Discussion in 'General' started by waterhurley, May 4, 2006.

  1. hey guys. well my mom(go figure) gave me these pills today called clonezipam. i guess they are similiar to klonipin. they are .5mg doses and she said they hit u hard. she gave me to these since im in sort of a depresive state right now. i odnt like abusing perscription drugs unless they are either perscribed to me or some strong narcotic. so if anyone knows anything about these pills let me know. thanks guys
  2. clonazepam is klonopin man. Enjoy:D
  3. take around 6-8 of those .5's and you will be fucked up, its real fun, except when i got addicted but thats a different story
  4. Klonopin (Clonazepam) is normally prescribed as an anti-seizure medication. It is in a class of drugs called benzodiazepines (CNS depressor) . It is also used to relieve anxiety, and sometimes as a sleep aid. (It can also used to treat symptoms of Parkinson's disease, twitching, schizophrenia, and for pain management. ) This medication WILL make you drowsy. It can also depress your respiratory system (slow down your breathing). It can also slow your heartbeat, so taking large doses is not recommended. (No breathing and no heartbeat = .....) Some side effects are drowsiness, dizziness, dry mouth, diarrhea, muscle weakness and upset stomach. They are more prevelant with people that regularly take them though.

    My .02? Smoke a bowl. You'll feel better, and you wont fall asleep in 15 minutes.


    P.S. I know what it's like to be on a benzodiazepine...I was on Lorazepam (Ativan) for a while, and it used to put me right to sleep. I used it as a PRN anti-anxiety.

    Oh yeah, if you want to know how I know what I'm talking about, I am a Nurses Aide/Medication Tech. by trade.
  5. Hmmm- Don't wanna be a dick but as a Medical Student I've always been taught that benzos were used to treat huntington's- not parkinson's...

    Second I've also been told on really good authority that it's REALLY difficult to O.D. on benzos (for those of you who care they just increase the affinity of GABBA to it's receptor rather than opening it directly/increasing the opening time like a barbituate).

    Third- you forgot addiction as a side effect.

    Fourth- I'm not 100% sure of this (still a student- remember that) but I've never heard of benzos being used for depression. Really though if you're in a bit of a depressive state then go for a walk, talk to a friend, get a hobby, maybe STOP smoking weed for a little while. Antidepressants only work in about 30% of people anyways and even when they do there's (supposedly) a high placebo effect.
  6. ehh im gonna pop one now for the hell of it
  7. holy shit these things hit fucken fast... i poped it 10 mins ago and im already feelin it...
  8. Chew them up. I swear they almost taste sweet.:smoking:
  9. Before I respond....Glad to see another medically trained (or at least in the process of :) ) person.
    First, You are correct that Benzodiazepines can be used to treat Huntingtons. Huntington's disease is a progressive, degenerative disease that causes certain nerve cells in the brain to waste away (basically disintegrate). As a result, the afflicted person may experience uncontrolled movements, emotional disturbances and mental deterioration. Klonopin is used with patients afflicted by this terrible disease in an effort to reduce the uncontrollable movements, violent outbursts and hallucinations. Klonopin is a Central Nervous System depressor. It works by depressing the brain so it stops these actions. Parkinsons disease is another unfortunate affliction that occurs when a group of cells in an area of the brain begin to malfunction and die. These cells produce a chemical called dopamine. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter, that sends information to the parts of the brain that control movement and coordination. When a person has Parkinson's disease, their dopamine-producing cells begin to die and the amount of dopamine produced in the brain decreases. Messages from the brain telling the body how and when to move are therefore delivered more slowly, leaving a person incapable of initiating and controlling movements in a normal way. Not only can movement be slowed, but it can also be sporadic and shaky. Tremors are common. Klonopin is used in patients with Parkinsons in an effort to help the patient control their movements better, and assist with tremors and rigidity often associated with Parkinsons disease.

    Second, you are correct in the respect that it is relatively safe to overdose on benzodiazepines. OD'ers on Benzo's are easily treated and have relatively low instances of residual side effects after the initial overdose. However, when combined with other sedatives (which many people unfortunately do) like alcohol, your chances of depressing your level of consciousness increase greatly.

