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Fear and Loathing in Pahrump Valley: Enumerators face off against people with guns and vicious dogs.Monday, April 20th, 2009
As hundreds of thousands of Census Bureau employees are now going door to door to verify the addresses of more than 300 million Americans, few people realize the physical risks that these field workers face. MyTwoCensus has called upon the Census Bureau to release statistics that detail how many Census Bureau employees have been injured/killed while on the job thus far in 2010 as well as during he 2000 headcount. While employees of the Postal Service ostensibly also face similar problems to Census Bureau field workers on a daily basis, 2010 Census employees lack the significant training and field experience necessary to deal with hostile individuals/animals/situations.
Also, as MyTwoCensus has previously reported, since Census Bureau employees lack uniforms and formal photo ID badges, they can be more easily targeted by individuals who suspect that someone is trespassing on their property. The Pahrump Valley Times, which serves Nye County in Nevada, reports:
Tony Longo, local Census Bureau supervisor, said crews don't normally have to knock on doors to verify addresses unless they have a question over additional living quarters on the property.
Longo said a couple of census workers reported dog bites. There was a scary incident at one residence, he said.
"One group was standing in the street at a house on an acre lot and it was tree-lined. He was just trying to verify if there was another unit in the back and the lady sprung out of the trees with a .45 and then her son came behind her with a shotgun," Longo said. "They were really cool once he explained who he was."

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Carlsbad's SEA LIFE Aquarium is celebrating World Oceans Day from 10am-5pm on Saturday, June 4th, with a "Seussian" Celebration! Young guests will be treated to fun and educational hands-on activities throughout the day. This special event includes crafts, two underwater readings of Dr. Seuss books by divers dressed in "Seussian" attire, and more.
Not familiar with SEA LIFE Aquarium? It's a unique aquarium that incorporates LEGOS into their theme. Check the link below for more info about this awesome destination. Click HERE for a post with pictures from one of our recent trips to SEA LIFE Aquarium. Perhaps we'll see you there!
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Agriturismo Casale di Gricciano: Business-friendly farm stay with free breakfast and free WiFi. Guests give the room size a thumbs up.
Agriturismo 4 Ricci: Family country house with free breakfast and free WiFi.
Agriturismo Tenuta Monte la Guardia: Pet-friendly country house with free parking and outdoor pool.
Antica Locanda del Cavallino Bianco: Family property with free WiFi and free parking. Located in a regional park.
Situated in a rural location, this agritourism property is 1.9 mi (3 km) from Etruscan Necropolises of Cerveteri and 5.3 mi (8.5 km) from Marsh of Torre Flavia. Port of Civitavecchia and St. Peter's Square are also within 32 mi (52 km).
Situated in Cerveteri, this country house is within 9 miles (15 km) of National Museum of Cerveteri, Etruscan Necropolises of Cerveteri and Bambino Gesù. Castello di Palo and Marsh of Torre Flavia are also within 12 miles (20 km).
Situated in a rural location, this country house is within 9 miles (15 km) of Lungolago Beach, Castello Odescalchi and Lake Bracciano. Spiaggia dei gabbiani and Italian Air Force Museum of Vigna di Valle are also within 9 miles (15 km).
Situated in Cerveteri, this agritourism property is 2.3 mi (3.7 km) from National Museum of Cerveteri and 2.8 mi (4.5 km) from Etruscan Necropolises of Cerveteri. Il Quadrifoglio and Marsh of Torre Flavia are also within 6 miles (10 km).
Kids grow up fast, but it's all the more reason to create lasting memories with a few good family holidays. They may not thank you now, but the mental picture of you dancing in your bathers will be one that they'll cherish forever (maybe). Find every kind of family accommodation in Cerveteri, along with car hire and package deals, with our easy-to-use online booking system. We have endless options to please even the pickiest guests in your clan.
Close to entertainment, shopping, theme parks and restaurants, our range of hotels ensure that you'll never lack places to spend time or activities to do together, whatever your budget. Cheap family hotels in Cerveteri also provide extra savings that you can use on souvenirs and matching (temporary) tattoos. Room choices here can fit any size family, whether you need double beds, a connecting door or a whole suite to keep everyone comfortable. Kid-friendly dining and activities will help make you feel welcome. And if this has the added benefit of giving you a little time to relax on your own…all the better!
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Sofia: Bulgaria's Jews during WWII
Probably the best of recent books about Bulgaria is Richard Crampton's "Concise History of Bulgaria", updated in 2005. The distinguished historian of Eastern Europe leads the reader from the Bulgarian medieval kingdom to the Bulgarian state at the beginning of the 21st century when it stood at the doorsteps of NATO and the European Union.
More than half of the book deals with the troubled 20th century. During the Second World War, Bulgaria was allied to Nazi Germany. However, it managed to resist German pressure to deport its 50,000 strong Jewish population.
Where German and Bulgarian views and jurisdiction did clash in domestic Bulgarian affairs was over the Jewish question. In October 1941 the German minister in Sofia, Beckerle, had begun pressing for more restrictions on the Bulgarian Jews. Further measures were introduced early in 1942 with a 20 per cent levy on Jewish property, the enforcement of the wearing of the yellow star, the compulsory sale of Jewish business with the proceeds being deposited in blocked accounts, and the disbandment of almost all Jewish organisations. Yet so unpopular were these measures amongst the general population that the press was forbidden to report on them immediately but had to let out the information gradually. After yet more pressure from Beckerle the sobranie [Parliament] agreed in August 1942 to pass a bill depriving Jews in the occupied territories of their Bulgarian citizenship; it was a decision which was to cost most of those Jews their lives.
After the Wannsee conference and the decision to implement the final solution Nazi pressure intensified. A deputy of Eichmann's arrived in Sofia as assistant police attaché in the German mission with the brief to implement the next stage of the final solution. True to the agreement of the previous summer the Bulgarians did not impede the deportation in March 1943 of the Jews in the occupied lands. In the following months there was much less cooperation over the Jews with Bulgarian citizenship living in Bulgaria proper, at least 6,000 of whom the Nazis had wished to deport in the first wave of transports. The question was taken up by Dimitur Peshev, a deputy from Kiustendil where preparations were being made to concentrate the putative deportees. He drafted a petition to the king which was signed by over forty deputies from the government party; Boris then forbade the deportations. In May of the same year the persecutions were fiercely opposed by the Orthodox Church and once again no deportations took place. The protests were backed by organisations representing every section of Bulgarian life from authoritarian, pro-fascist MPs to the trade unions and the illegal communist party. In the light of such strong and united feelings in the nation the king found no difficulty in standing firm against further pressure from the Nazis. The deportations never took place and Bulgaria's fifty thousand Jews survived the war.
A Concise History of Bulgaria. Richard J. Crampton. 2005.
[pp. 171-72 / Cambridge University Press]
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hen Glenn Miller and his orchestra introduced the famous song "Chattanooga Choo- Choo" in 1941, the Tennessee city it referred to had been a railroad center for nearly a century. Mack Gordon's lyrics from the Academy Award- nominated song trace the progress of the "Choo-Choo" from New York's Pennsylvania Station south to Chattanooga's sprawling Terminal Station, making "Track 29" famous. Arriving passengers were greeted by the bustle, sounds, smells, and opulence of a grand building that was a tribute to the towns importance as a southeastern transportation hub. Around Terminal Station were miles of crisscrossing tracks, acres of rail yards, and dozens of buildings that housed the industries, restaurants, hotels, shops, offices, and people of a town that evolved as a direct result of the rail industry.
Railroads both influenced and reflected American settlement and development from the 1830s to the 1950s. In the cities, they shaped and stimulated economic growth, planning, and architecture. Today, although railroads have lost much of their economic importance, evidence of their influence remains. Even in towns where trains no longer run, buildings, tracks, train beds, and place names attest to the enduring legacy of Americas rail history.
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Caroline Eddinger and her daughter Stella, 10, help operate Two Sisters Farm where a hydroponic greenhouse system is used to grow several varieties of lettuce. They sell their "living lettuce" to several area restaurants and grocers.
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Food: Area farm's hydroponic lettuce growing in popularity
Two Sisters Farm is the only commercial farm in the area specializing in hydroponics, or soilless growing, and their lettuce has been catching on around Lawrence and Johnson County since their first harvest this spring.
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After their releases on Discobelle Records, Snatch and Made To Play – Discobelle family members in Montreal duo Prince Club pay a visit to the kingdom of Denmark for their third release in year with their new "Utopia/Olivia" EP. The EP is released by our brothers across the bridge in Copenhagen based label Demento Mori.
This solid EP is packed full of bouncey house and it boasts remixes from Copenhagen locals MHM One & Dan M, accompanied by French new player Coni, Irish mad man Lorcan Mak and Hungarian powerhouse Slap In The Bass. Support from Oliver $, Brodinski, Sound Pellegrino, Round Table Knights, Bambounou, Mad Decent, Ardalan, MunniBrotherz, LOL Boys, Wildlife!, MikiX The Cat, Sinden, Poupon, Douster, Neoteric, Meati & Meech, Andy George, Act Yo Age, Playmode, Anna Lunoe etc.
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R&B star MYA has slammed rumours suggesting she and rapper Jay Z have been secretly dating behind Beyonce's back, blaming gossip-hungry bloggers for spreading the false speculation.
com on Thursday (03Jul14), and the singer, who collaborated with the 99 Problems rapper on her 2000 song Best of Me (Part 2), responded, writing, Never did, never was, never will (have an affair with Jay Z)
The Lady Marmalade hitmaker found herself at the centre of cheating allegations this week (begs30Jun14) after a blind item posted on MediaTakeOut.com hinted that she has been Jay Z's mistress for 11 years.
