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Earth : Asia : South Asia : India : Southern India : Tamil Nadu : Northern Tamil Nadu : Yelagiri
Yelagiri (also spelt Elagiri on some signboards) is a town in Tamil Nadu, a state in the south of India.
Yelagiri, at a height of 920 meters above sea level, stands majestically amidst four mountains. This is a hill station with a salubrious climate prevailing throughout the year so that winters do not keep visitors away. The main inhabitants of the area are the tribals who live in the 14 small villages which comprise Yelagiri. These tribals are engaged in agriculture, horticulture, forestry, etc. - all the occupations of rural hill folk. Their customs and habits, and especially the structure of their houses is unique and attracts a number of tourists to this hill station.
Get in
By car
From Bangalore
Yelagiri is about 150 km from Bangalore and 250 km from Chennai (Madras), good for a four hour bike ride with breaks along the way. Take the NH7 out of Bangalore towards Hosur, turn towards Chennai (onto NH46) at Krishnagiri and continue until you get just before Vaniyambadi. You can see the Hills from quite a distance (on your right). From a break in the highway that comes approx 2 km after the toll gate, turn right into the underpass road that takes you to Tirupathur. Continue some 5 km and at Ponneri Junction take a left to Yelagiri Hills. The routes are all marked with signboards in English.
From Chennai
Yelagiri is about 258 km from Chennai-Tambaram. Take the Poonamalee High Road out of the city to Ponamalee Town. From Poonamalee, take the Bangalore highway towards Vellore. The distance to Vellore is about 140 km and the route passes through Sriperumbudur, Walajapet. Vellore would be a good place to plan a break, there are a lot of eating places right on the highway. From Vellore continue on to Ambur and then towards Vaniyambadi. On the highway about 45 km from the third(counting from Chennai) toll station, watch out for a signboard for "Elagiri - 22 kms". Take a left at this exit. Its easy to miss this left and if you overshoot this you would reach the Vaniyambadi toll station in about 1km. Continue on this road (SH18) till you reach Ponneri junction which has Thirupathur straight and Yelagiri on the left. Watch out for this one as it is easy to miss. (On the left, you'll see a big sign board 'Tamilnadu Tourism Department Welcomes You'. Turn left at this junction, there's a sign board pointing towards Yelagiri.)
The roads are well punctuated with signboards in English, and the roads especially the Chennai-Vaniyambadi stretch are excellent (in 2007). It is fairly safe, watch out for the occasional truck that changes lanes abruptly. The last petrol pump is after you turn left at Ponneri, a little before you start on the ghat section. There are no petrol pumps on the hills.
There are 14 hairpin bends on the ghat road from Ponneri to Yelagiri and the road is pretty narrow so you can't actually park a car to enjoy the view except at some of the wider hairpin bends. Bikes won't have this problem though.
By train
If you are coming by train from Bangalore, Chennai or Coimbatore you have to get down at Jolarpettai Junction.
Public transport
If you prefer to take public transport, buses come from Thirupattur and Jolarpet. You can take a taxi also from these places. You can negotiate for about 1200 INR (2011) to drop you in Yelagiri Hills from Jolarpettai Junction.
Things to remember
Please note there are no petrol stations in Yelagiri, thus you have to fillup the tank at the last available petrol station in the plains (however, try to avoid HP petrol bunk in Poneri because they don't give pure petrol). Except for a few tire changers there are no vehicle repair shops in the hills.
Also, please take your first-aid kit along with your regular medicines, if any, with you. There is a government primary health centre, and a private clinic (in which the doctor is from CMC vellore). The nearest health centre is in Tirupattur.
Get around
As for getting around you may have to make your own arrangements for commuting in the hills. There are auto-rickshaws and a few taxis for hire, but it is a great place for trekkers.
Each village has a Murugar Temple, small and big. At Nilavoor there is a devi temple for Kadavu-Nachiyar, which opens for puja only on Fridays between 11AM and 12PM in the morning. The villagers around believe this Goddess is very powerful and throng the place in good numbers on fridays.
There are 14 hair pin bends named with Tamil Poets(Pari Valivu, Ori Valivu, Kamban Valivu etc...) those leads to Yellagiri Hills. There is a sort of an observatory, after 12th bend with a telescope pointing towards the plains. It is difficult to park a car here owing to the narrow roads. Bikes should be fine.
On the way to the hills, you can see lots of small animals like monkeys, ox, goats, etc. Do not feed these animals as they can be dangerous. Don't forget to carry binoculars with you.
Boating on Punganur Lake
Science / Educational
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Home made honey and jack fruit (on season) are available in Yellagiri Hills. The Home made Honey can be bought from YMCA with good quality and taste. You can trust it to be original. Otherwise you have to check whether its original. There is a small house near YMCA, where you can get pure malai thein (mountain honey). The weekly market (Sandhai) assembles in Athanavoor on Fridays. Again you will find the usual modern cheap plastic wares from the plains are sold, along with a few agricultural products from the hills.
A SBI ATM has been newly constructed near State Bank of India branch in Athanavur village as of August 2009.
Food is not a problem in Yelagiri, except if you are trekking. Otherwise there are a number of eateries offering south/north Indian food at reasonable rates. Branded soft drinks and water bottles are available. Look out for jackfruit - this area has plenty of it available especially in the summer months, and the fruit here is considered very good. Also, there are lots of fruits available each season like guava, custard apple, etc. Try to bargain as much as possible as the locals are very keen. On the contrary, you will also get some fruits near Swamimalai treking spot where the locals will surprise you by giving you more than what you expect.
A few food joints serve authentic Tandoori/Chinese/Indian food
There is a TASMAC (Tamil Nadu State Marketing Corporation) liquor outlet just opposite the entrance to the lake. So have no fears and you do not have to carry your liquor unless and until you are travelling from Bangalore where you have the option of more varieties and you would not want limit yourselves to the limited options available at the TASMAC Wine Shops in Tamil Nadu. Also, immediately after you take the right at Ponneri, you have another TASMAC Wine Shop on the right hand side.
Finding a place to stay without advance booking during weekends is difficult. It is advisable to enquire at a number of hotels beforehand and book in advance. The best time to visit is during weekdays when most hotels are practically empty and hence offer huge discounts. A number of hotels big and small are available on the hill.
There are also a few homestays though these are unlikely to be listed online. The rates for hotel accommodation range from Rs.500/- to Rs.3000/- per room. Make sure you carry enough money (in cash) for your expenses, as the hotels here do not accept credit cards.
BSNL, Vodafone, Aircel and Air tel have excellent connectivity in Yelagiri.
Get out
It is better to move out during the daytime. The hairpin bent road that takes you down (and up) is narrow and there are possibilities of traffic jams due to big buses.


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I really like some features of C# (lambdas and delegates,
out parameters, C#'s variant on generics).
and I really dislike some other features (such as properties or explicit initializations that circumvent the constructor).
But some parts of the language are just plain disappointing. The
enum is the feature at the front of that parade. I'll explain the problem
shortly and show how it can be fixed with a little code. Along the way, I'll also look at a reasonable application of the reflection APIs.
