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Berean Studies / Ber06 - Brotherly Kindness (Brotherly Love)
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1. What is the 'new commandment' given by Christ to his disciples?
2. What is brotherly love?
R3034 col. 1 ¶1, 2; R2330 col. 1 ¶3, 4
R3034 [col. 1 ¶1, 2]:
As sons of the Highest, who are seeking to be like unto our Father in heaven, and like unto the copy which he has set before us in his dear Son, our Lord, we are to have for the world in general that broad sympathetic pity and mercy-love which would delight in doing any and everything possible to be done for their uplifting, in accord with the divine program, in the divine time and order. Like our Father and our Elder Brother, we are to love the brethren "with a pure heart, fervently"-- with sincerity. This love for the brethren is nothing like the love for the world. It is not the pity-love, nor mere generosity. It is far more; it is brotherly love. All of the children of God are brethren, as new creatures; all these brethren have hopes, ambitions, interests and promises linked together in the Lord Jesus and in the heavenly Kingdom in which they hope to share. All these brethren are joint-heirs, fellow-heirs one with the other and with the Lord. They are partners; their interests are mutual and co-ordinating.
Additionally, they have a special mutual sympathy of compassion; for while, as new creatures, they are rich in divine favor and promises, they all have serious weaknesses, according to the flesh-- draw-backs; altho the Lord is not reckoning with them according to the flesh, but according to the spirit, the intention, the heart desires, nevertheless, they each and all have besetments arising from these weaknesses and imperfections of the earthly tabernacle, which cause them to "groan," and to sympathize one with the other in their groanings. As the Apostle says, "We which have the first-fruits of the spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the deliverance of our body"--the complete Church. Thus the sons of God have a further mutual sympathy and love and care for each other, an interest in each other, helpfulness toward each other, which is entirely beyond and above and outside of any feelings which could possibly be appreciated by the world or exercised toward it;--because the world has no such conflict between the old nature and the new; no such covenant of sacrifice; no such acceptance in the Beloved; no such union of heart and purpose and aim and spirit. Oh, yes! the exhortation to love as brethren, fervently, is one which appeals to us specially.
R2330 [col. 1 ¶3, 4]:
And love of the brethren does not mean merely love for a faction, or clique, or for some of the brethren who have natural qualities which we admire. It means love for all who have accepted the New Covenant and are seeking to walk by the Golden Rule of love. It means that if some have peculiarities of natural development and disposition, which are discordant to our ideas and sentiments, nevertheless, we will love and cherish them, and cheerfully serve them, because they are trusting in the Lord, and have been accepted of him, and have adopted the law of the New Covenant, the royal law of liberty and life, as their standard. We thenceforth know them not after the flesh, with its peculiarities and knots and twists: but after the new nature, as "new creatures." It means also that each of us in proportion as we discover our own natural crooks and twists, which are contrary to the law of love, will seek to get rid of these imperfections of the flesh as rapidly as possible, and to make them as little obtrusive and offensive to others as possible.
From this standpoint love will not be forever noting the defects of the various members of the body of Christ, nor holding them up to ridicule and scorn of others; but each will be, so far as possible, fully as anxious to cover the defects of others as to cover his own defects; and to sympathize with others in their conflicts with their besetments, as he sympathizes with himself, and desires that the Lord shall sympathize with him in his own conflict with his own imperfections. "If any man have not the spirit of Christ [the disposition of Christ, love] he is none of his." --Rom. 8:9.
3. Who are our 'brethren'?
4. Why is the manifestation of brotherly kindness so necessary ?
5. Is it important that we observe the spirit as well as the form of our Lord's command?
6. Why do the Lord's 'brethren' need no 'outward passwords, grips or badges'?
7. How is our love for God measured by our love for 'the brethren'?
8. Can we fellowship all 'the brethren' alike?
9. Should we always expect to have our manifestations of brotherly kindness received in the same spirit?
10. How are the comfort and peace of the Church dependent upon the manifestation of this grace?
11. How should brotherly love exercise itself in seeking opportunities for service?
R2343 col. 2 ¶3 to 2344 col. 1 ¶2
R2343 [col. 2 ¶3] through R2344 [col. 1 ¶2]:
Looking about us for opportunity of service we find our Lord's instruction through the Apostle, that we should seek to do good to all men according to our ability and opportunity, but especially to the household of faith. As we look first to the household of faith to see what service we can render, we find in this household some who are naturally more attractive to us than others, some whom we would find it a pleasure to serve; while others, because of more perverse natural conditions, we find less congenial, even repellant; and these we feel less disposed to serve. But this is because of a wrong view of the subject. We are to remember that all consecrated believers are new creatures in Christ Jesus and accepted of the Lord as members of his body, fellow-members with ourselves. From this standpoint only can we realize to the full the significance of the Apostle's words in our text, "Ye do serve the Lord Christ." The Master informs us that the slightest service done to the least of his brethren is accepted as done to himself. With this view of matters clearly in mind, we see our duty of service in a new light. We see that the brother or sister of high spiritual development and possessing more of the Lord's likeness and grace, whose company we find so congenial, and whom we would delight to serve, often needs our service far less than others who are of the same Body, acknowledged by the same Head, who have much more natural depravity, unconquered, to contend with. These need our special sympathy and love and care and helpfulness; for the proper conception of service is a desire to render some benefit: and there is the more opportunity to benefit or help those who most need assistance.
Of our Lord it is written that he "pleased not himself," in his serving. He did not come into the world on a mission of self-gratification and pleasure; but to render service. He himself said, "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many." We are to have his spirit, and the thought with us is not to be our own pleasure or convenience, but on the contrary the necessities of those whom the Lord would have us serve,--namely, those of his household most in need of our aid. We may have less pleasure, according to the flesh, in serving such than we would have in serving others, but it is not fleshly pleasure that we are seeking; and we can have as much or more spiritual pleasure serving those who are the most needy members of the body of Christ, because we realize that this is the will of our Master. It is to him that we really render the service, and our highest spiritual pleasure must be in doing those things which are pleasing in his sight. And it is because our Master has so ordered, that the household of faith is to be served in preference to any other class; consequently we are to ignore the opinions of the worldly and of the nominal church and not to seek out the most degraded people of the world, and spend our energies upon them, but we are to seek the most needy members of the body of Christ, that we may be most helpful to them. The Lord will attend to the poor heathen world in due time, and the time is now nigh at hand. The first work is, as we have seen from the Scriptures, the preparation of the body of Christ; and it is to this end that we are to "edify one another, building up one another in the most holy faith."
Another thought respecting service is that the true service of the Lord and his truth may be a small, humble and comparatively insignificant service, or a larger and more prominent service. And of course, if two opportunities for service offer, which were otherwise alike, we should choose and use the larger and the more important of the two opportunities. But we are to guard ourselves against seeking for large opportunities for service, and overlooking or intentionally passing by smaller opportunities. We believe this is a common error amongst those who seek to serve the Lord Christ. They desire to do some great thing for him; they would be overjoyed with the privilege of addressing thousands of intelligent and interested hearers. They fain would sway nations to the Lord's standard. Some would be willing to use smaller opportunities, and to address a hundred or fifty or even less, yet perhaps would think it not worth while to use the little opportunities of everyday life in speaking to one or two or three, or a dozen or a score, in a day, or of handing a tract, or of loaning a book, or of circulating tracts in the railway train, or upon the street corner. These services they would esteem too insignificant to render to the Master; they feel that they must do some great thing.
This is a serious mistake, and any who find such a disposition in their hearts should at once analyze their sentiments carefully, to ascertain whether or not they have the desire to serve the Lord, or whether theirs is a desire for self-glorification,--a desire to be identified with something great, prominent and distinguished. The Lord's rule is, not to put a new servant into a very important place. The captains in the Lord's army are expected to rise from the ranks. He tells us the process of his judgment respecting fitness for prominent service, when he says, "He that is faithful in that which is least will be faithful also in that which is greater." "He that humbleth himself shall be exalted; he that exalteth himself shall be abased." And the more we look at the principles here set forth, the more we see of their wisdom and correctness. The person who is earnest and zealous to serve the Lord, so willing and so anxious for the opportunity that he will do what his hand finds to do with his might, that is a true servant; that servant shows his love for the Master,--shows that his is not a love of self and of self-advancement. Such servants, the Lord sees, can be trusted with a more important service, and consequently, when a more important service is to be attended to, usually the Lord selects one who has been faithful in a few things, to give charge over larger things. And who would dispute the wisdom of the Lord's method? He who has not humility enough to do the smallest service for the Lord, for the truth, and for the fellow-members of the body of Christ, has not humility enough to be entrusted with any larger service; for larger service might prove a great injury to himself, since it would tend to cultivate a quality which is latent in every member of the fallen race, and one which would thoroughly incapacitate him for further service, namely, pride,--self-conceit and its concomitant evils.
