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KDE 4.1.4 and 4.2 Release Candidate Available Now
The KDE community has made available two new releases of the KDE desktop and applications today. KDE 4.1.4 is the latest update for the KDE 4.1 series. It contains many bugfixes, mainly in the e-mail and PIM suite Kontact and the document viewer Okular. KDE 4.2 RC is the release candidate of KDE 4.2, also bringing new features and thousands of bug fixes to the KDE desktop and applications. KDE 4.1.4 is the last planned update to the KDE 4.1 series and stabilises the 4.1 platform further. It is a recommended update for everyone running KDE 4.1.3 or earlier.
KDE 4.2.0 will be released on January 27th and is considered a significant improvement over the KDE 4.1 series. The beta announcements have all the details. Enjoy our releases, and don't have your head explode when choosing which version to upgrade to.
KDE 4.2 is my home now, and I'm not planning to look back. Thank you!
By Ernesto Manríquez at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
suse repos
drat! no suse packages yet...
The suse repos are usually so punctual. I'm surprised packages aren't in yet. I thought tagging was done early so that packages would be ready when released.
By txf at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
check KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories, I guess they are in there.
By Burke at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
Yeah, we screwed Beineri on that one, unfortunately. We wanted to put out -rc rather quickly to give it more time for testing. (Some days ago meantime, we said we'd put it on the shelf until Thursday, but it was just easier to put it up quickly.)
Work on OpenSuse packages is under way though, as I've heard.
Re: suse repos
Two reasons:
- Despite the planning on the release-team list for the last week to have the 4.1.4 and 4.2rc1 releases NOT coincide but have 4.2rc on Thursday, the release was suddenly on Tuesday evening pushed forward two days to Tuesday night (and final 4.2rc1 release tarballs were available on Tuesday only too).
- The Build Service started to suffer heavily from its own success yesterday: the schedule server is regularly running out of memory ("only" 8GB RAM available atm to calculate $WORLD's dependencies) and is starting new build jobs only very delayed. This could not be fixed on Tuesday anymore.
By binner at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
Well, I'm grateful for all the work the OpenSUSE team does, so waiting means nothing.
By R. J. at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
Yes, indeed! And the build service is so very, very useful in itself, too.
By Boudewijn Rempt at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
will there be a supported or semi-supported way to use 4.2 on opensuse 11.1 installation ?
By richlv at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
[email protected] and #opensuse-kde on FreeNode give you as much real support as the KDE 4.1.4 packages released with 11.1 have.
Since we're continually developing the next version of openSUSE, it makes sense to get people using our packages of the newest releases of KDE so they get bugtested early.
By Will Stephenson at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
Although I really like the fact that the openSUSE guys have provided KDE 4.2 in the repos, I've got just one single request:
Please, please, pleasssse provide KDE with it's default theming. KDE 4.2 does look so much better with default Oxygen than the current Aya theme.
I can imagine openSUSE would want to brand the desktop. That's not a problem. I can live with the lizard as the menu button, but the Aya theme is just plain ugly.
Regards Harry
By harry at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
I agree, and the same goes for Mandriva, although their theme looks a little bit better than the openSUSE one.
I wouldn't mind using Oxygen with some green-ish tints to it or something, but the default openSUSE/Mandriva is downright ugly compared to default KDE.
By unbob at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
I agree...Anyway I have to add that aya improved a lot in kde 4.2...it's really better to my eyes...in opensuse 11.1 I'm a little embarassed to show the default installation of kde4.1 because it's really ugly. :)
By Giovanni Masucci at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
Last time I checked, Oxygen doesn't recognize the system's color settings though. It would be nice to have a well designed theme that looked sharp, and yet also respected system color settings.
By T. J. Brumfield at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
A default theme must either obey system color settings or the user should be able to change its colors. A theme with fixed colors that cannot be changed shouldn't be the default because users will be pissed off (they could be changed even in Windows 95 after all). OTOH it may be cool as optional.
I don't think Aya is ugly (or uglier than KDE 3 or classic Windows or default GNOME), it is just not "cool" but more "traditional". And in KDE the consistency and configurability should be prefered over eye-candy, although unfortunately we can see the opposite in some places in KDE 4.
By Grósz Dániel at Sun, 2009/01/18 - 6:00am
Re: suse repos
Packages for 11.0 and 11.1 are meanwhile available.
By binner at Thu, 2009/01/15 - 6:00am
Kubuntu Jaunty Packages
The Kubuntu Jaunty packages are being built as we speak.
Hopefully they will be done in a few hours. I'm on beta2 and am quite excited for the RC.
By Andrew Stromme at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Kubuntu Jaunty Packages
I think the only ones we are waiting on now are the amd64 packages. (The amd64 servers are being a bit slow today...)
By Jonathan Thomas at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Kubuntu Jaunty Packages
This worries me a lot:
I have 30+ kde 4.2 packages being marked to remove because they all depend on kdebase-runtime which still isn't bumped to 4.1.96. And both amd64 machines are idle?
