before the patch = unstoppable by any melee class, at least i found that out who knows how many times on my rogue when i couldnt get a stun off on a warrior b/c they resisted or they stunlocked me. Blizzard listens to all the whiny little people who used to train us and own us all day long because they cant do it anymore. Thats right, paladins are a capable opponent! We lived for so long learning our class mechanics and being able to play them with high skill just to survive. Now that we get buffed and we know what the F**K we're doing, they want to take it away little by little. How about looking at how the Rets play for once and determine if they're just playing with skill or if the class is seriously that wigged out. I tried 1v1's and i still lost here and there, esp to discipline priests >_<.ReplyDelete
GC has just posted on the Beta forums the full list of the nerfs (hotfixed and planned). I've thrown it up on my blog, but here is a direct link:ReplyDelete
As I've always says, another proof that no one at Blizzard Dev really plays a raiding Paladin. We're the goto class to nerf.ReplyDelete
Zebra, I actually read your post when I was trying to find out what "nerfs" they were going to slap against our foreheads today. Sounds like a bandaid to help soothe the wounds of the whining children who are angry that they didnt roll a paladin. I've gone through every nerf and buff that blizzard has thrown at us since the beginning of WoW. It's amazing that the same story is told over and over again though. LUCKILY, we have Ghostcrawler on our side for this one. He has been standing up for the buff for Retribution paladins because they have been VERY lackluster and underpowered since the beginning. I've seen the way he's been handling the QQ from everyone so far and he's been nothing more than eloquent in his responses. He's trying to accomodate for the masses by showing these debuffs for us, but he's really striving to keep the class even with every other class. Noone has truly looked into how "OP" other classes are yet, namely BM Hunters with pet talent trees, Resto druids, Arms Warriors (In PVP), Fury Warriors (<< We were even with them with our buff in 3.0.2 before the debuff), Discipline priests (stand there and laugh at you while you try and do damage to them, they're basically warlocks now with huge healing bonuses), Enhancement shamans ( HUUUUGE DPS buff in the patch, its not even right), Elemental Shaman ability to slam people into space :P, Not to mention the other caster classes that have always dominated the dps charts by a margin of about 2-300 dps. Why don't we all QQ about everyone else? Maybe because we know we're now even matches for people in a 1v1. We lack the survivability that an MS warrior has, which is why we're given a bubble, Repentance and HoJ. We can use these to our advantage so we can stun, quick get a heal off and continue the fight.ReplyDelete
The little kiddies will never learn to stop complaining until they get smacked in the face with a LOLNerfedHammer. The current state of all classes = OP. All other classes = learn to deal with it.
- Anonymous10:01 AM, October 16, 2008
When did this nerf go into effect? I was playing last night and having a total blast in BGs...except against druids that rooted me, disc priests and locks that kept me chain feared.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous10:15 AM, October 16, 2008
The big deal with Ret right now is the sudden burst damage, and large heals. My ret paladin is hitting heals on my with my holy pally prior to the patch.....but I have a much better crit rate with heals now ;P.ReplyDelete
I have five 70's and the paladin is doing really well, but they aren't "OP SO MUCH OMG" that they need a freakin hot fix for them. My arcane mage is doing well more damage then my Retadin.....mage just doesn't have the instant 2k FOL crit. My rogue destorys anyone with shadow dance, but only once every two minutes. My lock and druid I havn't tried out yet, but I'm sure the druid will be rockin.
If you're interested in the changes upcoming / changes that were put in live, check out SuicidalZebra's blog. Straight post from wow forums.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous11:58 AM, October 16, 2008
Half of these post are great examples of why pallys are looked at as the biggest QQ babies.ReplyDelete
~ Jason, DPS Liberation Front
- Anonymous12:21 PM, October 16, 2008
"Half of these post are great examples of why pallys are looked at as the biggest QQ babies.ReplyDelete
~ Jason, DPS Liberation Front"
I think it's more an example of how the other classes can't deal with the fact that ret pallys are actual competitors, and they can't just mash a button to beat one anymore. It's their crying that brought about the nerfs to begin with. Go troll somewhere else.
Happy Belated Birthday Mr. Rohan!!ReplyDelete
If a plate wearing melee class dealing spell dmg based on weapon dmg and melee stats is imbalanced wait till the babies get stomped by Death Knights.ReplyDelete
The change to physical dmg hurts us most against warriors, paladins, resto druids, resto shamans. This hurts us raid too because bosses will still have armor and lower DS dmg equalls lower raid healing from DS.
I can deal with being lower dmg then a dps class in raid since I provide a steady stream of mana and health to every one.
Turning my crit modifiers into all dmg modifiers and a dot when you crit ability is dumb. All direct dmg crit dmg specs have crit dmg modifiers. The dot is bad, going to hurt group play pvp with a doted target not going to be as controlable.
The change to repentence is dumb. Repentence is use by paladins in the same way rogues use blind.
Ret paladins are still getting demolished by good rogues and ranged classes that can kite.
Ret paladin vs Arms warrior
ret hits arms with DS for 100, ret gets healed for 20(or 10 if mortal strike is up) this is how is with holy dmg DS
ret hits arms with ds for 50, ret is healed for 12 (6 is mortal striked) this is how it is with physical dmg DS
Oh well, I am enjoying my Rune Priest these days.
With the reduction to Judgements of Light and Wisdom by 50%, and the nerfage to DS, I really don't see a reason to stay Ret. Prot is actually more viable now.ReplyDelete
What really pisses me off is that folks QQ and we are nerfed via hotfixes, while the things that are promised to us to compensate will come "in the future" Yeah, fat F*ing chance. We'll see that shit in patch 3.6.
You have to realize that there is another hidden nerf here. With changing DS to physical damage, it also looses any benefit from anything that boosts Holy damage. So there is a greater nerf here.
As soon as I can gather more prot gear, it's back to prot for me. Screw ret.
Karl, if this is going to be a big problem, POST ON THE FORUMS ABOUT IT. If you read GhostCrawler's Blue post, he said if these nerfs are going to be a big detriment to a ret's dps and survivability (in comparison to other classes), make a fuss about it! He wants us to tell him if this is hurting the class substantially and they will remedy the situation that will benefit everyone.ReplyDelete
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IF I had a beta account I would. Suggestions and comments on the PTR forums (if they are still up) just get wiped. And let's be real, GC is not reading the public forums.