12. How should brotherly love manifest itself 'in honor preferring one another'?
13. How should we 'consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works'?
14. How will brotherly love exercise itself in 'laying down our lives for the brethren'?
15. How should we manifest brotherly kindness toward the weaker brethren?
16. How will brotherly love sympathize with the more demonstrative brethren?
17. How should brotherly kindness deal with the self-seeking ?
18. How will brotherly kindness deal with brethren who lack self- control?
F148 ¶2 to 150 ¶1
F148 [¶2] through F150 [¶1]:
Another class of the consecrated, but spiritually diseased, needs consideration. These, apparently justified by faith and sincere in their consecration, seem to make little or no progress in controlling their flesh. Indeed, in some instances, it would appear that their faith in God's goodness and mercy, removing the brakes of fear, have left them rather more exposed to temptation through weaknesses of the flesh than they were at first-- when they had less knowledge of the Lord. These have experiences which are very trying, not to themselves only, but to the entire household of faith with whom they come in contact; their lives seem to be a succession of failures and repentances, some along the lines of financial inconsistencies, others along the lines of moral and social delinquencies.
What is the remedy for this condition of things? We answer that they should be distinctly informed that the New Creation will not be composed of those who merely covenant self-denials and self-sacrifices in earthly things and to walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit; but of those who, because of faithfulness in the willing endeavor to keep this covenant, will be counted overcomers by him who readeth the heart. They should be instructed that the proper method of procedure for all the consecrated is that, being made free by the Son, they should be so anxious to attain all blessings incident to divine favor, that they would voluntarily become bond-servants-- putting themselves under certain restrictions, limitations, bondage, as respects their words, their conduct, their thoughts--earnestly desiring of the Lord in prayer the aid he has promised them, expressed in his words to the Apostle, "My grace is sufficient for thee; my strength is made perfect in weakness." Each time they find that they have transgressed they should not only make amends to those injured, but also make confession to the Lord, and by faith obtain his forgiveness--they should promise greater diligence for the future, and should increase the limitations of their own liberties along the lines of weakness ascertained by their latest failure.
Thus watching and praying, and setting guards upon the actions and words of life, and bringing "every thought into captivity" to the will of God in Christ (2 Cor. 10:5), it will surely not be long until they can assure themselves and the brethren also respecting the sincerity of their hearts, and walk in life so circumspectly that all may be able to discern, not only that they have been with Jesus, but also that they have learned of him, and have sought and used his assistance in gaining victories over their weaknesses. The cases of such brethren or sisters would come under the head of what the Apostle terms "walking disorderly"--not after the example of the Lord and the apostles. In another chapter we will see the Lord's direction respecting the manner in which those weak in the flesh and who bring dishonor and discredit upon the Lord's cause should be treated by the brethren.
Here we remark, however, that so long as they give evidence of repentance for their wrong course and a desire of heart to go in the right way and of continued faith and trust in the Lord, they must be esteemed as brethren--however necessary it may be to restrict fellowship with them until they have given some outward, tangible demonstration of the power of grace in their hearts in the restraint of their fleshly weaknesses. Nevertheless, they are still to be encouraged to believe that the Lord is very merciful to those who trust him and who at heart desire his ways, although they cannot be encouraged to expect that they could ever be counted worthy of the overcoming class unless they become so earnest in their zeal for righteousness that their flesh will show some considerable evidence of its subjection to the New Mind.
19. How should brotherly kindness seek to avoid 'busy- bodying'?
20. How should brotherly love control the tongue?
21. How should brotherly love treat a slanderous report against an elder or other brethren?
22. How should the Church exercise brotherly kindness toward those who 'walk disorderly'?
23. How should the elders exercise brotherly love in reproving the 'unruly'?
24. How may we avoid judging one another as individuals ?
25. How should brotherly kindness be exercised toward brethren who have doctrinal 'hobbies'?
26. What is the relation between brotherly kindness and 'the unity of the faith'?
27. How should brotherly kindness deal with serious offenders in the Church?
28. By what rules are 'false brethren' to be judged?
29. What should be our attitude toward 'siftings' among the brethren?
30. What should be the attitude of all 'true sacrificers' toward each other and toward those who have left 'the Holy'?
31. How does brotherly kindness apply 'the Golden Rule'?
F376 ¶1, 2; F406 ¶1 to 409; R2667 col. 1 ¶1- 4 and col. 2 ¶1, 2
This divine law affects the New Creature's relationship to God. He recognizes the meaning of the expression, "Love the Lord with all thy heart, with all thy mind, with all thy being, with all thy strength." He finds no room for self here, except as self shall be fully in accord with God. This affects his relationship with the brethren, for how could he love God, whom he has not seen (except with the eye of faith), if he does not love the brethren who have God's Spirit and whom he has seen with the natural sight? (1 John 4:20,21) As he learns to consider carefully in his dealings with them, to do for them and toward them as he would that they should do for him and toward him, he finds that it effects a great transformation in life; that this is not at all the rule or law under which he himself and others have been accustomed to live, to think, to act, to speak.
He finds that as he would like brethren to act kindly toward him, and speak gently to him, so he should speak and act kindly and gently to them. As he would like to have them be patient with his imperfections and weaknesses, and to draw the mantle of charity over these human defects, so he should do toward them. He finds that as he would not like to have the brethren speak evil of him, even if the evil were true, so he should be kindly affectioned toward them, and "speak evil of no man," but "do good unto all men," especially to the household of faith. As he would not like to have others expect of him more than he could reasonably do, so he would not expect of others more than they could reasonably do. The same principle would operate also in respect to the world and its affairs. The whole course of life is thus gradually changed; and, as the Apostle suggests, this change comes in proportion as we "behold the glory of the Lord"-- in proportion as we come to appreciate and learn to copy the grandeur of the divine character ruled by this Golden Rule of perfect Justice, coupled with abounding Love.
F406 [¶1] through F409:
But if to tell uncomplimentary truth is to violate the Law of Love and the Golden Rule, what shall we say of the still more disreputable, still more unlovely, still more criminal habit so common, not only amongst the worldly and nominally Christian, but also among true Christians--that of telling about others disreputable things not positively known to be the truth. Oh shame! shame! that any of the Lord's people should so overlook the Lord's instruction, "speak evil of no man"; and that any but the merest babes and novices in the Law of Love should so misunderstand its message--that any without the most indubitable proofs at the mouth of two or three witnesses, and then reluctantly, should even believe evil of a brother or a neighbor, much less to repeat it--to slander him upon suspicion or hearsay evidence!
We Should Judge Ourselves
"If we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged [punished, corrected of the Lord]." 1 Cor. 11:31
The Golden Rule would surely settle this disposition to "gossip" about others and their affairs. What slanderer wishes to be slandered? What gossip wishes to have his matters and difficulties and weaknesses discussed either publicly or confidentially? The "world" has little else to talk about than gossip and scandal, but the New Creation should preferably be dumb until the love and plan of God have furnished them with the great theme of which the angels sang--"Glory to God in the highest; on earth peace, good will toward men." Then the "words of their mouths and the meditations of their hearts" will be acceptable to the Lord and a blessing to those with whom they come in contact.
The Apostle, commenting upon the tongue, shows that this little member of our bodies has great influence. It may scatter kind words that will never die, but go on and on blessing the living and through them the yet unborn. Or, "full of deadly poison," it may scatter poisonous seeds of thought to embitter the lives of some, and to blight and crush the lives of others. The Apostle says--"Therewith bless [honor] we God, even the Father; and therewith curse [injure] we men,...out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?" James 3:8-11
"Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh"; so that when we are gossiping about others, "busybodying" in their affairs, it proves that a large corner of our hearts, if not more, is empty as respects the love and grace of God. This thought should lead us at once to the throne of grace and to the Word for a filling of the Spirit such as the Lord has promised to those who hunger and thirst after it. If, still worse than idle gossiping and busybodying, we have pleasure in hearing or speaking evil of others, the heart condition is still worse: it is overflowing with bitterness--envy, malice, hatred, strife. And these qualities the Apostle declares are "works of the flesh and the devil." (Gal. 5:19-21) Would that we could astound and thoroughly awaken the "New Creation" on this subject; for if ye do these things ye will surely fall, and no entrance will be granted such into the everlasting Kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Fitting for the Kingdom leads us in the very opposite direction, as the Apostle Peter declares, "Add to your faith patience, brotherly kindness, love; for if ye do these things ye shall never fall; but gain an abundant entrance into the Kingdom." (2 Pet. 1:5-11) The Apostle James is very plain on the subject and says: "If ye have bitter envyings and strife in your hearts, glory not and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish." (James 3:14,15) Whoever has such a slanderous and bitter spirit has the very reverse of the Spirit of Christ, the holy Spirit, the spirit of Love: let him not lie either to himself or to others--let him not glory in his shame --let him not thus put darkness for light, the spirit of Satan for the Spirit of the Anointed.
Proceeding, the Apostle declares the secret of the confusion and unrest which has troubled the Lord's people at all times, to be in this unclean, only partially sanctified condition of the heart, saying, "where envying and strife is, there is confusion [disquiet, unrest] and every evil work." (James 3:16) If these weeds of the old fallen nature are permitted to grow they will not only be noxious but will gradually crowd out and kill all the sweet and beautiful flowers and graces of the Spirit.
