(hudson)
(me)

/(hudson)
/So. Why is someone elses will such a big deal if morality is all relative.

I don't believe I ever said that morality was all relative.

What I said was that I can make my mind up on my own, thank you, and that
you don't have the right to tell others what to think.

I think that you will find that in most moral systems, there is
a respect for human life and the dignity of the person.  It is all the
stuff besides these points that forms the core of the disagreement between
primitive moral absolutists like yourself and the rest of us.

/(hudson)
/Maybe (the insane lover of pain might reason) if other people experienced
/enough pain, they might learn to enjoy it, too.

Fine.  There is still the clinical definition of crazy.  And this also
involves a violation of free will, because the insane lover of your
little example would be inflicting pain on a non-willing subject.

Try again.

(hudson)
(me)

/(hudson)
/You have to have some sort of premise about choice or self-awareness.

No, you do not.  I demonstrated to you the example of the football
team which doesn't require premises about freedom of choice or
sentience/self-awareness.


I am no expert on this.  But I am pretty sure there is no way to recover this.  IDE drive has mapping information written directly on drives.  When you  low level format it, the information itself is gone as well, I don't think you can get it back unless you send it back to Western Digital and ask them to refurbish it for you.


Yup.  I can hear the _millions_ cheering for DK right now!  Josef Stalin eat
your heart out!  :)
--
Bake Timmons, III


     TRIAD, the first drag-free satellite, was designed and built by the
Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory and launched 2 Sept 1972.  The
satellite was in three sections separated by two booms.  The central section
housed the DISCOS Disturbance Compensation System, which consisted of a proof
mass of special non-magnetic alloy housed within a spherical cavity.  The
proof mass flew a true gravitational orbit, free from drag and radiation
pressure.  Teflon microthrusters kept the body of the satellite centered
around the proof mass, thereby flying the entire satellite drag free.

     TRIAD was one of the APL-designed Navy Navigation Satellites.  The
2nd-generation operational navigation satellites flying today (NOVA) use a
single-axis version of DISCOS.  TRIAD was also the sixth APL satellite to be
powered by an RTG (APL flew the first nuclear power supply in space, in 1961).

     Further info on TRIAD, DISCOS, etc. can be found in "Spacecraft Design
Innovations in the APL Space Department," Johns Hopkins APL Technical Digest,
Vol. 13, No. 1 (1992).


Uh oh.  This looks a bit too much like Bobby's "Atheism Is False" stuff.  Are
we really going to have to go through this again?  Maybe the universe is
cyclical!  :)  :(


I have been unable to get COM 4 to work - diagnostic programs such as msd show
nothing installed.  I think the software options are OK - is there a known
hardware conflict and/or workaround for this problemand CD ROM
System is a G2K 486DX2/66 tower with ATI video card
Ports are set as follows
  On board COMa = COM1 IRQ4 to external device
  Internal modem = COM 3 IRQ5
  DFIO port card primary port = COM 2 IRQ3  mouse
  On board COM B = COM 4 IRQ 9  <--- DOES NOT WORK
I have run this from a boot disk with only command.com to eliminate softwar


Preface: I am a novice user at best to the Windows environment.

I am trying to execute a MS C++ 7.0 executable program which accesses a Btrieve
database to build an ASCII file.

When I execute it under windows the screen goes blank and my PC locks up.  The only
way for me to return is to reset the machine.

Does anyone have any insight on what I may have to do in order for the program to
correctly under windows?  (By the way it runs fine in DOS 5.0)

System:  Gateway 486/DX250
	 ATI Graphics Ultra Card 640x480

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Great, the first advantage of cheap coax, I've ever heard.

Cheers   Robert  (HB9NBY)


Satan was one of God's highest ranking angels, like Uriel, Raphael,
Michael, and Gabriel.  In fact, his name was Satanel.  He did challenge
God's authority and got kicked out of heaven.  A lot of the mythology
of Satan (he lost the -el suffix when he fell) comes from the
Book of Enoch and is not found in the bible.

Read the Book of Enoch, available thru bookstores, or get the book
called "Angels: an endangered species" (I think).


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each equivalent to one full year of Japanese language study.  They begin
June 7 and end August 13.  The courses meet five days per week, five hours
per day.  There is a flat rate tuition charge of $1600 per course.
Fellowships available for science and engineering students.  Contact
Steven Brener, Program Manager of the Japanese Science and Technology
Management Program, at the University of Pittsburgh at the number or
address below.
ALL INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY, THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO
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communitites are encouraged to apply for classes commencing in June 1993 and
January 1994.

PROGRAM OBJECTIVES
The program intends to promote technology transfer between Japan and the
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experience how the Japanese proceed with technological development.  This is
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PROGRAM DESIGN
To fulfill the objectives of the program, participants will be required to
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Several Japanese language courses will be offered, including intensive courses
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A particular enphasis is placed on attaining a deep understanding of the
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Upon completion of their language and cultural training at PITT and CMU,
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DOS 5.0/6.0 cannot read the NTFS file system, although the NTFS file system
can read the FAT file system of DOS.  I have WindowsNT on a seperate
partition on my machine at home, and I can read my DOS disks from Windows NT,
but not vice-versa.

As far as the robustness of the file system, it seems to be very fast, and
I have yet to have a single problem with it.  That doesn't prove it's better
than the FAT system though.  Read the book 'Inside Windows NT,' it will give
you all the info you're looking for.

		Scott

--


I am most embarassed that my irrate, intemperate post is still
circulating.

I have been chided by experts for my behavior.  I now agree with
all of them, although some were no more restrained in their
speech than I was 8)

I have apologized to Robin Hanson.

Lew


Yes, it's possible... in fact, there's some gl widget code in
/usr/lpp/GL somewhere... (it's named Glib.c; my IBM's down right now
though, so I can't find the exact location :)

  WARNING: this code feels quite bogus. It does things like calling
noport() before winopen(), and then extracting an X window id from it
anyway. It worked just fine under aix 3.1; I spent last weekend trying
to port it to 3.2 (gl under 3.2 doesn't seem to like it), and it's
turning into a Hard Job.

  Check out your "info" pages; it has some pretty good documentation on
whan you can and can't do when mixing gl and X, and how to go about
doing so.


Not in Indiana:  they showed a tape-delay of Chicago v Boston, because
WGN had the rainout of the cubs.  So WGN showed reruns of Hitchcock.
No hockey (at least in this part of the state).

Go Aeros!


I've had a couple of e-mail responses from people who seem to believe that
this sort of thing is not only unsupported, it is downright dangerous.

I have heard of no such warnings from anybody at Apple. Just to be sure, I
asked a couple of our technicians, one of whom has been servicing Macs for
years. There is *no* danger of damaging logic boards by plugging and unplugging
ADB devices with the power on.

SCSI, yes, ADB, no...


...

Maybe I'm a bit old-fashioned, but have you heard about something
called Love? It used to play some role in people's considerations
for getting married. Of course I know some people who married
fictitiously in order to get a green card, but making a common
child for 18,000$? The power of AA is limited. Your proposal is
indeed unconventional.


Sorry, ARF - you dog,

That news was suppressed because the Israeli national volleyball team
repeatedly spiked it.

Let this be a lesson to others not to invoke the wrath of sports nuts.
(Brits lead the way in this regard, with ~220 casualties in the last 2
years.)

Anyway, Yigal would never sue.  His life is (presumably) so pristine
that its most intimate details could be revealed without harm to
anyone.  Might even be good instruction for some people I can think of.


Let us not forget the Nazi Armenians. Nazi Armenians were of service
to Germans in Arab countries as well. As Uzun put it, one well-known
case which received a lot of media-coverage involved two Nazi Armenian
agents which were dropped over Syria by Italian war planes. The mission
of the agents was to mingle among the Armenian population in Syria and
to acquire relevant information for the German Wehrmacht on the allied
forces in the area.[1] Nazi Armenians also helped German propaganda
efforts in Arab countries designed to promote pro-Nazi sentiments among
the French- and British-ruled Arab populations. Beirut had traditionally
been strong-hold of the Nazi Armenians and until very recently it was
the center of international Armenian terrorism.

In Russia General Dro (the Butcher), the architect of the Turkish
genocide in WWI, was working closely with the German Secret
Service. He entered the war zone with his own men and acquired
important intelligence about the Soviets. His experience with
the Turkish genocide in x-Soviet Armenia made him an invaluable
source for the Germans.[2]

[1] Meyer, Berkian, ibid., p. 150.
[2] Meyer, Berkian, ibid., p. 113; Patrick von zur Muehlen,
    ibid., p. 84.

Serdar Argic


Guess the subject says it all.
  I would like references to any introductory material on Image
  Databases.
  Please send any pointers to mini@point.cs.uwm.edu

  Thanx in advance!


seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna (S.M.) Watson) asks:
 > What is the objection to celebration of Easter?

       The objection naturally is in the way in which you phrase it.
Easter (or Eashtar or Ishtar or Ishtarti or other spellings) is the pagan
whore goddess of fertility.  Therefore, your question to me is "what is
the objection to celebration of the pagan whore goddess?"  When phrased
that way I suspect (or at least I would HOPE) that it becomes immeadiately
apparent what my objection to "celebrating" her would be.

 > It is celebration of the resurrection of Jesus.

      No, you are thinking perhaps of "Ressurection Sunday" I think.
(Though I'm not too crazy about the word "Sunday", but I certainly like
this phrasing much better than envoking the name of the whore goddess.)
     For that matter, stay Biblical and call it Omar Rasheet (The Feast of
First Fruits).  Torah commands that this be observed on the day following
the Sabbath of Passover week.  (Sunday by any other name in modern
parlance.)  Why is there so much objection to observing the Resurrection
on the 1st day of the week on which it actually occured?  Why jump it all
over the calendar the way Easter does?  Why not just go with the Sunday
following Passover the way the Bible has it?  Why seek after unbiblical
methods?

 > I don't recall a command in Scripture for us to celebrate
 > the resurrection, but it is the sole and only reason that
 > we are Christians--how could we not celebrate it?

