I understand, believe it or not, and there are any number of kinds of
conversation and communication I engage in that I wouldn't even consider
using this scheme for.  On the other hand, I don't see "Clipper" as providing
a secure channel--it just prevents casual eavesdropping.  This is part of why
I am not worried about it per se.  Trying to look at Clipper as a serious
security tool is simply ludicrous.  It's a voice scrambler, nothing more.

There is still plenty of market for real crypto.

They cost an arm and a leg, though. "Clipper" is obviously aimed at the mass
market.  It certainly won't put Cylink out of business.

This is old news.  I can do this now.

There ARE restrictions.  Example: We're a networking software vendor with a
large overseas share of our market.  We cannot currently ship PEM, or even
simple DES, in our products without case-by-case approval from the Department
of State.  ITAR presents a material trade barrier to US firms trying to
compete in international information systems markets.

Sure, you can use whatever freebie software you want to talk over BBS's in
the USA.  I, on the other hand, want strong crypto (PKCS, for example) to be
the *default* for electronic mail, worldwide.  I want priests to be able to
hear confession over email.  I want lawyers to be able to talk to clients in
confidence over email, or doctors talk with patients.  I want to be able to
order products from my favorite Japanese mail-order catalog over the net.  I
want to be able to sign contracts, transact business, and so on
electronically.

This is so far infeasible as a result of the current restrictions on
crytographic systems, especially beyond the borders of the USA.

Clipper is irrelevant, and if it distracts the authorities into feeling safe,
all the better.  Its only danger is if it emboldens them into trying to put
more restrictions into place, on the theory that it is "good enough for
anyone who has nothing to hide."  That argument is, of course, utter BS, just
as much as "no one needs an assault rifle".


I've used that reference, and found that I needed to go to their
original tech report:

	Maureen Stone and Tony DeRose,
	"Characterizing Cubic Bezier Curves"
	Xerox  EDL-88-8, December 1988

This report can be obtained for free from:
Xerox Corporation
Palo Alto Research Center
3333 Coyote Hill Road
Palo Alto, California 94303
+1-415-494-4440

The TOG paper was good, but this tech report had more interesting details ;-)


386DX 25Mhz   (DTK motherboard  Intel microprocessor)
  128k internal cache
  4 megs Ram
  89 meg Harddrive    (IDE controller)
  1.2 meg floppy drive
  1.44 meg floppy drive
  2 serial ports
  1 parallel port
  Samsung VGA monitor
  VGA graphics card
  101 key keyboard
  2400 baud internal modem

  MS-DOS 6.0
  Procomm Plus  ver. 2.0
  Norton Utilities  ver. 4.5
  other varius utilities

I'm upgrading and need to sell.  The system is reliable and ready to go.
I've never had any problems with it.

I'm asking  $1050 o.b.o.

If you're interested, please respond by either E-mail or phone.

TAE0460@zeus.tamu.edu
or
409-696-6043


The Fluke 87 beeps at you if you try to take it out of a current measuring
range while there is still a lead plugged in to the current sense socket.

... this should solve your problem - unless you are in a noisy environment.

JohnH

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	You and Mr. bobby really need to sit down and decide what
exactly Islam  *is* before posting here.

	According to 'Zlumber, one is NOT a muslim when one is doing evil.
[ A muslin can do no evil ] According to him, one who does evil is suffering
from "temporary athiesm."

	Now, would the members who claim to be "Muslims" get their stories
straight????

--

       "Satan and the Angels do not have freewill.
        They do what god tells them to do. "


We are working on gas-solid adsorption air-con system for auto applications.
In this kind of system, the energy for regenerating the adsorbent is from
the exhaust gas.  Anyone interested in this mail email me or follow up this
thread, we may have a discussion on prospects of this technology.

Max


    > be the site of major commercial activity. As far as we know it has no
    > materials we can't get cheaper right here on Earth or from asteroids
    > and comets, aside from the semi-mythic He3 that *might* be useful in low
    > grade fusion reactors.

   problem with 3He (aside from the difficulty in making any fusion
   reactor work) is that its concentration in lunar regolith is just so
   small -- on the order of 5 ppb or so, on average (more in some

   This thread reminds me of Wingo's claims some time ago about the moon
   as a source of titanium for use on earth.  As I recall, Wingo wasn't
 ...
   even 1% of the basalts are 5% TiO2, this is trillions of tons of TiO2
   at concentrations only a factor of 2-3 less than in lunar high-Ti
   basalts.  It is difficult to see how the disadvantages of the moon
   could be overcome by such a small increase the concentration of the
   ore (never mind the richer, but less common, terrestrial ores being
   mined today).

Why Paul, it's obvious.
Once chlorine chemistry has been banned on Earth,
as is being advocated by some groups, Ti prices will
sharply increase (we are of course not allowed to
assume any developments in Ti processing).
Lunar Ti will then be eminently competitive for
the trendy jewelry market and certain applications
of National Importance

:-) :-) :-)

(oops, this is sci.space... wrong rules of debate ;-)

Seriously, I'd say there is a flaw in Gary's analysis
in that he assumes an export oriented economy, maybe
the lunatics will just want some native Ti for local
use... as to why Lunar natives are cost effective,
analysis has shown they will be critical in providing
a sheltered manufacturing base, technological innovation,
critical materials and manpower in the war between
the Allies and Central Powers in about two hundred years...

;-)


AAAAAAAAAAAA!  RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

Then why are they in the process of systematically dismantling some of
their socialistic health care systems through privitization of key components?

If I hold a gun to your wife, would you respond the same way? I don't
think so. While the age of aquarius may have hit the White House, the
age of peace love and harmony hasn't hit in South Central LA nor has it
hit in former Yugoslavia. And as long as there are people in the world
who would rather see me dead than thrive, I want the protection of a
police force who will keep the peace so I *can* make love without being
shot.

The ultimate statement for equal rights (something many of the feminazis
have forgotten) is "I do not care if you are either a man or a woman,
I do not care if you are black or white, I do not care if you are gay
or straight." Once you can honistly say "I do not care about color,
race, or gender or sexual preference", then we will truly be on the
right track.

Keep shoving differences in my face and then expect us all to get along?
Get real! So long as you try to make me care if you are black, female,
or whatever, I am going to continue to balk. It's natural human behaviour.

But the moment employers searching for employees, banks looking to lend
money, and theClinton administration looking for appointees can honistly
say "I do not care about your color, race, gender, or sexual preferences;
I instend instead to treat you as a human being," crap like last year's
riots will continue to happen.

Barf.

You mean the same economic theorists who say things like "for the sake
of convenience in mathematical modeling we will first assume there is
no wealth creation" now get a crack at implementing their PhD thesis in
real life?

Go back to your textbooks on macroeconomic theory. Look in the first chapter
of that book, introducing the field of macroeconomic theory. Right there
in chapter 1, section 1, is a statement like the following:

	"As it is difficult to predict and model wealth creation,
	especially in an economy where wealth creation is inherently
	the province of individuals who create new inventions and
	discover new ideas, we will assume for the rest of this
	book that there is no wealth creation.

	"We do not assume the lack of weath creation in the real world,
	however the mathematical modeling of such an inherently
	unpredictable subject is impossible. Even though we assume
	no wealth creation, we do believe that for most mathematical
	economic modeling such an assumption is reasonably valid
	as it allows us to make predictions which then can be tested."

So the guys who are running the store for Clinton and company are now
assuming that wealth creation does not exists. They are (borrowing an
idea from the Hitchhiker's Guide) too advanced to think of these simple
things.

To be honist, I would rather have an engineer with years of experience
building bridges design the next bridge, rather than a theoretical
physicists with a freshly minted PhD and no experience do the same job.

					- Bill Woody


Nathan,
  Win31 has a fixed limit of 64K GDI memory, regardless of physical RAM
installed, this is twice that of Win30, but not nearly robust enough for
many developers and power users.

