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Immediate Family
About Hendrick Hendricksen Kipp
Name written Kype previously.
Came to New Amsterdam before 1643 with his wife (probably Tryntje Droogh) and five children. That he was a man of consequence is shown by the fact his arms were painted on one of the stained glass windows in the first Dutch church of New York. He was a tailor by occupation and is sometimes called Henry Snyder Kip. He received a patent, 28 April 1643, of a lot east of the fort on the present Bridge Street near Whitehall, where he built a house and shop. Being incensed by the cruelty of Director General Kieft, by whose order more than one hundred Indians, men, women and children were brutally massacred, he boldly opposed the Director General and refused to join in any recognition of him. The latter was very shortly recalled and immediately thereafter Kip became a leading man in the community.
He was appointed a member of Governor Stuyvesant's council, Sept 25, 1647 and again in 1649-50. He was appointed schepen, or magistrate, Feb 2, 1656 and admitted to all rights and privileges of a burgher, April 11, 1657. He subscribed to the oath of allegiance to the British government, October 1664, and was assessed with others in the following year to pay for maintenance of soldiers in the garrison. Both he and his wife were members of the Dutch church. He died at Kippenburg, the date unrecorded and the location unknown. Children: Baertje, Isaac, Jacob, Tryntje, Hendrick, Femmetje, baptised 19 Apr 1643 in New Amsterdam.(p.1131-32)
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Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip (Kype), probable son of Hendrick, is the ancestor of the Kip family in America. The records of his marriage and baptism of his children, in Amsterdam, translated in to English, are as follows: "Heyndrik Heyndrixsz, 20 April 1624." as "Appeared before (before the commissaries of marriage) Heyndrik Heyndrixsz of Niewenhuys (born there), tailor, 24 years of age, assisted by his brother-in-law, Blomert Sandart, living 9 years in Servetsteech (alley), and Tryntie Lubberts of Swoll, 25 years of age, orphan, living from her youth in Angelierstraat (street), assisted by her cousin, Annetie Heyndriz. Requesting their three Sunday proclamations (banns) to let them solemnize their marriage, if there are no obstacles. And after having declared, according to the truth that they were free persons (bachelor and spinster) and not related by blood, which would prevent a Christian marriage, their proclamations are allowed. (Signed) Heyndrick Heyndricksen. (Signed) Trincke Lubbers.
(Specific spelling forms hadn't yet been adopted.)
( t's been written that Hendrick had been married three times; to Tryntje Lubberts (1624); to Tryntje Droogle second, and third to Margaret Marneil. The truth of the matter is , undoubtedly, that Margaret was the wife of his father, and that the Tryntjes were one and the same person. The lack of surnames in Holland made it possible for a person to be known by various surnames. We read that in 1647, Jacob Kip (son of Hendrick Hendrickson), gave his uncle, Harmon Droogh, a power of attorney to receive money due to him from the West India company. This would make it appear that Harmon Droogh (not Droogle, as above) was a brother of Tryntje Lubbers, or Droogh.) The English equivalent for the Dutch word "Kip" is Hen, or Chicken. This was perhaps accounted for from the fact that a game cock was once used on the crests that surmounted the arms of the first of the family of (text not complete for the next two paragraphs) though it seems to say that in this generation the spelling of the family name seems to have been fixed. In the previous two hundred years it had been ?? Kippenburg and Kip. On first coming to this country it was [being?] so signed by Henry Kype to public documents, anno 1643. (Callaghan's History).
• with 92 others, co-signed the Remonstrance that convinced Stuyvesant to surrender New Netherland to the British in 1664.
See Royal Charter granted by Governor ?? anno 1686, and that of Governor Montgomery 1730, where members of the family are mentioned as Officers under the Crown and where the name is Anglicized to Kip, which fixed the spelling. Some writers have confused the two Hendrick Kips, calling the American immigrant a son of Ruloff De Kype. According to Dutch nomenclature, if such were the fact, his name would have been Hendrick Roeloffszen. The immigrant was named Hendrick Hendrickszen, which means, "the son of Hendrick". Those writers have left out one generation. History shows the birth of one Hendrick in 1576, and the next one in 1600. Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip came to New Amsterdam prior to 1643, with his wife Tryntje (anglicized Catherine) and his children, six in number, if all who were born in Holland were alive. Another child, Femmetje, was born in New Amsterdam, as the father's name appeared at her baptism, 19 April 1643, as Mr. Hendrick Hendricksz. He was perhaps of noble lineage, as it is related that the arms of the family were painted on the stained-glass windows of the first church erected in New Amsterdam. They were also carved in stone over the door of the Kip's Bay house, built in 1655 by Jacob Kip. The Kip family is one of the oldest in New York, and as it was among the earliest, so it was likewise one of the most respectable in New Amsterdam. After the lapse of two hundred and forty years, but little change has occurred in the spelling of the name, the chief and only one which we are aware of being the addition of another "p", by a limited number of some of the different branches of the family. Washington Irving, in his parody of history, "Knickerbocker's History of New York", Book 2, Chapter 4, uses Hendrick Kip as the subject for a humorous episode. While the voyagers were looking around them on what they conceived to be a serene and sunny lake, they beheld at a distance a crew of painted savages busily employed in fishing, who seemed more like the genii of this romantic region, their slender canoe lightly balanced like a feather on the undulating surface of the bay. At sight of these the hearts of the heroes of Communipaw were not a little troubled. But as good fortune would have it, at the bow of the commodore's boat was stationed a very valiant man, named Hendrick Kip (which being interpreted means "chicken", a name given him in token of his courage.) No sooner did he behold these heathen varlets than he trembled with excessive valor, and although a good half mile distant he seized a musketoon that lay at hand, and turning away his head, fired it most intrepidly in the face of the blessed sun. The blundering weapon recoiled and gave the valiant Kip an ignominious kick, that laid him prostrate with uplifted heels in the bottom of the boat. Such was the effect of this tremendous fire that the wild men of the woods, struck with consternation, seized hastily upon their paddles and shot away into one of the deep inlets of the Long Island shore. This signal victory gave new spirits to the hardy, and in honor of the achievement they gave the name of the valiant Kip to the surrounding bay, and it has continued to be called Kip's Bay from that time to the present." Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip was a tailor, his name appearing sometimes in the record simply as Hendrick the tailor, and again as Hendrick Snyder (tailor) Kip. On the 28th of April 1643 he obtained a patent for a lot east of the fort, in the present Bridge Street near Whitehall, where he erected his dwelling house and shop. He was a man of strong character and fearless disposition and was fitfully described by Stedman in his poem on "The Nine Men of New Amsterdam" as "Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip". The indiscriminate massacre of one hundred and ten defenseless Indians, men, women and children at Corlaer's Hook and Pavonia, on the night of 25 February 1643, instigated and ordered by Director - General Kieft, aroused in the breast of Hendrick Kip a feeling of extreme hatred for that official and he boldly urged that he should be deposed and sent back to Holland. On 6 May 1643, Samuel Chandler made the affidavit that he heard Hendrick the tailor say: "he Kivit (meaning "pee-wit" or "lapwing", a play upon Kieft's name and character) ought to be packed off to Holland in the "Peacock", with a letter of recommendation to Master Gerrit (the public executioner), and a pound, Flemish, so that he may give him a nobleman's death. (In those days, noblemen were beheaded and the commoners hung.) However, Kieft was drowned on his way to Holland, and escaped both those deaths. On 30 August 1645 the Court Messenger was ordered to notify the inhabitants to assemble in the fort when the colors are hoisted and the bell rung, to hear the proposals of a treaty of peace about to be concluded with the Indians. The Messenger reported that all the citizens of Manhattan "from the highest to the lowest" would attend, as they all had answered kindly, except one Hendrick Kip, the tailor. While the entire community were willing to show some respect for Kieft on this public occasion, the sturdy old burgher alone exhibited contempt for the "man of blood", and refused to do him honor. (He is spoken of as "old burgher", but he was only 45 years of age.) The new Governor, Stuyvesant, arrived in May 1647. More sensible that Kieft, he called for an election to the "Tribunal of Well-born Men", usually nine in number. Kip was chosen in the years 1647, 1649, and 1650. A good deal of trouble arose between Stuyvesant and the Nine Men, and a remonstrance from the people, signed by a committee of eleven of the leading citizens, including Kip, was sent to the Hague (in Holland). In 1653 New Amsterdam was incorporated as a city. Hendrick Kip was appointed a Schepen (alderman), 2 February 1656, and 11 April 1657, he was admitted to the rights of a Great Burgher. About twenty families formed the Great Citizenship, &c. These twenty families comprised the aristocracy of New York, then having a population of about 800 souls. Records show that Hendrick Kip took an active part in the government under the Dutch rule, and after the surrender to the English, he took the oath of allegiance in October 1664. The name of Hendrick Kip, Sr., appears