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limits of AZT's efficacy and now suggest using the drug  either sequentially
with other drugs or in a kind of AIDS  treatment "cocktail" combining a number
of drugs to fight the  virus all at once.  "Treating people with AZT alone
doesn't  happen in the real world anymore," said Dr. Mark Jacobson of the
University of California--San Francisco.  Also, with recent  findings
indicating that HIV replicates rapidly in the lymph  nodes after infection,
physicians may begin pushing even harder  for early treatment of HIV-infected
patients.
==================================================================

"New Infectious Disease Push" American Medical News (04/05/93) Vol. 36, No.
13, P. 2

     The Center for Disease Control will launch a worldwide network to track
the spread of infectious diseases and detect drug-resistant or new strains in
time to help prevent their spread.  The network is expected to cost between
$75 million and $125 million but is  an essential part of the Clinton
administration's health reform  plan, according to the CDC and outside
experts.  The plan will  require the CDC to enhance surveillance of disease in
the United  States and establish about 15 facilities across the world to
track disease.

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                                April 13, 1993
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"NIH Plans to Begin AIDS Drug Trials at Earlier Stage" Nature (04/01/93) Vol.
362, No. 6419, P. 382  (Macilwain, Colin)

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     The National Institutes of Health has announced it will start  treating
HIV-positive patients as soon as possible after  seroconversion, resulting
from recent findings that show HIV is  active in the body in large numbers
much earlier than was  previously believed.  Anthony Fauci, director of the
U.S.  National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID),  said,
"We must address the question of how to treat people as  early as we possibly
can with drugs that are safe enough to give  people for years and that will
get around microbial resistance."  He said any delay would signify questions
over safety and  resistance rather than a lack of funds.  Fauci, who co-
authored  one of the two papers published last week in Nature, rejects the
argument by one of his co-authors, Cecil Fox, that the new  discovery
indicates that "$1 billion spent on vaccine trials" has been "a waste of time
and money" because the trials were started  too long after the patients were
infected and were ended too  quickly.  John Tew of the Medical College of
Virginia in Richmond claims that the new evidence strongly backs the argument
for  early treatment of HIV-infected patients.  AIDS activists  welcomed the
new information but said the scientific community  has been slow to understand
the significance of infection of the  lymph tissue.  "We've known about this
for five years, but we're  glad it is now in the public domain," said Jesse
Dobson of the  California-based Project Inform.  But Peter Duesberg, who
believes that AIDS is independent of HIV and is a result of drug  abuse in the
West, said, "We are several paradoxes away from an  explanation of AIDS--even
if these papers are right."

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                                April 14, 1993
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"Risk of AIDS Virus From Doctors Found to Be Minimal" Washington Post
(04/14/93), P. A9

     The risk of HIV being transmitted from infected health-care
professionals to patients is minimal, according to new research  published in
today's Journal of the American Medical Association  (JAMA).  This finding
supports previous conclusions by health  experts that the chance of
contracting HIV from a health care  worker is remote.  Three studies in the
JAMA demonstrate that  thousands of patients were treated by two HIV-positive
surgeons  and dentists without becoming infected with the virus.  The  studies
were conducted by separate research teams in New  Hampshire, Maryland, and
Florida.  Each study started with an  HIV-positive doctor or dentist and
tested all patients willing to participate.  The New Hampshire study found
that none of the  1,174 patients who had undergone invasive procedures by an
HIV-positive orthopedic surgeon contracted HIV.  In Maryland, 413 of 1,131
patients operated on by a breast surgery specialist at  Johns Hopkins Hospital
were found to be HIV-negative.  Similarly  in Florida, 900 of 1,192 dental

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patients, who all had been  treated by an HIV-positive general dentist, were
tested and found to be negative for HIV.  The Florida researchers, led by
Gordon  M. Dickinson of the University of Miami School of Medicine, said,
"This study indicates that the risk for transmission of HIV from  a general
dentist to his patients is minimal in a setting in  which universal
precautions are strictly observed."   Related Story: Philadelphia Inquirer
(04/14) P. A6
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"Alternative Medicine Advocates Divided Over New NIH Research  Program" AIDS
Treatment News (04/02/93) No. 172, P. 6  (Gilden, Dave)

     The new Office of Alternative Medicine at the National Institutes of
Health has raised questions about the NIH's commitment to an  effort that uses
unorthodox or holistic therapeutic methods.  The OAM is a small division of
the NIH, with its budget only at $2  million dollars compared to more than $10
billion for the NIH as  a whole.  In addition, the money for available
research grants is even smaller.  About $500,000 to $600,000 total will be
available this year for 10 or 20 grants.  Kaiya Montaocean, of the Center  for
Natural and Traditional Medicine in Washington, D.C., says  the OAM is afraid
to become involved in AIDS.  "They have to look successful and there is no
easy answer in AIDS," she said.    There is also a common perception that the
OAM will focus on  fields the NIH establishment will find non-threatening,
such as  relaxation techniques and acupuncture.  When the OAM called for  an
advisory committee conference of about 120 people last year,  the AIDS
community was largely missing from the meeting.  In  addition, activists'
general lack of contact with the Office has  added suspicion that the epidemic
will be ignored.  Jon  Greenberg, of ACT-UP/New York, said, "The OAM advisory
panel is  composed of practitioners without real research experience.  It
will take them several years to accept the nature of research."
Nevertheless,  Dr. Leanna Standish, research director and AIDS  investigator
at the Bastyr College of Naturopathic Medicine in  Seattle, said, "Here is a
wonderful opportunity to fund AIDS  research.  It's only fair to give the
Office time to gel, but  it's up to the public to insist that it's much, much
more [than  public relations]."
======================================================================
"Herpesvirus Decimates Immune-cell Soldiers" Science News (04/03/93) Vol. 143,
No. 14, P. 215   (Fackelmann, Kathy A.)

     Scientists conducting test tube experiments have found that  herpesvirus-
6 can attack the human immune system's natural killer cells.  This attack
causes the killer cells to malfunction,  diminishing an important component in
the immune system's fight  against diseases.  Also, the herpesvirus-6 may be a
factor in  immune diseases, such as AIDS.  In 1989, Paolo Lusso's research
found that herpesvirus-6 attacks another white cell, the CD4  T-lymphocyte,
which is the primary target of HIV.  Lusso also  found that herpesvirus-6 can

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kill natural killer cells.   Scientists previously knew that the natural
killer cells of  patients infected with HIV do not work correctly.  Lusso's
research represents the first time scientists have indicated that natural
killer cells are vulnerable to any kind of viral attack,  according to Anthony
L. Komaroff, a researcher with Harvard  Medical School.  Despite the test-tube
findings, scientists are  uncertain whether the same result occurs in the
body.  Lusso's  team also found that herpesvirus-6 produces the CD4 receptor
molecule that provides access for HIV.  CD4 T-lymphocytes express this surface
receptor, making them vulnerable to HIV's attack.   Researchers concluded that
herpesvirus-6 cells can exacerbate the affects of HIV.

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                                April 15, 1993
     ====================================================================

"AIDS and Priorities in the Global Village: To the Editor" Journal of the
American Medical Association (04/07/93) Vol. 269,  No. 13, P. 1636  (Gellert,
George and Nordenberg, Dale F.)

