Here is the OPI (Offensive Production Index) for all AL players with at
least 10 at bats.

It is early in the season so there are some very high numbers.  Last years
leader was Frank Thomas at 0.682.

Teams are denoted by an * as the first character of the name and each
player has his team preceeding his name.

The equations used are found at the end of the post.

Comments and suggestions are welcome.

Kevin

League OPI: 0.448
League BA:  0.268
League SLG: 0.405
League OBA: 0.341

Rank Player                 OPI     BA    SLG    OBA
-----------------------------------------------------
1    Tor,carter            2.142  0.583  1.417  0.615
2    Cle,baerga            1.432  0.520  1.040  0.538
3    Det,phillips          1.334  0.565  0.609  0.655
4    Oak,mcgwire           1.147  0.364  0.636  0.632
5    Tor,white             1.065  0.500  0.650  0.545
6    Bal,anderson          0.951  0.423  0.692  0.500
7    NYY,owen              0.934  0.500  0.577  0.567
8    Oak,rhenderson        0.911  0.391  0.565  0.533
9    Mil,thon              0.804  0.476  0.619  0.476
10   Oak,browne            0.800  0.476  0.476  0.522
11   Tex,palmer            0.781  0.333  0.875  0.333
11   Det,gibson            0.781  0.312  0.562  0.500
13   Cle,howard            0.755  0.455  0.727  0.455
14   NYY,tartabull         0.742  0.296  0.667  0.424
15   Tex,rodriguez         0.736  0.429  0.500  0.529
15   Tex,gonzalez          0.736  0.261  0.913  0.292
17   Bos,zupcic            0.728  0.400  0.500  0.455
18   Sea,felder            0.723  0.357  0.429  0.471
19   Oak,blankenship       0.722  0.333  0.333  0.524
20   Min,puckett           0.717  0.280  0.720  0.379
21   NYY,oneill            0.710  0.435  0.609  0.458
22   Cle,belle             0.703  0.348  0.696  0.375
23   Sea,buhner            0.699  0.294  0.471  0.478
24   Mil,hamilton          0.682  0.458  0.458  0.500
25   Det,whitaker          0.680  0.312  0.500  0.421
26   Det,fielder           0.666  0.273  0.591  0.407
27   Tor,sprague           0.649  0.300  0.750  0.300
28   Whi,cora              0.646  0.350  0.500  0.458
29   Whi,raines            0.641  0.250  0.750  0.308
30   NYY,kelly             0.625  0.348  0.565  0.375
31   Bos,quintana          0.617  0.455  0.455  0.455
32   Sea,tmartinez         0.612  0.211  0.632  0.348
32   Cal,gonzales          0.612  0.250  0.250  0.478
34   Whi,burks             0.609  0.348  0.565  0.375
35   Cal,snow              0.602  0.368  0.526  0.400
36   Whi,karkovice         0.598  0.167  0.417  0.412
37   *Cleveland            0.595  0.340  0.549  0.377
38   Cle,sorrento          0.594  0.273  0.727  0.273
39   Sea,amaral            0.587  0.368  0.579  0.429
39   Bos,cooper            0.587  0.375  0.458  0.423
41   Min,winfield          0.578  0.292  0.667  0.292
42   Cal,curtis            0.571  0.333  0.381  0.417
43   Bos,mvaughn           0.566  0.316  0.526  0.350
44   Oak,steinbach         0.556  0.333  0.542  0.385
45   *Oakland              0.555  0.298  0.439  0.406
46   NYY,maas              0.547  0.333  0.389  0.429
47   Kan,joyner            0.546  0.300  0.400  0.417
48   Min,knoblauch         0.535  0.304  0.348  0.448
49   Bos,greenwell         0.534  0.261  0.478  0.370
50   Oak,brosius           0.532  0.273  0.545  0.333
51   Tor,olerud            0.530  0.333  0.400  0.412
52   Bal,mercedes          0.529  0.286  0.429  0.412
53   *NYYankees            0.527  0.321  0.468  0.377
54   Bal,hoiles            0.525  0.263  0.526  0.333
55   Mil,kmak              0.523  0.286  0.286  0.412
56   Oak,dhenderson        0.517  0.231  0.462  0.412
57   Cle,lofton            0.515  0.346  0.385  0.370
58   Min,larkin            0.514  0.357  0.500  0.400
59   Bos,dawson            0.504  0.333  0.458  0.360
60   Cle,camartinez        0.503  0.333  0.389  0.400
61   Det,gladden           0.498  0.312  0.500  0.312
62   Cal,polonia           0.494  0.292  0.500  0.320
63   *California           0.487  0.295  0.404  0.364
64   *Detroit              0.484  0.260  0.410  0.357
65   Det,tettleton         0.475  0.211  0.421  0.348
66   Cal,disarcina         0.473  0.304  0.478  0.304
67   Cal,easley            0.472  0.304  0.435  0.333
68   Bal,baines            0.470  0.300  0.400  0.364
69   Tex,franco            0.469  0.300  0.350  0.391
70   Whi,ljohnson          0.464  0.280  0.400  0.333
71   Sea,vizquel           0.463  0.222  0.222  0.417
72   NYY,bwilliams         0.461  0.294  0.471  0.314
73   Mil,gvaughn           0.460  0.222  0.389  0.391
74   Min,hrbek             0.458  0.240  0.360  0.367
75   Bal,cripken           0.451  0.333  0.407  0.379
75   *Seattle              0.451  0.237  0.367  0.361
77   Cal,salmon            0.448  0.267  0.267  0.450
78   Kan,mcreynolds        0.447  0.182  0.500  0.280
79   *Toronto              0.443  0.261  0.430  0.318
79   *Texas                0.443  0.237  0.489  0.289
81   Min,pagliarulo        0.439  0.286  0.429  0.333
82   *WhiteSox             0.432  0.243  0.378  0.336
83   Kan,hiatt             0.431  0.278  0.500  0.316
84   Whi,guillen           0.426  0.263  0.263  0.364
85   Whi,thomas            0.419  0.259  0.333  0.355
86   Kan,mcrae             0.414  0.296  0.333  0.345
87   *Boston               0.411  0.270  0.365  0.336
88   Cle,hill              0.410  0.300  0.500  0.300
89   NYY,mattingly         0.400  0.324  0.353  0.343
90   *Baltimore            0.394  0.251  0.361  0.315
91   Bal,gomez             0.382  0.316  0.316  0.350
91   *Minnesota            0.382  0.237  0.379  0.298
93   Whi,fisk              0.381  0.273  0.545  0.273
94   Cle,jefferson         0.379  0.263  0.316  0.333
95   Oak,neel              0.370  0.188  0.500  0.188
96   Cal,cdavis            0.369  0.211  0.421  0.250
97   Bos,fletcher          0.364  0.217  0.391  0.280
98   *Milwaukee            0.361  0.257  0.293  0.333
99   Det,livingstone       0.360  0.250  0.438  0.294
100  Tor,ralomar           0.354  0.263  0.316  0.333
101  *KansasCity           0.343  0.236  0.327  0.291
102  Oak,bordick           0.339  0.200  0.250  0.304
103  Tex,canseco           0.337  0.190  0.381  0.261
104  Sea,valle             0.336  0.250  0.312  0.294
105  Bal,devereaux         0.329  0.207  0.379  0.233
106  Kan,lind              0.323  0.188  0.438  0.188
107  Mil,surhoff           0.312  0.227  0.273  0.292
107  Kan,brett             0.312  0.259  0.296  0.286
109  Whi,bell              0.310  0.207  0.310  0.258
110  Cle,salomar           0.306  0.200  0.200  0.304
111  Mil,jaha              0.304  0.267  0.267  0.353
111  Det,fryman            0.304  0.185  0.296  0.214
113  NYY,boggs             0.296  0.200  0.233  0.294
114  Tex,bripken           0.290  0.250  0.333  0.308
115  Min,mack              0.289  0.233  0.333  0.258
116  Min,harper            0.288  0.280  0.280  0.280
117  Cle,fermin            0.284  0.200  0.200  0.304
118  Bos,rivera            0.276  0.118  0.176  0.286
119  Mil,spiers            0.275  0.231  0.231  0.286
120  Mil,yount             0.268  0.208  0.208  0.269
121  Tor,schofield         0.265  0.133  0.267  0.235
121  Tex,hulse             0.265  0.154  0.308  0.214
123  Sea,griffey           0.261  0.105  0.263  0.261
124  Sea,obrien            0.259  0.100  0.100  0.308
124  Kan,macfarlane        0.259  0.273  0.273  0.333
126  Oak,sierra            0.256  0.200  0.240  0.231
127  Kan,jose              0.254  0.167  0.167  0.286
128  Bos,hatcher           0.252  0.188  0.188  0.278
129  Sea,blowers           0.251  0.200  0.200  0.273
130  Whi,ventura           0.247  0.167  0.167  0.310
130  Tex,palmeiro          0.247  0.130  0.261  0.167
132  Bal,reynolds          0.227  0.118  0.118  0.250
133  Kan,mayne             0.222  0.231  0.231  0.231
133  Cal,myers             0.222  0.231  0.231  0.231
135  NYY,nokes             0.219  0.150  0.300  0.150
136  Bos,calderon          0.209  0.167  0.167  0.286
137  Bos,pena              0.207  0.267  0.267  0.267
138  Tor,molitor           0.194  0.150  0.200  0.190
139  Det,deer              0.182  0.125  0.167  0.192
140  Det,cuyler            0.179  0.077  0.154  0.143
141  Tor,borders           0.159  0.111  0.167  0.158
142  Whi,grebeck           0.141  0.100  0.100  0.182
143  Bal,gdavis            0.137  0.111  0.148  0.143
144  Tex,dascenzo          0.128  0.091  0.182  0.091
145  Min,leius             0.115  0.083  0.083  0.154
145  Mil,reimer            0.115  0.083  0.083  0.154
147  Tor,djackson          0.114  0.133  0.133  0.133
148  Tex,gill              0.070  0.059  0.059  0.158
149  Kan,gagne             0.042  0.095  0.095  0.095

