1)  Output offset:  Obtain the service manual for the oscilloscope
and adjust the internal output offset contorl.  There is virtual
certainty that there is an internal ajustment for the offset
control's zero detent position.

2)  Verify that the function generator is properly loaded.  Many
generators expect you to supply a 50 ohm load.  Go to a hamfest
flea market and scrounge around for a pass-through 50 ohm
terminator that has a male and female BNC (or whatever) connector
on it.  The calibrator on my Tektronix scope is designed to put out
.4v into a 1 meg load, but .1 volt into a 50 ohm load.  You may
also find that loading the output of the function generator also
reduces the harmonic distortion.

Build an attenuator.  You don't have to use (and I wouldn't want to
use) the input impedance of the device under test as part of the
voltage divider to drop the input test voltage.  Consider this:

------10K--------+---------? ohm ----
                 |
Gen            50 ohm            D.U.T.
(loaded)         |
-----------------+-------------------

Think about the ratio of 50/10K and then think about the accuracy
to which you can read voltages on your oscilloscope.  You can
virtually discount the loading of the D.U.T.  Also you have the
millivolt test generator you want.

Good luck,


  But, think of the *mystique* you are buying into for that extra $7k or
more!!!


"Bare" = case, a power supply, and a motherboard (with RAM and a coprocessor).
Everything else is yours to add as you like.

The motherboard:
    - US-made Micronics 8-slot motherboard with Intel 386dx/25mhz CPU
    - 64kb SRAM cache
    - 4mb 80us RAM using 4x1mb simms (worth $120 alone)
    - Cyrix 83D87 math coprocessor (worth $90 alone)
    - Norton SI 6.0 rating of 26.1
    - Latest version Phoenix BIOS

The case/power supply:
     - Standard desktop case. 230watt power supply with the usual connectors.
     - Room for five floppy/hard drives (three visible, two internal).

*New* Micronics CPUs often command a several-hundred dollar premium
over clone motherboards because they are US-made, use high-quality
components, and are known to be both very reliable and compatible. They
have been OEMed in systems sold by both Gateway and Zeos at various
points in the past. (Check out the ads in the back pages of Byte or PC
Magazine if you want to see this price differential for yourself.)

Price: $450 complete, $100 less if you don't want/need the case and
power supply. The board is fully guaranteed. Email for further details
or for any questions.

Thanks!


In the past, I have used named pipes to communicate between processes using
the XtAddInput function to set up the event handling in Motif. Does anybody
know of a way to do this with message passing ( IPC ) ? I tried it here and
no luck so far.


Excuse me?  This has *already* happened.  There's a couple of humps in
the tent already.  Ask the folks at Qualcomm what became of the
non-trivial encryption scheme they proposed for use in their CDMA
digitial cellular phone standard?  There *already* are restrictions in
place.


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Don't listen to this guy, he's just a crank.  At first, this business
about being the "one true god" was tolerated by the rest of us,
but now it has gotten completely out of hand.

Besides, it really isn't so bad when people stop believing in you.
It's much more relaxing when mortals aren't always begging you for favors.


  That brings up an interesting point. Anyone else catch ESPN's piece about
prospects and the relationship between age, career length, MVPs and Hall of
Fame members? It was part of their preseason special. Basically, they looked
at players that had amassed 1000 plate appearances (or ABs) by the time they
were 24, and noticed some interesting things.

  For starters, they found out such players comprised the majority of MVPs in
the history of the game. They also found out such players represented the
majority of the players in the hall of fame. The kicker, though, was that
they actually did some number-crunching and found that such players' careers
lasted much longer than the careers of players not in that group. They also
found that these players produced at both a greater level of performance and
produced over twice the raw totals (HRs, etc) of the other players. The first
group outhit the second something like .282 to .260 in raw BA, and blew away
the second group in such categories as HRs, 2Bs, RBIs, etc.

  It was the most impressive thing I've seen on ESPN in recent memory.

  I guess Ray Knight makes his rebuttal tonight.


   Do you really need to switch to a DX2/66 instead of a DX50?  As I
   understand it, DX50's can have local bus devices (on the mother-board?)
   but not local bus slots.  And according to what I been told, many
   systems go beyond the VESA local bus standard in order to provide DX50
   systems with a local bus slot capability.  I have definitly seen a
   mother board with 2 local bus slots which claimed to be able to
   support any CPU, including the DX2/66 and DX50.  Can someone throw
   some more informed light on this issue?

You will need to check with peripheral makers to see if their boards
will work at 50 MHz.  Some will with some motherboards.


Are the Serbs doing the work of God?  Hmm...

I've been wondering if anyone would ever ask the question,

Are the governments of the United States and Europe not moving
to end the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs because the targets are
muslims?

Can/Does God use those who are not following him to accomplish
tasks for him?  Esp those tasks that are punative?


    I had a kz440 and thought it was the best $100 bike I've ever
    ridden.  And mind you, I've ridden many bikes.

    You must be mistaken. No thread in this group has ever had a point.


[ stuff deleted ]
   |> Are you calling names, or giving me a title? If the first, read your
   |> paragraph above, if not I accept the title, in order to let you get into the
   |> um, well, debate again.

   Hasan replies:
   I didnot know that "Master of wisdom" can be "name clling" too,
   unless you consider yourself deserve-less !

Unless you are referring to someone else, you have in fact given me a name
I did not ask for, hence the term 'name calling'.

   |>    So what do you expect me to tell you to tell you, Master of Wsidom,
   |> 							       ^^^
   |> ------------------------------------------------------------------
   I replied:
   |> If you insist on giving me names/titles I did not ask for you could at
   |> least spell them correctly. /sigh.

   Hasan gloats:
   That was only to confuse you! (ha ha ha hey )

Hell-bent on retarding into childhood, no?

   |>when you are intentionally neglecting the MOST important fact that
   |>the whole israeli presence in the occupied territories is ILLEGITIMATE,
   |>and hence ALL their actions, their courts, their laws are illegitimate on
   |>the ground of occupied territories.
   |>
   >No, I am _not_ neglecting that, I'm merely asking you whether the existance
   >of Israeli citicens in the WB or in Gaza invalidates those individuals
   >right
               ^^^^^^^ are you trying to retaliate and confuse me here.

No, I really do try to spell correctly, and I apologize if I did confuse you.
I will try not to repeat that.

   |> to live, a (as you so eloquently put it) human right. We can get back to the
   |> question of which law should be used in the territories later. Also, you have
   |> not adressed my question if the israelis also have human rights.

   First, my above statement doesnot say that "the existence of israeli citizens
   in the WB revoke their right of life" but it says "the israeli occupation
   of the WB revoke the right of life for some/most its citizens - basically
   revokes the right of for its military men". Clearly, occupation is an
   undeclared war; during war, attacks against military targets are fully legitimate.