By Martin at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Kubuntu Jaunty Packages
thanks to anyone making this happen ( :
By Jay Remaly at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Kubuntu Jaunty Packages
There's a conflict between kscreensaver-xsaver and kscreensaver-xsaver-extras that prevent one of them to be installed (a file belonging to both packages), other than that installed and working fine :)
By NabLa at Thu, 2009/01/15 - 6:00am
Re: Kubuntu Jaunty Packages
Sorry, I forgot to mention, this is on 8.10 packages.
By NabLa at Thu, 2009/01/15 - 6:00am
KDE 4.2 Rocks!
The KDE 4.2 will be the state what persons who are not familiar with computers can use as desktop.
There is great new features and most important thing... more features ;-)
I currently have a 4.1.96 version (>Beta2 4.2... It will rock more.
If Aaron Seigo saw this in his dreams when the muse was bringing the Plasma idea to his brains... and the community could share that idea and actually make it happend (and build it even better ;-) ) It was very badly explained to normal users what to wait ;-)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
> unique wallpaper for every virtual desktop
You can get that by putting a line perVirtualDesktopViews=true in your plasmarc. It's an experimental feature we've implemented that doesn't have a configuration UI yet.
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
To what location it should be placed? To first [Containments][101] or just end of file? I really would like to test this ;-)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
You seem to be looking at plasma-appletsrc, while it's in plasmarc.
Try the [PlasmaViews] group. (I didn't use this yet, so I'm relying on 3rd party information here ;-)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
kdebase/workspace/plasma/shells/desktop/kcfg/plasma-shell-desktop.kcfg implies that it's the [General] group. (Create it if it doesn't exist.) Unfortunately, the only effect that I can see is that the background image is now indeed no longer shared by the desktops. The other desktops, however, are empty and I didn't yet find a way to add other backgrounds there.
This is the last major reason why I hadn't yet switched to KDE4. (Well, and the fact that I don't know yet if I can use konsole in a sane way -- full size without decoration, but not in "fullscreen" mode. I still want to be able to use the autohide panel and switch desktops while I'm working with it.)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
"Well, and the fact that I don't know yet if I can use konsole in a sane way -- full size without decoration, but not in "fullscreen" mode."
You can. I maximised the konsole window, disabled the border via Alt+F3 and then set konsole never show tab-bar. Then I enabled the auto-hide to panel and I got "fullscreen" konsole with panel coming top of it when moving mouse bottom of screen etc... needed to made a profile for it ;-)
It is nice to get the TTY feeling when having all great functions from konsole.. and KWin effects ;-)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
Ahh, thanks. I had used a different method in KDE3 with dcop commands, so that I only had to type "fs" in a konsole window and it would do the necessary stuff. Under KDE4 dbus seems rather limited: I could figure out how to maximize the window (qdbus org.kde.konsole-$pid /konsole/MainWindow_1 com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.showMaximized), but not how to remove/restore the decoration. Of course, doing it by hand is better than nothing.
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
Mayby you could do it totally automatic.
Set Konsole profile the tabs etc and then set the profile to have own unique name on it what the window is called. Then make the KWin profile for that unique name what you gave to profile. Store both profiles and add a konsole profile-manager plasmoid to desktop what launch the wanted "fullscreen" profile, what gets set as correctly with KWin ;-)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
I had tried that, but this works only on newly created windows, which isn't enough. I'd really prefer a complete set of DBUS commands for KWin. One can't do much with what's available now.
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
File a wishlist, giving a complete list of those you require and the affect they should have.
By anon at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
Err ... KWin operations have a defined effect, so there's not much to describe. But meanwhile I've added the missing DBus methods myself. So for me it's just one script command in a konsole, and it goes full-size without decoration and menubar, or back to normal. /me happy now. :-) (Yeah, I'll submit it.)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
Speaking of being proactive :)
By NabLa at Fri, 2009/01/16 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
about plasmarc -> [General] -> perVirtualDesktopViews=true
I also had to adjust the respective [containment]s manually, setting desktop and screen to subsequent numbers, and added [Containments][*][Wallpaper][image] entries (the latter of which was probably not necessary). Now it works! :-)
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
> unique wallpaper for every virtual desktop
You can get that by putting a line perVirtualDesktopViews=true in your plasmarc. It's an experimental feature we've implemented that doesn't have a configuration UI yet.
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
that's REALLY nice. :)
By WOW, that's REA... at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
"but I am already looking forward to 4.3'
yeah, so am i =P
"If Aaron Seigo saw this in his dreams when the muse was bringing the Plasma idea to his brains..."
honestly, we're about half way there. there are a few more fundamental pieces missing, but we're getting there at tremendous speed.
the ability to send widgets across the network between machines, timelining, social networking, a design studio and a few other bits and knobbles ... nothing a few more lines of code can't cure ;)
" and the community could share that idea and actually make it happend (and build it even better ;-) )"
that's been the joy of plasma: other people have happened along, looked at it, "got" it and then dove in and made it better than i ever could have alone. our community is beyond great.
By Aaron Seigo at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 4.2 Rocks!
