Hi, I am using a dtk 386-20Mhz 13Meg memory to run a variety of
programs, and have had problems off and on with lock up,
but now I am trying to run an application that wants a lot of memory
over a period of time (Playmation 24 bit rendered) and it is
locking up Everytime.  I have an ATI ultra + w/2Meg which I have
tried in each of the video modes, I have excluded the region of
video memory from A000-C800 segments from the use of emm386,
have tried adjusting the swap partion from large to nonexistant (to
prevent swapping) and I have REM'd ALL TSR's and utilities in config.syus
and autoexec, and even tried using the default program manager, disabling
my HP dashboard.  even with a minimal system, no swap, no smartdrv,
no TSR's, no windows utilities and exclusion of video regions it still
locks up completely (no mouse control, no response to anything except
3finger salute, and even that does not stop by the standard windows
screen, but simply does a full reset immediately).  Just about out
of ideas, anyone out there have any????  Thanks
tom branham
branham@binah.cc.brandeis.edu


Yes, this is also my understanding of the majority of Islamic laws.
However, I believe there are also certain legal rulings which, in all
five schools of law (4 sunni and 1 jaffari), can be levelled against
muslim or non-muslims, both within and outside dar-al-islam. I do
not know if apostasy (when accompanied by active, persistent, and
open hostility to Islam) falls into this category of the law. I do know
that
historically, apostasy has very rarely been punished at all, let alone
by the death penalty.

My understanding is that Khomeini's ruling was not based on the
law of apostasy (alone). It was well known that Rushdie was an apostate
long before he wrote the offending novel and certainly there is no
precedent in the Qur'an, hadith, or in Islamic history for indiscriminantly
levelling death penalties for apostasy.

I believe the charge levelled against Rushdie was that of "fasad". This
ruling applies both within and outside the domain of an
Islamic state and it can be carried out by individuals. The reward was
not offered by Khomeini but by individuals within Iran.

I would concur that the thrust of the fatwa (from what I remember) was
levelled at the author and all those who assisted in the publication
of the book. However, the charge of "fasad" can encompass a
number of lesser charges. I remember that when diplomatic relations
broke off between Britain and Iran over the fatwa - Iran stressed that
the condemnation of the author, and the removal of the book from
circulation were two preliminary conditions for resolving the
"crisis". But you are correct to point out that banning the book was not
the main thrust behind the fatwa. Islamic charges such as fasad are
levelled at people, not books.

The Rushdie situation was followed in Iran for several months before the
issuance of the fatwa. Rushdie went on a media blitz,
presenting himself as a lone knight guarding the sacred values of
secular democracy and mocking the foolish concerns of people
crazy enough to actually hold their religious beliefs as sacred.
Fanning the flames and milking the controversy to boost
his image and push the book, he was everywhere in the media. Then
Muslim demonstrators in several countries were killed while
protesting against the book. Rushdie appeared momentarily
concerned, then climbed back on his media horse to once again
attack the Muslims and defend his sacred rights. It was at this
point that the fatwa on "fasad" was issued.

The fatwa was levelled at the person of Rushdie - any actions of
Rushdie that feed the situation contribute to the legitimization of
the ruling. The book remains in circulation not by some independant
will of its own but by the will of the author and the publishers. The fatwa
against the person of Rushdie encompasses his actions as well. The
crime was certainly a crime in progress (at many levels) and was being
played out (and played up) in the the full view of the media.


No answer.

I do not feel like the cameras were out of range.  Cameras watched the first
confrontation.  Cameras watched the banners.  Cmaeras watched the final
confrontation with tanks.  Cameras watched the fire.  When weren't cameras
able to watch?  When would cameras be unable to watch people coming out with
their hands up?

Well, that is what BATF should have done.  Either, Koresh would have gone
peaceably as he has done in the past, or perhaps it was already too close
to the apocalypse in his own mind.  It is hard to predict the actions of
a leader who would not release the children when most rational people would.

Now will you answer my question up top?


Australian Pattern Recognition Society

                         2nd CALL FOR PAPERS

                               DICTA-93

                          2nd Conference on -

         DIGITAL IMAGING COMPUTING: TECHNIQUES AND APPLICATIONS

Location: Macquarie Theatre
          Macquarie University
          Sydney

Date: 8-10 December 1993.

   DICTA-93 is the second biennial national conference of the
Australian Pattern Recognition Society.

   This event will provide an opportunity for any persons with an
interest in computer vision, digital image processing/analysis and other
aspects of pattern recognition to become informed about contemporary
developments in the area, to exchange ideas, to establish contacts and
to share details of their own work with others.

        The Following invited speakers will provide specialised
presentations:

Prof Gabor T. Herman, University of Pennsylvania on Medical Imaging.

Prof. R.M. Hodgson, Massey University New Zealand on Computer Vision.

Prof. Dominique Juelin, Centre de Morphologie Mathematique, Paris on
Mathematical Morphology.

Prof. John Richards, Aust. Defence Force Academy, Canberra on Remote
Sensing.

Dr. Phillip K. Robertson, CSIRO Division of Information Technology,
Canberra on Interactive Visualisation.

   The conference will concentrate on (but is not limited to) the
following areas of image processing:-

                * Computer Vision and Object Recognition
                * Motion Analysis
                * Morphology
                * Medical Imaging
                * Fuzzy logic and Neural Networks
                * Image Coding
                * Machine Vision and Robotics
                * Enhancement and Restoration
                * Enhancement and Restoration
                * Visualisation
                * Industrial Applications
                * Software and Hardware Tools

   Papers are sought for presentation at the conference and publication
in the conference proceedings. Submission for peer review should consist
of an extended abstract of 750-1000 words of doubled spaced text, summarizing the
technical aspects of the paper and any results that will be quoted.
Final papers should be limited to no more than 8 pages of text and
illustrations in camera-ready form.

   Four (4) copies of the abstract should be sent to:

                               DICTA-93
                          C/- Tony Adriaansen
                  CSIRO - Division of Wool Technology
                                PO Box 7
                             Ryde NSW 2112
                               Australia

                            IMPORTANT DATES

                Abstract due            - 25th June 1993
                Acceptance notified     - 27th August 1993
                Final paper due         - 15th October 1993

SOCIAL PROGRAM:

The conference dinner will be held on the Thursday 9th of December 1993.
Other social activities are being arranged.

Situated on a beautiful harbour, Sydney has many and varied places of
interest. The Opera House and Harbour Bridge are just two of the well
known landmarks. Harbour cruises, city tours to the Blue Mountains run
daily. We can provide further information on request.

ACCOMMODATION:

Accommodation within 15 min walking distance is available, ranging from
college style to 5 star Hotel facilities. Information will be supplied
upon request.

CONFERENCE FEES:

                        before 30th Sep.        After 30th Sep.
APRS Members              A$220                   A$250
APRS Student Members      A$120                   A$150
Others                    A$250                   A$280

Conference Dinner         A$35
on Dec 9th 1993

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                ADVANCED REGISTRATION

Name:
Organisation:
Address

Phone:
Fax:
email:

                - I am a current Member of APRS.

                - I am not a current member of APRS.

                - Please send me information on accommodation.

I enclose a cheque for

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Please send the above form to

DICTA-93
C/- Tony Adriaansen
CSIRO - Division of Wool Technology
PO Box 7
Ryde NSW 2112
Australia

The cheques should be made payable to DICTA-93.

For further information contact:
* Tony Adriaansen (02) 809 9495
* Athula Ginigie  (02) 330 2393
* email: dicta93@ee.uts.edu.au


: Does anyone out there have any info on the up and coming fall comdex '93? I was
: asked by one of my peers to get any info that might be available.  Or, could
: anyone point me in the right direction?  Any help would be appreciated.

	It's in Las Vegas (as always) between November 16th and 20th.

	For more information contact: The Interface Group
				      300 First Avenue
				      Needham, MA  02194-2722

	Sorry, no phone number available. Consult directory service
	in Massachusetts for the number (617, 508 or 413).

	-- Willy


assuming yours is a non turbo MR2, the gruffness is characteristic of
a large inline 4 that doesn't have balance shafts.  i guess toyota
didn't care about "little" details like that when they can brag about
the mid engine configuration and the flashy styling.

myself, i automatically cross out any car from consideration (or
recommendation) which has an inline 4 larger than 2 liters and no
balance shafts..  it is a good rule of thumb to keep in mind if you
ever want a halfway decent engine.

if the noise really bugs you, there is nothing else that you can do
except to sell it and get a V6.


However, also be aware that Implementor's notes are basicly
recommendations, they are *NOT* part of the spec.  As others have
noted, many vendors (including SGI) violate this.  Indeed, the main
point is to reduce impedance changes, and therefore reflections, and
therefore 'noise' on the bus.


I think you may be chasing the wrong problem.  I don't think it is the
function overloading at all-- I do that sort of thing all of the time
in BC++ without a hitch.  The big problems I have encountered in
porting MFC to BC++ is that fact that MFC _depends_ on a couple of
invalid C++ assumptions.

I have never gotten the _entire_ ctrltest app to run under BC++, but
the reason is that MS makes some bad assumptions about the order in
which static/global objects are initialized (i.e. some objects are
getting accessed before they are initialized).  The problem is in the
owner-draw menu code somewhere-- if you comment out that section, all
other pieces of ctrltest work fine.

Two other major gotchas I have found using MFC under BC++:

- The CFile::OpenFlags enum uses hard-coded numbers for the open mode,
  rather than the manifest constants defined in fcntrl.h (which differ
  between MSC and BC).

- All of the MFC collection classes depend on another bad C++
  assumption-- that a reference to a base object can used be in place
  of a reference to a derived object (true for pointers, NOT for
  references).

I am sure there are other problems along the same lines, but I have
not encountered them (yet).  I have not seen MFC 2.0 yet, but I hope
that some of these will be addressed.  If they are not, all of MS's
hype about portability to other vendor's compilers will be just that.


Hi Noel,

I've made some attempts to write a converter that reads Adobe Type 1 fonts,
triangulates them, bevelizes them and extrudes them to result in a generic
3d object which could be used with PoV f.i.

The problem I'm currently stuck on is that theres no algorithm which
triangulates any arbitrary polygonal shape. Delaunay seems to be limited
to convex hulls. Constrained delaunay may be okay, but I have no code
example of how to do it.

Another way to do the bartman may be

- TGA2POV
- A selfmade variation of this, using heightfields.