      0.74*1B + 1.28*2B + 1.64*3B + 2.25*HR + 0.53*BB + 0.34*(SB-2*CS)
OPI = ----------------------------------------------------------------
                              AB - H

BA = H / AB

SLG = (H + 2B + 2*3B + 3*HR) / AB

OBA = (H + BB) / (AB + BB)


I am not an expert in the cryptography science, but some basic things
seem evident to me, things which this Clinton Clipper do not address.
The all pertain to opportunites for abuse, and conclusions based on what
I have seen the membership of this group (except for two notable persons)
agree to.  If anything bad is possible by the government in theory, it
almost always ends up happening in fact.  So the key is to make abuse
IMPOSSIBLE.  Question authority, and remember power DOES corrupt.

I think one has to regard this whole idea in the sense that it WILL be
expanded to include other data forms, such as data transfer and stored
data. and as such should be treated as if it were expanded (or such
expansion will be almost impossible to stop, using Clipper as a precident).
There was a hint of that in the proposal, remember.  That said, please
bear with me, I am not very articulate, so I take more words to say
what others could say much more briefly.  Thank you.

As I suggested this is NOW.  The hint is in the proposal that this or
similar proposals are being considered for other forms of encryptions
such as data transfer, data files, and such, largely dependent on how
this thing is accepted or flies.  I think one would be wise to treat
this in the manner one would when (not if) it gets expanded to other
areas than cellular phones.  I think this is guaranteed to happen, if
this proposal gets by.  Salami politics.  It has been and is used in
several other areas, it is certain to be used here.  Government is not
going to easily give up on the idea that they should be able to eavesedrop
whenever they want to.  'Court order required' has proven to be a rather
flimsy guarantee.  If the case warrants, they can always sieze the
material, and force one to give the key, or sit in jail forever on
periodically renewed contempt charges.  So it is not denying the justice
system the information, nor the ability to lock someone up if guilty
(or refuses to divulge the means to access the info - this is not
protected under the Fifth - one can be forced to perform ACTS that would
result in divulging incriminating evidence).  So, blocking restrictions
on private encryption is not preventing LEGITIMATE law enforcement - it
does make ILLEGITIMATE law enforcement a bunch more difficult.  Especially
fishing expeditions without the target's knowlege.  Don't give up the
right to be safe from that - that should be non-negotiable, and Clinton
and Co. know it (which is probably why they quietly developed this thing,
figuring if they get it this far, they can ram it on through).  How come
those consulted could be roughly described as "us insiders"?  They cannot
quietely IMPLIMENT it though, when they ban other schemes to ensure its
exclusive use.  Hence the nice PR document to try and reassure everyone.
Don't buy into it.  Has government really earned that kind of trust,
past or future?  To be secure and free, one must keep government honest
and the only way to do that is to make abuse IMPOSSIBLE, not 'unlikely'
or 'difficult'.

So what?  One could use information gained by re-use of the keys (saved
after the last case was finished) or other means (master key, backdoor,
easily broken algorithm) to find other evidence which, given to a judge,
would authorize a tap which wouldn't have been possible otherwise.  This
has been the more common manner of abuse of wiretaps in the past...  For
local cops, this might be workable to keep them honest, but the Feds
have a workaround somehow, BET on it.  Does anyone really believe
for example, that the government will use a scheme NSA cannot listen
in on scanning for keywords - either easily defeated in realtime or
via a 'master key'?  I sure don't.

This whole thing sounds like something to eliminate the need to use
old-fashioned police work to build a case.  In the past, eavesdropping
was rather easy (with or without a court order).  I think the Law
Enforcement community has become a bit spoiled, and will resist changes
that require them to revert to using old-fashioned detective work.  I
just find it somewhat surprising coming from a bunch that cares so much
about civil and individual rights, that "puts people first".  The question
is "put people first" to WHERE?

With the innards not being revealed, how is one to be sure there DOESN'T
exist a 'master key' for use by NSA, etc (so they can do their keyword
scan, etc on conversations they routinely monitor, without a specific
court order)?   Remember, the cellular phone limitiation is only TEMPORARY.
Bet on it.  And so far I have not heard about police telling people that
they have been tapped and nothing incriminating was found.  What is to
keep them from simply keeping the keys on file for 'next time'? After
awhile, they would have quite a collection.  Kept especially for folks
they deem 'disruptive'.  And if they get only one key, that would
reduce the search space a lot, unless it is an RSA scheme.  Remember
Nixon years?  Need for court orders really slowed them down, didn't it?

And unless the escrow accounts are not government controlled (fat chance!
I see one ending up being under, say Treasury, the other under Justice
:-)) it could be worth some serious bucks to some folks to get keys to
a competitor's Clinton Clipper (or descendent when this idea is expanded
to be used for all non-government encryption).  Enough bucks would get
one the keys or the innards for this algorithm.  Perhaps not an important
concern, but given past government behavior and the other problems...

What will one do when it is expanded to data storage encryption?  You
can BET that if Clipper is accepted, that will be next on the agenda.
It is even hinted at in the proposal - read it carefully...  Expect the
argumet "well, if you got nothing to hide..."  Fine. Then using that
argument, one should not object to video cameras being installed in
every room of one's home.  Granted - an exteme expansion of the idea but
the principle holds.  Private stuff should remain private, even from a
govt fishing expedition.  And laws/rules may change in the future as
to 'safeguards'.  When it comes to the Fed Government, safeguards are
pretty meaningless, if they want to do/get something.

Don't work so hard to give up some rather treasured rights, or establish
bad precidents, please.  The price could be hell to pay, later.

People would fight laws forbidding more NOW, but in, say two years,
because we have this 'crisis' situation which MUST be addressed by some
'drastic action', just this added reasonable restriction will only bother
those who have someting to hide... etc.  Please don't buy into it.

If the Clinton Clipper is so very good, why not make its algrithm public
so many people can exchange ideas and examine it, rather than a few
isolated 'respected experts' (respected by whom?  for what?  Perhaps a
certain professor who likes key banks would be one of the selected
experts... this does seem to expand on some ideas the person was
advocating, if I recall :-).  How would anybody know that what the
experts examine is the same as what will end up being used in the Clipper
Chip, if it is kept secret?   Perhaps the Clipper will use a crippled
version (with a 'master key' provision), or features not present in the
version subjected for study and evaluation by the experts.  And who
chooses the expertes?  The government?  No conflict of interest there...
:-)

And isn't it a REQUIREMENT for any decent encryption scheme that it NOT
have its effectiveness reduced by having the algrorithm widely known?
I was lead to believe that one should assume the other side has everything
you have, except for the key(s)... I recall ideas presented to this
group are rejected if a requirement exists the algorithm be secret...

Another question - since it is a safe bet this Clipper thing would not
be used for government security, they are regarding it as not real secure
but "good enough" for common folk.  I think I would like to see a full
description (not a PR non-statement) of just what "good enough" means?
I think when saying how strong it is, "good enough" really means "not
very".  The excuse that other countries have these restrictions is not
acceptable:  Other countries do not have our Bill of Rights and
Constitution (which the people, not the governments, of those other
countries often regard with envy - what we have as rights they have as
revokable privileges).  And if we expect to retain those rights and
protections, we must not allow them to be gutted because we just GOTTA
have this thing to 'fight crime'.  We have allready have our Bill of
Rights pretty much torn to shreds.  We should not permit more weakining
for yet another 'noble cause', instead we should be trying to repair
the damage.  Our crime problem may have a number of causes, but "too
many rights and safeguards" is not a signifigant one.  A broken court
system and poor police work are a much more signifigant cause as having
"too many rights" (disregarding addressing the root causes for crime,
etc).

BTW - those who suggest that this is just an attack on Clinton, believe
this:  I would be going ballistic reagardless WHO seriously proposed
this thing.  It is just another step in a gradual erosion of our rights
under the Constitution or Bill of Rights.  The last couple of decades
have been a non-stop series of end-runs around the protections of the
Constitution.  It has to stop.  Now is as good a time as any, if it
isn't too late allready.


