Morgan Ingram: Exclusive Interview with Ryan Ingram

Morgan and Ryan.
Morgan Ingram was found dead on December 2, 2011. As her death remains a mystery, one thing is certain, she was murdered. Recently, I had the chance to speak with her older brother Ryan Ingram about his sister's life and her death. Here is what he had to tell me...

(Q) Hello Ryan. How are you?

Hello Sarah. I am doing ok.

(Q) I wanted to ask you some questions today. Can you tell me a little more about Morgan and the type of person she was?

Well, I can talk on for days about Morgan. She was a beautiful soul. She was very brilliant in many ways. She loved life. She was the best sister anyone could ask for. Morgan was very loving and caring. She was very articulate and intelligent. The list goes on.

(Q) That is so amazing. I think Morgan was such a beautiful soul. Everything about her was so amazing. Plus, she was raised by your mother who is another beautiful soul. I truly believe everyone in your family is so kind and compassionate.

Thank you.

(Q) I wanted to ask you Ryan, did Morgan ever tell you about the stalking? Did she seem distant when you talked to her? Can you tell me a little more?

We talked. Yes, she did tell me about the stalking. I was very angry about it when she told me. I wanted to help my sister, I wanted to protect my sister. She was very classy in a sense where she didn't want me to worry, when I said that I wanted to put an end to it. She was the type of young woman who did not like drama or confrontation. "No Ryan, no Ryan..." she said to me when I offered to handle it. I know my mom and dad were going to the sheriffs and filing reports about it. They were taking proper measures to catch the guy and make him stop, but I was still worried.
Morgan's request was "I love you Ryan and I will call you if I need you" and I respected her wishes like I always did. She did tell me about the stalking and I chose to go along with her feelings on the matter at that time. Knowing what I know now, I should have went against her wishes. I could kick myself now because now my sister is dead.
Morgan Ingram enjoying dinner with family
and loved ones, including Ryan Ingram.

(Q) Wow, she actually told you about stalker?

Yes, she talked to me about the stalker and so did my parents. My life did not just change after the loss of Morgan. It changed months before due to the stalking. It changed by worrying about her and my parents. The months leading up to her death were not good ones for our family. The stalker was all we thought about, and all we talked about. How do we keep her safe? What kind of person was this, what does he want, how do we catch him?
Before her stalking started in August of 2011 we talked about how much fun Morgan was having flying to Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Hawaii. We all celebrated her wrapping up her first two years of college and earning her AA degree, we talked about how wonderful the pictures were that she took of everyone in the family - we asked her to do a family portrait up on the mountain. We were a family that loved to do things together, spend time together and make wonderful memories, but the stalker took that all away from us.

(Q) Did she describe the stalker?

Yes, but referred to him as a neighbor’s boyfriend. When I did my research, I found out exactly who he was.

(Q) When is the last time you spoke with your sister? Tell me about the last time you saw Morgan...

I saw her the day before she died. She came by the shop with her friend at the time to help my dad pack up some stuff. She looked really pale. I was concerned so, me being the big brother, I asked her a bunch of questions. She was very open. She was very positive. She was in good spirits. We had a good talk. She was loving life, and having fun, just really tired. She wasn't going to let her stalker ruin her life. We said I love you and we hugged, just like we always did, like any other day, and she left. At that time I didn’t know it would be the very last time I would ever see my youngest sister alive.

(Q) Taking you back to that sad day, the day of December 2nd 2011. I know this is so hard. When you heard the news that your sister was dead, what went through your mind?

I went and destroyed my closet - I literally tore it apart. It was sometime after 6:00 am in the morning here. When I got the call, I knew it was an emergency. My mom doesn't usually call me that early in the morning, so I knew something was wrong. After I ripped apart my closet, that is when everything kind of set in. My girlfriend approached me and asked "Ryan, what is going on?" I told her that I had to go. I decided to head to their house.
When I got to the house, it was pretty much a crime scene. There was crime scene tape all around and I just went through it. I looked at the sheriffs, who looked at me shocked because I had just barged in. I remember having a little confrontational moment with them. I remember telling them "you didn't do your f^#%*@^ job!" and proceeded "And this is what the $%^& happened?!"
Morgan was laying on the ground with a towel over face. She was laying there in a frozen position. At this point, I was escorted out of the house. After that morning, I noticed that one of the cops parked his car outside of my house for a few days. I found that odd that he was more worried about me than going after the man responsible for my sister's death, even more worried about me than they ever were about protecting her how does that seem right?

