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With the Academy Award nominations just released, it is a good opportunity to look back on a pro wrestler turned actor who never won an Oscar, but was in a couple of Oscar-winning movies, like On the Waterfront, and award-winning stage productions, like Guys and Dolls.
Meet Tiger Joe Marsh.
Chances are you've seen him, as his film resume is pretty long, running from 1949's Pinky to The Cat from Outer Space in 1978, plus TV spots, like Simon & Simon and CHiPs.
He was born Joseph Samuel Marusich to parents of Yugoslavian descent August 25, 1911 in South Chicago, and grew up in the Windy City, living around 24th Street and Wentworth Avenue. When he reached the seventh grade, he quit St. Jerome's Grammar School, and began working as an errand boy at a shoe store.
The legendary Los Angeles Times sports columnist Jim Murray wrote about Tiger Joe in 1965, more than a little tongue in cheek. "He once sold newspapers to Al Capone and watched Frank Nitti's (or Johnny Torrio�s) car for him -- a wicker-trimmed Pierce-Arrow with bullet holes in it. He got into wrestling because he couldn't see that his father -- who had traded Croatia's rocks for Gary, Indiana's ingots of hot steel -- had improved himself any in the land of golden opportunity."
At a gym located on 31st Street between Princeton and Wentworth Avenues, Marusich learned wrestling, and was introduced to the pro game by Steve Savage.
Dropping Marusich in favour of Marsh, was a natural. The "Tiger" nickname came from his ring gear, which became more elaborate over the years, thanks to his Hollywood connections.
"Ralph Alswang, Broadway costume and set designer, has created a $1,000 Tiger Skin Robe for Tiger to wear as he enters the ring," reads a story in the May 1953 edition of NWA Official Wrestling. "The robe, complete with Tiger head epaulettes, has become a trademark known to all sporting fans throughout the world."
"He stood over six feet tall and weighed 262 pounds," Anthony Marusich told the Chicago Tribune upon Tiger Joe's death in May 1989. "He was ferocious in the ring, but outside of it he was gentle and very tender. He was very easygoing and everybody liked him. He had no children of his own, but was very fond of little kids. He was just a very gregarious person."
Tiger Joe Marsh was a villain, warned the Hartford Courant in November 1939, as he was "as unethical and rough a wrestler as have ever appeared in Hartford."
On the WrestlingClassics.com newsboard, Lou Thesz was asked about the big baddie. "Tiger Joe Marsh was a Chicago boy and ended up in the movie industry," wrote Thesz. "I really liked him and he trained with Ad Santel and myself a few times. He was not really champion material."
Therein is one of the last great mysteries for professional wrestling historians.
Marsh always maintained that he was world champion for a time in 1937.
"In his PR sheet he was listed a former world champion wrestling winning the title in 1937," said historian Tom Burke. "There is the story that he was wrestling in Lawrence, Mass against Paul Bowser's champion, Danno O'Mahoney and the ref slipped up and counted too fast and Joe won. Rumor or fact an interesting tid bit."
Murray, never one to get in the way of a colourful story, reported it as well in his profile of Marsh:
He won the "Heavyweight wrestling championship of the world" (which made him one of a select group of 20 or so at the time) in 1937 when a referee got his signals crossed in Lawrence, Mass., and awarded him the title over the Irishman, Danno O'Mahoney. In Irish-heavy Massachusetts this was as big a mistake as voting Republican, and Tiger Joe had to write a letter to the booking agent explaining it was no fault of his. He held the "title" only for a week.
Regardless of the truth, the fact is that Marsh's career would go in a decidedly different direction, following his four years in the service, partly stationed at Florida's Gainesville Naval Station, during the Second World War.
A chance meeting with director Elia Kazan led to his first film role, performing as a courtroom baliff in Pinky, which Kazan directed and starred Jeanne Crain. Kazan would also use the part-time wrestler in Panic In The Streets, with Richard Widmark and Paul Douglas -- he has a great streetfight scene with Jack Palance -- and in Viva Zapata! where he was a revolutionary.
"In the course of his dual career, Joe has made invaluable contacts and friends in all phases of show business, sports, and the social set," reads the NWA Official Wrestling article. "Not bad for a kid who spent his early youth acquiring bruises and black eyes."
When he was penning a look at professional wrestling in March 1957, The New York Times' Gay Talese turned to Marsh for a quote about the fans:
Other critics maintain that wrestling merely pleases the "blood-thirsty" customer, which is what certain customers have been since the days of the Roman arena. Tiger Joe Marsh, a wrestler-turned-actor, compares wrestling fans to the bullfight fans "who see blood and then yell, 'Ole! Ole! Ole!'" But Tiger says that certain of the blood-thirsty clientele also buy horror comic books, watch gangster movies and gruesome television shows.
"But even if we don't," grins Tiger Joe, "we're still having a lot of fun."
Tiger Joe Marsh was able to play more than just thugs, though.
He was a part of a touring cast of Guys and Dolls, as big Julie, and toured as well as, appropriately, the wrestler police chief in The Teahouse of the August Moon.
By the mid-1980s, Marsh had returned home to Chicago. When he died May 9, 1989 at Michael Reese Hospital in Chicago, his brother Anthony was the last surviving member of the family.
Greg Oliver is the Producer of SLAM! Wrestling. He can be emailed at firstname.lastname@example.com, and you can follow him on Twitter @gregmep.


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José Mourinho cracked a smile on a torturous evening at Goodison Park when reminded that his Chelsea "homecoming" was portrayed as the magic wand for past grievances and future happiness at Stamford Bridge. His response, in keeping with the Chelsea performance, was to shatter the illusion it can be 2004 all over again.
Nine years ago his first Chelsea reign began with a relentlessness that would deliver the club's first league title in 50 years by the season's end. Four points were dropped in the opening eight games, a measly seven from the first 39 available, with defeat only arriving in mid-October at Manchester City. Five have been dropped so far this term, after Steven Naismith's header gave Roberto Martínez his first Premier League win as Everton manager but statistics alone do not illustrate Chelsea's vulnerability. So do the range of striking options available to their manager.
"We are not unbeatable," said Mourinho in reply to the pre-season expectations his return inflated at Chelsea. "This is a different profile [to 2004]. This is a different team. I came here to work – I won't say peacefully because I am the first one that does not like to work peacefully – but to work with time, to develop the players and play the best they and we can.
"We have to be effective, be adult and not be naive. That is what we have to work on. We have to transform the beautiful football we played into goals."
Beautiful football was stretching it. Everton should have devised their own downfall in the first half, only for several glaring Chelsea misses, from debutant Samuel Eto'o and André Schürrle in particular, and the luxury of a 45th-minute lead to provide for a gradual but impressive improvement. Anchored by their own debutant, the outstanding Gareth Barry, and tireless displays from Naismith, Leon Osman, Kevin Mirallas, plus a resolute defence, Everton's composure and discipline grew in tandem with the noise levels at Goodison.
Chelsea provided a contrast. In control for an hour and aggrieved Oscar was refused a penalty by referee Howard Webb, the visitors became increasingly ragged and assisted the Everton cause with hopeful crosses towards the tiring Eto'o. Mourinho's decision to replace Juan Mata with Oscar after 57 minutes did not have the desired effect either. Chelsea's bench would be the envy of most, with no room for new £30m signing Willian, but in terms of changing style and competing with Everton's central defence for physicality, choices were limited.
"This what we have and I am happy with that," insisted Mourinho. "I am happy to work the team in that direction and it is good to see some moments and movement we had in the game. There were some fast combinations and it was very nice but it is also very nice when the ball touches the net."
Mourinho did possess a powerful alternative until recently – Romelu Lukaku – but the vagaries of modern football meant the Belgium forward paraded in an Everton shirt before kick-off, having joined on loan on deadline day, with Chelsea fans joining the applause. "It is not our squad, it is not our profile, it is not the way we are going to play. No chance," he added. "Drogba? He plays for Galatasaray. Drogba made his history here and Drogba is gone. Now there is no Drogba. We have a different profile of player and have to play according to the qualities of these players. They [Lukaku and Drogba] are not the same profile. They are completely different."
