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is not china or russia. it's some private actor or one of these terrorist states that get this access and as yet they do not seem to have the capabilities of the big powers. >> one of the things that changed the story since august when the legislation failed is the iranian activity-- i think the iranians-- you know, the chinese-- some chinese officials once said to me, "you don't have to worry about us disrupting wall street because we own it. so why would we do that?" fair point. same for the russians. but the iranians are a little crazier, and i think you're seeing a shift in industry as they think about we're facing pup more dynamic opponent. there's been another development, too, which both n.s.a., the national security agency, and their australian counter-parts have identified basic measures that really put us at risk so we can new say, "here's what you need to do to make us safer." the question is how do you get companies to go along and that's going to be a debate. >> schieffer: let's go around the table start with you jane. what do we need to do? >> on cyber? i think the counc

hir seem as. that's a nasty bit of business. russia got clobbered one other time when a rock about 330 feet across exploded, unleashed a 30-megaton blast. so these things do happen. >> schieffer: what is the likelihood of something like that happening gaining? we have a pretty good idea of what's out there but not 100% idea of what's out there. >> that's absolutely true. the likelihood of one of the rocks that just passed by we have one of them about every 40 years and it hits the ground every 1200 years. even though that's a love human lifetimes, it's something we want to avoid. we know in the 100 to 150-foot range there are a million such objects out there. nasa is doing a very good job cataloging all the ones they can, but so far they've been able to find just about 10,000 of them. so we're a little ways away from having the complete inventory. >> schieffer: well, let me just ask you this question-- is there something the government ought to be doing or science ought to be doing that it's not doing? >> actually, believe it or not we are handling this one well. in 1995, nasa authoriz

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