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What does it take to start a podcast? How do you know whether podcasting is right for you?
These are great questions to ask if you're wondering how to start your own podcast, but they aren't the only questions you should be asking. That's exactly why we put together this complete guide on how to start a podcast.
After completing the tutorial, you'll have all the basic knowledge you'll need to launch your idea.
- Why start a podcast?
- What are the steps to starting a podcast?
- Your Podcast Idea
- How to Create a Podcast?
- How to Launch a Podcast?
- Beyond Your Podcast Launch
Why start a podcast?
In short, here are 5 benefits of starting a podcast:
- It gives you the opportunity to create authority and credibility in your industry or niche.
- It's available to a worldwide audience, and the barrier to listen is, well, very low.
In fact, one of the biggest benefits of listening to podcasts: you don't have to say 'no' to what you're doing right now to listen to a podcast. On a run? Folding laundry? No problem, just pop in your earbuds and press play!
- Those who listen to podcasts are IN LOVE with the medium!
According to Edison Research, Podcasts are the #1 audio source by time of consumption among podcast listeners.
- A podcast can help you grow your audience.
- And the best part: once you've grown your audience, podcasting gives you the opportunity to create an intimate relationship with them: one where they get to know, like and trust you. This is where your impact comes into play.
Imagine sharing a message or lesson you're passionate about via your podcast, and having those who are tuning in to listen experience changes in their lifestyle, their relationships – their being…
All thanks to you.
So what are the steps you need to take when creating a podcast?
What are the steps to starting a podcast?
I'm glad you asked, because throughout this guide we'll leave no stone unturned.
We'll start with the idea, then cover your launch strategy, and we'll even go beyond so you know exactly what to do to continue to grow your podcast post-launch.
If you want a step-by-step workbook that will guide you through every stage of how to start a podcast, be sure to check out our guided Journal, The Podcast Journal!
The Podcast Journal is a physical workbook with exercises laid out for you each day that will guide you from Idea to Launch in 50 Days.
Your Podcast Idea
Coming up with your podcast idea is the very first step to creating a podcast.
In this section we're going to talk about coming up with an idea, identifying your avatar, defining your niche, deciding on your podcast format and frequency, and finally, the importance of your content and direction being tied to a specific goal.
This is the foundation of your podcast and a critical first step to making sure your podcast is successful.
- How do you know what to podcast about?
- How do you know your idea will appeal to people?
- Confirm Your Niche
- Your Unique Value Distinguisher
- Podcast Format Ideas & Frequency
- How to Come Up With a Podcast Name
How do you know what to podcast about?
Figuring out your podcast topic might be a simple process for you – perhaps you already know exactly what you want to podcast about.
If that's the case, awesome!
If you don't know what you want to podcast about yet, then we have an exercise for you called the Zone of Fire.
This exercise should be practiced over several days – but don't worry, it's really not super time-intensive. All you need to do is take out a piece of paper and draw a line down the middle.
On the left side of your paper at the top write "passions", and on the right side of your paper at the top write "experiences".
Set at timer for 15 minutes, and during those 15 minutes jot down what comes to mind for you under each of these two categories.
- Your passions are things you're excited about – what do you really enjoy working on?
- Your experiences are things you have experience or expertise doing – what did you study in school, or what types of tasks and projects have you led at your current or previous jobs?
Each day – for 3-5 days straight – set your 15 minute timer and continue to brainstorm ideas in each column.
On the last day of your Zone of Fire exercise ask 5 family members or friends one simple question:
What do you think I'm best at?
Record their responses under the applicable column on your paper.
Finally, spend one last 15 minute period identifying where there is overlap: where do your passions and experience match up?
This area – where you find overlap – is your Zone of Fire, and this is a great place to start brainstorming what your podcast topic will be.
If you have several ideas, choose the one you're most excited about working on and that you can see yourself still being excited about years from now.
How do you know your idea will appeal to people?
Once you have a good idea of what you want to create a podcast about (your podcast topic), it's time to define who you'll be creating a podcast for.
This individual is known as your Avatar.
A good place to start when defining your avatar is to first ask yourself this question:
Who is the one person who could have a life-changing experience after listening to my podcast?
Once you've described the one person who could have a life-changing experience after listening to your podcast, it's time to start filling in some of the blanks, like:
- What are your avatar's demographics? (age, sex, location, etc)
- What are your avatar's biggest dreams and aspirations?
- What are your avatar's biggest struggles and pain points?
- What does your avatar love to do?
- What does your avatar hate to do?
Once you've answered these questions about your avatar start bringing everything you know about them together; write out a detailed description of the individual who embodies these characteristics and lifestyle.
- What's their name?
- Do they have a family?
- And given your podcast topic, why will they tune in?
- What will they walk away from every one of your episodes with?
Your avatar description might be fictional, or it might be based on an individual you actually know (including yourself).
To get a good feel for how your avatar might be described, I'd like to introduce you to Jimmy, John's avatar for Entrepreneurs On Fire:
Whether your avatar is fictional right now, or an individual you actually know, your next task will be to go out and find them.
You can find them:
- In online communities (like Facebook or LinkedIn groups);
- At networking events or conferences (search meetup.com or Google to find these events);
- Through an introduction from someone you currently know.
Set a timer for 30 minutes and dive deep into your research.
After searching, where can you go to meet with your avatar?
Once you've found them, your next step is to start a conversation with them to confirm they are who you think they are (based on your description of your avatar).
You should also share your podcast idea with them, and ask if it's something that would be of value to them.
Find out as much as you can about your avatar through one-on-one conversations, and take notes! You'll learn incredibly valuable information during these one-on-one conversations that will help guide you throughout creating a podcast.
Make it your goal to have at least 5 one-on-one conversations with those individuals you've found and who you believe to be your avatar. Let these conversations not only confirm you're on the right track, but also give you insights about how to structure and format your podcast.
Now that you know what you want to create a podcast about, and you know WHO your podcast is going to be for, let's chat about the importance of niching down.
Confirm Your Niche
You may have heard the phrase before: "If you're talking to everyone, you're really talking to no one."
In order to gain initial momentum and start to grow a following for your podcast, you have to be able to clearly communicate exactly why someone would want to tune in, and what they're going to get if they do.
If you're going to podcast about "online marketing", then communicating exactly why someone would want to tune in, and what they're going to get as a result, is going to be very difficult – this is a very wide and broad topic.
However, if you say you're going to podcast about "online marketing for dentists who run their own practice", then it becomes a lot easier to communicate exactly why someone would want to tune in, and what they're going to get as a result of doing so.
It will also confirm to every individual who hears about your podcast whether it's for them, making it incredibly easy for your avatar to find YOU.
…otherwise, you run the risk of not being able to attract the right listeners to your show, and therefore, you'll have a very difficult time growing your podcast audience.
Once you've launched and gained some initial momentum, you can always start to zoom out.
Your Unique Value Distinguisher
With your idea, avatar, and niche in place, it's time to start brainstorming how your podcast will be different from the others already out there like it.
If you're going to start a podcast, there's no sense in starting one that's exactly like another that already exists, right?
Spend 30 minutes doing research and try to find other podcasts that might already exist around your topic (or a similar topic).
You can do this by:
- Using Google to search for your keywords or topic (+ podcast);
- Doing a search right in iTunes using keywords; or
- Going to the category you'll be establishing your podcast under in iTunes and seeing what's currently available.
If you're still not able to find a podcast that's talking about the same or similar topic, then broaden your search to blogs and/or videos using Google and YouTube as your search tools.
Doing market research is important; you want to know what else is already out there, because if it already exists, that's GREAT news! That's proof of concept.
If it doesn't exist, that's okay – at least you know you're starting with a clean slate.
Now you need to determine how you'll do it differently.
This is your Unique Value Distinguisher (UVD), and this is critical because if you're not able to differentiate yourself it's going to be very difficult to grow an audience.
Do not skip this step.
Here's an example of a UVD for Entrepreneurs On Fire:
John did market research to figure out what other podcasts already existed that were similar to what he wanted to do (interview successful entrepreneurs).
He found podcasts like Pat Flynn's Smart Passive Income, and David Siteman Garland's Rise to The Top, so he had a pretty good idea of what was already being done.
So, he decided that in order to do it differently he would do it DAILY.