The prospect of Lukaku replacing Nikica Jelavic merely adds to the encouragement at Everton, one of only two unbeaten teams in the Premier League alongside Liverpool. Martínez described the performance as "one of my proudest moments" but even his innate optimism recognised the flaws that were encapsulated by Tim Howard rolling a needless pass straight to Schürrle. He found Eto'o, who seemed certain to mark an initially lively display with the opening goal until Barry produced a defining tackle. "Schürrle should have passed it faster," said his simmering manager. Everton were reprieved. Ross Barkley released Osman on the stroke of half-time, he floated a cross to the far post for Jelavic, who headed back across Petr Cech for Naismith to convert at close range on his 27th birthday.
Everton possessed the clinical edge that Chelsea lacked, plus an understanding between Phil Jagielka and Sylvain Distin that David Luiz and John Terry do not. With Martínez making light of absences in attack to deploy Mirallas as a productive lone striker in the closing stages and introducing young John Stones rather than John Heitinga to shore up proceedings, the manager's input proved significant.
"I think this could be the most open Premier League season," said Barry. "When you looked at it pre-season you saw the top three teams had all changed their managers and that's set it up. Nobody is that stable and nobody looks like they will run away with it. That means there could be a surprise this season and from an Everton point of view we want to get into the mix and finish as high as we can."
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TOWSON, Md. – With only two more weeks of preparation before the season opener at Connecticut, the Tigers conducted another two-a-day session on Wednesday.
After a session on the lower field, the Tigers returned to Unitas Stadium for the afternoon workout.
Tyler Bowen is one of the newest members of the Tiger coaching staff. He is working with the team's tight ends and he feels he is fortunate to have a talented group.
"This is a very good group," he says. "Everyone is working hard and they're trying to get better. We've been making a lot of progress."
The Tigers have four tight ends on the roster. In addition to senior James Oboh, sophomore Sean Mooney and red-shirt freshman Tanner Vallely, the Tigers have benefitted from the addition of graduate student Will Fleming, a transfer from the University of Akron.
Oboh has been the Tigers' starter at tight end the last two seasons and has caught 29 passes for 478 yards and six touchdowns. According to Bowen, "James has been very solid during our pre-season. He is working hard and learning a lot of the little things that can make him be an even better tight end."
A transfer from Akron, Fleming was a three-year performer at tight end for the Zips. Bowen says, "Will is a very nice addition for us. He played in a similar offense at Akron so he has been able to catch on. He could really help."
Mooney and Vallely bring size to the tight end position. Mooney is a 6-6, 230-pound sophomore with plenty of potential. A native of Germantown, Md., Vallely stands at 6-6, 250-pounds.
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CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Look who's talking.
Let's play HARDBALL.
Good evening. I'm Chris Matthews in Washington. Leading off tonight:
The looming scandals. Who is Newt Gingrich to be saying such terrible things about Democrats? Who gave him his clean bill of ethical health? Good question. This week, the former Speaker began to loom as a key Republican presidential candidate. Is his rise to plausibility evidence of the weak Republican field for 2012, one so weak that a politician forced from Congress under an ethical cloud would dare to stick his head into a presidential race?
The headline stories beneath the attention Republicans are giving to the problems of Charlie Rangel are the far ethical bigger fish to fry. Senator David Vitter involved with sex scandals in D.C. and in his home state of Louisiana, is now the target of a Democratic Web ad. And what about John Ensign, the other Republican senator engaged in a sex scandal, out in Nevada? Or did we forget Mark Sanford, the fellow said to be hiking on the Appalachian Trail but actually somewhere in Argentina with his girlfriend?
Now for the real felons on the Republican hit list. Duke Cunningham -
don't let him out. He won't get out of jail until after the next presidential election. Congressman Bob Ney and Jack Abramoff also served time recently. They got out of stir and they're on the loose right now. And don't forget dancing Tom DeLay.
Also, kicked out by the right, part one. Republican congressman Bob Inglis was beaten and beaten down by the tea party crowd. He says there are a lot of things he wished he'd said to them and he's saying them now. We've got him tonight.
Then, kicked out by the right, part two. Who would have thought that Charlie Crist, not long ago the Republican governor of Florida, would wind up being with the other party and their hope for holding the Senate? Oh, he's not quite with them. He's an independent. But we'll see. He's polling better now than his tea party opponent. If he wins, will he become a Democrat? We'll ask him tonight.
And yes, today's job numbers—they're are bad, but at least the Democrats are doing something about it, coming back next week to save 300,000 public service jobs, not just saying no, like the others seem to be doing.
"Let Me Finish" tonight with a push for open minds and hearts on what the law should say in this country about same-sex marriage.
Let's start with the looming Republican list of scandals. Roger Simon is chief political columnist for Politico and David Corn is the Washington bureau chief for "Mother Jones" magazine.
Let's take a look at this ad. Here's the Louisiana Democratic Party.
They made an anti-Vitter Web ad. Let's watch.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Coming soon, unforgotten crimes, a prominent Louisiana politician caught up with prostitution scandals in Washington, D.C., and New Orleans.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He went in, took a shower, spoke very little to me at first. He did his thing. I was $300.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Held accountable by no one.
MATTHEWS: I don't know what that was! These are some of the people, by the way, Republicans hope voters don't remember when ethics comes up as an issue. Former congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham—he pled guilty to taking bribes and resigned his seat in November 2005. He's in federal prison now. He'll still be in prison, by the way, through the next presidential election.
Former congressman Bob Ney resigned and pled guilty to trading political favors for gifts and campaign donations. He had eight months in federal prison. Now he hosts his own radio talk show. Why not? Former House majority leader Tom Delay was forced to resign on charges of corruption, but no trial scheduled for him. He's probably best known for "Dancing With the Stars." And of course, Jack Abramoff, the most famous of them all—he admitted—he's an admitted felon and former lobbyist, now works at a pizza parlor up in (INAUDIBLE) hat brim down there!
MATTHEWS: By the way, it's a kosher place. I shouldn't say that, but it sounded interesting. This guys—these guys are amazing. The Republican Party, going after a couple members of the House now, Charlie—
Charlie Rangel and—fair enough. But they seem to have no shame about this incredibly tawdry list that sits (INAUDIBLE) And now Newt Gingrich sticking his head up as if he's—you know, he's St. Francis!
ROGER SIMON, POLITICO.COM: Well—
MATTHEWS: What's going on here?
SIMON: Gingrich is a guy with more baggage than Samsonite.
SIMON: This is not a guy who should even be thinking about running for president. But I've got to say about the Vitter ad that the Democrats are going the wrong way. Nobody in Louisiana is shocked that their elected representatives hang out with hookers. If—
MATTHEWS: They're not? Come on! I think they get past the fact that politics is entertainment.
SIMON: They would be pleased if that was the worst that their politicians—
MATTHEWS: You are so hardened in your heart!
SIMON: You know—
MATTHEWS: You are so hardened that you think that committing crimes in Washington, D.C., and down there in Louisiana, when you're running on the party of—what is it, the moral majority party? (INAUDIBLE) Republican song this week?
SIMON: Yes. Right.
MATTHEWS: Well—
SIMON: The public—the public knows it's not on the level, and they don't go into the voting booth saying, Which of these two mugs is the most honest? They say, Which of these two mugs is going to bring me something that I need, a better environment, good education, a job—
MATTHEWS: OK, Corn, are you—are you this hardened? Are you this -
are you this—do you really believe that this wasn't a big problem for him before the BP scandal—the BP situation overwhelmed it? You think—do you think that—let's take Ensign out there. We talked here about the governor of South Carolina for quite a bit and his escapade. And now Newt Gingrich is coming back. There is a certain attitude.
What astounds me is the willingness of the Republican Party to claim the moral banner with this trail of shame.
DAVID CORN, "MOTHER JONES": Well, that's—that's always the issue, you know, the family values, the hypocrisy. And I think what the Republicans show us—and this is not a lesson I want my kids to learn—which is if you put shame aside, you can get pretty far down the road in this world.
CORN: I mean, look at John Ensign. I mean, that's actually a more serious case than just what David Vitter did because—
MATTHEWS: Tell us that story.
CORN: That involves lobbyists. That involves influence and—
MATTHEWS: Former aide—
MATTHEWS: -- wife.
