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******   You may distribute this program freely for non-commercial use
         if no fee is gained.
******   There is no warranty. The author is not responsible for any
         damage caused by this program.

Important changes since version 1.30:
    Fix bugs in file management system (file displaying).
    Improve file management system (more user-friendly).
    Fix bug in XPM version 3 reading.
    Fix bugs in TARGA reading/writng.
    Fix bug in GEM/IMG reading.
    Add support for PCX and GEM/IMG writing.
    Auto-skip macbinary header.

(1) Introduction:
  This program can let you READ, WRITE and DISPLAY images with different
  formats. It also let you do some special effects(ROTATION, DITHERING ....)
  on image. Its main purpose is to let you convert image among different
  formts.
  Include simple file management system.
  Support 'slide show'.
  There is NO LIMIT on image size.
  Currently this program supports 8, 15, 16, 24 bits display.
  If you want to use HiColor or TrueColor, you must have VESA driver.
  If you want to modify video driver, please read section (8).

(2) Hardware Requirement:
  PC 386 or better. MSDOS 3.3 or higher.
  min amount of ram is 4M bytes(Maybe less memory will also work).
  (I recommend min 8M bytes for better performance).
  Hard disk for swapping(virtual memory).

  The following description is borrowed from DJGPP.

  Supported Wares:

  * Up to 128M of extended memory (expanded under VCPI)
  * Up to 128M of disk space used for swapping
  * SuperVGA 256-color mode up to 1024x768
  * 80387
  * XMS & VDISK memory allocation strategies
  * VCPI programs, such as QEMM, DESQview, and 386MAX

  Unsupported:

  * DPMI
  * Microsoft Windows

  Features: 80387 emulator, 32-bit unix-ish environment, flat memory
  model, SVGA graphics.

(3) Installation:
  Video drivers, emu387 and go32.exe are borrowed from DJGPP.
  (If you use Western Digital VGA chips, read readme.wd)
  (This GO32.EXE is a modified version for vesa and is COMPLETELY compatible
   with original version)
+  *** But some people report that this go32.exe is not compatible with
+      other DJGPP programs in their system. If you encounter this problem,
+      DON'T put go32.exe within search path.

  *** Please read runme.bat for how to run this program.

  If you choose xxxxx.grn as video driver, add 'nc 256' to environment
    GO32.

  For example, go32=driver x:/xxxxx/xxxxx.grn nc 256

  If you don't have 80x87, add 'emu x:/xxxxx/emu387' to environment GO32.

  For example, go32=driver x:/xxxxx/xxxxx.grd emu x:/xxxxx/emu387

  **** Notes: 1. I only test tr8900.grn, et4000.grn and vesa.grn.
                 Other drivers are not tested.
              2. I have modified et4000.grn to support 8, 15, 16, 24 bits
                 display. You don't need to use vesa driver.
                 If et4000.grn doesn't work, please try vesa.grn.
              3. For those who want to use HiColor or TrueColor display,
                 please use vesa.grn(except et4000 users).
                 You can find vesa BIOS driver from :
                   wuarchive.wustl.edu: /mirrors/msdos/graphics
                   godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au: /kjb/MGL

(4) Command Line Switch:

+   Usage : display [-d|--display initial_display_type]
+                   [-s|--sort sort_method]
+                   [-h|-?]

    Display type: 8(SVGA,default), 15, 16(HiColor), 24(TrueColor)
+   Sort method: 'name', 'ext'

(5) Function Key:

    F2 : Change disk drive

+   CTRL-A -- CTRL-Z : change disk drive.

    F3 : Change filename mask (See match.doc)

    F4 : Change parameters

    F5 : Some effects on picture, eg. flip, rotate ....

    F7 : Make Directory

    t : Tag file

    + : Tag group files (See match.doc)

    T : Tag all files

    u : Untag file

    - : Untag group files (See match.doc)

    U : Untag all files

    Ins : Change display type (8,15,16,24) in 'read' & 'screen' menu.

    F6,m,M : Move file(s)

    F8,d,D : Delete file(s)

    r,R : Rename file

    c,C : Copy File(s)

    z,Z : Display first 10 bytes in Ascii, Hex and Dec modes.

+   f,F : Display disk free space.

    Page Up/Down : Move one page

    TAB : Change processing target.

    Arrow keys, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down: Scroll image.
      Home: Left Most.
      End: Right Most.
      Page Up: Top Most.
      Page Down: Bottom Most.
      in 'screen' & 'effect' menu :
        Left,Right arrow: Change display type(8, 15, 16, 24 bits)

    s,S : Slide Show. ESCAPE to terminate.

    ALT-X : Quit program without prompting.

+   ALT-A : Reread directory.

    Escape : Abort function and return.

(6) Support Format:

  Read: GIF(.gif), Japan MAG(.mag), Japan PIC(.pic), Sun Raster(.ras),
        Jpeg(.jpg), XBM(.xbm), Utah RLE(.rle), PBM(.pbm), PGM(.pgm),
        PPM(.ppm), PM(.pm), PCX(.pcx), Japan MKI(.mki), Tiff(.tif),
        Targa(.tga), XPM(.xpm), Mac Paint(.mac), GEM/IMG(.img),
        IFF/ILBM(.lbm), Window BMP(.bmp), QRT ray tracing(.qrt),
        Mac PICT(.pct), VIS(.vis), PDS(.pds), VIKING(.vik), VICAR(.vic),
        FITS(.fit), Usenix FACE(.fac).

        the extensions in () are standard extensions.

  Write: GIF, Sun Raster, Jpeg, XBM, PBM, PGM, PPM, PM, Tiff, Targa,
         XPM, Mac Paint, Ascii, Laser Jet, IFF/ILBM, Window BMP,
+        Mac PICT, VIS, FITS, FACE, PCX, GEM/IMG.

  All Read/Write support full color(8 bits), grey scale, b/w dither,
      and 24 bits image, if allowed for that format.

(7) Detail:

   Initialization:
      Set default display type to highest display type.
      Find allowable screen resolution(for .grn video driver only).

   1. When you run this program, you will enter 'read' menu. Whthin this
      menu you can press any function key except F5. If you move or copy
      files, you will enter 'write' menu. the 'write' menu is much like
      'read' menu, but only allow you to change directory.
+       The header line in 'read' menu includes "(d:xx,f:xx,t:xx)".
+         d : display type. f: number of files. t: number of tagged files.
      pressing SPACE in 'read' menu will let you select which format to use
        for reading current file.
      pressing RETURN in 'read' menu will let you reading current file. This
        program will automatically determine which format this file is.
        The procedure is: First, check magic number. If fail, check
        standard extension. Still fail, report error.
      pressing s or S in 'read' menu will do 'Slide Show'.
        If delay time is 0, program will wait until you hit a key
          (except ESCAPE).
        If any error occurs, program will make a beep.
        ESCAPE to terminate.
      pressing Ins in 'read' menu will change display type.
      pressing ALT-X in 'read' menu will quit program without prompting.

   2. Once image file is successfully read, you will enter 'screen' menu.
      Within this menu F5 is turn on. You can do special effect on image.
      pressing RETURN: show image.
        in graphic mode, press RETURN, SPACE or ESCAPE to return to text
        mode.
      pressing TAB: change processing target. This program allows you to do
        special effects on 8-bit or 24-bit image.
      pressing Left,Right arrow: change display type. 8, 15, 16, 24 bits.
      pressing SPACE: save current image to file.
        B/W Dither: save as black/white image(1 bit).
        Grey Scale: save as grey image(8 bits).
        Full Color: save as color image(8 bits).
        True Color: save as 24-bit image.

        This program will ask you some questions if you want to write image
        to file. Some questions are format-dependent. Finally This program
        will prompt you a filename. If you want to save file under another
        directory other than current directory, please press SPACE. after
        pressing SPACE, you will enter 'write2' menu. You can change
        directory to what you want. Then,

        pressing SPACE: this program will prompt you 'original' filename.
        pressing RETURN: this program will prompt you 'selected' filename
                      (filename under bar).

  3. This program supports 8, 15, 16, 24 bits display.

  4. This Program is MEMORY GREEDY. If you don't have enough memory,
     the performance is poor.

  5. If you want to save 8 bits image :
       try GIF then TIFF(LZW) then TARGA then Sun Raster then BMP then ...

     If you want to save 24 bits image (lossless):
       try TIFF(LZW) or TARGA or ILBM or Sun Raster
       (No one is better for true 24bits image)

  6. I recommend Jpeg for storing 24 bits images, even 8 bits images.

  7. Not all subroutines are fully tested

  8. This document is not well written. If you have any PROBLEM, SUGGESTION,
     COMMENT about this program,
     Please send to u7711501@bicmos.ee.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.11.13).
     I need your suggestion to improve this program.
     (There is NO anonymous ftp on this site)

(8) Tech. information:
  Program (user interface and some subroutines) written by Jih-Shin Ho.
  Some subroutines are borrowed from XV(2.21) and PBMPLUS(dec 91).
  Tiff(V3.2) and Jpeg(V4) reading/writing are through public domain
    libraries.
  Compiled with DJGPP.
  You can get whole DJGPP package from SIMTEL20 or mirror sites.
    For example, wuarchive.wustl.edu: /mirrors/msdos/djgpp

(9) For Thoese who want to modify video driver:
   1. get GRX source code from SIMTEL20 or mirror sites.
   2. For HiColor and TrueColor:
        15 bits : # of colors is set to 32768.
        16 bits : # of colors is set to 0xc010.
        24 bits : # of colors is set to 0xc018.

Acknowledgment:
  I would like to thank the authors of XV and PBMPLUS for their permission
    to let me use their subroutines.
  Also I will thank the authors who write Tiff and Jpeg libraries.
  Thank DJ. Without DJGPP I can't do any thing on PC.


one way to get the system going with one floppy drive and one hard
disk on a 63 watt power supply is to first disconnect the power from
the floppy drive than turn on the pc, you will notice the hard drive
having a real difficult time getting up to speed, but it manages.
when booting is finished, plug in your floppy drive, now it will work.

(ok I know this is not very user friendly, maybe you are better off
buying a 486-66 with 300 watt power supply or something like that)


Don't believe the hype. There is no such thing as a PowerPC slot.


Government-Mandated Energy Conservation is Unnecessary and Wastful, Study Finds

  Washington, DC -- The energy tax and subsidized energy-efficiency
  measures supported by President Clinton and Energy Secretary Hazel
  O'Leary are based on faulty assumptions, a new study from the Cato
  Institute points out.