      So what does this question have to do with Easter (the whore
goddess)?  I am all for celebrating the Resurrection.  Just keep that
whore out of the discussion.

 > If it is only the name which is a problem, I suggest that if
 > we are too concerned about etymology, there are a lot of
 > words we are going to have to drop.  (As an aside, some
 > terminally PC people here in Ottawa want dictionaries to be
 > altered so that there are no negative definitions associated
 > with the word _black_, so as not to offend people of colour.

       Yes, I have heard of your newspapers speaking of the need to repave
streets with "Afro-Canadiantop".  <grin> (I still think "blacktop" sounds
better though.)

 > As a short person, I hope they will also remove the definition
 > "curt or surly" associated with my physical description.)

       Fine by me.  And while we are at it, the left-handed people are
both "sinister" and "gauche" so we probably will have some objections from
that quarter as well.

 > In Quebec French, the word for the celebration of the
 > resurrection is "Pa^ques"--this is etymologically related
 > to Pesach (Passover) and the pascal lamb.  So is the
 > French Canadian (mostly Roman Catholic) celebration better
 > because it uses the right name?

      Yes, that sounds much better to me.  Is there anyone out there would
thinks that phrasing sounds worse?

 > So from this I infer that there are different rules for
 > Christians of Jewish descent?  What happened to "there is
 > neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for
 > all are one in Christ Jesus"?

      Read the letter to Philemon.  Now tell me, was Philemon's "slave"
returned to him?  Were there different rules upon the slave than upon
Philemon?  How about male and female?  Are there different "rules" that
apply to them as well?  Or if there is no more "male and female" can Adam
and Steve get married to each other in your congregation?  Yes, there are
differences in form and function.  But the way we come to Salvation in
Messiah remains the same no matter what our position in life.

---------------------------------------

[I am in general not in favor of continuing this discussion, as it
seems repetitive, but this particular point is one that I believe is
new -- the objection is not to having a holiday but to its name.

I'd like to suggest that people think very carefully about this
argument.  Words often change their meaning over time.  The days of
the week are of course originally based on pagan gods.  Some
Christians prefer to refer to "first day", "second day", etc.  However
the majority of Christians have not been persuaded.  The question
seems to be whether it makes any difference what the dictionary shows
as the derivation of a word, if what people mean by it and think when
they use it is different.

Indeed I'd like to suggest that postings like this could themselves be
dangerous.  Suppose people in general use Easter to mean the
celebration of Christ's resurrection.  Postings trying to convince
them that they really mean a celebration in honor of some godess run
the risk of creating exactly the situation that they claim to oppose.
They are doing their best to *create* a linkage in people's minds
between their celebration and the pagan goddess.  It's not clear that
this is a healthy thing.


My next project is to come up with an IF/detector module for fast -- 112
to 250 kB/sec -- packet radio use.  No fancy modulation scheme, just
wide FSK for use at 902 or 1296 MHz.

I'm a bit familiar with the Motorola 3362 chip, but I wonder if there
are newer designs that might work at higher input frequencies.

My goal is to come up with an inexpensive design for a receiver "back
end" with IF input on one end and an FSK demondulator on the other.  I'm
particularly interested in ways to use a higher IF than 10.7 -- do any
current chips work up to, say 150MHz with internal downconversion so a
normal IF filter can be used?

Any suggestions?

John


 ^^^^^

What an incrediblt sexist remark! Come now, Mike, what ever possessed you to
make such a un-PC remark?  I hope all women out there reading this are as
incensed as I am. Remember, WOMAN ARE JUST AS GOOD AS MEN!!!!

Women stand up for your right to be just as stupid as men. In fact, insist on
every oppurtunity to be even more stupid than men! You've got the right, use
it!

Hey, it's a slow afternoon and I really don't want to get back to that
report...;)

BTW: mega-smileys for the humor impaired...


Could you expand on this? I have a feeling you're right, but I don't quite
understand.


I have a Sun 3/60 that has a mono framebuffer (bwtwo0 ?) built on the
motherboard.  The same system also has a cgfour (cgfour0 and bwtwo1 ?)
daughterboard.  I have been using this system with a color monitor having a
color "front" screen from the cgfour, and a mono "back" screen from the
bwtwo1, both on the same tube.  I recentley picked up a 1600 x 1280 Sun mono
monitor, and I would like to make a two headed system with the cgfour0 and the
bwtwo0.  I do not care if I loose the "back" screen on the color tube from the
bwtwo1.  After looking through the Xsun man page I am not sure if this is
possible.  Has anybody sucessfuly done this before?


:         Goodbye Minnesota,...you never earned the right to have an NHL
: franchise in the first place!
:         Hope you enjoy your Twin city wide mania for HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY
: (hey, by the way my old pee wee team is having a reunion in Regina, care
: to come up and film the event?)
:         Yee haa Golden Gophers
: Whatta weird town!!!!!

: s4lawren@sms.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
: Western Business School  --  London, Ontario

This is the second posting of this kind from an idiot at a business
school in Canada. What is your problem up there anyway? Is this what
they teach you in business school in Canada?


I recently attended an allery seminar.  Steroid Nasal sprays were
discussed.  Afterward on a one-on-one basis, I asked the speaker what if
none of the Vancanese, Beconase, Nasalide, Nasalcort, or Nasalchrom work
nor do any oral decongestants work.  She replied that she saw an article on
Vasomotor Rhinitis.  That this is not an allergic reaction and that nothing
other than the Afrin's and such would work.  (Which in my case is true).

I want to find out as much as possible about this, since I am going to see
my allergist in May and want to be armed to the hilt with information;
since nothing he has done with me has helped me at all and I have had no
relief for 14 months.


Do they have a history of working in massage parlors, and telling
co-workers there that they are prostitutes?  Do they frequent truck
stop parking lots at 4:00 AM, without ID on any sort?


I got back from my trip to discover that my email spool file got blown
away.  I am missing all the playoff pool entries sent between April 5
and April 17.  It looks like about 200 entries got lost.  *Sigh*.

Therefore, I would like to ask each person that sent me a team to resend
it ASAP.  I am relying on your honesty to not make changes after the
deadline today.

Thanks in advance, and I apologize for the problem.

--
Andrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com
HP IDACOM Telecom Operation     | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253


In that case why do they chase ST1100s & Goldwings?

Tony


   Better yet, instead of thrashing around on the DOS file system, take
it a step further.  Write yourself a minimal "file system" program that
is used to create/delete files, en/decrypt them to ramdisk, list a
directory. Put the util, password protected, on a floppy.

   The catch is that the storage space used by this util is NOT part
of the DOS file system.  Instead, defrag your disk, thus packing all
allocated clusters into clusters 0-n.  Then use the back end of the
partition to hold your 'stealth' file system.  Or, leave a small 2nd
partition on the disk that is not assigned to DOS.  Another approach
might be to use a directory that contains a set of invariant files (DOS
system files, for instance).  Due to DOS allocating a minimum storage
unit of a "cluster" there is unused physical space on the disk between
the tail end of each file and the end of its associated cluster. These
dead spaces could be concatenated and used to hold your stealth file
system.

   Now you have a situation where no encrypted data "appears" on your
disk at all :-).


Gee, I never knew Valentine made a comment about how Viola signing
with Boston was gonna bring a World Series title to Boston.  I don't
think Valentine ever said Boston will win this year.  Boy, talk about
sensitive, insecure Toronto fans.  :)

In any case, I think Viola would have made a better signing.  Why?
Viola is younger, and is left handed (how many left handed starters does
Toronto have?


				 ^^^^^                   ^^^^^
*Would*? Ha Haaaa Haa ha haAA

How the hell can they come up with a number, specified to the units
column, on something as complicated as this?

Face it, it's the perceptions that matter here, folks, not the facts.
Especially this one:

			  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, that means over 7200 new jobs
for Allegheny county (metro Pgh) alone!

Haaaa   HAAA ha HA HAAA heh heh  HAAAA  <snif>

Doing what?  I hope it's fixing the potholes on my street.

Let's face it, folks, we're in a depression and this is the WPA.

Clinton's really coming here to beat on Sen. Arlen Specter, who happens
to be vacationing in Africa (Don't know whether to laugh or cry)


Having lived, played, and worked on and near the Navajo reservation
for a number of years, I can confirm this is an ancient pattern,
found in petroglyphs dated 800 to 1200 years old.

Also, the Indians never stopped making rugs with this pattern - they
just stopped selling them after the Nazi's pre-empted the swastika.

Note also that the Indian versions use both clockwise and
counter-clockwise swastikas.

Ob guns:  It's the rare Navaho family that doesn't own a rifle.
They remember being "relocated" by the US Army, and don't intend to
do it again.  The Hopi, on the other hand, have a dislike for
weapons, from my experience.  Perhaps they just hide them better
from strangers.


:You are loosing.

"Loosing"?  Well, I'll avoid the spelling flames and see if this person
can make up for it.

:There is no question about it.

Oh, there's LOTS of question about it.  People are becoming more aware each
day that their rights are being threatened, so much so that NRA membership
is growing at the rate of nearly 2,000 per *day*.  We are slowly gaining
our rightful voice, despite the biases, prejudices, and veiled motives of
the liberal media and anti-gun politicians.  We will win.

:Of those who vote, your cause is considered an abomination. No matter
:how hard you try, public opinion is set against the RKBA.

What do you base this on?  Some highly-skewed poll conducted by NBC News?
The same group who faked GM pickup explosions just to make "news"?  Right.

:This is the end. By the finish of the Clinton administration, your
:RKBA will be null and void. Tough titty.

It is true that we face even greater obstacles to our rights, betrayed by
those lying politicians who swear an oath to protect the Constitution "from
all enemies, both foreign and domestic."  But the People will take only so
many lies and deceits.

:You had better discover ways to make do without firearms. The number of
:cases of firearms abuses has ruined your cause. There is nothing you
:can do about it. Those who live by the sword shall die by it.

Then the criminals who live by murder shall die by it.  Honest, law-abiding
citizens need have no fear on that count.  You, however, will evidently
die by (or at least in) ignorance.  And the number of firearms self-defenses
shall spell out our ultimate victory.