     All health-care workers are obligated and responsible for not  only
ensuring that politicians understand the dimensions of  certain health
problems, but also to be committed to related  policies, write George Gellert
and Dale F. Nordenberg of the  Orange County Health Care Agency, Santa Ana,
Calif., and the  Emory University School of Public Health in Atlanta, Ga.,
respectively.  Dr. Berkley's editorial on why American doctors  should care
about the AIDS epidemic beyond the United States  details several reasons for
the concerted interest that all  countries share in combating AIDS.  It should
be noted that while AIDS leads in hastening global health interdependence, it
is not  the only illness doing so.  Diseases such as malaria and many
respiratory and intestinal pathogens have similarly inhibited the economic
development of most of humanity and acted to marginalize large populations.
Berkley mentions the enormous social and  economic impact that AIDS will have
on many developing countries, and the increased need for international
assistance that will  result.  Berkley also cites the lack of political
aggressiveness  toward the AIDS epidemic in its first decade.  But now there
is a new administration with a promise of substantial differences in  approach
to international health and development in general, and  HIV/AIDS in
particular.  Vice President Al Gore proposes in his  book "Earth in the
Balance" a major environmental initiative that includes sustainable
international development, with programs to  promote literacy, improve child
survival, and disseminate  contraceptive technology and access throughout the
developing  world.  If enacted, this change in policy could drastically
change the future of worldwide health.
====================================================================
"AIDS and Priorities in the Global Village: In Reply" Journal of the American

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Medical Association (04/07/93) Vol. 269,  No. 13, P. 1636  (Berkley, Seth)

     Every nation should tackle HIV as early and aggressively as    possible
before the disease reaches an endemic state, even at a  cost of diverting less
attention to some other illnesses, writes  Seth Berkley of the Rockefeller
Foundation in New York, N.Y., in  reply to a letter by Drs. Gellert and
Nordenberg.  Although it is true that diseases other than AIDS, such as
malaria and  respiratory and intestinal illnesses, have similarly inhibited
economic development in developing countries and deserve much  more attention
than they are getting, Berkley disagrees with the  contention that AIDS is
receiving too much attention.  HIV  differs from other diseases, in most
developing countries because it is continuing to spread.  For most endemic
diseases, the  outcome of neglecting interventions for one year is another
year  of about the same level of needless disease and death.  But with  AIDS
and its increasing spread, the cost of neglect, not only in  disease burden
but financially, is much greater.  Interventions  in the early part of a
rampantly spreading epidemic like HIV are  highly cost-effective because each
individual infection prevented significantly interrupts transmission.  Berkley
says he agrees  with Gellert and Nordenberg about the gigantic social and
economic effects of AIDS and about the need for political  leadership.  But he
concludes that not only is assertive  political leadership needed in the
United States for the AIDS  epidemic, but even more so in developing countries
with high  rates of HIV infection and where complacency about the epidemic
has been the rule.

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            First HIV Vaccine Trial Begins in HIV-Infected Children
                                H H S   N E W S
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                 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
                                March 29, 1993

        First HIV Vaccine Therapy Trial Begins In HIV-Infected Children

The National Institutes of Health has opened the first trial of experimental
HIV vaccines in children who are infected with the human immunodeficiency
virus (HIV), the virus that causes AIDS.

The trial will compare the safety of three HIV experimental vaccines in 90
children recruited from at least 12 sites nationwide. Volunteers must be HIV-
infected but have no symptoms of HIV disease.

HHS Secretary Donna E. Shalala said this initial study can be seen as "a
hopeful milestone in our efforts to ameliorate the tragedy of HIV-infected
children who now face the certainty they will develop AIDS."

Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., director of the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases and of the NIH Office of AIDS Research, said the trial "is
the first step in finding out whether vaccines can help prevent or delay
disease progression in children with HIV who are not yet sick."  If these
vaccines prove to be safe, more sophisticated questions about their
therapeutic potential will be assessed in Phase II trials.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates 10,000 children in
the United States have HIV.  By the end of the decade, the World Health
Organization projects 10 million children will be infected worldwide.

The study will enroll children ages 1 month to 12 years old.  NIAID, which
funds the AIDS Clinical Trials Group network, anticipates conducting the trial
at nine ACTG sites around  the country and three sites participating in the
ACTG but funded by the National Institute of Child Health and Human
Development.

Preliminary evidence from similar studies under way in infected adults shows
that certain vaccines can boost existing HIV-specific immune responses and

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stimulate new ones.  It will be several years, however, before researchers
know how these responses affect the clinical course of the disease.

The results from the pediatric trial, known as ACTG 218, will be examined
closely for other reasons as well.  "This trial will provide the first insight
into how the immature immune system responds to candidate HIV vaccines," said
Daniel Hoth, M.D., director of NIAID's division of AIDS.  "We need this
information to design trials to test whether experimental vaccines can prevent
HIV infection in children."

In the United States, most HIV-infected children live in poor inner-city
areas, and more than 80 percent are minorities, mainly black or Hispanic.

Nearly all HIV-infected children acquire the virus from their mothers during
pregnancy  or at birth.  An infected mother in the United States has more than
a one in four chance of transmitting the virus to her baby.  As growing
numbers of women of childbearing age become exposed to HIV through injection
drug use or infected sexual partners, researchers expect a corresponding
increase in the numbers of infected children.

HIV disease progresses more rapidly in infants and children than in adults.
The most recent information suggests that 50 percent of infants born with HIV
develop a serious AIDS-related infection by 3 to 6 years of age.  These
infections include severe or frequent bouts of common bacterial illnesses of
childhood that can result in seizures, pneumonia, diarrhea and other symptoms
leading to nutritional problems and long hospital stays.

At least half of the children in the trial will be 2 years of age or younger
to enable comparison of the immune responses of the younger and older
participants.  All volunteers must have well-documented HIV infection but no
symptoms of HIV disease other than swollen lymph glands or a mildly swollen
liver or spleen.  They cannot have received any anti-retroviral or immune-
regulating drugs within one month prior to their entry into the study.

Study chair John S. Lambert, M.D., of the University of Rochester Medical
School, and co- chair Samuel Katz, M.D., of Duke University School of
Medicine, will coordinate the trial assisted by James McNamara, M.D., medical
officer in the pediatric medicine branch of NIAID's division of AIDS.

"We will compare the safety of the vaccines by closely monitoring the children
for any side effects, to see if one vaccine produces more swollen arms or
fevers, for example, than another," said Dr. McNamara.  "We'll also look at
whether low or high doses of the vaccines stimulate immune responses or other
significant laboratory or clinical effects."   He emphasized that the small
study size precludes comparing these responses or effects among the three

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products.

The trial will test two doses each of three experimental vaccines made from
recombinant HIV proteins.  These so-called subunit vaccines, each genetically
engineered to contain only a piece of the virus, have so far proved well-
tolerated in ongoing trials in HIV-infected adults.

One vaccine made by MicroGeneSys Inc. of Meriden, Conn., contains gp160--a
protein  that gives rise to HIV's surface proteins--plus alum adjuvant.
Adjuvants boost specific immune responses to a vaccine.  Presently, alum is
the only adjuvant used in human vaccines licensed by the Food and Drug
Administration.