From mikefran Wed Apr 21 10:55:39 EDT 1993
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1981 Volkswagon Scirocco

   Gold exterior and interior
   5 speed transmission
   AM/FM Stereo with cassette
   Sunroof
   Engine in good condition
   New Tires
   Needs $300 work on front left control arm because of damage caused by
     pothole.
   Runs well
   Asking $800.00  AS IS / OBO.


Is there an FTP archive for United States Geological Services (USGS)
terrain data? If so, where?


No need to correct it, it stands as it is said.

You miss the point entirely. Things defined by contradictory language
do not exist. Though something existing might be meant, conclusions
drawn from the description are wrong, unless there is the possibility
to find the described, and draw conclusions from direct knowledge of
the described then. Another possibility is to drop the contradictory
part, but that implies that one can trust the concept as presented
and that one has not got to doubt the source of it as well.

Neither am I. But either things are directly sensed (which includes
some form of modelling, by the way) or they are used in modelling.
Using something contradictive in modelling is not approved of.
Wonder why?


	The runner can leave his base at any time.  If the ball is caught,
he's got to tag up.  If it isn't caught, he _doesn't_ have to tag up at
all.  So, if he's feeling lucky, your runner at second can sprint for glory
as soon as the ball is popped up.  If it isn't caught, he's probably scored
a run.  If it is, he's probably headed for AAA.

	The only effect the infield fly has is to make the batter out,
thereby removing the force on the runners on base.  All other rules apply,
as if you were standing second with first open and the ball is popped up.


It's still in the pub/pc/win3/uploads directory as qvtnet34.zip.


	Unfortunately, I am one of the "negative-impaired".  The
	above sentence says (I believe), that the bike DID move
	off course.  Of course.

				;-)  Michael


I hear George Bush (remember him?) will receive an honors degree from
some Kuwaiti University for contributing to certain Kuwaiti interests
not too long ago.  Do you think it would add much to his resume? ;-)


Uh Oh!  The first sign of an argument without merit--the stating of one's
"qualifications" in an area.  If you know something about Nazi Germany,
show it.  If you don't, shut up.  Simple as that.


Sounds liek what the FED has to do is sign a 50 or more year lease to use
certain parts of a space station that is built and designed and such by a
commerical company or consortium of companies (such as like Alyeska) for a
small amount of rent in return for certain incentives and such.. Such as tax
and other right off and also a monopoly on certain products.. The commerical
builders would have certain perks given to them to make there end easier (taxes
, contracts, regulatory concesions and such..)

Is it workable, just might work..

After all, if China can lease out Hong Kong and the people of Hong Kong can
make money, this could work..


Brand new, still shrink wraped Stealth 24 for sale $150 plus shipping
and COD.
Specifications:
Based on S3 801/805 32bit coporcessor, 1024x768x256 72Hz Ni, 800x600x64K NI,
640x480x16million NI, system requires 386 or 486 based ISA or VESA VL-BUS,
with fast TurboWindows drivers for 3.1 and other drivers for other popular
softwares like WP, Microsoft Word,Lotus,AutoCad.


I think you are running Xapollo , it's a X11R3 server ...

If you want a X11R4 server you should install PSKQ3 (10.3.5) or 10.4
  so you can run Xdomain .

In XKeysymDB you could add :
!		Apollo specific keysyms
!
apLineDel            : 1000FF00
apCharDel            : 1000FF01
apCopy               : 1000FF02
apCut                : 1000FF03
apPaste              : 1000FF04
apMove               : 1000FF05
apGrow               : 1000FF06
apCmd                : 1000FF07
apShell              : 1000FF08
apLeftBar            : 1000FF09
apRightBar           : 1000FF0A
apLeftBox            : 1000FF0B
apRightBox           : 1000FF0C
apUpBox              : 1000FF0D
apDownBox            : 1000FF0E
apPop                : 1000FF0F
apRead               : 1000FF10
apEdit               : 1000FF11
apSave               : 1000FF12
apExit               : 1000FF13
apRepeat             : 1000FF14
apKP_parenleft       : 1000FFA8
apKP_parenright      : 1000FFA9

--
Victor .

                                            \     /
                                              ^ ^
______victor@hpfrcu03.france.hp.com_______oOOo_o_oOOo_________________

Victor GATTEGNO


Pardon me for being a little confused, but at the beginning of your second
paragraph, you say, "God has one set of rules for all his people," yet at the
end of the same paragraph you declare, "please do not combine the ceremonial
and moral laws in one."  Not only do I not understand where in the Bible you
find the declaration that there are 2 laws (ceremonial and moral), but I am
also unclear on whether you think it is bad to have 2 sets of laws in the first
place.  If it's bad to have 2 sets of laws, how can there be a ceremonial law
that is different from the moral law (and vice versa)?

I would also be interested in your comments on the passage in I Cor. 10:1-16,
where Paul teaches different rules for covering you head while praying
depending on whether you are a man or a woman.  Do you think the apostles can
prescribe different sets of rules for men and women?  If so, then why not for
Jews and Gentiles?  Also, why did Paul, who was so opposed to circumcising
Gentiles, voluntarily circumcise Timothy?


I am looking for a 8 meg 72-pin SIMM for my Centris 610.  Where is the
best place to purchase one (stock, shipping, warrenty), and if
possible, phone numbers so that I can order one as soon as possible.

Thanks,

Steven

--
"And hope that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space"  Monty Python
" 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth"           The Meaning of Life


WASHINGTON (UPI) -- A senior State Department official on Tuesday
ruled out any softening of U.S. attitudes toward Iraq but said relations
with Iran's Islamic regime could improve substantially if that
government disassociates itself from international terrorism.
	``Despite the name-calling and the harsh rhetoric from across the
Gulf, despite all this, we do not take a position of permanent hostility
towards the Islamic Republic of Iran,'' David Mack, deputy assistant
secretary for Near Eastern Affairs, said.
	The primary U.S. objection is ``Iran's international behaviour''
which includes ``extending support of violence'' to disrupt the Arab
Israeli peace process and its rapid build-up of dangerous weapons.
	Mack said ``Iran could contribute to regional stability and peace but
first it is to end the behaviour which threatens this area.''
	Mack spoke at the U.S.-GCC business conference aimed at promoting
Gulf-American trade. He said the ``Middle East will be an item very high
on the agenda of the U.S. administration.''
	The importance of the Gulf is underlined by Secretary of State Warren
Christoper's visit last year to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait before anywhere
else in the world, Mack said. He added that the U.S. has no long-term
plan to station troops in the Gulf.
	Mack also insisted that the Clinton administration will continue to
pressure Iraq to ``comply with all the U.N. Security resolutions.''
	``As long as Iraq is ruled by Saddam Hussein we do not expect
compliance,'' Mack told delegates.


I am looking for software to run on my brand new Targa+ 16/32. If anyone knows
of any sites which have useful stuff, or if you have any yourself you want to
give, let me know via mail. Thanks a LOT! Yayayay!
                                     jamie@ddsw1.mcs.com


I've got a probelm with printing envelops on my deskjet 550C from Word
for Windows.

History: when I had a Deskjet 500, I had to modify the macro so that
it would disable reverse printing since there seemed to be a bug that
interferred with printing envelops.  That bug is still present, however...

Now: the problem I have is that my DeskJet 550 print driver (came with
the printer I bought in December) still wants to print the envelops in
PORTRAIT mode.  However, the DeskJet 550 feeds envelops the from the
narrow end (i.e. landscape mode).  How do I get the printer to print
the envelops in the correct orientation?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not post this to the net since:
    (a) due to end of the semester cruch, I can't keep up on these groups,
and (b) I will summarize the best answer(s) to the net anyhow!


1993 CALDER CUP PLAYOFF SCHEDULE AND RESULTS
home team in CAPS		*=if necesary
=============================================

FIRST ROUND
Springfield Indians vs Providence Bruins
Gm 1:	Springfield 3	PROVIDENCE 2
Gm 2:	Springfield 5	PROVIDENCE 4
Gm 3:	4/16	Providence at Springfield

CD Islanders vs Adirondack Red Wings
Gm 1:	Last night, CDI at Adirondack
Gm 2:	4/17	CDI at Adirondack
Gm 3:	4/18	Adirondack at CDI
Gm 4:	4/21	Adirondack at CDI
Gm 5:	4/23	CDI at Adirondack	*
Gm 6:	4/24	Adirondack at CDI	*
Gm 7:	4/26	CDI at Adirondack	*

Baltimore Skipjacks at Binghamton Rangers
Gm 1:	4/16	Baltimore at Binghamton
Gm 2:	4/17	Baltimore at Binghamton
Gm 3:	4/23	Binghamton at Baltimore
Gm 4:	4/24	Binghamton at Baltimore
Gm 5:	4/26	Baltimore at Binghamton	*
Gm 6:	4/28	Binghmaton at Baltimore	*
Gm 7:	4/30	Baltimore at Binghamton	*

Utica Devils vs Rochester Americans
Gm 1:	4/16	Utica at Rochester
Gm 2:	4/17	Utica at Rochester
Gm 3:	4/20	Rochester at Utica
Gm 4:	4/22	Rochester at Utica
Gm 5:	4/24	Utica at Rochester	*
Gm 6:	4/26	Rochester at Utica	*
Gm 7:	4/28	Utica at Rochester	*

Moncton Hawks vs St John's Maple Leafs
Gm 1:	St John's 4	Moncton 2
Gm 2:	4/17	Moncton vs St John's at Halifax
Gm 3:	4/21	St John's at Moncton

Cape Breton Oilers vs Fredericton Canadiens
Gm 1:	Fredericton 4	Cape Breton 3	(2OT)
Gm 2:	4/16	Cape Breton at Fredericton

Unfortunately the newspaper didnt list complete playoff skeds for
series that already began. Also, the paper has not listed final
standings so their posting might be delayed until early next
week (Hockey News).


