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Purple is one color Prairie Central head coach Alan Dunahee would be happy not to see any time soon. For the second day in a row, a team clad in purple defeated the Hawks in a nonconference baseball game.
Prairie Central lost a 14-2 decision to Manteno in a makeup game at PCHS.
Starter Stuart Schopp took the loss after giving up 13 runs on 11 hits and four walks. Jordan Dunahee took over in the fifth inning and yielded the Panthers' final tally. He walked one and gave up one hit.
Manteno touched Schopp for four runs in the first inning. Dating back to Thursday's loss to Lexington, it was the second straight inning PC yielded a four-run frame.
The Panthers added another four-spot in the third before plating six in the fifth inning.
Prairie Central scored its runs in the first and fourth frames. The Hawks managed just three hits as Devin Crews, Dunahee and Wenger each singled. Wenger also had a run batted in.
Lexington 5, Eureka 5
EUREKA — Lexington followed up Thursday's win over Prairie Central by tying Eureka in a 10-inning game called due to darkness.
"This is a good team," LHS head coach Dave Lingle said. "There's a few more things we need to do to be a special team. We need to finish games."
The Minutemen fell behind 2-1 after two innings but rallied to tie it with a run in the top of the fourth inning. A Chase Payne sacrifice fly drove in Donavan Laible with the equalizer.
Lexington did not trail the rest of the game. LHS took a 3-2 lead in the fifth when Ted Lingle scored on a Laible sacrifice fly.
The problem the Minutemen faced was giving up a run after scoring a run.
Lexington scored a run in the top of the seventh when Lingle came home on another Laible sacrifice fly. The Hornets tied in the bottom of the inning.
LHS went up 5-4 in the eighth when Nate Jacobs scored on a two-out error. Eureka scored in the bottom of the inning.
Neither team was able to score over the final two extra innings before darkness won out.
Lexington had a chance to win it in regulation but a two-out error in the seventh allowed the Hornets to stay alive.
Jacobs had three base hits and Payne added two safeties. Lingle, Tucker Lee, Jonny Meints, Henry Nettles and Tanner Tattini each singled.
Coal City 10, Dwight 0
COAL CITY — Dwight's Interstate Eight Conference opener didn't go as head coach Ryan Kemp had hoped. The Trojans were whitewashed 10-0 by host Coal City.
Carson Banks suffered the loss on the hill for the Trojans (3-4-1, 0-1). The Coalers tagged the senior right-hander for four runs in each of the first two innings. Coal City added two run in the third to complete the scoring.
The Coalers had just five hits but DTHS made three errors.
Banks had two base hits and Austin Gantzert and Jake Wardell each had a single for Dwight's safeties.


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Olympic Committee Confirms It Will Punish Athletes Who Support LGBT Rights In Russia
The International Olympic Committee has confirmed a fear that has overcome the LGBT and sports communities this month: a provision in the IOC charter that calls for the punishment of athletes who make political or religious displays will be enforced during the 2014 Winter Olympics.
When asked if the IOC planned to create a "safe space" of sorts for LGBT and allied athletes, journalists, contractors and other foreigners visiting Russia for the Olympics, officials told Gay Star News, "Regarding your suggestions, the IOC has a clear rule laid out in the Olympic Charter (Rule 50) which states that the venues of the Olympic Games are not a place for proactive political or religious demonstration."
While we're on the subject of rule 50 in the Olympic Charter (which states "no kind of demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda is permitted in any Olympic sites, venues or other areas"), the IOC has confirmed that it will indeed enforce it against displays of support for the LGBT community at the games in Sochi.
"This rule has been in place for many years and applied when necessary," the IOC told GSN. "In any case, the IOC would treat each case individually and take a sensible approach depending on what was said or done."
Gay Olympic speed skater Blake Skjellerup has already pledged, along with other athletes, to show Pride during the Opening Ceremonies by wearing a rainbow pin, a display that now may have him in trouble with Russian authorities and the Olympic Committee.
Tim, you were reading the wrong version. The latest version reads this way...
6. Any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race,
religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic
Movement, but, of course, we will pretend not to notice such discrimination if it occurs against any group we don't feel comfortable allowing in the Olympics in the first place.
Thanks for nothing, IOC. This IS Nazi Germany for our lesbian and gay sisters and brothers in Russia. They ARE being beaten and possibly killed because of their sexual orientation. This is how it all started in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. To say otherwise is at best disingenuous to our Russian brothers and sisters. Boycott!
I'm not surprised about this - Russia has gone back to its old ways when Stalin ruled and bullied people into submission - he was Hitler's friend before 'the war' without their friendship agreement in 1939 Hitler would never had dared to attack Belgium, Norway, Holland, France and the British army in France - when the American army handed over the Buchenwahlt concentration camp in 1945 to Russia they reopened it and 'locked away all those who opposed the Communist state and Stalin - many of who had barely survived the Nazi rule where once again in the same camp often guarded by the same 'guards' as they had been during the Nazi regime! Because the Communists were seen as the true victors of the Second World War 'our' press left this out of their newspapers and headlines - for this Russia got the idea it can't do no wrong and get away with anything!!! And this is the result - they don't give a **** about what others think as they believe if we don't agree with them we are fascist and Nazis! And our dear press just tries to ignore it again - I bet many so called liberal journalists have a horrible time trying to admit that this is going on in Russia! If they would be happening like for example in the US they would be all over it!!!! We should wake our press and confront them with this 'low key' reaction on those crimes against humanity --- by the way I'm not gay I'm just a fellow human being totally upset and horrified by this outrage and I do support all those who want to 'do something' to stop this! We should also focus on other former Communist East European countries where that kind of bigot madness is also going on --- make no mistake this is not new for the former Communist states it is just a return to the old ways! Only then there was a high wall that kept it hidden from us!!!
Where was your outrage when the same Neo-Nazis that are driving this anti-gay sentiment (and pushing the anti-gay laws in the Duma) have been murdering people for the colour of their skin on a daily basis for years now? That's been going on since the early to mid 2000's. Where were the Nazi Germany comparisons then? And why only mention the LGBT people being hurt?
It'd be nice if people weren't only indignant about things that affect their own particular group.
Equality for all, not just those who look like me!
It's not the barring of GLBT insignia or icons that is bothering to me (so long as this is applied equally across all groups), its the punishment of people for simply being gay or lesbian or bisexual that is troublesome. For this reason the US Olympic Committee and the IOC should stand up to Russia on this issue!
I have been on the post about boycotting. But I am mow for boycott. It scares me that you can be punished for being suspected of being gay, for show any sort of support for the LGBT Community. Those those athletes who say we should go and stand up.... They will be punished by Russia and the IOC..... It is despicable that one of the G20 countries, a country of Europe and apart of the UN Can act this way, how in modern society is this tolerated! This is why we must stand united. When other issues arise we must also come together, we must show are support to the gay communities everyone.
Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I support the cause with every fiber of my being, and I think Russia's new laws are beyond revolting, but I have to point out a couple of things. 1) The IOC has always taken a hard line on political or religious protest of ANY kind, no matter how quiet or non-aggressive. Remember that the Olympics have taken place in many, many countries where there are serious, insane human rights issues (hello China??? Did anyone boycott the Olympics two years ago?) and the IOC didn't allow any protests in any of those places, either. The idea is to put everything - and I mean everything, all cultural and religious and political differences - aside for a couple of weeks so that the world can come together, in peace, for an athletic event that showcases the best of human athletic achievement. Given the vast potential areas of protest and fighting and the potential for rapidly escalating violence, not to mention the huge worldwide platform and massive media attention, I can understand why the IOC takes a hard line on this. This is NOT LGBT discrimination. If you want to call it discrimination, then call it human rights/LGBT/Jewish/Shiite/Sunni/Chechnyan/every single minority group discrimination you can think of. 2) This is supposed to be about the athletes. Athletes who, in many cases, have sacrificed everything you can think of to be at the Games. This isn't a guilt-trip, it's just reality. This is another reason why the IOC doesn't allow any political expression - to keep the focus on the athletes. Disagree with that if you like, but it's a valid priority. I may hate Russian politics, but I'll watch the Olympics, and cheer my heart out, and live inside the hope for two short weeks that someday the world will always be this peaceful.
