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Classic Droan was R R R R, should I DOUBLE DARE HIM? ..was... LaVonne
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:02:09 -0700, Doan wrote:
On 16 Apr 2004, Kane wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:52:00 -0700, Doan wrote:
On 16 Apr 2004, Kane wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:10:51 -0700, Doan wrote:
On 15 Apr 2004, Kane wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 00:06:31 -0700, Doan
LOL! Kane trying hard to distract from his lies!
Just another weasel dodge eh? I didn't lie and you haven't
Another lie!
Post my "lie" again please. I'd like to see if you still have
to lie.
"Just another weasel dodge eh? I didn't lie and you haven't shown
You LIED! :-)
Nope. YOU lied! You have always lied. It's the sole content of your
posts. Unless you confine yourself to a simple few words, and even
then, you often lie.
Sound like you are describing yourself! :-)
There is no sound in these ngs.
Why don't you just email Alina the study? ;-)
Because she could be you socking up or a friend of yours
the study for you because you don't have it.
LOL! Is that what your "formidable" research skill produced?
That is my assumption, given that you slipped and called her by
name of a well known personality connected with your location,
LOL! There are also many "Aline" in Colorado
You confused Aline with Alina. You were thinking then of someone in
LOL! It's a typo, stupid!
Sure, Droany. Sure.
Like I said, you lie.
Nope! You LIED and got Kaught! :-)
You've posted no evidence that supports your claim that I lied.
And Alina had only a 20 something previous posting history on
but seemed very comfortable with the particular medium. She
be a
Alina will be happy to hear that! :-)
That's nice.
It's sure is! :-)0
You still haven't explained why you wanted a self addressed
from her, but no postage. Interesting. Or a dodge.
So I can "scam" you! ;-)
Wouldn't surprize me or others here very much. I notice TM hasn't
responded. Another of your friends?
I see that you are the paranoid! ;-) Yes. We are EVERYWHERE! :-)
I see that you are dodging again. Didn't answer the question.
So why did you slip and mention "Aline" when the poster was named
The same reason that you typed "Arlina".
Nope. I don't have an "Arlina" associated with me in any way. YOU have
an "Aline" associated with your worksite.
As for typo, I didn't know that "a" on a computer keyboard comes next
to "e."
I see only, "w," "d," "s," and of course R R R R R R
Had I done the same thing you'd be screaming, "you lied."
I'll accept that you slipped, but it wasn't a typo.
You've never proven you do have it.
Actually I have! Here is a quote from the study:
A quote is NOT sufficient. I quoted Embry from a magazine
we to presume NO ONE else has quoted him, like possibly
referring to his work?
LOL! Then prove it! Show me where my quotes come from. You are
for straws. :-)
No, I don't have to prove a thing. YOU provide me with proof of
source. Meeting demands for proof by requiring the other person to
prove you wrong is dodging and frowned on among civil people.
Then people just keep on laughing at you for if the study support
agenda and you hide it then YOU ARE STUPID! ;-) I am offering a copy
to anyone that asked.
No you aren't, not unless they are willing to be stalled by having to
come up with a barrier.....such as asking them to send you an
addressed envelope...R R R R R...good one Droaner.
"The post-survey for parents addressed such other issues as:
of the Program, suggestions for improvement, number of "Safe
stickers used by parent, number of time Safety Chart was used,
times child broke safety rules, how many times the Sit and
PUNISHMENT was applied for rule infractions, and parental
of how often child went into the street."
R R R R .... I love this. Anyone reading the actual chart you
would see, plainly, that punishment wasn't working....what a
Here, let's quote you:
And you've just shown how STUPID you are! It's not "punishment
working", it's "problems the parents reported"! Do you have a
with English? ;-)
I see you don't have an answer for this.
Interesting. Do you think then that given the problems with applying
the "punishment" that it was working? And no, I don't have a problem
with English at all. Does the word "problems," expecially when it's
over 50% of the incidences suggest to you it's working?
You are conceding that you
are STUPID! :-0
Nope. That you are.
And here is the problems the parents reported with the Sit and
1) child wouldn't sit - 51.4%
2) child talked back - 8.6%
3) child cried - 8.6%
4) parent didn't like it 5.7%
5) other children around 5.7%
6) No excuse 5.7%
7) child stubborn 2.9%
8) hard to use it 2.9%
9) parent's lack self-discipline - 2.9%
10) Answer left blank 5.7%
So what is the page number of this chart again? In the study.
Look it up! You said you have the study! :-)
As I said, it's not in the report I have. Still dodging the page
question I see. Liar.
Then you don't have the study!
Possibly I don't have the study you have. Not a problem. I offerred to
clear that up some time ago, but you held on supplyling the page
number that would havce established we had different studies, or you
had none at all. You choked.
No problem. It wasn't MY diversion from answering The Question, it was
How's it working so far? R R R R R RR
So, what is the answer to The Question I actually asked?
Since you CLAIMED to know Dr. Embry
so well,
I don't recall saying I knew him well. I have had contact with him. No
big deal. I admire his work, his subject matter. He's an expert and
authority on traffic safety processes, as well as being a major
contributor to NON PUNITIVE and highly effective teaching methods.
He has expanded his discoveries from research into teaching and
training areas of great importance. Look up his website.
why don't you contact him and asked if the data I provided
are authentic or I LIED. I DARE YOU! I DOUBLE DARE YOU.
R R R R. No I don't accept dares. He might tell me it was authentic,
as it probably is, but he would no more be able to tell me from the
information you've given that it is from the study report I have
(which of course it isn't) or if you have A study or a page or two
cited by someone else.
I asked you for a simple page number. Instead of responding you again
Here is
the contact information you gave me:
Dr. Dennis D. Embry
P.O. PAXIS Institute, 31475, Tucson, AZ 85751
What is the correct answer to The Question?
Already answered - "reasonable standard"!
What is a reasonable standard please? And how can it avoid injuring
one's child yet get the job of discipline done?
Over 50% of the time the children wouldn't even participate in
"punishment." R R R R R. So much for YOUR nonsense. This was a
item, I'd wager, in Dr. Embry getting it that teaching what IS
is far more powerful than punishment for an unwanted behavior.
You don't understand English do you??? Where did you get the 50%?
The first line, dummy. I understand english better than YOU do
"1) child wouldn't sit - 51.4%"
HA! HA! HA! You are stupid! That is 51.4% of the out of the TOTAL
numbers of parents who reported "problems"; other parents who
reported SUCCESSFUL with the sit ad watch PUNISHMENT are not counted
in that figure. ARE YOU SO STUPID???
Nope. Not at all. You do not KNOW how many reported problems. It could
be 5 or every single one. ARE YOU SO STUPID???
When a child won't sit they are not participating.
But so are 2 & 3!
Stop wasting your time. I'm not going to tell you what is in the
report I have. In fact I'm not here to debate Embry with you. You blew
that some time back.
I'm still here asking The Question you are lying about answering and
playing with your diversions to see just how far you'll go with your
It's pointless really, because if you ever do come up with proof you
have the study I do all this long time of stalling and fishing and
dodging and weaseling and lying by you shows that you DIDN'T HAVE IT.
Now who is stupid.
I'll let the reader decide that.
What is the correct answer to The Question?
Alread answered!
Nope. Never answered, not even close. I didn't ask what is the
standard (I wouldn't sense there is no "standard" agreed upon.) I ask
for a definition of the line. I didn't ask you to tell me if OTHERS
had a standard, or even if there was a reasonable standard. Those do
not tell anyone where that line is.
Given that you folks claim you know when to stop and when to keep
going, in other words, how to spank safely, I'm asking you to show
others by definition how to do that.
