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Movie Defense Force: Alien 3
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Oh dear, Jim. You did not just call Ripley's shoehorned dead daughter subplot from the Aliens director's cut a "good" character development, right?
That shit was adding an emotinal core were none was needed. The reason Ripley and Newt bonded the way they did is because they were both survivors of an Alien attack, not because Ripley saw in Newt her long lost shoehorned daughter. It was bullshit!
Can't comment on Alien 3 since it was years when I last saw it. But if you say the characters from Alien had no character or character development, it means you haven't been watching the movie or that the ability to detect subtlety in movies is completely gone from today's audience. I fear it's the latter.
And the worst thing to ever happen to the Alien was turning it into a space bug. Courtesy of James Cameron.
Alien3 is more like the original Alien IMO, more of a horror movie than Aliens, which let's face it, it's not a horror, it's an action movie.
But to say that Alien3 is better than Aliens, well WTF have you been smoking Jim!
Aliens is about the best sci-fi movie ever made, it's held in the same regard as Bladerunner, Star Wars, Robocop, Predator, Terminator - Alien3 is not.
I like all the Alien movies, even Ressurection, but Aliens transcends it's own genre and stands on it's own as a great movie, Alien also stands on it's own as a great movie, Alien3 relies on Alien and Aliens to make any sort of impact. Visually it's great (sans the ropey 90's CGI), but it doesn't do anything that Bladerunner, Aliens, Predator etc didn't already do better - if you think about gritty sci-fi, you think Bladerunner or Mad Max, the future scenes in Terminator - nobody really thinks of Alien3, mostly because the CGI lets it down so much.
The prisoners are basically just the marines from Aliens with social issues. Ripley has to gain their trust, has to be almost raped, has to see some of them die... these are necessary plot vehicles. The point of Alien3 isn't that criminals can change, can stop raping people, or that people can change in general, the point of the prisoners was just like any non-Ripley character in any Alien movie, to die, so that Ripleys survival counts for more. If your names not Ripley, your cannon fodder, whether you survive or not, Ripley is the constant - you think that if they made an Aliens4, Winona Ryder would be playing the part of her semi-adopted robot daughter?, you think she'd be hanging out with Ron Perlman?, making wise-cracks over breakfast about her acid blood and questionable genetic makeup? You shouldn't get so attached to disposable commodities - but in any case, most people can probably tell you their favorite Aliens marine, but then ask them who their favorite rapist was from Alien3.
Let's be honest though, Ridley Scott took a huge steaming dump on the whole Aliens and vs Predator franchise with Permetheus. God, I hope he doesn't do the same to Bladerunner.
I like the aliens trilogy its just people had a hard time to get along with a serise that went from horror to action and back to horror. I like them all as i do with the three predator films - not the AVP films they were pretty rubbish and retarded but otherwise agree and good going Jim nice to get your film opinion out through this show :P
To start, like the new show. Agree with whats already been posted that the whistling music in the background was a bit annoying, but it sounds like you are going to fix that. Looking forward to more as you bring up some interesting points. So with that taken care of, my retort.
The issues with the opening scene have already been covered so I will be brief, drowing in a tube isn't a peaceful death. Plus, the issue for me isn't so much that Hicks and Newt died, but that they were sort of just removed off screen. I realize getting actors back can be an issue, but that was sort of a big middle finger to the ending of Aliens. Getting the egg on the ship was beyond contrived as well as having her go off course yet arrive somewhere "safely" yet again.
Now, let's talk characterization. Yes Charle Dance's character was given a real arc, thats great, but that was about it. Dillon's character was pretty much the same from start to finish and, to me, not particularly interesting even though they were trying to bring up some deeper duality stuff. The rest of the cast may as well have been CGI, animatronics, or muppets for all they mattered to me. Whats even worse is that they looked so similarly that they were all but indistinguishable. Nothing more than fodder.
Compare that to the first two movies, where, as much as they may not have had the depth that Dance was given, I knew who every character was and to this day can name every crew member and every solider in those two movies. Each of those characters was more of a person with less screen time and development than nearly everyone in 3.
Now you can talk beatiful sets, I will point out that the cinemetography, lighting and sound in part 1 blew away 3. Watch the scene where Parker and Lambert get it and tell me there is any scene in part 3 with near that tension. I will give full props to the scene w/ Riply and the alien in her face, I think everyone recognizes that, but its not much more than a great still. Never once do I get moved in that movie like I do getting the first view of the eggs, or seeing Dallas swing the flame thrower back and forth in the vent shaft.
As for Aliens, its more action than thriller and that is where it shines. The pacing is spot on. It is textbook roller coaster. (On a side note, if you are going to include removed footage, the automated guns scene from Aliens director's cut is phenomenal and its too bad it was left out). Part 3 starts slow, stays slow, and simply never gets your heart pounding. Even the final "battle" goes on way too long and doesn't really feel like much is really happening. I mean its seriously like 20 minutes of monster-cam running down tunnels with the same door closing repeatedly and a couple more nameless dudes getting killed.
And, while it may not be the mark of a great movie, how many quotes have been taken from Aliens? Can you think of a single thing from part 3, the dying on your knees speech maybe, that has been quoted even half as much as the stuff from Aliens? Heck, I bet even the more mundane sutff like "I guess she don't like the cornbread either" has been quoted more.
Now, you are right that Alien3 really did try and take the story somewhere new and different. And kudos to it for that. As expressed it had a lasting impact on the lore. But that doesn't make the movie any good. It had interesting ideas, but were poorly implemented in a movie that was a real chore.
Sorry Jim but Alien 3 is alright at best, but not even in the same realm as Aliens. Your whole argument about the dialogue and writing in Alien 3 being the best is just absolutely absurd, there is a reason that there have spawned countless quotes from Aliens and not from the third movie because it was overall completely dull.
I personally love all the Alien movies (not the AVP movies, hell no!) and consider them the best Scifi movies period, but to say that Alien 3 is the strongest is just nonsensical. If this is going to be the essence of this new series just shitting on other movies as your best defense for bad movies, then I have pretty much lost interest already.
Good video. I've always said that Alien 3 is easily as good as the first two and it's nice to see so many with the same opinion.
I loved Alien 3 (albeit the Director's Cut) and never fully understood the stick it got from fans and critics alike. Alien Resurecction, however, I did.
But Aliens is by far the best film in the series and I dare say the entire frnachise, as each death was crushing and even when you believed the film was coming to a close, they go ahead and took away another character.
I never thought Alien 3 was bad, it was just kinda 'meh' nothing really new or astounding but it functions well as a movie.
I agree Master Sterling that it's better than most people give it credit, but the best in the series? I think you're pushing it there.
Now do Ang Lee's Hulk.
Jimmy boy, do Street Fighter the Movie. It is an awesome movie that is very funny.
I like the concept for this new series. Every enjoyable film doesn't have to be an Oscar winner so it's nice to have something on the Escapist that is almost a throw back to drive in B-movies. Films that aren't going to crack many best of list but still offer something up for the viewer.
Yea Aliens 3 biggest problem was having to be a follow up to Aliens. Just kind of hard to have such a big change in tone between two films. But on it's own and even with the host of problems caused by the studio Aliens 3 does have plenty to offer up as a movie.
The background music; MAKE IT STOP. Jesus, it's distracting.
I am still uncertain whether he's taking the piss or not.
Loved the video, though. Kudos!
It's like a backwards Confused Matthew. Great stuff!
There was nothing shoehorned about it. Ripley's entire character arc was built around Ripley regaining a lost child and becoming a mother again - the dead daughter works to that specific purpose, and makes perfect sense in the setting, tone and the story.
As for Alien, I disagree with Sterling's claim (and agree with yours) that they aren't developed characters. It's more that they are like normal people, each with distinctive personalities, but lacking the obvious distinguishing features that are exaggerated by most movies. It didn't have "the angry one, the fatherly one, the bookish one" or whatever, like most movies, it just had ordinary guys. It's a lot like The Thing in that regard; most of the personalities aren't spelt out, they're just hinted.
I didn't get too far due to the whistling, but I like the concept for this series.
I really did not like the intro: the sound was muddled, it was way too long. I suspect it will be pared down for subsequent episodes, and I suppose ultimately it's easy enough to skip.
Kind of funny how Jim says Alien 3 had developed characters when I thought exactly the opposite. I didn't know who any of the characters were because all of them were the bald British guy. There's a gag at the end where the guy who lived was the chap who earlier had stated that he'd made a deal with god that he would not die. I didn't get this gag when I had first seen it because none of the characters stood out because they were all the bald British guy. When someone died, I didn't care. Still don't.