CORN: Yes, there's a federal investigation he might have used his office to get work for people to hush up and be quiet. So you know—and yet, he's still in the Senate. There's no pressure from the rest of his colleagues. The Republicans on the Hill who want to scream about Charlie Rangel are not saying anything about John Ensign. They want to point the finger at Maxine Waters. And these Democrats deserve scrutiny if they get caught like this, but these Republicans don't want to look at their own, who I think have done probably worse than—
MATTHEWS: Well, the thing about the Republican problems is they seem to be prima facie problems, where the Democrats, you have to spend a year-and-a-half trying to figure out if they actually did something wrong or not!
MATTHEWS: Where these things just loom in your—Newt Gingrich, at the time that Bill Clinton was up for impeachment because of a problem with Monica Lewinsky, was having an affair with someone on the House side.
CORN: Yes.
MATTHEWS: Right in the middle of the whole thing, no problem! And then he gets kicked out because he has a—a formal reprimand, first time it's ever been done to a Speaker of the House, walks away. Now he's walking back as if he's been out cleaning up his act somewhere.
SIMON: As you indicated, the media is partially complicit with this, not just—
MATTHEWS: The memory loss—
SIMON: -- media. Tom DeLay is indeed waiting trial, but he's also an accused felon, indicted for—
MATTHEWS: Well, he's been accused, yes.
SIMON: -- indicted for money laundering. And he's—when he goes on news-talk programs, he's not introduced as an accused felon. He's introduced as a former majority leader of the House. He's introduced as the man from "Dancing with the Stars." Why are these people—
MATTHEWS: I'm on radio one time with G. Gordon Liddy. And I got no problem with him personally. Actually, I like the guy personally. But he was—
CORN: Did he put his hand over a candle?
MATTHEWS: -- a White House burglar. He was a burglar. And one time
MATTHEWS: -- we were on television with Pat and he's—or I was listening to him on radio, actually, and he was saying, Yes, Pat and I worked together in the White House. Pat was a speech writer. He was a burglar!
MATTHEWS: There's no shame with this crowd!
CORN: It was worse than that. He talked about killing Jack Anderson, the columnist at the time—If you want me to do that, sir.
MATTHEWS: But he also said, Knock me off. I'll tell you what corner I'm going to be on.
CORN: But you know, getting back to people like Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay—I mean, right now, the Republicans are having a field day—or think they are—with the Democratic ethics problems. But when these guys got into trouble, when Tom DeLay was—you know, ran into problems, the House Republicans actually voted to make things easier on him so he could keep his job as minority whip. So now everybody wants—
MATTHEWS: Well, I can tell you—
CORN: -- wants to be an accuser when it's the other side.
MATTHEWS: The string of felonies we went through a few minutes ago here, the number of people that have gone to federal prison on serious felony charges, the—you talked about the DeLay case, the fact that Newt Gingrich was reprimanded on his way out of the speakership, the fact that he was involved with somebody at the same time Bill Clinton got in trouble with somebody—the lack of shame is so unbelievable.
And I think you've got it. I think one party actually does feel guilty and they sort of hang their heads, right?
CORN: Well, yes—
MATTHEWS: And the other party just sort of delightfully skips away from these problems—
SIMON: Well—
MATTHEWS: -- and begins attacking.
SIMON: But the other party says, I've gone to God and asked for forgiveness. God's given me that forgiveness. It's a forgiving God. I've asked my wife and family for forgiveness. They've forgiven me. I'm talking about the sex crimes here, the sexual peccadilloes. And they say, Let's move on.
That's why I think that commercial that the Democrats are running in Louisiana is ineffective, and it takes the Democrats away from their core issues.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
SIMON: The Democrats should be talking about, We gave you health care. We're trying to create jobs. We stopped an economic collapse. We saved the auto industry.
CORN: I think what's frustrating to Democrats is that they know when this happens to members of their team, whether it's sex or ethics, you know, business and political stuff, there's an attack machine on the right that just tears them down and doesn't let them get away with sort of going into a bubble. When they look and they see Vitter standing, they see John Ensign standing, they see Newt Gingrich regarded as a statesman, and they're saying, How come the other side can get away with this, when we're always under attack? You know, Where's the attack machine on our side?
But I agree with you. I don't think this ad is going to turn a lot of votes, but I think it comes out of a certain—
MATTHEWS: OK, name a big name—
CORN: -- frustration.
MATTHEWS: -- Democratic senator who's been involved with prostitutes both in his home state and in the capitol.
MATTHEWS: I mean, I don't think there are equivalent people out there. I don't think they walk around like—you say, Oh, this is what always happens. Name me one in the category of Vitter. Name me in the category of Ensign, of screwing around—excuse me—messing around with the wife of a staff top guy and then trying to buy the guy off, the husband off, who's cuckolded here—buy him off with a federal deal somehow.
CORN: And he's still in the caucus!
MATTHEWS: And he's still there and—
CORN: Still there!
MATTHEWS: -- Harry Reid's fighting for reelection, this guy's cool!
SIMON: But you don't honestly believe that Democrats in their hearts are less sinful—
MATTHEWS: Oh, no.
SIMON: -- or moral than Republicans.
MATTHEWS: No, no. I think there's a difference in the way they're graded on this media and elsewhere. The Republicans seem to be brilliant at—maybe it's the "born again." Maybe it's the willingness to wash thyself—
CORN: But John Ensign has yet—
MATTHEWS: -- and move on.
CORN: -- has yet to confess!
MATTHEWS: But I'll tell you, you know, the fact that it takes two years to prove that Charlie Rangel did something wrong, and these other guys are walking in front of us doing it, and then nobody even asks them whether they're guilty or not—we assume they're guilty and we try to—well, Move on, is a good line. I love it. I love it. Thank you, Roger Simon. You have come back in a new way.
MATTHEWS: You're so cynical, you guys! Corn, you're still there!
Up next, my interview yesterday with Florida Senate candidate Charlie Crist is coming up. He's gaining strength as he runs as an independent. Well, my big question—Will he stay with the party that threw him out, the Republicans, or become a Democrat, or sit right there in the middle of the aisle? You know, it's possible he might do that.
This is HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: Well, another defeat for the tea party last night in Tennessee. Knoxville mayor Bill Haslam won the Republican primary for governor, beating two candidates to his right who had the support of the tea party. Haslam topped U.S. Congressman Zach Wamp, who last week talked up secession for the Volunteer State—well, they once did it before—and Tennessee lieutenant governor Ron Ramsey, who had called Islam a cult.
Haslam's the most moderate of this bunch, but even he's gone to great lengths to shore up support on the right. Last year, for example, he quit the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition to join the NRA. Haslam faces Democrat Mike McWherter in the general.
We'll be right back.
LT. GOV. JEFF KOTTKAMP ®, FLORIDA: You know, the governor left the party and then started sending signals that he was talking to Harry Reid in May. He won't give a straight answer on whether he's going to be with Republicans or Democrats.
NEIL CAVUTO, FOX: Well, what do you think? What do you think?
KOTTKAMP: I think the stakes are too high. And I know for a fact that Marco Rubio will go to Washington, fight the Obama administration, fight their agenda and fight for the principles that this country was founded on.
MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL.
That was Florida's lieutenant governor, Jeff Kottkamp, with Fox's Neil Cavuto on Wednesday. Governor Charlie Crist had picked him to be his Republican running mate back in 2006. Now the governor's an independent, and the latest polls show it's working for him. Crist leads the New Florida Poll with 41 percent to Republican Marco Rubio's 30 percent and Democrat Kendrick Meek's 12 percent. And with Democrat Jeff Greene in the race instead of Congressman Meek, if that happens, Crist still leads 37 to 29 to 16.
Governor Crist joins us now from Tampa Florida. Explain—this is something new to us. Certainly not since the days of Wayne Morse back in the early '50s have we had an independent go to Washington. Are you going to be like Mr. Smith goes to Washington, challenging the power structure—
GOV. CHARLIE CRIST (I-FL), SENATE CANDIDATE: It's not a bad model, is it?
MATTHEWS: Well, it's—I happen love that movie myself!
CRIST: I love it, too.
MATTHEWS: But—Jimmy Stewart—are you going to be able to stand up against the power structure of both parties?
CRIST: Well, I think what's most important is that you stand with the people of your state. And in this case, you know, I get asked all the time, Are you going to caucus with the Republicans or are you going to caucus with the Democrats? I'm going to caucus with the people of Florida. You know, they're tired of gridlock politics, of Washington not being able to get anything accomplished, and they want somebody who will be an honest broker, go to Washington and fight for them first. And that's exactly what I intend to do, and I look forward to it.