in the list of citizens who were assessed 19 April 1665 to pay the board and lodging of soldiers belonging to the city garrison. This is the last mention found of him. The names of Hendrick and Tryntje Kip are recorded in the list of the Dutch Church of New Amsterdam. Opposite his name, Domine Setyne has written "obyt (died) op Kippenburg", but the date is not given. (Kippenburg was the name of Jacob Kip's farm at Kip's Bay, and Hendrick lived there. In his will he says "residing at the house of his son, Mr. Jacob Kip, at Kipsbury." Concerning his wife, the following is taken from the Court proceedings at New Amsterdam, 29 September 1644: "William de Key vs. Hendrick Kip; action for slander; ordered that the defendant's wife appear next Thursday and acknowledge in court, that what she said to the prejudice of the plaintiff is false, and not to repeat the offense on pain of severe punishment." She probably acknowledged her fault, whatever it may have been , as ordered by the court, as we find no further account of the matter. On 17 December 1646 the "Schout - Fiscal" charged her before the court with calling the Director (Kieft) and Council, false judges and the Fiscal a foresworn Fiscal. Hendrick Kip states that his wife has been so upset and so out of health ever since Maryn Adriaensen's attempt to murder the Director General (21 March 1643), that when disturbed in the least she knows not what she does. Mrs. Kip denied the charge and the parties are ordered to produce evidence on both sides. What further proceedings, if any, in the case were taken, the records fail to disclose. She and her husband were sponsors, July 1657, at the baptism of Anthony, son of Jan Jansen St. Obyn, which is the last notice of her, where her identity can be clearly established. WILL OF HENDRICK (HENDRICKSZEN) KIP. In the name of the Lord, Amen. Know all those who shall see this present public instrument that (in the year) 1654 after the birth of our Lord and Saviou Jesus Christ, on the 2nd of February, before me, Willem Bogardus, notary public, residing in New York, admitted by teh Right Honorable Thomas Dongan, Governor General on the part of his Royal Highness James, Duke of York and Albany, etc., of New York and the dependencies thereof in America, in the presence of the witnesseth hereinafter named, came and appeared in his own person, the worthy Mr. Hendrick Kip, residing at the house of his son, Mr. Jacob Kip, at Kipsberry, being in full possession of his mind and faculties, who considering the frailty and mortality of man, the certainty of death and the uncertain hour thereof, and wishing to forestall the said uncertain hour thereof by testamentary disposition, has therefore made his last will and testament and disposed in the manner hereinafter written. Commanding first of all his immortal soul to the merciful hands of God Almighty, and his dead body to the earth and a Christian burial, and in the second place revoking, canceling and making null and void all previous testaments and other instruments of last will hereto fore made or executed (by him) in any way, and now disposing anew, the testator declares that for good reasons and purposes him thereunto moving, he leaves and bequeathes in advance, as a pre-legacy and before any division is made, to his son Jacob Kip all his clothes, woolens and linen, without exception, which shall have served and belonged to his body; also all his paintings, large and small, none of them reserved; also all the printed books, a large and small extension table, all the chairs and chair cushions; also a mug rack with all the mugs, large and small, a lantern, a mirror, a pewter beaker, a pewter chamber pot, two pairs of spectacles, a pewter tankard, and a small silver mug. Likewise to his daughter Tryntie Kips, married to Abraham Jans, the clothes press, a small cupboard, the bed now used by the testator, two pillows, a bolster, two old white blankets and green curtains. Also to Catherine Kips, daughter of his son Jacob, a silver spoon, which the testator uses daily. Furthermore, to his three children all the remaining furniture and household effects, to wit, to each a like and equal share. And as to the other and remaining assets and credits, of whatever nature they be or wherever the same may be situated, none excepted the testator appoints and institutes as his sole and universal heirs his three children, namely, Baertie, Jacob and Tryntie, together with the children of his deceased son Isaac, representing one share, and the children of his deceased son Hendrick, also representing one share, in order that all the aforesaid property may be divided and partitioned into five equal and corresponding shares, both by the daughters and [sons imm]ediately after the death of the testator, without the eldest son or [daughter?]s having the right or claim or to enjoy any prerogative or privilege ?? in the matter; with the understanding that the child or children [that] are of legal age or married are to receive their portion, but that the portion of the minor child or children is to remain under the control of their already appointed or chosen guardians, to be employed [and sup]plied to their utmost benefit, and the portion or inheritance [that?] his daughter Baertie is to inherit from him shall be received [and?] disposed of by her, or her child or children, and by no one else, [the s]aid testator wishing and ordaining that the portions which the children of his son Isaacq, deceased, and his son Hendrick Kip, deceased [are to?] inherit from him shall be paid and satisfied to them or their [guardi?]ans by his son Jacob Kip out of the moneys of the house purchase[d by] him, and that the portion of his daughter Baertie shall be paid [by Abra?]ham Jans out of the moneys of the house sold to him. Furthermore, it is the testator's will and express desire, inasmuch as he sold [hou]se and lot to his son Jacob for the sum of six thousand guilders ( equal to $2400), that now this is to be and that he shall have to [{possibly?} add to] it no more than the sum of five thousand guilders, and no more, [??] this for good reasons him thereunto moving. Further it is the testator's express will and desire that his son Jacob Kip is to have absolute charge of all arrangements to have the testator decently buried, the expense of which must be defrayed first [??] of the moneys and ready cash which the testator has in the [custodianship] of Abraham Jans, and whatever is lacking must be paid out of the purchase money of the houses or out of the rent thereof, without any [??] of it falling on the shoulders of his son Jacob Kip, or any [???]ant being presented to him therefor on account of any promise or [pet-; cond-]ition made in connection with it. Further, the testator appoints and institutes as executor of this, his testament, his aforesaid son [Jacob] Kip, with such absolute power and authority as all testamentary [???]tors have according to law and reason. All that is hereinbefore [giv?]en having been clearly read to the testator he declares the same [to be] his final and last will, which he wishes and desires after his [death] to have full force and effect, notwithstanding some formalities [???]red by law may not have been observed herein, considering the [???] however, as inserted in the most effective and usual manner. [?????]ness whereof this is signed and sealed at Kipsberry aforesaid, day, month and year as above written. Hendrick Kip. (L.S.) Frederick Elsworth Kip says; "The minutes of the Directors of Amsterdam, Holland, record that "Henrick Henrickson Snijder (tailor) requests [an a]ccount of Henrick Jansen Snijder according to the bill of ex-[???] dated August 15 1635, &c." Both this record and the baptisms of [??]ildren recorded in Amsterdam, Holland, prove that he was living there before 1636, and he came to America about 1637 with his wife and five children, as on the map of New Netherland of 1639 he is recorded as owning one of the plantations"...."Hendrick Kip's house, in its garden of about sixty-five feet front upon Bridge Street, was occupied by him for many years and upon adjoining land in Stone Street his two sons, Isaac and Jacob Kip, and his son-in-law, Jan Jansen van St. Obyn, built houses for themselves. Hendrick Kip bought other property also." "In those early times the first settlers, irrespective of rank, were tailors and coopers, carpenters and innkeepers, as must be the case when a colony is built up in a wilderness, so it does not surprise us that Hendrick Kip, one of the leading men of his day, was a tailor!" "He was a politician and was one of the popular party which in those times opposed the bloody Director Kieft, who had provoked the Indians into a war which made the whole community fear being murdered by their savage neighbors." (Who were the savages?!?jwb)
Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip and his wife, Tryntje Lubbers had: Issue. Writers differ in the list, but the Amsterdam records, as already quoted, show: 1. Abraham, bp. 8 May 1625 2. Isaac bp. 10 January 1627 3. Jacob bp. 16 May 1631 4. Baertjen bp. 5. Hendrick bp. 14 August 1633 6. Tryntje bp. 8 June 1636 The New Amsterdam records show, 7. Femmetje, bp. 19 April 1643. Of these children, Abraham and Femmetje, were evidently deceased when [their f]ather made his will in 1654, as they are not mentioned. There [was a ?] daughter, Baertie, according to the will, living in 1654, and was [older] than Jacob, perhaps, as her name comes first in the will. It seems [very] probable that the person who copied the baptismal record over [looked] one child, born perhaps in 1629, as there is a gap of four years [between] Isaac and Jacob, and in so many early families the interval [between] births was quite regularly two years. Then, if Baertie was [born in] 1629 she was twenty years of age at the time of her marriage, as [we have] seen. [There] is a Baertje Hendricks, a "young woman from Amsterdam", who [married] in New Amsterdam, Jan Jansen, a "young man from Tubingen", on 16 January 1648/49. Her husband's name is also given as Jan Jansen Van St. [Obyn], alias Jan Wanshaer, and other names. She married, 2nd, 12 December 1677 Jan Kirkszen (Meyer), as 2nd wife. She had issue by first marriage, Wan[shaer]: Abraham, Johannes, 1st., Jacob, Hendrick, Anthony, Robert, Johannes 2nd, Johannes 3rd., Jan, Caral, and Jacomyntie.
