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467ci Pontiac Engine On Stuska Dyno - Project Pure Poncho

Our Mule engine produces 491.8 hp and 551 lb-ft of torque on the dyno

The day finally arrived when our 467 ci of pure Pontiac would be bolted to the Stuska dyno at RaceKrafters. Its machining and assembly, along with the parts sourced from Summit Racing and Butler Performance, would be on trial—the jury being the Depac data acquisition system, and the verdict read as horsepower and torque.

Our test Mule is a nice mill but it isn't exotic. It's a standard bearer of what most readers would build for a street/strip Pontiac: 9.1:1 compression, ported 6X cylinder heads, along with a stroker crankshaft. The most exotic (for lack of a better word) part of the engine is the hydraulic roller camshaft, and even it is being used more regularly in hobbyist buildups.

The Mule's conservative DNA will be a starting point for our long-term objective of using this engine as a test bed. Thus, we set a realistic goal for power. Though it is not admitted, anyone who goes to a dyno with an unknown combination always has a number in mind. Anything below that and they will be disappointed. If it is higher, they are ecstatic. Our goal was just over 467 real horsepower, or one pony per cubic inch on pump gas.

The word real as a description of horsepower was chosen for a reason. One of the many motivations to work with Bob and Craig Wise was the accuracy of their dyno cell, along with their engine building and machining skills. Accurate and repeatable testing is the essence of this project as it moves forward. A dyno cell or operator that unintentionally introduces a number of variables into the testing would skew the data and, for the most part, make it worthless. If HPP is going to qualify and then quantify parts and modifications, we need an accurate test cell. RaceKrafters has one.

Since we covered the requirements and function of a dyno test and test cell in the primer that preceded this story, now we'll discuss the power that our Pontiac produced, along with the tuning decisions.

Before HPP arrived at RaceKrafters, the Mule had been already bolted to the dyno, test run, and partially broken in. You always want to run a fresh engine with a varying amount of load (not full load) to get all of the parts seated. The crankcase was filled with Brad Penn 30W break-in oil.

The Holley mechanical secondary 750-cfm carburetor (PN 80528-2) came with No. 73 jets all around and a 6.5-inch of Hg power valve. An MSD Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run distributor also had an out-of-the-box advance curve setting with two heavy silver springs along with the blue bushing. The mechanical advance was to be all in by 4,000 rpm and the total timing was set by Craig to be 34 degrees BTDC.

Our Mule started immediately and ran beautifully with excellent oil pressure and built coolant temperature evenly. Prior to HPP arriving, Craig made some partial pulls and with everything looking good, shut it down, and waited for us to show up the next morning.

When we arrived at the shop, it was exciting to see the Mule attached to the dyno brake and ready to rumble. With it fired and idling around 1,000 rpm (to build heat quicker) we anxiously awaited for the oil and water temperature to rise. Once the water hit 151 degrees F and the oil 128 degrees F, the time of reckoning had come. The fuel cell was already filled with 92-octane gasoline from a local station. The Pontiac was going to have to show us its mettle against the stout Stuska water brake.

With the Depac system set to make a run from 3,000 rpm up to 5,550, Craig crowded the throttle control until it was fully open and pressed a button telling the control servo to begin the run. The Poncho sounded like a NASCAR engine as it challenged the hydraulics of the water brake. It sung one sweet song and never missed a beat. The entire run from beginning to end took only 8.4 seconds. With the throttle fully closed, the 467 quickly obtained an idle status of 850 rpm without a quiver. It went from peak power to idle like a loyal soldier following the commands of his officer.

Within a second, the data was out on the PC screen and HPP is pleased to report that we exceeded our goal on the first pull with hardly any break-in and the out-of-the-box settings for the carburetor jets, air bleeds, and distributor timing.

Peak hp was 484 at 5,000 rpm; maximum torque was 546.5 lb-ft at 3,600 rpm. More importantly, from 3,400 to 5,500 rpm the average horsepower and torque were 430.36 and 528.02, respectively. There was over 500 lb-ft of torque at nearly every test point. This engine in even the heaviest Pontiac would pull like a jet on take-off!

Each run we made was backed up by at least one other to confirm the data.

During the inaugural pull, the BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption) and fuel flow looked great. The Pontiac was very efficient given its compression ratio, with an average BSFC of 0.398 for the entire pull with a low value of 0.37. Fuel flow averaged 173.06 pounds with a low of 131.3 at 3,400 rpm and a peak of 214.8 at 5,500 rpm. At that speed, the engine was 500 rpm beyond peak power, and thus the fuel consumption and BSFC all went high. The BSFC jumped to 0.44 and the fuel rate to nearly 215 pounds. This is normal for an engine when it's beyond its efficiency range, since it is working hard but cannot pump any more air. Think of it as a runner gasping for breath.

With the fuel readings looking so good, we went to look for extra power in the ignition timing. Craig ran a loop that varied from the starting point of 34 degrees and then went lower. If the engine power would have dropped off, he would have then went above 34 degrees. As it was, the Pontiac liked 32 degrees of timing best. Even though it only picked up a few horsepower, on the average, the less timing you can run the better it always is because it will be less prone to detonation.

Though we played with the jets and air bleeds on subsequent pulls, lack of improvement brought us back to the factory Holley settings. Bringing in the timing quicker using lighter springs had little effect on power as well (but they didn't hurt, so we left them in). If you order the carburetor and distributor correctly, the tune should be pretty close right out of the box.

