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Televangelist Kenneth Copeland says he needs to use THREE private jets because 'demonic environment on commercial flights are not good for a preacher'

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland has appeared in a bizarre interview where he defends his $760M fortune and using three private jets to travel the world after previously claiming he didn't want to fly commercial with 'demons'. ( さらに...

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these commercial christians have long since bypassed serving the Lord and his creation, mankind, so listen to Copeland's derangements and you will understand why church attendence in america is in decline.
Church attendance is in decline because less people are buying into mythology, except where education & science is discouraged aka the Red States!
This is NOT a political website. NO POLITICS ALLOWED.
You really need to grow up, Ken.

If you don't like the thread which is about religious hucksters, of which my post was directly on point... AND YOU just posted about below... move along.

Btw, you would have done well in the Nazi SS squad.
lynx318 2
Not a religious site either but it seems to have devolved there. Can we stick to discussing his planes or flight status.
Repeating. No politics.
QUIT posting drivel, look at your posts you hypocrite and get some therapy!
Sounds like sawdust. See below.
I saw this loony (Copeland) interviewed on last night's news. He came across as a complete fool, leering and the female interviewer,shaking a bent finger at her. No wonder he thinks he has to fly on private aircraft. If he ever appeared on a commercial flight, someone would probably unscrew the top of his head and dump out the sawdust.
Sawdust. Excellent description!
All televangelists are shrewd business people. And they are all rip off artists
A Gulfstream V for 3 million?

When God makes his best and final offer, you take it.
M. R. 1
Yeah, that was quite a score. I would’ve jump on it too lol
Just another blood sucking leach preying on those in need of and looking for help, support, and guidance and often those that can least afford it. Generation after generation sees these types around.
Many of the followers of these scheisters are NOT poor dumb and gullible. Some of them are upper middle class/wealthy and gullible
bizprop 72
Time to start treating these “churches” as business enterprises and begin taxing them.
I thought they were. However these televangelists know how to get around paying taxes. I'm sure of that!
bizprop 9
Churches and religious organizations are usually tax exempt.
linbb 4
Needs to stop just because they proport to be some person expounding God does not make them tax exempt as many preachers are very well off due to donations from those they sell snake oil to.
linbb 5
You mean the people who sell swamp water to people saying its life changing water...……….
This is a really callous, 'misinformed', an misguided statement. I don't know if you go to church, but I suspect you don't. Churches for the most part, do not use their money to get rich, accumulate things, and do not seek profit. The ones that are true to what they should be give away a lot of the money they take in, spend money on missions, sponsor charities or other missionaries, things like that. My church is in a town of app. 30,000 people and has managed to prosper I will admit. It is also a Bible based church that has its focus on God, not money, and gives away 1/3 of its budget to missions, charities and sponsors missions, missionaries, and other smaller churches.

People like Kenneth Copeland are what give the church a bad name. He is a phony and is judgemental, materialistic, and his focus on money, not God, not to be judgemental or anything. Money driven preachers like him are easy to spot. As Matthew 7:15,16 says:


Behold Kenneth Copeland, a ravenous wolf. Kenneth Copeland should resign and start selling use cars. He would be good at it.
siriusloon 15
I think the criticism was of Copeland and his ilk, not of all churches.
Note, want to see how a preacher of fame should live? Take a look at the life of Billy Graham. He dedicated his entire life to God and never sought money for money's sake. He had an independent auditor consistently audit his organization's finances to make sure there was nothing improper going one and lived in a modest house in North Carolina, not a 6-million dollar mansion. He would also send out free material when one of his crusades was broadcast, never directly asking for payment or a donations. The more I think of Kenneth Copeland, the madder it makes me, and the more I wish his ministry would go the route of Jim Bakker. I o agree to a point, that ministries like his need to looked into from a financial point of view.
siriusloon 17
Too bad his son spends his days slurping you know who. Pops would be pissed.
Unfortunately, Jim Bakker is back on one of the holy roller TV channels, peddling doomsday prepper meals and home lots on a doomsday ranch in Missouri.

