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Kernel Cousin KDE #42 Is Out
Kernel Cousin KDE #42 has hit the virtual shelves. Juergen Appel talks about KOffice filter improvements, a Lyrics plugin for Noatun, a new Kivio developer, a transparent Kicker (1,2,3), voice synthesization and much more.
transparent kicker
the guy who did this kicker-hack said that there won't be real transparency until X supports it (makes sense to me :).
I once heard that the mighty keith packard is working on a transparency server for X (He's also written a paper about it). Is that right? If yes, does anyone know anything about its current status?
Another question, a little weird maybe... It seems other operating systems are working towards using 3d-features for window-management, so that moving, resizing and making transparent and other things need less cpu and work smoother (windows will probably do so in their next version, I think it was called longhorn, not sure). Has anyone thought about doing that for linux/x/qt/kde? How hard would it be to do that?
By me at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
It would be really nice if there is a "kernel cousin XFree86" or something. I can't really tell what the status of XFree86's development is just by reading the mailing lists.
By Stof at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
This is a really great idea!
I really wish that someone would do this (im not qualified, ok?)
By isNaN at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
I believe Enlightenment was destined to use 3D hardware. Not sure if thats still the case though, especially since Raster seems to think desktops on Linux are a waste of time.
By Psiren at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Windows has been using the graphic card's hardware for accelerating the drawing speed for ages, at least since Windows 3.1 - at least 2D stuff like a hardware-accelerated mousecursor or moving rectangles (read: windows) around the desktop. Guess why Matrox' Mystique and Millenium cards were/are so popular.
By joe at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
hum, that story about transparency server for X is very old .See that discussion(12/29/2001): http://www.kde-look.org/news/news.php?id=22 for example, but I can find very much old. I'm afraid that's just vaporware :((
By Capit Igloo at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
That's right. Transparency server IS vaporware :( Keith Packard even wrote a paper about that 2 years ago (http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/KeithPackardAls2000/index.html), but where are the results ? Actually, XFree86 is totally obsolete. That's why Windows will win at the end, unless the major distributions switch to a less obsolete system like DirectFB.
By disillusioned l... at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
those are some strong assertions, unfortunately you were light on the supporting information. i've been to the directFB site, but they too are light on details.
for those of us who are interested, can you provide a link to a point-by-point comparison between XFree86 and DirectFB when it comes to the following issues: speed, memory, hardware support (video cards, mice, etc), operating system support, network support, legacy application support, difficulty of porting from X11 to DirectFB (assuming there is any), etc...?
can you also describe why XFree86 is "totally obsolete"? (again in technical terms as i'm not really interested in sycophantic rhetoric)
can you also back your assertion as to how the current usage of XFree86 will cause MS Windows to "win" in the end?
By Aaron J. Seigo at Sat, 2002/08/03 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
I'd also suggest the following: security; does DirectFB require all apps to run as root? Or does it require all apps to have direct access to H/W (which provides a potential plenty of local DoS possibilities?)
By Sad Eagle at Sat, 2002/08/03 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
> can you also back your assertion as to how the current usage of XFree86 will
It won't. Windows didn't lose in the first place. ;-)
By Stof at Sat, 2002/08/03 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
I'm not the original poster but I'm probably the person who should answer in the first place so if you don't mind I'll reply answering some of your and others questions about DirectFB -
By Zack Rusin at Sun, 2002/08/04 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
> 1) speed - the short answer DirectFB wins since all operations are performed
Is this an issue at all? I mean, how much time does it take for a 1 Ghz CPU to transfer a few bytes to the X server through a socket? (pixmaps are transferred using shared memory) Nobody runs KDE on a 486.
By Stof at Sun, 2002/08/04 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
1) Open a window.
By Zack Rusin at Sun, 2002/08/04 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
about as fluent as Rain Man in danger of missing Wopner. =P
and not all of us run (or will be running in the near future) KDE on 1GHz processors with half a gig of RAM. many still have and use 266MHz - 400Mhz systems.
By Aaron J. Seigo at Sun, 2002/08/04 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
This is not because X is slow, this is because of the communication between the client and the window manager (or something like that; I read it a while ago).
X is not slow.
