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Editor's note: Julian E. Zelizer is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. He is the author of "Arsenal of Democracy" and a book on former President Carter and editor of a book assessing former President George W. Bush's administration, to be published this fall by Princeton University Press.
Princeton, New Jersey (CNN) -- In an extraordinarily powerful moment last Monday, a middle class mother named Velma Hart confronted the president for whom she had enthusiastically voted.
During the town hall, Hart expressed to President Obama her deep frustration with the current state of affairs: "I've been told that I voted for a man who said he's going to change things in a meaningful way for the middle class. I'm one of those people, and I'm waiting sir. I'm waiting. I just don't feel it yet . . . I need you to answer this honestly: Is this my new reality?"
With this simple question, Ms. Hart articulated a feeling that is shared by millions of Americans who are growing more desperate for our current economic situation to change.
There is good reason for people to be anxious. The economic recovery has been sluggish. Although the National Bureau of Economic Research concluded that the recession ended in 2009, the reality of an unemployment rate that still hovers at 9.5 percent belies such optimism. Many of those who have been fortunate to obtain a job or to keep their existing positions feel as if they are barely hanging on to keep up with their financial obligations.
What makes the situation so troubling is that the basic problem is not the recession. The problem is that the economic insecurity of the middle class has been increasing for several decades.
Yale political scientist Jacob Hacker, both in a study that he developed for the Rockefeller Foundation as well as in a book entitled "The Great Risk Shift," has documented the gradual erosion of economic security that has taken place.
Hacker defines the economically insecure as those Americans whose available household income has declined by at least 25 percent in one year as a result of falling wages and/or rising medical expenses, as well as those who lack a financial safety net.
Hacker's findings are shocking. Economic insecurity has steadily increased since the 1980s. The intensity of the swings in family income has doubled over the past forty years.
The possibility that Americans will suffer through a drop in their income of 50 percent or more over a two-year period has increased significantly (from 3-4 percent in the 1970s to almost 10 percent in 2004).
Parents are struggling to provide for their children and their parents, while the number of Americans declaring bankruptcy has grown. "The rising prevalence of two-earner couples," he writes, "does not appear to have provided a big income cushion to families."
The number of companies offering workers a defined benefit pension has dropped from 80 percent in 1980 to under a third. Worse yet, each economic recovery is weaker than the one that came before. With every downturn, Americans are forced to adjust to a "new normal" characterized by diminished expectations.
There is no single cause behind these changes. Rising medical and educational costs have squeezed families whose incomes have not risen accordingly. The amount of debt that Americans hold hampers their ability to achieve stable long-term financial conditions, while many emerging jobs don't offer good benefits or employment security.
Globalization has weakened many of our key industries and allowed businesses to produce goods in other countries with cheap, non-unionized workers. Many of the best jobs have gone abroad, while technology has rendered other positions obsolete. In Slate, James Ledbetter recently wrote about the end in growth of one of the nation's iconic jobs -- the salesman. No other occupation has experienced as sharp of a drop as sales has in recent years, a job that was the fastest-growing occupation in the period between the 1950s and 1980s.
Public policy is to blame as well. The value of cash benefits that the government provided to Americans who are in difficult conditions has shrunk. Many benefits have not been updated over the past few decades so their value has diminished as well. Although the overall wealth of the country has risen, regressive fiscal policies that started with the tax cut of 1981 have helped to skew wealth toward a narrower segment of the population.
Neither party has yet developed viable solutions to change this new reality. Last week, Republicans responded by unveiling an agenda that centers on tax cuts, a policy which will do little to alleviate economic insecurity.
Thus far, Democrats have taken a more aggressive stance. Most important, Congress passed a health care reform bill aimed at containing the cost of insurance premiums and preventing insurers from easily dropping beneficiaries. But huge questions remain about how effective the health care legislation will be at controlling costs -- a central concern for the middle class.
If the cost controls don't work and the regulatory structures prove to be feeble, the legislation will not achieve its prime objectives. Furthermore, on its own, health care reform is not enough to reverse the underlying challenge our nation faces.
If the nation is serious about responding to Velma Hart's complaint, and we should be, the government and private sector will need to generate much bolder ideas than anything currently on the table. This will require public-private partnerships that can stimulate investment and research in new economic areas that will allow us to compete in international markets.
The U.S. must look for the kinds of public investment that took place in the 1940s and 1950s, when government and private funds, combined with entrepreneurial genius, fueled the high technology sector and resulted in rapid development in areas such as the Silicon Valley in California and Route 128 in Massachusetts.
Improving economic security will also require smarter investments -- as well as reforms -- of our primary educational system so that we are training the best and brightest. Some of our nation's finest public universities are being badly damaged by the current cuts in state funds and will need to be revitalized.
The sad truth is that even when this recession officially ends, the economic pain felt by millions of middle class Americans won't go away. This is our new reality and one that has been building for decades. Restoring the security that middle class Americans enjoyed in the 1940s and 1950s -- fighting a war for economic security -- must be our central goal in years to come.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Julian E. Zelizer.


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MONTREAL – The Eastern Conference semifinal series between the Canadiens and the Pittsburgh Penguins has been reduced to a one-game, winner-take-all affair.
The Canadiens parlayed two goals by Michael Cammalleri, a timely return by defenceman Jaroslav Spacek, an unlikely game-winner from Maxim Lapierre and another solid performance by goaltender Jaroslav Halak to beat the Penguins 4-3 Monday night.
That knots the best-of-seven series at three games apiece with Game 7 scheduled for Wednesday night at the Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, CJAD Radio-800).
Lapierre gave the Canadiens a 4-2 lead with a great individual effort at 11:03 of the third period. He picked up a puck in the neutral zone, used his speed to beat Alex Goligoski down the left side and then cut in front of the net to beat Marc-André Fleury.
That goal proved to be crucial because Bill Guerin deflected a shot by Sergei Gonchar to bring the Penguins to within a goal at 18:36. Halak made 34 saves as the Canadiens staved off elimination for the fourth time in this year's playoffs.
The Canadiens were being outplayed by a wide margin when they scored two goals in a span of two minutes and 31 second to grab a 3-2 lead in the second period.