  Create a b/w picture (BIG) of the text you need, f.i. using a PostScript
  previewer. Then, use this as a heightfield. If it is white on black,
  the heightfield is exactly the images white parts (it's still open
  on the backside). To close it, mirror it and compound it with the original.

Example:

object {
   union {
      height_field { gif "abp2.gif" }
      height_field { gif "abp2.gif" scale <1 -1 1>}
   }
   texture {
      Glass
   }
   translate <-0.5 0 -0.5>      //center
   rotate <-90 0 0>             // rotate upwards
   scale  <10 5 100>            // scale bigger and thicker
   translate <0 2 0>            // final placement
}

abp2.gif is a GIF of arbitrary size containing "ABP" black on white in
Times-Roman 256 points.


                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Soderstrom plays with Philly, but he doesn't have a moulded mask.
He's got the helmet and cage variety, in white.  Or at least that's
what he wore thirteen hours ago.


I would like to experiment with the INTEL 8051 family.  Does anyone out
there know of any good FTP sites that might have compiliers, assemblers,
etc.?


Does anyone know what processor the Atari 2600 used? What I'm looking for is th
e pin-outs for the Atari 2600.... the schematics for it it... does anyone have
any idea where I could find this or any related information? This is very impor
tant. Also, are the ROM chips that were used fo rthe 2600 games still available
, or were they propreitary? Please email me with any responces, as this is very
 important.. Thanks a million...

BTW- Anyone who works/has worked for Atari, I could really use your help with i
nfo on the old 2600, please email me if you are willing to help me.... thatnks
alot!!


Is this a figment of your imagination? Here is another one:

 Source: "Mitteilungsblatt, Berlin, December 1939, Nr. 2 and 5-6"

 Yet another historical fact: a fact that for years has been deliberately
 forgotten, concealed, and wiped from memory - the fact of Armenian-Nazi
 collaboration.

 A magazine called Mitteilungsblatt der Deutsch-Armenischen Gesselschaft
 is the clearest and most definite proof of this collaboration. The
 magazine was first published in Berlin in 1938 during Nazi rule of Germany
 and continued publication until the end of 1944. Even the name of the
 magazine, which implies a declaration of Armenian-Nazi cooperation,
 is attention-getting.

 This magazine, every issue of which proves the collaboration, is historically
 important as documentary evidence. It is a heap of writing that should be
 an admonition to world opinion and to all mankind.

 In Nazi Germany, Armenians were considered to be an Aryan race and certain
 political, economic, and social rights were thus granted to them. They
 occupied positions in public service and were partners in Nazi practices.
 The whole world of course knows what awaited those who were not considered
 "Aryan" and what befell them.

Serdar Argic


Not hard, you can do the refreshing and access cycles by software, but
this hogs most of the available CPU cycles on a low-end controller.
I've seen some application note from Philips that used one of their
8051 derivatives as a printer buffer, with up to 1MB of dynamic ram
that was accessed and refreshed with software bit-banging.

Another alternative would be to use one of those nice DRAM controller
chips that "create static RAM appearance" and all that, but they may
be too expensive to make it worthwhile.


As the subjects says, Windows 3.1 keeps crashing (givinh me GPF) on me of
late.  It was never a very stable package, but now it seems to crash every
day.  The worst part about it is that it does not crash consistently: ie I
can't reproduce crashes, and they are not always GPF's in the same
application. Sometimes I can recover by simply closing the application
that caused an error, but other times, windows acts very strange, and I
need to re-boot.

Some background:  I have a Leading Edge 486sx25 with Phoenix BIOS.  When I
first got it it had 4Mg of memory.  It ran windows fine (not too many
GPF's).  Then, a couple of weekends ago, I installed Lotus 123 for windows
(with ATM), a game card and an additional 4  1Mg SIMMS.  The Leading edge
machine is kind of strange, in that it has the IDE controler built into
the motherboard, the CPU is actually on a sparate board that plugs into
the motherboard and the SIMMS it uses are Macintosh SIMMS! Apparently I
was told that the Leading Edge had the parity bit built into the mother
board.  The original 4Mg 80ns SIMMS where of the 2 chip variety from
SAMSUNG, and the ones I installed are 8 chip SIMMS. They are recognized
fine by the BIOS RAM check. The game card is a generic $20 gamecard.

The reason why I mention the hardware like this is that sometimes
rebooting the machine using the reset button or ctl-alt-del still leaves
the machine kind of flaky, but turning it on and off doesn't.

I haven't tried taking out the RAM or the game card, because as I said
these GPF are not reproducible at will.  I have gone through and entire
day using the computer with no problems and then I might get 5 or so GPF's
in the sppace of 20 minutes?

What can I do.  This situation is most annoying... Are there any good
diagnostic tools for hardware? Do you think that this might be a software
problem (ie EMM386 etc.)? If it helps, i have manage to get GPF's on After
Dark, quicken, Paint shop pro. A lot of them have been in user.exe or
gdi.exe.

Any help is truly appreciated.....

-Eric


A note to users of Plexi-Fairings:

If the light hits some of these just right, they become a giant magnifing
glass and will melt a hole in your guage pod!

 ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----


On the back might be tricky, but here in Boulder, there is a guy
that can always be seen with his Golden Retriever in the sidecar.
Of course, the dog is always wearing WWII style goggles (no joke)


Here is a press release from the Reserve Officers Association.

 Reserve Officers Say Demographics Ignored in Nominations to
Close Naval, Marine Reserve Centers
 To: National Desk, Defense Writer
 Contact: Herbert M. Hart of the Reserve Officers Association of
          the United States, 202-479-2258

   WASHINGTON, April 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Reserve Officers
Association of the United States has alerted the Defense Base
Realignment and Closure Commission that the services failed to give
sufficient weight to demographics in recommendations made to close
56 Naval and Marine Corps Reserve centers.
   In letters to the closure commission and to all 86 members of
Congress with affected locations in their constituencies, including
Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services
Committee, ROA charged that the developers of the Navy-Marine list
ignored demographics of the civilian population, particularly prior
service personnel.
   ROA's executive director, Maj. Gen. Evan L. Hultman, AUS (Ret.),
suggested "concern that the only plausible alternative is that they
are intentionally attempting to foreclose the Naval Reserve
components from maintaining even today's relatively low level of
participation in their parent service's Total Force of the future."
   He asked the commission "to remove from consideration all
locations without sufficient and convincing demographic data to
warrant approval of the requested action."
   "Only a few of the 56 Naval and Marine Corps Reserve
installations on this list are large enough to have a significant
impact on the community, if closed," wrote Hultman.  "The major
issue is the cumulative impact of moving or closing such a large
percentage of the existing locations."
   Hultman reminded the commission, "The fact that the vast
majority of the Reserve installations on this list do not come
close to meeting the minimal requirements for consideration in this
process certainly supports the thesis" that these actions are
simply an attempt to foreclose a substantial role for the Navy and
Marine Corps Reserve.
   ROA also noted "that at the end of the 1960s, when the number of
Naval Reservists was approximately the same as today, there were 480
Naval Reserve facilities.  If the Navy recommendations are
approved, there will be less than 200 Naval Reserve facilities."
   Facilities on the list include seven Naval Air Stations ranging
from South Weymouth, Mass., to Alameda, Calif., 28 Naval
Reserve Centers in Macon, Ga., and Parkersburg, W.Va., to
Missoula and Great Falls. Mont.  Naval/Marine Corps Reserve
Centers include four in San Francisco, Fort Wayne, Ind.,
Billings, Mont., and Abilene, Texas.
   A major Marine Reserve Center on the list is that at El
Toro, Calif., plus six others.
 -30-


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In plain Motify using a dialog 'in-line' like this simply isn't done. You need
to set callbacks from the buttons/widgets in your dialog and let the callback routines
do the work. In the callbacks you can then carry on the flow of logic.

XView from Sun actually supports this very neatly with a 'Notify' box, which can
return a status in-line, it does actualy ease coding but goes against the event
driven style of an application.

Summary: Redesign required.


: Are you saying that their was a physical Adam and Eve, and that all
: humans are direct decendents of only these two human beings.?  Then who
: were Cain and Able's wives?  Couldn't be their sisters, because A&E
: didn't have daughters.  Were they non-humans?

Genesis 5:4

and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years, and
he begat sons and daughters:


: Currently, I use a shareware program called Graphics Workshop.
: What kinds of things will Hijaak do that these shareware programs
: will not do?

I also use Graphic Workshop and the only differences that I know of are that
Hijaak has screen capture capabilities and acn convert to/from a couple of
more file formats (don't know specifically which one).  In the April 13
issue of PC Magazine they test the twelve best selling image capture/convert
utilities, including Hijaak.


1.  Software publishing SuperBase 4 windows v.1.3           --->$80

2.  OCR System ReadRight v.3.1 for Windows                  --->$65

3.  OCR System ReadRight  v.2.01 for DOS                    --->$65

4.  Unregistered Zortech 32 bit C++ Compiler v.3.1          --->$ 250
     with Multiscope windows Debugger,
     WhiteWater Resource Toolkit, Library Source Code

5.  Glockenspiel/ImageSoft Commonview 2 Windows
     Applications Framework for Borland C++                 --->$70

6.  Spontaneous Assembly Library With Source Code           --->$50

7.  Microsoft Macro Assembly 6.0                            --->$50

8.  Microsoft Windows v.3.1 SDK Documentation               --->$125

9.  Microsoft FoxPro V.2.0                                  --->$75

10.  WordPerfect 5.0 Developer's Toolkit                    --->$20

11.  Kedwell Software DataBoss v.3.5 C Code Generator       --->$100

12.  Kedwell InstallBoss v.2.0 Installation Generator       --->$35

13.  Liant Software C++/Views v.2.1
       Windows Application Framework with Source Code       --->$195

14.  IBM OS/2 2.0 & Developer's Toolkit                     --->$95

15.  CBTree DOS/Windows Library with Source Code            --->$120

16.  Symantec TimeLine for Windows                          --->$90

17.  TimeSlip TimeSheet Professional for Windows            --->$30


Or, _documentation_ for the program ;-).  A lot of shareware out there is
very similar in the approach - send in your money, and you get
documentation, and a free upgrade to the latest version.  Perhaps even
support of some small degree.  Whatever you want to offer that is "better"
than the circulating version.

Figure about 50%, as I have seen.

It doesn't really hurt legit users.  Shareware is still much cheaper than
the alternatives.

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/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford) / 11:06 am  Apr  1, 1993 /

  It depreciates much faster, too.

