Yeah, you're right. I mean, there really are technologies that are liberal, lowercase l liberal, that are freedom technologies. And there are some technologies that take away freedom. There's some that give it encryption as we made the point so many times, is one of those freedom type technology, cryptography, RSS protocols that are incredibly neutral, ethereum, TCP IP, the Internet, all of these are freedom technologies. And getting him in that mindset is good and important too. He mentioned David Graber, which is interesting too.