So this would be possible http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/record-plasmoid?content=97428 for someone to make right now or does it has features what still is missing on current plasma?
I heard on #kde someone saying (actually readed, because IRC does not transmit the sound... yet) that Phonon layer only support playback but not recording.
I have trying to find nice and esay application to allow user to do video journal with their laptops (webcam is almost 100% integrated top of the screen) or sound journals. Because I did not find one good application for that, I tought what if someone with skills could do that as plasmoid if plasma just would support it. So, there it is hanging waiting someone.
The Plasma idea is still "missing" from some people but soon when they understand that plasma is not just the widgets and plasmoids... it is the desktop itself. They will got it. For me it looks that KDE4 really is braking the old habits of desktop usage.
Bug in folderview?
Please could someone, especially with an intel graphic card, test this?
Re: Bug in folderview?
I've test this on my dell inspiron latop with intel graphic card, effects enabled. When I move icons selected with rubberband... it's a bit slow but it works. xorg & plasma 14% cpu.
By RG at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Bug in folderview?
that's probably because inspiron has a better cpu than my netbook atom.
Re: Bug in folderview?
My Printer( brother HL 2150N ) no print ebooks :(. In Kde beta 2, it does.
By Anonimous at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Fast, faster, RC !!!
WOW! The RC is incredibly fast now! Thank you very much, thats great! It all works fine now!
By SONA at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Is it so good?
In my previous dot comments I wrote about bugs, missing features,
Look at the attached screenshot, in hardware kcm in systemsettings, it shows only a few lines of information and there are so many empty space that content doesn't fit in, so vertical
Still not there...
By vf at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Is it so good?
4.2 is awesome!
btw.. I also hate the empty space around menubar and another problem is the column width! A lot of programs doesn't have a useful column width (e.g. akregator) IMHO a no go.
By Dude at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Is it so good?
Yes, since Oxygen was released I complain about that, and this is the reason why I use KDE 3 on my Asus eeePC 701 :-(
By Iuri Fiedoruk at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Is it so good?
I actually find KDE 4.2 quite usable on my Eee PC 900.
By Luca Beltrame at Wed, 2009/01/14 - 6:00am
Re: Is it so good?
Imagine then how much more usable would it be if they would remove all that dead space and unneeded scrollbars. It would be as if you had 1-2 inches bigger screen. Or don't imagine, try something else and see how much more content fits in the screen.
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Floating Village - Vietnam
In most photography, the air is transparent and takes no great part in how we see things. In Hoflehner, the air always has a density of its own, and we must strain to part it with our eyes. It's not just that he particularly likes effects of condensation or of twilight, but more that he expects us to see as slowly as he does. He once made a series of studies of windsocks, those flappy orange cones on airfields which indicate wind strength and speed. To most of us, they are mildly recognisable objects which we see when we fly and then forget. Hoflehner made whole essays out of them.
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They became man-made structures in an apparently natural environment, they became visible manifestations of invisible weather, they were to some extent economic indicators, they were hard lines and soft all in the same trivial objects. This is his manner: to look for something to think about as well as something to see. We can be sure that the reason he invites us to see the finished selection is because he has found something, even perhaps something not very important, in every single view.
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I was at dinner with friends recently where they served a delightful mesclun salad with fresh strawberries and parmesan cheese. Well, I thought it was delightful; my dinner companions disagreed.
As we were discussing benign topics such as the recent "humidity" we have been experiencing here in San Diego (laughable compared to the rest of the country this summer), I pointed out to one of my friends that she hadn't eaten any of her strawberries. "Don't you like strawberries?" I asked her. "Oh yes, I love strawberries," she replied, "but not on salad."
What was it she didn't like? Were the berries too sweet? Was it the mixing of vinegar and fruit? Her response: "I just don't like fruit on salad."
This sparked a surprisingly intense discussion. I can understand how some people hate cilantro because it tastes like soap to them, but strawberries or apple slices? One friend called diced melon on salad "just wrong," while another declared, "strawberries belong on cereal not on salad."
I was truly surprised by their passionate responses. Do you like fruit on your salad? And if you don't, then help me understand why.
Here are two fruity salads that I just adore. (Anti-fruit&salad people might want to avert their eyes). My Watermelon and Green Olive Salad is adapted from a June 2006 recipe in Food and Wine. It's sweet and salty and savory all at once, plus it's a pleasing blend of smooth and crunchy textures. I added the cooked shallots for their rich, caramelized flavor and seasoned it with lots of fresh parsley.
Watermelon and Green Olive Salad
Makes 4 servings
Print recipe only here.
1 shallot, thinly sliced
½ tsp sugar
6-8 cups mesclun, preferably with some arugula and radicchio mixed in
½-1 cup watermelon chunks
5-6 cured green olives, such as Cerignola or green Greek
1 Tbsp extra-virgin olive oil
2 Tbsp white wine vinegar
1 Tbsp watermelon juice
Salt and pepper, to taste
2 tsp fresh parsley, chopped
Heat 1 tsp olive oil in a small skillet over medium-low heat; add shallots and cooked until slightly caramelized about 5-7 minutes.
