Smith Corona Typewriter for sale,

        Model SCM 70 electric.

Great for forms, envelopes, labels, small things, etc. that you just
can't do with your microcomputer.

Built like a tank, but not big nor that heavy.  A classic compact
electric, with padded storage bag.  No scratches, enamel paint chips
or dents.  Cloth ribbon, 2 colours.  Will accept best offer near $70.

(Selling for a friend, so these are her instructions not mine.
RSVP to this account, though.  Make any other offers anyways,
I'll pass them along.  A single sheet-feeder for the Macintosh
Imagewriter II would be acceptable in trade, for example.)

gld


I've been using version 2.5.2 of ghostscript, and I'm quite satisfied
with it.  There are, actually, 3 versions:  a plain dos version, a 386
version, and a windows version.


Let me carry that a step further.  Most doctors would not claim to be
infallible.  Indeed, they would generally admit that they could conceivably
be wrong, e.g. that in this case, a blood tranfusion might not turn out to
be necessary after all.  However, the doctors would have enough confidence
and conviction to claim, out of genuine concern, that is IS necessary.  As
fallible human beings, they must acknowledge the possibility that they are
wrong.  However, they would also say that such doubts are not reasonable,
and stand by their convictions.


/ iftccu:talk.politics.guns / hays@ssd.intel.com (Kirk Hays) /
   3:31 pm  Apr 13, 1993 /

   >Some of the pro-gun posters in this group own no guns.  The dread
   >"Terminator", aka "The Rifleman", owned no firearms for several
   >years while posting in this group, as an example.  There are
   >others.

For what it is worth, I own no firearms of any sort.  As long-time
readers of this group know, I am dedicated to the RKBA.

This is not about toys.  It is about freedom.


Hello , I think you are probaly right, in spite of the movement
it is getting better each day.  cheers


The FDA, I believe.  Rules say no blood or blood products donations
from anyone who has been in a malarial area for 3 years.  I was a platelet
donor until my Thailand trip and my blood bank was very disappointed
to find out they couldn't use me for 3 years.

Not necessarily.  The same rules may not apply to organ donation
as to blood donation.  In fact, I'm sure they don't.

--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks  N3JXP      | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  it is shameful to surrender it too soon."


Two years old Crate Guitar Amplifier model G80XL.

	- Handles upto 80 Watts.
	- Dual Input.
	- Two channels.
	- Reverb.
	- Three band eq.
	- Distortion.


<I might have a need in the future to display rotated text.  I noticed the
<"xvertext" package on the net.  It looks very good, but it has one slight
<problem.  The API to it assumes you have a font name, not an already loaded
<font.  It shouldn't be too difficult to split up the function into two
<interface routines, one with a font name, and one with an XFontStruct, but
<I thought I would ask the author (Alan Richardson
<(mppa3@uk.ac.sussex.syma)) first in case he was planning this already.
<Unfortunately, his email address bounced.  Does Alan R. or the current
<maintainer of "xvertext" see this?

The e-mail address you mentioned above is for use with the U.K.  As you know,
the Brits do everything backwards :-)  So, the real address from the states is:

	mppa3@syma.sussex.ac.uk

Give it a try.


I know it's a long shot, but maybe someone went through this and will have
some comments to share.

The story is this: I bought a car out of state, and I'm trying to get
the safety inspection in Pennsylvania. The problem is that the car has
aftermarket tint on all windows except the windshield. The tint is rather
weak, and you can clearly see the inside of the car through the tint.

The inspection garage said that they won't pass it unless I get a
waiver from the state police. So I went to the state police - the
officer told me that aftermarket tint is illegal, and I can get a
waiver only for a pre-84 car or for a medical reason. I asked him to
show me the section of the vehicle code that says it's illegal.  He
showed it to me and the paraghaph said that you can't have tint, if
you can't see the inside of the car because of the tint. When I told
him that you can in fact see the inside very well, he shut the book
and said "It's just illegal, and in fact we can have someone give you
a ticket for it right now." Well, won't argue with that...

Since the vehicle code says it's OK as long as you can see through the
tint, I'd like to keep it (I'll re-read the vehicle code in the
library).  I'd also like to get some sort of paper from the police
that says it's OK, so I can get the inspection, and so that I won't
get in trouble for the tint later on. I also wouldn't mind registering
a complaint against that officer - he really pissed me off.

So does anyone have any experience getting that sort of a paper from
the police, especially in Pennsylvania? Does anyone have any experience
registering a complaint against an officer? I called the station
later on today, but they basically said there is no place where I
could register a complaint against an officer... And if I do decide
to keep the tint and get a ticket anyway, how much of a chance do
I stand to succesfully appeal the ticket in court?

Any comments about it will be welcome!


Hehehe, so you say, but this objective morality somehere tells you
that this is not the case, and you don't know all the rules of such
transcendental game systems...

Cheers,
Kent


OK, as one last attempt, I'll take a different tack.

We all seem to be in agreement that there are two explanations for why
one can use the handlebars to lean a moving motorcycle. The question is,
is one of the effect dominant, and which one is it? The idea would be to
design an experiment which would seaprate the two characteristics, and
see which effect produces a similar result to the one with which those of
us who have bikes are familiar.

Let's look at the one that, so far, has sparked no controversy on its
own, gyroscopic precession. To examine this alone, we would have to
get rid of the contact patch effect, by not allowing the contact patches
to transmit any force. The wheels and steering mechanism would have to
remain, and be attached to a vehicle with about the same weight as a bike,
through suspension (so that the wheels transmit forces to the bike the
same way) similar to a bikes. An experiment would be to ride a bike along
a dry road to get moving and to get the wheels spinning, then change
surfaces to something that won't transmit forces through the contact
patches, and try a steering manoeuvre to see if the bike leans. It
probably would, since some of us know how easy it is to fall down on ice,
but we wouldn't get a good idea of how well or what it feels like
because, without the contact patches, we can't turn.  Maybe there's a
better way. Besides, even ice doesn't get rid of the contact patch
forces altogether, so we'd have to find a really frictionless surface.
You'd have to try it again with the wheels locked to really know if it
was the rotation that did it.

Looking at the contact-patch effect only, however, is fairly simple.
Now we have to find a vehicle that gets the about the same magnitude and
direction of cantact patch forces as a motorcycle, and transmits them
about the same way to the vehicle, but without rotating wheels.
How it gets the contact patch forces is irrelevant, we're just looking
for something that has contact patches that can go straight and not
sideways, and skis or skates would do fine. I don't know of any snow-ski
or skate bikes, but up here we have the Suzuki Wetbike that is arranged
like a motorcycle but has fat water skis where there should be wheels.
I think the propellor is in front of the rear ski, or something like
that, but we could try it at a coast to get rid of most of its effect.
Now I admit that this is second hand info (although I'd love to try
one of these), but the review in the local cycle rag and a guy in
a bike shop that sells them both say that this machine handles very
much like a motorcycle, in that you countersteer it to turn.
So we have contact patches that transmit similar forces to a bike's,
a similar suspension arrangement, and no gyroscopes, but we do have
countersteering.

Conclusion: you don't need gyroscopes to countersteer vehicles that have
motorcycle-like contact patch arrangements. We still don't know what
real effect the gyroscopes have when they're there, but from my observations
of how handlebar angle, force, etc. relate to steering in general, I'm
willing to bet that they're not the dominant factor in countersteering.

If you don't like this conclusion, then don't accept it, but my motorcycle's
behaviour is consistent with it. If someone can prove otherwise, go ahead.


Sorry to waste the bandwidth. Does anyone know a software mail order company
called "Software Unlimited"? I ordered a software from them and they charged my
credit card but never did send the package to me.

I call them many times but nobody answer the phone. I also check Computer
Shoppers and found they don't advertise anymore. If you know if they are still
in business or you know how to contact them, please tell me.

Thank you very much.


I have a Paradise SVGA with 1Mb, the 90c030 chip (1D). The docs say that
I can display the following modes : 640x480x32k colours and 800x600x32k cols
if I have the RAMDAC HiColor Chip. I have checked the board and I do have
such a chip. Now, the problem is that I can't get this mode to work !
Graphics Workshop 6.1 claims that it can display 24 bit images dithered
down to 15 bit colour with my board, but it doesn't work. I have tried
writing some assembler code to get the modes working and I have found out
that each pixel is addressed by a word ( 16 bit ), but only the lower 8 bits
are considered ( this happens in 800x600 mode, the 640x480 mode refuses to
work i.e. remains in text mode ).
Could someone please help me.


Anyone know how an application can retrieve the name of the font from
an application given an XFontStruct *?
Would XGetFontProperty work if I passed XA_FONT_NAME?
anyone know details of this?  Thanks in advance.
Brian


How was this trade bad? I seem to recall Ratelle and Middleton making a pretty
good centre - right wing combination, and the Bruins also got Brad Park in the
deal (and they also lost Vadnais and somebody else). After the trade, the
Bruins were in two finals and one semi-final, all of which, of course, they
lost to Montreal (which should please you to no end). I doubt, however, keeping
Esposito would have made a difference in those series, as he did not for
the Rangers in '79 (or any of his years in Boston, for that matter).

Riston
--
Riston


468DX2/66 EISA/VESA. Royal, among others, is celling such a system for $2010.

--
Penio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu


500,000 to 1,000,000 self-defense incidents a YEAR doesn't count with you?

Maybe they're just UNLUCKY.  If a rapist pulls a woman into an alley
in Boston, chances are almost certain that she won't be counted
as one of those self-defenders because our local constabulary didn't
consider it important that she be allowed to arm herself.  Even though
the shotgun she owns at home makes her show up in the "gun owner" column.

Ironic words for somebody who lives in Florida.  The "average threat
level" in Florida has been REDUCED by a liberal CCW policy.  It's well
known that your local thugs like to target tourists precisely because
they are less likely to be carrying than your natives.  Come on up to
Boston, or NYC, or Washington DC, and see how much diddlysquat the
"average threat level in the country" means to a resident there.

Sometimes this works.  Sometimes it just lands your good neighbors
on the dance card for the next wave of drive-bys.  Someone here once
told a story about LA gangs moving into Phoenix.  I've misplaced the
original text, but the story started with one resident calling the
cops on a gang member.  Sure enough, a few nights later, there was a
drive-by performed at the resident's house.  Except that this time,
unlike in LA, the entire street came out and returned fire, putting
an end to the car's occupants.  The gang packed up and left.

Of course, in LA, or in a place like Florida after the hurricane,
your first problem is to FIND an officer to step up to and tell
anything.

Look, nobody is arguing this.  I have a fire extinguisher at home.
That doesn't mean I can be careless about tossing my burnt matches
on the carpet.  I live carefully, monitor the woodstove, get my flue
cleaned twice a year, and test my smoke alarms annually.  But if --
DESPITE all this -- a fire does start, it's too late for any of
these things EXCEPT the extinguisher.

