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CMV: I don't think non-binary people are trans

**Intro/Disclaimers**

I believe gender is socially constructed and distinct from sex. Gender is what society sees you as. As a prime example, a trans woman's sex is male, but society sees them as a female. However, that does not mean to say I think gender is arbitrary or not grounded in reality. We observe strong sexual dimorphism and two reproductive roles; ergo have two genders. Some societies do have more than two genders, but they are simply looking at the same thing in a different way. For example, some societies may consider trans people to be an entirely different gender, whereas we would just see them as the gender they identified as.

I don't have any problem with people who call themselves non-binary. I don't believe they are lying for attention, nor do I believe it's a "post-modernist neo-Marxist" conspiracy. I am happy to call them by whatever pronouns they want to be called by.

**With That Being Said**

From what I understand, a person is trans where they are one sex, but their brain tells them they should be the other sex. This can cause depression and anxiety (Gender-dysphoria). The most effective way of treating gender dysphoria is transitioning so that the person's body more closely matches what their brain tells them it should be. It seems that being trans is caused by the person having a brain structure more akin to the opposite sex.

I don't see how this can apply to non-binary people. We are sexually reproductive beings; therefore there can only be two sexes because there are only two reproductive roles. People may bring up intersex people in an attempt to refute that, but I don't believe intersex people refute the idea that there are two genders any more than 3-legged people refute the idea that humans are bipedal. What would a non-binary person's brain tell them they should look like? What would their transition look like if it happened? I haven't found an adequate answer.

In all honesty, I believe people call themselves non-binary not because they're trans, but because they're conflating gender with masculinity and femininity. This causes what they say to make a lot more sense to me. For example, the idea that gender is a spectrum makes no sense. You can't be "more male" or "more female" than someone in the same way that you can't be "more alive" or "more dead" than someone; you just **are** male, or you **are** female. However, masculinity and femininity are different. They do, in fact, exist on a spectrum; you're not **either** masculine or feminine. You can be more or less masculine, more or less feminine, both, or neither. Most people have aspects of both.

I think non-binary people honestly don't see themselves as being particularly masculine or feminine or see themselves as both. As a result of this, they consider themselves to be non-binary.

However, just because you are not particularly masculine or feminine doesn't mean you are not male or female. You can be male (your gender) while not displaying the behaviours typical of males (masculinity). That is not the same thing as being transgender. I think this conflation of masculinity and feminity with gender is the root cause of the whole non-binary thing. Happy to hear opposing points of view.

**TL;DR** \- I think non-binary people are erroneously conflating masculinity and feminity with gender. Just because you're not feminine as a female doesn't make you not a female and doesn't make you trans.
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When someone identifies as a gender they were not assigned at birth, we call this person "transgender."  Under that definition, nonbinary people are transgender.

>I believe gender is socially constructed and distinct from sex.

Then what does sexual dimorphism have to do with anything?

>What would a non-binary person's brain tell them they should look like? 

I mean, if you're speaking about *physical* transition, some nonbinary people take certain hormones. Others may get surgeries. But "being transgender" isn't synonymous with physically augmenting one's body. Plenty of trans people don't get surgeries and don't take hormones. 

>What would their transition look like if it happened?

There isn't one answer to this. Some people take on mannerisms of both of the traditional binary genders. Others eschew all of those altogether. This question is similar to asking "what would biracial people even *look* like?" It's silly. There is no answer. It depends on the person.