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Skot Elektron, 4 Jan 2007 @ 8:49am
duhcan we say digital paper? seen it... but it was in finland in a safe.. ooo sue me
OffBeatMammal (profile), 4 Jan 2007 @ 9:16am
Is digitisation the answer?Even if we don't get to a technological answer with ePaper and eInk for a while yet does this validate the effort that Google and others are putting into digitising these works? If the libraries need to take the books out of the front-line can they at least consider warehousing and loaning via post (Netflix) consolidating into one uber-library, and/or make the books available as (timed, self destructing) digital downloads (supporting many formats.... don't make me buy an eReader for one book).
Personally I love the feel of a paper book and the physical experience of reading it, fliping back and forth and hunting for an item in a reference book and I can't see a digital solution replicating that experience... but if it's a choice between never being able to read that book or the digital experience... I'll go digital over destruction any day
misanthropic humanist, 4 Jan 2007 @ 9:40am
all the books on a thumbdriveThe situation at Fairfax is happening around the Western world. In the UK we are closing public libraries faster than ever. It's not just a lack of demand, although it is true people are reading less, adult literacy is at an all time low, education is no longer valued. There are other factors. Urban real estate has gone through the roof in the very areas where libraries are most needed. They can no longer afford the space to keep books which are rarely accessed. Just a few blocks from me the public library has been knocked down and the plot sold to developers to build cheap housing for immigrants.
There are rather few full-time employed librarians outside acedemia. Local public libraries traditionally rely on volunteers, usually retired or elderly bookworms. Economics mean those people are either working at Walmart into their 60's and 70's or retiring abroad to more pleasant and easier countries. The entire community volunteer sector is in decline, so libraries are nothing special.
This does leave me with a Lisa Simpson moment, shaking my head at ignorant shallowness and the decline of Western civillisation. But then I think a more optimistic view is to reinterpret the role of libraries. Perhaps it's time to fully digitise our history. Organisations like archive.org and companies like Google are leading the way here. The information is not being "lost", it's safer than ever, it is just not freely accesible any longer. The bar has moved up, we assume even the poorest have access to a computer and internet these days. But that is not so. We are definitely creating an intellectual underclass who do not have the means of access, albeit a small disadvantaged group.
But there are other rotten forces working against accesibility. The usual suspects, the publishers, the copyright cartels and IP mafia associations are all out to restrict information flow and accesibility.
We recently built the biggest new library in Europe at Kings Cross when the British Library moved. However this organisation is now effectively privatised and is no longer open to the general public such that anyone can walk in and read. The new self appointed gatekeepers of knowledge actually seem to be going out of their way to make access to printed heritage difficult for ordinary folk and the preserve of the chosen few who can pay.
However, as a technologist I think this is moot. We all know that information wants to be free, it tends towards that state almost as entropy does, it is uncontainable. Pretty soon we will have data storage devices capable of storing every book ever printed on a thumbnail. The actual buildings and institutions that have served us in the past will cease to be relevant. One day someone will be able to give you a little silver disk labled "books" - meaning ALL the books.
The only issue then is whether people really care enough to read them in an age where hedonistic experience and money trump knowledge.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:01am
Re: all the books on a thumbdriveThanks for that analogy to entropy. Its a good one.
I'm not worried about an intellectual underclass. Getting online will become cheaper and cheaper until the only people complaining about being left behind are those who want to be left behind, and complain about it also. This did make me think of the role libraries have taken in providing public internet access.. government organizations assume you can read, and if you can't, then they assume you are disabled or feeble and can get someone else to help you. There are certain baseline assumptions that enable more efficiency in the process, and you can always leave a few humans to fill the gaps. Why shouldnt we assume that everyone can access government websites and just shut down the offices altogether? As an interim measure lets just go ahead and build public computer terminal stations (private, enclosed, and secure. these are the new public forum and people need to be safe and comfortable in them). Do you have any idea how much money this would save? We could make it so theres no excuse whatsoever for being unable to conduct your mundane affairs online.
Unknowledgeable Geek, 4 Jan 2007 @ 9:42amWhat is the purpose of Microfish. I know I have used them in the library. I believe they were for media, i.e. newspapers, magazines, and the like. Now, why not just use these things for books as well. And if not microfirsh, some more current technology. I shouldn't be too difficult.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:03am
Re:Microfiche is just the very old form of what ought to all be done digitally nowadays. Itll be mostly gone eventually.
In addition to magazines and such, microfiche also contains archives of one-off stuff that might be super rare otherwise. This you want to keep around as it would be hard to justify the cost of digitizing a bunch of stuff that probably no one will ever need.
The Man, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:02am
This is where they don't understand the marketLibraries are dead. Forget your school boy memories of getting research books for your papers due at school. The Internet has killed that. No one is going to take a trip to the bad part of town to visit a libary to get a research book when there are library alternatives on the Net. Libraries are a waste of tax dollars. Lets move on. Oh yeah, and for the bleeding hearts about to respond. The small number of poor people who use the library does not justify the expense. Schools offer alternatives for students who need books and internet access. Employment offices provide services for the poor looking for work. We need to start shutting down these social services that don't work. Today the library, tommorow welfare!
The Man, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:05am
Post 5That is one of the best ideas I have ever heard. Provide Kiosks instead of government agency offices. That would save billions in tax dollars.
Anonymous Coward for President!!!!!!
(that one anyway, the other Anonymous Cowards suck)
Bindle Punk, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:07am
Seems like there's an obvious and simple solutionI used to work for a Los Angeles Public Library and they have a pretty efficient transfer system in place. I imagine it's like that for most metropolitan library departments. I think the limited shelf space problem mainly arises due to the fact that a public library has to function as both a storehouse and a public facility. A large amount of storage space is actually used up by providing comfortable facilities (things like tables, computer desks, chairs, meeting rooms, ect... ) for the patrons of any given library.
The solution? Create a large warehouse style centralized storage facility for books that no longer achieve popular rotation status but still warrant archival due to cultural or intellectual significance. That way shelf space in the public facilities could be freed for more popular titles while still making "important" titles easily accessible through the transfer system.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:35am
Re: Seems like there's an obvious and simple solutWell, as the role of a library becomes more esoteric (shifts more towards preserving and promoting our intellectual heritage and less about making cheap pop fiction available) then there is less need to have anything but one centralized library with everything stuffed in it.
Of course, one would hope that we could then turn around and improve this role to the point where it is easier for more people to engage in the esoteric. At that point you would want to have the sophisticated distribution of esoteric materials to branch locations.
But while we are in the intermediate, more attainable phase of removing the role of free books to the masses, we can rethink even the esoteric role: why do we need a university and a public library in the same city, for example?
And for that matter, if there is a cherished tradition of buying a book and lending it to anyone who needs it, why in god's name can't we just scan the books and put them online for anyone who needs it? Because it cuts down on sales because people who might buy it will be able to get it for free? But can't they do that with a library? Well.. there must be a difference. Lets see.. ah yes, the library is INCONVENIENT (for certain classes of literature which is available cheaply for sale) and only people who need the book so badly to overcome the hurdles of inconvenience will bother to get it that way--and the publishers dont mind those people getting to enjoy it for free. Connect the dots: publishers don't give a crap about free flow of information and permit it only slightly constrained to a library where it is prevented from harming their bottom line.
If we as a society value this information's public accessibility, then why do we play games with the publishers? Those with the means or the will can get around the hassle. Those without can't--and those are the ones we are trying to lift up.
