For a pile of apples, if every 12 are packed in a bag, there will be 8 more apples, if every 15 apples are packed in a bag, there will be 11 more apples, how many apples are there at least in this pile?
一堆苹果，如果每12个装一袋，则多8个，如果每15个装一袋，则多11个，这堆苹果至少有多少个？
<gadget id="calculator">2 * 2 * 3 * 5</gadget>
<output>60</output>

<gadget id="calculator">60 - 4</gadget>
<output>56</output>

<result>56</result>