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Yon will need to know which end of your long box is the top. So mark a "T" for "top" at one end.
To make an important pattern that you will need, trace a square exactly the same size as the end of the box on a piece of paper. Cut out the square. Fold the square to make a triangle. See Picture.
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I have two younger brothers and there is enough age distance between us that, watching from afar as they grew up, I knew raising boys wasn't for me. Midnight fishing trips, karate sparring in the kitchen, "made you look," and other manliness just confused me and I said for years that I never wanted to have boys. Just daughters if you please.
And then I found out that Spencer was coming. The day the doctor told me we'd be adding a son to our home I went out and bought the cutest little blue jumpsuit and a clip-on basketball hoop for his crib and I've been thrilled ever since.
I guess there's a difference between having brothers and having sons.
If I didn't have Spencer and David I would have missed out on the deepest conversations I've ever had: "Mom would you rather be eaten by a giant squid or a great white shark?" and would have never known the fascination of teaching little boys full of recklessness marbled with affection.
But as the boys grow I find them wading--no make that running and schlopping--into foreign territory. The latest example, professional sports, are completely not my thing but suddenly I have two little rabid sports fans in the house that only want to talk football (Spencer) and football plus baseball (David).
I haven't thought about football since my college days--who knew the L.A. Rams are now out to pasture in some other city? Or that there are Titans in Tennessee? What happened to the Oilers? (Apparently their well dried up). Are the Cowboys still in Dallas? Surely they haven't gone anywhere in the past twenty years? I think I still don't like them probably.
And whenever I'm alone with the boys--usually in the car where I can't flee to my happy place--they want to talk shop.
"Mom who's your favorite baseball player?" David asked the other day.
Now I actually do like baseball--kind of in the same way that I like spaghetti or fresh sheets on my bed--it's a pleasant thing to go to a game in the summer sun, eating peanuts and hearing that crack of the bat and it I can appreciate the difficulty of hitting a baseball. But do I know baseball? Heck no. I was too ashamed to admit the only player I remembered ever kind of liking was Mark Grace and I recalled that was only because he was easy on the eyes--who knew what position he'd played? I was pretty sure it was for one of the Chicago teams but I couldn't let my son down so I said, "Randy Johnson?" That's a name I'd remembered hearing around . . . somewhere . . . I thought maybe he played for Seattle.
"Yea," David said with approval, "he's good. He's 6'9" and . . . " I forget the rest. It was a lot of numbers.
"So what's your favorite football team?" Spencer interrupted
"The 49rs?" (Why did all my answers seem to be phrased in the form of a question?) "Yea, definitely the 49rs. I like Joe Montana."
"Mom! Joe Montana doesn't play for the 49rs. Not like for a hundred years!"
"Oh. Well then how about Steve Young? He still plays for them doesn't he?"
"Nope." And I felt their disgust growing. Suddenly I realized that it was all a test--a test to see if I was hip to it. Whatever "it" was. It was my chance to prove that I actually had a brain and could demonstrate the proper amount of knowledge and interest in the only topic of conversation they considered worthy. Suddenly I began to sweat because there was no way I'd pass and I doubted I could fake my way through like I could with Grace's algebra homework.
Sigh. "Well I'll just stick with the 49rs then and leave it at that--are they still in San Francisco?"
So I'm learning and I'm having a great time talking with my boys as they teach me about their favorite things. And actually I'm doing pretty well. Here's a compilation of my new knowledge that you're free to use for any fans you might have in the house:
- Randy Moss is cool and he plays for the Patriots--that's a team that's supposed to be pretty good. More or less.
- Tom Brady is cooler. He also plays for New England. I know he's quite the ladies man though I didn't learn that from the boys but from the checkout stand tabloids.
- Ladanian Tomlinson is an actual name of an actual man. I haven't yet learned what team he's on and it took me forever to figure out what they were saying when they said his name--their excitement tends to slur words together. Thank goodness for Google.
- Plaxico Buress is another actual name. Though this one is probably trademarked so that he makes royalties every time someone utters it.
- Someone actually named a child Deuce McCallister. And apparently when Spencer says Deuce and I say Dooce we're not talking about the same person.
- Reggie Bush is the only Bush my boys know and is the "wickedest" player in the NFL (that's a good thing) who can run "crazy fast" (also to be encouraged) but he'd do better if he had a wonky name to go with his skills like his aforementioned buddies.
But they're patiently teaching me and pointing out all the best players and their stats and calling to me to come look at the rookie card they just traded for--every once in a while I can chime in with my own opinions and questions and tag along in the conversation.
It tugs at my heart to see my boys so excited to share their favorite baseball card with me or tell me all about the Honus Wagner or Satchel Paige biography they're reading or ask me if I agree that the Chargers are the greatest football team ever. I may be an idiot when it comes to the games but it makes me feel so loved to know that when they have something exciting to share the first person they want to share it with . . . is me.
I guess you'd say I'm their first round draft choice and I love it.
Oh how I love my boys!
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"The Delta Queen Cookbook" by Cynthia LeJune Nobles opens with a catchy song written by Rich Campbell and recorded by Cadillac Moon. Things important to this book are mentioned: a paddle wheeler cruising the Mississippi River, red beans & rice to jambalaya, a good band, Creole maids and steamboat pilots.
Captain Clarke Hawley pens a concise forward of the development of fine dining on steamboats, an interesting couple of pages before getting into Cynthia's work.
The Delta Queen, a luxury hotel on water, made its way up and down America's inland waters from 1927 through 2008. An eight page introduction covers traveling by boat, descriptions of different boats, and reminding today's tourists that fresh food meant "on the hoof" to be butchered (or milked) and eaten as needed.
Fourteen chapters cover a variety of topics, each chapter ending with several recipes of dishes served on the Delta Queen. This is a good read even if you don't cook. Ms.Nobles entertains as well as captures a slice of history that appeals to many of us.
If you like boudin, this is the book for you. "Boudin:A Guide to Louisiana's Extraordinary Link," written by Robert Carriker, leads the reader to twenty-seven locations throughout south Louisiana that are known for their boudin. Can't say that Babineaux's Slaughter House appeals to my senses as a place to try any type food, but if you are in the Breaux Bridge area you might want to try them out. Charlie T's of Breaux Bridge would get my business. Jerry Lee's Cajun Foodsof Baton Rouge or Juneau's Cajun Meats in Marksville can "meat" your boudin cravings if you're in the area.
Tiny Prudhomme, great nephew of Paul Prudhomme, has his business in Broussard, just south of Lafayette. His place isn't open on weekends so make plans accordingly to check out his House of Meats. Heading west to Lake Charles, you might want to try the smokey links of Sonnier's Sausage and Boudin. Sonnier guards his recipe, but Carriker's description make you want a sample.
