I posted a similar query and got these replies which I am testing (so far so
good)..

* turn hardware scrolling off before going into windows (24xmode scrolloff)

* in the pif file for dos window, set "emulate text mode"

* get the latest drivers from the DiamoND BBS (or cica): dates are 1-20-9.


Hi Netters!

I am looking for the list of universities in Austrailia, which has electronics department.
I am considering to spend a year for research in Austrailia about communication area.ýé I am interested in Mobile communication areas and spread spectrum communications etc.
But I don't have any information about Austrailian Universities.
Can anybody recommend a good university in coûßmmunic÷³ation area?
Any comments will be welcomed!

Bye.


Most likely the tragic situation in Bosnia is a combination of ethnical
and religious motives, where religion is just one attribute that separates
the groups from each other.

But I must agree that the sad saga in Bosnia is a terrible example
of a case where religion is not helping, instead it is used as a weapon
against other humans. And my sympathies are mostly on the Bosnian side,
it looks like the Serbs are the oppressors, willing to use even
Christianity as a weapon against their former friends.

Cheers,
Kent


Excuse me but I do know what I safety is supposed to do.  It's basic purpose -
not to let the gun fire until you're ready.  Christ, I've known that since I
had my first Crosman air gun.  You don't know me so don't make assumptions
about what I know and don't know.  I do know that the Glock has multiple
safties from reports, looking at them at a gun shop, and friends who own one.

From the things I have read/heard Glocks are always knocked because of the
trigger safety.  They are supposedly harder to learn to use properly.  Every
article that I have read can't be wrong about the damn thing.  And don't ask
me to quote my sources because I don't keep a ton of gun magazines and/or
rec.guns articles laying around.  Boy, you can't make a simple statement on
here without someone getting right on your ass.  No wonder why there are so
many problems in the world.  Everyone takes everything just a little too
seriously.  By the way,  I'm not going to reply to any of this stuff anymore as
someone made the good point that this discussion is getting too close to r.g
(And yes I know that I had something to do with that).


NUT CASE PANICS!!!!JUMPS THE GUN ON THE NET BEFORE GETTING FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!


I'd like to see you use this method on a couple of semi drivers. If they see you,
they usually acknowledge by sticking their hand out the window with their middle
finger extended. Because it is also obvious to them that there is no clear lane
ahead.


I too would be interested in ANY information on the subject of programing
PALS etc.....

  Better to know what your on about before you start something, I always
say. Often saves you a packet as well !!

Thanks in advance..

Chris ;-)

  +====================================================================+
  |Name : Mr Chris Smith       |     Twang on that 'ole guitar !       |
  |Addrs: scst83@uk.ac.liv     |                                       |
  |Uni  : Liverpool University |Quest: To build more and more hardware |
  |Dgree: Computer Science     |                                       |
  +====================================================================+

 "What ever the Sun may be, it is certainly not a ball of flaming gas!"
  -- D.H. Lawrence.


Archive-name: space/addresses
Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:38:55 $

CONTACTING NASA, ESA, AND OTHER SPACE AGENCIES/COMPANIES

Many space activities center around large Government or International
Bureaucracies.	In the US that means NASA.  If you have basic information
requests: (e.g., general PR info, research grants, data, limited tours, and
ESPECIALLY SUMMER EMPLOYMENT (typically resumes should be ready by Jan.  1),
etc.), consider contacting the nearest NASA Center to answer your questions.

EMail typically will not get you any where, computers are used by
investigators, not PR people. The typical volume of mail per Center is a
multiple of 10,000 letters a day. Seek the Public Information Office at one
of the below, this is their job:

NASA (The National Aeronautics and Space Administration) is the
civilian space agency of of the United States Federal Government.
It reports directly to the White House and is not a Cabinet
post such as the military Department of Defense.  Its 20K+ employees
are civil servants and hence US citizens.  Another 100K+ contractors
also work for NASA.

NASA CENTERS

    NASA Headquarters (NASA HQ)
    Washington DC 20546
    (202)-358-1600

	Ask them questions about policy, money, and things of political
	nature. Direct specific questions to the appropriate center.

    NASA Ames Research Center (ARC)
    Moffett Field, CA 94035
    (415)-694-5091

	Some aeronautical research, atmosphere reentry, Mars and Venus
	planetary atmospheres. "Lead center" for Helicopter research,
	V/STOL, etc. Runs Pioneer series of space probes.

    NASA Ames Research Center
    Dryden Flight Research Facility [DFRF]
    P. O. Box 273
    Edwards, CA  93523
    (805)-258-8381

	Aircraft, mostly. Tested the shuttle orbiter landing
	characteristics. Developed X-1, D-558, X-3, X-4, X-5, XB-70, and of
	course, the X-15.

    NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC)
    Greenbelt, MD 20771
    [Outside of Washington DC]
    (301)-344-6255

	Earth orbiting unmanned satellites and sounding rockets. Developed
	LANDSAT.

    Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)
    California Institute of Technology
    4800 Oak Grove Dr.
    Pasadena, CA 91109
    (818)-354-5011

	The "heavies" in planetary research probes and other unmanned
	projects (they also had a lot to do with IRAS). They run Voyager,
	Magellan, Galileo, and will run Cassini, CRAF, etc. etc.. For
	images, probe navigation, and other info about unmanned exploration,
	this is the place to go.

	JPL is run under contract for NASA by the nearby California
	Institute of Technology, unlike the NASA centers above. This
	distinction is subtle but critical. JPL has different requirements
	for unsolicited research proposals and summer hires. For instance in
	the latter, an SF 171 is useless. Employees are Caltech employees,
	contractors, and for the most part have similar responsibilities.
	They offer an alternative to funding after other NASA Centers.

	A fact sheet and description of JPL is available by anonymous
	FTP in

	    ames.arc.nasa.gov:pub/SPACE/FAQ/JPLDescription

    NASA Johnson Manned Space Center (JSC)
    Houston, TX 77058
    (713)-483-5111

	JSC manages Space Shuttle, ground control of manned missions.
	Astronaut training. Manned mission simulators.

    NASA Kennedy Space Flight Center (KSC)
    Titusville, FL 32899
    (407)-867-2468

	Space launch center. You know this one.

