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Flickball (working title)
We're really pleased with the positive reaction to our AR Football game 'Flickball' (working title) that Sony showed in their Vita launch event earlier in the week!
We're really pleased with the positive reaction to our AR Football game 'Flickball' (working title) that Sony showed in their Vita launch event earlier in the week!
I'm taking what may seem a bit of a lazy approach to a blog today by talking about our latest release which came out this Thursday 9th June. I'm going to try and cover the history of the game which is possibly a bit longer than people would imagine. Hopefully people trying the game will realise that a lot of effort has gone into us trying to get everything right with it that we can.
The game idea was originally conceived by Simon Butler (see his website here and get in touch with him if you need some great artwork), a great artist and friend who we've worked with for many years.
The original text description had a few major differences to the final game
Coupled with the description Simon had also produced a mockup video which we're showing here for the first time
Compared to a shot from the game as it is now
You can see the UI was a bit more complicated than it is now and at this stage we didn't have the awesome art style that Simon developed along with the Tic Toc character. It certainly had the craziness aspect and the Abraham Lincoln character popping in was great but we decided to drop (for now) from the full game.
This original video + text description were sent across on 14th July 2010, we discussed the ideas for a few months before having original prototypes around the inverse kinematics we were going to use to help the control system only be driven by the ends of the limbs.
Simon had the first 50 levels of the game put together very quickly and we had what seemed like most of the final assets by November, the implementation was still in a very early phase at this point due to other project commitments. We were however talking regularly about the plans and design for the project.
In January we started showing the game mockups around to people and getting a bit of feedback we also started working out the interface elements and arranging the game structure. We wanted to be familiar and try and emulate what Cut The Rope / Angry Birds (and many other games before them on other platforms) have done well in terms of the sets of levels and the simple advancement method that still encourages replayability by giving you a gold/silver/bronze type achievement status per level.
In early February the implementation was working well and we had a nice data driven system for putting all the levels together, we also integrated the music for each of the levels (each level has its own short loop to match the level theme). We also established the logo for the game and introduced the concept of the unlockable costumes.
At this stage we also killed off the initial idea of walls that rotate to provide an extra challenge as with the obstacles we had on later levels the game was fairly hard as it was!
During March / April we performed a LOT of tweaking of the levels, our main fear during this time was making it too hard a game as many of you will know when developing a game it's easy to start mastering it and then tweaking it to challenge yourself but then anyone new to the game faces an impossible task.
We integrated OpenFeint (who have been great to work with) and finished off essentials like the app icon, below is only one of the many pages of icons that Simon produced before we got to the final app icon.
May and the game is pretty much done, we've also been working on reducing the size of the game significantly and Phil performed his research into the simple but effective methods mentioned in the last blog post I did. We switched to zlib at the time as we wanted to keep the graphics lossless while we tested and evaluated other methods further which is why the game upon release is a fairly large 149mb.
I do believe that this could be a concern for us in terms of selling a lot of copies with it to start with and we do plan to reduce this down in the future (and also make some slight tradeoffs for <20mb lite versions if we choose to release one) however with the effort put into the art style I felt we should show it off the best we can upon release and try not to trade off on that.
Speaking of the artwork I'm going to leave it for another blog post but we have a lot of in progress art images that would be great to show, some of these show the subtle tweaks we made to the menus and level graphics which I believe have left us with a very polished feeling game.
At this point we were ready for submission, our final hurdle was some approval problems in terms of our OpenFeint use causing some concern with the Game Center features we were advertising, we got this turned around in about a week and ready to launch 6 days later. This delay unfortunately pushed us into WWDC/E3 week but we felt that we should still get launched.
We're expecting slightly slow sales to start with but our marketing push has begun and we'll hopefully see more of this coming online the next few weeks. From that the game should pick up a bit and get up the charts, if it doesn't we'll be pushing out a Lite version and trying some different tactics.
I hope you've enjoyed this brief (and hopefully interesting) look at the development of Tic Toc Body Pop and please try the game – available for 59p/99c for a limited time .
Click the icon for a link to the App Store.
Also a big thanks to our programmer Lewis for his pretty much solo work on most of the project and Gary, Phil and the rest of the team for their contributions in either tech or feedback.
Things we've been enjoying this week
Welcome to our first iDevBlogADay post, if this is your first visit please have a look at my recent introduction post.
I thought it would be nice to start with a numbers post as they're usually popular!
There is a focus of this particular post and it's not meant to be a negative – more of a 'this is a problem we have' and 'now we want to fix it' – advice / support is very welcome!
"Very slick + addictive"; "Fantastic value for money."; "Hugely addictive."; "Perfect for snackable gaming";"QuizQuizQuiz is the ultimate iPhone trivia game.";"QuizQuizQuiz sets the bar for trivia apps.";"QuizQuizQuiz is a breath of fresh air in the trivia genre."
QuizQuizQuiz is
Personally I believe that as long as a trivia game modes are fun the question content is the main value in any game of this genre, our cost to the user per question is probably 3 times lower than any competitor. The questions are also written and checked by professional quiz writers.
World domination wasn't quite our plan but we felt we had a very strong title upon launch though we knew we were up against some big traditional trivia brands.
A chart of worldwide sales then
Just looking at the chart and ignoring the numbers this looks like a lot of initial sales charts I've seen (or even a retail sales chart) – high initial sales with a long tail.
Including the numbers however we were very lucky and had high initial sales (on this chart around 70,000 at $0.99 – $2.99, more the lower end), unfortunately the long tail numbers are fairly small right now though do pay for the free drinks and beers for everyone in the office I guess!
The main reason for our high sales was mainly due to being featured by Apple after a strong start in both UK, Europe and US. Our support for all the major markets helped massively with this we feel.
Once we were in the top 10 charts (and #1 or #2 Paid App in some European stores which was an awesome feeling!) we wanted to stay there and so dropped the price when we dropped below 5th. We believe this kept us up there longer and I think this was the correct decision as it kept us in front of peoples eyeballs and allowed us to build something of a recognised brand – at the time at least.
If you're not in Europe it's likely you've never seen our game anywhere on the charts, if we look at US sales it unfortunately doesn't match sales in Europe.
This is further illustrated on the following piechart (which also shows Spanish localisation support wasn't that worthwhile!)
When we were enjoying the success in Europe we were praying that we'd get a staggered mirror of the results in the largest App Store market, this didn't happen and our US sales before Europe took off were actually higher than anything we did later on bizarrely
To be honest though we didn't expect sales to ever be massive in the US and Canada due to the lack of brand attached to the product.
Speaking to other local British developers not as informed about the product they assumed we didn't have US specific content and therefore we were putting people off but we had custom written App Descriptions explaining the content for each.
Of course with this kind of App Store evaluation you never really know why at a particular time something didn't sell.
I do think A/B testing is possible on the App Store I imagine it's just a bit of pain (both in setup and maintenance) and still has uncontrollable variables depending on how you do it. i.e. Release a separate app in different regions you believe to be similar, try a different price in each, release under two different names / icons across certain regions (possible to upset people buying twice here though).
Some ideas
We were told by other developers that piracy was a big problem, at the time I posted a few times on twitter saying this either wasn't a problem at all for us or our piracy test was broken. I had tried to find someone posting the game online and it just seems the pirates weren't big fans of trivia.
That was until almost 1 month exactly after launch when a version got posted up on a file sharing site. The current stats show that 23% of the people who have played the game were playing pirated versions.