Mr. Carriker has written an entertaining reference book for the foody traveler. Information, history, and comics are scattered throughout the book just as spices are blended in the boudin.


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Product: 5 out of 5
Packaging: 5 out of 5
Brush Head: 5 out of 5
Overall: 5 out of 5
Price: $22, available at Sephora, Nordstroms, Macy's and other department store counters.
What it claims: A clear base coat for eyelashes that improves mascara application and wear as it boosts volume and curl. Adds dramatic definition to the eyes. Contains Multi-Nutrient Factor, an advanced moisturizer.
PROS: The thick brush wand builds up volume to my lashes, it's a clear gel therefore you can even just use it by itself for a "natural look", immediately when I started to use it I noticed a difference. My lashes looked fuller and longer, and that was just it by itself! There's no funky smell to it and it really keeps a curl on my lashes that lasts me all day. I also like how it is conditioning so it's like a primer to your eyelashes before you apply mascara therefore it prevents eyelash fallout.
CONS: The price, but it does the job so to me it's well worth it!
How does it compare to the Tiffa Mascara Base? Well the Tiffa mascara base has tiny hairs (click on the link for my review on it) that basically attach to your eyelashes to give the illusion of longer and thicker lashes, and can sometimes be irritating if one of the "hairs" gets into your eye. The Shiseido Mascara base is a true eyelash primer and has no "hairs" to attach onto your lashes; it strictly coats your lashes giving you more fuller and longer lashes. It also holds a curl while the Tiffa mascara base doesn't really hold a curl, although it did look the same for the finished look in my last FOTD...
Here are the pics to prove it, so what do you think? ***NOTE*** I did NOT curl my lashes for this demo so that you can see the result...so imagine IF you DO curl your lahes...hello va-va-voom!
It really perked up my lashes but sorta made it wonky...
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Product Review: Shiseido Mascara Base vs. Tiffa Mascara Base
28 comments
- Anonymous said...
wow! you can actually get away with just wearing the base!!! your eyelashes looks amazing! im thinking of investing on a primer! its sooo expensive though! :X
- July 20, 2008 at 11:11 PM
- Alyssa said...
I really want the Shiseido Mascara Base after seeing this review. I need anything that will help me with thicker, longer eyelashes... hehe~ It doesn't hurt that it holds curls. :)
- July 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM
- Anonymous said...
seriously, this base is GOLD to me. i love it with all my heart and i'm glad to hear that you're liking it too! it is really pricey but it's so well worth it! and yes, curling your lashes will give you that va va vooom! haha. im soo glad you did a review on this product. it's so underrated.
- July 21, 2008 at 1:14 AM
- Jennifer L said...
Hi vanessa,
Love your blog, been lurking for quite some time now and decided to make my own blog.
You're one of my great inspirations. :)
please check out my blog when u get a chance
it's www.vietnameseqt.blogspot.com
- July 21, 2008 at 1:32 AM
- Askmewhats said...
The shiseido mascara base works like magic!!! it does its job and you looked like you have lash extensions!!!
- July 21, 2008 at 1:46 AM
- R said...
Hmm I have both of these two Vanessa - I think Shisido is really special - I can use it with any mascara and it will hold curl but I love Tiffa too for some va-va-voom! The Tiffa works well with its own brand mascara!
- July 21, 2008 at 1:52 AM
- Nic Nic said...
OMG I love this base!! I agree, there are no cons about it but the price but it REALLY works!! hehe
- July 21, 2008 at 3:06 AM
- Joey said...
It looks great! I tried the Clinique one the other week, and the results were a bit disappointing.
I think I'm going to end up getting this in my next Sephora haul! (:
Your lashes are amazing by themselves, though. hehe.
- July 21, 2008 at 3:14 AM
- Anonymous said...
Try using shisedo mascara base with Devaju mascara , it's magic !!! Fuller and thicker lashes guaranteed ...
- July 21, 2008 at 3:48 AM
- Ling said...
Your lashes are so long!
I don't think you need to curl your lashes. They look amazing already! =D
- July 21, 2008 at 4:30 AM
- B said...
I like the fact that its a gel. Most primers are "white" and I haaaate that. Definitely adding this to my list. Great review!
- July 21, 2008 at 5:30 AM
- Shen said...
wow! the base made the mascara application cleaner and smoother.. :) hmm. great rev sis! :)
- July 21, 2008 at 5:44 AM
- cheeeezie said...
that shiseido primer looks awesome! i've been using my Lancome one for awhile and while i think it's great, i'm on the lookout for something new.. just because we should always welcome change in our lives :) i'll pick this up once i have some moolah!
thanks for the review :D
- July 21, 2008 at 6:09 AM
- purple snowflake said...
hehe i second Alyssa.. I think i'm gonna go buy this too after seeing this review.. btw your lashes are so curly without curling them.. mine is dead straight.....
- July 21, 2008 at 6:41 AM
- xoxo Jaimie said...
wow that really does make a huge difference. I'm gonna have to scoop some!
- July 21, 2008 at 6:53 AM
- MakeupByRenRen said...
i loveeeee the shiseido mascara base...i can't wear my normal mascara without!
- July 21, 2008 at 7:21 AM
- tiffany said...
Vanessa, I have problems with my mascara like, running down to the area underneath my eye, so it looks like I have bags!!
Do you think the primer will help? I use waterproof mascara to try and prevent this but it's not working!!
Thanks :)
- July 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM
- Stephie said...
i love the shiseido base!
- July 21, 2008 at 10:29 AM
- Anonymous said...
Wow! Your eyelashes are amazing!!
Can you review the new Givenchy mascara?? It looks so intriguing.
- July 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM
- xppinkx said...
you are so damn nominated....my hand fucking hurts!
- July 21, 2008 at 11:48 AM
- Jamila said...
I am soooo getting this! This has been on my to get list for ages... It's settled... It must be mine. Thanks for the review.
- July 21, 2008 at 12:22 PM
- Terrishka said...
Thanks for visiting my blog! Gotta love Pink, huh... :)
Where in Canada are you from?
By the way, thanks for this review! Shiseido mascara base is my HG, and I never dared to try out other lash primers because it pleased me enough but it doesn't hurt to experiment once in a while. The Tiffa mascara base is a cool concept though! I would probably have a scare every night of taking it off though, and seeing all those hairs on the cotton pad, wondering if any are actually my own.. XD
- July 21, 2008 at 12:27 PM
- eBeautyBlog said...
I like Shiseido base. It doesn't clump and it lengthen like crazy. But definitely wanna try tiffa. It does just as good a job and it's only half the price of the shiseido...that's such a good deal!
- July 21, 2008 at 1:21 PM
- *Jen* said...
