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It's time once again for the unveiling of the 12 Worst Financial Advisors in America. Last year's rogues gallery was bad enough that we thought it would be good to keep tabs on these financial wrongdoers.
Thanks to the work of lawyer James A. Dunlap Jr., the principal at James A. Dunlap Jr. & Associates in Georgia, we were able to find more of the bad eggs, who frequently operate under the radar, that make it more difficult for the vast majority of hardworking financial advisors to earn a living.
This year, scams involving death were popular. One involved a company that claimed it was raising money to bid on cemeteries and the other involved theft from a trust of someone who had moved on to the great beyond.
Besides the oddballs, like the advisor who used astrology to choose stocks (it isn't a good idea, it turns out), there was your typical hedge fund miscreant — that crime always seems to top the money list.
But where's the originality? Check out the 12 Worst Financial Advisors in America:
12. Casey Charles (Milwaukee) (Honorary Mention—fake advisor)
Fraud: $900,000 tax scam, including from a widow
Charles wasn't really an investment advisor, he was just pretending and that's why he merits just an honorary spot on our list. If he had only bothered to get his certification he might have zoomed to the top because one of his victims was a woman who was widowed shortly after she forked over a cool $100,000, as reported by fox6now.com.
Charles's scam was pretty basic. He sent postcards promising to make investments that would keep taxes down for retirees. According to the U.S. Postal inspector, no investments were made. In all, 22 people fell prey to the solicitation. Charles pleaded guilty last month to mail fraud and was ordered to make restitution. He was sentenced to three and a half years in prison.
11. David Laurence Marion (Minneapolis)
Fraud: $2.7 million coin investment scam
Through the wonders of telemarketing, Marion managed to stack up a lot of coins: $24 million worth in annual revenue in 2009 alone, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported. After that, the company's revenues dropped like a sack of change even as gold and silver prices were out of sight. Laurence was indicted last November for fraud involving $2.7 million.
The indictment said Laurence used the money he took from clients and investors to bankroll his gambling habit. The meter is still running on his case.
10. Robert G. Bard (Warfordsburg, Pa.)
Fraud: $3 million investment fraud
A stockbroker, Bard was found guilty last month on 21 counts of fraud, involving bank, securities and wire, after a weeklong jury trial in Harrisburg, according to an article on Herald-Mail.com. Bard's crimes seemed to be garden variety. He used his investment firm, Vision Specialist Group, to defraud 43 investors. The indictment had alleged Bard had lost millions in risky investments and then lied to investors.
Bard could receive 75 years in prison. No sentencing date on the 21 counts was set. Lawsuits and investigations turned up only about one-fifth of the ill-gotten gains from the sale of properties in New York City, Long Island and Florida, and season tickets to the New York Jets. Like the Jets, at this point there's just not much left in the tank.
9. Lyman Bruhn & Yusaf Jawed (Oregon)
Fraud: $32 million Ponzi scheme, too unoriginal so they were downgraded
This entry is a twofer: partners in crime who led Grifphon Asset Management and Sasquatch Capital for decades. It was a sweet ride for Bruhn and his partner Yusaf Jawed as they raked in tens of millions of dollars from more than 100 investors and never bothered to invest it, according to the SEC.
The scheme came crashing down late last year with SEC charges and word of a criminal indictment. Jawed pleaded guilty to 17 counts of mail and wire fraud, the SEC said, and is awaiting sentencing in Oregon. The SEC accepted a settlement from Bruhn, the lesser light of the two, that barred him from working as a financial advisor.
The scheme included phony documents to show the firm was successful. They trumpeted lavish dinner and travel charges, fees paid to those who found investors and even the creation of a phony sexual harassment suit and settlement.
Evidently, investors took the last item as a sign the company was on the up and up.
8. Gary H. Lane (Reno, Nev.)
Fraud: $2 million stock scheme of elderly through e*Trade
The former Reno financial advisor pleaded guilty last week to taking $2 million from six investors, preying in particular on the elderly by persuading them to let him make investments through an e*Trade account that was outside his business. Lane's wife sent the money to the account. Lane then withdrew it as he wanted to pay for personal expenses or to satisfy other investors. Lane was employed by Bank of America Investment Services in 2010 and 2011. The guilty plea was reported by mynews4.com.
Lane could get 20 years of prison time for each of 12 counts of mail fraud. Sentencing is scheduled for Dec. 16.
7. Robert Rome (Chicago)
Fraud: Embezzling $4.3 million from trust funds
Rome, managing partner of Rome Associates accounting firm, must have figured that dead men tell no tales. Rome, who was sentenced in August to more than five years in federal prison, for stealing money from trust funds, including the account of someone who had died. He used the money for vacations, cars, boats and jewelry for his family.
Besides the prison term, Rome was ordered to pay $1.7 million in federal taxes that had been skipped. The owners of the trusts got off pretty lucky: they were able to recover the embezzled money from third parties.
6. James Nicholson (Saddle River, N.J.)
Fraud: $100 million hedge fund swindle
(Nicholson is our winner if you going strictly by the amount stolen, but, really, where was the creativity?)
Nicholson, who ran Westgate Capital Fund, is serving 40 years in prison. Like Bernie Madoff's victim's, many of Nicholson's saw their retirement funds vanish. Lawsuits seeking restitution are still open, but there is little hope more of the stolen money will be found.
5. Richard A. Zakarian (Vermilion, Ohio)
Fraud: $4.4 million, including churches
If there is a special place in the afterlife for those who rip off those who try to help others, Zakarian, a tax consultant, has earned a spot by stealing money from business, charities and even churches. His victims numbered at least 10, according to newnet5.com, which quoted a statement from Steven Dettelbach, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio: "This defendant preyed on non-profits, churches and small businesses that struggled to make ends meet while making their communities better. He never meant to help them, only to defraud them. This was a systemic, deliberate pattern of behavior that took place over the years."
Zakarian was sentenced to 17½ years in prison in August after pleading guilty to two counts of wire fraud and one count of making and subscribing false income tax returns.
4. Angelo Alleca (Atlanta)
Fraud: $17 million Ponzi scheme involving a phony cemetery company
There's a certain ick factor in scams involving cemeteries even if no bodies were involved. Alleca created Summit Investment, a fund of funds to attract wealthy investors. The plan worked well for a half a decade, although the underlying scam seems to have been made for Dracula. Alleca collected the cash with the stated intent to put it into other private investment funds to cut the risk for investors. He did it by funneling money to the company of an associate. Detroit Memorial was in the business (or so they said) of bidding on cemetery properties.
Where the money really went is unclear, but the losses piled up, hidden by phony accounting statements. More notes were sold. Then Alleca and his partners created two more funds to get loot to pay back investors from Summit. The long arm of the law caught up with Alleca late last year.
3. Janet Fooshee, aka Janet Gurley-Katz (Morris County, N.J.)
Fraud: $150,000 stolen from retirement center & clients
Fooshee, or whatever her name is, spent a long time stealing a small amount of money. For that, we'll put her at No. 3. She used her advisory firm (which had its registration revoked in 2006) to bilk clients, including a retirement center where she was a volunteer bookkeeper. NJ.com reported that a grand jury indicted her last month on charges involving and creating false account statements to inflate by $1.2 million the amount in the accounts. The crimes occurred over a period of nine years.
Fooshee, who now lives in Maine, faces up to 10 years in prison and $150,000 in fines. He husband was also charged as an accomplice.
2. Gurudeo "Buddy" Persaud (Orlando, Fla.)
Fraud: $1 million astrology-based stock fraud
Persaud probably should have seen his downfall written in the stars. The former securities broker pleaded guilty last month to defrauding investors by using astrology to play the stock market.