Whisk 1 Tbsp olive oil, vinegar, and watermelon juice until blended. Season with salt and pepper.
Add mesclun to plates, top with watermelon chunks, olive slices, and fresh parsley. Drizzle with dressing and enjoy!
I posted this Arugula, Strawberry, and Sugar Snap Pea Salad on Fit Fare back in June and had to post it here because it's just too scrumptious not to share. I love the interplay between the sweet strawberries and peppery arugula which are complemented with a zippy, lemon-balsamic dressing. The fresh basil and mint really make this salad shine, so make sure you don't skimp!
Arugula, Strawberry, and Sugar Snap Pea Salad
Makes 4 servings
Print recipe only here.
6-8 cups arugula
1 cup sliced strawberries
1-1 ½ cup sugar snap peas
1 Tbsp extra-virgin olive oil
1 Tbsp white balsamic vinegar
1 Tbsp fresh lemon juice
Pinch of grated lemon zest
½ Tbsp water
Salt and pepper, to taste
A handful of thinly sliced fresh basil
A handful of fresh torn mint leaves
For dressing, whisk all of the ingredients in a small bowl.
The sugar snap peas can be eaten raw or cooked. To cook, simply drop in boiling water for 2 minutes; drain and plunge into a bowl of ice water. This will stop the cooking process and preserve the peas' bright green color.
To prepare the salad, divide the arugula, strawberries, and sugar snap peas evenly among four plates. Add dressing; top with fresh basil and mint.
Since these salads are loaded with health-promoting antioxidants (especially lycopene in watermelon and strawberries), I'm submitting this post to Cate of Sweetnicks for her ARF 5-a-day Tuesday.
Here are a few more fruity salads I came across recently. If these bloggers like fruit in their salad, then I know I'm in good company.
Terry's Arugula Salad with Peaches and Goat Cheese
Jeanne's Roasted Nectarines in Prosciutto
Alanna's Melon, Blueberry, and Feta Salad and Watermelon, Cucumber, and Feta Salad
Laura's Spiced Orange and Avocado Salad
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Klik is a system which creates self-contained packages of programmes installable over the web with a single click. In the article below Kurt Pfeifle discusses the potential uses of this technology for helping the non-coding contributors to KDE. He also looks at how the system works and the obvious security issues involved.
And why would this be relevant or useful?
One can dream, no?
At aKademy I discussed this question with various people. By now everyone in the KDE community is aware of one of my proposed solutions (or that's what I like to think): use a NX or FreeNX driven KDE Application Server, and provide remote access to the programs in question.
However you are wrong if you imagine that my only occupation is NX. I have another, complementing proposal about how to tackle this same problem. One that is an especially nice fit in cases where testers and users do not have network connections.
One that works for Live CD distributions (Knoppix, Kanotix) as well as for Debian, Linspire, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and openSUSE/SUSE Linux 10.0. (No, it's really got nothing to do with NX. Nor with FreeNX. Other than the fact that Fabian, the main developer of FreeNX, has also been a contributor to this klik thingie...)
Take note! It's not a dream. It is reality. It is reality for Linux. It is reality for KDE. It is called klik.
It works on most Debian systems, and on Knoppix (torrent) and Kanotix (torrent) Live CDs.openSUSE/SUSE-10.0 is has recently been added to the list too. Here's how you can test it:
You could also just type klik://xvier into the Konqueror address field. I actually do recommend to you to start with xvier: it is a simple game that fits into a less than 400 kByte download, so you can have a quick success with klik and see what potential it has...
Neat, isn't it?
klik has been developed by Simon Peter (a.k.a. "probono" in IRC), with the support of Niall Walsh ("bfree"), Jörg Schirottke ("Kano") and FreeNX's Fabian Franz ("fabianx"). You can meet them in the IRC channel #klik on Freenode.
If you are bit security concerned, you may want to know what klik does to your system. Here's the pitch:
It's very much similar to how applications on Mac OS X works....
If you are even more cautious, or paranoid, you surely want to investigate more closely and see how klik operates on your system. Follow these steps to find out more details:
klik's smartness is all contained in a few shell scripts and typical KDE config files, as you can easily see...
For most of the 4000+ packages available from the klik warehouse, the "download" consists of a "recipe". The recipe tells the klik client where to fetch the binaries from (in most cases .deb packages from the official Debian repositories), how to unpack them, and how to re-package and compress them into the final .cmg image. So the klik client does most of the work and builds its own .cmg file in most cases.
If you want to look at one such recipe, here is the klik recipe for Scribus.
There are other packages which have been built on the server (and hand-tuned and tested) so that they work with non-Debian distros too ("serverside apt"). In this case the klik://some-app link will fetch the ready-made .cmg from the URL the klik server names in his recipe. The special "klik apps for SUSE 10.0" repository is filling up by the day. Warning: currently this will only work for openSUSE/SUSE Linux 10.0, not for other Distros!