Both of the other vaccines--one made by Genentech Inc. of South San Francisco
and the other by Biocine, a joint venture of Chiron and CIBA-Geigy, in
Emeryville, Calif.--contain the major HIV surface protein, gp120, plus
adjuvant.  The Genentech vaccine contains alum, while the Biocine vaccine
contains MF59, an experimental adjuvant that has proved safe and effective in
other Phase I vaccine trials in adults.

A low dose of each product will be tested first against a placebo in 15
children.  Twelve children will be assigned at random to be immunized with the
experimental vaccine, and three children will be given adjuvant alone,
considered the placebo.  Neither the health care workers nor the children will
be told what they receive.

If the low dose is well-tolerated, controlled testing of a higher dose of the
experimental vaccine and adjuvant placebo in another group of 15 children will
begin.

Each child will receive six immunizations--one every four weeks for six
months--and be followed-up for 24 weeks after the last immunization.

For more information about the trial sites or eligibility for enrollment, call
the AIDS Clinical Trials Information Service, 1-800-TRIALS-A, from 9 a.m. to 7
p.m., EST weekdays.  The service has Spanish-speaking information specialists
available.  Information on NIAID's pediatric HIV/AIDS research is available
from the Office of Communications at (301) 496- 5717.

NIH, CDC and FDA are agencies of the U.S. Public Health Service in HHS. For
press inquiries only, please call Laurie K. Doepel at (301) 402-1663.

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           NEW EVIDENCE THAT THE HIV CAN CAUSE DISEASE INDEPENDENTLY
              News from the National Institute of Dental Research

There is new evidence that the human immunodeficiency virus can cause disease
independently of its ability to suppress the immune system, say scientists at
the National Institues of Health.

They report that HIV itself, not an opportunistic infection, caused scaling
skin conditions to develop in mice carrying the genes for HIV.  Although the
HIV genes were active in the mice, they did not compromise the animals'
immunity, the researchers found.  This led them to conclude that the HIV
itself caused the skin disease.

Our findings support a growing body of evidence that HIV can cause disease
without affecting the immune system, said lead author Dr. Jeffrey Kopp of the
National Institute of Dental Research (NIDR).  Dr. Kopp and his colleagues
described their study in the March issue of AIDS Research and Human
Retroviruses.

Developing animal models of HIV infection has been difficult, since most
animals, including mice, cannot be infected by the virus.  To bypass this
problem, scientists have developed HIV-transgenic mice, which carry genes for
HIV as well as their own genetic material.

NIDR scientists created the transgenic mice by injecting HIV genes into mouse
eggs and then implanting the eggs into female mice.  The resulting litters
contained both normal and transgenic animals.

Institute scientists had created mice that carried a complete copy of HIV
genetic material in l988.  Those mice, however, became sick and died too soon
after birth to study in depth.  In the present study, the scientists used an
incomplete copy of HIV, which allowed the animals to live longer.

Some of the transgenic animals developed scaling, wart-like tumors on their
necks and backs.  Other transgenic mice developed thickened, crusting skin
lesions that covered most of their bodies, resembling psoriasis in humans.  No
skin lesions developed in their normal, non-transgenic littermates.

Studies of tissue taken from the wart-like skin tumors showed that they were a
type of noncancerous tumor called papilloma. Although the papillomavirus can
cause these skin lesions, laboratory tests showed no sign of that virus in the
animals.

Tissue samples taken from the sick mice throughout the study revealed the
presence of a protein-producing molecule made by the HIV genetic material.

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Evidence of HIV protein production proved that the viral genes were "turned
on," or active, said Dr. Kopp.

The scientists found no evidence, however, of compromised immunity in the
mice:  no increase in their white blood cell count and no signs of common
infections.  The fact that HIV genes were active but the animals' immune
systems were not suppressed confirms that the virus itself was causing the
skin lesions, Dr. Kopp said.

Further proof of HIV gene involvement came from a test in which the scientists
exposed the transgenic animals to ultraviolet light.  The light increased HIV
genetic activity causing papillomas to develop on formerly healthy skin.
Papilloma formation in response to increased HIV genetic activity proved the
genes were responsible for the skin condition, the scientists said.  No
lesions appeared on normal mice exposed to the UV light.

The transgenic mice used in this study were developed at NIDR by Dr. Peter
Dickie, who is now with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Diseases.

Collaborating on the study with Dr. Kopp were Mr. Charles Wohlenberg, Drs.
Nickolas Dorfman, Joseph Bryant, Abner Notkins, and Paul Klotman, all of NIDR;
Dr. Stephen Katz of the National Cancer Institute; and Dr. James Rooney,
formerly with NIDR and now with Burroughs Wellcome.

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               Clinical Consultation Telephone Service for AIDS
                                H H S   N E W S
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                 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

                                 March 4, 1993

     HHS Secretary Donna E. Shalala today announced the first nationwide
clinical consultation telephone service for doctors and other health care
professionals who have questions about providing care to people with HIV
infection or AIDS.
     The toll-free National HIV Telephone Consulting Service is staffed by a
physician, a nurse practitioner and a pharmacist. It provides information on
drugs, clinical trials and the latest treatment methods.  The service is
funded by the Health Resources and Services Administration and operates out of
San Francisco General Hospital.
     Secretary Shalala said, "One goal of this project is to share expertise
so patients get the best care.  A second goal is to get more primary health
care providers involved in care for people with HIV or AIDS, which reduces
treatment cost by allowing patients to remain with their medical providers and
community social support networks.  Currently, many providers refer patients
with HIV or AIDS to specialists or other providers who have more experience."
     Secretary Shalala said, "This clinical expertise should be especially
helpful for physicians and providers who treat people with HIV or AIDS in
communities and clinical sites where HIV expertise is not readily available."
     The telephone number for health care professionals is 1-800-933-3413, and
it is accessible from 10:30 a.m. to 8 p.m. EST (7:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. PST)
Monday through Friday.  During these times, consultants will try to answer
questions immediately, or within an hour.  At other times, physicians and
health care providers can leave an electronic message, and questions will be
answered as quickly as possible.
     Health care professionals may call the service to ask any question
related to providing HIV care, including the latest HIV/AIDS drug treatment
information, clinical trials information, subspecialty case referral,
literature searches and other information.  The service is designed for health
care professionals rather than patients, families or others who have alternate
sources of information or materials.
     When a health care professional calls the new service, the call is taken
by either a clinical pharmacist, primary care physician or family nurse
practitioner.  All staff members have extensive experience in outpatient and
inpatient primary care for people with HIV-related diseases.  The consultant
asks for patient-specific information, including CD4 cell count, current
medications, sex, age and the patient's HIV history.
     This national service has grown out of a 16-month local effort that

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responded to nearly 1,000 calls from health care providers in northern
California.  The initial project was funded by HRSA's Bureau of Health
Professions, through its Community Provider AIDS Training (CPAT) project, and
by the American Academy of Family Physicians.
     "When providers expand their knowledge, they also improve the quality of
care they are able to provide to their patients," said HRSA Administrator
Robert G. Harmon. M.D., M.P.H.  "This project will be a great resource for
health care professionals and the HIV/AIDS patients they serve."
     "This service has opened a new means of communication between health care
professionals and experts on HIV care management," said HRSA's associate
administrator for AIDS and director of the Bureau of Health Resources
Development, G. Stephen Bowen, M.D., M.P.H.  "Providers who treat people with
HIV or AIDS have access to the latest information on new drugs, treatment
methods and therapies for people with HIV or AIDS."
     HRSA is one of eight U.S. Public Health Service agencies within HHS.

