Grf. Dropped my Shoei RF-200 off the seat of my bike while trying to rock
it onto it's centerstand, chipped the heck out of the paint on it...

 So I cheerfully spent $.59 on a bottle of testor's model paint and
repainted the scratches and chips for 20 minutes.

 Then, while it was drying, I realized that I was out of smokes and that my
cage is not currently running... So I "had to" take my bike down to the
store. Not wanting to mess up my paint job, I said "Well, heck. I can just
use my old helmet".... this is your standard el cheapie openface...

 I didn't notice a big difference when I switched TO the shoei, but
switching back was really bad...

 1) Doesn't fit worth a damn, too wide in the sides, too short front to
back...
 2) With a faceplate, it's still bloody windy... with the shoei, I normally
ignore the face shield until I get up to about 30ish... with this one,
taxiing to the end of the driveway was too smegging much wind.


Hi, I've come across a fast triangle fill-draw routine for mode 13h.  By
calling this routine enough times, you have a fast polygon drawing routine.

I think I ftp'ed from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/programming.
I have a copy of it so I reupload it there.  The triangle.txt file has this
to say :


I am a Mac-user when it comes to graphics (that's what I own software and hardware for) and
I've recently come across a large number of TTTDDD format modeling databases.  Is there any
software, mac or unix, for translating those to something I could use, like DXF?  Please
reply via email.


Hence we are "all" above the Law where "all" in this case refers to
Christians.

When was the last time you heard about a Jewish animal sacrifice?

The blood sacrifice of an innocent man?

Then why don't Christians follow it, why don't they even follow their
own Ten Commandments?

So, in short; Hitler is in heaven and Gandhi is in Hell?


2nd uptade:

Here are the standings for the poll after 29 votes: 5 points for 1st, 4 for 2nd,... 1 point for 5th:

EA/ NHLPA game

1. DET 78
2. CHI 67
3. VAN 60
4. NY  59
5. MTL 54
6. PIT 23
7. WAS 20
8. BOS 17
9..QUE  9
10.CAL  8
11.ASW  7
12.LA   5
   TOR  5
14.ASE  4
   WIN  4
16.BUF  3
   PHI  3
18.SJ   2
19.MIN  1
   OTW  1
   Atlanta to win Turner Cup 1 (not in the game, but 1 person vote)

Continue to send your votes in this format (until April 20th, approximately)
------------------------------------------------
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
------------------------------------------------


  Minor quibble:  The assualt (and it was one) began near dawn.  The fire did
not break out for several hours.  I find it highly unlikely that the BD would
be cooking lunch while armored vehicles punch holes in their house and are
pumping in tear gas.  The lantern story makes more sense, except the fire
seemed to spread too quickly, even given the nature of the buildings and the
very high winds.  And it was daylight, but I guess in the innner recesses it
could be dark--shutters probably closed as well.

  Which puts us back to the FBI did it, or the BD did it, or some other screw-
up occured, which is quite possible.

  The problem with the FBI as a monolithic entity doing it is that it requires
*everybody* involved to keep their mouths shut.  While they tended to behave
like total idiots, that does not make them homocidal maniacs, either.  And if
it was one nutcase agent, then it serves no purpose to blame the whole agency.

  I can believe that a real nut-case like a Koresh would start such a fire,
but I'm far from convinced he actually did so.

  Then again, I rarely go off making blanket condemnations and pronouncments
within 2 hours of a very confusing incident over 175 miles away...

semper fi,


I just had my 41 Chrysler painted. I was told to refrain from waxing it and
to leave it out in the sun!! Supposedly this let's the volatiles escape from
the paint over a month or so (I can smell it 15 feet away on a hot day) and
lets any slight irregularites in the surface flow out, as the paint remains
a little soft for a while.


Their number is 1-800-541-4716
	they are based in Chicago, IL in case
	you need to call dir assistance.

	Their prices are more down to earth than
	ANY other source for car innards/outers.

	They will send you a free catalog.


Window placement on screen
--------------------------

I would like to configure my system (a HP UNIX) to avoid that any corner
of a given window is displayed outside of the visible screen. The whole
window should be visible and it should be impossible to move any window
outside the visible aerea.

1. Can this be done by configuring the window manager's resources

2. Can this be done on applikation level

3. A hardcoded solution is possible, but is it possible to have a
  upper limit of a given window size


[bits deleted]

I'd be fascinated to see such evidence, please send me your article!
On the negative side however, I suspect that any such simplistic link
    abstinence-education => decreased pregnancy,
    contraceptive-education => increased pregnancy
is false.  The US, which I'd guess has one of the largest proportion of
"non-liberal" sex education in the western world also has one of the highest
teenage pregnancy rates.  (Please correct me if my guess is wrong.)


the Q700 will only do 8bit or 24bit color.  if you want the higher
color depth, it's 2MB's of VRAM altogether for a monitor up to 16".

for a 21" monitor, you can get 8bit max.

hope this answers your questions.


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Don't swallow propaganda as truth Sir. British promised to Venizelos
(greek PM) that mainly greek populated areas of the Ottomans will be
given to Greece, _if_ he will agree to drag Greece in the side of
the British during the WWI (because the greek King was proGerman).
The British succeeded by bombarding Athens (1916), killing quite a few,
forcing abdication of the King, division of Greece into two separate
states (North-South), and finally laying the ground for the most disasterous
division between greeks for our century.(So don't feel bitter that the
"Allies" gave any green light because they liked us....)

Anyway, the British succeed to establish Venizelos, war starts at a second
front against the Germans in the south while they were fighting the war
in the East against the Russians, and finally the WWII came in an end.
After that the British (and French) forgot immediately their promises
(as usually). Even though publicly they say that they support the Greek
cause, practically they not only do nothing, but instead, using some usual
"reasoning" and other crap rhetoric as a pretext, they gradually
backup Kemal (who had given now to the British "water and bread" that
he will dissolve the superethnic Ottoman and contract it into a small
ethnic-state). The main drive behind this British switch was the plan
to keep a Muslim state in the region as buffer against a Russian expansion
into warm-water facilities. The "greek empire" being an Orthodox Christian
state was too prone to become Russian client.

Out of this intrigue, the current state of affairs was established on our
lands. While Venizelos and Kemal were promoted as true "Giants" by the
British, since they worked to realize their goals in the region.
Under the same plan, currently Greece and Turkey are recipients of big
military funds from the US; both they are functioning as anti-Russian
buffers, while simultaneously both remain good clients of State Dept. because
otherwise the use of terror of changing "the balance of power in the Aegean"
will be used.

Under the same exact rational you should see the Cyprus problem.

Gr


Hi everybody,

   I will buy a Honda Civic EX Coupe.  The dealer ask $12,750 for it,
including A/C ( installed ), but not including stereo, tax, registration
fees.  I live in Mexico, so I don't have time to go to a lot of dealers
and compare their prices.  The dealer is in McAllen, Tx.  Is this a good
price for that car ?  If not, how much should I pay for it ?

   Please e-mail ASAP if you don't want to post.  Thanks a lot.

   Orlando Pugliese
   opuglies@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx


Doug-- Actually, if memory serves, the Atlas is an outgrowth of the old
Titan ICBM.  If so, there's probably quite a few old pads, albeit in need
of some serious reconditioning.  Still, Being able to buy the turf and
pad (and bunkers, including prep facility) at Midwest farmland prices
strikes me as pretty damned cheap.


I responded to a post last week and it carried somewhat of a hostile
tone for which I am apologizing for. It is not my intent to  create
contriversy or to piss people  off. To those who I offend, I'm sorry


From _Cycle_World_ magazine (5/93) (who usually never says _anything_
bad about any motorcycle):

"The Max certainly has motor, but there are some things it is short of.
It is short of chassis.  It loves straight lines; aimed in one, it is
nicely stable.  But it is not overfond of corners.  Forced into one, it
protests, shaking its head, chattering its front tire, grinding its
footpegs, and generally making known its preference for straight
pavement.  Bumps?  It doesn't like them either.  Its fork isn't too bad,
though it is soft enough that it can be bottomed under hard braking.
The shocks, though which work on that short-travel, shaft-drive
swingarm, are firm to the point of harshness."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Uh, Gerald, I think he was joking...


I am new to this newsgroup so I apologise if this is not the appropriate
forum to ask this question. I am looking for the address of Noise Cancellation
Technologies. It is rather important. So if you can help me in this regard,
please do. Thank you.


You'll probably have to set the palette up before you try drawing
in the new colours.

Use the bios interrupt calls to set the r g & b values (in the range
from 0-63 for most cards) for a particular palette colour (in the
range from 0-255 for 256 colour modes).

Then you should be able to draw pixels in those palette values and
the result should be ok.

You might have to do a bit of colourmap compressing if you have
more than 256 unique rgb triplets, for a 256 colour mode.


Some birds require constant management for survival.  Pointing a sensor at
the sun, even when powered down, may burn it out.  Pointing a
parabolic antenna  at Sol,  from venus orbit  may trash the
foci  elements.

Even if you let teh bird drift,  it may  get hosed by some
cosmic phenomena.


I'm sure it is, and I am not amused.  Every time I read that part of the
TIFF spec, it infuriates me- and I'm none too happy about the
complexity of the spec anyway- because I think their "arbitrary but
carefully chosen number" is neither.  Additionally, I find their
choice of 4 bytes to begin a file with meaningless of themselves- why
not just use the letters "TIFF"?

(And no, I don't think they should have bothered to support both word
orders either- and I've found that many TIFF readers actually
don't.)


Christians through ages have had to learn to be patient. I do think
it's time to face the reality. The events during the last 52 two
days showed what the world is really like.

Kent


The rights guaranteed by the Constitution were considered to be
pre-existing.  The only agreement was that they exist.  Therefore, no
law grants such rights. Laws can only guarantee, protect, or infringe
such rights.