Cammalleri scored his second of the night when he took a pass from Andrei Kostitsyn and beat Fleury at 10:45 to tie the score at 2-2. Cammalleri is the leading goal-scorer in the playoffs with 11.
Jaroslav Spacek gave the Canadiens a 3-2 lead when he scored on a shot from the blueline at 13:15. Spacek, who had missed nine games with an undisclosed ailment, was a last-minute addition to the lineup after coach Jacques Martin decided that Hal Gill wasn't ready to play. Gill, who was cut on the back of his left leg in Game 5, participated in the morning skate and the pregame warmup before being scratched.
Penalties were the Canadiens' undoing earlier in the second period. Montreal killed off a holding penalty to Lapierre as Halak made three saves and had the hockey gods on his side when Sergei Gonchar and Evgeni Malkin hit goalposts.
But Roman Hamrlik was called for interference 20 seconds after Lapierre returned to the ice and Montreal native Kris Letang scored at 5:21 to snap a 1-1 tie.
Cammalleri opened the scoring when he combined with Tomas Plekanec on a rush at 1:13 of the first period. Cammalleri passed to Plekanec in the middle and then took a return pass on the right wing and beat Fleury with a one-timer high on his glove side.
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Monkeyface prickleback
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Giant green anemone
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Acorn barnacle
Acorn barnacles, related to shrimp, hide their identity in snail-like shells. But they begin life as free swimming larvae. When the time comes to settle, the larvae "glue" their heads to hard surfaces, such as pilings, wharfs, ships, rocks or other hard-shelled animals.
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- Our Wave Crash gallery pumps about 600 gallons of water and "crashes" every 30 seconds. That's more than 500,000 gallons per eight-hour day.
- The walk-through tunnel in the wave crash exhibit is one of the most popular family photo spots in the Aquarium—timing your shot is part of the fun.
- Galleries within the Rocky Shore get raw seawater at night; during the day, the water is filtered to provide a clearer view.
- The concept of intertidal "zones" was first described by Monterey biologist Ed Ricketts in his landmark book, Between Pacific Tides, which also influenced the design and layout of the entire Aquarium.


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After getting up at silly o'clock (hello to you 4am), and taking the short flight to Germany, Big Deaks and I met up with my Qatar Hero, the mighty Stoffers, Abby, some Polish lads, and Damon from the Real FA Cup. Our pre-arranged meeting place was also the venue for the majority of FC Union fans to gather before the match. The first fire cracker was let off just after 10am at the Alexanderplatz Station. That woke us up.
Our €16 match ticket was good for all public transport in Berlin from the moment we landed until the time we called it a day on the post match beers - twelve hours after the game. That is the way to do it.
The trains were obviously packed, but we squeezed on one and pitched up at a pub next to the stadium. At the bar and getting in a round of beers was none other than, self proclaimed red-headed "sexual icon" Mick Hucknall from Simply Red. Buying some Berliner Kindl Mick? I thought money was too tight to mention. He certainly wasn't holding back the beers.
German efficiency wasn't perhaps quite what it should have been in and around the Olympic Stadium. There was just seven turnstiles to cope with 20,000 (20,000!) away fans and the queues were enormous. Once inside, you had to negotiate your way past a corridor full of riot police dressed up as stormtroopers and then try and find your seat. Easier said that done that. All the ultras had pushed their way down to the front and the gangways were jam-packed with fans. The only access out was via an 8 foot drop over a wall. Good job I hadn't downed as many pre-match beers as Hucknall. Any sort of visit to the latrines was virtually impossible.
We sighed when Hertha took the lead with the helping foot of Christian Stuff who bodged an attempted clearance straight into the path of Andre Mijatovic. He then chipped an inch perfect pass to Roman Hubnick who nodded Die Alte Dame (The Old Lady) into the lead with his noggin. It looked at that stage that Hertha were going to run riot and notch up a routine victory.
Against all logic and reason, FC Union then turned the game on its head providing plenty of fight and spunk. First to rip up the form book was John Jairo Mosquera who controlled the ball with his arm (whoops) before lashing an unstoppable volley in the top corner. The Union fans celebrated by letting off a whole bunch of flares. This is what I'd come to see. Granted, I had to cuddle about six different strangers in the stands during the celebration, but the place was absolutely rocking. Fan-favourite Torsten Mattuschka's scored the winner with a wicked free kicked that bounced over the keeper. Scenes of unbridled joy filled our end of the stadium. The ultras used a seasons worth of flares in one game. They probably hadn't banked on using more than one, but this was worth it.
In my experience, they couldn't give a rats arse about anything in German football grounds aside from singing their hearts out and necking as much beer as is humanly possible. And that's just the stewards. Not today though. Normally, they sell Carlsberg inside the Olympic Stadium - not the bland, watery UK stuff, but the proper Danish version - in handy litre mugs. For this game, all that was on offer was non-alcoholic beer. Probably a good job. The match kicked off at 1pm and there was an eleven hour pub crawl around the Eastern parts of Prenzlauer Berg and Friedridchshain on our agenda for the evening.
There was no trouble at the match. At one stage the Hertha ultras produced a banner declaring "Football culture takes its path. Your cult is for sale as well" to annoy the Union fans, but it didn't work. It was a reply to Union's train tifo in the previous derby between these two. Union remains one of the most non-commercial, old fashioned and authentic clubs in Europe though, so they just laughed off Hertha's banner and carried on celebrating.
This match had the feel of an old Merseyside derby - before that particular game became a bit sinister. Fans did sit side-by-side, and without a hint of any animosity. Fans of both sides partied long and hard after the game. Next weekend, Union's Under 23 side play against Dynamo Berlin. That's a full on rivalry and predictions of trouble at that match are very real. This may be first and last time Hertha take on Union during a regular season as their paths aren't likely to cross again with the Blue-Whites set for promotion. I'm glad I was there though. There was some talk of the match being a fix afterwards. Absolute nonsense. Nobody will forget the score though. Not least because 24 hours later, "FCU 1-2" graffiti was already popping up all over Berlin. There is power in the Union. Prost!
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Tamsen Franklin
posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 9:08 pm
I have a two class GMM and I'm examining auxiliary variables using du3step for continuous variables and de3step for binary variables. The de3step output shows 999.00 for the mean, S.E., chi square and p-value for binary variables where the proportion of 1's is less than 10%. What does this mean for my analyses?
