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1.1 Introduction
Industrial automation utilizes sensors, embedded design, control systems and information technology to reduce the need for human intervention. In the scope of industrialization, automation is a step beyond mechanization. Whereas mechanization provided human operators with machinery to assist them with the physical requirements of work, automation greatly reduces the need for human sensory and mental requirements.
Most of the world automated their industries knowing the fact that mass production is no longer efficient at hourly worker rates, which completely changed the way of getting information, information analysis, decision and action selection and the action implementation for long time. Industrial automation is always an area of concern in all over the Pakistan. From the early area of industries till today they are suffering from automation problems similarly if we talk about the cold storage industry we will see this problem in high percentage over there, Pakistan is one of the largest producers of major corps, fruits and vegetables in the world as shown in the table 1. But instead of having excess like other agricultural countries we mostly have shortages because most of the corps and fruits produced here are not properly utilized and hence wasted or exported due to lack of proper storage facilities.
1.1.1 Importance of Controlled Environment
Preservation of food by proper storage assumes great importance in a country. Fresh fruits and vegetables contain high water contents and are generally more perishable than other crops. These are biologically living individuals, and continue normal life processes e.g. respiration and other biochemical processes even after harvest. After detaching from plants their nutrients and water needs are not completely fulfilled and their internal reserves play their part to carry on their biological activities.
These activities are largely influenced by the environmental conditions such as temperature, humidity in which they are kept after harvesting. Hence in order to maintain quality, improve their shelf life and extend marketing period of fruits and vegetables, the control of environment conditions during storage and transportations are very much important. There are almost 2500 cold storages in Pakistan and none of them is automated and a few of them which are having this facility they invested a lot for that. So a cheap solution of this problem is the need of time.
1.1.2 Food Storage problem
For storage of food items in a cold storage various measurements are required to record the temperature, humidity and other factors in different parts of the large cold store to make the automation work effectively. Accurate measurement of temperature with high resolution and stability at low temperature for fresh saving is a big problem in a cold storage thus a temperature sensor having high resolution and stability is desirable.
Sr. No |
Commodity |
World Production rank |
1 |
Chick-Peas |
2 |
2 |
Okra |
3 |
3 |
Apricots |
4 |
4 |
Mangoes |
4 |
5 |
Dates |
5 |
6 |
Onions, Dry |
5 |
7 |
Sugar Cane |
5 |
8 |
Fruit Tropical |
7 |
9 |
Cauliflower |
8 |
10 |
Wheat |
9 |
11 |
Pistachios |
10 |
12 |
Oranges |
12 |
13 |
Peas, Green |
14 |
Table 1: Agricultural output of Pakistan 2009-10
1.1.3 Existing solutions and benefits of automation
The conventional monitoring system is very expensive and complex. In conventional cold storage the temperature adjustment and storage method depends upon the experience of the expert operator. This creates the problem that an operator/ assistant should always stay at the cold storage to adjust the temperature and manage the system by periodic measurements. There is always a factor of negligence and inaccuracy due to human intervention and a slight negligence can cost the perishing of the whole stored product. This issue can be resolved through automation. The major attributes of desired automation and control system are listed below:
- Automation system is required to control the storage environment and to perform decision automatically for the preset values so no need an operator to always stay at the storage.
- To ensure a controlled environment, the proposed automation system is required to measure temperature accurately with high resolution. A higher measured resolution would provide more time for initiating an accurate and appropriate response. For example, potatoes are to be stored within temperature range of 0-20C. Recession of temperature below 00C would blacken potatoes and exposure to temperatures above 20C would increase starch production is stored potatoes resulting in depreciation in net worth of stored produce.
- Automation can reduce the role of operator to just check whether the system is working correctly and the system has provision of remote monitoring through wireless network.
- Power consumption and continuous power supply is also a factor in stability of the system. So less power consumption and automatically operated generators can be an important feature of the automated system. Less power consumption can be achieved by having throw away sensors and their monitoring by a central controller instead of having multiple sensors and measuring their temperature separately.
- Providing remote access is also a key feature of the project as it provides the user with the freedom to control the system from any place instead of remaining at the site all the time. For this purpose central controller sends the data to remote user using existing wireless mobile infrastructure.
1.1.4 Automation:
"Automation is a process or systems which control the operation of different equipment" or "the technique, method or system of operating or controlling a process by highly automatic means, as are electronic devices, reducing human intervention to a minimum".
Automation is the use of information technologies to reduce man power in the production of goods and services. In the scope of industrialization, automation is a step beyond mechanization. Whereas mechanization provided human operators with machinery to assist them with the muscular requirements of work, automation greatly decreases the need for human sensory and mental requirements as well. Automation plays an increasingly important role in the world economy and in daily experience.
