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Monday, March 10, 2008
"NASCAR Now" Finds The Right Combination
The amazing changes at ESPN continue where NASCAR is concerned. One of the most dynamic has been the new Monday "roundtable" version of NASCAR Now.
This one hour show has moved from a single-anchor scripted program to a vibrant discussion of very diverse racing topics. Allen Bestwick has been the key to leading this charge, and continued on this Monday to direct the conversation between a brand new group of panelists.
ESPN2 viewers found themselves looking at the most balanced group of NASCAR veterans the network has assembled so far this season. Mike Massaro has worked for years to represent ESPN where NASCAR is concerned, and his insightful commentary from a media perspective is straightforward and informative.
Ray Evernham is working hard for ESPN this season to overcome some credibility issues that arose from his personal choices, and continues to use his diverse background as both a crew chief and owner to his advantage. ESPN is going to use Evernham in a variety of roles this season, and he seems to be a natural on-camera.
Finally, it may have caused fans to do a double-take, but there he was. Sitting alongside of Bestwick was Johnny Benson. In NASCAR TV land, there was no bigger story a couple of years back than Benson and Bestwick getting summarily fired from the Inside NEXTEL Cup Racing program they had both anchored for years on SPEED.
The irony of a well-spoken and experienced Benson perched on his chair in the NASCAR Now studio was not lost on veteran fans.
Bestwick led the panel into the story of the weekend, which was tires. Evernham was diplomatic, and simply wanted both Goodyear and NASCAR to solve the existing problem. Benson had driven on the tire at Atlanta, and focused on the fact that simply lasting for one fuel run should be the simple goal for Goodyear. Massaro repeated the sentiments of Dale Earnhardt Jr. in saying Goodyear simply went way too far after early issues during testing.
The NASCAR Media Group continues to provide outstanding features that serve to wrap-up the weekend with all the drama that group has managed to create in their past full-length programs. ESPN would be well-served to consider growing that relationship.
In recapping the weekend, Bestwick led the panel into the topic of Carl Edwards and his struggles for the past ten days. The specific topic of the oil-cooler lid was reviewed fairly, and included video of comments on both sides of the issue.
Bestwick was curious about why the comments were so caustic. The panel was divided on whether this issue was just about racing innovation or actually personal issues among senior team management. Using the picture of Edwards car and the actual oil cooler lid at the end of the race was a great touch. This even-handed approach of exposing both sides of the issue worked very well.
Craftsman Truck Series highlights were next, and once again NASCAR Now followed through with a taped interview of the winner, Kyle Busch. Nationwide Series highlights followed, detailing the hard hit Kyle Busch took including his memorable interview with ESPN's Shannon Spake.
Benson's low-key intelligence and his extensive experience in all three series brought something to the show that had been missing. Whether discussing testing, drivers or track issues, Benson could instantly offer the most up-to-date information for one simple reason. He was there and involved in it.
The key activity of this "Monday after" was a Goodyear tire test at Darlington. NASCAR Now had Lead Reporter Marty Smith on-scene to provide a timely report on the activity and the mood. This is exactly the type of commitment that fans had been searching for since last season.
Smith's report included soundbites from all three of the drivers involved in the test, who specifically addressed both the issues from Atlanta and for Darlington. Once again, however, the ridiculous problem of noise from the cars affected this report. Smith had problems hearing the panel, and several of his comments were drowned-out by cars on the track. This is the third time that ambient noise has played a role in affecting what should have been a very good report.
In previewing Bristol, the Kyle Busch name surfaced again. Bestwick used the panel to remind us of the strange race from last fall at Bristol. All three panelists weighed-in with comments about the "good racing vs. no action" at this small track topic.
As the program wound-down, once thing was very clear. ESPN had hit on a combination of personalities and experience that got a lot of good information across to fans. A reporter, a crew chief/owner and a veteran driver had each been able to talk about the same topics from their own unique perspectives.
Viewers were free to agree or disagree, but Bestwick worked hard to get all the viewpoints on the table, especially for the controversial issues. This format has been a positive change, and the fact that ESPN has worked hard to back-up this one program with other changes in the network's NASCAR coverage is a positive statement for the future of the sport.
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46 comments:
- Anonymous said...
-I posted this in the other thread exactly as you were posting this. Please feel free to remove the duplicate in the other thread.-
Allen said - at this point, he really doesn't care whether the 99 had the oil lid tank off or not, he's more interested in the tone and quotes coming from the other drivers like sadler and Lee White.
Maybe he was just trying to justify that they're talking about when it's old news, but it rubbed me the wrong way when he said, at this point he didn't care whether they broke the rules. Sounded strange.
Very good report by Marty Smith live from Darlington Goodyear tire test. Talked to Biffle, Newman, Gordon about the tires (Gordon much more conciliatory today than yesterday's quotes, saying the COT is hard to make tires for) and then talked to them about the new surface. No interviews with anyone from Goodyear.
Per suggested question here about about discussing top 35, they showed who's just in top 35 and who's out, but no discussion.
Overall, this show was pretty "meh", in my opinion. I feel the time could have been used more wisely. They only seem to discuss 3-4 topics per hour and really no depth and a lot of dancing around topics. Ray, who has of course been penalized by NASCAR numerous times, said only NaSCAR and Roush know what happened and the rest was speculation. Fine, but maybe you should advocate that the process should be more open so drivers (and fans) won't speculate.
Rusty was missed because I'm OK with his blunt style. I'll repeat: I wasn't comfortable with Allen, the host/reporter, saying he didn't really care about whether the 99 penalties were valid or not.
The panel does their best to come across as relaxed and friendly, and they do. So that's a plus. But pacing needs to be improved.
- March 10, 2008 at 5:10 PM
- Anonymous said...
Ken-Michigan said...
ALL those Goodyear engineers and experts at Darlington for the tire test......
Did ESPN / Marty Smith invite Goodyear to be part of the segment, did Goodyear decline or did the producers feel it wasnt necessary ??
Over the years it seems that stories like these get swept under the carpet, never to be heard from again.
After watching the program today, that's the way I feel. Aren't the news media supposed to investigate these things or are they just supposed to accept them as "moot points"?
The viewers (at Mr. Daly's invitation) here posted so many good, intelligent questions today on the other column of what they would like to see discussed on NN and TWIN. People sincerely want to understand what has happened with the oil lid and the tires, and it seems some of the media is like, "whatever, moving on". Like we're just supposed to watch them drive and not worry about the cars - even when the drivers are so visibly angry or upset about something about the cars, tracks, tires, etc.
No we're not all tech heads, but basic explanations of issues involved in penalties or driver unhappiness with cars on these programs would help.
Maybe it's just that the media don't know. David Poole was honest enough to say he didn't understand why Jeff Gordon's accident was so bad until Greg Biffle drew him a diagram explaining why the wall at the LV track was so dangerous.
Heck, Jeff Gordon brought a bumpstop to Tradin' Paint last year and explained in a minute or so what Kenny and Jimmy could not in however long they talked yesterday. Visual explanations are always good. So get the people who can explain to do so.
- March 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM
- Sophia said...
I thought the NOISE PROBLEM with Marty at the track was idiotic since they CONTINUE to have this problem. Sigh.
I enjoyed the show but wished some opinions had been stronger.
It reminded me how HUGE an error it was to FIRE AB and JB from INC. Then this years SPEED show totally blows but I am enjoying the NNow show.
I thought they could have expanded on some things more like the tire issue. But that's ongoing.
I did NOT know how to take AB's comment either about "he doesnt care if 99 MEANT to cheat or not"???? Say what?
It was great to FINALLY SEE with my own eyes the car photo passed around the garage...with Carl doing a back flip while INSIDE the back seat is the oil lid at a strong 45 degree angle or so, and the window adjusted (i guess to allow the fumes to escape?)
But that is what is is (Carl penalty) I am more concerned with the tire deal or the bump rubber issue. The Bump stop deal not addressed at all like it would've been on some Monday night shows of the past.
STill, to see live conversation wins hands down over taped, rehashed highlights ....or YAPPING about Bristol when as somebody else said, so MANY things from this last race are still unanswered.
Hope they get the NOISY REPORTS from the track fixed next week or ESPN should show subtitles under reporter du jour so we can here them.
I hope all who missed it can catch the repeat.
- March 10, 2008 at 5:36 PM
- Anonymous said...
I thought the show was very good. It was great to see Allen Bestwick and Johnny Benson together again. IWC/INC was never as good after they were canned. I am tired of hearing rehash after rehash about the dust-up over Edwards penalties, and I thought that the discussion they had was interesting because it did go below the surface a little. (I think anonymous above misinterpreted what Bestwick said. I understood him to mean that he wanted to get beyond who was right or wrong and get to the dynamics about why the exchanges were so pointed and nasty.)
ESPN is to be applauded for having improved so much since last year. Let's hope that SPEED can keep up with their Monday night content.
- March 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM
- Anonymous said...
IMO the 5 phantom debris cautions were more controversial then Goodyear's crappy tires
- March 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM
- Anonymous said...
Not sure if I'm the only one, but Johnny Benson does absolutely nothing for me.