A daily podcast that interviewed successful entrepreneurs didn't already exist, and that was one way John was making sure his podcast would be unique.
Once your triangle is complete (Idea, Avatar, Niche), and you've determined what your UVD will be, it's time to decide on:
- Your format and frequency, and
- The name and branding of your show.
Podcast Format Ideas & Frequency
Your podcast format and frequency depends on your avatar.
Now that you know the in's and out's of their life and preferences, you should be able to predict what type of format they'll want, and how often they'll be able to tune in.
There are several different format and frequency options to choose from:
- Interview-based
- Topic-based
- Variety
- Seasons
In order to find the one that's right for you and your avatar, ask yourself:
- Does my avatar like lesson-based information that's bite-sized?
If yes, then a topic-based show that's 1 time per week and runs about 15 minutes will be a great start!
- Does my avatar like conversations and learning about different ways of doing things? Will they probably be listening every day while they're working out or walking their dog?
If yes, then maybe they'd enjoying listening to interviews 3 times per week that last about 30 minutes.
- Is my avatar a visual person, and do the lessons I have to share require visuals?
If so, maybe a video podcast is right for you…
- What if my avatar likes more than just one of these formats?
Awesome! Create a variety show that offers a mix of things: topic-based, interviews, Q&A, a series format…? The sky is the limit!
These are just a few options available for you to try out; remember, determining your podcast format and frequency can be a fluid thing. If you start out one way and then find that you want to pivot because of new information you've learned about your avatar, then go for it!
Do not be afraid to test different things out, but don't forget: Communication is key.
If you decide to change up the format or frequency of your show, let your audience know at the top of an upcoming episode. You might even create an entire episode around your switch if you feel it will be of value to your listeners.
This is YOUR show, and you get to call the shots!
How to Come Up With a Podcast Name
When starting a podcast, you're going to have to decide on a name for your show. There's one rule that should come before all else when naming your podcast: be clear first, and then clever (and only if it fits).
Too many times I've seen people get really clever and cute with their podcast name, and this will only confuse your potential listeners and make it harder for you to grow an audience.
You want someone to see your podcast in iTunes – or search for a topic on Google – and know immediately whether they want to tune in.
If they don't understand your name, or it doesn't clearly communicate exactly what your podcast is about, then they will not spend their own time trying to figure it out.
Once you've decided on a name – and a tagline that's short and to the point – make sure your artwork also clearly communicates your message.
Once your artwork is in the iTunes store – or featured on other media platforms – it's going to be tiny. You want to maximize the space and make sure that your artwork isn't too crowded.
Here's a visual so you know what I'm talking about:
Also, be sure to check in with iTunes most recent podcast artwork specifications (under the heading "Feed and Image Requirements").
If you're not in compliance with these podcast artwork specifications, it will cause delays with being accepting on the Apple Podcasts (iTunes) platform.
How to Create a Podcast?
Now that you know what each of the foundational aspects are to start a podcast, let's chat about the how, which is all about action and implementation.
You have your idea, now it's time to start executing.
We're about to cover everything from podcast equipment and software to actually recording, editing and uploading your podcast to a media host!
- What Equipment Do You Need to Start a Podcast?
- How to Make a Podcast Content
- Giving Your Content a Goal
- Recording and The Interview Podcast
- Editing Tips and Uploading Your Podcast
What Equipment Do You Need to Start a Podcast?
You'll find a full list of our top recommendations for podcast equipment and software here. Below we outline only our top recommendations (some of these links are affiliate links), and on our podcast equipment and software page we do have some alternatives.
If you already have podcast equipment and software you use and that you like, perfect! No need to change anything up; what's important is that your podcast setup works for you.
Our top recommendations for your podcast equipment and software are:
- MAC computer or laptop
- ATR-2100 Microphone
- Apple Earbuds
- Adobe Audition (to record solo shows and edit your episodes)
- Skype + eCamm (to connect with your guest and record interviews)
If you plan to do a video podcast, you can still use Skype + eCamm to record your interviews; just be sure your settings are set for video.
Another option for recording your podcast would be to use a software like Zoom.us – this will allow you to connect with your guest and record video (or just audio).
If you plan to do heavy video editing, then you should consider using ScreenFlow or Camtasia for your video editing software (unless you already have another program you use and love).
Once you have your podcast equipment and software set up, it's time to put a plan in place for how you'll prepare prior to recording your podcast.
How to Make a Podcast Content
Preparing your content is going to depend largely on what podcast format and frequency you've chosen. For example, preparing your content for a daily interview show will look MUCH different than if you decide to do a weekly topic-based show.
Based on what your podcast format and frequency are, here are some ideas for how to prepare your content.
- Preparing content for an interview-based podcast
- Preparing content for a topic-based podcast
- Preparing content for a series podcast
- Preparing content for a Q&A podcast
- Preparing content for a variety podcast
Preparing content for an interview-based podcast
First thing you'll want to do is decide on your episode flow.
Your episode flow might consist of the same set of questions you'll ask every guest, or it might be a different set of questions based on the individual guest you're having on.
How do you know which questions to ask?
Ask your avatar.
What questions would your avatar ask your guest if they were sitting down to have a conversation with them?
Remember, this podcast is for your audience, so when thinking about the content, questions, and flow you should always have your avatar in mind.
You'll also want to consider the timing and how long you want your episodes to be.
A shortened example of your interview podcast flow might be:
- Introduce guest: 3 minutes
- 5 Main questions: 20 minutes
- Resources & wrap up: 5 minutes
Of course, you'll want to fill in each of these sections with more detail:
- Decided how you'll introduce each question,
- List out what specific questions you want to ask, and
- Write out what your wrap up will include (rotating calls to action, a preview of the next episode, etc).
When in doubt, ask your avatar what they would want.
Finally, be sure you have some type of note-taking system down so you can easily jot down notes while doing your interview.
Your notes will include things like:
- Links mentioned;
- Recommendations or references that come up during the interview;
- Notes you want to refer back to, (like a previous answer from your guest); or
- Topics you want to revisit later in the interview.
Having a flow to follow will not only help you to prepare your guest for the interview (more on this later in this post), it will also help you stay on point.
And having a note-taking system will help you immensely after the interview when putting together your episode show notes.
Preparing content for a topic-based podcast
Preparing for a topic-based episode is very different from an interview-based episode, mainly in that you're responsible for coming up with all of the content versus sharing the mic with a guest.
However, the huge perk of a topic-based episode is that you don't have to deal with any of the guest research, scheduling, follow-up, or the reminders required when you have a guest on (we'll cover these steps in detail shortly).
When preparing for a topic-based episode start by figuring out whether you want your episodes to have a flow.
Just like in the interview-based example, you could have:
- An introduction,
- A lesson, and
- A conclusion and call to action
The benefit of creating some type of flow is that you'll never have to second-guess or wonder what's coming up next.
Once you've decided on a flow, you'll want to brainstorm topics to cover.
I keep an ongoing list of potential topics in my Workflowy so that I never run out of ideas, and I populate this list of potential topics by:
- Reading what others are writing and talking about (topics that are popular for a similar audience);
- Reading books in my industry / niche and picking out things that stick;
- Asking my current listeners and audience what they'd like to hear more of; and
- LISTENING – researching trending hashtags on social media, engaging with those who are reaching out to me, and being alert when answering questions I get via email.
These are ALL potential topics, and if you're diligent about keeping your list going, you will NEVER run out of topics to discuss on your podcast. At any given time, I have well over 20 potential ideas for content.
Once you have a running lists of topics, it's really about finding what content prep method works best for you, and then creating a checklist you can follow every time.
My podcast is called Kate's Take, and it's an audio blog. That means I create a blog post first, and then I repurpose that content for my podcast.
So, it's topic-based, systems-focused, and it gives my listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how we run a 7-figure business.
My content prep checklist looks like this:
- Choose topic
- Research keywords
- Choose a title that includes the keyword I want to focus on
- Write intro
- Write bullet points for the lesson I'll teach (what steps can they take?)
- Write conclusion
- Fill in the meat of the post (actually write it)
- Edits
- Record episode
- Schedule everything
Preparing content for a series podcast
Depending on how you produce it, a series podcast could be the simplest form of a topic-based podcast, or the most involved form of an interview-based show.