I actually don't mind the reduction in Burst, as long as it was balanced out. I prefer steady dps when soloing.
The problem is, they are nerfing DPS, Health regen, and Mana regen, while "promising" some fixes to compensate.
So it's a pure nerf, and a rather severe one. And if you aren't on Beta, there's no way to complain.
Actually, posting on other forum websites (Maintankadin and others) will probably get read more by GC than posting on the public WoW forums.
I'll test it tonight, but if what I suspect is true, and then Ret is knocked back down to 2.4.3 levels, I'll go Prot as soon as I gather the gear. It's hard enough getting into PVE groups as Ret now.
- Mangin, Area 523:01 PM, October 18, 2008
"RJ said: The internal testers and the beta testers are (mainly) very bright and motivated people, but they're still probably less then 1% of the total player-base."ReplyDelete
Please keep in mind, bright and motivated people are not going to cry about a rebalancing. The people I've heard QQing the most are people that I couldn't destroy before. Ret paladins have always been deadly to s stunned opponent. Most people can't stand paladins doing decent damage for once.
I hope for Blizzards sake they don't touch this class at all. They took away my mana efficency and respectable healing (I played a secondary healer for 3 years I've come to terms with playing back up)
Yes they buffed us as prot so we are closer to Main Tank worthy but now we "are on par with a protection warrior" except that prot warriors got a buff in damage, and now they have a respectable AOE for tanking and removed the mob limit on thunderclap.
So let me have a turn at being OP for a time. Before it was spam bolt warlocks, no one cried nerf the locks! Druids have been unbelieveably broken in PVP since BC dropped, Everyone but druid cried out for those nerfs, they never came. If you have a problem with a little pally love FINALLY coming down the path for us, talk to my axe.


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Re: koffice is a copy.
Exactly the opposite is what should be done if anything.
Ever heard of separation of content and presentation?
A DTP app is a DTP app and a word processor is a word processor. There's a reason for that.
By Robert at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Calamus (for Atari ST)
Perhaps something like Calamus would be good? It was a DTP app that did a nice separation (at least for my taste) between content and presentation. It had a little word...mmm...editor (not a wordprocessor I think) good enought to write any text
By Miguel Angel Lopez at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: koffice is a copy.
To some extent, all office suites are copies of MS Office at the moment, because interoperability with windows is still a key issue for other platforms. However, KOffice is better positions than most to come up with radical new ideas. If you've got some of these, why not contribute to KOffice? OpenOffice can follow the path of being the cross platfrom relyable MS Office clone, allowing KOffice to continue the KDE tradition of integrating a variety of unique new features in interesting ways.
You're only a troll if your comments aren't intended to constructive. Why not try describing some aspects of your ideal office suite in more detail.
By Craig Ambrose at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: koffice is a copy.
Excuse me!
WordPerfect is NOT a copy of M$ Word.
And, I believe that Quattro Pro is a copy of Lotus 123 NOT M$ Excel.
By James Richard Tyrer at Sat, 2005/01/22 - 6:00am
KOffice doesn't copy anything, why it sucks
Get your facts straight. Since when does KOffice look and feel like Word? This is why it is so clunky and hard to use.
By Turd Ferguson at Sat, 2005/01/22 - 6:00am
OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
KDE integration of OpenOffice.org is better...
it would be better to add frame and other koffice features to OpenOffice.org and merging it with koffice for a better Office suite.
I find OpenOffice.org with KDE integration more useful than KOffice alone or just OpenOffice.org.
So, Please instead of reinventing the wheel for koffice, add KDE components to OpenOffice.org and make it useable bothways, as openoffice.org has more developers and userbase.
OpenOffice + Koffice + KDE fancy stuff (DCOP, embedding etc). will be the best thing for KDE and Unix.
By Asif Ali Rizwaan at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
i totally agree!
By Hannes Hauswedell at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Several Reasons
1. KOffice is orders of magnitude faster than OpenOffice, even if you use the Ximian optimized builds. I can't claim to know exactly why this is true, if it is bloat or poor design or what, but it is undeniable.
2. OpenOffice is never going to be as integrated with KDE as KOffice. Even if it does get QT and KIO support, it will never use DCOP, or KScriptInterface, or KPart embedding.
3. Choice. There is nothing wrong with more options. So many people wrongly assume that "you are wasting time working on X when Y is already here, why not improve that", these people do not understand open source. The people working on KOffice would liekly never work on Open Office, for one reason or another. So them working on KOffice is not a "waste" or anything else. They are just providing more options, some people will use it, some won't. At the end of the day, nothing is ever lost from their efforts, and there is in fact a huge gain, because even if no one but the developers use KOffice, there is now a huge new repository of great codebase to draw on for ideas.
By Jason Keirstead at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: Several Reasons
Full ACK to parent.
By Martin at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: developer and end-users - not the same person
I heard Microsoft has something like 10000 employees. Most of them are not developers. Yet Microsoft has something like or more than 90% market share when it comes to word processors, spreadsheets and so on. Their platform is unfree in every sense of the word, yet end-users "love" them. End-users get to do what they want, most of the time.
Now, we want to address the issue of proprietary formats and unfree software. OpenOffice.org and KOffice are our horses and MS Office way ahead, closing on the finish line. Our horses came late to the race, and it's amazing how much they are gaining. Will it be enough? The race is long, so there are pit-stops, where the horses are fed. Now, do we have enough food aka developers for two horses to sway the race-track audience, or should we ask for more food to one of the two? Not on a permanent basis, but to satisfy end-users? I think it would be a good idea for the project managers of both projects to come together and discuss this.
By Anonymous at Thu, 2005/01/20 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
well, as told before, openoffice is a huge memory monster.
people can work on what they want.
but I am sure koffice can have a good future.
By Mark Hannessen at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
Actually KOffice read (and rendered) a MS Word document waaaay better than OO.o and is from what I've tried, KOffice rendered better MS Word documents. My problem is it doesn't export to .doc files. So who am I to send my documents? Myself. Interoperability with MS Office is the key to the next succesfull office suite (just like interoperability with word perfect was for ms office back then).
By Adrian at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
Ever tried to send as RTF file?
If you need, then just change the extension to .doc. -> Save and send -> Done
By tempa at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
Who controls the development process for openoffice?
How long would it take to become familiar enough with the codebase to make substantial changes compared to starting with KOffice?