If we have public libraries and are treating them as enclaves of free information, then I'm paying taxes for it and by gum, I am not going to be told I have to go to the library just to enjoy it. This is 2007. I pay my taxes and someone needs to figure out a way to get the publishers their cut. Perhaps a fee per page read online paid by the library out of the public budget. Work something out --I leave that as an exercise to another anonymouse coward.
musterion, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:41am
Re: Seems like there's an obvious and simple solutThisis interlibrary loan in the small, or intralibrary loan. Here in Columbus OH, it is what is done already. You can reserve a book and have it delivered to your local branch from any other branch.
What worries me in the headlong rush to digitization is then how do you maintain the integrity of a work? I can see the day when after all is digitized, you have legions of Winston Smiths altering the digital records to match what the current government wants. You wouldn't even need to send in Sandy Berger to steal the offending parts of the archive.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:51am
Re: Re: Seems like there's an obvious and simple sHow do we know which printed version of a classic work is intact? Someone could publish a bible with a subtle change and maybe nobody would ever know. Or maybe someone would happen to notice. Whats the difference digitally?
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:56am
Re: Re: Re: Seems like there's an obvious and simpI should add that it is possible to 'hash' a piece of data, creating a unique (yet small) signature and ensuring that it is impossible to subtly change the content. A subtle change would yield an entirely different hash, making the change readily observable. Even if the change was one character, the hash would be entirely different.
Keep in mind that even while digital technologies make new trickery and fraud even easier, it necessarily comes with new strategies for combating it.
Ohio, 9 Feb 2007 @ 8:09am
Re: Seems like there's an obvious and simple solutIf we put all the classics in the basement noone will ever know we have them and noone will check them out....
PhysicsGuy, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:32am
Re: all the books on a thumbdriveThe only issue then is whether people really care enough to read them in an age where hedonistic experience and money trump knowledge.
you say this as though there was an age where knowledge actually took mainstream priority. face the facts, it hasn't and unfortunately never will.
Literanista, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:54am
Espresso Machine?I blogged here: http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2006/12/27/espresso-machine-now-serving-more-than-just-coffee/ about a recent innovative vending machine coming soon to a library near you that will allow one to access a virtual library of thousands of titles and dispense books on demand. Think of how cool the libraries of the future will be. For those who claim that libraries are a waste of tax money, I completely disagree. I know that for me the library was a refuge and for a poor kid from the Bronx, who down the line grew up to be rapper, KRS-One, it was a place where as a homeless youngster he called home.
Overcast, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:56amJust another veiled attempt to make everything 'politically correct' by the whacko Left wingers running the libraries.
Who cares I guess, History is what the 'elite' of today want it to be anyway, why get it confused with real facts?
Kinda like in 1984 where owning real paper was illegal... hehe, oh the Irony.
Overcast, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:59amJust a few blocks from me the public library has been knocked down and the plot sold to developers to build cheap housing for immigrants.
That indeed sounds so 'Orwellian'. Crazy....
And I bet all the immigrants are quite the militant types, aye?
bendodge, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:11am
What!?I love libraries! It is so enjoyable to check out real books, esp and old childhood favorite. It would be a terrible loss to our culture.
And paper/parchment lasts a lot longer than magnetic storage. What are 2,000 year old manuscripts made of? I've never opened a book from my father's library and found that it degraded and won't boot! (Although some cheap acid-paper ones have had the edges dissolve.)
SailorAlphaCentauri, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:14am
How encouraging...As a recent library school graduate, hearing people call for the end of libraries because they're dead is a little disheartening. I'm not saying that there's no truth in The Man's sentiments, but I'm also not seeing a decline in library usage in the part of the country I'm in. People come to the library to access databases & check out non-book materials (i.e. DVDs), and more libraries are offering video game nights to make the library more relevent to teenagers [and I've gotten into some interesting competition with young people vying for the same manga I want to read]. People in the library community lamented stocking up on videos because they didn't like the idea of becoming a free Blockbuster, but it's a way of meeting the challenge of providing what people want without completely skuttling everything else the library provides.
While books are being digitized for preservation and theoretical mass-consumption (but with strings attached to books still under copyright), the library still has relevence for those who seek it out. I've read a number of non-library articles where people were astonished by how the librarians were actually helpful in finding materials for their research and other activites (because they believed that a librarian's role was to keep people quiet all day) so I do not see the library as being a completely dead issue...yet.
While I do think the idea of a book warehouse is a good one, I'm not completely enthused by the idea simply because serindipidous search results would be much less likely to occur (and I'll be the first one to admit that I would've been screwed on an assignment if not for a sernidipidous find which housed the answer I sought for a school assignment). I like the concept simply because it's a workable compromise which would still make classic literature available to those who want it without using up space at every library in town [by the way, the place where I'm finishing up an internship is actually working on doing something like this for the thousands of libraries in its consortium].
People have been calling for the end of libraries since the dawn of the World Wide Web and a number of companies have gotten rid of their librarians under the belief that everything they needed was on the Internet (but a recent article shows that some law firms have reversed their thinking when they realized that librarians saved their employees tons of time by doing the footwork for them), but I don't see the library as being an irrelevant tax-waster. I think we still need the libraries to be a place that houses our history in some form, lest we forget that not all digitized items are still readable today (unless all of you have old floppy-disk drives and tape readers). Technology is constantly changing, so I hope that those who are on the the tech end of things are planning on migrating materials to the next new devices so that our entire history isn't lost to the ages.
Do I have a point to all this? Probably not, but I think that people involved with libraries need to think carefully about where they want libraries to be 5-10 years down the road...and how to maintain (or obtain, depending on your point of view) relevence in our quickly digitizing world. We'll have to see how things evolve with people reading less (but turning to audiobooks, ebooks, & the Internet) to see where libraries are headed.
Last three points: 1) I can't spell, so please don't give me grief on it, 2) I was a young person who was frequently thrown out of the library for doing things that people can do freely today, so it's rather ironic that I ended up getting a library degree when few libraries could tolerate my presence [My focus was on computers & database/web design in library school], and 3) I'm unfortuantly a product of my generation in that I had a hard time keeping my focus on what I was trying to say, so I worry my short-attention span may have muddled what I wanted to say.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:26am
Re: How encouraging...Dont disclaim your argument, it was good and solid.
Tyshaun, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:22am
The library culture...I don't think anyone can debate that modern technology and the internet can easily take over as the repository of literature and other items previously held in libraries. However, growing up my local libary served a variety of other purposes (primarily because it serviced a very poor population). The library did things like:
1. Gave access to computers, copy machines, and other "office" type things
2. Acted as a community hub for distribution of local information
3. Acted as a meeting center for groups, especially literacy tutoring and child reading initiatives
4. Acted as an after school study hall for kids
In short, it was more than just a place where people came to get books. Even with the increased use of the internet, the local library is still how a good number of people in my town access the internet as it's the only place non-school age people can get cheap (free) web access. Although the cost of "getting online" is becoming less and less, the cost is still out of reach for a lot many people (or isn't a priority when compared to other items). Where I live the median income is $32,000 (the national average is $44,000) and I don't see a lot of people having the means to afford a computer and an internet connection.
So yeah, we can get rid of libraries, but there are still places where libraries are the primary link to information and culture that is easily accessible by everyone. Besides, I still like to go the library every now and again to sit back, read a book, and escape my phone(s), e-mail, and other such modern convienences.