By Stof at Fri, 2002/08/09 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Oh BTW, this was tested on my old Pentium 233 with 48 MB RAM, a half year ago, on XFree86 3.3.6.
By Stof at Fri, 2002/08/09 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Wow, very impressive, now who would've thought... Now if DirectFB or Quartz people knew what you know it would've saved them a lot of work. Go on their lists and tell them that they can use X11 since you checked it and MDI applications don't flicker in X11 while draging their child windows. And I'm sure you know what happens underneath because you wouldn't be posting this, right? First of all no one said that 'X is slow' it's something you made up to strenghten your argument. Now, I'm sure you know that the fact of MDI application not flickering during movement of their child windows is due to the fact that X interaction with those windows is limited to redrawing the contents of the parent window. In the same sense that Emacs doesn't flicker while you're writting letters, MDI application windows don't flicker when you drag windows inside of them. Menaging windows is a completely different animals, X11 queues request from WM and sends them few at a time. These queues slow down processing of data when all request are coming from the local machine. In that sense DirectFB model of rendering to FB directly beats X11 hands down. And yes X11 is slower then Quartz, DirectFB or Windows GDI (or whatever it's called), and yes it will become an issue once we'd like to do any of the effects Aqua does. It doesn't mean that we couldn't solve them (Rasterman did without even touching X11) but it sure as hell will be an issue sooner or later.
By Zack Rusin at Sat, 2002/08/10 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Lack of transparency doesn't make a windowing system fail! Transparency/translucent windows/shadows are only *eyecandy*. If you just want something productive (which is what 90% of the users want), then X is sufficient.
By Stof at Sat, 2002/08/03 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
And 640k memory is more than we ever need...
By Bosson at Fri, 2004/05/21 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Seriously, X11 needs a lot more to survive as holistic window-manager:
* Serious event compressions and priorities (at least for redraw)
This can be done using direct-fb and then implementing X11 on top, plus som extra extensions.
By Bosson at Fri, 2004/05/21 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
I like the idea of opengl (or something using hardware 3d) for desktop rendering, it seems much more future orientated than the project using the frame buffer. Projects like berlin had this right but its lack of backward compatibility and developer support is a problem. Would it be possible for a new version of X to exist that does this? Maybe call it X12, dump older the stuff from x that is not commonly used, and add the new stuff to it. Try for being compatible with something like 80% of the present apps. Personally having features like real transparency, xrender, color management, a new font setup, and better hardware acceleration would outweigh the temporary loss of compatibility. Since this is open source the apps people use the most will be updated fairly quickly. The way I see it, as long as it is clear what the new standard will be people will follow it. The transition from kde1 to kde2 was not easy, many programs got left behind, but in the end we are better off for it.
By lupinar at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
I cannot understand the backward compatibility complains whenever a new windowing system i discussed.
By Lenny at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Then what about games? Using OpenGL for rendering your desktop eats away precious video memory.
By Stof at Sat, 2002/08/03 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
I can only think of one graphics server that does use OpenGL: Quartz Extreme. Unless while playing games you constantly move windows, iconify them, maximize them, close them etc., you shouldn't have a problem.
By Rajan Rishyakaran at Mon, 2002/08/05 - 5:00am
The reason why Fresco doesn't make it easy for X11 apps to run on Fresco is that Fresco wants to get rid of one of the most major problems with X Window System - lack of consistency between application. "What do you mean by lack of consistency?" Open GIMP, open Kontour, compare the look. And the UI itself.
Besides, we are fighting for the desktop, if we were really interested in X11 apps, why not just clone Windows in the first place. You get more apps that way.
Most Fresco guys agree with should just go down the Mac OS X route, using XDarwin to load X11 apps. Maybe we would make something that works like Classic to run X11 apps.
There probably be someone to write an implementation of Qt on Fresco as soon as some developers work on Moscow and get sufficient amount of classes and widgets. KDE Libs would be harder, since Fresco pushes CORBA, plus it relies on many X11 stuff.
By Rajan Rishyakaran at Mon, 2002/08/05 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Probably I'm rather looking at DirectFB because they seem to make more progress unfortunatly. See this screenshot for drooling:
They already have a XDirectFB server which allows for such things as transparency. Their multi application core will allow you to run native DirectFB apps (which could already be basically every Gtk app as Gdk has DirectFB as an optional target) besides a XDirectFB server to load "legacy" X applications.