                      AIDS Hotline Numbers for Consumers

                  CDC National AIDS Hotline -- 1-800-342-AIDS
                  for information in Spanish - 1-800-344-SIDA
          AIDS Clinical Trials (English & Spanish) -- 1-800-TRIALS-A

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I keep finding these programmers in local junk shops. This may
mean that they are indeed junk - but i'd like to hear from anyone
else that may have met up with them. The basic device is a
"Data I/O 29A universal programmer", and the usual pod is a
"LogicPak 303A-Vo4" with a "303A-001" programming tester/
adapter. I'd really like to hear from anyone who knows whether
these monsters are worth bothering with. All i want to do is blast
PALCE22V10s. - Ideas, folks
Mike.


Acorn Replay running on a 25MHz ARM 3 processor (the ARM 3 is about 20% slower
than the ARM 6) does this in software (off a standard CD-ROM). 16 bit colour at
about the same resolution (so what if the computer only has 8 bit colour
support, real-time dithering too...). The 3D0/O is supposed to have a couple of
DSPs - the ARM being used for housekeeping.

A 25MHz ARM 6xx should clock around 20 ARM MIPS, say 18 flat out. Depends
really on the surrounding system and whether you are talking ARM6x or ARM6xx
(the latter has a cache, and so is essential to run at this kind of speed with
slower memory).

I'll stop saying things there 'cos I'll hopefully be working for ARM after
graduation...

Mike

PS Don't pay heed to what reps from Philips say; if the 3D0/O doesn't beat the
   pants off 3DI then I'll eat this postscript.


This is turning into 'what's a moonbase good for', and I ought
not to post when I've a hundred some odd posts to go, but I would
think that the real reason to have a moon base is economic.

Since someone with space industry will presumeably have a much
larger GNP than they would _without_ space industry, eventually,
they will simply be able to afford more stuff.


    ....

Same thing to me.  Everyday the same dog would chase my bicycle.
The owners thought it was cute.  Even after I got the moto,
the stupid dog would do the same thing.  Then one day, I was
coming home in the opposite lane...the fluff with teeth ran to
get me and played momentum sharing with a 73 Dodge pick.
The owners tried to blame me for driving down street when I did.
I lived in a wierd town.


This kind of behavior is what I was shocked by in my 'experience'. For
crying out loud, how do these turkeys think they can talk to customers
this way and still stay in business? Again, I don't expect sales people to
bow, scrape, and grovel in my presence but I sure don't expect to be
abused either. I was very surprised by the way the sales people talked to
me and in other 'negotiating' sessions I overheard in neighboring sales
cubicles. Evidently, their success rate is high enough that they continue
to do business this way. There must be a lot of people out there who are
easy to intimidate.

On the other hand, I'm not sure about the 'one price, no haggling'
approach that Saturn and other are starting to use. I guess if their fixed
price is fair it's OK. Maybe the best approach is to do your homework
before you go in. Find out the invoice prices of the car, add a reasonable
profit for the dealer ($200-$300??), offer them that price and stick to
it. If they get abusive, just leave. Then, don't let them try to screw you
after the deal is agreed on.


The XDM on Solaris 2.1 *WAS* broke. Since two weeks, Sun distributes
a patched release, which works fine (supports /etc/shadow and all).
We have it up and running ever since and have not experienced any
problems. Call your local Sun rep.

Dick.


I have a friend who is looking to buy MFM controller.
If you have one for sale, would you please contact me through
email...


From: payne@crl.dec.com (Andrew Payne)
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.004418.11548@crl.dec.com>
Organization: DEC Cambridge Research Lab
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 00:44:18 GMT

Does anyone know if a source for the TCM3105 modem chips (as used in the
Baycom and my PMP modems)?  Ideally, something that is geared toward
hobbyists:  small quantity, mail order, etc.

For years, we've been buying them from a distributor (Marshall) by the
hundreds for PMP kits.  But orders have dropped to the point where we can
no longer afford to offer this service.  And all of the distributors I've
checked have some crazy minimum order ($100, or so).

I'd like to find a source for those still interested in building PMP kits.
Any suggestions?

--
Andrew C. Payne
DEC Cambridge Research Lab
---
 . R110B:Wnet HAL_9000


Hi,
	I need xrn and xarchie for the HP's (9000/730, version 8 OS), either in
the source form or, (preferably) in executable form. Please suggest
where I can find this,
	Send e-mail to: rao@cse.uta.edu
Thanks in advance,
Rao.


Here are some recent observations taken by the Hubble Space Telescope:

     o The Faint Object Spectrograph (FOS) was used to make ultraviolet
       observations of both the planet Pluto, and its moon Charon. The
       peakups were successful. The observations were executed as
       scheduled, and no problems were reported.

     o Observations were made using the High Speed Photometer of the Planet
       Uranus during an occultation by a faint star in Capricornus. These
       observations will help in our understanding of the planet's
       atmospheric radiative and dynamical processes. This event occurred
       close to the last quarter moon, and special arrangements had to be
       made to modify the lunar limit tests to allow these observations.
       The observations are currently being reviewed, and all the
       observations looked okay.


And the initiative for actual implementation.  Clinton is not just an
innocent bystander here - They didn't just slap his name on it without
consulting him.  What exactly is his extensive history of individual
rights advocacy that people are assuming he really has nothing to do
with this?  He just went back on his pledge to cut the espionage
budget, and is now asking for more money than even Bush wanted.


Apartment for rent in downtown Moscow!!!

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One reason that the WHA abandoned the blue puck was the fact that it
crumbled very quickly during play.  The blue dye that was used somehow
affected the vulcanized rubber of the puck, decreasing its cohesiveness.


C'mon, Tommy Soderstrom is having a fine rookie (I think he's a rookie)
season with the Flyers. I'm sure most of you knew that already, but just
in case.


Would you mind posting the responses you get?
I am also interested, and there may be others.

Thanks,


Is the virtual mouse simulation in ol{v}wm 3.x available under X11R5?
I've been told I'm setting the right resource, yet it continues not to
work. I'm running olvwm3.3 (or olwm 3) on a Sun 3, X11R5 pl 22.


patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer) writes ...

Specs for the 68040 can fill a 500 page book.  Some highlights are...
32-bit address space w/ 32-bit data width.  18 32-bit integer registers
& 8 80-bit floating point registers.  8K copyback capable caches,
4-way set associative.  Typical 1.2 clocks/integer instruction.  5
clocks for a floating point multiply.

(interesting aside: the 68040 can multiply two 80-bit floating point
numbers in less time than it can multiply two 32-bit integers)

More of the same but with multiple instruction dispatching.  Figure
about 0.8 clocks per instruction typical (my guess).  But the Motorola
guys are pretty bright, it may be less.

Call Motorola.  I'm not typing it all in.