Websters Third New International Dictionary of the English Language,
Unabridged  1986

infringe
  1.a. to break down:DESTROY
    b. DEFEAT, FRUSTRATE
    c. CONFUTE, REFUTE
    d. IMPAIR, WEAKEN
  2. to commit a breach of : neglect to fulfill or obey : VIOLATE,
     TRANSGRESS
     vi : ENCROACH, TRESPASS

infringement
  1. the act of infringing : BREACH, VIOLATION, NONFULFILLMENT
  2. an encroachment or trespass on a right or priveledge : TRESPASS
                                      ~~~~~

Now, by what stretch of the imagination do you get your ideas about
infringement of rights?


In the "sex ed" portion of the  high school "health" course I took
in 1984, it was impressed that the only 100% positive way to *not*
get pregnant was to *not* have sex.

Other methods of contraception were discussed, in the framework of
a chart which showed both the _expected_ failure rate (theoretical,
assumes no mistakes) and the _actual_ failure rate (based on research).
Top of the chart was something like this:

 Method                  Expected         Actual
 ------                 Failure Rate    Failure Rate
 Abstinence                 0%              0%

And NFP (Natural Family Planning) was on the bottom. The teacher even
said, "I've had some students tell me that they can't use anything for
birth control because they're Catholic. Well, if you're not married and
you're a practicing Catholic, the *top* of the list is your slot, not
the *bottom*.  Even if you're not religious, the top of the list is
safest."

Yes, this was a public school and after Dr Koop's "failing abstinence,
use a condom" statement on the prevention of AIDS.

-jen

--


 export.lcs.mit.edu:/pub/sunkbd..930314.tar.Z

	/MaF


I am trying to build and use imake (X11R4) on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX V3.2.
I am having the following 2 problems.

(1) Many of my Imakefile's have contructs like
                /**/#This is a makefile
        at the start of lines to pass Makefile comments thru the C
        preprocessor and into the Makefile.  Most of the C preprocessors that
        I have used will not treat such a # as appearing at the start of the
        line.  Thus the C preprocessor does not treat the hash symbol as the
        start of a directive.

        However the IBM cpp strips the comment and treats the hash symbol
        as the start of a directive.  The cpp fails when it determines
        that "This" is not a known directive.  I have temporarily hacked my
        imake to handle this situation but would like to come up with a better
        fix.

(2) Several Imakefiles use /**/ as a parameter to a macro when a particular
        use of the macro does not need a value for the parameter.  The AIX cpp
        gives warnings about these situations but continues to work OK.

If you are familiar with these problems and have solutions, I would appreciate
information about on your solutions.  (Perhaps, this is solved in a later
version of imake that I have not reviewed.)  Also, do you know of other cpp's
that behave similarly?


Allen, sometimes I think you're OK.  And sometimes you tend to rashly leap into
making statement without thinking them out.

Wanna guess which today?

You'd need to launch HLVs to send up large amounts of stuff.  Do you know
of a private Titan pad?


Hello,

	I have the following list of books about ISA/EISA buses:

1. ISA System Architecture
   by Tom Shanley/Don Anderson
   MindShare Press, 1993 $34.95

2. EISA System Architecture
   by Tom Shanley/Don Anderson
   MindShare Press, 1993 $24.95

3. ISA, EISA: PC,XT,AT,E-ISA,ISA, and EISA I/O timing and specs.
   by Edward Solari, Copyright 1992
   ISBN: 0-929392-15-9

4. AT Bus Design
   by Edward Solari, Copyright 1990
   ISBN: 0-929392-08-6

5. Interfacing to the IBM PC/XT
   by Eggebrecht, Lewis C. Copyright 1990

	Do you have any comments on any of them?

	Please reply by e-mail,


Jobs?  What the hell have jobs to do with it?  It's another touchy-feely
program from the new, vapid administration.  The fact is, the major claim
made for "universal" immunization -- that "all children will be immunized" --
has absolutely no validity.  Several states already have U.I. programs, have
had these programs for _years_. The result: on average, their success rates
are no better than the national average.  It seems that the gummint hasn't
yet figured out a way to MAKE parents bring their kids in.  Yet another case
of shameless demagoguery from the "new" Democrats, the "agents of change."

What?  Clinton using this issue for _partisan gain_?  Do tell.

All together now... c'mon, you know the words... "Meet the new boss! Same as
the old boss!"  And the chorus: "We won't get fooled again!"

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

Paul Havemann   (Internet: paul@hsh.com)


The file is frite20.zip and you'll find it in the 'icons' directory
at Cica.

The one line description is:
Afflict Your Icons with "Cursorphobia"


We are Dartmouth engineering students.We are looking for documented
data regarding the wear associated with turning on an off a monitor and
how it relates to power consumption.  Interested in a comparison
between the wear on a monitor which is left on continuously and one
which is turned off when not in use.

Please personalize E-mail to: ds@Dartmouth.edu

Thank you,


MLB Standings and Scores for Friday, April 16th, 1993
	                   (including yesterday's games)

NATIONAL WEST	      Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road
San Francisco Giants   06   04    .600    --     6-4     Won 1   03-01  03-03
Houston Astros         05   04    .556   0.5     5-4    Lost 1   00-03  05-01
Atlanta Braves         06   05    .545   0.5     5-5    Lost 2   03-03  03-02
Colorado Rockies       03   05    .375   2.0     3-5     Won 1   03-03  00-02
Los Angeles Dodgers    03   07    .300   3.0     3-7    Lost 4   00-03  03-04
San Diego Padres       02   07    .222   3.5     2-7    Lost 4   00-04  02-03
Cincinnati Reds        02   07    .222   3.5     2-7    Lost 3   01-02  01-05

NATIONAL EAST
Philadelphia Phillies  08   01    .889    --     8-1     Won 5   05-01  03-00
Pittsburgh Pirates     07   02    .778   1.0     7-2     Won 4   03-02  04-00
St. Louis Cardinals    07   02    .778   1.0     7-2     Won 3   04-02  03-00
New York Mets          04   04    .500   3.5     4-4    Lost 1   02-03  02-01
Chicago Cubs           04   05    .444   4.0     4-5     Won 1   01-02  03-03
Montreal Expos         04   05    .444   4.0     4-5     Won 1   01-02  03-03
Florida Marlins        03   06    .333   5.0     3-6     Won 1   02-04  01-02

AMERICAN WEST         Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road
Texas Rangers          06   02    .750    --     6-2    Lost 1   04-02  02-00
California Angels      05   02    .714   0.5     5-2     Won 3   03-02  02-00
Chicago White Sox      04   04    .500   2.0     4-4     Won 1   02-03  02-01
Minnesota Twins        04   04    .500   2.0     4-4    Lost 1   01-02  03-02
Oakland Athletics      04   04    .500   2.0     4-4    Lost 2   04-02  00-02
Seattle Mariners       04   04    .500   2.0     4-4    Lost 1   03-02  01-02
Kansas City Royals     02   07    .222   4.5     2-7     Won 1   01-05  01-02

AMERICAN EAST
Boston Red Sox         07   02    .778    --     7-2     Won 3   03-00  04-02
Toronto Blue Jays      05   03    .625   1.5     5-3     Won 1   04-02  01-01
New York Yankees       05   04    .556   2.0     5-4    Lost 1   02-01  03-03
Detroit Tigers         04   04    .500   2.5     4-4     Won 2   02-00  02-04
Cleveland Indians      03   06    .333   4.0     3-6    Lost 3   02-01  01-05
Milwaukee Brewers      02   05    .286   4.0     2-5    Lost 4   00-02  02-03
Baltimore Orioles      02   06    .222   4.5     2-6     Won 1   00-02  02-04

			     YESTERDAY'S SCORES
                  (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order)

NATIONAL LEAGUE				AMERICAN LEAGUE

Houston Astros		1		Seattle Mariners	1
Montreal Expos		2		Toronto Blue Jays	3

New York Mets		3		Oakland Athletics	2
Colorado Rockies	5		Detroit Tigers		3

Pittsburgh Pirates	5		Kansas City Royals	5
San Diego Padres	4 (13)		New York Yankees	4

St. Louis Cardinals	4		Cleveland Indians	3
Los Angeles Dodgers	2		Boston Red Sox		4 (13)

Atlanta Braves		1		California Angels     PPD
San Francisco Giants	6		Milwaukee Brewers    RAIN

Chicago Cubs	     IDLE		Baltimore Orioles    IDLE
Cincinnati Reds      IDLE		Chicago White Sox    IDLE

Florida Marlins      IDLE		Minnesota Twins      IDLE
Philadelphia PhilliesIDLE		Texas Rangers        IDLE
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Joseph Hernandez          |    RAMS  | |    /.\  ******* _|_|_  / |   LAKERS
jtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU  |   KINGS  | |__ |   | DODGERS _|_|_  | |   RAIDERS
jtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU  |  ANGELS  |____||_|_| *******  | |  |___|  CLIPPERS


From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:

    Male sex survey: Gay activity low

    A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
    examination of American men's sexual practices published since
    the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2
    percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and
    1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.

    The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday
    by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than
    the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional
    wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report.

The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.
The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
male population.  It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for
straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically
how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are.


Okay, here's the entry sheet.  Keep in mind that not all spots are
decided, so it may change.

     Series  			Your Pick		Games

  Division Semis

NY Islanders-Pittsburgh
New Jersey-Washington

Buffalo-Boston
Montreal-Quebec

St. Louis-Chicago
Toronto-Detroit

Winnipeg-Vancouver
Los Angeles-Calgary

  Division Finals

Patrick
Adams
Norris
Smythe

  Conference Finals

Wales
Campbell

Stanley Cup winner

See previous post for scoring.  Good luck!

