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[–]LightCodeGaming( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (26 children)

Do you own the legal rights to use the song?

[–]castingeiot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same thing happened to me but right now I'm waiting for the dispute

[–]Khriswolfy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who was just about to purchase their service, this screams a big NO for me dawg. I think I'll use no music or at best go with youtube's free library.

[–]TnStriker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s not how the copyright system works. Even if you bought the music you can’t avoid the copyright system. Unless you are the one who made the music OR if you are put on list on people that are allowed to use the music in videos then you can use it. There’s a reason why Monstercat or other music distributors has a option to get a youtube license or twitch license. The only other option that is available if the music is copyright free, if it’s not then you out of luck.

[–]TheThiccExpress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly so broken

[–]ArcusCerus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sick of companies pulling this bullshit on people.

[–]Kougeru 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this is more of an issue with Epidemc Sound than Youtube

[–]jmona789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd they ignore your dispute for long enough it becomes monitized for you again.

[–]TexBoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a license with Epidemic sound as well, You can just email them and they will give you an answer within 24 hours, Friendly support staff when I have contacted them

[–]syedaabid20pewdiepie > T-series -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I honestly always thought that EpidemicSound was one of the only good music companies left...

[–]TheClassyMustache 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s how mafia works

[–]Julian1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I contacted Epidemic Sounds via email. They have now removed the claim. Can you confirm that?

[–]dannymaltdannymalt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do movie reviews and use trailer footage. I get copyright claims, I disputed them under fair use, 50% of the time my disputed gets rejected, I think some companies just auto-reject it, so I appeal and every time they then accept it.

So I suggest just appealing, and the video will probably be cleared. Also contact their customer support too.

[–]apocelipses 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I exclusively use Epidemic on my videos and after posting hundreds of videos I have never once had Epidemic claim a song. I'm willing to bet you haven't properly linked your channel to your epidemic account.

[–]xAiProdigy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is becoming illegal at this point. This is absolutely ridiculous that music companies keep doing this!

[–]AshsToAshs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Since I haven't seen anyone mention it yet: have you whitelisted your YouTube channel with Epidemic yet?

Once you do that, they no longer perform any claims on your channel.

[–]ExpertGamerJohn -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you chargeback from Epidemic then?

[–]guyfromgirl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe Epidemic's team can help you. Because it happens sometimes and you need big company's help

[–]yasinvaihttps://www.youtube.com/yasinhasan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

just email epidemic music, they solved this problem twice for me

[–]rexiegall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would definitely contact their support! I've had some problems with my copyright music on Instagram with them (even though my account was pre-approved months ago) and they answered right away.

[–]Zhafmusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually it's not YouTube fault, the company label that own rights to music is messed up

[–]FrankyKnuckles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This happened to me. I contacted Epidemic sound and they replied within 24 hours, asked for my channel url and whitelisted it. Haven’t had the problem since and I still use their services.

[–]KoopaTrooper5011 1 point2 points  (2 children)

upvoted because they only cared about one thing

fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking money

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[–]KoopaTrooper5011 1 point2 points  (0 children)

please let me apologize for cussing. I side with this post's creator, because fuckery is THE sin.

[–]geiserp4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's your channel name btw, just curious

[–]jax9999 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

this is why i don't use music

[–]asergea 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This is the exact reason I produce my own Music for my vids.. they might not be the best tracks out there, and I'm no major talent by any stretch of the imagination.. but I can produce what I think sounds best for my vids and theres no danger of copyright issues..

[–]pogolink 2 points3 points  (1 child)

May I ask how do you do it... perhaps this is the way everyone should proceed from now on... I would love to learn

[–]asergea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use FL Studio (It's not Cheap but it's the best for me) , I have midi Keyboards and a guitar, I have a few tracks using acapellas from LooperMan, but they're mostly tracks that I use for background/Mood music.. I throw them up on sound cloud for friends to use if they want.. other than that I stay away from any music company giving away free music, I hear too many stories about these firms hitting you for your revenue or hitting your account with copyright strikes.. so even if you have a old Casio keyboard and a use your computer mic, you can still come up with something that will fit some backing sounds for your video..

[–]EnXigma -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Do you have permission to use the song? Just because you paid for the song doesn’t mean you can use it for a YouTube video for monetary gains.

[–]topshophacka -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Am i the only one who stoped doing youtube videos and stwitched to lifestreaming on Twitch? GamerGenetics

[–]FinalFrontierYTYouTube channel: Final Frontier 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just keep appealing. At some stage it will be up to them to potentially take you to court, and at that's when someone actually half-intelligent will look at the claim and realise they're in the wrong.

[–]BobbyJoe0306 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, you again. The one who posted here saying “Oh wow look at the wood play button with your channel on it” and then is surprised that this happened.

