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- Creditor
- A creditor is a person or institution that lends money to another. The creditor is then owed that money, usually with interest.
What is a Creditor?
The term 'creditor' refers to a person or institution that has loaned money to another person or business.[1] Another term for loaning money is "extending credit". The person or institution to which the money is lent is the "debtor."
After credit has been extended to the borrower, the creditor is then owed that money back, typically with interest.
What is interest?
Interest is an amount of money that a lender charges a borrower in exchange for a loan. In other words, inteterest is the cost of borrowing money.[2]
Interest is usually a certain percentage of the principal loan amount that is charged over a specific period of time. For instance, a $1,000 loan with a 10 percent annual interest rate would charge the borrower $100 over the course of one year. Likewise, a $100, 14-day payday loan with a 15 percent interest rate would cost the borrower $15 every two weeks.
What are the different types of Creditors?
A person can become a "personal" creditor by lending money to friends and family. Sometimes, but not always, a personal creditor will not charge interest on the loan and will only ask for repayment of the principal amount. While it is up to every personal creditor whether or not they want to charge interest, it is rarely a good idea to issue a loan without some kind of written agreement between both parties.
Lending money is a business, which is why professional creditors always charge interest. Similarly, creditors always want to be sure that the person or business they are lending to will be able to afford the loan. If the debtor is unable to repay, that means the creditor will lose money. Sometimes, creditors will make the borrower put up a valuable piece of property as collateral in order to secure the loan. Other times, the creditor will only lend to a borrower if they have a good credit score.
Loans that are backed by collateral are referred to as secured loans. Collateral can be any kind of valuable property. If the borrower is unable to repay the loan, the creditor can "repossess" the collateral and then sell it in order to make up their losses. Two of the most common kinds of secured loans are mortgages and auto loans. Mortgages are secured by real estate; auto loans are secured by motor vehicles. Since the collateral protects creditors against potential losses, secured loans usually come with lower interest rates.
Loans that do not involve any kind of collateral are referred to as "unsecured" loans. When there is not collateral to protect creditors against potential losses, these loans oftentimes come with higher interest rates. When deciding whether or not to issue an unsecured loan, lenders will usually check the borrower's credit score and credit report. This allows them to determine whether or not a potential debtor will be likely to repay the loan they are asking for.
What are credit reports and credit scores?
A person's credit report is a document that details their history of credit use. Most information on a credit report goes back seven years, but some information, like bankruptcies, can stay on a report for longer. Credit reports are compiled by the three major credit bureaus: Experian, TransUnion and Equifax.[3]
A person's credit score is based on the information in that person's credit report. The FICO score, which ranges between 300 and 850, is the most commonly used kind of credit score.[4] The higher a person's credit score, the more creditworthy they are deemed to be, and the more likely they are to be approved for a loan.
What is the difference between a lender and a Creditor?
People and institutions become creditors by loaning out money to others. In many ways, being a creditor is the same thing as being a lender, though there are some important differences. In order to be a lender, a person or institution must be the one to actually lend out the money. To be a creditor, that person or institution must simply be the entity to which repayment is due. The lender and the creditor are not always the same business.
Sometimes, a lender will make a loan to a person or business and then sell that debt to another institution. That second institution then becomes the creditor, even though they did not issue the original loan. This is often what happens when a person has past due payments on a debt and is sent to collections. Many collections agencies will buy the outstanding debt from the lender—oftentimes for pennies on the dollar. The collections agency then becomes the creditor and attempts to collect as much of the debt from the debtor as they can.[5] In these situations, the lender is often able to simply write off the loss on their taxes.
What kind of businesses are Creditors?
Any kind of business that either lends money or buys debt from a business that does can be a creditor. The most common types of creditors are:
- Banks
- Credit Unions
- Personal Lenders
- Mortgage Lenders
- Auto Lenders
- Payday Lenders
- Title Lenders
- Collections Agencies
- Small Business Lenders
- Governments
What happens if a debtor cannot repay a Creditor?
When a borrower is unable to meet their obligations on a debt, it is called "defaulting." If a borrower defaults on a secured loan, then the creditor has the right to claim ownership of the debtor's collateral. When a homeowner can no longer afford their mortgage, the creditor who owns their mortgage debt is legally allowed to seize their house. This process is called "foreclosure." When a person stops making payments on their auto or title loan, the lender or creditor can seize whatever motor vehicle was put up as collateral. That process is called "repossession."
If a person defaults on an unsecured debt, they will likely be sent to collections. This can either mean that the lender attempts to collect on the debt themselves, or that they have sold the debt to an independent collections agency. Many collections agencies have been known to use aggressive, sometimes-illegal tactics to pressure borrowers to repay. Sometimes, creditors will take borrowers to court and have their future wages garnished until their debt is repaid.
What happens is a debtor cannot repay any of their Creditors?
In cases like this, a borrower has four options:
- They can talk to a credit counselor, who will help them create a budget and form better financial habits. If those steps are not enough, the counselor can set up the debtor with a Debt Management Plan (DMP). Under a DMP, the counselor negotiates with their client's creditors in order to secure more favorable terms, such a lower interest rates or monthly payments. Credit counselors will not negotiate a reduction in the total amount owed. The debtor issues funds directly to the credit counselor, who then makes payments to the assorted creditors. DMPs often last for years at a time, and debtors are prohibited from taking out any new forms of credit while the plan is in effect. Credit counseling agencies are non-profits, some of which offer their services for free.[6]
- They can hire a debt settlement company. These are for-profit companies that negotiate with creditors to lower the total amount a debtor owes. These companies charge debtors a fee in return for settling their debts, and, unlike credit counselors, they do not have pre-existing relationships with creditors. This is a high-risk option, as there are many debt settlement companies who will take advantage of their clients.[7]
- They can negotiate directly with their creditors. One of the reasons that working with a debt settlement company aren't always the best option is that most creditors have a pre-set amount that they will settle outstanding debts for. Instead of paying to hire a debt settlement company, any debtor can simply work directly with their creditors to settle their outstanding debt. However, no matter who does the negotiating, creditors are not obligated under normal circumstances to accept any amount less than what they are legally owed.
- They can file for bankruptcy. There are different kinds—or "chapters"—of bankruptcy, but they all involve a debtor gaining relief from their debts and creditors receiving some kind of repayment. Through bankruptcy proceedings, a debtor could be forced to sell off some of their property in order to pay off their creditors. Likewise, a creditor could be forced to accept a lower amount of money than they were originally owed, or to give a debtor more favorable terms on their debt. While bankruptcy can definitely help someone get out of debt, it will also have a very negative affect on their credit score and their ability to borrow in the future. As such, it's best used as an option of last resort.[8]
- Creditor. Investopedia. Retrieved from http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/creditor.asp.
- Interest Rate. Investopedia. Retrieved from http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/interestrate.asp.
- Credit Reports and Credit Scores. Consumer's Guide. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. Retrieved from https://www.federalreserve.gov/creditreports/pdf/credit_reports_scores_2.pdf.
- What is a FICO Score? MyFICO.com. Retrieved from http://www.myfico.com/CreditEducation/Articles/.
- Fontinelle, A. "How the Debt Collection Agency Business Works." Investopedia. (2014, December 15). Retrieved from http://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/121514/how-debt-collection-agency-business-works.asp.
- "Choosing a Credit Counselor." Federal Trade Commission: Consumer Information. Retrieved from https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0153-choosing-credit-counselor.
- Debt Settlement Information. American Consumer Credit Counseling. Retrieved from http://www.consumercredit.com/counselingdocuments/debt_settlement.pdf.
- Bankruptcy. Investopedia. Retrieved from http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bankruptcy.asp.


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Written by Uchendu E. Uchendu of uchendutalks.com
I'll tell you a painful fact, and this is the truth.
Some of us are dreamers.
We like to think we have goals, but we have mere dreams (or daydreams). We spend time elaborately describing the future we want—to ourselves and to others—and are so captured by this future that we take no meaningful action in the present.
And so that future never comes. And we feel frustrated.
Many of us have listened to motivational speeches and read motivational books that say: Create a goal, focus on the goal and work towards it. We passionately write down our incredible goals and begin to think about them dreamily every day.