The biggest problem with DirectFB though is of course hardware support. Matrox works pretty well but I couldn't RIVA driver to work with my Geforce 4 yet so I have to use VESA and that's pretty slow and I have to use a low resolution.
By Spark at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
To me directfb + xdirectfb is what we should have been using 5 years ago. Today we should be switching from the old directfb to one that uses the 3d hardware for acceleration. With macosx using opengl for the gui now, and windows longhorn to do it as well 2d acceleration's days are numbered. DirectFBGL looks like a step in the right direction, but once it is working well they should start moving the basic drawing functions (Rectangle filling/drawing, Triangle filling/drawing, Line drawing, ...) to use it as well.
By theorz at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
One step after another. :) Longhorn won't come out before 2005 (and as we all know software release dates, probably later). It's not that we are close to seeing the end of 2D acceleration. Currently there wouldn't be much gain, even with fast cards. Sure there would be a gain with a fast Geforce 4 but it wouldn't allow for completely new fast interfaces and for current interfaces 2D acceleration is already pretty fast (like the Windows 2000 GUI, IMO it's very fast).
By Spark at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
well... as I understand it, 2D acceleration is not very advanced and for making cool transparency effects the 3D hardware would be more suitable. Check Evas for openGL accelerated 2D graphics. btw. can you say antialias!!!! :)
Of course if someone will not blow the idea, by adding too much vector objects and useless stuff like lights, bumpmapping. But maybe by the time it will be done, we all will be running atleast GeForce5 and simple stuff like that would not ruin our fps :)
"Hey i just overclocked my GeForce, my windowmanager is running more smoothly now - i can kill my windows faster than ever"
By montz at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
QT embedded isn't running with directFB?
By tofu at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
AFAIK no, it's running directly on the Linux FB but not using DirectFB. I think it could be ported though. I remember a message to the DirectFB list from someone with a @trolltech.com email but who knows. :)
By Spark at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
This is an interesting paper to read:
By Janne at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: transparent kicker
Thanks, very interesting.
By Zack Rusin at Sun, 2002/08/04 - 5:00am
filter for latex
A filter for latex would be great for me. Lyx is great for writing docs, but kword would give me better control for finetuning the final. looks like it is planned. Looking forward to it.
By Rithvik at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Kivio improvements
I don't know if this is being planned, but what would be really nice in kivio is the ability to rotate and scale stencils. Well, you can kinda scale now, but I was thinking of a more formal approach than just grabbing a stencil handle and dragging. One where the user can specify exact sizes.
Another feature that would be nice in the long run would be the ability to embed flow charts. For example, save an entire flow chart as an individual stencil so it could be used in other flow charts. Then have the ability to click on that stencil and have the underlying flow chart pop up. This would make logic and data flow diagrams really easy to do.
Lastly, I thought the undo-redo stuff for kivio was done in the HEAD CVS.
By Biz at Thu, 2002/08/01 - 5:00am
Re: Kivio improvements
>Another feature that would be nice in the long run would be the ability to embed flow charts. For example, save an entire flow chart as an individual
I have alvays thougt this to be a great idea, but why stop there. Make it possible to embed anything, like cliking on a stencile you get some design description in a KWord dokument, another pops upp a class definition .h file in a kate part etc. Make it so you can embed both external files be it kivio files or whatever or truly embed them in the kvio dokument zip file. This I think will make Kivio a extremly good design/dukumentation tool, and outshine the other charting programs.
And besides most of the embeding stuff already exist in KOffice:)
By Morty at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
KOffice XML formats
I think more people would use KOffice if it used the same XML formats that OpenOffice.org uses internally (not just an import/export filter). I'd MUCH rather use KOffice (as I think it is more enjoyable to use than OOo) to store my files, but having compatibility with other platforms is a must in most environments. I know there were some big debates on this, but I doubt it is something that will go away any time soon. I'd rather see energy focused on 100% OpenOffice.org/StarOffice compatibility than 70% Word/40% WordPerfect, etc. I cannot offer C++ skills to do this, but with enough interest from others, I would be willing to donate some $$$. I think this a worthy cause. Any thoughts?