For example, some series podcasts might include 10 episodes, all created and recorded just by you, like Season 1 of Kate's Take.
Other series podcasts might include fewer (or more) episodes, all created and recorded with multiple people involved. This would require that you mix in different conversations and potentially have sound effects, which are both very time consuming in the editing process.
Memoir is an example of this, or just think Serial.
Because you know the topic or story you'll focus on when you choose to do a series (or seasons) podcast, the major benefit is that you have your entire series pre-planned. You already know what your content is going to be, it's just a matter of laying it out the way you want it.
When I do seasons on the podcast, I start with an outline of the entire season, and I fill in what each episode will be about.
I then create titles for each episode, and get into the same flow I shared for a topic-based podcast above.
Preparing content for a Q&A podcast
Q&A episodes are a great way to get your audience involved and could be great for increasing engagement.
Preparing for a Q&A podcast involves:
- Having people to source questions from;
- Knowing your topic really well so you're able to answer those questions, and
- If you don't know the answer to a question, having the time to properly research it.
A great tool to use in order to capture your listeners' questions and be able to download and add them to your episode is SpeakPipe.
Preparing content for a variety podcast
If you're doing a combination of any or all of the above, then adjust your content prep accordingly.
Having a flow and outline or checklist to follow when it comes to content preparation will save you HOURS – and even DAYS – of unnecessary work.
Preparation is also key to making sure you stay on track (and on pace) with your podcast. We always recommend being at least one month ahead with your podcast content. That means if you're doing a weekly show, then you should have 4 episodes scheduled to go live at any given time.
We'll talk about batching – a great way to help you get ahead – a little bit later in this post.
Giving Your Content a Goal
Now that you know how to go about preparing your individual episode content, it's time to focus on your goal.
Unless you have a clear goal for every single piece of content you create, you're wasting your time.
Be sure to ask yourself "WHY am I creating this content?"
Consistency is incredibly important, too, but you should never create content only for the sake of creating content, (again, this is why preparing your content ahead of time is so important).
A good way to track and measure your goal for your content is to have a Call To Action (CTA) in every one of your episodes.
For example, if you're creating an episode with the goal of enticing people to sign up for your email list, then you should have a downloadable related to that episode and include a direct call to action for people to sign up for that download.
Here are some CTA guidelines you can follow:
Every time you create a piece of content, you should have your avatar in mind. How will this help you guide them in a specific direction?
Once you know what you want their next step to be, how can you offer them something in your CTA that will make them want to take that step?
- This might be by way of a PDF download or some type of checklist you're offering in exchange for their email (if your goal is to get their email address)
Once you have your goal for the episode set, and a CTA that's going to help you accomplish that goal, rotate and test!
There is no golden rule or guaranteed way of having a CTA that will be the best and highest converting one ever. You have to test out what will work best for you and your audience, so don't be afraid to rotate 3, 4 – even 5 different CTA's in a given month to see which one works best.
Maybe one CTA is to download a cheatsheet related to the content you just presented, and then in the next episode your CTA is to reach out to you via email with a question or a specific piece of feedback related to that episode.
Once you look back and measure the results, double down on what's working and get rid of the rest!
You can always go back and re-record your CTA in an episode, too, then replace that episode in your media host (do not delete and re-upload it or you'll lose out on your download statistics for that episode).
So if you haven't been using strong calls to action that will move the needle for your business, it's not too late to go back and add them in now.
Recording and The Interview Podcast
Preparing to record your podcast is not just about content prep, but also about making sure your equipment and software are setup properly.
You should also have a checklist to follow every time you hit the record button, which we'll talk about in just a bit.
For this step, your focus should be on:
- Making sure your surroundings are conducive to recording (quiet, controlled, no echo)
- Setting up your recording template (this happens inside of your recording & editing software)
- Setting up your hotkeys (also happens inside of your recording & editing software)
- Making sure you're recording in mono (stereo will result in HUGE audio files)
- Testing until it sounds the way YOU want it to sound
Setting up your recording template, hotkeys, and sound settings will depend on the software you've chosen. We have full video tutorials for how to do all of this in Garageband, Audacity, and Adobe Audition inside our podcasting course and community, Podcasters' Paradise.
You can also find some great tutorials by going to YouTube and searching for what you're looking for specifically.
- Researching guests for your show
- Scheduling guests on your show
- Preparing your podcast guest
- Getting your guest to share your podcast
Researching guests for your show
If you're doing an interview-based podcast, then early on you should consider the type of guest you want to have on.
Build a guest profile – an outline of the key identifiers and characteristics you'll look for in a guest (and you can also include things that would be deal-breakers) – so you're clear on who you want to ask, and who you don't want to ask, to be on your show.
Once you have your profile, it's time to start doing some research.
Places you might find guests for your show:
- Speaker pages of conferences in your industry or niche
- Amazon book section (search for authors in your industry niche)
- In magazine articles in your industry or niche (i.e. Inc Magazine, Success, Time, etc)
- Through friends or colleagues
- On LinkedIn
- Through a recommendation from a previous guest
Next, it's time to set up an interview scheduler link.
Scheduling guests on your show
Scheduling guests on your show requires commitment, because it's very unlikely that you'll reach out just one time and get a 'yes' and have someone schedule their interview immediately. It takes follow up and hard work to get the right guests schedule on your show.
Recommended interview scheduling tools:
An online scheduling tool will help you save loads of time and prevent unnecessary back and forth between you and your guests. Just put your interview schedule into your scheduler and share the link with your potential guests so they can schedule a time that works for them!
Of course, in the beginning, while you're building authority and credibility, there may be times you go "off schedule" to accommodate someone you really want to have on the show.
Preparing your podcast guest
Preparing your guest is your responsibility, and that prep should start the very first time you reach out to invite them on your show. Make sure they know what you expect of them.
You can start with sharing your goal and mission with them…
If you can get a potential guest on board with your goal and mission (perhaps they have a similar goal or mission?), then chances are they will say yes to being on your show.
Once you've confirmed the interview, reminders and followup are key. Any online scheduler will provide you with the tools to automate this process so your guest receives reminders about when, where, and how the interview will take place.
Leading up to the interview you should also be sure they're prepared for the discussion; go ahead and share your interview flow with them so they know what to expect – especially if you'll be asking them specific questions.
This would also be the time to confirm with them whether it will be audio-only or video, and to share any setup specifications or details they might need to know so they're ready to go before you start your call.
When you first connect with your guest the day of the interview, take a few minutes for your pre-interview chat.
During these few minutes:
- Be sure they don't have any further questions,
- Double check that they have their microphone set and their notifications off, and
- Test your audio and recording setup to be sure it's working properly before you hit record.
Getting your guest to share your podcast
Once the interview wraps, it's time for the post-followup, which is where you'll ask your guest to share their interview once it goes live.
This starts the minute you go off air with your post-interview chat.
Again, be sure your guest doesn't have any questions about when the interview will go live, or what happens next. Let them know you'll be following up a week before the interview goes live, and also the day-of to share links and an image with them so they can share it, too.
Don't hesitate to mention right then and there in the post-interview chat that you'd be grateful if they'd share the episode with their audience, as you're excited to do so as well.
Canned Responses in Gmail and Boomerang for Gmail are both great tools to help you with these followup emails. Just setup your 1-week reminder and your day-of reminder emails in your canned responses, fill in the blanks, and set your emails to send on the schedule you want with Boomerang.
If this all seems like a lot of work, that's because it is – at least up front when you're doing it all for the first time. But don't worry: within a few weeks you'll be a pro!
Also, we have step-by-step video tutorials, resources, email templates – everything you need to create, grow, and monetize your podcast inside Podcasters' Paradise. PLUS a community of 3,400 other amazing podcasters who are on the same journey as you who are there to help provide you with support and encouragement (including myself and John!)
So if you're looking for every resource you need – plus a supportive community to help answer questions 24/7 – Paradise is the place to be!
Being on the mic and interviewing guests is going to feel uncomfortable at first…
…but recording your podcast will get easier with time!
It's important to trust the process and know that you will get better every single time you hit record.
The fastest learning technique for becoming more comfortable behind the mic and with interviewing is to do it often, and listen back to your recordings so you can make note of the things you want to improve.
Things you might want to improve:
- What filler words do you use too often?
- Could you work on getting rid of your "um's and ah's"?