[–]kres0345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Copyright system aside, are you taking inspiration from Jarvis Johnson?

[–]Ethanfirehair 7 points8 points  (0 children)

thats basically fraud

[–]UniHack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome to YouTube Year 2019

[–]Scratchbrainstormer -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So in the industry we call this bullshit.

[–]thedorkening 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought music from audiojungle for our intro and needed to stop using it since some schmuck company started claiming that music as their own.

I contacted the artist but they didn't do anything.

[–]ilvstranger -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hmmm... I'm already saying from more than a year now.

Youtube step up the game and they want to show only what they want to show.

Only what the big partners they have and what us gov wants to be shown. Banning lot of things last year, together with the lame facebook and the little kids as twitter who needed to follow the big daddy's (google) steps.

Since late 2017, when youtube started to kill lot of good big youtubers channels and obliged them to do things that their channel were not about.

And for the ones who will cry as babies that we should not complain about a free service as youtube, remember one thing: Nothing is free!

Metadata and all the background data that is working behind gmail, chrome, windows, facebook, uber and all others, are the big money that they make.

They were just preparing the field with their "free products" to make people being used with a way to be.

The rest, is in your power to understand the mess.

That's why we have a small chance through a good blockchain project and with just opening our eyes.



Intellectual property shouldn't exist period, the Digital Millenium Copyright Act has been a disaster for the internet.

[–]KyleMcMahon 3 points4 points  (3 children)

People shouldn’t own things they create?


You can't own the abstract idea of a thing. You can come up with contracts and agreements based on them, but you can't own every instance of their use. Half the time we don't even know who 'owns' them. It makes absolutely no sense, we've all been duped into the lie that the form of a work is some physical object that can be 'stolen' or 'owned'.

Imagine if every word you use, you had to call up the person who came up with that word, or if they’re dead, their descendants, and say, “Can I have permission to use this word?” You’d never get through a sentence.

Aaron Swartz

[–]KyleMcMahon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Except language already exists and is available for all to use freely. Creating something that didn’t exist before, absolutely deserves ownership by the person who spent days / months / years creating it. Otherwise, there would be no way to create art as a living and we’d ultimately get less art.



Art that can't be transformed is useless. Also this is untrue, copyright doesn't help you in doing commissions or sponsorships, which is the only way any artist makes money nowadays.

we’d ultimately get less art.

I doubt that.

[–]linkorb 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Colgate deleted my first channel like 10 years ago over a Dr. Rabbit youtube poop

[–]Snuupr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So nothing has changed over the years?

[–]linkorb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Things have gotten worse

[–]Trynottobeacunt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Licensors amirite.

I love how there is no punishment for the ones who repeatedly are shown to be doing this or just scamming generally.

All the punishment is aimed at the average user and is never aimed at licensors or networked claimants.


I can forsee a class action law suit related to this in the near future, they're rubbing a lot of people up the wrong way.

[–]magicalwol 38 points39 points  (1 child)

And you’re sure it’s the same YT account you registered to epidemic sound?

You can only use one YT channel per Epidemic Sound account.

I’ve personally never had any problems with ES.


This was my thought. I have two Epidemic accounts because I have two channels. You don't have to use both channels to do your searching and downloading, but you absolutely need to pay for both of them if you're using two YouTube channels.

[–]ToniNottit0nin0t & ALFASUSI YT 3 points4 points  (4 children)

So just dispute it again.

[–]Rosien_HoH 0 points1 point  (3 children)

And get a copyright strike. Great.

[–]ToniNottit0nin0t & ALFASUSI YT 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You don't get a strike for that. You will be then either took to court or claim will be false.

[–]atericparkerGold Product Expert 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're confusing the appeal with the counter notice. The counter notice (one that requires court) has to be filed after you receive a strike.

[–]Rosien_HoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you dispute a claim and then they uphold it, it becomes a strike.

[–]JealxHD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So true, I uploaded a scrap song I made on my smurf account, it got taken down for copyright, I filed a dispute which got denied + they striked me for filing a dispute. Im now on my second dispute which takes 6 months... fuck this copyright system honestly

[–]Malthetalthe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you say buy, do you mean you bought it on itunes or something like that?

[–]UncleComrade 2 points3 points  (0 children)


[–]zedaxis 195 points196 points  (2 children)

File a claim on the payment and issue a report of fraud against them. This is exactly what happened. Just the notion of them being classified as fraudulent will make them back off and honour all contractual obligations.

[–]Clean_Livlng 3 points4 points  (1 child)


What's the process for this, or where could they go to find out?