Neil Gehrels is Prof. Tom Gehrels son.  Tom Gehrels was the discoverer
of P/Gehrels 3 (as well as about 4 other comets - the latest of which
does not bear his name, but rather the name "Spacewatch" since he was
observing with that system when he found the latest comet).

---------------------------------------------
Jim Scotti
{jscotti@lpl.arizona.edu}
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA


Can someone tell me whether or not any of the following medications
has been linked to rapid/excessive weight gain and/or a distorted
sense of taste or smell:  Hismanal; Azmacort (a topical steroid to
prevent asthma); Vancenase.


We have a user that has Word 5.0 and is using symbols such as pi and
other mathematic sysmbols, plus doing fractions, etc.

The document shows up on the screen with no problems, looks fine.

When she tries to print it on a IIg the pi changes to an upside down
caret, and several other symbols change to double quotes at bottom of
character, plus some little circles appear between words of the fractions
instead of spaces.

This happens on a IIg laser printer.  Tried it on serveral macs and two
different IIg's.

Prints fine on an NT and NTX laser printers.

What's wrong???

Thanks for any help in advance,

Gary

--

***************************************************************************

Gary Weis
University Computer Center
400 Hal Greer Boulevard
Huntington, West Virginia  25755-5320

Phone:  (304) 696-3205
Fax  :  (304) 696-3601

Internet:  Gary@marshall.wvnet.edu
Bitnet  :  Gary@marshall
UCC Net :  Gary


Is there any one know:

What is the FTP tool for Windows and where to get the tool ?

Thanks for any help !!


There's an article in Motorcycling a couple of months back specifically on
women's attire for serious and not-so-serious riding.  They do mention who
makes stuff specific for women's dimensions, and what also works OK enough as
well.  Bates will make custom jackets and leathers for a reasonable charge.
--


This is not the case: the ROM on the P9000 supports VESA modes of up to
1024x768 in 256 colors.  VESA-compliant applications should have no trouble
setting these modes. (But I'm forwarding your posting to our Software group,
just in case.  Can't be too careful.)  Not that I doubt that YOUR applications
are failing to run; lots of stuff depends on figuring out which exact SVGA
they're looking at, and don't use VESA calls (VESA is still pretty new).
Every new chip set confuses them.

I think we go to AT LEAST 76 Hz at 1024x768x8, and maybe more (and
it's a function of the RAMDAC speed, not the Power 9000). We need to
fix the problems you've noted (they were already on the list).  If
you're really interested, though, take a look at the text file
P9000RES.DAT, which holds the data from which the choices in the
P9000 monitor installation program are built.  Working by analogy,
you can build up a new monitor definition that has the right
combinations of refresh rates for your monitors.  Keep a backup copy
of the file!  Once you've built a new version of the P9000RES.DAT
file, run the P9000 installation program, INST, and your new choices
should show up.  (This assumes you have the WEITEK v. 2.2 drivers.
You can tell the rev number by looking at the modification time of
the driver: 02:20 is version 2.20.  Microsoft uses this gimmick,
too.)

The SPEEDY benchmark was put out by Hercules and IIT, who to my
knowledge were unencumbered by any motivations except making the
Hercules Graphite/IIT AGX014 card look really good.  So I'd take the
numbers with a ton of salt. (Texas Instruments did the same thing
with WINTACH, trying to make the 34020 look good compared to the
8514, as if anyone cared.)  It's safer (though not safe) to use
benchmarks from "unbiased" sources, such as testing labs, columnists,
etc.

I think you'll a large discrepancy between the results of SPEEDY and
the results of anything else in the universe on these things.

Font caching is a perfectly legitimate optimization -- Windows has
hooks for it built right into the GDI.  What's kind of silly is IIT's
use of a hardwired "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog then
sat on a tack" string in their driver.  Not only is it useless in
real applications, it lacks the programming elegance of the "Bart
Simpson optimization," in which you save the bitmap of the
most-recently drawn string in off-screen memory, and just do a
screen-to-screen bitblit if you happen to be given that same string a
second time in a row.  (We call it the "Bart Simpson optimization"
because Bart's the only person we can see benefiting from it: he
could right "I will not cheat on benchmarks" a hundred times and be
done in half the time it would take to actually form each character.)

We don't have any lawyers -- they're all working for Intel.  There
used to be a lawyer in Montana who didn't, but he died.

	-- Robert


Try xviewgl.
(filename xviewgl_v1.1.tar.Z on lots of bases)

- Ove


How many runs will be scored in Denver?
I don't know.

but some idea can be gotten by looking at the runs scored in
Mile High Stadium during the last few years of the Bears/Zephyrs
tenure in the American Association.

Here's the total runs scored per game in Zephyrs games,
all league games and the ratio. I found the same ratios for HR.

Year  rpg   lea  ratio  hrpg lea ratio
1992 10.22  9.10 1.12   1.65 1.58 1.04
1991  9.53  8.87 1.07   1.41 1.26 1.12
1990 10.71  8.72 1.23   1.49 1.24 1.20
1989  9.07  8.34 1.09   1.27 1.11 1.14
1988  9.90  8.37 1.18   1.29 1.08 1.19
1987 12.55 10.70 1.17   2.39 1.92 1.24
1986  9.45  9.33 1.01   1.35 1.38  .98
1985  9.50  8.54 1.11   1.53 1.34 1.14
1984  9.99  9.10 1.10   1.55 1.59  .97
1983 10.60  9.99 1.06   2.03 1.74 1.17
1982 11.29 10.35 1.09   2.24 1.91 1.17
1981 10.29  9.25 1.11   1.43 1.49  .96
1980 10.59  9.43 1.12   1.63 1.46 1.12
      1446/13-->1.11     1444/13-->1.11

It seems pretty clear that Denver will have a large effect
on runs scored (I'll stick with my prediction from last year
that it'll be one of the top 3 in the NL this year)
and a fairly large effect on Homeruns - though apparently not as large as
Atlanta, Wrigley, Cincinnati and San Diego.
Still it ought to be a pretty decent home run park.


Hello,

I am testing a port of X11R5 to Coherent, a unix clone OS for Intel architecture
machines.  I am seeing a strange problem with text in clients like xvt (a simple
terminal emulator program).

The problem manifests it self when the shell echoes typed characters back to the
server for display, one at a time.  The characters appear to be too closely
spaced, with the result being that the 2nd character echoed destroys the
rightmost edge of the first character, then the 3rd character destroys the
rightmost edge of the second character, and so on.  It looks like there is an
invisible boundary around a character which obscures a portion of the previous
character.  There is no problem between the characters when the shell returns
a complete line of text... only when the output is a series of individual
characters.

If anyone has any ideas what the problem might be, or where I should look to
find it, it would be much appreciated.

Regards and thanks, Jon Dhuse.


IF it were'nt for the sin of men, none of this killing would have been
necesarry, He is KIND and LOVING, but also RIGHTEOUS,
SIN MUST BE PUNISHED.

Before Jesus, man had to take the sins on himself.
But Jesus died and took it all upon Him, so now we also have a FORGIVING GOD.


Garrett, you are a really pathetic liar.

Some of your charges are arguable, but most of them are obvious lies.

I challenge you to present us with any evidence that Nixon stole,
rigged a national election, never mind elections, or used the powers
of his office for personal gain.

You can't because there is absolutely no evidence that any of these
events occurred.


Hi,
	I am looking for some help in choosing a package
for a high-speed silicon ADC (100Mhz) currently being
fabricated. This is a PhD research project and I have to test
the chip at speed on a PCB. I expect to have roughly 100
packaged circuits and will do DC, low-speed and high-speed
testing using 3 different set-ups for the test chip.

	I know for sure that a DIP will not work
(the long lead lines have too high an inductance).
Getting a custom-made package is too expensive, so
I am trying to choose between a flatpak and a
leadless chip carrier. The flatpack would be hard
to test since it has to be soldered on to the test
setup and I would spend loads of time soldering
as I kept changing the test chip. The leadless chip
carrier sockets also have long lead lines and may
not work at high speeds.

	Does anyone out there have experience/knowledge
of this field ? I would greatly appreciate help! Any ideas/
names of companies manufacturing holders/sockets/packages
would help.

P.S. The multi-layer fancy GaAs packages seem like a bit
of overkill(?)


I am looking for a math coprocessor for a 286-16mhz.
Should be a 80287-10 or 12.
I also have a 80387SX-16 for sale or trade.
TNX-

               Jim

 * 1st 1.10b #1439 * 1stReader: On the cutting edge of software evolution.