The Problem With C#
The difficulties with the C#
enum stem primarily from its history.
The C#
enum is pretty-much identical to the C++
which was, in turn, based on standard C.
C used used a simple integer to represent an
enum element, and so does C#.
The problem with this integer implementation is that it's too easy to spoof. Any integer can, ultimately
be an
enum, even integers that aren't legal values. Consider the following code (which
compiles just fine resharper doesn't even complain about it):
class foo</a> { public enum Suite { Hearts, Clubs, Diamonds, Spades }; public void dealer() { f( (Suite) 10 ); } public void f( Suite theSuite ) { switch (theSuite) { case Suite.Hearts: /*...*/ break; case Suite.Clubs: /*...*/ break; case Suite.Diamonds: /*...*/ break; case Suite.Spades: /*...*/ break; } } }
f() method fails miserably because
10 doesn't represent any of the actual values
assigned to the
enum elements, so none of the cases will run.
Were an
enum implemented correctly by the language, the foregoing code wouldn't
compile at all. It just shouldn't be possible for
theSuite to not represent a legal
The other problem with C#'s
enum mechanism is that it isn't a real class, as it is in
Java. A C#
enum can't have methods, for example,
or implement interfaces. As we've seen in my
enum-related articles over the past few months,
those facilities are pretty useful. For example, in Java, you can write an
enum that verifies
that all its members exist in a database table that defines the same
enum at the database level (and
vice versa). Because the code verifies itself, you never need to worry about the code and
database getting out of synch with each other. However, you need to define methods in the
enum definition
to pull this feat off.
Fortunately, we can fix all this.
Back before Java had
enums, programmers implemented them using classes. (In fact, Java
are still effectively implemented that way under the covers.)
A Java
enum for
Suite is implemented by the compiler more or less like this:
class Suite extends Enum { public static final Suite HEARTS = new Suite(); public static final Suite CLUBS = new Suite(); public static final Suite DIAMONDS = new Suite(); public static final Suite SPADES = new Suite(); private Suite() }
Of course, you can do exactly the same thing in C# (with minor tweaks to the syntax and naming conventions):
public class Suite : EnumBase<Suite> // I'll explain this superclass shortly { public static readonly Suite Hearts = new Suite(); public static readonly Suite Clubs = new Suite(); public static readonly Suite Diamonds = new Suite(); public static readonly Suite Spades = new Suite(); private Suite() { } }
The private constructor assures that the only four instances of
that can possibly exist are those that are allocated within the class itself (
Suit.CLUBS, etc.). That is, the sort of spoofing I discussed earlier simply isn't possible. If you pass a
Suite reference to a method, that reference cannot possibly
refer to anything other than a legal
Suite element (or
null, of course).
You can also compare using
== without difficulty:
void f( Suite someSuite ) { if( someSuite == Suite.HEARTS ) //... }
A roll-your-own
enum can also implement interfaces, define methods (and constructors which are
used to create the individual
enum elements), and so forth.
You may want to review my other
enum-related articles to see why that's such a good thing.
The only real (and unsolvable) issue is that you can't
switch on a
Suite. However,
you can accomplish the same thing with a series of nested
else statements.
For what it's worth, the presence of a
switch is considered a "bad smell"
in OO systems it's usually an indication that you're not using interfaces as much as you should.
The nullability of a class-style
enum is also a mixed blessing, by the way. Because it is a
value object, a C#
enum can't be
Consequently, a method that takes a standard
enum parameter is assured that there will be something there (even
if that something has a nonsensical value). A class-style
enum can be
null, however, so it's best to put a
if(myEnumArgument == null) throw new ArgumentNullException("myEnumArgument");
or equivalent at the top of every method that takes a class-style-
enum argument.
if statement is probably a better choice than a
Debug.Assert(...) here.
Using the
EnumBase Class to Make an
The only problem with the class-based-
enum approach is the absence of the useful features that are provided
by the language. For example, you can't iterate across the
enum elements, or get a
string that holds the
name. Most of that work is done in Java and C#'s
Enum superclass, but
the C#
Enum superclass isn't much use to us if we're implementing the
enum pattern from
scratch, as it depends on compiler-generated magic.
This problem is solvable by writing our own
EnumBase<T> superclass.
Let's start by looking at how the superclass used. (The listings archive contains all the code I'm about
to discuss.)
A few unit tests demonstrate the facilities supported by the superclass. First, I define a test
using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using NUnit.Framework; using Tools; // the EnumBase<T> is defined in this namespace namespace EnumTest { public class TestEnum : EnumBase<TestEnum> { public static readonly TestEnum FIRST = new TestEnum(); public static readonly TestEnum SECOND = new TestEnum(); private TestEnum() { } }
The main thing to notice is the
EnumBase<TestEnum> superclass. Admittedly, it is odd to
pass the current class name into the generic argument of a superclass, but it's perfectly
legal. I'll explain how to use that class information in a moment, but for now, look at this
parameter as a convenient way to pass a subclass name to the base class.

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I'm going to start off with a question I've struggled with: What do you do when your kids don't clean their rooms?
If you have children that are old enough to think of their bedroom as their own personal space what are your rules—if any—for cleanliness? I know some children are naturally neat and some are naturally—well, let's call it Organizationally Challenged shall we? Me—and I know this will come as a shock—I've got to have it clean. I'm more comfortable when everything is in its place, when the dishes are done and put away, when the room is inviting to use because there is no clutter to distract me and I know right where something is when I need it.
Feeling this way I've wondered what the best policy is when teaching a child to keep his or her room clean. I had an acquaintance, a woman very much like me, who's house was well-ordered but she regularly cleaned her children's bedrooms. She unashamedly admitted it but also added that when her children moved away from home they too began to keep their spaces clean because they'd been used to it for so long that suddenly when mom wasn't there to do it they felt the need to step up and take charge.
It seemed to have worked for her but it sounded fishy to me. I had a hard time thinking that if I took over responsibility for my children's cleanliness that they would naturally absorb this and on that magical day they left to seek their fortunes would turn to me and say, "Thanks for cleaning my room Mom, I'm always going to pick up my socks in gratitude for what you've taught me."
I guess first you have to start with the question of whether having your home clean is important to you. If that's not a priority than I suppose it doesn't matter what condition your kids' rooms are in but most people I've met have at least some threshold, some standard, some basic expectation of cleanliness for their children. Maybe you require everything off of the floor, maybe you require being able to see the floor, maybe you just want to be able to have enough clearance to shut the door but the question is how do you enforce your expectations?
I can't bear to have rooms—even my kids' rooms—dirty and cluttered but I can't justify taking over what I feel to be their job at keeping it clean. My husband suggested something to me early on in our parenting career that I thought was brilliant and have whole-heartedly adopted with our children and has worked pretty well. It can be adapted to various circumstances and levels of strictness and cleanliness. I'd like to introduce you to The Mad Bag.
My Mother-in-law invented The Mad Bag though I was never really clear on its etymological history—whether she used it when she was mad or it made the kids real mad when she brought it out or whether "mad" meant crazy was all rather fuzzy but the point is this: When her kids left things around the house she'd bring out the bag, scoop up the items and pop! They were gone.