He added little, in my opinion, to the Inside Nextel Cup show in previous years and rarely put together a statment that went longer than 2 sentences. After todays show I see that things havent changed. Personally, I don't need to hear from a driver on network TV commenting on the very race he couldn't even qualify for. (keep in mind Skinner qualified in top 5 at vegas in that car).
He might be a riot around the campfire on a saturday night, but as a TV personality / analyst, he would be way down the list if i'm the producer.
I'll always give credit where credit is due, but in this case, I've got to give my opinion.
- March 10, 2008 at 5:57 PM
- Anonymous said...
After 3 of the 4 most popular Cup drivers (including 2 past, multiple champions and the most popular driver)have made strong, negative comments about the tires, I bet only a couple of Goodyear people are authorized to speak to the press - and maybe none of them were at Darlington.
I found it very significant that Dale, Jr. made blunt comments about the tires and that Tony made very strong, but unemotional, comments about the tire failings.
JD, how easy would it have been to deal with the engine noise in Marty Smith's report?
- March 10, 2008 at 6:00 PM
- Anonymous said...
"Maybe it's just that the media don't know. David Poole was honest enough to say he didn't understand why Jeff Gordon's accident was so bad until Greg Biffle drew him a diagram explaining why the wall at the LV track was so dangerous."
Greg Biffle is underused as a source on television for all things technical in NASCAR. Supposedly he just shows up unannounced at the NASCAR R&D shop in NC to talk to them about issues that he has with the cars and safety. He seemed to have the best comments for Marty from the tire test today. Would like to hear more from him when this kind of news comes up. (but it may be that's why he's always out testing and not able to appear on TWIN or other shows, because his opinion is respected.)
- March 10, 2008 at 6:08 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Anon 6PM,
Let me put it this way, it would not have happened on my community CATV station while covering the Christmas parade. And those technicians are all...volunteers.
- March 10, 2008 at 6:23 PM
- Anonymous said...
NASCAR Now Mondays are okay, but I don't love it yet like you all do. I've watched or recorded every one of them, and I thought the first one was the best and it's gone downhill on the other three.
There's a lot of news from after each race that they're missing by spending so much time on limited roundtable discussion topics. Brian Vickers is in the top 12, out of nowhere. Jimmie Johnson is having all kinds of problems; they overcovered him before the season began, and now when he should really be discussed -how off that team is- they ignore it.
And based on last week, the rest of the NASCAR Nows airing tomorrow-Thursday won't follow up on those type of stories either. Other than some good Marty Smith hustle, it's been very superficial coverage to me, just like last year - it's just being presented by more likeable and knowledgeable people.
Have they had any type of non-race interview/off track story since Brad D. did his Petty interview at the shop? I haven't seen any type of pretaped story like that since then, which makes me think they're not using all of the 10-15 people I see listed on the NASCAR Now roster to their best advantage.
Surely with four hours of airtime, we could get to see something offbeat, or get to know some of the lesser known drivers better. Or owners: I've never seen an interview with George Gillett or the man who bought into MWR.
They really need to remember: NASCAR is about the drivers. We want to see interviews with the drivers/crews/affiliated people, not constant talking heads opining six days a week. Not a single member of that roundtable today drove in yesterday's race; that view was missed.
I don't care if they're via satellite or not; NN, interview some more drivers.
- March 10, 2008 at 6:26 PM
- Sophia said...
they did not mention this on NN but we just found out you do not need a print out proof for Arby's. Just say "I want my Matt Kenseth free fries." I had never eaten these and they were good.
I am still THRILLED I got to see the 99 open lid PHOTO that had been going around the garage. If they showed it on Race Day I missed it as I only caught half that show.
The rest of the week is screwy hours for NN so you guys with DVR's tape accordingly and allow extra time.
- March 10, 2008 at 6:30 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Anon 6:26PM,
Very good comments and points for NASCAR Now to think about as they grow this show.
- March 10, 2008 at 6:49 PM
- Anonymous said...
This was the first Monday show I have caught. I was seriously impressed with the show.
The photo of the 99 was what was needed, after hearing about it 3 or 4 times on Speed over the weekend it was nice to actually see it.
I still wont watch the show unless AB is hosting. I'm giving TWINS one more shot tonight, if it sucks, Ill just keep watching ESPN Mondays.
- March 10, 2008 at 7:00 PM
- Sophia said...
Anon 6.26
I have to say there were more LAUGHS and diverse talk in the first show with Rusty and Brad D. I still enjoy the shows but was hoping they would add Rusty and, can't believe I am saying that or this, Brad back to the mix.
BUT it would be great to get some INSIDE SCOOP from drivers in the race. They could have two drivers side by side on remote (Just get RID of the loud Ambient noise, please ESPN)
I think if you added a couple of racers from the weekend race to the ESPN Round table, we may indeed have what many of us are missing later on Monday nights.
Great food for thought for TPTB at ESPN.
- March 10, 2008 at 7:00 PM
- Anonymous said...
Anyone else happen to see Kornheiser and Wilbon tonight?
They attempted to discuss the Tony Stewart tire complaints, but got hung up on the fact they didn't know before this weekend that all Sprint Cup cars run the same Goodyear tires.
At first I laughed at that, but then I thought maybe NASCAR Now could spend a midweek episode that needs filler explaining what are "stock" items (fuel, etc) and what is not (oil I believe)
- March 10, 2008 at 7:01 PM
- Kenn Fong said...
For those who missed NN live, ESPN2 will repeat it at 2:30 AM EDT Tuesday morning. If your cable company did not supply you with a DVR, you might check with them to see if you're entitled to one. They changed the way I watch TV. Even if I'm watching something not recorded, I can go back to see something a second time. This is great when you're watching a race.
- March 10, 2008 at 7:09 PM
- Anonymous said...
In addition to doing a superb job today at Darlington, Marty Smith fixed his hair.
Looks great, Marty (really). Thanks.
- March 10, 2008 at 7:22 PM
- Anonymous said...
Unless TWIN (the poor substitute for IWC) comes up with something totally new than they've been doing, the Monday version of NN is hands down much better. I find the different viewpoints very interesting. They manage to avoif being just a rehash of the same old race coverage. AB is perfect, and Ray Evernham does a great job. ESPN has come a long way.
- March 10, 2008 at 7:31 PM
- Newracefan said...
Good show, I think if they bring JB back he will start to feel more comfortable and talk more. They covered each topic as much as they could with the time constraint. Fewer topics we would have been screaming they are not covering the issues. The big complaint has already been covered- Marty's report and the ambient noise. I can only assume that he did not think there would be a car on the track at that time but someone should have checked first. I also wonder why Marty did not speak to a Goodyear rep (perhaps tomorrow)although he did answer my question about why Toyota wasn't there not that he really got a good answer out of anyone. Top 35 subject could have been covered a little more but that may be my bias (I am a MWR fan).
- March 10, 2008 at 7:38 PM
- Anonymous said...
Slowest pole speed since they re-configured Atlanta.
(12 MPH slower than 1997)
Phantom caution flags.
Goodyear Tires concerns from drivers.
No Side by Side racing at Atlanta.
Wouldn't we all like to hear NASCAR's comments on the Atlanta race ??
Hunter? Helton? Darby? Pemberton?
Any kind of "official" comment or response would be welcomed in the media.
- March 10, 2008 at 7:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
Mulhern had comments from Jim Hunter:
Mike Helton, NASCAR's president, deferred to spokesman Jim Hunter, who said that officials would be talking with Goodyear: "I'm sure we'll have some conversations with Goodyear to see what can be done, and what they plan to do.
"Part of it is this new car; there is no doubt this new car is harder to drive. They're up on the wheel. That was part of bringing out the new car.
"And emotions run high after a guy has run 500 miles.
"It will take a while to sort this out. This is the first race here (with the car of tomorrow). Back when they ran the tests here they never had really good days (because of weather). I'm sure Goodyear will do everything it can to sort it out.
"We'll sort it out. We'll get with the teams, and we'll get with Goodyear, and we'll sort it out."
I'll just wait to see if/what happens to 'sort it out'.
Tom in Bristol
- March 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
Another good Monday night NASCAR Now. I was very happy to hear a balanced discussion on the two dominant issues of the week - the Carl Edwards oil lid cover and the Goodyear tires.
During the week I was very disappointed that every media outlet seemed to defend Roush Racing and constantly say "there was no way this was intentional". Rusty Wallace was all over ESPN saying there was no way a team would do this intentionally because of driver safety and DW and Larry Mac said all week at Roush wouldn't do that because "it wasn't enough of an advantage". In fact do I remember correctly that DW even said it's not an advantage so make it legal for everyone to leave the lid off? I also couldn't have stood Larry Mac saying one more time that if you rewound the last 5 laps and put that lid on Carl's oil tank he would have won Las Vegas anyway.
The endless sympathy and excuse-making for Roush made me sick all week and I was thrilled ESPN finally offered the other side of the story on Monday. Elliott Sadler's comments that the side window was cracked open to let Rusty's harmful fumes escape and the video evidence of such was a welcomed sight for this viewer.