- How could you pose questions in a better way to help your guest?
- How could you improve your responses or commentary to be of more value for your listeners?
These are all questions and things you should be evaluating when listening back to your recordings.
Practice, practice, practice!
Now, it's time to edit…
Editing Tips and Uploading Your Podcast
Quick editing tips
Editing is something you can definitely outsource, but I wouldn't recommend it – not at first anyway.
Here's a little secret for you: it won't be a long and drawn out process if you don't make it one.
At first, you'll want to edit out every breath, every pause, every um, and every ah.
Don't do it!
By doing so, you're going to make the final recording sound even worse because it's going to be unnatural.
Instead, continue to improve upon the things you don't like to hear in your playback rather than try to delete them. Remember: you're only human! We do have to breathe, and we do say um and ah a lot…
My best tip for editing is to pause for 2 seconds, or drop a marker using editing shortcuts (you can do this in Garageband, Audacity or Adobe Audition), whenever you or your guest makes a mistake that you want to edit out.
This way, when you look back at your waveform, you'll see the break in the audio recording and will be able to go straight to that part to edit versus having to play back your entire clip.
It will look like this:
If you do want to move forward with outsourcing your podcast editing, you can check out companies like Podcast Press or visit Fiverr to search for audio specialists who can help.
Your podcast intro and outro
During the editing process you'll also want to add your intro and outro: a short clip – typically no longer than 10-30 seconds – that introduces you, your show, and the episode, and that includes your call to action.
Whether you record your intro and outro yourself is completely up to you, but when you're first starting out it could add credibility and a certain amount of professionalism if you have someone else do it for you.
If you do outsource this, we recommend Tim Paige, who has helped us with our podcast intros and outros multiple times in the past. Him and his team are spot on!
If you decide to do it on your own, you can check out inexpensive royalty-free music on sites like Audio Jungle and Pond5 for your background music.
Exporting your episode
Once you've completed the recording and editing process you'll want to export your file as an MP3 to prepare it for upload to your podcast media host (we'll cover uploading to your media host in just a minute).
When you export, you want to be sure your settings will allow for a small file size, otherwise you could end up with 20 MG+ files, which isn't necessary and will only cost you more money in hosting.
Here are the recommended settings:
Now that we have your recording, editing, and uploading covered, let's head into your podcast launch!
How to Launch a Podcast?
Recording, editing, and uploading your podcast is a small slice of the pie.
- Your media host
- Creating a system for your podcast episode creation
- The Podcast Workflow
- Submitting your podcast to the major directories
- Podcast Masterclass
- Create a Podcast Website
- Podcast Launch Plan
Your media host
Your podcast media host is the place where your podcast episode files will be stored, and this is a requirement if you want to syndicate your show on directories like Apple Podcasts (iTunes), Stitcher Radio, Spotify, and more.
Our recommended media host is Libsyn, a company who has been in the podcasting space for many years and who is fully dedicated to podcasting. It's who we use here at Entrepreneurs On Fire, and we are also an affiliate partner with Libsyn.
If you use promo code FIRE when you sign up, you'll receive the rest of this month and next month free!
Note: when using this promo code you can only downgrade your account, not upgrade, during the promo period, so we recommend choosing the highest plan and setting a reminder to downgrade before your first paid month if you don't require that plan.
For audio only shows, Libsyn is the best.
If you're considering a video podcast, then PodBean is who we would recommend for your media host.
Creating a system for your podcast episode creation
Having a system for everything we just covered in the record, edit, and upload section is KEY.
Whether it's a checklist, a document, a print out, or any other way you want to create it, do it now so you don't miss any steps moving forward!
Below is an outline of an overall podcast workflow, but your system for recording, editing, and uploading can – and should – include way more detail depending on how YOU go about doing it.
I'm talking down to a line item for "hit the record button" (cause I can promise you this: if you don't have it written down to remind yourself, you WILL forget to do this at some point).
And then you'll feel like I did after I realized it…
The Podcast Workflow
The Podcast Workflow is 8 steps:
- Record
- Edit
- Add intro / outro
- Export as mp3 file
- Tag with ID3 editor
- Upload
- Schedule
- Publish!
Submitting your podcast to the major directories
The last step required to start your podcast – and actually launch it! – is to submit your RSS Feed (this is provided by your media host) to the major directories, which are:
- Apple Podcasts (iTunes)
- Stitcher Radio
- Google Podcasts
- Spotify
You only have to submit your RSS Feed to the directories one time, and once it's accepted by the individual directories they will continue to pull in your most recently published episodes from your media host.
Important note: before you submit your RSS Feed to the directories be sure you have at least 1 episode published, otherwise the directories will not recognize your feed. More on this in the launch section…
You know how to go about recording, editing, uploading, and publishing an episode now, but how do you make sure you're setup for a successful podcast launch?
There's one more step before we get to launch, and that's setting up your home base: your podcast website.
But before we get there, I know what you're thinking… creating a podcast is no joke.
That's the truth.
It's a lot of hard work, and it takes time. You know by now that creating a podcast comes with great responsibility.
So if you're looking to make a quick buck with podcast sponsorships, or create a podcast that will go viral, then rethink why you want to start a podcast, because that's NOT how it works.
And if you're feeling like there are way too many steps here and you'll never be able to accomplish getting to launch, then I urge you to check out The Podcast Journal.
The Podcast Journal was created to help guide you step-by-step from Idea to Launch in 50 Days.
Learn more about your podcast launch on our Podcast Masterclass
Join us for our on-demand Podcast Masterclass, where we share everything you need to know about how to become a successful podcaster without spending a lot of money or being techie!
Plus, we answer all FAQ's throughout the masterclass, so chances are if you're wondering it, we cover it.
Check out our on-demand Podcast Masterclass today!
Create a Podcast Website
There are a few general guidelines that are important to note to help you leverage your podcast website.
3 Pages every Podcast Website needs
You might already have an existing business or website that you're adding a podcast to, and if so, that's great!
Create a Podcast Page (or you could use your "blog page" as such), and you're all set.
But if you're starting from scratch and want to get something up that you can improve over time, (which is totally recommended if you're just starting out), then there are really only 3 pages that are important right now:
- Home page with opt in
Your home page should clearly state exactly what you have to offer your visitor. You should also have an email capture on your homepage to collect email addresses of those interested in learning more.
If you don't already have an email provider setup, a good place to start is MailChimp or ConvertKit.
- Podcast page
Your Podcast page will be where people can see a running feed of your episodes.
The easiest way to accomplish this on a WordPress site is to simply use the Blog tab for your Podcast page and show notes.
- Contact page so people can reach out to you
Your website is your home base: a place your listeners can go to consume not just your podcast, but also the resources and additional content you have to offer.
It's also a place they can connect with YOU.
Engaging with your audience is the key to your success with podcasting, and a contact page where they can easily reach out to you is a great place to start.
There are loads of mistakes we see podcasters make on their website every single day, which prevent people from opting in to your email list and cost you repeat visitors.
To find out what these mistakes are – and what you should be doing instead – check out this masterclass we did with Mark!
Show notes and transcripts
Take some time to consider what you want your show notes pages to look like.
It could be as simple as providing a brief summary or outline of what was discussed, along with any resources mentioned during the episodes, or it could be as in-depth as having a complete transcript of your episode.
When trying to decide, think of your avatar: what would THEY want in a show notes page?
Having a Podcast Player
Having a podcast player on your site makes it easy for your listeners to tune into your episodes straight from your website.
You can do this for free using whatever player your media host provides (for example, Libsyn has a player you can embed on your show notes pages for your individual episodes), or you can pay for a plugin and add it to your website for a more sleek look (we use Pat Flynn's Smart Podcast Player).
Simple Podcast Press also offers some great tools for your podcast website, including a player and time-stamps for your show notes.
In order to start a podcast the right way you must also put together a plan to make sure people hear what you're saying once you've launched, and that means it's time to learn how to put together a launch plan!
Podcast Launch Plan
- Creating a content bank
- Become a valuable member of online communities
- Make your podcast launch an event!
- Interview podcasts launch idea
- Topic-based podcasts launch idea
- Enlisting a launch team to help
There are several steps you can take in order to prepare and plan for your podcast launch, but don't over-think it. There isn't a perfect launch day, launch time, launch month – the best day, time, and month is now.