People around us can see that we are not working towards this goal, but we keep talking and talking and talking about this goal. In the end we achieve nothing.
Still don't get it? Here's an example:
Profile of a Dreamer
A dreamer attends a motivational program/seminar/sermon or reads a motivational book and gets fired up to create a change in his life. He decides that he wants to become the next Dangote. He writes this goal down, "I want to become the next Dangote", and probably pastes it somewhere he can see every day, so he can keep his focus.
He's passionate about his goal and can't wait to speak to others about it. He tells his significant other about his brand new goal, and she is excited and wants to support him. Everything seems bright and ready to go.
But one week later, he is still talking.
Two weeks later, he is still talking.
Four weeks later, he is still just talking.
Six weeks later, he gets frustrated that he has made no progress and believes that he needs a better motivational book, because the previous one—according to him—does not work.
He gets a new book or seminar, and the same thing happens again.
And this cycle continues.
Until he becomes depressed, and says the speakers are frauds who lie to get money from people.
What Mistake Did He make?
The motivational speeches/books are not the problem, but they are definitely not the solution. Motivational speakers are like traffic wardens—they show the way, but they can't take you to your destination. That part is your responsibility.
The main summary of everything a motivational speaker will tell you to do in order to succeed is:
- Create a goal and write it down
- Work towards your goal with passion
- Keep being focused on your goal until you achieve it
This is entirely correct. But, there's a problem.
Many of us do the creating a goal part—it's not that hard. We are also very passionate about our goals. But many of us forget the most important thing.
Strategic Work
When it comes down to the nuts and bolts of achieving anything at all, strategic work is the path that leads there.
Let me illustrate:
When you first want to achieve a goal, we can say that you are at A and you want to get to Z. But to get to Z, you must first go through B, then C, then D, then E, until you get to Z. This is plain logic. This means that from A, you first focus on how you're going to get to B. When you reach B, then you can begin thinking about C.
But for many people, who are truly passionate about their goals, they are at A and they focus almost entirely on Z. This doesn't make sense.
Let's say you want to get to work early. Do you first focus on getting to work early? No.
- You first focus on waking up early.
- Then you focus on bathing and brushing in the shortest possible time.
- Then you focus on eating your breakfast as fast as humanly possible.
- Then you focus on getting to the bus stop and getting on the first bus you see.
After you have done all this, then you can get to work on time—but only after.
This is the only practically possible way to achieve any goal.
How Can You Apply This
First, tell yourself the truth. Have you been working strategically towards your goal, or have you been dreaming about it?
Think about this for 15 seconds.
No, really think about it.
Understand that the only way we can change anything in our lives is by first telling ourselves the truth. Do this before reading any further.
Second, think through your goal. Who are your role models that have achieved this goal already? What process did they take to get there? You need this in detail. Take the time to get this information for at least 3 or 4 people.
Third, get a piece of paper, a book or an excel sheet. If you did the second step in detail, you will notice a pattern in the success paths of the 3 or 4 people you studied. Use this pattern to construct a plan that can get you to your goal. Your plan should be good, but not necessarily perfect—you'll modify it as you go along.
Fourth, get to work ASAP. This is the point where more than 50% of people mentally stop. The goal, the passion and the planning are so romantic—but the work isn't. Work does two major things: 1) The more you work on your craft, the better you get at it, and 2) It is the only thing that moves you towards your goal. Sitting and thinking makes you a poor philosopher.
Uchendu E. Uchendu writes at uchendutalks.com. If you like this article, you can find his best articles here and join his email list here.

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Amber said, "Enough of this pussy, I want some real vagina!"
Insert witty line here
Luckily for Johnny all the movies he's made have been box office poison since he married her.
FUCK YOU AND GIVE ME MY GODDAMN VENTI TWO PUMP LIGHT WHIP MOCHA YOU COCKSUCKING WHORE BEFORE I PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH. I just get unpleasant in my car. - Deej
Healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.
How thoroughly unsurprising. The succubus has completed her work. All hotness has been extracted. She leaves behind a badly coiffed, dirty, empty, dead shell.
Oh Johnny, you stupid stupid man. Anyone with half a functioning neuron could've told you this is the way it would go down. Bitch doesn't even care that you lost your mother. She's brutal.
To be fair, this is what he looked like when they met:
Maybe she didn't sign up for tequilla soaked captain rotted tooth.
if you're so incensed that you can't fly your penis in public take it up with your state, arrange a nude protest, go and be the rosa parks of cocks or something - witchcurlgirl
She didn't sign up for tequila soaked captain rotted tooth, she caused it.
He was just as icky with the last broad.
Guess l'il Amber didn't get the career boost she thought she would.
What blind items does this answer? Enty went after this couple hard.
"Don't trust nobody, and 'nobody' meaning Jay Leno in particular." -Chris Rock
She's seeking spousal support.
Give me a break. She's got her own career and there are no children. Alimony is so last century.
Educate me on Cali community property divorce laws. Without a prenup will she be entitled to half his holdings, or just half of what he built during the 15 months of marriage?
Never mind. I connected with my friend Google.
Community Property and Separate Property
There is a strong presumption under California law that assets and debts a couple accumulates during marriage are community property. Property one spouse owned alone before the marriage, or acquired by gift or inheritance during the marriage, is that spouse's separate property. Separate property also generally includes items purchased with or exchanged for separate property, earnings on separate property, and any increase in value of separate property, as long as the property owner can prove the claim with financial records or other documents.
California law also provides that property spouses acquire before divorce but after the date of separation is separate property. The date of separation is not necessarily the date one spouse moves out of the marital home. Instead, it is the date that one spouse decides to end the marriage, and it requires some act of physical separation combined with other actions clearly demonstrating that the spouse has decided to end the marriage.
The date of separation can become a big issue if just before the divorce one spouse either earned an unusual amount of money—got a large bonus at work or won the lottery, for example—or spent a significant amount of money. If the couple can't agree on a date, a court will decide after considering all of the evidence. Courts usually lean toward later rather than earlier dates when evidence conflicts, so that more property is included as community property, rather than less.
A couple can agree either before or during marriage to change an asset that was originally separate property into community property, or vice versa. Such agreements must be in writing and must clearly state the intentions of the parties; simply changing the title of the property is not enough.
Sometimes a spouse changes a separate asset into a community asset without meaning to by combining—or "commingling"—separate property with marital property. A premarital bank account belonging to one spouse can become marital property if the other spouse makes deposits to it; a house owned by one spouse alone can become marital property (either in whole or in part) if both spouses pay the mortgage and other expenses.
Many types of assets can be partially community and partially separate, including retirement accounts one spouse contributed to both before and after the marriage, or a business one spouse started before marriage and continued operating after marriage.
Distinguishing community property from separate property can become very complicated, especially if one spouse owns a business or other asset to which the other contributed labor or funds during the marriage. If you have a complex property situation, you may need to consult an attorney for advice. Spouses who can't decide what belongs to whom will have to let a court decide whether commingled property was a gift to the marriage or whether the original owner should be reimbursed in whole or in part.
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This week, many families are gearing up for Thanksgiving. But savvy gamers who are short on cash have our own holiday to look forward to: Black Friday is less than a week away. If you struggle to fund your gaming addiction – or if you're just a gamer who loves a good deal – don't miss out on these five Black Friday deals.
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To get the most bang for your buck, you might head over to Best Buy, where you'll not only find tons of games on sale for Black Friday, but also two great bundles. The first: the $229.99 Xbox One S Madden bundle, which includes a copy of Madden NFL 18 and a free controller with the purchase of a console. The second: the Occulus Rift bundle, on sale for $349.00 ($150 off the original purchase price).
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GameStop will offer many of the same deals as its competitors on games and consoles. But for those gamers who are truly struggling, it may have one of the best console deals on the market: a pre-owned Xbox 360 for $0 with mail-in rebate. GameStop is also having a 25% off sale of all apparel, toys, drinkware, and statues, and definitely remains the best place for all geeky gaming merch.
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For gamers hankering for the sweet Black Fridays of yesteryear, fear not – Groupon has your back. The deal-of-the-day recommendation service is offering a deal on the Sega Genesis, yours for only $39.99. The console comes with 81 built-in games, including Mortal Kombat and the Sonic series. The system also comes with a top slot to play those Sega Genesis cartridges you've been too dedicated to part with.