It's so simple it's brilliant, I should design The Mad Bag and market it to the masses but the theory is this: if your children care so little about their things as to leave them lying about they forfeit a right to ownership. I don't know if she kept things for good or if the children could win back items for good behavior or buy back the items with money but I've adopted it to fit our needs and it's worked well.
When the kids leave for school I do a sweep of the upstairs bedrooms to make sure things are tidy and if I see things on the floor that shouldn't be there they're mine. Clothes lying in the bottom of the closet? Mine. Underwear that didn't make it to the hamper? Mine. Clothes draped in unusual places? All mine, and sometimes when I'm feeling especially feisty I take toys as well. I keep them (sometimes it takes the child a while to realize something's missing) but once they've discovered it gone they know where it is and when they come looking for it they don't get it back until they can keep things in order for three days with no slips. No slips.
It works pretty well and keeps things clutter free though sometimes, and this happens with me too, things start to build up until the drawers and corners have too many things tucked away and I do a forced "Clean Out Your Dresser Drawers Or I Will" Day.
My own mother did a similar thing. When we came home from school we would take off our shoes, coats and backpacks by the front door. Then after our snack we'd pick things up and put them away. If, however, we failed to clean up our things Mom would scoop up the stuff and throw it outside. Just like that. On the lawn. In the snow. Sometimes we wouldn't discover we'd lost our shoes and coats until the next morning when we were getting ready for school and let me tell you, something about finding your shoes and coat under three inches of new snow has a way of chiseling responsibility into your brain.
So what do you do? If your kids are old enough are you battling this too or do you just go along with your kids' unique attempts at feng shui? Now's the time to give any suggestions that might be helpful or tell what has or has not worked for you. I could use all the help I can get.
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Monday, June 11, 2007
Teaching Children Responsibility: Is Your Room Clean?
I'm going to start off with a question I've struggled with: What do you do when your kids don't clean their rooms?
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37 comments:
- April said...
I have had similiar ideas to your "Mad Bag" but I can't bring myself to do it when I think of the hours of work my husband has labored to secure clothes and such for them. We keep the wardrobe simple so if we loose to many pairs of pants, shirts etc. we will need to buy more..is this a problem for you? Toys are different but again hard to do when it feels like more of a consequence to your husband then the children. What are your thoughts on this?
Something that has helped is to have a regular routine of clean up before meals. If messes are not picked up completely before lunch they do not eat (this has never happened), before dinner same thing and again before bedtime (we discipline here-there is no meal) It is not an easy thing and my children are still young however, I believe we are making strides.
Thanks for this post, I look forward to the insight from other commenters. And sorry for my "book".
- Robin said...
I have a reasonable tolerance for clutter, as long as it isn't actually dirty and doesn't descend into utter chaos, and my 6.5 year old son is reasonably cooperative about cleaning his room when he's reminded that whatever is left out goes up to my room for an indefinite period of time. My problem is a different one though. My 3.5 year old daughter is often the one that makes the mess - not just in her room or the living room, but in his room. He doesn't mind her in there playing with his toys, and I want to foster that sense of sharing and openness, but then I end up doing most of the cleanup because it doesn't seem fair to make him clean a mess he didn't make. I do make my daughter "help", but that generally entails her rediscovering whatever toy/game/something else with 4 billion pieces that it was and wanting to start playing it all over again, which means that I still end up doing the lion's share of the cleanup - preferably when she's not around. The girl has an uncanny way of knowing that the final piece is about to hit the box and comes running to dump everything out again about 3 seconds before it does. There's got to be a marketable skill in there somewhere...
- la bellina mammina said...
The Mad Bag sounds like a good idea though I dn't know if I can bring myself to do it.
We have a housekeeper so all the rooms are usually clean, but when it comes to the boys room, I usually tell them that they won't get their dinner, or we won't go out or do certain things that we've planned on doing if they don't tidy up.
That usually works for me.
- Izzy said...
Have you been spying on me? This particular issue is becoming...well, an issue around my house. My daughter is almost seven and for a couple years now, we've tried to get her to learn how to pick up after herself, even a little bit. And she will with some nagging but if she's managed to make a big mess she just gets too overwhelmed and cries and gets all worked up because "it's toooo haaaaard!"
So then I have to sit in her room and guide her through the process by breaking it down into little steps, which I really don't like to do because I inevitably get sucked into the process and she inevitablly gets sidetracked and starts playing with stuff etc.
If I ask her to pick up a mess in another part of the house, she just takes it and throws it in her room or shoves everything in some spot not readily visible. I know all her tricks by now.
So I do use a "mad bag" technique where I proclaim I'm on my way to grab a trash bag and sometimes it works the way it should but more often than not, she works herself into tailspin and usually just collapes on her bed in tears.
So I'm at a loss. I have no useful suggestions but if anyone has some for me, please share!
- Mary Alice said...
No – I think she has been spying on OUR family. Last night during Sunday Dinner we reintroduced our children to the olde chore chart! Since they are ancient children, 17, 14 and 13 respectively, I had thought they would be able to continue with the chores we have spent a lifetime ingraining in them without being prompted. Ummm, sadly, NO, I was mistaken. If they do not have some visual reminder of what needs to be accomplished on a daily basis, they do not seem to remember to do the item. Apparently at this point in their cognitive development, disorder is not dismaying.
So, consequently we reintroduced the chore chart, complete with areas to check off accomplishment. Instead of collecting gold stars they are collecting the check marks for the privilege of going out on Friday night with friends.
- snarflemarfle said...
We're going to have to deal with this. DH and I aren't super neat but we do try to keep things picked up.
Since our son is still young (16 months) we at least have him "help" us pick up before his bath. It at least helps me!
As for the mad bag, sounds similar to what my dad would do...except his was called the trash can. I found my shoes (that I'd left in the living room) several times in the trash and was able to rescue them before it went out to the dumpster!
- Tim Appleton (Applehead) said...
What ever you do do NOT clean their rooms for them! My dad cleaned ours when we were growing up (3 boys) and we never had to do it(or much else) for ourselves... hence, Stephanie had the pleasure of retraining me at all sorts of different things our first couple years of marriage. I guess that's what she gets for marrying a younger guy! Teach them responsibility when they are young....there is my overcompensating rant for the day....
- Jenn in Holland said...
I grew up with a "Mad Bag" too! We had to buy things back with our "family money" which was earned for getting chores done, being kind, etc.
When I became a mom I tried to instigate the Mad Bag around here too and it worked for awhile but I got called on it one day when my Emma said "you're not really keeping those things forever. You will put them in the garage and then you'll forget and then I will get them back anyway!" And she was right. I wasn't very good at the follow through.
Now that the big kids are older (13 and 11) I have to say I give them a lot of leeway in how they keep their own rooms. As long as the door can shut and I don't have to see it, then we all get along. I can't stand it though, just the knowing what's on the floor gives me the heebies. But I have had to learn to lighten up and give them their own space. Really.