The online report didn't refer to Mya by name, but described the woman as a "very short-named R&B singer who hasn't had a hit in awhile", and went on to state "She basically lives off the generosity of Jay Z and a couple of other guys".
One fan asked Mya about the accusations directly via Instagram.com on Thursday (03Jul14), and the singer, who collaborated with the 99 Problems rapper on her 2000 song Best of Me (Part 2), responded, writing, "Never did, never was, never will (have an affair with Jay Z). "Illegitimate, thirsty sources with no facts and that's the 'media' for you-especially today.
I play second to no one, pay my own bills, have my own label, own management company, rely on God only and respect myself and marriage too much for nonsense.
"False rumors are crafted for ratings and numbers. And miserable, unhappy people need someone to judge to deter the attention away from their own misery and feel better about their miserable lives. If they did it to Jesus, they'll do it to anyone. God bless".
Jay Z and Beyonce have been dating since 2002 and wed in 2008.
Speculation about the status of their marriage began surfacing in May (14) after surveillance footage of Beyonce's sister Solange Knowles attacking Jay Z in a New York elevator emerged online.
A joint statement released after the "unfortunate incident" claimed the hip-hop mogul and his sister-in-law had "apologized to each other", although it failed to mention what the argument had been about.


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Mango Muffins
Total TimePrep: 15 min. Bake: 20 min.
Makesabout 1-1/2 dozen
- 2 cups all-purpose flour
- 1 cup sugar
- 2 teaspoons baking soda
- 2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
- 1/2 teaspoon salt
- 3 eggs, lightly beaten
- 3/4 cup vegetable oil
- 1 tablespoon lime juice
- 2 cups diced ripe mango
- 1 medium ripe banana, mashed
- 1/2 cup raisins
- 1/2 cup chopped walnuts
- In a large bowl, combine the first five ingredients. In another bowl, combine the eggs, oil and lime juice; add to the dry ingredients just until moistened. Stir in the mango, banana, raisins and nuts.
- Fill paper-lined muffin cups two-thirds full. Bake at 350° for 20-25 minutes or until a toothpick comes out clean. Cool for 5 minutes before removing from pans to wire racks.
Nutrition Facts1 each: 238 calories, 12g fat (2g saturated fat), 35mg cholesterol, 217mg sodium, 30g carbohydrate (18g sugars, 1g fiber), 4g protein.
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Dec 31, 2012
these muffins are delicious and easy. i was going to take some in to work to share, but they didnt last long enough between my hubby and i. i will definitely make these again!
Jul 15, 2012
As far as fruit muffins go, these were okay. I guess I was a bit disappointed because I was hoping that there would actually be a mango taste to them. Might as well have used peaches - much cheaper too.
Feb 25, 2012
I had some mangoes to use up and found this recipe. I am not a big mango fan and didn't much like the smell of them when I was dicing them up. So I did not have high hopes for these. But, they turned out great! They taste sort of like cinnamony banana bread with peaches. It took me 3-4 mangoes to make the amount called for. I made the recipe as indicated, except I did sub half wheat flour for the all-purpose flour and used a little more banana and a little less oil than called for.
May 16, 2011
Since there are only two of us now, I cut the recipe in half. Big mistake!! I thought my husband was going to 'over dose' on these. Even half the recipe makes a dozen nice sized muffins. I think I got two. He downed the rest. WINNER!
Feb 20, 2010
this is what i'm looking for. mango here goes down as low as 30.00 peso per kilo and high s 60.00 pesos per kilo.
Apr 30, 2008
It took about 6 mangos to make this recipe, which is a pretty expensive ingredient when you can't really taste them that much.


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There's been talk for a decade, perhaps more, about an overhaul of Assembly Hall, the landmark on the University of Illinois campus that will turn 49 early next month.
CHAMPAIGN -- There's been talk for a decade, perhaps more, about an overhaul of Assembly Hall, the landmark on the University of Illinois campus that will turn 49 early next month.
Former athletic director Ron Guenther floated several ideas, including the possibility of displacing the Illini for a season and rebuilding the seating configuration inside a building considered an architectural marvel by campus administration.
Hired by Illinois in August to fill the vacancy created by Guenther's abrupt retirement, Mike Thomas met Tuesday with the architectural and engineering firm hired to draw up the plans for the project after hearing the wish list from athletic department and campus officials.
"There are different steps along the way than need to be approved, but this is a very significant step,'' Thomas said. "Once we get the appropriate design in place and the acceptable funding model, then we'll be in a good place to make it reality.''
Make no mistake. The privately funded project is full speed ahead.
"The university is very supportive of this project,'' Thomas said. "It's our job to put a plan in place that makes sense and we can afford.''
Although Thomas hinted the final price tag might be lower than the estimates of $150 million speculated earlier, the meeting Tuesday was his first with the engineers. Other campus officials also met with the firm, because the building is a multi-use facility, but the athletic department would presumably get priority because men's and women's basketball are the primary tenants.
AECOM, formerly Ellerbe Becket, was hired at a cost of $2.2 million to design the plans Thomas and the university will take to possible donors to help fund the project.
Thomas had no dates for breaking ground or completion. After receiving the schematic design in late summer, Thomas would continue work on securing a major donor.
"This is something tangible we can take to the streets to get people excited about the project,'' Thomas said.
Illinois may ask between one-third and one-half of the project for naming rights. At that point, Thomas would take the project to the board for final approval.
Thomas' impending decision with the future of basketball coach Bruce Weber and the direction of the program become big news, and Thomas will likely use his strategy there to promote fundraising in the Assembly Hall project. The cost of the project makes this the biggest priority on Thomas' desk.
"I'm excited that it's in front of us,'' Thomas said.
In his meetings, Thomas will make some requests:
-- A fan-friendly, customer-friendly building at point of sale with added concession space, merchandise areas and restrooms. Enlarging the hallways is a must. Pods may be used for extra space.
"Sometimes there's more contact out in the concourses than on the court,'' he said.
Thomas and his staff have been touring other new buildings and renovations to determine ideas that work and don't work. Thomas has no desire to displace Illini basketball during the project.
-- A renovation that gives the Illini "a real home court advantage,'' Thomas said.
He wants more students close to the floor, so lowering the floor is still a priority. That would allow students to stand without blocking the view of fans seated behind them. The seating bowl may also change.
-- Premium seating opportunities. Speculation on the number of luxury suites has fluctuated from 12 to 16, although one industry newsletter suggested 20.
Club and loge seating may involve entry to a lounge outside the competition arena. Premium seating would pay for a bulk of the project.
-- The project has to have a "wow factor'' to engage fans.
"When you look at other facilities across the country, people are talking about the University of Illinois,'' Thomas said.
One necessity, he said, is air conditioning.
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RICHMOND — A section of El Portal Drive near the Interstate 80 offramp reopened Friday, more than 2½ years after heavy rains opened a mammoth sinkhole on nearby Via Verdi.
Vehicle access from the freeway to San Pablo Dam Road had been cut off since May so construction crews could replace the damaged culvert.
The $12 million Via Verdi repair project resulted from the collapse of a massive metal storm drain pipe on April 15, 2010, during heavy rains. The 30-foot-deep sinkhole swallowed cars, but no one was hurt.
The final phase of the project included the construction of a new 3,000-cubic-yard concrete storm drain.
The massive project required not only road closures but diverting San Pablo Creek.
The new box concrete culvert is about 400 feet long by 22 feet wide by 15 feet tall, according to Tawfic Halaby, Richmond's associate civil engineer.
"Now that the culvert is in place and the earth has been built back up, (we are able) to open up the southern half of the roadway to through traffic, with one travel lane in each direction," Halaby wrote in an email Friday.
While El Portal Drive's reopening will ease congestion for commuters, crews must still finish under-grounding utilities, reconstructing Via Verdi — which provides access to an apartment complex — and resloping the hillside.
Work is scheduled to be completed by spring 2013.
"Rebuilding this has been an engineering feat," county Supervisor John Gioia, of Richmond, said in a prepared statement. "But the community's really happy to see the road reopened."
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Apple sales knocked the quarter 'out of the park'
Don't start planning that funeral for the iPhone. Not yet anyway.
Apple, the maker of the popular smartphone, reported strong sales for a quarter in which analysts had expected iPhone sales to hit a slump.
Despite fears of recent softness, Apple knocked the quarter "out of the park, with iPhone sales and gross margin upticking nicely," said Brian Marshall, an analyst with International Strategy & Investment Group.
The iPhone business is healthier "than we and the Street previously expected," said Gene Munster, an analyst with Piper Jaffray, in a note to investors.
Apple on Wednesday announced quarterly sales of $45.6 billion and net profit of $10.2 billion, beating analysts' projections of $43.5 billion in revenue. The company also upped its stock-buyback program, splitting the stock 7 for 1.
"We believe our current stock price does not reflect the size of the company," CEO Tim Cook said on a conference call with analysts. The buyback shows "our strong confidence in the future of Apple."
The stock split takes place in June. On June 2, each shareholder will get six additional shares for each share held, "to make stock more accessible to investors," says Cook. The split will take effect on June 9.
Shares jumped more than 7% to $566.07 in after-hours trading. In regular trading, shares fell $6.95 to close at $524.75
FIRST TAKE:For Apple, what comes next is what matters
INTO THE FUTURE:Tech is going mobile — in a big way
The results for the fiscal 2014 second quarter are slightly up from the year-ago quarter of $43.6 billion and net profit of $9.5 billion.
"We're very proud of our quarterly results, especially our strong iPhone sales and record revenue from services," said Cook. "We're eagerly looking forward to introducing more new products and services that only Apple could bring to market."