:The press is against you, the public (the voting public) is against
:you, the flow of history is against you ... this is it !

The flow of history was against the Founding Fathers, but they managed to
successfully form the first real free republic on the face of this planet,
a republic that has become the model for all others to follow.  The press
is against us, for its own selfish motivations.  And the people will soon
realize the depths of deceit being spread by that media, and nullify its
ill-directed power.  The People are with us.

:Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
:them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
:Your neighbors will not help you. They will consider you more if an
:immediate threat than the abstract 'criminal'.

I shall never submit to an illegal, unConstitutional police state.  I will
take my own vow to uphold the Constitution, and I shall defend it and my
country against a tyrannical government gone mad, should it become
necessary.

:Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
:are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
:be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...

I will not be your sacrificial sheep, and I shall not bow down to you or
anyone else who seeks to control my life.  Being an unarmed target is the
SUREST way of encouraging criminals, and believe me, I shall avoid it as
much as possible.  Then I shall be as safe as possible.  I will answer
with violence only when no other option exists, but I shall surely answer.

Mike Ruff


Pete Young, on the Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:29:21 GMT wibbled:

: : Tsk, tsk, tsk.  Another newbie bites the dust, eh?  They'll learn.

: Newbie. Sorry to disappoint you, but as far as the Internet goes I was
: in Baghdad while you were still in your dads bag.
Is this bit funny?

: Most of the people who made this group interesting 3 or 4 years ago
: are no longer around and I only have time to make a random sweep
: once a week or so. Hence I missed most of this thread.
I'm terribly sorry.

: Based on your previous postings, apparently devoid of humour, sarcasm,
: wit, or the apparent capacity to walk and chew gum at the same time, I
: assumed you were serious. Mea culpa.
I know, I know. Subtlety is sort of, you know, subtle, isn't it.

: Still, it's nice to see that BNR are doing so well that they can afford
: to overpay some contractors to sit and read news all day.
That's foreign firms for you.

..and a touchy newbie, at that.

What's the matter, too much starch in the undies?
--

Nick (the Considerate Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford   None Gum-Chewer

M'Lud.


From article <1993Apr20.195853.16179@samba.oit.unc.edu>, by dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina):
You're using drivers version 2.02 or earlier. The latest is 2.03, available
from their BBS or by snailmail. It at least fixes the WfW problem.

The reason I wanted to reply in public instead of private mail is because
of following: I talked to their tech support a few days ago and was told
that I can expect a new version near the end of the month. Which should be
about now...

However, I have a problem when switching back from a DOS session in standard
mode. Apparently they don't know of this problem and seem to be surprised
why anybody would want to use standard mode at all.

It's a great card for the price, at least when I bought it. Now there may be
better alternatives.


Whoa. What did you say your name was? Address, SSN? Smoking foods, eh?
I think the gov't would like to know about this...


The 5426 has its own set of drivers. You may be using the
drivers intended for the 5420 or 5422 by mistake.

Be sure you have the 5426 driver version 1.2

Don't quote me on this one, but I'd steer clear of the
multi resolution driver that allows you to change resolution
without exiting Windows.  I think it's buggy.

Version 1.3 drivers are due to be release by Cirrus soon.
Unfortunately, their not available via FTP, you have to dial
up their BBS in the USA.  I do this from NZ using a 14.4k modem
to cut down on phone bills.  It took me around 7 minutes to
download the v1.2 driver.

Good Luck,


 Stick an ME33 on the front.  I've got a Laser on the front of my GPz,
and it has been a fantastic tire.  Best front tire I've ever had.


It works on xterms. At least I have no problem with it. - Back to the original
question:

I usually start new xterms by selecting the proper menu entry in my desktop
menu. Here is a sample command:

	xterm -sl 999 -n ls12i -title ls12i -e rlogin ls12i &

The -n and -title options give the text for window and icon. As I use the
tcsh (a wonderful extension of the csh), I can do the following:

I have an

	alias precmd echo -n '^[]2\;${HOST}:$cwd^G'

in my ~/.tcshrc. This is a special alias for tvtwm. It is executed each time
before printing the prompt. So, I have the current host name and the current
directory path in the title bar of my xterms.

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 ___/   /                   P.O. Box 500 500, D-4600 Dortmund 50, F.R. Germany
 \  \  /                    Phone: +49 (231) 755 6142, Fax: +49 (231) 755 6555
  \__\/                     Email: markhof@ls12.informatik.uni-dortmund.de


Did you check with the Afghans before posting this?   They
might disagree.


I don't know how quickly YOU can get a woodstove to heat up from a cold
start, but mine takes about three hours.

Mox nix.  The BD's were prepared to provide their own heat and light,
and were doing so for weeks while the power was out.  That means the
compound contained containers of flammable liquids or gases (that could
be busted by a tank intrusion), plus ignition sources, which no one can
tell for sure were all off at the time.

On the contrary.  We are proposing alternate scenarios.  The people who
are coming to wild conclusions are the feds, who are absolutely positive
how the fire started, even though none of them were in a position to
see it, either (and the stories they "hear" from their prisoners changes
hourly).
--


Apparently not. Many people complain about the confusion that
results from the filemanager/progman split. It's just a basic
flaw.


I noticed this dead horse in your Keywords line. Is this the famous scarlet horse
of Babylon that the Beast (that's 666 for you illuminatti) rides on in those
wonderful mediaeval manuscripts. If so, I fear your announcement that the old
girl is dead may be premature. I bet $20 on her to place in the 6th race at The
Downs last Sunday, and she slid in a bad fifth. So she is not dead. She is just
comatose. (like god that way, I suppose).

Ninja Gourmet
Will fight for food.


Their phone number is 1-800-377-9777. The last catalog shows three
Oaks jerseys: 36 Home, 42 Home, 39 Home - they're each $165.00.  All their
merchandise is handmade and is an authentic replica.  I own a couple -
and they are excellent. They also have wool caps and jackets.  You should
call to get on their mailing list even if you can't afford their prices.


/(emery)
/The one single historic event that has had the biggest impact on the
/world over the centuries is the resurrection of Jesus.

This is hardly possible, as the majority of people in the world were
born, lived their life, and died, without ever knowing anything about
Christ.  The majority of the rest of the world have decided that he
is not who Emery thinks he is.

/(emery)
/Why were the writers of the New Testament documents so convinced that
/Jesus really did rise from the dead?
/We have four gospel accounts.

I am leaving out all "proofs" of Emery's which rely on quoting the
bible as proof.  Circular reasoning, etc.  There have been occasions
already stated many times for later generations of Xtians to change,
edit, or otherwise alter the bible to fit their political gospel.
And if we accept the bible as true just because the bible says it
is true, then (to be fair) we have to do the same to the Bhagavad-Gita
and the Koran, both of which contradict the bible.

Enough said.

/(emery)
/Yet we have no reason to believe these disciples to be immoral and dishonest.
/We have no historic information that would lead us to the conclusion that
/these people were not God-fearing people who sincerely and whole-heartedly
/believed that the resurrection of their Lord Jesus was a real event.
/And for what gain would they lie?  To make a stand at that time meant
/persecution, imprisonment, and perhaps even death.

Again, this is only the biblical account and there is no independent proof
of any of this happening.  It just isn't there.

Besides, simply being sincere or willing to die for your faith does not
make your faith correct.  There are Muslims dying in Bosnia right now;
does the fact that they are willing to die for Islam mean that Islam is
the correct religion?

(emery)
/History bears out the persecution of Christians.  Roman historian, Cornelius
/Tacitus, Govenor of Asia, in A.D. 112, writing of Nero's reign, alluded to
/the torture of Christians in Rome:

All you have proven is that these people were tortured for their faith.  That
does not prove that their faith is true or correct; it just means that they
were sincere in their beliefs.

Being willing to die for what you believe doesn't make your belief the truth.
It's not that easy.  And minority religions have always suffered torture;
Muslims suffer torture and harassment in India and Bosnia today.  All religions
are harassed in China today.  You haven't proven anything so far.

/(emery)
/With all the suffering and persecution that it meant to be a believer, it
/would be quite probable that at least one of those in the supposed conspiracy
/would come forward and confess that the whole thing was a big hoax.

Not if they didn't believe that it was a hoax.

/(emery)
/Yet not one did.  It seems rather reasonable that the disciples did not make
/up the resurrection but sincerely believed that Jesus had actually risen
/from the dead; especially in light of the sufferings that came upon those
/who believed.

The followers of Muhammad firmly believed in the miracles that the Koran
says Muhammad performed.  They were attacked and slaughtered for their
beliefs.  They didn't denounce Muhammad or Islam.  If you are correct,
then that means Islam is the true faith.


United States TV Schedule:
April 18   Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh   1 EST  ABC  (to Eastern time zone)
April 18   St. Louis at Chicago             12 CDT ABC  (to Cent/Mou time zones)
April 18   Los Angeles at Calgary           12 PDT ABC  (to Pacific time zone)
April 20   Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh   7:30   ESPN
April 22   TBA                              7:30   ESPN
April 24   TBA                              7:30   ESPN

If somebody would send me the CBC/TSN schedule I'll post that as well.


If there are many as..., er, people in the USA who reason like the
above, then it should not be surprising that the current plot has been
allowed to happen...

Regards,
Vesselin


Nintendo 8 bit system, power pad, light gun (zapper), 2 controllers

Games: Supermario, duck hunt, power field, and wings.

Asking $80.


Does anyone know if a source for the TCM3105 modem chips (as used in the
Baycom and my PMP modems)?  Ideally, something that is geared toward
hobbyists:  small quantity, mail order, etc.

For years, we've been buying them from a distributor (Marshall) by the
hundreds for PMP kits.  But orders have dropped to the point where we can
no longer afford to offer this service.  And all of the distributors I've
checked have some crazy minimum order ($100, or so).

I'd like to find a source for those still interested in building PMP kits.
Any suggestions?


