It was a gift from God.  I think basically the reasoning was that the
tradition in the Church held that Mary was also without sin as was Jesus.
As the tenets of faith developed, particularly with Augustine, sin was
more and more equated with sex, and thus Mary was assumed to be a virgin
for life (since she never sinned, and since she was the spouse of God, etc.)
Since we also had this notion of original sin, ie. that man is born with
a predisposition to sin, and since Mary did not have this predisposition
because she did not ever sin, she didn't have original sin.  When science
discovered the process of conception, the next step was to assume that
Mary was conceived without original sin, the Immaculate Conception.

Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at Lourdes.  She
refered to herself as the Immaculate Conception.  Since a nine year old
would have no way of knowing about the doctrine, the apparition was deemed
to be true and it sealed the case for the doctrine.

RCs hold that all revelation comes from two equally important sources, that
being Sacred Scripture and Holy Tradition.  In this case, mostly tradition.


Name            Pos   AB    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    RS    SB    E    AVG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boston          OF    12    7                        2     6              .583
Galarraga       1B    28   13     3           1      9     2              .464
Tatum           3B     5    2     1                                       .400
Cole            CF    24    9           1            2     8     2        .375
E. Young        2B    28    9     1     1     1      5    10     5    3   .321
Hayes           3B    25    7     1           2      5     2     1    2   .280
Murphy          OF     4    1                        1                    .250
Bichette        RF    21    5                 1      5     3     1        .238
Clark           LF    24    5     2                        2          1   .208
Girardi          C    25    5     1     1            3     2              .200
Castilla        SS     6    1                                         1   .167
Benavides       SS    18    1                        2     1          4   .056
G. Young        OF     1                                   1              .000
PITCHERS         P    12                                                  .000
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals               233   65     9     3     5     34    37     9   11   .279

Name            L/R   IP    H    R    ER    K    BB    ERA    W    L    S
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne            L     2.7  3    0     0    3     2    0.00   0    0    0
Aldred           L     5    4    3     1    1     6    1.80   0    0    0
Smith            R    12.3 15    3     3    2     3    2.19   1    1    0
Ashby            R     5    6    2     2    3     5    3.60   0    0    0
Neid             R    12   15    6     6    5     8    4.50   1    1    0
Parrett          R     5.7  7    3     3    7     3    4.76   0    0    0
Blair            R     5.3  7    5     3    2     3    5.06   0    0    0
Henry            L     6    9    6     5    4     1    7.50   0    1    0
Ruffin           L     3    7    6     5    3     4   15.00   0    1    0
Reed             R     2.7  7    7     7    1     3   23.63   0    0    0
Holmes           R     1.3  6   10     9    1     4   60.75   0    1    0


  I found it very interesting that Atlas depended on pressure to
maintain tank geometry....leads me to the question: ? have any
of the SSTO concepts explored pressurized tankage such that the
launch configuration would be significantly different from the
reentry one?  I have long been facinated by pnumatic structures
as conceived and built by Frei Otto and others, a "ballon" tank
SSTO sounds very clever.


Hello world, does anyone know of a Postscript PPD for a Versatec
A0-size plotter, which is generally accessed via a ZEH Postscript
interpreter?  Replies by e-mail very gratefully received - this is
proving to be quite a tricky one.

_________________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. Nielsen                        Internet : anielsen@DIALix.oz.au
Advanced Systems Consultant              AppleLink: AUST0278
AppleCentre Perth
69 Adelaide Tce                                        Tel: +61-9-2214511
PERTH WA 6004   AUSTRALIA                              FAX: +61-9-2212527


Likewise for me please. First time I've hear of it, but I've beem looking
for something like this for the past few months.


I am presently doing a masters thesis to do with traffic intersections in
New Zealand but a lot of the books I am researching from, are from America or
Australia and so I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what the road
rules are in either country with regard to intersections.

Thanks
Julian Visch
jsv@math.canterbury.ac.nz


What about U. Johnny Hodapp, the greatest 2nd baseman in Cleveland Indians
history?  225 hits in 1930, consistantly over .300.  A great, great second baseman.


I am looking for a WINDOW 3.1 driver  for
     Cornerstone  DualPage (Cornerstone Technology, Inc)
video card. Does  anybody know, that has these?  Is there one?

Thanks for any info,

To~nis


Organization: Compact Solutions, Canberra ACT Australia

 >    Hello, my question is could someone E-mail me the
 > names of manufactures
 > of the 16550 and predecsor UARTs.   I have only seen

National Semiconductor are one that I know of.

Cheers,
Ben
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ben Elliston
Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering)
University of Canberra

Email:      tp923021@jarrah.canberra.edu.au

Also:       ellib@cbr.cpsg.com.au
UUCP:       ..!uunet!munnari!sserve.adfa.oz.au!compsol!root
FidoNet:    3:620/262
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If a train station is where the train stops, what's a workstation?!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


IBM has displayed a 486DX3/99 as a *TECHNOLOGY DEMO*.

This effectivly means - "here's some neat technology". It is not
a commitment to make such an item...

Guy


Fact or rumor....?  Madalyn Murray O'Hare an atheist who eliminated the
use of the bible reading and prayer in public schools 15 years ago is now
going to appear before the FCC with a petition to stop the reading of the
Gospel on the airways of America.  And she is also campaigning to remove
Christmas programs, songs, etc from the public schools.  If it is true
then mail to Federal Communications Commission 1919 H Street Washington DC
20054 expressing your opposition to her request.  Reference Petition number


(Frank DeCenso)

How incredibly fucking stupid.  Of *course* the text is referring to the city
itself (buildings, bricks, mortar, etc.)  Otherwise it makes no sense to
refer to the future of Tyre as being reduced to nothing but a _place_ to spread
fishing nets.


As usual, when Salah is not totally racist, she manages to get
virtually all the facts wrong.

Assad pledged to allow Jews to leave Syria, but not to go to Israel.

Unfortunately, not all of them have escaped yet, but not because they
don't want to leave;  rather, Assad went back on his word and stopped
issuing travel permits.  He claimed bureaucratic snags, but everyone
knows it was a tactic to pressure Israel.


I may be an anarchist nutcase, but I wouldn't have frothed overmuch
had the government proposed a secure encryption standard.  In fact,
if the NSA had come up with a privacy chip rather than a wiretap
chip, I would have been happy.  They *could* have done this -- set
up an ANSI committee, picked a secure cryptosystem, defined a
protocol and interface, and said, "Hey, start building them."

Instead we have a deliberately brain-dead version of a cryptosystem
that has not even been peer reviewed.  Yes, the NSA owns some smart
people.  But if they pulled a FEAL, well, AT&T is going to be left
with a lot of dud phones on its hands.

Heh heh.  The government already gave it up for us.  Remember in the
announcement they described this scheme as balancing the two
extremes of having no privacy and claiming that citizens had a
Constitutional right to encryption?

So much for Clinton's support of the "right of privacy".


Help....

I need to implement COM3 and COM4 on a board that I'm designing and I'm
finding it dificult to track down a definition (hardware that is) of COM3
and COM4.

I have the IO adresses and the fact that COM3 shares IRQ4 with COM1 and COM4
shares IRQ3 with COM2, except exactly how this IRQ sharing is done is not
clear especially if the existing COM1/2 does not allow IRQ sharing. Does the
standard??? allow for a different IRQ to be used and if so how.

Please answer by email to :-

      neil@stone.oz.au

thanks in advance


Last week I asked for help in getting an old homemade amp working with
my Sun CD-ROM drive. It turns out that the channel I was testing with
was burned out in the amp. The other channel works fine.

So now I need a new amplifier chip. My local Radio Shack no longer
carries components! The chip is a 12 pin SIP (?) labelled with BA5406
and then "502 515" below that.

Does anyone have a source? Thanks,


Hey all:

I just moved to NYC and wondered if there are any electronics hackers
out there who could point me to places in NYC that sell individual
electronic components (switches, pots, transformers, caps,
transistors, etc.)  "Radio Shack" doesn't count (they have almost no
selection, and their prices are outrageous!)

I have particular interest in audio components (amplifier IC's, power
MOSFETS, output transformers, tubes and tube sockets, pan pots,
faders, etc.)

I have checked out a lot of 48th street and Canal street so far with
no luck.  Am I missing places, looking in the wrong place, or do I
have to resort to mail order?


Up to 60 microamperes  =   on hook

Over something like 10 mA  = off hook

In between = defective line, and the phone company comes looking
              for leaky insulation.


Again, you missed Jesus's point.  If you read the surrounding passages
you would understand what Jesus means by "life in the world."  But
as is, you bumbled around, asserted your standard axiom that the Bible is bunk,
and came up with the wrong idea.  Also, you do not know exactly
what Jesus means by eternal life.

Brian K., do you expect to jump in the middle of the quantum mechanics
book and understand Hermite polynomials having not read the surrounding
material?  Why do you such with the Bible?  For an idea what Jesus
means by the world, look up references to it in your concordance.  For
a good description, the whole Book of Ecclesiastes is game.  For
eternal life, check out John 17:3, John 3:15-16.  You will find that
eternal life is quite different than what you think.  Eternal life
starts NOW--an infinitely high quality of life living in fellowship
with God.

If my diety exists, you would not just cease to exist.  Jesus talks of
hell in Luke 16:19-31.

The truth is, is that it is not some sort of magic spell.  The truth
is is that you do not understand it, and enjoy not understanding it.

Wrong again.  Christianity is supposed to be relationship.  You
do not even know what Christianity is and you are arguing against
it.


I see no difference between Janet Reno's claim of responsibility for
the Waco Massacre and the IRA's claims of responsibility for various
acts of terrorism against British citizens.

--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>


Just curious, Roger, but since you have such a vast knowledge of the
game and the league, how come you haven't made a living out of it?
There must be a lot of demand for expertise in the field. I'm sure
you'd be of great help to, say, the Leafs as an assistant coach or
a scout. Or maybe try a career as a reporter or tv commentator...

I might be wrong, of course, and you already have.


