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to prevent them? >> guest: how do we work to prevent those? we have technologies, cybertechnologies, prevention technologies. we spend a lot of time looking at detection technologies but again if we got the attack that would hurt our critical infrastructure to which the president referred resiliency and redundancy and response and recovery programs like we did with hurricane sandy. >> host: peter dumont as president ceo of air traffic controller association. mr. dumont your answer to that question? >> guest: there have been attacks on the system. they are not well publicized and they're not talked about because it's confidential information in office we don't want any people to know how the air traffic control system works. it's difficult to explain it on a soundbite. it's happened in alaska. what's being done now is we have very adjunct infrastructure for air traffic control. it's been around since the late 50's, early 60's antigenic so different equipment. right now we are in a modernization phase where we are modernizing the land-based air traffic control system to state-based sa
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