====================================================
John Stafford   Minnesota State University @ Winona
                    All standard disclaimers apply.
----------
The '84 GL1200A hit the traps at 13.34 according to Cycle magazine. Yeah,
they depreciate faster than Harleys for the first couple of years then
they bottom out. Got my '86 GL1200I w/ 2275 miles on the odometer for
just under $5K in May of 1990 and would ask for $4500 now with almost
16K miles onnit....that's about 50% of what a new GL1500I would cost.

Think the '86 GL1200I originally sold for $6500 brand new, not sure.
If that's the case then it depreciated 30.77% over 7 years or a mere
$2000. Big Fat Hairy Deal! Based on what I know, Harleys tend to
depreciate your monies far more than the initial depreciation of
the bike itself when it comes to parts and service. All this about
Harleys holding their value better doesn't always wash away the
knocks on them...such as being much slower. ;-)

According to Peter Egan in the just released Cycle World his FLHS is a
real dog when he pillions his 120lb wife. All that money for a dog that
doesn't defecate much. =:-]
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350 W Trimble Rd, San Jose, CA 95131 (gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com) DoD#649


Tests suck! Post a real message!
:^)


   Anas Omran has claimed that, "the Israelis used to arrest, and
sometime to kill some of these neutral reporters."  The assertion
by Anas Omran is, of course, a total fabrication.  If there is an
once of truth iin it, I'm sure Anas Omran can document such a sad
and despicable event.  Otherwise we may assume that it is another
piece of anti-Israel bullshit posted by someone whose family does
not know how to teach their children to tell the truth.  If Omran
would care to retract this 'error' I would be glad to retract the
accusation that he is a liar.  If he can document such a claim, I
would again be glad to apologize for calling him a liar.  Failing
to do either of these would certainly show what a liar he is.


<lots more deleted>

I think the hangup with digital scopes is that you have to know so much
more about them and how they work on a scope-by-scope basis, and
some of the functions are typically presented, in my opinion,
in a counter-intuitive fashion (HP has made some strides in their
54600 series, IMO). Automatic setups are fine for simple,
repetitive waveforms, but can give you some crazy results on more
complex events where you need to understand how the scope is
actually measuring/processing the event. For example, is the scope
in "equivalent time" or in "real time" sampling mode (equivalent time
being a mode where samples are built-up slowly by adding a delay to
the trigger event each sweep)? What was the scope's actual sampling
rate at the time? How is the data being massaged after capture but
before display, etc. One common misconception is the speed of the scope.

Is the HP scope you're using really a 100 MHz scope? Or is it a 20 MHz
sample rate scope (~5 MHz single shot significance) whose front
end including S/H can support 100 MHz waveforms (important for
equivalent time sampling)? The 100 MHz input in this case really
only helps you when your waveform is repetitive, or on a single
sample, when you get lucky and hit a transient event during a sample time.

So, there are a lot more variables in understanding how to get
useful information from a digital scope. I prefer an analog scope for
general use and the digital for events where I need storage for
later analysis or comparison, when the event is within the capability
of the scope. Now, for the price of true 100 MHz digital scopes to
fall...

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(posted for a friend)
hello there,
        I would like to know if any one had any experience with having
on-board decoupling capacitors (inside a cmos chip) for the power
lines. Say I have a lot of space left im my pad limited design.
any data on the effect of oxide breakdown? any info or pointers
are appreciated.


Umm, when I was doing sound reinforcement for a living, I used to get direct boxes (which convert
unbalanced 1/4" jacks to balanced XLRs) for about $25 each, or a little more for higher
quality. You'll need two for a stereo signal, of course, and a little adapter thingy from
Radio Sh#$&^t to convert from RCA to 1/4". Total cost should be around $50. You can also buy
transformers for quite a bit less and wire them yourself. Total cost there should be under $30.
You can get all this stuff from any pro music shop that sells sound reinforcement gear.
The benefit? NO noise that you can hear will be generated in the cables going to the component
with the balanced inputs, even when you run them in bad places, like next to power lines.


i am sorry, but this genoa card does nothing that the ATI ultra plus 2mb
can't do, PLUS the ATI costs 330$US street price ....


*****************************
   * WARRIORS TICKETS FOR SALE *
   *****************************

I have 2 tickets that I can't use (Last pair this year).

Section 109, Row P, Seats 8 & 9

DAY	DATE	OPPONENT	TIME
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Price: $45.00 = MY COST

Call or email if you are interested in these tickets.


Such as?  Not being able to get married isn't a roadblock to a permanent
relationship.  Lack of a marriage certificate doesn't force a couple
to break up.  This is an excuse used by homosexuals because the
alternative is to ask why they are so much more promiscuous than
straights.


It would depend on the requirements of the poster's data, for some
purposes 1/256 resolution (with or without calibration curve).

Otherwise the other possibilities would be:

1) get a digital voltameter with serial output & connect to serial
port on mac, collect data with some communications program.

2) Buy an A/D chip from Analog devices, Burr-Brown, etc, connect to
a parallel to serial converter, use serial port for acquisition
(nah. too much soldering and trouble shooting :-)

3) Get a board from National Instruments, Data Translation, Omega,
etal.  The finest solution, but possibly the most costly.

To the original poster:  if the signal is too large, why not
use a voltage divider? Two resistors, cost very cheap...
--


I have a DEC NT 486DX33 that has an Adaptec SCSI controller, hard disk
and cd-rom drive. When I add a 3COMM Ethernet card (3C503) and reboot
the system I receive an error message that a boot device cannot be
found. Pull the 3COMM card and reboot, everything is fine. I've moved
the controller and 3COMM card to various slots, different positions
(slot before the controller, slot after the controller) with the
same result. DEC hasn't responded to the problem yet. Any help would
be appreciated.


Well I don't see any smileys here.  I am trying to figure out if the poster
is a dog or a wordprocessor.  Couldn't be neither.  Both are smarter than
this.

"I might not be great in Math"

--


[deleted]

Keep in mind this was in Massachussetts.  Today was Patriots Day, a state
holiday.  I think it might be a floating holiday, but given that the
Marathon also happens the same day, most people don't go in.

--

#include <std_disclaimer.h>


Issued by Khomeini it shouldn't be relevant to anyone. But issued
by an honest and learned scholar of Islam it would be relevant to
any muslim as it would be contrary to Islamic law which all muslims
are required to respect.

Anyone sufficiently well versed in Islamic law and capable of reasoning,
if you are talking about a weak sense of "excuse." It depends on what
sense of "excuse" you have in mind.

Only someone who thinks my opinion is important, obviously.
Obviously you don't care, nor do I care that you don't care.


It also gave me lots of problems with joint and muscle pain.  Seemed to
trigger arthritis-like problems.

Sue


Where?  I honestly didn't see any...

I disagree, if for no other reason than that there are already other
standards in place.  Besides, even if they restrict encryption on the NREN,
who cares?  Most of the Internet is commercial anyway.  The NREN is only for
geovernment and university research (read the proposals--it's a "data
superhighway" for Cray users, not anything having to do with the Internet).


Hi. I'm trying to figure out how to make a window manager
place the window where the create window command tells it,
regardless of what it may think is right. (my application has
reason to know better)

	I don't want to set the override-redirect because I do
want all the embellishments that the window manager gives, I just
want the wm to accept my choice of location.

	I've tried twm, tvtwm and mwm and they are all
uncooperative.


Where does the shadow come from?  There's nothing close enough to block
sunlight from hitting them.  I wouldn't expect there to be anything block
our view of them either.  What am I missing?


First, I would like to thank all who sent me their opinions on the matter
at hand.  All advice was taken to heart, if not directly used.  My friend
found out about the matter quite accidently.  After reading some of my
mail, I quit from the mail reader & went about my business.  I must have
trashed my mail improperly, because he got on the same terminal the next
day & saw my old messages.  He thought they were responses to a post he
placed in alt.atheism earlier that week, so he read some of them before
realizing that they were for me.  I got a message from him the next day; he
apologized for reading my mail & said that he did not want to appear to be
a snoop.  He said that he would be willing to talk to me about his views &
didn't mind doing so, especially with a friend.  So we did.  I neither
changed his mind nor did he change mine, as that was not the point.  Now he
knows where I'm coming from & now I know where he's coming from.  And all
that I can do is pray for him, as I've always done.

I believe the reason that he & I "click" instead of "bash" heads is because
I see Christianity as a tool for revolution, & not a tool for maintaining
the status quo.  To be quite blunt, I have more of a reason to reject God
than he does just by the fact that I am an African-American female.
Christianity & religion have been used as tools to separate my people from
the true knowledge of our history & the wealth of our contributions to the
world society.  The "kitchen of heaven" was all we had to look forward to
during the slave days, & this mentality & second-class status still exists
today.  I, too, have rejected
an aspect of Christianity----that of the estabished church.  Too much
hypocricy exists behind the walls of "God's house" beginning with the
images of a white Jesus to that of the members:  praise God on Sunday &
raise hell beginning Monday.  God-willing, I will find a church home where
I can feel comfortable & at-home, but I don't see it happening anytime
soon.


mjs>No No No No!! All I am saying is that you don't even need to tell people
mjs>the technique of countersteering, cos they will do it intuitively the first
mjs>time they try to go round a corner.

karr>Are you sure?  Remember that you *can* get around corners without
karr>countersteering.  In fact, my Experienced Rider Course instructors
karr>claimed that they could get on behind a new rider and make the bike
karr>turn to whichever side they wanted just by shifting their weight
karr>around, even when the operator was trying to turn in the opposite
karr>direction.  (I admit I've never actually seen this.)

I've experienced this, back when I was young(er) and (more) foolish...

My first bike used to track extremely true.  Going down the highway,
I would set the throttle tension screw up enough to hold the gas
steady, slide back on the seat and lean against the backrest, riding
without any hands.  If I needed to turn, I'd shift my weight into the
turn, and lo and behold, the bike would turn, sans touching the bars!
Granted, it wouldn't turn very fast, but it proves that you can turn
a bike without countersteering, at least not in terms of the input
to the bar normally associated with countersteering.

As I've said, I know many people who think all you do is lean, and any
input they're giving to the bar is totally unconscious.  Whereas that
may be sufficient to get you down the road under normal circumstances,
possibly for years at a stretch, I can't think of anybody who'd argue
that this is preferable to properly knowing how to manipulate the bar
in a turn, regardless of what you want to call it.

