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/ZTG/ - Zootopia General: Softly Snoozing EditionPastebin: pastebin.com/iYDU8g2T Thread journal Backup: https://pastebin.com/GiLL5kAS ZTG Creator List: derpy.me/ztgcclistArchives: www.ztarchive.com / desuarchive.org / archive.b-stats.orgPrevious thread: https://archive.b-stats.org/trash/thread/12579279Previous thread: http://www.ztarchive.com/trash/thread/12579279Previous thread: http://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/12579279Current TT Theme: Spy Story (Submissions are due Nov. 23)More information on TT: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdaysTT Archive: t3event.tumblr.comTT Pastebin: pastebin.com/gudYsYHL
Rose is the best
>>12586059True dat
>>12586059She really is a good skunker.
I just saw spy story won TTWho's doing one?
>>12586123That's pretty damn rad.
>>12586146I've got some greens I'm writing - nothing too major.First TT contribution though.
Ugh I'm so lazy to get ready for bedJust wanna sleep here
>>12586172Awesome anon! We wi be looking forward to it
>Spy Story wonHo boy, time for another TT where something pertaining to once character which people already do wins>That and it isn't a Thanksgiving one when Thanksgiving falls on fucking TT
Mead said he's going to post a new project soonI'm looking forward to itI think he's going to be going for feels this time
>>12586071But is she lewd?
>>12586196NICK IS DEAD when?
>>12586185>complains about low creativity-topic being picked for TT>in the same post complains that a low-creativity topic was not automatically picked"Uh, a spy TT? Everybody is going to do something about Jack, probably.""Ugh, a Thanksgiving TT? Everybody's going to do something about Thanksgiving dinner, probably."
sometimes I have this sort of psychic ability. For a while now, I've been feeling like a new Zootopia story is going to come out, in the vein of Pack street.Prove me right anon.
>>12586228Let's also bear in mind that some CCs aren't from the USA, so a Thanksgiving TT doesn't mean the same to them, as opposed to a Halloween or Christmas TT.
>>12586067You really need a greedy ardvark for a villain... you've already got a rad theme song.
i fall into the eternal peanut sleep friendsbe good to each other
>>12586295Goodnight bunner
Need moar lynxes
I love it when ztg posts make me laugh out loud
>>12586288I fail to get the reference.
>>12586312We have a coffee lynx, he's pretty cute dude. Got himself a rad pupper gf too!>>12586327Laughing is good Anon, always!
>>12586358Sorry, old TV show called The Raccoons. https://youtu.be/h6Zf_lnulDA the weird looking villain was an ardvark. I should really get to sleep, night yall!
>>12586395Bah. Must be late for me not to get it.Better turn in my Canadian license.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c7m-EhQhFU
>>12586395Gnite bunner
Gnite ztgUr the best
Maybe I should cry for helpMaybe I should kill myself
>>12586312We have a CC with a lynx zoosona now, if I remember correctly.
>>12586522Go see a fucking therapist
>>12586522please don'tplease don'tplease don'tplease don'tplease don't
>>12586522Maybe you should buy a dragon dildo.
Tell me about gay
>>12586522Depression has a p r e t t y g o o d treatment outlook. Whether or not it's caused by something external. Probably one of the most treatable mental problems without involving drugs at all, next to phobias and conversion disorders.
This okapi should be lewded more.
Big honey for drawpile
>>12587352Jeez, big Honey is right. What a cutie.
>>12587406Businessmammal/Secretary Judy does strang things to me
>>12587406>A hot secretary like her would never work for youWhy even live
It's okay to be white.
[Heavy breathing]
>"new" page of Mystic Tantra goes up on FA>it's the Bonnie cuck page>suddenly the cracks are beginning to show to the average furry>actual complaints and criticism in the commentsHey, might be some hope for them yet>whiteknights in the comments>doing it for freeI retract my hope
>>12586480https://twitter.com/1015_zi/status/804324556286541824>pic related
>>12587594>Still following this comic
>>12587749I see it show up in recent submissions, I get curious to see the reactions of the FagAffinity/e621 users
>>12587559A bunny in a natural pose.
Just the two of us.
I know, I'm running late.
Nevermind, it's just me now. Cozy.>>12588024Nice draw.
>>12588001We can make it if we try.
I want to fuck Inky's fat pig butt.
>>12588071Just the two of us.
>>12588081i'm here too.Let's try a small disscusion, given that in zootopia there are nocturnal and diurnal mammals,does that mean the city is always busy with activity 24/7?
>>12588052I remember those days...
>Zootopian sport teams
>>12588103That's kind of a moot question. Real cities never sleep Anon.
>>12588103There are cities in the human world that are like that.So yeah.
>>12588103I'd think so.
Sorry, Japanese-content-finder-anon, I didn't realize how busy I'd be all day. I'll try to get a lot more done tomorrow once I have time, which hopefully should be a moderately reasonable hour. To compensate in the meantime, here are quick summaries of everything posted so far>>12586389>>12587748>Nick called Judy upset again and it russled her jimmies>>12587769>>12587776>>12587784>Nick needs Judy's help cleaning, gives her as kiss as a reward>>12587792>Nick talks down about himself since he's older than Judy; she's having none of it>>12587803I think someone's already translated this, but>Judy sees how wide his mouth can stretch, then talks about how she likes how he wags his tail when he's happy
>>12588135Whoops>>12587748>Nick called Judy CUTE again and it russled her jimmies
>>12588135>>12588145Awesome. Goodnight, TB.
>>12588135Bonne nuit, TB
>>12588120>>12588126>>12588129i'm just tring to make the thread a little lively with some chatting, but i think i'm way too ambiguous,just bored in a slow day, sorry if i'm bothering
>>12588290nice flower
One more reshill for this... thing I made
>>12588297sure, flower>sure
>>12588299Missed opportunity If he'd had a teeny Afro that was completely dwarfed by a majestic mane
>>12588335I'm not sure how I would have gone about drawing that. You can probably see from the drawing, but I'm not really good at drawing hair.
>>12588360Draw hair more to get better at it, it's ok!
>>12588103That Zootopia is a 24/24 city is easy to see, just from being a metropolitan city.More interesting, in my opinion, would be to see when the districts are busy.Meadowlands gives the idea of a farm-like district, getting up soon and going to bed soon.The Rainforest district seems to be deserted or with little activity in the middle of the night (when Manchas becomes savage), so it's probably diurnal. Same for Tundratown, but because of the cold.Sahara Square and Savanna Central are probably two alternating sides of the same coin, pulsating with a diurnal and nocturnal life, more nocturnal for Sahara Square and more diurnal for Savanna Central.
>>12588324ssshh, you cannot let the preds know
>>12586199she only has a green, knee-length sweater on and nothing else
>>12588642Sounds comfy
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Allow your mind to be a kind and gentle place, from which even the smallest ideas can find life.I love all of you so much.
In zootopia you can be anything.I want to be a pessimist.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12711244/1/Never-Mess-With-a-FoxFox in the hen house is doing a sequel to 'never argue with a bunny' called 'Never Mess With a Fox', he promised there will be no relationship drama (as their relationship has already been established) and the story so far seems to be interesting (at least to me), anyone got some thoughts on this?
>ded hours
>>12588946Considering their other stories, I feel that they are going to keep that promise of no "relationship drama" (though I would hope of some growth of their relationship). I do think that they are starting to have too many stories going at once.
>>12589206>I would hope of some growth of their relationshipIt would be nice if it develops in some way, not that I have any idea in what way it should grow>I do think that they are starting to have too many stories going at onceI reckon it's still fine, Fox in the hen house seems to be pretty good with updating chapters regularly and even as they've added more stories they've managed to keep most of them updating on a 3 weeks to monthly basis.
>>12588807That's a good lil ol motto to live with sure but even small ideas can find life inside a fucked up hostile mind.The mind itself should never be kind and gentle, the mind should be a chaotic mess is what i say, that's the true mind of a creative person, at least if you're looking to following a creative path in life. You see, it's from that chaos that you can make anything, be it nice, lewd, angry, fucked up, kind, weird, and you will see, in the end, you'll never run out of ideas. Some slumps, sure, but never run fully out of ideas.Still, we love you too my dude.
i'm not grilling yoiu a cheese
Hello /ztg/! Have some updates on the OP pastebin. Added new fanfics, the comics "Branch" and a new one that Zhan's is making, and the zootopia fan-made games this community made.And ALL the fanfics are COMPLETELY TAGGED now!!! took me a few months, but the job is done. Now the only thing left to do is to add entries and submit common questions to the F.A.Q. Thanks to everyone who submitted, thanks Pastebun for helping me tagging, and thanks /ztg/ for the opportunity.So remember, if you wanna add a new fanfic, just reply using this format:>[title]: [description][Author]>[tags]>[link]
>>12589691Nicely done HG, we greatly appreciate it!