MATTHEWS: What happens if Mitch McConnell is the leader of the
Republicans and it's a very close decision and they still have a majority -
or they don't have a majority, and the Democrats still have a majority and Harry Reid survives this election and Harry Reid comes up to you says, I'll put you on Appropriations if you vote for me for leader. Otherwise, you're on the District of Columbia Committee. What would you do?
CRIST: Well, I think, as I said, first thing is I got to get there, and I'm working very—
MATTHEWS: Yes.
CRIST: -- hard on the campaign down here to make sure that that happens and really provide an independent voice for the people of Florida. And what I said before I really believe in my heart. I think people in Florida, and frankly, throughout the country, they're tired of the gridlock in Washington, D.C., things not getting done, progress not being made. And I think they want people who will go to Washington, fight for things not because they're a Republican issue or a Democratic issue but a good idea and a good issue. That's the way I've tried to govern as governor of Florida. We've been successful here in the Sunshine State. I'd like to take that common sense leadership to Washington.
MATTHEWS: OK. How can you become a Republican if Mitch McConnell continues with his strategy of scorched earth, which is, vote against everything and hope you bring down the house? That has been his strategy. He apparently announced it early on two years ago, We're going to bring down Barack Obama, we're voting against everything. And every time a major issue comes up, they don't compromise, they vote against. How could you join a caucus that's a "no caucus"?
CRIST: Well, what I want to do is join the people's caucus, you know
MATTHEWS: No, but that—in other words, would you—
CRIST: -- the caucus of the people of Florida.
MATTHEWS: -- imagine voting a Republican—becoming a member of the Republican caucus if they continue with their strategy "just say no"?
CRIST: It would have to do better. There's no question about it. I mean, obviously, if you're looking at reducing taxes, reducing the deficit, maybe they've got some very good ideas about that. You know, it really depends on issue by issue, Chris.
And I think people want, you know, senators, representatives to act more in that way because I think what they truly want is somebody who will look, think about an issue, understand what the ramifications are either for their district, or in my case, for my state, and do what's right for the people of Florida first. You know, instead of fighting for the party, fight for the people. That's refreshing, and I think that's what people want now more than ever.
MATTHEWS: Florida has a lot of beaches on the Gulf Coast. You've been protecting it, saying you're against further development—further drilling down there. Let me ask you a question. Learning now today, luckily for us all, the gulf is not going to get any worse—there's a million barrels out there that's not going to go away for a while, but it's not as bad as we thought it would be.
But it turns out that the drilling mud—if they'd drilled it down,
if they'd pumped it down into that well first off, the day after this spill
if they'd done it before the spill, there wouldn't have been a spill.
Now it's proven that that technology would have worked. It was a management decision that caused this, not a failure of anything. If they had had the technology in place, if they had used the drilling mud the way they were supposed to instead of sea water—which my brother's an engineer, told me they went with sea water instead of drilling mud—should there be a criminal probe of BP for its decision to save money by dumping five million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico? Should there be a criminal probe here?
CRIST: No question about it. I mean, absolutely. This is the single largest environmental catastrophe in the history of our country, threatened the beaches of my beautiful state of Florida, impacted negatively in a significant way Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and our economy in an indirect way.
I mean, people would see for three months, day after day after day, you know, the oil that was washing up on—on the shores in Louisiana or Alabama or Mississippi, and presume that was happening to Florida. It wasn't, thank goodness, except for a little bit in Pensacola Beach, but even that was minimal.
And the reality is that that impacted our tourist industry. And that's the real crime here. I mean, that's the real problem. If they could have stopped it, the way they just did this past week, they should have done that at the very outset. Why they didn't do that, I don't know. But there ought to be an investigation into it immediately.
MATTHEWS: The Republican Party, which used to be the party of Everett Dirksen and Abraham Lincoln, obviously, before that. And even Dick Nixon, back in the '50s, they were all for civil rights. They were all—Nixon was a member of the NAACP. Then they got their Southern strategy. Now they're against Hispanics.
They're now pushing to basically get rid of the 14th Amendment as we have understood it, to take away birth citizenship. I don't know how Marco Rubio, an Hispanic American, can support a party that has now, if you look at Lindsey Graham, who I always thought was a reasonable guy—you have got Kyl out in Arizona. That doesn't surprise me. You have got Chuck Grassley, who does surprise me.
John McCain surprises me. They're all out saying, let's get rid of—let's think about getting rid of the 14th Amendment so that these Hispanic people who came here because their parents brought them here to be born. They are Americans. They're growing up Americans. To them now, oh, by the way, even though your parents are illegal, you are, too, I can't believe what kind of message they're sending to Hispanics.
How can your opponent, Marco Rubio, join and support a party decision that tries to erase the citizenship of people like himself?
CRIST: That would be unconscionable to me. I can't understand it.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
MATTHEWS: Can you—you're not for any kind of revision of the Constitution in that regard?
CRIST: No, I am not, no. The 14th Amendment ought to stay the way it is. If somebody is born in the United States of America, you are an American. That is the tradition of our country. That's the way it should always be. That's the way it's always been.
And that's what America is all about. I mean, we're supposed to embrace people, give them a chance, give them an opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps that we talk about so much. And we're going to say to young people that, if you're born in the country, you're not an American anymore?
I mean, I don't know what's going on, but that's another part of the problem in Washington. People are so consumed with, in many cases, the primary that they might end up in, and, as a result of it, they don't make sense anymore.
Where is the common sense? Where is the common ground? Where is somebody who will tell the truth and speak straight with people and just tell them what is on their mind? You have to be almost an independent to be able to do it anymore in this country. And that's why I admire Joe Lieberman so much. And I think he's done an extraordinary job in the Senate. And I hope to follow him and be an independent member of the U.S. Senate after November.
MATTHEWS: Lieberman and Lindsey and John Kerry and the president, I suppose, are all supporting as part of their comprehensive immigration reform a measure whereby you can't cheat anymore. You're going to have a Social Security card that can't be faked or frauded. Are you for that?
CRIST: Well, there shouldn't be cheating, of course. Who is for that?
MATTHEWS: Are you for that kind of a foolproof card?
CRIST: Yes, I am for that. You know, there ought to be a verification. There's nothing wrong with that.
In fact, how I feel about immigration broadly, Chris, is that I think we need to, number one, secure the border. And people talk about it all the time. We need to enforce it. As a former attorney general, I understand enforcing the law. It is important to do.
But I also believe in a pathway to citizenship, that people ought to have the opportunity to legally earn citizenship. Not amnesty, but be able to earn it. I think that's a commonsense approach—
CRIST: -- that President Bush, former Senator Mel Martinez, even John McCain, support.
MATTHEWS: Governor Charlie Crist of Florida, independent candidate for United States senator, sir, thanks for joining us here on HARDBALL.
CRIST: Chris, always a pleasure. Thank you so much.
MATTHEWS: Pretty much, my interview with Charlie Crist yesterday.
Up next: Sharron Angle's downward spiral. The more we hear from her, the better Harry Reid, well, he does in the polls. Check the "Sideshow" coming up next.
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MATTHEWS: Back to HARDBALL. Now off to the "Sideshow."
You can tell the generational difference of opinion about same-sex or gay marriage by watching late night. Young people look at the opposition to it as the lunatic fringe.
Catch Stewart and Colbert.
SARAH PALIN ®, FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: California, along with so many other states, defining traditionally what—what marriage is, and to see that third branch of government undoing the will of the people gets—it's frustrating.
JON STEWART, HOST, "THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART": Wow. I just—you know what is nice? I just love the way she makes the co-equal judicial branch of our government set up by her beloved founding fathers sound like a communist plot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The latest salvo in the war over gay marriage was fired by federal Judge Vaughn R. Walker, a Republican appointee who is also openly gay.
STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE COLBERT REPORT": He's gay.
COLBERT: A case that affects gay people being decided by a gay guy.
COLBERT: Why don't we just let cases about endangered species be decided by a manatee?
TONY PERKINS, PRESIDENT, FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL: Social science shows that children do best with a mother and a father, not two adults, not three adults, not four adults.
COLBERT: That's right. You can't raise kids with four adults.
COLBERT: So, thanks for the help, grandma and grandpa, but you're totally gay.
MATTHEWS: Well, this is the right-wing's problem: Lose the Stewart and Colbert audience and you've probably lost the future.