    According to Jerry Taylor, Cato's director of natural resource studies,
  we are not running out of sources of energy. The world now has almost 10
  times the proven oil reserves it had in 1950 and twice the reserves of
  1970. Proven reserves of coal and natural gas have increased just as
  dramatically.

    When standards of living, population densities, and industrial
  structures are controlled for, the United States is no less energy
  efficient than Japan and more energy efficient than many of the Group
  of Seven nations.

    Energy independence provides little protection against domestic oil
  price shocks because the energy economy is global. Moreover, since the
  cost of oil represents only about 2 percent of gross national product,
  even large increases in the price of oil would have little impact on the
  overall U.S. economy.

    Market economies are, on average, 2.75 times more energy efficient per
  $1,000 of GNP than are centrally planned economies.

    Utilities' subsidized energy-efficiency measurs, known as demand-side
  management programs, encourage free riders, overuse of competing resource
  inputs, an competitive inequities. Furthermore, DSM programs do not
  reduce demand.

    Taylor concludes that government-mandated energy conservation imposes
  unnecessary costs on consumers and wastes, not conserves, energy; that
  subsidizing energy-conservation technologies will stymie, not advance,
  gains in energy conservation; and that central control over the lifeblood
  of modern society--energy--would transfer tremendous power to the state
  at the expense of the individual.

    "Energy Conservation and Efficiency: The Case Against Coercion" is no.
  189 in the Policy Analysis series published by the Cato Institute, an
  independent public policy research organization in Washington, DC.

Available from:
  Cato Institute
  224 Second Street SE
  Washington, DC  20003

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    In order to maintain its independence, the Cato Institute accepts
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  Code.


I'm working on an X11R5 application and have concerns regarding
standard colormaps.

these colormaps."  I wonder what window manager the writer had
in mind.  Neither twm or mwm seem to create standard colormaps.

Of course, one can use xstdcmap to create standard colormaps.
However, xstdcmap doesn't seem to try very hard to avoid
conflicts with the default colormap.  When I use standard
colormaps created by xstdcmap, the rest of my display goes black.
So it seems as if use of standard colormaps causes the very
problem standard colormaps are intended to avoid.  Perhaps
if every application used standard colormaps, things would
be wonderful.  But not many applications seem to use
standard colormaps.

Finally, the operation of the functions XmuGetColormapAllocation,
XmuStandardColormap, and XmuCreateColormap seem inconsistent
with the section 14.3 of the X11R5 XLIB documentation.

    According to the section 14.3 of the X11R5 XLIB documentation (p. 436):

    For GrayScale colormaps, only the colormap, red_max, red_mult, and
    base_pixel members are defined.  The other members are ignored.
    To compute a GrayScale pixel value, use the following expression:

            (gray * red_mult + base_pixel) &0xFFFFFFFF

    XmuGetColormapAllocation, defined in mit/lib/Xmu/CmapAlloc.c, is
    used by XmuLookupStandardColormap, defined in mit/lib/Xmu/LookupCmap.c
    to select red_max, green_max, and blue_max values for the
    call to XmuStandardColormap.  When the RGB_GRAY_MAP property is
    specified, XmuGetColormapAllocation sets red_max to 30% of the
    total number of cells in the gray scale, sets green_max to 59%
    of the total number, and sets blue_max ot 11% of the total number.
    Referring to section 14.3, one would expect XmuGetColormapAllocation
    to set red_max to the total number of cells in the gray scale.

    When the RGB_GRAY_MAP property is specified, XmuStandardColormap,
    defined in mit/lib/Xmu/StdCmap.c, sets red_mult, green_mult,
    and blue_mult all equal to 1.  Referring to section 14.3,
    one would expect green_mult and blue_mult to be ignored.


Did they move Probert back to defense?  Why did I see him parking his ass
in front of Potvin all night?  Somebody is going to have to discipline
Probert if the Leafs want to win the series.  Perhaps a fresh Clark should
hit the ice at the end of a long Probert shift and straigten him out for
a while...

--


Is the 24v LH under $16K, though?


   Geez, where have you been, Ryan?  I proposed this theory *months*
ago.  Let's take it one step further, even.  If, as the surveys show,
up to 33% of all men have *had* a homosexual encounter, then there must
be an even *larger* percentage of people who have had homosexual erotic
fantasies.  But if less than 10% of the population is gay, what can we
say about these people who don't identify as gay but have demonstrated
gay potential.  Obviously, a large chunk of these people *chose* (or,
more accurately, were forced to choose by force of religion and social
sanction) to put those feelings aside, to be heterosexual.

   Obviously, Cramer and Kaldis fall into this category.

   These people are the ones who are so hung up on "choice."
Obviously, since *they chose*, everyone must have, and homosexuals are
just flaunting their "perversion" by choosing not to go along with what
society has dictated.

   Of course, I'm that most awful of perverts.  I chose, I gleefully
admit that I was heterosexual until I met the right man and *chose* to
indulge in my homoerotic potential.  Take that!

      Elf !!!
--
elf@halcyon.com  (Elf Sternberg)


   Each chip includes the following components:

      the Skipjack encryption algorithm
      F, an 80-bit family key that is common to all chips
      N, a 30-bit serial number
      U, an 80-bit secret key that unlocks all messages encrypted with the chip

Hmmm. A thirty bit serial number. And, we are told, the unit key U is
derived deterministically from this serial number. That means that
there are only one billion possible unit keys.

   To generate the unit key for a serial number N, the 30-bit value N is
   first padded with a fixed 34-bit block to produce a 64-bit block N1.
   S1 and S2 are then used as keys to triple-encrypt N1, producing a
   64-bit block R1:

	   R1 = E[D[E[N1; S1]; S2]; S1] .

   Similarly, N is padded with two other 34-bit blocks to produce N2 and
   N3, and two additional 64-bit blocks R2 and R3 are computed:

	   R2 = E[D[E[N2; S1]; S2]; S1]
	   R3 = E[D[E[N3; S1]; S2]; S1] .

   R1, R2, and R3 are then concatenated together, giving 192 bits. The
   first 80 bits are assigned to U1 and the second 80 bits to U2.  The
   rest are discarded.  The unit key U is the XOR of U1 and U2.  U1 and U2
   are the key parts that are separately escrowed with the two escrow
   agencies.

Hmmm. We must assume that generating the unit key U from the serial
number N rather than generating it from a randomly selected U1 and U2
is an intentional way of assuring a "fail safe" for the government --
U is completedly determined given S1, S2 and N. If S1 and S2 do not
change they constitute effective "master keys" (along with F), the
theft of which (or the possession of which by various authorities)
completely obviates the security of the system. However, more
interestingly, we know, for a fact that if S1 and S2 are fixed no
matter what the keyspace for U is no more than 2^30. Why not pick U1
and U2 at random? Why this interesting restriction of they key space
if it NOT to provide an additional back door?

I find it disturbing that at the very best my security is dependant on
approximately 30 bytes worth of information that could be written on
the back of a napkin.

Even if S1 and S2 change periodically, the rationale behind this
restriction in the size of the keyspace seems strange if one is
assuming that the goal is security -- and makes perfect sense if the
goal is an illusion of security.

If S1 and S2 do not change, even if they remain secret I wonder if
they can somehow be back-derived given enough unit key/serial number
pairs. We are assured that this cannot happen -- but no one
understands how Skipjack works outside of government officials and,
soon, foreign intelligence services that gain the information via
espionage. Presumably we will eventually have the information as well
-- reverse engineering gets more and more advanced every year -- but
by the time we know it may be too late.

   As a sequence of values for U1, U2, and U are generated, they are
   written onto three separate floppy disks.  The first disk contains a
   file for each serial number that contains the corresponding key part
   U1.  The second disk is similar but contains the U2 values.  The third
   disk contains the unit keys U.  Agent 1 takes the first disk and agent
   2 takes the second disk.  The third disk is used to program the chips.
   After the chips are programmed, all information is discarded from the
   vault and the agents leave.  The laptop may be destroyed for additional
   assurance that no information is left behind.

None of this makes me feel the least bit secure. The silly notion of
"destroying the laptop" appears to be yet another bizarre distraction.
We all know that you can't read data from DRAM that has been turned
off for more than a few moments. On the other hand, what we don't know
is why there is a need to generate the unit keys from S1 and S2 in the
first place other than to weaken the system. We don't know if the
agents in question would resist a million in cash a piece for their
information -- its probably worth hundreds of million, so you can make
the bribe arbitrarily hard to resist. And to tell you the truth, doing
this in a "vault" rather than in Joe Random Tempest-shielded Room
with a laptop computer seems like melodrama designed to make
high-school dropouts from Peoria impressed -- but it does very little
for most of the rest of us.

   The protocol may be changed slightly so that four people are in the
   room instead of two.  The first two would provide the seeds S1 and S2,
   and the second two (the escrow agents) would take the disks back to
   the escrow agencies.

What would this provide? Lets say the escrow agencies are the ACLU and
the NRA and their agents personally take back the disks and are always
honest. Who cares? The NSA must be laughing out loud, because they
have the algorithm to regenerate U given N and likely don't need to
steal they keys as they effectively already have them.

--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com


All these people who send in their polls should take a closer look at
NJD, they are a very deep team, with two very capable goalies, and
excellent forwards and defensemen.  Shooter in Richer, an all around do
it all in Todd, chef Stasny-master of a thousand dishes, power play
captain-Stevens.  Take a look at the numbers, or play with them and see
for yourselves.


Here in switzerland, the situation is exactly the same. The cable tv companies
even tried to stop amateur radio in switzerland in the beginning of cable
tv(they seem to be too stupid to know anything about international frequency
conferences or so). Even today, they use the cheapest possible coax running
into problems they can't solve anymore. As Bill noted, the only way is to look
for a solution with the neighbours *BEFORE* calling for the cable tv guys or
the fcc. The chance to find neighbours with some sense for reason is by far
bigger than with these people (especially the first ones). As anywhere in an
administration people don't like, if You tell them to work for the money they
get...
The problem is, that radio amateurs don't have the power to put trough their
rights in all cases. So let's hope they start soon with optical fibers and get
out of our freqencies.

Cheers   Robert  (HB9NBY)


Hi !