Okay I see your point, but what you have to realize is that we cannot simply put away the rights of LGBT people at the Olympics. While the Olympic Committee has banned protests of human rights violations in countries such as China, those were always protests for things happening in separate countries (not every country has the same problems as China). The issue of LGBT people and their rights is an international issue, is present in every country, island, and territory, and affects the whole human race, not just a single country. And during the African-American civil rights movement, black athletes made political statements at the games (raising a fist for Black Power). The LGBT civil rights movement is the civil rights movement of our generation. If people allowed such demonstrations then, they must surely allow demonstrations of signs and symbols of protest from the athletes. We cannot throw away a chance to tell more of the world of what is happening is Russia and the opposition to it from many countries and athletes. An if the Olympic committee really wants to show itself and the games as a symbol of peace in the world, then it should allow protests from the athletes towards what is happening in Russia, especially since most of the countries in the Olympic Games oppose what Russia is doing.
In one paragraph, you state, The idea is to put everything - and I mean everything, all cultural and religious and political differences - aside for a couple of weeks so that the world can come together, in peace
Treating humans beings with dignity and respect should take a back seat to you being entertained?
The whole point of the Olympics is to bring people together to celebrate the spirit of friendly competition. I don't see how that can happen by threatening the freedom and safety of another human being.
My guess is that you are White and heterosexual, and people speaking out gets in the way of your privilege. You couldn't care less about their human rights, so long as you get your fix of living vicariously through others in your imagined utopia.
Hoping accomplishes nothing. Speaking out and acting against injustice insures a better world.
"Treating humans beings with dignity and respect should take a back seat to you being entertained?"
Woah, I think you completely missed the point there. The Olympics is a place to set aside our differences, and our bigotries, and celebrate the endeavors of the atheletes competing. That's what he was saying. The Olympics is not, and should never be, a place to push a political agenda, because then the nature of the entire event becomes changed. Yes, Russia's laws are horrible and inhuman, and yes they should be fought, but the Olympics is not the place to do it.
"I don't see how that can happen by threatening the freedom and safety of another human being."
The law in Russia is against promoting a gay lifestyle in the media, so long as the IOC enforces rule 50, then no one is in danger.
"My guess is that you are White and heterosexual, and people speaking out gets in the way of your privilege. You couldn't care less about their human rights, so long as you get your fix of living vicariously through others in your imagined utopia."
Let's refrain from ad hominem attacks shall we? Especially when they are so wildly speculative.
"Hoping accomplishes nothing. Speaking out and acting against injustice insures a better world."
Again, there is a time and a place. Choose your battles and you come off as a person with a strong idea, not a psycho.
"Yes, Russia's laws are horrible and inhuman, and yes they should be fought, but the Olympics is not the place to do it."
I disagree. A lot. The Olympics is the biggest chance we have to make a statement that will be seen the world over. Nobody needs to pretend that these things aren't happening. Nobody needs to pretend that Syria is not a mess. Or that Egypt is not a mess. Or that the United States isn't an imperialist bully. Or that Russia is not a xenophobic state regressing back toward totalitarianism. Nobody has to pretend these things aren't happening during the Olympic games simply because the games lovers think the show is all sacred.. B.S. We can boycott and speak out if we please. If we want to watch, we can watch our favorite athletes and enjoy watching other competitors do amazing things and speak out against bigotry all at the same time. Nobody needs to shut up because the IOC deems the games sacred. That's just ridiculous.
I believe that your points are also valid. My concern is not so much the punishment of the athletes for being political but for the athletes that are LGBT being punished or imprisoned by the Russian authorities. So long as the IOC keeps all their athletes safe, this is the main concern.
It is very true that so many Olympics have been in places where many human rights are at issue. If you are going to boycott the Olympics now, then you had better be ready to boycott many more.
I myself am unlikely to watch the Olympics in Russia because I do not agree with Russia's laws, however, the IOC is plainly upholding a law to keep the peace among their athletes and the countries holding their games.
100% Agree with you on this one. The Olympics are a time when the world is meant to set aside its differences and come together to compete in a respectful and entertaining way; not the time to bring these types of issues to the forefront. The last thing they need would be riots and protests happening during the Olympics in a country where their population have already proven time and time again they aren't afraid to get violent on these matters. The IOC is right in their decision, first because it preserves the nature of the event - that is an elite athletic competition - and doesn't distract from entertainment and peace it brings to neighboring countries and the pride and glory these athletes have sacrificed everything to obtain. Secondly,they are right in this decision because the IOC must represent all the member countries' interest (which are inevitably going to be conflicting) and they aren't the UN or something. They never have, and never should assume the role of enforcing human rights. That's not why the Olympic committee exists. They exist to organize the largest athletic competition in the world and preserve the heritage it came from. The Olympics simply aren't the time and place to fight for human rights in the hosting country, they are the time and place to fight for medals and your country's pride and glory. It would be heinously biased (even if it would be the right thing to do by western morale standards) to tell a country they can't host the Olympics because the Olympic committee doesn't agree with their human rights practices. Unfortunately the world still has conflicting views about Human Rights...but it's not up to the Olympic Committee to create a more unified world in that sense. I think they already do enough in the fact they can even get us to put our differences aside for long enough to enjoy the Olympics.
Devil's advocate? Try "dyed in the wool". The games are about athletes, correct. Many of whom are GAY and wish to speak out as they are able to do in their own countries (such as the skater from New Zealand). They speak out to give a voice to LBGT people in countries, such as Russia, where they cannot speak for themselves. It is about letting them know that they are not alone, and they are on the right side of history. It sounds to me like you should consider rethinking this.
it isn't just the IOC or Russia, it's also the sponser's i bet they are already pressing hard on the coaches to make sure that a gay athlete doesn't walk around with a rainbow pin, or says in front of the camera ''i would like to thank my dearest husband for supporting me'' ecetra, and yeah i know for a fact that big brand names do not whant there brands to be asociated with anything gay, i know from a docu that ther is this dutch lesbian who hold lesbo beachparty's she CANNOT get brands like L'oreal, phillips or whatever to sponser her beachparty's simply because it is a lesbo beachparty.
For all those who think that we are simply poking our noses in the Russians' business: http://youtu.be/H4gyZWlZm7o
This is the CNN of the former sovyet union - everyone in that part of the world watches this news channel (I am a Russian speaking Latvian, so I know). This person is the head of Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting. And he says (to an applauding audience) that gay people "should be banned from donating blood, sperm; their hearts, in case of the automobile accident, should be buried in the ground or burned as unsuitable for the continuation of life."
I don't think this is about pink feather boas and skimpy outfits anymore. Wake the f*** up.
You are correct. If an athlete chooses to sit silent while their counterparts in other nations are beat up, then they have that right. But, many of them are gay, and should have the same right to speak on behalf of people, who cannot speak for themselves, as they do in their own countries.
It is often not the people doing the crime we remember, as much as those who sit silently and allow it. If they chose, they should have the right to wear a simple pin. What is Russia so scared of if they are proud of their stance?
I guess the question to ask of the IOC is whether they would be as equally enthusiastic about taking stern measures against Russia in the event of anyone involved in the Olympics being discriminated against or being threatened or intimidated.
The IOC does have a history of having a hard line against protests, and you can see their point when they have a flagship international event that anyone in their right might would want to use as a platform if they could. The balance has to be that they are equally firm in ensuring that the Games are a place where everyone involved, from spectators to competitors, are absolutely assured of their safety from the host country and everyone else at the event.
This clause was the direct response to the 1968 award ceremony in which Tommie Smith and John Carlos made the "Black Power salute" to protest racial discrimination in the US. Therefore, Hitler's use of the 1936 Olympics to showcase the "New Germany" is moot to this discussion. The best way to protest the current and rampant anti-gay discrimination in Russia is to boycott the games. Too bad that the US has already boycotted them the last time they were held in there.