By Eron Lloyd at Fri, 2002/08/02 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
the german gov is funding research into a common XML-based word processor file format. if they are successful (the process is still ongoing) we can most likely expect to see it implemented in the major open source word processors, possibly with some of that work also being sponsered. this is some ways off yet, but if things work out it should be an even better solution than picking one format as a defacto "standard" based on popularity of the software alone.
By Aaron J. Seigo at Sat, 2002/08/03 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
Hmm...I'm a bit skeptical that the German govt. could come up with a better solution than hundreds of hackers, most with extensive background in office application development, in developing an XML format for documents. Besides, if what you said was true, it would only just cover word processing files, whereas OpenOffice.org has a impressively comprehensive XML solution for word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, and illustrations. All things that could map to the KOffice equivalent. And if such a solution from a third party came about, great. But as of now, the spec is there, it's proven in the field, so could be used right away (we all know how long govt. research can take).
Thanks for the info, tho'...
P.S.: is the KOffice XML formats documented anywhere? I'd like to compare the two.
By Eron Lloyd at Sun, 2002/08/04 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
The German governement isn't actually designing a file format.
Yes the KOffice XML format is documented. See e.g. http://www.koffice.org/DTD/kword-1.2.dtd
I do agree though that the openoffice XML looks very nice, and I'm among the ones who support the idea of moving to that file format in the future, as the native one. But that's a big change, and lots of work... Volunteers?
By David Faure at Wed, 2002/08/07 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
;-) Do not worry, Eron, it is not Gerhard Schroeder and Joschka Fischer who are working on this standard format. They hired professionals to do the job, because they are rather busy doing other stuff. I believe a professional computer engineer is at least as able as a hacker for defining standards. In fact, defining standards is a job that is more suitable to an engineer than to a hacker, I think. But some people are both, why not?...
By Guido at Thu, 2003/01/23 - 6:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
Wow, this is quite an old thread! :-)
I'm not concerned about *who* is working on it, just the fact that a high-quality specification already exists, in the form of the OpenOffice XML formats, so Germany doesn't have to re-invent the wheel. They could just move the entire German govt. to this format and help to fund its further development. Also, OASIS several months ago initiated a coalition to do just this, with Sun Microsystems and Corel already on board. Check it out here: http://www.oasis-open.org/news/oasis_news_11_20_02.shtml
By Eron Lloyd at Thu, 2003/01/23 - 6:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
It is an old thread, indeed. I found it while I was looking for information about compatibility between OOo and KOffice.
Best regards,
By Guido at Fri, 2003/01/24 - 6:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
I didn't even find it and I found it old. Thank you google.
By Lance at Thu, 2004/07/29 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
Instead of answering to the old thread, perhaps I should have answered only to your post. :-)
Were you searching something specific? If the answer is not somewhere on http://www.koffice.org , perhaps I could still help you nevertheless.
Have a nice day!
By Nicolas Goutte at Fri, 2004/07/30 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
If I remember well, one of the wishes of the German Goverment was a storability of 60 years. That is not something that you can get out of a hat like a rabbit. (You do not only need to store but also to think how you are going to read in 60 years. 60 years ago digital computers were in infancy.)
Have a nice day!
By Nicolas Goutte at Thu, 2004/07/29 - 5:00am
Re: KOffice XML formats
There is the OASIS open office specification and that is what we, in KOffice, are heading too.
Have a nice day!
By Nicolas Goutte at Thu, 2004/07/29 - 5:00am


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Plasma Themes Contest
The KDE Plasma team is inviting everyone to participate in a contest to create Plasma themes from which a select few will be chosen to be included as a part of the upcoming KDE 4.1 release. This is a great opportunity to contribute to a very visible component of the KDE project, the Plasma desktop.
A great feature of Plasma is the ability to theme components of the desktop using Scalable Vector Graphics (SVGs). This means there is no need for you to know C++ or any other programming language to create a great looking theme.
You only need to know how to use one of many graphics tools (e.g. Krita, Inkscape, The GIMP, Karbon, etc.) and that is all. Depending on your prowess with such tools, you can create great looking plasma themes in as little as an hour.