(Q) I want to ask, do you believe that your sister was murdered? What are your reasons for believing she was murdered?

I never sat down and came to the conclusion as to any details about what happened, but yes, I do believe my sister was murdered.

(Q) I definitely believe she was murdered, as well. I don't believe suicide was ever the case. For someone who embraces the arts and loves writing, I find Morgan to be the type to leave a note. The drug levels are only the beginning.

Most definitely, she was not suicidal, she had a stalker, I have seen and heard the evidence, and for people to even mention suicide is not only ridiculous at this point, but an impossible conclusion given the evidence. So yes, that is exactly how I feel.

(Q) Do you think this woman, along with the alleged stalker/suspect are angry because your parents have exposed the truth and are not backing down? Do you believe their harassment is based on fear more so than anything else?

Absolutely. Everytime my parents expose something, these people come lashing back with the same exact thing every single time. "Everyone's crazy!"

(Q) Tell me a little more about the phone calls you received from the suspect's family and friends...What did they say to your girlfriend, as well as, yourself?

They approached my girlfriend and offered her incentives to give them any information, any "dirt" on me or my mom or anyone defending my parents. They offered money, as well. They basically approached a weak person and tried to manipulate that person into doing something to discredit my mom, my dad, and everyone supporting them.
The woman behind a lot of this talks a lot of trash online, but also embellishes and exaggerates her claims to fit her story. She never knew Morgan, doesn’t know our family, doesn’t even live in the same state. She was calling multiple times and not leaving any messages, so that is when I took it upon myself to call her back.

(Q) Wow...

At this point, I was so irritated because I couldn't have a conversation with anyone, she would just call and say nothing. She wasn't trying to be civil, so I just called this person and left them a message to let them know that it wasn't ok to do what they were doing. I wanted this person to stop harassing my parents and the mother of my children, as well as, anyone who supports them. I guess that gave her ammo to spread lies online and make herself look like a victim and me the bad guy for defending what is right. I didn't say anything threatening. I was just very clear when I asked her to leave my family alone.

(Q) Now I have a question, as you are aware - some people try to say that your parents, Toni and Steve are overbearing parents who cannot accept that your sister took her own life. What do you want these people to know?

My parents have always been truthful and honest. If overbearing means telling the truth and separating fact from fiction, then I guess you could say they are. Anyone who says this about my parents does not know them. They are hardworking people who knew their daughter, my sister. You will notice that as more evidence surfaces, those people connected to the stalker will try anything they can to discredit them and those that don't know much will learn more about what went wrong. There is so much evidence, there is so much proof that my sister was murdered and my parents will continue to keep going until the truth about what really happened to my sister comes out.

(Q) I have to ask, on December 2nd when you went to the house and you made your way in and so forth, did you notice anything really strange? Anything that was awkward? Anything that was odd that stood out?

Morgan was a little snuggle bug. She wore PJs to bed. Although I wasn't in the house for long, I found it very odd that she was wearing clothes she would go out in. She was in street clothes. That just wasn't my sister, that just wasn't Morgan. She was in a strange position lying on the floor and none of what I was seeing was making any sense to me.

(Q) That is just so sad. I have tears in my eyes just thinking about that day. I just want to know Ryan, I know you have a lot to say so I want you to say everything you would like to say.

I do have a lot to say. My sister's death has changed my life. After she died, I had a hard time dealing with her death. At the time, I had a great job and I was very successful. I couldn't work because of her death. It was very stressful. I could not stop thinking about Morgan. I also could not stop thinking about Morgan's stalker. I ended up moving away to try and get a fresh new start. The day Morgan was murdered everything changed for everyone in our family for the rest of our lives. Colorado was my home for many years, and I don't think I'll ever be able to live there, and do not even feel comfortable visiting.
Ryan Ingram's tattoo.