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Preacher man talking on T.V.
Puttin' down the rock and roll
Wants me to send a donation
'Cause he's worried about my soul
He said Jesus walked on the water
And I know that it's true
But sometimes I think that preacherman
Would like to do a little walking too
Cal Keegan 18
These words of the American poet-philosopher Charlie Daniels strike as true today as they did when he wrote them decades ago.
thank you james..great analogy here..i had seen this interview with copeland a long time ago, and recently it was rebroadcast..i suppose this might be called an "aviation related" article,because it does mention various aircraft purchased by mr Copeland,to avoid all of those "demons" you find on commercial planes..!
msongy 14
In the famous words of Hank Williams, Jr., "Send your money to the Lord......but use their address"!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME KEN COPELAND? You know something? Growing up in the 80s my mom and I listened to Kenneth Copeland's music, and even watched his TV preaching. I listened to him, even followed along with him talking about passages in the Bible. I don't know ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE where it says it's OK FOR PREACHES TO OWN 3 JETS (probably paid for by the people in his congregation at the church he preaches at) JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE FLYING COMMERCIAL. I'm sure there's passages in the Bible saying having LOTS OF MONEY ONLY BRINGS EVIL HIS WAY! (Or something to that affect) KENNETH AND GLORIA COPELAND HAVE TURNED RIDICULOUS IN THEIR OLD AGE! Remember, it was over 30 years ago when I actually followed them. They were old THEN! They're ANCIENT NOW!
Jim Myers 20
Matthew 19:24

Cal Keegan 17
Yeah, Jesus said suffer the little children to come unto me, not get these people away from me, they're harshing my vibe.
lynx318 3
Normally scripture quotes bug me, but that one to make the point stand out is brilliant. Thumbs up.
"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction." - 1 Timothy 6:9
kbraniff 9
Heck he had a demon in himself! When surprised by the reporter the demon just popped through his eyes!

All pastors should pay taxes!!! There was a time, but no more! These charlatans think they’re beyond that, I say bull - they hide behind their congregation and fleece the flock! Waiting for there numbers to go up for the cha-Ching and repackage the same sermons after three years!
kbraniff 2
Correction: “Their numbers” not there numbers!
siriusloon 16
What he's basically done is wave to the IRS and say "audit me" and to the FBI and say "investigate me for fraud". If you donate to churches and so-called churches and say that "this is money for Bibles for homeless people", by law they either have to spend it on that or return your money. If they put it towards yet another private jet or another mansion or another Rolls-Royce, they're breaking the law. This was what finished off Jim and Tammy Faye Baker of the PTL Club many years ago. (Jimmy banging his secretary didn't help.) If (ha!) Copeland is diverting donations to other purposes and/or skimming from the proverbial collection plate, his bizarre interview has just attracted attention that he will soon regret. Makes my day. :-)
breezyjr 2
Most of the time they don't ask for donations for specific things, just for this reason... I belong to a church, and occasionally you will see them asking for donations for certain things around the church, like recently an upgrade to the organ... But, most times we just donate a $ amount, and there isn't any specificity to it...
kbraniff 1
Next Duplantis, Creflo Dollar, TD Jakes, Joel Olsteen, etc.
This guy is cast from the same mold that made PT Barnum.
And Donald Trump
Greg S 8
What's funny is that the Kenneth Copelands of the world are all secret atheists: they surely don't believe they'll ever have to answer in the next world for defrauding the gullible in this.
On tv, Jimmy Swaggart was asking people to send him their beer money.I feel bad for people that subscribe to these charlatans. If there's a hell, they're going there for sure.
Copland needs a well placed Smite in the form of a bolt of lightning or a dropped piano
How about an ACME safe?
lynx318 2
Acme anvil. Wile E. Coyotland???
bpanther 7
I'm a bit surprised that he didn't claim the jets were one each for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
lynx318 2
Ba-Dum-Tss :)
Ah Yes, Like the words in the song that Hank Williams Jr sings about these evangelists " They tell you to send your money to God, but they give you their address".
What would Jesus fly?
What a pompous ass
I had to throw up after listening to this lying con man who steals from the poor with a smile...
Hm, would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?
btweston 15
Man. I need to start lying to people.
That would rank Graham as one of America’s eight richest pastors, reported. Graham’s estimated $25 million net worth is equal to that of Rick Warren, but lower than pastors such as Joel Osteen ($40 million) and Kenneth Copeland ($760 million).

