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CMV: Suicide is not *necessarily* an indication of mental illness.

It's common that if anyone expresses any desire to kill themselves they are automatically treated as mentally unfit, and hence it is seen as permissible for someone else - i.e. the state - to deprive them of their physical freedom and lock them up some where so they don't kill themselves. Now the reason given for this is that we are 'helping/protecting' them, which we often are. I am NOT saying a desire for suicide is never a result of mental illness, nor am I saying that mental illness is not USUALLY a factor either. But usually does not mean ALL.

 I don't see any reason why it suicide - lacking anything like being terminally ill or other extreme scenario -  can't just be a rational, fully autonomous choice that someone arrives at. Someone can be completely mentally sound, and say 'I think life is not worth living.' And decide to act on that by ending their own life.  If that is the case, then in such scenarios there are no moral grounds to force that person not to kill themselves. 

Now you can believe this, while also believing that we can have many well funded and publicly available mental health resources available for people of all socio-economic placements. But if you think that basic facts about the universe/life/human mortality/whatever make like not worth living, then NO amount of therapy is going to change those basics facts, and it does not stop suicide from being a rational choice.

And any argument that says 'I would never want to do that' or 'but I think life is so beautiful and worth living and la di da' those are based on your SUBJECTIVE values and experiences, and I don't see why such subjective values should be forced on someone else's relationship with their own body/existence.
gpt
Here's the thing.

It's already like that.

If someone truly, rationally decides they don't want to live anymore, they quietly commit suicide.   The state doesn't even know, and it's impossible for them to intervene.


If the state finds out, the only way that is possible is if they have made their intentions known.

This is a cry for help, and it is the duty of the state to answer that cry. 

 It's not the *intent*.   It's *declaring* your intent.