(NOTE) There are grave discrepancies in the history of Isaac Kip and Hendrick Kip, sons of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip, as the father's will devises property to the children of these sons, then deceased. Amsterdam records show the baptism of Femmetje, another daughter. In the will appears the name of a daughter, Baertie, then living. The will mentions Isaac and Hendrick, as deceased, leaving children, yet Isaac was married 1st, in 1653. No mention is made of Femmetje. Now history shows that Isaac was living long after 1654, and Hendrick was not married until 1660. It is also said that Femmetje joined the church in New Amsterdam 2 January 1661, and was a sponsor 13 July 1667, at the baptism of Jacomyntie, daughter of Jan de Caper, alias Wanshaer, which is the last notice found of her. In a foot note to Purple's history, he says that Hendrick Kip, the son of Ruloff, the 2nd, born in 1576, took an active part in the Company of Foreign Countries, &c., and that he came to New Amsterdam in 1635 with his children, and some years after, returned to Holland, where he died. His sons remained in New Amsterdam, and rose to important positions as citizens and landed proprietors. He married Margaret de Marneil and had issue; Hendrick, who married Ana De Sille; Jacobus, who married Maria De La Montagne; and Isaac, who married Catalina de Snyder, &c. In the body of the history he goes on to give the history in full of Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip, with his issue, as Baertie, born in Amsterdam, Isaac, Jacob, Tryntje, Hendrick and Femmetje. He has given the two Hendricks as one person instead of father and son. ([In]cidentally, it is possible that in the baptismal record, the first child was given as Abraham, was copied wrong, as was Baertie. The above extracts of history from different authors show that implicit confidence should not always be placed upon historical statements, unless proven by public records.)
Isaac Hendrickson Kip had issue, Hendrick, bp. 8 February 1654. He and his brother Jacobus were co-patentees of the Manor of Kipsburg, a tract of land on the east side of the Hudson River, where Rhinebeck now stands, extending four miles along the river and several miles inland. This patent dated 2 June 1688, confirmed an Indian title to the land given 28 July 1686. He was probably the Lieut. Hendrick Kip of Capt. Baltus Van Kleeck's Company of Foot, in 1700, one of the eight Militia companies of Ulster and Dutchess counties. He married and had a number of children who settled in the vicinity of Rhinebeck. Tryntie, daughter of Isaac Hendrickszen Kip, bp. 13 September 1658 married 5 January 1676 Philip De Forest, son of Isaac and Sarah (du Triaux) De Forest. Philip was bp. 28 July 1652. He was a cooper and removed from New York about 1680 to the Manor of Rensselaerwyck, and was buried in Albany 18 August 1727. Issue, Sarah, Susanna, Matje, Isaac, Jesse, Catrina, Johannes, David and Abraham. Abraham Kip, bp. 3 September 1659, removed from New York to Albany where he married 16 October 1687 Cossis Van der Heyden. He was buried in Albany 28 June 1731. Issue; Isaac, Anna, Catalyntie, Jacob and Cornelius, twins; Geertruy and Catherina, twins. Isaac, bp. 15 January 1662. Jacob, bp 29 August 1666. He is probably the Jacobus Kip, born 25 August 1666, mentioned by Holgate as the co-patentee with Hendrick, of the Manor if Kipsburg, and who died 28 February 1753. He married Rachel Swartout and had issue Isaac, Roeloff and Catalyntie. (This does not agree with the history of Jacobus at the top of this page -- another blunder by somebody! note of Frank Edgar Weeks) Johannes, bp 20 January 1669. (Just before this, at Tryntie (bp. 1658), F.E.Weeks started using numbers. I won't since there's no pattern before.) Jacob Hendrickszen Kip, son of Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip, born in Amsterdam 16 May 1631 (page 150 in an unnamed article). In 1647 he gave to Harman Droogh, his uncle, a power of attorney to receive money due him from the West India Company at Amsterdam. The same year he was clerk in the provincial Secretary's office at New Amsterdam, and as early as December 1649 was acting clerk in Director Stuyvesant's Council. he was appointed 27 January 1653 the first Secretary of the Court of Burgomasters and Schepens of New Amsterdam. Upon resignation of that office 12 June 1657, he engaged in brewing, combining with this business that of general trader or storekeeper. He was a member of the Board of Schepens in 1659, 62, 63, 65, and 1673, and was president of the board in 1674. On the first of March 1660 he with a number of other men, all resident of the Wallboght neighborhood, petitioned the Director for permission to form a village on the margin of the river between the lands of said Bogart and Kip,so, as they expressed it"we may be in sight of the Manhattans, or Fort Amsterdam." The position selected was probably the elevated point of land which jutted into the river about the foot of South Fourth Street, in the present Eastern District of Brooklyn, and which is known as the "Keike" [?? printing unclear] or "Lookout" (The Dutch word for lookout now is uitkijk). There is no evidence, remarks the learned historian of Brooklyn, that Jacob Kip ever resided on the lands above referred to, and "it was probably owing to his desire to improve the value of his real estate by securing the establishment of a village thereon, that this petition was made", and through his influence with the authorities, was granted. In early times some member of the Kip family -- was it Jacob or his father? -- obtained a patent for a farm of 150 acres, on the East River, on what is still known as Kip's bay. It is said that Jacob Kip in 1655, the year after his marriage, erected on this farm a house which was rebuilt in 1696, and was, for a short time during the Revolution, Washington's headquarters. It stood upon the line of 35th Street, and was demolished in 1851. His house in the city was built in 1657, and was situated in the present Exchange Place. He owned a number of city houses and lots, and in 1665 resided in the present Broad Street, near Exchange Place, and was there probably as late as 1674. In 1686 he was living "Beyond the Fresh Water", the Kip's Bay farm doubtless being the place alluded to. From a (recent) post to the Dutch-Colonies list: Subj: The tailors vs Kieft (was Re: SNYER(S) to SNYDER?? ) Date: 03/16/2000 3:21:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: firstname.lastname@example.com (Howard Swain) To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Hi all,
At 02:23 PM 3/15/00 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Here is what J.H. Innes says in "New Amsterdam and it's People: Studies, Socila and Topographical of theTown under Dutch and early English Rule' (New York, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1902)
In point form:
- 27 May 1638 Hendrick was prosecuted for slander of the Dir. Kieft. His defense was that he had been asleep when he uttered the slander.
- in 1642 he was "very drunk" at a gathering at Burger Jorissen's house and complained about Kieft in front of witnesses. He was arrrested and ordered to be put in irons and kept imprisoned for one month, then sentenced to banishment.
p. 230 - he was ordred to leave June 1643 on Prince Maurice but he avoided leaving.
- 29 Sept 1644 he was fined 500 guilders for slandering Kieft and his "son in law Gillis Pietersen gave his promissory note" for this amount
Hendrick Janszen wasn't the only tailor who disliked Kieft.
From The Kip Family in America p. 31:
"Hendrick Kip was a man of strong character and fearless disposition, and was fitly described by Stedman in his poem on "The Nine Men of New Amsterdam" as 'Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip.'" (Does anyone know where this poem has been printed?)
"He [Hendrick Kip] seems to have possessed a sense of humor, however, as May 6, 1643, Samuel Chandelaer made affidavit that he heard Hendrick the tailor say: "The Kivit (meaning 'pee-wit' or lap-wing,' a play upon Kieft's name and character) ought to be packed off to Holland in the Peacock, with a letter of recommendation to Master Gerrit (the public executioner), and a pound flemish, so that he may give him a nobleman's death." Footnote: "In those days the noblement were beheaded and the commoners hung."
Although from the excerpt above, it is not clear to me which "Hendrick the tailor" was meant. Hopefully, it was clear from the complete record.
My dictionary shows lap-wing as kievit, which would be even closer to Kieft.
Regards, Howard firstname.lastname@example.com And a reply e-mail: Subj: Re: The tailors vs Kieft (was Re: SNYER(S) to SNYDER?? ) Date: 03/16/2000 5:44:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: firstname.lastname@example.com (Lorine McGinnis Schulze) Reply-to: email@example.com To: email@example.com
Howard Swain <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
"Hendrick Kip was a man of strong character and fearless disposition, and was fitly described by Stedman in his poem on "The Nine Men of New Amsterdam" as 'Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip.'" (Does anyone know where this poem has been printed?)
I cannot tell you if this poem has been published, but Stedman shows up as a published author in the Library of Congress online catalogue. There one book attributed to him -- so hopefully the poem will be in it!
Brief Description:
Stedman, Edmund Clarence, 1833-1908. Poets of America / by Edmund Clarence Stedman. 4th ed. Boston : Houghton, Mifflin ; Cambridge : Riverside
Press, 1886.
xviii, 516 p. ; 21 cm.
For the online catalogue go here
Lorine McGinnis Schulze firstname.lastname@example.com Howard
The NYPL online catalogue (CATYNIP) has 75 of Stedman's works. :-)
Some are classified in Rare Books & Mss.
I think you may find your poem there! Will you share it with the list if you do?
"The Dutch Patrol", by Edmund Clarence Stedman: http://www.litscape.com/author/Edmund_Clarence_Stedman/The_Dutch_Patrol.html
Hendrick Hendricksen Kipp's Timeline
April 24, 1600
Nieuwenhuishoek, Gelderland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden
Age 19
Nieukercken, Zeeland, Netherlands
May 6, 1625
Age 25
January 10, 1627
Age 26
Amsterdam, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden
March 8, 1629
Age 28
Amsterdam, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden
May 16, 1631
Age 31
Amsterdam, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden
August 14, 1633
Age 33
Amsterdam, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden
Age 32
Amsterdam, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden


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"Update 6 is a rather unique update in that it includes no bug fixes. What Update 6 does include is a new and more efficient way of delivering bug fixes. A new 'Update software...' menu item on Workbench now launches AmiUpdate which will now handle all future AmigaOS software updates." A nice universal operating system update functionality is always nice.