Using Amish Launch as your shell, you can reduce GDI memory usage by as
much as 15% over Progman, NDW 2, DAshboard, and other graphical type icon
based and other shells.  Also, nesting, and full hot-key global support
is offered, something no other shells have at this time.

Ted Matsumura, President
Amish Software, Inc.


: >> The death penalty was conceived as a deterrent to crime,  but the legal
: >> shenanigans that have been added (automatic appeals, lengthy court
: >> battles, etc.) have relegated that purpose to a very small part of what
: >> it should be.  Hence the question is,  do we instate the death penalty as
: >> it was meant to be, and see if that deters crime, or do we get rid of
: >> it entirely?

  I doubt the death penalty was supposed to be a "deterrent" to crime. If so,
why doesn't every crime carry a death penalty ? That would be effictive
wouldn't it ???

  The death penalty is a punishment, much like a $50 fine for speeding is
a punishment. Anyway, somebody with murder on the mind doesn't much care
about the consequences. I think another problem is that people dont think
they will get caught. If I wanted to kill another person, I wouldn't
care what the penalty was if I didn't think I would get caught.

  If it was to be strictly a deterrent, it should have been more along
the lines of torture.


<>
<>Does anyone out there know how to change the maximum request size for
<>a server
<
<It is ordinarily set to the highest value the underlying OS can

Yes, and you don't want to change this value if you're running Image type
applications.


[stuff deleted]

Then why not simply stop reading them. This isn't intended as a flame,
but your post reminds me of the old joke:
 Patient: "Doctor it hurts when I do this."
 Doctor: "Then stop doing that."


"Chimney Sweep" number 12/I (5-1/2 to 6-1/2"), closed edition,
3 or 4 line (Purchased in West Germany in 1970) (Retail $270)
Sell $120 (S&H extra)

I have a picture of it if you want to see first; in excellent
shape, no chips or cracks).

Great idea for Mother's Day.  This is a great buy.

Interested?  Please E-mail or call (415) 926-2664 wk
or (408) 248-0411 eves.


Unfortunately, you're wrong on both counts.  The most common method of
implementing a tunable receiver is to have a local oscillator.  The
local oscillator's frequency can be radiated out of the receiver via
the antenna unless the circuit is designed and constructed with great
care.

For a reference on detecting radios, get the paperback book _Spy Catcher_.
The author discovered how to detect radio receivers from their local
oscillator emissions back in the *1950s* while he worked for British
Intelligence.

  -Greg


A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the impact, not
from the fire.

	Thoughts?

	It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
to the previous ruling appear.

	Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be believed?
Shouldn't that be up to a jury?

	And what about members of the previous jury parading through the talk
shows proclaiming their obvious bias against GM?  Shouldn't that be enough for
a judge to through out the old verdict and call for a new trial?

	Whatever happened to jurors having to be objective?


	Unless God admits that he didn't do it....

	=)

---

  " I'd Cheat on Hillary Too."


(Disclaimer: I'm a sufferer, not a doctor.)

I'm not sure there's a really sharp distinction between allergic and
vasomotor rhinitis.  Basically, vasomotor rhinitis means your nose is
stuffy when it has no reason to be (not even an identifiable allergy).

Decongestants and steroid sprays work for vasomotor rhinitis.  Also,
I can get surprising relief from purely superficial measures such as
saline moisturizing spray and moisturizing gel.


Can anybody help me?

I am having a problem displaying images greater than 32768 bytes on a Sparc
IPC running Openwindows 3.0 and dni. My program runs on a Vax and displays
images on the IPC with no problems if I use Openwindows 2.0. The program uses
the following lines to display the image - it is the XPutImage() routine
that crashes.

	XImage          *ximage;
	ximage = XCreateImage(myDisplay, DefaultVisual(myDisplay, myScreen),
			      ddepth, ZPixmap, 0, image,
			      xwid, ywid, 8, 0);
	XPutImage(myDisplay, myWindow, myGC, ximage, 0, 0,
		  xpos, ypos, xwid, ywid);

The error I get is:-

XIO:  fatal IO error 65535  on X server "galaxy::0.0"
      after 30 requests (18 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
%XLIB-F-IOERROR, xlib io error
-SYSTEM-F-LINKDISCON, network partner disconnected logical link
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name     routine name                     line       rel PC    abs PC

                                                           000773B9  000773B9
                                                           00077BBE  00077BBE
                                                           0007259D  0007259D
                                                           00072741  00072741
                                                           00072840  00072840
                                                           00072A27  00072A27
MYXSUBS         my_imtoiks                       3184      00000093  000010AF
TEST            main                              293      000000E5  00000EE5

I have a simple test program if anyone would like to test it !!

Thanks Paul.

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I think the three-headed GM's guiding principle was to keep veterans
in favor of youngsters only if they offered a "significant" advantage.
At the end of last season, the contracts of several veterans with somewhat
maginal contributions (Fenton, Bozek, Anderson, and a couple others I
can't remember) were bought out. The idea was that youngsters could
play almost as well, and had the potential to improve where these
older guys did not.
And they traded Mullen, because he wanted to go, not because he
wasn't good enough, but I think they were a bit too optimistic
in thinking they could make up for his contributions.
An example from this season, Skriko was brought in on a trial basis
but not kept, because of his age. I thought he was a decent
contributor worth keeping around.

The youth movement has its advantages; look at Gaudreau who
might still be in KC if more veterans had been kept around. But
you have to find the right balance.


Excellently put!

Even as a libertarian, I have to admit government does do some things I
like.  There is a beautiful performing arts complex in Ft.  Lauderdale
that was partially built with tax dollars (I don't know how much was
private and how much was stolen, I mean public) but it is beautiful and
I enjoy it.  (Keep in mind, though, most of the people in the city will
never attend a single performance there, so they might feel differently
about having to help pay for it.)

However, I have to disagree about it being desireable or efficient to
give government intervention-power on a case-by-case basis.  In fact,
we have a lot better luck maintaining our freedom of speech precisely
because it is not decided on a case-by-case basis as much as other
issues.  Judges decide whether political speech is allowed on the
sidewalk in front of the post office.  They do not try to decide just
whether pro-nazi, pro-choice, pro-life, or pro-tax political speech
should be allowed on the sidewalk in front of the post office.  You can
imagine the result if right to free speech was decided by the majority
on a case-by-case basis.

Not so with economic issues.  Government does tell taxi-drivers exactly
what they can charge, but not the bus lines or the lawyers.

Just as it is not desireable to decide rights of free speech on a
case-by-case basis, we should not decide rights to free enterprise on a
case-by-case basis.

There is hope that a government can be restricted from interferring with
free enterprise.  But there is no hope, in my opinion, of having a
government that interferes with free enterprise in an "efficient"
manner; I call it political market failure.

Thus, if you value freedom and the abundance it produces, you have to
swallow the "whole libertarian agenda."


It is also widely stated (in non-mainstream sources) that the CIA had a
large part in the overthrow of the popular (and popularly-elected)
left-leaning Premier Mossadegh in 1953.  Is this widely recognized outside
the U.S.?  (I have never seen it mentioned at all in mainstream U.S.
media.)  How about within Iran?


I think the is BZ gas, not CS or CN. BZ gas exposure results in projectile
vomiting, loss of essentially all muscle control, inability to concentrate
or think rationally and fatal reactions in a significant fraction of
the population. For that reason its use is limited to military
applications.


: The key issue that I bought my BJ-200 on was ink drying speed.  You really
: have to try awful hard to get the BJ-200 ink to smear.  The HP DeskJets need
: 10-15 seconds to completely dry.  In both cases, however, do not get your
: pages wet.  Unlike laser printers, the material on your pages is INK, not
: toner.  But that should go without saying.


Well, I'm not a lawyer, but from what I can tell this is completely
and utterly untrue.

You see, this country has this thing called a "constitution".

If you legitimately aquire the device, and you yourself are
not a government employee or otherwise encumbered, I don't think they
can stop you from revealing anything about the device you can
determine. Remember the Pentagon Papers precedent? The First Amendment
applies here.