You seem to be agreeing with your opponent.  You can't trust your
government to protect you from abusers and violators -- white-collar,
blue-collar, epauletted, or tank-shirted.  Ultimately, no one has the
power to enforce your "rights" but you.  Unless you've given up that
power.

Too many people fit that category, that is true.  Some of us like to
believe that they are uninterested in the facts behind the case for gun
ownership because they've been conditioned to believe that there AREN'T
any.  You seem content to underestimate the electorate; I'm willing to
try to raise their consciousness.

I think we can.

HCI was founded in what, 1980?  In the mid-80's, they ran a "One
Million Strong!" campaign for two years before reaching this goal.
My understanding is that they "reached" it by the stratagem of including
wide classes of people other than dues-paying members.  (I can't speak
authoritatively on this -- maybe somebody else has details.)  Then they
started running a "Two Million Strong!" campaign for a while -- but they
let it slip into unannounced obscurity when it became clear that they
simply were never going to reach that level of membership.

In 1964, just after the commencement of the Dodd Hearings -- the starting
point of the modern gun-control movement, the NRA had a mere 625,000 members.
By 1968, barely after the first murmurs of future registration, it had
about a million.  Today, it has over three million members, making it the
third largest membership organization in the country (next to AARP and AAA).
And its membership is GROWING FASTER than at any previous time.  (Historical
figures from Kukla's "Gun Control," pp. 61 and 420.)

As you say, many of the people in the middle of this debate are bemused
by their T-bones and MTV.  That leaves hard-core gun-owners against
hard-core gun banners.

I know a number of ex-HCI members who have recently become NRA members.
I've never heard of a single one who has gone the other way.

Yes, I think we can and will win this one.

I think they would be used far less to hammer nails, as well, but,
like you, I can't give any citation showing that this utilization is
CURRENTLY significant at more than an anecdotal level.  If you can,
I'm waiting.
--


From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)

	You obviously haven't read the information about the system. The chips
	put out serial number infomation into the cypher stream to allow
	themselves to be identified. The system does not rely on registering
	people as owning particular phone units.

And probably as a back door to allow re-generation of the secret key.

Have we determined yet that S1 and S2 don't ever change?


The subject line says it all.  Is it terribly difficult to get tickets
to Penguins games, especially now that they are in the playoffs?  Would
it be easy to find scalpers outside of the Igloo selling tickets?


I'm in Edmonton, and while that's usually (or at least OFTEN) the case,
here we were "treated" to the actual ABC telecast of the Kings/Flames
game.  I'm with whoever said it earlier - Don Witless (er, Whitman) is
a poor commentator, and not just for hockey.  Normally, if the Oilers
were still playing (augh), I would turn off the sound and listen to
the radio broadcast to get decent play-by-play announcing.


What's the difference between loading mouse.com in autoexec.bat and
doing device=mouse.sys in config.sys??

which one is better?

Thanks a lot


	Here! Here!  But any call for responsibility and accountability
	from police is invariably interpreted as being "soft on crime".
	Being "tough on crime" and building more prisons and seizing more
	property is the politically astute thing to do these days.

	And citizen complacency!

	Don't forget the politicians that write the laws that make it
	easy for the police agencies to become corrupt.  The War on Some
	Drugs brought us this corruption and only an end to it (legalization)
	will stop the corruption.


op that worked was the "Macintosh
|> >Software" loop (whatever that means).
|>
|> I doubt this is a Quadra-specific problem.  I had to get
|> rid of my "venerable" Bernoulli 20 last year (with enough
|> cartridges purchased at ~$90 each to make the whole thing
|> worth more than my whole computer ;).  The tech support guys
|> at Ocean Microsystems suggested that some third-party drivers
|> might fix the problem - in my case the cartridges wouldn't
|> format/mount/partition for A/UX.
hat the Megadrives worked perfectly on both my
Mac Plus and my Powerbook 140.  It was for this reason I assumed
the problem had something to do with the Quadra.  Even with the
Quadra, they mostly worked OK.  The problem occurred when I ejected
a cartridge from a drive: it would start popping up dialog boxes
saying "This cartridge must be formatted with Jasmine Driveware"
even though there was no cartridge in the drive.

	--Mark
t to format) I have this confirmed from Apple Computer in Sweden (I work for a Apple dealer as a service tech). We had problems that Quadras wanted to format a diskette or a Syquest when ther was nothing in the drive. This problem was fixed sytem 7.1

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I don't want to sell this car, but I need money for college.
1972 Chevelle Super Sport
Rebuilt 402, four speed, 12 Bolt positrac
Numbers match
110,000 original miles
no rust
Looks and runs excellent
$5995 or best offer.
Call Dennis at (503)343-3759
or email dennisk@cs.uoregon.edu


To construct a Kirlian device find a copy of _Handbook of Psychic
Discoveries_ by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder 1975 Library of
Congress 73-88532.  It describes the necessary equipment and
 suppliers for the Tesla coil or alternatives, the copper plate and
setup. I used a pack of SX-70 film and removed a single pack in a
dark room, then made the exposure, put it back in the film pack and
ran it out through the rollers of the camera forinstant developing
and very high quality.  It is a good way to experience what Kirlian
Photography is really and what it is not.  As you know all ready,
it is the pattern in the bioplasmic energy fieldthat is significant.
Variations caused by exposure time, distance from the plate, or
pressure on the plate, or variations in the photo materials are not
important.


Done. But did it change the fact that during the period of 1914 to 1920,
the Armenian Government ordered, incited, assisted and participated
in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people because of race, religion
and national origin? By the way, you still haven't corrected yourself.
During World War II Armenians were carried away with the German might and
cringing and fawning over the Nazis. In that zeal, the Armenian publication
in Germany, Hairenik, carried statements as follows:[1]

"Sometimes it is difficult to eradicate these poisonous elements (the Jews)
 when they have struck deep root like a chronic disease, and when it
 becomes necessary for a people (the Nazis) to eradicate them in an uncommon
 method, these attempts are regarded as revolutionary. During the surgical
 operation, the flow of blood is a natural thing."

Now for a brief view of the Armenian genocide of the Muslims and Jews -
extracts from a letter dated December 11, 1983, published in the San
Francisco Chronicle, as an answer to a letter that had been published
in the same journal under the signature of one B. Amarian.

 "...We have first hand information and evidence of Armenian atrocities
  against our people (Jews)...Members of our family witnessed the
  murder of 148 members of our family near Erzurum, Turkey, by Armenian
  neighbors, bent on destroying anything and anybody remotely Jewish
  and/or Muslim. Armenians should look to their own history and see
  the havoc they and their ancestors perpetrated upon their neighbors...
  Armenians were in league with Hitler in the last war, on his premise
  to grant them self government if, in return, the Armenians would
  help exterminate Jews...Armenians were also hearty proponents of
  the anti-Semitic acts in league with the Russian Communists. Mr. Amarian!
  I don't need your bias."

  Signed Elihu Ben Levi, Vacaville, California.

[1] James G. Mandalian, 'Dro, Drastamat Kanayan,' in the 'Armenian
    Review,' a Quarterly by the Hairenik Association, Inc., Summer:
    June 1957, Vol. X, No. 2-38.

Serdar Argic


Have you tried the library?
Since you go to WPI (so do I), go to AK and look on the first floor, a
professor has posted an IEEE (i believe) spec sheet on the 68060 which
is around 10 pages long.  I'm sure the library has the info you request, It's
just a matter of finding it.

Hope this helps,
Bret Chase


Maine 5, LSSU 4.


Victoria Hotel Reserv. 2 nights $40

MID-WEEK (Sun - Thurs) Hotel reservation available for Victoria, Canada.
2 nights/3 days for $40.  Expires June 1, 1993.

This is a LETTER OF CREDIT (fully transferrable) issued by HOTELCO for
a hotel room in any of a number of available hotels in Victoria, Canada.
HOTELCO is a reputable hotel booking company that provides hotel stays at
low prices.  This LETTER OF CREDIT normally works for weekends, too, but
all weekends are booked solid for the summer.

So, check with HOTELCO directly for available dates at one of its member
hotels to use this LETTER OF CREDIT before June 1.  HOTELCO can be reached
at (206)485-5200 in Bothell or 1-800-645-8885 during regular business hours.

Then, if you find an acceptable reservation date, contact me for this
LETTER OF CREDIT.

Roger Bacalzo
rbacalzo@sierra.com
(206)828-9094 (home)
(206)822-5200 x360 (work)


Tom Prince is a 28 year old no-hit catcher.  Think of him as a young Dann
Bilardello.  I can't begin to fathom why the Pirates have been so afraid of
losing this guy, who's been in AAA most of the last 5 seasons.  The Pirates
released Kirk Gibson last year because Prince was out of options, then
eventually sent Prince down anyway, and he cleared waivers without a peep.
He's another year older, and still can't hit; why do they think he wouldn't
clear waivers now?  Why would they care?


Hi Damon,  No matter what system or explanation of creation you wish
to accept, you always have to start with one of two premises, creation
from nothing, or creation from something.  There are no other
alternatives.  And if we accept one or the other of those two
premises, then again there are two alternatives, either creation was
random, or was according to some plan.
   If it was random, I am unable to accept that the complex nature of
our world with interrelated interdependent organisms and creatures
could exist as they do.  Therefore I am left with creation under the
control of an intelligence capable of devising such a scheme.  I call
that intelligence God.
   I also prefer the "Creatio ex nihilo" rather than from chaos, as it
is cleaner.
   There is obviously no way to prove either or neither.  We are and
we must have come from somewhere.  Choose whatever explanation you
feel most comfortable with, Damon.  You are the one who has to live
with your choice.
Shalom,                                  Len Howard


[stuff deleted]

me:
David:

This is a very, very good point.  Who cares what kind of gun you've got if
you're lying on the ground dead.

[more stuff deleted.  mostly mine]
Another very good point that is well taken.  It seems that when lots of lead
is flying (either the cops or the gangs) someone innocent always gets caught
in the crossfire.

All points made above are well taken.  I guess I am in the mindset of
"having more makes it better" which is obviously not the correct mindset
to take in this discussion.  Now that I think about the situation a
little more carefully I see your point exactly David and I
wholeheartedly (sp?) agree.  Like I said I'm just assuming that "more
bullets and/or bigger bullets is better".  Once again though I want to
state that I am a pro-gun individual and do NOT believe that gun control
is really a viable option here in the United States regardless of the drivel
that I spout here :-)


While I agree with most of Jon says (I deleted those parts, of course), I
have serious reservations about this advice.  Maintaining a `just
friends' level of relationship is much easier said than done.  People
usually end up getting hurt.  This is especially likely to happen when
they start off with feelings of attraction.

When people feel attracted those feelings can cloud their judgement.
I've had the experience of going quickly from believing that I shouldn't
date non-Christians to believing that dating this man would be okay to
believing that premarital sex is fine when people really love each
other.  When the relationship ended my beliefs immediately returned to
their original state.

This is an especially extreme case because I was young and away from home
and fellowship.  I don't think it would work exactly this way for most
people.  However, it's important not to underestimate the power of
feelings of attraction.