I like it a lot. It is worth the additional expense. The only problem I
found is with MS Word (5.1a). If you have a table the is longer than
a page and the cells have a visible border, the last (bottom of page)
line on the first page will be missing. It makes no difference how
the table is formatted. The worst is that it doesn't show up in word's
page view or page preview.
--

Arie.


Ya, Fat Chance.  The "offending" rider was a moto journalist.  Those
guys can sell hundreds of bikes with one stroke of the pen and
as such get away with murder when it comes to test bikes.

One way or the other, it was probably worth the early expiration of
one mufler to see a bone head get his butt baked.


( Below is my response to Dr. Denning's letter to Steven Bellovin. Comments
  are invited. - Paul )

In alt.privacy.clipper, Steve Bellovin posted your message to
him, which included a brief passage concerning selection of agencies
as escrow agencies.

I am glad to see that the proposal as written states that the escrow
agencies won't be law enforcement agencies. I would argue, however,
that *one* of the escrow agencies shouldn't be federal at all.

As a private citizen, I would feel much more "secure in my person and
papers" knowing that an organization committed to individual civil
liberties- the ACLU and the NRA come to mind- was safeguarding half of
my key. Both the ACLU and the NRA are resistent to government pressure
by the simple expedient fact that they are not supported, funded, or
overtly controlled by the government.

Of those federal and federally funded candidate agencies that you
mentioned, I have the following comments:

	- SRI, Rand, Mitre, and national labs: I agree that they have
        great experience safeguarding sensitive information. I am not
        convinced that they would adequately safeguard _this_
	information, since in any case requiring disclosure, there's
      	likely to be sigificant pressure for disclosure- possibly
 	*wrongful* disclosure.

	- GAO: perhaps. I would like to see more concrete evidence of
 	their fidelity and ability.

	- *TREASURY*? Surely you're joking. Perhaps you'd ask BATF
	to safeguard keys. Maybe the Federal Reserve would be a
	better choice.

Ever since last fall's "trial balloon" was posted in sci.crypt, your
name has been synonymous with those who place a great deal of trust in
the ability of government agencies and agents to act within the law.

I agree with you in part: those agencies and agents *almost always*
act properly. However, there have been enough cases where _sworn
agents of the Federal Government_ have acted wrongly to make me feel
that having two federal agencies as key repositories is unacceptable.

Respectfully,
-Paul Robichaux
 (not speaking for NTI, BCSS, or NASA)


[I am posting this for a friend whose news service is "fubared as usual".
 I will forward replies to him, or if you want to try to reply directly,
 try: Return-Path: <uunet!sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com!mcfar>    PR ]

I have an event handler working for a ButtonPressMask like:

  XtAddEventHandler( plot_data->display, ButtonPressMask, FALSE,
                    show_mouse_position, plot_data);

but I would like to be able to have two types of actions: one to occur
with the left mouse, the other the right, and perhaps one with the
middle.  So my event handler would look more like:

  XtAddEventHandler( plot_data->display, left-ButtonPressMask, FALSE,
                    show_left_mouse_position, plot_data);

  XtAddEventHandler( plot_data->display, right-ButtonPressMask, FALSE,
                    show_right_mouse_position, plot_data);

However I don't know how to make my left-ButtonPressMask.  There didn't seem
to be one in the event mask lists I had on hand (although Button1MotionMask
looked promising).  My references also mentioned using "|" to or two
mask events.  Can you  use "&" to and two masks?  Would I want to in this
case?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,


	I think I should also point out that the mystical DES engines
are known plaintext engines (unless you add a ton of really smart
hardware?)

	The 'plaintext' is digitized voice, and exists for a very short
time, probably in a couple inches of copper, tops. It's flatly not
available -- your bug in my office can hear my voice, and even digitize
it, but it's going to get a different bitstream.

	It is horribly naive to suppose that regular folks can figure
out how to crack skipjack, or clipper based telephones. I'm certainly
not devoting a great deal of thought to it.


It sounds like your TV is one of the ones that also reacts to the video
protection.  (Poor you!)

The Macroscrubber from Radio Electronics removes the protection so you
souldn't have any more problems.  However, if you use the method of
copying it from one VCR to another where the second VCR doesn't react to
the protection, you will end up with a duplicate tape, including the
protection.

One thought comes to mind about your problem...  When playing the tape
for viewing, are you feeding the signal from the source VCR through an
extra device before going to the TV?  If you feed it through a second VCR
first, that is your problem.  As to other devices such as converters, I
don't know if they would react or not.  Just to be safe, you might want
to make sure that you have NOTHING between the VCR and TV.


/(hudson)
/Yes you do.  Who is to say that it is immoral for onesself to experience
/pain or to be hurt in some other way.  Maybe unpleasant, but that doesn't
/say anything about morality.

It violates free will, Hudson.

(me)

/(hudson)
/Why is making someone a less productive member of society immoral?

Hudson, you are screwing up again.  Morality does not (I say again, DOES
NOT) define only "right and wrong".  It also defines "acceptable social
behavior", without any overtones of good and evil.  Picking up your trash
is not really a right/wrong moral issue in the eternal sense of Good
and Evil.  Yet it is moral in the sense that it is acceptable social
behavior".

Your definition of the word "morality" is what is causing you to trip over
yourself here.

/(me)
/And since
/>I, selfish being that I am, want to maximize my gains from society, I will
/>not do anything to another member of society if that action might cut down
/>on how much benefit I can derive from society.

/(hudson)
/Why is your benefit somehow related to morality.

Again, your definition is causing you to shoot yourself in the foot.

/(hudson)
/What about if someone feels that their own personal benefit is enhanced
/more than it would be damaged by depleting the overall resources of society?
/Maybe something might hurt society, but it would help him immensly?

That is irrational thinking.

There may also be people out there who think that death by atomic
destruction is  a sublime and wonderful thing. I am not going to let them
execute that idea just because they want to do it.

Simply because I let people make up their minds about what morals they
have doesn't prevent me from spotting and stopping a madman when I see
one, Hudson.  And even then, I will only stop him when he interferes
with me and my life.  That is the difference between me and you:  you
want to interfere in people's lives even when they aren't affecting
you.

/(hudson)
/The central character in Dostoevsky's novel, Crime and Punishment,
/(R something or other) reasoned that if killed this old Jewish woman and
/stole her money to educate and establish himself financially, he could
/make a great contribution to society.  He reasoned that she was not of
/much profit to society.  She just collected rents, and hoarded money.

One of the central points of any (that's ANY) moral system is that is
has to be internally consistent.

By killing her, the character had to accept the premise that the ends
justify the means.  If he accepted that premise, then (in order to be
consistent), he must accept the idea that some day another person may
apply the same standard to HIS life.  Now, if he is unwilling to accept
this premise (which he will not be willing to accept), then he has
behaved inconsistently with his own moral standard.

/(me)
/[football example deleted]

/(hudson)
/Now suppose a freshman on the bench will only get to play if one of the
/players in the field/on the court is injured (or killed.)  This freshman
/wants to play in the big game so a talent scout can see him.  If he hurts
/a player on the team, it might slightly lessen the chances of the team to
/win, but he might gain great personal benefit.  So, operating on purely
/selfish (immorally selfish) motives, he arranges for a sniper to shoot a
/team player in the leg.  He gets to play in front of the talent scout.

/Did that freshman behave morally?

/Selfish intentions may sometimes generate (apparently) moral actions, but
/not always.

Two problems right off the bat:

1.  The problem with your analogy is that it doesn't address the goal
that I started with:  winning the game.  Playing in front of the talent
scout != winning the game.  Try creating the same analogy and keep the
ultimate goal the same, will you?


G-d has nothing to do with it. Some of the land was in fact given to the
Jews by the United Nations, quite a bit of it was purchased from Arab
absentee landlords. Present claims are based on prior ownership (purchase
from aforementioned absentee landlords) award by the United Nations in the
partition of the Palestine mandate territory, and as the result of
defensive wars fought against the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, et al.

***
First, I should point out that many Jews do not in fact agree with the
idea that the West Bank is theirs. Since,  however, I agree with those who
claim the West Bank, I think I can answer your question thusly: the West
bank was what is called the spoils of war. Hussein ordered the Arab Legion
to attack Israel, which was a poor move, seeing as how the Israelis
promptly kicked his butt. The territory is therefore forefeit.  Retaining
possession of ALL of the West bank is  not desirable, but it beats
national suicide for the Israelis. Put another way, one could ask why it
is that so many Palestinians seem to think that Tel-Aviv belongs to them
and the future state of Palestine. As long as this state of affairs
continues, it seems that to give the Palestinians a place from which they
can launch attacks on Jews is a real poor idea. Giving up the entire West
Bank would be idiotic froma security standpoint.  In addition, there is
the small matter of Jerusalem, which is considered to be part of the West
Bank. The chances of the Israelis giving up Jerusalem are nil. Even
leftists who think Yasser is a really cool dude, like Yossi Sarid, aren't
going to propose giving up Jerusalem. If he did, he'd get run out of town
on a rail.


