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Celebrities who try to sound more intelligent than they actually are

I listened to Jaime King on Illeana Douglas's movie podcast last week, and it was honestly difficult to listen to at times. You could tell she was straining her vocabulary to try and sound as intellectual and well-read as possible, but it was clear that she's not. Which other famous people do this? There has to be a lot of them.

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Madonna owns this thread.

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Mike Tyson

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When Jennifer Garner tried to correct Conan on the proper usage of sneaked versus snuck. He then pulled out a dictionary and corrected her. I loved that moment of embarrassment on her face!

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R4 You could have posted the link! I hadn't seen it before! 😆

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R5 Talk about instant karma! That’s what she gets for trying to put him down.

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Lady Gaga.

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Ashley Judd is notoriously pretentious.

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After the first couple of Rocky movies, Stallone tried to reinvent himself as a writer and painter (remember when he was a painter?).

Some People-type rag ran a photo of his ground beef face trying to look pensive as he consulted an oversized Oxford dictionary. It was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 1003/27/2020

Whenever you meet a celebrity think of them as once been a skanky boy like you were, or a crybaby girl like you were. If you like you can think of them as firmer struggling actors unable to meet the rent.

by Anonymousreply 1103/27/2020

I’ve always been a fan of the male firm.

by Anonymousreply 1203/27/2020

Whoopi Goldberg. She has a strong, emotional speaking style that makes you want to trust her. But then...

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Never correct a Harvard Man on his own show.

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Dotard tRump

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Charlie Rose

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All of them

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Neil deGrasse Tyson

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Rupaul has read every book by Oprah.

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All of them.

by Anonymousreply 2103/27/2020

R21, are you also R17?

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Joaquin Phoenix. If that unintelligible Oscar speech didn't prove his limited intellectual capacity, nothing will. And Renee Zellwegger wasn't far behind with her incoherent diatribe.

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Joy Reid

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Michelle Williams.

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Brad Pitt.

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Courtney Love.

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Russell Brand

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Madonna, Trump, Joy Reid, Ezra Klein, Ta-Nehisi Coates. Is Renée Zellweger trying to sound intelligent, or just revealing she is very high on drugs? Dax Shepard - though I STILL want to lap his hole and Hoover his splooge.

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I second Joy Reid. Add most of MSNBC. Jennifer Lopez. Meghan and Harry. S

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Gwyneth Paltrow and Sting. Can’t listen to either.

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Bill Cosby

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Rose McGowan

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Sylvester Stallone = dumber than a box of rocks.

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Brad Pitt = dumb as an ashtray. Michelle Williams = dumb as an ashtray Oprah = dumb as an ashtray Julia Roberts = dumb as an ashtray Brie Larson = dumb as an ashtray Armie Hammer = Very low IQ Jennifer Lawrence = zero IQ

by Anonymousreply 3705/04/2020

Ben Affleck. Although he stepped away from the intellectual posing as he became more of a drunk. I saw an interview with him years ago and had to turn it off because it was too cringeworthy. I think he even had political aspirations at one point.

Didn’t Sylvester Stallone write Rocky when he was a nobody? He can’t be stupid.

The Garner clip is worse than I expected. Snuck isn’t a word? Good grief! “Wait, is snuck a word?” I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? That’s book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?

by Anonymousreply 3805/04/2020

R37 Yeah, no. I get you don't like these people, but they are not as dumb as you would like them to be

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Brad Pitt.

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Darren Criss

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Tammy Crooze

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Mark Ruffalo

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Will Smith.

by Anonymousreply 4405/04/2020

All the actors. They try to convince everyone, including themselves, that they are more than, just some how attractive people, who are good at pretending they are someone else.

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[quote]Charlie Rose

He's so dumb he's incapable of hiding it.

by Anonymousreply 4605/04/2020

Brad Pitt the architectural aesthete always makes me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 4705/04/2020

Robert De Niro. Acting is the only viable career path for him. He's that dumb.

by Anonymousreply 4805/04/2020

Oh, Alicia, was it all some marketing scheme to live up to the title?