R2667 [col. 1 ¶1-4 and col. 2 ¶1, 2]:
Our sins were covered from the Lord's sight, and we were treated as tho we owed him nothing, by his grace, exercised toward us through Christ Jesus and his atoning sacrifice; and this reckoned forgiveness will be made actual by and by, and the debt entirely canceled, if, according to the New Covenant we have made with the Lord, we shall prove faithful in cultivating his spirit of love and in becoming copies of his dear Son, our Lord Jesus Christ,--forgiving others as we would be forgiven by the Lord, loving, sympathizing with and helping others as we have been treated by the Lord, etc.
The parable is but an illustration of the Golden Text of our lesson, taken from the Lord's prayer: it is only so long as we are willing to forgive our debtors that we may pray with confidence to our heavenly Father and hope for his forgiveness of our trespasses. If we forgive not our fellow-creatures, and that not merely in word, but in deed and from the heart, neither will our heavenly Father forgive our trespasses, and altho he has generously covered them from his sight, and treated us as justified by faith, he would immediately remember our trespasses against us, and thus our justification would lapse or be abrogated, by a failure on our part to exercise the holy spirit toward the brethren and toward all men as we have opportunity.
From this standpoint the question of forgiveness of the brethren and forgiveness of all others is a very serious one to the Lord's people. It means that if they do not in a reasonable time develop this spirit of forgiveness, the spirit of love, the spirit of God, the holy spirit, they cannot continue to be recognized as Christ's disciples, they cannot continue to be recognized as children of God, they cannot be recognized as having their sins covered, but, on the contrary, will be treated as even more responsible than the world of mankind in general, and have executed upon them severer punishments than will be exacted from others who knew not the Master's will, and who have never tasted of his grace, and who therefore would be less culpable in the exercise of a selfish, uncharitable, ungenerous, unforgiving spirit.
We cannot suppose, however, that the Lord would expect perfection in this matter at once, from those who are still but "babes" in Christ. But his expectations are reasonable, that we should grow in grace as we grow in knowledge of him, and as expressed in the lesson of the Vine and the Branches; every branch which in due time, after due opportunity, does not bring forth the fruitage of the vine, the grapes of love (including forgiveness), will be cut off by the great Husbandman,-- no longer recognized as a branch. So in this parable, the one who had experienced such great blessing from the king, and who had been reckoned for the time an honored member of his kingdomc lass, ceased to be so regarded and so treated, and, on the contrary, was treated by the king without favor.
The Lord's people very generally find themselves in considerable trouble along the line of justice. We all recognize justice as the very foundation of all order and righteousness, and when we feel that justice is on our side it is proportionately the more difficult to freely forgive the person whom we believe to have been acting from the standpoint of injustice. There is a general tendency to require others to measure up to our standard of justice, by some sort of penance, before we forgive them. It is against this very spirit that our Lord was teaching, and to counteract which he gave this parable. We are to remember that the Lord will require us to live up to the standards we set for others. If our standard in dealing with others be one of exact justice, we may expect no mercy at the Lord's hands. (See James 2:13.) And what would this mean as respects the sins that are past through the forbearance of God, and what would it mean as respects the obligations upon us every day and every hour, to whose full requirements we are unable to measure? As we cannot come to the Lord ourselves on the score of justice, so we are not to deal with others upon that standard. As we must ask of the Lord mercy, grace, forgiveness, so we must be willing to extend to others mercy, grace, forgiveness, when they trespass against us; and as heartily, quickly and freely as we ourselves hope for.
The Lord has not laid down this rule in an arbitrary fashion, as simply saying, If you do not forgive others I will not forgive you. There is a deeper reason for it than this. He wishes to develop in us his own spirit, his own character, a likeness or copy of which was exhibited to us in the person and life of his dear Son, our Lord Jesus. It is absolutely essential, therefore, that we shall have the character he desires, or else we can never attain to the joint-heirship in the Kingdom which he is pleased to extend. Hence we are to understand that this requirement or command of forgiveness, etc., is with a view to develop us as copies of his dear Son, in order that he may bestow upon us, in due time, all the riches of his grace, contained in the exceeding great and precious promises of his Word.
32. How should brotherly love exercise itself toward the special servants of the Church?
33. How should we exercise brotherly love toward our brethren still 'in Babylon'?
34. How should brotherly kindness consider 'social obligations'?
35. What course will brotherly love dictate in the matter of 'borrowing and lending'?
36. How should brotherly love regard visiting, 'borrowing a neighbor's time '?
37. What is the relation between brotherly love and communism?
D474 to 481
D473 [¶3] through D481--Communism as a Remedy
Communism proposes a social system in which there will be community of goods; in which all property shall be owned in common and operated in the general interest, and all profits from all labor be devoted to the general welfare--"to each according to his needs." The tendency of Communism was illustrated in the French Commune. Its definition by Rev. Joseph Cook, is-- "Communism means the abolition of inheritance, the abolition of the family, the abolition of nationalities, the abolition of religion, the abolition of property."
Some features of Communism we could commend (see Socialism), but as a whole it is quite impracticable. Such an arrangement would probably do very well for heaven, where all are perfect, pure and good, and where love reigns; but a moment's reflection should prove to any man of judgment and experience that in the present condition of men's hearts such a scheme is thoroughly impracticable. The tendency would be to make drones of all. We would soon have a competition as to who could do the least and the worst work; and society would soon lapse into barbarism and immorality, tending to the rapid extinction of the race.
But some fancy that Communism is taught in the Bible and that consequently it must be the true remedy--God's remedy. With many this is the strongest argument in its favor. The supposition that it was instituted by our Lord and the Apostles, and that it should have continued to be the rule and practice of Christians since, is very common. We therefore present below an article on this phase of the subject from our own magazine:
"They Had All Things in Common"
"And all that believed were together, and had all things common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, praising God, and having favor with all the people." Acts 2:44-47
Such was the spontaneous sentiment of the early Church: selfishness gave place to love and general interest. Blessed experience! And without doubt a similar sentiment, more or less clearly defined, comes to the hearts of all who are truly converted. When first we got a realizing sense of God's love and salvation, when we gave ourselves completely to the Lord and realized his gifts to us, which pertain not only to the life that now is, but also to that which is to come--we felt an exuberance of joy, which found in every fellow-pilgrim toward the heavenly Canaan a brother or a sister in whom we trusted as related to the Lord and having his spirit; and we were disposed to deal with them all as we would with the Lord, and to share with them our all, as we would share all with our Redeemer. And in many instances it was by a rude shock that we were awakened to the fact that neither we nor others are perfect in the flesh; and that no matter how much of the Master's spirit his people now possess, they "have this treasure in earthen vessels" of human frailty and defection.
Then we learned, not only that the weaknesses of the flesh of other men had to be taken into account, but that our own weaknesses of the flesh needed constant guarding. We found that whilst all had shared Adam's fall, all had not fallen alike, or in exactly the same particulars. All have fallen from God's likeness and spirit of love, to Satan's likeness and spirit of selfishness; and as love has diversities of operations, so has selfishness. Consequently, selfishness working in one has wrought a desire for ease, sloth, indolence; in another it produced energy, labor for the pleasures of this life, self-gratification, etc.
Among those actively selfish some take selfgratification in amassing a fortune, and having it said, He is wealthy; others gratify their selfishness by seeking honor of men; others in dress, others in travel, others in debauchery and the lowest and meanest forms of selfishness.
Each one begotten to the new life in Christ, with its new spirit of love, finds a conflict begun, fightings with in and without; for the new spirit wars with whatever form of selfishness or depravity formerly had control of us. The "new mind of Christ," whose principles are justice and love, asserts itself; and reminds the will that it has assented to and convenanted to this change. The desires of the flesh (the selfish desires, whatever their bent), aided by the outside influence of friends, argue and discuss the question, urging that no radical measures must be taken--that such a course would be foolish, insane, impossible. The flesh insists that the old course cannot be changed, but will agree to slight modifications, and to do nothing so extreme as before.
The vast majority of God's people seem to agree to this partnership, which is really still the reign of selfishness. But others insist that the spirit or mind of Christ shall have the control. The battle which ensues is a hard one (Gal. 5:16, 17); but the new will should conquer, and self with its own selfishness, or depraved desires, be reckoned dead. Col. 2:20; 3:3; Rom. 6:2-8
But does this end the battle forever? No—
"Ne'er think the victory won,
Nor once at ease sit down;
Thine arduous task will not be done
Till thou hast gained thy crown."
Ah, yes, we must renew the battle daily, and help divine implore and receive, that we may finish our course with joy. We must not only conquer self, but, as the Apostle did, we must keep our bodies under. (1 Cor. 9:27) And this, our experience, that we must be constantly on the alert against the spirit of selfishness, and to support and promote in ourselves the spirit of love, is the experience of all who likewise have "put on Christ" and taken his will to be theirs. Hence the propriety of the Apostle's remark, "Henceforth know we no man [in Christ] after the flesh." We know those in Christ according to their new spirit, and not according to their fallen flesh. And if we see them fail sometimes, or always to some degree, and yet see evidences that the new mind is wrestling for the mastery, we are properly disposed to sympathize with them rather than to berate them for little failures; "remembering ourselves, lest we also be tempted [of our old selfish nature in violation of some of the requirements of the perfect law of love]."
