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Why is an European PhD considered shorter than an American PhD when an American PhD is really a Masters + PhD?

Most European PhD programs require a Master's degree, which takes 1-3 years, whereas an American PhD can be started after a Bachelor's degree. So even if an American PhD is typically 5 years, shouldn't it be regarded as 2+3 years, thus essentially being the same in length as a 3-year European PhD? But why do so many people perceive European programs as shorter?
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Because in the US if you do a Masters' and a PhD you are still expected to take 4+ years to do your PhD. And the "MSc+PhD" is often 6+ years long.

So any way you cut it it tends to be longer than in europe.