A librarian, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:25am
The good news...The good news for all the folks commenting on this thread is that real, dedicated, technologically savvy, professional, non-whacko, educated librarians who understand and take into consideration a multitude of social and environmental factors, face the problems raised by both the article and throughout this discussion, every single day they come to work.
"Libraries," as we have all come to know them throughout our lifetimes, are changing. Librarians and the community groups (in the states, often called "Friends of the Library") who help manage and maintain them, are not operating in a bubble. Even in the public sector, savvy librarians have been using, programming and living with computers as long as most computer scientists, bringing new tools to users in the forum of a "university of the people" for many, many years, and will continue to do so whether society seems to value the work they do or not.
Fortune 500, Academia, government, Second Life, the blogosphere, community groups, local schools, after school programs, local theater... librarians can be found in all of these places and wherever they are, they are thinking and planning for the future of information access and constantly straddling the line between print archive and online resource.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:28am
Re: The good news...Thanks for the reminder that librarians have been very involved in computing since the beginning! It made me recall the first cdrom I can ever remember seeing--containing a digital catalog at a library.
misanthropic humanist, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:32am
Re:Great idea about the kiosks AC#5, someone will hit me for this, but guess who tried it and it worked - the French (minitel system).
PhysicsGuy - sorry Lisa Simpson is still speaking there. There was never a golden age of knowledge, not even through my fuddy old rose tinted spectacles. But I do think there is a new wave of anti-intellectualism and anti-science that disturbs me. These things come and go.
Overcast - those immigrants are rough swarthy types yes, there goes the neighborhood! But y'know, if I was one of them and homeless I'd burn the damn books to keep warm. Don't extrapolate a statement of FACT into a prejorative opinion, in psychology we call that projection, and it exposes what YOU really think ;) Unfortunately libraries being converted to cheap housing is the economic reality of my country and it would serve nobody to paint it otherwise.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:41amDoesn't anyone else see the $$$ here? Once all the libraries close.. some brave soldier can step off the curb and open a private library and charge pennies to the dollar for rentals -
It's the same principle as company phone systems. How many tv/radio ads have you heard lately that use "Talk to a REAL person" as a selling point? Reverting to older methods seems to sell.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 11:55amwhat makes classical books good? i don't get it. what makes great expations better than the davinci code? what makes a christmas carol better than harry potter?
what makes motzard better than brittany spears?
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 4:02pm
Re: what makes a classic work of art better?Wait 200 years and see if people are still talking about. The definition of classic is that we still talk about it, and the assumption is that it is good. Sometimes I think that more precisely, it is the best representative of an era and we hope to use those works to keep the era in memory, and to grow a bit wiser by sampling an older, different way of thinking. Given this, the classics are unique in their value and really can't even be compared in quality to a new work. Once a form of expression hits a certain level of refinement, I dont think it necessarily ever improves on an absolute level. It rolls through its many phases and variations on theme and shows different faces and in the end all you can do is point to an older work and say 'this is worthy of praise' and get everyone to agree for the sake of having something in common to praise and know and remember.
Anonymous Coward, 4 Jan 2007 @ 7:18pm
Re:what makes classical books good? i don't get it. what makes great expations better than the davinci code? what makes a christmas carol better than harry potter?
what makes motzard better than brittany spears?
If you really want to know, why not try reading them?
Although, judging from your spelling, you're probably rather young and a fairly typical product of the American public education system. So I imagine you don't care much for reading, and wouldn't enjoy them if you did. Maybe you just need another 15 to 25 years of growing up.
Harry Potter is pretty damn good, though.
Ashwin Mudigonda, 4 Jan 2007 @ 12:09pmEnter e-Ink and the e-Reader. There is no other solution.
Ammina, 4 Jan 2007 @ 12:21pm
Library Situation in Los AngelesIn the city of Los Angeles, I continually see romance novels (in both English and Spanish) being discarded at libraries by the thousands, covers brand new, the books having never been checked out. Your tax dollars are going right into the dumpster. Whoever makes the book buying decisions for the Los Angeles City Library system has no clue about what kind of books the people in their local communities want to read.
Given the large number (thousands) of romance novels that are thrown unread into the dumpster in the black library districts, that community clearly doesn't read romance novels. Why then are multiple copies of these books purchased for those libraries? Maybe someone should ask the people in every library district what they like to read, or find out what would bring them into the library.
Lawrence Salberg, 4 Jan 2007 @ 12:34pmIn the library's defense, when I want to read a classic, I always buy it. Why? First, I'm no genius and pouring through a Sherlock Holmes book is likely to last longer than three weeks. I've been trying to read Moby Dick for about a year now.
On the other side of the coin, however, it does seem a shame that once again, libraries are looking to become hippy-chick cafe's, with wireless access, computers, and DVD's, rather than preserving much of anything. I know folks won't agree with this, but this is one reason, among many, that we need a return to private libraries in this country. Public libraries will, at some level, always appeal to the lowest common denominator in our society. Here in Brevard County, they have no problem allowing vagrants and bums to sleep in the library (as long as a newspaper covers them up mostly). What kind of place are libraries becoming for children? I see the huge Bill Gates posters that say "Read!". Why doesn't he and others start some private libraries. I'd happily pay $50/year to be a private member of a library - with classics that weren't in paperback. And with some nice areas to actually study or read that weren't surrounded by bums and kids updating their MySpace profiles online.
Ammina, 4 Jan 2007 @ 5:47pm
Re: Private LibrariesWhy doesn't he and others start some private libraries. I'd happily pay $50/year to be a private member of a library - with classics that weren't in paperback. And with some nice areas to actually study or read that weren't surrounded by bums and kids updating their MySpace profiles online.
I think a private library is an excellent idea, but it would never fly here in L.A. The downtown LA library is a sewer because of all the homeless people who drag their bedrolls and all their bags and they sleep at the tables.
I don't mind the kids. I would rather see them at the library than out on the streets.
Sarojin, 4 Jan 2007 @ 12:36pm
Does everyone have money for books? NoA lot of posts here about just going out and buying a used copy instead of using the library, or just making everything available digitally.
Doesn't one need some money and/or a computer (or book reader) to utilize this? I thought libraries were there as a public service, making books available for people who do not have the resources to access them in another way, such as buying them.
If you don't have the cash, it's not a simple matter of just finding a used copy online because it's "easier" than dealing with the library. It's not easier, it's impossible.
Libraries should not be accommodating the affluent and lazy, but those without the means to access books and other resources available (such as learning computer games for kids and access to computers to use them).
Tyshaun, 4 Jan 2007 @ 1:06pm
Re: Does everyone have money for books? No
A lot of posts here about just going out and buying a used copy instead of using the library, or just making everything available digitally.
Doesn't one need some money and/or a computer (or book reader) to utilize this? I thought libraries were there as a public service, making books available for people who do not have the resources to access them in another way, such as buying them.
If you don't have the cash, it's not a simple matter of just finding a used copy online because it's "easier" than dealing with the library. It's not easier, it's impossible.
Libraries should not be accommodating the affluent and lazy, but those without the means to access books and other resources available (such as learning computer games for kids and access to computers to use them).
Great point, well said.
After reading so many of the comments I am reminded that we are on a tech blog. Although the "price-to-play" in the tech game is getting cheaper, there is still a barrier for those less afluent. I think that sometimes techDirt readers (and commenters) forget that technology is out of reach for a large part of the population because of financial issues and lack of knowledge of its uses.