Maybe investors should have been suspicious right from the start. Persaud named his brokerage the White Elephant Trading Co. Persaud was sent to prison for three years and ordered to pay back the money to investors, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
1. Joseph Gennaco (Winthrop, Mass.)
Fraud: $7 million insurance scam, friends
Gennaco earns our top spot for having the temerity to steal from friends and family. Operating under a slew of names, Gennaco persuaded 40 investors, many of them friends and family, to hand over millions from 2001 to 2011 that he promised to invest in "life settlements" and other investments based in insurance. Instead, he used the money to pay for his living expenses in Winthrop and Jupiter, Fla.
Gennaco, according to Boston.com is remorseful. At least his lawyer says so. He probably is feeling bad now that he has been sentenced to more than eight years in prison after pleading guilty to 27 counts of mail and wire fraud in August. He was also ordered to pay restitution, although he is reportedly penniless.
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Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies
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Feminists have often called Women's Studies "the academic arm of the women's movement". With over 600 Women's Studies programs in existence throughout the United States, academic feminism is now a strong presence on college campuses - and beyond. But, as Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge charge in this hard-hitting book, the attempt to make Women's Studies serve a political agenda has led to deeply problematic results: dubious scholarship, pedagogical practices that resemble indoctrination more than education, and the alienation of countless potential supporters. The authors interviewed dozens of women - professors, students, and staffers - who, like themselves, have invested much time and effort in Women's Studies. These women speak eloquently of their frustration and even despair over the problems and conflicts they experienced in programs where a feminist agenda has been relentlessly pursued. Faced with intolerance and "ideological policing" on the part of both activist colleagues and true-believer students, some of these women withdrew altogether; others, while maintaining their formal association with Women's Studies, took inner flight. All are troubled and alarmed about the future of feminism in the academy. To reveal the root causes of these tensions and animosities, Patai and Koertge present an incisive analysis of the self-defeating ideological games feminists play in colleges and universities, among them IDPOL (identity politics), WORDMAGIC, TOTAL REJ, and BIODENIAL, an extreme form of social constructionism. The authors call on feminists in the academy to abandon their self-destructive ways if they are to regain the positive vision that attracted so many people to feminism inthe first place.
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A perfect fall chili made with pumpkin puree, ground turkey, white beans, green chili and spices. Top this with chopped fresh cilantro, scallions, jalapeños, light sour cream, and/or reduced fat cheddar and serve it with baked chips on the side for a wonderful lunch or dinner.
I am so happy to share this one with you!!! Not all my crock pot experiments get me excited, but when they do they wind up here on Skinnytaste. The pumpkin is not sweet at all, in fact, if you don't mention it, no one would even know it's there but it does add beautiful color to the chili and for picky eaters, a great way to sneak in vegetables.
This is pretty mild as far as heat goes, if you want more kick use chipotle chili powder in place of the chili powder and use it according to your taste. Leftovers can be frozen, enjoy!
Crock Pot Turkey White Bean Pumpkin Chili
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Servings: 9 • Serving Size: 1 cup • Points +: 6 pts • Smart Points: 4
Calories: 272.5 • Fat: 2.5 g • Protein: 32 g • Carb: 31 g • Fiber: 12 g • Sugar: 2.4
Sodium: 499 (without salt)
2 lb 99% lean ground turkey
1/2 tsp olive oil
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15 oz can pumpkin puree (not pumpkin pie filling)
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text: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 Lack of Vitamin D Associated With Greater Pain, Sensitivity in Black Americans A new study reveals that black Americans display lower levels of vitamin D and greater pain sensitivity than do white Americans. A Vitamin D deficiency may be a risk factor for increased knee osteoarthritic pain in black Americans, the authors conclude. Clinical practice guidelines state that vitamin D levels less than 20 ng/mL represent deficiency, and levels between 21 and 29 ng/mL represent insufficiency. Given that low levels of vitamin D are linked to chronic pain and other health conditions, especially in black Americans, the research team set out to investigate if variations in vitamin D levels contribute to racial differences in patients with knee pain caused by osteoarthritis (OA). Researchers at the University of Florida and the University of Alabama at Birmingham recruited 94 participants—45 black and 49 white patients with symptomatic knee OA—to complete questionnaires regarding their symptoms. The study group was 75% female and an average 56 years old. In addition, study participants underwent testing that included sensitivity to heat and mechanical pain on the affected knee and the forearm. Researchers measured heat pain threshold as the point when patients indicate the sensation "first becomes painful" and pain tolerance when patients "no longer feel able to tolerate the pain." Mechanical pain measures were determined by the patients' response to pressure in the knee and forearm. Findings indicate that despite living in a southern sunny climate, 84% of black participants had vitamin D levels less than 30 ng/mL compared with 51% of white subjects. Furthermore, the average vitamin D level for black Americans was 19.9 ng/mL (deficiency), compared with white Americans who averaged 28.2 ng/mL (insufficiency). Black participants reported greater overall knee osteoarthritis pain, and those with lower vitamin D levels displayed greater sensitivity to heat and mechanical pain (experimental pain). "Our data demonstrate that differences in experimental pain sensitivity between the 2 races are mediated at least in part by variations in vitamin D levels," said lead author Toni Glover, MSN, ARNP. "However, further studies are needed to fully understand the link between low vitamin D levels and racial disparities in pain." Comments Just an idea that may be worth consideration. Do you think that the vitamin deficiencies are related to dietary/nutrition customs or a metabolic difference? Thank you for your information. Posted by Heidi Harris on 1/13/2013 10:58 AM


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Nokia Acquiring Trolltech
Today, Nokia and Trolltech announced that Nokia will be purchasing Trolltech. Nokia will continue with Qt's dual license model, which was updated to GPL 3 only last week. In an open letter to KDE, the chief Trolls and Nokia VP asked for ideas and comments on improving their relationship with the open source community. Nokia will be applying to become a patron of KDE e.V. and the FreeQt foundation is being maintained to guarantee the continued freedom of the toolkit KDE depends upon. This change should help ensure both the continued longevity of Qt and KDE as well as give the platform a boost in industry, particularly in the consumer electronics industry.
I'm less worried about a sinister plan
The open source-ness of qt has been ensured by both Trolltech and Nokia. I'm just worried about Nokia not getting the open source thing like Apple did. If all the current practices for qt development are kept then this is a great thing that will benefit everybody.
By Skeith at Mon, 2008/01/28 - 6:00am
This is a problem
This is a problem in the lunux community. Everyone runs around looking for the bad, rather than just sitting back and watching what unfolds. For allyou know this could be the best thing to happen, so stop the panic and worry and let it unfold.
By RJ at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
Slashdot readers agree with me wholeheardetly.
Nokia, thanks for destroying something that promised to be so great. Qt, will become useful only for mobile phone (smartphone) related stuff, and that will be it sadly.
150 million? Trolltech could have sold their soul for much more money. MySQL got 1 Billion dollars. *Dr. Evil pose*
Hopefully the trolltech guys have some time looking for other jobs, as I doubt they have the job security they had in the past.
Well hopefully Nokia will embrace KDE and the Linux desktop community as well. Maybe they will even make a new Linux based set-top box similar to Apple TV.
I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard. Where is the reassuring news from Nokia? Nokia needs to post something positive, concrete, and believeable VERY SOON. That reasuring open letter, while a nice gesture, means nothing.
We will be watching the level of commitment, the number of weekly commits, and any other measure of progress very closely.
Well at least this part of the Linux world stayed in Europe and didn't sell to a U.S. company. Here in Europe the legal system at least protects the open source world somewhat. Maybe Nokia will rethink software patents too now.
By Richard Lionhard at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
WTF? Why all this negativity?
Apparently Nokia needs a new good cross platform UI, and they decided to buy one rather than develop one by themselves. Good for Nokia. Good for the Nokia developers getting a better platform than Avkon, and good for the Qt developers getting a big company backing them up.
Also, Nokia is a huge development house with (tens of?) thousands of software developers working with a variety of platforms, including PC's. Nokia has loads of internal custom dev tools for PC, this is a great opportunity for Nokia to build it's internal tools to be X-platform with Qt.
And BTW, I believe Nokia has used Qt in some of it's commercial PC sw for some years already. So I see no reason why would they stop developing Qt for desktops.