Let's get some things straight... This is not a new Holocaust, yet. However, people have a reason to draw a comparison between pre-Holocaust Germany and current Russia. There are new laws single out one group for simply being. People connected to the government are making statement about preventing the LGBTQ community from being blood and sperm donors, and burying or burning their hearts after death because they are viable for giving life (Google it, you don't believe me). Also, I hate to break it to so many of you, but it wasn't just six million Jews (some of whom I was related to), but about another 6 million people beside who died in the Holocaust. Those people were homosexuals, gypsies, twins, people with physical and mental abnormalities, anyone Hitler and the Nazis deemed uncleaned and/or worth experimenting on.My point is Hitler started with the Jews, Putin may be starting with the LGBTQ community. Need more proof? Replace every instance of gay in the article with Jew and see how you would feel: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57588738/russian-anti-gay-bill-passes-protesters-detained/.
This isn't about forces my politics on you, or asking your church to perform a ceremony that goes against it's teachings. This is about basic human rights and dignity. Legal marriages should not be part of the church. If your country does not have a separation of church and state, fine. However, that doesn't mean you should make laws condoning the ostracizing and harming of people just for being who they are. If Russia wants to host the Olympic games, or any country does for that matter, it should keep in mind Rule 2 of the IOC charter "The goal of Olympism is to place sport at the service of the harmonious development of humankind, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity."
Seriously though, the problems in Russia go beyond hosting the Olympics there, and how well athletes and others may be treated. We are in an age where the world is becoming more and more connected. We can no longer say, We don't know what's going in in that far away place over there. Even with the information many governments had on Hitler, it was ignored because it was Germany's problem. But look what happened. Even if, Putin doesn't have world conquering plans, the people of the world need to let him and his government know that he doesn't have a right to do this, even to his own people.
Sorry - but Hitler didn't start with the Jews! When he was elected in 1933 and the Nazi opened their first 'camp' they arrested people who opposed them AND gay men! Latter he started to send Jews to camps and latter during the war he started to operate the famous gas chambers --- he did from 1933 created laws that ban Jews from any social activity and work places. They couldn't visit public parks schools of non-Jews etc. but he didn't send them first to camps! The main reason he didn't start with the Jews was that he wanted to 'sooth' people into his bigot state and international community. By sending communists to camps he didn't cause a panic as everyone was afraid of Stalin and his wish to spread the communist system. After all Russia had tried to invade Poland in the 1920s and it was only thanks to the Polish army resistance that they pulled back. By arresting gay men he didn't case a problem either as in most countries gays were send to jails anyway! But to explain why he had to arrest Jews just for being Jews was a different matter, also the American Jews had staged a boycot of German goods after Hitler started to introduce his anti-Jews laws. But with the war he could 'blame the Jews' as according to his 'politics' Jews were responsible for the war as they wanted to destroy Germany --- so he pretended they were traitors and it was his duty to remove them from society to protect the German people ---- SO THIS ATTACK ON GAYS in Russia should not be seen as a possible start to something even worse - its it the same way it started in Nazi Germany!!!!
The holocaust started gradually, with a slow but steady stripping away of human rights. That ultimately led to the murder of six million people, which is an extremity I hope is never repeated. It's the stripping away of people's rights which also takes away their humanity in the eyes of their persecutors, which makes it easy to victimize, torture, and kill them. Some of this is already happening in Russia to gay people.
This is why any time you see a group of people having their rights taken away you should shout about it, even if you don't like the group, to prevent anything like that happening ever again.
Russia is a nice country where they are fighting hard for equality and peace.
Fucking branch off and float away from Europe. Worthless fcking country with sketchy people and corrupt goverment spreading lies and hating on minorities for no reason. I do NOT understand how other peoples SEXUAL PREFERENCES are any of YOUR BUSINESS. There are NO arguments that can be put down on paper to JUSTIFY why you are allowed to hate a specific group of people that exist NATURALLY.
Just, grow up already.
Well, you're surprisingly bigoted for such progressive views on homosexuality and human rights.
Russian laws are not written by 'the Russian people' as a whole, and there's no reason to blame us for the government's incompetence and backwardness, let alone discriminate against us just because we happened to be born in that 'worthless' country. Yes, we're not as progressive as the West wants us to be, but many people try to catch up and calling us 'sketchy' won't speed the process up.
I agree that our laws are corrupt and ridiculous, sometimes brutal and discriminative. But boycotting the Olympics would NOT make anything better, only worse – it will give our government yet another opportunity to point out how the West is unjust to us and wants Russia to fail completely. And it will provoke Putin to come up with a few more similar laws and double his effort in cracking down on minorities. The Olympics could (or could not) change some things for better (and not only in Russia), so please give them a go…
You are very prejudiced and simply rude. I am Russian, and I support gay rights. My Russian friends and family are all good decent people, well educated and very liberal. And we all are very concern about everything that is happening in Russia right now, especially about those awful anti-gay laws. I am openly bisexual and have many friends in the gay community. There is no denying that there are many homophobes in Russia, and people are simply not educated well enough on this subject. But it is just one of many problems in Russia.
Russia is ruled by terrible people and it is very hard to change anything. It is easy for you to judge, if you live in a nice democratic first world country. But Russian reality is very different. And still, if you stop judging the book by its cover and make an honest attempt to look at Russia outside your TV or computer screen, you'll see that people there are exactly the same as everywhere else. Some of them are good, some of them are bad. There are criminals, corrupt politicians, oppressors, homophobes. But there are also many brilliant people, friendly and hospitable, with modern values and a hope for better future. So don't you dare saying that Russia is worthless!
Russia isn't worthless - but I feel more Russian should stand up and say they can't accept this kind of brutal behaviour - many over here feel that too many Russian don't speak out against it and that is I believe doing the damage that people start to see Russia as a 'bad country' - you should try to make clear that you don't stand for this! It would help a lot of people in your country and it would help a lot those who are now the victim of should bigot behaviour!
I cannot vouch for other people. I can only vouch for myself. I guess I can only ask international community to be more open minded and less prejudiced. Things are not that simple. Russia has a more traditional culture, and people's opinion on a sensitive subject, such as this one, are often based not on fear and hatred, but simply are a reflection of their background and of how they were brought up. For example, the so called "anti-gay law" is really a law, that prohibits gay propaganda to minors. Even though it sounds awful and gives room to misuse, the motivation behind this law is understandable. Many Russian parents are concerned that their children are too exposed to sexual content and other adult themes. They feel that the subject of homosexuality is somewhat indecent. So this law was just a way for Putin to throw them a bone.
Obviously I think that homophobia in Russia and the disregard for gay rights are a serious issue. But I feel that the conflict we got today has been somewhat blown out of proportion. The subject is so sensitive and controversial, that many people just succumb to hysteria. The Internet is full of groundless rumors, poor translations and quotes taken out of contects. It is important to keep a cool head and try too see all aspects of this subject clearly.
You should also remember that there is a huge language and cultural barrier between Russia and western countries. Russian press is heavily censored and full of Putin's propaganda. So things you read in your newspapers are not the same to what Russians know or how they see it. Also, very few Russians speak English and can get engaged in a serious conversation with international community. Which I guess makes it look like Russians just don't care.
It is also important to mention, that it is very hard to be politically active in Russia and stand up for something. People are constantly being persecuted for political reasons in Russia, even for something they wrote in their blog. Still, many Russians are active online and not afraid to speak their mind, but the most loud and influential activists get shut down fairly quickly.
You just cannot judge the whole nation because the government is rotten. Hate doesn't help. But I have to agree with some of you, the situation in Russia is really worrying, and we can't close our eyes of it. Hell do I know, but I live in Finland and I am a bit worried about what stupid they might do. There has happened a lot in Soviet Union and later Russia in let's say - fifty years, but I DO NOT DEFEND THEM BELIEVE ME, because this is as you all say, a human right matter. But this whole olympics thing really pisses me off. Olympics should be an honorful, merry, big sport event to unite people, and this is what they do of it.
I am sorry to anyone who doesn't like it but I wouldn't like it if other countries were coming into my country and spewing protests because they don't like our laws which are a reflection of our beliefs. Russia deserves to have the olympics because they won the bid just like many countries have before and many countries will in the future. I don't support Russia's anti-homosexual laws but the rest of the world shouldn't be going into their country and telling them what to do. We are making the olympics into a political issue when it isn't. The IOC is getting it right. They aren't in favour of homosexal discrimination but they realize that it isn't the job of foreigners to dictate the laws in Russia. If you don't want to be somewhere because of what the people believe in, don't go. It isn't your job to make the Russians change. The world is moving forward - we might take a couple of steps back along the way as Russia is doing but it will change. Maybe not in our lifetime, but it will. By starting protests the only thing that will result will be further dislike toward homosexuals by Russians because people can't respect their beliefs. The laws of a country are like the laws of a religion. The people believe in them and the people are not going to change if you start protesting against them. We didn't protest when the olympics were in China - they are a communist state that suppresses people's rights in a manner that is similar to the suppression of gay rights in Russia. We did the right thing in that situation by going to that country and respecting their laws while we were there even if we don't agree with them. The same should be done in Russia
Hosting the Olympics is not a right, anymore than participating is a right. It is a privilege, you must qualify.