I quit windows normally to run a special DOS app, got done with it
and tried to start windows.  Ok got the title screen, Windows
background, DOS with an error about loading PROGMAN.EXE.  Hum, yep
PROGMAN.EXE is still there.  Must be bad, ok pull off PROGMAN.EXE
from a backup tape, start windows, get the windows title screen,
windows background, DOS with the same error.  HUM!  Fire up the
good ol' Norton Disk Doctor, test, 500 lost clusters!  Ok, fix them,
and look through them, doesn't look important.  Remove the Windows
directory, and reinstall from disks.  Fire up windows, title screen,
background, Program Manager, Success!

I have a 486/50 (Amy) with 4 meg of RAM, 120 meg HD, SVGA, running under
DOS 5.0, no special memory managers or stuff, just the basic Windows 3.1
A 12 meg permanent swap file using 32-bit Access.  I mainly use Windows
to run more that one DOS app at a time.  (ie downloading with Qmodem
with a DOS window open, and possibly POV running in the background.)

I've noticed that since I started using Windows a few months ago, lost
clusters have gotten more and more common.  Although I don't like
having data just disappear, it really haven't been a problem except
for today.  Has anyone else had any problems with lost clusters while
running windows?  And what could I do to fix the problem, I'd sleep
better knowing Amy wasn't loosing her marbles. :)

Steven


From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Hebrew labor: racist connotations

AVODA IVRIT - HEBREW LABOR
---------------------------------

"Hebrew labor" is a concept which has served the Zionist movement
for a long time.  It has a double-barreled message: 1) The new Jew
must learn to do physical labor, i.e. working the land; 2) The
land in this country must pass into Jewish hands, i.e. to the same
new Jew who has "learned" to work it. Both aspects of the
two-pronged concept of "Hebrew labor" have racist connotations. On
the one hand, the diaspora Jew's lack of training in physical
labor is a myth shared by Zionists and antisemites.  On the other
hand, its meaning in practice has been the displacement of the
Arab farmer from the source of his livelihood.

The occupation and the cheap Palestinian labor which streamed from
the occupied territories to the factories, orchards, and
hot-houses of Israel relegated the myth of "Hebrew labor" to the
history books and nostalgic memories of the Zionist Movement. It
has blossomed forth anew, however, as the government's answer to
problems caused by the closure of the territories. Today too this
concept has two functions: 1) to give a progressive look to the
closing of the Palestinian population.  Or in the words of
Environment Minister Yossi Sarid, "I have no tears for those who
get rich off of cheap labor". 2) to furnish an answer to the
unemployed Israeli who complains of being obliged to work for
wages that are lower than the unemployment insurance he receives.


  > Hey guys!
  > I work on many stations and would like this name and current logname
  > to be in a title of Xterm when it's open and a machine name only
  > when it's closed. In other words, I want $HOST and $LOGNAME to appear
  > as a title of opened XTerm and $HOST when XTerm is closed.
  > How can I do it?

[Apologies if I'm answering something already answered in the FAQ.
Our news feed has been losing a lot of articles lately - so I haven't
seen the FAQ lately to check.]

Two ways:

 1) When you start the xterm, you can use command line options:
         -n ICON_NAME           To set the icon label
         -T WINDOW_TITLE        To set the window title
         -title WINDOW_TITLE    Equivalent to -T WINDOW_TITLE

 2) You can use escape sequences to change things on the fly:

    The basic escape sequence is:
	ESC ] <P> ; <SOME_ARBITARY_TEXT> BEL

    where ESC and BEL are the ASCII ESCAPE and BELL characters,
    <P> is an ASCII decimal digit -- '2', '1', or '0', depending
    on whether you are trying to set the window or icon title,
    or both, and <SOME_ARBITARY_TEXT> is your desired label string.

    Hence, this command will set the window & icon title:
         echo "\033]0;YOUR_TITLE_GOES_HERE\007\c"

    To set just the icon title:
         echo "\033]1;YOUR_TITLE_GOES_HERE\007\c"

    To set just the window title:
         echo "\033]2;YOUR_TITLE_GOES_HERE\007\c"

    Of course, you may have to fiddle with exact syntax,
    depending on how the echo command works on your system
    and what shell you are using (I've shown System-V semantics
    under Bourne or Korn shells).

    [Hint for Sun OS users:  use /usr/5bin/echo instead of
    /bin/echo or Csh's built-in echo.  Otherwise you'll have
    to embed literal ESC and BEL characters in the string
    instead of using convenient octal sequences.]

    If you want your titlebar updated continously, say to show
    your current directory, hostname, or somesuch, then you'll
    have to see if you can coerce your shell into spitting out
    the appropriate escape sequences when it prompts for commands.
    Sometimes you can just put the appropriate escape sequence
    in the prompt string itself, sometimes not ...


//I'm using BC++'s ObjectWindows (version 3.1) and trying to get some data
//processed in a window object. However, when the calling program invokes
//the window object, it gives up the control to the window object, and keeps
//executing the next statement. I would like the calling program, after
//invoking the window object, to wait until the window object is closed.
//Can I do that? My program may look like:

class MyWindow : public TWindow
{
	...
};

void MyCallingProg(...)  // Could the calling program be a C function?
{	...
	MyWindow *MyWinObj;
	MyWinObj = new MyWindow(...);
	GetApplication()->MakeWindow(MyWinObj);
	MyWinObj->Show(SW_SHOWNORMAL);


What do you mean? Are you saying they thought the effort was
profitable or that the money was efficiently spent (providing max
value per money spent)?

I think they would answer yes on ballance to both questions. Exceptions
would be places like the US from the French Indian War to the end of
the US Revolution.

But even after the colonies revolted or where given independance the
British engaged in very lucrative trading with the former colonies.
Five years after the American Revolution England was still the largest
US trading partner.

  Allen


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From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Desertification of the Negev

The desertification of the arid Negev
------------------------------------- by Moise Saltiel, I&P March
1990

I.      The Negev Bedouin Before and After 1948 II.     Jewish
Agricultural Settlement in the Negev III.   Development of the
Negev's Rural Population IV.    Economic Situation of Jewish
Settlements in 1990 V.     Failure in Settling the Arava Valley
VI.   Failure in Settling the Central Mountains VII.  Failure in
Making the Negev "Bedouinenrein" (Cleansing the Negev of Bedouins)
VIII. Transforming Bedouin into Low-Paid Workers IX..    Failure
in Settling the "Development Towns" X.      Jordan Water to the
Negev: A Strategic Asset XI.     The Negev Becomes a Dumping
Ground XII.   The Dimona Nuclear Plant XIII.  The Negev as a
Military Base XIV.  The Negev in the Year 2000

Just after the creation of the State of Israel, the phrase "the
Jewish pioneers will make the desert bloom" was trumpeted
throughout the Western world. After the Six Day War in 1967, David
Ben-Gurion declared in a letter to Charles de Gaulle: "It's by our
pioneering creation that we have transformed a poor and arid land
into a fertile land, created built-up areas, towns and villages in
abandoned desert areas".

Contrary to Ben-Gurion's assertion, it must be affirmed that
during the 26 years of the British mandate over Palestine and for
centuries previous, a productive human presence was to be found in
all parts of the Negev desert - in the very arid hills and valleys
of the southern Negev as well as in the more fertile north. These
were the Bedouin Arabs.

The real desertification of the Negev, mainly in the southern
part, occurred after Israel's dispossession of the Bedouin's
cultivated lands and pastures. Nowadays, the majority of the
12,800 square-kilometer Negev, which represents 62 percent of the
State of Israel (pre-1967 borders), has been desertified beyond
recognition. The main new occupiers of the formerly Bedouin Negev
are the Israeli army; the Nature Reserves Authority, whose chief
role is to prevent Bedouin from roaming their former pasture
lands; and vast industrial zones, including nuclear reactors and
dumping grounds for chemical, nuclear and other wastes. Israeli
Jews in the Negev today cultivate less than half the surface area
cultivated by the Bedouin before 1948, and there is no Jewish
pastoral activity.

I. Agricultural and pastoral activities of the Negev Bedouin
before and after 1948
-------------------------------------------------- In 1942,
according to British mandatory statistics, the Beersheba
sub-district (which corresponds more or less to Israel's Negev, or
Southern, district) had 52,000 inhabitants, almost all Bedouin
Arabs, who held 11,500 camels, 6,000 cows and oxen, 42,000 sheep
and 22,000 goats.

The majority of the Bedouin lived a more or less sedentary life in
the north, where precipitation ranged between 200 and 350 mm per
year. In 1944 they cultivated about 200,000 hectares of the
Beersheba district - i.e. 16 percent of its total area and *more
than double the area cultivated by the Negev's Jewish settlers
after 40 years of "making the desert bloom"*

The Bedouin had a very low crop yield - 350 to 400 kilograms of
barley per hectare during rainy years - and their farming
techniques were primitive, but production was based solely on
animal and human labor. It must also be underscored that animal
production, although low, was based entirely on pasturing.
Production increased considerably during the rainy years and
diminished significantly during drought years. All Bedouin pasture
animals - goats, camels and sheep - had the ability to gain weight
quickly over the relatively rainy winters and to withstand many
waterless days during the hot summers. These animals were the
result of a centuries-old process of natural selection in harsh
local conditions.

After the creation of the State of Israel, 80 percent of the Negev
Bedouin were expelled to the Sinai or to Southern Jordan. The
10,000 who were allowed to remain were confined to a territory of
40,000 hectares in a region were annual mean precipiation was 150
mm - a quantity low enough to ensure a crop failure two years out
of three. The rare water wells in the south and central Negev,
spring of life in the desert, were cemented to prevent Bedouin
shepherds from roaming.

A few Bedouin shepherds were allowed to stay in the central Negev.
But after 1982, when the Sinai was returned to Egypt, these
Bedouin were also eliminated. At the same time, strong pressure
was applied on the Bedouin to abandon cultivation of their fields
in order that the land could be transferred to the army.

No reliable statistics exist concerning the amount of land held
today by Negev Bedouin. It is a known fact that a large part of
the 40,000 hectares they cultivated in the 1950s has been seized
by the Israeli authorities. Indeed, most of the Bedouin are now
confined to seven "development towns", or *sowetos*, established
for them.


Well, there are two approaches we can take here.  One is to ask you what this
objective morality is, assuming it's not a secret.

The other is to ask you what you think is wrong with relativism, so that we
can correct your misconceptions :-)


:
:
: Shadow mask is when you put your face into
: main memory.
:


I just got an IBM-PC XT with no documents. Its a true
IBM, and I was wondering if anyone had the definitions
of the 2 8 position dip switches?


I'd hardly call that "giving up his chance to be Vice President of the US";
the chance of the Populist Party ticket winning is essentially nil.  Still,
it does imply that he doesn't want to be associated with Duke.