Feel free to call in your friends to help. Chris C. has frantically
put out the call, knowing you and they are stumped, and I know that
it's to create volume to see if I can be kept busy and leave off
pointing out the obvious stupidity and self delusion that people such
as you and they resort to on the subject of your compusion, spanking.
As I said formerly, on this and other "proof" you provided, a
quote, or even a dozen, could be from other sources.
Then it's you who made the claime; cite the sources. CAN YOU?
No, it's not I that made the claim. I have not said that IS were
got the quotes, I merely point out the possibility. And your
to say what page in the study report your quotes come from makes it
abundantly clear you are faking it.
Then you would not be having problem in finding one source where they
actually quotes from the Embry study. Come on, Kane. Show us your
"formidable" research skill! ;-)
Why would I want to quote from the study. The question wasn't whether
or not I had it, but IF YOU HAD IT so we could have a debate. You
choked over providing proof. I waiting patiently, encouraging you,
making it extremely easy to prove it, and all you did was ask ME
Nope, you've proven you didn't have it or were too wrapped up in your
ego and your stupidity to see what a complete fool you were making of
yourself over The Question.
The answer, of course, is deadly simple...deadly to you spanking
compulsives. And THAT and the fact you can't face failure, is the only
reason you won't actually answer The Question.
I have given you three or four chances to come up with a page
and not once have you responded.
I don't see the relevancy in it!
Of course not. Your little ego is in the way, and you don't and never
did want to debate it....you just thought you had found the best way
out of the shame of your inability to answer The Question.
That's all right Droany. We won't tell anyone. {:-
I suspect you just rush back to the library and look for yet
citation of Embry that you think might be from the particular study
am discussing.
Or I can write Dr. Embry and ask him for it. I might just tell him
that you said hi! ;-)
Do. I can hardly wait. I suspect he's lurked here, since I mentioned
the claims and your foolishness. Give him a buzz. It's not like his
number or email addy is a secret.
When you provide, as I asked, page numbers, even for those
asked ME to prove, then I'll assume you have the study, and not
LOL! Do you really I care what you think? ;-)
Nope. That is obvious. Hence you will lie, and dodge, and pretend
just doesn't matter. Just so you won't be revealed for the scummy
little liar you have always been. YOU challenge then you won't meet
the challenge YOU made. No problem for me to expose you time and
LOL! That is why I like having you debating for the anti-spanking
zealotS. You are so good! ;-)
I'm not debating. And there is no question but that I am good. I posed
a question you can't answer honestly and maintain your many years of
I'd say that's fairly skilled. And it was deliberate. Sucker.
Kane0 Kan't!
I asked you for the page number for the beginning of the
of the demographic sample. A very simple thing to provide. YOU
And I have asked you to provide the sample size. YOU HAVE NOT!
33 total.
Are you sure? That's so small to provide any statistic validity.
No, I am not sure what the number is in your "report."
And the study wasn't about a statistical survey or research, thus
adding yet another obvious nail in the coffin you keep your lies in.
And there are circumstances where 33 would be more than sufficient.
You seem to think five or so, as in Baumrind, was adequate, did you
Now how many were observed and how many simply reported?
In the teens!
I believe I asked about both group sizes. One could be and the other
not, or both could be in the teens. Which is it, Droany, and what are
the numbers?
Not guesses.
And what page does the description of the demographics of the
begin on, and who is named the same as one of our posters, and what
page does that name appear on in the report?
What does this have to do with the price of gas?
I don't recall asking you the price of gas. I do recall asking you to
prove you had the study. If you had it you'd admit that I do, given
that our number for the total would have to be the same.
I asked you the page number, and many times now, as proof.
If you aren't going to provide proof then it's pretty obvious you wish
to keep this going as long as possible to avoid The Question, and it's
spanking compulsives embarrassing truth...........YOU DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER, BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE ANSWERED, which of course gives the lie
to your claims all these years.
So much for parents being the experts.
So, when you ask me again for the number of subjects in the
group, include the page number. THEN I'll know you aren't lying.
And you'd be lying! ;-)
When I ask you for the page number I'd "be lying!"
What would I be lying about?
A question, last time I checked, does not qualify as a lie. It isn't a
statement of claimed fact, but just a question.
You really are a stupid little child.
Or if you came up with the correct answer it would be lying of me
know you aren't lying?
Or I could be playing with you. ;-)
Yep. Proving that all you have ever done here in this ng is play. We
know that. We just like to let others see it plainly. Any check on
your posting history would show that, just in case anyone might come
here and take you seriously for even a moment.
I notice you have gone missing in the misc.kids ng for some time,
after a flight there to get away from TheQuestion. The caught on to
you rather quickly.
You have a very strange understanding of english.
So do you! ;-)
Nope. I stick to the standard, a reasonable standard.........R R R R R
I can look up precisely what is meant to see if I am correct or
So, care to show me the standard enlish reference that shows a
question can be a lie?
And you are still using this study and discussion of it to avoid
admitting you don't know the answer to The Question.
#4! :-)
Nope. I did NOT challenge you to depate Embry. You used it in the
middle of our discussion of The Question, and you are still using
it...to dodge.
You are right I forget, it was your weasel. I'll try to remember to
include it in the future when referring to your weaseling.
You dodged the question with The Embry study segway, and then you
dodged the Embry study debate by refusing to prove you had the study.
No big deal. We all knew you would. I predicted it.
What is the correct answer to The Question?
The answer I gave you long ago!
Nope. Not unless you gave an answer other than The Law, and
"reasonable standard."
You provided NO law that defined the line, nor have you provided any
"standard" that has been set that defines the line.
IN fact you are a real advocate for the law becoming more restrictive
by virtue of becoming more precisely descriptive, for everywhere that
laws against CP have taken hold they do so by............you guessed
it.........becoming very much more precise in defining the line. NO
SPANKING, makes the live very clear, now doesn't it?
Which is the central issue.
According to whom? :-)
According to you. I asked you The Question, you claimed you could
answer it. You attempted to an failed.
I have already answered it but you are to stupid to understand it.
Look it up!
I have. There is no reasonable standard anywhere that defines the
Hence, you have NOT answered my question, The Question.
Your attempt to run now is the central issue, or you can answer The
And you are lying again!
Nope. There is no lie in that statement. You are running, as you
always run, by these dodges that have become your obvious pattern over
the years. And you have not answered The Question. So take your
pick...run or answer.
Why is it you demand that "Aline" R R R R, provide you with a
addressed envelope? Why is it neither "Aline" or you seem
carry off this transmission of material?
Could it be that Alina is me? ;-)
Yes, it could be. Or a friend willing to play your game for you
me. NO, Droany, I'm not giving the study to a stranger. When I
anyone I certainly was NOT considering someone NOT in the ng at
time and certainly NO ONE that would serve it up to you before
prove you have it.
Weasel! :-)
Nope. Just accustomed to years of your lying, and unwilling to
continue serious debate with you as long as you continue lying.
You are describing yourself again! ;--)
Which of our exchanges for the past few months have constituted
serious debate by you? You won't even prove you have the study.
Obviously it wasn't about debate, it was about not answering The
What is the correct answer to The Question?
Already answered!
Those I've given it to have agreed NOT to send it to you. I
they are smart enough to see your game and that you are angling
some clues and the study itself if you can get it through me.
Only anti-spanking zealotS would believe that! :-)
So. Prove you have the study.
Already have. Now, prove that you have the study!
No you haven't. Not once have you given a single answer or offered a
single bit of information that could not be obtained elsewhere...yet
everytime you have been asked for proof that would be provable, you
Why would you not offer up a simple page number and come up with the
name of a poster that appears in the study?