I participated in a promotion by a company called Visual Images.
I attempted to cancel my order before the package arrived. I was
not able to stop them and now I have a package which I do not need.

Nishika 3D camera, wide angle flesh, film, carring case, instruction
tapes, and some jewelrys.

3 vacation vouchers to Bahama, Cancun, Las Vegas, Orlando.

I paid $697 for the promotion package, and the vacation vouchers
came as gift. I really want to sell them, so make me an offer for
the whole package. If you are participating in a award, $697 is how
much you would end up paying. And I strongly believe that you would
get the same award as I do. If you are interested in those items,
you could get them from me for a cheaper price.

Let me know, and make me an offer. No flames please, I have got enough.

You could reach me at koutd@hirama.hiram.edu


Thanks for the info.  I assume that this is for MFC 1.0.  Does anyone
know if this will work with MFC 2.0, or what else needs to be done?
Thanks.


I noticed several years ago that when I took analgesics fairly regularly,
(motrin at the time), I seemed to get a lot of migraines.  But had
forgotten about that until I started reading some of the posts here.
I generally don't take NSAIDS or Tylenol for headaches, because I've
found them to be ineffective.  However, I have two other pain sources
that force me to take NSAIDS (currently Naprosyn).  First, is some
pelvic pain that I get at the beginning of my period, and then much
worse at midcycle.  I have had surgery for endometriosis in the past
(~12 years ago), so the Drs. tell me that my pain is probably due
to the endometriosis coming back.  I've tried Synarel, it reduced
the pain while I took it (3 mos), but the pain returned immediately
after I stopped.  Three doctors have suggested hysterectomy as the
only "real solution" to my problem.  Although I don't expect to have
any more children, I don't like the idea of having my uterus and
one remaining ovary removed (the first ovary was removed when I had
the surgery for endometriosis).  One of the Drs that suggested
I get a hysterectomy is an expert in laser surgery, but perhaps thinks
that type of procedure is only worthwhile on women who still plan
to have children.  So basically all I'm left with is toughing out
the pain.  This would be impossible without Naprosyn (or something
similar - but not aspirin, that doesn't work, and Motrin gave me
horrible gastritis a few years ago, so I'm through with it).  In
fact, Naprosyn works very well at eliminating the pain if I take
it regularly as I did when I had severe back pain (and pain in both
legs) as I'll discuss in a moment.  Generally though, I wait until
I have the pain before I take the Naprosyn, but then it takes
several hours for it reduce the pain (it's actually quite effective
at reducing the pain, it just takes quite a while).  In the meantime
I'm frequently in severe pain.

The other pain source I have is chronic lower back pain resulting in
bilateral radiculopathy.  I've had MRIs, Xrays, CT scan, and EMGs
(I've had 2 of them, and don't intend to ever do that again) with
nerve conduction tests.  The tests have not been conclusive as to
what is causing my back and leg pain.  The MRI reports both say I have
several bulging, degeneratig disks, and from the Xrays (and MRI, I think)
it is apparent that I have arthritis.  The reading on the CT scan
was that there are two herniations (L3-L4, and L4-L5), but others
hav looked at the films and concluded that there are no herniations.
The second EMG and nerve conduction studies shows significant denervation
compared to the first EMG.  Oh yeah, I had some other horrible test,
called something like Somatic Evoked Response which showed that the
"internal nerves" are working fine.   Anyway, the bottom line is that
I sometimes have severe pain in both legs and back pain.  The back pain
is there all the time, but I can live with it.  When the leg pain is there,
I need some analgesic/anti-inflammatory medication to reduce the pain
to a level where I can work.  So I took Naprosyn regulary for 6-9
months (every time I tried to stop the leg pain got worse, so I'd
always resume).  Since last November I have taken it much less frequently,
and primarily for the pelvic pain.  I have been going to physical
therapy for the last 8 months (2-3 times a week).  After the first month
or so, my therapist put me on pelvic traction (she had tried it earlier,
but it had caused a lot of pain in my back, this time she tried it at
a lower weight).  After a month or two, the pain in my legs began going
away (but the traction aways caused discomfort in my lower back, which
could be reduced with ultrasound and massage).  So now, I don't have
nearly as much pain in my legs, in fact my therapist took me off
traction about 2 weeks ago.

Getting back to my original reason for this post...  Even if I can avoid
taking analgesic for headaches, I really can't avoid them entirely because
I have other pain sources, that "force" me to use them (Oh, I forgot
to mention that it has been suggested to me that I have back surgery,
but I'm avoiding that too).  I find the migraines difficult to deal with,
occassionally I have to take off work, but usually I can work, but at
a reduced capacity (I'm a systems engineer and do a lot of reading
and writing).  When the pelvic pain is bad, I can't concentrate much,
I usually end up jumping out of my chair every few minutes, because
the pain is so bothersome.  When the pain in my back is bad, it can
cause severe burning in both legs, shooting pains in my legs, electric
shock type of pain in my feet and toes, and basically when it gets bad
I can't really sit at all.  Then I end up spending most of my time home
and in bed.  So even if the analgesics contribute to the migraines, the
migraines are more tolerable than the other pain sources.  I get a lot
of migraines, an average of 3 to 4 a month, which last 1-3 days.
I've taken cafergot (the first time the caffiene really got to me so
I reduced the dosage), but I don't like the side effects (if I take
more than two I get diahrea).  If I get a very bad headache, I will
eventually take the cafergot.  My neurologist wasn't very helpful when
I told him my problems with cafergot, he said that when sumatriptan
becomes available, I should try that.  I've tried several other medications
(fiornal, midrin, fiornal with codeine, tegretol, and inderal) but
they either didn't work, or I couldn't tolerate them.  So what can I do?
My doctor's seem to be satisfied with me just trying to tolerate the
pain, which I agree with most of the time, but not when I have a lot of
pain.  I've had some bad experiences with surgery (my heart stopped
once from the anesthesia - I was told that it was likely the
succinylcholine), and I've already had surgery several times.

Anyway, the point of what I'm saying is that even if analgesics can contribute
to migraines, some people NEED to take them to tolerate other pain.


* The Keenan hiring is precipitated by the loss of an anticipated $5M
in playoff revenue and fears of losing season ticket-holders (!), plus
Paramount chief Stan Jaffe's chip against the Flyers over l'Affaire
Lindros last autumn.  Add to this that Neilsen might return as an
assistant coach [Gerald, what'd I say earlier today??], and Roger
conferred with Jaffe on the hiring.  This hiring by Jaffe went over
the head of MSG, Inc. (Par. subsidiary) head Bob Gutkowski and over
the head and the protests of Pres./GM Neil Smith.

* MSG is making the announcement on Saturday to get back at the
Islanders for making the playoffs (i.e., steal the press).

* Flyers owner Ed Snyder is livid and beside himself over this.

* Keenan will make up to $900,000/yr.

* Gary Bettman has appointed an independent consul to look at
Gil Stein's admission into the Hall of Fame.

* New crease colours, rather than blue?

* The Oilers will charge to eat in the Press Room next year.

gld


The "face" is an accident of light and shadow.  There are many "faces" in
landforms on Earth; none is artificial (well, excluding Mount Rushmore and
the like...).  There is also a smiley face on Mars, and a Kermit The Frog.

The question of life in a more mundane sense -- bacteria or the like -- is
not quite closed, although the odds are against it, and the most that the
more orthodox exobiologists are hoping for now is fossils.

There are currently no particular plans to do any further searches for life.

Mars Observer, currently approaching Mars, will probably try to get a better
image or two of the "face" at some point.  It's not high priority; nobody
takes it very seriously.  The shadowed half of the face does not look very
face-like, so all it will take is one shot at a different sun angle to ruin
the illusion.


Ditto here too...


Last night during a Sharks' broadcast, Commissioner Bettman was
interviewed during the first intermission.  He made no bones about it,
the expansion to 28 is on permanent hold until he is satisfied that
the current allotment of 26 are fully stable.  This means that cities
looking for a club in the foreseeable future will have to wait until
one team in some location fails or looks to relocate.

This is good, IMO.  There's no sense in expanding if it only means
more failing franchises are in the mold.


    Hey,

        Does anyone know of an ftp site where I can get pkunzip2.04g from.
    I tried using archie with no such luck.  This version of pkunzip is suppose
    to correct some promblems when using pkunzip within windows.  Thanks in
    advance!  :-)


       I don't think we've got a conspiracy on our hands, or anything
vaugely similar.  I do think that the Feds showed a distinct lack of
both intelligence and disregard for others safety throughout this whole
mess.

       I do think the FBI and the BATF screwed up big.  What made me
really concerned was FBI director William Sessions being on CNN engaging
in what could only be called spin control before the place had even
cooled down.  Evertyhing had literally blown up in their faces and I felt
there had to be something more important he should have been doing...


If this is God's attitude, then I'll think I'll go along with
Terry Pratchett's religious philosophy:

"Oh, I believe in God. I just don't actually _like_ the blighter."

P.


==================
Let me see, "unless you have an accident, you won't need more", hmmmmmmm.


