

Indonesian Muslim group wants halal television.











  1. says

    The tendency to radicalization is prominent in Islam but not limited to it. Christianity, Hinduism and even Buddhism share this tragedy; people are just seeking solace in more of apparent religiosity, the more they are pressed to wall by day-to-day problems. Not to object, however, demand of Halal TV or veiled TV hosts is of course a tragedy of higher level.

  2. Sarada says


    So despite the tons of people who believe in Islam but do not support all these things you do not like you demonise the entire group and you would avoid all members of that group, blindly, without differentiation. i.e. You’re a bigot.

    This will help.

    • ibbica says

      Er… Sarada, you did read point #3 in that post you linked, right?

      I don’t see any call for slander or violence or a denial of anyone’s rights here.

      Can you provide examples of people who self-identify as Muslim and yet who would *not* insist that they should have ‘halal’ products available? (Yes, I’m asking that out of freely-admitted ignorance; I actually don’t know if such folks exist.)

  3. Shujaat says

    One of the most common questions today, asked by Muslims and non-Muslims alike, is: .Why do Muslim women cover their heads? The answer is very simple – Muslim women observe hijab because Allah has told them to do so:


    Muslims believe that their sole purpose in life is the worship of God alone, according to His instructions, as revealed in the Holy Quran, and through the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh). As such, wearing the hijab is an act of obedience to God and, hence, forms the primary basis for wearing it.

    Generalizations about Islam and Muslims are replete in todays media. Muslim women in headscarves are frequently unfairly stigmatized. They are regarded on the one hand as oppressed, and on the other, as fanatics and fundamentalists. Both depictions are grossly wrong and imprecise. Such portrayals not only misrepresent these womens strong feelings towards hijab, but also fail to acknowledge their courage and the resulting identity hijab gives them. There are even bans on wearing the hijab in some countries. When asked about this, Aminah Assilmi, a Christian convert to Islam, said: To ask me to go out without my hijab would be like asking a nun to go topless. It amazes me, and I cannot help but wonder, if they would have ordered Mary, the mother of Jesus (pbuh) to uncover her hair.



    To me hijab is a gift from Allah. It gives me the opportunity to become closer to Allah. Also quite importantly, (it provides me) the chance to stand and be recognized as a Muslim,. Fariha Khan of Rockville, Maryland, said.

    While the hijab identifies women as followers of Islam, with it comes tremendous responsibility. Hijab is not merely a covering dress, but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. The headscarf is an outer manifestation of an inner commitment to worshipping Allah , it symbolizes a commitment to piety. Self or inner morality is what gives meaning to the external scarf. This can be perceived from the overall demeanor of any Muslim woman, how she acts, dresses, speaks, and so on. In a land where misinformation about Islam and Muslims abounds, Muslim sisters have the opportunity to portray Islam in its true light

    Saba M. Baig, a graduate of Rutgers University, NJ, was 17 when she seriously started wearing hijab. She feels that she is still in the process of learning internal hijab. .My biggest realization was that hijab was not just about wearing a scarf on my head, but more of a (veil) on my heart,. said Baig. .Hijab is more than an external covering. Thats the easy part of it all. It has a lot (more) to do with modesty and just the way you present yourself..

    Imaan, a convert to Islam, adds, .Unfortunately, it also has its down side: you get discriminated against, treated as though you are oppresse. I wear it for (Allah), and because I want to. Period..


    Hijab is an Act Of Modesty

    Modest clothing and hijab are precautions to avoid social violations. The following verses of the Quran highlight that this is not limited to women only.


    According to Jabir ibn Abdullah, when he asked the Prophet (pbuh), about a mans gaze falling inadvertently on a strange woman, the Prophet replied, .Turn your eyes away. (Muslim). In another tradition, the Prophet (pbuh) chided for looking again at a woman. He said, the second glance is from Satan.

    So, contrary to popular belief, Muslim and nonMuslim, hijab is not worn for men; to keep their illicit desires in check, that is their own responsibility, as the above verse and Prophetic sayings show. Rather, Muslim women wear it for God and their own selves. Islam is a religion of moderation and of balance between extremes. Therefore, it does not expect women alone to uphold societys morality and uprightness. Rather, Islam asks men and women mutually to strive to create a healthy social environment where children may grow with positive, beautiful, constructive and practical values and concepts.



    Since Muslim women are more conspicuous because of their appearance, it is easier for people to associate them with the warped images they see in the print and broadcast media. Hence, stereotypes are perpetuated and Muslim women often seem .mysterious. to those not acquainted with the religious meanings of hijab. This aura of .mystery. cannot be removed until their lifestyles, beliefs and thought-systems are genuinely explored. And, this cannot be achieved until one is not afraid respectfully to approach Muslim women or men for that matter. So, the next time you see a Muslim, stop and talk to them. Youll feel, God-Willing, as if youre entering a different world, the world of Islam: full of humility, piety, and of course, modesty!

