

Are Windows 8 tablets an expensive bag of fail?


Lenovo's IdeaPad Yoga 13 starts at $1,099

Source: CNET

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By senecarr on 10/11/2012 9:33:27 AM , Rating: 4
If your device is called the expensive when compared to an Apple product, you're gonna have a bad time...

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By theapparition on 10/11/12, Rating: 0
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Dummies Windows 8 Tablet Contest

Total Approximate Retail Value: $350.00 USD*

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10.6" screen
32gig I bet the 64gb one is more
.27 inches thick
built in keyboard/touchpad
Micro Sd slot
USB 2.0 slot
MiMO antenne


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By melgross on 10/11/2012 9:49:17 AM , Rating: 1
I remember when Apple's iPad was first announced beginning at $499, and everyone almost had a heart attack, because they were expected to begin at least at $800, with some wags saying $1,200.

I don't think you can make a decent 10" tablet for less than $499 withough giving up on any profit. And because of volume, Apple gets the best pricing. So unless Microsoft themselves decides to take a bath on every Surface tablet they sell, the way they've been doing with the Xbox, they can't be cheap. And others can't do that at all.

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By kingmotley on 10/11/2012 11:13:58 AM , Rating: 2
I remember when analysts said the iPad was going to be a flop because no one would pay $499 for what was essentially a large iPhone without the phone, and surveys showed that the sweet spot was $299 or something.

Most analysts fail.

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By Mitch101 on 10/11/2012 12:42:48 PM , Rating: 2
I think this is a Major Fail on the part of the Hardware manufacturers being unable to produce or accept a lower profit margin on tablets like they do on PC's. Sure its razor thin on PC's they dont need to cut that deep but they cant expect Apple profit margins when they have competition from other manufacturers.

Apples iPad can only be bought from Apple this allows them to hold their price point to a degree. They don't have hardware that competes with themselves if you want into their eco system.

Lenovo makes a Windows or Android tablet and they are not the only game in town doing this every other hardware company is going to have a competing product.

Google and Microsoft must make their own tablets because both need to produce a razor thin profit margin or even a loss. Its just like selling game consoles to build up an eco system that will attract developers of apps/games for that eco system. When the eco system has enough hardware sold then you will attract the developers to produce content for it.

If lenovo is to do well they need to market this as a Ultrabook first that you dont need to purchase a tablet because it can act like one. Marketing it as a tablet with a keyboard will fail.

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By Aloonatic on 10/11/2012 5:12:28 PM , Rating: 2
I think that it's difficult to compare tablets to PCs when it comes to pricing.

I know that people hate bloatware, but that is how PC and Laptop manufacturers make their money.

However, as tablets are competing with the iPad, I don't think that tablet consumers will tolerate all the rubbish that you will find on most laptops, so what seem like high prices compared what you might expect could be here to stay for a while.

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By Solandri on 10/11/2012 11:26:53 AM , Rating: 3

Bear in mind that unlike the Apple tablet, the $1099 Surface is supposed to come with a laptop processor and (for all intents and purposes) an SSD. It will be a laptop in tablet form factor, not a souped up smartphone CPU, OS, and storage with a larger screen. While I don't know how well the Surface will sell, it's not really appropriate to compare its price to the iPad's.

The $499 RT is a different story since it's supposed to be using an ARM processor.

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By lightfoot on 10/11/2012 11:36:48 AM , Rating: 1

The Windows 8 Pro version of Surface I see competing with Ultrabooks, not tablets, and not laptops or netbooks.

The real question is what the performance looks like.

If it performs like an Ultrabook this will be an amazing deal. If it performs like a netbook, then I agree it will struggle in the market.

The RT version should have no issues going head to head with the high end iPads. The iPad is still, primarily, a toy.

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By Ammohunt on 10/11/2012 1:35:34 PM , Rating: 2
a laptop is a laptop and a tablet is a tablet they have different mutually exclusive roles i wish Microsoft luck in trying to combine the two.

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By safcman84 on 10/12/2012 5:08:39 AM , Rating: 2
But the I-pad is just a tablet, it has limited productivity.

$1000 gets you an i5 or i7 powered laptop and tablet (2 in 1), with ssd and 2gb of ram. an i-pad plus macbook air will set you back way more $ than 1 laptop covertable that can do both.

If I just wanted to play angry birds, I would get an I-pad, but if I wanted a serious productivity device the Win 8 tablets are the way to go.

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By lawrance on 10/15/2012 12:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
This is the exact mentality that made the very first tablets (pre iPad) in the marketplace fail. People don't want an all-out computer in a tablet form. It's too hard to use that tablet form for productivity and the full OS's were not suitable to run with simply a touchscreen as the user interface.

Apple is the first company to get it right. You create a tablet with a simple user interface and have dedicated App's as the software. If you wan't a powerful productivity tool, stick with an actual computer with a real keyboard and mouse. And no, I don't want to hook up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to a tablet as that negates the whole point of even having a tablet... something portable that's quick and easy to use.

It amazes me how many people still don't get it!

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By Taft12 on 10/16/2012 4:42:59 PM , Rating: 2
*NO* tablet is a serious productivity device regardless of the OS!

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By NellyFromMA on 10/12/2012 1:00:34 PM , Rating: 2
I mean thats like comparing a Ferrari and an Accord and assessing their prices in a similar manner.

Fact is I don't think anyone knows what the RT tablets will cost but its going to be in line with the iPad.

The Pro models will be inline with the Macbook Air.

So, when you look at it through the lense of reality, how does your assessment make sense?