Are you serious when you suggest that there should be a monopoly in free office type software?
There is a good reason why development has continued on Koffice and Abiword and Gnumeric and the other office type apps.
By Derek Kite at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
The KOffice developers have already put six or seven years of their lives into getting KOffice up to it's current state, do you really think they'd just throw all of that work away and start hacking on OpenOffice?
By greg at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: OpenOffice.org + KOffice = KDE OFFice :)
There's been a fair bit of churn in the developer pool... Reginald Stadlbauer doesn't do any KOffice development anymore, and Krita is on its fourth lease of oxygen, I mean maintainership. And so on and so forth.
By Boudewijn Rempt at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Hold your horses there, pard'ner.
I have found that koffice is exactly what I need. It is useable and it is quick, light and I find intuitive. OO while more feature rich and MS Office complient, and strkes me as heading towards clunky.
My wife, OTH uses OO and scribus. She likes both depending on what she is trying to do. But she was comfortable with Pagemaker, Quark, FrameMaker, and MS Office, so that is not too surprising.
But do not be in a hurry to kill this. It strikes me the same way that others have pushed to kill konqi for web browsing (and want to push mozilla in).
By a.c. at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
KOffice presentations
FYI, I'm doing a presentation mainly on possibilities of KOffice automation and KDE integration at the http://www.itnt.at (Vienna) on the 17th of Feb.
And if nothing stops me I'll be at FOSDEM and doing a similar talk on KOffice, particularly on automation and integration (DCOP,...), focusing on developing such automation (with Kommander, etc.). This will be held in the KDE Developers Room - see http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=fosdem-2005 for details.
I feel like this is really a significant potential of KOffice that needs a bit of awareness.
By Raphael Langerhorst at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Some thoughts
Firstly, koffice's modifications to the way kparts work should be added to the "real" kparts as fast as practical, because they're really useful. It's got to the stage that new applications tend to provide koffice kparts rather than "normal" ones. While this is not really a problem, IMO it shows that koffice kparts are simply what kparts should be.
By mikeyd at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: Some thoughts
To me your advanced spreadsheet stuff sounds like some kind of mythical creature, as I have actually never seen any. On the other hand if you describe which functions you need for different tasks to the KSpread developers I am sure developing those functions will get a higher priority. Since real world user cases from real world users always trumps the vague "since other does" statements.
I have nothing against Kexi, it actually looks like it's going to become a great application. The fact is Linux has actually had an Access replacement for years, even cross platform, it's called Rekall. Sadly I don't think an replacement solves that particular problem, it's more like need for a clone to let them keep on running those Access programs.
In my opinion database development tools like Access or Kexi does not belong in a office package. I suspect the main reason for Access inclusion in MS-Office was to help create a vendor lock-in for MicroSoft. And I have to admit it was a very successful move.
Re: Some thoughts
Well, it looks like Poisson distributions have been added since last time I looked, which is good. But in order to port my Excel spreadsheets I still need table lookups (main problem), and also the SUMIF function (like COUNTIF, but gives a sum of cells rather than just the number of cells matching a criterion). But the fact that another couple of things I would have listed here are actually present in the current version is an encouraging sign.
By mikeyd at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: Some thoughts
I also think KSpread lacks features.
What I really miss is better chart support, like in LabPlot or QtiPlot. Everytime I want to use advanced charts with regression curves or custom error bars, I have to use Excel. Even OpenOffice does not support that.
Otherwise, I like the KOffice suite, especially the speed and KDE integration compared to OpenOffice.
By TMG at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
KOffice Rocks!
//Begin rant
I guess I'm the only poster who actually thinks KOffice is a good thing. I believe KOffice can integrate with KDE better than OpenOffice.org will ever be able to. KOffice is also a very high-performance suite. OO.org is sluggish. Also, have you ever thought that KDE devs might actually LIKE working on KOffice and not OO.org?! Just because you want them to work on OO.org integration doesn't mean THEY want to. If you want to have OO.org integration, why don't you code it yourself?
//End rant
By secretfire at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: KOffice Rocks!
I think I give the highest compliment to KOffice just about every day:
I use it.
It has worked fine for me for many years, especially KWord.
By Evan "JabberWok... at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Have a look at OO 2.0 alphas
OO 2 will rock.
KOffice is an alternative and when OO and Koffice share the same file formats You can use OO filters for import and provide Koffice as an alternative editing program.
By gerd at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Go KOffice!
I don't use KOffice much myself, since I'm not really an office software user, still I love KDE and love to see something like this under development. I do have the latest KOffice installed though, and always install new releases and give a try to every package just to see its state. Most apps open in a blink and seem quite stable, at least for the small jobs I've used them for.
I'm really impatient about Krita this time, hope it becomes as good as the GIMP with time. Also, I don't know if Karbon14 is still mantained, but having a full-featured vector graphics app for KDE surely wouldn't hurt.
All in all I think KOffice is already quite good but most importantly it has great potential to become a top office suite. Let's see what it is like by KDE 4 with all that Qt4 has to offer :)
Big thanks to all the great developers!
By Pedro Fayoll at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: Go KOffice!
There is a binary "release" of Krita you can just download, unpackage and attempt to run -- but it will interfere with your existing KOffice installation.
And I, for one, have a hard time doing without KOffice. There is no free office suite with quite the breadth of KOffice. It has not just a word processor and a presentation app, like Apple's new iWorks, nor does it stop at adding a spreadsheet, vector drawing tool and database app, like OpenOffice, it also throws in a really great diagram editor (I use Kivio a lot, probably more than any other KOffice app), a pixel editor, a report tool and a planner.
I only wish that Quanta and Umbrello would be KOffice parts, too...
On the other hand, KOffice has had a hard time. Moving to an OASIS file format was (and is) difficult, time-consuming and boring. And it takes developer time from making the apps more featureful, more stable and in general more polished. That's why I didn't spend all that much time dreaming up an OASIS spec for layered raster images -- it would have delayed Krita development with another year, and that's a conservative estimate, because I don't know whether I would have continued hacking on Krita in that case. There are also basic limitations in Qt that Scribus only could overcome through the use of an external canvas, and those hurt KWord development.