Now, I do insist that MY spaces are kept clutter free, so I do nag about the school bags, shoes, dirty socks, jackets etc. being dumped in the hallway. Or on the stairs. Or in the living room. If it's shared space it must be maintained my way. They can keep their own space in any state of disrepair as it pleases them. But my spots need to be clean. I just function better in clean and clutter free.
Maybe it's time again for the mad bag. I don't know.
- Jenny said...
Lots and lots of baskets and boxes. We try to make it fun for her to put everything up. So far it's not working.
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- My Ice Cream Diary said...
After years of tears and spending entire weekends trying to get the kids to finish cleaning their rooms, I realized that they really had too much stuff. My oldest is very good about keeping her room clean, but my two little boys would take FOREVER. I finally just got rid of, or boxed up thier stuff until they just had enough toys in their room that it wouldn't take more than 5 minutes to clean up. Now they don't mind keeping their room clean because it is manageable for them. I keep toys boxed and put away. When they get tired of the toys they have, we switch for a different box. I've noticed that they play with their toys more, too, because there aren't too many to choose from. This also helps because there isn't much out there for my little 2 year old to mess up after all their hard work.
- M said...
We have the "Mad Bag" at our house as well. But its enforced a little differently. I set the timer in my daughter's room and whatever is left at the end of 15 minutes, I consider 'left out for donation.' It works wonders.
Also, one thing I haven't seen mentioned here is positive reinforcement. When my daughter (4 1/2) cleans her room or makes her bed without being asked I fall down on the floor in "surprise." I am just SO HAPPY that I can't contain my enthusiasm. 9 times out of 10 she will clean up her room just to have heaps of praise piled on her and see mommy fall down on the floor.
Modeling also works well if you have young children. When I make my bed and clean up my room I am sure to comment on how much better I feel when my room is tidy. How happy it makes me to spend time in my room when its not messy, etc.
- dcrmom said...
My kids are too young for me to have a "system" in place yet, but I'm interested in hearing what everyone else does.
My personal experience is that I had a horribly messy room growing up, and I keep a reasonably clean house. I think that your friend's theory might not be so far from the truth, frankly.
At this point, I do elicit help from my 7-y/o son to clean up his room or the playroom. He does a fairly good job and is usually agreeable when asked.
My 4-y/o dd is allergic to cleanup, and it makes me crazy. I have to break it down in small tasks, and I usually do most of it myself.
I have no problem with toys left out "disappearing" after fair warning, and I might implement this in the future.
- chilihead said...
Excellent idea. So far, the kids clean their rooms themselves and they do a fair job. Wild Thing's closet is the biggest problem for us.
I like the idea of the Mad Bag, but I fear I may lose my shoes if I'm not careful. Those things seem to walk all OVER the house.
- Summer said...
We tried a toy jail, a big box inthe garage where toys that were left thrown about went. The result: they didn't really care and just found something else to leave laying all over thehouse. *sigh*
- Daisy said...
Your "mad bag" makes me sound like wimpy mom. I will add, however, that I have a strict laundry policy. If it needs washing, it better be in the hamper on laundry day. I will not go through the pile of socks on the floor.
I've been impressed by how well La Petite keeps her room at college and at home on breaks. It's definitely a sign of growing up.
- Cagey said...
Great ideas! It reminds me of your method of dealing with homework. Being responsible for oneself? What a novel concept! ;-)
I do think that once kids get to a certain age - say tweens or teens, that their room should be to their level of cleanliness (the rest of the house should be to whatever standards YOU hold - not negotiable). My exceptions would be dirty dishes. I will never compromise on that because 1) it's gross and 2) a bug magnet.
- Leslie said...
Julia is three and already seems to have a tendency toward order and cleanliness. When I was a child, I did not. I was messy. My room was messy, but it was my room and I could keep it the way I wanted. It was my area and the mess had to stay there. There was trouble if it leaked out. But soon, I started to experience consequences of the mess. I stepped on my records and broke them. I couldn't find the pieces to my games. My friends didn't want to play in it when they came over. Soon, I got it and started to keep my room clean. It was a good lesson I've never forgotten.
- Prahagirl said...
This works wonders on college roommates as well :) Although more modified to a "if-your-stuff-is-in-the-community-areas-it-gets-relocated-to-your-bed-mold-and-all" type of rule. :)
It worked really great!
- Melissa R. Garrett said...
YES! I have a "Mad Bag" of sorts, too. Whenever my kids see me traipsing through the house with a box of any shape and size, they get really nervous. REALLY nervous.
We are having a garage sale this weekend while the kids are away with their grandparents.
- Marie N. said...
I have used this idea with some success too. Clothes are cleaned up almost all the time. Shoes, less often. I got a sly smile at the thought of tossing them in the snow.
Still, one child tends to be a pack rat, so sometimes we need to go through her room and decide together whether she is getting too old for some of her keepsakes.
- Amy said...
Dang, your mom was HARD CORE! Throwing your stuff on the lawn, that is unbelievable!
My mom had to always keep her things tidy and hated it so when we were growing up, she let us do whatever we wanted in our room. There were moldy plates and cups and trash everywhere. We ruined everything and she had a hard time with it, but it was our own stuff and she let us do that in our own room.
I am not at the stage where I have thought about it yet, but you have my wheels turning. I like the bag idea and think that is definitley something we could try....Or I could just start chucking crap in the snow (hee, hee)
- An Ordinary Mom said...
The Mad Bag, another brilliant idea from Scribbit. So far my daughter loves to have things clean and even my two year son will help pick things up. However, I am definitely keeping this idea in mind.
- mcewen said...
Bribery and corruption wins out here - they're still little though.
They have a schedule board with rocket shapes Velcrod in place for each daily job [chore]. Until each rocket 'lands' indicating completion then no playing or any other preferred activity is available.
Cleaning is a long way away for us, but we do attempt 'spill clean up.'
- Amy W said...
I have actually used the "mad bag" with my oldest, who is almost 4. It really does get her cleaning up.
What I really need to start doing is include it in our nightly bedtime routine. Since my kids are younger and thrive on routines, I should really be taking advantage of this.
- Morning Glory said...
When our girls were little, we had what we called "The Saturday Box". Anything that was not put away or taken to their room when they went to bed got put in the Saturday Box and kept until Saturday. At that point they received it back and had to put it away. Sometimes that would be their favorite book, toy, jacket, lunchbox, whatever. Sometimes they lost it on Monday and had to wait the whole week. It actually was a pretty effective tool for them as children.
Cleaning their rooms was expected, but they didn't have to be perfect. Just beds made and good walking space with clothes put away. I felt they did learn about cleanliness even though they didn't practice unclutteriness all the time.
Now.....as teenagers, I gave up the fight and simply closed their bedroom doors. They were both instructed in the same way and one daughter was tidy, one was not. The untidy one is still untidy in her own home. But there's love, laughter and a lot of fun in her home.
Sorry that got so long.
- Alexandra said...
We always had a very clean house, and it definitely rubbed off on me. I was accustomed to having things very clean, so I carried on the same way when I left home.