As for the tires I was thrilled to finally see someone other than an active driver criticize Goodyear. Ray Evernham's explanation that Goodyear simply should have made the tires hard enough to last one fuel run but instead went way overboard and made them last at least 2 fuel runs was excellent. I also very much enjoyed his thought that Goodyear should make an entirely new right side tire for this CoT.
At the same time ESPN was also fair and found a couple drivers that liked the tires - Carl Edwards and Paul Menard - so I give them credit for balanced coverage. Again this was a welcomed sight for this viewer that was sick of seeing Fox completely ignore the tire problem during their pre-race show (it would have made Fox look awfully smart if they would have given pre-race coverage to the tire issue based on how things turned out at the end of the day don't ya think?, major missed opportunity there) and hearing the announcers in the booth immediately brush off the issue and immediately defend Goodyear right after Tony's post-race Fox interview.
There was way too much politcal correctness by all the TV outlets all week long so I was glad to see a balanced report on these two major issues, with someone stepping out a limb and not being afraid to say "Roush knew what they were doing" or "Goodyear brought a bad tire to the track."
It's unfortunate that almost the entire show had to revolve around these two topics because there are always so many other topics that deserve air-time but I didn't mind ESPN giving the proper attention to these two major stories that definitely deserved more than a simple passing comment from each of the panel members.
Good job ESPN.
- March 10, 2008 at 8:15 PM
- Anonymous said...
Anyone else happen to see Kornheiser and Wilbon tonight?
They attempted to discuss the Tony Stewart tire complaints, but got hung up on the fact they didn't know before this weekend that all Sprint Cup cars run the same Goodyear tires.
I saw it online. They are so clueless, it really is funny. "In golf you use whatever golf ball you want, why do the cars have to use the same tires? That's weird!" It should make me mad, but I like K&W so I can't get mad.
Interesting that they assume they Tony will receive a fine for what he said.
Over on ESPN.com main page, here's a headline:
Gordon: Stewart Overreacted about Goodyear Tires
Poor Tony. He's like the boy who cried wolf. When he really has something he wants to say, people don't believe him.
Personally, if what Tony was saying didn't have some truth, I wonder why Mike Massaro said on NN that Earnhardt Jr, Mears, Truex Jr, Eury Jr came to the tire test on their own to watch.
- March 10, 2008 at 8:27 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
Anyone else happen to see Kornheiser and Wilbon tonight?
They attempted to discuss the Tony Stewart tire complaints, but got hung up on the fact they didn't know before this weekend that all Sprint Cup cars run the same Goodyear tires.
I saw it online. They are so clueless, it really is funny. "In golf you use whatever golf ball you want, why do the cars have to use the same tires? That's weird!" It should make me mad, but I like K&W so I can't get mad.
Interesting that they assume they Tony will receive a fine for what he said.
I'm going to give the PTI guys a pass on this one. I honestly don't expect anyone that doesn't follow this sport regularly to know that Goodyear is the exclusive supplier of tires to NASCAR, and that all the teams lease the tires from Goodyear at the track, and don't bring their own tires from home like they do their cars, engines, etc. In fact as recently as 1994 there was another tire company in NASCAR called Hoosier, so it's not like it's unprecendented for there to be more than one tire supplier in NASCAR at the same time either.
Yes as a fellow NASCAR fan I can see where this can be amusing to us but sometimes we have to escape from the "bubble" we live in and not take all of NASCAR's intricacies for granted. I have a lot of friends that watch races semi-regularly and still get tripped up and ask questions like "how can a driver that crashes out on the last lap still finish 15th and ahead of a bunch of guys that actually finished the race?", "why does the leader of the race sometimes not restart at the front of the field?", or "what are owner points?"
- March 10, 2008 at 9:02 PM
- Anonymous said...
Thanks TOM in Bristol - appreciate you finding those comments.
- March 10, 2008 at 9:09 PM
- Anonymous said...
About the Tony overreacting article, I read a similar article on Yahoo. It included quotes from the three drivers testing tires at Darlington today and tomorrow. They all said they agreed with Tony, but that he went overboard and made it personal with his comments. I hear Tony did a great job on ESPN News during the post-race press conference expressing what his issue with the tires were and why. But his comments after the race along the lines of going home and removing all the Goodyears off everything he owns and saying that the only decent thing Goodyear has built in 10 years is the trophy, and that they were shoved out of every other racing series because they can't make a decent product make it easy to write him off. I wish he would have said the things he said in the conference instead of personally attacking Goodyear. Yes, the tires were horrible and things need to be changed. I thought Jr. handled it well too - saying that he doesn't like to complain and bash Goodyear, but he needed to say something yesterday.
All three drivers said they agreed with Tony, but that some of his comments went too far. No one said they didn't believe him.
- March 10, 2008 at 9:48 PM
- Anonymous said...
I thought Evernham sounded more like a politician than a Nascar insider. He didn't seem to be able to form his own opinions, as he just sat on the fence. Yes, Tony had a good point, but also yes, Goodyear did a good job. Come on Ray, tell us how you really feel and don't sit there kissing everyone for votes. I do not understand ESPN's love affair with Evernham.
Like Sophia, I thought the highlight of the show was the actual photo of Edwards' car and the lid off oil tank. I never knew that photo existed until I saw it on NN. But what I would love to see is someone expounding on how comments made by Sadler and others will be taken in the garage area. Will Sadler be shunned? Will there be any repercussions from any of the anti-Roush comments? I remember how Jeremy Mayfield had backs turned against him when he "outed" Evernham and his girlfriend Erin Crocker. I would love to hear if Sadler and others will feel any backlash.
While NN has improved over last year, and they are now good competition against TWIN (sorry, but I just cannot like this new version of INC), it still has room for improvement.
- March 10, 2008 at 10:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
I doubt Sadler will be feeling any backlash since there was a long list of drivers that gave quotes saying they didn't think it was accidential. Sadlers's were pretty strong, but so were Jr.'s. Harvick spoke out. Heck, even Jeff Burton had something to say about the unlikelihood of a piece falling off. There were quite a few articles over the weekend about the subject with lots of quotes from numerous drivers and crew chiefs. I don't recall anyone outside of the Roush camp saying that they really bought the accidential claim.
I wasn't surprised to see the SPEED/FOX crew take the somewhat protective stance of the situation because Carl is a part of their team.
- March 10, 2008 at 10:46 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
I have a sneaky feeling that you will be seeing Ray Evernham a lot next season on ESPN...and he will not be a team owner.
(You heard it here first...shhh)
- March 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM
- Anonymous said...
Having seen most of Tony's pit road and press conference comments about the tires, I was impressed that he was very calm and deliberate in both cases. Maybe he could have been more politically correct, but that is not his style and he does have experience in several of the other series he mentioned, and not only as a driver. I think it is also significant what Jeff Gordon said after the race- all of which I expect will carry weight with NASCAR and in the garage despite public comments. I think it would have been significant if some TV or print media rep had mentioned whether or not any teams still have deals with Goodyear and how teams are chosen for tire tests, which essentially amount to extra, free tests. Are there reasons for some in the garage to soft-pedal criticism of Goodyear? From what I have read, and what I see advertised, 3 of the 4 most popular drivers have now levelled significant criticism of Goodyear.
- March 11, 2008 at 12:26 AM
- Anonymous said...
Daly Planet Editor said...
I have a sneaky feeling that you will be seeing Ray Evernham a lot next season on ESPN...and he will not be a team owner.
(You heard it here first...shhh)
March 10, 2008 11:35 PM
JD, that's good info.
While Evernham leaving may be good news for GEM, that doesn't sound like good news for me, the ESPN viewer.
Do they do focus groups? Do they realize how many people simply don't like Ray Evernham? And it's not the same kind of dislike of Rusty Wallace - where people thought Rusty didn't do a good job in the booth and grew to dislike him. The kind of dislike that can be turned around with the right role as Rusty has now.
The dislike of Evernham carries over from the way he mixed his business and personal life and took no responsbility for doing so. Viewers aren't going to forget that because he's charming on camera (and as noted, acts like a diplomat rather than give real commentary).
Please, ESPN, do a focus group, or simply Google and type "Ray Evernham","Erin Crocker", then scan 2-3 pages of results to find out what people really think of your next superstar analyst.
You may be asking for more trouble than it's worth. The NASCAR sports audience IS 43 percent female, you know.
- March 11, 2008 at 5:41 AM
- Anonymous said...
What a wonderful thing to see Johnny Benson! He's a low-key guy, but there's something indefinable about him that enriches a program -- a sort of quiet insight and common sense.
But what is the POINT to having Evernham there? He's years removed from being an active crew chief. He's a failure as an owner and no longer actively running his team. And he threw away his professional credibility by plying his mistress with trucks and ARCA cars while that team went to hell in a handbasket.
An active crew chief or a credible owner would be a much better choice.
- March 11, 2008 at 7:27 AM
- Tom said...