I reviewed this recently too and while it's a great base, it definitely wasn't perfect. It's kind of clumpy looking and makes my lashes feel kinda crunchy, plus while it gives me great curl and length, so do a lot of other mascaras for a better price.
The fact that you need to purchase this plus another mascara is always a factor to keep in mind-whereas one good mascara should be able to do it all! :)
- July 21, 2008 at 7:51 PM
- *Jen* said...
Thanks for your comments Vanessa! I didn't know I needed to protect my eyelashes the same way I do my face (although that does make sense)-I need to get on using my Mascara base or my Shu Lash Conditioner more often!
I really do like the base-I think maybe it was just too hyped up and so I was expecting miracles =X
It looks absolutely amazing on you though! You have beautiful lashes to begin with, but the base definitely makes then stand out.
- July 21, 2008 at 9:01 PM
- ladystarr said...
my friend told about this eyelash base, and after seeing your review I really want it now!
- July 21, 2008 at 10:50 PM
- Emilee @ GMM said...
I've been putting off buying it because it seemed kind of expensive, but everyone's given it glowing reviews so far, so I might just have to try it out! Thanks for the review, Nessa. :)
- July 22, 2008 at 4:15 PM
- Lizzii said...
haha! hello falsies! i have the base too. shiseido mascara base + l'oreal anything = <3
- July 23, 2008 at 2:14 PM


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What are they?
The BMW N63 and S63 are both twin turbo and direct injected V8's. They are different from traditional turbo V8's in the sense that the intake and exhaust systems are reversed. By designing the intake and exhaust this way BMW is able to put the turbos in the V, or valley, of the motor on top instead of the traditional location which would have turbos at the bottom off the exhaust manifold. The advantage is that the exhaust gas leaves the head traveling a very short distance to reach the turbo. BMW engineers have often prided themselves on the response of their motors and with this type of design even when going to turbo motors they are able to provide very little lag and strong response from low RPM. Not to mention, top mount turbos are just flat out cool.
How are they different?
The S63 is based on the N63 but there are some very significant differences between the two motors. The main difference being that the S63 uses a pulse tuned, cross engine exhaust manifold. That sounds cool, but what does it mean? It means that each turbo gets its exhaust flow from 4 exhaust pulses but also from opposite cylinder banks. This exhaust gas is fed into twin-scroll turbos which means there are two passages for the exhaust gases in the turbos. The N63 on the other hand uses single scroll turbos which means one passage for the exhaust gases. It is this pulse tuned exhaust manifold as well as the twin-scroll turbos that is the major difference in the architecture of the S63 vs. the N63.
BMW released the graphics above to illustrate what is taking place. By using this manifold with the twin scroll setup BMW is able to keep constant exhaust pulses flowing to the turbos at every 180 degree rotation. The N63 on the hand will have uneven exhaust pulses as it is fed by only one bank of cylinders instead of a cross-engine setup. This is a significant difference that shows BMW innovation in turbo development.
Any other differences?
Yes. The exhaust camshafts on the S63 are different, designed for higher lift. The S63 has a different cooling system using a belt-driven mechanical pump. An additional oil cooler is used in it that is mounted below the radiator as well as a larger engine oil cooler. The water to air intercoolers on the S63 are larger than those on the N63. The transmission fluid cooler used is also larger. The turbo bearings receive a separate cooling circuit on the S63. The intake setup is slightly different as well but this is more to meet pedestrian crash regulations than a design difference for performance.
The redline on the two motors is slightly different with the N63 set at 6500 whereas the S63 revs to 6800 rpm. In the upcoming F10 M5, it is likely the cam profiles in the S63 will be slightly different from the X5 and X6 M as the photos of the tachometer have shown a redline in the low 7000 range. The final major difference is that the compression ratios between the two are not the same also leading to speculation that the the S63 pistons may be stronger. The N63 compression is at 10.0:1 while the S63 is at 9.3:1. Why the compression difference? The S63 runs more boost with 17.4 psi peak vs. the N63 hitting 11.6 psi of maximum boost pressure. Other than these differences, the motors are the same with identical bore/stroke, valve sizes, and engine blocks.
Can I just add the S63 turbos, manifold, and other parts to my N63?
Maybe. Wish I had a better answer but that is where we are currently at with these platforms. Sure, you can order the parts as they are available from dealers but it is not quite so simple as just bolting them on. Yes, physically, you will have no issues matching them up. The problem would be the tuning. I can tell you there currently are tuners trying to do exactly this. Have they been successful? Well, the jury is still out on that as the hurdle seems to be the tuning. What is more likely is that upgrades that are currently in the works will apply to both the S63 and the N63. Since these upgrades will be more efficient than the factory parts anyway it will make the most sense to simply skip trying to mimic an S63 and go big. One of the reasons these motors will be so much fun to tune and will get so much attention is that with having the same basic architecture most if not all of the hardware will apply. The wildcard as always is the tuning but we expect that to be figured out especially with how much competition there will be in this sector.
What is the power difference between the two?
Well, in stock form the N63 is rated at 400 horsepower and the S63 is rated at 555 horsepower. The reality of it is that the motors are fairly close to one another in stock form, at least closer than the crank ratings from BMW would have you believe. The N63's higher compression likely plays a role in that allowing more horsepower per psi. Below you will see a dyno of a stock X6 M vs. a stock X6 50i. The cars actually belong to the same owner and the fuel is 91 octane and as luck would have it are from the same gas station. You will notice the peak horsepower difference is only 60 all wheel hp and the torque difference is just under 30 pound feet. The torque curves from 2750 to about 5000 rpm mirror each other pretty closely.
What happens at 5000 rpm though is the N63 falls off a cliff. The S63 does not look pretty either but the turbos show greater sustainability up top not only due to their size but also due to being fed with more exhaust pulses. Look at the large area under the curve from about 5000 to 6500 rpm for the S63. The N63 really stands to benefit up top from some larger turbos and that higher lift exhaust cam. To be perfectly honest, compared to the table top flat torque curves across the range of BMW naturally aspirated jewels like the S65 or S85, these curves look embarassing for a company like BMW that set such a high standard previously. Are turbos letting them be lazy? Clearly, these are all about the down low torque and not the top end although the S63 is able to shift its peak power to the right considerably compared to the N63. We have heard some preliminary details on the S63 in the M5 and it should have a powerband slightly more conducive to the top end we have grown accustomed to in M5's previously although it will not be anything like an S85.
What is the power potential?
The majority of tuning that will take place for these motors will be bolt on's and basic tuning. This means exhaust and ecu modifications for the most part. The N63 has more room to gain from stock vs. the S63 since it is not in as high of a state of tune also running less boost. Dinan is a notoriously conservative (for street applications) but solid tuner and their gains illustrate this point well. For the N63 Dinan gains about 100 horsepower and 100 pound-feet of torque from the base. On the S63 the gain is only 56 horsepower and 74 pound-feet of torque. This makes sense as boost can not be raised as much with the S63.