Does any one know of any shareware/freeware software which lets one display
EPS files on a PC with DOS and/or Windows???
Your reply would be much appreciated.   Thanks.
Hal Adam, HADAM@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca


It seems likely to me that that a large subset of encrypted communications
would be archived to tape so they could be read if sometime in the future
probable cause arises and a warrant is obtained.  I can even imagine this
being found legal and constitutional, since nothing is actually listened to
until a valid warrant is issued and the keys are obtained.

Imagine archiving all pay-phone conversations, so if someone turns out
to be a drug dealer, you can listen to all their past drug deals.  And
archive calls to/from suspected Mafia members, potential terrorists,
radicals, etc.  Imagine the convenience for the police of being able to
get a warrant now and listening to all the calls the World Trade Center
bombers made in the past year.

Since archiving would be such a powerful tool and so easy to do, why
wouldn't it happen?


frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes ...

To the degree that relativism is a more accurate decription of the
truth than is objectivism, it provides more power and ability to
control events.

Assuming, for the moment, that morals _are_ relative, then two
relativists can recognize that neither has a lock on the absolute
truth and they can proceed to negotiate a workable compromise that
produces the desired results.

Assuming that there is an absolute morality, two disagreeing
objectivists can either be both wrong or just one of them right; there
is no room for compromise.  Once you beleive in absolute morals,
you must accept that you are amoral or that everyone who disagrees
with you is amoral.

Given a choice between a peaceful compromise or endless contention,
I'd say that compromise seems to be "better".


I'm not 100% sure, but I think the T800 was a 25MHz transputer?  so ya tie
a gazillion of them together to get 100mips.  (The newest is the T9000
which kicks anyone's butt :)... haven't seen them used much though).

Anyway, to respond, I think the Pentium (CISC) is better than the more advanced
RISC (e.g., like the alpha, etc.  the 66MHz Pentium has approximately the
same "performance" as the superduper 133MHz Alpha - here, performance is the
weird Specint92 that everyone refers to? - this is what I *heard* - the
Alpha still kicks in the P5's butt in fp - again, this is what I *heard*).
and in the computing world, if you sell lots of chips (like intel), and
make it faster (like intel), you are the winner (like intel), even though
you have a sucky architecture from over 10 years ago (like intel :0).

If you can make a "CISC" chip (superscalar, superduperpipelined, superfast)
with the ideas behind the "RISC" ideology, you got a CISC chip.  And then
I admit I can't see the advantages of RISC over CISC...

If the latest technology is a generation behind, then it sucks (relatively
speaking).

Now I may sound like I like intel, but I'll have to say that the P5 is some
real kick butt pile of Si and SiO2...

But I hope that Motorola really catches up with the 68K line... or I'm gonna
start crying...

brian

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian "Hojo" Lee       | "Hey, excuse me miss, could I have a .GIF of you?"
leebr@ecf.toronto.edu  |
leebr@eecg.toronto.edu | (try Linux... the best and free UN*X clone!)


	Actually, this started as a great idea.  Before steering-column
locks became popular, Saab installed a *gearshift* lock -- put the car
in reverse, remove the key, and the car *stays* in reverse!
	Also, suppose you get into your car, and a thug comes up and
demands your keys at gunpoint.  You hand them over, he gets in, and
HAS NO IDEA WHERE TO PUT THE KEY!  At this, he will run away (or perhaps
shoot you anyway  %-}).  I heard this actually happened somewhere...
	Btw, I hear that the Saab 900's new successor will have the
ignition on the console, between the seats, where it belongs.


Misinterpretation, though it should be a crime in itself, is what
United States lawyers use to make their bread and butter.

  In Manchester, CT a few years ago, a small company wanted to run a
game system galled "LaserGames," similar in many aspects to Photon
(tm). Three lawyers and about a hundred citizens found an ancient law
in Manchester's books which clearly from context was designed to
prohibit travelling carnivals by enumerating the features of a carnival
which they felt at the time made the prohibition obvious. Among these
things was "shooting galleries," which is what the lawyers for the
opposition to LaserGames wanted to harp upon. The judge took the two
words from this law, completely out of context, and ruled that
LaserGames could not operate in Manchester.

  Keep in mind that most travelling carnivals use projectile weapons in
their shooting galleries, and not light beams. Clearly from context,
LaserGames got shafted, but if the two words are applied, their denial
of operating permission was justified.

  If I had the text of the law I'd post it, but I'm afraid I don't
remember it all well enough to even try. That little bit with the two
words stuck well, though.


I've had, and still have a few aluminum sticks.  I got my first when I was 15
(a Christian), and broke the shaft halfway through the season, two years
later.  I bought another (a Canadian) at the beginning of the next season,
and I still have it.  I also have an Easton, that a friend was getting rid
off, after giving up the game.  I find that Easton blades are easier to get,
but all brands of blades are pretty well interchangeable.  Watch out for
dried up bits of firewood, that some stores pass off as blades.  In my
experiences, the blades of an aluminum break more often than regular sticks,
but I've only ever broken one aluminum shaft.

I like aluminum sticks.  The blades are quickly changed, even on the bench
if you have to.  On the downside, the shaft won't break if you decide to
impale yourself on it :-)

Ciao,
Mark S.


Some thoughts:

Has any work been done on encapsulating encrypted data inside "non-encrypted"
data files?  Many file formats can be written with "gaps" in them to hide
other data.  New file formats could be designed to have alternate data hidden
by dispersing it amongst the "legitimate" data.  The hidden data would only
show up with the right key(s), and a file with hidden data would be
indistinguishable from one without.  So, only the correct key(s) would reveal
the presence of an "illegal" document.

If I devise a custom file compression algorithm and only I and a friend have
the uncompressor, and otherwise the file appears to be total gigerish, do I
have the right to transmit the file?  Will we have to "escrow" all our data
file formats?  Are gangs required to escrow their hand signals, colors and
catch phrases?


I don't know which passage you are refering to, but the passage I have
often seen cited as an example of a mother image of God is Isaiah 49:15
"Can a woman forget her sucking child / that she should have no
compassion / on the son of her womb? / Even these may forget, /
yet I will not forget you."

This passage is *not* a mother image of God at all. The mother here
is the image of the best human constancy can show, and it is
contrasted with the constancy of God. The mother figure here represents
mankind, not God.
--
==============================================================================
Mark Baker                  | "The task ... is not to cut down jungles, but
aa888@Freenet.carleton.ca   | to irrigate deserts." -- C. S. Lewis
==============================================================================

[Luke 13:34   O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those
who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together
as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!


of
Why


I'd like to converse with anyone who has purchased a 1993 Honda
Civic about their experience.  I'm new to the car buying game
and would like to know what price I can expect to pay for a sedan
after bargaining.

Thanks in advance,


	Wrong.  Zionism *acknowledges* the fact that anti-Semites
exist, and prevent Jews from living in peace.  That does not mean we
agree that Jews are all greedy, that Jews kill Christian Children,
commited deicide, or anything else.  We acknowledge that there are
morons out there who do believe these things.

Adam

Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu


I'll take a wild guess and say Freedom is objectively valuable.  I base
this on the assumption that if everyone in the world were deprived utterly
of their freedom (so that their every act was contrary to their volition),
almost all would want to complain.  Therefore I take it that to assert or
believe that "Freedom is not very valuable", when almost everyone can see
that it is, is every bit as absurd as to assert "it is not raining" on
a rainy day.  I take this to be a candidate for an objective value, and it
it is a necessary condition for objective morality that objective values
such as this exist.


Seth> I fail to see any advantage whatsoever with this kind of
set-up.
 Seth> What a DUMB idea.

So don't buy one.

Kristen

 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.


Roger Maynard shares his views, with the masses, on Bob Gainey
and life in general:

It was Bryan Trottier, not Denis Potvin.  It was a vicious
'boarding' from behind...Trottier was given a major.

But Roger, what the hell does this have to do with Gainey's skill
as a hockey player?  If Probert smashes Gilmour's head into the
boards next week, will that diminish your assessment of Gilmour's
skills?

I would take Fuhr and Sanderson off of the latter.

I think Gainey would be honoured to know that you've included him
on this list.  I also think you have a relatively naive view
about what wins a hockey game...pluggers are an integral part of
any team.  The Selke is designed to acknowledge their
contribution...I think that most people understand that it's not
the Nobel Prize...so settle down.

congenially, as always,

jd

--
James David
david@student.business.uwo.ca


Jim Brown wrote :

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[ deleted ]

  Unfortunately, it's not that simple.  The KJV is preferred by the majority
of fundamentalists (at least here).  The second part of your argument fails
as well, since that statement can be used against any version (not just the
KJV).

[ deleted ]
[ deleted ]

  I would not find this statement to be very useful since it is an appeal
to authority and the opposition will just claim that their authorities are
"better".  A second tact that local creationists have used is to reply "but
those scholars are atheists and cannot be believed" (they will also use this
phrase to describe any theologians that they don't agree with).

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Ah yes, I see a few liberal weenies have come out of the woodwork
to defend the burning of the children. Probably drooled all over themselves
while watching the TV coverage.

Probably had a few like that in Nazi Germany, as well.


I understand and sympathize with your pain.  What happened in Waco was a very
sad tradgedy.  Don't take it out on us Christians though.  The Branch
Davidians were not an organized religion.  They were a cult led by a ego-maniac
cult leader.  The Christian faith stands only on the shoulders of one man,
the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, Jesus Christ.   BTW, David Koresh was NOT
Jesus Christ as he claimed.

God be with you,

Malcolm Lee  :)


UPI Washington DC, Update Desk			4/15/93

  For the past several months the Clinton administration has been
  stymied by mixed signals coming from the economy.  While most
  leading indicators has shown an apparent improvement in the
  economy, there has been no corresponding improvement in the area
  of jobs creation.

  The unemployment figures seem stalled at the 7% mark.  last month,
  in an effort to understand this problem, President Clinton appointed
  a blue ribbon panel to try to resolve the apparent conflicting
  economic signals.  This panel was chaired by Vice President Gore.

  Today the panel released their results, providing a shocking conclusion.
  "It's the guns" Vice President Gore said.  Apparently NRA members, and other
  "gun-nuts" are purchasing firearms at in record numbers, pulling the
  economy out of the recession.  "Their buying them five times faster than
  ever before, and stockpiling left and right", the Vice President said.

  However, since many domestic firearm and ammunition manufacturers have
  been experiencing hard times during the past few years, including several
  declarations of bankruptcy by many leading American gun makers, they have
  not rushed to increase hiring to meet the new demand.

  "We want to see if this run will continue before hiring more people", said
  the President of Colt industries.  "As long as Clinton is in office, we
  suspect it will", he added.

  In response to this new information, President Clinton announced a new
  Gun Control measure to be introduced into Congress this session.  It's
  called the "Ban-One-A-Month" Gun Control Bill.  Under the terms of this law,
  every make and model of all firearms will be written on individual index
  cards.  The cards will all be put in a big hat and the President will draw
  one card every month.  Sixty days later that gun will be banned from any
  further manufacture/importation or sale in this country, except to the
  politically connected and to members of the National Police Force.

