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HOOKSETT - With the dispute over the contract with the Manchester School District to educate the town's high school students continuing, the Hooksett School Board wants to hear the parental perspective in a round table discussion planned for April 17.
The format for the discussion will see participants moving through a series of group discussions on various possibilities for high school education.
Tables in the Cawley Middle School gym will each be assigned a particular subject, with a volunteer facilitating the conversation.
Attendees will discuss each issue with the facilitator and others at the table, after which they will move on to the next table and a new topic.
There are six subjects in all, which school officials say center on a single basic question.
"We are asking one central question, which is 'What do we want for our community and our high school students?'" said School Board Vice Chair David Pearl. "That's going to be our theme question at all the tables, and we're looking at it through different lenses."
Those six "lenses" include a deliberately broad discussion of education issues in Manchester; consideration of Hooksett setting up its own high school, either through construction or using Manchester West High School, as well as sending high school students elsewhere, through a contract with one high school, such as Pinkerton Academy or by reaching agreements with multiple high schools to educate studetns from Hooksett.
Participants will also be invited to discuss special education, and transportation issues.
The facilitators will take notes on the discussion, and major points raised will be posted on a central discussion board in the cafeteria, allowing participants and school district leaders to have a sense of the conversations at hand.
At the end, attendees will be asked to vote for issues they deem "most important" in each of the general subject categories through placement of colored stickers on the board listing the discussion areas and issues raised.
The high school controversy has been one of the most pressing issues facing the town in recent months.
The Hooksett School Board formally gave notice last December to Manchester that it considers the city district to be in breech of the maintainence agreement with the town.
The vote was largedly based on overcrowded classrooms in Manchester which resulted from funding and staff cuts at the start of the current school year.
Several overtures to Manchester for both informal talks and more formalized discussion aimed at an "amicable and mutual" early release from the contract, have either gone without response or have been declined by the city district.
While debate continues on whether to end the arrangement with Mancheter, some of the fiercest debates in Hooksett not been over whether the district should be on the road toward separation from Manchester, but rather over where that road should take the town.
One purpose of the round table is to informally gauge interest in the opinions, to see where the community envisions itself, what residents think of the options that have been discussed and whether they have new ideas any of their own.
"In the first place, it's to start a discussion in the community about exactly what (the road forward) is. We're really curious to see what ideas come out of that," Pearl said. "And then, to a certain extent, it's to see where the community is ... giving us somewhat of an indication of a community feel."
Pearl said the forum may help foster conversation and awareness of the issues and possibilities facing the district on the question of where children attend high school.
"Another objective is to get people talking to each other about this issue, so that people can start a conversation and be able to talk about some of the different things that are possible." Pearl said.
The Hooksett School Board's high school round table discussion will be held on April 17 at 6:30 in Cawley Middle School's cafe.
Refreshments will be served, provided by the learning center Mathnasium. The Builders Club will be providing childcare.
Volunteers are still being sought. Anyone wishing to contribute to the event may contact the Hooksett School Board at firstname.lastname@example.com.


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LONGMONT -- The Colorado Secretary of State's Office has formally decided to accept the accuracy of Boulder County's 2012 election vote counts, despite the post-election refusal by a majority of Boulder County Canvass Board members to certify those results.
Canvass board members learned of the decision in a Monday afternoon email. On Wednesday morning, Secretary of State Scott Gessler defended his office's action during an appearance at a Boulder County Republican Breakfast meeting here.
Gessler, a Republican, said he and his staff followed a legal standard he said requires him to accept this county's election tallies as long as the issues raised by canvass board members wouldn't change the outcomes of the contests and questions on Boulder County's 2012 general election ballots.
But Republican Russ Boehm, one of the four canvass board members who'd voted in late November against certifying the results, objected during Wednesday's breakfast meeting that he hadn't seen anything in state law or regulations that specifies that the Secretary of State's Office must accept a county's totals if such a state action wouldn't change the election's outcome.
The two Republicans and two American Constitution Party representatives on the canvass board had cited what they said they believed were irregularities in the ways Boulder County processed its ballots, verified mail-ballot signatures, and counted and totaled the votes cast.
The two Boulder County Democratic Party representatives on the panel -- along with County Clerk and Recorder Hillary Hall, who's also a Democrat -- dissented from the board majority's 4-3 decision against certifying the results.
