About 18 months ago, I heard a report on NPR about a 900-number
"1-900-STO-PPER" or some such, for placing untraceable calls.
You call them, and on "bong" tone dial the number you want to
call; they told the NPR interviewer that nothing short of a
court order (which they'd fight) would make them release their
records.

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator;
 the lab net pretends to work"


That's a standby unit not a UPS, otherwise there would be no interuption.
Many standby units are labled as UPS's though.
 			Morgan Bullard mb4008@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
				   or  mjbb@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu


Politicians want to eliminate private ownership of guns before the
general public starts violently resisting the tax increases needed
to fund the federal government as an ever higher percentage of tax
revenue goes to pay interest on the national debt (currently 57 cents
out of every tax dollar collected and rising).

--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>


this week's autoweek talks about how wagons are getting back in vogue.
i wouldn't mind an audi s4 wagon (great stealth value) but you'll
never catch me dead in a minivan!


IDE does not do DMA.  This is because it's like te PC AT hard disk
interface.  The controller moves a sector to some buffer memory on the
controller card, then the CPU moves the data from the buffer to main
memory where it's needed.  If IDE doesn't work this way, then it's not
compatible.

Heck, if IDE used DMA, then you'd hear all kinds of complaints about
ISA bus systems with more than 16M RAM not working with their IDE
drives.  16M is the DMA addressing limit of the ISA bus, and if IDE
did DMA there would be trouble.

(BTW, there are DMA-enabling signals in the IDE cable spec, but the
last report I heard was that they are never implemented, because it
would require a different kind of IDE adapter and different drivers.)


They were, and even if Washington might consider Patty a bust, I'd rework
that trade in a minute.  Druce has been a complete and utter bust here,
only 5 goals.


As a Philly fan as as a Penna. baseball fan, I'm anxious to see the
Penna. series.  Anyone know when it starts and where the first games
will be played?

This is (I think) always good baseball (to me); and the Pirates are
also off to a good start.


Does anybody have an algorithm for "flattening" out a globe, or any other
parametric surface, that is definied parametrically.
That is, I would like to take a sheet of paper and a knife and to be
able to calculate how I must cut in the paper so I can fold it to a
globe (or any other object).


Update on location!!

Directory should be:
public/virtual-worlds!!
^^^^^^

Sorry! :-)


   We publish plenty kiddo,you just have to look.
 -----------------------------------------------------------------
 .sig files are like strings ... every yo-yo's got one.


Car and Driver rated the 325is (1988) at 7.2 0-60 , 1/4 at 15.2 (after 30k miles) last time I checked 8#}.

Automobile magazine rated new 325is 1/4 mile@16.2.

Gee , aint quotiin funner than the dickens!

Sounds like we need a race.  I'll let you have the newer version.  Can someone out there lend me a 1988 325is for a day 8-].  I wont hurt it, I promise.


Also, Alomar got a FAR greater boost from his home park than Baerga did from
his. And "six or seven home runs"? Hmm.

So, if you wanted to pick a second baseman to play in Toronto, you'd take
Alomar. Anywhere else, and you'd probably take Baerga.

Mike


Subject says it  all.  Please email soon.
skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au


	Checker Motors went out of business in 1982.  It's hard to get
old Checkers that are worth restoring, since almost every one was
a fleet vehicle that was driven into the ground.  If you can get a
body in decent shape the mechanicals should all be available _somewhere_ -
Checker used whatever parts were around.  For instance, I had a Chevy
straight six and a GMC Truck radiator and a Ford rear in mine.

	Actually, you want a Checker Special if you can find one.


Well, I'm back from Tokyo, so here are the standings after the April 13 update.