As I mentioned we do detect pirated copies but we didn't do anything about them as we hoped they'd convert to purchases or encourage friends to try (though I guess they'd encourage them to try for 'free' as well!). We also have stats showing these people did play just as much as paying users though they tailed off a little earlier (due to less investment in the product I would think).
With Christmas fast approaching we decided to try a 'Lite' version in the form of a Christmas edition, this featured around 300 questions for all the markets we supported in the full product. It contained a splashscreen which popped up quite a bit with a link sending people to the full game on the App Store.
The chart above shows around 210,000 downloads.
Believe it or not this still gets downloaded a lot and we think it has helped maintain our long tail of sales of the full product.
This again failed to touch the US market but did have a massive uptake in the Italian market which encouraged us to increase the amount of Italian content in the main game in the first update we did.
The first update fixed a couple of question selection issues, some of the incorrect answers and added even more question content making ours the highest value quiz game on the store.
So what should we have done next – or what could we still do perhaps?
We've been working on lots of different projects this year and now QuizQuizQuiz and our other trivia brands are getting even more of our attention.
We released QuizQuizQuiz World Football as a 59p app as a mid-way point lite version before the World Cup, this unfortunately got a little lost in the World Cup app frenzy. It did seem to gain us some extra fans though and the content is valuable for the future.
We're currently working on updates for the app for the upcoming iOS features to see if we can revitalise sales of the game as the content is still very current.
Another trivia game You Are The Ref (a football / soccer trivia app based around the amazing artwork of sports artist Paul Trevillion) which we have developed is gradually growing its fanbase and we plan to cross-promote all of our apps in the near future.
We're also listening and learning more as we go along, at the end of the day we're developers trying to do marketing which is really good fun but we've learnt that we need to be disciplined in the approach we take and make sure we don't let the ball drop at anytime.
That post certainly ended up a lot longer than I imagined!
Any feedback / ideas for us would be very welcome (and indeed any comments on the article or the blog in general).
Thanks for reading! (please check out the mini section below, will see how long I can maintain that too)
QuizQuizQuiz after a slightly slow first few weeks has taken off the last few days after being featured by Apple.
We're now number one in the US and Canada trivia charts as well as being in the top 10 in the majority of the other stores.
Simon also did an interview with Pocket Gamer Biz which can be viewed here
Since our last post we've been hard at work on various projects both self-published (with various development partners) and work-for-hire on some exciting new download platforms. We're really excited about working on some of the digital distribution platforms with their easy access to market and through Facebook/Twitter it's much easier to communicate with end-users than it ever has been in the past.
We'll be attending the Develop Conference in Brighton this week, if anyone would like to meet for a chat with us please drop us an email via the details on the contact page.


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January 07, 2017
Steve Mason played extremely well in net during the Flyers' 10-game win streak earlier this season. In his eight games since, however, he's gone just 1-5-2, including five straight losses before giving way to Michal Neuvirth on Saturday.
But that record isn't entirely his fault. In his eight starts during last month's streak, Mason allowed 19 goals (2.38 GAA) and posted a .926 save percentage. In those last eight starts? He's allowed 20 goals (2.5 GAA) and has a lower, but not terrible, .896 save pct.
We've previously written about how Mason seems to play better when he's starting on a more regular basis, but after starting nine straight games and 13 out of the last 14 for the Flyers, it was becoming increasingly clear that the 28-year-old goalie needed a day off.
Luckily, that came just in time for Neuvirth's return from a nearly two-month-long absence while he recovered from a knee injury he suffered back on Nov. 12. And while that injury was perhaps the catalyst to Mason's hot streak, it was also the main recent for his recent struggles.
With the Flyers looking to snap a five-game skid that has pushed them to within two points of falling out of playoff position, Neuvirth reminded everyone why a proven backup goalie is so important. He stopped 24 of 26 Tampa Bay shots as the Flyers rode a four-goal second period to a 4-2 win at the Wells Fargo Center.
More importantly, he stopped the bleeding -- metaphorically, of course.
"Very big," Neuvirth said of the win. "I thought it was a great team effort for sixty minutes, we didn't give them much. They pushed back in the third, but our PK was big at the end, 6 on 5, that was big too."
Neuvirth didn't see much action in the first two periods but kept the Lightning in check long enough to allow his teammates to blow the game wide open. Perhaps it was a nice way to ease him back into action, because when he was tested late, he made all the save necessary to preserve the slump-busting win.
"Solid," coach Dave Hakstol said when asked to asses Neuvirth's performance in his first game back. "That's a long layoff. I didn't count the days but it was about six or seven weeks. And that's a long time to be out of game action. I thought he was solid -- had a good solid performance throughout. I thought he looked settled and did a good job for us."
With Mason desperately in need of a night off, it's nice for the Flyers to again have a seasoned backup -- especially if they have their sights set on making a playoff run.
"It is great [to have Neuvirth back]," said Jake Voracek, who notched a pair of assists in the win. "It was big for Neuvy with his first game back and make a couple huge stops, and get a win. We are going to have a tough one tomorrow. It is the best team in the league. We have to make sure we are going because it is going to be a hard game."
He's not kidding about it being a tough game.
The Flyers are set to face Mason's former team, the Blue Jackets, on Sunday, and after an extra day of rest on Saturday, the starter will resume his role in Columbus. After falling to the Rangers on Saturday, the first-place Blue Jackets have lost two straight. Prior to that, however, they had won 16 straight.
Now, thanks to their win on Saturday, it will be the Flyers coming in with some momentum.
"No I didn't go in [the locker room] with the guys as a group, but just seeing guys in and around after, it's nice to win a hockey game and it's been a while since we've had that feeling," Hakstol said of the team's overall mood after snapping their five-game skid. "[It] doesn't matter how well you've played in a couple of games along the way. It's important to get the two points, it's important to do it the right way."
But with Columbus now looking to stop a losing streak of its own, Hakstol wants to make sure his guys stay focused on the task in front of them.

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o this should get intrusting. im going to take a gees at this and say there going to get bise or get interrupted prior to it
Guess you were right about a sex scene coming up fast XD
But... What about Shaidan? Or is he going to have some payback with a certain Tauren female that I believe was mentioned? Seems like a pretty big deal to cheat on him like that
Don't get me wrong, I'm loving the comic so far, but so far the twist seems to be that a) Worgen are the bad guys (not all, but I mean your direction), b) Tauren are misunderstood, c) Tauren males screwing around with Worgen girls
I like both races mind you, and your great at drawing your sex scenes ;) But when are we going to see some Worgen loving? Or some variaty in the interracial couples?
Not all Worgen's are bad guys, just this one group. I have not really played the Tauren are misunderstood card, I am using them the way I saw them in WoW.
The rest of the questions you will have to wait and see in comic.
Alright, I'll just wait and see what her reasoning is then. Should be interesting!
Though I hope it isn't anything about them breaking up. I was hoping to see more about them as a couple..
When was it ever said Shai and Amo didn't have an open relationship?
sry but yall are all wrong all ally are bad lol. for the hord. and if you have somethhing to say mail me.server [sarfang] name baderest
a funny just acuered to me Amo about to find out 1 what a Tauren like in side her, or what it like to have a dragon in her, Kinar know the dragon one but Anders is a full groyne dragon yet
Oh please don't cut to a totally different scene after this...I think I speak for many fans here when I say we want to see Amo naky now!! >3< she's my type of girl actually xD
^ a thousand times this
Pleeeease don't cut to another scene and skip all the good stuff ;-;
aww you guys be patient, if she want to cut to an other scene to make you wait a bit and enticipating it, it's still her the story teller, and don't tell her to what to do, let us not be ungrateful, she is writing an awesome comic for all of you just like that and asking for nothing, i think if I would b her, I would totally make you wait for the saucy scene XD building enticipation is so fun XD
P.S. sorry for the bad english, frenchy here
I know I know, but still, I'm a huge sucker for romantic stories (not to mention im a guy :P ) its just so easy to get sucked in and wish for more. Truly great works of lit :3 but seriousness aside, Amo has been asking for it for so long and high time see what she brags about in her own details XD cant wait ^^ <3
Oh, and I know it's a bit late but...