And there's just not enough people interested in developing office software. OpenOffice is not so much a community project as the old StarOffice office (mostly staffed with new people nowadays, I hear) paid by Sun to work on the incredibly tangled codebase of StarOffice. I'm not sure how many different people have contributed to KOffice in 2004, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only who wouldn't mind being paid full-time to work on KOffice. It's a pity that the cooperation with Shawn Gordon from theKompany has petered out...
By Boudewijn at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
koffice should get inspired by iWork
Let me start with saying that KOffice is really great! However, it can always be better.. :)
I think it would be really nice with the same kind of integration between koffice and other application, as apple has between iwork and ilife. Apples solution seemes really nice thanks to the good integration. Watch the keynote speech (from apples webpage) and see for yourselves! :)
By Magnus at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: koffice should get inspired by iWork
# apt-get install iwork
By koos at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: koffice should get inspired by iWork
it's spelled iWork :)
By guy at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Reuse of OOo file filters?
As far as I can see, a main reason that people stick with OpenOffice.org is its superior .doc file support. I wonder if it's a lot of work to port the OpenOffice .doc filter to KOffice (maybe the other ones are as useful too?) in order to enable KOffice users to abandon OOo. If I remember right, there's even a command line tool in OOo, so if this is not too much work to separate it should bring more users (and maybe also developers) to KOffice.
Of course, it would be better if the OpenOffice.org developers would split their file support into a separate library which would enable other Open Source office suites to keep the same high standard for importing files and work together on file support. Well, I don't want to know how long I have to wait for that.
But even without library, there's still the same destination format (OASIS) that both can use, so it can't be that difficult to import some "foreign code", or is it?
By Jakob Petsovits at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: Reuse of OOo file filters?
I think I once read that the filter code is really hard to comprehend (- and has most of its comments in german?!??)
But still, there are lots of competent german KDE-people...so maybe someone will do it.
I guess that the original post was sort of a call for participation.
By Anders at Mon, 2005/01/17 - 6:00am
Re: Reuse of OOo file filters?
By SegFault II. at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: Reuse of OOo file filters?
It still is.
Most OOo developers are in Germany and secondly Ireland. And most users are probably in Europe.
By Daniel Carrera at Wed, 2005/01/19 - 6:00am
Re: Reuse of OOo file filters?
As this is a FAQ, I am pointing to one of my old answers about the problem:
I would not mind if someobody would prove that I am wrong but I doubt that it will happen so soon, especially as this OOo filter discussion is now years old.
Have a nice day!
By Nicolas Goutte at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
When will KDE get it?
Perception is reality.
Currently KDE is not marketing itself well and it is not creating the momentum such an excellent piece of software should have.
The website does not look attractive enough, there is not enough press and the fund raising efforts are pathetic. Take a page from GNOME on this, they are getting the corporate support and $$$ at a greater rate than KDE. Or are they? It doesn't really matter because that is the perception and business executives will make decisions baesd on these perceptions.
1. The GNOME.org website is easy to use, clean and with a graphically intensive layout. KDE looks like any other lame and arid website. It doesn't please the senses and it doesn't entice new users. The fact that most KDE websites such as for Konqueror and Kmail are either out of date or terrible unappealing does not help either.
2. KDE needs to better show off its corporate support and features as GNOME has. It needs to be obvious without searching past the front page.
3. Fundraising sucks to. There was actually a wish on this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63868 which got lots of votes. It proposed a way to make KDE more attractive to donate to. However, the developers kust didn't care about this issue.
To quote Stephan Binner:
"Nobody on kde-www sees a reason why this should stay open."
And then it was marked as fixed, all the while, nothing changed.
Meanwhile, GNOME has 1/3 of their front page dedicated to the GNOME Foundation and approximately half of the page is comprised of a graphic asking people to help out and support the project. They also have distinguishing names based on the amount you donate and also gifts. They make sure donors feel happy and people have an incentive to donate.
SpreadFirefox also has very solid marketing efforts and as 20 million people will tell you, it's working.
KDE needs to understand that half of what makes a successful product is marketing. (which creates momentum and acceptance) Please don't let KDE become the next great technology that never really saw the light.
BTW: Please don't ask me to do my part and help. I have. Saying taht "shut the hell up and do something" type of remark won't solve the problem.
By Tom at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: When will KDE get it?
Why doesn't KDE have an easily accessable donations page? I mean it cannot be alot of work and it it brings in enough money to pay for some development costs its gotta be worth it. I would like to see a commercial support page too. I know I would donate money. Heck you could put a "donate to kde" option on the darn help menu (something stupidly simple to do.)
By brockers at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: When will KDE get it?
As to the original poster, I think the GNOME homepage is a complete joke in terms of a website for a Free Software project.
By ac at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: When will KDE get it?
I newer said they didn't exist. I said they weren't prominent enough and are not implemented well. There is never a sense of immediecy like there is on gnome.org. When I look at GNOME's website I feel that they need me to donate, when I look at KDE's support page it only seems like it would be nice. That's one stark difference and it's stopping KDE from getting more $$$. (flashy graphics also help)
Anyway, what is so wrong with gnome.org? It brought in more donations than KDE did and a lot of corporate sponsors too. (ie: Sun, Novell, and Redhat)
By Tom at Tue, 2005/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: When will KDE get it?
> what is so wrong with gnome.org? It brought in more donations than KDE did and a lot of corporate sponsors
Corporate sponsors because of gnome.org homepage? Get serious.
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I come to you today writing inside a train bound for Paris. We were supposed to take a plane. But the Icelandic ash cloud messed that up. Right now we've reached the suburbs and I'm being distracted by all the crazy graffiti and ancient stone churches with their flying buttresses.
The first four days of my European tour of 2010 were spent in London at the home of Andrew Deakin. Andrew is a student of Mike Leutchford, a fellow dharma heir of Nishijima Roshi. I didn't do much Zen stuff in the UK except for having long wide-ranging philosophical discussions with Andrew. He kindly gave me his extra copy of Leonard Cohen Live In London DVD, though. Which, he says, has a very Zen feel to it. I'm looking forward to watching it.
After London I flew to Limoges in France. The flight was booked by my host in France, Arnaud Peuch. It was on Ryan Air, Europe's cheapest airline, and left London's Stansted airport at 6:45 AM. This meant waking up at 3:30 AM to catch a 4:10 AM Stansted Express train, which left from Liverpool Street Station, luckily a mere 25 minute walk from Andrew's flat.