Overcast, 4 Jan 2007 @ 12:40pmmisanthropic humanis:
Oh, I'm not even attempting to hide any opinion :)
I just think it's indicative of the sad state of affairs of the world.
I did find it interesting; however - what the most common name in London was this last year given to new babies...
So again, who's country is it?
Funny - how many go on about how wonderful their ideas are, yet their citizens are leaving their countries in droves for the US, UK, and another other 'free' country of the world.
And the history's being torn away in the process.
But maybe that's too simplistic of a view :)
And no, I'm not racist, I just shiver to see many who ARE racist trying to culturally take over so many other portions of the world. -- and then try to say anyone that speaks out against it is 'racist'
I think it's acceptable if they are moving to assimilate in a country and abide by it's laws, but that's not the case. Many foreign cultures will attempt to impose their culture on the natives of the new countries. The problem is - then the countries they immigrate to, become no better than the ones they left! And yes, of course that's happened before in history, but I'd like to *think* people are wiser now..... but maybe not.
I think the 'western' view upholds free information and liberty. Whereas places like Mexico and Palestine do not - for different reasons each country is a cesspool in it's own right. If they were wonderful countries. why do their citizens leave to others? I mean - I suspect you think the UK is a great country, and I'd agree - and I also suspect you wouldn't want to leave, anymore than I would want to leave the US.
And I do realize you can't stereotype everyone, I'm sure the reasons people come to the US and UK are as varied as the families themselves. But we are blind to think that all the reasons are as good as we would like to believe.
There is a Russian Girl I work 'with' who immigrated over here, and I try to help her all I can. Doesn't matter to me if she wants to stay in the US or leave, she's a friend. But on the other hand, there's a number of Russians that come to the US to pander drugs and arms. Nothing against any culture, I just wish more people would leave the 'appeasement' attitude at the garbage can and stand up for what truly is good in this world. I hear the media spinning it like 'Islam' is such a wonderful religion. Now, I'm sure the reformed ones are, but the original tenants clearly state to kill all non-believers. And I even hesitate to write that, but why - it's the truth, isn't it?
But then I think God is good, religion is a twisted device of man to further use as a tool for power over others. I cannot think of a *single* religion in the world I would consider *good*. The Catholics are holier than everyone else, while half their clergy rapes kids, the evangelical ones try to rule your life, and steal from the masses while promising heaven, Islam is blowing everything up, Hinduism has so many sub-cults that teach odd mysticism and mind-washing 'power' tricks...
I suspect those who *truly* seek God are different. But one must realize that whatever created us put a conscious into us that cannot be ignored - at least, for our own good. But honestly, it seems perhaps some of the members of a religion may seek God - but the religion itself... seems all about POWER.
Of course, the alternative is that we are the products of a series of chemical reactions. If that's true, it doesn't matter what you believe. Of course - if you're wrong.... it may matter.
And I think 'Political Correctness' is nothing less than 'doublespeak' and can do far more damage than people give it credit for. No culture is perfect, by any means; but many do not endorse killing others to promote their agenda either.
Eeek!that was long-winded. But I can't deal with this 'Political Correct' BS, anymore I don't really care if people want to see things like they are or not - but you're only lying to yourself if you refuse to see it. And if that's the most intellectual honesty you can give yourself, well - in the long run, you'll be the only one that has to live with that fact :)
And that was not directed at you MH, it just got me ranting. Most of your posts seem pretty well thought out :) I just can't deal with all this 'doublespeak' anymore.
Wolff000, 4 Jan 2007 @ 12:49pm
Wow Some Long Comments Up ThereMany people that put things more eloqently than I can have already said most of this but the great thing about the net is everybody gets a say, even a dumbass like me. Anyways libraries aren't just a warehouse of books their an oasis of intelligence in an increasingly dumb world. The public library isn't just a place to read but a place to explore, discover, and discuss. I have to admit that I don't get to the library a lot these days but I still go. Sometimes for a book or research some times for meeting of various kinds. Luckily my city just opened a new main library with great facilities of all types. Meeting rooms galore and tons of PCs for the net. They even found a place for the old classics nobody reads. (I know people do read them and so do I but you get the point.) Libraries simply need to adapt not be abolished. I think the warehouse idea with a good ditribution network is great but we should still have some real libraries for those that appreciate them.
misanthropic humanist, 4 Jan 2007 @ 1:20pm
divisions and identityHey Overcast,
I'm feeling a lot of passion in your words, but I'm a bit confused. I hope my defensive quip didn't piss you off because I was only reacting to what seemed to be you suggesting I was anti-immigrant. Obviously I'm not, within sensible reason, and I see neither are you. As an American and a Englishman neither of us could really hold that view, America is built by immigrants and so is England. Yes, funny thing about England - we're all imigrants. We're one of the most invaded nations in history! Even our Queen is a German :)
Yes, doublespeak and political correctness are the enemy. Those that hide behind niceities and will not speak their minds are cowards. And sometimes the truth is unpleasant but it must be spoken. Once it is spoken we usually find we have more in common than against each other.
Economics in the UK are not very good right now. We have a lot of Polish, Hungarian, Czech and Slovaks coming now. They are nice people. But does it hurt me that my brothers can't get work because they take the jobs - I would lie to say it doesn't, but I don't hate the immigrants for that. Thats the real politik of globalisation for what it's worth. Ultimately it means less wars and better understanding if we take an optimistic view.
May I address your thoughts about religion. This may seem oblique, but stay with me please. Have you heard the phrase "divide and conquer"? There are an infinite number of partitions on mankind and each is exploited by those that seek power. Emphasising our differences to create the "other" is the oldest trick in the book. I despise Humanists and Athiests who attack other religions and call them stupid just as much as any other bigots. It is very hard for a freethinking rationalist to be comfortable with any dogma and I align myself with no organisation. Religion is not the enemy per se, it is those who hijack it for their power trips, as you say, the child molesting Catholics, the "Holier than thou" Protestants, the murderous Zionists and the mad Mullahs. But they are a small disruptive minority. Most of the Muslims, Jews and Christians I know are peaceful people with no axe to grind. But they are painted as such by those who wish to divide us for the profits of war. Those who truly seek God do it alone.
Of course my moniker "misanthropic humanist is a joke" an oxymoron. I rather like people on the whole, especially the ones who are different, honest and have the courage to speak their mind.
I disagree with you on one point. Palestine and Mexico cannot be compared. But I do not want to go down that road today.
Snarl Greywolf, 4 Jan 2007 @ 1:27pm
Overcast said it all...Not much more need be said as he/she pretty much summed up society today. On a side note, a little-known song that came out a few years back did the same thing. I recommend everyone give it a listen as it too describes America specifically - to a 'T'. The song is by a singer called only "Lazyboy" and the song, "Underwear Goes Inside The Pants"
Overcast, 4 Jan 2007 @ 1:47pmMH - ok, I have to agree with you on religion there, I guess I get frustrated on it all sometimes as it seems like there's more problems than good that come out of it.
As for Palestine and Mexico - I actually used those two, because I agree - there is really no comparison. They have big problems - yes, VERY different problems. But they are the same in the sense that their citizens are all but tripping over each other to get out.
As for immigrants - I agree 100%!! It's not the immigrants that are the problem, at least when the goal is to build a better society :)
I think we do actually agree on a lot, I'm glad I post here, other than a few random fools, most people here seem quite willing to 'talk' about issues and not just rant and flame.