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DeNiro may not be the most articulate but he's made a kiling in real estate investments. Maybe it's luck but he owns at least one entire block in Tribeca. Christie Brinkley is truly dumb as a box of rocks and also did well investing in real estate. She is truly an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 5005/04/2020

I really don't think Meryl Streep is that intelligent to be honest.

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Britney Spears

by Anonymousreply 5205/04/2020

[quote] Yeah, no.

Speaking of, um . . .

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Mika from Morning Joe. She's more suited to a celebrity interview show than a news show. She seems to be riding on her father's reputation.

by Anonymousreply 5405/04/2020

Some of the people mentioned in this thread are uneducated not dumb. There is a difference.

by Anonymousreply 5505/04/2020

Where does that put George W. Bush, R55?

by Anonymousreply 5605/04/2020

Not formally educated, you mean.

by Anonymousreply 5705/04/2020

The late Roger Ailes was spot on when he said Biden was a dumber than an ashtray. I don't like Trump but Biden shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.

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Yes, though her marital woes have knocked this fraucunt down a peg or two. Back in the day, both she and Ben Affleck were preachy, better-than-you fucks. Glad to see both have been mightily humbled.

by Anonymousreply 5905/04/2020

Jessica Chastain. Thread Closed.

by Anonymousreply 6005/04/2020

Yes R57, that's what I meant.

R56. GWB and Trump are very similar to me: two rich kids whose pedigree allowed them to attend the best schools and have access to power but both have a total and complete lack of intellectual curiosity. Because they have so-called charisma and savviness, they've been able to succeed, but neither one had any business being president.

by Anonymousreply 6105/04/2020

Conan is intimidatingly smart, imo. Perhaps we should give Garner points for thinking she had the brains to take him on even if it was just over the usage of one word.

I am going to go against this thread and name a celebrity who I think is genuinely smart, Reese Witherspoon.

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My third grade teacher informed us snuck wasn't a word, the same way we were taught that ain't wasn't a word. This was way back in the 60s, and that was a commonplace pronouncement. Now a teacher might distinguish between formal usage and informal rather than declare ain't wasn't a word at all. And, FWIW, I'm pretty sure I watched David Letterman tell Terri Garr the same thing. It might have been a dispute about another word she used, but it was something informal and Letterman told her that that (whatever it was) wasn't a word.

by Anonymousreply 6305/04/2020

Not exactly an answer to the question, but I want to shoehorn this in somewhere. I was so impressed with Bill Gates during his town hall with Sanjay Gupta the other night, discussing the pandemic. Obviously he’s a very intelligent man, we all know this. But he’s a very effective communicator, as well. He spoke clearly and simply, and it felt like the information went right into my brain. He didn’t pause, digress or add anything extraneous to his sentences. There was no attitude of condescension, of letting you know he’s the smartest guy in the room.

There’s a sort of graciousness that some people have, even when it’s an absolute given that they’re richer/better-looking/smarter, they don’t bludgeon you with it. I really appreciate that.

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Chris Evans

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Matt Damon, George Clooney, Sean Penn & Susan Sarandon. People only pay Sarandon any attention because she has big knockers.

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Will I Am owns this thread

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No mention of James Franco yet?

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Gwyneth Paltrow. Remember when she said she had to educate Brad Pitt?

If you are ever unfortunate enough to read one of her interviews, you’ll see it’s sprinkled with “likes:” “And I was, like....” She also refers to things she approves of as “punk rock,” an expression the use of which should be punishable by firing squad.

by Anonymousreply 6905/04/2020

R37: I always found Jennifer Lawrence to be obnoxiously immature and there's a reason for that. Turns out she dropped out of [bold]middle school[/bold] at 14! Before the truth was discovered, her PR machinery claimed she graduated high school two years early with a 3.9 GPA, which allowed her to pursue acting with her parents' permission.