If you want to have Soft-Scrolling on your VGA, you have to change some
intern registers of the CRTC. But it is a little bit difficult to explain,
so I would suggest, you take a look at "The Programming of the
EGA/VGA-Adapter" by Addison-Wesley. You will find all useful descriptions
for every available VGA-Register.

-Boris


I wrote...

and it has since turned out that all the mirror sites I looked at were
fooled by a restructuring at the original site - zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu -
and hence were in a mess. That and a pointer to 'imconv' should get
me started. Ta muchly.

Cheers
	Markus


THE WHITE HOUSE

                  Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release                              March 14, 1993

          PUBLIC EVENTS ON THE PRESIDENT'S SCHEDULE FOR
          THURSDAY, APRIL 15, 1993

     10:20 am EST   The President meets with Leadership of Law
               enforcement organizations -- The Rose
     Garden

     	       	    	      OPEN PRESS

     3:00 AM EDT    The President meets with the National
     	  Ambassador for the March of Dimes Birth
     Defects Foundation -- The Oval Office

     	       	    	 TV POOL, OPEN STILL PHOTO, WRITING POOL

     3:15 AM EDT    The President meets with Mosaic Minstrels of
     	       	    New York, NY -- The Rose Garden

     	       	    	 OPEN PHOTO, WRITING POOL

     3:30 AM EDT    The President meets with the Berwick, PA,
     	       High School Bulldogs, AAA State Football
     	  Champions -- The South Lawn

     	       	    	 OPEN PHOTO, WRITING POOL

     	       	               UPCOMING EVENTS ON THE PRESIDENT'S
SCHEDULE

     	       April 16, 1993      The President meets with
     	       	    	      Japanese Prime Minister
     	       	    	 Miyazawa, The White House

     	       April 26, 1993      President Clinton meets with
     	       	    	      President Amato of Italy, The
     	       	    	      White House


[stuff deleted]

Ah, clarification by obfuscation.

Actually, the words "A well regulated Milita, being necessary to the
security of a free state" is a present participle, used as an
adjective to modify 'militia', which is followed by the main clause of
the sentence, the subject being 'the right', the verb 'shall'.  It
asserts that the right to keep and bear arms is essential for
maintaining a milita.  The sentence doesn't restrict the right, or
state or imply possession of the right by anyone or anything other
than the people.  All it does is make a positive statement regarding a
right of the people. The PEOPLE, as in you and me, as in the First,
Fourth, Ninth, Tenth, as well as the Second amendment.
The existence of this right is assumed - it is not granted by the
amendment. There is no stated or implied condition relating the right
to bear arms to the necessity of a well-regulated militia to the security of
a free state.
In other words, the entire sentence says that the right to keep and
bear arms is UNCONDITIONAL.

The final word on liberties and rights should not belong "to the
many".  That is why we have a Constitution.  Otherwise, a tyrrany of
the majority can ensue from "popular" opinion, a concept which you
should be familiar with from the Federalist papers.


Can somebody point out to me where I can find the specs for .GL and .FLI files
found on PC's?


I have just finished building X11R5 on a 386 running Interactive Unix (SysVR3)
and I am having a problem with xterm.  On any font larger that 5x7 it messes up
characters that are types, the cursor seems to be "too" large, or splits into
a 1/2 reverse video, 1/2 outline block (which changes when the pointer is moved
into the window).  I am trying to use monospaced fonts (not -p- fonts).  Is
there any way of changing the appearence of the block cursor is an Xterm?

 Thanks

--


Around here, even mentioning the DoD without a number in your .sig
can get you soundly FAQed.  Notice, however, that I myself did
not FAQ the careful monk.  He was, after all, waiting to press return.

Jack Waters II
DoD#1919


Well, I also have an LC III.  Popping the top revealed:

	One "socket" for an additional VRAM SIMM

	One "socket" for a 72-pin RAM SIMM

	One socket for a flat-pack FPU

	A processor-direct slot (PDS) identical to the LC/LC II, but with
	an additional set of connetions to one side (for the full 32-bit
	data path that the LC/LC II lacked

That's it.  I guess a board with a PowerPC chip could be made that would fit
in the PDS, but that's the only place.


Contact:   WATCHMAN FELLOWSHIP
           P.O. Box 171194
           Holladay, UT 84117-1194


I seem to recall that there was an article in Radio Electronics about this
subject. In fact I have a copy of the article in front of me, but I can't
find anywhere in the article a refrence as to what month it was in. The system
they describe uses an automobile ignition coil for the high voltage. The
article even includes some information on what kind of film to use and where
to get it.

Hope this helps.


Anyone who dies for a "cause" runs the risk of dying for a lie.  As for
people being able to tell if he was a liar, well, we've had grifters and
charlatans since the beginning of civilization.  If David Copperfield had
been the Messiah, I bet he could have found plenty of believers.
Jesus was hardly the first to claim to be a faith healer, and he wasn't the
first to be "witnessed."  What sets him apart?

Rubbish.  Nations have followed crazies, liars, psychopaths, and
megalomaniacs throughout history.  Hitler, Tojo, Mussolini, Khomeini,
Qadaffi, Stalin, Papa Doc, and Nixon come to mind...all from this century.
Koresh is a non-issue.

Take a discrete mathematics or formal logic course.  There are flaws in your
logic everywhere.  And as I'm sure others will tell you, read the FAQ!

Of course, you have to believe the Bible first.  Just because something is
written in the Bible does not mean it is true, and the age of that tome plus
the lack of external supporting evidence makes it less credible.  So if you
do quote from the Bible in the future, try to back up that quote with
supporting evidence.  Otherwise, you will get flamed mercilessly.

Just like weight lifting or guitar playing, eh?  I don't know how you
define the world "total," but I would imagine a "total sacrafice [sp]
of everything for God's sake" would involve more than a time commitment.

You are correct about our tendency to "box everything into time units."
Would you explain HOW one should involove God in sports and (hehehe)
television?


[...]
[...]
[...]

Try something like 24.2 feet.

EdGetACalculator

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mcguire@cs.utexas.edu
mcguire@austin.ibm.com


Yes, Colin... I have to agree with you here...  I've put the puck in
my own net the same way Smith did... (only once, mind you :-) and it
was definitely my fault.  It is NOT a common play to play the puck the
way that Smith did.

Luckily, for me...  when I did it... it was only a scrimmage :-)


Finally, an objective source.  Alomar's a great player, but so is Baerga.
Nice to see the objective source cited rather than "my dad's bigger than
your dad" posts.


I'd like this too... maybe you should post an answer key after a while?

Nanci


[KK] david

Yes?

[KK] give it a rest. will you ???

No.

[KK] it is increasingly becoming very annoying...

Barbarism is rather annoying for you, now isn't it, especially when it comes
from from a country, Azerbaijan, that claims Turkey as its number one ally,
protector, and mentor!


Insurance companies sure seem to go for No-Fault coverage.  Since the
majority of accidents are the cagers' fault, doesn't this imply that we
would have to pay much higher rates under a No-Fault system?

With a cars-only system, it seems to make sense on the surface: take the
legal costs out of the system.  But it looks like motorcyclists would
get screwed.

--
Michael "Chuck" Bain                       meb4593@icdfs.ca.boeing.com


Does anyone have the addresses to any of the following hockey teams
located in the Czech/Slovak Republics, Finland, Russia or Sweden?
Any information on how to find these addresses would also be appreciated.

Aik
Assat
Brynas
Budejovice
Chelabinsk
Djurgarden
Dynamo
Eskulap
Espoo
Farjestad
Frolunda
HPK
HV-71
Hifk
Ilves
JYP HT
Jihlava
Jokerit
Jokp
Kalpa
Khimik
Kladno
Kristall
Lada
Leksand
Litvinov
Lukko
Lulea
Malmo
Metallurg
Modo
Olomouc
Pardubice
Red Army
Rogle
Skoda
Slovan
Soviet Wings
Sparta
Spartak
TPS
Tappara
Trencin
Tuto
Vantaa
Vasteras
Yaroslavl
Zlin


Yes, and what about Paul saying:

26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
(Ephesians 4:26).

Obviously then, we can be angry w/o sinning.

Jon

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NEW POSTING, LOWER PRICES!!  MAKE OFFERS ON ANYTHING THAT SEEMS INTERESTING!!

A company I'm associated with is closing out some inventory and office
equipment.  Here's what's available:

Quan.          Item                     Description               Price ea.

        ******* NEW ADDITIONS!! ********

1             NOVELL              * 100 USER * version of         BEST OFFER
              NETWARE 2.15        ADVANCED NETWARE 286, with
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1             HAYES LANSTEP       HAYES Peer-to-Peer LAN            $40
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1             Canon NP1010        Great little COPY MACHINE -       $200
                                  makes great copies (just needs
                                  toner)  Reduce, Enlarge, etc.
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(End of new items)

2       Bytex RingOut             Token Ring Cable and MAU     (Was $750)
                                  testing and certification
                                  tool.  This is the standard  NOW: $625
                                  HANDHELD TESTING UNIT used
                                  by large companies such as
                                  Coca Cola and American Express
                                  to certify their physical layer.
                                  Current retail price: $1495.
                                  These are demo or NEW.

1       Microtest Lanmodem        Excellent MODEM SERVER for Novell (Was
                                  Networks.  Supports "Remote LAN    $900)
                                  Node" indial, modem pooling, and
                                  LAN to LAN asynchronous routing.   NOW:
                                  Ethernet version.  Current retail  $750
                                  price: $2000

13      Microtest Lanport         Standalone ETHERNET PRINT    WAS: $200
        AUI --> COM1              SERVER for Novell Networks
                                  (The Intel NetportII is      NOW: $150 ea.
                                  based on this.  Original
                                  retail: $595)  Most of
                                  these are BRAND NEW.

12      Microtest Lanport         See above                           "
        BNC --> COM1

11      Microtest Lanport         See above                           "
        BNC --> COM1, COM2

3       Microtest Lanport         See above                           "
        AUI --> COM1, COM2

4       Microtest Lanport         See above                           "
        AUI --> LPT1

1       Microtest Lanport         See above                           "
        BNC --> LPT1

2       Token Ring MAU            8-port IBM 8228 clone             $100

5       Milan MIL-03P             AUI to 10BaseT Mini TRANSCEIVER (WAS: $50)
                                                                   NOW: $40

1       QMS SmartWriter 8/3X      HP LaserJet PLUS Compatible    (WAS $400)
                                  LASER PRINTER.  8 ppm, 300 dpi.
                                  Based on the Canon Engine, it   NOW: $325
                                  has serial and IBM TWINAX ports.
                                  Emulates HP, Epson FX, IBM
                                  Proprinter, Diablo, and Qume.
                                  Downloads HP fonts.  Reliable!