I would like the opinion of netters on a subject that has been bothering my
wife and me lately: liturgy, in particular, Catholic liturgy.  In the last few
years it seems that there are more and more ad hoc events during Mass.  It's
driving me crazy!  The most grace-filled aspect of a liturgical tradition is
that what happens is something we _all_ do together, because we all know how to
do it.  Led by the priest, of course, which makes it a kind of dialogue we
present to God.  But the best Masses I've been to were participatory prayers.

Lately, I think the proportion of participation has fallen, and the proportion
of sitting there and watching, or listening, or generally being told what to do
(which is necessary because no one knows what's happening next) is growing.
Example.  Last Sunday (Palm Sunday) we went to the local church.  Usually
on Palm Sunday, the congregation participates in reading the Passion, taking
the role of the mob.  The theology behind this seems profound--when we say
"Crucify him" we mean it.  We did it, and if He came back today we'd do it
again.  It always gives me chills.  But last week we were "invited" to sit
during the Gospel (=Passion) and _listen_.  Besides the Orwellian "invitation",
I was really saddened to have my (and our) little role taken away.  This seems
typical of a shift of participation away from the people, and toward the
musicians, readers, and so on.  New things are introduced in the course of the
liturgy and since no one knows what's happening, the new things have to be
explained, and pretty soon instead of _doing_ a lot of the Mass we're just
sitting there listening (or spacing out, in my case) to how the Mass is about
to be done.  In my mind, I lay the blame on liturgy committees made up of lay
"experts", but that may not be just.  I do think that a liturgy committee has a
bias toward doing something rather than nothing--that's just a fact of
bureaucratic life--even though a simpler liturgy may in fact make it easier for
people to be aware of the Lord's presence.

So we've been wondering--are we the oddballs, or is the quality of the Mass
going down?  I don't mean that facetiously.  We go to Mass every Thursday or
Friday and are reminded of the power of a very simple liturgy to make us aware
of God's presence.  But as far as the obligatory Sunday Masses...maybe I should
just offer it up :)  Has anyone else noticed declining congregational
participation in Catholic Masses lately?


Between Adam and Eve and Golgotha the whole process of the fall of man
occurred.  This involved a gradual dimming of consciousness of the spiritual
world.  This is discernable in the world outlooks of different peoples through
history.  The Greek, for example, could say, "better a beggar in the land
of the living than a king in the land of the dead." (Iliad, I think).

The question of what happens to human beings who died before Christ is
an ever present one with Christians.  I am not ready to conscign Adam
or Abraham, or even Cain to eternal damnation.  Yet they all died in their
sins, in the Christian sense.  The same can be said of the whole of  Gentile
humanity, and also of the unrepentant malefactor on the cross next to
him.  I do not limit the power of Christ to save even him, through whom
Satan would mock his deed of salvation at the very moment of its fulfillment.

It is possible to experience eternity in a passing moment.  The
relationship of eternity to duration is not simply one of indefinitely
extended conditions of Greenwich mean time. It is possible to imagine
an eternity of agony or bliss - or even many of them - in the
spiritual world during the time between earthly death and a new birth.

It was also a standard belief among many peoples that even the righteous
were lost. This again is the result of the loss of the paradisal consciousness
that fled from us after the fall, with our ever increasing involvement with
the sense world.

It would be interesting to share in the results of your studies of ancient
people's ideas of life after death.

Mankind fell into mist and darkness, and at "the turning point of
time" a new light entered into the world.  The light still grows, and
we are developing the eyes with which to see by it.  Much new
revelation and growth in under- standing lies before us.  Our new
vision and understanding is still very feeble, but it contains
something new that will grow in time to embrace that which is old and
much more as well.

(At this point I should acknowledge openly my debt to the work of Rudolf
Steiner, founder of Anthroposophy, for  many insights that have led me to my
views on this subject).

The way you refer to it as "doctrine" puts a modern intellectual coloring
on it. I think it was much less abstract and much more real and spiritually
concrete, a teaching that struck much closer to home than our doctrines or
teachings today can be received.

I am not so ready to attribute widespread notions in antiquity to
simple dispersion from an original source.  Even if they were passed
on, the question is, to what extent did they reflect real perception
and experience?  The similarity in the midst of great variety of
expression of the different people's ideas of the time immediately
after death testifies to the presence of an underlying reality.  In
any case, we study geometry not by reading old manuscripts of Euclid,
but by contemplating the principles themselves.

On the other hand, there is one notion firmly embedded in Christianity
that originated most definitely in a pagan source.  The idea that the
human being consists essentially of soul only, and that the soul is
created at birth, was consciously adopted from Aristotle, whose ideas
dominated Christian thought for fifteen hundred years and still does
today. He was at once the father of modern thought and at the same
time lived during that darkened time when the perception of our
eternal spiritual being had grown dim.

Indeed. I should also clarify that I do not deny that eternal
irrevocable damnation is a real possibility.  But the narrow range in
which we conceive of the decisive moment, i.e. after the end of a
single earthly life, is not in my mind sufficient to embrace the
reality, and I think that is why the early creeds were couched in
terms that did not try to spell it out.


Yes, I do agree with your definition.  My use of the term "always" is
rather deceptive, I admit.

Hold it.  I said that all of scripture is true.  However, discerning
exactly what Jesus, Paul and company were trying to say is not always so
easy.  I don't believe that Paul was trying to say that all women should
behave that way.  Rather, he was trying to say that under the circumstances
at the time, the women he was speaking to would best avoid volubility and
cover their heads.  This has to do with maintaining a proper witness toward
others.  Remember that any number of relativistic statements can be derived
from absolutes.  For instance, it is absolutely right for Christians to
strive for peace.  However, this does not rule out trying to maintain world
peace by resorting to violence on occasion.  (Yes, my opinion.)

Sure.  The Bible preaches absolute truths.  However, exactly what those
truths are is sometimes a matter of confusion.  As I said, the Bible does
preach absolute truths.  Sometimes those fundamental principles are crystal
clear (at least to evangelicals).  Sometimes they are not so clear to
everyone (e.g. should baptism be by full immersion or not, etc).  That is
largely because sometimes, it is not explicitly spelled out whether the writers
are speaking to a particular culture or to Christianity as a whole.  This is
where scholarship and the study of Biblical contexts comes in.

God revealed his Truths to the world, through His Word.  It is utterly
unavoidable, however, that some people whill come up with alternate
interpretations.  Practically anything can be misinterpreted, especially
when it comes to matters of right and wrong.  Care to deny that?


Okay Mr. Dyer, we're properly impressed with your philosophical skills and
ability to insult people. You're a wonderful speaker and an adept politician.
However, I believe that all you were asked to do, was simply provide scientific
research refuting the work of Olney. I don't think the original poster sought
to start a philisophical debate. she wanted some information. Given a little
effort one could justify that shooting oneself with a .45 before breakfast is a
healthy practice. But we're not particularily interested in what you can
verbally prove/disprove or rationalize. Where's the research? Where are the
studies?

I appoligize if this sounds flamish. I simply would like to see the thread get
back on track.

Lone Wolf


	Ask the practitioner whether he uses the pre-sterilized disposable
needles, or if he reuses needles, sterilizing them between use.  In the
former case there's no conceivable way to get AIDS from the needles.  In
the latter case it's highly unlikely (though many practitioners use the
disposable variety anyway).

euclid


...the question is: for how long? Even if the FBI had done nothing, I guess the
BDs would have committed suicide, but maybe not until hunger and thirst gave them
the choice between sucide or surrender.
The BDs was warned in beforehand about the FBI action. They HAD the chance to
surrender and get a fair trial. No matter who started the fire, the BDs were
responsible for 80+ peole dying. No one else.


Rob,

their e-mail adress is support@asymetrix.com

I've heard V.2.0 is in beta.

have a look at bitserv.list.toolb-l - which is a toolbook list.


Paraphrase of initial post:

	Can I fight a speeding ticket in court?

My reply:

       Fight your ticket : California edition by David Brown 1st ed.
       Berkeley, CA : Nolo Press, 1982

The second edition is out (but not in UCB's library).  Good luck; let
us know how it goes.


	Two thoughts.

	- I think that psychologically it will be easier for the next
generation to accept genetic manipulation.  It seems that people frown
upon 'messing with Nature', ignoring our eons-old practice of doing just that.
Any new human intervention is 'arrogance and hubris' and manipulation
we routinely do is 'natural' and certainly 'not a big deal'.

	- Most interesting human traits will probably be massively
polygenetic and be full of trade-offs.  In addition, without a positive
social environment for the cultivation of genetic gifts, having them won't
be the advantage it's made out to be.  Some people will certainly pursue it
as if it is the Grail, but we know how most of those quests turn out.


ames.arc.nasa.gov not sure what subdirectory thou..

==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked


Well, it all depends on the motherboard implimentation.

I'm sure someone will make a vlb motherboard that takes 1x9
simms and uses a pentium processor.  I'm also sure that there
will be some motherboards that won't.


I don't know if there's a corresponding patch for Solaris 2.1, but this
sounds like the following bug which is supposedly fixed in 100492-06, the
Solaris 1.x olwm Jumbo patch:

	1108642 - window system can hang in an errant pointer grab

Actually, I suspect that the OW 3.1 problem may be different, since the
README file says that this patch is just a SunOS 4.x version of the OW 3.1
olwm (but maybe that line came from an earlier version of the patch, and
they forgot to take it out in the -06 version).
--
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.


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40 Round Ammo Box with Flip Top Lid
Barrel Plug
Instruction Manual
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Contact me at:

zborowsk@spot.colorado.edu


The O's just lost to the Rangers a few minutes ago I was not too happy about
the pitching of Rick Sutcliffe (6 runs in 6 innings, 5 in the 3?) This puts
me in remembering the 1990 O's season. After '89 we didn't do much over
winter and we wound up in 5th. Now I know that Mussina, McDonald, and Rhodes
are better pitching prospects than Ballard and Milacki but are any other
Oriole fans scared out there?

Admiral Steve C. Liu


:Does anybody know of any information regarding the implementaion of total
: quality management, quality control, quality assurance in the delivery of
: health care service.  I would appreciate any information.  If there is enough
:interest, I will post the responses.

