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even requested by these veterans groups. it's not even stuff the groups can use, thousands of bags of coconut m & ms. stuff sits in boxes until they figure out what to do with them. what do you do with 11,000 bags of m & ms, hundreds of pairs of surplus navy dress shoes this organization sent to a group, the group that got the shoes actually tried to sell them at a yard sale to raise money for the things they actually needed. cnn's drew griffin has tracked down the president of the dvnf to try to get some answers. >> you're the one from cnn. >> reporter: that's right. >> i really didn't think you'd do something like there. we've agreed to talk to you. >> reporter: nobody's agreed. so here is the question. it's $64 million raised over three years and none of the money has gone to any veterans. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: ma'am this. >> he hasn't agreed to talk to them. still no answer. the courts investigating the dvnf, we uncovered another charity that asks you to help veterans by opening your wallet but uses only a small percentage of it to actually help veterans. they call

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