	- Andrew

USENET Hockey Draft Standings
Week 27

Posn	Team				Pts	Proj	Cash	Last Posn

1.	Dave Wessels                    1536	1572.8	1.9	(1)
2.	Bob Hill                        1481	1538.1	24.0	(3)
3.	Gilles Carmel                   1492	1529.9	1.0	(2)
4.	Seppo Kemppainen                1430	1514.0	47.2	(5)
5.	The Awesome Oilers              1412	1504.4	68.6	(4)
6.	Hillside Raiders                1456	1495.2	7.0	(7)
7.	Mak "The Knife" Paranjape       1424	1491.7	31.0	(6)
8.	Jan Stein                       1412	1483.2	35.3	(8)
9.	this years model                1428	1479.3	17.6	(10)
10.	Rangers Of Destiny              1401	1475.9	42.0	(9)
	Tapio Repo                      1422	1475.9	19.6	(11)
12.	FRANK'S BIG FISH                1398	1453.9	22.0	(12)
13.	The Underachievers              1409	1452.9	10.1	(13)
14.	On Thin Ice                     1380	1440.9	32.3	(14)
15.	Go Flames                       1367	1438.1	40.3	(17)
16.	littlest giants                 1370	1437.7	35.6	(16)
17.	Mopar Muscle Men                1400	1431.4	3.7	(18)
18.	Lindros Losers                  1396	1431.2	1.7	(15)
19.	DIE Penguin Bandwaggoners       1357	1411.0	20.2	(19)
20.	Samuel Lau (Calgary, Alberta)   1360	1396.3	4.9	(20)
21.	Boomer's Boys                   1341	1371.6	0.2	(23)
22.	General Accounting Office       1316	1369.4	20.9	(21)
23.	Delaware Wombats                1341	1367.5	1.3	(24)
24.	Migods Menschen                 1307	1366.8	31.6	(22)
25.	Wellsy's Buttheads DEC NH       1280	1362.3	52.6	(25)
26.	Rocky Mountain High             1325	1357.2	1.8	(26)
27.	Fife Flyers                     1283	1348.4	31.4	(27)
28.	Gerald Olchowy                  1275	1340.2	33.7	(28)
29.	Dave Snell                      1281	1335.7	25.0	(59)
30.	Fluide Glacial                  1291	1333.7	18.0	(29)
31.	Gaoler                          1279	1321.5	11.2	(30)
32.	SmegHeads                       1289	1315.8	0.3	(31)
33.	The Young And The Skateless     1235	1305.6	42.9	(32)
34.	Sam & His Dogs                  1262	1297.3	11.6	(34)
35.	Neural Netters                  1251	1294.2	11.3	(35)
36.	Youngbucs                       1206	1288.1	101.7	(36)
37.	Artic Storm                     1220	1287.7	39.3	(33)
38.	Soft Swedes                     1205	1281.5	46.9	(37)
39.	Jeff Horvath                    1239	1268.6	5.6	(38)
40.	Milton Keynes Kings             1229	1262.5	2.8	(40)
41.	Hamster from Hoboken            1223	1257.0	8.7	(41)
	Kuehn Crushers                  1185	1257.0	45.1	(45)
43.	Le Fleur de Lys                 1202	1256.9	25.3	(42)
44.	Yan The Man Loke                1225	1255.5	0.7	(39)
45.	Legion of Hoth                  1208	1251.1	15.8	(48)
46.	Simmonac                        1169	1249.4	87.6	(44)
47.	The Finnish Force               1192	1245.1	22.5	(46)
48.	ice legion                      1193	1244.8	28.8	(43)
49.	Streaks                         1161	1242.8	54.8	(47)
50.	Brian Bergman                   1190	1241.0	23.3	(55)
51.	Goaldingers                     1190	1239.3	22.0	(49)
52.	T C OverAchievers               1209	1237.0	2.9	(52)
53.	Grant Marven                    1196	1231.2	2.9	(50)
54.	Bozrah Bruins                   1155	1223.9	45.2	(54)
55.	Real Bad Toe Jam                1150	1223.4	48.9	(62)
56.	Houdini's Magicians             1181	1222.4	18.3	(61)
57.	Skriko Wolves                   1186	1221.5	5.4	(53)
58.	rec.sport.hockey choices        1196	1221.1	1.3	(63)
59.	buffalo soldiers                1142	1220.3	62.1	(65)
60.	bemybaby                        1140	1219.9	54.2	(51)
61.	LIPPE                           1179	1215.2	13.9	(56)
62.	Randy Coulman                   1185	1214.8	5.2	(57)
63.	LAMP LIGHTERS                   1180	1211.6	5.9	(58)
64.	Steven And Mark Dream Team      1174	1206.2	3.1	(60)
65.	Indianapolis Bennies            1160	1205.4	20.8	(66)
66.	Tom                             1160	1202.8	13.1	(68)
67.	Bloom County All Stars          1164	1198.8	4.3	(67)
68.	Bruins                          1174	1198.5	0.1	(72)
69.	Phil and Kev's Karma Dudes      1172	1198.0	0.8	(69)
70.	smithw                          1146	1194.5	21.0	(73)
71.	Iowa Hockeyes                   1149	1193.8	16.3	(64)
72.	Doug Bowles                     1146	1190.6	20.0	(71)
73.	The Great Pumpkin               1108	1187.3	54.4	(74)
74.	NON!                            1145	1186.4	16.4	(77)
75.	shooting seamen                 1161	1183.3	0.1	(75)
76.	Frank Worthless                 1149	1182.7	6.3	(76)
77.	AIK Exiles                      1116	1179.8	34.5	(70)
78.	Invisible Inc                   1156	1177.4	1.1	(78)
79.	Brad Gibson                     1126	1176.9	27.2	(79)
80.	Cougarmania                     1114	1165.7	24.8	(88)
81.	Kortelaisen Kovat               1086	1165.2	164.1	(85)
82.	PLP Fools                       1135	1163.1	0.1	(81)
83.	David Wong                      1082	1161.6	66.1	(84)
84.	John Zupancic                   1102	1160.7	27.1	(82)
85.	garryola                        1121	1159.4	9.7	(89)
86.	Gary Bergman Fan Club           1128	1157.6	5.1	(93)
87.	Staffan Axelsson                1120	1157.1	15.1	(83)
88.	Chubby Checkers                 1110	1156.2	16.3	(80)
89.	Derrill's Dastardly Dozen       1109	1155.0	22.1	(90)
90.	Chocolate Rockets               1121	1150.7	2.5	(86)
91.	Ken DeCruyenaere                1113	1147.9	5.0	(87)
92.	Fisher Dirtbags                 1119	1147.4	0.7	(94)
93.	KODIAKS                         1122	1146.0	1.3	(95)
94.	No Namers                       1067	1145.8	58.2	(91)
95.	The Campi Machine               1061	1145.2	65.3	(92)
96.	BSC Oranienburg                 1115	1142.4	7.1	(98)
97.	The Kamucks                     1064	1141.5	76.1	(97)
98.	Arsenal Maple Leafs             1108	1138.4	3.8	(96)
99.	Ellis Islanders                 1096	1128.0	7.6	(100)
100.	Mombasa Mosquitos               1090	1122.4	6.1	(101)
101.	Zachmans Wingers                1051	1122.1	49.8	(103)
102.	Edelweiss                       1091	1121.0	2.9	(102)
103.	Bjoern Leaguen                  1039	1118.5	61.4	(112)
104.	Dirty White Socks               1050	1116.5	43.4	(105)
105.	Wormtown Woosbags               1039	1116.1	72.6	(104)
106.	Neil Younger                    1036	1115.0	77.7	(114)
107.	Hurricane Andrew                1082	1114.8	7.6	(106)
108.	King Suke                       1089	1114.5	0.1	(110)
109.	Larry                           1078	1114.3	11.8	(107)
110.	Het Schot Is Hard               1076	1113.6	18.1	(115)
111.	VoteNoOct26                     1056	1112.6	31.8	(108)
112.	Bloodgamers                     1046	1111.6	42.1	(99)
	Bruce's Rented Mules            1077	1111.6	11.9	(108)
114.	Teem Kanada                     1075	1110.6	16.0	(111)
115.	Frank's Follies                 1063	1106.5	24.2	(113)
116.	Oklahoma Stormchasers           1053	1103.6	28.3	(121)
117.	SPUDS                           1068	1103.4	12.6	(119)
118.	Pond Slime                      1081	1102.3	0.7	(117)
119.	PSV Dartmouth                   1071	1101.4	7.1	(116)
120.	Mark Sanders                    1065	1099.2	11.1	(120)
121.	Blue Talon                      1062	1096.5	13.3	(126)
122.	Stanford Ice Hawks              1043	1094.7	28.2	(118)
123.	Aye Carumba!!!                  1063	1089.6	3.9	(124)
124.	Kokudo Keikaku Bunnies          1021	1088.0	40.3	(125)
125.	Timo Ojala                      1059	1085.7	0.3	(122)
126.	Haral                           1057	1085.3	7.3	(128)
127.	Cluster Buster                  1048	1083.4	7.6	(136)
128.	Dirty Rotten Puckers            1054	1082.7	1.2	(135)
129.	Apricot Fuzzfaces               1037	1081.1	23.3	(127)
130.	The Lost Poots                  1048	1080.5	6.7	(132)
131.	Nesbitt                         1058	1078.6	1.1	(123)
132.	Gary Bill Pens Dynasty          1035	1077.8	19.6	(144)
133.	garys team                      1035	1076.2	17.1	(129)
134.	Arctic Circles                  1012	1074.1	37.6	(131)
135.	Seattle PFTB                    1028	1074.0	22.9	(132)
136.	Late Night with David Letterman 1049	1073.7	0.0	(130)
137.	Le Groupe MI                    1020	1073.2	30.2	(141)
138.	GO BRUINS                       1046	1072.7	6.2	(140)
139.	Scott Glenn                     1038	1069.7	10.2	(138)
140.	Flying Kiwis                    1035	1068.7	9.1	(136)
141.	team gold                       1029	1067.4	16.7	(142)
142.	Closet Boy's Boys               995	1064.6	48.0	(143)
143.	Wild Hearted Sons               1036	1064.4	4.9	(153)
144.	boutch 92-93                    1023	1063.2	20.0	(134)
145.	Andy Y F WONG                   1019	1062.6	21.5	(147)
	Wembley LostWeekenders          1040	1062.6	0.3	(152)
147.	McKees Rocks Rockers            1036	1062.4	5.1	(144)
148.	Book 'em Danno's Bushbabies     1032	1062.1	10.5	(163)
149.	Dree Hobbs                      1020	1060.2	13.4	(139)
150.	GO HABS GO                      1027	1058.1	8.0	(151)
151.	Goddess Of Fermentation         1005	1057.8	30.2	(156)
152.	Tim Rogers                      1024	1056.8	8.1	(146)
153.	convex stars                    1026	1055.9	5.6	(160)
154.	Einstein's Rock Band            1033	1055.7	0.0	(154)
155.	Princeton Canucks               979	1055.5	124.2	(150)
156.	Tap                             1028	1055.2	0.5	(155)
157.	Hubert's Hockey Homeboys        1030	1053.9	0.6	(163)
	Buttered Waffles                981	1053.9	46.0	(148)
159.	MY TEAM                         977	1052.0	174.8	(162)
160.	Bob's Blues                     980	1050.9	46.8	(149)
161.	furleys furies                  1021	1046.6	3.6	(159)
162.	HUNTERS & COLLECTORS            982	1045.9	42.4	(157)
	Les Nordiques                   974	1045.9	60.4	(161)
164.	Satan's Choice                  1012	1045.3	14.5	(173)
165.	Dr Joel Fleishman               1020	1043.9	3.7	(158)
166.	Sundogs                         1017	1040.9	0.4	(166)
167.	Pierre Mailhot                  1017	1039.9	2.6	(175)
168.	Slap Shot Marco                 966	1037.8	51.8	(168)
169.	San Jose Mahi Mahi              989	1037.6	31.8	(178)
170.	The Leafs Rule!!!!              990	1037.3	25.8	(174)
171.	Jeff Nimeroff                   963	1036.5	48.8	(167)
172.	Stimpy ADG Zeta                 996	1035.2	21.0	(178)
173.	The Dreamers                    958	1034.6	63.7	(170)
174.	East City Jokers                956	1033.7	69.1	(171)
175.	Daryl Turner                    1008	1033.1	2.4	(169)
176.	riding the pine                 988	1031.8	20.7	(165)
177.	Flowers                         957	1030.4	113.6	(172)
178.	Darse Billings                  975	1029.3	34.7	(185)
179.	Chappel's Chumps                984	1027.9	24.0	(186)
180.	LANA Inc                        982	1027.2	27.3	(182)
181.	Spinal Tap                      963	1026.6	41.4	(177)
182.	JimParker                       949	1025.9	179.0	(187)
183.	Enforcers                       980	1023.9	28.1	(189)
184.	Jeff Bachovchin                 949	1020.7	46.7	(180)
	Big Bad Bruins                  981	1020.7	18.5	(183)
186.	Mike Mac Cormack Sydney NS CAN  944	1020.6	107.2	(184)
187.	Bulldogs                        973	1019.7	23.4	(181)
188.	voyageurs                       996	1017.2	2.7	(176)
189.	Absolut Lehigh                  984	1015.4	8.9	(190)
190.	Republican Dirty Tricksters     930	1010.4	66.0	(188)
191.	Henry's Bar B Q                 990	1007.7	0.7	(197)
192.	Dr.D And The S.O.D.             968	1007.3	17.1	(192)
193.	Bunch of Misfits                957	1006.9	23.8	(193)
194.	Robyns Team                     955	1005.5	30.0	(198)
195.	Yellow Plague                   969	1003.4	14.2	(191)
196.	Ninja Turtles                   982	1003.0	1.3	(194)
197.	Team Melville                   930	999.1	46.9	(199)
198.	Acadien                         962	998.6	18.3	(201)
199.	DARMAN'S Dragons                950	998.4	28.3	(209)
200.	Kuta Papercuts                  961	998.2	18.5	(207)
201.	Great Expectations              972	998.0	2.3	(195)
202.	Cobra's Killers                 942	996.4	31.7	(205)
203.	Cherry Bombers                  971	995.6	1.2	(196)
204.	Jayson's Kinky Pucks            943	989.9	26.9	(204)
205.	Killer Apes                     947	989.7	24.3	(208)
206.	Kaufbeuren Icebreakers          929	989.1	37.6	(202)
207.	Umpire 4 life                   950	987.8	11.1	(200)
208.	Roger Smith                     927	987.0	39.6	(210)
209.	Firebirds                       960	983.8	3.9	(203)
210.	Those 1st few weeks hurt!       905	982.9	55.9	(211)
211.	IKEA Wholesale                  958	982.0	1.7	(213)
212.	Outlaws                         903	975.6	164.9	(206)
213.	The 200 Club                    944	969.4	6.8	(219)
214.	Thundering Herd                 887	966.7	163.6	(212)
215.	Believe it or dont              926	966.6	21.1	(214)
216.	Creeping Death                  924	965.7	21.3	(217)
217.	Knee Injuries                   932	965.6	10.4	(218)
218.	Crazy Euros                     927	965.3	17.9	(220)
219.	Frack Attack                    918	965.0	27.3	(221)
	Todd's Turkeys                  942	965.0	1.9	(222)
221.	Ryan's Renegades                893	961.7	50.9	(223)
222.	fred mckim                      889	961.5	93.0	(215)
223.	400 Hurricane                   909	960.4	32.1	(216)
224.	pig vomit                       936	958.3	1.3	(225)
225.	Ice Strykers                    882	955.4	105.4	(226)
226.	Fighting Geordies               882	953.7	141.6	(227)
227.	CDN Stuck in Alabama            925	951.6	10.3	(228)
228.	dayton bomber                   932	951.5	0.0	(236)
229.	Cafall and Crew                 892	948.2	38.3	(224)
230.	Chris of Death                  872	945.0	83.6	(232)
231.	Swillbellies                    902	941.9	18.7	(230)
232.	Banko's Beer Rangers            913	940.4	4.2	(233)
	Zipper Heads                    892	940.4	33.9	(237)
234.	NY Flames                       907	938.8	7.8	(234)
235.	Ship's Way                      913	938.7	8.7	(229)
236.	Laubsters II                    861	937.6	201.6	(235)
237.	Oz                              878	934.1	35.0	(231)
238.	Joliet Inmates                  872	933.5	45.8	(239)
239.	Ninja Bunnies                   858	925.9	44.9	(238)
240.	Great Scott                     853	924.6	73.3	(242)
241.	Widefield White Wolves          861	919.7	36.9	(240)
242.	The Ice Holes                   890	912.7	2.7	(246)
243.	SANDY'S SABRES                  886	910.8	4.7	(244)
244.	Daves Team                      858	910.7	32.0	(241)
245.	South Carolina Tiger Paws       835	909.0	78.4	(243)
246.	Florida Tech Burgh Team         844	908.9	49.3	(245)
247.	Leos Blue Chips                 874	902.5	10.4	(247)
248.	For xtc                         874	900.0	8.2	(248)
249.	roadrunners                     861	899.7	18.5	(249)
250.	Mudville Kings                  851	897.8	27.6	(250)
251.	New Jersey Rob                  876	894.2	0.7	(253)
252.	Redliners                       856	893.3	15.9	(251)
253.	Pat Phillips                    859	887.6	10.1	(252)
254.	Stewart Clamen                  851	869.6	1.6	(254)
255.	Demon Spawn                     820	866.1	25.0	(255)
256.	Sunnyvale Storm                 804	818.4	0.2	(256)
257.	Allez les Blues                 738	809.1	476.9	(257)
258.	Up For Sale Hockey Club         749	789.4	23.0	(258)
259.	Petes Picks                     721	788.0	168.5	(259)
260.	RINACO                          709	781.8	114.0	(260)
261.	Brenz Revenge                   691	713.3	4.0	(261)
262.	Dinamo Riga                     595	663.9	571.6	(262)
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Andrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com
HP IDACOM Telecom Operation     | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253


Very interesting, but I also believe that you have presented a
misleading argument.  Christianity is not the cause of the massacres
and horrific injustices that you relate, rather they are the fault
of people who misunderstand Jesus Christ's message, and modify
it to suit their own beliefs and aims, rather than alter their
ambitions to be more in line with those presented as desirable in
the New Testament.  With every truthful and good message that
carries authority or implied authority, comes the inevitable
fact that some (many?) people will understand it in a distorted
way, with inevitable consequences.