Don't these famehos realize that when you become a celebrity, people will scrutinize your history?

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Timothee Chalamet

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Denzel Washington. He almost didn't graduate college. His GPA was 1. something.

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Emma Stone

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Brie Larson

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It would be helpful if posters could back up their opinions with examples. Nothing extravagant, just a simple example or link. Otherwise, this is just another thread allowing us to spout names of celebrities we don't like.

by Anonymousreply 7505/04/2020

I agree with someone upthread on Mark Ruffalo. He's pretentious as fuck and he pisses me off more than Susan Sarandon.

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Here you go, R75!

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by Anonymousreply 7705/04/2020

Fame seems to cause a Dunning-Kruger effect. It is possible many celebrities believe that because they are high performers in their given field, they are also highly intelligent.

Or it could be they were like that even before fame.

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Geena Davis. She does have a high IQ. And never lets us forget it.

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Johnny Depp. I don't believe I really need to make a link, or cite a specific example, as someone had suggested upthread. Everything sound stilted, and pontificus. I like that he speaks French, but do not care much for him speaking English. The self-styled accent is pretentious as well.

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Lea Michele

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Snoop Dogg

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Elizabeth Banks

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Isn’t it easier to highlight celebrities who actually sound intelligent when they speak? It’s a surprise when a celebrity does sound intelligent when they’re talking about non-industry or non-Hollywood issues. Most celebrities are street smart at best instead being intellectual or having high intelligence.

There are some exceptions who are hard to categorize, like Keanu Reeves. He comes off as introspective but not highly intelligent, he’ll sometimes surprise us with Deep Thoughts. Therein lies his brilliance.

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I’d LOVE to find the interview Gwyneth Paltrow gave in the It was in about 2002, and I’d have to go through their unsearchable archive.

The angle was her favorite things, and I still remember some of her snootiest answers. Favorite candy: I don’t eat candy. favorite florist: she wouldn’t say, because she didn’t want everyone using him. Favorite dry cleaner: “I don’t know where she takes the dry-cleaning” Favorite bakery: something vegan banana muffins.

I‘d suspect she had it scrubbed because she came off as such a snobby twat. But it’s relatively obscure, and I found it a couple of years ago.

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Spike Lee

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Dr. Phil & Dr.Oz

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Eva Longoria

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Depp and Penn, listed above, are prime examples.

by Anonymousreply 8905/04/2020

R71 except Timothée was admitted to Columbia University at age 17 and is known to have a Mensa level IQ

by Anonymousreply 9005/04/2020

Didn't a celeb get caught lying about being Mensa members years ago? I think it was a woman.

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Gov,. Andrew Cuomo

(not quite a celebrity, but he sure loves to hear himself talk.)

by Anonymousreply 9205/04/2020

[quote]Didn't a celeb get caught lying about being Mensa members years ago? I think it was a woman.


by Anonymousreply 9305/04/2020

R58 Roger Ailes said a lot of things as he was lopping up tuna salad from Au Bon Pain off his desk and tie. Any observation from Jabba isn't worth noting.

by Anonymousreply 9405/04/2020

R91 his admission to Columbia University at 17 is something he can’t have faked. Easily verified.

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Reese Witherspoon

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R85, I doubt the muffins were vegan. I don’t why she gets that label - her cookbooks (yes, I know she doesn’t write them) are full of chicken recipes, etc.

The rest of her answers, like the florist...SMH. Twat.

by Anonymousreply 9705/04/2020

Um, all of them.

by Anonymousreply 9805/04/2020

Leonardo DiCaprio. I actually think he's quite intelligent despite being a highschool dropout, at least by celebrity standards. He always struck me as someone who has common sense, and probably high emotional intelligence. But his 'sophisticated, thoughtful humanitarian' persona is clearly put on, and it's annoying af. At some point (10 - 15 years ago maybe?), his whole speaking style changed, even his gestures. I hate that 'new' persona ... can barely listen to him anymore.

by Anonymousreply 9905/04/2020

The Garner and Conan clip reminds me of when Kurt Loder corrected Jewel on the use of "casualty" in her poem.