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Discounts are abundant this Black Friday: you can find cheap console controllers at many retailers, including Amazon and ToysRUs; both IGN and GameSpot have put together exhaustive lists of the games you can get on the cheap; if you've been dreaming of a new gaming PC, a new monitor, a VR headset or any other gaming hardware, Polygon has you covered. So gamers, rejoice! And don't forget to save a little money for Cyber Monday.


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Jerry: 00:20 This is Grand Designs Podcast with DJ and Jerry Grand, where we link the chains of reason of sports politics and culture.
DJ: 00:30 Thank you so much for taking the time to tune into the grand design podcast on DJ Grand. And I'm here with my brother Jerry.
Jerry: 00:43 Hello.
DJ: 00:44 I first want to tell you how to get a hold of us. Our website is GrandDesignsPodcast.com. Our email is GrandDesignsPodcast@Yahoo. You can follow us on Twitter at GrandDesignsPod and Instagram is GrandDesignspodcast. Today's topic we're going to be talking about holdouts from the NFL. Are they ethical? Should they happen?
Jerry: 01:08 Well, we have to start with the owners. What's their side? Obviously what's the player's side? Because those are the two sides, uh, the owners and where's it start from? But the owners, obviously they have their profits and they have a profit margin and they can only pay so many star players, so much money. But as we go through these years, uh, Le'Veon Bell last year holding out has pretty much changed the format of how these players are trying to get more money. And the question that I want to ask is should the iron of their contract? For example, is Ezekiel Elliott right now is holding out, he signed a five year deal. He's on year four right now. He's got two years left. Should he honor that contract?
DJ: 01:49 I think he should. If you sign a contract you should do it for the length of the contract. I don't think the holding out is necessary. I get, I understand (it and) we'll get into the reasons why they do it but I still don't think that is more compelling than your word. You signed a contract.
Jerry: 02:04 But if we go back years, decades, even since we were kids watching football, it was when we were little kids you didn't hear much of this. But as the NFL made more money, you start hearing players wanting to renegotiate before the contract runs out and now it is just gotten to a ridiculous situation to where, why even have the contracts? Cause they're going to break them or they're going to hold out. Melvin Gordon, he's doing a complete 180 on the chargers and he's holding out. So it's really what has caused this? What's the reason for all these players doing this all of a sudden now?
DJ: 02:35 Well, part of it is the fact that the nature of the business, it's a rough league and usually, it's three years, four years, five years tops, average now. I'm not talking about Tom Brady. What? I'm running backs, they get hurt a lot. I mean it wears and tears on their body and I get that they, because of that, they want to make as much as they can, but that doesn't make it right to go against your word.
Jerry: 03:01 You said correctly. They want their money and they want an asap. They want, they want to take care of their families and their futures and their kids beyond. The problem is again, like you said, they should honor that contract, but they don't. And then you have two players right now. Let's go back last year because two things really changed the format of how these contracts are now dealt with. In the uh, they were earthquake changing and that was Le'Veon Bell and Todd Gurley. Le'Veon Bell basically told the Steelers, hey I'm not coming back until you negotiate. And I think they thought it was blocked him cause he did this several years before. But he always came back in the last (days) of training camp cause they thought not many veterans like training camp but this, this year and he sat the whole season. Now you have players…
DJ: 03:42 Last year
Jerry: 03:42 I'm sorry. Yes, last year now last year Todd Gurley also signed a $57 million contract. That just went ditch it all through the whole shape. Now Ezekiel Elliott, he wants to top that before he gets because he's on year three. If the average four years there is a chance he may get injured and never see that money. So that's why he wants that money now.
DJ: 04:05 Oh, I get that. They want (it) because they're getting injured. They're getting injured (and) that they want to take get it while they can. I totally understand that. But sign that contract that, so you get it while you can in that first year.
Jerry: 04:19 They're not going to do that, especially the NFL because if we go back and I call it the Matthew Stafford Syndrome, but it's really, that's not right. I shouldn't write to Matthew cause he was just the last quarterback to come out when he just got an outrageous contract without even throwing one pass, not playing one down. And a lot of the veterans just had a problem cause this was happening year after year. The number one draft pick number two and three, they're making more than some of the veterans. So the NFL wasn't, not the NFL decided but they negotiated and the union collectively bargained that there was a new rookie contract system and the system basically says, I don't know if it's a five year contract or a six year contract and yes, I don't know what the cap may be, but Ezekiel Elliott makes $6.5 million on his current rookie contract. That's a lot of money.
DJ: 05:02 That's part of the problem. I think the length of the rookie contract is what hurts them because it holds them into for six years when really should only do it for one or two years and then renegotiate.
Jerry: 05:15 Now Ezekiel Elliott has led the NFL in rushing in the first three seasons of his career, only two other people have done that and that's Earl Campbell and James Brown, so that puts him in an elite company. Now, Todd Gurley did not do that. I don't think Todd Gurley has been in the year this, this would be his third year if I'm not mistaken. Yes sir. Last year was year three and in the middle of his second year now and he had a five year contract, too. He then goes to sign for $57 million, 500 of which a 21 million was totally guaranteed $21,000,900. Now that just changed out Ezekiel, that was a second year. Other owners in the NFL did not like the Rams doing that because now Ezekiel Elliott a) wants to do the same thing and, and he's going to hold out. Same thing with Melvin Gordon. We have two running back to him at the same time, but the owners want to put a limit at 57 million, which means they do not want to exceed that Todd Gurley money. Elliot had made it clear I want more than him. Now think about it. He's done something that Todd Gurley hasn't done. Now, Jim Brown and Earl Campbell, those were legendary backs. So when you have the negotiating and these, and this was the agent comes in, they negotiate for them and they know the NFL has got just a ton of money. They understand and where it's available and coming from. So they're going to set the market and that's what happened with Gurley. He set the market, but I don't think the owners are going to let that stand.
DJ: 06:34 A part of the problem or the nature of the beast, I guess is the unions and the agents because both of them are looking out for themselves. They're not looking out for the players and not looking out for the NFL. They say they're looking out for the players, but no, they're still looking out for themselves.
Jerry: 06:49 Don't think the union did running backs, and this is kind of hard to explain, but I don't think the union did the running backs any favors and the NFL is making rules to protect the quarterbacks and those are the glory boys. They're getting all the money, so they're lasting. Tom Brady 20 years, a lot longer than you know, back off when Johnny Unitas, Dan Marino, Joe Theisman played. Again, Tom Brady's played 20 years running backs, average three and there's a chance that they're walking like Earl Campbell who can't right now. So they're trying to get their.
DJ: 07:19 Joe Namath can't walk. He's a quarterback.
Jerry: 07:22 How many years of joining with play?
DJ: 07:23 He played a lot.
Jerry: 07:25 Again, but again, here we go back in Joe Namath. That was, that was back when, I guess the men played. Right now. I mean, come on, Deacon Jones. There's some other ones, the fearsome foursome. They were out to kill quarterbacks. Those guys would've been kicked out of games left and right in today's league where they're protected. I wonder what Nameth with what had done in today's league. Same thing with Marino. You know it's a passing game now, and the rules are you can't call roughing the quarterback. I've seen some. Pretty Weird, they came even touch (them). You might as well put flags on the quarterback. The point being is to protect in the quarterback, but not the running backs. Running backs are done in three years. So I kind of see where again, it is the, where I'm kind of baffled. $6.5 million is a lot of money. That's what Elliott's making. He wants 14 million a year. He wants, you know, literally to more than double that salary. Is that greed? Is that rational self-interest, greed?
DJ: 08:15 Are they forced to sign a six year deal as a rookie?
Jerry: 08:19 You see, I think, I don't know. I'm not sure, but I think, there's a length of the CBA negotiated that the, there's a three year, five year, I think it's five because…
DJ: 08:29 And they have to sign five years. They can't sign one or two? It must be five?
Jerry: 08:32 I believe. I think that there's, I don't want to quote myself, I'm going to say just to guess yes, that they have to go through a five year contract because I know Gurley had a five year, but again, he re-upped to in year two.