The Bible's message is that we are to love all people, and
that all people are redeemable.  It preaches a message of
repentance, and of giving.  Unfortunately, all people have
deceitful hearts, and are capable of turning this message
around and contorting it in sometimes unbelievable ways.
This is also a fundamental Christian doctrine.

One of the problems is that you look at the world through
the eyes of Western history.  I think that you will find
many, many cases of massacres that were instigated by
people who never claimed they were Christian.  I am not saying
this to justify the massacres that were, but I am merely
pointing you to a tendency which is present in humans already.

Consider the world without Christianity.  I doubt that we
would have the same freedoms in the countries in which we
live, if it wasn't for the peaceful doctrines of Jesus Christ.
Perhaps we would even be confronted by a very harsh religion
(I won't name any here, though one comes to mind) which
would not even allow us the freedom of speech to debate such
subjects.

Point the blame at inherent human tendencies of thirst for
power, greed and hatred.  Please don't point the blame at
a message which preaches fundamental giving and denial, in
love for others.

Yours in Christ,

Andrew McVeigh

p.s. I believe that a line of questioning like you presented
is, strangely enough, compatible with becoming a Christian.
Certainly Christianity encourages one to question the behaviour
of the world, and especially Christians.  I praise God for
Jesus Christ, and the fact that we can doubt our beliefs
and still come back to God and be forgiven, time and time
again.

--
*****


Wow, you're quicker to point out heresy than the Church in the
Middle ages. Seriously though, even the Sheiks at Al-Azhar don't
claim that the Shi'ites are heretics. Most of the accusations
and fabrications about Shi'ites come out of Saudi Arabia from the
Wahabis. For that matter you should read the original works of
the Sunni Imams (Imams of the four madhabs). The teacher of
at least two of them was Imam Jafar Sadiq (the sixth Imam of the
Shi'ites).


...

Another April 1 posting.  Ahhh.


Two-volume soft-cover repair manuals
for all models of '91 Toyota Celicas.
(Probably good for '92 models as well.)
Like new condition.
These are the manuals used by the
Toyota dealers' mechanics - they normally
cost over $80 new.

$50 OBO


	[...deleted...]

Unfortunately, I think you've got it figured pretty well.  I also ask
myself the question "Why did they plan for so many months.  Why was
this so important to them?  What was the government really up to?
Why did they seal the warrant?  Were they after Koresh or were they after
the first and second amendments, among others?


I got just this far.   What do you mean by "goal"?    I hope you
don't mean to imply that evolution has a conscious "goal".


  How about a Geeky temporary tatoo?  I mean, why should the
  RUBs be exempt from a little razzing.


There are many organisms, viral, bacterial, and fungal, which can
cause meningitits, and the course of these infections varies
widely. The causes of bacterial meningitis vary with age: in adults
pneumococcus (the same organism which causes pneumococcal pneumonia)
is the most common cause, while in children Hemophilus influenzae
is the most common cause.

What you are describing is meningitis from Neisseria meningitidis,
which is the second most common cause of bacterial meningitis in
both groups, but with lower incidence in infants. This organism
is also called the "meningococcus", and is the source of the
common epidemics of meningitis that occur and are popularized in
the press. Without prompt treatment (and even WITH it in some cases),
the organism typically causes death within a day.

This organism, feared as it is, is actually grown from the throats
of many normal adults. It can get to the meninges by different
ways, but blood borne spread is probably the usual case.

Rifampin (an oral antibiotic) is often given to family and contacts
of a case of meningococcal meningitis, by the way.

Sorry, but I don't have time for a more detailed reply. Meningitis
is a huge topic, and sci.med can't do it justice.


Hamza answers one of my articles:

[TO] If indeed Israeli soldiers killed a "Hamas Mujahid" with an anti-tank
[TO] missile then I'm almost sure that the "terrorist zionists" would not
[TO] have been able to cut up a body which was probably desintegrated by the
[TO] missile.

[Hamza] maybe the missile didn't hit directly such that his body
[Hamza] gets "desintegrated."  of course, destroying 10 houses to
[Hamza] kill someone is not a surgical operation, or is it?

Well done Hamza. You edited my answer to Anas Omran, took everything out
of context and then replied to it the way you wanted.
Now I really understand why the peace process is not making any progress.

You guys ain't listening, just babbling away to your same old rhetoric.


Lets hear it for Dan Goldin...now if he can only convince the rest of
our federal government that the space program is a worth while
investment!

I hope that I will live to see the day we walk on Mars, but
we need to address the technical hurdles first!  If there's sufficient
interest, maybe we should consider starting a sci.space group
devoted to the technical analysis of long-duration human spaceflight.
Most of you regulars know that I'm interested in starting this analysis
as soon as possible.


I bought the diamond stealth 24 a few months ago.  it seems to be a
great card especially with my multimedia presentations.  It runs graphics
and animation as well as some near full motion video very well.  The only
thing I can tell that it lacks is speed above 256 colors.  Its qualit in
between 256 and 16.7 million collors un unreal but you definitly
compromise speed.  It seems to be a great card for graphics and it comes
with some great software, but Im not so sure about the excelerator
part.  I used to own a paridise and it doesnt seem to be much faster
than that.  One thing I do like is that it loads its own vesa driver
from ROM at startup, (I think) because I have never had to load it for
links386 or any other programs that require special VESA drivers at
startup.

gromi a16pd

                                       HINTMATT@BA.BA.ISU.EDU


<<Posting deleted.  The moderator replies:

That is generally accuate, but contains one serious error.  We Catholics
do believe that God's revealed truth that is not explicitly recorded in
the Bible can be and is passed on through the Tradition of the Church.
It should be noted that the Tradition of the Church, otherwise known as
Sacred Tradition, is not the same as ordinary human traditions.
However, we do not believe that additional truth will be revealed to
the Church.  Public revelation, which is the basis of Catholic doctrine,
ended with the death of St. John, the last Apostle.  Nothing new can
be added.  Theologians study this revelation and can draw out implications
that were not recognized previously, so that the Council of Nicea could
define statements about the theology of the Trinity and the Incarnation
that were not explicitly stated in the Bible and had been disputed
before the council, but there was no new revelation at Nicea or at
any subsequent council.

Cardinal Newman's _An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine_,
written while he was still an Anglican, is an excellent discussion of
of this point.  It was recently reprinted as a Doubleday Image Books
paperback with some related shorter works under the title _Conscience,
Consensus, and the Development of Doctrine_.
-------
Marty Helgesen
Bitnet: mnhcc@cunyvm   Internet: mnhcc@cunyvm.cuny.edu


Not to mention that the G-men believed the children didn't have gas masks.

But that was not, with respect to the children, the point of the gassing.
The feds *knew* that the children's health would be in danger and proceeded
under the assumption that the "motherly instinct" of the Davidian women
would remove them from harm's way. I busted a gut on that one.

Someone else on the net observed that the administration's appeal to a
woman's "motherly instinct" would never wash with feminists and liberals
if a republican were in the White House. I say that such an justification
could *only* come from a feminist mindset.

BTW - I'd read in the paper yesterday that the type of gas used was CS2.
The paper didn't provide any specifics about it.


Hi,
        I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not Logitech had
Windows TWAIN drivers for the Scanman. If so, are the drivers on the
net somewhere? My Scanman is the model one down from the Scanman 256.

        Thanks in advance.

                                Ross Barclay


Dear Reader,

I'am searching for an implementation of a polygon reduction algorithm
for marching cubes surfaces. I think the best one is the reduction algorithm
from Schroeder et al., SIGGRAPH '92. So, is there any implementation of this
algorithm, it would be very nice if you could leave it to me.

Also I'am looking for a fast !!! connectivity
test for marching cubes surfaces.

Any help or hints will be very useful.
Thanks a lot


[h] 	The Armenians in Nagarno-Karabagh are simply DEFENDING their RIGHTS
[h]        to keep their homeland and it is the AZERIS that are INVADING their
[h]        territorium...

[HE]	Homeland? First Nagarno-Karabagh was Armenians homeland today
[HE]	Fizuli, Lacin and several villages (in Azerbadjan)
[HE]	are their homeland. Can't you see the
[HE]	the  "Great Armenia" dream in this?

Greater Armenia would stretch from Karabakh, to the Black Sea, to the
Mediterranean, so if you use the term "Greater Armenia" use it with care.

[HE]    With facist methods like
[HE]	killing, raping and bombing villages. The last move was the
[HE]	blast of a truck with 60 kurdish refugees, trying to
[HE]	escape the from Lacin, a city that was "given" to the Kurds
[HE]	by the Armenians.

It has always been up to the Azeris to end their announced winning of Karabakh
by removing the Armenians! When the president of Azerbaijan, Elchibey, came to
power last year, he announced he would be be "swimming in Lake Sevan [in
Armeniaxn] by July". Well, he was wrong! If Elchibey is going to shell the
Armenians of Karabakh from Aghdam, his people will pay the price! If Elchibey
is going to shell Karabakh from Fizuli his people will pay the price! If
Elchibey thinks he can get away with bombing Armenia from the hills of
Kelbajar, his people will pay the price.

It also seems other non-Azeri minorities in Azerbaijan have understood they
are next in line in this process of forced Azerification or deportation. Just
look at the situation with the Lezgians.

About the Kurds...what Kurds! According to the Azerbaijani government, there
are no Kurds in Azerbaijan. Can't they make up their minds? Oh I see, there
are only Kurds when the Azeris want them to be Kurds! And anyway, this "60
Kurd refugee" story, as have other stories, are simple fabrications sourced in
Baku, modified in Ankara. Other examples of this are Armenia has no border
with Iran, and the ridiculous story of the "intercepting" of Armenian military
conversations as appeared in the New York Times supposedly translated by
somebody unknown, from Armenian into Azeri Turkish, submitted by an unnamed
"special correspondent" to the NY Times from Baku. Real accurate!

[h]       However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
[h]       to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
[h]       that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
[h]       (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
[h]

No, Henrik, these Turkish planes should be shot down with no questions asked.

[HE]	Don't speak about things you don't know: 8 American Cargo planes
[HE]	were heading to Armenia. When the Turkish authorities
[HE]	announced that they were going to search these cargo
[HE]	planes 3 of these planes returned to it's base in Germany.
[HE]	5 of these planes were searched in Turkey. The content of
[HE]	of the other 3 planes? Not hard to guess, is it? It was sure not
[HE]	humanitarian aid.....

Your "facts" in error. Shipments of all kinds that have transversed Turkey
have been either searched, re-routed or confiscated. Some American planes
were searched, others were re-routed, others were untouched. Rail shipments
were held up last fall and last winter from entering Armenian from Turkey
for the purpose of aiding in the economic collapse of Armenia. Wheat was
confiscated, other shipments were exchanged with "crap" and dirt, then
shipped to Armenia. U.S. planes don't have to use Turkish air bases. The U.S.
uses these bases to bomb Iraq. Anyway, U.S. planes can fly over Georgia, which
they have found is easier than to endure unnecessary expressions of Turkish
chauvinism through searches of cargo which to this day have not revealed
anything other than a paranoid Turkish military.