Jatopian, 4 Jan 2007 @ 2:45pm
Re: 3. all the books on a thumbdriveThis does leave me with a Lisa Simpson moment, shaking my head at ignorant shallowness and the decline of Western civillisation.
I just want to point out how ironic that comment is, with its Simpsons reference and misspelling.
misanthropic humanist, 4 Jan 2007 @ 2:59pm
Doh!You got me.
I actually thought that as I typed it, and then thought "what the hell"
Foofdawg, 4 Jan 2007 @ 4:36pm
Already in processI didnt have a chance to read everyone's post, but most of the classics are already being digitized.
Check out project gutenberg where you can download free versions of thousands of un-copyrighted works. I have read tons of Arthur Conan Doyle for free and without regret of stealing it.
Check it out at http://www.gutenberg.org
It's a Super fantastic resource for the classics, but sadly, not in original print.....
victor, 4 Jan 2007 @ 4:37pm
Ebooks and Digital LibrariesEnjoyed reading your post. Libraries are just becoming digital. The physical brick buildings will be there, but the content will be virtual.
For everyone's info, we at Bookyards ( http://www.bookyards.com ) have compiled a good collection of free digital libraries with books available for downloading for free. Just go to Bookyards "Library Collections - E Books" at http://www.bookyards.com/links.html?type=links&category_id=1780
There are approximately 550 digital libraries separated alphabetically and by category, with over 500,000 unique ebooks
Bookyards is a free online library located at www.bookyards.com
Dempsey, 4 Jan 2007 @ 10:56pm
As a librarian...Couldn't read all the comments, but here's my $0.02 (got change for a nickel?)
The duty of a public library is "to serve the entertainment and informational needs of its patrons." Format doesn't matter, physical location doesn't matter. If public libraries can fulfill the above duty by turning into large computer labs with a T1 connection to the `net, librarians are (or should be) for it. That hasn't happened yet, but may happen over the next 20 years.
And for those doing research only on the `net, 70% of the info available in books in libraries is not available on the net (unless you get a login from your public library to access the databases they subscribe to).
Thank you for your time.
Leo Klein, 5 Jan 2007 @ 1:25am
Every person his or her bookAustin doesn't understand what the purpose of a public library is -- particularly a branch library. It isn't there to hold books you'll never use. It's there to have what you're most likely to want.
The system should allow you to get your hands on a copy of "Candide" by Voltaire (hence the Long Tail) but that can be done through a central depository -- and not necessarily on the local shelf.
Jon Swift, 6 Jan 2007 @ 12:55pm
Dusty, Old ClassicsI'm glad they are getting rid of these dusty old "classics." If you really want to read Proust's Remembrance of Things Past (and who does?), it's so much easier to read it online.
Cpt Ramius, 8 Jan 2007 @ 3:36am
Re: Dusty, Old ClassicsI wish you success reading Proust online, without notes, introduction or any other help.


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Ann Romney delivered a heartfelt speech at the Republican National Convention Wednesday, heaping praise on her husband as a man and a leader.
With a beaming smile, Mrs. Romney told the crowd about her husband's humor and heart in a prime-time speech that sounded at times like a heart-to-heart talk among women and at times like a testimonial to her husband's little-known softer side.
"This man will not fail. This man will not let us down," Mrs. Romney said.
"It's the moms who always have to work harder, to make everything right," she said. And she vouched firmly for her husband, who lags behind Obama in surveys among women voters: "You can trust Mitt. He loves America."
Romney walked on stage and kissed his wife to the tune of the Temptation's "My Girl," as the evening drew to a close.
Earlier, the Romneys watched on television at a hotel suite across the street from the convention hall as delegates sealed his hard-won victories in the primaries and caucuses of last winter, by giving him his nomination. They ended the evening together in a VIP box just above the convention floor.
Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy
Unlike other speakers in the eight-hour session who criticized opponents or rallied support for partisan issues, Mrs. Romney focused less on politics and more on the personal.
"Tonight I want to talk to you about love," she began. "I want to talk to you about the deep and abiding love I have for a man I met at a dance many years ago. And the profound love I have, and I know we share, for this country."
Mrs. Romney's appearance was the highlight of the night, and it turned the proceedings into something of a his-and-hers convention.
"I read somewhere that Mitt and I have a "storybook marriage. Well, in the storybooks I read, there were never long, long, rainy winter afternoons in a house with five boys screaming at once," she said.
"A storybook marriage? No, not at all. What Mitt Romney and I have is a real marriage," she added in an appearance meant to cast her multimillionaire-businessman-turned politician in a softer, more likable light.

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1. Re: CS4 Installation Problemstry67 Nov 5, 2008 1:16 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete and check if there's an item named iexplore.exe in the Processes tab. If there is, close any instances of it manually. If it keeps opening up you should scan your computer for viruses and other malware. Also, you should contact Adobe Technical Support, not Customer Service.
2. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Jerry_Reynolds) Nov 6, 2008 3:26 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Thank you try67. I did have a virus. After cleaning up my system, I was able to get rid of iexplore.exe and the install Adobe CS4.
Thanks again,
I must note here that the Adobe Technical Support could not solve the problem.
3. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Paul_Schroeder) Nov 8, 2008 1:31 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I am trying to install Creative Suite 4 Web Premium. All goes well until the "progress" bar for the first installation disk reaches mid point, and then my computer crashes (blue screen), and then reboots. My pc, an Acer Aspire 5100 notebook pc meets all the requirements for installation. I have the Vista Premium operating system installed, and have 4 gigs of ram. I am installing it on my D: drive as my C: drive doesn't have enough space. I've also tried to install just Acrobat 9 and Photoshop, but it still crashes. (Interesting coincidence: A couple weeks ago, my Snagit 9 screen capture software started crashing my pc to blue screen whenever I use it.) ANY IDEAS?
4. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsDov Isaacs Nov 8, 2008 1:42 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Paul,
There is nothing in Adobe's Creative Suite or its installer that can cause a BSOD (Blue Screen of Death). Such a situation may be caused only by a non-recoverable hardware failure or a programming error either in the operating system or a low level device driver, i.e. code running in Windows' privileged mode. The fact that you were getting BSOD when running SnagIt also points to system software or hardware problems that predate your attempt to install CS4. Please get your system's hardware diagnosed, check for newer device drivers, and finally, also check for any viruses or malware that may have installed some privileged code on your system.
- Dov
5. Re: CS4 Installation Problemstry67 Nov 8, 2008 4:13 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Paul, follow Dov's excellent advices, but also be aware that even if you install the CS4 applications on the D drive you still need plenty of space on your C drive for it to work efficiently. This is not related, however, to the BSOD you're getting.
6. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Naomi_Shein) Nov 9, 2008 3:39 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Tried to install CS4 design standard (student licensing) to my windows XP 32 computer.
Able to install all with the exception of Indesign. Although it comes as a single DVD, I am getting the following: Please insert adobe cs4 design standard disc 2 into drive d.
Is anyone aware of a solution to the problem?
7. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Rachael_olive) Nov 10, 2008 11:04 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I am having the same problem, Naomi. Can't get InDesign to install. Keeps asking to insert disk 2. My computer is an HP Vista 64-bit. Any solutions?!
8. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(James_Laughlin_Marshall) Nov 11, 2008 12:54 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I am having the same problem installing the full CS4 suite. Adobe hasn't been much help to this issue just yet! Any ideas anyone?
9. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Peter_inv) Nov 12, 2008 8:50 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Error: I was able to install CS4 on a Dell windows XP fully, but when I launch photoshop I receive an error 0xc0000005 . and reports that pohotoshop needs to close. Does anyone have any ideas?
10. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Rachael_olive) Nov 12, 2008 9:40 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Anyone having problems with CS4 Student Version Design Standard:
The product was sent out as incomplete - it is missing disc 2. Adobe is taking priority to people that have received an incomplete product and e-mails can be sent to them at:
11. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Basilio_Alferow) Nov 12, 2008 9:48 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))In my case it will just not install to the D: drive. Due to space limitations I only have 5.5GB left on my C: drive so I've been installing apps in a Program Files folder on my D: drive. Been doing this for a while, even all of my CS3 Premium paks were installed there. However, when installing CS4 Master Collection and selecting the D: drive as destination, the space available updates to reflect the space on that drive [125GB], the space needed shows some 16GB, and the warning that there is insufficient space is also displayed. That warning doesn't go away until I deselect components to get under the 5.5GB point. Then it proceeds to install, but to the C: drive! Have tried this twice, with identical results. I'm running XP Pro SP3 with 4GB RAM on a core duo quad processor.
12. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Norm_Fenlason) Nov 15, 2008 9:27 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Installing CS4 Design Premium upgrade on Win XP SP3.
The "Checking System Profile" has been slowly progressing for about 40 minutes, so far, and has not progressed. This was after the installation caused several reboots.
Have already checked for virii and nothing found. The Setup.exe does not appear to be consuming CPU time in Task Manager. The system idle is consuming 99%. No dvdrom and hd drive lights. What gives?
13. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(David_Artz) Nov 15, 2008 11:25 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I upgraded from Photoshop CS4 to Creative Suite CS4 Web Premium this week. When I launch Photoshop now I do NOT see Photoshop CS4 "Extended", it appears to only be regular Photoshop CS4 (not with Extended Features :-(
The "About Photoshop" dialog box has NO indication it is Extended version and when I look for features particular to Extended version
(e.g., 3D and Analysis) I see NOTHING?
Any ideas?
14. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsBobLevine Nov 15, 2008 11:37 AM (in response to (David_Artz))Are you sure you got Web Premium? Web Standard only has the standard
version of Photoshop.
15. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(David_Artz) Nov 15, 2008 2:01 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Yes, it's web premium.
OK, I just now stumbled on the solution...
I ran Photoshop CS4 (installed as part of Web Premium) and "Deactivated" the license for Photoshop upon which it exits out of the program. Upon running it again, well SUPRISE, there's Photoshop CS4 EXTENDED :-)
I'm in buisness :-)
16. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsPeter Spier Nov 16, 2008 5:25 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Norm,
Be sure you've got your antivirus turned off completely during the installation.
17. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Tommy_Lee19) Nov 19, 2008 12:40 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))i got cs4 extended installed properly and it worked great for like almost a week but i had to do a system restore to get ride of some spyware i had on my computer and i went back about 2 hours before i had cs4 on there so it unstalled and now when i got to the setup it get to 90% and will sit there for days and not budge any ideas???
18. Re: CS4 Installation Problemstry67 Nov 19, 2008 1:41 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))CS4 Clean Script: http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cs4clean.html
19. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Joan_Bennett) Nov 23, 2008 5:57 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))CS4 installing on Vista ~ keep getting message installed with errors, when I try to run the Photoshop I get a message that components are missing in the application directory, need to reinstall, have reinstalled several times with no luck, any help would be appreciated
20. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsPeter Spier Nov 24, 2008 2:47 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))First, be sure you are logged in on an administrator account and turn off User Access Control. Uninstall before you try to re-install again, and make sure you turn off anti-virus and other background programs during installation.
21. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(A44) Nov 25, 2008 5:04 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Dov,
I also got a blue screen trying to upgrade to CS4 Design Premium. To test your hardware failure theory, I attempted installing it on several other machines (XP & Vista) and had the same result.
1st disc installs smoothly, but when I get to disc 2, it always crashes on InDesign. All other components have been installed and work fine.
22. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsMichaelKazlow Nov 25, 2008 5:15 PM (in response to (A44))Could be a bad disk.
23. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsDov Isaacs Nov 25, 2008 6:25 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Problem could readily be a bad physical disk which triggers an error that the Microsoft CD/DVD driver doesn't properly handle. Again, nothing that Adobe's installer could readily detect or cause. Call Adobe Customer Support and request a replacement DVD. There should be absolutely no charge for such a replacement. (If they give you hassles about this, ask for a supervisor - still have problems, contact me via e-mail off-list!)
- Dov
24. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Kate_Marsh) Nov 26, 2008 2:28 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I am trying to install Acrobat Professional from CS4 Design Standard Suite (TLP download,not CD) and the system tells us we have to install another program as well eg Photoshop. We only want to download Acrobat on this PC as it doesn't have much memory and doesn't need any other new software, which we will be using for another employee's PC. Surely this should be OK? We bought the suite in order to divide the programs between the team.
25. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsSimonWarner Nov 26, 2008 2:56 AM (in response to (Kate_Marsh))The suite is one unit. You cannot divide it between anything or anyone.
One person, one suite. Two people, even using different components, two
Perhaps instead you should buy each person only the apps they need.
26. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsPeter Spier Nov 26, 2008 5:04 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))TLP is a volume licensing program, so it's possible Kate isn't trying to do anything that would violate the license, just equip different seats with different subsets of the suite.
This has come up before, and there is no solution that I know of short of installing Acrobat with another app, then activating, and uninstalling whatever it was you didn't need (and I'm not certain that you can even uninstall the other one and keep acrobat alive). Of the apps in Design Premium, InDesign seems to have the smallest footprint on disk, with Illustrator only slightly larger.
27. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(mike_elston) Nov 26, 2008 10:48 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I am also getting a BSOD when installing CS4 and it appears to me that despite your assurance that it has nothing to do with Adobe, I fully believe you better check around the internet because you got allot people out their who seem to be having the same problem.
Do we all have problems on our PCs or is it something with Adobe. No other software has ever given me this problem and it's quite annoying when you spend several hundred dollars and you can't even install the software.
28. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(Antonio_Comia) Apr 28, 2009 9:02 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))i get this error when installing cs4: "session has dependencies that cannot be satisfied."
my spyware and antivrus/firewall are all off.
i have downloaded twice to be sure the files are not corrupted.
any ides?
29. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(teri_savage) Dec 3, 2008 10:33 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Several of us who upgraded to CS4 Design Premium are having file association issues. We cannot open CS4 program files from Windows Explorer because it's not recognizing the file extensions. When we go to Control Panel to change the file associations, the programs don't show up in the list. We've browsed to the CS4 folder and selected the .exe file for the programs in attempt to add them to the program list, but nothing happens.
Four out of four of us who performed the install have experienced this problem. Our help desk hasn't been able to find a solution. Has anyone else had the same experience and if so, how was it resolved? We've been upgrading these products with each new release since InDesign was called PageMaker and have never had such trouble.
30. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsPeter Spier Dec 3, 2008 11:10 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Teri,
InDesign was NEVER called Pagemaker. :) the two are lightyears apart.
But on a more pertinent note, it sounds like all four of you have an installation problem, and since it bit you all the same way, it sounds like something you all did, or failed to do, during the install procedure. Did you shut down your anti-virus software?
31. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(mike_elston) Dec 3, 2008 7:23 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Peter (or to anyone who can solve this)

I apologize for my frustration with Adobe but firmly stand behind my statement that adobe needs to a better job.

I've removed the anti-virus, shut down the anti-virus, run it in modified mode, used the ASA assistant, disable user account control, contacted support (which they have yet to even responded to my inquiry)

From what I can deduce with my limited programming knowledge is that the Adobe installer tries to write something that interferes with the Vista SP1 program

Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected.

or Unknown hardware conflict:

The entry <C:\CONFIG.MSI\54422.RBS> in the hash map cannot be updated.

Context: Application, SystemIndex Catalog

Details:
 A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x8007001f)

Eternally grateful to anyone who can solve this madness

Mike
32. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsPeter Spier Dec 4, 2008 3:21 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Mike,
I know practically nothing about Vista, but your error seems to point too some hardware problem. Have you tried copying the Disks to the hard drive and installing from there? DVD drives are not always the most reliable of devices, in my experience.
33. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(mike_elston) Dec 7, 2008 10:33 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))just an FYI for anyone else struggling to install CS4 this is how I got it to install after hours and hours of trying. Perhaps this will help you out.
(a) Update all your drivers (not an endorsement: but Driver Checker worked for me)
(b) Disable your virus scan and firewalls. Reboot after disabling them.
(c) Install CS4 without all the "recommended add-on" and ancillary items. In my case it appears (and while I can't prove it) the new Adobe Media player and AIR seem to be the most troubled application(s)
Call me a spammer if you want but to say the BSOD is unrelated to Adobe Installation is just a typical denial I've seen used by too many companies nowadays.
They are absolutely related, Adobe is trying to install something (perhaps a .DLL) that Windows Vista SP1, your hardware and/or Virus scans don't like and reject it (just like your body rejects a cold or too much beer)
mike elston
34. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(OBI656) Dec 7, 2008 1:21 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I have NO (!) idea what for you like to apologize to ADOBE since ADOBE is doing absolutely and marvelously horrible public relation as well as technical support !!!
We are on Apple computers latest (very expensive models) and it is ONLY ADOBE which cost problems. To install other software is a breeze compare to ADOBE installation. ADOBE installation is a nightmare !!!
Reply from ADOBE is NIL NADA NON or absolutely non expert oriented means useless !!!
We did invest in to ADOBE software a lot of $$$ over the years and so unfortunately we have to stick with them but hopefully not for long ...
35. Re: CS4 Installation ProblemsDov Isaacs Dec 7, 2008 3:38 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))Sorry Mike, but you just don't know what you are talking about. There is nothing that Adobe is trying to install that Windows Vista SP1 or your hardware "doesn't like." Yes, there have been times that Virus scanners do yield "false positives" when software is installed. That is exactly why turning off on-access virus checkers is advised. But again, the facts are that (1) the actual software installation is done underneath the covers by the same Microsoft Installer used by all other Windows-compliant applications and (2) there is absolutely nothing in any of the Adobe applications, the installer scripts, and/or the software that is installed that can yield a BSOD directly. What is true is that underlying drivers and operating system code can cause a BSOD.
Numerous reports on this forum report BSODs when having troubles reading an installation DVD (i.e., "read errors" due to a marginal disk or marginal drive). Either the BSOD is being caused by the base level CD/DVD driver or more likely, by any number of additional drivers installed by various CD/DVD authoring programs that try to intercept or augment the standard CD/DVD driver. When troubleshooting some problems on my systems due to CD/DVD problems (not associated with installing or using Adobe software, but occuring when otherwise reading or writing CD/DVD content by non-Adobe installers or other software), I was amazed at how much crud is installed by these CD/DVD authoring and playback programs and the potential for conflict between these drivers, all competing to control my CD/DVD and BlueRay drives.
In any case, I will reiterate on behalf of Adobe that such BSODs are not caused by any Adobe software but rather by underlying system drivers or operating system invoked by standard Windows system software called by Adobe's installation procedures.
I don't deny that such BSOD problems are a royal pain in the butt, but there is nothing that Adobe can do about them given that the software causing them is neither distributed nor controlled by Adobe.
- Dov
36. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(DN9) Dec 7, 2008 4:21 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I have been trying to install the CS4 Design Premium upgrade. The first disk is fine. I put in the second disk and about 5 or so minutes into the install, I get the BSOD. This has happened 3 times in a row - exactly the same. I have gone through uninstalling what did get on and then try again. I have NEVER had the BSOD on my computer. My computer is 2 year old Dell. I am using Windows XP Service Pack 2. I have 33 GB free space on C drive and 2 GB RAM.
I have tried what someone else had suggested about copying the disks and trying to install from those. That didn't work. I also tried to separately install Illustrator (this was after I did have a partial install of what was on the first disk (DW, FW, Acrobat) The first disk was fine. When I put the in the second disk when prompted, it froze.
I am extremely frustrated to have purchased expensive software that will not easily install. This is taking too much time. I have had CS and CS2. The worst problem I ever had with those was having to download 270 patch for Acrobat in CS2.
I don't buy that there is something wrong with my computer. I do not have a virus. I am not sure what to do to get this installed properly. I was planning on trying to individually install each program, but that seems so time consuming and I am not convinced that it will work. Before I try that I wanted to see if someone here could give me advice.
Thank you so much for your help.
37. Re: CS4 Installation Problemstry67 Dec 7, 2008 4:29 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))DN9, you said:
>> I have tried what someone else had suggested about copying the disks and trying to install from those. That didn't work.
What do you mean by "that didn't work"? Were you unable to copy the files or were you able to copy them, but not install them?
If the former, then it's obviously a problem with the DVD, the DVD-player or the drivers. If the latter, please describe what exactly happened when you tried to install locally.
38. Re: CS4 Installation Problems(DN9) Dec 7, 2008 5:21 PM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))I copied the disks as backup DVDs then tried to install from those backups. They did the same thing. It hangs in installation when the 2nd disk is inserted. Windows task manager advises that the installer is not responding.
39. Re: CS4 Installation Problemstry67 Dec 8, 2008 12:10 AM (in response to (Jerry_Reynolds))It could still be that your DVD-drive or drivers are damaged. You should copy the installation files to your local computer and then run the installation from there. If there's a problem with the DVD, the drive, or the drivers, you will probably encounter an error while copying.


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17 Phil. i. 18.
18 2 Tim. ii. 17.
19 2 Cor. vi. 14.
20 1 John iv. 3.
21 Matt. vii. 21.
22 Matt. xxiv. 5, 25.
23 John xiv. 6.
24 John xvii. 3.
25 Acts ii. 38, 39.
26 John vi. 65.
27 Matt. xv. 13.
28 Luke xvi. 8.
29 Ex. xx. 12.
30 Matt. xv. 4.
31 1 Cor. xiii. 3.
32 [One of the Catholic maxims which has been terribly misunderstood and cruelly abused. See below, p. 385, notes 2 and 3.]
33 John iii. 5. [His exposition of this passage explains his hyperbole, nulla salus extra ecclesiam. Of which sec. 23, infra.]
34 Luke xii. 50. [See p. 386, first line.]
35 [Here is the qualilfying maxim to that other dictum. Potens est Dominus misericordia sua, indulgentiam dare. Matt. ix. 13, 7. How emphatic this repeated maxim of Christ! And see Jas. ii. 13.]