I also used du3step to analyse differences in proportions for binary variables between classes. All the chi square tests that were significant in de3step became non-significant. Does this suggest a problem with my de3step analyses or model?
Bengt O. Muthen
posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 2:37 pm
You should use Mplus version 7.11 and try the DCAT/DCON options. See Version 7 of Web Note 15 as well as the Version History section of our website.
Tamsen Franklin
posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - 6:09 pm
Thanks for that. Can I use the base model of 7.11 for the DCAT/DCON analyses, or do I need to have an add on?
Bengt O. Muthen
posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - 6:57 pm
You do GMM, so you need the base and mixture add on.
Tamsen Franklin
posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 7:20 pm
Thank you for your help with this. I tried to run the DCAT/DCON analyses using 7.11, however it did not work because I am using data with sampling weights (which I did not mention in my initial post). Given this issue with my data, do you have any further suggestions for how I could look at differences between my two trajectories?
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 9:32 am
The WEIGHT option cannot be used with these options. If your entropy is .8 or higher, you can use most likely class membership.
Mike Todd
posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 11:11 am
I'm trying to implement the Lanza approach in an LPA model with a continuous distal outcome ("TotPA" in this case), but I'm not sure I'm setting up the syntax properly.
I tried the following specifications:
AUXILIARY = TotPA(DCON); statement under the VARIABLE command, along with MODEL command statements setting associations between latent means and TotPA at 0 (e.g., C1#1 on
;) and labeling TotPA's mean and variance (e.g., [TotPA] (1)). This failed to run, returning an error message indicating that TotPA was an unrecognized variable.
Same as (1) above, but without the fixed and labeled parameters. This ran and gave me class-specific means and the omnibus and pairwise between-class tests of differences among/between the means. In this analysis, can I assume that the auxiliary variable didn't affect estimation of the latent class part of the model?
Bengt O. Muthen
posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 11:28 am
TotPA should not be in the model, so not on the USEV list. You should think of "auxiliary" as outside the model.
Caitlin Turpyn
posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 12:47 pm
I am examining an auxiliary continuous distal outcome variable in an LPA model. The automatic 3-step process (DE3Step and DU3Step) returned the previously mentioned error with 999's for the means, S.E.
The Lanza (DCON) method was successful. However, I am interested in controlling for covariates such as gender and age. Is there any way to include control variables?
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Thursday, January 23, 2014 - 10:19 am
No, this is not available.
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|Public to foot bill for Jat Airways debt
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 09:06
This is what we call a Good Business Plan Mabye the Ceo of Croatia Airlines Kucko can Learn something from Ceo of Air SerbiaReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 11:13
is that sarcasm?Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 09:12
Dane je zavrsio fakultet za to a Kresimir Kucko je ko covek sa ulice postavljen na to mesto.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:59
Not only that, but he has international experience with quality airlines and companies - Qantas, British Airways, Malaysia Airlines and Etihad - not to mention with tour operator Kuoni and IT company Sabre. I don't think any of his peers in the region can say this ...Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:23
Nije da je Kučko neki stručnjak i da mnogo valja, ali odakle vama ideja da čovijek nije završio fakultet? Pa po hrvatskim zakonima ne možeš obnašati takvu funkciju bez fakulteta.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 09:21
Has anyone noticed the ridiculous fares that both JU and OS have between Belgrade and Vienna? Perfect example of duopoly. Argh...ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:00
Yes i have! I have booked a flight VIE-BEG-VIE for 190EUR! Austrian for the same date 480 EUR! Today the same route also with Air Serbia 330EUR, the flight is in two weeks! If you want a cheap price you have to book one month earlier! But it is shamed, if you think that fly niki has prices between 60-100 EUR on the same route before there cut the route!!!Delete
Actually, if you want to find a more decent fare on Austrian then book it via lh.comDelete
This February Austrian had a fare for €481 on their website but it was €239 via Lufthansa's one.
Air Serbia was €231... fail. At least with Austrian you get to fly on a jet or a Q400.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 13:18
You are saying OS was 239 and JU was 231, so how is that a "fail" for JU? I don't see a logic there. Or is it that you used to support JU before and now you don't?Delete
Well, Air Serbia sends its Atr to Vienna which is much cheaper to operate than the Fokker birds. Plus, I am sure Austrian's overall cost is higher than the JU one, yet both of these airlines charge the same price between these two cities.Delete
Even though I like the Atr, it's much noisier and less comfortable than the Fokkers. One would expect JU to be cheaper.
So... logically speaking, people would go for OS rather than JU.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:32
Opšte je poznato da je OS uništio JU na liniji za Beč. Kao prvo, ima vise frekvencija, ima jaku bazu te nudi vise mogućnosti za presedanje a kao što je Nemjee već spomnuo i cene su im približno iste.Delete
Letovi sa JU su dobri za njihova presedanja ali OS je vise gasterbajter-friendly sa onim letovima oko 15.00 i 18.00. Kao što je ovde već spomenuto, JU letovi sa Erbasom ili Boingom nemaju više od 60 putnika što je katastrofalno.
Pozz iz Beograda
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:43
Austrian Airlines has three flights today one is with A320!Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:20
cesto letim na toj liniji! Austrian je skoro uvek bio jeftiniji od JU zato je vecina letela sa OS! E sad, u zadnje vreme se cesto desi da JU ima jeftinije karte! Meni je bitno da je karta povoljna, a kad su cene iste onda cu opet pre leteti sa JU, jer OS jeste stvetska kompanija, ali je JU nasa, i takodje nemam lose iskustvo sa JU!Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:21
p.s cene su ocajne!!!! Za ovaj komentar za 60 putnika, ni OS nece imati jos malo mnogo vise, jer sa cenama karte od 440EUR! Ipak neleti se za JKF nego BEG!! PozDelete
- JATBEGMEL17 December 2014 at 22:25
a za 50€ moze se autobusom do Beca, 6 sati voznje do Erberga sa Sava Centra.Delete
A sto je vec i receno, pre Nikija, karte su bile oko 250€+, sa Nikijom 9.500 din, a sada...strasno.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 09:42
Thank god there is finally one media outlet that figured out this is predominantly about Jat's debts. If blind hatred could be packed and exported Serbia would get rich overnight with all the comments left on various portals yesterday.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:02
158 milijuna = javni dug koji će Srbija platiti bankama, NIS-u, nabavljačima, aerodromima...ReplyDelete
16 milijuna = otpremnine za višak zaposlenih u Jatu platila Srbija
0,5 miliijuna = otpremnine za višak zaposlenih u Jat Cateringu
23 milijuna = postupak restrukturiranja (objavila podatak i preuzela vlada)
43 milijuna = postupak premošćivanja gubitka (objavila podatak i preuzela vlada iako nikom nije jasno što je to zapravo)
73 milijuna = enorman minus koji je nekim čudom nastao tijekom 2013. i preuzela ga je Srbija
14 milijuna = direktne subvencije u 2014.