Forbes has reported that two nonprofits associated with Billy Graham are among the biggest charities in the U.S. Samaritan’s Purse posted revenues of $635 million in 2016, while the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association had $101 million in revenues in 2010. Both organizations are now run by Billy Graham’s son William Franklin Graham III, who is paid well for his leadership roles. Better known as Franklin Graham, he received a whopping total of $1.2 million in 2008 and $880,000 in compensation in 2014 for running the two charities, according to the Charlotte Observer.
This type of person knows there is nothing beyond their current level of awareness, so they are making hay while the sun shines without a care for their future. The TV interviewer should have grabbed the clown by the finger he was waving in her face and bent sideways.
Another con man:
Genesis’ 1990s ‘Jesus He Knows Me’ satire comes true....
I understand he is a furoughed American Pilot from way back too so maybe "god" gave him the talent to fly and spread the "word" flying all those expensive airplanes...grin
The man and his sheep like followers have a screw loose, or don't have screws at all to get loose. This is a man who preaches against vaccination....perhaps he doesn't want to get measles on a 737 with the rabble that follow him? Me thinks that could be the real need for private planes in his eyes....;-)
A pox upon their houses.
Copeland was a furloughed American pilot,,,,turn evangelist----that a great gig living on one of the nicest properties in Fort Worth on Eagle Mountain Lake with your own airport.

A pilots dream come true
Just another 3 dollar bill showing what you can get away with by taking care of your local politician.
mariofer 3
I feel the same way. Miami traffic is too evil and traumatic for me. I'm going to request helo transfers to and from work from my employer. I'll post pictures.....
N204TA 3
How's he supposed to justify that nice private airport without a few nice jets?
It always amazes me how gullible Americans are to keep feeding these people, totally unbelievable.
A parasite with 3 planes. Religion as the basis of all problems.
I saw the interview a young lady had with him, and pressed him for the details of why he needed these airplanes, and with all due respect, this guy is a WHACK JOB!!
When I think of the poor folks that are gullible enough to fall for his rhetoric, it helps me to understand how the current occupant of the White House landed there.
“There’s one born every minute.”
Actually, the devil made him do it!
Remind me of the TV preacher who said God said he had to have a G650. Maybe he had a point. With a service ceiling of FL51000 that's about as close to heaven as you're going to get! Cash your social security retirement people and send it to me. LOL
Maybe the 'demon' on the plane is him.
This dude's compound (as I call it) it less than 2 miles from my home. He's got several business jets and helicopters over there. Owns thousands of acres of land next to Eagle Mountain lake. The tele - evangelist business must be good. He's been doing it for over 30 years.
I would like to talk to Copeland and see if he would loan me his congregation for a while, I have a plan for a nice Beach home I would like to build.
Coalora 2
"His jet is getting old."
The demon lives inside him so best he flyes in his own planes
Archaeologists Uncover Jesus's Gulfstream Jet - Babylon Bee
lynx318 3
"In 2016 he called flying commercial getting in 'a long tube with demons'
The 82-year-old claims he wasn't talking about the people on planes
But he said watching someone get dragged off a plane made him want to punch"

In other words it's not about the people, just the unwashed masses. Can't see forest for the trees.
For the first one million people who send me a dollar, I will send you my new book, on how to become a millionaire.... handling/shipping cost not included.

How did Clint Eastwood put it...he ain't my brother so preacher man you put them up.
Billy Graham had an air conditioned dog house for his dog plus major luxuries. They'll never change. It's like the bible is an Art Of The Deal story telling book for them. On the crooked side having an air service company separate from the church that takes money out of the church to put it back into his holdings and use then I'd think its an easy bust.
Why is this here? We get it, he's a hypocritical nutjob douchebag. This has almost nothing to do with aviation. And a side note that Christians don't condone this behavior and are not this guy. Real churches are doing incredible work in this world. And they've doing it on a shoe string budget while paying their own organization hardly anything.
The REAL question is why are YOU here... the headline of the post was exceedingly clear, if you didn’t want to read and/or comment on the religious hucksters buying aircraft, then move along.

There are far better YouTube videos on aviation that are FAR more educational and informational than ANYTHING you are going to read on this forum! You clearly are not a critical thinker, actually my adding "critical" was overly generous.
THIS is why the GOP wants to make churches able to contribute and support politicians, and political parties. They are atracked to all piles of money, especially piles of money from people that want power. It's quid pro quo. Give us money, insure our longevity in office, and we give you power, a theology in America.