Gessler said that "I understand some of those frustrations" the canvass board majority had expressed. He said, however, that his office ultimately had to accept the non-certified Boulder County vote totals because "the problems identified by the canvass board did not rise to the level where they would affect the outcome of the election."
That "may have been a bit different" if the races on Boulder County voters' ballots "had been a lot closer," he said.
Hall was vacationing and unavailable for comment on Wednesday. But county elections coordinator Molly Tayer said in a telephone interview that the secretary of state's announcement this week confirmed what county officials had told canvass board members in November -- that a board majority's refusal to certify the election wouldn't affect the vote tallies or outcomes.
"We just had to wait this out," Tayer said of the official word from the Secretary of State's Office to that effect.
Boehm said after Wednesday's breakfast meeting, however, that the goal and standard the canvass board majority had used in critiquing Boulder County election results boiled down to this: Whoever loses an election contest should be able to walk away knowing that he or she didn't lose because of any improprieties in processing ballots and tallying the votes cast.
Republican canvass board member Daniel Martin, who also attended the breakfast meeting, said afterward that while the canvass board can't change the outcome of the election, it should be able to change the ballot handling and tallying procedures the majority had questioned.
Deputy secretary of state Suzanne Staiert wrote Boulder County Canvass Board members on Monday that the Colorado Department of State's acceptance of Boulder County's election results "is limited to the vote totals for the purpose of the preparation of the secretary of state's statewide abstract" of election results, and that "the acceptance is not a certification of the Boulder County abstract."
Staiert said in her email that a number of the issues raised by the canvass board majority fell outside the scope of the office's investigation of matters that state law lists as being a canvass board's duties -- duties, Gessler noted Wednesday, that include reconciling the ballots cast to confirm that the number of ballots counted in the election don't exceed the number of ballots cast.
Staiert wrote, however, that the Department of State will continue to work with Boulder County to ensure future compliance with election rules the canvass board majority contended had been violated.
Staiert said the office had been "particularly interested" in a report that six Bolder County precincts showed more ballots counted than cast. But she said those discrepancies appeared to have stemmed from situations like several in which polling-place judges gave voters ballots intended for a neighboring precinct -- discrepancies she said Boulder County "took reasonable steps to correct" before announcing its own final precinct-by-precinct tallies.
The canvass board majority had also questioned Boulder County's use of a Bell and Howell Equipment ballot sorting and signature-verification machine. Staier said a complaint that the machine hadn't been properly certified by the Secretary of State's Office is the subject of a separate complaint the office already is investigating. Boulder election-issues activist Al Kolwicz filed that complaint.
Martin called Staier's letter "a whitewash." Martin said the Secretary of State's Office's decision to accept the Boulder County election division's vote counts "a slap in the face" and "an outrage" after a majority of canvass board members put in what he said had been thousands of collective hours preparing for and conducting the canvass.
Gessler said Boulder County Canvass Board members had "properly identified" some procedures that could be improved -- situations he indicated his staff will discuss with Boulder County Clerk Hall and her staff.
Gessler said that his office will be analyzing any such election-procedures issues raised anywhere in the state and will try to find ways to fix possible problems before they recur in future elections.
Boulder County's Tayer said that the clerk's and secretary of state's staff are "in complete agreement" about examining any reported problems with the 2012 election and seeing whether that offers and lessons for improving future elections.
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NEW YORK (AP) — Republicans in the House of Representatives say they want to sue President Barack Obama.
Without taking sides, I want to say I find this Beltway brawl's latest round to be inspiring. While the TV universe hardly compares to affairs of state, I'm moved to sue a few people myself (or think about it, anyway).
— For starters, is there someone I can sue to get rid of all those commercials for gold? Reverse mortgages? Personal-injury lawyers?
— Maybe I'll sue the couples on HGTV's "Househunters," or the huge percentage of them who demand granite countertops in any kitchen they approve. Isn't there a danger that their clamoring for granite countertops could spark a craze for granite countertops among all "Househunters" fans, with a resulting run on granite and skyrocketing prices? Wouldn't that be followed by granite quarries stripped bare and, with no granite left, granite quarriers thrown out of work, thus losing their granite-countertop-kitchen homes? We must halt such granite mania with a lawsuit that requires house hunters to accept tile, marble or Formica, for every home owner's good.