Another solid show. This program is clearly hands down superior to what SPEED is offering on Monday nights. Is it perfect? No. Can it use some fine tuning and tweaking? Yes. ESPN's blind-spot when it comes to on-track noise is particularly annoying. But I have noticed- this year in particular- that when issues arise and are talked about here, there tends to be some resolution or improvement almost immediately (just look how quickly NN brought us the other side of the Roush/Edwards story after we all talked about how one sided it originaly was). Lets just enjoy the fact that NN is now in good hands (on Mondays anyway) and continue to comment on what they get wrong- and what they get right. I am pleasantly surprised by much of what I have seen this year, which is huge because I literally stopped watching all ESPN racing coverage last year.
Inverness, FL
- March 11, 2008 at 8:31 AM
- Anonymous said...
Last night's show was really enjoyable! Not sure how many folks watched it since it was on at 4:00 because of basketball, but I'm fortunate to be home from work by then and had searched on Tivo last week and set it to switch to the channel at 4. I thought this was a great show! SO reminiscent of the old Inside Winston Cup! Especially since Allen had Johnny Benson on as part of the panel last night. Also, were regulars Ray Evernham and Mike Massaro.
Granted it wasn't the knee-slapping humor of the old IWCR, but Ray came up with two of the best lines of the night. One was about Stewart blasting Goodyear after the race. Ray said "he used a nuclear bomb to burn that bridge." :laugh: That was hilarious!
Then later when they were showing a clip of Elliott Sadler holding what looked like a press conference to comment on the 99 team's penalty. This is the first I'd seen of this clip and it had me asking Lou "what is he doing holding a press conference on another team's penalty anyway???" Right after that, Allen said something about all the caustic remarks from everyone on this issue (particularly the Toyota guy). Then he pointed out how some of Ray's people were involved in some of the remarks and Ray says "Yeah, I had old Ricky Bobby there talking." It took me a minute to remember that Elliott drove for him now. Pretty funny to hear him call his own driver that. :laugh:
Overall, an excellent "roundtable" with some good race highlights and discussion by guys knowledgeable about the sport.
- March 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM
- Anonymous said...
I have a sneaky feeling that you will be seeing Ray Evernham a lot next season on ESPN...and he will not be a team owner.
Why? Why use a failed team owner who made things worse by getting involved with a female employee?
Are we supposed to learn what NOT to do? ("Don't do what Donnie Don't does")
- March 11, 2008 at 9:13 AM
- Anonymous said...
Maybe he could have been more politically correct, but that is not his style
"Politcally correct" makes it sound bad. My momma used to call it being "polite."
But Tony isn't polite or respectful, ever.
- March 11, 2008 at 9:15 AM
- Anonymous said...
Regarding "oil lid gate", Jeff Hammond on Fox said "Busted". Doesn't sound like covering for 99 team to me. Also, DW said, NASCAR knew there was a problem with the oil lid from a previous Nationwide race where 4 or 5 teams got caught. He said NASCAR should have mandated all bolts be secured (think I saw 3 or 4 holes) and the oil lid then taped down. NN is heads above TWIN. I also cannot believe I'm saying that either.
- March 11, 2008 at 10:28 AM
- Anonymous said...
"You may be asking for more trouble than it's worth. The NASCAR sports audience IS 43 percent female, you know."
March 11, 2008 5:41 AM
I'm wondering if ESPN executives who are new to NASCAR completely 'get' that the NASCAR fanbase is heavily female, unlike the stick and ball sports they're used to broadcasting.
ESPN may want to be careful with Ray. I recall when Erin/Ray were in their season-long "we're not talking" mode after Mayfield confirmed their relationship. A number of fans emailed Betty Crocker/General Mills to say they would stop buying the specific General Mills products they usually bought because of the association with Ray/Erin. I've not heard much like that happening concerning a NASCAR sponsor before then or since then, which shows how strong a segment of the fanbase's feeling is towards those two.
To their credit, General Mills emailed those fans back (general attitide of response: they reviewed sponsorships often and would consider all comments as they reviewed Erin's sponsorship). There were some blogger stories about it and they published copies of sample emails/replies. At the end of the season, that sponsorship was not renewed. Ray and Erin last year said sponsorship was not renewed only because of performance and not their relationship, but some doubt that claim.
My point is, ESPN should know that they may receive emails of complaint about Ray if he takes a larger role - at races, for example - just like General Mills did. It'll be interesting to see if they are as responsive as that company was.
- March 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM
- Sophia said...
I somehow MISSED Ray's comment about using a nuclear bomb to burn that bridge, about Tony. Thanks for repeating it here as I wondered what AB was commenting about.
*I aint getting a DVR. TW wants another $13.00 for one and usually VCR works fine...just too lazy to tape more shows than we do in this house*
I love this blog, if you miss something it's usually mentioned here.
I had heard the Elliott Sadler comment elsewhere and had "heard talk" of the 99 photo with the lid off but wondered, WHY is NOBODY SHOWING it on tv. That photo spoke volumes!!
Oh, and yea, I think RE is going to have a rocky road with credibility. If this whole Erin deal was further behind him..maybe...it wasn't that it was personal business, it's how he REFUSED to deal with it and allegedly made threats to sue reporters who 'spoke of it'
Jeremy Mayfield did get treated horribly for the comments about his boss, but I heard that was because JM had some history of his 'own'. So, I don't know. there are some things I would rather not know, but once I do, how the folks under pressure handle things in public means a lot.
I would personally not like to see Ray on EVERY WEEK and enjoyed Rusty or Brad more.
Dick Morris had to wait a FEW years after HIS scandal to get a job on Fox news....I'm just saying.
Also, losing the BCrocker sponsorship was no coincidence imo.
IF AB hosting NN everyday, I would be sure to watch or tape EVERYDAY. It's improving but AB just adds that laid back but upbeat, unflappable touch.
- March 11, 2008 at 12:58 PM
- Anonymous said...
The Monday edition keeps on getting better-Great ot see JB as a panelist (like the good ol' days...)Wonder if Schreder will appear on the show?
- March 11, 2008 at 1:19 PM
- Anonymous said...
Sophia --- IMO you make a super good argument when you say if Ray's deal with Erin and the bad way he handled it was further behind him, there wouldn't be posts like this. IMO that's a big problem for him. He needs to go away for a couple of years, like he said he was going to do. Then come back to be a TV broadcaster, and everything will probably be fine. Before this year started, Ray said he's burnt out, he wants to get away from negative people, he wants to work on cars, he wants to spend time with his son, we won't see him at races, yada yada yada. It was contradictory things said (what a shocker!) but they all said he was going away from being in public.
But here he is! As if nothing was ever wrong at Evernham Motorsports or nothing with Erin Crocker ever happened. Somebody around here said before Ray is "failing up", right? I think that was what it's called. That's what it is and ESPN is helping him do it.
Not cool!
---Signed, Vanessa
- March 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM
- Anonymous said...
Why doesn't ESPN get a current crew chief on the panel to replace Ray? I neither like or dislike him. Chad's on TWIN and it's great to get his point of view of the race.
You have to spend the money to get a DVR. Give up going to the movies once a month or something. Once you DVR, you'll wonder how you lived without it.
- March 11, 2008 at 6:07 PM
- Sophia said...
Anon 6.07
Thanks but I live thrifty how it is. Haven't been to a movie theatre in 15 years! What I do watch is from Library or TCM. Rarely go out to dinner. We HATED having to get digital and up two tiers to get SPEED. also for those with TW, I read in the paper they are doing an UPGRADE on DVR's which could erase peoples shows. Those with Time Warner may want to check your local TW affiliates and ask about this! Gonna cause some problems, I hear.
We really just need to tape more so I just don't ask so many questions. Like this one. HA.
I was multi tasking during ESPN Tuesday. What was the 'good answer' Kyle B gave about the tires to Ryan? :-) Had a brief phone call.
If NN were on the same time everyday would tape it. :-)
Would tape anyway for sure if AB was on daily.
- March 11, 2008 at 6:29 PM
- Anonymous said...
Sophia wrote:
If NN were on the same time everyday would tape it.
That's the beauty of a Tivo or dvr, it finds the show for you regardless of where the networks put it on the schedule.
Really, Sophia, you ought to investigate DirecTV, they don't nickel and dime you for digital or everything like cable does. And you can easily get a free dvr from them now.
As to the "haters" of Ray because of Erin, I'm a woman and I don't have a problem with it. People are human; cut them some slack.
- March 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM
- Anonymous said...
I am such a HUGE Johnny Benson fan! And I am such a HUGE Allen Bestwick fan. How GREAT was it to see the two of them together again! WOW! What I would love to see, is for ESPN2 to rival SPEED on Mondays! Yesiree! I would LOVE to see Nascar Now WHOOP Inside Sprint/Nextel/Winston (WHATEVERS!!!) Cup-woop 'em woop 'em woop 'em! I want to see an entertaining, controversal round table every Monday with the same players. Johnny and Allen have to be involved for me to be involved! I will promise to watch and tell everryone I know to watch every Monday IF ESPN does this! Let's Kick Some SPEED Rumps!!! (hahahaha - too much?)
- March 14, 2008 at 2:15 AM
- Anonymous said...
