iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes...

More along the lines of Hebrews 12:25-29, I reckon...

	See that you refuse not him that speaks. For if they
	escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much
	more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that
	speaks from heaven:

	Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he has promised,
	saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also
	heaven.

	And this word, Yet once more, signifies the removing of
	those things that are shaken, as of things that are made,
	that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

	Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved,
	let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably
	with reverence and godly fear:

	For our God is a consuming fire.

Or 2nd Thessalonians 1:7-10...

	And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord
	Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
 	In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
	and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

	Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from
	the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
 	When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be
	admired in all them that believe (because our testimony
	among you was believed) in that day.

Kinda gives Flaming a whole new meaning, I reckon.

			      - < > -

The impression I got from talking with Livingston was that the coming
of the Lord, power-wise, is going to be something that those who are
unprepared can't handle -- kinda like overloading a fuse -- due to
guilt. Somehow it seems to also apply to the entire physical world as
we know it. LF suggests that God doesn't want that and has sent Koresh
as a reminder.

Seems that those who have been purified through salvation, or that those
protected by the Seals, will be the ones who survive. And no -- I don't
have a good idea yet what "being shielded by the seals" actually involves
or how exactly it relates to salvation. (Other than it involves the
marriage of the Bridegroom and the Bride... for those of you Biblical
well versed.)
			     - < > -

Me personally, I'm totally 100% dependent on God through Christ, so
if God wants me to understand, good. If not, also good. If God wants
to save me, or dispose of me, that's great either way. Being born in
the Spirit, means being part of the Body of Christ (Ephesians 2), so
who and what I was, matters little. * What's important is loving GOD *

Come Nova, Nuke, or Apocalypse -- who cares? Satan might even be able
to pull off a pretty convincing fake. Big deal. Not worth fearing or
worrying about though, not before:

		   -* The Greater Glory of GOD *-

Maybe Koresh is right, maybe he isn't, and it should be interesting to
see the new message (or prophecy). The tour of the Bible I've taken in
studying the passages he points to in the 3-02 text, has been most re-
warding. But the test of prophecy is still the fruit it bears -- which
is not yet clear.

Much much more important is "Charity" -- which by definition *is* --

	                   Love for GOD

(I hope Dear Reader, you've taken all this as an expression of faith,
 and not a statement of mere fact. Seems many folks get real upset at
 reminders. ;-)


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Heres a story of a Saint that people might like to read. I got it from
a The Morning Star, and am posting it with the permission of the
editor.

    Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

    The Patron of Youth

    The marquis Gonzaga had high aspirations for his son, the  Prince
    Gonzage.  He  wanted  him  to become a famous, brave and honoured
    soldier. After all, he must carry on the  great  family  name  of
    Gonzaga.  Of  course, he was to become far more famous, brave and
    honoured than his father could ever have imagined; though not  in
    the manner expected.

    Saint Aloysius' mother was a woman who received immense joy  from
    praying  to  God  and  meditating on the divine mysteries and the
    life of Our Lord. She had little time for the pleasures  of  this
    life.  As  Saint  Aloysius	grew, he began to resemble his mother
    more than his father.

    Saint Aloysius had learned numerous expressions from his father's
    soldiers,  but the moment he discovered that they were vulgar, he
    fainted from shock. This shows his immense hatred of sin (What an
    example for us of the contempt we must have for sin).

    About the time of his First Holy  Communion  (which  he  received
    from  the  Archbishop  of  Milan,  Charles Borromeo, whom himself
    became a great Saint), he con-secrated  his  purity  to  God  and
    asked the Blessed Virgin to protect his innocence for life.

    He wanted to share Our Lord's suffering to	show  his  reciprocal
    love.  He  started by denying his passions; he avoided eating the
    finest foods, wearing the best clothes, and would put  pieces  of
    wood  in his bed in order to mortify himself for the love of God.
    While he was in his early teens his  father  sent  him  (and  his
    younger  brother)  to  the court of the Spanish King, Phillip 11.
    Obediently, he set out to make the best of it. He mixed  in  well
    with  the people of the royal court, for he was handsome, polite,
    intelligent and always had something interesting to say.

    Not long before this time, the great soldier-saint,  Saint	Igna-
    tius  of  Loyola,  had founded the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits)
    towards which Saint Aloysius

				  -12-

    began to have a yearning. When he finally told  his  father,  the
    marquis flew into a rage and forbade his son to become a priest.

    After a short time, his father sent him to the  great  cities  in
    order that he be tempted away from the priesthood, but even

    through these trials, Saint Aloysius grew in his desire  for  the
    religious life and was strengthened in the virtue of purity.

    The Marquis' plans were obviously failing, so he con-fronted  his
    son:  "Will  you or will you not obey me and forget this foolish-
    ness?" "I will not, father," was the  in-evitable  reply.	"Then
    leave from my sight and don't return until you change your mind!"
    With tears clouding his eyes, the Saint left the  room  to	pray:
    "Tell  me Lord, what am I to do? Tell me! Tell me!" He knelt down
    to flagellate himself as he had done several  times  before,  but
    this  time	he was seen. The onlooker rushed to the marquis. This
    at last brought the proud man to his senses. "The Lord wants him,
    the Lord can have him." He gave his consent for his son to become
    a Jesuit.

    After some years (at the end of the sixteenth century), a  terri-
    ble  epidemic  broke out in Rome. All the hospitals were full and
    could house no more, so the Jesuits opened their own. Saint Aloy-
    sius  did  all he could in the hospitals, particularly to prepare
    the dying for a holy death.

    Saint Aloysius himself contracted the plague  from	carrying  and
    nursing  the  sick.  For three months he lay with a burning fever
    and finally, on June 21st, 1591, he gave his  soul	to  the  Lord
    while gazing at a crucifix.

    Let us invoke Saint Aloysius as our patron and imitate him in his
    humility, purity and confidence in prayer.

    Saint Aloysius Gonzaga, pray for us.

    - Brendan Arthur

    Prayer is as necessary to a person consecrated to the service  of
    others as a sword is to a soldier

God Bless

From Simon
Lines:  106


Yeah, of course... The term 'mach banding' was not the correct one, it should've
been 'color quantization effect'. Although a bad color quantization effect could
result in some visible mach-bands on a picture that was smooth before it was
quantizised.


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internal drive, model M26525A
(uses either a SCSI or EDI interface on your disk controller card)
brand new, still in box, never used

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Looking at [1] we find that during Roman times "Tyre vied with Sidon
for first place in the intellectual life of the period"; that Tyre was
the seat of a Christian bishop, eventually with 14 dioceses under it;
that "the most magnificent church of its kind in all Phoenecia" was the
basilica built in Tyre ca. 314; that Tyre was well known for its
exports of glassware, wine, white marble, and dyed cloth; that Tyre,
along with other seaports, "provided outlets for South Arabian, Indian
and even Chinese trade"; that Tyre had to accomodate its growing
population by "following a perpendicular, rather than horizontal, line
of growth" (because it was running out of land to build on); that Tyre
established colonies of its own.  None of this sounds like a "small
fishing village" by any stretch of the imagination.

Centuries later, under the Abbasids, Tyre had "opulent and flourishing
bazaars" and buildings of 5-6 stories.  During this period, Tyre was
"noted for its export of sugar, beads, and, as of old, glassware."
During the Crusades, Tyre was the second-most flourishing city held
by Franks.  (There is a lot more, but I got tired of writing.)

In [2] we read the following description of modern Lebanon: "other
*major cities* in Lebanon include Tripoli, Sidon, Tyre, Baalbek and
Zahlah."  [my emphasis]  This source also discusses the impact of
the Lebanese Civil War, and the Israeli military actions (1978, 1982)
on the trading ports of Tyre and Sidon.  It notes that after Israel's
withdrawel in 1984, "Tyre appeared to enjoy a revival of its local
economy."

If Tyre is such an insignificant little fishing village at present,
why is it always called a city (or, above, a "major city")?  Why
does it show up on all the maps?   When population figures for cities
in Lebanon are given, why is Tyre always one of the cities on the
list (even if the list is only a dozen cities long)?

[1] Philip K. Hitti, _Lebanon in History: From the earliest times to
the present_, NY, St. Martins, 1967.

[2] Federal Research Division, Library of Congress, _Lebanon: a
country study_, edited by Thomas Collelo, 1989.

A one-horse town?  Sounds like a lot of work for one horse.
(Anyway, Tyre is connected by roads to the mainland.  They
may even use cars these days. :-)

The 1991 Encyclopedia Britannica says "Pop. (1982 est.) 23,000."
Most other references give figures in the 14-17 thousand range.
(One atlas gives the population of Tyre as 60,000; the same
source give comparatively high figures for Sidon and Beirut, also,
so I doubt that it is a typo.  Perhaps these were figures for
the cities and their surrounding areas.)  I don't doubt that the
population of Tyre has fluctuated over the last few decades.  In
particular, the 1982 Israeli military action hurt Tyre quite a bit.

I thought you were talking about times that Tyre was destroyed.
Don't most, if not all, of these apply not just to Tyre but to
the other cities in the area?  Sidon, for example?  Can you make
a case for Tyre having been singled out?

They had a good deal of autonomy under the Seleucids. From [2]:
Tyre "receiv[ed] the rights [of autonomy] from Antiochus Ephiphanes
and from 125 BC onward enjoy[ed] complete autonomy. She started a
large series of coins, occasionally in gold ..."

The descriptions of Tyre under the Romans don't seem to fit
your characterization, either.  And under the Abbasids it seems
to have been allowed to flourish.  I still think you are stretching
when you try to describe Tyre as having been nothing but a small
fishing village.

A Christian apologist whose standards of scholarship are quite low.
He happens to quote the same source you quote (Nina Jidejian,
_Tyre through the Ages_, Beirut, Dar El-Mashreq Publishers, 1969).
The same sentence, in fact.  He defends the fulfillment of the
prophecy using the same argument you are using, an argument that
I haven't seen in print anywhere else, which is why I jumped to
the conclusion that you were quoting Josh.

(I tried to find the Jidejian book, but it isn't listed in Books
in Print.  Can you tell me more about it? Her descriptions are so
much at odds with everything else I've read; I'm curious to know why.)


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anonymous,

I saw a posting about the choice between 80486DX-50 and a 80486DX2-50.
I was wondering: although a DX-50 is faster because of the path to it's
external cache, shouldn't the choice be the DX2-50 as that one can be
made to work properly with a local-bus? I mean, cache speed is one thing,
but all your speed will be blocked during video I/O, so just get that
faster...
I'm willing to speculate that the DX2-50 with local-bus will be 2-4 times
as fast as the DX-50 and probably as expensive (or cheap ;-)!


