IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2018-03-19

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zOnnyjelkner , are you here ?11:44
jelknerzOnny, i'm in class11:53
jelknerbut yes, i'm here11:53
jelknerGood morning, replaceafill, how was your weekend away?11:57
replaceafillgood morning jelkner, it was nice11:57
zOnnyjelkner, I have a question11:59
zOnnyhey replaceafill 12:00
replaceafillhello zOnny12:00
zOnnyhey replaceafill the admin can change completelly the memberships form right ?12:02
replaceafillzOnny, yes12:02
jelkneryes, zOnny?12:02
zOnnyreplaceafill ,thanks that they say in the links that you linked 12:03
replaceafillzOnny, yes, remember those detailed steps we have in the ORA and NEA4OR google docs12:03
zOnnyjelkner , How much did you said the members should pay to join Novalaciro? and for how long of period of time that will be ?12:03
zOnnyright, replaceafill12:03
replaceafillzOnny, that's how you set up the form12:04
zOnnyI want to make sure that all the field can be changed once the admin change decisions , replaceafill12:04
replaceafillzOnny, ok12:05
jelknerzOnny, we haven't decided that yet.12:08
jelknerthat is part of our bylaws discussion12:08
jelknerscheduled for 4/812:08
jelknernever mind12:08
jelkner$30 per year12:08
zOnnythanks jelkner12:08
jelknerbut only the novalaciro board can approve that12:09
jelknerand we don't meet again until 4/712:09
jelknerso it is unofficial for now12:09
zOnnyI will keep that for a while then I will change it , jelkner12:10
replaceafillzOnny, friendly reminder that the membership forms are stored in the database12:11
zOnnywhat is that replaceafill :)12:12
replaceafillzOnny, if you're working on the testing server12:12
zOnnyI got it , thanks replaceafill12:12
replaceafillzOnny, you will need to make the change to the forms in the production server once you move over12:12
replaceafillzOnny, that's why having those steps documented is really important12:13
replaceafillzOnny, never trust your memory :)12:13
zOnnyoh you right replaceafill12:14
zOnnyI am not sure that it will be very specific as you did replaceafill12:15
replaceafillzOnny, you should try12:16
replaceafillzOnny, you have a couple of models12:16
replaceafillzOnny, what if you're not the one doing the task in production?12:16
replaceafillzOnny, sometimes it's good to assume you won't be in charge of everything12:16
replaceafillzOnny, it helps you record either history or process12:17
replaceafillzOnny, but as usual, it's your call :)12:17
zOnnyok , replaceafill 12:19
zOnnyreplaceafill do you have time today ? 12:34
replaceafillzOnny, 4 pm?12:35
zOnnycool , replaceafill12:36
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zOnnyhey replaceafill13:52
replaceafillhey zOnny13:52
zOnnyI set up in the zOnny's testing instance for NOVALACIRO, replaceafill   13:55
replaceafillzOnny, yeah, i read yesterday's logs13:55
replaceafillzOnny, and received an email about IO in that server13:55
zOnnythere is away that they can see that with only clicking the link ? replaceafill13:56
replaceafillzOnny, what do you mean?13:56
replaceafillzOnny, "only clicking the link"?13:56
zOnnyto allow jelkner and Daniela track the proccess13:57
zOnnybecause it needs to runserver first right ? replaceafill13:58
replaceafillzOnny, can't you just send them the same link you posted eysterday?13:58
replaceafillzOnny, oh, you're asking how to leave the server running?13:58
replaceafillzOnny, so you don't have to start it manually?13:58
replaceafillzOnny, well, it depends on the degree of control you want13:59
replaceafillzOnny, i think mjsir911 taught you a way to do it adding & at the end13:59
replaceafillzOnny, ...the end of the runserver command13:59
replaceafillzOnny, remember?13:59
replaceafillzOnny, and then you needed to kill a couple of processes when you wanted to stop it13:59
zOnnyoh yeah, replaceafill14:00
replaceafillzOnny, that could work14:00
replaceafillzOnny, just make sure to do "runserver" or whatever port you have available14:01
replaceafillzOnny, the part is the important part14:01
zOnnyuuhhmmm but what will happens once I turned off my machine , replaceafill14:01
replaceafillzOnny, you're running it in the server, right?14:02
replaceafillzOnny, what you call "the zOnny's testing instance"14:02
replaceafillzOnny, what you used to call tendenci@localhost?14:02