Ok, let me re-phrase the question. I have repeatedly asked you if the
Israelis have less human rights than the palestinians, and if so, why.
From your posting (where you did not directly adress my question) I inferred
that you thought so. Together with the above statement I then assumed that the
reason was the actions of the state of Israel. Re: your statement of
occupation: I'd like you to define the term, so I don't have to repeat this
'drag the answer out of hasan' procedure more than neccesary.

   Secondly, surely israeli have human rights, but they ask their goverment to
   protect it by withdrawing from the occupied terretories, not by further oppressing
   Palestinean human rights.

I'm sorry, but the above sentence does not make sense. Please rephrase it.

   |> If a state can deprive all it's citizens of human rights by its actions, then
   |> tell me why _any_ human living today should have any rights at all?

   Because not all states are like Israel, as oppressive, as ignorant, or as tyrant.

Oh, ok. So how about the human rights of the Syrians, Iraqis and others?
Does the name of Hama sound familiar? Or how about the kurds in Iraq and
Turkey?
How about the Same in Sweden (Ok, maybe a bit farfetched..) the Russians in
the Baltic states or the Moslem in the old USSR and Yugoslavia?
Do the serbs have any human rights remainaing, according to you?

   |>    |> And which system do you propose we use to solve the ME problem?
   |>
   |>    The question is NOT which system would solve the ME problem. Why ? because
   |>    any system can solve it.
   |>    The laws of minister Sharon says kick Palestineans out of here (all palestine).
   |>
   |> I asked for which system should be used, that will preserve human rights for
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   |> all people involved. I assumed that was obvious, but I won't repeat that
   |> mistake. Now that I have straightened that out, I'm eagerly awaiting your
   |> reply.

   So you agree that that an israeli solution wouldnot preserve human rights.
   (i am understanding this from your first statement in this paragraph).

No, I'm agreeing that to just kick all the Palestinians out of Israel proper
would probably lead to disaster for both parties. If that's what you refer
to as the 'Israeli solution' then so be it.

   |>    Joseph Weitz (administrator responsible for Jewish colonization)
   |>    said it best when writing in his diary in 1940:
   |> 	   "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both
   |> 	   peoples together in this country.... We shall not achieve our goal
   |> 						^^^                  ^^^
   |> 	   of being an independent people with the Arabs in this small country.
   |> 	   The only solution is a Palestine, at least Western Palestine (west of
   |> 	   the Jordan river) without Arabs.... And there is no other way than
   |> 	   to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to
   |> 	   transfer all of them; not one village, not one tribe, should be
   |> 	   left.... Only after this transfer will the country be able to
   |> 	   absorb the millions of our own brethren. There is no other way out."
   |> 				   DAVAR, 29 September, 1967
   |> 				   ("Courtesy" of Marc Afifi)
   |>

Oh? Have you met with them personally, to read their diaries? Fascinating.
What do you _do_ for a living?

   Above you wrote that you understood what i meant (underlined by ^ ):
   any system can be used to solve the conflict , but not any system would
   resolve it JUSTLY.

An unjust solution would be a non-solution, per definition, no?
You said the following:

For all A it holds that A have property B.
There exists an A such that property B does not hold.

Thus, either or both statements must be false.

   |> Guess where that takes your logic? To never-never land.

I was merely pointing out a not so small flaw in your reasoning.
Since you claim to be logical I felt it best to point this out
before you started using your statements to prove a point or so.
Am I then to assume you are  not logical?

Any quote can be misused, especially when used to stereotype all
individuals by a statement of an individual. If you use the same
methods that you credit 'Zionists' with, then where does that place you?

Oh, by the way, I'd advice you not to assume anything about my 'loyalties'.
I will and am condemning acts I find vile and inhuman, but I'll try as
long as I can not to assume those acts are by a whole people.
By zionist above do you mean the state of Israel, the government of Israel,
the leaders of Israel (political and/or religious) or the jews in
general? If you feel the need to condemn, condemn those responsible
instead. How would you feel if we started condemning you personally
based on the bombings in Egypt?

--


As the subject suggests the Flames were not impressive this afternoon,
dropping a 6-3 decision to the LA Kings. Most of the Flames neglected
to show up, especially in their own zone, as the Kings hit at least
five posts! The Flames best line was probably
Skrudland-Paslawski-Berube (which tells how bad the Flames were). Gary
Suter scored a great goal (in fact all three Flame goals were scored
by D-men - Yawney and Dahlquist getting the others), but also made
some bonehead plays. For the Kings, Pat Conacher was especially
impressive.

The games was VERY chippy, as Dan Mirouelli lost control early and
never recovered it; there were high-sticks, cross-checks, punches,
hits from behind. Fleury got a game misconduct for rubbing out Warren
Rychel from behind. Flames dominated the game physically, but failed
to take advantage due to horrendous defensive lapses (I don't think
Vernon can be blamed for any of the goals). Calgary went with 7 D-men,
as Roger Johansson played LW; he looked lost IMHO - I hope King
inserts Chris Lindbergh, Paul Kruse, or Sergei Makarov for Wednesday's
game. Gretzky left the game in the 2nd period with a charley-horse; no
idea how serious - he didn't return.

I still think the Flames should win this series, but they better
buckle down.


OTOH, some of us get lucky-- I've unplugged and replugged SCSI and ADB
quite often, and never blown anything.  I blew out the ADB by shorting
the cable, though.


Nope, you're confusing separate programs.  Atlas was the first-generation
US ICBM; Titan I was the second-generation one; Titan II, which all the
Titan launchers are based on, was the third-generation heavy ICBM.  There
was essentially nothing in common between these three programs.

(Yes, *three* programs.  Despite the similarity of names, Titan I and
Titan II were completely different missiles.  They didn't even use the
same fuels, never mind the same launch facilities.)


Lowenstein is NOT Jewish.  However, there is a long list including
Hank Greenberg, Moe Berg, Rod Carew (a convert), the Sherry brothers,
Art Shamsky, and Ron Blomberg.


It may have been passed to Toronto, but I've even seen an octopus at
the Aud -- last year's Bruins-Sabres game.  I knew all about the
Detroit version, but seeing at the Aud was a bit puzzling.  :-)


.. and Chuck Yeager earlier flights with the X-1...


A traffic citation is an accusation of having committed a crime.
That's why they have to go through the motions of having a trial if you
want one, you are still innocent until proven guilty.  Cops are not the
only ones who can accuse people of committing crimes, anyone who
witnesses a crime can do so.