The U.S. does NOT have an official secrets act. We do have laws that
will punish you for revealing what classified information you learned
in your capacity as a government official, contractor, etc, and we
have laws that prohibit stealing such information. However, if they
sell you the chip, I can't see that they can make reverse engineering
it and revealing the details illegal.

--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com


Most of this discussion has been between Mark Singer and David Tate,
with Valentine weighing in on the same side as Dave at various times.
My opinion, FWIW, to all:

Mark, age doesn't matter; ability does. I would rather have the untried
rookie with great minor league numbers than the veteran who has proven
himself to be average at best. I don't care if he is 15; if he plays
better than what I have, I want him out there. Sandy Alomar had decent
minor league numbers, grossly inflated by the PCL in general and Las
Vegas in particular; he should have been projected as an average major
league hitter (which is good for a catcher, I'll admit). Santiago's
numbers would probably come out the same as Sandy's, but I don't have
the league data from the mid-80s to check it out.

That being said, I agree with sending Lopez to Richmond, at least to
start the season. As the box below shows, he has *one* minor league
season in which he hit well. He has two in which he hit very, very
poorly. I want to see that the 92 Lopez is real. Olson and Berryhill
are not complete mediocrities; for catchers, especially NL catchers,
they are essentially average hitters, with equivalent averages around
.220. If he had hit well at prior levels, I would say he belongs on
the Braves; but there is a reasonable chance that Lopez last year was
just as much a fluke as Alomar in 90 or Santiago in 87. One year at
any level, at any age, doesn't satisfy MY standards of evidence.

    JAVIER LOPEZ 1971
  1990 BUR    428  101  10   1   9    5    0   1  .179   33  .236  .245  .327
  1991 DUR    389   84   8   1   9   14    7   2  .175   29  .216  .243  .311
  1992 GRN    445  135  22   2  14   22    7   2  .271   71  .303  .336  .456
  1992 ATL     16    6   2   0   0    0    0   0  .306    3  .375  .375  .500
    MAJ        16    6   2   0   0    0    0   0  .306    3  .375  .375  .500
    MIN      1262  320  40   4  32   41   14   5  .213  133  .254  .277  .368
    TOT      1278  326  42   4  32   41   14   5  .214  136  .255  .278  .369
    MAJ       650  244  81   0   0    0    0   0
    MIN       630  160  20   2  16   20    7   2
    TOT       630  161  21   2  16   20    7   2

On a similar note, I don't understand why more people are not
supportive of Neon Deion. Granted, I thought his behavior with
McCarver last year was completely bush. Last year was the first time
he ever got 300 AB in one place, so his lines are hard to read. But he
has a combined 720 OPS in minor league play; with his speed is more
valuable than the OPS alone indicates; and at a still young age (24),
had a monster year with an 868 OPS. He has a total, major and minor,
EQA of .249; above major league average, and above average for CF
(which was about .240 in the NL last year). He has shown at least the
potential of going into the .290s, which would make him one of the 15
best hitters in the league. He has two full seasons before reaching
his "prime" season of 27. He should be considered as a legitimate
prospect, and not as a simple side-show attraction.

      DEION SANDERS 1968
  1988 FLA     21    8   2   0   0    1    1   0  .325    4  .381  .409  .476
  1988 INT     20    3   1   0   0    1    1   1  .086    0  .150  .190  .200
  1989 EAS    123   35   1   2   2    9   15   4  .257   19  .285  .333  .374
  1989 NYY     47   11   1   0   2    3    1   0  .222    6  .234  .280  .383
  1989 INT    263   70  11   4   6   18   15   6  .246   37  .266  .313  .407
  1990 NYY    133   21   2   2   3   13    8   2  .161    9  .158  .233  .271
  1990 INT     85   26   7   1   1   14    8   1  .312   18  .306  .404  .447
  1991 ATL    110   20   2   1   4   12   10   3  .201   12  .182  .262  .327
  1991 RIC    129   30   5   2   4    7   11   3  .230   17  .233  .272  .395
  1992 ATL    306   92  10  12  11   22   24   9  .295   60  .301  .348  .520
    MAJ       596  144  15  15  20   50   43  14  .245   87  .242  .300  .418
    MIN       641  172  27   9  13   50   51  15  .252   96  .268  .321  .399
    TOT      1237  316  42  24  33  100   94  29  .249  182  .255  .311  .408
    MAJ       600  145  15  15  20   50   43  14
    MIN       603  162  25   8  12   47   48  14
    TOT       601  154  20  12  16   49   46  14


Where's an ftp site for Trumpet?  (other than wuarchive, umich,..
something off the beaten path??)


And, had not these citizens accepted the moral responsibility to
protect their own lives, there could well have been at least
13 innocent victims lying dead and several criminals still out
walking the streets perpetrating their crimes on others.


Any clue? Some times when I enter Win 3.1 ProgMan says that I need to rebuild
a group! It's quite annoying!


I'm looking to find some people interested in getting some cd-rom's. Below
is a list with their prices. If you are interested in any of these, send me
some mail and I can guarantee this price. If you are not local their will be
a shipping cost, and cod cost if you prefer it to be shipped that way.
Marcus

American Business Phonebook             DOS             $20.00
Animals                                 DOS             $30.00
Animals                                 MPC             $30.00
Audoban Birds                           DOS             $20.00
Audoban Mammals                         DOS             $20.00
Barney Bear Goes to School              DOS             $30.00
Bible Library                           DOS             $45.00
Bibles and Religion                     DOS             $15.00
Book of Lists                           DOS             $30.00
Britannicas Family Choice               DOS             $23.00
Britamrica Select                       DOS             $24.33
Business & Economics                    DOS             $30.00
Business Backgrounds                    DOS             $20.00
Business Master                         DOS             $20.00
Carmen San Diego lWhere is ...)         MPC             $30.00
CD PLay/Launch                          DOS             $25.00
CD ROM  Software Jukebox                DOS             $20.00
CIA Vorld Taur                          DOS             $35.00
Chess Master 3000 MPC                   DOS             $35.00
CLassic Col lection                     DOS             $60.00
CLipert Goliath 		        DOS             $15.00
Colossal Cookbook                       DOS             $15.00
DeLorme's Atlas USA                     WIN             $25.00
Desert Storm                            MPC             $35.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles                DOS             $15.00
Dictionaries & Language                 DOS             $15.00
Education Master                        DOS             $20.00
ELectronic Home Library                 DOS             $35.00
Family Doctor                           DOS             $30.00
Family Encyclopedia by Comptons         DOS             $49.00
Family Encyclopedia by Comptons         MPC             $49.00
Game Master                             DOS             $20.00
Game Pack II                            DOS             $25.00
Golden Immortal                         DOS             $25.00
Great Cities of the World               DOS             $25.00
Greet Cities of the World               MPC             $30.00
Great Cities of the World II            DOS             $25.00
Great Cities of the World II            MPC             $30.00
Groliers Encyclopedia                   DOS             $60.00
Groliers Encyclopedia                   MPC             $60.00
Guiness Disc 1992                       DOS             $15.67
Ham Radio		                DOS             $15.00
Information USA	                        DOS	        $35.00
Islands Designs		       	        DOS	        $20.00
Jets & Props                            DOS	        $25.00
Jones ... Fast Lane		        DOS/MPS	        $25.00
KGB/CIA  World Fact Book	        DOS	        $25.00
Kings  Quest  5:	                DOS/MPC         $25.00
Library of the  Future	                DOS	        $90.00
Loom			                DOS	        $35.00
MPC  Wizard		                MPC	        $15.00
MacMillan  Kids  Dictionary	        MPC             $55.00
Magazine  Rack		                DOS	        $25.00
Majestic  Places		        DOS	        $20.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing             MPC	        $35.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose    	        DOS/MPC	        $25.00
Money,Money,Money,                      DOS	        $20.00
Monkey Island	                        DOS             $35.00
Oak CD Stand		                DOS	        $15.00
Our Solar System		        DOS	        $15.00
Presidents		                DOS	        $85.00
Publish It			        DOS	        $30.00
Reference  Library		        DOS	        $35.00
Secret  Weapons/Luftwaffe	        MPC	        $35.00
Shereware Games		                DOS	        $35.00
Shereware  Overload		        DOS	        $15.00
Sher Holmes/Consul Det	                MPC	        $35.00
Sleeping  Beauty		        DOS	        $20.00
Srd CD Software Bundle - 4 Titles       N/A	        $90.00
Stellar  7			        DOS/MPC	        $25.00
Story  Time - Interactive               DOS	        $25.00
The CD  ROM  Collection	                DOS	        $15.00
Time Magazine Almanac Current           DOS	        $35.00
Time Table of Hist/Sci/Innovation	DOS		$35.00
Tons & Gigs				DOS		$49.00
Too Many Typefonts			DOS		$15.00
Total  Baseball				DOS		$30.00
US  Atlas/w Automap			DOS		$35.00
US  History				DOS		$35.00
US/World  Atlas		                DOS/MPC	        $30.00
US Wars:Civil War			DOS		$25.00
Wild Places				DOS		$25.00
Wing Com/Ultima VI			DOS/MPC	        $35.00
World View				DOS		$25.00