	As a stong self-defense advocate, you're 'statement', does littel
but irk me.  Of course shooting someone because they throw a rock at your
car is out of the question, but what if they disabled your car with their
rock and then wanted to come kill/rape/rob/beat/ or otherwise harm you,
your wife, kids?
	I think you would like the power to defend yourself in this situation,
wouldn't you?  Or is it that you value the lives of such rock throwers
more than your own or those of your family?
	Don't think it couldn't happen to you.  From the sounds of it here
it has happened to a few people.

	Please do not misunderstand.  The only justification for using
deadly force on someone, is that if you don't, it will mean your own
death or grave bodily harm.  I am far far away from supporting
vilante justice or anything like that..

	Oh, and if you mean to be funny, please add the appropriate :-)

Followups to talk.politics.guns please...  we're getting a bit off track
here....


I would e-mail this to you, but my mailserver doesn't recognize you or
something.

Anyway, the worst pitcher on the Yanks. If you mean currently on the team,
then I have to go with Scott "I'm a schizophrenic...No, I'm NOT!"
Kamienicki. Sure, occasionally the guy can pitch well for 5 or 6 innings,
but then he starts to go insane. A sure sign that he's losing his stuff
(and his mind) is when he starts to stalk around the mound between batters
and yell at himself.

The worst all-time Yanks pitcher?  Gotta go with Ed "New York? I have to
pitch in [gulp] New York?" Whitson. 'Nuff said!

--I'm outta here like Vladimir!
-Alan Sepinwall XVIII


What a great day! Got back home last night from some fantastic skiing
in Colorado, and put the battery back in the FXSTC. Cleaned the plugs,
opened up the petcock, waited a minute, hit the starter, and bingo it
started up like a charm! Spent a restless night anticipating the first
ride du saison, and off I went this morning to get my state inspection
done. Now my bike is stock (so far) except for HD slash-cut pipes, and
all went well with my New Hampshire State Inspection (meaning all my
lights worked OK) until the dude produces a decibel meter and tells me
about the new NH law about MC noise.....huh?  sez I....and he has me
start her up and rev to about 3000 rpm....I FAIL cuz I register 120 DB,
and the max allowed is 110! If I fail with these pipes, there are gonna
be a whole lotta seriously pissed off bikers round here when they go
for inspection.

*&%^*$%*^*%*&

But hey, its a new experience! I have never really felt like a menace
to society before! I parked, dismounted and walked in to my building
with a slight swagger to my step, and a narrow lidded look... I sensed
my faculty colleagues unease with my new intimidating status...and
women's glances seemed to linger just a little longer....or perhaps
that was my imagination.......*sigh*

Now I need to install my new BUB pipes and single fire ignition....I
wonder how I will do after that!?


    >It seems that conservatives are putting a lot of effort into
    >showing up the 10% figure, but that really doesn't make a
    >difference. Like I said, who cares how many there are? Would
    >the fact that they're only 1% of the population justify
    >discrimination against them? I don't think so.

Uh, well, Golly Gee Whiz. Let me see, when the new President, as his first
big "policy act" tries to force homosexuals (acceptance thereof) on the
military, despite polls showing a consistent 75%+ against it, and the
minority is only 1%, well, gee, I sure think that is newsworthy.

Tells you something about the fascist politics being practiced ....

--
There are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of
environmental disaster. Weird, eh?


being a mere female, I have often found I can't really take the big offensive line with asshole car drivers, so I found a more subtle and nastly
ooops I mean nasty way to get back at them. If somebody cuts you up, just wait till they have pulled out past you, and then gently lean over and
bend their aerial, every time I have done that it has eventually snapped
off near the base - which tends to go undetected for a while and is a bummer to replace.


I have a lot of CDs for sale.  Prices are $7 per CD and $3 per CD Single.
CDs are noted by (CD) and CD Singles by (CDS).  Please include $1 extra
per CD for s/h costs.  IF you want to buy a lot of them, then we'll work
out a deal with the shipping costs!

Type      Group                         Title
---------------------------------------------

CDS       Boys to Men                   Motown Philly
CDS       C & C Music Factory           Keep it Comin'
CDS       Moby                          Go (Remixes)
CDS       Quadrophonia                  Schizophrenia
CDS       Swing Out Sister              Not Gonna Change
CDS       Recoil                        Faith Healer
CDS       Seal                          The Beginning
CDS       Transvision Vamp              Tranvision Vamp
CDS       C & C Music Factory           Gonna Make U Sweat
CDS       Nitzer Ebb                    Godhead
CDS       Roxette                       How Do You Do!
CDS       B-52's                        Good Stuff
CDS       Duran Duran                   Violence of Summer
CDS       Nitzer Ebb                    AS IS
CDS       Vanessa Williams              Running Back to You
CD        Seal                          SEAL
CD        LFO                           Frequencies
CD        Morissey                      Kill Uncle
CD        Underworld                    Change the Weather
CD        Jody Watley                   You Wanna Dance With Me?
CD        Dead or Alive                 Fan the Flame
CD        Transvision Vamp              Velveteen
CD        Adam Ant                      Manners & Physique
CD        Fine Young Cannibals          The Raw & the Remix
CD        Black Box                     Dreamland
CD        Civilles & Cole               Greatest Remixes Vol. 1
CD        Black Box                     Mixed Up!
CD        Scorpions                     The Best of Rockers &
                                        Ballads
CD        A & M Underground Dance       Jam Harder


I just wanted to know:


[reply to keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)]

It would help if you (and anyone else asking for medical information on
some subject) could ask specific questions, as no one is likely to type
in a textbook chapter covering all aspects of the subject.  If you are
looking for a comprehensive review, ask your local hospital librarian.
Most are happy to help with a request of this sort.

Briefly, this is a condition in which patients who have significant
residual weakness from childhood polio notice progression of the
weakness as they get older.  One theory is that the remaining motor
neurons have to work harder and so die sooner.


Wanted restaurant equipment for starting a new restaurant

1) 4-6 Burner Stove
2) Hot Plate
3) Fryer
4) Stainless Steel tables, Shelves etc
5) Pots n Pans

and a number of other items

If interested, pl. email

Shailesh


Looking for hint book for indiana jones and the last crusade
the game is for the ibm.e-mail me or call 481 3740 and ask for orion.

  if you don't have the hint book but know how to answer these questions plao.


I have been convinced of the right of AMericans to an effective
self-defense, but something strikes me as odd among the
pro-RKBA arguments presented here.

The numbers comparing hundreds of thousands (indeed, even a
million) of instances of law abiding citizens deterring
criminal activity, seem valid to me.  Likewise the number
of gun-caused homicides each year (about 11,000/year?).  However,
it is surprising that the "Evil AntiGun Empire " (Darth Vader
breathing sound effect here) never tries to compare
"All legitimate gun defenses" vs. "All gun crimes."  Instead,
it's always "All legitimate gun defenses,"  which includes
cases in which the criminals are shot but not killed, and
cases in which the criminal is not here, vs. just
criminal gun homicides, which only includes case sin which
the victim died.

Why is this?  Of course, it wouldn't be unreasonable to say
that in each crime already measured (involving guns), the
consequnces are already known and it is safe to assume that
a gun-based bank robbery last week will not suddenly turn
into a gun-basd robbery+homicide.  Whereas in the legitimate
gun defenses, one may assume that all those criminals who
were deterred would have committed more crime or more
serious crimes had they not been deterred.

-Case Kim


There is a very narrow margin of stupidity between accepting my references and
those of the Greeks, and you just said you'd rather do the latter! That's fine
with me. I was sincere in my offer, but this saves me the effort. It doesn't
take a half-brained man to go to any library and check out a bunch of sources
of decent objectivity. Just ask a good friend for help. !:-)

"Stay on these roads,"

Onur Yalcin
--
Onur Yalcin
oyalcin@iastate.edu


Actually, this is incorrect.  French resistance may have played some
part in hindering the German war effort, however the crucial role was
supplied on D-Day.

Interesting statement.  Especially when you consider that Lebanon
had claimed to have made progress in the peace talks, as well as
Israel.  Of course, one of the prime obstacles to Israel's complete
withdrawal is the lack of governmental control that can be applied
to the area as well as the large presence of Syrian forces which
have not been asked to withdraw as well.


	Doug> NNTP-Posting-Host: se05.wg2.waii.com
I  am  having  a  big problem trying to build MIT X11R5 with xlc 1.2.1
(the  one  bundled  with  AIX  3.2.3e).   Its almost the linker is not
working properly with shared libraries.

I've built X11R5 with no problem before .. but now its all  headaches.
For example, the xset client complains that libXmu doesnt have a bunch
of Xt routines and shr.o is missing (or  something  like  that).   The
build of libXmu DOES link in libXt  so I am really perplexed  what  is
going on.

....following up on this, the specific error I get is:
Could not load program ./xset
Symbol XtVaSetValues in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtName in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtWindowOfObject in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtGetConstraintResourceList in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtDisplayToApplicationContext in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtAppSetTypeConverter in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtScreenDatabase in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtResolvePathname in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtCvtStringToFont in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtCallConverter in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Symbol XtDisplayStringConversionWarning in ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.a is undefined
Could not load library libXmu.a[shr.o]
Error was: Exec format error


Any prize like this is going to need to be worded carefully enough that
you cannot get it without demonstrating sustained and reliable capability,
rather than a lucky one-shot.  It can be done.


