

(118 Posts)
nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 06:35:10

DSIL is making me feel homicidal.







Alternatively, am I being unreasonable...
is it only irritating me because i'm pregnant?,


Perhaps she doesn't realise how loud it is.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 06:41:05


LovesBeingOnHoliday Mon 26-Aug-13 06:43:05


Iheartcrunchiebars Mon 26-Aug-13 06:46:25


1. I make ear plugs to drown out the noise

2. Never ever let her stay again.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 06:46:36

Never again.



To not allow me a night's sleep in between is cruel.


nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 06:52:28


AndThatsWhatIThinkOfYou Mon 26-Aug-13 06:55:02

tell her

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 06:57:50

i have.


Mogz Mon 26-Aug-13 07:00:11


Mumzy Mon 26-Aug-13 07:01:07


nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:02:45


LittleMissGerardButlerfan Mon 26-Aug-13 07:04:35



Deathbyladybirds Mon 26-Aug-13 07:05:29


SPBisResisting Mon 26-Aug-13 07:06:27

You're pregnant?!
Congratulations grin
When are you due?

Tittypulumpcious Mon 26-Aug-13 07:08:21


nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:09:34




nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:10:38

A pleasant surprise.

SPBisResisting Mon 26-Aug-13 07:12:34


CaptainSweatPants Mon 26-Aug-13 07:13:05

Can't you stuff cotton wool in your ears?!

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:16:18


Ifancyashandy Mon 26-Aug-13 07:17:55


PavlovtheCat Mon 26-Aug-13 07:19:13


nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:20:47

Thanks, Feeling the love Pav and SPB.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:22:22


Congratulations! grin smile

Tell her to see a doctor. Is she very overweight? This can affect snoring.
Tell her to lose weight. Tell her she is not welcome back until she has lost a few stones, and then is fit enough to help you with chores.

Just saw your last post.

If she does that tell her that it is nice that she sleeps well, but you have barely slept a wink while she is visiting, and is now knackered. Tell her what chores need doing while you nap, and ask her when she is living.

Nagoo Mon 26-Aug-13 07:27:31

When she gets up, go to bed.

Congratulations thanks

Ilovemyself Mon 26-Aug-13 07:27:41

ifancyashandy. That's what I was going to say.

I snore, and I know how annoying it is for my wife. I have tried ways to reduce or stop it. I know I really need to lose ( a lot of) weight and that will help.

Sometimes the "fake" embarrassment or joking really is the fact they are ashamed of what it does.

But the fact she doesn't help is not on.

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 26-Aug-13 07:27:58

Glare at her murderously all day. It will confuse her and make you feel better.

On another note, have you talked to the doc about the anti-histamines? I'm pg and mine said I should be ok to take Loratadine.

MousyMouse Mon 26-Aug-13 07:28:15

my df snores but usually wears a madk at night (sleep apnoea). last visit he forgot.
I swear the whole house vibrated with the noise!
worse is if it's not regular, but like
chrrr ___________CHRRRRRRRRR chrr chrr________CHRRRRRRRRRR (_= breaks in breathing)

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:29:11

smile I really didn't mean this thread to be an announcement but thanks everyone.

yes, very overweight. I am not going to tell her to lose weight, her mother does that weekly. and if she tells me she's a slow eater and that's why she takes so long with her dinner one more time, I'm going to point out that her portion is three times the size of anyone elses.

she is fit enough to help with chores! she obviously doesn't see the need as she's on holiday!

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:34:32

yes, i normally take loratadine and GP advised I stop taking it. I googled yesterday in desperation only to discover that loratadine is the recommended one in pregnancy. will have to chase her up on that.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:36:14

my husband is superfit and a racing snake. he still snores a bit but this has put it into a whole new perspective.

Ifancyashandy Mon 26-Aug-13 07:38:22

Yup, losing weight helps. Lost 4 stone (stealth boast) and it improved hugely. But I still snore...

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:41:53

DMIL is visiting next week and she snores too. I really need to get some earplugs.

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 26-Aug-13 07:47:28

OP my initial info on Loratadine came from an NHS website, so there should be something "official" to show doc if he/she disputes and suggests you've been badly advised by Dr Google.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:49:31

yes, it was the NHS choices website I read it on.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:52:43

STILL snoring!

FreeWee Mon 26-Aug-13 07:55:30

Best Ear Plugs EVER

I can't bear breathing never mind snoring so you have my sympathy. One more night to go. One more night to go. One more night to go. Repeat until you feel better!