<In article <C5Bu9M.2K7@ulowell.ulowell.edu>
<
<> [ ... excellent exchange deleted ... ]
<> It seems to me the whole reason for the Second Amendment, to give
<> the people protection from the US government by guaranteeing that the
<> people can over through the government if necessary, is a little bit
<> of an anachronism is this day and age.  Maybe its time to re-think
<> how this should be done and amend the constitution appropriately.
<
<    Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861: "This
<    country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit
<    it.  Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government,
<    they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or
<    their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it."
<
<    Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate
<    over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750, 17 August
<    1789: "What, Sir, is the use of a militia?  It is to prevent the
<    establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. ...
<    Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of
<    the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
<    to raise an army upon their ruins."
<
<So now we know which category Mr. Rutledge is in; He means to destroy
<our Liberties and Rights.

What I find so hard to understand is how come some people, apparantly
NOT connected with government or otherwise privileged, will
go to great lengths, redefinitions, re-interpretations, in a full-bore
attempt to THROW AWAY THE PROTECTION OF THEIR OWN RIGHTS under the
Constitution!!!

Almost makes me think of lemmings running into the sea during a lemming
year...

I really wonder that Jefferson and Madison would say to these folks?

<-------------------------------------------------------------
<"...when all government... in little as in great things, shall be
<drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render
<powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will
<become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we
<separated."   Thomas Jefferson, 1821

Excellent quote.


Hi,

I just compiled the X11R5 distribution for a Sun3/SunOS4.1.1.  I also
compiled the public domain xview3 (with olwm) distribution.  I have some
old 3rd-party application binaries that are SunView programs.  How do I
get them to work under xview3 and olwm?  (I tried using the OpenWindows
version 2 "svenv" program, but it did not work.)

I do not have news access....that's why I am mailing this directly.  Also,
is there an email alias where my questions can get to comp.windows.x or
comp.windows.open-look?  PLEASE RESPOND TO fwr8bv@fin.af.mil

Thanks,
Shash


Well, almost.... If I only had to solve the problem for myself, and were
willing to have to type in a second password (the secret key) whenever I
logged in, it could work. However, I'm trying to create a solution that
anyone can use, and which, once installed, is just as effortless to start up
as the non-solution of just using xhost(1) to control access. I've got
religeous problems with storing secret keys on multiuser computers.

Thanks for the pointer! It was good reading, and I liked the idea of using
several unrelated sources with a strong mixing function. However, unless I
missed something, the only source they suggested (aside from a hardware RNG)
that seems available, and unguessable by an intruder, when a Unix is
fresh-booted, is I/O buffers related to network traffic. I believe my
solution basically uses that strategy, without requiring me to reach into
the kernel.

I heard about this solution, and it sounded good. Then I heard that folks
were experiencing times of 30-60 seconds to run this, on
reasonably-configured workstations. I'm not willing to add that much delay
to someone's login process. My approach (etherfind|compress, skip 10K) takes
a second or two to run. I'm considering writing the be-all and end-all of
solutions, that launches the MD5, and simultaneously tries to suck bits off
the net, and if the net should be sitting __SO__ idle that it can't get 10K
after compression before MD5 finishes, use the MD5. This way I could have
guaranteed good bits, and a deterministic upper bound on login time, and
still have the common case of login take only a couple of extra seconds.


They must be shipping that good Eau Clair acid to California now.


Has anyone experienced a faint shadow at all resolutions using this
card. Is only in Windows. I have replaced card and am waiting on
latest drivers. Also have experienced General Protection Fault Errors
in WSPDPSF.DRV on Winword Tools Option menu and in WINFAX setup.
I had a ATI Ultra but was getting Genral Protection Fault errors
in an SPSS application. These card manufactures must have terrible
quality control to let products on the market with so many bugs.
What a hassle. Running on Gateway 2000 DX2/50.
Thx Dave L


Here are some selected excerpts of the invitation/registration form they
sent me. Retyped without permission, all typo's are mine.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Low-Cost Lunar Access: A one-day conference to explore the means and
benefits of a rejuvenated human lunar program.

Friday, May 7, 1993
Hyatt Regency - Crystal City Hotel
Arlington, VA

ABOUT THE CONFERENCE
The Low-Cost Lunar Access conference will be a forum for the exchange of
ideas on how to initiate and structure an affordable human lunar program.
Inherent in such low-cost programs is the principle that they be
implemented rapidly and meet their objectives within a short time
frame.

[more deleted]

CONFERENCE PROGRAM (Preliminary)

In the Washington Room:

  9:00 - 9:10 a.m.     Opening Remarks
    Dr. Alan M. Lovelace

  9:10 - 9:30 a.m.     Keynote Address
    Mr. Brian Dailey

  9:30 - 10:00 a.m.    U.S. Policy Outlook
    John Pike, American Federation of Scientists

  A discussion of the prospects for the introduction of a new low-cost
  lunar initiative in view of the uncertain direction the space
  program is taking.

  10:00 - 12:00 noon   Morning Plenary Sessions

  Presentations on architectures, systems, and operational concepts.
  Emphasis will be on mission approaches that produce significant
  advancements beyond Apollo yet are judged to be affordable in the
  present era of severely constrained budgets

In the Potomac Room

  12:00 - 1:30 p.m.    Lunch
    Guest Speaker: Mr. John W. Young,
    NASA Special Assistant and former astronaut

In the Washington Room

  1:30 - 2:00 p.m.     International Policy Outlook
    Ian Pryke (invited)
    ESA, Washington Office

  The prevailing situation with respect to international space
  commitments, with insights into preconditions for European
  entry into new agreements, as would be required for a cooperative
  lunar program.

  2:00 - 3:30 p.m.     Afternoon Plenary Sessions

  Presentations on scientific objectives, benefits, and applications.
  Emphasis will be placed on the scientific and technological value
  of a lunar program and its timeliness.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a registration form and the fee is US$75.00. The mail address
is

     American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics
     Dept. No. 0018
     Washington, DC 20073-0018

and the FAX No. is:

     (202) 646-7508

or it says you can register on-site during the AIAA annual meeting
and on Friday morning, May 7, from 7:30-10:30

Sounds interesting. Too bad I can't go.


Congratulations also are due to the Hamas activists who blew up the
World Trade Center, no?  After all, with every American that they put

in the grave they are underlining the USA's bankrupt imperialist
policies.  Go HAmas!

Blah blah blah blah blah

Brad, you are only asking that that violence that you love so much
come back to haunt you...............


I think one (not ideal) solution is to use the
tracing utility (can't remember the name, sorry!)
included in the Corel Draw s/w pack.  It can convert
bitmaps to Corel art format.  These can then be
imported into a drawing rather than the bitmap.
Result - the file is completely in Corel format and
can be SCODAL'ed no problem!

BUT the slight problem with this, which makes the
solution less than idea, is that the trace utility
spits out many more points than are necessary to
define the shapes being traced.  Straight lines and
curves are both traced as many short segments.

So... the SCODAL taking *much* longer to
image.

The obvious solution is time-consuming - stripping
out the extra points by hand using Corel.

OUCH!
I've done it a few times :-]

                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As I say, if you don't mind the problems, go via the route...
BITMAP -> COREL (VIA TRACE) ->
HAND TRIMMING (USING COREL)!!! ->
COMBINE WITH MAIN COREL PIC (VIA IMPORT) -> SCODAL


I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in
reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering
reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is
interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda.


I just put one in my machine last week.  I have an AST 486/66.  I was
getting ~10million winmarks with my Diamond SS24, and the #9 board is
doing ~20million winmarks.  From my brief experiences with it, i'm very
satisfied.  BTW, this is with Win 3.1.


...

I seriously doubt that any practical implementation of this proposal would
place the onus on the individual to register keys.  Realistically, the
Clipper-Chip will probably emit an ID code which will serve as the identifier
when requesting the key fragments.  The chip manufacturer would register
this identifier code vs. key combination when the chip is made and the
(uninitiated) end-user can therefore remain completely outside the loop.
The chip could be used in a cellular phone, a modem, or other device --
it really makes no difference:  When the authorities detect the use of this
encryption standard during surveillance, they would then capture the ID
and apply for the key in order to decrypt the data.


Well, I don't recall assuming anything, except perhaps that the columnist
who reported the incident was telling the truth i.e. the sarcastic impression
came from _him_ (Steve Simmons?).  Besides, to my knowledge Alex has a pretty
fair grasp of the English language...and his recent comment after the Detroit
game would indicate that this remark _is_ what I think it to be.  Very low.


Does anyone have a file manager that runs under UNIX/X11R5??

brians


Remember roads in America are NOT designed for speeds above 80 meaning they
would be safe at 55-65. Roads like the Autobahn are smoother, straiter,
wider and slightly banked.

Example: A few months back I was traveling late at  night ( 3:00 am or so)
and I was changing highways at a bent crosssing. It  curved off to the south
east becoming hidden by trees after about 1,000 ft and continued to the
left strait north. I wanted to turn north, checked the south lane, rolled
into the crossing and checked the north lane. Nevertheless there wasn't
a car in sight, so I took one last look and pulled into the left hand lane.
Now my car isn't a 5 sec 0-60 performer but I was in the corect lane and
over 40 in decent time, even at 3:00 I wasn't wasting time. It was then
that I checked my mirror and saw a Mustang closing in my lane *FAST*, he
had just turned the corner and was just noticing me. Luckly he saw me and
changed lanes in time, I estamate he was moving in excess of 90 or so.
I was just a by stander, I had no chance of runing from him, or moving out
of his way. I'm glad he saw my brake lights in time. I shudder to
think of what would have happened had I wainted to pull out and not
left the time he needed to dodge me.

Rule: Just because your car can do 100+, and  your way is clear,
don't assume it will stay that way.


Mixers have a wide variety of implementations; the Mini-Circuits
part you mention is a doubly-balanced diode mixer, but active ones
(BJT, FET) seem more popular in consumer receivers.  You might
call MCL; they have a nice catalog.

The universal answer for wide-coverage, theory+practice, RF design
is the _ARRL Handbook_, published by the American Radio Relay
League, the radio amateur organization.  Any technical bookstore
can order you one.  The book is superb, with lots of accessible
theory, construction projects, and generally interesting stuff.

You might also check out _Solid State Design for the Radio Amateur_
(I think), by Hayward and <someone>.  This has sharper design
and test information about subsystems like mixers.