Apple said it sold 43.7 million iPhones, 16 million iPads and 4 million Apple Macintosh computers in the quarter.
The 43.7 million iPhones beat Wall Street estimates of 38.5 million, notes Munster.
The company has been under pressure to compete with splashy rivals like those from South Korea's Samsung. The last new iPhone went on sale in September and sports a 4-inch screen, considerably smaller than newer models such as Samsung's Galaxy S5, released this month, with a 5.1-inch screen.
Consumers know that Apple historically releases new iPhones and iPads in the fall, and they tend to hold back on purchases to wait for the new stuff. But they didn't stay away in the quarter, continuing to buy the new iPhone 5s and 5c phones introduced in September.
EARNINGS:Facebook rides mobile ad sales to $885M profit
FIRST TAKE:Facebook takes on another transition as results surge
Meanwhile, Apple is also on the losing end of a battle with Google's Android platform for the hearts and minds of mobile consumers. While the iPhone remains a huge hit and cash cow for the company, Android phones are outselling it. According to researcher eMarketer, Apple's smartphone market share in the U.S. will rise to 40.5% in 2014, up from 40% in 2013, but Android will beat it at 50%, up from 49.5% in 2013.
Apple hasn't held a public event since last fall's launch of two new iPad models. In June it will stage its annual Worldwide Developer's Conference in San Francisco. The conference historically touts new updates to the iOS mobile operating system for iPhone and iPad, and the OS X operating system for Apple computers. However, the company could shift gears and release, or spotlight, new iPhones.
Michael Walkley, an analyst with Canaccord Genuity, believes larger iPhones "will create a stronger than normal upgrade cycle among Apple's loyal and growing customer base."
Meanwhile, on the earnings call, Cook revealed sales numbers for the $99 Apple TV streaming media box for the first time, saying some 20 million boxes have been sold to date, bringing in $1 billion in revenue for both box sales, and the movies and TV shows it sells from the box for viewing. Rival Roku has sold 8 million streaming boxes to date.
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Irrigation 101
Plumbing codes require a backflow preventer on many systems, including all irrigation systems attached to a drinking (potable) water supply. A backflow preventer blocks water beyond the point of connection from getting back into the potable water supply. The backflow preventer is installed near the point of connection. The point of connection is where the irrigation system is hooked into the municipal water supply.
For most irrigation systems, you will need a reduced-pressure-type device or pressure vacuum breaker. In some circumstances, an atmospheric vacuum breaker may be allowed and, on occasion, a water authority may require a double-check-type backflow preventer. However, under the National Plumbing Code, double-check valves are not allowed for irrigation use.
In order to irrigate, you need some type of emission device to apply water to the landscape. Conventional turf and landscape systems use sprinklers, although there are other types of devices available such as drip or in-line. There are thousands of different sprinklers manufactured by many different companies for use in an irrigation system. These can be categorized into general groups: bubblers, spray sprinklers and rotary sprinklers. Rotary sprinklers can be further divided into categories based on their use: residential and commercial, athletic field and golf. For this discussion, we will talk about spray sprinklers and small and medium rotors for use on residential or small commercial properties.
Types of sprinklers
Spray sprinklers are fixed arc sprinklers that throw in a spray or fan-type pattern. They have pop-up heights of 2, 4, 6 and 12 inches as well as a few others. The pop-up you select is based on what you are watering and how much clearance you need. For example, spray sprinklers in turf would normally have a 4-inch pop-up height. Spray sprinklers are available from all of the major manufacturers. They throw a maximum radius of 17 feet at a pressure of 20 to 30 psi. Water use will vary with the nozzle selected, but will commonly be in the 1- to 4-gpm range.
Rotary sprinklers are generally single-stream sprinklers that rotate. The sprinkler can be full-circle (360 degrees) or an adjustable part-circle where the degree of arc can be set. Gear-driven rotary sprinklers turn the sprinklers through a gear train with a consistent rotation speed. Impact rotary sprinklers turn due to the arm moving the sprinkler along its arc. Rotary sprinklers are available in many sizes. A small rotary sprinkler throws a distance of 18 to 30 feet operating at pressures from 25 to 40 psi. Water use is 0.50 gpm to 3 gpm, but will depend on the nozzle. Medium rotary sprinklers throw water 30 to 50 feet at pressures ranging from 35 to 60 psi. Water use can be as low as 1 gpm and as high as 14 gpm. Pop-up heights for rotary sprinklers vary, but are generally 3 to 5 inches. You also can purchase selected manufacturers' rotors with up to a 12-inch pop-up height.
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Cross to bear: Southern pride-- or prejudice?
When Lewis Dickerson pulls into the driveway of the business he owns on Harris Street, he's proud to see a symbol of his family's heritage flying overhead.
Across the street, when Jasper Bell steps out onto his front porch, he sees a different symbol, one that stands for slavery and racism, and one that's been a constant irritant to him as long as he's lived in his Concord Avenue house.
Even 137 years after General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox, the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia continues to stir strong emotions. And neither side seems likely to call a truce over this particular symbol any time soon.
An unrelenting fascination with the Civil War has seared it into our national psyche. Ten years after its release, Ken Burns' award-winning 11-hour documentary, and the top-seller in the PBS video archive, The Civil War, was re-broadcast and doubled PBS ratings.
Flag-flying Lewis Dickerson says his interest stems from family history. His "triple-great" twin uncles fought in the War Between the States as part of the 35th Virginia Calvary under General J.E.B. Stuart. Dickerson still has the obituary clipping about the 1931 death of one of them, William A. Dickerson, who was captured when his horse was shot out from under him on June 1, 1862, after fighting in the Chickahominy Swamps.
A member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Dickerson states emphatically that he's not a racist. "I don't hate anything or any creature," he says.
"Actually, everyone here is very proud of it," says one of Dickerson's Quality Welding employees, who asked that her name not be used. "We have nothing against black people. It's our heritage."
And with the controversial flag flying below the Stars and Stripes overhead, the unnamed employee says, "I think a person should have the right to stand behind what they believe in."
Dickerson says he's gotten three or four complaints in the years he's flown the flag, "all from white people." He also got a lot of positive telephone calls when he first put it up, mainly from "elderly women."
He acknowledges that some people see the battle flag as a racist symbol, but he doesn't agree with that position.
"Most black people who know me know it isn't," he says. "I have lots of black customers. If someone came from New York, they might be offended until they got to know me."
Dickerson has not met his neighbors in the African-American community across the street who are offended by his Confederate flag.
Quality Welding flies its colors.
Juanita Bowles has lived on Concord Avenue for 52 years, ever since hers was the first black family to move into that block. To her, the Confederate flag is a sign of discrimination. "I've looked at it over the years, and I don't like it," Bowles says.
What about it being also a symbol of Dickerson's heritage? She replies drily, "We noticed."
Bowles says that lots of her neighbors over the years have said they should do something about it, but no one has. "I just learned to live with it," she says.
Perceptions about how long the flag has flown vary widely. Back at Quality Welding, Dickerson says he can't recall exactly how long he's flown the flag, but he estimates around 10 years.
Says Bell, "That dumb flag's been there 34 years," the length of time he's lived in his house.
"It's annoying because I see it every time I come out my door," says Bell. "It's an eyesore when I sit on my porch."
From Bell's vantage point, the Confederate flag "goes way back to slavery, to what the South fought about."
He knows the flag is a material object that can't hurt him, but he sees a lack of sensitivity in its being flown in his face. "It looks to me like he wouldn't do it," says Bell.
The Southern Cross
The debate over the symbolism of the Confederate battle flag goes far beyond one Charlottesville neighborhood. In 2000, the NAACP boycotted South Carolina for flying the standard over its state capital.
In 1999, the Sons of Confederate Veterans in Virginia, represented by the Charlottesville-based Rutherford Institute, sued to get its own specialty license plates picturing the battle flag. The group won on appeal this year, and, as of August 31, 886 of the plates were in place on cars in Virginia.
Robert Tatum, local camp commander of SCV camp 1493 in the 19th Virginia Infantry, says the battle flag has been the logo of the Sons of Confederate Veterans since 1896.
There are a few misconceptions Tatum wants to clear up about the flag.
"It is not the 'Stars and Bars' the first national Confederate flag," he explains. Two other flags followed the Stars and Bars as flags used in the Confederate campaign.
Though it's the flag most associated today with the Confederacy, the "Southern Cross" was never the official Confederate flag. It was designed as the battle flag for the Army of Northern Virginia, the one that Lee surrendered in 1865. Other Southern armies had their own flags.
The similarity of the Stars and Bars to the Stars and Stripes led to confusion on the battlefield, including unfortunate incidents of Confederates firing upon their brothers in arms.
There was no such confusion with the Southern Cross, which is based upon St. Andrew's cross. St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland, and for many Southerners of Scottish or Scotch-Irish descent, the flag no doubt conjured an earlier heritage.
The Southern Cross gained notoriety during the 1950s and '60s when, as the walls of segregation were tumbling down around them, Southern state legislatures appropriated it as a symbol of their defiance.
The battle flag was further smeared when the Ku Klux Klan claimed it. Today the Southern Poverty Law Center reports that more than 500 hate groups use the battle flag as a symbol.
The heritage POV
The Sons of Confederate Veterans continue to maintain that the battle flag is a symbol not of racism, but of their heritage. "It had nothing to do with slavery," says local commander Tatum categorically.
Historian Shelby Foote, who gained fame through his wry, anecdotal commentary in Ken Burns' PBS documentary, says that those who see the banner as synonymous with slavery have their history wrong.
In Tony Horwitz's popular 1998 book, Confederates in the Attic, Foote describes the flag as a combat standard, not a political symbol. "It stood for law, honor, love of country," he says, and was revered by the veterans who fought under it.