Meery Christmas Amocin! ^_^
*Merry* Troublesome phone >.>
and in advance, a happy new year to you! ^_^
I was enjoying the comic up until this page, then when I got to this page I'm enjoying the comic even more
Find out her reasons? Isn't it obvious? Why else would an Undead sleep with an entity of innate Life? She wants to feel alive again, even if just for a moment, of course!
lol, I bet that skull would be crying right now if it could.
Nonononono... not 'fuck it', it's 'fuck you'.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
Just a thought I had.
That 'cheating' stuff wholly depends on the marriage vows. If it is `till death do us part, well, she died, so technically they are no longer married since she became a Death Knight.
Aaah... I love the social and legal problems that turn up when intelligent undead and resurrections come into play.
I think Amo and Shai have a "free relationship".
I'm trying to say that a little cheat isn't very important for the two.
It's just my opinion, but I think Amocin can better answer than me. ^^
I say you should should the process. People have been wildly screaming for more 'sex', so if you're going to give it to them, make them wait even more with teasing and such. That's just my humble opinion, though.
I find the whole cheating topic odd when one has to remember, a Dragon gets what Drogan wants.
Vastly different species and clearly not of the Horde, therefore: not cheating.
Also, Drogan's reaction is fairly accurate to most males. Initial reluctance followed by 'eh, why not'.
Yeah, I imagine doing a strip tease from full plate would be a rather challenging thing to do XD
I pretty sure that snowflake is going to walk in on them. I mean he does always find his way back to Amo.
Edit: Also i wonder if the 25$ bundle will include the december pic too, had a problem this month with paypal so the 5$ for this month wont come this year ..damn banks
Oh the long and involved process of switching the "A" and the "o". xP But hey, if it works, it works.
The different dragonflights in WoW have specific naming conventions, and while they will shorten their names, leaving off what amounts to their flight's suffixes, there is a full correct way to name a dragon. For the reds, the males end in -strasz and the females end in -strasza. Male Bronze end their names in -dormu. I could probably find more, but I don't have my notes immediately available. I'm compiling all of my own fiction set in WoW that I've been writing since I started playing 9 years ago (yeah, original beta) which includes several dragons. Just a note. Artistic license and all that. Loving the comic. Keep up the good work.
WHAT A SHAME!!! A paladin is meant to be a banner of retribution and righteousness, a radiant light of justice and purity. And now this symbol has been enticed by such dirty and wicked DK... Drogan should have punished only the idea of this sordid offer... But he just says "Fuck it"... WHAT THE FUCK!!! WHAT THE SHIT!!!
I am very disappointed of such decision, I hope this will not go ahead and Drogan will find his REDEMPTION!!!
1. Not all Death Knights are bad... using Mograine's name I'd think you'd know that, clearly not. You should pay more attention to the lore. Evil may have created her, may have left its mark on her— but evil does not rule her, therefore she is not evil.
2. He isn't *really* a Paladin, he is just masquerading as one.
Wicked? And perhaps consider that he is a Dragon of Life first, and a Paladin second, hmmm? What is wicked about this? See my other comments in this thread...
It doesnt matter what she is, so long as she acts lawfully or good in his presence, and he has no knowledge of evil doings on her part.
really? A) he is a member of the red dragon flight, B) a tauren paladin is his guise to interact with mortal beings of Azeroth, C) Amocin is a death knight that broke free of the lich kings control, so in essence she is a born again citizen of gilnaes and member of the alliance , and D) lore and ingame the same type of dks helped kill arthas and weaken the scourge (by way of throning a new lich king)
Well... I would expect Red dragons in particular, to be life affirming... and the fact that this particular Death Knight is acting in a way that is in accordance with *life*, not death, is very telling.
Sad to see that some people are legitimately getting upset over Amos actions, and even though Drogan is a paladin im pretty sure Tauren paladins or dragons in this case, treat everything in a different manner than the so called righteous human paladin who would probably forefit thier connection to the light.
on another note, glad to see Amo getting in on the action. Drogan is one lucky guy to get some of that beauty to himself.
It is untrue about the human paladin 'forfeiting his connection to the light". Maybe if the death knight he was doing these things with was actually evil, but Amo isn't.
Connection to the light isn't like that though, so long as the person truly believes what they are doing is "good" and righteous they will continue to have it's power (and I honestly don't think that applies to their love lives, lol) - that's why the Scarlet crusade paladins can still channel the light, even though they are complete pieces of trash. The light is more about how you feel about yourself than what you're actually doing.
D: No, Amo, you're a married woman!
Honestly, I'm curious, why did Amo cheat on her husband? I get a lot of people are blaming her being a DK, but really, why would she do that? o.o Will the reason be shown later on?
I don't mean to be "that guy" but realistically speaking wouldn't deathknights be, you know...cold?
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to poke holes or anything and I'm certainly not complaining. I'm more excited about this scene than a kid in a free candy store but I'm just a little curious is all.
Also, just wanted to thank you for taking the time to do this comic Amocin. Your work is always great
Hmm, i seem to remember that death knights are enduring significant pain and suffering and most vent upon there victims, to suppress it.
But it seems Amo have "found" another way to suppress the pain, and the searing holy heal from Drogan might just have spiked the desire to suppress the pain :)
Seeing as Drogan leaves flowers everywhere, would that mean that Amo will be re-flowered, thus virgin again? XP
Well now Amo has something to gossip about... shame she'll probably leave the dragon part out, would make the story much better when told XP
That is so Amo. Why do I get the feeling the other two are going to walk in on them.
Why? She will be gossiping about a certain dragon and an unnamed female Death Knight. She simply will forget to mention that she was the Death Knight.
I don't know. I'd like to think Kinar would be smart enough to get the underlying message that Amo is saying, since she knows Amo well enough. I wouldn't like the comic making Kinar look dumb by not knowing what Amo is talking about.
That being said, Amo did say "while we wait for the others", so it's possible they could get caught in the act. Seeing as how Shaidan is Kinar's older brother, I believe she'd be pissed at Amo for sleeping with another guy behind Shaidan's back. Unless, again, if they have an open relationship or somesuch.
Sorry, my reply should have gotten to the comment above yours (and I'm sure I clicked right).
Hmmm we are in death knight territory... how do we know that amo isn't working for the Death Knights besides the fact she fought against them? It'd suck but be a plot twist if she turned against Drogan and merely seduced him to get his guard down. o.O
Just because shes a death knight and a worgen doesn't mean she sympathizes with their cause. Deathknights aren't like druids, they have and often do fight against other deathknights and don't necessarily have any loyality to others of the class by virtue of belonging to the class. Also for Amo it would mean betraying her husband, her sister-inlaw and her father in-law... something I don't see her doing on a whim.
... Because basically its the only family she seems to have, at least that we know of so far.(got cut off)
Ammo you naughty worgen you! Actually not that surpsrising in retrospect
Love this comic, all the clean and all the dirty parts.
Also made a donation myself a few days ago for this month's pic ^_^
Nope you're right. But I hardly think the panel is ruined because of an missing 'i' XP
I shall fix this shortly. Thanks.