--
    Keith Keller				LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
						LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
	kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu		IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!


Does is include raquetball?  Is it good at Espree?  What is the annual fee?


Hmm, followup on my own posting... Well, who cares.

First let me try to work out the facts that we get to know about the
Clipper-Chip, from what Hellman and Denning were able to tell us:

The chip itself is not confined to (digital) telephony, but performs
general encryption in a symmetric manner.  The chip supports CFB OFB
ECB (and whatever the fourth mode of operation for DES is), the algorithm
consists of 32 rounds of *whatever*, and takes 80-Bit keys. Input data
seems to be 64 Bit? Yes.
So if two people want secure communication (whatever that means when
Clipper is involved) they have first to agree on ONE secret key.
(Or is it one key per direction ?)
They can exchange this key via DH-schemes or however.
Somehow the two feed their so won secret key into the Clipper-chip
which is now ready to work.
The clipper chip carries an unique Serial-Number (30 Bit's), and 160 Key-Bits.
These 160 key-bits seem to have been gained by encrypting the serial-number
with 160 seed-bits. (The seed-bits seem not to be stored in the chip)
At beginning of communication (and perhaps at certain invtervals whithin??)
before sending the fist real 64-bit output of the first encryption the Clipper
chip put's out packets (I guess 3) which represent the serial number,
and the session key. This might look like
X{ E[K; chipkeyK1+K2], serial number}
where X is a transformation of these 3? Packets involving a family-key.
This family(sp?)-key is equal for ALL chips. (X might be a simple XOR ???)
After that, the (digital?) phone-call can be done as usual, every packet
being encrypted and decrypted by Clipper.

Denning describes how K1 and K2 shall be generated, using a seed of 160
Bit's.

Now, leaving alone politics, which does not concern me as much as you, not
being an American Citicien(tm) [ :-) ] , there are some weak points in this
scheme, which might be exploited by several parties.

As far as I know about the generation of K1,K2 ; S1 and S2 look like the
obvious backdoor. They could be used to generate the chip-keys by knowing
the serial-number (and also the family-key) of the chip. I really can't
imagine why these seeds would be needed otherwise, as true random-sources
for the generation of the K1,K2 can be bought for not to much money.

Then, the escrows. Each of them will get 80 bit of a 160-Bit key. Security
could (as little as existant) be maximized by giving them 160-bits
each, which have to be xored together to give the K1,K2. Now let's simply
assume the escrows are trustworthy, and can't be fooled by criminals or
law enforchemnt agencies. (And there will be no quarrel between escrows
and l.e.a which would hinder the l.e.a in doing their duties, and so on
and so on) Once the keys are surrendered, the corresponding
chip is compromised forever. Not very clever, IMHO [ :-)) ].
How about sending in the encrypted session-keys for each phone-call that
the police (or whoever) want's to listen to? Escrows could then simply decode
this session-key and send it back to police. (And would naturally not do this
after the warrant has expired...) This would be a better technical solution,
but I guess politics will not work that way.

Apparently (as Miss Dennings stated) the only one performing actually decodes
of intercepted messages shall be the FBI. Great. So local guys can not inter-
cept (understand) your traffic anymore. Does this mean that the FBI monopolizes
the right to do legal wiretaps ? (How is law over there, I have no idea who
is allowed to tap, and who not) This certainly means that watched communi-
cations will be routed automatically from the service-providing company
to the FBI, if the communicaiton is a watched one. And this means as far
as I understand it that the family-key has to be known by each switching-
company, and those providing cellular-phone servies etcetc. So the family-key
will not be very secret, and thus serial-numbers of calls will be readable
by anybody who cares. I _like_ traffic-analysis!

What do you guess, what happens, if you use the chip in ECB mode, and the
first few packets of the chip are somehow lost or garbled? So the session
key would not be actually broadcasted over the line? Hmmm. Shouldn't be so
difficult to do *that* :^)

And now a last point, for the other side. After all I have read and heard about
Clipper (not the programming language for dBase, is it ? [:-)]) it seems
to have many advantages, which shold not be overseen!

Now an afterthought to your rights. Please note that I have no idea what I am
talking about!!!

From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221)

If this text is actually in your Bill of Rights, who can overrule this ?
But: 'Freedom of speech' is not 'Secrecy of speech'

Maybe you need to extend your Amendment #4  to cover information and
communication too ?

I am not very sure in what position your government actually is *legally*
when it tries to ban cryptography (and arms) Amendment say you may have them,
but not under what conditions. Hmm, tricky situation :-(

Actually it will make not much sense to discuss that topic in sci.crypt...
Discussion of technical details and vulnerabilites of the system are highly
suggested and appreciated :-)

Friendly greetings,

	Germano Caronni

DISCLAIMER: Everything in here is derived from things I heard and read from
other persons, so everything could be wrong. All opinions and thoughts in here
are mine, and subject to change without further notification. No warranty,
neither implicit not explicit etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam.

p.s. Please don't ask me about political opinions, as I might not bother to re-
     ply. (For further information read the last line of P. Metzgers signature)


I would appreciate some help in locating a telephone controlled power bar
for my PC. The unit would power up the PC when the telephone rings and
keep it up as long as the telephone connection is present.

I also need to be able to power up this same PC through the use of an external
timer. I can supply power or a contact closure to do this.

I will summarize and post the results of this query here.

Thank you.


Has anyone tried connecting an Apple Laserwriter II to a PC?
Do I need any special controller card or software to do that?

Thanks for any comments.


Maybe because baseball is the only business where those who are
responsible for the fiscal aspects of the game preach gloom and doom.
These allegedly intelligent people seem to predict bad times, losing
money, bankruptcies at an alarming rate, and there's going to be an
increased degradation of the product they produce.  Could you imagine
IBM, with all their problems, promoting themselves the way Major League
Baseball does?  Their stock would plummet to unthinkable depths (not
that they are too far from it now :-).  What would happen at GM?  Where
would GM be if they admitted to cutting corners and producing an
inferior product because of alleged labor problems? I think it shows a
lack of confidence for the people who run the game.

Forget it.  Word has it three divisions with a wild card is just about
a done deal.  It has to be decided soon since negotiations with the
networks also have to begin soon.


Adobe has been doing this for years.

There are some fonts that are only available as PS fonts.  If you
have a PS font that you want to use, use ATM.  Otherwise, it is
a waste of system resources.

Personally, I use both.


Check out #27903, just some 20 posts before your own. Maybe you missed
it amidst the flurry of responses? Yet again, the use of this
newsgroup is hampered by people not restricting their posts to matters
they have substantial knowledge of.

For cites on MSG, look up almost anything by John W. Olney, a
toxicologist who has studied the effects of MSG on the brain and on
development.  It is undisputed in the literature that MSG is an
excitotoxic food additive, and that its major constituent, glutamate
is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain
(humans included).  Too much in the diet, and the system gets thrown
off.  Glutamate and aspartate, also an excitotoxin are necessary in
small amounts, and are freely available in many foods, but the amounts
added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be
encountered in a ny single food.  By eating lots of junk food,
packaged soups, and diet soft drinks, it is possible to jack your
blood levels so high, that anyone with a sensitivity to these
compounds will suffer numerous *real* physi9logical effects.
Read Olney's review paper in Prog. Brain Res, 1988, and check *his*
sources. They are impecable. There is no dispute.


First of all, I'm not your buddy!  Second, read what I wrote.  I'm not
talking about what muslims are ALLOWED to do, merely what *SOME*
practice.  They consider themselves as muslim as you, so don't retort
with the old and tired "they MUST NOT BE TRUE MUSLIMS" bullshit.  If I
gave you the names what will you do with this information?  Is a fatwa
going to be leashed out against the perpetrators?  Do you honestly think
that someone who did it would voluntarily come forward and confess?
With the kind of extremism shown by your co-religionaries?  Fat chance.

At any rate, there can be no conclusive "proof" by the very nature of
the act.  Perhaps people that indulge in this practice agree with you in
theory, but hope that Allah will forgive them in the end.

I think it's rather arrogant of you to pretend to speak for all muslims
in this regard.  Also, kind of silly.  Are you insinuating that because
the Koranic law forbids it, there are no criminals in muslim countries?

This is as far as I care to go on this subject.  The weakness of your
arguments are for all netters to see.  Over and out...
--


I am looking for Ultima V for the IBM, I would like the entire package
(meaning I need more than just the game, I would like the Docs also)
Since it is an old game I do not want to pay a lot of money.
If you are interested in selling this game please respond to this message.


: significantly less than the value of many automobiles.  And for those who will
: argue that the animals out there stealing cars and everything else (not to
: mention committing COMPLETELY senseless acts of violence, such as rape) cannot
: be valued in terms of money because they are human beings, I submit that they
: are not human beings.  Jim Callison, I think, is on the right track.  And


I can not believe the way this thread on candida(yeast) has progressed.
Steve Dyer and I have been exchanging words over the same topic in Sci.
Med. Nutrition when he displayed his typical reserve and attacked a women
poster for being treated by a liscenced physician for a disease that did
not exist.  Calling this physician a quack was reprehensible Steve and I
see that you and some of the others are doing it here as well.

Let me tell you who the quacks really are, these are the physicans who have
no idea how the human body interacts with it's environment and how that
balance can be altered by diet and antibiotics.  These are the physicians
who dismiss their patients with difficult symptomatology and make them go
from doctor to doctor to find relief(like Elaine in Sci. Med. Nutrition) and
then when they find one that solves their problem, the rest start yelling
quack.  Could it just be professional jealousy?  I couldn't help Elaine or Jon
but somebody else did.  Could they know more than Me?  No way, they must be a
quack.