Next: Sharron Angle ups her fringe factor. Catch this. In a candidate questionnaire sent out by a group called Government Is Not God, Nevada's Republican Senate candidate says she would oppose abortion in all cases—that's all cases—make gay adoption illegal, period, and allow clergy, including right-wing televangelists, to endorse political candidates.
And that isn't even the most extreme stuff. Angle also says that, as a candidate, she would refuse donations from any private company that supports equal rights for gay people.
Here it is. When asked, would you refuse PAC money from those who are fundamentally opposed to your views on social issues, Angle checks off yes. Then, in reference to question 35-A, Intel Corporation supports equal rights for gays and offers benefits to partners of homosexual employees, like most companies do. Would you refuse funds from this corporate PAC? Angle's answer again, yes.
The race gets more winnable for Senator Reid by the day, which brings us to tonight's "Big Number."
Just three months ago, before Angle was his opponent, Senator Reid's chances of reelection were at 23 percent on Intrade.com, less than a quarter. Where do they stand now? Fifty-eight percent, more than double.
Her positions take their toll on Angle every day. Harry Reid's odds are better than even now to stay in the United States Senate, 58 percent and rising, tonight's remarkable "Big Number."
Coming up: Republican Congressman Bob Inglis was defeated by the Tea Party crowd, but wait until you hear what he has to say about the extreme right-wingers and the Republican leaders who let them take over the party. He will be with us when we come right back.
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Stocks battling back after plunging this morning on those disappointing job numbers. The Dow Jones industrial finishing 21 points lower, after having been down as much as 160 points early in the session, the S&P and the Nasdaq both giving up about four points.
Job cuts coming in higher than expected for the second month in a row. Payrolls fell by 131,000 in July. Some of those were temporary census jobs coming to an end. Private sector hiring is up, but, again, not as much as expected.
In earnings news, AIG beat expectations on profits and revenue. Video game maker Activision Blizzard beating on profits, but missing on sales, and delivering a weaker-than-expected outlook.
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After voting for TARP and telling voters not to listen to Glenn Beck too much, South Carolina Republican Congressman Bob Inglis was outvoted in his primary this year. Now he's offering up some very honest advice for his party and some very scary stories from his time on the trail.
Here's how Mr. Inglis described one campaign donor meeting to David Corn at "Mother Jones"—quote—"They say, 'Bob, what don't you get?
Barack Obama is a socialist, communist, Marxist, who wants to destroy the
American economy, so he can take over as dictator. Health care is part of
that, and he wants to open up the Mexican border and turn the United States
into a Muslim nation.'"
Congressman Inglis joins us tonight from Greenville, South Carolina.
Well, that was a funny conversation. Somebody actually thought that the Muslims would be pouring over the Mexican border. The Rio Grande protects us from Islam. These people have got a problem.
REP. BOB INGLIS ®, SOUTH CAROLINA: I guess so. It's—I think it's generally not seen as a Muslim nation, but—Mexico isn't.
MATTHEWS: Well, what is—what is—let's talk about the conspiracy theories. What is it that's gotten into your party's water supply, the Republican Party's water supply, that makes them strangely hostile to the president, not just against his policies, but personally? Is it race?
INGLIS: Well, I think that what we have lost is respect for the facts.
And, really, across the political spectrum, both Democrats and Republicans need to have respect for the facts. I'm right down the street right now from the Michelin's North American headquarters. One of their core values, Chris, is respect for the facts.
That's what we need in Congress. What's happening, I think, is that people are departing from facts. So, on my side, we end up calling the president a socialist, for example. He's not a socialist. On the Democratic side, they say that we want to destroy Social Security. That's not true.
So, we need to have respect for the facts and agree on what are the facts. We can have our opinions about the policy prescriptions from those facts, but you can't have your own view of the facts.
MATTHEWS: Are you surprised that only a minority of Republicans, about a quarter, are willing to say for sure that the president is a born American? It's about 23 percent now, according to the latest poll. Just 23 percent say, yes, he's an American.
INGLIS: Yes, there's another one. We really need to be clear about that. We don't need to waste time, while we're facing these enormous fiscal challenges that we face, talking about whether the president is a citizen of the United States or not.
He's clearly a citizen. And, so, we should move on from that and talk about, OK, what are you going to do about Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and interest on the debt? That's 60 percent of what we're spending right now. If with do nothing, about 2050, it's 90 percent of the budget.
MATTHEWS: Would they be saying this about him if he was—if had a different ethnic background?
MATTHEWS: I mean, we have the Honolulu newspaper that shows that he was born on a certain date in 1961. I don't know about you, Congressman, but I didn't have a birth announcement in the newspaper when I was born. It's pretty transparent that the guy was born in our country.
And, yet, there's these that people keep saying, well, I don't know really. He might be one of us. He's probably not or probably is.
Is it because his name is Barack Obama? Is it because he's black? Why do they keep saying they don't know if he's American or not? They never said this about any president we have had.
INGLIS: I don't know. I think they—they don't hear what you just said. And more people need to say it.
I said at town hall meetings—I can tell you, it got me in a lot of trouble—is, I told them, you know, it would be one thing to see a conspiracy to alter the records in the official office and birth records in Hawaii.
But to go back and to change two newspapers' reporting of the births of babies at the hospital, that would be pretty tough to pull off. So, it is complicating, the fact that—his international parentage, and that works out to be some questions, I guess, that are raised.
But really just we need to have people look at the facts and see that
the newspapers reported that. Just like, in the old days, when I was born
I was—I'm just a little bit ahead of the president—it was announced in the paper that you were born.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
INGLIS: And so that's pretty good evidence that he was actually born in Hawaii, I should think.
MATTHEWS: I mean—
INGLIS: And we should settle that question and move on to the really hard things.
MATTHEWS: Do you realize—well, I'm sure you have thought it through a bit, because you've had to confront this—that that would require someone to believe who actually believes that they made up this guy's identity that, way back in 1961, 50 years ago, somebody sat around and said, let's have a kid. Let's have him born to an African father. Let's make it as possible as possible to be elected president. Let's make sure he has a name like Barack Obama.
MATTHEWS: And then let's try to get him elected president in about 40 or 50 years.
I mean, it's so crazy, it's got to be paranoid.
Let me ask you about the 14th Amendment. One of the prides of the Republican Party coming after the Civil War was to pass the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment, which gave, you know, freedom and citizenship and voting rights, at least federally, to African-Americans after they were freed as slaves, after hundreds of years of free labor, basically.
And now the Republican Party, led by people like Kyl and, oh, Lindsey Graham, and even Grassley and McCain, are out there saying, let's get rid of that 14th Amendment, as written, because it allows people born here to become automatic citizens.
Well, it's the way I became a citizen. I was born here. That's how I got to be a citizen. I didn't go through any paperwork. That's the way you probably became a citizen. Most African-Americans have been here so many centuries, nobody would challenge their citizenship.
But what is it about? And how can you change it? I don't even know how you could rework it, because you never know who the father is in most cases. It could be anything that the mother says, whoever the father is, if it was a matter of citizenship.
INGLIS: Yes, that's a good point, that you would have to prove paternity and maternity is easier to prove because the baby was just born. But the—you know, I think what we need to first acknowledge is if you can change this, it is a constitutional change. I've heard a fancy legal argument that you don't need to change the Constitution. But it is a very fancy legal argument.
Since I'm a strict constructionist, I want to read the words of the Constitution and apply them. Those words clearly say, if you're born here, you're a citizen. So, if you want to change that, you got to change the Constitution.
And the thing that I hope we go very slow on is not getting to the place that Western Europe has gotten, which is that people can't ever quite become citizens if they've come there in a low socio-economic status, they can never quite breakthrough. And as a result, you have this underclass that is constantly gunning for the upper class. That's not the American model.
What we want is, you're here. You become a citizen. That's what we want. We don't want you to come in here and stay for a while.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
INGLIS: We really want you to become a citizen. I guess (ph) there are a lot with us.
MATTHEWS: I can't resist asking this. I got to ask this question. If we had about a million Heide Klums trying to cross the border, the Mexican border of the United States, you know, the gorgeous blond from Germany or whatever, do you think that would be a problem with immigration right now, or is it really just ethnic? The people from a different ethnic background.
If Heidi Klum, by the million, was trying to cross the border, I figure a lot of guys would be down there welcoming her personally. What's your view?