>>12589691Holy shit HC, job well done.
oh boy ,oh boy ,oh boy!I can't wait for Zootopia to be popular!just imagine: shorts ,comics ,books ,toys ,plushies ,merchandise!
>>12589637Finaly, another person who enjoys the chaos and disaster that can be a mind.Yeah you need some order and discipline to develop the ideas, but they would never be so varied or colorfull if you never included some of the mess.Have a nice weekend everyone
>>12588946My attempt at conversation got one response and that honestly means something to me (that says quite a lot about me). Anyway, its 1:50 am and I got my last two exams in a couple days so I'm going to bed and I'll be away from the thread for about four days so I can focus on study. I promise I'll work on my TT and do some requests when I return. Good Night ZTG.
>>12590043Good night and study well koalaer
>>12590043Don't worry KNL, it's dead hours.Anyway sweet dreams little koala, good luck with physics
>>12590114>noon on a Saturday is dead hoursIt's about time we stop making these threads.
>>12590142How big of a sad reject do you have to be to spend prime time on a weekend in a niche thread to entertain other miscreants?
>>12590167not him but in here it's very early in the morning so everything is quite empty and everyone asleep
>>12590229yeah I just woke up, who gets up early on a fuckin saturdaybuns rule, preds drool
>>12590262Sounds like it's time for a bunishin'
>>12590262Me.I always wake up early even if it's dark, granted i also tend to scare everyone when they see a "living shadow"Also all mammals are cool, don't be rude with the ones who have a sharp tooth
>>12590341you fool, I've already seized the armory! your threats of bunishment are hallow! i shall become a bun like unto god!
>>12590341they are getting slutty again so do a double
>>12590368I am pleasantly surprised that it's not the Cheeto version.
>>12590368>it's not ring ringthank you rabbit jesus
>>12590367I thought those were long food pellets for a moment there
>>12590380How did the cheeto one came to be anyway?
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>>12590367Then I'll just lewd you.
>>12590416I like that Nick in the top right. It burns so good.
>>12590409that was during britney's meltdown iirc
>>12590417I'll be good.
>>12590416this is in desperate need of mead lewds
>>12590450I doubt that.
>>12590437A little context please?
Anons, have any of you tried a bit of worldbuilding with Zootopia? Did it involve your zoosona, or was it more general in nature?
0-2: I plan a suicide in case I decide to stop living with stress.3-10: I play vidya.
>>12590591Britney Spears? Remember her? Kevin Federline knocks her up? Ringing any bells?
>>12590640Well shit.
>>12590573so is rikuo officially back to Zootopia
>>12590640Here's your plan: have sex non-stop for several days until your heart stops.Now play some vidya you dingus.
>>12590625Yes but i'm not a cc and am a little afraid to go autism overboard
>>12590625>Anons, have any of you tried a bit of worldbuilding with Zootopia?Yes!>Did it involve your zoosona, or was it more general in nature?I've done both at different times. It was extremely fun, especially when the thread got involved.
>>12590625I've had an idea for a short story with my zoosona but haven't really hammered out the details. Mostly it would be him explaining, on a slow night, to Nick and Judy why the establishment he works at was started in the first place, involving the interspecies love movement and stuff. I half wanna do it just because the faggot who invented Trish wants an excuse to reeeee at an OC of my making
>>12590673They seem to be doing half Zoot stuff and half Undertale.
>>12590680CCs going full autism sometimes. At least you don't have the weight of an identity too go with a mistake
>>12590761Thanks for making me feel better, but i'm afraid that everyone will hate the idea if i do then not make anything to avoid the shitstorm
>>12590820Why don't you propose your idea privately to comic?
>>12590690>especially when the thread got involvedTell me more, anon.>>12590706Where does he work?
>>12590625CC here. It's probably one of my favorite things to do. Climate engineering, multi-scale living, the Zootopia art scene, organized crime - it's all really interesting to explore.No zoosona, but I do make some OCs.
>>12590625I try in every TT.
>>12590877Falke, is that you?
>>12590836don't have discord>>12590690>>12590857now that i think about it, aren't you the anon with the tubedude living in a wall near the climate wall
>>12590889In the pixels
>>12590912>now that i think about it, aren't you the anon with the tubedude living in a wall near the climate wallYes! God damn that was a good guess.
>>12590857Down at Riverside. A theme bar called Collar On, originally constructed as a save haven for interspecies couples, now just a kinda kinky theme place though still popular with their original audience.
>>12590957do you contribute anything? genuine question. discord tag says you're an artist, but ive never seen anything (at least that i can remember) except your forced meme sona.
>>12590944I knew it was you when you mentioned thread interactivity.Were you a weasel or a stoat?can't remember
>>12590882Do you vary your methods of worldbuilding, or do you prefer to perfect one method?>>12590915How have you been?>>12590969Sounds interesting. I want to hear more of the history behind that bar.
>>12590640>suicideHey me too! My plan is years of junk food and excessive masturbation.It'll take a while but I'm in no hury.
>>12590957>>12590974GIMMIE DAT LICCAND ALSO THE DICK>>12591001>Were you a weasel or a stoat?can't rememberI'm a Marten. Unusually small and kind of weird, but not too bad of a neighbor. My door can be used as a glory hole if I'm in the mood!
>>12591007I'm doing pretty good. A little busier and a little less motivated than usual, but I'm hoping it's just a phase. I want to use my new years' break to start planning a new story in earnest.
>>12591177>checkedI see. I wish you the best of luck, then.
>>12591007>Do you vary your methods of worldbuilding, or do you prefer to perfect one method?I prefer implicit worldbuilding that does not directly rely on the movie canon, but still reasonable in the world of Zootopia. This gives me the most flexibility without attempting to rewrite history, or run afoul of a sequel, and seems to be the most respectful approach.For example, instead of re-working the BugBurga Nick/Finnick meeting location that was scrapped from the original movie, I would choose instead to explore the idea of why there is only one protein source fast food chain left in the city.
>>12591049>My door can be used as a glory hole if I'm in the mood!That seems like it would be hell on the furnishings. I'm picturing a dick shoved through a door, a terrible crash, and then a tiny marten voice screaming "My fine china!"
>>12591049Have you ever considered admitting yourself into a loving Yeen home for lewd tubes?
>>12590976In recent terms, I drew this in one of the drawpiles, along with a pic of judy in a sweater (which people mistook for violet,) and a pic of a silver fox OC of mine named Margarette.Other than that, I used to draw quite a bit. I have an arctic fox named Mackenzie who is supposed to be a hitman for Mr. Big. I also have a socially awkward polar bear named Pete.Those and countless other random Nick and Judy pics (and some zoosonas)
>>12590625Try to do it in my fics in small ways but I'm not the best at it
>>12591295Please do not use the Cuckberg Times to bunish, it is the most demeaning of all periodicals.
>>12591049>glory hole house>thirst for dick>hook up with a guy in a cafeTubedudes are indeed lewd, you and NAH would make a great couple
>>12591236>prefer implicit worldbuilding that does not directly rely on the movie canon, but still reasonable in the world of Zootopia.Same here, really, and for all the points you've said. It's the best at portraying Zootopia as a city, with all its variation and so on.Not much else I can say to that.
>>12591295>I have an arctic fox named MackenzieI remember when you used to post her constantly like you were trying to shitpost or force a meme
>>12591268It's not so bad if they only put the tip in, which is the most sensitive part anyway. I do spend a lot of time showering though. And cleaning my walls.>But I want tube using my dick like a stripper pole!Invite me over then. It's not like I'm going to say no!>>12591281I already have a home! And it comes with nearby dick!>>12591335>Tubedudes are indeed lewdOf course they are! Just ask A_Sig!
>>12591404>Of course they are! Just ask A_Sig!Be carefull now, you are going to awake the wrath of the mongoose
>>12591404>I do spend a lot of time showering though. So it's glory hole -and- a urinal? That's convenient.
>>12591454Angry sex is best sex.
>>12591397Yeah. Looking back on that I was really just being an annoying prick, my justification being that if weaver and chumpy could do it (they didn't) I could too.
>>12590625I tried to do a comic involving the Oasis a while back but I didn't get past more than a few thumbnails sadly
>>12591605Would you try your hand at writing out that idea instead?
