Message from BrianBoru in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #politics-free-for-all

2017-11-01 23:49:55 UTC  

It's a steadily declining influence

2017-11-01 23:51:41 UTC  

Is it? Because it was recently put into a bunch of states.

2017-11-01 23:51:46 UTC  

Not the other way around.

2017-11-01 23:52:09 UTC  

That's interesting. Do you have a source for that?

2017-11-01 23:53:18 UTC  

It might've been in Louisiana.

2017-11-01 23:53:25 UTC  

Gonna have to look it up again.

2017-11-01 23:55:47 UTC  

That would make sense

2017-11-01 23:56:10 UTC  

Not a threat to national security though

2017-11-01 23:56:14 UTC  


2017-11-01 23:56:44 UTC  

Now who's on the wrong side of the fence?
It not being related to national security doesn't make it any less of a problem.

2017-11-01 23:57:14 UTC  
2017-11-02 00:14:56 UTC  

To me it does

2017-11-02 00:15:06 UTC  

National security is my primary concern

2017-11-02 00:15:22 UTC  

Shit. Then why not give up all your rights then.

2017-11-02 00:15:45 UTC  

It's easier to secure the nation if no one has any rights.

2017-11-02 00:20:38 UTC  

It's not necessary

2017-11-02 00:21:13 UTC  

And I would argue against the long-term security of an Authoritarian state

2017-11-02 00:24:43 UTC  

I don't understand what religion and national security have to do with eachother, good or bad.

2017-11-02 00:28:44 UTC  

A global caliphate would certainly compromise national security

2017-11-02 00:36:16 UTC  

But the original issue was religion in the United States

2017-11-02 00:38:42 UTC  

No it was a comparison between religion in the US and radical Islam

2017-11-02 00:43:13 UTC  

Soyaman went on to make that comparison to try to reinforce his point, and while I don't agree the two can be compared, I think the original issue still stands that religion in the United States still poses many problems even if they aren't necessarily threats to national security.

2017-11-02 00:44:44 UTC  

I agree with that

2017-11-02 00:44:53 UTC  

I'm no fan of delusion

2017-11-02 00:51:33 UTC  

I conceded the point that it's not a comparison to radical islam.

2017-11-02 00:57:58 UTC  

I know you have, I'm not trying to assign viewpoints to anybody. I'm just going back over what happened and trying to untangle the topics here, since they were getting a bit muddied together.

2017-11-02 01:03:22 UTC  

Religion poisons everything

2017-11-02 01:05:18 UTC  

I agree 100%

2017-11-02 01:06:16 UTC  

Unfortunately religion seems to be symptomatic of a deeper flaw that is faith

2017-11-02 01:51:12 UTC  

i think religion is a symptom of humans natural tribal desire for heirarchy combined with the best explanation of the universe a bunch of stone age people could create, thats been perpetuated throughout history by the mutually beneficial relationship between religion and state

2017-11-02 01:51:54 UTC  

I guess I mean mostly in its current embodiment

2017-11-02 01:52:00 UTC  

there literally wasn't anything close to a better explanation available, there are probably more atheists alive now than in the rest of human history

2017-11-02 01:52:12 UTC  

Once the statist and scientific aspects have been replaced

2017-11-02 01:52:29 UTC  

its an empty hull of blind faith and god of the gaps arguments

2017-11-02 01:52:34 UTC  

There are still foundations of wishful thinking, i.e. afterlife

2017-11-02 01:54:35 UTC  

creationist arguments after you boil off the long dead bullshit you're just left with "look how pretty the sunrise is" etc and misuse of the words "chance" and "theory"

2017-11-02 01:55:29 UTC  

Masturbating to their own awe

2017-11-02 01:56:35 UTC  

i had an interesting chat with an ex-atheist catholic traditionalist on poldare and basically all his arguments were based on a fundamental denial of objective truth in favor of his feels

2017-11-02 01:56:59 UTC  

much along the same ideological lines of early fascism, unironic feels before reals

2017-11-02 01:58:42 UTC  

A tenuous comparison imo, but devaluing logic and reason is contrary to any productive system of thought

2017-11-02 01:59:24 UTC  

his justification was decidedly vague shit like "experiences i couldnt explain" etc