Here's how you'll know your podcast is ready for launch…
Creating a content bank
We recommend launching with three episodes on day one.
Not one, not five – three.
These three episodes should include:
- Your intro episode, often referred to as "episode 000", plus
- Two additional (regular content) episodes
The reason we recommend launching your podcast with three episodes is so that your new listeners, who are tuning in for the very first time and making a decision as to whether they will continue listening to your podcast, have a:
- Good idea of what your podcast is all about (that's what episode 000 is for)
- Decent sample of your content (that's what the first two episodes are for)
Plus, launching with three episodes gives you 3x the downloads you would have otherwise right off the bat, and from what we can assume, at least part of Apple Podcasts (iTunes) ranking algorithm takes into consideration your downloads over the past 24 hours.
So why not publish eight episodes to start? Then you'll have 8x the downloads!
…again, from what we can assume, when Apple Podcasts (iTunes) looks back at your downloads over the past 24 hours, it will compare it to the previous 24 hours. So if you have a spike in downloads and then drop way down in the days that follow, it could actually hurt your rankings.
Note: no one knows exactly what the Apple Podcasts (iTunes) algorithm consists of. And how they rank podcasts or determine which podcasts make it into New & Noteworthy or in the What's Hot section isn't public knowledge.
The best thing to do once you've launched your podcast is to focus on creating the best content possible for your avatar and continue to validate the content you're creating is what they want and need.
THAT is how you win at podcasting: by providing valuable, consistent, and free content to an audience you know wants and needs it.
Become a valuable member of online communities
Another thing you want to do as you approach your launch is get the word out!
Word of mouth is a powerful way to grow your podcast from the very beginning, and what better way to get people interested in what you have going on than to provide them with massive value?
Search on Facebook or LinkedIn for one targeted community or group that is filled with your avatar.
Join that group and make it a point every single day to spend 5 minutes in that group.
Don't share your website or talk about your podcast – provide value to those within that group.
Ask questions, give answers, share valuable resources, and just be present.
If you continue to do this on a consistent basis, then those within the group will naturally become interested in what it is you have going on. You will start to grow relationships and you never know who you're going to connect with in an online community.
Once your podcast launches, and you have content to share that can help answer the questions and solve the pain points you're hearing others talk about in that group, THEN you can share an episode covering a certain question or topic within a thread.
But be careful not to overstep group guidelines; last thing you want is to be kicked out of a group that could prove incredibly valuable for you moving forward.
Make your podcast launch an event!
Just like you would for a grand opening or a ribbon-cutting ceremony, your podcast launch should be an event.
It doesn't have to be a large spectacle that costs loads of money. Simply announce your launch and celebrate it; you deserve it!
Here are some ideas for making your podcast launch an event:
- Announce it by sending an email to your family and friends
Ask your family and friends for their support: request that they subscribe to your show, tune in to the first 3 episodes, and then leave you an honest rating and review.
Creating a short video tutorial on how to do all the above will be helpful for those who aren't that familiar with podcasting (plus, you can share this video with your listeners, too!)
- Host a party at your house to celebrate
Invite friends and family over and share your journey with them. This is a big deal!
- Do a Facebook Live video the day you launch
Talk about your mission and vision for the podcast and let your followers know how they can find your podcast!
These are just a few ideas of how you might make your podcast launch an event, but be creative! This is your show, your personality, and your podcast launch – celebrate it!
Interview podcasts launch idea
If you do an interview-based podcast, then a great way to get the word out about your launch is to email the guests you've interviewed to-date and share the good news about your launch!
You can provide a link to your podcast on Apple Podcasts, a link to your website, and a link to their individual episode and show notes page (if applicable). Ask if they'd be willing to share it with their audience.
Topic-based podcasts launch idea
If you do a topic-based podcast, then jump into the online communities you've been an active and valuable member of and share your excitement for your podcast launch.
Be careful not to make it promotional – you don't even have to include a link. If you've been an active and valuable member of that group, then people will take the time to search for your podcast or they'll reach out to you to ask more about it.
Your launch plan is critical to the success of your podcast, so spend some time thinking about which of these recommendations you'll use and schedule out the time to implement them.
Another great way to prep for your launch is to enlist a launch team.
Enlisting a launch team to help
You don't have to do EVERYTHING on your own… go ahead and reach out to friends, family, and online friends you've met through podcasting and ask if they'd be willing to join your launch team!
Your launch team doesn't have to be huge; make it a goal to get at least 5 people on board, and then make it easy for them to support you by:
- Creating swipe files (email and social media copy, along with images) they can use to help spread the word about your launch to their friends and audiences;
- Hosting a party at a local bar or co-working space and inviting your followers, family, friends, and launch team (and their friends) to come celebrate;
- Asking them to subscribe to your podcast, tune in to your first 3 episodes, and leave you an honest rating and review!
If you've already launched your podcast, then don't worry: there are severals creative ways you can gain momentum for your podcast post-launch, and we'll be covering many of those throughout the rest of this guide.
Don't forget: you can jump on our on-demand Podcast Masterclass any time, where we cover loads of information about creating the perfect launch plan, plus how to grow your podcast audience and the top ways to monetize.
Beyond Your Podcast Launch
Congrats! Your podcast is live!!
Now what?
Growing your podcast, marketing it, and finding ways to monetize is a never-ending process.
Here's where to start…
Creative ways to gain early momentum
This is not meant to be an all-inclusive list of the ways you can gain early momentum for your podcast, so make sure you do some brainstorming and come up with some ideas of your own!
Also, I say "early momentum", but these ideas can be implemented at any stage of your podcasting journey – whether you launched yesterday, or two years ago!
Here's a list to get your creative juices flowing…
- Create a social media blitz
This involves having valuable posts going live simultaneously and consistently on different social platforms.
This doesn't have to JUST be talking about your podcast launch; make sure you're providing value! For example, take a quote from one of your guest interviews and share it. Or pick out a key lesson from one of your topic-based episodes and share it.
- Give away your book (or other piece of content) that would be appealing to your audience
In return, ask your audience to subscribe to your show and leave a rating and review.
- Run a contest for a prize that's valuable (and niche) within your industry
You'll want to be sure you've done your due diligence around running contests first. There are lots of rules and regulations depending on the platform you're using, etc.
Once you've done your due diligence, offer up an entry to win a prize if someone leaves a rating and review for your show (this is just one example of what you might do).
- Encourage action and engagement
Set a goal and announce it on your podcast so you can get your audience and new listeners on board.
Example: "Help me crush my goal of 1,000 downloads before the end of this month so we can spread this message as far as possible! Help by telling a friend who you know would love this content to tune in to this episode, too!"
- Make the ask
Once you've launched your podcast and have been consistently sharing it on social media, you'll receive emails, tweets, and comments on your posts from listeners.
Every time someone reaches out to you with thanks or feedback, ask if they'll leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Sometimes, you just have to ask!
If you implement several of these strategies consistently to help your podcast gain momentum, then you will start to see an increase in listens, engagement, and overall growth for your podcast.
And this is one of the most important lessons I've learned on my podcasting journey: consistency is key.
We all have busy lives, so putting together a system for how you'll continue to produce and share your podcast on an ongoing basis is the next step.
Ongoing consistency through systems and scheduling
Spoiler alert: the content bank that you prepared pre-launch will go away.
So, how are you going to create a consistent publishing schedule so that once your content bank starts to get smaller, your back isn't up against the wall when it comes to publishing your next episode?
You have to put a system and a schedule in place you can stick to.
If you're launching a weekly podcast, and you're getting ready to launch with 3 episodes – plus you have 4 episodes in the bank – you need to:
- Figure out how you're going to produce those first 7 episodes, and
- Put a system and a schedule in place that will help you produce 4 episodes per month on an ongoing basis.
The best and most efficient strategy to help you with this is called batching.
Batching is taking like-tasks and doing them all at one time versus spreading them out over several days.
For example, instead of sitting down and writing out your episode outline, then setting up to record that one episode, then editing it, and then wrapping things up for the day (only to have to do this all over again next week), set up a schedule that allows you to write 4 episode outlines one day, and then record and edit those 4 episodes another day.
But don't just make it a one-time thing – actually set this schedule up on a recurring basis.