Tough luck, little Droaner....not going to happen.
Weasel! :-)
Just another dodge ad hom.
Throwing the same "****" back at you. You don't like it? ;-)
Nope. I didn't make the original challenge. YOU did, then failed to
follow through.
So tell us, who is mentioned in the study that has the same
as someone well known to this ng and on what page does that name
appear in the report?
distraction #5! :-)
Oh really? YOU consider it a distraction to ask the name from the
study and the page number?
Yes. Just the fact, please.
Okay, just the fact then. What page and what is the name.
Distraction from what?
From the Embry Study and why you lied about the PUNISHMENT component.
Nope. Didn't lie. Didn't see the piece you referred to until later and
said so. A mistake, unless done with deliberate intent to deceive is
not a lie.
If such were true, then YOU would be the champion liar of this ng, now
wouldn't you weasel?
The answer to The Question?
Already answered.
I must have missed it. I've found no such answer. YOu may claim it all
you wish.
You haven't done it.
And why won't you answer that simple question? Or provide page
for the questions you ask me?
I don't play your game! :-)
But you expect me to play yours.
Sure! You always have!
Nope, never have. I've lead you everywhere we have gone.
Your public exhibition is a giant laugh. Especially when you claim to
be debating or playing. But lie and lie.
That is your nature!
Nope. You mistake my method. You lack the depth to see it, and the
flagging flacid ego that supports your self delusion.
Don't you know that I am
using you to attack the anti-spanking zealotS!
Sure I know. Problem is you don't know that you are transparent as
That's how you walked into The Question so stupidly.
You are so busy playing at your superiority, trying to inflate a weak
damaged ego from your childhood of being spanked, that you can't see
where you are going even when YOU think you are leading the way. R R R
You are STUPID!
Gosh, I must be. I've given you so many chances to get out of The
Question, and still you stick to your stupid response, that you
already answered, when it's patently obvious you haven't and the
question I asked.
Well, neither of us is going to play the other's game, but you
yourself up.
Yup! You are so good! ;-)
Yup! Apparently. But that's a function of how much of a fool you'll
make of yourself over one simple question.
So far you've put months into it.
You tried to answer a question you could not.
I tried to teach an old dog a new trick and I could not! :-)
Must be so, after all, you have "already answered" so obviously I must
be missing something....R R R R R
Care to share what the "new trick" might be?
I always thought lying was a very old trick, no matter how elaborate
or how convoluted the dodging might get.
That isn't something new. I've seen it repeatedly, and I walked you
right into doing it again, with The Question.
How does it feel to be trapped by your own lies?
What is the correct answer to The Question?
Already answered!
Nope. Never answered, not even once. Each attempt was a diversion. A
trip away from the answer. The Law doesn't answer it. And the
population lacks a standard. And the definition of "reasonable" is in
Not just from community to community but from household to household
and even from parent to parent in a household.
By the way, the chart you offerred on the responses to the Sit
Watch non-compliance by the chidlren to "prove" you had the
study....bogus. Sorry.
Nope. It's not in the study and a few people here that have the
know it as well as I.
Then they sure can speak up and attest to it. Why are they so quiet?
I haven't asked why they are quiet. That is their business. I
certainly don't need them in exposing a fool like you, child.
I suspect they are laughing at how obvious you are. And waiting for
more of your self delusion that YOU are running the show here in our
"debate." R R R R R
Who have you given the study to that would be happy to step forward
and back your claim? Certainly Couch Croucher would, but oddly,
to know that asking you for the study isn't going to produce the
They could be asking you instead. Funny thing, is anyone that has
asked you publicly got a big NO from you. If the study really
your agenda, don't you that you are being STUPID? ;-)
I foresaw that you might move on to sock puppetry to try and get a
copy of the study. I had no intention of giving the study to anyone I
didn't know and could trust not to pass it on to you.
Nothing even clever in that. Just an understanding of how lacking in
morals you are.
I'm perfectly happy to wait for Aline to send her self addressed
envelope (R R R R R.....good one, Droany) and for you to send the
report back to her.
I have this funny suspicion though that "she" will suddenly develop
and aversion to answering any of the questions I've asked you, like
the name listed on a page, and where parts of the study begin, or even
the page number of that chart on the problems parents encountered.
Now why would I be sooooo suspicious....R R R R R
It does NOT exist in the street entry study report.
It is in the FINAL report!
Which number is that? All reports are numbered.
There is only one FINAL one. Why don't you ask Dr. Embry? ;-)
Because I don't NEED to. The Embry study is something YOU have
invested in as a diversion. I take it seriously. And I have the report
so I don't NEED to ask Dr. Embry.
Why don't you ask him how many reports there are?
In fact though I never said which I have and whether or not it's
final one. I simply said that I had a report from the Embry study
that I'd debate you happily in this ng if you could get the SAME
I see the Kane9 weasel dance coming! ;-)
Since I already told you I no longer will debate the study with you
what would I be weaseling about, and what for?
I have no obligation to engage with you at all, other than to watch
you dance some more.
I find it charming. And childish. And a perfect example of what bad
comes out of spanking children.
Dance, child.
If you have it, fine. But then you have two other steps, and you
to convince me that it's worth my time to rescind the deadline.
So far you have demonstrated how I can expect you to "debate."
Like I say, I wil debate with ANYONE on this. The choice is yours!
Oh, I made my choice some time back, even risked....R R R R....giving
you second chance, that you once again blew.
I'm not here to debate the Embry study with you. And you know it. I
didn't challenge you to a debate, only to proving you had the study.
So far, no luck, but then you don't have to prove a thing if you don't
want to.
How is it you aren't debating the study with anyone else, or even
discussing it with anyone else? Surely, Aline would be happy to
discuss it with you?
But then "she" has this problem with being too busy to get that
envelope off to you. Why not be kind and go ahead and take on the
extraordinary expense ...R R R R R R .... of supplying the envelope
Nothing but dodges and weasels.
Yep! That's you! :-)
Not only haven't I dodged, I've given you every chance to follow up on
your challenges (and you've turned each one down).
I'm still here just watching you. And occasionally responding to your
silliness and your arrogant displays with a little play of my own.
Nice try, Droany but it's becoming patently obvious you are
giant bluff...scam really, and you have nothing as regards
You desperately want a report though, don't you little boy?
OOps! He caught us, Alina. ;-) I guess I have to contact Dr.
like Kane told me to when I ASKED him for the study.
Yep, sure did. And you certainly can. What has stopped you?
Because I have already got one from the library! You told me to,
remembered? :-)
That's nice. But you apparently don't have the one I do. Hence we
wouldn't have debated even IF you had met the deadline. I would
work for duplicates. You lost your chance to get a copy of mine by
being such a smartass and gameplayer.
I am disappointed. So now, the whole newsgroup will not get a chance
to see the great work of Dr. Embry. All because of me.
Apparently. But then that's your choice.
I've considered Dr. Embry's opinion from his work as interesting and
telling but I haven't been particularly interested in the study, until
YOU brought it up.
You've never seen me quote the study. Never cited the study. Never
pointed to the study. You have seen me quote from the magazine
article. When you demanded, little boy stomping foot, that I come up
with study (and you got to turn away from the question yet again) I
offered to discuss or debatet the study with you when you proved you
had it, when you answered TQ, and when you resolved your DARE.
YOU choked.
I stopped waiting for you to finish you bluff some time ago.
Now we are just watching you.
I think folks are being very kind not laughing out loud at you. Guess
they figure it's my play. R R R R R
All yOU had to do was admit you cannot answer The Question
and that your silly dare was a piece of distraction and nonsense to
avoid facing the fact you blew it when you offered to take up the
challenge of The Question.
