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CMV: I oppose government-ordered, business-enforced vaccine mandates (USA)

To clarify a few things:

* I am not anti-vaccine
* I do not oppose mandates issued for public infrastructure (schools) or government workers
* I do not oppose private mandates issued by a private business

What I specifically oppose is the current way these mandates are rolled out. City / state / municipal governments enact a mandate / ordinance / law requiring that **businesses** enforce mask-wearing and vaccine-checking, at their own expense and with their own devices, and those businesses face fines or other legal action for failure to enforce.

What these governments haven't done is:

* commit police or other government personnell to enforce the mandates or assist with those who attempt to violate it
* commit to penalties against individuals who attempt to evade the mandates or become belligerent when doing so
* establish reliable systems of vaccine verification (like RealID for 21+ ID checks) or provide businesses with the hardware / software / training needed to use such systems

This results in minimum-wage, young employees being put on the fontlines of arguments, threats, escalated violence and of course the inherent health risk that comes with turning away anti-mask, anti-vaxx clientele, at the full expense to and liability of the buisness. In some cases, a business might reasonably conclude that the cost of violating the mandate is lesser than the costs of subjecting employees to harassment or making the financial commitments needed to enforce the mandate evenly. This completely defeats the purpose of such mandates in the first place.

We are in strange times and I understand that governments are seeking public health solutions to a grave problem - I am sympathetic to that challenge. However, I can't see how vaccine mandates in their current iteration are anything but a half-assed shirking of responsibility on the part of governments. CMV that these mandates are defensible in their current iteration.

EDIT: After a few days, no argument except those trying to paint me a hypocrite for not opposing any other given government regulation on business. My argument, very clearly, isn't *Regulation is bad, therefore mandates are bad -* it's that the mandates **as they are currently executed** aren't effective, aren't well-written, and place undue burden on businesses. No one has made an argument in favor of the mandates themselves, or are confusing patron-focused vaccine passports with Biden's attempt to use OSHA to force employers to mandate vaccines for employees.
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Isn't this a natural extension of how public safety regulations already work generally? Businesses are already required by OSHA to make their workplaces safe for their employees and by other government agencies to make their places of business safe for customers. This is at the business's own cost, and the government does not usually commit personnel to help businesses with the things. Why should masks and vaccination be treated differently?

>This results in minimum-wage, young employees being put on the fontlines of arguments, threats, escalated violence...

Well as soon as there are threats of violence, the government _would_ commit their personnel, namely the police.