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r100 I remember this.. so cringe-y. Had Madonna used "casualty" in that way, Kurt would have told her how innovative she was.

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Al Pacino, maybe. I eagerly tuned in to watch an interview in the last year, maybe it was Actors Studio. I was hoping for brilliant insights, but he talked about very basic happenings and basic ideas. And, he spoke a out these basic pronouncements slowly and emphatically though, as if they were brilliant insights. I became bored and changed the channel. To be fair, he has never seemed to present himself as an intellectual, though.

by Anonymousreply 10205/04/2020

Many Hollywood actors have Ive League education, I get some of you are prissy jealous queens, but people can be smart and beautiful too. Actually Hollywood is way more elitist than people realize.

Nolan Gould from Modern Family is literally a Mensa member. He does give off an aspie vibe.

Keanu comes across as someone who was sexually abused as a teen.

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r103 you can have an Ivy League education and still overestimate your intelligence.

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Somewhat must have mentioned Oprah Winfrey by now.

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Oprah once mispronounced "scourge"!

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I'm sure Timothée is smart, but it's a bit annoying when his fans make him out to be a genius. The Mensa IQ thing is merely someone's opinion passed around enough times that other people believe it to be true. And he was already an established actor when he applied to Columbia. A person with a career at 17 is inherently a strong candidate. That had to have helped him gain admittance there, quite apart from his grades or test scores. The Statistics video doesn't exactly scream "serious student" and he said he got a D plus in that class. It's very unusual to get into an Ivy with any grades that low.

by Anonymousreply 10705/04/2020

Definitely not Trump. He's very blunt.

by Anonymousreply 10805/04/2020

R37 Most of the people on your list, while they are dumb, they don't try to sound smart.

by Anonymousreply 10905/04/2020

R37's post itself is pretty dumb.

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Dakota Fanning

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Jlaw owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 11205/04/2020

R112 no she doesn't.

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Ashley Judd.

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R107 Armie Hammer said he got a D. My guess is Armie was projecting his own failures, which are apparent, and was trying to spice up the story. He often does that. Simple minds tend to. I recall Timothée just smiling and probably thinking to himself what a simpleton he had to work with.

As for his IQ, who cares if it’s 120, 150, whatever. He comes from a line of Harvard and Yale graduates. His family obviously has he intelligence gene. Let’s not be so jealous. So what he’s pretty and clever. It happens. It’s unfair but it happens.

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Justin Timberlake-point proven if you watch Hot Ones.

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R113 = JLaw, scrolling DL in the next room because her new husband has banned her from “surprising” his clients on Zoom meetings

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[Quote] JLaw, scrolling DL in the next room because her new husband has banned her from “surprising” his clients on Zoom meetings

Oh great, a JLaw troll 🙄

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R118 God she's such trash.

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Madonna throwing around the word “reductive” then telling the journalist to look it up. 1) madonna had clearly Just looked it up. 2) it’s not even the right word. Derivative maybe. An homage.

by Anonymousreply 12205/04/2020

People who are constantly nervous can easily sound dumber than they actually are because their thoughts are such a mess. Chalamet for example is definitely smart but due to anxiety he has problems expressing himself properly. This in turn makes him often confuse vocabulary because in high stress situations he focuses on repeating someone else's words instead of forming his own.

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pete bootyjuice

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Gwyneth Paltrow

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Imagine if proving Timothee Chalamet's intelligence were the hill you chose to die on.

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Joaquin Phoenix

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King Cuomo II is not that bright and his voice is nails on a chalkboard but he sure loves to see and hear himself talk.

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R128: The worst is when he brings his fucking daughters to his press briefings.