18.104.22.168 Accurate measurement
Accurate measurement of temperature with high resolution and stability at low temperature for fresh fruits and vegetables is a big advantage. It reduces the human errors part and increases the storing period of food by maintaining the same product quality.
184.108.40.206 Cost
Automation reduces the cost of labor which is a great benefit at both ends.
220.127.116.11 Automatic alarming decisions
Automatic alarming and decisions on the preset threshold is a very a big advantage in case of emergency as well as any circumstances.
188.8.131.52 Remote access
Remote access is provided to give user a extra benefit so that he can control the decision making powers on the way.
220.127.116.11 Low Power
Low power consumption is one of the great benefits in present circumstances for Pakistan.
1.1.5 Economic situation of Pakistan
The economic situation of Pakistan demands a cheap and accurate automation system which everyone can easily afford. The only way to achieve minimum cost is to develop a home grown solution. After looking into matter and to overcome the problem, the system we have designed for the automation of cold storages is cost effective, accurate, power efficient and scalable with automatically operated alarms, chillers and generators when required. Instead of automated decisions, functions of system can be controlled by a remote authorized user using remote access.
1.1.6 Ultimate Solution
After looking into matter and to overcome the problem, the system we have designed for the automation of cold storages is cheap, accurate, power efficient and scalable with automatically operated alarms, chillers and generators when required. Instead of automated decisions, functions of system can be controlled by a remote authorized user using remote access. Below are previous development and our further work on the automation of cold storages
1.2 Objective of the project
Our project is aimed to provide a cheap solution in the field of industrial automation regarding the cold storage industry, and it will improve overall progress of the cold storages. We have design a prototype of automation system which will monitor the environmental conditions of the cold storage like temperature and humidity and it will respond automatically on the preset values of the sensors in case of automatic mode. Remote access is provided to give administrator the freedom to not get fixed to a fixed location they can check the system on the go. The remote access device consists of wireless module, user interface and microcontroller. The central controller sends all the alarm alerts and automated actions taken to the remote user using wireless medium, user can proceed with the automatic action or take some action himself. Using Man-Machine interface user can interact with the system and can be able to set/change temperature alarm limit or can bypass automatic decision process of the central controller and can turn on Chillers/Generators himself.
From the beginning of industries, Pakistan is suffering from automation problems similarly if we talk about the cold storage industry we will see this problem in high percentage over there, we try to minimize this major problem of automation by providing cheap and accurate solution to serve our country in better way.
CHAPTER 2: Related Work and Hardware Description
2.1 Literature review
- The Rinnovando group [1] has studied tomato greenhouses in the South of Italy with Sensicast devices for measuring the air temperature, relativity humidity and soil temperature measurements with wireless sensor network. They have also developed a Web-based plant monitoring application. Greenhouse grower can read the measurements over the Internet, and an alarm will be sent to his mobile phone by SMS or GPRS if some measurement variable changes rapidly. Bridge node gathers data from other sensor nodes, which transmit the measurements of temperature and relative humidity in one minute intervals [1].
- Mohsin et. al. [2] have researched automation of poultry farms in Pakistan with wireless sensors based on Crossbow's TelosB Mote TRP2420 and temperature and humidity sensor sht111, which measures temperature with accuracy ±0.3 and humidity with accuracy ±2%. Multiple sensor are
- Lim et. al. [3] worked on the automation of the cold storage. They developed a remote monitoring system using serial communication. The system is useful for managing a cold-storage. The composition of the system includes a cold-storage, a freezing unit, a temperature controller, a data collection device, a communication device, and monitoring program. In their system the computer programs collets the data and an operator is required to monitor computer program and to make decisions [3]
- Freitas et. al. [8] proposed a system for monitoring and control of a cooling system in a commercial store based on PLC's. Their system collects data through computer program and makes action according to needs. Their system generates GSM alert to the operator. Operator will perform the action required. They worked more on software design for collecting 2 temperature data showing its graphical and average values and generating reports for the authorities [8].
Deployed and temperature and humidity from every sensor is measured after 10 minutes. Due to wireless network their indoor communication distance with tolerable packet loss is 40 meters. These results are then stored in a computer program and decision is performed by the operator on the computer [2].
These are some existing solutions available but drawbacks of these solutions are:
- They are not fully automated as they require some operator to make decision on calculated values.
- There is not reliable communication on long distance due to their design.
- Their sensing and decision making accuracy is very less.
- They are also too expensive for local buyers.