I thought it was refreshing to see JB and AB back in the saddle again. Hope they stay this time.
- March 14, 2008 at 3:10 AM


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PIMCO CEO Mohammed El-Erian is one of many prominent names voicing a deep skepticism of the stock market, suggesting the time to exit risky assets is at hand.
In an article published at the TheAtlantic.com on Wednesday with the arresting title, "The 1 Equation Investors Need to Know to Understand the World Today," El-Erian, who along with Bill Gross serves as PIMCO's co-chief investment officer, gives the formula as: 4 Global Transitions/4 Global Experiments = 1 Unusual Market.
And that unusual market, El-Erian makes clear, is one investors should walk away from.
The four transitions are from assisted growth to genuine growth; central banks purchasing stability to efforts to achieve structural stability; clumsy U.S.-China and inter-European relations to more effective global and regional cooperation; social and political dysfunction to institutional renewal.
El-Erian hints to worry about the success of these transitions by citing Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's recent remarks about today's "unusually uncertain outlook." In the investor's lexicon, "uncertain" is a dirty word.
Responding to today's crisis, governments and central banks unwilling to leave these transitions to market forces are engaging in four bold experiments: China is seeking to build internal demand; Europe is forging ahead with integration despite its many problems; Japan is aggressively pursuing unconventional monetary policy; and in the U.S., the Fed is trying to rescue the economy amid the paralysis of a political system that would normally supply the policy tools needed for growth.
The market, anticipating policymakers' lofty objectives, has tried to "front-run tomorrow's financial returns," El-Erian says. If policymakers succeed, there will be more money to be made. But the PIMCO CEO sees the complexity of these efforts as difficult to pull off, and is advising clients to gradually reduce risk.
"This may not be the time to sprint away from risk," he warns. "But it is the time to walk away."
From broad trends to minutiae of financial ratios, Gluskin Sheff economist David Rosenberg, known for his widely followed daily commentary Breakfast with Dave, is worried about the gold-silver ratio.
Business Insider quotes his Tuesday commentary:
"The gold-silver ratio has risen to its highest point in three years (August 2010), and in the past this served as a flashpoint for a renewed risk-off trade."
Rosenberg adds: "I have to say that when I read the front page of the USA Today business section and see this lead title: 'With Stocks This Hot, Why Worry?,' with famed strategist Ed Yardeni declaring this to be the 'mother of all melt-ups,' I do begin to worry."
While El-Erian, and perhaps Rosenberg, are walking away from risk, economist Larry Kotlikoff told USAWatchdog he moved his money out of the stock market two months ago. Kotlikoff, who could not be reached by AdvisorOne for an update, predicted a bond market crash, adding: "Interest rates are going to skyrocket, and we're probably going to have high inflation because the government is printing money out the wazoo."
For his part, El-Erian expressed worry about bonds as well as stocks, warning about "companies and sovereigns that lack both solid balance sheets and exposure to solid growth."
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In order to help protect patients, family members and health care workers from the spread of COVID-19, no visitors are allowed at any of Wake Forest Baptist Health's outpatient or inpatient facilities, except in certain situations.Learn moreMore COVID-19 Updates
Not that long ago, doctors and nurses would write notes in a patient's chart — often a sheaf of papers fastened to a clipboard — during an office visit. These notes then would be added to the patient's ever-expanding medical file, which was physically stored on the premises. Until the digital age, there was no other way to store a patient's medical record.
But that was then.
Today, more and more patients can expect to see computers instead of clipboards when they hop onto the exam-room table, thanks to the adoption of health information technology (HIT) by U.S. health care providers and hospitals.
These days, the majority of hospitals, doctors' offices, and medical centers nationwide store health information electronically. Soon, all of them will, and the days of the clipboard will be done for good.
An electronic health record (EHR), also called electronic medical record (EMR), is a computerized collection of a patient's health details. But it's more than just that — it's a way of storing and organizing patient information. Like hospital charts, EHR patient files are divided into sections where health care providers and staff can find the information they need to provide patient care or perform administrative tasks.
Information stored within an EHR can include a patient's medical history (including immunization status, test results, and growth and development records), health insurance and billing information, and other health-related data.
Because it's stored digitally, the information can be shared easily among a patient's various health care providers within a facility, and can be sent quickly from one facility to another if a patient finds a new health provider.
Most hospitals have their own unique EHR databases that are set up to be accessible from every computer. To open a patient's health record, a doctor, nurse, or other health care provider would log into the system with a username and password or thumbprint identification.
Often, providers can access information remotely (such as from an off-site computer) by logging into their work's network system via the Internet and accessing the EHR. Systems are directly accessible over the Internet, too.
Everyone knows the jokes about doctors' unreadable handwriting. But the advantages of EHRs go way beyond issues of legibility. EHRs also can:
Yes. A federal law called the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) identifies who's allowed access to medical records. Specifically, HIPAA protects:
So you shouldn't worry if, for example, your nosy neighbor happens to work in the same hospital where your child receives treatment. HIPAA bars anyone from snooping into patient records. And depending on the EHR system, attempts to access classified information might trip an alarm within the institution's computer system and could be traced.
Also, in many EHR systems, hospital employees only have access to the parts of the EHR required to do their job. This helps keep the rest of the record secure and private. And after a user's session has been inactive for a few minutes, the system may automatically log off to prevent others from viewing the information.
In addition, a provision of the law (called the Security Rule) specifically addresses the security of EHRs by establishing national standards for protecting certain health information that is stored or transferred in electronic form. Any provider who transmits health information electronically is required by law, for example, to have safeguards (hardware, software, etc.) in place to limit access to that information to those permitted to see it.
Yes. Just like with old-fashioned paper charts, you have the right to view your child's medical information. Not all health care facilities provide ways for patients and their families to log into the system, but many do.
If your health care provider offers this service, ask what's required of you. You'll probably need to register into the system and provide a username and password. Things like your child's medical history, family history, allergies, and prescription medications will be viewable, but any physician notes, test results that haven't been reviewed, and most psychiatric evaluations will be hidden. Additionally, if your child is a teenager, it's likely that more areas will be hidden to protect your child's privacy.
If your health care facility does not yet offer access to EHRs, you still can request a paper or digital (CD or flash drive) copy of the file. Digital copies can be stored on software known as a Personal Health Record (PHR), either on your home computer or online. Some online PHRs are free, while others have initial setup fees and monthly maintenance costs.
With these accounts, you'll be responsible for keeping your records up to date. While this may take some work, it's a good way to make sure that all of your child's medical information is in one place. Patient-owned records are especially useful for managing the care of kids with chronic conditions and those who receive care at multiple institutions.
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Wednesday, June 24
A Product Review and Give-Away for Cedar Grilling Planks
It's almost the 4th of July, and Americans are gearing up for cookouts. According to the National Retail Federation, 62.6% of Americans will host or attend a cookout, barbecue or picnic this year.
Everyone knows that any decent 4th of July cookout will have hamburgers, hot dogs, corn on the cob, potato salad, and watermelon. But if you want to add some panache to your cookout, then consider buying a cedar grilling plank.
Recently I was asked to do a product review for Fire and Flavor's cedar grilling plank. I was quite pleased with it. According to the company, the plank is made from all natural western red cedar and contains no additional flavorings. It was easy to use: I soaked the plank in water for the recommended 1 hour. (Don't skimp on the time, or the wood could burn too much when grilling.) I placed the salmon on the plank and set it directly on the heated grill racks. It cooked in about 15 minutes.
I really loved the fragrance of the wood while it was cooking. It had a sweet, woodsy aroma that definitely whetted the appetite, as was evidenced by the people near the grill asking, "Mmm... what's that wonderful smell?"
The salmon cooked evenly and maintained its shape perfectly. As for the taste, well, it was lovely. I can't say that it had a particularly woodsy flavor; it was more subtle. When I made beef on the plank, however, I detected a more discernible smoky flavor that was delicious. The meat was succulent and not overly charred as it tends to get when grilling.
The plank can be washed in warm, soapy water, air-dried, and reused 1-2 more times, if not overly charred. The plank comes with clear, easy instructions and several great recipes.
Overall, I would definitely recommend this product.
Now for the best part! Fire and Flavor is offering a lucky Food Blogga reader a chance to win a Fire & Flavor "kit," with goodies such as a cookbook, cedar grilling planks, and cedar papers. Click here for details, and leave your comment below by the end of the day, Sunday, June 28, 2009!
Orange and Ginger Glazed Planked Salmon
Makes 2 servings
Print recipe only here.
2 (4-6 oz) salmon filets
1 tablespoon Dijon mustard
1 tablespoon honey
1 teaspoon unseasoned rice vinegar
1 teaspoon minced fresh ginger
1 teaspoon orange zest, plus extra for garnish
salt and several cranks freshly ground black pepper
1 scallion, thinly sliced, for garnish
1. In a small bowl whisk all ingredients from Dijon through black pepper. Using a pastry brush, coat salmon filets with the sauce.
2. Preheat grill to medium low (350-400 degrees F), and set soaked plank on grill rack. Close lid, and heat for 3 minutes. Flip flank over, and place salmon on top.