Fundamental Principles of Olympism #6, verbatim from the IOC olympic charter:
"Any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race,
religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic
Movement." - See more at: http://instinctmagazine.com/post/olympic-committee-confirms-it-will-punish-athletes-who-support-lgbt-rights-russia#sthash.Rcpu84Ou.dpuf
Russia doesn't qualify.
If you don't like a country's cuisine, language, daily cultural aspects and such things (i.e. the "local flavor"), then it's perfectly alright to just stay clear of the place without trying to tell them to change more towards what you'd prefer. It's the polite thing to do: accept some places aren't to your liking and just live and let others live as they please.
However, when a country tramples on essential human rights, that's not just a matter of differing tastes. Russia will probably just do as they like on the matter this time around but if no one ever steps up to the plate to say that they are acting in a fascist manner, then the world is just giving them a free ticket to kick the next poor group or minority around in the future. I believe change does happen over time... but I don't believe it's automatic and that it shouldn't be kept actively moving in the right direction with protesting and speaking our mind.
You say that "We are making the Olympics into a political issue when it isn't."... But it is! Countries bid to host it fundamentally for political reasons, to display themselves to the rest of the world and to obtain international acceptance. It has to be made clear, that that acceptance comes with obligation to live up to the trust they've been granted.
You would do well to read Stephen Fry's letter to David Cameron. It's not about telling a country how to believe. It's about preventing another Hitler! Same ingredients just a different dictator and group to discriminate! Don't pass this off as light hearted or just an innocent country and it's beliefs! I'm sure Jews are grateful of the worlds intervention! Let's not repeat history by ignoring this hey?
@DUDE Straight people DO flaunt it. We need to get away from this prehistoric thinking... You see it more regularly so its normal. PAY ATTENTION next time you go out and tell me that straight people don't flaunt it. Facebook photos, statuses, PDA just to name a few. Also Straight people don't have to fight daily for something that is natural. Given freely. Yes Russia has a right to have what ever laws they want. However, the Olympics have been a common meeting ground of all nationalities to remove all barriers and compete on a level playing field. To showcase individual and national talent. This has nothing to do with showcasing talents but infringes on the basic rights we have as humans. The decisions of Russia disturbs me and the recent decision of the IOC doesn't make me feel any better. Take a giant step back in evolution. Shame. :(
Seriously if you want to know when the last gay person was lynched - check Iran for one and I'm sure you may find a few African countries too who do the same! And gay persons often fall victim to brutal attacks on most countries I'm afraid By the way I'm not a gay person but I do hate people being hurt just because someone isn't thinking normal and can't deal with people being different!!!!
July 21. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/dwayne-jones-cross-dressing-jamaican-stabbed_n_3652665.html
And that's only if you count gruesome murders by a mob as lynching. If you count any time that a group of people physically harm someone for being gay or being suspected of being gay, then the last time would statistically be when you started reading this comment.
This is absolutely appalling - LGBT rights are not an issue of politics, but one of basic fundamental human rights - something which the IOC charter claims to support. The IOC saying that the Olympics is not the place to have such protests would be fair enough if they had actually upheld the charter and ensured that host countries weren't giving people a need to protest.
Olympic Charter (Rule 50) which states that the venues of the Olympic Games are not a place for proactive political or religious demonstration."
My perspective is that this rule was designed to train people to shut up and eat their bribes. Since athletes are role models for children this Rule 50 is a powerful strategy to teach people not to practice righteous indignation if you want your "prize" in society.
Consider this: Russia and the IOC planned this whole scenario a long time ago because having athletes swallow their pride is a great propaganda lesson in substituting human dignity for obedience. Do you really think Russian politicians suddenly care about spending their budget money on policing gays? No this is all theatrics.
Athletes I say FUCK the IOC, FUCK this Olympic Rule and FUCK this inhumane law! Turn up at the Olympics, win Gold, show your pride on the podium and then let them take their piss colored prize off you. Such beautiful displays of human dignity are way more valuable than a golden prize from a bunch of fascists ass kissers! ;-)
I just don't get some of the comments on this site, saying homosexuals shouldn't put their issues out in the open all the time. "If I was homosexual, i would be embarrassed about it..."...really now? You know, the first thing that came to my mind when I read the first article about whats happening to LGBT ppl in russia was "This is kind of a new holocaust". Should Jews be embarrassed about what happened to them back in the day? Should they just shut up about it? Everything was perfectly fine back then right...right?! No. No, thats not true. And I just don't get how people fail to see that...not only narrow minded idiots, but also educated humans in political positions. Why do they fail to see whats happening in Russia? Why do they choose to close their eyes and look away instead of actually trying to help? I am really embarrassed...for everyone who just isn't ready to see these crimes against humans as what they actually are.
"This is kind of a new holocaust" homos and lesbians were treated as severe mental cases everywhere in the world, including the USA, until very very recently. Especially in communist countries where they'd sent them directly in jail. What's funny about your idiotic statement is that nazis actually promoted homosexuality, but only amongst the conquered Poles, not themselves.
"for everyone who just isn't ready to see these crimes against humans as what they actually are" still happening in the Middle East, I don't see Obama blocking off trade relations with those countries, or muslim immigrants. I don't see you bitching about millions of children being killed in abortion clinics either.
How exactly is something not promoting something unnatural against humans? How exactly are your "gay rights" 100% correct and fair to society on a whole? How exactly is forcing churches to perform gay "marriages" OK, especially when the Bible(thus their religious beliefs) condemns it?(not to mention doing the same in foreign countries) I'd call you a socialist prick but even the socialists would send you to jail. Who are you to judge millions of years of evolution and say it's wrong? You're just sick in the head, case closed.
You don't even qualify to speak to a small minority, barely yourself, since I don't even consider you mentally able jugding by your half-assed reply, and you're talking for "most people", yet I'm the douche? Yes, I'm comparing "killing" LGBT, which isn't happening, and which he/she/it bitches about, to the killing of millions of kids, every year, in America alone, which doesn't seem to bother any of your gay supremacists, of course, since besides having unnatural relations, you don't care about real problems, like the animalistic freaks you are. Wow, indeed.
Seriously, how long did it take to get to the holocaust? Every argument about being treated inhumanly gets referred to the holocaust and its completely disrespectful and shows you don't truly understand what happened. You are not being exterminated, You are not witnessing unimaginable cruelty and you are not being used and human guinea pigs. You need to grow up.
If you take a look at the run up to Hitler doing all of those sick and twisted things you will see it is very similar to what Putin is doing now. Only this time people want to be proactive and prevent it going as far as that. Or we can choose to ignore it and make out nothing is happening just like they did in the 30's n 40's! If this is the type of world you want to live in that is!
First off, more than 6 million were killed. That is only the count for Jews. Double it and you will be closer. Gays, gypsies, people with mental and/or physical disabilities were also killed by Hitler and his goons, but you rarely hear that mentioned.
Second, anyone who is a real student of history knows that this is very close to how it started in Germany in the early 1930s. Goons were allowed to destroy shops, beat up members of the Jewish communities, while the police looked on without taking action. Or if they did, it was against the party being beaten and/or stolen from for everything from false claims to making a nuisance.
Putin is a student of history and knows the best way to start is to pick a group of individuals who, in his own country, won't have too many people coming to their aid. Some because they don't like gays, some because they still have the old mindset that it is a chosen lifestyle that is a sin in their own religious or personal beliefs, some because they are justifiably afraid for their own lives and/or livelihood.
While I don't believe in the Olympics being used as a political forum, simply wearing a rainbow pin is not holding up their fists upon winning a medal. Being gay isn't a political or religious point of view. It is the same as if all blacks/asians/women were prevented from participating.