2.2 Design architecture:
Our design divided in three major parts:
- Sensing unit
- Central controller
- Remote access unit
2.2.1 Sensing unit
In sensing unit there are a lot of temperature, humidity and carbon dioxide sensors to control temperature, humidity and air quality of cold storage. We used throw away temperature sensors.
We place temperature sensors at different heights in cold storage to take decision on average temperature value.
2.2.2 Central Controller
Central control unit consist of
- Micro controller
- LCD display
- User interface keypad
- Relays and Contactors
2.2.3 Remote Access Unit
In remote access unit we have provided remote access to administrator because not to get fix at fixed location. Remote access device consist of wireless module, user interface and microcontroller.
2.3 Component selection:
After literature review we start to analyze the problem and gathered the idea of developing a prototype for industrial automation specifically cold storage industry, moving toward that we gathered the problems of the present scenario and environmental parameters such as temperature, humidity were a big factor for the spoilage of food and vegetables in the cold storages. To maintain the environmental stability we started to work on that step by step.
2.3.1 Temperature sensor
Our first aims was to monitor the temperature accurately and maintain its stability for that purpose firstly we develop a temperature sensor of 0.10C accuracy level using LM35 but in our case high resolution of temperature is required so shifted towards DS1820 to maintain high accuracy level
188.8.131.52 Using lm35
LM35 is an analogue sensor which gives 10mV across a single step in temperature. We have achieved 0.10C. But it was not up to the mark for our desired problem in sensitive environment like cold storages. Output of this sensor gets easily affected by noise and hence the received temperature is neither accurate nor reliable for 0.10C accuracy. So in search of better accuracy we found DS1820 as the most accurate and reliable solution.[19]
126.96.36.199 Using ds1820
DS1820 is a digital sensor having scratch pad of 9Bytes. Temperature is calculated and stored in 9bits in sensor. One Wire Communication protocol is used while communicating with sensor. So both transmission and receiving occur at the same pin. We achieved accuracy of 0.06250C first time by changing its internal parameters. This accuracy was satisfactory for our desired problem.
2.3.2 Humidity sensor
We use h34DL humidity sensor it is also an analogue sensor and easily available in the market to measure the humidity level in the environment. The output of this sensor is relative humidity.
2.3.3 GSM Module
Remote access is also provided to the administrator knowing the fact that he cannot be available at the central controller all the time. For that purpose we use GSM module named SIM300DZ.
2.3.4 Microcontroller
We use PIC microcontroller instead of ATMEL and DALLAS microcontroller, because it is easily available in the market and cost effectiveness as well as microcontroller is free development tool and they have greater memory as compared to other choices. Selection of microcontroller was totally relying on the memory usage by our control system that's why we change the microcontrollers time by time according to our requirements and progress of the project.
- Pic16f873
- Pic16f877A
- Pic18f452
We started our project with PIC16f873 but as the project went our memory requirements increased then we opted for PIC16f877A. But as further devices are interfaced our memory requirements increased. So we opted for PIC18f452 which has 32k of programmable memory and our project till now is working well with this controller.[16][15]
This chapter describes about the previous work done in this regard. And then a proposed idea for the required solution is discussed. Then used hardware components and there selection procedure is discussed. This chapter is basically giving the idea on what has been done so far and what we have done as a new solution.
Chapter 3: Prototype Development
3.1 Sensors Interfacing
Two types of sensors are interfaced in this system
- Temperature Sensor
- Humidity
3.1.1 Temperature sensor
DS1820 Temperature sensor was interfaced with microcontroller PIC18F452. We use PORT D (D3-D7) of microcontroller to communicate with the temperature sensors. Temperature sensors DS1820 sense temperature then convert it into digital form because of built in A/D converter by the CONVERT T commands or [44h] and store it in the scratchpad memory.
Ow_Write (&PORTD,3,0x44);
We calculated our desired temperature by following:
Temperature=temp_read - 0.25 + (COUNT_PER_C - COUNT_REMAIN) ∕ (COUNT_PER_C).
First, read the temperature, and truncate the 0.5°C bit (the LSB) from the read value. This value is TEMP_READ. COUNT_PER_C and COUNT_REMAIN are the registers of the scratchpad of DS1820. The fabricator of DS1820 makes a constant value of 10h of COUNT_PER_C but the values of
COUNT_REMAIN changes with the changing of temperature.
We read different applications of the scratchpad of DS1820 by following command
Ow_Read (&PORTD,3)
We compare the temperature values according to the preset values in the scratch pad for automatic alarming purpose in case of alarming it set alarm flag.