Please, stop being so f***ing lame people!
By Angry Dad at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
"Please, stop being so f***ing lame people!"
I fear you are wasting your time; over the last year or so, The Dot has become a haven of Chicken Littles and Drama Queens who squeal and sob hysterically over any news that might possibly (with a whole lot of effort and an unhealthy dollop of pointless and unrealistic cynicism) be contorted into having some kind of negative side associated with it[1]. It's an embarrassment.
[1] See e.g. http://dot.kde.org/1172721427/
By anon at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
ah the memories. One of my posts there is exactly what you are talking about. It did take me a little longer to follow through on my drama queen antics about switching to Gnome, but I actually finally did it this week, the last straw being the Nokia thing.
I'm still hanging around the dot occasionally because I used and loved KDE for many years. Maybe some time in Gnome will bring me to my senses, just in time for a KDE 4.1 release that will be ready to earn my confidence again. Maybe by then Nokia's position and direction regarding TT will be clarified. If that happens I'll be sure to be back, and I'll strongly repudiate my earlier objections to KDE's direction.
If I was a total drama queen then, I apologize. I was responding to things that seemed to be leading to me not enjoying KDE anymore. At least I'll be giving an honest attempt to put my money where my mouth is by following through for a while at least with the overwrought musings about leaving.
I think the lesson for me has been not to get involved with software: just treating it as something I use. There's no way I'll be filing bugs for Gnome and hanging around whatever they have instead of the dot. If I end up back with KDE I'll have to do the same and just roll with the changes. It'll save me some heartburn, but is rather disappointing to lose my pipedream of a DE that is just right for me and over whose direction I exercise a modicum of control. The whole KDE4 and Nokia sequence killed a dream, but left me (I hope) more grounded.
By AS at Thu, 2008/01/31 - 6:00am
Re: I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
I agree. We should watch the level of commitment and the pace of development.
Maybe we're lucky and it will speed up. If Nokia engineers and programmers will contribute to the project now, that number should go up significantly.
Now that we have Sun on board, all we need is google!!!
I also agree that it's good that at least Nokia is an European company. Much better than if it were an American (lobbyist *err*) company.
By Max at Thu, 2008/01/31 - 6:00am
Re: I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
"I also agree that it's good that at least Nokia is an European company."
That's European Commission thinking, that is: "must promote our regional champions at the cost of other businesses" (although it doesn't come out like that, obviously). If anything it's worse when a European company is, amongst other things, lobbying for software patentability because the different EU representatives won't be tempted to just brush them off as predatory foreign interests looking to transfer their home advantage to other markets.
By The Badger at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Re: I'm not the only one who sees Doom & Gloom
That's true, never thought about it this way.
Hopefully (dreaming) Nokia will change their thinking. I used to like the company A LOT!! about 10+ years ago.
My second cell phone was a Nokia. (first was "hagenuk <-- what ever happened to them?) I probably had at least 5-6 Nokia cell phones in my lifetime. We have a Nokia TV, and a Nokia satellite tuner. They make outstanding products.
If Nokia would make something nearly as good as my Blackberry Pearl, I'd probably still have Nokia products. Maybe with KDE/Qt that will again be the case. Especially if I can sync it with my Linux and Windows desktops with no issues whatsoever.
Nokia just needs to get back to it's roots and adopt google's ~"Don't be evil!"~ philosophy. If Nokia will do more for open source and against American concepts like "software patents" *grr* we will give them a second chance and welcome them with open arms.
By Max at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Uh oh...
Does this mean the next major version of KDE won't have a "Qt 5 dance"?
By AC at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: Uh oh...
NO, it means that the Qt 5 Dance will be a ringtone.
By lpotter at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: Uh oh...
Guess what it will sound like?
By Max at Thu, 2008/01/31 - 6:00am
Take: Price of TT getting bought (150M), divide by Nokia's Net Income 2007 (7205M according to wikipedia), and you get that result (math done using kcalc ;-) ).
What does that result mean?
Now imagine you would only have to pay 2.1 from your income to reach all these points with 1 buy. I call it a cheap shot (pun intended?).
Sorry to sound that pessimistic, but right now, I feel very worried about the future of No Software Patents, Open Source and KDE.
By anonymous coward at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Good for QT and Trolltech and bad for KDE.
Nokia has zero interest in KDE.
By fun at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: HUMMM
I'm not so sure about that. Think plasmoids running on the PC desktop as well as other handheld devices. The same desktop everywhere...
Might fit right into Nokias strategy.
By Axl at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Its Obvious...
Lets think of it from a different perspective; you have 40% of the phone market share. Nokia, as with all other phone/mobile electronics companies, always discuss ways to improve; not always in features but in money also.
Nokia, has quite the compition this year, with Google's Android, and Windows Mobile coming this following year. They are probably looking for a newer, much better platform for there mobile phones, one with a much better roadmap. They have been using Qt for quite awhile, in a few of there phones and in there desktop mobile suite of applications.
Few things Nokia could want from Trolltech and Qt/Qtopia:
Few bad things Nokia could want from Trolltech and Qt/Qtopia:
By jeremy at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: Its Obvious...
> Integration with KDE, think of Nokia plasmoids on your desktop.
And this might actually become a real Microsoft-killer. Nokia has a global 35% market share on handsets.
By Dane at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Windows killer
> Integration with KDE, think of Nokia plasmoids on your desktop.
And this might actually become a real Windows-killer. Nokia has a global 35% market share on handsets.
By Dane at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
This must have really hurt. :|
I hope Nokia will start utilizing Qt on their cell phones but if possile don't try to pull of anything dirty since Microsoft has something to do with this bought no matter how I look at it. No matter the reasons they are behind this in some way.
Look, Nokia supports software patents, Nokia doesn't want OGG to HTML5, they are Gnome company on their FOSS side of things, They support and USE DRM in their products, Why is their Music Store WMA/WMV store instead of some other format?, ...
Lots of reasons why this means war and why it is really bad news for many kde users out there. Plus that personally I cannot stand now the GTK and Gnome people starting their own commentatory about things with "It's just like we said 10 years ago what would happen" or "hahha, we knew this was going to happen and now kde is going to fall down."
Longlive kde...
By AnXa at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: Ouch!
"ut if possile don't try to pull of anything dirty since Microsoft has something to do with this bought no matter how I look at it. No matter the reasons they are behind this in some way."
By anon at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: Ouch!
microsoft have nothing to do with it, get your facts straight before you start running around like a chook with its head chopped off
By RJ at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: Ouch!
>>Look, Nokia supports software patents,
So do IBM, HP, Sun and many other large OSS sponsors/supporters.
>>Nokia doesn't want OGG to HTML5
They didn't want any specific media format tied to the format
>>they are Gnome company on their FOSS side of things
They utilize GTK and have been very vocal about it's shortcomings and lack of roadmap.
>>Gnome people starting their own commentatory about things with "It's just like we said 10 years ago what would happen" or "hahha, we knew this was going to happen and now kde is going to fall down."
Is this your first day on the internet? ;)
They say that about every point release or project announcement that appears on the dot. Life goes on.
By elsewhere at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Excuses, excuses
"Look, Nokia supports software patents,"
"So do IBM, HP, Sun and many other large OSS sponsors/supporters."
This is the "everyone else is doing it" excuse. However, the most genuine supporters of Free Software have been companies like Trolltech, MySQL and others who were quite happy to go on the record and say that software patents are wrong.
At least one can say that some of these big companies are moderately serious about not suing people into the ground over patents by, for example, participating in patent non-aggression pacts such as OIN (http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/) - I mean, even Philips is a member, and in the whole software patent lobbying affair, they didn't come out much cleaner than Nokia. Meanwhile, Sun's stance on patents has probably shifted somewhat after getting sued by Kodak over some techniques used in the standard Java libraries: a $92 million lesson for Jonathan Schwartz.