2       IBM Quietwriter 2         Quiet, letter-quality PRINTER.    $100
                                  1 sheet at a time feed.  Have
                                  extra ribbon cartridges.

1       IBM Tractor Feed          For the Quietwriter above.        $25

3       IBM PC/XT Compatible      Misc PC/XT compatible COMPUTERS,  (WAS:
                                  some are "PCs Limited" (original  $150)
                                  DELL Computer Co.), some are
                                  "Tech PC/XT".  These come with    NOW:
                                  at least a 20 MB hard disk, a     $125
                                  360 KB floppy, monochrome video
                                  card, keyboard, and 640 kb of
                                  memory.

3       IBM PC/AT or Compatible   Some of these are original IBM (WAS: $200-
                                  AT's, some are TURBO clones.         $250)
                                  Clone brands include Tandon,
                                  Acer, and Everex.  Standard     NOW: $175-
                                  equipment is the same as above,      $200
                                  except most have 30-40 MB hard
                                  drives, and 1 1.2 MB floppy.

4       Amber Monitor for PC      IBM Compatible Monochrome TTL     $20
                                  type, brands vary, including
                                  Samsung, Magnavox, and ADI.
                                  (Mostly want to stay local on
                                  these - too hard to ship)

2       IBM 5151 Green Monitor    Ubiquitous IBM PC Display,        $20
                                  Monochrome TTL type.
                                  (Local - see above)

1       Zenith ZFL181-92          LAPTOP PC. Full-Size and Full-  (WAS $300)
                                  Travel keyboard, XT compatible,
                                  Backlit Supertwist (?) Display,  NOW: $250
                                  Dual 720k floppies.

1       Accton EtherCoax-8W       8-bit, BNC ETHERNET INTERFACE   (WAS: $60)
                                  card for PC compatibles.  This
                                  unit is nicely made (mostly      NOW: $45
        (Also have 1 used, BO)    surface mount) clone of the
                                  ubiquitous Western Digital
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6       Western Digital WD8003E   The "real McCoy" version of the   $50
                                  above.  Drivers are available
                                  for just about anything.  Used.
                                  Surprising performance for an 8
                                  bit card.  No DMA hassles.

1       Hedaka 2400 Modem         Internal, for PC Compatibles.  (WAS: $35)
                                  In box, almost new, works fine.
                                                                  NOW: $25

1       Hayes 1200B Internal      Internal 1200 real HAYES modem    $15
                                  for PC compatibles.  Untested.

Terms on the above are C.O.D., shipping extra.  As usual, offers are welcome,
but I think most of these prices are more than fair.  Most of this equipment
is tested and working perfectly, unless otherwise noted.

Please contact me via email as follows:

pk@wet.com  {netcom,hoptoad}!wet!pk


Am I supposed to take that as a compliment or a put down? Just wondering.
I do this as a service to the entire baseball world on USENET, especially
for those in the East Coast who can't get final scores for West Coast games
in their newspapers or late TV newscasts. This is helpful to fans in other
countries who either receive only weekly scores or updates by the week. Also,
many have requested for this kind of service previously but it was only
available through BBS's or some pay news services. By the way, mine is free
of charge and has no copyright restrictions.

Remember I only post final scores and the updated standings once a day to the
rec.sport.baseball newsgroup. Other than that, everything is done through
private e-mail. Currently, there are 986 people on my mailing list that
branches off into other mailing lists available for many others. And the list
grows by an average of 35 people a day.

If people on USENET really don't want to see the postings I do to
rec.sport.baseball on a daily basis, please just let me know. If the response
is overwhelming against the posts, I won't do it anymore.

Thanks for your time.

Joseph Hernandez
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They did.  For $950K.


	imho, you did the wrong thing.  You could have been shot
 or he could have run over your bike or just beat the shit
 out of you.  Consider that the person is foolish enough
 to drive like a fool and may very well _act_ like one, too.

 Just get the heck away from the idiot.

 IF the driver does something clearly illegal, you _can_
 file a citizens arrest and drag that person into court.
 It's a hassle for you but a major hassle for the perp.


Our shop uses a package called CADCore - very good - to scan and
subsequently vectorize original maps into digital maps. The problem is that
once the raster file is loaded into the CADCore package, a header is added
to the .HRF file which makes it unreadable by the supplied converter. We
would like to be able to ship some of the already-altered raster images for
further use on our workstations. So, here are my questions:

 (1) What is the Hitachi format? - I need this format so I can recognize
precisely what to strip out. I strongly suspect that it's a compressed
format - if so, then t might not be possible for me to strip out the
offending header.

 (2) Are there any UNIX packages that read and recognize HRF? It would be
really nice to find some sort of "hrftopbm" converter out there. ;)


Good point...also, I wouldn't be surprised that the components
they use off-shore are of inferior quality.  As long as it was
properly designed and robust, premium components are used, it
shouldn't matter where it is assembled.

An amp that runs hot has no bearing on how it's gonna sound.
The amp you have probably is running Class-A the whole day.

Actually, I'd be wary of excessively hot amps, 'cauz even though
the components inside may be rated to run that way, excessive
heat will dramatically shorten the life of *any* electronic component
regardless of quality.  In fact, an amp that does run hot to the touch is
because either the engineer or manufacturer of that amp wanted
to skimp on heatsinking or cooling to save costs!  Hmmmmm....

aaron


Boy, Travis..

Were you LUCKY!!.. you went under the new Texas Rangers
Stealth Patrol Car! Good thing you slowed down!


:
: Where could I find a description of the JPG file format?  Specifically
: I need to know where in a JPG file I can find the height and width of
: the image, and perhaps even the number of colors being used.
:
: Any suggestions?
:
: Peter

Try ftp.uu.net, in /graphics/jpeg.
--


Don't you GUYS think so?  I mean, c'mon!  What the heck are women doing
even THINKING of getting into baseball.  They cause so many problems.  Just
look at Lisa Olson.  Remember that feisty reporter that entered the New
England Patriots locker room?  She started crying like a LITTLE GIRL!  I
just don't think women belong in a man's sport.  Before you smart guys
flame me for this, I know the given example was about football.  Who cares?
 It still applies to other MALE sports.  How can we have women umpires?
Jeez!  Look at Pam Postema.  Just because she's a woman, everybody on the
face of the earth thinks it's great that she's getting an opportunity to
ump.  If you even watched the games and had an IQ greater than that of
roast beef, you'd see that she is not nearly as good as most AAA umpires.
Besides, she is probably more worried about cracking a fingernail with a
foul tip off of Wade Boggs' bat. Or Jose Oquendo's bat. Either way, there
are too many complications.


Yes, You bought the WRONG SIMMS.....You need 1X36 or 4X36, which are 72 pin
SIMMS.....These are better anyway becuase the send/receive data in 4byte
(32bit+4bit parity, one for each byte) Chunks. You will undoubtedly see these
SIMMS becoming more widely used in the near future.

Jason
--


Just posting to John Cormack.
I wanted to tell you that there is a "slight" difference between
Speedstar 24 and Speedstar 24X


It is very encouraging that a number of people took so interest in my posting.I recieved a couple of letters too,some has debated the statement that events in Bosnia are unprecedented in the history of the modern world.Those who contest this statement present the figures of the World War II.However we must keep in mind that it was a World War and no country had the POWER to stop it,today is the matter not of the POWER but of the WILL.It
seems to be that what we lack is the will.
Second point of difference (which makes it different from the holocast(sp?) ) is that at that time international community
didnot have enough muscle to prevent the unfortunate event,
today inspite of all the might,the international community is not just standing neutral but has placed an arms embargo which
is to the obvious disadvantage of the weeker side and therefore to the advantage of the bully.Hence indirecltly and possibly
unintentionally, mankind has sided with the killers.And this,I think is unprecedented in the history of the modern world.


Let me begin by saying I think this is the world's first religion to use
the net as its major recruitment medium.  Therefore, even if this
religion does not take off, its founding members will be very important
historically as this method of soliciting membership will eventually become
common.

The basis of this religion is to apply various aspects of current conventional
morality to the characters in Genesis and Exodus but assume that the Bible's
accounts of the facts and historical events is correct.

For example,

Story of Adam and Eve:
Adam and Eve are in Garden of Eden naked and ignorant.  Have unlimited
supply of food provided, but no clothing, jobs, or knowledge.  God says
not to eat fruit of tree of knowledge.  They do anyway, then try to hide
in bushes.  God finds them and forces them out of Garden.
(There are several different stories on what they were doing while naked in
the bushes that might have angered God.)

Traditional Philosophy:
1. The only reason you need knowledge or a job is to eat.  If someone else will
provide you with food, then you can be stupid and unemployed and it's OK. This
is why married women usually didn't work until recent decades.
2. Authority figures, such as God, whoever was behind the Vietnam War, Hitler
and slaveowners, are always right and should be blindly followed without
question by ordinary people, who can't make decisions for themselves.

Interpretation of events based on Traditional Philosophy:
They were not supposed to eat the fruit.  They should have done whatever God
told them to.  Like small children, they had their needs provided for and were
obligated to do whatever their "Father" said to.  Being forced to leave the
Garden and work in order to obtain food was a punishment.

Lessons from Traditional Interpretation:
1.  Ignorance is good.  Knowledge is bad, but tempting.
2.  Having food provided for you for nothing (read "welfare") is ideal.  Get-
ting a job and feeding yourself with what you earn is punishment.
3.  Public nudity is good.  Covering up is bad.
4.  Authority figures are intrinsically right.  Normal people are dumb and
should do whatever they are told without question.  They should not think for
themselves.
5.  People in subordinate positions are especially obligated to refrain from
learning.  For example, it should be illegal for slaves to learn to read.

1990's philosophy:
1.  People should seek education and employment outside the home, unless
named "Hillary Clinton" or "Murphy Brown".
2.  People should use common sense.  They should not kill other people
(binding of Issac, wars, Holocaust, etc.) just because they are told to.