    NASA Langley Research Center (LaRC)
    Hampton, VA 23665
    [Near Newport News, VA]
    (804)-865-2935

	Original NASA site. Specializes in theoretical and experimental
	flight dynamics. Viking. Long Duration Exposure Facility.

    NASA Lewis Research Center (LeRC)
    21000 Brookpark Rd.
    Cleveland, OH 44135
    (216)-433-4000

	Aircraft/Rocket propulsion. Space power generation. Materials
	research.

    NASA Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC)
    Huntsville, AL 35812
    (205)-453-0034

	Development, production, delivery of Solid Rocket Boosters, External
	Tank, Orbiter main engines. Propulsion and launchers.

    Michoud Assembly Facility
    Orleans Parish
    New Orleans, LA 70129
    (504)-255-2601

	Shuttle external tanks are produced here; formerly Michoud produced
	first stages for the Saturn V.

    Stennis Space Center
    Bay St. Louis, Mississippi 39529
    (601)-688-3341

	Space Shuttle main engines are tested here, as were Saturn V first
	and second stages. The center also does remote-sensing and
	technology-transfer research.

    Wallops Flight Center
    Wallops Island, VA 23337
    (804)824-3411
	    Aeronautical research, sounding rockets, Scout launcher.

    Manager, Technology Utilization Office
    NASA Scientific and Technical Information Facility
    Post Office Box 8757
    Baltimore, Maryland 21240

    Specific requests for software must go thru COSMIC at the Univ. of
    Georgia, NASA's contracted software redistribution service. You can
    reach them at cosmic@uga.bitnet.

    NOTE: Foreign nationals requesting information must go through their
    Embassies in Washington DC. These are facilities of the US Government
    and are regarded with some degree of economic sensitivity. Centers
    cannot directly return information without high Center approval. Allow
    at least 1 month for clearance. This includes COSMIC.

The US Air Force Space Command can be contacted thru the Pentagon along with
    other Department of Defense offices. They have unacknowledged offices in
    Los Angeles, Sunnyvale, Colorado Springs, and other locations. They have
    a budget which rivals NASA in size.

ARIANESPACE HEADQUARTERS
    Boulevard de l'Europe
    B.P. 177
    91006 Evry Cedex
    France

ARIANESPACE, INC.
    1747 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Suite 875
    Washington, DC 20006
    (202)-728-9075

EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY (ESA)
    955 L'Enfant Plaza S.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20024
    (202)-488-4158

NATIONAL SPACE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY (NASDA)
    4-1 Hamamatsu-Cho, 2 Chome
    Minato-Ku, Tokyo 105, JAPAN

SOYUZKARTA
    45 Vologradsij Pr.
    Moscow 109125
    USSR

SPACE CAMP
    Alabama Space and Rocket Center	U.S. SPACE CAMP
    1 Tranquility Base			6225 Vectorspace Blvd
    Huntsville, AL 35805		Titusville FL  32780
    (205)-837-3400			(407)267-3184

    Registration and mailing list are handled through Huntsville -- both
    camps are described in the same brochure.

    Programs offered at Space Camp are:

	Space Camp - one week, youngsters completing grades 4-6
	Space Academy I - one week, grades 7-9
	Aviation Challenge - one week high school program, grades 9-11
	Space Academy II - 8 days, college accredited, grades 10-12
	Adult Program - 3 days (editorial comment: it's great!)
	Teachers Program - 5 days

SPACE COMMERCE CORPORATION (U.S. agent for Soviet launch services)
    504 Pluto Drive		    69th flr, Texas Commerce Tower
    Colorado Springs, CO 80906	    Houston, TX 77002
    (719)-578-5490		    (713)-227-9000

SPACEHAB
    600 Maryland Avenue, SW
    Suite 201 West
    Washington, DC 20004
    (202)-488-3483

SPOT IMAGE CORPORATION
    1857 Preston White Drive,
    Reston, VA 22091
    (FAX) (703)-648-1813    (703)-620-2200

OTHER COMMERCIAL SPACE BUSINESSES

    Vincent Cate maintains a list with addresses and some info for a variety
of companies in space-related businesses. This is mailed out on the
space-investors list he runs (see the "Network Resources" FAQ) and is also
available by anonymous ftp from furmint.nectar.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.209.111) in
/usr/vac/ftp/space-companies.


And doubtless, when an atheist does an act of charity
they temporarily become a Baptist.


Quoting strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) in article <strnlghtC5t3nH.Is1@netcom.com>:


ON the subject of how many competing RC orders there are, let me point out the
Golden Dawn is only the *outer* order of that tradition.  The inner order is
the Roseae Rubeae et Aurae Crucis.  That's Ruby Rose and Gold Cross, in rough
translation.  The G.'.D.'. is a Rosicrucian order, as are all derivative
groups.  Of course, real Rosicrucians never admit to being Rosicrucian.

Enjoy the journey!
                      --Br'anArthur
                                      Queer, Peculiar, and Wyrd! :-)


 > > :has 2^80 possible keys.
 > >
 > > We don't yet know if all 80 bits count.
 >
 > That doesn't worry me at all; they're not going to cheat at something
 >they can get caught at.  And key size is one of the things that can be
 >verified externally.  Feed lots of random key/input pairs into the
 >chip, then see what happens to the output....


The RS6000 compiler is so forgiving, I think that if you mixed COBOL & pascal
the C compiler still wouldn't complain. :-)

Steve
--


The General Chairman is Paul Bialla, who is some official of General
Dynamics.

The emphasis seems to be on a scaled-down, fast plan to put *people*
on the Moon in an impoverished spaceflight-funding climate. You'd
think it would be a golden opportunity to do lots of precusor work for
modest money using an agressive series of robot spacecraft, but
there's not a hint of this in the brochure.

You're not hanging out with the Right People, apparently.


I also use IRQ 5.  But there is one disadvantage.  Some games assume that
the board is using IRQ 7 and have no way to adjust this setting.  I had
trouble with some of the Lucas Films games.
--


He sounds really cute, Morte!  Kinds like _pete's dragon_, maybe smaller,
maybe a different species.. winge'd?  (shakespear wing-ED)

I've always hat a horde of mice to turn to for fun & sort of that kind of
mouse in Cinderella (walt disney).  I grew up sort of as an only child,
part time.. my siblings were 10-8-6 years older than me, so i was pretty
commonly a different sort of charater in their games (read: non speaking
hot cocoa-goffer, stand in (still silent) bad guy/good guy/etc), so my
mice were playmates, more than advisors.