You may be interested in trying the following links, if you have more bandwidth (note: they'll not work for you unless you install the klik client). They work on openSUSE/SUSE-Linux 10 RC1 very well, and also support Knoppix, Kanotix, Debian, Linspire and Kubuntu (other distros are untested):
I found the ooo2 bundle (representing the OpenOffice.org 2 beta release, build 125 by Novell) on par (or even better) in speed and responsiveness as the "real" RPM package that I installed from the RC1 iso images for SUSE Linux 10.0.
If you are a type of person who likes to startup apps from the commandline, use the klik commandline client like this:
This will prepare the .cmg AppDir bundle and run it once ready. Once .cmg file is on your system, the commandline to run it (without a repeated download) is this:
I have already browsed the web with Alpha version 1.6a1 of Firefox to see if the hype around it is justified. To do so, I tried the old-fashioned manual installation of the klik-ified Firefox:
I am pretty sure, that at least some of our beloved KDE-PIM hackers will like this new way to take a quick look at their valued competition, without needing to install it:
Now, developers, what do you think of a tool that lets you easily create binary snapshots of your own development versions in the form of those nifty "Don't Install, Just Copy!"- .cmg files? -- Which of you will be the first five to step forward and receive the service of getting their SVN weekly builds packaged as .cmg AppDir bundles, for the next 3 months?
I know Boudewijn has been struggling in the past to provide Krita snapshots to a dozen beta testers and non-technical contributors, and to help them compile the code, or to support them installing binaries he had built.
I also know that I definitely would love to get quick access to kpdf, KWord, amaroK, Quanta and Kommander snapshots which I can run on my stable system with the reassuring feeling that the most that can go wrong is that the test app doesnt run at all, and all I had to do is just delete it again, to have my system reverted to its original state.
What about our friends from OpenUsability.org? Would they appreciate such a service too? Have they ever looked at the added value klik:// can offer to our common development workflow?
Wow. It looks like a really neat idea. It could use a little polishing, for example having multiple sites to look for the download for an app. That way if one is down there wont be any problems with downloading as it will just use another one. Great job.
Take that, linspire....
By Mark Watson at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Wow...
Perhaps instead of multiple sites, now is the time to move to an easy torrent set-up for doing this kind of klik installer. have a script (or a set of scripts) that builds the klik, the torrent, and an rss. Likewise, it should also handle the update issue. Perhaps, when you load the klik on your system, an rss url is included that can be loaded into a local update app to track the what and where. That way, if an update does occur your system finds out about it.
By a.c. at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Wow...
Do you _really_ want to run software from random torrent peers?
By paranoid user at Sat, 2005/09/17 - 5:00am
Re: Wow...
This shouldn't matter, as long as the source of the .torrent file is trustworthy. In theory at least. But IIRC bittorrent uses md4 (not md5 or sha1) checksums, so maybe it's really not as tamper-proof as it could be.
By uddw at Sat, 2005/09/17 - 5:00am
Re: Wow...
why are you addressing Linspire there?
By Fab at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Wow...
yeah, there is no reason why it won't work in linspire... on the other hand, linspire has one-click, too - so i guess that is what he wanted to say :D
That is über-coolishness!
This is brilliant!
Reading the article first, I thought it was an April Fool's joke gone late. But then I tried it with the klik://ooo2 link -- and boy!, was I suprised. (Really nice splash screen made by the Novell artists, BTW.) This thingie runs wonderfully. I'm still wondering how they did it (not really understanding Kurt's explanations about what makes klik tick...).
By ac at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
How would this work with libs? are they compiled into the cmg-file so there wont be any dependencies?
By Adam Tulinius at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Libs?
Yes, the cmg will include required libraries. What is required in the cmg is determined by assuming all target systems will have a certain base set of packages. Anything required beyond those base packages (or which requires a newer version then can safely be assumed to exist) is included within the cmg making it quite self contained. The klik server is aware of the full installed package set for many of it's supported distributions and can provide quite small (but less portable) packages for them using "serverside-apt". For unknown distributions the server defaults to assuming that the target system will have a "lowest common denominator" of packages provided by the supported distributions (including debian sarge), e.g. the cmg will only assume the target system has the packages installed which are in all supported distros, and only at the lowest version in any supported distro.
By Niall Walsh at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Libs?
To complement it, you can find more information on klik's architecture here:
By Christian Loose at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Easy enough from my Grandma!
1 yr. ago I taught my 71 aged Grandma how to use Kanotix + email/KMail + webbrowsing/Konqueror. She really enjoyed it.
3 months ago she phoned my and complained: Why hadn't I told her about that easy one-click installation method of new software?!
I didnt get what she wanted to explain to me. She got angry and hang up, when I told her this was impossible...
Last month we went to visit her. She showed me how to do it. You can imagine that my jaws dropped 10+ inches. I must have displayed the most stupid face I ever made in my life.
So, yes -- klik rulez! And it was introduced to my not by this nice article, but by my beloved Grandma...