DJ: 08:43 That I think it's part of the problem. They shouldn't have to be forced to sign that long of a contract. Especially sense their average career is only three to four years. That takes off their, their whole, almost their whole career that I see as wrong.
Jerry: 08:58 That's where I'm saying the CBA didn't do any favors to the running backs. Now there's, that's what I'm saying. This next one, not only, I mean, do they want to, the union want to break down the owners, but they're going to hold out for the running backs, now. That you know literally, I don't know how they're going to word it, but the running backs are getting screwed. So now Ezekiel Elliott is holding out, Melvin Gordon is holding out. It's just turned into this melee. How do you solve it?
DJ: 09:23 I think, now this is just speculation on my part. You should use the NHL model. That's how I would solve it. That doesn't mean it's right and I don't think the agents nor the union will go for it, but you make it a one or two years, you cap it, you give them a certain level. Now that's an X, you can negotiate between them what that would be based on the NFL revenues. So they're not getting that short change, but that gives them the opportunity to perform for one or two years and then renegotiate their contract. Now if they're going to hold on after one, then I would say, you can extend your rookie contract.
Jerry: 09:59 I could just tell you right now, Barry Sanders comes out and does what he did his rookie year. He's not playing the second year until he gets that.
DJ: 10:04 Like I just said. Then you can then your rookie contract is extended for however long you hold out. That way, that rookie contract and stay three, four years. If you hold out two years, if you hold out then you extend it. But if you don't then you after two years you can renegotiate and get that the money that is Ezekiel Elliott is searching.
Jerry: 10:23 I'm not sure if it's a middle ground, but if you gave them the one year then they had that one year to prove himself and they get their big money, their 26 million. If they're good enough to get at 17 million a year. However, um, well that does all the complaint of the veterans saying this guy hasn't played one down. He's played one season now. So he…
DJ: 10:42 It's twofold. It also solves a problem them playing, the rookie contract being longer than it should be. So it so that way they can renegotiate earlier and don't have to sign a six year contract and then hold out on year four. Cause the contract will be done after two, they can renegotiate it and get the money they want and at that point you can, you should be able to do it for the length that you want or you can get and then…
Jerry: 11:06 But like you said earlier, the agents and they really got their hands in on this and I know they're lobbying the union before all the contract negotiations. I think they really pushed it. They would, they like longer contracts and they also know full well that that contract is made to be broken. It will not last, especially if they exceed expectations. They're going to go back and my client's going to hold out and Calvin Johnson did it. I mean it's happen(ed) all the time. It's only gotten worse after Le'Veon Bell held out the whole season.
DJ: 11:34 Just cause it happens all the time, doesn't mean it's justified. I mean in the real world, if you go into a corporation and you just outperform everybody your first or second year, does that mean you get to renegotiate right away and you get CEO level of compensation? I totally don't see that as justification.
Jerry: 11:51 I don't like using the real compared to NFL cause it's, it's not real world. It's just, it's not a, it's a kid's game and a business at the same time. And you got the NFL making what, 14, 15 billion a year in revenue. So, I can see the players, agents, while I don't agree with the union, I can say, I can see them saying we want half of that 14 billion, the owners get seven, we get, the players get seven. And then you've now got the whole thing of negotiating the contracts and this is where the agents come in and to lobby the union saying, listen, we, we liked the long-term contracts because we want our clients to be able to renegotiate (at) whatever point.
DJ: 12:29 They want, the bigger contracts, so they get a bigger percentage. I think the agents are out for themselves.
Jerry: 12:33 Oh, absolutely and that's the problem. When you had the agents involved, they're always going to be looking out for themselves included cause now they know off the bat they have no leverage on a one year contract, none whatsoever. And actually takes it out of their hand a little bit because hey your guy did bad last year. We're not going to pay him what we paid them last year cause look at the results.
DJ: 12:52 Well, the opposite of that coin, like you said, is Ezekiel Elliott did really good these last three years. He then would be able to get the big money after the one or two years. So it's, it can work both ways.
Jerry: 13:02 Do you truly, again, Elliott, Sanders, they're there, the freaks, they're rare talents. Can you just say one year is a good judgment that hey, that's a one year I can pay that guy 14 million a year or should they get it approve themselves over and that's where it comes in. Shouldn't that guy whom suffer a couple three years that age is durable? Now we get back to the question. I know that you brought up, a running back cannot last that long, but at what point do you one year?
DJ: 13:27 I think two that gives you, that lets you prove that it wasn't just a fluke season. You do it twice, you've proven yourself. It doesn't matter to me that they won't go for it. It doesn't matter to me if the union won't go for it and what I'm trying to solve here is the hold out problem. I really believe the rookie hold out problem I think guys are going to hold out later because they think they get screwed later in their career.
Jerry: 13:49 Antonio Brown.
DJ: 13:50 But I'm talking about the rookie hold out with all of the contract, the rookie contract last too long causing like Ezekiel Elliott is a perfect example, where his rookie contract, he's outperformed at any, he should renew it. Now, if you, if he only signed a two year contract and that was mandatory for all rookies coming in and they would be capped so that once again they can negotiate what that cap is. I'm not saying it has to be $1 million. I'm not saying it has to be $10 million. It can be negotiated with their unions and the owners, but once they establish what the given market is then they should be held to it for that one, two years and then they can renegotiate and that will stop the rookie holdouts.
Jerry: 14:32 Always think but I always think every with a two, with a more than a one year contract, you're going to have, I think his name is Drew Rosenhaus. He's a very famous agent along with Scott Boris. Those guys are not going to a, if it's a two year contract, I'm, they will tell their client and they will basically go on the media and say, I'm just going to. I don't, I don't know who representing Ezekiel Elliott. But Boris goes and says, my client just did things that Jim Campbell and Earl, sorry, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell didn't do. He deserves top notch money right now. After one year I want to renegotiate and if we don't renegotiate, he's going to hold out. So we're back to the same what we're talking about right now. This guy (is) just going to hold out.
DJ: 15:13 Once again in the rookie contract you put a stipulation in there that if you hold out, it extends. It will always extend that rookie contract.
Jerry: 15:22 I like the idea. I do, I do, but I don't think the union would ever agree to that and they've already got a couple of reasons why they want to lengthen this uh, the 2020 negotiation toward there won't be a 20, 20 season. That's just going to add to it.
DJ: 15:36 It doesn't matter to me what the Union thinks. It doesn't matter to me what the agents think. What matters to me is an ethical side of it, right or wrong, and I think you should hold, you should hold to your word and when you sign a contract that is equivalent to your word, ethically, the right thing to do is to fulfill your word. And if you shortened the length of the contract, it makes it easier for these players to actually do that, to fulfill their word, to be moral people and not hold out. Cause I don't think holding out is necessary even though it's a good bargaining chip that works. Yeah. Tactic. It works for them. I don't think it's a moral thing to do because you're going against your word. It's equivalent to lying to me. You're saying, I will be here for three years, but no, after two I'm not going to be here anymore. That's a lie.
Jerry: 16:26 And you're describing a state of the league that was back in the 60s, 70s, but it started going away in the late 70s toward the 80s and when the money started coming in, and that's what this boils down to. They themselves, the agent, like you said, from themselves, but they want their clients. It's almost like the Jerry Maguire movie. Show me the money, show me the money now.
DJ: 16:44 You can be shown the money after the rookie contract, after the two years…
Jerry: 16:48 Again.
DJ: 16:48 When you've earned it.
Jerry: 16:49 I love the idea how, look if you hold out, if you're not a rookie for another extra year. I get it. I love it. But again, I really don't think, I know you don't care. You made that clear, but they're not going to agree to that. That's not going to happen. There's no way that's going to be in the contract because A. the union wants to make as much money for their clients. All the players, not clients. All of their membership I should call it. And then the, yeah the agents on top. Yeah. They want their money and they're not going to let their client hold out. Cause if they would hold out and then it extended, they lose all their lucky, what you call the tactic bargaining chip is gone. Yeah, I agree that that's why the CBA or the union will not agree to it. The union will say no, we'll give them a two or three year but they can hold out and they do, if they put up numbers that are astronomical, it's no different than a veteran who's been in the league and he signed four different contracts but after the fifth contract, he blew the numbers out of the water and now he demanded a trade cause he wants Antonio Brown money cause he does things that Antonio Brown didn't do.