7 milijuna = otpisao BEG u prvoj polovici godine
7 milijuna = plača CEO i senior managementa u 2014 temeljem ugovora Etihada i Srbije
= znači do sada 451 milijun EUR
+ 25 milijuna subvencija Srbije u 2015.
+ 25 milijuna subvencija Srbije u 2016.
= preko 500 milijuna
+ bog te pitaj hoće li BEG otpisati još koji milijun kao što je to učinio u prvoj polovici godine
+ Srbija je unijela vrijednost zrakoplova, slotova, uredskih prostora, hangar, ostale imovine…
+ odricanje svih prihoda od kerozina kod NIS-a (ovime se daje privilegirana cijena Air Serbiji spram ostalih prijevoznika u BEG, ali i država se odriče enormno visokog prihoda)
+ veliki popusti na BEG i ne plačanje dobrog dijela troškova na BEG (i opet će to netko morati snositi da bi BEG mogao funkcionirati)
+ Etihadu se plačaju leasing aviona
+ Etihadu se plača školovanje posada, i bog te pitaj što još i po kojoj cijeni
+ tko zna koliko nakon 2016. poglavito radi uvođenja širokotrupaca.Replies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:15
Purger, ove dve stavke uopste nisu tacneDelete
+ Etihadu se plačaju leasing aviona
+ Etihadu se plača školovanje posada, i bog te pitaj što još i po kojoj cijeni
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:15
You gotta spend money to make money. The whole plan is for JU to become a profitable carrier. So what if the government has to spend some to make it viable?Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:20
Alternativa je bila sledeca: Pustiti sve niz vodu, otkaz za 2000 radnika, nepostojanje lokalne avio industrije i Wizz Air kao nacionalni prevoznik koji nije placao dadzbine aerodromu i leteo kao Madjarska firma iz Beograda.Delete
Ili uloziti nesto i napraviti nesto sto ce na duge staze imati vrednost.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:27
Ако се не варам, запослени у Визу имају мађарске уговоре, не српске. Свака част Демократској странци.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:34
Would be easier to close JAT and open new company. This way we got company that will be returning its invest 500 years if profits stay the same as projected this year, around 1 mil euro. This is too much for an airline, and when will AirSERBIA start to pay for services at BEG? Or do we have to pay another 500 mil euro for new terminal, because it won't be built from operational revenue?Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 10:38
Even if you closed down JAT you would still have to repay its debt. And what would you do with a new airline set up by the government? They would put a moron as CEO, you would run into the same problem, you would loose all your slots, IATA, ICAO codes, loose all international agreements. Etihad pays for abosultelty everything except for old debts and the obligation the government made in the deal which is public. Half of the things Purger wrote are not true like paying for aircraft and training, which is completely false and he based on I don't know what. Also, remember who got JAT out of the deal with Airbus for 8 aircraft. Have you created a new company you would still have to pay for it.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 11:12
damn thats a lot of moneyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 11:46
Does anyone know for how long will state will allow for not paying airport services and for how long will fuel be cheaper? Is it defined in contract, or do we have to pay for it alongside with 25 mil for subsidy? I mean, tickets are now cheaper, but do we have to spend millions on company that will make most traffic from transit passengers (foreigners)? I know it will boost revenue of BEG through taxes and commercial services (shops and etc.) but I still think it's too much.Delete
And what will happen once ASL fuel and handling privilegies? More expensive tickets and drop in number of pax? And millions of euros for mediocre company?
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:00
Dvije upitne stavke od njih 30 je "pola toga nije točno"?Delete
I da, Air Serbia plaća leasing Etihadu, a platila je i školovanje Etihadu u Abu Dhabiu, te Air Berlinu (Etihadovoj firmi) u Njemačkoj (kao i preuzeđenja aviona). Obzirom na iskustva sa plaćama top managementa koji uopće nisu definirani nego navedeni kao "pošteni", te hitnost školovanja i nabavke ti troškovi niti su mali, niti su na razini tržišnih cijena, nego vrlo vjerovatno daleko iznad. Zato i jesto to tu dodatno napisano, a ne kao dio investicija koje se gore spominju.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:01
This is Jat's debt, and Serbian Govt. agreed to take it over as a prerequisite in order to sign the deal with Etihad and create Air Serbia.Delete
While nobody is happy about that much money paid by taxpayers, what would be alternative? That is the price paid for incompetent, politically appointed previous managements of Jat Airways. I would love to see the investigation of the dealings of all Jat's CEO's from 2000 onwards, most of them deserved to spend some time behind the bars for negligence and mismanagement.
But that's up to the courts.
So in order to sell such a loss making airline for decades, you would have to sacrifice something (a lot of money in this case). But we would continue to pay that money anyway shall Jat continued to exist in previous form and make losses.
At least that has stopped, and Air Serbia is on the way to start making profit soon.
As of some comments from our friends from Croatia, prepare yourself to take the very same steps if you want to sell OU to anyone, and if you find the interested investor because they will request the clear sheets, and some creative accounting popular across our entire region will not be allowed.
Great day to anyone!
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:05
Voleo bih da mi pokazes dokaz da je Air Serbia placala trening posade i iznajmljivanje aviona. Ja ti kazem da nije, a malo sam vise upucen u celu ovu pricu nego neko ko se nalazi u Zagrebu. Druge stavke ti nisam ni sporio.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:21
Neznam sto narod nesto izmislja kad nezna I NIJE UPUCEN ko i ono da placa EY posadu a ne placa je .Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 13:52
Srbija je bila izdvojila 6,5 milona eur za otpremnine a potrosila duplo manje od tog iznosa, odakle 16milona??Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:17
Nevjerojatan si lažac. Ali nevjerojatan.Delete
Najpre nam poturaš da je (158+16+0,5+23+43+73+14+7+7) = 451. U stvarnosti to iznosi 341 milijun, fulao si tek za nekih 110 milijuna.