These frauds have GOBS of money! Cold hard cash, and they have, collectively, billions of wide eyed and slack jawed followers willing to give away their last $20 to a lying stealing fraud claiming they are going to heaven, and vote for whomever they say.

Prostitution isn't the 'oldest profession', it's religious frauds controlling the people. The sheeple.

One 'pastor' in northern Michigan, whose wife drives around in a gold edition Cadillac, declared to his flock of idiots that God spoke to him, and told him that he needs a new jet airplane to help 'spread the word'. So he did the old 'God is threatening to kill' me ploy, and sure enough, his 'flock' suffered and scrimped enough to get him his private jet. In an area with record poverty. I heard people were mortgaging their homes to supply him with money. Selling their furniture, and doing without medication and food.

Being a preacher is a hell of a racket...

I'm sure Jesus agrees with this.
Exactly Robert, you can't fix or prevent sheeple.

Most people are uneducated, weak, lost souls trying to "find reasons" for their inadequacies, which of course IS religion!
Can't leave out sharpton and jackson!
Religion is the root of all evil.

kbraniff 1

They all need to be humbled rescind the non profit status!
Any more GulfstreamV out there for $3mm?
God does indeed work in mysterious ways ......
Just googled his net worth. 760 MILLION!
And this is why I do not believe in religions or churches. They do not pay any taxes and the blood sucking ministers get rich TAX FREE. Lets tax the hell out of them. If we do this the fake churches will disappear as the tax break will not be there any longer to support them.
Hey, good for him. If he can fine thousands of idiots to fund his lifestyle then good for him!
lynx318 5
Probably promotes outside Trump rallies, plenty of gullibles at those....just saying.
Makes me mad haw many gullible (idiots) people are exploted and TAX FREE. REALLY makes me think about starting a TAX FREE religion. JUST TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. Nothing else.
It is the suckers living in their single wides that fund this hypocrite. Get a brain people.
when much is given much is required. the word of GOD never goes out void. i watch Pastor Copland for many years and his preaching help me in my faith and tough me how to fight the spiritual world. like Pastor Swaggard and others. if anyone is reading the BIBLE you will find that the best of the best failed, or where the weakest of the bunch or the least. i will not judge Pastor Copeland due to i am a sinner just like him saved by grace. when the telephone pole is taken out of our eyes we can see better. GOD new Pastor Copeland before he was in his mother's womb. HE knows where he is. you all in the ministry remember love one another that is how others now we belong to JESUS. I love you all no matter what you do.
thanks oh Lord!!
for stepping away from the bad apples, attentively, commercial pilots ðð
Copeland is correct about one thing. Some commercial PAX behave as though they were demonically possessed.

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Yes really... because if hypocrisy could fly, this guy wouldn't need a jet.
Mark 10:11-12 — “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”

Copeland has been divorced twice.

Poor Kenny is only #1 on the list of richest pastors in America.

In 2009, Copeland's $3.6 million jet was denied tax-exempt status, opening up a possible investigation into the church's expenses; Copeland failed to disclose the salaries of his directors. In 2008 the ministry stated it owned five airplanes, one of which is valued at $17.5 million. Copeland's ministry bought a multi-million Gulfstream V jet airplane and Copeland thanked his followers and Jesus for buying it when it was delivered at the Fort Worth airstrip, wearing a pilot jacket and sunglasses. The jet was bought from filmmaker and businessman Tyler Perry. Now the church is asking another $17 to $19.5 million for the building of a hangar, upgrading the runway, and maintenance.
For Kenneth Copeland, it's all about money and things. If God ever decides to deal with him on his ministry, watch out.
He didn’t say 3 jets. He said 3 planes. And that other ministers use them. At least state the facts of your going to put all caps on words.
lynx318 2
Betting he is the sole user of the Gulfstream, 'other' ministers only get use of the Citations. By the way it is 3 jets, the other two are a 750 Citation X and 550 Citation Bravo.

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siriusloon 11
What part of him owning three business jets and talking about airlines is not "aviation-related" in your exalted opinion, Pete? If you didn't want to read the article, then don't read it. You don't decide for the forum what is an acceptable topic here. You just decide what YOU read, not anyone else.
Agree! Religion = Fake News.
linbb -3
How true you know do as I say not as I do they need to pay there way as those who go often look down at those who don't.
What an absolutely, stupid, asinine statement.