3. Close lid. Cook for 12-15 minutes, or until salmon turns pink and the flesh is opaque in the middle.
4. Remove plank from grill. Sprinkle salmon with sliced scallions and serve immediately.
You might also these grilled dishes:
Grilled Watermelon Slices with a Honey-Lime Syrup
67 comments:
- whitneyingram said...
I want these babies for my maple glazed cedar planked salmon.
- June 24, 2009 at 9:18 AM
- Parita said...
Orange and ginger sounds to be a nice combination, looks grt!
- June 24, 2009 at 9:19 AM
- Katie said...
I'm dying to try a cedar grill plank, and almost bought one the other day. I'm glad to hear that they're worth using. Oh, and your salmon looks beautiful!
- June 24, 2009 at 9:19 AM
- Beth said...
We've been really interested in trying out cedar planks this summer..and that salmon recipe sounds like a great place to start! And grilling at night after work is just so quick & easy..I can whip up some quick sides while my fiance works the grill :o)
- June 24, 2009 at 9:20 AM
This is my favorite method for cooking fish, by far and especially salmon. I soak the planks for a long time to make them last longer- like 3 hours if I can remember to start it early enough. I also have some hickory planks that are nice for pork.
The giveaway sounds right up my alley! Count me in!
- June 24, 2009 at 9:35 AM
- Evie said...
I would love to try a cedar grill plank. Oh the salmon I could cook!
- June 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM
I'd love to try using a plank--we've cooked using wood chips before but I would think that actually cooking on the plank would make the flavor even better! I'm thinking some kabobs--chicken, shrimp, beef, etc. YUM!!
- June 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM
- T. Tex Edwards said...
Grilling alot of fish nowadays & we need to try some new methods. Thanks forr the heads up...
- June 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM
- Unknown said...
I'd love a cedar plank so I can try your delicious looking salmon!Yum!
- June 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
- Deborah said...
I've always wanted to try cedar grilling planks! Your fish looks wonderful.
- June 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM
- Kelly said...
I have a recipe that calls for cedar planks, so I'm intrigued, and in on the contest!
- June 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM
- Paula Pereira said...
That sounds delicious, I hope I can win this!
- June 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM
- Lynn (The Actors Diet) said...
Mmmm...I love salmon on cedar planks! But seeing as my hubby's a vegetarian, I doubt I will ever make it. Do you think tofu would work on it?
- June 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM
- Abi said...
i would love a cedar grilling plank so i can impress my family and boyfriend with superior grilling skills! and maybe conquer my fear of the grill...
- June 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
- Janelle said...
Oh, my husband would LOVE the grilling planks!!
- June 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM
- Mrs. L said...
I bought some really inexpensive cedar planks and they are still sitting in a bag...I've been afraid to use them because they look like they would go up in flames even if they were soaked in water for hours!
- June 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM
- Susan from Food Blogga said...
Lynn-I don't see why tofu wouldn't work, though I haven't tried it.
- June 24, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Currently, I am a Culinary student, and I am working toward my bachelor's degree in Food and Beverage Management.
I love to try new foods, whether the item is completely foreign to me or it's just prepared in a new way. However, money has been tight lately, I no longer have the funds to go out and buy new culinary equipment whenever I want to. I very rarely get to treat myself to something such as this.
Cooking is my passion. I would love to win these planks in order to gain more experience and learn different techniques. I share the enjoyment I find in cooking with my friends and family, and preparing a meal is always the best way!
Thank you,
Joshua. (email@example.com)
- June 24, 2009 at 2:24 PM
- Karen said...
Great giveaway, Susan! We use cedar planks all the time but I hadn't heard of the cedar paper. I Googled it and will have to try them as I've wrapped trout in butcher paper to grill... I bet it'd be great with the cedar papers. Don't enter me in the giveaway - we have a *stack* of cedar planks, but I'm glad to learn about the paper.
- June 24, 2009 at 2:32 PM
- The Atheist Cartographer said...
I've never tried grilling with planks--we just got our first grill and so far, I've been afraid to be more daring than burgers and grilled peppers. Hopefully smoky wood plank flavor will force me to become more adventurous!!
My e-mail address is jakannan AT vt DOT edu. Thanks for holding this giveaway!
- June 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM
- Sean said...
Great color on the salmons! I've never personally grilled with planks before but the flavor it imparts is extraordinary!
- June 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM
- lisaiscooking said...
Your salmon looks great! I've never used cedar planks but have wanted to try them since forever.
- June 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM
- milsom said...
i've always wanted to try grilling on a plank, but have never gottten around to it. this would be great!
- June 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM
- Linda said...
We have been grilling fiends with our friends and neighbors this summer and would love to have a cedar plank to add to our community grilling. Great food and great company, what more can you ask for?
- June 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM
- Patsyk said...
I've wanted to try grilling with cedar planks for such a long time! What a great way to prepare salmon and beef!
- June 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM
I just had my first experience grilling salmon on a plank, with a mango/ginger prepared sauce that someone had given me. It was so so so delicious! It is my new favorite way to cook salmon. I would like to give cedar planks to a family member to share this discovery! Thanks for the recipe, we'll give it a try!
Jenny, email@example.com
- June 24, 2009 at 7:00 PM
- Valerie Harrison (bellini) said...
When I walk in the woods close to my home I love the scent of the cedar forest. Cedar also reminds me of my moms cedar chest. I have never had the oppoertunity to cook with a cedar plank so would enjoy the chance:D
- June 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM
- Kara said...
I've always wanted to try grilling some fish (or beef, for that matter) on one of the grilling planks... seems like this would be the perfect excuse!
- June 24, 2009 at 7:13 PM
- Navita said...
Grilling with cedar is new to me...I have only used charcoal to give smoky flavours to my dishes as n when required....looking at that gorgeous salmon....I sure need to get my hands on a plank soon, Susan!:)
- June 25, 2009 at 3:42 AM
The smell of cedar smoked fish- Is there anything better? I have had that at friends houses, but never dared to try it at home. I love that their boards are reusuable too!
- June 25, 2009 at 5:15 AM
- Deeba PAB said...
That salmon looks fresh & delicious Susan...can just imagine how beautifully flavoured it must have been. The cedar planks are too cool too. I smoke my stuff with a piece of red hot charcoal, but this seems different!
- June 25, 2009 at 6:28 AM
- Megan said...
That is a beautiful piece of salmon. Love the orange ginger combo. I'll have to give this recipe a try!
- June 25, 2009 at 6:37 AM
- malleycc said...
I am not sure it took my message it told me my cookies were disabled so I will try again. Yumm those salmon look wonderful.
- June 25, 2009 at 6:48 AM
- Rachel said...
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- June 25, 2009 at 7:31 AM
- Kelly said...
Great recipe! I stumbled it... I would like to try this particular recipe on the cedar planks. I don't cook fish very often, and I need the practice!
- June 25, 2009 at 7:40 AM
- Annemarie said...
Reading through the comments - who knew salmon on a plank was such a phenomenon! Really like the sound of your fish as well as the plank, even if it's only for the gorgeous smell it's sure to give off. A bit of aromatherapy with your food.
- June 25, 2009 at 8:18 AM
- Manggy said...
I would love to try this sometimes-- does the beef still develop that flavorful crust, even with the wet wood on it?
- June 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
- Unknown said...
I really want to try the cedar plank. The salmon recipe you posted looks delicious. Thanks for a great post. jura
- June 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM
- Cookie baker Lynn said...
Grilling on planks is such a great way to cook seafood - it stays moist and the flavor can't be beat. My planks are ready to be tossed, so I'd be excited to win these.
- June 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM
- debra said...
this sounds absolutely lovely. Salmon cooked on a grill is one of my favorite things.
- June 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM
- chefectomy said...
Very nice Susan, I love Cedar planked salmon. Try doing rack of lamb on the plank - It's really excellent. Your preparation looks devine.
- June 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM
- Amy said...
Cedar plank salmon, sign me up.
- June 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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- June 26, 2009 at 1:01 AM
- GF Gidget said...
I would like to receive this grilling kit so maybe my husband will like salmon!
- June 26, 2009 at 4:52 AM
- Christie Stump said...
That salmon looks amazing! I've recently gotten my husband into trying more fish...I know he'd enjoy it even more if he got to be the one to grill it on one of those fabulous planks!
- June 26, 2009 at 5:25 AM
- Lin said...
I've just purchased my first grill. It would be wonderful to try grilling on a cedar plank, especially since I live in Seattle, where salmon is adored.
- June 26, 2009 at 8:56 AM
This recipe is making my mouth water! I would love to try the cedar planks out for a weekend bbq I'm having this summer in Chicago. Taking advantage of the warm weather in this fantastic city with a delicous entre sounds wonderful! firstname.lastname@example.com
- June 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM
- We Are Not Martha said...
Mmmm I love fish cooked on cedar planks. Seriously no better way and it just seems so rustic and fun!! Yours looks delicious!
- June 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM
- Unknown said...