Potom to sve prezentiraš kao iznose u EUR iako je večina službenih brojki bila objavljena u USD.
Ali ono najgore od svega - i to si več ko zna koji puta učinio - je da si iste vrste troškova ponovio po dva ili tri puta kako bi napuhao svoj proračun na neke silne stotine milijuna i potom im još dodao 110 milijuna kao bonus.
Za tvoju obavijest, gubitak od 70 milijuna u 2013-oj (koji ti nazivaš nekakvim "čudom") obuhvača onih 23 milijuna iz restrukturiranja i 43 milijuna premoščenih gubitaka. Dakle, 67 milijuna si namjerno udvostručio.
Dalje, 14 milijuna direktnih subvencija ne postoje. ASL ne dobija nikakvu živu lovu od države več dobija oproste na aerodromu i na into-plane diferencijalu kod NIS. Buduči da si te oproste naveo zasebno, ovih si 14 milijuna jednostavno izmislio.
Leasing ZRAKOPLOVA (a ne aviona), školovanje posada i plače senior managementa plača ASL iz svojeg tekučeg poslovanja. Ništa od toga ne plača država tako da tu imamo još 7 milijuna koje si izmislio a potom im dodavao neke buduče stavke koje su potpuno besmislene.
Kada podvučemo crtu, tvojih 451 milijun prvo postaju 341 jer ne umiješ računati. Potom se tih 341 umanjuje za još 87 milijuna koje si izmislio ili navodio po 2-3 puta u svom proračunu kako bi napuhao brojke do neke razine koja bi zazvučala poput kakve senzacije.
Tako nam ostaje 254 milijuna od kojih se 174 odnosi na čiščenje dugova Jata koji su svakako morali jednom biti očiščeni, potpuno nevezano uz Etihad.
Na kraju vidimo da se iz tvog čitavog proračuna na potporu ASL odnosi 80 milijuna (73 milijuna gubitka u 2013-oj i 7 milijuna otpisa na BEG u 2014-oj). Pri tome se gubitak iz 2013-te odnosi na ASL samo u posljednjem kvartalu dok se u prva tri kvartala odnosi na Jat.
Tvoj proračun je hrpa laži koju si več ranije prosipao ovdje i trebalo bi te biti sram zbog toga.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:24
@ INN-NS:Delete
ASL je iznajmljivala (po komercijalnoj ceni) pilote od Air Berlina kako bi premostila rupu koja je postojala u periodu obuke njihovih pilota za A319/A320 (koja je, opet, rađena u Berlinu). Takođe im je nedostajalo pilota zbog velikog povećanja operacija. Mislim da još uvek imaju neki mali procenat iznajmljenih pilota ali će vremenom sve popuniti svojim ljudima. Logično je da su iznajmljivali od Air Berlina jer je u pitanju drugi član EY "familije" koji je pri tome rezao troškove i verovatno imao višak pilota.
Dakle, nije nikakav skandal nego je potpuno normalna stvar što su u jednom periodu letele iznajmljene posade. Onaj ko od toga pravi skandal je zlonameran ili glup, ali ništa pametniji nije onaj ko mu na to vrišti kako nikakvog iznajmljivanja nije bilo. Pre nego što kreneš da "braniš" ASL, raspitaj se malo o stvarima koje ti striko i Dodik možda nisu ispričali.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:17
Dobro kolko je to onda? Dvestapedeset miliona? Pa čoveče znaš li to koliko je to? Za što? Da se Bugari preko Beograda voze na moj račun u Nemačku. A nema se za plate i penzije. De ba, steram ja i Jat i na Air Srbiju. Neka mi srede železnicu da mogu da odem do Leskovca ko čovek a ne avione kojima može u ovoj državi da leti 1% stanovnika.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:19
Nije bas toliko pogresio ;) samo kad je kopirao tekst sa drugog foruma nije iskopirao 100 milona koje krstio kao "investicije". To je onaj novac koji je Srbija morala da uloži kao i Etihad.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:21
Anonymous 3:17, evo, potpisano danas, dobices i voz, zadovoljan? ;)Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:56
A tko će da mi da platu. Radim i sretan sam kad dobim 250 EUR (ne baš svaki mesec), a ovde se govorio o 250 miliona. Ko da smo Amerika. Za što. Za avione sa kojima lete Bugari, Grci, Rumunji, Izraelci, Albanci, Hrvati, Mađari, Libanonci, Kiprani... ma idi breDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:54
Sav taj novac tih Bugara, Grka, Rumuna, Albanaca itd. koji su dali pare za kartu id Air Serbiji, to jest Srbiji. Moras nesto da das da bi nesto dobio. Setimo se kakvo je TK bio s*anje pre samo 15-tak godina, i sta je danas. Smucili ste mi se vi i vase pateticno kukanje o tome kako vi morate da dajete novac od svoje plate kako bi drzava vratila dug. Ali da mi se smucilo. Onda bi sad rekao:"Zasto bi mi davali kad politicari kradu". Sami ste izabrali te politicare koji su na vlasti da budu na vlasti, pa samo kukajte i prebacujte drugima, to je oduvek bila najlaksa opcija. To sto je Srbija zemlja sa najmanjom prosecnom platim u Evropi znaci da ne treba da ima nacionalnog avioprevoznika? Znaci da ne treba da ulaze u nesto da bi to sutra bilo isplativo? Znaci da samo treba da sedimo i cekamo da nam zemlja skroz propadne pa da krivimo politicare i ko zna koga? Znaci da treba da cekamo da se desi cudo, da ocekujemo vece plate a da nista ne preduzmemo/zrtvujemo za to? Ma mnogo smo mi Srbi gospoda, svi bi vece plate a ne bi da daju 20-tak evra od svoje trenutne pa da se skupi novac, vrati j*beni dug, pa da imamo nesto prfitabilno i isplativo u drzavi. A ti sedi za kompjuterom, pisi ovakve komentare i kukaj sto imas platu od 250 evra. To svako moze ;)
Uradi nesto u zivotu umesto sto serem po blogu o avijaciji, jer se u pomenutu ocigledno ne razumes ni malo.