Under "the present distress," therefore, while each has all that he can do to keep his own body under and the spirit of love in control, sound judgment, as well as experience and the Bible, tells us that we would best not complicate matters by attempting communistic schemes; but each make as straight paths as possible for his own feet, that that which is lame in our fallen flesh be not turned entirely out of the way, but that it be healed.
(1) Sound judgment says that if the saints with divine help have a constant battle to keep selfishness subject to love, a promiscuous colony or community would certainly not succeed in ruling itself by a law utterly foreign to the spirit of the majority of its members. And it would be impossible to establish a communism of saints only, because we cannot read the hearts--only "the Lord knoweth them that are his." And if such a colony of saints could be gotten together, and if it should prosper with all things in common, all sorts of evil persons would seek to get their possessions or to share them; and if successfully excluded they would say all manner of evil against them; and so, if it held together at all, the enterprise would not be a real success.
Some saints, as well as many of the world, are so fallen into selfish indolence that nothing but necessity will help them to be, "not slothful in business, but fervent in spirit, serving the Lord." And many others are so selfishly ambitious that they need the buffetings of failure and adversity to mellow them and enable them to sympathize with others, or even to bring them to deal justly with others. For both these classes "community" would merely serve to hinder the learning of the proper and needed lessons.
Such communities, if left to the rule of the majority, would sink to the level of the majority; for the progressive, active minority, finding that nothing could be gained by energy and thrift over carelessness and sloth, would also grow careless and indolent. If governed by organizers of strong will, as Life Trustees and Managers, on a paternal principle, the result would be more favorable financially; but the masses, deprived of personal responsibility, would degenerate into mere tools and slaves of the Trustees.
To sound judgment it therefore appears that the method of individualism, with its liberty and responsibility, is the best one for the development of intelligent beings; even though it may work hardships many times to all, and sometimes to many.
Sound judgment can see that if the Millennial Kingdom were established on the earth, with the divine rulers then promised, backed by unerring wisdom and full power to use it, laying "judgment to the line and righteousness to the plummet," and ruling not by consent of majorities, but by righteous judgment, as "with a rod of iron"-- then communism could succeed; probably it would be the very best condition, and if so it will be the method chosen by the King of kings. But for that we wait; and not having the power or the wisdom to use such theocratic power, the spirit of a sound mind simply bides the Lord's time, praying meanwhile, "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is done in heaven." And after Christ's Kingdom shall have brought all the willing back to God and righteousness, and shall have destroyed all the unwilling, then, with Love the rule of earth as it is of heaven, we may suppose that men will share earth's mercies in common, as do the angels the bounties of heaven.
(2) Experience proves the failure of communistic methods in the present time. There have been several such communities; and the result has always been failure. The Oneida community of New York is one whose failure has long been recognized. Another, the Harmony Society of Pennsylvania, soon disappointed the hopes of its founders, for so much discord prevailed that it divided. The branch known as Economites located near Pittsburgh, Pa. It flourished for a while, after a fashion, but is now quite withered; and possession of its property is now being disputed in the Society and in the courts of law.
Other communistic societies are starting now, which will be far less successful than these because the times are different; independence is greater, respect and reverence are less, majorities will rule, and without superhuman leaders are sure to fail. Wise worldly leaders are looking out for themselves, while wise Christians are busy in other channels--obeying the Lord's command, "Go thou and preach the Gospel."
(3) The Bible does not teach Communism, but does teach loving, considerate Individualism, except in the sense of family communism--each family acting as a unit, of which the father is the head and the wife one with him, his fellow-heir of the grace of life, his partner in every joy and benefit as well as in every adversity and sorrow.
True, God permitted a communistic arrangement in the primitive Church, referred to at the beginning of this article; but this may have been for the purpose of illustrating to us the unwisdom of the method; and lest some, thinking of the scheme now, should conclude that the apostles did not command and organize communities, because they lacked the wisdom to devise and carry out such methods; for not a word can be quoted from our Lord or the apostles advocating the communistic principles; but much can be quoted to the contrary.
True, the Apostle Peter (and probably other apostles) knew of, and cooperated in, that first communistic arrangement, even if he did not teach the system. It has been inferred, too, that the death of Ananias and Sapphira was an indication that the giving of all the goods of the believers was compulsory; but not so: their sin was that of lying, as Peter declared in reviewing the case. While they had the land there was no harm in keeping it if they got it honestly; and even after they had sold it no harm was done: the wrong was in misrepresenting that the sum of money turned in was their all, when it was not their all. They were attempting to cheat the others by getting a share of their alls without giving their own all.
As a matter of fact, the Christian Community at Jerusalem was a failure. "There arose a murmuring"--"Because their widows were neglected in the daily ministrations." Although under the Apostolic inspection the Church was pure, free from "tares," and all had the treasure of the new spirit or "mind of Christ," yet evidently that treasure was only in warped and twisted earthen vessels which could not get along well together.
The apostles soon found that the management of the community would greatly interfere with their real work--the preaching of the gospel. So they abandoned those things to others. The Apostle Paul and others traveled from city to city preaching Christ and him crucified; but, so far as the record shows, they never mentioned communism and never organized a community; and yet St. Paul declares, "I have not shunned to declare unto you the whole counsel of God." This proves that Communism is no part of the gospel, nor of the counsel of God for this age.
On the contrary, the Apostle Paul exhorted and instructed the Church to do things which it would be wholly impossible to do as members of a communistic society--to each "provide for his own"; to "lay by on the first day of the week" money for the Lord's service, according as the Lord had prospered them; that servants should obey their masters, rendering the service with a double good will if the master were also a brother in Christ; and how masters should treat their servants, as those who must themselves give an account to the great Master, Christ. 1 Tim. 5:8; 6:1; 1 Cor. 16:2; Eph. 6:59
Our Lord Jesus not only did not establish a Community while he lived, but he never taught that such should be established. On the contrary, in his parables he taught that all have not the same number of pounds or talents given them, but each is a steward and should individually (not collectively, as a commune) manage his own affairs, and render his own account. (Matt. 25:14-28; Luke 19:12-24. See also James 4:13,15.) When dying, our Lord commended his mother to the care of his disciple John, and the record of John (19:27) is, "And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home." John, therefore, had a home, so had Martha, Mary and Lazarus. Had our Lord formed a Community he would doubtless have commended his mother to it instead of to John.
Moreover, the forming of a Commune of believers is opposed to the purpose and methods of the Gospel age. The object of this age is to witness Christ to the world, and thus to "take out a people for his name"; and to this end each believer is exhorted to be a burning and a shining light before men--the world in general--and not before and to each other merely. Hence, after permitting the first Christian Community to be established, to show that the failure to establish Communities generally was not an oversight, the Lord broke it up, and scattered the believers everywhere, to preach the gospel to every creature. We read--"And at that time there was a great persecution against the Church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles," and they went everywhere preaching the gospel. Acts 8:1,4; 11:19
It is still the work of God's people to shine as lights in the midst of the world, and not to shut themselves up in convents and cloisters or as communities. The promises of Paradise will not be realized by joining such communities. The desire to join such "confederacies" is but a part of the general spirit of our day, against which we are forewarned. (Isa. 8:12) "Trust in the Lord, and wait patiently for him." "Watch ye, therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things, and to stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:36
38. Do those who have reached 'the mark' still have trials along the line of brotherly love?
39. Why is brotherly love 'one of the final and most searching tests ' of the brethren and how may we prepare to meet it?
40. What should be 'the main- spring back of brotherly kindness'?
41. What does the illustration of 'the third- quarter mark' signify?
42. Why is it important that we manifest brotherly love now ?
43. How may we become members of 'the Mary class'?
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Spikenard Mary represents one of the most beautiful elements of Christian character amongst the Lord's people from that day until the present. For be it remembered that the entire Church of Christ in the largest sense is the "body of Christ," as expressed by Jesus and also by the apostles. The Mary class, who would rather purchase perfume at a great cost whereby to serve the anointed Church, the body of Christ, than to spend the same upon themselves, is still with us, and has been of the Church for these eighteen centuries. Not only was the Head of the body anointed, perfumed, honored, comforted, cheered, but all of the members since have likewise received a blessing from this class, this spikenard Mary class. It is composed not always of the orators, the wealthy or the wise--its ministry is unostentatious and to many, especially of the world, it seems foolishness and waste--but the Lord appreciates it, and so do the members of his body who are comforted and refreshed thereby. Blessing be upon this Mary class!
Honor To Members--Honor To Head.