replaceafillhey mr_german14:03
mr_germanhey replaceafill 14:04
replaceafillmr_german, how's the rsvp theming going?14:04
mr_germanreplaceafill, let me check14:04
mr_germanreplaceafill, i have done 2 items14:05
mr_germanthat you wrote in the issue14:05
mr_germanjust need to theme "/events/18/registrants/search/" and "/events/18/registrations/c8fc4742e75310565e6eacb1faa758a3/"14:05
replaceafillmr_german, could you open a merge request on your working branch to check it14:06
replaceafillmr_german, thanks14:06
replaceafillmr_german, your editor dude! your editor!14:08
replaceafillmr_german, line 89 on that css file shouldn't be modified14:09
replaceafillmr_german, it's not part of your work14:09
replaceafillmr_german, line 170, etc etc14:09
mr_germanreplaceafill, but, it not too much as used to be14:09
replaceafillmr_german, you mean, the noise from your editor?14:10
replaceafillmr_german, you're right, but it should be zero14:10
mr_germanreplaceafill, i know14:10
replaceafillmr_german, the problem is not the editor really, it's your lack of checking "git status" in order to realize14:11
replaceafillmr_german, forturnately this is work in progress ;)14:11
mr_germanreplaceafill, well.. I'll try to re conf my editor14:11
replaceafillmr_german, please...14:12
replaceafillmr_german, you're so good at designing14:12
replaceafillmr_german, but i keep wondering why you still don't get css classes fully14:13
replaceafillmr_german, i'm looking at
replaceafillmr_german, count the number of "list-style: none" rules you've added14:14
replaceafillmr_german, if you have control on the theme templates, why don't you just add a "styleless-list" class14:15
replaceafillmr_german, and reuse that in each case14:15
replaceafillmr_german, instead of changing every single ul you find14:16
replaceafillzOnny, same advice to you ^14:16
replaceafillmr_german,  "font-family: 'Play', sans-serif;"14:16
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny fortunately i made progress on my visual regression testing research during my vacation :D14:18
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny so we may be close to a css refactoring fiesta!14:18
mr_germanreplaceafill, well, I'll work on the 2 left items and I'll remove them14:18
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny where all these little annoyances will disappear (for a while)14:18
replaceafillmr_german, kk, thanks!14:18
jelknerping replaceafill 14:29
replaceafilljelkner, pong14:29
jelknera couple of questions on completely unrelated things14:30
jelkner1st thing: are we going to be managing our own emails for novalaciro?14:30
replaceafillACTION assumes jelkner is typing 2nd thing?14:32
jelkneri'm going to want daniela to have both: and outreach@novalaciro.org14:32
jelknerACTION is not typing the 2nd thing14:32
replaceafilljelkner, ah ok14:32
jelknerjust waiting for the first ;-)14:32
replaceafilljelkner, the email server is up for novalaciro14:32
replaceafilljelkner, and the tendenci instance is set up to use it14:32
jelknerso we will be handling email addresses ourselves, yes?14:33
replaceafilljelkner, i can create those two inboxes for Daniela14:33
replaceafilljelkner, i think so14:33
jelknerthat's why i'm asking14:33
replaceafilljelkner, unless you want something different :)14:33
jelkneri want to do whatever replaceafill tells me to do!14:33
replaceafilljelkner, i'll create the two inboxes and send Daniela instructions on how to access them14:34
jelknerhold on14:34
replaceafilljelkner, is tomorrow ok for that?14:34
jelkneri'm going to want secretary@novalaciro.org14:34
jelknerand maurico can use president@novalaciro.org14:34
jelknerlet's talk about how this should work14:35
jelknerpeople will want it to forward to some other email address, yes?14:35
replaceafilljelkner, our set up uses imap mailboxes14:35
replaceafilljelkner, the forwards are possible but we haven't tested them14:36
jelknerlet's talk about that tomorrow14:36
jelkneri'll leave you be for now14:36
replaceafilljelkner, cool14:36
jelknerwe want zOnny to understand all this14:36
replaceafilljelkner, what's the 2nd thing though?14:36
jelkneri've been talking with lelkneralfaro and ubuntourist about bylaws14:37
jelknerwe are not all on the same page regarding how "big" they should be14:37
jelknerand we have two versions in the works14:37