— Another worthy target of a lawsuit: Stephen Colbert. I might just sue him for abandonment in anticipation of his bolting to CBS next year to host the "Late Show." With that move, he says, he will revert to his own real-life personality and scuttle the "Stephen Colbert" character who for nearly a decade has presided over Comedy Central's "Colbert Report."
That will mean the end of the self-satisfied blowhard whose lamebrain pronouncements, decoded for their ironic intent, have served as some of TV's shrewdest analysis of current events. And for anyone who mistakenly admires him as a kindred spirit of the Fox News Channel ethos that he parodies, it will be nothing less than the loss of a national hero.
— I will be considering a restraining order against NBC's Brian Williams, requiring him to stay at least 50 feet from any telecast that isn't news. Doesn't it seem like Williams is forever popping up on talk shows, TV tributes or anywhere else a lens is focused? He makes TV appearances even without meaning to. Like in June on "The Tonight Show," when Jimmy Fallon premiered the latest mash-up of the NBC News anchor, this time rapping Sir Mix-a-Lot's "Baby Got Back."
In July, Williams was a guest on NBC's "Late Night with Seth Meyers." He's a frequent guest on David Letterman's "Late Show" (or at least he made an appearance, not his first, in January). And everybody knows how often he drops in on Comedy Central's "Daily Show With Jon Stewart." (Actually, I don't know how often, but I feel like it's lots.) Shouldn't Williams be spending more time with his family? And I don't mean volunteering to play one of the pirates during daughter Allison's star turn in "Peter Pan." I'm concerned he might suffer from overexposure!
— Quite the opposite is the case for the targets of another of my possible lawsuits: the purveyors of such shows as Discovery's "Naked and Afraid," VH1's "Dating Naked" and TLC's "Buying Naked." Shouldn't they be cited for indecent (TV) exposure?
This bare-bones approach to programming seems likely to denude the TV landscape. What's next: "Naked Meet the Press"? "Naked Iron Chef"? "Naked Ice Road Truckers"? "Naked Biggest Loser"? Left unchecked, such a sight could drive viewers to seek refuge in radio.
Hmmm. Who in radio could I possibly sue?
EDITOR'S NOTE — Frazier Moore is a national television columnist for The Associated Press. He can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.com and at http://www.twitter.com/tvfrazier. Past stories are available at http://bigstory.ap.org/content/frazier-moore


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A blessing for sure.
As the Toledo Blade reports, when Karl Kissner and his cousins were clearing out his grandfather's home in Defiance, Ohio, on Feb. 29 they came across a box of very rare and very valuable baseball cards.
According to the Blade, "experts say the trove of about 700 nearly mint cards just might represent the greatest and rarest discovery in the sports card industry's history. The best of the collection is expected to fetch more than $500,000 at the National Sports Collectors Convention next month in Baltimore while the entire stock could bring in $3 million."
Heritage Auctions, which is handling the sale of the cards, calls this the "Black Swamp Find" because of the "damp landscape on the edge of Defiance." The best cards in the cache, the Blade says, "are part of a rare 30-player set distributed with caramel candy in 1910. Only 635 of the undersized rectangular cards from the E98 series were known to exist."
According to the family, granddad (Carl Hench) ran a meat market southwest of Toledo and apparently collected the cards that came with the candies. "We guess he stuck them in the attic and forgot about them," Kissner told The Associated Press. Hench dies in the 1940s, AP adds.
The set in Defiance had been "frozen in time beneath a wooden doll house and a century's worth of dust," the Blade adds.
Heritage says the players represented include greats such as "Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Chief Bender, Christy Mathewson, Connie Mack, Frank Chance, Hughie Jennings, Johnny Evers, Roger Bresnahan [and] Cy Young."
The AP reports that the family is "evenly dividing the cards and the money" among 20 cousins" named in the will of an aunt who lived in the house until her death last October.
This week, good fortune has once again come to Defiance, Ohio. The first time was in the 1950s. You might remember that first case from a 2005 movie called "The Prizewinner of Defiance, Ohio."
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KARL KISSNER: We did not have any clue what we had really found.
SIEGEL: This is from an interview he gave to the Defiance Crescent News, the local paper. What they found were cards smaller than the usual kind, but among them three of baseball's old-time greats: Ty Cobb, Cy Young and Honus Wagner.