3.1.2 Humidity sensor
h34DL Humidity sensor was interfaced with microcontroller PIC18F452. We use PORTA(A0-A4). Humidity sensor the humidity of the environment and generate an analog signal according to Relative humidity level and send to the PORT A of microcontroller then we convert the analog data into digital form by following command
ADC_Read(pin no)
3.2 LCD Interfacing
A display unit of our prototype is LCD 16x4. We use PORT B for this display unit. We initialize and display results on the LCD by following commands.
LCD_init (&PORT B)
LCD_out (row,column, text)
LCD_chr (row,column, char)
Data coming from different sensors is displayed on it and all other parameters such as alarming information and user interface displayed on it. It is 4 bit LCD which uses 4 higher bits of PORT B to display data on the LCD.
3.3 Keypad Interfacing
A user interface 4x4 KEYPAD is also interfaced with the microcontroller PIC18F452 to set the required preset thresholds for different purposes such as alarming and we can also monitor the specific sensor of the network and perform the desired operation.
We used CD4010 for buffering data in between SIM300DZ and PIC microcontroller and maintain their functional capabilities according their threshold level.
3.5 GSM Module (SIM300) Interfacing
Remote access is also provided in our prototype. The communication protocol we used is GSM. To provide GSM communication we used SIM300DZ GSM Modem. We interface this module with PIC18F452 microcontroller at serial port (TX/RX)
We use AT command set to configure our GSM module with the controller which perform the following task:
Send SMS
Receive SMS
To configure our GSM module we provide the table of AT commands in the APPENDIX of table.
3.6 Hardware and Software Design
3.6.1 Simulation
We used MikroC for coding and Proteus 7.4 for simulation.
22.214.171.124 Proteus Simulation
We simulated our final prototype in Proteus version 7.4 time to time and upgrade the required changing's in our final design. The final simulation diagram is provided below.
126.96.36.199 Coding
Coding of the whole system is done using MIKRO C and code is provided in a CD.
3.6.2 Final hardware implementation
We implemented the final circuit diagram of our prototype by interfacing all the components with the microcontroller PIC18F452 and enabling the controller a power supply of 5V DC.
We constructed hardware interfacing one by one on vero board. After interfacing of whole system on very board we then converted it into the final stage on PCB (Print Circuited Board).
We use PIC18F452 as a central controller having 40 pins including 5 i/o PORTS having memory of 32KB. Power consumption is important factor of our final prototype. Features of microcontroller provided at the APPENDIX.
3.7 Hardware Diagram
3.8 Results:
Following table shows some of achievements of our product.
Features |
Values |
Temperature Step Size |
0.0625oC |
Temp. Data transmission range using wired medium |
Greater than 250meters |
Time for measuring temperature of a single sensor |
1 Second. |
Total No. of cold storages in Pakistan |
533[9] |
Min. Power saved per storage due to automation |
10-15 kWh per day(minimum) |
Total power saved if all storages in Punjab, Pakistan are automated |
i)5330-7995 kWh per day ii)1945450-2918175 kWh per year |
Average cost of commercially available systems |
25,000 - 30,000$ |
Total cost of our developed system |
350 - 400$ |
Table 2: Results & Conclusions
As from table the temperature step size is 0.06250C so we will have more instances to perform decisions and this will contribute in saving power. The reliable temperature transmission range is greater than 250 meters so size of the store doesn't matter our system can easily manage large stores. As system is précised so power can be saved and an average of 10-15 units per day per cold storage are saved. And all of us
Know that power is the major crisis in Pakistan these days so we can save up to 2MW to 3MW of power per year if all the storages are automated which is quite an achievement. There are already some cold storage automation systems available in market but they are not installed in our country because they are too expensive. So taking in account this problem we have reduced to cost of the system to a great extent.
3.9 Operating System Interaction
3.9.1 Keypad Control
Direct Control is provided on the system using keypad user can perform different function while operating in manual functionality. There are two type of functionality provided on the system
- Automatic
- Manual
184.108.40.206 Automatic:
In automatic menu temperature of all the sensors is calculated and decision is performed according to presets set by the user. Humidity is also calculated at the automatic menu.
System Check for SMS all the time whether manual or automatic.
Go back to Main Menu(B)
22.214.171.124 Manual:
In manual functioning system can perform different task by pressing following keys
Setting of Temperate Limits (#)
Checking Specific Sensor Data (Sensor Number 1,2,3…)
Setting New System Password (A)
To shutdown System(*)
Turn Chiller ON(7)
Turn chiller OFF(8)
Go back to Main Menu(B)
3.9.2 Remote Control:
Remote Operation is carried out by Checking NEW SMS all the time and after the function is performed notification of the function is also sent.