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 26-Aug-13 07:56:13

Oh dear. This would be giving me THE RAGE. I think everyone (without exception) needs to go out for the day, all day to give you time to recuperate.

PavlovtheCat Mon 26-Aug-13 07:57:42

When I used to go out til the early hours dancing and drinking, my mother used to put The Archers on really loudly at around this time of the morning, and hoover right outside my bedroom door. It's got to be around that time now? If not the Archers, something like Queens of the Stone Age would be my choice, to lift my spirits.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 07:58:21

thanks free wee.

Dackyduddles Mon 26-Aug-13 07:58:27

When I was preg I taped dh to prove how loud he was. iPhones are fab.

Yanbu at all. This would make me murderous. I'm up several times in the night for a wee baby bouncing on my bladder so never get a full nights sleep so if I can't sleep while I'm in bed I get cross. Really cross. Go make some noise outside her bedroom and wake her up.

Tabby1963 Mon 26-Aug-13 08:06:14

I snore too sad and it became a problem when I put on weight. My husband told me he thought I had apnea and I bought him earplugs and started to deal with my eating habits.

You SIL may be extremely embarrassed (I know I am) but laughing it off. You must tell her honestly that it won't be possible for her to stay again (give her a list of local hotels/b&bs) because it is keeping you awake and making you unwell. Suggest she go along to see her GP for a health check. Be sympathetic.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 08:08:25

had radio 4 on the telly, very soothing. I trust R4. They wouldn't shirk any jobs if they came round. R1 presenters on the other hand would come round to be sick on my carpet.

...I haven't even mentioned the laziest 17year old neice.

DH and DSIL failed to purchase a meal during the day and were staring into the fridge talking about takeaway. Bearing in mind I work full time I find myself preparing a batch of a spur of the moment goulash type dinner with chicken, sausage and peppers. 17 year old wants baked potato instead. (even my 8 and 6 years olds can cope with some chicken and rice with a mystery sauce FFS). I ask her to sort out her own potato..."I don't know how."

What???? Just WHAT???

I said, well go and ask your mother what to do and come back and do it.


MinnieBar Mon 26-Aug-13 08:09:43

1. Put loud music on (I suggest The Carpenters)
2. Turn it off when you hear signs of life.
3. When she comes down, say 'I'm afraid I slept terribly badly last night, so I'm going back to bed now. You know where everything is don't you? Oh, and would you mind washing up afterwards, thanks ever so.'
4. Go back to bed and read/sleep/MN/whatever, ignoring your cheeky 'guests'.
5. Eat cake when they've gone.

I'm still hayfevery btw. I thought it would have all gone by now but NO. Bah.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 08:10:20

She will not be able to stay here again. I'm sure last year she stayed in a B&B with DMIL. top plan!

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 08:15:34

no fucking joke, she's awake and smiling. incredulous. I'm off to bed. good night friends.

BasilBabyEater Mon 26-Aug-13 08:22:06

There was a woman on R4 the other day who haso developed exercises ppl can do to reduce their snoring but I can't remember her website...

JakeBullet Mon 26-Aug-13 08:22:24

Tell her to visit her GP, sound like she has sleep apnoea which can be dangerous to her health.....although YOU might currently be more of a danger to her health as she has left you murderous grin

Overweight or not....sleep apnoea affects lots of people, more likely if overweight but no guarentee even if you are NOT overweight.

I have sleep apnoea and sleep with a mask and CPAP machine at night.....I am told I no longer snore.

SkinnybitchWannabe Mon 26-Aug-13 08:26:15

freewee I use those earpligs and I agree they are definitely the best.

yegodsandlittlefishes Mon 26-Aug-13 08:29:10

Sleep well!

SkinnybitchWannabe Mon 26-Aug-13 08:29:16

plugs my oh snores like a pig..always has done.
I kicked him out of my bedroom years ago.
He's now going through texmsting at hospital to see whats wrong.
I think you should find a way to tell her that she might have a sleep disorder..recording her would show her just how loud she is.
Congrats of the pregnancy

SkinnybitchWannabe Mon 26-Aug-13 08:30:09

Omg sorry.. testing

CruCru Mon 26-Aug-13 08:44:47

I once recorded DH snoring and he got quite shirty with me. Hope you have a nice sleep.

christinarossetti Mon 26-Aug-13 08:48:51

Ear plugs are your friend. Available in all large supermarkets open today.