By Gary Silverman at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Easy enough from my Grandma!
excellent points
In fact, the aoutopackage folks, for this very reason of package consistency and maintainability, only recommend autopackage for certain, almost self contained packages (think firefox, open-office, games)
By MandrakeUser at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Easy enough from my Grandma!
sorry, I meant to post this in liquidat's thread below
By MandrakeUser at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Easy enough from my Grandma!
Does your Grandma read the Dot to?
By Mark Watson at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Easy enough from my Grandma!
guess so :D
Would it be difficult to get this working on slackware ?
This could really be interesting, instant beta testing. No need to explain people how to get the svn version of KTorrent, just klik and try it.
Btw, You have the knoppix and kanotix torrents mixed up.
By Joris Guisson at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Cool
### "difficult to get this working on slackware ?"
No. Not at all.
Are you volunteering?
### "knoppix and kanotix torrents mixed up."
Rats! (I'll try to see if a dot editor can fix that. Thanks for the hint.)
By Kurt Pfeifle at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Cool
"knoppix and kanotix torrents mixed up" are fixed now.
By ac at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Cool
To busy with KTorrent and I start to work next week, so not enough time.
By Joris Guisson at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Cool
Have you already tried klik://ktorrent ? ;-)
By probono at Sat, 2005/09/17 - 5:00am
Re: Cool
on my slackware it works pretty well:
By mart at Sat, 2005/09/17 - 5:00am
Sounds nice, but after reading the faq, http://klik.atekon.de/docs/?page=FAQ, there are still some questions open:
- Is there an update system integrated? If I can install >20 packages I am not able to look after updates, especially if I am a normal user!
By Roland Wolters at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
### "Is there an update system integrated?"
No. You'll have to look yourself for updates.
However, some of the latest packages include version numbers in their names. So it would be easy to "install" (it is just copy, really) the "krita-1.4.88.cmg" side by side with "krita-1.4.0.cmg" and "krita-2005.17.09.cmg" and even run all 3 in parallel.
### "If I can install >20 packages I am not able to look after updates, especially if I am a normal user!"
May be true.
However, my own idea about klik is to use it primarily as a very efficient tool to help experienced users to testdrive development versions of KDE packages without them needing to compile themselvs, and without the distro packages needing to provide weekly snapshot RPMs and .debs (which they don't do, anyways).
Let's see how the idea is accepted. If it gets enough support, someone may even think of hacking the Makefiles so that there is a "make cmg" target available for everyone who compiles KDE apps on his own host.
### " What is, if the installed version replaces an old, system wide installation?"
A klik .cmg file never replaces an installed old, system wide software. It is there as an alternative.
You can run the system wide installed app side by side with the klik version. (The only conflict you may need to watch out for is that both may write into the same $HOME/.yourapp and $KDEHOME/somewhere files and directories with conflicting content...
### "Which version will be used?"
klik may have put its apps into your K menu. But even there it does not replace the installed app's entry. To the system, it looks like a separate app.
By Kurt Pfeifle at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
Great article and great tool, thx. I'm kliking ooo2 ;-).
But I think the problem with applications writing to the same config files could become a real problem for some persons.
Anyway, great tool, but how do I uninstall it?
By Mario Fux at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
### "great tool, but how do I uninstall it?"
Why should you ever want to uninstall it in the first place? ;-P
Seriously: to get rid of everything klik installed (including possible K menu entries), running these commands should accomplish it:
rm $HOME/{.klik,.zAppRun} \
rm -rf /tmp/{app,klik}
Last, edit /etc/fstab to remove the /tmp/app/{1,2,3,4,5,6,7} mountpoints.
By Kurt Pfeifle at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
> ### "Is there an update system integrated?"
Would it be possible to integrate this system with the GetHotNewStuff system? If I remember correctly, that is set up to allow for a central server that shows versions of files and everything so that the end user can see, in a list, what is already installed on their system, what is installed on their system and could be updated, and what is not installed on their system at all.
Of course, I haven't particularly used GHNS of Klik, so I wouldn't have any idea what I'm talking about, but I much prefer the idea of Klik if it makes not only installing, but also updating as easy as clicking a button. Also, I'm always a fan of reusing technologies, so...
By jameth at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
I think it's a good idea, and i've used both :D
yeah, i think it should work. maybe this is the solution to the problem of c++ applets/plasmoids... and to the problem of installing kde applications. I think, and some others do so to, kde itself should be smaller, and the additional applications should be installable easilly. if possible with an KDE interface.
Re: Autopackage?
The update system is to klik/install the latest version of any application you want.
You run the program from the cmg normally by clicking on it, typing the command name at the command line will use the normal system installed version. Your system is uneffected, only the application you have installed, when run from the cmg, will see any alterations.
Autopackage is completely different imho. Autopackage is still a normal system installation tool, klik is not. Klik is a complimentary technology to normal system installation tools/processes, which uses them to take care of the things they do best (dependencies) but provides an alternative way to use the information and software they hold.
By Niall Walsh at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but klik seems to be more like Apple's Fat Binaries. A great solution for a specific problem (as in distributing testing / nightly versions of software in this case). It takes care of dependencies by putting all libs, but an agreed upon base set, in the package and you just stick it wherever you want and run it.