[HE]	Search Turkish planes? You don't know what you are talking about.
[HE]	since it's content is announced to be weapons?

Well, big mouth Ozal said military weapons are being provided to Azerbaijan
from Turkey, yet Demirel and others say no. No wonder you are so confused!

[HE]	Turkey's government has announced that it's giving weapons
[HE]	to Azerbadjan since Armenia started to attack Azerbadjan
[HE]	it self, not the Karabag province. So why search a plane for weapons
[HE]	since it's content is announced to be weapons?

You are correct, all Turkish planes should be simply shot down! Nice, slow
moving air transports!


	100% Israeli citizens.  The ethnic composition depends on what
you mean by formed.  What the UN deeded to Israel?  What it won in war?

	Were there anti-trust laws in place in mandatory Palestine?
Since the answer is no, you're argument, while interestingly
constructed, is irrelevant.  I will however, respond to a few points
you assert in the course of talking about anti-trust laws.

	And those fleeing Arab lands, where Jews were second class
citizens.

	Jews often paid far more than fair market value for the land
they bought.

	You know, Sam, when people start talking about an
International Jewish conspiracy, its really begins to sound like
anti-Semitic bull.

	The reason there is no conspiracy here is quite simple.
Zionists made no bones about what was going on.  There were
conferences, publications, etc, all talking about creating a National
home for the Jews.

[...]

	Because you've never heard of it, its dead?  The fact is, you
claimed Israel had to give arabs rights because of (non-existant)
International aid.  Then you see that that argument has a hole you
could drive a truck through, and again assert that Israel is only
democratic within the (unexplained) constraints of one ethnic group.
The problem with that argument is that Arabs are allowed to vote for
whoever they please.  So, please tell me, Sam, what constraints are
there on Israeli democracy that don't exist in other democratic
states?

	I've never heard anything about the Khazakistani arab
population.  Does that mean that they have no history or roots?  When
I was at Ben Gurion university in Israel, one of my neighbors was an
Israeli arab.  He wasn't really all that different from my other
neighbors.  Does that make him dead or oppressed?

	How recent is recent?  I can probably build a case for a
Jewish Gaza city.  It would be pretty silly, but I could do it.  I'm
arguing not that Jerusalem is Jewish, but that land has no ethnicity.

Adam

Adam Shostack 				       adam@das.harvard.edu


For the purpose of a contest, I'd bet some things could be cut.  Like fuel
for re-entry, any kind of heat shielding, etc., etc.  Even still, if the
contest participants had to fund DC-1 development, it probably wouldn't be
worth it to develop DC-1 (just for the contest).  Just give me the cheapest
heaviest lift man rated (or at least under 6 or so Gs) booster...  If I
don't have to pay for DC-1 development, great!, I'll use it.

But back to the contest goals, there was a recent article in AW&ST about a
low cost (it's all relative...) manned return to the moon.  A General
Dynamics scheme involving a Titan IV & Shuttle to lift a Centaur upper
stage, LEV, and crew capsule.  The mission consists of delivering two
unmanned payloads to the lunar surface, followed by a manned mission.
Total cost:  US was $10-$13 billion.  Joint ESA(?)/NASA project was $6-$9
billion for the US share.

I didn't find a mention of how long the crew could stay, but I'd bet that
its  around 30 days.  And the total payload delivered was about 30 metric
tonnes.  So if you ignore the scientific payload, hitch a ride in the crew
habitation module (no return trip...), and toss in a few more tonnes for
the additional consumables to last another 11 months, then you *might* be
able to get a year visit out of 15 tonnes (and in case its not obvious,
that's a wild ass guess).  A pretty boring visit, since every trip outdoors
eats up a bit of LOX.  And I'm not certain if a home brewed (or
college-brewed) life support system could last a year.  But let's round
this up to 19.4 tonnes (convient, since the GD plan talks about 9.7 ton
payloads delivered to the lunar surface.  This adds up to two Centaurs, two
LEVs, two Shuttle flights... All to put a single man on the moon for a
year.   Hmmm.  Not really practical.  Anyone got a cheaper/better way of
delivering 15-20 tonnes to the lunar surface within the decade?  Anyone
have a more precise guess about how much a year's supply of consumables and
equipment would weigh?

And I was wondering about the GD LEV.  Is it reusable?  Or is it discarded
to burn up on return to LEO?  If its not discarded, could it be refueled?
Henry: Do you know anything about the GD LEV?  I noted that it uses RL-10
engines.  Aren't they reusable/restartable?  Would a LEV fit in a DC-1?
I've forgotten (if I ever knew) what the cargo bay dimensions are for the
DC-1.

All in all, I'm not certain that the single goal/prize of staying on the
moon for a year is wise and/or useful.  How about:  A prize for the first
non-government sponsered unmanned moon landing, then another for a manned
moon landing, then yet another for a system to extract consumables from
lunar soil, another for a reusable earth/moon shuttle, and so forth.  Find
some way to build civilian moonbase infrastructure...  Having a single goal
might result in a bunch of contestents giving up after one person appeared
to win.  And for those that didn't give up, I find something a little scary
about a half dozen people huddling in rickety little moon shelters.  I'd
like to see as much a reward for co-operation as for competition.

Lastly, about ten or fifteen years back I seem to recall that there was an
English space magazine that had an on-going discussion about moonbases on
the cheap.  I recalled it discussed things like how much heat the human
body produced, how much lunar material it'd need for protection from solar
flares, etc.  Unfortunately I don't remember the name of this magazine.
Does this ring a bell to anyone?


Ahem!!!  Hrumph!!!!  You have encurred the wrath of Glock owners.  We will beat
you with our hammers.  Oooops, don't have any  :-)

Seriously.  There is no difference in the safeties betweena Glock and any DA
revolver.  Intellectually, think of the Glock as a very high cap revolver.
Ignoring stove pipes, misfeeds and all the other bonus exercises that
autoloaders give you, that is.

Every gun has its safe moment and its dangerous moment.  If you just learn how
to handle it, it becomes a lot less dangerous (to you).


COD is fine until the buyer opens the box to find they paid 150.00
for a brick. Or if it the seller allows for a personal check to be used
on a COD it's fine till a stop payment is made. There are few methods
to protect both buyer and seller in any sort of transaction. Even with
merchants and customers there are problems...stolen credit cards,
chargebacks, no return policies and getting the wrong item, etc.

About the only protection available to to do business with someone you
trust....someone who has been around for a while.

Jeff

________________________________________________________________________


  I would suggest you take the car to the nearest Chevron dealer, with
your own oil and filter.  Ask for an oil change.  It will cost less
than $10.  Watch him/her do it.  Just from watching someone do a job,
you will be able to learn and remember the sequence, and do it right
when you do it yourself the next time.  Besides, when he/she loosens
the drain nut, the next time around it will be easier for you.

  If it is stuck, use an impact wrench.  Not too much force though.
Use a new washer each time you put the nut back.....


The answer is obvious: ZX-11 D.


I have a UREI 527A 27-band (mono) Equilizer for sale.  Anyone who knows
this unit knows it's been a recording studio standard for years.  It's a
pretty straightforward unit, with balanced ins and outs.  Power supply caps
were recently replaced, and I added XLR connectors (which can be easily
removed if you prefer, as I mounted them on a bracket outside the case).
The unit is in good shape, and is sonically very clean.

I'm asking $225 + UPS shipping.  They're going for $250 generally.  Make me
an offer.


good job to whoever posted the article.  I'd
been saving that NYTimes edition for a while, planning to ytpe it
in myself, but now I don't have to.

For all of those people who were worried about whether or not
the media would even question the raid, we owe it to the
NY Times (despite their rabidly anti-gun editorials) for
being willing to talk to these 4 BATF  agents.


I recently purchased a Centris 610 and am having difficulty getting
my computer to recognize my hard disk drive (external) Using both the
disk uitily of TMS (Diskwriter) and Jasmine's software, neither one
will show the drive.  The drive is the only device connected to the
scuzzi port. I cant find the manual to the tms pro 120 and seem to
remember that it is "terminated".  Is there something else that I am
doing (or not doing) that does not allow my 610 to recognize my external
disk drive?.

thanks in advance for the information.


I ride my bike regularly to classes with my book bag.  I take
the shoulder straps on the bag, and hook them around the rear turn
signals.  I works fine.  You probably will want to attach it with
a bungee cord to keep it from shifting to one side or another.


Hello,

  I have three software packages for sale:

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     include host and remote software. It can control both
     dos and windows 3.1 (both standard and enhanced modes)
     activities. Registration card is enclosed.

     Price: $40.00

  2. The Norton AntiVirus for windows and dos version 2.1. It
     can update virus information any time. It also support
     networks. Registration card is enclosed.

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     graphics presentation program I have ever seen. Registration
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Bully, Them; Bludgeon Them, Bury Them.
--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>


The wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1978 were definitely started by the Arabs.
The war in 1982 was instigated by the Arabs who continually murdered
Israeli children with their rocket attacks.  Israel was only trying to
stop this.
Last what the heck are you talking about with "1968 (Karama)"?  There was
no war in 1968!

   Steve
--


[Excellent discussion of DC-X landing techniques by Henry deleted]

The DC-X will not take of horizontally.  It takes of vertically.

For several reasons.  Vertical landings don't require miles of runway and limit
noise pollution.  They don't require wheels or wings.  Just turn on the engines
and touch down.  Of course, as Henry pointed out, vetical landings aren't quite
that simple.

Well, to be blunt, yes.  But at least you're learning.

The Soyuz vehicles use parachutes for the descent and then fire small rockets
just before they hit the ground.  Parachutes are, however, not especially
practical if you want to reuse something without much effort.  The landings
are also not very comfortable.  However, in the words of Georgy Grechko,
"I prefer to have bruises, not to sink."


For those of you who don't need 24 bit, I got a 32 colour Amiga IFF
of a cloudless Earth (scanned). Looks okay when mapped on a sphere.
E-mail me and I'll send it you...

Louis


So what should I carry if I want to comply with intelligent helmet laws?

(The above comment in no way implies support for any helmet law, nor should
such support be inferred. A promise is a promise.)


That's nothing.  They wouldn't let the British buy Inmos Transputer systems
because of security concerns.  And we designed the damn things!


Hmmmmmm...I got my comp with windows pre-installed, and stacks is still
9,256.  if it was needed only for setup, wouldn't the morons take it
off???  (also, I don't have the qemm manual, as verything came with the
comp,  but not the qemm manual, so could anyone verify this???)

Mickey


: The Bible says there is a God; if that is true then our atheism is
: mistaken.  What of it?  Seems pretty obvious to me.  Socrates said
: there were many gods; if that is true then your monotheism (and our
: atheism) is mistaken, even if Socrates never existed.

Jim,

I think you must have come in late. The discussion (on my part at
least) began with Benedikt's questioning of the historical acuuracy of
the NT. I was making the point that, if the same standards are used to
validate secular history that are used here to discredit NT history,
then virtually nothing is known of the first century.