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Students say they want to change the face of Belmont mascotBy DAN SEUFERT
Union Leader Correspondent
April 16. 2014 10:44PM
BELMONT — About 70 people, including dozens of Belmont High School students, came to a special student council meeting Wednesday night at which three students explained they don't want to change the school's mascot name, Red Raiders.
Juniors Taylor Becker and Ashley Fenimore and sophomore Andrew Bragg said they do want to change the image in the Red Raider logo, which features a drawing of an American Indian face.
They played a video showing American Indians who said they felt associating their culture with sports teams is racist. Several speakers on the video said, "I am not a mascot."
Bragg said an American Indian who was recently a student at the school also complained about the logo.
"Many students don't associate with the Red Raider; they associate with Belmont High School," Fenimore said.
Still, she said, people who call themselves Red Raiders will be able to continue to call themselves Red Raiders if the face of the mascot is changed.
"Once a Raider, always a Raider," she said.
John Goegel of Canterbury, a coach at the school, agreed.
"Using Native American mascots was never meant to be offensive" to American Indians, he said, "We might want to change the perception of the Red Raider. I think it's time for a change."
Belmont Selectman Ron Cormier, an alumni of the school, was one of many in the audience speaking in favor or keeping both the image and the Red Raider name.
"Before you consider changing the Red Raider, consider what the Red Raider actually means to all of us who went here," Cormier said, to loud applause.
State Police Trooper Eric Shirley, a father of students in the school and a member of Friends of Belmont Football, said he was opposed to changing the mascot. He said he doesn't see the American Indian image on the school mascot as a negative symbol.
"I see it paying homage to the warrior spirit (of American Indians), not as a bad perception of (an American Indian)," Shirley said.
Speakers were evenly split on the proposed change. The crowd applauded equally for each viewpoint expressed.
Earlier this week, Superintendent Maria Dreyer said the school debated changing the name about 12 years ago, but instead changed the logo, replacing an American Indian face with "more of a contemporary face, a figure of a face."
Dreyer said the idea of changing it further came from several student council members.
Principal Dan Clary said the Shaker Regional School District school board will have the ultimate say in whether the mascot and logo are changed.
An informal poll at UnionLeader.com had garnered 875 responses Wednesday night.
Eighty-four percent of polltakers were opposed to changing the Red Raiders' name and logo.


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July 23. 2013 9:31PM
Manchester man accused of pulling fire alarm
MANCHESTER -- A local man was arrested early Tuesday after allegedly pulling a fire alarm on an apartment building after arguing with his ex-girlfriend.
Police said Aaron Brunelle, 26, had shown up at a South Beech Street apartment several times, repeatedly buzzing his ex-girlfriend's apartment and demanding to be let into the building. She refused, but he gained access "somehow" and began banging on and kicking her door, police said in a release.
When she didn't respond, he walked away and allegedly pulled the building's alarm about 1:30 a.m. Tuesday, forcing residents to leave it.
Brunelle wasn't at the building when police arrived, but showed up again Tuesday afternoon. He ran away, but a police dog found him hiding behind a tree several blocks away, police said.
He was charged with counts of stalking and making a false fire alarm.
Police: Man tried to sell stolen jewelry
A local man who allegedly led police on car chase on Monday was arrested after police identified him as the man who had pawned stolen jewelry at several pawn shops.
Police said Anthony Ciechon, 33, was standing in the roadway on Kelly Street in front of Good Still pawn shop about 5:45 p.m. Monday. When an officer approached him, he got into a car and speeded away through an alley.
Ciechon then allegedly led an officer on a chase on Amory Street and across the Bridge Street Bridge before stopping in a parking space on Stark Street.
Ciechon was charged with disobeying a police officer, several motor vehicle violations, nine counts of receiving stolen property and nine counts of theft.
Man accused of firing gun at car
A local man who allegedly fired a gun at a car was arrested Monday on charges of criminal threatening and reckless conduct.
Police said Abdallah Hassan, 25, approached two men outside the Seven Eleven store on Maple Street about 10:15 p.m. Monday and pulled out a gun. He was apparently upset over a past dispute, police said.
The other men drove away from the lot, but were followed by a car in which Hassan was the passenger, police said. He leaned out the window and fired one shot at them, police said. Police said they recovered a 9 mm shell casing near the scene of the shooting.
Police: Ex-boyfriend slashed new boyfriend
A local man who allegedly slashed and punched his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend Monday night was arrested on assault charges.Police said Zachariah Head, 19, approached the passenger side of his ex-girlfriend's car and, while holding a knife, threatened to kill her new boyfriend. The other man put up his hands and feet to deflect the attack and was cut on the hand. Head then reached in through the window and punched the other man in the face before running away.


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CLINTON, N.Y. -- Hamilton College's Will Driscoll '15 tallied 15 saves and the Continentals upset nationally ranked No. 14 Connecticut College 5-4 in a NESCAC game at Hamilton's Steuben Field on April 13.
The Continentals (6-5 overall, 3-5 NESCAC) held on to that slim lead the entire fourth quarter. Conn. College had three great looks at a scoring opportunity in the final 45 seconds, but Driscoll made two saves and the other shot hit the post. Hamilton was whistled for a delay of game penalty with 27.4 seconds remaining, which gave the Camels an extra-man opportunity. But after one last save by Driscoll, the Continentals ran out the clock.
Conn. College (8-3, 5-2) had won six games in a row entering today's contest. Hamilton has won two of the three all-time meetings with the Camels, and the Continentals are 2-1 this year against ranked opponents.
Connor Morgan '15 posted two goals and Bryan Hopper '14 finished with one goal and two assists for the Continentals. Pax Anthos '14 added one goal and one assist. Nate Menninger '16 chipped in one goal and a game-high seven ground balls. Luke Walsh '13 and Matt Hill '13 recorded one assist apiece. Menninger won four faceoffs and Anthos was a perfect 2-for-2. Ed Reed '13 and Dylan Lahey '15 caused four turnovers apiece.
Chad Sawyer '15 scored three goals and Thomas Woessner '14 had the other one for Conn. College. Andrew Freedman '13 dished out one helper. Bobby Bleistein '16 made 10 saves and tied for the team lead with four ground balls. Jack Griffin '14 also scooped up four ground balls and Brogan O'Connor '13 caused five turnovers.
The Camels raced out to a 2-0 lead on a pair of goals less than two minutes into the first quarter. Freedman found Sawyer just 47 seconds in, and Sawyer added an unassisted tally 64 seconds later.
Hamilton responded with two goals 14 seconds apart that tied the score. Anthos scored from Hopper and cut the deficit in half. Menninger won the ensuing faceoff, Hill picked up the ground ball and passed it back to Menninger for the equalizer with 8:47 left in the first.
The teams traded goals in the final minute of the first. Woessner scored an unassisted goal with 59.8 seconds to go, and Hopper received a pass from Anthos and sent a shot by Bleistein with 15.8 seconds remaining. The score was tied 3-3 after one quarter.
With the score still tied late in the second, Morgan scored the first of his two goals on a pass from Walsh with 1:45 left in the half. The Continentals owned a 4-3 advantage at the break.
In the third quarter, Morgan picked up right where he left off in the second. His 10th goal this year off a feed from Hopper was the eventual game-winner 2:55 into the third. Sawyer completed his hat trick and rounded out the scoring on his 24th goal with 4:10 left to go in the third.
In the final quarter, Driscoll made five saves and the Camels hit the post twice. Conn. College held slight advantages in shots (30-22), ground balls (28-25) and faceoffs (7-6).
Hamilton stopped the Camels on all six of their man-up opportunities. The Continentals entered the week ranked seventh in Division III in man-down defense at 87.1 percent.
Hamilton wraps up its home slate with another NESCAC game against Williams College on Tuesday, April 16. The Camels stay on the road in NESCAC play at Amherst College on Tuesday.
April 22, 2013 Bleistein Honored as NESCAC Player of the Week for Camels
April 13, 2013 Hamilton College 5, Connecticut College 4
April 8, 2013 Surging Camels Host Babson Tuesday at 4 on Freeman Field
March 16, 2013 Middlebury College 11, #15 Connecticut College 4
March 6, 2013 Camels Prepare for Saturday's Season Opener at Bowdoin
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Frequent snowstorms taking a toll on Manchester's plowing budgetBy BILL SMITH
New Hampshire Union Leader
February 20. 2014 11:44PM
MANCHESTER — When it comes to the cost to the city of removing snow from city streets, it's not as much the depth, as it is the frequency.
Five snowstorms in a 10-day period this month drained an estimated 25 percent of Manchester's snow plowing budget for the winter of 2014, and city highway officials say the accounts are now depleted.
The official winter season still has a month remaining. But nature knows nothing of calendars and is quite adept at whipping up additional foul weather systems well after the tulips and crocuses appear.