You can find a quick guide to creating Plasma themes in the Creating a Plasma Theme in 7 Easy Steps Techbase article.
Have fun! The Plasma Team.
this theme contest is a great idea.
By SEO at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: theme
This is not a window style theme contest, but Plasma theme contest (desktop widgets, panel...)
By Ivan Čukić at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: theme
yes, but there is also a panel and a notifier in this mock-up. that is what i was talking about.
By SEO at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: theme
Right, I just wanted to clarify the potential misunderstanding of the announcement :)
By Ivan Čukić at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: theme
I would love a desktop with that look, amazing mockup.
By Iuri Fiedoruk at Sun, 2008/03/23 - 5:00am
By Emil Sedgh at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Colors
"Match with color themes" as an option seems better to me (don't know if and how this is possible). I like to have a dark panel/widget theme which fit well with a dark background and to have more bright windows color scheme
This contest is a great idea btw :)
By DanaKil at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Colors
One advantage to the way plasma's doing it now, is that the colour scheme is hinted. This lets the artist control how the colour is applied. Amarok 2 already takes advantage of that kind of theming, where different areas are tonally different, but still match the overal colourscheme.
By Soap at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Colors
I remember someone posting a patch for peer review on panel-devel which allegedly solved this problem i.e. Plasma elements adopted system colors. The person even provided some screenshots showing the desktop with different system colours and it looked all very nice to me.
The odd thing was that the review request was practically ignored, nobody ever answered. I still wonder what actually happened there. Did the Plasma maintainers not understand the patch or were they waiting for some reference opinion from Mr. Seigo who missed/forgot the patch?
By Erunno at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Colors
Oh no, it wasn't ignored. It got reviewed and accepted. It's all in there. The Aya plasma theme is the first result of that effort.
By Andrew Lake (ja... at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Colors
Ah, thanks for the hint and the link to the Aya theme in the other comment. Looking again at the screenshots with Plasma widgets using native colour scheme the desktop looks far more coherent to me than the concoction of light and black colours that make up the current desktop in 4.0.
By Erunno at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
So how many of the winners are going to be the judges this time round?
By fffadas at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
depends on wheter your submission is better than their I guess ...
By wrt at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
Not that I understand the question, but the judges will be Jamboarder, Ruphy, Pinheiro and myself.
If you're asking how many judges will be winners (and not 'how many of the winners are going to be the judges'), it depends on the participating themes.
If a judge is going to participate, he will not grade it's own theme.
As far as I'm concerned, since my theme (slim-glow) was included in extragear since 4.0.1, I will not be participating.
By Ivan Čukić at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
Not very related to this theme contest but, after the end of the wallpaper contest for KDE4, it was said that there will be a big pack available with all the wallpapers. Have I missed something ?
By DanaKil at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
Well, you should ask the wallpaper contest organizers about that :)
As for the themes, since the submission has to be on kde-look.org, all will be publicly available.
By Ivan Čukić at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
The reson such a package was not relese is quite simple, and my responsability....
By nuno pinheiro at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
I don't care. If, as for the wallpaper contest they are the best, it would have been a waste not to have the judge participate!
By hmmm at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: Judging...
So why do they announce a contest if it is as you imply ? Keep the good work everyone.
By nikos at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
DIGG IT, Slashdot it, spread it, get new artists!
By Koko at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: DIGG IT, Slashdot it, spread it, get new artis
I'm sure the folks at deviantart.com will be the ones you want to challenge the most, not DIGG.
By Marc Driftmeyer at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: DIGG IT, Slashdot it, spread it, get new artis
I don't have an account on deviantart, if you have then please submit news about this competition there :) Thx in advance.
By Koko at Sun, 2008/03/23 - 5:00am
"Classic" theme
I wonder if there could be somebody who could take the "Uniqueness. The unique always stand out in the crowd; so should your theme." guideline and create a unique theme that would stand out by not standing out at all. Meaning Plasma and KRunner would nicely fit with the rest of the apps, just like Kicker and Minicli in KDE3 do. I'm willing to pay in KWin bugfixes ;) . Seriously.