So you won't debate with me?
I'm sorry. YOu seem to have forgotten. I was more than willing, if you
could come up with the report, if you answered the question I actually
asked (or admitted you couldn't), and left off the I DARE you dodge by
resolving it.
Not an unreasonable request in the lot, is there?
Simple criteria...but of course I KNEW you couldn't meet them. Your
self delusion, instilled in you from your childhood, along with your
extremely fragile ego you must guard at all costs (yet another gift
from spanking parents to their son) would stop you.
You are incapable of being honest.
When you think you are using me to prove that "the spanking Zealots"
are stupid or illogical, you kind of miss the mark, given my handling
of you, as an example of our stupidity.
It's a pleasure doing business with you.
Please give us your answers again. I want the current posters to
what a whimp and fool you are.
They are laughing at you!
If you say so.....but the laughter of a couch crouching gigolo, a
Plant that posts drivelish nonsense, and YOU isn't of much consequence
to me.
I hope the laughter of serious debaters that gave up on reforming you
long ago will continue to be subdued and concealed. There are few
things more dangerous than a weak egoed neurotic protecting their
fragility, Droaner...and you, child, are it.
"I invited you before to contact professor Embry. He is
Dr. Dennis D. Embry
P.O. PAXIS Institute, 31475, Tucson, AZ 85751
Show us the lie, by the way. And Answer The Question....for
the sole reason The Embry report was brought up by you, to
admitting you don't have the answer to the question I asked.
another childish and transparent dodge, little weasel.
Distraction #1.
It is YOUR distraction number one, not mine.
It's yours!
Odd. I'm perfectly willing to take on the challenge I gave you. I
ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU cannot because you know that your entire
posting history here would be seen for the lie it is.
I have proved that you are liar. The google archive still has your
I read what you provided. It isn't a lie to ask a question. It isn't a
lie to be mistaken.
Were you lying the last time you made a mistake? As in a "typo?"
And you DO ask rather a lot of "questions."
The original opening of the entire thread of diversion started
asked you to answer The Question. Instead of answering it
you went on this and other directions as a diversion from how
miserably you failed.
Question has been aswered. You are just too stupid to
Nope. I asked for a limit as clearly definable as a stop sign or
control sign. YOU gave us, "The law" and no law says were that line
is, only defines what the appearance of the victim is AFTER the
is crossed.
So there is a line!
Apparently. But I don't know where it is. That's why I asked those
that claim they know. So far no one has given me the definition,
exactly or even a close enough approximation to ensure the safety of a
child whose parent would rely on that answer.
And "reasonable standard" by "reasonable people" fails for lack of
universal agreement on what "reasonable" and "standard" are in the
matter of CP.
Tell that to the courts!
They do not know either, before the fact. I have TOLD IT TO THE
COURTS. I've asked officers of the court to point me to the definition
of the line. They are unable to. I've searched statutes. Nothing so
But you and the compulsives seem to know...at least you say you do.
In some states it's a switching that cuts the skin, in others, a
can't last over 24 hours...many other definitions of what NOT TO DO
are listed, but nowhere does it say anything like "no more than 12
seconds of force X applied to section Y of the body of a child no
older than or younger than ages a through b."
Exactly, every states set up their own laws. This can pertain to
many other aspects as well.
That wasn't my question. The laws will not protect the child until
after the fact. There are NO laws in the US that outlaw spanking, so a
parent must decide for themselves. So.......where is the line.
Or will you do some more immature processing?
The reason of course for this reticence to be exact, is the real
answer to The Question.
All it takes is a call to your local DA to find out what the law is
in your community!
Please point out where I asked what the law was concerning the line. I
already KNOW the law. I've been involved with law making around child
abuse since 1976.
That's why I KNOW the question is not answerable as I asked it.
And I only asked it to let you lie some more. And you bit.
And I could NOT have asked it if you compusives weren't busy claiming
you KNOW the line and where it is.
All I asked for is proof that you know where the line is. And that
comes from being able to define the line with no more precision than
OTHER safety limits...like speed limit signs on the highway.
So, how many strikes of hand, object, whatever, per hour is the limit?
The line please. Where is the line?
I'm quite happy to discuss The Question with you. It's YOU that
runing from you failure by using these distractions.
distraction #6! :-)
We aren't going to debate the Embry study. It was just a diversion
you to avoid having to discuss The Question and admit you can't
it as it was asked.
Avoiding the Embry study again! :-0
Nope. Doing exactly what I said I'd do. I gave you the criteria for
meeting your challenge to ME to debate Embry. If YOU chose not to meet
them that is YOUR choice, not mine.
Or are the criteria too much for you? {:-
Admit it coward. You don't have the answer to the question
spanking parent has the answer, though they all claim, as you
that they and you do.
Distraction #2.
Yes, you haven't answered The Question, nor admitted to failing
distraction #7! :-)
You certainly do have a string of them.
It's you!
Nope. I asked a question. You dodged the question by asking about
something unrelated...The Embry study. I decided to play with you by
your rules for a time setting my own rules for play.
You apparently then didn't want to play anymore. That's perfectly
okay. You have that right.
A reasonable standard for debate would be you set your rules and I
counter with my rules. YOU get to refuse or accept. YOU couldn't
refuse....r r r r...little boy, and obviously you couldn't accept. So
you choked.
You also have the right to be seen for the hapless ego damaged child
you are.
You choked, then gagged, now you are retching, and that is
doing with your challenges and bull****, instead of simply
or admitting you cannot answer The Question.
Distraction #3.
Which is an admission you haven't and cannot answer The Question
won't admit it.
distraction #8!
Oh, then you CAN answer the question but won't. Okay. Just like to
Already answered.
Nope. Never answered as asked, not even once.
I still do not see that speed limit on CP. Please how a reasonable
standard can be used, when there is NO reasonable standard....if so,
define it please.
We await breathlessly for this secret of the millenia.
Have a wonderful life.
Thanks, Kane0!
Kane0 Kan't!
You are welcome, Droananator. {:-
And you 9 less than a Kane9. Kane9 - 9 = Kane0! :-)
Kane0 Kan't!
You appear very very confused little boy.
We are not. We have see clearly for years what you are. It just was
left up to me to expose you for it.
You are delusional too! :-)
I'll let the reader decide if you have been exposed...well, allowed to
expose yourself with just a tad bit of help from me.
You are a liar, and a cheat, and are not here to debate. Nor do you
actually believe that people should make up their own mind from an
informed decision.
You are describing yourself!
I am not a liar, nor do I cheat. And I am here to debate, but not to
do so with someone that won't abide by the rules of debate.
And I do happen to believe that people should make up their own mind,
from a position of being as fully informed as possible.
I challenge you to prove you believe in and follow through on them
being as fully informed as possible.
Have a good time. Google gonna getcha!
I've proven it again and again.
Again, it's up to the reader. Not only have I proven it, I've let YOU
prove it yourself.
EVen now you could proceed with the content of the Embry study,
without me at all, if you really have it, but you withhold
you claim parents make their decisions from.
what parents? :-)
Those that have come to this ng. Or are you sharing the Embry study
here and I've missed your posts?
Unless of course you believe you can refute the Embry study.
Already have!
I know you already "believe" you have, but I've not seen any evidence,
nor even discussion sufficient to refute the study. You'll point me to
the refutation you have already done please?
What is the correct answer to The Question?
Already answered!
Already not answered.
Pleased to bring some happiness to your day.
What a child you are.
What a Kane0 you are! :-)
Never heard of a "Kane0."
I have heard of an seen, and read the posts of, neurotic childlike
adults though. While not all spanked are neurotic and very fragile
behind various facades you are some example.