This is in fact a hot topic in medicine these days, and much of the
medical literature is devoted to this.  The most heavily funded studies
these days are for outcome research, and physicians (and others!) are
constantly questionning whether what we do it truly effective in any given
situation.  QA activities are a routine part of every hospital's
administrative function and are required by accreditation agencies.  There
are even entire publications devoted to QA issues.


David,

  As an economist, I'm sure you can see the flaws in this logic. If the (naive)
market is flooded with proprietary, but weak, encryption, then truly strong
encryption will be unable to compete. Suppose the govt had a secret TV broadcast
standard, and then sold TVs below cost. Private industry has a better standard,
but it's not as widespread due to the govt early flooding of the market
with cheap proprietary sets. Even though the industry's technology is better,
the programming is being broadcast to the govt's unduplicatable standard.
Who could compete?

  The other flaw, of course, is that making something voluntary today ensures
that it will be voluntary in the future. I went to renew my CA drivers license
last week and was required not only to give my SSN, but to PRODUCE AN SSN
CARD to veryify the number!  Note that a federal law once said that no state
or local govt could ever require the use of SSNs for drivers license registration
(specifically!).

   I do not trust the govt that says "trust me on this even though we could
have an arrangement that doesn't require your trust."  Something is big
time fishy. If you look more carefully, you'll see it.

  -mel


To make room for Harkey, the Cubs sent Shawn Boskie down to AAA.


     If you have the GRASP animation system, then yes, it's quite easy.
You simply use GLIB to extract the image (each "frame" in a .GL is
actually a complete .PCX or .CLP file), then use one of MANY available
utilities to convert it.  If you don't have the GRASP package, I'm afraid
I can't help you.  Sorry.
     By the way, before you ask, GRASP (GRaphics Animation System for
Professionals) is a commercial product that sells for just over US$300
from most mail-order companies I've seen.  And no, I don't have it.  :)

                                               Corey Webb


I have a lot of info about this disease.  I am posting a small amount of
it that I extracted.  If more is required, e-mail me @
ls8139@gemini.albany.edu.  Please, it takes me some time to upload it, so
be advised, only request it if you *really* want it.

here is some info from InfoTrac - Health Reference Center

Also, check you local of univeristy library.  They most likely have the
InfoTrac cd-rom this info was taken from......
====================================

InfoTrac - Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92

 Heading:   CANDIDA ALBICANS
             !Dictionary Definition

    1.    Mosby's Medical and Nursing Dictionary, 2nd edition
               COPYRIGHT 1986 The C.V. Mosby Company

      Candida albicans
      -------------------------------------------------------
      A common, budding,  yeastlike, microscopic fungal
      organism normally present in the mucous membranes of
      the mouth, intestinal tract, and vagina and on the skin
      of healthy people. Under certain circumstances, it may
      cause superficial infections of the mouth or vagina
      and, less commonly, serious invasive systemic infection
      and toxic reaction. See also candidiasis.

==============================

InfoTrac - Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92
  THE MATERIAL CONTAINED IN Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92 IS PROVIDED
  ONLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS
  MEDICAL ADVICE OR INSTRUCTION.  CONSULT YOUR HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
  FOR ADVICE RELATING TO A MEDICAL PROBLEM OR CONDITION.

 Heading:   CANDIDA ALBICANS

    1.     Yogurt cure for Candida. (acidophilus) il v22 East
       West Natural Health July-August '92 p17(1)
           TEXT AVAILABLE
 TEXT
COPYRIGHT East West Partners 1992
  Another folk remedy receives the blessing of medical study.
Researchers have found that eating a cup of yogurt a day drastically
reduces a woman's chances of getting vaginal candida, a yeast infection.
  For the year-long study, researchers at Long Island Jewish Medical
Center in New Hyde Park, New York, recruited 13 women who suffered from
chronic yeast infections. For the first 6 months, the women each day ate
8 ounces of yogurt containing Lactobacillus acidophilus. For the second
6 months, the women did not eat yogurt. The researchers examined the
women each month and found that incidents of colonization and infection
were significantly lower during the period when the women ate yogurt.
  The fungus Candida albicans can live in the body without doing harm.
It is an overproliferation of the fungus that leads to infection. The
researchers concluded that the L. acidophilus bacteria found in some
brands of yogurt retard overgrowth of the fungus. Streptococcus
thermophilus and L. bulgaricus are the two bacteria most commonly used
in commercial yogurt production. Neither one appears to exert a
protective effect against Candida albicans, however. Women who want to
try yogurt as a preventive measure should choose a brand that lists
acidophilus in its contents.
--- end ---

===================================

InfoTrac - Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92
  THE MATERIAL CONTAINED IN Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92 IS PROVIDED
  ONLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS
  MEDICAL ADVICE OR INSTRUCTION.  CONSULT YOUR HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
  FOR ADVICE RELATING TO A MEDICAL PROBLEM OR CONDITION.

 Heading:   CANDIDA ALBICANS

    1.     Candida (Monilia). (Infections Caused by Fungi)
       (Infectious Diseases) by Harold C. Neu The Columbia
       Univ. Coll. of Physicians & Surgeons Complete Home
       Medical Guide Edition 2 '89 p472(1)
           TEXT AVAILABLE
 TEXT
COPYRIGHT Crown Publishers Inc. 1989
  Candida (Monilia)
  This disease is usually caused by Candida albicans, a fungus that we
all carry at one time or another. In some circumstances, though, the
organisms proliferate, producing symptomatic infection of the mouth,
intestines, vagina, or skin. When the mouth or vagina are infected, the
disease is commonly called thrush.
  Vaginitis caused by Candida often afflicts women on birth control
pills or antibiotics. There is itching and a white, cheesy discharge.
Among narcotic addicts, Candida infections can lead to heart valve
inflammation.
  Diagnosis of Candida infections is confirmed by cultures and blood
tests. Treatment can be with amphotericin B or orally with ketoconazole.
There is no evidence that Candida in the intestine of normal individuals
leads to disease. All people at one time or another have Candida in
their intestines. Claims for any benefit from special diets or chronic
antifungal agents is not based on any solid evidence.
--- end ---

==========================
I hope this is informative.
Larry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Live From New York, It's SATURDAY NIGHT...


Notwithstanding all the legitimate fuss about this proposal, how much
of a change is it?  ATT's last product in this area (a) was priced over
$1000, as I suspect 'clipper' phones will be; (b) came to the customer
with the key automatically preregistered with government authorities. Thus,
aside from attempting to further legitimize and solidify the fed's posture,
Clipper seems to be "more of the same", rather than a new direction.
   Yes, technology will eventually drive the cost down and thereby promote
more widespread use- but at present, the man on the street is not going
to purchase a $1000 crypto telephone, especially when the guy on the other
end probably doesn't have one anyway.  Am I missing something?
   The real question is what the gov will do in a year or two when air-
tight voice privacy on a phone line is as close as your nearest pc.  That
has got to a problematic scenario for them, even if the extent of usage
never surpasses the 'underground' stature of PGP.


How can I obtain public information (documentation and sources)
about Xservers implemented with graphics processors?

I am specially interested in Xservers developed for the TMS34020
Texas Instruments graphic processor.


I'm looking into getting an external, reasonably fast (<350 ms avg access time)
Multispin CD-ROM drive that supports "Photo CD Multi Session", has audio
output, and SCSI interface for connection to the PAS16 SCSI port. Does anyone
have any comments/experiences/warnings/recommendations they'd like to share
concerning the Texel DM-5024 and/or Toshiba TXM-3401E and/or others. THANKS!


Hello--  I'm currently designing the architecture of a chip which is
intended to help speed up common operations on a windowing system such as
X.  A friend and I are designing the chip as the final course project for
an advanced computer architecture course taught by Dr. Fred Brooks at
UNC-Chapel Hill.  While we feel that we've got a pretty solid design
currently, we'd really like to get ahold of some frequency data from an
X-Windows server so that we can make the most effective use of our bit
budget.

Unfortunately, I've been unable to find anything of this sort in the
various X FAQs, or X manuals that I've seen.  Does anyone have some type of
frequency data, like how many Copy-rectangle operations vs draw-lines, and
things of that sort?  Or, barring that, a program that records requests to
the server into a logfile that I can munge on myself?

Any and all help would be very appreciated.

Many thanks,
    ---Mark


The ice princess next door makes a habit of flooring her cage out of the
driveway when she sees me coming. Probably only hits 25mph, or so. (I made
the mistake of waving to a neighbor. She has some sort of grudge, now.)

I was riding downhill at ~60mph on a local backroad when a brown dobie came
flashing through the brush at well over 30mph, on an intercept course with
my front wheel. The dog had started out at the top of the hill when it heard
me and still had a lead when it hit the road. The dog was approaching from
my left, and was running full tilt to get to my bike on the other side of
the road before I went by. Rover was looking back at me to calculate the
final trajectory. Too bad it didn't notice the car approaching at 50+mph
from the other direction.

I got a closeup view of the our poor canine friend's noggin careening off
the front bumper, smacking the asphalt, and getting runover by the front
tire. It managed a pretty good yelp, just before impact. (peripheral
imminent doom?) I guess the driver didn't see me or they probably would have
swerved into my lane. The squeegeed pup actually got up and headed back
home, but I haven't seen it since.

Sniff.

Sometimes Fate sees you and smiles.


[In response to a report by CBN News correspondent Ken Lormond about a
meeting between Slick Willie and homosexual activists:]

Lormond: "But Clinton will not be attending a rally by homosexuals in
Washington later this month.  He will instead be out of town, on a
retreat with Senate Democrats."

Robertson: "Yeah, he'd better retreat."  [Laughter, followed by
sustained applause]

[Later, in a report by correspondent Deborah Whitsen on the fizzling
boycott instigated by homosexuals against Colorado:]

Whitsen: "Colorado ski resorts have seen record crowds this year
despite a call by homosexual activists for boycott of the state ...
There have been record snowfalls in the mountains this year, and the
skiers have been coming in droves ..."

Robertson: "And God said, let it snow ..."  [More sustained applause]


What I was talking about was using an Tek terminal as your X display.  I
should be possible to write an X server that does this as far as I can
tell, but what I'm asking is if there is already one.