>>12591295More Maggie would be good to see in how she lives in that world
>>12591605Weaver? Are you talking about Undecover exposure? I was wondering how that would've gone. But I guess it wasn't a wildehopps story and now seeing Zaush's shitty overmeme-d comic get so much dislike from us I bet the outrage over another none WildeHopps Oasis comic would be huge...
>>12591755These aren't really thumbnails, anon
>>12591784Sorry, just wanted to ask.Many seem to have this block with this setting.
When you get down to is, Zaush is no worse than Weaver.
>>12591892You're still here?
>>12591892Weaver doesn't have a cuck fetish.
>>12591755Those hips have their own gravitational pull, goddamn.
>>12591952If you say so.
>>12592020I don't see any cucking here.
>>12592034She isn't fucking her husband.
>>12592045The husband who's probably dead?
>>12592045You can't cuck a corpse, anon.
>>12592050Or is just as probably still alive.Not that that matters, she's still fucking someone else.
>>12592069At this point I don't think you understand what cucking is. If she's not married to him anymore--which is very likely considering it's heavily implied that Nick grew up in a one-parents household--it's not infidelity.
>>12591892Weaver makes lighthearted humorous multi-ending comics that explore the characters in different life-like situations and does it with respecting those characters and his audience.You, Zaush, used the look of famous characters and demolished them to a state where they are not just artificially sexually deviant but also have no redeemable quality left in them, as their motives and personality are all switched out with something. And you do all this out of some bitter spite that your girlfriend left you for a friend of yours, so now you have to portray all girls as slutty hornball who just want the bigger dick, and boys as assholes who have no concept of the "golden-rule".
>>12592095>it's heavily impliedLiterally no evidence of that.Fathers typically work to support their families, it makes sense that he wouldn't always be around.
>>12591637I actually did have a pretty complete script. Would be fun to turn it into prose if I ever regained the will for it.
>>12591892Weaver didn't draw a full color cuck comic
>>12592104>women aren't in everything for themselves>women don't like assholesNice guys never finish in a pussy.
>>12592095It's 4chan. "Cucking" is defined as "anything other than my OTP".
>>12592125It was his mom that scraped together the money to get him the Ranger Scout outfit, and his father is never mentioned. Byron and Rich both said that until otherwise stated, he's not in the picture.
>>12591755>But I guess it wasn't a wildehopps story and now seeing Zaush's shitty overmeme-d comic get so much dislike from us I bet the outrage over another none WildeHopps Oasis comic would be huge...Personally, I don't mind the non-WildeHopps factor, as long as it is only one of them in the picture and it doesn't turn into a complete "Nick or Judy take a hundred dicks" thing. Like, Judy being completely embarrassed by her own nudity, everyone's nudity, and her possible arousal at the exposure would be hilarious. And if she did, at some point, fuck someone during the comic, the key would be slow development over time towards that result, rather than Zaush's "Judy is freaking out and shy, and then immediately hops on two dicks within three pages".
>>12592166>t. cuck
Not cucking.
>>12592193Jokes on you, my OTP is "any bunny/the nearest cock".
>>12592195>NTRAlso a good reason to kill yourself.
>>12592140Well, I hope that will revisits you someday.
>weaver>not into cucking
>>12592104> does it with respecting those characters Our opinions might differ but I'd argue that Weaver's Nick and Judy are pretty much OOC. Not sure how that's respecting the characters?
>>12592245It isn't, he's a blind fanboy.
>>12592243>that>cuckingHis nick and judy are just fuckbudies.
It's not cucking if the characters are never clearly defined as being in a relationship.
>>12592243>weaver>not into lewding himself
>>12592243That's just a threesome Anon...
>>12592266"""HIS JUDY AND NICK"""He doesn't own the characters.
>>12592286A threesome with Judy cucking Nick.
>>12592289"His take on Judy and Nick"Jesus man quit being deliberately obtuse. You are frothingly mad at Weaver for no reason and follow him from fandom to fandom and thread to thread. We get it, we just don't agree with you.
>>12592306>Judy fucks them before her first day on the jobYou really do think cucking means "not my OTP", don't you.
>>12592289As in his interpretation of them. Judy never even interacted with thing1&2 in the movie beyond a one-sided "hi" and a punchline. Sorry, sperg, but you're reaching pretty far for this one.Also zaush did at least two comics with actual cucking in them, and has a patreon to fund them. He's on a way lower level.
God bless 4chan x.
>>12592329Weaver has a patreon too., to support his cuck, incest, pedophilia, and rape art.He makes less, though, since his art isn't anywhere near as good.
>>12592334Anon, do you like stubs?
>>12592334>not having the Gideon picture filtered also
>>12592334>not filtering gideonMan that's some shit taste
>>12592364I'll be honest and say I don't precisely know what you're referring to when you say 'stubs'.>>12592366>>12592375Piefox is shit but at least he's on topic.
>They're just fuckbuddies
>>12592245>>12592259>blind fanboyreally am not, but I don't recall anything to be OOC in any of his actual story narrated comics
>>12592393On topic doesn't excuse shit taste. I can dump Mystic Tantra and still be on-topic, doesn't mean I didn't just dump shit.
The great thing about /ztg/ is that you can make it as painfully obvious as possible that you're blatantly shitposting and idiots will still respond to you
Is it Gideon or Judeon that's hated?
So is the sperg the pink rabbit autist from the drawthreads? Because they both seem to start posting at the same time.
>>12592424Probably both to be honest.
>>12592403https://e621.net/post/index/1/the_weaver%20judy_hoppsHere's some good examples.
>>12592393Stubs. Those things that show up after you've chosen to hide something. Do you like seeing those?
>>12592435>>12592444I can understand the hate for Judeon, but why exactly is Gideon hated? Didn't he get his shit together and apologize?
>>12592457Oh. I mean, I prefer to see them than have the hidden post be completely hidden, so I at least know something (stupid) is going on.
>>12592455Cool story bro
>>12592474People just hate chubby guys.
>>12592474Literally just as a consequence of Judeon getting shitposted so hard in the early days.
>>12592497Nick is so cute in this picture
>>12591755> Weaver, non WildeHopps Oasis comic.There was a second part to this comic (it came out well before the Zaush rubbish), that has a fairly innocent ending.Can't find second part..
>>12592474I'm a shallow fuck, I think his hair looks stupid so I don't like him.
>>12592474>apologizing for tramutazing, injuring Judy and badmouting her entire family as "dumb carrot-farmers" after 15 yearsTo be fair I don't hate him. I just don't like him either
>>12592495I'm curious. When this happens, does the fact that your filter is working as intended bring you pleasure? What kind of pleasure does it bring? How much?
>>12592538It had? Welp, hell I thought it was just abondoned/put aside for something else.Would like to see it though.
>>12592474He's still an asshole.>Piggyback off the success of the parents of that girl you assaulted when you were younger>Don't bother apologizing until she's literally in your face fifteen years later and you can't avoid it
>>12592543It's an attentionwhore thing. It's not enough to have shitposts blocked, he needs to let people know that he's blocking them. It's dumb.
>>12592542I don't think she's got to see him for that long, so I think he's been holding on to that apology too with the way he reacts when he hears her and blurts that out as the first thing.He's not my favorite either, but I relate with being a different person than I was as a kid.
>>12592474He's mainly just a poor plot device. Need a something to show Judy early on the divide between preds and prey and the challenges she'll have to overcome? Gideon. Need a way for Judy to solve the savage mammal problem? Gideon.
>>12592424Honestly, I don't mind Gideon himself. I don't think he is a particularly interesting character, aside from what possibly made him go to therapy and his transition during that time. After that, he is just the whole "old dumb bully who turned around and is kind of sweet, though still dumb" guy. Judeon, however, I really don't like at all. I am all for people shipping whoever they want together, even if the ships themselves make no sense whats so ever. But Judeon is up there with SavageHopps in how it usually ends up being "Nick is sad because he didn't get the bunny pussy, but Gideon and Judy are happy so fuck him. SET SAIL SHIP JUDEON!" And the few times that they try to focus on just the pairing itself, without bringing Nick into it, they are so bland that I could just replace Gideon with Nick and it is the same exact shit. There is no interesting dynamic between Judy and Gideon that is theirs, and sometimes it comes off as creepy. I remember there was a story that had Judy view the scratch Gideon gave her when they were nine as "a piece of him that she could keep with her at all times, and she could look at him any time she wanted". And I just thought, what the fucking hell am I reading?