"Really, it is not. Discrimination is terrible, but exterminating SIX MILLION PEOPLE is indescribably worse. Please, your remarks do not do justice to the suffering of the victims of the holocaust and I hope you will realize this."
Actually according to your holohaux myth, jews, gays and gypsies suffered the same. Of course in real life Hitler had both jews and gays, in the tens of thousands, in the state apparatus, including the army. But jews, like you, are so greedy that they won't even share the benefits produced by the lolocaust industries with the gays and gypsies. It might also suprise you that during World War 2 the S-I-X M-I-L-L-I-ON!!!111\o/ jews you're fabulating about were just a small % of all the casualties.
Most of the borderline nazi comments here are insane. Gay people need to be as loud as possible as tgey are being raped murdered tortured and imprisoned for their private decisions if they stay quiet they remain prosecuted. Im sure as soon as being gay is not seen as much of an issue people will stop shouting it at the top of their lungs. Much like women's rights and black rights activists in the west, tge rhetoric changes.
i don't think many of you are understanding this. Its not about parading about "our sex lives" (I mean who does that anyway?) - its about putting human rights, before prejudice. Putin has ruled against gay people. Is that okay? did we think it was okay when Hitler was against Jews? just because we aren't Jewish, does a Jewish person not have the right to do Jewish things? Lets face it, the reason there is homophobia is because we think about sex. "how people have sex". Surely therefore people like Putin, are more scared that they cannot stop thinking about those two guys fucking? that's a question that I would ask of all those on here who say "look, i have no problem with gays....but". If you genuinely think we should stand silently as Putin and his mob of biggoted fools, terrorize a group of people merely because of their sexual preference then lets go backwards, lets have a partied, lets revisit slave ships, lets experiment on people with deformities. ITS WRONG. gay/straight/bi/trans. whatever, discrimination, is... a Crime. Whether you salute with pride, or cannot stop thinking about what two people do in bed, its wrong to stop people from being free.
B-b-b-but they keep pushing their gayness in my face! All the time! Everywhere I go...gay this, gay that. Grown men in pink, frilly panties....they're all up in my face pushing their gay sex down my throat. I just don't like it. It's too much for me to handle, it's too different, it's too much freedom.
This is America, but when you push your agenda down other peoples' throats( I and others can't really make a case for this argument in any reasonable way because our argument is solely based on a biased point of view stemming from fear, ignorance, anger and hatred - you know everything Jesus WASN'T about ) then you lose your right to fight for freedoms of a maligned and subjugated group of American citizens. Makes sense to me.
You are such an unbelievably ignorant tool! Not only is your mind so narrow that your perception of gay people is that of the mannerism camp! Not only does this not apply to all gay people of the world, myself included, straight men can also display this mannerism.
What about all of the heterosexual crap all over? Sex scenes in movies, magazines, reality TV? Again you say gay people shove this down your throat. You refer to the portion of the population who do overly exhibit it. This also applies to heterosexuals too and again... NOT all! Reverse your argument and read it as someone saying straight people have too many freedoms and shouldn't walk around flaunting it and should have less rights! Do you like that? Also as for wearing pink and frilly panties I think you are referring to transvestites which also is not a homosexual thing! Stright men also can be transvestites. The trouble with alot of the ignorant bigoted people in this world is like you they label gays and apply a lot of labels to us that don't apply. Yes granted some gay people might fit into these other labels but that isn't because they are gay, that's a whole different aspect of their personality.
So please do yourself a favour and open your mind and maybe you won't sound like such a dumbass in future!
"Everywhere I go...gay this, gay that. Grown men in pink, frilly panties....they're all up in my face pushing their gay sex down my throat"
Er, where the Hell are you going exactly???? Is this a real comment? Hmmm?
If so then erm...gosh! Would you care to give some examples? It sounds suspiciously like you have just made all that up in your tiny little brain to convince yourself that you are the victim of something-or-other(?) and you therefore have a right to go out fag bashing...and where will that end ni*gers, women? etc.
Pushing an agenda down somebodys throat? And thats not what the straight community has been doing since forever? Take a look around you and imagine how you would interpret the world if you were gay. Is it ok to do it aslong as a majority considers it ok, but when a minority does, it suddenly becomes offensive?
For pete's sake... Would you firstly make the connection that its the very fact that putin has segregated a populus of his country because of how they were born and now live and that he is encouraging brutality via neglegence for unsolicited reasons that is getting the world ( &lbgt folk up in arms) not specifically the olympics taking place....
However given the games are taking place has just firmly put the microscope on russias politics and is now making a very clear example of them and how the modern world deals with such issues....
NO we wont just curl up and die in a corner so you do t have to be slightly inconvienienced by it. How about you squat up on your facts, engage brain and realise that just ignoring a problem wont solve it !
I think u'd be pretty pissed if you were criminalised for somthing such as the colour of your eyes ? ( sounds daft doesnt it?)
Standing up for human rights...what about the rights of our kids to not have to see this crap everywhere they go? What about our rights as Christians to not have to cater to everything that they want? They can spew hate but the moment that someone stands up for their beliefs and their rights what happens? we are labled biggots...homophobs...and any other cruel word out there...grow up...we don't HAVE to support you...we don't HAVE to condone what you do...we don't HAVE to accept you!
What about the rights of your kids to grow up without discrimination, alienation, or abuse? That one's nice, isnt it? Well unfortunately if your kid is gay, most likely that isnt going to be the case. And I'm sure you couldnt fathom your child being gay, but thats the thinking thats going to make him or her suffer and resent your narrow-minded thinking.
And unfortunately, being Christian gives you no special rights. I think it was the Crusades that effectively proved to the modern world such an idea is abysmal.
Yea and what about gay people's kids not having to have their parents discriminated and beaten? The whole world doesn't revolve around your bible and not everyone is religious. I don't try and say you shouldn't go to church because god doesn't exist therefore don't tell be I cannot live my lifestyle and do so with the basic human rights. Understand the discrimination instead of hiding behind your ignorance and man made bible!
I agree with the Olympic Committee. Don't hate anyone but really tired of people pushing their sex life into everything they do. Haven't there always been gays in the Olympics? And haven't they always been treated like everyone else? Why does everything always have to be about homosexuals? If I were a homo I'd be embarrassed by the vanity that struts about in my name.
I am reminded of the way we all felt about sporting events in apartheid South Africa... I am straight, but I still feel that Russia is a barbaric and dangerous place that has gone too far. This isn't about gays, this IS about the freedom to be what you are, without fear of state sponsored terror.
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
...and there is something of the 'Nazi', about all of this...
Communists imprisoned gays. Besides invading other countries(like America is doing now), bombing and killing entire social classes(like America is doing now), and imposing their political system by force(like America is doing now).
Yes, there is something to do with the German's workers' party about all this... you're a moron.
First they came for the right wing, I did not speak out because I was part of the right wing(the Silver Legion of America, British Union of Fascists and many others).
Then they came out for the Christians, I did not speak out because I wasn't a Christian.
Then they came out for the conservatives and Europeans, I did not speak out because I wasn't a conservative or European.
Then they came out for me because I didn't support liberal extremist ideas of destroying everything and every value in which the real world was made(not some socialist-communist bs that couldn't even last little more than half century even in a conservative form), and there was nobody left to oppose them.
...and there is something of the "liberal trash" about all of this...

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This is a band i really like and wouldnt care if they did music everyone else hated...but Volcano was the last one that i can remember liking anything off of...ND and RE are great
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Are you that mad darkestdepth woman from various forums?
Bet it's Markos again.
My thoughts exactly
Only he could derail that hard.
Derailing a thread, me?! I registered here to post specifically about Satyricon; only to see the thread being flooded by some ad-hominem and other 'arguments' (see above).
I just find it a bit strange that you appear to have joined the NWN board, of all places, to post only about Satyricon
- I find it strange anyone would find it strange that anyone would be posting about Satyricon (and only about Satyricon, or only any other band), anywhere. This is just one public forum of many, and I seek to exchange as many opinions as possible with other listeners.
It can hardly be said of other 'contributors' here, that they're on-topic.
