Tuesday, December 20, 2011












c u n d gulag said...


My question is, what's in it for Jeb?

The boy and his daddy still have Presidential aspirations for him, most likely in 2016, so why would he run on the AE ticket next year, and risk losing a chance at the Republican top spot in 2016?

I mean, if he swings the '12 election to the Republicans, he'll have to put his aspirations on hold until at least 2020, when he'll be 67 - not old, but no spring chicken.
And what if, as I would expect, having another 4-8 years of Republican rule totally flushes this country down the shitter, completing his brother's, father's, and Uncle's Ronnie's and Dick's work?
Or, will the voting system be so jiggered to stop anyone non-Conservative from voting, that it won't make any difference, and Jeb can rule until one of the younger Bush's is deemed ready to take over?
Kind of like North Korea, no?

So, what's in it for Jeb to head the AE ticket in 2012?

If someone can answer that, then I think this is certainly a possibility worth worrying about.

Until then, I've got enough to worry about...

Stephen Harding said...

cund gulag: You're probably right on Jeb, especially if Romney wins the Primary.
The problem is, if this organization gets a viable ticket together and that ticket wins just one state in the election, Americans Elect can be a kingmaker in a close presidential election.

If there are three tickets and none gets a majority of electoral votes, then Americans Elect will hold a third election in December and they will be able to decide who to give their delegates to--Obama or Romney. Moreover there's such shadiness wrt to their election process that their Board will probably be the one to decide who gets the votes. And who is on their board? Who the hell knows?

c u n d gulag said...

FYI - Here is the always great Charles Pierce on Jeb yesterday:


Ten Bears said...

Man-o-man, I've got to start keeping better track of where I "say" these things: It has been my... anticipation, that Jeb would be in this for over a year now. I may even have suggested so here. I still think there is a possibility of a brokered convention, though the primary laws on this are vague and contradictory, or even a "rogue" convention - "screw these bozos, we nominate..." Though again, the laws on this are vague and contradictory, which is not surprising considering there are some fifty of them.

And I don't think the "elder statesman"/ young buck, i.e. Bush/Cheney, combination will fly again. Lieberman, Bayh, Ben Nelson and Zell Miller have not only proven themselves to be the epitome of "DINO", which doesn't really matter as a third party candidate, but are the face of the Democrats' sell-out to the corporations, Zionists and international bankers. The last few die-hard holdouts who even we mid-fiftyish types think should have retired a long time ago. If either the repubs or the AE runs Jeb it'll be to appeal to the younger wing of the base, and it just won't with a crazy grand-uncle on the ticket.

That said, I don't think he can beat Obama.

Dark Avenger said...

I was wondering who would have the resources to spend on a poll in New Hampshire this close to the election, and of course, AE would be able to spend that kind of dough.

Having Jeb Bush would be a 'savior' to all the Third Way traitors who would prefer a return to the Gilded Age.

Greg said...

I once was convinced Jeb would be content waiting for '16. But now I figure he's taken note of how Christie and Rubio and maybe one or two others are well-positioned to be "the new breed" in '16 (with him as old news), and I wouldn't be surprised if he was willing to throw himself into the mix somehow this year. If nothing else, he can see himself as the one who rescued the GOP from any long-term "Clown Car" damage -- while still retaining a chance to win outright, if the economy remains sluggish -- or as mentioned upthread, he can wield real leverage as a "kingmaker" on a 3rd Party ticket. It must all be quite tempting to his patented Bush ego.