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My wife has become interested through an acquaintance in Post-Polio Syndrome
This apparently is not recognised in New Zealand and different symptons ( eg
chest complaints) are treated separately. Does anone have any information on
it

Thanks


Two things that annoyed me about the PC Magazine review:

1.  Their benchmarking technique is seriously flawed, as was clearly shown
    by the Graphite and #9GXE's "cheating".  Can't they just admit that
    their benchmark is to easy to optimize for and/or cheat on?  WinTach
    is much harder to beat...

2.  The big "cheat" that Hercules/IIT used was overlappipping BitBlit and
    PolyLine optimization, and Hercules sent them a new driver which didn't
    do this -- but produced almost identical scores.  Yet, the only thing
    PC Magazine says is that scores are not "legitimate" -- couldn't they
    at least make some comment about its real-world performance?

I'm not so much going by WinBench for performance, but, rather, by Steve
Gibson's results, which are more real-world based (like using Micrografx

    "Despite these documented cheats, I have to say that in real-world
     applications the Hercules Graphite adapter actually draws faster than
     any other display adapter in the industry.   [...]  Even though it's
     just a modest ISA bus card, it outperformed every local bus adapter I
     have, including the Stealth 24 VLB, the Fahrenheit 1280VA/VLB, the
     ATI VLB Mach32 and even the Weitek P9000-based Diamond Viper VLB."

This kind of praise is enough for me to be interested in it, bogus WinBench
or not!  :)

I already returned the ATI GU+.  My dealer had sold eight of them, and
seven were returned to him.  I'm now (temporarily) back to running an
original ATI GU, until I get my Graphite.  And, yes, the GU is faster in
my 16 MB system than the GU+, especially in bitmap handling (that's where
you use BitBlits).

Hercules has a promotion available for VARs and software developers: you
can buy one Graphite or Graphite VLB for 50% off list to try it out.  At
just $199 for Graphite or $249 for the VLB version I decided it was worth
trying (I'm supposed to get the VLB board within two weeks).  I'll post
my impressions when I get it...


#
#I'm trying to write some code that lets me draw lines and do rubber-band
#boxes in Motif/X.  I'm running on an 8-bit display for which I've created a
#colormap and am using almost all of the colors.  I want to draw the lines
#in a drawing area widget -- a widget in which I'm displaying a bitmap using
#XPutImage().  If doesn't matter if the lines I draw interactively stay
#around when the window is refreshed.
#
#Currently, to draw interactively, I begin with:
#
#   /* drawIndex is an colortable index I reserve for the Foreground */
#   /* my_default_bg_color is the color index for the background of my image */
#   palette_colors[drawIndex].red =   palette_colors[my_default_bg_color].red;
#   palette_colors[drawIndex].green = palette_colors[my_default_bg_color].green;
#   palette_colors[drawIndex].blue =  palette_colors[my_default_bg_color].blue;
#   XStoreColors( myDisplay, my_cmap, &palette_colors[DrawIndex], 1);
#   XFlush( myDisplay);
#
#   XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXxor);
#   XSetForeground( myDisplay, gc, drawIndex);
#
#Then to draw I do:
#
#   XDrawLine( myDisplay, XtWindow( drawingArea1), gc, x1, y1, x2, y2);
#   XFlush( myDisplay);
#
#And when I'm all done, to return things to normal I do:
#
#   XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXcopy);
#
#
#What I'd like to happen is for the lines I draw to be the inverse of
#whatever I'm drawing over.  Instead what happens is I get white lines.  If
#the lines are over a white background - nothing shows up.  If the lines are
#over a black area - nothing shows up!  It's very strange.  But the GXxor
#function seems right - since if I do a rubber-banding box, it erases and
#redraws itself correctly (ie. not disturbing the underlying image).
#
#Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong?
#

I believe for this to work on a color display you must set the foreground of
the GC to be (foreground^background).

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------


Nope.  I'm pretty sure that this person knows how to take the ball out.
I think that what they want to do is take the mouse apart.  The old mouse
had four screws on the bottom that you could unscrew to do this,
while there's no obvious way to take the new one apart.


: I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A.  How can I make the system boot from
: my 3 1/2" B drive?  (Optimally, the computer would be able to boot
: from either A or B, checking them in order for a bootable disk.  But
: if I have to switch cables around and simply switch the drives so that
: it can't boot 5 1/4" disks, that's OK.  Also, boot_b won't do the trick
: for me.)
:
: Thanks,
:   Davebo
We had the same issue plague us for months on our Gateway.  I finally
got tired of it so I permanently interchanged the drives.  The only
reason I didn't do it in the first place was because I had several
bootable 5-1/4's and some 5-1/4 based install disks which expected
the A drive.  I order all new software (and upgrades) to be 3-1/2 and
the number of "stupid" install programs that can't handle an alternate
drive are declining with time - the ones I had are now upgraded.  And
as for the bootable 5-1/4's I just cut 3-1/2 replacements.

If switching the drives is not an option, you might be able to wire up
a drive switch to your computer chasis.  I haven't tried it but I think
it would work as long as it is wired carefully.


I am sure you didn't miss the implication that we could have another
Richard Nixon type president in the future (perhaps not too distant
future, acutally).  With that in mind, then I take it you also would
not object to the Gov coming up with a decision (not proposal - just
like Clinton Cripple is a decision, not a proposal) sprung on us to
start placing video cameras with sound in every room of your house,
which could be activated without your knowlege.  They would be well
concealed so you wouldn't know the location, to prevent you from covering
the lens opening.  After all, nothing you're doing would be of the
slightest interest to a government official, right?  So, you surely
should not object to such a proposal...

Not the best anology, but the principle is pretty close - the ability
to eavesdrop on your activity with little or no effort, without your
knowlege, protected by entirely by "government safeguards".  You can
still draw your curtains, so you can still have your privacy from everyone
else (except Big Brother)!!  After all we need this for protection from
drug dealers and terrorists and other criminals (like 'enemies of the
STATE')... and you don't really have a right to "unbreakable" privacy
anyway, sort of as the press release of the Clinton Cripple DECISION
puts it...

I find it curious they use the word "unbreakable" when the term really
should be "difficult to break without proper authorization" (which the
Government most certainly has at their disposal, right?  They wouldn't
want to be able to break it ILLEGALLY, would they?)...  Nawww, not
"for the People" Clinton....