Azultrailer Mon 26-Aug-13 09:04:57

Boots "muffles" wax ear plugs cut out even more noise. My husband snores like a pig in a war.

Rosesarebeautiful Mon 26-Aug-13 09:09:14

Lots of sympathy... My MIL snores so loudly you can hear her throughout the house (when we stay). I've had to move rooms down to her lounge just to get some sleep

But... She has no idea how loudly she snores & I just get laughed at the next day for 'sleeping' on the settee

And, yes, I think it probably is sleep apnoea, but it's very difficult to broach that with her.

TheNaughtySausage Mon 26-Aug-13 10:12:48

Really feel for you OP. But she isn't snoring on purpose. I'm a snorer if I'm very very tired or pissed and it got really, really bad when I was pregnant...

I've lost weight since then and still snore occasionally but nowhere near as bad.

She needs to lose weight and see her gp.

FoxyHarlow123 Mon 26-Aug-13 10:45:46

Not in a million years would I have her stay in my house ever again. Lazy freeloading mare. The snoring is the icing on the cake. Hope you're currently getting some sleep!

Silverfoxballs Mon 26-Aug-13 10:55:02

She sounds like an awful guest all round, just stop cooking and running around after everybody. Your DH should be cooking as they are his relatives and you have had no sleep.

Dawndonnaagain Mon 26-Aug-13 11:03:07


I have a son who snores. He is also seriously overweight and nothing was working. I finally persuaded him to go to the Doctor and for some unknown reason he let me go with him. So, I told Doctor and requested sleep apnoea tests.
Turns out he stops breathing 80 times an hour. At 28 years old and weighing slightly more than his age, the consultant laid it on the line. He is losing weight now, and is under no illusions, if he doesn't lose enough in the time period, he's in for bariatric surgery.

EastwickWitch Mon 26-Aug-13 11:12:46

I feel for you. DH snores & I often plan complicated murders in the middle of the night.
I once woke him up by lifting the duvet back & pouring 2 litres of cold water on him. He woke up shouting then went back to sleep & I had to sleep in a wet bed.
Separate rooms for us & the Boots blue ear plugs, when he's been drinking.

thebody Mon 26-Aug-13 11:33:48

but its good that you get in so well. 😆 I foresee her as god mother and you all holidaying together.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 13:55:39

haha, you do huh? grin

I have now slept. What a fabulous use of a bank holiday!

Am now getting on with my day. Soup to make for my lunches this week and some decluttering to do. I am not entertaining nor passifying any other fucker today. I am going to watch trash on iplayer in my room while i sort through my shoes.

Will pop out later to buy ear plugs too. And will charge up ipod as if the ear plugs fail I will listen to classical musical downstairs all night instead.

One more night to go, one more night to go ohhhhmmmmmmmm.

GhostsInSnow Mon 26-Aug-13 14:24:42

You have my deepest sympathy (as well as my congratulations btw). Dh is a snorer and there is no getting away from it.
I think some people (not on here I add I mean in rl) don't appreciate the effects living with a snorer can have on the partner.

I can be miserable and snappy simply because I'm so bloody tired. He's also as bad because even a snorer can't sleep properly through it.
I've been through every ear plug I can find and most only cover 39db which isnt enough.

My advice, when she's gone go to bed lol

thenightsky Mon 26-Aug-13 14:39:55

I have occasionally woken to find myself strangling DH. That frightened both of us so he went off to the doctor to get sorted. Turned out his nose was full of polyps. He now just snores lightly when he's been on the beer.

Xiaoxiong Mon 26-Aug-13 14:58:44

I snore very lightly when I'm not pregnant.

When I am pregnant I snore like a pneumatic drill.

I asked the MW what I could do about it and she said "er...have the baby!" Apparently it's something to do with general swelling of all soft tissues that's hormonal and very common.

So, congratulations! But look out OP, what goes around might come around grin

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 15:25:42

I am in a foul mood today. Lots of tears.

Have just had tense words in the corner with DH.
I'm saying please have some understanding of how tired I am and how i'm trying to cope on very little sleep so please don't expect me to be sociable. (am currently hiding in my room decluttering).
He's saying, quite rightly, there is nothing he can do but asking that I don't tired myself out more sorting all these boxes.

We really don't need this shit. Am seriously considering cancelling MIL's visit next week.

squoosh Mon 26-Aug-13 15:26:06

My sympathies OP, being kept awake by a snorer is torturous.

There are apps you can download that record all snoring episodes throughout the night. Get her to do this and maybe it will shock her into taking action.