Interpretation of events based on current philosophy:
They were supposed to eat the fruit.  God gave wanted them to seek knowledge
rather than be handed it on a silver platter.  Once they had gained knowledge
and (by seeking it) showed their ability to make mature decisions for them-
selves, they no longer needed to be treated like little children and were
REWARDED by being allowed into the "real world."

Lessons from new interpretation:
1.  Ignorance is bad.  Knowledge is good, but must be sought.
2.  Having food provided for you for nothing (read "welfare") is at best
a temporary measure.  Getting a job and feeding yourself with what you earn
is ideal.
3.  Public nudity is bad.  Covering up is good.
4.  Authority figures are often wrong.  Normal people are intelligent and
should consider whether the instructions are really a good idea and "alter
or abolish" bad governments.  They should think for themselves.
5.  People in subordinate decisions are often discouraged from knowledge
but should seek it anyway, and all the harder.  For example, poor children
without good schools should work especially hard in order to make a better
life for their children (and themselves).

I have tentatively named this new philosophy "The Church of Eveism" because
Eve's decision to eat the apple is man[sic]kind's first good decision, instead
of its first bad one, as traditionally believed.  She is therefore clearly
a protagonist.  God at first appears evil, for telling people not to seek
knowledge but on deeper analysis is also a protagonist.  As God rewarded the
decision to defy him, and provided the tree in the first place, the intention
and desire were clearly to have the knowledge be obtained, but to delay it
until it was actively sought.

---End serious discussion.  Begin humor.--

Save this post to disk (or file server).  Someday it will be considered the
most important writing since the 10 Commandments.  You want an original copy.

Stay tuned for the RFD on soc.religion.eveism...
Can I get a tax deduction for money I donate to this organization?

--Return to serious discussion when posting follow-ups.--


Sun's OpenWindows imake is broken. I suggest installing imake-pure, MIT's
X11R5 imake. You can get it from ftp.germany.eu.net in file
/pub/X11/misc/imake/imake-pure.tar.Z (117807 Byte).

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I am looking for any information about the space program.
This includes NASA, the shuttles, history, anything!  I would like to
know if anyone could suggest books, periodicals, even ftp sites for a
novice who is interested in the space program.


No, just a little anger.  Normally I don't rip people's lips off, except
when my candida has overcolonized and I become:  "Fungus Man"!  :^)

Jon

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Charter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.


Squeaky BMW riders.


The host file requires the names that you'll be using in addition to the ip address

sucb as

100.0.0.1 name.server.name
100.2.2.1 name.router.name


 It's the "opening-game effect" maybe. Pros arrive late, nervousness for
 rookie WC players, and problems to get the lines clicking may make things
 hard to get it going against these "worse" nations.
 I'd guess that the better team you face in the opening game, the better
 it is, since the chances of an upset are greater then.

 Some other reasons why the "worse" teams are so tough to beat was presented
 by Hans "Virus" Lindberg (former coach in Switzerland).

 1) The "worse" teams (referring to France, Switzerland, Austria, Italy etc)
    have now usually world class goalies.

 2) Their defensive play have become much more disciplined, they take much
    less unnecessary penalties.

 3) They use four lines which makes it harder to make them "run out of gas."

 4) The ice quality in the German WC rinks is poor.

 Another weird thing was that the Czechs played entertaining hockey..
 err.. just kidding, David.

 Alex? That's a new name for me ;)

 OK, I forgot the Czech roster at home yesterday, but now I have it.
 I don't know the teams for all players, so I would appreciate if
 you guys could fill in the blanks for me (especially I think some
 of these players play in Finland).

 The Czech Republic
 ------------------

 Goaltenders:	 1. Petr Briza		(Finland somewhere, right?)
		 2. Roman Turek		Motor C. Budejovice

 Defense:	 3. Leo Gudas		?
		 4. Milos Holan		TJ Vitkovice
		 5. Drahomir Kadlec	?
		 6. Bedrich Scerban	Brynas, Sweden
		 7. Antonin Stavjana	HV 71, Sweden
		 8. Miroslav Horava	MoDo, Sweden
		 9. Ales Flasar		TJ Vitkovice

 Forwards:	10. Petr Rosol		?
		12. Kamil Kastak	HV 71, Sweden
		13. Richard Zemlicka	?
		14. Jiri Kucera		?
		16. Jan Caloun		HC Litvinov
		18. Petr Hrbek		?
		19. Tomas Kapusta	?
		20. Otakar Janecky	(Finland?)
		21. Roman Horak		Motor C. Budejovice
		22. Martin Hostak	MoDo, Sweden
		24. Radek Toupal	?
		26. Jiri Dolezal	?

 Staffan


					Pardon me, a humble atheist, but exactly what is the difference
between holding a revealed truth with blind faith as its basis (i.e.
regardless of any evidence that you may find to the contrary) as an
absolute truth, fully expecting people to believe you and arrogance?

     They sound like one and the same to me.

     And nearly every time I meet a christian (or for that matter, any
other theist) who tries to convert me, I find this proven over and over
again.

     I see no wisdom whatsoever in your words

                                       Unfaithfully yours,

                                       Pixie

     p.s.  If you do sincerely believe that a god exists, why do you follow
it blindly?

     Do the words "Question Authority" mean anything to you?


I'm looking for a 1990-91 Kawasaki ZX-6 engine.  Just the engine,
no intake, exhaust, ignition, etc.  Preferably in the central texas
area, but we haven't had much luck around here so we'll take whatever we
can get.  Please reply via mail or call (512) 471-5399 if you have one
(or more...  really need a spare).

Thanx


As one of the "Clintonites" cited above, I'll try to clarify since this
is not a case of Clinton's "dishonesty." (I won't necessarily defend him
on other issues.)

There were NEVER any specific projects included in the Community
Development Block Grant portion of the President's proposal.  Congressional
Republicans, in an effort to discredit the stimulus package, selected what
they felt were silly sounding projects from a wish-list of POTENTIAL
projects prepared by the US Mayors' Conference before the stimulus package
was ever proposed.  (The document in question was designed to pressure the
White House to increase the size of the block grant proposal submitted
to Congress.  It didn't work.)

The $2.56(?) billion proposed in the stimulus package came nowhere close
to covering the total estimated cost of the original wish-list.  If it
were passed, communities would have to select which projects to fund and
at what level.

In the case of Spokane, Wa., Tom Foley's home district, no one ever
expected to be able to refurbish a local swimming pool (one of the
Republicans' examples) FROM THE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE STIMULUS
PACKAGE since the estimated cost of doing so exceeded the total
amount of block grant funds the city would receive from the stimulus
package for ALL projects.

The plan, instead, was to use the money on public housing construction
and remodeling to cope with a severe housing shortage.  (Yup, there are
places where that is true.)  The swimming pool improvements were near the
bottom of a long list of priorities prepared by the city.  The $3 million
or so to be received would cover only a few of the most pressing
priorities.

If the block grants are cut from the stimulus package, it is these projects
that will be affected by the lack of funds.  And that is why the Clinton
administration has been publicizing the issue.

A final point.  One may or may not like community block grants.  It is
worth noting, however, that Congressional Republicans' opposition to them
is new.  Since the Nixon administration, Republicans have generally
supported such grants as an alternative to targeted federal spending,
arguing that local governments are far better able to determine spending
priorities than "Washington bureaucrats."

Is it clear now?  Or is this all too complicated to understand?

jsh


The answer to both questions is yes.

All Scripture is true, being inspired by God.  The evidence for this
claim has been discussed ad nauseum in this group.

Similarly, all truth is absolute.  Indeed, a non-absolute truth is a
contradiction in terms.  When is something absolute?  When it is always
true.  Obviously, if a "truth" is not always "true" then we have a
contradiction in terms.

Many people claim that there are no absolutes in the world.  Such a
statement is terribly self-contradictory.  Let me put it to you this
way.  If there are no absolutes, shouldn't we conclude that the statement,
"There are no absolutes" is not absolutely true?  Obviously, we have a
contradiction here.

This is just one of the reasons why Christians defy the world by claiming
that there are indeed absolutes in the universe.

So?  People sometimes disagree about what is true.  This does not negate
the fact, however, that there are still absolutes in the universe.  Moreover,
evangelical Christianity, at least, still professes to believe in certain
truths.  Man is sinful, man needs salvation, and Jesus is the propitiation
for mankind's sins, to name a few.  Any group that does not profess to
believe these statements cannot be accurately called evangelical.


The majority of those who can open their mouths in public perhaps.
There seems quite alot of incentive for the British to have control
of NI, like using the North Channel and Irish Sea as a waste dump (I was
appalled at the dumping I saw in the harbor in Belfast). It is my
understanding that quite alot of radioactivity enters the water --
it'd be quite a problem if NI got its independence from Britain and
then stopped accepting the waste. Are you suggesting that British
industry isn't making profit off the situation as well?


Mac Classic 2 4/40  for sale

       1 year old, excellent condition
       Includes dustcovers, freeware/shareware (including many fonts )

        $800.00

	email or call 510/947-6987 (SF Bay Area)


Could be better caching on the disk.
Could be faster coil for seeks.
Could be that the disk spins faster so data transfers faster.
Could be that data is packed tighter so it transfers faster.
Could be a faster SCSI command decoder in the drive.

Among other things...


This is ok in my opinion as long as the stuff *returns to earth*.

If this turns out to be true, it's time to get seriously active in
terrorism. This is unbelievable! Who do those people think they are,
selling every bit that promises to make money? I guess we really
deserve being wiped out by uv radiation, folks. "Stupidity wins". I
guess that's true, and if only by pure numbers.

	Another depressed planetary citizen,
	hoover


The 1941 Lincoln Continental was the first car to sport the "continental
kit." The continental kit is not to be confused with ye olde outside
mounting bracket; a continental kit is a very specific ornament/storage
compartment. (The 1941 Continental has a neat trunk; it looks rather
like a laundry hamper, IMHO. :-)

				James


My very favorite ad for such a device is on the back of the latest
Damark catalog.  Quoting from memory:

[Big flashy type]
"Dual deck VCR copies any tape -- Even those that are copy protected!*"

(And underneath the ad in very small print: *This device is not intended
for making illegal copies of copyrighted material.)

:-)

--


Pair of Polk S4 for sale

Brand New never opened

$220.00


I'd *desparately* prefer it if we didn't rehash the same arguments
that went on ad infinitum last time.  That's especially true for
sci.crypt.  For that matter, I've created alt.privacy.clipper, since
the traffic is appearing in *many* different groups right now.