Maybe you start with producing and scheduling 2 episodes per week:
- Write 2 episode outlines on Monday from 8 – 9am;
- Recording & edit 2 episodes on Monday from [9:15] – 11am;
- Create and schedule 2 show notes and episodes on Monday from [11:15] – 12pm.
In this scheduling scenario, you've just produced half a month's worth of content in 4 hours.
If you set this schedule up one time every other week, you'll be keeping your bank supplied with one month's worth of content and won't ever have to worry about your back being up against the wall when it comes to publishing a podcast episode.
The Podcast Journal
Up to this point we've covered everything you need to know to go from idea to launch. Congrats on making it this far!
If you'd like a physical workbook that lays out the day-by-day and step-by-step sequence you can follow to accomplish all of this in just 50 days, be sure to snag your own copy of The Podcast Journal today!
Setting up podcasting systems
Now that you know how to do everything yourself, what are some aspects of your podcast that eat up a lot of your time, or that are repeatable?
Identifying these types of tasks will help you set up systems around them to help save you time and energy, which means you get work ON your podcast instead of IN it.
Let's take social media for example (we'll talk about the importance of promoting your show on social media is just a minute…)
Every time you publish an episode, you should have a system in place that helps you share your episode on your social media channels – plus a system that will help you engage with anyone who replies to those posts.
Your system for setting up social media might look like this:
- Once your episode outline is created, take 2 quotes or lessons for your social media post text
- Find images or a background and create your social image with the 2 quotes or lessons over-layed
- Resize image for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram (or for whatever platforms you'll be sharing on)
- Upload image and text to a social media scheduler like Dlvrit or Meet Edgar and set to publish
- Follow up daily on each platform to engage with any comments
As you can see, once you have even the simplest checklist written out to follow in order to make sure you don't miss a step – or miss out on sharing your episodes on social media completely – it'll be much easier to accomplish.
So what are some of those tasks for you, and how can you create some type of system around those tasks that will either help you:
- Automate parts of the process (using online tools)
- Delegate parts of the process (with the help of a virtual assistant, employee or contractor)
- Batch parts of the process (so you minimize your time spent on the task overall)
If you're ready to dive straight into delegating your most time-consuming tasks so you can focus on working ON your podcast and business instead of IN it, then here's your complete guide to making it happen.
Engaging with your audience
Once you have a production schedule in place and systems set up to help you save time, you'll have more time to focus on engaging with your audience.
This is key in the world of podcasting, because if you're not engaging with your audience, then how will you know whether:
- You're creating content that's valuable?
- Your listeners are enjoying your show?
- There are things you could be improving upon?
There are several ways to request listener engagement, like:
- Asking your listeners to reach out to you via email – share your email address on your episodes (as a call to action);
- Putting a call out on social media and asking a specific question people can easily respond to;
- Sending an email to your list and requesting specific feedback.
You also have to make it a practice to JUST LISTEN.
- What are the questions or feedback you're getting from those who email you?
- What types of questions or responses are you getting on social media?
- What are the recurring themes or concerns being talked about in the online communities you're a part of?
Make it a point to start a Google Spreadsheet to document the questions, concerns, and feedback you're hearing from your listeners and target audience (even if they aren't your listeners, what are the recurring themes or struggles they're talking about?)
Refer back to this spreadsheet for episode content ideas and to make sure your content is addressing your ideal listener's needs.
You could also offer up free one-on-one chats with those who want to connect and ask questions or just share their feedback.
A quick and easy way to do this is to set up an online scheduler with the time slots you're offering (via ScheduleOnce or Calendly), and then put a link to it on your site. Then share your offer on your episodes and explain how people can sign up.
There's nothing more powerful than having one-on-one conversations with your listeners to find out things like:
- How they heard about your podcast;
- What they love most about your podcast;
- What they would like to hear more of;
- What their biggest struggles are right now;
- What they wish you would change about your podcast.
Don't be afraid to just ask.
Promoting your Podcast
You've done SO MUCH hard work to get to this point – you've learned everything there is to know about how to start a podcast, and now it's time to promote it!
You cannot expect anyone else to do this for you…
There are multiple ways to promote your podcast, including:
- On social media
- Via PR (public relations)
- Through online contests or giveaways
- On your own website
- Paid advertising
- At in-person events and meet ups
The list goes on, and when it comes to your podcast promotion you have to get creative.
Let's start with social media
We touched on this earlier in this section, but promoting your podcast via social media is a great place to start.
Once you've chosen the one or two platforms where you know your ideal audience member is hanging out at – and that you're committed to being present on – put together a system and a schedule so you're consistently promoting your podcast episodes and other valuable content.
Meet Edgar is a great social media scheduler for this because it not only helps you set up and automate your posts, but it will recycle your content so that you're sharing even your oldest episodes on an ongoing basis without any additional work.
Dlvr.it and HootSuite are two other social media scheduling platforms that can help you schedule and promote your show on social media.
You also want to mix it up and share other peoples' content on social media, too – not just your own. What other resources or tools would be helpful for your audience?
Once you have a system and schedule in place that will help you:
- Consistently share your own content, and
- Share other peoples' content
…you have to make sure what you're posting is doing what you want it to do. Just as every episode you create should have a goal, the same is the case with your social media posts.
Why are you sharing a particular piece of content? What is it that you want the person who sees it to do?
Based on that, craft a meaningful post.
In other words, don't just say: "Check out my most recent episode: link"
Instead, say something like: "In my most recent episode I talk about how to manage overwhelm, which I know is a struggle for many of you. Want to learn the first step to ditching overwhelm and finally feeling productive every single day? Click this link to tune in to the episode: link"
The same goes for other peoples' content – why are you sharing it? What is it that you want your audience to get from it?
Whenever you're creating content – whether it's an episode, a show notes page, or a social media post – think about about the action you want your avatar to take, and then through your content take their hand and guide them to where you want them to go.
Make it valuable, and make it easy.
Using PR, paid advertising, contests and giveaways, your own website, and live events to promote your podcast are all options as well. But what's going to help YOU promote your podcast in the best way is for YOU to find out through testing these different strategies.
Being a guest on other podcasts
Once you've launched and set up systems to help you save time with the actual content creation, you'll want to start looking at ways you can grow your listenership: your overall podcast audience.
A great way to get started is to find other podcasts in your industry or niche who are speaking to a similar audience as you and ask to be a guest.
How to be a guest on other podcasts
- Research and find podcasts that are the right fit
This typically includes podcasts within your industry or niche that are talking to a similar audience as you and are ones you know you can provide value on.
- Reach out to the podcast host
Start by simply introducing yourself to the host, letting them know you found their podcast and that you have a similar podcast, and ask if they'd be interested in doing an interview swap: you be a guest on their show, and in return they'll be a guest on your show.
- Make sure it's a good fit
I'm not suggesting that you be a guest on any podcast just because you'll gain exposure. It needs to be the right fit for the podcast host, for their audience, and for you.
Creating guest content
Similar to guest podcasting, you can also follow the same steps to guest post or be a guest contributor on someone else's site.
This might be by way of a feature – where they create content and feature you as an example or resource – or it might be by way of you creating a post or guide that they'll put on their site as guest content.
If you find the right sites – meaning they're in the same industry or niche as you, and their audience members match what you're looking for – then creating guest content could result in a lot of new eyes (and ears) on your podcast.
Creating your first funnel
Now that you have multiples ideas for promoting your podcast, and you know how to go about getting listener feedback – plus a clear picture of what your audience wants and needs – your next step is to set up a funnel.
You have eyes on your podcast and people visiting your website, but what good are those visitors if you don't have anything to give them or a place for them go to next?
This is where your funnel comes into play, and it looks like this:
At this point in time you've already done most of the things on this checklist through creating a podcast.
Now it's time to hone in on the biggest struggle your avatar has shared with you and start creating a funnel around it to help guide them.
Future monetization
While I know we all need to make money, you should not start a podcast with the only goal in mind being: "to make money". It definitely does not work that way.
Podcasting is a marathon – not a sprint – and it's incredibly rare to see a podcaster who is starting from scratch be able to monetize their podcast within the first six months of launch – if that.
That said, there are multiple ways to monetize your podcast once you've grown an audience who knows, likes and trusts you.