But if there have been members all the way down who have been comforted in this way, should we not expect some particular blessing of the kind in the end of this age, upon the "feet" members? According to our understanding we are now in the closing of this age --the Head has been glorified, many of the members of the body have passed beyond the veil, and only the feet are here. Perhaps this very picture of Mary's anointing the feet of our Lord as well as his head constitutes a type or picture of what we may expect in this present time. And here comes in a beautiful feature of the divine arrangement--we may all be of the Mary class as well as of the feet class. In other words, each member of the body of Christ may to some extent serve the fellow-members of the body, the fellow-members of the feet, as Mary served the feet of Jesus.
Let each one of the Lord's true people as he studies this matter conclude that by the grace of God he will join the Mary class, and purchase spikenard very costly and lavish it upon the feet of the body of Christ--the Church--the true members. This will mean love, sympathy, kindness, gentleness, patience and assistance and comfort. It will mean large and growing development in all the fruits and graces of the Spirit, whose combined name is Love.
Dear readers, let us each remember that while it is impossible for us to do as Mary did in this lesson, it is the privilege of each to do still more important things for each other, for the brethren of Christ now in the world, the feet members of his body. Hers was a literal perfume and in time lost its virtue; but the little acts of kindnesses and helpfulness which we may render one to another will never lose their merit in the estimation of our Lord, and never lose their fragrance to all eternity in the estimation of each other. The little things of life, the little words, the little tokens, the kind looks, the little assistances by the way, these and not great things are our possibilities, our perfumes, the one for the other.
"Wash One Another's Feet."
The washing of the feet in olden times in oriental lands was very necessary to the comfort, and hence to wash one another's feet would signify to comfort and refresh one another even in the most menial services. This is the essence of our Lord's lesson to us, that we should be glad for any opportunity for serving one another, for comforting and helping one another, however menial the service. Apply this now to the expression of our lesson. Mary washed our Lord's feet with perfume, and the Mary class, the most loving and devoted class in the Church, are to help one another, to wash one another's feet; and they are to do so not in the rudest and clumsiest manner imaginable, but, inspired by love and devotion one to another, they are to wash one another's feet with the kindness and sympathy and love and appreciation symbolized by Mary's spikenard; and their comforting of one another is to be with that love and solicitation which was represented by Mary's using the very locks of her head for her Master's feet.
We see some evidence that this love, this spikenard-Mary love and sympathy, is growing amongst the members of the Lord's body; that as they perceive the animosity of the world and the flesh and the Adversary against the Lord's anointed they are all the more devoted one to another, and all the more disposed to honor one another with care and love and sympathy, and to speak and act generously and kindly one toward another. We are glad of this--we know of no better evidence of growth in grace on the part of the consecrated. Let the good work go on until we shall have filled the house with the perfume of love, until the whole world shall take knowledge of how Christians love one another-- not in a narrow or partisan sense, but in the broad sense that Christ loved all who love the Father and all who sought to walk in the Father's ways.
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What a comforting thought it should be to all who are of Mary's attitude of mind that it is still possible to wash and to anoint the Lord's feet. His own lips have declared that, whatever is done for the least one of his consecrated followers, is accepted by him as done unto himself. Ah! blessed thought; the Lord is still in the flesh, representatively; his faithful are to be esteemed "members of his body," as new creatures. And while these are still in the flesh, the sufferings of Christ in the flesh are still in progress, and will not be finished until the last member has been glorified.--`Col. 1:24`.
Moreover, the Scriptural figure holds good: Christ is the Head of this body which is his Church, and which for eighteen hundred years has been in process of development; and now the last members of the body are here,--"The feet of him." As members of the feet class many are weary, discouraged, needing rest, refreshment and comfort, such as was bestowed upon the literal feet of the Master.
Here comes in a test with respect to the symbolic feet of Christ, similar to that with respect to the natural feet which proved the great love of Mary and the slight of love of Simon. The members of the feet class are unpopular to-day as was the Master himself in his day, with a class corresponding to the scribes and Pharisees and doctors of the Law. Only those who love the Master much and appreciate greatly their own forgiveness will love his "feet members" in the present time to the extent that they would be willing to serve them and to fellowship them; while others like Nicodemus and Simon, altho well-meaning and considerably interested, will be ashamed of the gospel of the Nazarene in the present time, and ashamed of his feet, which published to Zion glad tidings, saying, "Thy God reigneth"--the Millennial age is dawning and the reign of Christ has already begun. (`Isa. 52:7`.) But those who are ashamed either of the gospel or of its servants are ashamed of the Master and of the Father; and such cannot be recognized as "overcomers" of the world, because instead they are overcome by the world and its spirit. Such shall not be accounted worthy to progress into the full knowledge and privileges of discipleship.
How few there are who seem to have a large measure of the spirit of Mary Magdalene! How few are really very helpful to one another. How few pour upon one another the spikenard ointment of comforting words, helpful suggestions and encouragements. Those who are thus helpful will be found filled with a genuine love for the "head," for the "body" in general and even for the "feet." And the secret of their love as in Mary's case will be found to be a large appreciation of their own imperfections and of the Lord's mercy and grace toward them, in the forgiveness of their sins. The Apostle expresses the sentiments of these helpful and loving members of the body, who are the only ones who are making their calling and election sure, saying,--"For we thus judge, that if one died for all then were all dead; and that we who live should not henceforth live unto ourselves, but unto him who died for us and rose again."
44. How did Jesus show us a grand example of brotherly love and sympathy?
45. How can we fulfill Jesus' command to 'wash one another's feet'?
46. How jealously should we guard and increase this grace of brotherly kindness?
47. How may we cultivate brotherly love?
48. What additional thoughts are found in Topical Index of 'Heavenly Manna, ' under 'Love One Another'?


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If You Eat at Resto, Ask For a Side Order of Lipator
Being the ultimate glutton for punishment when it comes to fat and cholesterol-laden foods, Steingarten, his lovely wife Karen, my friend and New Orleans Times Picayune columnist Lolis Eric Elie, and I headed to Resto, the Belgian meat and fat festival of a restaurant Mr. Bruni recently reviewed in the Times. Bruni of course told me everything I needed to know in his hilarious opening:
"IT'S time for a quiz. A diagnostic test, really. This one is best taken on an empty stomach, with a napkin and a defibrillator at hand.
1. If the lamb ribs you're served are striped with garishly thick bands of fat, you ...
a) use your knife as if it were a scalpel, surgically isolating the meat.
b) quiver with joy.
2. If a tower of French fries is skirted by a deep well of mayonnaise, you ...
a) gasp, and ask for ketchup instead.
b) say a prayer of thanks.
3. If a deviled egg wobbles on a pedestal of breaded, deep-fried pork jowl, you ...
a) send it back.
b) wonder how much better the egg might taste on a double-decker pedestal of breaded, deep-fried pork jowl.
If you answered (a) to all or most of the above, stop reading now. What follows may sicken you, ruining your breakfast of low-fat cottage cheese and jeopardizing your attendance at Bikram yoga class.
If you answered (b), perk up. A terrific new restaurant named Resto serves lamb ribs just like the ones I described. Its deviled eggs really do piggyback on pork."
Here's the good news. Much of the food at Resto is crunchy, original, and utterly delicious. We had half a dozen dishes there I'd never seen anywhere else:
Deviled eggs on rafts of deep-fried pork jowl.
A phenomenal cheeseburger burger made with hangar steak, beef cheeks, fatback, and Gruyere cheese that is beefier and juicier than any hamburger I have ever had in my life.
Double cooked pork with a Belgian endive vinaigrette.
A special that night of an incredibly good pork jowl sandwich on toast.
Bitter Ballen, fried pork and veal meatballs served with a mustard aioli.
An incredibly crispy lobster tempura with green sauce and bitter almond.
I have only one question. If these dishes are part of the prototypical Belgian diet, does any Belgian live to be thirty? Forty, maybe? Fifty, possibly?
Which leads me to the bad news about Resto. As we know, I love fat, pork, and beef more than life itself (no pun intended). That could be seen as a death wish if my cholesterol levels weren't so shockingly low. But even I found the food at Resto exceptionally and excessively fat-laden (and we're not talking about Mediterranean diet olive oil fat here). Deliciously but aggressively fat-laden.
So Resto will be an occasional, maybe a semi-annual excursion for me, unless they start putting bottles of Lipator on each table as both a preventive and remedial measure. Otherwise you might find yourself having to get a signed note from your cardiologist to get in.
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- As the final resting place of the Welsh Saint Valentine – Saint Dwynwen – Anglesey has always been a popular destination for lovers.
- Royal couple Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge set up their first home here soon after they were married, so you can couple your romantic break with some Royal-spotting too.
- Holiday makers also flock here to enjoy its captivating seascapes. It is connected to mainland Wales by two bridges, crossing the turbulent tidal waters of the Menai Strait.
- The island has its own airport, and is also connected to Ireland via ferry.
- From Cardiff, Anglesey is about 4 hours and 30 minutes north by hire car or coach. If you happen to be coming from Dublin however, it's only a 2 hour ferry trip across the Irish Sea to the island's port at Holyhead.