Except maybe for Mr. Sixsmith...  ;^)

Mr. Bill


    Sure. I can give is a shot...

    You need to get the 30-pin simms.

    If you mean in a "newer, more powerful" Mac system then the answer
is no. Apple has stated that all new Macs will use the 72-pin SIMMs and
no longer use the 30-pin SIMMs.


At the end of a recent (Mon 19 Apr 1993) post, Alastair Thomson
offers the following "paraphrase" of John 3:16:

   "God loved the world so much, that he gave us His Son,
   to die in our place, so that we may have eternal life."

The "to die in our place" bothers me, since it inserts into the
verse a doctrine not found in the original. Moreover, I suspect that
the poster intends to affirm, not merely substitution, but forensic
(or penal) substitution.  I maintain that the Scriptures in speaking
of the Atonement teach a doctrine of Substitution, but not one of
Forensic Substitution.

Those interested in pursuing the matter are invited to send for my
essays on Genesis, either 4 thru 7 (on this question) or 1 through 7
(with lead-in).  The n'th essay can be obtained by sending to
LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to LISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU the
message
   GET GEN0n RUFF

 Yours,
 James Kiefer


stuff deleted ...

Your logic is falty.  If Christianity is a DRUG, and once we die we
die, then why would you be reluctant to embrase this drug so that
while you are alive you enjoy yourself.

I also question your overall motives for posting this article.  Why
would you waste your presious fews seconds on this earth posting your
opinon to a group that will generally reject it.

If you die, never having acepting Christ as your savior, I hope you
have a fantastic life that it is all you evver dreamed because it is
al of heaven you will ever know.


Yes.

I don't know where Douglas Adams took it from, but I'm pretty sure he's
the one who launched it (in the Guide). Since then it's been showing up
all over the place.


Can somebody reconcile the apparent contradiction between [1] and [2]?


:|> >wrong about the  whole guns-for-protection mindset, it ignores the
:|>
:|> Why?  If you're not a threat, you're not affected at all.
:|>
:
:Aha.  That's the part that makes me nervous too.  Who gets to decide if
:I am a threat?  Based on appearance?  Would someone feel more threatened
:
Actions determine whether someone presents a threat... and I don't carry a gun
so much for people, cause I tend to fade if there are any about, but due to
several encounters with formerly domestic dogs...  these critters ain't scared
of folks, and can get aggressive.

:on staying at and saw someone sitting there cleaning his gun.  Softly I backed
:away, and hiked another 5 miles to get *out of there*.  I'll freely admit it here:
:I'm not afraid of guns; I'm afraid of people that bring them into the backcountry.
:
I'd count that as a fear of guns... somebody having the sense to keep their
weapons maintained isn't as likely to present a threat.  The Army taught me to
clean any weapons DAILY, since they usually need it, regardless of whether
they've been used... You'd be amazed how sweaty a holster can get, or how much
trail dust will get in it.  And I guess you'd be scared of me and my former
Explorer Post... seems the advisors were National Guard Special Forces grunts,
and considered it heresy to be out in the woods without a weapon... course,
usually you wouldn't notice 'em... :)  They tended to avoid public scrutiny...

:Of course, that may be the way to solve the solitude problem.  Just carry a gun
:and display it prominently, and one probably won't see most of the other hikers
:out there, who will be hiding in the woods.  1/2 :-)
:
: - Dania
My 9mm goes in a hip holster, mixed in with magazine pouches (hold lotsa stuff
in them), canteens, knives, compasses, and such...  Not so easy to notice, in
the off chance I decide to be visible... I prefer not to be, since walking
quietly away from active areas increases the number of non-human type critters
I see...

James


When are the Yankees planning on activating Melido Perez?  His 15 days on
the DL are up today, but are they bringing him back this weekend?


I feel childish.

Who mentioned dirtbikes? We're talking highway speeds here. If you go 70mph
on your dirtbike then feel free to contribute.

Because it wouldn't be a Jeep if it didn't. A friend of mine just bought one
and it has more warning stickers than those little 4-wheelers (I guess that's
becuase it's a big 4 wheeler). Anyway, it's written in about ten places that
the windshield should remain up at all times, and it looks like they've made
it a pain to put it down anyway, from what he says. To be fair, I do admit
that it would be a similar matter to drive a windscreenless Jeep on the
highway as for bikers. They may participate in this discussion, but they're
probably few and far between, so I maintain that this topic is of interest
primarily to bikers.

Notice how Ed picked on the more insignificant (the lower case part) of the
two parts of the statement. Besides, around here it is quite rare to see
bikers wear goggles on the street. It's either full face with shield, or
open face with either nothing or aviator sunglasses. My experience of
bicycling with contact lenses and sunglasses says that non-wraparound
sunglasses do almost nothing to keep the crap out of ones eyes.

Ok, ok, fine, whatever you say, but lets make some attmept to stick to the
point. I've been out on the road where I had to stop every half hour to clean
my shield there were so many bugs (and my jacket would be a blood-splattered
mess) and I'd see guys with shorty helmets, NO GOGGLES, long beards and tight
t-shirts merrily cruising along on bikes with no windscreens. Lets be really
specific this time, so that even Ed understands. Does anbody think that
splattering bugs with one's face is fun, or are there other reasons to do it?
Image? Laziness? To make a point about freedom of bug splattering?


I have a Fostex X-26 4-Track Recorder for sale.  It is in excellent condition
and includes Dolby Noise Reduction, sub-mixing, 6 inputs and uses normal cassettes.  If you are interested, make me an offer.  Please respond to:

	zmed16@trc.amoco.com

Thanks,


No, obviously talking about Research Assistants.  I favor a high protein,
low fat diet, barely adequate salary on a fixed time schedule, four hours
of sleep a night, continuous infusion of latte, unpredictable praise
mixed randomly with anxiety-provoking, everpresent glances with
lowered eyebrows, unrealistic promises of rapid publication, and
every three months a dinner consisting of nothing but microbrewery ale
and free pretzels.  Actually, mine hails from San Diego, and indeed
has more problems in Seattle in cold weather than in warm.


Dbase IV 1.5 for sale, 3.5 inch disks, all registration included (so you
can upgrade to 2.0 if you want), manuals still shrinkwrapped, disks only
opened to verify they all work.  Asking $175 or best offer.


Well, does it change the fact that during the period of 1914 to 1920,
the fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government ordered, incited, assisted
and participated in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people because
of race, religion and national origin?

As in the past in Turkiye, and today in Azerbaijan, for utopic and
idiotic causes the Armenians brought havoc to their neighbors. A
short-sighted and misplaced nationalistic fervor with a wrong agenda
and anachronistic methods the Armenians continue to become pernicious
for the region. As usual, they will be treated accordingly by their
neighbors. Nagorno-Karabag is a mountainous enclave that lies completely
within Azerbaijan with no border or history whatsoever connected to
x-Soviet Armenia. Besides the geographical aspect, Nagorno-Karabag is
the historic homeland and the 'cradle' of the artistic and literary
heritage of Azerbaijan, which renders the Armenian claims preposterous,
even lunatic.

And we still demand:

1. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government, as the heirs of the Armenian
dictatorship, recognize the Turkish Genocide;

2. that x-Soviet Armenia return the historic homeland to the Turkish and
Kurdish people;

3. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government make material reparations for their
heinous and unspeakable crime to the victims of the Turkish Genocide;

4. that all world governments officially recognize the Turkish Genocide
and Turkish territorial rights and refuse to succumb to all Armenian
political pressure.

The awareness of the Turkish people of the necessity of solidarity in the
efforts to pursue the Turkish Cause is seen by the victims of the first
genocide of the 20th century as a positive step.

Now what would you do?

Source: 'The Sunday Times,' 1 March 1992 (a British Weekly, written by
        Thomas Goltz, from Agdam, Azerbaijan.)

    ARMENIAN SOLDIERS MASSACRE HUNDREDS OF FLEEING FAMILIES.

    The spiralling  violence gripping the  outer republics of  the former
Soviet Union gained new impetus  yesterday with cold-blooded slaughter of
hundreds of women and children in war-racked Nagorno-Karabakh.
    Survivors  reported that  Armenian soldiers  shot and  bayoneted more
than 450  Azeris, many of  them women and  children, who were  fleeing an
attack  on their  town. Hundreds,  possibly thousands,  were missing  and
feared dead.
    The attackers  killed most of  the soldiers and  volunteers defending
the women  and children.  They then  turned their  guns on  the terrified
refugees. The few  survivors later described what  happened:" That's when
the real  slaughter began," said  Azer Hajiev,  one of three  soldiers to
survive. "The  Armenians just shot and  shot. And then they  came in and
started carving up people with their bayonets and knives."
    " They were shooting, shooting, shooting", echoed Rasia Aslanova, who
arrived in Agdam with other women and children who made their way through
Armenian lines. She said her husband, Kayun, and a son-in-law were killed
in front of her. Her daughter was still missing.
    One boy who arrived in Agdam had an ear sliced off.

    The survivors  said 2000  others, some of  whom had  fled separately,
were still missing in the gruelling terrain; many could perish from their
wounds or the cold.
    By late  yesterday, 479 deaths had  been registered at the  morgue in
Agdam's morgue,  and 29 bodies  had been buried  in the cemetery.  Of the
seven corpses  I saw awaiting  burial, two  were children and  three were
women, one shot through the chest at point blank range.
    Agdam hospital was  a scene of carnage and terror.  Doctors said they
had 140 patients who escaped slaughter, most with bullet injuries or deep
stab wounds.
    Nor were they safe in Agdam. On friday night rockets fell on the city
which  has a  population  of 150,000,  destroying  several buildings  and
killing one person.

Serdar Argic


You'd need to launch HLVs to send up large amounts of stuff *if* you assume
no new launcher development.  If you assume new launcher development, with
lower costs as a specific objective, then you probably don't want to
build something HLV-sized anyway.


Oh, that was just a bet.


know
he
now.

And Michael Jackson, Jack Nicholson, and Bill Cosby wouldn't be
making near as much money if they weren't entertainers. So what's
your point?

for a
hurting.

Will they?  You can't usually take away one of the team's best
players and still expect them to win.  Or do you think the
Pirates will continue to win without Barry Bonds.

athletic
working

So. Again, Jack Nicholson gets paid much more than most hard
working citizens (and much more than Rickey Henderson for that
matter).

when the
million--also,

The reason the latter often happens is that many of these folks
start making the real big salaries late in their career, when they
are on the decline. (There are exceptions, of course. Dave Parker
fell apart after making his first million because he put most
of that million up his nose.)