A idi kukaj tako na b92.net ili kurur.rs u komentarima, ljudi su tamo dosta famozni po pateticnim komentarima. Cao.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:17
Anonymous at 2:24 PMDelete
Gde sam ja naveo da nisu od AB ?
A i neznam sto je Purger to gore pisao kad on nece ni jedan Euro dati iz svog dzepa drzavi Srbiji koja ce to iskoristiti za ASL kad je on drzavljanin HR.
- Anonymous18 December 2014 at 17:39
Cudno govore ovi iz "juzne srbije" :) 4:56Delete
Preuzimanje duga bivseg JAT-a jeste preuzimanje obaveza drzave, pod cijom upravom je napravljen ceo dug bivse kompnije naslednice AERO PUT-a koja se zvala JAT-(airwats). Kada je drzava vlasnik, gubitak kompanije placaju poreski obaveznici. Kada je privatna kompanija gubitnik, tada posao gubi menadzment, opada broj zaposljenih, prodaje se deo kompanije, cela ili bankrotira... U ovom slucaju dzep poreskih obaveznika ostaje nedirnut... Ova vlada ocigledno postavlja ekonomoju sa ostalim u tom kontekstu na svoje mesto. Sve sto se proglasava nacionalnim interesom, a ne stvara profit, placaju obaveznici poreski naravno. Kada se povecava porez zbog gubitaka, tada su najglasniji pristalice nacionalnih interesa. Ideologija je mekinje za narod a pojedince pretvara u licemer i siri socijalnu hipokratiju. Zdrav biznis jeste privatan biznis koji je pod kontrolom adekvatnih zakona. Srbija ide napred a putnicka avijacija jeste Prime exsample kako dalje. Posledica pogresne strategije politike, valja ljude, a djepove ostavlja prazne. Drzavu brock... Svako penjanje uz planinu je tesko. Srbija ce se preporoditi. Er Srbija utrostruciti!ReplyDelete
Rodney, Airports & Aircrafts. Kraljevo /// Sydney.
- Mariborka17 December 2014 at 11:19
OT: ExpressAirways (from Maribor) wants to fly from Bremen, Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden, Dortmund, Düsseldorf and Leipzig to Brac and Split. They already started selling ticketsReplyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 11:38
I really don't understand something. JU 800 always departs on time but it comes back with a two hour delay! What are these fools in AUH doing? Don't they know how to turn around an aircraft?!ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 11:56
kafica i trac partija. take it easyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:27
Yes but it creates chaos with connecting passengers and aircraft rotation in Belgrade.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:51
EY delays into AUH hence waiting for transit pax from all over EY network... can't blame JU here, rather the perils of large hub ops at AUH.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:52
I think it's not even about being a large hub, just a disorganised hub.Delete
- JATBEGMEL18 December 2014 at 00:41
When JU800 was departing just before midnight in the summer (2355), the unofficial delay was so that crew were not payed for 3 days work but rather 2. JU crew are still payed in the old Jat system of flight allowances, which means a certain amount is payed per flying day (0000 - 2359). This delay is always made up inflight.Delete
As for the return (JU801), the organisation in AUH doesnt seem the best, 1 flight I did, the flight was fully boarded 25 minutes before STD but a delay from EY ground staff delivering flight documents resulted in doors being closed 10 minutes after STD. Add pushback, taxi time and hold at the runway, we landed 15 minutes behind STA in BEG. My next flight (JU801) was delayed as the computers were slow to respond during the boarding process for a full flight, making the boarding longer to complete. Neither did I find it impressive the Arab guy (prob Egyptian) asking his colleague (who was probably Indian) if he spoke 'that' language (Serbian). In question was if a wheelchair bound pax who didnt speak english was able to climb stairs as like always the ac in AUH is always on remote stand, which as well took a few minutes on it self to accomodate.
Oh and the security screening in AUH is a horribly frustrating experience to put it nicely. No sense of urgency to accomodate pax on tight connections to fast track the security line (which was for flights which had already started boarding - my case with 5 others bound for BEG), resulting in arguing with staff. I am yet to have an AUH flight that departed or landed in BEG on its scheduled time. Nothing over 30 minutes, but 12:15 is 12:15, not 12:30, not 12:20, not 12:35, but 12:15.
JU crew onboard and airside do a great job, are friendly and know their job. Land side (ie check in)...it makes me miss the old Jat staff!
- Anonymous18 December 2014 at 02:41
"Land side (ie check in)...it makes me miss the old Jat staff!"Delete
Reminds me of Qatar, 5 stars in the air, 2 stars on the ground.
Thanks for your detailed comment.
Wizz Air arrived from Larnaca this morning with 142 passengers, 82% full! Fantastic!ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:51
WOW! Hvala! To bi bio skoro pun JU A320!Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:15
Wow, Nemjee is becoming a Wizz Air fan boy,all purple!Delete
Hahaha I am not, I only fly them to Cyprus because it's more convenient, as I posted in my other posts. As far as my other flights go, they are either on JU or other legacy carriers. :)Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:50
We love you Nemjee any way you are! :)Delete
Haha love you too. <3Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:40
Nemjee vi bas volite LCA +1 =DDelete
Pa ziveo sam na Kipru 14 godina. :)Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:49
YU-APH (A320) went to IST!! Does anyone have the loads?ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 12:54
Swiss is also sending its A321 to Belgrade today!Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 13:26
Holidays are starting, gastrosi arriving, upgauges will happen between now and Orthodox ChristmasDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 13:29
Both LX flights tomorrow are A321Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:29
TK will send an A320 to BEG tomorrow, perhaps today as well.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:07
i dont know why....only 35 to ist, and 46 back to begDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:16
Is that on JU you're speaking?Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:48
^ this guy is giving false loads!! Nobody would send airbus 320 with such loadsDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:19
Turkish does not have smaller plane than a319/a320Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 13:24
For me this was a first article in a long time I didn't read, ditto for most comments. Yawn. Starting to look like 2009.ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:35
you cant handle critical articles about your beloved country. nije sve sjajnoDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:09
None of this is news if you were paying attention to this topic over the last 12-18 months. Yawn, back to sleep.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:22
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:08
Danas je Rojters objavio da je Rublja devalvirala za 20 odsto i da ljudi čekaju u redovima da zamene Rublje u Evre i Dolare.ReplyDelete
Evo neki dan se tu vodila rasprava. Kako će to da utiće na nas? Mislim krediti, pa letovi za Moskvu, pa ruski kapital, pa Rusi kao jedna od 3 najveće turisičke nacije u Srbiji, pa NIS i kerozin za Er Srbiju...?Replies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:11
Русија је постала још јефтинија за странце тако да Ер Србија може ту групу да привуче.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:27
Devalvirana RubljaDelete
= manja kupovna moć Rusa = manje će Rusa da leti i u turizam = nije dobro za nas
= slaba Rublja = problem sa investicijama i sadasnjim kapitalnim investicijama = NIS i druge ruske investicije u Srbiji u problemima
= preskupa nafta koja se ne isplati da se vadi = manje ruske nafte = NIS u problemima
= kreditna linija staje = što ako će opet da zatreba za penzije i plate, odakle?