36 [John's baptism was under the Law, and was distinguished from Christ's baptism; which accounts for the plural in Heb. vi. 2]
37 [See Ep. lxxi, sec. 3, p. 379, supra. Here is the spirit, not of Tertullian, but of Irenaeus (vol. i. p. 310), which seems to have prevailed in the practicalsettlement, between East and West, of one vexed question. As a question of canonical consent and of irresistible logic, assuming the premiss, Cyprian appears to me justified.]
38 [See Ep. lxxi, sec. 3, p. 379, supra. Here is the spirit, not of Tertullian, but of Irenaeus (vol. i. p. 310), which seems to have prevailed in the practicalsettlement, between East and West, of one vexed question. As a question of canonical consent and of irresistible logic, assuming the premiss, Cyprian appears to me justified.]
39 1 Cor. xi 16.
40 [See this volume, infra.] A.D. 256.
1 Oxford ed.: Ep. lxiiv.
2 On which subject, again, in chap. 25: "I will not now reconsider what he angrily uttered against Stephen, because there is no necessity for it. The very same things are indeed said which have already been suffciently discussed, and it is better to pass by what suggested the risk of a mischievous dissension. Stephen, for his part, had thought that they who endeavoured to annul the old custom about receiving heretics were to be excommunicated; but the other, moved with the diffculty of that very question, and very largely endowed with a sacred charity, thought that unity might be maintained with them who thought differently. Thus, although there was a great deal of keenness, yet it was always in a spirit of brotherhood; and at length the peace of Christ conquered in their hearts, so that in such a dispute none of the mischief of schism arose between them" (Migne), [Ed. Migne adds, assuming the mediaeval system to have been known to Cyprian, as follows]: "Thus far Augustine, whom we have quoted at length, because the passage is opposed to those who strive from this to assert his schism from the Roman pontiff."
3 [It will be seen, more and more, that this entire conviction of Cyprian as to Stephen's absolute equality with himself, results from the Ante-Nicene system, and accords with his theory of the divine organization of the Church. So Augustine, as quoted in the "Argument."]
4 Meaning, probably, heretics with regard to the doctrine of the Trinity, Stephen not regarding the Novatians as" properly" heretics. [See Oxford translator, note m, p. 261.]
5 Josh. i. 8.
6 [Tit. iii. 11.]
7 Isa. xxix. 13.
8 Mark vii. 13.
9 1 Tim. vi. 3-5.
10 [This "unity" consisted not at all in agreeing with Stephen, according to our author. See good note (1) Oxford edition, p. 260.]
11 Gal. iii. 27.
12 [Cyprian does not believe in the mere opus operatumof the water. And one fears that Stephen's position in this matter bore its fruit long after in that pernicious dogma of the schoolmen.]
13 Tit. iii. 5.
14 Eph. v. 25, 26.
15 [Allowing the premisses admitted alike by Stephen and Cyprian (of which it is not my place to speak), the logic of our author appears to me irresistible. Practically, how wise the inspired maxim, Rom. xiv. 1.]
16 Mal. ii. 1, 2. [Compare Tertullian, vol. iv. p. 122.]
17 [A terrible indictment, indeed, of his brother Stephen; provoked, however, by conduct less warranted. See Ep. lxxiv. infra.]
18 [Stephen's presumption in this step is the dark spot in his record. It was a brutum fulmen, however, even in his own province. See Augustine's testimony, Oxf. ed. (note l) p. 258.]
19 Luke xviii. 8.
20 [Another of Cyprian's striking aphorisms: "Consuetudo sine veritate vetustas erroris est."]
21 Esdras iv. 38-40.
22 John xiv. 6.
23 Original, "docibilis." 2 Tim. ii. 24.
24 1 Cor. xiv. 30.
25 [Elucidation XVIII. See pp. 380 (note I) and 322 (note 2).]
26 Cant. iv. 12, 13.
27 1 Pet. iii. 20, 21.
28 [It is obvious that the Cyprianic theory of unity has not the least connection with a theory depending on communion with a particular See. But this calculates the maxim, p. 384, note 7.]
29 [See letter lxxi. p. 378, supra.]
1 Oxford ed.: Ep lxxv. [This is one of the most important illustrations of ante-nicene unity and its laws. Elucidation XIX.]
2 [But observe, in contrast, the language of Stephen, which he rebukes (sec, 26, infra), and his schismatical conduct towards the whole African Church.]
3 To the effect that he would not hold communion with them so long as they should persist in their opinion concerning the baptism of heretics, as Eusebius tells us from a letter of Dionysius of Alexandria to Xistus, the successor of Stephen, Hist. Eccles., book vii. c. 4.
4 Isa. ii. 2.
5 Ps. cxxxiii. 1.
6 [This is a sentence to be admired, apart from anything in the general subject.]


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She asked me the difference between an atheist and an agnostic. I made sure she was really okay with discussing this. She said she was. I explained what I perceived as some of the differences. She just said thanks. I asked her if she had any other questions about anything. She said no. She thanked me and got up to leave. Then she looked at me and said, " I think I'm agnostic ", then she left. The subject was never broached by either of us the rest of the day.
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I agree with you. She has to come to things on her own and in her own time. I hadn't thought about thanking her for confiding in me, so I will do that. I also thought about just letting her know I'm available if she wants to talk. It kinda all happened, and I was kinda flabbergasted, so I didn't mention it. Which I will rectify next time I see her. And how much I appreciate her, which I do. Very good nurse, very kind and loving person. All her patients adore her. Then I'm thinking just let it go naturally, no pushing, let her broach the subject again at her convenience. Let me know what you think. Thanks for the input.
I'm with ya'. The plan is just to let her know I'm available as needed, and backoff. None of that ex-mo proseltyzing shit. Like I said, she's real sweet. She always remembers peoples birthdays, will see something and get it for them, never expecting anything else from them. I was really more gobsmacked than anything. So, her pace in her time. Thanks, my friend, for the great advice. First time this has happened to me like this. Usually, a discussion ensues, as you well know. Very vocal and heated. But, like I said, this was a first. Be well, and peace.
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Good idea, Ruth. I will gather some to be ready to give to her next time she approaches me about the subject. Thank you. I hadn't even thought about that. You guys are the best.
The lady is thoughtful, free-thinking and saught your advice and confidence.
She trusts and respects you.
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Your question is 'So what should I do now ?' My answer is, I don't know!
Yeah, it's obvious to me that she has been thinking about things. And probably waiting for a time to approach me. I don't talk openly at work with people about religion, but it is no secret that I'm an atheist. I think, ( don't know ) that when she heard that older lady asking for a bible, she thought it was a good time. I'm just speculating, but it seems to make sense. Anyway, I'm just planning on letting her know I'm available and letting things procede as it does. Thanks, Napoleon. Peace.
In case it's comes up, there's a book I book I'd recommend: "Morality without God" by Walter Armstrong. It's atheist apologetics, but far gentler than someone like Dawkins. People don't generally believe in God because of finely tuned philosophical arguments, but because they fear losing things of importance without it: fellowship, a sense of purpose, a sense of right and wrong. Armstrong addresses theses sorts of issues.
I agree. Now that I've had time to digest this, I'm just gonna stay my same self, treat her as always, and let things proceed as they will. But I will have things ready, just in case. She has heard me admonish people about the gossip they do, and I usually don't join in. Just not my style. Will just see how things go. Thanks for the advice, my friend. Be well.
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