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CMV: Asking a woman's father for permission to marry her is a sexist and outdated tradition

This has been a topic that I have debated with some women that I have dated in the past. I never did get an argument or perspective that made me feel comfortable in understanding why many women (at least within the United States) strongly wish for this tradition to be followed.

Let me elaborate on my point of view: if a woman and man (applying it to solely this relationship point since I don't believe many gay couples have this issue) are confident and open to the idea of marriage, then the two of them should be able to maturely and adequately choose to be married by consent of their own being. I understand the necessity of seeing the opinions of their parents, but for the man being expected to ask the father for blatant *permission* to ask for the woman's hand in marriage just comes off as a sexist tradition. It always came off to me as though the daughter was the father's property and had to get her father's consent before being allowed to *marry another man by ultimately her own free will.* 

If I wanted to marry a woman and she wanted to marry me, yet my parents were opposed to it, I'd say screw it. I am an adult with my own thoughts, beliefs, and feelings. I am intelligent and competent enough to know whether I truly wanted to marry another person or not. It should be left up to the woman and myself, not our parents. It's true that they may hold rejection on it for good reason, which I understand and would pay attention to. However, the women I have encountered seemed to feel that, if their father were to say no, then they would not marry me, regardless of their argument as to why; that is what irritates me the most.

Can someone help present to me a different perspective or argument that I have not covered in this post already? I am struggling to understand how so many women subject themselves to this. What if they hate their father or vice versa? In that circumstance, is this a tradition that simply isn't applicable to all couples? Or how could one argue that a woman should ask the man's mother for permission that is clearly not sexist nor out of tradition?

Please, reddit, help me change my view. Thank you for taking the time to read my wall of text.
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One point is that many people don't see this as asking for the parent's permission so much as their blessing. So although it almost certainly comes from the historical necessity of requesting ownership to pass from father to husband, it's now a way to demonstrate a potential husband's willingness to value their partner's family, and a way to bring the family into the celebration. Viewed as a blessing rather than permission, your arguments about being adults who can make their own decisions aren't as relevant. Even if a woman says she wouldn't marry you without that blessing, that might indicate more about how much she values her family than how much she values her own freedom.