Could curt, or whomever has a good list of books please post such list,
in all sorts of fields, like jungian, condensed buddist/etc philosophies,
multiple personailty disorders, or good fiction that has well worked
imaginary friends?


You write as if no-one ever became a Christian except people from
Christian families.  This is not true, as quite a few people on this
group can attest (including me).


Ahhh, remember the days of Yesterday?  When we were only
	going to pay $17 / month?

	When only 1.2% of the population would pay extra taxes?

	Remember when a few of us predicted that it wasn't true?  :)
	Remember the Inaugural?   Dancing and Singing!  Liberation
	at last!

	Well, figure *this* out:

	5% VAT, estimated to raise $60-100 Billion per year ( on CNN )
	Work it out, chum...

	     $60,000,000,000  /  125,000,000 taxpayers = $480 / year

        But, you exclaim, " I'll get FREE HEALTH CARE! "
	But, I exclaim, " No, you won't! "

	This is only for that poor 37 million who have none.  Not for
	YOU, chum. :)  That comes LATER.

	Add in the estimates of the energy tax costs - $300-500 / year

	Plus, all that extra "corporate and rich" taxes that will
	trickle down, and what do you have?

	$1,000 / year, just like I said two months ago.

	And, the best part?   You don't GET ANYTHING for it.

	Deficit is STILL projected to rise at same rate it's  been
	rising at, by CLINTON'S OWN ESTIMATES.  And this assumes that
	his plan WILL WORK!

	I mean, come on, it doesn't take a ROCKET SCIENTIST to see
	that in another 2 or 3 years, we're GETTING ANOTHER WHOPPING
	TAX INCREASE, because the deficit will STILL be GROWING
	FASTER THAN the ECONOMY.

	All Clinton is doing, is moving us to a HIGHER diving board.

        Face it.  Clinton is Bush X 2.  In four more years, our
	country will be completely bankrupt, and your children's
	future, so oft mentioned by Pal Bill, will be gone.

	And those of you still deluding yourselves will be faced
	with the guilt.

	Well, <glancing at watch>, gotta go.  I want to be out of
	here by noon.  Got an appointment at the lake.  No tax
	there, yet.


Normally I'd be the last to argue with Steve . . . but shouldn't that
read "3.8 years for *all* solutions".  I mean, if we can imagine the
machine that does 1 trial/nanosecond, we can imagine the storage medium
that could index and archive it.


In this case would the switch control voltages be -7V to turn the switch
off and >0V to turn the switch on?


Lets hope. Years ago a Telecom tech refused to tap a line unless he saw the
warrant. The managment type who told him to do it fired him. The appeal
against the dismissal was lost.

Good luck.


Didn't Paul write that if the Resurrection is not true, we are the
biggest fools of all?  However, whether you believe in Christ or not,
His teachings (e.g. love your brotherman as yourself), even if only
followed at a secular level, could do a great deal to alleviate some of
the problems we see today in the world.  Even when I was a rabid atheist
I couldn't deny that.


I need information on the Display PostScript strokeadjust feature.
This feature adjusts the endpoints of lines so that the displayed line
looks better on low resolution devices.

The PostScript literature explains the process to some extent.  They
also give an example of how to "emulate" strokeadjust in PostScript
environments where it is absent.

The suggested emulation is to modify the coordinates of the endpoints
of a line using the following formula for each coordinate:

	new_coord = (round (old_coord - 0.25)) + 0.25

Doing this we end up with all coordinates ending in ".25".  From
reading I thought that what they might actually do is:

	new_coord = ((trunc (old_coord * 2)) / 2) + 0.25

This results in all the coordinates ending in either "0.25" or "0.75"
whichever is closer.

By doing some actual comparisons with Display PostScript, I find that
neither of these is what DPS really uses.  Since I like how the DPS
result looks better than how my stuff looks, I'd like to know if
anyone who knows how DPS does it is willing/able to tell me.

Thanks,


Can a theist be truly objective?  Can he be impartial
     when questioning the truth of his scriptures, or
     will he assume the superstition of his parents
     when questioning?

I've often found it to be the case that the theist
     will stick to some kind of superstition when
     wondering about God and his scriptures.  I've
     seen it in the Christian, the Jew, the Muslim,
     and the other theists alike.  All assume that
     their mothers and fathers were right in the
     aspect that a god exists, and with that belief
     search for their god.

Occasionally, the theist may switch religions or
     aspects of the same religion, but overall the
     majority keep to the belief that some "Creator"
     was behind the universe's existence.  I've
     known Muslims who were once Christians and vice
     versa, I've known Christians who were once
     Jewish and vice versa, and I've even known
     Christians who become Hindu.  Yet, throughout
     their transition from one faith to another,
     they've kept this belief in some form of higher
     "being."  Why?

It usually all has to do with how the child is
     brought up.  From the time he is born, the
     theist is brought up with the notion of the
     "truth" of some kind of scripture-- the Bible,
     the Torah, the Qur'an, & etc.  He is told
     of this wondrous God who wrote (or inspired)
     the scripture, of the prophets talked about in
     the scripture, of the miracles performed, & etc.
     He is also told that to question this (as
     children are apt to do) is a sin, a crime
     against God, and to lose belief in the scrip-
     ture's truth is to damn one's soul to Hell.
     Thus, by the time he is able to read the
     scripture for himself, the belief in its "truth"
     is so ingrained in his mind it all seems a
     matter of course.

But it doesn't stop there.  Once the child is able
     to read for himself, there is an endeavor to
     inculcate the child the "right" readings of
     scripture, to concentrate more on the pleasant
     readings, to gloss over the worse ones, and to
     explain away the unexplainable with "mystery."
     Circular arguments, "self-evdent" facts and
     "truths," unreasoning belief, and fear of
     hell is the meat of religion the child must eat
     of every day.  To doubt, of course, means wrath
     of some sort, and the child must learn to put
     away his brain when the matter concerns God.
     All of this has some considerable effect on the
     child, so that when he becomes an adult, the
     superstitions he's been taught are nearly
     impossible to remove.