Go to the Highway Patrol and explain the situation, give them a
description of the car and the license number, and tell them the
specific violation of the law which you witnessed and wish to prosecute
(ie, search the Vehicle Code and have the section number handy).  Fill
out the ticket and sign it.  It will go through the same system any
ticket a cop writes goes through.  If contested, you will have to
appear in court to prosecute.  Your word will not carry the same weight
as a cop's.


What group is this?  This is not a MAC group.

Why the spec list again?  We are talking SCSI on a PC, not on a MAC or
a UNIX box.  And we are talking ISA bus, or possibly EISA or VLB.

This isin't comp.periphs.SCSI.
Tell me what the performance figures are with a single SCSI drive on a PC
with an ISA (or EISA or VLB) bus.

Theoretical performance figures are not relevant to this group or this
debate.  I'm sure that there are some platforms out there that can
handle the 40 megs/sec of SCSI xyz wide'n'fast, but the PC isin't one of
them.


Ending an embargo does not _we_ must sell anything at all.

You seem to oppose ending the embargo.  You know, it is difficult for Europeans
to sell weapons when there is an embargo in place.

But if this was the reason, and if furthermore both sides are equal, wouldn't
all us racist Americans be favoring the good Christians (Serbs) instead
of the non-Christians we really seem to favor?
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole
    that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)


Going into the ninth with a 3 run lead, ...2 runs score...runners on
first and second...RD throws, "there's a drive waaaaaayyyyyyy back,
Puckett to the wall, leaps, He CAUGHT THE BALL!!!!  WHAT A CATCH BY KIRBY!!
TWINS WIN!"  and RD gets the save.  His line 1 IP, 2 walks, 2 hits, and
one robbed home run...


[... stuff deleted ...]

I have to agree here.  As I heard on TSN tonight, "You want to pick
someone else, but you just don't see how you can".  And I'm a Bruins
fan.  Maybe this year will be different, but it doesn't look good.
Time will tell, though.

[... lots more deleted ...]

Randy


Dear friend,
  The RISC means "reduced instruction set computer". The RISC usually has
small instruction set so as to reduce the circuit complex and can increase
the clock rate to have a high performance. You can read some books about
computer architecture for more information about RISC.


From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Poem by Erich Fried

Poem by German-Jewish poet Erich Fried (Holocaust survivor)

Ein Jude an die zionistischen Kaempfer - 1988

    von Erich Fried

Was wollt ihr eigentlich ?  Wollt ihr wirklich die uebertreffen
die euch niedergetreten haben vor einem Menschenalter in euer
eigenes Blut und in euren eigenen Kot ?

	 *

Wollt ihr die alten Foltern jetzt an andere weitergeben mit allen
blutigen dreckigen Einzelheiten mit allem brutalen Genuss die
Folterknechte wie unsere Vaeter sie damals erlitten haben ?

       *

Wollt jetzt wirklich ihr die neue Gestapo sein die neue Wehrmacht
die neue SA and SS und aus den Palaestinensern die neuen Juden
machen ?

      *

Aber dann will auch ich weil ich damals vor fuenfzig Jahren selbst
als ein Judenkind gepeinigt wurde von euren Peinigern ein neuer
Jude sein mit diesen neuen Juden zu denen ihr die Palaestinenser
macht

       *

Und ich will sie zurueckfuehren helfen als freie Menschen in ihr
eigenes Land Palaestina aus dem ihr sie vertrieben habt oder in
dem ihr sie quaelt ihr Hakenkreuzlehrlinge ihr Narren und
Wechselbaelge der Weltgeschichte denen der Davidstern auf euren
Fahnen sich immer schneller verwandelt in das verfluchte Zeichen
mit den vier Fuessen das ihr nun nicht sehen wollt aber dessen Weg
ihr heut geht !


I recall seeing a post some time ago saying that if the details of
an encryption scheme couldn't be revealed, then the encryption
scheme is worthless.  I believe the statement was in response to
somebody saying that they had some new snazzy scheme, but the
algorithm was a secret.

Does this algorithm depend on the fact that the scheme is secret or
is it for the stated reasons above?


   Lebanese resistance forces detonated a bomb under an Israeli occupation
   patrol in Lebanese territory two days ago. Three soldiers were killed and
   two wounded. In "retaliation", Israeli and Israeli-backed forces wounded
   8 civilians by bombarding several Lebanese villages. Ironically, the Israeli
   government justifies its occupation in Lebanon by claiming that it is
   necessary to prevent such bombardments of Israeli villages!!

   Congratulations to the brave men of the Lebanese resistance! With every
   Israeli son that you place in the grave you are underlining the moral
   bankruptcy of Israel's occupation and drawing attention to the Israeli
   government's policy of reckless disregard for civilian life.

   Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)

Very nice. Three people are murdered, and Bradly is overjoyed. When I
hear about deaths in the middle east, be it Jewish or Arab deaths, I
feel sadness, and only hope that soon this all stops. Apparently, my
view point is not acceptable to people like you Bradly.

Hernlem, you disgust me.


Tampa Bay                        1 1 0--2
Philadelphia                     3 2 1--6
First period
     1, Philadelphia, Carkner 3 (unassisted) 1:24.
     2, Philadelphia, Hawgood 9 (Recchi, Lindros) pp, 5:56.
     3, Philadelphia, Lindros 37 (Recchi, Hawgood) pp, 9:52.
     4, Tampa Bay, Beers 12 (Zamuner, Chambers) pp, 15:06.
Second period
     5, Tampa Bay, Andersson 13 (Hamrlik, Lafreniere) pp, 1:58.
     6, Philadelphia, Conroy 3 (Butsayev, Faust) 12:10.
     7, Philadelphia, Beranek 13 (Galley, Hawgood) pp, 18:53.
Third period
     8, Philadelphia, Recchi 51 (Brind'Amour, Galley) pp, 17:56.

Philadelphia: 6    Power play: 5-4
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Beranek            1    0    1
Brind'Amour        0    1    1
Butsayev           0    1    1
Carkner            1    0    1
Conroy             1    0    1
Faust              0    1    1
Galley             0    2    2
Hawgood            1    2    3
Lindros            1    1    2
Recchi             1    2    3

Tampa Bay: 2    Power play: 7-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Andersson          1    0    1
Beers              1    0    1
Chambers           0    1    1
Hamrlik            0    1    1
Lafreniere         0    1    1
Zamuner            0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Vancouver                        1 0 0--1
Detroit                          2 2 1--5
First period
     1, Detroit, Kozlov 4 (Fedorov, Chiasson) 5:20.
     2, Detroit, Drake 17 (Ciccarelli, Coffey) pp, 7:48.
     3, Vancouver, Ronning 24 (Slegr, Bure) pp, 17:35.
Second period
     4, Detroit, Sheppard 30 (Drake, Hiller) 6:54.
     5, Detroit, Ciccarelli 38 (Chiasson, Drake) pp, 12:13.
Third period
     6, Detroit, Ysebaert 31 (Fedorov, Cheveldae) sh, 4:59.