I think you meant Quadra 800 ..... (but a Centris 800 probably
would be a real nice machine... :)  )

But yeah, it needs 80ns not 60ns.

Joel


In responding to the post below I have considered issues far outside the
scope of revisionism and principally have considered the political
implications of a racist ideology and its inevitable outcome. Thus it
is tangentially relevant to soc.history and alt.revisionism but I have directed
followups to t.p.m since it is principally consideration of the political
lessons to be drawn from the history of the NAZI party that I deal with.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that this was indeed the case? Does
this mean that Hilter would have been in any way less guilty of mass murder
because he aquiesced rather than participated as an active and ardent
supporter?

One of the important things to realise about the NAZIs is that the system
was far more evil than any single member. Once created the NAZI party
itself was a murder machine that would inevitably commit genocide, there was
noone within it strong enough to prevent it. Remember that Hitler did not
originaly lead the NAZI party nor was he particularly powerful within it
until his oratory allowed the party to come to power. Had Hitler reneged
upon the emotiaonal expectations which he had created within the ranks of
his supporters he would have been replaced as he had himself replaced the
old guard who he beleived were unable to grasp the intellectual implications
of their rhetoric.

This is why all parties that espouse NAZI style race supremacy ideologies must
be considered as dangerous and as evil as the NAZIs. The idea that one "race"
of people is inherently superior to another and that the greatest goal of
humanity is to achieve racial perfection has only one logical outcome,
the gas chambers of Auschwitz.

The NAZI party is not simply the tale of a supremely evil single man who
lead an entire country astray, beyond the evil of individuals there was the
evil of the system itself which was self generating and self perpetuating.
Hitler was an extreemly evil person who built his party arround an ego
cult centered on the demonstration of his own power, this does not however
mean that he was as entirely free from political constraints as he and
his propagandists worked so hard to assert. The myth that racism can
produce a strong government that can cure a nations ills must be
emphatically rejected. In the same way we must accept a distinction between
a govenrment that demonstrates its strength and one that is able to
govern decisively in the manner it beleives is best. I would accept only the
latter as a "strong" government since most displays of strength are made
necessary by an essential weakness.

It is important to understand that the NAZIs were not stupid nor were they
amoral in the sense that they lacked moral scruples. They acted in the
same manner as the Spanish Inquisition - murder and torture in the cause
of morality. The fault of the NAZIs lies in their axioms, not in their
logic nor in their implementation of those axioms. Thus all such parties
such as the National Front or David Dukes Klu Klux Klan front who assert
the truth of those axioms must be considered for what they are, advocates
of a system that would commit genocide.

The conclusion that Hitler was not only responsible but imensely evil is
inescapable from the historical record. It is important though to not let
the conclusion be reached that the NAZIs espoused a set of ideas that
were basically correct but had an unfortunate proponent. The evils of
the concept of race supremacy are primary. Although this most emphaticaly
does not excuse individual culpability this is nevertheless secondary.

No matter what the promises made by a racist, supremacist party upon
election those promises will be broken as soon as circumstances permit.
If this requires the replacement of the leaders that originally made
the pledges, that will occur. Hatred is a supreme justifier. It also creates
a dynamic of its own when those in government allow it reign. For many
in government politics is a method of providing a justification for
their own existence through a demonstration of their importance. A
rhetoric of hatred inevitably develops the question of action since the
continued existence of an object of hatred is inevitably a reminder of the
essential impotence of the politician. Thus we have the US raid on Tripoli
which has little purpose beyond a demonstration of power. It is important
to realise that there is no quantum jump between the politics of the right
and those of the extreeme right but a progression from the reinforcement
of popular predjudice to action being taken on the basis of that predjudice.
In the same way the extreeme left trace their route to despotism through
their assertion of the subjugation of the individual to ideology.

It is important though that in attempting to understand the dynamics
of political systems that this is not used to excuse the participants. The
leaders of a nation take on a supreme moral burden but not only do
so voluntarily are required to stive to do so. Thus to take on such a
task without a fundamental examination of the logical progression of
ones set of axioms to its conclusion in itself is a moral crime. Furthermore
in taking on such a duty one is obliged to put the interest of the whole
before personal concerns, even of personal security.

Although it was inevitable that a party such as the NAZIs, based upon hatred
and an idolisation of the symbols of power should have saught to commit
genocide it was not inevitable that they should succeeded. Each member of
the system had an ability to create a change within it that had a possibility
of changing the dynamic. Realising that the individual cannot hope to
control a system does not mean accepting that the individual cannot
affect the system.


Correction: _hard_ atheism is a faith.

Get a grip, man.  The Stalin example was brought up not as an
indictment of atheism, but merely as another example of how people will
kill others under any name that's fit for the occasion.

So hard atheism has nothing to prove?  Then how does it justify that
God does not exist?  I know, there's the FAQ, etc.  But guess what -- if
those justifications were so compelling why aren't people flocking to
_hard_ atheism?  They're not, and they won't.  I for one will discourage
people from hard atheism by pointing out those very sources as reliable
statements on hard atheism.

Second, what makes you think I'm defending any given religion?  I'm merely
recognizing hard atheism for what it is, a faith.

And yes, by "we" I am referring to every reader of the post.  Where is the
evidence that the poster stated that he relied upon?

         ^^^^

Bzzt!  By virtue of your innocent little pronoun, "they", you've just issued
a blanket statement.  At least I will apologize by qualifying my original
statement with "hard atheist" in place of atheist.  Would you call John the
Baptist arrogant, who boasted of one greater than he?  That's what many
Christians do today.  How is that _in itself_ arrogant?
With your sophisticated put-down of "they", the theists, _your_ serious
misinformation shines through.

--
Bake Timmons, III


I heard he had asked the FBI to provide him with a word processor.  Does
anyone know if Koresh has requested that it be WordPerfect5.0?  WP5.0 was
written (and is owned) by Mormons, so the theological implications of
requesting (or refusing) WP5.0 are profound!


Why?  Do you suppose he's immune to the ravages of time?  He's 37.
In a few years he'll be 40.  He doesn't get to as many grounders as
he used to, and will get to fewer still as his legs go, as they do
on every human so far.

Remember: Willie Mays was a defensive liability at he end of his
career too.  Ditto Mickey Mantle.  Ditto just about everyone else who
played into their late 30's.


Hi.  I am working on a project for my marketing class and I'd like to
ask your help.  The assignment is to come up with a product and create a
marketing plan for it.  Technical issues are not terribly important at
this point.  Well, my group's plan is to market a "full page" monitor
for laptop computers.  It would be a third-party product to be installed
by authorized repair centers (like Newer Technology's PaletteBook
screen).  The idea is that the screen would fold in such a way that you
would get twice the screen height of a normal screen (remember,
technical issues aside!).  In fact, by adjusting the fold of the screen
and the monitor configuration, you could have regular OR "full" height.
The screen would probably be monochrome.
The motivation behind this is that laptop computers seem to be very
popular among business people.  Business people also commonly use word
processing and spreadsheet applications for which it is very convenient
to see a large portion of the document.  Because of the target users and
applications, color screens aren't really a neccessity.  We could
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Not exactly dumb, but who remebers the tachometer on the 69 or 70 Firebird
bulging out of the _hood_ right in front of the driver. Neat place but I love
to know what the elemnts did to its internals after a few years. Also, does
the speedomete pointer on many US cars have to be 3 feet long?.


Hi, I just have a small question about my bike.
Being a fairly experienced BMW and MZ-Mechanic, I just don't know what to
think about my Honda.
She was using too much oil for the last 5000 km (on my trip to Daytona bike
week this spring), and all of a sudden, she trailed smoke like hell and
was running only on one cylinder.
I towed the bike home and took it apart, but everything looks in perfect
working order. No cracks in the heads or pistons, the cylinder walls look
very clean, and the wear of pistons and cylinders is not measurable. All
still within factory specs. The only thing I could find, however, was a
slightly bigger ring gap on the right cylinder (the one with the problem),
but it is still way below the wear-limit given in the Clymer-manual for
this bike.
Any syggestions??? What else could cause my problem??? Do I have to hone
the cylinder walls (make them a little rougher in a criss-cross-pattern) in
order to get better breaking in of my new rings??? Won't that increase the
wear of my pistons??
Please send comments to
	sruhl@mechanical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Thanks in advance. Stef.


>say they have a "history of untrustworthy behavoir[sic]"?


Atrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :

"Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles
 away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...
 'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to
 Karabagh's Azeri governor.  Azeri television showed pictures of one
 truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their
 faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out."
 Brian Killen (Reuters)
 The Washington Times, 3/3/92

Killings Rife in Nagorno-Karabagh, Moldova:

"Journalists in the area reported seeing dozens of corpses, including some
 of the civilians, and Azerbaijani officials said Armenians began shooting
 at them when they sought to recover the bodies."
 Fred Hiatt
 The Washington Post, 3/3/92

Serdar Argic


A few comments on the ATF's botched handling of this case:

1. Attempting to storm the compound in broad daylight?  The explanation
   we were given (at least at one point) was that they thought the cult
   members would be at religious services.  My only comment on this bit
   of idiocy is that if you're going to operate as a quasi-military unit,
   you'd better understand basic military tactics.  One cardinal rule
   is that only a fool plans an operation where if one assumption is
   incorrect, the operation will fail disastrously.

2. We were told that ATF got four agents killed because they were
   outgunned, they didn't expect such heavy resistance.  When
   questioned about why such an overwhelming military-style assault
   was planned, we were told that it was because the cultists were
   thought to be heavily armed.  Can you say contradictory?  I knew
   you could!

3. The BATF has had a bad reputation for years as a bunch of arrogant,
   hotdoggers.  I was talking to relatives a couple of weeks ago and
   referred to them as a bunch of Crockett and Tubbs wannabes.  I'm
   more than ever convinced that's right on target.  An anecdote not
   related to the Waco fiasco is that apparently the BATF screwed up
   some of the evidence in the World Trade Center bombing.  There's
   now an excellent chance some of the forensic evidence gathered by
   the FBI will not be admissible in court.  This is not hearsay.  I
   was told this by a relative of my wife's who happens to be an FBI
   agent.  His opinion of the BATF was, ummm, well, let's just say
   uncomplimentary.

4. I have *still* not been presented with one iota of evidence that
   the BD's had *any* of the alleged illegal weaponry which was the
   reason for the raid in the first place.  BTW, we're *still* hearing
   this justification.  AG Reno, on CNN yesterday, made references
   to this issue, without any substantiation.  She also waved around
   the "He's a child abuser and we heard he was beating the children!"
   flag.  Sigh.