See it Coming and i Think they Made ,,Doggy Style". I love this whole Comic and Amocin you have a fan in Austria :)
Guess Amo really did get curious about sex with taurens after knowing all about Serid and Kinar going at it. Yeah, Drogan's a dragon, not a tauren, but he has a tauren form just now, so it counts.
Me, I'm personally enraged by adultery, so I'm likely to not find this scene hot even with Drogan in it. Amo's coming across badly, so unless there's a good reason for this (such as her and Shaidan having an open relationship) I'm likely to not agree with her doing this. And if her reason is a lame one, I hope there's some form of karma ready to smack her in the face.
Least Drogan's getting some fun, one wonders how often or seldom a guy like him gets to enjoy a girl like this.
Oops, forgot to mention, that's a funny touch that they covered the undead drragon skull's eyes.
I'm guessing you think its because they dont want the dragon skull to see them, but, if you look closely, when Amo freaks out from the dragon head and jumps into Drogan's arms, its because the skull's eyes lit up. After that, you see its eyes covered through out the pages until now.
Yeah, I know it's been covered in previous pages, and Drogan did say the spirit is no longer in the skull. I still think it's a funny touch that they're having sex and the skull's eyes are covered.
I for one, am glad you made the decision to couple these up. Not for the porn, but for the immense possibilities for future storytelling. Having a dragon of the Red Dragonflight come to this decision identifies him greatly with the "mortal" races. He understands their plight, cares for them, and above all else, is not perfect in any way.
Not to mention he will probably change his view towards Death Knights. We've seen a lot of undeserved and ignorant hate coming from him towards Amo for being what she is (something she had no decision on), so maybe Amo will open his mind to not be so quick to judge, and not be such a party pooper and learn to enjoy the little things in life!
Also, the interaction and awkwardness that will come from Drogan will be TOO good to pass up when they finally reunite with the rest of the group! (Or Amo totally tells Kinar while still in this quest!) That has got to be funny :3
GENIUS I SAY! Keep up the great work! I know you work hard on this, and have thought of everything carefully. You deserve every little bit of praise and support. So here's a drink on you! Cheers!
Ik she isn't cheating. Maybe she's on same quest or wants life in her. Idk, but great job and well done!
You said that there would be a scene with Amo and Shaidanin the future.Will it be an adult scene? You've got a fan from China!
Excuse me for sounding like a giant weeaboo, but am I the only one who thought that Amo was exactly like Konata from Lucky Star, personality wise? :P
Why would thinking that make you a weeaboo?
I think Amo is way more hardcore. But I can see where you're coming from.
You know, I think it would be more amusing if you didn't show them goin at it, but instead have the others notice something odd about Amo and Drogan's interaction with each other. I know all us Hentai McPervface's out here want to see bumping uglies but sometimes it can be a bit bothersome if one is more interested in the characters and the crazy shit they do. A good comic to look at as far as pacing for sexy times is 'The Challanges of Zona', if you want an example. Also just to be clear, I will enjoy Druids no matter what direction you take it. More Worgen and Tauren fluff is always a good thing. :D
10 dollahz says that somebody is going to walk in on them.
Whenever I read Amo, I imagine her voice as if it were a normal woman's voice rather than Blizzard's worgen voice, but still going through their DK voice filter. How do you imagine her sounding when you write her?
Pretty much how I imagined then. Nice to know I got her right.
Im hoping that the whole reason for cheating is really something major because I despise cheating and it sucks that Amo is the one doing it since shes my fav character xD
What in tarnation?
Amocin, I thought you said before that Amo would not be chatting on Shai?
Or am I misremembering?
Unless... yes, of course, that would make sense.
I'm calling it: this is Drogan's dream sequence!
i really think Amo and Shaidan are happy with each other and Amo shouldn't cheat just for fun.
Dragon Skull Sez: Please don't do it on my head please don't do it on my head please don't do it on my head
I don't think the Red Dragons would really care that much about doing anything with a DK. Their aspect is that of life, yes, but the Death Knights of the Ebon Blade (which I'm assuming she's a part of) aligned with both the Alliance and Horde were allies of the Red Dragonflight during the events of WotLK.
If a Red Dragon would allow a DK to ride him/her and shed blood together (or whatever the hell it is DK's bleed), would a sexual encounter really be so different?
I could understand the sentiment if we were talking about Forsaken, considering their general state of decay, in addition to their immoral and unethical actions undertaken repeatedly in the past, but not Death Knights.
Are you going to add so stuff from mist of pandaria in this series?
To those that are `outraged' that either of our two protagonists would indulge in such a tryst, I ask...by what basis is what they are doing wrong?
If your affront is based upon your upbringing in a human society with a monogamous tendency, then you should be thinking about the fact that neither of these characters WERE. Amo is a worgen, and Drogan is a dragon. What makes you think either of their cultures condemn their actions, if not outright condone them? Especially that of a dragonflight, wherein the broodmothers have multiple consorts (all the better for producing large clutches of eggs).
As for the `moral behavior of paladins; if you ever played any role playing games (or know anything about the history of knights), you'd know that...as long as they don't commit any outright evil acts...there is a lot of leeway in that regard.
And that means that they're automatically monogamous?
I did not say that they were I was simply pointing out that some of the charters were and technically still are human. A cursed human is still a human.
amo, are you aware that your comic has been posted on rule34.paheal.net ?
wait, forgot to mention that paheal is the only reason i found your comic in the first place; before you have the post removed, consider letting them be a form of free advertising
So long as the pages do not have the link at the bottom of the page removed, they are free to be uploaded anywhere.
ok, just making sure u were ok with it. btw, happy new year! love you, enjoy the holidays!
In the window where Amo says :"So?" She totally has that : "Are you not entertained!!" Stance hahaha, nice one!!! :D
I realy dont know why people are always ranting about things happening in teh comics thats outside the wow lore.
And besides amocin has clearly stated that what happens wil be explained in the comic, so just watch instead of complaining about who has sex with who or things like that.
I just discovered this comic a couple of weeks ago and I am really enjoying it so far, but I must ask. is there a regular update time for the comic, or is it just whenever you have time? I'm sorry if this seems like a noob question.
hey amo (sorry, im not trying to pester you) your comic is posted on comic fury, right? so if I want to be able to post in the forums and have an avatar,I need to get a comic fury account right?
Things are going a nice way, I'm eager to see how it'll be^^
I hope that Amo will give us a good reason,not just for fun.Looking foward.
Now that skull needs to come back to life, the blindfold needs to fall off, and then it can have a O_O and ^_^ expression.
heh its good to see that the average post gets about 10-20 replies and one involving the start of a sex scene gets spammed with replies...
hey amo, (im in the hospital (again) and have alot of spare time that needs killing. please tell me if im out of line or being rude, but I know a lot of upstart comic owners that would love to swap banners with other comic owners, and since your comic is still pretty "new," i thought it might be a great idea if you all traded banners and posted links to each other's comics so that every one can get some more new viewers? sorry, im not trying to be rude :(
As far as your question goes, I dont really update my link page that often, and I am somewhat picky as to who I put on there. While it is always nice to help others out with advertising, it is best if they advertise through other venues for comics, such as belfrys, and other comic sharing sites that center more around their type of comics.
Damn you for mentioning a good comic under the list tap, ended up reading the twokinds comic, in one go:P
So the dragon skull doesn't want to look lol?
well its "eyes" are covered
It's funny to see how many people are pointing out that the dragon skull's eyes are covered NOW, when they have been covered for the past three pages.