I'm predicting that both the 680x0 and x86 lines are reaching their
ends.  New experimental processors have 64-bit data pathways and can
schedule up to 8 out of 32 instructions each clock cycle.  That sort
of trick can't really be done with CISC architectures.

I finally saw some details on the 586/Pentium and was not greatly
impressed.  They've finally done some work on the FPU to get it up to
speed, but otherwise it's only going to be a 2x speedup.  And to get
that they're using two integer units, larger caches, and a branch
target buffer.  Yes, I know they're talking about 100MHz processors.
Big whoop.  Designing a 100MHz board is difficult and really
expensive.  Priced 15ns memory chips lately?


You *can* upgrade MSC 7.0 and QCWIN to the Visual C++ products as follows:

  STANDARD EDITION:
    List Price                    $199
    Upgrade from QCWin            $ 79
    Competitive Upgrade           $ 99

  PROFESSIONAL EDITION:
    List Price                    $499
    Upgrade from MSC 7.0          $139
    Competitive Upgrade*          $199

  * Includes upgrades from other MS language products like QCWin

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See subject. An opportunity for sales-people (-persons? -entities?).

I am looking for a commercial/PD graphics editor with fairly limited
abilities that runs under X and preferably uses Motif widgets. It must
run on HP-UX version 9, either with or without the PEX extension. The
sort of things I want are simple drawing, resizing and moving of objects
such as lines, rectangles and text. Bounding rectangle operations are
sufficient for object selection. Ideally it should also allow the
creation and placement of more complex objects such as widgets (e.g.
text entry fields or labels), but this is not mandatory.

Does anyone have such an animal? If you do, please mail me with details
including price (especially run-time licensing since it must be
included in a product). Alternatively, send glossies to me at Logica,
68 Newman Street, London W1, including technical info please. For PD
stuff, I have some effort that could be put into porting.

Thanks for any help,
Nicholas Young.


could
convenient
then
and
called Global
earth.
get
meters (on

Thought it means Global Positioning System. There are two precision levels, one
for army applications (killing has to be very accurate today) and one for civil
ones. The civil precision is about 20 to 30m (correct me, if I'm wrong),
though, it may be insufficiant for mapping buildings. But there is a way with
an additional reference point (e.g. one fixed GPS system in a house) to get the
same high precision as the military version, but it gets pretty complicated
then. If You use a microwave system (actually this means some type of radar),
You need quite a lot of number crunching to get accurate vectorized data out of
Your original signals. So the GPS system seems to be the better (and running)
idea for Your application(there have been discussions in this newsgroup, don't
know of an address anymore).

Cheers    Robert   (HB9NBY)


Since one is also unlikely to get "the truth" from either Arab or
Palestinian news outlets, where do we go to "understand", to learn?
Is one form of propoganda more reliable than another? The only way
to determine that is to try and get beyond the writer's "political
agenda", whether it is "on" or "against" our *side*.

Tim


Hey,
   I have some Star Trek Christmas Ornaments for sale.  They are the the
Hallmark Shuttle Craft Galileo.  They went for $24.00 during christmas.  I
am willing to sell it for that price + shipping.  If you are interested
and have some questions, please reply...


I don't buy this at all. Roy was the reason the game was tied... and that
would *not* have been the case had Dionne kept his cool.
Hextall gave up 2 very questionable goals himself ...
Both Dionne's and Bellows' shots were misplayed by Hextall, but just because
his gaffes were early in the game, no one seems to care. Roy stood on his head
for the first 15 minutes of the game when the Nords were rushing from
end-to-end. Kamensky's mini-break after the tying goal and the first shot by
Young in OT were both excellent chances stopped by Roy. Roy outplayed Hextall
for most of the game, but Roy becomes the villain and Hextall the hero
because Roy's team didn't make full use of their opportunities.

Hextall, on the other hand, had a lot of lucky bounces ... he played very
well, but the Haller shot off the post in OT, the rebound bouncing over
Bellows' stick, the Brunet breakaway, the 3 chances for LeClair ... all
those opportunities were *not* finished off by Montreal, and it cost them.
Hextall wasn't particularly brilliant on those plays ...

Sure, no excuse ... but it was just the 1 goal. The timing stank, but against
an explosive team like Quebec, they gave them 1 opportunity too many with
a powerplay that was totally unnecessary.

I disagree. Roy played well because he wasn't screened the whole night.
The defense, for the 1st time this season, played remarkably, keeping Sakic,
Nolan, and Sundin  out of the slot most of the night.

This most certainly was a team loss... Leclair missed his opportunities,
as did Bellows and Brunet. Dionne took a bad penalty. Damphousse and Lebeau
were *silent*. Carbonneau and Savard were a step behind all night. Roy gave
up the bad goal. Roy, by no means, can be singled out for this loss.

And Hextall didn't on Dionne's goal? Please. Roy is paid big money because
that is his value compared to other goalies ... and he still is in the top 5,
when you consider the defense, or lack of one, that played in front of him
for most of the season.

The Montreal media is the quickest to heap praise and then hurl derogatory
comments against the Habs. They are no better than uninformed fans. Why should
they read the papers? They played 58 minutes of "Burnsian" hockey to shut
down Quebec. All they need tonight, and for the rest of the series is the
extra 2.

Red Light to face Quebec...rubbish. That's a guaranteed way to end the
series 4-0. Who would be taught a lesson by this ?
The fans, the media, and Racicot, perhaps. Certainly not the rest of the team.

If you mean the goal should never have gone in, because there should never
have been an OT, then I agree. But the goal itself was a great piece of work
by Young. Roy had both the near and far posts covered, but Young flipped the
puck up under Roy's arm as he wrapped-around the net ... not a bad goal at all.


email your replies to:


How about your two big toes?  And while you're at it, why bother with removing
the drain plug when you could remove the dipstick instead and suck it out from
there with your mouth and then spit it out?


There is a multi threaded xlib version written.
Do an archie search for mt-xlib:
Host export.lcs.mit.edu

    Location: /contrib
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 30 1992  mt-xlib
    Location: /contrib/mt-xlib-1.1
           FILE -rw-r--r--     106235  Jan 21 14:02  mt-xlib-xhib92.ps.Z
           FILE -rw-r--r--    1658123  Jan 21 14:03  mt-xlib.tar.Z
    Location: /contrib/mt-xlib
           FILE -rw-r--r--     106235  Jul 30 1992  mt-xlib-xhib92.ps.Z
           FILE -rw-r--r--    1925529  Jul 30 1992  mt-xlib.tar.Z


  I see one thing wrong with your strategy.
The boy who cried wolf.

__
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   Arch. & Eng. Services   |"Lost Horizons"  CR500 | I think I am.
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer"   IT175 |           - anonymous


While one may question the motives of the Arabs who sold land to Jews,
often while publicly criticizing the sale of land to Jews, it was the
Jews and not the Arabs who were taken advantage of, as the prices the
Jews paid for barren land was many times the price fertile land was
being sold for in the United States at the same time.


Perhaps we have different definitions of absolute then.  To me,
an absolute is something that is constant across time, culture,
situations, etc.  True in every instance possible.  Do you agree
with this definition?  I think you do:

A simple example:

In the New Testament (sorry I don't have a Bible at work, and can't
provide a reference), women are instructed to be silent and cover
their heads in church.  Now, this is scripture.  By your definition,
this is truth and therefore absolute.