N.H. Department of Public Works managers are faced with the potential for more storms and will have to find the money to pay to clear Manchester's more than 400 miles of road.
Bills are still being tallied for the most recent storms, but the budget took at big hit earlier in the month with multiple storms in less than a week's time.
"Three storms on the 10th, the 13th and the 15th cost $225,000," said Tim Clougherty, the deputy public works director in charge of administration. "Given the back-to-back nature of the storms, we're still accounting for all of our costs."
80 inches of snow
National Weather Service records say that central New Hampshire has received close to 80 inches of snow so far this winter — close to three feet of snow in February alone — during which there have been eight days on which an inch or more of snow has fallen.
Last year, the city had money left in its snow and ice accounts right up to the end of winter in March. In the previous year, the winter of 2012, when there were no major storms from October until mid-February, the city spent only $550,000 on snow plowing and salting.
Clougherty said that when the snow removal fund runs at a deficit, the DPW must look to other areas to meet the cost.
"It is part of the general fund, so we will be making up any shortfall with that," Clougherty said. "If we feel that our entire department general fund will be exceeded, we would have to go the Board of Mayor and Aldermen."
One of the biggest budget strains this year is the sheer number of snowstorms. There have been at least 33 days when more than trace amounts of snow have been received, and 15 on which two or more inches of snow fell, although many snowstorms begin one day and end the next.
The duration of a storm determines how much overtime, fuel and supplies, such as salt, will be consumed. But the city is hit with a minimum expense whenever there's enough snow to order the plows and sanders to hit the streets.
"It doesn't matter if it's two inches or six inches, we have to send out our fleet; we have a base cost for covering all our streets," Clougherty said. "It doesn't cost more to plow four (inches) than to plow an inch-and-a-half."
Taking a toll on equipment
Frequent storms take their toll on equipment, which may require repairs when it is needed on the streets. The Public Works Department has asked the Board of Mayor and Aldermen to allow it to keep a older truck that was scheduled to be scrapped, just in case it is needed while other equipment is being repaired.
Some cities have reported that the number of storms has drained their supply of salt and sand, but that isn't an issue in Manchester. The city uses salt, as opposed to sand or a salt/sand mix to treat roads, and Clougherty said there is no danger of running out before the snow season is over.
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Note: Deer & Deer Hunting Editor Dan Schmidt has just returned from a weeklong hunt near Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. This is the second installment of a five-part blog series on his adventure. Check back each day this week for updates.
Over the past two decades, I've been chasing trophy whitetails across 18 states and now four Canadian provinces. Some of these big buck hunts have found me pursuing whitetails in the far-reaching forests of Maine, Montana, Wisconsin, Ontario, Alberta and even Quebec's enchanted Anticosti Island. Without question, last week's trip to Prince Albert, Saskatchewan ranks at the top of the list for "most wild." Never in my life have I hunted whitetails on such a virgin landscape.
Day 1 of the hunt started uncerimoniously, as I chose to stay back at camp and make sure my CVA Accura's Konus scope was still "on," while 80 percent of the other hunters headed on their 2-hour excursions toward their stands. We were staying at Garden River Outfitters just outside of the Prince Albert National Forest. This is ground owned by the Canadian government ("Crown" land) that is leased to outfitter Mo Heisler. He has been guiding big-buck fanatics up here since the 1980s. His reputation is unmatched, as is evidenced by photo after photo of smiling hunters kneeling beside B&C-class bucks.
Heisler's approach is simple. A born trapper, he uses his keen woods knowledge to pinpoint prime deer areas across his 200,000-acre range. Canadians call it "the bush." I call it one endless sea of forest.
"How far does this woods go?" I asked innocently while sitting down at the shooting range to shoot my muzleloader. "I don't know," Heisler said. "Never really thought about that. Probably all the way to the North Pole," he added I think half-jokingly.
Nestling my cheek into the gunstock, I held a steady grip while centering the cross-hair on the target. KABOOM! Smoke belched out of the fluted Bergara barrel and hung in the 18-degree morning air. My eyes strained to view the paper target through the scope.
"Was there a mark in that bull's-eye beforehand?" I asked.
"Nope," said Heisler. "Someone will meet you up by the camp house. You're ready to hunt."
I soon loaded all of my gear into a warm, waiting truck and was headed north with Cal, Mo's head guide and right-hand man. We drove on snow-packed road that I assumed were paved underneath. And drove. And drove. More than an hour later, we pulled off the road and onto a path that wound through vast expanses of fallow ground. Thirty minutes after that, we approached an endless wall of woodlands.
From there, we loaded my backpack, Heater Body Suit and cased gun onto a waiting ATV.
"Put your facemask on," Cal said. "This ride can get a little cold."
He wasn't kidding. Seated behind my guide on a one-man Honda Foreman ATV, I held on to the back cargo rack like a bronco rider as we drove countless miles into the gut of a incredibly gorgeous old-growth forest. I'm a tree man by hobby, but I couldn't quite pinpoint the species I was seeing whiz by us as we drove. However, Cal later told me these woods are populated by mostly white spruce and black poplar. Forty minutes later, the ATV came to an abrupt stop.
"Here we are," Cal whispered while pointing to an Ameristep Outhouse one-man blind buried behind some well-placed spruce bows. "I'll refresh the bait on the way out. Good luck. See you at dark."
After unloading all of my gear inside the blind and climbing into my Heater Body Suit, I ripped open six extra-large air-activated hand-warmers and stuck them in my pac boots, pant pockets and chest pockets. I then zipped up the blind's windows, leaving one open just enough to see down the 15-foot wide path to the bait station. That's all I could see. This woods was so thick that a deer could have walked within 30 yards of the blind in any other direction, and I wouldn't have seen it.
Although it did seem a bit odd that I had traveled all of these miles to sit in a woods watching a bait pile, I knew full well that this is really the only way to hunt deer in this type of environment and expect to see something. The week's temperatures called for single-digits. Tracking or still-hunting these whitetails is an admirable fantasy, it would be downright dangerous. Heisler warned us the previous night to not even think about blood-trailing a deer in these woods.
"It's very easy to get lost out here," Heisler said. "Oh, we'll find you. But I can't guarantee that we'll find you alive."
With those pleasant thoughts dancing in my head, I was more than happy to cast my gaze toward the alfalfa haybale resting in the snow 89 yards in front of my blind in this North Woods jungle.
Click here to read part 3: "That Has Got to Be the BIGGEST Buck I've Ever Seen!"
Earlier posts from this series:
Part 1: Big Bucks North of the Border


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A three-vehicle crash on Interstate 44 in Franklin County killed one truck driver and injured three other people, including a Rolla man, Saturday morning, Dec. 8.
A three-vehicle crash on Interstate 44 in Franklin County killed one truck driver and injured three other people, including a Rolla man, Saturday morning, Dec. 8.
According to the Missouri State Highway Patrol, Diaael D. Saker, 25, of Kenner, La., died from injuries suffered in the accident after being transported to Mercy Hospital in Washington, Mo.
The accident occurred on I-44 at the 248.6 mile marker when Saker lost control of a 2012 Kenworth tractor-trailer that was traveling eastbound, causing the vehicle to travel off the north side of the interstate. Saker then overcorrected, causing the tractor trailer to overturn.
A 2002 Chevrolet Trailblazer driven by Billy R. Wells, 42, of Rolla, and a 2001 Nissan Sentra driven by Roxanne C. Rath, 25, of Sullivan, which were both traveling eastbound as well, attempted to stop, causing both vehicles to slide into the tractor-trailer.
Rath, who suffered moderate injuries, was transported to Mercy Hospital Washington along with Wells and Felix D. Smith, 51, of Pasadena, Calif., a passenger in the tractor-trailer, who both suffered minor injuries.
Saker, Wells and Rath were also wearing seat belts. Saker was pronounced dead at 5:30 a.m. at the hospital. His body was taken to the St. Louis County morgue.
The tractor-trailer and Nissan were both totaled and the Trailblazer had moderate damage.
The crash was reported at 4:50 a.m. The interstate was fully reopened after 3 p.m. Saturday. A major crash investigation unit team was called into assist the highway patrol.


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Just recently read the manga i'm in love with my sister and it was weird. guys, what do you think about incest manga? do you think it's gross?
Lots to do...lots to do.
lol, that's the result of reading too much manga/watching too much anime
well, I think u have the right to love....... but.but.... I think it's kinda.... uhmm.. I can't explain..lol, someone related to you..
Errare humanum est
it is da worst...i read one and it felt so freaking awful....it is just totally un-right...we loves our relatives but....it is just dat poeple who don't have mind think dat any feeling of love means sex
Sometime, you lose track of the line between life and death.
I don't like incest or anything, but as for anime and manga goes. Its all pretty weird to people who aren't familiar with it. They have all sorts of manga, do you think yayoi is weird? I think its pretty gross but its for the fans. If you don't like incest manga or anything other type just don't read it.