Here is an X6 M graph of a before and after tune by OE Tuning. You will see the gains primarily come under the curve down low and the peak HP is not affected all that much. That does not mean the car will not be much faster, area gained is huge but up top at peak there is not as much room to gain as there is with the N63.
What about upgraded turbos?
Yes, oh yes, these will come. Some claim to already have them but we remain skeptical. A tuner named ALSA for example claimed to have upgraded turbos capable of over 700 horsepower for the X6 M. We asked for a dyno graph to substantiate this but never received it. More than one tuner claims such a package but there have not been any real world details to substantiate the claims.
So nobody has done upgraded turbos?
No, Alpina has. The Alpina B7 uses larger turbos on the N63 so clearly it can be done. The thing is, Alpina doing upgraded turbos on an N63 is almost like BMW doing it themselves. The relationship between the two is so close that Alpina can get whatever software support it needs to make the hardware work. This type of work trickles down to other tuners over time but that is the thing, it takes time. So do we believe anyone has a working turbo upgrade package out there yet? Other than Alpina, no, but they will come.
How much power will these motors hit?
I wrote an article in January of last year where I said 700 horsepower will be common place. It will be, as 700 horsepower will not be a number that opens too many eyes on this motor after a while when tuners start hitting it routinely. Even early last year tuners such as Noelle were claiming 650 horsepower out of the N63, let alone the S63. ALSA already is claiming over 700. On the stock internals and fuel system, this is going to be about the limit for the S63. The N63 internals may be hindered slightly by the compression but with big enough turbos even it should approach the 700 mark on the stock internals. There have been no complaints about the fuel system not having enough headroom for this level.
These motors are going to hit big numbers fairly quickly as that is the advantage of having a forced induction motor from the factory. With the S63 being in four M vehicles (X5M, X6M, M5, and M6) at no other time has an M motor been in so many different models at once. Not to mention the number of N63's out there which will benefit from development of the S63. With the proclivity of M owners to seek higher and higher performance and the ease at which forced induction motors are tuned, the tuner competition is going to be intense. Wise tuners would already be working on their offering as hitting quickly to gain control will be vital.
The N63 will be capable of hitting anything the S63 can. With the stock hardware the N63 will not be able to go as far, similar to the difference between a 996 K16 turbo and an X50 K24 996 turbo, but with built internals and larger turbos they both will be able to hit the same eventual peak. One does not have to buy an M motor any longer to be able to have the same type of headroom as an M motor. There is something about that which is bittersweet but it opens BMW tuning to a greater range of people while keeping BMW's own costs down. Not to mention the fuel efficiency gains but we could also argue 555 horsepower 5300 pound SUV's and efficiency are oxymorons.
Any downsides?
Well, not from BMW's perspective. They can take a motor and give it bigger turbos while changing the tuning and call it an M motor. Lowers costs, improves fuel economy, the marketing and accounting departments are happy. For some cars they don't even have to bother with doing anything other than minor software changes (1M coupe). We feel these motors no longer show off the M engineers skill in the same way. They allow them to be lazier as they no longer need to strive for squeezing out every last NA horse. It also allows them to muscle out parts of the tuning market by offering their own software upgrades providing a secondary cash grab. This might force out some of the weaker tuning houses as you all know how BMW owners are weenies when it comes to preserving their warranty. More power and a warranty? For the more restrained/timid crowd it will be an easy choice.
There still is great innovation as the top mount turbos in the V show but the motors are not quite as impressive of an engineering feat or as unique as the naturally aspirated M motors were. These also have a completely different character with a curve that is very unlike what we have grown to expect out of M. Then again, these motors need a ton of torque to move heavy 5300 pound SUV's quickly. Tuning will be different than what we are used to such as trying to add aftermarket forced induction but it looks like there will be more of it and faster. So, there are only downsides depending on your perspective. Many welcome increased torque and easier tuning along with MPG gains, I just wish BMW still gave the customer the choice.


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01/12/2013 9:05amA former Vernal police detective, accused in a federal lawsuit of using a state database to help him steal painkillers from two people, is now facing felony charges.
Mia Love nominated for national campaign award for 'Love Bomb' fundraiser
01/12/2013 10:19amMia Love lost her bid for Congress, but she could win an award for her "Love Bomb" fundraiser on the heels of her rousing speech at the Republican National Convention.
Prosperity 2020 education plan: 'We have to talk about new revenue'
01/12/2013 12:14pmThe business leaders behind Prosperity 2020 presented their plan for investing in education on Wednesday, which included a call for increased spending in education and, potentially, new state revenues.
Utah family spends more time preparing food to lose weight
01/12/2013 2:40pmDeciding to become more active, eat for health, or lose some pounds can certainly seem like a daunting task. But, like so many challenges in life, the key is to take them one step at a time like the Abel family did.
Fire damages attic in Grantsville home
01/12/2013 3:14pmCrews responded to a small house fire here overnight.
Birdwatchers invited to 10th annual festival in St. George
01/12/2013 3:35pmBirdwatchers are invited to take part in this year's St. George Winter Bird Festival, which will take place Jan. 24-26.
School district apologizes to parents for not calling snow day
01/12/2013 5:04pmAfter heavy overnight and continued snowfall throughout the day, several school districts cancelled schools Friday. Granite School District did not and Saturday, the district's superintendent called parents to apologize for not following suit.
Bus catches fire; buried hydrant delays firefighter response
01/12/2013 6:12pmFirefighters helped to douse a fire that consumed a bus Saturday morning, but were deterred momentarily after having to dig out a nearby hydrant from the snow.
Scout takes care in removing pink ribbons from Odgen neighborhood
01/12/2013 6:35pmIt wasn't just one or two, or even a hundred pink ribbons Boy Scouts had to cut down today. Thousands dotted the Ogden neighborhood near Ben Lomond High School where slain Emilie Parker's parents went to high school and met.
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Freezing rain adds layer on top of snow
The winter storm that blasted through the Portland area Thursday and Friday delivered what was promised: a thick coating of snow throughout the city and suburbs, reaching more than a foot in some places.
The snow showers slowed down overnight Saturday and temperatures have been steadily increasing on Sunday.
The Oregon Department of Transportation continues to warn drivers to stay off the roads in the Willamette Valley, coast, Coast Range and Cascade foothills for at least one more day to give crews time to work on the roads.
Should they venture out, motorists should have chains, an emergency kit with blankets, water and a fully charged cell phone.
Many roads and sidestreets in the Portland area are closed because of slick road conditions. ODOT declared vehicles weighing more than 10,000 pounds must have chains or traction tires.