Basic GSM SMS format
<Password><Command><command requisite>
Following are the set of different GSM commands to interact with system
<Password>pc<new password> Password Change
<Password>nc<new number> Number Change
<Password>amABCDEFG Automatic or Manual Conversion
A=1 Manual
A=0 Automatic
B=1 Chiller ON
B=0 Chiller OFF
B=t Send temperature
B=l set temp limit
C=u upper limit
C=l lower limit
DEFG=XX.X temperature Limits
<Password>td Send temperature Data
Apart from these commands if some non registered user tries to assess the system a notification is sent to the registered user of unauthorized access.
After gathering the idea implementation was the most important stage of any project for that purpose we move towards the final structure step by step and chose the components which were easily available in the market. This chapter also concludes the impact of project on the community as well.
Chapter 4: Wireless Sensor Module
Wireless sensor is basically a sensor sending measured data using air as a medium. Firstly we developed the whole system working on wired topology. Then we decided to completely make the sensors throw away so we decided to make the sensor wireless. The proposed architecture for the wireless sensor module is described in this chapter.
4.1 Essentials for a Wireless Sensor Module:
There are certain basic requirements to develop wireless sensor modules which are listed below.
- Sensor (Temperature or Humidity etc)
- Microcontroller
- Wireless Transmitter
- Wireless Receiver
- Battery
4.1.1 Sensor:
We have developed a wireless temperature sensor module. The sensor used in this module is the same sensor used previously in the Wired topology system i.e. DS1820. Our proposed design is integrate able for large number of temperature sensor as well as humidity sensors together in one module. So in this sense system can be easily made cost effective also.
4.1.2 Microcontroller:
As there are less programming requirements for a wireless sensor module so we have used Pic16f877A as the controlling device. It completely satisfies the memory requirements of the system. And it is used keeping in mind integration of multiple sensors on a same module in future.
4.1.3 Wireless Transmitter:
The requirement of wireless transmission bandwidth is very low for our system. So we have used a 4 Bit RF Transmitter using encoder PT2262[18] for that purpose. Wireless transmitter consists of a decoder and an antenna. The working of transmitter is described in following steps
- Set the binary data on the data pins
- Set the enable pin to high
- Data will get transmitted till enable pin is high
- Data wont get transmitted if enable pin is low
- For a good and accurate reception the minimum time for transmission is 250ms. Means you have to keep data pins and enable pin high for at least that much amount of time.
- After the data is transmitted set the enable pin to low.
- To send further data go to step one
4.1.4 Wireless Receiver:
To receive the 4 bit data transmitted a 4 bit Radio Frequency receiver is used. Receiver also consists of an antenna and a decoder. The signal received at antenna is decoded using the decoder. The decoder used for this purpose is PT2272[17] 4 bit RF decoder. The working of receiver is as follows.
- When the data arrives at the receiver it will decode the data
- When the data arrives the enable pin will get on
- After checking that enable pin is on the status of data pins can be read
- After reading the data of 4 data pins for 250ms it can be stored.
- To receive more data go to step one.
4.1.5 Battery:
There is no wired connection to supply power to a wireless sensor module. So we need a battery to supply power for the operations of the module. This module can work on any battery greater than 5Vs.
4.2 System Design:
The whole system is designed as follows
- A sensor and transmitter are connected to form a wireless sensor module. Plus a battery is attached for continuous power supply.
- A receiver is attached to controller which will collect the data of all the transmitting sensor modules. The data will be sent in the allotted time for the sensor. There is another event based approach also which will be discussed later.
- After receiving the data it is passed to central controller which will compare it with preset values and perform the necessary actions described in the working of central controller in previous chapter.
4.3 Results:
Features |
Values |
Temperature Step Size |
0.1oC |
Temp. Data transmission range using Wireless |
>25Meter |
Time for transmitting temperature |
2 Second. |
Total cost of our developed wireless system |
Vary with number of sensors used. |
Table 3: Results for Wireless Module
As given in the above table the temperature precision is reduced due to low data rate of the wireless module. The achieved reliable transmission range between a receiver and a transmitter is 25meter in case of line of sight communication. As data rate is low so we send temperature of 12 bits into 3 sequences of 4 bits. To transfer these three sequences approximately 1 sec is required. And one second is the time required to calculate the temperature of sensor. Total time for measuring temperature using wireless medium is 2 seconds. As the system can integrate any numbers of sensors so its cost will vary with number of sensors used. Accuracy of the system increase with increased number of wireless temperature sensors used.
This chapter completely describes the wireless sensor module formation and action performance. In this chapter all the essentials for a wireless sensor module are discussed in details.
CHAPTER 5 Conclusion and Future Works
5.1 Social Impact
Following are all the results which include system analysis, economic analysis and impact on common men.