DJ: 17:48 Even though I'm putting the restrictions on those veterans, they are just as wrong for holding out. If they signed for that big money and they end up, someone else gets a bigger contract, they should perform during their contract and then negotiate for that big money once their contracts over. I'm just trying to stop the holdouts within the rookie contract the, five, six years of the beginning of their career. The rest of them, they're just as wrong. But there's no way you're going to stop them from holding out. I don't know how, I haven't come up with it.
Jerry: 18:17 I think with the entitlement thinking that our younger generation has now, that they're going to come out and it's just, it's not, it's almost like stamping little babies. They're not getting their way as far as the agents. So, how am I going to say this? That they want to get their clients where they can hold out and yes, she got the unions. Again, they're saying they're looking out for all membership. Now, It's almost like, I think what would happen if it went through in your ideal pass and the union agreed to it. Now you're going to have these rookies doing what Antonio Brown (did) and I think he was advised by his agent to do what he did. And Antonio Brown didn't hold out last year. You know what he did. He basically jumped ship, almost like a mutiny, didn't show up for practice and then he got benched. He almost kind of like threw a fit that he would be traded or almost kicked off the team. I mean he did things like a pouting child. So, how I'm referring it back to these rookie contracts. You get a rookie that and their agent says, look, you can't hold out because if you do, your contract was three years now it's going to be four years. So now go there, but go do half. Don't show up at practice, be late, take the fines. Be, in other words, be a poison in your locker room.
DJ: 19:28 Be pragmatic, which I think is evil..
Jerry: 19:30 Which is what.
DJ: 19:31 That does, that doesn't make you, I'm trying to stop the bad ethics of holding out and you're replacing it with another one bad ethic.
Jerry: 19:39 I know what you're doing, but I'm trying to tell you what will happen. I'm not replacing it. You will have these players that will be advised by these slime agents.
DJ: 19:47 I didn't mean you. I meant the players are..
Jerry: 19:47 I know, I know. And they're basically, well, they're acting out like a little child and I know it's not them, it's the agent saying, listen, this is wrong.
DJ: 19:56 Didn't I already say the agents are bad, just as the unions are bad? I already said that. So that's been established.
Jerry: 20:00 How do you get rid of the agents? You can't.
DJ: 20:02 I'm not saying get rid of them, but harness, at least the beginning of the career and that way it lessens their power. The agents will have the power after the rookie contract, after they've established themselves. You're right. They're not going to go for it. You're absolutely right and I don't think that the union will go for it either. You never, look, where I got part of this idea from was where it actually happens in reality, in the NHL. They have a rookie contract. It's based on age, but you have to sign for, if you're between 18 and 21, it's a three year contract between 22 and 23, a two year contract and over 24 it's a one year contract. That was the template where I got the idea from. The numbers to me is like an Algebraic equation. It's an x. It can mean any number, but it must mean some number and that's for them to negotiate. But there's no reason why I can't see the rookie contract, can't stick to these and you can even do this tier way with by position, cause we know running backs last longer. You could make them the one year and we know, instead of doing it by age or by position. And you know, kickers and quarterbacks last longer, they can do the three year one. There's ways you can make this work to where it's equitable. The question is, do they want it? And I agree with you, I don't think the agents and the unions are going to want that.
Jerry: 21:28 And that's where I ask, I don't know how the NHL got this. I don't know how the union representative agreed to this, but okay. The problem, the only thing that I see with. How do I explain this? Hockey and football are almost like what I'm talking about with generation shift and back when we were growing up, when we did something wrong. We got yelled at. We literally admitted our guilt. Sorry, it won't happen again and you didn't make that same mistake twice. To where now it's..
DJ: 21:54 Oh, you think Brad Marchand admits his guilt and won't make the same mistake twice? No, I think it still happens there. That attitude is still there. I don't think It's..
Jerry: 22:01 No, I'm not talking on the ice. Okay. I'm talking off the ice, that these hockey players are more respectful and grateful that they'll take that 900,000 or a million dollars. Now, again, the NHL only made $4 billion. They make a lot less, but still, I think that hockey player is just more of a, hey, I just want to play hockey. I'll take 2 million. And if the union agreed to this contract, I'll skate my butt off. Sidney Crosby did it. Uh, Connor Mcdavid, you pointed out, was the one who did it. And these guys are of god-like talent. But again, I think those two are a cut above. Yes, that's how things ought to be.
DJ: 22:34 But they were still harnessed to the contract. That's the point.
Jerry: 22:37 I know.
DJ: 22:37 And these big stars in the NFL should be harnessed the same way.
Jerry: 22:40 I don't think there's one NFL star that you can put to David and Crosby character and say that they're both equal. Those guys have class.
DJ: 22:46 I meant by talent, not character. I was talking about talent.
Jerry: 22:49 Again with their talent, but that's my point. Crosby, if you put Le'Veon Bell in hockey and he's got Crosby skill, he's not going to accept this contract, even as a rookie. He's going to hold out. He's going to say, hey, I'm more, whatever. I'm just saying that the attitude of the NFL player is not close. The NHL is more respectful.
DJ: 23:09 He has no choice. Then you don't sign. You don't play. If you want to play in the NHL as a rookie, you must. This is in the CBA. You must adhere to this.
Jerry: 23:19 Again.
DJ: 23:20 So if it's in the CVA for the NFL, I don't care if you have that attitude or not. You must adhere to it or you don't play and if they don't play, they're not going to get the million.
Jerry: 23:30 I guess my point is, the NHL players aren't going to complain about it. When Crosby had ungodly years, first rookie season, they thought this kid is the next one. He didn't come out and say, I want more money.
DJ: 23:40 I don't know who did that.
Jerry: 23:40 But an NFL player would.
DJ: 23:41 I don't agree with that because they have a union. They have gone strike, they've tried to, it doesn't matter the strength or not. They have negotiated, they have gone on strike. They've done everything that the NFL players association can and will do and yet they negotiated for this for the rookies only and this is why I emphasize it for the rookie contracts only. It would at least stop those holdouts. It's not going to stop Le'Veon Bell's. It's not going to stop what Antonio Brown does. The solution I have for the Antonio Brown situation is, other teams should shun him. Also, see here's the where the pragmatism comes in, they only care about winning, so they won't, they won't shun him. They care about getting that prize at the end of the season. Instead of caring about principle, there's the root of the problem. If they cared about principle, then they would shun him. They would not reward him for acting like the baby you're saying he's acting like. That is the problem.
Jerry: 24:37 I completely agree. That's never going to happen because you're going to have a team like the Raiders, that will pay Antonio Brown to be that child because of the so called skill and athletic ability he brings to that team. I mean, even though they've seen what he did in the locker room as a poison to the Steelers, you still got that team that will go out there and do this. So you got NFL teams saying, we can't let him go, because if we do, someone will scoop him up. Even though he's a character and he's a locker room problem, we can't let him go.
DJ: 25:03 That's the problem. That's part of the problem. If they would learn to let him go, then he would be punished without being punished. He'd be punished because no one would sign him.
Jerry: 25:14 But okay. That's only if the other 31 teams don't sign him.
DJ: 25:17 Wait a minute, I know they can do that because of Colin Kaepernick. They didn't sign him. It's possible. I'm not saying it was right or wrong what they did to Kaepernick, but I'm saying it's possible because it happened to him.
Jerry: 25:30 Okay, but I'm going to throw something that Kaepernick was different. If Kaepernick would of had Brady's skills, the team would have, someone would of signed him. I don't think that that was a collusion thing.
DJ: 25:41 So you think you're going to put Antonio Brown up, cause we were talking about Antonio Brown being the child.
Jerry: 25:45 Yes.
DJ: 25:45 You're going to put Antonio Brown's skills up with that of Brady and all the great ones. I don't think he is.
Jerry: 25:51 Yeah, no, yeah.
DJ: 25:51 I think he's like, even though, it's different positions, I think it's equivalent to Kaepernick.