Can you, while my mind is on it, give us one good reason that the
algorithm should be a secret algorithm, unless this encryption scheme
either is a joke, or contains features like a 'master key' or other back
door for UNAUTHORIZED eavesdropping? If it was really even moderately
secure, and the government really meant to require the proper court
order and the keys that are in the Escrow accounts to be able to decipher
the traffic, what is the need to keep the algorithm secret?  Seems I
hear rather often that if an encryption scheme requires the algorithm
to remain a secret to be effective, it is not a worthwhile scheme... is
this just idle talk, or is the Administration bullshitting everyone?

With GREAT skepticism, and many doubts on our Administrations intentions...

And WAIT!! We haven't been told the NEXT gem the Administration has in
mind for e-mail and datafile security.  The press release does say that
this is part of a comprehensive thing on data security for us unprivileged
citizens.  Perhaps 'subjects' would be the better term - 'citizens'
somehow does not seem appropriate... that implies a free people, 'subjects'
better fits a population who serve at the pleasure of their rulers.
One thing for certain:  The government no longer regards the citizens
as their bosses anymore, but the other way around...


I am looking for an algorithm to determine if a given point is bound by a
polygon. Does anyone have any such code or a reference to book containing
information on the subject ?

		Regards


Hello folks, I've a super scope 6 for sale, it comes with a
CRT and all boxes and instructions included $50 shipping included.
I got that only a month back and used only twice.


I'd be happy to US (international) Snail mail technical information on
imaging databases to anyone who needs it, if you can provide me with your
address for hard copy (not Email).  We're focusing mostly on Open PACE,
Oracle, Ingres, Adabas, Sybase, and Gupta, regarding our imaging
databases installed.  (We have over 1,000 installed and in production now;
most of the new ones going in are on Novell LANs, the RS/6000, and now HP
Unix workstations.)  We work with Visual Basic too.


with
model
toward


  A remark I heard the other day is beginning to take on increasingly
frightening significance.  The comment was made that "In other parts
of the world the Democrats [note the big "D"] would be known as
Socialists"

  A [note the small "d"] democrat who wonders what Thomas Jefferson, on
this the 250th anniversary of his birth, would have thought of the state
of affairs between the government and the governed.

------- Any views expressed are those of myself and not my employer. --------
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Hi

I am looking for Image Analysis software running in DOS or Windows. I'd like
to be able to analyze TIFF or similar files to generate histograms of
patterns, etc.

Any help would be appreciated!

__________________________________________________________________________


I'm sure Intel and Motorola are competing neck-and-neck for
crunch-power, but for a given clock speed, how do we rank the
following (from 1st to 6th):
  486		68040
  386		68030
  286		68020

While you're at it, where will the following fit into the list:
  68060
  Pentium
  PowerPC

And about clock speed:  Does doubling the clock speed double the
overall processor speed?  And fill in the __'s below:
  68030 @ __ MHz = 68040 @ __ MHz

Thanks very much.  I'd appreciate hearing any further explanations
from any experienced folks out there, too!

P.S.  Folks have been having trouble replying to me lately with the "reply"
      command.  Try typing my address by hand and it should work.  Thanks!


#>In article <1993Apr15.222600.11690@research.nj.nec.com>
#>>  ...
#>> 	Several chemists already have come up with several substitutes for
#>> R12.  You don't hear about them because the Mobile Air Conditioning
#>Society
#>> (MACS), that is, the people who stand to rake in that $300 to $1000 per
#>> retrofit per automobile, have mounted an organized campaign to squash
#>those
#>> R12 substitutes out of existence if not ban them altogether (on very
#>shaky
#>> technical grounds, at best, on outright lies at worst).
#>>  ...
#>
#>Now, I'm not saying you're wrong because I know that the R-12 substitutes
#>exist, but this sounds a lot like the 200mpg carbs that the oil companies
#>keep us all from getting.
#
#	It sounds crazy, but it's true.  One of the best R-12 subsitutes,
#GHG-12, is currently a commercial product.  Unfortunately, the SAE committee
#on mobile air conditioning is comprised almost exclusively of MACS members.
#Such being the case, no papers about any alternative refrigerant other than
#R-134a have been accepted for review/publication.
#
#	Yo, John?  You want to provide some more details?  Or should I just
#repost your voluminous repost?
#
#Later,
#--
#Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114          1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
#behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	          1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
#Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC	  1991 ZX-11 - needs a name
#agree with any of this anyway?    I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.

    We here are *VERY* interested in info on R12 substitutes (in fact I
 think we really need all the info on this we can get).

    I would really appreciate technical, supply, and hardware-upgrade
 details.

   Also, R12 is a useful solvent/reagent in the extraction/production of
 certain pharmaceuticals.  Any info on the substitutes' corresponding
 usefullness?

    I am currently working with the local engineers who are making sure
 we are compliant with the regulations.  The trouble with regulations is
 that they only tell you what you are no longer permitted to do, not what
 you should do instead.

     I think the cause of the new regulations is the Montreal Protocol
 which has a definite CFC-phase-out schedule.  (Of course the cause of
 the Montreal Protocol was all the research done on the causes of the
 Ozone Depletion Problem.)

     Someone asked earlier about why the governments were working so fast
 to ban the ozone-depleting (CFC) chemicals and not gasolines and other
 greenhouse-gas-producing compounds.  The greenhouse effect (produced by
 infrared-trapping gasses like CO2 and methane) and the ozone-hole problem
 (produced by long-lived, chlorine-containing molecules) are not the same
 thing.  It is a lot easier to do something about not using the CFC's
 (chloro-fluorocarbons) than it is to stop producing CO2 and methane which
 are natural byproducts of combustion and of living (animal) organisms.
 Planting more trees and not destroying so many existing trees would help
 the greenhouse-gas problem, but would do nothing for the ozone problem.

 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
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The Cold War has not ended.  The only thing that has happened is that
the two sides have exchanged roles.

The USA has a higher imprisonment rate (400 per 100,000 population)
than any country in Europe by a factor of 10 or so.  In California,
it is over 600 per 100,000 population.  The prison population in
California is now over 100,000, a quadrupling since 1980.  Most of
these inmates were convicted under the drug prohibition laws.  Police
now confiscate property, without trial, under a "good faith probable
cause" standard, in the name of depriving the horrible ghastly drug
dealers of their ill-gotten gains.  Conduct an opinion poll, and a
majority will answer "yes" if you ask them whether civil liberties and
due process should be diluted in order to Send Our Young People The
Message That We Are Serious About Winning The War On Drugs.  I don't
know whether anyone has measured such a figure among gun owners, but
I would expect the same result.  They certainly seem to vote that way.

According to Jack Herer's book _The Emperor Wears No Clothes_, over
TWELVE MILLION YEARS of prison time have been served under the
marijuana prohibition laws, by people who were minding their own
business and causing no harm to others (and less harm to themselves
than users of tobacco, with 400,000 confirmed kills/year).  Under
the "War on Drugs" campaign of "zero tolerance" due process protections
have eroded, and mandatory sentences of ten years without parole have
proliferated.  By and large, gun owners have voted for the politicians
who favor such measures.  And now, all the precedents--not only
legal, but political:  "My fellow Americans, we must send our young
people the message that we are serious about winning the War On
Murder"--are going to be applied to the oncoming wave of gun
prohibition laws.  Gun owners are about to get a taste of the medicine
they voted for believing it would be used only on those with different
tastes in recreational drugs.

What goes around comes around.


you  need to massage few switches in your system.ini.
in the virtual memory section, flip the 32bitaccess switch on and the
associated driver (wdctl or some such) switch on.  this will enable
32bit access, but be sure you can use it, as not all hard drives
and controllers support it !

...for seriously fast disk access:

1)  throw out WINDOZE
2)  install OS/2

i did this weekend - OS/2 is incredible.  finally a REAL OS for
the humble PC  :)


General question: Since the world was discovered to be
round, the definition of Saturday is, if not ambiguous,
at least arbitrary. How would someone answer this?

Also, when the calendar was changed (Gregorian to Julian?)
was the day of the week changed or just the date? Once again
this points to the arbitrariness of the days.