5. A point re the Feds in general: their handling of the whole siege
   reflected a complete lack of understanding of the probable thought
   processes of the cultists.  AG Reno said they pushed the button
   because they were afraid a mass suicide was in the offing.  My
   only comment on that is that if the cultists were that close to
   the edge, what the hell did she think their reaction would be to
   an hours-long assault on the compound where holes were punched in
   the walls and CS gas pumped in?  If I were a BD, I'd expect the
   forces of the godless government to assault me at any time.  In
   that light, whether they torched themselves or drank Jim Jones
   Kool-Aid is irrelevant.  Also, look at how the siege was conducted:
   Bright lights, loud rock music, cutting off communications and
   other contact with the outside.  All measures designed to make the
   BD's feel more and more isolated and threatened.  This might have
   been a great strategy - if they were dealing with criminals.  As it
   was, it looks to me like everything they did fed into Koresh's
   paranoid delusions.

--

#include <std_disclaimer.h>


I heard that Eli is selling the team to a group in Cinninati. This would
help so that the O's could make some real free agent signings in the
offseason. Training Camp reports that everything is pretty positive right
now. The backup catcher postion will be a showdown between Tackett and Parent
although I would prefer Parent. #1 Draft Pick Jeff Hammonds may be coming
up faster in the O's hierarchy of the minors faster than expected. Mike
Flanagan is trying for another comeback. Big Ben is being defended by
coaches saying that while the homers given up were an awful lot, most came
in the beginning of the season and he really improved the second half. This
may be Ben's year.
	I feel that while this may not be Mussina's Cy Young year, he will
be able to pitch the entire season without periods of fatigue like last year
around August. I really hope Baines can provide the RF support the O's need.
Orsulak was decent but I had hoped that Chito Martinez could learn defense
better and play like he did in '91. The O's right now don't have many
left-handed hitters. Anderson proving last year was no fluke and Cal's return
to his averages would be big plusses in a drive for the pennant. The
rotation should be Sutcliffe, Mussina, McDonald, Rhodes, ?????. Olson is an
interesting case. Will he strike out the side or load the bases and then get
three pop outs? You never know.
The way I see the AL East this year (with personal biases mixed in)
Baltimore
New York
Toronto
Milwaukee
Cleveland
Boston
Detroit
(The top 4 are the only true contenders in my mind. One of these 4 will
definitely win the division unless it snows in Hell/Maryland :). I feel
that this Baltimore's season to finally put everything together.)
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and from there I can do anything I need to do.   ANY HELP WILL BE GREATLY
APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!!


True, but will traditional encryptions schemes, when further encrypted
by Clipper, be _more_ vulnerable to attacks such as partially known
plaintext?


I have a Laserwriter IIg that has disappeared completely from the
Network, i.e. it's name doesn't show up in any zone.  (You can print
to it from it's serial interface, tho!)  I have seen some discussion
here about changing the zone a IIg is in... including some PS code
that lets you change the zone.  Is there maybe some PS code you can
use to have it go back to all its factory default settings?  I have
a feeling that's what needed to heal ours.


Alan,

	don't forget,  a HUGE  cost for airliner developement is FAA
certification.  the joke is when the paperwork  exceeds teh weight
of the airplane,  it will fly.

The SR-71, and teh X-15  both highly ambitious  aero-space projects were done
on very narrow engineering budgets.   Partly because they didn't spend much
on paper  pushing.   There is some company in missouri  trying to
get funding to build light commercial transporters  on a low cost basis,
mostly by reducing FAA  certification costs.


SP> From: paulson@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Sharon Paulson)
SP> to describe here.  I have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced
SP> a seizure on November 3, 1992 at 6:45AM after eating Kellog's Frosted
SP> Flakes.

SP> Well, we were going along fine and the other morning, April 5, she had
SP> a bowl of another Kellog's frosted kind of cereal, Fruit Loops (I am

SP> When I mentioned what she ate the first time as a possible reason for
SP> the seizure the neurologist basically negated that as an idea.  Now
SP> after this second episode, so similar in nature to the first, even
SP> he is scratching his head.

There's no data that sugar-coated cereals cause seizures.  I haven't
even seen anything anecdotal on it.  Given how common they are eaten
- do you know any child or adolescent who *doesn't* eat the stuff? -
I think that if there were a relationship we would know it by now.
Also, there's nothing weird in those cereals.  As far as the brain
is concerned (except for a few infantile metabolic disorders such as
galactosemia), sugar is sugar, regardless if it is coated on cereal,
sprinkled onto cereal, or dissolved in soda, coffee or whatever.

There was some interest a few years ago in aspartame lowering
seizure thresholds, but I don't believe anything ever came of it.


Actually, they're pretty worthless, if you want to evaluate players
with stats.  RBIs and Runs Scored should be banned; all they do is
confuse victims of mediot brainwashing like yourself.

  You

Uh, so?

You've just explained why we use OBP and SLG to evaluate players.
Precisely because the team that scores more runs wins the game.
Traditional baseball stats have gotten way too far away from methods
which enable fans to see who contributes to those runs scored - that's
where OBP, SLG, Runs Created, Linear Weights, etc. come in.  These
simplify matters so that we can more easily measure a player's
offensive contribution to the team's runs scored.

Thank you for making our case.  Have a nice day.


Correction: The *FBI* *says* that two of the nine who escaped said the fire
was deliberately set by cult members.  Since the press was kept miles away,
we have absolutely no independent verification of any of the government's
claims in this matter.


I am having something very unusual happen.  First
some background on my system.  I have a Mitsubishi 63 meg Hard Drive,
and am running Smartdrv (the version that comes with Windows 3.1) on
it.  I rarely use Windows.  I use a program called Disk Technician
Gold v1.14 to do diagnostics live time on my hard drive.  It works by
having a device driver detect whenever more than one read is
necessary for a file, or if there is anything else is wrong with it,
and minor problems are fully checked out upon rebooting.  My hard
drive is notorious for bad sectors.  I usually end up with 8 new bad
sectors a week.

        Here's what happened:  I ran a program, and DTG broke in with
an Emergency Warning and recommended I reboot.  It gave me this
message twice before the program was fully loaded.  I exited the program
and did just this.  DTG went through its bootup process, examining
for new errors etc., and a screen popped up and said something about
sectors for a brief period of time.

        I then went back to the program, executed it again, and the
exact same error was detected.  I rebooted and tried again, and the
same error happened again.  So, I removed DTG from memory, and went
to the program to see if I could detect anything wrong.  Sure enough
there was a number of read attempts.  So I rebooted and reloaded DTG,
but removed the cache.  I executed the program.  No read errors,
either audible or detected by DTG.  I quit the program, loaded the
cache, and ran the program again.  The errors were detected.

        Ok, so the errors are there, and DTG detects but doesn't fix
them, when the cache is loaded.  When the cache is not loaded there are
no errors.  So, to see if the cache was interfering with any other
files, I went into xtree gold and tagged all files, and searched them
for a random string (in other words, I wanted the program to
completely read every file on my hard drive).  Before I got through
the c's DTG had detected at least six errors and recommended I reboot.

        Does anybody, have any idea why Smartdrv is causing misreads on
my hard drive?  Oh, there are exactly two misreads per file, and 1 in
about every 100 files are affected.

        I originally posted this message to Disk Technician Corp.'s
system, but I figured someone out in netland may know enough about
smartdrv to help me out.


I had a catalog with membrane keypads, but I dunno what
happened to it, and it was so long ago that I forget the
name of the company.  Anyway, you could make your own
legend and slip it behind the bezel.  Really nice and
reasonably priced.  Can anyone tell me where to get some
more of these critters?  I've tried several places, but
none of them seem to have keypads which allow you to use
your own legend.

Any suggestion would be appreciated.


One of the rules for a permanent swap file is that it must be contiguous
(non-fragmented) space.  I suspect that is more responsible for the
difference than the amount of free disk, in your case.

It depends on what you are running.  We had to increase our swap
file (I think it is now 20MB) when some applications couldn't
run without *everything* else closed.


Hmmm, this gave me an interesting idea.  How about this argument:

1)  Second Amendment gives us the right to keep and bear arms.

2)  Strong cryptography is "arms", according to the U.S. government (that's
    why it's so hard to export).

Therefore, we have a constituitional right to strong cryptography!
Q.E.D.

However, it's likely to be as hard or harder to exercise this right as it
is getting to exercise the other rights that the government is slowly
restricting.  Maybe the NRA _would_ be the best existing organization?
(Although I think a new one might be better, but perhaps would take too long
to start up.  I would certainly join.)


I think he means Girlie Photography.  A good place to find it is in
non-descript little places that usually just say "Books" on the
outside of the building in black and white.

--


 Hmmm...what about walks and SB? Baerga got clobbered by Alomar in OBP and
beat him in SLG by a lesser margin. Even putting aside any other factors,
a player with a 51 point edge in OBP is more productive than a player with
a 28 point edge in SLG. The issue has been studied before, and I doubt you
could come up with any convincing argument the other way.
 People see the batting average and the HR, but they don't really know
their value is worth unless they've studied the issue closely. The fact is that
Baerga ate up a LOT more outs than Alomar; while Baerga was making outs,
Alomar was drawing walks and being on base for Carter, Winfield et.al.


Coming from a long line of "hot tempered" people, I know temper when I see
it.  One of the tell tale signs/fruits that give non-christians away - is
when their net replies are acrid, angry and sarcastic.

We in the net village do have a laugh or two when professed, born again
christians verbally attack people who might otherwise have been won to
christianity and had originally joined the discussions because they were
"spiritually hungry."  Instead of answering questions with sweetness and
sincerity, these chrisitan net-warriors, "flame" the queries.

You don't need any enemies.  You already do yourselves the greatest harm.


Mel is alive and well and playing in Japan. (The Yanks let him go because
he was asking for too much money, and because they thought that they were
going to get Barry Bonds, making Hall obsolete. Oopsie! Well, at least
they got O'Neill to replace the Mel-man).

--I'm outta here like Vladimir!
-Alan


DEG has many german-born forwards in the team. In fact the majority of players
are german-born. 1992-93 DEG had 11150 average in 11800 spectator arena.

My Possible-NHL(European league)-site list:
Switzerland  : Berne, Zurich (Lugano and 1-2 others)
Germany      : Dusseldorf, Cologne, Berlin, Munich (Mannheim, Rosenheim)
Sweden       : Stockholm, Gothenburg (Malmo, Gavle)
Finland      : Helsinki (Turku, Tampere)
Italy        : Milan
France       : Paris (Chamonix, Ruoen?)
Norway       : (Oslo)
Austria      : (Vienna, Villach)
Chech        : (Prag)
Slovakia     : (Bratislava)
Russia       : (Moscow, St. Petersburg)
Great Britain: ?
Netherlands  : ?