Well, if you think about it, manga is a form of expression of things you wouldn't actually do in real life. It is like writing a book about savagely murdering thousands of people in a night, but in real life... you don't do such things. Incest is probably the worst of taboos in any society. If you can experience the sick feeling (sadly enough the freedom) to fantasize about it once in your life, you move on and do something else with your time afterward. People with mental instabilities however should not read suggestive material such as incest manga. And such warnings should be posted before the experience is met.
Sadly, I live in America, where the children are susceptible to minimal prompting.
There is only ONE future which is dictated by the exercise of free will..
It freaks me out, it paints a mental image of me *shivers* and my *shivers* brother not nice. *vomits*
if your someone who reads those type of things.. get help. Seriously. I love the Japanese, but things like incest are better left in the closet.
I dont know I find it excinting cause I think forbiden loves are awesome but..........
if it were in real life... it would be really complicated
and so so in that if I think its gross
my weakness will not shater my spirit
Incest has destroyed families and lives. Some lines just should not be crossed. I'd never read a manga about it and think its disgusting!
its wincest*
also I love it when theres the scene where the sister or soemone goes crazy and attacks someone
wasnt there something like that in shuffle! ?
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Incest has destroyed families and lives. Some lines just should not be crossed. I'd never read a manga about it and think its disgusting!
i agree..
Lots to do...lots to do.
Not a fan.
See you, space cowboy
I hope this thread continues I'm enjoying a laugh from all these comical comments. Personally I agree with what Oturanjp said and he put it out there well enough that I can't follow up lol. Personally as someone interested in a good read if the story is good I can be mature enough to separate fiction from real life. I could read an incest manga or what not and not turn around and look at my sister and be like hmmm. Not something I'd do in real life but yea I'd read a few as long has they had a good story and the art was good.
depends on the story if it's a doujin "porn" then i could care less if it's a comdey series like "my younger sister can not be this cute" than well just
going black friday shopping tonight at 12am wish me luck everyone.
So often the incest issue is non-existent because they are step siblings, not blood related, yet falling in love for some reason is still taboo. Guess it must be a cultural thing. I don't think love between step relatives could really be considered bad unless the sex is between step parent & step child or becomes a rape.
Closed minds fast run out of space!


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Hollywood has great radar for finding the one terrifying image or event that will hook an audience. I saw a film recently that has been out long enough to have sequels. It is called "Taken," starring Liam Neeson as Bryan Mills, a highly trained government agent whose daughter is kidnapped by a sex trafficking ring.
In the slaughter that follows, Mills lays out his enemies like Sampson with the jawbone of the ass, only in this case Sampson has automatic weapons, fists, cars and enhanced interrogation techniques. He becomes the vengeful father doing anything to rescue his daughter. Which, of course — spoiler alert — he does, since this is Hollywood, after all.
That the film touched some primal paternal instinct became obvious to me when for the next week I got jumpy every time my youngest daughter went out for a run. I actually got in my car and went out looking for her once when she was a few minutes late getting back.
That fathers are protective of their daughters is a given. Maybe it is because we dads are men, and we know how bad men can be, or maybe it is because we have been taught to be defenders of the castle. I'd like to think it is just what we do — we protect our children.
As a father of one female college student and another on the way, these are two reasons why I absolutely hate the recent wave of stories of sexual assaults on campus, many of them telling horrific stories of young women brutally raped and forced to suffer additional indignities when universities purport to conduct investigations usually guaranteed only to protect themselves from lawsuits.
That daughters are betrayed first by fellow students and then by the adults ostensibly in charge is too much for any decent dad to handle. So is the much quoted statistic that 20 percent of all women on college campuses have been sexually assaulted. The statistic is probably false — one expert says the number is more likely 1 in 40 rather than 1 in 5 — but the concern is real.
That is why I want my daughters to be smart: Team up with friends. Look out for one another. Don't leave drinks unattended, and don't leave girlfriends behind. Trust your instincts. And if alcohol is involved, be twice as careful: People get frighteningly stupid on booze.
But as a father of two boys, I also worry about the guys. In this over-sexed world, guys get terrible messages about women and sex in songs, TV and movies. Worse still is the impact of pornography on teens. One expert told me that pornography is how sex education is done today. By this he meant that before parents or schools or religion classes ever get around to talking about sex, kids are learning from the absolutely worst source possible: an internet industry built on sexual abuse and exploitation. It shapes their fantasies and their expectations of what is "normal" in dangerous ways. The fact that so many recent gang rape cases involve onlookers taking cell phone videos is itself a horrific manifestation of this porn culture.
So fathers of daughters need fathers of sons to get involved. The fathers of sons need to demonstrate in word and deed how men should behave around women and should stress that their sons need to be responsible and take responsibility for their actions. Nothing is more dismaying than seeing "student athletes" — boy-men with intolerable egos — attempt to shun responsibility for horrors they have committed. Dismaying for the moral blindness it displays, and dismaying for the example it sets.
For fictional superheroes like Bryan Mills, the fantasy is all about revenge. For us flesh-and-blood dads, reality is all about prevention, and the focus needs to be on both our sons and daughters.
Greg Erlandson is OSV's president and publisher.
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Each month the most prolific myMoleskine author is featured with an interview. Beside, for each chosen author, a sleeve is created based upon one of his uploaded artworks Perfect to store and classify your pocket sized notebooks, leeves are completely free, downloadable and printable.
For November 2010, the author chosen is Sebastian Karim: his interview and sleeve: his profile on mymoleskine.


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After running across a story of a mother's nasty discovery, I did a little more digging on mold and juice box pairings that aren't pretty. Join this discussion and tell us, have you found something yucky in a juice box or pouch before?It's important to monitor how active your fetus is in the last months of gestation. Maybe more than ever before, doctors request pregnant women to tune into their body to detect if something could be wrong. A group of moms, after incredible tragedy, created a free app to aid in fetal kicks counting. Get the link with more information right here. We are discussing what appears to be an increase in gang activity in Lakeland. Are you feeling frustrated by recent stories of gun violence? If you're not sure what to expect in monthly bills with a new baby, I added a link that discusses realistic amounts and some tips to save. I was just eyeing the school board calendar checking out the early release day schedule and blaring before me is just how many days are left of the school year, and by many, I mean, not many at all. Less than a month to go, we are counting down to the last day of school. Be careful using public parks without a parent inspection, another case of planted razor blades on playground equipment recently hit the news and sent children to seek medical attention. Find those details here. Another national story has appeared with a mom-to-be alleging a conflict with her pregnancy and employer. If you've ever felt similarly slighted, her story and another similar thread could offer you solace and suggestions.
Thanks for reading mom mail and I hope you will join us for these topics and others in the forums.
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|Neptune's Daughter (film)
|Frank Music Corp.
"On a Slow Boat to China" is a romantic song that Miss Piggy sings to Roger Moore in The Muppet Show episode 524.
Miss Piggy thinks Roger is going on a date with her, but gets angry when she discovers he's taking Annie Sue out instead. While the couple leave for the opening act of Hamlet, Piggy karate-chops a photo of Roger to the floor.
The song was composed by Frank Loesser for the film Neptune's Daughter. Miss Piggy had previously sung "Baby, It's Cold Outside," another Loesser song from the same film, to an unresponsive, hunky guest star.
A small segment of this song can be seen being performed on the documentary Of Muppets and Men.
- When Big Bird and Barkley begin their journey to China by boat in the special, Big Bird in China, Big Bird asks Barkley if he thinks they're on an "awfully slow boat".


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Archive: Acquitted!
Convenience store owner released from custody
November 24, 2007
By Monica Drum
Eagle City Reporter
Yoknapatawpha District Attorney R.J. Metcalf expressed shock and disbelief yesterday in court when local convenience store owner Melvin Roberts was acquitted of what Metcalf and other officials felt was an airtight charge of rape against a 16-year-old girl.
The girl, who also attended the court proceedings to identify her attacker, burst into tears when the Honorable Marty McManus released Roberts based on what he called "a severe degree of reasonable doubt" that Roberts had actually committed the heinous crime.
The girl was attacked on March 15 in Roberts's home as she was sleeping. The girl was babysitting Roberts's grandson while Roberts was scheduled to be working and his wife was out of town visiting relatives.
The girl was forcibly raped and suffered a concussion, multiple contusions, and a broken finger as a result of the attack. She subsequently identified Roberts in a police line-up and also identified his voice from behind a screen as the voice of her attacker.
Roberts's blood type was also found at the scene, and he had three distinct scratches on his hand and a large bruise on his inner right thigh consistent with an act of rough sexual intercourse.
A large group of community leaders has rallied around Roberts from the beginning, contributing funds for his legal defense and working for free in his store to help defray the costs of his overhead.
Roberts's attorney, Don Margolis, has insisted from the start that Roberts could prove his innocence and would at the trial. A man of his word, Margolis produced a time-card from Roberts's store that showed that he was in the store working during the entire time of the attack.
Roberts's alibi was also corroborated by another employee who was in the store at the time and by several customers that Roberts called as witnesses for his defense. These witnesses stated that they saw Roberts in the store at various times ranging from 8 p.m. until 12 a.m. The girl was attacked at approximately 10 p.m.
District Attorney R.J. Metcalf says that he will not rule out Roberts as a suspect despite the strength of his alibi, due to the large amount of physical evidence associated with the case. But Metcalf said that while he'll continue investigating Roberts in the attack, he will now focus mainly on other possible attackers in the case.