Ive never planked salmon, but a fiend with a fisherman brother in law just gave us a huge slab of salmon! I'd love to try it out this way
- June 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM
- Sara said...
My boyfriend absolutely LOVES grilling, and I know that he would have a fantastic time using a cedar plank. Having mentioned this possibility to him, he says that he is "obsessed with cooking and learning how to make new and exciting dishes, and a cedar plank would broaden my amateur repertoire".
- June 26, 2009 at 4:43 PM
- Toni said...
I had cedar plank cooked salmon in a restaurant before but never tried it at home. I love the idea of trying it with beef because getting too much char on your beef isn't too good for a body.
- June 26, 2009 at 5:39 PM
My boyfriend's Birthday is right around the corner, and he would be so excited to receive these planks as a gift! Ever since my dad show him how to use the grill, he has absolutely -loved- grilling! We've barely used the stove, lol. We are very big fish eaters, since we don't eat beef, so he will definitely be giving this recipe a try! It looks amazing!
Thank you,
Kristen (email@example.com)
- June 27, 2009 at 8:51 AM
- Heather D said...
My father is a commercial fisherman and I was raised on salmon. I've been wanting to try a cedar plank for YEARS. And I'd love to introduce my fishing family to something new. We've been just barbecuing or broiling it forever.
- June 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM
- Unknown said...
Although I'm not a bbq master myself, my Dad is the grill king. His birthday is coming up, and I would love to get him this cedar plank. I know it would sizzle up some tasty new creations.
- June 27, 2009 at 1:44 PM
- Unknown said...
4th of July is my birthday and I already know what I am going to get: fireworks in all America land hehehehe... I just love grill but never make grilled fish before. Would love to try out!
- June 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM
- Melissa said...
Um...I want to win so I can give this recipe a whirl, natch!
- June 27, 2009 at 7:56 PM
- Dragon said...
I love cedar planks for cooking salmon. Great recipe!
- June 27, 2009 at 8:45 PM
- The Leftoverist said...
I have never tried this--why?! Maybe the universe is about to give me a chance :)
- June 27, 2009 at 10:11 PM
- Unknown said...
I always thought the cedar plank was a product of hype but your review has me reconsidering. I am eager to try it especially since I don't enjoy fish so I would use it on chicken or something similar instead.
- June 28, 2009 at 7:23 AM
- Lori Lynn said...
I am a fan of cedar plank cooking, the aromas are awesome. And your recipe sounds great Susan! No need to enter my name in the giveaway, let someone who doesn't have one win!
- June 28, 2009 at 8:05 AM
- Jasmine @ Eat Move Write said...
That salmond looks amazing! I see you live in San Diego as well. Beautiful today. Have a great one!
- June 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Here in Oregon have lots of salmon. I'd love it try it on a cedar plank!
- June 28, 2009 at 7:56 PM
- Abby said...
Brad and I FINALLY bought propane for our first gas grill. That we've had for two years and never used. I know. The horror.
- June 28, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Oh, wow, that cedar plank salmon looks so decadent, Susan. Mine never come out that lovely! I was just reclling the other night that you were one of my first challenge comments, in my second SHF challenge for berries, and you did a wonderful job, hosting. If you recall, I melted all over the place! lol
- June 29, 2009 at 7:12 AM
- Kia said...
I always wanted to try the wood planks on my grill, thank you for the useful information!
- June 29, 2009 at 1:46 PM
- Chez US said...
This looks GREAT. I have wanted to try these planks ... now I will have too!
- July 2, 2009 at 9:51 AM
- Dianne said...
I want to cook more fish this summer and those cedar planks would be a nice place to start!
- July 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM


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Blog: LOS JAICHACKERS (cucumber)
Multimedia art collaborative LOS JAICHACKERS will debut a major performance, Night Shade/Solanaceae, at PAMM's Miami Art Week/Art Basel Miami Beach opening celebration on Thursday, December 5. Leading up to the big event, The Port presents guest blogs by LOS JAICHACKERS with playlists, recipes and articles based on exotic night fruits, a major theme of Night Shade/Solanaceae.
By LOS JAICHACKERS
"A day without alcohol is like an egg without salt"
Luis Buñuel
"Modern people have seen too many chemicals and are ready to go back to eating dirt."
Mark Kurlansky
The only rock you can eat and one of the most fascinating books I have come across, not only is Salt an important piece of historical writing, but it makes you reconsider one of the most basic substances in our society. We have forgotten that since the beginning of civilization up to only about 100 years ago, salt was one of the most sought-after commodities in human history. Mark Kurlansky's Salt: A World History begins with the discovery of salt in China and moves to its use in Egyptian mummification processes to its role in the US as a factor in both the Revolutionary War and Civil War. Roman soldiers were issued a set amount of salt as part of their pay—the origin of the word "salary" and the phrase "worth his salt." Salt provoked and financed wars. Salt taxes secured empires across Europe and Asia and inspired revolution (Gandhi's Salt March in 1930 began the overthrow of British rule in India).
Salt is also a surprising musical instrument that can be played by large audiences—as I saw myself at one of the earliest performances by Eamon's experimental band OJO at Queens Nails, my old artist-run space in San Francisco. OJO performed with 800 pounds of salt haphazardly spilled onto the floor. It was one of the best performances I had ever seen—I still remember the amazing rhythms and sounds 150 people created with only their feet on the salt. According to Eamon the idea came from a trip to Cuba where he saw a carnival in city of Baracoa where all the participants began shuffling along with flip-flops on sand-covered pavement—creating a friction that translated into huge sonic dance party.
Night Shade Playlist (cucumber)
By LOS JAICHACKERS
The music playlist is divided into 3 parts and based on readings in the book: Discovery, Labor and Control. Listen to the playlist by signing up or logging in to Spotify.
Track 1
"Sound and Vision" by Megapuss from the release WWSTO 2: A Tribute to David Bowie
(Besides the recording LOS JAICHACKERS did in Mexico City with a blind cumbia band covering "Rebel, Rebel" this has to be one of the best cover songs of Bowie. It is by Megapuss, a supergroup and includes members from Devendra Banhart, Gregory Rogove (of Priestbird), Fabrizio Moretti (of The Strokes), and Noah Georgeson (member of Devendra's band and his producer)—an amazing track in Spanish!)
Track 2
"From Here To Eternity" by Giorgio Moroder from the release of the same title
(While David Bowie and Brian Eno were recording the seminal song "Heroes" in Berlin in 1977, Eno ran into the recording booth holding a copy of Donna Summer's new record "I Feel Love" yelling that it was the future of music! Giorgio Moroder was the composer and producer on the track and was a huge influence on electronica. The track chosen here showcases his ability to craft a perfect electronic pop song; one listen and you'll understand why Daft Punk consider Moroder a god!
Track 3
"Como Quisiera Decirte" by Murcof featuring Los Angeles Negros from the release La Sangre Iluminada
(Murcof merges contemporary 'holy minimalist' orchestration and melancholic techno to create near devotional music that has been compared to imaginary collaborations between Arvo Pärt and Thomas Brinkmann or Giya Kancheli and the Aphex Twin. Originally from Tijuana, I consider Fernando Corona an incredibly influential musician. His first three solo albums are masterpieces and his recording, The Versailles Sessions, a site-specific commission at Chateau de Versailles in France, is breathtaking. Six compositions prepared for the project are derived entirely from recordings of 17th century baroque instruments mixed with electronics and effects. They must be heard on the vinyl record release—hi fidelity, por favor!)
Track 1
"Break Well" by Mount Kimbie from the release Cold Spring Fault Less Youth
(Cold Spring Fault Less Youth is a haunting yet familiar collection of sounds with beats layered underneath otherworldly samples. Mount Kimbie, said to be responsible for the birth of the term "post-dubstep," is a musical collaboration by Dominic Maker and Kai Campos out of London. They are putting the last nail in dubstep as we speak.)
Track 2
"Formal Dedications" by Prefuse 73 from the release Everything She Touched Turned Ampexian
(Prefuse 73 is the alias of Scott Herren, an experimental hip-hop producer whose material often features MCs buried in the mix who become more a part of the sonic texture than a focal point. Herren has collaborated with rappers Ghostface Killah and Aesop Rock, and the band Blonde Redhead. This jazzy track contains a mosaic of rhythmic snippets with melodic scribbles and textural layering; a blend that is continuous action and loops and yields an unending concentration of pure magic.)
Track 3
"Automation" by Boom Bip from the release Zing Zag
("Automation" is a very cool textural track heavily influenced by rock and '80s new wave created by one of most interesting underground beat producers, Boom Bip. His abstracted sound project made in collaboration with Gruff Rhys of Super Furry Animals lead to the fascinating Neon Neon project. Inspired by the automaker John DeLorean, this project was a sonic venture focused on what his car, the delorean, (and charisma) meant to the '80s.)
Track 1
"Tired" by Chikita Violeta from the release TRE3S
(Currently my favorite Mexican indie rock band, Chikita Violenta mixes great lyrics with layers and layers of swirling guitars ala Sonic Youth and melodic low fi rhythms, harmonizing noises and hi-energy singing. This is my favorite track from the album.)