I can see where he's going RE: the death of Newt, but I disagree. But then, I also hated the Special Edition of Aliens and though Ripley had a stronger bond with Newt without having lost a biological daughter than with. it was better that their bond was that they were both survivors of this alien threat and the motherhood theme worked more organically without that ham-fisted device. The death of Newt, and Hicks, I guess just does the otherwise triumphant ending of the previous movie. It's like how Exorcist II: the Heretic was laughed out of theaters because it simply did not fit with the previous film. Besides, having her die between films due to a cryopod malfunction or whatever is just cheap. I would have accepted it better if it wasn't so cheap, but it's goddamned cheap and that we waste a good chunk of the film with the autopsy was just shoving the cheapness into our face, rubbing our noses into the film's filthy, stained underpants. Remember this character you came to like in the previous movie? Well, fuck you. She'd dead. No, nothing special about it. She's just dead. Because we didn't feel like dealing with the character but for reasons of absolute stupidity we still needed Sigourney Weaver in this movie, we're just going to kill off these two other characters for no reason other than to use it as a reset button so we can have that character alone with a bunch of bald British rapists. And a token black guy. It was almost, but not quite, Highlander II as a sequel goes. Just sweeping portions of the previous film under the rug because they proved inconvenient to the story they wanted to tell. They could have just as easily avoided that by going much, much further into the future with Ripley doing the space trucker thing again, leaving Hicks and Newt back on Earth, like Jones. (Hey! The cat got to live. I guess the aliens don't always win. Eat it!) But it turns out her ship is transporting alien eggs and it crashes on a prison planet and she's the only survivor and there you go. But, no. For some stupid reason they felt the need to follow on directly from the previous movie and ruin that previous movie if you don't just ignore the third. Which I do.
Yeah. I just didn't get a feeling of threat from the alien over the death of Newt and Hicks. I got a feeling of pointlessness to even trying. A nadir and a malaise and other fancy words I'm likely misusing. It didn't ramp up the tension but defused all the tension because the monster is going to win no matter what (except for Ripley who always lives and still returned in the next, terrible movie). It's kind of funny how making the monster an insurmountable obstacle that cannot be escaped makes them a less credible threat. Aliens did this better where Ripley was plagued by nightmares back at Earth until she decided to go back to face the demons. Even when she was safe, they still haunted her. That's better at making the treat inescapable.
That all said, Alien 3 is the strongest of the not good Alien sequels. I had tagged the director as someone to watch in the future and I turned out to be right. Go me. It's watchable unlike Alien Resurrection which I can only recommend to Firefly fans and indecisive suicidals. Alien 3 competently made, competently shot. I just don't think it's a very good part of the franchise. It could have been better, though, which I doubt can be said of the Alien vs Predator movies.
One additional thing: how Alien 3 established some addition cannon to the xenomorph's life cycle, I honestly don't care about that. That's mostly been used in video games to give us different kinds of aliens to rest the cross-hairs upon, and the Aliens arcade game did that without this justification, so it wasn't necessary.
Pretty much, I can see someone liking Alien 3. I can respect someone for doing that while anyone who likes Alien Resurrection is obviously as sharp as a sack of wet mice. Alien 3 has things to like about it, but also much to not like about it. If it had managed to kill off Newt and Hicks and take me with it on that, it would have been a work of genius. It didn't, so it's not.
It was not in the original Aliens cut and it never felt like it was missing, because it was never supposed to be there. Nothing about Alien indicated that Ripley had a kid. And why would it? Why would a mother spend years upon years in space away from her daughter?
Also, in Alien Ripley was a notorious ice queen who was kinda reviled by the rest of the crew. Not really someone I see as a loving mother who yearns to be back with her daughter.
Again, the reason she bonded with Newt is because at that point Ripley was alone in her nightmares. Nobody else could understand or believe what she'd been through. When coming across Newt, who had suffered through the same experience, Ripley saw herself in her. And this is what triggered Ripley's response to want to protect her at all cost and conquer her own fears. That's what Aliens is about, not this dragged-in-by-the-hairs motherhood silliness.
I can't decide what to say first.
"Yay another Friday show!"
I guess I'll just say them in that order.
I actually don't remember a whole lot from Alien 3, except that I didn't think it was bad so much as wasted. I remember thinking the death of the survivors at the beginning of the movie not being a deal breaker, and the idea of being stuck on a prison planet being kind of interesting. But it didn't do anything interesting or scary with what it had apart from the ending. Then again my memory is kind of blurry, I'll probably give it another go someday in the future.
Directors cut = awesome. also, thank you. Alien 3 was good, but for those who want another look at it, try the directors cut.
Point well made on Alien 3, however since this is seeing the good in the bad, i therefore decide to set you a challenge.
Ghostbusters 2.
What kind of bullshit is this? You've seriously never heard of single parents spending time away from their kids in order to support them on the job? WTF? That's the life of half the people I know in real life. I understand if you've lived a sheltered, privilege life, but can you really refuse to believe that yours is the only way people live? And if you haven't lived a sheltered, privileged life, my WTF spirals into infinity.
That makes no goddamn sense. There's no garauntee that being a senior officer is worth a lot of money: do managers at McDonalds make bank? And second, if she's senior officer, she became so because she needed the money. Presumably to take care of her kid. Circular logic, meet circular logic.
Yes, because no mother in the history of mankind has ever been a hardass. And it wasn't like being a hardass mother isn't the theme of Aliens. Oh, wait.
And, frankly, Ripley wasn't an ice queen in Alien. That's just plain wrong. She was imminently practical and less emotional than the other woman onboard -- but, then again, that's because she handled the whole "alien rape-monster" thing with more aplomb.
If you can't see the themes of sexuality, rape, body horror, and above all motherhood in set of movies where the most powerful single entity in Alien (the ship itself) is called MOTHER, where the most locally dangerous antagonist in the second film is a QUEEN, and where the drive of the main opponents is REPRODUCTION, than I can only simply reiterate the WTF issued above with all the force that sane humankind can muster behind it.
Jim gets everything that matters wrong here. The failure here is built around an empirically, not aesthetically, wrong assumption he made about Alien and Aliens:
The xenomorphs aren't the bad guys. They aren't even important in the long run for the humans. That's why they're wonderful.
The Company is the bad guy.
The first two films are, effectively, about the Company, a faceless, cowardly authority, screwing over innocent people for a bit of market share. The xenomorphs themselves are terrible monsters precisely because of how normally non-threatening they'd be. They're nonsentient beasts. They're bugs. You can just fucking shoot them and they die. You can blow them up easily. Any amount of preparation with modern technology completely eliminates their threat.
Unless your commanding authorities fuck you solid.
The xenomorphs have, one, and only one, virtue, over the humans attempting to survive them: loyalty. And because of that one virtue, they are scary, scary monsters.
(In the first film, the android expresses this as purity, calling the organism "perfect." Since there was only one mobile xenomorph on the ship at one time, loyalty isn't as evident, but if you include the deleted scene, you can see how "loyalty" and "purity" are essentially the same thing: for a bug, there is no other mission than to serve the species, no other purpose.)
Here is the most important line in the Aliens franchise:
And what's the situation in that quote? Not only are the protagonists trying to survive an attack by space fire ants, they are trying to find a way to defeat the true villain: the Company. Ripley insists on bringing Burke back for just that reason. And they fail. The officials behind the LV-426 fiasco, hiding behind Weyland-Yutani's power and influence, get away with everything.
Jim says something empirically untrue. He says the xenomorphs always win. Bullshit. The bugs fucking die. They're fucking bugs. The first bug wanted to reproduce. (Check out the deleted scene of Alien that would have made the Queen of Aliens redundant.) It died. It failed. The second bugs. . . wanted to reproduce. They died. They failed. The brief, initial successes of the bugs in both films notwithstanding, none of them set up long-term colonies.
Jim said the Aliens always win. Completely wrong: They always fucking lose. But that doesn't matter because, well, they're bugs. They don't notice. There's always more bugs. Who cares? I destroyed an ant nest when I was five. What did I accomplish? Ants lived on and I got stung.
In the first two -- that is, the only two good -- films of the franchise, the Company always wins.
And the notion that the Company is the main antagonist pans out precisely because of the secondary status of the aliens from the perspective of powerful actors in the narrative. The first film is, essentially, about space rape. It was a clever way at putting body horror and out-of-control sexuality front and center in one of the nastiest non-metaphors in cinematic history. So where's the Company in all this? It's the voyeur, paying top dollar for a horrid snuff film. Even within this narrative, the Company is front and center as the bad guy; the alien is just the bagman, a drone in every sense of the word.
In the sequel, the protagonists are in Super Vietnam 2: Space Frag. The Company takes on the role of the U.S. government in this mess even though we have actual, traditional marines from a U.S.-like authority in the film. This presents no dichotomy because we accept a lil' bit of fascism as normal: government interests equal corporate interests? Business As Usual. The vastly different immediate narratives of both films embrace the meta-narrative of the Company as the Ultimate Betrayer without any contradictions whatsoever.
Which brings us to why Alien 3 was shit. Alien 3 was the epitome of the empty arthouse piece, a film that thinks that if it shoves enough imagery and buzzwords and tropes up the narrative turkey that the result will be a wonderful thanksgiving dinner of meaning as opposed to a vomitous turducken of bullshit. In contrast to Jim's claim that the characters in Alien 3 were memorable and significant, I couldn't remember the names of ANY of the characters from that film that weren't in previous ones. (This is the first time in years I've heard the names of these characters -- but I remembered Apone's name after Aliens immediately.) They were a series of played-out, unrealistic cliches -- religious asshole, sympathetic love-interest, obvious first monster victim, and other hack-screenwriter categories. They were cardboard cutouts, unrealized and unimportant: the important thing was that you be impressed with the screenwriters masturbation session and feel moved by the impressive number of ham-fisted cliches that were being tossed at you.
In fact, I think that was the point. I think I was SUPPOSED to forget these characters and their names. I was supposed to be impressed by how meaningful they were. Ripley is Christlike!!!! See how she has her arms!!!! This was cloying, mugging the audience, the film version of "We've played a lot of shows on this tour, but nobody rocks like [Insert Your Town Here] does!" Lookie, I saw a Christ-figure, aren't I clever, this movie is deeeeeeep!!!