--
mike@hopper.acs.virginia.edu


    >Version 1.3 drivers are due to be release by Cirrus soon.
    >Unfortunately, their not available via FTP, you have to dial
    >up their BBS in the USA.  I do this from NZ using a 14.4k modem
    >to cut down on phone bills.  It took me around 7 minutes to
    >download the v1.2 driver.

	Could you please upload to any of the ftp sites (such as
	ftp.ciaca.indiana.edu) and announce it here? This will benefit
	people does not have access to their BBS in USA (like me :-))?

	Thanks a lot.


Yeah, the "Feingold Diet" is a load of crap.  Children diagnosed with ADD
who are placed on this diet show no improvement in their intellectual and
social skills, which in fact continue to decline.  Of course, the parents
who are enthusiastic about this approach lap it up at the expense of their
children's development.  So much for the value of "interesting anecdotal
results".  People will believe anything if they want to.


Is this an advantage to MS Windows or to Xt?  I used to think it
was a big advantage for Xt, but I am not at all sure anymore...

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Unless otherwise noted, I am mainly interested in USED items.
If you have (any of) the following for sale, please contact me:
        EMail           mbeck@vtssi.vt.edu
        Phone           (703)552-4381
        USMail          Michael Beck
                        1200 Progress Street #5500E
                        Blacksburg, Virginia 24060