By Luboš Lu&#... at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
Not sure if it is what you had in mind but I'm working on few updates to the Aya theme which blends in a way that you might be suggesting (the current one's at http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aya+Plasma+Theme?content=76197). If Aya doesn't quite do it for you, let me know what visual specifics your looking for and I'll fork Aya into a new theme.
As an aside, these themes are really pretty easy to do, so I genuinely hope others will dive in. If anyone needs any helps, feel free to drop me a note.
By Andrew Lake (ja... at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
I'm not sure I'm madly in love with that look, but I must say I commend the effort to have a Plasma theme match the rest of the desktop.
That should have been part of the initial design from day 1.
By T. J. Brumfield at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
I agree. This theme, still, just uses SVG to make plasma elements look like applications, to some extent. But it cannot be perfect as Plasma devs decided to use SVG everywhere instead of common Qt widgets as applications do. (For example, the logout dialog in KDE 3 uses the same buttons as applications while in KDE 4 it uses different SVG buttons.) I think they favored eye-candy too much over consistency.
By Grósz Dániel at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
I'm thinking it is possible to use QtWidgets in plasma. See krunner buttons, lists and combobox for an example. Granted to logout buttons example you gave makes your point regarding consistency. Remember that many of the same primitives that are available with the QPainter facility are the same kind of primitives that are available in an SVG (wouldn't surprise me if the QT SVG renderer uses at least some one to one mapping of these primitives). Personally, I think SVGs were a great choice, since it opens up the look and to the many of us with arguably better artistic skills than coding skills while still affording us the ability to create a "well-blended" theme.
There argueably isn't a Plasma theme *yet*, that blends really well with the oxygen style to everyone's taste. But, IMHO, it's all just artwork now. No bloody coding. No bloody compiling. Just grab Inkscape and start fiddling. With a bit of diligence I bet we could make one that's turns out pretty decent. Anyone up for the challenge?
By Andrew Lake at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
Oxygen is not the only style out there... and hopefully there will be new widget styles and window decorations, with time.
By Luciano at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
"SVGs were a great choice"
SVG is great. The only problem is that in some places they used custom SVGs even where normal Qt widgets could have been used.
"it's all just artwork now"
As Luciano wrote, Oxygen is not the only theme, and some themes also have several settings (e. g. Domino in KDE 3 or QtCurve can look many different ways depending on settings). If we want a Plasma theme consistent with the other parts of the system, we need one that blends well integrates with whatever widget style the user selects. As widget styles are programmed (AFAIK), this is not possible if Plasma themes are just artwork (no code). So we need different Plasma themes corresponding to every widget style but that would be very much pointless redundant work and it is not likely to happen.
By Grósz Dániel at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
Fair points.
As a theme author I'll do my best to come up with themes that, while they admittedly may not adequately address the points above, will hopefully work reasonably well different styles.
By Andrew Lake (ja... at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
The Aya theme is supposed to be "color sensitive". Also, the CSS3 "appearance" option should allow for perfect intergration (how good is Plasma's CSS?).
By Riddle at Wed, 2008/03/26 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
Perhaps the solution is that those who make themes make them in pairs of desktop and window themes? That way, they'd look the same but you can also mix and match.
Re: "Classic" theme
Another thing which I think is unneccessary inconsistency is the Run command dialog . It's OK that it uses Plasma widgets (which can be Qt widgets with widgets on canvas in 4.1) but why isn't it a normal window managed by the window manager?
By Grósz Dániel at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
About consistency and plasmoids....
PS I wont make enteries to the Contest.
By nuno pinheiro at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
Isn't it a design flaw of Plasma if even the default plasmoids, that everyone need, look in a different way from applications? You wrote that Plasma is about freedom, everybody creates their own look - this is exactly what I think is inconsistency. Different parts of the system shouldn't create their own different look, they should use the same look as the whole system.
By Grósz Dániel at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
I disagree. I don't think its a design flaw. In my opinion the panel doesn't belong to the applications. There are applications running on top and the panel in the background, and its ok for me if they look different, because they _are_ different, at least semantically.
By blubb__ at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
To clarify, what I have said are my opinions only.