What are some, five-year-olds threatened by another person's identity? Why do you join a forum, if not to discuss a topic? Is this some kind of a playground where you validate yourselves? (Question is rhetoric.) Killing oneself? Breadlines? Indeed, are you mad?
Like you have failed to notice, consumer rating hardly equals intellectual value, i.e. stuffing yourself with burgers in front of TV might be inversely reciprocal to waiting on a breadline and reading/thinking... Is it better to not have a computer (which of course isn't the case with Russia, but some other countries perhaps), or to use its screen in order to stare at it while stuffing yourself mindlessly?
This metal scene has proved, on many occasions, a tool for self-validation of predominantly males, with whom something has gone terribly wrong in terms of transition from boyhood to manhood. Men who are often homophobic or/and misogynist, who feel threatened by women, and extremely insecure with other people's intellect, sexuality, etc.
And to try and show someone the door just because your metal-idol said so, is laughable beyond belief.
This said, I see very few opinions on Satyricon's new album here, let alone in-depth ones.
Perhaps someone sane still reads.
Or maybe this sums it up:
No one cares...
Which brings us to the question what are some doing here, or anywhere at all.
It's interesting to read all the contrary reviews: 'The albums is great' and ' The album is crap'. In fact, they may be both right - or wrong. What I would strongly disagree with, is the opinion the album is mature. Maturity would mean the consolidation of all aspects of a personality - exactly what we don't have in 'Satyricon' (and have in Enslaved). 'Satyricon' has it's brilliant moment (Nocturnal Flare), and some other rather good moments. However, its atmosphere of warmth and general lyricism (what would be traits of maturity) does not connect with its metal-cliched, obscure fantastical lyrics ('ultimate destroyer', 'our world crumbles', 'fire burn me' etc.) There was the argument that Satyricon are now taking post-black into their own unique direction, like Enslaved have done - and indeed, if I may add, Samael. I have to disagree on two counts: first, Satyricon were already doing that; second, god knows why they stopped. Someone aptly noted that Satyr's 'evil' vocals just don't fit this new record. Of course, we'd hate to lose those vocals; but in aforementioned Enslaved, the lyrical flows naturally into the intense and aggressive, thus building these notorious 'dynamics' which, admitedly, have been the whole point in 'Satyricon' - but which didn't work. There's no density, someone said; there are gaps in texture. The album is scattered - and, seems to me, almost schizoid. The deeply metaphysical themes of Samael, or those of Enslaved which delve into humanity's disturbed state - and presuppose the songs' depth - are absent. The harsh and the mellow emotionally beating each other, articulately unresolved, as in an adolescent love affair. 'What is this, a love song?' - someone asked. No idea.With Satyr rendering a back seat to his main 'organic' asset, the drums, both in terms of sound and in pace (stumbling throughout the record, altering various rhythms and tempos without connection), comes an entirely new conundrum - but those who know about music, have already spoken volumes on this record.
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Let's get real here. Beethoven wouldn't give this guy half of his breakfast muffin.
As to the music, its like eating vanilla ice cream with a helmet on. Next.
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Phoenix sounds to me like Nick Cave - but it's such a deplorably generic 'dark' aesthetic and melody, that it sounds like anyone you name.
It's generic like the whole album. However, what makes it particularly unlistenable to me, is that any kind of generic metal is less desperate than these goth boys. And I don't mean to undermine Cave here, or anybody; there are great examples in the genre, like some of the Gary Numan works - but Satyr is faaaaar from that depth. He will always be a metal dude - unless something changes.
Some other words describing the record come to mind, one is 'lethargic', and the other - 'clumsy'.
Both, I think, could refer to Satyr to a point.
I'm sure the man is trying to grow. I doubt it, however, he's leading an inner battle - or else the record would be exciting.
It was funny to read, some years ago, Frost describing Satyr as 'the Beethoven of our time'. Even with a smile, some of the Satyricon pieces were so majestic, I could almost agree.
But what is 'Satyricon' 2013? I feel there's hardly a melody, line, riff, that isn't stolen.
Unless this could pass for some post-modern quotation, and pseudo-intellectual assertion of the lack of real inspiration nowadays... I don't see the point. I hear Satyr the schoolboy: "I'm so proud of this, I've done it all by the numbers!".
P.S. Those lyrics...
This moon, this moon
This night, this night
This sun that symbolizes to me
What must be done
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i guess i won't even bother checking this out
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Agonistess wrote:
As to the music, its like eating vanilla ice cream with a helmet on.
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^ A very good comparison, indeed.
And something Satyr said in an interview, which further proves he has his head somewhere far away from the ground...
"I don't read comments online, because that's not something real. I mean, how many people post their opinions - 100, 1000? While there are billions of people on this planet."
- I don't suppose he implicates all these people listen to Satyricon...
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I really wonder what's the source of this gayness music
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A rare fair review of the record:
(Most other journalists seem to have been paid)
I only disagree the album should be necessarily evil, fire-spitting or whatever... Don't care about genre, just has to be inspired and most of all authentic, with good 'natural-born' songs. Seems to me Satyr found his artistic identity in 2006, and since then he's gradually been falling into some crisis.
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This thread is a bath house.
(And that new Satyricon sucks.)
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dom_ wrote:
A rare fair review of the record:
(Most other journalists seem to have been paid)
Stopped reading after "self-titled albums are almost always never a good sign."
Which was the very first sentence.
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Everything's a bath house in a scene where I've been accused of having an imperfect nose, a twitter account, and not least of attending concerts/ taking photos.
I'm still trying to figure out whether one song (Nocturnal Flare) could save this record - is it really effective, or is it also generic/ a puzzle of metal quotations. But since I'm not an avid metal listener, I can only clearly discern Iron Maiden toward the latter part of the song. I have a feeling, however, it also starts unoriginally; and it quotes some of the goth/doom bands...
Stopped reading after "self-titled albums are almost always never a good sign."
Whatever the case with self-titled albums in general, the review is quite adequate. I'm sure the reviewer has something in mind, which differs from your associations.
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This song is cool "OUR WORLD, IT RUMBLES TONIGHT"
Different, but still Satyricon.
Too Old, Too Cold!
I have tons of great Death, Black, Hardcore cds & vinyl for sale on my Discogs page:
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Like you have failed to notice, consumer rating hardly equals intellectual value...
This said, I see very few opinions on Satyricon's new album here, let alone in-depth ones.
I raised the first point on page 3, in response to your claim that there was some consensus that Now, Diabolical was the best Satyricon album. I certainly don't find any consensus with people I know that that is the case; it seems more likely to be the consumer consensus.
Now, Diabolical is Satyricon's nadir; their most artistically vapid and shallow album. The idea to have all songs at the same tempo was really interesting, and the songs all have good parts, but are spoiled by by-the-numbers chorus parts.
In response to the second part I quoted from you, the album isn't even out yet! I'd rather wait until I have a physical copy with the artwork in my hands, and appreciate it over a few listens in front of my stereo rather than downloading the compressed mp3s, playing them through laptop speakers and rushing to be the first to write something about it on the internet, under the impression that I'm some authority on the band.
What I've seen from your posting on a couple of forums seems to be some kind of strange zealot-ish obsession with Satyricon, Enslaved and Triptykon/Celtic Frost/Tom Warrior. The implied lack of awareness of much else within the metal realm doesn't inspire.
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I have been quite passionate about Satyricon (which is now fading). I have been less passionate about Enslaved (which is increasing). Any interest in Trypticon is long gone (if I may be allowed). I have been insane about The Metal God and Judas Priest all my life. I am very keen on Samael, which has eluded you. What else... thanks for following my posts. Whether they inspire you is beyond my interest, as is beyond this topic.
Indeed, I find very few metal acts inspiring today. I am not 'true'. I listen to blues, jazz, funk, ethno music, and the occasional metal.
I feel that metal music might well be dead after Priest are gone, since Halford may have defined whatever 'metal' is - and will take that to his grave.
The new Satyricon is just one proof. Extreme metal, my arse... try to sing Painkiller at 61, instead.
I feel that 'black metal' is nothing but that dark and sticky, desperate feeling of bipolar Di'anno who made Maiden famous.
To nourish the narcissism you evoke in me - I'll just share which I find the most inspiring metal records ever. The first two by Metal Church.
P.S. Samael are the most under-estimated band of today. Do give them a listen, wherever you are.
