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CMV If abortion is an option, child support should also be an option.

Title says it all. If a woman can decide whether or not to keep baby and therefore support it, a man should be able to decide as well. I’m not here to argue abortion itself, I’m morally against and will always disagree with it BUT I’m also a avid supporter of individual liberty and as such only extend my views to my life so I don’t think I’m that biased in this regard. That said I see a certain unfairness in the arguments surrounding abortion and child support.

In child support the common trope is “It takes two to tango” in that whether the father wants the child or not he has an obligation that legally he cannot remove himself from.

In abortion the common trope is “My body my choice” in that if the father decides well maybe he wants the kid then too bad. To a father he is watching his child be murdered. And society is more or less telling him to get over it.

So help me understand, why is it moral/ethical for only one parent to have a legal obligation to a child and not the other? If the father doesn’t wasn’t a child but the mother does he has to pay. If the father wants the child but the mother doesn’t he still has to pay. (the price being his child) Can someone convince me that is a good thing?

In that same vein I’m having trouble accepting why an unborn baby is a fetus or baby depending on the mothers feelings. For example killing a pregnant woman is double homocide. So if a pregnant woman is punched and forced to have a miscarriage, the logic trail suggests the case can be dropped from the get go if the mother decides it wasn’t a human. So in that realm a woman can legally determine the criteria for murder? I don’t think that a single person can determine the law and go back and forth based on their feelings, that’s the opposite of a definitive legal term. I’m not saying that’s what people agree with, I’m saying if that hypothetical scenario is possible and allowed then the child support option should be too.
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Men have the same rights as women when it comes to abortion. They both have the right to terminate a pregnancy that is happening in their bodies, within the limits of the law.

With current technology, all pregnancies exist in female bodies and that is why men don't get to choose to terminate their pregnancies. Men are never pregnant, so it wouldn't make sense for them to terminate a pregnancy. Saying men don't have a right to abortion is like saying women don't have a right to have their prostate removed. The right is there, they just don't have prostates to remove.

What you are talking about is a financial abortion, which is unavailable in most countries. Here, men and women have the same rights too. Neither can choose to financially abort a baby because society has decided that the baby's rights are more important than the parents' financial autonomy.

You may argue that financial abortions should be allowed and that is a discussion worth having. Just don't frame it as men and women having different rights because they don't. They have the same rights, but one of them lacks the body parts needed to become pregnant, thus making it impossible to actually exercise the right to terminate the pregnancy.