Road crews throughout all of Oregon and the Vancouver area are on duty working to clear the roads. However, officials said commuters may expect to be affected on Monday morning.
As of noon on Sunday, most local school districts had yet to make any announcements about whether they would be open on Monday.
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Officials at the Mount Hood Meadows ski area were thrilled to see 18 new inches of snow after the long drought this winter.
A press release from the resort called it a powderful winter storm and noted that another eight to 12 inches was expected to fall Friday night and into Saturday.
Resort officials said they anticipate a good turnout of skiers on Saturday even with ODOT advising the public not to drive.
Guests are advised to leave early to allow plenty of time for slow driving to the mountain on snowpacked roads, and only in vehicles equipped with snow tires or chains, the press release said.
Meanwhile, the Cooper Spur Ski Area, located on the north side of Mt. Hood, may open for its first day Saturday.
Sportsmen's show, auto show stay open
Local school districts were closed on Friday. State offices closed in Portland and Salem. Some courts, including Multnomah County Circuit Court, were closed also. Clackamas County courts opened at about 9 a.m. Friday.
Beaverton City Hall and the citys library opened Friday morning for business. Multnomah County libraries and Portlands parks and recreation centers were closed.
Portland International Airport was open and most flights are expected to operate Friday, despite wintery conditions. Friday morning, nine flights were canceled. Flight schedules are available at www.pdx.com.
TriMets MAX lines were running with some weather delays as crews hand to manually operate some switches because of the cold weather. Buses also were running slower because their tire chains.
TriMets Roberta Alstadt reported that a majority of the transit agencys 79 bus lines were running on regular routes. About two dozen TriMet lines were adjusted for snow routes.
We are occasionally seeing a bus get stuck here and there, but we have crews respond to get them back on their way, Alstadt says.
We have more than 200 buses with automatic chains. In addition to those, we have chained up the rest of the fleet. So we have about 500 buses out for the morning commute that either have the traditional chains or the drop down chains.
The cold weather forced elevators to shut down for several hours at the Hollywood Transit Center and at the Northeast 60th Avenue and Northeast 82nd Avenue MAX stations, but TriMet crews are working to correct the problems, she says.
Several private programs and events have been canceled or rescheduled. The Multnomah Dental Society rescheduled its annual Free Childrens Health Fair to Saturday, Feb. 22, at Reynolds Middle School from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. The school is at 1200 N.E. 201st Ave., Fairview.
For more information, call the Multnomah Dental Society, 503-513-5010.
OMSI was closed Friday, but the The Empirical Theater opens at 5:30 p.m. for the Portland International Film Festival. Showtimes are available at www.omsi.edu/empirical-theater
The snow and cold didnt deter the Pacific Northwest Sportsmens Show at Portland Expo Center, which remained open Friday and through the weekend.
The Portland Auto Show also was open at the Oregon Convention Center.
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Thursday's winter storm forced schools to close early and left some drivers sliding on slick streets while an east wind blew snow flurries sideways.
The storm crawled north up the Willamette Valley, hitting Eugene, Albany and Salem before drifting into the Portland area. A several-vehicle pileup closed Interstate 5's southbound lanes south of Albany for a couple of hours Thursday morning.
Once the storm hit Portland, local roads turned slick. The area is under a winter storm watch until about 4 a.m. Friday, Feb. 7. The National Weather Service reported that three to five inches of snow could fall in the Portland area before the storm passes.
On Friday and Saturday, another round of moisture is predicted to move in, starting Friday evening and continuing into Saturday, which could mean snow and rain or possible freezing rain in the central Willamette Valley. Saturday may start dry, but light rain may develop over areas south of Portland with an afternoon round of snow or freezing rain in the region area.
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According to the Oregon Department of Transportation, motorists should use extreme caution this weekend. Snow, sleet, freezing rain and wind could create serious problems for travelers in Portland, the Willamette Valley, the Coast Range and the Columbia River Gorge.
ODOT plans to deploy all available tools in its winter arsenal, including plows, sanders and deicers, as appropriate. For updated information about highway work and current travel information throughout Oregon, visit www.tripcheck.com, or call the Oregon road report at 511 or 1-800-977-6368.
Portland General Electric announced Thursday morning that now is the best time to prepare for weather-related power outages and other events. Portland General Electric teamed up with the American Red Cross on its Prepare! initiative, aimed at helping individuals, businesses and communities prepare for emergencies of all sizes. Prepare!, a new multiyear initiative, provides a variety of tools and resources that make simple work of creating emergency kits and putting together a plan in case of an emergency.
"PGE employees are prepared to swing into action if a winter storm hits, and we want our customers to be ready and safe too," said Jim Piro, PGE president and chief executive officer. "Together with Red Cross, we're working to help families and businesses put plans in place to have food, water, light and a heat source available if a power outage were to occur due to a severe winter storm or natural disaster."
Be storm ready
To help prepare for power outages that may occur, PGE customers can visit www.PortlandGeneral.com/Prepare to learn how to put together an outage kit and review tips and ideas. You can also check out its preparedness blog, which covers topics such as safety tips, best picks for emergency food items and more.
PGE recommends all customers have a basic outage kit on hand that includes a flashlight, fresh batteries, a battery-powered or hand-crank radio, a battery-powered alarm clock and a manual can opener. A cellphone car charger for cellphones or a corded, nonelectric phone at home is also important.
PGE customers are also encouraged to take the "Pledge to Prepare" through the Red Cross at www.RedCross.org/lp/pledge-to-prepare. Taking the online pledge offers access to tools and resources to help families create their own disaster plan. They can also download earthquake and first aid mobile apps and purchase ready-made disaster supply kits.
If the lights go out
If an outage occurs, PGE recommends first checking the circuit breaker or fuse box. If breakers or fuses are OK, call PGE. Report power outages by calling 503-464-7777. Mobile phones can also be registered for two-way texting with PGE to report an outage and request a text update. Customers can also visit www.PortlandGeneral.com/Outage for outage updates. Look outside to see if any utility lines are down; if there are, stay away and call PGE. Turn off all electrical equipment to prevent an overload on the system when power is restored.
Tualatin Valley Water District reminded customers of the importance of being ready and avoiding the damaging effects of frozen plumbing. During the last cold snap in December, TVWD received more than 250 weather-related calls. Most calls were emergency shutoffs related to customer plumbing, such as water running out of the ceiling. TVWD wants its customers to be ready for the latest cold snap.
Never thaw a frozen pipe with an open flame. You may start a fire and at the very least, your pipe will burst. Use hot air from a hair dryer, the exhaust from a vacuum cleaner, or a closely monitored heat lamp or electric heater. If your pipes break, shut off the water at the shutoff valve and turn off the circuit breaker or gas to the water heater.
If you have trouble shutting off your water, call your water provider.