"Nokia doesn't want OGG to HTML5"
"They didn't want any specific media format tied to the format"
Reading the position paper from Nokia, it says firstly that "the active endorsement of proprietary technology such as Ogg, ..., by W3C, is, in our opinion, not helpful" (probably trying to set records for comma usage along the way). I think the response by the Ogg developers says more than I ever could about how this "proprietary" labelling of genuinely open technologies is, at the very least, dishonest:
But what do you expect from a company whose business is based on an industry driven by patent licensing cartels? I'm sure they can peruse their portfolio and find a few things that vaguely apply to (and thus encumber) their favoured solutions.
By The Badger at Wed, 2008/01/30 - 6:00am
god speed to kde
hope kde does what is best and takes the necessary action that will benifit the free software community in the best possible way.
this will be really hard for awesome kde/qt developers.
my best wishes are with kde.
often the truth is hardest to swallow, the earlier you do it the better it will be. hopefully kde wont repeat the same mistakes again.
it will be also better for nokia to spill out what is their future roadmap to kde. which i think they wont. it will be worst to make huge promises to qt/kde and then piss upon them after few months. this is highly anticipated from nokia so it shouldn't be a surprise when it happens.
i am moving away to gtk/python, although not very good compared to kde/qt but i dont wont to deal with licensing issues and evil takeover. i can do my work in peace and enjoy it. this entire fiasco was a learning lesson for me.
kde team has put a lot of hardwork since many years and kudos to them. it will be really sad to see them run over by some mega multi billion corporation with their own money making agendas and quaterly results.
By goodluck at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Re: god speed to kde
The kde 4.0 case (release with bugs but release so people will forget us) also left a bad taste in my mouth.
Maybe it's time for someone just create a lighweight fork of both qt and kde and start a new and small DE?
By Iuri Fiedoruk at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Fork dat hoe!
at the first sign of trouble from Nokia, fork it for KDE and never look back!
By Marc Hildebrandt at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
almost crying
I feel so betrayed!!!!
I thought that between freedom and commercial, we don't have to choose. I still think that. But I forgot you can buy most of mens with money. Trolltech's chiefs were ones of them.
I didn't see that.... foolish I was!
ps: To Nokia, freedom is not just buying a free company or giving money to kde, it's a true commitment which means putting freedom first of ALL. Do this commitment and you will be welcome, even if you don't become a patron of kde. We do not need your money but you do need our trust. Can we trust you???
By disapointed at Tue, 2008/01/29 - 6:00am
Cautiously optimistic
You are absolutely right about the commitment issue. This issue is essential for "Qt everywhere" vision to become reality with Nokia owning Trolltech. I assume Nokia is really planning to use Qt/Qtopia as a toolkit in their crossplatform strategy.
KDE and TT, keep up the good work :-)
Nokia will most probably
turn this into a mobile only toolkit and forget about the rest. It's definitely the end of commercial development of Qt IMHO. Don't know if this is a bad thing though. Qt is GPL. Look at what happend to X11. Anybody still using that? A fork is about that happen soon.
By Michael at Wed, 2008/01/30 - 6:00am
Re: Nokia will most probably
Complete nonsense. With Google's Android and the Asus EeePC the lines between mobile phones and small PCs are soon to vanish.
Oh how i sob for your indignant fury
It is quite frankly pathetic.
This is business, TT is a company, the acquisition is not necessarily a bad thing.
Nokia acquired TT after they adopted the GPL3.
Nokia have applied to be a KDeV sponsor thus showing goodwill.
QT is in a very healthy state (4.4) for KDE build its near mid-term future if the worst were to happen.
And yet all i see is a bunch of drama queens claiming to have been betrayed by TT and cast into the rapacious maw of Nokia.
congrats TT, lets hope it works to KDE's benefit.
By Laughing at the... at Wed, 2008/01/30 - 6:00am
Re: Oh how i sob for your indignant fury
> And yet all i see is a bunch of drama queens claiming to have been betrayed by TT
And those are mostly anonymous cowards who in reality are maybe mislead GTK guys in disguise anyways ...
Re: Oh how i sob for your indignant fury
> And yet all i see is a bunch of drama queens claiming to have been betrayed by TT
And those are mostly anonymous cowards who in reality are maybe mislead GTK guys in disguise anyways ...
Nokia is pure evil!!
Nokia is no better than M$ atm. They closed down the Bochum ALTHO it made LOTS of profits and told people otherwise ( New information leaked to Capital magazine. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/102705 the factory made 132 profit.)
Just a bunch of lying corporate dumb fucks if you ask me.
Mark my words: KDE IS DOOMED!
By Bochumworker666 at Wed, 2008/01/30 - 6:00am
Re: Nokia is pure evil!!
It's pretty apparent you deserved a job with Nokia more than some Untermensch in Romania. Keep fighting the good fight.
By AS at Thu, 2008/01/31 - 6:00am
Re: Nokia is pure evil!!
Not true and I did not say that.
My points are:
- Nokia will fuck everybody over if they think there is more money to be made somewhere else.. no matter how good of a job you do. Very Walmartesque if you ask me.
Any objections?
By Bochumworker666 at Thu, 2008/01/31 - 6:00am
Re: Nokia is pure evil!!
It's not really about Nokia, the problem is called CAPITALISM.
Re: Nokia is pure evil!!
"Siemens maybe?"
How unfair to bring Siemens up just as they were learning about "lubricating the wheels of business" in various sectors where brown envelopes seem to be the norm! ;-)
It's interesting to see that they're mentioned in the small print of the Trolltech acquisition, though. Life in the telecoms cartel goes on, it would seem.
By The Badger at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Re: Nokia is pure evil!!
Yes, Deutsche Telecom... how could I forget those very nice people whose goal is to squash any and every other company that has the word "Tele" or "com" in it's name?
Re: Nokia is pure evil!!
Weren't those Capital numbers proven wrong? Some estimated averages that had nothing to do with the said manufacturing facility or its real performance.
However, as we all know, Nokia is evil, unlike, say Motorola and others that have moved away from Germany long before this. Nokia should have left like others years ago. Would have caused less fuss then. And a foreign company is always a cute target, especially in Germany, where people are aware of their own superiority. Have always been.
By EineKleine at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Awesome :)
I'd love to have a good Nokia phone with Qtopia on it :) Last time I used Qtopia was on a Sharp Zaurus PDA and I liked it a lot... it would be wonderful to have Linux and a similar interface on a phone...:)
By dreamscape at Wed, 2008/01/30 - 6:00am
improving their relationship with the open source.
Here is a good way to improve their relationship with the open source community.
By Giovanni Venturi at Wed, 2008/01/30 - 6:00am
Now it's time to start planning KDE5 which is bound to be a QT-free release
By no-one at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Re: KDE5
Maybe Gnome3 will be built on QT.
Re: KDE5
Er ... why not (In the absolute worst possible case) continue with KDE4 using the last released Qt4 version?
By anon at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Re: KDE5
"I offer a toast. The 'undiscovered country.' (Beat) The future."
By Max at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Re: KDE5
> KDE5 which is bound to be a QT-free release
a QuickTime-free release? I wouldn't bet on that.
Apple want it to be the next Flash and aggressively pushes it in its 'video' tag, hijacking the W3C as needed, with help from Nokia who would love to see such DRM-ridden proprietary crap become pervasive.
By Seb at Fri, 2008/02/01 - 6:00am
Re: KDE5
Great post. Totally agree with you.
By Max at Sat, 2008/02/02 - 6:00am


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Krusader Project Needs Developers
Krusader (screenshot) is a twin-panel file manager for KDE, patterned after old-school managers like Midnight Commander and Norton Commander. It features basically all your file-management needs, plus extensive archive handling, mounted filesystems support, ftp and much much more. So far, the project has been developed by two developers, whose time is now not enough to continue the rapid pace of development. If you're a developer and you're interested in Krusader, we need your help!
Since we're not students anymore, our day jobs prevent us from dedicating the same time into Krusader as we did in the past. We've come to understand that although we have many plans and ideas for Krusader, it will take us a long time to complete them. Development will slow down (as it has for the last 5 months), and new versions will come out more slowly. This is obviously not a desirable situation.