Detroit: 5    Power play: 5-2   Special goals:  pp: 2  sh: 1  Total: 3
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Cheveldae          0    1    1
Chiasson           0    2    2
Ciccarelli         1    1    2
Coffey             0    1    1
Drake              1    2    3
Fedorov            0    2    2
Hiller             0    1    1
Kozlov             1    0    1
Sheppard           1    0    1
Ysebaert           1    0    1

Vancouver: 1    Power play: 6-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Bure               0    1    1
Ronning            1    0    1
Slegr              0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Buffalo                          1 1 0--2
Boston                           1 1 1--3
First period
     1, Buffalo, Audette 12 (Corkum, Wood) 16:40.
     2, Boston, Juneau 30 (Neely, Oates) 18:39.
Second period
     3, Buffalo, Errey 9 (LaFontaine, Khmylev) 10:51.
     4, Boston, Douris 3 (D.Sweeney, Bourque) 17:57.
Third period
     5, Boston, Donato 12 (unassisted) 17:42.

Boston: 3    Power play: 4-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Bourque            0    1    1
Donato             1    0    1
Douris             1    0    1
Juneau             1    0    1
Neely              0    1    1
Oates              0    1    1
Sweeney D          0    1    1

Buffalo: 2    Power play: 5-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Audette            1    0    1
Corkum             0    1    1
Errey              1    0    1
Khmylev            0    1    1
LaFontaine         0    1    1
Wood               0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Calgary                          1 1 0 1--3
San Jose                         0 2 0 0--2
First period
     1, Calgary, Suter 21 (Reichel, MacInnis) pp, 17:47.
Second period
     2, San Jose, Zmolek 5 (Odgers, Evason) 3:03.
     3, San Jose, Kisio 24 (Garpenlov, Gaudreau) pp, 7:23.
     4, Calgary, Lindberg 9 (MacInnis) pp, 12:43.
Third period
     No scoring.
Overtime
     5, Calgary, Fleury 31 (Otto, Yawney) 3:06.

Calgary: 3    Power play: 8-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Fleury             1    0    1
Lindberg           1    0    1
MacInnis           0    2    2
Otto               0    1    1
Reichel            0    1    1
Suter              1    0    1
Yawney             0    1    1

San Jose: 2    Power play: 9-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Evason             0    1    1
Garpenlov          0    1    1
Gaudreau           0    1    1
Kisio              1    0    1
Odgers             0    1    1
Zmolek             1    0    1

-----------------------------------------
Pittsburgh                       0 3 2--5
Quebec                           2 1 0--3
First period
     1, Quebec, Kamensky 15 (Huffman) 6:05.
     2, Quebec, Young 27 (Lapointe, Huffman) 16:52.
Second period
     3, Pittsburgh, Mullen 29 (Lemieux, Murphy) 3:54.
     4, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 60 (Tocchet, U.Samuelsson) 5:07.
     5, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 61 (Tocchet, Stevens) 8:12.
     6, Quebec, Young 28 (Sundin, Kovalenko) pp, 14:52.
Third period
     7, Pittsburgh, Tippett 4 (unassisted) sh, 3:52.
     8, Pittsburgh, Tippett 5 (McEachern, Mullen) 8:25.

Pittsburgh: 5    Power play: 1-0   Special goals:  sh: 1  Total: 1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Lemieux            2    1    3
McEachern          0    1    1
Mullen             1    1    2
Murphy             0    1    1
Samuelsson U       0    1    1
Stevens            0    1    1
Tippett            2    0    2
Tocchet            0    2    2

Quebec: 3    Power play: 4-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Huffman            0    2    2
Kamensky           1    0    1
Kovalenko          0    1    1
Lapointe           0    1    1
Sundin             0    1    1
Young              2    0    2

-----------------------------------------
New Jersey                       0 0 0--0
Toronto                          0 0 1--1
First period
     No scoring.
Second period
     No scoring.
Third period
     1, Toronto, Gilmour 32 (Andreychuk, Anderson) 16:22.

Toronto: 1    Power play: 5-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Anderson           0    1    1
Andreychuk         0    1    1
Gilmour            1    0    1

New Jersey: 0    Power play: 3-0
No scoring

-----------------------------------------
Ottawa                           1 0 2--3
Hartford                         5 1 1--7
First period
     1, Ottawa, Maciver 17 (Baker, Luongo) 4:22.
     2, Hartford, Kron 11 (Nylander, Gosselin) 5:13.
     3, Hartford, Burt 4 (Cassels, Verbeek) 7:59.
     4, Hartford, Cunneyworth 4 (Yake, Nylander) 9:59.
     5, Hartford, Sanderson 42 (Cassels, Houda) 11:11.
     6, Hartford, Verbeek 35 (Cassels, Zalapski) pp, 15:50.
Second period
     7, Hartford, Sanderson 43 (Cassels, Zalapski) pp, 18:38.
Third period
     8, Hartford, Kron 12 (Poulin, Burt) 4:57.
     9, Ottawa, Turgeon 23 (Lamb) 8:57.
     10, Ottawa, Baker 17 (Luongo, Maciver) pp, 16:17.

Hartford: 7    Power play: 3-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Burt               1    1    2
Cassels            0    4    4
Cunneyworth        1    0    1
Gosselin           0    1    1
Houda              0    1    1
Kron               2    0    2
Nylander           0    2    2
Poulin             0    1    1
Sanderson          2    0    2
Verbeek            1    1    2
Yake               0    1    1
Zalapski           0    2    2

Ottawa: 3    Power play: 7-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Baker              1    1    2
Lamb               0    1    1
Luongo             0    2    2
Maciver            1    1    2
Turgeon            1    0    1

-----------------------------------------
Winnipeg                         1 3 2--6
Edmonton                         1 0 3--4
First period
     1, Winnipeg, Tkachuk 27 (Housley, Zhamnov) pp, 14:38.
     2, Edmonton, Klima 31 (Ciger, Elik) 16:05.
Second period
     3, Winnipeg, King 8 (unassisted) 3:54.
     4, Winnipeg, Zhamnov 21 (Selanne) 10:25.
     5, Winnipeg, Domi 5 (Selanne, Housley) 18:44.
Third period
     6, Edmonton, Manson 15 (unassisted) 10:58.
     7, Winnipeg, Eagles 8 (Numminen, Bautin) pp, 14:13.
     8, Winnipeg, Zhamnov 22 (Ulanov, Selanne) 15:27.
     9, Edmonton, Gelinas 8 (Kravchuk, Ranford) 16:48.
     10, Edmonton, Kravchuk 10 (Buchberger) 18:42.