Good statement! Should we apply empirical measurements to define exact
social morals? Should morals be based on social rules? On ancient
religious doctrines? It seems there will *NEVER* be a common and single
denominator for defining morals, and as such defining absolute
and objective morals is doomed to fail as long as humans have
this incredible talent of creative thinking.

Cheers,
Kent


Sorry, but *neither* 'dictates' the cost. It's a negotiation.
Whether it's up front at a honda dealership in an all out
dickering war, or more removed on a larger economic scale
(ie, if saturn can't sell at it's price, the price drops,
or the company stops building them), it remains a negotiated
value controlled by market forces. To think that the consumer
controls price is ludicrous. If the consumer controled
price, then cars would be *free*...And no one would build
cars.

Regards, Charles


Did they or did they not sustain Miller's conviction? I don't have the
text of the case handy.

Yes, shotguns had been used in WWI, the Spanish-American War, and the
US Civil War. That was not in question. The possession of a sawed-off
shotgun was, i.e., a weapon altered to improve concealibility.

You are free to produce evidence that I'm not willing to abide with
all the implications of this.

Just because I don't whole-heartedly endorse the NRA position does not
mean that I oppose the RKBA. This attitude is what makes the NRA
unpopular.


I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get more information about
the graphics in the WingCommander series, and the RealSpace system they use.
I think it's really awesome, and wouldn't mind being able to use similar
features in programs.  Thanks in advance.


Has anyone ever heard of FET-TRONS (or is it FETRONS, FETTRONS, ...).
These were FET replacement modules for vacuum tubes. I'm looking for
applications where they were used.


  >>
  >>    Environment:
  >>       mach/arch : sparc/sun4  (IPX)
  >>       OS	: SunOS 4.1.3
  >>       X11	: X11R5 (patchlevel 22)
  >>       Motif	: 1.2.2
  >>
  >> I bring up X server using 'startx' and /usr/bin/X11/Xsun. The following sequence
  >> of actions crashes the X server (SIGPIPE, errno=32, 'xinit' reports that connexion
  >> to X server lost):
  >
  >I had this problem as well - It had to do with the CG6 graphics card that
  >comes with the IPX.  What fixed the problem for me was to apply the "sunGX.uu"
  >that was part of Patch #7.  Patch #1 also used this file so perhaps you
  >didn't apply the one that came with Patch #7.
  >
  >jeff
  >-
  >Jeff W. Boote  <boote@ncar.ucar.edu>      *********************************
  >Scientific Computing Division             * There is nothing good or bad  *
  >National Center for Atmospheric Research  * but thinking makes it so.     *
  >Boulder                                   *                   Hamlet      *
  >                                          *********************************

Thanx, Jeff. You're a lifesaver. I imported the new sun GX emulator that came in
with patch #7. The problem has since disappeared.

Thanx to der (schoene) Mouse for his help too.


I have a BACK MACHINE and have had one since January.  While I have not
found it to be a panacea for my back pain, I think it has helped somewhat.
It MAINLY acts to stretch muscles in the back and prevent spasms associated
with pain.  I am taking less pain medication than I was previously.
   The folks at BACK TECHNOLOGIES are VERY reluctant to honor their return
policy.  They extended my "warranty" period rather than allow me to return
the machine when, after the first month or so, I was not thrilled with it.
They encouraged me to continue to use it, abeit less vigourously.
   Like I said, I can't say it is a cure-all, but it keeps me stretched out
and I am in less pain.


I recently had to move and forgot to update my address to the Orthodox
mailing list. Can anyone e-mail me the address for changes and what
exactly I have to put in caps, etc? (please send the original
subscription address also). Thanks ahead of time! -Ed.


Hello.

      Is it possible to know minimize program manager when starting an
      application and to restore it when the application is ended ?
      If possible, please tell me how to do it !


So, you have the right unless the Federal Government says you don't.
I don't think I like this very much.

This would be much better if it said "everyone except those who have
been striped of this right by due process of law" or some such thing.

Also, I don't care for the Federal Government stepping on states rights
regardless of which state right is being stepped on.  If the constitution
doesn't give the Feds some power then they have to just shut up about
it.

The only way the Feds should have anything to say is if the Constitution
prohibits localities from infringing on the RKBA.  In which case this
bill should just reiterate that the RKBA is guaranteed by the Constitution
and that the Feds will take appropriate action if it is infringed.


Are you using Fastopen?  If you are, disable it.  We had a lot
of problems with fastopen corrupting weird things (including
the Windows permanent swap file) when we were using it.

Indeed they are.  Advanced Personal Measure tells me they are accessed
just before shell.dll

I really like Spinrite and QA Plus


     I am doing a term paper on steroids, actually the scientist who
helped crate the drug. I discovered that Joseph Fruton is one of the
researchers who helped create anabolic steroids. The only information on
this person I know is he was a biochemist that did research in the 1930's.
I already did research at my local libraries, but I still need more
information. My instructor is requiring resources from the computer
networks. Please write back concerning my subject, any books, articles,
etc., will be appreciated.


If you did not see with your 'eyes' freedom of religion you
must ne at least blind !
2 weeks ago I read the interview of a Turkish journalist in a GReek magazine,
he said nothing about being forbiden to have Turkish press in Greece !
Give as a brake. You call athnic cleansing of apopulation when it doubles?
What do you mean by that ? Anyway in Greece, as in every  country if you want
some property you 'inform' the goverment .
Well well well. When Turkish in Area of Komotini elect 1 out of 3
represenatives of this area to GReek parliament, if not freedom what is it?
3 out of 3 ? Maybe there are only Turks living there ....
I cannot deny that actions of fanatics from both sides were reported.
A minority of Greek idiots indeed attack religious places, which
were protected by the Greek police. Photographs of Greek policemen
preventing Turks from this non brain minority were all over Greek press.


	COuld he?  And the first three that died, when guns ablazing in came
	the BATF and FBI?

	I imagine I would have some trouble giving up my children to
	someone who had just shot -- what -- two of them?

	NB:  It takes two sets of guns in a situation like this.

	Fanatical:  those whowill not tolerate another's way of life
	Religious:  Based on emotional, internal, or otherwise
		lacking in commonly defined _scientific_ basis,
		including legal ones, such as this old saw:

			Innocent untilproven guilty

		not
			Innocent until presumed guilty

	Who is the fanatic?  Note who is dead; this usually bespeaks
	a fair bit for the idea that the OTHER side also had lethal
	weapons, used fatally.

		They are dead:  the children.
			At best Koresh was an asshole and the government
			criminally negligent in its hadni\ling of the case.

			At worst, Koresh and his followers were
				innocent
				not brainwashed
				guilty of illegal arms possession
					(as yet unproven)
				and murderedd
				along with 25 children
			They cannot speak for themselves
			Members of the (surviving, alive, and not burned
				to death) BATF/FBI can, and are
				inappropriately
				to the public eye
				outside the bounds of their legal authorities
					read the charter:
					the Constitution specifies that
					the COURTS convict, while the
					enforcement arm INVESTIGATES,
					and that the evidence involved
					shuld not be disseminated in a
					way to harm or injure a party
					involved prior to that action;
					its called slander or libel
					(even where factually true butthen
					distoted or disseminated with intent
					to harm
				for the purpose of covering their butts

			because the bottom line is:
				they SAID they wanted the kids to get out
					alive
				and theFBI, the BATF, Ms. Reno, the Prez,
					and EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS

						SICK
						SELFSERVING
						GROUP OF UPRIGHT ANIMALS
					that used to be a freedom loving
					peaceful country called

						America:  look up the name,
						it might surprise you
				has turned the "point the finger of blame"
				on the OTHER guy.

				and LET THOSE KIDS DIE.

				Note well:  they lived 51 days; they only
				died when attacked by outside force.

			SPock's World, Diane Duane:

				The spear in the heart of another
				is the spear in your own ....

		ALL of us are responsible.

		Iam; you are.  The question is not whether, but how:

			Guess what:  you get to make up your own mind
			on that.

	Who created the war zone?  You should be ashamed of bypassing that.
	It's the same damned (Literally) comment made by the folks in
	the former Yugoslavia to justify Ethnic Cleansing:

		"Gee, they had the guns, all they had to do was surrender".

	Whose "cause" did they die for?  The one where they lived,
	peacibly, to all known purposes (until proven in COurt,
	folks!), or the Cuase of Righteous Government SafeGuarding
	The Freedom Of The CHildren

		Who are now dead.

	AgainI say:

		I do NOT know who did what
		I was NOT there.
		The FBI leaders show moral SICKness trying to
			convict in the press ahead of schedule
		And you should look over your shoulder,

		becuase if there is anything my ruminations that
		actually  sets onto real fact of what happened

			and I do not know that; I am defending
			people who ahving been burned to death cannot
			speak for themselves

		you may, in 22-5 years, find that the concept in our
		Court system  has gone from

			Due Processss

		to

			Due Profit

		and the BATF come to collect their fair share of the tax
		on the value of your house if you rented it for income

			which is going down now, folks.
			Read Bankruptcy 1995
				Its accurate in figures
				and it bypasses the greedy
					businessman and
					mankers who have
				taken profit from the corruption
				of our govbernment.

			Look to where the money went, folks.

			You  got $10 for medicare that paid a doctor for
			$00.50 worth of medicine.

				This is the customaryprofitmargin
				to businessmen for goernment entitlements.

	Who wll own the land of the cult now?  Note well:  it WAS nonproift,
	religious, and nontaxable.  Large tract of land .... hmmm.

	Use your brains, folks:  it happened Germany, and it can happen
	here.
			4.3 trillion (admitted) and counting....

royc.


From: push@media.mit.edu (Pushpinder Singh)
Subject: re: Centris 610 Video Problem - I'm having it also!
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 03:17:45 GMT

etc.


New Jersey                       1 0 2--3
Pittsburgh                       2 3 1--6
First period
     1, Pittsburgh, Tocchet 1 (Stevens, Lemieux) pp, 1:40.
     2, New Jersey, Barr 1 (Guerin, Holik) 6:24.
     3, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 1 (Jagr, Ramsey) 9:33.
Second period
     4, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 2 (Stevens, Murphy) pp, 4:11.
     5, Pittsburgh, Francis 1 (Ramsey, Mullen) 12:57.
     6, Pittsburgh, Tippett 1 (Jagr, McEachern) 17:13.
Third period
     7, Pittsburgh, Jagr 1 (Samuelsson, Lemieux) pp, 8:35.
     8, New Jersey, Stevens 1 (Niedermayer, Driver) pp, 11:48.
     9, New Jersey, Stevens 2 (Semak, Niedermayer) 18:56.