I've been teaching a human nutrition course for Medical students for over ten
years now and guess who the most receptive students are?  Those that were
raised on farms and saw first-hand the effect of diet on the health of their
farm animals and those students who had made a dramatic diet change prior to
entering medical school(switched to the vegan diet).  Typically, this is
about 1/3 of my class of 90 students.  Those not interested in nutrition
either tune me out or just stop coming to class.  That's okay because I
know that some of what I'm teaching is going to stick and there will be at
least a few "enlightened" physicians practicing in the U.S.  It's really
too bad that most U.S. medical schools don't cover nutrition because if
they did, candida would not be viewed as a non-disease by so many in the
medical profession.

In animal husbandry, an animal is reinnoculated with "good" bacteria after
antibiotics are stopped.  Medicine has decided that since humans do not
have a ruminant stomach, no such reinnoculation with "good" bacteria is
needed after coming off a braod spectrum antibiotic.  Humans have all
kinds of different organisms living in the GI system(mouth, stomach, small
and large intestine), sinuses, vagina and on the skin.  These are
nonpathogenic because they do not cause disease in people unless the immune
system is compromised.  They are also called nonpathogens because unlike
the pathogenic organisms that cause human disease, they do not produce
toxins as they live out their merry existence in and on our body.  But any of
these organisms will be considered pathogenic if it manages to take up
residence within the body.  A poor mucus membrane barrier can let this
happen and vitamin A is mainly responsible for setting up this barrier.
Steve got real upset with Elaine's doctor because he was using anti-fungals
and vitamin A for her GI problems.  If Steve really understoood what
vitamin A does in the body, he would not(or at least should not) be calling
Elaine's doctor a quack.

Here is a brief primer on yeast.  Yeast infections, as they are commonly
called, are not truely caused by yeasts.  The most common organism responsible
for this type of infection is Candida albicans or Monilia which is actually a
yeast-like fungus.  An infection caused by this organism is called candidiasis.
Candidiasis is a very rare occurance because, like an E. Coli infection, it
requires that the host immune system be severly depressed.

Candida is frequently found on the skin and all of the mucous membranes of
normal healthy people and it rarely becomes a problem unless some predisposing
factor is present such as a high blood glucose level(diabetes) or an oral
course of antibiotics has been used.  In diabetics, their secretions contain
much higher amounts of glucose.  Candida, unlike bacteria, is very limited in
it's food(fuel) selection.  Without glucose, it can not grow, it just barely
survives.  If it gets access to a lot of glucose, it blooms and over rides
the other organisms living with it in the sinuses, GI tract or vagina.  In
diabetics, skin lesions can also foster a good bloom site for these little
buggers.  The bloom is usually just a minor irritant in most people but
some people do really develop a bad inflammatory process at the mucus
membrane or skin bloom site.  Whether this is an allergic like reaction to
the candida or not isn't certain.  When the bloom is in the vagina or on
the skin, it can be easliy seen and some doctors do then try to "treat" it.
If it's internal, only symptoms can be used and these symptoms are pretty
nondiscript.

Candida is kept in check in most people by the normal bacterial flora in
the sinuses, the GI tract(mouth, stomach and intestines) and in the
vaginal tract which compete with it for food.  The human immune system
ususally does not bother itself with these(nonpathogenic organisms) unless
they broach the mucus membrane "barrier".  If they do, an inflammatory
response will be set up.  Most Americans are not getting enough vitamin A
from their diets.  About 30% of all American's die with less Vitamin A than
they were born with(U.S. autopsy studies).  While this low level of vitamin
A does not cause pathology(blindness) it does impair the mucus membrane
barrier system.  This would then be a predisposing factor for a strong
inflammatory response after a candida bloom.

While diabetics can suffer from a candida "bloom" the  most common cause of
this type of bloom is the use of broad spectrum antibiotics which
knock down many different kinds of bacteria in the body and remove the main
competition for candida as far as food is concerned.  While drugs are
available to handle candida, many patients find that their doctor will not
use them unless there is evidence of a systemic infection.  The toxicity of
the anti-fungal drugs does warrant some caution.  But if the GI or sinus
inflammation is suspected to be candida(and recent use of a broad spectrum
antibiotic is the smoking gun), then anti-fungal use should be approrpriate
just as the anti-fungal creams are an appropriate treatment for recurring
vaginal yeast infections, in spite of what Mr. Steve Dyer says.

But even in patients being given the anti-fungals, the irritation caused by
the excessive candida bloom in the sinus, GI tract or the vagina tends to
return after drug treatment is discontinued unless the underlying cause of
the problem is addressed(lack of a "good" bacterial flora in the body and/or
poor mucus membrane barrier).  Lactobacillus acidophilus is the most effective
therapy for candida overgrowth.  From it's name, it is an acid loving
organism and it sets up an acidic condition were it grows.  Candida can not
grow very well in an acidic environment.  In the vagina, L. acidophilius is
the predominate bacteria(unless you are hit with broad spectrum
antibiotics).

In the GI system, the ano-rectal region seems to be a particularly good
reservoir for candida and the use of pantyhose by many women creates a very
favorable environment around the rectum for transfer(through moisture and
humidity) of candida to the vaginal tract.  One of the most effctive ways to
minimmize this transfer is to wear undyed cotton underwear.

If the bloom occurs in the anal area, the burning, swelling, pain and even
blood discharge make many patients think that they have hemorroids.  If the
bloom manages to move further up the GI tract, very diffuse symptomatology
occurs(abdominal discomfort and blood in the stool).  This positive stool
for occult blood is what sent Elaine to her family doctor in the first
place.  After extensive testing, he told her that there was nothing wrong
but her gut still hurt.  On to another doctor, and so on.  Richard Kaplan
has told me throiugh e-mail that he considers occult blood tests in stool
specimens to be a waste of time and money because of the very large number of
false positives(candida blooms guys?).  If my gut hurt me on a constant
basis, I would want it fixed.  Yes it's nice to know that I don't have
colon cancer but what then is causing my distress?  When I finally find a
doctor who treats me and gets me 90% better, Steve Dyer calls him a quack.

Candida prefers a slightly alkaline environment while bacteria
tend to prefer a slightly acidic environment.  The vagina becomes alkaline
during a woman's period and this is often when candida blooms in the vagina.
Vinegar and water douches are the best way of dealing with vaginal
problems.  Many women have also gotten relief from the introduction of
Lactobacillus directly into the vaginal tract(I would want to be sure of
the purity of the product before trying this).  My wife had this vagina
problem after going on birth control pills and searched for over a year
until she found a gynocologist who solved the problem rather than just writting
scripts for anti-fungal creams.  This was a woman gynocologist who had had
the same problem(recurring vaginal yeast infections).  This M.D. did some
digging and came up with an acetic acid and L. Acidophilis douche which she
used in your office to keep it sterile.  After three treatments, sex
returned to our marraige.  I have often wondered what an M.D. with chronic
GI distress or sinus problems would do about the problem that he tells his
patients is a non-existent syndrome.

The nonpathogenic bacteria L. acidophilus is an acid producing bacteria
which is the most common bacteria found in the vaginal tract of healthy women.
If taken orally, it can also become a major bacteria in the gut.  Through
aresol sprays, it has also been used to innoculate the sinus membranes.
But before this innoculation occurs, the mucus membrane barrier system
needs to be strengthened.  This is accomplished by vitamin A, vitamin C and
some of the B-complex vitamins.  Diet surveys repeatedly show that Americans
are not getting enough B6 and folate.  These are probably the segement of
the population that will have the greatest problem with this non-existent
disorder(candida blooms after antibiotic therapy).

Some of the above material was obtained from "Natural Healing" by Mark
Bricklin, Published by Rodale press, as well as notes from my human
nutrition course.  I will be posting a discussion of vitamin A  sometime in
the future, along with reference citings to point out the extremely
important role that vitamin A plays in the mucus membrane defense system in
the body and why vitamin A should be effective in dealing with candida
blooms.  Another effective dietary treatment is to restrict carbohydrate
intake during the treatment phase, this is especially important if the GI
system is involved.  If candida can not get glucose, it's not going to out
grow the bacteria and you then give bacteria, which can use amino acids and
fatty acids for energy, a chance to take over and keep the candida in check
once carbohydrate is returned to the gut.

If Steve and some of the other nay-sayers want to jump all over this post,
fine.  I jumped all over Steve in Sci. Med. Nutrition because he verbably
accosted a poster who was seeking advice about her doctor's use of vitamin
A and anti-fungals for a candida bloom in her gut.  People seeking advice
from newsnet should not be treated this way.  Those of us giving of our
time and knowledge can slug it out to our heart's content.  If you saved
your venom for me Steve and left the helpless posters who are timidly
seeking help alone, I wouldn't have a problem with your behavior.

Martin Banschbach, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry and Chairman
Department of Biochemistry and Microbiology
OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
1111 West 17th St.
Tulsa, Ok. 74107


???
I've heard about that Italian guy distributing Motif binaries for 386BSD,
but I haven't heard of anybody doing the same thing for Linux.  ... and
I do follow the Linux news group pretty closely.  So, have I missed something?  I'd LOVE to get hold of Motif libs for Linux for $100!


"Space Station Redesign Leader Says Cost Goal May Be
Impossible"

Today (4/6) the Washington Post ran an article with the
headline shown above. The article starts with "A leader
of the NASA team in charge of redesigning the planned
space station said yesterday the job is tough and may
be impossible." O'Connor is quoted saying whether it is
possible to cut costs that much and still provide for
meaningful research "is a real question for me."
O'Connor said "everything is fair game," including
"dropping or curtailing existing contracts with the
aerospace industry, chopping management of the space
station program at some NASA facilities around the
country, working closely with the Russian space station
Mir, and using unmanned Titan rockets to supplement the
manned space shuttle fleet."

O'Connor says his team has reviewed 30 design options
so far, and they are sorting the serious candidates
into three categories based on cost.