Speculating about why the Confederate flag remains such a controversial symbol, UVA history professor Gary Gallagher says, "I think the reason is it evokes, for many people, a slave-holding society."
The issue becomes sensitive with whites, too. "People get upset when you equate their ancestors with Nazis," explains Gallagher. "A lot of these descendants didn't own slaves, and I don't think they're dissembling when they say they're honoring their ancestors."
The problem, continues Gallagher, is that many move on to disassociate the flag from slavery. "You can't do that," he says. "You can't separate it from the Confederate constitution, which explicitly mandated slavery."
Does that make the battle flag a racist symbol? "Well, come on," says Tatum, "that's an interpretation that has no validity."
As for those who are offended by the Southern Cross, Tatum answers with a resounding "So what?"
"People don't have a constitutional right to not be offended," he says.
As far as Tatum knows, his ancestors– whom he describes as "hardscrabble farmers"– didn't own slaves. He has a theory about why the flag remains so controversial: some groups need a raison d'être. "I think it gives people something to complain about and to raise money for," he maintains.
Scot French, associate director of the Carter G. Woodson Institute for Afro-American and African studies, doesn't think the battle flag can be separated from its revival during the era of massive resistance to desegregation. He calls the flag "very much a symbol of rebellion even against change.
Scot French
"It can be a way of expressing a connection to a Southern identity that's eroded," he continues. Charlottesville and Albemarle have had so many people move in that some natives want to claim the past and "resist the homogenizing effect."
French says what the flag wavers are rebelling against isn't necessarily blacks. For example, it could also be liberals. Or perhaps it could be... Yankees?
"That's the problem," French says. "It's not fully articulated, and you don't know what's going on."
Of the 3,500 members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans in Virginia, about 80 are in the Charlottesville area. They've found it can be a burden to stand up for their heritage.
"It's a wearisome thing," concedes Tatum. "We're tired of dealing with it. But if the gentleman wants to fly his flag, that's his First Amendment right. We're not going to stop flying it."
And he sees one benefit for the Sons of Confederate Veterans in the ongoing controversy over the battle flag. "The more people complain, the more members we get," he says. "People are fed up."
Racial POV
If he needed to have some welding done, Corey Walker would not patronize Quality Welding. He is a teacher at UVA's Carter G. Woodson Institute.
"For me, I can't see the flag without seeing that the central component of the South as a regime was the institution of slavery," he says.
To Walker, the heritage argument falls a bit flat because so much of that heritage "entails the enslavement of African Americans."
Even Shelby Foote, while versed in the history of the battle flag, recognizes that it's become "a banner of shame and disgrace and hate," he says in Confederates in the Attic. He attributes that fate to misuse of the flag during the civil rights struggle.
Joe Szakos can see the Quality Welding flag from his second floor offices at the Virginia Organizing Project. He says visitors are often "appalled" to see the Southern Cross when they look out his window.
"Nobody can fly that flag without knowing the negative message it sends to the community," he states. "It's a symbol of racial hatred."
Joe Szakos
The Albemarle-Charlottesville branch of the NAACP shares the same building as Szakos. Its president, Edna-Jakki Miller, has never noticed Lewis Dickerson's battle flag. She doesn't seem too surprised that it's flying, though, in a state that allows Confederate flags on license plates.
Miller acknowledges that it's Dickerson's right to fly the flag, and she hazards a guess as to why. "Some people's lives might not be so big. They're still locked in those times and proud of it."
Edna-Jakki Miller
Miller doesn't care if someone flies the flag inside their house. "But in public, don't subject me to it," she says.
To Miller, the message the flag sends is that this is a business that doesn't care much about its marketing. If it did, "It would not do something so offensive to customers and to the neighborhood," she says.
French echoes that sentiment. "When you fly it, you want to be provocative. He's not flying it from home."
French admits he knows nothing about Dickerson or his motives for flying the battle flag. Yet, he says, "I'd have to assume he doesn't care if it offends. He has to know that for many people, the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery and segregation. He clearly is making a statement."
Because of the flag, neither Miller nor French is likely to patronize Quality Welding, although French notes that the market for those who need welding may be limited and the shop is not likely to draw many walk-in customers.
Public policy
Scot French poses this question about the flag on Harris Street: "Is it a public policy issue? I don't think so." He says he'd react more forcefully if the flag were flying over a public institution than as a statement made by a private citizen.
For instance, people all over the country weighed in on the debate over the battle flag flying atop the South Carolina capital. And last year, Mississippians voted to keep the battle flag on their state flag.
However, at least one critic questions whether there is a public policy issue involved with the Quality Welding flag. A UVA faculty member, who prefers to not have his name used, asks whether the business does contracting for government agencies in the area, adding, "I certainly don't want my tax dollars supporting this symbol of racism."
In fact, the City of Charlottesville spent $20,836 at Quality Welding last year. The city has no policy on doing business with companies that fly potentially offensive symbols, according to city spokesman Maurice Jones.
The city does routinely require a nondiscrimination clause in its requests for bids. "Despite the fact the Confederate flag is offensive to many, it does not on its own mean the company practices discrimination," says Jones. "Therefore we cannot legally disqualify it from city jobs.
Quality Welding has no black employees.
When will the war be over?
Some would argue that merely by writing about Lewis Dickerson's Confederate battle flag, The Hook is fanning the flames of a sensitive topic.
One of the most sage observations in Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Horwitz's Confederates in the Attic comes from a waitress in Columbia, South Carolina, at the height of the flag-over-the-capitol furor. "As soon as you make an issue of something, everyone feels they got to pick sides," she notes, "same as they done back in eighteen-whatever."
And yet, it's an issue that doesn't seem to go away. The presence of the neo-Confederate memorabilia stand at this year's Albemarle County Fair drew comments from many less-than-amused fairgoers, including one who says, "I thought I was at a [Klan] rally." [See sidebar]
There have been some attempts to rehabilitate the flag. During the 1960s, a civil rights group at UVA, the Southern Student Organizing Committee, used a Confederate flag held by clasped white and black hands on posters.
On the state level, during his last year in office, former Governor Jim Gilmore backed away from the Confederate History Month proclamation issued by his predecessor, George Allen. In its place, Gilmore issued a proclamation of his own commemorating both sides in the war and drawing the wrath of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. This year, Governor Mark Warner declined to issue any proclamation at all, calling the practice a "lightning rod."
"Whether people mean it to be or not, it is divisive," says French at the Woodson Institute. "If you're trying to unite all Virginians, the Confederate flag doesn't do it."
Perhaps no one illustrates the complexity of the battle flag divide better than Ben "Cooter" Jones, who's running for the 7th District congressional seat.
Jones, who used to star in the popular '80s show, The Dukes of Hazzard, was recently dissed by fellow Democrat and former Governor Doug Wilder, who complained to party officials that Jones was using the Confederate flag as part of his campaign strategy.
Cooter Davenport, the character Jones portrayed in the series, drove a Dodge Charger called the General Lee, which sported a Confederate battle flag on its roof.
Jones has been riding in the General Lee in parades, sparking Wilder's complaints and drawing criticism from his opponent, incumbent Eric Cantor, of Jones' emphasis on his Southern heritage.
Jones vehemently denies he's sending a racist message, and he backs it up by citing his activism arrests during civil rights protests in the '60s. Civil rights leader and former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young defends Jones' civil rights credentials.
Jones told the Washington Post that his pride in Confederate valor is not inconsistent with a belief in civil rights.
"Part of Southern heritage is ancestors who fought nobly on the wrong side of history," he says. "Many of us have a love affair with this region and all of its people."
Southern heritage can cut both ways, though. And for Jasper Bell, who can see the Southern Cross every day from his front porch, the other side is, "I really don't like that thing being there."
Can the battle flag ever fly in public without controversy? Shelby Foote thinks not, much as he wishes it could be seen as it once was, a symbol of honor and love of country.
He sounds frailer and wearier on the phone at his home in Memphis than one remembers from The Civil War, but he offers one observation in the ongoing battle over flying the flag: "The people in the middle 90 percent of them don't give a damn one way or another."


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Guests: Dana Milbank, Ron Reagan, Ed Rollins, Ezekiel Emanuel
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Wait, wait, don`t tell me!
Let`s play HARDBALL.
Good evening. I`m Chris Matthews up in New York. Leading off
tonight: Let`s go to the videotape. We have two pieces of tape tonight
that you just can`t take your eyes off. The first is Herman Cain`s
bumbling answer on Libya, which makes you almost forget that "Oops" of Rick
Perry`s. If fear of foreign policy questions is a criterion for winning
the Republican presidential nomination, Cain is a shoo-in.
The other bit of must-see TV is Bob Costas`s interview last night with
Penn State`s Jerry Sandusky. To believe Sandusky`s denials is to believe
that everyone else is wrong or lying and that he, Jerry Sandusky, is
innocent of anything bad. Well, you`ve got to see this interview, too.
Plus: Take me to the return window. Democrats today began their
effort to recall Wisconsin governor Scott Walker. Walker`s one of three
new Republican governors in big swing states -- John Kasich in Ohio and
Rick Scott in Florida are the others -- whose approval ratings are in the
negative territory. Both states -- those states could well determine the
election, and unpopular Republican governors could be very good news for
President Obama.
And with enemies like these, who needs friends? Michele Bachmann`s
new Web ad makes a devastating case against every viable Republican in the
race. In other words, it doesn`t include her. It`s so good, she`s done
the Democrats` job for them. More must-see TV tonight in the "Sideshow."
And "Let Me Finish" with the two things driving the Republican
presidential race, hate and indifference to experience.
