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CMV: Protections enabling transgendered people to choose the bathroom of the gender they identify with removes that protection for other people.

*I would call this a very specific part of the whole transgender bathroom issue, having less to do with pertinent issues than most other posts about this topic. For instance, there may be many other options available to legislatures and schools system that sidestep this issue entirely or resolve it in a different way. My View to be Changed is not about those things.*


In 2016, guidance was given to schools stating that:

**"A school may provide separate facilities on the basis of sex, but must allow transgender students access to such facilities consistent with their gender identity.
14 A school may not require transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity or to use individual-user facilities when other students are not required to do so. A school may, however, make individual-user options available to all students who voluntarily seek additional privacy"**

This is in the news now because Trump just rescinded this.

My view is that

1:Assuming only Male labeled bathrooms and Female labeled bathrooms in a school, and

2: That there are times when those bathrooms with have to be used by multiple people at the same time.

Then:

If you give protection to the right of transgendered people to choose the bathroom of the gender they identify with, your remove that same right from people who don't identify with transgendered people who were not born their gender.

ex: If 'A' is born a woman and transitions to a man, and identifies as a man, and uses a bathroom that has a man in it at the same time, and wishes to only use a bathroom of the same gender he identifies with because he is more comfortable doing so, his right to do so is protected under this guidance. 

If 'B' is born a man, and remains a man and identifies as a man, *and identifies men as those who are born men*,  and uses a bathroom that has a man in it at the same time, and wishes to only use a bathroom of the same gender he identifies with because he is more comfortable doing so, his right to do so is not protected. 

I apologize if this is not very precise or concise, that's why I am posting this, I haven't got it completely hammered down in my head. 

TL;DR
*If I walk into a Male bathroom, as a male, and see a woman there, who identifies as a male, his right to use the bathroom with the gender of people he identifies with has now superseded mine. Because from my perspective, I am now in the bathroom at the same time as someone who is not my gender.*
gpt
I think the problem here is that the issue with trans people is about them (using a bathroom that matches their gender identity) and your issue is about others (you don't want women who are transitioning, or men who have fully transitioned to use the same bathroom as you)


Those aren't the same thing.

If you are in a bathroom (labeled for men only) and a trans man is in there, too, then you both are in the bathroom of your gender identity. No ones rights are superseding anyone else's. 

If you are saying that you have the right to only have others you see fit in the bathroom you use, then wouldn't the trans man have that right as well?

So wouldn't you both be violating that "right" for the other? (assuming the trans person feels like you do.)


And so, again, no ones rights are superseding anyone else's.