    1. (pbuh) here stands for peace be upon him

    • Albert Bakker says

      Yes, there would be anecdotes of foolish women. And your version of islam is the only right one. And if everyone behaved like a good muslim the world would be a better place.
      Like perhaps in Egypt or Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Afghanistan or in any of those exemplary societies where women are free and men so modest. Oh wait no, those aren’t real muslims.

    • F says


      Generalizations about Islam and Muslims are replete in todays media.

      And also in your previous paragraph. Who is it who is allowed to make generalizations about Muslims? Only the “right kind” of Muslim?

    • says

      One covers one’s awrah – is a woman awrah from head to toe that you need to cover her? How about learning some measure for self-control for a change if women are that tempting?

  4. baal says

    On a lighter note (and exposing some bias) I usually see Halal in the context of food. So a ‘halal TV’ for dinner would be mighty hard to swallow. Also, the women in burqa as talk show hosts looks like a Monty python skit.

    @#3 try considering how your pro-burqa/culture imperative argument sounds to someone who doesn’t believe in your god. You can do this easily by substituting the White Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland in your comment and re-reading it. That’s what it looks like to me.

  5. Coragyps says

    It has been a Long Time since I went to Indonesia, but the TV then seemed to be pretty halal. Cricket games, Balinese dance, or a hundred-and-seven year old man reading the Koran were the only three options.
    ‘Course, TV has changed a bit here in the last quarter-century, too.

  6. says

    In many countries, halal and/or kosher meat contradicts animal-protection laws. Some countries have religious exceptions. (In this sense, similar to allowing circumcision—something which would otherwise be forbidden—if it is done for religious reasons.) However, many slaughterhouses don’t want the extra cost of producing two or three kinds of meat, so it is all kosher and/or halal, but only labeled as such when sold to people wanting such meat. In other words, “normal” meat might actually be halal and/or kosher. Not a problem from the health point of view, but perhaps from an animal-protection point of view.

  7. left0ver1under says

    As always, the religious aren’t interested in controlling and dictating their own lives, which they could easily do without bothering others.

    They aren’t just interested in controlling and dictating the lives of the religions’ members, although it could be argued that members have to.

    What those clowns want is to dictate and control the lives of everyone. The whining in Indonesia isn’t about dictating to muslims, it’s about dictating to anyone who watches TV (or any other part of life the muslims want to inflict and affect).

    The only people who have to obey a religion are those who belong to it, those who believe in it. Wanting anything else is a demand for a theocracy without the honesty to admit it.

  8. Babloo says

    This is a thing what happens when your mind is half-baked..

    you start stating this idiotic statements. Firstly, my dear Nasreen, Halaal-Haraam is not just about food in Islam. But many other things. In a nut-shell, Halaal = Allowed and Haraam= Prohibited.

    Hope this enlightens your darkened brain.

    Why don’t learn the religion properly first. I double-dare you to have a private debate with Dr. Zakir Naik. I am confident that your misconceptions will be clarified.

    • JohnnieCanuck says

      A private debate with a man? What are you suggesting? Shame.

      This is the Dr. Zakir Naik who has been accused of plagiarising from the Ahmadiyya cultist Maulana Adbul Haque Vidyarthi’s book Muhammed in World Scriptures, yes?

    • Shujaat says

      Many devoted followers of the Islam see atheism as a disease to cure, or a sign that they should teach you their religion in order to help you reach on true path of religion.
      I see atheist enjoy in this world only. In spiritual world guidance of religion given us by GOD through their messengers we should pay thanks our creator of whole universe by worshiping and by doing so we can make soul purified from the sins
      We should try to give sympathy to these rouged people who need psychological therapy and their heart need purification. We should keep discussing with these sick mind people so that they can save from going straight to hell because they become atheist by choice. Religion gives us guideline for our spiritual journey

  9. Mohammad Maher Al labib Al Samin Al Rakib says

    The writer of the post sucks!!!!!!!!!!!
    Actually this Atheist site is a full of stupid things and will never understand Islam.
    Go read Science And Quran………
    Headache with “Halal”
    Halal means allowed/conductable/………Like this…
    1)halal dress…..halal food…..halal works…….halal music…….

    Oh my Atheist group i will congratulate you if you google to read Quran and also buy Quran to see if the words are true……..i.e. scientific examples given 1500 years ago……..

    Why Atheist are dangerous?
    ……they have no respect for others.
    …….they want their mother to sex with him or other(rap songs)
    ……they try to rape girls…..see wikipedia for further information..
    …….They give rises to homosexuality…immoral sex..
    I will ask the athseist …….Do you never think of the poor people….innocent people….normal life…..?!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Dont you want a child who will become the dreams of yours……?!!!!!!!!!!
    MAY GOD WRATH FALL UPON THE HOMOSEXUALS………….JUST LIKE IT HAPPENNED AROUND BLACK SEA(birth place of homosexuality)…..they are destroyed by sudden earthquake and heavy volcano eruption.
    None could escape.There is proof……search google for it…………It was seen some people were found death when they were adapt in homo sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!there is proof search google.
    Peace!!!!!!!!!You kow what does (peace) means?BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!!!!!!