I didn't care about a single death in Alien 3, and I don't think the film minded. I was supposed to herp-derp to the religious theme -- there was no "subtext," it was shoved in your face -- and the actual narrative was a detail.
Indeed, the characters of the first two films were far more realized precisely because they weren't in bullshit setpieces designed to spew poorly-conceived mysticism. They felt heavier and more real because their environments were more real. They weren't exaggerated cliches, they were just normal people (a point made by maninahat, above)
The clincher is this: I can find Alien and Aliens in the real world, right now:
Deepwater Horizon.
The Gulf Oil Spill involved the murder of several workers. Not tragic death: murder. Long story short: the oil company knew that doing the op on the cheap could lead fatal accidents and didn't care. That's negligent homicide, a.k.a. murder in any U.S. jurisdiction. Will there be prosecutions? Fuck no. Will the company pay even a significant percentage of the compensation deserved? Fuck no. What about the environmental dama -- ahahahahahaha Fuck No. The Company wins.
The Company Always Wins. Fuck you forever and ever, you don't have the juice, you lose.
Aliens resonates because that's literally how the world works. We are tricked into accepting FTL travel and biophysically impossible organisms because, holy shit, that's how human society works now.
Alien 3 is a fucking fever dream that relates to the real world in the exact same way that Naked Lunch relates to Xerox repair. It's self-indulgent bullshit with a xenomorph in it. Were there not a xenomorph in it, it wouldn't get the time of day. We'd ignore it and move on.
The protagonists of the first film weren't space truckers. They were space oil refiners. We can relate to that. That's a "real" job. The protagonists of the second film were space marines. There's a real thing called a marine -- again, there's some grounding. The third film features silly parodies of religious fanatics (which are nasty and complex enough and real life to warrant serious treatment) that we're supposed to pretend are deep and complex, even though they contradict how people actually fucking work at several levels. And there's a bug in it. Weee.
Alien 3 is about basically nothing. It relates to nothing, it tells us nothing. That's why it's rightly panned.
And btw:
SPOILER WARNING (though if you haven't seen Aliens yet, WTF?)
° Hicks isn't meant to be that important in Aliens. Sure he's dull compared to Ripley, but who fucking isn't? Hudson and Vasquez and even fucking Goreman are more compelling because they have a bigger character arc -- and then they fucking die (there's your spoiled material). That's meant to be painful. It is. Hicks dying wouldn't have had nearly as much resonance because he was a Fairly Decent Fellow throughout: he lacks improvement so his death is less tragic. Thus, he doesn't die. Moral: Space Vietnam Sucks.
° Ripley becomes the surviving protagonist at the last minute precisely because that was an interesting narrative twist for the time. A horror-rape movie where the men die and the only survivor is the strong, smart female who was right-about-everything-but-not-an-asshole-about-it was basically completely fucking unique. Many of us have Alien committed to memory now, but for 1979, that was brand freakn' new, a shocking twist.)
° The xenomorph lifecycle change in Alien 3 wasn't made to make it interesting, it was made in order to shove the alien into the film. Period. Other writers came along and rolled with it. For a BETTER example of how this is done, the alien lifecycle in Alien was completely retooled in Aliens. Again: Alien deleted scene. Originally, the xenomorph sting slowly transformed you into an egg (which produced a facehugger, etc.). In the deleted scene, Ripley finds the crew transforming into eggs and flames them. The original concept of the xenomorph was to make it into a space wasp: it makes eggs and then croaks. Do you know why the xenomorph was in the shuttle at the end? It had crawled there to die.
Aliens scrapped that because it needed space vietnam which means lots of bugs. And that's fine; the scene was deleted, anyway, so we can roll with that. The change in lifecycle continued the exploration of body-horror and motherhood of the first film: both Ripley and the Queen are just looking out for their kids. Again, the xenomorphs aren't the bad guys. The Queen dies because Ripley is the more badass mom, not because Ripley is righteous. Fuck righteousness: the Company Always wins. That's the horror of Alien and Aliens.
The lifecycle changes in Alien 3 were effectively self-indulgent because they carried none of the themes of the first two films forward when making the change. It was meant to be vaguely evocative, nothing more. And nothing was exactly what it achieved.
° Hicks and Newt aren't in Aliens 3 because their actors refused to be in the movie: Michael Bein was promised a bigger role and then had the rug pulled out under him, so, rather than be diminished to being a cameo, he pulled out. They changed the script as a result. Had the script been, well, about something, this would have been fatal. As it stands, a conceptual empty narrative can handle infinite character changes, so, no loss. Thus, Newt's death is also empty and pointless. There's nothing to it. They wanted to cash in on a third movie, the original actress wasn't going to be around, so fuck it, kill her, move on. There's nothing deep about it: it was an economic decision.
The series was not about "loss." The xenomorphs didn't take shit from Ripley: the Company did. The xenomorphs are bugs. If termites infest my house because the exterminator only pretends to spray pesticide, I don't shake my fist at the termites, I sue that fucking exterminator. In Alien 3, the bug wins because the screeenwriter fucking hates you. No logic, no reason. It's anime logic: this dangerous animal that's less threatening than the original Alien kills everyone Just Because. Aren't you impressed by our theme!!????!?!?!
Alien 3 wasn't brave: it was a cheap cash-in, a Rorschach blot that hopes that if you push enough of your own hopes for a better film into it it can squeak by with terrible plots and horrible, unrealized characters.
Edit: Paxton != Bein
You don't have to defend 3 to me.
Okay, speaking for Jim's new series, I like this idea...though if the opening is an indication of what movies we can expect to be on in the future, i'm really curious how he's gonna defend somthing like Hellraiser 3.
My suggestion for future episodes...
Let MovieBob do it.
The end.
Yes, I can see that. So I don't need some long lost daughter nonsense shoved in my face to emphisize what is already perfectly clear. This was not in the original cut and it was better for it.
That "Your daughter whom we've never heard of is dead" scene was as pointless as the scene where Newt's family goes out to the Derelict (What a coincedence!!!). But then both the Alien and Aliens director's cut suck.
And by the way, I fucking hated how Cameron turned the Alien into cannon fodder space bugs. That includes the queen.
Jim Sterling, I may not agree with you about this being the best of the franchise, but I do agree it is a damn fine movie; I've always liked it. The first movie had a sci-fi vibe to it, while the second had this summer-movie action-adventure thing going. The third installment was just so serious, and dark. It was like a genuine horror movie. I think it certainly deserves it's place among the others, unlike it's younger brother...
I am very excited to see what movies you do next!
Good stuff. Really interested to see what other movies you do.
Honestly, I didn't see why Alien 3 needed a defense at all. It's a great movie and revitalizes the fear of one creature being the source of death and gore. Try to defend Star Wars Episode I,II, or III if you want a lost cause, uphill battle, or something impossible to do with your time.
A few people have said it, and add me to the list; the fundamental problem with the defence of the movie is that it's predicated on a false notion. The Alien does not always win. Show me which Alien movie has all the humans dead at the end and a Xenomorph roaring at the sky like a T-Rex out of Jurassic Park and I'll buy your argument, but until then it's bogus. Ripley survives. Ripley, Hicks, Newt and the important parts of Bishop survive. Morse survives. Ripley and Call and that bloke in the chair played by the dude who was in Amelie survive. Humans and androids 4, Xenomorphs 0. "Whoever wins, we lose"? Bull. Shit. However bad shit gets, we come through.
As for characterisation... look, the first movie was a haunted house film in space, and they're always about the horror and the monster. The second film was a Vietnam film in space, and they're always(ish) about the unit and the action. The third film is a prison film in space, and they're always about characters. Of course the characterisation was a bit better, the setting lent itself to it. (The fourth film had no idea what it was, which is why it's a bit pants.)
I think my biggest problem with 3 is that at its heart is a brilliant and interesting idea - that of taking a group of murderers and rapists and throwing in the Alien, which is basically a better* murderer and rapist - and yet it abjectly fails at any point to even address that duality. If we had some hint about how each of the prisoners became who they were, what drove them to become the rapists and murders that got them sent to Fiorina 161 rather than just "they're more manly men" - the only possible interpretation of the biologically shit double-Y chromosome idea - , then there'd have been some reference point for the comparative lack of such story about the Alien. If they'd had a prisoner be on the receiving end of a face hugger (rather than a dog or an ox, which - lame, even if I concede the Runner-type Alien and the circumstances that birthed it are an interesting addition to the mythos), it could have brought some pathos to the aggressors in the attempted rape of Ripley and the prisoners' own violent sexual pasts while reinforcing the sexual imagery that has always surrounded the Alien creature.
And so on. We got none of that. Boo and I say Hiss.
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I'll respond to the three points of this Defense that held no water for me just summarizing them as I remember. I might have to watch the directors cut someday... I still dislike this movie from an opening day viewing after standing in a long line... so maybe I'm a bit dank on it.
-The only developed character in a movie filled with a ton of gritty bald guys in dank clothing got killed by the Dogien just when he got interesting - that makes the dogien real because now all the people you couldn't give a s--- about might die.
-The bad movie has a lot of dank sets and other both bad and good movies will start having a lot of dank sets so therefore this is a good movie because it was the first to be dank during a decade of fewer dank sets. Dank you.