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Friday, July 14, 2006
Buckeye Memories
Until Andy.
So folks, sit back, relax and take a walk down memory lane. We especially like the soundtrack.
Oh, and make sure to email this post to a Buckeye friend or two (or 30). They'll love you for it. Really. And to our Scarlet and Gray visitors, welcome and enjoy.
39 comments:
Woody Hayes was an idiot. The only thing positive he ever did for college football is hire Bo. I'm glad he took a cheap shot at me - I just wish I could have crushed his skull with my helmet.
- July 13, 2006 9:43 AM
Bauman, your 15 minutes of fame were up decades ago. Get a job and just let go.
Of course, talking about the Fab 5 shows how far back in time Buckeye fans have to go to disparage the good name of that holiest of holy schools, but Charlie Bauman is still fair game. That makes sense in a Michigan kind of way.
Oh yea, Fuck Michigan.
- July 13, 2006 11:29 AM
My grandma threw better punches than that.
Hey Woodrow! How's it going down there? Pretty hot for ya, ehh? Suck it, you old coot.
- July 13, 2006 11:39 AM
- BaggyPantsDevil said...
What a fantastic glimpse at insanity.
And--just to irritate Buckeye fans--Woody's punch was lame! I guess his brain was just so overloaded he didn't know whether he needed to choke a bitch or slap a bitch. Bauman initially looks more confused--"Did someone just try and punch me?"--than angered.
Art Schlichter's pass was also horrible. I'll set aside my partisanship and say Woody would have been justified taking a swing at him.
Great job, Andy. Is it a coincidence that the provider of this clip is from Texas?
- July 13, 2006 12:04 PM
Wow this lame ass sucknut fan, cottoncunt, is so desperate for a comeback that he racks his brain and brings up....yep, you guessed it, the fab five. I fail to see how the fab five receiving improper benefits has any connection to this video clip of your violent, drunk as a poet on payday, rageaholic former coach trying to strike and strangle an innocent player.
We're not talking about corruption, where your football program obviously takes the cake, or buckstaches, or even basketball for that matter, where your team was most recently breaking NCAA rules and receiving punishments in the Jim O'Brien scandals and firing.
We're talking about a video where your hero punches a player in the throat and has to be pulled off of him. Great role model for all the shit-stain kids who play for OSU. Then your players still keep trying to attack the poor guy. Yes, Hayes will get bashed for this here, and rightfully so. It is THE most disgraceful moment in college football history, since you guys are all about the word THE down there. THE boring ass fight song playing in the background is great cause it really sums up that this is what your football program is all about.
If you're too ashamed to think up a decent comeback besides whining about the fab five, who we joke about as well, then don't watch the video, douchebag. You've been SMACKED!!
- July 13, 2006 12:34 PM
seriously...the one difference is that Michigan fans really don't ever defend the Fab 5...
And while we're on the topic, it wasn't the whole Fab 5 that took money, it was Chris Webber and three other players who weren't part of the Fab 5. So it doesn't make anything any better, but it's an inaccuracy that keeps coming up.
- July 13, 2006 12:41 PM
- Yost said...
So true re: Fab 5. And when they found out Webber cheated, they should have forfeited the cash, the banners, etc.
Nobody disagrees. He was a disgrace from the program and should have been banished like he was.
- July 13, 2006 1:10 PM
Thank GOD someone else has taken a swing at 'Cotton'. I'm so SICK of this rabid poster.
Where's the IQ screening on this site??
- July 13, 2006 1:16 PM
Wow Anon I think you have some very deep issues. Relax it is supposed to be a fun rivalry. Woody was a good coach who at the end obviously made a huge mistake, and disgraced himself and tOSU program. But chill the fuck out dude. don't have a coronary over a post.
- July 13, 2006 1:29 PM
Well at least one Buckeye player studied this game tape. Robert Reynolds had Woody's technique down pat! The rest of those guys are slacking.
- July 13, 2006 2:38 PM
cottoncandy and Woody: perfect examples of classless OSU trash. Go kill yourself.
- July 13, 2006 4:37 PM
Wow, feel the hate in some of these comments.
Hey, the video is funny. I can't help myself, but I always laugh at it, as I do the one a few years earlier when Woody went after the ABC cameraman.
That being said, I don't think Woody is burning in hell for this or (in a world that includes such figures as Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson) is the most disgraceful person in college football history, as a couple here have mentioned.
While his "anger-management" issues have come to define the man in the national consciousness, that's not the total story. He was one of the first B10 coaches to give African American kids from the deep South scholarships when their home state schools were off-limits. When he was fired, he was the lowest paid coach in the B10, having passed on years worth of raises to his assistant coaches. He ran a clean program, and even those Ohio State professors who had a problem with big time college athletics respected and liked Woody personally. Before he died, he left instructions for his friends and players to not do anything in his name in the athletic department but rather do something for academics, so they've endowed a chair in the political science department in his name.
As for that weak punch, he was an old man. He was also a man who in his youth commanded a U-Boat destroyer in the North Atlantic. That's something that I imagine that few who post on a college football blog (myself included) could match. None of this excuses or mitigates Woody's transgressions, but it does present a more complete picture of the man.
Out of curiosity, I wonder if any of the authors of the more rabid, hateful comments about Woody would care to repeat them to Bo's face. They just might get the chance to witness another B10 coaching legend taking a shot at a young punk.
- July 13, 2006 5:20 PM
I don't think that "the punch" was the most classless act Woody performed - the attempt to score two points at the end of the 1968 Michigan - Ohio State game wins that contest.
Ahead by 50-14, in Bump Elliot's ( true gentleman) last game at Michigan, Woody showed his real sense of "sportsmanship" by calling time out and tried to get two points instead of one (of course that came back to haunt him in 1969 when "the greatest college football team of all times" tasted bitter defeat in Ann Arbor.
I was at both of those games, and still get ill thinking about 1968, and then get better remembering 1969!
- July 13, 2006 5:47 PM
Just shows how exciting scUM football is... the only thing you guys ever talk about on this site is anti ohio state propaganda. Whatever makes you feel better about your shitty year last season, I guess.
- July 13, 2006 6:01 PM
- Yost said...
And thanks for reading Anon. Glad you enjoy it.
- July 13, 2006 6:37 PM
- DevilGrad said...
Poor Anon 3:01 has been stuck reading the MZone ever since they put filters on the computers in the Berea Public Library.
- July 13, 2006 7:26 PM
- Yost said...
I scratch my head reading comments from all these Buck fans coming on a Michigan site and being so shocked to find anti-Tosu stuff. "Don't you have anything better to put up?"
In July? On a college football blog? Uh...no.
- July 13, 2006 7:30 PM
- DevilGrad said...
Well, I wasn't figuring on you guys having any World Cup highlights, if that's what you mean.
- July 13, 2006 7:52 PM
Yost, I scratch my head at you scratching your head. You put up anti OSU stuff and expect it to just get your own chuckles and giggles, without any Buckeye backlash? Stop smelling your own farts, they're killing your brain cells.
And for all you thoughtfully challenged Michigan goofs, Yost once criticized me for daring to mention the fab 5 because it was 10 years old, but everytime the ol' comedy isn't flowing, its Charlie Bauman time.
Do you get it? How he criticizes someone for something being to old to talk about and then the next day he brings up something older? Do you see how it is hypocritical? Do you . . . nevermind.
- July 13, 2006 8:00 PM
Anon 9:34, why did you stay anonymous? That was a fantastic rant and I would've been proud to take credit for it.
- July 13, 2006 8:28 PM
- Yost said...
What you never seem to understand about the Fab 5 is...we don't care. M fans think they're a disgrace. After the embarrassment and bs of what they did, you don't see shrines to Chris Webber on the U-M. Has anybody on this site ever once come to their defense?
But Woody in Columbus? He's still thought of as a god even though he proved himself to be much less than that. And it's all about excuses when his infamous ending is brought up.
Finally, it the clip was put up b/c, until Andy posted it, it didn't exist on its on anywhere to our knowledge on the Internet. And like it or not, it's one of the most "famous" moments in college football.
Deal with it.
- July 13, 2006 8:29 PM
- clemsontiger said...