Just be thankful you don't live with her full-time.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 15:26:54

episodes?? hahahahaha

DidoTheDodo Mon 26-Aug-13 16:05:29

YABU. What do you expect her to do about it?

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 16:22:39

I expect her to die, Mr Bond.

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 16:23:01

Bottom line, she shouldn't stay at other people's houses.

MinnieBar Mon 26-Aug-13 17:27:26

Dido - she can do several things, including being fucking apologetic

- She can see the GP to see if it's apnoea, or something else that they can help with
- She could try those plasters that widen your nasal passages
- She could sleep with a tennis ball or similar sewn into her pjs so she doesn't sleep on her back
- She could look at the British Snoring Association (or similar; I forget their exact name) for other tips and advice
- She could bring ear plugs with her as a kindness

LOADS. Including losing weight, although I appreciate that's not easy.

Do NOT underestimate how fucking murderous sleeping with a snorer can make you. It's been over ten years and I'm getting The Rage just thinking about it…

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 17:44:53

Thanks Minniebar.

neunundneunzigluftballons Mon 26-Aug-13 17:51:15

I shared a post natal ward with a woman suffering from sleep apnea my diagnosis not a real one we did not sleep a wink for 3 days and she scared the shit out of ds who was is a cot right beside her every time she stopped breathing and then started snoring again. The thing was her husband kept joking about it with me, I bet you did not sleep a wink etc. but she thought he was taking the piss and was completely unaware. Not a pleasant situation for him I imagine living with the condition day in day out.

Wibblypiglikesbananas Mon 26-Aug-13 17:57:24

I am with you OP! Spent the weekend camping, 7 months PG, and some idiot snored all night, every night, long and loud in the tent next door.

If you snore, why not sort it out?? Rather than inflict it upon those poor souls around you??

My FIL made a comment once about how all mothers should warn their daughters about their future husbands' snoring (MIL has to sleep in the spare room, he snores like a train). I commented that I wouldn't be with someone who couldn't be bothered to take care of their own health properly, sort out a diagnosis if snoring became a problem, and that included their son!

Good luck OP - and don't invite her back!

Jakadaal Mon 26-Aug-13 17:57:54

YAB totally unreasonable!! It is attitudes like yours that means that I am now totally paranoid about staying over at friends/family or share a room. Yes I know I sound like a wild boar but can I do anything about it? Apparently not ... Have tried everything from GP to whacky alternative therapies. Only solution is surgery with no guaranteed results. My only option is either to stay awake (I actually did this in hospital and on a 9 hour long haul flight) or just not travel or visit.

She def needs to help around the house but you def need to lose the sanctimonious attitude that non-snorers seem to wear like a halo. Rant over

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 19:41:42

So should I stay awake instead again? I have to work in the morning.

If you snore, stay at home where people love you enough for it not to be a problem.

It's not paranoia you've got there.

Azultrailer Mon 26-Aug-13 19:57:16

Jakadaal that's the most entitled thing I've ever read!

Snorers have two choices: go for a rebore, or stay awake.

My husband snores like a tractor and only a large rambling house with the spare bedroom in another wing, has saved us. Many nights I fantasised about doing his uvula with a soldering iron, or simply pressing a pillow over his face till he stopped struggling, but then we moved house, which is as well cos he's a nice bloke.

Jakadaal Mon 26-Aug-13 20:04:25

No OP what I am suggesting is that you make allowances for something that is outside of an individual's control. Alternatively you have an adult conversation with you SIL

Yes I might be paranoid but that is because of some of the entitled attitudes that have come my way in the years all of which insinuate that a snorer does it on purpose.

Alternatively don't come on AIBU if you aren't open to hearing an alternative opinion to your own

mynameismskane Mon 26-Aug-13 20:04:59

Erm, why on earth did you invite her to your house if she is such a snorey, lazy woman?! Why haven't you just told her that you can't cope with the snoring and also to buy some of her own food?

If their is a problem, speak up!

squoosh Mon 26-Aug-13 20:06:32

It's hard to make allowances for someone who is keeping you wide awake whilst they sleep like a baby. It may not be rational but it's the way it is.

How incredibly fucking rude. If you snore like an angry pig all night, stay in a fucking hotel. Don't inflict it on other people. I am gobsmacked that you think other people should have to put up with you. How ridiculously selfish. OP, YANB even a teensy bit U... (and congrats on the pregnancy)

thenightsky Mon 26-Aug-13 20:27:07

Lack of sleep due to being woken endlessly all night is bloody awful. I am amazed there are not actual murders happening.