5.1.1 System Analysis
After thoroughly studying the power requirements and working capability of the system we have found out the system is working well under the desired conditions. Each and every block of the
system is giving the desired results so system is ready to be deployed in the cold storage industry. This system is easy to develop so mass production is also very fast for the developed system.
5.1.2 Economic Analysis
As shown from the results section the cost of the system is greatly reduced. So as far as we are a developing country it will be of great benefit to the industry who don't automated there warehouses due to cost problems because imported system are very expensive. But apart from the cost the major factor that automation introduced is the saving of electrical power. As we all know we are passing through a power crisis so this will be of huge impact. There are two possible ways to fulfill power need one is to increase production and 2nd is to reduce usage. So by adapting to this system we are opting for the 2nd option which is less expensive and have good present as well as future impact on the power crises in our society.
5.1.3 Impact on Public
Previously due to lack of proper storage capacity most of the extra food production got wasted. And hence in shortages common men have to bear high inflation rates. So they can't afford to buy those things but by adapting to automation this problem also get resolved. Now if we have proper storage we can curtail food shortages and hence no inflation and buying power of common men remain same throughout the year.
5.2 Conclusion
An accurate, reliable and low cost industrial automation system with remote monitoring and control features has been presented in this project. The system is intended to reduce food spoilage and shortages and is found to conserve power as well. The communication among sensors has been found to be reliable and rate of error is minimal as wired communication is used to transfer data from sensors to central control unit.
Compared to wired system wireless is more scalable due to elimination of wires. The wireless sensor created is completely throwaway. But due to use of wireless the precision of transmitted temperature data got less to 0.1 with compared to 0.0625 that of wired. As compared to wireless wired system is more reliable.
5.3 Future Works
In future, we wish to introduce efficient Wireless communication among sensors and include better, energy efficient, non round based communication protocols.
We have searched for a future enhancement which is as follows.
The new proposed system will use a high data rate and long rage RF transceiver RFM22B.
RFM22B Features:
- Frequency Range: 433/868/915MHz ISM bands
- Sensitivity = -121 dBm
- Output power range: +20 dBm Max
- Data Rate = 0.123 to 256 kbps
- FSK, GFSK, and OOK modulation
- Power Supply = 1.8 to 3.6 V
- Ultra low power shutdown mode
- Digital RSSI
- Wake-up timer
- Auto-frequency calibration (AFC)
- Power-on-reset (POR)
- Antenna diversity and TR switch control
- Configurable packet handler
- Preamble detector
- TX and RX 64 byte FIFOs
- Low battery detector
- Temperature sensor and 8-bit ADC
- -40 to +85 °C temperature range
- Integrated voltage regulators
- Frequency hopping capability
- On-chip crystal tuning
Dimensions:16 x 16mm (0.63 x 0.63 in) [14]
Future Applications:
- Body Sensor Network
- Wireless monitoring system
- Wireless File Transfer
- Long Range Wireless communication using ADHOC network


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How do any of us balance the needs of our child with SN with that of siblings? How do any of us know if we're getting it right?
We won't know until it's too late
Judgeypantedness is so easy until you have to walk the mile in someone elses shoes. The right solution for holiday arrangements etc is the one that best suits the specific needs of that family - NOT what other people think ought to suit them ffs.
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I'm grateful for my sister - without realising it I absorbed so much useful info growing up that helped stop me ever becoming one of the intolerant bigoted cows you see on the AIBU threads so often. Life isn't fair, it's how you deal with it that counts and society seems to be raising increasingly narcissitic individuals with each passing generation. I'm very, very proud to be part of the movement that bucks that trend all thanks to having a SN sibling.
When I'm old and grey and I look back on life I will be able to say I did my best.... And I can sleep knowing that and I'm sure in 20 years time I will feel the same way
Really sorry to intrude but that thread pissed me off. I called the op a goading cunt and was promptly deleted. Yet the thread was not deleted for almost 24 hours despite loads of reports. It clearly was goady, disabilist fuckwittery. It boils my piss that mnhq will not deal promptly with stufff. You guys really dont deserve any more shit. I am so sorry.
Thanks everyone. I've realised that I'm never going to get it right, so I'll stop stressing about getting it wrong
'When I'm old and grey and I look back on life I will be able to say I did my best'
I'm old and grey, my babies are both adult now.
You never get it right all the time, but no parent ever does. You love your children lougle, all of them. You try and do what you can to the best of your ability. That's as good as it gets.
Idshag, you're not intruding. We welcome visitors [tea], and in the tin...
Feeling pleasantly superior to a bunch of numpties isn't restricted to MNSN-regulars, anyone can join in, SN isn't an obligatory pre-requisite for being a decent human being thanks goodness
Thanks for the tea and biscuits.