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How Your Prostate Cancer Is Staged
Prostate cancer is staged both by microscopic evaluation from a biopsy or prostate surgery, and by clinical exam and radiology studies (bone, CT, and/or PET scans).
Grade/Gleason score. To find your Gleason score, a pathologist will examine a sample of your prostate cancer cells under a microscope and assign it a number between 2 and 10. The lower your score, the less likely your cancer is to grow and spread rapidly. According to studies at the Prostate Cancer Research Institute in Los Angeles, a Gleason score is the best possible measure of how aggressive cancer cells are.
TNM level. Your pathologist will determine how extensive the disease is by using the TNM system, which stands for tumor (size), nodes (cancer present or not) and metastasis (cancer spread to distant organs). A number is assigned to each category. Once the TNM categories are determined, this info is combined with the grade to create an overall stage, from 0 for noninvasive to IV for the most invasive (see below). However, most commonly, clinicians will refer to the "T stage" as in "T1c," which means the cancer was detected only because of an elevated PSA. More detail on staging can be found here.
Stages of prostate cancer
I—Invasive: These cancers cannot be felt during a digital rectal exam (DRE) or seen with an imaging test. They are likely to grow slowly.
II—Invasive: These cancers can be felt during a DRE but have not spread beyond the prostate.
III—Invasive: These cancers have broken through the prostate capsule.
IV—Invasive: Metastatic (has spread to other parts of the body, such as the bladder, rectum, bones, liver, lungs or lymph nodes)
Review your pathology report and radiology studies (if any) with your healthcare provider to make sure you have a thorough understanding of your cancer. That will help you make the best treatment decisions and learn how to be a proactive member of your health team.


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Oct. 10 Hiroki Kuroda postgame interview
Q. First playoff start here at Yankee Stadium. Do you feel as good as you have most of the year, and what was the key to lasting until the ninth inning?
HIROKI KURODA: Yes, I was a little bit nervous, but overall I felt pretty much the same way as I did during the season.
Q. Joe said he thought the extra rest for you helped. Did you feel that out there?
HIROKI KURODA: I think it was really beneficial for me having this rest because throughout the season I kept the rotation mostly every five days, but having the rest really did me a favor.
Q. What was your reaction to Raul's home run in the ninth inning?
HIROKI KURODA: It seemed like it was something out of a cartoon (smiling). It was unbelievable.


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When Gregory Klemmer's father was in the hospital awaiting surgery for cancer, he knew the situation was dire. He also knew he had to say something poignant to help his hero through it.
"I said, 'You're going to go 4-for-4, just like Tony Gwynn," Klemmer recalls. Sure enough, his father made it through the surgery.
Klemmer had the privilege to tell that story to Gwynn a few years later when he saw Gwynn in the San Diego Airport.
"I had his full attention. He had tears in his eyes and he gave me a big hug," Klemmer said.
The stories of Gwynn's greatness were told all around Petco Park this morning, as fans came to pay their respects to "Mr. Padre" next to the statue that bears his name and likeness.
Gwynn died of cancer today at the age of 54. But his memory will live on forever in the hearts of so many Padres fans.
Summer Serrano, President of the San Diego Madres non-profit organization to encourage youth baseball, had tears in her eyes as she recalled Gwynn's impact on baseball and the community.
"He's always been the most amazing, giving person I've ever met," said Serrano, who met him when she was 16 and worked on his charity golf tournament. "He was so good to the fans and the fans knew it. … To know we're not going to hear that laugh anymore, it's not right."
San Diego resident Steven Casillas left flowers and a note for Gwynn at his statue, just like he did for Hall of Fame broadcaster Jerry Coleman, who died earlier this year.
"I know he knows what he meant to San Diego," Casillas said of Gwynn's legacy.
Fans were torn as to their greatest memory of Gwynn on the field. Many talked about his home run off the façade of the upper deck in Yankee Stadium during Game 1 of the 1998 World Series. Others remembered his induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2007.
Padres fan Mark Brown remembers seeing him get five hits in a game at the old Jack Murphy Stadium, a feat Gwynn accomplished nine times (second most in baseball history only to all-time hits leader Pete Rose).
"How many people do you get to watch go 5-for-5?" asked Brown, who was wearing his signed Gwynn jersey this morning. "We were all yelling for him. I'd hate to be that pitcher."
Brown also was in attendance for Gwynn's speech after getting his 3,000th hit in 1999.
"I was sitting in the second deck over third base," he remembered. "It was just so exciting."
Larry and Mary Anne Berrones were also at the stadium that day, sitting down the first-base line. They were at Petco with flowers and balloons for Gwynn this morning.
"When you went and saw the emotion," Larry recalls of the day. "You can't re-enact that."
The theme of family resonated throughout the crowd all morning for Gwynn, who played with his brother Chris and mentored his son, Tony Jr., a current player for the Philadelphia Phillies. Gwynn is considered an honorary family member by many fans who never even met him.
"He's my idol, my hero," said Chris Ayala, 20, who left a Padres hat on the Gwynn statue. "I saw him once, with my dad. It was the first game he ever took me to. I'll never forget it."
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Oct. 8 Bruce Bochy workout day interview
Q.Are you ready to name a Game 4 starter?
BRUCE BOCHY: Yeah, Barry Zito. He will start Game 4. That's the plan, and he's set to go. He took a pen yesterday, so he's got Game 4.
Q. Could you give us a little information on why you chose Barry, say, over Tim Lincecum for this? What went into the decision?
BRUCE BOCHY: Well, I think you have to look at what Barry's done, how we have played the last 11 games that he's pitched and he's really just done a terrific job for us.
He's won some big games. He's been really on top of his game, and I think he's earned this. We all do. I'm glad to be able to tell Barry that he's getting the start. When you win your last 11 games that a pitcher starts it's a pretty good thing. So that's why he's getting the start tomorrow.
Q. Was it the plan that Tim Lincecum was not going to start in this series essentially when you came into this?
BRUCE BOCHY: Pretty much. I talked to Timmy about it and said there is a good possibility that he would not get a start. We used him in the bullpen to help out there, which he did give us two solid innings yesterday, and he should be available tomorrow, even, if we need him short.
He's pretty resilient and didn't throw a lot of pitches and if not tomorrow the next day and following day.
Q. Tomorrow could be an elimination game. Did you put thought on Matt Cain coming back given how few pitches he threw the other day?
BRUCE BOCHY: Yeah, sure, we put thought in it, but this is more a case with rewarding Zito with how he's been pitching and the job he's done and I think he's earned this. Instead of pushing a starter back on short rest and there is a history of that not working too well and this would have been the first time that we have asked Matt to do this this year we decided to go ahead and go with Barry.
Q. Bruce, Billy's career numbers haven't been that good here. Is that something you decided was in the past and you went more with how he's pitching lately?
BRUCE BOCHY: Right, like any player, hitter, they don't have good numbers against a certain pitcher or against a certain club it's more about how they're doing at the time. And I think Barry, if you look at the success he's had the second half and, again, some huge games that he has won for us. He has stopped losing streaks during the season. Again, I think he's earned this. It's not like he's seen this club a lot, but I think it's, again, more of a case that he's throwing the ball well and he's earned this.
Q. As you look at last night did Tim Lincecum warm up underneath the tunnels last night, or was it just go out there, stretch a little bit, fling a couple of balls and he's in the game?
BRUCE BOCHY: He's pretty close to doing that when he starts a game, too. He doesn't throw very many pitches. We placed him on toss and he assured Righetti that "I'm good to go. I'm ready to go," and he got confused there because he thought we were waiting for the pitcher to get up. He went out there and it probably worked well for him, there wasn't a lot of thinking going on and he got called out there and had some of his best stuff in command.
Q. In talking to the Reds, they have pointed to a different between 2010 and this year when they didn't make it out of the first round as experience being a big thing for them this year. You guys are experienced team having made a World Series run in 2010. So is the lesson that the difference between this year and then is that the playoffs can be a little bit of a crap shoot?
BRUCE BOCHY: Yeah, and you know that going in. You work so hard to get to the playoffs and you understand, especially in the first series, best out of 5, it can become a little bit of a crap shoot, when you catch a team, how well they throw, balls falling in, base hits, things like that and they have played very well.
We haven't pitched as well as we have all year and they have done a petty good job on our pitching, and that's the unfortunate part of a short series, there is not a big margin of error. Hopefully you play your best ball and get great pitch and go get those timely hits which we have not gotten and they have on their side.
Q. There is no way to tell if a team is playing and then at the end of September win a playoff series. Is there any indicator with your team coming down the stretch or you sort of enter and hope for the best?
BRUCE BOCHY: No, we felt good with how we had been playing, after we clinched and had took the next two series, we lost the series in LA, but the first game could have gone either way. Won a tie game the second game and gave guys rest the last game, but I thought they did a great job of keeping their focus and continuing to play good baseball. We were all set. We felt comfortable starting when we did. But, again, our two pitchers were off a little bit when you compare what they have done all year, and the bats were quiet yesterday. You've got to tip your cap. Arroyo threw very well and the first game we did hit balls hard. We couldn't get a couple of them to fall in that might have changed that game a little bit, but we know where we are, and we have our work cut out. It is the best of five and we'll come out ready to go tomorrow.