I found this comic by mistake but damn it i did read it all once i found it and now you got me hooked :P
Great job amo ^^
is there a reason that the perverted DK worgen, has part of your name as her name?
just pointing that out, not trying to be rude.
Ahh...Maybe Shai did someting bad to Amo..Is this her reason?I don't think she is a pervert and don't wanna see her as a pervert at the end of the scene.I wish that she can give us a good reason.
some answers just take its course to be explained just like in wow when ur questing and wondering whats going on just have to have a little patience not to trying to be a douche towards others in here im just curious as u guys are at why shes doing this with him but with her she has mysterious reasons for her behavier
From personal experience I can say armor takes a while to get on right and for some designs may take another set of hands to help. Getting it off is about a 15 second job on solid dry land.


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UNEARTH is currently taking part in a co-headlining tour with technical metal comrades BORN OF OSIRIS. This is UNEARTH's first full U.S. tour since appearing on select All Stars Tour shows and their October trek in Southeast Asia. This tour kicked off on November 1 in Nashua, New Hampshire, with stops along the way in Bloomington, Illinois; Dayton, Ohio; and Lake Worth, Florida before ending up on the West Coast as part of California Metalfest VI with KILLSWITCH ENGAGE, AS I LAY DYING and more.
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Saturday June 1st, 2013
Bob Rehn
Reflections on Volunteering at the 2013 Kettle Moraine 100 Mile
Bob helps with distribution of timing chips prior to start of the 2013 Kettle 100.
I made the 150 mile trip to the Nordic Trailhead just east of Whitewater Wisconsin, to help friends who are the race directors of the Kettle Moraine Endurance Runs. These races include the solo 100 mile, 100KM. ( 62 mile ), 4 person 100 mile relay, and the popular 38 mile fun run which begins at 8 oclock Saturday evening. As I arrived at noon on Friday, people were already unloading a big truck with everything needed to support a race of 500 runners held entirely on single track trail through the densely wooded Kettle Moraine State Forrest. The amount of supplies needed to stock 9 manned and 4 unmanned aid stations is overwhelming. All the supplies, which include everything from watermelons to pickles and peanut butter and jelly to cookies and crackers and everything in between, with gallons of soda and sports drink to keep everyone hydrated. It takes a lot of food and drink to fuel 500 runners for a race that lasts for 30 hours.
My main job on Friday afternoon and evening, along with my friend Pete, is to haul 50 gallon barrels of water out to the aid stations. We always time our water deliveries so that the last one we do is the Bluff aid station. The group that mans this aid station camps there overnight and they always fry fish and french fries so we get a good meal before heading off for a few hours sleep.
My phone rang at 4:00 am , The race director calling, time to get going. Race start time is 6:00am, a lot to do before that. Packet pickup, chip pickup, last minute registrations. Its always interesting to observe people getting ready for the long journey. Some are happy, exuberant. Nervous energy I guess. Others are very quiet, almost withdrawn, not talking or even making eye contact with anyone. Contemplating what lies ahead of them, many hours down the trail. I have come to believe that anyone with a reasonable amount of fitness can run a long distance. The limiting factor is the strength of ones mental toughness. Shortly before 6:00 am, Timo, one of the race directors, gives final instructions to the runners, and then the race is underway.
There are 3 aid stations that also serve as drop bag points. The first one is the Emma Carlin station at mile 15.5. I load all the bags in my truck and head up there. The morning is heating up with high humidity, we have to get ice to the aid stations, stop in the town of Palmyra and get 15 twenty two pound bags of ice. First stop is the unmanned Horseriders station, we fill a cooler with ice as runners are coming in, sweat pouring off of them. This weather is going to take its toll, especially in the meadows, a 10 mile stretch of trail that is open grassland with no shade.
The Scuppernong station is at the 31.4 mile mark where the runners turn around and retrace their steps back to the Nordic Trailhead start/finish area. At Scuppernong we start to see fatigue in the faces and eyes of the runners. Some are taking a short break to refuel at the well stocked aid station and talk to their crews who have met them there. The aid station workers are busy filling water bottles, making sandwiches, and doing anything they can to give the runners whatever they need, including words of encouragement. Others come in, grab a handful of something to eat and head back down the trail. The heat is causing stomach problems, Gingerale and Tums are in great demand.
I had a pleasant surprise when I saw Steve Shay, a Starved Rock Runner member from Morris, come into the aid station, we spoke briefly as he filled his water bottles. Steve is attempting his first 100 miler. Its now past noon, I get a call from Jason the co-race director, aid stations are running out of ice, off to town for another 15 bags of ice. Its also time to start refilling water barrels. Were constantly on the move, starting to get tired. I will end up driving 350 miles going back and forth along the course.
For me the most difficult aspect of running this 100 mile race would be the way the course is laid out. Starting at the Nordic Trailhead, runners go north for 31.4 miles, turn around and come back to Nordic, 62.8 miles. At this point the 100KM. race is finished. But the 100 milers have a 38 mile out and back section to complete. This trail is very rocky and hilly with lots of roots, this part of the trail is run mostly after dark. This is my tenth year of volunteering at the Kettle Moraine, and over the years I have seen runners come into the start/finish area after completing 62 miles, plop themselves into a chair, take off shoes and socks and look like death warmed over. As they sat, we wondered if they were going to drop out, it looked like it would be impossible for them to run another step. After a while they would get up, fill their bottles and head down the trail into the pitch black woods. Thats mental toughness. I have often wondered, could I do that? I dont know.
Its now almost midnight, all of a sudden excitement breaks out at the finish line as headlamps appear coming up the trail out of the woods. The 100 mile winner crosses the finish line in 17 hours 52 minutes 55 seconds. 37 seconds later the second place runner crosses the line. Hard to believe, after a 100 miles of running, only 37 seconds separate the first two runners.
I have seen and heard some memorable things at the finish line of this race over the years. I remember one guy with a blank stare on his face muttering to no one in particular, They never end, they just never end, the hills, they never end. One lady after finishing, exclaimed, That was harder than childbirth . One year on Friday afternoon, a lady joined us as we were stuffing race packets, she mentioned that this would be her first 100 miler. I happened to be at the finish line about 9:00 oclock Sunday morning as she finished the 100 miles. She was met there by her family, there were hugs and laughter and a joyous celebration. Suddenly her laughter and smiles disappeared and the tears started to flow as she realized what she had just accomplished. Ill never forget that moment.
Its now well past midnight, runners will continue to finish throughout the night and until noon on Sunday. I head for my truck to get a little rest. At daylight we start cleaning up aid stations. The final finisher crosses the finish line 9 minutes before the 30 hour cutoff.
It was a good weekend. No one got lost, no one got seriously injured, no storms. Im tired, time to head home.
See You In A Few Miles
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Update on the landscaping
We thought we were done with the landscaping, but now the wet season has come and we can now see how lush our plants will become. We have fine tuned some of the areas and I decided that I need more things that will bloom and I am working on that. I do like some of my 'mini' areas where I have added some plants that I have been gifted....and in turn I have gifted plant cutting to others.
So take a look and see where I am in the landscaping saga...by the way I have a person that comes in 1/2 day each week who waters if needed, sprays and does other things like planting. Otherwise it's just CQ and I keeping it up.
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Talking about Love and Sex, Uwanma Odefa opens up on the mistakes men make with the impression that they are doing right.
Many men see themselves as sexual experts, she says, but such men can't even properly satisfy their wives/girlfriends as the women would like, thereby invalidating their bloated opinions about their sexual abilities.