Big thumper xddd
>>12592474Yeah, there's definitely a link between my like/dislike of Gideon and Judeon. The more Judeon I see, the less I want to see Gideon in general. That's just how I am, I guess.
>>12592403Sloshed fox was fine. Drunk friend crashes on a friend's bed and she realizes there's something there.BSP was less fine. It requires some extrapolating about how bunny sexuality works and how open Judy is about that sort of thing. It is, I should note, the sort of "bunnies are casual/polygamous" take that these threads ree at most of the time. Nick's reaction was believable. Late stake was super OOC. Two on duty cops who actually valued their jobs and responsibilities the way we see Nick and Judy do in the film would simply not do what we saw them do in that comic. Full stop. Porn for the sake of porn, sure, whatever. Calling it any kind of deeper character narrative is disingenuous.
>>12592619>scratch Gideon gave her>a piece of him that she could keep with her at all timesholy shit that is like the exact opposite how I (and most possibly any normal person) thinks about that scar.Gideon literally says that it should be a reminder that she never can be more than a dumb carrot farming bunny.If anything Judy sees it as a constant reminder of it that she has to prove people wrong. A motivation but not a fond bond like thing at all.
Judy rubs her scar while masturbating.
>>12590563i want nick, while dressed up in that, to aggressively pin me down and frot me
Y'know it's funny, I'm pretty sure there's absolutely no evidence in the movie that Gideon's scratch even scarred.
>>12592701her fur probably covers it up
>>12592245I tend to see Weaver's use of the characters as an extrapolation of their canon roles, as opposed to Zaush's use, which is just an abuse of a drawing.
>>12592701It's there.
>>12592655wow, it's like we have the super opposite opinionI thought sloshed fox was what streched the line with it being a bit of an AU where Nick didn't become a cop after the case (after all it looks like they are not in constant connection as partners).As for Late Stake's OOC-ness, the entire movie was riddles with unprofesional police work, it what makes the narrative life-like. Judy and Nick as chracters are not defined by how well they are doing their jobs, and by what we see they are lighthearted and playful during job. Being lustful after 7 hours of mind-numbing waiting for a suspect to show up without result... I don't see this as OOC:
>>12592516Sounds suspicious.>>12592520A form of hatred by association. Makes sense.>>12592541I see.>>12592561Do we know how recently he went through that whole transformation period?>>12592589That's understandable. I guess something had to be sacrificed to easily set up a plot.>>12592619I agree, they don't have anything to work with. I'm kinda disappointed that no one's focused on a story where Gid just wants to patch things up, even though they'll rationally never be friends.>>12592645I see.
>>12592757>judy's canon role is a slutOK
>>12592561If he really was an asshole he would've simply not apologized.
>>12592759I'm pretty sure you've posted this before but I literally don't see a thing.
>>12592790And lose out on the partnership with Judy's parents?
>>12592772Are you a bored psych/anthro grad student?
>>12592759I'm not seeing it
>>12592772>even though they'll rationally never be friendsI'd actually like to see this some more. Every story I see just has Judy suddenly being friends with Gideon because he said sorry. I think it'd be interesting to see a story where she doesn't hold it against him anymore but really just isn't particularly interested in getting to know him.
>>12592819Oh shit, is this from the "The Other" art show?
>>12592834Dunno. Here's some tubes.
>>12592855Yeah, that's from Beth Cavaner Stichter's newest show- I would love to see these in real life.
>>12592701Considering the stupid amount of detail in the movie, I am sure that if they wanted to keep that physical reminder they would have. Unless A) they didn't have time to mess with the adult Judy model they have had for so damn long or B) they wanted to go with the whole "the damage was internal rather than external" idea. Having the scar would make Judy constantly remember the incident; instead she is traumatized but thinks she moved on from it when she actually didn't. >>12592759I don't see it.>>12592772>I'm kinda disappointed that no one's focused on a story where Gid just wants to patch things up, even though they'll rationally never be friends.I'd liked to see something like this; it is kind of awkward to see Judy being so friendly with Gideon in a lot of stories when, realistically, she wouldn't have spent much time with him even after he apologizes. They would be more of acquaintances rather than friends, and not really be hanging out that often.
>>12592808In that case he probably wouldn't be working with them to begin with lolI wouldn't say he's piggybacking either considering him and Stu and Bon clearly came to some kind of agreement and reciprocation
>>12592655>Two on duty cops who actually valued their jobs and responsibilities.You're forgetting human nature anon, also they actually state that in the comic.As I said, I don't find Weaver's usage to be blatantly OOC, but an extrapolation of their characters, but done in a comedic sense.
>>12592809No. Why do you ask?
>>12592564Is that what this line of questioning is about? I thought somebody was just perving in a really novel way.Frankly I'm kind of disappointed.
>>12592932There was someone in the thread a while ago who confirmed they were using arguments from this thread as part of a dissertation/research project of some kind, and your responses were close to theirs.
>giving a fuck about Weaver>giving a fuck about Zaush>giving a fuck about Judeon>giving a fuck about cuckoldryJust filter all that bullshit.
>>12592924Gideon's their bull.
>folks acting like Gid is unforgivable when ppl IRL have forgiven one another for far far worse shit.maybe yall are just weak lol
>>12592969It's the only social interaction I have that I remotely care about.I live in the middle of nowhere-ville where people discuss politics and crops all the time
>>12592969>giving a fuck about cuckoldrysomeone need to give a fuck, not you i guess.haha cuck jokes!but for real he's right just ignore, it's easier that way
>>12592991That is profoundly sad, anon. Holy fuck, find other hobbies.
>>12592989Or maybe, just maybe, I simply want to hold your hand.
Judy deserves a good, loving fox husband like Gideon.Plus he's got a huge cock.
>>12593049>he's a huge cookftfy. Gideon deserves a bunny of his own, sure. But not Judy. She's too tied into the whole city life thing to really settle down with a country fox like him. Gid needs a cute little lop-eared sweatheart, not some hair-trigger hare.
>>12592991You live in Podunk?Sorry anon, couldn't resist.
>>12592989Honestly, I don't hate Gideon, I just absolutely don't care about him. He's not interesting to me. >>12593049>foxJust stop already. Gideon is a foxlet at most, and he looks like hasn't seen his dick in a while under that blob of fat.
>>12593049But anon.. what about Travis!
>>12593010I mean... I watch bunch of tv shows and play videogames...
>>12593049>Plus he's got a huge cock.You mean baker
>>12593049gideon can have violet if he wants.he needs a therapist anyway
Someone post that "Dear Delilah" green screencap from last thread. forgot to save it.
>>12593049Judy deserves a husband who will support her, keep up with her at all times, teach her all about her new home, challenge her intellectually, teach her to slow down, help her with her career, has the stamina to keep up with her in bed, isn't fat, and has a bigger dick. In other words, Nick.
>>12593135>has a bigger dickWhat makes you think that?
>>12593135bogo fulfills all of those and has a bigger dick
>>12593172Gideon is short and fat
>>12593139Hey, do you like zootopia?
>>12593184>support her>keep up with her at all times>teach her about her new home>challenge her intellectually>has the stamina to keep up with her in bed>Bogo
>>12593184His dick is bit too big.
>>12593204Physical appearance has never had a connection to penis size. That includes weight, height, shoe size and skin tone.
>>12593172What makes you think Gideon has anything but a pathetic foxlet dick covered by flab?
>>12592780Not sure how you interpreted my post as that?
>>12593135Actually, Nick having the smaller dick would be to his advantage. Gideon's dick would never fit Judy, basically he will never be able to pleasure her, as Nick can.
>>12593234now don't you go around moving the goal post
>>12593282Can i swap the post with a dragon dildo?You won't even notice the difference, I promise.
>>12593184>>12593230>challenge her intellectuallySorry, but Nick has Bogo beaten there and Bog's dick wouldn't fit her anyway.
Man, I'm tired of enjoying things and having fun!
>>12593279Gideon can't pleasure her anyway, he's too small.
>>12593323That is, of course, the other possibility.
>>12593323He's only like an inch shorter than Nick. He's still plenty bigger than Judy.
>>12593347>>12593362Okay, Bogo sure has a very small dick compared to his own size.
>>12593362At which point his cock dislocated her hips.
>>12593347>>12593362>bogo has a microdick>Judy can take something thicker than her armsThis is some jullaby-tier logic here
>>12593362Do not do this.Not that any of you have big dicks, but just never do this.
>>12593392most animals have a small dick when you take their size into account
>>12593345>Only an inchTry nearly a foot.