Winnipeg: 6    Power play: 5-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Bautin             0    1    1
Domi               1    0    1
Eagles             1    0    1
Housley            0    2    2
King               1    0    1
Numminen           0    1    1
Selanne            0    3    3
Tkachuk            1    0    1
Ulanov             0    1    1
Zhamnov            2    1    3

Edmonton: 4    Power play: 3-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Buchberger         0    1    1
Ciger              0    1    1
Elik               0    1    1
Gelinas            1    0    1
Klima              1    0    1
Kravchuk           1    1    2
Manson             1    0    1
Ranford            0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Chicago                          0 3 0 0--3
St. Louis                        1 2 0 0--3
First period
     1, St. Louis, Shanahan 46 (Janney, Hull) pp, 4:09.
Second period
     2, Chicago, Murphy 4 (Chelios, Roenick) pp, 0:50.
     3, St. Louis, Shanahan 47 (Hedican, Janney) 1:18.
     4, Chicago, Noonan 16 (Murphy, Chelios) pp, 5:24.
     5, St. Louis, Bozon 6, ps, 12:13.
     6, Chicago, Roenick 43 (Sutter, Murphy) pp, 18:39.
Third period
     No scoring.
Overtime
     No scoring.

St. Louis: 3    Power play: 4-1   Special goals:  pp: 1  ps: 1  Total: 2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Bozon              1    0    1
Chelios            0    1    1
Hedican            0    1    1
Hull               0    1    1
Janney             0    2    2
Murphy             0    1    1
Shanahan           2    0    2

Chicago: 3    Power play: 3-3
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Chelios            0    2    2
Murphy             1    2    3
Noonan             1    0    1
Roenick            1    1    2
Sutter             0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Montreal                         0 1 2--3
NY Islanders                     0 2 0--2
First period
     No scoring.
Second period
     1, Montreal, Brunet 10 (Carbonneau, Daigneault) 4:39.
     2, NY Islanders, Turgeon 51 (Thomas, Kurvers) pp, 9:14.
     3, NY Islanders, Mullen 16 (unassisted) 15:13.
Third period
     4, Montreal, Bellows 38 (Desjardins, Dipietro) 3:01.
     5, Montreal, Damphousse 38 (Desjardins, Bellows) pp, 10:11.

Montreal: 3    Power play: 5-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Bellows            1    1    2
Brunet             1    0    1
Carbonneau         0    1    1
Daigneault         0    1    1
Damphousse         1    0    1
Desjardins         0    2    2
Dipietro           0    1    1

NY Islanders: 2    Power play: 5-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Kurvers            0    1    1
Mullen             1    0    1
Thomas             0    1    1
Turgeon            1    0    1

-----------------------------------------
Minnesota                        2 1 0--3
Los Angeles                      0 0 0--0
First period
     1, Minnesota, Dahlen 33 (unassisted) 2:34.
     2, Minnesota, Courtnall 33 (Dahlen, Modano) pp, 9:30.
Second period
     3, Minnesota, McPhee 14 (Sjodin, Hatcher) pp, 7:24.
Third period
     No scoring.

Minnesota: 3    Power play: 11-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Courtnall          1    0    1
Dahlen             1    1    2
Hatcher            0    1    1
McPhee             1    0    1
Modano             0    1    1
Sjodin             0    1    1


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This actually supports Bill's speculation - IF there is a backdoor in
RSAREF and IF PKP is supported secretly by the NSA, then it is more
than natural that they will welcome ANY public-key implementation that
uses RSAREF and will strongly oppose themselves against ANY
implementation that doesn't.

I personally cannot see how one could put a backdoor in a
long-precision modular arithmetic library that comes in source, but,
of course, the fact that -I- cannot see it means nothing...

Regards,
Vesselin


                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

       The "used to kill" is the heart of the misinformation.  It's one
of those technically accurate phrasings that conveys the wrong impression.
What Mr. Quiqley is more than aware of, I'm sure, is that when people
read this they think violent arguments where one member of the family
grabs a gun and shoots another, thereby creating a tragic situation
which could easily have been avoided had the gun not been there, or
a tragic accident, especially involving a child.

       Unfortunately, that's not the way things stack up.  The majority
of that 43 "times" (37 I believe) are suicides.  That is, someone
intentionally took a firearm and shot themselves intending to kill
themselves.  And why it's popular to try and blame suicides on guns,
the evidence doesn't support this.  Internal studies, as well as
comparative studies with other countries, indicate that cultural
factors far outweigh whether a person will kill themselves or not.
(Japan, for instance, has a slightly higher rate than the U.S.  There
people jump off buildings.)

       According to the National Crime Survey, 40% of violent crime
is commited by "non-strangers," which mistakenly has been generalized
regarding the King County study to mean, "Friends and family."  That
is, Mr. Quigley, and others who quote this statistic, are banking on
the mental image that a "Friend, family member, or child," equates
to a loving relationship, and that it was cut short in a moment of
anger.  Unfortunately, all too often husbands beat and kill wives,
children assault parents, or vice-versa.  Most rapes are commited by
someone known to the victim, for instance.  Essentially, that a gun
was used against a "friend" or family member doesn't mean they
weren't trying to hurt the other person.  Crime is highest among
poor urban families, and those are also the areas most "at risk"
for family problems, especially violent ones.  A son in a gang may
not be as loving toward his parents if they disapprove than a suburban
kid might.

       Finally, it hinges on the fallacy that a dead intruder is the
only value of a self-defense firearm.  Using the minimum figures I
worked out using the NCS I got about an 80:1 ratio between deadly
self-defenses (justifiable homicides) and with-gun self-defenses.
Between the FBI Uniform Crime report and the NCS there's an enormous
amount of data and anybody with the calculator can crunch the numbers.
As such it is incorrect to assume that a dead body is the only valid
means of determining the success of such a defense, since according
to the NCS (which has been considered by many to seriously under-report
defenses) there were far more successful with-gun defenses than intruders
killed.

       Not it also confines itself to the home, where attack by a "friend
or family member" is far, far more likely, and excludes any defense
which occurs outside the home.  (I believe a large number occur in
businesses.)

       I have not seen the exact data for this, so I can't comment.  I
will point out Canada's and Japan's suicide rate as indications that
culture far more than firearm availability affect suicide rates.

       There was also a comparative study between Canada (for what
it's worth, considering the difficulty of comparing across cultural
lines) published in the New England Journal of Medicine (I can get the
exact cite if you need it) that concluded that restrictive firearm laws
would not significantly impact the over-all suicide rate.