Basically, we need more developers on the project, so that when we have a "down-time", development will not stop. Our TODO list for the upcoming versions is
Thanks for your time!
I prefer Settings/Load View Profile/Midnight Commander.
By Konqfan at Thu, 2003/05/22 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
Can someone tell us what the differences are?
By John Tapsell at Thu, 2003/05/22 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
krusader is a twin-panel filemanager. it looks like midnight commander with a GUI, or something like windows commander. it's a whole different way of managing files, much different from the explorer-style konqueror (to which i salute also!)
By Shie Erlich at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
I still don't understand.
What does krusader offer over this?
By John Tapsell at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
There's a difference between split-panel and twin-panel. If you split a view in Konqy, you get two (more or less) independent views (and the embedded konsole is yet another independent view). At most, you can lock them together, making them use the same URL. But the twin panels in Krusader/MC/whatever work together, and the command line also works with the active panel.
How do you quickly copy some files from one dir to another in Konqy? In both cases, you view the two directories in two views, but in Krusader, you select the files, hit F5, and hit Enter, it's done. I don't use Konqy for file management, but I doubt you'll achieve the same without mouse fiddling, because a) there's no such keyboard shortcut, b) how would it know to which view to copy?
By L.Lunak at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
In konqueror you would select the files in one pane, them drag them across to the other. Hardly a big deal :)
I can't say i'm totally convinced here :)
But I'll trust that it is better in some ways..
By John Tapsell at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
ad a) I doubt that it would be hard to add an action "Copy to other view" to Konqueror.
Neither a) nor b) are convincing arguments for Krusader (except that they are currently not implemented in Konqueror). All functionality which the article mentions, i.e. extensive archive handling, mounted filesystems support, ftp, is also possible with Konqueror. I do not doubt that Krusader has some features that Konqueror doesn't have (yet). But I don't think that it makes much sense to continue this unnecessary duplication of code. It would be much wiser to add a Mignight Commander mode (not just a profile) to Konqueror than to keep developing Krusader as standalone application (it could still be made available as standalone application even if it's made a KPart). Just have a look at the following mostly high-priority items from the TODO list:
All of this is already implemented more or less in Konqueror. In my opinion it would be a waste of precious developer man power (it's not as if we would have too much developers) to duplicate all these features in Krusader just because the handling of Krusader and Konqueror is slightly different.
By Ingo Klöcker at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
first, there is no code duplication. when krusader got started (almost 3 years ago), we had to implement things that were not available in KDE. as time went by, some things got implemented in kdelibs (and you wouldn't call that duplication, would you?). once we see that something we did, is implemented in the libs, we drop our code (unless there is a really good reason), and use kde's. this allows us to use a maintained code, avoid duplication and inherit every bug-fix that kde developers do.
second, regarding the todo list:
last, notice that a twin-panel filemanager IS a different conecpt. if we'll take
By Shie Erlich at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad that my concern about code duplication is unjustified.
By Ingo Klöcker at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
I think the problem here are not the features. Just some people (Like myself) are used to the good old norton commander for DOS. I just do not like the explorer type file managers. In the windows world I use the Total Commander (former windows commander, his Billness asked them to change the name, after several years). When I use KDE, I use Krusader.
My point is, it's irrelevant that other file manager do the same, we just like Krusader more than others. Unfortunately, I'm a C++ 'disabled' person (ASM and some C) so I cannot help.
By jose marin at Sun, 2003/05/25 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
> a new embedded SMB browser: i'm using kde at work, on a big windows-centric
Ever try lan://?
It uses lisa, and lets you browse numerous useful services on a lan, like smb, ftp, http and fish.
By goat at Tue, 2003/05/27 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
just tried it now, and the most i get from it, is a list
By Shie Erlich at Wed, 2003/05/28 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror - there *is* such a keyboard shortcu
In Konqueror, you select the files, hit F7, hit Enter, and it's done (F8 is move, F10 mkdir -- come on, you could have looked in to the edit menu ;-) . There is also support for ctrl-(+), ctrl-(-) for wild card selection.
As for the target pane: it asks for a confirmation of the directory when you do it, and with 2 views the destination is not ambiguous, is it?
By Sad Eagle at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
copying files in konqy: select the files, press F7 for copy, F8 for move
By aleXXX at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
... I should have scrolled down the complete thread brefore replying...
By aleXXX at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
Speaking of which, as soon as I load a profile, it kills all my current tabs.
But it does seem like a bug that all my current tabs are thrown away.
By KUser at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Konqueror
Or atleast if thats difficult to code, may I suggest a warning box which says:
Warning: all your current tabs will disappear.
ver: KDE 3.1.1a
By KUser at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
What about a merger with Konqueror? It will become THE filemanager!
By Marc Tespe at Thu, 2003/05/22 - 5:00am
Re: Merge
"What about a merger with Konqueror? It will become THE filemanager!"
I agree 100%. First of all: it is the developers' decision. If they want to go their way I fully respect it. But I still think it would be nice if they decided to work on the file management aspect of Konqui (which already is excellent). A merger would be a first step :-)
Cheers !
By MandrakeUser at Thu, 2003/05/22 - 5:00am
Re: Merge
Konqueror is imho a Internet Explorer Clone, not a filemanager. The kitchensink full of bugs included.
By Carlo at Thu, 2003/05/22 - 5:00am
Re: Merge
> I agree 100%. First of all: it is the developers' decision.
Not only that, but krusader actually predates Konqueror. I've always loved krusader... I haven't used it in a while, but it'd be a shame for it not to have more developers. It fills a certain niche (light file manager) that Konqueror can't fill, imho.
By fault at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Instead of merging it with Konqueror why not make a kpart out of it? This way it could be embedded in anything including Konqueror?
By Adam at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Merge
Actually konqy can do almost anything, I don't see a way how something could be "merged". All what would have to be done for konqy would be maybe some more UI tweaks, konqy *can* do everything.
What is missing ?
By aleXXX at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Challenge for students of computer science
Asking for help is an excellent iniciative.
By Carlos Leonhard Woelz at Thu, 2003/05/22 - 5:00am
Looking for developers ?
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By Masato at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Krusader != Konqueror
Although I prefer konqueror I must say that krusader is a wonderful program with a very intuitive interface. I find that new users (new as in new to computers, not new as in "just came from windows) have a much easier time understanding how Krusader works. Its a great project that I do not want to see disappear.
By Strider at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Thanks b.t.w.
Hey, this is a very nice filemanager and I would hate for it to disappear.
By dwt at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Does the FTP/network functionality use it's own code or the KIO support for these things?
By Luke at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Re: Question
krusader uses kio, and thereby has (almost) all
By Shie Erlich at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Heads up from me!
On windows I used Servant Salamander all the time, which is a Norton-clone. The thing I love about this, is that you can do everything with the keyboard. While I like Konqueror as a browser, I never use it for file management as it get's too much in the way (same with Explorer).
for reference:
By Anon Bastard at Fri, 2003/05/23 - 5:00am
Start selling the app
Your app is a good one. Very good! It's super light compared to the konqueror.
Hey, why don't you start selling your app? Then you will find a "payed" time for it and even more you can make a business!
Just start selling the newer version, and when there is released a more recent the previous one becames free.
For example if you are now at 1.11 let start charging for 1.20,
You know nothing is free and the biggest fans would pay for the most recent version! And yes NOTHING is free, people should learn to pay for every single line written! You've spent a hundreds of hours for developing the app and noone from the "community" will pay your time.
Btw you also can start at later point to increase the delta between the free and payed version and someday only 1.8, having 3.0 in the same time for money! Or even just make the app entirely commercial.
Just be careful because we all know what happened to the old Quanta team that started selling it, but in the same time the "free geeks" continued the production of the free Quanta.
May be you have to think about changing the license to non RMS-GPL copyleft one, so making sure that you will protect your OWN intelectual property from the FORKERS.