  The President said, "This law will benefit America two ways.  When the
  Gun-Of-The-Month is announced every thirty days, the gun-nuts will run
  out and buy thousands of them, boosting the economy even more.  In addition,
  over the long run, we will get all of these icky-evil guns off of the
  street."  He also announce the appointment of Sarah Brady to oversee
  this program, citing her "Honesty, and unbiased view on the subject
  of gun control".

  Senators Metzenbaum, DeConcini, Feinstein, and Boxer have proposed an
  amendment to the Bill which would add additional index cards containing
  caliber designations for all know ammunitions.  "Their stockpiling,
  stockpiling, stockpiling" screamed Metzenbaum during a press conference
  at the national Headquarters of Handgun Control Inc.

  Senators Simon, Metzenbaum, and Moyenhan also introduced an amendment
  that would make all guns illegal to possess once the last card has been
  drawn from the hat.  Senator Simon was quoted as saying, "First we'll
  fuck em, then we'll kick em out of bed in the morning", during a press
  conference he held in the second floor Mens Restroom of the Senate
  building.  He of course was referring to the fact that he would allow
  the people to purchase the guns to help the economy, but would require
  the BATF to seize all of the guns in America sometime in the year 2008,
  after all of the cards have been drawn.

  The head of the BATF responded by saying, "We will have to see if this
  thing in Waco is over by then.  We may be too busy to seize all those
  guns".

  US House Representatives Pat Schroeder and David Skaggs of Colorado
  declared this proposed law as being "reasonable gun control which won't
  affect anybodys Constitutional right to own sporting guns".

  - end article -

  For the humor impaired :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

                                Bill Vojak
                                vojak@icebucket.stortek.com
				NRA, ILA,
                                Colorado Firearms Coalition
------------------------------------------------------------
The CBS Nightly Propaganda With Dan Rather. (RATHER NOT!)
The CBS Nightly Propaganda With Dan Rather. (RATHER BIASED!)


You realize, of course, that inevitably some anal retentive moron is
going to come along and wag his fingers and his jowls in outrage that
personal politics are more important than [SMCAP][BOLD][Font:God
999pt.]The Law[smcap][bold][font].

But that's irrelevant to the problem here.  Windows came with my
system, but on 5.25" disks.  I hate using 5.25" disks, so I copied
them over to high density 3.5"'s using xcopy.  It worked fine.  In
fact, for a while I was changing configurations and whatnot so much
that I decided to try putting them on the hard disk.  Not only can you
copy them over with one disk per directory, but if you want to, you
can simply copy them all into one directory.  Makes it a lot nicer
when you're switching printer emulations around.

Norton 6.0 I don't have much experience with, but when a friend's
system crashed, we restored from a backup rather than from the
originals, and it worked fine.  This would imply that arj a -r norton
c:\nu would create a workable backup, and if you did a full install
the first time, you've got the whole thing.

Never played with WP for Windows; I'm not too big of a fan of anything
from Utah.

Good luck....

Disclaimer: Don't Copy That Floppy! (tm) Just Say No! (r) Respect Your Elders!
For The Wages Of Sin Is (sic) Death And A Hefty Legal Bill!  DO YOU OFFEND?

Rob


	Take a second look at "non-toxic, non-flammable":

		MACE (sold tothe public) is supposedly nontoxic.
		Whatthey do not tell you is that if you get mace directly
		on the linings of the lungs (such as a direct snort to
		the face) above certain quantities, it reacts similarly
		to a mustard gas inhalation.

			I know:  my father and grandfather were exposed
			to poison gas in WWI and WWII; Dad went through
			the side effects of any WEAPON, including those
			"non-toxic" aerosols.

		WHat the label ACTUALLY means is ::

			usually, it wont kill you
			it may give you permanent CSS asthsma
			but that's better than blowing a hole in your
				head ...

		ALL aerosols are flammable IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH OXYGEN
		AND HIT IT WITH THE RIGHT IGNITER.  SOme of the most
		non-flammable substances known will BOOM or SEARFLAME
		if you hit it with the right combo.

		Let's take one:  a trash can fire.  Makes black smoke;
		already burned right?  Can't go boom, right?  Wrong.

		Suck that smoke (made up of paper that has carbonized,
		or burned about 35% of the fuel in it) into an air
		conditioning return, mix with about 5:1 air, and light
		a match.  200 feet of conduit is about the same, when
		filled with that smoke mixture, as oh, say 200 pounds TNT

			THAT is why the fire codes say NO OPEN CEILING
			TILES IN BUILDINGS.  Because 3-5 stories of
			a building have blown OUT by "nonflammable _smoke_"

	So:
		Take a little "nonflammable aerosol"
		Mix with gasoline or kerosene fumes

			NO electricity, remeber?  A bit of heating
			on the WACO plains?  Boil water to drink
			since the water was cut off?

		liberally mix and allow to settle for 1-4 hours

		Fumes vent down into the bus underground, and the Davidians
		move the children UPSTAIRS to a saferoom (they had one,
		armor plated, remember?) to BREATH, because kids get sick
		and die from tear gas.

		and along comes a tracer, a spark, what have you:

			everyone burns to death.

Try thinking before opening mouth: it may not have happened the
way the Gmen say it did.


Maybe in the 60's, but not now.  Steel is a dead industry in Pgh.

No, a giveaway night in the 90's for Pgh would be "Baboon Liver Night"
sponored by The Pittsburgh Zoo...


Insofar as several "liberal" jurisdictions are concerned, the essential
elements of rape are gender neutral. Nonetheless, I decided to provide
a number of references to support my original argument. Black's Law
Dictionary (every law student/lawyer's friend) defines rape as: Unlawful
sexual intercourse with a female without her consent. The unlawful
knowledge of a woman by a man forcibly and against her will. The Model
Penal Code (the statute proposed by the National Conference of Commissioners
of Uniform State Laws or other organization for adoption by state legislatures)
defines rape as: A male who has sexual intercourse with a female not his wife
is guilty of rape if he (a) compels her to submit by force or by threat of
imminent death.... (MPC @213.1(1)(a))

Indeed the following jurisdictions/states have statutes similar to the MPC:

Alabama-- Code of Ala. @13A-6-61 (1992)
Arkansas--Ark.Stat.Ann. @5-14-103 (1993)
District of Columbia--D.C. Code @22-2801 (1992)
Georgia--O.F.G.A. @16-6-1 (1992)
Idaho--Idaho Code @18-6101 (1992)
Maryland--Md.Ann.Code.Art. 27 @462 (1992)
Mississippi--Miss.Code Ann. @97-3-71 (1993)
New York (check case law)--N.Y.C.L.S. Penal @130.35 (1993)
North Carolina--N.C. Gen.Stat. @14-27-2 (1992)
Puerto Rico--L.P.R.A. @4062 (1993)

Ta,


Hello,


Dear netters,

I have noticed something rather weared (I think) about creating a dialog shell
widget while running HP Vue's vuewm.

For some reason, every time I create a dialog shell the foreground and backgroun
d colors are different compared to my toplevel shell.
I am not doing anything special/different.

Does any body know anything about this problem?? How to fix it without hardcodin
g the colors ?

Please respond to kamlesh@salzo.cary.nc.usa ....


I moved to Sweden and I have to take all the tests again (written and
road) even though I had a valid US license for 12 some years...
Of course I became a resident, and could drive on my US license until
I became resident.  Don't know about Italy, it's different in the EEC.


I wanted to know if any of you out there can recommend a good
book about graphics, still and animated, and in VGA/SVGA.

Thanks in advance


Hi,
has anyone more info about the XGA-2 chipset?
HW-funcs, TrueColor, Resolutions,...
Any boards with XGA-2 out yet?

thanks
Rainer

--
Rainer Leberle	                           rleberle@sparc2.cstp.umkc.edu
University of Kansas City, MO


This is the file BIGNUMS.TXT from ripem.msu.edu, last updated April 1993.

In response to Email requests, I have assembled this list of
large-integer arithmetic packages of which I have heard.
Most of these are C function libraries, available in source form.

For your convenience, I have placed copies of
some of these on ripem.msu.edu (35.8.1.178).  They are
available for anonymous FTP in the directory "pub/bignum".
However, what I have may not be the most current version in all cases.

Here they are, in no particular order:

mp
    Multiple Precision package that comes with some Unixes

    Multiple precision package accessed via -lmp flag on your
    compiler.  Provides +, -, *, /, gcd, exponentiation,
    sqrt.  Comes with SunOS, NeXT Mach, BBN Mach 1000,
    and probably a few others.  See "man mp".
    Object code only, of course.

PARI
    Henri Cohen, et al., Universite Bordeaux I, Paris, FRANCE

    Multiple precision desk calculator and library routines.
    Contains optimized assembly code for Motorola 68020,
    semi-optimized code for SPARC, and apparently rather slow
    generic C version.  Does both integers and reals.
    Does vectors and matrices as well as scalars.
    Contains a number of advanced functions, some of which I've
    never heard of.  ("Weber's function"?)
    Has a factorization function, primality test, & other related stuff.
    Plenty of TEX documentation.
    Public domain, but you can't distribute modified versions.
    Available via anonymous FTP from math.ucla.edu.  There seem to
    be Mac- and NeXT-specific versions there in addition to:
    Filename:  pari-1.35a.tar.Z

Arithmetic in Global Fields  (Arith)
    Kevin R. Coombes, David R. Grant

    Package of routines for arbitrary precision integers or
    polynomials over finite fields.  Includes basic +, -, *, /
    and a few others like gcd.  Source code in C.
    Distributed under the terms of the GNU public license.
    Includes man pages and TEX documentation.
    Filename:  arith.tar.Z

Arbitrary Precision Math Library
    Lloyd Zusman   Los Gatos, CA

    C package which supports basic +, -, *, /.  Provides for radix
    points (i.e., non-integers).  Not as polished as the others here.
    Posted to comp.sources.misc in October 1988.
    Filename:  apml.tar.Z

BigNum
    J. Vuillemin, INRIA, FRANCE, and others.
    Distributed by Digital Equipment Paris Research Lab (DECPRL)

    A "portable and efficient arbitrary-precision integer" package.
    C code, with generic C "kernel", plus assembly "kernels" for
    MC680x0, Intel i960, MIPS, NS32032, Pyramid, and of course VAX.
    This is probably one of the better-known packages of this type.
    Implements +, -, *, /, mod, plus logical operations OR, AND, XOR.
    Both signed and unsigned arithmetic available.
    Available via email from librarian@decprl.dec.com.
    You will receive 5 shell archives.  Give your postal address
    and you will also receive printed documentation from France.
    Package includes TEX documentation.
    Publicly available for non-commercial use.
    I removed this from my archive when I heard a rumor that PRL
    doesn't like others to distribute it.  However, BIGNUM *is*
    distributed as part of ecpp (see below).