All of this leads me to ask whether the theist can
     truly be objective when questioning God, Hell,
     Heaven, the angels, souls, and all of the rest.
     Can he, for a moment, put aside this notion that
     God *does* exist and look at everything from
     a unbiased point of view?  Obviously, most
     theists can somewhat, especially when presented
     with "mythical gods" (Homeric, Roman, Egyptian,
     & etc.).  But can they put aside the assumption
     of God's existence and question it impartially?

Stephen

    _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/   _/       _/    * Atheist
   _/        _/    _/   _/ _/ _/ _/     * Libertarian
  _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/   _/   _/  _/      * Pro-individuality
       _/  _/     _/  _/       _/       * Pro-responsibility
_/_/_/_/  _/      _/ _/       _/ Jr.    * and all that jazz...

--


nsmca> So some of my ideas are a bit odd, off the wall and such, but
nsmca> so was Wilbur and Orville Wright, and quite a few others..

This is a common misconception.  There was nothing "off the wall"
about the Wright Brothers.  They were in correspondance with a number
of other experimenters (Octave Chanute, Lillienthal, etc), they flew
models, they had a wind tunnel.  In short, they were quite mainstream
and were not regarded as odd or eccentric by the community.

I suggest you read The Bishop's Boys or the biography by Harry Gates?
Combs?  (I can never remember which it is--the guy that had the FBOs
and owned Learjet for a while).  These are both in print and easily
obtainable.  The Bishop's Boys is in trade paperback, even.

Even better would be the multi-volume set of the Wrights' writings,
but this is out of print, rare, and hideously expensive.


I am coordinating the Space Shuttle Program Office's e-mail traffic to
NPO Energia for our on-going Joint Missions.  I have several e-mail
addresses for NPO Energia folks, but I won't post them on the 'Net for
obvious reasons.  If you need to know, give me a yell.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368


It was more than a theoretical concept; it was seriously pursued by
Freeman Dyson et al many years ago. I don't know how well-known this is,
but a high explosive Orion prototype flew (in the atmosphere) in San
Diego back in 1957 or 1958. I was working at General Atomic at the time,
but I didn't learn about the experiment until almost thirty years later,
when
Ted Taylor visited us and revealed that it had been done. I feel sure
that someone must have film of that experiment, and I'd really like to
see it. Has anyone out there seen it?


Are there any Honda groups out there?  Especially ones that deal with
Preludes?


: You were right the second time, it is KNX. Believe it or not, I also
: listen to KNX in the evenings here in Colorado! It's kind of fun driving
: through the country listening to traffic jams on the 405. Back to your
: original question. Yes, there are sensors just past every on-ramp and
: off-ramp on the freeways. They're the same sensors used at most stoplights
: now (coils in the pavement). You might want to give CalTrans a call or
: even ask Bill Keene (KNX's traffic reporter). I doubt if just anyone can
: get the information, but it would be worth asking just in case you can
: get it.

I seem to remember that they sell the information (and a computer connection)
to anyone willing to pay.

On the subject of the pavement sensors, can anyone tell me more about them?

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Wolf             Electrical Engineer                cmwolf@mtu.edu


If I remember rightly PKU syndrome in infants is about 1/1200 ? They lack
two genes. And people who lack one gene are supposed to be 1/56 persons?
Those with PKU have to avoid naturally occuring phenylalanine. And those
who only have one gene and underproduce whatever it is they are supposed to
be producing are supposed to be less tolerant of aspartame.

The methol, formaldahyde thing was supposed to occur with heating?


I apologize to the moderator, but the first quote was deleted and I
would like to respond to both.

As for the "goal we can never achieve", the reward comes from the
trying.  Paul makes a clear claim that we are to continue straining for
the prize over in Philippians 3:10-16.  Only by not living out the
commands do we stagnate and become lukewarm, to be spit out by Jesus.
As it says in 1 John 5:3:  "This is love for God:  to obey his comands."
That obedience is our straining to achieve for God.  Of course, this
requires work on our part.

As for the quote in James, Satan doesn't care what we believe.  What
matters is the results of our belief (works).  If one truly has faith in
what one believes, one will either act on that faith or be lying to
oneself about believing in the first place.

Stan, as for your first line, you have a very good point.  Obedience by
obligation (grudgery) is not what God desires.  Instead, look at how
many times the Bible talks about being joyous in all situations and when
doing God's work.  Being begrudged by the work has no value.  Also, we
should do the work necessary whenever we can, not just when we feel
Jesus' presence.  Feelings can deceive us.  However, as Paul states to
Timothy in 2 Timothy 4:2:  "Preach the Word; be prepared in season and
out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and
careful instruction."  Also, remember that Paul tells Timothy in 1
Timothy 4:16:  "Watch your life and doctrine closely.  Persevere in
them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers."
So, in order to do the work necessary, we need to be sure that we are
correct first.  Remember Jesus' warning in Matthew 7:3-5 not to be
hypocritical about what we do.  The best way to accomplish this is to be
a disciple completely in both thought and deed.


If anyone's still interested, I have ONE Mattel electronic game left for sale
or trade. It's Baseball (Tan Case) and includes a 9-volt battery and the
original manual!  I was able to sell Soccer and Basketball 2 for $70.00 and
traded the Football game for a Genesis cart...  so, I was happy.  I will
entertain all offers.. cash or Genesis carts...  By the way, Baseball is in
Excellent condition and works perfectly..


OK, the Mets and O's are good examples, but what about the '90 Reds?  Do you
really think that anyone expected them to sweep the A's?  I know people who
didn't even think they'd win a game, let alone win the Series.  We proved
them wrong, though, didn't we?

As for this year, ignore their record now.  They've had a rocky start, and
that has nothing to do with Colorado.  They shall rise again.  The hunt for
a Reds' October continues. (with all due respect to WLW)  Bye.