Pittsburgh: 6    Power play: 8-3
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Francis            1    0    1
Jagr               1    2    3
Lemieux            2    2    4
McEachern          0    1    1
Mullen             0    1    1
Murphy             0    1    1
Ramsey             0    2    2
Samuelsson         0    1    1
Stevens            0    2    2
Tippett            1    0    1
Tocchet            1    0    1

New Jersey: 3    Power play: 8-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Barr               1    0    1
Driver             0    1    1
Guerin             0    1    1
Holik              0    1    1
Niedermayer        0    2    2
Semak              0    1    1
Stevens            2    0    2

-----------------------------------------
St Louis                         0 2 2--4
Chicago                          1 2 0--3
First period
     1, Chicago, Noonan 1 (Larmer, Brown) 8:17.
Second period
     2, St Louis, Brown 1 (Shanahan, Emerson) 3:12.
     3, Chicago, Noonan 2 (Roenick, Chelios) pp, 5:40.
     4, Chicago, Noonan 3 (Matteau, Sutter) 8:51.
     5, St Louis, Felsner 1 (McRae, Janney) 12:49.
Third period
     6, St Louis, Shanahan 1 (Brown, Hull) pp, 11:12.
     7, St Louis, Hull 1 (Emerson, Brown) pp, 11:29.

St Louis: 4    Power play: 4-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Brown              1    2    3
Emerson            0    2    2
Felsner            1    0    1
Hull               1    1    2
Janney             0    1    1
McRae              0    1    1
Shanahan           1    1    2

Chicago: 3    Power play: 7-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Brown              0    1    1
Chelios            0    1    1
Larmer             0    1    1
Matteau            0    1    1
Noonan             3    0    3
Roenick            0    1    1
Sutter             0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Los Angeles                      1 3 2--6
Calgary                          0 1 2--3
First period
     1, Los Angeles, Sydor 1 (Gretzky, Sandstrom) 0:16.
Second period
     2, Calgary, Suter 1 (Fleury) sh, 2:48.
     3, Los Angeles, Carson 1 (Shuchuk, Sydor) pp, 3:13.
     4, Los Angeles, Huddy 1 (Taylor, Rychel) 3:37.
     5, Los Angeles, McSorley 1 (unassisted) 6:36.
Third period
     6, Los Angeles, Millen 1 (Granato, Donnelly) 1:06.
     7, Calgary, Dahlquist 1 (Otto) 4:23.
     8, Calgary, Yawney 1 (MacInnis, Reichel) 8:47.
     9, Los Angeles, Carson 2 (Sandstrom, Robitaille) pp, 10:32.

Los Angeles: 6    Power play: 10-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Carson             2    0    2
Donnelly           0    1    1
Granato            0    1    1
Gretzky            0    1    1
Huddy              1    0    1
McSorley           1    0    1
Millen             1    0    1
Robitaille         0    1    1
Rychel             0    1    1
Sandstrom          0    2    2
Shuchuk            0    1    1
Sydor              1    1    2
Taylor             0    1    1

Calgary: 3    Power play: 8-0   Special goals:  sh: 1  Total: 1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Dahlquist          1    0    1
Fleury             0    1    1
MacInnis           0    1    1
Otto               0    1    1
Reichel            0    1    1
Suter              1    0    1
Yawney             1    0    1

-----------------------------------------
First period
     1, NY Islanders, Ferraro 1 (Flatley, Vaske) 5:56.
Second period
     No scoring.
Third period
     2, Washington, Hunter 1 (Elynuik, Krygier) 3:18.
     3, Washington, Hunter 2 (Khristich, Johansson) pp, 7:01.
     4, Washington, Khristich 1 (Pivonka, Johansson) pp, 15:25.

Washington: 3    Power play: 5-2
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Elynuik            0    1    1
Hunter             2    0    2
Johansson          0    2    2
Khristich          1    1    2
Krygier            0    1    1
Pivonka            0    1    1

NY Islanders: 1    Power play: 5-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Ferraro            1    0    1
Flatley            0    1    1
Vaske              0    1    1

-----------------------------------------
Buffalo                          2 1 1 1--5
Boston                           0 2 2 0--4
First period
     1, Buffalo, Hannan 1 (unassisted) 2:32.
     2, Buffalo, LaFontaine 1 (Mogilny) 9:26.
Second period
     3, Boston, Juneau 1 (Neely, Oates) pp, 7:20.
     4, Boston, Neely 1 (Oates, Juneau) 14:42.
     5, Buffalo, Mogilny 1 (Hawerchuk, Smehlik) 19:55.
Third period
     6, Buffalo, Mogilny 2 (unassisted) 3:46.
     7, Boston, Neely 2 (Juneau, Oates) 15:44.
     8, Boston, Heinze 1 (Juneau) 17:00.
Overtime
     9, Buffalo, Sweeney 1 (Khmylev, Smehlik) 11:03.

Buffalo: 5    Power play: 3-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Hannan             1    0    1
Hawerchuk          0    1    1
Khmylev            0    1    1
LaFontaine         1    0    1
Mogilny            2    1    3
Smehlik            0    2    2
Sweeney            1    0    1

Boston: 4    Power play: 7-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Heinze             1    0    1
Juneau             1    3    4
Neely              2    1    3
Oates              0    3    3

-----------------------------------------
Montreal                         1 1 0 0--2
Quebec                           0 0 2 1--3
First period
     1, Montreal, Dionne 1 (Dipietro, Brunet) 5:52.
Second period
     2, Montreal, Bellows 1 (Muller, Desjardins) 9:58.
Third period
     3, Quebec, Rucinsky 1 (Lapointe, Sundin) pp, 18:31.
     4, Quebec, Sakic 1 (Lapointe) 19:12.
Overtime
     5, Quebec, Young 1 (Ricci, Duchesne) 16:49.

Quebec: 3    Power play: 4-1
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Duchesne           0    1    1
Lapointe           0    2    2
Ricci              0    1    1
Rucinsky           1    0    1
Sakic              1    0    1
Sundin             0    1    1
Young              1    0    1

Montreal: 2    Power play: 1-0
Scorer            G    A   Pts
---------------  ---  ---  ---
Bellows            1    0    1
Brunet             0    1    1
Desjardins         0    1    1
Dionne             1    0    1
Dipietro           0    1    1
Muller             0    1    1


tes:

     Did anyone think that Texas would have the top two home run leaders at a
given point in the season and neither one would be Jose Canseco?

                                        Steve
[]


Let's assume, for the moment, that the system really is secure unless
you get both halves of the encryption key from the two independent
escrow houses.  Let's say you even trust the escrow houses -- one is
the ACLU and the other is the EFF.  (And I'm not entirely joking about
those two names)

In that case the Prince of Wales has nothing to worry about on this
system.  Indeed, as pointed out, since the current systems, even the
current digital systems, are very easy to decode -- right now anybody
with an old TV can hear them -- for most people, this will be viewed
as an "oh goody" step upwards.

And look at how tolerant the public is.  They're willing to let the
neighbours with the radios hear right now.

It was suggested by one person that a *lot* of non-evidentiary wiretapping
is going on right now without warrants, because anybody can do it and it's
just an ECPA violation.  This would stop that.  All tapping would need
a warrant, or a breach of security at the escrow houses.


Does anyone have a version of "Which Mac Do I Buy?"
that is later than v 1.3.1?

I no longer have access the ZiffNet/Mac, accessed
through CompuServe, to check for myself.

"Which Mac..." is a HyperCard stack that assists
in decision making based on budget, features, and
main software used.

Please let me know if you can help me out. Download
from CompuServe should not cost much if a higher speed
modem is used. Stack, compressed, is about 125KB?

Thanks for any help...

Dale
carsona@sfu.ca


Deletions...

So, you consider the german poster's remark anti-semitic?  Perhaps you
imply that anyone in Germany who doesn't agree with israely policy in a
nazi?  Pray tell, how does it even qualify as "casual anti-semitism"?
If the term doesn't apply, why then bring it up?

Your own bigotry is shining through.
--


: >I just got to thinking:  why don't manufacturers still make bikes with
turbos?
: > etc ....

Because they add a lot of expense and complexity and make for a less reliable
and less controllable bike.

As an extreme example the CX500 Turbo cost as much as a Mike Hailwood Replica
Ducati.


We are trying to connect an Olivetti XM4311 5" floppy drive as the second
drive on a Panasonic 286 machine.  It seems to sort of talk to it (gets it
spinning and stepping) but gives a "Disk not ready" error.

There are two jumpers (which seem to work best open), a 3 position DIP
switch, and a 8 position DIP switch.  We don't know how to set the DIP
switches and think that may be the problem.

Any information, or advice (other than "junk the stupid thing" :) would be
most appreciated, thanks.  (email reply preferred).


===== This is a posting for my friend who does not have USENET access ========
===== Please contact him (not me) directly, thank you ========================

1. The Mac II is supposed to have a socket for the MC68851 PMMU chip. Could
anyone let me know where that socket is on the motherboard. I have obtained
a PMMU chip (16 Mhz) from a surplus store, and would like to install it onto
my Mac II (circa 1987). But I cannot see the socket myself when I tried to
install it.

2. Could anyone send me the pinouts for the Mac II SCSI DB-25 interface?

Thank you.


How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather
than silver!


And now, I interrupt your regularly scheduled news reading to bring you
another message sponsored by the Department of Really Mundane Statistics:

I passed the final individual player stats posted here the other day through
a filter to average out games, goals, assists, points, and penalty minutes
for the mythical average NHL pro who played in the league this season. (Why?
Because it's Monday and I didn't feel like writing any REAL code...)

Anyway, after I wiped out the 60-odd goalies in the list, I came up with:

NHL average:		55 GP      11 G      19 A      30 Pts      69 PIM

Then I passed the list through a second time to come up with the players who
had the smallest percentage difference in each of the categories.

Marty McInnis (NYI)	56 GP (1%) 10 G (9%) 20 A (5%) 30 Pts (0%) 24 PIM (65%)
Igor Kravchuk (EDM)	55 GP (0%) 10 G (9%) 17 A (10%) 27 Pts (9%) 27 PIM (53%)

These two are close in games, goals, assists, and points, but are too far off
in PIM. This leaves, as the most average player in the NHL:

Bobby Carpenter (WAS)	65 GP (18%) 11 G (0%) 17 A (10%) 28 Pts (6%) 63 PIM (8%)

What an honor.

I also passed the list through with the goalies still included. Kravchuk and
Carpenter were still in the top three, but Rob DiMaio came flying up from
behind to take the title:

NHL average:		53 GP      10 G      17 A      27 Pts      64 PIM
Igor Kravchuk (EDM)     55 GP (3%) 10 G (0%) 17 A (0%) 27 Pts (0%) 27 PIM (50%)
Bobby Carpenter (WAS)   65 GP (22%) 11 G (10%) 17 A (0%) 28 Pts (3%) 63 PIM (1%)
Rob DiMaio (TB)		54 GP (1%) 9 G (9%) 15 A (11%) 24 Pts (11%) 62 PIM (3%)

It's all really kind of underwhelming when you think about it.

