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CMV: I hope the SC takes a case the directly addresses Red Flag Laws and rules them unconstitutional.

This year, the SC heard a case that implicates but unfortunately doesn’t directly address red flag laws.

Red flag laws (to me) seem unconstitutional. I’m sure people think they mean well by them… but there is nothing right or just about taking someone’s property without them being charged nor convicted of something.

Individuals simply have to believe that someone may hurt themselves or others… if other criteria are met (depends on the state) a person maybe ordered by the court to turn in their property (without them ever having a say or legal representation). A person may also have police enter their home and seize their property… regardless if they have ever committed a crime.


Now I know most people here are anti gun… but just put yourself in that position. Take guns out of it. 

You are just living your life… unbeknownst to you, someone got the wrong impression from your actions and or words. 

From behind the scenes, people are talking about you and making decisions about what to do about you. You are not aware, you don’t get to explain yourself and just one day you get a knock on your door and police walk through your house and take your property. 


You have literally done nothing illegal but giving someone an impression of something bad *may* happen.

**Then you’ll have to spend money for legal fees to get your own property back!**

I find it hard to believe any of you would be okay with that.

Hopefully we can get these stupid laws out of this country.
gpt
Firstly, it's not "simply" the way you say it is.  Friends/family/police have to say that someone is harm to themselves and then a _judge_ has to create an order and evaluates it based on statements from the gun-owner themselves.  All individual who are not the gun owner have the ability to do is to point out the possible need to remove a gun from a person.  So...you DO get to (and have to) explain yourself. 

To be clear, these laws allow people to _petition_ for an evaluation of someone.  A judge makes the ruling.  This is less severe than - for example - a 3 day psychiatric hold.

I think that this is something gun owners and gun advocates should be in favor of.  People who are not fundamentally safe around guns should not be around guns.  And...we should _encourage_ members of a person's family, co-workers and members of the community to support individuals in maintaining safe relationships with guns.  

if you don't want suicidal or murderous people to have guns, then your alternative is to prevent everyone from having guns.  I'd much rather richly engaged communities in protecting themselves from the unstable edge case.