Lenstra's package
    Arjen Lenstra   Bellcore

    Portable unsigned integer package written entirely in C.
    Includes +, -, *, /, exponentiation, mod, primality testing,
    sqrt, random number generator, and a few others.  The package
    was uncommented and undocumented; I have tried to add enough
    comments to get by.  This is the only of these packages that I
    have actually used.  It works well and is very portable.
    I haven't done any benchmarks against the others, but the code
    looks clever & Lenstra is an accomplished number theorist.
    Unlike the other packages here, this one requires you to allocate
    storage statically--only a problem if your numbers are really huge.
    Arjen has placed the code in the public domain.
    Filename:  lenstra.tar.Z

lenstra_3.1
    Arjen Lenstra,  Bellcore

    An improved version of Arjen's package above.  This one
    does signed arithmetic and dynamic allocation (which can be turned
    off as an option). Has a few new routines, too.  "lenstra_3.1" contains
    minor bugfixes to the previously-available "lenstra_2" and "lenstra_3".
    Filename:  lenstra_3.1.c

bmp  (Brent's Multiple Precision?)
    R. P. Brent

    1981 vintage FORTRAN code to do extended precision floating &
    fixed point arithmetic.  Includes most of the mathematical
    functions you'd find in a FORTRAN run-time library.
    This code is an ACM algorithm, number 524.
    To obtain, send a mail message to  netlib@ornl.gov
    containing the line "send mp.f from bmp" or better yet, perhaps
    just start with "help".

SPX
    Kannan Alagappan & Joseph Tardo, DEC

    This is a huge prototype public key authentication system
    based on RSA.  I mention it here because those who have heard
    of SPX have probably correctly guessed that it contains a large
    integer package and I want to inform you that the large integer
    package it contains is indeed DEC's BigNum from France.
    You can get a beta test copy of SPX from crl.dec.com (192.58.206.2).
    Use it only for testing, as it "may" expire on a certain date.
    (I don't know whether this has expired yet.)

amp  (Antti's Multiple Precision?)
    Antti Louko   alo@kampi.hut.fi

    Multiple precision integer package in C.  Includes +, -, *, /, %,
    pow, mod, 1/x mod y, random, sqrt, gcd.  Available for non-commercial
    use.  The package includes "share-secret", a public key system based
    on the Diffie-Hellman algorithm.
    This is normally part of the well-known "des-dist.tar.Z",
    but I have removed the DES part to avoid having to deal with
    cryptographic export laws, and have named the result:
    Filename:  amp.tar.Z

gennum
    Per Bothner   U of Wisconsin-Madison

    C++ routines and classes to do generic arithmetic, both
    integer and rational.
    Formerly available on sevenlayer.cs.wis.edu.  However, it
    seems to have disappeared.  Sorry.

MIRACL
    (By someone in Dublin, Ireland)

    Integer and fractional multiple precision package.
    Includes factorization, primality testing, encryption.
    Not public domain, apparently.  It is available from the Austin
    Code Works.  (See ads in Byte Magazine or Dr. Dobbs.)

precision
    Dave Barrett  barrettd@tigger.colorado.edu

    Multiple precision integer package in C with +,-,*,/, sqrt, rand,
    mod, pow, log.  Simple vector support.  Does dynamic allocation of memory.
    Free as long as you don't sell it or any program that uses it.
    Filename:  precision.tar.Z

UBASIC
    Prof. Yuji Kida, Rikkyo University, Nishi-Ikebukuro 3, Tokyo 171, Japan
    kida@rkmath.rikkyo.ac.jp

    Multiple-precision version of the BASIC programming language,
    for MS-DOS.  Includes floating point.  Said (by Keith Briggs)
    to be pretty fast.  Object only, I think.  ervin@morekypr.bitnet
    fast arithmetic.  Has a version optimized for 386 machines.  Includes
    routines to do MPQS, the fastest currently known general factoring
    algorithm.  An additional file is at both sites to allow MPQS to use
    hard drives so that it can factor up to 80 digits.  Many number
    theoretical functions are included in UBASIC.  It allows over 2500
    digits of precision."
    Available via anonymous FTP from shape.mps.ohio-state.edu,
    or simtel20.army.mil, or wuarchive.wustl.edu.

calc_v22
    Unknown

    MS-DOS C-like language that allows "infinite" precision.
    Nice intrinsic functions.  ervin@morekypr.bitnet reports problems
    when changing precision on the fly.
    See simtel20 or wuarchive.

briggs_arith
    Keith Briggs (kbriggs@mundoe.maths.mu.oz.au)

    Turbo Pascal 5 source for routines that do multiple-precision
    +, -, *, /, sqrt, gcd, factoring, rand for integers; also includes
    +, -, *, / and rand for rational numbers.
    Filename:  briggs_arith.pas

Institute fur Experimentelle Mathematik
    Dr Gerhard Schneider (?)

    Fast C multiple-precision subroutine library.
    I don't know anything about it; sl25@ely.cl.cam.ac.uk says
    to contact MAT420@DE0HRZ1A.BITNET for more info.
    Postal Address:
    Institute fur Experimentelle Mathematik
    EllernStr 29
    D4300 Essen-12    GERMANY

LongInt
    Markus Mueller (mueller@komsys.tik.ethz.ch)

    "Multi precision arithmetic written in MODULA-2, with the most time critical
    parts written in Assembler. Includes basic arithmetics (+, -, *, /, %) as
    well as arithmetics MODULO a number. An additional module provides a
    collection of procedures for primality testing, gcd, multiplicative
    inverse and more. The package is part of a Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM)
    package which includes a PEM mailer, RSA key generator and Certificate
    generation tools."

    Source is in Modula-2, C, and assembler for Sun 3.  LongInt has
    also been ported to MS-DOS under Logitech Modula-2 and Turbo
    Assembler.  Availability:  free for university use (research and
    education); otherwise, a source license is required.  To obtain,
    write or email to:

        Markus Mueller
        Bertastrasse 7
        CH-8953 Dietikon
        Switzerland
        email:  mueller@komsys.tik.ethz.ch

bignum-1.2
    Henrik.Johansson@Nexus.Comm.SE

    Bignum package written in portable C.  Will in the future
    conform to the Common Lisp functions that handles integers.
    Currently includes +, -, *, /, exponentiation, "exptmod",
    comparison, random numbers, and gcd.
    Filename: bignum-1.2

GNU Multiple Precision
    GNU (Free Software Foundation) multiple precision package.
    I haven't looked at it yet.  This is current as of April 1992,
    but there may be a more recent version by the time you read
    this.  This package is very widely available on FTP sites.
    Filename: gmp-1.2.tar.Z

Elliptic Curve Primality Proving
    Francois Morian, France.

    Large package to prove the primality of any prime.
    Includes Inria's BIGNUM package.
    Obtained from ftp.inria.fr (128.93.1.26).
    Filename: ecpp.V3.4.1.tar.Z

PGP (Pretty Good Privacy)
    Philip Zimmermann   prz@sage.cgd.ucar.EDU

    Intel-based crypto package that includes bignum routines in C,
    said to be quite fast for Intel processors.  Unix and Mac
    versions also available.
    The crypto package violates RSA patents, but the bignum routines
    can be used without fear of legal repercussions.

Bell's Arbitrary Precision Calculator
    David I. Bell, Australia  (dbell@pdact.pd.necisa.oz.au)

    Arbitrary-precision calculator with good online help, C-like
    language, many builtin functions, support for integers,
    rational numbers (they work like floating point), complex numbers,
    matrices, strings, lists, files, "objects".  Includes
    gcd, primality testing, even trig functions.  Recommended.
    (Large package, though.)  Obtained from comp.sources.unix.
    Filename: calc-1.24.7.tar.Z

Built-in support in other languages
    Various

    Multiple precision arithmetic is available in a number of
    programming languages, such as Lisp and ABC (cf. mcsun.eu.net).
    Perl (by Larry Wall, available from devvax.jpl.nasa.gov)
    includes source, in Perl, for such a package, but it's probably
    not suitable for serious use.
    For some of these, source code may be available.  This list is
    long enough, so I'm not going to pursue it aggressively.

Thanks to Ed Vielmetti and several others who contributed to this list.


FINAL 1992-93 AMERICAN HOCKEY LEAGUE STANDINGS

NORTHERN DIVISION	W	L	T	PTS	GF	GA	LYF*
Providence Bruins	46	32	2	94	384	348	56
Adirondack Red Wings	36	35	9	81	331	308	84
Capital District Isles	34	34	12	80	280	285	75
Springfield Indians	25	41	14	64	282	336	94
New Haven Senators	22	47	11	55	262	343	--

SOUTHERN DIVISION	W	L	T	PTS	GF	GA	LYF
Binghamton Rangers	57	13	10	124#	392	246	91
Rochester Americans	40	33	7	87	348	332	86
Utica Devils		33	36	11	77	325	354	74
Baltimore Skipjacks	28	40	12	68	318	353	66
Hershey Bears		27	41	12	66	316	339	83
Hamilton Canucks	29	45	6	64	284	327	--

ATLANTIC DIVISION	W	L	T	PTS	GF	GA	LYF
St John's Maple Leafs	41	26	13	95	351	308	90
Fredericton Canadiens	38	31	11	87	314	278	96
Cape Breton Oilers	36	32	12	84	356	336	82
Moncton Hawks		31	33	16	78	292	306	74
Halifax Citadels	33	37	10	76	312	348	67

*- Last year's point total
#- League record total


Subject says it all...
Anyone know where I can find one.  Binaries are nice, but source would
do to.

Thanks in advance,


It's come to this, has it?  Defending Al Gore by comparing him to Dan Quayle?
I'd say that about says it all... back to the pit with ye, back to alt.fan.
dan-quayle!  Begone!

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

Paul Havemann   (Internet: paul@hsh.com)


I have the PAS16 / Toshiba 3401 combo and have no problems with it.


In the May issue of C't Magazine was an article about upgrading 040 models
of apple. They simply change crystals and add a fan.
Hammerhead: Centris 610 was able to work with 25 MHz (cooler prefered)
            and for 1000 DM you get an 68040 (33MHz) which works with the
            appropriate crystal at full speed. (extra cooling required)
            Centris 650 like Quadra 700 with extra cooling 33MHz works on
            most machines and for real power enthusiasts they used a
            Quadra 950 at 40 MHz wow! But for better description you should
            get this issue of C't (a german PC magazine!)

Christian Bauer


[JLE] Q: How many occupying israeli soldiers (terrorists) does it
[JLE] take to kill a 5 year old native child?
[JLE] A: Four
[JLE] Two fasten his arms, one shoots in the face,
[JLE] and one writes up a false report.

A couple of months ago JLE wrote a terrible C program (it would never have
passed compilation). This is one describes JLE the Great.