We lived overseas and had maids...I learned to clean by watching the maids. There is an art to it...speed cleaning, getting it done efficiently.
- Jen said...
We call the mad bag the "Silent Butler." The Silent Butler comes around to clean from time to time, and the toys disappear, usually to be donated. That's for stuff outside the bedroom. A is responsible for keeping his room clean (J is still too young). If A is unable or unwilling to keep his room clean and tidy, then I'm more than happy to do it for him and I charge $1/hour, minimum one hour. He gets no warning as to when I will clean his room; if he's lucky, I might mention his room is looking a bit unkempt. It's still a work in progress; we have sooo many issues with A to work on that bedroom cleanliness is somewhere below "please for the love of God get dressed 'cause otherwise you're going to school naked so help me." ; )
- G's Cottage said...
Wow, where would I start? Am I "cleanie" to use Sandra Felton's term? At heart I feel better in order than chaos but I don't see like "cleanies". Knowing this about 20 years earlier would have been a tremendous boost to my self worth. But that's life. I don't see because I grew up in such unbelievable domestic chaos that I developed a knack for tuning out and remembering to only bring a couple of generous, tight-lipped friends around the house.
So while all of us have struggled together to stay on top of the daily clutter, we wash and paint walls, we wash rugs every year (at least) because we like bare feet, we flip mattresses every month and so forth.
Like many other commenters we were more "rigid" in the younger training years and looser when the room was more their domain. Although seasonally all rooms got a mom cleaning to get stuff like pet hair out of the carpet margins, and reset the standards, etc.
We also figured out that too much stuff on the floor was a sign of too much stuff when we noticed that stuff on the floor had been moved out of the way to get to the desired toy/object. We also did not like toy chests for two reasons: they hold too much stuff and nothing can be found without pulling everything out.
We used to have "mad 15s". These were for emergencies when we couldn't bear to go to bed with the family room inundated. Generally it became a crazy race and when the bell went off everyone would be laughing on the floor. But it looked like civilization returned, at least.
Another tradition we developed was each fall to have a toy reduction. As they grew some toys were no longer appropriate, birthdays had brought new ones and Christmas would be bringing more with our extended families. So everybody went through and decided whether something was special to box and keep, pass down, toss if broken, or give away. Sometimes it was hard but usually they were relieved because on their shelves were the things that were meaningful, useful and findable.
As for laundry, I remained in charge but they each had a color-matching hamper and basket. Their clean laundry was sorted unfolded into their basket on the laundry table. It was their job to get it back to the room and into the drawers. Eventually, they were expected to keep laundry moving through the cycle and sort at the end. So they were familiar with the different steps but laundry was still common. Upon graduating from high school the graduate was responsible for doing his/her own laundry but could request a singular item join one of my like loads (if only used one dress shirt a week s/he could add it to our permapress load to save water). It was worth the little bit of water and electricity to not hear "but my favorite _____ isn't clean for tonight."
Over the years our goals and methods evolved as we got more experienced, but we never denied a child food as a consequence of cleanliness or neatness because we believe it sends the wrong message. Hungry children feel deprived and unloved not regretful of their actions; and they can develop lack of trust that the adults in their lives will provide for their needs. (However, willful unpleasantness at the table got them removed but in those very few cases the correlation between what they did and the consequences were more direct.)
And at the moment it looks like we're going backwards but we downsized, and people have been coming and going, and we got bunches of stuff from the grandparents that takes time to sort (and actually pitch). So don't show up unannounced for a while. And ditto on "forgive my book".
- Bonnie Jacobs said...
Mary Alice: Apparently at this point in their cognitive development, disorder is not dismaying.
Jenn in Holland: As long as the door can shut and I don't have to see it, then we all get along.
M: When my daughter (4 1/2) cleans her room or makes her bed without being asked I fall down on the floor in "surprise." I am just SO HAPPY that I can't contain my enthusiasm. 9 times out of 10 she will clean up her room just to have heaps of praise piled on her and see mommy fall down on the floor.
Cagey: I do think that once kids get to a certain age - say tweens or teens, that their room should be to their level of cleanliness (the rest of the house should be to whatever standards YOU hold - not negotiable).
Amy: My mom had to always keep her things tidy and hated it so when we were growing up, she let us do whatever we wanted in our room. There were moldy plates and cups and trash everywhere.
Morning Glory: "The Saturday Box" ... Anything that was not put away or taken to their room when they went to bed got put in the Saturday Box and kept until Saturday. ... Now as teenagers, I gave up the fight and simply closed their bedroom doors.
I think these are some of the best ideas in the bunch, and others of you said about the same thing. Mary Alice, I love your way of saying it, that kids go through a stage when "disorder is not dismaying." That's great!
Now the good news -- during their teen years, one daughter was the "good girl" who did whatever she needed to do, the other daughter rebelled against everything asked of her, and my son's favorite way of cleaning was to shove it all into his closet. I learned to keep the door closed to the room of the rebel, whose floor was covered with clothes with (sometimes) dried pizza pieces or unfinished Colas under the layer of clothes. Nobody ever said raising teens was easy.
The rebel is now in her late 40's, married, with three children. All of her adult life, she has kept a beautiful house! She grew up. Granted, it doesn't always work out, but there is hope and I offer it to all of you.
Oh, for the record, my other two turned out to be neat adults, as well.
- sara - The Estrogen Files said...
YES YES YES!! A woman after my OWN heart. I do the throw it outside thing and the kids hate it. Mostly it's backpacks that get out there, but it drives them crazy.
As to the taking things away, I do this with laundry that is clean but mysteriously in the dirty bag. It's MINE. I've got to come up with some good ideas for the cluttery toys, too. I'll be looking forward to reading some conclusions from your end.
- chelle said...
Adding this one to my list of future parent survival tips!
- :: Suzanne :: said...
When I discover disorder in their bedrooms all activity stops until order is regained. Late for a meal? too bad. Late for school? too bad. Late for bedtime story-time? too bad. They only have beds and clothes in their rooms (no toys), so it doesn't take long to tidy them up.
Toys are all in the playroom. I've posted about this at Toy Jail. When we discover we are often sending toys to jail, it is obviously time to thin the herd. Each kid gets a paper grocery bag and instructions to fill it with things to be given away.
- Natalie C. said...
What would you do about a husband who is worse than the kids???????? If I took every piece of clothing my husband didn't throw in the hamper, every book & paper he left out, he would still never change. If anyone has coping strategies on that, I'd take them. But at least if you succeed with your sons, you know you are doing your daughter-in-law some major favors!
This is my first visit to your blog. It's great! I will probably stop by again.
- Lill said...