-Killing off Newt's screaming and Hudson's sturdy-soldier foil to Ripley in the start is a great way to die versus all the other ways to die and there's no more meaningful way these characters could have died to possibly give the story more meaning than a 30s prologue scene. They both meant something to Ripley so really... noone could have possibly worked them in anywhere in any sort of story to have greater impact than a prologue death. Impossible. I mean you might recognize them as some sort of separate character from the 30 bald drab prisoner set. That would really suck to have different characters in a movie. Killing the character off "nicely" might be nice for the character. Killing the character off with some impact might make a better movie. Which of those seems more important when writing a screenplay?
Well for me I haven't watched any of the alien films; I might of but not for a long while. I can see that alien 3 could be good, however. I can't really agree of the aliens win in the end, after all that effects of the last 2 films.
What if say in mass effect, the reapers have won, after hearing countless of times how they are unstoppable and then the reapers win in mass effect 3. You could have that ending and have it as a sad, bleak, tragic, depressing yet beautiful and moving ending, but you know what? I would still prefer seeing commander shepherd and the others stop them winning. It would be darn pointless and spiritless, having all the hope and positive chance just die out. what would the point be of the survival, what's the point knowing the characters, get to like them, then they get killed off while the big threat wins, what's the point having that sense of hopeful chance as we see nearly all characters try to find a way to shopping them. It would been a more powerful if the threat did wipe out galactic civilization (like most humans in alien 3), however It wouldn't leave me feel good after playing/seeing to that ending.
I shouldn't really talk much about this film as I haven't seen alien 3 for a long while, but what I'm saying is that I would watch the last 2 films, then see the third film, as I'll watch the fear and the action but not the despair.
Well reviewed by the way Jim. Looking forward to see what other films you have to say about.
I don't completely agree with you, but I do agree that using Newt's family was a (very) bad idea and that showing LV-426 before the Sulaco arrived is a VERY bad idea for both pacing and impact reasons -- my God, the arrival scene still resonates with me today. Hell, the first view of the Hadley's Hope colony in Aliens vs. Predator (the original PC game) is still amazing because it evokes that same sense of dread and horrible build-up. Seeing the colony occupied and vibrant before the arrival detracts from that. I enjoyed that scene, actually -- it's well-acted -- and it's harmless for someone who's seen the movie a dozen times before, but it shouldn't be there.
TBH, the xenomorphs would end up being cannon-fodder in the face of human (or other sentient) military. I can understand your complaint, but if Cameron had made the xenomorphs individualistic and clever enough to avoid being bugs, well, that wouldn't have been Vietnam, that would have been weird. Maybe not bad, though. And, like it or not, the original alien was based off of the life cycle of (mistaken spider, actually ichneumon) wasps. They were Interstellar Dickwasps from jump; Cameron didn't add that.
I'm not saying Aliens is a bad movie, as a matter of fact it does what any good sequel should do; Take the original concept in a new direction. But I didn't much care for that direction.
What I loved so much about Alien is that everything felt trully... alien. Everything from the Derelict, to the Space Jockey, to the Alien itself was unlike anything you'd ever seen. All of it felt like it came from the farthest and darkest reaches of space. That moment you see Kane, Dallas, and Lambert come across the Space Jockey, you can't help but feel captivated by this tremendous sense of Lovecraftian dread. At least, I did. Making a direct link to hive insects felt like a detriment to that.
I guess I also much prefered the nightmarish setting of the first movie. Because in many ways it's kind of structured like a dream/nightmare; You never see where the crew comes from or where they're going. you hear it, but you never actually see them leave or arrive. Just as in a dream you always just start off somewhere without really knowing how you even got there, and that arriving where you want to go somehow never works. And then ofcourse the Alien itself wich is practically undefeatable, just as something in your nightmare is undefeatable simply because of the fear you have for it.
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DRAFT: This section is devoted to identifying trends relevant to careers in academic librarianship. While the section is largely focused on issues and resources relevant to early career librarians, those in hiring/management positions and other interested parties will find the information included here helpful as it underscores issues related to career development encountered by most academic librarians at some point in their careers.
Specific Issues
Shortage of Librarians
- Anthony, Paul L. and Jill A. Garbs (2005). A Scarce Resource? A Study of Academic Cataloger Recruitment. Cataloging & Classification Quarterly, 41(1): 45-62.
- Hewitt, Joe A., Barbara B. Moran, and Mari E. Marsh. "Finding Our Replacements: One Institution's Approach to Recruiting Academic Librarians." (2003) portal: Libraries and the Academy. 3.2: 179-189.
Generational Issues
- Arsenault, Paul M. "Validating generational differences: A legitimate diversity and leadership issue." (Mar 2004) Leadership & Organization Development Journal 25.2 p. 124-141. Accessed via Emerald.
- Davis, Kate. (Dec 2006) whY Generation: the Millennial Librarian, of the Future of Library Management. Pathways and Possibilities Conference.
- Lenzini, Rebecca T. (July/August 2002) The Graying of the Library Profession: A Survey of Our Professional Association and Their Responses. Searcher v 10 n7.
- Mosley, Pixey Anne. (2002) "Shedding the Stereotypes: Librarians in the 21st Century." Reference Librarian, n78 p167-76.
- Pankl, Robert R. (2004) "Baby Boom Generation Librarians." Library Management, v 25 n4/5 p 215-222.
- Schulman, Sarah. (2007) "Crossing the generational divide: engaging "young" employees in your organization." Development and Learning in Organizations, 21.2, p7-9. Accessed via Emerald.
- Singer Gordon, Rachel. (2006) The NextGen Librarian's Survival Guide. Medford, NJ: Information Today, Inc. 208p. ISBN 1-57387-256-3
Is the MLIS Necessary?
- Knowlton, Sean Patrick and Becky Imamoto. (2006). Recruiting Non-MLS Graduate Students to Academic Librarianship. College & Research Libraries, 67(6): 561-570.
- Miller, Lisa K. (2006) On My Mind: A Fight to Our Death. American Libraries, 37(4): 27.
- Henriques, Paul. (2006) What's Wrong with LIS?. Library Journal, 131(20): 84.
- Oder, Norman. (2003). New Movement for Ph.D.'s To Work in Academic Libraries. Library Journal, 128(11): 16-17.
- Berry III, John N. (2003). But Don't Call 'em "Librarians". Library Journal, 128(18): 34-36.
The value of advanced subject degree(s)
- Jones, Phillip J.; Mitchell, W. Bede; Major, Jean A. (1998) Academic graduate work in academic librarianship: Historicizing ACRL's terminal degree statement. Journal of Academic Librarianship, 24(6): 437-448.
- Mayer, Jennifer and Lori J. Terrill. (2005).Academic Librarians' Attitudes about Advanced-Subject Degrees. College & Research Libraries, 66(1): 59-73.
Academic Librarians and faculty status
- Henry, Elizabeth C. and Dana M. Caudle. (1994). Tenure and Turnover in Academic Libraries. College & Research Libraries, 55(5): 429-435.
- Weaver-Meyers, Pat. (2002). Conflict Resolution: A Case Study about Academic Librarians and Faculty Status. College & Research Libraries, 63(1): 25-34.
- Welch, Jeanie M.and Frada L. Mozenter. (2006). Loosening the Ties that Bind: Academic Librarians and Tenure. College & Research Libraries, 67(2): 164-176.
- Cary, Shannon. (2001). Faculty rank, status, and tenure for librarians. College & Research Libraries News, 62(5): 510
New Librarians and Management
- Matheson, Heather (2007). Promoting (for) Change: New Academic Librarians in Managerial Roles. Feliciter, 53(2): 70-72.
- Gordon, Rachel Singer (2004). Move Mountains. Library Journal, 129(15): 42.
- Gordon, Rachel Singer. The Accidental Library Manager. Medford, NJ: Information Today, Inc., 2005.

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Serve this hearty and flavorful dish with plenty of bread on the side. Diners will want to finish every last drop.
2 cups onions, chopped
1 cup celery, chopped
1 cup carrots, chopped
1 tbsp. garlic, minced
2 tbsp. basil
2 tbsp. rosemary
Olive oil, as needed
1⁄3 cup white wine
2 cups tomatoes, chopped
6 cups stock
2 cups dried beans, cooked
8 cups Swiss chard, roughly chopped
Sliced peasant bread, toasted or grilled
Pesto, as needed
Shaved parmesan, for garnish
1. In a large stock pot over medium-high heat, sauté onions, celery and carrots in oil until translucent. Add garlic, herbs and wine and reduce. Add tomatoes and stock and bring to a simmer. Cook until vegetables are tender.
2. Add beans and chard and season to taste.
3. Serve with toasted peasant bread, a dollop of pesto and garnish with shaved parmesan.


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ANA PADILLA necesitaba un nuevo diseño de logotipo y lanzó un concurso de diseño en 99designs.
Un ganador ha sido elegido entre 79 diseños de 18 diseñadores freelance.
I´m a Profesional Photographer from Mexico City. I specially take pictures of children, families weddings and I also sell separetly artistic pictures. I´m starting to get my picutres to be shown in galeries. I´m very carismatic, funny and love to laugh all the time. I like my things to be different from everybody else. You can go to my web page and see some of my work http://www.anapadillaphoto.com I want a logo that can go with all the things I do in photography, weddings, kids, artisitc.... Right now I have 1 web site but I'm working on a new one to separate the artistic pictures from the ones of wedding, families and kids. I would love something cachie, new, modern and classic and that people will remeber. I want a logo that can represent the 3 diferente photographies I do.
