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CMV:PUA (game or pick up artistry) is a terrible idea

When you hear top PUAs talking about their success numbers, they are actually surprisingly low. There is no 'control' situation to test how effective PUA is, it might well simply be a numbers game.


If you read any of the classic PUA manuals, they carry with them values, ideals, templates for how to be, how to act, how to think. One has to 'take on', values, beliefs, behaviours etc. congruent with this in order for the guidelines to work and make sense-which causes problems if they do not chime with you.For example, there are a lot of indications about materialism, dominance etc. This presents a problem, what if you don't want to be a materialistic douchebag insecurely obsessed with 'being on top'?

Aside from this, it is actually quite draining and tiring to 'keep up the act', if the lifetstyle of 'PUA' does not match you.Another thing to mention here is that there can be a 'sef-hating' or masochistic vibe with Game. You get a lot of men being hard on themselves and deferring to other men who are raised up as gurus. This is classic cult behaviour.

Another entailment of the above is that PUA can lead you to put your actual personality into a strait-jacket which might either turn off or even horrify women who would otherwise be interested in, or attracted to you.

The conceptions of what a man is, that reign in this world are so narrow, so pompous, so dumb, so crassly materialistic and shallow that it makes me ill just thinking about it. Try to imagine the worst issue of Cosmo, then make it about men, and pick the worst ideal type it propagates, and this would be the persona to aspire to

It actually ends up putting women on a pedestal by making YOUR ENTIRE LIFE about picking up women, or doing things that enhance this

 Its portrayals of women are, if anything, even worse.The manuals portray women as cardboard cut-out histrionics with no self-control or sense of responsibility, and it speaks an awful lot about 'quality women' but this only ever refers to women who are good looking.practically everything else does not matter.

Contrary to popular belief, these manuals usually DO NOT teach you to feel entitled to women, or to feel you deserve women.They teach you the opposite, that if you ever fail to pick up a woman ever, it is YOUR FAULT and you need to go back and work on your game. Apart from being ridiculous and dumb, this turns you into a machine for getting numbers, getting 'lays' and so on...without any genuine purpose behind it.If you really are a confident, ambitious charming man, why are you treating these women like conquests in an atari game?

 A lot of the people I have seen that are into this stuff and continue with it seem very 'disconnected' and not integrated people.They seem to struggle with any kinds of intimate or long lasting relationships.


One of the biggest problems, and one I don't see critiqued enough, is that this stuff teaches you to expect that women will resist your advances and it presumes they will not have the hots for you.You will have to 'create attraction' and 'win her over'. Now I got a little lucky in that I was born with above average but not movie-star looks, and I have always had interested women around, I presume due to that, but even if you are average, why assume that no woman will ever desire you and that you have to always find a way to win her over or seduce her, or change her mind? It is not very kind to men and not fair to women who are perfectly capable of desiring men without being manipulated into it.

 I could go on forever but the final con I will give is the manipulative aspect. A lot of these manuals start out with weasel words about how manipulation is not a bad thing, or about how women are judged mainly on looks and look how dishonest they are by wearing makeup etc, if you are judged mainly on personality, whats wrong with adding a little sparkle or 'faking it till you make it'. I think the problem with this is, it violates what most normal people know to be true, your belief about yourself feeds into your positive self-regard and authenticity.If you are walking around tricking people and trying to deceive yourself , your not going to come across as genuinely happy, genuinely congruent and you are not going to think of yourself as a fundamentally good person.

I think  PUA is a terrible idea for these and for many reasons too numerous to include here.Change my view!
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Game is literally just the male version of countless female guides on how to attract, pick up, pleasure, and keep men that have been around for decades. If anyone, guy or girl, is interested in these things, what's wrong with reading guides laid out by other people who have had success in the areas that they want to be successful In?