We cover 8 ways to monetize your podcast through step-by-step video tutorials inside of Podcasters' Paradise, and we also talk about the top 5 ways we (and others in our podcasting community) are currently monetizing on our on-demand Podcast Masterclass.
But for now, your full focus should be on improving your content, engaging with your audience, and growing your reach.
Conclusion: How to start a podcast
I told you it wasn't going to be easy :)
But now you literally have every step you need to start a podcast and go from idea to launch and beyond!
Again, if you're feeling like there are way too many moving pieces, and you're already fearful that keeping them straight will be a struggle, be sure you snag your own copy of The Podcast Journal!
The Podcast Journal is your guide to go from Idea to Launch in 50 Days!
You can also check out our Podcast Masterclass, where we walk through every step of how to become a successful podcaster without spending a lot of money or being techie!
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The Pyjama Girl Case (Blu-ray)
Arrow Video
// Unrated // September 18, 2018 // Region A
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Review by
Adam Tyner
| posted September 15, 2018 |
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For those who marvel at the poetic and evocative titles so typical of gialli, something as succint and straightforward as "
The Pyjama Girl Case
" may catch some off-guard. Then again,
The Pyjama Girl Case
is no ordinary giallo. There are neither black leather gloves nor a straight razor to be found. The killer does not stalk his prey or stage the expected sorts of artfully grotesque attacks. Its body count is among the genre's lowest. Set entirely in Australia – the only giallo that can make that claim –
The Pyjama Girl Case
an all-too-real murder investigation
into what was then the present day. It's as much the story of immigrants perpetually treated as outsiders...as something
...as it is the search for a brutal murderer.
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An idyllic day on the beach is cut short by the discovery of a young woman's remains. Bludgeoned, shot, and set aflame, her corpse is far past recognition. Her killer must be brought to justice, but that's all but impossible until the victim herself can be identified beyond the yellow pajamas she wore. The Australian authorities feel they have this well in hand, availing themselves of the latest forensic technologies and investigatory techniques. When retired Inspector Timpson
(Ray Milland;
Dial M for Murder
gets wind of the murder, he follows what few breadcrumbs remain as only he knows how, no matter how the young upstarts who've taken his place sneer at such outmoded methods. The closer he gets to unveiling the killer, the closer Timpson comes to winding up a victim himself...
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Meanwhile, Dutch immigrant Glenda
's Dalila Di Lazzaro)
has already spoken to the police about her friend Evelyn, an amorous young woman who's been known to wear the same generic pair of yellow pajamas discovered at the crime scene. She once rebuffed Evelyn's nude embrace, perhaps because Glenda simply didn't have time for a fourth. She's already entangled in a slew of affairs, among them an aging, impossibly wealthy doctor
(Mel Ferrer)
, a blue-eyed slab of muscle
(Howard Ross)
, and her dour, working class husband
(Michele Placido)
. Though Glenda could scarcely conceive of such horrors, it's apparent to us as viewers that Evelyn is the titular pyjama girl. Is one of her lovers secretly the murderer? Will Glenda's infidelities soon ensure that her ravaged corpse too will be put on display in the remote hopes that someone can identify her?
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By the time of
The Pyjama Girl Case
's release in 1977, the giallo had largely run its course. The twilight of that genre freed filmmakers from the shackles of well-trodden tropes and conventions, empowering writer/director Flavio Mogherini to craft something far more unique. I'd scarcely even consider this a thriller. It's not as if some masked killer is slashing at Timpson as he traces the origins of drycleaning tags and grains of rice. Glenda doesn't spend the bulk of the film frantically escaping a psychopath's bloody machinations. Murder is integral to
The Pyjama Girl Case
but is hardly a singular obsession. The investigation, be it official or grudgingly tolerated, feels very much grounded in reality. Even as impossibly ghoulish as the public display of a naked corpse in a glass case would seem, that too is based in fact. It's equally intriguing that
The Pyjama Girl Case
doesn't reduce the other story it's telling to a binary
good and evil
. Unfaithful though Glenda is, she's not portrayed as some calculating, exploitative temptress. She seeks what comfort and glimmers of happiness she can. There are aspects of these three men that Glenda cannot resist, but there isn't one among them who can wholly fulfill her. It's unclear if true happiness could ever even be in the cards for her.
Gialli are so insistent on catching the audience off-guard that their twists often defy logic. After all, if a shock reveal doesn't make sense, than viewers certainly can't see it coming.
The Pyjama Girl Case
is more skillfully crafted than that. Yes, it still boasts its fair share of startling shocks, to the point that steering clear of spoilers prevents me from writing the more thorough analysis I wish I could. These revelations are wholly earned, though. Rather than diminish the film, they leave me eager to watch it again with full knowledge of what's to come.
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A recurring theme is the isolation of and disregard for immigrants in modern society. These
are a fixture in Timpson's investigation, often in decidedly unglamorous backdrops – far removed from the glitz and glamour that jet-setting gialli so often celebrated. That extends to Milland's character himself, who, at least in the English dub, is dismissed by his "colleagues" as a Canadian who really ought to scurry back where he came from.
(I don't recall Timpson's nationality being referenced in the Italian track – apologies if I overlooked something obvious there – but regardless, he's detached and dismissed just the same.)
This is the defining element of Glenda's story and one that very much resonates these many decades later. Glenda, her husband, and his best friend all hail from different countries of origin, and Australia will forever view them as
something else
. They have their station in life and cannot expect more. They will never be accepted. They will never be treated equally. Anything more is a delusion. Its impact is explored to haunting, devastating degrees – affecting me far more deeply than the sight of another slit throat ever could. The characters of
The Pyjama Girl Case
are complex and developed, and the film accordingly places a greater emphasis on the relationships between them and the emotions that shape their actions.
The performances and storytelling of
The Pyjama Girl Case
are exceptional, and its strengths extend further still. The film greatly benefits from both the seasoned eye of cinematographer Carlo Carlini and the extensive location photography in and around Sydney. The imagery is so often breathtaking:
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Less successful are the electronic score by Riz Ortolani – disco synths that rarely gel with the melancholy tone and atmosphere being conveyed on-screen – and the two dreadful numbers by chanteuse
Amanda Lear
. Despite its musical missteps and a pace that's perhaps too deliberate, I stand in awe of
The Pyjama Girl Case
. It's among the most unique and exceptional of the many gialli in Arrow Video's library, and those who haven't yet been introduced to this defiantly unconventional murder mystery will no doubt find it to be a rewarding discovery.
Highly Recommended.
The Pyjama Girl Case
dates back to 1977, but there are shots in this drop dead gorgeous 2K remaster that look as if they could easily have been lensed fifteen years more recently than that:
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Definition and detail are nothing short of extraordinary. Marvel at, say, the fine pattern in the top that Quint's masturbatory fantasy is wearing:
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...or, well, Mel Ferrer in general:
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The Pyjama Girl Case
is at its most dazzling when the camera has ample light with which to play. There's often an immediacy and vivaciousness to its palette that leave me awestruck. Its colors look so terrific that it can be amusing at times, such as how portions of the opening sequence on the beach have clearly been filmed at very different times of day. The occasional soft shot or hair in the gate can creep in as well. Aside from some persistent, light vertical lines on the far edges of the frame, wear is kept to a bare minimum once the film is truly underway, and even those scratches are likely to go unnoticed. Its remarkably fine veil of grain looks spectacular, not marred in the slightest by any undue filtering or artifacting. This is a presentation that teeters on the brink of perfection.
Arrow Video's Blu-ray release presents
The Pyjama Girl Case
at its original aspect ratio of 1.85:1, reminding me again that the genre wasn't all Techniscope, all the time. The film shares a dual-layer disc with a couple hours' worth of high-def extras.
As has traditionally been the case with the gialli that Arrow Video has brought to Blu-ray,
The Pyjama Girl Case
features a pair of monaural, 24-bit DTS-HD Master Audio soundtracks: one in English and the other in Italian. Essentially everything you're hearing in either case was recorded in post-production, and as the film was produced with an eye towards international distribution anyway, it really does just come down to personal preference. Given that
The Pyjama Girl Case
is set in the decidedly English-speaking country of Australia, it's understandable if that's the language towards which most viewers gravitate. For what it's worth, that was the only soundtrack available on
Blue Underground's DVD
from back in 2006.