My youngest son was too young when Morgan died and will never remember his aunt. My daughter, who is nearly 6 and knew Morgan well will forever miss her aunt, she will never have cousins, and she will never know the happy go lucky grandparents that my parents used to be. As much as we have tried not to talk around her, it is impossible. She has nightmares and is scared of the dark, and to asleep alone. She asks about Morgan’s murder almost every day, and every day she wants to know if they caught that guy yet? The loss of Morgan and the manner of her death, has changed all of us, forever… I don't think any of us will ever be who we were before her death.
My mother was very passionate about everything and she knew what happened to my sister, as we all did. Everyone would talk about it and every time I kept thinking about Morgan's stalker. I miss my sister and I love my sister. I support my parents 100%. Morgan told me about him and I respected her wishes not to do what I thought I should do at the time. The reality is, my sister was murdered and justice has not been served. If I could turn back time, I would do things a lot differently.
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Morgan wrote this to her brother Ryan:

January 06, 2009

To the best brother a girl could ask for, when people tell me that the world is a cruel and horrible place all I can do is smile. I smile because I know them to be wrong. I know that the world is a beautiful place worth fighting for. I know this because of you. When I think of you I feel my heart, not the one that beats, rather the one that feels. Seventeen years here on earth, I have seen bad people and good people, but you Ryan, I know to be the best. For reasons I can 't quite explain, I see you more clearly than other people. I see your struggles and your triumphs, but mostly I see your heart. I am truly blessed to have a person like you in my life, a person who makes hope look so tangible, so real. ~Morgan



Anonymous said…
Great interview Sarah!
Anonymous said…
This crazy Mayra woman is a fruitcake. She is totally stalking the Ingrams and of course, you and anyone who supports them. I think a padded room in 302 is in this fruitloop's future.
Anonymous said…
Props to Ryan Ingram for telling the truth. It's very crazy what lengths the stalker's family and friends will go to cover up murder.
Anonymous said…
Amazing interview! Good to know Ryan has a voice and is being heard. I hope the Ingrams get the investigation open and there is closure.
Anonymous said…
My life has become a nightmare since I began supporting toni and Morgan. The same lies are told about me I was handed a Colorado blue spruce after they ran our dog over in our yard people imitating police call us and my family. This interview was very brave of Ryan and Sarah and cannot have been easy. Beautiful family great tattoo perfect brother. Sarah afsshar is a kournalist with integrity.
Did Timothy James Darovich kill JonBenet Ramsey? said…
I think Keenan totally did it. I think he killed Morgan.
Anonymous said…
Sarah afshar is a journalist with integrity. INDEED she is. despite the horrendous threats I stay close to the belief that the truth is about to crack and spill all over the guilty ones. The hubris will get them The universe I love will not let me down. The letter Morgan wrote to Ryan is the absolute truth and indicative of the thought process I attribute to Morgan. And the great beauty inside her and my win sadly murdered family member. I am not as brave as toni but it dies not surprise me AT ALL the lengths that some will go to in order to cover up a murder. Inhappen to believe the same group of people have preyed on MANY. That they roll out such successful personal attacks on all who associate with toni is also indicative of the intent to silence people. If they succeeded in isolating toni as they have others it would be much worse. So hold tight to each other
Anonymous said…
I find it odd that garden gnomes named after infamous murder cases are on the website from which the dragonfly mantra began.

I think she was stalked. Posioning isn't out of the question with Texas gang stalkers. Drugging isn't either. It is possible the person who drugged her went overboard.

I beleive, from what I've read on Toni's blog that more than one person was doing the stalking. This is evident in the noises she heard. It was a look into the future.

These type of stalkers try to treat humans as if they were animals in cages in their own homes. They are widespread and prevalent in my state, too. Often murder is the end goal. In the meantime, convincing others they are crazy is more fun.

Going through trash is a main core element of these type of stalkers which leads me to beleive the family-not just Morgan-was being stalked. She claimed on her blog someone stole their trash. Typically these type stalkers like to control the diet. I recently had one break into anothers home to steal the trash I'd left there instead of my own can. These people will stop at nothing. Stalking makes them demi-gods.
Unknown said…
Wow! What an amazing interview Sarah! You are one of the greatest writers hands down! There's alot of Morgan's close friends and some family members that wasn't interviewed. And when the case gets reopened, it will be done properly this time. I cannot wait to read the next interview that you do! I love you so much <3
Anonymous said…
Someone definitely has the obsessive compulsive disorder about The Ingrams, Sarah Afshar, Joe Valo and anyone who supports the Ingrams. Due to the botched investigation and the cause of death changed 2 times and so on... there's a lot of things that dont add up.. but they will when the case gets opened back up. When it does.. they will find impersonations of the supporters and and alot of other things as well.
Anonymous said…
I saw the story about Morgan's murder on ID discovery. I then googled the Dr Phil show. The girl and her father were totally lying in my opinion. I'm glad Toni and Steve arent backing down on this. Great interview with Ryan.
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