As I was created in the image of Gaea, therefore I must
be the pinnacle of creation, She which Creates, She which
Births, She which Continues.

Or, to cut all the religious crap, I'm a woman, thanks.
And it's sexism that started me on the road to atheism.

--
Maddi Hausmann                       madhaus@netcom.com
Centigram Communications Corp        San Jose California  408/428-3553


I am selling my Global Village Teleport 2400 bps modem w/send fax. It
connects to the mac through the ADB port.  The software for sending
faxes is included.  I am asking $90.  However, I will consider other
reasonable offers.  Please E-Mail me.

Dave


Thanks to Tarl Neustaedter of MA for kindly letting me know that my
reference in prior post to Orwell and "1984" should probably have been to
Huxley and "Brave New World."

Sorry, Al.


Sorry I missed you Raymond, I was just out in Dahlgren last month...

I'm the Virtual Reality market manager for Silicon Graphics, so perhaps I
can help a little.

Unfortunately, while SGI systems were used to create the special effects
for both Terminator 2 and Lawnmower Man, those are film-quality computer
graphics, rendered in software and written to film a frame at a time.  Each
frame of computer animation for those films took hours to render on
high-end parallel processing computer systems. Thus, that level of graphics
would be difficult, if not impossible, to acheive in real time (30 frames
per second).

It depends upon how serious you are and how advanced your application is.
True immersive visualization (VR), requires the rendering of complex visual
databases at anywhere from 20 to 60 newly rendered frames per second.  This
is a similar requirement to that of traditional flight simulators for pilot
training. If the frame rate is too low, the user notices the stepping of
the frames as they move their head rapidly around the scene, so the motion
of the graphics is not smooth and contiguous.  Thus the graphics system
must be powerful enough to sustain high frame rates while rendering complex
data representations.

Additionally, the frame rate must be constant.  If the system renders 15
frames per second at one point, then 60 frames per second the next (perhaps
due to the scene in the new viewing direction being simpler than what was
visible before), the user can get heavily distracted by the medium (the
graphics computer) rather than focusing on the data. To maintain a constant
frame rate, the system must be able to run in real-time.  UNIX in general
does not support real-time operation, but Silicon Graphics has modified the
UNIX kernel for its multi-processor systems to be able to support real-time
operation, bypassing the usual UNIX process priority-management schemes.
Uniprocessor systems running UNIX cannot fundamentally support real-time
operation (not Sun SPARC10, not HP 700 Series systems, not IBM RS-6000, not
even SGI's uniprocessor systems like Indigo or Crimson). Only our
multiprocessor Onyx and Challenge systems support real-time operation due
to their Symmetric Multi-Processing (SMP) shared-memory architecture.

From a graphics perspective, rendering complex virtual environments
requires advanced rendering techniques like texture mapping and real-time
multi-sample anti-aliasing.  Of all of the general purpose graphics systems
on the market today, only Crimson RealityEngine and Onyx RealityEngine2
systems fully support these capabilities. The anti-aliasing is particularly
important, as the crawling jagged edges of aliased polygons is an
unfortunate distraction when immersed in a virtual environment.

You can use the general purpose graphics libraries listed above to develop
VR applications, but that is starting at a pretty low level. There are
off-the- shelf software packages available to get you going much faster,
being targeted directly at the VR application developer. Some of the most
popular are (in no particular order):

	- Division Inc.		    (Redwood City, CA) - dVS
	- Sens8 Inc.		    (Sausalito, CA)    - WorldToolKit
	- Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, CA)     - NPSnet (FREE!)
	- Gemini Technology Corp    (Irvine, CA)       - GVS Simation Series
	- Paradigm Simulation Inc.  (Dallas, TX)       - VisionWorks, AudioWorks
	- Silicon Graphics Inc.	    (Mountain View,CA) - IRIS Performer

There are some others, but not off the top of my head...

There are too many to list here, but here is a smattering:

	- Fake Space Labs	    (Menlo Park,CA)    - BOOM
	- Virtual Technologies Inc. (Stanford, CA)     - CyberGlove
	- Digital Image Design	    (New York, NY)     - The Cricket (3D input)
	- Kaiser Electro Optics	    (Carlsbad, CA)     - Sim Eye Helmet Displays
	- Virtual Research	    (Sunnyvale, CA)    - Flight Helmet display
	- Virtual Reality Inc.	    (Pleasantville,NY) - Head Mtd Displays, s/w
	- Software Systems	    (San Jose, CA)     - 3D Modeling software
	- etc., etc., etc.

Read some of the VR books on the market:

	- Virtual Reality - Ken Pimental and Ken Texiera (sp?)
	- Virtual Mirage
	- Artificial Reality - Myron Kreuger
	- etc.

Or check out the newsgroup sci.virtual_worlds

Feel free to contact me for more info.

Regards,

Josh

--


Well Bill, There are 2MB soldered on the logic board and 2MB in the RAM
expansion slot giving you 4MB. The only thing you can do to upgrade to
the maximum Ram is to remove the 2MB expansion and install a 6MB expansion,
giving you a total of 8MB which is the max on a 170....You can try calling
TechWorks, or any other memory vendors out of MacWeek, MacWorld...etc....


As usually, you are not reading. The proposal -does- say that it is a
"voluntary program". This doesn't make it more desirable, though...

"Secure"? How do you know? Because NSA is trying to make you believe it?
"Trust us." Yeah, right.

"Otherwise you are on your own"? How do you know that tomorrow they
will not outlaw encrypring devices that don't use "their" technology?
Because they are promising you? Gee, they are not doing even that -
read the proposal again.

Regards,
Vesselin


Hi folks,

	what exactly is the maximum memory I can put in
a Quadra 700. My manual says 20MB (with 4 x 4MB SIMMs),
but MacWarehouse and the like advertise 16MB SIMMs to
give it a total of 68MB. Who's wrong? Has anybody got
68MB?

Thanks,

	Chris


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Does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks
for sounding rockets?


Hey! Glad to have some serious and constructive contributors in this
newsgroup. I agree 100% on the statement above, you might argue with
Bobby for eons, and he still does not get it, so the best thing is
to spare your mental resources to discuss more interesting issues.

Cheers,
Kent


No wonder bikers have such a horrid reputation.

Go find a HUMAN!

I agree completely. Unfortunately, the majority
of my feelings, before I can even start to think
rationally abhout the dog that is trying to kill
me, are fear.

When there's been a moment to set up, like you
said "a bit down the road" or whatever, I've
never had a problem with dogs.


I would assume that the words (I saw the picture) indicated that those
SEATS will not be available for baseball games.  If you look at the picture
of the diamond in the stadium, in relation to the areas marked "NOT FOR
BASEBALL", those seats just look terrible for watching baseball.   Now, if
they should happen to reach the post-season, I would imagine that they
would consider opening some of those seats up, but that is surely a worry
of the future.