My target are people who are in the art business, people who work at galleries. Brides and people who are getting married and also mom's that would like pictures of their kids.
I would like color and specially something modern but that at the same time is classic as well.
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Linglestown Giant opens beer garden, eatery
Cumberland County-based Giant Food Stores today said it is opening a beer garden and eatery at its Linglestown Road store in Dauphin County.
The Giant at 2300 Linglestown Road was recently remodeled to include the beer garden and eatery after the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board granted a restaurant liquor license to the store in May.
The grocery chain said the beer garden will offer its largest selection of domestic and import beers, including craft and specialty items. Customers will also be able to "mix-a-six" or create their own six packs, Giant said.
The eatery also will include a variety of foods, including sandwiches, pizza, Chinese food, sushi, desserts and non-alcoholic beverages. The beer garden and eatery will be open 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Saturday, and 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. Sunday.
Giant Food Stores are a chain of Middlesex Township-based Ahold USA, a division of Netherlands-based grocer Royal Ahold.


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Smoking stove leads Mass. cops to woman, who dies
March 10, 2013
LOWELL, Mass. (AP) — Prosecutors say Massachusetts rescuers responding to a report of a smoking stove found an injured woman, who later died at a hospital.
The Middlesex District Attorney's office says Lowell authorities responded to a report of an apartment fire Saturday morning. When they arrived, they found smoke emanating from the stove and a woman nearby with many injuries.
She was pronounced dead at Lowell General Hospital. Authorities are calling her death suspicious.
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Indie Burger
1034 W. Belmont Ave. 773-857-7777
Rating: !! (out of 4)
Despite this sudden hipness of handlebar mustaches, The Great Burgerelli has never been one of the cool kids. At Indie Burger, a new counter-service eatery in Lakeview, indie rock and independent business practices intersect in the realm of hamburgers. While fellow burger lovers perused the concert posters on the wall and read up about the restaurant's organic commitment, I set my sights on the burgers themselves.
The burger: A third-pound patty is, indeed, made with organic beef, and in this case, the quality of the meat is discernible. Properly seasoned and cooked through, the burger retains its juiciness but does not veer into treacherous greasy territory. After a few bites of this premium patty, I'm beginning to see that the grass-fed fuss isn't just a marketing tactic.
The bun: Baked locally by those tattooed ruffians at Bleeding Heart, the plump, golden bun is unlike most I have encountered. It is indeed fluffy, but somehow still stands up to the juicy patty and plentiful toppings. A lighty buttered and toasted underside helps it stay intact from first to final bite.
The fixings: The regular cheeseburger ($7.99) arrives with a colorful collage of ingredients. Vibrant green lettuce, onion, ketchup, crunchy crinkle-cut pickles, aioli and one's choice of cheese align harmoniously while still retaining their distinct flavors. The signature Indie burger ($7.99), however, is a rather unappealing muddle of brownish toppings, including an indistinguishable horseradish-chipotle "Indie Sauce," which coats a heap of over-grilled onions and swiss cheese. Although I fail to fathom how any of the patrons clad in skinny jeans could squeeze in extra meatiness, beef bacon can be added for an additional $1.99.
Everything else: The Great Burgerelli does indeed appreciate good onion rings as an alternative to traditional french fries, but the tempura batter on these specimens ($3.50) is disappointingly doughy and under-seasoned. I strongly suggest ordering a small order of the standard, thick-cut fries ($2.50), which leaves just enough room for a birch beer float ($4.99) made with a pinkish, fizzy soda that seems to me a novel hybrid of root beer and cream soda.
Bottom line: Some of Indie Burger's so-called indie choices—such as using organic beef and partnering with Bleeding Heart for the buns—do, in fact, rock. Others, like the squishy onion rings and messy Indie Burger toppings, hit a sour note.
The Great Burgerelli is a fearless seeker of fine burgers. Send him ideas for his next burger adventure at email@example.com.


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Some straight talk about cherry and blotching.
By Bob Flexner
Pages: 70-72
From the February 2009 issue #174
Buy this issue now
When I opened my furniture-making and restoration shop in 1976, the woods considered best for high-end furniture were walnut and mahogany. Of course, oak and maple were also used, and sometimes cherry.
As had been the case through the previous three centuries, cherry was still thought of as the poor man's substitute for mahogany. The coloring is similar, but mahogany had always been considered the higher quality wood. A large part of the reason is that mahogany colors evenly and cherry blotches.
Blotching is uneven coloring caused especially by stain penetrating deeper in some areas and leaving more color when the excess stain is wiped off the surface.
Times have changed, and cherry is now the favored wood with a great many woodworkers. Mahogany is hardly even considered for use anymore, and neither is walnut very popular. But cherry still has the blotching problem and everyone wants to know how to deal with it.
The Solution Problem
Magazine editors like to please their readers, so you see lots of articles addressing the question of how to avoid blotching in cherry.
The method for reducing blotching under a stain is widely understood. Simply apply a washcoat before applying the stain. A washcoat is any finish thinned to about 10 percent solids: that is, varnish thinned with about two parts paint thinner, shellac thinned to a 3⁄4 pound cut, or lacquer thinned with about 11⁄2 parts lacquer thinner.
Once you have allowed the washcoat to dry thoroughly (especially critical when using a slow-drying varnish washcoat commonly sold as "wood conditioner"), a stain penetrates very little so blotching is reduced. Less penetration limits the darkening of the wood, however, so there's a trade off. Staining is less effective.
But cherry blotches even without a stain. All clear finishes (even shellac, which is often promoted as an exception) blotch cherry and, of course, so does a washcoat. It seems there's no way to totally avoid the blotching.
This hasn't, however, stopped magazines over the years from keeping the possibility alive, hinting that there might be a secret method somewhere.
Not Always
One of the joys of woodworking is that we get to work with so many different woods, each of which has its own special characteristics – some of which we like and some we don't. Cherry machines very nicely and has an especially pleasant aroma, but it blotches.
At least it usually blotches. Just as with pine and birch, which are also notorious for blotching, the blotching in cherry and whether it looks nice or not depends on the particular board. Some boards blotch in a particularly ugly way. Some blotch in a beautiful way – often referred to as curly or mottled. And some don't blotch at all.
Unfortunately, no wood supplier grades cherry (or any other wood for that matter) by its blotching characteristics (though veneers are graded for curly and mottled). Wood suppliers grade wood for the number and size of its knots.
So you have to figure out for yourself how the cherry you are using will finish. This is much easier to do with surfaced cherry than with rough lumber.
With both situations, the easiest way to see how a finish will look on the wood is to wet the wood. Wetting gives almost the same appearance as a finish does, the difference being that the wetting evaporates and a finish turns to a solid making the coloring permanent.
You can use any liquid, but non-grain-raising liquids such as mineral spirits, alcohol and lacquer thinner are usually best, especially on surfaced wood.


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An Original Six Showdown
Jun 11th
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By Jonah Levitan aka Satan81
So, it comes down to the final. Where two teams compete in a best of seven series to be able to claim the silver chalice inspired by Lord Stanley himself, Lord Stanley's Cup.
Boston fought their way through a nerve-racking series against the Maple Leafs, potentially embarrassed Lundqvist and the Rangers, and shocked everyone by sweeping the top seeded Penguins.
The Chicago Blackhawks went though the Wild, overtime with the Wings with kudos to Brent Seabrook, and off of Patrick Kane's hat trick, eliminated the defending Stanley Cup champions in the LA Kings, and moved to the finals.
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From May through October, Pioneer Airport gives visitors a unique "living history" re-creation of what airports were like during the early days of air travel. It brings back a time when the magic of flying astounded and charmed the whole world.
Enjoy discounted group rates for adults, seniors, and children. Group tour pricing can be extended to groups of 10 or more. For student groups, 1 chaperone/teacher for every 8 children/students is free.
The Eagle Hangar is a hall of honor dedicated to the memory of those who served during World War II. The airplanes include examples of Allied fighters, bombers, liaison aircraft, trainers, Army and Navy aircraft, plus examples from Germany and Japan.
Aviation is a fun, exciting, and stimulating subject, making the EAA AirVenture Museum an ideal environment for learning! Our school programs are each intended for a range of student ages and group sizes.
With more than 1,600 acres and 26 venues to choose from, we are sure to show you a space that will make your vision come to life. Our unique atmosphere is sure to offer a one-of-a-kind experience for your guests.
Ever wondered what your neighborhood looks like from the sky? If you're nodding your head "Yes" and are between the ages of 8 and 17, you're ready to take a free Young Eagles flight from EAA's Pioneer Airport and see what real pilots do on the ground and in the air.
In many ways, the Curtiss Jenny could be considered the Model T of the skies. Roughly a contemporary of Ford's famous auto, the Jenny would eventually help to establish the practical reality of American aviation.
Climb into the airplanes in our museum virtually to see what it is like to be in the pilot's seat!
The EAA library's photographic collection has something for everyone. Beginning with the Wright Brothers and continuing into the space age, the photo archives are an invaluable resource. The photo archive has more than 100,000 images of aircraft and the people that made them famous.
Established to preserve EAA's history and culture, the Founders Wing showcases Paul and Audrey Poberezny's personal collection of letters, pictures, artifacts, media clippings, and so much more.