By nuno pinheiro at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
I like the contrast between windows and Plasmoids. The way it's done allows you to choose whether to have it consistent or different, through mixing and matching. It doesn't have to consistent or inconsistent, because it's up to you to choose.
Re: "Classic" theme
That looks pretty close. I like that KRunner is a rectangle with it, so as soon as I fix KWin to be able to force decorations on any window KRunner will be again a normal dialog, despite how special Plasma developers may think it is. But the colors still don't look right, the gray is somewhat darker than the rest. I read in the kde-look description that the SVG should be colored from the system colors, so is this a bug? There's also the even darker stripe at the top of KRunner, but I guess that's intentional, without the possibility of KRunner having a decoration.
Simply put, I'd want a theme that would not be a theme at all, i.e. a look like of every other windows/widgets. It may look absurd to actually have to ask that something looks normally, but it almost seems like the goal of KDE4 is to impress people with how shiny it is. There are some people who have been using KDE already for some time and care more about using it than just watching it.
By Luboš Luňák at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: "Classic" theme
It's not a bug. The lazy theme author used the same gradient for the panel-background (which was intentionally slightly darker) for the dialogs. I intend to lighten up the dialog SVGs a bit (the SVG's can 'control' how much colorization is applied).
The darker stripe at the top of the krunner dialog was intentional (even if admittedly if it's not quite right... yet). Once it takes on the system colors, it starts to look like a window sans window decoration. So it seemed like it needed something to 'anchor' it.
I realized a lot of people want a theme that blends well with, or is just the currently selected colors/style. This was part of my original motivation for getting involved. I'll keep working on Aya, or maybe a fork of it, that comes as close as possible to satisfying this part of my motivation.
By Andrew Lake (ja... at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
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lubos, at first i agreed with you about the run dialog but after using it for a while i don't realy see the issue anymore... How about you?
By Jos Poortvliet at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
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By Riddle at Thu, 2008/03/27 - 5:00am
please pimp plasma!
at the moment plasma is soo ugly, the panel has a huge clock by default, has a lot of different icon sizes; the krunner dialog and the options to manipulate plasma stuff on desktop has also a bad layout and usability..
Hey folks, please help KDE and improve all this things!
Thanks a lot :)
By Tom at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: please pimp plasma!
Dude, you want pimp?! Check this out:
Don't forget to contribute your own pimpin' plasma theme (seriously dude, it's really not hard).
By Andrew Lake (ja... at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: please pimp plasma!
Pinheiro also had a pink mockup, long time ago.
By Leiteiro at Fri, 2008/03/21 - 5:00am
Re: please pimp plasma!
My mother might switch to Linux just for that theme!
By T. J. Brumfield at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Let People Vote
I strongly disagree with those who are judging this being allowed to enter in it and feel that instead of people judging, that all entries should be placed on line for KDE users to vote on, thus leaving it a community decision on who wins.
This makes the competition fair, and also allows people to vote for what they feel is the best, instead of being lumped too often with themes that leave many of us running to KDE-look to download a decent theme
By R. J. at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: Let People Vote
Yes, online voting is so fair! No vote stuffing, no calling for votes on forums, only pure artistic impartiality.
But you know what, it matters not, because it will be on kde-look.org, and thus rated by popularity anyway. And downloadable through GHNS.
And the judges being amongst the best artists of the community, it would be really unfortunate if they could not compete.
By hmmm at Sat, 2008/03/22 - 5:00am
Re: Let People Vote
* people can vote, kde-look has a nice rating mechanism. The rating will be considered while choosing the winners.(1)
* having the judges not to compete would disqualify two very popular themes (see the rating) of Jamboarder (Aya and Heron)
* if we wanted to push our themes into 4.1, we wouldn't make this contest at all
* not everybody will be satisfied by the chosen winners, not everybody CAN be satisfied by the chosen winners. For the restless, there is always kde-look
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Glad to hear your nursing experience went well. I'm expecting and had been trying to envision how I wanted to nurse. I'd love to do both options-breast and bottle (if the baby will allow for this). I wanted to ask what bottles you used (wondering if this made a difference for your indiscriminant little one). Also, any nursing books you would recommend? One more question (sorry, i'm full of ?'s)..how often did you feed? I've been reading that babies will feed every two hours. Thanks:-)
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