Ok, here's what I understand:

The SL/SL1/SL2/SW1/SW2 was meant to compete with the following cars:

Honda Civic
Toyota Tercel (SL,SL1)
Toyota Corolla (SL1,SL2)
Nissan Sentra
Mazda 323/Protoge'
Subaru Loyale/Impreza
Isuzu Stylus
Geo Prizm
Ford Escort
Mercury Tracer
Mistubishi Mirage
Plymouth/Dodge Colt

Their core competition is the Civic, Corolla, and Sentra.  Most of the other
models are in the same class, but aren't the first cars you would think of.
I threw in the Escort/Tracer because it has a good amount of Japanese
technology and has similar reliability stats.  I didn't include domestic small
cars such as the Cavalier, Sunbird, Shadow, Sundance, Tempo, and Topaz, since I
think Saturn is going after cars that have at least some degree of Japanese
roots.

The SC1/SC2 was meant to compete against the following cars:

Toyota Paseo
Honda Civic Si/Civic Coupes/del Sol Si
Nissan NX1600/NX2000
Mazda MX-3
Isuzu Impulse
Geo Storm
Ford Escort GT

If you look at the prices of these cars, they're more expensive than they're
4-door counterparts.  The is good reason for this.  It is a more upscale and
trend-driven market.  Even though many of these models are based on sedan
platforms, their interior, etc. is good enough to warrant slightly higher
prices.  Here are some of the platform derivations I can think of:

Tercel -> Paseo
Sentra -> NX1600/NX2000
Civic -> del Sol
323 -> MX-3 (not sure on this one)
Stylus -> Impulse/Storm

To illustrate, a Tercel starts at around $8000, while the Paseo starts at
around $11,000.  Even a 4-door Tercel will cost less than a 2-door Paseo.  Now,
you might be saying that the Tercel doesn't offer the power that some 4-doors
offer.  What I mean is that there is no 4-dr Tercel with a comparable
powerplant as its sport coupe derivative.  Let's take another example: the
Isuzu Stylus XS and Impulse XS/Storm GSi.  Both have the same powerplants (a
1.6L 140hp engine), but the smaller 2-dr coupes are generally more expensive.
Again, this is because the two-door sport coupe market is a more
fashion-oriented and trend-setting segment.  People are willing to pay more
money for this type of car.

In short, even though the SC1/SC2 may be smaller, hence "less" car, it's market
orientation dictates a slightly higher price than its mechanically equivalent
sedan (SL1/SL2) version.

I hope this clears things up a bit......


On the other hand, it would be kind of scary if there were *never* a final
verdict, because a party to litigation could keep saying "Oops!  I forgot
to bring up this evidence," and demand a new trial.  You get one bite at
the apple.

It's up to General Motors to find those witnesses in the first litigation.
You'd be up in arms if a plaintiff suing General Motors pulled the same
stunt and made them relitigate an issue that they already lost.  It's not
as if General Motors couldn't file enough discovery motions to delay the
trial until they found all the witnesses they wanted.

Define "obvious bias."

Did GM move for a new trial on those grounds?  No?  Perhaps they had a
reason?


There is a wonderful book by Jean Meeus called
"Astronomical Algorithms," (1991) which I am fairly sure
contains an algorithm for sunrise and sunset times.

Dan Asimov
Mail Stop T045-1
NASA Ames Research Center
Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000


And the two simplest refutations are these:

(1)  What impact?  The only record of impact comes from the New Testament.
I have no guarantee that its books are in the least accurate, and that
the recorded "impact" actually happened.  I find it interesting that no other
contemporary source records an eclipse, an earthquake, a temple curtain
being torn, etc.  The earliest written claim we have of Jesus' resurrection
is from the Pauline epistles, none of which were written sooner than 20 years
after the supposed event.

(2)  It seems probable that no one displayed the body of Jesus because no
one knew where it was.  I personally believe that the most likely
explanation was that the body was stolen (by disciples, or by graverobbers).
Don't bother with the point about the guards ... it only appears in one
gospel, and seems like exactly the sort of thing early Christians might make
up in order to counter the grave-robbing charge.  The New Testament does
record that Jews believed the body had been stolen.  If there were really
guards, they could not have effectively made this claim, as they did.


I read sometime in the last couple of weeks, an article which desribed how to play PC sound
through a soundblaster. I didn't save the article and all old articles have been purged from
our system here.

Would whomever posted the article detailing where to connect the wires please re-post?

Specifically, I need to know where to connect wires from the PC speaker to the SB card.


When using Photoshop is there anyway to get an elliptical dot for the
halftone screen rather than a round dot ? My printer would prefer an
elliptical dot, but I'm not sure how to set it up. I'm sending from a Mac
IIci to a Linotronic L300 imagesetter and I am using Photoshop 2.0.1 to
make my separations.

Any help would be greatly appreshed. T.I.A.

Michael (Unscene)

Michael Maier, Computer Artist, ANL  |  [|Ú]---*Z* Glued to the veiw.


I was shocked to see that the subject of my last rely to awesley was
"Luser!"  That was certainly not my intention.  I meant to leave the
subject line unchanged.  I believe that the NNTP server I use at columbia
must have put in that subject line in protest over problems with my header.
 That was rather rude of them, but beggars can't be choosers, I suppose.

In any case, I didn't do it and I apologize to awesley for the apparent
insult.


#
#I have a question regarding the processing of program arguments
#such as the -geometry option. Since this is a standard X option,
#I'm wondering wether I have to parse it manually or whether there
#is some predefined function that will do this for me?
#

If you are using the Intrinsics, it is parsed for you.  If you are working
at the Xlib level, you can parse it yourself or you can use the following
bit of code.

static XrmOptionDescRec options[] = {
	{"-geometry",	".geometry",	XrmoptionSepArg, (XPointer)NULL}
};

#define Number(x)	(sizeof(x)/sizeof(x[0]))
XrmParseCommand(db, options, Number(options), "MyApplication", &argc, argv);

Then use XrmGetResource() to retrieve the value and parse it using
XParseGeometry().

It is probably quicker to parse it yourself from argv, however, I much prefer
using the X resource management routines to do this.

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------


A Alan Brock 4/14/93 Orange County Register Editorial titled "A case for
  repealing the income tax" got my attention.

  Some quotes:

   "... a tax on income, because of the flexible definition of that
   concept, invites the government to snoop into every nook and
   cranny of our lives. Encouraging people to snoop on one another
   and report transgressions against the almighty state, which most
   Americans deplored in Nazi or communist regimes..."

   "... Although most Americans paid no income tax at all 50 years ago
   -- withholding began only during World War II, as a "temporary"
   exigency, and in 1948 the median family federal income tax was $9..."

   "Last year the federal government got only 37 percent of its income
    from income taxes... How long ago was it that the federal government
    somehow managed to stagger along on 63 percent of its 1992 revenue?
    ... Would you believe five?..."


[... a bunch of well-meaning (maybe) cynnical text about screw-thread
	sizes, the rights of people to have their own standards,
	and the non-right of the gov. to regulate screw-threads...]

Well, as funny as your little comment may seem, it has very little to
do with your personal privacy as a citizen, and about the governemnt
being able to look at everything you have ever typed into a computer
at one point or another.

This "Clipper Chip" stuff is the seeds for nightmares to make the
Nightmare on Elmstreet cheese-on-celluloid movies look like episodes
of Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.

IF the gov establishes a cryptography standard that has to be used by
everyone, and everyone's personal key is divided into two segments
and stored at two separate, albeit easy to find places, and that key is
only 80 bits to begin with, we are screwed (pardon the allusion to the
affore-mentioned article)!

the gov, I believe, as do many others probably already have the cracking chips
for this Clipper Chip made.  Hell, they probably based the encoder on the
chip that cracks it, that way it's easier to break the code, but since it is a
classified algorythm, no one knows that they can crack it so easily.

I, for one, and quite scared of this kind of thing, and plan to support
organizations (and even disorganizations) who are fighting against this
Clipper Chip in any way that I can.

I do not want the government to be able to have access, even with a search
warrant, to my keys... and I don't want those keys to be only 80 bits long
to begin with!

-nate sammons


Is there a workaround which will enable me to print to a HPLJ4 from my
Powerbook 100? (Actually I'm going to a 4M which will have an Ethernet card in
the LocalTalk slot!!!GRRRRR). Is there some hardware which will enable me to
this easily (kind of plug and play!).


[...]
           ^^^^^
[...]
[...]

Given my desire to stay as far away as possible from farming and ranching
equipment, I really hate to jump into this thread.  I'm going to anyway,
but I really hate it.

Ed, exactly what kind of mutant horse-like entity do you ride, anyway?
Does countersteering work on the normal, garden-variety, one-necked horse?

Obmoto:  I was flipping through the March (I think) issue of Rider, and I
saw a small pseudo-ad for a book on hand signals appropriate to motorcycling.
It mentioned something about a signal for "Your passenger is on fire."  Any
body know the title and author of this book, and where I could get a copy?
This should not be understood as implying that I have grown sociable enough
to ride with anyone, but the book sounded cute.

-----
Tommy McGuire
mcguire@cs.utexas.edu
mcguire@austin.ibm.com


Experiment: From a Sun openwindows 4.1.3 xterm window log into a
Solaris 2.x machine using rlogin; now do an "ls" and get the first
character of each line display in the last column of the display
with the rest of the line wrapped to the next line of the display.

Log out and the condition persists.  Check stty all, try reset
with no effect.

Use telnet instead of rlogin and it doesn't occur.

Try it from a unix console and it doesn't occur.

(1) What's causing this?
(2) Can it be avoided?
(3) How can the terminal characteristics be reset?

Please send replies to shenk@math.gatech.edu


There was an article in Business week not more the 4 weeks ago
on this very subject.  IN fact the Volvo 850 was one of the cars
they laid out an example for.


Judging by the way the Reds' pitchers have performed thus far, it
appears to me that the zone has been squeezed to the size of a grape.

1/2 :-)


Not quite correct.  Biblical teaching expects us to celebrate the
resurrection of Christ not once a year but every time someone is baptized.
 Col. 2:12-Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him
through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the
dead."  Rom. 6:4-Therefore we are buried with him in baptism into death:
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the
Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
Those really want to celebrate the resurrection should by faith walk in
newness of life after baptism.  It is not necessary to celebrate a pagan
goddess in the process.

Paul answered your question in Romans 9.  In v. 4 he stated that the
adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of
God, and the promises were given to the Israelites.  It is a package deal.
 He goes on to identify those who are true Israelites.  Vs 6-8 makes it
plain that the true Israelites are not those who are born that way but
those who accept the promise of God.  Paul continued to emphasize that he
was an Israelite in 2 Cor. 11:22, then in Gal 3:29 he says that all those
who belong to Christ are Abraham's seed, and heirs to all the promises
given to the Israelites.  The promises come with the law.  It is all or
nothing.  Why is it that you only want to discard one part of the law?
Certainly you would want your husband to be faithful to you.  Or do you
believe that adultery is no longer forbidden?  Same law.