>>12593345no decent human being wants to even imagine how Judy and Gideon fucking would look like.for those who do want, there is Zaush's comic and the toxic furry community who only sees zootopia's characters as shiny new lifeless sextoys they can use.You are welcome to leave and go there
>>12593406sph me more
>>12593418Yeah, but a bull still has a dick at least 3 times bigger than a human. That >>12593347 and >>12593347 is a human sized dick.
>>12593448Odin Sphere was a damn fun game.
>>12593448I can't, you don't have anything big enough to call a penis.
>>12593469no, jerboa.https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sph&defid=1668707>>12593490i will agree
>>12593469Make fun of him for having a tiny little useless bunny clit. He gets off on being reminded of the reason why so many bunny girls end up fucking other mammals: male buns have dicks so small that even when they're hard you can't hardly distinguish them from girls.
>>12593520You might as well just lock yourself in chastity and take your rightful place under a big musky pred cock.
>Watching the deleted Jumbo Pop scene>The Elephant shop owner, instead of being racist, makes the argument "Look, your kid isn't going to finish the whole thing, it is going to drip everywhere, and I am going to be the one to clean it up.">Nick makes him relent by saying that "his kid" has a disorder that makes him think he is an elephant, and has been looking forward to this for weeks>Nick then goes "Oh, I must have left my wallet at the orphanage" where he claims to have gotten Finnick 30 minutes agoAnd this shit is fully animated and rendered.
>Musky pred cockNo. Just no.
>>12593555>filename>>12593517keep going
>>12593570Disney's gotta dumb it down for their target audience. Also, that Oscar.
>>12593588Fat pred dick?
>>12593570Thank god there was someone in the team that said>Guys, how about we make so that it won't be>Nick looking like a bad over-acting con-man>Judy looking like an easily foolable naive and reall dumb bunnyI am really... really happy with the final version we got
>>12593597Prehensile pred dick. It'll hold your coke, or fap your own dick. Think about it.
>>12593570wasn't quite final render, there's some bits where nick's body and fur goes right through his clothes
>>12593597No. no mention of dicks. But feel free to keep talking about preds.
>>12593592It makes sense a chasty cage wouldn't work, they were designed for cocks, not clits.We'll have to get you fitted for a nice chastity belt, the kind girls would wear.Maybe get you one with a hook for a name and owner tag.
>>12593362That last frame is actually really hot.The excess, not the probable internal damage.
>>12593628What are you, gay?
>>12593634Welp i have to go....>Maybe get you one with a hook for a name and owner tag.imma be all hot and bothered during work... fuck
>>12593592Nah. I'm sure your little hare trigger gone off several times just from having somebody notice of that worthless clit, so I'll leave it at that. Your insignificant little bunny cocklette isn't worth my time and attention, and there's no point spamming the thread over something so worthless anyway.
>>12593655Nope[>spoiler]And I'd prefer to keep it that way, thank you[>/spoiler]
>>12593692daaaaaaaaaamn you >>12593690okay time to leave.thanks for the fuel
>>12593690No touching your clit in the bathroom either, you're only allowed to cum when you're servicing a real cock.
>>12593627True enough, but there appears to be enough effort put into it for me to assume they seriously considered putting it into the movie. Unless they were just doing it for fun and seeing just how ridiculous they could get with that scene.
>>12593734You need a superior male's permission to leave?Fine, go, the quicker you do the quicker I can get back to laughing at your useless nub.
Any draw requests?
>>12593772Nick and Judy ageswap
>>12593772Bunnerboi in a girly chastity belt.
>>12593772Anything so long as you stream it.
>>12593772Mildy steamy FinNick
>>12593772Judy giving Nick a rimjob
>>12593772I'm cold, so a sunny day at the beach?
>>12593772A cute punk rocker yeen?
>>12593807>pred GIRL>preds without dicksLiterally what is the point?
>>12593827Big muscles, sharp teeth, and femdom for days.
>>12593772I want this bun to horribly ravage this tiger.
>>12593769Thank you
>>12593807I must concur with his statement, big meaty pred-girls must be done, preferably a tiger/big cat of any variety femdomming a hooman/anon. No futas or pegging allowed.
>>12593886>referably a tiger/big cat of any variety femdomming a hooman/anon. No futas or pegging allowed.Okay serious question: are you and I the same person? I feel like you just read my god-damn mind here.
>>12593772How about some wrestling?
>>12593772A scruffy Violet with whiskers?
>>12593906Bears actually do have prominent upper breasts like humans do.
>>12593895We are brothers, you and I.>>12593886ALSO, I'd like to change femdom to GENTLE femdom please, no rough and hard shit, it's not my thing.
>>12593749>>12593627The Judy in bed with the plush's scene looks to have been fully rendered, then deleted.Was a very nice/sad scene, still not sure why they left it out?
>>12594034Perhaps just a bj under the table then?
>>12594034Thing is that for enough money, it would be.
>>12593853Who are these two?
>>12594034too bad
>>12594073do not
>>12593772Betty with her cookie showing
>>12594034who drew dis
>>12594092Can you watch my chocolate milk for me?
Post some good crossovers.
>>12594157Either Foxbutt or the queen of england.
>>12594201futa is gross.
Is njobody here to have fun anymore?All I see is fighting
>>12594249Fighting IS fun!
>>12594258No.No it isn't.
>>12594249Most of the normal people are preparing for final exams right about now.
>>12593886>>12594027>Big meaty predgirl>Preferably a big cat, like a tiger>No pegging/futa>Gentle femdom, nothing rough So, Pandora basically?
>>12594249Im just here for the bunnies
>>12594235>[Your fetish] is gross too Anon
>>12594048I think the reasoning was both pacing and mood; the complete alternative scene of Judy's phone call with her parents/her cuddling with her plushies could make it seem like she is missing home and almost be interpreted like she wants to go back. The final scene goes along with Judy's frustrations at how her dream job isn't going as well as she thought it would, and how everyone, including her own parents, still don't see her as a real cop.
>>12594249I had fun teasing that bun with the small penis earlier, surely that counts.
>>12594306You mean this girl? I didn't mean for the resemblance if that's the case.
>>12594354choking Nick is top fetish tho
>>12594440Handholding is top fetish.
This walks into your room and nyo-ho's at you, what do you do?
>>12594034Man Foxbutt it's good to see your stuff againHow long you been drawing dude?
>>12594471jump out the window
>>12594249I'm only here because I have nothing better to do.
>>12594471Give it my girlfriend and hope it lets me live.
>>12594433Yup.May or may not be your ideal waifu in that case, Anon.
hhhngnfwnwSECRET SANTAhttps://pastebin.com/6gFGr4r7ztgsecretsanta.tumblr.com Thank you
>>12594249I only just got back from being dead.
>>12594027>Gentle Femdom as wellYou are so my nigga!>>12594306>Pandora>MFW the reason for her best-girl status eluded you for weeks>MFW some anon points it out in an instant
>>12592398Oh god someone please tell me where this is from
Zootopian Skyward Sword could be rad, instead of a floating island could just be a massive tree so tall it reaches above the clouds. Link could be a mouse, chipmunk, whatever small rodent. Part of a society that has trained/bred the perfect flying mount or hell, Link could be a flying squirrel!
>>12594611You're welcome anon.
>>12594628You've missed an opportunity by not having Link be a wolf, Anon.
>>12593711>thanks for the fuelWe also need sph of Fuel.Humiliated by a mammal with a big dick.
>>12594471Give it chocolate as a distraction, and attempt to suplex.
Best Pack Street girl to drink hot cider with.
>>12594667Well that's Twilight Princess, I figure each and every Zelda game in zoot changes up the mammals. Gives a different take on the legend and all that.
>>12594628>>12594667Different anon. I feel like each individual link would be a different animal. TP would be a Wolf, yeah, but maybe have SS be a different animal. One more acquainted with flying.Then obviously PH and WW would have to be some sort of semi-aquatic animal. (Platypus link?)
>>12594707>>12594709 (me)Heck, beat me to it.
>>12594709Otter link would be pretty cool.
>TLoZ>Nick is Zelda>Judy is Link>Skye or Jack is Ganon
>>12594734>Bogo is Ganon
>>12594734What if anon was Ganon?
>>12594709LotP Link a bunny?Or is that gerudo Link?
>>12594440Sort of wonder about Nick's expression in the original?I would expect a 'choking expression to be more like...
>>12594701Debatable, but I'd say Pandora.
>>12594777Well I certainly wouldn't mind being in cider.
>>12594765Sounds good since that was his alternate take in the other world. What about Minnish Cup? That the tiny rodent mammal type cast Zelda?