I want to make this a little ludicrous because I think it's obvious it's ethnic. And I want people just to admit it.
INGLIS: Yes. I think there is clearly something else going on here. It's happened before. You know, the Irish were discriminated against because of a different religion or different slice of that religion.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
INGLIS: But you know, it's really interesting here is that compared to Western Europe, we've got a pretty great situation. There's nobody that strapped a bomb on themselves from Mexico and blowing themselves up and taking out Americans. They want to be Americans. They want to be a part of this.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
INGLIS: They got the same religion. They got the hope of becoming Americans. It's a very different scenario than a lot of people face.
Now, we do need to have control of the border. We do need to have an orderly process. We can't accept everyone coming here all at once. I can't have everybody over in Greenville County to my house tonight for dinner. It would destroy the house.
INGLIS: So we got to have a way of controlling this. But we should look at—compare ourselves to Western Europe and say, "Wow, we're in great shape compared to them."
MATTHEWS: Yes or no, sir? Have you given up on the Republican Party?
Yes or no?
INGLIS: No. I think that there are people that are capable in the Republican Party leading it throughout, for example, Jeff Flake, a very credible conservative. Then we've got Jack Kingston, for example. Hope you have him on.
MATTHEWS: Sure.
INGLIS: He's the guy with the right kind of approach.
INGLIS: And then, you know, we got the road map for America's future.
This is a plan that can actually work. I mean, we got people with plans.
MATTHEWS: Paul Ryan is going—he's working hard at that. I'm not sure I know all of the elements yet, but I think I got at home (ph) to study.
But thank you, sir. Congressman Bob Inglis of South Carolina, thanks for joining us on Friday night here.
Up next: Today's job report wasn't great news for anybody, especially in the White House. But at least the Democrats are doing something about it. Nancy Pelosi is bringing back Congress next week for a special session to try to save about 300,000 state and local jobs. We'll talk about that and what the Democrats are doing about this unemployment problem in this country which is not going away—when we come back.
MATTHEWS: We'll be right back. Well, the Democrats are going to bring the unemployment numbers down, or at least holding them.
HARDBALL—back after this.
MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL.
Well, the unemployment rate for July, as most of us know right now, is 9.5 percent and stuck there. And right now, public service jobs are hanging in the balance. Ten thousand state jobs were lost in the month of July alone and 38,000 local jobs—that's 40,000 public sector jobs have disappeared basically in a month.
Congress is coming back next week to try to pass a bill that's going to save, it's going to cost $26 billion. But it's going to try to save 300,000 public service jobs to offset the other losses.
Democratic Congressman Gary Peters of Michigan is a member of the financial services committee.
Congressman, give me a case for why the Congress comes back next week.
Are you saving jobs, creating jobs, or what?
REP. GARY PETERS (D), MICHIGAN: Well, I think we're both. We're certainly saving jobs and making sure that the economy gets going so that we can move forward. And the bill that we're going to be voting on is going to be keeping some critical jobs, particularly teachers and education. We're at a situation right now where 140,000 teachers may be laid off. Or some can be brought back, which is very, very important for us.
Long-term from an education standpoint, we want to make sure that our children continue to get the quality education necessary for them to be successful in the future. And if we lose those jobs, that's just going to be another further hit to an economy that is still very fragile. We're starting to see some positive growth, as you know. We did have, on a positive note, 70,000 private sector jobs growing.
But we need to make sure that we continue this progress forward. To step back would be very, very damaging to the economy.
MATTHEWS: I was listening to FOX News network coming in the car this morning. And I heard some questions raised that whether the extension of unemployment benefits was keeping the unemployment rate high. Is there any connection? Or is that crazy?
PETERS: That's crazy. There's no question about it. Unemployment helps families that are just struggling to hold onto their houses in order to put food on the table. But it's also an economic stimulus, because one thing that economists all agree on is that every dollar of unemployment paid represents about a $1.60 of economic activity.
And, certainly, in a place like Michigan, right now, with over 13 percent unemployment, the money is critical, not only for those families, but critical for our economy as it's slowly starting to improve. We're seeing the auto industry recover. Slowly but surely jobs are being added.
But to have people who are completely without resources to keep their families together would be catastrophic. So, it's a critical stimulus for the economy.
MATTHEWS: OK. Here's the problem, Congressman. Now, the latest polling shows that people blame President Obama more than they blame George W. Bush for the economy. Isn't that going to be a problem coming in in November that the party in power is now paying the price? Whatever you inherited, the public is now blaming you.
PETERS: Yes. And we got to keep focused. You know, certainly, we want to remind people that when we came into office, when I came as a new member back in January, this economy was hemorrhaging 700,000 jobs a month were being lost. We were frightened.
Now, we have, actually the last seven months, we have added to jobs. We've got to continue that. And that's why we've got to push things like small businesses. We've got a small business lending bill, for example, that the Senate Republicans are holding up. It's something that is absolutely critical to create jobs—
MATTHEWS: Yes.
PETERS: -- in a critical area which are small businesses, and the Republicans are arguing about how many amendments. We've got to forget how many amendments are on a bill and we've got to focus how many jobs are related to this bill.
MATTHEWS: Thank you, Congressman Peters, for coming to us from Michigan. That's for being with us on a Friday.
NBC's David Gregory, of course, is moderating "Meet the Press," has a big show this Sunday.
It seems to me this unemployment rate coming on Friday a bad news.
It's just a huge story.
DAVID GREGORY, MODERATOR, "MEET THE PRESS": You know, as you were talking, I was thinking about this election is simple, this midterm race. Government is on the hook. That's the question. Is government working or is it not working.
Do you believe that bailing out the auto companies made the industry better or don't you?
MATTHEWS: Yes.
GREGORY: Do you believe in bailing out the banks that staved off depression or don't you?
The problem is, think about so many of these districts that are tight districts. That's where the anxiety about the deficits and government spending in many cases is the worst. The president's losing independent voters. That's why the House is in so much danger.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
GREGORY: It's really a question of that. Not all of that can be defended on the merits, some of that anxiety, but that's the problem that they face.
MATTHEWS: And the Democrats have really been in power with policy for about a year now.
GREGORY: Right.
MATTHEWS: And they're going to play for it.
GREGORY: But they brought—I mean, this is not the era of big government being over. Big government came back in a big way.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
GREGORY: It came back under George W. Bush, particularly at the end of his administration but earlier even. But when it came to bailing out, in TARP, and baling out the banks, it was there under a Republican president. But, you know, Republicans can say, look, we're going to have a break from that, we're going to find—
MATTHEWS: Pelosi, the speaker of the House, has made a decision:
bring the House back next week.
GREGORY: Right.
MATTHEWS: You've got Boehner on this Sunday. They're going to nail the Democrats for coming back and passing a jobs bill.
What's the fight going to be there because the Democrats are saying, at least we're doing something, these other guys are "no" party, these are "no" people. What's Boehner going do with that?
GREGORY: You know, I mean, they're going to argue that this is a gift to the teachers unions; this is just, you know, more government spending, government run amok. But again this is—
MATTHEWS: And you noticed that's become a very strong anthem on the Republican side. They've made a big case now. All the Democrats do is paid for the—is kiss up basically to the employee unions. Does that work with people?
GREGORY: Well, I mean, I think it may in certain parts of the country. But what the Democrats have to do—what the president is trying to do is make a larger argument, which is—look what's happening in the states. Housing crisis, services being cut, what government can do is targeted stimulus.
This is an example of that, until the private sector gets up off the mat and feels confident enough to really start investing which we're seeing from the job numbers today. The private sector is not hiring in any great numbers.
MATTHEWS: You know what's stunning is that—and you and I are probably equally stunned by it—we thought the American auto industry was on its way down over the last 10, 20 years. It was a serial problem. It's riddled with problems.
GREGORY: Right.
MATTHEWS: Now, the president's out there saying, the American car may be the number one car in the world coming in the future.
GREGORY: The problem is, how is it doing in the U.S. market, right? I mean, it's doing very well in the rest of the world.
MATTHEWS: Well, apparently, the Explorer is going to 60 different countries, the new Ford.
GREGORY: Right.
MATTHEWS: And that's good news.
GREGORY: Absolutely.
MATTHEWS: The country's just not in the mood for good news?
GREGORY: Well, but it's also, are the jobs—look how many jobs have been lost. And even though they've recouped some—
MATTHEWS: Yes.