Please give as much info as possible (brand, age, condition, etc)
~~~~~~~~~~WANTED as of 12AM, 4/16/93~~~~~~~~~~

COMPUTER EQUIP:

1       CHEAP tape drive - pretty much any kind (Used)

1       Memory for PS/2 Model 50Z (New or Used)

1       Macintosh computer

1       486 66mhz chip (New or Used)

1       COLORADO tape drive, 250 megabyte, preferr. w/ 5 tapes (Used)

1       101 key-AT keyboard

1       High Density (1.2 mb) 5 1/4 disk drive

1       Printer - OMS410 or HP LASER or HP DESKJET series

1       Printer - 24 pin or DESKJET

1       High Density (1.2 mb) 5 1/4 disk drive EXTERNAL

1       Adaptec 1542 SCSI 16-bit HD/FD controller (Used)

1       Piggy back memory expansion for INTEL INBOARD 386

1       130 MB IDE Hard Drive

2       17" monitor, 1280 resolution, .28 dot pitch or better, digital

mult.   XT's, AT's and laptop systems to go to Russia

NON-COMPUTER EQUIP:

1       drum set

mult.   amps for a band

1       TV - 27" or bigger, stereo

1       VCR - 4 Heads, stereo

1       Receiver - 100 Watts or more w/ Dolby Prologic Surround Sound
                capability

1       Bed - Full or Queen sized - LOCAL OFFERS only, please


  [The original question was about who started the fire and whether the
   "madmen" were inside or outside the compound.  To which I replied on
   the possible sanity level of those inside and outside.]

I paid my taxes.  There was no reference to sex or religion on the form.
The comments above and below were meant to address who might be unstable
enough to keep children in a building with tear gas or start a fire.

I agree that the BATF handled the affair badly.

Do you believe they would put impostors before the national tv cameras?

At this point, we are getting conflicting reports from the survivors.
Best wait til more light is shed upon them.  Of course, this is no
good if you believe in eternal darkness.


The NASM photo archives are open to the public.  All (or almost all)
still pictures in the collection are available for viewing, but I
don't know about films.  At least it might be worth a try.  I'm not
sure if appointments are necessary, but I think not.

Good luck, and let us know what you find.


In SGI's distribution with their Indigo line (others as well, possibly),
they include source code for a GL widget that fits on top of Motif, and
one that's Xt based as well.  You may wish to ask IBM whether they
support this.
--


This is about the third person who's parroted the FBI's line about the
fires being set "six hours after the tear gas was injected."  Suppose you
want to explain to us the videotape footage shown on national TV last night
in which a tank with the gas-injecting tubes is pulling its injection tubes
out of the second story of a building as the building begins to belch smoke
and then fire?

Do tell.


This makes 5! It IS SPRING!

Neither were we. Read for a few days, then try again.


[ These two paragraphs are from two different posts.  In splicing them
  together it is not my intention to change Steve's meaning or misrepresent
  him in any way.  I don't *think* I've done so. ]

Part of what started this was my earlier example of Illinois, USA requiring
anyone doing more than X automobile transfers a year (X = 10, I think)
to become licensed as a used car dealer.  In addition, it requirs anyone
with a used car dealer's license to own at least 10 cars at a time, all the
time.

Let me continue with this example and try to answer Steve's questions.

Steve, let's say you have the talent and inclination to fix up and resell
cars.  Either you've gotten good enough at it in your spare time to bump
up against these limits, or you would like to do it full-time but these
stupid, arbitrary laws prevent you from starting out small and pulling
yourself up.  So I'm protected from a hungry neighborhood competitor willing
to take a low profit while working extra hard to fulfill my needs, and you're
protected from doing what you want with your life.

Here's what I see libertarianism offering you:

Your money is truly yours; it belongs to you.  You can use it to buy a car.
If you use it to buy a car, it is truly your car; it belongs to you.  You
can use your money to fix up that car.  Since it is your car, you can sell
that car.

Your life is truly yours; it belongs to you.  It matters not if someone
thinks that it's "wrong" for you to buy and sell 10 cars within 12 months
rather than, say, 9 cars.  They may dissaprove, but it is not their life or
their money, it is your life and your money.

My money is truly mine; it belongs to me.  I can use it to buy a car.
Perhaps your car.  Perhaps that 10th car, the one that someone, somewhere
dissaproves of you selling and, presumably, of me buying.

That someone could go to the government and insist that the government make
us stop it.  But the government would be powerless to stop us from doing
what we like with our own property, in the abscence of fraud or agression.
And it would be powerless to stop us from associating with each other.

This does not seem to me to be a utopian dream, but basic human decency
and common sense.  A real grass-roots example of freedom and liberty.
And yes, not having a few people acting as our masters, approving or
rejecting each of our basic transactions with each other, does strike me
as a wonderful way to improve the human condition.


In NY City, the number to dial is 958... It seems to be different in different
areas.


This seems to be a simple problem but I just cannot solve it.
I wrote a C program to draw some polygons on the screen, and I want to
print it on my printer. So, I press "print-screen" on the keyboard.
The problem is the printer just print out some ASCII characters.
Is there any other way to print the screen without using "print-screen"????
Please help!


My husband woke up three days ago with a small sore spot
(a spot about the size of a nickel) on one of his testicles. Bottom side,
no knots or lumps, just a little sore spot.  He says it reminds him of
how a bruise feels.  He has no recollection of hitting it or anything like
that that would cause a bruise. (He asssures me he'd remember something
like that :-)

Any clues as to what it might be?  He's somewhat of a hypochondriac (sp?)
so he's sure he's gonna die. . .

Thanks!!


Do you have the X source code?  Simply look in mit/clients/xwininfo/xwininfo.c and you
will find out exactly how to do it.  :-)


Is it just me, or does Bichette look totally lost in the outfield?  He
misplayed Martinez fly-out into a double against the Expos, misplayed
Alou's single into a triple (Alou tagged out at 3rd after over-sliding
the bag) and now he misplays another out into a 3 run triple...add in his
wonderful batting average and we have one heck of a player!


:
 (lots of stuff about the Nicene Creed deleted which can be read in the
  original basenote.  I will also leave it up to other LDS netters to
  take Mr. Weiss to task on using Mormon Doctrine to declare the difinitive
  word on what the LDS Church teaches as doctrine.  Hopefully the LDS
  netters will be amiable in their explanation.)

Since it would do no good to rebut what Mr. Weiss has stated on the origin
of the Nicene Creed and its status as devine and inspired (I say "no good"
because it cannot be proved through discussion or debate as to whether or not
the authors of the Creed were inspired), I leave you (it will be some time
before I post again) with the following thought authored by Eugene England,
Professor of English at Brigham Young University.  Mr. England wrote the
following as part of a book review section in This People's magazine (Spring
1993 edition):

  "I conclude with a little sermon because I believe we will not be a Mormon--
  or human--family until we can get over labeling and rejecting each other
  with terms like feminist or patriarchal, liberal or conservative (Christian
  or non-Christian -- Hal 8^).  When we are tempted to draw a circle around
  a set of beliefs and traditions and styles and call it American, then exclude
  those who don't fit, it may be well to consider that perhaps the most central
  defining characteristic of a good American might be "one who doesn't draw
  exclusive circles" -- that the surest way of excluding ourselves from the
  central American ideal is by excluding others.  And when we are tempted to
  draw a circle around "Mormon" or "Christian," to decide who is "orthodox"
  and who isn't by how much they agree with us, it might be well to consider
  that the central pillar of Christ's "orthodoxy" is our ability to love
  unconditionally those who are different and include them in our family.

  "I recently spent some time in a "Christian" bookstore in California. The
  service was excellent, the clerks and customers all smiling, neat, and
  well-scrubbed, and there were the expected wholesome offerings of scriptural
  commentaries, sentimental fiction, and collections of evangelistic sermons.
  But I was dismayed to find how much shelf space was given to attacking
  others, often viciously---whether the political left, our modern American
  culture, or other religions.  A whole section was devoted to "Cults and the
  Occult," and as you might expect, Mormonism was right there under the same
  rubric and indictment (often by the same authors) as Satanism.  And I found
  I could either rent or buy (in English or Spanish) copies of The God Makers
  (that absurdly inaccurate, even libelous, but very popular and dangerous
  anti-Mormon film that uses exaclty the same techniques and even accusations
  of the Nazi films that scapegoated Jews in the 1930s).

  "It seems to me one major indication that a person is a genuine convert to
  Christ and his redemptive love is his lack of paranoia and anxiety ("Perfect
  love casteth out fear," I John 4:18).  I have always been pleased that the
  LDS Church has not engaged in attacks on other faiths, though I find a
  disheartening increase in willingness of individual Mormons to engage in the
  same kinds of stereotyping and scapegoating---and even threats of coercive
  action---as the "religious right wing" has launched this year against the
  political left and American cultural and religious styles they don't like.
  It is a fearful irony that in so doing Mormons take common cause with the
  very people who have most slanderously attacked Mormons---people who would,
  if they had power, forcefully restrict Mormons' rights along with those of
  others they believe to be evil."

The above "sermon" was addressed to the LDS audience who usually subscribe
to This People's magazine, but would certainly apply to all of us who
rely on the mercies and grace of Jesus Christ to bring us back into His
arms.

Even though the LDS Church claims devine authority to exercise the principles
of the restored gospel---as in the days of Christ, the Church does not claim
perfection and infallibility in how those with authoritative status have or do
now lead the Church.  I, for one, do not wish to be labelled "Christian", if
those who profess themselves as Christians attack my beliefs because they are
intollerent (for example) of the way my religion may interpret Biblical
scriptures of the same source to have a different meaning and implication
than mainstream Christianity would give it.  Once again, being in the
majority does NOT in and of itself PROVE anything except that your collective
voice is louder.  That's really all the critics of the LDS Church have to stand
on in terms of the kind of Biblical interpretation used as proof to counter
the LDS Church' interpretation!  Using someone elses biased research of truths
and non-truths (whose to say what the mixture is?) as an authoritative tool to
disprove or discredit is not being fair to anyone, least of all themselves.
Let us simply agree to disagree, and share beliefs through adult discussion
and conversation, thereby uplifting everyone.


I had a similar problem - try changing the netmask to 0.0.0.0 or 255.255.254.0


Absolutely not true!
There are lots of them!


I could give much the same testimonial about my experience as a scout
back in the 1960s. The issue wasn't gays, but the principles were the
same. Thanks for a well put testimonial. Stan Krieger and his kind who
think this discussion doesn't belong here and his intolerance is the
only acceptable position in scouting should take notice. The BSA has
been hijacked by the religious right, but some of the core values have
survived in spite of the leadership and some scouts and former scouts
haven't given up. Seeing a testimonial like this reminds me that
scouting is still worth fighting for.

On a cautionary note, you must realize that if your experience with this
camp leader was in the BSA you may be putting him at risk by publicizing
it. Word could leak out to the BSA gestapo.


[...lostsa' crap deleted. trim your articles!...]

last i heard, "non-lethal" was a bit of a misnomer for these things.

jason


The proper term for what Mike expresses is Monophysitism.  This was a
heresy that was condemned in the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD.  It
grew up in reaction to Nestorianism, which held that the Son and Jesus
are two different people who happened to be united in the same body
temporarily.  Monophysitism is held by the Copts of Egypt and Ethipoia
and by the Jacobites of Syria and the Armenian Orthodox.  It believes
that Jesus Christ was God (which is correct), that he was man (which is
correct), that he was one person (which is correct), but that he had
only one nature and one will and oen energy (which is heretical, the
orthodox position is that he had two natures and two wills and two
energies, both divine and human, though the wills were in perfect
harmony).  That is what Mike is trying to get across, that while Jesus
came in human form, Mike says He did not have a human nature or a human
will.  In reality, he had both, though neither made him subject to
original sin.
It is interesting to note that the Monothelites were a reaction to this
conflict and attempted to solve the problem by admitting two natures but
not two wills or two energies.  It also was condemned, at a late council
in Constantinople I believe.

Andy Byler


Sorry for the mis-spelling, but I forgot how to spell it after
my series of exams and NO-on hand reference here.

	Is it still possible to get those cute WWII VW Jeep-wanna-be's?
A replica would be great I think.

							-TKH '93

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If I can convert a C=128 to a C128T, I can do anything... NOT!!


From the limited details released so far, It seems that the clipper chip
system must employ some sort of public key cryptography. Otherwise, the key
management problems inherent to symetric ciphers would make the system
unworkable. It probably has some sort of public key exchange that takes place
at the start of each call. Thats how they would identify the private key in
their data base?

This means that either the NSA has developed some non RSA public key
algorythm or the feds have decided to subsidize PKP & RSADSI. The former is
rather an exciting posibility since keeping the algorythm secret while making
chip implimentations widely avalibe will be exceptionally hard. If the feds
are forced to make it avalible in order to gain public acceptance than that
could break RSA's stranglehold on public key crypto in the U.S.

As for my impressions of the whole scheme It seems that instead of trying to
ban strong crypto, they are trying to co-opt it. Their contention that they
need to keep the algorythm secret to protect the security of the key
registration suggests possible inherent weakness to the algorythm. More likely
is that they dont want anyone constructing black market devices which dont
have the keys registered. Anyone else notice that in their Q&A session, they
talk about releasing the keys only to people with proper autiorization but
carefully dance around stating that the keys will simply have to be supeonaed.
They seem to be trying to keep open the posibility of obtaining keys without
court order even though tapping a phone line requires one. Also pick up on
their implicit threat of eithe accept this or we'll ban strong crypto outright?
I dont trust this plan at all and plan to oppose it in all (legal) ways
possible.


ku> From: kinau@mondrian.CSUFresno.EDU (Kin Hung Au) Date: 13 Apr 93
  ku> 07:22:05 GMT Organization: California State University, Fresno
  ku> Message-ID: <C5Ev4t.G0A@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Newsgroups:
  ku> comp.sys.mac.hardware
  ku>
  ku> In Hong Kong , you can buy a cheap PC 386 or 486 based computer.