In spite of the massive ash cloud from the recent volcano in Iceland making its merry way around Europe, the plane for Limoges left on time. Limoges itself is a pretty nifty town. Not the kind of place I'd ever have thought of going on my own. But apparently it's a popular destination for touring rock bands. The night I arrived, Atari Teenage Riot was playing a reunion concert there at the Centre Cultural de John Lennon. I wonder if Yoko Ono approved that name.
I did my first European talk at the Bibliothèque Francophone Multimédias, the town library. I wasn't expecting massive crowds seeing as how none of my stuff is available in French except for on a now long-defunct website. And massive crowds I did not get. But I was pretty impressed that a healthy group of healthy people showed up to see some American Zen teacher they'd probably never heard of before they saw the fliers Arnaud put up around town.
This was the first time I had ever spoken through a translator. Last year when I did talks in Finland and Germany, I did them in English to English speaking audiences. In Finland pretty much everyone speaks English, while in Germany the retreats I led were advertised as being conducted in English so nobody would be surprised.
Nathalie, the translator, did a good job of making sense of what I was saying. But it couldn't have been easy for her. In my work as a translator in Japan I found that what really made it possible was the fact that I always came to the job with a fairly deep knowledge of the Japanese monster movies the people I usually ended up translating for made. Nathalie wasn't a Zennie at all and had a bit of difficulty finding French equivalents for words like "Heart Sutra" and suchlike.
The Q&A was interesting in that it seemed to be focused on my spiritual accomplishments. One guy wanted to know if I remained conscious even while dreaming. There were one or two others along those lines. I recorded the talk so maybe I'll get it up on the podcast we're working on one of these days.
The following day Arnaud and I sat Zazen with a group led by a female Zen monk who had been ordained by Jaques Brasse. It was one of those rare Zen groups with more women than men, which is always good to see.
After that Arnaud drove me to Toulouse, about three hours to the South. I did a talk there at a sort of collectivist co-op type art space and restaurant. The audience there was far younger. There was a bit of tension with one woman who had a beer in her hand and seemed to be quite upset by what I was saying. I think she wanted some more bells and whistles. It was hard to tell. My friend and fellow Nishijima Roshi dharma heir Michel Proulx, a regular contributor to the comments section, did the tranductions (translation). Got that one recorded as well. It should make for an interesting podcast.
It's now the day after I began this post and I'm in Paris. Next stop Poland. All info is at http://web.me.com/doubtboy/Site/BookTour_2010.html
See ya!
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What is a 403(b) Plan?
403(b) Plans generally serve as voluntary supplemental retirement savings plans designed to supplement retirement benefits available from State pension plans and Social Security. The IRS provides a Summary of 403(b) Plan Basics page and a 403(b) Plan Brochure for Employees on its website.
What is a 457(b) Plan?
457(b) Plans are supplemental retirement savings plans similar to 403(b) Plans, and are called Deferred Compensation Plans (DCP for short)for state and local government employees (including public school employees). Some public school employers offer 457(b) DCPs and others do not. Check your employer's section of this CCC website for additional information about 457(b) DCPs or Click here for frequently asked questions about 457(b) Plans.
Am I eligible for catch-up contributions?
Catch-up provisions are subject to availability under your employer's plan (please see your employer's page for additional details).
If you are age 50 or over by the end of the current year, you are eligible to use the Age 50 Catch-up (if this catch-up is available under your employer's plan).
There are other catch-ups available to some employees who meet very specific eligibility requirements. If you will complete at least 15 years of full time service with your current employer by the end of the calendar year, you may be eligible additional amounts under the 403(b) 15 Years of Service Catch-up (if this catch-up is available under your employer's plan). For 457(b) plans, if this year is one of the last three years before your normal retirement age you may be eligible for the 3 Year Catch-up (if this catch-up is available under your employer's plan). For these catch-ups, determination of eligibility requires collection and evaluation of historical service, payroll, and contribution data for all periods of employment back to your initial hire date from your employer. If you wish to defer more than the basic elective deferral limit, or the basic limit plus the Age 50 Catch-up amount for participants turning 50 or better by the end of the year, contact CCC and we will request the required data from your employer to make a determination. (Please note: data requests of this nature make take time to fulfill and will be subject to availability.)
Click here for more details concerning contribution limits.
What are my 403(b) or 457(b) rollover options and the taxation concerns connected to distributions from my account(s) once I have obtained a qualifying event for distribution?
When taking a rollover or distribution from a 403(b) or 457(b) account, one must consider all options available to them and the tax consequences associated with those options. Most vendors provide a notice called a "402(f)" that describes the various rollover options and the applicable taxes associated with distributions and rollover options that comes as a part of or addendum to the vendor's distribution and rollover forms. Usually the participant's authorization section of one of these forms requires the participant to attest to the fact they have read the notice pertaining to taxation and understand the applicable tax consequences of the transaction they are submitting. (Please note: the IRS provided generic model language for 402(f) Notice in 2009 (Notice 2009-68), this model language is viewable here.) CCC strongly encourages participants to seek the advice of a qualified and trusted financial advisor and/or tax consultant concerning investment and distribution choices.
When am I considered "severed from employment" as it pertains to my 403(b) or 457(b) account(s)?
Severance is defined as a complete severance from any employment relationship with the Employer sponsoring the 403(b) and/or 457(b) plan.
CCC has created guidance for employers to determine if an employee meets the criteria to be considered "severed from employment". This document is available here.
My employer is offering a post-severance Early Retirement Incentive (ERI) program. If I decide to participate, will I have the option to defer any portion of these payments into my 403(b) or 457(b) accounts?
No, post-severance deferrals from ERI stipends are not allowed.
If you are an employer considering an ERI program, please contact CCC as the rules concerning these programs are complex and failure to appropriately set up this program may have unintended consequences.
Can I take a hardship withdrawal from my 403(b) account?
Hardship Distributions are only available under certain circumstances and require documentation. Note: hardship transactions are subject to availability under your employer's plan (please see your employer's page for additional details). Please visit our Hardships page for details on the circumstances under which these distributions are available and the CCC Hardship Request Form.
I have received a check from my investment provider (or parent entity) that is payable to my Employer pertaining to a legal settlement. What should I do with this check?
Some of these checks appear to be payable to the Employer with no mention of the Employee, while others appear to be payable to the Employer for the benefit of the Employee. The best information available on this issue may be found on the settlement administrator's website or by calling the settlement administrator's service center, this information should appear in the letter or checkstub that accompanied the check you received.