We start with Herman Cain. Michael Steele is the former chair of the
Republican National Committee. He`s now an MSNBC political analyst. And
Dana Milbank is a columnist for "The Washington Post."
Gentlemen, let`s go straight to the tape, as Howard used to say.
Here`s Herman Cain yesterday answering a question from the editorial board
of "The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel" about Libya. Let`s watch and listen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you agreed with President Obama on Libya or
HERMAN CAIN (R-GA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: OK, Libya. President
Obama supported the uprising, correct? President Obama called for the
removal of Gadhafi. Just want to make sure we`re talking about the same
thing before I say, yes, I agreed, or no, I didn`t agree.
I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason --
no, that`s a different one. I`ve got to go back and see. Got all this
stuff twirling around in my head.
I would have done a better job of determining who the opposition is.
And I`m sure that our intelligence people had that -- had some of that
information. Based upon who made up that opposition, OK, based upon who
made up that opposition might have caused me to make some different
decisions about how we participated.
MATTHEWS: What do you make of that, Michael Steele, that performance
by the candidate who`s now leading in some of the polls for the Republican
presidential nomination?
MICHAEL STEELE, FMR. RNC CHAIR, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: Honestly,
painful. It`s very difficult to watch. It`s very difficult because you
know, and everyone has acknowledged, that this is a very, very weak spot
for Herman Cain.
And I think that at this level, and certainly at this point in the
campaign, you`ve got to get this stuff where it`s second nature. It`s not
the same as what Perry went through the other night, where you`re going
through a check -- and you just blank. This is clearly trying to pull the
card that has the points.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
STEELE: And that`s just not how you go about speaking about foreign
policy because it is such a fluid area of our life in this country and in
this world. And you`ve got to be on top of it. So I think it was a very
painful moment to watch.
There`s a lot, you know, that can be made of it, for the negative.
But I think that the bottom line is folks are looking at that and going,
OK, that 3:00 o`clock call in the morning, you know? And that`s not a spot
you want to be in when the vote starts in six weeks.
MATTHEWS: Let`s go to Dana because I`m not -- I usually don`t go --
first, it`s not about brains. The guy`s a smart guy. It`s about
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Absolutely.
MATTHEWS: And I want to go to Dana on this. And that`s -- clearly,
it`s not about background. It`s really about curiosity. He obviously
hasn`t been reading the papers for the last X many months about Libya.
Just -- it`s in the papers. It`s not like you got to go deep into the
foreign section. It sits there. A lack of curiosity about one of the
things you should be curious about if you want to be president of the
United States, I think. That`s a value judgment. What`s yours?
DANA MILBANK, "WASHINGTON POST": Yes, I would say so, Chris. I mean,
this is different from him not knowing what a neoconservative is, OK? That
struck a lot of us as odd who had been participating in the political
debate over the last decade. Sort of impossible to miss Libya altogether,
yet he seemed to have done that. And if anything, I think playing that
brief part of the clip is friendly to Herman Cain because this goes on not
for 53 seconds, like Rick Perry, it goes on for five minutes like this...
MATTHEWS: What did you -- what made you think I`d stop there?
MATTHEWS: Let`s go to the rest of it. Generosity is not the name of
this show. It`s not "Success" magazine here. It`s called HARDBALL.
Cain struggled to explain his thought process on Libya for over five
minutes, as Dana Milbank helped us with. Let`s watch some more of what he
wants us to see, Dana. Here it is, buddy.
CAIN: Some people want to say, Well, as president, you`re supposed to
know everything. No, you don`t. I believe in having all of the
information, as much of it as I possibly can, rather than making a decision
or making a statement about whether I totally agreed and didn`t agree, when
I wasn`t privy to the entire situation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I`m not clear, then. What was the parts that
you`re criticizing the president for, of how he handled it?
CAIN: OK. The opposition that wanted to overthrow Gadhafi -- who are
they? How organized are they? How strong are they? Who would be the
apparent leader? Now that they have succeeded, did they have a plan for
how they were going to govern, or are you going to end up now with a
country in complete chaos? This is what I mean by...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So -- but if they didn`t have that, then would you
back off and not have gotten as involved as...
CAIN: It would depend upon which part they didn`t have. What I`m
saying is, it`s not a clear yes/no answer because all of those things, I
think, should have been assessed. That`s what I`m saying.
MATTHEWS: Michael, I think you got -- excuse me -- I think you`ve got
it here. It`s not that he doesn`t have a lot of pieces to the question.
He has a lot of the elements of what anybody in the presidency would have
to ask. He gets to it, but no cogency.
STEELE: Right.
MATTHEWS: No compelling coherence, no, I`ve got it together. I`ve
through this through a little bit. I think I know where I`m going. It`s
like he had never thought of it until that guy asked the question.
STEELE: Well, that`s precisely it, Chris. And you know, I know how
these sessions go, these -- preparation on issues and the debate sessions
go. And what the candidate has to do is to take all that information --
because you can be in a room for six hours and they can go through a whole
series of issues with you.
You`ve got to take those cards, you`ve got to take your notes, and
you`ve got to go back and begin to internalize this, so that when you run
into, you know, a board meeting like that or a reporter out on the campaign
trail who asks the pop question, you can, you know, just viscerally respond
with your answer because you know it. You`ve internalized it and you
understand exactly nuances of it.
And I think that`s the part that`s been a little bit of struggle for
Herman in just terms of taking all of the complexities of foreign policy
and internalizing it in such a way that when you`re asked about Libya, you
know two, three things off the top of your head that you want to respond to
immediately because what you would do as president is A, B and C. And so
that, I think, is the stumbling block right now.
MATTHEWS: Well, here`s my tough critique. You know, darn it, it`s
not just an analytical problem for this guy, Dana and Michael. It`s not
just to answer the tricky question from the tricky reporter who`s trying to
catch you. Most Americans had a human response when they heard that
Gadhafi, who`s a bad guy, a bad customer, was heading to Benghazi to wipe
out an entire province, practically, because they were rebelling against --
he was going to wipe them out. He said, I`m going to kill everybody there.
People had -- Hillary Clinton, to her credit, and Samantha Power and
Susan Rice at the U.N., the three people in the foreign policy community,
said, No, we are not going to stand by for another Rwanda. We`re not going
to let another African government just come in and kill everybody because
they feel like it. That was a gut reaction.
It seems to me that Mr. Cain did not have a gut reaction to whether we
should have gone in. And that is a problem. You should have a reaction.
Either stay out because you`re principled in your isolationism...
STEELE: Right.
MATTHEWS: ... or, Damn it, American people have to take
responsibility as human beings occasionally.
MILBANK: Well, right. And his reaction was that he ultimately wound
up agreeing. And as the clip closes, he`s saying, Well, maybe President
Obama did everything right in the first place.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
MILBANK: The instinct is to oppose Obama, no matter what he has done.
And I think that`s true across the board among the Republicans. The
problem is, there are many cogent critiques to be made. The problem is
that he didn`t settle on one of those, which would indicate he didn`t have
one in his head in the first place.
MATTHEWS: Well, yesterday, Cain`s campaign tried to explain the
embarrassing episode by saying the candidate was operating on only four
hours of sleep. The candidate himself didn`t seem to think there was
anything wrong with his answer when he was asked about it this afternoon.
Let`s watch this interesting back-and-forth.
CAIN: Being in a room where you`re being asked question after
question on different topic after different topic, I paused. And I don`t
understand why that pause created so much, quote, unquote, "controversy." I
have never not taken responsibility for what some people perceive as
mishaps, missteps, or whatever the case may be. In that particular case, I
paused to gather my thoughts.
MATTHEWS: Well, last night, Cain had this odd exchange, as I said,
with a reporter who asked him about his Libya comments. Let`s watch this
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Cain, do you think the Libya comments
reinforced the...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let us walk through! Let us walk through!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... idea that you don`t have a thorough
understanding of foreign policy?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let us walk through.
MATTHEWS: Well, now he`s speaking German, Michael.
MATTHEWS: That`s N-E-I-N, N-E-I-N, N-E-I-N.
STEELE: Yes, that`s right!
MATTHEWS: What do you think of him? He`s just sort of laughing it
off. Is he in freefall, do you think, this guy, as a candidate, just an --
as an MSNBC analyst now, do you think his time is passing?
STEELE: I think -- I think the peak has been reached and I think the
numbers are showing that. And I think this type of an event continues, if
not accelerates, those numbers beginning to flatline. And that`s
unfortunate because I think Herman had an opportunity to really shape some
of the debate here...
MATTHEWS: Yes.
STEELE: ... but it is the personal missteps that seem to be the
killer. And I think it`s unfortunate.
MATTHEWS: It`s troubling because we do want somebody who understands
business, and that`s his strength. But it just -- it`s just like pulling
the sheets across from your wife in the middle of the night. Somebody gets
MATTHEWS: There`s some areas you just don`t cover when you say, I`m
an expert on Godfather Pizza and the restaurant association, I don`t know
nothing about North Africa!
Anyway, thank you, Michael Steele.
STEELE: That`s why you get a bigger sheet, you know?
MATTHEWS: Well, that is one answer. For the better off 1 percent,
that`s true. Thank you.
Coming up, the man at the center of the Penn state child scandal --
sex scandal speaks out for the first time. What a get this was last night
for "ROCK CENTER." Jerry Sandusky was interviewed last night by NBC`s Bob
Costas and he says he`s innocent of everything. It`s must-see TV. We`ve
got it coming up next here on HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: I`ve got a brand-new Bloomberg poll out of Iowa right now.
It`s something you don`t see every day. Check it out right now. With
exactly seven weeks to go, it`s a four-way in the Iowa -- four-way. Herman
Cain leads with 20, but Ron Paul`s at 19. Same thing, basically,
statistically. Romney, same deal, 18. Gingrich, same thing, 17. Three
points separate those four candidates. Anybody`s game. By the way, the
margin of error, 4.4. They`re all within it.