Do women in your church speak?  Do they cover their heads?  If all
scripture is absolute truth, it seems to me that women speaking in and
coming to church with bare heads should be intolerable to evangelicals.
Yet, clearly, women do speak in evangelical churches and come with bare
heads.  (At least this was the case in the evangelical churches I grew
up in.)

Evangelicals are clearly not taking this particular part of scripture
to be absolute truth.  (And there are plenty of other examples.)
Can you reconcile this?

I don't claim that there are *no* absolutes.  I think there are very
few, though, and determining absolutes is difficult.

But you are claiming that all of Scripture is absolute.  How can you
determine absolutes derived from Scripture when you can't agree how
to interpret the Scripture?

It's very difficult to see how you can claim something which is based
on your own *interpretation* is absolute.  Do you deny that your own
background, education, prejudices, etc. come into play when you read the
Bible, and determine how to interpret a passsage?  Do you deny that
you in fact interpret?


I'll take a try at this...

From the discussions I have been in, and from how *I* have interpreted
the bible, I feel that one can pray either way.  BUT remember this,
before Jesus, the people talked to God (no other way) and he talked
back.  (audible and dreams, etc.)  Today we have the bible to know
Gods will, and we have his son you died for US.  He was given as our
savior, and while we still do things according to Gods will, we pray
THROUGH his son.  In the bible it says that if we are not known to
Jesus, we are not known to God.  (sorry I do not have the verses
with me)  So, if we are to be granted eternal life, we must present
ourselves to Jesus first, who will then present us to God.

Leonard

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             NYC ACM/SIGGRAPH: UNDERSTANDING IMAGES
======================================================================

  SUBJECT:

    Pace University/SIGGRAPH Conference on UNDERSTANDING IMAGES
    ===========================================================

    The purpose of this conference is to bring together a breadth of
    disciplines, including the physical, biological and computational
    sciences, technology, art, psychology, philosophy, and education,
    in order to define and discuss the issues essential to image
    understanding within the computer graphics context.

    FEATURED TOPICS INCLUDE:

                Psychology/Perception
                Image Analysis
                Design
                Text
                Sound
                Philosophy

     DATE:  Friday & Saturday, 21-22 May 1993

     TIME:  9:00 am - 6:00 pm

    PLACE:  The Pace Downtown Theater
            One Pace Plaza
                (on Spruce Street between Park Row & Gold Street)
            NY, NY 10038

     FEES:

        PRE-REGISTRATION (Prior to 1 May 1993):
            Members         $55.00
            Non-Members     $75.00
            Students        $40.00 (Proof of F/T Status Required)

        REGISTRATION (After 1 May 1993 or On-Site):
            All Attendees   $95.00

        (Registration Fee Includes Brakfast, Breaks & Lunch)

    SEND REGISTRATION INFORMATION & FEES TO:

        Dr. Francis T. Marchese
        Computer Science Department
        NYC/ACM SIGGRAPH Conference
        Pace University
        1 Pace Plaza (Room T-1704)
        New York NY 10036

        voice: (212) 346-1803   fax: (212) 346-1933
        email: MARCHESF@PACEVM.bitnet

======================================================================
REGISTRATION INFORMATION:

Name _________________________________________________________________

Title ________________________________________________________________

Company ______________________________________________________________

Street Address _______________________________________________________

City ________________________________State____________Zip_____________

Day Phone (___) ___-____    Evening Phone (___) ___-____

FAX Phone (___) ___-____    Email_____________________________________
======================================================================

DETAILED DESCRIPTION:
=====================

    Artists, designers, scientists, engineers and educators share the
    problem of moving information from one mind to another.
    Traditionally, they have used pictures, words, demonstrations,
    music and dance to communicate imagery.  However, expressing
    complex notions such as God and infinity or a seemingly well
    defined concept such as a flower can present challenges which far
    exceed their technical skills.

    The explosive use of computers as visualization and expression
    tools has compounded this problem.  In hypermedia, multimedia and
    virtual reality systems vast amounts of information confront the
    observer or participant.  Wading through a multitude of
    simultaneous images and sounds in possibly unfamiliar
    representions, a confounded user asks: "What does it all mean?"

    Since image construction, transmission, reception, decipherment and
    ultimate understanding are complex tasks, strongly influenced by
    physiology, education and culture; and, since electronic media
    radically amplify each processing step, then we, as electronic
    communicators, must determine the fundamental paradigms for
    composing imagery for understanding.

    Therefore, the purpose of this conference is to bring together a
    breadth of disciplines, including, but not limited to, the
    physical, biological and computational sciences, technology, art,
    psychology, philosophy, and education, in order to define and
    discuss the issues essential to image understanding within the
    computer graphics context.

    FEATURED SPEAKERS INCLUDE:

        Psychology/Perception:
            Marc De May, University of Ghent
            Beverly J. Jones, University of Oregon
            Barbara Tversky, Standfor University
            Michael J. Shiffer, MIT
            Tom Hubbard, Ohio State University
        Image Analysis:
            A. Ravishankar Rao, IBM Watson Research Center
            Nalini Bhusan, Smith College
            Xiaopin Hu, University of Illinois
            Narenda Ahuja, University of Illinois
            Les M. Sztander, University of Toledo
        Design:
            Mark Bajuk, University of Illinois
            Alyce Kaprow, MIT
        Text:
            Xia Lin, Pace University
            John Loustau, Hunter College
            Jong-Ding Wang, Hunter College
            Judson Rosebush, Judson Rosebush Co.
        Sound:
            Matthew Witten, University of Texas
            Robert Wyatt, Center for High Performance Computing
            Robert S. Williams, Pace University
            Rory Stuart, NYNEX
        Philosophy
            Michael Heim, Education Foundation of DPMA


its
plate.
may

Well, there's a big difference between "just not swinging the bat well" and
what the Reds are doing at the plate....UUUGGGHHHH!!!!!

  A Reds fan on the verge of a nervous breakdown....

  --Mike

  "Why is it that the prognosis on Kevin Mitchell is 'Out 2-3 days' no matter
    what day you read it???"
                            -Gary Burbank

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  I've told you before and I'll tell you again.  The strong
   survive and the weak disappear.  We do not intend
   to disappear.

        ---Jimmy Hoffa

                  mtissand@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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Naw, the owners of WordPerfect are Mormons, and by Tony Rose's
and Robert Weiss' standards, Mormons aren't Christians.  :-)


As quoted from <c115184.734895755@assn119> by c115184@cs.UAlberta.CA (Merth Eric William):

What you fail to see is that in order to make a nightmarish stew of psychosis
and repression, you have to break a few eggs.  You the evil productive
elements in society, are those eggs....

Damn the spirit, full speed ahead....


I'd like to remind people of the withering of the fig tree and Jesus
driving the money changers et. al. out of the temple.  I think those
were two instances of Christ showing anger (as part of His human side).


I agree. I own one. Aside from the shutter, it is built like
a little tank. A very good camera. Your price sounds reasonable,
too. New, I paid $565 for my KIEV 88 Camera Kit. Good luck.