Jerry: 25:57 You know he's done, no, no, not Antonio Brown. He's done things. He's special. He is a special player. He's one of those ones. That's what I'm trying to say, another team will scoop him up. There are other teams out there. They were just begging the Steelers to cut him, that they didn't want to trade for him and the more it went, the more leveraged the other teams had. Why would we want to trade for them when we know for a fact you're going to cut them after their season ends?
DJ: 26:16 Okay, let's just say you're right. He is special and that could be the case. I'm not arguing that. It doesn't mean the other teams could not stand and just say, no, I'm not doing that. Just like they did with Kaepernick..
Jerry: 26:28 I guess what I'm saying is Kaepernick was special. Someone would've picked him up and they were with third that press hit, they would have went through it. I'm telling you, I really believe that the 32 ethical that thought..
DJ: 26:38 It's irrelevant.
Jerry: 26:38 Kaepernick wasn't good anymore.
DJ: 26:40 But that's irrelevant. The point is they still did it. They still did it and if they can do it for him, they can do it for Antonio Brown. That's my point. If they stuck together. You're right. There are weak, morally weak teams out there, the management's morally weak, ownership community, morally weak and they will compromise. They'll compromise on everything, just to get that glittering prize.
Jerry: 27:02 Okay, I also think Kaepernick was a business decision too.
DJ: 27:05 All of this is the business decision.
Jerry: 27:06 Yes. But again, Antonio Brown was not going to bring negativity right away to the locker room. A distraction, from day one. Kaepernick brings that to every organization. And then an organization knows that and then you add up. Again, Antonio Brown had Kaepernick's motive, the whole anthem stuff. You're kneeling down with all his social injustice thing and he did what Kaepernick's doing. Yes. Another team would have picked him up in a heartbeat. So what I'm trying to say is it's one of two things, you're saying the owners did it, but the owners did it because there were 32 teams who voluntarily said, I don't want this guy on my team.
DJ: 27:40 I agree. And they could, they could voluntarily agree, I don't want Antonio Brown. The problem is they will compromise. I'm agreeing with you on this point. They will compromise, they will be the Raiders. But the fact that they did it with Kaepernick, it means they can do it within Antonio Brown. They choose not to, but they can.
Jerry: 27:57 I understand that. But, I'm trying to say is, yeah, with a talent like that, it just won't happen. So again, your rookie contract would be solved and I still think you're going to have bad advice from the agents who act like attorneys to get my client more money.
DJ: 28:10 Agents aren't attorneys.
Jerry: 28:11 Okay, well what they're doing basically is saying, listen for you to (not) drag this out. Don't give full effort. If they want full effort, they should pay you. And you're getting these agents telling me, these guys are kids.
DJ: 28:21 That could also be detrimental to them, cause if they don't give the full effort, when they do end that small working contract, they won't get the huge money cause they didn't give the effort.
Jerry: 28:29 What I was going to say is, if it's a three year contract, the other first year he has a great year and he..
DJ: 28:34 But I did it by position, what, you said three year contract, what position are we talking about now?
Jerry: 28:37 Running back, running back.
DJ: 28:38 I don't think that should be that long, running back should be maximum two years contract, because the nature of their position, they could get hurt easily.
Jerry: 28:45 I'll tell you what, the two year contract answered my, I guess my flaw in the three year contract was. The agent will tell that player, okay, look, first year we want to negotiate. Ownership says no, you signed a three year deal and you're going to hold to it, that's the way it is. All right. Listen, you're going to go through and go through the motion the second year. The third year is the contract year and every player in the (contract) year lights it up because that's your next year. Now, also what we say is, if the plan is Ezekial Elliott were playing for the cowboys. You're right. I'm going to go through the motions second year and I'm coming out. I'm going to shine my third year, but I'm not reupping with you.
DJ: 29:18 They have that choice to go, if they're a free agent, to go where they want to. That's their freedom of volition.
Jerry: 29:25 Correct, but that team just got split.
DJ: 29:27 But with, oh well, you could get screwed. You could draft and sign the best player in history and he could break his knee in training camp and he can never ever play a game for you and you end up getting screwed. It's no different. There's a gamble in everything.
Jerry: 29:43 No, you're correct. No. Well, you don't know what they're going to turn out to be, but again, a version of Barry Sanders, you're going to have that agent basically saying, we want to re-up, because he's done things that no other running back has done.
DJ: 29:56 Well, we have to stick it within the context of what I said. The running backs would have a chance to re-up sooner than virtually everyone else. And those, even those tiers could be negotiated with the Union and management. But I do think this is a template that could work in the NFL and any of this. It's only the solution of rookies holding out. That's it.
Jerry: 30:22 I understand. I know, I understand. I just think when they negotiate the quarterbacks, they're going to say, no way, whatever, we want that to, linemen, safety's, whatever it may be.
DJ: 30:30 Well, tell us what your opinion is on this. You can email us at GrandDesignsPodcast.com, go to our website and you can get the podcast, as well as the transcript and sometimes the blog. Just let us know. Give us some kind of feedback. I want to thank you so much for listening to us. We appreciate every single listener that we can get, and we do get, this is the Grand Designs Podcast. Who are you listening to?


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tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post1830304463426865203..comments2020-09-23T16:17:19.097+10:00Comments on Deep Fried Fruit: Day 3326 - Letters to ChelseaLeanne @ Deep Fried Fruithttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-42234044566083703402018-12-05T18:31:36.029+11:002018-12-05T18:31:36.029+11:00Now replying on the date that will be forever etch...Now replying on the date that will be forever etched into your family's life. The day Chelsea left life as we know it here. It has been the best and the worst of times to follow you telling Chelsea's story. No-one can say anything to make anyone feel better nor something that makes some sense. None of it does. But you shone a light on Chelsea and the good works done where they could be to help her. Sending my love...always. Denyse xDenyse Whelan.https://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-55040545935878593232018-12-04T09:23:47.152+11:002018-12-04T09:23:47.152+11:00Wonderful idea to show Chelsea how much she means ...Wonderful idea to show Chelsea how much she means to so many, right now. Concentrating on her light and her spirit will help you all through the coming weeks. Hugs & love to you all xKirstyhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-18199941337037792752018-11-30T09:31:49.706+11:002018-11-30T09:31:49.706+11:00She's such a beautiful girl and I'm so so ...She's such a beautiful girl and I'm so so sorry for you all. I definitely believe in the power of the written word. I'm sure each of those letters break the heart of the writer and Chelsea but her daughter will also have those to remember her mother by in years to come - how much she was loved and how much she meant to others. I keep seeing pictures of your family with her (L) and wonder how much she understands. She's so lucky having you all there for her. xxDebbishhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-79654813620763019832018-11-30T06:34:49.243+11:002018-11-30T06:34:49.243+11:00I've been thinking of you since I saw the upda...I've been thinking of you since I saw the update on her Go Fund Me page. I think we can all learn a lot from Chelsey - her strength, courage and her positivity - it just shines through in that photograph. Cancer robs us of so much, I'm pleased Chelsey was able to grab some of that power back and celebrate love with her renewal of the marriage vows and celebrate her life at the party. So hard for you guys though - the incredible gene must run strong in your family. Our reluctance to tell people how awesome they are is so funny, I like to work on the premise that if you love someone and/or if you think they're awesome let them know! Thinking of you all and sending big hugs.Sammie @ The Annoyed Thyroidhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-89852605694667978812018-11-30T06:30:39.470+11:002018-11-30T06:30:39.470+11:00Sorry to hear of what is going on with Chelsea but...Sorry to hear of what is going on with Chelsea but this is so positive. Her spirit is something that everyone should have. Thanks for sharing this. csuhpat1https://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-1848486009575545132018-11-30T01:05:32.648+11:002018-11-30T01:05:32.648+11:00Gosh Leanne...there is so much sadness and yet you...Gosh Leanne...there is so much sadness and yet you present such a positive spirit. My heart is breaking for you.
It reminds me of the book Tuesdays with Morrie. He had a party to enjoy his friends before he passed...I always remember that.