[–]zedaxis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You likely paid with a credit card for the service, communicate with the credit card agency and provide all the evidence. You requested a contractual service which was not honoured, which in itself is fraud. This should allow you to notify your credit card agency of this itself being a type of fraud. That action will cause an investigation into them and can cause their payment services to withdraw from supporting them because of the potential of being linked to fraudulent activities.

[–]CuteBananaMuffin -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Sue them and get thousands in return:) profit

[–]McCool71 70 points71 points  (10 children)

Stock music services that allows for use on YouTube usually add your channel to a whitelist when you are a customer to avoid stuff like this happening. They have to be told what your channel is of course - log in to their site and it might even be something you can do yourself.

[–]Khriswolfy -1 points0 points  (2 children)

No dude. They offer a paid service and it's their contractual obligation to whitelist you. YOU PAY FOR IT for christ's sake.

[–]McCool71 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So they are expected to know what your channel name is even though you don't tell them? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea....

[–]Khriswolfy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dude, when you register on their site you are already providing your youtube channel name and direct link. THEY REQUIRE THAT as you purchase the subscription. It's their first requirement. The fact that they don't whitelist you automatically and instead rely on cheap tactics says a lot about them.

[–]AshsToAshs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the answer.

These comments all full of people bashing epidemic, when in fact the OP likely just hasn't whitelisted his channel yet. (And I don't mean that as an insult to the OP. I did the same thing when I first started using Epidemic)

[–]Draculushigh quality edits - youtube.com/Draculus 31 points32 points  (4 children)

This is a manual claim as well, not automatic

[–]McCool71 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Doesn't matter much if the channel name doesn't match up with the name used for payment. Most people use their own name/credit card when ordering and a totally different name for their channel.

There is no way that they can make the connection between Peter Pumpkinhead and the channel SuperHotCars unless Peter Pumpkinhead lets them know that the bought content will be used on said channel.

Most stock services let you enter this info by yourself, either when ordering or by logging in afterwards to avoid situations like these.

Edit: Seems like they do have a system like this in place: https://epidemicsound.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/214382865-How-do-I-check-so-that-the-correct-channel-is-cleared-under-the-Subscription-

[–]RaptorPotractor 20 points21 points  (2 children)

"Manually Claimed" just means that Youtube wasn't sure so they flagged it to the company in question who 'manually' reviewed it.

It's not like the company is physically watching every single video on Youtube to find anyone using their music.

Edit; spelling

[–]atericparkerGold Product Expert 16 points17 points  (1 child)

No it does not. That's a completely different thing. A manual claim uses a special interface to search for videos, you then select the video you want, watch it and determine if you want to claim it (this feature is heavily restricted). Route for manual review (what you're thinking of) is for other cases and that one will show up as a normal autoclaim.

[–]RaptorPotractor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well , you live and learn.

[–]Nimeni1234 154 points155 points  (12 children)

This is weird. Did you contact YouTube or did you contact EpidemicSound with your payment proof? In my opinion this has to be solved by the guys at Epidemic. Usually the white flag your channel. They cannot afford to have their name in such a mess. Everybody is saying EpidemicSound is legit. Contact them on all the channels, email, Facebook, Twitter, etc. They'll have to give you an answer.

[–]ParanoidFactoid 90 points91 points  (6 children)

It is not the least bit weird. It is standard operating procedure these days.

The Youtube copyright system has been turned into a means for corporate fraud. And Google appears to have decided it's in their best interest to foster fraudulent conduct by their corporate partners through their system.

Sue their asses.

[–]apocelipses 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I make a living as part of a 4-player co-op YouTube channel that has exclusively used Epidemic for 5 years. If they really wanted to try and commit "corporate fraud" as you're suggesting, we'd be a prime target, but they have never once put a copyright claim on our videos.

Never mind the suggestion that OP "sue their asses" is just naive, how about you use common sense before jumping to the most extreme conclusion. It's much more likely OP either didn't properly whitelist Epidemic.

[–]ParanoidFactoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Testimonials don't move me.

[–]RaptorPotractor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep, because OP has $$$$$$ to take them to court.

[–]Nimeni1234 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Ok, I understand. But this is Epidemic Sound business. So they cannot afford bad publicity. If these things happens, nobody will buy their music anymore. That why I say again, contact Epidemic Sound and let them know about the issue.

[–]ParanoidFactoid 19 points20 points  (1 child)

...contact Epidemic Sound and let them know about the issue.

Good luck with that advice, OP.

And after they ignore you, send a registered return receipt letter to their corporate office detailing your grievance. And if that goes nowhere, hire a lawyer. Or look for other aggrieved parties to form a class action.

[–]stefankecina 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Contact a lawyer immediately, to make sure you weren't scammed in the first place by them. Them threaten them with a lawsuit and you might get somewhere.