A Europa i Amerika pamte. Pamte tko nije stao iza njih u Ukrajni, gdje se Putin šepurio na vojnoj paradi, kako se nije htelo da se podrže sankcije...
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:41
Glupost do gluposti.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 14:34
Nije bas toliko pogresio ;) samo kad je kopirao tekst sa drugog foruma nije iskopirao 100 milona koje krstio kao "investicije"ReplyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 15:48
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 16:50
A few facts that seem to have been lost in all of this:-ReplyDelete
1. The accumulated debt of JAT would have had to have been paid, irrespective of any strategic investment in the airline. If it had of gone into bankruptcy, the taxpayer would have had to pay this debt - so the taxpayer is no worse off.
2. If it had of gone into bankruptcy, 2000 people would've gone into unemployment.
3. it didn't and now people are still employed, new people are being employed and everyone is paying taxes and contributing to the state bgt
4. The airport has doubled the number of people passing through it and the value of the airport for any future privatization has more than doubled
5. As for the leasing of aircraft, all 10 airbus have been leased through BBAM and CIT - NOT Etihad. A simple check with either of these 2 lessors will confirm this.
6. Etihad's entry into JAT ensured that the USD23.8m deposit paid by the old Yugoslav govt to Airbus in 1998 has been rescued and offset against the purchase of new NEO aircraft. Most importantly, it also ensured that Airbus did not pursue a USD500m lawsuit against the govt of Serbia for breach of contract after they did not go forward with their purchase of aircraft.
7. All training of pilots was done by airberlin at commercial rates - not at some inflated rates.
It obviously suits some out there to continue with this misinformation.Replies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:09
to add: it's clear who is placing misinformation.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:19
1. That is not true. In case of bankruptcy it would be paid from slots, planes, buildings... if that would be not enough it would be not paid.Delete
2. And who are people who were paid for lost a job? So not just few did lost a job! And pilots and crew could find jog in Wizzair or some other company, not like most of workers who did lost job in Serbia and no one give them money to stay on job.
3. Good. So government will do that in all other industries?
4. Privatisation is not possible because of huge discount Serbia has as obligation by contract with Etihad. New owner for sure doesn't want to give those discounts, and Serbia does not have money to pay for that.
5. Good, why than A6 registrations and maintenance in Abu Dhabi?
6. Not true.
A6-SAA was leased from Etihad
A6-SAB also leased from Etihad
7. Again not true. Some crew were trained in Abu Dhabi, some in Air Berlin as part of Etihad "help" to his company in deep trouble. Prices were much more than regular because it was "last second" deal. And in same time crew from Etihad and Air Berlin fly on Air Serbia also not for regular price
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:24
6 = 5Delete
and 6. So Serbia could for same amount of money buy those planes and than sell it to someone, or sell and lease back tham. Or get deal to buy ATR's or something else. No, need for Etihad to be involved. And for sure that is not reason to get into that huge investment, much bigger rhan those 28 millions of deposit or some other millions as fee (and for sure it is not half of billion, what is much more than 6 planse price is)
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:27
Prvo Anonymous tvoje pisanje je tipićno Vučićevsko izvrdavanje istine. Ili lažeš ili iskrivljuješ podatke jer misliš da neće da se nađe izvor pravih informacija. Svakodnevno se to dešava po internetu. Armija ljudi je zaposlena na tome da iskrivljuje istinu. No ako laže koza ne laže rog.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 17:53
Jedini koji su ovde zaposleni da iskrivljuju istinu ste ti i ovaj u 5:19 PM. Možda da probate da vodite svoje političke bitke i kampanje na nekom političkom blogu? Ovde ljudi pokušavaju da razgovaraju o avijaciji.Delete
@Anon at 5:19PM:Delete
OMG here we go again, zombie h8trs are back. All of this has been rectified before, so let's protect our brains from hungry zombies once again:
1. "if that would be not enough…" LOL tiny word "if" proves you have no idea you are talking about. Rewind 12 to 18 months and see how almost penniless old JAT was during its deathbed days. There is no IF!
And then you continue "…it would be not paid". WTF?!?! This is NOT how it works! Do you have any idea about financial guarantees?!? GoS would be left holding the bag!!! This alone proves you have no business discussing this topic! But you want to be humiliated all the way, so be it:
2. WTF how could have (in case of a bankruptcy) JAT pilots just step out from 733, casually walk over to Wizzair and get A320 job?!? Do you have ANY idea many had a hard time switching to Airbus even though extensive paid training was provided to them?!?!
3. This is an airline blog, we are not going to dissect every other topics.
4. What?!?! Totally wrong, privatization is possible! New owner does not have to give any discounts, contractually that would be GoS to take care of! Just bake it into a contract, what's the big deal? And WTF do you mean "Serbia does not have the money to pay for that"?!? Well they just took responsibility for that.
5 & 6. What A6 registrations?!?! Air Serbia does not have any A6 registered planes, you have been asleep for a looong time. Look at the links you provided to tell you the current state. And what's your problem with maintenance in AUH? That's C check, other stuff is done in BEG. Do you even care to think about C and D check capabilities, or even how many EU and US carriers outsource similar jobs to low cost MRO's around the world? Didn't think so.