     No, you need not bypass the config.sys, in Dos 6.0, there is a function
of multi-config, have you tried BOOT.SYS ? the multi-config is the kind that
you can choose you config.sys at the startup. And I find that is very good.
It has no conflict to QEMM. (I have problem when using BOOT.SYS)
    The key you say is F8, which is trace the config.sys step by step.
    Sorry, if any error :)


: I need help with my '85 ZX900A, I put Supertrapp slip-on's on it and
: had the carbs re-jetted to match a set of K&N filters that replaced
: the stock airbox.

	Ahh, and just how were the carbs rejeted to "match" the changes
you made to the bike? A stage three kit from K/N or Dynojet?

: Now I have a huge flat spot in the carburation at : about 5 thousand RPM
in most any gear.

	Isn't rejetting fun?

: This is especially frustrating
: on the highway, the bike likes to cruise at about 80mph which happens
: to be 5,0000 RPM in sixth gear.  I've had it "tuned" and this doesn't
: seem to help.  I am thinking about new carbs or the injection system
: from a GPz 1100.  Does anyone have any suggestions for a fix besides
: restoring it to stock?
:

	New CARBS??? Why would that fix it? you still have to get the
jetting right to match what seems to be a extremely overly lean condition.
You added a more free flowing exhaust, and then higher flowing filters.
Chances are it's to lean. BUT! This may not be,that's the big fun with
carb tuning. It's _very_ tricky.

	Your one and only choice (unless you want to spend many hours
fiddling with the carbs) is to take it to a guy witha  Dyno and have he
tune the carbs for your current set up. Otherwise you'll be playing
a guessing game for a long time...

 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                  AFM #422                              DoD #683

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours  *  1989 Ninja 250


Hi netlanders,

Does anybody know if there is something like Macintosh Hypercard for any UNIX
platform?

Thanks in advance


04/19/1993 0000  Lezghis Astir

By NEJLA SAMMAKIA
 Associated Press Writer

GUSSAR, Azerbaijan (AP) -- The 600,000 Lezghis of Azerbaijan and Russia have
begun clamoring for their own state, threatening turmoil in a tranquil corner
of the Caucasus.

The region has escaped the ethnic warfare of neighboring Nagorno-Karabakh,
Abkhazia and Ossetia, but Lezhgis could become the next minority in the former
Soviet Union to fight for independence.

Lezghis, who are Muslim descendents of nomadic shepherds, are angry about the
conscription of their young men to fight in Azerbaijan's 5-year-old undeclared
war with Armenia.

They also want to unite the Lezghi regions of Azerbaijan and Russia, which
were effectively one until the breakup of the Soviet Union created national
borders that had been only lines on a map.

A rally of more than 3,000 Lezghis in March to protest conscription and
demand a separate "Lezghistan" alarmed the Azerbaijani government.

Officials in Baku, the capital, deny rumors that police shot six
demonstrators to death. But the government announced strict security measures
and began cooperating with Russian authorities to control the movement of
Lezhgis living across the border in the Dagestan region of Russia.

Visitors to Gussar, the center of Lezhgi life, found the town quiet soon
after the protest. Children played outdoors in the crisp mountain air.

At the Sunday bazaar, men in heavy coats and dark fur hats gathered to
discuss grievances ranging from high customs duties at the Russian border to a
war they say is not theirs.

"I have been drafted, but I won't go," said Shamil Kadimov, gold teeth
glinting in the sun. "Why must I fight a war for the Azerbaijanis? I have
nothing to do with Armenia."

More than 3,000 people have died in the war, which centers on the disputed
territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, about 150 miles to the southeast.

Malik Kerimov, an official in the mayor's office, said only 11 of 300 locals
drafted in 1992 had served.

"The police don't force people to go," he said. "They are afraid of an
uprising that could be backed by Lezghis in Dagestan."

All the men agreed that police had not fired at the demonstrators, but
disagreed on how the protest came about.

Some said it occurred spontaneously when rumors spread that Azerbaijan was
about to draft 1,500 men from the Gussar region, where 75,000 Lezghis live.

Others said the rally was ordered by Gen. Muhieddin Kahramanov, leader of the
Lezhgi underground separatist movement, Sadval, based in Dagestan.

"We organized the demonstration when families came to us distraught about
draft orders," said Kerim Babayev, a mathematics teacher who belongs to Sadval.

"We hope to reunite peacefully, by approaching everyone -- the Azerbaijanis,
the Russians."

In the early 18th century, the Lezhgis formed two khanates, or sovereignties,
in what are now Azerbaijan and Dagestan. They roamed freely with their sheep
over the green hills and mountains between the two khanates.

By 1812, the Lezghi areas were joined to czarist Russia. After 1917, they
came under Soviet rule. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, the
600,000 Lezghis were faced for the first time with strict borders.

About half remained in Dagestan and half in newly independent Azerbaijan.

"We have to pay customs on all this, on cars, on wine," complained Mais
Talibov, a small trader. His goods, laid out on the ground at the bazaar,
included brandy, stomach medication and plastic shoes from Dagestan.

"We want our own country," he said. "We want to be able to move about easily.
But Baku won't listen to us."

Physically, it is hard for outsiders to distinguish Lezhgis from other
Azerbaijanis. In many villages, they live side by side, working at the same
jobs and intermarrying to some degree.

But the Lezhgis have a distinctive language, a mixture of Arabic, Turkish and
Persian with strong guttural vowels.

Azerbaijan officially supports the cultural preservation of its 10 largest
ethnic minorities. The Lezghis have weekly newspapers and some elementary
school classes in their language.

Autonomy is a different question. If the Lezghis succeeded in separating from
Azerbaijan, they would set a precedent for other minorities, such as the
Talish in the south, the Tats in the nearby mountains and the Avars of eastern
Azerbaijan.


Never had any problem with mine...

Are you *SURE* the nut/bolt you are trying is really a 1/2" hex?  13mm
is just slightly larger...  and a 1/2 wrench won't fit on a GM 13mm
nut (my 91 GMC pickup has several 13mm nuts on it...  really annoying, metric
threads too.  Seems that most of the body is metric, most of the engine is
SAE).


=
=
=
=
=
=
 The only thing about the 300ZX turbo and new Supra is they're about $10K or
 more over his budget...