The Post says O'Connor described the design derived
from the current SSF as a high cost option (I believe
Kathy Sawyer, the Post writer, got confused here. I
listened in on part of O'Connor's briefing to the press
on Monday, and in one part of the briefing O'Connor
talked about how the White House wants three options,
sorted by cost [low, medium, and high]. In another part
of the briefing, he discussed the three teams he has
formed to look at three options [SSF derivative @ LaRC,
modular buildup with Bus-1 @ MSFC, and Single Launch
Core ["wingless Orbiter"] @ JSC. Later, in response to
a reporters question, I thought I heard O'Connor say
the option based on a SSF redesign was a "moderate"
cost option, in between low & high cost options. Not
the "high cost" option as Sawyer wrote).

The article goes on to describe the other two options
as "one features modules that could gradually be fitted
together in orbit, similar to the Russian Mir. The
other is a core facility that could be deposited in
orbit in a single launch, like Skylab. That option
would use existing hardware from the space shuttle -
the fuselage, for example, in its basic structure."


Oh, come on.  Everybody on the net has heard about "plausible deniability".
You're not fooling anybody.

Note how quick Vince was to make the inference that my post claimed
that Mulroney was smiling at the baseballistics news.  This sure looks
like guilty knowledge to me...

                                    ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
I.e., the $300 grand.

The early money has to be on "Tom Tom" Bolton, who contributed that
clutch grandslam in his first appearance.  But I expect lots of
strong contenders this year, many of them right here in San Diego.


I was playing this golf game and something interesting happened.
On the 7th hole, I drove the ball down the fairway, when the ball was
in mid-flight, the game completely froze. A couple seconds later, the
screen went completely black, with an error message in large "Bubble"
letters that said DIVISION BY ZERO. I thought it was funny considering
I am a computer programmer, and I had never seen an error like this on
an actual video game system like Sega or Nintendo (or even Atari or
Intellevision years ago). Oh yeah, after the message, there was also
what must have been an address, in hexadecimal. I forget the exact hex
code that was given. HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE??? It must have,
my game shouldn't have been the only one to do this.


My family has never been particularly religious - singing Christmas
carols is about the limit for them. Thus I've never really believed in God and
heaven, although I don't actually believe that they don't exist either -
I'm sort of undecided, probably like a lot of people I guess.
        Lately I've been thinking about it all a lot more, and I wondered how
religious people can be so convinced that there is a God. I feel as though
I want to believe, but I'm not used to believing things without proof -
just as I can't believe that there definitely isn't a God, so I can't
definitely believe that there is. I wondered if most of you were brought up by
religious families and never believed any different. Can anyone help me to
understand how your belief and faith in God can be so strong.

        Another question that frequently crosses my mind is which religion is
correct?? How do you choose a religion, and how do you know that the Christian
God exists and the Gods of other religions don't?? How do you feel about
people who follow other religions?? How about atheists?? And people like me -
agnostics I suppose. Do you respect their religion, and accept their
beliefs as just as valid as your own?? Isn't there contradiction between
the religions?? How can your religion be more valid than any others?? Do
you have less respect for someone if they're not religious, or if they follow
a different religion than you would if they were Christian??

        Also, how much of the scriptures are correct?? Are all events in
the bible really supposed to have happened, or are they just supposed to be
stories with morals showing a true Christian how to behave??

        I generally follow most of the Christian ideas, which I suppose are
fairly universal throughout all religions - not killing, stealing, etc, and
'Loving my neighbour' for want of a better expression. The only part I find
hard is the actual belief in God.

        Finally, what is God's attitude to people like me, who don't quite
believe in Him, but are generally fairly 'good' people. Surely not
believing doesn't make me a worse person?? If not, I find myself wondering why
I so strongly want to really believe, and to find a religion.

        Sorry if I waffled on a bit - I was just writing ideas as they came
into my head. I'm sure I probably repeated myself a bit too.

                        Thanks for the help,
                                Paul Simmons


Does one exist, who makes it, and how much?
Thanks:)


: The Swiss population is (and well was) far larger than that. I think
: your question should be, "...losing sleep over a million expert
: riflemen?" Certainly he could have conquered Switzerland, but
: a million armed militiamen (especially in a mountainous area,
: where tanks' effectiveness is limited) would have made it a
: real pain. The question a conqueror would ask, is "is it worth
: the trouble?" The more difficult an invasion is, the more likely
: the answer would be "no." Certainly a million riflemen (as
: opposed to a professional army of only ten or twenty thousand, the
: best a country the size of Switzerland could support), makes
: invasions more difficult.

   Hitler invaded Yugoslavia and occupied it.  The mountainous portions were
sometimes patrolled by the wermacht, but they were certainly not in control.
There were two major native factions opposing each other and the germans,
It was basically useless to the germans (no production) and a drain on their
resources (a armored division and a couple of infantry divisions) Which if
my memory is correct, were kind of stuck there up until the allies accepted
their surrender.  (I think that the allies also let the germans keep some
of their weapons for self defense unitil they were able to get to the
lowlands, away from the resistance factions.  This is from memory, and
it is unreliable.


Hi, all. This is my first posting, so be gentle...

I have a Zenith external floppy which has a DB25 connector, and I'd
like to use it with my Sharp and Toshiba laptops, which also take a
DB25 for their ext floppy, but it doesn't work.  I have the pinouts
for the Zenith, and would like to make adapters so I can use it.

Does anyone have pinouts for these or other manufacturers' DB25 ext
floppy connectors?  I would greatly appreciate this info, either by
e-mail or fax.

Thanks very much,
                  Jeff, aka flyboy@coyote.trw.com
                        fax (310) 882-8800


I have to beg to differ on this point, as the batch file I use
to launch cview cd's to the dir where cview resides and then
invokes it.  every time I crash cview, the 0-byte temp file
is found in the root dir of the drive cview is on.

just my $0.13,
cb


: >After agreeing to terms I signed the contract and drove home in my new
: >car.  Later that same night I noticed that the terms in the were
: >different from the terms I had agreed to.  (I made the stupid mistake
: >of not checking everything on the contract).  This all happened last
: >Saturday.
: >
: >I have heard that there is a "cooling-off" law allowing me three days
: >to reconsider the contract.  Is this true?  Can anyone point me to the
: >law?  The transaction happened at the dealership, if it matters.
:
: This cooling off period applies only in certain situations - lik ewhen
: you are solicited at home.  I also think the cooling off period ends
: if you actually accept the merchandise.
:
: If this were not the case, any car buyer would have the right to return
: a slightly used, highly devalued, car 2 days after buying it.  Yeah -
: that's the trick - if I want to buy a new car, I'd have a firend buy
: & return one, then go in and negotiate a better deal on a pre-owned
: used car.

However, if you agree some terms, and then, when about to sign, the
dealer slips you a contract with different terms, and leads you to
believe that it embodies the terms you verbally agreed to, that
is fraud.  There is no 3 day limit on restitution for fraud.

You may have to sue (and win) to get out of this.  You will almost
certainly have to threaten to sue.
--


Where do I find the Athena Widgets that are needed for xtdm-2.4.8


[...]
henrik]  Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to drag ARMENIA into the
henrik]  KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan.

BM] Gimme a break.  CAPITAL letters, or NOT, the above is pure nonsense.  It
BM] seems to me that short sighted Armenians are escalating the hostilities
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
henrik]	Again, Armenians in KARABAKH are SIMPLY defending themselves. What do
henrik]	want them to do. Lay down their ARMS and let Azeris walk all over them.

News reports I've seen say otherwise both location and motives wise.
CAPS don't change facts.

BM] while hoping that Turkey will stay out.  Stop and think for a moment,
BM] will you?  Armenia doesn't need anyone to drag her into the conflict, it
BM] is a part of it.

henrik]   Armenians KNEW from the begining that TURKS were FULLY engaged
henrik]   training AZERIS militarily to fight against  KARABAKHI-Armenians.

So?  Should I, at this point break into caps and start talking about
DEFENSE etc.?  I don't know how 'fully engaged' Turkey is/was though.

henrik] The KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived in their HOMELAND for 3000
henrik] years (CUT OFF FROM ARMENIA and GIVEN TO AZERIS BY STALIN) are the
henrik] ones DIRECTLY involved in the CONFLICT. They are defending
henrik] themselves against AZERI AGGRESSION.

BM] Huh?  You didn't expect Azeri's to be friendly to forces fighting with them
BM]  within their borders?

henrik] Well, history is SAD. Remember, those are relocated Azeris into
henrik] the Armenian LAND of KARABAKH by the STALIN regime.

So I hear.  This justifies bloodshed N years after the fact?

henrik] At last, I hope that the U.S. insists that Turkey stay out of the
henrik] KARABAKH crisis so that the repeat of the CYPRUS invasion WILL NEVER
henrik] OCCUR again.

BM] You're not playing with a full deck, are you?  Where would Turkey invade?

henrik] It is not up to me to speculate but I am sure Turkey would have stepped
henrik] into Armenia if SHE could.

Why would Turkey do that?  Do you not realize that this is a local clash
that Turkey never wished to see happen?  Turkey has other plans for region,
like economic revival, co-operation etc.  Good stuff in other words,  I'd
be happy to bicker with Armenians over trade barriers and such on USENET
rather than 'who killed whom in what way' which I detest doing and wouldn't
do.

BM] Are you throwing the Cyprus buzzword around with s.c.g. in the header
BM] in hopes that the Greek netters will jump the gun?

henrik]	   Absolutely NOT ! I am merely trying to emphasize that in many
henrik]	   cases, HISTORY repeats itself.