Best Pull Details
#73 jets (square), 32 degrees of total advance, two light silver springs and blue bushing, 92-octane, 1-inch-open carb spacer

3,100 528.0 311.7 0.40 126.2
3,200 533.4 325.0 0.41 133.6
3,300 543.0 341.2 0.40 138.7
3,400 547.0 354.1 0.40 142.1
3,500 551.0 367.2 0.39 142.7
3,600 550.8 377.6 0.38 144.6
3,700 546.5 385.0 0.40 153.1
3,800 546.2 395.2 0.40 160.3
3,900 546.2 405.6 0.40 163.6
4,000 546.0 415.9 0.38 159.2
4,100 545.2 425.6 0.37 158.5
4,200 546.8 437.3 0.37 161.3
4,300 546.4 447.3 0.38 170.1
4,400 537.6 450.4 0.39 176.6
4,500 538.0 460.9 0.39 180.2
4,600 537.0 470.4 0.39 184.3
4,700 531.0 475.2 0.39 188.1
4,800 527.9 482.5 0.40 194.4
4,900 520.3 485.4 0.41 201.1
5,000 514.6 489.9 0.41 197.3
5,100 503.9 489.9 0.40 197.0
5,200 496.7 491.8 0.41 203.0
5,300 486.2 490.6 0.42 207.0
AVG 533.73 435.16 0.394 172.53

The next and final step for the day was to install a one-inch open spacer and retest. This increased the power to a peak of 491.8 and the torque to 551 lb-ft. The average numbers went up to 533.73 for torque and 435.16 for power. Interestingly, the jetting and timing wanted to be exactly the same, but the average BSFC came down slightly to 0.384 and the total fuel dropped to 172.53 pounds. Our Pontiac was making more power and using less fuel, since it accomplished the task more efficiently. That's what dyno testing and tuning are all about.

In all we made almost 70 dyno pulls since the engine went on the dyno stand for break-in. With an impressive baseline established, let the testing begin!

Three Pulls: Horsepower Only

Three Pulls: Torque Only


This was our initial pull of the Mule. Peak horsepower was 484 at 5,000 rpm and torque was 546.5 lb-ft at 3,600 rpm. The average for torque and horsepower were 528.02 and 430.36, respectively. The engine had 92 octane fuel, 34 degrees of total timing, and #73 jets.


Here we tried to make things better but the Mule did not like it. We kept the jets the same but since the engine responded to 32 degrees of timing instead of 34 we tried 30. It lost about 4 hp and a like amount of torque at peak. The average only fell to 527.99 lb-ft of torque and 429.93 hp.


This was our best pull of the day and it was with the 1-inch spacer and 32 degrees of timing along with the No. 73 jets. With 551 ft-lb and 491.8 hp, it was about 8 hp better on power than the baseline, and 4.5 lb-ft better on torque—a nice gain for a carb spacer.

HPP Engine Buildup Worksheet
Engine displacement: 467 ci
Bore/stroke: 4.185 / 4.250-in
Bore/stroke ratio: 0.98:1
Rod/stroke ratio: 1.6:1

Bottom End
Block: Stock '75 455
Preparation: Cooked, magged, line-bored, line-honed, decks squared with BHJ, bored and honed with torque plates
Deck height: 10.205-in
Crank: Butler/Eagle forged
Preparation: Balanced, polished
Rods: Eagle forged H-beam, 6.800-in
Preparation: Pin end honed to proper size, balanced, big end checked for proper size
Bearings: Clevite, plain shell, tri-metal
Preparation: Clean, check for proper clearance in rods
Pistons: Butler/Ross forged flat-top with valve reliefs
Preparation: Pin fit, check size, clean
Piston-to-deck height: 0.010 below
Piston pins: Ross, 0.990 floating, 0.155-in wall
Method used to retain piston pins in pistons: Spiro Locks
Rings: Total Seal, moly top, ductile second, three-piece oil; 116-, 116-, 316-in
Preparation: File-fit, clean
Rod bolts and head bolts: ARP
Balancing specs: Internal

Oiling System
Windage tray: Canton in pan
Crank scraper: Canton in pan
Oil pan: Canton Racing Road RaceSeries 5-quart, wet-sump
Oil pump: Melling M54DS high-volume

Casting number: 6X
Combustion chamber volume: 96.2ccs
Maximum flow at 28 inches of pressure:

Lift Intake Flow CFM Exhaust Flow CFM
0.100 66 55
0.200 133 106
0.300 191 149
0.400 224 170
0.500 236 182
0.600 250 186

Compression ratio: 9.1:1
Valves: Manley SS 2.11/1.77-in
Angles used in valve job: Intake—45, 60, 75, and 82-deg, 82 is hand-blended into 75-deg., exhaust—45-deg, 12mm radius
Retainers: Comp Cams, steel, 10-deg Beehive
Keepers: Comp Cams 10-degee, 1132-in
Valveguides: K-line bronze liner
Valve seals: Steel/Viton
Rocker studs: ARP 716-in
Rocker arms: Comp Cams aluminum full roller, 1.65:1
Pushrods: Manley 38x8.900-in

Brand: Comp Cams Xtreme Energy hydraulic roller
Duration at 0.050: 224/230-deg
Lift: 0.552/0.561-in
Centerline: 106-deg
Lobe separation angle: 110-deg
Installed position: 106-deg
Lifters: Comp Cams roller
Valvesprings: Comp Cams Beehive
Seat pressure: 137 lb/in
Open pressure: 290 lb/in
Timing chain: Comp Cams double-roller
Carb: Holley 4150 HP 750-cfm, mechanical secondaries
Intake manifold: Edelbrock Torker II

Distributor: MSD Pro-Billet Ready-to-Run
Wires: MSD 8.5mm

Headers: Hooker
Primary tube diameter: 1.75-in
Primary tube length: 32-in
Collector size: 3.00-in

Brand: Fel Pro