Does CCC provide financial or investment advice? Where should I go for financial or investment advice?
No. CCC provides only compliance monitoring and plan administration services to its client Employers.You may wish to check out our useful links page for information on researching investment products and services.
Does PERS affect my 403(b) or 457(b) contributions?
The general answer is no. You are allowed to contribute right up to your elective deferral limit into either or both of the 403(b) and 457(b) plans, irrespective of employee and employer PERS contributions.
The only situations in which PERS contributions impact your ability to contribute to 403(b) and/or 457(b) plans is when your gross salary is fairly low. Since contributions are limited to 100% of compensation, if employee PERS contributions are pre-tax salary deductions, they reduce your compensation. Consequently, they reduce the amount you can contribute to the 403(b) and/or 457(b) plans.
What is the process to add a provider to my employer's list of vendors?
The process for adding a "provider" (our terminology is "Vendor with an Active Payroll Slot") may be found in your employer's 403(b) Plan Document. To get there, click on Employee Entrance button up top and then select your Employer. Then click menu item: 403(b) Plan Document.
Can I move 403(b) funds to another Vendor? to an IRA?
If contract exchanges are allowed under your employer's plan, 403(b) funds can be exchanged with and to an eligible 403(b) vendor in your employer's plan. Rollovers out of the plan to another eligible retirement account (such as an IRA) are only possible if you are eligible for a distribution, typically by attaining age 59-1/2 or severing employment depending on the rules of of your employer's plan. Please visit your employer's page for additional information.
Is it possible to use my 403(b)/457(b) account to purchase pension plan Permissive Service Credit?
The answer is yes in the States of Oregon and Washington, provided the employer's 403(b) or 457(b) plan document allows for Permissive Service Credit Transfers. Additional background information on Permissive Service Credit Transfers can be found here. Please note: Permissive Service Credit Transfers require Plan Administrative Approval, to issue the approval a copy of documentation issued by the State Retirement Plan documenting the exact dollar amount required for the purchase of service or waiting time is required.
I have received a package of corrective distribution documents from CCC informing me that I exceeded my elective deferral limit last year and must sign and return the documents for further processing and report the excess deferral amount on my tax return for last year. Please explain?
Carruth Compliance Consulting, Inc. (CCC) serves as Third Party Administrator (TPA) for the 403(b) Tax Sheltered Annuity (TSA) Plan of your employer. One service CCC provides is testing contributions for compliance with IRS imposed contribution limits and assisting employees in the timely correction of excess contribution when they occur to avoid additional taxation.
The following steps were taken by CCC in attempts to obtain sufficient human resources, payroll, and vendor remittance data to verify your eligibility for up to $3,000 in additional elective deferrals under the 15 Years-of-Service Catch-up Provision found in Section 402(b)(7) of the Internal Revenue Code:
1) We requested that your employer provide data as far back as such data were available on current systems;
2) Either we didn't receive data at all and had to work with ad hoc information provided by your employer or we received insufficient data to determine eligibility for catch-up contributions;
3) When data received in Steps 1) and 2) were insufficient to determine eligibility, we requested from your employer either copies of your historical W-2 Forms or copies of your historical Salary Reduction Agreements;
4) Since data received in Steps 1), 2), and 3) have proved to be insufficient to determine eligibility, the only options remaining are for you to provide copies of your W-2 Forms or copies of your year-end check stubs to verify historical contributions.
Absent receipt of either historical W-2 Forms or historical year-end check stubs, we must request that you sign the corrective distribution documents and return them to us for submission to your vendor by March 15th, so that the corrective distribution may be made by April 15th.
Neither your employer nor CCC can force you to sign and return the corrective distribution documents. However, we need to inform you that based on information CCC has been provided, you have exceeded your elective deferral limit. If you fail to sign and return to CCC the corrective distribution documents, your tax return for the year the excess occurred is audited by the IRS, and the IRS finds that you did, in fact, exceed your elective deferral limit and failed to process a corrective distribution, then the excess deferral will be taxable during the year the excess occurred (likely requiring you to file an amended tax return) and the excess deferral will be taxable again when it is distributed (resulting in double taxation of the excess deferral that was not timely distributed).
Are my 403(b) and/or 457(b) elective deferrals subject to FICA (Medicare and Social Security) withholdings?
Yes. Employee contributions to both 403(b) and 457(b) plans are subject to FICA withholdings.
*CCC is not licensed to provide financial or tax advice. Any information provided is not intended or written by CCC to be used, and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. Information from CCC relating to Federal tax matters may not be used in promoting, marketing or recommending any entity, investment plan, or arrangement to any taxpayer.
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To celebrate Main Street Ripley's recent move to 109 North Court Street and our 15th year as a certified Main Street program, Main Street Ripley is proud to launch our new Shop Ripley App.
RIPLEY - To celebrate Main Street Ripley's recent move to 109 North Court Street and our 15th year as a certified Main Street program, Main Street Ripley is proud to launch our new Shop Ripley App.
Shop Ripley WV is a quick, easy-to-use app. This FREE App is available from iTunes for the iPhone and Google Play for the Android phone.
Virtually wander downtown through the business directory or find events with our event calendar.
Our business directory enables you to quickly locate a merchant selling what you're looking for. From pizza to storage buildings, it's just a few clicks away.
Our event listings are a quick way to find something to do in Ripley. Additionally keep current on the Mill Creek Water Trail as it develops.This is a free service offered by Main Street Ripley for the city-wide merchants of Ripley. Businesses often turn over and new businesses are always arriving. Staying on top of that transition is not always easy. So Main Street Ripley anticipates the public to help in keeping the directory current. If your business, or a business you frequent, is not listed, just contact Main Street Ripley at 304-372-1637.
All merchants receive a free listing of name, address and phone number.
Business supporters of Main Street Ripley receive an expanded listing consisting of additional information such as photos, logos, web address, email address, additional phone numbers and additional text such as office hours, food venues, product lines. For the cost of a print ad, a business supporter not only receives the satisfaction of supporting the ongoing work of Main Street Ripley, but a continuous mini information brochure available to Smart Phone owners.
In 2010, Main Street Ripley was awarded grant money from the Governor's Innovation Awards, which allowed Main Street Ripley to develop ShopRipleyWV.com and the associated App. ShopRipleyWV.com site is the site that houses the database that feeds the Apps.