We`ll be right back.
MATTHEWS: Back to HARDBALL. Former Penn state assistant coach Jerry
Sandusky last night admitted to showering with young boys, but claims, or
says, he`s innocent of the 40 counts he`s currently charged with,
including, quote, "involuntary deviant sexual intercourse."
For the latest on this story, I`m joined by MSNBC political analyst
and nationally syndicated radio host Michael Smerconish. Michael, let`s
watch the interview. Here`s Jerry Sandusky last night with Bob Costas on
JERRY SANDUSKY, CHARGED WITH CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE (via telephone): I
say that I am innocent of those charges.
BOB COSTAS, NBC "ROCK CENTER": Innocent? Completely innocent and
falsely accused in every aspect?
SANDUSKY: Well, I could say that, you know, I have done some of those
things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts.
I have hugged them and I have touched their leg, without intent of sexual
contact, but -- so if you look at it that way, there are things that --
that wouldn`t -- you know, would be accurate.
COSTAS: Are you denying that you had any inappropriate sexual contact
with any of these underage boys?
SANDUSKY: Yes, I am.
COSTAS: Never touched their genitals? Never engaged in oral sex?
SANDUSKY: Right.
COSTAS: What about Mike McQueary, the grad assistant who in 2002
walked into the shower, where he says, in specific detail, that you were
forcibly raping a boy who appeared to be 10 or 11 years old, that his hands
were up against the shower wall, and he heard rhythmic slap, slap, slapping
sounds, and he described that as a rape?
SANDUSKY: I would say that that`s false.
COSTAS: What would be his motive to lie?
SANDUSKY: You would have to ask him that.
COSTAS: What did happen in the shower the night that Mike McQueary
happened upon you and the young boy?
SANDUSKY: OK. We were showering and horsing around. And he actually
turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor. And
we were, as I recall, possibly, like, snapping a towel in horseplay.
MATTHEWS: Oh! Well, my mouth`s open. Michael Smerconish, where do I
begin? Where do I begin here? Why did he take a shower to begin with,
with the kid? He wasn`t involved in the sports activity, he was coaching.
I mean, isn`t that the most primitive (ph) question you could ask? What
are you doing in the shower? You`re the grown-up. The kids had the sports
think it`s devastating. I don`t know why he even granted that interview to
Bob Costas.
MATTHEWS: Oh!
SMERCONISH: I have to believe that his lawyer must have been of the
opinion that every potential jury pool on the planet earth is in the
process of being poisoned, so they needed to at least have some footage out
there of him denying the charges.
But Chris, in the process, he corroborates many elements of those
charges that he faces, and then comes just shy of giving an admission. For
example, he`s acknowledging, yes, that`s me, that`s the guy that they`re
all talking about. Yes, I was at Penn State. Yes, I was in the shower.
Yes, I was naked. Yes, I was with a kid. Yes, there was touching going
on. So it`s going to be very, very hard for him to later...
MATTHEWS: What about the towel snapping? What about this towel
snapping that...
SMERCONISH: How does he draw a line...
MATTHEWS: ... makes the sound of the sexual activity he`s accused of?
What are we up with towel snapping? How`d that fit into his defense, his
SMERCONISH: Well, I think it was all very odd, odd as it sounds,
because I think it was a horrific interview for him to have given...
MATTHEWS: Oh!
SMERCONISH: ... and terrible, devastating...
MATTHEWS: By the way, the other side of the coin, Costas -- Costas
was Perry Mason here. I mean, this was brilliant interrogation. I mean,
he -- he came around, and every time the guy got the question BS`ing, he
came around the other corner and hit him from the other side and said,
Therefore. I mean, he was -- God, he carved him!
SMERCONISH: Well, how does he even -- here`s a follow-up I would have
loved to have asked. How does he even remember the incident with
MATTHEWS: Oh!
SMERCONISH: ... if it were as innocent as he would have us believe?
It happened in 2002. It was a walk-by by McQueary. If there was nothing
untoward taking place, how can he now speak with such a level of
specificity about the kid turning on all the showers and sliding on his
buttocks across the floor? I`m telling you, there are so many ways to chew
him up, I think, based on that interview.
MATTHEWS: Yes. "I have touched their leg." Why would he agree to
that? Why would he say these -- why would he give -- what`s this, a
limited, modified hangout, like they used to say in Watergate, admit 80
percent of it?
SMERCONISH: Right.
What he`s going to try to do is say, and that`s where it ended. But
the more I read this grand jury report, I don`t see where there could be
any in-between. Either he`s stone-cold innocent and didn`t do any of this,
or he`s guilty of all of it. It`s, you know, that old adage, you can`t get
a little bit pregnant.
MATTHEWS: And the horrible part is the mind control he exercised over
these kids to make them think he was adult and this was normal -- well,
allegedly, sure.
But here`s more of Sandusky`s interview with Costas on "Rock Center"
last night, where Bob asked the former coach if he was attracted to young
boys. This is really bizarre. Let`s listen.
BOB COSTAS, NBC SPORTS: Are you sexually attracted to young boys, to
underage boys?
rMDNM_JERRY SANDUSKY, CHARGED WITH SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN: Am I
sexually attracted to underage boys?
COSTAS: Yes.
SANDUSKY: Sexually attracted? No. No, I enjoy young people. I love
to be around them. I love to be around them. I -- I -- but, no, I`m not
sexually attracted to young boys.
COSTAS: How do you feel about what has happened to Penn State and to
Joe Paterno and to the Penn State football program, and your part in it?
SANDUSKY: How would you think that I would feel about a university
that I attended, about people that I`ve worked with, about people that I
care so much about? How do you think I would feel about it? I feel
COSTAS: You feel horrible. Do you feel culpable?
SANDUSKY: I`m not sure I know what you mean.
COSTAS: Do you feel guilty?
SANDUSKY: Guilty?
COSTAS: Do you feel as if it`s your fault?
SANDUSKY: No, I don`t think it`s my fault. I have obviously played a
part in this.
COSTAS: How would you define the part you played? What are you
willing to concede that you`ve done that was wrong and you wish you had not
done it?
SANDUSKY: Well, in retrospect, I -- you know, I shouldn`t have
showered with those kids. So...
COSTAS: That`s it?
SANDUSKY: Yes, well, that`s that`s what hits me the most.
MATTHEWS: Michael, you`re an attorney, as well as a broadcaster, so
will this show up in court, what we just saw with Bob Costas and Jerry
SMERCONISH: Well, you can rest assured the prosecution is going to
attempt to have it shown in court.
Sandusky`s got a Fifth Amendment right and may try and keep it out.
Of course, nothing prevents him from testifying in his own behalf.
Chris, can I call your attention to something?
MATTHEWS: Sure.
SMERCONISH: Because on the sexual attraction question that Bob Costas
asked, do you know the tic? Do you notice the tell, where Sandusky, at
least in my opinion, needed a moment to think about it, and, therefore,
only time in the interview he repeated the question?
If you were to ask me, the if I were to ask you if you have a sexual
attraction to young boys, my hunch is, you would immediately say, are you
blanking me, and you would instantaneously respond.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
SMERCONISH: He had to think that over. He needed to repeat that
question before he offered an explanation. Devastating, as I said, at the
MATTHEWS: Do you think that might be his potential defense, that he
has this drive that he can`t control?
SMERCONISH: Not based on what he just said, because that would be at
odds with the pretty much blanket denial that he just issued.
Look, "The New York Times" reported today that 10 more have now come
out of the woodwork. Their lawyer -- Sandusky`s lawyer is trying to say
they`re looking for a payday.
I think there`s strength in numbers. I think that there are a lot of
individuals who were scared to death to speak up who now are seeing a
comfort level in growing the number and speaking and telling what happened.
MATTHEWS: Are we going to get a change of venue here of some kind,
the legal term, I`m not sure, but where you move the trial to somewhere
else besides even the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to get a fair trial for
this crime?
SMERCONISH: Afghanistan.
MATTHEWS: No, seriously. Do you think...
SMERCONISH: Well, I don`t know where you could go. Honestly, you
could move within the commonwealth, but you know what this is like. This
is leading every newscast, every newspaper, every radio broadcast.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
SMERCONISH: You would be hard-pressed to come up with a Pennsylvania
county where you could go.
MATTHEWS: You know, people of Pennsylvania, especially Central
Pennsylvania, you get outside the big urban areas, Penn State is the heart
of Pennsylvania.
And it`s not just the football team. It`s where you go, regular
people go to college. I mean, my mother went there part-time. My niece
went there. My brother Charlie went there. So many people in Pennsylvania
have relatives, close family, core family members who went to that school
and take honor from that degree. And they should.
I don`t know how we`re going to get past this in the short run,
Michael. What are we going to do about it? How do we restore the name of
that wonderful university?
SMERCONISH: Well, we have got to also restore what`s going on in
Pennsylvania generally.
I have written about the subject that we need a change in the law that
obligates anyone who`s in the loop on the abuse of children to drop the
dime. Doesn`t matter that you go to your supervisor. Shouldn`t matter if
you`re within an institution. You must report. Delaware has that -- 17
other states have it. Pennsylvania needs to have it.
Thank you, Michael Smerconish. Thank you so much for your heart and
your mind.
MATTHEWS: Up next: Michele Bachmann`s new Web video is so
devastating for her Republican rivals, it`s as if she`s done the
president`s dirty work for them. And I mean it. Check out the "Sideshow"
coming up next. This is tough business.
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MATTHEWS: Back to HARDBALL. Now for the "Sideshow."