This can be traced to the following five mistakes:
1. Thinking sex is all about strength
Men need to realise that they are not hammers, and that the female sexual organ is not just a hole, the vlogger says.
She also adds that the act of sex requires more finesse than most men seem to be aware of.
"I know we [women] want it a bit rough sometimes, but if all your [thoughts] whenever you think about sex is [rough pounding], please have a rethink, " she adds.
2. Going on and on
More men need to realise that pleasing a woman is not about going on ceaselessly with the sex.
Going on for 50 minutes or 1 hour does not prove that you are 'The Man' and when prolonged unduly, sex could really get exhausting.
Sex is meant to be enjoyable, and to achieve that, partners do not need to go on a marathon.
So the idea that you need to go on and on to satisfy the woman needs to be stopped.
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When men choose to make sex all about the vagina, there's only an amount of pleasure they can give their wives or girlfriends.
The whole process of sex is meant to be a thing of totality and wholeness. Your wife's most sensitive part needs to be discovered and paid attention to, but not at the expense of other body parts.
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Switching positions during sex has to be a mutual thing, and even if men love to take charge, it'd be great to let a partner enjoy and get relaxed with one position before switching over to yet another one.
Big mistake.
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Thinking that sex ends immediately after you cum is like the biggest mistake on this list, because it is the height of selfishness.
Assuming that your orgasm is the point of the whole process is very annoying and every woman would find it uncaring and unfair. So even after you get an orgasm, try to see if your woman is satisfied yet, and if she isn't, you need to help her achieve that satisfaction.
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Scientific and technical advances have among their objectives preserve the life and health of man, so the search for various means to these ends is always present. The means to achieve these purposes, include use of the Herbal & Natural Alternative and Complementary Medicine, which has gained a great therapeutic importance in nowadays.
This is study about the application of an Integrated Therapeutic Program based on natural Herbal & alternative and Complementary medicine for the overall improvement of the healing process in patients with Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury, in which we did a qualitative analysis of the efficiency of this therapeutic program by comparing the results of ACL Quality of Life Questionnaire, Brief Pain Inventory, Squad Test and Standing Stork Test, applied to patients with ACL injury that attended the main hospitals and private physiotherapy clinics in Cape Verde and the patients who received the treatment by the proposed therapeutic program.
Some of the results that most stood out in the research were the significant difference between the measurements as well as a better improvement in the results of the experimental group than control group. Also was no significant difference between the experimental group and their teammates without ACL injury.
Kiluange de Melo Araújo, Li Feng, Xiao Jun
Huazhong University of Science and Technology, Wuhan-China
Kiluange de Melo Araújo, Li Feng, Xiao Jun, "Integrated Therapeutic Program for Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury" International Journal of Medical Works, Vol. 2, Issue 1, PP. 1-5, January, 2016.
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[2] Farshad, M., et al. (2011). "Reconstruction versus conservative treatment after rupture of the anterior cruciate ligament: cost effectiveness analysis." BMC Health Serv Res 11: 317.
[3] Tjoumakaris, F. P., et al. (2012). "Complications in brief: Anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction." Clin Orthop Relat Res 470(2): 630-636.
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[13] Hasegawa, S., et al. (2011). "Effect of early implementation of electrical muscle stimulation to prevent muscle atrophy and weakness in patients after anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction." J Electromyogr Kinesiol 21(4): 622-630.
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[15] Barrett, A. M., et al. (2011). "Anterior cruciate ligament graft failure: a comparison of graft type based on age and Tegner activity level." Am J Sports Med 39(10): 2194-2198.
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[20] Thomee, P., et al. (2008). "Self-efficacy of knee function as a pre-operative predictor of outcome 1 year after anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction." Knee Surgery, Sports Traumatology, Arthroscopy 16(2): 118-127.
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[Anne likely d/o John Hulcote who died in 1482 with properties in Northampton, Leicester, Lincoln and Oxford.]
7/1445, John Cope, esq., "of Deanshanger" (in Passenham), Northamptonshire, age 10, heir to his father.
1475-85, "John Cope v. John Hulcote, esquire, and others, feoffees to uses.: Messuages and land in Helmeden, Clipston, Nowbold, and Swynford.: Northants. In Foxton: Leicester. In Ryby: Lincoln. In Grymesby and Banbury, belonging to Anne, complainant's wife." (S) UKNA. (S) [Anne apparently inherited a large estate.]
1491, Puxley recovered by John in a suit against James Edy.
Bef. 11/18/1498, John died, leaving to son Edward and Wife Anne, 3 messuages, 6 cottages, 100 a. of land, 100 a. of meadow, 100 a. of pasture and 20s. rent in Deanshanger, Passenham, Wick Dive, Wick Hamon and Puxley. (S) UKNA.
5/1/1510, son Edward died.
12/3/1513, Anne died, leaving as her heir her granddaughter Anne, d/o Edward, age 9.
(S) MCA, P128. (S) 'Passenham', A History of the County of Northampton: V5: The Hundred of Cleley, 2002.
Child of John and Anne:
i. Edward Cope (16490), born ~1465 in England.


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Yep, I think I'm still the slowest knitter.
Here are the pictures.
I should call these the Sampler Socks because I did different things on each sock. Didn't really mean to, it just worked out that way because I'm still refusing (like a bad knitter child) to rip out and start over when I screw up.
Here are the socks on my feet inside the sandals I will be wearing them with today. (Yes, I did consider that it MIGHT appear I'm flashing gang colors, but at this point, I don't care. It's Friday.)
Here are the toes. The ones on the left are correct and from Stephanie's second to last book. But it was all the way upstairs when I started on the last sock's toes and so the toe finish on the right sock is wrong.
In any case, they worked out. They fit and they are comfortable.
On to the purple ones. I'm going to try toe-up this time and will do two socks simultaneously. It may still take nearly a year, but at least they will be finished at the same time.


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We talked earlier today about the NBA team owners and players not being too far apart on a potential deal, and in the latest letter from the union to the players, Billy Hunter says an agreement isn't out of reach, but plenty of dialogue remains. Per Yahoo! Sports: "In letter union sent to players today, Hunter and [Derek] Fisher say: 'Yesterday, the owners gave us an opportunity to back down. We refused. Reducing our share of BRI by 7 points to 50% — a level we have not received since the early 1990's — is not a fair split. Hunter reminds players that they've offered owners $185M per year giveback worth $1.1 billion over 6 year deal. 'The clear message we have received from the players, and the one we will heed, is not to back down.' Hunter suggested on Tuesday that deal was 'on the 3-yard line.' In letter to players, union calls negotiations 'far from over.'"
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Oh, what fun I have had creating this collage! It has been a while since I've experimented with my various pieces of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Alice's Adventures Throug…
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In 1865, a Victorian mathematician wrote a fairy tale that would go on to live parallel lives as one of the world's most beloved children's books and a modernist masterwork of philosophy that mushrooms its yield of wisdom with each reading — one of humanity's very few works, alongside perhaps Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man, which subtly and seamlessly fuse art, science, and philosophy.
Nearly a century later, in a 1961 lecture titled "Where Do We Go from Here," Marcel Duchamp prophesied that..
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This is the first of an occasional series highlighting Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland — 2015 marks 150 years since the book was…
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"It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then."
― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
"If everybody minded their own business, the world would go around a great deal faster than it does."
― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Stunning literary find: under the floorboards of a room at Christchurch College, Oxford, an electrician has found a manuscript thought to have been written by 'Lewis Carroll' (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson). Some of it is hard to decipher and it's clearly incomplete. Here's one passage:
"Come in,' said a woman in a loud voice.