Kane0 Kan't!
I didn't ask you what the "standard" was. I asked you for the line
between non injurious CP and abusive injury.
Your logic would have us trying to figure out roadside traffic control
signs that directed us to "Travel at a Reasonable Standard."
Or teaching hospitals in surgery telling interns to make a cut to the
depth of a "Reasonable Standard."
You and your spanking parent buddies all claim they KNOW what a
reasonable standard is, so I'm asking you, for the last time: What
precisely is a reasonable standard beyond which one cannot go because
of the certain result of injury?
And while you are at it, since we have the evidence that many folks
believe and defend that THEIR standard is reasonable, why is it they
DO injure their children?
What is that "standard?"
There is none of course and the sooner you admit it the sooner your
exhibition of stupidity and ego protection will end.
When you, or anyone else can define the "standard" you will have a
defensible argument. Until then you are babbling as you have for
How hard can one hit for a standard spank? What must be the standard
condition of the child? How many standard strokes or hits? What
standard instruments can and cannot be used? What age limits are
And what, in each case, is reasonable?
And how will you reconcile the immense differences that people have?
What source is currently available to determine these standards of
what is reasonable in CP?
Show us where the authority you appealled to, the law, has a standard
from region to region, and what they define as a standard of
It's a simple question really. I know it is because simple folks like
you and your spanking buddies claim it is....or at least that they can
answer it.
So, Droaner, after all these months of avoidance, are you or are you
not going to answer The Question?
Another attempt at avoidance, diversion, or a non answer such as
"reasonable" or "standard" which does NOT answer THE question will be
taken as a failure to answer, regardless of your bogus claim, "already
And feel free to call me a liar, to change the subject, to babble on
about the Embry study or whatever comes to mind.
It's all grist for the mill of truth.
The truth being that you haven't got any.
But it IS fun watching you try to hide from it.
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Bereavement is an emotional and physiological response to loss such as the death of a person or to the loss of independence, mobility, occupation, vitality, home, or culture. In most cases, bereavement is considered a healthy, expected response to a significant life change. Bereavement outcomes may be influenced by an array of factors, such as the survivor s personality traits, coping styles, relationship with the deceased, social support, and early experiences with attachment and loss. Mourning can produce deleterious effects such as compromised immunity, depressive and anxious symptomatology, panic, and increased mortality. These symptoms may be manifested by disturbances in sleep and appetite, depression, anxiety, and illness. Complicated grief may occur in the form of protracted mourning that lasts for longer than one year and is often confounded by major depression, panic disorder, or psychosis.
The AIDS epidemic has created a sizable population of bereaved individuals. With each AIDS-related death, an extensive network of family, friends, colleagues, neighbors, and health care providers is left behind to grapple with the loss. A culture of mourning has emerged in which multiple and chronic loss has become the environmental norm for individuals in high-risk groups. As of 1994, up to 60 percent of gay men reported annual losses, and a third of these bereaved individuals described the multiple loss of family, friends, and neighbors. Some bereaved survivors have witnessed the extinction of their entire social support network, thereby reaching a level of isolation uncommon to most other bereaved groups. By 1988 gay males had already on average lost six lovers, friends, and/or family members. The spread of the epidemic has tangled losses so that the grief of one loss intertwines with the grief of another.
Beyond the sheer volume of loss, AIDS-related bereavement differs from other forms of mourning in several distinct and important ways. First, the stigma associated with AIDS persists and, in turn, impacts the survivor. AIDS-related loss has been shrouded with shame, guilt, and fears surrounding transmission, sexuality, and society s inability to concede the sense of loss experienced by survivors.
During the initial years of the epidemic, fear of contagion led to an unprecedented refusal of services by many funeral homes to survivors seeking burial arrangements for friends and family members who had died of AIDS. Word quickly traveled throughout the HIV community regarding which funeral homes were "HIV friendly" and would accept infected bodies for burial or cremation. Some funeral homes developed policies restricting services for those who had died of AIDS to cremation only owing to fear of HIV exposure during the embalming process. Frustrations over the refusal of burial options for the deceased further confounded the bereavement for many survivors throughout these early years.
For some survivors, bereavement has entailed a complicated code of silence. This silent mourning blocks lovers, spouses, family, and friends from openly acknowledging the true circumstances of death and the special nature of the relationship shared with the deceased, and it leaves survivors feeling more alone and bereft. The grief process becomes further burdened when the survivor is excluded from burial and memorial rites by the deceased's biological family. Bereavement rituals have been shown to encourage the resolution of grief, and exclusion from these rituals can disrupt the bereavement process, leading to a delayed adaptation to the loss, protracted depression, feelings of invalidation, and anger.
Second, most who die are either young adults or children. Deaths at these early developmental stages are typically deemed unusual and premature. These losses violate the societal assumption of natural order: death, in most cases, is expected to occur later in life. Premature loss is always shocking and, therefore, traumatic.
A third unique feature of AIDS bereavement concerns the HIV serostatus of the bereaved. HIV-seropositive bereaved individuals have shown higher levels of distress associated with loss when compared with their HIV-seronegative counterparts. As many as 30 percent of seropositive individuals have reported unresolved grief, as compared with 12 percent of their seronegative counterparts. For the seropositive person, the complexity of such a loss is understandable: an AIDS-related death may serve as a symbol of the bereaved's impending destiny, mirroring the survivor's personal mortality and eventual fate. Surviving spouses must prepare for life alone without their partner and must face their own dying process without the support of the deceased. This finding is of particular concern because unresolved grief has been associated with a poorer quality of well-being, psychiatric morbidity, increased loneliness, and immune suppression. Given the health implications of unresolved grief and its potential damage to an already compromised immune system, aggressive treatment to ameliorate distress is recommended. Social support in the form of support groups and grief counseling has been shown to be particularly effective in promoting grief resolution.
A fourth distinctive feature of HIV loss is that entire families may be infected. Within seropositive couples, the death of an entire couple may be inevitable. When one spouse precedes the partner in death, the surviving spouse must prepare for life without the partner, bracing to face his or her own dying process without the support of the deceased lover. For couples who are serodiscordant (i.e., those who have different HIV serostatuses), the dynamics differ as one spouse prepares for death and the other prepares for life alone without the significant other. Families face an even greater challenge when one or more children are also HIV infected and survivors must learn to deal with losing members of two generations of a family.
An important part of the anticipatory loss process for HIV-impacted families with children are the arrangements for adoption, guardianship, or single parenting made prior to the death of the seropositive parent(s). In this process, the seropositive family members help prepare for the well-being of the surviving children and adults. Although difficult, such efforts to ensure the reasonable placement of surviving children often initiate a process of adaptation critical to the grief resolution process for both the bereaved children and any surviving parent. Bereaved children often express a need for reassurance and validation of emotional security during all phases of the grief process. Encouraging the child to ask questions and providing simple and concrete responses can help foster an open atmosphere that promotes the mourning process.
"Survivor guilt" can ensue when survivors blame themselves for the death of a loved one or friend. This is particularly relevant to HIV because transmission can occur sexually, from mother to child, or through shared drug paraphernalia. In AIDS-related survivor guilt, the survivor may feel responsible for transmission issues related to the death and ultimately may feel responsible for the death itself. Survivor guilt may manifest itself by feelings of self-loathing and remorse and an over-ascribing of blame for the death of a loved one or friend. It is not surprising that these acute grief reactions occur more often in spouses and lovers than in other survivors. In fact, more than 25 percent of lovers and spouses experience a major depressive episode following the death of their partner. Seronegative survivors with survivor guilt are left searching for the existential or spiritual meaning of their survival in the midst of significant losses.
