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  • Šveicarijos ginkluotosios pajėgos / Schweizer Armee

    Įdomi nuomonė apie Šveicarijos karinę galią ir jos landšafto tariamus privalumus šalies gynybai - kaip suprantu rašo šveicaras, pats tarnavęs Šveicarijos kariuomenėje ir žinantis apie ją ne iš laikraščių ir pasakojimų:

    Pierre Henry
    76.8k Views • Upvoted by Desmond Ng, I live in a country.

    Contrary to popular belief, I would say that the brave Swiss army leading a defensive war of attrition from their Alps forts and secret caves is largely a romantic legend, born of the strategy (Réduit National) that was adopted during WW2 in prevision of an invasion.
    In reality, the Swiss army is very small and rather weak in terms of conventional forces (2 armoured brigades, 32 F/A-18, a bunch of outdated F5 Tiger...) compared to most of our neighbours (France, Germany, Italy). And nobody should overestimate the fighting capacity and spirit of our brave militiamen (I used to be one of them). 3 months bootcamp and a yearly 3 weeks rehearsal (more like a 3 weeks drinking and playing cards camp) don't make very professional soldiers !
    Also, the country is not really "protected" by the Alps. The country consists of 60% alpine regions, 30% Plateau (flat plains) and 10% Jura (Jura is a mountain range that is much older than the Alps and as such much less abrupt).

    Green : Jura, Yellow : Plateau, Brown : Alps. Source: wikipedia

    But all major cities and most of the population and industries lies in the Plateau :

    Population density, Source: wikipedia

    See the second map ? Red areas are the flat lands where all the cities, infrastructure and people are. With the exception of the Valais (bottom left) and Ticino, all the red areas are outside of the Alps region. And the Alps don't form a protective wall around the country.
    A powerful enough army invading from the North, East or West would not have much trouble taking control of the whole plateau.
    The Swiss army (what would be left of it) might be able to retire to fortifications high in the mountains, but so what? What are mountains worth when you have lost all your major cities, industries, and maybe most importantly all the civilian population is under occupation ? Not great for morale. All you can do is stay hidden in your caves until your supplies run out... while your family is being subjected to whatever treatment the invader decides.
    The invaders just have to contain you, while they enjoy the chocolate, the watches, the gold and the women... Capitulation would have to come quickly.

    Ką manote?

  • #2
    War History Online straipsnis apie turbūt tik Šveicarijoje (ir Lichtenšteine:D) įmanomus kuriozus. Šveicarija netyčia įsiveržė į Lichtenšteiną. Tris kartus per 30 metų.

    Neutral Switzerland Has Invaded Liechtenstein 3 times in 30 years – by Mistake!

    Most people associate Switzerland with mountains, chocolates, watches, and Swiss Army knives. They also think of a peaceful and neutral country that’s fanatic about avoiding war, and would certainly never invade a neighbour! Well, they’re wrong – just ask Liechtenstein.

    Kadangi pačiam teko būti (ir net suvalgyti McDonald'ą) Lichtenšteine nakties metu, tai visai suprantu, kodėl ten jie galėjo netyčia patekti. Tiesiog ėjo ir nuėjo
    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting - Sun Tzu


    • #3
      BBC straipsnis apie tai, kaip neutrali Šveicarija Šaltojo karo metu bendradarbiavo su NATO šalim JK ruošdama savo ypatingos paskirties dalinį P-26:

      UK military helped secret Swiss force in Cold War, 2018.04.27

      The Cornu report reveals that neutral Switzerland had surprisingly close co-operation with the UK - a Nato member.
      But some readers are disappointed; the full details were heavily redacted by the Swiss government.
      P-26, a 400-strong Swiss army unit, was designed to "stay behind" and resist a possible Soviet invasion.
      The report is named after Swiss judge Pierre Cornu, who wrote it.
      When the existence of P-26 came to light in 1991, the limited information about it suggested its officers had co-operated closely with a number of Nato member states.


      • #4
        Kadangi temos apie Austrijos kariuomenę nėra, dedu apie Austrijos artilerijos batalioną čia. Viena austrai šalia Šveicarijos, antra ginkluoti M109A5, šveicarai M109L47 Kawest. Įrašas 2018-10-31, kaip suprantu M109A5, kaip pardavė Latvijai.

        Apie austrų panzergrenadierius.

        Austrų jėgeriai. Pagal vaizdo medžiagą, iki šiol naudoja švedų PTRK BILL2.

        Austrų jagdkomanda-panašu į mūsų SOP. Fizinio pasirengimo pratimai geri, kaži mūsų SOP panašūs yra.

        Last edited by Danas; 5 November 2018, 11:23.


        • #5
          ŠVEICARŲ M109L47 KAWEST modernizacija.

          Last edited by Danas; 4 November 2018, 13:34.


          • #6
            Switzerland’s $6.5 billion fighter jet plan narrowly passes referendum