I live with 3 people who have ADHD bigtime. We have a laundry basket in each common room and that's where their stuff goes when it gets in the way of cleaning or relaxing. When it gets full, I let them know and they either empty it or I do - on their bed or in my dh's case, on his side of the our bed. It's not meanness on my part. I do it because they've told me that they want me to do it so that they'll notice it and put it away. And they do, or they don't have room to sleep. The kids' rooms are pretty messy, but they use several laundry baskets to contain stuff and put them in the closet when they have guests over. Sometimes, we'll all decide that there's just too much STUFF in their rooms, hoe it out, give some of it away and put some of it in the garage for later. I wash the clothes, dry them, fold them and put them on the folding table. They either find them there and wear them or put them away. I don't care which they do as long as they wear clean clothes. My son (17) does his own laundry, but I often throw some of his in with ours, because he'd do the same for me. I try to remind myself that our relationship is more important and will last longer than stuff does. That's all that clutter is: someone else's clutter where I don't want it. My stuff, as George Carlin would say, is MY STUFF. Their stuff is - well, listen to the cd. I found you via the COFL.
Shine On,
- Husbandhood said...
I've tried this in the past and it worked quite well. My son didnt want to put away all his hot wheels cars so I said to him that whatever doesnt get put away gets taken away. He put everything away.
I like the bag idea. I think we would use a rubbermaid tub.
- Bernardita Infante said...
Great article! i really like this article because it gives us more knowledge of being cleanliness. This is also the best thing that we should teach our children a responsibility, to clean there own room. and i also believe in that saying cleanliness is next to godliness. and aside from that we are not easly get diseases. If we always clean.:) keep up the good work. thanks for a such wonderful information:)


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The iconic seafood restaurant walks fine line between traditional items and new flavors.
In southern New England, selling seafood by the seashore is a little like catching fish in a barrel.
Waterfront restaurants with a reputation for good seafood are as sought out in the summer as pumpkin farms offering hayrides in the fall. But even an iconic seafood restaurant has to keep up with customer's changing tastes, said Lobster Pot owner Jeffrey Hirsh.
With a prime spot overlooking Mount Hope Bay in Bristol, R.I. the Lobster Pot is one of those go-to spots for dining on the freshest of New England's seafood with a view to match. And it's frequented almost as much by southeastern Mass residents as those on Rhode Island's East Bay, said Hirsh, who bought the Lobster Pot 28 years ago from descendants of the Brownells, who founded it in 1929.
Over the years, Hirsh said he made changes to the interior and updated menu items as tastes changed. And decades before the Buy Local movement changed diners expectations, Hirsh said he was an ardent believer in buying from area purveyors: seafood caught from fishing boats from Newport to New Bedford, and in the summer, produce grown on area farms.
And now, the Lobster Pot is undergoing another renaissance with a new expanded menu with dishes to please their loyal customers who have frequented the restaurant faithfully for decades, and fare to attract new generations. Some of the new additions to the menu include Pepper Seared Tuna Steak; Shrimp and Chourico Saffron Ragout with Linguini; Roasted Cod with Seafood Bread Pudding topped with lobster butter; and Vanilla Curry Scented Seared Salmon served with Jasmine Rice and Pickled Apple Salad. There's also more choices on the Raw Bar and new appetizers (Crab, Artichoke, Cheese Dip) and lighter menu items including a Clam Roast with grilled bread, that's already become a hit with their diners, he said.
"There's so many new, trendy restaurants around. As a long-standing restaurant, we walk a fine line adapting to new trends and staying true to our traditional dishes," said Hirsh.
And topping the list of those long-standing dishes is lobster: broiled, grilled and boiled, and in the Lobster Saute and the Baked Stuffed Fisherman Style for those who prefer not to shell it themselves. There's also the ever-popular lobster salad roll and plenty of seafood favorites still on the menu including baked stuffed shrimp, broiled scrod, fried clams, oysters and New England Scallops Nantucket, a baked, crumb-topped version with sherry and cheddar cheese.
The menu is 80 percent seafood, said Hirsh, but there's also plenty of beef and chicken dishes, as well as some vegetarian offerings (Grilled Vegetable Plate) and several gluten-free items that are noted on the menu for those who are avoiding gluten. "The beauty of this menu is that most of the dishes can be done to please a variety of diets — we have that flexibility," said Hirsh of the restaurant's willingness to meet with their customers' dietary needs.
Over the past 28 years, Hirsh said some parts of the restaurant business have remained the same, but one thing has changed. "It used to be that if you had good food at a fair price that you'd survive, but that's not good enough anymore," he said.
Nowadays, he said they have to stay current with a variety of aspects of the business, from the menu and decor, to cocktails for changing tastes and all the while, not turning away loyal customers.
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Asa Jones, the 40-year-old owner of the Live Love and Dance Studio in Middletown, was arrested on identity theft charges on Thursday after a month-long investigation found that she used a customer's debit card number to pay for a hotel room during a trip she took to California and other purchases.
An Elkton, Md. woman who owns the Live Love and Dance Studio in Middletown was arrested on identity theft charges on Thursday after a month-long investigation found that she used a customer's debit card number to pay for a hotel room during a trip she took to California and other purchases.
On Feb. 4, New Castle County Police Detective Perry Sorrels was assigned to a case involving the unlawful use of a credit card, police said. Since the case was assigned, detectives learned that , Asa Jones, 40, of the 200 block of Patriots Way in Elkton, Md., and owner of Live Love and Dance Studio on W. Main St. in Middletown, had used the credit card information of one of her customer's to purchase airplane tickets, a hotel room, and a helicopter ride while on her trip to California.
The 35-year-old Townsend woman, whose credit card Jones used, was the mother of a student at the Live Love and Dance Studio who had been attending the studio since the end of last summer, said Cpl. John Weglarz Sr., spokesman for the New Castle County Police Department.
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GARY Bowyer says Blackburn Rovers face a 'big summer' as they bid to avoid financial fair play sanctions in January – but he expects less transfer activity than a year ago.
The Rovers boss knows he faces a delicate balancing act this summer as he bids to reduce the club's wage bill again, while bringing in players to improve results.
Rovers have already put six players – Leon Best, DJ Campbell, Dickson Etuhu, David Goodwillie, Alex Marrow and Jordan Slew – on the transfer list and must move on some of their high earners before the Football League's new financial fair play regulations come into force.
Clubs falling foul of the rules face a transfer embargo from January onwards, and Rovers have been shedding players for some time in preparation for the new regulations.
"It's going to be a big summer for us because obviously financial fair play comes in," Bowyer said.
"We're aware of what we've got to do and we're trying to implement that now.
"We've released quite a few players throughout the course of the year, I think it's been 26 in total.
"We've made inroads on that wage bill but we're not kidding ourselves, we know it's still got to be addressed.
"But at the same time we've got to make sure we're still competitive, as we were last season."
Discussions are ongoing between clubs and the Football League over possible changes to the rules, but as things stand Rovers will face a transfer embargo in January if they post a loss of more than £3m for the 2013/14 – with a further £3m loss permitted via shareholder investments.
Rovers have significantly reduced their wage bill by moving on the likes of Danny Murphy, Nuno Gomes, Morten Gamst Pedersen, Gael Givet and Scott Dann in the past 12 months.
But the club announced a pre-tax loss of £36.5m for the financial year ending June 30, 2013. The club's wage bill stood at £36m at that stage.
Bowyer still wants to add players this summer but does not expect the same number of signings as 12 months ago, when the newly appointed manager was reshaping his squad to fit his own ethos.