The gay community, the U.S. group impacted first by the epidemic, has created powerful resources to support the healthy and adaptive processing of AIDS-related bereavement. In the early 1980s, support groups and grassroots AIDS organizations emerged as resources for individuals who are seropositive, afraid, or bereaved. These organizations flourished across the nation, providing an array of services such as education, referrals, counseling, meals, transportation, in-home support services, and friendship through "buddies." In the 1990s, these support organizations diversified services for the newly emerging risk groups of women, children, and people of color. The availability of support groups and peer counseling surfaced as a cornerstone of support for those infected and affected by HIV.
In response to the burden of loss, communal rituals also have emerged. These ceremonies have been designed to acknowledge and mediate the potent emotions connected with AIDS-related death and dying. For example, annual candlelight vigils and the traveling AIDS Memorial Quilt have been designed to celebrate the lives of the deceased as well as the strength of the survivors. The red ribbon for AIDS awareness has adorned many articles of clothing and has also materialized into a commemorative symbol of empowerment, love, and resiliency in the face of AIDS.
AIDS-related bereavement has become an ongoing event in many communities impacted by HIV. Although patterns of bereavement can be discerned in particular groups, individual grief responses remain as diversified as the lives of the deceased themselves. The healing and strength of survival can be derived from acknowledging the special qualities of the shared relationship with the deceased, participating in private as well as communal rituals, and recognizing the value and worth of being a survivor.
Related Entries
Counseling; Couples; Death and Dying; Families; Mental Health; Ministries; Religious Faith and Spirituality; Suicide and Euthanasia; Support Groups; Symbols
Key Words
bereavement, grief, loss, mourning, support groups, survivor guilt, survivors, widowhood
Further Reading
Martin, J., and L. Dean, "Effects of AIDS-Related Bereavement and HIV-Related Illness on Psychological Distress Among Gay Men: A 7-Year Longitudinal Study, 1985-91," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 61 (1993), pp. 94-103.
Schwartzberg, S., "AIDS-Related Bereavement Among Gay Men: The Inadequacy of Current Theories of Grief," Psychotherapy 29 (1992), pp. 422-429.
Siegel, K., and E. Gorey, "Childhood Bereavement Due to Parental Death from Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome," Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics, 15 (1994), pp. S66-S70.
Summers, J., S. Zisook, et al., "Psychiatric Morbidity with Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome-Related Grief Resolution," Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease 193 (1995), pp. 384-389.
The Encyclopedia of AIDS: A Social, Political, Cultural, and Scientific Record of the HIV Epidemic, Raymond A. Smith, Editor. Copyright © 1998, Raymond A. Smith. Carried by permission of Fitzroy Dearborn Publishers.
Encyclopedia of AIDS $25 US/832 pp/Illustrated
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St. Charles goaltender Robert Moss stymied the Fish stopping 42 shots, leading his team to the win, but many of the shots came from outside and without traffic in front of the net.
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Some people may not think so but the new Disney movie that has been hitting theaters across the globe is making a screen in a big way. Today I thought I would submit a chibi version of the main character that has the long blond locks. Having said that let me get started by showing you guys "how to draw chibi Rapunzel", step by step from the hit movie Tangled. This chibi version of the blonde bomb shell came out so incredibly sweet, and cute. Her big green eyes stand out, and if you ask me I think she is one of the prettiest chibis I have drawn so far. Drawing chibi Rapunzel is going to be easier than some of you may think because she is made up of a big head, a small body, and a lot of hair. This is one of those lessons that will make you feel good once you are all done with the drawing. If you want you can add some of your own perks and quirks, or you can choose to leave her be. No matter what you choose to do with this character I'm sure it will be great. Have fun learning "how to draw chibi Rapunzel", and don't forget to upload your finished works when you are done. Thanks for joining me with this lesson guys, and I hope your drawing day is great.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) – A bipartisan group of lawmakers is developing an alternative to barring the public from 3,500 acres of state-managed forest around a proposed iron mine site in northern Wisconsin.
The lawmakers are working on a compromise that would create a 300-foot perimeter around mine-related activities and a 50-foot buffer along an access road, the Wisconsin State Journal reported Sunday. Sen. Dale Schultz, R-Richland Center, said it could be introduced as early as this week.
"We think this is going to leave people with a good taste in their mouth, rather than a bad one," Schultz said. "It treats everybody fairly and it puts the Department of Natural Resources in control rather than a company."
The original proposal would have halted all public access to the area while Gogebic Taconite explores the possibility of building a large open pit iron ore mine there. The author, Sen. Tom Tiffany, R-Hazelhurst, said he introduced it to protect worker safety in response to a June 11 incident when masked protesters vandalized equipment at the mine site and harassed mine employees, which led the company to bring in armed guards. One woman was charged with felony robbery.
But the proposal to cordon off the surrounding area entirely drew opposition from critics who called in an overreaction that would have prevented law-abiding hunters, hikers and anglers from enjoying land and water they've used for years. Tiffany couldn't find enough votes to pass it.
Gogebic spokesman Bob Seitz called the new, bipartisan proposal unworkable because it wouldn't protect mobile workers who move between different parts of the site.
Tiffany is now working on a modified proposal of his own. He said it would allow land access during gun deer season and provide a 50-foot buffer zone along trout streams.
"I certainly want to make sure sportsmen have as much access as possible," he said.
Gogebic insists its proposed 4½-mile-long open pit mine in the Penokee Hills just south of Lake Superior will create thousands of jobs; opponents counter the mine will pollute the area's pristine water and wilderness.
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Dickson, a town of some 12,000 people is located about 35 miles west of Nashville.
The Dickson County Landfill, 74 acres off Eno Road, sits within 500 to 2,000 feet of approximately 40 homes, most owned by blacks.
This community group is fighting to rid their area of contamination from the Dickson County landfill. (Photo courtesy Environmental Justice for All)
One African American family in particular, the Holts, a family of black landowners, has been especially harmed by the chemical. Many Holt family members are struggling with cancer and other illnesses, and two of its members are plaintiffs in this lawsuit.
The environmental group and Sheila Holt-Orsted and Beatrice Holt allege that TCE pollution has seeped beneath the landfill to underlying groundwater and has spread through a large area of Dickson County.
TCE contamination has rendered water from wells and springs as far as two to three miles from the landfill unfit for human consumption, the plaintiffs claim.
Polluted spring water is flowing directly into the West Piney River, a fishing stream and a major source of drinking water for the Water Authority of Dickson County. Several square miles of Dickson County have been recognized as an 'imminent threat' area by the county.
TCE contamination above drinking water limits, and orders of magnitude above U.S. Environmental Protection Agency screening levels for drinking water, has been found in at least one well even beyond that threat area.
In some areas, this TCE contamination may be growing worse, the plaintiffs claim, but the city and county have not done anything to remove the contamination.
"Some two decades after TCE was first detected in nearby drinking water sources, those responsible have not even fully characterized the present extent and likely future spread of the contamination. Defendants have, in effect, surrendered the ground and surface water of Dickson County to the slow spread of an invisible and toxic chemical," the complainants said in a statement.
The complaint asks the Court to require the defendants to investigate the present extent and future spread of TCE contamination from the landfill in the soil, surface water, and groundwater of Dickson County; to remediate and abate TCE contamination.
Holt-Orsted has undergone six surgeries and chemotherapy for breast cancer. The Holts originally filed lawsuits in 2003 and 2004, naming the city and county of Dickson and the state of Tennessee, and claiming the family was a victim of negligence that resulted in their cancers and other health problems.
Attorneys for the county and state deny the claims in the earlier lawsuits.
