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CMV: People who really believe that abolishing the police is the solution are batshit crazy

1) How are you going to fight crime without a police force? Vigilante justice? Well good luck, that has never worked before and it always hit innocent people because vigilantes tend to ignore due process. And then it‘s just the guy with the biggest guns who rules, i.e. organized crime or you just have an endless cycle of revenge killings.

This is especially true in crime-ridden America. What the hell do you expect to happen when some guy accidentally hits someone while driving? People will be emotional and out for revenge and will kill the guy in turn. The guy‘s brother will get emotional and will kill the killer in turn. The killer‘s family will then kill...

If you want anarchy, just go to Somalia.


2) Policing works just fine in other countries. Maybe if not every goddamn lunatic could own a gun in the USA, police wouldn‘t need to point a gun at every suspect because literally any American could hide one in his pants. Then you could regulate police use of force better and make strict rules. 

3) This is obviously not enough, you also need to end that culture of policemen protecting each other from repercussions. Make bodycams mandatory everywhere, and if it happens to be turned off, you reverse the case to guilty until proven innocent for the policeman in question (on top of a huge fine no matter the outcome). Also, no more internal investigations, an external oversight agency and much, much longer training. I can tell you, police training can be goddamn hard in Europe and they tend to filter out the Rambos who just want to have power over others.
gpt
1. There is no reforming a system that's, at its core, racist, power-hungry, extremely violent, working to hide its own crimes and, crucially, has near-zero accountability. In this sense, the police should be defunded and built up anew, as a community-serving and community-overseen entity, demilitarized and fully accountable. There has to be a new type of organization, with new leadership, new training, new philosophies of empathy and responsibility, and entirely new membership to make sure violent, deranged types and raging racists are not allowed anymore. If you merely reform they stay, gain a foothold, then subvert any progress or cover each others' tracks in racist, violent crimes, as has been the case so far. Basically, it's necessary to fire everyone, and rehire only the ones who pass strict evaluation, as opposed to handing out new brochures to everyone on the force. That won't work.
2. There's also the argument that merely a fraction of police work necessarily involves violence, and most officers are woefully unprepared for those cases anyway. The downside of arming regular police is violence against innocent people, with not much upside. There could always be state or federal SWAT teams for extreme situations.
3. Why is there militarized police in the first place? There are ample arguments against the war on drugs that's only meant to perpetuate the mass incarceration and private prison complex, and against extremely lax rules on gun ownership that help sustain the persistent danger of everyday life in the US. These two policies alone account for most of the case calling for the militarization of police, and they are demonstrably wrong in the first place. They should be dismantled as well.
4. Militarized police is not a solution to any of society's problems, it is part of the problem. It is a means to keep the workforce in check, to prevent any real social change. It's really easy to see if you try to look at it this way. There's a ton of evidence of police violence against worker strikes, for example.