replaceafilljelkner, ah, i noticed you created a repo14:37
jelknermy immediate question concerns tech14:37
jelknermarkup, specificially14:37
jelknermarkdown doesn't support enough to use for bylaws, i'm beginning to think14:38
jelknersince you can't even do an outline14:38
jelknerReST would certainly work14:38
jelknerand i know ReST14:38
jelknersphinx rocks14:38
jelknerso, would you recommend i use sphinx?14:39
jelkneri would be happy to do that, but i need the approval of our main developer14:39
replaceafilljelkner, i've seen some people create separate packages for things like outlining markdown14:40
replaceafilljelkner, but if your familiar with sphinx14:40
jelknerdo they render right on gitlab14:40
replaceafilljelkner, i'd go with that14:40
jelknerthat's the question14:40
replaceafilljelkner, not really, they're not integrated in the content14:40
replaceafilljelkner, it's like with sphinx14:41
replaceafilljelkner, they're separate steps14:41
replaceafilljelkner, why is the gitlab rendering important?14:41
jelknerwell, sphinx then14:41
jelknerzOnny, has already styled it14:41
replaceafilljelkner, you could serve the html from gitlab14:41
jelknerwe will soon have our own website with tendenci cms and such14:42
jelknerwe should serve it from there14:42
jelkneri guess14:42
jelknersince we need to build before we serve it14:43
replaceafilljelkner, oh14:43
replaceafilljelkner, the bylaws are going to our website?14:43
jelknerwe want to make them available, right?14:44
replaceafilljelkner, i don't mind14:44
jelknerthey are in a public repository14:44
jelknerso i would say yes14:44
jelknerbut let's talk about that14:44
jelkneri think we should14:44
jelknerif we do them well, they can be used as model by others14:44
replaceafilljelkner, +114:45
replaceafilljelkner, you forked the ones you're working on, right?14:45
jelknerok, let me work on the Sphinx conversion14:45
replaceafilljelkner, ok14:45
jelknerthanks, replaceafill, that's all i needed14:46
jelkneri'll confirm with ubuntourist tomorrow morning14:46
replaceafilljelkner, cool14:46
replaceafilljelkner, that's coming from here:
jelknerhow does it get built?14:46
replaceafilljelkner, gitlab pages14:47
replaceafilljelkner, with sphinx14:47
jelknerso locally?14:47
jelknernot on gitlab14:47
replaceafilljelkner, yes14:47
replaceafilljelkner, on gitlab14:47
jelknerthat would rock!14:47
replaceafilljelkner, it's like github pages14:47
jelkneri need to learn how to do that14:47
replaceafilljelkner, but you can add sphinx rendering14:47
jelknerbut it supports sphinx14:47
replaceafilljelkner, yes14:48
jelknerwe must love gitlab!14:48
replaceafilljelkner, :D14:48
jelknerthat settles it14:48
jelknerit's a no brainer in that case14:48
replaceafilljelkner, +114:48
jelkneronce again, we follow in the footsteps of schooltool ;-)14:49
jelkneroh, one more thing14:49
jelkner(which makes the 3rd thing)14:49
jelkner38 school districts in virginia are now using schooltool14:50
jelknerglenda is the only one supporting it14:50
jelkner(poor glenda :-(14:50
replaceafilljelkner, ouch :(14:51
jelkneri said i would reach out to you and mattva01 to see out putting it in docker14:51
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, wow, but ouch14:51
jelknersince by next year, 14.04 won't be supported any more14:51
jelkneri'll leave you to ponder that for a bit14:51
replaceafilljelkner, but schooltool.cando 1.8 works in 16.04 right?14:51
jelknerdoes it?14:52
jelkneri don't know14:52
jelkneri thought the zope packages were never ported14:52
jelkneryou know more than i do14:52
jelknergotta run14:52
replaceafilljelkner, i feel embarassed of recognizing i don't remember14:52
replaceafilljelkner, ok14:52
jelknerstudents need me14:52
jelknerlet's talk later14:52
replaceafilljelkner, tty14:52
replaceafilljelkner, sure14:52
replaceafilljelkner, i'll find out about that schooltool software you refer to ;)14:53
replaceafillok, time for lunch14:57
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4514:57
jelknerACTION signs off to go from work to home15:10
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replaceafillhey zOnny16:05
zOnnyhey replaceafill16:06
replaceafillzOnny, do you still want us to meet?16:07
zOnnyof course , replaceafil16:07
replaceafillzOnny, ok16:08
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