An article by Robert Bullard, director of the Environmental Justice Resource Center at Clark Atlanta University in Atlanta, Georgia, gives background and detailed water test information.
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I'm sure you all seen this drawing of what I believe Squirtle would look like if it was an MLP pony. So today, I will be showing you "how to draw Squirtle Pony", step by step. This is a really cute version of Squirtle, and if you are wondering, yes it is a girl. I love the contrast with the amber colored mane against the pastel turquoise color body. The great big eyes and friendly face alone lure you in to try out this tut. I do think that if you have always wondered what Squirtle would look like as a pony, here is what I believe the Pokemon species would end up looking. So go ahead and have fun with this concept, and I will meet you all back here tomorrow with some more drawing fun. If you want to leave some requests you can either do so using the tab on the menu bar, or leave a comment and I will see what I can do. Peace out amigos and like always, enjoy.
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Posted: Oct 27, 2011
With the beginnings of the Conference Carolinas Fall Tournament season underway, Tornado fans may need to take to the open road to see King College participate in conference tournament action or, if you are looking to see how to get to where your favorite King athletic team may be stationed in their upcoming regular season.
There is now a one-stop shop for directions to all remaining 12 teams in the conference. Click here, or one the Tornado Athletics main page, scroll over the "Inside Athletics" drop-down menu and click on "Directions to Conference Schools" for a complete listing of addresses and a link to each school site, provided by MapQuest.


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Growing old is natural, but ageing in an unhealthy way is not. As we grow older, we may not always pay close attention to take steps towards healthy ageing. Our sedentary lifestyle, lack of exercise and unhealthy food choices may affect our health as we age. Over time, we may experience long-term nutrient deficiencies that may affect our:
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88%* of people surveyed agree to taking healthier steps towards healthy ageing.
82%* of people surveyed agree that 40-50 years old is the right age to start healthy ageing.
84%* of people surveyed feel that making a better nutrition choice is important for healthy ageing.
Source: Asia Pacific Healthy Ageing Survey toward consumers
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They came, they stung, they left. Tens of thousands of purplish-black jellyfish that invaded Orange County beaches for the past week mostly disappeared by Thursday along with a red tide of microscopic plankton on which they may have been feeding.
LOS ANGELES They came, they stung, they left. Tens of thousands of purplish-black jellyfish that invaded Orange County beaches for the past week mostly disappeared by Thursday along with a red tide of microscopic plankton on which they may have been feeding.
"The jellyfish blew away yesterday," said fire Capt. Jim Turner in Newport Beach, down the coast from Los Angeles. "The red tide has diminished tremendously, just a few streaks offshore. The water's looking blue-green and lovely. It's gorgeous."
But a renewed wind could blow them back to shore "like Mary Poppins," Turner said.
In fact, the jellyfish aren't really gone; they're heading north. Researchers say there even have been a few recent reports of a jellyfish matching the description appearing in British Columbia.
"They're drifting up coast," said Dennis Kelly, head of the Marine Science Department at Orange Coast College in Costa Mesa.
"They could come ashore again in Santa Monica Bay or even Ventura in a couple of days. There are literally hundreds of thousands of them out there," he said. "They're basically drifters. They go wherever the current takes them."
The species is called the giant black jellyfish, and Kelly said it can grow to have a 3-foot-wide canopy and tentacles up to 12 feet long.
The species was only identified about a decade ago by researchers in San Diego County and they never have appeared in such profusion, Kelly said.
A few jellyfish were spotted in La Jolla in San Diego County a month ago, vanished, were later spotted 40 miles up the coast, and then appeared in profusion in Newport and Huntington beaches last week, Kelly said.
Researchers have been taking advantage of the invasion to capture and study the jellyfish, about which little is known.
"This is probably a once-in-a-lifetime-like-thing," he said. "I've been doing marine science for 30 years and this has never happened before, not in these numbers."
The population explosion may be due to a combination of factors, Kelly said. The temperature apparently is perfect for the jellyfish and they may be feasting on a type of plankton that, in turn, feeds on the microscopic plankton of the red tide.
The tide itself has lasted for five months now, compared to the usual seasonal bloom of about a month. Kelly said the phytoplankton causing the discoloration may have been feeding off of sewage dumped into the ocean and on nutrients from urban runoff.
"We've had horrendous runoff this year because of the tremendous rainfall," Kelly said.
Other species of jellyfish are common along Southern California's coast. Turner said invasions occur periodically, and he can remember, in the 1970s, people standing in line to be treated for stings.
However, some lifeguards said they had never seen as many jellyfish.
"I've never seen that many jellyfish in my 30 years of lifeguarding and 40 years of growing up around the beach. And I've never really seen that," said Newport Beach lifeguard Capt. Eric Bauer. "We treated hundreds of stings. At one point in time, there were miles of beach with no one in the water. They were so numerous that people couldn't avoid them."
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As Susan Taylor Block notes in her recent essay, the port city of Wilmington, NC is known not only for its mansions, azaleas, and beauty queens, but also for its powerful, enterprising white men including Pembroke Jones and Hugh MacRae, grandfather of Hugh Morton.
A darker, lesser-known, and certainly lesser-discussed chapter of Wilmington's history is that of the 1898 race riot, the only instance in American history of an elected government being overthrown. Spearheading the violent uprising was a group of elite Wilmingtonians, strong opponents of the "fusionist" coalition, strong believers in the supremacy of the white race . . . and outspoken among them was Hugh Morton's grandfather, a young Hugh MacRae.
Four years ago this week, the 1898 Wilmington Race Riot Commission (a state-appointed panel tasked with studying the rebellion and recommending reparative actions) released its official report, available in full here.
Back on the occasion of the 1998 centennial, historians David S. Cecelski and Timothy B. Tyson put together a seminal volume about the events entitled Democracy Betrayed: The Wilmington Race Riot of 1898 and Its Legacy. While they learned much about MacRae's role in the uprising, they never put a face to the name — that is, until Hugh Morton's photographs became available online.
What Cecelski and Tyson discovered when they looked into that face is the topic of our latest Worth 1,000 Words essay, entitled Hugh MacRae at Invershiel.
We hope you'll take some time to read this thoughtful exploration, and to consider the many layers of meaning that can be hidden in a single portrait. Let us know what discoveries you make.


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Update: The film's title has been changed from "War of the Gods" to "Dawn of War," notes The Playlist
Director Tarsem Singh, better known simply as Tarsem, has cast "Slumdog Millionaire" beauty Freida Pinto for his own upcoming epic Greek battle flick, "Dawn of War."
Pinto will play "Phaedra, an oracle priestess who must join Theseus -- played by Henry Cavill ("The Tudors") -- on his quest to prevent the cataclysmic war from erupting," reports Variety.
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"It's turning into, basically, Caravaggio meets 'Fight Club,'" Tarsem told Empire Online last fall. "It's a really hardcore action film done in Renaissance painting style. I want to see how that goes; it's turned into something really cool... I'm going for a very contemporary look... with, you know, Renaissance time with electricity. So it's a bit like Baz Luhrman doing 'Romeo + Juliet' in Mexico; it's just talking a particular Greek tale and half contemporising it and telling it."
Tarsem burst onto the scene in 1991 by winning video of the year at the MTV Video Awards for R.E.M.'s "Losing My Religion," going on to make several more videos and commercials.
He's also directed two feature films, most notably 2006's "The Fall," a gorgeous, sprawling post-modern "Wizard of Oz"-like tale of five men on a quest to defeat an evil ruler. It took four years to make, left Tarsem broke and was a commercial failure. Rent it, it's amazing.