Aviation's history is made up of many remarkable people, from the best-known aviation personalities to those who contributed to the development of aviation in their communities. Search database for hundreds of aviators sharing their personal stories.
Add to EAA's diverse aircraft collection for aviation enthusiasts to enjoy! EAA AirVenture Museum follows a set of procedures to assess airplanes that are offered as donations to our collection.
More than 30 pieces of nose art from actual WWII combat aircraft are making their first-ever trip outside their home museum to EAA.
The North American P-51 Mustang was the most successful, most versatile fighter of World War II (1939-1945). Designed in 1940 for Britain, the first prototype XP-51 was finished in just 117 days. The Allison-powered P-51A was dubbed "Mustang, Mk. 1" by the British and first deployed in tactical reconnaissance in the spring of 1942.
The full-size replica of the Wright brothers' historic 1903 "Flyer" - the first true airplane - is a centerpiece in the EAA AirVenture Museum's collection. It stands as a tribute to the birth of aviation and to the accomplishments of Wilbur and Orville Wright and their mechanic, Charlie Taylor.
Steve Wittman designed and built Buttercup in 1938 and, over the years, it has featured a variety of innovations including - tapered rod landing gear, variable camber wings with full span leading edge and slotted trailing edge flaps.
Paul Poberezny first penciled a sketch of the Pober Sport during the summer of 1956. With a little help from his wife and brother, Paul began building the Sport with a Baby Ace fuselage and J-3 landing gear. Other EAA members pitched in to help Paul build his latest aircraft.
The exhibit uses dramatic sound and lighting effects, as well as rare video footage - some never seen in public - to tell the story of a mission into space aboard SpaceShipOne. During this journey, SpaceShipOne demonstrates a key technological breakthrough conceived by spacecraft designer Burt Rutan, a longtime EAA member.
EAA's rebuilt prototype of the classic Aerocar represents a revolutionary concept. Not only can it be readily converted from an airplane to a roadable car, but also its wings can be folded back along the sides of the detached fuselage and towed behind the automobile like a trailer.
EAA has constructed two Spirit of St. Louis replica aircraft to honor Charles Lindbergh and his aviation achievements. This replica was built in 1977 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Lindbergh's flight across the Atlantic Ocean. Between 1977 and 1988, that aircraft accumulated more than 1,300 hours of flight time.
The Christen Eagle was designed by Frank Christensen, founder of Christen Industries. Frank was an aerobatic pilot and manager of the U.S. Aerobatic Team that won the 1972 World Aerobatic Championship. The Christen Eagle II combined professional design with factory quality parts. The resulting kit raised the bar for aircraft kit manufacturers.
The centerpiece of KidVenture is the Raptor Gallery, which contains 16 interactive exhibits focusing on the world's most advanced airplane, the F-22 Raptor. It includes a half-scale model of the F-22 where young people can climb into the cockpit.
Come one, come all to the EAA Skyscape Theatre Royale for an old-time aviation movie series on one Tuesday of each month. Travel back in time and experience the golden age of cinema.
Commemorate the anniversary of the first powered flight with a very special keynote speaker at the annual Wright Brothers Memorial Banquet in December. Honoring the spirit and achievements of the Wright Brothers is a tradition at EAA.
Spend an evening sampling more than 250 extraordinary beverages from around the world at Hops & Props, a fine food and beverage-tasting event held annually in March. Micro-breweries and distributors are on hand to teach you about the brewing process and history, and help you become a discerning beverage taster.
Discover the exciting world of aviation with an interactive, educational experience at Family Flight Fest held during a weekend in the spring. The museum's younger visitors enjoy a variety of aviation-related activities that educate and spark their curiosity in flight.
EAA Ultralight Chapters 1, 75, and 1331 fly their ultralights and light-planes to Pioneer Airport to showcase what fun flying is all about. Get up close and learn more about this fun, affordable segment of aviation.
Relive the excitement and glamour of the 1940s at September Swing! Learn to swing dance (or practice your skills) and then dance the night away amid the Eagle Hangar's authentic collection of World War II planes, vehicles, and artifacts. Great music, delicious hors d'oeuvres, and 1940s fun make up this exciting event.
Join us as we honor our newest inductees into our Sport Aviation Halls of Fame. Inductees represent ultralights, the International Aerobatic Club, Vintage Aircraft Association, Warbirds of America, and homebuilding.
Get into the holiday spirit at Christmas in the Air, a free community event for all ages held in December. This widely popular event features holiday performances by local more than 20 musical, choral, and dance groups on four stages. Don't miss the arrival of Santa Claus by helicopter, after which he will visit with children!
See dozens of skiplanes fly in to the snow-covered runway of Pioneer Airport at February's Skiplane Fly-In, which showcases this unique segment of flight that is quite popular throughout many parts of North America. The Skiplane Fly-In is free of charge to the public.
A walk through the EAA Aviation Museum is a walk through history. Delve into our exhibits and discover innovations and advancements from the fledgling days of flight.
From May through October, a short tram ride from the museum takes you to Pioneer Airport, a unique "living history" re-creation of what airports were like during the early days of air travel. It brings back a time when the magic of flying astounded and charmed the whole world.
More than 50 vintage airplanes are displayed in seven period hangars designed to take you back to aviation's golden age of the 1920s and '30s. Fascinating displays include a tribute to the legendary air racer, designer, and builder Steve Wittman.
Younger visitors will enjoy a play area with swings and pedal planes. For kids aged between 8 and 17, a free Young Eagles airplane flight may be available.
Most important of all, Pioneer Airport is a place to savor the sights and sounds of vintage flying machines in their "natural habitat."
Weather permitting, flights take place from Pioneer Airport's grass runway every day during the season. You may also see demonstration flights from planes such as EAA's replica of Charles Lindbergh's Spirit of St. Louis and the stunning Pitcairn Mailwing biplane once flown by Howard Hughes.
Hours of Operation
Open daily from Memorial Day to Labor Day, 10:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. (Pioneer Airport is closed for flights during EAA AirVenture, but the hangars are open for visitors to wander around.)
Open Saturday and Sunday in May, September and October, 10:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m.
A flying copy of the a 1911 Wright Flyer Model B was donated in 2011 by EAA Chapter 610, New Carlisle, Ohio, which built the aircraft...
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T. Claude Ryan, an early aeronautical genius, first conceived of a revolutionary luxurious cabin aircraft in 1935.
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The Speedster was designed by Noel Hockaday and Doug Webber in 1932 and designated Model 6000.
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NEW YORK (AP) — Compuware shares jumped 17 percent Monday, after one of its largest shareholders offered to buy the software development company for about $2.35 billion in a bid to turn it around.
New York-based investment firm Elliott Management, which holds an 8 percent stake in Compuware Corp., wants to acquire it for $11 per share. The offer represents a 15 percent premium over its Friday closing stock price.
"Compuware is a long-established company that we have followed closely for several years," Elliott said in its letter to Compuware's board. "We believe in the quality of Compuware's assets — however, its execution, profitability and growth have meaningfully underperformed."
In its letter, Elliott touted its experience in the software industry and familiarity with Compuware, saying that it's "uniquely situated" to get the best value for the company's shareholders. It said it's confident that it can find financing for such a deal and wants to meet with the company's board as soon as possible.
Other technology-related holdings of Elliott include BMC Software, Brocade Communications and Emulex Corp., according to FactSet.
Later on Monday, Compuware released a statement saying that it received the offer and would review it with its financial and legal advisers.
The offer comes about a month after Peter Karmanos Jr. announced plans to step down as executive chairman of Compuware next year. He stepped down as CEO in 2011. Karmanos founded the company in 1973.
In addition, Compuware said Friday that it that it filed for a possible initial public offering of its Covisint Corp. unit and could conduct the IPO in three to six months.
The company said the IPO would give Covisint more flexibility to pursue strategic opportunities and increase its visibility. Covisint specializes in secure, industry specific communication and collaboration, according to its website.
Compuware has struggled amid sluggish global economic conditions and the European economic crisis. In October, it said its fiscal second-quarter profit plunged 53 percent and issued a weak forecast for the full year. But despite significant volatility, the company's shares have risen about 15 percent since the beginning of the year.
In afternoon trading, Compuware shares rose $1.23, or 13 percent, to $10.76, after peaking at $11.16 earlier in the day, passing their previous 52-week high of $10.25 and marking their highest price since May 2011.


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October 6, 2012
This week I got another e-mail from one of our scientists. This time it was from Kimball Garrett, our amazing Ornithology Collections Manager. He found another bird for our Exposition Park bird list, and my isn't it cute? Here's Kimball's communique from October 3rd at 1:24pm:"All,Canada Warbler, Cardellina canadensis [= Wilsonia canadensis] along the south edge of the Rose Garden just now. First for the park, and brings the wood-warbler (Parulidae) list for the park up to 22 species and the park list to 171 species. Sorry, no photos obtained."But wait, Kimball, never to be outdone by a bird, sent me this e-mail at 4:38pm that same day:"Lila,I went back out late this afternoon and had much better studies of the Canada Warbler and managed to get a few (lousy) photos. Here's one:"
Wow look at that eye ring! Thanks Kimball.
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Former Rockingham jail administrator to admit to theftBy JAMES A. KIMBLE
Union Leader Correspondent
February 10. 2014 8:23PM
BRENTWOOD — A former office administrator at the Rockingham County jail will plead guilty to charges that she embezzled thousands of dollars by altering her husband's time sheets while he worked as a corrections officer, according to her lawyer.