You seem to be saying that the Bible -cannot- be true because it
speaks of the existence of God as it it were a fact. Your objection
has nothing to do with history, it is merely another statement of
atheism.


A good vocoder like ours will give you 8000 bits per second locked at
full rate (it's a variable rate voice activity vocoder).  If you want
less quality, cut that to 4000 bps (half rate).  At full rate variable
you could put two full-duplex conversations on a V.32bis modem.  This
requires a DSP or ASICs, though.  An RS-6000 has a CPU that could
probably do it in real-time, because it has the add-and-multiply
instruction and a few other DSP things.

If you want to do speech in real-time you need about 4000 samples a
second (for not very good voice) with your 8 bit samples (ISDN is 8000
8-bit samples a second), which is 32 kbps.  You could do a fast 2:1
compression on that to get it down to 16 kbps, which is just about
V.32bis.  The quality at this point is very bleah, but it should work.
Now add in the time for your encryption method.  You're going to need
sampling hardware, which is no problem on a new Mac, an Amiga.  Or a
PC with a SoundBlaster card (just because they're so popular and cheap
- you could also build a simple ADC).  The problem with the
SoundBlaster is that it doesn't seem to be full duplex - you can't
sample and play backq at the same time, making a two-way conversation
a bit tough.  The special hardware or a more capable sound card may be
required.

The only thing that worries me is that 2:1 compression - the
SoundBlaster can do it automatically in hardware, but other than that
I don't have a good feel for how processor intensive it is, so I can't
estimate how fast a PC you'd need.


I've been trying to figure out a way to get Adobe Illustrator
to auto-trace >exactly< what I see on my screen. But it misses
the edges of templates by as many as 6 pixels or more - resulting in images
that are useless  - I need exact tracing, not approximate.

I've tried adjusting the freehand tolerances as well as autotrace
tolerances but it doesn't help. Any suggestions?


[ Much deletion.  He is trying to explain the Immaculate Conception
and the Assumption of Mary.]

If this is true than why in the Genesis story is God concerned that
Adam and Eve might also eat from the Tree of Life and live forever and
be like gods?  Eating of the tree of life would not take away the
effects of eating of the Tree of Knowledge.  Is there any reason to
assume that they had already eaten of the Tree of Life and so had
already attained to eternal life?  If so, what basis is there for
saying that this was taken away from them?  To me the wages of sin are
a spiritual death, not necessarily a physical death.  I
can attest to the truth of this interpretation from my own experience.
I suspect that many others could attest to this as well.

Peace
Will

----------------------------------------------------------------------------


I appreciate if anyone can point out some good books about the dead sea
scrolls of Qumran. Thanks in advance.


I have a Tektronix T921 15Mhz scope for sale.  It is a nice, simple
unit to learn on.  I used it while I was in school.  If you want one
to play with at home, this is easy and inexpensive.  It has a nice
handle and is quite lightweight and easy to move around.

I will consider selling the probes seperately for $25 ea.  They are HP
10017A probes suitable for this type of scope.  The probes are NOT
included in the price of $99 for the scope.

If you need more technical info, you will have to come look at it, as
I am not a scope expert and what I have said is all I know.


Bzzzt.  The 750SS is 40 pounds lighter than the 900SS.  I personally,
and recently, witnessed my 750SS do a stoppie with a larger-than-
average rider aboard.  He said it took two fingers on that measely
single front disk to accomplish the task.  How much more brake do
you need?

I haven't gone over 4000 rpm yet (still in break in) and haven't
had a problem with the 750SS being too slow.  The limited steering
lock can be a problem if you aren't prepared for it.  The mirrors
are very good, IMHO.  Someone forgot to tell their designer about
the "whazza behind you, she no matta" philosophy.

Hmmmm.  I don't see a 400, 750 _or_ 900SS in your .sig.  Did I miss
something?

Beth


Hi, I was looking for some helpful advice.
I'm a university student with about $7000 to spend, and I'm looking for a
used car. Does anyone have any useful advice they could offer to a first-
time buyer? I'm not looking for anything sporty, just something functional
and reliable (less maintenance costs). Anybody have any ideas on what models
might suit me?

Thanks


From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Zionism - racism

Diaspora 'a cancer'
------------------- by Julian Kossoff and Lindsay Schusman in:
Jewish Chronicle, London, 22. Dec. 1989

Leading Israeli author and cultural commentator, A.B. Yehoshua,
launched a ferocious attack on diaspora Jewry at a Zionist Youth
Council meeting in North London, last week.

The diaspora, he claimed, "was the cancer connected to the main
tissue of the Jewish people". He was scathing about its failure to
act before the Holocaust.

He said the diaspora's religious and secular leadership had
ignored the warning signs in the 1920s, and had fiercely opposed
Zionism. Consequently, he considered the Holocaust, "the failure
of Judaism".

His talk, entitled "Diaspora: A Neurotic Solution", covered 5,000
years of Jewish history.

Mr. Yehoshua's other targets included Soviet Jews who were, he
said "not staying [in Israel], but running [away]", and all Jews
outside Israel "who were using other people's countries like
hotels".

The only conclusion he could draw was that the diaspora was
immoral, because it looked to Israel for its identity but lived
elsewhere.

Worse, it threatened Israel itself, creating a distraction for her
citizens, who were leaving by the thousands.

Mr. Yehoshua, who described himself as "a soldier for aliyah",
ended by calling for the creation of a new "total Jew", living in
Israel.

Earlier, speaking at a meeting of Jewish students on the
difficulties of forging a national identity in Israeli literature,
Mr. Yehoshua claimed that Israeli writers were paralyzed by the
country's political situation.

He said Israel's wars had once provided writers with a vital
source of inspiration.  Today, Israeli writers avoided writing
directly about the Arab-Israeli conflict. No major work had been
produced about the intifada.

Instead, writers were tackling themes such as Jewish identity,
emigration from Israel and personal and family issues.

Mr. Yehoshua admitted he also felt unable to write about the
Israeli political situation. He could no longer step into an
Israeli Arab's shoes and portray him as a real "flesh and blood
character".

He claimed that after 40 years of statehood, the problem of
Israeli identity had not been solved. He said Jews remained too
pre-occupied with the borders of identity between Jew and non-Jew,
and were not concerned with the nature of that identity.

Jewish values in Israel embraced every aspect of daily life,
unlike in the diaspora, where Jews had no responsibility for the
country they lived in, he said.

He warned that modern Hebrew, a unifying force for the Jewish
people, would have to struggle for its future, especially in
literary circles. It faced fierce competition from the English
language.


From: "Phil G. Fraering" <pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu>

Right, the Profiting Caste is blessed by God, and may
 freely blare its presence in the evening twilight ..


Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware: 19-Apr-93 AMD i486
clones: Now legal .. by poe@wharton.upenn.edu

It's true.  I read about it from an article in ClariNet (can't send it
here though).  U.S. District Court Judge William A. Ingram, of San
Francisco, threw out the jury verdict prohibiting AMD from using Intels'
microcode for the 486.


oh yes, i'm quite sure they will :)


Pardon me?

"Greece Government Rail-Roads Two Turkish Ethnic Deputies"

While World Human Rights Organizations Scream, Greeks
Persistently Work on Removing the Parliamentary Immunity
of Dr. Sadik Ahmet and Mr. Ahmet Faikoglu.

Dr. Sadik Ahmet, Turkish Ethnic Member of Greek Parliament, Visits US

Washington DC, July 7- Doctor Sadik Ahmet, one of the two ethnic
Turkish members of the Greek parliament visited US on june 24 through
July 5th and held meetings with human rights organizations and
high-level US officials in Washington DC and New York.

At his press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC,
Sadik Ahmet explained the plight of ethnic Turks in Greece and stated
six demands from Greek government.

Ahmet said "our only hope in Greece is the pressure generated from
Western capitals for insisting that Greece respects the human rights.
What we are having done to ethnic Turks in Greece is exactly the same
as South African Apartheid." He added: "What we are facing is pure
Greek hatred and racial discrimination."

Spelling out the demands of the Turkish ethnic community in Greece
he said "We want the restoration of Greek citizenship of 544 ethnic
Turks. Their citizenship was revoked by using the excuse that this
people have stayed out of Greece for too long. They are Greek citizens
and are residing in Greece, even one of them is actively serving in
the Greek army. Besides, other non-Turkish citizens of Greece are
not subject to this kind of interpretation at an extent that many of
Greek-Americans have Greek citizenship and they permanently live in
the United States."

"We want guarantee for Turkish minority's equal rights. We want Greek
government to accept the Turkish minority and grant us our civil rights.
Our people are waiting since 25 years to get driving licenses. The Greek
government is not granting building permits to Turks for renovating
our buildings or building new ones. If your name is Turkish, you are
not hired to the government offices."

"Furthermore, we want Greek government to give us equal opportunity
in business. They do not grant licenses so we can participate in the
economic life of Greece. In my case, they denied me a medical license
necessary for practicing surgery in Greek hospitals despite the fact
that I have finished a Greek medical school and followed all the
necessary steps in my career."

"We want freedom of expression for ethnic Turks. We are not allowed
to call ourselves Turks. I myself have been subject of a number of
law suits and even have been imprisoned just because I called myself
a Turk."

"We also want Greek government to provide freedom of religion."

In separate interview with The Turkish Times, Dr. Sadik Ahmet stated
that the conditions of ethnic Turks are deplorable and in the eyes of
Greek laws, ethnic Greeks are more equal than ethnic Turks. As an example,
he said there are about 20,000 telephone subscribers in Selanik (Thessaloniki)
and only about 800 of them are Turks. That is not because Turks do not
want to have telephone services at their home and businesses. He said
that Greek government changed the election law just to keep him out
of the parliament as an independent representative and they stated
this fact openly to him. While there is no minimum qualification
requirement for parties in terms of receiving at least 3% of the votes,
they imposed this requirement for the independent parties, including
the Turkish candidates.

Ahmet was born in a small village at Gumulcine (Komotini), Greece 1947.
He earned his medical degree at University of Thessaloniki in 1974.
he served in the Greek military as an infantryman.

In 1985 he got involved with community affairs for the first time
by collecting 15,000 signatures to protest the unjust implementation
of laws against ethnic Turks. In 1986, he was arrested by the police
for collecting signatures.

Serdar Argic


The kit is for an already existing Laserwriter IINTX. It is a ROM
upgrade that replaces the font rasterizer code with the more
efficient, speedier code that first became available in Adobe Type
Manager 1.0.

That software came out after the original NTXes and the so-called
ATM rasterizer is now standard on Postscript printers.


Hi again!

    Okay, am getting an old AT type together as well.
Anyone have a 16 bit MFM HDC they'd like to sell? WD is preferred, but
Adaptec and DTK are fine too......for that matter, almost anything
so long as it works!


	If given a definite definition of "God", it is sometimes possible to
falsify the existance of that God.
	But, when one refuses to give an immutable definition, one can not.

---

        " Whatever promises that have been made can than be broken. "


: My 9 yr old son has signed up to do a science report on batteries.  I was
: wondering if anyone could provide me with some information as to how to
: construct a home-built battery.  In my grade school days, I remember seeing
: the 'ice cube tray' version, but I don't remember what to use as a good
: electrolyte or what the easily obtainable metals were.