Margolis says that he and his client plan to file a multi-million dollar lawsuit for false arrest against District Attorney Metcalf and the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff's Department for what Margolis calls the "malicious prosecution of my client, when they should have known that he would never do such a thing. He has the utmost respect for law enforcement. They eat free in his restaurant every day, and then they band together to railroad him into prison for attacking a child."
"It's crazy. The man is a war hero and this is how he's treated," Margolis continued. "Maybe when those coffers open up a little, they'll know how to treat such people."
Roberts plans to continue working at his store and says he apologizes to his customers for any inconvenience that his absence may have caused.


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At a special workshop meeting of the Grand Island Board of Education Monday evening, trustees and administrators heard a report from Dr. Steve Uebbing and Tim McElheran of the Warner School of Education (University of Rochester), regarding the search to replace Interim Superintendent of Schools Robert Christmann. The Warner Group was retained by the district for the sum of $16,000 to assist with finding qualified candidates for the position.
Uebbing, a retired superintendent of the Canandaigua City Schools, reported that varying numbers of people attended the focus groups he conducted to question the public on what qualities people want in the new superintendent. He also gathered information from surveys of the community and from interviews with administrators. "These are the stakeholders," he commented.
Looking at the responses gathered, Uebbing found that the public was looking for these qualities in the next superintendent:
•Fiscal responsibility
•Open communication, "approachability"
•Attentiveness to the needs of students, teachers and administrators
•Willingness to make a long-term commitment to the district
•Somebody who understands teaching and learning
•Improvement of the district's already high academic ranking
Uebbing said that his group would present seven or eight candidates for interview and then two or three for final consideration. He emphasized that the district would not only be interviewing the candidates, but that the candidates would be interviewing Grand Island as a district and as a community. The deadline to apply for the position is Dec 15. A list of six to eight finalists will be ready the last week in January, and finalists at the end of April or beginning of May. July 1 would be the beginning date of service for the new superintendent.
In a separate presentation, John Ticco, vice president of Campus Management, gave an overview of the district's upcoming capital project.
Ticco said that project plans for Grand Island High School and Veronica E. Connor Middle School would go to the State Education Department in mid-January. Construction on the high school technology wing should begin in April 2013. The final estimate report from Cannon Design is ready to go out for bid and is "on target budget-wise," Ticco said.
Campus Construction will manage "bid day," which involves public opening and reading of bids and tabulation and analysis of results. The company will also meet with low bidders in "pre-award" meetings to review plans before the actual awarding of contracts. A "kick-off" meeting will be held about two weeks before the actual groundbreaking on the wing.
Campus Construction recommends authorizing the superintendent of schools to execute change orders up to $35,000 and that a process be developed for change orders in excess of that amount. Also yet to be determined is how much building principals will be involved in the day- to-day construction process.
Finally, trustees unanimously approved the district's annual professional performance review plan for submission to the State Education Department. The New York state commissioner of education requires school districts to evaluate both novice and tenured teachers of academic subjects according to criteria agreed upon by the districts and the local teachers unions.
The next meeting of the Grand Island Board of Education is Monday, Dec. 10, at 7:30 p.m. in the Veronica Connor Middle School Little Theater. The next meeting of the Grand Island Board of Education is Monday, Dec. 10 at Veronica E. Connor Middle School. The board will walk its annual tour of the building. The transportation center vote is Tuesday, Dec. 18, from 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. in the high school gym.
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Michael Clarke on Friday said he was confident that Australia can regain the top spot if they play well after slipping to fourth in the world one-day rankings for the first time in three years.
The four-time world champions begin their quest to regain the lead with the first-ever one-day match against Afghanistan in Sharjah on Saturday before three one-day and as many Twenty20 internationals against Pakistan.
Skipper Clarke, 31, said he was optimistic that they can fight back.
"When we left England (in July this year) we were still the number one-ranked team in the world but because of other teams playing, we've slipped back down to four," Clarke told a press conference.
"But to me it's about playing really good consistent cricket all around the world and I know we'll get back to being number one," said Clarke.
Clarke brushed off speculation that he will move up the batting order, saying he had not received any official indication.
But he added: "I have made it very clear since taking over the captaincy that I'll bat wherever is best suited for the team. In this series if me batting three is the right option, that's what I'll do."
Clarke agreed Afghanistan had more experience of the pitch in Sharjah and said he was relishing the prospect of playing against the minnows.
"It's an opportunity for them to come out with nothing to lose and plenty to gain and I think it will be good cricket," said Clarke.
Clarke said once they finish Saturday's game his team will think about Pakistan, who are currently ranked sixth in one-day cricket.
"No doubt Pakistan's on my mind but our focus as a team has been on Afghanistan. After Saturday's game we'll sit down then and look at the Pakistan side.
"Pakistan also know the conditions well and these are pitches where, as the game goes on, there'll probably be a little bit more spin," he added.
All one-day matches will start at 6:00 pm local time (1400 GMT) to avoid oppressive heat in the United Arab Emirates.
"We don't really know what it's going to be like starting a match at six o'clock at night. We haven't done that before in one-day cricket. It's a lot different," said Clarke.
"You have to ask me after the first match but it's going to be a big challenge for both the teams, also for Pakistan."
Clarke confident Australia will get back to top
Michael Clarke on Friday said he was confident that Australia can regain the top spot if they play well after slipping to fourth in the world one-day rankings for the first time in three years.


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It is the intent of the Court to facilitate the use of alternative dispute resolution ("ADR") in all matters, including specifically contested matters and adversary proceedings, to the extent practicable, helpful and appropriate.
(a) ADR REPORT
Upon order of the Court entered in any contested matter or adversary proceeding, the Debtor and/or Trustee, and all parties (as well as all parties-in-interest affected thereby, including official Committees(s)) shall submit a report addressing the status of settlement negotiations, disclosing the identity of the person responsible for settlement negotiations for each party, and truthfully, candidly and realistically evaluating whether alternative dispute resolution is appropriate in the contested matter or adversary proceeding. Counsel shall certify in the report that their clients have been informed of the ADR procedures available in this district. In the event the parties conclude that ADR is appropriate and agree upon a method of ADR and a neutral, they should identify both the method of ADR and the neutral they have selected, the method by which the neutral was selected, and how the neutral will be compensated. If the parties agree upon an ADR method and neutral, the Court will defer to the parties' agreement, unless the Court finds that another ADR method or neutral is better suited to the contested matter, adversary proceeding or the parties.
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The Court on its own motion or upon the motion of any party or party-in-interest may order the participation in a non-binding alternative dispute resolution proceeding, including non-binding arbitration, early neutral evaluation, mediation, or mini-trial in accordance with Local Rule 1001(h). The order may further direct the parties to bear all expenses relating to alternative dispute resolution proceedings in such proportions as the Court finds appropriate, and may direct that portions thereof be allowed as an administrative expense entitled to priority in the case, but in no event should apportioning of costs constitute a penalty for failing to arrive at a settlement. The alternative dispute resolution proceeding shall begin at a date and time selected by the parties, subject to the schedule of the neutral or neutrals, but in no event later than forty-five (45) days after the entry of the order compelling participation in the proceeding.
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Party representatives with authority to negotiate a settlement and all other persons necessary to negotiate a settlement must attend and participate in good faith in the alternative dispute proceeding, subject to the Court's power to assess appropriate sanctions.
(d) SELECTION OF NEUTRAL
Upon entry of an order compelling participation in alternative dispute resolution, or upon agreement of the parties where they have not selected a neutral or neutrals from the roster, the Clerk shall forthwith furnish to each party a list of neutrals. If the compelled procedure is non-binding arbitration or moderated settlement conference, the list shall include five neutrals whose names have been selected from the roster of arbitrators maintained in the District Clerk's Office. If the compelled procedure is other than nonbinding arbitration or moderated settlement conference the list shall include three neutrals selected from general neutral roster. The parties shall then confer with each side entitled to strike one name from the three neutral list (two names from the five neutrals list). The person remaining shall be designated the neutral. The parties may by agreement reject the list furnished by the Clerk and instead unanimously select a neutral or neutrals from either roster. Failure of counsel to timely notify the Clerk of their strikes or selection shall result in the selection of the neutral or neutrals by the Clerk. The Clerk shall promptly notify the neutral or neutrals selected. If any person selected is unable or unwilling to serve the Clerk shall submit an additional list of names to the parties until a neutral or complete panel of neutrals is selected. When a neutral or full panel of neutrals have been selected and have agreed to serve, the Clerk shall promptly notify the neutral or neutrals and the parties of the selection. No person shall serve as a neutral if any of the circumstances specified in 28 U.S.C. § 455 of the Judicial Code of Conduct exist, or if the neutral believes in good faith that such circumstances exist. Any person whose name appears on the roster maintained in the Clerk's Office may ask at any time to have his or her name removed, or, if selected to serve in any case, decline to serve but remain on the roster.
Upon its own motion or upon motion and showing of good cause by any party, the Court may order appointment of a neutral or neutrals from outside the roster of qualified neutrals maintained by the Clerk's Office.
