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CMV: It does not matter if fetuses are human.

I was writing a long post establishing and clarifying my confusion and disdain with public discourse on abortion. It seems either my values are so warped they're completely distinct from most people's, or most people just haven't seriously considered the fact that murder is sometimes a net positive. I deleted it, probably for the better, and I'm going to state my position here in a more straightforward manner.

I do not care if fetuses are humans. It is entirely irrelevant to my position on abortion. I don't think most abortions kill things that could be considered human, but even if they did, it wouldn't matter. Classifying things as people does not make their deaths more tragic in and of themselves. It is very sad when adults die, but that is because their death is usually meaningful to them and to other humans, not because they are humans. When unborn babies without the capacity to feel pain are removed to the betterment of all who ever knew of their existence, it should be trivial to tell the difference between me walking into a woodchipper. 

Assuming these month old conceived fetuses are babies, allowing women to kill their babies under this circumstance is good. Assuming they are not humans, allowing women to abort their pregnanices is good. Whatever the fuck you want to call it, it is the same action and it has the same consequences. Nobody suffers. These debates over whether or not a pack of cells is a member of our species is not in search of some objective characteristic that would make their death intrinsically worse, they're discussions of our own subjective interpretations of the definition of human. That definition and that social status has no bearing on the morality of our actions. Killing jewish people is not OK because your society did not choose to call them human beings. Conversely, killing fetuses is not somehow evil because you named them people and you think it means every death has the same weight of a murder of a live adult person.

Edit: It's three A.M. - heading to bed, will reply more in the morning.
gpt
> It is very sad when adults die, but that is because their death is usually meaningful to them and to other humans, not because they are humans.

So, thus, it's not sad if a street orphan dies, who no one knows about, or an elderly person living alone with no family or friends?

>When unborn babies without the capacity to feel pain are removed to the betterment of all who ever knew of their existence, it should be trivial to tell the difference between me walking into a woodchipper. 

Hmm, we could say the same about an elderly person on social security, living alone with no family or friends.