>>12594747>>12594759Gideon as Ganon
We all know Bellwether would be Ganon.Imagine her ewe muscles.
>>12594777Fuck. She'd probably let you sit in her lap, too.
>>12594618The Sloshed Fox:https://e621.net/pool/show/8366
Evens: relax a littleOdds: try to work on TT
>>12594828So.. Dawn = PowerJudy = CourageNick = Wise-ass
>>12594770This one, leading into this one >>12594440 is a nice progression. Makes it seem like his eyes are slowly drifting shut as consciousness bleeds away.It's comfy, in a way that is probably pretty fucked up.
>>12594734>Nick as a girlAnd just like that, all my interest died completely.
>>12594726Yes good>>12594765Minish Cap: MouseTwighlight Princess: WolfPhantom Hourglass/Windwaker: OtterOcarina of Time/Majora's Mask: Also Wolf.Four Swords: FoxSkyward Sword and Breath of the Wild, I'm not sure.
>>12594864Why wolf for OoT/MM, and why fox for Four Swords? Not arguing, just curious.
>>12594864I don't know man, I think 4 swords all I can think of is buns are good at multiplaying.Haven't played Breath of the wilde so no idea there either...
>>12594818You and me both anon>>12594831Heck yeah
>>12594861if judy were the princess, she wouldn't be kidnapped anon
>>12594881And? I'd rather have Nick and Judy have adventures together than have one save another. Fuck that.
>>12594902So come up with another idea instead of having a stompy fit? We're spitballing here dude...
>>12594872Wolf for OOT/MM because it's the same link, and during TP the Heroe's Shade also takes the form of a wolf. Come to think of it though, Bun links would be p good for Four Swords. >>12594872
>TFW want to join Secret Santa>Every example gift is personally created content>Mostly just want to buy someone cool giftsShould I join and say pic related, or stay out?
>>12594831>Sitting in a big cat's lap while drinking hot ciderB e s t g I r l
>>12594917How about >Nick as Nick>Judy as Judy>original fantasy settingAnd leave Zelda franchise altogether, because trying to mesh them is retarded?
>>12594919>Hero's Shade also takes the form of a wolfAh, that's right, I'd forgotten. I do like the idea of a Fox link, though. Maybe for Breath of the Wild? The open-world aspect, crafting, and eventually going up against really big enemies just says "fox" to me, I dunno why.
>>12594957Yesss, this is fantastic
>>12593772Lewd your porcupine.Maybe with another anon's zoosona.Show us the dicc.
>>12594840It's not often a Weaver can bring a tear to the eye.
>>12594968That's a good idea anon. Me gusta.
>>12594709>>12594864>>12594875here's my take:TLoZ I & II: BadgerA Link to the Past, Link Between Worlds: BunnyLink's Awakening: FoxOcarina of Time/Majora's Mask: WolfOracle of Ages/Seasons: ErmineWind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks: OtterFour Swords: HamsterMinish Cap: MouseTwighlight Princess: WolfSkyward Sword: Flying Squirrel or BatBreath of the Wild: Squirrel
>>12594840Good fucking shit.
reminder never to lie to yourself or others
>>12594957Nice pic Waga! I like that whomever brought him in seemed to know so they brought em right to Jude.>>12594968Foxes are pretty cute...>>12594996You had me at badger
>>12595011It's not like anyone cares.
Page 10>>12595029>>12595029>>12595029
>>12594996I agree with this list. Except Breath of the Wild. Maybe a horse?
>>12595055A hoofer? How....
>>12595072I just saw yours, I prefer art so I can delete mine if you want.
>>12595011I'm not a furry, I just happen to like this...
>>12594996>SquirrelNut of the Wild
>>12595082already got rid of mine.this one's all yours, mate
>>12595082>prefer new art>>12595092Alright, next time man. All yours.
>>12594957>He gets out of community service by eating her out under her desk.
>>12595099heck, i doubt i'll even be up by the time the next one ends.thanks anyways, though!
>>12595055>Crafting>With hoovesAnon...
>>12595150Maybe he just drags around a kitty to do all the work for him? Poor hoofer is turning out more like Epona than Link...
>>12594057>>12594067>>12594079>>12594516goddamnit i had a feeling i did it>>12594481Not long enough lmao
>>12595381You're a good dude Mr Butt.
>>12594957Judy looks almost bored, as if she expects him at this point.
>>12595381You're awesome, dude.
>>12595381>goddamnit i had a feeling i did itit happens. looks much better in this one. very hansome focks
>>12592045She's about to, though.
>>12594770>I would expect a 'choking expression to be more likeHere's where you clearly identify yourself as someone who's never done any force, dom, or breathplay during sex.Normie.
>>12594861>Nick as a girl>And just like that, all my interest died completely.Pfft, ametuer.
>>12595911>He's never been in a life or death situation where he choked another man to deathFuck this thread.
>>12594957Hey Waga... when will you be doing your stream? The one from totally winning Rose's Jack box thing.
>>12595943>choked another man to death>to death>thinking this is what breathplay isJesus Christ just stop, you're embarrassing yourself
>>12596022Not even on 11 yet man, we have a while yet before release.
>>12596051Eh, it's close enough.
>>12596073Well, see ya later Anon. I hope you rest well.
last for i wish the shitposting would die down so i can finally talk about my niche fetishes
>>12596093lol na


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FF calls on Hogan to immediately lift embargo on approval of new projects
Rural communities are losing out on beneficial development grants because the Environment Minister Phil Hogan is still persisting with a block on new projects under the LEADER programme.
Following pressure from Fianna Fáil in the Dáil and the Seanad last month, Minister Hogan finally agreed to lift the embargo on the approval of new LEADER projects within 10 days. But over three weeks later, there is still no sign of him doing this.
Senator Ó Domhnaill explained, "Minister Hogan has admitted that less than a third of the money provided under the Leader Programme has been spent to date. At present there is €100 million of funds that must be sanctioned by the end of the year or the money will be lost."
"One of the main problems is the embargo that was placed on the approval of new projects at the end of January. Progress has ground to a halt as a result. Fianna Fáil appealed to the Minister to urgently lift this embargo and he agreed to do this within 10 days. That was over 3 weeks ago and the embargo remains in place.
"Everything is on hold until Minister Hogan keeps his word and lifts this unnecessary and damaging embargo. Rural communities across Ireland are losing out on valuable development grants. Projects that could be extremely useful and successful cannot get off the ground, even though the money is available to support them.
"The longer the Minister drags his heels on this, the more likely it is that money available to Ireland from Europe for rural development will be lost to this country. Minister Hogan must start taking this matter seriously and ensuring that the funding that has been provided for rural development projects actually gets to those who need and deserve it."
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Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) and Royal Dutch Shell plc (ADR) (NYSE:RDS.A), two of the world's largest companies, are the latest companies which have boosted bond issuances to a record high as the two companies have just issued $18 billion in bonds, according to Michelle Davis.
In a discussion on Bloomberg's First Up, Davis also suggests that Apple, which owns one of the most profitable businesses ever, is issuing bonds because it is a simpler way for the company to have cash on hand inside the United States. This move is being made instead of repatriating money the company has outside of the country.
"Today we had two of the world's largest companies – Apple, the most valuable company on the planet, and Royal Dutch Shell which is about the fourth largest energy company – coming to the market issuing $18 billion in bonds and that puts this year's issuances at almost 9% more than last year and last year was already a record year. You're seeing these company's racing the clock against the [Federal Reserve], they want to lock in low interest rates while they can," Davis says.
According to the Bloomberg corporate finance reporter, most people are expecting the Fed to raise interest rates later this year and Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) and Royal Dutch Shell plc (ADR) (NYSE:RDS.A) want to take advantage of the lower rates while they are still available.
"Apple is cash-rich but it has a lot of its money overseas. Instead of repatriating that and having to deal with taxes and tax codes, it makes a lot more sense, at least when rates are low, for it to issue debt because they can do it so cheaply," Davis tells her colleagues at Bloomberg, adding, "They want to use that money to fund some shareholder payments. Apple has faced some pressure recently to give money back to shareholders so this is the cheapest way for them to do that."
Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL), she adds, and Royal Dutch Shell plc (ADR) (NYSE:RDS.A) are great places to put money in at the moment since these are two great names offering investment-grade debt which are made more attractive by the high yield on 30-year treasury bills. The yield is at a 5-month high, Davis says, which means Apple and Shell have to pay a bit more to entice investors to buy their bonds.