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I'm stubbornly rooted in my habits, though, so I watched the film in its entirety in Italian, and then I went back and sampled a handful of scenes in English. Both tracks sound marvelous, and I'm generally impressed with the performances in each language. It's particularly worth noting that Ray Milland looped his own dialogue in the English dub. Strain does show in more loudly shouted lines, but the reproduction of
The Pyjama Girl Case
's dialogue generally leaves very little room for complaint. While I can't claim to be any great fan of Riz Ortolani's sequenced synths or the pair of oddball disco numbers by Amanda Lear, the music is impressively full-bodied on both tracks, with the levels more or less equal in both Italian and English. I've recorded a quick comparison below, if you're curious. The synths in this sequence start off a bit lower in English, but once they fully ramp up, the two tracks are remarkably close in volume:
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Effects and dialogue are lower on the English recording, even in scored scenes where the level of the music is effectively identical between languages. A short comparison from early on:
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...and those embedded mp3s are recordings, not audio extracted directly from the disc. They illustrate what I'm attempting to convey, but don't mistake them as sonic gospel. Anyway, that difference in levels shouldn't be considered a flaw or mistake, but it is worth pointing out just the same. As always, I'm deeply impressed by what Arrow Video has delivered here, and no matter which language you opt for, I have no doubt that you'll enjoy yourself.
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Each of these soundtracks is accompanied by its own set of subtitles. The English dub is joined by an optional set subtitled for the deaf and hard of hearing, while the Italian dialogue has been properly translated for its English subtitles. The difference between the two is considerable, so it's appreciated as ever that Arrow doesn't settle for dubtitles.
Audio Commentary
: Troy Howarth
So Deadly, So Perverse: 50 Years of Italian Giallo Films
returns again with a commentary that's equal parts breezy and bookish. He takes care to note how unconventional a giallo
The Pyjama Girl Case
is as well as the declining state of the genre at this point in the late '70s. As ever, Howarth delves into the backgrounds and filmographies of most everyone on either side of the camera, including those contributing to its English dub. Also discussed are the extensive use of yellow in its art direction
(something I'm ashamed to admit I didn't pick up on during my first viewing)
, Ray Milland's other giallo credentials, the discrepancy in character names between the English and Italian dubs, likening its portrayal of the immigrant experience to
The New York Ripper
's take on the American dream, and the lone Australian actor of note in the fray. This is an extremely entertaining listen, but be warned: significant spoilers are revealed early on, so on the off-chance that you've never watched
The Pyjama Girl Case
before but feel compelled to listen to the commentary first for some reason, reconsider.
Small World: Internationalism in the Giallo
(29 min.;
: Disc producer,
, and
giallo scholar in the most literal sense
Michael Mackenzie contributes what's far and away my favorite of
The Pyjama Girl Case
's many extras. The premise of "Small World" is that while the giallo is a distinctively Italian genre, these films are in many ways are shaped by the world beyond any one country's borders. Mackenzie discusses at length what precipitated this internationalism: reasons financial, contractual, technological, and transformatively historical. Based on setting and the nationality of its characters, he divides the giallo into five distinct types, referencing the likes of
The Girl Who Knew Too Much
A Quiet Place To Kill
The Case of the Scorpion's Tale
A Lizard in a Woman's Skin
Deep Red
What Have You Done to Solange?
The Forbidden Photos of a Lady Above Suspicion
Who Saw Her Die?
, and
Blood and Black Lace
, among others. Related topics include the giallo as travelogue, unavoidable requirements with international co-productions, how dubbing can tailor a film for a given market beyond the choice of language, and why filmmakers in the genre often shied away from Italian actresses.
Mackenzie devotes much of "Small World" to
The Pyjama Girl Case
. He notes the less conventional locales utilized when the production headed to Sydney as well as the volume of footage that distinguishes it from the usual in-and-out jet-set giallo. He also extends the discussion of internationalism to the mistreatment of immigrants and lack of regard for that which is foreign. Mackenzie discusses
The Pyjama Girl Case
as a giallo, particularly the downbeat state of what few films in the genre were still being produced in these waning years, as well as what sets it apart from more traditional fare. He makes the case that this unique, underappreciated film works better with a second viewing, and I look forward to verifying that myself soon.
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A Good Bad Guy
(32 min.;
: The lengthiest of the disc's four interviews is with actor Howard Ross. This is an exceptionally entertaining conversation, one that touches on being discovered by Mario Bava in the most cinematic way imaginable as well as the many genres and notable actors he's been lucky enough to list on his extensive filmography. The topic of conversation primarily swirls around writer/director Flavio Mogherini and
The Pyjama Girl Case
. We learn that he wasn't part of the team that headed to Sydney, that Dalila Di Lazzaro had a body double field the full frontal nudity, his guide to screen kissing, and Mogherini's concerns about the darker elements demanded by this role. It's a far-reaching discussion that spans cinematography, make-up and lighting, and even how ruinous substandard dubbing can be.
A Study in Elegance
(23 min.;
: As its title suggests, "elegance" is the watchword, with editor Adriano Tagliavia applying it at most every turn to his friend and frequent collaborator, Flavio Mogherini. Tagliavia discusses several of the films the two of them worked on together, Mogherini's attempts at weaving in boorish elements to subvert his
reputation, the rhythm of film editing, how Mogherini would express his displeasure with a take, and superstitions that persisted until the day the filmmaker passed away. Tagliavia has much to say about
The Pyjama Girl Case
in particular. First, he notes how
The Pyjama Girl Case
was unable to be edited concurrently with photography – the traditional process between Mogherini and Tagliavia. I was surprised to learn that the film's unique structure was discovered in the editing room, taking shape in the third edit and necessitating additional writing and reshoots. It's difficult to imagine how its first pass, more closely resembling a traditional giallo, would even function.
Inside the Yellow Pyjama
(15 min.;
: Assistant director Ferruccio Castronuovo didn't make the shortlist for the Sydney leg of the shoot, but he did lug around a bag full of Australian license plates for principal photography in Spain. Castronuovo delights in speaking about how wonderful everyone on the film's cast and crew was, including his friendship with a long-typecast Ray Milland and how a fresh-faced Michele Placido would practice menacing expressions in the mirror.
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The Yellow Rithm
(21 min.; partially
: The last of the disc's interviews is with since-departed composer Riz Ortolani. I'd imagine this interview was conducted with a different film or project in mind; the late Ortolani's interview footage is upscaled from standard definition, it's not a particularly focused conversation, and little is discussed about
The Pyjama Girl Case
. The joy of collaborating with a filmmaker like Flavio Mogherini with a great deal of familiarity with music himself is nearly the beginning and end of that. Ortolani speaks about a familial passion for music, his studies and performances prior to finding his way towards film, a perhaps misguided insistence on doing everything himself, acknowledging the necessity of orchestrators, and his revulsion of sampling. He also touches on a couple of the movies he scored, such as
Mondo Cane
Cannibal Holocaust
Image Gallery
: This slideshow quickly cycles through 13 production stills along with a couple pieces of video and poster art.
(4 min.;
: An Italian theatrical trailer, also nicely presented in 1080p, rounds out the disc's extras.
The reversible cover showcases vintage poster art under its Italian title,
La ragazza dal pigiama giallo
. The first run includes a booklet containing a terrific essay by cult cinema historian Alexandra Heller-Nicholas. She explains how the real-life murder upon which
The Pyjama Girl Case
is loosely based – "one of [Australia's] most grotesque cultural phenomena" – is arguably even more complicated than its giallo adaptation. Among the topics of conversation are how the movie is viewed as tasteless by historian/author Richard Evans
(whose interview from the Blue Underground DVD unfortunately couldn't find its way here)
, comparing and contrasting the film with the all-too-real incident, and how
The Pyjama Girl Case
speaks with unflinching honesty of the immigrant experience.
The Final Word
Those expecting a more conventional giallo may be disappointed by
The Pyjama Girl Case
, which eschews black leather gloves and theatrical murders in favor of thoughtful characterization, haunting imagery, and the exposing of the darker side of a supposedly enlightened, multicultural society. This well-crafted and deeply affecting film deserves to be more widely celebrated than it has been, and Arrow Video is certainly doing their part to introduce
The Pyjama Girl Case
to a wider audience, boasting a marvelous presentation and nearly four hours of extras.
Highly Recommended.
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