It seems silly to have to do but since the 'Librarians Against Bush' folk have a site up I figured people who came across it might decide to type in 'Librarians For Bush' to see if there actually were any. Its just something simple, maybe I'll put a messageboard on it, we'll see.


Kind of like "separation of church &amp; state"

Yeah, can't seem to separate the radicals among us from just being "librarians"... but instead, they have to be "Librarians against Bush"!!

Good job Greg.

BTW, I assume everyone understands the historical significance of the "separation of church & state" statement. It ISN'T in the constitution, and was originally used by Thomas Jefferson to argue against the nation adopting one specific religious preference... see http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detai l.php?ResourceID=9


Re:Kind of like "separation of church &amp; state"

Great choice of citation!" WallBuilders is an organization dedicated to the restoration of the constitutional, moral, and religious foundation on which America was built"That's just the kind of place to find good unbiased information on church/state issues!I don't need to point out my sarcasm here do I?Here's One that says the exact opposite. Debating what the founding fathers wanted is pretty much pointless because anyone can find enough to support their position."Jefferson realized that a full separation of church and state did not exist yet, but he hoped that society would make progress towards that goal."

Re:Kind of like "separation of church &amp; state"


While that may be true, they do have a huge library of original books and documents supporting their statements.

One interesting fact is that while we focus on Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, those two were likely the most secular of the whole lot who wrote the Declaration. A large number of the group were clergy...

Additionally, there was nothing in the Constitution preventing a state from have an "authorized" religion.

the â€œseparationâ€? phrase so frequently invoked today was rarely mentioned by any of the Founders; and even Jeffersonâ€™s explanation of his phrase is diametrically opposed to the manner in which courts apply it today. â€œSeparation of church and stateâ€? currently means almost exactly the opposite of what it originally meant.

Here's another original document quote:

Jefferson's Reply


Washington, January 1, 1802




* A cite for this letter could read:

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