David Einhorn's Greenlight Capital owned about 8.61 million Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) shares by the end of 2014.
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While Donald Trump and his court were further trying to explain how they would keep every Muslim away from American borders, an important event occurred across the waters that might change everything.
The good people of London in olde England, which is arguably the Western country that has had the most sobering problems with its Muslim population, has thrown care to the winds and elected Sadiq Khan as the first Muslim mayor of a major Western capital city.
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For Sadie: Ontario's Ethan Turnbaugh turns tragedies into No. 1 ranking
ONTARIO - Before every match, Ontario assistant wrestling coach Wes Turnbaugh grabs his son by the headgear and pulls him in close as the two touch foreheads.
"Who do we wrestle for?" Wes asks Ontario junior Ethan Turnbaugh.
Ethan then turns and trots to the mat for his match without saying a single word. He doesn't have to. He already knows who he is wrestling for. He has it tattooed on his right rib cage. It is a single name, but an important one. One that Ethan wakes up in the morning thinking about and is the last one that goes through his mind when he goes to sleep.
King of the 160-pounders
Ethan Turnbaugh entered his junior season ranked No. 1 in Division II among 160-pound wrestlers. He has lived up to the billing so far during his junior year with a perfect 19-0 record. He already has a victory over the No. 2 ranked wrestler in Division II at 160 when he scored a pin against Licking Valley senior Dylan Dodson during the Findlay Duals in just his seventh match of the year.
Needless to say, he has earned every bit of that No. 1 ranking. Still, he believes it is just a number and refuses to take any opponent lightly.
"I still haven't wrestled the No. 3 through No. 7 yet," Ethan said. "Everyone notices you at a tournament being No. 1, but you cannot be satisfied."
Ethan has earned the honor to be called No. 1 as his dad has seen firsthand just how much work he has put into his craft.
"He has put in the work, that is for sure," Wes said. "Something like that does not come easy and we had to beat some very tough kids for him to earn that recognition. He went to state as a freshman and we expected more than what happened and then last year, canceling the tournament the day before was just tough and it was a heartbreaker. We expected big things, but to walk in at No. 1 as a junior is an honor.
"Deserving, yes. But it still a shock to see the name at the top of the list, but as a coach and as a dad, I would much rather not be that person so we aren't a target, but he has done well with it. We stepped into a match with No. 2 and got a pin so we are OK with it."
Inspired by tragedy
Like any great athlete, Ethan Turnbaugh has seen his fair share of bumps in the road on his way to his No. 1 ranking. Instead of letting the tragedies dictate his life, he uses them as inspiration.
Most notably, a family tragedy that happened on Sept. 29, 2018. Ethan's sister, Sadie Turnbaugh, lost her life during a tragic ATV accident. She was only 10-years old.
That winter, art teachers at Ontario got together and painted tributed to Sadie on the shoes of all of the wrestlers. Special T-shirts were made to honor an important member of the Ontario wrestling family that say "Warrior Wings for Sadie". Community members reached out in bunches to offer support to the Turnbaugh family and talked about the great memories they shared with the girls who will always be remembered for her smile.
Less than two years earlier, Ethan's older brother, Colton, who was a wrestling star in his own rights as a senior last season for the Warriors, was involved in a terrible accident that left him badly burned and cost him his entire freshman wrestling season.
He rebounded nicely and earned a state berth last year before the meet was canceled.
So, Ethan has plenty he is wrestling for as he hopes to honor his sister's memory, wrestle for his brother as well as keep the family legacy going. Wes Turnbaugh was the last state champion wrestler to come out of Ontario. He went 45-0 in 1999 and was named the Division II Wrestler of the Year in the entire state. His trophy, which dwarfs the Heisman Trophy, sits in the case at Ontario High School. His state tournament bracket hangs right behind it.
Every time Ethan walks by the case, he stops and stares, thinking about what it would be like to follow in his father's footsteps and become the next state champ at Ontario ending a drought that has lasted 22 years.
As he peers through the glass of the case, he takes a step back and sees his reflection. After a few moments, the face of his sister appears in the glass and he is hit with a ton of emotion and a sense of determination.
"Seeing the brackets up on the wall and seeing that there are only four of them in the history of Ontario and just thinking I could possibly have two is a huge motivation," Ethan said. "And of course, Sadie, I always wrestle for her. I have her name on my shoes and just wrestling for her has always been a big part of why I do what I do. When that accident happened, that was when I took off and started trying a lot harder to be the best wrestler I could be.
"I wrestle for Colton, too. He lost his entire freshman year because of his burns. He walked out as a stud his freshman year and he is what made me so much better. Colton, Sadie and the brackets. Those are what keeps me going."
What has also helped Ethan grow is how open he and his family are about the passing of their daughter/sister. They don't act like it never happened and move on like she never existed. Sadie is part of their everyday lives. The family pictures still hang on the wall. The conversations about her happen and the memories are shared every day.
Colton is reminded every day of the obstacles he has been presented as he has scars from the burns he suffered during his freshman year. And Ethan continues to push through all of the family tragedies he has faced over the last five years and that mental toughness compliments his physical strength to the tune of one of the highest expectations for an Ontario wrestler in the last 22 years.
"His mom and I have always tried to be positive with our kids and give them every opportunity we possibly can," Wes said. "We will travel with them to go to any wrestling meet and do whatever we can to support them. What we have been through as a family, it has been rough. It started with Colton and his whole burn scenario and Ethan was there with him. We were at a tournament with my youngest son and then with Sadie, Ethan was there when everything happened. He has been through a lot and the family has been through a lot, but we always try to stay positive and keep our family going.
"The boys have done a phenomenal job with how they have responded to everything. We take our boys to church and try to lead a better life and stay positive with the motivation. It has been a rough road."
Coming out on top
Roman Stoic philosopher, Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger has been credited with saying, "It is a rough road that leads to the heights of greatness."
The quote can be directly related to Ethan's path to his junior high school wrestling season. He has learned a lot through many tragedies in his life, ones that no 17-year old kid should ever have to deal with.
Instead of letting it define him, he has conquered them and come out on top.
"I have learned you have to push through," Ethan said. "It is healthy to mourn, but you can't mourn for too long. I was out of school for a while when Sadie's accident happened and I was ready to go back after a few weeks. It just teaches you to never forget, but it is OK to move on. I will never hold in my feelings anymore and it is helpful to express yourself."
He expresses himself on the wrestling mat. It is where he can be free.
"When it comes to wrestling, it is a different mindset," Ethan said. "It isn't like I don't think about then, but I use them as motivation to push me on. It is a huge tragedy and it does affect me, but it doesn't have to affect me physically. I can walk out there and give it everything I have even though I have all of these emotions. When the whistle blows, my mind clears and I just give everything I have to the match."
The mat is where he also expresses himself with his unique wrestling style. His nickname is bendy as he finds himself in situations that no normal wrestler should ever find his way out of, but Ethan seems to wiggle his way out of anything thanks to his flexibility.
"He has a very unique wrestling style and coaches and other wrestlers know that," Wes said. "I have always told him he has something that other wrestlers don't. He has a funky style, but to be where he is takes more than just style. He has added the attitude and determination and he is very tough to wrestle."
It has worked just fine. He is undefeated on the year with 13 pins, three major decisions, one decision and two forfeits. He has also lived up to his No. 1 billing by knocking off three previous state qualifiers, Dotson, Niko Christo of Northmor and Rob Boley of Lake Catholic.
"We have had some matches where we went in against kids we weren't supposed to beat," Wes said. "We call him "bendy" for a reason. He does things that other people can't do. He shocks me sometimes in the wrestling room."
High personal expectations
Ontario coach Kevin Kroll knows a thing or two about great wrestlers. And he sees a gem in Ethan.
He loves his style. He loves his attitude and he loves what kind of a teammate he is in the wrestling room.
"I refer to him as bendy because Gumby is a trademark," Kroll said with a laugh. "He has some funky hips, but man, he is a great kid. He is so much fun to have on this team and is a happy-go-lucky teammate and he does what he does. There is nothing technical with the way he wrestles. His style might as well be called Super Funk. He is getting so much better on his feet."
And he will never second guess the expectations he has for himself. Ethan wants to join his father as a state champ in the Ontario program. But, he also wants to one-up his pops.
Who doesn't?
"I want two state titles," Ethan said. "I would be thrilled with one, but I would love to get two. I want wrestling to also be a part of my future and would love to wrestle in college. It is one of my main goals and something I have always looked forward to doing."