I'm going to focus here on some technical aspects of the plan, hence my
followup to sci.crypt.  Frankly, if you're not an absolutist, your
feelings may turn on some of these issues.  For example -- with an
80-bit key, simply splitting it into two 40-bit pieces is much less
acceptable than other schemes, because it means that if just one
repository is, shall we say, overly pliable, a would-be eavesdropper
would need to recover just 40 more bits of key.  I need not point out
in this newsgroup that that's pretty easy to do by exhaustive search.
A slightly more complex scheme -- XOR-ing the key with a random number,
and then with its complement -- would produce two 80-bit subkeys,
neither of which is useful alone.  That variant is much more resistant
to attack.  Clearly, one can get even more sophisticated, to protect
the subkeys even more.

Other thoughts...  Some people have noted the size and complexity of
the databases necessary.  But the id strings the phones emit could be
their back door key, double-encrypted with the escrow repositories'
public keys.  For that matter, they could do that only with session
keys, and have no back door at all.  In that case, the FBI would have
to bring every intercept to the repositories to be decrypted.  This
would answer many of the objections along the lines of ``how do you
make sure they stop''.

We can even combine that with a variant of the digital telephony back
door -- have the switch do the tap, but with a digitally-signed record
of the time, phone number, etc, of the call.  That provides proof to
the escrow agents that the tap was done in compliance with the terms of
the warrant.

I can suggest other variations, too.  Suppose each Clipper chip had 100
public key pairs.  Each would be used ~10 times, after which you'd need
more keying material.  (Not a bad idea in any event.)  This could be
used to enforce time limits, or rather, usage limits, on each warrant;
the keys the repository agents would deliver wouldn't last for very
long.

I suspect that the cryptographic algorithm itself is secure.  Apart from
the obvious -- why push a weak algorithm when you've already got the
back door? -- I think that the government is still genuinely concerned
about foreign espionage, especially aimed at commercial targets.  This
scheme lets the spooks have their cake and eat it, too.  (I've heard
rumors, over the years, that some factions within NSA were unhappy with
DES because it was too good.  Not that they couldn't crack it, but it
was much too expensive to do so as easily as they'd want.)  They're keeping
the details secret so that others don't build their own implementations
without the back door.


    I think this is mostly the fault of the people who write up the
literature and price lists being confused themselves. Since there are
two possible processor configurations and one of the them doesn't have
an FPU it does seem to be an option, even though it really isn't.

    Well, then allow me to end your confusion. The C650 ONLY come with
an LC040 in the base 4/80 configuration. If you are not getting this
configuration then you are getting an FPU.

    Good question. I have been wondering that since Feb. 10th.

    This is possible, but an option is something that you are supposed
to be able to request when you want it. What Apple has done is given the
buyer a CHOICE between configurations and not an OPTION.

    This is not unclear at all. In fact Apple has included in the ROMs
of those machines with LC040s code to recognize the presence of the full
040's FPU and use it. Thereby making the upgrade as easy as switching
chips. You pop the LC040 out and pop in a full '040.

    They did? I think I would double-check this. It has been stated
countless times in this newsgroup by two of the Centris hardware
designers that the LC040 and the full '040 are pin compatible and that
the C610 can be upgraded to a full '040.


I want to achieve an overall throughput rate of around 5 megabytes / sec
for very large data transfers.  (Around 5 MB.)

I have a Quadra 950.
I have a NuBus network card that can pump data in to mac memory at 8.5 MB/s.
         (using block-mode transfers)
I have a high-speed disk array (no asynchronous PB calls) that can
         achieve 6.8 MB/s.

Let's say all transfers go from disk to buffer to network card.

It is not enough to first transfer all the data from the disk to buffer,
then transfer all the data from the buffer to card.  (6.8 MB/s then 8.5 MB/s
result in an overall 3.8 MB/s.  Too slow!)

So I tried the following scheme: For an n-megabyte transfer,

Step 1:                                Load the 1st MB from disk to buffer.
Step 2: Asynch send 1st MB out card,   Load the 2nd MB from disk to buffer.
Step 3: Asynch send 2nd MB out card,   Load the 3rd MB from disk to buffer.
        ...
Step n: Asynch send the n-1 MB out card, Load the nth MB from disk to buffer.
Step n+1: Send the nth MB out card.

Even though the code apparently does execute the card transfer asynchronously,
and the card does not use the Mac cpu at all,  (It is using the buffer, tho')
each of the steps 2 through n take as long as if the two transfers were
executed one after another.  So there is no improvement in the rate.

Why?

Is the mac RAM dual-port?  (So the NuBus card and the disk driver can both
access data at the same time.)
Is the problem that the two devices, card and disk driver, both have to use
the same bus to mac RAM?

Is there anything I can do?


Brent, the Feds turned off the BD's electricity a couple of weeks ago...

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to the radio, TV, or newspapers,
though.

--


I used to think this way, and not just about X. For example, incorrect
English constructs such as "its raining" or "it's window id" annoy me.
However, there comes a time when popular usage starts to dictate the way
things really are in the world. Indeed, the fact that X won out over NeWS
was really down to popular opinion (I know, we all think it's(!) technically
superior as well!).

On a related topic, who is to say that "color" is more or less correct
than "colour" - being Irish, and hence using English English as opposed
to American English, I always use the latter except, of course, for API
terms such as "XAllocColor" and "colormap".

In a world that uses the term "Windows" to refer to Microsoft Windows,
perhaps the time has come to accept "X Windows" as a valid term for X.
I think that this is a more concise and uncluttered term than, say,
"the X Window System" and, let's face it, almost everyone uses it.
Ultimately, we all need product sales to more than just X-literate
people. In this respect, product recognition is important and a short,
snappy, descriptive title ("X" is positively obscure) will help
when dealing with the average punter (it's sad - I thought I was a
software engineer!). Indeed it is unfortunate that X did not become
popularly known as Windows and let MS worry about whether it should
be called "Microsoft Windows" or "the Microsoft Window System" or
how about just plain "Microsoft"!

To summarise (or should that be "summarize") the point of this message:
I think there are far more pressing issues facing the X community than
worrying about subtle distinctions in the naming of the window system
(or should that be "windowing system"). Whatever gets recognised is
fine by me. I agree that one should be careful in interpreting what
trade papers say. However, I would be reluctant to come to this
conclusion purely on the basis of how they name the X Window System.


These people were very silly.  Any team that gets to the World Series
can win the World Series, and anybody who ever expects a sweep is
crazy.  If you put the best team in baseball in the Series against
the worst team in baseball, the worst team would win at least a game
most of the time and very well could win the Series, though the odds
would certainly be against them.


Hi,
I've got a Multi I/O card (IDE controller + serial/parallel
interface) and two floppy drives (5 1/4, 3 1/2) and a
Quantum ProDrive 80AT connected to it.
I was able to format the hard disk, but I could not boot from
it. I can boot from drive A: (which disk drive does not matter)
but if I remove the disk from drive A and press the reset switch,
the LED of drive A: continues to glow, and the hard disk is
not accessed at all.
I guess this must be a problem of either the Multi I/o card
or floppy disk drive settings (jumper configuration?)
Does someone have any hint what could be the reason for it.
Please reply by email to GERTHD@MVS.SAS.COM
Thanks,
Thomas
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[lots of editing out of previuos posts]

Funny about that... my wife (my girlfriend at the time) used to get sick
after eating certain foods at various Asian restaurants, and never knew
why.  She'd go pale, and sweaty and then vomit copiously.  A couple of us
ventured a connection with MSG, and her response was: "MSG?  What's that?".
It also happened when she pigged out on some brands of savoury crackers and
chips... which I noticed (later) had MSG on the label.  Don't know about
double blinds, but avoiding MSG has stopped her being sick at restaurants.

cheers, John


From article <1993Apr16.162950.25849@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, by markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger):

A couple of months ago I went to a dealership to test drive a car.  Afterwards,
we sat down to discuss prices.  I explained that I wanted a car just like the
one I drove, but in a different color.  He said he could get one exactly like
I wanted from the dealer network within a day.  We then negotiated a price and
signed the deal.

Next day, I get a call.  He explains that they goofed, and they had neglected
to take into account a price increase. (The last price increase had occurred
over 4 months prior to my visit.)  If I still wanted the car, I would
have to fork over another $700.  As an alternative, they would honor the
price if I bought the car I test drove (which had been sitting around for
6 months and had a few miles on it). I said goodbye.  This was a good
example of how they can lowball you and still cover their butts.  It's too
bad more people don't demand honesty or these types of dealers would
no longer be in business.

The next dealership I went to was straightforward and honest.  First thing the
salesman said was, "Lets's see what you have for dealer cost and work out
how much profit I should make."  The deal went through with no problems.


There are several ways in which one can choose to intrepret any
constitutational issue :

   (a) Original intent
   (b) Subjectively intrepreted accordiong to political whims of the day.

If we use original intent as the basis for intrepreting the constitution,
it is clear that the founding fathers intended that the individual citizen
be allowed to bear arms similar to those used by soldiers of the day.

For references, I cite :

  - Federalist papers

  - "The Embarassing Second Ammendment", Yale Law Review,
    Prof. Stanford Levinson [sorry, I don't have the date handy]

       Prof Levinson sought to prove that the 2nd ammendment did not
       convey an individual right, but concluded that it did, hence the
       "embarassing" in his title.

  - Report of the Subcomittee on the Consititution, United States Sendate,
    97th Congress, Second Session February 1982.

  - U.S. vs. Verguido Urguidez (Supreme court case in recent years).
    Although this case did not pertain to firearms, Justice Rhenquist
    notes that the term "the people" is a term of art conveying individual
    rights, and specifically cited several used, 2nd ammentment included,
    in his opinion.

  - Title 10, U.S. Code.  This states that all males between the ages of
    18 & 45 not part of the organized militia, and all female officers of
    the national guard are part of the unorganized militia.


Check with Kyocera America, Inc.
           24 Prime Park Way, Suite 150
           Natick, MA 01760

They are one of the largest manufacturers of IC packaging in the
world.

It sounds like you would be a good candidate for wafer probing or at
least IC probing to test performance.  HP, Cascade Microtech and
Tektronix should be able to help you here.  One note, testing at high
frequency accurately can be an *expensive* business.