Rokusek Design, located in Quincy, Ill., worked with Main Street Ripley to create the App. At a National Main Street Conference in Baltimore, Main Street Ripley attendees met with representatives from Rokusek and were impressed with the personal involvement this company had with local Main Street organizations in Quincy. Their affordability was attractive as well.
Business and family sponsorships help Main Street Ripley keep this award-winning program moving forward in their efforts to support business and keep the community economically vibrant. Do you remember what downtown Ripley looked like 15 years ago?
Main Street Ripley is a 501(c)3 Corporation and is entirely volunteer-driven. If you would like to participate, we will find a place for you that will be very satisfying. Without the good spirit of volunteerism, this program could not exist.
You can find out more information about being listed in the app on our website, www.shopripleywv.com, call 304-372-1637, email firstname.lastname@example.com or visit us at 109 N. Court St.
The iPhone/Android Shop Ripley WV App is a Valentine gift from Main Street Ripley to the merchants and citizens of Ripley. Happy Valentine's Day!


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Norwich: Hinchey the winner in mayor's race
Norwich — Democratic mayoral candidate Deberey Hinchey became the city's first female mayor Tuesday, defeating incumbent Republican Peter Nystrom by 218 votes in a race that was too close to call until the final precinct — the mayor's home district — was reported.
Libertarian candidate William Russell received 369 votes, finishing a distant third.
As she did in her primary victory over fellow Democratic Alderman Charles Jaskiewicz, Hinchey won big in her neighborhood precinct, by 120 votes, with a 113-vote margin in the city's largest voting precinct, which covers much of the urban center, including Nystrom's neighborhood.
Final totals weren't released until nearly 10 p.m. Hinchey was mobbed by supporters as she entered Billy Wilson's Ageing Still shortly thereafter.
"Wonderful," Hinchey said with a smile. "It feels wonderful. On the way over, I got a call from the governor… We worked so hard. We campaigned everywhere."
Nystrom, a Republican with a long record of winning in the heavily Democratic City of Norwich, was visibly disappointed at the loss late Tuesday. He served as a state legislator for 18 years, with two stints on the City Council and one four-year term as mayor.
"I'm disappointed," he said outside the registrars' office at City Hall. "You run for elections. You win some and you lose some."
Both candidates said they worked very hard and ran on the issues, with no attack ads.
One major difference in this year's race was Hinchey's decision to hire a professional campaign consulting firm at a cost of well over $10,000 for the primary and general election campaigns. Nystrom said he could not compete with the more than $24,000 she raised and didn't try. In October, the city's two registrars filed an election complaint with the state against the firm, Vinci Group, accusing the firm's owner of coercing voters and attempting to intimidate registrars.
Hinchey said she based her campaign on making personal contact with as many voters as possible. She said in some cases, residents told her she was the first candidate to come to their doors.
"We wanted voter contact, and that's what we did," she said.
Hinchey pledged to resign from her job as a clinical social worker in Mansfield to devote herself to the mayoral position full time, a point of contention during the campaign. Nystrom works full time for United Parcel Service, but argued that he was able to devote many hours to the mayoral position as well.
Democratic Gov. Dannel P. Malloy and Lt. Gov. Nancy Wyman both issued statements following Hinchey's victory.
"I would like to congratulate Mayor-Elect Deb Hinchey on her history-making win tonight — becoming the first woman elected mayor of Norwich," Malloy said. "She's been an advocate for investing in downtown infrastructure for economic development, while also supporting local services that guarantee a great quality of life. I look forward to working with her and partnering with her administration."
Wyman said Hinchey is dedicated to working on important issues that affect the local economy, such as "education, downtown revitalization and public safety. I'm excited to see what strides she will make during her first term," he said.
The City Council during the first two years of Hinchey's four-year term will include a mixture of experience and new blood.
Democrats Terell Wilson and Bill Eyberse won seats, along with incumbent Democrats Mark Bettencourt, the highest vote-getter, and Francois "Pete" Desaulniers. Republican incumbent Sofee Noblick and Republican former Alderman Bill Nash also won.
With the mayor having a vote on the seven-member City Council, Democrats once again will have the maximum allowed 5-2 majority.
"It's still a little surreal," Wilson, 21, said after confirming his victory. "It's been kind of overwhelming."
Wilson might be new to city politics, but not to elected leadership roles. He served five years as president of the NAACP state chapter's Youth and College Council. He said he will bring the youth perspective, giving a voice to the generation that will inherit the city in the years to come.
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LISTEN TONIGHT TO SUICIDE GIRLS RADIO and DHARMA PUNX REPORT
I'll be on Suicide Girls radio tonight at 1 AM Pacific Time. Listen live on the Internet or later on the podcast. It should be interesting.
This morning I lead Zazen and spoke at the Dharma Punx/Against The Stream place on Melrose in Hollywood. That was fun as usual. Noah was even there, which he wasn't the last time I spoke.
So for my topic I chose to start out talking about a comment I saw in this blog. Yeah, I peeked in again. But I'm not making a habit of it. Why, you ask? Because I saw one comment that said Brad cannot stand criticism and will only be satisfied when every commenter is a sycophantic clone. So I went looking for some of this intelligent criticism and what do I see? A guy telling the world how Brad Warner is not a "real punk" (oh yeah?). He grew up in the "rich suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio" and did not suffer like Noah Levine did.
The rich suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio? Do you guys even read back the things you write before you shoot them off into cyberspace? Cuz Cleveland, Ohio is just rolling in cash, you know. As is Akron, whose suburbs I actually did grow up in (Akron is not the same city as Cleveland, please use Wikipedia for further clarification).
Noah seemed amused. I know I was. This is like the fourth or fifth time I've seen postings warning readers of this blog not to be fooled by phonies like me but to turn to the real deal, Noah Levine instead. I sure hope nobody is putting similar comments on Noah's forums urging people to go to me instead.
Anyhow, the point I was trying to make was that there is no Universal Scale of Suffering by which we can determine who has suffered more and who has suffered less. In fact this is a particularly insidious idea. The idea that some forms of suffering are more worthy of compassion than other forms of suffering is one of those absurd notions that makes people miserable.