Sam Lubchansky          spl2@po.cwru.edu

"In the champion, people see what they'd like to be.  In the loser,
 they see what they actually are, and they treat him with scorn."


I really must object to that last statement.  Having a lot of experience
with a '92 Grand Am coupe, I can firmly state that they do have a lot of
outstanding qualities.  Very reliable throughout.  Great layout of controls
and components.  Very roomy considering the exterior size of the car.  They
look sharp inside and out.  The V6 that I drive has exceptional power and
drivability compared to other similar cars that I have driven.

All in all, it's a fun-to-drive, dependable, and reasonably priced vehicle.
Please don't knock it with a statement like that unless you back it up with
specific reasons why you feel that way.

Rob
bell@plains.nodak.edu


...let me point out that both GUI-based word-processors and text-based
   formatters both have a language; one happens to be mouse- and
   action-based, and the other symbol-based.

True, but that's beside the point. This is a fact about an abstract model
of what the GUI users are doing, not about what they actually *are* doing.
This abstract model is only apparent from the perpective of a *programmer*
of the system. (NB: some users may see it, too, but only when they put
aside the work at hand and start thinking like a programmer.)

I'm not saying that the programmer's perspective is evil or stunted. After
all, that's what I do, too! I am saying that UI designers must carefully
distinguish between the user/programmer conceptual models, and they must
ultimately serve the user of the system, not the builder of the system.

   I don't recall the actual stats, but something like 1 in 5 people can be
   categorized as a "symbol manipulator".

It would be interesting to know more about the meaning and basis for this
claim. At any rate, I don't think this is evidence that 20% of users think
like programmers. Bankers, financial analysts, structural engineers ---
these are all people whose work you could characterize as primarily symbol
manipulation. But what they do is not programming, and programming is not
required to do what they do.


           You don't have to.  *It*  believes in YOU.

        Well, looking at our new government pals, I'm inclined to
        agree.  I don't much believe in our money, either. :)

    Oh, ho HO!   If only you knew!  :)

    Yup, I'm DEFINITELY checking out foreign currency, thanks to
    to this newsgroup.  It sure doesn't take much thinking to realize
    what direction the U.S. is headed.


The description of the chip's operation evidently leaves out some of the
key management aspects.  Either the K_P is the secret key corresponding
to a public key which is broadcast at message initiation, or it is the
result of a Diffie-Hellman key exchange or something similar.  Either
way there must be some protocols beyond those described here.  It isn't
clear whether they are implemented in the Clipper wiretap chip or must
be provided by other system components.


:In article <Apr18.194927.17048@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>

:>Note that measures to protect yourself from
:>TEMPEST surveillance are still classified, as far as I know.

:I think this to be inaccurate. One can buy TEMPEST equipment commercially.
:Even Macs.

Sure you can buy a TEMPEST approved Mac -- if you have enough
money.  I haven't had any reason to look at this type of pricing
for about 10 years, but a TEMPEST rating in 1982 would raise the
price of a $2,495.00 Radio Shack Model III to something around
$15,000.00.

Bill


--
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller


Let me try sending this message again, I botched up the margins the
first time; *sorry* 'bout that :)

Does anyone out there know of any products using Motorola's Neuron(r)
chips MC143150 or MC143120. If so, what are they and are they utilizing
Standard Network Variable Types (SNVT)?
________________________________________________________________________


This subject seems to be incredibly inflammatory.  Those who subscribe to
_Biblical Archaeology Review_ will remember a spectacular letter battle set off when someone
complained about a Franklin Mint ad.  (_BAR_ is a great magazine, but the
contrast between the rather scholarly articles and the incredibly sleazy ads
is extreme.)  In this ad, they were hawking a doll with a head based on the
famous bust of Nefertiti, giving the face a typical doll-pink complexion.
The letter complained about this as a misrepresentation on the grounds that
Nefertiti was "a beautiful black queen."  This set off an exchange of
hotheaded letters than ran for several issues, to the point where they had
an article from an Egyptologist titled "Was Cleopatra Black?"  (The answer
to the title is "no"-- she was greek.)

I have to say that I hear a hysterical note in much of the complaining.  I
personally have seen only one blond-haired Jesus (in the National Shrine in
Wash. DC), and I found it very jarring.  Western representations vary
enourmously, but in general the image of is of a youngish male with dark
hair and beard, of a sort that can be found (modulo the nose) all up and
down the Mediterranean.

(Also, if what I remember is correct, the "Black Madonna" doesn't represent
a person with negroid features.  It is black because of an accident.  Joe
Buehler....?)

In the presence of all those marble statues, one is prone to forget that
greeks are rather likely to have black hair.  When one crosses the bosporus,
the situation breaks down completely.  Are Turks white?  How about Persians,
or various groups in the indian subcontinent?  Was Gandhi white?  How about
the Arabs?  Or picture Nassar and Sadat standing side by side.  And then
there are the Ethiopians....

Those of a white racist bent are not likely to say that *any* of these
people are "white" (i.e., of the racist's "race").  If I may risk a
potentially inflammatory remark, one undercurrent of this seems to be the
identification of modern jews as members of the oppressor race.  Considering
the extreme dicotomy between medieval religion on the one hand and medieval
antisemitism on the other, I don't think that this "Jesus was white" thesis
ever played the roles that some hold it did.

Representations of Jesus as black or korean or whatever are fine.  It seems
awfully self-serving to insist that Jesus belongs to one's own racial group.


[Stuff deleted]

Will, there has been a lot of discussion going on about this over in
s.r.c.b-s.
I will make the case here though and try to help you out:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it
is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(Ephesians 2:8-9).

Yes, it is by God's grace and our faith that we are saved.  We are not
saved by what we do.  However,

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
(John 14:15).

Keeping Christ's commandments is a "work" per se, and a demonstration of
our love for him.  Also,

6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his
vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years
I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why
cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I
shall dig about it, and dung it:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it
down.
(Luke 13:6-9).

Again,

16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye
should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that
whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
(John 15:16).

It is clear from these verses that we are called to bring forth fruit.
What is that fruit.  Well, Paul speaks of the fruit of the spirit being
love, joy, peace, patience, etc.  All of these are things that are manifest
in the actions that we carry out.

If a person claims to believe in Jesus Christ, but does not do the things
Christ commanded, I dare say, that they really don't have any faith.
Asking which is more important, faith or works, is like asking which blade
on a pair of scissors is most important or like asking which leg of your
pants is more important.

