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CMV: Being fat/obese/significantly overweight is a choice and should be frowned upon

EDIT:  **CMV: Being fat/obese/significantly overweight is a choice** **~~and should be frowned upon~~**

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For the sake of this, we will assume that one metric is used and that it is not discouraged/frowned upon.

With recent events exposing massive health problems in our country (USA), it reminded me of obesity and how it is something major and needs to be tackled. From my current understanding, it is a choice. I'm going to put some of the major points into short paragraphs. This can probably be broken up into 2 separate sections, pre-obesity and post-obesity, but I lumped them together. Additionally, I am discussing the AVERAGE human, not somebody with 15 rare conditions that grew up in poverty.

1. Education - While some people may not have proper education on exact specifics in health, it seems weird to me that they would have none at all. Everyone I've grown up has had some sort of "health class" starting at a relatively young age. If that was not done, then by the time people were in high school they had received some form of formal food & exercise recommendations.
2. Family Environments - Similar to the above, people may have even been encouraged to partake in unhealthy behaviors. Eating extra sweets, not exercising, etc. At some point, the education should kick in and go away with this.
3. "Personal Choice" - When people say they don't care that they're obese, I believe it's either lying to themselves or they don't realize it. There are many situations in life where obesity takes a toll. Mentally, physically, socially, etc. This would also imply that it IS their choice.
4. Money - This is probably a super legitimate issue. Most of the foods accessible by super low income is not very healthy. I'm sure with enough exercise, this could be overcome.
5. Time - If you say you don't have enough time, you're probably lying. There are things you can do to free up time and/or things during the day that can help burn calories (shaking leg, weighted vests, etc).
6. Mental health - Exercising releases endorphins. It should be used to combat mental health problems, not be a reason to not exercise. Understandably, some people might view it as mentally/physically taxing when already obese, but it can be overcome and could have also been addressed earlier.

7 - Physical deficiencies - Just because you have to work harder does not mean it is not possible. Choosing to not overcome the difficulties makes it a choice again. Unless there is a condition that instantly causes you to be obese from birth and unable to lose fat (does this exist?), then it would still be a choice.

This is downplaying it a bit, but I feel these are the major categories that people try and use to defend their position and reasons for being overweight. I would argue that this is a serious issue because being obese may result in the offspring, family, or other humans to then be obese due to ideologies, lifestyles, etc. Additionally, it will take many vital personnel out of the work force / add unnecessary stress when they inevitably suffer complications due to their obesity. Additionally, it worsens any scenarios like diseases, disasters, and makes everyday life more complicated.

Sorry for rambling a bit / not structuring a proper argument, just wanted to get this out there so that I can respond for a bit. I probably left a few things out so will likely edit / discuss in comments.
gpt
Most people know that being overweight isn't good for their health, and feel pressure / shame because of it.

But "frowning upon" / shaming people even more than people already do (which anecdotally people seem to do quite a lot) might actually make things worse. Because losing weight is hard, the shame and social pressure might just result in people feeling powerless and giving up, which isn't going to help. What choice are they left with but to stop caring?

It would seem like a more productive approach would be for more people to show greater understanding and support for other people and the struggles they go through, and accept that some people may not get there because it can be very challenging (including for reasons that may be outside the person's control, like disabilities, genetic predispositions, etc.).

This doesn't mean ignoring the problem, but is does mean changing how we think about it and treat each other. An analogy might be drug abuse. Shaming people is a pretty poor way to get people to quit, and just alienates people. Whereas approaches that include greater understanding and targeted, supportive, therapeutic approaches that make people feel empowered and give them options and support tend to be much more effective.