GREGORY: What, you know, what's the future look like in manufacturing? I mean, these are some of the bigger questions that our economy faces.
MATTHEWS: Looking at all the numbers, you look at Charlie—I should say Charlie Crist, we just had him on—Charlie Cook and the others and Chuck Todd here, when you look at all the numbers, do you this—do you buy this theory that as goes the House so goes the Senate? Or could we see a divided result Tuesday night on election night and say, House may have lost or state Democrat very narrowly, Senate still a Republican—still a Democrat.
GREGORY: Yes, I tend to be—I tend to think you could have that split result. And I know Chuck Todd and others believe if it's a wave, it's going to carry it all. I'm not sure I'm there on that.
MATTHEWS: I agree with you on that. I think—I think—I see this
it's a tough one. The Republicans would have to win like 12 seats basically, gross wins and maybe lose a couple. It's a tough one. They have to win 10 seats.
David Gregory, good luck. Sunday, Boehner?
GREGORY: And Carol Browner, too, about—is the crisis over in the Gulf.
MATTHEWS: Well, there's 1 million barrels still out there in the Gulf.
GREGORY: Yes.
MATTHEWS: Anyway, when we return, opening hearts and minds to same-sex marriage.
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MATTHEWS: Let me finish tonight with that ruling in California this week on same-sex marriage. I'm reasonably confident that years from now, this ruling will be viewed as anything but exceptional. I said it because young people, meaning young adults, don't see it really as an issue.
Judge Vaughn Walker has ruled this is a matter of liberty as the guaranteed by the American Constitution. The 14th Amendment says that a U.S. citizen cannot be denied life, liberty or property without due process of law, that citizens are entitled to equal protection of the laws. There you have it.
Are people—are they not at liberty to marry someone of the same sex? Does the Constitution's protection of liberty include the right to choose your marital partner? Do people of the same sex have the right to equal protection of the laws?
Well, the Supreme Court will end up deciding this matter. If the case falls the thinking of the Lawrence case from 2003, which declared sodomy laws unconstitutional, we can expect to see an affirmative or certainly a close decision whether to uphold this district court decision.
I know that the president opposes same-sex marriage. I know that many Americans of good character do, as well.
Let's face it: this is new territory for many people—too new territory in which to make a judgment.
What would be good for the country is to judge this matter wisely, fairly and with a strong degree, I think, of compassion. That would be wonderful. Perhaps it will take a few more years to make such a dramatic move as to declare a person's right to a same-sex marriage.
What I'm for everyone who can to look at this with a fresh perspective. It is, like so many questions, not as much a matter of morality or religion, as we may think it is at first. It's a matter not for the church or synagogue as for the law. My church opposed divorce, still does but acknowledges, I believe, the existence of laws that permit it.
Maybe this is not a matter to be decided in the heat of an election campaign. Maybe this is not the stuff of TV debates and 30-second ads and bumper stickers. Maybe—and let's just say it here—a matter not for loud voices but for the mind and heart and for the best judgment of what America, this exceptional place, really means.
This country founded perhaps uniquely but not just on life and liberty
but yes, on the pursuit of happiness.
That's HARDBALL for now. Thanks for being with us.
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60 seconds with Marcus Brookes on the end of China's longest bull market
The Chinese stockmarket has been hit by a significant correction after a meteoric rise. Marcus Brookes, Head of Multi-Manager, takes a look at what triggered the gains and the subsequent weakness.
The rise and fall of Chinese shares
China's stockmarket has been hit by significant volatility, but the preceding bull market phase, during which Chinese shares rose around 150% over 935 days, was around five times longer than the average in Chinese history.
The bull market looks like it has come to an end. China's stockmarket has now fallen around 20%, and is now considered to be in bear market territory.
What has happened?
Retail investors were encouraged to invest in the stockmarket by the Chinese government which had been trying to wean them off Chinese property. Take trading account openings for example:
- In 2012 and 2013 there were around 10 million account openings across the two years.
- In 2014 again around 10 million.
- In the first five months of 2015 alone, another 10 million.
Investors were also often using debt to finance their investments.
Steep valuations
We think the reason why retail investors were being encouraged to do this is partly to do with valuations, which were cheap.
Chinese valuations are now looking pretty expensive, around four times pricier than the US market, where stock valuations also look relatively high.


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I have a confession to make. As you may or may not know, I've spent most of this year making pillows. At first I was testing Mari's candle mat patterns and turning them into pillows, because candle mats and busy two year olds don't really mix! Then I moved on to a Dresden Plate design for Gifty Galore, then I messed with one of Mari's candle mat designs and made a big pillow (bigger than I expected anyway), and then . . . well . . . then I just kept going. And yes, I have a pattern in the works for more sunflower pillows!
I guess I've developed a little bit of a pillow mania. There I've said it.
So now I want to share my mania with you! I've challenged everyone at Connecting Threads to make a little pillow. There aren't many rules to this challenge. There are no prizes, this is just for fun. I drafted some easy directions on how to finish the back. Most of us are using the 12″ x 16″ travel pillow (this is a free pattern). What I did was make a 12″ x 16″ mini quilt – backed and quilted. Then, before adding the binding, I sewed on an envelope-style pillow backing.
Envelope Backing: For the 12″ x 16″ pillow I cut two 12″ squares. For a different size your measurements will be the shortest side of the quilt by 2/3 of the longest side plus 1-1/2″. Cut two of these.
Press a 1/2″ to the wrong side across the shortest edge, then fold and press 1″ to the wrong side. Stitch close to the first fold and repeat on the other back piece.
Now pin the two backing pieces, right side up, to the back of the quilt matching the raw edges. The finished edges should overlap in the center of the quilt. Baste in place. (Yes this is my pillow for the challenge – You'll have to wait to see the front.)
Finally add your binding as usual with a 1/4″ seam allowance. I cut my binding 2-1/8″ or 2-1/4″ wide to accommodate the extra fabric.
These pillows can be quick and easy to make or ridiculously complex (I know my colleagues). Size is completely optional. Really, the only rule is that it has to be done and ready for "show and tell" at our department meeting October 24th, 2013.
What do you think they will make? Join us if you dare. If you want to share pictures of your pillows, email your photo to our marketing director and she will put it up in the blog post when we show off everyone's finished pillows after October 24th.
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Figuring out that this is the latest WiiWare release to be ported from the iPhone isn't too hard to do — Robin Hood: The Return of Richard is decidedly "mobile" in its look and feel. The subtitle would have you think it's somehow story-driven, perhaps a small RPG or adventure game chronicling the period near the end of the classic Robin tale when the good King Richard finally comes home from the Crusades. But, no luck there. There's hardly any story at all, as this is just a simple shooting gallery.
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It's once and always Stanley Cup Champion Washington Capitals hockey, all day, all night, all the time . . . or when I get around to it
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Oh my dear lord...
We gotta wear this crap?
Here's a tip...have EITHER a logo OR the name of the city, but not BOTH. Make up your mind...
Not even the players look especially happy at the prospect of donning these duds.
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Alastair Fox, ISAF Events Manager said, "The ISAF Sailing World Championships is a key event in world sailing and second only to the Olympic Sailing Competition.
"To have so many sailors entered already is excellent news for Perth 2011 and we expect many more to enter as we prepare for the championships."
Perth 2011 Event Director, John Longley added, "It is a pleasing number of first round entries and we are right on track to reach our expected number of 1,400 athletes and 850 boats from at least 80 nations."
Cadiz (ESP) hosted the inaugural championships in 2003 with 71 nations represented. In 2007 Cascais (POR) welcomed 76 nations. And Perth are well on track to break the nations record having already received applications from 72 nations.
The Perth 2011 ISAF Sailing World Championships, taking place from 3 to 18 December 2011, will bring together past and future Champions as titles are decided in the ten Olympic sailing events.
The regatta is one of the great events in the world sailing calendar. It is a key qualifying event for sailors aspiring to represent their country at the 2012 London Olympic Games, as 75% of the national Olympic places will be decided in Perth.
Seven of the 72 nations entered so far are newcomers to the ISAF Sailing World Championships. ISAF and Perth 2011 are pleased to welcome the Cook Islands, who are sending entries in the Laser and Laser Radial.
Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Montenegro and Trinidad and Tobago are each sending one entry into the Laser class. St Lucia will have a representative in the Laser Radial and Palestine has entrants in the Men's RS:X and Men's 470.