7. You have a hard time separating "pilot" from "cabin crew" or "management" training. What was done by AB and what by EY? You have no idea, don't you?
There...feels good to take out another zombie h8tr...
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:19
AnonymousDecember 17, 2014 at 5:19 PMDelete
Ko si dasi dosdio si.
Isto i ja tako kazem CTN nece naci kupca i to je istina.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:33
Did you at letast try to check thos pages to see that they were leased to Air Serbia by Etihad. Now they don't have A6 registration, but they did have A6 registration. But still it was leased by Etihad. Please do open those links.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 20:24
Everyone knows that Air Serbia had fleet shortage inherited from JAT and could not immediately get all 10 Airbus planes. Etihad initially assisted with those two A319 including the pilots. That was not a secret and planes were reregistered long time agoDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 20:57
And now, just to flip everyone on their heads, Air Serbia is currently wet leasing an aircraft to Etihad, which operates the BEG-AUH-Muscat route !!!Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:01
Is it me or has JU added additional flights to BNX? There is a flight currently going as JU 104. I don't recall there being any evening flights.ReplyDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:21
Anonymous at 5:19 you must be one of the useless ex-JAT employees that got fired and now can't stand to see Air Serbia flourishing.ReplyDelete
Second, your ''facts'' are wrong...
A6-SAA, now YU-API is leased directly from BBAM. The period you are talking about was the interim solution until JU pilots were trained to operate YU registered aircraft. It is the same case with ex-SAB - now YU-APJ.
This is an aviation blog, not a political tabloid, give it a rest and vent your frustrations elsewhere and lets the rest of us enjoy aviation in its glory.Replies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:35
BBAM lease those planes to Etihad and than Etihad to Air Serbia. Why? Think about it. For sure for less money or just to make more administration.Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:54
Sad gore lupate nego ja evo ko placa leasing za YU-API - YU-APJ iDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:39
dali neko zna kolika je bila jatova flota u najbolje vreme?ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 21:25
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 23:42
Negde krajem osamdesetihDelete
-B727-200 9x
-B737-300 9x
-DC9-32 15x
-DC10-30 4-5x (2 svoja)
-ATR42-200 3x (lease?)
Sve u svemu oko 40 aviona...
Bilo je i par izuzetaka (u najmu) kao:
RomBAC1-11 (Tarom)
DC10-30 OO-SLA (Sabena)
L1011 Tristar (Royal Jordanian)
Pre toga je bilo i par B707-300, zadnji (YU-AGI) je otišao u penziju u to doba pa njih ne računam. Karavele su penzoinisane još ranije.
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:45
OT: izvinjavam se za ot, ali tek sada vidim da montenegro 11.aprila uvodi liniju tgd-lys. kako to? nijednom nije niko spomenuo ili sam ja prevideo tu vest. e super, sad cemo u lion preko podgorice. bravo montenegro!!!ReplyDeleteReplies
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:50
Pa propustio si vest. Objavljena je jos juce ovdeDelete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 19:51
A spomenuli su je jos pre mesec dana ;)Delete
- Anonymous17 December 2014 at 20:07
BEG-LYS-BEG -> 192€ Not bad at all. (And it's the cheapest option!)Delete
- Aэrologic17 December 2014 at 22:59
Great move by YM!Delete
- Anonymous18 December 2014 at 10:59
Ja sam objavio to jos 14- novembra u comments:Delete
- Anonymous18 December 2014 at 11:03
a oni 21 oktobra. Ne kapiram http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/2014/10/montenegro-airlines-plans-2015-expansion.htmlDelete
Furthermore, new seasonal summer flights will include Manchester and Lyon next year.
- Anonymous18 December 2014 at 11:29
That's beacause the contract was signed the 13 november. I think before, it was only rumors.ReplyDelete
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Roses for Colorado's Front Range
Who doesn't love a rose?
A lot of consumers, who think of them as fussy, says Kent Broome, sales rep for Bailey Nurseries. Broome spoke Tuesday (Feb. 7) at ProGreen Expo, the annual confab for plant and landscaping people at the Colorado Convention Center.
And that means the people who sell plants, and the plant breeders who develop them, have a lot of educating to do.
These days, breeders are creating roses to fill a demand for cold hardy, disease-resistant, repeat or ever-blooming plants. "The new generation in their 30s, they want nothing to do with going out and slaving for hours in the rose garden."
In fact, they don't even HAVE rose gardens. And that's just fine – roses are more beautiful and look more natural among perennials, shrubs, and annuals – in short, in the landscape, he says.
That's how Broome uses them at his home at 7,800 feet close to Estes Park (where "Nearly Wild" and sometimes, "Sunrise Sunset" can handle what winter dishes out) and at a church in Lyons, where "Alexander Mackenzie," "Winnipeg Parks," and "Morden Sunrise" thrive without irrigation once established.
"There's not a better rose," Broome says of "Winnipeg Parks," developed in Canada as part of the Canadian Explorer and Canadian Parks series. "The foliage is phenomenal and it blooms nonstop."
Another favorite Canadian: "Morden Sunrise." The yellow-orange rose pauses between its big pushes of bloom. He also likes "Baby Love," a David Weeks rose. But he does advise gardeners hot to buy the latest new rose to be a little bit trend resistant, to wait and see how the latest hot new variety does, and whether it shows up in stores the following year.
"We used to test a plant for 10 years before we brought it to the trade," he says, meaning making it available to retailers and consumers. "Those days are gone." A few more proven varieties to check out: "William Baffin," a Canadian climber; "Paint the Town," (guess what color THAT one is); and "Iceberg," which Broome calls "a fantastic white."
Here are Broome's top three tips for rose aficionados:
1. Prune at the end of February.
2. Winter water if snowfall doesn't happen (yes, we're kinda tanked up for the time being — but never assume. Poke that soil and find out. Broome said he can have three feet of snow cover and the soil underneath will be bone dry.)
3. Wait until at least late March / early April to buy your roses (or take delivery on web-ordered roses). "We can always get zapped by a big snow." Broome said he's already seen roses for sale at big-box stores.
Which just tells you how crazy we are about roses. Even when we SHOULD resist them, some of us can't.