-SG


I was wondering if anyone types in the box scores each day.
I am at college and am not able to get them till the weekend.
I would be thankful if someone could p-mail the Twins box scores every so
often.
Also I am looking for a Twins 93 schedule.


1) How was this testing done, and how many times?  (Calibrated speedometer?)

2) It's not the "some cases" that worry me, it's the "other cases" :-)


Yes, but... shouldn't size of newsgroup be an issue?  Sorry if this
has been covered before, but comp.grahpics.animation get how much
traffic per day?  50 articles?  Maybe 70 on an extremely heavy day?
I've been following this group for about four months now, and I don't
recall ever seeing such a flood of posts that a split would be warranted.

Just my 2 cents,


   Has anyone taken a look at the new ViewSonic 17? They claim
   1280x1024 at 76Hz.  How does it compare with the T560i in terms of
   price, and quality of display?

I'm interested in the new ViewSonic 17 as well.  Has anyone seen one
of these monitors in the flesh?


Oh come on, Silly, all you have to do is cut a hole in your hood and
put a tube there so you can get to the oil fill hole.  What do you
think all those big air intake things are for on those hot-rod cars?
They're just for looks only...little does anyone know, they provide
access to the oil-fill hole.


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Are 'Moody Monthly' and 'Moody' the same magazine (name change in recent
years)?

If not: Could someone post the address to 'Moody Monthly'?

:)avid


My choice for the escow house would be the Smithsonian, and someplace on
the west coast.  My biggest concern isn't that the escrow house could
be compromised (it will be), but the fact it has been compromised will
be kept secret.

The keys could be kept under glass, with 24-hour C-SPAN coverage.  If you
thought your key had been stolen just turn on the cable, and wait until
the roving camera reachs the musuem case with your key.  Or if you think the
C-SPAN satellite has been compromised, take a tour of the Smithsonian
yourself, and view the seal on your key.


Just a few comments about the feasability of zipping up a bunch of miles
on your electronic odometer with an oscillator....

    I wouldn't expect to be able to do this.  Not because the engineers at BMW are
putting in anti-fraud logic, but just because an automobile is a noisy, hostile
environment for electronics, and I would expect the software to be conservative.

   If I were to design a microprocessor-based odometer/speedometer program,
it would have the following features ( just off the top of my head ):

         * Debouncing/deglitching  ( Is this a real pulse, or just a glitch? )
         * Smoothing:  The rate-of-change of speed cannot be too high:
                                This is a car, not an electron.
         *  Top speed limit:  Anything above 200MPH is ridiculous: must be
                                        electrical noise or contact bounce

    As for getting in and presetting the pins:  if this is the circuit board out of
a BMW dashboard, I seem to remember a single big chip with lotsa pins in the
middle of the card.  Good luck getting at the counter :-).

    I wouldn't expect a high input frequency to damage the meter:  remember, it's
probably damped so it can't move too fast, and is probably protected.  After all,
a car is an extremely hostile place for delicate electronics;  there used to be an
app note in the National Semiconductor Linear Databook that went into this
in good detail.

                               - Jerry Kaidor ( tr2!jerry@dragoman.com, jkaidor@synoptics.com )


I only want to say that I agree with Noam on this point
and I hope that all sides stop targeting civilians.


No, IMO, Mr. Stowell missed the point.

Mr. Stowell seems to have jumped rather strangely from truth to absolutes.
I don't see how that necessarily follows.

Are all truths also absolutes?
Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)?

If the answer to either of these questions is no, then perhaps you can
explain to me how you determine which parts of Scripture are truths, and
which truths are absolutes.  And, who is qualified to make these
determinations?  There is hardly consensus, even in evangelical
Christianity (not to mention the rest of Christianity) regarding
Biblical interpretation.

I find Mr. Stowell's statement terribly simple-minded.


Miscellaneous comics for sale. I really would like
to get rid of these for lack of space. Buyer pays
shipping, and all offers considered. OH, and the
first purchase over $20 in any of my posts
gets a free Maxx #1/2 coupon, or a trashed copy
of Amazing spidey #300. Here goes...

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                 2-17         $1.75 each
                 Annual #1     2.50
                 Special #1    2.00

Sleepwalker      1,2,6,8,9,13  7.00 (set) or 1.25
                                             each

Next Men         #1           $3.00
Ray              #1            1.00
Deathstroke      5,6           1.75 each
Darkhawk         13            1.25
New warrior's    18            1.00
Fantasti Four    358           2.50
Moon Knight      35,36         1.75 each
Hulk             386-388       1.50 each

Punisher W.Z.    1             2.50
Cage             1             1.50
X-force          1             2.00
Silver Sable     1             2.00
X-calibur        26,27,48,49   1.50 each

Hearts of Darkness             5.00
Infinity Guantlet     1-4      2.50 each
Batman v. Pred.       1,3      2.00 each
 "   "  "  (deluxe)   1        5.00

Guardians of the
Galaxy                1       3.00
Spider-man 2099       1-3     5.00 (set)
Spec. spider-man      189     3.00 (special hologram)

Let me know if you'd like to buy anything. My
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I lived there until July 1992 so I think that on the whole,
my input is relevant.

Those are two separate questions.  Obviously, Israeli authorities do
recognize Israeli nationality for some purposes, e.g. passports,
consular services, etc...  ID cards have a field of nationality
which is a subdivision of the above.  Ostensibly, this field
is provided for sevices provided by the religious departments
of the gov't, though this is not the general case.

From its onset, Israel's borders have been shaped and reshaped by both
war and peace.  As such, the Israeli gov't has always felt that defining
its borders is a step that is meaningful only after peace treaties have
been conluded with its neighbors.  There is no plan for "ultimate borders"
(is this a game like "ultimate frisbee"?) extending into  other countries.

Aside from what Vaanunu provided, no.

If that is true, then by virtue of the question's subject, it is
unanswerable.  Anyone who claims its validity. is claiming an oxymoron.
That having been said, I deny the above.

You go on to ask quite a number of questions that show an obvious
bias.  Questions of the sort "Is it true that you entered your
mother's vagina?" which are based upon some kernel of truth, though
phrased in a way as to render them repugnant and cast aspersions
upon Israel.  Incidentally, the answer to the above is usually yes,
unless you were born via a C-section.


Wales Conference, Adams Division, Semifinal

I'm hoping for a Fuhr miracle, but I agree that Boston will likely win the
series.  Goaltending is about equal, top offensive players are about equal
(Mogilny-LaFontaine vs. Oates-Juneau), but Buffalo has no answer to Neely
(not to imply that Neely is not a top offensive player btw, in fact he's one
of my favourites even though he's a damn Bruin :) ).  And the rest of the
matchup wrt lineup favours Boston anyway.  But I think it will go six.

Agreed here...but Montreal will be pushed to the limit.  Is it just me, or
does everything Montreal does in the playoffs come down to Roy?  Go Habs!!

Final

I can't predict a Montreal victory because I've been watching them play for
6 weeks and IMO they severly need some tougher players, especially to play
in the Garden.  Last time they beat the B's 5-2 but Boston had a clear
territorial advantage; the victory was Roy's.  At the same time, I can't
bring myself to predict the possibility of a loss, so I'll just say I will
not be putting money on this series. :-)

Agreed.  NY doesn't have the goaltending to stop the onslaught, independent
of the trouble they have given Pittsburgh this year.  Pens in five, which is
credit to NY.

Agreed here too, but I think it will go at least six.  Jersey has a decent
team, and Washington has done poorly against the division this year.

I think they will use Tabaracci more after Beaupre gets shelled.  I don't
think it will go six either...*maybe* five.

If Pittsburgh plays Boston, IMO they win in likely five, possibly six.  They
own the Bruins.  If they play Montreal, I think it will go to seven, and once
again I won't be putting money on the seventh game.  I say seven because the
Habs have played Pittsburgh very tough this season.

Chicago will win, but I think in at least six.  Chicago is not that good,
IMO.  And remember that they take ridiculous numbers of penalties.

Very true.  The Leafs have much to be proud of, but they will soon find out
why Montreal did so lousy in the playoffs.  Toronto might win two or three
at MLG though.  Wings in six, maybe even seven.

It _will_ be a war...possibly the most intense playoff series of them all.
And yes, I think Detroit will win.  Probert will have to come up big though.

Our first disagreement.  Canucks are playing like shit.  They don't use their
size *at* *all*, which may explain why they get hammered 8-1 by a team
chasing them (Calgary)....Winnipeg in six.

This is also tough for me to call, because I haven't seen the Smythe enough.
I don't think Roberts will be well enough to figure in, Coffey is a
non-issue, who cares what Carson has done before, and *never* underestimate
Gretzky.  LA in six.

If it is these two, Calgary will not need six games.  But I think it will be
LA-Winnipeg anyway, and LA in seven, because of home ice.

Wow, must've been tough to go against your team.  But let's see, I picked
LA-Detroit.  Detroit will win, probably in six.

If Pittsburgh plays Detroit, it will go longer than five, and I wouldn't bet
against the Wings.  They are very strong, IMO, and nobody knows *how* strong
because they've been underachieving most of the year.  If forced to choose,
though, I'd have to take the Penguins.

A side note.  Vlad, last week you said that Selanne was a better player than
Gilmour.  NO WAY.  He is a more talented pure goal scorer...but aside from
the age difference, there is no way I would take him over Gilmour on my team.
I'm not asking for flames, either, btw....I've spent more than enough time
arguing on behalf of Selanne and I still say he's a great player.  But while
he and Gilmour are both dangerous offensively (give Teemu an edge),
Gilmour *does* *it* *all*.  I know a lot of Gilmour-bashing goes on, esp.
from Flame fans.  But IMO you guys are letting your dislike of Gilmour cloud
your judgement when it comes to his skill.  He is easily one of the best
all-round players in the NHL.


The idea here is to list pointless options. You know, stuff you
get on a car that has no earthly use?

1) Power windows

Add as you wish...

Regards, Charles


	It can be done, contact Chaparell cycle supply, they ought to have
the sprocket you need/want for cheap, well much cheaper than your average
dealership. Hey they even had sprockets for my VF1000R which is hard to find
accesssories for.

					-Craig.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------


-----Or, if you need to use a service bureau and they're only set up to use
Type 1 fonts. From what I've heard (pure hearsay) the results of outputting
TT fonts as Type 1 is _not_ as good as using high-quality Type 1 fonts in
the first place.