KISSNER: So, our decision was they're either worth nothing or they're seriously worth something.
BLOCK: So they took them to experts and two weeks later they learned that what they'd found may be one of the biggest discoveries in the world of sports card collecting. What they had is a rare 1910 set of baseball cards in nearly pristine condition.
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KISSNER: It's just neat.
SIEGEL: Neat, indeed. A Defiance, Ohio family hits a jackpot worth nearly $3 million. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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Now, you've been told that what you want in an autographed book is an autograph. Just a name. No inscription, no date, no "Best Wishes". Just the signature. I, as I think I have mentioned, feel this is baloney of a rich and creamy kind. I like a little bit more for my money. I know the author can spell her name; what else did she have to say? Still, if I have mentioned this twice, that is two more times than there are people who are interested in my opinion on the matter, so let's move on.
The exception to this rule is the association copy. An association copy is a book with a name or message written in it which is significant to the text or history of the book. If you have a copy of the 1855 edition of Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass, you have a valuable book. If you have a copy of that book signed by Walt Whitman, you have a really valuable signed book. If you have the copy Walt Whitman sent to Abraham Lincoln (about whom he later wrote "O Captain! My Captain!"), you have an association copy that will have collectors beating a path to your door. (If you have the copy which Bill Clinton gave to Monica Lewinsky, you have an association copy, too. The author doesn't have to be involved in the story to make the book an association copy.)
Now, the Newberry Library has a number of books which once belonged to Thomas Jefferson. Any book Tom wrote his name in is worth a little something. (He had his own personal way of marking ownership, too, using his initials. But it involves slightly advanced information on how books are put together, and we can save that for another time.) The Newberry also owns his copy of the account of the Lewis & Clark Expedition, with his notes in the margins (and a note or two from William Clark). This is an association copy deluxe.
I may have mentioned a copy of the first illustrated edition of The Autocrat of the Breakfast Table, which came to me with all the pictures torn out. Oliver Wendell Holmes didn't especially like the pictures, so when he gave a friend a copy of this edition of his most famous book, he got rid of the illustrations first. The copy we found was inscribed by Holmes (whose autograph isn't a college-funder) to Richard Henry Dana, Jr., "my old friend and classmate". Dana, the author of Two Years Before the Mast, makes this not just an inscribed copy but an association copy: the author of one great unread book to the author of another. It's in the library's collection now.
Possibly the most unusual association copy is an unautographed CD-Rom I have sitting around. This once belonged to Theodore W. Schultz, winner of the 1979 Nobel Prize for Economics. The CD-Rom was put together as a database on the life of every Nobel Prize winner, and it is now a dozen or more years out of date. T.W. Schultz has not written his name in it and it is, alas, not addressed to him. So what makes it more valuable than any other CD-Rom of Nobel prize data? Well, it was sent to him for proofreading, so he could make sure the data on his life was accurate. And still enclosed in the case is the letter saying so, beginning "Dear Nobel laureate". This marks the CD-Rom as one of a very small number sent to members of a very select group.
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Kcrady......your assumption that you say christians agree with only seems correct to logical non-delusional people. You greatly underestimate the delusion of the many christians I know here in Houston..... 95% of them would vigorously deny and argue your assumptions based on faith and inerrancy of the bible. Strange, but sadly true I'm afraid! I suspect it is the same through most of the USA.
>snip<It is really easy to see the difference between good and evil. It is not difficult to see how cheating on your partner or passing a disease to another person is bad. Similarly it is not difficult to see how abusing a child sexually is bad.
One) Why did every Class, (Kingdom, Phylum, Class) come into being within a mere 100,000 years? Over the, what is it now, 6 1/2 billion years of Earth's existance, that is less than a tick of the clock.
Two) I am awed by the fact that the more I study life from a biochemical level to a microscopic level to a macroscopic level to an ecosystem level, the more patterns and consistancies I see. Why, if there is no God to guide evolution is their so little truly original life. I know about the sulpher based bacteria, but they are a dead end. Their are even a few silicon based bases unicellular life forms at the bottom of some of the deep sea trenches. But why is there so much commonality if all is random? All life with the exceptions of those two very minor dead ends utilize ATP and the citric acid cycle. There are many, many more examples of the line of life going back to a single unicellular organism developing the ability to go unicellular. It is far easier to believe in a "God-touched" organism than, given the lack of parallel evolution, completely random evolution.