Hey folks,

on the course to develope a X window application, we encountered
a problem. How could I transform a X window bitmap into a postscript
files ? Is there any library routines or source code I can call to
do the job ?


[reply to ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth)]

Ron, you're an endless source of misinformation!  There ARE no sacral
vertebrae.  There is a bone called the sacrum at the end of the spine.
It is a single, solid bone except in a few patients who have a
lumbarized S1 as a normal variant.  How do you adjust a solid bone,
break it?  No, don't tell me, I don't want to know.


I'd love to know how "Jesus only" proponents would answer questions like:

-Who is this "Father" Jesus keeps referring to? Why does He call Himself "the
Son"?

-Why does He pray to the Father, and not to himself?

-Why does He emphasize that he does his Father's will, and not his own?  If He
 was doing his own will, what kind of example is that?  Should we follow it?

-When He says he has to return to the Father, who is He going to?

-When He says he does this in order that the Comforter, the Holy Spirit might
 come, who might that be?

-If He claims that the coming of the Holy Spirit is such a blessing that it's
 worth His leaving us and returning to the Father, what can that mean if there
 is no Holy Spirit?

-Why doesn't the best known Christian prayer begin "Our Saviour, who art in
 heaven," rather than "Our Father?"

Do they have answers to these questions that are even plausible?

(Further entertaining queries are left as an exercise to the reader.)

-drt

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Of course, free trade and slavery don't make much sense together in
a phrase anyway.  Perhaps Mr. Depken meant, "low import tariffs," but
that is quite a bit less than "free trade."


  The one I got only does about 4kb/s in text and 320x200 (VGA/MCGA) mode,
which is almost identical to the other W5186 based cards (ATI 68800
does about 6kb/s).  This is weird since the Orchid supposedly should
be much faster (and I was told by someone that it can do almost 16 kb/s),
since the VGA chip is covered by the Orchid label, I can't really tell
for sure if it uses a 5286 chip, but the spec. sheet that comes with
the board (no docs!) did say it has 1 meg dram and uses a 5286 chip.
Winmarks (3.11) is about 4 mil. slower than a Viper (34 vs ~38) using
standard palette.

  BTW if anyone is insterested, I'm trying to sell a Diamond Viper (2 megs
vram) for a friend for $300, email if interested (I'm too broke to
take it myself).

  I think it's available in limited quantites.  No idea of what VGA
chip it uses though.

  Be very careful with OEM P9000 boards though, the Orchid I got
for example only has a readme file on disk that serve as
documentation, and conflicts the hell with my VLB controller
card (or maybe it's my motherboard, an A.I.R. 486 VLB)


	I agree that a fully-loaded SL2 would come close in price to a
LOWER-END Ford Taurus.  A FULLY-LOADED Taurus, on the other hand, would still
be substantially more expensive than even the most glitzy SL2.  A fully loaded
SL2 would run somewhere around $17,000, while a fully loaded Taurus LX would be
somewhere around the $22,000-$23,000 range.  A base Taurus (GL I believe) might
start around $15,000.  Of course there is the Taurus SHO which can push $30,000
if you really try, but this is a totally different car than your mainstream
Taurus sedan.  Your statement was not entirely faulty, just a little
inaccurate.

Well, that's ok.  At least you're not bitching about dealer profits like some
of the other netters are.  You seem to have rationally picked out the car that
is best for you.  The Loyale is an aging design that is about to be replaced by
the Impreza wagon, so you probably got a good deal on one of the last ones.


When is Apple supposed to start bundlign the new ergonomic ADB Mouse
II with all CPUs sold?

jas

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Th following cd's are for sale. Each cd cost 10$ except otherwise indicated
 which includes shipping and handling.

Achtung baby				U2 *
Joshua tree				U2 **
The immaculate collection              Madonna **  $12
Love hurts                              Cher *
Garth brooks                           Garth brooks *
Red hot ..chilli peppers..               **
OOOOOHHHHH				TLC **
Light and shadows			wilson **

* Used only once.
** never used, most of them are still in shrink wraps

Please email to


I'd recommend that you hop on the back of it and cruise - that's a
really nice ride, if you choose your route with any care at all.
Shouldn't cost more than about $30 in gas, and maybe a night's motel
bill...

			       _MelloN_


The father of a friend of mine is a police officer in West Virginia.  Not
only is his word as a skilled observer good in court, but his skill as an
observer has been tested to be more accurate than the radar gun in some
cases . . ..  No foolin!  He can guess a car's speed to within 2-3mph just
by watching it blow by - whether he's standing still or moving too!  (Yes,
I realize that calibrated guns are more accurate than this, but . . .).
His ability is not that uncommon among people who watch moving things for a
living, I have heard . . ..

So what good is a radar detector except to give you a split second warning
that the guy who just cut you off to pass the guy ahead and to your left
is about to panic stop from 85 on a crowded freeway???


Can you aswer me one question? How did you get to be so retarded?


I have a quick question regarding the Rockwell Chipset
that's`come out relatively recently--It supports v.32, v.32bis,
v.42, Group III Fax, and so on...  However, I heard there
are bugs in the chipset.  I know someone that has a ZOOM
14.4 Modem that uses the chipset, and he hasn't had a problem.

What's the word on the chipset?  Is this a ROM bug specific
to a specific brand using the Rockwell, or is it the Rockwell
chipset itself?  And, if it is the Rockwell chipset, what
are the chances that if I buy one of these modems (using the
Rockwell chipset), that a) the bug will affect me, b) a ROM
change will fix/compensate for the bug?

Please send responses via email...

--Joe Zbiciak
im14u2c@cegt201.bradley.edu / im14u2c@camelot.bradley.edu

--
Joseph Zbiciak                         im14u2c@camelot.bradley.edu
[====Disclaimer--If you believe any of this, check your head!====]
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Any advice on HOW to buy a Land Cruiser? My local Toyota dealer says they
get two a year, and if I want one I can just get on the waiting list.
Forget about a test drive or even kicking the tires.
And if they are that rare, I doubt there is much of a parts inventory on
hand.


but what is Saturn's motivation here?  they're already selling every
car they make, with multiple shifts in the plant.  given this, what
possible motivation could they have to lower prices?

cheers,
  richard


I would like advice on how to configure my 486 to accept:
- Com1 + Com2  (currently on IRQ 4 and 3)
- LPT1 (IRQ7)
- Bus Mouse (IRQ5)
- Sound Card (no idea what to do - can be set to any)
-
using IRQ2 for Bus MOuse gobbled up too many cycles, and caused
loss of communications with floppy disks, and a few other
problems.

I could, I suppose, switch the 2 com devices externally, and disable
the second port on the Super IO card, but I really want to
have them both available.

COuld the sound card use IRQ2 without horsing up the works?

All replies apppreciated - and I only just subscribed to this
newsgroup - I assume there is an FAQ somewhere (rather, I'm
sure someone will tell me about it....)


When you have no principles, you can't admit that someone else might,
and everyone who acts differently from what you expect can only be a nutcase.
--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>


   "Women are only interested in clothes and shopping"
   "Whites are imperialist colonial fascists"
   "Blacks are lazy uneducated scum"
   "Men are rapists"
   "Homosexuals support child-molesting"

   Slogans, my dear Cramer, are not an adequate substitute for thought.


	Being a proud BU alumnus, I'd like to get a list of BU players in
the NHL so I can keep an eye on their progress. A lot of Terriers are
graduating this year so I hope to see them soon in the NHL. If somebody
could post or send me a list, I'd appreciate it. Please note if the player
graduated from here or not.


Well it looks as if Digi-Key sells a chip with the number ICL232 that does what
you want.  They are selling it for about $3.50...

Hope this helps...
Frank

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: At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was des encryped
: and the person that had sent it, went on vaction.  Rather than wait two weeks
: I set up a straight frontal attack with one key at a time.  It only took two(2)
: days to crack the file.  No, I don't have any faith in DES.

: A.G.

Fun!  Three questions:

1) What hardware did you use?
2) When you found the key, was there anything about it that was special
   that meant you had been lucky to find it early? (Like the first 30 bits
   all being 0)
3) ... or did you mean a dictionary attack rather than a binary key attack?


I guess the San Jose Mercury news is wrong then, and if so, why is the DA
involved?


Let's face it, if the words don't get into your noggin in the first place,
there's no hope. Now tell us, 'SDPA.ORG', a mouthpiece of the fascist x-Soviet
Armenian Government: what was your role in the murder of Orhan Gunduz and
Kemal Arikan? How many more Muslims will be slaughtered by 'SDPA.ORG' as
publicly declared and filed with the legal authorities?

 "...that more people have to die..."

                    SDPA <91@urartu.UUCP>

  "Yes, I stated this and stand by it."

                    SDPA <255@urartu.UUCP>

    	January 28, 1982 - Los Angeles
	Kemal Arikan is slaughtered by two Armenians while driving to work.

    	March 22, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
	Prelude to grisly murder. A gift and import shop belonging to
	Orhan Gunduz is blown up. Gunduz receives an ultimatum: Either
        he gives up his honorary position or he will be "executed". He
        refuses. "Responsibility" is claimed by JCAG and SDPA.

    	May 4, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
	Orhan Gunduz, the Turkish honorary consul in Boston, would not bow
	to the Armenian terrorist ultimatum that he give up his title of
	"honorary consul". Now he is attacked and murdered in cold blood.
	President Reagan orders an all-out manhunt-to no avail. An eye-
	witness who gave a description of the murderer is shot down.  He
	survives... but falls silent. One of the most revolting "triumphs" in
	the senseless, mindless history of Armenian terrorism. Such a murder
	brings absolutely nothing - except an ego boost for the murderer
	within the Armenian terrorist underworld, which is already wallowing
	in self-satisfaction.

Were you involved in the murder of Sarik Ariyak?

   	December 17, 1980 - Sydney
	Two Nazi Armenians massacre Sarik Ariyak and his bodyguard, Engin
        Sever. JCAG and SDPA claim responsibility.

Source: Edward K. Boghosian, "Radical Group Hosts Well-Attended Solidarity
Meeting," The Armenian Reporter, May 1, 1986, pp. 1 & 18.

ATHENS, Greece - An array of representatives of Greek political parties,
including the ruling PASOK party, and a host of political groups, both
Armenian and non-Armenian, joined to voice their solidarity with the
Armenian people in their pursuit of their cause and activities of a new
Armenian political force were voiced here on Sunday, April 20 during
the 2nd International Meeting of Solidarity with the Armenian People. And
judging from encouraging messages offered by the representatives of these
political groups and organizations, at least here in Greece, the Armenian
Cause enjoys abundant support from a wide spectrum of the political world.