Hmmm.  The last time I got stung by a bee I experienced the same reaction
the first poster's brother did.  We went off to the doctor to see if I
should worry about the fact that my foot was now about 3 times it's normal
size.  (And itched!!!  Ow!)  He basically said I shouldn't this time, but
that bee sting allergy was not something you tended to get aclimatized to,
but were something that each time got progressively worse generally and that
next time could be the time I go into anaphylactic shock.  Admittedly this
was many years ago when I was young.  Since then I just make sure I don't
get stung.  I also should carry a bee sting kit with me, but I don't.

This isn't scientific or proof, but this would lead me to believe it's not a
different reaction, just a different degree of reaction.  Allergies work
that way.  People have various reactions.  Sort of like diabetes, some
people can get by with just monitoring their diet, others have to monitor
their diet and use insulin sometimes while others have to watch their diet
like a hawk and use insulin regularly.

I think MSG is probably similar...some people have allergic reactions to
it.  Some people are allergic to fermented things and can't use soy
sauce...but the chinese have been using it for centuries... that doesn't
necessarily mean that it's safe for everyone.


==============================================================================
Bear with me i'm new at this game, but could anyone explain exactly what DMORF
does, does it simply fade one bitmap into another or does it re shape one bitma
p into another. Please excuse my ignorance, i' not even sure if i've posted thi
s message correctly.


Let me clearify Mr. Turkish;


Posted by Cathy Smith for L. Neil Smith

                           WEIRD SCIENCE

Everyone knows how to tell when a politician is lying:  his lips
move.  What may not be equally obvious is that there are
politicians and then there are politicians -- and that the phrase
"political science" is subject to more than one interpretation.

Years ago, we heard how "scientists" were worried that a new Ice
Age might be coming, and later on that "nuclear winter" -- smoke
and dust thrown into the atmosphere by full-scale international
unpleasantness -- was a possibility.  Something like that may even
have killed the dinosaurs.

What we didn't hear was that no actual data supported any of this,
that real-world events (the burning of Kuwaiti oil fields) tended
to discredit it, that mostly it was propaganda meant to weaken
values that made America the most successful culture in history,
and that the dinosaurs probably died of something like the Plague
when continents drifted together, exposing them to new germs.

We miss a lot like this, unless we listen closely.  Prince William
Sound, site of the famous oil spill, and Mount St. Helen's weren't
supposed to recover from their respective disasters for at least
100 years.  That turned out not to be true, although you'd never
know it from watching network nightly news or CNN.  It doesn't fit
their agenda to inform us that the earth is vast and resilient, and
that nature is rougher on herself than we could ever be.

But for once, the media aren't entirely to blame.  As ignorant of
science as they are of everything, they trust "scientists" to
unscrew the inscrutable.  The trouble is that today's "scientists"
have agendas of their own.

Nobody in government, that wellspring of scientific wherewithal, is
going to offer grants to an investigator who states truthfully that
there is no respectable evidence for "global warming".  The money
and power for bureaucrats and politicians lie in mass transit, and
they hate the automobile -- blamed as a major cause of the mythical
crisis -- as a source of privacy and freedom they find intolerable.

The same appears true of "acid rain", a deliberate hoax cooked up
by the Environmental Protection Agency (which hates private
industrial capitalism almost as much as it does your car) and
foisted on real scientists through trickery which has depended on
specialists in different fields not talking to each other much.

The list goes on, always with a common, disreputable thread.
"Ozone depletion", for which evidence is even more suspect and
contradictory than for acid rain or global warming, is no more than
a last, desperate attempt to indict private capitalism in an era
when state central planning and the command economy have failed and
can only find this final, withered leg to teeter on.

Decades of anti-nuclear alarmism, resting on foundations of myth
and panic-mongering, have failed to erase the fact that nuclear
power is the safest, cleanest, most efficient source of energy
known to mankind -- and more to the point, that the greater amount
of energy there is available to any individual in society, the
freer that individual -- and his society -- become.

Honest studies on the effects of individual gun ownership and
self-defense on crime -- conducted by investigators who began as
ideological opponents to those concepts, but which show massive
reductions in the latter to be the result of the former -- have
been suppressed, most recently by the California state government.

And what the media didn't say about recent EPA "discoveries" on the
effect of "secondhand smoking" is that, although some harm to non-
smokers may have been detected, it was less (by an order or two of
magnitude) than that associated with frying bacon a couple times a
week or keeping a pet bird.  It's enough to make you wonder whether
there was ever anything to the claim that smoking causes cancer.

That, of course, is the real threat represented by politically
correct science.  The world is a dangerous place.  It would be nice
to know the hazards.  I've never believed smoking to be a healthy
practice, but, given a lack of credibility on the part of today's
science, how am I to decide what to do about it?  Nicotine is
highly addictive, to that much I can attest from experience.  Yet
the stress of quitting may be riskier than to continue.  There
isn't any way to tell, thanks to the corrupting influence of
government money on the scientific establishment.

Two centuries ago, the Founding Fathers spared us certain agonies
to which every other nation in the world has been subject at one
time or another, by creating a legal barrier between politics and
religion.  Each time some short-sighted individual or group has
tried to lower the barrier (most recently over the issue of
abortion), blood -- real human blood, hot and smoking in the street
-- has wound up being shed.

Real human blood is being shed over scientific issues, as people's
lives are ruined through the loss, to agencies like the EPA, of
livelihood, or property it may have taken a lifetime to accumulate,
to diseases caused by toxins associated with burning fossil fuels
for electrical power, or thanks to bans on things like cyclamates,
when they die from the effects of obesity.

What we need now, if we hope to survive as a civilization for two
more centuries, is another barrier, a Constitutional separation of
state and science -- including medicine.  Knowledge is valuable;
real science won't languish for lack of funding.  The money will
simply come from contributors unwilling to pay for lies, and
everyone will benefit.

L. Neil Smith
Author:  THE PROBABILITY BROACH, THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE, HENRY MARTYN,
and (forthcoming) PALLAS
LEVER ACTION BBS (303) 493-6674, FIDOnet: 1:306/31.4
Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus
NRA Life Member


Buck Showalter just can't win.

Bob Wickman's pitching the game of his life through eight innings (Yanks
lead 6-1), so Buck decides to let the kid try and get his first complete
game. Wickman manages to get two outs, but in between, four funs score,
and all of a sudden it's 6-5, and Wickman just can't get the third out.
So Buck goes to the bullpen, and Farr gets out the first guy he faces.

Last night, Jimmy Key is pitching another in a long string of games of his
life (this guy just keeps getting better!) through eight innings (Yanks
lead 4-0). This time, Buck thinks, "I don't want a repeat of that
near-fiasco with Wickman, so I'll give my bullpen some work." Steve Howe,
whose ERA was 54.00 coming into the game, left with it at 81.00. He didn't
do too good. Then Farr comes in. He gives up a two-run homer, and the
Royals win it, 6-5.

What's going on? This is already the third or fourth time this year that
the bullpen has blown a lead. Farr & Howe have done it twice together,
Monteleone's done it once, and I think even Habyan did it once. What's the
deal? We finally have terrific starting pitching, so all of a sudden, our
bullpen turns to shit!

What's Buck gonna do? And what's George gonna do if this continues to happen?


What they would need to do, though, is make sure that nobody has
access to decent crypto in the first place.  They probably can't
tell Clippered voice from Clippered triple-DESed voice until they
get their copy of your key.  Any criminal who's going to use
encryption will do it under cover of Clipper.  The only way to avoid
this will be to try to prohibit strong encryption.

I probably shouldn't say this, but they could try to detect the use
of an illegal cypher by transmitting in the clear some statistical
properties of the plaintext.  An old-fashioned wiretap could then
detect the use of pre-encryption, which would drastically increase
the measured entropy of the input.  A countermeasure to this would
be to use steganographic techniques which put out voice.

You can tell if the NSA built this feature in: blow on the mike, and
observe whether a band of thugs comes through your ceiling.


Okay DoD'ers, here's a goddamn mystery for ya !

Today I was turning a 90 degree corner just like on any other day, but there
was a slight difference-  a rough spot right in my path caused the suspension
to compress in mid corner and some part of the bike hit the ground with a very
tangible "thunk".  I pulled over at first opportunity to sus out the damage.
My bike is a Kawasaki GPX250R with footpegs that are hinged and sprung such
that they fold upward and backward on contact with ground etc., and on the
lower extreme corner of each peg there is mounted a "bank-follower", or a
little stud that theoretically is the first bit to hit the ground in a
100%-banked turn.  The stud is mounted on the footpeg by a threaded bit about 7
mm long, which screws into a threaded hole in the footpeg.  Now for the
mystery.

The stud on the side of the bike that clunked when I turned was absent.  I'm
fairly sure it was there before the event.  There was no damage to the end of
the footpeg where the stud would ordinarily have been.  In fact, the thread in
the hole in the footpeg was perfectly intact, with no evidence of something
having been forcefully ripped out of it only moments previously.

Okay all you engineering types, how the f**k do you explain this ?  How can you
rip a tightly fitting steel thread out of a threaded hole (in alloy) without
damaging the thread in the hole ?  Is this some sort of hi-tech design thingo
that Kawasaki never mentioned, like that the end of the footpeg suddenly
changes phase on impact, to let the stud rip out, then changes back to a solid
?  I'm quite amazed at how this could have happened.  In the meantime, life
goes on, without a left-hand bank-follower.


Hi,
I've got a PACE MODEM , Series Four 2400s ( made in England by
PACE Micro Technology ) with a broken power supply .
So I'd like to know :

- the voltage and current values of the original
  power supply PS1001.
- the pinout of the power supply connector.
- the pinout of the USER PORT and how to use it.

Many thanks in advance to all the people help me.
Please post the reply also to my e-mail..........


How much is the BJ going for?  I got mine for $300 which was in the
end the deciding factor for me.

--Cindy
--
Cindy Tittle Moore


You moved from Alabama to California?  My sympathies.

Make sure that they have all maintenance records.  Oil should be changed
every 3 months.  The mileage on the cars is fine.

Be sure that these have the 16 valve engine.  The 8 valve 318 is a
BMW in name only.

Didn't you have a line on a '89 325i for 12K? Jump on it.


Reported yesterday in the Washington Post (Kathy Sawyer, writer):

The article plays down the Russian role in US space.

Gibbons (science advisor to Clinton) sent Goldin a letter indicating
NASA should not limit redesign options to those compatible with Mir
orbit.

The White House thinks expectations for Russian cooperation have been
raised too high.

The article reports that some think the spending and schedule limits
for space station are so stringent that the redesign is nearly
impossible.  That's why some think Goldin has begun looking at
Russian hardware.

Goldin states NASA will present all options to the administration
which will then have decision making power.

Goldin and the White House have totally ruled out using Energia to
boost the station.


Xcursor version 4.1 is now on export as xcursor4.1.tar.Z. I've added
a new option to determine if a requested cursor size is OK. Of course,
your server may lie!