Three) Hominids, man-like humanoids have existed for a long time, it keeps getting longer, I'm a simple landscaper, not and anthropologist. It may be 4-5 million years by now. The point is that man only began living in cities 6-10,000 years ago. Why? Could it be that God touched a man, "Adam" and imparted a soul to a hominid? Is that why city building spread so quickly? Or is it more likely that all over the world in an evolutionary line stretching back for several million years, city building, ( the capacity to live together in groups larger than 40-50 suddenly spring up all over the world in such disparate places as the Yellow River, the Nile, and the Mesopotamian Valley?
If God started healing amputees, tons of people would start running towards Christianity just to get healed, and not for the love of God.
kcrady, you may not believe that the ethics of the world has changed significantly in 3,000 years, but it has.
Trying to reason with a two year old requires different methods than reasoning with a twenty year old. I spank my two year.
It is the only logic he understands.
People a thousand years later, the Greeks, still considered mercy to be a major weakness. Was God harsh? Yes! Was He harsh enough to ensure that the Israelites would worship no other gods? No. At least, not until the Babylonians removed almost all the Jews from Palastine and only allowed them to return 70 years later. After that, the Jews never have, in mass, worshipped other gods. It really helps when studying ancient history to keep in mind that our cultures have become far more gentle.
Satan is the personification of false pride. That is all. Only intense, irrational, false pride (or faith explains his actions. It does not, of course, explain why a perfect God would create such a being except to use as a scapegoat...but then why would be need a scapegoat? And so on.
n8sense:What would the atheists here do if someone produced overwhelming, unquestionable proof that the whole question of Jesus and his plan of salvation/religion/whatever was really true - the whole thing really isn't a myth? How would your life change? What would you do differently?
Question. Is it rational to oppose that which does not exist?
AHH!! I'm addicted to talking on here already. I have to go to work!!! However, I will respond very quickly and come back later and fill in my blanks. Life has meaning to God. People have meaning to God.
My main problem with discussing [Christmas] with [people that don't believe in Santa Claus] is that their one defining statement is "I don't believe." There is nothing to back this statement, nor is there anything else that is common in belief among [people who don't believe in Santa] other then trying to bag out [people who believe in Santa] (and [people who believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy]).
They often claim that science is their friend, even though science is a methodology, and has no stand on ethics, philosophy or the supernatural, and is about as able to prove there isn't a god as a horseshoe is able to find a cure for cancer.
You all have a point, but what most of you have failed to mention is that the Civil War era (and the Inquisition and Crusades) was a dark time for humanity. We are much more enlightened now and that carries over to our society. The fact is that Christianity was abused to justify slavery. It is not the nature of Christianity to condone slavery, it is in the nature of men to pervert anything that could that could bring about personal benefit for themselves, religion included. This is a very interesting topic since the Azusa Street Revival Centennial celebration is coming up. My church (Assemblies of God) is having a combined service with a Church of God in Christ this Sunday. This will help to break down the racial barrier seen in America's churches. My conclusion about all of this is that: Perverted Civil War era 'Christianity' does not equal mainstream Christianity of today.
I was thinking about something and it really hit me. What is God? I was always told that God created everthing. It never really quite made any sense to me though. Here is thought, but is it possible that our universe can be seen as a God? Not a God, that judges, just one that was able to make us exist. Christians don't really give our universe any credit. They say that, "God created the heavens and the earth." They will tell you that God created everthing. What if our universe is like a God and created everthing. I know that I may sound like a broken record to some people here, but hear me out.We exist because our universe exist. When we die, we get recycled back into the universe. Our universe is a mystery itself. Why complicate it more by saying that some ficticious character created the universe? Figuring out our universe, which is real, has more meaning to me than God and Jesus.