Even if one buys into your implicit premise, the sane thing to do would
be to try not to provoke Turkey as was done in '74.  If there'd been
a democratic government instead of a bunch of idiots in Athens at the
time, everybody would have stayed home with their families.  [I have no
wish to go into the Cyprus quarrel, but I suspect what I've said is not
only accurate but also palatable to all parties involved]

BM] Yes indeed Turkey has the military prowess to intervene, what she wishes
BM] she had, however, is the diplomatic power to stop the hostilities and bring
BM] the parties to the negotiating table.  That's hard to do when Armenians
BM] are attacking Azeri towns.

henrik]	   So, let me understand in plain WORDS what you are saying; Turkey
henrik]	   wants a PEACEFUL END to this CONFLICT. NOT !!

So what do you think we want?  War, death and destruction?

henrik]	   I will believe it when I see it.

No, if you allow yourself to believe it you just might see it.

henrik]  Now, as far as attacking, what do you do when you see a GUN pointing
henrik]to your HEAD ? Do you sit there and WATCH or DEFEND yoursef(fat chance)?

This kind of childish rhetoric doesn't help anthing.

henrik]  Do you remember what Azeris did to the Armenians in BAKU ? All the
henrik]  BARBERIAN ACTS especially against MOTHERS and their CHILDREN. I mean
henrik]  BURNING people ALIVE !

Now, some Azeri will come out and give a description of similar stuff
perpetrated by Armenians.  One should re-hash stuff like this often to
keep the hatred alive, right?

BM] Armenian leaders are lacking the statesmanship to recognize the
BM]futility of armed conflict and convince their nation that a compromise that
BM] leads to stability is much better than a military faits accomplis that's
BM] going to cause incessant skirmishes.

henrik]	   Armenians in KARABAKH want PEACE and their own republic. They are
henrik]	   NOT asking much. They simply want to get back what was TAKEN AWAY
henrik]	   from them and GIVEN to AZERIS by STALIN.

Well they obviously aren't getting anywhere with their current methods
of asking (not very peaceful I'd say).

BM] Think of 10 or 20 years down the line -- both of the newly independent
BM] countries need to develop economically and neither one is going to wipe
BM] the other out.   These people will be neighbors, would it not be better
BM] to keep the bad blood between them minimal?

henrik]	   Don't get me WRONG. I also want PEACEFUL solution to the
henrik]	   conflict. But until Azeris realize that, the Armenians in
henrik]	   KARABAKH will defend themselves against aggresion.

I don't know if you want a solution or just want to exchange slogans.
Peace isn't what's happening right now, furthermore what's happening
right now isn't condusive to peace.  You can spend days and nights
raving about how 'right' the Armenian position is and I'm sure
there'll be others who'd be happy to talk to you by arguing the other
side.  If entrenched positions lead to war, and if people want peace
than they should sit down and talk about a compromise.  Armenia isn't
strong enough to exercise the 'we think we're right, and we have the
bombs, so we'll do whatever we want, so there...' style of foreign
relations.  Yes you can type Stalin in caps, and give one sided
atrocity stories etc. but for peace you need to be willing to talk to
the other side.  You personally can choose not to do that of course,
this being just USENET.  The people in power shouldn't be so childish.

BM] If you belong to the Armenian diaspora, keep in mind that what strikes
BM] your fancy on the map is costing the local Armenians dearly in terms of
BM] their blood and future.

henrik]	   Again, you are taking different TURNS. Armenia HAS no intension
henrik]	   to GRAB any LAND from Azerbaijan. The Armenians in KARABAKH
henrik]	   are simply defending themselves UNTIL a solution is SET.

Azeri's would disagree with you on this, and the maps I've seen support
what they'd be saying.  It doesn't seem likely that a solution will be
reached in this manner.

BM] It's easy to be comfortable abroad and propagandize
BM] craziness to have your feelings about Turks tickled.  The Armenians
BM] in Armenia and N-K will be there, with the same people you seem to hate
BM] as their neighbors, for maybe 3000 years more.  The sooner there's peace in
BM] the region the better it is for them and everyone else.  I'd push for
BM] compromise if I were you instead of hitting the caps-lock and spreading
BM] inflammatory half-truths.

henrik]   It is NOT up to me to decide the PEACE initiative. I am absolutely
henrik]   for it.

It didn't look it when I read your posting.  It would seem to me
that if you can spew mis-information about a boogey-man, you can also
talk about how one might avoid the nastiness.  Fair?

henrik] But, in the meantime, if you do not take care of yourself,
henrik] you will be WIPED out. Such as the case in the era of 1915-20 of
henrik] The Armenian Massacres.

You don't realize I can say the same thing about 'The Turkish Massacres.'
Yes, boys and girls, let's always talk about how bad and nasty things were.
Let's do that so we're overwhelmed by anger, and let's do that so our
kids will also be hateful.  Sounds crazy doesn't it?  Don't do it then.


Hi,
    I have a piece of X code that compiles fine on pmax-ul4, pmax_mach, as
well as sun4_mach, but whenever it compiles on sun4_411, it gives me
undefined ld errors:
_sin
_cos
_pow
_floor
_get_wmShellWidgetClass
_get_applicationShellWidgetClass

The following libraries that I linked it to are:
-lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11

The makefile is generated off an imake template.
Can anyone give me pointers as to what I'm missing out to compile on
a sun4_411?


I have an addition to the FAQ regarding "why are there no atheist
hospitals."

If I recall correctly, Johns Hopkins was built to provide medical
services without the "backing" of a religious group...thus making it a
hospital "dedicated to the glory of [weak] atheism."

Might someone check up on this?


You are right in supposing that the problem is with the XmNcolormap
(XtNcolormap for truly literate beings) not being set.  What you want
to do is start your application with your new colormap.  This can be a
chicken and egg sort of problem, however.  If you look at the Xt FAQ
there is an example that should show how it can be done.  If not, let
me know and maybe I can improve the example.

--pete


I am working on an X-Window based application that needs to
override some of the window manager focus processing.  I am
using X11R4 and Motif 1.1 currently, although I will also be
working with Open Look in the future.

     What I need to do is under certain circumstances prevent the
user from switching from one window of the application to
another window.  Let's say, for example, that Window A is on top
of Window B in the window hierarchy.  Normally, if the user clicks
the mouse in Window B it will be brought to the top of the
window hierarchy and placed on top of Window A.  Under certain
circumstances if the user clicks the mouse in Window B I need to
beep and prevent Window B from being raised on top of Window
A.

      From the research and testing I've done so far, it appears that
this window ordering is handled by the window manager, in this
case Motif.  I haven't found any way to override this default
processing through standard X Window functions.  I can tell
when this switching occurs through focus change and mapping
notify events, but I can't find any way to tell Motif not to make the
switch.

      The temporary solution I've currently come up with is very
kludgy but it partially works.  When I detect such a window switch
in those cases when the switch is not allowed, I manually force
the formerly top window back on top with an XRaiseWindow call
and beep with the XBell function.  This provides the necessary
functionality but looks ugly when the windows switch places
twice.

      Does anyone know how I can tell Motif (or preferably *any*
window manager) when I don't want the window order switch to
actually take place?  Respond either by e-mail or posting to this
newsgroup.

Cheers....     Randall


There are many teams in the NHL who have taken a liking to Russian players.
The "whole Russian strategy" is not specific to Detroit or to Devellano,
who was GM before Murray.  What the previous GM also did was to trade
away several players who have gone on to do well with other teams, most
notably (in my memory) Murray Craven, who had a few very good years with
Philly after leaving here.  Also, it's not the volume of trades that will
necessarily improve a team, but the quality of them.  Trading Adam Oates
for Bernie Federko was just plain stupid, even if Federko used to be a
great player at one time.  Most of Murray's trades have worked significantly
to the Wings' advantage, with those that didn't being soured mainly by
injury to the players involved (such as Troy Crowder, who suffered back
problems from which he never really recovered).

Put Scotty Bowman, Pat Burns, or any of the other better coaches in the
league behind the bench of this Detroit team, and they could beat anybody.


Well, OBP is the most important offensive statistic, and by a big margin.
50 points of OBP is worth considerably more than 50 points of slugging.
That being said, I still think Baerga was VERY SLIGHTLY better last year,
but I think this is as close to a wash as you're likely to find.

I personally don't care much for Alomar's defense.  I don't think he's
nearly as good as people make him out to be, and he can't turn the DP
to save his life.  He comes across the bag improperly, and his release
is slow.  Considering the high leverage of the DP, this is a shortcoming
I can't overlook.  In the long term, I'd move Alomar to another position.

If the Jays could trade a hot Devon White for something, I'll be Alomar
could be a hell of a CF.  In the long run, I think I'd rather have Jeff
Kent at 2B and Alomar in CF than Alomar/White.


Another person incapable of rational thought!


I haven't been following the previous HR's.  But there are two, that I saw
live that would have to be up there (up where? there!).
1) Rick Monday's HR to bury the Expos in the NL championship in 1981.
It was hit off Steve Rogers, who is a RHP and primarily a starter.
Why was he used as a reliever when the 'Spos had Reardon and BillLee
warming up in the bullpen.  Considering Monday couldn't touch LHP,
Lee would have been a safe bet.  He wasn't even doing any drugs at that
time (or so he told me and around 50 others on a recent venture into
Montreal.  The blast wasn't the important aspect.  It was the timing.
Seventh game, a tie game, and in the top of the 9th.  The Expos almost
came back though...
2) Mike Schmidt hit one that killed the Expos in 1980.  So close, yet, so
far.
and
3) Strawberry killed a pitch on the second day of the season a couple of
years ago.  It went off the technical ring in the Big O.  It almost left
the stadium!  That was hit HARD!!!
				CorelMARK!


What's your favorite body part? :-)


I am using DOS Quick C 2.5 in a DOS window under Windows 3.1, and the other
day while I was running the compiler, I got a general protection fault
immediately followed by a "serious disk error".  When I rebooted, I found
that about 15 files had gotten "cross-linked" which is a pretty serious
corruption of the hard drive file system.