Good works should come out of and be a result of our faith.  To have faith,
true faith in Christ requires you to do what he commands.  The parable
above speaks allegorically of a person who does bear no fruit.  Christs
commands are actions, and if we don't do those actions and produce fruit,
then we shall be uprooted just like the tree.

It is a dead and useless faith which has no action behind it.  Actions
prove our faith and show the genuineness of it.  I can sit and talk for
days about the fact that I have so much faith in my ability to jump off a
building and not hit the ground.  In other words, I can sit and tell you
all day long that I have faith in my ability to fly.  I really don't have
that faith though unless I am willing to jump off the roof and take the
test.  Words and talk mean nothing.

I could go on and give more scriptures and if people want me to I will, but
this should be sufficient.

Hope it helped.

Jon

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Does anyone know who makes a cable or adapter that is wired according to
Apple's specs that forces the external output on LC's and the Powerbook's
160/180 and Duo 230 into a true VGA style output signal? The NEC Adapter does
not do this since their monitors are multisync they just route the signal into
the correct pinout but do not switch the Macs output into VGA mode.

Do I have to make one of these or does someone already have one made-up??

The following is the Apple spec for the LC cpu VGA Cable adapter. I'm assuming
that the Powerbooks/Duos will work with the same adapter(?);

Macintosh LC to VGA

The Macintosh LC can supply a 640 x 480, VGA timed signal for use with VGA
monitors by using an adapter cable.  The standard Macintosh LC supports VGA to
16 colors, and with the optional 512K VRAM SIMM, the VGA monitor is supported
to 256 colors.

Note:     The Macintosh LC supplies signals capable of driving TTL level
          inputs.  However, some low impedance input VGA monitors do not work
          with the Macintosh LC.

To connect a Macintosh LC to a VGA monitor, you need to make an adapter cable
from the Macintosh LC video connector to the VGA monitor.  Following is the
pinout description for the adapter cable:

Macintosh LC        VGA
Video Connector     Pin     Signal Name
---------------     ----    -----------
1                   6       Red ground
2                   1       Red video signal
5                   2       Green video signal
6                   7       Green ground
9                   3       Blue video signal
13                  8       Blue ground
15                  13      /HSYNC
12                  14      /VSYNC
14                  10      HSYNC ground
7,10                nc      SENSE1 & SENSE2 tied together

VGA monitors are identified by shorting pin 7 to pin 10 on the Macintosh LC
video connector.  The Macintosh LC grounds pin 7 on its video connector, which
results in pulling down pin 10 and gives the correct monitor ID for a VGA
monitor.


I'm attempting to write a serious policy paper examining whether the
proposed wiretap (or "Clipper") chip is a cost-effective tool for
police investigation.  That is, ignoring concerns about government
intrusions into individual privacy, is the value of easy wiretaps to
investigators greater than the cost to the communications industry,
and their customers, to support this wiretap technology?

A rough estimate suggests that wiretaps are worth about five million
dollars per year to U.S. law enforcement agencies.  (In 1990, 872 U.S.
wiretaps led to 2057 arrests, while total police expenditures of $28
billion led to 11.25 million arrests [ref US Statistical Abstracts].)
I'm working on estimating this wiretap benefit more accurately, but
I'd like to ask hardware experts out there to help me with estimating
the costs of the new proposed wiretap technology.

Please send me quotable/citeable estimates for:

- How many chips which would need to be made per year to keep all
  phones with wiretap chips?
- How much would it cost to make each chip?
- How much did it cost to develop this technology in the first place?
- How much more would supporting hardware, people, etc. cost, per chip?
- What percentage cheaper would encryption chips and support have been
  if private enterprise could compete to meet customer encryption needs?
- What percentage of phone traffic would be taken up by the proposed
  "law enforcement blocks"?
- What is the total cost of handling all phone traffic per year?

Put another way, the question I'm asking is, what if each police
agency that wanted a particular wiretap had to pay for it, being
charged their share of the full social cost of forcing communication
to be wiretap compatible?  Would they choose to buy such wiretaps, or
would they find it more cost-effective to instead investigate crimes
in other ways?


: I am looking for a package that implements standard
: image processing functions (reading/writing from
: standard formats), clipping, zoom, etc. implemented
: under X. Both public domain and private packages
: are of interest. The particular application area I
: have in mind is medical imaging, but a package meant
: for a more general context would be acceptable.

: Please reply to me; I will summarize on the net if
: there is general interest.

: - prateek mishra
: mishra@sbcs.sunysb.edu


I just bought a BJ-200 printer a couple of days ago.  I compared it to the
sample print of an HP DeskJet 500 and knew that the HP wasn't for me.  The
BJ-200 is pretty fast and really prints with good quality.  I can compare it
with the HP LaserJet IIID PostScript and they look almost identical (
depending on the kind of paper).  I don't have problems with the ink not
being dry, it seems to dry VERY fast.  Probably within a second.  Since
Canon is giving a $50 rebate until the end of May, it is really a good buy.

---
Sean Eckton
Computer Support Representative
College of Fine Arts and Communications

D-406 HFAC
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT  84602
(801)378-3292


: While not exactly a service incident, I had a similar experience recently
: when I bought a new truck.
: I had picked out the vehicle I wanted and after a little haggling we
: agreed on a price. I wrote them a check for the down payment plus tax
: and license and told them I'd be back that evening to pick up the truck.
: When I returned, I had to wait about an hour before the finance guy could
: get to me. When I finally got in there, everything went smoothly until he
: started adding up the numbers. He then discovered that they had
: miscalculated the tax & license by about $150. He then said he needed
: another $150 from me. I said we had already agreed on a price and it was
: their problem, I wasn't giving them any more money. The finance guy then

A similar thing happend to me a year ago.  I bought a used Ford Bronco
(which has since been stolen...  :(  )  and few weeks after I paid
and took delivery, they sent a letter telling me they goofed and
miscalculated the license renewal by $300 and that I need to send
in a check to "avoid further delay" in the processing of my registration.
The thing is, I had already received the pink slip from the DMV, so
I ignored it.  I received another letter and then the phone calls
started coming.  First from the finance guy and then from the general
manager, both hounding me for the extra money.  They left me alone
once I told them I already had the paperwork and pointed out the clause
in the contract that stated that the final price was just that: FINAL.
Afterall, they wouldn't budge if I had told them I wanted another
$300 off after the deal had been signed, right?  I told them not
to call again and that I would not do business with them in the future.
They didn't seem to have a problem with that.  This, after all, was a
used Ford at a Toyota dealership.

I had a much better experience buying a new Pathfinder about a month
ago.  It certainly pays to buy a car on the last Sunday of the month.
It was even raining too, so they had done very little business that
weekend and were really willing to deal.  I kept telling them I would
think about it, and they kept dropping the price.  Got a very good
deal and so far have been very please with the service.