Energy Work and Astral Projection







Our Other Bodies

Deus made a post on the Astral Viewers today asking an amazing question about what happens to our “metaphyiscal” bodies when we’re no longer using them. I’ll copy his post here:

So i had this idea swirling around my head for a while now. And i hope i won’t sound totally insane for telling it. I will try to explain it the best i can.

So, what i was thinking is actually what happens to our “metaphysical” body when we stop dreaming, LD, AP and the sort. We can have the impression of being sucked in our physical bodies, or that we just simply wake up. I find it a bit hard to believe since our realities (RTZ and the other phases of perception) are somehow interlaced and don’t have a pyramidal structure. And i don’t believe anymore that we are “getting out of the body” but we simply switch our perception.

In my opinion we simply experience a form of death. Our metaphysical bodies dissolve and we come back to our primary reality i.e. the physical. Our physical bodies will dissolve/die one day too and our conciousness will permanently be transfered into a metaphysical body. So, the thing we percieve as awakening could be just the result of death. Only when we wake up from a dream we actually realise that we were dreaming all along (except from lucid dreams). I believe we temporarily “project” into another body which is destined to perish once we switch focus. And that will happen to us once we die.
We simply chage focus and this life will become a long and strange projection. What seems real now, will become the dream later.

I don’t know, i just wanted to put it out in the open. I’d love to know what you guys think about it.

It got me thinking about a post I made on the Astral Pulse regarding a question very similar.

Think of it this way… *You* can’t die.
Each time you project Etherically, Astrally or whatever… you create a body to interact with the environment for that specific journey. You then focus your conscious awareness into that body and control it. <— SOUND FAMILIAR?

It’s exactly how you operate here on the physical.
A body was created for you to interact with this physical environment.
Since this is your primary focus, you still need this body even if you switch your focus of awareness.

When you create a body for the etheric or astral… after you’re done with that body, it’s destroyed.
The same happens here. Once you’re done with this physical body, it ceases to operate.

*IT* dies…
*YOU* do not.

Now that I’ve actually put a bit more thought into it, I don’t actually believe we have other “bodies” per se, what we experience when in the non-physical is just an expectation of a body.

What we “see” when we’re focused into other realities is just a projection of our self-image. This “image” is completely a “human” need, it makes sense to our conscious mind that if we’re “somewhere” we must have a “body” to be “in” (wow that was a lot of quotes LOL).  To expand on this, many people actually report that, as you spend more and more time ‘out’, you begin to slowly lose this “human-self-image” and begin to take on a more “consciousness” form… whatever that may be.

So, what happens to this “human-self-image” or “consciousness” form when you come back to your primary focus? Well… nothing.  Cause it never truly existed to begin with… yet, it also always exists too, because we exist across the entire consciousness continuum simultaneously.

I guess the question then becomes, does consciousness REQUIRE a vessel for which to work in a non-physical environment?
We know that we require a physical body to interact with this physical, Focus 1 oC reality… but I feel that’s because of the particular ‘physics’ programmed into this reality.  In the non-physical, these physics do not exist…

I guess one could say that shifting/phasing your focus between realities is a “form of death”.  One could also say that “dreaming”, too, is a form of death we experience each and every time we fall asleep. The only difference between that and what we humans call “death” is that your primary focus will have shifted to another reality permanently.

Phasing Method – Don’t Open Your Eyes When You Wake

SpiritualShawn on the Astral Viewers posted an interesting question about keeping your eyes shut when you wake up to help you to project.

Ok so I want to practice waking up in the morning without opening my eyes or moving? How can I do this? It seems like in the mornings I usually find myself rolling around while waking up or my eyes are already open by the time I realize im awake.

I know If I wake myself up super early and induce a lucid dream I should be able to gently bring myself back to physical conscious (waking up) without moving much because I am already aware in the dream. Other than that I really don’t know how to go about doing this as after waking up in the morning would seem like a practical time for a conscious exit, (for me atleast).

Any tips?

I don’t have any direct tips, but it did remind me of the ONE time I managed to do this… and I’ll recount it here in hopes it has something that might help someone do the same.

So, the one time I managed to do this I was already in a lucid dream (the LD was me in this room full of toilets and urinals… I know, strange LOL) and I began to feel that usual feeling of ‘waking up’. My vision went to black and I felt the shift… I knew I was back in the physical, lying in my bed, and it happened so smoothly that I didn’t bother to open my eyes. I figured I’d go back to sleep, and within what felt like one minute I slipped back into my lucid dream at the exact point I had left, in the toilet-filled room. A couple minutes into this lucid dream, I, again, felt myself waking up… I kept my eyes closed for that waking as well.

I kept doing this over and over… four times, each time I woke up faster and faster. The fifth time, I got into the lucid dream and I immediately began waking up. I initiated my spinning thing to ground and keep myself within the lucid dream… but it didn’t work and had a secondary effect of causing me to have a classic OBE experience where I felt my arms float up and the rest of me follow.  I opened my eyes and I was floating down towards the foot of my bed.  This lasted about 10 seconds, when I came back to the physical.

So that’s the only experience I can remember where I managed to not open my eyes upon waking up.

Many times I’ve read stories of people doing this exact thing to project… well, all I can say is that it does work IF you can remember to not open your eyes when you wake.  For me, it was a matter of already being lucid in the dream and sensing when I was waking so I could prepare myself to do it.

Hopefully this helps someone.  🙂

Bedeekin’s Method




Bedeekin’s Method:





The majority of the ‘wealth’ of knowledge that one may have acquired by trawling through the pile of information at hand, is as useful as a chocolate fireguard and should be cast off so that one can start afresh and learn from a first hand perspective. I had the advantage of self learning without any outside influences such as the internet and only a few books at hand that I mainly used as a checklist of affirmation that I wasn’t weird. If you want to enter such a stage, you might want to lie down on a king coil mattress and practice for a while. 

Unlearn what you think you have learned.














There are two very different types of OOBE.







For example:




Two things to note:






*any limb or body twitches


*subtle localized buzzing in your muscles or fingertips


*the position of your head








* a sudden rush of relaxation


* instinctive knowing that you are in the state.




Astral Projection





* Do not ‘imagine’ yourself doing it.

* Just do it.

* Don’t think about it.

* just do it.

* The movement of your phantom limbs is instinctual.





failure to stay within the state will transpire if:


* Thinking about how the sensations feel.



* Merely imagining movement.

Success at staying within the state will transpire if:

* you instantly acknowledge that the rope is there.

* you get on with it.

* You keep moving.

* You take it for granted that you are doing it.


Anchoring yourself in the ‘Astral’ body and Environment.



Be blatant and have intent

touch your surroundings

touch yourself, like your hands, your face etc

investigate everything



Stay still



think of your physical body

panic if you think you are losing clarity

Remember – thought and intent controls environment and actions.