: Thank you in advance.

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: "One test result is worth one thousand expert opinions" -- Wernher Von Braun
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: Uucp:     uunet!pwa-b!anneser    East Hartford, CT  06108    Live to Ride

--

The simplest one is easy.  Take a lemon or other citrus type fruit, and
stick a pair of metal strips into it for the contacts.  The two strips must
be of disimelar metals like copper and zinc.  Then connect a voltmeter to
the contacts and read the voltage.

bill@xpresso.UUCP                   (Bill Vance),             Bothell, WA
rwing!xpresso!bill


After I have produced a schematic with PADS-LOGIC, how do I import it into
PADS-PCB to create a PCB pattern?  The only way I've gotten it to work is
to output a FutureNet netlist, and then import this into PADS-PCB.  Is there
another way of doing this?  I didn't see any information in the instructions
provided, but I might have missed something.  Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks!


There's also Billy Jack, The Wild One, Smokey and the Bandit
(Where Jerry Reed runs his truck over Motorcycle Gangs Bikes),
and a video tape documentary on the Hell's Angels I
found in a rental store once


Hi ... can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of updated Canon BJ-200
printer driver for Windows 3.1, if any ? I have ver 1.0 which comes with
my BJ-200 printer, I just wonder if there is any newer version.


Based on my experience with a '79 FJ40 ( the hard-top jeep-style model ) I
would definitely give a new model consideration if I were in the market. The
older models are VERY well built. Unless Toyota lost its mind, I would
assume, until  proven otherwise, that the newer models have inherited some
if not all of the qualities of their ancestors.

Two major differences in the running gear (that I'm aware of) need study.
My '79 has a solid front axle housing whereas the newer models have
independant front suspension. The solid axle is theoretically stronger and
more reliable than the newer model, but only experience will tell. The
independant front suspension is, no doubt, a compromise made to satisfy
the typical user, who will never need a real utility vehicle. The second
difference is the type of transfer case used on the newer models. I'm
not sure, but I think Tioyota went to a full-time 4WD or all-wheel drive
system. The older Landcruisers have a "lock-up" type. Both have their
advantages and disadvantages.


I remember reading about a program that made windows icons run away
from the mouse as it moved near them.  Does anyone know the name
of this program and the ftp location (probably at cica)


This brings up an interesting subject that has not been discussed much,
and probably has not been studied much.

As some of you may be aware, I've posted a lot of articles lately on
personality typing (of which the MBTI is a test vehicle).  To come up
to speed, just read 'alt.psychology.personality' and/or ask for by
personality type summary file.

One observation is that people have significantly different personalities
(no question on this) which seem to be essentially in-born.  With respect
to church attendance and participation, some people thrive on this, while
other people have real difficulty with this because they prefer a more
solitary and contemplative lifestyle - that is, they are de-energized if
confronted with excessive closeness to outside activities and lots of
people.  Of course this is measured by extroversion/introversion.

My impression is that many churches are totally blind to this fact, and
create environments that 'scare away' many who are naturally introverted
(there are many introverted characters in the Bible, btw).  I know, I am
quite introverted in preference, and find the 'pressure' by many churches
to participate, to meet together in large groups, etc., to be very
uncomfortable.  Knowing what I know now, these churches have been overly
influenced by highly extroverted people who thrive on this sort of thing.
(BTW, there's nothing wrong with either extroversion or introversion, both
preferences have their place in the Body).

Maybe I should define extrovert/introvert more carefully since these words
are usually not used correctly in our culture.  The extrovert/introvert
scale is a measure of how a person is energized.  The following is
excerpted from my summary:

1.  Energizing - How a person is energized:

        Extroversion (E)- Preference for drawing energy from the outside
                          world of people, activities or things.

        Introversion (I)- Preference for drawing energy from one's internal
                          world of ideas, emotions, or impressions.

Hopefully this will elicit further discussion as to how churches can
structure themselves to meet the real needs of the people who comprise
the Body of Christ, instead of trying to change people's personalities
to fit them into a particular framework.  I'm sure there are other aspects
of how churches have not properly understood personality variances among
their members to the detriment of all.

Jon Noring

--

Charter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.


Does anyone out there have any info on the up and coming fall comdex '93? I was
asked by one of my peers to get any info that might be available.  Or, could
anyone point me in the right direction?  Any help would be appreciated.


Inguiry by address:er1@eridan.chuvashia.su


It depends on the algorithm used. 128-bit secret keys for RSA are
definitively not secure enough.

Regards,
Vesselin


But you haven't taken into the account of propoganda.  Remember, if you
asked Germans before WWII if the Jews shoudl be slaughtered, they would
probably answer no, but, after the propoganda machine rolled through, at
least some were able to tolerate it.

You see, it only takes a small group of fanatics to whip up a general
frenzy.

Well, they haven't managed to outlaw abortion due to the possible objectivity
of the courts.  But, they have managed to create quite a few problems for
people that wanted to have an abortion.  They could create similar problems
for us.  And, it could be worse.  They can try to stop abortions by blocking
clinics, etc., but imagine what they'd have to do to stop atheism.

So, you are able to convince them individually, but could you convince a
whole room of them?  A whole nation?

Yes, I'd be glad if it were gone to.  I've never supported it.  However,
I think that it is a minor problem that can be easily ignored, contrasted
with what *could* happen (an what may be likely).

Well, I am not clear on the religious convictions of Francis Scott Key (the
motto can be attributed to him), but it is at least clear that he believed
in a god.  And, surely there are a few Christians that think as you say,
but I don't think that most do.  Do you think that all Christians actively
despise other religions?  Most that I have met haven't and don't do so.

Well, I have asked a Hindu, Moselem, and a few Jews, and all of them think
that it is applicable to them.  Of course, I can't say that these people
(just some that I know pretty well) are accurate representations of their
faiths.

Well, I'd really like to, and I've tried, but I really don't know where to
get access to _Congressional Records_ from the 1950's.  Can anyone help
out here?

Only in the sense that neither can probably convinced to change their beliefs.

So, are you saying that they redesign the plates each year?

Anyway, your whole argument (conveniently deleted I see) was that the motto
somehow costs us all a lot of money.  This is just not correct.

That is to say, the religion of this country, and the non-religion of
the USSR.  That was what most of those quotes were about, and some included
all atheists, in general, as well.  I don't think that any of the quotes
(although I seem to have lost them) mentioned anything at all about Jesus.
They advocated religion over non-religion.  A specific religion was not
mentioned.

So, you are saying that all Christians must believe that all other religions
should be outlawed, just because they think they are wrong?  That's silly.
I think the Flat-Earthers are wrong, but I don't advocate their banishment.

I think that any such cost would be insignificant.  I mentioned the slight
cost because you said that the motto was costing us a lot of money by
being on our currency.

Well, mottos in general don't really have purposes...  I don't think it
should be removed because I think the benefit would be outweighed by the
consequences.

Then you should be concerned with the opinion of the entire congress.

Why not?  It is the majority that put it there.

But do they remember the debate surrounding the motto?  Do they remember
that some people intended it to be a message against atheists?  Why don't
you include this in your little survey that you were conducting?

[...]

What?  Should I ask some scientists the probability that something Einstein
said about relativity is worthy?  I mean, if Einstein said it, there's a
good chance that it was right (at least at the time).

You need not agree with them all of the time, but you would certainly think
that their decisions would be good evidence in favor of some point.

No, I think that it would be clearly inappropriate for a Supreme Court
Justice to testify before Congress during the consideration of a
Constitutional Amendment.

And, in order for the Court to rule on something, a case usually must be
presented.

Yes, some mushrooms can be planted.  And, I don't appreciate mushrooms on
my pizza, either.

Who was forced to put the motto there?  What do you mean?


I've already corrected my mistake earlier in this thread.  I saw a brief
news report which led to the above inaccuracy.  I have since seen detailed
summaries that show the tanks returned in the late morning.

So, why didn't the BD's leave when the gas was first introduced much
earlier in the morning?  Didn't they care about the children?

Why didn't they release the children weeks ago?


Hello,

I thought this problem might have something to do with Windows 3.1 SMARTDRV and
a VESA video card...any ideas???

I recently purchased a 486DX-33 machine and am having problems where the
machine will suddenly freeze or reboot.  This may happen in Windows 3.1 or DOS
5.0.  Sometimes it is after printing a document, sometimes after using the
mouse, and sometimes just when I am sitting there.  Twice when it happened, the
machine rebooted and sounded seven beeps.  I looked in the documentation and
the seven beep code meant a problem with interrupts.  The machine has the
following configuration and files:

486DX-33
AMI BIOS
5.25 and 3.5 floppies
170 Meg IDE hard drive
256k cache
Microsoft compatible mouse on com1
Citizen GSX-145 on lpt1
NI SuperVGA Monitor with VESA Windows Accelerator Card w/ 1Meg
Two VESA slots
Windows 3.1
DOS 5.0

CONFIG.SYS
==========
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
FILES=20
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=9,128

AUTOEXEC.BAT
============
@ECHO OFF
LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\MOUSE
LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE
SET TEMP=C:\DOS
LH C:\DOS\DOSKEY

When the machine freezes, I can't use the mouse or keyboard or use Ctrl-Alt-Del
to reboot.  If any one can give me any help, I would greatly appreciate it.  If
anyone can help configure this machine for the best efficiency (memory wise) I
would appreciate that also.
--
Douglas B. Dodson		 	Internet:	DBD@ICF.HRB.COM
HRB Systems, Inc.
State College, PA  USA
16804


I am looking for a company that can make custom keys.  For instance we need
a key that says HELP, MAIN MENU, etc which we are going to use instead of
F1,F2, F3 etc... Can anyone point me to a company that does this.  Also
do you have to have a special keyboard, or can I just pop off the old keys
and pop in the new ones...


I read it refered to as the "parabolic cross-section" rule;
the idea was that if you plot the area of the fuselage cross-
section as a function of the point fore-and-aft along the
fuselage, a plot that is a **paraboloid** minimizes somethin'
or 'nother (to be technical about it).


Bob is indeed correct here in more than one way. A look in the old
RCA picture tube manual backs this up, as does SAMS Reference Data
handbook. The internal coating around the perimeter of the CRT
(not the aluminum or tin CRT face coating) is referred to as a
"dag" as well as the outer coating.

Thankfully, I didn't need to go to a f****** library to find it, either.
One sparkling water for Mr. Vanderbyl (no caffeine in that, is there).

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It occurs to me that if they get a wiretap order on you, and the escrow
houses release your code to the cops, your code is now no longer secure.

It's in the hands of cops, and while I am sure most of the time they are
good, their security will not be as good as the escrow houses.

What this effectively means is that if they perform a wiretap on you,
at the end of the wiretap, they should be obligated to inform you that
a tap was performed, and replace (for free) the clipper chip in your
cellular phone so that it is once again a code known only to the
escrow houses.

Do the police normally reveal every tap they do even if no charges are
laid?   In many ways, it would be a positive step if they had to.
Judges set time limits on warrants, I assume.  At the end of the time
limit they should have to renew or replace your chip.