The aims of Autopackage are different/broader as it seeks to be a solution for distributing end user stable versions, without duplication of Libs and ultimately integrating it with the native distro package system be that tar.gz, deb, rpm or whatever else. It also a non-root user install locally and then informs the root user so he/she can install it globally if he/she thinks its pertinent. Actually those are just some highlights that I find important for me :) The Autopackage aproach is way more complicated, both to implement and to get working right, as there are, due to it's complexity, more points of failure. BUT... it solves a greater set of software distribution problems than klik.
My evaluation: Klik seems great for the job it was created (running testing/nightly builds on a tester/developer machine) THANKS GUYS. To install software on a non-testing machine, where things need to be installed globally, not duplicate lots of libs, allow easy updates & integrate well with the distro, there's Autopackage.
I have followed the Autopackage mailing list for many monts now and it is really exciting to see how they are solving the problems that crop up. Before I started reading the mailing list I had a vague idea that Linux Distros worked very differently and where using different incompatible versions of basic libs, but now that I see the guys at Autopackage solving so many things to be able to achieve their goal, (making relocatable binaries, dealing with different File structures and config systems, packaging systems etc) I see their efforts in a totally different light. It's a difficult task, but they have done very well so far.
Congrats on y'alls achievements with klik. It will make my complusive nightly testing and cutting edge feature admiring much easier ;)
By Andreas Hennig at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
Yes, it is more like an "Apple Fat Binary" then an autopackage.
I was unanaware (or had forgotten) that autopackage was usable by normal users to install software without administrative priveleges. I guess that puts klik and autopackage into "slightly" more competition which is never a bad thing :-) That being said, they address different needs, as you have pointed out, and have a fundamental difference, klik bundles dependencies and allows the "installation" of an application to have zero impact on your system (ok it might add a menu entry and maybe an icon to your system).
As I now understand it in user mode with autopackage the installation of one newer package could pull in updates which adversely imapct other software you have running. The flip-side is that autopackage can pull in underlying library updates which can see improvements in other applications. This is not trying to say klik is better then autopackage, just that they address different issues so comparisons can only really be made carefully. One updates a software system, the other simply makes programs available to run on a system. Horses for courses.
As I understand it if autopackage was successfully generally adopted by packagers , klik would have few if any problems using autopackages as the sources for it's cmg files.
By Niall Walsh at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
I think you have explained it well, Autopackage is still in the process of solving certain issues (although it's very usefull already). And I agree with you on you last statement, I don't have a clue if the developers have thought about that, They might. I think it would be cool if it was possible for developers to easily create both types of packages simultaneously. That would be great. I think having both types of packages created and available for a software would be very profitable.
By Andreas Hennig at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
"ok it might add a menu entry and maybe an icon to your system"
While I do not mind the addition of an icon or configuration files to my system, I find the menu entry a bit intrusive. While one can safely ignore the addition of an icon or configuration file, menu items are a different story. They are more difficult to remove (for end-users), particularly since klik doesn't have "uninstall" options. If the purpose is to avoid a "true" installation, then it shouldn't have a visible effect (when it isn't running)... Any behavior that is somewhat permanant is a "bug", IMHO.
Hence, I have a suggestion. Would it be possible to either:
I don't really know if either of the above solutions are implementable. However, if one of them (or something similar) would be implemented, this system would definitely be a nice complement to autopackage.
By Zachary Jensen at Mon, 2005/09/19 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
I agree with almost all you have said, but I wouldn't limit the scope of klik as much as you did. I think it's also interesting for end-users.
Just a few use-cases, where I think that klik would be useful:
a) You want to try-out a new version of an application without removing the current installation.
Besides the amount of duplicate libraries really depends on the definition of the base libraries. When you see Qt and kdelibs as part of the base system than the duplication is IMHO negligible.
By Christian Loose at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
How about that application where nobody has bothered yet to make a package for?
By Quintesse at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
Of course! My list wasn't meant to be exhaustive. :)
By Christian Loose at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
You're totaly right... my comment was not so much about what klik can do... but rather about how Autopackage complements Klik or vise-versa.
Scenario 1. I am the Admin
I can even think of a situation where I would use klik to test, check out the feature set or just generally check out a new tool I am thinking of deploying, and then (assuming both klik and autopackages are available... would be nice) once I want to deploy it for the rest of the users, I'd just get an autopackage and install globally, which would give me a few other advantages (as mentioned in earlier post). Or get the rpm, deb or whatever the native package format is.
Scenrio 2. I am just Joe User (or Andi user in my case :)
I want to run a tool my Admin does not have available, and probably won't provide... I get the Klik package and I am done, or I can get the Autopacke which also works, BUT: More than likely though, with me being one of those guys who likes to carry everything with Him (yes, I got a notebook... but the battery is dead, the powersupply is dying, I live in South America and got married recently - i.e. I can't afford a new one), I'd just put the Klik package on my USB stick and carry the tool with me... ;) Can't do that with Autopackage...
