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CMV: Transgenderism is mentally unhealthy for all involved, especially with regard to physical transitioning

UPDATE: My view has been changed thanks to some very intelligent, level-headed folks that I've spoken to on this sensitive subject. Although not 100% reversed, my opinion through this process has been changed. I hope that everyone felt as though I engaged them with respect in a fully conversational tone. I made profuse efforts to do so. On that point, it should be known by all participants that if a redditor is breaking the rules, you aren't allowed to tell them to stop, apparently. You aren't allowed to tell them why or how their statement is inappropriate, no matter how matter-of-fact it is and no matter how neutral your tone. You aren't allowed to tell them, no matter how neutral the statement, that they should seek a better approach. You aren't allowed to tell them that they should seek to be more emotionally detached. You aren't allowed to tell them to stop engaging you, either. You are, apparently, beholden to abuse the report button in this format, thereby breaking a rule of the site as a whole, since no other sensible option will stop the mods from deleting your comments and accusing you of things you are not guilty of. No matter what you do to try to get the mods to describe exactly what it is that you may have said that violated a rule they won't tell you and will just stomp their feet like little children. It's truly a sad state for a sub with such a great format and respectable intentions. Mods, if you want people to participate freely in this kind of format, if you want to retain any integrity, you are beholden to backing up your claims like everyone else under any post on your sub. Your approach with me was utterly ridiculous and I have no idea still why you deleted my comment only because you refused to engage me in as intellectually sound, respectable and emotionally detached manner that you require from everyone else. 

It's analogous to accepting an anorexic's belief that they're too thin. The rationale for both transgenderism and anorexia are that they're built on social constructs that fluctuate depending on era and/or society. Both are in denial of physical realities and attempt to change that physical reality by trying to shape objective reality to meet their internal desires rather than accepting objective conditions. This is something no medical provider would ever do with an anorexic, even if there was a safe way of doing it (also analogous to heroin addiction, or people hearing voices in their heads). People playing along are reinforcing their disconnect from reality and fostering unfair demands on other people to do the same by shaming them.

Transgenderism wants to have things both ways (no pun intended) by saying that gender is only a social construct and also, somehow, that it's diagnosable on a psychiatric level. If it's a social construct then there should be no sexual dimorphism that lend men and women different roles. Men and women are physically different for biological duties whether they're ever realized or not, and there's no denying that. If it's only a social construct then what need is there for physical transitioning?

It reverses the work put in for decades by the homosexual community that says that social constructs \*aren't\* the determinant of gender. Many parents who are introducing their children to transitioning early are doing so on the basis that they seem to do things that are traditionally not appropriate to their sexual gender assignment. The homosexual community finally has experienced some liberation on this level and established that just because a man likes other men sexually or other things that straight women like that it doesn't mean that he isn't a man, or that just because a woman likes other women and tends to like things that straight men like that they aren't women. The transgender movement uses exactly these things to rationalize young children being transitioned.

The part of the trans movement that believes that young children should be allowed to choose to transition are (perhaps without realizing it) destroying the argument for the age of consent. Anyone who can be trusted to make a permanent physical change to their body at a very young age age must, naturally, be able to choose to have whatever sexual experience they wish to have. If not, they are making the irrational argument that a permanent choice is less of a commitment than a temporal one.

If it's not simply a social construct and it can be diagnosed, then there should be plenty of examples of people who are diagnosed with it who think of themselves as cis-gendered. If it was a legitimate condition that could be diagnosed such as something like schizophrenia, there should be plenty of doctors who, independently, can look at a case study and determine the treatment with some degree of consensus.

Finally, it demands untenable things from the rest of the world in a few ways:

It demands that the rest of the world play along. How is transgenderism not a way of inflicting a psycho-sexual fantasy on the rest of the world? Transgendered people have a sexual fantasy of being accepted as something they aren't. Now it's become a social rule in modern 1st world countries that if we don't role-play with them in this walk-around fantasy that \*we\* are the ones that are inflicting \*our\* interests onto \*them\* and I have a lot of trouble seeing it any other way. It's pretty gross, too.

Pronouns aren't personal. That's not how language works or is supposed to work. No one remembers pronouns because the subconscious practice of determining another organism's sex is many, many millions of years more deeply ingrained than bipedalism, and even primates generally. The language that we use associated with that is hardwired far below the conscious mind, so it isn't a choice to mis-gender someone.

There's a flaw within transgenderism revealed by this: It discriminates against people who can't pass post-transition. If you think you're a man because you have a short haircut and manage to grow a mustache but you still look like a girl, no one's going to call you a man. Your life as a man will continue to be unfulfilled. There's nothing you'll ever be able to do about being misgendered if you look like Margot Robbie but demand to to be addressed as a man.

Transgendered people, whether or not they ascribe to the diagnosable or social construct theories around it, can never truly be the other they choose because part of being what we are has to do with the process of growing up as that thing. No one who grows up as a female, lives as a female, and is protective of their body the way females are will ever understand the rough and tumble nature of how most men interact through a lifetime of gender-specific horse-play.

In effect all it does is render the term "gender" meaningless. It has no definition if it isn't linked to biological sex.

These points are most of what I think about when it comes to transgenderism. CMV by changing my opinion on them. I won't respond to arguments coming from the perspective of birth defects as they are in too severe a minority to warrant large-scale societal reform.

I feel I should add that this is in no way an argument against anyone living in exactly the way they want to, so long as they don't force anyone else to participate in their fantasies. The thought that anyone sees alternative lifestyles like furries, homosexuality, transgenderism, or any form of queerness as a reason for ridicule, judgement or limiting their inalienable rights as humans is 100% inexcusable and I will absolutely fight for you to live in safety and enjoy your freedoms. This is solely an exercise in testing the logical underpinnings of transgenderism because I see huge logical flaws in it. That shouldn't be taken as an argument that you aren't allowed to do it. In a certain way it's like breaking down the rules around psychics. You should be free to stare into a crystal ball or read palms and go on about whatever sense you have about anyone willing to give you five dollars, but it should be regarded as bullshit if that's what it is.

Transgenderism also follows the same pattern as a social contagion, not a medical condition. This would suggest that it's much more a fad that will largely subside, but this remains to be seen.

Fire away folks!
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The rest of the world refusing to 'play along', as you put it, results in trans people frequently killing themselves.

The rest of the world accepting trans people's desire to transition results in much less suicide.

How is the former 'mentally healthier' than the latter?