Chris Mussack


#
# I've gotten very few posts on this group in the last couple days.  (I
# recently added it to my feed list.)  Is it just me, or is this group
# near death?
#

Seen from the mailing list side, I'm getting about the right amount of
traffic.

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered  - Lazarus Long
a capital crime.  For a first offense, that is            From the Notebooks of
							  Lazarus Long

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------


   An addition to anti-discrimination laws which includes homo and bisexuality
? One would assume it would be because politicians were listening to the people
coming up with rational arguments rather than variations on bigotry. Logic
sometimes prevails.
   BTW, glad to see that you've admitted sexual attraction to children is a
seperate sexual orientation. Didn't think you had that much honesty.


A Sea Doo is a boat. It turns by changing the angle of the duct behind the
propeller. A waterski bike looks like a motorcycle but has a ski where each
wheel should be. Its handlebars are connected through a familiar looking
steering head to the front ski. It handles like a motorcycle.


Not even in sub panels!  The only place the neutral should be connected to the
ground is in a SERVICE DISCONNECT!  In your house the "main" panel serves as
the service disconnect.  Sub panles in your garage or workshop for example must
maintain seperate neutral and ground busses because they are not  service
disconnect equipment.


Chemical weapons are not concidered a *very* effectiv weapon against
millitary forces. On civillians on the other hand....

That's one GOOD reason for banning it.

You need VAST amounts of chemicals to be affective, so the best reason
to have/use it is price. (that's why it's called The Poor Mans A-bomb)

Any thoughts on Bio-weapons ??

If this discusion is about civillians having chem-weapons;
What should they use them on?? Rob a bank ??

	This is not a .signature.
	It's merely a computergenerated text to waste bandwith
	and to bring down the evil Internet.


It's Stankiewicz, not Stankowitz, and he's not Jewish - he's Polish
(by the way, the correct pronunciation - according to Stanky himself,
is "ston-KEV-itch". all the sportscasters get it wrong)

The only other Jewish ballplayer I can think of is Ron Blomberg, who is
best known as being the first DH to appear in a major league ballgame.


Not this time, Enis. Furthermore, a new generation has risen - equipped
with a deep sense of commitment, politically mature and conscious, who
determinedly pursue the Turkish Cause, through all necessary means,
ranging from the political and diplomatic to the armed struggle. In
other words, what we have is a demand from the fascist government of
x-Soviet Armenia to redress the wrongs that were done against our
people.

 "The crime of systematic cleansing by mass killing and extermination
  of the Muslim population in the Soviet Republic of Armenia, Karabag,
  Bosnia and Herzegovina is an 'Islamic Holocaust' comparable to the
  extermination of 2.5 million Muslims by the Armenian Government
  during the WWI and of over 6 million European Jews during the WWII."
                  (Tovfik Kasimov - Azeri Leader - September 25, 1992)

 "Today's ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against
  Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic
  of Armenia's against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,
  are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide
  perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the
  Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these
  lands."         (Cebbar Leygara - Kurdish Leader - October 13, 1992)

Serdar Argic


About a month ago there was a photo posted on
alt.binaries.pictures.misc of a 17.5-inch Northern Pike which had been
caught on a lure made of 256K SIMMs.

--


[Deletions]

Geez, Dal must have slipped something into Ted's drink sometime.  Comparing
Prince to Pagnozzi offensively is laughable.  Prince has never hit well in
the minors and he's now 27 years old, I think.  Pagnozzi was not a bad hitter
in the minors.  (I'll bring in the numbers tomorrow assuming I don't have
another brain cramp and forget.)  He had a very good year at Louisville
before coming up to the majors.  As I recall, the hype on Pagnozzi coming up
in the organization was good hit, decent fielding.  When he got to the
majors and didn't hit as well as expected (not as much playing time?), he
became Exhibit 312 in Nichols' Law of Catcher Defense and got the reputation
as an outstanding defensive catcher.  It's not clear he ever learned to
hit.  His four years with more than 100 AB--

Born 31 July 1962
Year     AB      BA     SLG     OBA
1988    195    .282    .320    .328
1990    220    .277    .373    .321
1991    459    .264    .351    .317
1992    485    .249    .359    .290

No power, less-than-league-average walks, peak year when he turned 28,
now declining.  If Ted is going to invoke Pagnozzi as a model for Prince,
given that Prince has underperformed Pagnozzi in the minors, it's not
a rosy picture.

BTW, I'm still unhappy with moving Zeile, who had the same reputation
coming up in the Cardinal organization as Pagnozzi, except that he was
a much, much better hitter, to 3rd where he could be an average hitter
and a below average fielder instead of a well-above average hitter
as an average (or below average) fielding catcher.

Harold


    INTENSIVE JAPANESE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH THIS SUMMER
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The University of Pittsburgh is offering two intensive Japanese language
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Intensive Intermediate Japanese, are ten week, ten credit courses
each equivalent to one full year of Japanese language study.  They begin
June 7 and end August 13.  The courses meet five days per week, five hours
per day.  There is a flat rate tuition charge of $1600 per course.
Fellowships available for science and engineering students.  Contact
Steven Brener, Program Manager of the Japanese Science and Technology
Management Program, at the University of Pittsburgh at the number or
address below.
ALL INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY, THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO
UNIVERSITY STUDENTS.

#######################################################################
#################   New Program Announcement   ########################
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            JAPANESE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM

The Japanese Science and Technology Management Program (JSTMP) is a new
program jointly developed by the University of Pittsbugh and Carnegie Mellon
University.  Students and professionals in the engineering and scientific
communitites are encouraged to apply for classes commencing in June 1993 and
January 1994.

PROGRAM OBJECTIVES
The program intends to promote technology transfer between Japan and the
United States.  It is also designed to let scientists, engineers, and managers
experience how the Japanese proceed with technological development.  This is
facilitated by extended internships in Japanese research facilities and
laboratories that provide participants with the opportunity to develop
long-term professional relationships with their Japanese counterparts.

PROGRAM DESIGN
To fulfill the objectives of the program, participants will be required to
develop advanced language capability and a deep understanding of Japan and
its culture.  Correspondingly, JSTMP consists of three major components:

1. TRAINING IN THE JAPANESE LANGUAGE
Several Japanese language courses will be offered, including intensive courses
designed to expedite language preparation for scientists and engineers in a
relatively short time.

2. EDUCATION IN JAPANESE BUSINESS AND SOCIAL CULTURE
A particular enphasis is placed on attaining a deep understanding of the
cultural and educational basis of Japanese management approaches in
manufacturing and information technology.  Courses will be available in a
variety of departments throughout both universities including Anthropology,
Sociology, History, and Political Science.  Moreover, seminars and colloquiums
will be conducted.  Further, a field trip to Japanese manufacturing or
research facilities in the United States will be scheduled.

3. AN INTERNSHIP OR A STUDY MISSION IN JAPAN
Upon completion of their language and cultural training at PITT and CMU,
participants will have the opportunity to go to Japan and observe,
and participate in the management of technology.  Internships in Japan
will generally run for one year; however, shorter ones are possible.

FELLOWSHIPS COVERING TUITION FOR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE COURSES, AS WELL AS
STIPENDS FOR LIVING EXPENSES ARE AVAILABLE.

        FOR MORE INFORMATION AND APPLICATION MATERIALS CONTACT

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Please note that this is directed at grads and professionals, however, advanced
undergrads will be considered.  Further, funding is resticted to US citizens
and permanent residents of the US.


[Sarcastic text deleted, No value judgement implied]

At first I was going to complain that your analogy was completely
irrelevant.  But then I remembered something.

Remember that move to get the U.S. to the metric system all those
years ago?  As far as I know we were supposed to be there by now.

The government sold it as better for the people, easier to be in
tune with the rest of the world.  They had decided it was for
our own good.

Then, when the plan was released, it soon became apparant that the
government were a bunch 'o' thickies.

Think about it, change all the railroad track widths, signs,
screws, abolish the old regime.

At the cost of millions of dollars.