I am concerned that Quick C in a DOS window has somehow strayed outside
its protected mode world and corrupted the smartdrv.exe disk cache and
that is what caused the disk problem.

I thought that DOS programs run in DOS windows were pretty well-contained
by Windows.  If that is true, then maybe the Quick C compiler has nothing
to do with it.  Has anybody else had this type of problem?

(I only recently "upgraded" from Quick C 2.0 to 2.5.)

Brad Banko


: >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,
: >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other
: >team captain trivia would be appreciated.
;
: Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to
: Pittsburgh?

  And Rick Tochett was the captain of the Flyers when traded to the Pens
recently...

Caleb

And let us not forget that the New Jersey Devils traded
captain Kirk Muller for Stephen Richer and Chorske


The FLYERS blew a 3-0 lead over the Buffalo Sabres in the second period, but
Kevin Dineen's 7th career hat trick powered them to their 7th consecutive win,
7-4 over the Sabres who have now lost 7 in a row. Alexander Mogilny led the
comeback scoring his 75th and 76th goals of the season which tied the game at
3 in the 2nd period and 4 in the 3rd. Tommy Soderstrom stopped 41 of 45 shots
on goal to improve his own record to 20-17-6 as he was tested by Mogilny and
LaFontaine all night.

Roster move:

Andre Faust was once again recalled from Hershey, Shawn Cronin was a healthy
scratch.

Lines:

Eklund-Lindros-Recchi
Beranek-Brind'Amour-Dineen
Lomakin-Butsayev-Conroy
Faust-Acton-Brown

Galley-Bowen
Yushkevich-Hawgood
Carkner-McGill

Tommy Soderstrom

Game Summary:

Say, if anybody from Buffalo is reading this, where did you people get that
woman who sang the anthems? We had to turn down the volume!

The FLYERS defense started out the game showing everybody why the FLYERS have
been shutting teams out lately by holding the Sabres to only 8 shots in the
first period. They then showed everybody why they will be playing golf Sunday
when they gave up 37 shots in the last two periods. Maybe Tommy told them that
he was getting bored back there...

Mark Recchi opened the scoring so fast that if you blinked you missed it. After
Buffalo won the faceoff and dumped, Tommy wrapped the puck around the boards
to Eric 1/2 way up on his left. Eric dropped it to Galley, and he sent it ahead
to Recchi steaming out of the zone. Mark skated into the center circle, passed
the puck to himself through the legs of Richard Smehlik, skated around him and
in on Fuhr. Smehlik was pulling at him all the way through the zone with his
stick, Recchi drifted right, drifted back left, and slid the puck back to the
right past Fuhr for a 1-0 FLYERS lead at 0:18. It was so beautiful Eric and
Garry should turn down their assists :-).

The FLYERS kept the pressure on Fuhr for a while after that, but he was strong
and kept the FLYERS from doing further damage. The game then became a defensive
struggle for a while. The Sabres got the first chance on the power play when
Terry Carkner took a boarding minor at 10:26 for crunching Dale Hawerchuk into
the boards in the FLYERS zone. LaFontaine got the only scoring chance, and not
a terribly good one, as the FLYERS smothered the Sabres power play. Mogilny got
a post after it was over. The 25th consecutive penalty kill for the FLYERS.

Keith Carney took a holding penalty at 13:31 for taking down Mark Recchi to
give the FLYERS a power play. The best penalty killing team in the league
didn't allow the FLYERS a shot on goal, although the FLYERS did create a
good scoring chance for Lindros who partially fanned on his shot. Towards
the end of the period the play started going end to end, but everybody kept
missing the net. Greg Hawgood took an interference penalty at 18:19 to give
the Sabres another power play, but they couldn't get anything going and the
fans expressed their displeasure, particularly when they iced the puck. Shots
were 8-6 Buffalo after the FLYERS had led 6-2 at one point.

Mike Emrick interviewed FLYERS president Jay Snider between periods. Jay was
disappointed to not make the playoffs, but not discouraged. This was considered
a rebuilding year after *The Trade* and he seemed very happy with the way the
season went. When asked if he agonized over *The Trade* he said that it was
Russ Farwell's trade and not his, that it only was an issue for him and Ed
Snider as far as the money. But yes, there was some agonizing, and they'd do
it all over again. When asked how the coaching situation would be handled for
next year he said that it's Russ' call, and Russ will evaluate things at the
end of the season. He feels that they're 3 years away from a shot at the Cup.
He expects to get into the playoffs next year, have a shot at a division title
the following year, and a shot at the finals the year after that. This based
on the current level of play and anticipated improvements over the summer.

He's very happy with the re-alignment (he called it "outstanding"). Happy with
the current expansion, feels that the talent pool is big enough with the unflux
of Europeans, but feels that they must make sure existing franchises are stable.
Seemed to like the idea of playing in the Olympics (booo) but said that there
was a definite split among owners and that this certainly would only happen in
four years if there was a consensus.

The Sabres gave the FLYERS their second power play of the game when Brad May
took a tripping penalty at 0:51 of the second. The FLYERS had a little trouble
getting started, but eventually did. Hawgood took a pass as he was moving
throug the neutral zone and handed the puck to Eklund just outside the Sabres
blue line along the right boards. Eklund carried into the zone nad passed
across to Dineen who tried a one timer from between the blue line and the
top of the left circle. He half fanned on it, and sent the puck trickling
through the slot. Fuhr didn't know where it was, though, and Hawgood won the
race to it and flipped it into essentially an open net at 2:15.

Then Mogilny on a breakaway. He slipped through two FLYERS at the blue line
and went in on Soderstrom. He went with the backhander, but Soderstrom was
all over it.

The FLYERS then took some bad discipline type penalties that really hurt them.
Viacheslav Butsayev took a double minor for roughing and high sticking when
Barnaby got under his skin and drew one minor, then according to Gary Dornhoefer
took a dive to get the other (there was no video) at 4:22. The Sabres coudln't
get started. Ryan McGill poked at the puck just after a Sabre carried into the
FLYERS zone, and after a bunch of people poked at it Dineen emerged with it and
headed the other way. It started out a 1 on 1, but Brind'Amour hustled ahead to
make it a 2 on 1 and back off the defenseman. Dineen let it rip from the top
of the right circle to make it 3-0 FLYERS at 5:40. That was all for Fuhr, John
Muckler sent in Dominik Hasek to take over.

But the Sabres still had lots of power play time. Again they took some time to
just get into the FLYERS zone, and when they finally did the FLYERS were all
over them. Boos began to ring through the building. But they finally got through
Soderstrom on an ugly goal. Smehlik took a shot from the top of the zone that
missed and kicked out to Hawerchuk in the slot. Hawerchuk tried a backhander as
he skated towards the goal line to the right as Galley dove down to block it.
Mistake #1, he should have let Soderstrom handle the backhander and worried
about A) the rebound or B) Barnaby who was camped behind the goal line right
next to the net. Well, the rebound dropped right next to Soderstrom, and
mistake #2, Galley just laid there and watched Barnaby get THREE hacks at the
puck before he finally pushed it through the goalie. He didn't even swing his
stick out to try and knock the puck away. With the goal, at 7:48, two streaks
end for the FLYERS. 150:28 of shutout hockey, and 27 straight penalty kills.

Lindros put them right back on the power play at 8:36 with a high sticking
minor, I think it was Barnaby again. This time the Sabres were able to get
set up quickly, but couldn't get too much quality on goal. The Sabres continued
to keep the puck in the FLYERS end for a while after the power play ended.
Things evetually settled down, but then the other very bad penalty. McGill
allowed Barnaby to get under his skin and slashed his stick just before a
faceoff. The gloves were dropped, and McGill started pounding the crap out of
him. But during the fight, he gave Barnaby a head butt with his helmet, and
that meant a match penalty. 2 for slashing, 5 fighting and 5 for the major,
7 minutes of power play time for the Sabres at 14:15, Barnaby only got 5.

The FLYERS were keeping them at bay for a while, but there was only so long
they could do that. After a couple of good Sabre chances, Audette handed to
Ledyard at the point, and Ledyard sent a drive that was knocked down by
Soderstrom. LaFontaine whacked at the bouncing puck from the left side of
the net, and knocked it over to Randy Wood at the right. Soderstrom had
moved over to play LaFontaine, and since Yushkevich and Carkner were waving
at the puck instead of picking up men, Wood just slid it into the empty net
at 17:34 to close the FLYERS lead to 3-2. LaFontaine was actually trying to
put it on net, but half fanned on it and got a break.

The FLYERS then got some shorthanded pressure in the Sabres zone, but Hasek
was strong. Finally it was Keith Carney passing ahead to Hawerchuk into the
neutral zone, and Hawerchuk sent a good backhand pass to Mogilny at the FLYERS
blue line. Another mini-breakaway for Mogilny, he elected to shoot from the
left circle, and he threaded the needle to get it just inside the far post at
18:56 for his 75th of the season. Ironically, the youth hockey tip between
the 1st and second period was Tommy Soderstrom talking about cutting off
angles...

That was all in the 2nd, shots were 19-7 Sabres.

Into the 3rd period, and Pelle EKlund blew a golden opportunity to get the
FLYERS the lead back. A 2 on 1, Acton with the puck, he dropped to Eklund in
the slot, and Eklund held the puck as he slid through the left circle until
he had almost no angle at all to shoot from. When he finally did shoot, he
hit the far post. That was still during the carryover power play time.

Than an incredible almost goal. Randy Wood skated around Recchi and Hawgood
untouched into Soderstrom. Soderstrom goes down, Wood pokes the puck under
Soderstrom, and a black object hits the back of the net. Red light comes on,
horn sounds, crowd cheers. But up to the video replay booth, for some strange
reason, and in the meantime Emrick and Dornhoefer try to figure out what they
could be reviewing. Well, it turns out that it was the taped up stick blade
that went into the net, not the puck. Emrick mentions that one of the criteria
for scoring a goal is that the puck must go into the net...