I have taken DD away without DS. He is unable to travel. He requires 24/7 hands on attention. I feel gutted that he is not able to be with us and the time away is always bitter sweet as I can't help noticing boys his age out with their families and everyone being together. I am glad that I was able to do it so that DD has some special memories of her childhood where she came first. The reality is that DS needs have been so exhausting that DD has come second I feel very bad saying that but for many years we were on survival mode here. I have tried to balance their attention needs , I hope that if and when DD has her own children she may understand a bit more but it has been very very difficult for her.
I thought about this thread this morning, after this little exchange at the breakfast table.
dd2 (5) - I've got a question
me - yes, dd2?
dd2 - why doe ds get more attention than me and dd1?
dd1-ooh, I know, I know! Because he is more important than we are!
me and dh - er, um no, really girls that is not true......
I was so taken aback by the conversation, i was completely stumped as to what to say. I feel as though we have obviously fucked up somewhere, because this is obviously how they see the family working, and we try so hard to give them lots of attention, but sometimes (like the last month of ds having pneumonia and appointments every 2 days) it is really hard.
I wouldn't worry too much hazey. I remember seeing some programme on teams, where a random group were asked to do a specific task. Apparently it was easy to tell first borns, children in the middle, second borns, youngest etc.
I think we are all partly engineered to behave in certain ways due to the order we were born in. I've always thought that firstborns must think "wasn't I good enough that they had to have another?"
DS1 says the same about DS2 but in a 'you prefer him to me' way. He totally ignores DS3 in this matter I just take it to be natural rivalry of the usurper.
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*Squeezes Lee's Cheeks* I'm so proud! btw, everyone - I've seen Lee's bit and it is very entertaining . You should all watch it! He's right, he is scary in it . e
Ha! Thanks guys, It's kind of weird. This is my second film to air on TV. And I only do this as a hobby! I feel pretty lucky. It's lots of fun.
That is so awesome! Please dont forget to let us know when it airs, I'll definately check it out, even though I'm not much of a horror fan. Maybe you should consider a career change, since your pretty successful at this with it being "only" a hobby. Congratulations.
Many congrats. Now where's my money? No, that's cool. While I hate MTV and all that it stands for, you getting a shot in the spotlight is pretty awesome.
Eek, no. It would cease to be fun. If it were to become my job, I would start to hate it. Trust me, it's better this way.
You guys, its not going to be on MTV. Logo is just owned by MTV Networks (well viacom even). So yeah, no need to worry if you hate MTV. Logo is actually an LGBT interest channel. They show quite a bit of short films actually. Just an FYI for those of you saying "Good thing you didnt make a music video as MTV wouldnt show it."
Yeah right . Lee often laughs of my lack of knowledge of the film industry. I'd be the worst manager in the world . I just want to pinch his cheeks . Both of them. e


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post #4726 of 70674/13/14 at 5:39ampost #4727 of 70674/13/14 at 5:40amQuote:Originally Posted by luv2breformed
See, I have that problem with more structured shoulders because the padding causes the fabric to divot when my arm isn't right there to fill the space up. However, with softer shoulders that are less structured and padded, I have found that the shoulder is more free to conform to my natural shoulder which may be a tad narrower. YMMV
This, too, is incorrect. Improper fit causes divots, not width or padding or structure. See Frederick Scholte and Tommy Nutter.post #4728 of 70674/13/14 at 10:33ampost #4729 of 70674/13/14 at 12:38pmpost #4730 of 70674/13/14 at 2:13pmHi. I got these two suits from low-mid end tailors in HK. I will be returning soon and am considering returning to these tailors or alternatively other ones, and as such I would like comments on their handiwork, quality/value, opinions on which/whether I should go for more suits, and so on. These two suits cost between 500-600 USD. When I got them I couldn't have known better as they are some of my first suits, and even now I find them to be decent, but I would like opinions of people with higher standard. Please don't mind the wet patch on the linen suit I had some water spilled onto it. Also sorry for the pictures not being quite straight and clear I was in a hurry.
Pulling elbows back
Raising elbows.
Thanks for looking.
post #4731 of 70674/13/14 at 9:38pmQuote:Originally Posted by othertravel
Hi tailors, @Despos
The chest and shoulders on this suit fit well, but there's wrinkling in the sleeves. Can that be fixed? Does it require rotating the sleeves?