Hi,

sometime ago there are some discussions on gaining CompuServe access thru
the Internet. But I seem to misplace those articles. Can someone please
refresh me where (which site) I can telnet to to gain access.

Hopefully I can download files as well.

Thanks,


Society
those
shaky

Now, I'm not saying you're wrong because I know that the R-12 substitutes
exist, but this sounds a lot like the 200mpg carbs that the oil companies
keep us all from getting.


Hi!

When posting Winmark results, it is a good idea to give the version of
WinBench that you used to obtain the scores, as well as the resolution that
you tested and the version of the drivers.


Hello,  I am not sure if this is the right conference to ask this
question, however, Here I go..  I am a commercial fisherman and I
fell about 3 weeks ago down into the hold of the boat and broke or
cracked a rib and wrenched and bruised my back and left arm.
  My question,  I have been to a doctor and was told that it was
best to do nothing and it would heal up with no long term effect, and
indeed I am about 60 % better, however, the work I do is very
hard and I am still not able to go back to work.  The thing that worries me
is the movement or "clunking" I feel and hear back there when I move
certain ways...  I heard some one talking about the rib they broke
years ago and that it still bothers them.ÿ.  any opinions?
thanx and cheers


Thanks to aldridge@netcom.com, I now know a bit more about Stargardt's
disease, aka juvenile macular distrophy, but I would like to learn more.

First, what is the general prognosis - is blindness the result?
Second, what treatments, if any, are available?


You macinators who have used these voice messaging/FAX/data-modems.  I
have a question.  First what brand names do you recommend(I am mostly
interested in the voice messaging and FAX part).  Is the voice part as
reliable and understandable as the sellers claim?  Approximately, how
much hard drive space does an average day of callers take up, if they
speak for one minute?
Any feed back would be appreciated.  My company is looking at buying
one or two.  Hey, I may buy one myself too.

Thanks in advance
Don


Here is a review of some of the off-ice things that have
affected the AHL this year.

ST JOHN'S MAPLE LEAFS PROBLEMS
The St John's Maple Leafs sophomore season has been plagued by
problems. On-ice, the Leafs won the Atlantic Division title but
off ice was less happy. A strike by public workers has forced the
leafs out of the Newfoundland city for much of the last half of
the seaosn (since mid-Jan). They have played "home" games in places
like Montreal, Cornwall and Charlottetown. Their playoff "home"
games will be played in the Metro Center in Halifax, NS. One
demostration got violent. Workers attacked a Leafs' bus and
rocked it and broke windows in the St John's Memorial Stadium.
Despite the problems, Toronto officials insist that the Leafs
will return to St John's once the strike ends.
===================================================
SENATORS SOLD
The New Haven Senators have been sold by Peter Shipman to
the Ottawa Senators NHL organization. They are the only Canadian
NHL team with an American AHL affiliate, and have made it clear
they intend to move the team to somewhere in the Canadian Atlantic
Provinces. This sale and move has yet to be approved by the AHL
head office, but is expected to pass easily at the general meeting
in May. The quote in the story from Jack Butterfield made it
clear the league was more interested in the stability of the
AHL franchise accompanied by NHL ownership, rather than maintaining
the 56-year history of the AHL in New Haven.

The Senators are currently in serious negotiations with Charlottetown
New Brunswick and are expected to move there.
==================================================
DALLAS HELPS HAWKS STAY IN MONCTON
After announcing that they would pull their affiliation out
of Moncton, the Winnipeg Jets changed their mind.

The Jets announced the move when they said that they would be slashing
their minor league roster from 20-something to around a dozen; and they
wanted to share with an existing AHL or IHL franchise.

Enter the Dallas Lone Stars. Dallas agreed to supply the remaining
6 or 8 players to the Moncton franchise. Thus keeping the Hawks
in the New Brunswick city.

The deal is for one year and will be extended to three years if
the season ticket base increases to over 3000. The Hawks only sold
1400 for this year.
============================================================
SAINT JOHN FLAMES OFFICIAL
The Calgary Flames have officially signed a deal with the city of
Saint John, NB. The Saint John Blue Flames will play in the 6200
Exhibition Center. The Flames still have to apply for an expansion
frnachise from the AHL but are expected to have no trouble.
=========================================================
CAPS FOLLOW JACKS TO MAINE
Despite rumors to the contrary, the Capitals will follow the Baltimore
Skipjacks to Maine. The Caps' current farm team, the Baltimore Skipjacks,
announced that they would move to Maine and become the Portland Pirates.
There was much doubt as to if the Caps would follow but they announced
a limited deal with Portland. They would supply a dozen or so players
including 2 goalies. They become the third team to announce a limited
farm team along with Moncton and the Capital District Islanders.
======================================================
AHL GAME OF THE WEEK
In early January, the AHL started a game of the week. The game, produced
by, I believe, Pyman Productions, was televised across the Canadian
Maritimes and northeastern US. The first few weeks saw two games of
the week, one in Canada and another in the US but since then, there
has been only one. Sunday afternoon and night games were covered and
shown on Sportschannel NY and NE in the US and, I believe, Atlantic
Sports Network in Canada (but I'm not sure about that). I am not
sure if playoff games will be covered.
=====================================================
UTICA GONE? SYRACUSE ADDED?
There were heavy rumors that the Utica Devils will not be around next
season. There were rumors that they might be headed to a midwestern
city and that the city of Syracuse is trying to lure them.
=====================================================
WHAT THE AHL MIGHT LOOK LIKE NEXT YEAR

ONE OPTION				ANOTHER OPTION

Northern Division			Southern Division
ADIRONDACK RED WINGS			ADIRONDACK
SPRINGFIELD INDIANS			SPRINGFIELD
PROVIDENCE BRUINS			PROVIDENCE
CD ISLANDERS				CDI
PORTLAND PIRATES			HERSHEY
					BINGHAMTON
Southern Division			ROCHESTER
HERSHEY BEARS				HAMILTON
BINGHAMTON RANGERS			UTICA
ROCHESTER AMERICANS
HAMILTON CANUCKS			Atlantic Division
UTICA (?) DEVILS			PORTLAND
					ST JOHN'S
Atlantic Division			SAINT JOHN
ST JOHN'S MAPLE LEAFS			MONCTON
MONCTON HAWKS				HALIFAX
HALIFAX CITADELS			FREDERICTON
CAPE BRETON OILERS			CAPE BRETON
FREDERICTON CANADIENS			CHARLOTTETOWN
SAINT JOHN BLUE FLAMES
CHARLOTTETOWN SENATORS (move is unofficial as yet)


I've got a 386 motherboard for sale:

    i386-25DX processor w/2Mb RAM
    AMI BIOS w/setup
    Math Coprocessor socket
    8 expansion slots
    Full sized motherboard--fits any full-sized case
    All manuals included

    Make me an offer!

Reason for sale: I've got a new HP workstation to play with now :)

Also: other peripherals (VGA card/moditor, TEAC Disk Drives, printer, etc)
      available.

E-mail for more info.


A few days back someone posted info on a gopher site where you could
search for medical graphics, etc.  Could someone please repost or mail me
a copy?  I'd greatly appreciate it.  Thanks!

Mark


I have two questions (well probably more...) about how Expose & Configure
events are handled.