So, really In my earlier post I was just trying to clarify some more the usage of Autopackage (which is what I know more about) and not as much to explore the multiple uses of Klik.
I think there is some overlap in possible usage cases, but I still think that they are sufficiently different that a developer might want to publish binaries of all builds (nightly, alpha, beta, rc and final) with Klik and then maybe only publish final builds or maybe beta, rc and finals with Autopackage. I believe it's definitely not an either - or type scenario, but rather a matter of using the right package type for the right job and/or target audience.
By Andreas Hennig at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
Can't do that with Autopackage...
Or maybe I completely missed what you meant. :)
By Taj Morton at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
thanks for correcting me... that's exactly what I meant and I was wrong. That's why I sent a message to the Autopackage mailing list asking everyone to come over and join in the discussion, so the developers themselves would comment on Autopackage and correct any missrepresentation on my part.
Great to see you guys are joining in! You are the ones qualified to talk about Autopackage!! I just try and spread the word, though my understanding might not be complete.
By Andreas Hennig at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
thanks for correcting me... that's exactly what I meant and I was wrong. That's why I sent a message to the Autopackage mailing list asking everyone to come over and join in the discussion, so the developers themselves would comment on Autopackage and correct any missrepresentation on my part.
Great to see you guys are joining in! You are the ones qualified to talk about Autopackage!! I just try and spread the word, though my understanding might not be complete.
By Andreas Hennig at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
thanks for correcting me... that's exactly what I meant and I was wrong. That's why I sent a message to the Autopackage mailing list asking everyone to come over and join in the discussion, so the developers themselves would comment on Autopackage and correct any missrepresentation on my part.
Great to see you guys are joining in! You are the ones qualified to talk about Autopackage!! I just try and spread the word, though my understanding might not be complete.
By Andreas Hennig at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
Autopackage can do c). As for a and b, parallel-installs are slated for 1.1, but they're not implemented yet.
Patches welcome!
By Taj Morton at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Autopackage?
It would be nice to see the packaging tool create a torrent file, and an RSS file. Then when adding a klik, it can be registered in a DB with the RSS url. When needed, it simply torrents it down. In fact, the tool could be set-up to do autodownload (nice for nightly downloads) with the use of torrents (but the file could be palced in a different directory until the user has had time to approve the install). That way, most of the downloads occur in the first night (lots of systems to work with).
By a.c. at Sat, 2005/09/17 - 5:00am
Debian not on supported distributions lists? Sound kind of strange since all those distributions debian derivatives? Am I missing something here or what?
By Petteri at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Debian
### "(....) works for Live CD distributions (Knoppix, Kanotix) as well as for Debian, Linspire, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and openSUSE/SUSE Linux 10.0."
This looks to me like I listed Debian amongst the supported distributions... ;-P
By Kurt Pfeifle at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Debian
Ok. Sorry missed that one while looking at this page (which lists supported distributions):
But thanks for sorting the misunderstanding :)
By Petteri at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Debian support, but a sarge/etch .deb?
There is support, but I like to maintain my debian system
I heard a 'slh' on #kanotix (irc.freenode.net) has .debs, but
By Krishna Sethuraman at Sat, 2005/09/17 - 5:00am
Unbelievable! there's even a enlightenment package
I can't believe my eyes!
Just out of curiousity, I installed the klik client (very nice background info in Kurt's article, I really appriciated to read it and follow it through), and visited the mentioned openSUSE repository in .NZ to see what it had to offer.
Enlightenment poked my interest.
I run klik://enlightenment, and the popping up dialog informed me that it had discovered a SUSE 10.0 system, and it wanted to download 18 MByte of software. I confirmed, and 3 minutes later I had a georgious E17 desktop starting inside an Xnest window. All fully automatically! No installation, no configuration! I can't believe it!
By e17 fan at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Unbelievable! there's even a enlightenment package
### "(...) a georgious E17 desktop starting inside an Xnest window."
Yes, I was myself pretty impressed with the enlightenment package probono created a few days ago within 2-3 hours after it was requested in the #klik IRC channel.
It used indeed Xnest at first.
I suggested to use "nxagent" instead of Xnest (because it can be resized, and doesnt have a fixed window size, like Xnest), but unfortunately the current version has nxagent from 1.4.0 included (which does *not* support resize).
So I hacked my local .cmg myself. It was pretty easy to de-compress the .cmg into a directory tree, take out the old version of nxagent (including the old nx libs) and put in the 1.5.0 version (including the nx libs).
So my local enlightenment.cmg now starts up in a window that I can resize at will. And coolest thing: it even obeys the [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F] shortcut to toggle the window into fullscreen mode and back!
By Kurt Pfeifle at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Unbelievable! there's even a enlightenment package
Thats freaking awesome... and maybe a little creepy!
By Corbin at Fri, 2005/09/16 - 5:00am
Re: Unbelievable! there's even a enlightenment package
yeah, this is frightening... the MS ppl won't like this. now they took most of plasma's ideas into their 'gadgets' but this will be hard for them to do :D
they still don't have a centralized way of packagemanagement (and especially upgrading)...