"Last season I think we brought 14 in during the summer and I don't think we'll be doing that again," he told Rovers Player.
"But we fell short of the play-offs so we feel we need to add a little bit more."
Bowyer's plans for next season are already being formulated and he hopes the positivity of a 12-match unbeaten run at the end of the 2013/14 campaign can be retained.
"I'd like to think there's a lot more positivity about the place at the moment," he said.
"We still feel there's a hell of a lot to do both on and off the pitch.
"We've laid the foundations for things to progress and hopefully we can do that this summer and go again.
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Detailed in the Anchorage Daily News, a young woman named Maria Pestrikoff plummeted sixty feet off a cliff when she was walking while texting. According to the account of the incident, she was attempting to write a text on her cell phone when she walked near a cliff to flick a cigarette butt off the edge. Her home is located near the cliff, thus it's likely that she commonly uses the cliff to discard old cigarette butts when outside. While she was occupied with sending a text message, Pestrikoff lost her footing on wet grass and quickly fell onto a dangerous, rocky area on the Kodiak beach below.
Luckily discovered by her friend Anthony Burke, Pestrikoff was spotted between large boulders along the beach. While Pestrikoff was shrieking in pain, both the Bayside Fire Department and Kodiak Fire Department were called to the scene in order to attempt a rescue from above.
While some of the firefighters were able to descend to her location using an aluminum ladder, others eventually had to rappel down the side of the cliff in order to stabilize Pestrikoff and lift her to safety.
Fortunately, the firefighters were able to remove Pestrikoff from the rocky terrain prior to the tide coming in to cover the rocks. Just ten feet away when she was moved away, the freezing cold water could have escalated her injuries with the threat of hypothermia. Regarding the incoming water, Burke stated "The tide was right up to her toes by the time they were able to get her out."
Placed in a stretcher, Pestrikoff was transported to Providence Kodiak Island Medical Center in an ambulance before being flown to an Anchorage hospital. After falling on September 17, Pestrikoff is still in the Anchorage hospital recovering from her many injuries. This incident is somewhat similar to the Texas student that drove off a bridge while texting "I need to quit texting," as well as the woman that walked off a pier into Lake Michigan while attempting to send a text message.


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best news all offseason! this is definitely a step in the right direction. hopefully this weight loss and new throwing motion will jump start his career! I WANT IT NOTED THAT I STILL FAVOR GRADKOWSKI BECAUSE HE IS A LEADER THAT THE TEAM NEED!!!!
Turiaf is hilarious, yah like i said i root for the warrios because they in Oakland but kings were my team and bibby was my fave player and kevin martin well now there both gone but i watch them from time to time, my blood sweat and tears only go to one team and thats the Raiders any other sports team i can honestly give two shits about!!!
i go on yahoo.com daily and i like the nba im not a diehard kings fan but i watch them and the warriors time to time or basketball in general im going to a warriors game this tuesday so should be kooo
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Check this shit out. Now perhaps I am reading into this. But it seems odd that he put NFL and not Raiders. I can't imagine there would be a copyright infringement problem. Even if there were, why would the Raiders mind if he put the name of the team that has made him a franchise QB? I think it says more to the fact that he only cared about making it tot he NFL and getting paid. His play certainly shows that.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeyMZaporX8&feature=player_embedded#
fuck that tub of shit! God blessed you with the tangibles to become a great QB and your throwing it all away! god didnt buy you that jewlrey or those earings or your car he gave you a gift that he doesnt give to many people that is to play in the NFL at a level that is respectable and you havent showed that! therefore your a fat tub of lard ass!
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Source: O'Neal Foundation Papers. #20.1.a
Staff Person: Jonathan Dembo
At first sight, the photograph above shows a typical, normal, prosaic, civic event: the ground-breaking ceremonies for a new building; a home for the family of William Benjamin "Ben" O'Neal. Upon closer examination, however, it represents an astonishing triumph of charity, goodwill, and community spirit over murder, hate and despair in one southern town, Greenville, North Carolina. The photograph is from the O'Neal Foundation Papers, a collection that documents the selfless and tireless voluntary efforts of hundreds of individuals, businesses, and organizations in the Greenville area, to aid a single family, devastated by sudden tragedy. Together they collected nearly $3,600 for the house and lot. This sum does not count the many thousands of dollars of labor and materials contributed by numerous individuals, businesses, and organizations. In addition to the photograph, the papers also include the by-laws, minutes of meetings, correspondence, financial reports, resolutions relating to the O'Neal Foundation.
The photograph shows O'Neal's widow, Virginia, in the first row of onlookers behind Earl Addler, commander of the Greenville Veterans of Foreign Wars post, the man on the left wielding a shovel; her mother-in-law Mrs. William Benjamin O'Neal, Sr. is seen between Mr. Addler and Ty Wagner, the man on the right with a shovel, who was commander of Pitt County Post 28 of the American Legion. The home was located on Wiley Street where Ben and Virginia O'Neal had hoped someday to build a dwelling.
The result of months of preparations, the O'Neal Foundation ground breaking took place Tuesday afternoon 21 June 1949. Plans were drawn by C. B. West, Jr., who oversaw the work as chairman of the Foundation's building committee. The five-room house had a large living room and kitchen, two bedrooms and bath. It had porches on both the front and back.
The inspiration for both the O'Neal Foundation and the ground breaking ceremony was a crime of the most horrific nature. Ben O'Neal, a 29-year-old taxi driver, was brutally murdered early Sunday morning, 6 February 1949. O'Neal, a World War II veteran with only a grade school education, had enlisted in the Army in September 1942. Wounded in combat, he had spent 15 months as a German prisoner of war, before returning home in October 1945. Upon his return to Greenville, North Carolina, O'Neal had married Virginia Dixon, also of Greenville. O'Neal and his wife were expecting their first child at the time of his death. The couple shared a home with O'Neal's widowed mother. Meanwhile, O'Neal had started training to be an auto mechanic and had begun to put down money on a lot on which they hoped to build a home. After school hours, O'Neal had taken a job driving a taxi for Moyer Taxi Service to support his wife and widowed mother.
O'Neal's bright hopes and those of his family were not long lived. He was brutally murdered in the early hours of Sunday, 6 February 1949. Witnesses reported having seen O'Neal pick up two African American youths as fares on the night before. According to later testimony, the two men directed O'Neal to drive to a lonely, rural spot between Greenville and Grimesland where they robbed, tortured and killed him. The body was discovered soon after by Leroy Smith, an African American, who reported his discovery to the police. Pitt County Sheriff Ralph Tyson revealed to the press that there was evidence that O'Neal had defended himself vigorously before being overwhelmed with numerous wounds to his arms, face, and back. Signs showed that he had been beaten to death with a brick and sticks and had been tortured both before and after death.