By Anton Velev at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Start supporting the developers
Pay the developers to continue your much liked apps, and tell your friends to do the same. There's no reason why to close a source just for being able to sell an application. Also developers keep their own intelectual property even with GPL while by going commercial you are exactly provocing the forking behavior you naively think to be able to avoid.
By Datschge at Sun, 2003/05/25 - 5:00am
Krusader and Open Source
Krusader is a fine product. The ecology of open source suggests that those bits of software that are useful to a large audience of users and developers survive. I'm guessing that Krusader has a small audience and will eventually whither away. It's a real shame for the guys that have poured their personal time and effort into this product and not have it succeed. It would appear that Konqueror has been a better match to the needs of the largest audience (for now).
By Josh at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Krusader and Open Source
trying to be objective here... krusader does not appeal to the konqueror-using audience. same as windows commander doesn't work for explorer-using guys. same as mc and nautilus. it's simply a different program for different people. i do think, however, that krusader does have an audience and seems to have a dedicated user base. i'd like to think that as long as there are people who needs an alternative over the explorer-like file manager, krusader will be there for them ;-)
btw: if you'd look outside KDE, you'll see a lot more programs which manage files differently than konqueror.
By Shie Erlich at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Krusader and Open Source
No, not at all. Sometimes useful programs die too. Like KIllustrator which was pretty damn good in the KDE1 days.
It is not fair to compare Konqueror to Krusader because Krusader does not get as big a distribution as Konqueror does. KDE really needs to find a way to promote these "outside" apps more to distribution vendors, especially good ones like Krusader.
By ac at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Krusader and Open Source
well, in my old mandrake days, i noticed that krusader came on mandrake cds (although on the last one ;-). i think it's included with debian also, and i know about suse and redhat builds. obviously, gentoo (which i'm using today) has an ebuild. problem is, and not only with krusader, that a lot of good kde applications get no attention (or almost no attention) - unless someone is good enough to post something on the dot on their behalf. the problem, as i see it, is that users have a hard time finding out about kde programs that don't come in a one of the kde packages. as i remember, a lot of gnome people say that kde is nice, but gnome has more applications. regardless if this claim is truth or not, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to let the people know that kde has some apps to offer.
By Shie Erlich at Sat, 2003/05/24 - 5:00am
Re: Krusader and Open Source
> KDE really needs to find a way to promote these "outside" apps more to distribution vendors, especially good ones like Krusader.
Answer to this is kdeextragear. It'd be awesome if krusader was developed within kde-cvs in kdeextragear. They could still of course, release seperate versions from time to time on sourceforge.
By tr1p at Sun, 2003/05/25 - 5:00am
Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
I have a SuSE 8.2 installation with an Intel 2.56Ghz chip and a gig of memory, and my KDE installation is SLOW. For example, KEdit takes over 30 seconds to load and any of the SuSE config applets takes 1-3 minutes to load and display. What are some of the reasons for this?
By The Stallion at Wed, 2003/05/28 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
It can be the DMA and other I/O params. Ever tried hdparm?
By ac at Wed, 2003/05/28 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
I think you have a screwed up /etc/hosts... KDE itself takes about six seconds to load here on my p4 2.4ghz. Most apps, like kedit, popup within a second or two.. exceptions include Mozilla, and OpenOffice. I'm using gentoo with prelink, GCC 3.3, linux 2.5.70-mm1, nptl.
By ti at Wed, 2003/05/28 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
hell yes it is slow. Slower than Winblows and that is bad. KDE should be scrapped.
By ter at Tue, 2003/08/26 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
what's slow about Windows?
Both Windows(2k) and KDE are pretty fast on my P3 (Katami)/500
By anon at Tue, 2003/08/26 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
Well I guess you might be right, and that is my point. All the Linux people say how Windows sucks etc, but KDE sucks really really really bad. IT IS SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWW.
By ter at Sat, 2003/10/18 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
Hmm.. KDE is not slow. Modern versions of KDE are roughly comparable to XP in speed.
By anon at Sat, 2003/10/18 - 5:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
I have SUSE 7-1 or 7-2 I would have to look.
Is that a modern version?
By TER at Sat, 2003/11/01 - 6:00am
Re: Does anyone else's KDE run slow?
Actually IT IS SLOW and it is not comparable to xp in speed. I'm a linux enthusiast but when's something is just not right it isn't and kde (Any version btw) is just slow.
By Tony B at Thu, 2008/04/24 - 5:00am
Nice... It's now my main file manager
Before this, I used emelfm (http://emelfm.sourceforge.net/) for file management. Emelfm does some things better than Krusader, but Krusader also does some things that Emelfm doesn't do or doesn't do as well. In addition, although Emelfm a nice, clean program, but I like having a small, working Qt/KDE equivalent that fits in with my KDE desktop a little better. (Konqueror doesn't seem to be very stable on my computer, it's bigger than I want for file management, and I can never remember how to get the two panel mode to work correctly.)
All in all, I think I like what I've seen so far of Krusader. Keep up the good work! (or find the help needed to do so) :)
By Dhraakellian at Wed, 2003/05/28 - 5:00am
Re: Nice... It's now my main file manager
wait till you see what we're doing now ...
By Shie Erlich at Wed, 2003/05/28 - 5:00am
How long till we see Marking in Konqueror?
I've just downloaded Krusader and am getting acquainted with it. It looks like Krusader lets you mark groups of files (maybe even save and load lists of marked files). So how long until we see a tagging facility in Konqueror's file manager?
I organize my FAQs, school files, and drawings and it would be MUCH easier to move things around if they're tagged -- otherwise, if I slip up on the mouse and make a stray click, I lose my whole selected list.
By Roey Katz at Thu, 2003/05/29 - 5:00am
Re: How long till we see Marking in Konqueror?
krusader DOES allow you to save preset selections.
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Carbohydrates are the body's most important and readily available source of energy. Even though they've gotten a bad rap lately and are sometimes blamed for the obesity epidemic in America, carbs are a necessary part of a healthy diet for both kids and adults.
The two major forms of carbs are:
So how, exactly, does the body process carbs and sugar? All carbohydrates are broken down into simple sugars, which are absorbed into the bloodstream. As the sugar level rises, the pancreas releases the hormone insulin, which is needed to move sugar from the blood into the cells, where the sugar can be used as energy.
The carbs in some foods (mostly those that contain simple sugars and highly refined grains, such as white flour and white rice) are easily broken down and cause blood sugar levels to rise quickly.
Complex carbs (found in whole grains), on the other hand, are broken down more slowly, allowing blood sugar to rise more gradually. A diet that's high in foods that cause a rapid rise in blood sugar may increase a person's risk of developing health problems like diabetes and heart disease, although these studies have been done mostly in adults.
Despite the recent craze to cut carbs, the bottom line is that not all foods containing carbohydrates are bad for kids, whether they're complex (as in whole grains) or simple (such as those found in fruits). If carbs were such a no-no, we'd have a huge problem since most foods contain them.
Still, some carbohydrate-dense foods are healthier than others. Healthy sources of carbohydrates include:
For kids over 2 years old, a healthy balanced diet should include 50% to 60% of calories consumed coming from carbohydrates. The key is to make sure that the majority of these carbs come from good sources and that added sugar in their diet is limited.
Carbohydrates have taken a lot of heat in recent years. Medical experts think consuming too many refined carbs — such as the refined sugars in candy and soda, and refined grains like the white rice and white flour used in many pastas and breads — have contributed to the dramatic rise of obesity in the United States. (Of course, not exercising and eating overly large food portions are key parts of the obesity epidemic.)
How could one type of food cause such a big problem? The "bad" carbs (sugar and refined foods) are easy to get, come in large portions, taste good, and aren't too filling. So people tend to eat more of them than needed. And some are not needed at all — foods like colas and candy provide no required nutrients; instead, they add only "empty calories."