Thanks!If it's RTW, the chest is a tad small and it's pulling fabric where the sleeves are attached. So, the fit of the chest is not good if it causes that. You just happen to like how close it is.
post #4732 of 70674/13/14 at 9:41pmpost #4733 of 70674/13/14 at 9:43pmQuote:armhole distortion usually caused by tightness over the blades pulling at the armhole causing it to collapse. This creates excess vertical length at the sleeve cap.
post #4734 of 70674/13/14 at 9:47pm
I have heard that due to the openness of the fresco weave, one should only use dark lining, as it is possible for the color to show through if a lighter/contrasting lining is used (if a flash camera is used, if the sun is behind you, etc)
Do you find this to be true?post #4735 of 70674/13/14 at 9:52pmQuote:Originally Posted by Isolation
Hi. I got these two suits from low-mid end tailors in HK. I will be returning soon and am considering returning to these tailors or alternatively other ones, and as such I would like comments on their handiwork, quality/value, opinions on which/whether I should go for more suits, and so on. These two suits cost between 500-600 USD. When I got them I couldn't have known better as they are some of my first suits, and even now I find them to be decent, but I would like opinions of people with higher standard. Please don't mind the wet patch on the linen suit I had some water spilled onto it. Also sorry for the pictures not being quite straight and clear I was in a hurry.
Pulling elbows back
Raising elbows.
Thanks for looking.
They look to be too wide in the shoulders (esp the linen). Shoulders may not be sloped enough nor are they cut correctly---especially for the lower right shoulder. The prominent blades are really hard to get around and to some degree, you may always experience distortion in the back from them. Also, the back balance appears to be too long and not correctly adjusted for the swayback/forward hips. The jackets are falling down in the back and hitting your hips. Lots of work to correct all this with alterations.
post #4736 of 70674/13/14 at 9:55pmQuote:Originally Posted by Jeff Nguyen
I bought a Brooks Brothers Fitzgerald suit on ebay based on listed measurements. I know the trousers and jacket sleeves need to be shortened, but I am unsure about the rest of the fit. What do you all think? Also, excuse the oxford shirt and loafers, as I am traveling for work, and don't have anything else to wear with the suit right now. https://imgur.com/a/LCV8Z
Thanks!We can't tell from the selfie.
post #4737 of 70674/13/14 at 10:04pmQuote:Originally Posted by ShawnBC
Hi guys!
I have received my Suit Supply tuxedo(s) this afternoon (BTW excellent turnaround time, I ordered from Suit Supply on Wednesday April 2nd and received my order this afternoon - Friday April 4th) and would like your input.
Now, keep in mind that I am not your average lean/fit #menswear enthusiast, therefore I am a little harder to fit, be it in office clothing or casual attire. For the record, I'm 6' and currently 245lbs and trying to lose some, with a 47" chest. I lost 23lbs since January 1st and plan on losing 10lbs more until my wedding which is planned on July 12th of this year.
This is my first order with Suit Supply, so I used both their Size Advisor and Measurement page to guide my purchase. I order the tuxedo in 46R and 48R.
Def keep the 48R. Have the collar roll removed ( it is posture related). The jacket would require more front suppression so it doesn't pull around your sides. This is more involved than the normal sideseam adjustment. See the tailor's tutorials and look for the thread on jacket waist suppression. See the example where the front part only gets sucked in.
With the pants, it's harder to tell because you had no pics for us to see but it's probably releasing the back part of the fork and perhaps reshaping the lower part of the seat to give you more room back there.
post #4738 of 70674/13/14 at 10:09pmQuote:Originally Posted by GloStiX
Very specific question for the experts here:
Jacket has too much skirt flare.
Red = problem area, gap between hip width and jacket hip.
Green = the contour I want to achieve.
It looks much more severe in person, because this picture is taken from top-down angle so it enhances chest width and gives the illusion that the hips aren't as wide as they are. In real life it looks like a tutu!
My question is: how do I fix this? Which seam should I (or my tailor, assuming I can find a competent one around here) take in? Pinning the center back seam didn't help, it maintained the hip flare shape. I think the jacket needs to be taken in from the side vent seams, kind of "rotating" the front quarters of the jacket. Any advice?
You're close to right except you probably wouldn't touch that CB seam. That would cause the vents to invert unless the seat of the jacket is simply way too large for your own. Go to the tailor's tutorials and find the thread on jacket waist suppression. It could be as simple as how you've drawn the green arrow or it could be a little more intense requiring a little skirt reduction at the front through the underseam that is intersected by the pocket.
post #4739 of 70674/14/14 at 5:51amProblems with the armhole, problems with the cross-back, problems with the shape of the sleeve relative to the armhole.Quote:
Very far.
If wide shoulders or padding or structure had anything to do with divots, this guy would have sinkholes big enough to swallow a car collection.post #4740 of 70674/14/14 at 6:33amReturn HomeBack to Forum: Classic Menswear- The Tailors' Thread: Fit Feedback and Alteration Suggestions
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