Hi, I'm looking for the 3-D studio driver for the
	Oak card with 1 M of RAM.
	This would be GREATLY (and I mean that) appreciated


Ok, then where is the info for the Licensing kept?  Which file?  In the
organization box I put my address, and when I moved, I wanted to change it, but
couldn't find it.  I could find my name, but not the organization.

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  | Robert S. Dubinski |  Aliases include:  Robb, Regal, Sir, Mr., and I |
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  | Marquette University ||||||||||| Math / Computer Science Double-Major|
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  | Internet Address: 2A42Dubinski.vms.csd.mu.edu  |	Milwaukee, WI    |


I was waiting for this. I think your question should be rephrased. The many
verses of the Bible which condem homosexuality (by our beliefs) have been
shoved down the throats of homosexuals for a long time by (well-meaning?)
Christians. The question is how do they interpret these verses. Any discussion
of any issue (this or any other issue) requires a proof of your case as well
as a disproof of the opposing view. We are already familiar with those verses
and many have proven to themselves that these condem homosexual behaviour. We
must now establish reasons for not believing this to be true based on the
interpretation of these scriptures given by someone who has come to grips with
them.


A(>  Can anyone tell me if a bloodcount of 40 when diagnosed as hypoglycemic is
A(>  dangerous, i.e. indicates a possible pancreatic problem?  One Dr. says no, the
A(>  other (not his specialty) says the first is negligent and that another blood
A(>  test should be done.  Also, what is a good diet (what has worked) for a hypo-
A(>  glycemic?  TIA.
A(>
A(>
A(>  Anthony Anello
A(>  Fermilab
A(>  Batavia, Illinois

   Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the proper
   channels, you might consider ther following:

   1) Chelated Manganese   25-50mg/day.
   2) Chelated Chromium    400-600mcg/day.
   3) Increase protein through foods or supplements.
   4) Avoid supplements/foods high in Potassium, Calcium, Zinc.
   5) Avoid Vit C supplements in excess of 100mg.
   6) Avoid honey and foods high in simple sugars.
   7) Enjoy breads, cereals, grains...

   Discuss the above with your health practitioner for compatibility
   with your body chemistry and safety.

   --Ron--


Here is the OPI (Offensive Production Index) for all NL players with at
least 10 at-bats.

It is early in the season so there are some high numbers.  Barry Bonds
finished last season at 0.795.

I welcome comments and suggestions.

Kevin

League OPI: 0.410
League BA:  0.252
League SLG: 0.375
League OBA: 0.321

Rank Player                 OPI     BA    SLG    OBA
-----------------------------------------------------
1    Phi,daulton           1.101  0.333  0.875  0.515
2    Phi,kruk              1.069  0.429  0.821  0.529
3    Cub,grace             1.007  0.452  0.742  0.514
4    Cub,may               0.931  0.389  0.889  0.421
5    Col,boston            0.888  0.545  0.545  0.545
6    Pit,bell              0.873  0.429  0.714  0.467
7    Col,galarraga         0.867  0.458  0.708  0.458
8    StL,pena              0.833  0.400  0.600  0.516
9    StL,zeile             0.811  0.440  0.560  0.500
10   Cin,mitchell          0.810  0.429  0.643  0.467
11   Mon,lansing           0.792  0.419  0.677  0.438
12   Pit,slaught           0.754  0.474  0.526  0.474
13   Mon,vanderwal         0.746  0.389  0.556  0.476
14   NYM,tfernandez        0.709  0.300  0.400  0.500
15   SnF,martinez          0.697  0.300  0.400  0.500
16   Hou,bagwell           0.695  0.367  0.567  0.424
17   Col,hayes             0.686  0.333  0.667  0.364
18   Col,eyoung            0.682  0.333  0.500  0.407
19   Mon,alou              0.675  0.371  0.600  0.389
20   Cin,milligan          0.659  0.333  0.375  0.515
21   Phi,dykstra           0.646  0.214  0.571  0.405
22   SnF,bonds             0.624  0.280  0.680  0.333
22   Flo,conine            0.624  0.393  0.393  0.469
24   SnD,plantier          0.603  0.286  0.571  0.375
25   Hou,gonzalez          0.596  0.296  0.667  0.296
26   Hou,anthony           0.594  0.320  0.480  0.414
27   Col,cole              0.579  0.318  0.409  0.400
28   Atl,sanders           0.576  0.357  0.643  0.357
29   Mon,berry             0.566  0.273  0.273  0.500
30   Cub,sosa              0.558  0.303  0.545  0.343
31   StL,jefferies         0.551  0.269  0.692  0.296
32   Pit,vanslyke          0.549  0.296  0.444  0.387
33   *Montreal             0.548  0.312  0.490  0.367
34   Los,butler            0.545  0.296  0.333  0.457
35   Mon,grissom           0.542  0.333  0.455  0.371
36   Pit,king              0.536  0.308  0.346  0.438
37   SnD,gwynn             0.533  0.280  0.400  0.379
38   Pit,merced            0.532  0.300  0.400  0.391
39   NYM,murray            0.521  0.308  0.462  0.357
40   StL,gilkey            0.514  0.312  0.438  0.353
41   NYM,bonilla           0.507  0.292  0.417  0.370
42   SnD,walters           0.501  0.300  0.500  0.333
43   Cub,wilson            0.497  0.323  0.452  0.344
44   Flo,weiss             0.492  0.261  0.348  0.433
45   *Philadelphia         0.487  0.243  0.431  0.348
46   Atl,justice           0.480  0.207  0.448  0.361
47   *Pittsburgh           0.479  0.292  0.428  0.351
48   StL,osmith            0.476  0.310  0.448  0.355
49   Phi,incaviglia        0.473  0.250  0.500  0.308
50   Pit,young             0.470  0.286  0.500  0.310
51   *StLouis              0.467  0.275  0.445  0.344
52   *Colorado             0.459  0.287  0.426  0.327
53   NYM,hundley           0.458  0.300  0.450  0.333
54   NYM,orsulak           0.454  0.357  0.429  0.400
55   SnF,benjamin          0.440  0.200  0.500  0.273
56   Atl,gant              0.438  0.214  0.464  0.333
56   *NYMets               0.438  0.261  0.345  0.356
58   *Houston              0.436  0.260  0.415  0.318
59   Mon,pitcher           0.434  0.312  0.375  0.353
60   Phi,morandini         0.433  0.240  0.360  0.321
61   Hou,cedeno            0.427  0.280  0.440  0.308
62   Cin,sabo              0.423  0.226  0.452  0.273
63   SnF,manwaring         0.413  0.261  0.435  0.292
64   *SnFrancisco          0.412  0.253  0.396  0.315
65   Atl,blauser           0.409  0.276  0.310  0.364
66   SnF,thompson          0.408  0.278  0.389  0.316
66   Hou,caminiti          0.408  0.259  0.481  0.286
68   Flo,barberie          0.405  0.267  0.267  0.371
69   Mon,cordero           0.400  0.276  0.345  0.323
70   SnD,sheffield         0.397  0.241  0.448  0.267
71   Los,karros            0.392  0.259  0.296  0.355
72   SnF,williams          0.391  0.226  0.452  0.250
72   SnD,mcgriff           0.391  0.192  0.385  0.276
74   Flo,destrade          0.390  0.267  0.333  0.333
75   Col,girardi           0.388  0.238  0.381  0.304
76   Atl,bream             0.386  0.182  0.409  0.250
77   Mon,wood              0.385  0.200  0.300  0.333
78   Flo,santiago          0.384  0.200  0.360  0.286
79   Phi,thompson          0.383  0.227  0.273  0.320
80   SnF,clayton           0.382  0.345  0.379  0.345
80   Los,piazza            0.382  0.304  0.391  0.333
82   SnD,bell              0.378  0.273  0.364  0.304
83   Los,wallach           0.374  0.200  0.400  0.273
84   Cin,larkin            0.367  0.281  0.281  0.361
85   Pit,garcia            0.366  0.273  0.318  0.304
85   *Cincinnati           0.366  0.256  0.319  0.326
87   NYM,coleman           0.363  0.259  0.259  0.310
88   NYM,kent              0.362  0.190  0.286  0.320
89   StL,whiten            0.361  0.240  0.360  0.321
90   Cin,roberts           0.359  0.278  0.278  0.333
90   *Cubs                 0.359  0.236  0.366  0.277
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117  Hou,taubensee         0.294  0.190  0.333  0.227
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127  StL,lankford          0.225  0.133  0.133  0.316
128  Atl,olson             0.224  0.150  0.150  0.261
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130  Cub,sanchez           0.212  0.188  0.219  0.212
131  Phi,duncan            0.202  0.214  0.214  0.214
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136  Atl,pitcher           0.164  0.182  0.182  0.182
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147  Hou,pitcher           0.053  0.067  0.067  0.067
147  Col,benavides         0.053  0.067  0.067  0.067
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      0.74*1B + 1.28*2B + 1.64*3B + 2.25*HR + 0.53*BB + 0.34*(SB-2*CS)
OPI = ----------------------------------------------------------------
                              AB - H

BA = H / AB

SLG = (H + 2B + 2*3B + 3*HR) / AB

OBA = (H + BB) / (AB + BB)


Version 2.03 drivers are current.


   Watch out.  Often when some scumbag steals the cover, that means
   that they were or are looking to steal the bike.  In my case, I
   had a faded cover stolen off a bmw R100RS that was stashed in an
   apartment carport and not visible from the street.  They evidently
   decided the beemer wasn't worth stealing, but did try the next night to
   steal a Honda Hurricane 600 parked in the next apartment building.
   A neighbor heard them wheeling it out and called the cops.

I know this is just setting myself up, but this is actually one of the
things that is really good about BMW bikes.  From all accounts I've
heard practically no one steals BMWs. Probably it is similar for Moto
Guzzis and other relative "exotics" since there isn't a large demand
for parts and the bike would be much easier to track down. It seems
that the most stolen bikes are Harleys and 600cc Jap sport bikes.


I would say there are also significant numbers of unscrupulous doctors (of
the squeaky-clean, traditional crew-cut, talk to the AMA before starting
any treatment, kind) who recommend treatments that, though "accepted", may
not be necessary for the patient at the time.  And all for making a quick
buck.  I would not be surprised if the cost of medical services in the U.S. is
significantly inflated by these "quacks of a different color".  In fact, I'd
say these doctors are the most dangerous since they call into question the
true focus of the medical profession.  The AMA and the Boards should focus
on these "quacks" instead of devoting unbelievable energy on 'search-and-
destroy-missions' to pull the licenses of those doctors who are trying non-
traditional or not fully accepted treatments for their desperate patients
that traditional/accepted medicine cannot help.

