to ask you all to give my sister a kick up the bum

(36 Posts)
DefiniteMaybe Mon 10-Dec-12 02:18:22

Today is my sister's 21st birthday. She has a 9 month old baby. Tonight her boyfriend got smashed out of his face on alcohol and drugs, told her he wanted to see his son right now and when she said no he smashed her living room window.
Luckily she was at my house when all this was going on so no real danger to her and my nephew this time, but her boyfriend thought she was in her house.
We called the police, they came out and she refused to make a statement or press charges because he has previous convictions and she doesn't want him to go to prison because she wants him there for their son.
I've told her my opinion but I don't think she believes me. I will show her this thread so she can get her kick up the bum.

DefiniteMaybe Mon 10-Dec-12 02:20:55

Oh and shes promised him he can come and see the baby first thing in the morning.

sad Why does she think she deserves so little? Surely she knows that this is no way to live?

How does she think he'd have been if they had been at home? Does she think caring, doting dad?

My son is 8 months old, and very aware of things happening around him, he picks up on me and DH's moods and cries when we are upset. Her DS is also going to be aware enough of his dad's behaviour, her son doesn't deserve to grow up scared of actual violence. She's got to put her son first.

sleeplessinsuburbia Mon 10-Dec-12 02:39:08

She needs to find positive male role models for her ds. His father clearly isn't.

DoingItOnTheRoofTopWithSanta Mon 10-Dec-12 03:03:33

I'll be flamed for this (I have been before) but I grew up with an abusive father where my mother just let him back in to our lives over and over.

I hate her. I hate her for it.

Firstly, he won't just be abusive to her he will be abusive to her son. So him being there for the baby is ridiculous. One day the baby will do something to upset him and she will wish he was never involved.

Secondly, watching his mother be abused will make him depressed angry and potentially turn him in to an abuser

and lastly, again, he will blame her for exposing him to this horrible person. I am an adult and I know abusive relationships are not easy to get out of and all of it.. But even being hyper-aware of all of that, I can't get past the fact that I feel she let me down and contributed to my abuse by allowing it to happen.

MammaTJ Mon 10-Dec-12 06:04:55

She should press charges. It will not be her fault if he ends up in prison, but his bcause of his behaviour.

PurplePidjChickIsNotTheMessiah Mon 10-Dec-12 06:18:06

She's teaching her baby that tantrums get you what you want. That violence solves problems.

Actions have consequences. Tell her to teach that to your nephew, before he turns into an abusive cunt like his sperm donor.

Rosa Mon 10-Dec-12 06:20:20

Wonderful role model so in 12 years time it will be acceptable for her son to have a tantrum and smash a window....

AltinkumATEalltheTurkey Mon 10-Dec-12 06:24:44

I'd phone social services... She I failing as a mother, in protecting her son from a man who thinks its OK to risk her sons life and hers with a man who is a substance abuser.

If she won't protect him, then someone else needs to, however saying this the police have a duty now to file a report to social services themselves.

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly Mon 10-Dec-12 06:33:51


Does she understand that her son will maybe turn into something similar?

Or grow up with that in his life and feel bloody awful. And frightened.

She owes it to her son to be a better parent than that. She needs to protect him from someone who would behave like that.

Why exactly does her son need a man in his life who thought he was in a house and proceeded to try to smash his way in? What if her son had been under the window and the glass had smashed all over him?

What a good father to not care about that...

DefiniteMaybe Mon 10-Dec-12 08:07:00

Thanks for your replies everyone. Hopefully this will open her eyes when she reads it.

OhlimpPricks Mon 10-Dec-12 08:42:45

She IS NOT responsible for him, his behaviour, or the the consequences he faces.

If she does not protect her son from potential abuse, then Social Services will. By refusing to co-operate in allowing the authorities to take action she is effectively condoning his behaviour and telling everyone that she is happy to subject her baby to this danger.