I do appreciate that the snorer is pretty helpless to stop when its 2am and they are deep in sleep though, but surely they could go to their GP and get a referral like my DH did.

I have been told by exes who snored that 'its not my fault you are a light sleeper, just deal with it'. Hence they are exes.

HamletsSister Mon 26-Aug-13 20:38:47

Am I the only one laughing aloud at "snoring like an angry pig", an expression I have not heard before and is just perfect?

Why not record her and, just as she is trying to sleep, play it back at full volume with the recorder hidden, on a loop.

Then leave the house and go to a B&B?

SybilRamkin Mon 26-Aug-13 20:42:49

PMSL at HamletsSister grin grin

YoureAllABunchOfBastards Mon 26-Aug-13 21:39:24

Before he had his tonsils out, DS1 could be heard downstairs. Noisy little get.

I have been known to snore. But the woman on my postnatal ward was something else. Jesus fuck - she claimed the next day not to have slept, and the midwife was shock as we had listened to her all bleeding night! (dS was on hourly checks, so we KNEW!)

deste Mon 26-Aug-13 23:05:28

I feel your pain, we had friends sleeping in our motorhome at the weekend so there was no escape. He snored in and out the whole night. He was the only one who slepped all night. I swear never again.

Bumpotato Mon 26-Aug-13 23:13:23

Get her phone, record her and change her ringtone to that recording like I did to DH once

squoosh Mon 26-Aug-13 23:20:44

There's a free app called SnoreClock Sleep Analyzer, it records any snoring and tells you how long you snored for and at what decibel level.

She needs to download this.

GroupieGirl Mon 26-Aug-13 23:31:47

BunchOfBastards - we must have been on the same postnatal ward. Woman in bed opposite snored like a trucker all night, then complained the next morning that she'd got no sleep due to all the noise. Aaarrgghh.

OP Cancel MIL, or at least postpone, cumulative sleep deprivation might make you actually murder someone. grin

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 23:48:30

update: explosive argument when I asked them to help tidy the kitchen this evening.
how fucking dare I apparently. how fucking dare I suggest they hadn't been helping. complete swearing stand-off when I asked if either of them had been near the dishwasher since thursday.

I organised to stay at a friends house for tonight, but they wanted to leave.

anyway, they've now gone. not dead. just gone. which is just as good. for now.

DH upset. I'm upset. They are upset. Fucking marvellous. sad

nevergoogle Mon 26-Aug-13 23:51:14

i looked for a snoring simile and couldn't find one, so made one up all by myself.

Snoring like an angry pig.


<<glares at my own live in, lip flapping, protesting pig wanker >>

Kill the bastard.

thebody Tue 27-Aug-13 00:00:11

op you might want to calm down a wee tad.

all this 'dead' wishing is a bit ott.

she snores and that's annoying yes agree but not her fault. she might be a lazy arse guest but still she was an invited guest.

look at it this way, its good to practise sleepless nights now as when the baby comes you won't sleep at all.

just joking.😃

sure it will all work out but think apologies both sides may be needed.

Bumpotato I once set dp a ringtone of himself snoring and posted about it on ere. Was I your inspiration perchance ?? wink

JakeBullet Tue 27-Aug-13 00:01:22

Enjoy a peaceful nights sleep tonight. Don't stress it all....they must have been due to go surely.

nevergoogle Tue 27-Aug-13 00:12:54

i'm only mucking about with the death wishing.

i didn't invite her, in fact i wasn't consulted now that i think about it.

nevergoogle Tue 27-Aug-13 00:13:23

and i didn't know about the snoring.

LessMissAbs Tue 27-Aug-13 00:14:10

YANBU. How can she be unaware of it and the disruption it causes to other people's sleep?

Can I particularly say I wish snorers wouldn't inflict themselves in youth snorting pig was so bad in one once, I pulled the mattress off the bed and slept in the toilet block. I could still hear her from there, with earplugs in. There were 4 other people in that room kept awake too and how there was not a murder I do not know.

JakeBullet Tue 27-Aug-13 00:14:31

I absolutely LOVE the "snoring like an angry pig" description. Utter genius grin

JakeBullet Tue 27-Aug-13 00:21:23

Deffo sounds like sleep apnoea and too many people dont realise that they have it or are not aware of how bad their snoring is.