Track 2
"Politico" by Mexican Institute of Sound from the release of the same title
(The Mexican Institute of Sound is the project name of DJ and producer Camilo Lara. He is one of the most important music personalities in Mexico; he co-founded the seminal indie label Suave Records in the early 2000s, worked for Warner Bros signing huge bands, and went on to be the vice president at EMI Records. Lara began working on his own project, Mexican Institute of Sound's debut album, Méjico Máxico (Magic Mexico), in 2006. It was an infectious mix of vintage Mexican pop and dance records from the '20s through the '60s. With all his success, Lara quit his day job and is now focused on his own music. In 2012, he issued a new album, Politico, under the MIS banner. Rather than his usual sample-heavy sampling, it was his first recording of all-original songs played by a live band. He was inspired to write the album after authorities discovered a large cache of the explosive C4 next door to his home, ready to be detonated.)
Track 3
"Concierto para Bongó" from the release of the same title by Perez Prado
(Recorded in 1966, this is one of the best records to come out of Latin America—a fresh hybrid mix of mambo music with Go-Go and psychodelia, and it includes an amazing 16 minute drum solo! Perez Prado is one of LOS JAICHACKERS biggest influences. One of our interests in Perez Prado was that he was the first Latin American artist to "cross-over" internationally with a musical style of his own: The Mambo. In 1949, Perez Prado moved from Havana to Mexico City, where he was known as "El Rey del Mambo." The mambo is based on what is now known as "cut and paste" music. Long before samplers, turntables and computer technology, Perez Prado was experimenting with ideas of the remix, combining Afro-Cuban rhythms with American swing music and ambient urban sounds. All of this is documented in the 1950 film Del Son al Mambo, where he is seen sampling sounds of the city, foreshadowing what was to become the analog sequencer. These samples were then translated into various instrumentations by his orquestra.)
Night Shade Recipe (cucumber)
Caesar's Salad (original Tijuana recipe)
By LOS JAICHACKERS
For this months' feature I threw in a little curve and wrote on a book about the history of salt, even though the main focus is cucumber. In Latin America, we enjoy the cucumber's are slightly sweeter cousin, which we call pepino. Pepinos are amazing chilled, peeled and with a dash of chili, lime and salt! This month I had many guests from Mexico and mind you, I live in the desert, so one of the recurring, refreshing dishes I serve is the original Caesar's salad. It is from my hometown of Tijuana—trust me, it really IS! Here is some background…
The Golden Age of tourism in Tijuana came during prohibition in 1928, when thirsty Americans would make their way across the border to drink immense amounts of alcohol, which was produced in Mexico not just for local consumption, but also to be smuggled into the United States. At its peak, Agua Caliente in Tijuana was one of the best and most famous casino resort complexes of its kind in the world. Aristocrats, Hollywood stars, and gangsters were among the main clientele of Agua Caliente, especially attracted by gambling. It was also common for European nobility to visit the resort and its popularity among stars only increased its appeal to other tourists. Clark Gable, Charlie Chaplin, Bing Crosby, Greta Garbo, W.C. Fields, Julia Child (as a child), Jean Harlow, Laurel and Hardly and Al Capone were just a few of the famous names to have visited Tijuana during this time.
It was this period in Tijuana that gave birth to the cultural phenomenon that is now known as the Caesar Salad. The salad was served at a 16-room luxury hotel, Hotel Caesar's Place, named after its owner Cesare Cardini, who emigrated from Italy to Tijuana after World War I. The salad quickly became popular, but in the early days, it didn't even have a name. People simply said, "I'll have that salad." It was eventually named after Cardini's hotel—Caesar's salad. My grandfather, Daniel Dueñas, who was among the first peple to immigrate to Tijuana, was friends with the chef at the hotel. The chef gave my grandfather the original recipe that he had scratched on to a napkin, and my grandfather passed it on to me. I experimented with the ingredients for a couple of years 'til it tasted just like my grandfather described.
- 4 anchovy filets, or to taste
- 2 cloves of garlic
- 2 tablespoons of green olives, pitted and finely sliced
- 2 tablespoons of artichoke hearts, finely sliced
- 5 teaspoons of fresh lime juice
- 3 teaspoons of cucumber juice
- 1 tablespoon of Worcestershire sauce
- Pinch of salt
- 1/4 teaspoon of fresh ground black pepper
- 3 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil
- 1 egg
- 3 slices of Mexican bread (baguette)
- 1/4 cup of grated Parmesan cheese
- 8 ounces of romaine lettuce
- To make croutons, brush the bread slices on one side with olive oil, place on a baking sheet and bake at 350 degrees until they just begin to brown. Allow the toasted bread to cool, and then cut into 1-inch squares. (Please note: you must leave the bread out overnight before using.)
- In a molcajete or mortar and pestle, mash together the garlic and anchovies; transfer to a large bowl and add the lime and cucumber juice.
- Whisk in the olives and artichoke hearts, and then the Worcestershire, salt and pepper. Lastly add the olive oil, a small amount at a time.
- Place the egg in a small bowl or saucepan and cover it with boiling water. After 1 minute, remove the egg and transfer it to a dish of cold water. Once the egg has cooled, break it into the salad bowl and whisk it into the mixture.
- Add the lettuce, Parmesan cheese and croutons. Toss and serve immediately.


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One of the projects was to make a roughly 4" tall ring-holder out of clay.
Without further comment, I'm now posting front & side views of the ring-holder my son made with the Boy Scouts.
A Blog detailing the insanity of my medical practice and the stupidity of everyday life.
I guess it's artisanal...
I'm still smiling about this. ;)
Perhaps he should start his own Esty shop...I predict he could make a forture.
So cock-a-doodle-do to you too :)
anybody else reminded of the Plaster Casters?
Rock On!
OMG he got the slit at the tip too.
And God created man out of clay. In his own image. *snicker*
Reminds me of that article I sent you about artisinal dildos...
I'm impressed by his WOODwork
Double A or triple ?
I think I will post as anonymous in this instance.
I've seen these shaped more finger-like, with finger nails and joints, so folks don't jump to the wrong conclusions about your recreational passtimes.
He needs help ? Cocky fella, ain't he ?
A genius is born. Is Mrs Grumpy thrilled? Most important, did he get the badge???
OMG! It's Penis de Milo!
Yes, he earned the badge.
Oh shoot -- I laughed out loud at this! And sadly, I'm blogsurfing at work which means that I really shouldn't be...
Oops :)
I'm not even sure what a "ring holder" is. At least I can't come up with a non-mucky idea for what it is.
Future Urologist. Dr. Pissy Grumpy?
They *do* make rings for it ....
It could perform double duty in an emergency I suppose....
well I'm sure Mrs. Grumpy appreciated the gesture...and she might appreciate it more when you're at a conference
That is simply the BEST!!
Super! That reminds me of... A couple of years ago a preschool teacher in Russia got the bright idea to have the kids make cannons out of clay as presents for their dads on the equivalent of Fathers' Day. You can see the results here: http://weber.homegate.ru/photo/35642
Who has so many rings that they need it on a ring holder that long?
LMAO @ "Penis de Milo"!!!
Uh... what kind of rings did they want this holder to hold?
Oooooooookay. That little apple didn't fall far from the tree now, did it? Hahahaha!!!
Are you going to use it?
Stools, bird houses, tent stakes, fishing floats, cooking fire supports, bulletin boards, figure-four drop traps, cutting boards, sharpening-stone holders, walking sticks, fishing gigs, fire starting kits, clay pots.
But, oh no, not ring holders.
What has happened to the Boy Scouts?
Can't wait to see the artisan ring holder on display in the grumpy house. My mom packed these things up to come out on embarassing moments citing that they were to special to use. You could try that excuse too.
sly sense of humor, that craig. beware
I literally laughed out loud at this! Thanks for making my day!
I'm sure this is how Rabbi Loew of Prague got his start too.
Lost a lungful of artisanal, i mean medicinal, cannabis vapor when I saw that "ring" holder. Worth it-for sure.
Do you think it ummmmm came naturally to him?
Putting the 'anal' into Artisanal.
In our den they had the boys make the same thing, only with a suction cup on the bottom.
Truth be told it's less creepy than the disembodied hands made of bone china that I saw at the antique store the other day.
Also, I hang my rings off the horn of a cow knick knack.
It's not like this is a high brow area of knick knackery.
Just in time for Mother's Day.
Life-size, no doubt. But who provided the prototype?
Ha! It's all in the eye of the beholder...
And reminds me of this. Kids...
Fantastic! Thanks for the good belly laugh :)
I wonder what Freud would have to say about this one. ;-) Thanks for the laugh today... and you can thank Craig for your daily blog fodder.
So, is he going to paint it? If so, what color?
I am glad he earned the badge! Err
is it what I think it looks like?
Great job! BETTER KEEP AN EYE ON THAT ONE!! This is a warning of things to come.
Wait, what kind of rings were hey talking about.....
Of course you are going to show it off on the mantle. In a prominent place. Aren't you? >:->
This made me giggle. And think about the BSA's homophobia.
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