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khurasanminiatures19 Apr 2010 7:20 a.m. PST

The Hunter class of Federal Marine gun carriages is designed around a lengthened Caffarata-class hull, and can mount a variety of support weapons. Like the Caffarata infantry carrier it is a hybrid anti-grav/wheeled vehicle.

The Hunter SPA carries a 30cm neutron howitzer into battle.


The Hunter AAA provides vital air defence, mounting two pulse lasers as well as a launch box for an early warning drone which can be set to search for incoming aircraft and missiles beyond radar range.




The class is named for Thomas Peck Hunter, a 20th Century Royal Marine who was awarded the Victoria Cross for sacrificing his life to save others in his unit who were exposed to devestating enemy firepower. His extremely aggressive use of his gun (a Bren gun) to support his fellow marines sets the standard by which all Federal Marine Hunter batteries strive to perform.

Prints are done and on their way to me. Models should be available within a month or two.

mad monkey 119 Apr 2010 7:42 a.m. PST

Linkys not working. : (

28mmMan19 Apr 2010 7:43 a.m. PST

None of the links work…all show broken and no longer available :(

khurasanminiatures19 Apr 2010 7:45 a.m. PST

Fixed, it's a bug in TMP that if you post pic links, then edit the post (like to fix a typo) TMP crams additional junk text into your pic's URL and then you have to go in and manually remove it.

GeoffQRF19 Apr 2010 8:08 a.m. PST

Yep, all working for me now

BlackWidowPilot Fezian19 Apr 2010 8:45 a.m. PST

Bah! I want that Mechanoid heavy gunship, not another puny human contraption that will merely delay the inevitable!evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express

Battle Works Studios19 Apr 2010 9:03 a.m. PST

Very nice.

Jamesonsafari19 Apr 2010 9:15 a.m. PST

Isn't 4 projectiles a rather small barrage for the MLRS? Otherwise nice concepts.

khurasanminiatures19 Apr 2010 9:23 a.m. PST

Rocket tech now (and even more so in the future, one assumes) is not like in WWII when katyushas fired lots of unguided rockets and hoped for the best. Four ballistic missiles in the box is plenty, the rest being stored in the hull, which has a sliding ammo door. The box tilts back, takes four more missiles from the autoloader, and is ready to fire again.

JRacel19 Apr 2010 9:37 a.m. PST

Those are all very nice. Did you decide on production? Is this going to be a kit with three weapons (my personal choice) or One weapon and vehicle per set? I can think of lots of nice uses for the extra weapons (even though I would likely just modify them to be changeable on the one vehicle).

Looking forward to seeing this in person ehwn my order arrives.


NoseGoblin19 Apr 2010 9:48 a.m. PST

I can imagine that the missile options may include all the variants found in todays cruise missiles, AP, HE, bunker buster, bomb-lets, mines, tac nukes and so on… If you have ever seen a harpoon armed with bomb-lets its a sight to behold… It flys over the target and drops hundreds of sub munitions that wipe out a large area, so much for fox holes and soft cover :)

This is just my thoughts on the subject…

BlackWidowPilot Fezian19 Apr 2010 10:51 a.m. PST

Nose, you beat me to it; nothing says yer Bleeped texted like an on-target CBU deployment.. evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express

Jamesonsafari19 Apr 2010 11:41 a.m. PST

Fair enough. I can handle that logic.

khurasanminiatures19 Apr 2010 11:50 a.m. PST

Not to mention the DNA-seeking plasma submunitions favoured by Federal Marine gunners. grin

Leland you are getting your wish, I am happy to report, as the Hatchet gunship is in the same shipment, as is Pringul's hotrod, the art deco flying saucer I had made for planet 15. wink

Top Gun Ace19 Apr 2010 11:55 a.m. PST

Very nioe looking designs.

(Jake Collins of NZ 2)19 Apr 2010 3:01 p.m. PST

I'd think that given the direction of travel we see today in point defences, by the time we have antigrav and 'neutron' howitzers, it will be a straightforward challenge for an air defence vehicle with speed-of-light weapons like the Hunter AAA to shoot down relatively slow-moving projectiles like those fired by the Hunter MLRS.

Hence why you might in fact see a reversion to more rather than less rockets – to overload the defences.

I'd see the Hunter MLRS as useful against a low-tech foe, but much less useful against an adversary armed with similar weapons to the Federal Marines.

Lion in the Stars19 Apr 2010 3:16 p.m. PST

I agree with Collins: against an opponent with artillery interdiction batteries (like the US Navy *now*, the Israelis in about 5 years, or the Slammers), you would need to launch enough missiles or shells to overwhelm the point defenses.

khurasanminiatures19 Apr 2010 3:39 p.m. PST

I think that assumes that rocket/missile tech hasn't kept pace with technology as well.

BlackWidowPilot Fezian19 Apr 2010 6:12 p.m. PST

Mister Khurasan, Sir, ya know I'm settin' to do somethin' *unspeakable* to that poor gunship when it arrives, right? MWAAHAHAAHAHAHAAA!!!evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express

NoseGoblin19 Apr 2010 10:13 p.m. PST

Lol.. Leland, I have no idea what your thinking but I get the sense that its illegal in all 50 states :)

BlackWidowPilot Fezian19 Apr 2010 10:25 p.m. PST

Nose, it's probably outlawed by the Geneva Convention, and will land me in the docket in The Hague…. like that's gonna stop me:



Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express

(Jake Collins of NZ 2)20 Apr 2010 3:46 p.m. PST

Not sure how a rocket/missile is going to outrun a speed-of-light weapon like the Hunter AAA, which according to the colour text, has an early warning drone to extend its radar horizon. Perhaps if the MLRS had more launch rails it could fire some decoys – but now we're back where jamesonsafari started.

khurasanminiatures20 Apr 2010 4:43 p.m. PST

Well, the laser might be speed of light, but the cradle it's mounted in isn't moving at the speed of light! grin And of course the speed of light of the weapon does not mean an automatic hit, it just means that the weapon reaches its firing point at the speed of light -- where the fire control system tells it to go.

SF ballistic missiles could benefit from all sorts of technological advances, including stealth, shielding, and even light speed (or near light speed) travel.

It might be feasible to overwhelm a missile defense system with a vast number of missiles, but that seems more likely when nations are firing missiles at each other, and I mean that literally, an exchange of strategic missiles between two powers firing at each others territories. Not sure how practical it would be on a mobile tactical missile system. Note that as missile defense got better on ships in the 60s and 70s, fleets did not mount huge numbers of the same old missiles, they mounted better, faster, more lethal missiles, in basically the same numbers as before.

Of course as Doris Day's mother informed us, que sera, sera, and the future's not ours to see. Different gamers might have different visions of the future battlefield, no right or wrong, just different.

commanderroj21 Apr 2010 2:46 a.m. PST

I particularly like the 30mm neutron cannon, but i would use (hopefully will at some point)it as an externally mounted heavy tank weapon.

khurasanminiatures21 Apr 2010 4:54 a.m. PST

Yes commanderroj, that vehicle was made to work as an AT chassis as well. Mark and I tried to make weapons that would be versatile to meet different NF/SF gaming requirements. Glad you like the model!

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