Ann Marie Nelson, 55, of Chester intends to enter a guilty plea in Rockingham County Superior Court after being indicted on two counts of felony theft by deception.
She allegedly manipulated the payroll records at the Rockingham County jail, where her husband worked as a corrections officer, overbilling the county thousands of dollars.
Commissioner Vice Chairman Kevin Coyle said on Monday that a review by county auditors and the sheriff's department found that Nelson had stolen more than $30,000 from the jail.
The thefts date back to at least July 2012, according to indictments.
Investigators had initially discovered about $12,000 allegedly siphoned by Nelson, who allegedly added time for shifts that her husband never worked, according to prosecutors.
Nelson and her husband, Keith, were suspended in May and no longer work for the county.
The New Hampshire Union Leader has learned that Keith Nelson will not be charged in the case because investigators have found no evidence that he knew what his wife was allegedly doing.
Prosecutors and Nelson's lawyer have agreed to let a judge ultimately decide Nelson's punishment after they make their arguments at an upcoming court hearing, according to court records.
The two theft charges are each punishable by up to 7½ to 15 years in state prison.
Defense lawyer Gerard LaFlamme asked a judge for a pre-sentence investigation to help craft a potential sentence. He asked the court for a May court date.
Coyle said he hopes that prosecutors will demand that Nelson spend some time behind bars.
"Knowing what I know, she probably needs to go to jail," Coyle said. "When you're in a position of public trust and handling the public's money, you need to go to jail."
A county employee who discovered discrepancies in the jail's bookkeeping in May triggered a review of policies and practices at the jail and resulted in some changes, according to Coyle.
Nelson being allowed to review her husband's time sheet was part of the problem, he said.
"We had a good system in place, but unfortunately people can steal from you anyway," he said.


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John Lanahan Jr. was spending Sunday afternoon at St. Agnes Hospital with his father, who was recovering from an allergic reaction. The two Orioles fans planned to watch the game against perennial favorite Boston Red Sox.
Then disaster struck. As the game went into extra innings — ultimately, 17 in all — WJZ interrupted the broadcast at 7 p.m. to show "60 Minutes." The hospital did not offer the cable station MASN, which carried the remainder of the game.
The father and son missed out on the culmination of what is arguably the most memorable game of the O's season so far — in which designated hitter Chris Davis pitched two scoreless innings and the Orioles won, 9-6.
"We were both pretty disappointed that we couldn't watch the end of the game," the 36-year-old accountant said. "It was a classic. And they cut it off. It is going to go down in baseball history, and we missed it."
Many Orioles fans — who had been watching the game since it started at 1:35 p.m. — were miffed Sunday when the game was interrupted. MASN was carrying the game, and "60 Minutes" was featuring hometown swimmer Michael Phelps — but the damage had been done.
"I thought it was pretty bad," said Lanahan, an Arbutus resident. "They only put a handful of games on TV to begin with. It just stinks when they can't put on the whole thing."
The interruption set off a firestorm of Twitter comments.
"WJZ about to be flooded with angry calls after switching away from the Orioles-Red Sox in the 15th to go to 60 Minutes," one tweet predicted.
"Boo to WJZ for not recognizing #orioles magic!!!," another person tweeted.
Even Kevin Gregg, a self-described "casual Orioles fan," said he was "crushed when CBS switched away from the fantastic O's game against Boston."
The Baltimorean griped that "60 Minutes" is "routinely delayed during the NFL season but not for a baseball game.
"This double standard is unfair to the baseball fans — both diehard and casual," the 51-year-old Lauraville resident said. "It was frustrating. I don't have cable TV. I cannot receive MASN Orioles network."
He added: "Can you say 'double standard'? It just isn't right."
Contacted Sunday night, WJZ spokesperson K.C. Robertson said the station chose to "give the vast majority of viewers a choice."
"Viewers were alerted via a lower-screen crawl before 7 p.m. that those viewers who wanted to see the game's conclusion should switch over to MASN," Robertson said. "Those who wanted to see '60 Minutes' particularly the high local interest story on Baltimore Olympian Michael Phelps, were alerted to watch '60 Minutes' on WJZ."
Robertson said that WJZ alerted viewers of the final score with a lower screen crawl.
He said he did not know what reaction — if any — WJZ received Sunday evening.
"I can't speak to that," he said. "I'm not there. I'm not tuned into that."
Orioles fan David Jones, 28, watched the entire game from his Elkton home. He wasn't affected by WJZ's decision because he watched the game on cable. But he said he felt bad for the fans who missed out on the ending.
"They missed one hell of a game," he said. "It was up and down the whole extra innings. It was just phenomenal, edge-of-your-seat type game."
Sun critic David Zurawik contributed to this article.


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BOSTON — The Bruins held their breakup day at TD Garden today, at least a month earlier than they thought they would have to go through that process.
Among the big stories was Patrice Bergeron's revelation that he injured his oblique in Game 3 of Boston's seven-game loss in the first round of the 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs to Washington. Bergeron said he either strained or pulled the muscle and reaggravated the injury in Game 5, so that's why he wasn't able to take faceoffs in Game 6 and 7.
He didn't have an MRI, but Bergeron said he's not scheduled to have surgery.
Here are some more quick bits from the Bruins' media availability:
•Adam McQuaid revealed that he started feeling concussion symptoms during the April 5 game in Ottawa. McQuaid didn't play again after that game. General manager Peter Chiarelli said he's confident both McQuaid and Nathan Horton will return to full health in time for next season.
•Tuukka Rask is scheduled to become a restricted free agent this summer. The goaltender said he's looking forward to returning and again competing for the starting job with Tim Thomas.
"I think there's a clear plan. I think everybody's been talking about it for a long time now," Rask said. "It's not about the money, it's more about what's good for everybody. And as I've always said, I like it here and I think we have a great group of guys and I think the organization's great."
Thomas also said he'd like to be back with the Bruins.
"I'm happy," Thomas said. "I'm on a great team with a great coaching staff. … I know it's a year later, but we just won that Cup together, and that is very special. So I don't really know what to say."
•As of Friday afternoon, Tyler Seguin was the only Bruins player scheduled for possible surgery. Seguin was playing through a tendon issue with a knuckle on his left hand.
•Don't expect a major overhaul of the Bruins' roster, at least as far as Chiarelli's early plans heading into the offseason:
"I wish I could tell you a lot [but] I've got to meet with our group, look at our roster and obviously we have some guys that are unsigned. [Benoit] Pouliot, Chris Kelly, [Daniel] Paille, [Gregory] Campbell, [Joe] Corvo, the three additions [Brian Rolston, Mike Mottau, Greg Zanon], Tuukka [Rask]. So, we obviously have some guys to consider whether we sign them or not," Chiarelli said. "From the makeover perspective, certainly we're not going to do anything to make over this team. You hear me talk about the parity in this league and our first round loss in seven games this year can be another Stanley Cup Final next year – it's that close. You saw the number of teams in the West – you kind of see the new four teams in the West and you see some different teams in the East so you just have to be prepared.
"I'd like to maybe look at a forward to bolster our top nine, doesn't mean I'm not going to look at signing Pouliot. It doesn't mean we're not going to consider [Jordan] Caron up there. I just want to look at the trade market and the free agent market. And we got a couple of good, young players coming too. We got a good defenseman that I think will challenge for a spot – Dougie Hamilton. You saw Torey Krug, Matt Bartkowski, you've seen some guys that are going to challenge.
"But on the major change front, I'm not looking at doing anything on that front. But I would like to add some pieces."


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Brandon Boykin's phone started buzzing this morning. His brother was "fired up" when he called.
There was an article in the (Washington and Greene Counties) Observer-Reporter in which Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown called Boykin the "candy bar" in the Eagles' secondary, meaning the Steelers can take advantage of him.
"That's his opinion," Boykin said Thursday. "That's funny to me. We're just going to continue doing what we've been doing as a secondary, and me as well."
Boykin said he didn't understand the joke. When he learned it was an insult, he tried to take the high road.
"We'll see on Sunday," Boykin said. "The game's on Sunday. There's no point in rah-rahing in the media on Thursday. I'll let my game do the talking."
Boykin even said it's a good thing that other receivers are taking a notice of him. He knows that teams are going to try to take advantage of him because he's a rookie fourth-round pick in the slot, and Pro Bowlers Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Nnamdi Asomugha are on the outside. Boykin has welcomed that challenge through four games, and has defended the likes of Larry Fitzgerald and Victor Cruz.
Boykin did not know if it was Brown's personality to call him out in public. In fact, Boykin said he didn't eve known who Brown was until he started preparing for the game.
"I don't know too much about Antonio Brown," Boykin said. "I just found out who he was this week."
Boykin has never been called out before. He said it doesn't happen in college, but players have more leeway in the NFL. He figured that Brown is trying to get into his head, but Boykin said it's not going to affect how he plays.
"It's good he's pointing me out and it's not doing anythng other than giving me a little more attention," Boykin said. "I got to go out and do what I do. And if I do right, he's actually helped me in a sense. So tell him I appreciate it."
So Boykin's first foray into NFL public trash talking went as smooth as possible. He recognized it was an insult, but he did not want to trade public barbs with Brown.
"It's up to me to do what I got to do to make sure they don't treat me like a candy bar, or whatever they said," Boykin said.