  ku> However, it is very experience to buy a Macintosh. Last winter, I was
  ku> back to Hong Kong. I saw the price of Mac Classic in Hong kong is same
  ku> price to buy a LC in the U.S.
  ku>
  ku> I am not recommended to buy MAc in Hong Kong since Mac is not popular
  ku> in HK.
  ku>
  ku> Kin Hung Au

Hello Mr. Au,

I have to disagree regarding your assessment of Macintosh in Hong Kong. The Mac has a sizeable share of the typesetting market, as in the U.S. A local magazine, Next Magazine (similar to Newsweek here), uses the Mac extensively. I have seen Sir Speedy and other franchises in Hong Kong equipped with Mac-based systems. True, the discount is not as steep as here because customers in Hong Kong cannot buy from gray market, nor are Mac being sold thru mass merchandisers like Apple does here with the Performa lin

e. At this point the sale of Mac is handled by one exclusive distributor. On the other hand, you can always get a PC clone or in the earlier days, illegal clones of the Apple IIe.

Your perception of the Mac not being too popular in Hong Kong is simply because most hobbyists and users find it much cheaper to go to one of those basement stores that sell PC clones with probably illegal copies of BIOS than to pay for a Mac.

Similarly you cannot say Lotus 1-2-3 surely is not well accepted in Hong Kong because the sale is so low. May be it is because of all those places in Kowloon where illegal copies of Lotus 1-2-3 can be bought for $20 and $10 for a professional looking but illegal copies of the manuals.


Hello,

This is my first net letter, so forgive mistakes!

I have been plagued by problems (or lack of info) with
authorization in Open Windows 3.0 for a long while and
would like some help please!  I generally use strait
MIT X, and so don't use OW much, but when I share
X software with others - bad news.

PROBLEM:

My friend who logs into his SSII trys to run my
program that runs fine on my machine, however,
my friend gets "client not authorized to connect
to server" (or something close).  If OW is started
with the -noauth option all is well, but surely this
is not required in general!

Also, xhost + does not work, becoming root does not
work, etc...

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanx


Hell, the Orioles' Opening Day game could easily be the largest in history
if we had a stadium with 80,000 seats. But unfortunely the Yards (a
definitely excellent ballpark) only holds like 45,000 with 275 SRO spots.
Ticket sales for the entire year is moving fast. Bleacher seats are almost
gone for every game this year. It's a extremely likelyhood that the O's
could sell out every game this year (especially if we lead the division for
most of the year like '89).
	On another front, the sale of the Orioles to anyone is likely to be
forced upon Eli Jacobs who is major debt apparently. Maybe we can get an
owner willing to spend on a proven rightfielder free agent in the winter.
	Fernando has made the O's as the fifth starter. The O's pitching
staff looks pretty good. Sutcliffe, Mussina, McDonald, Rhodes, and Fernando.
	Baltimore is my pick for the victors in a very competitive AL East.
__________________________________________________________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Second to last day of the season - Gregg (The True Wild Thing) Olson
uncorks a wild pitch allowing the Blue Jays to tie. Blue Jays win in the
11th and ends the Baby Birds' miracle season of '89.


The higher memory limits apply to ISA cards only, as far as I know.  The VLB
and EISA version should have no problems.

Again, the memory aperture need only be disabled if you have more than 124M RAM
(EISA and VLB) or 12 M (ISA).  32M should not be a problem for you.

Nope.  I can use 640x480 at 72hz, 24-bit and 800x600 at 70hz, 24-bit, all
non-interlaced.

They aren't perfect, but are much improved.  I don't recall the last time which
I had to leave mach 32 mode (ATI GUP mode) and switch to 8514 or VGA mode due
to software incompatibility.

It's quite fast, but whether or not its the fastest is open to debate.

I like it.


I can only comment on the Kings, but the most obvious candidate for pleasant
surprise is Alex Zhitnik. He came highly touted as a defensive defenseman, but
he's clearly much more than that. Great skater and hard shot (though wish he
were more accurate). In fact, he pretty much allowed the Kings to trade away
that huge defensive liability Paul Coffey. Kelly Hrudey is only the biggest
disappointment if you thought he was any good to begin with. But, at best, he's
only a mediocre goaltender. A better choice would be Tomas Sandstrom, though
not through any fault of his own, but because some thugs in Toronto decided
to threaten his career in order to avoid conceding a goal. Other than that, the
award goes to Robert Lang, an uninspiring Czech. Robitaille could easily be
MVP, but I'd prefer to give it to Rob Blake who is quietly becoming one of the
league's premier defensemen, and if the Kings manage to hold onto him and the
rest of our young defense, it could one day mean that we'll let in fewer
goals than Hartford. Honorable mentions to Majestic Marty and Warren Rychel.
Jon


this must be a FAQ from the very first days of the 13"RGB!!!!


Some one asked me recently why they when they used XQueryBestCursor to see
if they could create of a given size it seemed to imply they could, but the
server did not create cursors of that size. Investigation showed that some X
servers will happily return any size up to the size of the root window, while
others return some fixed limit of more reasonable size. The interesting thing
to me is that the same server binary acts differently on different hardware -
a Sun4 with a cg2 will claim cursors up to root window size are OK, while a
Sun4 with a cg6 will stop at 32x32. So far I've also seen this behavior on
NCD and Phase-X X terminals and have been told it also occurs on HPs.
Actually, the NCD is even more liberal - sizes much larger then the root
winodw are gladly returned as OK. Is XQueryBestCursor semi-broken or is this
behavior correct? I'd really like to see a 2000x2000 cursor!


	Just wondering, do you mean the "Lectorium Rosicrucianum"?
Warning: There is no point in arguing who's "legit" and who's not. *WHICH*
Golden Dawn are you talking about?

	Just for the sake of argument, (reflecting NO affiliation)
I am going to say that the TRUE Rosicrucian Order is the Fraternitas
Rosae Crucis in Quakertown, Penn.,

	Any takers? :-)

Fraternally,


Could y'all PLEASE stop posting this stuff to tx.general.  tx.politics
is sufficient and is where this stuff belongs.  Thanks.

	Cathy


Hi, someone is selling his bmw R65 ( I think it's an '84 ) w/ 15k
miles for $2200. He says it's in great condition and perfect shape.
It's got the 2 hard saddle bags, too.

Is this a good deal? Seems like an awesome deal. Is it - assuming that
everything he says is true ?

Thanks,

Jae


Since the Quadra is the only Mac able to deal with 5MB/s and Hard drives START
at 160MB I have NO idea.
For the Mac I have the following {These are ALL external}
 20MB $299 {$15/MB}
 52MB $379 {$7.3/MB}
 80MB $449 {$5.63/MB}
120MB $569-$639 {$4.75-$5.33/MB
210MB $979-$1029{$4.67-$4.90/MB}
320MB $1499-$1549 {$4.68-$4.84/MB}
510MB $1999-$2119 ($3.92-$4.31/MB}
etc

So scsi-1/SCSI-2 for the Mac goes down in price/MB as hard drive size goes
up {and I assume the same for the PC world.}


Ever since the siege at Waco started the FBI spokesman has been
stressing how unstable and paranoid David Koresh was.  He stressed how
likely it was the the Branch Davidians would commit mass suicide.  He
was concerned with the safety of the children.

What did the FBI do to defuse the situation,  Did they try to reassure
Koresh?  DId the FBI offer medical assistance to the BD?  Did the FBI
offer them a supply of water when the BD pump stoped working?  Did the
permit Koresh to communicate with anyone outside the compound?

What the FBI did was harass the Branch Davidians as much as possible.
They kept powerful lights shining on the compound, shut off their
electrical power, put their pump out of action, assaulted their ears
with loud noise, cut off their communication with the outside and kept
limiting their permitter.  The stated goal was to put pressure on
David Koresh.

Was the FBI attempting to get Koresh to surrender or were they hoping
to get Koresh so mad that he and some of his followers would attack
the the tanks.

It appears that the tactics employed by the FBI did drive Koresh over
the edge.  The blame for the deaths should be shared by both the
federal experts whose tactics drove Koresh over the edge and the fools
at the ATF who planed the raid.

Stupidity and incompetence of the BATF and the FBI leadership have
resulted in the needless death of 90 innocent people.

If every thing had gone as planned 90 people would be alive today.
Instead the ATF screwed up and caused the death of 90+.  Incompetent
law enforcement can kill you!


[ edited ]

Now that's funny!  (remembering that good humor always dances
uncomfortably close to the truth)

I can't wait to see the inevitable flames.  :-)


I am seeking some alternate solutions on how to turn a Postscript Type 1 or
TrueType font outline into polygons that can be subsequently scan converted
by a 3D scanline renderer.

I have been studying the problem of font conversion for a few years but
have never had the need to implement such a system. Well, I now have the
opportunity to write some font rendering software so I would like to have
some of my questions answered before I jump into the deep end.

The main problem I face is how to use the even/odd or non-winding rules to
turn the outlines into a single outline polygon (my renderer can handle
complex polygons so there is no need to reduce the polygons to simple
polygons). For example, in the letter "O" there are two outlines:

	1) The outside outline which is clockwise (TrueType font)
	2) The inside outline which is counterclockwise.

One common solution used by a number of rendering packages is to simply
connect the inner outline to the outer outline at the point where the
two outlines are closest. This is equivalent to descibing a "polygon with
holes". The renderer will then make the appropriate hole since the interior
polygon edges are in the opposite direction to the outside edges.

I do not want to use this simplistic system since:

	1) It will not handle all outline fonts properly (it is not a simple
		matter to connect the outer outline to the inner outline for
		some fancy fonts).
	2) It does not properly handle the even/odd or non-winding rules.

From my research over the years the proper solution is to use a trapezoid
decomposition algorithm to scan convert the outlines into trapezoids (as
is done by the Postscript and TrueType font rasterizers). These trapezoidal
polygons can then be easily and properly rendered by the 3D scanline renderer.

My question is: are there any better solutions to turning the outlines into
polgyons other than the trapezoid decomposer? I am not fond of this solution
since it creates excess number of polygons.

Another question, for those in the know: what is the best algorithm to create
bevelled and/or offset curves for font outlines? I have a dozen papers on these
subjects but I can't tell which method is the best to implement.

Thanks for any pointers.

--> Rob Lansdale


Could someone email me a USNail address for the NRA? I'd like to write them
a letter encouraging them to see to it VERY EMPHATICALLY that the 2nd
amendment is restored to the form that the founding fathers intended.

People like Howard Metzenbaum seem very intent on diluting the 2nd amendment
to the point where it is no effort for the governmentski to do what they
did in Waco.

After all, from what I know of the Federalist papers, it is this kind of
tyranny the 2nd amendment was supposed to be designed to protect against.

Honestly! M-60 tanks against the civilian population! Attack helicopters!

We need the right to keep and bear anti-tank weapons. Actually, if they
intend to mass armour against the (weakly-armed, at that) civilian population,
we need the right to field tactical nukes. Government tyranny! Who would
have ever thought it would happen here!

I wonder who'se house they'll run tanks through next, because the gov.
SUSPECTS child abuse. Maybe yours! Maybe mine!
And what is an Illegal Weapon (which they have yet to show us), if the
2nd amendment is designed to do what I believe it is, and the gov. uses
tanks against you? Government self-serving? Naaaah. Not here.

Time was when the U.S. used armour/attack helicopters against small countries.
Now, we're down to using them against to what amounts to a busload and a
half of civilians.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did not stop them, because I was
not a Jew: Then they came for the catholics, but I did not stop them
because I was not a catholic! Then they came for the lutherans, but
there was now no one left to stop them!" Rev. Martin Niemoller.
(probably didn't get it verbatim, but you get the idea).

If the NRA reads this, then never mind about the address.
God save us!


Adam Benson
Mt. Pearl, NF
adamb@garfield.cs.mun.ca


 [...]

Maybe 300 such pairs suffice to reconstruct S1 and S2? By such a back-
door (in the encryption algorithm perhaps) it would be possible (for
the manufacturer) to get the keys of all chips that were programmed in
one session. This would not, btw, enable anybody else to retrieve the
keys in the same way because they'll never get a bunch of 300 (N,U)
pairs with identical S1 and S2. (Note that these have to be constant
for the whole batch by the very nature of the procedure, i.e., they
have to be typed in manually by the `random number supplying agents'!)

And I was wondering why they'll always do 300 chips in one session ...
Since the procedure described by Ms Denning imposes high costs on the
production of every chip (at least three persons for one hour each,
plus the cost of a laptop finally blown to pieces in a spectacular,
Hollywood-like bonfire; add travelling expenses, drinks and lighting,
divide the sum by 300) there won't be a larger demand -- not from the
private sector anyway.

And let me mention one other thought that certainly has occurred to all
the notoriously paranoid people in this group before: Who is going to
verify that _no_ interested party will perform tempest attacks on the
vault??

Where there's so much smoke and mirrors -- there can't be a nice, honest
fire but something really worth hiding ...


: You know, it just occurred to me today that this whole Christian thing
: can be blamed solely on Mary.
:
: So, she's married to Joseph.  She gets knocked up.  What do you think
: ol' Joe will do if he finds she's been getting around?  So Mary comes up
: with this ridiculous story about God making her pregnant.
:

  Nice attempt Chris . . . verrry close.

  You missed the conspiracy by 1 step. Joseph knew who knocked her up.
He couldn't let it be known that somebody ELSE got ol' Mary prego. That
wouldn't do well for his popularity in the local circles. So what
happened is that she was feeling guilty, he was feeling embarrassed, and
THEY decided to improve both of their images on what could have otherwise
been the downfall for both. Clever indeed. Come to think of it . . . I
have gained a new respect for the couple. Maybe Joseph and Mary should
receive all of the praise being paid to jesus.


I think you tried to send me a message re: the animation query
I posted to comp.windows.x. I've appended what I received below.
If you can remember what you typed, I'd appreciate another attempt!

Derek

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Hi, I'm new to this group so please bear with me!

Two years ago I wrote a Sunview application for fast animation
of raster files. With Sunview becoming rapidly obselete, I've
finally decided to rewrite everything from scratch in XView.
I put together a quick test, and I've found that XPutImage()
is considerably slower (factor of 2 on average?) than the
Sunview command pw_rop() which moves image data from memory
pixrects to a canvas. This was on a Sparc IPX. It seems that:
(1) the X protocol communication is slowing things down; or
(2) XPutImage is inefficient...or both! My question is, what
is the fastest way in X11R5 to dump 8 plane image data to
a window? Can I take advantage of the fact that the client is
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XPutImage() (in which case I might as well give up now...)?

All help appreciated...thanks!

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