First up, surprise attack. It`s that time in the campaign, well, for
2012 Republican candidate Michele Bachmann, and with that comes an
interesting new ad. If you thought the initial sympathy Bachmann expressed
for Perry after his mid-debate brain freeze was genuine, this ad might have
you giving that a second thought.
Let`s take a look at Michele Bachmann on attack.
MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I believe that abortion
should be safe and legal in this country.
HERMAN CAIN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It ultimately gets down to a
choice that that family or that mother has to make.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your policy towards Iran is, if they want to
develop a nuclear weapon, that`s their right?
REP. RON PAUL (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Why wouldn`t it be
natural if they might want a weapon?
GOV. RICK PERRY (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If you say that we
shouldn`t education children who have come into our state for no other
reason than they have been brought there, I don`t think you have a heart.
CAIN: China has indicated that they are trying to develop nuclear
ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?
NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Yes, sir.
ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That`s what I`m saying. We got the idea from you
and the Heritage Foundation.
PERRY: Commerce, education, and the -- oops.
MATTHEWS: Wow. Here`s a question. Don`t you think tacking on a clip
of Bachmann`s campaign crazy talk could give Obama camp`s a few ad ideas?
And there still hasn`t been a single vote cast for the 2012
presidential race, but there`s one thing we have certainly seen no shortage
of: debates. They started up in May and we have already reached almost a
dozen GOP face-offs so far.
Let`s take a look at how late-night host David Letterman takes on the
debate overload, as well as the complaint that candidates aren`t given an
equal amount of speaking time.
DAVID LETTERMAN, HOST, "LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN": If we have
to sit through any more of these Republican debates, I`m ready for a
dictatorship. Last week, they debated about the economy. This week, it`s
foreign policy. Next week, next week, movie trivia.
LETTERMAN: Ron Paul is saying he wasn`t treated fairly by the
organizers of the debate. I pulled the tape. You be the judge.
ANNOUNCER: At the South Carolina Republican debate, CBS showed its
bias against Ron Paul by placing his podium next to the ice machine.
ANNOUNCER: Hang in there, Congressman.
MATTHEWS: The question is when they manage to clear the right-wing
field for a single anti-Romney candidate. That`s when it`s going to get
interesting, one guy or one woman against Romney. Then we will see a
Finally, top Republicans in Congress have made no secret that their
top goal is to make Barack Obama a one-term president. Now that Mr. Obama,
-- now he says he has a kindred spirit in the former president. Which one?
Hint: He`s a favorite of mine.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know, President
Kennedy used to say that after he took office, what surprised him most
about Washington was finding out that things were just as bad as he`d been
saying they were.
OBAMA: I can relate.
OBAMA: When you have got the top Republican in the Senate saying that
his party`s number-one priority isn`t putting people back to work, isn`t
trying to fix the economy, but is to try to defeat me, you have got a sense
that things in Washington aren`t really on the level.
MATTHEWS: President Kennedy.
And today one of Obama`s potential GOP opponents, Rick Perry, unveiled
a plan to overhaul Washington, part of which includes a stipulation to
reduce congressmen to part-time employees, part-time employees, you know,
like governor of Texas? Hmm.
Up next, the effort to recall Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker begins
today. It seems that between Walker, Ohio Governor John Kasich, and
Florida`s Rick Scott, there are some unpopular high-profile first-term
Republican governors, which should help President Obama`s reelection
chances in those three key states. And that`s ahead, a big chance for
Obama coming here.
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Another day in the doldrums, the Dow Jones industrials adding 17
points, the S&P 500 picking up six. The Nasdaq surged 29. No big
headlines, really, out of Europe, and mildly upbeat economic reports here
at home giving us another quiet day.
We did get word that Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti will meet with
Italy`s two largest political parties to talk about sacrifices needed to
bring them back from the brink of economic collapse.
Here in the U.S., retail sales gained in October, with auto sales
looking particularly strong. And consumer spending accelerated, but at the
expense of household savings. Producer prices fell more than expected,
especially on gasoline and food items. And Northeast manufacturing is
picking up a bit, reversing five straight months of declines.
As for stocks, Wal-Mart sagged after profits came in slightly lower
than expected, despite increasing sales. And Dell is slumping after-hours
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And that`s it from CNBC. We are first in business worldwide -- now
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MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL.
Anger seems to be motivating -- the motivating factor and continuing
theme driving elections this year, don`t you think? And today marks the
start of an effort to try to recall Wisconsin`s Republican Governor Scott
Walker. Walker has taken hits for his effort to end collective bargaining
rights for public employees in his state.
Well, last week, it was Governor John Kasich who received a black eye
when his anti-union law was defeated soundly in Wisconsin. By the way,
also, Walker in Wisconsin, Kasich in Ohio, and Rick Scott in Florida are
now three new and very unpopular Republican governors. And their
unpopularity could give a boost to President Obama`s campaign in all three
important states.
Ed Rollins is a former campaign manager for presidential candidate
Michele Bachmann and the former political director for President Reagan in
`84. And Ron Reagan is a political commentator and author.
Let me start with Ed Rollins.
These states, just to get them clear -- our late great colleague Tim
Russert used to always talk about Ohio. Ohio -- Ohio this year would be
basically Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida.
ED ROLLINS, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Absolutely.
MATTHEWS: If Obama holds all three, he wins, right?
ROLLINS: Sure. If we -- as Republicans, if we lose Florida or Ohio,
the game is over. We can`t put 270 together. So those are critical.
MATTHEWS: You have never won an election, your party, without Ohio.
ROLLINS: We have never won an election.
Florida now is the key for us also. So my sense is that those are the
real battlegrounds.
MATTHEWS: Well, take a look here.
Ron, take a look at this. According to a poll from the conservative
Wisconsin Policy Research Institute, Scott Walker, the Republican governor,
is underwater with an approval rating of just 42 percent, while 56 percent
disapprove of the job he`s doing out there.
Ohio Governor John Kasich -- I know him pretty well -- is suffering
according to the latest Quinnipiac poll. He`s down to 36 percent approval
of his job he`s been doing as governor -- 51 percent disapprove of him.
And the Quinnipiac poll also shows the Florida governor, Rick Scott -- I
don`t like that guy much -- isn`t any more popular. He`s at 36 percent
approval rating, while 50 percent disapprove of him.
Some of these people are just clearly unlikable, starting with Rick
Scott. But I do wonder about Kasich, whether he can come back in that
critical state of Ohio.
Do you buy this argument that the governor being unpopular a year out
can bring down his party when the presidential race occurs next November?
RON REAGAN, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, that might not be -- there
might not be the exact connection between the governor and the presidential
race here.
But I think that these governors are symbolic of a Republican Party
that has overreached drastically since 2010. And what they have done in
overreaching is tip their hand. People who voted for Scott Walker for
governor in Wisconsin weren`t voting for an end to collective bargaining
rights. They got that, though, with Scott Walker.
And think about the fact that Walker and Kasich, they`ve been in office for
only 10 months. It`s one thing to have buyer`s remorse after three years
where you think, jeez, the guy isn`t doing what I thought he was going to
do. But 10 months in to be wanting a recall, and the Wisconsin recall
looks like it might really happen, like they`ve really got a chance there.
There`s got to be some awfully unhappy people in Wisconsin who think, this
isn`t what we voted for, this isn`t the agenda we wanted.
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Well, Walker may be worried -- well, Walker
may be worried out in Wisconsin. Look at this ad he`s aired right now,
starting last night, during the Green Bay Packers` game last night. Let`s
GOV. SCOTT WALKER (R), WISCONSIN: I`m committed to working together
to create more jobs, to improve our schools, and to protect our seniors.
You know, Wisconsin`s best days are yet to come. It won`t happen
overnight, but we are on our way.
MATTHEWS: I love the football music, Ed Rollins. I`m not sure it`s
going to work.
Here`s my question to you: why do Republicans, and maybe Democrats
can do the same thing, you can enlighten me, they get elected because
people are ticked off at the other party. They don`t like high tax. They
don`t like big government.
So, they go in and settle old scores against the unions. That`s
really what they do. They settle -- the public doesn`t have a score to
settle, it`s the Republican professionals that do.
ED ROLLINS, FORMER CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR, REAGAN-BUSH `84: I think all
of these governors came in with very serious budget problems, and
obviously, one of the ways they thought they could resolve them, they had
lit a fuse, they have energized the other side. I don`t concede in any
way, shape, or form that these three governors are going to be, by a year
from now, in desperate shape.
Scott is probably the first one to have the big test. But --
MATTHEWS: He`s not going to get re-elected, is he? That guy? He`s
a troll. He`s a troll.
ROLLINS: He was an upset -- he was an upset winner this time. But
John Kasich is one of the toughest candidates, as you should remember.
MATTHEWS: I like him.
ROLLINS: In 1982, I can tell you when I was the White House
political director, John Kasich somehow got into my office as a candidate,
and I said, who are you? And he said, I`m running against some Democrat.
And the year, we lost 26 seats, he beat a Democrat.
MATTHEWS: You mean that campaign I was involved in?
ROLLINS: That campaign you were involved. He is a very tough
candidate. He was not expected to win in Ohio. He came back, he won big.
So my sense is they`ve got their guards up, they know they`re in a
battle. And -- but as far as the presidential race, you know, tough
battles sometimes make your troops stronger and we`ll see.
MATTHEWS: You know what, Ron, out in California, there where you
live, it seems to me, you saw the same exact thing, overkill. A popular
guy like Arnold Schwarzenegger gets elected in a roll call, comes in as Mr.
Clean. First thing he does is target -- I`m going to get the firefighters,
public employees. I`m going to get the nurses, you know? I`m going to get
the teachers.