Here's an idea that many academics may find unsettling and dangerous: God exists. And here's another idea that many religious people may find unsettling and dangerous: God is not supernatural, but rather part of the natural order. Simply stating these ideas in the same breath invites them to scrape against each other, and sparks begin to fly. To avoid such conflict, Stephen Jay Gould famously argued that we should separate religion and science, treating them as distinct "magisteria." But science leads many of us to try to understand all that we encounter with a single, grand and glorious overarching framework. In this spirit, let me try to suggest one way in which the idea of a "supreme being" can fit into a scientific worldview. I offer the following not to advocate the ideas, but rather simply to illustrate one (certainly not the only) way that the concept of God can be approached scientifically.1.0. First, here's the specific conception of God I want to explore: God is a "supreme being" that transcends space and time, permeates our world but also stands outside of it, and can intervene in our daily lives (partly in response to prayer).
this ain't gonna be pretty but THE BIBLE
At that time Herod the tetrarch heard of the fame of Jesus, and said unto his servants, This is John the Baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him. --Matthew 14:1-2
And king Herod heard [of him]; (for his name was spread abroad:) and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him. Others said, That it is Elias. And others said, That it is a prophet, or as one of the prophets. But when Herod heard [thereof], he said, It is John, whom I beheaded: he is risen from the dead. --Mark 6:14-16
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. --Matthew 16:13-14
And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his disciples were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am? They answering said, John the Baptist; but some [say], Elias; and others [say], that one of the old prophets is risen again. --Luke 9:18-19
QuoteWhy did god give me free will if he is going to punish me for freely choosing not to believe in him?As a theist, I'd like to give a different answer to the others on offer here .....Free will or autonomous life is an amazing gift. God could have made nothing, or robots or whatever, but he made humans and gave us the ability to choose, including choosing not to believe in him as many on this forum do. Yes, there is responsibility that inevitably goes with freedom, and that means ultimately justice will be done.
Why did god give me free will if he is going to punish me for freely choosing not to believe in him?
Another common misunderstanding by christians and atheists alike (I believe).Jesus used the word "destroy", meaning an end to life (Matthew 10:28). The term often translated "everlasting" (e.g. in Matthew chapter 25) is more correctly translated "eternal", which is not the same thing. Eternal translates the Greek word "aionios", which to a Jew of Jesus's day meant the age to come (in contrast to this present age). Several words translated "hell" have various meanings, including the place or state of the dead, and a rubbish tip outside Jerusalem. Certainly not the hell of popular imagination and Gary Larson cartoons!
Put it all together and you get the following - there will be a judgment or reckoning and life will end for those who fail it (by not asking for forgiveness). In one sense they get what they want, no God and no life. So it's still a sobering and awful teaching, but not nearly what is often imagined, and certainly not everlasting torment. BTW, I didn't come to this view just because it is preferable, but from a scholar and checking out the Greek for myself. Hope that helps at least understand what "the other side" believes, so at least your disbelief can be better based.
To answer this I would say that if someone can prove that a god has revealed themself to us, objectively, then that god exists. True? Secondly, if this being claimed to be a god, and then went on to prove this by doing something impossible (for a human), this would suffice as a proof that the god exists. True?Case in point:Death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.Can it be shown that this event did not happen? Yes (disprovable). Would anyone like to have a go at this? Proving that god does or doesn't exist from an objective position? Is jesus just a man, a god, or doesn't he exist?What is your answer, and what is your proof?
Quote from: generousgeorgeBut I'm not talking about just the 10 ....I'm talking about all the guidance and 1,000s of contradictary commands God makes in the bible....you want to draw our attention only to the 10 commandments for the covenience of your argument.Those are the specific ones brought down, the rest ? Where did they come from? Hearsay. God told me? Yeah right, well God talks to me too and He didn't tell me that. I think you heard Him wrong.
But I'm not talking about just the 10 ....I'm talking about all the guidance and 1,000s of contradictary commands God makes in the bible....you want to draw our attention only to the 10 commandments for the covenience of your argument.


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Stan Musial passed away this week, and with his passing is the loss of the most beloved St. Louis Cardinal of all.
Stan played 22 years for the Cardinals and set many records. He became the all-time hit leader for the National League in 1962 when he passed Honus Wagner. He hit five home runs in a doubleheader that still stands although tied by St. Louis native Nate Colbert in 1972. He won seven NL batting titles, played on three World Series championship teams and was National League MVP three times. Musial trailed only Ty Cobb in hits at his retirement even though he lost a year of playing time serving in the military during World War II.
Stan holds several All-Star game records, including most home runs, hitting six of them. He played in 24 games as an All Star, which is tied with Willie Mays.