BTW  please give a reference for your statement that the Gentiles are only
required to observe the basis commandmants.  Could you list those
please.  Acts 15 deals with circumcision and the law of Moses which was
added because of transgression of God's eternal law (Gal 3:19; Rom 4:15)


                   ^^^^^^^^^^
I have a 92 Wrangler Sahara and paid $14.1 new (including the rebate).

                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
After driving a CJ-5 for 6 years, that fancy stuff is pretty nice.

          ^^^^^^^^^^^
I like my Wrangler, but when doing some serious off roading, it can't
keep up with a CJ-5 because of ground clearance and limited suspension
travel.  I do have a winch and would like to get an ARB air-locker in the
future.

I love the 4.0.


The little blue roller on the trackball interior is probably rubbing
against its support, just push it down the pin so that it no longer
touches it.  I had a similar problem.


I can only say that those people are wrong. The word harass means to
irritate or torment persistently; I'd hardly consider one time to fall
under the definition of persistent.  Additionally, there is no basis
to assume the behaviour is unwanted, unlike an illegal proposition.

I was speaking from a legalistic viewpoint.  What you say is true, but
the law, in order to make what little sense it manages to make, has to
make *some* assumptions.  Assuming that an illegal activity is unwanted
by the average citizen I think is reasonable.  Certainly, I would need
a preponderance of evidence on the side of the propositioner that there
was a reasonable belief that the proposition was welcome.

The number of people who participate in "victimless" crimes notwithstanding,
the fact reamins that under the law, the activity is illegal.  To presume
that the proposition *is* welcome simply because a large number of people
indulge in it is the type of sophistry only a lawyer could indulge in
with a straight face.
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...Dale Cook    "Any town having more churches than bars has a serious
                   social problem." ---Edward Abbey
The opinions are mine only (i.e., they are NOT my employer's)


A 68070 is just a 68010 with a built in MMU.  I don't even think that Moto.
manufactures them.

                                  - Ian Romanick
                                    Dancing Fool of Epsilon


I have not seen but I guess would not liked it - to me he
represents the worst of both American and Israeli politics
- but this is a matter of taste.

As for the famous confession, it is currently believed (at
least by some people) that all this adultry affair was just
invented by him in order to impress the Likkud voters (and poor
jealous Hamazah) and appear as a "real" man.


I'm considering the purchase of a 486DX-33 VLB system to run linux.
The system has an ASUS-brand motherboard.  Anyone have any comments
on ASUS motherboards?

Thanks,


I have been experiencing several end-user problems with various commercial
software packages (WordPerfect 5.2/WIN, Publish It!/WIN 3.1) and printing
landscape mode on a Citizen PN48 (the little guy) or the Citizen GSX-140+.

In a nutshell the problem is that I lose the first 0.625 inches of
information from my left margin, be it white space or TrueType font
output, and margins are not preserved on subsequent pages past the
first.

WordPerfect had a workaround consisting of using the "Default" location
for the printers instead of "Tractor" or "Manual".  They have also filed
this as a bug and are continuing to investigate it.

MS Write, of course, has no problem with these printer drivers, proving that
Microsoft knows something the rest of us don't!  Are you surprised?  I'm
not.

Publish It!/WIN is still investigating this problem, and while I was consider-
my options (rejecting the one about buying an $800 DTP package, for *surely*
they wouldn't have this problem, right?) I stumbled onto a global workaround.

WORKAROUND
----------
Go into the Windows 3.1 control panel, select printers, select your Citizen
printer driver, select SETUP, and select a custom size of 850 x 1132.  Like
magic, all of your problems will go away.

Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies!

-- Mike

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.
========================================================================


: From: caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Germano Caronni)

: >Can someone tell me if hardware compression is or is not needed to run
: >digital speech down 14.4K?  I think it is; I've heard it's not.  Lets
: >say 8 bit samples.  Would *raw* data at the corresponding sampling rate
: >be usable?  If not, how fancy does the compression need to be?

: As far as I know ISDN (call it Swissnet here, and it's being plugged in) it's
: 8 bit 8000Hz (gives you one channel of 64kBit/sec) I guess you should not go
: below a sampling rate of 6000 Hz if you want to have same quality as on an
: analog-line. Anybody knows compression-algorithms & -factors for voice ?

I've posted some info on CELP coding on sci.crypt.  Looks like you can
squeeze speech into 4000bps if you have a fast enough computer like a
sparcstation (or a Newton with the Acorn Risc Machine in it :-) )

This drops the bandwidth to so low a figure that it's feasible to run
speech over tcp/ip running on top of slip down a v32bis modem.  Not only
will this let us run point to point encrypted speech, it'll let us
run speech internationally over the internet if no-one stops us by
getting *very* heavy about regulations.  The thought of this, if the
administration realised, would probably scare them shitless.

Now of course the trick is to develop and define a standard protocol
for internet speech *damn fast*, allowing anyone who feels brave to
inplement custom handheld hardware as well as us hacking it on our
workstations.  Shouldn't be too difficult.  The CELP stuff is standardised,
we use tcp/ip streams, and a protocol allowing silences to be used to
catch up on any net lag, and also to avoid sending any data during
silences (ie it's not wise to be synchronised real-time on each end
because any net delays would add up to big voice-lags)

As for me, I'm going to press ahead on trying this stuff as soon as
I get my sparc back from being loaned out and buy the necessary microphone.
It'll save me a fortune in calling my friend in texas every night :)
(whether encrypted or not)

You know, surely *someone* is working on this.  Who?  It's so obvious,
why doesn't it exist already?  I've only seen netphone for Suns and
it didn't do the CELP compression so was restricted to ether connections.


Please point out where I have said I even _was_ a member of that group,
much less asked to be treated as such, much less insisted upon it.

Wait a minute.  You've been claiming for quite a while now that
pedophilia, according to CA state law, is a sexual orientation.  Now
your position is that the law doesn't specifically exclude it?

You know damn well what's going to happen.  Some guy in a NAMBLA
T-shirt's going to apply at a day-care, they're going to turn him down,
he's going to take it to court, and the court's going to rule that
sexual orientation is defined as homosexuality, heterosexuality, or
bisexuality.

Unless and until that court decides that pedophilia is a sexual
orientation, you have no business saying so.

Despite the fact that all homosexuals are lying bastards?

Ah.

So, for example, you are opposed to the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

There's no "for purposes of this act, the term 'sexual orientation' will
be defined as" section?  No definitions anywhere?  Did they run this
through the state Congress on an accelerated schedule or something?


I'm looking for a program that will let me use a windows
common dialog box to select a file to use when running a DOS app.

	Basically, I have several DOS apps that I use now and then
with different files.  They all accept a file as a command line
parameter, but the only way (at least that I know of) to do this
easily when running them from windows is to set up the PIF file so
that it prompts me for additional parameters (at which point I type
in the file name).

Problems are:

	1) Sometimes I can't remember where the file is exactly located and it
would be nice to browse my directories for it without having to use the
file manager.

    and 2) I'm lazy and hate to type long pathnames for files burried
several directory levels deep.

	If anyone can point me to such a program or let me know of some
other way to handle this, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim
--
	The Net isn't organized enough to be considered an anarchy


Well Bruins fans it's playoff time again.
It looks like the B's have peaked at the right time.
Getting out of the Adams is going to be a cat fight to the end.
After what they did to Montreal and Quebec, these teams will be out for
revenge. If Neely can stay healthy, and both Bourque and Moog stay sharp,
we should get to see Neely finally take out two years of frustration
on Ulf (I don't fight) Samuelson. I don't agree with fighting in the NHL,
but if there is one guy who deserves to be taken out good, it's him.

This is going to be a good series, Go Bruins!!!!


I, too, have a XC68882RC50 math coprocessor, which I installed
succesfully in my Mega Midget Racer (clocked at 33 MHz). I have tried
clocking my FPU at 28 to 50 MHz and it all worked just fine. I have a
MC68030-33 CPU. I don't know why my FPU has an XC (my original 33MHz FPU
was label MC68882-33), but it seems to work fine on my system. Maybe you
just have a bad chip.

Stefan


John:

	It not "good netiquette" to quote a complete article :-) NOTHING
PERSONAL, Please! :-)

	This views sadden me too! Don't think that I don't care! Sorry
if it seemed different. It IS serious stuff; but I have a 'sick' sense of
humor though (some say... :-)

Tolerance!


I've heard that you can score on Belfour by shooting high
because he goes down a lot, and on Potvin by shooting high
on him and then getting the rebound in because he plays so
deep in the net.  Any truth to these?

			Brad


: > This is a good point, but I think "average" people do not take up Christianity
: > so much out of fear or escapism, but, quite simply, as a way to improve their
: > social life, or to get more involved with American culture, if they are kids of
: > immigrants for example.  Since it is the overwhelming major religion in the
: > Western World (in some form or other), it is simply the choice people take if
: > they are bored and want to do something new with their lives, but not somethong
: > TOO new, or TOO out of the ordinary.  Seems a little weak, but as long as it
: > doesn't hurt anybody...

: The social pressure is indeed a very important factor for the majority
: of passive Christians in our world today. In the case of early Christianity
: the promise of a heavenly afterlife, independent of your social status,
: was also a very promising gift (reason slaves and non-Romans accepted
: the religion very rapidly).

If this is a hypothetical proposition, you should say so, if it's
fact, you should cite your sources. If all this is the amateur
sociologist sub-branch of a.a however, it would suffice to alert the
unwary that you are just screwing around ...


There are two more reasons to save old databooks and then beyond two
years--obsoleted parts and better application notes and tutorials.

When a part is dropped from future production planning, such as the
National MM-series white noise generators, camera sync generators, etc.,
it will disappear from current databooks although it still may be produced
for a short time (or be available from stock somewhere). Now, if you
have some old plans calling for such a device, or you have a dead
gadget on your workbench and it has such a part in it, you'll know
the functions so you can troubleshoot and substitute as necessary.

The old GE thyristor data books contain real good tutorials on
SCR and triac applications that are not found elsewhere, for
example.

Here, here!...

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I would probobly feel a hell of a lot poorer...   a gas tank is about
50$ in a junkyard.   An engine... more!