---- 8< Cut Here and save to jle.c ----------- >8 ----------

#include <stdio.h>
#include <signal.h>

#define	LOSER		0x01
#define	CHILDISH	0x01
#define	UNHUMORISTIC	0x01
#define VULGAR		0x01
#define MOSSAD_AGENT	0x01

#define J_L_E		LOSER | CHILDISH | UNHUMORISTIC | VULGAR | MOSSAD_AGENT

static void
abort()
{
	printf("Even if she wanted, JLE's mother couldn't abort this program");
	printf("\n\n\n\n");
}

void
main()
{
	signal(SIGINT,abort);
	printf("This program does not help Jewish-Arab relations  :-( \n");

	printf("Hit ^C to abort \n");

/* Infinite loop, JLE never comes out of his world 	*/

	while(J_L_E);
}

---- 8< Cut Here ----------- >8 ----------

To compile this "wonderfool" program on a unix machine try.
cc -o jle jle.c
or
make jle

then type jle at your prompt.

I tried it, it works great ...

Tsiel


You can't be serious!  I and many of my colleagues have not received any
bad e-mails from Roger, in fact, Roger happens to have answered most if not
all of my hockey questions and curiosities, so before you start flaming
at me or Roger, better re-consider your nasty attitude towards Roger and the
like!


Yep. Both were started (nominally) simultaneously. Splitsville from the
start (ie, if my sources are correct, one guy was involved in the start of
both groups. true?)

                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil


  Many pagans are involved in environmentalism--this is only natural, since
respect for the earth is a fundamental tenet of all pagan denominations.  This
doesn't mean that environmentalism is wrong, any more than supporting peace in
the Middle East is wrong because Jews and Muslims also work for it.

  Nonetheless, paganism is certainly on the rise, and we as Christians should
address this and look at what draws people from paganism to Christianity.  Like
it or not, pagan religions are addressing needs that Christianity should be,
and isn't.
  I believe that paganism has hit upon some major truths that Christianity has
forgotten.  This doesn't mean that paganism is right, but it does mean that we
have something to learn from the pagan movement.
  First, paganism respects the feminine.  Christianity has a long history of
oppressing women, and many (if not most) male Christians are still unable to
live in a non-sexist manner.  The idea that God is sexless, or that Christ
could have been a women and still accomplished his mission, is met with a great
deal of resistance.  This insistance on a male-dominated theology (and the
male-dominated society that goes with it) drives away many young women who have
had to put up with sexist attitudes in their churches.
  Second, paganism respects the physical world.  This is an idea with great
ramifications.  One of these is environmentalism--respect for our surroundings
and our world.  Another is integration of sexuality.  Christianity has a long
tradition of calling ALL sexual feeelings sinful and urging people to suppress
and deny their sexuality.  This is too much--sex is clearly a part of human
experience and attempting to remove it is simply not a feasible option.
Christianity has only begun to develop a workable sexual ethic, and paganism
is an attractive option.
  I'm not advocating that Christian doctrines (no sex before marriage, etc.)
should be changed--just that Christians work toward a more moderate ethic of
sexuality.  Denial of sexuality places as much emphasis on sex as unmoderated
sexuality, and neither one does much to bring us closer to God.


I finally got the vesa driver for my ATI graphics ultra plus (2M).  However,
when I tried to use this to view under 24bit mode, I get lines on the picture.
With 16bit or below, the picture is fine.  Can someone tell me what was wrong?
Is it the card, or is it the software?
--
Thanks
8)
    _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/    _/    _/    _/_/    _/_/_/    _/_/_/
   _/	     _/    _/  _/    _/  _/    _/  _/    _/  _/    _/
  _/_/_/_/  _/    _/  _/ _/ _/  _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/    _/    _/
 _/        _/    _/  _/ _/ _/  _/    _/  _/  _/    _/    _/
_/_/_/_/  _/_/_/      _/ _/   _/    _/  _/    _/  _/_/_/


From the benchmarks I've seen (was that in MacUser or MacWeek?) the FPU-less
Centris 610 is _faster_ at floating-point operations (the kind of calculations
that get routed to an FPU) than a Mac IIfx!

And a Mac IIfx (68030 @ 40MHz + FPU) is _the_ fastest 030-based Mac.

Take note, of course, that benchmarks never tell the whole story... Get your
favorite program(s) and run them on both machines at the store.  They should
let you do that before you plunk down a hefty amount...

Virtually,
Philippe


04 Apr 93, David Cruz-Uribe writes to All:

 DC> Also, what is Orthodox practice regarding communion?  I read
 DC> a throw-away remark someplace that the Orthodox receive less
 DC> frequently than Catholics do, but was is their current practice?
 DC> Have their been any variations historically?

I think Orthodox practice varies from place to place, from parish to parish and from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In some parishes here in South Africa the only ones who receive communion are infants (i.e. children under
 7). In our parish it is expected that one will have been to Vespers and confessional prayers the evening before, and that one will have been fasting. As we have to travel 70km to the church, we don'
t receive communion every Sunday, but about every third Sunday.

Steve


Mark Wilson responding to C.D. Tavares:

MW>|So the laws exist, and the penalties are as you say, but nobody is ever
MW>|prosecuted under these laws.  They are "traded away" for easy pleas.

MW>Having such gun laws on the books is still better than nothing.
MW>What would the DA have traded away in order to get the guilty plea if the
MW>gun law had not been in effect.

Our liberty?

Right...don't even think about enforcing the law and imposing the prescribed
penalty....let's hose the citizens instead.
---
 . OLX 2.2 . Madness takes its toll - please have exact change


Well, although this may be an uncommon occurrence (or not) I had a "bad"
experience with TechWorks.  This past summer I upgraded (increased) the memory in
a powerbook and a ci.   When I called to place the order for the PB RAM, I was
told by the sales person that they would give me a $50 rebate if I would return
the original RAM (which was also TechWorks RAM.)  I followed the instructions for
returning the old RAM, expecting to see a credit on my VISA within a few weeks.

Well, months went by, and no credit.  After many calls (almost none of which were
ever returned - arghhh) I finally found someone who told me "Why we never
received your old chips."  I then explained I the procedure that I had
followed to return them, to which the person replied "You mean you sent them
US Mail?" (which I had, per the original sales person's instructions.)  I was
told that they their loss of US mail shipments is not uncommon (come on) and that
I should have sent the stuff via FedEx, etc.  I reasoned that I had done exactly
what I had been told to, but they would not budge, the people I spoke with were
absolutely no help.  I sent letters, copies of the original receipts, attempted
to trace the package through the US mail, made *many* more phone calls to
TechWorks, all to no avail (I wouldn't give-up because I was so disgusted.)
Sales/support people, supervisors, there was nothing I could do to pursuade them
to "make it right."

I finally (in total disgust) wrote a letter to my credit card company, asking
them to investigate the problem.   Three weeks later, the credit miraculously
appeared on my statement.  I have not (in recent memory) been so disgusted with
the service that I received from a company.  In all fairness, they had no way of
knowing that was not trying to rip them off, but I went to *such* great lengths
to prove to them that this really happened.  Oh well, c'est la vie.  I will never
buy another product from them again.


From: speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer)

I was attacked by a rabid hubcap once.  I was going to work on a Yamaha
750 Twin (A.K.A. "the vibrating tank") when I heard a wierd noise off to my
left.  I caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and
jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit HARD in the left...

(Rest deleted)

Anyone else had this sort of experience?

 ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----

                          Stolen Taglines...
              * God is real, unless declared integer. *
            * I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. *
         * Black holes are where God is dividing by zero. *
        * The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. *
       * Earth is 98% full.... please delete anyone you can. *

   Actually, hubcap attacks are fairly common, most cagers being too
   incompetant to reinstall them properly after changing tires, or
   to check them after collisions.  Luckily, few are as heavy as the
   one that got you.

Al Moore  DoD  734

Don't forget the immortal


You can add sysedit (& regedit) to a program group... they are Windows
programs.

Is it possible to get it to load other *.ini files ????


Well, I guess I'm left wondering just who all the 'light fascists'
think *they* are.  Yes, I understand the issues.  I don't even
particularly care for the idea.  But am I the only one that finds the
sort of overreaction above just a *little* questionable?  You must
find things like the Moon *really* obnoxious in their pollution.

A few questions for those frothing at the mouth to ask themselves:

	1) How long is this thing supposed to stay up?  Sounds like it
would have a *huge* drag area, not a lot of mass, and be in a fairly
low orbit.

	2) Just what orbital parameters are we talking about here?
What real impact are we talking about, really?  How many optical
astronomers are *really* going to be impacted?

	3) Which is more important; adding a few extra days of
'seeing' for (very few) optical astronomers or getting the data the
sensors are supposed to return along with the data for large
inflatables (and the potential there for an inflatable space station)?
The choice would seem to be one or the other, since the advertising is
being used to help fund this thing.

	4) If your answer to 3) above was "the astronomers", then feel
free to come up with some other way to fund the (to my mind) more
important research data that would be gained by this WITHOUT SPENDING
ANY MORE OF MY MONEY TO DO IT.  In other words, put up or shut up.

Probably so.  I'm just not sure we agree about who the 'stupid' are.

Yeah, me too.

--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden


Do anyone know about any shading program based on Xlib in the public domain?
I need an example about how to allocate correct colormaps for the program.

Appreciate the help.


I am auctioning off the following comics.  These minimum bids are set
below what I would normally sell them for.  Make an offer, and I will
accept the highest bid after the auction has been completed.

TITLE                                                   Minimum/Current
--------------------------------------------------------------
Alpha Flight 51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel)	$ 5.00
Aliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988)	$20.00
Amazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin)         $20.00
Amazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin)	$50.00
Archer and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller/Smith/Layton)	$ 7.50
Avengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor)                  $ 3.50
Bloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover/Poster)	$ 5.00
Daredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $35.00
Dark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)	$ 7.50
H.A.R.D. Corps 1 					$ 5.00
Incredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1, 1962)	$ 7.50
Incredible Hulk 330 (1st McFarlane issue)		$15.00
Incredible Hulk 331 (Grey Hulk series begins)		$11.20
Incredible Hulk 367 (1st Dale Keown art in Hulk)        $15.00
Incredible Hulk 377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $15.00
Marvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.50
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New Mutants 86 (McFarlane cover, 1st app Cable - cameo)	$10.00
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Omega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo)                       $ 7.50
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Simpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.)	$ 7.50
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Wolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)	$15.00
Wolverine 41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)	$ 5.00
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Wolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)		$20.00
Wonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man)                 $12.50
X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $20.00
X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $10.00
X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $10.00
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All comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny
polypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is
$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order
a large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.

I have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what
you've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted
here don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.


There is another useful method based on Least Sqyares Estimation of the sphere equation parameters.

The points (x,y,z) on a spherical surface with radius R and center (a,b,c) can be written as

   (x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 + (z-c)^2 = R^2

This equation can be rewritten into the following form:

   2ax + 2by + 2cz + R^2 - a^2 - b^2 -c^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2

Approximate the left hand part by   F(x,y,z) = p1.x + p2.x + p3.z + p4.1

For all datapoints, i.c. 4, determine the 4 parameters p1..p4 which minimise the average error |F(x,y,z) - x^2 - y^2 - z^2|^2.

In 'Numerical Recipes in C' can be found algorithms to solve these parameters.