Some time back I asked for software recommendations to  allow me to
run X from my PC at home to my Sparc at the office.

Many thanks for all replies, the majority of people  recommended
PCXremote from NCD. I received it yesterday  and installed it on
my Sparc and PC with only one hitch.
The UNIX install consists of copying 2 files into some local bin directory.
On the PC side, I ordered the WINDOWS version  which  came with a slick windows
installation.

The only problem I had was that  my .xinitrc  in my home directory
had the line
DISPLAY=`hostname`:0.0; export DISPLAY

s.t the clients I kicked off connected to my Xserver on the Sparc console.
By removing this line from the .xinitrc everything worked as planned
and the clients connected to the server at

`hostname`:1.0

Some comments on performance, I was connected to a Sparc 2 thru
a NetBlazer Terminal Server over a 9600 baud line.
My PC is a 486-DX2 ATI Ultra, 16 MB

Bitmap Stuff Sucked.
Basic Editing and compilation stuff definitely usable.
Xmail was very usable.

At times the first time U typed in an Xclient window there was
a very noticable delay, I put this down to brain damaged "WINDOWS
should not be called a SCHEDULER", besides that this will become
my remote work environment for a while.

Has anybody tried the NON Windows version of the product, the sales
person said they performed about the same, given the over head of
WINDOWS I question this?

many thanks for help to all who responded


I'm not sure it is a major limiting move... in the academic circles
I've seen, arguing for increased government intervention and
management is almost always a plus (not the least because it usually
means more high paying jobs for academics as "advisors").  Also
consider that it looks like Denning has some decent NSA / government
connections, which is always a plus for an academic institute that
wants more government funding and work tossed their way.

Despicable, yes; career limiting, well, the publicity probably
outweighs the drawbacks.  And there are a whole bunch of people who
think the whole thing is just peachy keen. If it's only going to be
used against drug dealers, child pornographers, and terrorists, well
it must be good. :p


The system, or 'family', key would appear to be cryptographically
useless, since *every* chip must know it and be able to remove its
effects from the bitstream.  I daresay that it will be widely known
almost immediately after this system is deployed, and since it's been
pointed out that there is not a separate decrypt key -- the same key
is used for both encryption and decryption -- there goes any benefit
to the use of a system-wide key in SkipJack.


Never. I don't know whether anybody formulated and proposed such an
index or criteria to determine the magnitude of a genocide as mentioned
and advised by Toynbee. If one ever does you will easily see the magnitude
of the crime of genocide committed by the Armenians, by massacring an alien
population under their rule which constituted about 40% of their total
population and they did it only within a time period of a little over
two years in which they enjoyed having full control over this population.

Now I would like to ask you:

  Is there any other genocide in the history of mankind similar to
  this one?

And again I would like to ask you:

  Whether the silent and unmourned martyrdom of these hundreds of thousands
  of Turks of the Republic of Armenia who were exterminated as a "Final
  Solution" to Turco-Tartar problems in Armenia is similar or not
  to the martyrdom of six million Jews in Europe as a final solution to
  Jewish problems?

Serdar Argic


/*

This program doesn't detect edges with compass operators and a laplacian
operator. It should output 2 raw grey-scale images with edges. The output
doesn't look like edges at all.

In novicee terms, how do I correct the errors? Any improvements are welcome.
(I'll even accept your corrected code.)

(If I convolve the INPUT.IMAGE with a digital gaussian [7 by 7] to remove
noise, will I get an improvement with the laplacian.)

--------------------------2 types of edge detection-------------------------*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>

#define IMAGEWIDTH 300
#define IMAGEHEIGHT 300

unsigned char Input_Image [IMAGEHEIGHT][IMAGEWIDTH];

unsigned char Angles_Wanted [IMAGEHEIGHT][IMAGEWIDTH];
unsigned char Magnitude_Image [IMAGEHEIGHT][IMAGEWIDTH];

int Laplace_Op1 [3][3] = { 0,-1, 0, -1,4,-1,  0,-1, 0};

int Compass_Op1 [3][3] = { 1, 1, 1,  0,0, 0, -1,-1,-1};
int Compass_Op2 [3][3] = { 1, 1, 0,  1,0,-1,  0,-1,-1};
int Compass_Op3 [3][3] = { 1, 0,-1,  1,0,-1,  1, 0,-1};
int Compass_Op4 [3][3] = { 0,-1,-1,  1,0,-1,  1, 1, 0};
int Compass_Op5 [3][3] = {-1,-1,-1,  0,0, 0,  1, 1, 1};
int Compass_Op6 [3][3] = {-1,-1, 0, -1,0, 1,  0, 1, 1};
int Compass_Op7 [3][3] = {-1, 0, 1, -1,0, 1, -1, 0, 1};
int Compass_Op8 [3][3] = { 0, 1, 1, -1,0, 1, -1,-1, 0};

void Compass (row,col)
int row,col;
{
  int value;
  int op_rows, op_cols;
  int Compass1,Compass2,Compass3,Compass4;
  int Compass5,Compass6,Compass7,Compass8;

  Compass1 = Compass2 = Compass3 = Compass4 = 0;
  Compass5 = Compass6 = Compass7 = Compass8 = 0;

  for (op_rows = -1; op_rows < 2; op_rows++)
    for (op_cols = -1; op_cols < 2; op_cols++)
      {
	if (((row + op_rows) >= 0) && ((col + op_cols) >= 0))
	  {

	    Compass1 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op1 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass2 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op2 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass3 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op3 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass4 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op4 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass5 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op5 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass6 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op6 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass7 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op7 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];
	    Compass8 += ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols]) *
	                       Compass_Op8 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1];

	  }
      }
  if (Compass1 < Compass2)
    value = Compass2;
  else
    value = Compass1;
  if (value < Compass3)
    value = Compass3;
  if (value < Compass4)
    value = Compass4;
  if (value < Compass5)
    value = Compass5;
  if (value < Compass6)
    value = Compass6;
  if (value < Compass7)
    value = Compass7;
  if (value < Compass8)
    value = Compass8;

  Magnitude_Image [row][col] = (char) value;
}

void Laplace1 (row,col)
int row,col;
{
  int op_rows, op_cols;

  Magnitude_Image [row][col] = 0;
  for (op_rows = -1; op_rows < 2; op_rows++)
    for (op_cols = -1; op_cols < 2; op_cols++)
      if (((row + op_rows) >= 0) && ((col + op_cols) >= 0))
	Magnitude_Image [row][col] =
	  (char) ((int)Magnitude_Image [row][col] +
		  ((int) Input_Image [row + op_rows][col + op_cols] *
		   Laplace_Op1 [op_rows + 1][op_cols + 1]));
}

main  ()
{
  FILE *Original_Image_fp;
  FILE *Laplace1_mag_fp,*Laplace2_mag_fp,*Laplace3_mag_fp;
  FILE *Compass_mag_fp;

  int row, col, Algo_Count;

  Original_Image_fp = fopen ("INPUT.IMAGE","rb");

  Laplace1_mag_fp = fopen ("Laplace1_Magnitude","wb");
  Compass_mag_fp = fopen ("Compass_Magnitude","wb");

  fread ((unsigned char *) Input_Image,sizeof(unsigned char),IMAGEHEIGHT * IMAGEWIDTH,Original_Image_fp);
  for (Algo_Count = 0; Algo_Count < 2;Algo_Count ++)
    {
      for (row = 0; row < IMAGEHEIGHT; row++)
	for (col = 0; col < IMAGEWIDTH; col++)
	  if (!Algo_Count)
	    Laplace1 (row,col);
	  else
	    Compass (row,col);

      if (!Algo_Count)
	fwrite(Magnitude_Image,sizeof(char),IMAGEHEIGHT * IMAGEWIDTH,Laplace1_mag_fp);
      else
	fwrite(Magnitude_Image,sizeof(char),IMAGEHEIGHT * IMAGEWIDTH,Compass_mag_fp);
    }
}


My Beckman died a few days ago, thanks do about a 4 or 5 foot drop onto a
lab table.  !@#!@$#!@$@#$  Probably not indicative of anything, but I've
already filled out the requisition for a Fluke 87. :-)

Oh yeah, and sometimes our measurements here do count.  Not often, but often
enough that I want at least _one_ good meter!


Jan> Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.244.49.156

Jan> On a related note, how can I use xv to display colored GIFs on my
Jan> root display with HP Vue?

Jan> All I can do with Vue is display xbm's through their
Jan> Backdrop Style Manager.

Jan> xv does not seem to be able to override whatever Vue
Jan> puts there.

I suspect this is because VUE creates a window (probably OverrideRedirect)
that is the size of (or larger than) the Root Window. Because the window
manager does not know about this, you cannot move, resize etc. it. xv in the
mean time is busy changing your root window to whatever you have requested
but you never get to see it because VUE's window is overlaid on top of the root
window.

Contact HP support and see whether VUE can support coloured bitmap format
such as xpm, if they cant then they probably create all their coloured
backdrops inside the code.


Anyone out there have a Sony 1304S?

I have one, and it's very nice, however - If I run it in 16" mode, the
picture won't
go very big. I end up with about 1" gap either side, and .5" top &
bottom. I suspect
an internal adjustment would fix this. Anyone tried it?

Another problem is sub-brightness: Areas that are meant to be black (or
off the main
raster) are not very black. The real raster is quite visible when the
screen is blanked.
This is not too severe, but it is just not as good as other Trini screens
I have
used. If I turn the brightness/contrast down so that the raster is not
visible, the
real image virtually disappears!

The raster size is just right if I use 1024*768, but 100dpi+ is a bit too
much!

Oh, and I am using a RasterOps 24XLi card.

Thanks

Marcus Bointon
marcus@meridian.demon.co.uk
-------------------------------------------------------
   Marcus Bointon                   Tel 081 852 6662
   marcus@meridian.demon.co.uk      Fax 081 244 5422
"I used Windows for a week once, but I feel better now"


I am going to be getting a C650 soon, but I don;t want Apple
to come out with the Cyclones and the Tempest in a month
and have the price drop on the system I want.  I have negotiated a
good deal with a supplier for a C650 8/80 and I would like to jump on it,
but, again, I don't want the price drop to smuther me.  BTW, the deal
I have is a C650 8/80 with mouse for $2295... does anyone know of a better
deal?

thanks,


It does give privacy, just not absolute privacy.  The announcement was very
up front about this, and about allowing wiretaps.  How is this "fooling"
anyone?

Sure.  The two don't interoperate.  You couldn't talk to, say, a Cylink phone
from a Clipper phone.  I would expect even multiprotocal phones to come with
indicators saying which kind of link encryption is in use...

So start a company and build them.  This is still mostly a capitalist
economy...

I agree.  Go for it.