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User avatar #745 - geranemo **User deleted account** (01/20/2013) [-]
From the point of view from a soldier. I am watching the fights for gun control happen in my country. I am a gun owner of an AR10. The .308 version of the AR15. It is my new hunting rifle and fun shooter, I also own a 410 judge, a .22 soon to be 2 .22s and a 12 gauge shotgun. I have made guns my hobby. Spending a day on thee range or out in the woods looking for that first animal is the best time. Guns do not need to be regulated because a gun has never hopped off a table, loaded itself and walked over to someone and killed them. a gun is a tool, designed to make our lives easier and safer. much like a screwdriver or a knife. they all have a purpose. guns are not the problem, the people are, a few people noticing of others, getting to know your neighbor would help mitigate these issues. we have become as a society anti social and have been trained to fear our neighbors. do not let the murders of one man blind us fro the real problem. it isn't the tool that does the damage but the one who holds it.
#766 to #745 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
"Guns do not need to be regulated"......... Really? They don't need to be regulated at all?
#765 to #745 - countsandpaper (01/20/2013) [-]
But clearly you people can't handle the people.
If you take away the tool, **** wouldn't happen.
User avatar #788 to #765 - thatguywhohasbacon (01/20/2013) [-]
If you wanted to stop people building houses what do you do? Take away the hammer or lock up the people trying to build houses?
User avatar #769 to #765 - tankeruber (01/20/2013) [-]
Black Market.

Y'know, illegal guns. Refer to comment number 768.
#784 to #769 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
where is this black market that pro gun retards talk about? 'you can get hurr durr if you really want hurr durr legal or not' ******** is stupid as **** , you think that sandy hill nut job knows a mob boss personally who is giving him the hook up on a rifle? 'the drugs are hurr durr but we still hurr durr' doesnt hold weight either because anyone can grow drugs and importing is easy. you really think they will be some g'd up dbag selling ak's on the street corner? ******* retarded
User avatar #814 to #784 - bitchitroll (01/20/2013) [-]
i can go in my garage and build a full auto weapon and sell it to somebody. i could go get some guns that arent in my name and sell them. black market is easy **** to understand and use.
#861 to #814 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
Yes, so we should start mass producing them and selling them at Wal Mart.
I can make meth in my basement, we should legalize that, then, too.
User avatar #780 to #769 - gladiuss (01/20/2013) [-]
Fool! Trying to convince the anti-gun lobby with FACTS is like trying to convince a christian there is no god. They have FAITH. Their leaders TELL them what is true. They do nod need your 'sense' or 'logic'. Take away all the legal guns and gun violence will end! Lol!!
User avatar #799 to #780 - cheeselol (01/20/2013) [-]
Don't be ignorant, both sides have valid points.

your statement describes you precisely.
User avatar #887 to #799 - gladiuss (01/20/2013) [-]
I disagree,sir. In an agreeable way. ;)
#804 to #799 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
compare us to any other of the top 20 countries by living standards, we massively outnumber their murder per capita. hoping it will work out when it has failed in every country ever is dumb. only one side has valid points. you want to keep guns? deal with the death that comes with it
User avatar #886 to #804 - gladiuss (01/20/2013) [-]
You have stats and a source for those numbers? I'm ready to examine proof from either side. Anyone can spit out fake stats and shout, "see?"
#754 to #745 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
I see your point, but I don't agree with you. If people had not got the tools there would be no killings, or at least not of the same magnitude. Besides I seriously doubt that guns make our lives easier and safer. Safer!? I mean come on, how did you come to this conclusion?
User avatar #768 to #754 - tankeruber (01/20/2013) [-]
Try going on a killing spree with a gun, when everyone else has guns, or vs everyone with knives. Witch will last longer?

>implying we can't get guns illegally

When has a registered and legally owned gun been used to kill someone who is not an imminent threat to your safety, health and life?
#775 to #768 - countsandpaper (01/20/2013) [-]
That doesn't really solve the problem :P
User avatar #786 to #775 - tankeruber (01/20/2013) [-]
What problem? If someone tried to kill someone somewhere, he will most likely be gunned down by 5 other people with guns before he could do anything. While if they had nothing, they will also proboably be shot down. Then the remaining 6 (5) people can tell what happened, if we have video-tapes, even better. Boom, someone who would proboably go off to kill more people and then take his life using an illegal gun will be stopped by sane people with legal guns. You can't stop the black market by taking away legal guns. It only boosts the Black Market, since people whose gun's got confiscated will now look to the Black Market to get that AR-15 or some other gun back, boosting the illegal gun market, witch is already booming because of the mafia, gang wars (crip's n blood's) and so on.
#824 to #786 - countsandpaper (01/20/2013) [-]
THE PROBLEM is the person has easy access to guns in the first place.
User avatar #888 to #824 - gladiuss (01/20/2013) [-]
No. The problem is, the 5 people with guns that killed this hypothetical shooter, also killed or injured at LEAST one innocent bystander. Probably significantly more, but that's laboring the point.
User avatar #839 to #824 - tankeruber (01/20/2013) [-]
So stop the Black Market? Impossible.
User avatar #756 to #754 - bitchitroll (01/20/2013) [-]
if you are in the woods and attacked by a bear what is the safer tool to have, a gun or a knife?
#807 to #756 - kabala (01/20/2013) [-]
Bears have poor eyes, so they can be spooked off fairly easily as long as you aren't ******** in their home or fondling their balls. Bears don't like their balls fondled you sick **** .
#791 to #756 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
dont go in the ******* woods you retard
User avatar #797 to #791 - xzynth (01/20/2013) [-]
exactly, don't go looking for bears if you don't have the tool to kill it.
User avatar #796 to #791 - bitchitroll (01/20/2013) [-]
youre right i should never go into a quiet peaceful place where i can be alone away from all the noise of the city and retards yelling swag and yolo. its just so terrible in the woods. from this day on when i want to get away from everyone i will go into town and sit on a bench and listen to all the "music" screaming ***** bitches weed and money at me
User avatar #800 to #796 - xzynth (01/20/2013) [-]
if you need a gun to be safe in the us, then i would say the us have gotten really ****

I mean, you can be safe without a gun in most europeen countries.
If you need a gun to be safe, then your country is as safe as ******* Kongo
User avatar #805 to #800 - bitchitroll (01/20/2013) [-]
i dont have guns to keep me safe EXCEPT for when im working on the farm and i know i will be out in the fields until 3am when coyotes will be out. bears are slowly moving into my area and a few have been sighted on the edge of the county. 1 shot into a tree when i hear coyotes coming close is enough to scare em off for a few hours so i can finish what im doing.
User avatar #817 to #805 - xzynth (01/20/2013) [-]
but you don't need a assult rifle for that, you can even use blanks in a pistol. Am I not right?
User avatar #820 to #817 - bitchitroll (01/20/2013) [-]
e them off yes but what about spring and summer when pest are over populated? i need to kill off a few and i dont want to keep reloading. hi cap mag in an AR will do just fine and i wont have to go back out the next day to keep thinning them out
User avatar #776 to #756 - karvarausku (01/20/2013) [-]
I'm gonna use fork...
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