Producers Gianni Nunnari and Mark Canton, two of the men behind "300," are backing "Dawn of War," which promises to use similar filming technology and technique. And Tarsem's visual sensibilities and "War of the Gods" should at the very least be gorgeous to look at.


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Your membership provides a voice and opportunity to leverage professional education and advocacy opportunities to improve the health of Alaskans.
Membership Benefits
- Discount at the Alaska Health Summit ($74 value)
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Celebrity Birthdays for November 28 – Paul Shaffer, Jon Stewart and More
Here's a look at some notable birthdays being celebrated today:
Paul Shaffer
Age: 62
Occupation: Composer and Bandleader
Known For: Being David Letterman's sidekick and bandleader for almost 30 years, being a member of the 'Saturday Night Live' house band in the 1970s and regularly appearing in the show's sketches, and recording with artists such as Diana Ross, B.B. King, Cyndi Lauper, Cher, and Chicago
Jon Stewart
Age: 49
Occupation: Comedian, Talk Show Host, and Maker of Awesome
Known For: Hosting Comedy Central's 'The Daily Show,' his razor-sharp satirical skills, winning 16 Emmys, and being public enemy number one of conservative politicians and talking heads the world over
Berry Gordy
Age: 82
Occupation: Entertainment Mogul
Known For: Founding the legendary Motown record label and discovering artists like The Supremes, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, The Four Tops, Gladys Knight & the Pips, The Commodores, Stevie Wonder and The Jackson 5
Randy Newman
Age: 68
Occupation: Singer and Songwriter
Known For: Satirical pop songs like 'Short People,' scoring more than a dozen films including the entire 'Toy Story' franchise, and winning two Oscars, three Emmys, and five Grammys
Judd Nelson
Age: 52
Occupation: Actor
Known For: Being a member of the beloved Brat Pack in the mid-1980s, starring as John Bender in 'The Breakfast Club,' as Alec Newbary in 'St. Elmo's Fire,' and as Jack Richmond on the TV show 'Suddenly Susan'


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"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Way to misreport the numbers, Jeff Fletcher. Hicks OPSed .900 in rookie ball. His overall minor league OPS is .792. He OPSed .735 in A last year and is OPS .776 so far this year in A ball. He's 20 years old.
If the Twins offer Hicks and Ramos, that is a pretty good package. I still think Alonso and Wood equates to a better package though. Hicks does have great speed and an awesome arm...plays great defense. Power is supposed to "develop." He kind of reminds me of Stubbs actually, although I think he is probably going to be better than Stubbs. Definitely a very good prospect, but in my opinion, he's still a question mark. I think Alonso is a better prospect right now.
If the Reds offered Stubbs and Mesoraco, that's an infinitely better package, but I'm hoping Mesoraco is not included in the package.
Alonso and Heisey is a better package. Throw in Francisco and that would allow them to move Lopez to the Mets for more prospects and it's shoulders above Ramos and Hicks. There is no need to include Wood or Mez in this deal.
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With all this talk of Cliff Lee, are people making these proposed deals w/ the thinking that the Reds re-sign him or as a 2 month rental?
This from the Twins local reporter LaVelle E. Nea by way of MLBTRl:
If the Twins are really offering Hicks and Ramos, my guess is the Reds will have to give up 2 of Mesoraco, Alonso, and Heisey, and that still may not be enough. I could live with trading 2 of those guys, although anymore than that and I'd focus my attention elsewhere, including Arizona and Houston.The Twins aren't close to a deal for Lee, a team source tells LaVelle E. Neal III of the Star Tribune (via Twitter).
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I would rather not give up Mes, but we could certainly afford to give up three prospects for a rental of Cliff Lee. Won't we get two draft choices from offering him arbitration when he turns it down? So if we gave up, say, Alonso, Heisey, and Wood, we'd theoretically get replacements for two of the three in the draft. The third player would be the actual cost of the rental. I think that's a fair price, but I'd try to avoid giving up Mes...catchers take so long to develop and he looks like he's just about there. He could be something special for years to come.
"This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -- Terence Mann
I don't think the M's are really interested as much in Wood, but if an additional piece is required, perhaps Frazier or Francisco would round out the deal.
Perhaps the rumor deal was to see if anti up the offer?
I want this deal as a Reds fan.. This team is stacked with talent in the minors that may or may not be great and most of them are blocked by talent at the big league level. It's 2+ months.. But how far did Philly get? They didn't need to make any moves and they did. Just saying this team can go from good to great with a move like this. If everyone is ok with Aaron Harang in the rotation and having our pen drained due to pitchers going 5-6 innings then so be it. I want that ace who can carry a team to not only the postseason but beyond.
"I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans
2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L
2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L
2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L
2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L
His K-rate and W-rate are as good or better than ever, and his BABIP is .340.
There appears to be little wrong with Haren this season, and since he's signed for 2 more years beyond this year (incluing his option) he's a more likely Walt target.
I went back to look at what Lee did for Philly after the trade last year. It is pretty remarkable. Not only did he pitch well to get them there, he also pitched extremely well on the big stage that is the playoffs. The Reds have no one on the pitching staff who can say they've been there, done that. Arroyo pitched mostly out of the 'pen for Boston, back in 2003-2004, and didn't fare too terribly well then either.
So post-season experience is a HUGE reason the Reds should be considering this move.
I have a love-hate relationship with Albert Pujols. Mostly hate.
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Fabulous Show - Dallas VertigoA tremendous show that I will always remember for a few reasons. The stage, the passion, the music, the surprise Angel of Harlem performance (AWESOME), and that it was the last U2 concert I saw with my wife Susan before she passed from cancer. This year I took our 2 boys to see U2360 in Dallas, Oklahoma City, and then again with my best friend "B" in Vegas. I also have tickets to take the boys to Chicago this summer for the July 6th show! Every show makes us feel closer to Susan as we hear songs such as "All I Want Is You", "Walk On", and for some reason...."BAD". Hope we hear them all. It's amazing how this music has helped my boys through this last year and a half since her passing. I know she will be there at Soldier Field on the 6th with us again.


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Zynga cracks open can-o-gloom all over 2012 outlook
OMG, OMGPOP went pop
Zynga's shares took a dive after the social gamer announced that it was writing off half the value of OMGPOP, the developer of Draw Something acquired earlier this year.
The social gaming firm cut its outlook for the year for the second time and said it expects a loss in the third quarter while also slashing up to $95m off OMGPOP's acquisition value of $182m.
Zynga pounced on the developer when its doodling game Draw Something was hugely popular, but the one-hit wonder was short-lived and it has since failed to help Zynga look like a great investment.
The game firm is now expecting a net loss of between $90m and $105m in the third quarter and its earnings in the full year to fall to between $147m and $162m instead of the $180m to $250m it previously anticipated.
Zynga chief Mark Pincus attempted to put a good spin on things on a company blog post, saying that the firm would counter its challenges with further investment in genres like casino, where it already has Zynga Poker, and player versus player games like Mafia Wars.
"There are a few factors contributing to a weaker than expected outlook for Q4," he wrote. "The reduced performance of some of our live web games is continuing to impact results and we have several new games which are at risk of launching later than expected."
"[But] let's not lose sight of the bigger picture. The world is playing games, and is increasingly choosing social games. Zynga has become synonymous with social gaming serving 311 million monthly active users, the largest player network on web and mobile. When we offer our players highly engaging content they respond."
The company is still strong in the game that made it famous, FarmVille, and it's capitalised on that success with CastleVille and then FarmVille 2. Zynga says it still has 311 million monthly active users.
Zynga's shares fell 18 per cent to $2.31 after the announcement but has since recovered slightly to $2.48. ®
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