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Whether they're called chana, garbanzos or chickpeas, most people are probably familiar with the dried version of this versatile legume. Fresh chana beans however, may be new to many, but are delicious in their own right and deserve to be used more. They taste very different from the canned or dried version; they have a mild sweetness with a light, buttery, tender texture. If you're looking for a snack, fresh garbanzos are a great a source of fiber, protein and iron.
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Jerry Wood, chairman of the Sussex County Republican Committee, died from at his home in Frankford on Friday morning at the age of 73.
Jerry Wood, chairman of the Sussex County Republican Committee, died from at his home in Frankford on Friday morning at the age of 73.
Wood reportedly succumbed to complications from late-stage cancer at about 8:45 a.m.
Wood's death comes one week after he announced he would not be running for a second term as committee chairman, due to health reasons.
The Indiana native had a long career working for the U.S. Department of Defense and other federal government agencies and actively rehabilitated houses in the Washington D.C. area before becoming actively involved in Delaware politics in 2008, according to the a release issued by the Republican committee on Friday.
Wood was elected as chairman of the Sussex County Republican Committee in March after former chairman Glen Urquhart resigned to run an ultimately unsuccessful bid for the District 6 seat in the Delaware State Senate. Wood also served as a delegate to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., in August.
Duke Brooks, the communications director of the committee, said Wood's unflappable and decisive leadership was instrumental in carrying the party through several challenges during the past year.
"It almost didn't matter what the emergency was, Jerry was always calm and remained unperturbed," he said. "And through it all, he always arrived at the best solution that resulted in the right outcome."
One of the biggest challenges the Sussex GOP faced during Wood's term was Georgetown Republican Eric Bodenweiser's decision to withdraw following his indictment on child sex abuse charges.
Immediately following Bodenweiser's announcement, the Delaware Department of Elections rebuffed the party's initial attempt to replace on his name on the ballot with former Georgetown mayor and Republican write-in candidate Brian Pettyjohn.
Wood led a successful legal challenge of that ruling, which held clear the way for Pettyjohn to win the seat in November.
"His quick and decisive action was very important in terms of my election," Pettyjohn said Friday. "I met Jerry several years ago while working with him on some elections before he became chairman, and I always knew him to be a great guy who was very thoughtful and cautious. I'm very sorry to hear of his passing."
Wood's leadership also has been credited with helping the party to win the District 6 state senate seat and the District 20 state representative seat that were added to Sussex County in the most recent election cycle as a result of redistricting.
"Under his leadership in 2012, the Sussex County Republican Party was able to walk through several difficult political challenges and elect Republicans to the Delaware Legislature," John Sigler, chairman of the Delaware Republican Party, said in a statement Friday. "His commitment to strengthening the Party's grassroots network ensured that new faces and talents were brought into the Party and effectively utilized in advancing the cause we all hold so dear."
Sigler said he would always remember the tagline Wood used to at the bottom of all his emails: "It is a great day in America."
"Jerry is right," Sigler said Friday. "Though, today is a sad day in Delaware."
Sussex GOP vice-chairman John Reilly is expected to serve as the committee's acting chair until new officers are elected in March.
Plans for Wood's memorial service are still being finalized.
Brooks said the late party chairman would be laid to rest beside his late wife at the Garden of Remembrance Cemetery Clarksville, Md.
Wood is survived by his brothers, Delbert and Richard, his son Kent and four grandchildren.


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john biles
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov 2012, 09:48
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Legacy OS 2 & 4 are you a User? Who am I developing for?
Subject description: Are real users using Legacy OS
Anyone developing a derivative knows the amount of time it takes to create one.
Over the years I have put a lot of my free time in doing so. Over the last few months I've seen very little interest on the forum except from new Users coming over from seeing Legacy OS on Distrowatch. Now that Legacy OS has dropped out of the top 100, interest in the project will be even less. This leaves me with 3 choices: A new release with real improvements to generate interest on Distrowatch moving it back in to the top 100, updates / new Apps for Legacy OS 2 & 4 or stop the project.
Let's take a look at how I see it from my side. With past releases I imagined a User using Legacy OS and tried as my skills improved to give that user the best experience I could. I was always looking for new and better Applications to be included in the ISO CD. Look and Feel was of equal important and one of the main reasons the project started.
Over the years the project has moved to saving old Pentium III's & 4's from Landfill and that's where I feel the project is of most use. Take an older release add as many useful Apps plus a Modern Web Browser fine tune it and share it with those who want to use it. Make it as modern looking as possible and add usability in to the mix.
A number of Users miss the point of Legacy OS and want it sitting on say a Puppy 5.2.8 base or something like that. Right now how many Puppy derivatives are doing just that? Lots!
As the Hardware Legacy OS is targeted at doesn't change why should Legacy OS. In Legacy OS 2 the selection of great useful Apps put a lot of other distro's to shame. Yes they are not the latest and greatest versions available but in a Pentium III environment they run pretty darn well, are still very usable and turn most worthless Pentium III's in to a very useful tool for a student, poor families or anyone else who can't stand the idea of dumping a still perfectly working computer in to landfill.
As I write this I know there's at least one more release of Legacy OS 2 with updates to Opera and a number of other Apps. Opera 12 with a slimmed down version of QT4 runs surprisingly well in Legacy OS 2. While Opera may be seen as the last choice in an open source world, it is the only HTML5 Web Browser that will run in Legacy OS 2 and I thank the developers of Opera for supporting Linux when other propriety companies don't.
Opera 12 with its included Email client allow Legacy OS 2 Users access to options no Pentium III computer should have.
While I have access to 3 Ghz Pentium 4 computers, my daily driver so to speak is a 667Mhz Pentium III on which all my testing is done. OK I'll admit that it sometimes bogs down with over the top filled web pages, but at the same time its fine with most web pages I throw at it. At work I use an i5 quad core Pentium desktop running Windows 7 and Internet Explorer still drives me crazy while I'm waiting for Web pages to load
Now the question I need to know is just how many of you actually use Legacy OS either version 2 or 4 mini. I will assume that if no body replies then no body is using Legacy OS. It's as simple as that. If you want to see future releases of Legacy OS then have your say now.
Just for the record unlike other forum posts where support for a Derivative hasn't happened and the developer gets frustrated and quits the forum in disgust all angry, this isn't the case with me. I made the decision to start this project and when the time comes I'll make the decision to stop it and do something else.
