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human
CMV: No one should have guns. No guns would be more peaceful and less chaotic. Humans owning guns is bad.

Guns make things more extreme. So, if you are happy and on a hunting trip, you will derive even more pleasure from having a superior weapon. Guns in the hands of someone who is angry can become violent. Guns in the hands of those in a military mindset will use their weapon more responsibly. Guns in the hands of those who aim to good, allows them to do good. Guns in the hands of those in positions of power and used without reason or justice is bad. Also guns in the hands of those seeking to do evil, it is an extreme benefit because they can quite literally be a loose cannon and just bring destruction to wherever they see fit.

So, when you take all the pros and cons together, you see that the only benefits that can be derived from guns are by gun enthusiasts or people that use them in a utilitarian sense. The cons however are extremely bad and affect more people in a more general way. the cons affect EVERYONE, including those with guns and those without guns. 


ALSO, if everyone in that night club had possessed a fire arm, the casualties would have been tenfold. We are talking mass confusion no one knows who the shooter is, and they are all holding guns trying to figure out who the shooter is. so the first person to shoot the shooter would get shot because he is shooting someone. and then the person that shot them and so on. A chain reaction that would have been devastating.

Those of you who say that that the people in the club should have had to go to some type of gun safety course, that doesnt help the situation at all. Let's say all the occupants of this club had guns, and had been trained to use them the way we train the military, would that not be the absolute worst thing for police officers and authority figures? training someone to be as good with a gun as a soldier, but with 0 accountability, we would see just a breakdown of society. Armies of different groups of people gathering in the streets and with military skill, they'd be able to destroy any type of police opposition just based on their numbers and the mob mentality. and then what happens? the republicans start fighting the democrats in the streets? Or race wars? religious wars? I think people that are pro guns actually like gangs, and they like the instability and corruption of other countries because these are the steps to take towards chaos.

Don't make this thread about "how would you collect the guns?" and all those silly arguments. this is hypothetical. No guns = better standard of living.



EDIT: I also think that with a fast universal free healthcare system (like the ones of the future that are heavily automated) we can start to help the people with mental issues so that we can help them live better lives and help people around them have better lives too. I understand the mental health aspect.

EDIT EDIT: I misspoke about the Mongols. My bad. Let's get this back on track. Prove to me that guns are good and make life better.
gpt
If *literally* no one had guns, well... we've seen what that world looks like, and it's actually quite a bit more violent, because at that point, the strong rule and the weak do what they are told. It's called feudalism.

Guns are the great equalizer of democracy. The weak are no longer intrinsically subjugated to the strong. 

Governments are not more trustworthy than people. Look at history, they are the most violent and the most repressive organizations ever. 

But if you take away their guns, then and only then perhaps it could be safe to take away the guns of the people.