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Except as otherwise provided herein, a communication relating to the subject matter of any case under Title 11, contested matter or adversary proceeding made by a participant in an alternative dispute resolution procedure, whether before or after the institution of formal judicial proceedings, is confidential, is not subject to disclosure, and may not be used as evidence against the participant in any judicial or administrative proceeding.
(1) Any record made at an alternative dispute resolution procedure is confidential, and the participants or the third party neutral(s) facilitating the procedure may not testify, or be required to testify, in any proceedings relating to or arising out of the matter in dispute or be subject to process requiring the disclosure of confidential information or data relating to or arising out of the matter in dispute.
(2) An oral communication or written material used in or made a part of an alternative dispute resolution procedure is only admissible or discoverable if it is admissible or discoverable independent of the procedure.
(3) If this section conflicts with other legal requirements for disclosure of communications or materials, the issue of confidentiality may be presented to any Court having jurisdiction of the proceedings to determine, in camera, whether the facts, circumstances, and context of the communications or materials sought to be disclosed warrant a protective order of the Court or whether the communications or materials are subject to disclosure.
(f) SUMMARY TRIAL OR JURY TRIAL
In cases where other alternative dispute resolution procedures have proved unsuccessful and a complex and lengthy trial is anticipated, the Court may conduct a summary trial or jury trial, provided that the Court finds that a summary trial or jury trial may produce settlement of all or a significant part of the issues and thereby effect a saving in time, effort and expense for all concerned. The Court should develop procedures, which may include referral to one or more neutrals on the roster of arbitrators (for report and recommendation), for such summary trial or jury trial with the advice of counsel.
(g) REPORT
At the conclusion of each ADR proceeding, the neutral or panel of neutrals shall submit to the Court a notice of outcome, including the style and number of the case, the date(s) of the ADR proceeding, the names of the participants and only whether the case has settled or not.
(h) SANCTIONS
All sanctions available under FRCP 16(f), FRBP 7016 and/or any Local Rule or previous Order of the Court shall apply to any violation of this rule.
(i) COURT AUTHORIZATION NOT REQUIRED
Nothing in this rule should be interpreted as limiting parties' ability to agree to a form of alternative dispute resolution or the selection of a neutral without a court order, through mutual consent. In fact, consent is preferred.


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For the past two or three years, me and the two small people have enjoyed finding small toys and packing as many nice things we can find into a shoebox.
Why? Well, because every child deserves lots of nice things to open at Christmas, and a sparkly wrapped Christmas box full of goodies is one way of spreading a bit of cheer.
We usually start by buying things from around September onwards, things they like to play with in this house. Stuff like:
-bouncy balls
– felt tips
-writing paper to draw on
– sheets of stickers
-toy cars
-cuddly toys (ssh don't tell the eldest that I've let his cuddly toy obsession out – yes, he still loves all his teddies 🙂 )
-big box of sweets (always a winner)
We're finding it more of a challenge this year though as we've decided to do a girl box (previously we've always done a boy box.)
Challenge because with a house full of boys, I'm finding it a lot harder to imagine the kinds of things small girls would like to receive.
I'm used to boy toys!
So far we've got:
-The obligatory big box of sweeties to scoff
– felt tips
-little notepad
– a ball
– some toiletry type stuff like a face flannel
er, and that's about it.
There's still time to get cracking though, as boxes can be taken to your local drop off point between November the 1st and 18th.
Now I suppose I'd better get wrapping the box up in sparkly stuff and adding more lovely things to it….
If you want to know how to go about putting together your own Christmassy shoebox, visit the website here to find out suitable ideas of things to put in, and where your nearest drop off point is… ShoeBox Appeal
Or make one online if you want to get involved and make your own, but just don't have the time…. Shoebox World


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This chapter describes how the Trinidad infrastructure determines narrow screen support and how it uses EL expressions to expose user-agent details.
This chapter includes the following sections:
Section 7.2, "Determining User-Agent Capabilities Using EL Expressions"
Mobile devices have a wide range of screen widths. As a result, the UI components of a web application may render properly on a device with a screen width measuring 240 pixels, but not align correctly when the application runs on a device that has a screen width of only 100 pixels. In such a situation, Trinidad optimizes its rendering for narrow-screen devices. Trinidad considers any device with a screen width of less than 240 pixels as a narrow screen and optimizes the rendering for the following components accordingly:
Because Trinidad only considers a device with a screen width that measures less than 240 pixels as a narrow screen, it does not consider iPods (Safari browsers) or BlackBerry smartphones (BlackBerry browsers), which usually have screens that are greater than 240 pixels, as such. For a Windows Mobile browser, Trinidad determines the screen width from the UA-pixels request header and only applies narrow screen optimization if the screen-width is less than 240 pixels. For all other user agents, however, Trinidad optimizes its rendering for a narrow screen device.
Trinidad exposes a requesting user-agent's details to developers using the EL expression,
#{requestContext.agent}, which returns an
When Trinidad receives a request, it parses user-agent strings for a variety of user-agent details (listed in Table 7-1) that include type, the name and version of the agent, and the agent's platform name and platform version. Trinidad uses the EL expression
#{requestContext.agent.<detail-name>} to expose these details to developers. For example, to enable developers to retrieve the category appropriate to the user-agent type (that is, desktop for a desktop browser or PDA for mobile browsers), Trinidad uses the
type detail in the EL expression as follows:
Note:Trinidad may return a null value for such details as
PlatformVersion if it cannot parse them from the user-agent string.
Table 7-1 Browser Details Exposed through EL Expressions
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Identifies a user-agent type. For desktop and mobile browsers, the values are desktop and PDA, respectively. Because Safari provides all desktop browser features when it runs in a mobile device, the agent object exposes this detail as a desktop type.
The name of the agent
The version of the agent
The platform on which the agent runs
The version of the platform on which the agent runs
The model of the mobile device
Trinidad sends its response to a user-agent's request based on capabilities it assigns to a user agent. These capabilities include a user-agent's support for JavaScript and PPR. Some of these capabilities (listed in Table 7-2) are exposed to developers through the EL expression
Use the EL expression
#{requestContext.agent.capabilities.<capability-name>} to determine the specific capability assigned to a user-agent by Trinidad. For example, to determine whether Trinidad assigns JavaScript capability to a user agent, use the following EL expression:
# {requestContext.agent.capabilities.scriptingSpeed!='none'}
Table 7-2 Browser Capabilities Exposed through EL Expressions
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Indicates whether Trinidad optimizes is rendering for a narrow-screen device. It returns
Indicates JavaScript support for a user-agent. Returns
Indicates PPR support for a user-agent. Returns


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Advice: My kid doesn't care if we're late
Hi, Carolyn:
I have a 4-year-old, and our downfall is getting out the door in the morning. It is just so hard to get her moving, and she doesn't care if we are late for school and work; it's not a motivator for her.
I am not a big fan of rewards like a star chart/toy if you behave. I have tried to impress on her that we need to work together, and if you don't help out, privileges will be taken away. Some days it works, other days it doesn't. Is this just the price of being a busy family with too little time in the morning?
-- Morning Rush
You're not a fan of rewards, so you use punishment (privilege-docking) instead? That doesn't make sense to me, because I can't imagine you'd want others to punish you for mistakes instead of giving positive reinforcement (PR) for your accomplishments -- and you're an adult. A 4-year-old runs on and needs that approval so much more.
It can't be hollow praise, of course -- my pre-emptive strike against the self-esteem eye-rollers -- but it can include motivational PR, achievement-based PR and tangible rewards more meaningful than a sticker.
It would take me a long time to type out the various approaches people use effectively, so I'll suggest that you do one of two things:
(1) Read a how-to book on working at a child's level versus your own. The two recommended most often, in my experience, are "How to Talk So Kids Will Listen and Listen So Kids Will Talk" (Faber, Mazlish) and "Parenting With Love and Logic" (Cline, Fay).
(2) Take a few hours of personal leave and sit in on your daughter's school day. Teachers of young kids have some basic, remarkably effective techniques to keep the room from descending into chaos, and learning from the teacher will have the added benefit of bringing consistency to home and school.
Whichever you choose, also tweak your perspective and priorities. You need to get to work on time, yes, and mornings are difficult for most parents of small kids. However, it's hard to think of a 4-year-old who would care about getting anywhere "on time"; time is conceptual and small children are ruthless pragmatists. I suspect you'll find a solution when you learn to speak her language, instead of wanting/needing/expecting her to learn yours.
Hi, Carolyn:
My cousin is getting married in a city about six hours from my home. My boyfriend went to undergrad there and has a few friends in the area. Our plan is to make a long weekend out of it and see his friends on Friday and attend the wedding on Saturday.
My mother told me it was rude to see entirely different groups of people when in town for a wedding; that if we were planning to arrive early we should be spending the time with my family. Is our plan rude?
-- Wedding Weekend
Your mom is working from a playbook I've never seen -- unless it's the "You Need to Subscribe to My View of How the World Should Run" playbook. That one is pretty common.
If you aren't blowing off a rehearsal dinner, then I don't see how it's anyone's business where you spend your Friday.