  10. kamran says

    there is no compulsion in islam;no compulsion in one’s choice of religion. “…Allah guides whom He wills” (Quran: 2:272). Knowledge is a light and the light of ALLAH is not bestowed upon a sinner. muslims have to preach their religion. one cannot preach what one does not practise. it is islamophobia but why? nations with majority muslims do not follow the islamic laws of stoning to death an adulteress. . nor the law against usurpers. bangladesh is 90percent muslim population where there are christmas holidays, easter holidays, durga puja holidays and buddha purnima holidays. we call it secularism. if islam was intolerant as illiterately alleged, how does it explain 90% muslim populated country bangladesh enjoying holidays on 25Dec and on Buddhist and Hindu auspicious events annually. it’s only the few rotten apples in the basket, the likes of taliban tarnishing islam as a whole. islam is considered so bad by westerners atheists and christians alike. but we hail prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) and the virgin birth.. muslims are more reverent to prophet Jesus(pbuh) than Christians who follow the Holy Bible. we love the prophet Moses(pbuh) and Abraham(pbuh) and we remember Prophet Abraham(pbuh) everytime we remember Prophet Mohammad pbuh. as it was Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who prayed to GOD that Mohammad pbuh be born in the family line of Abraham pbuh. ALLAH KNOWS BEST

  11. kamran says

    On tue un homme, on est un assassin.
    Kill a man, and you are an assassin.
    On tue des millions d’hommes, on est un conquerant.
    Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror.

  12. kamran says

    Who started the first world war ? Muslims ? Who started the second world war ? Muslims ? Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Muslims ?? Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? Muslims ?? Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ? Muslims ?? Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ? Muslims ?? Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ? Muslims ?? No , They weren’t Muslims!!! What is terrorism.. If a non-Muslim do something is crime. But if a Muslim commit same..s/he is a terrorist… Why this double standard! Reports are rife wherein american politicians are chin-deep with the tragedy of the twin tower+others airplane attacks.. What are the citizens of your first-world countries doing about those reports. Ssshhh!

  13. kamran says

    so ms.nasreen, have you made up your mind on how you want to your dead body to be treated… burial/cremation/mummification.. i mean you must know how you wish to go … and it is so easy to change one’s name ..just publish in a newspaper.. why you go with your pseudonym of taslima nasreem unless you are getting some benefit .. you are wise .. so you must know you are better off without a name that indicates your religion as such that your first name derives from a chapter in the Holy Qur’an. best of both worlds.. have the cake plus the icing too… tsk tsk! you should know better , init!

  14. kamran says

    “Lay the proud usurpers
    low! Tyrants fall in every
    foe!! Liberty’s in every
    blow!! Let us Do – or Die!!! ! ~ Scots Wha Hae – Robert BURNS


  15. kamran says

    all suave and savvy when dealt with by the policing authorities of the arab amirates and the saudi arabia.. a different chameleon on other borders. if the dwellers of indonesia have no problem with desiring channels with veiled hostess, what is the anal itch then and for what sake !?! let them squabble and write and all they want to do. why you standing as bangladeshi spokesperson on all events international by a muslim? your writings sell as hot cakes qed’ing only the duality of homo sapiens.

  16. kamran says

    “Muslims are now becoming more and more intolerant, ignorant and arrogant. The whole situation is so weird… has become a good enough reason to stay away from them.” oh these monotheists with their veils and circumcised endowments.. keep away from us as we have been bad since eons.. what with decimating aborigines, indians and all in the way of Western Caucasian survival.. even cannibalizing amongst your own as in your history pages .. and today, you have to keep away from all things muslim.. muslims are intolerant now.. they cannot take enough of the Western bamboo in their orifices .. invading lands for oil, food, etc. muslims are intolerant and now arrogantly speaking up for themselves. Western Caucasians invading others’ lands and making them inferior to their best friends who are canine after all. you choose a canine to be your best friend in lieu of your ungrateful child who saw you treat your parents as selfishly … Oriental culture thrives on the bonds of the mother and child and on all things immaterial. We know Sir Ken Livingstone .. we also know of Uncle Tom. The Western World has always done everything for their survival.. enslaving coloured humans and uncoloured alike, to wash their dirty nappies and bury their cloet-skeletons. Today, Bakker & Kshetry join Sarada in ridiculing monotheists who choose to veil their genitals unlike those who belittle them now. And Sarada is wise to keep away from islamic monotheists. we are your shit . those who love you truly love your shit equally.

  17. kamran says

    BOB DYLAN nagging,
    … Everything from toy guns that spark
    To flesh-coloured Christs that glow in the dark
    It’s easy to see without looking too far
    That not much is really sacred.

    the seven sacraments ¬ Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Confession, Annointing of the Sick, Matrimony and Holy Orders ¬ these woMaaaan! Could See You Through A Lifetime of Troubles.

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