Jodie's Touch of Stylehttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-37910241363685870342018-11-29T21:00:09.252+11:002018-11-29T21:00:09.252+11:00That's such a beautiful photo of Chelsea - and...That's such a beautiful photo of Chelsea - and a testament to her personality and approach to life. You can see the light shining out of her and that is a truly beautiful thing to have for any human being - let alone one going through the journey she's had to face. You are very blessed indeed to have shared her life and to have been there to support her during the last five years in particular xxLeannehttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-36494059502108617092018-11-29T19:13:06.528+11:002018-11-29T19:13:06.528+11:00Thanks SSG. Yes, she is brave and she is strong a...Thanks SSG. Yes, she is brave and she is strong and she is every you say she is. An incredible young woman. Leanne @ Deep Fried Fruithttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-48073094233674906072018-11-29T19:12:33.386+11:002018-11-29T19:12:33.386+11:00I know right. We do we do that? There is nothing...I know right. We do we do that? There is nothing good about a terminal diagnosis (definitely hard to find anything to be grateful for), but at least it gives people time to express themselves and be at their own wake I guess. Sigh. Leanne @ Deep Fried Fruithttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-29886383145840293832018-11-29T19:10:09.399+11:002018-11-29T19:10:09.399+11:00Thanks for contributing to the letters. It's ...Thanks for contributing to the letters. It's something I'd love to see done more often in this world of ours. Leanne @ Deep Fried Fruithttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-10186145353822754732018-11-29T19:09:31.490+11:002018-11-29T19:09:31.490+11:00Thanks Natalie. In many ways we are all drawing ou...Thanks Natalie. In many ways we are all drawing our bravery from Chelsea. Leanne @ Deep Fried Fruithttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-25539776550100839282018-11-29T19:09:04.715+11:002018-11-29T19:09:04.715+11:00Thanks Lydia. Yes, very tough times for everyone....Thanks Lydia. Yes, very tough times for everyone. Not the least of which, Chelsea. She's incredible. The way she handles all this. Just beyond words. Leanne @ Deep Fried Fruithttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-37035379144794989772018-11-29T11:38:52.975+11:002018-11-29T11:38:52.975+11:00Leanne, I am heartbroken for all of you but at the...Leanne, I am heartbroken for all of you but at the same time inspired by Chelsea's bravery, strength and inner beauty. To be renewing her vows and then celebrating afterwards is so beautiful and selfless.

SSG XXXSydney Shop Girlhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-48251462006831537502018-11-29T09:17:15.202+11:002018-11-29T09:17:15.202+11:00What you are saying is so right. Why do we leave i...What you are saying is so right. Why do we leave it until someone has passed and can no longer hear our words to say what they mean to us and what influence their life has had on ours? Hugs and love.Jo Traceyhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-42914774251175965672018-11-29T08:45:26.156+11:002018-11-29T08:45:26.156+11:00This my lovely friend is both a heart-warming and...This my lovely friend is both a heart-warming and positive tale of one very very determined and bright young woman. There is no rhyme nor reason to cancer but Chelsea has not let "it" take her very essence. I am privileged to have contributed a Letter to Chelsea..and it was so lovely seeing the renewal of the wedding vows. Go gently Leanne...you are an amazing woman and I send you my love. Denyse xDenyse Whelan.https://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-5736228431962030992018-11-29T08:16:50.986+11:002018-11-29T08:16:50.986+11:00Hi Leanne - I'm so sorry to hear what you and ...Hi Leanne - I'm so sorry to hear what you and your family are going through. Chelsea looks beautiful in her photo. She's very brave, and you are, too. Sending you warm hugs and positive thoughts.Nataliehttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165517240295371712.post-4045339674002472172018-11-29T08:02:30.247+11:002018-11-29T08:02:30.247+11:00I really don't know what to say. I'm glad ...I really don't know what to say. I'm glad they renewed their vows and had a party, and I'm glad she's feeling in charge of how she lives her moments. I think your words are beautiful. I can't adequately express it. I'm thinking of you all. And it is indeed a very beautiful photo with a light shining out.Lydia C. Leehttps://firstname.lastname@example.com


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So for the new year, one of my mini resolutions is to shop smarter. I didn't formally make this a goal but it's something I've been meanging to do for a while and with the new year upon us it kind of just hit me like a truck. Just do it already!
The resistance comes from doing most of my food shopping at Whole Foods. It's a lazy man's approach to food shopping because I know I can get most anything there from specialty items to meats to produce and anything in between without much compromise. Like, I H.A.T.E. the mulit-stop food shop. Nothing gets my goat more than that feeling of wasting time pogoing from one store to the next for organic almond butter here and frozen calui rice there. But one day last year I came out of Whole Foods with three bags of groceries and $300 poorer and I knew I was being had.
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Not to mention this type of food shopping is creating and perpetuating an "us/them" rift in this nation. It's called the people who can afford to buy healthy real food and those who can't and it's not right. Access to real food that is grown organically, without the use of chemical pesticides, toxic fertilizers and genetically modified seed should not be a privilege, it should be a human right. And right now most families in this country either can't afford to feed their family this way or don't have access to this quality of food.
And in addition to that, lets talk about access to health via progressive medicine including naturopaths, functional medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic care and anything outside of traditional practice – all of this is an out of pocket expense costing hundreds if not thousands for a single visit. Again, available only to those who can afford it.
The point I'm trying to make is there has to be a better way. I'm not boycotting Whole Foods (Siete wraps and Perfect Bars forever) but 7.99 for 2 cups of organic wild black rice? Bruh.
The answer is to shop local farms and coops. Support local so we fortify our own farmers and local economies. Prove that we care about having clean food by helping the farmer earn a living. These farmers who work tirelessly to cultivate organic fruits and veggies and clean eggs and meats is where it's at. Buying here creates ground level big change. Have you ever cut open an organic strawberry from the grocery and compared it to an organic strawberry from a local farm? Do it. Check out eatwild.com for an organic farm near you. But in the dead of winter, local options are limited so…
My Growing Family
With two growing boys and a husband to feed, I decided to give Costco a try. I've been to BJ's, Sam's Club and Costco but I never signed on with any. It just seemed so excessive 5 years ago. Like who needs 8 pounds of cheddar and a barrel of sun dried raisins!? Come to find out, I think I kinda do. So accepting that I am at a new stage in my life, I hit up Costco to see what I could find. This turned out to be pretty much the best and worst day of my life.
Best because I found some really great staples that will probably last us the better part of 1-2 months (rice, raisins, nuts and seeds). The worst because….I left in tears. After learning, shopping and navigating a brand new store the size of Gilette Stadium for two hours with my littles in tow, I got to the check out, had all my finds rung up (to the tune of $350) – ran my Master Card and it was rejected. Costco doesn't take Master Card!? So with no other option I was forced to abandon my cart and leave. I could say I teared up but I would be lying because I was in full-on ugly cry – trying to hide it from my kids like I was choking back a yawn coupled with the worst case of hay fever.
But nobody puts baby in a corner and I was determined to get this done. So after driving 1 hour round trip, swapping cards with my hubs, rounding the aisles again, I was back out the door, WITH groceries, this time. All-in, this errand tallying 5 hours. Let's promise to never to talk about this again.
The Goods
Because quantity is so large at these club stores, I tried to shop for nonperishables or perishables I knew we would fly though like eggs, avocados, bananas etc. Here's what I picked up and how much everything cost. I will add to this list as discover more.
Also, I know Costco's inventory varies by location. What are some items you would add here? We can keep a running list in the comments!
Costco Shopping List
- 2 lbs organic strawberries 9.99
- 18 oz organic blueberries 9.99
- 24 organic eggs 6.49
- 20 GoGo organic applesauce pouches 10.89
- 2 lbs Golden Platter organic + GF chicken nuggets 10.99
- Sugarhouse Maple organic chicken sausages 42 links (will freeze half) 13.99
- 20 oz Wild Alaskan Smoked Sockeye Salmon 18.99
- 2 lbs organic Hannah Hummus 5.99 (no canola) 5.99
- 1 liter first cold-pressed organic EVOO 8.69
- 4 lbs organic raisins 10.89
- 4.5 lbs organic quinoa 9.49
- 10 lbs organic brown Basmati rice 11.99
- 24 oz raw organic pumpkin seeds 7.49
- 2 lbs Nuts + Berries + Pumpkin Seeds organic trail mix 12.99
- 2.5 lbs organic figs (smoothies and chorizo skillets) 10.59
- 20 packs of organic + gluten free Made Good bite packs (great for lunches) 9.99
- 12 organic Fuji apples 10.99
- 5 lbs organic baby carrots (this is so big) 5.99
- 4 organic celery bunches 3.99
- 20 cooked organic beets 7.99
- 2 lbs organic whole bean coffee 13.99
- 16 oz Olivia's organic fresh spinach 3.99
- 6 conventional avocados for 6.99
- 24 oz Chosen Foods Coconut Mayo (I haven't tried this yet!) 7.99
- 6 organic bananas 1.79 (!?)