Seriously though, my other brother, DARRELL, left his VW on the same
street...  someone stole the radiator out of it....  try finding a VW
radiator in a junkyard  :-)    I DARE YOU !

JD


Imake support for xmosaic
	=========================

Although xmosaic is a great program in general, it unfortunately comes
without Imake support. So I created one. Until Marc Andreessen finds the
time to incorporate it in an official xmosaic release, you can easily do it
yourself. Use anonymous FTP to get

	ftp.germany.eu.net:/pub/X11/misc/xmosaic.Imake.tar.z

The file's size is 3200 Byte. You will need gzip to unpack it. Have fun!

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There's a pretty good article in the the March 6, 1993 New Scientist titled
"Pouring cold water on Lorenzo's oil".  The article states that research
has shown that the oil has no discernable effect on the progression of the
disease in patients in which demyelination has begun.  In patients with
AMN (a less acute form of the same disease) there is some improvement
seen in the ability of nerve fibres to conduct impulses.  In ALD patients
who have not yet begun demyelination, the jury is still out.


Reading from a Amoco Performance Products data sheet, their
ERL-1906 resin with T40 carbon fiber reinforcement has a compressive
strength of 280,000 psi.  It has a density of 0.058 lb/cu in,
therefore the theoretical height for a constant section column
that can just support itself is 4.8 million inches, or 400,000 ft,
or 75 Statute miles.

Now, a real structure will have horizontal bracing (either a truss
type, or guy wires, or both) and will be used below the crush strength.
Let us assume that we will operate at 40% of the theoretical
strength.  This gives a working height of 30 miles for a constant
section column.

A constant section column is not the limit on how high you can
build something if you allow a tapering of the cross section
as you go up.  For example, let us say you have a 280,000 pound
load to support at the top of the tower (for simplicity in
calculation).  This requires 2.5 square inches of column cross
sectional area to support the weight.  The mile of structure
below the payload will itself weigh 9,200 lb, so at 1 mile
below the payload, the total load is now 289,200 lb, a 3.3% increase.

The next mile of structure must be 3.3% thicker in cross section
to support the top mile of tower plus the payload.  Each mile
of structure must increase in area by the same ratio all the way
to the bottom.  We can see from this that there is no theoretical
limit on area, although there will be practical limits based
on how much composites we can afford to by at $40/lb, and how
much load you need to support on the ground (for which you need
a foundation that the bedrock can support.

Let us arbitrarily choose $1 billion as the limit in costruction
cost.  With this we can afford perhaps 10,000,000 lb of composites,
assuming our finished structure costs $100/lb.  The $40/lb figure
is just for materials cost.  Then we have a tower/payload mass
ratio of 35.7:1.  At a 3.3% mass ratio per mile, the tower
height becomes 111 miles.  This is clearly above the significant
atmosphere.  A rocket launched from the top of the tower will still
have to provide orbital velocity, but atmospheric drag and g-losses
will be almost eliminated.  G-losses are the component of
rocket thrust in the vertical direction to counter gravity,
but which do not contribute to horizontal orbital velocity.  Thus
they represent wasted thrust.  Together with drag, rockets starting
from the ground have a 15% velocity penalty to contend with.

This analysis is simplified, in that it does not consider wind
loads.  These will require more structural support over the first
15 miles of height.  Above that, the air pressure drops to a low
enough value for it not to be a big factor.

Dani Eder


If the tire has a leak you should fix it.

Doesn't work too well if the engine is hot, its more accurate to check the
oil when the engine is cool, i.e. not when you are at a gas station.


Let's see. These aren't, in a strict sense, amateur rockets. That term
denotes rockets, the engines of which are constructed by the user. The
rockets you describe are called HPR, or high power rockets, to
distinguish them from (smaller) model rockets. They use factory-made
ammonium perchlorate composite propellants in phenolic plastic engines
with graphite nozzles. The engines are classified by impulse. A "D"
engine, for example, can have no more than 20 newton-seconds of impulse.
An "F" engine can have no more than 40 ns. Each letter corresponds to a
doubling of the maximum impulse. So far, engines up to size "O" are
available pretty much off the shelf. Engines of size H and above are
shipped as Class B explosives, and as such are controlled. Engines of
size F and below are shipped as Class C explosives, and are not as
controlled. Class F engines, BTW, are not HPR engines, but model rocket
engines. (Class G engines go in and out of legal limbo.)

There is an HPR Society, The Tripoli Rocket Society, I believe, which
holds events at various sites throughout the year, with all legalities
(FAA waiver included) taken care of. The National Association of
Rocketry is more concerned with engines below H, though it is involved
in HPR as well. These societies certify users of HPR rockets, and
companies will not sell to uncertified individuals.

Bottom Line: It's legit. I suggest you send for a catalog - but forget
the dynamite, will ya?


:>Does anybody in the Pittsburgh area know why Mike LaValliere was released?
:>Last year I kept saying that Slaught should get the bulk of the playing time,
:>that he was clearly the better player at this point, but Leyland insisted on
:>keeping a pretty strict platoon.  And now he is released?  That doesn't
:>make any sense to me.

Greg,

    The story goes like this:

       Spanky is too slow!  If he were quicker, he would still be here.
But with Slaught and Tom Prince, they didn't want to lose Prince in order
to bring up that 11th pitcher.  Slaught is about as good as Spanky and
Prince is coming along nicely!

      Don't feel too bad for him.  He's still gonna get theat $4,000,000
over the next two years -- he'll be able to do most of what he wants to
do.


Many of you ask me whether I approve of severe human rights
violations by Arab States becuse I focus on Israeli human rights
violations.

Let's make things clear: My opposition to H.R. violations in Arab
States is total and without qualification. No Arab State is and can
claim to be democratic. No Arab state claims to be democratic.

I am born in Palestine (now Israel). I have family there. The lack of
peace and utter injustice in my home country has affected me all my life.
I am concerned by Palestine (Israel) because I want peace to come to
it. Peace AND justice.

If anybody has legitimate claims towards Arab states, he should present
his claims and ask for support. Jews who left Arab states are fully
entitled to make claims and should do so, if they consider their case has
a merit. It is their basic right to return to these countries, if they
wish. If not, they should not complain and compare themselves to the
Palestinians who have been struggling for the right of return since
Israel was established and whose right is upheld by the United Nations
quasi totally. If Jews feel discriminated in Arab countries, they have a
legitimate claim that any decent person can and should support.

Human rights violations by Arab States don't justify, legitimate nor
are the cause for Israeli breaches of international law and human rioghts.
Israeli breaches stem from the Zionist concept, which can only be
implemented by negating basic rights to Palestinians.

Israeli trights and Palestinian rights are not symmetrical. The first
party has a state and the other has none. The first is an occupier and
the second the occupied. For any meaningful relationship to emerge, some
symmetry must be established. As long as Israelis and Jews don't realise
the necessity of a change of perspective towards the Palestinian people
and as long as Israelis and Jews don't want to exorcise their own
past towards the Palestinians (the Naqba of 1948, etc.) and refuse to
acknowledge that the creation of Israel was dependent upon the removal
of most Palestinian Arabs, there will be no base for a real trust.

When I read the first time the list of the 383 Arab villages
destroyed by the State of Israel in and after 1948, I got a shock.
I hope others will be touched by this discovery and think about the
meaning of such massive destruction and destitution.


  The MIT tapes come with documentation written by Keith Packard on the Shared
  Memory Extension to X. Look in:  mit/doc/extensions/mit-shm.ms
  I found this invaluble. Unfortunately, there is a bit of work to set up the
  shared memory segments, making an XImage from it, etc. Also, there is an
  extension query to determine if the server supports it, but you still need to
  test if the server is running on the same host and if shared memory is enabled
  in the kernel. I have written layers of convience routines which make all this
  transparent.
  As for the XView code, well, I doubt that would be considered interesting.
  The interesting stuff is done in a C object library. People interested in this
  code can Email me.

				Regards,


According to a LoJack representative I saw recently, LoJack must be installed by
an authorized LoJack dealer, and is placed in one of (roughly) 30 spots in the
car...


        Seems to me that Johns H.D. in Ft Collins used to carry some
    honest to god womens garb.>


Almost all window managers (twm, mwm, olwm and their derivates) support
escape sequences for it. For your purpose put following into your
.login (if you're using csh or tcsh), for sh you have to modify it.

if ( "$term" == "xterm" ) then
	echo "^[]2;${LOGNAME}@${HOST}^G^[]1;${HOST}^G"
endif

Note, ^[ stands for <Esc>, in vi you can enter it by pressing
Ctrl-V and the <Esc>. Same for ^G, it means Ctrl-G. In vi:
press Ctrl-V and then Ctrl-G.
The first sequence puts the string into the title bar the second
in the icon.

BTW, you can also put the current working directory in the
title bar if you make an alias for cd:

alias cd 'cd \!* ; echo "^[]2;${LOGNAME}@${HOST}: ${cwd}^G"'

greetings,
Thomas


: >What does a 200-400 meg 5 megs/sec SCSI drive cost?
: Since the Quadra is the only Mac able to deal with 5MB/s and Hard drives START
: at 160MB I have NO idea.
: For the Mac I have the following {These are ALL external}
:  20MB $299 {$15/MB}
:  52MB $379 {$7.3/MB}
:  80MB $449 {$5.63/MB}
: 120MB $569-$639 {$4.75-$5.33/MB
: 210MB $979-$1029{$4.67-$4.90/MB}
: 320MB $1499-$1549 {$4.68-$4.84/MB}
: 510MB $1999-$2119 ($3.92-$4.31/MB}
: etc

I thought you might want the latest prices:

As of MacWeek 4/12/93:
  Meg:   Int   Ext
  20M - couldn't find one available.
  42M - $159  $219
  85M - $199  $269
  127 - $279  $349
  170 - $299  $359  All above are quantum, low profile (1") 3.5" drives
  240 - $369  $449
  525 - $899  $979
  1225- $1499 $1569 - the last three are quantum 1/2 height 3.5" drives.

[ bunch o stuff deleted ]

: SCSI came FROM the high end computer world with multitasking OS were the
: standard for the most part.

Hear, hear.


My sister has an MGB.  She has one from the last year they were produced
(1978? 1979?).  Its in very good shape.  I've been bugging her for years
about selling it.  I've said over and over that she should sell it
before the car is worthless while she maintains that the car may
actually be increasing in value as a result of its limited availability.