That's if we go with this scheme, which I am not sure I agree with.


You're getting warmer.  The 'little thing in the trigger' has to be
depressed before the trigger can move.  What this means is the damned
thing won't go off until the trigger is pulled.  This makes it just
about (there HAVE been some problems, but we're assuming the gun is
functioning correctly..) as safe as a revolver.  The gun when working
correctly is totally drop safe.

Now, in police work this is a consideration.  There is not a single
documented case I'm aware of where a police officer was killed because
he failed to operate the safety on his firearm.  There are quite a few
documented cases where criminals got hold of the cops gun and couldn't
figure out how to get the safety off in time to use the gun, thus the
proprietary nature of the safety (to the criminal at least) very likely
prevented the office from getting shot.

The purpose of a safety is to make the gun safe from unintentional fire.
This does not mean it should be so complicated as to slow down
intentional use!  Thus the Glock safety is perfectly adequate from a
'safety' standpoint, but not necessarily the most desirable from the
standpoint of open carry where it is easily grabbed by somebody else.
By this criteria it DOES make a lot of sense as a concealed carry piece.
From the standpoint of police use, it is no better (or worse) than a
revolver as far as being 'proprietary' to the officer in the method of
firing it.

The ideal solution may someday be biometric sensing of the user so that
the firearm can't be used by anybody but it's owner, but for now the
wide variety of safety systems helps, unless the criminal happens to be
familiar with that particular type of firearm.


It just occurred to me why the algorithm is secret.  If it were
published, one could then build physically identical clone versions
of the chip that would interoperate with official Clipper chips.  But
the cloner wouldn't provide the keys to the escrow houses.  Hmmn.

Or is there a technical hack that I've missed?  E.g. how about if the
chips were made unprogrammed but serialized, and then shipped to the
two escrow houses who programmed in their halves of the keys, but
in a way that requires that secret keys known only to the escrow houses
be installed as well, without which clone versions wouldn't
interoperate?  This is getting awfully complicated, but that's
crypto for you.


The real problem w/ the Stealth from what I've heard is that Diamond won't
tell anyone how to program their proprietary clock stuff, so X under Linux
and 386BSD won't run....


brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton):
}And yes, this has to be a public key system or it would be almost
}impossible to handle.  It might not be RSA, but that does not mean
}that PKP doesn't get paid.  Until 1997, PKP has the patent on the
}general concept of public key encryption, as well as the particular
}implementation known as RSA.

Hmm, my first thought was that they're using Diffie-Hellman exponential
session key exchange, or an equivalent.  However, the Diffie-Hellman
patent, like the Hellman-Merkle one on public key systems, claims
all equivalents, so the basic point stands.

Interestingly, a quote from Jim Bidzos showed up in the media real
soon after the announcement, and he sounded very pissed.  Maybe he hadn't
yet realized that PKP might have just struck gold?  All they have to
do is get someone to admit the general scheme that the Clipper uses.
---
Jef


The term arrhythmia is usually used to encompass a wide range of abnormal
heart rhythms (cardiac dysrhythmias).  Some of them are very serious
while others are completely benign.  Having "a few irregular beats"
on an EKG could be serious depending on what those beats were and
when they occurred, or could be of no significance.

Low blood potassium levels probably predispose people with underlying
heart disease to develop arrhythmias.  Very low potassium levels are
clearly dangerous, but it is not clear how much of a problem
low-end-of-normal levels are:  a lot of cardiologists seem to treat
anyone with even a mildly low-normal potassium level.


The tribe will be in town from April 16 to the 19th.
There are ALWAYS tickets available! (Though they are playing Toronto,
and many Toronto fans make the trip to Cleveland as it is easier to
get tickets in Cleveland than in Toronto.  Either way, I seriously
doubt they will sell out until the end of the season.)


Could be. There is a Jayson Stark that writes weekly for some press syndicate
and also for Baseball America.

Stark has done this sort of thing, but he has never been serious about it.
He usually states that this sort of projection is useless at the top of
such columns. I think he did it one season and some manager was "projected"
to be thrown out of 60 games and some hitter could expect to be plunked
150 times.

Stark does some really funny stuff. His weekly baseball reviews are good
collections of strange things that happened during the previous week. He
also regularly prints Kinerisms.


-*----

Ming-zhou Liu's main problem is that he has an incompetent
physician -- himself.  This physician has diagnosed a problem,
even though he probably has never seen the diagnosed disease
before and has no idea of what kinds of problems can present
similar symptoms.  This physician now wants to treat his first
case of this disease without any help from the medical community.

The best thing Ming-zhou Liu could do is fire his current
physician and seek out a better one.


Not just because of the riflemen.  They also have many hard bunkers in
the mountains that would be nearly impossible to penetrate. As for
tanks, they would be rather useless in such mountainous terrain.

Gee, that's a new one.  He thought it was a different ethnic group.
Since Hitler was determined to control, at the least, all of Europe,
do you think he gave a damn about international monetary concerns?
Also, there's a LOT of gold in Swiss vaults.  Don't you think he new
that?  If he could have, he would have taken Switzerland.  However,
crazy as he was, he wasn't totally stupid.  It would have cost him a
hell of a lot to take Switzerland, with no guarantee that an invasion
would be successful.  He probably figured (or his generals did, when
he was listening to them) that it wasn't worth the cost.


Pentium processors / motherboards are not available to the general public as
of yet.  Intel has released them to companies such as Gateway and Dell
to do testing, etc.  It'll be a while...


     But good ones can collapse somewhat, then come back the next year.
Burleigh Grimes went from 20+ wins and an ERA of 3 or so in '24 to 13-19 and
an ERA around 4 in '25.  He pitched well for several more years.  Carlton
won 13 and lost 20 the year after his 27-10 record. (Source: Bill James
Historical Baseball Abstract.)
     And let's not forget John Tudor, who started 1-5 and finished 21-6 in
1985.  He had a pretty bad ERA when you take Busch Stadium into account at
the start of the season.

     If I recall, he had a 4.50 ERA in the 1st half and a 3.50 ERA in the
2nd half of last year.
     Hmmm, 21 runs in 11 innings.  Suppose he starts 30 more games, and winds
up w/200 innings pitched.  If he allows 4 runs a game in the next 189
innings, he'll have a 4.75 ERA or so at the end of the year. (I think I have
his totals right.) This is going to be hard to come back from.

     My 1st hunch is that Morris is very gutsy, and that he may be pitching
through an injury and not telling anyone.  My 2nd guess is that he will be
banished to the bullpen the remainder of the season after a few more starts.
(Perhaps when Stewart comes off the DL?  Or will Danny Cox, who went 3 or 4
scoreless innings against the Tribe today, start for Morris?  He looks like
a really good one.  Gaston is scrambling to find starters, I'd imagine.
Luckily, the Jays have a very good offense.)
     I don't think they would dare release him before the end of the year.
He'll just be replaced by Stewart or Cox.


It would also be great for another reason - when not docked, it could serve
as an ARA server to the large internal HD, your corporate email, etc.  In
a pinch, you would also have two machines, instead of 1.5.

If they could couple that thought with RocketShare, and let you use both the
'030 on the PB and the '040 on the dock, it would be a mighty powerful dock.

--


First of all as far as I know, only male homosexuality is explicitly
mentioned in the bibles, so you're off the hook there, I think. In
any event, there are *plenty* of people in many denominations who
do not consider a person's sexual identification of gay/lesbian/bisexual
as an "immoral lifestyle choice"

This is another misconception. You are not being told the whole story.

My former minister is a lesbian, and I know personally and
professionally several openly gay and lesbian ministers. I am
a Unitarian-Universalist and like most others in my denomination,
am pro-choice. You needn't go looking to the Unitarian Universalists
(which is a liberal religion) for acceptance of your sexual
identification and pro-choice views, however; there are many of us
who believe in spirituality AND freedom of conscience.

Good Luck on your journey!


Exactly.

But I'll add another observation: if the chip does become a standard,
the algorithm won't _remain_ secret.

Leaving the government with the only remaining option: to make use
of un-escrowed keys illegal. Which won't begin to bother the terrorists
and child abusers the government is so fond of referring to.

Note that the Federalist papers stress _one_ reason for the right
of citizens to bear arms: to defend themselves _against_ the army.
_Our_ army.

IMHO the _primary_ purpose of private crypto is defend ourselves
_against_ the government. The odd terrorist I'm not worried about;
the goverment damages my quality of life every day.

Rob


What ever happened to the 'Adobe Fortress' I kept hearing about? I
thought this was a 'Cult Stronghold'! If the kgbatf knew it was a
tinderbox, why didn't they just have all the talking heads line up
and start huffin' and puffin?


   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

O.K., its my turn:

       DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA ?!

I am sick and tired of this 'DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA' sentance attributed
to Islamic movements and the PLO; it simply can't be proven as part of their
plan !

(Pro Israeli activists repeat it like parrots without checking its authenticity
since it was coined by Bnai Brith)

What Hamas and Islamic Jihad believe in, as far as I can get from the Arab media,
is an Islamic state that protects the rights of all its inhabitants under Koranic
Law. This would be a reversal of the 1948 situation in which the Jews in
Palestine took control of the land and its (mostly Muslim) inhabitants.

However, whoever committed crimes against humanity (torture, blowing up their
homes, murders,...) must be treated and tried as a war criminal. The political
thought of these movements shows that a freedom of choice will be given to the
Jews in living under the new law or leaving to the destintion of their choice.

As for the PLO, I am at a loss to explain what is going inside Arafat's mind.

Although their political thinking seems far fetched with Israel acting as a true
super-power in the region, the Islamic movements are using the same weapon the
Jews used to establish their state : Religion.


[ Article crossposted from temple.forsale ]
[ Author was Ray Lauff (ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu) ]
[ Posted on Wed, 21 Apr 1993 01:04:27 GMT ]

Regular CBS/FOX release of the wide screen edition of the movie
The Abyss for sale, asking $30, including postage.  I want to
purchase the new director's cut and would like to unload this
LaserDisc if possible.

Two discs, unopened, 132 minutes, letterbox.

Email me if interested.
    ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu

Ray

--
Ray Lauff | Temple University Computer Services | ray_lauff@astro.temple.edu


The Toshiba has a 200ms access time, the NEC has a 280ms access
time, right around the Sony/Apple. Access time is, of course,
somewhat important, but not as vital in the case of CDs as data
transfer rate.

All the drives are double-speed drives with maximum data transfer
rates of 300K/second. Any is a good choice. Apple's is very cheap
when included with new Macs and I agree with Christian's comment
about drivers.

Plus, Apple's is bootable on the Centris and Quadra 800. A very nice
feature if you need to install System software. I don't know if the
NEC or Toshiba are bootable on those machines.


Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough
to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation.  Of
course, they may be over-optimistic.

You can also assume that a working SSTO would have other applications
that would help pay for its development costs.

I'd be inclined to make the prize somewhat larger, but $1G might be enough.