I never used to snore but post pregnancy rapidly developed "angry pig" tendancies. Thankfully I had readabout sleep apnoea and saw my GP who rereferred me to a sleep clinic. I was having apnoeas several times a night and my oxygen levels were dropping.

I now sleep witha mask and CPAP machine....I am told that I do still snore but it is very quiet now.

I wonder if your SIL realises how bad it is. Partners can become oblivious. Mum is a dreadful snorer but my Dad simply sleeps through it. I on the other hand nearly killed hrr when we were on holiday and sharing a room once.

mynameismskane Tue 27-Aug-13 08:10:35

Why isn't your husband angry with his sister for being so bloody rude?! Why did he invite then without consulting you? Good for you for standing up and saying something.

Bumpotato Tue 27-Aug-13 10:26:33

apocalypse nope, it was years before I'd ever heard of this place. Nice work though!

Beastofburden Tue 27-Aug-13 10:54:16

If your MIL is a nice person, have her to stay and she can talk to her daughter about sleep apnea because after all, she might die from it,that does happen.

If she is not, cancel on the grounds that you got no sleep.

Either way, get your meds sorted out, def the anti histimines and actually if you need ads then your GP should have a serious think about how to support you when pg.

nevergoogle Tue 27-Aug-13 19:11:02

I feel much better today. I am pleased that I didn't just roll over and let them walk all over me, lazy fucks.

Who? Just Who? Settles down on the sofa (one each!) to watch coronation street followed by eastenders followed by more coronation street while the kitchen is piled high with crap and lets couple sort out kids for bed, and DH trying to work, and me filling the dishwasher and putting packaging in bin that they've left lying around.

The whole premise for their visit was to help DH during the holidays as he's self employed.

Talkinpeace Tue 27-Aug-13 19:24:41

Diet drinks make you fat.
Snoring that loudly is a really dangerous health sign and could lead to stroke or heart attack.
She needs medical help.
You need to keep her out of your house till she deals with it.

HamletsSister Tue 27-Aug-13 22:18:36

On the positive side, you have a great potential career ( which you can thank her for) as a simile writer. Still laughing....sheer fucking genius!

nevergoogle Tue 27-Aug-13 22:53:23

smile thanks.

Wibblypiglikesbananas Wed 28-Aug-13 02:30:34

Yeah, they're gone! Sorry to hear it turned into an argument but sounds like they needed to hear a few home truths.

Oh well, they won't be wanting to come back again, will they? Good news all round I say!

differentnameforthis Wed 28-Aug-13 02:32:34


Perhaps you need anger management.

Boomerwang Wed 28-Aug-13 06:07:37

I think this was more about the woman not pulling her weight wasn't it? If she was lovely and helpful you might have reacted slightly differently. You'd definitely still be angry and frustrated about the snoring, but perhaps you might have felt you could put up with it.

I am a terrible snorer. My boyfriend has an app on his iphone and he regularly records my snoring. It's recorded that he also snores quite loudly at times but mine goes on all night. I am overweight and I smoke, which is why I don't go to the doctor about it.

As a result of the snoring, neither of us gets enough sleep. Sometimes I feel rather okay and awake in the day and if I ask about my snoring, he'll say I hardly did any snoring at all. Brings me to wonder how good daily life could be if I didn't snore...

Anyway, your SIL is gone now. Rest easy!

JakeBullet Wed 28-Aug-13 07:35:23

Booerwang, please please go to your GP about the snoring. If you DO have sleep apnoea then this can be very dangerous. So you are overweight ...big deal, my Mum has sleep apnoea and is skinny. It is generally a hereditary thing but yes being overweight can make it worse. No guarantee that if you lost weight it would go away though. It is a serious condition and has been implicated it heart attacks, strokes and also in an increasing number of road accidents where the driver unaware of his/her sleep apnoea has fallen asleep at the wheel.

It might just be snoring, but generally if it is really bad then you are having attacks of apnoea.

I am overweight and have sleep apnoea, nobody has ever commented on this. When I was diagnosed I met others who had also been recently diagnosed...we ranged in age from 22 - 73 and from skinny to obese.

Talkinpeace Wed 28-Aug-13 14:29:44

I am a serious snorer. I wake myself up as well as everybody else
I'm skinny and its been operated on once and its not apnoea, just train impressions.
If the snorer is overweight it is a health risk
losing weight and cutting right back on alcohol make a huge difference

separate rooms for actual sleeping are a really good move - then you are getting proper sleep, as is your OH, which helps with the snoring too

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