- 4 lbs organic frozen mango (smoothies) 9.29
- 4 lbs organic frozen blueberries (smoothies) 15.89
- 2 lbs organic peeled and cubed butternut squash (for a root soup) 6.49
- 4 lbs organic frozen brussels (I hope these roast well) 8.99
- 30 oz Stonewall Kitchen organic blueberry jam 10.69
- 1 liter conventional avocado oil 8.99
- Two organic whole chickens 10 lbs total 20.34
- 3 lbs organic ground turkey in 1 lb packs 19.99
Hopefully these staples will tide us over for a month (or two!!???) I mean how long will 10 lbs or brown rice last us!? What would you add?
Here are some more posts I've done on how to shop discerningly for organics:
- How To Shop A Farmers Market For Organics + Questions To Ask
- How To Buy Chicken: Reverse Label Reading


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Closing date: 13 April 2019 - 5:00pm(Addis Ababa time)
Duty station: Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
Job ID: 22275
Background Information
Job Purpose
Under the overall guidance of the Deputy Representative and with direct supervision of the Program Specialist for HIV prevention/Adolescent and Youth Development, s/he is responsible for supporting the Adolescent and Youth Reproductive Health (AYRH) programme and advocating for Sexual Reproductive Health & Rights (SRHR) and HIV linkages, with the overall aim of supporting the country in addressing barriers to efficient and effective linkages between HIV and Adolescent & Youth policies and services, increased access to and use of a broad range of quality integrated AYRH services including in humanitarian settings, as well as ensuring the inclusion of education, legal and gender dimensions in HIV prevention. S/he plays proactive role in the Joint UN Programme of support for HIV in the country.
Organizational Setting
Unit – HIV prevention/Adolescent and Youth Development,
Supervisor – HIV prevention/Adolescent and Youth Development Specialist
Main Tasks & Responsibilities
Facilitate UNFPA's engagement in coordination mechanisms related to HIV Prevention,Adolescent & Youth SRHR and HIV linkages in order to promote effective strategic partnerships
Provide technical support to national counterparts on Adolescent & Youth SRH&R and HIV linkages and maintain regular information sharing with relevant stakeholders to keep them abreast of the current developments on the SRHR and HIV linkages trends, experiences, challenges and priorities related to targeted groups;
S/He supports the implementation of the Country Programme in delivering quality Adolescent & Youth SRRH and HIV Integrated information and services which is aligned with the UNFPA strategic plan, the business model and national policy framework.
S/He furthers the UNFPA mandate on Adolescent & Youth SRHR, HIV Prevention, linkages and integration within the Joint UN Team on HIV/AIDS and other platforms
Facilitates integration of HIV/AIDS and condom programming with other SRH interventions including family planning and management of sexually transmitted infections.
Provides support and act as a focal point to create nexus between humanitarian and development settings for Adolescent & Youth SRHR and HIV/AIDS interventions.
In collaboration with the humanitarian unit at the CO, provides support for MISP implementation in humanitarian settings with special focus on Adolescent and Youth SRHR interventions
Supports the Country Office and the Government in mainstreaming human rights in HIV/AIDs and condom programming.
Provide technical backstopping to Regional Programme Officers as required in the areas of HIV/AIDS and Adolescent Reproductive Health
Participate in the planning and implementation of capacity building activities at central and regional levels.
Assist in national and regional advocacy efforts in the area of HIV/AIDS, AYRH and STIs with particular emphasis on contraception/FP services
Provide technical support in scale up and integration of Human Papilloma virus (HPV) with other adolescent and youth reproductive health programmes
The incumbent evaluates the soundness of strategies developed in the areas of HIV and SRH linkages and integration in the context of national strategies and standards and advises the country office management and national counterparts accordingly.
S/He supports the country office efforts to create and document knowledge about current and emerging, SRH/HIV integration and linkages by analysing programmes, projects, strategies, approaches and ongoing experiences for lessons learned, best practices, for use in knowledge sharing and planning future strategies.
Advise the office on issues regarding SRH/HIV in the context of the National HIV/AIDS Strategy, HIV Policy, Youth policy and other national HIV related strategies
Analyzes country situation to identify opportunities for programme development, draft proposals, formulate and implement work plans
Represent the Country Office as required in technical meetings related to HIV/AIDS, PMTCT, STI, HPV and other related policies and programs with relevant sectoral offices and development partners.
Substantively contribute in the Joint UN HIV/AIDS Prevention Implementation task force, SRH/HIV Integration and other related TWGs.
Monitor specific stages of projects/programme implementation and write periodic reports
Undertake other activities as assigned by the immediate supervisor and/or by the senior management of the country office.
The incumbent:
Establishes and fosters harmonious working relationship with senior management, her/his supervisor, other programme officers, and subordinates
partners with officials of implementing partners particularly to Federal and Regional HIV/AIDS Prevention and Control Offices (HAPCOs), Federal Ministry of Health (FMOH) and Regional Health Bureaus (RHBs), Universities, local and international NGOs working in area of SRH/HIV Integration , and other organizations to advocate for and ensure implementation of the International Conference on Population and Development Plan of Action (ICPD POA) that pertains to HIV prevention and AYRH.
Qualifications and Experience
MSc/MA in Health, public health, Social sciences, behavioural sciences, social work, & social psychology. Public Health qualification is preferred.
Knowledge and Experience:
Minimum of 2 years progressive experience in the area of HIV/AIDS and Adolescent and Youth Development at technical level. Field experience is highly recommended. Previous UN/NGO experience is preferred
Proficiency in English and working knowledge of any other UN language is an advantage.
Other desirable skills:
Proficiency in current office software applications.
Required Competencies
• Exemplifying integrity
• Demonstrating commitment to UNFPA and the UN system
• Embracing diversity in all its forms
• Embracing change
Core Competencies:
• Achieving Results
• Being Accountable
• Developing and Applying Professional Expertise/Business Acumen
• Thinking analytically and Strategically
• Working in Teams/Managing Ourselves and our Relationships
• Communicating for Impact
Functional Competencies:
Results-based programme development and management
Innovation and marketing of new approaches
Leveraging the resources of national governments and partners/Building strategic alliances and partners
Resource mobilization
UNFPA Work Environment
UNFPA provides a work environment that reflects the values of gender equality, teamwork, Embracing diversity in all its forms, integrity and a healthy balance of work and life. We are committed to maintaining our balanced gender distribution and therefore encourage women to apply. UNFPA promotes equal opportunities for all including persons with disabilities.
Closing Statement
Notice: There is no application, processing or other fee at any stage of the application process. UNFPA does not solicit or screen for information in respect of HIV or AIDS and does not discriminate on the basis of HIV/AIDS status.
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Scarecrow 5k
Join Gladstone for the 23-annual Scarecrow 5K Run/Walk and 1 Mile Fun Walk, sponsored by Gladstone Parks & Recreation, Harley Davidson and Gladstone Rotary Club. The event will take place on Sunday, October 7th beginning at 7:30 a.m. All proceeds collected during the event will be donated to the Northland Christmas Store and all participants will receive a t-shirt.
The Northland Christmas Store is a 501©3 non-profit organization which assists families in need during the holiday season. The Northland Christmas Store provides services for over 3,000 men, women and children and 250 senior shut-ins each year.
Registrations will be taken through race day. The Early Bird Special is offered for prompt participants who register by September 7, 2018 for only $18 per runner. All other early registrants, September 8 through August 4 pay $25 per participant. Registrants who sign up on race day pay $30 per participant. A family rate is available with the first participant paying the full rate and each additional family member paying only $15.
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