: It occurs to me that if they get a wiretap order on you, and the escrow
: houses release your code to the cops, your code is now no longer secure.
:
: It's in the hands of cops, and while I am sure most of the time they are
: good, their security will not be as good as the escrow houses.
:
:
: What this effectively means is that if they perform a wiretap on you,
: at the end of the wiretap, they should be obligated to inform you that
: a tap was performed, and replace (for free) the clipper chip in your
: cellular phone so that it is once again a code known only to the
: escrow houses.

Getting the court order to reveal the key *also* makes decipherable
all *past* conversations (which may be on tape, or disk, or whatver),
as I understand the proposal. I could be wrong, but I've seen no
mention of "session keys" being the escrowed entities.

As the EFF noted, this raises further issues about the fruits of one
bust leading to incrimination in other areas.

But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)

And it may also become much worse if the ostensible security is
increased, thus allowing greater access to "central office" records by
the government (the conversations being encrypted, who will object to
letting the government have access to them, perhaps even automatically
archiving large fractions...). This was one of the main objections to
the S.266 proposal, that it would force telecom suppliers to provide
easy access for the government.

One the government has had access to months or years of your encrypted
conversations, now all it takes is one misstep, one violation that
gets them the paperwork needed to decrypt *all* of them!

Do we want anyone to have this kind of power?

-Tim May, whose sig block may get him busted in the New Regime


I'm looking for a complete hw/sw solution:
I need an ISA/VLB scsi controller (e.g Ultrastor 34F)
plus a tape drive (500Mb or less like Archive) plus a Windows
program that will work on these.

My intended system will have 32Mb RAM so
plain ISA controllers will no longer do.
But I also hear that the SCSI world
is not very organized.

So does anybody have a tape backup setup
like what I'm looking for ? Please
describe it.

Thanks. e-mail please.


Heres the life of St. MAria Goretti, posted with kind permission of
the editor of the Australian Catholic Magazine "Morning Star".

Hope you like it.

    Put up with anything to prevent sin St. Maria Goretti

    Maria was born on October 16th 1890 to Luigi and Assunta Goretti,
    the  eldest  daughter  in the family of seven. She was a cheerful
    girl, always imitating her parents.  She had but one disire,  but
    one wish: to receive our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament.

    The date was finally set for little Maria to receive our Lord  on
    the feast of Corpus Christi. For Maria, time seemed like an eter-
    nity as she  slowly  neared  the  great  day.   When  it  finally
    arrived, Fr. Jerome( the priest who was to celebrate the Mass and
    give the children their First Holy Communion) delivered a  sermon
    on	the  immense love of Jesus Christ for them and the great love
    we should have in return for Him. He then warmly  urged  them  to
    die rather than commit a mortal sin.

    Maria humbly approached the Altar of God and  received  the  Holy
    Eucharist.	Her  only  sadness  was  the  thought of her father's
    absence, who died some time beforehand. As for the	rest  of  the
    day,  Maria remained under the spell of the divine visit; that is
    until

				   -4-

    her thoughts changed to when she could go next to Holy Communion.
    Thus ended the happiest day of Maria's life.

    Over the next twelve months, Maria had changed  from  a  giggling
    little girl into a quiet young lady with responsibilities. As her
    mother went out into the fields in place of  her  husband,	Maria
    took  on the ironing, cooking, washing and other motherly duties.
    She was doing this not only for her own family, but also for  the
    Serenellis, a father and son who lived with the Goretti's, owning
    a share in the farm. Although Maria was poorer than all the other
    children, she by far surpassed them in virtue. In all thi ngs she
    did the Holy Will of God.

    During the month of June,  Alessandro  Serenelli(the  son)	twice
    made advances upon Maria when he chanced to be alone with her. On
    both occasions Maria managed to  struggle  free  of  Alessandro's
    strong  grip, but on the second, he threatened to kill her if she
    even uttered a word to her mother. From this day on, Maria	lived
    in terror, fearing lest Alessandro attack again.

    On July 5th 1902, Alessandro left work in the fields  to  "get  a
    handkerchief,"  as	he  claimed. He went to the storeroom beneath
    the house where Maria, who was outside on the  landing  with  the
    baby,  could  hear him fumbling about in with tools. She wondered
    what he was doing. It was later learned that he was sharpening  a
    91/2"  blade. He went to the house and called for Maria. She told
    him she wouldn't go to him unless she knew why she was needed. He
    stormed out to the landing and dragged her up to her room. Mar ia
    instantly realized what he was up to. "No, No, No! Do  not	touch
    me!  It  is a sin, you will go to Hell!" At this point Alessandro
    held the knife over Maria's chest, who was now on the floor.

    "Will you or will you not?" Maria gathered all her energy.	"No I
    will  not,	Alessandro,  no!"   She had chosen her martyrdom over
    sin, God over Satan.  Overcome with rage, Alessandro plunged  the
    knife  into   Maria's  breast fourteen times.  Finally he came to
    his senses and thought Maria was dead.  Frantically he threw  the
    knife behind a closet and locked himself in his room.  The crying
    of the baby Teresa	on  the  landing  brought  the	attention  to
    Assunta  and the father of Alessandro. As the baby was unattended
    and was in danger of falling off, they ran to the house  to  find
    Maria,  who,  covered in blood, was dragging herself to the door.
    When asked what happened she said Alessandro  stabbed  her.   "He
    wanted to make me do wrong and I would not."

    The ambulance arrived, then the police who took Alessandro	away.
    As	the  ambulance	carried  Maria to the hospital, a large crowd
    followed on foot.  The doctors at the  hospital held no hope  for
    poor  little Maria.  The same Fr. Jerome who gave Maria her First
    Communion

				   -5-

    came to administer the last rites and to give her Holy  Viaticum.
    He asked Maria if she would forgive her murderer.  "Yes.  For the
    love of Jesus I forgive him.  I wish for him to one day  join  me
    in	Paradise.   May  God forgive him, for I alread y have." Maria
    died at about three o'clock.

    Alessandro was tried  and  found  guilty  of  Maria's  death  but
    because  of  his  age  he  was  sentenced to only thirty years in
    prison.  After eight  years of being a violent prisoner and show-
    ing  no regret for his crime, he saw in a dream, in the  midst of
    a field of flowers, Maria holding out a bunch of white lilies  to
    him.  Soon later he wrote to the local bishop, begging God's par-
    don for the grave sin he had committed.  He later gave  testimony
    in	Maria's  beatification in 1947.  Less than three years later,
    on Ju ne 24th 1950, Maria was canonised.  Assunta Goretti was the
    first mother ever to be present at her daughter's canonisation.

    May St. Maria Goretti help	us  to	be  pure  and  grant  us  the
    strength to die rather than commit a mortal sin.

    Saint Maria Goretti, pray for us.

    by Brendan Arthur


a

What about positional uncertainties in S-L 1993e?   I assume we know where
and what Galileo is doing within a few meters.   But without the
HGA,  don't we have to have some pretty good ideas, of where to look
before imaging?  If the HGA was working,  they could slew around
in near real time (Less speed of light delay).  But when they were
imaging toutatis????  didn't someone have to get lucky on a guess to
find the first images?

Also, I imagine S-L 1993e will be mostly a visual image.  so how will
that affect the other imaging missions.  with the LGA,  there is a real
tight allocation of bandwidth.   It may be premature to hope for answers,
but I thought i'd throw it on the floor.


I'm planning to buy a new VLB/EISA system with a good graphic performance.
So far I looked at the ATI GUP VLB as my favorite graphics-card. But
recently I heard something about a new card from  Miro. It was the Miro
Crystal 24s with 3 MB and True Color support up to 1024x768. It costs just a
little more than the ATI. So, can't decide which one matches better my needs.
Any technical references and performance comparisons (especially from the
Miro card) would be greatly appreciated.

-Peter-

E-Mail : kohut1@urz.unibas.ch


POSTING FOR A FRIEND- I do not have these tickets.

	Interested parties can call John at (408) 522-1904 for more
	information.  There are three lift tickets and they are good
        for anytime this season at Squaw Valley ski resort.


Yes, it was Nixon who was most vocal about giving money to Russia.  It
makes me proud to be a libertarian.  It appears both conservatives and
liberals prefer to cold war until you win, then nurse the enemy back to
health for another go around.

It's like subsidizing the wealthy countries (Japan, Germany, etc.) with
free defense, and then trade-warring with them because of the economic
competition.  It's like subsidizing tobacco farmers while paying
bureaucrats to pursuade people not to smoke.

I ask myself, what law could we pass to prevent government from doing
stupid, frivilous things with OUR money?  Then I think, the Constitution
was supposed to do that.  Could someone please tell me what legitimate
constitutional power the federal government is using when it takes money
from my paycheck and gives it to needy countries?  Seriously.

Roger Collins


April 13, 1993 response by Al Moore (L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM):

Basically the problem is that Israel may remain, or leave, the occupied
territories; it cannot do both, it cannot do neither. So far, Israe
continues to propose that they remain. The Palestinians propose that they
leave. Why should either change their view? It is worth pointing out that
the only area of compromise accomodating both views seems to require a
reduction in the Israeli presence. Israel proposes no such reduction....
and in fact may be said to *not* be negotiating.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tim:

There seem to be two perceptions that **have to be addressed**. The
first is that of Israel, where there is little trust for Arab groups, so
there is little support for Israel giving up **tangible** assets in
exchange for pieces of paper, "expectations", "hopes", etc. The second
is that of the Arab world/Palestinians, where there is the demand that
these "tangible concessions" be made by Israel **without** it receiving
anything **tangible** back.  Given this, the gap between the two stances
seems to be the need by Israel of receiving some ***tangible*** returns
for its expected concessions. By "tangible" is meant something that
1) provides Israel with "comparable" protection (from the land it is to
give up), 2) in some way ensures that the Arab states and Palestine
**will be** accountable and held actively (not just "diplomatically)
responsible for the upholding of all actions on its territory (by citizens
or "visitors").

In essence I do not believe that Israel objections to Palestinian
statehood would be anywhere near as strong as they are now IF Israel
was assured that any new Palestinian state *would be committed to**
co-existing with Israel and held responsible for ALL attacks on Israel
from its territory.
	Aside from some of the rather slanted proposals above,
	how *could* such "guarantees" be instilled? For example,
	how could such "guarantees"/"controls" be added to the
	Palestinian PISGA proposals?

Israel is hanging on largely because it is scared stiff that the minute
it lets go (gives lands back to Arab states, no more "buffer zone", gives
full autonomy to Palestinians), ANY and/or ALL of the Arab parties
could (and *would*, if not "controlled" somehow) EASILY return to the
traditional anti-Israel position. The question then is HOW to *really*
ensure that that will not happen.


I don't understand who this post is directed towards; who are you
trying to convince? By its subject i would assume you are directing
the argument towards people who do not believe that Christ rose
from the dead, but in your "proof," you use the bible exclusively.

The post is therefore immediately useless to anyone who doesn't
believe that the bible is an unadulterated truth, and to everyone
else, it is just a reaffirmation of a belief already held. As far
as i know, there is no disagreement between christians over
the resurrection of christ.

so my question is: what is the purpose of this post?

tomas