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hmmm yet another Microsoft screwup....

By Jaqui ·
This one in the PRIVACY DEPARTMENT!!!!!
They admitted, publicly, that they took data from your msn searches and handed it to us government, to allow the us government to illegally tap your phones and monitor your internet activities.
That is SPYWARE in action..oh, it's Microsoft in action, the largest spyware company in the world.
Use Microsoft?
Not when they have just proven beyond all doubt that their sole intention is to screw you over, by denying you the rights of existing privacy legislation at thier whim.**0/microsoft-admits-to-handing-over-search-data-to-feds.html

You can if you want, just don't expect to be getting any respect from people that Respect Privacy laws.

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by CharTech In reply to Totally Ignorant Of Histo ...

Even though I don't know that all your facts are straight about Hitler, I still like your point.


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Flush your headgear, professor...

by user223 In reply to Totally Ignorant Of Histo ...

What's really appalling is your completely twisted view of history. You are way off topic; I think the originating topic was a thinly disguised attempt to bash Microsoft but has digressed into some sort of curious form of American self-loathing that one runs into from time to time.
Every great president of note going back to Washington has overridden the Constitution when national security has been threatened. That is in the job description. Lincoln said it best - ?The Constitution is not a suicide pact?. The executive?s use of war-time powers is essential to preserving the Union and is fully and totally constitutional.
The noble and so-called "indigenous peoples" you speak of came here from elsewhere. They practiced both slavery and genocide, as did the "indigenous peoples" of Africa. Furthermore, a country is only your country so long as you can make that so by force of arms. The "indigenous peoples" folks knew this, too. It?s the circle of life, Simba, deal with it whether you like it or not. Believe me when I tell you that if the "indigenous peoples" would have won out in our countries wouldn't like the resulting Comanche domestic policy regarding those happening to have a pale face.
Emancipation was a footnote to the Civil War and had nothing to do with the reason it was fought. It was only enacted to further stress the South economically and also to **** them off.
The only thing you were right about is that it took 100 yrs for women to get the right to vote. Whether that was a good idea is another discussion.

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Your sarcasm.

by noyoki In reply to Flush your headgear, prof ...


Explain please, how it is a bad idea, and how equal rights is wrong.

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by user223 In reply to Flush your headgear, prof ...

That last bit was a joke, and...I didn't think it was funny.

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Going left...

by jd255 In reply to no its not

Okay you'all are being "misdirected" once again. Child Porn is just the "in" to allow the government access. Can we say "Patriot Act"?... Illegal wire taps, Illegal surveilance, etc.... c'mon now let's not fall fot that shyte again. Yes, child porn is terrible. But there are other ways to catch crimes/criminals on the INET opposed to giving up personal data. Personally I could care less being that I moved out of Amerikkka :) However, I do feel as though it's my duty to go to Google and Yahoo daily and do searches for things like "How to join Al-Qaida?"; "Where can I become a freedom fighter?" etc... For one simple fact. I'm Amerikkkan (& a Veteran to boot). I do what I like when I like as long as a) I don't tramble over someone else & b) it's not against the law. What's that the CIA is at the door?... so what, why? cause I googled Al-Qaida to many times?... Yeah, righ. Tell them to go funk/frack/sluck themselves. Period. And that's my .002 cents. Peace all...

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Yes, but

by Dr Dij In reply to hmmm yet another Microsof ...

they didn't tap our phone calls!

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But Me No Buts...

by Jaqui In reply to Yes, but

The US legal system has adopted the precedent of internet traffic is legally the same as a phone call, with "reasonable expectation of privacy."

They require a court order to legally have access to any log data.

[ It's the same here in Canada, communications medium not withstanding, you expect that your search results are private, unless you post them to a website ]

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Wrong Again

by rkuhn In reply to hmmm yet another Microsof ...

Ok, so Microsoft is supposed to follow the letter of the law and hand over their source code which so many people want, but when the law ask them to turn over search records, you expect them to fight?

I say the **** with cooperating at all.

Microsoft is like tobacco, just another convenient source of revenue for government and another source of vote getting by public officials pretending they are fighting against bad evil corporate greed.

It's a joke.

The next time another tobacco tax comes up, I want a Big Mac, obseity tax enacted. And why stop there...a lazy, no exercising tax as well.

As far as Microsoft goes, when are they going to get source code from other companies?

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by Jaqui In reply to Wrong Again

I never said they should hand over source code to obey the EU court order, that was their own decision.

I think they should just detail the protocol used for a workstation to connect to a server and release that, which is what the court order from the EU court said.

Microsoft released data to the US government without a court order. That is the mistake, they didn't require that the government follow the laws to get the data.

Why did the government want it? to further erode the rights of US citizens and increase the government's ability to take everything from you just because they want to.
[ putting the powers of the patriot act into more areas of the law in essence ]

If the US Government is successfull with this legal battle, then they could be hauling you off to jail, because you were doing a research paper on snuff, the tobacco product, and some of the search results that showed up were for snuff films, which are illegal in most countries.

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by noyoki In reply to Wrong Again

> "As far as Microsoft goes, when are they going to get source code from other companies?"

Open Source?

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