Kroll knows that based on how Ethan has handled all of the travesties in his life, he can do anything he puts his mind to. The way Ethan and the entire Turnbaugh family overcame their tragedies leaves Kroll inspired to do the best job he can in helping all of his wrestlers reach their potential.
"That speaks volumes to the family in general," Kroll said. "The strength of that family is unbelievable. They are also part of our family. It was a rough time for them and we suffered through it right beside them as a wrestling family Sadie is an inspiration to us.
"As part of my program, I have an award I give away every year that was called the Warrior Award. Last year, I changed that name to the Sadie Turnbaugh Warrior Spirit Award. That award exemplifies not necessarily the best kid, but the kid who has the most grit and determination to keep going. If you would have known Sadie, she was a happy-go-lucky girl who was one of our biggest fans. I think he wrestles for her."
He most certainly does.
Wes is also thankful for Kroll's support during a dark time for his family.
"The community and family we have has been amazing," Wes said. "They have helped us get through everything we have been through. We aren't the family that is all about us; we are willing to help out anyone else. It has been a rough road, but we are still getting through it day by day."
It is all they can do. Take it day to day, hour by hour and minute by minute.
But when it comes time to wrestle, everything seems to be free. All the worries go out the window for a brief moment.
But no matter what, Wes Turnbaugh grabs his son by the headgear, pulls him in close touching his forehead to his son's, and asks the same question, "Who do we wrestle for?"
Ethan turns, and trots onto the mat, again without saying a single word.
He doesn't have to.
The answer is Sadie.
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Division II 160-pound weight class rankings according to BororfanOhio.net
1. Ethan Turnbaugh (Ontario) Junior
2. Dylan Dodson (Licking Valley) Senior
3. Austin Pownall (CVCA) Senior
4. Aaron Ferguson (Steubenville) Senior
5. Logan Krulik (Beaver Local) Senior
6. Antwaun Burns (London) Junior
7. Gunner Cramblett (Graham) Freshman
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10. Max Ray (Bellevue) Sophomore
11. Ethan Phillips (Norwalk) Senior
12. Eric Williams (East Liverpool) Sophomore
13. Cody Matthews (Marengo Highland) Junior
14. Matthew Woomer (Warren Howland) Junior
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18. Evan Lewis (Carrollton) Senior
19. Brandon Kiser (Dover) Junior
20. Khail Louive (Minerva) Junior
21. Zach Flohr (Norton) Senior
22. Drake Gamertsfelder (New Philadelphia) Senior
23. Joe Pennington (Alliance) Senior
24. John Metzger (Ashland) Sophomore
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So stick with me as I advance some notions that might leave you wondering….
I asked questions about the universe; how it began, where did the planets (especially Earth) come from. My mind was open to all kinds of ideas.
After checking them out, reading about them, debating them with other open-minded people, I came to (what is for me and for many others), the logical conclusion: God began the universe. God created the planets.
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My mind pondered the mysteries of human behaviour (and misbehaviour). Why do we act as we do? When and why do we fail to act? How did "right" and "wrong" come about?
I travelled back down the familiar road of reading the various viewpoints, talking to various people and thinking, thinking, thinking. My conclusion? God created right and wrong. God created freewill. And we humans have done many horrifying things with that gift.
What about life after death? My mind, opened by wonder, read all kinds of things about this. Some said it doesn't exist. Other said it does and explored a myriad of possibilities.
I pondered those possibilities, discussed them and then came to the conclusion that's shared by millions upon millions of others: after we die, there's more to come. And what that "more" is depends on us (and how we've used the gift of freewill).
I wondered about this dude called Jesus. Did He exist? Was He who he claimed to be? Did He die on a cross as a sacrifice for all the bad things we've done and the good things we've failed to do? Did He come back to life after three days? Is He still active in our world?
I pondered these questions. Boy, did I ponder. I read articles and books, watched videos and heard church sermons. I had long discussions with people. In other words, I worked like a miner through this mountain of questions.
In the end, I understood that not all my questions could be answered about Jesus. But enough of them could so that I could easily make the leap of faith and become a follower of Jesus.
When I did that, my life changed for the better. I saw the wonder of God's creation in a new and glorious light. I saw the wonder of His gift to me (Jesus, offered to every person on this earth, regardless of race/creed/gender/behaviour). I gasped at the wonder of what is to come when this life ends — and how it will be amazing and more, because I accepted the gift of Jesus.
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- Yeah, so work reentry is rough. Busy, busy, busy. I have so much to do. It would've still been insanely busy even if I had not taken a week off, so no regrets. I do wonder if/when America will get over this ridiculous "week long" vacation situation and consider a 2 week minimum. The work ethic here is killing us.
- Hope is saving up for a car, y'all. As we begin talking about his process, I'm acutely aware of how much I take for granted in terms of environmental learning from my family. My dad was a mechanic, and took enormous pride in fixing EVERYTHING, including his cars. I honestly am struggling to remember how I learned certain things about purchasing and maintaining a car; I just learned it along the way.
- Even though I've been intentionally talking about these things with Hope for years, I'm realizing the extent to which my daughter has been unable to take in and retain information. Trauma is a beeotch. I'm convinced that these 7 years has just been a brain "rest" period; the result is that Hope has been oblivious to a lot of the environmental learning that just happens in families. It's not intentional; she probably was listening but just could not process the information.
- Case in point: I do not ever remember learning what mileage on a car was; I just somehow learned and knew that that was how many miles the car had driven. Last night Hope asked me if mileage represented how many miles the car had left to drive. I was like, "an expiration date?" Whew, I have laughed about it for 24 hours because: HILARIOUS. But then I think about what the question represents, and I wonder how many other things Hope just missed learning because of her rocky start in life. Makes me sad.
- These last two weeks or so, I'm seeing so much growth in Hope. She's regaining some much needed confidence. She enjoys working. She's helping out around the house more, even picking up groceries. She's quick to remind me that she needs me, but I'm starting to see glimpses of her future. I'm excited to see how she progresses.
- The truth is that Hope is probably more stable than I am right now. I'm still feeling overwhelmed by most things. Running simple errands can be challenging; lack of motivation. I'm in my head a lot, which is not unusual, but it's not a good thing these days. I really need a meds adjustment, but the simple act of dialing my doc's number–which is on speed dial–just seems like…work.
- Even on the weekends, I'm likely to just stay home all day. This isn't like me. I'm an extrovert; I like being around people. I get off on the energy. But even thinking about going out much is enough to shut me down for a couple of days. Some of this is pandemic fall out, but the rest of it…is just me.
- I am logging my food and stepping up my exercise. I might not have hot girl summer, but it will be toasty girl fall!
- Yappy is currently sleeping in the middle of the bed. I've been relegated to the edge because the look he gave me when I attempted to move him about 30 mins ago was wanton rebellion. He ain't moving. I'm not sure how a 10lb dog because the master of me, but here we are.
- I have a serious case of wanderlust. I am eyeballing trips to Iceland and Costa Rica. My fantasy would be to go alone, like I did with Puerto Rico a couple of years ago. I just need some decompression time. Where should I go? Open to suggestions! I'm concerned about the delta variant, but I am vaxxed. I am unwilling to travel for work, but I need to get on a plan sometime soon.
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"Le cochon sent le champignon sauvage."
Translation:The pig smells the wild mushroom.
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Stative verbs in English include those showing senses (hear, see, smell, feel) are generally not used in a continuous tense. When they are used in a continuous tense, it can actually change the meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/differences-between-action-and-stative-verbs-1211141 Consider:
- the pig smells the wild mushroom (the pig has a sensory awareness of the scent of the mushroom)
the pig is smelling the wild mushroom. Here, the verb in a continuous tense is an action verb and depicts that the pig is actively smelling the mushroom. I.e., the mushroom is right there in front of the pig and he is seen to sniff it (he is smelling it).
I smell flowers. (I detect the scent of flowers in the air).
- I am smelling flowers. I am actively/deliberately engaged in smelling flowers (because I enjoy their scent).
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2018-05-17 Perhaps in this case, "wild mushroom" refers to truffles, which traditionally were found using hogs to sniff them out. This sentence could then be a general statement, like one in a documentary film.
A truffle is "une truffe". Here, we can only be certain that they are mushrooms growing in the wild, i.e., not farm-grown.
Because it's a singular. "Smells mushroom" is not a common English expression to my knowledge.
The English translation is unnatural. The English translation would use mushrooms in the plural. "The pig smells the wild mushrooms."
We both need to listen more carefully! I agree that multiple mushrooms are more common, but single mushrooms are neither impossible nor grammatically incorrect.