Alice walked in to a large room at the Compartment of Edification.
Sitting in front of her, staring into the middle distance was the Blue Queen.
'How old are you?' said the Blue Queen.
'I'm seven years old,' said Alice politely.
Sitting next to the Queen was the Gibblet.
'Seven?' said the Gibblet, 'Seven? Test her.'
'Test her,' said…
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For my second post to commemorate the publication of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland 150 years ago, I give you ArtLark's article on Carroll and his photography. See Alice is at it Again #1 here. The title of this post has no connection to Lewis Carroll and his enchanting character but to the song by Noël Coward, which was the first thing that sprang to mind when I wrote that first post!
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On the 4th of July 1865, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland was published in London. Written by Victorian author Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (1832-1898) under the pseudonym Lewis Carroll, author, mathematician and Oxford don, this fantasy novel has since made him famous all over the world. Less known is the fact that Dodgson was also an avid and early practitioner of photography. He took it up in 1856, first under the influence of his uncle Skeffington Lutwidge, and later, his Oxford friend Reginald Southey.
In that first year, he made about 2,700 photographs, the last of which he finished in 1880. Half of these are photographic portraits of children, predominantly girls, while 30 percent are of adults and families. Overall, Dodgson produced a selection of self-portraits, group photographs, still lifes, landscapes, pictures of works of art, as well as featuring literary narratives and skeletons (including that of an anteater) and other props for anatomical studies. He even made a portrait of the Dodgson family doll, Tim. The majority of his surviving photos are in American collections, and 407 of those are at the Princeton University Library, which published a comprehensive album of them in 2002.
The incipient stage of photographic tools and techniques in the late 19th century gave Dodgson the inspiration for the imaginative…
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'Well! I've often seen a cat without a grin,' thought Alice; 'but a grin without a cat! It's the most curious thing I ever saw in my life!'
The Alice Collection: The Cheshire Cat Letterhead
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass (Bantam Classics)
This is the first of an occasional series highlighting Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland — 2015 marks 150 years since the book was first published.
The Alice Collection: Alice Telescoping Pack Of Chubby Business Cards
The title of this post has no connection to Lewis Carroll and his enchanting character but the song by Noël Coward was the first thing that sprang to mind!
Alice is At It Again! music & lyrics by Noël Coward
In a dear little village,
Remote and obscure
A beautiful maiden resided.
As to whether or not
Her intentions were pure,
Opinions were sharply divided.
She loved to lie
Out 'neath the darkening sky,
And allow the night breeze
To entrance her,
She whispered her dreams
To the birds flying by
But seldom received any answer.
Over the field and along the lane
Gentle Alice would love to stray.
When it came to the end of the day,
She would wander away,
Dreaming her innocent dreams she strode,
Quite unaffected by heat or cold,
Frequently freckled or soaked with rain,
Alice was out in the lane.
Who she met there
Every day
Was a question
Answered by none,
But she'd get there,
And she'd stay there,
'Til whatever she did
Was undoubtedly done.
Over the field and along the lane
Both her parents would call in vain,
Sadly, sorrowfully, they'd complain,
'Alice is at it again.'
Although that dear little village,
Surrounded by trees,
Had neither a school, nor a college,
Gentle Alice acquired
From the birds and the bees,
Some exceedingly practical knowledge.
The curious secrets that nature revealed,
She refused to allow to upset her,
But she thought,
When observing the beasts of the field,
That things might have been organised better.
Over the field and along the lane,
Gentle Alice would make up
And take up
Her stand.
The road was not exactly arterial,
But it led to a town nearby,
Where quite a lot of masculine material
Caught her rolling eye.
She was ready to hitchhike,
Cadillac or motorbike,
She wasn't proud or choosy.
All she
Was aiming to be
Was a pinked-up,
Fly-by-night floozy.
When old Rogers
Gave her pearls as large as
Nuts on a chestnut tree,
All she'd say was
The wages of sin will be the death of me!'
Over the field and along the lane,
Gentle Alice's parents
Would wait,
Hand in hand.
Her dear old white-headed mother,
Wistfully sipping champagne,
Said 'We've spoiled our child,
Spared the rod.
Open up the caviar and say "Thank God!"
We've got no cause to complain!
Alice is at it again!'
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ALICE was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister on the bank and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had peeped into the book her sister was reading, but it had no pictures or conversations in it, "and what is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or conversations?'
So she was considering, in her own mind (as well as she could, for the hot day made her feel very sleepy and stupid), whether the pleasure of making a daisy-chain would be worth the trouble of getting up and picking the daisies, when suddenly a White Rabbit with pink eyes ran close by her.
There was nothing so very remarkable in that; nor did Alice think it so very much out of the way to hear the Rabbit say to itself "Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be too late!" (when she thought it over afterwards it occurred to her that she ought to have wondered at this, but at the time it all seemed quite natural); but, when the Rabbit actually took a watch out of its waistcoat-pocket, and looked at it, and then hurried on, Alice started to her feet, for it flashed across her mind that she had never before seen a rabbit with either a waistcoat-pocket, or a watch to take out of it, and burning with curiosity, she ran across the field after it, and was just in time to see it pop down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.
In another moment down went Alice after it, never once considering how in the world she was to get out again.
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Oh, what fun I have had creating this collage! It has been a while since I've experimented with my various pieces of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Alice's Adventures Through the Looking Glass ephemera and it's been inspiring, satisfying and extremely therapeutic. A life in chaos, as mine is now, lends itself to thoughts of childhood in which Lewis Carroll's books and verses played an invaluable part in making me feel safe. Perhaps that's ironic considering her topsy-turvy experiences.
A background from Kerstin Frank, whose textures are works of art in themselves, was an exquisite starting point. The Alician elements are taken from a set of Carreras cigarette cards, which I bought some years ago at an antiques fair in Marlborough, Wiltshire, and have treasured ever since. Overlaying the background is a facsimile page from one of my 19th century copies of the Alice books (I can't lay my hands on them at the moment to check the publication date), which shows Carroll's original, handwritten first page of his story, which was then titled Alice's Adventures Underground. My great-grandmother started a tale in old age in which she wrote her own version called Alice's Adventures on The Underground! It is an intriguing premise and I've often thought I should carry on with the idea.
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It's another busy week, I've got my niece for the week doing her work experience with me, which I've been looking forward to. She's studying A Level art and is wanting to attend university this year studying art and then moving into art therapy. She wants to work with children and adults with learning difficulties. An area I've really enjoyed teaching in.
Anyway back to the pictures, last week I found two small compact little books and thought they would suit Alice in Wonderland because of their small size. These pics are of the first little assemblage I've done with the books. Hopefully I'll finish the other one tomorrow.
Sue Griffiths, the talented lady behind Messie Jessie, produces the most exquisite art assemblage pieces, often based on classic literature whether Gone with the Wind, Little Women or Wuthering Heights. Take a look — you'll be enchanted.
I envy her dexterity for had my fingers still been working properly, art assemblage is a craft I would have relished. As a child and a teenager, I was constantly busy making all manner of things which I hoped to sell. I covered notebooks in corduroy, baked clay adornments for necklaces or produced miniature theatres out of old cardboard.
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October 26th, 2018
EHFCN Open House hosted by EOPYY 18-20 October 2018
The 9th EHFCN Open House – the annual event during which a Member organisation of the European Healthcare Fraud and Corruption Network opens its doors for other members and invitees – was co-organized and hosted by the National Organization of Health Care Provision (EOPYY) in Athens (Greece) from 18-20th October 2018.