    Thirdly, you are correct again, I did not state that a possible side effect of Klonopin is addiction. In my world, that's pretty much a given with any pharmeceutical. But I also dealt with many many people who NEEDED to be on those medications to keep them alive.

    Fourth, I never did say (re-read my post) that Klonopin was used as a treatment for depression. That would probably present a particularly bad situation. There are many medications out there that although the primary indication would be for a certain malady, there are a wide range of reasons for a person to use the medication. Take me for instance. (Just for shits and giggles.) A while back, whilst trying to find a proper mood stablizer/anti-depressant for my bipolar disorder, my doctor put me on Depakote. I was like, Huh? Because I had only seen Depakote used in patients with seizure disorders. In addition to the most common reason for use which is generally an anti-seizure medication given to patients with epilepsy (which is what I had seen it used mostly for, as I worked with a man for two years who had horrible seizures several times daily), it has also been approved for bipolar disorder, as well as migrane prevention! Tegretol (carbamazepine) is another medication used to normally treat seizure disorders, but I was also placed on this medication, for bipolar disorder. Carbamazepine is sometimes used as an alternative to lithium in preventing the symptoms of manic depression, and is particularly effective in people with rapid swings between mania and depression (Hello! That's me!) Did you know that Lorazepam (another benzodiazepine, less rough on the liver, less chance of medication interaction, less chance of toxicity) can not only treat nervous disorders, but that they give it to patients who are going through withdrawl from drugs and alcohol? Because it's an anti-anxiety. There are many drugs out there that treat a variety of problems, not necessarily because of what the disorder is, but rather where that disorder originates from.

    You sound very intelligent, and well learned my friend. I sometimes wish that I hadn't have gotten out of the medical field, but I am happy to know that I did have the experiences and that I have gained the knowledge I have now. Maybe someday, after DS is in school and DH is done with his school, I'll have figured out why I wanted to be a nurse in the first place. But with the population I worked with for so many years, there's a term called "burnout" that unfortunately, I got smacked with. I used to work with TBI/DD/ED clients, and before that I worked with mild to severe dimentia, and then before that, I worked in end stage geriatrics in a large nursing home. Three of the most difficult sections of healthcare (IMO) and after 8 years, you get a bit...well...burned out. Best of luck to ya.

    I agree with you that if the OP is feeling depressed, to get out and do something. Take a walk, buy a magazine, take a shower, go see a movie or something. Go to the arcade. (He he, that reminds me of a porno I saw once..."Wanna go to the arcade now?)

  10. Holy bejeezus, that was a big ass post. Sorry all, I type fast and didn't gauge how much I typed until I hit the send button. Whoa.

    Looks like yer havin' fun, waterhurley.

  11. mm i like this feeling... i feel just overall "good" :smoke: deffinatley makes up for being outta fire
  12. ok now on the serch i did most people said it made them wicked drowsey and tired... i feel great and up beat and i think im going to go for a walk with the dog or something.m:)
  13. if you want to have fun , pop like to get a dosage of 5-6 mg and you feel drunk and stoned and just sort of stumble around
  14. i think hurley the mental patient on lost took those to not see people and calm down....
  15. god those things are awsome. i felt wonderful. i fel like everything was just so heavinly. then my body got wicked heavey. it hit me like a sack of bricks at around 11 last night. WHAM im out like a fucken light.

    but those things just make u feel good. kinda like x but not really...
  16. well i can honestly say that was one of the most refreshing sleeps ive had in a long time. i mean its like it makes you feel good. just for no apperent reason but u feel damn good. then about an hour or so later you feel heavy and your head feels like its floating. haha i mean i msoked someresin a few hours bfore hand but im pritty sure that was all aoutta me.
  17. well i enjoyed last night. im thinking about letting my high wear down and popping one later.

    do you think this would start the addiction? i hear these things are wicked addictive. thye are only.5's and im only taking 1. i didnt feel too drowsy and "body heavey" till a few hours later. by then i was ready to fall asleep. what a sleep i got.

    edit: someone today also told me its known as "methadone" and used to treat recovering herion addicts. it helps them come off the H. only to be come depdent on that.
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    Wait, so you took methadone? I thought they were klonopins

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