:I recently attended an allery seminar.  Steroid Nasal sprays were
:discussed.  Afterward on a one-on-one basis, I asked the speaker what if
:none of the Vancanese, Beconase, Nasalide, Nasalcort, or Nasalchrom work
:nor do any oral decongestants work.  She replied that she saw an article on
:Vasomotor Rhinitis.  That this is not an allergic reaction and that nothing
:other than the Afrin's and such would work.  (Which in my case is true).

There has been some recent research on vasomotor rhinitis that shows that
ipratroprium bromide (Atrovent) inhaled nasally is an effective treatment
for many sufferers.  It has been approved for this use and is available
with a nasal adaptor in Canada.  In the US the FDA has yet to approve this
use of the drug, but it is available as an oral inhaler (for COPD), and
these can be adapted for intranasal use.


A very good modeling package I found is `irit' (look for irit.tar.Z).
However there is no converter from it's format to POV format. I postet
a request for such a converter in this group but got no response,
so I'm considering to write such a program myself.


  Sure you can have everything, if by "everything" you mean fast straight line
performance AND handling - present day liter sport bikes have more horsepower
and have faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times than the V-max...  Plus, they corner
just a bit better...

  Very true.

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy
DoD #0013


actions
the
them

This is, of course, your opinion.  I differ greatly.  There can be NO doubt the
FBI at least shares in the blame.

--
jmd@handheld.com


: I think Dean got hit by a pitched ball the other night... he got pinch hit for
: and didn't play against Baltimore tonight... whats up with that? Is he hurt?
: Please tell me he's not...

He evidentally got hit in the elbow by a Fernando pitch.  His arm swelled
from the elbow to the wrist (or something like that).  They took X-rays
of the arm and there is nothing damaged.  He missed the last game with the
Orioles, but he is suppose to be ready for the next game.

Hope this helps.


I just bought a select 300 and rushed home to print
some grayscale pictures for my kids, when I discovered that
grayscale(and photograde) are not available if you are
using an SE...even if you are running with an '030 cpu.
You won't see this in the printer's docs, and the Apple
rep didn't mention it to our users group either. It seems
that SE ROMs won't support those "features". Okay, I
guess I should have somehow known that this was the case.
Let the buyer beware, huh Apple?
	Be that as it may, I have been thinking about the
problem and I'm puzzled. Why  can't a defencieny in the
ROM be made up for in software. I write software for a living
(on unix platforms) and I don't understand the "it just
can't be done" responses I've gotten from those I have
asked so far.  Isn't Mode32, or somesuch piece of  soft-
ware, just such a fix.
	Anyway, I was hoping someone knowledgeable
about Mac internals could set me straight: is it simply
impossible for a mac SE to print grayscale, or could
someone armed with enough info and a little pro-
gramming experience cook something up that would
supplement the ROM's capabilities?
	Also, how does one know if one's mac can
support the grayscale and photograde that the Select 300
is supposedly capable of? ( Short of buying the printer
and trying it out like I did)
	Thanks for your help.


I am trying to find out if my application is running on a local or a
remote display.  A local display being connected to the same system
that the client is executing on.  I have access to the display string
but can I tell from the string?

If the client is executing on host foo then ":0", "unix:0", "foo:0",
and "localhost:0" are all local.  Under Ultrix, I believe that
"local:0" is also a valid display name (a shared memory connection
maybe?).  Are there other strings that I should check for?  Is there a
better way to detect this?

Thank you for any help you can give me.


Carlos,

   Why not check out some of the scientific research that has been
done in this area and convince yourself.

   Research around the world indicates that the issue of coercion is
the critical factor.

For those interested in research on the topic I can suggest, Li et al
(England), Constantine (United States), and Sandfort (The Netherlands).
I especially like Sandfort's research for he actually quotes what the
boys who are involved in the relationships have to say.

Children and Sex: New Findings, New Perspectives by Larry Constantine
  & Floyd M. Martinson (eds.). Little Brown & Co., Boston, 1980.
Boys On Their Contacts With Men by Theo Sandfort, Global Academic
  Publishers, Elmhurst, New York, 1987.
Perspectives on Paedophilia by Brian Taylor (ed.). Batsford Academic &
  Educational Ltd., London, 1981.
Paedophilia: A Factual Report by Frits Bernard. Enclave, Rotterdam,
  The Netherlands, 1985.
Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys by Parker Rossman. Maurice
  Temple Smith Ltd., Middlesex, Great Britain, 1985.
Children's Sexual Encounters With Adults by C.K. Li, D.J. West & T.P.
  Woodhouse. Gerald Duckworth & Co., London, 1990.

Yours in Liberation,

Roy


 Umm, perhaps you could explain what 'rights' we are talking about
here ..


What can you expect from a buffoon who said that the Pens should have
drafted Kirk Muller instead of Mario Lemieux?

Perhaps once upon a time Don Cherry had some insight into the game of
hockey, but he's really degenerated into a parody of himself.


What ways are there to hook up to an appletalk network to use an Apple
LaserWriter?  Is there a way I can use an AppleShare File Server also?  The
less memory used the better. Thanks. Any help greatly appreciated.


According to the 1990 Harvard Alumni Directory, Mr. O'Keefe failed to
graduate.  You may decide for yourselves if he was indeed educated
anywhere.


Obviously, it is ultimately the teams choice...the NHL would obviously
prefer not to annoy the European hockey federations, but the NHL right
now cannot force NHL teams to free their players...the Whalers probably
did it this way so as to not annoy their farm team affiliate.


Take up residence in a fantasy world.


-*----

I think that Lee Lady and I are talking at cross purposes.
Above, Lady seems concerned with the contrast between great
science that makes big advances in our knowledge and mediocre
science that makes smaller steps.  In most of this thread, I have
been concerned with the difference between what is science and
what is not.

Lee Lady is correct when she asserts that the difference between
Einstein and the average post-doc physicist is the quality of
their thought.  But what is the difference between Einstein and a
genius who would be a great scientist but whose great thoughts
are scientifically screwy?  (Some would give Velikovsky or
Korzybski as examples.  If you don't like these, choose your
own.)  I say it is the same as the difference between the mediocre
physicist and the mediocre proponent of qi.  Both Einstein and
the mediocre physcists have disciplined their work from the
cumulative knowledge of how previous researchers went wrong.
Both Velikovsky and the mediocre proponent of qi have failed to
do this.