"Stan the Man" was a model of consistency and durability, having 1,815 hits at home and 1,815 hits on the road. He also played in 895 consecutive games, which was a National League record at that time. He also was the first man to play over 1,000 games at two different positions the outfield and first base. Musial hit 475 home runs, which is an enormous amount for a player who won seven batting titles.
Stan was general manager for the Cardinals in 1967, the year they won the World Series. He was never thrown out of a game during his career and was also an accomplished harmonica player. When I think of athletes who wore number 6, Stan Musial always comes to mind first.


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A former Colorado wilderness ranger and member of the ski patrol at Durango Mountain Resort still loves the Rocky Mountains, but he's in an affair with the Himalayas, specifically Nepal.
On his first trip to Nepal in 1996, Jim Sumrall was smitten. Now he leads tours there, with a special one coming up in April when he makes a 12-day trek to the high country to familiarize inner-city youngsters from Kathmandu (elevation 4,500 feet) with a facet of their country they don't know.
The orphaned or abandoned teenagers have spent their lives in the confines of a metropolitan area of 2.5 million inhabitants, Sumrall said in a recent interview in Durango, which is now his home. Fresh air, clean water and colorful vegetation aren't an everyday experience for them, he said.
Sumrall learned through Nepali contacts of the Mitrata ("friendship" in Nepali) Children's Home in Kathmandu. It's operated by Nanda, a 55-year-old woman whose curriculum vitae reads like those of her young charges.
Nanda went to work at age 12 with no schooling. By dint of hard work, she learned English and, after marrying, opened shops that sold traditional stringed instruments and drums. The income allowed her to take in her first orphan in 1995.
Eighteen months after he and his wife, Karen, visited Nepal in March 1996 on a Sierra Club tour, Sumrall returned with the club as a trainee guide. Then he spent a year on the logistics of establishing his own tour, which occurred in March 1999.
The pace picked up considerably. Sumrall, then an operations manager for Intel Corp., got a three-month leave during which time he led a Sierra Club trip and then a private tour, which included his children, to the Himalayas.
"It was when I came back from this extended trip and dealt with a brush with cancer that I decided that it was time to slow down, redirect my energy and focus on living rather than career, advancement, achievement and the material things in life," Sumrall said. "I retired early, and we moved to Durango in the spring of 2001."
Sumrall led treks annually to Nepal for the next five years. In 2007, he joined a project to raise funds for a Nepal charity, one of the beneficiaries of which was the Mitrata Children's Home. Later in 2007, he visited the home at the end of a trek.
Through the years, Sumrall's involvement with Mitrata deepened – educational sponsorships for Mitrata children, personal monetary donations, a fundraiser at the Himalayan Kitchen in Durango and a fund appeal on Facebook.
Sumrall donates through the Worldwide Education Partnerships for Nepal, which was founded by a client on his 2008 trek.
A crisis occurred in 2011 when a major funding source pulled its contribution, forcing Nanda to send older children to boarding homes. The number of residents at Mitrata dropped from 70 to 24.
Durangoan Mark Ward, a landscaper in the summer and a member of the DMR ski patrol in the winter, accompanied Sumrall to Nepal in 2008.
"It was phenomenal, a dream," Ward said. "The country is tranquil like The Needles and the people are poor but happy with what they have.
"On our last night in Kathmandu, we had dinner at the orphanage, and I got to talk with the children," Ward said. "Any contribution would make a difference. It would be money well spent."
The Mitrata annual budget runs about $60,000, Sumrall said.
"When I came back from my April 2012 trek, I decided to embark on a new career – professional volunteer fundraiser," Sumrall said. "On my trip next month, I could use some hardy souls to help and monetary donations, of course."


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Painting, as the famous Pablo Picasso sound bite goes, is another way of keeping a diary. However, making that "diary" legible, he might well have added, all comes down to how art is hung throughout a home.
Placing a picture in too tight a space, experts explain, may mean you are not able to "read" its incredible horizon, for example. Arranging a group of pictures frenetically might leave your eye unable to focus.
So before you put anything on the walls, it's worth remembering that the very act of collecting art is your way of presenting your own journey, your own diary, according to Evelyn Sum of Farmboy Fine Arts, a Gastown-based consultancy that furnishes myriad hotels and establishments with art worldwide.