Which one of us is right?  Are there MGB affectionados out there who are
still willing to pay $6K to 8K for an old MG?  Are there a lot out in the
market?
--


I disagree with these.  What society thinks should be irrelevant.  What the
individual decides is all that is important.

I think this is fairly obvious

Generally by what they "feel" is right, which is the most idiotic policy I can
think of.

By thinking for ourselves.


Greetings,
    I have an Epson HI-80 4 pen plotter forsale.  It emulates an HP 7570
or 7574 - I'm not sure which.  It has an option board on it that does
the emulation.  It has a serial interface with Hardware handshake. I
also have 340 Pens for it as follows:  10 packs of 4 Black Oil based, 16
packs of 4 Red,Green, Blue, and Black pens, 22 packs of 4 Aqueous Black,
7 packs of 4 Aqueous R,G,Blue,Black,  1 pack of 6 Aqueous Multi color
pens,  and 114 assorted non-packaged pens mostly colored.

    The plotter is used.  I have tested it using the Windows drivers for
HP 7570 and HP 7574 and both worked fine.  It accepts either A or B
sized paper. (8.5 x 11 or 11x17).

    I figure that the plotter is worth about $300 and the pens are worth at
least another $200 more..  One thing is certain, you won't need to
purchase any pens for quite a while...  All of the packaged pens were
sealed so they are all still fresh.  The rest were capped and seem to
function as well.

    I'd be willing to sell the pens seperate if anyone is interested in
just them.

    I'm selling it because I got a HP LaserJet and I don't need color.

    I'd like $350 or best offer...

    -Chert


gassed.

But apparently true.  My opinion, only, of course.

No, it is not.  It is possible the FBI planned for this to happen, and the
gunfire heard was the FBI keeping the folks inside.  I'm not proposing this as
the way it went down, but just to point out that it's not "undeniable" that if
they walked out yesterday, they would be alive today.

My heart "bleeds" for no one.  You are the "bleeding heart".  And I'm sure
beyond any possible doubt that you do not feel for those people as I do.  You
can not say the heartless things you have said if you did.

"they got what they wanted".  What kind of creature are you that you can
believe this?

We agree on this.  Now lets have your God, the FBI, investigated, too.

-
rethought
landed

Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com


What do you find so wrong with the flat 6 in the Subaru's, or the flat 4 for that
matter?


I have the following for sale:

TI 855 Printer in excellect working condition
 $100 + postage

Game = The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes
  Original box and contents used 1 time and
  unregistered  $30 + postage

If iterested EMAIL me at:

EMAIL = caldwell@epcot.spdc.ti.com


To Mr. Millitello -

	Listen, Sammy, can you explain why Buck pitched you in relief
yesterday?  I figure no-one would know this better than you yourself.

Jason A. Miller
"some doctor guy"


Tuesday, and the isles/caps game is going into overtime.
what does ESPN do.....

Tom Mees says,  "we are obligated to bring you baseball"

I hate to say this, but last year the coverage of the playoffs on
sports channel america (out in colorado) was vastly superior
to what espn is giving us this year.
--


	Is it that serious?  My EKG often comes back with a few irregular
beats.  Another question:  Is a low blood potassium level very bad?  My
doctor seems concerned, but she tends to worry too much in general.

___________________________________________________________________________
Alexis Perry				"The less I want the more I get
perry1@husc.harvard.edu			 Make me chaste, but not just yet.
eliot house box 413			 It's a promise or a lie
(617) 493-6300				 I'll repent before I die."
"Work? Have you lost your mind?!"
			-Ren				-Sting


  I think the legal term would be "negligent homicide"

  Well, it's nice to see someone with a brain, a general lack of paranoia, and
a willingness to put his thoughts in public.  I tend to agree with all you have
said.

  "Never assume foul motives when stupidity will do." -- Jim's Corrolary to
						          Occam's Razor

semper fi,


My girlfriend just started taking Imitrex for her migraine headaches.  Her
neurologist diagnosed her as having depression and suffering from rebound
headaches due to daily doses of analgesics.  She stopped taking all
analgesics and caffine as of last Thursday (4/15).  The weekend was pretty
bad, but she made it through with the help of Imitrex about every 18 hours.
 Her third injection of Imitrex, during the worst of the withdrawl on
Friday and six hours after the first of the day, left her very sick.  Skin
was flushed, sweating, vomiting and had severe headache pain.  It subsided
in an hour or so.  Since then, she has been taking Imitrex as needed to
control the pain.  Immediately after taking it, she has increased head pain
for ten minutes, dizziness and mild nausea and mild chest pains.  A friend
of hers mentioned that her doctor was wary of Imitrex because it had caused
heart attacks in several people.  Apparently the mild chest pains were
common in these other people prior to there attacks.  Is this just rumor?
Has anyone else heard of these symptoms?  My girlfriend also has Mitral
Valve Prolapse.


No one should EVER rely on just a magazine to determine what car they
buy, I don't care what magazine. Btw, I subscribe to three other
auto rags, I just think CU is getting a bum rap by these macho men
from hell who think real men should read . . . .

Statements like what you said above have no meaning. People keep on
saying "CU is only good for dishwashing detergent" or as you
all they say.

If there were as critical of themsevles as they are of CU maybe there
would be some real content.

john


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------------
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$1000

Quantum 240 MEG SCSI prodrive
$350

Fujitsu 90 MEG SCSI hard drive
$175

Apple "zero footprint" hard drive case with power supply
$75

ACCELLERATED VIDEO:
-------------------
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Millions of colors, FAST!
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---------
Apple Imagewriter II printer with spare print head (these aren't cheap)
$300
FAX machine: 9600 baud with leather travel case and many other accessories
$200

To discuss the purchase of any of these items, call John at (408) 268-1769
If you get the answering machine, please leave a message with your name and
phone number, letting me know which piece you are interested in.

John
(408) 268-1769


Hi!
A while back, there was a thread in this group about the use of the IWII
in Europe (in countries with 50 Hz AC current).  The consensus at the time
was that the IWII would not work there.  As I will be moving there this summer,
I called Apple to make sure and they told me (today) that the IWII (as bought
in the U.S.) will definitely run on 50 Hz AC current (as long as a step-down
converter is employed if 240 V current is used).  The same info, turns out, can
be found in the IWII manual (p. 127 in the 1989 version), but I didn't really
trust that.  Does anyone have any direct experience to the contrary?  Just
wondering.


Are you switching high level signals or low level signals like pre-amp
out level signals?  Also, are the clicks you mentioning the big
clack that happens when it switches or are you refering to contact
bounce?  How are you driving the relays?  TTL gate output?  Switching
transistor?  How are the relays connected to what you are driving?


Lloyd Pettit.

Yes, it is true that he refused to buy a franchise from the NHL for $50M; but
at the time the reason was that the established market for teams was much
less than that. He felt that no one would pay $50M for an expansion team, and
that he would simply wait to buy an existing franchise for less than that. But
the market fooled him, and 5 teams have been created for $50M apiece in the
last three years, and even the existing teams can't be moved for less than
$50M and I doubt that he could get one for that little.

Pettit gambled and lost. Now he'll have to pay more.


My computer won't recognise my disk after a reboot (Windows crash - Grrr!!)
Are there any options to restore everything, without losing data?

The drive previously had 3 partitions, but I do not remember the exact
settings.

I have copies of the boot data from the disk (PC-tools rescue disk).  I do not
want to lose my data - 340MB IDE drive.  Do I have any options?

--


: While driving through the middle of nowhere, I picked up KNBR, AM 1070,
: a clear-channel station based in Los Angeles. They had an ad
: claiming that they were able to get traffic flow information from
: all of the thousands of traffic sensors that CalTrans has placed
: under the pavement. Does CalTrans sell this info? Does KNBR have
: an exclusive? What's the deal?

: ==Doug "Former L.A. commuter" Claar

You were right the second time, it is KNX. Believe it or not, I also
listen to KNX in the evenings here in Colorado! It's kind of fun driving
through the country listening to traffic jams on the 405. Back to your
original question. Yes, there are sensors just past every on-ramp and
off-ramp on the freeways. They're the same sensors used at most stoplights
now (coils in the pavement). You might want to give CalTrans a call or
even ask Bill Keene (KNX's traffic reporter). I doubt if just anyone can
get the information, but it would be worth asking just in case you can
get it.


There is no easy answer to this question: it depends on whether the display
device can hold pixmaps in off-screen memory, and if so, how efficiently
the server manages these resources (having to deal with limited off-screen
memory is the bane of the server implementor's existence!).

I have worked with graphics devices where the off-screen memory to
main display copy rate eclipses that of the main memory to display copy
rate, and with those where the main memory to display is *faster* than
off-screen to display (requires only a write to the framebuffer rather
than a read of the F.B. followed by a write)

If your server uses the cfb code or something like it to render into
pixmaps in CPU main memory, the rates you can get through MIT-SHM are
likely to be equal (maybe a tad slower, depending on your OS's implementation
of shared memory) to CopyArea from pixmap to window, which is also then
just a copy from CPU main memory to graphics device.

One advanage of MIT-SHM is that if your images are large, you don't end up
growing the size of the server process to hold them.

One disadvantage of the MIT-SHM is that, in its sample implementation,
there is no provision for elegantly cleaning up the shared memory segments
if the client dies a sudden, violent death (e.g., "kill").  You have to
be mindful of cluttering up the system with zombie shared memory segments.

	Ken


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Netters!

I need a cdrom drive as my order was cancelled and thought 'Why not ask
the net.community'? I was ordering a Nec CDR-74 but saw so much cheaper
ones that I want to know more.
The drive will be used to install software and (if available) for listening
to CD's. Perhaps some day I'll want to use it to read the other CD's, but
that's not really relevant at the moment.

I've been offered the following CD-ROM players, for the prices stated.
They all claim to have SCSI-I, and operate under OS/2.
The drives are not listed in the cdrom-faq and therefor, please give
your opinions on the drives, i've got the impression that they're not
all SCSI. Actually the Nec was listed as non-scsi in the cdrom-faq and as
a compatible SCSI product in the os2faq.

I've calculated the prices as having dutch guilders times 2. It's actually
about times 1.8.

Mitsumi CRMC     $240
Philips LMS-I    $300
Philips 205      $350
Toshiba ?        $370
Nec CDR-74       $650

Who bought that Trantor that is in the faq? It's extremely cheap and SCSI,
so what's the trick or where can I order it (Holland using MasterCard).