The conference was officially opened by Prof. Sotiris Bersimis, EOPYY's President. During the 1rst day of the Conference, the first conclusions of the EHFCN study on corruption within public health care services at local level were presented and innovative prevention and repression techniques against fraud in the public health care sector were shared by EHFCN experts.
During the 2nd day of the Conference, a special reference was made to the necessity for cooperation on a European level to combat fraud, waste and corruption in the health care sector. The speakers referred to the new methods of fraud (eg cybercrime), to the reasons that favor fraud (i.e. extensive waiting lists) and additionally to the role of Statistics to counter this scourge.
On the 3rd day of the Conference, a training course was organized (training day) in close co-operation with the Statistics Laboratory of the Statistics and Insurance Science Department of the University of Pireaus, on: "The techniques of fighting against fraud, corruption and waste in the public health care sector using statistical tools and data analysis".
In conclusion, the role of data analysis was designated as an effective treatment of phenomena of waste and corruption in the health care sector.
More than 80 participants from Greece and various European countries attended the Open House event and presentations were pronounced by distinguished speakers, representing European Organizations on Health Care Sectors and Directors of European and Greek auditing and inspection mechanisms.
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Les Cox (Sportifs) don't sound like they just released an album last week. They sound like they could have been born in the late 70's post punk scene. Their dissident noise accented by choppy rhythms, minimal crunchy guitar and Christopher Rollen's heavy accent makes me believe that they are the rightful heirs to the stolen chalice of arty lo-fi art school pop that Yummy Fur snagged from the Fall, Fire Engines and the first Modern Lovers record.
Scheiß Mit Reis is the first full length album from the Newcastle, UK band. It follows an eight song ep that came out two years ago on Stop Looking and a 7″ single last year on Clunk Click. Each release has seen the band progress. Last year's Total Straightness single was ace, especially the A-side The Hand and the Heep and Scheiß Mit Reis sees the band continuing with a full head of steam. The Cox (can I say that?) can get downright silly with songs like God Vor Domma and the title track. The former sees them employ Adam Sandler accents to somewhat amusing effect while the latter ends with the punch line: But I don't like rice!. Then there is the song C.O.A.S.T.A.L.M.O.T.H.E.R.F.U.C.K.E.R which in some alternate reality is the hit of the summer with kids blasting it out of their parent's minivans as they wait for the red light to change as Les Cox spell it out.
It isn't all shits and giggles with these smarmy art school boys. John E Millais is a story song about the English painter reminiscent of Johnny Horton and Dead Beat Formula deconstructs, dismantles, and kills rock n' roll and then realizes that all that isn't quite necessary as Bo Diddley shows them the light. Mixing Up the Cordite is an anti-war and anti-establisment song commenting on the current and past geopolitical ignorance of the masses that enable governments to wage wars in far off places to general apathy with lines like Well I hear there's a war on in a country I don't know, and Well, I couldn't care less who wins the war. The songs are played in a rudimentary minimalistic way and if you don't pay close attention you could easily assume that it's one goofy art school joke after the next, but scratch the surface and it becomes much more. It's only the middle of the year, but I can safely say Scheiß Mit Reis will be in my year end top ten.
mp3: Les Cox (Sportifs) – Dead Beat Formula (order up a hard copy of Scheiß Mit Reis from Sea Records or go digital)
mp3: Les Cox (Sportifs) – John E Millais
A little background:
mp3: Johnny Horton – Jim Bridger (from Greatest Hits)
mp3: The Fall – Rollin' Dany (from This Nation's Saving Grace)
mp3: Minutemen – The Big Stick (from 3-way Tie for Last)
mp3: Fire Engines – Meat Whiplash (from Hungry Beat)
mp3: Modern Lovers – Government Center (from The Modern Lovers)


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Where Is the Love? Students Eschew Campus Romance
Like many campuses, Purdue University has some traditional hot spots for romance -- "The Old Pump," where couples used to meet after dark, and a bell tower known as a lucky place to propose marriage.
But engineering major Amy Penner has been so busy volunteering with a women's engineering group and planning her career that she's only dimly aware of them. Her boyfriend has left campus to get a doctorate overseas; asked how much time she spends dating, she says, "That would be zero."
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Remember the movie "Love Story" and its star-crossed student lovers? Such torrid campus romances may be becoming a thing of the past. College life has become so competitive, and students so focused on careers, that many aren't looking for spouses anymore.
Replacing college as the top marital hunting ground is the office. Only 14% of people who are married or in a relationship say they met their partners in school or college, says a 2006 Harris Interactive study of 2,985 adults; 18% met at work. That's a reversal from 15 years ago, when 23% of married couples reported meeting in school or college and only 15% cited work, according to a 1992 study of 3,432 adults by the University of Chicago.
Gone are the days when sororities and dorms marked engagements with candle-passing ceremonies while men serenaded beneath the windows.
Even at tradition-steeped Transylvania University, a 228-year-old institution in Lexington, Ky., an old white ash called "The Kissing Tree," cited in 2003 by the Chronicle of Higher Education as one of the most romantic spots on campuses, is no longer an "icon of intimacy," says Richard Thompson, a longtime Transylvania professor and dean. Lucie Hartmann, 21, a senior, says "no one utilizes" the spot for romance; like most students, she's intent on "using college to set a foundation for a career."
Researchers cite a couple of factors. Young adults are delaying marriage, for one thing. In the past 15 years, men's median age at first marriage has risen by 1.2 years to 27.5, and by 1.4 years for women, to 25.5, the highest in more than a century, Census Bureau data show.
Also at work is "credential inflation" -- an increase in the qualifications required for many skilled jobs, says Janet Lever, a sociology professor at California State University, Los Angeles. Many young adults want the flexibility to relocate freely and immerse themselves in new work and educational opportunities before making room for marriage and family. As a result, students favor "light relationships that aren't going to compromise where they go to grad school or which job they take," she says.
Cody Cheetham, 22, a Purdue senior, is looking for a marketing job after she graduates in May and plans on getting an MBA. "A lot of us don't even know where we're going to be living six months after we graduate," she says. "We don't want to bring another person into the chaos of our lives."
If you're a parent, as I am, you may be wondering what all this means. Such sordid campus-life portrayals as Tom Wolfe's "I Am Charlotte Simmons" aside, the news about students' social lives isn't all bad. To be sure, the "hookup culture" -- the campus trend toward casual sexual behavior, usually linked with alcohol and no expectations of a continuing relationship -- is rife. Some 76% of college students have engaged in hookups, which usually stop short of intercourse, according to a study of 4,000 students by Stanford University sociology professor Paula England. Students report having had an average 6.9 hookups and only 4.4 traditional dates by their senior year.
On the bright side, more students are having fun on group dates; also, deep, but platonic, male-female friendships are more common.
Many young adults return to traditional dating after graduation, says Kathleen Bogle, author of a new book, "Hooking Up," based on a study of 76 students and recent alumni. Young adults "want to find a quality person, a good person," to marry, says Ms. Bogle, an assistant sociology professor at La Salle University in Philadelphia, "and traditional dating is seen as a better way to do that" than hooking up.
With the benefit of hindsight, though, some grads may yearn for the stretches of time on campus for extracurricular activities and studying with the opposite sex. Julia Vasiliauskas broke up with her boyfriend at the University of Rochester in New York soon after her 2003 graduation, then went to grad school and began teaching near Seattle. Now that she feels ready, at 26, to find a partner, "I regret that I didn't find that person in college -- because now that I'm working, I don't have time."
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