Q. When you speak about Zito you sound committed and comfortable in him. So why didn't you name him sooner? What advantage did you gain? What was the process of making you wait until today?
BRUCE BOCHY: I don't know if there was really any logic I could give you why we delayed. I think more than anything we had a plan, but you never know what's going to happen. You saw what happened to them the first game. They lost their starter. Game could have gone extra innings yesterday.
So it was just that we were waiting to see how the first two games would go and didn't feel like we had to name the four starters because we did want them available in the bullpen, if necessary. At the same time, they had a good idea. But they also knew that if we needed them the first couple of games, then we would change the rotation a little bit. So that's really the only reason I can give you why we didn't name our four starters, because we didn't want to have to change it if something happened in the first two games.
Q. Did you at all or would you at all weigh what a guy has done for an organization in the past, or is it all about now? Talking about what Tim has done for with the team over the years versus what Zito has done over the last 11 starts, is that at all in the equation?
BRUCE BOCHY: Sure, it is, you have to look at what Timmy has done, but you have to look at the present and that's what we have done. We've looked at this year and recent history with how Barry has been throwing the ball and I'll say Vogelsong, too.
Now, with that said, Timmy is on the staff and we think we need some help in the bullpen and we think he has the possibility of really helping us in the bullpen if needed. He showed that yesterday, and, again, he's going to be available the next three games.
It's never easy to make a call like this, but you want to do what you think is right in the present and that's what we did just like in 2010 Barry was struggling and was not on our roster.
Q. Regarding the intensity level, when you guys clinched in 2010 you went right into the postseason, this year you clinched with more than a week to go and you lost your first two games. Is that at all part of this, is there any intensity
BRUCE BOCHY: I like to think not. Cincinnati clinched the same day we did. I think we were looking at really the same scenario, where we had quite a few games left before postseason. We had two days off. We felt like we had pitchers set to go. We were able to control that a little bit as far as just resting them a little bit or trying to limit their pitches, and I don't think it really has played a part in what's happened the first two games.
Matt Cain went out there and gave us everything he had, just like Madison Bumgarner. I assure you these hitters are trying. They pitched great yesterday, really, both games but I'm not going to use that as an excuse, the fact that we clinched early. We got on a roll in 2010, but we felt like we were on a roll coming into the playoffs.
We won 94 games and some of them after we clinched and I felt good about how the guys kept going out there and keeping their concentration and winning ballgames.
Q. What were the conversations like that you overheard on the plane today? Last night Madison said there wasn't much conversation at all in the clubhouse among the players. What are the things that you were hearing on the plane now that the players had a night to absorb what happened in San Francisco?
BRUCE BOCHY: I think more than anything, they just were relaxing back there, doing what they normally do. Some guys were playing cards. We did have some family on the trip, wives and they were watching movies. Not any different than any trip we take, so I can't say I noticed anything different about any conversations that were going on.
Q. No National team has come from an 0 2 deficit in a Division Series. The Reds haven't lost a series at home all year. What sort of mindset do you need to give your team to dig themselves out of a hole?
BRUCE BOCHY: I think you have to remind them it's the best of 5 and you may be going against odds. You understand that, but it's happened before in baseball and there has been a lot of different teams that have mounted pretty good come backs.
You can go back, Boston, they had to win 4 in a row. Sure, it's difficult but it's, again, the best out of 5, you have to win that third game. We are alive, and more than anything you have to have the attitude "never say die" and you come out here, you play hard and you see what happens.
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- The StageTrix Pedal Riser units let you raise stompboxes in the second row of your pedalboard for easier activation, and they also feature a center channel for neater cable routing.
- The Furman SPB-8C measures 28.5" x 20.125" and features a hardshell case with wheels and an extendable handle, as well as 12 power outlets (eight 9-volt DC and four 120-volt AC).
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Once you choose the right pedalboard you need to make sure your stompboxes stay in place. Otherwise, you risk damaging your precious investments. And for guys who obsess over tone, it's not just pedals that cost a chunk 'o change— it's also the specialized power supplies, patch cords, and cables.
Although Velcro and generic hook-and-loop fasteners have been ubiquitous on pedalboards for a long time now, other solutions are coming on the scene, too. Some players have moved on to 3M's Dual Lock, while products like Godlyke's Power-Grip pedalboard tape (Street $19.95 for one meter, godlyke.com) are made specifically for keeping pedals in place. Each method has its pros and cons, but when you consider them all, which is the best way to keep pedals on a board?
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"While Dual Lock and other materials like it tend to hold pedals in place stronger, the ease of use, ease of removal and wide availability of Velcro has made it the preferred method. The adhesives used on most Velcro products are usually not as permanent and, therefore, are easier to remove with minimal residue or damage to a pedal. A lot of folks I've seen over the years have chosen to use Dual Lock and later regretted the decision when it came time to reconfigure their board or sell a pedal. I recommend Dual Lock only when someone knows exactly what pedals they want and the order they want them in—and they don't plan on changing them for a long time. There are very few people I've ever met who are so satisfied with their pedal setup that they will leave it alone for more than six months."
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:27 am
Post subject: how to choose a freestyle fin for new board
I recently upgraded my board to the 85L fanatic freewave. I'm 120lbs and coming from an 80L prior, this board is feeling too big for me. It rides smooth, but sluggish. I really didn't want a Buick. But I did want something floaty for trying new freestyle moves (working on vulcan stuff now) and for lighter wave days. A friend says I should not give up on the board until I try out different fin setups, because the factory fin, 27cm, is probably too big.
So I'll probably actually get two new fins: a pure wave that's maybe around 21 cm, then also a freestyle fin. The area where I do freestyle has seaweed, and they do make a freestyle weed, but do these still work well for freestyle? Also, how do you pick a size? This is the one our local shop offers.
2 fins are expensive, so I wanted to get advice before buying. thank you.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:07 pm
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27 is definitely too long for FS, especially at your weight and board size. Thinking about weed fins, you should get something no longer than 18cm. Here is one other option for you, slightly cheaper:
If you are really serious about freestyle, get the 15cm version - will be the right one for your small board. The main benefit of the small fin is really not that it slides better (it does, but it is minor benefit on the Vulcan), but that it forces you to ride much more upright rather than hiked out over the water. This is really the critical part of freestyle - you have to be over the board to make any of the jumpy moves.
But if the Vulcan is really a high priority, you should seriously consider a dedicated freestyle board. The FSW shape is really sub-optimal, especially if you are just learning. Just the curved nose by itself will make the Vulcan much harder. You really want a flatter nose that will catch quickly and make you spin. Also helps to have a fat tail which will not sink easily.
Good luck with it. Hopefully you'll get not just the Vulcan, but Spock too - that move is 10 times more fun.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:30 pm
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Agree with Nikita. One fin you could try is a
15 cm Kaku
. My wife bought one based on a recommendation from Margaret at the Avon Sail House. She sailed it for the first time yesterday on 77 l Goya One, 4.7 m Ice, well powered. She was very happy with it. Her go-to fin up until today was a Makani Naia 18 cm, but she had problems going upwind with this fin the first few times she sailed it.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:20 pm
Post subject: Re: how to choose a freestyle fin for new board
amarie wrote:
fins are expensive, so I wanted to get advice before buying.
When the freestyle fever surged ahead of the design and availability of dedicated freestyle fins just a few years ago, many recreational and professional freestylers were simply cutting down larger fins. Think about that; if you're cutting down and refinishing a fin anyway, the condition of its edges is largely unimportant, and since top speed is no longer a goal, altered foils are not a big deal. Fins with ragged edges are pretty much free, and we're much more willing to whack away at a free or $5 fin than we are a $125 fin. Thus a first (and second, and third, ad finitum, until ya go too far) approximation is to get an old fin with an appropriate rake, compare it to a new $125 freestyle fin, remove from the old fin whatever doesn't look like the new fin, and smooth/fair/bevel the edges. Keep removing material, primarily length, until it's as loose as you want. Most swap meets include a box of old fins for dirt cheap, if not free.
Mike \m/
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:27 pm
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I'm new to short board freestyle, but know about dealing with weeds. I've recently been using the Makani Naia in 21cm and 24 cm. These fins have successfully shed any weeds both on our local waters, and on Hatteras. They've also proven themselves to me, to be fast, quick to plane and once powered up, stayed up wind pretty well.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:48 pm
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The new Makani Koi weed works great! I have it in 15cm. For spins and slides it's loose, but it has more surface area than regular freestyle fins so it offers more grip in a straight line. Because of this fin, I no longer dread packing my regular Koi's away when the weeds show up.
I have used it to do some light wind wave sailing on my freestyle board and it works, but is not the same as a true wave fin. I would recommend the 18 Naia as well if you're scared of dropping to 15cm, but nothing bigger if you seriously want to learn the Vulcan. Too big a fin is your greatest enemy with that move.
