

Tesla Model S Signature starts at $105k



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RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/2012 8:03:38 PM , Rating: 1
First off stop saying you don't see anyone complaining about such things. They do. Often. The President himself "complains" about them constantly, I would certainly say he qualifies as "someone".

Secondly the Government wasn't trying to get people to buy SUV's over other cars. That was a tax break to help farmers that was poorly framed and allowed people to get a break on buying those vehicles. Is that REALLY comparable to the EV subsidy argument? Of course not.

Oil companies provide a product that's in such demand they profit in the billions. Electric vehicles are literally only on the market because of Government funding, every sale is also subsidized, and there's barely any demand for them judging by total sales. Yeeeah, another even comparison there. The oil subsidies only lower our price at the pump, the product would still exist without them. The same cannot be said for most EV's.

RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Jedi2155 on 6/4/2012 8:17:03 PM , Rating: 2
The main thing is that EV's provide a benefit to society that normal vehicles do not.

- Reduce foreign oil dependence/national security.
- Extend supplies of existing oil reserves.
- Helps lower pump cost for everyone else (lowering demand)
- Cleaner air quality and locally produced fuel (Nuclear/Renewable/Natural gas)

Those are the big ones, that EV's provide to society while a normal gas burning vehicle provide no such benefits. That's why I think government subsidies are justified for the time being.

RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/12, Rating: 0
RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By 1prophet on 6/4/2012 9:10:32 PM , Rating: 2
That's right, society can go pound salt since it's all about me. (^_-)

RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/2012 9:34:52 PM , Rating: 2
This sort of thing NEVER produces stronger better societies. You have it all wrong.

By testerguy on 6/6/2012 2:55:44 AM , Rating: 2
Society as a collective philosophy is not necessarily political, it's a logical necessity, all parties and all political views encompass a society view.

You've failed to address any of the very real and logical benefits outlined by the original poster.

By Kurz on 6/5/2012 3:13:22 PM , Rating: 2
What makes up societies? Individuals.
If the Individual is cast aside for the 'greater good' the rest of society suffers as their base weakens.

By JediJeb on 6/6/2012 5:55:32 PM , Rating: 2
Some of those benefits might come true if EVs were to be sold in large amounts, but for now the hand full that have been sold really do nothing for those things. You will not see any of those benefits until they sell EVs at prices around $20k or lower. When they finally make the "Everyman's " version then maybe they will take off and begin to change things. Even then, around where I live it will only mean more coal will be burned to provide the electricity needed for them, since that is the only type of power plants around here.