Let me approach this from a second direction.  When one is asked
to review a paper for a journal or conference, there are many
kinds of criticism that one can make.  One kind of criticism is
that the work is just wrong or misinformed.  Another kind of
criticism is that the work, while technically correct, is either
not important or not interesting.  The first difference is the
one that I have been pointing to.  The second difference is the
one that Lee Lady seems to be discussing.

I have often pointed out that for homeopathy to be considered
scientific, what is needed is a test of its theoretical claims,
not just of some of its proposed remedies.  Similarly, I suspect
that traditional Chinese medicine has many remedies that work;
what it lacks (as one example) is any experiment that tests the
presence of qi.

Certainly a "theoretical structure that makes sense" is the goal.
In areas where we do not yet have this, I see nothing wrong with
forming and testing smaller hypotheses.  Let's face it: we cannot
always wait for an Einstein to come along and make everything
clear for us.  Sometimes those of us who are not Einstein have to
plug along and make small amounts of progress as best we can.


I have a pair of car speakers for sale. They are BRAND NEW, still in box and
plastic wrap. I got them at Highland's going-out-of-business sale just yesterday
However they won't fit my car's rear deck because it's not the right size.
So, I am trying to sale them here.

INFINITY RS-6903
6x9 Three-Way
Freq. Resp. 40-22k Hz
Power Capacity: 90 Watts per channel
Sensitivity: 93 dB SPL/1W/1m
Impedance 4 ohms
Mouting Depth 3"

List Price $200
Stereo Store $140-165 + tax
Mail Order Catalog Price $149 + S/H
My Price $120 obo + Shipping

Please e-mail me at fang@en.ecn.purdue.edu
or call me at (317)743-1394


Well, I'd say you're mostly right, but for different reasons. (BTW, as of a
couple years ago, the most stolen bikes in Orange County and SF were 750
GSX's and Ninjas). Probably the biggest reason BMWs aren't ripped off is that
most people who buy BMWs will only deal with the actual BMW dealer, or mail-
order types. Most of these can have their inventory checked fairly easily
by law-enforcement types, and their mark-up is usually sufficient to keep
them honest about acquiring parts.

For Harleys and rice-rockets, you've got 2 different situations. There is a
HUGE aftermarket in Harley parts, so a bike can be parted out fairly easily.
Ditto the non-sport Japanese bikes, but the prices on the parts for these are
not as high, comparatively. For the 'rockets', anytime a bike goes down, the
plastic is usually cracked, and is expensive to replace. It's fairly easy,
then, for a disreputable shop to take a fairing from a stolen bike, slap it
on a bike in for repair, repaint it, and make a tidy profit. The other parts,
more traceable, can be used, or discarded if they are too traceable.

Mike


Newsgroups: rec.audio,misc.forsale
Distribution: na
Subject: Forsale: Sony D-22 diskman


Contact Chris Arthur at Chris_Arthur@pennies.stratus.com
He restores lots of old video and arcade games and knows where to get
parts.

Tony

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: I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question.  If not,
: please forgive me and point me in the right direction.

: Does anybody know of a program that converts .GIF files to .BMP files
: and if so, where can I ftp it from?  Any help would be greatly
: appreciated.

: Please respond via e-mail as I do not read this group very often.

: Thanks...Scott

Sorry Scott, if you post it here, you can read it here.  There is a shareware
program available via anonymous FTP that will suit your needs.  You'll find
it at OAK.OAKLAND.EDU  in the subdirectory pub/msdos/graphics.  The file is
called "GRFWK61T.ZIP."


I was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this.  I have
several questions I would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops.
And please don't say get a vehicle code, go to your local station, or obvious
things like that.  My questions would not be found in those places nor
answered face to face with a real, live in the flesh, cop.
If your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop, etc.
don't bother writing in.  Thanks.


Regarding the post for information about the Mac Portable and the
Powerbook 100, here are a couple of the answers:
(1) Does the Mac Portable support Appletalk? Yes
(2) What CPU is in the Mac Portable? A low power version of the 68000
running at 15.87 Mhz.
(3) Does the Mac Portable run system 7? Yes, although it does use up a
lot of memory.
(4) Is memory still availabe for the Portable? There are several vendors
that still make RAM for the Portable. There are two options: Some vendors
sell memory that plugs into the RAM Slot inside the portable. Others sell
memory that plugs into the Processor Direct Slot. Either way, the most
memory you can address is either 8 or 9 megabytes, depending on whether
the Portable is Backlit or not. King Memory and Peripherials in Irvine
California is the cheapest place I know of for Portable memory. 2MB -
$140, 4 MB, $250, and 7 MB $415. I still see several ads in macuser that
are selling 4 MB modules for $450. Wide variety in pricing here.
(5) What is the internal HD? Its a Conner CP-3045 40 MB HD with an
average access time of about 25 ms.
(6) Is the screen better that the PB 100? Heavens yes! The PB 100 is a
backlit PASSIVE matrix screen which means it fades out on you if you move
your head a few degrees left or right. The Portable has a backlit or
non-backlit ACTIVE Matrix screen which I think is a joy to read.

Other things to consider - Where to get the portable and how much to pay
for it? A good supplier has been SelectTerm in Mass. They were willing to
sell a 2MB Non-backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for about
$650. Or a 4 MB Backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for
about $900.

The answer is call around for a good while or you'll pay too much.

I'm still looking for an internal FAX modem for the portable? Anybody got
one they want to sell? -- Good Luck, Gene Wright


Contact Signaware Corp
800-4583820
800 6376564

-------------------------------- Original Memo --------------------------------
BCC:     Vincent Wall                   From:      Imaging Club
Subject: Signature verification  ?      Date Sent: 05/04/93

sci.image.processing
From: yyqi@ece.arizona.edu (Yingyong Qi)
Subject: Signature Image Database
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineering

Hi, All:

Could someone tell me if there is a database of handwriting signature
images available for evaluating signature verification systems.

Thanks.


%>I dunno, Lemieux?  Hmmm...sounds like he
%>has *French* blood in him!!!  Hey!  France is part of Europe!  Send that
%>Euro-blooded boy back!!!
%
% Don't you Americans study history...the French settled in North America
% as early or before the British...Lemieux can probably trace back his
% North American heritage back a lot further than most of us.