Dave Hannan then took out Recchi and got a holding minor at 2:35. The FLYERS
could not get anything going at all. They finally got set up 1/2 way through,
but were kept on the perimeter. As time ran out, Beranek stripped the puck
from a Sabre in the offensive zone along the right boards and passed it across
to Eklund at the top of the left circle. Eklund saw Dineen heading at the net
just inside the right circle and passed through to him. Dineen fumbled the pass,
but twice directed it at Hasek, and Eklund swooped in and chipped the bouncing
puck over the goalie for his 11th at 4:42. 4-3 FLYERS.

But the Sabres came right back. LaFontaine picked up the puck in his offensive
left corner and slid it to Bob Erry behind the FLYERS net. Erry started to skate
out, but then just dropped the puck back to nobody behind the net. Mogilny flew
in, skated around, and stuffed it through Soderstrom's 5 hole for his 76th at
5:24 to tie the game at 4.

Then Hawerchuk took a retaliatory roughing penalty at 5:55. The FLYERS set up
in the Sabres zone, and stayed there. Off a faceoff high in the Sabres zone in
the middle. While Brind'Amour wrestled for the puck, Dineen snuck through the
line and wristed a perfect shot low to Hasek's glove side at 6:44.

Play started to go back and forth until Hawgood took a roughing penalty at 8:19.
The FLYERS dumped the puck into the Sabres zone. Brind'Amour and Ledyard went
after it, and Rod got the puck. He backed away from the right boards, skated
to the right faceoff dot, and passed between his legs to Dineen crashing
through the slot all by himself. Dineen waited patiently and lifted it over
the blocker of Hasek for a 6-4 FLYERS lead at 8:39. 3rd hat trick of the season
for Dineen, 7th of his career, 2nd shorthanded goal of the game for him 35th
of the season.

Then Carney took a tripping penalty at 9:02 to kill the rest of the Sabres
power play. Not much action on the 4 on 4, and the Sabres got most of the
chances on the FLYERS resulting power play.

Play went end to end for quite a while after that and both goalies had to
make some big saves. The Sabres weren't able to pull Hasek as time was running
out as the FLYERS wouldn't allow any consistant possession for the Sabres.
Finally as time was running out Ken Sutton misplayed the puck in his own left
corner and Brind'Amour stripped it away from him. He pulled away and found
Dineen on the other side of the left circle, and Dineen found Acton at the
right of Hasek. He slid the puck between two Sabres defenders, and Acton
chipped it back to the far side of Hasek for his 8th of the season at 19:48
on his 35th birthday. That was all the scoring, shots were 18-13 Buffalo,
and the ice was showered with plastic drinking mugs handed out before the
game.

So another strong game from Tommy Soderstrom who hadn't been tested much
in his last couple of starts. Kevin Dineen has a career high 6 point night
(unless he had a better night earlier in the season, but I don't think so).
The FLYERS longest winning streak in 3 years, 30 goals for only 11 against
with three shutouts. Eric Lindros is 8th in league with 33 even strength goals
despite missing 23 games with injury. 4 points out of 4th, clinched 5th place
since the Rangers lose the tie breaker.

A couple misc notes:

Forget the Mike Keenan rumors, there will be a press conference tommorrow to
announce that he will be head coach of the New York Rangers next year.

In the last notes I mentioned that Garry Galley won the Barry Ashbee Award,
but I failed to mention that the award is for the best defenseman.

The Times of Trenton has reported that "a preeminent specialist from Oklahoma"
has looked over Tommy Soderstrom's medical record and determined that no
further tests are necessary in the near future.

Same paper had a blurb about Bill Dineen being asked about whether or not he
expected to be back next year. His response was that he wants to come back,
he feels he did a good job this year, but that he would cheerfully accept a
role scouting if Farwell didn't want him back.

FLYERS team record watch:

Eric Lindros:

41 goals, 33 assists, 74 points

(rookie records)
club record goals:			club record points:
Eric Lindros	40 1992-93		Dave Poulin	76 1983-84
Brian Propp	34 1979-80		Brian Propp	75 1979-80
Ron Flockhart	33 1981-82		Eric Lindros	74 1992-93
Dave Poulin	31 1983-84		Ron Flockhart	72 1981-82
Bill Barber	30 1972-73		Pelle Eklund	66 1985-86

Mark Recchi:

52 goals, 69 assists, 121 points.

club record goals:			club record points:
Reggie Leach	61 1975-76		Mark Recchi	121 1992-93*
Tim Kerr	58 1985-86,86-87	Bobby Clarke	119 1975-76
Tim Kerr	54 1983-84,84-85	Bobby Clarke	116 1974-75
Mark Recchi	52 1992-93		Bill Barber	112 1975-76
Rick Macliesh	50 1972-73		Bobby Clarke	104 1972-73
Bill Barber	50 1975-76		Rick Macliesh	100 1972-73
Reggie Leach	50 1979-80

*More than 80 games.

FLYERS career years:

Player		Points	Best Prior Season
Mark Recchi	121	113 (90-91 Penguins)
Rod Brind'Amour	84	77 (91-92 FLYERS)
Garry Galley	62	38 (84-85 Kings)
Brent Fedyk	59	35 (90-91 Red Wings)

That's all for now...


DM> Fact or rumor....?  Madalyn Murray O'Hare an atheist who eliminated the
DM> use of the bible reading and prayer in public schools 15 years ago is now
DM> going to appear before the FCC with a petition to stop the reading of the
DM> Gospel on the airways of America.  And she is also campaigning to remove
DM> Christmas programs, songs, etc from the public schools.  If it is true
DM> then mail to Federal Communications Commission 1919 H Street Washington DC
DM> 20054 expressing your opposition to her request.  Reference Petition number

DM> 2493.

False.  This story has been going around for years.  There's not a drop of
truth.  Note that I don't care for O'Hare (O'Hair?) myself, but this
is one thing she's not guilty of.


   >Does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks
   >for sounding rockets?

   Well, first you work out how much cold gas you need, then make the
   tanks big enough.

Our sounding rocket payload, with telemetry, guidance, etc. etc. and a
telescope cluster, weighs around 1100 pounds.  It uses freon jets for
steering and a pulse-width-modulated controller for alignment (ie
during our eight minutes in space, the jets are pretty much
continuously firing on a ~10% duty cycle or so...).  The jets also
need to kill residual angular momentum from the spin stabilization, and
flip the payload around to look at the Sun.

We have two freon tanks, each holding ~5 liters of freon (I'm speaking
only from memory of the last flight).  The ground crew at WSMR choose how
much freon to use based on some black-magic algorithm.  They have
extra tank modules that just bolt into the payload stack.

This should give you an idea of the order of magnitude for cold gas
quantity.  If you really need to know, send me email and I'll try to get you
in touch with our ground crew people.

Cheers,
Craig


I am curious if anyone in net-land has spent any time at any of the L'Abri
houses throughout the world and what the experience was like, how it affected
you, etc.  Especially interesting would be experiences at the original L'Abri
in Switzerland and personal interactions with Francis and/or Edith Schaeffer.


][bozo posts GIFS to rec.moto]
]>he and his postmaster are also gonna get 500 copies of the post in their
]>mailboxes.
]
]   Hey, it's a great picture.  You can't fault his taste, only his
]technique.  Chill out and educate instead of getting your panties in a
]bunch.

ditto to you Dave. I'm using the picture as the bacground on my sun, and
I haven't sent a single message to the guy. looks like you get to keep the
panties.

--
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org                                 Austin, TX


I was wondering if the FAQ files could be posted quarterly rather than monthly.  Every 28-30 days, I get this bloated feeling.


Just kidding


@EID:B486 85210000
I have a 120 mb hard drive. What should I set the compression ratio at
using DOS'S double disk? Do I have to format erase everything to double
the full 120 mb to 240? Can I just make a mirror of my hard drive? Thanx
4 the help!

Darren Lavallee


I have the following items for sale.

Rabbit PIP tuner
SoloFlex-like gym
Scanner (800 Mhz)
CB Antenna
Blazer/Jimmy running boards

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Rabbit PIP (picture-in-picture) Box.

This device when used with a VCR tuner will allow you to
have a second channel popped up on any corner of the screen.
The you can press SWAP on the remote and the small picture
will be swapped with the main picture.

The only limitation to this box is that it is has 36 channel
tuner. This means that the box itself cannot tune higher
than cable channel 36. However, if your VCR tuner is capable
of tuning higher than this, then you simply tune the VCR to the
channel desired and then swap pictures (assuming the alternate
picture is channel 36 or lower) and it will work fine.

Original cost: $149
Will sell for:  $75

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Running boards for Jimmy or Blazer

Brand new black running boards for the S10/15 models. I purchased them
and realized that I could not use (after return period expired) them
because of wheel trim that I have installed on my vehicle.

Original cost: $125
Will sell for: $ 65

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Regency MX4200 20-Channel Scanner
Recieves cellular frequencies (800-950 mhz) along
with 7 other bands. Brand new Ni-Cad battery pack.

Original Cost: $249
Will sell for: $135

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GYN/Plex model 2000 workout Gym, similar to Solo-Flex

This gym is similar to Solo-Flex in that it uses resistance
bands to increase the effective lifting weight. It is all black
and made of steel. I have an extra set of bands that I purchased
that will be included.

Original cost: $349
Will sell for: $125

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Big Stick CB Antenna for 27 Mhz band.

Will sell for: $30

Because of weight or or other difficulty, last 2 items
for Atlanta area only please.

I will share non-COD shipping charges.

Thanks

Manny