Here's what I find so intriguing about the whole incident. 1st- Charlie Bauman was a no-name sophomore linebacker at the time. Saw time in maybe 10-20 plays a game. 2nd-The interception was his first and only interception in his career at Clemson. 3rd-Got Danny Ford his first win at Clemson, since it was his first game there after Charlie Pell resigned to take the U of Florida job. By the way, thanks Charlie. If you had not quit we wouldn't have a National Championship on our resume. 4th and the best of all. Charlie (or Charles now) Bauman is a Coldwell Banker Real Estate Agent in the greater Cincinatti, Ohio area. Funny how things happen. Although the meltdown by Woodrow was pretty funny does it beat the meltdown by John Chaney going after John Calipari and screaming, "I'll kill ya!", on national television during an interview? Maybe, maybe not. Love the blog here guys. I grew up in the U.P. and went to college at Clemson but I still pull for U of M unless they're playing the Tigers. Great stuff.
- July 13, 2006 10:04 PM
- Papa said...
Cool shot. The 2 stories about Woody that come to mind besides the Bauman shot are 1) when he was on a recruiting trip with Schembechler in Michigan his car was neasrly out of gas. He waited until he got out of Michigan and into Ohio, because he did not want to buy gas in Michigan; and 2) the recruting of Jack Tatum. Assassin had been the BMOC at his high school and was being shown the love by all the schools. One evening he came in, and his mother was in her kitchen with someone eating pie and drinking coffee. When he walked in, Woody stood up and introduced himself as Coach Hayes. He then turned to Mrs. Tatum, commented on how good the pie was, and thanked her for her time. Jack knew at that instant that his mother had decided he was going to tOSU.
- July 14, 2006 6:17 AM
could only add one other comment to ORD_Buckeye's (which where put better than i would've ever been able too!)
Woody had heart, as well as Bo.
Carr, well, you decide.
- July 14, 2006 8:22 AM
Ah... the joys of going 1-4 in the last 5. Can't beat 'em on the field, so lets rehash 1978.
- July 16, 2006 12:19 AM
Hey Michigan fans or bloggers:
Go ahead and show your comments about Woody to Bo. He'll kill you at the spot. Bo was close to Woody. Why do you think that he retired rather than passing Woody's record of 238 wins?
Proud of yourself, aint it? Typical Michigan fans.
Go Buckeyes!!
- July 16, 2006 1:27 PM
Great piece of writing, Anon 10:27. Extremely coherent and well thought out. At no point did you make no sense or misrepresent a phrase. Typical inbred, retarded OSU fan.
- July 16, 2006 2:10 PM
"At no point did you make no sense..."
So, the previous poster made sense thoughout? Great piece of writing yourself, inbred retard.
Go Bucks!
- July 19, 2006 9:34 PM
It's great to actually see this video. But in all reality let's look at it this way. I have a MSU fan friend of mine that always brings up the Bauman incident whenever I talk about how we dominate them. The only reasonable reply is this. If you were MSU or U-M's athletic director and you knew Woody would have this melt down 20 years into his career with all the national titles and Big-10 champs. If you knew this and still didn't sell your soul to sign him you wouldn't be worth the money the university pays you. Bo never won a national title.
- July 23, 2006 10:39 AM
Patton slapped a soldier, but he still kicked the Nazi's ass. I guess you want to tear down all his statues as well?
- July 23, 2006 10:41 AM
- breaston15 said...
Ok you know how most people on here said that Bo would defend Woody?? Well why is that in old clips of way way past Woody would say things like I dont like him, dont like the son of a bitch, never did...etc I could go on.
- September 08, 2006 3:49 PM
Congratz Wolverines.
You are now the title-holders of the worst smack talkers ever! You guys don't know how to talk shit because you know you're going to lose Saturday in agony.
See you Saturday after the game people, to gloat.
- November 17, 2006 9:42 AM
Hey guys,
Thanks for posting this video. I've been wanting to see the complete play for years. I am an OSU fan, but still love to see this video. It seems to have become part of the legend that is "Woody Hayes." He has become one of many icons of college football. No matter whether you like or despise the man, know that he is not adequately represented by just viewing this video. Rob Lytle, the great running back at UM, would agree with that. Even though Lytle went to UM despite Woody recruiting him heavily, Woody still sent him notes of encouragement throughout his NFL career. He also called the new coach of the Broncos, "Dan Reeves" and told them he needed to feature Lytle because, "He would be crazy if he didn't." The point being, we all make mistakes, but those mistakes do not define who we are. I found myself arguing with a coworker from the West coast about the greatest rivalry in college football. At least everyone on this site can agree on one thing. THIS IS THE GREATEST RIVALRY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL! Good luck, in the game today!
- November 18, 2006 1:29 PM
Bo just died you faggot, so what if I told you he sucked ass and should of died a long time ago?
But I wont say that directly because I have fucking respect unlike your bitch ass and im sure you're at home crying about how Michigans #1 defense got fuckin penetrated today.
Oh yea, I thought you cocky ass bitches said youd win? Well, I hate lyers so now I hate you.
- November 18, 2006 8:19 PM
It's pathetic to remind anyone claiming Meatchicken was set back by the field conditions that Ohio State played on the same field, but apparently it needs to be done.
On behalf of all Ohio State fans, I apologize for not knowing Meatchicken needed such pristine conditions to put on an adequate performance.
What will be next year's excuse? Meatchicken ran out of Massengil in the locker room?
- November 19, 2006 10:37 AM
Whats the same about Michigan and Bo?
They both got buried Saterday
- November 19, 2006 12:05 PM
Since you're anonymous...the bo buried comment was the most asinine thing i've ever seen someone say. Thanks for embarrasing Buckeye fans everywhere by being a classless fuck.
Best wishes to the Michigan family after the loss of such a legend, who helped make yesterday's game and our rivalry possible.
Congratulations on a well played game, can't wait til next year!!!!!
Go Bucks!
- November 19, 2006 2:20 PM
I stumbled on this blog while reading on the internet about the relative good behavior of the OSU fans in Columbus this past weekend.
To Mr. Bauman I would a say that for someone who's past was so closely tied to Woody Hayes' undoing, I would think you would know more about the man that you called an idiot than what you demonstrated.
The countless good deeds that Woody did will always be overshadowed by his national media antics, which he had to live with. No one in their right mind would think that anyone who supports or cheers for any college football team would have condoned Woody's sideline rage antics. But I did condone the countless hours he spent with children in the hospitals with his players. I did condone the trips to Vietnam to support our troops. I did condone the nearly 90% graduation rate of his OSU players. I did condone his unyeilding passion for education.
To both UM supporters and OSU fans, blogging and firing away at each other, get over whose program has more transgressions or embarrassments to write about. In fact, some of the terms, descriptions and fashion in which you attack each other gives one the thought that either you did not attend either university or wasted your parents money by catching some extra shut eye at class after the previous night's party. Each school is a fine institution of learning, and each of have had their share of student athletes that as young adults have made mistakes. Each university also has their student athletes which have "made their school proud".
As for Woody and Bo, the key figures in the "ten year war" that elevated the Michigan-OSU rivalry to the elite status it enjoys in college sports, they both hated to lose. Did I say that strongly enough? They both despised losing. Whether it was Woody referring to "that team up north" or Bo describing the "city he escpaed from" lets keep in mind that the first person to Bo's house after his 1970's heart attack was Woody and that the first person to Woody's house after he was dismissed, outside of his players, was Bo. On top of their passion to win, their acts of care and graciousness should inspire us.
To Bo's family, friends, players and fans, as an OSU fan, we offer our love and support upon the passing of this great football coach, educator, and man.
All of this said I choose to emmulate Woody and Bo going forward. Men of character and passion for excellence. As such, for Bo today, I say "Let's go Blue".
But, after the services and words for Bo have been spoken and done, I will pull on my Scarlet and Gray and cheer for the Buckeyes to beat "that team from up north", whether they get a rematch in the desert or whether it be in 361 days in Ann Arbor at "THE GAME".
- November 21, 2006 1:56 PM
Look.. to the point Ohio State fan are just noted as being ignorant minds full of 2.1 grade point average mush!
I have never seen such a classless group of idiots in college sports year in and year out.
go burn a couch you Olentangy river suckers! And I'm not even from Michigan!
- December 22, 2006 2:10 AM