Out of the ten events, the Laser has the most entries with 113, followed by the Laser Radial with 92 and Men's RS:X on 75.
MNAs can still earn more places based on the 2011 ISAF World Rankings and also through the ISAF Qualification Commission.
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Tuesday, August 02, 2011
ToxBank and SEURAT-1
The first half year of the ToxBank EU FP7 project (co-founded by Colipa; I think I am legally required to mention them, and I am happy to do so either case) I am working on (50%) has giving me mixed feelings. ToxBank has a great team of people (and great names in the other cluster project too!), and I am quite happy about the results we made. What results, you may ask. Well, indeed: they exist, and nice results too! It's just that they are not so visible.
That is the part I am less happy about: legalities. It took months for the consortium agreement to get finalized, and then there is a cluster agreement for the whole of SEURAT-1. Information is monopolized, and there is a general scare to accidentally release information which others may claim IP. It slows us down; it inhibits new collaborations and thus serendipity. Naive and idealistic as I am, I say this is bad for science.
But, the community is positive about Open nowadays, one achievement of the gold Open Access journals, I guess, and we hosted a workshop on Open Data recently too, which was well attended. People realize that openly sharing data has a role in science (see also this post).
Anyway, the goals are great of SEURAT-1. There now is an official website, and I am pretty sure I am not disclosing any trade secrets. SEURAT (Safety Evaluation Ultimately Replacing Animal Testing) has as ambitious goal to make animal testing obsolete. The ultimately is there to reflect this will not happen any time soon, but at least we die trying (this is also why there is a -1 in the name... there may be follow projects, as outlined in the Vision and Strategy). Of course, that following up makes Open Source and Open Data important, in my personal opinion. Fortunately, more and more people share that opinion. I hope my direct and/or indirect contributions to ToxBank can set an example.
The title of the -1 project is "Towards the replacement of in vivo repeated dose systematic toxicity testing". So, that will be more or less the focus of the ToxBank data warehouse. The types of data will be very diverse, and includes many areas of the omics space, including my favorite: metabolomics. To allow a systems toxicology approach, a short list of test compounds will be established. As part of ToxBank we have set up a Semantic Web system, allowing these compounds to be part of the Linked Data network. However, here comes the legal stuff again, and the wiki is not generally accessible; only to SEURAT-1 member (more precisely: will be very soon).
And that makes it impossible for me to start call in the community to run that favorite tools against these compounds. For example, to calculate solubilities in various solvents. That is information useful to our compound evaluation, and would contribute to the SEURAT-1 project! But I cannot do that right now :(
But, we're just 6 months into the five year project. I think we'll see a lot of firework later! The hurdles may slow us down, they will not mean we will not reach what we want.
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- Anonymous4:13 PM, August 02, 2011
I am not sure what you are saying Egon.ReplyDelete
Yes, the Toxbank data is open and downloadable, or no it isn't and nor will it be, or maybe but not yet? Or it might be if we talk nicely to all the lawyers from all the partners? :)
My sympathies on the contracts. I once walked away from participation in an EU project that had an IP agreement saying that the 30 partners shared all IP emerging from the project in proportions to be decided by negotiation and no partner could use any of the results without first getting agreement of all 30.
The agreement stated that this was to promote commercialisation of the outputs.
Look forward to hearing how you get on ...
> Yes, the Toxbank data is open andReplyDelete
> downloadable, or no it isn't and
> nor will it be, or maybe but not
> yet? Or it might be if we talk
> nicely to all the lawyers from
> all the partners? :)
Well, I am not sure what the answer is at this moment either. So, let's go for 'maybe, but not yet'. Seriously, things are looking more optimistic than a few years ago, I would say. I'm fairly optimistic!
> My sympathies on the contracts. I
> once walked away from
> participation in an EU project
> that had an IP agreement saying
> that the 30 partners shared all
> IP emerging from the project in
> proportions to be decided by
> negotiation and no partner could
> use any of the results without
> first getting agreement of all
> 30.
Hahaha! Yeah, that sounds like a recipe for slowing down things :)


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Archive for the 'barnyard golf' Tag
Barnyard Golf or Love Making?
After my City Grazing double-take last week, I wouldn't have guessed another groovy neighborhood discovery was lurking so closely. Having lived in my hood for about 15 years, it's rare to come upon something entirely fresh, within a few block radius…let alone something on a grand scale. The northeastern tip of Golden Gate Park alone is rife with history, but I thought I had covered pretty much every path. El wrongo!!!
Well, around noon today, I headed out on my lunch break to practice a monologue for my callback in the out-of-doors. What other show is better suited to a rustic park setting than Hair? Me thinks there isn't one. I knew it would help put me in the right state of mind, and help my characterization of hippie leader Berger take flight (hopefully).
I wandered onto a narrow dirt path just off the paved walking path winding down from the intersection of Fulton and Stanyan, and hung my jacket on a eucalyptus branch. Just as I was preparing to start, I discovered someone sitting quietly on a nearby bench and writing, so I continued my search for an empty glade. Our homeless neighbors also love this region of the park, so I figured I would likely have a few of them as an audience. Maybe they could even offer some hippie tips?
I walked up a dirt path that branched off to the left of the main path, where I had never gone before. It's always looked like a vehicle path for the park worker's use. As I came around the bend, a stone wall and some steps became visible. Once even closer, a huge cement courtyard opened up before me, with a giant 20-or-so foot wide horse sculpture on the opposing wall, formed by a natural cross-sectioned hillside about 50 feet high. The inside of the horse sculpture had crumbled away, leaving only the outer features and details. This gave it a real feeling of antiquity…although, I was pretty sure I hadn't just uncovered a lost ruin.
Frankly, it was the perfect site not only for my personal run-through but would be just right for an entire production of Hair (I'll get on that)! It became clear from multiple vertical metal rods (and the horse sculpture sealed the deal) that it was for horseshoeing. However, it was in such shambles and disrepair, it felt haunted. I could easily imagine countless romantic trysts, late-night drug-induced adventures, and homeless encampments here. In fact it's been counted as the Number 18, in "Best Place to Make Love in Golden Gate Park". A "For Screamers" category is even included…although this locale didn't make that list.
These "Horseshoe Pits", as they are called are also on the National Register of Historic Places in San Francisco, noted with the year 1922. And, to be exact, there are 16 pitching courts of this largely out-of-fashion game, also referred to by the nickname "Barnyard Golf". I'm hopeful for the sake of this landmark alone that there is a burgeoning horseshoe following. The Golden Gate Horseshoe Club website reveals that this court is used for periodic special annual events, but most likely not regular weekly or even monthly use. Since there is a well kept, grassy horseshoe court down near Stern Grove, it doesn't appear the city can fill up and upkeep more than one court, with its largely aging fan-base.
Not surprisingly, I discovered online that a skate park had been proposed for this area, a perfect usage of the space, in my mind. But, apparently the poor site lines, thanks to surrounding hills and trees, were deemed less than ideal, since it would be inhabited largely by youth. That park has instead been (or will be) built at an Upper Haight, Waller Street site.
The book "San Francisco's Golden Gate Park: A Thousand and Seventeen Acres of Stories" by Chris Pollack & Erica Katz helped the big picture of this locale's history come together. The courts construction was in 1926 (later than the National Register record above), and the GGHC tended the courts. Previously it was a rock quarry, from which San Francisco streets were built.
The two concrete bas-reliefs, created on the face of the largest rock formations, include the horse, but also "The Horseshoe Pitcher", a sculpture by Jesse S. "Vet" Anderson, who was a member of the GGHC, and a cartoonist and caricaturist for the Detroit Free Press.
"The sculptures had been overgrown and long forgotten but were revealed in 1968 by Youth Corps volunteers…The hill above the courts rises 384 feet above sea level to what was once a 100,000-gallon water reservoir that doubled as an aquatic garden for irrigating the Panhandle and nearby park areas. This hill has been known by many names: Mt. Lick, Plateau Hill, and Reservoir Hill.
The site was further developed, in 1934, as a Depression-era Works Progress Administration venture; hand-hewn stonework was laid to define the court area. The work included a raised gallery for spectators and a star lined with large red rustic boulders from Conservatory Drive East."
Hmmm, a game of Barnyard Golf anyone?! I'll leave the GG Park lovemaking to you and yours!


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