The International Meeting of Solidarity was sponsored by the Greek branch of
the Armenian Popular Movement, a comparatively new political force headed
by younger generations of Armenians, who openly profess their support of the
armed struggle and of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia
(ASALA). The organization has branches in various European and Middle Eastern
countries and the United States although some of these branches appear to
have gone through a switch of loyalties because of the split within the ranks
of ASALA...

Voicing the support of PASOK, the ruling party in Greece, to the Armenian
people, was Mr. Charalambidi Michalis, a member of the Central Committee of
the party and the Greek member of the Permanent People's Tribunal...
Explaining the goals and aspirations of the Armenian Popular Movement
was Ara Sarkisian. Significant was the address delivered by Mr. Bassam
Abu-Salim, on behalf of the Popular Front for the movement's continued
support of the Armenians' armed struggle in their pursuit of their cause,
pledging that Palestinian operated and run training camps would always be
open to Armenian youth who need training for such a struggle. Later, Mr.
Abu-Salim, answering a question put to him by this writer, affirmed that
his organization had always trained Armenian members of ASALA and that
this policy will continue. "The doors of our camps are always open to
Armenian freedom fighters," he affirmed.

Among the prominent Greek politicians who attended the conference was the son
of Prime Minister Papandreou, who himself holds a post in the Greek cabinet;
two members of the Cypriot Parliament who had journeyed to Athens for the
specific purpose of attending the international gathering; representatives of
the Christian Democratic party, EDIK Center party, two wings of the Communist
party, representatives of an assortment of labor unions and trade associations,
a number of mayors of Greek towns and cities; two Greek members of the
European Parliament and other members of the Greek Parliament were also among
those who participated in the international conference. Also on hand to follow
the deliberations was the ambassador of Bulgaria in Athens.

More than significant was the large number of messages received by the
organizers, including the following: Palestinian National Revolutionary
Movement, Fatah; Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General
Command; the Central Committee of the Palestinian National Liberation
Movement-Fatah; the Socialist Progressive Party of Lebanon; Arab Socialist
Labor Party; the Kurdistan Democratic Union of Iraq; and numerous other
international groups, all noted for their radical stand in the Israeli-
Palestinian conflict.

                 SUPPORT FROM ARF-RM

Among messages received from Armenian groups was the Armenian Revolutionary
Federation-Revolutionary Movement, the group that has claimed the abduction
and assassination of key party leaders in Lebanon accused of selling out to
foreign interests and powers. The message clearly gave its support to the
Armenian Popular Movement pledging that the Revolutionary movement will
continue to "reveal the realities, no matter how bitter or tragic they are,"
to expose the anti-Armenian activities of the leaders of the Dashnag "Bureau."
The message was taken as an indication of the link, loose as it may be, that
exists between the dissident Dashnag group and the Armenian Popular Movement,
open supporters of ASALA and armed struggle.

The Armenian Popular Movement has set up its headquarters in a suburb of the
Greek capital, known as Neos Kosmos, where there is a large Armenian presence.
The headquarters are located in a two-story building, which appears to have
turned into a beehive of activity on the part of scores of Armenian youth, who
prefer to give their first names only when invited to introduce themselves...

Now any comment?

#From: vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat  Dogan)
#Subject: Re:Addressing.....
#Message-ID: <1993Apr8.233029.29094@news.columbia.edu>

n>crap posted by Mr. [(*]!

 o boy!

 Please, can you tell us why those quotes are "crap"?..because you do not
 like them!!!...because they really exist...why?

 As I said in my previous posting, those quotes exactly exist in the source
 given by Serdar Argic ..

 You couldn't reject it...

 Here we go again..
 In the book I have, both the front page and the Author's preface give
 the same year: 1923 and 15 January, 1923, respectively!
 (Anyone can check it at her/his library,if not, I can send you the copies of
 pages, please ask by sct)

I really don't care what year it was first published(1923 or 1924)
What I care about is what the book writes about murders, tortures,et..in
the given quotes by Serdar Argic, and your denial of these quotes..and your
groundless accussations, etc.

[...]

 I claim I have a book in my hand published in 1923(first publication)
 and it exactly has the same quoted info as the book published
 in 1934(Serdar Argic's Reference) has..You couldn't reject it..but, now you
 are avoiding the real issues by twisting around..

 Let's see how you lie!..(from 'non-existing' quotes to re-publication)

 First you said there was no such a quote in the given reference..You
 called Serdar Argic a liar!..
 I said to you, NO, MR.Davidian, there exactly existed such a quote...
 (I even gave the call number, page numbers..you could't reject it.)

 And now, you are lying again and talking about "modified,re-published book"
(without any proof :how, when, where, by whom, etc..)..
 (by the way, how is it possible to re-publish the book in 1923 if it was
  first published in 1924(your claim).I am sure that you have some 'pretty
  well suited theories', as usual)

 And I am ready to send the copies of the necessary pages to anybody who
 wants to compare the fact and Mr.Davidian's lies...I also give the call number
 and page numbers again for the library use, which are:
                 949.6 R 198

  and the page numbers to verify the quotes:218 and 215

 Now, are you claiming that there can't be such a reference by saying "it is
 not possible..." ..If not, what is your point?

 Differences in the number of pages?
 Mine was published in 1923..Serdar Argic's was in 1934..
 No need to use the same book size and the same letter
 charachter in both publications,etc, etc.. does it give you an idea!!

 The issue was not the number of pages the book has..or the year
 first published..
 And you tried to hide the whole point..
 the point is that both books have the exactly the same quotes about
 how moslems are killed, tortured,etc by Armenians..and those quotes given
 by Serdar Argic exist!!
 It was the issue, wasn't-it?

 you were not able to object it...Does it bother you anyway?

 You name all these tortures and murders (by Armenians) as a "crap"..
 People who think like you are among the main reasons why the World still
 has so many "craps" in the 1993.

 Any question?

Serdar Argic


Can someone please help me understand the current situation
regarding SIMMS?

I have a IIsi which I will probably keep for another 2 years.

I would like to add more memory, ie go from 5 MB to 17 MB.

I know that I will need 4 x 4MB, 80ns or faster SIMMS.

Which SIMMS, 30 pin or 72 pin?
Would the SIMMS I get today be usable in 2 years with a
newer, more powerful system?

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Rob


One thing is certain, though, its still too cold.  After about 40

Hell! This is WARM. I retired my fleece from under the Aerostich last
month when the temperature got aboce 40. Try living a couple of years
on the dole, so you cant afford any heating. You put the gear on in
October, abd you take it off again in May. Getting out on the bike
seems like a luxury in comparison cos oyur usuallu going somewhere
warm.

Its all relative.


Oh yeah, and men just haaaaate to brag about "how many woman they've had."


I have a problem with icon pixmap. My application has to run
   under openwindow and motif. I wrote my program in Motif with pixmap and
   icons. It runs fine under motif/motif window manager and X11R5/mwm. But
   the icon pixmap does not show up under openwin/olwm and X11R5/olwm.

             Has anybody got into this kind of problem? Need a clue. An
   example which works in both X11R5/motif and openwindow will be great.


But I gotta tell ya,

If the Hawks can't beat the Blues in a game that
IS significant I can't wait to see how the Blues
might do against Toronto ;)

BTW, if you think that the Hawks deserved to win that game
I think you were not watching the same one everyone else
was.

ROAR'IN LEAF FAN


We're considering getting a Ford Explorer XLT with 4WD and we have the
following questions (All we would do is go skiing -- no off-roading):

1. With 4WD, do we need the "performance axle" - (limited slip axle).
Its purpose is to allow the tires to act independently when the tires
are on different terrain.

2. Do we need the all-terrain tires (P235/75X15) or will the
all-season (P225/70X15) be good enough for us at Lake Tahoe?

Thanks,

Tom

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My impression is that *for advanced work* you will be much better off with
German reference works (lexicons, concordances especially).  For a first-time
encounter, my *personal* preference would be to deal with a textbook written in
my native language.  But if you know German and are in Germany, pick up all the
reference books you think you can handle.  (I only know these works by
reputation, since my German is most rusty, but I'd look at the following books:
Koehler's lexicon, Mandeldern's concordance, the Jenni & Westermann theological
dictionary of the OT.)

The amount of language instruction available at US seminaries varies widely,
mostly depending on the denominational heritage of the school.  Presbyterian
and Reformed seminaries probably place a lot more emphasis on the biblical
languages than others.  (Of course, any divinity school that has a doctoral
program in biblical studies is going to have extensive language resources!  But
there are quite a few masters-degree-granting seminaries here at which the
attitude seems to be more, "Well, if you're *really* interested we'll give you
a semester-long course, but we don't understand why . . .")


True to a point.  If you were to ask a Buddhist atheist...

Actually, yes and no, Hell is eternal death.  Actually, the way
     I've had it related to me, it's more of an eternal damnation,
     where sinners will feel the licking flames of Hell.  If I
     supposedly can feel these flames, I would assume I'm still
     alive, but suffering and away from God.

I believe Jehovah's Witnesses have a similar view, where the body
     sleeps for ever...

I don't have a problem with being condemned to Hell either.  The
     way I see it, if God wants to punish me for being honest in
     my skepticism (that is, for saying he doesn't exist), He
     certainly wouldn't be changing His nature.  Besides, I would
     rather spend an eternity in Hell than be beside God in Heaven
     knowing even one man would spend his "eternal life" being
     scorched for his wrongdoings...

Stephen

    _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/   _/       _/    * Atheist
   _/        _/    _/   _/ _/ _/ _/     * Libertarian
  _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/   _/   _/  _/      * Pro-individuality
       _/  _/     _/  _/       _/       * Pro-responsibility
_/_/_/_/  _/      _/ _/       _/ Jr.    * and all that jazz...


You've overlooked a fundamental Truth:

	both headcount and budget of any government agency are
	monotonic increasing functions.

Given that Truth, you need to look for what the agency can do to occupy
all those people and spend all that money when crypto is unbreakable.

Perhaps they could talk the world's telephone companies into making equipment
they could break into and tap.

Maybe they could convince people that distributed computing was a good idea
so that even the internal state of a process would be available for access
by wiretapping.

Maybe....