Makani fins are rider developed in real world conditions so if you deal with weeds you can bet they're were tested in weedy conditions (Mike Burns and myself put the Koi weed to the test on the south shore of long island before Makani put it into production)
Good luck!
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:52 pm
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Thank you! These are all good things to think about. I'll check out your suggestions.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:27 pm
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Yeah, much smaller fin.
16-18 pure wave is plenty for your weight, up to 5.3 sails.
Cutting down a pure wave fin might be one cure, as you can buy them for 10 bucks at swap meets.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:28 pm
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Zirtaeb--when you say 16-18 pure wave you mean just a regular wave fin, right? Not a weed or freestyle?
I'll have to check the size of my old fin...I've never thought about this much before. Zirtaeb and Isobars--I did think about the grinding thing. I remember grinding down my first fin years ago (A box, it's lasted me forever). The only problem here is that regular power box fins can always be found in the bargain bin, but weed fins are tough to find used. But I'll keep an eye out.
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Short wave fins shed weeds very well. It's 20+ that catches the weeds on the base of the leading edge.
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Frunk turbines
Frunk turbines
You must be joking, right?
Why not put one on the roof....... LOL
Where would the energy to turn the turbine come from?
This is a common error. Go study some basic physics.
Or build your own perpetual motion machine, if you can. LOL.
Perpetual Motion in itself would be a nice curiosity if it were even achievable lol!! Problem gets even worse though. In order to get a perpetual machine to do work, you need (more energy out than put in) in other words it needs to make more power than it uses to keep itself running. Something has to propel the car or whatever load one places on the machine..... time for physics 101
Yeah, you wouldn't want to increase the drag of the vehicle in pushing the blades.
I'm no wind engineer, but if you want to talk theoretically - along the lines of a solar panel to keep the battery from depleting, I wonder if it would be practical to pop up a turbine if the car detects sufficient wind while parked. Where I am it can get very gusty sometimes. Probably not - additional moving parts for something that wouldn't get used all that often if it would even add that much charge, plus it would seem an invitation to vandalism. Maybe someone knows something about bladeless technology?
This is getting real funny. LOL.
rmoeller3, this is common mistake in thinking people make.
The reason wind turbines located anywhere on the car will not help (in fact it will waste energy) is because the energy to turn the turbines will come from the air rushing past the car. However, why is air rushing past the car? Well air is rushing past the car because you are using energy from the battery to move the car through the air. So in effect, if you put wind turbines on the car, you will use energy from the battery to turn the wind turbines. This complete waste of energy unless perhaps the spinning wind turbines just makes you happy. In that case, it's probably better to just buy some pinwheels and tape them to your car. :)
@ rmoeller3
Oh brother... The short answer to your question is .. Yes, it would generate energy, Problem is ..as explained by "olanmills" it would create an equal energy loss due to increased drag. So at the end of the day you have a "zero sum gain" you simply cannot extract energy from propulsion to perpetuate further propulsion on the same conveyance.
Remember (For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction)
You cannot get around it.
Furthermore, the net result would be more loss (not just equal) than gain. No conversion process can be 100% efficient.
zero sum is the very best, and unachievable, result. 100% efficient conversion at every stage would be necessary. Negative sum would actually be what happens.
Correct! Brian, I was just attempting to keep it as simple as possible, and not further muddy the water by injecting efficiency losses, hoping to perhaps make it easier to be understood by the OP "if possible".
Also, even a 100% efficient magically frictionless turbine and no resistance charging system would not mean that the car runs on a net zero amount of energy. That would be impossible. It means only that the you might be able to get the turbine itself to turn with a net zero amount of energy used.
right, it would mean you didn't actually end up slowing yourself down. Which is the inevitable real world result.
Think you all might be taking the question to the extreme. Of course one or more turbines wouldn't be enough to completely offset the energy usage of the vehicle. The question is, could a turbine system produce more energy than the vehicle uses to overcome the increased drag of the turbines? In other words, given that you'd be driving the vehicle ANYWAY, could that turbine system produce enough energy to simply increase the effective range of the vehicle?
This might only make sense at higher speeds, in which case having a way to dampen/shut off the flow of air through the turbines under less than ideal conditions might improve overall efficiency. This would compare to the "pop up" rear spoiler on some Porsche models that stays flat to the rear of the vehicle until it reaches such speed that the spoiler would actually provide a benefit to the aerodynamics of the vehicle.
Still not sure such a system would be feasible, since aerodynamics, torque, and wind power are not my normal wheelhouse. Just thought you all might be missing a pretty important point.
PS. If Tesla (or anyone else on here) figures out how to do this, I expect fair compensation. :)
Maybe if we all mark this thread as inappropriate it will go away?
One turbine slows you down a little. A hundred turbines slows you down a lot. Next question?
In a perfect world, Regenerative braking would fully charge the battery back up. No need for a wind turbine on the car.
WOW... OMG. that is the only thing I can say.
@totalmedia, the answer to both of your questions is 'No'.
It's basic physics. I'm asking the following question in a serious manner, so that if you explain your reasoning, I might be able to explain it in a way that makes sense, or you may just see it for yourself:
You said, "Of course one or more turbines wouldn't be enough to completely offset the energy usage of the vehicle."
So why is it obvious to you that you can't use turbines to fully power the car, but you think it might be able to return some energy to the car?
There is only one, and only one, possible way wind turbines can provide energy to the car: If the car was sitting absolutely still, and the wind was blowing against a turbine, you could charge the battery (very slowly, unless you had an absolutely huge turbine, lol).
Right now, I can't really think of a better explanation other than what I already said before. If you put wind turbines on a vehicle, it is the vehicles's forward motion, driven by its fuel source, that will be cause the turbines to turn. Think about if the car was driving through perfectly still air. There's no free "wind". Any "wind" that a passenger would feel is because the car is moving through the air, not because the air is not blowing past the car. In order for the car to gain energy, then energy must be lost somewhere else, but in this situation, there is no energy to be gained. In the real world, if there was actually wind blowing against the car, that would just make it even harder for the car to move forward. If you put a turbine on the car, taht would make it even more difficult. Against a head wind, the car has to use power to overcome the wind. If you throw a turbine on there, now the car has to use power to overcome the wind and turn a turbine. You would use even more power.
Think about running, and then running with a big pinwheel. Which would take more effort? Now, imagine you attached the pinwheel to a dynamo. have you ever tried a hand cranked dynamo? Do you understand how hard they are to turn? It uses a lot of energy. And, even if it was magically 100% efficient, then all that means is you would put as much energy into turning it as you could draw out of it, leaving you no better off.
Another simple explanation: Turbines, dynoms, electricity, and knowledge of physics have been around with us for a long time. If adding turbines to vehicles did anything useful, then they'd be on every kind of vehicle we have. However, they are on absolutely none.
I find it absolutely surprising and ironic that anyone interested in, let alone driving a car as advanced and smooth as a Tesla would not understand basics physics. I thought understanding physics was a prerequisite to appreciating such a great car, or at least that having no clue whatsoever about physics was a prerequisite to tolerating an ICE vehicle.
Forget wind turbine or any such machinery on a car, obviously, but someone mentioned solar panels. My understanding is that on a high performance car like the model S or Roadster, it wouldn't really make a difference and therefore isn't worth the added cost, trouble, worry, and weight. I think the trend is for Tesla cars to become less luxury and performance-geared and more economical and (perhaps) more energy efficient, or at least as an option for the latter. That's how I understand Elon's strategy, that performance and luxury sells, but the goal is something practical, affordable, and efficient for everyone to have (by that I mean the common folk). So, yes, when cars are so energy efficient that they use a fraction of the power of a model S 40 kWh even, it will make a lot of sense to have solar panels on the roof, and bicycle pedals for the driver in my opinion (human-electric hybrid). But the trouble for now is that appeals to a select crowd of radicals who have in the past insisted that everyone should drive that type of vehicle, in the vision. The genius of Elon et al is to see the road to get there, which goes through a town called Getting-people-excited-in-something-new-and-flashy instead of that other town called Alienating-them. I'm personally extremely excited about the model S, but also very excited about what will come later because anyone who understands physics, and apparently also even those who don't have a clue, at least sometimes wonder to what extent we could reduce our energy use and be self-sufficient on that front. To me, the ability to jump in your car and go incredibly far without being limited or discouraged by the cost of the energy that you need, that is one form of true freedom. I think it will come someday, because some people will demand it.
Reducing energy use is the exact opposite of all human advancement. The Model S uses energy better and more efficiently, and its improvement will come when it can store and use even more, more efficiently.
Brian, basically what I meant to say is that some people appreciate performance (at some of them are willing to pay for it), and some people appreciate efficiency and range. Ideally, you could have both in a car, as the model S is proving. This might seem like a lot compared to ICE cars, but I'm sure in time they will pushed to the limit, and what that happens, people will again be able to decide whether they want something more like a sports car or a Honda Civic. When we are there will electric cars, ICE vehicles will really appear like the dinosaurs that they are, if that isn't already clear.
Great reference to xkcd, Tiebreaker!