The best fitting sphere will have
- center (a,b,c) = (p1/2, p2/2, p3/2)
- radius R = sqrt(p4 + a.a + b.b + c.c).

So, at last, will this solve you sphere estination problem, at least for the most situations I think ?.


On my 486DX33 with the Stealth 24 VLB I get 11.4 WinMarks with ver. 3.11


Last week I posted the ALL-TIME GREATEST PLAYERS (and haphazardly misspelled
several names--SORRY!)  This week, it's time for the greatest PEAK players.
I evaluated the following players on 4 consectutive seasons which constituted
their "prime" or "peak" years.  (3 was too few; 5 seemed to many--so I settled
for 4).  Sources, as usual, include Total Baseball 1993 and my own (biased)
opinions.
Here goes, feel free to comment.

 1.  Ted Williams (includes season after war)--missed actual peak years
 2.  Babe Ruth
 3.  Walter Johnson
 4.  Mickey Mantle
 5.  Mike Schmidt  (actual peak year shortened by strike)
 6.  Barrry Bonds  (currently at peak)
 7.  Honus Wagner
 8.  Ty Cobb
 9.  Tris Speaker
10.  Willie Mays
11.  Lefty Grove
12.  Sandy Koufax
13.  Joe Morgan
14.  Ed Walsh
15.  Christy Mathewson
16.  Lou Gehrig
17.  Jimmie Foxx
18.  Cal Ripken Jr.
19.  Pete Alexander
20.  Cy Young
21.  Tim Raines
22.  Rickey Henderson  (again, strike year '81 included)
23.  Carl Yastrzemski
24.  Jackie Robinson
25.  Joe DiMaggio
26.  Rogers Hornsby
27.  George Sisler
28.  Eddie Collins
29.  Hank Aaron
30.  Stan Musial
31.  Joe Jackson
32.  Wade Boggs
33.  Charlie Gehringer
34.  Ernie Banks
35.  Bob Gibson
36.  Carl Hubbell
37.  Robin Yount
38.  Rod Carew
39.  Chuck Klein
40.  Willie McCovey
41.  Frank Robinson
42.  Tom Seaver
43.  Roger Clemens  (arguably, still in peak)
44.  Mel Ott
45.  Frank Baker
46.  Nap Lajoie  (peak came in suspect league)
47.  Dizzy Trout
48.  George Brett
49.  Mordecai Brown
50.  Ryne Sandberg

1B  Peak
 1) Gehrig
 2) Foxx
 3) Sisler
 4) McCovey
 5) Greenberg
 6) Frank Thomas (projected--sorry)
 7) Dick Allen
 8) Johnny Mize
 9) Eddie Murray (yes, Mr.Consistency had a peak)
10) Bill Terry

2B
 1) Morgan
 2) J.Robinson
 3) Collins
 4) Hornsby
 5) Gehringer
 6) Carew (treated as a 2B, even though played 1B)
 7) Sandberg
 8) Bobby Grich
 9) Nap Lajoie
10) Bill Herman, Mazeroski (tough call)

3B)
 1) Schmidt
 2) Boggs
 3) F.Baker
 4) Brett
 5) Ed Mathews
 6) Ron Santo
 7) Harland Clift
 8) Ken Boyer
 9) Buddy Bell
10) Darrell Evans

SS
 1) Wagner
 2) Ripken
 3) Banks
 4) Yount
 5) John Lloyd (estimated)
 6) Arky Vaughan
 7) Barry Larkin  (still in peak?)
 8) Lou Boudreau
 9) Ozzie Smith
10) Joe Sewell

LF
 1) Williams
 2) Ba.Bonds
 3) Raines
 4) Henderson (actually had 2 peaks; 80-83 & 83-86)
 5) Yastrzemski
 6) Musial
 7) J.Jackson
 8) Ralph Kiner
 9) Al Simmons
10) George Foster
11) Willie Stargell

CF
 1) Mantle
 2) Cobb
 3) Speaker
 4) Mays
 5) DiMaggio
 6) Oscar Charleston (again, estimated)
 7) Duke Snider
 8) Ken Griffey Jr.  (personal assumption)
 9) Kirby Puckett
10) Richie Ashburn
11) Dale Murphy (strike season?)

RF
 1) Ruth
 2) Aaron
 3) Klein
 4) F.Robinson
 5) Ott
 6) Roberto Clemente
 7) Tony Gwynn
 8) Dave Parker
 9) Reggie Jackson
10) Harry Heilmann
11) Jose Canseco
12) Darryl Strawberry

 C
 1) Josh Gibson (estimated)
 2) Mickey Cochrane
 3) Gary Carter
 4) Johnny Bench
 5) Roy Campanella
 6) Yogi Berra
 7) Bill Dickey
 8) Gabby Hartnett
 9) Elston Howard
10) Ted Simmons
11) Joe Torre

 P
 1) W.Johnson
 2) Grove
 3) Koufax
 4) Walsh
 5) Mathewson
 6) Alexander
 7) Young
 8) Gibson
 9) Hubbell
10) Seaver
11) Clemens
12) Satchel Paige (estimated)
13) D.Trout
14) Juan Marichal
15) Mordecai Brown
16) Joe Wood
17) Dave Steib
18) Jim Palmer
19) Bob Lemon
20) Fergie Jenkins

 RP
 1) Who cares?

I hope there are some surprises here: Raines above Muisial?  Carter above
 Bench?  Ripken above Banks?  Bonds above Mays?
Check the numbers of each player in comparison to the numbers of the rest
of the players that year(s), and you'll see that I'm fairly close with
this ranking system (which is primarily based on Total Player Rating) for
four consecutive years.


Any new reports about iisi clock upgrade to 25 mhz,  33 mhz?
Any failures?


They come with every Iris now.  Nth also ships it with their latest
version of Nth Portable GL.  I just got the update a couple of weeks
ago.  I would assume that Silicon Graphics would license the source
to you so that you can include it in your company's GL offering.


recently-manufactured locomotives have wheel-slip detection systems
that use frequencies shared with police radar (i forget which band).
these will set off your radar detector if you get close enough, though
i believe the range is pretty short.


I've recently moved from Unix to a DOS box and have a number of files
that I used crypt to "protect".  Does anyone know of a DOS version of
crypt?  I've found one, but it insists on six letter keys and I used
some shorter ones.  Thanks for your help.  -- Doug


Ah... The joys of networking. I just hope that you forgot the :->

I don't. I use NDW.

If you like things to be modular, I think you would love System 7.
Instead of adding a line to your autoexec.bat, you just drop the
icon into the extensions folder.


One not-so-quick question to throw out there for you guys...

For our class project, we need to design and build a power supply
to the following specs:

Voltatge:  adjustable from 1-12V
Current:   *limited* at 1A

Voltage must stay within 2% of designated value for I from 0-1A
AC ripple less than 5 mV (rms)

Of course, we can't just use an adjustable voltage, current-limiting
regulator chip ;^)

Our problem is with the current limiting (i.e. we've found stuff to
do the rest of the parts of the circuit).  What the supply must do,
if presented with a load which would draw more than 1A, given the
supply voltage, is reduce the voltage so that the current will equal
one amp.  Thus, if we were to short the thing with the ammeter, we
should read one amp.  If we measure the current through a 1 ohm
resistor at 12V, we should read one amp (and the output voltage, by
necessity, must be 1V.

The only basic idea we have seen for the current limiter involves
a circuit which will pull current off of the base of the output
power transistor, and therefore reduce the output.

So, does anybody have any ideas we could work from?

Thanks in advance.

Andy Collins, KC6YEY
acollins@uclink.berkeley.edu


:      For all the problems technology has caused, your types have made
: things even worse.  Must we be reminded of the Inquisition, Operation
: Rescue, the Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus, the 700 Club, David Duke, Salem
: Witch Trials, the Crusades, gay bashings, etc.
:      PLUS virtually each and every single war, regardless of the level of
: technology, has had theistic organizations cheering on the carnage
: (chaplains, etc.), and claiming that god was in favor of the whole ordeal.
: Don't forget to pray for our troops!
:

This is really tedious. Every bad thing that's ever happened is
because the malefactors were under the influence of religion - does
anyone -really- believe that. I've seen it so often it must be a
pretty general opinion in a.a, but I want to believe that atheists are
really not THAT dishonest. Please, stick to the facts and, having
accomplished that, interpret them correctly.


I am looking for the exact address of the Symantec Coporatoin, which
distributes Norton Desktop and other Windows software.

The information I am looking for is:

Mail address
Phone number
Fax number
E-mail address

Thanks in advance.


I have a problem with icon pixmap. My application has to run
   under openwindow and motif. I wrote my program in Motif with pixmap and
   icons. It runs fine under motif/motif window manager and X11R5/mwm. But
   the icon pixmap does not show up under openwin/olwm and X11R5/olwm.

             Has anybody got into this kind of problem? Need a clue. An
   example which works in both X11R5/motif and openwindow will be great.


Yes, there are serveral programs which can convert font files (eq the Borland
fonts) to objects consisting of spheres, cones etc.
I've used a program (forgot its name/place, but i can look for it) which
converted these Borland fonts to three different raytracers. Vivid, POV and
Polyray (which i like more (more flexibel/faster/use of expressions etc).
The program has a lot nice features.
So if interested give me a mail.


: In article <1993Apr12.201056.20753@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (

: >Now, I'm not saying that culturing is the best way to diagnose; it's very
: >hard to culture Bb in most cases.  The point is that Dr. N has developed a
: >"feel" for what is and what isn't LD.  This comes from years of experience.
: >No serology can match that.  Unfortunately, some would call Dr. N a "quack"
: >and accuse him of trying to make a quick buck.
: >
: Why do you think he would be called a quack?  The quacks don't do cultures.
: They poo-poo doing more lab tests:  "this is Lyme, believe me, I've
: seen it many times.  The lab tests aren't accurate.  We'll treat it
: now."  Also, is Dr. N's practice almost exclusively devoted to treating
: Lyme patients?  I don't know *any* orthopedic surgeons who fit this
: pattern.  They are usually GPs.

No, he does not exclusively treat LD patients.  However, in some parts of the
country, you don't need to be known as an LD "specialist" to see a large
number of LD patients walk through your office.  Given the huge problem of
underdiagnosis, orthopedists encounter late manifestations of the disease just
about every day in their regular practices.  Dr. N. told me that last year,
he sent between 2 and 5 patients a week to the LD specialists... and he is not
the only orthopedists in the town.

Let's say that only 2 people per week actually have LD.  That means at the
*very minimum* 104 people in our town (and immediate area) develop late stage
manifestations of LD *every year*.  Add in the folks who were diagnosed by
neurologists, rheumatologists, GPs, etc, and you can see what kind of problem
we have.  No wonder just about everybody in town personally knows an LD
patient.

He refers most patients to LD specialists, but in extreme cases he puts the
patient on medication immediately to minimize the damage (in most cases, to
the knees).

Gordon is correct when he states that most LD specialists are GPs.

-Marc.
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