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I've got 2 ivy degrees but I'm not brilliant. All my life I've made an effort to express myself in workaday language because I hate jargon and I hated what jargon and doublespeak did to many academic fields. That is to say I think highly abstract language can be a comedy (among the cognoscenti) but so many people, of average intellect, over-invest in it. In my career there were few experiences more dismal than sitting through management or academic meetings drowning in the lexis de jour. French and German learned tradition foisted this on everyone (Trump tried and failed with "to foist") but too many Americans don't know it's a game. Dire results include almost 2 generations of elite college graduates soused in SJW speak and who don't know shit from Shinola.

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James Franco posed as an intellectual for a minute and lapped up the praise from fraus and fangurls "oh, he's so smart" for his bullshit. LOL.

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Joe Rogan.

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And Madonna? She gets a pass on lexis. The passages through Mid Atlantic and British accents were, however, risible.

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Claire Danes.

I rolled my eyes so often while listening to her interview on Fresh Air.

She uses "fancy" words -- incorrectly. She thinks "fungible" is a synonym for flexible.

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Reese Witherspoon.

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Yes, Oprah and Whoops, Madge and Jay Z, that fashion drugtard closet-case psycho married to that Kardashian, every GOP politician in office today (they're not even true Republicans, since 85% are Tea Party/White-Power/Destroy-the-US antebellum types), the insufferable Gary Oldman and the equally insufferable Edward Norton! Shia, too, as well as the repulsive Joaquin Phoenix. Miss Jolie has tried to seem smart when all she, and a lot of the others here, are merely cunning.

And, of course, Miss Markle, who has the intelligence of a sugar beet.

I never can tell if Jennifer Lug HugeTits pretends to intelligence because she seems not to be smart enough to maintain a consistent pose at it.

Courtney Love is pretentious and was dumb even before her first dose.

And Andie MacDowell, who is in a class by herself because she tries to sound more intelligent than she is by aiming at an IQ of 100, when in reality she is a pleasant person whose quotient is about 80.

by Anonymousreply 13705/05/2020

Joan Crawford's Mid Atlantic was high camp. Is that + or -, I dunno. Bette could do any voice and accent, being well born. I disliked Katharine Hepburn because she never modulated Mainline / Bryn Mawr. It was pretty fucking tiresome and pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 13805/05/2020

Kanye owns this thread

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That braindead meathead Joe Rogan

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R5 Oh God, that was cringey and delicious. What a pretentious thinks-she-knows-it-all . Even in that revealing dress and clearly trying her hardest to be sexy, she just IS NOT SEXY. She is completely sexless.

by Anonymousreply 14105/05/2020

Joe and Mika are abie-normals.

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Julia Roberts.

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You think a high school valedictorian, [italic]magna cum laude[/italic] Harvard graduate, and a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford belongs here, R124?

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Meghan Markle

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Though the following are all dead, (Sorry, I'm old!) they most certainly deserve a mention. I'm not saying any of them are stupid, nor clever, yet their manner of speaking caused many to consider them great intelligences of their time. All of them frequently used a halting, or deliberate manner to their speech: long drawn out pauses, and I believe somewhat studied and false reflections on many things they previously said.

William F. Buckley Jr.

Gore Vidal

Robert Evans

by Anonymousreply 14605/05/2020

The Trumptard trolls who constantly trash Joe and Mika need to get a life.

by Anonymousreply 14705/05/2020

All Rhodes scholars are Rhodes scholars at Oxford, r144.

by Anonymousreply 14805/05/2020

Aaron Rodgers likes to try to sound deep but he just ends up sounding like a boring asshole.

by Anonymousreply 14905/05/2020

Kate Hudson. Homer Simpson in drag.

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Judy Davis

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Sean Lennon

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R148: I know that, Sherlock. Oxford was included for R124 to emphasize how baseless his/her comment was, because Buttigieg graduated with honors from [bold]two[/bold] prestigious universities.

by Anonymousreply 15305/05/2020

Elizabeth Holmes and a sociopathic assimilater to boot.

by Anonymousreply 15405/05/2020

You know who tries to sound more intelligent than they are? CELEBRITIES. You know who else tries to sound more intelligent than they are? EVERYBODY.