Trantor T128     $200


Well, not to be picky, but the V in VLB stands for VESA.
While the V in VESA stands for video, saying the V in VLB stands
for video is not entirely correct.


Warren Brown, the Washington Post's auto writer was the first journalist
to get his hands on the New Yorker.  If you'd like his impressions of it
his review appeared in Friday's paper, in the "Weekend" section.
He is not your traditional auto writer...
Enjoy.


These utilities all include complete printed manuals and
registration cards. I need to get rid of some excess.
They're the latest versions. I've priced these programs
at less than half the list price and significantly less
than the cheapest mail-order price around.

* PC TOOLS FOR DOS 8.0, best-selling utilities collections,
includes DOS shell, antivirus program, backup program,
disk defragger, memory optimizer, remote communications
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systems, and LANS, twice as fast as backup in DOS 6, highly
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program, more comprehensive than anything included in DOS,
Windows, or utilities collections, invaluable for determining
sources of problems with RAM, video, drives, ports, keyboard,
motherboard, joystick, mouse, speaker, and so on, list $159,
sale $70.

If you're interested in any of these programs, please phone me at
215-885-7446 (Philadelphia), and I'll save the package for you.


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   From: dozonoff@bu.edu (david ozonoff)
   Newsgroups: sci.med
   Date: 21 Apr 93 16:18:19 GMT
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   :
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   :
   :
   : The fact that this happened while eating two sugar coated cereals made
   : by Kellog's makes me think she might be having an allergic reaction to
   : something in the coating or the cereals.  Of the four of us in our
   : immediate family, Kathryn shows the least signs of the hay fever, running
   : nose, itchy eyes, etc. but we have a lot of allergies in our family history
   : including some weird food allergies - nuts, mushrooms.
   :

   Many of these cereals are corn-based. After your post I looked in the
   literature and located two articles that implicated corn (contains
   tryptophan) and seizures. The idea is that corn in the diet might
   potentiate an already existing or latent seizure disorder, not cause it.
   Check to see if the two Kellog cereals are corn based. I'd be interested.
   --
   David Ozonoff, MD, MPH		 |Boston University School of Public Health
   dozonoff@med-itvax1.bu.edu	 |80 East Concord St., T3C
   (617) 638-4620			 |Boston, MA 02118

A couple of folks have suggested the "corn connection".  In the five month
period between the two seizures, my daughter had eaten a fair amount of
Kix and Berry Berry Kix in the mornings and never had a problem.  I checked
the labels and the first ingredient is corn.  She has also never had a problem
eating corn or corn on the cob but of course, that is usually later in the day
with a full stomach so the absorption would not be so high.  I do believe that
Frost Flakes have corn in them but I will have to check the Fruit Loops.  But
the fact that she has eaten this other corny cereal in the morning makes me
wonder.

Thanks for checking into this.  All information at this point is valuable to me.

Sharon


I remember this happening on the I-75 through Michigan and Ohio several
years back. A group of guys in an old beater would rear end a car,
usually out of state or Canadians. You stop and they smack you with a BB
bat. At least they didn't kill you for the sake of a car.
I think the cops put out decoys and this calmed down for a while.


Shades of the Edsel! They had pushbuttons in the steering wheel hub
that controlled the auto tranny. It was very disconcerting to shift
into reverse when turning a corner and the wires shorted.


I attended a colloquium at Goddard last fall where the head of the
operations section of NASA was talking about what future missions
were going to be funded.  I don't remember his name or title off hand
and I have discarded the colloquia announcement. In any case, he was
asked about that very matter: "Why can't we spend a few million more
to keep instruments that we already have in place going?"

His responce was that there are only so many $ available to him and
the lead time on an instrument like a COBE, Magellan, Hubble, etc
is 5-10 years minumum.  If he spent all that could be spent on using
current instruments in the current budget enviroment he would have
very little to nothing for future projects.  If he did that, sure
in the short run the science would be wonderful and he would be popular,
however starting a few years after he had retired he would become
one of the greatest villans ever seen in the space community for not
funding the early stages of the next generation of instruments.  Just
as he had benefited from his predicessor's funding choices, he owed it
to whoever his sucessor would eventually be to keep developing new
missions, even at the expense of cutting off some instruments before
the last drop of possible science has been wrung out of them.


Lot's of these small miners  are no longer miners.  THey are people living
rent free on Federal land,  under the claim of being a miner.  The facts are
many of these people do not sustaint heir income from mining,  do not
often even live their full time,  and do fotentimes do a fair bit
of environmental damage.

These minign statutes were created inthe 1830's-1870's  when the west was
uninhabited  and were designed to bring people into the frontier.  Times change
people change.  DEAL.  you don't have a constitutional right to live off
the same industry forever.  Anyone who claims the have a right to their
job in particular,  is spouting nonsense.   THis has been a long term
federal welfare program,  that has outlived it's usefulness.


It is good to remember that every translation is to some extent an
interpretation, so (as you point out below) one must really go back to
the original Arabic.  Regarding the verses relevant to nature, I prefer
to use Dr. Maurice Bucaille's translations (in his book, "The Bible, the
Qur'an and Science") for in general his translations are more literal.

Maurice Bucaille translates the portion of the verse you are addressing
as

"...Each one is travelling with an orbit in its own motion."

(Also note that "the celestial bodies" in the first translation quoted
by you above is the translator's interpolation -- it is not existent in
the original Arabic, which is why it is included in brackets.)

You're right, what the verses _do_ contain isn't all that remarkable.

However, Dr. Bucaille (a surgeon, that's how he's a "Dr.") thinks it is
significant that the above verse contains no geocentric ideas, even
though geocentrism was all the rage up until the 17th century (?) or so.
(And this goes for the rest of the Qur'an as well, which has about 750
verses or so regarding nature, I think I remember reading once.)


Top Ten Ways Slick Willie Could Improve His Standing With Americans

10. Institute a national sales tax to pay for the socialization of
    America's health care resources.

9.  Declare war on Serbia. Reenact the draft.

8.  Stimulate the economy with massive income transfers to Democtratic
    constituencies.

7.  Appoint an unrepetent socialist like Mario Cuomo to the Suprmeme Court.

6.  Focus like a laser beam on gays in the military.

5.  Put Hillary in charge of the Ministry of Truth and move Stephanopoulos
    over to socialzed health care.

4.  Balance the budget through confiscatory taxation.

3.  Remind everyone, again, how despite the Democrats holding the
    Presidency, the majority of seats in the House, and in the Senate,
    the Republicans have still managed to block his tax-and-spend programs.

2.  Go back to England and get a refresher course in European Socialism.

1.  Resign, now!

Copyright (c) Edward A. Ipser, Jr., 1993


The fact that she was wearing a miniskirt with no underwear was
presented as evidence that she was a prostitute, and the court
apparently found this compelling.

Clayton does indeed know the difference.  Greg apparently doesn't.

Because the judge found that there was some credible evidence that the
Marines were engaged in self-defense.  Got it, knucklehead?

Because, in part [REPEAT AFTER ME], "the judge found that there was
some credible evidence that the Marines were engaged in self-defense".
Hopefully, one of these days you will understand.

With respect to credibility, I would rate Clayton Cramer an order of
magnitude higher than a) the news media, and b) homosexuals.

Clayton is indeed consistent.  And so are you.


Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers,
Inc., New York (1952).
(Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5
 million Muslim people)

p. 360.

"At length all shooting petered out. I got on my horse and rode down toward
 Djul. It burned still but little flame showed now. The way was steep and
 tough, through dense scrub. Finally on flatter ground I came out suddenly,
 through alders, on smoldering houses. Across trampled wheat my brothers-in-
 arms were leading off animals, several calves and a lamb."

p. 361 (fourth paragraph).

"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair,
 large eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble
 where meal lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet
 had gone through her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between
 the breasts one clot, too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun
 dress.

 The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He
 lay face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the
 pewter bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed
 just below his neck, into the spine.

 There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was
 empty of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking
 colonel. He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead."

Serdar Argic


In an earlier article, I explained that what many people find arrogant about
Christians is that some Christians profess absolute certianty about their
beliefs and doctrines.  That is, many Christians insist that they CANNOT have
made any mistakes when discovering their beliefs, which amounts to saying
that they are infallible.

Impicitly claiming to be infallible is pretty arrogant, most of us will
probably agree.

In short, the problem is that no matter how good your sources are, if any
part of your doctrines or beliefs rest on your own thinking and reasoning,
then those doctrines are suspect.  So long as your own brain is involved,
there is a possibility for error.  I summarised the problem by writing "There
is no way out of the loop."

Someone called `REXLEX' has claimed that there IS a way out of the loop, but
he did not bother to explain what it was, preferring instead to paraphrase
Sartre, ramble about Wittgenstein, and say that the conclusion of my argument
leads to relativism.

As I have explained to him before, you cannot reject an argument as false
because you dislike where it leads: the facts do not change just because

However, as any first-year philosophy student can explain, what `REXLEX' has
written does not constitute a refutation.  All he has said is that he does
not like what I wrote -- he has done nothing at all to dispute it.

 *

There were two sentences in `REXLEX's post that seemed relevant to the
point at hand:

I do not dispute that some truths can be verified through experience.  I
have, for example, direct experience of adding numbers.  I don't claim to
be infallible at it -- in fact I remember doing sums incorrectly -- but I
do claim that I have direct experience of reasoning about numbers.

However, once we go past experiencing things and start reasoning about
them, we are on much shakier ground.  That was the point of the earlier
article.  Human brains are infested with sin, and they can only be trusted
in very limited circumstances.

But how far does that get you?  Once God's revelation stops, and your own
reasoning begins, possibility for error appears.

For example, let's suppose that our modern Bible translations include a
perfect rendering of Jesus words at the Last Supper, and that Jesus said,
exactly, "This is my body."

We'll presume that what he said was totally without error and absolutely
true.  What can we be certain of?  Not much.

At the moment he stops speaking, and people start interpreting, the
possibility of error appears.  Did he mean that literally or not?  We do
not have any record that he elaborated on the words.  Was he thinking of
Tran- or Con- substatiation?   He didn't say.  We interpret this passage
using our brains; we think and reason and draw conclusions.  But we know
that our brains are not perfect: our thinking often leads us wrong.  (This
is something that most of us have direct experience of.  8-)

Why should anyone believe that his reasoning -- which he knows to be
fallible -- can lead him to perfect conclusions?

