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CMV: It is morally wrong for a modern civilized society to punish prisoners (besides locking them up in prison) even when no rehabilitation is possible

Whilist browsing through comments on Reddit and other sites, I've encountered many people arguing that persons who have comitted many crimes or a serious enough crime, which makes them unrehabilitable, don't deserve anything beyond the bare basics for survival like food and shelter.

Besides the assumption about rehabilitation being impossible (which is another can of worms) I fundamentally disagree with the notion that we shouldn't treat people humanely just because we can't rehabilitate them.

I assume the people who post those comments think of it as something like a barrel with two types of fruit, "punishment" and "rehabilitatiom".

So all the humane treatment, decent facilities, good food, psychological services, hobby and work programs etc are in the "rehabilitation" fruit type. The theory is that when rehabilitation is off the table, all that goes away and there's only the "punishment" fruit left in the barrel.

That's the notion I disagree with and I think it has no place in modern civilized society.

The *desire* for retribution is valid and a vital part of human nature. It's natural for the harmed to wish harm upon the harmer.

What we definitely should **not** do is take that and *actually make it a reality*. 

The best example for an "ideal" prison system would be Norway's. Being in prison *is the punishment*. Anything more degrading or punishing on the prisoner is regressive of modern society in general.
gpt
Why does “humane” equate to having all of the modern luxuries people enjoy on the outside? It is perfectly humane to put them in a concrete cell with a bed and give them access to TV and books during the day.