The investigation, led by Sheriff Tyson, in the cooperation of the State Highway Patrol, the Greenville and Washington police departments, was a model of efficiency. By Sunday night Sheriff Tyson had one suspect in custody: Lloyd Ray Daniels, 18. On Tuesday morning they also arrested Lloyd's cousin, Bennie Daniels, aged 19. Both men were African American farm laborers and from the vicinity where O'Neal's body had been found. Both men had wounds and bruises consistent with a recent struggle. The sheriff said that both men had confessed in writing to killing O'Neal during the course of a robbery which netted them a mere $3.00. The confession was later used in the trial of the two men.
The brutality of the crime shocked and stunned the community in Greenville and Pitt County. Contrary to what might have been expected, there was no outburst of racial antagonisms as a result. There was no effort to blame an entire community for the crime of a few individuals. There were no "revenge" crimes reported. Most surprising of all, within days the shock and surprise were replaced by an almost magical upwelling of community and charitable feeling. Instead of focusing on the desire for punishment and revenge, the community responded by focusing on the plight of the surviving O'Neals whose devastating loss touched the hearts of a wide section of the community. It helped that leaders in the White community stepped forward to lead and channel this feeling. Educator J. H. Rose of Greenville, prominent citizen Charles B. Corey, and then-Mayor J. H. Boyd, Jr. started the campaign to assist the O'Neals. Soon, hundreds of businesses, organizations, and individuals joined the effort with offers to help the O'Neals. Veterans organizations, including the VFW and American Legion, also took the lead, to honor the memory of one of their own.
Heartened by the overwhelming public response, Mayor Boyd called a meeting of representatives of the city's civic groups which organized the O'Neal Foundation. Even so, it was nearly too late. By the date of the meeting, on 9 February, American Legion Auxiliary Post 28 was already beginning its own campaign to raise funds to provide a home for O'Neal's widow and mother. At the meeting, Boyd announced that 19 February would become "O'Neal Foundation Tag Day" and asked each citizen of Greenville to buy a tag to honor the memory of the community's veterans.
Once the foundation was established, even more donations of money began flowing in from hundreds of people, including both Whites and African Americans, in Pitt County and surrounding areas. Some donations came from people in communities hundreds of miles away, and many offers came from carpenters, bricklayers, painters and others who offered to give free time to construction of a house for the O'Neals. Architect C. B. West, Jr. volunteered to draw up the plans for the four-room house free of charge, and when the construction work on the bungalow began, in June 1949, he supervised its construction.
By the time the O'Neal Foundation was incorporated as a non-profit corporation on 9 June 1949, the Foundation had a total of $3,509.92 in cash on hand to pay for the project in addition to thousands of dollars of material and labor offered by various tradesmen and business concerns in the area and construction work was ready to begin. By the following year, when work on the O'Neal home was completed and the family was living in it, the Foundation reported that it had raised a total of $3,595.92. That proved more than sufficient. Even after paying the balance of what the O'Neals owed on the lot and after paying the fire insurance premium on the house, $623.13 remained unspent.
According to the by-laws of the O'Neal Foundation, the house and property of the Foundation were to be for the use of O'Neal's widow and mother as long as they lived, and then to be transferred to O'Neal's unborn child when it came of age. The charter provided that if O'Neal's child did not live, the property would revert to the foundation after the deaths of Mrs. O'Neal, Sr. and Mrs. O'Neal, Jr., to be used to aid other destitute families of deceased World War II veterans.
After three weeks construction, the home was ready for occupancy. On the afternoon of 23 June 1949, in a ceremony on the porch of the new bungalow, former Mayor J. H. Boyd, Jr. presented O'Neal's wife and mother with the keys to their new home. Even as the ceremony was taking place, workmen were busy completing the home. In making the presentation, Boyd assured the young widow that she, her mother-in-law and her yet unborn child were in the prayers of the Pitt County community. Representatives of various civic organizations which had been active in the O'Neal Foundation project witnessed the presentation of the key to the house.
The O'Neal story does not end there. The construction on the O'Neal home occurred just days after the trial O'Neal's accused murderers. The Daniels' trial drew statewide attention to the Pitt County Courthouse when it opened on 30 May 1949. The courthouse was thronged with hundreds of people hoping for a chance to view the trial. It also featured a number of novelties for the time and place. According to press reports, it was the first Pitt County trial in 43 years in which two persons were jointly charged and tried and convicted of murder in the first degree in a single case. It was the first case in Pitt County history in which both Whites and African Americans – Travis M. Allen of Greenville — served on a jury in a murder case. The Daniels case was also the first in which a woman –Mrs. Willie Duning of Bethel — served on a jury in a murder case. Had not an African American woman disqualified herself from jury service, because of her conscientious objection to the death penalty, the case would also have been the first in which both White and African American women served on a murder case jury. While not unprecedented, the case was unusual, too, for the fact that both defense attorneys – C. J. Gates, of Durham, and Herman L Taylor, of Raleigh, were also African Americans. The prosecutor, W. J. Bundy and his assistant, J. H. Harrell, by contrast received little attention.
After four days of preliminary motions and jury selection, including extremely unusual night sessions, testimony in the case finally began on Friday morning 3 June. By continuing to hear evidence over the weekend, the case moved to a swift conclusion on Monday, 6 June, when Judge Clausen L. Williams reviewed the evidence and gave the case to the jury just before 7:00 PM Monday evening. After deliberating for only 40 minutes, the jury foreman, Fred J. Broadwell, read the jury's verdict of guilty of murder in the first degree for each of the defendants. Afterwards, the jury members told the press that they had agreed on the verdict on the first ballot. Without further ado, Judge Williams then sentenced both defendants to death in the electric chair and set the execution date for 15 July to allow the defendants enough time to appeal the verdict.
Nor did the story end there. Indeed, it grew to have even greater regional, national and historical significance. The Daniels cousins appealed the verdict through the various state courts, eventually reaching the State Supreme Court, which rejected their appeal on a technicality. The North Carolina Communist Party organized a "Daniels Defense Committee" which made a spirited defense in these appeals cases over the next three years. The Committee tried to deflect suspicions from the Daniels cousins and on to others. They pointed out potential errors during the trial. They argued that African Americans had been excluded from the grand jury that indicted the Daniels cousins. The Defense Committee argued that the police had failed to properly investigate the scene of the crime. They suggested, for instance, that the defendants were under-aged and not 18 and 19 as described by the police and that a mystery woman's footsteps leading from the scene of the crime had never been investigated by the police. The Defense Committee also argued that the Daniels' confessions were fraudulent or forced, since the cousins were both illiterate. They tried to undermine the victim's reputation and that argued that O'Neal was known as a notorious womanizer who had been seen with a married woman on the night he was murdered, and that O'Neal may have been involved in a car race on the night he died. None of these arguments seemed to work although they did result in a number of media reports. The Daniels Defense Committee continued their appeals through the federal courts all the way to the U. S. Supreme Court. However, in 1953 the Supreme Court denied the Daniels' final petition. The defense, however, was never able to provide any hard evidence to back up these claims in court and the Daniels were executed in the North Carolina electric chair on 6 November 1953. The Daniels' trial and their appeals remain important in legal history, especially its implications for the selection of grand juries and the use of confessions at trials. It was also important in the history of the Communist Party in North Carolina and continues to be cited in works on the Party.


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