***************************************************
Now to make a general comment on many recent posts:
***************************************************

Lately I've seen the word "quack" bandied about recklessly.  When a doctor or
doctor-wanna-be has decided to quit discussing any controversial medical
subject in a civilized manner, all he/she has to do is say "quack-quack" and
somehow they magically expect the readership of this newsgroup to roll over
on their backs and pee-pee on themselves in obedience.  What do they teach
you in medical school - how to throw your authority around?

Let me put it another way to make my point clear:  "quack" is a nebulous word
lacking in any precision.  Its sole use is to obfuscate the issues at hand.
The indiscriminate use of this word is a sure sign of incompetency;  and coming
from any medical doctor (or wanna-be), where competency is expected, is real
scary.

But what do I know, I've already been diagnosed by the sci.med.gods in this
newsgroup as being 'anal retentive', and 'psychotic'.  I look forward to more
net.diagnoses.  Hey, they're free.

Jon "Quacks 'R Us" Noring

(p.s., may I suggest - seriously - that if the doctors and wanna-be-doctors on
the net who refuse to have an open mind on alternative treatments and
theories, such as the "yeast theory", should create your own moderated group.
You can call it sci.med.traditional.moderated or sci.med.AMA-approved, so you
can keep anal-retentives like me out of it.)

--

Charter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.


My suggestion would be to contact Microsoft about the Video4Windows SDK.
You would need to call Developer Services at (800)227-4679 extension 11771
from 6:30am to 5:30pm Pacific time.


[...]

Wait a minute, Doug.  I know you are better informed than that.  The US
has never invaded Nicaragua (as far as I know).  We liberated Grenada
from the Cubans	to protect US citizens there and to prevent the completion
of a strategic air strip.  Panama we invaded, true (twice this century).
Vietnam?  We were invited in by the government of S. Vietnam.  (I guess
we "invaded" Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War, eh?)  Mexico?  We have
invaded Mexico 2 or 3 times, once this century, but there were no missiles
for anyone to shoot over here at that time.  Hawaii?  We liberated it from
Spain.

So if you mean by the word "invaded" some sort of military action where
we cross someone's border, you are right 5 out of 6.  But normally
"invaded" carries a connotation of attacking an autonomous nation.
(If some nation "invades" the U.S. Virgin Islands, would they be
invading the Virgin Islands or the U.S.?)  So from this point of
view, your score falls to 2 out of 6 (Mexico, Panama).

[...]

No, it's someone who believes in "peace-at-all-costs".  In other words,
a person who would have supported giving Hitler not only Austria and
Czechoslakia, but Poland too if it could have averted the War.  And one
who would allow Hitler to wipe all *all* Jews, slavs, and political
dissidents in areas he controlled as long as he left the rest of us alone.

"Is it supposed to be bad to be a peace-nik," you ask?  Well, it depends
on what your values are.  If you value life over liberty, peace over
freedom, then I guess not.  But if liberty and freedom mean more to you
than life itself; if you'd rather die fighting for liberty than live
under a tyrant's heel, then yes, it's "bad" to be a peace-nik.

The problem with most peace-niks it they consider those of us who are
not like them to be "bad" and "unconscionable".  I would not have any
argument or problem with a peace-nik if they held to their ideals and
stayed out of all conflicts or issues, especially those dealing with
the national defense.  But no, they are not willing to allow us to
legitimately hold a different point-of-view.  They militate and
many times resort to violence all in the name of peace.  (What rank
hypocrisy!)  All to stop we "warmongers" who are willing to stand up
and defend our freedoms against tyrants, and who realize that to do
so requires a strong national defense.

Time to get off the soapbox now.  :)

[...]

Regards,


Actually, an apostle is someone who is sent.  If you will, mailmen could
be called apostles in that sense.  However, with Jesus, they were
designated and were given power.  Remember that there were many
thousands of people who witnessed what Jesus did.  That didn't make them
apostles, though.


So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the
U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida?


gnuplot, etc. make it easy to plot real valued functions of 2 variables
but I want to plot functions whose values are 2-vectors. I have been
doing this by plotting arrays of arrows (complete with arrowheads) but
before going further, I thought I would ask whether someone has already
done the work. Any pointers??

thanx in advance


Tonigth a TV journal here in Brasil announced that an object,
beyond Pluto's orbit, was found by an observatory at Hawaii. They
named the object Karla.

	The program said the object wasn't a gaseous giant planet, and
should be composed by rocks and ices.

	Can someone confirm these information? Could this object be a
new planet or a Kuiper object?

	Thanks in advance.

	Francisco.


It was shafting on the part of the Arab land owners for doing it
without notifying their tenant farmers and for not being responsible
enough to make provisions for them, but rather just leaving
them to their fate.

The point is that the land was sold legally, often at prices
above its actual value.  It was legal, and good business for
the sellers, though it left the Palestinians who worked the land
in a poor situation.

I don't know if others share this opinion.  It is mine,
and I'm sure there are some who agree and some who don't
The way I see it, the fallahin were caught in circumstances
beyond their control, in that since they didn't own the land,
they didn't have a say. Of course, now for the sake of the "greater
Arab unity" the Arabs are angry that the land was sold to the Jews
(an act that is illegal in Jordan), but when it happened, it was just
business.

The purpose of buying the land was to provide space and jobs for
Jewish immigrants.  In any case, no matter what the purpose,
the sales were legal, so I really don't see any grounds for
contesting them.


Archive-name: space/schedule
Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:23 $

SPACE SHUTTLE ANSWERS, LAUNCH SCHEDULES, TV COVERAGE

    SHUTTLE LAUNCHINGS AND LANDINGS; SCHEDULES AND HOW TO SEE THEM

    Shuttle operations are discussed in the Usenet group sci.space.shuttle,
    and Ken Hollis (gandalf@pro-electric.cts.com) posts a compressed version
    of the shuttle manifest (launch dates and other information)
    periodically there. The manifest is also available from the Ames SPACE
    archive in SPACE/FAQ/manifest. The portion of his manifest formerly
    included in this FAQ has been removed; please refer to his posting or
    the archived copy. For the most up to date information on upcoming
    missions, call (407) 867-INFO (867-4636) at Kennedy Space Center.

    Official NASA shuttle status reports are posted to sci.space.news
    frequently.

    WHY DOES THE SHUTTLE ROLL JUST AFTER LIFTOFF?

    The following answer and translation are provided by Ken Jenks
    (kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov).

    The "Ascent Guidance and Flight Control Training Manual," ASC G&C 2102,

	"During the vertical rise phase, the launch pad attitude is
	commanded until an I-loaded V(rel) sufficient to assure launch tower
	clearance is achieved. Then, the tilt maneuver (roll program)
	orients the vehicle to a heads down attitude required to generate a
	negative q-alpha, which in turn alleviates structural loading. Other
	advantages with this attitude are performance gain, decreased abort
	maneuver complexity, improved S-band look angles, and crew view of
	the horizon. The tilt maneuver is also required to start gaining
	downrange velocity to achieve the main engine cutoff (MECO) target
	in second stage."

    This really is a good answer, but it's couched in NASA jargon. I'll try
    to interpret.

    1)	We wait until the Shuttle clears the tower before rolling.

    2)	Then, we roll the Shuttle around so that the angle of attack
	between the wind caused by passage through the atmosphere (the
	"relative wind") and the chord of the wings (the imaginary line
	between the leading edge and the trailing edge) is a slightly
	negative angle ("a negative q-alpha").	This causes a little bit of
	"downward" force (toward the belly of the Orbiter, or the +Z
	direction) and this force "alleviates structural loading."
	We have to be careful about those wings -- they're about the
	most "delicate" part of the vehicle.

    3)	The new attitude (after the roll) also allows us to carry more
	mass to orbit, or to achieve a higher orbit with the same mass, or
	to change the orbit to a higher or lower inclination than would be
	the case if we didn't roll ("performance gain").

    4)	The new attitude allows the crew to fly a less complicated
	flight path if they had to execute one of the more dangerous abort
	maneuvers, the Return To Launch Site ("decreased abort maneuver
	complexity").

    5)	The new attitude improves the ability for ground-based radio
	antennae to have a good line-of-sight signal with the S-band radio
	antennae on the Orbiter ("improved S-band look angles").

    6)	The new attitude allows the crew to see the horizon, which is a
	helpful (but not mandatory) part of piloting any flying machine.

    7)	The new attitude orients the Shuttle so that the body is
	more nearly parallel with the ground, and the nose to the east
	(usually).  This allows the thrust from the engines to add velocity
	in the correct direction to eventually achieve orbit.  Remember:
	velocity is a vector quantity made of both speed and direction.
	The Shuttle has to have a large horizontal component to its
	velocity and a very small vertical component to attain orbit.

    This all begs the question, "Why isn't the launch pad oriented to give
    this nice attitude to begin with?  Why does the Shuttle need to roll to
    achieve that attitude?"  The answer is that the pads were leftovers
    from the Apollo days.  The Shuttle straddles two flame trenches -- one
    for the Solid Rocket Motor exhaust, one for the Space Shuttle Main
    Engine exhaust.  (You can see the effects of this on any daytime
    launch.  The SRM exhaust is dirty gray garbage, and the SSME exhaust is
    fluffy white steam.  Watch for the difference between the "top"
    [Orbiter side] and the "bottom" [External Tank side] of the stack.) The
    access tower and other support and service structure are all oriented
    basically the same way they were for the Saturn V's.  (A side note: the
    Saturn V's also had a roll program.  Don't ask me why -- I'm a Shuttle
    guy.)

    I checked with a buddy in Ascent Dynamics.	He added that the "roll
    maneuver" is really a maneuver in all three axes: roll, pitch and yaw.
    The roll component of that maneuver is performed for the reasons
    stated.  The pitch component controls loading on the wings by keeping
    the angle of attack (q-alpha) within a tight tolerance.  The yaw
    component is used to determine the orbital inclination.  The total
    maneuver is really expressed as a "quaternion," a grad-level-math
    concept for combining all three rotation matrices in one four-element
    array.