I used to suffer from massive headaches on a regular basis. At the time it never occurred to me that they could be caused by stress and depression. After all, here I was in the "rich suburbs of Cleveland" -- actually living in a room at the Kent Zendo, working shit jobs to barely make the absurdly low rent. I'd never had leprosy. I wasn't dealing with a heroin addiction. I had not been abused by my parents. What could I possibly have to stress about? The only real stress was the kind that made for a good TV Movie of the Week. Or at least an Afterschool Special.
So I did not deal with my own stress and depression. And as a result I spread that stress and depression to everyone I met.
Don't judge your feelings by the standards of others.
Anyhow, it was a real good session and I got some good questions. Mainly the topic was about how Zen differed from Vipassana. I don't know much about Vipassana. So I just talked Zen.
Zen is at once the least popular practice in Buddhism in the US today and the most talked about one. Folks are terrified of Zen, and yet fascinated by it at the same time. But, really, it's not that scary. It's not very warm and fuzzy, I'll grant you that. But the scary stuff you've heard is mostly exaggeration.
I'll be there again on June 21st. See ya then!


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Malloy praises gun, safety bills package
Hartford — Legislative leaders and Gov. Dannel P. Malloy expect a bipartisan bill on gun control, mental health and school safety to be passed in the Senate and House today — days before President Barack Obama visits Connecticut Monday to push for federal gun control legislation.
Malloy said he would sign the bill as soon as he gets it.
"This is a good moment," Malloy said Tuesday. "We have a bipartisan package that moves the ball down the field quite a distance, and I think is already being heralded as a demonstration to the rest of the country of what can be done when people work together and put aside some of their differences. So this is a good day."
Local legislators said this was one of the most controversial bills they would be voting on and acknowledged that the bill didn't make anyone completely happy. Those in favor of gun control said the proposed bill was an "incredible" step in the right direction but that there is more work to be done, while gun advocates said the measures would not make people safer and that mental health services should have been the focus instead.
But the proposed bill would increase access to mental health services and improve school security measures. Mental health programs would be expanded, and insurance companies would be more tightly monitored with regard to how much mental health treatment they provide patients.
Schools would have access to more funds for school security infrastructure and would be required to maintain safety plans, which would be reviewed by the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection.
Mental health services
The bill would expand opportunities to incorporate mental health first-aid training into school systems. For example, the bill would require the state's Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services to administer a mental health first-aid training program that focuses on identifying signs of mental disorders in children and young adults and helping them access services.
The bill also would create a task force to study the state's mental health system, including early intervention, gaps in insurance coverage, outpatient commitment and the reporting responsibilities of mental health professionals. A report of the group's findings would be due Feb. 1.
The bill also would change how commercial insurance companies operate. The state's Insurance Department would be required to evaluate how it determines whether insurers are complying with state and federal mental health parity laws, which require insurers or health care service plans to provide the same level of benefits for treating mental illness or substance abuse as they do for physical disorders or diseases.
The bill also would indicate specific criteria for the treatment of a disorder, which would make decisions to provide coverage more consistent among insurers and give consumers a clear reason for being denied coverage. Consumers could appeal a denial.
Making schools safer
School security is another major component of the legislation. New security measures would apply to both K-12 schools and higher education institutions.
The bill would create a School Safety Infrastructure Council, which would develop safety standards for school building projects. The initial standards would be designed by Jan. 1 and would be updated annually as needed. The bill would reauthorize the competitive grant program that reimburses towns for school security infrastructure upgrades. Reimbursement would be between 20 percent and 80 percent, depending on the municipality.
The state's Education and Emergency Services and Public Protection departments would develop school security and safety plan standards by Jan. 1. Schools would be required to create their own school security and safety plans and submit them to DESPP.
Gun control
Overall, legislators have agreed more on mental health and school safety provisions than gun control measures, legislative leaders have said.
Some of the proposed gun control initiatives include universal background checks, an expanded definition of an assault weapon and a ban on the sale or purchase of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets.
Jonathan Scalise, owner of New Britain-based Ammunition Storage Components, said the proposed ban on the sale and purchase of high-capacity magazines would make 52 percent of his products illegal in Connecticut. He could sell the high-capacity magazines outside of the state, he said, but he was concerned about what the proposed regulations would do to his business.
"We have had customers that are strongly encouraging us to move to other locations because they don't want to do business in Connecticut," Scalise said.
But others were in favor of the bill. Nancy Lefkowitz, co-founder of the grass-roots organization March for Change, said, "We are putting aside perfect to make way for really good."
State Rep. Diana Urban, D-North Stonington, said she would have preferred to ban the possession of high-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, but that she would vote for the bill because it would make the lives of children and families safer.
State Rep. Edward Moukawsher, D-Groton, said, he, too, would vote for the bill.
"I have never seen so much passion on both sides so strongly," he said. "It's been a very difficult issue to reach some consensus on, so I am glad that we are finally taking some action."
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DescriptionWonderful end unit straight thru starter home in very nice condition with good sized rooms gleaming hardwood floors and the home is vacant and ready to move right into. Corner location, easy access to I-95 and shopping and only 3 blocks from the local recreation park on Cottman. Semi-enclosed front porch 1 car garage.
Exterior Features
- New Construction: N
- Property Condition: Average+
- Design: 2-Story
- Exterior: Brick
- Farm: N
- Land Only: N
- Land SQFT: 1072
- Land Use Code: R30
- Lot Dimensions: 16X66
- Lot Number: 421
- Parking: 1-CarParking
- Swimming Pool: No
- Pool Type: NoPool
- Porch Deck: Patio
- Roof: FlatRoof
- Story List: Lower 1,Main,Upper 1
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Interior Features
- Includes: Refrigerator, Washer, Blinds
- Room List: Living Room,Dining Room,Bedroom-Master,Bedroom-Second,Bedroom-Third,Kitchen
- Basement: Y
- Basement Type: Partial,Unfinished
- Garage Type: Attached
- Garage Spaces: 1-CarGarage
- Heating: Gas,Radiator
- Hot Water: Natural Gas
- Cooling: None
- Central Air: N
- Cooking Fuel: GasCooking
- Fireplace: N
- Fireplace Count: NoFireplace
- Flooring: Wood
- Handicap: None
Water & Sewer
- Water: Public
- Sewer or Septic: Public Sewer
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- County: PHILADELPHIA
- School District: Philadelphia
- Subdivision: HOLMESBURG
- Property Age: 78
- Status: SOLD
- Listed on: 2007-08-22
- Taxes: 899.00