After only seven games for Stoke, he moved to Sunderland in December 1902, where he captained the side for ten years and gain his eleven caps, making him Sunderland's second most-capped England International behind Dave Watson.
He moved to Sunderland in December 1902 and gain his eleven caps, making him Sunderland's second most-capped England International behind Dave Watson. This was after only seven games for Stoke. He captained the side for ten years.