Your point is well taken.  You think there is nothing to worry
about, you could care less who designs your cryptography, any
more than who designs your screws or the system of measurement
you use.

Sit back, that's right, just relax, we'll take care of all your
needs Mr. Molitor.


--
MoOLIT (Motif/Open Look Intrinsic Toolkit allows developers to build
applications that can switch between Motif and Open Look at run-time,
while OLIT only gives you Open Look.


While driving through the middle of nowhere, I picked up KNBR, AM 1070,
a clear-channel station based in Los Angeles. They had an ad
claiming that they were able to get traffic flow information from
all of the thousands of traffic sensors that CalTrans has placed
under the pavement. Does CalTrans sell this info? Does KNBR have
an exclusive? What's the deal?


30mg per day of propranolol is a homeopathic dose in migraine.
If you got fatigued at that level, it is unlikely that you will
tolerate enough beta blocker to help you.

Probably a single nightime dose.  We don't know how they work in migraine, but
it probably has something to do with seratonin.
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And who is responsible for it not happening?
Certainly not the children.  Koresh was calling the shots.  He was
talking with his lawyer and the FBI.  Since others were released safely,
there is no sane reason for keeping the children inside the compound.

Not at all.  Are you a Koresh worshiper?

Thanks for my laugh of the day!  Definitely a very silly supposition.

I would if I could.  The news show that showed the lengthy excerpts also
had interviews with the filmmaker who made the documentary who basically
confirmed what was shown in the excerpts from the time he spent at the
compound in 1992.

I believe that this was reported by local radio reporters on site.
A fire started in a three story tower at the same time as the two
story window shown on the tv coverage.

I thought about mentioning how Reagan and the military treated the press
in Grenada and how that set the precedent, but decided it wasn't worthy
of discussion.  If the news reporter got shot, you can bet his family
would sue the government for letting him into the danger area.

The root cause of suspicion in my mind is why 100 people wouldn't flee
a building that had numerous exits during the 30 minutes time it took
to burn down.  Or why didn't they flee hours earlier when the tear gas was
first introduced?  I can find no rational explanation for their behavior.


For me, it would be an obvious choice: Armed self-defence is clearly
and strongly protected by the Colorado Constitution and the laws
of the state. In the very clear-cut situation of your hypothetical,
I wouldn't have anything to fear from the police (unless I had been
publicly carrying the weapon concealed, something I'm not in
the habit of doing... Even then, the worst I'd have to deal with
was a class 2 misdemeanor.) Even if the situation were not so
clear, and I might have to worry about arrest for manslaughter or
homicide, it would still be safer to wait for the police. If
I were to leave and try to avoid police involvement, I'd be committing
several felonies and ruining my chances of claiming self-defence
in court ("If it really was self-defence," the prosecuter would
ask, "why did you run away and hide from the police?")

In other states, however, this decision might not be so clear-cut:
If someone in, say, Washington D.C. were to use a gun in self-defence
he would _automatically_ be guilty of several felony violations of
that city's gun control laws. Such a person's choices would be
between certain conviction for a couple of felonies versus possible
conviction for half a dozen.


: >
: >: From a business point of view, it might make sense.  It depends on
: >: the personality of the practitioner.  If he can charm the patients
: >: into coming, homeopathy can be very profitable.  It won't be covered
: >: by insurance, however.  Just keep that in mind.  Myself, I'd have
: >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >
: >In many European countries Homepathy is accepted as a method of curing
: >(or at least alleiating) many conditions to which modern medicine has
: >no answer. In most of these countries insurance pays for the
: >treatments.
: >

: Accepted by whom?  Not by scientists.  There are people
: in every country who waste time and money on quackery.
: In Britain and Scandanavia, where I have worked, it was not paid for.
: What are "most of these countries?"  I don't believe you.

In Holland insurences pay for Homeopathic treatment. In Germany they do
so as well. I Austria they do if you have a condition which can not be
helped by "normal" medicine (happened to me). Switzerland seems to be
the same as Austria (I have direct experience in the Swiss case).

At the Univeristy of Vienna (I believe Innsbruck as well) homeopathy
can be taken in Med. school.

I found that in combination with Acupuncture it changed my life from
living hell to a condition which enables me to lead a relatively
normal life. I found that modern medicine was powerless to cure me
of a *severe* case of Neurodermitis (Note: I mean cure, not
surpress the symptoms, which is what modern medicine attempts to
do in the case of Neurodermitis).

I'm not saying that Homeopathy is scientific, but that it can offer
help in areas in which modern medicine is absolutely helpless.

From reading your aritcle it seems that your have some deeply rooted
beliefs about this issue (this is not intended to be offensive or
sarcastic - it just sounded like that to me) which makes me doubt
if you can read this with an open mind. If you do/can, please excuse
my last comment.


L(>  |JB>  1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...
L(>
L(>  |  I'm glad it caught your eye. That's the purpose of this forum to
L(>  | educate those, eager to learn, about the facts of life. That phrase
L(>  | is used to bridle the frenzy of all the would-be respondents, who
L(>  | otherwise would feel being left out as the proper authorities to be
L(>  | consulted on that topic. In short, it means absolutely nothing.
L(>
L(>  An apt description of the content of just about all Ron Roth's
L(>  posts to date.  At least there's entertainment value (though it
L(>  is diminishing).

     Well, that's easy for *YOU* to say.  All *YOU* have to do is sit
     back, soak it all in, try it out on your patients, and then brag
     to all your colleagues about that incredibly success rate you're
     having all of a sudden...

     --Ron--


: no rear tires as small as 110/90. There are some fronts though.

	So get a 120/90 instead. Is there anything that size?

: Any other recomendations?
:
	Call the tire companies yourself and tell them what you have.
They can make recomendations for you. That's your best bet. Check a biker
magazine (Cycle World etc) for phone numbers.
It's possible there are no other tires available though.

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  Erik Astrup                  AFM #422                              DoD #683

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours  *  1989 Ninja 250


Excerpts from cmu.comp.sys.mac: 5-Apr-93 Re: SE Serial Port Speed???? by
Samuel John Kass@andrew.
actually a 14.4 kbps modem using standard compression (v3.2 v4.2.bis?)
cna reach 57,600 bps, however I have not seen any server modems that
have hardware compression.  I have been told the annex modems here break
up at ~36k, but I have never seen faster than 14.4kbps.


I agree.  Where in the Gospels does Jesus advocate any of the actions
you mention?

I couldn't find "witch" or "sorceress" in my concordance.  Is there
something in the Epistles about witches?  (I'm still working my way
through the Gospels.)

JJ


Maybe it milks the dogcow? 9-)

Lots of drivers are available off ftp.cica.indiana.edu in pub/pc/win3/
drivers/video. I've tried two: et4cview.zip and et4turbo.zip. These
give you a choice of turbo and non-turbo drivers. The turbo drivers
were FAST but caused mouse problems with my machine (which has a
Diamond Speedstar card). I finally got turbo drivers (wndSpeed by
Binar) from Diamond. Amazing. Blazingly fast (for a non-accelerated
card) and best of all - no GPF's for a month or so...

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[...]

I am not an expert. My understanding is the watts output of the power
supply must exceed the sum of the hard disk watts requirement.

Typically, a 200W power supply is sufficient to power a PC.

Hope this help.

Lau Hon-Wah


Well, it seems the "National Sales Tax" has gotten its very
      own CNN news LOGO!

      Cool.  That means we'll be seeing it often.

      Man, I sure am GLAD that I quit working ( or taking this
      seriously ) in 1990.  If I kept busting my ass, watching
      time go by, being frustrated, I'd be pretty DAMN MAD by
      now.