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Location: Buckeye State, USA
Posted: Mon 26 Nov 2012, 15:28
Post subject: Legacy OS$
Hi John, thanks for asking this question. I had been using Legacy OS4 on my laptop. I also have a desktop, which I run windows on. I have remastered several times, and have finally come up with one that has only what I want. But I gave my laptop to a friend's mother who needed a computer and did not have one available. I put windows xp back on it for her, as I do not know her or live anywhere near her. I also had a spare desktop, which I put my remastered version with no karamba or opera. I gave this old desktop to a neighbor lady who just lost her husband earlier this year. She loves it! It does everything she wants, and is very fast on an old pentium 4 1.8 single core processor. The only problems I found were poor wifi support (fixed with ndiswrapper) and no webcam support. I think if people do not need the webcam support, you can't beat Legacy OS4. Thanks for all your hard work. Rob
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john biles
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 1469
Location: Australia
Posted: Mon 26 Nov 2012, 18:12
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Hello oligin10,
Thanks for replying. You say you remastered Legacy OS 4 many times what did you add / change and why?
Also what does Legacy OS 4 give you other derivatives don't. What am I doing right... Your thoughts please...
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Location: Buckeye State, USA
Posted: Mon 26 Nov 2012, 19:47
Post subject: My changes
Hi John, I removed Opera because after using the update feature built into Firefox, it broke Opera. I don't like or use karamba, and just feel the desktop looks better and is easier for people used to windows if I just put regular desktop icons for Web, Mail, Music, Solitaire, Writer, Files. I also fixed the theme switcher (which I posted in one of the topics how to do so). Other than that, that is all I feel is necessary for anyone who is used to windows xp to feel comfortable using this. I make sure to use nice looking icons which are already on the disk, I think. I may have had to add one or two that I like better. The reason I use the generic names is that I try to keep people from using the menu if possible. I know why you include so many apps, and I'm not trying to have you slim Legacy OS 4 down, but I am trying to make it as easy as possible for people to feel comfortable with immediately. I feel this is the easiest way to convert people to Linux, and especially Legacy. The only other things I do is change back to Teen Pup Mini 2010 theme and change the background. I just prefer them, nothing wrong with what is offered. As far as what you are including that others (Puppy based) don't, I honestly think that K3B is just one of the many reasons. Magic Scripts is very nice. Your selection of programs allows me to pick the ones I like and use them. Thanks again, Rob
P.S. The reason I remastered so many times is that once I had made one change, I burnt a remaster. That way if I made a mistake after that, I wouldn't have to start all over.
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Posted: Tue 27 Nov 2012, 00:55
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Hey John,
I've been way too busy and way to absent lately, but I saw this post and thought I'd reply.
Legacy OS is one of my go-to distros when I'm rebuilding old machines. I don't use it every day, but I have given away several machines running your distro and I will continue to host it on my Puppy site ( which is way overdue for an update).
So just know that I'm on the list of people who enjoy and appreciate your efforts.
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Posted: Tue 27 Nov 2012, 15:07
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I am an end user, I have been using lucid most of this year on an ancient laptop, It put the fun back into computers for me, I found that I was booting the ancient laptop and rarely the old laptop with windows and ubuntu installed.
I decided a few weeks ago to delete ubuntu and have a puppy instead, I now have a stack of CD's with lots of pups, I had not tried legacy, I thought it was for really old hardware, must say you have done a good job, I still need to spend some time with it but so far everything seems to work well.
In my quest for my ideal OS, long term support is a factor, no use falling in love with an OS if it is not updated, I am spoilt for choice with puppy, so many good pups.
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Posted: Tue 27 Nov 2012, 16:28
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I had been using just the old LegacyOS 2010 on my older PIII,...until not too long ago. I switched to the new Wary 5.3 on it,....but it just doesn't have all the bells and whistles that Legacy does, I'm afraid. I just recently added Macpup on my main p4, as well. But I would most definitely be a LegacyOS user again, if a new one comes out!
...and remember about the Distrowatch thing. Every time a lot of newer distros come out,....they always seem to jump to the top of the list, and the ones that are steady, and have been around a while, seem to sink away. For instance,..good distros like Parsix only seem to surface when they come out with a newer one. Then it seems to sink down below the 100 mark with a lot of other good ones.
Now one of the main things I need on my P4 machine, is the 1366x768 display setting. Some of the older Puppies didn't seem to be able to do that (haven't tried Legacy 2010 or newer Legacys on it yet). Wary can do it,..as well as Macpup.
Anyhow,....I'm going in and re-installing Legacy 2010 on my old PIII again right now,...and will get a newer one ASAP. Please don't get discouraged, there are Puppy lovers who love and use your nice distro.
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Posted: Tue 27 Nov 2012, 22:33
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Hi John,
I feel you should be justifiably proud of your efforts on the Puppy2 / Puppy4 front - and I know I am on record for stating this in the past. I still run TeenPupMini2010beta on my Toshiba 3480ct (PIII, 600MHz cpu, 192 Mb RAM) and hadn't really seen the need to upgrade to the Legacy series. Running it through the hoops again recently I realised that I really miss not having Frisbee around - could never quite get wifi configured correctly in TPM2010B, with the Toshie's Broadcom43xx pcmcia modem that other Puppy4's like Fluppy and MacPupFoxy 2 didn't have issue with. But you have discussed the wifi side of things plenty of times in the past, and I quite understand your focus of development can't feasibly address all contingencies. Getting around to downloading Legacy 2 and 4 at long-llast to compare with TPM2010B on wifi and other fronts.
My personal interest in pupplets on that old machine tends to be more to the spartan side - I do have performance issues despite everything jumping well OOTB in TPM2010B - and that is testament to your craftwork in application choice and compilation. So I tend to deactivate Karumba - tends to hog the screen space too, on my lappie I feel - and I don't know what sort of overhead drag that KDE might impose on the operation of the Toshie overall. And I appreciate that with your distros - breaking into poor analogies here - you not only include the kitchen sink
but also
the Italian Granite benchtops, the Gorenje built-in coffee machine, the Meneghini fridge and the Aga wood stove... Ahhhh the luxury! Nonetheless I wonder whether you might consider modularising your Legacy more, so that some applications might be added as an SFS as the user might require, or some seldom-used applications be stripped out at the user's preference, a-la petbegone.I would look forward to a Trinity-based (or SFS for) future Legacies to handle the KDE side of things - but only because I understand that it might be lighter and more efficient than KDE4+ - and not because I have any expertise in that desktop environment. That said, I particularly look forward to Opera12 and QT4 in Legacy that you mentioned in the OP. And with KDE support for my pocket PC's (pc2002 and WM2003), Legacy might well be the only distro that gets the most out of my vintage hardware set.
Proper feedback on Legacy soon,
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john biles
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov 2012, 03:56
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Hello to all replying to this thread,
Please keep posting your thoughts.
I was saving Opera 12 Final with QT4 for the next release of Legacy OS 2.1 but have decided to upload it now to the Repository. You'll also find the Dolphin File Manager (QT3 Version)
To those thinking you'll now be able to install QT4 Apps in Legacy OS 2 this is not the case. It was packaged with Opera 12 and resides in the Opera folder not the normal system folders like /usr/lib It is also a stripped version not containing a full QT4 environment.