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In a rural village in Chiapas, Mexico, an indigenous woman reflects: "My whole life I was taught to obey. First of all, I obeyed my father and mother. At age twelve my father decided whom I would marry. My father and his father made the agreement. I had no say. I could not object that I didn't even know the man to whom my father had promised me. My only choice was to do my father's will.
"My father and mother told me to obey the commands of my father-in-law and my mother-in-law and my husband. He said I would only be happy if I obeyed. After I was married I tried to obey my husband in everything. He was the one who always made the decisions. I tried to be an obedient daughter and wife, but my father was wrong. I was not happy. My heart was always sad. I would cry out to God in my prayers, but the only answer I got was that God ordained that it should be this way."
This woman's story, along with the stories of others like her, is shared in the book Con Mirada, Mente y Corazon de Mujer. She, through the sharing of Scripture with other women who have learned how to read "with the eyes, mind and heart of a woman" discovered a new meaning of obedience that took her far beyond her initial understanding. In this she is like Abraham and Sarah, as described in the second reading, and like Peter and the other disciples in the Gospel.
The reading from Hebrews emphasizes how obedience flows from faith in a trustworthy God. It elaborates how Abraham obeyed the call from God to go out from the place he knew "not knowing where he was to go." All he and Sarah had to go on was God's promise and their experience of generative power that was given to them by God. They set out obediently in faith, because everything they had experienced of God's gracious goodness led them to trust the Holy One for whatever lay ahead.
The Gospel outlines how one becomes disposed to hear, to know and to act on God's will. First, one must let go of fear so as to be able to receive the gift of God's kingdom. This is God's great joy: to find us unafraid and delighting in this indescribable gift. Obedience out of fear of a punishing God has no place among Jesus' followers. Rather, obedience is the single-hearted response in faith to the One who is love incarnate and who frees us to love in like manner.
Freeing the heart from attachment to anything but God's love and God's realm is the next step in obedience. Selling belongings and giving alms ensures that possessions do not become the treasure that grips the heart. Also needed is a sharpening of the senses, watching intently for all signs of divine presence and directives, through vigilance in prayer and attentiveness to the hungers of our world. Finally, when the master becomes the servant, there is a dismantling of systems wherein some are masters and others servants. The meaning of this parable becomes clear in the Last Supper scene, where it is enacted by Jesus himself.
Obedient faith that dismantles unjust master/servant dichotomies is not an easy road, as women from the Bible study groups in Chiapas attest: "At first we felt guilty; we thought we were disobeying the law of God. It's been a long process, but we kept talking and listening to one another. Now we know that it is not God who commands it to be so, but it is a matter of culture and education. We were not born to be subservient as we had been made to believe, but to be obedient to God, who wants us to be happy."


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If you had bothered to read my post above on MN 1, you might have noticed that the appropriation of states as "mine" was actually addressed.retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Sylvester,
Alternatively...Sylvester wrote:The problem seems to be retro's understanding of the verb "appropriate" ( upādiyati ).
In the suttas, that verb denotes only the "appropriating" or "taking up" of the Aggregates as self/Self.Nevermind "self" or "I" just for the moment (which themselves are not specified in the dictionary reference), but can you actually demonstrate this its use is to be so narrowly constricted and strait-jacketed, so as to preclude the act of taking them as "mine", because that's part of what I'm talking about here too - the full shebang...Source: Pali-English Dictionary, TW Rhys Davids, William Stede wrote: Description: Upādiyati [upa + ā + dā, see ādiyati] to take hold of, to grasp, cling to, show attachment (to the world), cp. upādāna D ii.292; M i.56, 67; S ii.14; iii.73, 94, 135;iv. 168 (na kiñci loke u. = parinibbāyati); Sn 752, 1103, 1104; Nd1 444 (= ādeti); Nd2 164. ppr. upādiyaŋ S iv. 24 = 65 (an˚); -- ppr. med. upādiyamāna Siii.73; SnA 409, & upādiyāna (˚ādiyāno) Sn 470; Dh 20. <-> ger. upādāya in lit. meaning "taking up" J i.30; Miln 184, 338, 341; for specialised meaning & use as prep. see separately as also upādā and upādiyitvā VvA 209; DA i.109 (an˚); DhA iv.194 (an˚). -- pp. upādiṇṇa (q. v.).
Regarding the demarkation or delineation of the "heap"...
MN 109: Maha-punnama Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Thus, aggregates are personally delineated, based on different experiential conditions, and the coloured section above shows when in the paticcasamuppada process each arises. Thus if aggregates need to be delineated to arise in the manner shown above, questions of a realism vs idealism nature (i.e. the underlying nature of what, if anything, such delineations might point to, separate from and independently of their delineation) can be set aside."Lord, what is the cause, what the condition, for the delineation[2] of the aggregate of form? What is the cause, what the condition, for the delineation of the aggregate of feeling... perception... fabrications... consciousness?"
"Monk, the four great existents (earth, water, fire, & wind) are the cause, the four great existents the condition, for the delineation of the aggregate of form. Contact is the cause, contact the condition, for the delineation of the aggregate of feeling. Contact is the cause, contact the condition, for the delineation of the aggregate of perception. Contact is the cause, contact the condition, for the delineation of the aggregate of fabrications. Name-&-form is the cause, name-&-form the condition, for the delineation of the aggregate of consciousness."
[2] - Delineation (paññapana) literally means, "making discernible." This apparently refers to the intentional aspect of perception, which takes the objective side of experience and fabricates it into discernible objects. In the case of the aggregates, the four great existents, contact, and name-&-form provide the objective basis for discerning them, while the process of fabrication takes the raw material provided by the objective basis and turns it into discernible instances of the aggregates. This process is described in slightly different terms in SN 22.79.
So how is support for the delineation of aggregates cut off in practice?...
I'm afraid Ven Thanissaro has over-stepped the suttas by his novel explanation of paññapana. Firstly, DN 15's critique of paññapana is limited to attānaṃ paññapento (a delineation of the self/Self). No critique is made about delineation of the Aggregates. In fact, DN 15 gives a ringing endorsement of paññattipatha (pathway of designation) as providing paññāvacara (a sphere of wisdom). All this gobbledygook about paññapana being the subjective experience of the Aggregates that makes the Aggregates discernible flies in the face of SN 22.62 and SN 22.94 discussed in - http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 40#p201360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's little wonder why the abovementioned 2 suttas find no place in ATI. It's an inconvenient hurdle to Ven T's model of cognition. Ven T might want to pay closer attention to DN 15's paṭighasamphassa and adhivacanasamphassa, and ask which of these 2 contacts is the source of papañca.
That will be your cross to carry, if you mistakenly paññapeti (delineate) my actions as such.And by all means disagree with my statement and citations if you like, that is your prerogative to do so... but please do so without any needless and unproductive histrionics, red herrings or strawmen. Thanks.


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Legal schedule unclear for Marriott defendant Kathryn McDonoughBy GRETYL MACALASTER
Union Leader Correspondent
December 30. 2012 10:36PM
DOVER - As of Friday afternoon, the attorney for a woman charged in connection with the murder of a University of New Hampshire sophomore did not know whether they would go forward with a probable cause hearing scheduled for Wednesday.
Attorney Ryan Russman of Exeter said the state is "holding their cards very close to their vest," so it was hard for him to make a decision on his next move.
His client, Kathryn "Kat" McDonough, 19, of Portsmouth was arrested on Christmas Eve and charged with felony counts of hindering apprehension or prosecution and conspiracy to commit hindering apprehension or prosecution.
Police allege that McDonough and her boyfriend, Seth Mazzaglia, 30, of 1 Mill Street in Dover, both gave police false alibis for their whereabouts and their interactions with 19-year-old Elizabeth "Lizzi" Marriott on Oct. 9, the last day Marriott was seen alive.
Mazzaglia was charged with second-degree murder Oct. 13 for allegedly strangling and/or suffocating Marriott in his apartment on the night of Oct. 9.
Police have spent more than two months searching for her body in the waters off of Peirce Island in Portsmouth based on "credible information," but have turned up nothing.
Russman said he is not sure why the state waited so long to arrest his client and thinks it is a tactical move.
"These guys have had plenty of time to make a decision ... as I said at the hearing, I think it's a 'tactical move' to apply pressure to Ms. McDonough," Russman said, an accusation the state immediately denied in court.
Documents related to McDonough's arrest were placed under seal by a Derry District Court judge, following her arraignment Dec. 26, even to her defense attorneys.
"So I don't even have access to the foundation for why they had probable cause to arrest Kat," Russman said. "The only thing I have in my possession at this point is copies of the complaint."
Details in the complaint are limited to the fact that in interviews with police in Newington on Oct. 12 both Mazzaglia and McDonough allegedly gave false alibis to police.
"So it's difficult as a defense lawyer to make decisions about what your strategy or tactics would be without being armed with information," Russman said.
Russman, who was hired Christmas Day, said he learned that McDonough had been subpoenaed to a grand jury proceeding as recently as mid-December, which she appeared at and was dismissed from.
Russman said he is unsure what the December grand jury hearing was about and is unfamiliar with the case against Mazzaglia. In mid-December, the state filed a motion in Strafford County Superior Court, seeking an extension to the end of February, to seek indictment against Mazzaglia on the murder charge filed against him.
McDonough's probable cause hearing is scheduled for Portsmouth Circuit Court at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday.


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