      YEAH!  Free HEALTH CARE!   Oh, yeeaaaahhhh!

      heh heh

      " Bill makes me feel like DANCING! "

      MORE AMAZING PREDICTIONS FROM THE INCREDIBLE BROMEISTER!
      --------------------------------------------------------

      We take you back to Feburary 20th, when the INCREDIBLE
      BROMEISTER PREDICTED:

	  " $1,000 per middle class taxpayer in NEW TAXES "

          " A NATIONAL SALES TAX "

      Now, for more AAMMMAAAAZZZZZZIINNNNGGGGG Predictions!

      i)   The NST will be raised from 3% to 5% by 1996.
	   Ooops.  They ALREADY DID it.

	   Okay, then.  The NST will be raised from 5% to 7% by 1996.

      ii)  Unemployment will rise!

      iii)  Tax revenues will decline.  Deficit will increase!
	    We'll get another DEFICIT REDUCTION PACKAGE by 1997!
	    Everyone will DANCE AND SING!

      Yup.  I'm gonna <glancing at watch> bail out of here
      at 1 PM, amble on down to the lake.  Hang out.  Sit
      in the sun and take it EASY!   :)   Yeah!

      I just wish I had the e-mail address of total gumby who
      was saying that " Clinton didn't propose a NST ".

      To paraphrase Hilary Clinton - " I will not raise taxes on
      the middle class to pay for my programs "


Couldn't you simply use MIN() as you use SUM() and than subtract it
from SUM() ??

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+At one time there was speculation that the first spacewalk
+(Alexei Leonov ?) was a staged fake.
+
+Has any evidence to support or contradict this claim emerged ?
+
+Was this claim perhaps another fevered Cold War hallucination ?

I, for one, would be an avid reader of a sci.space.ussr.what.really.
happened.


Here's one I remember: (sort of)
Yogi's asleep in a hotel room late at night and gets a call from someone.
After he answers the phone the person at the other end asks if he woke Yogi
up. Yogi answered, "No, the phone did."


Greetings from green New Zealand...

We are looking for a Windows 3.1 Font that will allow "macrons" (a hypen)
over vowels -- in both UPPER and lower cases. This is so we can use Maori
characters in Windows applications.

Thanks in advance
-Stuart Inglis


Check out Xicor's new goodie in the April 12th edition of EETimes
X88C64 - an 8k * 8 E2PROM with built in latch AND bootloader setup.
You hook it directly to your '51, power it up, the prom initialises the
serial port on the '51, you load in your code via RXD, this gets blatted
onto the E2PROM, then you reset and run - i'm sure Dallas also does
something like this too, i suppose it would boil down to relative
prices, and the Dallas part freeing up P0 & P2 completely. I wonder
if ANYONE has ever managed to design a single sided PCB with an
8051, 573, EPROM, SRAM and >>NO LINKS<< ?
cheers
Mike.


This isn't true.  Today's criminals regularly use all sorts of unsafe
methods, from cordless phones to cellular phones to plain old copper
wire analog phones that you can put alligator clips on to plan and
execute their crimes.

It is amazing how stupid they are, which is why the FBI was so keen on
the digital telphony law, and its successor the clipper chip.  They're
hoping here that most crooks will remain stupid, feel safe using clipper
chip phones and get caught.


[KK] Bugunlerde "jewish jokes" muhabbetlerinden esinlenerek sunu
[KK] yazayim dedim.
[KK]
[KK]        "Israel was able to divert the Jewish lobby from the Greeks,
[KK]        for example, by persuading it that supporting the Armenian
[KK]        resolution which came before the Senate in February 1990
[KK]        could help sour Turco-Israeli relations. In addition, the
[KK]        Israeli embassy in Washington was active in ensuring that the
[KK]        resolution failed, for instance by assisting Turkish Jews to
[KK]        travel to Wahington to underline the affinity between Israel
[KK]        and Turkey.
[KK]
[KK]        There was no doubt about the debt which Turkey felt it owed
[KK]        to Israel over this matter. Even four months before the re-
[KK]        solution came up for consideration, as enior member of the
[KK]        Turkish Foreign Ministry said his country was "very grateful"
[KK]        to Israel, the cooperation, in his view, refelecting the
[KK]        maturity of the bilateral relationship. The experience over
[KK]        the Armenian issue has convinced senior figures in Turkey
[KK]        that the pro-Israel network in Washington can indeed deliver
[KK]        the desired results.
[KK]
[KK]	[Robins Philip, "Turkey and the Middle East" 1991 Chathm House
[KK]	 Papers. p.
[KK]
[KK]        papers p.84]

[KK] got to go now

Not so fast! You have a rather warped sense of logic! You are telling us that
because Israel wishes to have good relations with Turkey even at the expense
of Armenians or Armenia, makes it bad for Turks to tell racist jokes against
Jews. Thus, we can infer, if Israel had poor relations with Turkey, it would
be alright to post such horrible jokes against Jews!

You impress nobody.


(Atheist drivel deleted . . .)

			Untitled
			========

	A seed is such a miraculous thing,
	It can sit on a shelf forever.
	But how it knows what to do, when it's stuck in the ground,
	Is what makes it so clever.
	It draws nutrients from the soil through it's roots,
	And gathers its force from the sun
	It puts forth a whole lot of blossoms and fruit,
	Then recedes itself when it is done.
	Who programmed the seed to know just what to do?
	And who put the sun in the sky?
	And who put the food in the dirt for the roots?
	And who told the bees to come by?
	And who makes the water to fall from above,
	To refresh and make everything pure?
	Perhaps all of this is a product of love,
	And perhaps it happened by chance.
				Yeah, sure.

			-Johnny Hart, cartoonist for _B.C._


I am not so sure of Jewish proselytism then, but I would like to relate
an account of a recent dinner I had with Jews a few months ago.

The dinner was instigated by the aunt of the hostess, whom I had met while
visiting my wife in Galveston last October.  The dear old aunt (now
deceased) was very proud of her Jewish heritage, although not especially
devout.  Her parents were both murdered in Nazi concentration camps in
Austria during WWII because they were Jewish.  While conversing with her
about politics, world affairs and religion, she remarked that it would
be a good idea for me to visit her niece on my return to Atlanta.

Within two days of returning to Atlanta, her niece called to invite
me over for dinner with her husband.  I went, not knowing really what to
expect, other than stimulating conversation and fellowship.  What I got,
however, was rather unexpected.  The thrust of the evening's discussion
was to condemn the Reagan-Bush policies prohibiting abortion counseling
in federally funded family planning clinics, prohibiting the sterilization
of minorities on welfare here and in Puerto Rico, on
the ban on fetal tissue research, and against the Mexico City policy,
"which denies U.S. foreign aid to programs overseas that promote abortion."

The crux of their position was to place the blame for the problems of
"overpopulation," rampant domestic crime, African starvation, unwed
mothers, etc., on Christianity, rather on the fall of Adam.  Now, this
is not what I had to come to talk about.  But every time I tried to
bring up the subject of Judaism, they would condemn Jews for Jesus
and admonish me against converting to Judaism, "because it involves
too much study and effort."  And I did not even raise the prospect, nor
try to convert them to the truth of Christ!  There was certainly no
Jewish proselytism going on there.

And again, last November I toured a "traditional" Jewish synagogue and was
subjected to a 30-minute harangue against Jesus and Christianity in
general.  I realize that these are two isolated incidents, and that the
best supervisor I ever had at work is Jewish, but from my experience,
the modern Jew is not known for his proselytism.

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boundary


Selling X-men for the C64/128 for only $10 plus shipping.

first email gets it...


Doug, those stats are great!  they help immensely.  I tried to E-Mail
you with some comments on them but my mail server does not recognize
your address.  Could you E-Mail me with some info on how to get E-Mail
to you?  Thanks!


Has anyone got multiverse to work ?

I have built it on 486 svr4, mips svr4s and Sun SparcStation.

There seems to be many bugs in it.  The 'dogfight' and 'dactyl' simply do nothing
(After fixing a bug where a variable is defined twice in two different modules - One needed
setting to static - else the client core-dumped)

Steve
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I just started reading the group. I was wondering if someone
could re-post exactly what the Prophetic Warning to NYC was.

Thanks
-jh