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America Ferrera

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Brie Larson.

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Jesse Eisenberg

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Armie Hammer. DUMB AS A ROCK.

by Anonymousreply 15905/06/2020

Krystal Ball owns this thread.

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Darren Criss

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ALTERNATE THEORY: Sometimes these people are incredibly intelligent but lack traditional formal education. So they search for bigger words to be more specific but they've never had the actual meanings confirmed or been corrected.

I watched an old interview with courtney love and she misused a few words and instead of thinking "what a moron" i realized i was watching a highly intelligent lady who had two intelligent parents but never finished high school.

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Andy Cohen

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Sadly, even some educators are questionable.

This elderly, smug, Blythe Danner lookalike Frau sent this video of herself jumping around to R.E.M. to students requesting a partially tuition refund due to COVID-19.

She is the DEAN of NYU Tisch.

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Don Lemon with his pregnant pauses before everything.

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Diana Ross

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He is not the only one that does that R165. Rachel Maddow has a way of halting that drives me crazy. I know it is used for dramatic effect, but it loses that when it is used over and over

by Anonymousreply 16705/07/2020

If, according to R37, someone like Oprah Winfrey -- who had a very successful, decades-spanning career in media and interviewed everyone from Elie Wiesel to Michelle Obama to the Dalai Lama -- is "dumb as an ashtray," what words do you use for people who actually do fit that desciption? If only all dumber-than-dirt people could be so high-functioning. I'm no fan of Winrey but at least I acknowledge her accomplishments .

by Anonymousreply 16805/09/2020

R168, that's true. It's better not to generalize the particular form of the case that Ms. Winfrey represents.

She is the type who thinks that because she had success in managing (or facilitating a professional team to develop and manage the brand) a career as a schmoozing, manipulative, "inspirational" and engaging television interviewer, she believed that her wealth somehow made her knowledgable about every subject in the world, and informed as an expert in every topic. She came to believe that she had a power and wisdom to lead "followers" into a better life.

In other words, she tried to sound more intelligent than she actually is, if intelligence includes prudence and self-awareness. And her attempts to convert social influence into pseudo-messianic messaging while raking in the dough also marks her as something more appalling than a mere overreacher.

Not that I think she has done as much harm as she might have. But she is ego-driven, not message- or truly mission-driven, and that shows something that appropriately runs against what most of us would call intelligence. It's called cunning.

by Anonymousreply 16905/09/2020

R169, you're overreaching because you dislike Oprah so much.

So yeah, she's not as brilliant as she thinks she is, and isn't an intellectual. That doesn't mean she isn't intelligent.

by Anonymousreply 17005/09/2020

Oprah Winfrey has her faults but she's obviously an intelligent woman.

by Anonymousreply 17105/09/2020

After reading many comments on DL for years this thread could apply to many posters here.

by Anonymousreply 17205/13/2020

Jenny McCarthy. Jesus Christ, she was never funny in the first place--men only laughed at her jokes because of her rack. And then, she tries to be an anti-vaxx expert with Joy Behar constantly telling her "oh, you're so cute!". Everything you do is dumb, Jenny. DUMB!

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Candace Cameron Bure

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Patti Smith

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Patricia Heaton. Yes, we get it, you are a Republican and you think abortion is the worst thing in the world. And it's impressive how you seem to milk that discussion for everything it's worth. Now go away.

by Anonymousreply 17605/14/2020

Years ago, Patricia Heaton got involved with campaigns/organizations that were against embryonic stem cell research and she bashed the late Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox in a couple of interviews which pissed off a lot of people with Parkinsons and spinal cord injuries. Heaton later apologized after appearing in some anti-stem cell research ad and it was clear the apology was just done to smooth things over with MJF. I don't think she ever gave some phony apology to Christopher and Dana Reeve's family.

by Anonymousreply 17705/14/2020

Okay now you all are just listing Republican cunts you hate.

by Anonymousreply 17805/14/2020

R177 MJF should have told her to fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 17905/14/2020

R178, are you new here? You can hate Patricia for being Republican AND because she thinks she's more intelligent than she really is. In fact, those two things may be interconnected.