But this doesn't mean that all simple sugars are bad. Simple carbs are also found in many nutritious foods — like fruits, vegetables, and dairy products, which provide a range of essential nutrients that support growth and overall health. Fresh fruits, for example, contain simple carbs but also have vitamins and fiber.
The 2010 dietary guidelines recommend that Americans eat more unrefined ("good") carbs, saying that everyone — including kids and teens — should increase whole-grain consumption and avoid added sugar. In fact, at least half of grain intake should come from whole grains.
Whole grains certainly sound like the healthy way to go. But what makes them so different from simple carbs? Whole grains like brown rice, oatmeal, and whole-grain breads and cereals are complex carbohydrates.
Complex carbs:
Some refined grain products are "enriched." This means that nutrients like some B vitamins (such as thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, and folic acid) and iron are added back after processing. So these products might contain more of these nutrients than unrefined whole-grain foods that have not been fortified.
The actual amount of grain consumption needed depends on a person's age, gender, and level of physical activity. Most school-age kids should eat four to six "ounce equivalents" from the grain group each day, at least half of which should come from whole grains. An "ounce equivalent" is like a serving — one slice of bread; 1 cup of ready-to-eat cereal; or a half cup of cooked rice, cooked pasta, or hot cereal can be considered a 1-ounce equivalent.
Foods that are high in added sugar (soda, cookies, cake, candy, frozen desserts, and some fruit drinks) tend to also be high in calories and low in other valuable nutrients. As a result, a high-sugar diet is often linked with obesity. Eating too many sugary foods also can lead to tooth decay.
The key to keeping sugar consumption in check is moderation. Added sugar can enhance the taste of some foods, and a little sugar, particularly if it's in a food that provides other important nutrients (such as cereal or yogurt), isn't going to tip the scale or send your child to the dentist.
Instead of serving foods that are low in nutrients and high in added sugar, offer healthier choices, such as fruit — a naturally sweet carbohydrate-containing snack that also provides fiber and vitamins that kids need.
One way to cut down on added sugar is to eliminate soda and other sugar-sweetened beverages. Consider these facts:
Instead of soda or juice drinks (which often contain as much added sugar as soft drinks), serve low-fat milk, water, or 100% fruit juice. A note: Although there's no added sugar in 100% fruit juice, the calories from those natural sugars can add up. So limit juice intake to 4-6 ounces (118-177 milliliters) for kids under 7 years old, and to no more than 8-12 ounces (237-355 milliliters) for older kids and teens.
It isn't always easy to tell which foods are good choices and which aren't. To figure out carbohydrates, look under Nutrition Facts on food labels, where you'll find three numbers for total carbohydrate: the total number of carbohydrates, the amount of dietary fiber, and sugars.
Although carbohydrates have just 4 calories per gram, the high sugar content in snack foods means the calories can add up quickly, and these "empty calories" usually contain few other nutrients.
Making sure that kids get a balanced, nutritious diet isn't as hard as it may seem. Simply make good carbohydrate choices (whole grains, fruits, veggies, and low-fat milk and dairy products), stock your home with healthy choices, limit foods containing added sugar (especially those with little or no nutritional value), and encourage kids to be active every day.
Above all, be a good role model. Kids will see your wholesome habits and adopt them, leading to a healthier lifestyle throughout childhood and into adulthood.
Reviewed by: Carla W. Holder, MD
Date reviewed: August 2014
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With ultrashort bond funds, it all depends on the definition of modest.
We don't cover many of these funds anymore," said Sarah Bush, senior mutual fund analyst with Morningstar, told ThinkAdvisor recently. "Ultrashorts were yielding too little and got really small, and we just felt we needed to deploy our resources elsewhere."
But when Bush took a second look, she found a surprise.
"The category has experienced modest inflows really since the beginning of the recovery in 2009," she explained, adding that this includes the massive bond fund outflows seen in June.
A closer look at Morningstar data reveals modest net flows of $4.4 billion and $2.3 billion in 2010 and 2011, respectively, for corresponding total assets of $35.4 billion and $37.8 billion.
But in 2012 the asset class took off, comparatively, racking up $9.5 billion in net flows and $48.4 billion in total assets. So far, this year looks even better, with $5.4 billion in net flows and $54 billion in assets through July.
So why ultrashorts, and why now? The answer is yield, of course, and interest rates.
In an investing environment where the dual problems of low yield and increasing interest rate risk dominate headlines daily, ultrashort bond funds might be the trick.
"If [investors] have a 10% or 20% allocation to cash because they're defensive or they're looking for better entry points into the equity or fixed income markets and they don't want to earn zero in a money-market fund, then an ultrashort fund makes sense," says Charles Melchreit, manager of Pioneer Investments Multi-Asset Ultrashort Income Fund (MCFRX).
Another appeal, in particular, is their flexibility.
For instance, Melchreit's fund, co-managed with Seth Roman and Jonathan Sharkey, is "massively diversified" in that it hits a lot of different levers across a lot of different sectors.
"I don't think that's as unusual now as it once was within this space," he said. "We're looking to invest in sectors that are not terribly correlated. Most sectors have some correlation, but we're really trying to take advantage of any imperfect correlations that we can in the short-duration space."
The fund has a heavy focus on risk management and trying to manage net asset value volatility so it doesn't experience massive swings.
"The ultrashort world is now using a lot of different sectors in corporates and mortgages and even bank loans, money-market instruments and cat bonds," Melchreit said, "all of which appeal to different investors and present for us as an investment manager different pools of liquidity."
Meaning if faced with a period of high redemptions, he has a choice of which securities to sell.
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The Logger Template
Now, let's look at the logger template body (Listing Eight), and at the implementation of the support functions that are used by the print operation.
Listing Eight: Logger template body.
template< typename log_policy > class logger { unsigned log_line_number; std::string get_time(); std::string get_logline_header(); std::stringstream log_stream; log_policy* policy; std::mutex write_mutex; //Core printing functionality void print_impl(); template<typename First, typename...Rest> void print_impl(First parm1, Rest...parm); public: logger( const std::string& name ); template< severity_type severity , typename...Args > void print( Args...args ); ~logger(); };
Lines 4-9 provide a private function and visible attributes such as
log_line_number just to keep track of the current line number; for each print invocation the number will be increased by one.
Get_time and
get_logline_header are support functions used to format the log message header, and they are implemented in Listing Nine.
Listing Nine: get_time and get_logline_header implementation.
template< typename log_policy > std::string logger< log_policy >::get_time() { std::string time_str; time_t raw_time; time( & raw_time ); time_str = ctime( &raw_time ); //without the newline character return time_str.substr( 0 , time_str.size() - 1 ); } template< typename log_policy > std::string logger< log_policy >::get_logline_header() { std::stringstream header; header.str(""); header.fill('0'); header.width(7); header << log_line_number++ <<" < "<<get_time()<<" - "; header.fill('0'); header.width(7); header <<clock()<<" > ~ "; return header.str(); }
Going back to Listing Eight, at line 10-13, the declaration of
print_impl is visible, followed at line 15 by the logger-constructor declaration. Lisiting Ten shows the constructor and destructor bodies.
Listing Ten: The logger constructor and destructor.
template< typename log_policy > logger< log_policy >::logger( const std::string& name ) { log_line_number = 0; policy = new log_policy; if( !policy ) { throw std::runtime_error("LOGGER: Unable to create the logger instance"); } policy->open_ostream( name ); } template< typename log_policy > logger< log_policy >::~logger() { if( policy ) { policy->close_ostream(); delete policy; } }
Note that if the allocation at line 5 fails and it is not possible to create a
log_policy object, then a
std::runtime_error is thrown. As previously explained, no exception handling is performed here after all, if this small logger is not able to allocate the amount of memory required by
log_policy, then something very weird is happening.
The simple logger described in this article can be used easily in any project to track code behavior during runtime, I think that its Achilles' heel is actually the need to lock the writing mutex in the
I think that a good logger should always provide a near constant execution time in any circumstance, which is problematic when threads might have to wait for mutexes to be released. However, in practice, unless numerous threads are logging, the operations are fast enough that there is no significant delay.
