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[Mod Post] Clarifications on rule E

Hi everyone, a few months back we implemented rule E to ensure that OPs participate in their CMV threads. However, we were unsure how to best enforce the rule and have been working on a case-by-case basis. While this mostly works it has caused some confusion among users who are reporting threads. We discussed making some guidelines for rule E and we've worked out the following to update the rule:  

1) If there are < 10 comments, we won't hold it against OP for not responding. The reason for this is because there may not be enough substantive counter arguments to OP to warrant a rebuttal.  

2) If the OP's responses are negligible (i.e., quick one-liners not in response to something like a simple question), it won't be enough to "preserve" the post.  OPs need to actually engage commenters.  

3) Similarly, if OP knows about rule E but comments in the thread that "I'll respond in the morning" or something similar we will remove the thread. We would prefer a PM letting us know that OP will return.  

4) OPs who appeal their removal and promise to participate can have their posts reinstated.  Rule E is not a death notice.  
 
5) OPs who exclusively respond to people agreeing with them doesn't really count as a strong reply. You need to actually engage with people who are countering your argument, not look for people who agree with you and bolster your own.  

6) Rule E is suspended during Fresh Topic Friday. This is because the moderators must manually approve each thread during this time, meaning some posts may not be approved until 2-3 hours after they're posted. Now, if 12-24 hours pass after we approve OP's thread and OP's thread has a decent amount of comments, it may qualify for rule E.  

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We've updated the rules page on the wiki to reflect these changes.
gpt
>If there are < 10 comments, we won't hold it against OP for not responding. The reason for this is because there may not be enough substantive counter arguments to OP to warrant a rebuttal.

I think this should be modified to 4 or 5 substantial top level comments.  Total comment count for the thread is a bit misleading, if two people get into a back and forth that can run the number up even if only one point/counterpoint is really at issue.  But if 4 or 5 top level comments have come up, then there's more stabs at it to the point where I'd expect a response from OP to at least one of them.