I have an appl. which uses 1 window to draw in.  Since I give the user the
capability of scaling and zooming as well as allowing the window to be
resized, I made a translation table for the Expose & Configure events.
The Expose event calls my redraw method while the Configure event
calls my rescale method.  The rescale method invokes a "fake" Expose
event (actually just calls the redraw w/ an appropriate Expose struct)
to draw the data.

Quest 1.
When the appl. is compiled/linked w/ R4 (running in either R4 or R5 env.)
I get multiple (>4) redraws when the window gets uncovered or the size
is changed.  I assume I'm getting cascading events.  Is that right?
Any suggestions as to how to handle/trap events in a better way?

Quest 2.
When the appl. is compiled/linked w/ R5 I get no Expose events
whatsoever.  Do events and/or translation tables act differently in R5?

Thanks in advance

Steve
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==========================================================================================


 jamesdon@infoserv.com (James A. Donald) writes...

Hello?  What the Sloan decision means is that the tax protestors
were wrong.

Demonstrate, please!  The rules of procedure make this very
unlikely.

FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY

Which makes it legally unsound.  If I were representing Mr. Teel,
I'd try a procedural approach if I could find one, or recommend
he plea-bargain.  He's setting himself up to be in hot water.

						Daniel Reitman

HOW NOT TO WRITE A DEED

One case involved the construction of a conveyance to grantees "jointly, as
tenants in common, with equal rights and interest in said land, and to the
survivor thereof, in fee simple. . . . To Have and to Hold the same unto the
said parties hereto, equally, jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights
and interest for the period or term of their lives, and to the survivor thereof
at the death of the other."


well, the subject says just about all I intended to ask:

Is there no way to insert a 256 color into WfW 2.0 ?

When I try it, the picture turns into a 16 color pic.


                steps deleted
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{>
{> It's an interesting idea, but the worst-case data patterns developed to
{> test magnetic media are totally different than the patterns used to detect
{> common faults in memory chips.
{>
I was having major memory problems a few monthes ago.
getting parity error - system halted error message in windows.
I ran QA/PLUS, Check It, Diagnose, as well as several shareware
memory checkers. I had a total of 8 meg SIMM in my system.
these store bought/ shareware memory diagnostics either ran fine
without errors or found an error at some address that I couldn't
place on a memory chip. Out of exahperation I came up with
the (now deleted) steps to find bad memory chips. I found 2
(moral : never buy memory stamped "not for sensitive or critical
applications" on the back.
        anyway I did filter out all the bad memory chips using
combinations of 4 of the 8 meg chips and creating a RAM drive to
test on. Although it dodn't alleviate my parity error problems
in windows. I did manage to find bad memory chips in this manner
It has NEVER failed to find a bad chip for me. and the commercial/
shareware have always faild me either not finding the error or
pointing to an addreww which I have no idea on what chip it is.

p.s. man my typing stinks today and I don't feel like futzing around with
this line editor.

                                                       -David

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Does anyone out there know of any products using Motorola's Neuron(r) chips MC143150 or MC143120. If so, what are they and are they utilizing Standard Network Variable Types (SNVT)?
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Greetings!

        Situation:  I have a phone jack mounted on a wall.  I don't
                    know the number of the line.  And I don't want
                    to call up the operator to place a trace on it.


Now available: xvertext 4.0
--------------

Summary
-------
xvertext provides you with four functions to draw strings at any angle in
an X window (previous versions were limited to vertical text). Rotation
is still achieved using XImages, but the notion of rotating a whole font
first has been dropped.

What's new?
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I've added a cache which keeps a copy of previously rotated strings - thus
speeding up redraws.

Where can I get it?
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comp.sources.x (soon...)
export.lcs.mit.edu : contrib/xvertext.4.0.shar.Z  (now)


: Has anyone ever heard of a food product called "Space Food Sticks?"

I remember those awful things.  They were dry and crumbly, and I
recall asking my third-grade teacher, Miss G'Francisco, how they
kept the crumbs from floating around in zero-G.  She had no clue.
I have not seen anything like them in today's space program.

Some Apollo technology is best forgotten.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368


Hi,

	I have a few question about graphics programming in VGA/SVGA :

1. How VESA standard works?  Any documentation for VESA standard?

2. At a higher resolution than 320x200x256 or 640x480x16 VGA mode,
   where the video memory A0000-AFFFF is no longer sufficient to hold
   all info, what is the trick to do fast image manipulation?  I
   heard about memory mapping or video memory bank switching but know
   nothing on how it is implemented.   Any advice, anyone?

3. My interest is in 640x480x256 mode.  Should this mode be called
   SVGA mode?  What is the technique for fast image scrolling for the
   above mode?  How to deal with different SVGA cards?

  Your guidance to books or any other sources to the above questions
would be greatly appreciated.  Please send me mail.

  Thanks in advance!

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*                         Tiang   T.    Foo                            *
*		      tiang@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu 		       *
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Of course you are a bunch of arrogant lawyers who know whats best for the
rest of us. You are doing such a wonderful job with our judicial system,
getting all the criminals off, I bow to your superior intellect. Not to
mention the fees you collect from us poor slobs who get tickets from
speeding State Police officers, so you can soak is when we go to court.
I just love lawyer jokes! Don't you?


*thud*

(see .sig)


This thread seems to be arguing the validity of a religious viewpoint
according to some utilitarian principle, i.e. atheism/religion is
wrong because it causes death.  The underlying `moral' is that death
is `wrong'.  This is a rather arbitrary measure of validity.

Get some epistemology.


does anybody have any info on this monitor or the manufacturers?

all help through e-mail please.


ONLY IF this chip catches on. Which means alternatives have to be
developed. Which will only happen if Clipper is discredited.


How much support do you need?  I don't think there's anything
that prohibits you from implementing such a widget, though you
will have to write your own versions of the functions that draw
the 3D shadow and traversal highlighting.


I didn't see any smilies in this message so.......

                W     T    L    PTs
   Team A      50    30    4    104
   Team B      52    32    0    104

There you go.  Two teams that tie in points without identical records.


For sale:

NEC TurboGrafx-16 video game system.  Package includes:

* Base unit:  with power supply, TV hookups, controller, and the games
             "Keith Courage in Alpha Zones" and "Ordyne".
* One extra controller
* TurboTap: let's you hook up as many as 5 controllers to the TG16.
* All original packaging, manuals, etc. for the above items.
* The games TV Sports Football, Alien Crush, Splatterhouse, and
  Takin' it to the Hoop.

Current market price for the above system is approximately $130.
Asking price is $75.  System was purchased in January of this year, and
has seen little use since then.  If interested, contact me via one of
the methods in my signature file!


Uh, right.  You also forgot that you can't get an RBI (barring a HR) with
nobody on base.  What fraction of all runs come on solo HR?

Most runs are scored because there happened to be players on base when the
batter did something good.  I use the phrase "happened to be" advisedly.
Lots of people have tried to figure out who the players are who have the
most ability to "turn it up a notch" in clutch/RBI/whatever situations, and
what they've found is that there is no evidence that *anyone* has such an
ability to any measurable extent.  There are no clutch hitters.  People who
tend to do things that *would* cause an RBI if there were somebody on base
end up getting RBIs proportional to how many of their teammates obliged by
being in position.

I agree.