The source code for this article was tested with g++ 4.7.2 and requires the C++11 multithread functionality support to work properly; refer to http://tehsausage.com/mingw-std-thread-gcc-4-7 if you get into trouble when compiling this project.
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"Link is designed with unrestricted enterprise productivity at its core. It is the first product on the market to combine the unmistakable benefits of device-independent applications built using HTML5, with a disruptive data security platform that ensures sensitive corporate data is safe on any device," comments Seth Hallem, CEO of Mobile Helix. "We believe the notion that fixed and mobile applications require different development, delivery, and security solutions is fundamentally flawed."
The firm says that even when devices are "rooted" or "jailbroken," Link ensures that corporate data is not at risk. Link includes a secure container on the device, fully device-independent encryption of all data in motion and at rest, a management architecture that ensures encrypted data remains safe, and a policy engine that allows IT to enforce policies on applications and data rather than on devices.
"Contrary to popular opinion, mobile operating systems aren't necessarily less secure than PC operating systems. A tablet or smartphone with the right data security posture can be as, if not more, secure than a typical corporate laptop. PCs are perceived to be safe because of the numerous security 'band aids' that are applied to them, such as anti-virus, full-disk encryption, DLP, and network access control," says Maribel Lopez, founder and principal analyst of Lopez Research.
Link integrates with existing IT processes and infrastructure to enable a simplified "download free" application delivery and support model, removing the need for a separate enterprise app store, app catalog, and dedicated distribution and update processes for every different application and mobile operating system.


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Some see signs of hope in a revival in state and local government spending, which after years of being dragged down by poor revenue collections, is showing some life. Indeed, an analysis by Lord, Abbett & Co. released Monday makes this case, arguing that a boost in spending and hiring should aid the economy.
While the analysis by economist Milton Ezrati shows that sources of revenue, including even property taxes, have finally reached the pace that historical trends would have put it at were it not for the housing and financial crises, it states an important caveat:
"Of course, some of these new monies will be directed away from new hiring and spending toward pension trust funds, where many states, towns and cities face huge funding gaps."
That caveat is the subject of another (and totally separate) report by the Manhattan Institute for Public Policy Research, which, while acknowledging that the economy is growing and spending is rising, asserts that the increased revenues will necessarily be absorbed in the black hole of pension and health care costs of retired public employees.
In other words, taxpayers should expect to see no benefits in terms of improved government services from the current upswing in revenues, barring significant reforms.
Titled "Quantifying Crowd-Out," the report by the libertarian think tank's senior fellow Stephen Eide shows through tables and charts how local government expenditures on current employees and services have declined as the share reserved for the benefits of former employees has grown.
So while local government revenues have grown 1.7% from 2008 to 2011, pension contributions have grown 8.9% during the same period. What is referred to as OPEB ("other post-employment benefits") in budget parlance now accounts for 12% of the typical city's budget.
But that figure actually understates the problem since it reflects what governments are spending on OPEB rather than what they should be spending. Large pension systems have been found to make just 80% of annual required pension contributions.
And even those that fully fund their pensions often make unrealistic investment return assumptions (such that in reality they remain underfunded). Another problem is that local governments may fund, even fully fund, their pensions with pension obligation bonds that become another budget line item for annual debt service.
Eide looks at the crowd-out phenomenon in five different cities, drawing some lessons from their experiences.
In Los Angeles, in the difficult years between the fiscal 2007 and 2014 budgets, overall spending increased 2% while health and retiree spending increased by 10 times that amount. In that time, the city has lost 5,000 employees — 1,000 of them in public works. The message is that budget math necessitates a reduction in current services.
Eide describes energy-rich Houston as the biggest boomtown in America over the past several years. While the metro area has added 300,000 jobs since the recession bottomed out, its city personnel numbers look much like they did two decades ago, while the city borrows from credit markets to pay for OPEB obligations that it is underfunding. This difficulty is a legacy from the big benefit increases Houston extended to city employees in the go-go '90s.
Boston is cited as a positive role model of a city that has successfully wrestled its heath-care costs down via co-pays and deductibles. As a result, health benefits percent of city revenue has actually been declining in each of the past three budget years.
Baltimore's current trends don't look good yet the city has undertaken a farsighted 10-year financial forecast. The report therefore describes the city as at an inflection point similar to where Boston and Detroit were in 1980, before the former got and the latter lost its grip on its finances.
The fifth city examined, Detroit, illustrates the thin line between crowd-out and insolvency. When emergency manager Kevyn Orr issued his restructuring proposal, he projected that the city was less than five years away from the point where two-thirds of its budget would be devoted to legacy costs. The report shows that Detroit would not be bankrupt but for its pension and retiree health care debt. For cities at this stage, the untenable choice is between police or promised benefits to former city workers.
While the problems of fixed contractual costs may seem beyond the control of city managers, Eide says there is a way out in managing crowd-out, and that is to reduce the principal rather than interest, so to speak.
Cities should resist taking on new hires; follow the example of governments that have exempted some portions of compensation from collective bargaining; shift more health care costs to copayments and deductibles as is standard in the private sector; adopt 401(k)-style retirement plans whose costs can be expensed precisely up front, as is done in the private sector, rather than defined benefit plans whose whose funding is costlier and less predictable; shift compensation more toward salaries rather than benefits.
More controversially, governments can shift employees onto Obamacare exchanges, as Detroit and Chicago have pledged to do.
Check out Using Deferred Annuities to Build Pension Plans for the Next Generation by Robert Bloink and William Byrnes on ThinkAdvisor.


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What's more fun—bonds or professional baseball? When asked about the amount of time spent running the day-to-day operations of his Chicago-based investment firm, Incapital, Tom Ricketts doesn't hesitate.
"I'm actually pretty busy with that baseball team over your shoulder," Ricketts quips, pointing to a television screen running a highlight reel.
The chairman of both Incapital and the Chicago Cubs (after leading his family's acquisition in 2009), nonetheless still has a strong hand in the firm, and begins by noting its role as "a pioneer in offering corporate bonds through brokerage firms to investors."
"We've now moved on to distribute additional products such as brokered deposits and UITs," he adds.
Today, Incapital underwrites and distributes fixed income securities and structured notes through more than 700 broker-dealers, institutions, advisors and wealth managers.
When asked about the firm's legacy of innovation and how it's sidestepped the regulatory issues so many other firms have experienced when introducing "great, new products" to the market, only to subsequently go bust, Ricketts simply claims that "Each and every product we've offered has been thoroughly thought through from the standpoint of the investor at every level."
That simplicity translates to everything the firm does.
"We're very consistent in our messaging; we tell investors not to time the market or put all their eggs in one basket, rather, follow a roadmap and don't overact to market events."
Sounds basic enough, but coming from a major league baseball owner seems to give it added heft.
His latest passion are community investment notes, a form of SRI that doesn't tangle with screens, arguments over sacrificed returns and opportunity costs like equity-based socially responsible investing.
"For everyone looking for SRI, here it is," he emphatically states (for Ricketts anyway). "It's like buying a bank CD or as simple as buying any other financial instrument. It's not luck, but rather by design that they're safe, have low transaction costs and low friction."
Arguing that there are no "real, tangible opportunity costs, "it's a way to do social good and enjoy returns."
When asked about his "skin in the game" with the product he is promoting, he says his broker calls when the notes mature and he simply rolls them over.
"It's very direct, and with none of the complaints heard on the equity SRI side. The notes are used for affordable housing, to help start businesses and for micro lending in other countries. They have extremely low default rates."
As to his other love, the Cubs, and the renovations currently happening at famed Wrigley Field, he mentions the intricacies (delicately put) of dealing with Chicago politics—and waiting for the right opportunities to move the renovation process ahead.
Speaking of waiting, he concludes it's something fixed income investors can't afford to do.
"Sure, in the current environment, you might want to shorten your ladder, but the key is to not just do nothing. You can't park it somewhere and get zero percent."