    HOW TO RECEIVE THE NASA TV CHANNEL, NASA SELECT

    NASA SELECT is broadcast by satellite. If you have access to a satellite
    dish, you can find SELECT on Satcom F2R, Transponder 13, C-Band, 72
    degrees West Longitude, Audio 6.8, Frequency 3960 MHz. F2R is stationed
    over the Atlantic, and is increasingly difficult to receive from
    California and points west. During events of special interest (e.g.
    shuttle missions), SELECT is sometimes broadcast on a second satellite
    for these viewers.

    If you can't get a satellite feed, some cable operators carry SELECT.
    It's worth asking if yours doesn't.

    The SELECT schedule is found in the NASA Headline News which is
    frequently posted to sci.space.news. Generally it carries press
    conferences, briefings by NASA officials, and live coverage of shuttle
    missions and planetary encounters. SELECT has recently begun carrying
    much more secondary material (associated with SPACELINK) when missions
    are not being covered.

    AMATEUR RADIO FREQUENCIES FOR SHUTTLE MISSIONS

    The following are believed to rebroadcast space shuttle mission audio:

	W6FXN  - Los Angeles
	K6MF   - Ames Research Center, Mountain View, California
	WA3NAN - Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC), Greenbelt, Maryland.
	W5RRR  - Johnson Space Center (JSC), Houston, Texas
	W6VIO  - Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, California.
	W1AW Voice Bulletins

	Station    VHF	   10m	   15m	   20m	  40m	 80m
	------	 ------  ------  ------  ------  -----	-----
	W6FXN	 145.46
	K6MF	 145.585			 7.165	3.840
	WA3NAN	 147.45  28.650  21.395  14.295  7.185	3.860
	W5RRR	 146.64  28.400  21.350  14.280  7.227	3.850
	W6VIO	 224.04		 21.340  14.270
	W6VIO	 224.04		 21.280  14.282  7.165	3.840
	W1AW		 28.590  21.390  14.290  7.290	3.990

    W5RRR transmits mission audio on 146.64, a special event station on the
    other frequencies supplying Keplerian Elements and mission information.

    W1AW also transmits on 147.555, 18.160. No mission audio but they
    transmit voice bulletins at 0245 and 0545 UTC.

    Frequencies in the 10-20m bands require USB and frequencies in the 40
    and 80m bands LSB. Use FM for the VHF frequencies.

    [This item was most recently updated courtesy of Gary Morris
    (g@telesoft.com, KK6YB, N5QWC)]

    SOLID ROCKET BOOSTER FUEL COMPOSITION

    Reference: "Shuttle Flight Operations Manual" Volume 8B - Solid Rocket
    Booster Systems, NASA Document JSC-12770

    Propellant Composition (percent)

    Ammonium perchlorate (oxidizer)			69.6
    Aluminum						16
    Iron Oxide (burn rate catalyst)			0.4
    Polybutadiene-acrilic acid-acrylonitrile (a rubber) 12.04
    Epoxy curing agent					1.96

    End reference

    Comment: The aluminum, rubber, and epoxy all burn with the oxidizer.


   >>The info I am about to give is not a rumour, it's the truth. The new
   >>macintosh coming in the second quarter, will have a cpu of their own.

 ]Excuse me but... have not all Macs got a CPU!!!

 ]Alain

Alain:
Get your facts straight before you post something like this.  The Duo
Dock does not have a CPU of its own.  It is a docking station with
ports connecting various components, including the portable PowerBook
with its own CPU.  I guess these rumored new Duo Docks have a built-in
CPU to perform functions of their own.  Interesting!  If they're not
compatible with the current Duo models, I think you'll be hearing a
lot more "screwed by Apple" complaints.  Imagine a company obsoleting
(ooh, a new verb!) a virtually brand new computer... sheesh...

 Ken

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth Simon               Dept of Sociology, Indiana University
Internet: KSSIMON@INDIANA.EDU              Bitnet: KSSIMON@IUBACS


In addition to restricted mileage, many classic insurance carriers also require
that the vehicle be garaged when not in use.

$0.02

Ericy


Do you question the existence of Alexander the Great, Tilgrath Pilisar III,
Nero, Caligula, Josephus, Cyrus the Great, Artexerxes?   Their documents
have decayed to dust too.  Brian, why another excuse?

Peter wrote a bit of the Bible.  What Peter says about God is what
the Bible says.

Consider the Bible a court recording.  Over the period of thousands of
years, various people come up and testify of their experience with the
living God.  Up comes Abraham the wealthy rancher.  Up comes Moses,
once the high official of Egypt.  Up comes Elijah, a priest.  Up comes
David, a mere shepherd who became King.  Up comes the pagan King
Nebuchanezzar.  Up comes the pagan King of Persia, Cyrus.  Up comes
Nehemiah, cupbearer to the King of Persia.  Then Matthew, an IRS agent
takes the stand.  Up comes Luke, an M.D.  Then Paul a Jew who use
to kill Christians for fun.  Up comes John, a 17 year old boy.  Up
comes Peter, a fishermen.  Up comes James, the brother of Jesus himself.
Up comes hundreds of others.  You hear testimony from fishermen, IRS
agents, priests, Kings.  The court hearing lasts thousands of years
with people coming up and testifying about the God who calls himself
"I am."

While you are listening to all this stuff, you realize that
King David could have never known John, Solomon could have never known
Matthew, Nehemiah could have never known Peter.  You realize that all these
people are independent witnesses, and so, you rule out collaboration.  Yet
all of the witnesses tell of the same God.   Each testifier tells
of his own experiences with the living God.  Each experience is
different, but each experience has enough cross-over to unmistakenly
reveal that each one of these people is talking about the very same God.
What Daniel did not know about God, the 3rd Highest Official of
Babylon, God revealed to John 600 years later--but with a different
perspective.  No two testimonies are identical.  Each testimony
dares to venture off what is already known.  Yet each witness's
testimony, even though different from those prior, consistently
describes harmoniously fitting facets of the character of the same God.

Now.  As we stare gazing at the computer, you got this seeming fanatic
on the other end of the net, saying, I know this God  "I am".  He has
revealed himself to me too.  He also calls himself Jesus (John 8:58).
Please believe me.  I am telling the truth.  It is wonderful to know him.


he

     Are we talking about ColorView for DOS here?
     I have version 2.0 and it writes the temp files to its own
     current directory.
     What later versions do, I admit that I don't know.
     Assuming your "expert" referenced above is talking about
     the version that I have, then I'd say he is correct.
     Is the ColorView for unix what is being discussed?
     Just mixed up, confused, befuddled, but genuinely and
     entirely curious....

     Uncle Fester


the classic references in this area are Jacques Ellul for a
liberal/evangelical perspective and Os Guiness for a straight
evangelical view.  If you want to look at non-christian sources
try Alvin Toffler as the perennial optimist.  His views while
blatently non christian explore where technology may be going.

This is regardless of technology.  Be careful to separate the issues of
related to speed and dispersion of technology (how far the letter
went and how quickly it got there) and the message being passed in the
technology (something that seems to be totally wrong.)

When lecturing in this area I challenge my (non-christan/atheistic) class
about the impact technology has on life, quality of life and the rights
that they consider important.  Depending on how you work out your
faith will determine your response to the use of technology.  For example
friends of mine are considering IVF due to a life threatening situation the
wife is going through; when it is over they will have the baby. (God
willing).  In this case the technology is available and my friends have to
decide what to do.  In all cases though you must decide if the technology
is against God's revealed word.

Regards
 David


Mr. water-head,
i never said that israel diverted lebanese rivers, in fact i said that
israel went into southern lebanon to  make sure that no
water is being used on the lebanese
side, so that all water would run into Jordan river where there
israel will use it  !#$%^%&&*-head.


And I'm sure that is a great comfort to the widows and children of
those stabbed, beaten and burned to death. The real question is,
"Did the crime rate in England go down, after they enacted
gun control laws?" If you look at the rates before and after their
first such law in 1920, you will see no effect.


I edited a few newsgroup from that line (don't like to crosspost THAT
much).  I can't compare the two, but I recently got an HP DeskJet 500.

I'm very pleased with the output (remember that I'm used to imagens,
laser and postscript printers at school -- looks very good.  You have
to be careful to let it dry before touching it, as it will smudge.

The deskjet is SLOW.  This is in comparison to the other printers I
mentioned.  I have no idea how the bubblejet compares.

The interface between Win3.1 and the printer is just dandy, I've not
had any problems with it.

Hope that helps some.

--Cindy

--
Cindy Tittle Moore


i did a workshop on this for an episcopalian student gathering a
couple months ago because i wanted to know the answer too.  as far as
i could tell, although that story was never specifically _told_ in the
bible, many references are made to it, primarily in the new testament.
in the old testament there is actually an entirely different view of
satan as a (excuse the pun) "devil's advocate" for yahweh.  see the
book of job.  getting back to the fallen angel story, there are _no_
references to "lucifer" in the bible except for a mistranslation of
"the morning star" in the king james version (isaiah 14:12), which
probably referred to a babylonian monarch much in the same was as "the
sun king" referred to louis xiv.

all in all, i don't know where the story _came from_; it may have been
rolling around for a long time, or milton (_paradise lost_) may have
invented it.  sorry for the sketchiness of the rest of this, but i am
in a hurry and need to eat lunch!  feel free to email me about the
other stuff i found out....  (although a lot of it is just the result
of a bible concordance program called "quickverse" -- it's really
lousy, by the way -- don't buy it.)


Where can you get info (brochures...) on Differential GPS Systems and where to
buy them?


I have a pair of Oakleys that cost about $100 new a year ago.  I hardly ever
wore them because they just don't look right on me.  They are orange and
blue and are the "blade" kind (Terminator style).  I am willing to sell these
for $40 to the first response I get.
I also have a Bulls vs. Blazers game for the SNES that is in perfect
condition.  I am selling it for $35.  It includes the instruction manual.


Would someone please give me the address for Texas Ranger
ticket orders. Thanks very much.


I participated a promotion by a company called Visual Images.
They sent me a award certificate three months ago and asked
me to buy their promotion package in order to receive the major
award. They mislabled my address and I did not receive my package
until one month ago. I was mad and angry about how it took them
so long to get my package. So I wrote them a letter and requested
for a refund. They never return my letter. I was lucky enough to
find out their telephone number through operator and received the
package. I immediately returned the package and wrote them another
letter to ask for refund. The package was returned because they
address they put on the package was incorrect. I attempted to
call them and learnd that they have changed their telephone number.
It took me at least 10 phone calls to find out their new number,
but they refused to take any responsibility. I spoke to their
manager and she said she would call me back, but she has not call
yet. But I was able to get their address from their front desk.
Should I just go ahead and send the package? Or should I waite until
they call me back?