Hi,

	I have a Humminbird HDR200 Depth Sounder for sale. It
has been used for 1 season on my sailboat.

	All parts are included as well as the installation
instructions. It is even packed in the original box it came in. There
is no damage to the unit or the transducer. In fact, the transducer
was mounted *inside* the hull in a piece of pipe glued to the hull.
So it led a "sheltered" life. The transducer can be mounted either inside
the hull as I did, or on the transom. It cannot be placed in a hole
drilled into your hull.

	It is fully waterproof and fits into a 2" hole in a bulkhead
(that's where I had it installed) or into a standard dashboard on a
powerboat. It reads depth to 199' and has a backlit LCD display. It has
an adjustable shallow water alarm built in.

	I am changing out my instruments to another manufacturer that
outputs the NMEA 0183 information. This little depth sounder works fine
and is very stable.

	It is usually priced as low as 130$ in some catalogs, I paid 150$.

	The first 80$ takes it, or best offer.

				John R. Miller


hmm... not that I am an authority on RISC ;-) but I clearly remember
reading that the instruction set on RISC CPUs is rather large.
The difference is in addressing modes - RISC instruction sets are not
as orthogonal is CISC.


In  <1qvos8$r78@cl.msu.>, vergolin@euler.lbs.msu.edu (David Vergolini) writes...

There's quite a few Wings fans lurking about here, they just tend
to be low key and thoughtful rather than woofers.  I suppose every
family must have a Roger Clinton, though.  But remember (to paraphrase
one of my favorite Star Trek lines), "if we adopt the ways of the Leaf
fans, we are as bad as the Leaf fans".

Ron


In the discussion as to why Jesus spoke aloud the "Lazarus, come out",
I'm surprised that no one has noticed the verse immediately preceeding.

Jn 12:41  "Father, I thank you for listening to me, though I knew that
you always listen to me.  But I have said this for the sake of the
people that are standing around me that they may believe that you have
made my your messenger."  (Goodspeed translation)

My guess is that the "Lazarus, come out!" was also for the sake of the
crowd.


I have posted the logos of the NL East teams to alt.binaries.pictures.misc
 Hopefully, I'll finish the series up next week with the NL West.

 Darren


Tammy, is this all explicitly stated in the bible, or do you assume
that you know that Ezekiel indirectly mentioned? It could have been
another metaphor, for instance Ezekiel was mad at his landlord, so he
talked about him when he wrote about the prince of Tyre.

Sorry, but my interpretation is more mundane, Ezekiel wrote about
the prince of Tyre when we wrote about the prince of Tyre.

Cheers,
Kent


[...]

I don't know about classified, but I do seem to remember that unless
you're authorized by the Govt, it's illegal to TEMPEST-shield your
equipment.  Besides, effective TEMPEST-shielding is much more
difficult than you might think (hi Jim!).

	RA

rogue@cs.neu.edu (Rogue Agent/SoD!)


It's like refusing 'God's kingdom come'.

In one of Jesus' revelation in this century, "...same thing as in
the old days.  People refuse to believe my messengers.  Even when
I was alive here on earth, they refuse Me.  What more when I am just
talking through somebody else?" (paraphrased).

With all the knowledge believers accumulated, He would think that
we would be 'enlightened' enough to detect which ones are
'authentic and divine' as opposed to 'evil or man-made'.

These signs, these miracles, are you afraid that they are not from God?
That these are the signs we should not open our hearts and mind to for thinking
  they are evil?
Well, is faith in God evil?
Is true peace evil?  Is true love that is divine and pure evil?
Why can't someone accept that God can do what He wants in fulfillment of His
  generous love and Jesus' never ending forgiveness to those who turn back to
  Him for salvation?
Why are we refusing God's messenger of this truth?  The mother to all who are
  in Christ?
What brings us these:
    fears of being shamed by what others will think or say about us?
        which, in contrary, could be pleasing to God?
    fears of being humbled?
    fears of being judged as wrong (wrt mainstream standard of what is right)?
Why can't we tolerate non-believers' mockery or ridicule of us for the
  sake of peace, love and obedience to God?  The humbling lessons left to us
  by martyrs and saints?
We'd rather engage in never-ending bickering and disproof of each other's
  opinion - looking at each other's mistakes - for the sake of arguments,
  instead of having communion in one body with Christ.
What makes us go blind to the truth that God is All Powerful and that He can
  not be binded by what people wrote and have written about Him in all ages?
Why is our faith in God limited?  By all the words and literature we muster?
What prevents us from going *beyond* being saved and extend God's rich love
  to others who are not?

Why are our eyes not wide open to see that He continuously sees our faith, hope
  and love which glorify Him and so He gives us indications of His
  acknowledgements with signs/miracles (ordinary/common or divinely inspired)
  everywhere?  Isn't that like an atheist/agnostic's view that all these
  are just ordinary here on earth and not caused by anything supernatural?

Why then does the Holy Mother comes back to remind us:
  "We must really __accept that prayer__ changes the course of things and that
  with prayers __even wars can be prevented__."
but then she continues:
  "You often have an egotistic attitude.  Dear children, in these days you
  have prayed very much, __but your hands have remained empty__."
Why hesitate in proclaiming what needs to be done:
  "prayer, conversion, peace, penance, fasting, the Holy Mass, living life
  as what the Gospel brings."?
Why not do so?  How?  To the world?
  "Start in your family.  Be a good example.  Live the Word."
Why worry if it is going to be of good use to many?
  "The fruits, __leave them to the Lord__, do not worry about anything or
  anyone but entrust yourself to the Lord."

Although the Holy Mother does not insist because:
  "You are free; I bow before the freedom which God gives you."
but she follows this with:
  "You are surprised because I say to you: Decide for God and yet, see how
  you have lived this day."
Why does she constantly conveys:
  "Take this life toward God in the way as to __experience__ the Lord Himself
  in your __behavior__ and __not only__ when you pray" or one time when we
  decide that we are saved, or talk/write about God, etc.
The Holy Mother warns:
  "Satan (the serpent) is always trying to dissuade you to turn you away from
  my peace plan and prayer."  (Rev 12:17, the dragon became angry with the woman
  and went off to wage war against the rest of her offsprings, those who keep
  God's commandments, and bear witness to Jesus.)

Do you have fear or hate for God's current messenger of true peace, love and
  our motherly protector from the anti-Christ?
The one who is being apprehensive of communism, wars, famine and other evils
  that the serpent brings upon us?
This obedient and blessed new Eve?
The mother who warns us so we can be prepared and be strong against Satan?
Haven't there been renewed faith, hope, love, peace and obedience wherever
  this messenger has shared her blessings and graces that God has given her
  in good purpose?
Why do we choose to be blind?
Why fear the truth that God has been giving us a chance and sharing Christ's
  ever-forgetting forgiveness to us through the obedient mother?
The mother who has been consecrated the task __to reverse__ the disobedient
  harm and example done by the ancient Eve.
She has been preparing the new Eden with her Immaculate Heart.
The new Eden as sanctuary (the womb) for the next coming and judgement of the
  righteous by our Lord, Jesus Christ; when The Lamb marries His bride.
Shouldn't we give her a hand in her exhaustive job of preparing us for the
  second coming of her Son as she has been conceived without sin to bear
  the Son of God in her womb?
Why fear true peace, love and renewed faith and obedience to God that Mary
  faithfully brings to God's children?  She has been protecting the flock
  (the rest of the offsprings) from the greedy dragon so as to present more
  righteous members for her Son's coming.
Not all apparitions and miracles that resulted from them are worthy
  of belief.  With prayer and guidance from the Holy Spirit and, of course,
  approval of our Church authorities, we should be aware of the true and
  divinely inspired ones; specifically, the ones which aligns with the
  Scripture.

Also, our Lady reminds us of recommendation of __silence__ in our prayers:
  "If you speak unceasingly in your prayers, how will you be able to hear
  God?  Allow Him room to answer you, to speak to you."

She encourages us (with motherly nurturing) to continue in exuberant
faith, hope and love to Jesus, constantly.  NOT with mere emotions,
but with deep, constant obedience to Jesus, her Beloved Son and
acknowledgement of our need to have Him as part of our lives.

Let's not wait to the last minute to renew our faith and the life
that God wants us to live; when there won't be enough time or when
it will be late.

Nowadays, Mary says,
"Pray, pray, pray for peace...reconciliation, my children."
Have peace within yourself first before you can promote peace to
others.  For without peace, you can not fully accept my Son."

And you think she's just an ordinary lady.  Not to me.  She's
our good Mother/messenger from God and she is so nice enough to
share God's kingdom to us through her Son and experience it.

With Mary, we are assured that The Lamb always succeeds.

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Note:  All enclosed in quotes are from "Latest News of Medjugorje"
       Number 10, June, 1991 by Fr. Rene' Laurentin.

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