So, given the assumptions in this example, what we can be certain of is
that Jesus said "This is my body."  Beyond that, once we start making up
doctrines and using our brains to reason about what Christ revealed, we
get into trouble.

Unless you are infallible, there are very few things you can be certain
of.  To the extent that doctrines rely on fallible human thinking, they
cannot be certain.

That is the problem of seeming arrogant.  The non-Christians around us know
that human beings make mistakes, just as surely as we know it.  They do not
believe we are infallible, any more than we do.

When Christians speak as if they believe their own reasoning can never lead
them astray -- when we implicitly claim that we are infallible -- the non-
Christians around us rarely believe that implicit claim.  Witnessing is
hardly going to work when the person you are talking to believes that you
are either too foolish to recognise your own limits, or intentionally trying
to cover them up.

I think it would be far better to say what things we are certain of and what
things we are only "very confident" of.  For example, we might say that we
know our sin, for recognising sin is something we directly experience.  But
other things, whether based on reasoning from Scripture or extra-Biblical
thinking, should not be labled as infallible: we should say that we are
very confident of them, and be ready to explain our reasoning.

But, so far as I am aware, none of us is infallible -- speaking or acting
as if our thinking is flawless is ridiculous.

 *

`REXLEX' suggested that people read _He is There and He is Not Silent_, by
Francis Schaeffer.  I didn't think very highly of it, but I think that
Mr Schaeffer is grossly overrated by many Evangelical Christians.  Somebody
else might like it, though, so don't let my opinion stop you from reading it.

If someone is interested in my opinion, I'd suggest _On Certainty_, by
Ludwig Wittgenstein.


Maybe it's just me, but the combination of those *young* faces peeking out
from under oversized aqua helmets screams "Little League" in every fibre of
my being...


Actually, the idea, like most good ideas, comes from Jules Verne, not
_The Gods Must Be Crazy._  In one of his lesser known books (I can't
remember which one right now), the protagonists are in a balloon gondola,
travelling over Africa on their way around the world in the balloon, when
one of them drops a fob watch.  They then speculate about the reaction
of the natives to finding such a thing, dropped straight down from heaven.
But the notion is not pursued further than that.


According to this morning's Post-Gazette:

The Pens will be carried by KDKA-Radio(1020 am), unless the Pirates
are playing.  When the Pirates play, the games will be carried by
WDVE(102.5 fm).  WDVE will carry 12 games, starting with tonight's
game.

In fact, after this season, KDKA will no longer be the flagship
station for the Pens.  The Penguins and KBL have struck a new
deal regarding the TV and radio rights to the games.  It seems
more than likely that WDVE will be the flagship radio station next
season.  KBL will carry 62 games on tv,  with 17 of the games to be
simulcast on KDKA-TV.  The remaining 22 games, as well as some of the
early round playoff games, will be available by "subscription tv" only.
To receive the games, you'll have to pay a one time hook up fee, and
then a monthly fee of $11-12 dollars.

Also, under the new deal, there will no longer be radio/tv
simulcasts.  There will be a TV broadcast team, and a radio
broadcast team.

No word on who the announcers will be.  Mike Lange and Paul Steigerwald
are both under contract with KDKA, but their contracts expire at the
end of this season.  KBL President Bill Craig said he'd like to hire
Lange and Steigerwald.


I tried to E-mail you, but the message bounced.

Motorola has a University Support Program through which (I've been told) folks
at schools can get sample quantities of parts.  If you'd like to try this
route, e-mail me for the address/phone #...I don't wish to post it for all the
world to see.


I understand that the new GPS boxes now have an option
known as "differential ready".  Apparently land-based
beacons tranmit GPS correction information to your GPS
receiver (with differential option installed).

How does this system work?  What frequency is used for
the land-based beacons?

Thanks in advance,


Here I am!!

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WOW !!!!
Did I discover a great BBS !!
It's called Sovereignty Lies In The People
BBS: 916-589-4620  14.4 k baud.  FREE and Confidential
! Fictitious names OK !  Subjects and files contained on the BBS:

* FIND OUT HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SCAMMING US !!!!
* State Citizenship documents and issues.
  ARE YOU A CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC CITIZEN OR A U.S. FEDERAL CITIZEN ?
  Remember there were only State Citizens before the 14th amendment!!
  One is subject to federal income tax, one isn't.
  Did you volunteer to surrender your State Citizenship when you got
  your Social Security number?  Which one are you?
* Tax laws and issues.  BEAT THE IRS
* Traffic laws and issues.  BEAT TRAFFIC TICKETS.  Can you answer this one:
  What law allows a police officer to arrest you without a warrant when
  he issues you a ticket?
* Religious truth issues.  ARE ALL RELIGIONS SCAMS ????
  ARE ALL CHRISTIAN  RELIGIONS OF THE GREAT CREATOR GOD ????
* Trust documents and issues.

The SYSOP told me that instructions to beat traffic
tickets will be on the BBS shortly.  Beat traffic
tickets without going to court!!!  The BBS is GREAT, spread the word !!!!
Also:  How come I don't hear more people talking about the
Federal Reserve Bank?  Just ask yourself these questions:

1) Why would anyone borrow money from themselves at interest?
The Federal government does * NOT * * NOT *
The Federal reserve Bank is private.  The American people are
being ripped off royally.  100% of the income tax goes to pay
on the Federal debt to the Federal Reserve Bankers.  Not one
dime goes for services.  Services like the military and
welfare come from excise taxes and the like.

2) Why do we the American people stand for this?????


Yes, I am very interested in this chip.  Please follow up or email.


I don't think there is really any question about which god the courts
mean.  The request for solemnly swearing, so help you god,
 is always made after a request to pick up the bible in your left hand
and hold up your right hand.  In the courts of NC, at least, it is always
an old and new testament.


One can't.  The application may not have been started from a terminal
emulator; if it was, the terminal emulator may not still exist, and if
it does it may be in no condition to be "pop[ped] to the top" (eg, it
may be iconified).  And even if you can, it may not do what you want -
consider a virtual-root window manager like tvtwm, with the relevant
window in a portion of the virtual desktop that's outside the real
desktop.

Some (but not all) X terminal emulators provide environment variables
giving a window ID.  Even if such a thing is present in the
environment, it may not be what you want; it may correspond to a window
on a different server, for example.

					der Mouse


What's involved in getting bonded?  Anyone know if that's an option
recognized by NYS DMV?

Rod


There is a premium of approx $200 for the controller. What is nice is
being able to run hard disks, tape drives, cd-roms and scanners of
one dma channel and interupt!

SCSI makes sense is you are going to load up a machine, if you just want
a standard box for Windows then IDE makes sense.

I have one loaded box that uses SCSI and run Unix and one standard box
that runs DOS/Windows that uses IDE.

[ By standard I mean - 486, 4-8MB RAM, 200MH disk, S3 video ]

I beleive this last bit is just plain wrong!

Guy


    It is certainly possible, and quite easy in most cases, especially
on two-strokes.  It's very common to do this on bikes where the
cylinder-mounting through-studs don't prevent the cylinder from being
removed with the engine in the frame.
    I did this when I assembled the top end on my Indian, which was
easier yet because it does not have through-studs.  Base flange studs,
and separate head bolts, dontchaknow.
    You have to use a little foresight, rags, duct tape, etc. to keep
clips from falling in, clothespins, hoseclamps, etc. to support the
cylinder while you're inserting the pins.
    (Are these called Gudgeon Pins in the UK? If so, what's a Gudgeon?)

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} How does one read the betting spreads for baseball?  They tend to be something
} like 8-9 which means it must not be runs!

that spread means you bet $5 on the underdog to win $8, or $9 on the
favorite to win $5.


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JUST MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT!!!!!

* Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith.

* The Holt Handbook by Kirszner & Mandell (copyright 1986) 720+ page writing guide.

* General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth
  edition.  Big Book! Very good condition!

* Solutions manual for Chemistry book.  Paperback.

* Study guide for Chemistry book.  Paperback.

Send me your offers via email at 02106@chopin.udel.edu


Hello, my friends and I are running the Homewood Fantasy Baseball
League (pure fantasy baseball teams). Unfortunely, we are running the league
using Earl Weaver Baseball II with the Comm. Disk II and we need the stats
for the 1992 season. (Preferably the 1992 Major League Stat Disk) We have
the '92 total stats but EWB2 needs the split stats otherwise we have 200
inning games because the Comm. Disk turns total stats into vs. L's stats
unless you know both right and left -handed stats.


Hi,

I'm interested in writing a program to generate a SIRD picture, you know
the stereogram where you cross your eyes and the picture becomes 3D.

Does anyone have one or know where I can get one?

Please e-mail to steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au with any replies.

Many thanks for your help.


I'm selling $388 worth of chemicals for $100 or I'll split it in two for $50
dollars apeice. Aprox. 380 1oz bottles. Will make a great chem set.
 Will pay shipping up to $15. If really interested I will mail a partial list.
Please contact by e-mail only


Hmmmmmm. I think I'll let everyone make there own comment on this one.

Neilson and Smith are bad. Kovalev is magical.


The DayStar PowerCache for the SE/30 replaces the CPU with an accelerated
CPU plus the powercache.  This leavese the PDS slot open for a video card.
Currenty, DayStar does not have the '040 in this configuration, but it is
due out early next year.  With their upgrade policy, you can get the '030
accelerator now, and when the '040 version becomes available, you get
credit
for the one you have.

I am running their 50 MHz version with FPU along with a Radius Precision
Color Pivot and I'm very satisfied.

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(616)957-6403         |          Grand Rapids, MI 49546


Sandberg is not particulary known for his stolen bases.  What competition did
Alomar have?  Sandberg came in a year after Ripken, and the same year as Boggs,
Gwynn, and the other magicians.  So less attention was given to Sandberg.
Alomar is the only one in his class to be worth a mediocre.  Besides the
numbers don't count.  National league pitchers are much better pitchers.

Larry                          on someone elses account
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I am in the process of modifying an X application that uses Xlib.  I'd
like to include a timer-driven facility (for network polling), but cannot
see how to do it using Xlib.  I know it can be done with Xaw, using
XtAppAddTimeout and XtTimerCallBackProc.  How do I do the same using
Xlib?

Thanks for any help.  Please email.