I know there are several people on the net has experience with the
same company. I would like to know how they got their money back.
If you have similar experience, please advise me.

Thanks in advance,


     Digitally-tuned shorwave radio with alarm clock and 5 presets per band.
       Has AM, FM, SW1, and SW2 bands.   Asking $25 + shppg.
         Reply for more details.    Thanks      Pete 3mwieu4@cmuvm.cmich.edu


# #The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.
# #The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
# #Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
# #and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
# #homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
# #male population.  It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for
# #straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically
# #how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are.
#
# Possibly because gay/bi men are less likely to get married?

Marriage isn't a requirement for a couple staying together.

# What was the purpose of this post?  If it was to show a mindless obsession
# with statistics, an incredibly flawed system of reasoning, and a repellent
# hatemonger agenda, then the purpose was accomplished with panache.
#
# (a) Get a clue.  (b) Get a life.  (c) Get out of my face.  I'm not in yours.
#
# ----bi    Andrew D. Simchik					SCHNOPIA!

Yes you are.  When you and the rest of the homosexual community
pass laws to impose your moral codes on me, by requiring me to
hire, rent to, or otherwise associate with a homosexual against
my will, yes, you are in my face.  Until homosexuals stop trying
to impose their morals on me, I will be in your face about this.


If anybody is having problems following the thread be sure to ask the
origonal poster to rectify your misunderstanding.


I am looking for Super 8mm Projector with SOUNDS.
If anybody out there has one for sale, semd email with
the name of brand, condition of projector, and price for
sale to kimd@rpi.edu
(IT MUST HAVE SOUND CAPABILITY)


Kevin Todd is an Oiler and has been one for months. How closely do you follow
the Devils, anyway? Jeez....


Hi folks
Thanks to the ones that replied, however, my problem turned out
to be very simple.

In my .Xresources I had a space after XTerm*font:   10x20.
Removing this and xrdb fixed my problem.

Also, same symptom, was that some of my users did not have the
proper capitals for XTerm*font.

Thanks again


Could you post a description of ObjectBase, your chosen
product.


Who knows in this legal climate, but there is tremendous legal precendent
for forcibly quarantining TB patients in sanitariums.  100 yrs ago
it was done all the time.  It has been done sporadically all along
in patients who won't take their medicine.  If you have TB you
may find yourself under surveilence of the Public Health Department
and you may find they have the legal power to insist you make your
clinic visits.
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geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  it is shameful to surrender it too soon."


No rumour, IBM's clock tripling chip was seen in some trade show last
fall (COMDEX or something, I wasn't there). All you people who are
drooling after this chip do realize that it has no FPU, just like
486SX, that Evil Marketing Ploy(tm) from Intel, don't you? It has 16K
of internal cache, which probably is where the saved silicon real
estate went. Because of some contract, IBM is not allowed to sell its
486 chips to third parties, so these chips are unlikely to become
available in any non-IBM machines. Of course, nothing prevents other
companies from implementing a DX3/99, but nobody hasn't even come out
with a real 486DX (FPU and all) clone yet (although AMD soon will).


Avery was the #2 overall pick by the Braves, behind Mark Lewis (I think) in
1988.  John Smoltz came over to the Braves from the Tigers, but was developed
by the Braves.  Jeff Blauser isn't a bad player.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic


A.  Folks, do we have an FAQ on tinnitus yet?

B.  As a lo-o-o-ong time sufferer of tinnitus and as a neuroscientist
who has looked over the literature carefully I believe the following
are reasonable conclusions:

1. Millions of people suffer from chronic tinnitus.
2. The cause it not understood.
3. There is no accepted treatment that cures it.
4. Some experimental treatments may have helped some people a bit, but
there have be no reports--even anecdotal--of massive good results with
any of these experimental drugs.
5. Some people with chronic loud tinnitus use noise blocking to get to sleep.
6. Sudden onset loud tinnitus can be caused by injuries and sometimes
abates or goes away after a few months.
7. Aspirin is well known to exacerbate tinnitus in some people.
8. There is a national association of tinnitus sufferers in the US.
9. One usually gets used to it.  Especially when concentrating on
something else the tinnitus becomes unnoticed.
10.  Stress and lack of sleep make tinnitus more annoying, sometimes.
11.  I'm sure those of us who have it wish there was a cure, but there
is not.


Right. So all the cops will be buying antique muscle cars for chase cars;
otherwise the *police* cars will die too!

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                    | elephant or a bureaucracy, it helps to know what
George Patterson -  | part of it feels pain. Be very sure, though, that
                    | you want its full attention.
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   From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
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   >I remember hearing a few years back about a new therapy for hyperactivity
   >which involved aggressively eliminating artificial coloring and flavoring
   >from the diet.  The theory -- which was backed up by interesting anecdotal
   >results -- is that certain people are just way more sensitive to these
   >chemicals than other people.  I don't remember any connection being made
   >with seizures, but it certainly couldn't hurt to try an all-natural diet.

   Yeah, the "Feingold Diet" is a load of crap.  Children diagnosed with ADD
   who are placed on this diet show no improvement in their intellectual and
   social skills, which in fact continue to decline.  Of course, the parents
   who are enthusiastic about this approach lap it up at the expense of their
   children's development.  So much for the value of "interesting anecdotal
   results".  People will believe anything if they want to.

   --
   Steve Dyer
   dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer

Thanks for all the interest in this problem of mine. I don't think it
is a reaction to sugar or junk food per se since Kathryn has never shown
any signs of hyperactivity or changes in behavior in response to food.
She has always been very calm and dare I say, a neat, smart kid.

The fact that this happened while eating two sugar coated cereals made
by Kellog's makes me think she might be having an allergic reaction to
something in the coating or the cereals.  Of the four of us in our
immediate family, Kathryn shows the least signs of the hay fever, running
nose, itchy eyes, etc. but we have a lot of allergies in our family history
including some weird food allergies - nuts, mushrooms.

Anyway, our next trip is to an endocrinologist to check out the body
chemistry.  But so far, no more sugar coated cereals and no more seizures
either.  Every day that goes by without one makes me heave a sigh of
relief.  Thanks again.


Including all the ones who think that they countersteer all the way
through a corner??

Agreed!

This is really the only thing we disagree on. Maybe we should agree to
disagree?? I still think  that telling newbies to steer left to turn
to the right is unnecessarily confusing, when they'll do it anyway if they
just get on the bike and ride the damn thing.

Me too!!

:-)

Jeez, Ed, when you started talking about traction management policies I
thought you were making some weird reference to looking after railway
locomotives...

The official line here (though I do have my doubts about it) is that the
front brake is applied first, followed by the rear brake, the idea being
that you avoid locking up the rear after weight transfer takes place. In
practice I suspect most people do what you describe.

If you don't slide the tyre, you have no way of knowing whether you've
achieved maximum braking or not. I'm not suggesting that you should always
aim to brake as hard as you possibly can - but if you want to find the
limits of the machine, you have to go beyond them.


This is turning into a FAQ

Here is how to violate your Quadra 700 warranty and install your own
memory.

1)  Insert usual disclaimer here

2)  Remove the top lid of the machine. You will see the floppy disk and
    hard drive mounted in a plastic tower. Follow the usual anti-static
    precautions and of course make sure the machine is OFF when you do
    this. Unplug the wall and monitor power supply cords from the back
	of the mac.

3)  Remove the power supply by pulling the plastic interlocking tab on the
    tower forward and simultaneously pulling the power supply straight up.
    The tab is a piece of plastic from the left posterior aspect of the
    tower which extends downward to hook on to the power supply. You may
    also feel a horseshoe shaped piece at the right portion of the power
    supply. Leave that alone. The plastic tab from the tower is all you
    need release.

4)  Look at the rear of the tower assembly. You will see the flat ribbon
    SCSI connector to the hard drive, a power cable and a flat ribbon cable
    leading to the floppy drive. Disconnect all these from the motherboard.
    The hard drive power cable connector has a tab which must be squeezed
    to release it.

5)  Unplug the drive activity LED from its clear plastic mount

6)  Look down the posterior, cylindrical section of the plastic tower. A
    phillips head screw is at the base. Remove it, taking care not to drop
    it into the case. A bit of gummy glue on your screwdriver is helpful
    here.

7)  Remove the tower assembly by pulling medially the plastic tab on the
    right side of the tower. This tab prevents the tower from sliding
	posteriorly. Slide the entire tower assembly 1 cm posteriorly then
	lift the tower assembly straight up and out of the case.

8)  Congratulations, you have now gained access to your machine's SIMM
    slots.

9)  The six big slots are for VRAM. One usually must install all six to
    gain useful video modes. All SIMMS (RAM or VRAM)  installed with their
	chips facing the front of the motherboard.

    The four smaller sockets in front are for RAM SIMMS. Install SIMMS in
	sets of four into these sockets. Be sure you seat the SIMMS squarely
	and firmly into a fully upright position.

10) Reinstall the tower assembly by first placing the right wall of the
    tower against the right wall of the case with the tower assembly about
	1 cm posterior of its intended position. Lower the tower assembly into
	place while maintaining contact with the right wall of the case.
    Once fully down, slide the tower assembly anteriorly until it clicks
    into place.

11) Reconnect the motherboard ends of the cables. DONT'T FORGET THE FLOPPY
    DRIVE CABLE.

12) Replace the phillips head screw

13) Drop the power supply straight down into place until it clicks in.

14) Plug the hard drive activity light back into its clear plastic mount


hi folks
i have 2 hd first is an seagate 130mb
the second a cdc 340mb (with a future domain no ram)
i'd like to change my 2 controller ide & scsi and buy
a new one with ram (at least 1mb) that could controll
all of them
any companies?
how many $?
and is it possible via hw or via sw select how divide
the ram cache for 2 hd? (for example using dos that is
about all on one hd i'd like to reserve ram cache just to it)


What _is_ your problem?  Hite's post wasn't a flame.  It was a
correction of *your* error.

YOUR reply was a flame.

Not in the least.


Okay, I've received a whole lot of requests for the movie, so for
simplicity's sake I can't mail out any more than I've already received (as
of 16:30 EDT, Tuesday).  Maybe it'll pop up on a site sooner or later.


Even easier, my area supports 311.  Dial this and a recording recites your number.
Phone techs use it to verify an installed line.
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