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Shirley McLaine

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Darren Criss

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Leonardo DiCaprio

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Weavoncé oncé

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Jeremy Renner

by Anonymousreply 18505/18/2020

Courtney Love and Angelina Jolie are both highly intelligent. It comes with being a psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 18605/18/2020

Sarah Jessica Parker

by Anonymousreply 18705/24/2020

Jody Foster. She may have gone to a fancy school and all, but...

by Anonymousreply 18805/24/2020

It's Jodie!

by Anonymousreply 18905/25/2020

So basically, ALL of them?

by Anonymousreply 19005/25/2020

Demi Moore, sadly, because it's more lack of formal education than anything else.

I remember my mother watching an interview of hers, and exclaiming, "She's very intelligent." Mom was a math teacher and had a way picking out the smart ones, so there's that.

But, Moore's lack of education is staggering - just deciding to make that Scarlet Letter movie at all was inexplicable.

by Anonymousreply 19105/25/2020

R104, an Ivy League education doesn't mean what it used to.

They no longer admit only the best and brightest (although its arguable if they ever did what with money and legacy admissions). Now a days, Harvard and its ilk "curate" their incoming student body. It's like they are at a buffet, and they take a teaspoon of everything, rather than loading up on prime rib.

by Anonymousreply 19205/25/2020

Shia Labeouf pronouncing "epitome" owns this thread.

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by Anonymousreply 19305/25/2020

OP is just closed minded.

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by Anonymousreply 19405/25/2020

Most anyone who attempts to over-intellectualize a topic ends up looking foolish, no matter what their level of expertise is. Don't attempt to get above your raising and people will take you more seriously. There's nothing wrong with just saying "I have no knowledge or expertise in that". People who can properly simplify a difficult topic so more people can understand it are always taken more seriously.

Celebrities are all to often in performance mode even if the cameras aren't trained on them, as long as there's someone around they can try and impress. I believe it's in their genetic makeup.

by Anonymousreply 19505/25/2020

For R132

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Ladies and Gentleman

Put your hands together




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by Anonymousreply 19705/25/2020

I remember seeing CNN journalist Wolf Blitzer on an episode of celebrity Jeopardy. Does anyone remember that? I thought that he would win or at least score high but he couldn’t get any of the answers right and I say he tries to sound intelligent because he does sound intelligent when he’s reading the news but when he’s not in front of a news Teleprompter, he doesn’t really know shit.

by Anonymousreply 19805/25/2020

Most TV news people come off as morons when they're left to their own resources and don't have a script to read. Just listen to even the big guys when they're reporting on a major breaking story and haven't had time to have anything written for them. They can't even string 5 words together without uhing and ahing every other word. They sound like low grade morons.

by Anonymousreply 19905/25/2020

R198, didn't Wolf finish with like -$10,000? He was banished from final Jeopardy, which only happens to rare losers, retards, and sacks of shit.

by Anonymousreply 20005/25/2020

Go home, fat whores, I have the mother of all idiots to throw into the mix:

LeBron James

By defending China and saying his coach wasn’t educated when he spoke out against China and then having to apologize because he was too stupid to know about China’s human rights record. As well, he did not even know what an authoritarian government WAS because the NBA makes so much money from China and he wanted to protect his revenue stream.