On and off over the last few months I've been working on a possible release but now have to decide what direction I want to go. Your words have got me thinking. Please try Opera 12 Final and Dolphin by installing to / and reloading the menu will install in seconds...
Please Note: Not tested in Legacy OS 4 Mini as it comes with Firefox 5 by default and is set to the update channel. Selecting help and version in Firefox will cause it to update to Firefox 16. Easy!
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Posted: Sat 08 Dec 2012, 17:01
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Hey John,
I know you posted this a while back, but in reply, I have about 20 older machines that seem like a good fit for Legacy 2 and 4. A lot going on in life right now, but it's a resale hobby for me that occasionally supplies me with a tank of gas in my Jeep or parts for newer machines. A lot of times we forget to say thanks to all the amazing people in the community like yourself, ttuuxxx, and so many others who make this fun possible.
Legacy remains viable. Don't kill yourself, but keep it coming. I for one will be continuing to use it (I think I've sold two used machines with Legacy OS 2, and plan to try 4 soon on some P4's). It's a worth-while project.
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Posted: Fri 21 Dec 2012, 00:32
Post subject: Legacy OS : Update drivers
Subject description: I enjoy this distro
I used Teenpup then legacy OS. It's one of my prefered , but i cannot connect Internet on my newest computer (atheros atl1c or atl1e is the driver for ethhernet)
For me it's a very good distro with Kde apps.
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Posted: Fri 21 Dec 2012, 13:30
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I have OS 4 dual boot with Windows 2000 on my Itronix Celeron III 512 Mb of ram laptop. I tried 3 or 4 different puppies on it and OS 4 seemed to run the smoothest, fastest and be readable on the crappy 800x600 screen.
To be honest, the laptop doesn't get used much except with Windows 2000. The main time I use OS 4 is when someone else wants to check email or something (to keep them out of all the personal stuff on my Windows 2000).
I'd concentrate on old hardware, for me at least that seems what it is made for.
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Posted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 13:50
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Hi all,
I recently wrote about my fondness for Legacy:
Yes, still using 4 Mini - and no rush at all to upgrade, this will be very serviceable for a few years on my old laptop.
I'm going to buy a new-ish (not new) PC as well, and will likely use Legacy as the primary O/S on that one too. Why not? I could do SUSE or Mint, but I'm most happy and comfortable with Legacy, and on a newer PC, it will be blazing fast.
So if John wants to keep developing, that's great - but feel free to take a nice long break, I won't be looking for major upgrades for a long while.
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Posted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 09:22
Post subject: Legacy OS2 & OS4
Subject description: Keep Legacy going
I use OS2 & 4 and I like them so keep up the small updates now and then. Chrome 12 sounds a good update. I run OS4 & 2 on a 8 year old Celeron 2.4Ghz, IGB memory. The OS's have all the software I need. You're right, there are plenty of distributions for modern PC,s and Legacy is for older PC's which have plenty of life left in them. I can buy Pentium 4's with 500MB memory, 80GB HD and CD drives for only £35 from my local PC shop(inc Windows XP Pro installed).
Don't let Legacy die
All the best.
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Posted: Fri 18 Jan 2013, 13:52
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Hi John. I saw this thread last week and am having a look at Legacy 4 Mini again.
A lot of it works really well and would be a pleasure to use. The only downsides I've seen with it are; 1 / the lack of recognition for ext4, which means you can't save TeenPup Mini to an ext4 partition or read any files which have been saved on one, and 2 / the old version of Abiword (2.6.3) installed by default, which will not open Open Document files properly (though Gnumeric seems fine in this respect);
To be fair. there are workarounds for both these problems; have at least one partition which isn't formatted in ext4, and also save files from LibreOffice in either Word or Excel format instead of Open Office.
Also, this time round the desktop opened with no application icons and all the drive / partition ones stacked on top of one another, though I'm not sure why since it's been fine in the past.
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HANDEL Rodelinda / Fleming, Scholl 0743470
Directed from the harpsichord by Harry Bicket, the orchestra delivers a nimble performance with some attractive pops of 18th-century colour from theorbo, Baroque guitar and recorders. On stage, Scholl's cool Bertarido and Iestyn Davies's mellifluous Unulfo make a pleasing contrast to Joseph Kaisers splenetic Grimoaldo, an antihero rich with psychological fault-lines. As Eduige, Stephanie Blythe displays handsome tones, while Shenyang sings the brutish role of Garibaldo with ťlan . . . Fleming, without whom none of this would be happening, is perplexing . . . an exquisite voice . . .
. . . vocal subtleties achieve their own high definition, and we can better appreciate the period theorbo and recorders that conductor Harry Bicket adds for flavoring in the pit. Via this medium, characters give every sign of communicating with one another, while the producer's agile camera focuses tightly on individual expressions to register the characterizations that are so crucial to Baroque opera's theater of personality. It also helps that this matinťe in December 2011 finds Renťe Fleming, as Rodelinda, and countertenor Andreas Scholl, as the deposed king Bertarido, in stronger vocal form than when the revival opened a month earlier. The soprano invests her high-speed passagework with convincing venom in arias such as "Morrai, sž" and, when the occasion demands, spins a subtle line, easing effortlessly in and out of trills . . . Her portrayal of the attractive, frantic heroine has matured to include moments of regal composure . . . With his poised legato and an idiosyncratic mix of bright and shadowy timbre, Scholl masterfully shapes the hero's mournful "Dove sei, amato bene?" and "Con rauco mormorio" . . . Joseph Kaiser, in the tenor role of Grimoaldo, and countertenor Iestyn Davies, as Unulfo, are welcome newcomers to the cast, while mezzo Stephanie Blythe repeats her effortlessly commanding Eduige . . . [Bicket's conducting is] cultivated and eloquent . . . [Stephen Wadsworth's] production is as telegenic as at the 2004 premiere, cinematic in its fluid use of revolving and elevator stages and refreshing in its focus on storytelling rather than conceptual novelty.
. . . ihr vielseitig cremiger Sopran durfte in unterschiedlichsten Rollen ungebremst strahlen und glitzern . . . Fleming singt ihre Rodelinda mit gleichmšŖig schimmernder SŁŖe . . . Andreas Scholl hat gegenŁber seinem ebenfalls aufgezeichneten BŁhnendebŁt in der gleichen Rolle in Glyndebourne an Sicherheit und Mšnnlichkeit gewonnen. Stephanie Blythe ist als Eduige eine gelšufig-robuste Mezzogurgel . . . Joseph Kaiser im Frack singt den Widersacher als tenorstrahlenden Salonschurken.