"What is really interesting about art," the art director says, "is the story behind it: Where the concept for the piece originated and if that story resonates with you and touches you in some way. The important thing is, this is about your story, things that you have collected over the years or things you have encountered in your experiences or travels."
Which is why she is not keen on a linear collection of pictures. Mixing things to reflect that journey, she suggests, adds character. "I would never group all black and whites or all colour together," she continues. "Personally, I like it as random as possible. Definitely mix two mediums – such as photography with original paintings – with everything evenly spaced out between them."
For Jennifer Kostuik, who runs her eponymous gallery in Yaletown, one way to frame such a grouping is to cut brown paper to the same size as your artwork, then stick the paper to the wall temporarily so you can move it around until it looks good. When you're ready to hang the piece and you've "created an outside square or rectangle and filled inside with the work, then that's where you will put it," she adds.
A handy guide could be the length of the sofa or bed, if the feature wall is behind it. "I like to frame it out to align with the furnishings," says Sum. "Start with a main piece of art that's colourful or perhaps bigger than the others, and place it above the centre of the piece of furniture. Then box the smaller pieces around it so that the whole gallery lines up with the widest part of the furniture. I don't ever like to go beyond it."
Sum's most recent take on this popular grouping method is on display in two of the suites at the newly restored Rosewood Hotel Georgia, which worked with Farmboy Fine Arts to launch the sizable collection peppered throughout the establishment. (Mainly Canadian art, it notably features Jack Shadbolt, Douglas Coupland and Rodney Graham, but also Britain's Damien Hirst.) Her salon-style arrangements of archival prints of the city (some by photographer Fred Herzog) and small oil paintings of Emily Carr University alumna Kathy Zhang flow up the Rosewood and Lord Stanley staircases. The art director warns, however, that working in these area is tricky. "The sightline of the pictures is so close so you don't want anything that is too big generally or that's a large figurative piece," she continues. "If it's abstract, it might not really matter, but if it's photography, you want it to be small scale."
Beyond groupings, the main art piece can be the most exciting to hang, Kostuik suggests. A painting with a single point of perspective might be best positioned in a spot where you want to open up the space of a room or provide a centre or a focal point. "Above a fireplace, the centre of a dining area or end of a hallway all work well because these are the types of works you can see from far away and they will lead you into the room and help to centre the space," she adds. "Large pieces can really set the mood of the room." Similar to her take on groupings, Sum thinks works hung above fireplaces should not go beyond the mantel. "And I wouldn't want it to necessarily be the same shape as the fireplace – I like to try linear, small pieces that might form a triptych or a quad," she muses.
Two general rules apply. Firstly, it is worth using two D rings to hang the frame, says Kostuik, whose career representing artists from the U.S., Japan, Europe and across Canada has spanned two decades. "Hanging things on wire means it's likely to move, and sometimes it will even snap because the picture is too heavy," she adds.
Both experts also point out the universal figure of 55 inches from the ground to the centre of the perspective. "But, of course, some people are tall, some are short – so mostly when I hang art I hang it a little low," suggests Kostuik. "If you hang it too high it becomes too monumental – this thing that you are looking up at. It ruins the horizon-lines feeling too." (If the picture is flat – or without a perspective – "then you can hang it wherever because there is no horizon line," she points out.)
Obviously, much common sense applies. "If an art piece is 10 feet you won't necessarily have the centre of the art piece a neat 55 inches at the centre," says Sum, who thinks leaning pieces against walls can be "kind of interesting." (Depending on your wall, naturally occurring wood veneers and mouldings may be utilized "as extra framing," Sum adds.)
Hanging art, of course, can be as personal as the art itself. "Sometimes it all depends on what you want to say about yourself and your art," she says. "It's what is comfortable to you." And rules can be happily broken in Kostuik's world, too. "If you have lots of art and absolutely no more space to hang it," she laughs, "then you should just put it up wherever."
For further inspiration, visit the Jennifer Kostuik Gallery, 1070 Homer Street (604-737 3969) and the Rosewood Hotel Georgia (801 West Georgia Street, 604-682 5566), which has a self-guided art tour. (Collect maps of the artworks from the concierge.) Farmboy Fine Arts can be reached via farmboyfinearts.com.
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