He has a show called The Shop where he brings a bunch of celebrities together and they talk about life etc. It’s painfully, painfully obvious he knows nothing but the words “revenue stream, income stream, branding opportunities, and strategizing”. He talks like a fucking Tony Robbins seminar. It’s embarrassing. Most sports figures aren’t too bright but James is a different league of stupid person who thinks he’s smart. He’s a male version of Goop.

by Anonymousreply 20105/25/2020

Olivia Wilde. To be fair, she is genuinely intelligent, but she's also a little bit pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 20205/25/2020

R202 I agree with you.

by Anonymousreply 20305/25/2020

R10 The original Rocky is considered one of the greatest screenplays of all-time and is taught in film schools to this day, so I can see where he thought that he could've had a writing career.

by Anonymousreply 20405/25/2020

R164 Everything about this is baffling to me. What it a joke? Was it meant to be a comfort? What does it have to do with a tuition refund?

by Anonymousreply 20505/25/2020

Ivanka Trump owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 20605/25/2020

Chris Evans.

by Anonymousreply 20705/25/2020

Mel Gibson.

by Anonymousreply 20805/25/2020

Ricky Martin. In his interviews he tries to sound like he’s all New-Agey and spiritual but he never really makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 20905/26/2020

Lens Dunham. Years ago some publication was remembering some relevant anniversary pertaining to Sylvia Plath, so they solicited short essays from about a dozen folks to discuss Plath, her work, her impact, etc. 11 of them were literary critics, Plath scholars, or esteemed professors of the humanities. One of them was a pretentious cow, desperate to sound profound, but just ended up embarrassing herself instead. I wonder if the editor who decided to include her piece did it out of spite.

by Anonymousreply 21005/26/2020

Nicole Kidman

by Anonymousreply 21105/26/2020

Henry Cavill trying to correct someone and it bounced back and bitch slapped him.

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by Anonymousreply 21205/26/2020

R212 "all white people look the same to me" 😄 Thanks for posting.

by Anonymousreply 21305/26/2020

OPRAH is certainly of AVERAGE intelligence. Still she's EXTREMELY rich. She must have someone VERY clever investing her money all these years.

by Anonymousreply 21405/26/2020

R214 Its a shame she wouldn't get something done about her appalling feet.

by Anonymousreply 21505/26/2020

R215 is she worse than Ezra Miller??

by Anonymousreply 21605/26/2020

Oprah wears ladies size 10s...she said that she spent a lot of time forcing her feet into smaller shoes and it had a bad effect on her feet.

by Anonymousreply 21705/26/2020

Why are some posters here reluctant to admit that Oprah is smart? She can't be fabulously rich AND have a decent set of brains? The world would be quite a different place if all people of average intelligence (see R214's post) functioned in life like she did. And I'm speaking as someone who is quite indifferent to her

by Anonymousreply 21805/26/2020

R218, because it is much easier for some (*cough* R206 *cough*) to accept their lot in life, if they believe that successful people are successful only because of luck or dishonesty.

If they were forced to acknowledge that many successful people are successful because of an innate talent or skill or even the dint of hard work, then their own lives, which they have never learned to accept anyway, would be that much more horrible to them.

by Anonymousreply 21905/26/2020

Oprah is obviously quite intelligent, but because her mind and preferences and monumentally frau-ish and middlebrow, people with snobbish tendencies look down on her.

But they're the stupid ones, they don't realize that good taste and highbrow preferences are not actually an indicator of intelligence, they're just indicators of good taste! Intelligence doesn't necessarily equate with intellectual credentials or being cultured, never make that mistake when dealing with real people.

by Anonymousreply 22005/26/2020

You know who looked like a REAL dummy that guy from Knots Landing. Ted Shakelford.

by Anonymousreply 22105/26/2020

R188 WADR, Foster doesn't need to speak in elevated language, as she's naturally intelligent, and it's obvious to most. She probably just happens to be in possession of a much larger vocabulary than you're accustomed to seeing an actress use. Her French is impeccable for an American as well.

I DO happen to be a lover of lesbians, yet I'm confident I'm not guilty of bias here.

by Anonymousreply 22205/26/2020

No athlete should be allowed to say anything, unless it's sport related.

by Anonymousreply 22305/27/2020
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