<friendly-jibe mode on>

Don't you Canadians understand sarcasm?  Sometimes the reader must
decide that what he's reading is so ludicrous that it must mean
the opposite of what it said...

Kinda like the "Toronto's going to win the Cup" posts.  Yeah.  Right.
And cows can fly...

<friendly-jibe mode off>

Geez, Gerald.  Like anyone reading rec.flamefest.hockey.pens.are.great
didn't know that Le-Mow was from Quebec.


It was great to hear that UMass is bringing back hockey!  It reminded me that a
couple of years ago there was talk that both Bimidgi (sp?) and Mankato State
trying to upgrade their programs to Div. 1 status.  I also seem to remember
that they had some trouble with new NCAA rule about just who was allowed to
compete at the Div. 1 level.  Was that ever resolved?  Also, I was just
wondering if there is ANY college hockey east of Colorado (Alaska excepted).
With the new popularity of hockey on the west coast, I would expect there to
be some interest building at the collegiate levels too. Anyone heard anything?
                      James Old, e-mail JOLD@vma.cc.nd.edu


Well,

42 is 101010 binary, and who would forget that its the
answer to the Question of "Life, the Universe, and Everything else."
That is to quote Douglas Adams in a round about way.

Of course the Question has not yet been discovered...

--
Mark A. Cartwright, N5SNP
University of Texas @ Austin
Computation Center, Graphics Facility
markc@emx.utexas.edu
markc@sirius.cc.utexas.edu
markc@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
(512)-471-3241 x 362

PP-ASEL 9-92


Well, I've been informed that the price on the whole thing I'm selling is now
less than the price I'm selling it for.  That will teach me to wait that long
before getting rid of electronic equipment.  Nevermind, everyone, I'm keeping
the thing.


Wanted:  color monitor >= 14"  suitable for use on a Macintosh
Centris 610.  I am planning on purchasing one of these machines
soon and don't want to have to pay full price for a new monitor
when a used one will do me just as well.  If you have one you'd
like to part with, please email me with the specs and price.

Thanks.


What he said.  Most of my friends refer to them as "ground magnets."  One


Ken Arromdee writes

Yes, but tell me how you think your question answers my question. If
the BDs didn't know immediately that they were dealing with feds
(uniform apparel, insignia), they must have figured it out in pretty
short order. Why did they keep fighting? They seemed awfully ready
for having been attacked "without warning".


Careful now folks... Also consider the 90VAC+ @20Hz that is forced on ring
and tip when the phone's supposed to ring!  Even with a simple zener
and LED setup, you might end up with some carbon real quick.  Whatever
scheme you use, make sure you've got at least 200V-rated components on
the frontend.

Also remember that, if I'm not mistaken, the phone line is a 600ohm
equivalent circuit.  Any current you draw from the 48V or so gets
dropped across that 600ohms.  That's fine until you're down to roughly
12V, when Ma Bell considers it to be off-hook.  But dropping it that
far down is probably a big no-no.

The easiest implementation to accomplish the above??

    tip  ------->|-----\/\/\/\-----+----------+
              rectifier  resistor  |          |
              diode                |          \
                                   V          /
                          zener  /---/        \  resistor
                                   |          /
                                   |          |
                                   |          V   LED
                                   |         ---
                                   |          |
    ring --------------------------+----------+

This is only a suggestion...go ahead and blow holes in it, but you
get the idea.  Choose a high-efficiency LED so you don't need much
current to get it to light up.  Choose values for the other components
as required.


According to the official documentation, failure to use the IIfx terminator
can not only affect SCSI bus performance but can also damage the bus.
Whether this is your problem or not I don't know. I have had sporadic SCSI
problems with my IIfx since I bought it. (I cannot connect more than three
devices, fourth one causes major problems).

First thing to do is to try to reformat your drive on someone elses system.
If you continue to get errors it is probably the drive. If it formats fine
then I would try to format it on your system with no externals. If this
fails then the SCSI controller on your IIfx needs repair/replacement.

Hope this helps.


Thanks for the info.

How much more does the F550iW cost?


jayson stark (i trhink that's him) fits perfectly in this category.

anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers  - at this pace, he'll
 have 324 home runs!" should be shot.

if, at the end of april, he has 11, and anyone writes "at this
 pace, he'll have 100+ homers!" they shouldbe shot too.


Annoying??? Are you actually using one or are you just talking? ;-)

I'm sitting in from of one right now and I must say I never notice them! Yes,
of course I can see them if I look, but annoying? NO WAY!!!

Christian


	<...>	<...>

	I've never liked my passengers to try and shift their weight with the
	turns at all... I find the weight shift can be very sudden and
	unnerving. It's one thing if they're just getting comfortable or
	decide to look over your other shoulder, but I don't recommend having
	him/her shift her weight with each turn... too violent.

	Also (I think someone already said this) make sure your passenger
	wears good gear. I sometimes choose to ride without a helmet or
	lacking other safety gear (depends on how squidly I feel) but I
	won't let passengers do it. What I do to myself I can handle, but
	I wouldn't want to hurt anyone else, so I don't let them on without
	gloves, jacket, (at least) jeans, heavy boots, and a helmet that *fits*

	Go *real* easy. It's amazing how solid a grip you have on the
	handle bars that your passenger does not. Don't make her feel like
	she's going to slide off the back, and "snappy" turns for you are
	sickening lurches for her. In general, it feels much less controlled
	and smooth as a passenger. I can't stand being on the back of my
	brother's bike, and I ride aggressively when i ride and I know he's
	a good pilot... still, everything feels very unsteady when you're
	a passenger.

	Show off by not showing off the first time out...


   It's worse than that -- there *is* no such thing as
   a double-blind study on the effects of MSG, by
   virtue of the fact that MSG changes the taste of food in
   a characteristic way that is detectable by the subject and
   that cannot be duplicated by a placebo.

Common! You can easily disguise  to flavor of  MSG by putting  it in a
capsule. Then,  the  study  becomes  a  double  blind of  MSG capsules
against control  capsules (containing exactly  the same contents minus
the MSG).
--


Sorry, but Mormons aren't generally considered to be Christians.