Be blunt with her. Does she want her son to be a newspaper headline? Is he going to be the next baby reported with countless injuries and/or death. If he drinks or takes drugs, smashing things up, he won't know the difference between a window and his baby's skull.

To be honest, if it were my sister, the priority would be my nephew. He can't make the decisions like she can. I would seriously consider alerting the authorities.

YourHandInMyHand Mon 10-Dec-12 09:10:59

Like Doing I grew up with an abusive father and I'm as angry at my mum as I am at him, perhaps more so at my mum. We kids cried with RELIEF when they eventually split (way too late but better than never splitting).

The drinking binges were as damaging as his moods. We were all on edge wondering what drunken mood he'd be in. I knew from a very young age what beer was and was wary if I saw people holding one. sad

And just to be clear - we never saw or heard him smash anything, it was growing up with this uncertainty in the air that was more damaging than the smacks and actual moods.

Children should feel SECURE in their home, and feel secure that their mum and dad are SAFE and trustworthy people. Living in the opposite situation is so damaging and at 30 I'm still struggling with growing up with such a dysfunctional father around.

I really hope your sis realises her and her son deserve so much better than this. She should press charges, she needs to think about how best she can take this situation and set the right example to her son. She should also think carefully about the fact that if she presses charges it will support her in getting appropriate contact for her son - for example supervised set contact.

YourHandInMyHand Mon 10-Dec-12 09:12:21

Good point Ohlimp - the OP's sister may find social services are sent note of this through the police if sis refuses to press charges as her and baby are at risk.

DefiniteMaybe Mon 10-Dec-12 10:09:58

Well I've shown her this thread and it's gone straight over her. She doesn't believe that he will hurt the baby. He won't hurt her. He won't do this again.
It's so infuriating that she just won't see it. He treats her like shit and is only interested in smoking weed.

DefiniteMaybe Mon 10-Dec-12 10:10:47

The police did say last night that ss wouldn't be informed.

"He won't do this again."

Bet she thought that before he smashed the window in too.

What does she think he was going to do once he'd smashed the window in if she had been at home? Suddenly calmed down and been all sweetness and light?

WilsonFrickett Mon 10-Dec-12 10:15:37

The police did say last night that ss wouldn't be informed

Then inform them. Your nephew is seriously at risk of domestic violence. Phone SS.

YourHandInMyHand Mon 10-Dec-12 10:43:12

I would inform them myself too. Why would she want someone who's a violent pot head around her baby??

If she'd actually been in the house as he thought what would have happened?

aamia Mon 10-Dec-12 10:58:15

She needs to ltb - and get away so he can' t find her.

Calabria Mon 10-Dec-12 11:53:21

True story - A family member had a friend who refused to leave her abusive husband as it would ruin his career (he was a doctor).

She finally left when her 15 year old son beat her up. But the damage was already done and the boy thinks it's ok to batter people.

lotsofdogshere Mon 10-Dec-12 12:35:11

I'm surprised the police aren't informing children's services, as in our force area it's mandatory that if police are called out to domestic abuse, and there are children, they inform children's services. Children's services may only be able to visit and make sure she has information about refuges, impact of living with domestic abuse on babies, including on their brain development. But they should be informed so they can visit/invite her in, to talk through the issues and stress the risks to her baby.

Rudolphstolemycarrots Mon 10-Dec-12 12:44:14

He is responsible for his own behaviour - not her. He has done criminal damage and deserves to be punished. He is obviously not a good role model - a million miles from it! Does your sister really want her son to grow up knowing that you can abuse someone and get away Scot free? Does she really want an abusive father for her children? Madness.

DefiniteMaybe Tue 11-Dec-12 09:36:58

She just doesn't believe us. Shes said he is still dnephews dad, she won't keep him away.

sue52 Tue 11-Dec-12 10:22:56

If the police won't inform social services then you should think about informing them youself for the sake of your nephew. Your sister isn't thinking straight and needs you to act for her.

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