The public said, no way, Jose, you`re not getting any of that. He
misread completely his mandate, which was clean up government. His way of
cleaning up was going after employees, the middle-income employees.
REAGAN: Yes, a lot of these Republicans, I think they get into rooms
together and start talking to one another, and they imagine that the public
themselves thinks the biggest problem America faces is, you know, public
school kindergartner teachers and firemen and things like that.
And it`s just not true. Public school kindergartner teachers and
firemen are people`s neighbors. They know them. They don`t think that
they`re bad people.
And the Republicans have completely whiffed on that one.
MATTHEWS: But don`t you think he should have known about
kindergartner cops, at least, didn`t he play one?
Anyway, how does this affect the presidential race? A poll from the
conservative Wisconsin Policy Research Institute shows that Obama beats
Romney by 11 point outs there. What do you make of that in Wisconsin?
ROLLINS: Well, it`s going to be a tough state. There`s a big Senate
race there too with Tommy Thompson, who`s going to be our candidate. You
know, a year`s a long time ago. I don`t care what the polls --
MATTHEWS: Yes. But the economy can`t get any worse. He`s doing OK.
Here`s Obama in the Quinnipiac head to head matchups in Ohio, Obama
is up three over Romney. That`s not a lot, but it`s something. It`s a
statistical dead heat. The same Quinnipiac poll also shows Obama in a
statistical heat in Florida. He`s trailing Romney by three down there.
What do you make? He`s in the running in all three states when we
have a 9 percent unemployment rate. Suppose it drops to 8. He walks.
ROLLINS: No, he doesn`t walk. He`s an incumbent president that`s
made a lot of promises he hasn`t live up to. At the end of the day, and I
put Schwarzenegger totally out of the camp, he never really was a
Republican, at least not like these guys. And I think at the end of the
day, he made some foolish mistakes.
These guys are pretty smart guys. Once again, I`m not sure about
Scott. I don`t know him well.
MATTHEWS: Yes, step away from him.
ROLLINS: The other two are going to be tough. And Florida is a
state we can win without the governor. The other states we really need a
MATTHEWS: OK. Serious business here. Thank you, Ed Rollins, buddy.
And thank you, Ron Reagan, as always.
REAGAIN: You bet.
MATTHEWS: Up next, Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, she`s speaking
to her constituents for the first time now, of course, of what she went
through. We`re going to hear the congresswoman in her own words, next.
This is HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: Well, for the first time, we`re hearing the voice of
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. Giffords, who survived a gunshot wound
who her head last January, recorded a message for her constituents out in
REP. GABRIELLE GIFFORDS (D), ARIZONA: Hello. This is Gabby
Giffords. I miss you. I miss Tucson. The mountains, blue skies, even the
heat. I`m getting stronger. I`m getting better. It`s been a hard year --
for all of us.
MATTHEWS: Great doctors. Anyway, the message was recorded last week
and released today on the congresswoman`s Facebook page. Giffords`
husband, Mark Kelly, by the way says that she would like to run for re-
election if her health continues to improve.
We`ll be right back.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The Affordable Care
Act is working. They call it Obamacare. I do care. That`s right. The
question is: why don`t you care?
Some of these folks making central to their campaign pledge to make
sure that 30 million people don`t have health insurance. What kind of
inspiring message is that?
MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL.
That was the president on October 4th, defending what the Republicans
have derisively dubbed Obamacare -- and warning them that that vowing to
repeal health care reform isn`t necessarily a recipe for winning elections.
Well, now, the highest court in the country will decide on the
constitutionality of President Obama`s signature domestic accomplishment.
And the decision will likely come down in June of next year, five months
before our presidential election.
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel is vice provost for Global Initiatives at the
University of Pennsylvania. He`s a senior fellow at the Center of American
Progress as well. He worked on the health care reform for the Obama
administration from January of `09 to January this year.
Zeke, thank you very much for joining us.
And, you know, we`ve got a couple of simple questions here. One of
them is, if the Supreme Court wipes out the individual mandate that makes
young people, healthy people, pay some kind of health insurance premium --
will that kill the financing structure of the Obama bill?
DR. EZEKIEL EMANUEL, UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA: Well, it does what
-- it puts it into a death spiral. Plenty of places have tried to have
exchanges where people go and buy insurance without a mandate, voluntary.
And what you end up happening is that healthy people don`t go in
until they get sick and that leads to a debt spiral because costs just
rise, because only sick get insurance, and it makes them very unstable.
All have failed.
MATTHEWS: Yes. So, it`s just like Social Security. You know, the
idea of making it mandatory is people who don`t feel like saving or can`t
save are forced to save by taxing them. Thereby, they are forced to take
responsibility for their retirement years.
In this case, you`re saying to people, OK, you`re young and healthy.
Nothing is going to hurt you. You think you`re bulletproof.
Well, some day, you`re going to be old. We can bet on that, and some
day you`ll probably have a health challenge. We can bet on that, so you
better start ponying up now.
Isn`t that the principle?
EMANUEL: That is the principle. And let`s remember that the
individual mandate which Republicans are now attacking as unconstitutional
was a Republican idea. It`s not an idea that President Obama came up with
himself. I mean, it`s an idea the Republicans have been pushing for nearly
two decades.
MATTHEWS: Well, why do you allow himself to get painted as a lefty,
as a socialist? I can tell you, I can make the Republican argument for
exactly what he did.
Why should people be free loaders? Why should people go to E.R. and
live off basically the premiums other people pay? Why don`t you make
everybody do their share and take responsibility for their own health?
If you get run over on a car somewhere, or on a highway somewhere,
you want somebody to come with an ambulance and you want somebody to take
care of you in a hospital. Who is going to care for it? It`s about time
you pay for it. That sounds like a Republican self-reliant argument.
Why doesn`t Obama sell it that way?
EMANUEL: Well, I actually think, Chris -- Chris, it`s a bipartisan
EMANUEL: Everybody believes we should all be responsible and do what
we can. That`s the heart and soul of the individual mandate. And it is a
system where we all share in contributing to the insurance pool, knowing
that over time, over the course of our lifetime, we will use that insurance
and use health care. So, it`s an argument that everyone can share in.
And the Republicans raised it and had this very good idea, and the
Democrats put it into action.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
EMANUEL: And once they put it into action, they are calling foul.
MATTHEWS: Well, Zeke, here`s the bad news. The Kaiser Family
Foundation health tracking poll shows that 51 percent view the health bill
unfavorable, and that`s a growing trend. Just 34 percent unfavorable.
Has this been bad P.R. or the public is just so against any
government mandate, being told to do anything, that they are so naturally
resistant? What caused these numbers to go the wrong direction for the
president, and you?
EMANUEL: First of all, I think -- almost after every piece of major
legislation in American history, you have a period of turmoil, where people
aren`t sure. People are upset about it. That was true after Social
Security, true after Medicare and Medicaid.
As they get experience with the law, I think they`re going to find it
much more beneficial and support is going to grow. That`s what`s actually
happened in Massachusetts. Support in Massachusetts for their mandate has
grown over time.
I will say we have a very good bill. It`s not perfect, but it`s very
good, and I do think that the administration hasn`t done a great job of
getting out the message about why it`s important. Millions of people have
already benefited. Seniors who have had some of their drug costs defrayed.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
EMANUEL: A million young people who have been able to go on to their
parent`s health insurance plan and this is even before the big changes in
the health care reform bill go into place.
In my view, the right time scale for assessing this health care
reform is going to be a decade. By 2020, are we going to have a better
health care system?
MATTHEWS: If we have, and if we still have the program by then. By
the way, the two best arguments are, keeping your young adult children
under your health care before they got themselves organized in life, which
everybody who is a parent understands.
EMANUEL: Yes.
MATTHEWS: I`ve got three kids in their 20s.
And the other is you can`t deal with the pre-existing condition
protection unless everybody kicks in. That`s how you sell.
EMANUEL: Correct.
MATTHEWS: Take the good stuff and sell the other stuff with it.
Anyway, thank you, Ezekiel Emanuel for coming back on the program.
We`ll have you back a lot.
EMANUEL: Thank you.
MATTHEWS: When we return, "Let Me Finish" with the two big problems
facing Republicans during this presidential election campaign, and they are
pretty obvious in your face. Wait until you hear what`s wrong with the
Republicans. It`s why they have a ridiculous selection process rights now
with such a clown show going on.
You`re watching HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: "Let Me Finish" tonight with this:
The utter confusion in the Republican presidential nominating process
results from two discernible facts. One, they hate. That`s the simplest
explanation of the disastrous course of this selection process. They hate
so much they are not in the mood to fall in love with a candidate or even
falling behind someone. Their brains racked by -- as they are by hatred,
they lack the like mode. They are in no mood they go around looking for a
politician they like. The hating is so much more satisfying.
The second factor: they aren`t respecting experience. One after
another, the candidates in the right had stepped forward. Each has his or
her time in the limelight. Yet out there in the audition stage, one after
another, has showed they don`t have the stuff.
Embarrassed by the exposure, they have shrunk back into the shadows.
And so, the Republicans have a problem. They are consumed by hate, so
consumed they can`t think positively of whom they may want to lead them.
They just can`t change the subject from opposition to government.
And they can`t get over the fact that to govern this country requires
some experience in government, some knowledge of how you lead a government.
I`m reminded often these days of how superior the competition was
once for the American presidency. Say what you will about Richard Nixon --
when he and Jack Kennedy debated back in 1960, the American people were
proud of what they were watching. They were proud of the choice they would
have to make and were allowed to make.
What the heck has happened to our country we`re now being asked to
consider the presidential credentials of political walk-ons like Rick
Perry, Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann? The best question the next moderator
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